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We’re approaching the one-year anniversary of the fateful Unite The Right Rally, at which the violence that took place was all blamed on the “Alt-Right”, leading to much persecution (deplatforming, firings, conferences cancelled) of people identified with that movement. It’s been said repeatedly that the Alt Right is dead or dying—but it can’t be, if Conservatism, Inc is still trying to kill it.

It seems that Jonah Goldberg has time left over from beating up on Trump and refurbishing his credentials as a leading “conservative” Never-Trumper to hobnob with House Speaker Paul Ryan at Jonah’s stamping grounds, AEI. The two of them agreed recently that the “Alt-Right is about “identity politics.” In what appears to be a mutual congratulation session, the interlocutors proclaimed that “conservatives must reclaim “hijacked” terminology.”

“Intellectually do everything you can to defeat the alt-right,” Ryan said Thursday in an interview with Jonah Goldberg, a senior editor at National Review and a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where the interview was held.

“It is identity politics, it is antithetical to what we believe, and it’s a hijacking of our terms, just like the progressives hijacked the word, ‘liberalism,’ the blood-and-soil nationalists of the alt-right have hijacked things like ‘Western civilization,’” Ryan, R-Wis., added.

“So we have to go back and fight for our ground and re-win these ideas and marginalize these guys as best we can to the corners.

Paul Ryan: ‘White Identity Politics’ of Alt-Right Isn’t Conservatism, but Racism, by Rachel del Guidice, July 19, 2018

But there was absolutely nothing in this interview that leads me to believe that the Alt-Right, or what it’s imagined to be in this interview, “hijacked” anything from the Right—if that Right is represented by Goldberg and Ryan. In fact, I can’t imagine how Ryan, who is a very centrist politician, or Goldberg, who seems to be a badly-educated Leftist in all but name, have any better claim to the “conservative” label than those on the Dissident Right whom they’re laboring to marginalize. Having these characters define the legitimate Right is like asking zealous vegetarians to judge the quality of meat dishes in a cooking contest—or having Hillary Clinton give out prizes for feminine charm.

Of course, I have my own horse in this race, if only by association. George Hawley explains why in Making Sense of the Alt-Right, his balanced, book-length examination of the Alt-Right: “There are only two people from the paleoconservative movement associated with the Alt-Right in any meaningful way. The first is Paul Gottfried…” (The second: the late Sam Francis.) Although I don’t classify myself as part of the Alt-Right, Hawley notes that my scholarly work certainly influenced many people on the Alt-Right—especially his [my] books and columns critiquing the conservative movement.”

I was also “something of a mentor to Richard Spencer, who coined the term ‘Alt-Right,’ and he [I] wrote articles for both Taki’s Magazine and Alternative Right, where the term was first popularized.”

George, to his credit, does dissociate me from some of the more unsavory positions attached to the Alt-Right. He points out that I am “not an anti-Semite,” which (apart from the fact that I am Jewish) is certainly true providing one accepts H.L. Mencken’s definition that “an anti-Semite is someone who dislikes Jews more than is absolutely necessary.”

George also correctly notes that I “reject white nationalism,” for all the good it’s done me in winning favor from the obsessively virtue-signaling members of Conservatism Inc.

My own relations with the Alt-Right took a noticeable plunge from about the time that the Left began smearing Donald Trump as the voice of the Alt-Right. That was also around the time that Richard Spencer began identifying his movement more explicitly with white nationalism. Then last year came the clash at Charlottesville. This brought news coverage that was less than objective. In its wake, I found that I had to protect myself against a Canadian celebrity who claimed in the National Post that I was the spiritual force behind a neo-Nazi riot. Never mind that said riot took place when well-armed “Anti-fascists” attacked right-wing demonstrators who had a legal right to assemble; and after the police failed to protect those who were exercising their legal right.

But while I have criticized the Alt-Right, it is utterly dishonest for Conservatism, Inc. to excoriate the Alt-Right as racist. Fox News is awash in black race hustlers, with whom its All-Stars engage in respectful dialogue. Why are white nationalists or white race realists off-limits? And why does Conservatism, Inc. not treat its Right-wing dissenters as indulgently as those who deviate from it from the Left, e.g. George Will, Goldberg himself and other Never-Trumpers?

Of course we know the answer: professional token conservatives prize good relations with the MSM, with which they exchange favors while proclaiming anti-racist respectability. It is no longer the French Left but Conservatism Inc. that favors the motto “no enemies to the Left.”

That said, I’ll make an exception for the “antifascist” rioters on American campuses who rage against neoconservative speakers just as they do against Richard Spencer. But these demonstrations have been a godsend for their targets and neocon sponsors. They have created media martyrs, who after their cancelled speeches can revel in the praise of their TV colleagues.[Ben Shapiro: Conservatives Under Attack on College Campuses, NRA.tv, October 25, 2017]

And let’s not be hard on the Alt-Right and its contending internet stars. Given the glaring imbalance of power between the current Left and any serious Right, even a cleaned-up version of the Alt-Right would not likely have access to the MSM—especially after Trump was elected and the Alt-Right was no longer useful to smear him.

In fact, I can’t imagine any movement to the right of Conservatism, Inc. that would do better than the Alt-Right leaders in achieving a national presence.

Of course, Neocons, West Coast Straussians and the GOP Establishment have predictably seized Trump’s presidency because they were the “conservative” powerbrokers when Trump became president. It was always likely that the Old Right, Alt-Right or Dissenting Right would be shouldered aside.

The question is whether this imbalance of power will survive. I suspect the current situation may not last. Growing racial tensions, reckless immigration and a further weakening of already-weakened social bonds could all help the Alt-Right expand its following.

Part of the Alt Right’s eventual success may come from its anti-traditionalism. The Alt-Right is mostly (but not entirely) anti-Christian and advances a Nietzschean or neo-pagan perspective. It is thereby in sync with the growing secularism of millennials.

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And the Alt-Right doesn’t wear itself out trying to defend the traditional bourgeois family. It appears to be made up largely of young, unattached bloggers. Most of those Alt-Right publicists I read focus on racial conflict or the struggle between civilizations; and they push these themes far more frankly and with less careerist backtracking than the well-paid propagandists of Conservatism, Inc. They also cite telling statistics about racial and gender differences; and they pride themselves on their openness to science as well as on their sometimes vaguely defined “radical traditionalism.”

The Alt-Right belongs to a post-conservative Right. But the “conservatism” it rejects is not even recognizable as such. What the Alt-Right rejects is a bogus Right that misleadingly calls itself “conservative” but which in most ways is indistinguishable from the historic Left.

One signature Alt-Right position (and one that Hawley traces back to both Sam Francis and to me) is a willingness to mock Conservatism, Inc. for its servile kowtowing to minorities. Alt-Right publicists mock “conservatives” who call for dismantling Confederate monuments, promote the obligatory celebration of MLK as a “conservative” titan (after decades of conservatives calling King a philandering communist fellow-traveler) and advocate “moderate” as opposed to “radical feminism.”

Unlike Conservatism, Inc., the Alt-Right avoids mealy-mouthed celebrations of “legal immigration” and “diversity” when it opposes illegal immigration. Instead it demands an end to all immigration that is not compatible with what America was as a nation up until a few decades ago.

It is hard to miss the family resemblance between the Alt-Right and various European identitarian movements. Several years ago, when I attended a conference in Stockholm sponsored by Arktos Press, I noticed Swedish and French identitarian spokesmen cheek by jowl with their Alt-Right American counterparts.

A difference between the two groups, however, concerns their concept of the uncongenial “Other.” European identitarians are principally concerned with keeping out Muslims and limiting the influence of Cultural Marxists in their societies. The Alt-Right has a much stronger racial edge, which may reflect the peculiarities of the American past.

Still, on the racial front, one finds more variation in the Alt Right than the “fake media” might lead us to believe. Jared Taylor and John Derbyshire, among others who have influenced the Alt-Right, characterize themselves as “race realists” but reject the “white nationalist” label. Some younger Alt-Right bloggers like Mike Cernovich don’t seem particularly interested in race, except to whatever extent political and culture elites weaponize it against whites. Cernovich has famously trained his fire on the “deep state” and the evils of feminism.

Another Alt-Right spokesman, Theodor Beale a.k.a. Vox Day has tried to integrate “race realism” into a reactionary posture, including anti-feminism and the defense of Evangelical Christianity. The Canadian libertarian Stefan Molyneux has tried to blend Alt-Right critiques of cultural Marxism with anarcho-capitalism.

Ultimately, the Alt-Right represents a long-delayed reaction to the landmark Great Society legislation passed by the US Congress in the mid-1960s. Alt-Right defenders are opposed to the long-range consequences of the Civil Rights Act, the disastrous 1965 Immigration Act and Voting Rights Acts.They condemn these actions as beginning a process of cultural, demographic and political radicalization. Presumably only a regime change, one that Trump has not yet brought about, can alter this trend.

The Conservative Establishment would never make peace with any serious Right, at least not one that offended the global corporate capitalists, Zionist casino-owners, and arms merchants who payroll our GOP think tanks.

But what this assumes is a continuation of the present moment. A sea change may still take place sooner or later, one in which our current political elites are swept away.

If this occurs, it will be a true populist revolt among American whites—not merely a new disguise for what Sam Francis aptly described as “the harmless persuasion.”

Paul Gottfried [ email him ] is a retired Professor of Humanities at Elizabethtown College, PA. He is the author of Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt and The Strange Death of Marxism His most recent book is Leo Strauss and the Conservative Movement in America.

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  1. FKA Max says:

    Outstanding, Mr. Gottfried!

    Thank you for this most insightful and precise perspective.

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  2. As much as I rail against Soros and the traitorous neoconservatives, it is Jewish intellectuals like Gottfried, von Mises, and Rothbard who justify my pro-semitic biases.

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    , @Svigor
  3. And the Alt-Right doesn’t wear itself out trying to defend the traditional bourgeois family.

    The “traditional bourgeois family” is the basis of any healthy, self-sustaining society, of course — which is the reason that Cultural Marxists put so much effort into attacking it (and Christianity) using feminism, no-fault divorce, homosexualism, transexualism, etc.

    That said, reimposing normal family structure can only be achieved through either attaining political power, or forming separate communities with their own standards. In the absence of political/ media/ educational power, focusing too much on degeneracy is putting the cart before the horse.

    Good link to Steve Sailer’s dissection of Slate’s “Not All Sluts/Mudsharks Are Like That!” bleat, though.
    It certainly doesn’t hurt to shame female promiscuity, to mock the glorification of “single mothers,” or to use accurate terms like “illegitimate child.”

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  4. Conservatives and Liberals disagree regarding the value of church, family and tradition on one hand and individual autonomy/sovereignty on the other. Capitalists and Socialists disagree regarding the distribution of wealth and ownership of means of production. None of that matters to the owner/operators of the Anglo/Zio Empire. They are devoted to rent seeking and corruption and they are devoid of conscience.

    We the people are witnessing the collapse of said empire from within the belly of the beast. In the near future we will be focused almost exclusively on survival. We really don’t have the luxury of meditating on ideology. Donald Trump cannot save us. But he can facilitate a softer landing. This because he is not devoted to the continuation of empire. He knows that cooperation/competition with China and Russia are a better deal than getting killed fighting them.

    Whatever your preferred ideology your immediate choice is between Nationalism or Imperialism (Globalism). The Globalists would rule the Earth by force of arms. A hand full of stateless monopolists would own the Earth. The people of Earth would be their serfs in an eternal Feudalism. Trump ain’t much but he’s all we’ve got. And to the Globalists we are mud people.

    A negotiated end of empire is far better for the proles than a crash in isolation from the rest of the world. After the crash, in post imperial America, when we are all back to eating regular and living indoors, we can discuss the finer points of left right and conservative liberal.

  5. Mr. Anon says:

    “It is identity politics, it is antithetical to what we believe, and it’s a hijacking of our terms, ………………….” Ryan, R-Wis., added.

    Whenever representatives of Conservative Inc. make this claim (as they often do), they should be asked this:

    Why?

    Why is somebody’s racial/ethnic identity innately illegitimate as the basis for political organization?

    Conservatism, I thought – I was told so by George F. Will – was about recognizing the intrinsic, organic structure of human society as the legitimate basis of political organization. Establicons still even espouse this if the identity group in question is “americans” (bureaucratically defined), or “capitalist” or “free-market proponent”. If it is okay to organize a political party around economics, why shouldn’t it be okay to organize around something much more fundmental to human existence – who your people are – which group you were born into and indentify with? That’s a lot more fundmental to who you are than which dead 19th century economist you tend to agree with.

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  6. @James Forrestal

    Well said, Mr. Forrestal. The Alt Right has a clear and correct negative message to the effect that mainstream conservatism is too ineffectual to merit respect, too ineffectual for its ineffectiveness to be mere accident. For its positive message, white nationalism is the common theme, but WN is not attractive or marketable except as in-your-face defiance of anti-white politics. Anti-white politics, in turn, are largely an assault on norms and mores that defined white-dominated society, and those include Christianity and so-called family values. If the matter is examined honestly , the “Jewish question” comes up, since anti-white activism and journalism comes mainly from white people, mostly Jews. Blacks and Hispanics have vanishing wealth and hardly any power at all. Their main power is to bloc-vote for Democrats who, once-elected, do the bidding of (mostly Jewish) campaign donors. Elected Democrats first pay minority voters with hand-outs, sinecures, and flattery, and then turn their attention to the social agenda of the donors. They also focus on fighting European nationalism which threatens to become an effective defensive resource for Christianity and resistance to political correctness in Europe.
    Against Paul Gottfried, I have noticed that most pagan Alt Righters are sympathetic to the defense of Christianity and family while those who are not come across as shallow fashion-followers who think Christianity is uncool or “cucks” who are looking to frame their Alt Right politics in a form that will not inflame Jews. A few of them are angry at evangelicals for kneejerk support of Israel.
    Gottfried, for all his virtues, shares with most Jews a distaste for the hegemonic Christianity of the older America. I think this underlies his frequent warnings against the inclusion of family values or sexual conservatism in the list of canonical conservative positions. To most Jews, Christian sexual prohibitions seem medieval and vaguely threatening, while even the most tolerant Christian hegemony means a degree of exclusion that is difficult to embrace.
    Nonetheless, to the gentile majority the tapestry of faith and faith-related family values is the lifeblood, something they can’t flourish without. As Christians or as pagans, an ‘uncucked’ Alt Right will defend beleaguered family values rather than pushing them aside as an uninteresting sidebar to celebrating Aryan greatness, let alone as a sidebar to celebrating the rationality of capitalism!

  7. If you leave out the defense of traditional values, the Alt Right reduces to white nationalism, which is a hard sell to say the least. WN is most attractive as a gesture of defiance against the demonization of values associated with ‘white society.’ But those demonized values notably include the things that social conservatives defend: Christianity, traditional marriage, sex roles, the prohibition against abortion, the celebration of American history, and such old-fashioned values as courage, honor, self-reliance, reverence, and decency. Meanwhile, the assault on these values comes not from blacks or Muslims but from white liberals, especially Jews. Even anti-white non-whites depend on white liberals to pay the bills and provide the platforms. So a “naïve” white nationalism looks like a non-starter. Gottfried doesn’t see this perhaps because, as a Jew, he doesn’t warm to the restoration of Christian hegemony that would go hand-in-hand with a successful defense of traditional values.

  8. @Mr. Anon

    Will knows perfectly well that culture is key and to the extent that nationalists, populists, racialists, and identitarians are appealing to the centrality of shared culture or innate proclivities that non-trivially determine culture, their position is unassailable. However, if one takes ‘who your people are’ as referring exclusively to genetic origins or skin color, questions can be raised as to the relative force of those variables in comparison to language, religion, shared history, and so on. Renan’s essay What Is a Nation? is very instructive in this regard. Cheers, JD

  9. How exactly is Cernovich Alt Right?

    The core Alt Right world view:

    1)0 Nonwhite Legal Immigrants forever….no temporary timeout moratorium

    2)Reclamation of all pre-1965 Working Class Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space from post-1965 nonwhites…

    3)Solidarity with Christian Russia…no apologies

    4)Close all US Military bases over seas…

    5)ban legalized homo marriage…

    6)Confiscate the stolen wealth of Jeff Bezos…Bill Gates…Mark Zuckerberg…..

  10. @War for Blair Mountain

    (((Cernovich))) is not alt right. He is a Jew with a Muslim Iranian wife. Nothing kosher here.

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  11. @Fidelios Automata

    Jewish intellectuals is an oxymoron. Gottfried got a slight boost in his IQ because many of his dumber ancestors were winnowed. Here is an article containing an interesting conversation between (((Gottfried))) and (((Ilana Mercer))). http://takimag.com/article/encountering_gottfried/print#axzz5DhUS4uGx

    Gottfried, Rothbard, von Mises are not needed in the West. Jews are not needed in the West. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. White nationalism may turn off some, so that’s why I state I am for the West. Then we define what the West is not and repatriate and segregate people accordingly. Gottfried knows he is an outsider. He needs to move to Israel. One of his daughters lives there. (((Stephan Molyneux)) – yes, he’s Jewish – is a sophist. I listen to his podcasts and he will state that the smartest people are the Ashkenazi Jews, Asians and some Nigerians – non-Western people. The West did fine without these types. Read Ricardo Duchesne’s book “Uniqueness of Western Civilization.”

    The few smart Jews are losing the few brains they have because of their high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians.

    The Charlottesville debacle was caused by the left-wing mayor and police chief. The new rally was organized by Jason Kessler, a former Obama supporter and worker. These are staged affairs.

  12. Eh, Paul Ryan is not a “centrist” politician. Unless you consider “centrist” to mean removing every possible social safety net that the government could possibly provide while simultaneously making sure the richest among us us pay as little taxes as humanly possible.

  13. @attilathehen

    Perhaps this comment is out-of-bounds, but I can’t understand why anyone would care what Cernovich thinks about anything. His long-windedness, superficiality, and self-importance combine to produce a comical effect. I have no idea how this guy got “on the map.” Is he the guy that crashed a performance of Hamilton with Lisa Loomer screaming at the patrons that they were Nazis?

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  14. The broader idea has struck me multiple times recently, but only on reading this article did it strike me specifically in conjunction with reflection on Charlottesville: is “qanon” (regardless of the agents behind it) meant as an effort to construct a pro-Trump/MAGA base that is independent of the “alt-right” label? The timeline would work: “qanon” appeared some months after the Charlottesville fiasco, which in many minds significantly attached the “alt-right” label to Nazism and utter depravity. It is clear that the “alt-right”, broadly and objectively speaking, played a crucial role in electing Trump. But if that label got attached to things most regard as verboten, via Charlottesville, perhaps someone saw a need for a new route? (I am personally not certain what to think of “qanon”, but certainly many of the “qanon” venues raise useful ideas for reflection and investigation, especially when it comes to the corruption of the elites…) I’m throwing this out at as a topic for reflection. It seems viable, especially given that the “qanon base” seems to overlap only partially with the “alt-right/dissident right”. It seems to include people who would never align with the “alt-right”, and at the same time, it seems some “alt-righters” have visceral disdain for the “qanon” thing. So basically, I’m wondering if the progenitors of “qanon” conceived of it as a response to the perceived “own goal” of the “alt-right” at Charlottesville. (I seriously wonder if Bannon is behind it…)

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  15. Of course, Neocons, West Coast Straussians and the GOP Establishment

    So who is the Tupac and who the Biggie Smalls of this particular sectional feud?

  16. Anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:

    I laugh contemptuously every time I hear some self-described ‘conservative’ attack the alt-right as racist. Could there possibly be anything more worthy of conservation than one’s own race?

    “… the blood-and-soil nationalists of the alt-right have hijacked things like ‘Western civilization,’” Ryan, R-Wis., added.

    I would love to know how Paul Ryan would define or describe ‘Western civilization’ without reference to the White race that created, possessed and defended it. When exactly did ‘Western’ civilization begin according to Paul Ryan? With Adam Smith? Ludwig von Mises? Ayn Rand?

    Part of the Alt Right’s eventual success may come from its anti-traditionalism. The Alt-Right is mostly (but not entirely) anti-Christian and advances a Nietzschean or neo-pagan perspective. It is thereby in sync with the growing secularism of millennials.

    I have a lot of respect for Dr. Gottfried, but I must disagree with him here. I don’t find the alt-right to be very Nietzschean or anti-Christian. If there are alt-righters who are wary of present-day Christians, it’s mostly because the Christians disown and bash the alt-right without mercy, perhaps in the mistaken belief that the SJWs will go easier on Christianity out of some sort of gratitude … that, and the Israel thing.

    No, most of the alt-righters I’m familiar with accept and respect historical Christianity as an important part of our White heritage; they just can’t respect what it’s become. Of course, most of them also respect Paganism for the same reason: it’s part of our ancestral heritage. In both cases, most alt-righters advocate respect and good will towards those belief systems, even if they don’t personally hold them to be eternal, cosmic truths. They are both part of our heritage as a race, and therefore, both/either can serve as a source of aesthetical or moral inspiration. But it is probably true that, for practical matters, most alt-righties privilege empirical science as a body of knowledge. However, there doesn’t need to be any contradiction or conflict between these belief systems; all three can enjoy a place of honor in the White pantheon.

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  17. RVBlake says:

    The condescending remark about the “traditional bourgeois family” is jarring in an otherwise interesting article.

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  18. notanon says:
    @SporadicMyrmidon

    is “qanon” (regardless of the agents behind it) meant as an effort to construct a pro-Trump/MAGA base that is independent of the “alt-right” label

    yes and no – i think that is effectively what it is – a more MAGA centric alt-right for boomers – but i’m not convinced it was a deliberate op.

    i think it’s more likely an autiste-savant sensing ripples in the meme-verse who started it as a kind of troll and struck a rich seam that was latent below the surface and lit a fuse.

    qanon is a big deal imo – fake or not doesn’t matter – MAGA boomers really don’t like the deep state now and nothing is going to change their mind on the subject.

  19. notanon says:

    the thing about the alt-right that a lot of older people don’t get is in the last 10-20 years or so the education system has become openly and virulently anti-white due to the long standing cultural Marxist infiltration of teacher education – this is having two effects:

    1) suggestible white kids in all-white or mostly-white districts are driven to various forms of self-harming behavior (face tattoos, piercings, blue hair, transgender, radical leftism etc) – iSteve’s “flight from white” (and in some cases flight from white male)

    2) the more survivalist white kids in all-white districts and most kids in more integrated schools are going alt-right as a reaction to this anti-white indoctrination.

    so the alt-right is really two things: a mostly inchoate youth reaction to their cultural Marxist teachers in the schools and on top of but separate from that is a collection of public figures some of whom come from the youth milieu and some from earlier strands of dissident right.

    as the main driving force is a youth reaction to various aspects of cultural Marxism in the schools it can’t “be finished” – the associated public figures may rise and fall but that’s not relevant to the alt-right existing as a thing only to the potential final shape of that currently inchoate thing (and maybe not even that – i think the final form of the alt-right will be driven by material conditions and the eventual leaders of the alt-right will be those who guess what final shape that will be and position themselves there in advance).

    my guess to that final shape is…

    lolz

    (nb this two-tone aspect to the alt-right is why Cville wasn’t the disaster that most people thought it was – sure to everyone over 25 it was “OMG Nahtzees in the streets!!!!” but to white kids in the schools it was finally some adults sticking up for them.)

    (nb that doesn’t mean those kind of rallies are generally a good idea as they are very easy to manipulate)

    #

    GOPe (Ryan etc) are whores for the cheap labor lobby and deserve nothing but contempt.

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  20. Gottfried is right. He is an outsider and has no idea what is going on.
    Neither certainly does Paul pompous Ryan, any of the Conservatives or the Republican party.

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    , @Anon
  21. @RVBlake

    “Bourgeois” is often used in sneering tones but not always. It’s just a name for a certain social class and a certain social order. “Traditional bourgeois family” is a neutral term.

  22. >outsider
    Didn’t you invent the term “alt right”?

  23. Rurik says:

    correctly notes that I “reject white nationalism,”

    What is that?

    Are the South Africans who’re being threatened with race-based evictions.. “white nationalists” if they object?

    Are the Palestinians who’re being replaced – and object.. are they “Palestinian nationalists”?

    The Alt-Right is mostly (but not entirely) anti-Christian

    bullshit

    they certainly aren’t overt Christians, (and they’re definitely anti-’Christian’- Zionists), but I don’t know any voice on the ‘Alt-right’ who would be considered anti-Christian.

    In fact if they’re anything like the ‘alt-righters’ I’m aware of, they advocate for the rights of Christians to celebrate their faith. Sing Christmas carols in their public schools and have a Christmas tree in the classroom or courthouse.

    Of course we know the answer: professional token conservatives prize good relations with the MSM, with which they exchange favors while proclaiming anti-racist respectability.

    don’t you mean the (((MSM))) ?

    The Alt-Right belongs to a post-conservative Right. But the “conservatism” it rejects is not even recognizable as such. What the Alt-Right rejects is a bogus Right that misleadingly calls itself “conservative” but which in most ways is indistinguishable from the historic Left.

    what you’re describing is the (((cuckservative))) “right”. And the reason it’s indistinguishable from the left, is because both the putative right and left are dominated by Jewish supremacist$. Duh.

    I noticed Swedish and French identitarian spokesmen cheek by jowl with their Alt-Right American counterparts.

    that’s because the Swedes and French, (just like the Germans and South Africans and Palestinians and Italians, et al), are all being menaced by the exact same (((threat))). [Glob Jewish supremacism] Duh.

    it will be a true populist revolt among American whites

    not just American whites, but Western civilization, who’re both being threatened by the exact same Fiend. As indeed is much of the world, particularly those who share the region with the ‘shitty little state’, huh?

    what I cypher the alt-right to stand for…

    No more wars for Israel.

    No more massive and transformational non-Western immigration into Western nations.

    Protection and respect for the traditions, ethnicity and heritage of all Western people.

    BTW, that goes for all people, but it is Western people for whom any defense is considered ‘beyond the Pale’. (“racist”, IOW)

    I suspect that at heart, what the alt-right stands for, is a repudiation of the genocidal (((scheme))) that any defense of white people’s right to persevere, as white people, is racist and evil and smacks of Adolf Hitler and gas chambers.

    And that if Sweden decides that its experiment in ‘multiculturalism and diversity’ – was a sick joke, and catastrophic, suicidal disaster… then what they should do with all haste is to undo that terrible wrong it perpetrated against its own people.

    It won’t be without costs. The “refugees” in Sweden should be compensated on their way home. And given assistance re-assimilating into their lands. However, being mostly Muslims from Muslim nations or Africans from Africa, they’ll obviously be more assimilated into where they came from than they’ll ever be in Sweden. Duh.

    When you can say that Swedes have a God given right to live as Swedes in their own ancient land of Sweden, (or Germany or Palestine or Canada) celebrating their own unique and glorious heritage, and passing it all down to their Swedish children and grandchildren, with malice for none, and good will towards all, then you’ll start to understand what it means to be Alt-right.

    It isn’t about N. America or South Africa or Germany. All these nations (and more. like Palestine as I’ve mentioned) are slated for the trash heap of history by the (((PTB))).

    All the Alt-right is demanding, is what the Palestinians and French and Germans are demanding. That we will not go along with our genocide ‘quietly into that goodnight’, as we’re reduced to minorities in our own lands, with all that will portend. [see Zimbabwe, Rhodesia, Haiti, South Africa, Palestine]

    This battle is civilizational, and it’s being fought between the forces of global-Zionism, (the forces that George Will/Paul Ryan, et al lick the feculent hand of) that seek the destruction of the West as an imperative..

    vs. The Alt-right, who demand an end to the zio-wars. An end to forced diversity between radically different peoples, and a demand of an end to the blatantly genocidal immigration agenda of the Fiend (and his assorted minions… La Raza, Fred, BLM, shitlibs, (((MSM))), Antifa, blah, blah…)

  24. @paul scott

    Yeah, only the cool kids know what’s going on. Paul Gottfried writes a column that, in my opinion, is overly optimistic about the Alt-Right and even that’s not good enough for you. The Alt-Right base come across online as a bunch of spoilt cretins.

  25. Anon[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @paul scott

    And as you obviously do know what’s going on and what the author is missing would you be so good as to tell us what is going on that the author is ignorant of?

  26. Anon[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    “historical Christianity”. Yep I really miss those witch trials and the occasional fiery auto-da-fe don’t you?

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Rich
    , @Stan d Mute
  27. Alt Right Asian Legal Immigrant Policy:

    1)0 South Korean Legal Immigrants forever…

    2)0 Sihk Legal Immigrants forever…

    3)0 Hindu Legal Immigrants forever….

    4)0 Phillipino Legal Immigrants forever….

    5)0 Thai Legal Immigrants forever….

    6)0 Vietnamese Legal Immigrants forever….

    7)Bring back the 1888 Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act….forever and ever…

    Do this…or our fate will be in the hands of Asian Federal Judges and Asian Federal Prosecutors….

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  28. @attilathehen

    Stephan Molyneux is Jewish? On his Wikipedia page it claims he’s a Canadian of Anglo-Irish descent.
    Source(s) please?
    With all due respect, it sounds like you’re either a deranged anti-Semite who sees joos in practically everything (I’m not saying, BTW, that being an anti Semite qualifies one as “deranged” per se) -OR- you’re a left-wing troll trying to create a caricature of the Alt-right as being awash in deranged, irrational anti Semites.

    So if you’re a real advocate of the Alt-right and not some kind of troll, you’d do your cause a favor if you’d try to acticulate your beliefs in a clear, nuanced and factually-correct manner- stating easily-debunked inaccuracies only reinforces the stereotype of the alt-right as a bunch of angry “ignorant” white male deplorable bigots.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @jbwilson24
  29. Sean says:

    Excellent. What a pity there is a recurring typo of a linked word being run together with the word following it all through the article, and ‘ever’ is a typo for ‘never’.

  30. mmc says:

    TYPO- “The Conservative Establishment would ever make peace with any serious Right, at least not one that offended the global corporate capitalists, Zionist casino-owners, and arms merchants who payroll our GOP think tanks.

    should be NEVER

  31. notanon says:
    @Rurik

    I don’t know any voice on the ‘Alt-right’ who would be considered anti-Christian.

    a lot of the public figures are (or more importantly were) anti-Christian (some from a Nitchyan perspective, some Pagan, some atheist etc) but that seems to be fading for what appears to be mostly pragmatic reasons.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Rurik
  32. notanon says:
    @Anon

    the Mormons have retained the cultural blueprint associated with “historical Christianity” and that blueprint appears to be highly adaptive so… wat do?

    in other words does religion (or at least some forms of it) make sense from a purely materialist point of view?

  33. @Rurik

    Here, I did a “best of” edit of your comment:

    bullshit ….
    …don’t you mean the (((MSM))) ?
    …(((cuckservative))) … Jewish supremacist$. Duh.
    … (((threat))). [Glob Jewish supremacism] Duh.
    …. huh?…Duh. … the (((PTB))).
    … La Raza, Fred, BLM, shitlibs, (((MSM))), Antifa, blah, blah…)

    You’re entirely wrong about the Alt-Right and Christianity; they all speak badly of it. The only change they’ve made over the last few years is to tone that down in order to form alliances with believing Christians. They’ve all (Spencer, Enoch, McNabb, Greg Johnson, Red Ice) said so dozens of times.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  34. So, basically, the Jew Gottfried wants to throw his kith and kin under the bus by cavorting with the godless crew, in the hope that he would not only survive the resulting mayhem and chaos but also find himself in an honored position in the newly fashioned pagam society steeped in discovery of truth through scientific means forgoing the gains in heretofore sapiens… hope it all works out nicely, Paul!

  35. Rurik says:
    @notanon

    Nitchyan perspective, some Pagan, some atheist etc

    Yes, every time I read in the MSM that a law suit has been filed against some municipality for a nativity scene or Christmas tree in the wrong place, they always find some “atheist” patsy to take responsibility.

    Sort of like the lawsuit against the Peace Cross, and how they got the American Humanist Association to file the suit.

    But what American, of any religion or ethnicity, (((besides the obvious))), would want to tear down the Peace Cross, which is a monument to American soldiers that died in WWI.

    Indeed, when you consider that America was dragged into WWI through the treachery of Jewish supremacists, who now demand that all monuments to these men be taken down by a nation that mocks their sacrifice, could only be the work of Jewish supremacists.

    For what it’s worth, a quick look at the Executive Director of the American Humanist Association reveals this gem:

    Speckhardt was a fundraiser for various causes, including AIDS research and wildlife conservation, and worked on the “World Difference Campaign” of the Anti-Defamation League. He worked for The Interfaith Alliance from 1995 to 2001 as deputy director in charge of staff. Speckhardt worked as the director of membership and programs of the American Humanist Association for four years, is executive director.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Speckhardt

    Just ask yourself, why would any self-respecting atheist or humanist want to take down such a memorial tribute?

    Or remove the crosses at Arlington, for instance.

    Name me one Alt-right ‘leader’ who advocates for such a thing, and I’ll show you ((controlled opposition)).

    The Alt-right doesn’t need leaders. In fact so-called leaders are suspect by definition. A person can be corrupted, whereas a people’s will to persevere bubbles from the grass-roots up.

    Trumpism (anymore than Brexit or the elections in Austria, or Italy), are not about the leaders. They’re about the desire of these respective peoples not to be replaced and genocided.

    • Replies: @notanon
  36. Rurik says:
    @Cagey Beast

    They’ve all (Spencer, Enoch, McNabb, Greg Johnson, Red Ice) said so dozens of times.

    I too am and have been an outspoken critic of Evangelical Christianity and all those ‘virtue’-signalizing do-gooders in Minnesota bringing in Somalis and everyone else.

    There is a lot of damage done when Christians advocate spreading the other cheek as their children are being gang raped by dusky middle aged Muslims and blacks and everyone else.

    Insofar as Christianity is suicidally insane, those aspects of it, including the soy leadership, should be repudiated.

    But Christianity is a fundamental part of our heritage and traditions in the West. The cathedrals stand as proud reminders of the genius of the West, and all people need a spirituality.

    So to treat Christianity as wrong or vile, would be a grave mistake.

    It’s not the religion of our ancestors that is wrong and vile, but the pedophiles and charlatans who make up the ranks of today’s leadership, and the soy Christians’ who sell out their communities to ‘virtue-signal to the forces of Satan by demonstrating how willing they are to toss the future of white children into Moloch’s pyres.

    A reasonable way to treat Christianity is with a solemn respect for our ancestors and those others who practice a reasonable interpretation of Christianity- that doesn’t advocate for ‘gay’ rights and Muslim and African and every other kind of immigration.

    It isn’t Christianity per se that’s the problem, but rather the rot in the Church, (evangelical Zionism, Catholic pedophiles) that has sold its soul for its version of thirty shekels.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast, Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Stan d Mute
  37. Rich says:
    @Anon

    Witch trials? A handful at the most. Auto-da-fe? If you’re referring to the Spanish Inquisition, this was more of a political movement,a political necessity. Spain had been occupied by foreign Moslems and their Jewish allies for several hundred years. The Spanish Monarch, in his magnanimity, allowed these foreigners to stay in his country, if they agreed to give up their foreign religions and become part of Spanish society. Many did. In fact, of those that stayed, most converted and became Spanish as shown by recent DNA testing of the modern Spaniard. Those that didn’t were spies, or potential spies, and had to be rooted out. By our modern standards, maybe they were severe, but we weren’t there and have to allow that perhaps, their methods, at that time, were necessary.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  38. @Rurik

    The “refugees” in Sweden should be compensated on their way home. And given assistance re-assimilating into their lands.

    I debated myself giving you that most coveted “agree” but can’t get past this pair of sentences which are like the proverbial turd nugget in a milkshake. No, a thousand times no.

    The invaders must be expelled, by any means necessary. Thought must be given to expelling them quickly and with maximum deterrent effect on anyone who may in future contemplate invading. They chose to invade, just as a home invader chooses to invade. Their reward should be no different.

    American negroes are the sole exception. Why? Because they had no agency in getting here. They, and they alone, deserve reparations with repatriation. They need to go back to Africa, for their own sake as well as ours, but they should be given assistance in the journey. All others should be strongly encouraged to make a swim for it…

    • Replies: @pepperinmono
    , @Rurik
  39. @Anon

    Yep I really miss those witch trials

    Miss them? When did they stop? I still see people being destroyed for accusations of witchcraft (“racism”)..

  40. notanon says:
    @Rurik

    the lawsuit against the Peace Cross

    right the people behind that kind of thing are in a whole different league of violently anti-Christian bigots masquerading as secular – what i mean by saying a lot of the alt-right public figures are or were anti-Christian is a lot of them would have been the cliched kind of spergy fedora tipping atheist in high school.

    The Alt-right doesn’t need leaders. In fact so-called leaders are suspect by definition. A person can be corrupted, whereas a people’s will to persevere bubbles from the grass-roots up.

    agree – memes are the best leaders for now

  41. notanon says:
    @Rurik

    A reasonable way to treat Christianity is with a solemn respect for our ancestors

    important point imo

    • Replies: @Rurik
  42. @Rurik

    There is a lot of damage done when Christians advocate spreading the other cheek as their children are being gang raped by dusky middle aged Muslims and blacks and everyone else.

    See, I knew you’d get that “agree” if you just kept after it. And the paragraph above deserves an old-timey Unzian gold box. Bring back the box Ron!

  43. ‘…’ the blood-and-soil nationalists of the alt-right have hijacked things like ‘Western civilization,’” Ryan, R-Wis., added…

    Lol. It follows that before the Alt-Right ‘hijacked’ it, the Neo-Cons, and the Bush administration, and the Ryans and McCains et al were mounting a stirring defense of ‘Western Civilization.’

    Hence ‘Come One Come All,’ the hollowing out of our industry, and the ‘hands across the sea’ pact with that evil little den of Oriental and African Jews commonly known as Israel.

    They were protecting Western Civilization.

  44. @Lucas McCrudy

    Here it is, straight from the Jewish Molyneux’s mouth: https://media.christogenea.org/videos/wmfinck/stefan-molyneux-jewish-no-more-denials-please

    I am a girl, not a left wing troll and not an anti-Semite. If you haven’t read my previous comments, I have consistently stated that I do not blame the Jews for our problems. I blame the Caucasian RCC/Zioevangizer males for the problems in the West. I support Israel because that’s where Jews belong. They cannot have any rights in the West. This goes for blacks/Asians – Chinese, Koreans, Filipinos, etc./Muslims.

    I have commented before that I believe in biology first, beliefs second. Caucasians/Europeans are first in intelligence, then the Asians (actually, the Japanese are the only intelligent Asians), blacks are last. The West is not black/Asian. Jews can fall into 3 racial groups, but since they believe they are the chosen regardless of race, they are not Western. Beliefs, such as Christianity, are integral to the West, but we need a new church for the West. The papacy must be moved to the Congo or the Philippines. I have stated these beliefs many times, so if you did read them, you did not understand them.

    Another group of gentile males that are causing problems are men like Peter Brimelow, Jared Taylor, Paul Kersey. Brimelow’s VDare has been criticized as being a Jewish front. I’ve read their articles for several years and I have to agree. Brimelow was just on a podcast with Taylor and he was talking about a civil war in the USA. This old cuck has no clue about what’s going on. There is not going to be a civil war. Also, he mentioned his friendships with men like (((Gottfried))), and John Derbyshire (Chinese wife and offspring who has written Asians are smarter than whites). He and Taylor will always state that Ashkenazi Jews and Northeast Asians are smarter than whites. They are not. Asians/Jews/blacks/Muslims had nothing to do with Western civilization. If you cannot state that the West is best and that the West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim, you are the problem. Paul Kersey writes good columns but he is a cuck who states that Asians are smarter than whites.

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, if you accept black/Asian priests-popes, you are the problem. I was a cradle RCCer who left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. The Zioevangizers rant about how modern day Jews are the chosen. They are not. Modern days are not related to the Jews of the Old Testament or when Jesus lived.

    As for the deranged anti-Semites, E. Michael Jones, Dennis Wise, Sven Longshanks, Matt Raphael Johnson are these types. RCC Jones will visit low IQ, Muslim Iran to do his anti-Joooooz schtick and babble about philosophy being needed to bring people together and start a conversation. I’d like him to start a conversation in Iran by saying that Islam is a Christian heresy. He could say that in the USA, but he won’t because he is a deranged cuck. Dennis Wise is a devout Irish RCCer who worships Hitler. Let Hitler rest in peace. He was strictly a 20th century phenomenon. On a recent podcast, he and Longshanks started babbling that the Italians are black. They left out the Greeks and Irish. These nutcases are neo-Nazis. Also, I suspect they are government or Jewish operated.

    I don’t really like the term alt-right. I am a Western nationalist.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  45. @jack daniels

    Gottfried, for all his virtues, shares with most Jews a distaste for the hegemonic Christianity of the older America. I think this underlies his frequent warnings against the inclusion of family values or sexual conservatism in the list of canonical conservative positions. To most Jews, Christian sexual prohibitions seem medieval and vaguely threatening, while even the most tolerant Christian hegemony means a degree of exclusion that is difficult to embrace.

    Yeah, this seems to be one of those deep-seated, almost instinctive differences.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  46. @War for Blair Mountain

    1)0 Nonwhite Legal Immigrants forever….no temporary timeout moratorium

    2)Reclamation of all pre-1965 Working Class Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space from post-1965 nonwhites…

    3)Solidarity with Christian Russia…no apologies

    4)Close all US Military bases over seas…

    5)ban legalized homo marriage…

    6)Confiscate the stolen wealth of Jeff Bezos…Bill Gates…Mark Zuckerberg…..

    Hmm. Well…

    1)0 Nonwhite Legal Immigrants forever…

    I’d ban all immigration — white or non-white. We have enough people, thank you. Rooms are all taken. Sorry.

    ’2)Reclamation of all pre-1965 Working Class Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space from post-1965 nonwhites…’

    Well, no. Here my humanitarian scruples get into the act. If people are already here, they’re here. I’m all for doing away with all that affirmative action and welfare nonsense. I’ll even agree blacks shouldn’t be allowed to serve on juries or own dogs. However, I don’t like actually hurting innocent people.

    3)Solidarity with Christian Russia…no apologies

    Again, no. The whole ‘Russian threat’ thing is ridiculous. However, Russia didn’t just become a mighty fine place. Detente — not allegiance.

    4)Close all US Military bases over seas…

    There’s a yes. A nuclear deterrent, a brigade of Marines, ONE carrier battle group, and a reserve system.

    5)ban legalized homo marriage…

    Sure. ‘Homosexual marriage’ is an oxymoron in the first place.

    6)Confiscate the stolen wealth of Jeff Bezos…Bill Gates…Mark Zuckerberg…..

    Nah — not particularly. I’ll merely observe that Gates et al would have still worked like dogs even if they’d found taxes getting really heavy after the first fifty million. These people aren’t in it for the money in the first place. They like what they’re doing.

  47. @notanon

    2) the more survivalist white kids in all-white districts and most kids in more integrated schools are going alt-right as a reaction to this anti-white indoctrination.

    Yeah, most older alt-right types went through a process of doubting some particular aspect of The Narrative (usually race or feminism) then gradually progressing to the JQ. For a lot of younger Whites who get daily exposure to much more intense diversity and poz than what we grew up with… they see DS a couple of times, and think “Hey, this makes a lot more sense than the BS they’re feeding me in school and via the controlled media. I’m in.”

    • Replies: @Svigor
  48. @Rich

    Over 200 people were accused of witchcraft in Salem alone so “handful” is way out wrong. And who were heretics supposed to be spying for in Ferdinand and Isabella’s Spain of 1492…?

    • Replies: @Rich
  49. Rich says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Apparently you get your history from TV and movies, so I’ll try to enlighten you a little, if I can. The Salem witch trials would have been conducted by the “new” Judaeo-Christian Puritan sect. “Old Time Christianity” would be Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox.
    Who would the heretics be spying for in 1492? Perhaps the recently defeated Moslems? 1492 was the year the good King Ferdinand drove the Moslems out of the Iberian peninsula. You think, maybe, those Moslems might want to spy on the real Spanish in the hopes of reconquering the area? You might not know this, but the wars between the Christian West and the Moslem invaders continued even after they were driven from Spain in 1492.

  50. FKA Max says: • Website
    @jack daniels

    No, that was Jack Posebiec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec

    Neither of them calls himself Alt Right (anymore) – Cernovich used to when it was the cool and trendy thing to do “I went from libertarian to alt-right after realizing tolerance only went one way and diversity is code for white genocide.[138]” https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mike_Cernovich#Alt-right – but, in my opinion, they are part of the greater Alt Right/Alt Lite ecosystem that got Donald Trump elected. So, Mr. Gottfried is not wrong by including him and categorizing him as “Alt Right”, in my opinion:

    Breaking: You Are All Gerbils

    Alt-Lite cuck and shameless plagiarizer Jack Posobiec interrupted ‘Julius Caesar’ in Central Park for killing a Trump like Caesar in the play. He accused leftists in the crowd of being “gerbils” but meant to say Goebbels, yet Goebbels was the one who called out fake news and communists in his day and age.

    Source: https://www.unz.com/video/redice_breaking-you-are-all-gerbils/

    Cernovich has also been reading Steve Sailer for many years, which is a quintessentially Alt-Rightish thing to do, in my opinion:

    Steve Sailer called it. The media is making a full court press for tranny acceptance. There’s a new tranny story every day, it seems. http://archive.is/Wdany [85]

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mike_Cernovich#Anti-trans_bigotry

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @FKA Max
  51. @Colin Wright

    They are colonizing former Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space on behalf of their Nonwhite Geneline… not exactly innocent…gotta go…California doesn’t belong to Greater China…Greater India….and Greater Iran….gotta go…Yosemenite doesn’t belong to them…neither does the Skyline Highway in the bucolic Shenandoah Valley…

    Gates…Zuckerberg….Bezos….are motivated by demigod life and death power fantasies over the Historic Native Born White American Majority….and they want us dead…their stolen wealth gets confiscated…

    Racial solidarity with Conservative Christian Russia!!!

    • Replies: @Thomm
  52. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    I just wanted to explain why I agree so very much with this outstanding piece by Mr. Gottfried.

    The following is a selection of what I have been commenting, over the last year in chronological order, on this topic, which (almost precisely) echos Mr. Gottfried’s sentiment, assessment and observations of the state and strength of the Alt Right movement and its ideas:

    August 28, 2017

    Interestingly enough — and which many people are not aware of — some influential elements within the alternative, right-leaning/conservative media reacted even more dishonestly and irrationally to the events in Charlottesville, than did the mainstream, left-leaning/liberal media.
    [...]
    The Alt Right is actually a bigger threat to Conservatism, Inc. than it is to the coastal, liberal Establishment, in my opinion

    https://www.unz.com/article/charlottesville-and-the-new-york-times/#comment-1986722

    April 4, 2018

    The Establishment wishes the Alt Right were collapsing,
    [...]
    What basically happened is that the Alt Right was successful in repelling the co-option and infiltration attempts of the movement by establishment conservatives, and therefore the movement and its members needed to be demonized and/or be discredited
    [...]
    “So the narrative changed from ‘I hate myself because we have neo-Nazis on our side’ to ‘I really hate antifa, let’s get along and tackle the terrorists,’” explained Microchip.

    Many on Twitter similarly praise Microchip and his crew for Ryan’s stance against the antifa. For days, the online provocateur rallied Trump supporters online to call Ryan’s office and “ask him to publicly denounce” the group.
    [...]

    The Alt Right needs to keep pulling a Bush 43 on Conservatism Inc. and have it taste some of its own medicine:

    Either you are with us, or you are with the [AntiFa]

    https://www.unz.com/article/alt-right-not-self-destructing-its-just-been-mugged-by-government-antifa-alliance/#comment-2273066

    July 4, 2018

    What, logically, follows from this, I believe, is that the movement is in an even better place and in better shape than it was earlier this year
    [...]
    The best example of this mainstreaming of the Alt Right worldview is the example of Lauren Southern. Her reporting and activism on the European immigration invasion and the struggle of South African whites has brought white advocacy and nationalism into the mainstream by way of Fox News, Tucker Carlson in particular, the Donald Trump administration and other nationalist parties in Europe and elsewhere, etc.

    https://www.unz.com/article/surviving-as-a-dissident-minority/#comment-2402488

  53. @Colin Wright

    If people are already here, they’re here … I don’t like actually hurting innocent people.

    If a Fox is in my henhouse, even if he’s a nice vegetarian Fox, removing him to the forest from whence he came is “hurting innocent (Fox)”?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  54. @Stan d Mute

    As I have posted before, American blacks are the original unassimilated illegal immigrants. Albeit against their will.
    They have already had their reparations and then some with social programs, affirmative action , living here instead of Africa , etc.
    Can they be “white” too?
    Or are they unassimilatable?

    I don’t think so, but not gonna happen in today’s environment where they are encouraged not to do so by many whites who should know better and will pay in long run.
    It is a vexing question, perhaps THE question.
    They are certainly not going anywhere.
    The Democrat whoremasters will use them forever.
    Republican outreach will never work.
    Their whore leaders are leading them to slaughter and getting rich.
    Maybe they will see thing differently when illegals and Hispanics replace them as the preferred minority.

    I can see no solution.
    It is America’s Original Sin.
    They should have been made to return to Africa after Civil War as Lincoln contemplated.
    The loss of the concept of assimilation is key.
    If you wanna live here, it has to be on our few basic terms!

    For now , blacks have to marginalized politically.
    The Democrats have to be starkly seen as the Black party.
    Over time hopefully enough Whites will see the dangers to themselves and vote Republican and maybe then we can take country back.
    The Sailer Strategy.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @notanon
    , @Bucky
  55. @Rich

    the wars between the Christian West and the Moslem invaders continued even after they were driven from Spain in 1492.

    Pretty hard to believe anyone wouldn’t know that and since he’s on my “ignore” list from a while back it seems like you’re replying to a Troll. Maybe he doesn’t want anyone to know about white slavery?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates

    Then again, how many Americans know what or where Tripoli is, let alone why our Marines went there?

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/to-the-shores-of-tripoli

  56. Wrong strategy & tactics. Euro-Americans should not identify themselves as whites nor, for that matter, Euro-Americans. They should insist on American patriotism, which in all its aspects is defined historically first as British-modified & later as refurbished pan-Euro-American identity. Then, all others will naturally disassociate from it because they don’t see their face in that mirror.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  57. @James Forrestal

    You don’t need religion to argue for conservative sexual practices. I can argue against polygamy, gay marriage, most divorce and most abortion from natural law. Common sense and some intelligence will help people to figure out that druggin’, boozin’ and floozin causes diseases and degeneracy. For Gottfried it boils down to something deeper – race differences and his wrong idea that Jews are the chosen.

    When we look at history we have to look beyond ancient Greek and Rome. We have to go back to ancient Egypt and ancient India. Abraham was born around 1800 B.C. Egypt and India had sophisticated civilizations at this time. Abraham was a desert dweller. The ancient Caucasian Egyptians and Aryan Indians were fine until they started mixing with blacks/Asians. This miscegenation caused their IQ decline and destruction. Today Egypt and India are shitholes. What is more important is for Caucasians not to have offspring with blacks/Asians. This is what Gottfried and cucks can’t deal with.

    The hullabaloo in the RCC over Amoris Laetitia and communion for the divorced and remarried is a minor issue. What is most important is that a marriage between blacks and Asians cannot be sacramental. It can’t even be called a marriage. Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. Caucasians do not. Jews have a tiny population – about 16 million in total. Whites are numerous. This is why we keep seeing all these mixed race images in advertising and other media. Again, I blame the cucks because they refuse to deal with IQ and its relation to race.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  58. @pepperinmono

    As I have posted before, American blacks are the original unassimilated illegal immigrants. Albeit against their will.
    They have already had their reparations and then some with social programs, affirmative action , living here instead of Africa , etc.
    Can they be “white” too?
    Or are they unassimilatable?

    They’ve had reparations in spades! But they must be repatriated and the only decent way of doing that is via more reparations. Fortunately, given our national debt, it’s just Monopoly money. If they were assimilable or remotely capable of building or operating a first world Western society, they’d have done so by now. Between IQ science and genomic science, we know irrefutably just how different (70,000 years of evolution separates us) they are. Being among us is a gross humiliation for them and they’d be far happier romping in the jungles of the Congo with their cousins.

    If it costs us $1,000,000/head, that cost is recovered in one generation. Let’s build them Wakanda and send them. Everyone else, let’s escort them to the pier and wish them bon voyage for their swim home.

  59. Che Guava says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    That is very confusing. If you read it again to yourself, doubt that you will make sense of it.

  60. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    Atilla: “Jews are not needed in the West.”

    The West: We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” (((John 4:22)))

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Svigor
  61. @Stan d Mute

    Most would leave for 10 grand and a carton of Newports. Why sell them long when they’ll sell themselves short?

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Colin Wright
  62. Anonymous[439] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    Atilla: “If you accept black/Asian priests-popes, you are the problem.”

    Do you accept the Ethiopian that Philip the Apostle converted (Acts 8:26-40) as your Christian brother, or not?

    Do you accept Simeon the Nigger (Acts 13:1) as a legitimate prophet and/or teacher as the Bible calls him, or not?

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Svigor
  63. Anonymous[439] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Roman Catholic is quintessentially Judaeo-Christian. Don’t forget the popehat with the Jewish Star of David on it.

    “Inside every Christian is a Jew.” -The Pope

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  64. Che Guava says:
    @FKA Max

    Anyone remember the strong pre-mass-Internet meme, Richard Gere and the gerbil?

    It’s the basis of one of Rose McGowan’s best lines in Scream, over ten years after the rumour first spread.

    Like her character in that film, I think it was true.

    Richard Gerbils.

  65. botazefa says:
    @WorkingClass

    Agree with you 100%. Because of my training I believe that current technical trends support all your assertions. The technology now exists for singular world rule. Bezos, probably. Children now trust the authority of their phone. They have no ‘Brady Bunch’ or WW2, etc. They have no common experience other than to have their every interaction mediated by a ‘trusted’ third party (facebook/instagram/netflix/etc) – the ultimate rent seeking.

  66. Che Guava says:
    @attilathehen

    Atilla,

    Do you read Church news? The biggest thing lately is poop Francesco directly changing the Catechism on capital punishment.

    Unbelievable. Where will he go next?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  67. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Most would leave for 10 grand and a carton of Newports. Why sell them long when they’ll sell themselves short?

    Well since you want to be cheap about it, we can probably get it done for $20/head. The challenge is finding them item #1 on the list..

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
  68. @Stan d Mute

    ‘If a Fox is in my henhouse, even if he’s a nice vegetarian Fox, removing him to the forest from whence he came is “hurting innocent (Fox)”?’

    I think your equation between people who are different than you and vermin is exactly the sort of barbarity we should try to avoid.

    These are people. They’re perhaps people you find annoying and unpleasant, but they are people. We let them in. The thing to do is to stop any more from coming in. What to do as well is a good question, but let’s stop the influx first.

    We did this before, you know. We were having a joyful flood of incoming Italians and Eastern European Jews and Slovaks and Poles and Armenians and…and then we slammed the doors.

    Now most of those people are perceived as just more white folks — though they certainly weren’t at the time.

    We can slam the door again. Then work out what to do. I say let’s start with that. No need to formulate quasi-genocidal schemes of mass expulsion. That’s bad. We’ve every right to close the door, though. We should.

    Now. For everybody.

  69. @Anonymous

    Do you accept Simeon the Nigger

    Is that where the word “simian” originated?

    • Replies: @Josep
  70. @Anonymous

    ‘The West: “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” (((John 4:22)))’

    …and ‘the Jews’ of that statement became today’s ‘Palestinians,’ so how you can conclude that therefore we should support Israel escapes me.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  71. @MikeatMikedotMike

    ‘…Most would leave for 10 grand and a carton of Newports. Why sell them long when they’ll sell themselves short?…’

    I seriously think we should explore that. Offer ten grand to anyone who agrees to be deported to his ‘apparent region of origin.’

    They get the money now, we chip ‘em, and in a year, we round them up.

    It doesn’t even have to be made explicitly racial. Anyone at all can get the ten grand. Of course, there might not be a country in Western Europe we can bribe to take our deportees, and there demonstrably are such in Africa, but there it is.

    The beauty of it is that those we get rid of in this manner are going to be almost necessarily be the least desirable. Heck, offer each a hundred grand. On average, the takers will cost us more than that if they stay. Produce attractive ads showing the life they could (in theory) lead in Zimbabwe with 100,000.00 US. We’ll get all the takers we want.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  72. @Che Guava

    Yes, I keep up with the RCC news. The RCC is destroying the West. Fortunately, many churches are closing. The liberal RCCers thought they would get a network of churches for their social justice causes, but that won’t happen. I read an article that many RCCers are putting statues, paintings, other art from churches into storage. They want to preserve as much as they can.

    Cuck pope Frannie changing the catechism about the death penalty is just the beginning. There is going to be a synod in Ireland later this month. I have a feeling that Frannie is going to change the catechism about homosexuality. Right now it states that homosexual acts are intrinsically evil. This has been a bug up the arses of the now mostly homo RCC clergy. Frannie will probably remove the language at the synod. Many gays are attending the synod. When this happens, the RCC is gone. Vatican City is controlled by homos. Dolan, Wuerl, Tobin will be retiring to Vatican City in a couple of years. They are trying to get as much money as they can from faithful Catholics right now because they know the end is near. The RCC in the USA will be mostly gone by 2025. The cucks are losing their minds and don’t know what to do. I saw this coming a while back so that’s why I left the RCC.

    The good news is many people are converting to the Orthodox church. These churches are racial/ethnic.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  73. Crimson2 says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Masturbatory white nationalist fantasies are never gonna happen, bud. The sooner you get that through your head the sooner you can relax and enjoy time with your mixed-race grandkids. Or not, I don’t give a shit.

  74. @Colin Wright

    1) US blacks have no particular origin like US whites (If you’re from Minnesota, you’re probably Scandinavian or German) and if you’re from North Jersey you’re probably Italian or Mediterranean and if you are from the South you’re a Brit. They are a composite of many tribes.

    2) US blacks are 20% white. Mostly British. They might as well go back to Scotland.

    3) Which African country wants an unemployable underclass any more than Yorkshire and Belfast want Appalachians dumped on their shores to build meth labs?

    4) US blacks know that while welfare is not as generous in Africa.

    This is a pretty dim and typically ignorant white rural or exurban fantasy. That for Newport cigarettes and $10,000 the US blacks would move to Rhodesia to be farmers.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Colin Wright
  75. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Typo: … Jack *Posobiec*

    I just read on Wikipedia that Cernovich aka Thernovich https://twitter.com/thernovich http://archive.is/afn50 might have been the mastermind behind that publicity stunt:

    On June 16, 2017, Posobiec disrupted a Shakespeare in the Park production of Julius Caesar that depicted the title character as a President Trump-like figure. Posobiec was prompted by Mike Cernovich, another alt-right conspiracy theorist, who had offered a $1,000 prize for anyone who interrupted the play.[29] Posobiec was escorted from the event along with fellow protester Laura Loomer, who was arrested for disorderly conduct after refusing to leave the stage.[4]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec#Support_for_Donald_Trump

    P.s.:

    How The New York Times Defense of Racism Fuels The Alt-Right

    The New York Times defended racism under the guise of it being trolling. But from this many white nationalists, racists, and white supremacists have used this incident as propaganda to fuel their cause. NYT as well as many far left media outlets want to claim that the racists are pretending to be outraged but this is not true, many are celebrating this as evidence that their cause is just and that they can use it to recruit. So what exactly are they saying and just how is NYT fueling this racism.

    Source: http://www.unz.com/freed/cruelty-legitimized-nyt-hires-from-caligulas-basement/#comment-2449766

  76. Lot says:
    @Rich

    Grenada’s Muslim population was promised tolerance as part of its treaty of surrender. The removal of Spanish muslims happened only when they rebelled 10-20 years later, mooting the treaty.

    As for Spanish Jews, they strongly supported Isabel, first in her civil wars against her older brother King Enrique and then his daughter Juana, and later in the final war of reconquest. Ferdinand’s father King John of Aragon was also very close and supportive of his Jewish subjects.

    Expelling the Jews was primarily about religious prejudice in an era when religious wars were extremely brutal all over Europe. Ferdinand and Isabel liked their Jewish subjects, who by tradition were their personal property. The Spanish nobility found defaming Jews a safe way to attack the King and Queen’s authority. These nobility were the primary reason the Jews were expelled. If anything, Jews were the single most loyal group to the Spanish throne.

  77. Dannyboy says:
    @Crimson2

    Never say never, bossman. Every dog has his day.

    But hey, cheer up, your next “holoco$t” is gonna be a work of art.

  78. @Lucas McCrudy

    “Stephan Molyneux is Jewish? On his Wikipedia page it claims he’s a Canadian of Anglo-Irish descent.”

    Nope, partial Jewish descent. He has mentioned it on a few of his youtube videos. Sympathetic to Jews, particularly on the IQ issue, but also willing to criticize Israel and point out Jewish ethnocentrism and in-group preferences.

    One problem with people like Peterson and Molyneaux is that they don’t write articles or books very often, so it is difficult to cite their statements. “Go comb through their youtube videos” is an accurate description of the process for finding their statements, but it is hardly expeditious.

  79. @Lot

    ” If anything, Jews were the single most loyal group to the Spanish throne.”

    Umm, no. Not according to these books:

    Jews, Visigoths and Muslims in Medieval Spain: Cooperation and Conflict

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9004099719

    The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians, and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1610170954/

    They turned on the local Christians as soon as the Moorish armies rolled in, promising to take care of tax collection and garrison duties to the Muslims could move on to other cities.

    Somehow they managed to play both Muslims and Christians, ending up with immense power. Lands, merchant houses, etc etc.

  80. @Lot

    Thanks. He seems to be one of those who has a vague memory of history as introduced by the nuns in primary school. It is indeed hard to see what Muslim spies might have had to do with the expulsion of Jews in 1492.

    • Replies: @notanon
  81. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Pathetic. Look up Malleus Maleficarum. Discover it was by a disgraced priest in 1487 (before the Reformation in case the nuns couldn’t bear to tell you). Discover it was a best seller and much used in the persecition of “witches” for hundreds of years although initially not embraced by the Inquisition. Discover that witches being possessed by Satan and the use of trial by ordeal to prove guilt or innocence goes back as standard Christian doctrine and practice to at latest 900AD. You aren’t well placed to disparage anyone else’s knowledge or reasoning. So don’t be so stupid as to stick your neck out, especially when someone started it by just lightly trolling with a selective but accurate enough jibe at the apparently shorthand use of “historical Christianity”.

    • Replies: @Rich
  82. @Crimson2

    “Mixed-race grandkids”

    Nothing wrong with David Bowie’s son. I’m sure he is functional member of society, being the son of a millionaire artist and a model.

    Alas most mixed-race kids in the United States like Obama are the orphans of dull or flaky young white women from the lower middle class (At best) and a black man who walked off as soon as his pants were up.

  83. jsm says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Everyone else, let’s escort them to the pier and wish them bon voyage for their swim home.

    That seems harsh. I think we can afford to offer them free flights. Courtesy of Air Catapult.
    – albeit, it might be good diplomacy to notify Mexico beforehand, so they can string up catcher’s nets. Mexicans do make *such* a greasy mess when they go splat.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  84. @jack daniels

    I think this underlies his frequent warnings against the inclusion of family values or sexual conservatism in the list of canonical conservative positions.

    I never read or heard Paul Gottfried opposing the “inclusion of family values or sexual conservatism in the list of canonical conservative positions”. On the contrary, he frequently castigate mainstream “conservatives” who adopt left-wing positions on family and sexual issues.

  85. Them Guys says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Stan d Mute: Just give the negroes Double amount of whatever each negro/household receives per year in combined welfare/ebt/utilities bills/medicade etc…total it per year each negro Now gets, then Double that and pay it out as Cash and all Tax free cash…BUT…Put the two year total cash rebate onto an EBT type bank card, that can ONLY be used at or in an African Nation Based Money machine location….AND, add on the cash card, Electronic instructions, which get activated upon very first use of cash card….Instructions to be sent direct to Border Control Fed Dept in USA. That state, “This card user is an former usa African negro who agreed to terms of rebate cash, which makes that African negroes former usa citizenship to remain null and void upon activation and use of card. Then have instructions at Border Dept HQ, to enter this vital info into vital stats section to make certain that, If ever again said deported negro attempted a Re-entry into usa lands…They get arrested asap or Shot on sight as a rabid invader intent on harming the nation and/or American citizens.

    They can also include One Free Pass, One Way Boat ride ticket OUT of USA and INTO Africa. That also can be paid by usa taxpayers…It may sound excessive at first to pay 2 yrs up front etc….But compared to avg lifetimes each negro, counting small chillins too, would get in total. This plan I outlined here, the total per negro costs, Pales when compared to current or past cash totals paid per lazy, militant, arrogant, anti-Whitey, worthless and useless negro over last 60 or so years.

    PS: This can be attributed to a testament to and in Honor of Former usa Prez. Lincoln’s mostly unknown of, yet proven to be so, original agenda to round up former african black slaves once civil war ended, and transport them All back to lands in Africa for the betterment of Both Blacks & White Americans. Being such a huge Hero of most every lefty dem lib and african negro in usa, via this use of Lincoln’s name and prestige it will entice vast approvals from said combo of lefty dem libs & Blacks nationwide. A…Win Win agenda plan eh. Any blacks or lefty dem libs who argue with it will look very un-Lincoln like, as if he was wrong or bad in some way.

    PPS: “I Just Love it….When a Plan, comes Together!” Ret.Lt. Col. Hannibal Smith, A-Team Commander.

    • Replies: @Crimson2
  86. Them Guys says:
    @Anonymous

    Why did you change your screen name here? But a changed screen name wont change your fraudulent and false out of context biblical verses idiocy. What was it prior? “Echo’s of History” or something akin to that?

  87. standall says:

    Paul Ryan is such a corrupt liar. He worked for years to destroy Medicare and Social Security. What sort of respectability does he garner? He’s bought off by special interests and on his way to a lucrative lobbying position. For his type of anti-American corrupt bought off Republican their time in politics is about to come to an end.

  88. Rich says:
    @Lot

    “Prejudice ” would imply “pre-judging ” the Spanish Monarchy acted after several hundred years of seeing the Jews act as henchmen and servants of the Moslem invaders. It was only out of mercy that they allowed these invaders to stay and asked only that if they truly wanted to be Spanish citizens, they adopt the religion of that nation. Quite a magnanimous act toward an enemy I’d say.
    And imagine the wickedness of people who would pretend to convert, pretend to be loyal subjects, then break that trust? Naturally there would have to be a system to root out these backstabbing traitors. Thus, the Inquisition. Remember, if their religion was important to them, the Monarch had given them the option to leave the country, those that stayed, and lied about converting, brought any suffering on themselves.

    • Replies: @Lot
  89. Che Guava says:

    … however, the words in the English-language catechism are, IIRC “intrinsically disordered”.

    Given that, I know that you are correct in that there will be further steps, but I would not be sure that you are correct about the specific next one.

    This one was just testing the waters on a theme on which he knows he will have much support, both from “liberal” Catholics in the West, and from Jewish mass-media in the West.

    It may also have some connection with the negotiations with China.

    Note that all of this is mainly irrelevant to, for example, the Church in Japan, I don’t get the impression that it is so corrupt.

    Of course, declaring capital punishment inadmissible is against our govt. policy, but it is very rare, and I have little doubt that most here would have agreed with the recent Aum Shinrikyou executions.

  90. @jsm

    To be totally honest, I don’t think that Africa or Mexico want American-born entrenched underclass criminals returning to their ancestral homeland to sell crack cocaine or teach locals the finer points of car jacking.

  91. @Che Guava

    Che

    To clarify my point:They gotta go…California does not belong to Greater China…Greater India….Greater Iran….Neither does the bucolic Shenandoah Valley….They gotta go.

    The Working Class Native Born White American Majority was violently expelled out of California.

  92. notanon says:
    @jack daniels

    I can’t understand why anyone would care what Cernovich thinks about anything

    he’s alt-lite (pro-Israel liberal) but he positions himself just outside the alt-right for visibility reasons so you can get an indication of how the tide is running by how often and how strongly he denies being alt-right e.g after Cville he strongly denied being alt-right very often and more recently less often.

  93. Rich says:
    @Anonymous

    You are obviously an anti-Catholic, anti-Christian bigot and this prevents you from reading history accurately. It’s okay though, no one really cares what nonsense you spew. Very few “witches ” were prosecuted by the Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox Churches, thoigh, no doubt, there were characters back then, as there are now, running around naked in the woods worshipping the “devil”. If the state felt these nuts had to be rooted out, well it was a different time and I’m sure they felt they had a good reason.

  94. notanon says:
    @pepperinmono

    I can see no solution.

    broaden it out

    say it’s true that the global north’s advantages are due to genetics – long winters etc – then what is the solution globally?

    if the root problem is genetic then letting the global south move en masse to the north will clearly end in disaster (it’s already obvious this is happening) so the short term solution is separation but what about long-term – if the problem isn’t solved then this could happen again in 100 years, 300 years etc.

    one solution is build a big wall – defended with machine guns if necessary – and then beam cultural imperialism at the global south saying if you want to have what we have then:

    1) reduce population until you have a slight labor shortage
    and
    2) selectively breed for
    - higher IQ
    - lower time preference
    - higher empathy (i.e. fewer very low empathy people)
    etc

    applying the same principle to the US you’d have segregation + cultural imperialism aka the 1950s.

  95. bucky says:

    All I can say is that this is wrong. The fact that you even have to make this statement says it all. the Alt-right is not going forward with any momentum. Spencer acted foolishly and in a narcissistic manner throughout the year. He let himself be controlled by Anglin, who led them all into Charlottesville. They knew, or at least should have known, what a crapshow it would become. Their own recklessness is what led to James Fields deciding to ram his car into the people. I’ve seen the video. James Fields rammed the car. that much is clear from the velocity with which it hit the people.

    But we have to keep on coming back to Anglin. He is a pathological liar and he subtly wields control over other figures in the Alt-right by way of his dark methods of trolling and abuse. None of them dare challenge what he says, likely out of fear of what his troll army might do to them, and so he only draws them into more clownish poses.

  96. notanon says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Turks: the ottoman empire was expanding, moriscos were seen as a potential 5th column, Jews were seen as potential spies and agents for the ottoman Turks due to their 700 year long association with the white slave trade.

  97. Rurik says:
    @Stan d Mute

    American negroes are the sole exception. Why? Because they had no agency in getting here.

    certainly not the original slaves, but I suspect that if you sorted out the ancestry of the majority of N. American blacks, that most of their ancestry is from elsewhere in the Caribbean and the African continent than actual descendants of American slaves. Just as most white Americans never had an ancestor who owned slaves, but were far more likely to have relatives that died in a war to end slavery.

    I suppose what’s so confounding about the black American situation is how many of these ‘chip on the shoulder’ crybabies would fare in their own beloved continent.

    Colin Kaepernick should be sent to Liberia for a month of re-education. Upon arrival back in ‘racist’ ZUSA, getting off the plane, he’d beg the first white man he saw to please allow him to kiss that white arse, literally. ‘Please Mr., may I place my black lips upon your white butt cheeks and give it a nice grateful smooch?’

    ‘I never knew until now how wondrously marvelous we blacks have it over here in your whitey land!’

    From now on every day I awake, I promise to seek out and kiss the first white man’s butt I see’. Starting with President Donald J. Trump, if only he’d let me.’

    This would give the whole ‘kneeling’ thing a new meaning.

    • Replies: @Crimson2
  98. Crimson2 says:
    @Them Guys

    Redneck dreams never die.

  99. Crimson2 says:
    @Rurik

    Lol! This Nazi fantasizes about black men eating his ass.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  100. Rurik says:
    @notanon

    yes, thanks

    if the so-called Alt-right thingy is going to get any traction, it needs to be a big tent.

    But the Democrat party is morphing into a great recruiter for a Trumpian Republican alternative, once the cucks like Ryan are winnowed out.

    There’s even a good guy running for cuck Ryan’s congressional seat. You know he’s a good guy because Google smears him thus:

    Paul Nehlen is an American white supremacist and candidate in the Republican primary for U.S. Representative from Wisconsin’s 1st congressional district, which is being vacated by Paul Ryan

    “white supremacist”

    you know I suppose they exist..

    Meth-heads in Arkansas who fondle their pappy’s Lugar, (a souvenir brought home by grand pappy), and plot how to bring back black slavery.

    But what I see are 99.99999% of the people they smear as “white nationalist” or “white supremacist”, are just people who’re sick of all the anti-white hysteria, and Affirmative Action that fucks over their own sons to benefit every single non-white that invades from every shithole on the planet.

    Get here from Guyana? Well OK then, you get first place in line in front of that racist white American for jobs and university slots and promotions and everything else, because he’s a racist white supremacist and you’re a good and noble non-white whom he owes!

    ‘So make that fucking white American racist PAY for his racist white skin!’

    and if anyone objects to this state of affairs, well then! That can only mean they’re a “white supremacist!’

    So far I’ve asked people to define what they mean by “white nationalist” or “white supremacist”, when they use those pejoratives.

    None are able to do so, because in every case, they’re trying to smear white people who have every right to be appalled at the unfair treatment whites are subject to in their ‘own’ nations.

    But they’re supposed to put their heads down and shuffle along with it all. The Affirmative Action. The massive and transformational immigration of radically different peoples who no longer even pretend they’re assimilating, but are now coming as conquering armies, making demands, as we see now with the Mexicans at the border, demanding to be allowed to invade.

    And if you suspect that this might not all end well for your children and grandchildren, who will be even more marginalized and disenfranchised and ultimately given the South Africa treatment…

    well then!!

    that’s because you’re a “white supremacist!!’

    >>><<<

    fuck them and their smear language.

    white people have every right (and duty) to persevere, as white people. Our ‘precious bodily fluids’ and all. ;)

    Jewish supremacists, BLM, La Raza, and all the shitlibs and Repulicucks, and American expatriates living in Mexico.. notwithstanding.

  101. Rurik says:
    @Crimson2

    no, no

    nothing sexual

    just a heartfelt gesture of supreme gratitude.

    ‘if my ancestors would have been left in the Congo, my fellow denizens would be eating my flesh, literally!’

    ‘Thank the white Gods of providence that my ancestors were brought over here, where I can make million$ playing a game, and cannibalism is illegal!’

    When’s the last time you were in the Congo or Gabon?

  102. @WorkingClass

    Very succinctly and correctly stated. And not much more needs to be added.

  103. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Christians’ loyalty is to a foreign “King of Israel.” (John 1:49) They consider themselves “citizens” (Ephesians 2:19, Philippians 3:20) of Israel, hope someday to live in a middle-eastern capital city (Rev. 21:2), and are thus as trustworthy as that other tribe of dual citizens.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  104. Bucky says:
    @pepperinmono

    I am a loyal Dem voter so this strat is pretty horrible to me. My main issues and reasons for voting Dem are income inequality and environmental issues. I barely tolerate the race stuff and the LGBT stuff they do.

    What would be better would be a splintering of the big tent parties into multiple little tent parties, which very well could happen in the next twenty years. Trump came close to doing this.

  105. Lot says:
    @Rich

    Read more history and speak less.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Anon
  106. Rich says:
    @Lot

    It’s interesting that you choose as a pseudonym the name of a man, Lot, that offered up his daughters to be gang raped, then later has sexual relations with them. You should try reading a little about the individuals you choose to admire. Says a “lot” about you.

  107. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    He’s a vet FFS! He’s spent his life diligently acquiring a vast knowledge of animal anatomy and you expect him to advance beyond the comic books his primary school teachers read from.

  108. Josep says:
    @Stan d Mute

    If I recall from my Latin studies, the word “simian” comes from the Latin word for monkey, sīmia. But certainly niger (single-G) is the Latin word for black. I don’t know if you were being facetious there, but I thought I’d chime in.

    That aside, Anonymous[439] makes a valid point. After all:

    There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. – Galatians 3:28 (NIV)

    Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all. – Colossians 3:11 (NIV)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  109. iffen says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Your comments are definitely on the downward trend line.

  110. Svigor says:

    “Intellectually do everything you can to defeat the alt-right,” Ryan said Thursday in an interview with Jonah Goldberg, a senior editor at National Review and a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where the interview was held.

    “It is identity politics, it is antithetical to what we believe, and it’s a hijacking of our terms, just like the progressives hijacked the word, ‘liberalism,’ the blood-and-soil nationalists of the alt-right have hijacked things like ‘Western civilization,’” Ryan, R-Wis., added.

    “So we have to go back and fight for our ground and re-win these ideas and marginalize these guys as best we can to the corners.

    Lol. You couldn’t have paid Ryan to use the term “Western Civilization” until the altright found it, covered in dust in a corner where GOPers discarded it, dusted it off, and started using it. Now Paulie wants to play with it again.

    Nope. Finders keepers, Paulie. You Eddie-Munster-looking Chamber of Commerce Zio-shill.

    ***

    Paul, you’re correct that GOPInc condemn the altright to suck up to the left, but they’re also afraid of the altright, which has every intention of devouring GOPInc, and more importantly, can mop the floor with its spokesmen wherever free speech obtains.

    Some younger Alt-Right bloggers like Mike Cernovich

    Are there any alt-righters who consider Cerno an alt-righter? I think of him as alt-lite, and that’s what alt-righters always seem to describe him as. We can consider the alt-right as encompassing the alt-lite, but most alt-righters don’t think of the alt-lite that way. Mostly alt-righters think of them as a cucked controlled opposition who are a bit easier to red-pill.

  111. Svigor says:
    @attilathehen

    This kind of thing is silly. And it’s constant from you Konspiracy Kook types. I don’t care about Kessler at all, but he worked for a Democrat campaign somewhere once, so what? You people sound idiotic when you talk about people’s pasts as if they’re so damning. As if it’s some surprise that normies who became alt-righters have pasts that resemble normie pasts. OMG, he married a half-Jew, OMG, he banged a mulatto, OMG, he worked for Democrats. You guys sound like ‘tards.

    Sorry I’m taking it all out on you but I keep seeing this shit and it gets old. Not that you’ll listen to reason, but I don’t want anyone sucked in by your kind of bullshit.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  112. Svigor says:

    “I went from libertarian to alt-right after realizing tolerance only went one way and diversity is code for white genocide.[138]”

    That’s more woke than I expected from Cerno. Has he tacked back left since then, or does he still say stuff like that?

    • Replies: @notanon
  113. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    I have a lot of respect for Dr. Gottfried, but I must disagree with him here. I don’t find the alt-right to be very Nietzschean or anti-Christian. If there are alt-righters who are wary of present-day Christians, it’s mostly because the Christians disown and bash the alt-right without mercy, perhaps in the mistaken belief that the SJWs will go easier on Christianity out of some sort of gratitude … that, and the Israel thing.

    The alt-right position on Christianity is kinda like the alt-right position on economics – all over the place, with trends but no real consensus. I’ve listend to a ton of Daily Shoah recently, and I haven’t heard them bash Christianity once. If anything they seem welcoming of alt-right/radical trad Christians. They make a lot of moral arguments that sound trad and Christian, really. They’re all atheists but they have an expressly big-tent attitude. Now, this is apart from the idiotic behavior of Christians or churches working to destroy the West, whether via immigration or collaborating with the left, which is perfectly fair game, IMO.

    No, most of the alt-righters I’m familiar with accept and respect historical Christianity as an important part of our White heritage; they just can’t respect what it’s become.

    Precisely. That’s long been my position: I welcome Christian alt-righters, Christians woke on the JQ, race-realist and ethnopatriotic. The rest can go fuck themselves, they’re a bunch of heretics as far as I’m concerned, and don’t even deserve the title of “Christian.”

    (The rest of that paragraph was good, too, and I agree with it all)

  114. Svigor says:

    “historical Christianity”. Yep I really miss those witch trials and the occasional fiery auto-da-fe don’t you?

    No! Green haired fatty dyke faggot child molesters covered in shit and tattoos are way better.

  115. Svigor says:
    @James Forrestal

    Yeah, most older alt-right types went through a process of doubting some particular aspect of The Narrative (usually race or feminism) then gradually progressing to the JQ. For a lot of younger Whites who get daily exposure to much more intense diversity and poz than what we grew up with… they see DS a couple of times, and think “Hey, this makes a lot more sense than the BS they’re feeding me in school and via the controlled media. I’m in.”

    That’s how I got into WNism, right after 9/11. I resolved to figure out WTF it was all about. That plus being raised by a serious critical thinker (fuck niceties and pedigrees, I want the raw facts, from all parties) and I was a WN within a year. There wasn’t much of a “pull the thread” progression; WNs had much better arguments. Their opposition was anemic, more interested in censoring than debating. The “progression” was basically me internalizing all of it at once. The JQ made me into a WN, more than the other way around. Also, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t fertile ground. I grew up in the “deep south,” cheek to jowl with blacks. Like every white who has and isn’t good at feeding himself bullshit, I knew what they are.

  116. Svigor says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Is this gobbledygook supposed to be persuasive?

  117. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    That shit is a mile wide, and an inch deep. Bought-off pastors lying to their congregations. They’ll go whichever way the wind blows.

  118. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    The Bible also says not to allow yourselves to be ruled by racial/ethnic/tribal aliens. (appropriately in Kings, IIRC, but don’t quote me on that part). Ergo, Jewish rule over Whites has to go, according to Scripture.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  119. Svigor says:
    @Crimson2

    This might’ve worked 15 years ago.

  120. Svigor says:
    @Lot

    Expelling the Jews was primarily about religious prejudice in an era when religious wars were extremely brutal all over Europe. Ferdinand and Isabel liked their Jewish subjects, who by tradition were their personal property. The Spanish nobility found defaming Jews a safe way to attack the King and Queen’s authority. These nobility were the primary reason the Jews were expelled. If anything, Jews were the single most loyal group to the Spanish throne.

    This is a consistent thing with Jews, they always find the Court and glom onto and subvert it. When it stops being profitable, and they aren’t expelled, you get stuff like the Oktober Revolution. Their feelings towards the Spanish people were probably the usual blend of contempt and hostility.

  121. @Jeff Stryker

    ‘…This is a pretty dim and typically ignorant white rural or exurban fantasy. That for Newport cigarettes and $10,000 the US blacks would move to Rhodesia to be farmers.’

    Watch it with the gratuitous insults. I’m sensitive, and given to homicidal violence.

    Otherwise, I suggested a hundred grand, and you sadly overestimate our ghettoes’ finest if you think that wouldn’t get any takers.

    As to black states being bribable — lol. Israel actually had a plan in place to ship all her blacks — irrespective of their actual place of origin — to Eritrea and Burundi (or some place). She got shy once the scheme came to light, but obviously, the kleptocracies of subsaharan Africa are eminently bribable.

    This is a perfectly feasible and economically efficient plan. It can be expressed in impeccably non-racist terms, since it’s voluntary, it only gets rid of those too dumb to seriously be regarded as human, and it will get rid of those.

    Ironically, since it will purge our black population, we’ll wind up with a ‘black’ population more in line with what ‘progressives’ so ardently try to convince themselves blacks are in the first place — i.e., those who decline the offer will be passably intelligent, and able to picture the future past the next five minutes.

    So it’s a real win-win. After all, our blacks professedly object to being removed from Africa. Now they can go back — and get paid to do it!

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  122. @Svigor

    The company you keep is the company you are. Obama only left office 2 years. Kessler could not have changed this much. Kessler can be a Jewish name. You don’t think many of these “neo-Nazis” are not directed by Jews and/or the government? Kathy Shaidle and others have documented that this is quite common. This is why people have to stay away from the Nazi schtick.

    (((Molyneux))) is a full Jew. According to Judaism, Jewishness is passed by the mother. His father did send him to Christian schools, but as I stated, I listen to his podcasts and his libertarianism is typical Jewish nonsense. Dating blacks? Get real.

    In another article I had commented that the RCC is the head of the snake and that the papacy has to be moved to the Congo or the Philippines. Black/Asian priests-popes are unacceptable. I called cuck pope Frannie the head of the snake and that this head has to be cut-off. You commented to me that I was going after a big target too soon and that we had to take it step by step. I told you no. We need to strike at the big targets now. I’m bullshitting? No, I deal with facts. IQ and its relation to race, that the West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim, and that we need to start collapsing any universal brotherhood/church institutions and repatriating/segregating undesirables are what we have to do. You are just another cuck.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  123. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Josep

    Single-G or double-G matters naught, it’s all rooted in the same Latin word that stems from the Greek word Νίγερ pronounced Neeg’-er, found in Acts 13:1. http://biblehub.com/greek/3526.htm At any rate, no self-styled Christian nationalist on Unz has yet to answer the question: is the Black Prophet in Acts 13:1 (or the African convert in Acts 8:26-40) your brother?

    • Replies: @notanon
  124. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    (((Jesus))) is a full Jew too, who was quite the popular Rabbi teaching in the synagogue, according to Luke 4:15.

    Typical Jewish “nonsense,” say you? That’s exactly what a Jewish author in the Jew Testament calls his shtick several times in the first chapter of One Corinthians.

    Repatriating/segregating undesirables, like Christians who are teaching and prophecying while Black, such as in Acts 13:1? Maybe St. Pete will have a Blacks Only pearly gate into Jewheaven.

    Just another cuck, like Jesus’ cuckolded daddy? “His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant.” (((Matthew 1:18)))

    “For it is we who are the circumcision.” (((Philippians 3:3))) This is why people have to stay away from the wannabeac0cksuckingjew schtick.

  125. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Jewish rule over Whites has to go, say you? So much for being ruled by a foreign “King of Israel!” (((John 1:49)))

    I will give authority over the nations [a.k.a. the "Goyim"] that one Jewking ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery.’ (((Revelation 2:26-27)))

    Hey, hey, ho, ho, Jewking rule has got to go!

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Svigor
  126. notanon says:
    @Svigor

    he tacked away from that very strongly after Cville – i very much doubt he’d call himself alt-right now but he doesn’t counter signal as hard as he did directly after Cville – his positioning is a useful weathervane for how normie unfriendly the “alt-right” label is.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  127. notanon says:
    @Anonymous

    At any rate, no self-styled Christian nationalist on Unz has yet to answer the question: is the Black Prophet in Acts 13:1 (or the African convert in Acts 8:26-40) your brother?

    I don’t know if anyone here claims to be a Christian nationalist – seems more a case of nationalists who aren’t anti-Christian and maybe some nationalist Christians. The order of the words is critical as it implies which takes precedence: “Christian nationalist” implies the Christianity comes first and Christians are the nation (which is more or less the position of the civic nationalist segment of the alt-lite) whereas “nationalist Christian” implies the nation comes first modified by the Christianity.

    I’d guess a nationalist Christian would be someone whose nationalism was modified by their Christianity or whose Christianity was modified by their nationalism (where nationalism here includes acceptance of genetic reality) – either way the end result in terms of concentric circles of “loving thy neighbor” would probably lead to them seeing their own nation as brothers, other euro descent (Christian?) nations being first cousins and non-euro-descent Christians second cousins .

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  128. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Your extremely poor grammar combined with your obsession over race (and seeing race in everything) make you more similar to a black person than a functional white.

    That makes you the very definition of a Wigger.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  129. @Colin Wright

    I live overseas. Most whites who are troubled the most by blacks cannot afford to change their geography. Much less do they have the $1800 in disposable income to travel overseas.

    As a young man I knew them in Greater Detroit when they were having a kid as a young adult and trapping themselves in a situation they’d never get out of, in terms of physical geography.

    So I can live in a faraway country and say what I want.

    Nobody can find me.

  130. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon

    Christian nationalist is an oxymoron, as Christianity is a globalist cult started by an internationalist Jew, who said to “go and make disciples of all nations.”

    Where do you think the globalists’ favorite phrase “we all bleed red” comes from?

    “He made from one blood every nation.” (Acts 17:26)

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @Svigor
  131. @Thomm

    Why did white people become whiggers?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  132. General question?

    In the 1980′s whites did not act black. Why did an entire generation of whites-particularly poorer whites-born from 1983 on become whiggers?

    Poor whites used to listen to Judas Priest and wear mullets. What happened?

    Why did white out-of-wedlock births increase with whites?

    Why did the middle-class whites shrink. In 1988 there were poor whites but there was not a vast swathe of Oxy and Meth addicted whiggers between a few bubble cities.

    Can some white man tell me what happened?

    • Replies: @notanon
    , @JackOH
  133. @Jeff Stryker

    Please don’t enable this guy’s attention seeking. He is a troll.

  134. notanon says:
    @Anonymous

    sure, there’s a conflict between some aspects of Christian doctrine and nationalism – on the other hand a healthy society needs a healthy cultural blueprint so wat do?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  135. notanon says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    off-shoring + cultural poisoning (MTV etc)

  136. JackOH says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Back in 1967 or thereabouts, there was a Jeff H., a White kid with an Anglo last name who seemed to consciously adopt “Blackitude” within a very few weeks of the start of school. The self-regarding hallway-strutting, the heavy-duty Appalachian dialect shared by Blacks and country Whites, Black slang, the whole gig.

    The most astounding example of “Blackitudinization” was Lee L., a Hungarian immigrant. In ’67, he was a timid immigrant kid. I didn’t really see him again until maybe 1970 or ’71. Long hair, soul patch and goatee, Black girl friend, and the whole mess of strutting and Black talk. He was a bad-ass, too, and in 1972 died in a drag racing accident with two others.

    Black folks have an out-group coolness factor that I think Norman Mailer, John (?) Podhoretz, and maybe a few other gutsy White guys have written about directly.

    My school district was in the process of going from maybe 25% Black around 1965 to 70% Black by 1972. Plus, in my opinion, civil rights laws and Black rioting filtered down to young Blacks as, “We got White boys on the run.” White kids caught at a vulnerable time in adolescence took on the Black persona, and because they wanted to fit in with the winner. That’s my personal thought at least.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  137. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon

    What exactly is healthy for a society about Christianity, at least the original Biblical version? Most of the original Biblical version has been jerry-rigged with some rather creative interpetations so it isn’t utterly poisonous to society. Both Jesus and Paul were vociferously anti-family and anti-Gentile (European) society.

    And Karl Marx lifted his famous maxim nearly word-for-word from two Biblical passages by Jesus and Paul.

    Jew Testament:
    • “each according to his ability” (Matthew 25:15)
    • “all things were common property to them…and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need” (Acts 4:32,35)

    Jew Marx:
    • “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”

    Since when is Communism a healthy cultural blueprint?

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @notanon
  138. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    My mistake, it’s Deuteronomy 17:15, not Kings:

    Various interpretations from BibleHub:

    you may indeed set a king over you whom the LORD your God will choose. One from among your brothers you shall set as king over you. You may not put a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.

    you are to appoint over yourselves the king the LORD your God shall choose. Appoint a king from among your brothers; you are not to set a foreigner over yourselves, or one who is not of your brothers.

    you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses, one from among your countrymen you shall set as king over yourselves; you may not put a foreigner over yourselves who is not your countryman.

    you are to appoint over you the king the LORD your God chooses. Appoint a king from your brothers. You are not to set a foreigner over you, or one who is not of your people.

    Be sure that the man you choose to be king is the one whom the LORD has chosen. He must be one of your own people; do not make a foreigner your king.

    You will certainly set a king over you, whom the LORD your God will choose from among your relatives, but you must not place a foreign king over you who is not from your relatives.

    you shall surely set him king over yourselves, whom the LORD your God shall choose: one from among your brothers you shall set king over you; you may not put a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.

    Etc.

  139. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    I looked it up, and your shitty take is even shittier than I thought:

    To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations–

    that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’ –just as I have received authority from my Father.

    He’s making a promise to Christians there, you ignoramus.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  140. Svigor says:
    @notanon

    I’m talking about what’s inside the can, not the label – does he still talk about white genocide?

    • Replies: @notanon
  141. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    “He made from one blood every nation.”

    Darwin says the same thing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  142. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    Wow, you lie like your name echoes. It’s a parable about preparedness, the end times when Christ returns, etc. (apparently; I’m not into Christian Scripture and I got tired of clicking backward for context). The “talents” he refers to are CURRENCY that the master UNEQUALLY DISTRIBUTED to his servants, probably in accordance with his judgment of their respective investment talents (haha, see what he did there?). And he was proven right by what they subsequently did with the money. PS, what the two who went out and earned a profit are praised, while the one who only saved the money is criticized. It’s literally a pro-capitalist parable.

    When you have to create a strawman that’s almost 180 degrees opposite what your opponent actually believes, you probably got nothin. Are you trying to make anti-Christian WNs look bad?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  143. Che Guava says:

    I am not a U.S.A. person, as said several times before, but appreciate both your reply and sentiment (and many other of your posts).

    Lately i am reading of a politician who wants to sand-blast the beautiful and sad decoration on Stone Mountain (if I have the place name correct), I find it hard to believe this level of vandalism.

    If ever having the opportunity (time, which places to avoid) to visit there, it is something I would want to see.

    Nobody in Japan would imagine such a beautiful work being erased, losers in the variour post-Perry fights are honoured. Much internal tourism.

    Takamori Saigo has an iconic statue in one of Tokyo’s major central parks, also well remembered in his home prefecture, another statue, a great painting in a gallery there, many signposts of places where he was setting up schools, and one at the site of his beheading by Imperial forces.

    All of the many other places where people opposed the post-Perry imperial polity, in some places, pro-Shogunate, some places, restore the social position of samurai, in a few, Buddhist utopia was the aim.

    People in all of those places (many internal tourists from big cities, have no idea), do have some idea of the history. It depends on the place, at least in part.

    Your U.S.A.. has to protect Stone Mountain, it is so sad nnd beautiful.

    Sorry for too prolix

  144. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Jesus, Capitalist? Like I said, modern Christianity is jerry-rigged with creative interpretation to neutralize the Jewish poison within. But the expedient explanation falls apart with any honest examination.

    “Instead of a parable about the blessings of capitalism, this is a parable about the wickedness of greed.”

    Jesus Christ: Capitalist

    http://religiondispatches.org/jesus-christ-capitalist/

    In the context of everything else negative that Jesus said about the rich, your Capitalist Jesus is as risible as prosperity tele-evangelists. There is no Capitalist Jesus.

    • “But woe unto you that are rich!” (Luke 6:24)
    • “Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor.” (Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21, Luke 18:22)
    • “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25, Luke 18:25)
    • Parable of the Rich Fool Luke 12:13-21
    • The Rich Man and Lazarus Luke 16:19-31

    And you won’t even touch Acts’ “COMMON PROPERTY,” will you?

    • “Common Property” – Jew Testament
    • “Common Property” – Communist Manifesto

    If you can address that, let me know.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Svigor
  145. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Not hardly. Genetic studies prove there was no single Adam and Eve “one blood” creationist magic show in human history.

    This means, of course, that Adam and Eve couldn’t have been the literal ancestors of all humanity. Normally, such a scientific trashing of scripture could be absorbed, at least by liberal theologians. They’d just reinterpret Adam and Eve as metaphors. But that causes big trouble on two counts…

    Jerry Coyne (2013) Scientists Try to Reconcile Adam and Eve Story, Whiff. Again. New Republic.

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115759/adam-eve-theologians-try-reconcile-science-and-fail

    • Replies: @Svigor
  146. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    So you’re saying that Christians themselves are going to be satraps of Jewhrist, ruling over the Goyim ["the nations"]—like (((Singer)))-controlled Paul Ryan does already. Thanks for clearing that up!

  147. Svigor says:

    So you’re saying that Christians themselves are going to be satraps of Jewhrist, ruling over the Goyim ["the nations"]—like (((Singer)))-controlled Paul Ryan does already. Thanks for clearing that up!

    Jews themselves love this “Jesus was a Jew” thing. They only use it as a taunt, though. G**gle lists of famous Jews, Christ is absent from pretty much all of them. In the real world, Jews loathe Christianity and Christ. The real question is, why do you sound so much like a Jew? Isn’t that the kind of argumentation you use? Maybe you should try answering it for once.

    I can’t really reply to the rest of your comment, because it’s undecipherable gobbledlygook.

  148. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    Ever heard of allegory, knuckle-dragger?

  149. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    You just abused Scripture that made an explicitly anti-egalitarian, pro-capitalist point to “prove” that same Scriptural passage was communist. Now you’re changing the subject. I’ve proved how full of shit you are.

    Funny thing is, I’m an agnostic/atheist. The whole thing is a silly fairy tale as far as I’m concerned, but I just can’t stand you cunts. Like denigrating our people’s fairy tales is some noble mission, or even productive. Fuck you.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  150. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    “Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their ancestors treated the prophets.

    24 “But woe to you who are rich,
    for you have already received your comfort.
    25 Woe to you who are well fed now,
    for you will go hungry.
    Woe to you who laugh now,
    for you will mourn and weep.
    26 Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you,
    for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.

    Obviously he’s offering food for thought, not literal edicts, otherwise Christians would have to give up food, laughter, and praise, in addition to money. He’s saying there are more important things than money (true), there are more important things than your next meal (true), there are more important things than having fun (true), and there are more important things than virtue-signalling (holy shit, woke as fuck, WTF I love Luke now).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  151. Svigor says:

    Yeah let’s look at Matthew 19:

    Stay married, don’t divorce over little shit (OMG, the J-Left loves Christianity now!).

    7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

    8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

    Wow, did Christ just say religion’s about context? Holy fucking shit, I’m totally fucking shocked! Did he actually preface his declaration on marriage and divorce with a statement about context, suggesting that he wasn’t willing to sit there and get all Talmudic over every possible contingency, and that people should weigh all sorts of things in dealing with issues? OMG, I can’t even!

    11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

    Wow, lot to unpack there. Doesn’t sound very tranny-friendly. Also kinda sounds like he’s calling his Jewish opponents cucks. But the interesting thing here? Christ is explicitly saying that context matters, that you can’t just take Scripture out of context and run with like an anonymous Unz.com asshole, that things aren’t so simple because we live in the real world, and generally it’s what’s in your heart that matters, not legalistic Talmudic hostile shit like Unz.com trolls get up to.

    16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

    17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

    18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

    Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[c] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”

    20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

    21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

    IF YOU WANT TO BE PERFECT. This is like a WN guy saying “well, if you want to be a WN legend, give all your riches to the cause, and join us to fight ZOG,” then some kike (you) says “WN guy says you have to give up all your money to be a WN! I caught ‘em! I finally caught ‘em!”

    Thanks for dropping all this Scripture on me. WTF, I love Christianity now.

  152. Svigor says:

    If WN Christians want to have common property (with each other), that’s their fucking business; I’m fine with it. They’re welcome in my ethnostate. Same goes for WN socialists, national socialists, fascists, whatever. My anti-communism is well down the list from my pro-whiteness and countersemitism (Hell, my countersemitism is well down the list from my pro-whiteness). If a buncha commies suddenly start fighting ZOG I’ll mail them a donation.

  153. Svigor says:

    And I only need to keep reading to see Christ wrek you again:

    2 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

    23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

    25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

    26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

    So much for the camel shit.

    Also, I like how Christ wrekt the rich dude by getting right to the one thing he loved more than God (or his race). Saw right through that nibba.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  154. notanon says:
    @Anonymous

    What exactly is healthy for a society about Christianity

    the cultural blueprint that came to be associated with it

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  155. notanon says:
    @Svigor

    right – i already know what’s inside the can (pro-Israel SJW) – the point i’m making is his positioning is useful as a weather vane.

  156. Anonymous[984] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Oh, now the Jew Testament is just easy-to-explain-away “food for thought.” Gotcha. resurrection, being born again, all that’s is mere metaphorical “food for thought.” Who knew, until the Jewsplainer told me?

    otherwise Christians would have to give up food, laughter, and praise, in addition to money.

    I bet you never considered taking the Jesus character seriously, did you?

    “Jesus Christ is most closely akin to a Cynic in the Greek philosophical tradition.”

    Paul Rhodes Eddy, “Jesus as Diogenes? Reflections on the Cynic Jesus Thesis.” Journal of Biblical Literature. Vol. 115, No. 3 (Autumn, 1996), pp. 449-469.

    And no, you don’t say it Dye-oh-jeans.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  157. Anonymous[984] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Jesus Christ, Capitalist Superstar? Or Bolshevist?

    “[Jesus] rejects everything that exists without offering anything to replace it. He arrives at dissolving all existing social ties…The motive force behind the purity and power of this complete negation is ecstatic inspiration and enthusiastic hope of a new world. Hence his passionate attack upon everything that exists. Everything may be destroyed because God in His omnipotence will rebuild the future order…The clearest modern parallel to the attitude of complete negation of primitive Christianity is Bolshevism. The Bolshevists, too, wish to destroy everything that exists because they regard it as hopelessly bad.

    Ludwig von Mises (Socialism, p. 413)

    http://www.econlib.org/library/Mises/msS10.html#IV.29.14

    We report, you decide.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  158. Anonymous[984] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Oh sure, the account of Jesus humiliating the Rich Man was put into the Bible just so Christians could enjoy somebody being “wrekt,” even though there’s nothing actionable to learn from it for exactly 100% of materially rich Christians reading it. Because Schadenfreude is a virtue.

    These sort of games illustrates perfectly my point: original Biblical Christianity has been jerry-rigged via creative interpretation to try to neutralize the poison of the message. Problem is, the original Biblical Christianity’s record never goes away, as this free-market author observes:

    Jesus’s words are full of resentment against the rich, and the Apostles are no meeker in this respect. The Rich Man is condemned because he is rich, the Beggar praised because he is poor…. In God’s Kingdom the poor shall be rich, but the rich shall be made to suffer. Later revisers have tried to soften the words of Christ against the rich … but there is quite enough left to support those who incite the world to hatred of the rich, revenge, murder and arson…. This is a case in which the Redeemer’s words bore evil seed. More harm has been done, and more blood shed, on account of them than by the persecution oaf heretics and the burning of witches. They have always rendered the Church defenceless against all movements which aim at destroying human society. The church as an organization has certainly always stood on the side of those who tried to ward off communistic attack. But it … was continually disarmed by the words: “Blessed be ye poor; for yours is the Kingdom of God.”

    Ludwig von Mises (Socialism, p. 420)

    • Replies: @Svigor
  159. @JackOH

    ‘…Black folks have an out-group coolness factor that I think Norman Mailer, John (?) Podhoretz, and maybe a few other gutsy White guys have written about directly…’

    I almost wished I hadn’t noticed, but both the writers you mention are Jewish. Conversely, two other writers of the era come to mind: Tom Wolfe and Ken Kesey. In both cases, they focus on various white groups: hippies, drag racers, loggers…

    I believe both are gentile. I dunno how well this holds up as a general rule.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  160. @Colin Wright

    Kesey’s heroes were the sort of Irish-Americans that Jack Nicholson played-he played McMurphy in CUCKOO’S NEST.

  161. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @notanon

    So you think Communism is healthy?

    • “Not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them…and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.” Acts 4:32-35

    That’s the cultural blueprint of the Jew Testament.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
    , @notanon
  162. Anon[381] • Disclaimer says:

    The alt-right of pre-Charlottesville is gone. The sentiment will and has remained, but the street-demonstrating purely white nationalist part doxxed and lawsuited itself into oblivion on that day. The organizers and public supporters of what happened are all being sued, driven off the internet, suicided, and jailed, including Brad Griffin/Hunter Wallace over at OD. He has shut down his website in a desperate move to raise legal defense funds after laying low for months, hoping it would blow over.

    Brad Griffin was one of the primary instigators behind Charlottesville, in my opinion. He allowed Nazi imagery to be used on his website, which attracted the wrong kind of crowd to his demonstration (inbred trash). He additionally told his supporters to not be afraid of publicly outing themselves in demonstrations with him. Bad move Sherlock. His demonstrations were also pointless, like his dumb idea to march around Selma. What the hell is that going to accomplish?

    He was wrong on all counts. How many young men were tricked by this idiot and got doxxed and killed themselves as a result? I actually do feel sorry for some of the demonstrators. They were mislead by people who don’t know what they are doing.

    These people are all idiots and white trash. Good riddance, especially to the troglodyte organizers. There were far superior strategies that were suggested to them, but being poorly-educated morons, they ignored them. They and their supporters were warned what would happen if they publicly demonstrated. They didn’t listen. Is that kind of incompetence the basis for a political movement? I don’t think so.

    Example: one of the idiots involved with neckbeard Matt Heimbach sent a letter to the SPLC announcing his defeat after being attacked by Heimbach when he discovered his wife was having sex with the guy in a mobile home. Gross. Real leader material there.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @notanon
  163. @Anon

    If your job can be done by a jungle Indian who speaks not a word of English, chances are you do not have a great deal of power or influence.

    The so-called leaders of the Alt-Right are not self-made billionaires-they’re resume is not even as impressive as mine. Spencer was a loser and perpetual student. Milo lives at home with his Jewish mother and french kisses his boyfriend in public. Anglin is a hick from the middle of nowhere.

    These are not my idea of saviors of European civilization.

    Now compare that to the billions that Opran or Ellen can summon to push the homosexual and multi-cultural agenda-more than the NASA space program.

    • Replies: @notanon
  164. APilgrim says:
    @Anonymous

    The initial model of the 1st Century (Jewish) Christian Church of Jerusalem, was abandoned as quickly as the Mayflower Compact.

  165. notanon says:
    @Anonymous

    That’s the cultural blueprint of the Jew Testament.

    you’re being too obvious man

  166. notanon says:
    @Anon

    The alt-right of pre-Charlottesville is gone.

    it’s the other way round – the pre-Cville (cultural warfare) alt-right is winning, hence the attempt to shut down free speech on the internet

    (which is proving the alt-right’s narrative is the correct one)

    all Cville did was show alt-rightists they needed to be more stealth cos the legal system is rigged.

  167. notanon says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Now compare that to the billions that Opran or Ellen can summon to push the homosexual and multi-cultural agenda-more than the NASA space program.

    the banking mafia have a parasitic business model hence their need to buy up the media to stop anyone pointing this out.

    they get their media to promote identity politics as a deflection.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  168. @notanon

    “Identity Politics”

    These groups don’t really care about one another’s identity or behavior.

    Oprah, for example, did not express any admonishment in the George Michael interview when he described how male public toilets have degenerated into places where random men get their wiener sucked in public.

    Blacks do not care what gays do who do not care what Jews do who do not care if Mexicans take the jobs of poor rural whites at a poultry factory and Mexicans do not care if poor whites do crystal meth and on and on.

    There is no standard of civility.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  169. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Please share far and wide, since the video has only 117 views as of today…

    The Charlottesville Incident and the Court of Public Opinion
    117 views

    Occam’s Router
    Published on Feb 25, 2018
    Copyright Disclaimer – under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research.

    I must stress again, this is not meant to hold up Mr. Fields as any kind of hero. It is to demonstrate the importance of due process, and the guarantee all Americans have to a fair trial.

    I do not adhere to any alt right, white supremacist or white nationalist ideologies.
    But I do think I have demonstrated reasonable doubt for premeditated murder.

  170. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Just-released study on the demographics of the Alt Right:

    The survey included 3,038 non-Hispanic white respondents. Among these respondents, only a minority expressed high values on any of the above questions: about 28% expressed strong feelings of white identity; about 38% expressed strong feelings of white solidarity; and about 27% felt that whites suffer a meaningful amount of discrimination in American life. A much smaller minority, about 6% of respondents, expressed all three opinions. It is worth noting that a 2017Washington Post-ABC News poll estimated that about 10% of respondents supported the Alt-Right.
    [...]
    The lack of an obvious age gap is notable. The youngest cohort differs relatively little from the oldest. This suggests that the problem of white identity politics is not something that will be resolved by generational replacement. However, this also challenges the Alt-Right’s claim that the youngest whites are becoming increasingly receptive to their ideas.

    The Demography of the Alt-Right

    https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-demography-of-the-alt-right Archived link: http://archive.is/1nb5x

    http://www.unz.com/article/review-a-fair-hearing/#comment-2459208

  171. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    Oh sure, the account of Jesus humiliating the Rich Man was put into the Bible just so Christians could enjoy somebody being “wrekt,” even though there’s nothing actionable to learn from it for exactly 100% of materially rich Christians reading it. Because Schadenfreude is a virtue.

    The lesson, Jew, is that the answer to the question is, “whatever you can’t give up.”

  172. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    I’ve completely thrashed you on Scripture, now you’re quoting libertardians at me. Just go lick your wounds.

  173. @Crimson2

    Ah, yes, the magic “ain’t gonna happen” trump card.

    Might have been used in the early stages of any come-from-behind change in history. (Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire? Ain’t gonna happen! Independent USA and world turned upside down? Ain’t gonna happen! China a rip-roaring economic powerhouse? Ain’t gonna happen! Sweden a new Muslim homeland? Ain’t gonna happen!)

    Cultural and political movements start with a few “extremist” voices proposing stuff outside the Overton Window. Most fail to gather momentum and are ultimately recycled into scrap. A few pick up support, at first slowly and then all at once. And the folks who once sneered “ain’t gonna happen” are left wondering how it happened.

  174. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    And one day the Elders of Kobol will return to the Colonies, too.

  175. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    Jesus was pretty angry, Marx levels of angry. I don’t believe the meek shit either. You have to be flamboyant and entrain people in a hard cult to even be noticed in a place where strong religious orthodoxy is being enforced by Rabbi Management.

    But so what.

  176. Johann says:
    @FKA Max

    Euge Euge Professor Gottfried for your spot on analysis. I live in the sticks of South Lancaster Pa. I used to read his column in the Lancaste paper which provided a center right and center left op ed page until it was consolidated by LNP Corp a branch of the corporate Marxist American media which now only provides Washington Post/ New York Times INGSOC with a sprinkle of George Will type “conservatism”. Gottfried’s opinions are both erudite and inspiring.

  177. @Jeff Stryker

    Could this be civilizational disintegration? Or possibly, evolution? So, what’s next? Look into the heart of downtown Detroit? Or Chicago?
    Don’t think so. The electronic revolution is making it possible to do almost everything from the comfort of your own personal hilltop. But it will take time. Evolution is slow.

  178. Gottfried has an interesting talk on youtube, How the Left Conquered the Right, though I don’t agree with his slighting the social issues. I think modern mores are headed over the cliff and will suffer the fate of Soviet economics. I suspect that like most Jews Gottfried is pro-feminist and pro-gay at heart and has trouble imagining an educated person opposing those movements.
    But his argument plants the hope in us reactionaries that without government indoctrination and legal compulsions people will revert to “sexism” and “homophobia” because both are natural, being found all through history and all around the world, with only the minor exceptions.
    Just how equal are women today? We say we’re going to send women into combat but let’s see what happens when the corpses start coming home. Especially if we re-institute the draft. Would we draft women and send them into combat? I don’t see it.
    Gottfried makes a good point about immigration which I will rephrase: all these brown people are not very politically correct. They don’t lie awake at night worrying that somewhere someone is denying the Holocaust or making nasty jokes about gays. Personally I’d love to see Amsterdam overrun by Muslims but sadly the influx is over-stated.

  179. @Johnnie Walker Read

    That Posobiec and Robinson are pro-Israel is often pointed out by other Alt Right commentators. Obviously that lightens their burden as compared to someone like Anglin who has fled the country or even some mainstream figures who have dared to criticize Israel or its lobby and hurt their careers by doing so.

  180. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Blanket branding of Alt-Right as racism is nothing other than playing the Racist card, as is done, for example, with Holocaust Revisionists.

    It’s all hate.

    Right?

  181. Goblin says:

    The author is playing a cuckservative angle, trying to dodge accusations of racism instead of embracing them. Get real, Mr (((Gottfried))). Mainstream science is on our side, not yours. Open racism is increasing, as is anti-semitism. Because the Internet has been around a couple decades and is only starting to become more censored, readers have had more freedom than ever to understand the world around them. And guess what the result was: more racial realism(racism) and more ethnic realism(anti-semitism, doubt in assimilability of immigrants, etc).

    I do not ask or demand that you face this reality. You will resist the cognitive dissonance, and besides, you are of little importance now and less importance in the future. Your time is coming to a close, and the new generations of right-wing Westerners will be nothing like you. Young RWers are radicals, not conservatives. Your kind will be relegated to irrelevance. You are the fringe now. You are already being replaced.

  182. wraith67 says:

    It’s unfortunate that Richard Spencer coined the term Alt-Right – I expect this was mostly due to the popular misconception that National Socialists are of the Right, when in reality they may have only been to the right of full blown Communists. Spencer and his Stormer allies most assuredly line up with economic Socialists. The bulk of the Alt-Right are not Socialists, I think the only point of convergence between these two groups is the race realism angle and the value of Western Civ. Libertarians have similar issues, where they range from Democrats-that-hate-taxes to pure Anarchists and can’t seem to agree on much beyond smoking pot. The Alt-Right still needs to differentiate itself and coalesce into a more coherent movement. I suspect that identity politics and disastrous immigration policy might hurry that along more quickly than people think…history isn’t kind to multiculturalism, it’s always lead to war.

  183. nanaJ says:

    Charlottesville was staged! Another FALSE FLAG! I recognized a woman interviewed by Faith Goldy as the same woman who played the worried mother of a gay man who was interviewed twice on the night of another false flag in Orlando, Florida.

  184. Deschutes says:

    Is the alt-right fading away? No, obviously not–as we saw only too clearly last Saturday in Pittsburgh where Robert Bowers killed 11 Jews and seriously injured many more worshipping at a synagogue. Bowers words as he entered the synagogue? “All Jews must die”, before he proceeded to mow down his victims.

    This is your alt-right Unz.com readers! This guy is one of your own. I know it from reading the extreme anti-semitic vitriol in many of the posts on this website. You feed off each other’s hatreds of Jews, then some nutter goes apeshit and does this horrendous killing.

    Bowers had read that the Tree of Life synagogue was volunteering to help South American refugees, which he as a white nationalist did not approve of–so he decided to go and randomly kill worshippers in the synagogue who had nothing to do with it.

    I find it quite telling that this website Unz.com has not a single article about this historic massacre of 11 Jews by this alt-right white nationalist Bowers. It is in every other website, but not here? Why the silence? I call bullshit on that!

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