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On October 6, 2015, the Wall Street Journal carried this headline:

Japan Ready to Lead in Asia-Pacific, Abe Says

I expect that a few Japan-loving pivot-poobahs inside the Washington beltway had to spit out their breakfast sushi at that one.

“But…that wasn’t supposed to happen for decades! Ash Carter promised!”

After all, Secretary of Defense Carter had stated “We will remain the principal security power in the Asia-Pacific for decades to come, ” presumably relying on the assumption that by the time his prediction was proved false he would be safely in his mausoleum and indifferent to rebuke.

Relax, poobahs. The Wall Street Journal was just funning with you.

What Abe actually said was:

“Japan and the United States will together lead Asia Pacific toward the goal of turning it into an ocean of freedom and prosperity, working in partnership with countries that share values such as freedom, democracy, human rights and rule of law.”

That’s better. It’s a together-leady thing.

You know, just like when two lovers are dancing, they both lead.

I wonder what the other TPP members made of this interesting passage from the same interview:

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact–agreed to by Japan, the U.S. and 10 other Pacific nations–will “allow like-minded countries to work together to create a free, fair and open economic system,” Mr. Abe said.

It will also create a level-playing field for private companies competing against state-owned enterprises for major infrastructure projects, he said, such as high-speed rail systems, power plants and airports.

If I am misinterpreting this please correct me, but this appears to say that if a TPP member tries to source an infrastructure project from the PRC under terms that Japanese corporate competitors deems improperly state-subsidized, they can sue in the local courts to block procurement under the wonderful new TPP pact-wide legal protections for private corporations.

Malaysia, Vietnam, Australia, and other potential targets of PRC infrastructure largesse are probably thinking to themselves, Wow, what are we getting into?

A nice piece of leverage for Japan.

Another nice piece of leverage for Japan is that as a founding member it can blackball the PRC from the TPP if and when the PRC tries to apply.

So, consider the TPP a convenient way for Japan to extend its regional reach while wrongfooting the PRC…and denying the U.S. the ability to manage its PRC trade relationship unilaterally.

That’s probably worth more to Abe than the relatively minimal GDP gains expected from the agreement.

Ash Carter famously described the TPP as “important as another aircraft carrier.”

Whose, he didn’t say.

Speaking of aircraft carriers, in March of this year Japan’s Maritime Self Defense Force accepted delivery of its largest ship since World War II, the JS Izumo, a helicopter carrier characterized as “an aircraft carrier in disguise” since it can accept the F-35 in its vertical take-off and landing configuration, and lacks only the catapults necessary for conventional fighter operations.

It’s designed to carry 20 aircraft. It’s an aircraft carrier.

Japan will launch a second one of these $1.5 billion vessels in 2018, to be christened the JS TPP.

Just kidding!

About the name. Not the launch.

The United States also extended a helping hand to Japan in enabling its military to operate in the South China Sea.

Amid the avalanche of piffle surrounding Xi Jinping’s visit to the United States, there was one news report of genuine significance: that the Los Angeles Times had been invited aboard a US nuclear attack submarine.

For the purposes of the exercise, war loomed in the Pacific. A nuclear-armed Jin [a Chinese class] submarine…was lurking off an imaginary U.S.-allied nation resembling Japan. The Jin was from “Churia,” not China.

Among them was Lt. Ray Wiggin, the sub’s weapons officer…was told to prepare to launch a salvo of cruise missiles at Churian targets on shore.

Nerves were on edge. War had not broken out. And the mock orders permitted an attack only if the Jin was clearly hostile.

“If they are [attacking] a freighter, we have authority to engage,” said Milsom, a ginger-haired graduate of Penn State.

Otherwise, they should track the Jin and await a “strike tasking,” an order from the Navy’s 7th Fleet commander confirming that war with Churia has begun.

The purpose of this junket was not merely, I believe, to provide a much appreciated thrill to the Los Angeles Times reporters; nor was it to alert Xi Jinping to the fact that the 43 out of the 71 subs in the US fleet are now in the Pacific, with 20 attack subs in Hawaii and another 4 in Guam; or that they routinely patrol near China to stalk PLAN subs and surface ships. He already knows that, I expect.

Nope, I expect the purport of the article rests in this line:

A nuclear-armed Jin [a Chinese class] submarine…was lurking off an imaginary U.S.-allied nation resembling Japan.

“Jin class” is the new PRC nuclear missile sub that only uses the submarine base on Hainan Island. Some time in the very near future, it is expected to receive some nuclear missiles that are supposed to work, and will commence deterrent patrols…against the United States.

Not Japan.

Japan has no nuclear weapons in-country, either its own or US (supposedly), and is therefore not a target under the PRC no-first-strike doctrine.

But that’s not the narrative that’s supposed to be picked up, especially in Japan.

To connect the dots, what we appear to have here is the U.S. declaring that the PRC subs pose a nuclear threat to Japan. These subs have to be detected and preferably bottled up near their base at Hainan in the South China Sea (which is the obsession of the US Navy, particularly as it awaits the debut of the PRC’s JL-2 sub-based ICBM). Ergo, Japan has a vital interest in joining US anti-submarine warfare activities in the South China Sea.

This assertion relieves Japan of a certain amount of embarrassment concerning its eagerness to inject itself in the South China Sea and strengthen its ties to Vietnam and the Philippines.

In a development apparently ignored by enthusiastic journalistic guzzlers of the China-bashing Kool-Aid (but pointed out ad nauseum by me), in a statement before the Diet Prime Minister Abe admitted that Japanese mine-sweeping operations in the Malacca Straits could not be justified as a vital Japanese interest since the South China Sea is only one of a multitude of sea routes available to Asian shippers.

Therefore, from a civilian/economic security perspective, there was no basis for joining US activities in the South China Sea.

But if we’ve got Chinese nukes in the South China Sea targeting Japan…Game On!

In fact, once Japanese survival is in play, there’s no reason for Japan to limit itself to operating solely under the US aegis in Asian military operations…

…what’s that, you say? It’s already happening?

In May 2015:

Japan and Malaysia agreed to bolster security ties and start talks on transfers of defense equipment and technology, their leaders said on Monday, as both separately wrangle with China over territorial spats.

“I’ve agreed with Prime Minister Najib (Razak) to raise our bilateral ties to strategic partnership,” Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told a joint news conference…

In June 2015:

Visiting Philippine President Benigno Aquino said Friday [June 5, 2015] that Manila and Tokyo will start discussions on signing a “visiting forces agreement” that could allow Japan to use bases there to refuel aircraft and vessels.

“We will be initiating all the diplomatic requirements to come up with a visiting forces agreement,” Aquino told reporters at the Japan National Press Club in Tokyo, adding that he discussed initiating talks on the subject during his summit with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Thursday.

The pact would enable Japan to extend its military reach to the South China Sea, where Tokyo is reportedly considering conducting joint air patrols with the United States.

And mid-September 2015

The general secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam Nguyen Phu Trong …and Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe announced a series of deals aimed at boosting bilateral trade and defense ties…

Among the agreements announced by Abe and Trong were a $1.6 million package for maritime security assistance for 2015 to help Vietnam acquire two used Japanese patrol ships, a memorandum of understanding on coast guard cooperation… The two leaders also agreed to step up collaboration on United Nations peacekeeping operations.

Maybe Japan really is “ready to lead” in Asia, after all.

The U.S. rather sordid campaign to legitimize Japanese collective self-defense over the objections of its people and against the dictates of its constitution looks to be the gift that keeps on giving…to Japan.

The U.S. might have entertained hopes that Japan could be controlled as a U.S. military asset by virtue of the fact that the current interpretation of collective self defense puts offshore Japanese military operations under the U.S. aegis.

But once the constitutional dam has been breached, there’s nothing stopping Japan from concluding “collective self defense” agreements with other “strategic partners”.

I have previously waxed incredulous at the spectacle of the United States empowering Japan to advance the anti-PRC alliance, while apparently oblivious to the fact that it is empowering Japan to operate as an independent power in Asia at the same time.

The U.S. strategy cannot even call on the comforting myth that, even if Japan feels an overpowering temptation to act unilaterally, it will resist thanks to its loyalty to the U.S. and its values.

The Abe government detests the victor’s dispensation the United States imposed on Japan, and the constitution that came with it. Absolutely without ambiguity, it seeks to restore Japan as a “normal nation” i.e. a nation with full military and constitutional freedom of motion and not beholden to the United States.

Basically, U.S. policy in Asia is becoming hostage to a Japanese government of anti-American right-wing nationalist adventurers.

Japan is not alone in its ambitions, its assertiveness, its desire to deter, its vulnerability to deterrence, and its capacity to work its way out of its military and security dilemmas.

There’s the PRC. And there’s everybody else in East and Southeast Asia. That’s a good thing, in my opinion. These burgeoning economies are robust enough to defend themselves and keep greedy and reckless neighbors from getting ideas.

So I might question the wisdom and morality of Japan’s military push into Asia. But I don’t view it as an existential threat.

But I think America is going to learn the hard way that “Asian security,” both in conception and execution, is no longer synonymous with “American leadership”.

(Republished from China Matters by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    “Japan and the United States will together lead Asia Pacific toward the goal of turning it into an ocean of freedom and prosperity, working in partnership with countries that share values such as freedom, democracy, human rights and rule of law.”

    US that forces ‘gay marriage’ on other nations? US that now imprisons people for refusing to bend over to the foulness of ‘gay marriage’?

    US that invades and destroys nations? Just look at the Middle East and Libya.

    US that uses billions to subvert other governments and foment crisis in Ukraine?

    US that supplied arms to ISIS and other crazies in Syria?

    Some freedom and prosperity for the Middle East. Some rule of law. Some human rights. Some democracy.

    And if Japan is so proud, why is still a puppet of the US instead of seeking true independence?

    That said, Chinese were stupid to blow their relationship with Japan. By alienating Japan, they just drove it closer to the US.

    Chinese are so petty and myopic.

    • Replies: @Duke of Qin
  2. Kiza says:

    “These burgeoning economies are robust enough to defend themselves and keep greedy and reckless neighbors from getting ideas.”

    Another great article Peter, you are the single most informed independent observer of the situation in the Asia-Pacific. Your eyes are always on the developments and you help us catch up on the real news (as opposed to the MSM garbage). However, your optimistic ending quoted above is unjustified.

    Firstly, what is really going on in Asia is the same political corruption game which has happened in the much more mature “democracies” of Europe. The Europeans cannot comprehend how their leadership can work so blatantly for the US interests and against the interests of their own voters. In other words, you are underestimating the corruptibility of the leadership of Asia, which the US is the World leading expert in (hand-in-hand with the government change know-how). Therefore, we should view the situation in Asia-Pacific as a repeat of EU under its franchisor of corruption, the US, with an added twist of a master franchisee of corruption – Japan. Japan and the US are TPP-ing the developing Asian countries like ducks into a row, to start taking the protection racket from them in the form of selling them their war hardware and protection services. I am quite certain that this scheme will work very well for the franchisor of corruption and his master franchisee.

    Secondly, you are overestimating the US concern about Japan going on its own. For the US, China is a much bigger problem than just a regional power in the Asia-Pacific. China is a global competitor to the US. If China could be contained by Japan, the US will leave a large share of the racketeering money on the table for Japan to take. Even if Japan grows militarily and somehow sheds the chains of the US control, Japan will then be even more capable of confronting and containing China. In other words, your belief that US should be concerned about the revival of the Japanese Militarism, the Second Meiji Restoration, is totally misplaced. Simply put, the US would be most happy for the hyper-militaristic Japan (becoming more and more an economic basket case) to confront China and free the US to conquer Russia aiming for the Siberia’s riches. If we know anything about the US it is that the US easily creates monsters (Mujahideen of Afghanistan, Japanese Militarism, etc) and only later worries about them.

    It is simply a nice division of tasks between the global crook and the regional crook.

    Finally, I have written this issue several times before – the story of the South China Sea is primarily a story of controlling resources and shipping lanes, but in a military sense China aims to place arrays of passive submarine sensors into the South China Sea to detect US attack submarines lurking around the Chinese submarine base on HaiNan Island. Such sensors, in combination with submarine sensing satellites (in preparation), would help the Chinese submarines avoid such US attack submarines and gain access to the open Pacific towards the US coast. The Chinese Jin class is the crucial component of the Chinese nuclear deterrent against the US First Strike on China – the classical MAD.

  3. @Priss Factor

    China didn’t blow their relationship with the Japan. Japan or rather Taro Aso and company chose to throw their relationship with China into the trash bin so they could trick the Americans into giving them their independence. You obviously didn’t understand Lee’s article or perhaps your American myopia is getting the better of you. Japan is not Americas ally. Japan is Americas unwitting vassal that was subjugated by American force of arms. The current US-Japan relationship was established back when Japan was still being occupied by hundreds of thousands of American soldiers. Abe and the faction he belongs do not accept the victors judgement that was rendered upon them after WW2. The war for Abe was a war of racial liberation lead by Japan against the whites in general and the US in particular, that is what their ideology teaches irrespective of actual more direct causes. Abe’s policies are being pursued to maximize Japanese strategic independence at the expense of the United States not China. Abe does not actually expect to fight China, as evidenced by Japans continued marginal defense spending, but is using the China threat card to increase Japan’s strategic autonomy and if the US and China actually come to blows, more lulz for him since his interest is to maximize Japanese influence which is well served by the only two obviously stronger states ruining each other. It is American policy trying to maintain hegemony on the cheap that suffers from magical thinking that by complicating strategic decision making with a third party resentful of them actually empowers US influence.

    • Replies: @Kiza
    , @Priss Factor
  4. Kiza says:
    @Duke of Qin

    Dear Duke of Qin, what you write is true: “It is American policy trying to maintain hegemony on the cheap that suffers from magical thinking that by complicating strategic decision making with a third party resentful of them actually empowers US influence.” But your wrong premise is, as I wrote in my previous comment, that the US wants to control Japan and any cost. The US wants Siberia, the biggest piece of loot on the planet, and is happy for its temporary deputy, Japan, to quarrel with China. My impression of the Japanese is that of polite racist egomaniacs. Therefore, I cannot imagine Japan accepting Chinese domination of the Asia Pacific. Also, the Japanese are the second most brainwashed people on the planet, after the US citizens. It will be extremely easy to whip up their nationalism in the environment of a tanking economy, especially after a nice false-flag or two.

    The US only wants to control the Chinese submarines, as a direct challenge to US invulnerability, whilst it will happily let Japan to the rest against China.

    Knowing both nations, I am absolutely and totally sure that Japan and China cannot co-exist peacefully, who dumped whose friendship first is irrelevant.

  5. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website
    @Duke of Qin

    “Japan is Americas unwitting vassal that was subjugated by American force of arms. The current US-Japan relationship was established back when Japan was still being occupied by hundreds of thousands of American soldiers. Abe and the faction he belongs do not accept the victors judgement that was rendered upon them after WW2.”

    You dammy.

    Japan knows it can never be the great power it once was.

    There was a time when Japan vied for top position in Asia. It sought to push out the Westerners and be rulers of Asia. In some ways, what Japan feared more than Western imperialism was the rise of China.

    It wasn’t always so.

    In the 19th century when Japan was under Western threat, Japan had hoped to rely on China to ward off the West. But Japan realized that China had lost the Opium Wars and was being dismembered by the West.

    So, Japan got very nervous. They began to modernize. But only to defend itself. Japan didn’t think it could compete with the western powers. But Japan made rapid progress and was able to get a toehold in Asia. And then it ‘defeated’ Russia, and Japan began to think that it could indeed be the top player in Asia.

    Now, Japan was no longer looking at China as a great nation but something to take a piece of. And China seemed to be lost forever. The Manchu dynasty fell and then China broke apart into warring states. China seemed like the sick man of Asia.

    But then, KMT under Chiang began to unify China again and by 1937, Chiang had unified much of China, which was finally getting things in order, if slowly and unevenly.

    Japan was now alarmed cuz China seemed to be finally getting its act together. China even seemed to threaten Japan’s hold on Manchuria as many Chinese demanded that the KMT do something to fight the Japanese.

    So, even though Japanese invoked Asian unity and independence to justify its aggressive move on Asia — in the name of driving out western imperialists — , what Japan was really doing was trying to secure its role as the dominant Asian power against the rise of China. Because if Japan didn’t crush China before it got too strong, China would eventually become the dominant power with its size and population.

    But the thing is Japan failed. Japan failed to conquer China and then it totally lost to the US.

    Since then, Japan gave all imperial plans. Sure, Abe may be right-wing and all that, but he knows reality. Japan can never be the dominant power in Asia. It can’t even take back Korea and Taiwan. All Japan can hope for is more business and more prosperity.
    And with China rising again in the 80s, Japan made peace with the notion of a China growing in power and prosperity.

    And by improving relations with China, Japan hoped to move out of US sphere.

    But China turned virulently anti-Japanese by making WWII war-guilt a major curriculum in Chinese schools. That created an entire new generation of Chinese who were anti-Japanese. So, every time there is a little spat between China and Japan, a lot of Chinese freak out and the Chinese government has to play to those passions.
    And Japanese patience wore thin after awhile.

    Look, get real.

    Japan isn’t looking for any kind of dominance in Asia. It wants to be on good terms with other Asian nations. It wants more independence from the US, but this is only possible if Japan has good relations with China. But if Japan fears China — and Japan really does fear China — , it has no chance but to grow closer to the US.

    Sure, Abe may use China-fear to call for more military independence and national autonomy, but that’s just talk. What is happening in Japan is not unlike what is happening in Vietnam and Philippines that are also growing closer to the US, and why?

    Because they too fear China.

    Look, China has to see itself as an elephant surrounded by pigs. The elephant has to be more careful in what it says and does cuz a false move can crush the pigs. China so big, its neighbors so small.
    China needs to understand that smaller nations are naturally afraid of elephant China. They want peace with China but because China is so big and growing stronger, they get nervous when China makes belligerent noises.

    If a mouse roared at you, you would laugh. If a tiger roared at you, you would shit.
    When China talks, it’s like a tiger talking to mice. Mice get nervous.

    Even when an elephant sleeps, it has to be careful cuz if it rolled over carelessly, it could crush pigs nearby.
    So, China needs to play more gingerly. But it’s been acting big and angry, and this makes all Asian nations worry.

    You call yourself the duke but you’re just a mook.

    What you say would be true IF Japan was looking to be the dominant power of Asia again. But Japan has no such dreams. The Japanese Right simply wants more independence from the US, but this isn’t possible as Japan now sees China as the #1 threat.

    China really blew it.

    • Replies: @Duke of Qin
  6. @Priss Factor

    Your analysis makes several fundamental errors. First you underestimate the arrogance not to say delusionality of the Japanese right. Every bit of logic told them that it wasn’t feasible for them to go to war against the United States to begin with, but they attacked Pearl Harbor anyway.

    You also overestimate the impact of Chinese public opinion on Japanese domestic and foreign policy. This is actually an old passive aggressive political rationalization that Japan has historically deployed to absolve itself of any agency or responsibility in her own decision making process. It is always so and so did this so Japan is “regrettably” “forced” to do this. China is also fundamentally not even responsible for guilt tripping Japan as it were. Article 9, Japan’s Constitution, her newfound post war pacifism, war guilt, etc were not fashioned by the Chinese. They were created by the Americans in image of their liberal world order. Everything that Abe seeks to overturn and the historical judgement that he seeks to undo wasn’t the result of the Chinese, but rather the Americans.

    Your timing is also a bit off. In the 1980s China was a post Maoist basketcase still poorer than most African countries. The idea of China as a rival to the American hegemony simply wasn’t a realistic threat scenario 30 years ago. Likewise the downturn in current sino Japanese wasn’t a gradual culmination of Chinese ill will but rather a sharp breaking in 2006 after Junichiro Koizumis departure from office and the ascension of Taro Aso, Abe’s ideological predecessor as Prime minister and now current foreign minister. The survey data’s actually bear this out with 2006 being the last year in which both Chinese and Japanese had positive impressions of one another when in 2007 it had swung to 80-20 negative.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  7. denk says:

    the pissfactory is pissing in the wind ….again !
    i’ve shown here irrefutable proofs how jp dumped the deng xiao ping initiated honeymoon , rekindled the dormant diaoyu spat to provoke china, all the while with the unitedsnake pulling the string
    in the background.
    u didnt challenge my evidences each time i brough it up , but show up with the same bs that its china who pick fight with jp whenever a new thread is opened.
    whats it, u dont understand english, willfully obtuse or just here to troll ?

  8. denk says:

    the prissfactory is pissing in the wind ….again !
    i’ve shown here irrefutable proofs how jp dumped the deng xiao ping initiated honeymoon , rekindled the dormant diaoyu spat to provoke china, all the while with the unitedsnake pulling the string
    in the background.
    u didnt challenge my evidences each time i brough it up , but show up with the same bs that its china who pick fight with jp whenever a new thread is opened.
    whats it, u dont understand english, willfully obtuse or just here to troll ?

  9. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website
    @Duke of Qin

    “First you underestimate the arrogance not to say delusionality of the Japanese right. Every bit of logic told them that it wasn’t feasible for them to go to war against the United States to begin with, but they attacked Pearl Harbor anyway.”

    Puke of Queer, you make me laugh long time. You so delusional you not understand what I say.

    First, Japanese Right of today so very different from Japanese right of pre-war. New Japanese right since end of war develop with pragmatism and sense of dependence. They not so ideological. They realistic and develop in dependence to US. So, it very different from pre-war Japanese right. What today’s Japanese Right want is more pride and freedom of action. It not seek dominate Asia or Pacific. New Japanese right understand US and China now the big powers. They only want Japan to be more proud and have more elbow space.

    But China act bad, so Japan now turn more to America. It same old game. But US play game too. Remember in 80s, many Americans fear fast rise of Japan. Then, US say China is good guy and treat china like most favor nation. But when Japanese economy go down and China go up, US now fear China and say weaker Japan is good guy. It just realpolitik. It not delusional.
    But China not play realpolitik but play big and tough, and this scare Japan.

    Also, Pearl Harbor now look stupid but not look entirely stupid back then. In 1941, Japan so sure that Germany defeat Russia soon. Also, Japan think Americans so anti-war and unwilling to fight that if attacked and scared at Pearl Harbor, US back down. Japan misread US psychology big time, but it seemed logical at time cuz anti-war passion so high in US. Japanese knew US bigger country with more power and industry. But Japan bet that US not have gall to go all across the Pacific to fight big war with Japan over Asia that US not much care about. Japan miscalculate. But it seem logical at time. After all, Japan think, we fight Russia and win. Russia lose will to fight. So, if US lose will to fight, maybe US give up long fight with Japan. Japan think wrong but it half-way seemed logical in old day. (But sometimes, crazy idea win out. Mao took big gamble when he enter korean war. He gambled US not use nukes. But if US decide use nukes, Mao’s China finished. Mao gambled too. And Vietnamese gamble that if they fight on, US eventually quit. Vietnam prove correct. In light of such gamble, Japan gamble on Pearl Harbor not as crazy when seen back then.)

    But not only Japanese miscalculate. Everyone miscalculate. UK and France make big mistake in wage on Germany in 1939. France got invade by Germany as result.
    So, democratic power can gamble and lose too.
    And Stalin make big mistake in making peace with Hitler. He think he can trust Hitler.
    But he nearly lose USSR. But then, Hitler miscalculate too. So, all sides miscalculate big time.
    And look at Chinese. Chinese make big gamble and take on Japan when it no can win. Chiang warn China: “now not time for fight. if we fight japan now, japan crush KMT, and it give communist second chance. what we must do is first totally destroy communist bandit, then build up chinese industry, and then fight japan.” But Chinee people no listen. They say KMT and Communists join up and fight Japan NOW. But what happen? Total ruin for China and millions die. Chiang was right, but Chinese hot-headed and no listen.

    Also, looky at Mao. China backward and need Soviet help. But Mao act big and make Khrushy angry and then, USSR and China split and China no get aid. Also, Mao push great leap and then cultural revolution. So many deaths and destruction.
    You see how the Chinese Left can be delusional and crazy. And some of that craziness still in CCP though not on level of crazy Mao.
    And looky at US delusion in invading Iraq. US think Iraq be made good and free and everyone happy? Haha, not so.

    “You also overestimate the impact of Chinese public opinion on Japanese domestic and foreign policy.”

    You not understand what I say. If only Chinese people get angry once awhile, Japan not worry. Problem is Chinese populist rage encouraged by Chinese government. And Chinese government feel pressure to satisfy populist mass rage by act belligerent against Japan. That is problem. Chinese government justify its rule by promoting patriotism by making Japan so very bad in eyes of Chinese. So, when people show anger against Japan, Chinese government need feel strong by acting nasty to Japan, and Japan not like this.

    “Article 9, Japan’s Constitution, her newfound post war pacifism, war guilt, etc were not fashioned by the Chinese. They were created by the Americans in image of their liberal world order. Everything that Abe seeks to overturn and the historical judgement that he seeks to undo wasn’t the result of the Chinese, but rather the Americans.”

    You not get it. Japanese Right not really want to overturn article in total way. They just want more flexible. Japanese Right want more independence but also want US to stick around. Why? If US gone, it just Japan vs China, and that scare Japan cuz China now bigger and getting bigger in economy while Japan slipping.

    You overestimate Japanese Right. They not fanatical. They just realistic. They see China acting pushy. But it not just Japan that feel such fear. It same thing in Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Philippines.
    You Chinese say it is only about bad bad Japanese, but why so many other Asian nations feel so much like Japan do? China need look itself in mirror.
    It a big power. When big power act pushy, others scared.

    “Your timing is also a bit off. In the 1980s China was a post Maoist basketcase still poorer than most African countries. The idea of China as a rival to the American hegemony simply wasn’t a realistic threat scenario 30 years ago.”

    You put word in my mouth like chinese cook put apple in pig mouth.
    I not say this state of affair happen 30 yrs ago.
    I even say Japan wanted good relation with China. I also say US change position back and forth between China and Japan.
    But in recent times, it a fact that China make it a policy to base new patriotism on hating Japan big time. And that make so many Chinese anti-Japanese, and now Chinee government feel obligate to act tough on Japan. And Japan real pissed by this. It like white people tired of black people crying ‘racism’ all time.

    In some way, today’s China more like pre-war Japan. Pre-war Japan military goverment convince Japanese people that Japan is big and proud nation that stand up to West and win in Asia and never back down. Once such populist passion spread in Japan, it hard for military government to back down from more aggression.

    Today, Chinese government make such big deal on China as new great power that stand up to bad Japan and bad US that many Chinese people no understand the need for compromise. They think, like Puke of Queer, that they always right and everyone else always wrong.

    That no good. It dangerous.

  10. denk says:

    pissfactory,

    dispute the following if u can, else shut up and stop spewing nonsense !
    *****************************

    ming dynasty,
    jp terrorised chinese coastal towns.

    1894,
    jp robbed tw, diaoyu off china.

    1900,
    jp partook in the rape of beijing,

    ww2,
    jp invaded china, committed genocides including
    the rape of nanjing, unit 731…

    1972
    deng xiao ping suggested shelving the diaoyu issue, both countries to move forward on reconciliation.

    2008,
    china suggested joint development of oil resources in ecs,

    the world’s no1 trouble maker, aka the pro arsonist unitedsnake , who make its living igniting sparks all over the world, was no doubt horrified by the imminent threat of peace …..
    a peaceful world means the snake would be out of work !
    it doesnt take too long for the snake to strike….

    2010
    with unitedsnake’s goading, jp broke the gentlemen agreement with deng xiao ping to shelve the diaoyu issue, declared the isle as absolute sovereign, arrested chinese fishing boat captain , who had been operating in the vicinity hitherto unmolested.

    2012
    jp up the ante with *purchase* of the diaoyu

    2013,
    abe staged a foto op, sitting in a fighter with 731 marking, a clear *in your face* provocation to china.

    2014
    jp commissioned its first defacto aircraft carrier, named after the flagship of ww2 invasion fleet to china,
    the izumo, an obvious follow up to the 731 taunting,

    2015,
    abe again kowtow to washington, followed obama’s dictat to dump article 9 of the constitution,
    thus setting the jp army free to fight on foreign land once more,

    another aircraft carrier was launched,
    its named after the aircraft carrier kaga, which took part in the invasion of china,
    must be just another *coincidence* , hehehe !
    *Its features have led some to conclude that it is meant singularly or primarily for direction against China, specifically for anti-submarine warfare.*

    is this your idea of jp *making nice* with china ???
    all this while, jp and its echo chamber in the murkkan msm keep scolding china of *harping on history* !

    so when jp former fm taro aso complained to the indians that
    *jp didnt have good relation with china for the past centuries till this day,* ! [sic]
    and
    pissfactory here blame china’s *belligerence* which drove jp to the unitedsnake,

    its classic ROBBER CRYING OUT ROBBERY my dear. !!!
    this has been the unitedsnake’s signature m.o.,
    looks like it’s rubbed onto the jp.
    just goes to show that when u lie down with dogs…….
    [my apology to the canine family]

  11. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    An article on China.

    All this stuff about ‘blood-thirsty’.

    I mean, come on.

    Yes, Deng has blood on his hands, but should a scholar resort to such hyperbole?

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2015/oct/22/bloodthirsty-deng-we-didnt-know/

    Cheapens an otherwise interesting article.

  12. denk says:

    wow, u manage to dig up a *scoop* !
    hehehe

    but pray tell, what are u getting at ?

    p.s.

    1]
    by changing subject,
    i take it that u’r conceding all your previous rants are bs. ?

    2]
    here’s some tips for u , a newbie,
    anybody can enter some words in a search engine and rake up millions of hits,
    how to separate the wheat from the chaffs is another matter.

    to wit,
    what u brandish here is a book review from [expired] uber sinophobe jonathan mirsky,
    thats not evidence of anything at all,
    its at most an accusation from mirsky and his ilks, at worst a smear job.
    knowing the man, i suspect the second scenario !

    lemme show u what constitute a proof, irrefutable, verifiable proof.
    here’s is proof positive that unitedsnake deliberately target civilians in ex yugo, afghan, iraq, africa, nam,.
    Q.E.D.
    http://www.swans.com/library/art7/gowans11.html

    hope this helps.

  13. AndrewR says:

    So basically Abe wants to establish The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere 2.0

  14. denk says:

    now why’d a nice girl like jp get into bed with the slimly snake ?

    here’s an article about jp,
    no, more than an article, its a historical fact,
    that jp also targeted civilians in its imperial wars,

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1135368.stm
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42797.htm

    perhaps beneath its aesthetic culture and art, exquisite mannerism, jp is no different from the unitedsnake, ruthless, predatory and unrependent ?

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