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Awkwardly, apparently.

Awkward facts surrounding Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s awkward estrangement from the United States seem to produce some awkward reporting.

I have a piece up at Asia Times about “Sonofawhore-gate” i.e. Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s alleged insult delivered to President Obama that got the Duterte-Obama confab in Laos canceled, and was breathlessly reported in much of the Western press to the exclusion of the issues Duterte was raising: Truth and Duterte in Media Crosshairs.

Read it. Repeatedly! Tweet it! And tell your family and friends. Gotta build traffic.

As a langniappe, it provides a deep dive into what was apparently the most important issue in US-China relations, “Stairgate”, the cock-up with the delivery of the motorized stairs needed for President Obama to deplane from Air Force One at the G20 meeting in Hangzhou in the proper presidential fashion.

Probably unfairly—I don’t read all the coverage—but I feel reporting on Duterte has been pretty shallow in terms of explaining his attitude toward the US presence in the Philippines. Seems I’ve pretty much held that corner alone. [Update: Reader GW pointed me to a fine piece by Adele Webb of the University of Sydney on the same theme. So I do not have this corner all to myself.]

Long story short, the American presence in Duterte’s home ground of Mindanao has been a 115 year horror show that Duterte is trying to end. The most recent iteration is Duterte’s declaration that he wants all U.S. Special Forces removed from Mindanao.

Duterte has appalled the United States not only by criticizing the US presence, but by engaging bilaterally with China on the issues brought to a head by the UNCLOS arbitral award instead of doing that shoulder-to-shoulder Pivot Thunder! thing to confront the PRC as part of a US-orchestrated united front.

I’ve written some pretty nifty pieces on the issues surrounding Duterte and the US:

Mindanao, Duterte, and the Real History of the Philippines

Meiring, Murder, Subversion, and Treason: Duterte’s Beef with US

Mamasapano: The Philippines’ Benghazi

Here’s another one! focusing on the under-reported consequences of Duterte’s drug war.

Duterte’s first priority is the drug war which is reported in the Western press primarily through the lens of the vigilante killings.

To keep the frame on Duterte’s excesses in a way that makes it easier for Human Rights Watch to flay his policies as “death squads run amok for no justifiable reason”, there have been interesting attempts to dismiss the Philippine drug problem as no big deal.

But apparently it really is a big deal in terms of its social costs (the Philippines has the highest rate of meth use in East Asia), multinational implications (Philippine mules are getting executed in China and in Indonesia, the Sinaloa cartel has even started exploring the Philippine as a market and source of material), and as a driver for corruption of Philippine government and security forces that reaches up to the highest level.

The actual story is that Duterte is not only using the threat of summary executions to round up addicts and pushers; he’s naming names, both of cartel leaders and the national and local politicians and officers who shelter them. It’s a rather thrilling high stakes game—allegations emerged this week that the bombing in Davao that killed 14 people and was apparently an assassination attempt on Duterte was actually conducted by threatened narcopoliticians, not the Abu Sayyaf Islamist banditti—but the US press has apparently shown little interest in covering these ramifications.

Also I haven’t seen a lot of reporting on the fact that Duterte’s drug war necessitates deeper PRC-Philippine engagement in several important aspects.

First of all, the Philippine drug trade—primarily meth, locally known as shabu—is dominated by Chinese Triads by virtue of the fact that the large and poorly regulated PRC drug industry is a ready source of the intermediates needed to make the drug and also by the fact that Triads are deeply embedded in the major Chinese-diaspora presence in Filipino society. The PRC has a lot to offer in terms of tighter enforcement on the mainland and perhaps in using its good offices to encourage crackdowns in a key Triad operational base, Hong Kong.

On the other hand, the PRC can make life difficult for Duterte if it wants to, by turning a blind eye to the export-oriented meth trade. So there you have it.

Duterte made his expectations concerning PRC assistance quite clear by summoning the PRC ambassador back in August:

The Philippines government said on Wednesday it had summoned the Chinese ambassador earlier this week to explain reports that traffickers were bringing in narcotics from China, opening a new front in President Rodrigo Duterte’s controversial war on drugs.

On Tuesday, the country’s police chief told a Senate hearing that China, Taiwan and Hong Kong were major sources of illegal drugs, and Chinese triads were involved in trafficking.

Foreign Affairs Secretary Perfecto Yasay told a Senate hearing on Wednesday that the Chinese ambassador had been summoned for an explanation, and the government would also send a diplomatic communication to Beijing to “pursue this in a more aggressive note.”

Another area of potential Philippine-PRC cooperation is PRC assistance in a crash program to rehabilitate the Philippine drug users who have turned themselves in to the police to avoid getting targeted by the death squads.

Though virtually unreported in the Western media, over 700,000 users have turned themselves in.

Let me repeat that. 700,000 drug users have turned themselves in.

And they presumably need to get a clean “rehab” chit to live safely in their communities, presenting a major challenge for the Philippines drug rehabilitation infrastructure. Duterte has called on the Philippine military to make base acreage available for additional rehab camps and the first one will apparently be at Camp Ramon Magsaysay.

Duterte has turned to the PRC to demand they fund construction of drug treatment facilities, and the PRC has obliged. According to Duterte and his spokesman, preparatory work for the Magsaysay facility has already begun.

There’s an amusing wrinkle here.

Magsaysay is the largest military reservation in the Philippines. It is also the jewel in the diadem, I might say, of the five Philippine bases envisioned for US use under EDCA, the Enhanced Defence Cooperation Agreement that officially returned US troops to Philippine bases. It looks like the US military might be sharing Magsaysay with thousands of drug users…and PRC construction workers.

I expect the Pentagon is quietly fuming at Duterte’s presumption.

Duterte is understandably leaning on China to assist him with his drug war. The Philippine establishment may or may not be thoroughly corrupted by drug money, but it’s probably happy to restrain him by slowwalking legislation related to the war.

And although the United States quickly “committed” \$32 million for “law enforcement and training”, who knows when and if it’ll show up and where it will end up. I also get a feeling the US wouldn’t mind seeing Duterte and his drug war fall on their *sses, so the civilian and military Philippine establishment could get back to its main mission of pleasing the United States and returning to a pivot-centric foreign policy.

So Duterte is going executive decree, and twisting China’s arm to get quick, effective “facts on the ground” i.e. rehab camps. I suspect the camps are absolutely essential to Duterte’s plan; if he can’t process the users, he’ll have to leave them in their communities and the drug war will be revealed as a damp squib and a farce—unless the death squads are up to massacring another 700,000 people, which I think is beyond even their murderous capabilities.

It looks like Duterte thinks that the UNCLOS ruling could be put to better use extorting Chinese cooperation to house an army of drug addicts, instead of gratifying the United States by a futile attempt to evict the PRC from Scarborough Shoal (the PRC, by the way, appears to be allowing Filipino fishing boats to work the shoal, at least for now).

Interesting, no?

But an immense social and political upheaval concerning drugs and highlighting the interdependency of China and the Philippines is apparently not really worth reporting, since the designated US theme is that the existential issue for Asia is meeting the military threat of rising China by a big reboot of the US presence in the Philippines.

The US government and US-friendly Western press may be unhappy with Duterte and his tilt away from the US, but finding a news hook to demonize him is a little difficult.

For one thing, the way the US and Aquino administration structured EDCA oh-so-cleverly to avoid legislative review apparently put control of implementation completely in the hands of the President of the Philippines–who turned out not to be a pliable member of the Manila set but Rodrigo Duterte. If the US gets too pointed in its criticism, US access to bases in the Philippines, a cherished US objective since the eviction of US forces in 1993 and an important chess piece in the South China Sea, might get restricted.

Secondly, Duterte is a non-socialist business-is-business guy whose election was, as we say, free and fair. So the “Philippines’ Putin/Chavez/Assad” frame doesn’t fit very well.

Third, Duterte is popular thanks to his whole-hearted prosecution of the drug war. His approvals are up in the 80s I believe.

Fourth, the US record in the Philippines is genuinely god-awful. The mission that the United States wants to focus on—what I call the sailor suit/battleship/yo ho ho democracy and freedom confronting China in the SCS—is a small fraction of the reality of the US presence in the Philippines and its corrupting penetration of the Philippines’ military and security forces and the Manila elite. Doing a deep dive into America’s Duterte problem means acknowledging that the US presence in the Philippines recapitulates the Indian Wars, Vietnam, and Iraq: a gigantic and bloody imperial botch.

No need, I think, to trouble the beautiful minds of American readers with the realization that Duterte’s tilt away from the US is completely understandable and probably justified.

So I expect the roots of Duterte’s problems with the United States will not get a particularly extensive and honest airing in the Western press.

However, I expect alternative reporting frames have to be developed to guide a bewildered readership if Duterte persists in twisting America’s bayag.

There has been some road-testing of “Duterte is a paid-for Chinese stooge” to explain his otherwise inexplicable lack of America love and willingness to go bilateral engagement with the PRC, but that doesn’t seem to have acquired sufficient legs.

The US government and press seems to be settling into the “Philippines’ Donald Trump” mode i.e. Duterte is an unstable reactionary goon unfit for the high mission of sustaining the rules-based international order that’s all the vogue these days, and blind to the fact that in the age of rising China the Philippines has no space to run a non-aligned foreign policy.

The best way to understand Duterte is to listen to him in his own words sansfilter.

Here’s the video of his infamous press conference before he embarked to Laos (in my AT article I incorrectly placed the presser at Manila; he was actually leaving from Davao International Airport; sorry!).

Only 19 minutes and well worth your time. At the end, you’ll understand Duterte and his priorities pretty well.

And at the end, you also get a harbinger of things to come—Duterte’s impending clash with the Manila elites who he believes are being egged on by Washington to impede his policies. In his final words, Duterte provided this characterization of the local critics who felt it was more important for Duterte to respond to questions from Obama concerning human rights abuses in the drug war than to assert Filipino sovereignty and dignity:

There are others with mental capacity of dogs who lap at the ass of the Americans.

As it transpired, Duterte discarded his prepared remarks in Vientiane to deliver a denunciation of US historical crimes in Mindanao, complete with atrocity photos.

Duterte says a lot of interesting and important things. But I doubt you’ll read a lot about them in the Western papers.

(Republished from China Matters by permission of author or representative)
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  1. 5371 says:

    [There are others with mental capacity of dogs who lap at the ass of the Americans.]

    Works to describe almost every European pol and journo.

    • Replies: @Alden
  2. Jason Liu says:

    A good sign for the world. I’ll take strongman goons over leftist leaders anyday.

    I do worry about his pivot towards China though. Many Filipinos seem very resentful of China these days. It could still tank his popularity.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
  3. If you are rational, you ignore him.

    If, like the US, you behave like a jealous girlfriend, then you stalk him, you harass him, and you probably end up killing him.

    BTW, about Stair-Gate … If they had parked AF-1 where the Chinese asked them to, they would ave gotten stars and a red carpet.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  4. @The Alarmist

    Bingo. Isn’t this about the time the Jackals come in? A quick, organically-grown coup, say by a Clinton Foundation NGO? Kinda like Robin Hood, Hood being the operant term?

  5. I am an avid user of reddit. I frequent the world news sub reddit. you can actually pinpoint who america is going after with the headlines in that particular sub 🙂 it is like how CIA use chatter to pick up on terrorist activity, I use that to help me find the current targets for the american information war machines.

    sometimes the sludge of attack headlines actually ends up with real world events. ex: massive dumps of negative headlines about edrugan, within a month, there was a coup. when it failed, and usa risked losing turkey and it’s bases, all news headline about edrogan stopped :))) almost 100% when kerry and the VP tried to woo edrogan back into the fold again.

    I suggest you all to check it out. it is pretty fucking accurate.

    right now, you will see alot of negative headlines for duterte. it might or might not lead to real world action. but it is there. he is a target of information warfare atm.

    • Replies: @prosecutemax
  6. @Jason Liu

    I second this. For some reason, the zeitgeist is changing all over the world as nationalism and populism begin their ascent. Maybe it’s the theorized shift from an r/selected to a k/selected environment — I don’t know. This guy is another example of the emerging alpha-male leader type with the vision, the energy, and the nerve to actually take concrete steps to clean up the mess in his society. Perhaps his methods would be out of place in Boise or Fargo, but maybe he and his supporters have a pretty good idea about what’s needed in Mindanao.

    Also, kudos to Mr. Lee. These articles about the PI are fascinating. You are clearly well-informed.

  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Duterte is smart to clean up the drug problem, since as a race realist he should know that one of the ways whites try to control yellow is by trying to force drugs onto their society like whites did to the yellows in China’s opium wars.

    • Replies: @Historian
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
  8. Great article. Be sure to read his article about Meiring (linked in blue above) about our CIA’s “terror” bombings in the Philippines. I was at Fort Magsaysay for a few months in the 1980s. I recall an American artillery officer upset that civilians were roaming about in the live fire area to collect brass fragments for resale. The Filipino officers said not to worry because they were trespassers.

    I’ve spent a few years in the Philippines and have read many books about that nation. “In Our Image” is great. I also wrote about the situation when I was there in 2005 that is still relevant today, and still on-line.

    “Hyping Terrorism in the Philippines”

  9. I think Duterte’s characterization of Obama’s mother was pretty accurate.

    • Replies: @nsa
  10. Historian says:

    Duterte is smart to clean up the drug problem, since as a race realist he should know that one of the ways whites try to control yellow is by trying to force drugs onto their society like whites did to the yellows in China’s opium wars.

    There were 20 million opium addicts in China when the Communists took over in 1949. By 1955, the opium trade had been virtually wiped out. The addicts were weaned off opium, the triads were broken up, and a lot of opium dealers were shot.

    Duterte is repeating the Chinese playbook. Eradication will bring the same benefits that it brought to China. Your trade balance will improve, your workforce will increase, and the criminal elements will lose a major source of income.

  11. The new cold war is also a drug war and it’s take no prisoners.

  12. Anonymous [AKA "Url reviewer"] says:

    Article links broken.

  13. Rehmat says:

    Philippines has centuries-old bloody Western history against Muslims in that country.

    Chalmers Johnson in his 2004 book, ‘Blowback’, documents CIA’s dirty hands behind ‘War on Islam’ in America’s Filipino colony.

    On May 23, 2016, China Matters published an investigative post documenting the history of American war crimes in Philippines. The post claims that Rodrigo Duterte, though a Roman Catholic is disliked by his Church elites and anti-Muslim Judeo-Christian radicals in Washington due to Duterte’s claim that he along with other students at Ateneo de Davao was sexually abused by late Rev. Mark Falvey.

    As deputy Mayor of Davao City on Mindanao island, Duterte understands the plight of country’s 20% Muslim population.

    Speaking at an event being held in honor of the Islamic day of Eid’l Fit’r in Davao City in July 2016, Duterte challenged the narrative that the Middle East is the root of terrorism. It is not that the Middle East is exporting terrorism to America; America imported terrorism (to the Middle East), he said.

    United States is the largest supplier of arms to Philippines. Other suppliers since 2008 included France, Germany, Italy, Israel, South Korea, and Poland. In 2014, Manila signed a \$20 millions deal with Israel’s Elbit to supply Philippines Army its latest armored personnel carriers including 25 mm unmanned turrets, 12.7 mm remote controlled weapon stations (RCWS) and fire control systems (FCS) for 90 mm turrets.

  14. I am looking forward to the article by Peter Lee characterizing the Chinese occupation of Inner Mongolia, East Turkestan, and Tibet as a 100+ year “horror show”. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    • Replies: @CK
    , @denk
  15. CK says:

    Oh please do hold our breath.

    • Replies: @prosecutemax
  16. @CK

    I think you meant “your”; please do learn to spell properly when coughing out an insult.

  17. @Anonymous

    Your comment is amusing since in this article Mr. Lee briefly mentions one of the PRC’s major rogue activities on the world stage. The fact is that currently the PRC is probably the world’s leading producer and distributor of many of the precursor chemicals and illegal drugs that are flooding the world. Back in the 1990s, the aptly named synthetic, China White was a major problem. Currently PRC manufacturers are flooding illicit drug markets with Fentanyl, and a variety of synthetics related to China White. Whether this traffic in illicit drugs is deliberate PRC ruling class policy, as Mr. Lee seems to suggest is the case in the Phillipines, or just a lack of interest among the PRC’s ruling class in controlling a lucrative manufacturing and export sector is an open question. This past year, tens of thousands of US residents have died of Fentanyl ODs. Many of these are due to Fentanyl manufactured in the PRC. The PRC has effectively done to much of the world what the British once did to imperial China.

    Historian is correct about the effectiveness of Mao’s anti-drug policy but, as is often the case with admirers of Mao, grossly understates the ruthlessness and human cost of the program. There were no support services for addicts. They either stopped using or they were executed when they were detected. Many estimate that the numbers killed during the suppression of opiate addiction in the PRC were up into the millions.

  18. nsa says:

    Exactly. O’Bomber’s mum was a sleazy mudshark whore. The proof is available online….pics of her doing bend over porn….making all of her girlie parts available to the camera lens. No one denies their authenticity. We need a great man like Duterte here in the USA desperately……..

  19. @Astuteobservor II

    An interesting comment. However, I wouldn’t read too much into it. By virtue of making an even tangentially aspersive remark towards our exalted leader, our media elites will excoriate him. As a side note, one of my co-workers actually went to the same law school as Duterte. He was apparently much the same then; gruff, foul mouthed, “in your face”, totally informal as regards deportment and dress. He got into a bit of a kerfuffle as he wound up shooting someone.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  20. Marcus says:

    He’s great, I loved him calling Osambo’s mom what she is

  21. @Rehmat

    Judeo-Christian radicals in Washington:

    First of all, there is not such thing, as a Judeo-Christian group. More appropriately should be Judeo-Churchianity-Zionist group. Judeo and Christian is as different as day and night. Judeo=Talmudism, and Christian= Follower of Christ. The time has arrived to clear this misguided acronym. Time to put to death the Judeo-Christian misnomer.


    In the middle

    • Replies: @survey-of-disinfo
    , @Rehmat
  22. woodNfish says:

    How Do You Handle a Problem Like Rodrigo Duterte?

    We don’t. It is the Philippines business, not ours. And obama is the bastard son of a whore. Why is it only foreigners speak the truth about our country and its leaders anymore?

    • Replies: @Klokman
  23. @in the middle

    Has anyone looked into the provenance of this oxymoron, Judeo-Christianity?

    Christianity, in the sense of a religious movement, first came under attack by the Pharisees. This was the true church, the Church of Jerusalem, headed by honest-to-God Apostles (RA) of Jesus (AS) son of Mary[am] (AS).

    The existence of the Church of Jerusalem hugely worried the Sanhedrin. I can’t recall chapter and verse at this moment (anything outside of the Evangle and writings of James in NT is not authenticated by The Qur’an) but I think its in the Acts where the high priest relates to Saul his concerns regarding the followers of our Beloved Jesus the Messiah of Israel (AS) and how they — meaning the Church of Jerusalem — persisted in their religion, contrary to the pattern of followers of false prophets that scattered after their leader had died.

    They needed a plan of action!

    It was then that Saul the Pharisee on his way to “Damascus” decided to pull an ISIS and self appointed himself as an apostle of Christ. Jesus (Salaam be upon Him) went out of his way to warn the apostles about the false ones who would come “in my name” but alas, the brothers (AS) were pure in spirit but their coin didn’t always drop in a timely fashion. And that is how Saul the Pharisee — a virulent killer of Christians — managed to “climb over the fence” rather than “enter by the gate” and the Pharisees pulled off one of the most spectacular religious hijackings of recorded history.

    The Muslim Saint and Sufi Master, Jalaluddin Rumi (RA) even wrote about this in his Masnavi, in a very lightly coded manner:

    That was the first infiltration.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
    , @Stonehands
  24. Rehmat says:
    @in the middle

    I’m afraid Pope Francis doesn’t agree with your interpretation of Christian religion. Francis says that every true Christian carries a JEWISH SOUL.

    Francis said: “Every day, I pray with the Psalms of David. My prayer is Jewish, then I have the Eucharist, which is Christian.”

    • Replies: @in the middle
    , @schmenz
  25. Rehmat says:

    Maulana Jalal ad-Din ar-Rumi (1207-1273), was no SAINT but the greatest Sufi poet. There are no SAINTS in Islam just like there are nothing HOLY except the Mighty ALLAH and His word, Holy Qur’an. These terms infiltrated in Muslim world from the Christian world.

    Rumi was born in Balkh, in Eastern Persia, now called Afghanistan. Between 1212-1219, his family moved to Konya, capital of Selijuk dynasty – where he composed huge collection of mystical odes entitled “Divani-Shams Tabriz”, named after his beloved teacher and friend.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @survey-of-disinfo
  26. Talha says:

    Bro, ease up, he simply meant ‘saint’ as a simple one-word translation of ‘wali’ – he didn’t mean ‘saint’ in the way Catholics (or others) mean saints.

    It’s all good – but yeah Mawlana Rumi (ra) knew how to prose very well – can’t think of a Sufi poet that tops him.


    • Replies: @This Is Our Home
  27. @Rehmat

    There are no SAINTS in Islam

    “Behold ! the Friends of God shall certainly have no fear nor shall they grieve” The Quran. 10.62

    Not every believer is a “Friend of God”. A ‘Vali’ of God is most closely rendered as Saint. We do see authentic Western Saints exhibiting this characteristic of having no fear nor grieving.

    Maulana Jalal ad-Din ar-Rumi (1207-1273), was no SAINT but the greatest Sufi poet.

    “Hair-splitters and all their disciples/ Are darkened by similar preaching and discourse.” 🙂

    He actually had a few choice words to say about poets and poetry. You may not recognize him as a “Friend of God” but then again your or my recognition is of little consequence to a man such as Rumi. (His “beloved teacher” speaks quite highly of him in his Maqalaat and very specifically says he is a Vali. You may want to review and reconsider your assessment of this Saint.)

    • Replies: @survey-of-disinfo
    , @Rehmat
  28. edNels says:

    The Chineez have turned it around, from being used as cheap labor like in the 19th century, now they have built a bridgehead all over America and the world known as chinatown, where we go to feel superior,, and get an overpriced dinner… and walk away contented , for an halve hour… !

  29. @survey-of-disinfo

    It came to pass, when he was celebrating the feast of the Resurrection on the 29th day of Baramudah, year 68 A.D., the same day coincided with the great pagan Celebration for the feast of the god Syrabis, a multitude of them assembled and attacked the church at Bokalia and forced their way in. They seized St. Mark, bound him with a thick rope and dragged him in the roads and streets crying, “Drag the dragon to the place of Cows.” They continued dragging him with severe cruelty. His flesh was torn and scattered everywhere, and the ground of the city was covered with his blood. They cast him that night into a dark prison.

    The angel of the Lord appeared to him and told him: “O Mark, the good servant, rejoice for your name has been written in the book of life, and you have been counted among the congregation of the saints.” The angel disappeared, then the Lord Christ appeared to him, and gave him peace. His soul rejoiced and was glad.

    The next morning (30th of Baramudah), the pagans took St. Mark from the prison. They tied his neck with a thick rope and did the same as the day before, dragging him over the rocks and stones. Finally, St. Mark delivered up his pure soul in the hand of God, and received the crown of martyrdom, the apostolic crown, the crown of evangelism, and the crown of virginity.

    One of my favorites Saints. Fearless and rejoicing, Rahmat.

    “Behold ! the Friends of God shall certainly have no fear nor shall they grieve” The Quran. 10.62

    Isn’t The Qur’an amazing, Rahmat? It claims it is “the book that makes things clear”, and sure enough.


  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Pretty much, what you suggest is just spin and trying to control the narrative.

    There are lots of countries that contribute to the worldwide drug problem. A lot of cocaine still comes from Columbia and is crossed through Mexico. India and China supplies much of the worlds precursors for prescription narcotics etc etc.

    That is a lot different than what was done to China, where drugs were used as an offensive weapon to try and wreck the country.

    That is what is being done now to the Phillipines, and it is why Duterte is smart to react the way he did.

  31. Alden says:

    Correct translation of running dog is servile accomplice

    I’ll just use my rule of thumb. If the US press and the quality tags like Atlantic, New Republic, Time etc don’t like Duerte he must be a great guy

    If the media likes him he must be terrible.

    • Replies: @Avery
  32. @Anonymous

    Woukd you please expand and clarify your comment. As far as I can tell you are accusing me of “spin” and “trying to control the narrative” and then agreeing with most of what I wrote

  33. utu says:

    “That is a lot different than what was done to China, where drugs were used as an offensive weapon to try and wreck the country.

    That is what is being done now to the Phillipines, and it is why Duterte is smart to react the way he did.”

    If he frames it in the context of opium trade and wars against China he should get full support of China and other Asian countries. But Phillipines are in a very difficult position. They are the most colonized country in Asia. First by Spaniards and then by Americans. They have hate-love relationship to American and have very low self-esteem perceiving themselves as the lowest among Asian countries. They hate muslim Indonesians but really envy them that they and their spirit were not destroyed by colonization.

  34. @Anonymous

    “That is a lot different than what was done to China, where drugs were used as an offensive weapon to try and wreck the country.”

    You’ve got the history ass backwards. The British fought two Opium Wars with China so they could trade Indian opium for highly desired Chinese goods. They did not sell opium to wreck China. The last thing the British wanted was that opium wreck China. They badly wanted Chinese goods but had nothing much marketable in China except Indian opium.

    The British fought the Opium Wars to force the Chinese government to allow the sale of Indian opium in China. There was a great demand for Chinese goods in Britain and the British colonies but most British exports were of little interest in China. The exception was Indian opium but the imperial government had banned that for obvious reasons. For all Britain cared the Chinese could have thrown the opium in the sea after they bought it. All Britain really wanted was an open market for a product they could use to buy Chinese goods.

    The British exported Indian opium all over the world to anywhere they could including British colonies and the home country. Are you suggesting they were trying to subvert their own empire?

    • Replies: @Alden
  35. Avery says:

    {I’ll just use my rule of thumb. If the US press and the quality tags like Atlantic, New Republic, Time etc don’t like Duerte he must be a great guy}


    {If the media likes him he must be terrible.}

    Right again, except he/she must be a reptilian, anti-Human alien organism

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  36. Alden says:

    Someone told me a new name for the Hildabeast, the whore of Wall Street.

    But the US press just adores her as they adore Obama and all the democrats. Latest rumor; Michelle Obama will step in as candidate if Hildabeast is too sick to carry on the devil’s work. Alternately a body double is already in place.

    Politics is more fun than boring old books and movies.

  37. Alden says:

    A David Ickes reader I see.

  38. Alden says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Southern Chinese smugglers and criminal’s gave the British a great deal of help. S. China is a maze of rivers creeks estuaries bays inlets and little harbors. There are a lot of ships boats and sailors
    They were smugglers for centuries and were more than happy to profit from the opium trade.

    Apparently the British ships anchored off shore and the Chinese smugglers brought the Opium in and distributed it.

  39. @Rehmat

    I have hear of him, and you are probably right about what he said.

    HE IS JEWISH! so nothing occult about him. I told a catholic friend about it, and he was offender! I don’t understand why people refuse to see what is right on their nose! But then again, if it was so easy to wake up to reality, then the world could be a very different place indeed.

  40. Karl says:

    > Philippines has centuries-old bloody Western history against Muslims in that country

    The reality is: Muslims were taking non-Muslims as slaves in PRE-western Philipppines….. ALMOST as fast as they were taking them in Europe. The city-wide fiesta, the Sinulog, started as a celebration of the first time the Muslim raiders, were successfully repelled.

    To be a slightly upper-middle-class person in Cagayan de Oro nowadays, is to take the risk of being kidnapped in broad daylaight, and bundled back to Marawi City….. and held for ransom.

    Islam could plausibly be presented as having a number of interesting facets. Too bad that Muslims like Rehmat can’t seem to focus on them. Perhaps that’s why a median Muslim convert in North America is nowadays is… a black man in a state penitentary for a violent crime.

  41. denk says:

    Obama , CIA’s Manchurian candidate ?

    The ‘Nobel Peace laureate’ came to the White House with a regime change in Kenya already under his belt. [1]
    His background is very murky to say the least. [2]

    Tuesday is the potus’s ‘special’ day, thats when he personally vet a ‘kill list’ supplied by CIA, those hapless ones picked by the ‘decider’ would be vaporised by a Hellfire missile in due course.

    The victim might die in his sleep, or when he’s making love to his wife, or whatever, without knowing what hits him.
    For all we know, the ex-‘terrarist’ could just be an ordinary guy minding his own business, snitched on by his neighbor who held an old grudge.

    The Nobel Peace laureate is a war criminal.
    No, more like a murderer, no wars have been declared on countries on the receiving end of uncle scam’s ‘extra judicial’ justice.
    The CEO of Murder Inc tried to lecture prez Dueterte on ‘due process’ in Ph and got a big black eye for that world class hubris.

    The potus was practically asking for it !
    High time somebody calls the Yanks out for their ‘exceptionism’ BS.

    Question is, was Obama’s mother involved in passing on that ‘kill list’ of ‘commies suspects’ to the death squads leader in indonesia., 1965 ??
    Was she implicated in one of the worst genocide of the century ?



  42. @Talha

    Is it annoying to you that so many of your fellow Muslims are so spectacularly strange?

    • Replies: @Talha
  43. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’d rather have you write on how to handle Xi JinPings, Mr. Lee, and Filipino journalists on the president of their country.

    Foreign comments should write on “how to handle” presidents of countries only during parade days in carnival.

  44. schmenz says:

    You really are getting tiresome, Rehmat. Every comment by you is chock full of historical unrealities that you seem incapable of re-thinking. In your world, every villain is a Catholic and every hero is a Muslim. If only it were as simple as that. But it’s not.

    I have respect for those Muslims who – in this day and age and not in past centuries – keep a solid peace with their Christian neighbors (Assad comes to mind). But historical illiterates like you keep the flames of distrust burning brightly, which plays nicely into the hands of the Zionists. You would do well, if I may say so, to look up the definition of “useful idiot”.

    I am not trying to be insulting, and if the comment here is a bit testy it is because of your exasperating blindness to the truth.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  45. schmenz says:

    How interesting that you quote one of the demonstrably worst Popes in the last 2,000 years to make your point. Catholics who know their faith are appalled by him for the things he is saying and doing, so don’t think you’ve made a brilliant retort. You haven’t.

  46. Talha says:
    @This Is Our Home

    Hey TIOH,

    Muslims can sure act nutty, but I’m avid reader on history and of human cultures – Muslims definitely do not have a monopoly on ‘spectacularly strange’.


  47. denk says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    *Currently PRC manufacturers are flooding illicit drug markets with Fentanyl, and a variety of synthetics related to China White. Whether this traffic in illicit drugs is deliberate PRC ruling class policy, as Mr. Lee seems to suggest is the case in the Phillipines, *

    I certainly do not see Peter Lee making such an assumption.
    You’re the one throwing around all sorts of innuendos and slurs.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  48. @Jus' Sayin'...

    “Historian is correct about the effectiveness of Mao’s anti-drug policy but, as is often the case with admirers of Mao, grossly understates the ruthlessness and human cost of the program. There were no support services for addicts. They either stopped using or they were executed when they were detected. Many estimate that the numbers killed during the suppression of opiate addiction in the PRC were up into the millions.”

    Come to the corner of K&A in Philadelphia. Kensington. Move here. The heroin capital of the US.

    See who is “ruthless” to whom, in your molly-coddled fantasy version of reality.

  49. @survey-of-disinfo

    The pivotal passage in Paul’s story is Acts 9:1-22, which recounts Paul’s meeting with Jesus Christ on the road from Jerusalem to Damascus, a journey of about 150 miles. Saul[trained by Gamaliel as a pharisee] was angered by what he had seen and filled with murderous rage against the Christians. Before departing on his journey, he had asked the high priest for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, asking for permission to bring any Christians (followers of “the Way,” as they were known) back to Jerusalem to imprison them. On the road Saul was caught up in a bright light from heaven which caused him to fall face down on the ground. He hears the words, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” He says, “Who are you Lord?” Jesus answers directly and clearly, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting”.

    From this moment on, Saul’s life was turned upside down. The light of the Lord blinded him, and as he traveled on he had to rely on his companions. As instructed by Jesus, Saul continued to Damascus to make contact with a man named Ananias who was hesitant at first to meet Saul because he knew Saul’s reputation as an evil man. But the Lord told Ananias that Saul was a “chosen instrument” to carry His name before the Gentiles, kings and the children of Israel (v.15) and would suffer for doing so (v.16). Ananias followed the Lord’s instructions and found Saul, on whom he laid hands, and told him of his vision of Jesus Christ. Through prayer, Saul received the Holy Spirit (v.17), regained his sight and was baptized (v.18). Saul immediately went into the synagogues proclaiming Jesus and saying He is the Son of God (v.20). The people were amazed and skeptical, as Saul’s reputation was well known. The Jews thought he had come to take away the Christians (v.21). Saul’s boldness increased as the Jews living in Damascus were confounded by Saul’s arguments proving that Jesus was the Christ (v.22).

    So, what can we learn from the life of the Apostle Paul? First, we learn that God can save anyone. The remarkable story of Paul repeats itself every day as sinful, broken people all over the world are transformed by God’s saving grace in Jesus Christ.

    • Replies: @survey-of-disinfo
  50. Klokman says:

    Hayman! If there is an excess of anything in this world, meddling surpasses all other problems. But speaking of truth about our country, that never happened since John Hanson was elected the first POTUS. TJ lamented to one of his colleagues the only truth to be had in the newspapers was the advertisements, and we all know how marketing skews those!

    • Replies: @woodNfish
  51. woodNfish says:

    There is plenty of truth about our country – you just have to search for it which is why you are on this site. We get it in little bits and pieces, but it is still truth. Unfortunately, even with that we cannot know everything about our criminal government, it is just too big.

  52. polistra says:

    Duterte is not a problem, he’s a solution. In fact he’s THE solution. We need a Duterte.

  53. @Stonehands

    Yes, I know the story.

    It’s a matter of recognition.

    “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

    “But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.”

    Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.

    As for brother Ananias:

    But the Lord told Ananias that Saul was a “chosen instrument” to carry His name before the Gentiles, kings and the children of Israel (v.15)

    You know, there is this account of Zacharias (RA) in the NT and Q that has puzzled many over the years. Zacharias (RA), you should know, is specifically grouped in the Qur’an as “those who fear/carefully-observant God”. It’s a technical term that is typically rendered as “god fearing” but it is not a matter of being ‘scared’ or ‘fearing injustice’, or any other such nonsense. The Arabic word in fact shares root with what one could call an ‘engineer’. I read it as ‘careful’, ‘precise’.

    Let’s read about that uniquely ‘precise’ man:


    There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah. His wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. 6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. 7 But they had no child, because Elizabeth was barren, and they were both well advanced in years.

    8 So it was, that while he was serving as priest before God in the order of his division, 9 according to the custom of the priesthood, his lot fell to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord. 10 And the whole multitude of the people was praying outside at the hour of incense. 11 Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing on the right side of the altar of incense. 12 And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.

    13 But the angel said to him, “Do not be afraid, Zacharias, for your prayer is heard; and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you shall call his name John. 14 And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth. 15 For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink. He will also be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb. 16 And he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God. 17 He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, ‘to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,’[b] and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

    18 And Zacharias said to the angel, “How shall I know this? For I am an old man, and my wife is well advanced in years.”

    19 And the angel answered and said to him, “I am Gabriel, who stands in the presence of God, and was sent to speak to you and bring you these glad tidings. 20 But behold, you will be mute and not able to speak until the day these things take place, because you did not believe my words which will be fulfilled in their own time.”

    Let’s put this in context here. Zacharias (RA) is a ‘high priest’ and he is in what you call “holy of holies’ and what Muslims call ‘Mehraab’. This is the ‘inner sanctum’ of the temple. This is where angels, should you care to believe, appeared /all the time/ yet here is this very righteous man, in the capacity of his office, ‘questioning’ the truth of what his eyes and his ears are telling him.

    He wants a proof.

    And he gets it.

    The proof he gets, involving silence, multiple individuals, and dreams to people who were not in contact with one another, were not sharing information, and involved a miraculous birth.

    “His name is John”.

    And Salaam be upon John/Yahya. From such a noble father could one expect any less of a prophet?

    Seriously, why did Saul the Pharisee not rush back to Jerusalem right then and then and go make introductions to the apostles that were personally chosen by Christ (AS) and if you recall they all had a “last” supper?

    And as to matter of ‘saving Grace’:

    So, what can we learn from the life of the Apostle Paul? First, we learn that God can save anyone. The remarkable story of Paul repeats itself every day as sinful, broken people all over the world are transformed by God’s saving grace in Jesus Christ.

    God Grace most certainly can transform a person. (You may want to read about Umar’s conversion to Islam.)

    But this is not where the story of Saul’s ‘seeing the light’ ends. He went from enemy to chief apostle. 🙂

    • Replies: @Talha
  54. denk says:

    *Ok, so Murkka the ‘world’s oldest democracy’ had a genocidal record in Ph,
    so Murkka the champion of ‘WOT’ had itself committed state terrorism in Ph even in the 21C
    in order to get boots on the grounds.

    But what about China’s ….? *

    You and your ilks are so predictable, childish and pathetic.

    Since when must a Yank put out a disclaimer about China whenever he does an expose on uncle scam , was it enshrined in the first amendment ?
    Or has ‘dictatorial’ China become your moral compass now ?

    I’ve said many times China’s policy towards the minorities would shame many ‘democracy’ including india./Murkka.

    Try to beat that….if you can,
    free aducation,
    exemption from tax,
    heavy subsidise in economy,
    exemption from ‘one child rule’
    These are Nobel Prize stuffs, except the Nobel committee managed to overlook it for the past 70 yrs, the same way they didnt seem to have heard of the world record holder on hunger strike, [1] while showering all their ‘compassion’ on Washington’s poster child in China. [2]


    • Replies: @denk
  55. denk says:

    ‘You and your ilks…..’

  56. Talha says:

    Bro, another friendly piece of advice. Debating theology on this forum does…not…end…well – trust me. Stick to historical, provable facts.

    Just my two cents.

    Salaam (and forgot to say Eid Mubarak or Eid Sa’eed!)

    • Replies: @survey-of-disinfo
  57. @denk

    “…The PRC has a lot to offer in terms of tighter enforcement on the mainland and perhaps in using its good offices to encourage crackdowns in a key Triad operational base, Hong Kong.

    On the other hand, the PRC can make life difficult for Duterte if it wants to, by turning a blind eye to the export-oriented meth trade. So there you have it.

    Duterte made his expectations concerning PRC assistance quite clear by summoning the PRC ambassador back in August: [and so on]”

    That sure reads to me like the PRC government has a handle on its internal manufacturers and exporters of illicit drugs and that its leaders are perfectly willing to use this as a bargaining chip in in negotiations with the Philippines.

    I am currently working on substance abuse epidemiology and policy in my state’s Department of Public Health. In case you are unaware, I’m now informing you of a few facts that face people such as me, working near ground zero: This country is experiencing a major epidemic of opioid abuse. This seems to be an explosive fulmination of the earlier but far less widespread epidemic that first appeared in the early 1990s on the heels of the crack/Cocaine epidemic of the 1980s. In the latter stages of that earlier opioid epidemic a PRC manufactured synthetic, with an eponymous street name of China White showed up and caused many deaths. The current epidemic of opioid overdoes in this country is due primarily to synthetics, e.g., Fentanyl and the eponymous China White, and a – if not the – primary source seems to be manufacturers and exporters operating within the jurisdiction of the PRC.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Chuck
  58. @Talha

    My Christian brother and I are not having a debate. We’re sharing information and comparing notes. It is entirely a futile endeavor to “debate” a subject matter that is (a) deeply personal and (b) involves perceptions that can never be bottled by ‘language’ or any other formal system.

    “If i will go beyond this place even as the distance of an ant, my wings will burn” – Gabriel

    No one will find God via logic. It entirely a matter of the Heart. Further, logical arguments are a sort of “jabr”, a ‘compulsion’, if you will and as you know, my Muslim brother, “there is no compulsion in religion”.

    Salaam & Eid mobarak to you as well!

  59. Talha says:

    It is entirely a futile endeavor to “debate” a subject matter that is (a) deeply personal and (b) involves perceptions that can never be bottled by ‘language’ or any other formal system.

    Well said bro, well said…

    Cool – carry on.


  60. denk says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    The author merely claims that Beijing has a leverage over Ph by ramping up or relaxing its crackdown on the triads.
    Its a stretch to turn it into ‘Beijing is perfectly willing to use this as a bargaining chip ‘. !
    He damn well didnt accuse PRC of ‘deliberately flooding Murkka with alleged illicit drugs’ as you claimed earlier.

    Why am I explaining this to an English native speaker ?

    You wanna find out who’s behind the 80/90 ‘crack/Cocaine and current heroin outbreak in Murkka ?
    Dont look out, you’ve met the enemy and its you !

    CIA’s opium war2, the chicken that comes home to roost.

    • Replies: @denk
  61. denk says:


    He damn well didnt accuse PRC of ‘deliberately flooding Ph with alleged illicit drugs’ as you claimed earlier

  62. The title of this piece is extremely stupid. The mere suggestion that we have any right to handle how this person runs his nation is arrogance on steroids, and exemplifies the nature of Americans to meddle and start wars with other nations for fallacious reasons.

    • Replies: @Darin
  63. Chuck says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    What goes around comes around.

  64. @prosecutemax

    seriously, do a search in the worldnews sub reddit for duterte, you will be pleasantly surprise by how right I am 🙂

    reddit is the most potent place to spread propaganda atm.

  65. Darin says:
    @Son of Dixie

    No. The piece suggests we shall be “inspired” by the tough man Duerte and handle our problems his way.

  66. Rehmat says:

    I’m a bona fide graduate from a Catholic Missionary School – which Jewish madrasa you went dude.

    Muslims are good because they don’t curse Jesus like the Jews do.

    Muslims are good because they don’t agree with the Catholic claim that Jesus was a Jew. Even Israeli historian Dr. Shlomo Sand says that JEWS were invented only a century ago.

    Professor Karen L. King (Harvard Divinity School) has claimed that she had found an unreported secret of Jesus’ life; he had a wife? She has identified a scrap of papyrus that she says was written in Coptic in the fourth century claiming Jesus had a wife. Interestingly, though Dr. King showed the papyrus fragment, encased in glass, to reporters from Jewish-owned media; The New York Times, The Boston Globe and Harvard Magazine in her garret office in the tower at Harvard Divinity School last Thursday.

    Karen King first learned about what she calls “The Gospel of Jesus’s Wife” when she received an e-mail in 2010 from a private collector who asked her to translate it. Dr. King, 58, specializes in Coptic literature, and has written books on the Gospel of Judas, the Gospel of Mary of Magdala, Gnosticism and women in antiquity.

    Incidently, Karen is not the first to come with this revelation. Barbara Thiering, Australian historian who specializes in early Christian history – in her book ‘Jesus the Man‘ – had claimed that Jesus married Mary Magdalene, and later divorced her. Thiering also claims that Jesus was not of a virgin birth, that Joeph married Mary, she gave birth to Jesus and other children- and he did not die on the cross.

    In April 2006, the National Geographic News reported the resurrection of Gospel of Judas, being lost for 1700 years. The Gospel written in Coptic script, exenorated Judas Iscariot, a Jewish hero, for betraying Jesus. The Gospel of Judas claims that Judas was only obeying his master’s wishes when he betrayed Jesus with a kiss!

    That’s what I call “exasperating blindness to the truth” moron.

    • Replies: @schmenz
  67. Rehmat says:

    You must have your brain hanging between your lugs, dude.

    Holy Qur’an doesn’t say: ‘Friends of God’ because there is no God, G-d, god or Godess in Islam. Holy Qur’an is WORDS of ALLAH and people who follow ALLAH commands fully, are called MOMNEEN (Believers).

    In Christianity, SAINTS are established by POPE – but there is no POPE in Islam. Holy Qur’an says that every believer is his/her own POPE.

    “Islam never had to go through a prolonged period of critically examining the validity of its spiritual vision, as the West did during the 18th century. Islamic culture has, of course, known its own crisis… yet it was never forced to question its traditional worldview,” – writes the historian Louis Dupre.

    “On the one hand, Islam is viewed positively, even enthusiastically, as a purified form of revealed religion, stripped of the many imperfections of Judaism and Christianity, and hence reassuringly akin to deism. On the other, Islam is more often regarded with hostility and contempt as a primitive, grossly superstitious religion like Judaism and Christianity, and one no less, or still more, adapted to promoting despotism,” – Jonathan Israel in Radical Enlightenment……

  68. schmenz says:

    Words fail me, Rehmat. But you have identified much of the problem in your lack of historical education: you were taught at a Catholic Missionary school. Catholic teaching has been virtually dead for over a century, at least in this country. (Most Catholics today are clueless about what the Faith teaches). The poor education they gave you is probably at the heart of your near-total misunderstanding of history and tradition.

    By the way, as far as I know, God did not need to wait for either National Geographic or the Harvard Divinity School to get his message out. (But those two organizations are quite good at spreading nonsense about Christianity to the gullible.)

  69. Thim says:

    Yes, you are correct, Duterte loves to cower before Muslims. He laps at their collective ass. It is hard not to like the guy, but he is a coward who is surrendering his country.

  70. @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    ” I think Duterte’s characterization of Obama’s mother was pretty accurate.”

    He also called Pope Francis son of a whore and Phillip Goldberg (US Ambassador to the Philippines ) gay son of a whore. And called the UN “son of a bitch”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Smith
  71. @greysquirrell

    Duterte called Pope Francis a son of a whore. HAHAHA!

    I can’t stand the site of that grinning imbecile…good on Duterte!

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