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There has been major pushback against a Texas state education official who said that if schools are adhering to a new state law that mandates teaching alternative points of view on controversial issues having a course and a book on the holocaust, for example, would suggest providing material that reflects other interpretations of that historical event. The comment came from a Texas school district administrator named Gina Peddy in the Carrollton Independent School District in Southlake, which is in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, who was in a training session explaining to teachers her directive regarding which books can be available in classroom libraries. She told teachers that if they have books about the Holocaust in their classrooms, they should also have books that offer “opposing” or “other” viewpoints on the subject.

Reportedly a staff member who was present secretly made an audio recording of the training session which was then shared with NBC News, which broke the story.

The Texas law was and is intended to lessen the impact of the current “woke” campaign by progressive educators to rewrite American and international history to reflect the dark side, notably by emphasizing issues like slavery and oppression of minorities. Texas legislators insist, not unreasonably, that presenting an essentially negative view of American history as envisioned by Critical Race Theory (CRT) must be balanced by having a curriculum that also includes discussion of the many positive achievements of the United States of America. In the recording, Peddy, the school district’s executive director of curriculum and instruction, told the teachers that the new law applies to any “widely debated and currently controversial” issues. She was quoted as saying “And make sure that if you have a book on the Holocaust, that you have one that has an opposing, that has other perspectives.”

Predictably, on such a hot wire issue Peddy has had little or no support from her peers either locally or in the education establishment. The school district Superintendent Lane Ledbetter posted on Facebook an “apology regarding the online article and news story.” He said Peddy’s comments were “in no way to convey that the Holocaust was anything less than a terrible event in history. Additionally, we recognize there are not two sides of the Holocaust. We also understand this bill does not require an opposing viewpoint on historical facts.”

Clay Robison, a spokesman for the Texas State Teachers Association, responded “We find it reprehensible for an educator to require a Holocaust denier to get equal treatment with the facts of history. That’s absurd. It’s worse than absurd. And this law does not require it.” Republican state Senator Bryan Hughes, who wrote the bill that became the law, denied that anyone should come up with alternative views on what he called matters of “good and evil” or to remove books that offer only one perspective on the Holocaust.

Jews in Peddy’s school district and elsewhere in both Texas and nationally have inevitably also risen to the bait, denouncing any attempt made to challenge what they view as an issue fundamental to their understanding of their place in the world and in history. One Jewish former student Jake Berman asserted that “The facts are that there are not two sides of the Holocaust. The Nazis systematically killed millions of people.”

Ledbetter, Robison and Hughes should perhaps consider that they are suggesting that their new law should only apply on “controversial” racial issues, not on other historical developments and it is curious that educated people should consider a multi-faceted transnational historical event that has inter alia a highly politicized context a “fact.” The holocaust narrative in and of itself is the creation of men and women after the fact with an agenda to justify the creation and support for the State of Israel and should be subject to the same inquiry as any other facet of the Second World War and what came after.

The tale of “the holocaust” is essentially a contrived bit of history that serves a political objective wrapped up in what purports to be a powerful statement regarding man’s inhumanity to man. Jewish groups generally speaking consider the standard narrative with its highly questionable six million dead, gas chambers, extermination camps, and soap made from body fat to be something like sacred ground, with its memorialization of the uniqueness of Jewish suffering. Serious scholars who have actually looked at the narrative and the numbers and sequences of events are not surprisingly skeptical of many of the details.

As a first step, it is helpful to look at controversial Professor Norman Finkelstein’s carefully documented book The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering. Finkelstein, to be sure, believes there was something like a genocide of European Jews and even lost some family members due to it. He does not, however, necessarily believe many of the details provided by the standard narrative and official promoters of that story to include the numerous holocaust museums. In his view, powerful interests have hijacked “the Holocaust,” and use it to further their own objectives. He wrote “Organized Jewry has exploited the Nazi holocaust to deflect criticism of Israel’s and its own indefensible policies. Nazi genocide has been used to justify criminal policies of the Israeli state and US support for these policies.”

And there is also a money angle, as there often is. Per Finkelstein, Jewish organizations in the US have also exploited the situation of the dwindling number of aging holocaust survivors to extort “staggering sums of money from the rest of the world. This is not done not for the benefit of needy survivors but for the financial advantage of these organizations.”

As taking courses in the holocaust are mandated in the public school systems of twenty states (and soon to be more due to pressure from local Jewish groups) and is used to validate the billions of US taxpayer dollars given annually to the state of Israel it would seem that supporters of the narrative should have the confidence as well as sufficient integrity to defend their product. But that is, of course, not the case. They would prefer to have their chosen narrative unchallenged, raising the usual claims of anti-Semitism and “holocaust denial” to silence critics. One of the “textbooks” frequently used in public schools that mandate holocaust education is Night by Elie Wiesel, whom Finkelstein has dubbed “the high huckster of the holocaust.” “Night” claims to be autobiographical but is full of errors in time and place. It is at least in part a work of fiction. Similarly, the “Diary of Anne Frank” was published after editing by her survivor father and parts of it have been challenged.

As a general rule, contentious issues where advocates attempt to silence opponents by claiming that what they are promoting is based on fact and cannot be challenged should be challenged. In Europe, powerful Jewish constituencies have even made it illegal to criticize or deny the holocaust narrative. In America, that day may soon be coming as Jewish groups increasingly seek to criminalize questioning of the factual basis of the holocaust as well as any criticism of Israel.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. Wally says:

    Read more on this and The Big Lie here:

    Texas schoolteacher: When teaching the “Holocaust” in school, provide “other perspectives”
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14218

    recommended:

    ‘Holocaust’ Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/HH-July2017-30secs

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Derer
  2. Ghali says:

    Very strange title. How can one question a Holohaux?

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  3. david s says:

    Brother Nathaniel covers the coming mandatory indoctrination of children into holocaust story with hundreds of prison camp pictures at the end depicting a different reality:



    Video Link

    • Thanks: John Wear, InnerCynic, Nancy
    • Replies: @Johan
    , @Rosette
  4. Questioning the unquestionable is tantamount to heresy. Evangelicals have been so cucked into accepting the narrative that they wouldn’t know different if it bit them on the ass.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  5. papers says:

    A very good rule of thumb when measuring Jewish influence over a nation is whether they have Holohoax laws designed to prevent objective fact-checking. I never paid much attention to the Holohoax because I did not understand how it is the central myth underpinning Jewish power. Whenever there is someone challenging ZOG, they can always return to mentioning the Holohoax.

    And as long as it remains off-limits to question, their power is secure. As for the history itself, it is actually quite childlike how easy it is to pick it apart. I think many powerful Jewish lobby groups even know this, which is why they are desperate to even prevent a discussion on it. If they had nothing to fear, they wouldn’t mind honest debate. But they know they will lose because the Holohoax narrative has more holes than Swiss cheese. Everything from the fact that the Auschwitz “death shower” rooms were in fact only designed with a wooden swivel door (so escape would have been trivial) on the original blueprint to the most macabre contraptions of a feverish Jewish mind (“masturbation machines to death”, LOL).

    Finally, if the Holohoax gets thoroughly debunked, then the credibility of these Jewish lobby groups will be zero, not just on historical debates but on *any* debate, and they know that too. If the Holohoax falls, the rest of the dominoes fall with it.

    • Agree: John Wear, P. Cleburne
  6. MrE3001 says:

    The entire world is under some level of control that traces directly back to the fake holocaust. If people knew that the jews were the ones actually running death camps, then satan would have to start from scratch, and israel would go the way of judea. (Funny how they use those interchangeably). Why do they make fake holocaust movies every two weeks while ignoring the real genocide atrocities? Duh. This is the keystone in the satanic worldview. It’s as important as tits on the baphomet. And if they make a few shekles off of a spielberg picture, so much the better.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
  7. anon[506] • Disclaimer says:

    there is a debate even among academic historians on intentionalism vs functionalism and the Historikerstreit.

    do schools have to teach about the jews’ genocide of the canaanites? the yezovhshchina? the khmer rouge? the great leap forward? all the mass murder phil’s beloved CIA has committed? etc.?

    the one question none ever ask or answer even at unz.com is…

    the answer is that powerful minorities are resented and for good reason especially when those minorities are ethnocentric.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @bike-anarkist
  8. Mr. Giraldi has a great many things right in this essay. The Zionists of the pissant state have turned WW2 into an event which is All About Them, and the death of nobody else matters at all.

    But he edges into a territory where he makes accusations against others which apply equally well to himself.

    ….it would seem that supporters of the narrative should have the confidence as well as sufficient integrity to defend their product.

    Ok, you’ve written this: “…the standard narrative with its highly questionable six million dead, gas chambers, extermination camps, and soap made from body fat to be something like sacred ground…”

    “Highly Questionable”

    Defend those statements. The “soap from body fat” may not be much trouble. Ditto for the Six Million. It may have been 4.2, or 7.6, or something in-between. Pre-war population figures were mighty iffy, and so were post-war ones given all the Nazi-caused chaos in Europe. But I want to see your sources for the “highly questionable” gas chambers and extermination camps.

    If they’re from people who adored Hitler the same way certain Americans loved GWB or currently swoon for DJT, I’m going to have some questions of my own about your motives and methods.

  9. What are they afraid of? Even schoolkids could tear the holocaust deniers to pieces. No gas chambers? Here are five of them. No written orders? Here’s a vid of Hitler telling the Germans to kill all the Jews, or at least 6,000,000 of them. Let the children work through it and prove to themselves the reality of the holocaust.
    I do think that younger children should be protected from the sheer nastiness of the story.

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
    , @HeebHunter
    , @fnn
  10. Everything is up for debate no matter how sacred, be it Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or Judaism.

    I can’t understand this easy scapegoating of jews, or any other religious or cultural belief, what you have to question is the pyramid system of power that allow a few…criminals, who follow the Jewish, Muslim, Christian or any other faith to rule us.

    Until we pull down the structure that denies us, the Great unwashed, a seat at the table, a real say in our community…our countries then we are just corn in a field blown one way then another.

    The jews are no better or worse than any other group, many have fought for America and that makes them a valuable member, never confuse criminals with citizens, no matter what belief they wear.

    • Replies: @ld
    , @anon
  11. “Rule for Thee, but not for Me”

    Same as it ever was with these people. That old saying about look at who you cannot criticize to know who rules over you has never been more true than today. And the Tribals are at the top of the food chain for that type of behavior.

  12. Dube says:

    Search the state Education Codes, particularly for the term, “accuracy.” Here’s a California instance:

    60045. (a) All instructional materials adopted by any governing
    board for use in the schools shall be, to the satisfaction of the
    governing board, accurate, objective, and current and suited to the
    needs and comprehension of pupils at their respective grade levels.

    What is accuracy? We don’t always know, but sometimes inaccuracy can be demonstrated. Careful critical procedure can and should diminish extravagant error.

  13. LarryS says:

    Try telling a “normie” that WW2 was not about saving the Jews.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  14. Z-man says:

    It is courageous of you Phil Giraldi to write this article. You will now be vilified by the holocaust industrial complex and forever be tainted as a holocaust ‘denier’ on Wikipedia and the rest of the internet. However, would you have written this fine article 10, even 5 years ago? The obvious answer is no but this has good and bad connotations.
    You couldn’t have written this article 10 years ago because of the great damage that would have been done to your career/life. I understand this as I was a government employee for over 30 years. After I left the government I felt more liberated in expressing my opinions and following the truth.
    The real good to this piece is that questioning the holo***x is not taboo anymore and that hopefully the tide is turning against this exaggeration of that event. An exaggeration that World Jewry used to help create the Zionist Entity and that further enriched themselves in The West.

    PS. The former Jewish student in that clip, Berman, certainly had his talking points all prepared. He covered his bases by mentioning the slave trade where white Europeans were the evil doers. He forgot to mention his landsmen who were the main merchants of slavery. A slick presentation meant to convolute the subject at hand.

  15. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    “there are not two sides of the Holocaust.“
    “We find it reprehensible for an educator to require a Holocaust denier”
    “denied that anyone should come up with alternative views on what he called matters of ‘good and evil’
    “The facts are that there are not two sides of the Holocaust.’
    The holocaust narrative in and of itself is the creation of men and women
    …justify the creation and support for the State of Israel
    …the uniqueness of Jewish suffering
    …exploited the Nazi holocaust to deflect criticism of Israel and its own indefensible policies
    …also a money angle
    …courses in the holocaust are mandated

    If the Holocaust is a settled event, why forbid full discussions? Do Zionist lose their stool when folks hold conferences on Bigfoot, the Earth being flat, or the moon being made of green cheese.

    The Tribe is hiding something and Chosenoses know it.

    • Agree: John Wear
  16. anon[264] • Disclaimer says:

    ” powerful interests have hijacked “the Holocaust,” and use it to further their own objectives. ”

    what has always bother me about such a statement is that no-one names the specifics of the so-called powerful interest .. yes the interest are private, but the powerful interest involved are not even political or religious, they are economic. The Holocaust covers up the economic interest.

    The economic interest seek to use the Holocaust fable to “undermine traditional political powers” and to allow the various private parties they represent to interpose their will between the relations of the official nation state and the will of the people governed by that nation state.

    “He wrote “Organized Jewry has exploited the Nazi holocaust to deflect criticism of Israel’s and its own indefensible policies.

    Hiding access to the history of projects that are designed to allow a few to control the wealth and behavior of persons in the entire world is an important need of the Oligarch. The Holocaust propaganda serves, in large measure, that purpose. The Holocaust project is designed to hide investigation into the details of projects like “Take the Oil from the Ottoman” Project, which began in Basil, Switzerland 1897 and which lead to the division of the Ottoman spoils (Dykes-Picot treaty https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-sykes-picot-agreement-1916).

    Tracking the history of the “take the oil from the Ottoman” project would lead investigators to uncover the cabal and to identify its members, that is those who were the powerful who made the Bolshevik Revolution against the Russian Christian Czarist Nation successful. It would lead investigators to discover how private parties produced and globally differentiated the narratives that produced the propaganda which poisoned world opinion against the open, competitively aggressive successes of the Christian German nation State (Russia and China and Iran are taking WWI Germany’s place in the new hate propaganda).

    Deep investigation would lead investigators to discover how most of the political systems of the western controlled nation states, have been invaded and infiltrated by agents of the private party economic project planners. Deep inspection into the Holocaust propaganda would lead investigators to uncover the reason for the destruction of as much of Europe and Japan as could be accomplished by the planners who played both sides against the middle. Newer projects include the Nixon to Johnson project, the JFK project, the Viet Nam Project, the Korean War project, the “digital-platform” project, the Iraq project, the 9/11 project, the IOT/fiveG project.. and the covid-19 project. These projects all involve private (Cabal) economic use of the nation state to eliminate existing or would be competition. These projects are designed to abuse, deceive or use those who are the governed.

    It is the activities and methods of the members of the groups that plan these projects that the Holocaust narrative and the continuous flood of supporting propaganda is meant to cover up. Yes, it is true the advantage of conducting criminal activities under cover of being a nation state is that it allows those in charge a claim that they have the authority to do criminal things with impunity. This claim arises because the owners of the nation state system assert that each of its member nation states should enjoy sovereign immunity; but the people in the world, those who are nation state imprisoned governed, have not yet spoken on whether or not actors in the state should enjoy sovereign immunity. .

  17. cohen says:

    Back in 90s I worked in as consultant in Katowice,Poland. we used to drive by Auschwitz regularly. In those days Spielberg was filming Schindler’s List. I had two observations. The facility is not that big area wise as they show in the movies (subjective on my part). And the the chimneys in the barracks were awfully small and not tall enough. Hard to imagine so burn 4million Jews plus gypsies in such small chimneys without any fans (induced or forced) and supply of fuel.
    This was the time I believed Ann Franks story (through Hollywood of course), Judgement at Nuremberg, and Sophie’s Choice kind of movies. This all changed later with time and availability of information thru internet.
    Those were the days when one can watch David Irvin’s work on Youtube and at several other site without. For some reasons I downloaded his work just for the heck of it. turned out to be a smart move because it is censored on you tube and available on Bitchute.com

    While I read UNZ columns regularly I came across the censorship of Bitchute material on the site while the site promoting/preaching free and open dialogue. To some degree it is true but not completely. . Lot of censored material could be found on Bitchute.com

    David Irving did an excellent job in providing the other side of the coin when it comes to WWII and Holohaux. Through David Irving I leaned about a place called Torpedo Factory in Alexandria, VA (old town or oldest town in VA). Which became a storage for captured German Documents. The German lady who married to an American Colonel was in charge of the store room. One of my friend from old town took care of the German lady in her old age (she passed away a few years ago). According to him she did not wanted to talk about Germany during WWII.

    Now several miniature holohoax museums are mushrooming all over globe places like Macedonia, UAE (and more to come on the world stage) at US tax payers’ expense. Some of the places under considerations, North and south pols and on Moon.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @anonymous
  18. Anything that is true should be able to stand up to scrutiny. If scrutiny is banned and the demand is made that it must be taken on faith, then it’s only reasonable to surmise that the truthfulness of the subject is not unquestionably established, and that the people who insist on shielding the topic from scrutiny are afraid that it will be proved to be not true.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @anon
  19. borfwink says:

    Fake story #1: Soap can be made from fat and lye. How many fat people were there in Auschwitz?

    Fake story #2: Pelts can be made into lampshades. Humans don’t have pelts. Perhaps a trained plastic surgeon could graft human skin onto a lampshade frame. Were Germany’s skilled surgeons playing around with arts and crafts in a camp out in the boonies, or were they in hospitals working to mend wounded soldiers?

    Fake story #3: America should have bombed Auschwitz to stop the killing. Auschwitz is 300 miles east of Berlin. That’s a round trip of 600 miles. Given that the 8th Air Force was getting beat in 1943, and only managed to bomb Berlin in February 1944, when did it become feasible for American bombers, and their fighter escorts, to make it all the way to Auschwitz and back? And exactly what would it have accomplished anyway? Break some rail lines that would be repaired in three days? Blow up some barracks? Jews would be then be complaining about us killing them helplessly in their beds.

    Fake story #4: America turned away Jewish refugees before the war. According to Sir Martin Gilbert in the Atlas of Jewish History, the U.S. took in six out of seven of the Jews who left Nazi Germany, a total of 240,000 people. 900 people on the ship St Louis were refused entry and were taken in by France, Britain, and Belgium instead. Jewish ingratitude stinks.

    These are just four widely circulated nonsensical holocaust stories that I can refute with my own limited resources. #3 and #4 are part of the White People Suck campaign. Reason dictates that I ought be doubtful of much else.

  20. Do the schools teach bout the Deir Yassin massacre? Perhaps schools don’t want to bother anyone with the horrors of how children were slaughtered by chews back in 1948…

    The good news? The kriminal kike who was supposedly in command during the massacre died a few days ago:

    https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/israeli-commander-deir-yassin-massacre-dies-age-94

    Schlomo went straight to hell to meet up with the father of lies as he waved a flag which features the star of Moloch.

    oh goy!

  21. Giraldi is soft-peddling the issue. There are many, solid, scientific reasons why the gas chambers cannot have worked as claimed, and why the Jewish death toll was far below 6 million. Best estimates put the figure at around 500,000 — tragic, but a mere footnote in the history of WW2. There is undoubtedly an intelligent and well-argued “other side” to the Big H, one which is far more rational and logical than the fantasy peddled in schools and media. See Thomas Dalton’s outstanding book “Debating the Holocaust”, or any of the books by Germar Rudolf, for starters.

    • Replies: @HbutnotG
  22. mcohen says:

    The holocaust happened,not once but many times in jewish history.
    Whether it be 6 million or 1 million,to try and claim it never happened is a lie.
    The question I have to all deniers.If it was not 6 million then you have proof of how many actually perished
    So how many Jews did die in the holocaust?Or is this pathetic story and many like it just another ploy to bash Israel.

    Come on wally.get in here and tell us

  23. “Alternative points of view” is one thing and “fact” is another thing. History is made of facts, and the task of scientists is to find out what actually happened and prove it. If some people don’t like what actually happened, they are not going to accept it – but that’s not what the science of history deals with, and someone’s point of view is not science at all. WW2 is a well documented event. This is not Alexander’s atrocities on his way to India (and back). The only problem is only talking about Jewish victims, and ignoring all the rest, now that’s where Jewish ‘exceptionality’ starts to show, and that is disgusting.

  24. PG, it is one thing to criticise the Holocaust industry for its misuse of a tragedy, and perhaps to find it particularly distasteful that legal shysters advertise to get remote descendants of Holocaust survivors to sue for a bit of European taxpayers’ money, but to deny that leading Nazis resorted to exterminating Jews (also gypsies, and Slavs not quite as enthusiastically) when other means of getting rid of them failed – and that many Germans, Latvian, Lithuanian and others were happy to go along with it – is quite obtuse. Sensible people in sensible countries don’t have too much problem speaking the truth. As I have quoted more than once on UR, one of out best ABC presenter interviewers, Geraldine Doogue, was able to give the Holocaust death toll as 4.5 to 6 million without objection, retraction or apology.

    • Disagree: Badger Down
    • LOL: rufus clyde
  25. Giraldi shills for fascistic Iranian Islamo-supremacy

    Finkelstein shills for Marxism

    Desperate attention-seekers, employing vile revisionism and blood libels

  26. Hans says:

    “These Holocaust deniers are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures.” – Steven Some, Chairman of New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education, (printed in the Newark Star-Ledger, Oct 23, 1996, p 15.)

    “Care must be taken not to give a platform for deniers…or seek to disprove the denier’s position through normal historical debate and rational argument.” – “Guidelines for Teaching about the Holocaust” at the Stockholm International Forum, 2000

    On Feb. 29, 1944 the British Ministry of Information sent the following note to British clergy and the BBC:

    …We must, therefore, take into account how the Red Army will certainly behave when it overruns Central Europe. Unless precautions are taken, the obviously inevitable horrors which will result will throw an undue strain on public opinion in this country.

    Experience has shown that the best distraction is atrocity propaganda directed against the enemy. Unfortunately the public is no longer so susceptible as in the days of “Corpse Factory,” the Mutilated Belgian Babies,” and the “Crucified Canadians.”

    Your cooperation is therefore earnestly sought to distract public attention from the doings of the Red Army by your wholehearted support of various charges against the Germans and Japanese which have been and will be put into circulation by the Ministry.

    Your expression of belief in such may convince others.

    I am, sir, Your obedient servant,
    (signed) H. Hewet, Assistant Secretary

    (Rozek, Edward, Allied Wartime Diplomacy: A Pattern in Poland, John Wiley & Sons, NY. pp. 209-210)

    The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed.” – Rep. Lawrence H. Smith, Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

  27. gotmituns says:

    Why Not Question “the Holocaust” in Schools?
    ——————————————————

    When I was a boy a teacher told us the dumbest question in the world is the one not asked. I never forgot that.

  28. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    “The holocaust narrative in and of itself is the creation of men and women after the fact with an agenda to justify the creation and support for the State of Israel and should be subject to the same inquiry as any other facet of the Second World War and what came after.”

    Indeed! And the exhaustive inquiry this event has been subjected to so far has revealed nothing more than a dark bottomless pit filled with endless lies and deranged horror fantasies. If it is to be studied in school it should be the centerpiece for a course titled The Creation And Use Of Propaganda.

    Excellent article, Mr. Giraldi.

  29. Additionally, we recognize there are not two sides of the Holocaust.

    False dichotomy.

    Deniers are wrong but so are Holo-sacralists.

    Instead providing the arguments of the Deniers, they should provide updates and revisions, as with all other topics.

    It’s like various views of communist history could be provided without giving voice to fans of the Khmer Rouge.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  30. As long as the Zionists control the media (megaphone), the politicians (ADL lobby), the money supply (Rothchild, et all), and countless other worldwide institutions, the “Holo-hoax” will live long and prosper in the all-to-gullible minds of the sheepeople.

    • Replies: @Fatima1917
  31. VICB3 says:

    Any good police detective automatically looks for inconsistencies in witness statements. If there are enough inconsistencies, the conclusion is that the witness is lying and that the proffered narrative is, at best, larded with falsehoods and inventions.

    In any debate, when the ad hominum attacks begin, it’s safe to conclude that the attacker has either no factual basis for his assertions or that they are extremely shaky.

    The problem with the Holocaust Narrative is that there are too may inconsistencies in the story. And if anyone dares to point out those inconsistencies, then they are subject to personal attacks, and even professional and financial ruin.

    Debate is not allowed.

    Further, any historian or student of history knows that history is always gray. Always. And yet the whole Holocaust Narrative is invariable rendered in black and white. Always.

    Taken together, these call the whole approved narrative into question.

    To clarify, that’s not the same thing as saying that you’d want to be Jewish and in Europe during World War II. Hell, you wouldn’t have wanted to be in Europe, period.*

    But the story remains questionable. And some one is lying.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    *Argentina probably would have been a pretty good bolt hole. And Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland and Turkey all had the good sense, albeit being uncomfortably close to the action.

  32. Oh, c’mon, really? “Highly questionable 6 million dead”? Questionable?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Badger Down
  33. Eileen says:

    Very few people (for obvious reasons!) now know that for quite a long time before WWI (and during the war itself) most Jewish political activists pinned their hopes for the creation of a Jewish “homeland” on … Germany!

    120 years ago, the Zionist colonization of Palestine was still Plan B. What was then seen as being a more realistic project was the creation of “Judeo-Polonia” — a new buffer state that would be carved out of “inevitable” German territorial gains in Eastern Europe following a future military conflict with Russia.

    By September 1914, all the details had been worked out by a joint German-Jewish Committee — the Deutsches Komitee zur Befreiung der Russischen Juden — working in liaison with the German ministry for foreign affairs. The Committee also regularly warned about the dangers posed by Polish attempts to bring about the restoration of the Polish State, which over a century earlier had been partitioned by Prussia, Austria and Russia.

    Judeo-Polonia would be a German protectorate (ruled by a German prince) and — given that it would be inhabited by the 6 million Jews of that part of the world — would, of course, be conveniently run by German and/or Yiddish-speaking Jews. The population of Judeo-Polonia would also comprise 8 million Poles, 2 million Germans, 6 million Ukrainians, 4 million Byelorussians and 4 million assorted Lithuanians and Latvians. Its capital would be the city of Lublin, which is now in eastern Poland.

    Unfortunately — notwithstanding the support that she had received from worldwide Jewry — Germany lost the war and — worse still — in 1920 the Red Army (Plan C) failed to defeat the army of the newly resurrected Polish Republic, whose government was at that time regularly being accused of tolerating and/or organizing anti-Jewish pogroms (for which, as the American ambassador in Warsaw Hugh Simons Gibson confirmed, there was actually no evidence at all).

    Although Jewish demands for the creation of autonomous Jewish districts (i.e. ghettos) in every Polish town were rejected by the Polish parliament in the same year (1920), Polish citizenship was granted (in 1926) to the 600 000 illegal Jewish immigrants who had fled the new Workers’ Paradise of Soviet Russia.

    Between the two World Wars, most (but not all) Jewish political activists in Poland still dreamt of setting up some kind of Jewish homeland in the eastern part of the country and so — remembering the Judeo-Polonia project — they continued to place their hopes in Germany. Even the Polish Communist Party (most of whose members happened to be Jews) then supported German territorial claims against Poland!

    This, of course, would explain the willingness of Jewish elites to co-operate with the Nazi German invaders of Poland in 1939. By contrast, Polish (i.e. Christian) elites consistently refused to collaborate with the Germans and Russians who had invaded and re-partitioned their country, preferring instead to set up a government-in-exile and an extensive Resistance movement (known as the Home Army).

    Hitler cleverly lulled the vigilance of the Jews by granting them (a cruel parody of) the 400 “autonomous Jewish districts” that the Poles had refused them in 1920. In September 1939, crowds of Jews actually came out into the streets of various Polish towns in order to welcome the victorious German troops, while in that part of Poland which had been invaded and occupied by the Soviets they also actively collaborated with Stalin”s secret police (on a truly massive scale).

    Initially, the Nazi plan — dropped in the second half of 1941 — was to gradually herd all the Jews of Europe into one part of eastern Poland, thus creating a Jewish region that might eventually become some kind of Jewish entity. At that time — i.e. during the first half of the war (before Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union) — most of the people who were being butchered in Poland were not Jews, but Poles. If they were very rich, Jews were then more likely to be murdered by their fellow Jews in the ghettos (often with the connivance of the Jewish ghetto police).

    Writing in Britain in 1940, the Jewish political activist Jabotinsky saw this concentration of Jews in the Lublin region as a great opportunity for a future Jewish homeland once Germany had been defeated. Indeed, maps of the future Jewish “Lublinland” began to appear in various other publications of the time.

    It was only in the middle of WWII that Hitler suddenly decided on the mass extermination of his Jewish subjects and it was only then that the leaders of Poland’s Jews finally realized that there was going to be no Judeopolonia after all. Most of the leaders of the Jewish ghettos (who had earlier steadfastly refused to cooperate with the Polish Resistance) then committed suicide, seeing that the long-standing loyalty of the greater part of European Jewry towards the German cause had been unrequited.

    One explanation for Hitler’s callous decision could be that — having observed the behaviour of many Jews in that part of Poland which had been occupied by the Soviets in 1939 — he wrote them all off as incorrigible communist agents and fifth-columnists. However, Feliks Koneczny — a Polish historian who experienced the German occupation at first hand — offered a simpler explanation: writing in 1942, he argued that the Germans were so convinced that they had finally gained eternal possession of all Polish lands that they simply no longer saw any need to accept the Jewish offer of collaboration, and so proceeded with the next stage of their plan for them. Poles were next on the list, of course, though Polish elites in both occupied zones had already been decimated at the very beginning of the war.

    During the first half of the twentieth century, Jewish propaganda in Europe and America consistently denigrated all things Polish (even in Hollywood films produced during WWII!), mainly in order to further the cause of the Judeo-Polonia project. Since the early 1970s it has been doing exactly the same thing — but this time in order to lend credibility to the new “Holocaust” narrative, which would quite simply collapse if the American public ever found out what really happened in Poland during the Second World War.

    • Disagree: Badger Down
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Anon
  34. black dog says:

    In history, everything can be questioned. Nothing should be exempt from that.

  35. Renoman says:

    Risky business, they won’t like this one bit.

  36. Petermx says:

    Thank you Mr. Giraldi. It is nice to see this from someone of your stature. And thank you to Mr. Unz for publishing this on his important website.

    “Serious scholars who have actually looked at the narrative and the numbers and sequences of events are not surprisingly skeptical of many of the details.” Some have gone far further than being skeptical.
    Holocaust revisionists include many scholars, scientists and one of the most important historians of the 20th century. Mainstream holocaust historians have no engineers or scientists in their ranks to defend their claims now that they have been debunked. Chemist Germar Rudolph, Professor Arthur Butz, engineer Fred Leuchter (once the leading expert in the US on gas chamber technology, with the US having the death penalty by gas), engineer Fritz Berg have all done extensive research debunking claims central to the phony holocaust narrative. There are many others, historians, lawyers and other highly educated people, some in leading positions that state(d) the holocaust did not happen. That is why “democratic” Europe made it illegal to counter the holocaust propagandists.

    • Agree: mark green
  37. Angharad says:

    The tyranny of jews MUST be challenged. Their Great Hoax is the “narrative” they use to destroy EVERYTHING else.

  38. Tucker says:

    ““Organized Jewry has exploited the Nazi holocaust to deflect criticism of Israel’s and its own indefensible policies. Nazi genocide has been used to justify criminal policies of the Israeli state and US support for these policies.”

    They’ve also used it as a brainwashing weapon against every historical White European nation, and particularly so against the majority White Founding Stock of the United States wherein these jewish supremacists have been maliciously waging a war of racial, cultural and demographic replacement of the White American majority – deliberately working to turn Whites into a hated and despised minority inside their own nation, and any White American who protests what they are doing – the first thing these evil white race hating jewish supremacists do is to pull out their ‘Holocaust’ card and say that justifies the crime they are committing against White European people and that same diabolically evil argument is used against every historical White nation on Earth.

    It is perfectly clear to anyone with a brain bigger than a marble that International jewry is waging a global wide war against White Europeans and are working to turn Whites into minorities inside every White nation., thereby subjugating Whites to being permanently ruled over by jewish elites and non-whites who are not bashful about screaming how much they hate the White race.

    • Agree: John Wear
  39. @Badger Down

    Here’s a vid of Hitler telling the Germans to kill all the Jews

    While you are looking for that link…

  40. JackOH says:

    Phil, thanks.

    There’s no denying the Nuremberg Laws or the expropriation and expulsion of Jews in Nazi Germany.
    Very bad business against innocent Jews by the Hitler-huggers. But, that stuff about gas chambers and all seem very questionable. Long story short: Jews in my area have told me point-blank the Holocaust mythos was and is a cover story to gain support for a Jewish homeland in the Middle East.

  41. Biff says:
    @cohen

    And the the chimneys in the barracks were awfully small and not tall enough. Hard to imagine so burn 4million Jews plus gypsies in such small chimneys without any fans (induced or forced) and supply of fuel.

    Try this movie for a mind blower

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0192335/

    Transcript:

    https://www.errolmorris.com/film/mrd_transcript.html

  42. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:
    @flyingputer

    Well let’s see if I can help. They were claiming 6 million since the Nuremberg farce, with Auschwitz recognized as ground zero for the industrial extermination of Jews. Then in 1989, they quietly took down the official plaque at Auschwitz that said ‘4 million’ killed there and replaced it with a plaque that said ‘1 million’.

    Basic math: 6 million minus 3 million equals 3 million. And that’s just for starters. Subsequent documentation (especially from the Red Cross and German documents now archived in Russia) has brought that 3 million number down significantly–into the thousands.

    I also suggest viewing (Jewish) David Cole’s interview with the administrator of Auschwitz who admits on camera that the so-called gas chamber there was in fact built after the war for display purposes.

    The ‘6 million’ is a demonstrable lie. Always has been.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
    • Thanks: true.enough
  43. Stones says:
    @mcohen

    The International Red Cross had access to those camps. From memory, the number of deaths from all causes in all of the camps from their careful record keeping was about 280,000. About 40% of the interns were jews. So that’s 112K jews. Not quite 6 million, but close.

    • Replies: @beavertales
  44. The holocaust legend is the most emotional and hence the most useful component of the relentless demonization of German National Socialism. It works because Jews occupy a bizarrely outsized place in western imagination, due to the hateful role they were assigned in the mythology of Christianity, as the assassins of god himself. But wars are fought over rivalries among competing national elites. Fearful of her economic power, Britain attacked Germany in the Great War but her triumph was short-lived. Germany rebounded in a generation, stronger than ever, while Britain became the debt-slave of the United States. The New Germany had to be crushed, because the success of her authoritarian, nationalist socialism implicitly committed heresy against the west’s primary political illusion, that capitalism and democracy are compatible. This was intolerable to those in our country who have used the illusions of democracy to such great personal profit. It’s not hard to see how western imperialists were so terrified of the German Revolution that they made common cause with their mortal enemy, the Soviet Union, to erase this dangerous threat to their power. But even outnumbered by more than fifteen to one by her enemies, Germany’s fiercely aggressive defense triggered the collapse of the French and British empires, which had slaughtered, exploited and enslaved hundreds of millions in the Third World, and very nearly wiped Stalin’s terrorist regime clean off the map.

    In 1913, on the 25th anniversary of his reign, Kaisar Bill was hailed as “the prince of peace”; one year later he was the demonic enemy of civilization. In 1938 Hitler was Time magazine’s man of the year; one year later he was the demonic enemy of civilization. While we are allowed to look more objectively at WWI now, it is still doubleplus ungood thoughcrime to dare point out the same pattern in WWII. For Americans, the military-industrial complex and the propaganda machine that finally undid our republic were created to fight and justify “the good war,” and that myth must be defended at all costs. The interests of our rulers today happen to dovetail with the interests of modern Zionists (their predecessors had surprisingly harmonious relations with the German government) and so the tale grows in the telling with every passing year.

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC, mark green
    • Thanks: true.enough, Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  45. @Badger Down

    Here’s a vid of Hitler telling the Germans to kill all the Jews, or at least 6,000,000 of them

    >Not even one link provided
    >Not even one snark

    Why are hoaxers so pathetic?

    Also, your granddaddy was a piece of shit and cheers for the coming hordes of spics and niggers who will slit your throat, scum.

  46. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    Whether it be 6 million or 1 million,to try and claim it never happened is a lie.
    The question I have to all deniers.If it was not 6 million then you have proof of how many actually perished

    About 30 years ago I was watching a documentary on WWII which included a clip of a contemporaneous U.S. Army film on the liberation of the concentration camps with the narrator saying as many as 2 million were killed in the camps. But this could have been merely a preliminary guesstimate.

  47. BorisMay says:

    The whole of the Diary of Ann Frank was written in biro, which was not available in Holland until 1947.

    Consequently the Diary of Ann Frank is a forgery.

    And the Holocaust 6 million never existed since in 1939 the Jewish Chronicle stated the world population of Jews was 15 million and in 1946 it claimed that population had increased to 15,500,000.

    Anyway…you are losing a war and you think you can win it by diverting resources to kill 6 million Jews that never existed.

    Only a Jew would find logic in this ridiculous scenario. And only a goy idiot who loves money would agree.

    Anyone to believes the Holocaust myth is dead from the neck up.

    • Replies: @HbutnotG
    , @Francis Miville
  48. Ocko says:
    @mcohen

    The accuser has the burden of proof.
    The defendant doesn’t need to proof anything

  49. Teaching history is actually teaching propaganda since history is just aged propaganda. History is almost always written by the victorious side in any conflict and history is almost always about conflict.

    Who in his right mind can trust what a history book says? Parents should be asking what purpose is served in teaching propaganda and get it eliminated in favor of more science and math that’s actually useful to anyone that wants to contribute to society or their own personal welfare.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @anonymous
  50. Rich says:

    It’s all very simple, if the Holocaust were a historical fact, there would be no need to have laws restricting debate about it. There are no laws restricting debate on how many died in the Potato Famine, we can argue the number of dead in the Spanish American War any time we want. We can even argue the number of dead Soviets or Poles in WW2, but laws that prevent debating the number and method of death of various ethnic Jews in WW2 is forbidden? Obviously a false story.

    • Replies: @Reality Cheque
  51. ” “We find it reprehensible for an educator to require a Holocaust denier to get equal treatment with the facts of history.”

    But they are not facts. If the holocaust could be unequivocally proven, then yes, they would be facts. They are not facts. The only fact is that there are so many inconsistencies with genuine scientific rebuttel to the claimed “facts”

  52. Katrinka says:
    @mcohen

    It is the responsibility of the prosecutor to provide the evidence. It is impossible to defend with evidence against an event that never happened.

    • Agree: Stones
  53. bj0311 says:

    Read David Cole, he is exactly right about how the left has a goal and plan to achieve it while the right is clueless and reactionary (still). Why are normal people so stupid they cannot see this?

    https://www.takimag.com/article/both-sides-now-in-the-key-of-auschwitz/

  54. BL says:

    Why Not Question “the Holocaust” in Schools?

    Children shouldn’t be taught the Holocaust at all. First, their valuable time is being squandered on adult subjects before most of them are taught the basics and how to think and reason.

    This Texas set-piece is a suspiciously well-timed straw man. It elides over what schools should be teaching. It introduces “controversy” to go from bad to worse in terms of the curricula.

    Schools have become places of predation upon children. Delivering psychic pain and worse because we’ve failed in the most elemental way — ensuring that those with issues aren’t let anywhere near the schoolhouse.

    • Agree: Right_On
    • Replies: @anonymous
  55. Z-man says:
    @mcohen

    The ‘six million’ figure was used by Zionists and The International Jew in newspaper bulletins & articles way before WWII (1918-38). Look it up Bentzion. It wasn’t used again until way after WWII. In the 1960’s, after the movie ‘Judgement at Nuremburg’ was of course praised as being not only being the greatest movie ever made but sacrosanct. The Cabal was on a roll.

    The question I have to all deniers.If it was not 6 million then you have proof of how many actually perished

    Do you? Has anybody from your race of liars and manipulators given us 6 Million names, 3 Million even say 1 Million? No.
    Statistically, as the great Douglas Reed said (and got him exiled to Rhodesia), the Jews died in rough proportion to all other civilians so the number is closer to half a million, 495,985 in sales terms. (Grin)
    This doesn’t count the number of Jews who fought the Germans in battle, were they with the Russian or other organized army/resistance group. Now I know that the thinnest book ever written is the one about Jewish war heroes, but ya gotta think some died with their Slavic hosts in combating the German war machine.

  56. Dr. X says:

    The Holocaust narrative is sacrosanct in the U.S. not only because of the power of the Jewish lobby and the Israeli lobby, but also because it is used to justify American involvement and American war crimes in World War II.

    In late 1941, prior to Pearl Harbor, American public opinion was firmly against getting involved in the war, which had been going on for over two years. The war was correctly seen as a fight between National Socialists, Soviet communists, and British imperialists.

    Elites like FDR sought to get us involved, but had no pretext to do so until Dec. 7, 1941.

    The unquestionable facts of the war are 1) that we allied ourselves with the communist Soviet Union of Josef Stalin 2) we barbecued hundreds of thousands of German women and children in our campaign of carpet-bombing a country that had no ability or desire to invade or conquer us, and 3) we conquered and occupied half of Germany and garrisoned troops there for the next 75 years, creating an American empire within the framework of the decaying British empire.

    The Holocaust Narrative provides convenient justification for these actions. If the “ebil Not-zees” were “gassing Jews,” then of course it was good and just and right and holy for America to burn German kindergarteners and grandmothers to death in Dresden… and of course it was justifiable for our Soviet allies to gang-rape hundreds of thousands of German women…. right?

    • Thanks: Etruscan Film Star
    • Replies: @John Wear
  57. DanFromCT says:
    @MrE3001

    Exactly, if any group has run death camps, it’s the Jews, as well as the abattoirs of unspeakable horrors knee deep in human gore run by their Cheka. Naturally, they turn the truth on its head and claim they were the victims of the crimes against humanity they themselves inflicted on others.

    Even granting the absurd 6 million Holohoax number derived from Jewish mysticism, the fact that Jews were the vanguard of communism in Russia and the Ukraine, of the Donmeh in Turkey, and are today the butchers of the Palestinians in Palestine, that makes Jews, and by an order of magnitude, the worst mass murderers in the history of Western Civilization.

    It’s also bizarre they get away with the anti-Semitism canard used against anyone they hate. The Jews claim that anti-Semitism can only arise in irrational hatred and racism, which can only be true if Israel and Jews acting collectively have never done anything wrong. I’d suggest this as a response if anyone’s subjected to the anti-Semitism slur: “So, if I understand you, you’re saying that all criticism of the Jews is morally wrong.” Let the Jew answer.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  58. John Wear says:
    @Zachary Smith

    You write: “I want to see your sources for the highly questionable gas chambers and extermination camps.”

    My response: You can read Chapter 8 of my book “Germany’s War.” Ron Unz has published my book on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

    You write: “Ditto for the Six Million. It may have been 4.2 or 7.6, or something in between…”

    My response: Please read my article at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/13/1/7582. The number of Jews who died during World War II is much less than 4.2 million.

    I will be glad to answer any more questions you might have on this subject.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
  59. IronForge says:

    On Material:
    Be Objective.
    Stick with the Facts and Rational Critique.
    Avoid the Opinion/Bias/Name-Calling/Taunting.
    *****

    When Discussing:
    Avoid Projecting.

  60. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:

    What, are you daft?

    Schools are’t for educating you schmucks, bozo. They’re to socialise you in the dominant paradigm . . . ours!

    That’s why most high school graduates are usually pig ignorant dimwits who can barely read, write or do ‘rithmitic these days. Ain’t necessary for your future career in obedience.

    So no you ain’t getting no “holocaust revisionism” in schools. Especially, if as you nutjobs claim, it didn’t happen. How stupid do you have to be to . . . .

    Oh, wait, wait! Are you a graduate of the American schooling system . . .?

    Never mind. Carry on. Everything fine here.

  61. Charles says:

    One of the American Pravda articles is “Holocaust Denial”. Ron published it here on TUR in 2018. Anyone who seeks knowledge outside of the approved American media sources – which are, and always have been, little more than propaganda themselves – will be amazed and completely fascinated by Ron’s information. There is absolutely a completely different factual American history which runs parallel to “our American Pravda”.

  62. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:

    Why is it important to defend the 6 million figure? If it were fallible, would that alter the current balance of political power?

  63. @RoatanBill

    While I totally agree with you that History is by and large a matter of conjecture and/or a deliberate lie by the winners, I am not so sure that banning history lessons would solve the issue of subjecting the students of History to state propaganda.

    History books encompass plenty of truth distortion but can always include some truth gems. The question is how to teach history in a way that enhances a person’s critical thinking. While studying American History 101 back in the eighties, I stumbled upon a chapter about the American civil war where two narrations appeared: one coming from the Northern journalism while the other from Southern journalism. Applying this principle to the events of WWII, that would require an extensive display of the Nazi enemy’s intelligentsia before and after the war and let the student discern the wheat from the chaff.

    If people’s memory is wiped clean from historical events, who is to guarantee that the PTB would not use the vacuum to create more misdeeds like the war against Iraq’s WMD and Vietnam’s Gulf of Tonkin aggression by constantly manipulating the historical narrative to suit their nefarious ends.

    • Agree: Bugey libre
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @RestiveUs
  64. From my files: {The sole public benefit of JL*–911 [*=“Jewish Lightning”] has been that the backflash of that notorious stunt’s comparative crudity at last lit up for us the NAGIM** [**= Normal, Alias “Gentile”, IMmensity] the grim character of the 1963 Dallas Jack Whack as having been the all-time biggest kosher coup d’etat.}

    JeWorld HQ first used the historic hit in Dealey Plaza to consolidate JAR or the JewAmerican Regime (aka JAPE for “–Planetary Empire”). About 10 years later they decided to launch “the Holocaust ™” as their global psywar campaign.

    Today “BAY” stands for “Basic American Yidocracy”, with names such as those of Kneeling Joe Biden, Kamala Kackle गृध्र, Donald רמת טראמפ Trump, Notorious Nancy Pelosi, Amy Goodman of Yidocracy Now, Minister of the Left old Noam Chomsky, his heir apparent Norman Finkelstein, JVP, Admiral Rachel (nee Richard) Levine (check out this one) and so on.

    We the NAGIM are in danger of allowing Jew madness to destroy the Universe, capiche?

  65. HbutnotG says:
    @BorisMay

    Part was written in bpp (not available until after 1950.) What’s a “biro?”

    On the other hand, I have a goy Polish relative who wasn’t on the train his family was ordered onto when it departed one morning in Elblag and he never saw or heard from the rest of them ever again. He was 9 when that happened. I have known him for over 60 years, and if that’s a lie then I don’t believe anything anybody says.

    I have a very sensitive bowlshit detector and it goes off often on both sides of the holycost issue.

  66. @Stones

    “the number of deaths from all causes in all of the camps from (the Red Cross’s) careful record keeping was about 280,000”

    More people have died since 2001 in the Global War on Terror.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  67. ANON[752] • Disclaimer says:

    The whole holocaust narrative can easily be pulled apart. Jim Rizoli tv on bitchute spends his life pulling this hoax apart and has many videos proving hoax. In many countries it is illegal to even question it and if you try to defend yourself your lawyer will also be prosecuted.

    The truth fears no investigation

    In the video below a German doctor experiments with Zyclon b with live human subjects. It’s impossible to kill 100s at a time as the Jew hucksters claim. If you noticed in the holocaust narrative, they’re shifting the killing method to the eastern front with bullets and pits and yet that story doesn’t make sense. Where are the bodies?



    Video Link

    • Replies: @John Wear
  68. saggy says: • Website
    @mcohen

    The number of Jews that died in the camps for being Jews is zero. This vid examines the lies that make up the hoax ….



    Video Link

    The holocaust is preposterous hoax that is not supported by any physical evidence. It is made up of literally millions of lies, but it all rests on one ‘big lie’, and that big lie is the focus of this video.

    The hoax has three main components –
    1. The Nazis planned to exterminate the Jews.
    2. The Nazis built gas chambers to exterminate the Jews and disguised them as shower rooms.
    3. The Nazis killed six million Jews.

    Each component of the hoax is categorically false and completely without evidence. There was no Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews or anyone else, and no evidence of one has ever been found. The gas chambers disguised as shower rooms are pure phantasmagoria, and there is not a shred of physical evidence for them. The number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, and it is well documented that the Nazis aggressively investigated any crime in the camps.

    That is the hoax, and the reality

    The big lie is the photos and film footage that are shown of Jewish prisoners who had been gassed by the Nazis. The truth is that all the photos and film were taken after the war by British and US soldiers, and showed prisoners of all nationalities and religions who had died of typhus at the very last weeks of the war, primarily at Belsen where 35,000 died, 10,000 after the camp had been liberated by the British. Further, the Nazis had done everything in their power to combat the epidemic.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  69. HT says:

    If only our country was as concerned about protecting good law abiding white people as it is protecting Jews and Negroes.

    • Agree: Trinity, Katrinka
  70. Read the 10th chapter of Joshua, and tell me Jews don’t have a propensity for “documenting” tall tales.

  71. Ya but what about the Six Million Shekel Man??

  72. @Joe Levantine

    What experience and history teach is this – that people and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it.
    Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

    History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren’t there.
    George Santayana

    I find it strange that History is allowed to state things as undisputed fact when more respectable fields voice their ideas as theories. Have you ever seen the word “theory” used in connection to some historic narrative?

    The history books are the official propaganda for any nation. There are always writers that want to invent a different story, but they don’t really influence the official state narrative presented to the silly putty minds of the children in the indoctrination centers known as schools.

    I contend that history is harmful in that it states as truth that which is almost guaranteed to be a lie, an official lie. If one can’t trust the reporting on current events like the recent “insurrection”, the 2020 presidential vote, the effectiveness of the purposely misnamed “vaccines”, etc, then how can one possibly be gullible enough to trust the reporting of what happened before they were born?

    Political history leads inexorably to statues of the worst mass murderers being erected as a symbol to be emulated. It instills in children that “the other” is the enemy as long as some windbag politician says so. It glorifies war as a struggle between good and evil, when in fact it is always about the money to be made and resources to be stolen. The US fought Germany and Vietnam, for example, and now they’re political buddies. The people of those countries didn’t hate each other. The political class used the dolts in their respective societies to rearrange the political chess board requiring death on a grand scale.

    There is no value in political history except to use it as an instrument of propaganda to initiate the next atrocity.

  73. Mevashir says:

    Excellent introduction to a complex topic. Thanks for clarifying that Finkelstein is not a Holocaust Denier.

    I think a key to unravelling this shakedown is for both sides to be a lot more honest than they have been till now:

    1. Holocaust Revisionists and apologists for NS Germany (eg Caroline Yeager and John Wear) must admit that Germany under Hitler was National SOCIALISM not Capitalism. This is important because most of these groups are aligned with political movements that at least in the USA are extremely hostile to any and all forms of socialism.

    2. Clarify that because of the socialist component of Hitler’s regime, he came into direct conflict with the cabal of international Jewish financiers who control the Western World.

    3. Point out that no wealthy Jew perished in the Holocaust. They all bought their way to freedom and ran for the hills abandoning their less fortunate brethren, who were later taken hostage in collective acts of reprisal by NS Germany against Europe’s civilian Jewish population.

    4. These wealthy Jews (Rothschilds, Kuhns, Loebs. Warburgs, Lazards, Lehmans, etc) used the suffering of the middle class Jewish prisoners of NS Germany to force them to support the Zionist enterprise as a protection organization and a means to extract revenge against Germany. They adeptly inflicted survivor’s guilt, shame, and vengeance fantasies on Jews whose own core values contradict those of the racist apartheid Israeli State but who reluctantly support it out of the fear induced by the Jewish financial overlords.

  74. Mevashir says:
    @beavertales

    More people have died since 2001 in the Global War on Terror.

    Yes by a factor of at least ten. And in wwii itself 60 MILLION died, most of them civilians, and many through horrific firebombings and nuclear attacks that themselves were literal HOLOCAUSTS!

    • Agree: Hal Womack
  75. @mcohen

    The holocaust happened,not once but many times in jewish history.

    Truly baffling how THE CHOSEN PEOPLE create resentment enough to be exiled 109 times (actually many more.)

    Have yet to hear a single American benefit to our simp/OnlyJews arrangement, either.

    • Replies: @Matt07924
  76. Mevashir says:
    @DanFromCT

    Even granting the absurd 6 million Holohoax number derived from Jewish mysticism, the fact that Jews were the vanguard of communism in Russia and the Ukraine, of the Donmeh in Turkey, and are today the butchers of the Palestinians in Palestine, that makes Jews, and by an order of magnitude, the worst mass murderers in the history of Western Civilization.

    Not all Jews, only the most aggressive and psychopathic among them.

    It’s also bizarre they get away with the anti-Semitism canard used against anyone they hate. The Jews claim that anti-Semitism can only arise in irrational hatred and racism, which can only be true if Israel and Jews acting collectively have never done anything wrong. I’d suggest this as a response if anyone’s subjected to the anti-Semitism slur: “So, if I understand you, you’re saying that all criticism of the Jews is morally wrong.” Let the Jew answer.

    Try telling a Jew that the Torah is a book of laws to regulate Jewish criminals. Edgar Steele used to say:

    1. Anti-Semitism is a disease. You catch it from Jews.
    2. It used to be an anti-Semite was someone who hated Jews. Today it’s anyone Jews hate.
    https://archive.org/details/DefensiveRacismByEdgarJSteele

    • Agree: Bugey libre
    • Replies: @DanFromCT
  77. @papers

    It’s not just the Jewish lobby that’s at stake if the official holocaust narrative is debunked, it’s America’s reputation as well. At this point the holocaust and United States history is intertwined with one another. The story goes that we were the ones who liberated these people from the camps and help turn the tide of the war to defeat a merciless regime; a true battle between good & evil. If the official narrative comes under scrutiny, it would show that America has been knowingly perpetuating a false version of history for decades, thus eroding confidence in the foundation of country and its leadership… we can’t have that can we.

    • Agree: Katrinka
  78. John Wear says:
    @ANON

    You made an excellent comment. For more information on what is called the “Holocaust by Bullets,” you might enjoy reading my article at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/13/1/7720.

  79. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:

    If you are a Goy that doesn’t know your history, you would be unaware that Zionism began long before Hitler and WWII.

  80. Unit472 says:

    As a practical matter the “Holocaust” does not belong in the curriculum of US public schools. It has nothing to do with American history since what happened occurred in Eastern Europe and the former USSR. US soldiers did not liberate the 5 main camps associated with Operation Rheinhard or even get near them. US soldiers did liberate conventional Nazi prison camps like Dachau but not even Holocaust acolytes claim these were built or operated as part of any Holocaust. They were equal opportunity prisons used to hold enemies of the Nazi government.

    To the extent that Jews were found in camps like Bergen Belsen at wars end actually refutes the Jewish extermination claim since these were Jewish prisoners moved from camps being overrun by the Red Army in Eastern Europe. The Germans very much wanted to use them as slave labor thus they were transferred to territory still under German control.

    It would be fair to note that the Nazi regime committed many atrocities including the murder of US POWs and civilians of all nationalities during WW2 and that the vast majority of deaths occurred in the East where German and Soviet armies fought each other.

    • Agree: Jim H
  81. John Wear says:
    @Dr. X

    You made an excellent comment. For more information why the Holocaust story was invented, you might enjoy reading my article at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4881.

    • Agree: Fox
  82. BuelahMan says:

    Yet I’m called crazy when I suggest that the jews’ influence and control is overwhelming and needs to be totally dismantled.

  83. anon[114] • Disclaimer says:

    Why everything the zionist tells or suggest or demands -all-simply be rejected .

    After the 911 and before the 2003 war Neocons were powering the promotion of democracy in ME as the way towards prosperity ,peace, and stability . Zionist was most vocal aboiut it .

    But today democracy is not in the radar anymore .It has not been for a while .

    “An unnamed Israeli official has voiced support for a military coup in Sudan in an interview with the Israel Hayom newspaper.
    The official said that Israel should support the head of the Sudanese military, General Abdel Fattah Burhan, who led the coup on Monday because he was more likely than Prime Minister Abdulla Hamdok to normalise ties with Israel.
    The anonymous official also indirectly criticised a statement by Jeffrey Feltman, the US Special Envoy to the Horn of Africa, who called the military takeover “utterly unacceptable” and indicated that the US would cut off aid to Sudan as a result.
    “The country [Sudan] is not democratic as it was ruled for 30 years by the authoritarian regime of Omar Al-Bashir. While we understand why the US would like to see the democratization of Sudan, between the two Sudanese leaders, it is Burhan who is more inclined to bolster ties with the US and Israel,” Israel Hayom quoted the official as saying.– https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/israeli-official-voices-support-sudanese-military-coup

    Israel loves royals ,militaries, and fanatics BJP-RSS .Because they serve their agenda . Israeli agents were implicated in killing Rajiv Gandhi in 1991 .
    Anti democrat forces of ME rely on Israeli favors to survive .
    People hate Israel . So democracy is not an option.

    Moron Evangelical stupid Americans, dewy eyed lefties ignoramus never saw it coming that American ideas would be destroyed by American dollars and forces by Zionists.

    If possible Israel would cause coup in the western countries and impose military rules to confront BDS,to confront legitimization of Palestinain grievances and confront narrative of occupation, Nakba and secure more supports for unwarranted offensive aggression against Iran Lebanon Syria and later against not very obedient same royals and sheikhs of ME.

    Really ‘Woke” People are problem for Zionist. They solve the problem in many ways- one of those solutions is calling everyone anti semites .

    —–

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  84. Jim H says:

    ‘We recognize there are not two sides of the Holocaust.’ — Texas school superintendent

    What a braindead throwaway line.

    On arguably the most important question possible — whether a Supreme Deity exists or not — there are two sides.

    That the Holocaust is claimed to be exempt from debate establishes its status as a fanatical, evangelizing religion that brooks no opposition. Those who resist conversion will be severely punished.

    Israel, some of whose residents (or their ancestors) may have suffered abuse elsewhere, now places millions of Palestinians under brutal military occupation. Thus the abused child grows up to be an even more abusive parent, keeping the flame of pathology burning bright.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager, aspnaz
  85. HT says:

    Jews attempted to undermine democracy in Germany at every turn. Most supported communism and were determined to use every means possible to remove Hitler including economic warfare and worldwide boycotts. They officially declared war on their own country and thus had to be detained as a war was being fought. The Big Lie is that Jews were rounded up because of mere hatred. They were rounded up because they were traitors and a very high risk. We did it to Japanese in America and that was strictly precautionary. They did nothing to attack America like the Jews did in Germany.

    • Agree: HdC, Carolyn Yeager, Jim H
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  86. Well, it’s about time. Better late than never.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  87. Interesting how they change definitions to hide facts. Todays definition removes ownership of their sacrifice.

    Websters dictionary of 1828:

    HOL’OCAUST, noun [Gr. whole, and burnt, to burn.] A burnt-sacrifice or offering, the whole of which was consumed by fire; a species of sacrifice in use among the Jews

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  88. Mevashir says:
    @Eileen

    It was only in the middle of WWII that Hitler suddenly decided on the mass extermination of his Jewish subjects and it was only then that the leaders of Poland’s Jews finally realized that there was going to be no Judeopolonia after all. Most of the leaders of the Jewish ghettos (who had earlier steadfastly refused to cooperate with the Polish Resistance) then committed suicide, seeing that the long-standing loyalty of the greater part of European Jewry towards the German cause had been unrequited.

    But everyone here is claiming there was no mass extermination? So you are not a Revisionist or Denier?

    The BBC documentary on Auschwitz claims that after the German invasion of Russia got bogged down and Hitler saw that the All-Lies were determined to support Stalin at all costs, he took out his anger on European Jewish civilians, who were seized as hostages to force the All-Lies to stop aiding Stalin.

    • Replies: @Eileen
    , @Eileen
  89. Mevashir says:
    @Anonymous

    And to 53: https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/why-not-question-the-holocaust-in-schools/#comment-4973925

    Make sure you know what your “revisionist hero” David Coleslaw really thinks:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/both-sides-now-in-the-key-of-auschwitz/
    Whatever my disputes with the mainstream Holocaust narrative, the Holocaust absolutely happened and American K-through-12 kids have no need to study the ventilation shafts of a building in Poland in 1943. We’re graduating kids who can’t read or do basic math. The whole purpose of opposing CRT is to not impose ideological fetishes on kids.

    • Replies: @Mark X. Andersen
  90. Mevashir says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    https://www.unz.com/article/out-thought-out-bought-out-fought-why-the-9-11-truth-movement-failed/#comment-4973381 – All the big denies like Caroline Yaeger are looking for Jewish blood in Webbers family line. LOL

    From Fran Taubman. What does she mean here?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  91. ld says:
    @Cookie Boy

    The folks in the open-air Gulag currently being disappeared for their land may disagree with you

  92. DanFromCT says:
    @Mevashir

    Of course not all Jews, only the very worst among them. Jews in general are no more responsible for the crimes of the communist vanguard and commissars than Italians are of the crimes of the Mafia. Still, it’s time that Western Civilization is no longer held hostage to the Holocaust extortion racket and that canard about being anti-Semites for pointing out obvious crimes against humanity, whoever is responsible.

  93. I’d like to donate a dozen copies of the Furor’s ‘MEIN KAMPF’, or at least hand out picture post cards with links to free .pdf copies to read or download.
    The more they try and censor, the more outlets will emerge to access those that are banned.

    My Choice, My Mind

    My Choice, My Body

  94. Anon[361] • Disclaimer says:

    I think it’s worth noting that following the English (Protestant) conquest of Ireland, it was a death sentence to admit you were a Catholic. And of course, the SOLIDLY Catholic province of Ulster was cleansed of everyone not Protestant. Uncounted millions of Irish died during the march south, frequently from starvation. Corpses were found by the side of the road with green tongues from eating grass, since there was nothing else to eat.

    But EVERYWHERE else (except Protestant-run America), Irish were welcomed and celebrated. The King of France gave the King of Spain an Irish general as a birthday present. The King of Spain thanked him very much. So many “French” regiments were solidly Irish that the French formed the Irish Brigade. One of my distant uncles (Jean Francois O’Mahony) was the last commander of the Legion following the French Revolution. The Legion was disbanded by the Revolutionaries because they had too many monarchists.

    On this side of the Atlantic, English (Protestants) simply HATED Irish (Catholics), and the troubles in New York City during the Civil War were simply a continuation of the Protestant reaction to Irish “treason” on this side of the Atlantic.

    So you celebrate YOUR days of Remembrance, and I’ll celebrate mine.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  95. John Wear says:
    @Mevashir

    Thank you for your comment. I do not regard myself as being an apologist for NS Germany. Specifically, I have been highly critical of the following National Socialist policies:

    1. The suppression of free speech. It is a fact that Hitler sent numerous people to concentration camps who never should have been there. A prime example is Martin Niemoller, who was merely exercising what should have been his right to free speech and religion. There are numerous other examples I could cite of this suppression of free speech.

    2. The German euthanasia program. I do not believe that any nation has the right to murder anyone merely because they are mentally ill.

    3. The German illegal medical experimentation during the war. Although Germany was in a desperate position during the war, this does not give them the right to perform illegal and sometimes lethal medical experiments on people.

    Your point number three above is not really accurate. The current September/October 2021 issue of The Barnes Review (TBR) has a lead article documenting that Hitler imprisoned several Rothschilds during the war. If you have an interest, you might want to purchase this expanded issue of TBR.

    • LOL: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @HdC
  96. @Z-man

    “…Has anybody from your race of liars and manipulators given us 6 Million names, 3 Million even say 1 Million? No…”

    “…About the Central Database of Shoah Victims’ Names.

    “…The Names Database was launched on the Internet in 2004 with close to three million victims documented…”

    Source: https://www.yadvashem.org/archive/hall-of-names/database.html

  97. @Zachary Smith

    But I want to see your sources for the “highly questionable” gas chambers and extermination camps.

    The “gas chamber” story is laughable and was debunked as far back as the mid-90s when Ernst Zundel and David Cole visited and videotaped what was purported to be the “gas chambers” at Auschwitz along with a guy who actually designed execution chambers in the United States.

    As far as questioning motives, the real issue is why should we trust the same people who made up the ridiculous tales of “human soap” or “lampshades” or “12 million killed” to tell the truth about anything related to the so-called Holocaust? When a person has filed 16 “slip and fall” lawsuits against various places of business, you don’t get the benefit of the doubt when you file your 17th such lawsuit, especially when the story is about the mass killing of people with insecticide.

    • Agree: HdC
  98. @Carolyn Yeager

    Although I wrote that before I actually read the article, which isn’t much and I think is taken partially from my article https://carolynyeager.net/no-two-sides-holocaust-texas-public-school-educators-agree, published on 10-17. One paragraph is word for word. But Giraldi doesn’t go past where Norman Finkelstein went, and Finkelstein is only a semi-revisionist, if that, and his book ‘Holocaust Industry’ (2000) doesn’t take on the entire holohoax in any way, shape or form. So it doesn’t look like PG has made much progress after all.

  99. Anonymous[305] • Disclaimer says:

    If you want to kill a bunch of people, why load them onto a train, transport them far away, tattoo them with identifying numbers, and then NOT KILL THEM? In what universe does that make sense? A bullet is cheaper than trainfare.

    If you want to kill people, just kill them. Don’t make a big production out of it.

    One is reminded of the mistreatment of the Palestinians.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager, Trinity
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @GomezAdddams
  100. anarchyst says:

    The so-called “holocaust™” can easily be debunked on engineering, scientific and logistical principles.
    Just maybe a “roundabout way” can be found to discredit this “hoax of the twentieth century by incorporating serious analysis of this “non-event” in STEM programs.
    Holohoax claims such as 15-minute total cremations and non-sealed “gas chambers” using “bug spray” as an execution agent in rooms without ventilation systems can easily be debunked as fully and totally false. This could also be a vehicle to finally discredit the “lampshades, shrunken heads, electric floors and masturbation machine” hoaxes as well.
    Investigations into the day-to-day operation of the labor camps would show that jewish “capos” (jewish inmate bosses and supervisors) lived relatively stress-free lives, ate better than the ordinary inmates who were quite often abused, (especially if they were gentiles) and in general directed day-to-day operations for their own benefit and for that of fellow jews.

  101. Mevashir says:
    @Nick from Newtown

    They agree it was a sacrifice. They just claim that the “priests” offering the sacrifice were German SS rather than Jews. But if the narrative could be shifted to where the Jewish elites themselves have created this mythical sacrifice seeking to victimize the Jewish masses for their own Zionist real estate project, maybe attitudes would change.

    (In the Jewish mentality, any time Jews are martyred it is a sacrifice pleasing to God that evokes Divine Mercy on the Jewish remnant.)

  102. Fox says:

    If I remember correctly, a member of Reagan’s cabinet made such remarks as well namely, if teaching a subject one should look at it from all sides. I think it was about teaching “history” and she said in essence that this included the viewpoint of the National Socialists.
    I don’t remember what happened, but the sensible opinion was obviously not taken up but used as fresh impetus to intensify ideologically motivated of indoctrination everywhere. Since then, many countries have enacted or intensified criminal persecution of people who think that inquiry into the topic and hand is a necessary corollary to knowledge and understanding in the widest possibly sense.

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
  103. @HT

    In addition to that, HT, many Jews remained untouched throughout the war because they were quiet and not known to be secretly or inadvertently helping the enemy.

    Also, homosexuals were ONLY detained in detention camps if they were arrested for openly displaying their sexual preferences in public–something that was illegal in Germany. If they were sent to Auschwitz, it was because they were guilty of a crime. If they remained “in the closet” they were entirely left alone. That, however, is very difficult for Homos, which is why they become a social problem.

    Point is, everything done in N-S Germany was for cleaning up the social filth and Jewish excess of the Weimar era. They had every right to do it; it was all self-defense.

    • Agree: HT, Fox, HdC, Mike Fridelle
  104. Mevashir says:
    @anon

    Israel loves royals ,militaries, and fanatics BJP-RSS .Because they serve their agenda . Israeli agents were implicated in killing Rajiv Gandhi in 1991. Anti democrat forces of ME rely on Israeli favors to survive. People hate Israel. So democracy is not an option. Moron Evangelical stupid Americans, dewy eyed lefties ignoramus never saw it coming that American ideas would be destroyed by American dollars and forces by Zionists.

    1000% TRUE!!!

    Evangelicals are also anti-democratic. They yearn for a righteous king or emperor to rule over them like in biblical times. They only support democracy when they are weak and in the minority. But if they ever attain majority rule they will gut democracy just like the Zionists.

  105. Mevashir says:
    @Anon

    Do you know that there are more US presidents of Irish extraction than any other ethnic group?

  106. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Except that the Central Database of Shoah Victims takes every name (form) sent to them with NO vetting, resulting in multiple appearance of the same person, or even made-up persons. Yad Vashem is totally useless because, like all Jews and Jewish organizations, they have no problem with lies and fictional accounts — what Jews call “story-telling.” https://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/elie-admits-his-true-stories-never-happened/ explains it. Have you read this yet? If you do, maybe you would comment on it.

    • Agree: Mike Fridelle
    • Thanks: Z-man
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  107. CSFurious says:

    I think the best way to deal with the Holocaust is to start questioning the number of Jews that were killed. You cannot hit “normies” in the face with the truth. You need to utilize what is known as the “Slow Drip” method of persuasion.

  108. The censorship and propaganda has been going for over two thousand years.
    One of the greatest censorships in history and its eventual rewrite was the intentional destruction of the Library of Alexandria in Egypt. The Library of Alexandra contained the most comprehensive collections of human knowledge known to man written on clay, stone, papyrus and parchment, many from a time before civilizations, where secrets of all knowledge began …after it was burnt to the ground, what had conveniently remained of its treasures is a translation of the first five books of the Hebrew Bible into Greek, and fragments retained in the writings of some of the library’s resident scholars.

    • Agree: Angharad
  109. 2-3 million Jews were murdered by the Nazis. Still a holocaust.

    • Troll: Trinity
    • Replies: @rufus clyde
  110. @Mevashir

    Cole argues (correctly IMHO) that the logistics at the death camps don’t support 5-6 million killed, but he believes it was about half of that.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  111. @Tucker

    Touche, Tucker. As America becomes more Non-White by the year (thanks to the tireless efforts of the Jews themselves) it may not be a good thing for them, nor for Israel.
    Blacks, Hispanics and Asians are generally not fond of Jews, and certainly have not been brainwashed about the “Holocaust” to the extent that Whites have.
    Couple this with America’s accelerating economic decline, and certainly America’s willingness and ability to support the artificial, parasitic nation of Israel may evaporate.
    Israel will not continue to exist without the tribute paid by the US, and the diplomatic cover that it provides in the form of its UN veto, etc.
    The parasitic usually ends up killing its host.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  112. geokat62 says:

    The tale of “the holocaust” is essentially a contrived bit of history that serves a political objective wrapped up in what purports to be a powerful statement regarding man’s inhumanity to man.

    Look a squirrel, goy!

    Why do we never teach our children about the tens of millions slaughtered in the name of Tikkun olam 1.0, a workers paradise?

    It would do our children more good if we did so as they are about to be slaughtered in the name of Tikkun olam 2.0, a wokers paradise.

  113. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    ‘Anything that is true should be able to stand up to scrutiny. If scrutiny is banned and the demand is made that it must be taken on faith, then it’s only reasonable to surmise that the truthfulness of the subject is not unquestionably established, and that the people who insist on shielding the topic from scrutiny are afraid that it will be proved to be not true.’

    Yeah — but who cares about the truth?

    We see the same thing with the Corona Virus. The supposed issue becomes nothing more than a banner, waved to rally the troops.

  114. I have no problem with presenting arguments against the holocaust, but it’s not appropriate material for kids until 12th grade — or maybe not even until college.

    • Agree: Agent76
  115. Mevashir says:
    @Mark X. Andersen

    Cole argues (correctly IMHO) that the logistics at the death camps don’t support 5-6 million killed, but he believes it was about half of that.

    So in agreement with this source?

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/why-not-question-the-holocaust-in-schools/#comment-4974304
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/why-not-question-the-holocaust-in-schools/#comment-4974217
    https://www.yadvashem.org/archive/hall-of-names/database.html

    “…The Names Database was launched on the Internet in 2004 with close to three million victims documented…”

  116. Just like the Dead Sea Scrolls hoax, I’m waiting for the greatest archaeological find ever of an ancient ET craft buried near where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found with Hebrew hieroglyphs molded into its frame, just before a global ET hoax invasion takes place.

    Our Celestial Hebrew overlords have finally arrived to save the chosen ones from anti semites, white Supremacists-domestic terrorists.

    Is this not a great SciFi synopsis or what?

  117. Mevashir says:
    @anon

    do schools have to teach about the jews’ genocide of the canaanites? the yezovhshchina? the khmer rouge? the great leap forward? all the mass murder phil’s beloved CIA has committed? etc.?

    Excellent points!

  118. Ron Unz says:

    For those so interested, here’s a link to the 17,600 word article I published on this same subject just over three years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    With the summary conclusion:

    I think it far more likely than not that the standard Holocaust narrative is at least substantially false, and quite possibly, almost entirely so.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  119. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:

    First, all it takes is one quick look at this short list of reasons why the holocaust never happened to be convinced that the whole holocaust issue is really a non-issue.
    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t553062/

    Next I am getting sick of all this holocaust talk with all the jewish control over our society and the corrupt dealings of those people. To be realistic its time to light the ovens and be done with all the problems that go along with those people. It is not something I relish but it has to be done. Our white backs are backed against the wall and there is no way out except ovens. It is either us or them, either whites goes extinct or jews go extinct. That is the bottom line reality and the sooner we face it the better.

    • Replies: @anon
  120. Suppose the Holocaust had never occurred, had never been alleged, had never been called “the Holocaust.” Imagine that no great persecution had provided the Jewish state with a special excuse for oppressive emergency measures. In other words, imagine that Israel were forced to justify itself like any other state.
    In that case, Israel’s treatment of its Arab minorities would appear to the world in a very different light. Its denial of equal or even basic rights to those minorities would lack the excuse of a past or prospective “Holocaust.” Civilized people would expect it to treat those it ruled with impartial justice. Special privileges for Jews would appear as outrageous discrimination, no different from insulting legal discrimination against Jews. The sense — and excuse — of perpetual crisis would be absent. Israel might be forced or pressured, possibly against its will, to be “normal.” If it chose to be democratic, its Jews would have to take their chance of being outnumbered, just like majorities in other democracies. Nobody would suppose that losing elections would mean their annihilation.
    In short, the Holocaust has become a device for exempting Jews from normal human obligations. It has authorized them to bully and blackmail, to extort and oppress. This is all quite irrational, because even if six million Jews were murdered during World War II, the survivors are not entitled to commit the slightest injustice. If your father was stabbed in the street, that’s a pity, but it’s not an excuse for picking someone else’s pocket.
    -excerpted from an article by Joe Sobran

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  121. Mevashir says:
    @John Wear

    Thanks for clarifying. You are walking a very narrow tightrope apparently.

    [MORE]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WnEAxa1tFc

    http://www.hebrewsongs.com/song-kolhaolamkulo.htm
    https://www.falmouthjewish.org/the-world-is-a-narrow-bridge/

    Which is why I was fascinated to read something that came my way from my colleague, Rabbi Stephen Arnold, who noted that Rabbi Nachman’s famous teaching has been misquoted down through the centuries. The second part of that text actually reads, “v’ha-ikar lo l’hit-pa-cheyd klal”….Translation: “the essential thing is not to become paralyzed by [your] fear.” We cannot simply wish our fears away or ignore them; they often serve a critical function in our lives, warning us away from danger or prompting us to appropriate and necessary action. What we can and must do is resist the paralysis of will that fear can engender.

    https://dailystoic.com/the-world-is-a-narrow-bridge/

    This surreal novel is quite wonderful and, like all wonderful art, is filled with little bits of insight about the human condition that are worthy of pulling out and thinking about, as the Stoics often did in their writings. In the case of this little epigram, fiction was inspired by reality. It was the real life Rabbi Nachman of Breslov who came up with that beautiful prayer sometime in the early 1800s. In Hebrew it is rendered כל העולם כולו גשר צר מאוד והעיקר לא לפחד כלל. In 1973, the prayer, Kol ha’olam kulo gesher tzar me’od, was broadcast as a song (written by Orthodox Jewish rabbi Baruch Chait) by Ariel Sharon’s command to his troops during the Yom Kippur war. The song has since become a staple of Israeli culture—there are now hundreds of versions available in every style, each one deeply felt and moving. (Kol Ha’Olam Kulo was even covered by Grammy Award-winning singer Ofra Haza, who many consider the “Madonna of the East.”)

  122. sardar says:

    The Jewish mafia who spread FAKE jewish ‘holocaust’ themselves are the biggest holocaust denier and continue to commit crimes against humanity. Palestinians the indigenous population of Palestine cannot be buried in THEIR OWN land. To force the holohoax on others as a ‘true’ story to black mail world population, these criminals are destroying Palestinians’ graves to remove all the evidence to STEAL more lands.

    United against the mafia zionists, and expose them all over the world. Israel has no right to exist in OCCUPIED Palestine.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  123. @Zachary Smith

    Let’s see your sources that support the notion of unquestionable gas chambers.

  124. @Craig Nelsen

    I see by your wielding of the fairy tale of Bolshevik murders of Christians you’re ready to do combat in the arena of imaginary genocides. Avē Imperātor, moritūrī tē salūtant!

  125. Agent76 says:

    Mar 14, 2012 Holocaust Uncovered (1945) – WARNING: Distressing Images

    English MP Mrs. Mavis Tate shows proof of the holocaust with shots from her visit to a German concentratino camp. Taken from the original 1945 British Pathe newsreel “German Atrocities – Proof”. This Pathe newsreel showed the world at the time what atrocities had been committed.

    Sep 6, 2011 Holocaust Uncovered Pt 2: The Belsen Beast | War Archives
    War Archives

    WARNING: DISTRESSING IMAGES. A line of female SS troops are seen marching from their quarters as well. Joseph Kramer is seen as well, the Commandant of Belsen, or “Belsen beast” as the media later referred to him as.

  126. @BorisMay

    Anne Frank’s journal was written with a drawing pen or a pencil and corrected with a ball-point some rather short time after the war, as Anne Frank herself didn’t intend to write a best-seller. Anne-Frank did go to Bergen-Belsen but this camp was not for extermination purposes : she died of a typhus she had caught before being deported due to low food rations and part of the reason why she together with many others was transported was to avoid them the famine that was killing Holland : the Reich needed factory manpower. She was not even identified as Jewish when she was deported : at that point of the war, especially on the Western front, nobody cared except if the Jews were known as communists : only the useless mouths greatly risked being killed no matter you were German, non-German or anti-German. The Final Solution was no longer the order of the day.

    Actually ball-point pens existed during WWII : the Biro patent, dating from 1938, had been conceived for Hungary’s industrial and military purposes (the patent was registered in England, though) before being taken over by the Luftwaffe to provide pens that would work despite the sudden changes of altitude and pressure, with a thick ink humidity and dampness of paper couldn’t erase. It is perfectly conceivable that a German aviator had left such a pen somewhere in a nearby café or given it as gift to friends. The RAF too had Biro-patent ball points for writing in altitude but their model were far messier, but it is also possible that the corrector used one during the Allied invasion. The US started making their own ball-point pens right in 1945 but their market price to the general public was prohibitive.

    • Replies: @Mike Fridelle
  127. Easy piecy!! we can play by their rules and still win. The counter proppossal is easy!! If they have books about the holocoust, you shoul also have books about the palestinian nabka, the killings of palestinians at shatila and sabra, about the killing of palestinian children by the IDF, about the invasion of Lebanon, and so forth…

    • Replies: @Mike Fridelle
  128. Schuetze says:
    @LarryS

    That’s about like trying to tell a “normie” that the civil war was not about freeing the slaves.

    The vast majority of Americans, and Europeans, have no clue about real history. Their entire perspective on history is through a Talmudic prism that has inverted everything. For them to really understand any historic even they need to discard everything that they consider to be “knowledge”. One good starting point for unravelling the truth is the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

  129. Mevashir says:
    @OldWhiteMan

    Blacks, Hispanics and Asians are generally not fond of Jews, and certainly have not been brainwashed about the “Holocaust” to the extent that Whites have.

    Asians love Jews and vica-versa. Jews are noted for spending Christmas in Chinese restaurants. Hispanics too, since so many of them are descended from Jewish-Catholics persecuted by Ferdinand and Isabella in the Spanish Inquisition. Some say that 10% of the global Hispanic population of 600 million souls is of Jewish extraction:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUMkcBctE7c




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A4QXVzd1HY

    The connection between Hanukkah and Christmas actually is very deep:

    both on 25th of their months
    both festivals of light in the darkness.
    both involving purifying the Temple

    The story of Hanukkah actually provides the strongest proof that Jesus is the Messiah: http://www.mevashir.home.blog/2019/12/19/dreidling-around-the-bush-thoughts-on-hanukkah/

    https://mevashirhome.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/stop-smoking-prayer_page_2.jpg?w=1024

    • Replies: @RobinG
  130. @Zachary Smith

    The late Robert Faurisson stated that he had one question, to which he never received an answer:
    Show me, or draw for me a homicidal Nazi gas chamber.
    Faurisson was part of Zundel’s defense. Here is a brief description of his role, and the trials in general.
    http://ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p417_Faurisson.html
    The transcripts of the Zundel trials are also available on line.

  131. @Carolyn Yeager

    Well, I am not privy to the inner workings of Yad Vashem, but this is what they themselves say about their methodology:

    “…Submissions can take up to six months before they are uploaded to the online database which is updated several times a year. Yad Vashem’s staff verifies and cross-references, as far as possible, the new information for historical accuracy before adding it to the Database…”

    Source: https://www.yadvashem.org/archive/hall-of-names/database.html

    If they would be lying all the time, then why have they not lied and said they found the magical six million already?

  132. Mevashir says:
    @Allen Edwards

    In that case, Israel’s treatment of its Arab minorities would appear to the world in a very different light. Its denial of equal or even basic rights to those minorities would lack the excuse of a past or prospective “Holocaust.” Civilized people would expect it to treat those it ruled with impartial justice.

    Yes, and when “civilized people” assert such to the Israelis, they respond with a long litany of atrocities Westerners have perpetrated against indigenous folks around the world. And thus claim immunity.

    To Ron Unz @ https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/why-not-question-the-holocaust-in-schools/#comment-4974419: Why don’t you invite David Cole to articulate his perspective here in a debate, as you did with Mike Whitney re Covaxx?! I suspect David would be honored to contribute to TUR!

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  133. @Mark X. Andersen

    Grade and Middle schools are there to teach American History in great priority : international history is a subject to be introduced much later, and even then you have to start with ancient, medieval and modern-era international history before your students are ready to embark into contemporary era controversies. In China they consider the French and American revolution too recent events to be taught to students before University. The Holocaust is not part of American history, any more than the holocausts wrought by the Moghuls in India or those wrought by Clive during the British conquest of India : the event happened for the essential part nearly only in Poland and some neighbouring counties (it was a clearly Soviet zone of revenge so to speak), that is to say well outside the US Army’s purview on the European front and most of the US war effort during WWII was by far in the Pacific theatre : normally one should give a more extensive mention of the Japanese massacres that happened in the Asian countries that counted on the US to escape the Japanese empire. The Soviet gulag is more linked to American history as the Soviet industry was heavily dependent upon American commerce and expertise during the various stages of its construction, and as America favored the horror of that regime by pointful interventions. On the other hand the wanton destruction of Iraq and Libya is part and parcel of American history, as well as the gun-boat diplomacy period of the conquest and occupation of China in the 19th century.

  134. Trinity says:

    Why not teach about the Holodomor in our schools. I had never even heard or read of the Holodomor unti I was in my mid 30’s.

    Why not teach about Jewish mass murderers like Genrikh Yagoda and Lazar Kaganovich in junior high and high schools. Why is not the name Genrikh Yagoda as familiar to a 8th grade kid in America as Adolf Hitler?

    Why do we have Holocaust museums in America? Whether the Holocaust is true, exaggerated or a flat out lie, the event happened in Europe so why in the hell would America have Holocaust museums here? I sure don’t see any Holodomor museums in America.

    Why was it that growing up as kids in America we never heard an account of WWII from the German side of the war? Are we to believe that Germans ( a pretty amiable people by and large) just woke up one day and decided to be mean to people because they didn’t look European enough and they had a strange religion. Speaking of “religion,” how many Jews back then as now are Jewish by bloodline only? I just figured how they keep perpetuating that 2% LIE. That figure takes into account “religious” Jews only. Talk about FUDGING stats. Back to the German side of the war, these are the same Jews who have/had been expelled from various nations 109 times!!! That alone PUSHES the narrative of the Jews being the instigators way in favor of the Germans. I mean would you rent to someone who had been evicted 109 times??? Come to find out, the Jews were pulling the same shit in Germany they pulled in the Soviet Union and what they are pulling off in White Nations now. Hitler and karma came along. Hitler and Germany were fighting for their honor, their future, and the survival of their people. The Jew instigated WWII and was doing his best to ruin Germany and force the Germans in Germany to live like dogs. Adolf threw a wrench into that plan.

    • Agree: Mike Fridelle
    • Replies: @HbutnotG
  135. @Mevashir

    must admit that Germany under Hitler was National SOCIALISM not Capitalism.

    Well, well, well!
    Will you admit that you think communism and socialism are the same thing? Real socialism is anarchy. Socialism detests banks, and wants the government out of the economy. Hitler was mildly socialist, but unquestionably nationalist. The NS emphasized that their programme was a German solution to German problems and not for export. The greatest sin of NS Germany was poking the Bank of International Settlements in the eye, by trading commodity for commodity with other countries, whenever possible.
    Capitalism relies on the government to create a political economy.
    Capitalism is the flip side of the same shekel to communism. Both seek to concentrate wealth into the hands of the few. It’s all in how you define the commune.
    Americans didn’t want capitalism, they wanted the American way of life, which meant no monopolies of capitalism like the Federal Reserve.
    A commercial transaction is not capitalism.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  136. Schuetze says:

    Zundel, Irving, Stoll, Haverbeck and many more represent the long parade of innocent victims of eternal Judaic vengeance. Even poor seemingly unrelated schmucks like Chauvin, Rittenhouse and Fields are in reality victims of Judaic vengeance used to teach goy to not even think about organizing or resisting. All these examples are victims of Jewish Power.

    Before the holohoax the planetary legal systems had not yet been activated and tuned to project extra-legal Jewish power. It is a sad but true fact that this is the predicament that we find ourselves in. To resist Jewish Power is instantaneous justification for vilification and cancellation.

    • Replies: @Dingo bay rum
  137. The holocaust debate reminds me of the JFK assassination debate when I was a kid. Doubt there will be a movie made about it, though.

    The upshot: today it’s accepted that the official line about JFK is BS, but nobody was punished, and nothing much has changed.

  138. Mulegino1 says:

    In order to be denied, something must first be defined precisely and definitively.

    The religion of the Shoah Business resists any kind of precise definition in a statistical, logistical or even a precise historical context.

    We are left with a very nebulous, pseudo-mystical figure of “6 million” which cannot be defined down into discrete historical or physical facts.

    The means that the Germans allegedly used to kill the Jews are constantly revised and changed.

    The official narratives of the mass gassing chambers and mass burials and cremations at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek and Treblinka II have been falsified- by the technical and logistical absurdity of the mass gassing methods claimed, and the total lack of any massive traces of human remains or mass graves commensurate with even a tenth of the numbers of victims claimed.

    It would appear that the so called “Holocaust” is the first genocide in history where the number of survivors actually increases over time!

    We know we are dealing with a pseudo-religion and not a definite historical event when the narrative is historically defined. Shoahism reminds me of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah’s Witnesses); while the latter continued to make false predictions about the future that failed to occur, then replace the failed prophecies with new ones, the former makes false claims about the past which must be constantly changed and updated to shore up the big lie. Like all false narratives, the facts must conform, Procrustean like, to the sacrosanct legend.

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Replies: @HbutnotG
    , @anon
  139. anon[186] • Disclaimer says:

    If the facts can actually stand up to scrutiny, they wouldn’t be so touchy about debating different perspectives. Jews have a tendency to overplay their hands, they can’t help themselves. Like that thing they called “chutzpah” (or in English, shameless dishonesty), over sensitivity is also in their DNA. The more hysterical they get, the more people will realize something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  140. @Mevashir

    Yes, David Cole has a long history of admiring Ron Unz. Call their agents and work it out, idea man.

  141. Bert33 says:

    “In war, the first casualty is the truth.” One object of fascination from Big Two was the German encryption effort to keep their transmissions and war plans unintelligible to the west. They were pretty successful but eventually, the west succeeded and started being able to respond better to German war plans and the rest is history.

    [MORE]

    Goebbels and the Nazi propaganda machine were a different situation, one of the last acts of Hitler’s army was to burn a small fortune in celluloid film at Tempelhof airport. What is known is that the lebensraumy ‘shining path’ germanium social ideal was forever lost…or…was it? Some say that it was a shared dream, an international ambition, and not just among the Axis powers but also among western industrialists such as Henry Ford, whose motor coach works apparently built vehicles for the Wehrmacht, ‘back in the day’, and supported the American Nazi Party when there was such a thing. All very interesting, especially in light of the last American nazi in our govt. today, one Dr. Anthony Fauci, with his planetary medical social authority and his cute lil’ double-snakey armband thingy and the clotshot that might kill you. Sometimes.

    Fascism derives from ‘fasces’, or ‘sticks’, one stick is flimsy, many sticks bound together are strong.
    The unified strength of the Axis was to be the tool of global domination. Kinda didn’t work out for em so well, which is good, because German can be dang hard to learn. Those 30-syllable nouns in the past-unpleasant subjugative tense are a real mother. Yep, no Vaterland bossing us around today, though we do have something called ‘homeland’-something, and the Facebook digi-STASI.

    There’s a reason some people don’t vote, they view all govt. in all its forms as equally suspect and not to be trusted. They can’t keep their story straight and state-sponsored media is prime example. Say one thing, do something different, might as well have been coined by govt. itself. Right along with ‘do as I say’.

    Big Two war dead, including (but not limited to) Jews: About 70 million people died during the war, military and civilian both, either as a direct consequence or due to economic disruption and poverty, starving to death, disease, that kind of thing. Hypothermia sucks. Time marches on.

    That was then, 1945, this is now, tail end of 2021. And, today’s question is whether enough time has now passed for Germany and Israel to re-bury their war dead and give final honors and blessing to those still among the living, regardless of which side of which border or what uniform or religious denomination etc. Forgiveness is a Christian concept, Israel is the birthplace of Jesus Christ, Germany is a Christian nation for the most part, so, maybe the Pope has a duty to perform here in facilitating an inter-governmental, international gathering and meeting of the (hearts and) minds of those who survived and bore witness, and the rest of those who bore us to tears because they just can’t let the past be the past.

    As with the latest exciting chapter of the Neverending Israeli-Palestinian conflict, people are tired of hearing about Big Two. It’s over, let it die. Blessings on those who died, and their families and survivors, but focus on the living and how we’re going to try and feed, clothe, house, and keep healthy and keep the peace between the 8 billion who now walk the earth.

  142. gotmituns says:
    @Mark X. Andersen

    Just looking at our young people, maybe they couldn’t understand it until maybe the age of 70-80 or so.

  143. Mevashir says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Will you admit that you think communism and socialism are the same thing? Real socialism is anarchy. Socialism detests banks, and wants the government out of the economy. Hitler was mildly socialist, but unquestionably nationalist.

    I don’t follow you here? I support Socialism, but not Communism. I think German NS was a good idea and tried hard to save its people from very destructive foreign elements that had ravaged their society.

  144. Trinity says:

    Seems to me that World Jewry owes reparations to Germany rather than the other way around. And I am sure many Eastern Europeans who lived behind the Iron Curtain might want to talk reparations as well. And lets not forget about those MILLIONS OR TENS OF MILLIONS of people in the Soviet Union who died horrible deaths at the hands of Jewish Bolsheviks.

    Germany and Germans have an awful good case when it comes to being slandered and lied about in some of the most vile and despicable manners around for over a century now. Yes, those evil Germans in WWI were sharpening their bayonets on babies. smdh. Spare me the hysterics but of course BACK IN THE REAL WORLD in all Traditional White nations, we have White women being brutally raped by an assortment of POC everyone from Pakis to Africans, from Arab cavemen to tortilla eating Beaners, no hyperbole there, troops. Hell, the Jew media IGNORES it. And lest we forget what is happening to defenseless Palestinians at the hands of cowardly Israelis. Women, children and even elderly Palestinians are not spared it seems. Seems like the only time fair skinned people can brutalize brown skinned people is when Khazars can torture Palestinians in land they stole from Palestinians.

    Just thought about the standard European version of Jesus. That version of Jesus looks a helluva lot more “Semitic” than these Khazars who claim to be Jews.

    Revelation 2:9 & Revelation 3:9

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  145. Possibly just now is not the time for the ((US govt)) to discuss this.

    One of the top brains in the Pentagram has discovered an imminent threat.
    This is no laughing matter. Dr Kahl looks serious, if not quite sane …

    A senior Pentagon official says the US intelligence community has assessed that terrorist groups in Afghanistan could attack the United States in six months if left unchecked, and that they have the intention to carry out such an assault.

    Even right now they’re assembling those ICBMs in Bora-Bora …

    https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2021/10/26/669325/US-Colin-Kahl-intelligence-community-terrorist-groups-in-Afghanistan-

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  146. BADmejr says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Check out inconvenienthistory.com

    That has an excellent collection of historical research in the form of an online journal with many well educated researchers. If you believe “it may have been 4.2 or 7.6” million, then you have definitely not been exposed to sources that truly look into the possibility of this. There actually were no “death camps” in which Jews were systematically murdered in gas chambers. Yes, Jews were rounded up, as they were enemies of Germany. Even worldwide Jewry declared war on Germany well before WWII started. There are many FACTS reviewed that easily prove the official Holocaust narrative is not only improbably but IMPOSSIBLE. Perhaps a few hundred thousand Jews died in the camps, but this was due to MILLIONS living in them of all ages, and in that population there will be a certain amount of natural deaths. In addition, the whole purpose of the Zyklon B (cyanide compound) even existing there was to fight the spread of Typhus through lice. There were delousing chambers at Auschwitz in which the walls have the famous “Prussian Blue” color produced by cyanide reacting with elements in the materials comprising the walls, and it actually goes all the way through the walls in the acknowledged delousing chambers, where the Germans put all the clothing of those coming into the camps for disinfection. Another factor of death was the total destruction of supply lines by the allies. The Germans couldn’t feed themselves, let alone all the camp prisoners.

    It’s also a strange coincidence that ONLY the camps liberated by Russia (and kept away from inspection by England, the US, etc.) are purported to have “death camps.” All the ones liberated by the other nations were found to be mere workers camps. And never mind the fact that once a human is killed with cyanide gas, their bodies actually become poisonous to the touch, so transporting these bodies would have required an amazing amount of care. Why not just shoot them or drop a bomb on them? Even the Red Cross inspected these camps during the war, and their reports of the conditions there were far from “death camp.” Why have swimming pools, concert halls, soccer fields, brothels, and much more for these people if the plan was merely to butcher them? Not to mention the numbers don’t add up with the crematoria that were available versus the amount of bodies that would have to be burned. Even running 24 hours/day during the full time period these death camps were claimed to be running, such numbers are outrageously impossible. The “Holocaust” was mere war propaganda.

    ANYONE who looks into this issue with an open mind discovers this quite quickly. That is why much of Europe has laws against researching the issue and coming up with anything different than the official narrative. Scholars have been imprisoned for merely doing good historical research. It is truly a scandal.

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC, Jim H
  147. @Ghali

    Standard procedure. Detectives ask:
    Where’s the murder weapon?
    Where did you hide the body?
    Where’s the evidence?
    Why dja do it?
    Who are you working with?

    And lawyers ask: Qui bono? (Who benefits?)

    Wholly burnt or hollow hoax, that is the question.

  148. In my opinion the ‘Holocaust’ ought to be taught as one of numerous crimes committed during WW2. The mass murders of Soviet citizens, Soviet POWs, Roma, Sinti, Poles, southern Slavs, Chinese etc, must be mentioned, too. One of the pretty plain methods of the Holocaust Industry is to assert, or heavily imply, that only Jews suffered, or that only Jewish suffering matters. Goy Lives Matter, too.
    And, while they’re at it, a brief survey of other ‘Holocausts’, the mass killing of the Indigenous in the New Worlds, the various slave trades, the Great Famines in India under the English, the Herrero, the Armenians, Pontic Greeks, Assyrians etc, too numerous to number, would be in order. The attempt to make the ‘Holocaust’ a de facto State pseudo-religion in the West, and thereby the Jews a semi-Divine people, is odious. In fact I believe it actually insults the victims, particularly when they are used as an excuse for Israel’s own grotesque crimes against humanity. And for pity’s sake, such ‘studies’ must be kept for senior students-inflicting such horrors on young minds is simply child psychological and spiritual abuse.

  149. @Arthur MacBride

    A New, New Pearl Harbor? Or a New 9/11?

  150. @Trinity

    What would Eastern Europeans claim ‘compensation’ for? Free, or near free, housing, education, health, transport etc? A degree of social solidarity, in contrast to the ‘society of sharp elbows’? Cheap, subsidised, energy supplies? High culture, cheap and subsidised? I suspect that bigoted lunatics like ‘Trinity’ were locked up, too, and not polluting society.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  151. @Craig Nelsen

    The diagram is full of mistakes. German Nationalists is misspelled as “German Nazis”, a Jewish racist slur. Jews started the second world war, and many European countries piled in against Germany. Killing soldiers in those armies is not murder. The title is wrong, “mass murders” is incorrect. The thickness of the line suggests that about 4,000,000 Jews were killed by German National Socialists; do you have any evidence?

  152. HbutnotG says:
    @Fourth Horseman

    They didn’t say that 6 million Jews were gassed. It was 6 million lice! Open your ears!

    • LOL: Hal Womack
  153. HbutnotG says:
    @Mulegino1

    They meant 6 million lice.

    • LOL: Mulegino1
  154. HbutnotG says:
    @Trinity

    The Jews’ biggest mistake was not letting Hitler into their art school in Vienna. He never got over that. The rest is…history.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  155. https://www.bitchute.com/video/4UEfrxWmMTbv/

    Great interview with Ron on the Holocaust.

    • Thanks: John Wear
  156. Trinity says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Stay out of the White man’s bidness, fish breath dog eater. And stay out of Australia as well.

  157. @Observator

    Well put. WW2 was a lesson to the world which demonstrated what would befall any nation which sought to become Juden Frei–free of the Jews. All the might of USA, Britain and Soviet Union was brought to bear on this one nation which had the temerity to seek to create a state in which their native people could go about their business unmolested by Jewish interference. For this its cities had to be pulverized, its transportation system mangled and its people murdered, raped and starved by the millions. The most civilized, advanced and evolved nation on earth was smashed to smithereens. It is still, 75 years later, occupied by our invading troops. The message sent was, if the USA and England were willing to do this, at the behest of their Jewish Overlords, to their Germanic cousins then they would have no problem doing it to you.

    This provided the template which the USA has utilized since in its dealings with each succeeding “Hitler”. The Hague Tribunal and Geneva Convention be damned; destroy as much civilian infrastructure and murder as many ordinary citizens as it takes till they cry “Uncle”.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  158. Trinity says:
    @HbutnotG

    Jews have no right even being associated with art. haha. Ever seen some of Fran Taubman’s “art?” About the same quality “art” as depicted in Hunter Biden’s finger paintings.

    That was another J lie about Hitler being a poor artist. That dude had talent so I have no idea how people could believe that bullshit when all one had to do is look at some of Hitler’s work.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @HbutnotG
  159. GioCon says:

    The same refusal to debate, the dodgy history, and the questionable data can be seen in today’s Black Lives Matter/woke/gender movement. In place of debate, these people impose censorship, word restrictions, and forced thought patterns. Their “history” is completely manufactured, biased and yet, not to be questioned for fear of being labeled a racist, transphobe or white supremacist. And the statistics they rely on are all smoke and mirrors. For example: the few black deaths at the hands of cops may be “disproportionate” to their percent of the population (13%), but that’s the wrong comparison. What they ignore is black involvement in violent crime (39% by the latest FBI report). So a fraction of that 13% commits 39% of the violent crime in this country. The “systemic racism” narrative and the transphobe narrative, like the holocaust narrative, serve a useful purpose to certain groups. Elite blacks are making millions off this narrative from the books, workshops, and celebrity status. Elite trans folks are taking over the media with their censorship and bullying tactics. But a huckster is a huckster, and eventually these narratives will be exposed for the perverse ideologies thay are.

    • Replies: @Hal Womack
  160. @Mevashir

    Damn good comment.

    It was sometime in the 1980’s when I read that the group responsible for the most terrorist attacks in the previous fifty years was the Jews. Bombings in Palestine and such. I believe this ranking still holds since 9/11 must be attributed to them as well.

    And it strikes me that the leading Jews are the most violent people on Earth. They seen unable to exist without engaging in war on someone somewhere. That they chose Palestine to settle in, a place in which eternal strife was guaranteed, tells us something. And, as many Jewish statements have made plain, where there is no strife, they will create it in the form of a galvanizing event. They seem to have retained a sort of barbarian, Bronze age, Old Testament, Mafia-family type syndicate racket approach to life. In contrast, Europeans are peaceful, rule-oriented people, the Scandinavian and Germans especially, which is why they are relatively helpless against the aggressive, violent Jews, who will stop at nothing and use all means, fair and foul, to achieve their ends.

    Of course, this interpretation flies in the face of the narrative espoused by the Jews themselves, but that’s to be expected. Saying the opposite of the truth and holding to that is what they do, their stick. To brazenly lie is a sort of violence against other people in itself.

    • Agree: Marcion
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  161. Ron Unz says:
    @Ron Unz

    Someone highlighted a segment of a long interview I’d done after my article that got posted on Bitchute:



    Video Link

    And here’s the entire thing in mp3 format:


    • Thanks: Jefferson Temple, Nancy
    • Replies: @Johan
  162. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Of course the Holocaust is a fake (industry\$\$\$) IT doesnt stand acdemic/scholarly/scientific research thats why they have PROHIBITED all research on the Holocaust…IT wnet from antisemitism is ANY all issues that refer to jewishzioisraeli narrative…Even Jerusalem Post reported that sveral names on the Holocaust Survivors list were fake, aome were the names of pets, fictional individuals..cashing on Holocaust Taxes…reparations…

  163. Mevashir says:
    @ThreeCranes

    In contrast, Europeans are peaceful, rule-oriented people, the Scandinavian and Germans especially, which is why they are relatively helpless against the aggressive, violent Jews, who will stop at nothing and use all means, fair and foul, to achieve their ends.

    Thank you for your kind words. I take no pleasure however and having to write these kinds of things.

    A number of years ago I corresponded with an elderly German man living in Canada named Gunter Wild. He has since passed away. He was one of the first people to patiently try to educate me about Revisionism. He would write over and over that the Germans are too nice a people to ever have committed the atrocities alleged against them by Jewish extortion groups.

    [MORE]

    Since then I have watched a lot of German folk music on YouTube and have come to appreciate the beauty of that culture. At first I couldn’t accept what Gunter was claiming to me, but now I consider it a plausible assertion.

    According to the book HUMAN SMOKE , written by an American poet who explored the run-up to world war ii, the worst perpetrator of war crimes and atrocities in that war was Winston Churchill:

    • Replies: @anonymous
  164. @BADmejr

    That has an excellent collection of historical research in the form of an online journal with many well educated researchers.

    No, it doesn’t.

    Rudolf Hess: Wronged Prisoner of Peace

    Pearl Harbor: No Surprise to America’s Devil-in-Chief

    Charles Lindbergh: Wronged American Hero

    The Global-Warming/Climate-Change Hoax

    The Genocide of Captive German Soldiers

    Roosevelt Conspired to Start World War II in Europe

    Example titles from the site. Perhaps the stories about the Allied fire-bombings were reasonable, but after seeing the titles and ‘teaser text’ of the rest I was in no mood to examine them.

    The only article I actually opened was the one blaming Stalin for the starvation of Russian POWs. As expected, it was pure garbage.

    The site won’t be getting a bookmark on my computer.

    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @Curle
  165. fnn says:

    Cole says this manufactured crisis was likely a set-up aka “work” designed to emasculate the anti-anti-white racism bill (HB3979) that the Gov signed into law in Sept. The school bureaucrat who made the “both sides” comment is the district Diversity and Inclusion officer in charge of spreading Wokism in all its manifestations.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/both-sides-now-in-the-key-of-auschwitz/

    The media’s also been rather cagey about Gina Peddy, the admin who made the “both sides” comment. Turns out she’s the district’s “diversity and inclusion” commissar, responsible for “cultural competence,” “hiring indicators that measure personal commitment to equity and inclusion,” “diverse instructional materials,” “books where all students feel they’re represented,” “culturally responsive teaching,” and a host of other woke programs.

    Peddy ain’t no ig’nant hick who’d ever seriously suggest that her teachers need to teach “both sides” of the Holocaust. She knows better, and she knew what she was doing when she uttered the infamous “opposing perspectives” line.

  166. @mcohen

    mcohen, be careful: to question the six-million number is to deny the Holocaust. Go on, wally, visit your nearest Holocaust Museum and refresh your memory. It’s 6,000,000.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  167. @flyingputer

    It is much worse than that. It is bogus. Can anyone prove or demonstrate the 6-million number? Shall we say to within +-600,000? It’s not just questionable, it is pulled out of thin air.

    The Jews have accused the German of murdering 6,000,000. Where is the evidence?

  168. @Craig Nelsen

    I see nothing on that graphic about the 4 million Indians starved to death in one year by the Brutish war criminal Winston Churchill in the Great Bengal Famine of 1943-44.

    A certain allegedly Indian citizen commentator here, who is a cheerleader of the Brutish colonial exploitation of India, can be expected to jump up and down like a rabid holoock gibbon claiming that

    1. Either the famine didn’t happen (it totally did), or
    2. If it did, the Brutish were innocent of causing it (they totally were, diverting food to Europe, allegedly for Greece), and
    3. It was a good thing because most of those killed were Bengalis, whom this person has a racial animosity against.

  169. @Badger Down

    Actually the World Jewish Council in 1945 put the figure as 4 to 4.5 million. It was later increased to 6 million for greater effect.

  170. Robjil says:
    @ThreeCranes

    The message sent was, if the USA and England were willing to do this, at the behest of their Jewish Overlords, to their Germanic cousins then they would have no problem doing it to you.

    Ironically or “in your face” by our rulers, D-day was code named Operation Overlord. It started on the 6th hour, 6th day and 6th month of 1944. The invasion began with 6s. After WWII, a huge big 6 number, that is the 6 million number would touted as the new state religion by our Overlords. It would the mandated religion for all the peoples of the world. No questions are allowed. It is mandated. A bit like Covid vaccines are mandated now in many places, no questions are allowed.

    https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/d-day

    Codenamed Operation Overlord, the battle began on June 6, 1944, also known as D-Day

    By dawn on June 6, thousands of paratroopers and glider troops were already on the ground behind enemy lines, securing bridges and exit roads. The amphibious invasions began at 6:30 a.m.

    destroy as much civilian infrastructure and murder as many ordinary citizens as it takes till they cry

    This is the exactly what Golem USA and friends has been doing everywhere they go. The “Seven Nations to Destroy” is the stated theme for Golem USA and its friends wars after nine eleven. Why isn’t our ?free? press calling out our government for saying that it chooses such a theme and religious theme one too?

    The “Seven Nations to Destroy” theme is from the Torah. It is the same theme that created the first Israel of the Torah. The six million theme of the H protects our Overlords from all criticisms no matter how vile their actions are.

  171. John Wear says:
    @Zachary Smith

    I wrote all of the articles you listed above. If you ever decide to read any of them, I will be glad to answer all of your questions or criticisms.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  172. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    So why do they send people to jail in Europe for questioning the number ?

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
  173. @GioCon

    The Jew balabatim have split American blacks by A) Assassinating their genuine leaders like Malcolm X, MLK, Fred Hampton, Carl Hampton (Houston), ~100 other regional Black Panther Party leaders and B) By imprisoning another ~million and C) Buying off venal collaborators like Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Lloyd Austin et al.

    Our host blood Jew Ron Unz serves the basic & ancient Yid strategic purpose of Rivide & Dule by doing his damndest to set whites against blacks, thereby fracturing the basic interest of our honorable NAGIM [Normal, Alias “Gentile”, IMmensity] against the tiny Tribal minority dominating JAPE [“JewAmerican Planetary Empire”]. NAG David Koresh OTOH had as his closest advisor Douglas Wayne Martin, one of the first black graduates of Harvard Law School. Look how well they did, eh what? Such salt & pepper unity creates an HVT for the Yids from the likes of Chuck Schumer to our own Unz here.

    For his labors in the fiendish cause of promoting strife among ordinary rainbow folk, does Ron deserves a hot date with his cult cousin Admiral (****) Rachel (nee Richard) Levine?

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  174. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    INTERESTING THAT RON UNZ IS ACTUALLY NOT CENSORING POSTS LIKE THIS ADRESSING THE ISSUE DIRECTLY.

    But is not a white Jewish issue but yet a capitalist issue and as such it not only whites up against it but all ordinary people of the world regardless of skin color but entirely consistent with social class affiliation

    Financial exploitation has been exhausted. There is no more to go looting the planet in that way…rather it is coming to an end

    Then again technological advance is making work for humans redundant passing it over to robots. Ordinary people are useless systematically or will soon be so leaving us with one option…take over and place the stage at the service of the majority eliminating the minority power

    the Chinese and Russians are well on their way to people power, have the stage working in the interest of the people not just their rich minorities. Those inside the Russian/Chinese orbit have a chance at socialism. Outside of it we have Covid depopulation and tyrannical hell for all

    The white man and woman, and the rest of ordinary people in the world, even ordinary Jews, all have the same problem: the Jewish capitalist zillionaires

    • Agree: JamesinNM, Derer
  175. Johan says:
    @david s

    “CHANNEL RESTRICTED

    The parent channel of this video is unavailable at your location due to the following restrictions:
    Contains Holocaust Denial
    Contains Incitement to Hatred”

    Out here in Belgium… also through my German IP (no surprise)

  176. @anon

    Most excellent observations, 388. The Enemy Within is not just Jewish, it is hydra-headed, but all its brains exist to suck the life-blood from every living thing.

  177. Johan says:
    @Ron Unz

    CHANNEL RESTRICTED

    The parent channel of this video is unavailable at your location due to the following restrictions:
    Contains Holocaust Denial
    Contains Incitement to Hatred

    Please see the Community Guidelines for more details. If this is your content then please check the Visibility tab for more specific information on this restriction.

    In Belgium and Germany (no doubt also in The Netherlands).
    They did forget to block the mp3 though.

  178. @saggy

    I’ve searched for “the holocaust big lie” video, but can’t find it. Could you supply a link?

    • Replies: @saggy
  179. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    It was the last of the Great Famines under English rule that tormented India. They were unknown before the English, and since. ‘Western Moral Values’ at their finest.

  180. JamesinNM says:

    Truth can withstand the most rigorous scrutiny, but a lie cannot.

  181. @John Wear

    I returned to that site and examined The Global-Warming/Climate-Change Hoax

    What I found confirmed my suspicion that the two of us live on different worlds.

    In reality, the increasing CO2 level is providing positive benefits to our planet.

    “Positive benefits” on your world don’t relate to the faltering Earth I inhabit.

    In my world Adolph Hitler was not a man of peace.

    Any discussions between the two of us would be pointless, for the words we use may be English, but they don’t have the same meanings.

    I’ve spent some time looking at Mr. Giraldi’s works in the archives. Back in 2008-09 he was a very, very different writer, and I found nothing remotely crazy in the articles he wrote then. With his penning of this one he assumes responsibility for the “stuff” being dredged up in the comments, and I believe it’s time to go “cold turkey” with the man.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  182. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    I don’t believe there was a World Jewish Council (World Jewish Congress?) nor that in 1945 they put the figure at 4 million. Where is your proof?

  183. RestiveUs says:
    @Joe Levantine

    The question is how to teach history in a way that enhances a person’s critical thinking.

    Expand that to include “every subject”, and you’ve hit the nail on the head!

  184. fnn says:
    @Badger Down

    Here’s a vid of Hitler telling the Germans to kill all the Jews, or at least 6,000,000 of them.

    Every mainstream Holocaust historian will tell you the Holocaust was a state secret.

    • Replies: @Anon
  185. @mcohen

    Maybe we could learn the number of victims if we were to consult the accounts of WW2 written after the war by Churchill, DeGaulle and Eisenhower. Unfortunately, however, although their books add up to a total of roughly 7,000 pages, something called “the Holocaust” is never mentioned. This seems like a curious oversight.

  186. Trinity says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Who was Adolph? Might help if you spell the dude’s name right, yo.

    It is your world, playa, the rest of us are just trying to get a nut. Silly rabbit, trix are for kids. Being in your world is like corn flakes without the milk.

    Cue: The Rain by Oran “Juice” Jones

    • Replies: @Games of Disfunction
  187. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    Where is our Frannie? Did she escape to J’lem?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  188. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    Some say that 10% of the global Hispanic population of 600 million souls is of Jewish extraction

    And what % is of Moorish?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  189. @Schuetze

    There is a first step we could take to remedy the slander and lies about the third reich. How about a nice boycott of german goods and services till their gov’t behaves like a normal civilzed nation. Putting a ninety year old lady in prison because they dislike the way she describes historical events would be good starter.You could easily shame and a hold a gov’t that does that up to world ridicule.Believe me it would get results.They would think twice before doing it again. If the dusselldorf industrialists knew that they would lose some geldt ,germany would take note.

  190. In 1944 William H. Lawrence was a reporter travelling with the Red Army in Poland when a concentration camp named Maidenak was captured. The “August 1944” file is a newspaper article telling about the camp.

    https://ufile.io/mxx4sxnw

    The tiny “April 1948” selection was chopped out of an article titled “Trials of War Criminals (Non-Nuremberg)”. The Brits tried and executed a couple of fellows for selling thousands of pounds of Zyklon B per month to the SS for the purpose of murder.

    https://ufile.io/t2wfto5u

  191. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:

    Best Point she could make to poke the uncaring to hopefully see the flaws of the CRT crazys about teaching “alternative Black history”

  192. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @fnn

    Yeah and every contemporary witness will tell you, they known it anyway.
    So fuck the historians with this little detail.

  193. 3,000,000 Red Army soldiers were murdered by Germany in camps by starvation. British aircrew and soldiers were murdered at Auschwitz

    These are rarely mentioned

  194. anon[506] • Disclaimer says:

    it is interesting that there has been successful revisionism of the yezhovshchina. it’s body count had previously been exaggerated for capitalist propaganda reasons and the lack of access to soviet archives.

    the same will be true of the soviet body count of ww ii, which has been exaggerated by the soviets and the russians for propaganda reasons and by others because it makes the nazis look even worse.

    one mass murder event which one never hears about is that of ethnic germans in the soviet sphere immediately following the war. it could’ve been 2m.

    the idea that stalin’s body count was 50m and the nazis killed 20m soviets for a total of 70m is…

    NOT believable. not to me anyway.

    • Agree: aspnaz
  195. @BADmejr

    “ANYONE who looks into this issue with an open mind discovers this quite quickly. That is why much of Europe has laws against researching the issue and coming up with anything different than the official narrative. Scholars have been imprisoned for merely doing good historical research. It is truly a scandal.”

    Damn straight.

    If the “Holocaust” is everything it’s said to be, it should withstand the most searching questions and criticism. And if it isn’t . . . well, it should be relegated to the shithole of history. . . .

  196. Anonymous[970] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man

    Now I know that the thinnest book ever written is the one about Jewish war heroes, but ya gotta think some died with their Slavic hosts in combating the German war machine.

    Don’t forget about the Jews in the SS and the upper ranks of the Nazi Party.

  197. saggy says: • Website
    @Badger Down

    Link to big lie vid … remove = https://www.bitchute.com=/video/ Ul72dV4SbAoh/

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  198. Derer says:
    @Wally

    I read about one particular case in Canada, Alberta where a high school teacher went to jail for including Holocaust Industry in a negative way in his curriculum. Some indoctrinated simpleminded parents pull the plug on him. I guess the fools were satisfied with the fabricated lies to be fed to their children about that historical event.

  199. Derer says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    You got it wrong. The German POWs were kept in camps without shelter, in mud and without food by British and American sadistic keepers. You do not read about this atrocity in their textbooks.

  200. @Paul Greenwood

    A person commenting on this page has an article up at his site declaring that it wasn’t the Nice Nazis who murdered the Russian POWs – it was Stalin.

  201. Something for Mr. Giraldi – a 1945 tale about the Nice Nazis. Since gas chambers are Highly Questionable, this story is surely a fantasy:

    These people had to undress themselves in the court of the crematorium and were promised a bath and hot coffee afterwards. They were given orders to put their things on one side and all the valuables on the other. Then they entered a big hall and were told to wait until the gas arrived. Five or ten minutes later the gas arrived, and the strongest insult to a doctor and to the idea of the Red Cross was that it came in a Red Cross ambulance.

    Now if this had actually happened, wouldn’t it have been very thoughtful of the Führer’s Friendly camp people? The harmless gas which was going to de-louse them showed up in a freaking Red Cross ambulance.

    http://www.bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/trial/trial/trialprosecutioncase/Trial_022_Bendel.html

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  202. It really serves no purpose going over facts that can be disputed one way or another, and cannot be decided one way or another, any two different people can witness the same event and when interviewed come up with two different narratives.

    Look at the scamdemic two sides of the story quoting facts at each other…has it changed the trajectory of how the state acts?

    Its the exercise of power that is the real issue in world history, those who have the power and those who are victims of that power for one reason or another.

    Don’t get sucked into the vortex of innate argument, focus on how you want power to serve the current humanity, how do you want power structured? At the moment we still have a pyramid where the majority are victims of the few.

  203. @Paul Greenwood

    Poor little commie cannon fodders!!!!
    Best let my daughters get raped by pakis for German “war crimes”!

    Lol

    Every single one of you derserve this situation.

  204. @anon

    Huwhite goyim and assorted kike lovers of the (((west))) are not deserving of National Socialism.

    They can get fucked.

  205. Anon[515] • Disclaimer says:
    @Eileen

    Unfortunately — notwithstanding the support that she had received from worldwide Jewry — Germany lost the war and

    Aren’t you aware that top-tier Jewry heavily pushed the USA to step into World War I, shifting decisively its outcome, though?

  206. meamjojo says:

    Why Not Question “the Holocaust” in Schools?

    Because you don’t question FACTS. D’oh.

    • LOL: RoatanBill
  207. @Francis Miville

    I CALL BULLSHIT Francis Miville.

    This is an excellent article on the Anne Frank HOAX. I had no idea just how professional, learned, and scholarly the real author was. IT WAS A PRODUCTION. IT WAS MEANT FOR BROADWAY.

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t664880/

    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  208. aspnaz says:

    Show me a single picture of a Jew being gassed in the chambers, or being pulled out of the chambers … go on, just one!

    All narratives are about conning people to get advantage … Holocaust is still the gold standard, Covid may overtake.

    • Agree: John Wear
  209. All are invited to send their view on the desecration of the site of the worlds’ first modern concentration camp. So, where is the Guiness Record on this invention? The modern concentration camp with barbed wire and DC electricity was invented in 1914, built, operated, dismantled and now totally denied by the federal government of Canada and all levels of government.

    On October 29, at 9;30 am the paperwork to permanently desecrate with a hotel this potential UNESCO world heritage site is to be voted on by the local Board of Governors of Exhibition Place of the City of Toronto.
    All readers can send in comments by e-mail or deputize by zoom. Invented here over 100 years back, the Canadian technology was transferred to Bolshevik, Nazi and other regimes. Obviously a focus of many, especially on this site.

    Meant to primarily round up Ukrainian-Canadians in Toronto, the invention successfully worked as the federal Canadian Army rounded up Ukrainian-Canadians for near slave labour purposes in the north.

    [MORE]

    It is legal to deny the existence of Canadian concentration camps in Canada. No law exists to protect this concentration camp site from proposed legal desecration. What reader out there would dare propose this blatent desecration in Poland, Germany, etc? A hotel on top of Auschwitz, Belgan;Belsan, etc: try that desecration type talk out there in Europe. But desecration is quite legal in Canada: nothing prevents desecration talk in smug Toronto. Toronto, holds the worlds record in length of time of Concentration Camp denying.

    The code word for deniers in Canada is “Internment Camp”. No planner, lawyer, academic, socialist dares to speak about this on the MSM or submit a deputation against this proposed legal desecration of the former site.

    Where are all those smug Canadian lawyers or citizens always seen around the world virtue signalling or instructing local society about Toronto the Good? Certainly not worried about the lack of international law or concentration camp preservation standards being applied inside of Canada.

    Please inform yourself, all your friends, collaborators and opponents of the nature of this legal “Hotel X” development threat to this unique Potential UNESCO world heritage site.

    Do not dismiss the fact that strong forces exist that support, if not demand the eradication of any trace of this federal Canadian Government concentration camp. Prime Minister Trudeau still holds title to much of this Federal Fort land. But, you find out what Prime Minister Trudeau will do! Perhaps exactly what his father did? Or, possibly institute new legal zoning or Canadian federal law that conforms to law in European states.

    Remember the first victims, Ukrainian-Canadians who died in this Toronto camp, unknown, uncounted, perhaps unburied. Yes, followed by millions of victims in the same technology later tragically applied in Europe, Siberia, etc.
    This is 2021 and the tragedy unfolds now.

    • Replies: @grettir
  210. I have always said, the HOLOHOAX is the Achilles’ heel of Zionism. Expose this Hoax and Israel DIES. This is why it is so very very important to maintain this MYTH. US History is written by the Jews.

    All the power of the Jew comes from the sympathy and continued support of the Christian. America has been brainwashed for 75 Years.

    Early Revisionists were Acid Attacked by Zionist thugs; held to the ground by five Jews, your arms pinned to the ground and acid slowly poured on your face. Your entire face melted off.

    Never underestimate the brutality of the Jews. Know your Enemy. Never forget the sadistic tortures and murders of the Cheka. The same evil operates in Palestine today.

    The same evil can be unleashed in America and covered up and sanitized by Jew-owned media.

    If the Holocaust was ever seriously challenged in America, you would see a wave of murders. The Jews would activate their Mossad cells in America and assassinations would commence. Top-level Revisionists would be eliminated. The brightest and most articulate would be executed. None of the murders would even make the nightly news.

    The Holocaust is the only thing Uniting the Jewish race. It is their Psychological Psy-Ops carried out on each new Jewish generation, programing them to hate all of humanity and continue to support Israel. Without the Holocaust, Jewish world domination would not be achievable. They know this…it is their lifeblood.

    I don’t see any way to defeat the Jews except annihilation.

    I pray for the day when someone detonates a nuclear bomb inside Israel. Imagine that entire speck of country being flattened in an instant. Turned into a barren wasteland, irradiated like the Bikini Islands. Uninhabitable for 500 years. Millions experiencing a true Holocaust. What would the Jews do then?????? Biblical prophecy didn’t see that one coming. Imagine dropping the Tsar Bomba on Israel ; Thats 3,800 Hiroshima Bombs in one big bastard of Nuke. There would be nothing left.

    https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

    “Tsar Bomba (RDS-220 hydrogen bomb) – 50Mt
    The RDS-220 hydrogen bomb, also known as the Tsar Bomba, is the biggest and most powerful thermo nuclear bomb ever made. It was exploded by the Soviet Union on 30 October 1961 over Novaya Zemlya Island in the Russian Arctic Sea.

    The hydrogen bomb was air dropped by a Tu-95 bomber using huge fall-retardation parachute. The detonation occurred 4km above the ground producing a yield of 50Mt, which is believed to be equivalent to the explosive power from the simultaneous detonation of 3,800 Hiroshima bombs.

    Tsar Bomba contained three stages, unlike normal thermonuclear weapons that explode in just two stages. While the addition of third stage increased the explosive power of the thermonuclear, the bomb’s actual yield of 100Mt was reduced by 50% to limit radioactive dust.”

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  211. Zumbuddi says:
    @Tucker

    WRMEA hosted several conferences discussing disproportionate influence of “the Jewish lobby.”

    At one of the earliest ones, 5 or 7 years ago, a kind of unhinged woman in the audience said something like, Holocaust education in public schools should be challenged.

    Panelist Jeff Blankfort responded first, “lids should het more education in killing of Native Americans.”
    (My opinion: took the air out of the woman’s comment. Not much diff. from intro of CRY to divert from Israel crimes.)

    Then panelist Phil Weiss weighed in: “That’s despicable. ” and “teaching Anne Frank should not be problematized.’

    Don’t remember what Panelist Jason Raimondo said, but it was not an endorsement of the audience person’s viewpoint, she was hung out there on her own —-
    Until moderator Scott Horton shut her down.

    Point is, (are) — Jews STILL control the narrative even at those very rare intelligent critical gatherings.
    AND those supposedly “objective” and free-speech supporting Jews are no different , in the essentials, than ADL.

    AND non-Jews too readily succumb to tendency to support the Jewish narrative, even if it means eating their own.

    Most of these panelists have been invited back to WRMEA conferences.

    Imo WRMEA is great, courageous, fully support.

  212. John Wear says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    You write: “3,000,000 Red Army soldiers were murdered by Germany in camps by starvation.”

    My response: You can read my article on this subject at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/11/2/6733.
    I also write about this in the first section of Chapter Ten of my book “Germany’s War.” My book is available on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

    You write: “British aircrew and soldiers were murdered at Auschwitz.”

    My response: I think you are referring to the Sagan prisoner of war incident. I write the following about this incident in Chapter Ten of my book “Germany’s War”:

    “Stalag Luft III was a Luftwaffe-run prisoner of war camp during World War II located near the Lower Silesia town of Sagan. The camp is best known for an attempted prisoner escape that took place there by tunneling. On March 24, 1944, on a moonless night 76 Allied prisoners escaped from the camp to initial freedom. However, 73 of the 76 escaping prisoners were later captured by the Germans. Hitler initially wanted all recaptured prisoners to be shot as an example to other prisoners not to attempt an escape from the camp. German military leaders argued against executions as being a violation of the Geneva Convention. Hitler eventually ordered Heinrich Himmler to execute 50 of the recaptured prisoners.

    The Sagan incident was one of the German war crimes tried at the Nuremberg trials. British prosecutor David Maxwell Fyfe effectively cross-examined Hermann Goering about the execution of the 50 Allied airmen who had escaped from Sagan prison camp. Goering could not deny that their execution was a violation of the Geneva Convention.”

    • Replies: @HdC
  213. Eileen says:
    @Mevashir

    The reason why Hitler built so many death camps in Poland in the middle of WWII was that (a) most of the world’s Jews at that time happened to live in Poland, which had given them sanctuary several centuries earlier (when every other country in Europe was expelling them) and (b) after invading eastern Poland (which had been under Soviet occupation) he suddenly “inherited” a huge number of Jewish subjects whom he had no intention of sparing. Auschwitz itself was initially built to decimate Polish Christian elites — another much bigger camp was added there much later in order to “cater” for Polish Jews.

    As all this happened in Poland, it’s a good idea to listen to what reputable Polish historians have to say about all this (which isn’t so easy, given the might of the Zionist propaganda machine). No one in Poland questions the fact that the Germans managed to kill several million Polish Jews (as well as several million Polish Christians and several million Jews from other parts of Europe) during WWII. The exact numbers are still a matter of debate, but they really were huge. The murders were on an industrial scale and there’s no lack of evidence for them (though it still helps to know Polish!).

    • Agree: Jeffrey A Freeman
    • Disagree: Petermx
    • Thanks: RobinG
    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @Mevashir
    , @Zumbuddi
  214. Petermx says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    The facts belie the propaganda you have been fed. This is a review of a new book from the Norwegian academic Johannes Due Enstad. Eastern European authors are writing similar books.

    “Many Russians hoped that Hitler would free them from Stalin.” “Ethnic Russians were much less loyal to the Soviet regime in their encounters with the German occupiers than historians have believed up to now.”

    “Something that happened in December 1941, six months after the start of the German occupation, illustrates the positive reaction quite well. During that time people from some of the small villages collected several thousand woolen socks, mittens and felt boots as Christmas gifts for the German soldiers.”

    https://www.hf.uio.no/ilos/english/research/news-and-events/news/2018/many-russians-hoped-that-hitler-would-free-them-fr.html

    By contrast, allied soldiers (primarily Soviet, but British and American too) gang raped 2 million German women as they entered Germany, with Soviet propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg encouraging the Soviet soldiers to rape. Also by contrast, German soldiers were forbidden by army regulations from raping under the threat of the death penalty.

    • Thanks: Angharad
  215. @Badger Down

    Its much worse than bogus. ALL our wars are from “the jew”s lies and machinations. In quotes because “the jew” comprises many non jews. Few if any jews are not of “the jew”.
    My “opinion” is the 110th must be from life not a few countries to others for “the jew”s to infect and start their perfidy again. I see humanity growing up into Adulthood when we open our eyes and see “the jew” for what t.h.e.y. (T=the H=hebrews E=enslaving Y=you) are and kill every last one who comprises “the jew” wholesale. Exactly as George Herbert Walker Bush said we WILL when we realize what t.h.e.y. have done. Then we destroy all “the jew” has conned us is required for social interaction. That gets into what all see as responsible but is in fact the opposite.

    Its time for the hunt! Openly, in the streets and with the greatest prejudice. I hope this gets my “opinion” across. “Our goal is to win ultimate control of the wealth, natural resources and manpower of the entire world.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    [MORE]

    “If my son’s did not WANT wars there would be NONE”. Gutle Schnaper Rothschild wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild on her deathbed 1849

    “Wars should be directed so that the nations engaged on both sides should be further in our debt.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Remember my children, that all the earth must belong to us Jews, and that the gentiles, being mere excrement’s of animals, must possess nothing.” ~ Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812

    “The use of any and all means to achieve our final goal is justified. The ruler who governs by the moral code is not a skilled politician because he leaves himself vunerable and in an unstable position.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “We were the first to put Liberty, Equality and Fraternity into the mouths of the masses, which set up a new aristocracy. The qualification of this aristocracy is WEALTH, which is dependent on us.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Candidates for public office should be servile and obedient to our commands so that they may readily be used.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Panics and financial depressions would ultimately result in World Government, a new order of one world government.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “The overwhelming majority of American Rabbis regard Zionism not only as fully consistent with Judaism but as a logical expression and implementation of it.”— Document released on November 20, 1942 signed by 818 American Rabbi

    “The US shouldn’t give high clearances to Jews, because when asked to help, we’re willing to do anything for the love of our country, Israel.” — Spy Jonathan Pollard during interrogation by the FBI. Make note that Pollard was born in the US and his spying put America in serious nuclear risk back in the 1980’s.

  216. John Wear says:
    @Eileen

    You write: “The murders were on an industrial scale and there’s no lack of evidence for them (though it still helps to know Polish!).”

    My response: I do not agree with your statement. I don’t know Polish, but if you have any sources in English that prove your statement, please let me know about them.

    • Agree: Mevashir
  217. @Anonymous

    Agreed. The lie so “the jew” is coming apart. World war 3 is “the jew”s only way out and only for a while. Their future is written in their past. Our future is wide open for us to choose. Subjugation under psychopathic judaic parasites so endless lies, wars and sickness or anarchy-national socialism so no living jews or avenues for parasites of any persuasion to exist. 0 welfare. 0 limited liability. 0 qualified immunity. 0 diplomatic immunity. NO immunity at all! ALL 100% responsible for all acts consequential or otherwise. This level or responsibility is what Adults demand and criminals can’t survive in! This is Common Law. With outlaw status!

    [MORE]

    Here are a few claims from “the jew”, the outlaws which tell a small part of the story of why “the jew” must be eradicated, with the greatest prejudice, “Israel won the war [WW I]; we made it; we thrived on it; we profited from it. It was our supreme revenge on Christianity.” (The Jewish Ambassador from Austria to London, Count Mensdorf, 1918)

    “Full Responsibility for the First World War, lies squarely on the shoulders of the International Jewish Bankers. They are responsible for Millions of dead and dying.” – (US. Congressional Record 67th Congress, 4. Sitting, Senate Document nr. 346)

    “We Jews are going to bring war on Germany.”
    — David Brown, President of American Hebrew, in 1934, quoted in Edmonson’s I Testify, page 188.

    “Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred. The goal of Judaism of today is: a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation. We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child.” (Jewish professor A. Kulischer, October, 1937)

    “We are not denying and are not afraid to confess that this war is our war and that it is waged for the liberation of Jewry… Stronger than all fronts together is our front, that of Jewry. We are not only giving this war our financial support on which the entire war production is based, we are not only providing our full propaganda power which is the moral energy that keeps this war going. The guarantee of victory is predominantly based on weakening the enemy forces, on destroying them in their own country, within the resistance. And we are the Trojan horses in the enemy’s fortress. Thousands of Jews living in Europe constitute the principal factor in the destruction of our enemy. There, our front is a fact and the most valuable aid for victory.”- Chaim Weizmann, President of the World Jewish Congress, Head of the Jewish Agency and later President of Israel, in a Speech on December 3, 1942, in New York.

    “What thrust us into war were not Hitler’s political teachings: the cause, this time, was his successful attempt to establish a new economy. The cause of the war were: envy, greed and fear.” J.F.C. Fuller

    “Germany’s unforgivable crime before the second world war,” Churchill said,” was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit.” (Churchill to Lord Robert Boothby, quoted in the Foreword, 2nd Ed. Sydney Rogerson, Propaganda in the Next War 2001, orig. 1938.

    “World War II was a Jewish plot to make way for the foundation of the Jewish State in Palestine.” (Joseph Burg [a Jew]).

    “The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the fundamentals of Judaism.”— The Chicago Jewish Sentinel, October 8, 1942.

    “Even if we Jews are not bodily with you in the trenches, we are nevertheless morally with you. THIS IS OUR WAR, (WW 2), AND YOU ARE FIGHTING IT FOR US.” (Les Nouvelles Litteraires, February 10, 1940).

    We [Jews] who have posed as the saviours of the world… we, today, are nothing else but the world’s seducers, its destroyer’s, its incendiaries, its executioners [and I might add the Chief Thieves/Murderers on planet Earth]… We have finally succeeded in landing you into a new hell.” (Jewish Writer, Oscar Levy, The World Significance of the Russian Revolution; The International Jew, Vol. III (1921), pp. 184-87).

    “Our right lies in force. The word RIGHT is an abstract thought and proves nothing. I find a new right…to attack by the right of the strong, to reconstruct all existing institutions, and to become the sovereign lord of all those who left to us the Rights to their powers by laying them down to us in their liberalism” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “The power of our resources must remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can under mine it” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “In order to usurp political power all that was necessary is to preach ‘liberalism” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Give me control of a nations currency and I care not who makes its laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “By clever manipulation of our combined wealth it would be possible to create such adverse economic conditions that the masses would be reduced to a state bordering on starvation by unemployment.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Our goal is to win ultimate control of the wealth, natural resources and manpower of the entire world.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “If my son’s did not WANT wars there would be NONE”. Gutle Schnaper Rothschild wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild on her deathbed 1849

    “Wars should be directed so that the nations engaged on both sides should be further in our debt.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Remember my children, that all the earth must belong to us Jews, and that the gentiles, being mere excrement’s of animals, must possess nothing.” ~ Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812

    “The use of any and all means to achieve our final goal is justified. The ruler who governs by the moral code is not a skilled politician because he leaves himself vunerable and in an unstable position.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “We were the first to put Liberty, Equality and Fraternity into the mouths of the masses, which set up a new aristocracy. The qualification of this aristocracy is WEALTH, which is dependent on us.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Candidates for public office should be servile and obedient to our commands so that they may readily be used.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Panics and financial depressions would ultimately result in World Government, a new order of one world government.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “The overwhelming majority of American Rabbis regard Zionism not only as fully consistent with Judaism but as a logical expression and implementation of it.”— Document released on November 20, 1942 signed by 818 American Rabbi

    “The US shouldn’t give high clearances to Jews, because when asked to help, we’re willing to do anything for the love of our country, Israel.” — Spy Jonathan Pollard during interrogation by the FBI. Make note that Pollard was born in the US and his spying put America in serious nuclear risk back in the 1980’s.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  218. KenH says:

    The holocaust should be questioned in schools, especially colleges and universities, and in the media since the Jews use it as a blood libel against white Europeans and Western Civilization. It ocntinues to be used by diaspora Jewry to extract money and special rights from host nations and Israel to extract billions from the U.S. and Germany and advanced military hardware that the “genius” Jews couldn’t produce on their own..

    Institute for Historical Review (IHR), Counter Currents and some others on the right and pro-white right began backing away from holocaust revisionism years ago because they claimed it wasn’t moving their cause forward. Personally, I’m not sure if that’s true and tend to think their decision was based on securing more funding/donations if they moderated their stance on the holocaust.

    The use of execution gas chambers were debunked by Fred Leuchter and that was the linchpin of the holocaust story. Even if the gas chambers were real it is a humane way to die since the victims don’t suffer and die almost instantly unlike in the Jewish created Soviet Union where people who shot execution style and subjected to torture and other means of murder.

  219. Poco says:

    If you aren’t jewish do what I do. Go on their websites (political, religious, whatever) pretend you are jewish, and pilpul the shit out of them. Fight fire with fire. Infiltrate.
    I’m just one guy but it’s a contribution.

    • Agree: bike-anarkist
  220. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Eric Striker:

    Geoffrey Wheatcroft’s new Winston Churchill biography accurately depicts him as a bumbling criminal who covered his stench with sadism, atrocities and sucking jew dick.

    All Andrew Roberts, a cuck, has in response is to frivolously accuse Wheatcroft of being an anti-Semite.

    https://spectatorworld.com/book-and-art/churchill-shadow-character-assassination/

    https://t.me/EricStrikerTRS/11320

    • Thanks: Trinity
  221. Eileen says:
    @Mevashir

    A little more explanation:

    “Political Correctness” started almost exactly 50 years ago in the wake of the 1967 war in the Middle East. Initially it was “just” a media campaign — a cocktail of slogans aimed at addressing three particular issues: homophobia, racism and antisemitism. And — guess what! — it just happened to coincide with a massive new media campaign on the subject of what was now called the “Holocaust”.

    Being an alien outpost in the Middle East, Israel’s very existence depended and still depends on the political, military and financial support of the West (i.e. the United States and Western Europe), which had to be constantly pressurized into providing this vital aid.

    Hence the need for a compelling narrative — churned out in the form of numerous newspaper articles, lectures, books, films, radio and television programs etc. — that would exert continual moral pressure on Western voters and Western politicians.

    After the Six-Day War in 1967, this narrative crystalized as the “Holocaust” narrative, which can be summed up as follows:

    ‘The extermination of European Jewry during the Second World War was the worst genocide in human history — not only because six million totally innocent Jews were murdered by the Germans, but also because no other nation (including America) tried to prevent it.

    Indeed, there were nations which — like the antisemitic Polish nation — actually welcomed the extermination of the Jews and even took an active part in it.

    Because of centuries of Christian (and in particular Catholic) antisemitism, no one helped the Jews in their hour of need and — even when the war was over — those few Jews who survived continued to face persecution (especially in Poland). Hence the need for a Jewish haven in Palestine.’

    The trouble with this new narrative was that much of it was completely false, the only true element being the fact that the Germans really did manage to murder several million Jews by the time Hitler was defeated by the Allies in 1945.

    However, the only country where the official “Holocaust” narrative couldn’t possibly work was Poland, where most of the German Nazi war crimes were actually committed. Why? Because the Poles knew and remembered too much about what really happened in Poland during WWII and earlier.

    In particular, they remembered that in that half of Poland which was occupied by Hitler’s Soviet ally in September 1939, most of the Jewish population immediately forgot that they were Polish citizens and gladly collaborated with the Russian invaders. Armed Jewish communist militias hunted down retreating Polish soldiers, arrested Polish officials and provided the Russians with lists of Poles to deport to the death camps in Siberia. That is but one Jewish “skeleton in the cupboard”.

    The authors of the new “Holocaust” narrative knew perfectly well that sooner or later it would be questioned by Poles (wherever they lived), so — at the beginning of the 1970s (when memories of the war were fading in the West — and purely as a preventive measure, of course) — they were forced to start a smear campaign against the Polish nation, which the extensive Jewish propaganda machine systematically accused of large-scale complicity in the Nazi extermination of the Jews. In this way, Westerner public opinion was “vaccinated” against the Polish historical narrative.

    To date this fifty-year-old smear campaign has been very successful — so much so, that even politicians such as President Obama have found themselves making public statements about “Polish Death Camps”.

    Any Pole who dares to question the veracity of the official “Holocaust” narrative in the West is thus automatically discredited as an anti-Semite who is trying to deny “well-documented” and “obvious” Polish complicity in German Nazi war crimes.

    This state of affairs cannot go on for ever, of course. As Abraham Lincoln famously remarked, “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”

    Apart from recent signs of inevitable “holocaust fatigue” in the West, at the beginning of 2018 the Polish government itself — to the horror of the Israeli government — took an official stand against attempts to accuse the Polish nation of complicity in German war crimes, thus giving valuable moral support to those historians and journalists (not to mention rapidly increasing numbers of internet users) who can and have been “setting the record straight”.

    Terrified by the all-too-real prospect of several Jewish “skeletons in the cupboard” coming to light (not only in Polish, but now also in English and on an increasing number of internet pages read by users in the United States), in June 2018 the Israeli government hurriedly signed a joint Polish-Israeli Declaration in an effort to “stop provoking the Poles” and to close the discussion which had raged since the beginning of the year. This “peace deal” basically acknowledged the veracity of the Polish historical narrative (maintaining that the wartime Polish underground State and government-in-exile not only had had no hand in the extermination of Jews, but had actively opposed it).

    As the Israeli “Nazi hunter” Efraim Zuroff has candidly observed, the greatest danger to the official “Holocaust” narrative is the fact that East European countries (some of which in June 2018 unlike the underground Polish State, but like German-occupied France in June 2018 did opt for collaboration with the Germans) are now reminding the world that there was “another holocaust” perpetrated by Soviet communists, many of whom were Jews:

    “[…] if Communism is categorized as genocide, it means that Jews committed genocide. Jewish communists were among those who committed the crimes of the Communist regime. If Jews committed genocide, how can we complain […]?”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-holocaust-distortion-poland-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-nazi-hunter-says/

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @RobinG
    , @Eileen
  222. HdC says:
    @John Wear

    Euthanasia program… Applied only in very rare circumstances. And only if the family could not or would not care for that individual. After a public outcry theis practice was stopped. As an aside: Abortion of live babies is OK, right? How many so far in the USA? Over 50 million?

    Medical experiments… From what I read these were conducted with the full knowledge of the subjects, who generally were prisoners. The reward was reduced sentences and release from prison. Contrary to USA practices of experiments on military troops and blacks without their knowledge or consent.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  223. Mevashir says:
    @Eileen

    Thanks for this most comprehensive reply. So if I may summarize your perspective:

    1. Millions of Polish Jews were murdered by the NS
    2. Millions of non-Polish Jews were murdered by the NS
    3. Millions of Polish Christians were murdered by the NS

    Do you concur with the 6 million total for Jewish victims?

    I was going to ask why the “Zionist propaganda machine” would oppose your narrative given that it concurs with their overall claims of 6 million Jewish victims, but from this your second response I guess their objection would be to vindicating Poland from having a hand in the atrocities, correct?

    Ultimately that seems like a relatively minor quibble in the overall narrative, don’t you think? It would seem that Poles and Zionists are largely in agreement about what happened during the Holocaust.

    Did Poland ever demand or receive reparations from Germany over their own suffering? This book by Pope John Paul II documents his own suffering during the war as a Polish university student and presents a façade of complete solidarity with Polish Jews as well: https://www.amazon.com/Letter-Jewish-Friend-Simple-Extraordinary/dp/0824514823

    May I ask what is your expertise/interest in this aspect of Polish history?

    • Replies: @HdC
  224. Mevashir says:
    @Eileen

    No one in Poland questions the fact that the Germans managed to kill several million Polish Jews (as well as several million Polish Christians and several million Jews from other parts of Europe) during WWII. The exact numbers are still a matter of debate, but they really were huge.

    Why don’t the Poles collaborate with Jewish Holocaust historians since their narratives are essentially identical? http://auschwitz.org/en/history/

    Do you dispute the BBC claim that Auschwitz initially served primarily as a depot for the two million Russian POWs captured during Barbarossa?
    https://www.amazon.com/Auschwitz/dp/B089BVSNYB
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdp5o5V2suK3PIXaE7Cwe0MoA75VJJTc6

    • Replies: @Eileen
  225. RobinG says:
    @Eileen

    German-occupied France in June 2018

    2018 ??

    • Replies: @Eileen
    , @Catdompanj
  226. @Curmudgeon

    Hitler was mildly socialist, but unquestionably nationalist. The NS emphasized that their programme was a German solution to German problems and not for export. The greatest sin of NS Germany was poking the Bank of International Settlements in the eye, by trading commodity for commodity with other countries, whenever possible.

    Best comment. It conforms to what I try to explain, but most who gather here and fancy they are the Internet’s finest, intellectually speaking, are not interested in such ideas that end the “debate”. They want to keep up the farce that there are many ways to look at Hitler–my opinion is as good as yours!

    Now, you replied to MEVASHIR (note the all-caps he uses to sign his name!), a full Jew who is busy here invading all comment threads with his sanctimonious replies intended to weasel into the good opinion of weak and stupid aryan/gentile self-styled “intellectuals” here. What a laugh they are. First rule: Don’t feed the trolls or jews — no exceptions. Find another avenue to say what you want to say, another person. another comment. Never reply directly to Mevashir. Any encouragement has negative consequences. This guy is a machine that never stops.

    Yes, Nationalism came before Socialism for a reason. Many, many working class Germans at that time were voting Social Democrat – a Jewish dominated socialist party. Hitler needed to attract those voters and bring them round, which is why he put Socialist in the party name. But, as you say, he was committed to installing social programs to lift up and benefit these forgotten Germans–millions of them. And did. He cared about them–it was not just a political strategy.

    I’ll add that Hitler always kept his word to the German people and did what he said he would do. Those who try to portray him otherwise are those who are strangers to truth.

    I thank you for usually saying the right thing.

    • Agree: HdC, Maddaugh
    • Thanks: Trinity
    • LOL: Mevashir
  227. John Wear says:
    @HdC

    In regard to the euthanasia program, please see Chapter Ten of my book “Germany’s War” located on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/. My guess is approximately 75,000 people were euthanized under this program. I would not call that “very rare circumstances.”

    In regard to the German medical experiments, please see the first section of Chapter Nine of my book. I totally agree with you that both Germany and the United States performed illegal medical experiments during World War II. Dr. Robert Servatius, the Doctors’ Trial defense attorney, expanded on the theme of U.S. Army human experimentation. American journalist Annie Jacobsen writes:

    “Servatius had located a Life magazine article, published in June of 1945, that described how OSRD [the U.S. Office of Scientific Research and Development] conducted experiments on 800 U.S. prisoners during the war. Servatius read the entire article, word for word, in the courtroom. None of the American judges was familiar with the article, nor were most members of the prosecution, and its presentation in court clearly caught the Americans off guard.

    Because the article specifically discussed U.S. Army wartime experiments on prisoners, it was incredibly damaging for the prosecution. ‘Prison life is ideal for controlled laboratory work with humans,’ Servatius read, quoting American doctors who had been interviewed by Life reporters. The idea that extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures, and that both nations had used human test subjects during war, was unsettling. It pushed the core Nazi concept of the Untermenschen to the side. The Nuremberg prosecutors were left looking like hypocrites.”

    • Replies: @HdC
  228. Mevashir says:
    @RobinG

    And what % is of Moorish?

    Good question. I don’t know. I’ve read that the dark hair of most Hispanics is due to Jewish/Moorish influence and that true blue-blooded Spaniards are blond and blue eyed. If you watch soap operas on Mexican TV this is exactly how many popular actresses appear! https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/news/a31651/10-best-novelas-of-all-time/

    Re Eileen @ https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/why-not-question-the-holocaust-in-schools/#comment-4975676 :

    This state of affairs cannot go on for ever, of course. As Abraham Lincoln famously remarked, “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

    I would say you can fool all of the people all of the time if they are fools, especially if they have been successfully brainwashed by the dumbing down machine called the boob-tube:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Arguments_for_the_Elimination_of_Television


    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~feliks/four-arguments-for-the-elimination-of-television/index.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/Columnists/Column/0,5673,234234,00.html
    Enough. TV is a drug – anti-social, addictive and bad for you. The TV set is already a kind of hypodermic syringe, offering a quick route to the nervous system. But the use of television in the multi-channel future will be more like crack cocaine – fast-acting and low-grade. The channel we really need is the Off Channel, the one that shows a blank screen and tells you to get a life.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  229. HdC says:
    @John Wear

    If it had been up to me I would have ordered the execution of all air crews that were shot down over Germany. And made movies of it for distribution to the allied nations.
    Fire bombing civilians was not in accordance of the Geneva Convention, was it?

    • Thanks: Mevashir
  230. Mevashir says:
    @HdC

    But weren’t those pilots just following orders? Oops I forgot — that’s not an excuse…

    How about instead of executing them taking them on tours of the rubble of Dresden and similar locations and having them issue a public apology on camera to be distributed throughout the Allied Nations?

    • Replies: @HdC
  231. @KenH

    Even if the gas chambers were real …

    It’s a mistake to argue this way. Why vouch for the “humanity” of “the gas chambers” when there were no homicidal gas chambers, ever, to begin with? It’s always been a total fiction. Also, why compare Soviet style of execution to “German style?” Nothing is gained. Just state the facts and demand proof from the accusers.

    That’s how it works–if you accuse someone of something, you have to provide proof, ideally forensic evidence. It’s not up to the accused to prove they didn’t do what you’ve accused them of. No reasonable person would disagree. The Nuremberg Tribunal of 1946, where the “proof” was allegedly provided, and the Hoax still rests on today, is where we need to put much more attention. It was entirely bogus. It needs a systematic approach, and there are some! I highly recommend both these books:
    https://shop.codoh.com/book/made-in-russia-the-holocaust-en/353/
    https://shop.codoh.com/book/auschwitz-en/386/

    I think the (((Media))) and it’s constant drumbeat is the biggest reason for the continuation of the Hoax.
    Support the Holocaust Handbooks any way you can. https://holocausthandbooks.com/

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Thanks: Fox
    • Replies: @KenH
  232. Well that explains the advent of Polish jokes.

  233. Mevashir says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    I thank you for usually saying the right thing.

    Quite a compliment coming from the Nazi Parakeet Paragon of Perfection. It must be hard for her to occupy a world of so many inferior untermenschen. Truly she was born in the wrong place and the wrong time.

    She’s also apparently afraid of honest discourse, of teaching and informing each other, of exchanging information, because she judges people based on racism. She is the only person on TUR that I find completely odious and reprehensible, which I am sure she will take as a compliment.

    In one of his movies Woody Allen is forced to spend 24 hours in solitary confinement with a life insurance salesman. This is his punishment for trying to escape from a chain gang. I’m certain that spending 24 hours in solitary with this NS hündchen would be far more distressing:
    https://youtu.be/YOaYkT6fsXg

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  234. HdC says:
    @Mevashir

    Well, if the Poles want to talk compensation they can begin by:
    a) compensate the 35000 or so murdered German expatriates’ families prior to WWII
    b) return to Germany all the stolen lands post WWI and WWII.
    c) you’re going to love this: pay compensation to Israel!!! Yes indeedy, those greedy swine are there with their hands out, again. On the other hand, considering its Poland, they may have a point.

  235. HdC says:
    @Mevashir

    You know, there is a precedent for this.
    Very few people are aware that the US military apologized to Germany for the inexcusable treatment of German soldiers after the cease fire of WWII. Search for Rheinwiesenlager.
    This apology was carried out very low key in Washington with retired personnel from both sides.
    I was never able to read about this in the msm.

    While on this topic, the Danes should apologize to Germany for allowing 10000 German children to starve to death, again post cease fire.

    Heck even the Americans sent CARE packages to Germany after the war!

  236. anarchyst says:
    @flyingputer

    Most people are unaware that “world jewry” declared “war” on Germany in 1933, yes 1933.
    Here is an excerpt from jew author Theodore N. Kaufman’s vile tome named “Germany Must Perish”:

    Germany has lost its war. She sues for peace. The imperative demands of the victor people that Germany must perish forever makes it obligatory for the leaders to select mass sterilization of the Germans as the best means of wiping them out permanently. They proceed to:

    [MORE]


    1. Immediately and completely disarm the German army and have all armaments removed from German territory.

    2. Place all German utility and heavy industrial plants under heavy guard, and replace German workers by those of Allied nationality.

    3. Segregate the German army into groups, concentrate them in severely restricted areas, and summarily sterilize them.

    4. Organize the civilian population, both male and female, within territorial sectors, and effect their sterilization.

    5. Divide the German army (after its sterilization has been completed) into labor battalions, and allocate their services toward the rebuilding of those cities which they ruined.

    6. Partition Germany and apportion its lands. The accompanying map gives some idea of possible land adjustments which might be made in connection with Germany’s extinction.

    7. Restrict all German civilian travel beyond established borders until all sterilization has been completed.

    8. Compel the German population of the apportioned territories to learn the language of its area, and within one year to cease the publication of all books, newspapers and notices in the German language, as well as to restrict German-language broadcasts and discontinue the maintenance of German-language schools.

    9. Make one exception to an otherwise severely strict enforcement of total sterilization, by exempting from such treatment only those Germans whose relatives, being citizens of various victor nations, assume financial responsibility for their emigration and maintenance and moral responsibility for their actions.

    Thus, into an oblivion which she would have visited upon the world, exits Germany.

    After reading this, can anyone of sound mind fault Germany for fighting back against the jew-controlled “Allies”?? Genocide?? Absolutely YES, since genocide is celebrated by the jews as all jewish holidays are based on genocidal events…

  237. John Wear says:
    @HdC

    I would be against the execution of Allied air crews that were shot down over Germany. If Germany had done that, then Great Britain and other countries would have the right to execute German pilots who were shot down in their countries.

    Your idea would have only increased the deaths and violence in the war, in addition to being a violation of the Geneva Convention.

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
    • Replies: @HdC
  238. One thing about the truth is that no matter how much it is buried it will always pop back up as long as you have a free society, that is why the Zionist want to control our freedom of speech and thought.

  239. @HdC

    Thanks HdC. John is wrong on these programs and he provides mainstream evidence for his charges. Unfortunately, the evidence that used to be available on the Internet supporting our view has been removed. I used to have testimonies of nurses who worked in those programs, among other good information, and I know I used it, but I have not been able to find it in my files. Back in those days, I believed what was on the Internet would always be there!

    As to the medical experiments, they were not only prisoners, but in the case of the most dangerous or deadly of the experiments for saving soldier’s lives, they were prisoners sentenced to death already. So they were given the opportunity to gain their freedom if they survived, and they took it. What did they have to lose? Why doesn’t John know this? Maybe because he’s not a researcher by nature, not very curious, and even wants to distance himself from Adolf Hitler and other “Nazis” whom he doesn’t fully approve of.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  240. @HdC

    Fortunately, it was not up to you.

  241. Zumbuddi says:
    @Eileen

    Not sure any history of WWII esp. tegarding Jews, is trustworthy.
    Polish people have too readily available a scapegoat for any history to be totally objective.
    And Jews would come down hard on any such Pole.

  242. Mevashir says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    To Fraulein Jaeger:

    I accept that you don’t like Jews and resent their destruction of NS Germany’s 1000 Jahr Reich. I feel sorry for you that you lack the confidence to engage in honest discourse with people who disagree with you. Don’t you want to persuade people of the legitimacy of your cause?

    You really missed your calling. You would have made a fantastic propaganda minister for the Reich. Far better than Goebbels. You are intelligent ideological implacable and presumably moral, unlike Goebbels, who was reputed to be a skirt chaser, despite the fact that his wife Magdalena was beautiful in her own right:

    [MORE]
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-R22014%2C_Magda_Goebbels.jpg/220px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-R22014%2C_Magda_Goebbels.jpg

    You should have been Hitler’s mistress or wife. I think you’re far more capable than Eva Braun, who strikes me as a blond bimbo, like a German Marilyn Monroe. Hitler would have been blessed to have you as his earthly companion, far more than his beloved Deutscher-Hund Blondie.

    I hope you can come to terms with the fact that you were born in the wrong place and the wrong time and missed your ideal calling. You have many qualities, but you need to learn not to insult and demean people, even those who could be your allies, like John Wear. The world is bigger than you.

    Finally I’d like to ask you a question about the German language: In English excrement is related to excrete, meaning to expel something. Same in Hebrew: Tso’ah and Hotsa’ah. So I wonder if the same might be true of the German words Scheiss and Schiessen. After I saw this movie, based on a true story during the Battle of the Bulge, I wondered about this after hearing the German officer command his men: Schiessen Sie Ihnen! https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4xn2e2

    You could be a most impressive person, a true Jaegermeisster. But your petulance insolence and turbulence makes you just a Jaegerscheisster! Aim higher for your better self bitte schoen!
    https://ensemblesto.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/SWEATER-UGLY-JAGERMEISTER08092020-FRONT-MK-scaled.jpg

    • Troll: Zumbuddi
  243. @mcohen

    The holocaust happened,not once but many times in jewish history.
    Whether it be 6 million or 1 million,to try and claim it never happened is a lie.
    The question I have to all deniers.If it was not 6 million then you have proof of how many actually perished
    So how many Jews did die in the holocaust?Or is this pathetic story and many like it just another ploy to bash Israel.

    Imagine a group of hateful people accusing an entire nation of Genocide. This group of people then tax this entire nation for a crime they supposedly committed some 75 years ago. German teenagers working at their first job, are being taxed for “Holocaust” survivor benefits. And yet anyone in that nation that asks for proof of this supposed crime is prosecuted for “Hate Speech” and sent to prison for 5-10 years. Tens of thousands of Germans are in prison today for speaking out against the Holocaust Hoax. Their resistance rarely makes the US newspapers.

    If you are a human rights lawyer in Germany and defend “Hate Speech” (aka Holocaust Deniars), then you too are sent to prison:

    https://codoh.com/library/document/sylvia-stolz-sent-to-prison-for-criticizing/en/

    Hate Speech Laws devised by the Jews are in place now in some 20 countries. The Holocaust is the only supposed Historical event that is not open to investigation, debate and revision. Why in all the history of human beings is this one topic unapproachable?????

    The answer is simple. It is a massive global swindle, designed to enslave all the world to Jewish supremacy.

    It is shit like this that gets this parasitical race expelled from every country they slink into.

    Educate yourself on the Holocaust Debate: http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/HolocaustSkepticism.pdf

    • Agree: John Wear, Buck Ransom
  244. geokat62 says:
    @Mevashir

    … despite the fact that his wife Magdalena was beautiful in her own right:

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  245. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    The TV set is already a kind of hypodermic syringe, offering a quick route to the nervous system.

    Why are you on about TV? Now you can suckle at the teat of the cyber-web.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  246. Eileen says:
    @Eileen

    To correct that last paragraph:

    As the Israeli “Nazi hunter” Efraim Zuroff has candidly observed, the greatest danger to the official “Holocaust” narrative is the fact that East European countries (some of which — unlike the underground Polish State, but like German-occupied France — did opt for collaboration with the Germans) are now reminding the world that there was “another holocaust” perpetrated by Soviet communists, many of whom were Jews:

    “[…] if Communism is categorized as genocide, it means that Jews committed genocide. Jewish communists were among those who committed the crimes of the Communist regime. If Jews committed genocide, how can we complain […]?”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-holocaust-distortion-poland-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-nazi-hunter-says/

    • Agree: bike-anarkist
    • Thanks: Orville H. Larson
  247. @anon

    Only one minority has a death grip on the culture, mores, economy and the inner workings of extant governments and their peoples.

    It’s NOT ethnocentricity to overcome, it’s the inexorable will to do harm.

    • Replies: @anon
  248. @InnerCynic

    I totally despise these idiots. They are so far from understanding Christianity that it’s pathetic. Yes, Christ said turn the other cheek but he did not do that when he whipped the money changers out of the house of God. Let’s not see this side of Christ. Christians are not required to be doormats. Where did this idiotic idea ever come from.?

    • Agree: InnerCynic
  249. @Mevashir

    Only adolescents would argue, “My genocide was worse than yours!”

    Remind me of that Monty Python sketch where two blokes debating who had the worst childhood upbringing!

  250. @Mevashir

    Full disparagement and ad hominems rather than substance.

    Obviously, you are on the RUN.

  251. Eileen says:
    @Mevashir

    As far as I know the first version of Auschwitz was opened in June 1940 and “catered” for members of the Polish elites (one in ten of whom did happen to be Jews). That was long before Barbarossa.

  252. @adrian costa

    Easy Peasy??? —–Books critical of Israel and exposing the Genocide of Palestinians??? Find a Publisher for those Books. Once the hook nose tribe realizes your strategy they will block every avenue and distribution isle for your books.

    Keep in mind….every publisher in America signed a pledge not to market any book from former President Trump. BEFORE he even left office. This is the power of Jew Owned Media.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/19/hundreds-publishing-industry-sign-letter-block-trump-book-deals/

    If you self publish and your books gain any type of following they will be banned on Jew owned Amazon:

    https://barnesreview.org/amazons-banned-book-full-list/

    It is not impossible but the game is definitely rigged.

    Hollywood is being replaced by the Chinese Movie Industry. Hopefully, China will begin producing films exposing Israel’s crimes. Hopefully, China will make films showing the German side of WWII …as a big FUCK YOU to America’s ridiculous “Axis of Evil” Propaganda… force-fed infants at birth.

  253. John Wear says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    You write: “John is wrong on these programs and he provides mainstream evidence for his charges. Unfortunately, the evidence that used to be available on the Internet supporting our view has been removed. I used to have testimonies of nurses who worked in those programs, among other good information, and I know I used it, but I have not been able to find it in my files. Back in those days, I believed what was on the Internet would always be there!”

    My response: So, unfortunately, all of your evidence has disappeared. One source you might consult is the Doctors’ Trial. If you were in Dallas, you could go to the fourth floor of the SMU Law Library, where they have the entire testimony presented in this trial. You might be able to find this trial testimony where you live in Fredericksburg, Texas.

    You write: “As to the medical experiments, they were not only prisoners, but in the case of the most dangerous or deadly of the experiments for saving soldier’s lives, they were prisoners sentenced to death already. ”

    My response: Many of the prisoners who were experimented on in the German camps were not sentenced to death.

    I agree with you that the Allies were complete hypocrites in regard to the German medical experimentation. For example, German Dr. Klaus Karl Schilling was executed for performing malaria experiments on inmates in Dachau, whereas none of the American doctors who performed similar experiments in the United States got in trouble.

    In fact, when it was discovered that American doctors had performed extensive illegal medical experimentation, the prosecution flew in Dr. Andrew Ivy to explain the differences in medical ethics between German and U.S. medical experiments. Interestingly, Dr. Ivy himself had been involved in malaria experiments on inmates at the Illinois State Penitentiary. When Dr. Ivy mentioned that the United States had specific research standards for medical experimentation on humans, it turns out that these principles were first published on December 28, 1946, 19 days after the opening of the trial. Dr. Ivy had to admit that the U.S. principles on ethics in human medical experimentation had been made in anticipation of Dr. Ivy’s testimony at the Doctors’ Trial.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @Fox
  254. Mevashir says:
    @RobinG

    The point is that the entire boomer generation had its brain collectively destroyed by television and are not capable of critically thinking about anything. That’s why I mentioned TV.

    • Agree: RobinG
    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @SolontoCroesus
  255. @KenH

    A people who Love lies Love “the jew. A people who despise lies despise “the jew”. We are transitioning from the former to the latter. The people of the lie are soon to die. This is both historical and technological inevitability. Questioning our past cannot be kept out of the public realm but by lies and laws. Neither or both cannot stand for long against our curiosity and that is strengthened by the very acts that are imposed to keep our history from us. What G.H.W.B. told us we will do when we realize what t.h.e.y. have done is prescient. The 110th is near.

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  256. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @bike-anarkist

    just trying to make the point that the anti-anti-semites (most jews) and the anti-semites are both full of shit.

    the aufhebung is:

    if phil and i woke up tomorrow and all the jews had been replaced with armenians or whatever small group…

    anti-armenianism would have little to do with armenians qua armenians.

    BUT! it would still be totally legitimate.

    there is no people one earth who would not prefer their own bad government to the government of an alien power.

    UNLESS…armenians were very ethnocentric and envied the accomplishments of their host population.

  257. Eileen says:
    @RobinG

    Sorry — here’s the correct version of that final paragraph:

    As the Israeli “Nazi hunter” Efraim Zuroff has candidly observed, the greatest danger to the official “Holocaust” narrative is the fact that East European countries (some of which — unlike the underground Polish State, but like German-occupied France — did opt for collaboration with the Germans) are now reminding the world that there was “another holocaust” perpetrated by Soviet communists, many of whom were Jews:

    “[…] if Communism is categorized as genocide, it means that Jews committed genocide. Jewish communists were among those who committed the crimes of the Communist regime. If Jews committed genocide, how can we complain […]?”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-holocaust-distortion-poland-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-nazi-hunter-says/

  258. The Holohoax! An annual \$6 billion industry. But what’s the motive? The nose knows.

    • LOL: InnerCynic
  259. @Mevashir

    Hook Nosed Jew Spittal. How is the weather in Israel? How is cubicle life at the ADL? Shame on You.

    Caroline Yeager would not give you an ounce of her time, much less share a cell with you.

    [MORE]

    Keep your perverted Jew fantasies to yourself, this is not rural Russia and you are not a member of the Cheka –you can no longer rape eleven-year-old girls and brag to your buddies of your sexual prowess. Your tribe is the product of years of debauched families refusing to bathe and willing to engage, with fervor, Rabbi-directed incest. I doubt anyone at all, besides your first cousins, loves you. I suspect any love you have ever received in your pathetic, hate-filled life was from your Rabbi —as he sucked your bloody infant penis after circumcision.

    Your beloved Zionist social experiment called Israel is Doomed. All of the world is waking up. Your lies are exposed every day. Digital currency will obsolete Jewish Usery. America will soon puke out Israel. Muslims will outbreed effeminate, soy boy Jews at a clip of 5:1. All of your incessant machinations will return home to you tenfold. Your last words on this earth will be the screech of…”Anti-Semite”!!

    Fifty years from now your grave and the graves of your parents will be bulldozed to make room for Palestinian soccer fields.

    The world will right itself. The age of the Jew will once again come to an end.

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
  260. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    I agreed, but every generation seems to find a way to [collectively] destroy their brains. Or someone does it for them. Alas, countless feet of clay.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  261. @Mike Fridelle

    And what, you murderous psychopath, of the millions of Palestinians, Lebanese, Cypriots, Egyptians, Jordanians etc, let alone those further afield, who would die if your vile Tsar Bomba hopes were fulfilled. Not to forget decent Jews who oppose the vile Zionazi regime.

  262. @sardar

    As Zionazi atrocities INCREASE under the vile Bennett regime, MSM coverage in Austfailia falls to near zero. Those curs know who is their Master and which tune they need to play, or not. Just heard a new, junior, presstitute talk of the ‘Tames River’ at Windsor in England!!!??? What rock do they find such scum under?

    • Replies: @sardar
  263. @Carolyn Yeager

    My grandmother (99) was in the League of German Girls. She met The Painter once – she had only good things to say about him and what he did to the nation. They went from starving and hopeless to the opposite – all without J interference.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  264. @mcohen

    Millions of Jews were murdered. If a few were murdered that would be a crime and a horror. But NOT only Jews were murdered, so selecting Jewish suffering for transmutation into a compulsory State pseudo-religion is intriguing, to say the least.
    As for these horrors repeating throughout history, I suggest you consult Bernard Lazare, the French Jewish intellectual, early defender of Dreyfus and opponent of true Judeophobes. He noted that Jews had suffered reactions from the host societies almost everywhere they had lived, and observed that at least some of the blame must, logically, be the fault of the Jews themselves.
    And that does not consider the atrocities that Jews inflicted on others, as in the genocides of the Kitos War. As for bashing Israel-well it is a pariah, racist, terrorist, apartheid regime that treats International Law with unbridled contempt, and commits atrocities against the imprisoned Palestinians with pity or compunction.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  265. HbutnotG says:
    @Trinity

    I guess we;ll never know.

    I sometimes wondered who, exactly, was Van Gogh blowing and how did he really lose that ear? Gaughin probably got caught doing that somewhere. Hence, he fled to the opposite end of the world (yeah – overkill). You have to realize the times they lived in.

  266. Mevashir says:
    @RobinG

    Thank you fellow Unzians. This has been the most stimulating and amazing educational experience interacting with ya’all.

    MF @ https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/why-not-question-the-holocaust-in-schools/#comment-4976277 : I live in Colorado, have a small nose, don’t work for MoeSad SheenyButt or ADL, and I’m blessed many people love me. I hope you will be too: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/889254598514323457/JLt1ikTJ_400x400.jpg

    SHALOM – SALAAM – PEACE – PAX – PACEM – MIR – IRINI – FRIEDEN

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Dingo bay rum
  267. @flyingputer

    Questioning our past cannot be kept out of the public realm …”

    “… cannot stand for long against our curiosity and that is strengthened by the very acts that are imposed to keep our history from us.”

    Meaningful sentiments, indeed. Thanks for putting it that way. It truly gives me hope. It’s OUR past and OUR history. We have a (divine) right to discuss it and question it all we wish. We need to employ our (divine) Will.

    • Replies: @flyingputer
  268. Bookish1 says:
    @Mevashir

    You sound like an average guy with no particular angst against anyone. But before I conclude that you are just another guy like anyone else I have to know your feelings on immigration. So many nice friendly jews but almost none of them are against all those immigrants coming in.

    • Replies: @Maddaugh
    , @Mevashir
  269. Bookish1 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    millions of Jews were murdered? Red Cross says about 270,000 total deaths in all camps during entire course of the war and 40 percent of those deaths were Jews. That means about 100,000 Jews died in camps and don’t forget the Red Cross was there.

    • Agree: HdC
  270. @Blackstone

    Yes! Your treasure of a grandmother — have you been able to record her stories and testimony? The vast majority of Germans felt the same way and why wouldn’t they? The so-called anti-Hitlerites were only far-leftists, Jews, foreigners and some Catholics. I’m sure your grandmother confirms that.

    God bless her. Thanks for sharing this.

    • Replies: @Blackstone
  271. @Mike Fridelle

    Anne Frank herself didn’t write for Broadway but the other writer that came about two years thereafter to correct and edit her pages into a whole — with a ball point — did envision a best-seller. I was told that in the sixties in a course of literature by some professor who found that perfectly normal.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  272. TheIdiot says:

    Because when it comes to modern times Covid lockdowns

    and Vaccine latent enforcement

    and cancellation of the Grundgesetz

    no country in Europe comes anywhere near Germany in terms of totalitarianism

    the Spirit of Fascism is alive and kicking in that mentality

    and this is why US made UK and Russia pay for it and keep it alive from 1945 to 2000+

    Marshall Plan financed by the starving lend-lease idiots

  273. geokat62 says:

    Looks like they’re going to do to O’Keefe what they’re doing to Assange.

    Excerpts from, Judge Rules James O’Keefe’s Schemes Can Be Portrayed to Jury As ‘Political Spying’:

    A federal judge has dealt conservative figure James O’Keefe a legal blow, ruling that his group’s undercover operations against a Democratic consulting firm can fairly be described at an upcoming million-dollar trial as “political spying.”…

    In an Oct. 14 court opinion, though, U.S. District Court Judge Paul L. Friedman ruled that it’s reasonable to describe O’Keefe’s group’s actions in that way.

    “‘Political spying’ is a fair characterization of the undisputed facts of this case,” Friedman, a Bill Clinton appointee, wrote.

    https://indexedworldnews.com/2021/10/25/judge-rules-james-okeefes-schemes-can-be-portrayed-to-jury-as-political-spying/

    Here’s the fox guarding the henhouse, U.S. District Court Judge Paul L. Friedman

  274. @John Wear

    You’re mixing up two things. The nurses whose testimonies (and stories/essays) I had were working with the Euthanasia program. It was all really interesting to me, and revealed what a compassionate approach was taken, from the administrators to the doctors to the nurses. It was never ‘cold’ nor was it ‘murder” as you present it to be. The nurses who were uncomfortable when they started with the program, got over that as they worked in it. No nurse was ordered to participate; they all had the option to say no. Not to have that right was considered un-German by the powers that be.

    The medical experiments, on the other hand, are different. There was very little medical experiments going on in camps. You mainly speak in generalities. The only serious ones I know of were the attempts to discover ways to prevent and treat hypothermia in pilots and aircrews — a serious problem in the Luftwaffe. At Dachau, Sigmund Rascher had about 400 prisoners to participate in dangerous cold-water experiments, of which 80 to 90 perished (according to USHMM, a poor source). The results were published in a medical journal as “Medical Problems Arising from Sea and Winter” — which helped all future air crews. So over 300 prisoners didn’t perish and won their freedom from execution, according to the agreement. Seems to me it did more good than bad.

    You seem mostly interested in showing the Allies as hypocrites, but not in exonerating the Germans. You’re also too invested in being a moral paragon and making it a question of the highest moral principals according to your lights, but never winning a war in which millions are suffering.

    Your articles never leave me feeling good. Why don’t you tell me what you consider one of your very best articles, with a link, and I’ll read it and tell you privately what I think from that standpoint.

    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @Fox
  275. It is all so strange. When I studied philosophy, many moons ago, every single professor I had would have said that there is nothing, that is exempt from being ruthlessly questioned. An intelligent person, should question every thing before them to the best of ones ability. Now, mainly elements coming from the left, tell us that certain things are sacrosanct and can not be questioned, or it’s the sign of someone who is evil or ignorant or hateful. Pick your choice.

    • Thanks: JackOH
    • Replies: @JackOH
  276. LeoB says:

    Jewish groups generally speaking consider the standard narrative with its highly questionable six million dead, gas chambers, extermination camps, and soap made from body fat to be something like sacred ground

    Oops right away we can see that the author isn’t familiar with the subject even on the very basic level.

    The “human soap” hoax was debunked by the Jews themselves decades ago. Notably, Thomas Blatt (a Sobibor survivor) conducted a research that debunked this myth, and so did some other holocaust historians.

    Only total amateurs on the subject – like this author – bring up the “human soap” thing as if it’s actually still a thing.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  277. JackOH says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    I had a strange, casual exchange with a woman I know She’s bright; I like her. We were idly flapping our jaws when she said: “Well, I’m a minority.” She explained: “Y’know, a woman in the work force.”
    She said it in a way that suggested she was just uttering something that was common knowledge.

    Actual labor statistics show the opposite to be true.

    As you said, for this woman, who I know is a very decent human being, her faux “minority” status is likely “sacrosanct” and “can not be questioned”. It may serve some therapeutic purpose for her to consider herself a “minority”, when that is not true.

    These sorts of “fake truths” make adult debate pretty much impossible.

    I think some responsibility lies with the big expansion of education the last 70 years, leading to empty credentialism, and a lot of people who believe they’re smart when they’re just ideologized or indoctrinated.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  278. John Wear says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    If you subscribe to The Barnes Review, the current issue has my article on Dr. Sigmund Rascher. This article documents that while Dr. Rascher’s experiments killed many people, they did result in some useful medical information that helped save lives.

    If you don’t subscribe to The Barnes Review, look for this article in Inconvenient History within two months. Also, the first part of Chapter Nine of my book “Germany’s War” discusses Germany’s medical experimentation during World War II.

    In regard to the German euthanasia program, if the mentally-ill person was not told that they were going to be euthanized, I consider this to be murder.

    One of my favorite articles is located on Inconvenient History at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/12/2/7252. You might enjoy reading this article.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  279. MarkinLA says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    The problem with any list is the intent of the people maintaing it. These were supposed people put in camps and either worked to death or gassed. Given the lack of real ability to substantiate claims, some could have simply been partisans who died fighting or run of the mill people living in areas the Germans overran who died naturally but their relatives, for whatever reason (\$\$\$\$ hint, hint) wanted their names on the list.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  280. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous

    When you kill them with a bullet you have to bury them in a huge mass grave that you eventually have to dig up and burn them all when the Red Army is chasing you back into Germany and you don’t even have enough fuel to run your trucks and Panzers.

    I wonder why this doesn’t make any sense?

  281. MarkinLA says:
    @Mark X. Andersen

    I have no problem with presenting arguments for the holocaust, but it’s not appropriate material for kids until 12th grade — or maybe not even until college.

    Can’t have it only one way.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
  282. @John Wear

    On the Rascher article, why not email it to me — I don’t subscribe.

    You really seem not to grasp what shape these people who were euthanized were in … by calling them “mentally-ill.” You just keep this up. What good would it do to tell them, and try to get them to understand? I don’t know if they were told or not but I’d say it was better they were not told. By the way, one wonders about your personal beliefs regarding death. I’ve always questioned how those who are the biggest believers in Heaven and the glory of God can be the most upset about death, as though it is a terrible fate to be avoided as long as possible. Isn’t pain and suffering, including mental pain and suffering, the worst fate?

    • Replies: @John Wear
  283. @LeoB

    Yes, you’re right. This is the kind of revisionist articles we get here from Ron Unz. Pablum. But then there’s the opportunity to discuss it with one another and learn where people stand. Welcome to the discussion!

    • Replies: @grettir
  284. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Elie Wiesel’s Night was originally classified a novel when published in 1958. It has since silently been converted into a memoir. Wiesel also plagiarized it from a Yiddish original written by a person who seems to have died before Night came out in (Wiesel’s) original French.

  285. John Wear says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    I just sent you my email address via your website. Send me your email address and I will send you the article.

    Most schizophrenics and other mentally-ill people know what death is. It is not ethical to euthanize them without their informed consent.

  286. sardar says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    [What rock do they find such scum under?]

    The scum is on the both side of the aisle, US and apartheid entity.
    The scum in occupied land informed the world that is going to violet the International law AGAIN, and build 3000 more settler homes on the STOLEN land of Palestinians.

    What was the response of the zionist regime of Biden to Israeli VIOLATION of the International laws? Nothing.

    The following SHAMEFUL statement is said while Biden falls asleep:

    [MORE]

    “We strongly oppose the expansion of settlements, which is completely inconsistent with efforts to lower tensions and to ensure calm, and it damages the prospects for a two-state solution,” State Department spokesperson Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    This is AGAINST the international laws that you force on others, but you ignore Int. law when you and your dogs commit a criminal act.

    Stop your stupid statement when say:

    […is completely inconsistent with efforts to lower tensions and to ensure calm, and it damages the prospects for a two-state solution,]

    You and your dogs live on TENSIONS, that’s why you are in the Middle East to foment tensions to topple government after government.

    You say these rubbish in order to tell the dummies that you are still working for ‘two state solution’, but in fact your policy has helped Israel to steal more land so you can have a career in politics.

    Both Biden and Trump have the same policy regarding the apartheid entity.
    Both are servants of the Jewish mafia to collect benefits. It is interesting to know how much of Trump’s debts has been wiped off his shoulder by selling the office for millions of dollars, pardoning Jewish mafia billionaires and arresting and assassinating political figures on mafia list and strangulating other countries’ economy through sanctions designed and enforced by the Jewish members of the treasury Department signed by the zionist presidents, Trump and Biden.

    Net Price must Stop fooling himself, no one else can be fooled by these lies. It is better to shut up because when you say ‘two state solution’, the world laughs at you since your criminal and bloody history is known to every living person. When you say these lies people vomit.

    If you support international law, then Why don’t you sanction ISRAEL? Israel should be held accountable for its crimes against humanity otherwise stop wasting people’s time. You are even afraid of BDS and allow the fifth column Jewish mafia members to go after American people who support BDS.
    Why has Biden, like trump, Sanction many countries that follow the international laws while US covers for a criminal apartheid entity and a terrorist state like Israel where is in violation of the laws?

    Israel and US are both terrorist states that designed and implemented NINE ELEVEN where have killed millions of Muslims and made millions more as refugees. US and Israel have destroyed 7 countries millions of Muslims to keep the apartheid entity alive. You will be destroyed idiots. Israel is illegitimate and cannot survive.

    • Agree: Badger Down
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  287. Fox says:
    @John Wear

    I believe that all the participant’s in Dr. Schilling’s experiments with malaria were volunteers from among the inmates of the Dachau camp. Their participation in the trials was contingent on approval by higher authority. Several deaths occurred in the course of the medical experiment, which was aimed at a vaccination prophylaxis of malaria infection. 10 of the participants died in the course of these trials, but I don’t know the total number of participants in the experiments.
    To stamp someone like Dr. Schilling a “war criminal” for conducting “illegal experiments” is childish cant. Dr. Schilling was a world-renowned authority in tropical medicine, medical doctor and one has to assume that he conducted his experiments with the goal of achieving a cure for a dangerous infection. But the trial of him and his colleagues for their life was conducted with the inherent accusation that they were arbitrary and cruelly and without compassion mistreating other human beings in their power to conduct ridiculous experiments. Dr. Schilling died on the gallows for being a “war criminal”, while Ivy and his colleagues in the US were not.
    Inasmuch people who already had been sentenced to death were offered to participate in medical experiments, especially more dangerous ones, is not known to me, but if there is information on it and a broader, non-hysterical source of information on the whole complex, I’d welcome any information on it
    Malaria, especially malaria tropica, is a serious infection, and even now, with good drugs and prophylactic measures at hand, several hundred thousand people die of it every year.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  288. Fox says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Thanks, Carolyn. Do you have the reference for that medical journal the results by Rascher about hypothermia were published in?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  289. @Mevashir

    But you have that wonderful smucky jew view of life.!!!

  290. I have always believed the holohoax was invented by the WW2 allies to deflect criticism of the MILLIONS OF CIVILIANS they killed by their policy of urban bombing.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus, HdC
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  291. During ww2 america conducted experiments on conscientious objectors. They were starved for months to see what the physical effects on them were.

  292. You are hilarious boomer.

    As if a State chock full of “evangelical” boomers could do anything other than whatever the Jews command.

    Bend over and spread your other cheek for your JewGod. He loves you! Just lube your children up, he doesn’t like the rough ride…

  293. @John Wear

    Most schizophrenics and other mentally-ill people know what death is. It is not ethical to euthanize them without their informed consent.

    Whether true or not, there is undoubtedly a significant number of Americans (non-boomers) who want out. We are sick of your boomer bullshit. We are sick of having our labor confiscated. We are sick of your boomer media lies. We want nothing more than the right to abdicate.

    Perhaps we are mentally ill. Or perhaps we are absolutely fed the fuck up after decades of your boomer bullshit? Either way, we’re ready and waiting. Come get us.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  294. @Zachary Smith

    Calling Hitler The Devil Himself is shorthand for endorsing the Holocaust Narrative. If Hitler was not the Devil but just a man then the Holocaust Narrative is undermined. If the Holocaust was just another confused policy in the midst of complete wartime collapse then the view of Hitler as irredeemably evil is undermined. Hitler, Fascism, n the Holocaust are so wrapped up in falsification n mythology that it’s best to disregard absolutely everything one reads or hears about them n presume the opposite.

    • Replies: @Petermx
    , @turtle
  295. Petermx says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Good comment but there is the truth out there in books written by authors that are or have been oppressed and their books deliberately kept from the public. They are the revisionists. The fact this article appears on this website and the many comments supporting it shows many people doubt or don’t believe the narrative pushed. Lets hope this feeling spreads. If the holocaust was true they would not have to pass laws in Europe to jail people when they point out falsehoods in a book or speech.

    • Replies: @HdC
  296. John Wear says:
    @Fox

    You write: “I believe that all the participant’s in Dr. Schilling’s experiments with malaria were volunteers from among the inmates of the Dachau camp.”

    My response: Do you have any documentation for this statement?

    You are correct that it was complete hypocrisy to hang Dr. Schilling. Dr. Andrew Ivy, who did similar malaria experiments in the United States, travelled to Dachau to testify to supposedly superior American medical standards. It turns out that these American standards were invented solely for the Dachau trial. Dr. Schilling got hanged for doing the same type of medical experimentation that Dr. Ivy and other American doctors performed.

    • Replies: @Fox
  297. John Wear says:
    @Stan d Mute

    I am not sure what you are attempting to accomplish with your comment. I am against any government killing a citizen without their informed consent. If someone wants to voluntarily commit suicide, that is their free will choice.

  298. @Carolyn Yeager

    The “divine” is a ruse. It does not exist but within us. There is no deity only reality. Reality can be parsed by all who choose to do so. “There is one reason to not know our reality, personal choice.” J.I.
    Belief in any “divine” turns Adulthood into childhood so reasoning becomes infected with belief so devolves over time to no more than believing. Facts become “my facts” or “your facts” no base in reality exists but for one, the frn is the true God of all who use it to fill their needs. This, all deny or make excuses for that the teller of those excuses cannot believe him or herself. “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” William Casey.
    He was right and all around me display aspects of this thousands of years ongoing program. Its a judaic program. If you want to “believe” in something how about reality? For instance the Trinity all “believe” is other than us is probably the biggest aspect of the plan. All “believe” the Trinity is outside of us. This is by design, judaic design. The true Trinity is our heads, hearts and guts. When these align we know we are on the straight and narrow, no God needed, wanted or tolerated! A belief in a God, in any form is a belief. A perversion of US aligned with our heads, hearts and guts! Our “inner guide” as I like to call it. Children are not as egoistic or imbued with self delusion as those who are chronological adults but children nonetheless. Children call what they do pretending, playing. Those who are chronological adults but children in head, heart and gut call it “faith”, “belief” and cling to absurd insane beliefs. So “the jew” rules easily. “If you can make people believe absurdities you can make them commit atrocities.” Voltaire
    Do you really “believe” you are not believing absurdities? This is humanities issue. The choice of judaic rule based on the absurdities demanding atrocities over Logos. Its time to put away childish things. Its time to kill the psychopathic parasites and progress into Logos, Common Law with outlaw status. 0 limited liability. No insurances, indemnity, immunity, written law or power concentrations. I know how you see this but I am talking Adult not consumer or citizen or herd member language. The choice of our and our progenies future is ours for the choosing but Love-Logos-Logic-Common Law is clear about how to deal with outlaws. Its time for the final hunt or accept the choice to be fully subjugated under “the jew” and doom our progeny to far worse than we suffer.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Fox
  299. @JackOH

    I know what you are saying about “fake truths”. They have a way of taking on a life of their own. I agree on the role that the education of the last 70 years has had on this, putting idealism over practical truths. There is a place for believing in ideals but it shouldn’t be in public schools. That’s results in what is happening now with the CRT crap. Thanks for taking the time to answer my post.

    • Replies: @JackOH
  300. @Carolyn Yeager

    Sadly her mind is understandably not what it was so any testimony record now would be unreliable. I regret not taking record years ago when she was more sharp, but I feel blessed to have access to someone who was there.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  301. Maddaugh says:
    @Bookish1

    Megasheen is nothing more than a cheap Schlomo troll peddling his re-consitituted Juoil here. Like all of his kind he either supports mass immigration or remains quiet which is the same thing. He waxes about his background and his Daddy’s CV . Their “pedigree” is supposed to lend credence to their dialogue, camouflage, disguise and deflect their bullshit but it is impossible to not see through the veneer and watch the continual sordid behaviour.

    What pisses people off, more than anything else, is their ingrained, habitual hypocrisy, lying and deceit and chiselling. To most people, lying is abhorrent but to them, it is a carefully honed custom.

    So, in the US they happily support untrammelled immigration but in the home country, the border jumpers would be knee capped. They happily built a wall back home but on our Southern Border this is a no no ! Diversity and Multiculturalism is great for everyone else but not for them.

    They happily use Blacks to do their dirty work but I doubt that even a black Jew would be allowed into Joolandia. Such is the nature of them all and our Hasbara mouthpiece is no different.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  302. KenH says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Why vouch for the “humanity” of “the gas chambers” when there were no homicidal gas chambers, ever, to begin with?

    I didn’t concede that gas chambers existed or vouch for the humanity of them. I was simply playing devil’s advocate by stating that gassing is a humane way to execute someone since they feel no pain or suffering.

    Otherwise I agree that our side should force the Jews and other holocaust believers to prove their case instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks or trying to destroy the lives of anyone who dares to question their claims.

    Jews and their lackeys have no problem with anyone who questions the death toll in the Holodomor which their kinsmen like Lazar Kaganovitch enthusiastically took part in. That’s a real holocaust they’d prefer people don’t know about.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  303. FatR says:

    “Holohax debunking” is the Internet equivalent of charging the same impregnable defensive position that already repelled twenty assaults for the twenty first time and then wondering why results haven’t changed. Even IF deboooonking arguments actually were correct, or at least sellable to a person of at least moderate intelligence who is not already committed to your position, it would have been one of the most retarded propaganda approaches ever. You are asking white Americans to shoulder another mountain of racial guilt, and unlike blacks, you don’t have fear and violence on your side, so they may prefer guilt to admitting that they are cowards who just don’t want to fight. This is not going to work and this is observably not working, except for your enemy, who just loves to see his opponents screaming at the top of their lungs that they are, in fact, neo-Nazis.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  304. Maddaugh says:

    You said to Carolyn Yeager:

    I feel sorry for you that you lack the confidence to engage in honest discourse with people who disagree with you. Don’t you want to persuade people of the legitimacy of your cause?

    You seem confused and out of touch. It is your Tribe that “”lacks the confidence to engage in honest discourse with people who disagree with you. Don’t you want to persuade people of the legitimacy of your assertions ?”

    In typical sleaze fashion, what you would not do because it is right, you accuse others of doing because it is wrong. What is the matter with you people ? Your ilk will never be able to convince anyone of the 6M figure. You especially, because you are an absolute cunt !

    • Agree: HdC
    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @HdC
  305. JackOH says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Dr. Charles, I was startled to hear a usually pretty sensible woman sort of hint that she’s claiming “underrepresented White woman in the work force” victim status, when, without clarification, that category of thought doesn’t actually exist in the real world. She delivered her statement casually, and didn’t press the point. Might have just been honest error on her part.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  306. Maddaugh says:

    Allegedly, Adolf did away with 6M Jews. However, his total score, according to the grifters was 11M in all categories. He did this while also fighting all the major nations on 3 fronts.

    This means he wiped out the equivalent population of both Chicago and New York City. Not only that but the remains of all those people just disappeared. No one has been able to find any evidence of their remains. Every now and again, scientists dig up bones and teeth millions of years old but we have not been able to find the 6M of just 70 years ago. Its a magic show like Santa landing on the roof with Rudolph and his reindeers and squeezing his 300 pound body, gifts and all, down the chimney.

    By my reckoning if Santa can tool all 8B on earth just on Christmas Eve, then Adolph was completely inept LOL.

    The whole Hollowood Hoax is sheer bunk. I searched Jutube but could find little on the subject. However Bitchute has over 174 videos showing that from an engineering, technical, logistical and ergonomic perspective, this “systemic genocide” was impossible and is bull !

    Go to Bitchute.com and search The Holocaust. The videos are fascinating to watch.

    In any case, Adolph was an amateur compared to Mao or Stalin whose touchdowns number tens of millions. The US Government is on track to utimately make all these players nincompoops both individually and as a collective.

  307. @Fox

    No Fox, it is never given, unless someone can look deeper than I can. The extent of what I’ve found is

    Sigmund Rascher … publicised the results of his freezing experiments at the 1942 medical conference entitled “Medical Problems Arising from Sea and Winter”.[20]

    I’ve also read that it contributed to the knowledge about the problem and was utilized to the benefit by all Air Forces, including the USA. I’ve written about this particular aspect of it, but now I don’t know where or when. All of the more balanced, fair-minded information has been removed from Internet pages, cleansed away. Like I said, if I had known at the time, I would have put more attention into simply archiving sources and information. What a loss!

    • Replies: @Fox
  308. @Blackstone

    I regret not taking record years ago …

    Don’t we all. But you could still have some photographs of her, even & including now at 99, and write up your own account of what she’s said. If nothing else, I would put it on my website cy.net, where I have other content from Germans who were there. Just send it to carolyn at carolynyeager.net. And thanks.

  309. @KenH

    I think the source of this problem is that most people don’t want to do any serious thinking, they just want to have fun and join in where they see the biggest crowd. Always, our problem is ourselves.

    So those of us who take it seriously need to take a disciplined, systematic approach to make the most of our limited resources. Which means, sticking to our demand for evidence and not letting them take us off course where they muddy up the issue. Keep insisting on an answer from them to your original question, is what I was getting at. Of course, we never know what will trigger a response in individual persons, so that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be guided by instinct or intuition also. You do a great job, Ken; I fully appreciate all you do and am always happy to see a comment from you. Warm regards from me to you!

    • Replies: @KenH
  310. @Mevashir

    “the entire boomer generation had its brain collectively destroyed by television and are not capable of critically thinking about anything.”

    If it is the case that “the entire boomer generation” is braindead, then why does the Jewish power structure find itself compelled to work so hard to sustain a narrative that even the braindead can easily debunk?


    Thought experiment: What would the USA look like today if Jews had not gained control of Hollywood and other media in its early days, and made of it- and through it– An Empire of Their Own?

    Which raises this query: When one –like Mevashir — refers to “the entire boomer generation,” is it the same “entire generation” that Andrew Anglin frequently pillories?

    I was born and came of age in the time-frame referred to as Boomer. My parents were immigrants, they came of age in the time of Depression; I was raised Catholic when the pride of Catholics at the election of JFK cannot be overstated, and “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” sounded like a value set we’d been taught all through our Catholic schooling.
    Numerous large cities were overwhelmingly Catholic: schools and hospitals were run by Catholic nuns and priests, and tens of thousands of Catholic “boomers” joined them and swelled their ranks.

    This Catholic cohort of Boomers existed alongside the Boomers who rioted in Chicago and burst social boundaries at Woodstock.

    In short, “the entire boomer generation” is composed of Jewish boomers and Catholic boomers. E Michael Jones has traced the tension between the leadership of the two groups: well into my teen years, I (we) Catholics consulted Catholic Church guidance as to which movies and television was acceptable. Jewish boomers, many of whom were immigrants from Eastern Europe who arrived in US with the stated intention to turn USA into a place more to their liking, bent every effort to subvert an order and value set that the Roman Catholic leadership tried to maintain — imperfectly and finally, against the efforts of the Jewish boomer cohort, unsuccessfully.

    Mondoweiss’s Phil Weiss has written that his community of Jews were intent on supplanting the non-Jewish, especially WASP / Protestant Christian “elite, perhaps taking advantage of the emasculated state of WASP leaders who too-late realized they’d been duped into decimating their European forebears.

    Back to the thought experiment: What would USA look like today if Catholic boomers had retained control media rather than the Jewish cohort?

    [As I understand the mindset of that “transgenerational criminal gang”, as Jeff Gates calls the zionists & their camp followers, the selection of Irish Catholic Joe Biden was and is a special form of gloating and mockery: one who checks the boxes of zionism’s mortal enemy is set to deliver the USA into the hands of the “transgenerational (boomer++) criminal cabal.”]

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @RobinG
  311. RobinG says:
    @flyingputer

    This is humanities issue. The choice of judaic rule based on the absurdities demanding atrocities over Logos.
    ***
    Its time to kill the psychopathic parasites and progress into Logos, Common Law with outlaw status.
    ***
    Its time for the final hunt or accept the choice to be fully subjugated under “the jew” …</blockquote

    "The final hunt… ??" (Are you an FBI provocateur? Mossad? ADL?)

    • Replies: @flyingputer
  312. Mulegino1 says:
    @geokat62

    Interestingly enough, Magda Goebbels’ photograph appears as a “victim” of the Holocaust at Yad Vashem:

    https://codoh.com/library/document/how-to-become-a-saint-and-get-canonized-through/en/

    The March 19 issue of Olo­dogma contained an article titled « La catena di montaggio dei morti olocaustici, Magda Goebbels nel database dello Yad Vashem » (Holocaust death assembly line…. Magda Goebbels in the database of Yad Vashem Memorial) tells us about a masterminded hoax.

    The Italian daily Corriere della sera had called upon relatives or friends of “Holocaust” victims to submit their names to the Yad Vashem Memorial in Jerusalem «con la promessa che verranno verificati e inseriti nel database» (certifying that these names will be checked then inserted in the database). The person in charge of the Olodogma site played a little prank (which incidentally was not his first) in order to demonstrate that the database of Yad Vashem Memorial is far from reliable.

    His report:

    “Yet again we are in a position to prove that the estimate of holocaust dead as put forward by Yad Vashem Memorial of Jerusalem is not credible, because anyone, with a few clicks, may feed a false identity into its database. From just one name to an infinity of names. It is merely a question of the time you have on hand and of the will to do so…. Or a question of need …”

    Edith Frolla, aka Adolf Hitler, ad Yad Vashem (actually Magda Goebbels)
    Edith Frolla
    (Only at Yad Vashem)

    Olodogma displays a screen capture from the site of Yad Vashem (one might guess that it won’t be there for long) proving the recording of a totally fictitious gassed victim invented for the sake of demonstration by revisionists—in this particular case one Edith Frolla!

    Edith Frolla is… an anagram of Adolf Hitler!
    Her date of birth (April 20th, 1889) is … Adolf Hitler’s!
    Her occupation (painter): is … just like Hitler’s!
    Her address: 29, via della Lungara, is the address of the Regina Coeli prison in Rome (Italy)!
    The photograph of the subject is a world-known picture of …. Magda Goebbels, Joseph Goebbels’s wife!
    Edith Frolla is supposed to have been gassed at the camp of Maïdanek by carbon monoxide.
    Olodogma’s spokesman concludes:

    “No one checked the slightest element! No control! Not even the picture! And then one tells us that Yad Vashem Memorial, which is to Holocaustianity what the Vatican is to Catholicism, abounds with irrefutable ‘proofs’ testifying to the millions of victims of said Holocaust. One is almost bound to laugh heartily!”

    As for the antirevisionist law which was on the verge of being passed in Italy, it seems that it is presently taking a nap at the bottom of some drawer in some Roman ministry.

    http://tinyurl.com/kd5d56g

    So much for rigorous due diligence at Yad Vashem. All it takes is a photo and a name to join the victims’ club; no serious questions need be asked.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  313. HdC says:
    @Petermx

    It’s my belief for almost 30 years that anything one reads/sees/hears about WWII and Germany in the mass media, the exact opposite is much closer to the truth.

  314. RobinG says:
    @FatR

    ….they are, in fact, neo-Nazis.

    The neat thing about this thread, and those of that character Raches, etc., is that it collects them all in one place.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  315. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Is this you speaking, or Phil Weiss?

    decimating their European forebears.

    How do you decimate a forebear?

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  316. anarchyst says:
    @MarkinLA

    Every jew claims to be a “holocaust™ survivor”. It is fact that there are jews in New York City, Miami, and other stateside environs who never saw the inside of a “labor camp” who are collecting “holocaust™ reparations”. In fact, in the whole of France and yes, even Germany, jews lived out their lives during WW2 without incident. You can bet that they are all receiving “holocaust™ reparations” to this day.
    Follow the shekels…

    • Replies: @Trinity
  317. Mevashir says:
    @Bookish1

    i don’t want to participate in this zine anymore, but i will give this one last shot.

    do you celebrate thanksgiving? if so, you are honoring the first immigrants. i’ve read that those first English immigrants were sent over here by corporations looking for a good investment return. and thus all immigration is backed by corporate sponsors and wealthy interests.

    between 1890 and 1920, 30 million impoverished eastern and southern Europeans immigrated into the USA. they didn’t have visas and weren’t required to.

    immigration is supported by corporate America, that’s always on the prowl for cheap labor. unions oppose immigration, but the stupid MAGAt crowd supports a repugnican party that opposes unions in place of right to work [for lousy pay and no benefits] laws.

    so assuming you’re part of the stupid MAGAt crowd, you’ve got what you deserve.

    none of us who aren’t filthy rich have any real say in this matter. focus on where you can actually make a difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyq88pHOSyw

    i think this man had a lot of insight, but today’s MAGAts would denounce him as a leftist socialist/communist:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hphgHi6FD8k&t=32s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MKb35NK0F0

    at the end of the day we all get what we deserve. if you want to play power games as if you’re a super-rich player, you’ll just waste your time become a laughing stock and see that life has passed you by.

    i don’t support either party because in my view they are good cop/bad cop gaslighters who work for the wealthy, wall street, and the zionists.

    check this out: ted cruz (who was seen in cancun when most of texas was frozen with broken pipelines across the state) is blocking biden’s ambassadorial picks by creating a bogus conflict with putin: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-ambassadors-cruz/2021/10/27/c196b770-359d-11ec-9a5d-93a89c74e76d_story.html

    like i said: you get what you deserve.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Mevashir
    , @Nancy
  318. @Hang All Text Drivers

    No, the holohoax was invented by World Jewry, the particular gas chamber narrative by the World Jewish Congress. https://carolynyeager.net/world-jewish-congress (5 articles) It took the allies a while to go along with it, because they knew via their intelligence operations that it wasn’t true. After the war, the benefits, as you state here, became more and more clear.

    The holohoax has to be separated from ‘war atrocities’ that the Allies were first focused on, as used in previous wars. This is a very important point. The Jews want to throw every perceived wrongdoing by the Germans into the same pot and call it the Holocaust, in which they are the star victims. Even their “Holocaust” must be more narrowly defined, but that is the last thing they want to do. That’s why I say we have to hold their feet to the fire (haha) and force them to stick to the issue at hand. It takes a strong determination because they are slippery, and clever.

  319. There is a morphology of the modern concentration camp! That is, the form and function of the modern concentration camp is a fact, for every modern concentration camp site!

    A debate may be created when facts about a concentration camp site become obscured and/or lost, with or without cause.

    The contributors to debates about such sites may be knowledgeable or full of little knowledge. All contributors know that no one ever asks about the existence of the very first modern concentration camp! How does the first site compare with the sites the debate concerns. That is, what was the form of the first modern concentration camp compared same with the next 49 or 99 or 149 modern concentration camps constructed.

    The very first site in Toronto, Canada received its AC power from Niagara Falls. Remember Mr. Tesla and his contribution to that invention. Only after AC power was “invented” could a modern concentration camp exist. As AC technology spread around the world, modern concentration camps with AC “juice” could be constructed. the camps that followed could not be invented, as Toronto Canada was the first site in the world to invent, that is, combine the barbed wire invention to AC power invention.

    What do you know about the Toronto Canada modern concentration camp? Did you visit the well known UNESCO world heritage site there? Did you read the book? Did you view a documentary? Did you visit or read about the interpretive centre there? How quickly did this Toronto or Canadian invention spread around the globe! How many months or years did it take for your favourite European or Siberian modern concentration camp to be approved and operated?

    For over a hundred years, Canadian concentration camp deniers have so very freely and happily demanded the denial the existence of this potential UNESCO world heritage site. Many Canadian concentration camp deniers seem to exhibit foreign concentration camp fancies, often extremely so. Canadian concentation camp deniers come from all religious groups and seem quite vocal about their foreign concentration camp fancies. Canadian concentration camp deniers seem quite evident as they enter debates about Nazi, Bolshevik and/or Chinese modern concentration camp morphology. Canadian deniers and their legal supporters see it as an international legal right to be hypocrites or tripocrites deniers in Canaada but not so when their favourite foreign concentration camp morphology is debated.

    Canadian lawyers love to virtue signal around the globe while as carded lawyers they are guilty of hate law in Canada. Canadian lawyers insert themselves bodily and brutally into foreign modern concentration camp site debates today and for over the past 100 years: generations of legal tripocrites. Canadian lawyers brutally suppress their own Canadian contentration camp histories. Canadian lawyers openly and freely promote and support the desecration of the potential UNESCO world heritage site in Toronto Canada. Canadian Lawyers. If you know a delicate strawberry Canadian Lawyer in person, grill the Canadian tripocrite about the lack of factual data of a single Canadian Law Society or anything lawyer debating this issue. Wow, dementia, amnesia, Momentary Cognitive Interruption ( permanent category), concussion, etc. are suddenly offered as a response.

    Delicate strawberry Canadian lawyers often protect other recognized groups in their blatant Canadian modern concentration camp inter-generational denial! What Canadian group has ever demanded that the desecration of Canadian concentration camp sites must legally cease or stop? Oh, zero or no group! Canadian professional planners and architects just love to exhibit their Canadian concentration camp denial. Carded architects and planners just endlesly promote desecration of Canadian concentration camp sites. Canadian Planners demand the right to cross international borders to virtue signal theimselves all over the world.

    Canadian architects are as evil as any group. Canadian architects, tripocrites on their Canadian concentration camp denial, wax above the atmosphere as they promote and virtue signal their own designs about some foreign genocide and its centre. Challenge these immoral tripocrites, working as architects, to produce free of charge centre designs for the potential UNESCO world heritage site in Toronto, Canada. The names are just so evident. Some even grew up in Toronto the good and now will claim that they remain unaware of the Toronto concentration camp history, prhaps hit with decades of medical MCI.

    Please inform yourself, all your friends, acquaintances, collaborators and your opponents of the nature of the legal desecration of the Toronto concentration camp site that may be approved tomorrow by the above groups. Yes, October 29, 2021 by the Board of Governors in the City of Toronto. This invention in Toronto over 100 years ago is directly connected to whichever is your concentration camp morphology. This institutional denial and desecration by all levels of Canadan Government is a world record of concentration camp denial. No country has denied as long as the Government of Canada has denied. Do not expect Canadian stamps, coins or culture to honestly acknowledge Canadian concentration camp denial. Perhaps your country will produce a stamp or coin first in the world. Do you expect writers, singers, opera composers, poets, visual artists, film makers, MSM, philosophers of the world to question and/or descend on their Canadian counterparts? Canadian culture has remained silent for generations on their own conscious denial. Will German, Russian, Turkish, or Han Chinese active in the culture fields of their countries delve and descend into Canadian concentration camp site desecration?

    In post # 212 of yesterday you were requested to continue your quest for justice, but to focus immediately on the Toronto concentration camp site. Just as you enter your posts on the internet for justice, it is evidence that you wish to enter into a league that recognizes justice/injustice in history. You are inside an international league, understanding international concentration camps, issues, debates and confrontations. The Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau must hear from you, yes, you who debate the international data bases. Will Trudeau have the moral judgement to motivate himself to effective action? There is no hope inside Canada today! Until the minions of closed culture of the Toronto area know that the international community is watching, maybe concerned, they will refuse to ameliorate the legal desecration that they allow. Every debater, each one of you living beyond Canada has a vital role. Speak directly or indirectly. On the internet or your own venues. Speak on the internet, mention this potential Toronto desecration in print, even if in passing.

    The public municipal meeting is accessible on/via zoom. Open the City of Toronto website, locate, watch and tape this meeting. Understand how topics like sport or finance are used as deflectors. “Hotel X” or any development proposal can be the catalyst, permanently destroying a potential world heritage site. “Hotel X” is interchangeable with the hotel proposal made recently in Kyiv, Ukraine. That hotel in Kyiv received international MSM press. See if “Hotel X” receives international MSM press. If not, why not?

    • Replies: @Anon
  320. Fox says:
    @flyingputer

    I read the word ‘divine’ in a metaphorical way. Put Nature as an Absolute and each individual as a representation of this Absolute, then it is sensible to use the word ‘divine’.

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @flyingputer
  321. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    i don’t support either party because in my view they are good cop/bad cop gaslighters who work for the wealthy, wall street, and the zionists.

    Well said.

  322. @RobinG

    they are, in fact, neo-Nazis.

    The neat thing about this thread, and those of that character Raches, etc., is that it collects them all in one place.

    and here you are.

    nb. I would guess lopping off a bear’s hind legs would eliminate at least 1/10 of its weight.

  323. Fox says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Thanks!
    Could you tell what the [20] in the boxed quote is referring to? Perhaps this reference is not lost.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  324. Trinity says:
    @anarchyst

    haha. Just like the first Woodstock in 1969. There are “6 million” old hippies are who alive today claiming to have attended that festival .

    These lying AND STUPID Jews talk about how ruthless the Germans were and how they were psychopathic killing machines with German shepherd dogs armed with poisonous canines and yet there were and are so many survivors. ROTFLMMFWAO.

    One poster already commented on why would anyone go to the trouble of tattooing someone who they were going to kill?

    Personally I don’t see how the Jews suffering is any different than how any other POW suffers. I am sure LOTS of American POW can tell you horror stories at how they suffered at the hands of the Japanese, the Viet Cong, etc. War is never pretty. According to WAR CRIMINAL General William Tecumseh Sherman, “War is Hell.”

    And lest we forget, World Jewry had already started their usual shit in 1933. World Jewry was already responsible for the starvation of millions of people in the Soviet Union and they had their sights set on Germany and probably all of Europe. Franco-Prussian War, WWI, Spanish Civil War, WWII, yep you guessed it, look no further than the same old (((usual suspects.) World War II really never ended. Immediately after WWII these Jewish interlopers set to work on America and the rest of the West. Joe McCarthy was trying to tell us something, no? Hippie movement, feminist movement, Immigration Reform Act, Swindle Whites Movement, NAACP, on and on and on. The Nose was LEADING every single movement to destroy our White Nations. IF people cannot connect the dots by now what can you really say? Probably still believe “the official 9-11 story.”

    Cue: Liar by Three Dog Night

    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  325. HdC says:
    @John Wear

    Show me proof that even one city was firebombed by the Germans.
    Hell, there isn’t even one instance where the Germans deliberately bombed civilians!
    The Brits and Yanks bombed everything in sight day and night. What more could they have done? Chemical & bacteriological warfare? Fact is Churchill contemplated this but knew full well what the blowback effect would be.

    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @MarkinLA
  326. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Jack Fell:

    -Skyrocketing inflation
    -Empty shelves
    -Clogged supply chains
    -Government enforced degeneracy
    -Unpopular mandates
    -Anti-Whiteness as policy
    -Political persecution

    The GOP:

    https://t.me/TheFallout/5879

  327. HdC says:
    @John Wear

    “Untermenschen”… Show me authenticated official German correspondence of the period in question, that uses this word.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  328. @Mulegino1

    I wonder if Franklin Ryckaert is still reading this thread?

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  329. John Wear says:
    @HdC

    It is estimated by British historian Basil Collier that 60,595 British civilians died from German bombs and V-weapons during World War II.

    My father, who was a pilot for the U.S. Eighth Air Force during the war, witnessed a woman being killed in London by a V-2 rocket.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @Anon
  330. @Fox

    Yes, it was this useless page: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/holocaust/experiside.html#free

    That’s why I didn’t mention it.

    • Replies: @Fox
  331. Fox says:
    @John Wear

    I don’t have any documentation to give evidence of that statement which is the reason why I used the term “believe” in producing it. I read it somewhere years ago and can’t remember where that was. What evidence was given there, I don’t remember either.
    However, assuming that Dr. Schilling didn’t suddenly turn from a caring, highly competent, internationally known tropical-medicine expert and physician, who was interested in meaningful results of his strive for a malaria vaccine, into a homicidal ‘war criminal’ on a killing spree, the subjects of his trial must have conformed to certain criteria. Good health and a willingness to participate would seem reasonable such criteria in order to produce results a scientist of his calibre would desire. I also remember reading that a participation was accompanied by extra food rations, stay in the sick quarter, less or different work details, etc. This would be sensible if the goal was to obtain a meaningful result. The deaths that occurred could perhaps be attributable to an infection that was overwhelming the body defenses, rather than criminal intent.
    Artificial malaria infection was used in these days also to treat late-stage syphilitics, and after several cycles of malaria bouts with the very high fever they bring about, subjects were given an effective anti-malarial drug to extinguish the infection. (Incidentally, it was German scientists who created artificial anti-malaria drugs in the 1920s, and continued with their work in the 12 years of National Socialist Germany. The famous ‘Chloroquine’ is a creation of German scientists, and was considered too toxic by them, even if highly effective, it was patented in Germany in 1936, I believe and in America in 1940, where the patent then was seized by the Alien Property Administrator. Americans took up the thread where Germans had left it and developed the drug ‘Chloroquine’, still used today). Artificial malaria infection was at the time the only hope for late-stage syphilitics. Used was, however, tertian malaria which is less severe than quartan malaria.
    Since I don’t know much about the whole affair surrounding Dr. Schilling’s fate, details are missing in my account, for example, whether Dr. Schilling was experimenting with tertian rather than quartan malaria.
    I’d like to know more about it, but I only value information from accounts which are not written with a fevered diction, starting out with the demonizing conclusion. Where can one find such information?

    • Replies: @John Wear
  332. John Wear says:
    @HdC

    You write: “Untermenschen”… Show me authenticated official German correspondence of the period in question, that uses this word.

    My response: I was quoting from American journalist Annie Jacobsen’s book “Operation Paperclip” on page 274 when I used this word. Since I was merely quoting from her book, I do not feel the need to show you “authenticated official German correspondence of the period in question, that uses this word.” If you have any documentation that this word was never used by the Germans during this period, please let me know.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @HdC
  333. Trinity says:

    Everyone stop and think what has happened to The West after we defeated those “evil Notsees.” Thanks to the “good guys” winning the “good war” we now live in a world where some guy dresses up like a female enters the female restroom and rapes and sodomizes a White female. Does anyone know the race of the rapist? I can’t seem to find out the identification of the “guy.” Anyhow as a lot of us now learned, the school transferred this rapist to another school where he raped another girl. Wonder if that victim was White as well?

    How many White women in Europe and North America have been raped by Brown hostile legal or illegal invaders? I personally don’t give two shits about legal or illegal and I doubt the victim cared either. (((Who))) is leading the charge when it comes to flooding our nations with hostile nonwhites? Hint: It taint the Chinaman, nor is it the Aye-rab nor African Dindu. The Aye-rab and African Dindu are only to glad to be used as WMD but they are only pawns.

    Look at MOST of Biden’s cabinet members. Jews and nonwhites who are all viciously anti-White, even the few Whites are white traitor trash just like Honest Joe. You can see clearly who the “bad guys” were in WWII, IF you can’t then God help you.

  334. Matt07924 says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    @Sick of Orcs

    The modern day Jewish people are not the chosen people.

    Historically this cannot be.
    Biblically this cannot be.

    When the Romans besieged Jerusalem in 70AD during Passover, they pretty much ended the three remaining tribes – Benjamin, Levites, and Judah.
    The death toll was astounding and any tribal people that survived were sold into slavery which was common in Roman times.

    There are no more Jewish Semites. The bulk of the modern day Jews hail from Eastern Europe / Baltic regions and are ‘white.’

    Ironically, the Zionists are persecuting those who are direct descendants from the Semites from whom Abraham hails from.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  335. @Carolyn Yeager

    Does this prove deception or rather naivete?
    As I said, if they really wanted to deceive, they would have reached the magic 6 million names already. It does however prove that their “method” is not reliable.

    On a humorous note: why don’t you try to pull a similar joke with them by sending your own portrait together with fake data? Then, if it succeeds, report it on your website!

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  336. John Wear says:
    @Fox

    You write: “I’d like to know more about it, but I only value information from accounts which are not written with a fevered diction, starting out with the demonizing conclusion. Where can one find such information?”

    My response: You might want to read my article at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/11/1/6354.
    Also, I discuss Dr. Schilling in my article at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/11/2/6702.

    This may not answer all of your questions, but it will be a start.

    • Thanks: Fox
  337. Mevashir says:
    @Mevashir

    Another way to answer your question is ask the Native Americans what they think about immigration! In the beginning they assisted the colonists in New England. Without the help of the local Indian tribes, the people at Plymouth Plantation probably would have all perished in that first brutal winter in 1620. Now 400 years later we see how white Americans have thanked the Indian peoples for their kindness generosity and hospitality!

    [MORE]

    If I were to ask you what the Palestinians think of immigration, you will say Hell yes: they’re right to oppose it? Yhe point is immigration, like any other topic, is supported when it benefits your group and opposed when it disadvantages your group.

    What we Americans don’t want to admit is that we live in a brutal capitalist society where people and communities have no value except insofar as they provide economic value to their corporate and financial overlords. In this sense I think that NS Germany was a great concept and a valiant effort to overthrow this brutal utilitarian form of oppression.

    I don’t see any US political party that addresses this problem. They all solicit our support but behind our backs they are in bed with the mega rich. Maybe that’s why Trump’s supporters were called MAGA, as an ironic reference to the MEGA Rich that they were going to be crushed under!

    I also wonder if MAGA could refer to the Israeli martial arts form called krav maga meaning contact fighting. I would be willing to bet that Netanyahu gave Trump this term. Maga suggests connection, which is what we all desire, but in truth the connection is just to be able to fight against us disable us and knock us down.

    When you attain this perspective, you will realize that there is no political solution. That’s why I have withdrawn from the church and from politics. I increasingly seek But Buddhist and other forms of spirituality that provide for peace of mind amidst the storm. At this point that is all I aspire to.

    Shalom

  338. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Matt07924

    If today’s Jews are not real Jews then why do they act like Jews have always acted?

    • Replies: @Matt07924
  339. Mulegino1 says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    In any case, it does not speak well for the scholarship and objectivity of Yad Vashem, the holy of holies of the Shoah pseudo-religion.

    And indeed we are dealing with a pseudo-religion, not an objective historical narrative. Lysenko himself would have been proud how the facts are forced, in Procrustean manner, to fit the fake narrative as opposed to any other disciplined historical investigation.

    Since all of the “survivors” will soon be gone, the purveyors of this big lie have found it necessary to perpetuate its “memory” by creating a new class of “survivors” who have inherited an acquired characteristic from their departed parents and great grandparents or the ubiquitous “great aunt who perished in the Holocaust”- what do they call it? Something like “Inherited Post-Holocaust-Trauma Disorder”?

    One can never overestimate the Talmudists’ propensity to distort and twist reality beyond all recognition- especially where money is to be made. Nor should one underestimate the naivete of the stupid shabbos goys who wait on their table hoping for a few scraps.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    , @turtle
  340. @John Wear

    Bingo! HdC hit the jackpot. John Wear typically uses British historians for his quotes and factoids. Sixty thousand total dead accounts for only ONE of the many and repeated multi-bomber assaults by the British on Germany. Then add the U.S. Eighth Air Force to that (in which your dear Daddy proudly participated) and we have the real holocaust of WW2.

    According to the German historian Joerg Friedrich who wrote The Fire, Germany suffered 600,000 casualties, including 70,000 children. I believe ‘casualties’ means dead, not injured. How many injured? How many homeless and displaced? We get into the millions. I’ll be a good revisionist, like John, and give the source of these numbers: The Fire, The Bombing of Germany, 1940-1945, Columbia University Press, New York, 2008 (English); 2002 in German as Der Brand, Munich.

    Okay, I know you can’t help that your father was a US Eighth Air Force pilot and was in London at the time, but still — it makes a difference. I really much prefer German revisionists. Is that alright?

    • Replies: @John Wear
  341. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Wear

    I am very very glad that my father was not in WW2 and would not be proud if he had been in the 8th air force. That means your father killed Germans. Are you of the white race? If you are then you can blow your pride out your ass. The day was not long ago that anyone who spoke against our involvement in WW2 was asking for trouble. Now on most social media sites the sympathy is with the Germans because people realize the Germans were right in fighting for their freedom and what we were doing is taking their freedom away from them. All you have to do is take a look at american cities to know that the payback is here. Many cities have died(Detroit, Baltimore, etc.) and many others are dying as we sit here.(San Francisco etc.) and those cities that aren’t dying or dead have huge swaths of areas where civilization has ceased. And all that is just the beginning.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  342. @Franklin Ryckaert

    The Jew hucksters at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem are NAIVE???? You give yourself away. Anyone who considers himself a White Nationalist and believes you are a sincere pro-White Identity, pro-European nationalist, anti-Jewish Dutchman — that is who is naive. I’ve known you to be a fake from the day I first laid eyes on a comment from you — or at least I questioned it from the first day. You can’t live in two opposing worlds, Franklin.

    Well, your father was a Dutch Resistance fighter, and all the resistance movements during the war were Jewish. They existed to save the Jews and nothing more. You’re still doing that.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  343. John Wear says:

    My father was not proud that he was in the U.S. Eighth Air Force. He went only because he was drafted. He told me if he had to do it over again, he would not have gone to war.

    I wrote about my father in the first part of the Introduction to my book “Germany’s War.” You can read it on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/. I mentioned that my father witnessed a woman being killed in London by a V-2 rocket only because HdC wanted proof that a British city had been bombed during the war.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  344. Matt07924 says:
    @anon

    @anon

    How would you know how Jews have always acted?
    How would anyone know?

    The Semitic and tribal Jews are all dead by now and none of their culture has persisted.

    The modern non-Semitic Jews faith is a continuation of the Pharisee sect that was prevalent in the time of Jesus.

    As you probably already know, Pharisaism was not part of the old covenant…it was an addition to the original covenant that was brought back from the Babylonian exile.
    It may have also travelled via the Jewish Diaspora as well.

    The main point here is that existing Jews, by and large, are not Semitic.
    It has nothing to do with how they acted before or after as I do not see anything factual one way or the other.

  345. John Wear says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    You write: “John Wear typically uses British historians for his quotes and factoids.”

    My response: The book a got my information from is titled “To Destroy a City: Strategic Bombing and Its Human Consequences in World War II.” This book was written by Hermann Knell, a German who was in Germany near the end of the war.

    Hermann Knell writes on pages 333-334 of this book: “German bombs and V-weapons killed 60,595 British civilians. The estimates of German civilians killed vary considerably. They range from 410,000, to 570,000, to 800,000.” British historian Basil Collier was mentioned by me because Hermann Knell’s footnote says this is where he got his 60,595 figure.

    I read both German and English sources as long as the German sources have been translated into English, which is the only language I speak.

  346. anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @cohen

    Now several miniature holohoax museums are mushrooming all over globe places like …, UAE

    As a muslim, I am simply appalled by this, highlighted, most despicable “Ayrab” entity. Some claim that these sheikhs are crypto-juden, which I am beginning to believe now.

    In the Holy Quran, the Almighty One exhorts us true monotheists to never ally with the enemies of Islam, and the oppressors of muslims. There can be no greater enemy to Islam than the Judenscum… and supremacist Whitevils too.

    How a seemingly “Islamic” entity consciously ignores this exhortation by mankind’s Creator, is simply beyond my comprehension. For what? To stay in power? Curse them all.

  347. @RobinG

    Typo, supposed say “muslim”.

  348. turtle says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Hitler was not the Devil but just a man

    Eagerly awaiting the Eva Braun recording of Stand by Your Man. No doubt it will be a bestseller.

  349. @Mulegino1

    Such epigenetic effects are well-established now. I expect that they would be rife among Palestinians, but probably masked by the effects on endless trauma inflicted by their brutal, racist, oppressors. That the Holocaust Industry would use this effect to continue their business model is hardly surprising, is it.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  350. @sardar

    How like a ‘human suppository’ Bennett is, smoothly rounded for easy insertion. These we must worship as they commit every crime against humanity known.

  351. Trinity says:

    Lest we forget Herman Rosenblatt who appeared on the Orca Winfrey show. Typical JEWY behavior and psycho\$is.

    STEREOTYPES exist for a reason.

  352. Why not talk about Jewish supremacy?
    Or the fact Jews ran the slave trade and only 1% of Americans owned slaves but 100% of Jews owned at least a house slave.

    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  353. KenH says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    I appreciate the compliments and welcome your comments since you always add value to a discussion/thread and constructively challenge me and others to think about the positions we take. Also keep up the good work on setting the WWII historical record straight.

  354. @Zachary Smith

    The story is unbelievable on many points.
    Hollering and banging for two minutes and then complete silence. Five minutes later the doors were opened.
    So this deadly poison that kills everyone in two minutes, even if they hold their breath for most of that time, doesn’t kill the people opening the door five minutes later. It reminds me of the magic “Skripal” case in the UK.

    Twenty minutes later, the “Kommandos” opened the doors and a crowd of bodies fell out.
    They were contracted, and it was almost impossible to separate one from the other.
    A tangle of bodies, very hard to separate, yet they “fell out”. Which is it?

    Police detectives are trained to spot fake stories. One thing they learn is that liars go into great detail. They explain everything. The story gets complicated. The guards didn’t just beat the prisoners with sticks. They beat them “with different kinds of sticks”.

  355. @Trinity

    “One poster already commented on why would anyone go to the trouble of tattooing someone who they were going to kill?

    “Personally I don’t see how the Jews suffering is any different than how any other POW suffers. I am sure LOTS of American POW can tell you horror stories at how they suffered at the hands of the Japanese, the Viet Cong, etc. War is never pretty. According to WAR CRIMINAL General William Tecumseh Sherman, ‘War is Hell.’”

    Valid observations, to be sure. . . .

  356. anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    @mcohen #22

    “If it was not 6 million then you have proof of how many actually perished. . .”

    If you make the accusation without proof, in many countries, especially in Europe, you get 5 years in prison; but if you have proof, they give you 20 to life. “Holocaust denial,” you know, is a crime, and the truth is no defense. Ask David Irving.

    • Agree: John Wear
  357. Imagine something widely believed to be a historical fact — influencing vast portions of the population and subsequent events in history — without any compelling direct physical or archeological evidence.

    It could take, say, 2000 years or so before something like that was permitted to be openly questioned.

  358. anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    “Why Not Question ‘the Holocaust’ in Schools?”

    Because it shouldn’t be taught in the first place. It’s a piece of unsubstantiated Jewish religious doctrine, and belongs in the Schul and not the school.

    Btw. “History is a lie!’ – Orson Welles, appearing on the Dick Cavett show in the 1970s.

  359. @Carolyn Yeager

    “…all the resistance movements during the war were Jewish. They existed to save the Jews and nothing more…”

    You simply don’t know the history of WWII and you don’t understand nationalism.

    • Agree: RobinG
    • Thanks: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  360. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Jack Fell:

    Hey, remember when our benevolent government dragged ass on sending out paltry stimulus checks to Americans after they shut down the economy due to a virus they used our taxes to fund the creation of? Sure you do, pleb.

    Turns out the government needed to save that cash for half a million each for 3rd world parasites invading our country to replace us.

    https://t.me/TheFallout/5894

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @Katrinka
  361. geokat62 says:

    Gab comment posted by Write Winger:

    We’re witnessing the amalgamation of the Bolshevik Revolution, the Weimar Republic, East Germany post WWII, the “Spanish Flu” (mass death by immune suppressing “vaccines”), and the Holodomor all at the same time.

    https://gab.com/A_I_P/posts/107181788752429229

    • LOL: Trinity
  362. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1

    you and unz and wear have got to stop the pilpul.

    the evidence is in the ground at treblinka or it’s not.

    if the amount of ash isn’t nearly enough for 900k, then we’ll know the whole thing is fake.

    go dig!

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  363. turtle says:
    @Mulegino1

    “survivors” who have inherited an acquired characteristic

    Either Jews can inherit acquired characteristics, in which case they are not of this world,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Weismann

    Or else this entire narrative is bunk.
    So, which is it?

    There were also claims of Jews born without foreskins. None of these claims, he said, were backed up by reliable evidence

    I bet my money on the bobtail nag.
    Somebody bet on de bay.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  364. turtle says:

    I read both German and English sources as long as the German sources have been translated into English, which is the only language I speak.

    You should learn to at least read German. German and English are Germanic languages. They are closer than you realize.

  365. Skeptikal says:

    It is a mistake to teach “The Holocaust” outside the context of the development of the Third Reich and its movement toward war.

    IMO the best way to introduce the subject is via personal stories of both Germans, such as the memoir of Joachim Fest, and Jews such as Victor Klemperer. There are many othersThese are not only the “Jewish” viewpoint, but also the German one. You can get a very good feel for the reactions of Germans—the writers and their friends—to the run-up to and execution of the totalitarian Nazi regime, and the growing persecution of Jews, especially after war was declared in Sept. 1939, after which point no Jews could leave.

    IMO this—understanding the development and features of the totalitarian regime— is the missing piece in understanding the Third Reich and WW2 from the pov of all Germans, including Jewish Germans. Focusing just on the Jewish genocide becomes a really unhealthy distortion and obsession with the wrong goal.

    It is pointless to haggle over the numbers of people killed in the concentration camps.
    It is pointless for Jews to claim to be the only victims of the war and to have played no role whatsoever in driving events (I mean, the Jewish boycott).

    I do think all who engage with this subject should first read the statement of Rudolf Hoess, and also listen to his testimony at his Nuremberg trial. Per Hoess, it was Eichmann who kept track of the numbers of people killed at Auschwitz.

    https://famous-trials.com/nuremberg/1932-hoesstestimony

  366. Fox says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Carolyn, I did now look at the page the you sent the address for. It is indeed just rubbish, evil rubbish, however. They didn’t even leave out the apparently indispensible Dr. Mengele.
    When asking, I thought that you might know what the [20] in the original comment 311 means. It’s a reference, I thought, that would tell either which medical conference is was or even better lead to the proceedings of it. I couldn’t find that number in that ‘nova’ page.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  367. @Francis Miville

    Perfectly normal: the original document, written in William Shakespeare’s fair hand is corrected and edited — with a ball point — to create a Hollywood blockbuster best-seller. Saves retyping the whole thing, I suppose. Some professor!

  368. @Franklin Ryckaert

    It’s your job to actually dispute that the Resistance movements were NOT Jewish with facts and evidence, not to simply say that I don’t understand! I don’t understand what? It’s you who don’t understand and that’s why all you ever do is reply with a jewish wikipedia page.

    you don’t understand nationalism.

    You don’t understand war.

    Give proof that the French and Dutch Resistance orgs were not Jewish-run, or admit that you can’t. Stop your bluster.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  369. Mulegino1 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    No, it’s not surprising at all that the Talmudic mindset would freely invent this crap; its talent for lies and falsehood comes from its father the Devil.

  370. Trinity says:

    What should be taught in schools is that Jews were kicked out of nations on 109 different occasions. What should be taught in schools is what led up to the Jews having a rough go of it in Germany. Did not Germany welcome fleeing Jews with open arms only to have those same Jews stab them in the back later? Even in 2021 we can clearly see the same behavior exhibited. As a whole I find Germans to be fair minded, altruistic and reasonably pleasant although a bit stiff ( only kidding.) The Jew as a whole is completely the opposite. Very predatory, very conniving, slithery, and loathsome. I am sure there are always exceptions to the rule, but just my general impression. I would tend to take a German’s word over that of a Jew not because of bias or prejudice but just because of what I see with my own two fading peepers. I mean how dare Germany and Germans for refusing to eat out of garbage cans and be enslaved by world Jewry like the Russkies. How dare they. lolol.

    Oh, and we can probably imagine what the Germans were going through before the rise of Hitler. Just look around you, America. As one poster already commented, Honest Joe is ready to hand out big bucks of your money to illegal invaders while Americans starve. 450 THOUSAND per individual and up to 1 MILLION per family.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @geokat62
    , @geokat62
  371. @RobinG

    Kill one in ten of them.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  372. Mulegino1 says:
    @turtle

    Or else this entire narrative is bunk.

    Bingo!

    99% is bunk, and the other 1% is highly doubtful.

    The product of a Talmudic mindset which relies on tales which would make Baron Munchhausen look like a sober CPA by comparison.

    The Talmud claims that 4 billion Jews were murdered by the Romans in the town of Bethar. (Gittin 57b) and that they also murdered 16 million Jewish children by wrapping them in burning Torah scrolls (Gittin 58a).

    The Third Reich was a real piker compared to the Romans!

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @turtle
  373. @John Wear

    I understand that the British bombed German houses for some months before Germany responded. They could have done so sooner, but thought it an unseemly way to wage war.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  374. anon[167] • Disclaimer says:

    Various people have been using history and lies from the dawn of time to propagate their own agenda from the dawn of time. Government comes, government goes. What we need is a vote on issues instead of a vote on variable attractive ‘government representatives’. It has already been pretty much concluded that government representatives are far more likely to prefer their own future retirement over the necessities of voters who vote for them. Unfortunately in this political system which was invented by an English king long ago we have never had the right to vote on issues.
    If we the people did have that right each country in the world would be way better off today.
    Alas we the people are, according to the government of assholes, completely too stupid to vote on issues. So we are condemned to vote against ourselves in favour of bounders who will vote for anyone in parliament so long as they get their pound of flesh. Seen them grow up, seen them get ambitious, seen them go for whatever they had to support to whatever sly moves they had to make to guarantee an easy life and easy pension for themselves.
    It isn’t democracy anyway, it is only the least expensive way that really corrupt people can control the governments of numerous countries.

    • Replies: @anon
  375. anon[167] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Rothschild himself said it after he screwed the English after the battle of Waterloo: Basically I don’t care who controls the electorate because as long as I control the purse strings of a nation I control everything. Not in those words but pretty close.

  376. @Fox

    Yes, the [20] was a reference, and I looked at it — I remembered it as this Nova page. I couldn’t remember the Wiki page I was on – there’s so many – and I had closed it. I thought it was “Sigmund Rascher” but no. But here’s something I just saw on the SR page:

    In October 1942, results of the experiments were presented at a medical conference in Nuremberg in two presentations named “Prevention and Treatment of Freezing”, and “Warming Up After Freezing to the Danger Point”.[16]

    Footnote 16 is :Annas, George J.; Michael A. Grodin (1995). The Nazi doctors and the Nuremberg Code: human rights in human experimentation. Oxford University Press US. pp. 71–73. ISBN 0-19-510106-5.

    This sentence is on this Sigmund Rascher page: “After viewing a report of one of the fatal experiments, Himmler remarked that if a subject should survive such treatment, he should be “pardoned” to life imprisonment,” indicating the subjects were all under a death sentence. It’s from the same book. And also this one: “The experiments were conducted at Dachau after the high-altitude experiments had concluded. The purpose was to determine the best way of warming German pilots who had been forced down in the North Sea and suffered hypothermia.”

    “Himmler attended some of the experiments, and told Rascher he should go to the North Sea region and find out how ordinary people there warmed victims of extreme cold. Himmler reportedly said he thought “that a fisherwoman could well take her half-frozen husband into her bed and revive him in that manner” and added that everyone believed “animal warmth” had a different effect than artificial warmth.”[13] That’s from Mackowski, Maura Phillips (2006). Testing the Limits: Aviation Medicine and the Origins of Manned Space Flight. Texas A&M University Press. p. 94. ISBN 1-58544-439-1. Which indicates that this is how Science makes progress — and John Wear’s ethical complaints don’t play a big role when the stakes are high! It’s certainly not just Nazis! I honestly think the Germans try harder than most to be as decent as possible.

  377. @Mulegino1

    Big lies and telling whoppers that are impossible and “miraculous” is nothing unusual for the Jewish People — they take it in stride. LOL.

    They don’t make a clear distinction between what’s true and false, it’s more about what’s good for me or us. What’s real and what seems real is also fuzzy in the Jewish mind. They have a good sense of humor, think it’s all very funny and part of the enjoyment of life. Jews don’t take themselves seriously; at the same time they’re driven to gain control over you, to insist you respect them.

    They’re not like us.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  378. Skeptikal says:
    @John Wear

    “If you have any documentation that this word was never used by the Germans during this period, please let me know. ”

    Well, it is impossible to prove a negative. So this is an empty challenge.

    However, anyone who speaks German has zero difficulty in establishing the ubiquity of the use of this term by the Nazis and their ideologues via a few online searches.

    Gosh, people have such strong opinions but are completely helpless and do not have the basic motivation to back up or defend very basic sh–!

    You don’t even have to speak German—just recognize it! I’ll make it easy for you

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

    A Nazi Party leaflet is pictured with the title “Der Untermensch.”

    In the references is a quote (in German) from Himmler re Untermenschen.

    Siehe auch hier:
    https://germanpropaganda.org/der-untermensch/

    Honestly, I have said this before, people who wish to understand Third Reich have to learn German. Period.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @John Wear
  379. turtle says:
    @Mulegino1

    The Talmud claims that 4 billion Jews were murdered by the Romans

    On the face of it, appears to me the Jewish tribe ought to consider hiring a new “God.” Yahweh doesn’t seem to be doing much for his “”Chosen People.” Quite the contrary, in fact.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  380. RobinG says:
    @Badger Down

    Maybe if you read Solon’s post, you’d cop to why that’s impossible.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  381. anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @RoatanBill

    Lol! You just demolished the core edifices of almost all religions of the world… history books.

    Pagan faiths such as Chrizzianity (perhaps you are of this abomination?), Hindoooism, Judenism (man in god’s image?), Booddhism, etc, are all predicated on deceitful history books, and deceitful interpretations thereof.

    For example, how can “3 persons in 1,” make any sense at all? It simply does not pass the smell test. Same can be applied to all other pagan faiths mentioned above.

    Except of course, the only clearly defined true monotheist faith in world history. God is One.!!, does not require any books to confirm it. Yeah?

    It sure must suck to be your kind, the accursed pagan godless racists destined for an eternity in Hell. 🙁

    😀

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  382. RobinG says:
    @Skeptikal

    You wrote to the wrong person.

    I’ve thought this before (like 10 minutes ago when I replied to the Badger), people who wish to argue coherently have to learn English. Exclamation point.

  383. John Wear says:
    @Badger Down

    You write: “I understand that the British bombed German houses for some months before Germany responded. They could have done so sooner, but thought it an unseemly way to wage war.”

    My response: You make a correct statement here. The British began bombing German civilians on May 11, 1940, the day after Winston Churchill took control in Great Britain from Neville Chamberlain. Germany did not begin bombing British civilians until September 1940.

    Hitler had never wanted to go to war against Great Britain, and certainly never wanted to bomb British civilians.

    • Agree: HdC
  384. John Wear says:
    @Skeptikal

    HdC had challenged me as follows: “ ‘Untermenschen’… Show me authenticated official German correspondence of the period in question, that uses this word.”

    I had read the Wikipedia reference you cite. I was thinking of giving HdC this reference, but decided not to because I didn’t know if he would have considered this to be “official German correspondence of the period in question.” Since I was merely quoting from Annie Jacobsen’s book “Operation Paperclip,” I didn’t feel the need to do extensive research on the matter.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  385. grettir says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    How excellent you are! Sometimes abrasive, but that can’t be helped.

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
  386. anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @BL

    ensuring that those with issues aren’t let anywhere near the schoolhouse.

    Should that not apply to your pagan godless churchhouses too?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58801183

  387. Kikl says:

    Critical race theory is turning Blacks against whites. White guilt is based on slavery and the Holocaust.

    I hope that this will fuel a Critical discussion of the Holocaust.

  388. @Anonymous

    Einsatzgruppen A (Baltic countries to Leningrad –then stuck)–Einstatzgruppen B through Ukraine –headed Moscow –stuck) Einsatzgruppen C to Stalingrad –again halted) were the riflemen –they enter village-hamlet – town–take census —collect all Jews-Gypsies- Communists day 1 and on day 2 dig big pit and execute the lot of them—however, this proved too slow. Advance was gas chamber vehicles but it was too slow –. Then the camps in Poland —for faster dispatch and closser to big populations of Jews from Warsaw ghetto——Nazis and Prussian background are very efficient and kept records–get them out and check ——persons shot by gun ( Slalnacker has detailed records for Eiusatzgruppen A —day by day accounts —where –name of cmmunuity —and who they shot —Make/Female–Jew -gypsy and Othes ( Communists) and surely there are counts of who entered these camps —CONDUCT an Audit —has anyone seen Arthur Andersen lately ?

    • Troll: Petermx
    • Replies: @John Wear
  389. Anon[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Barbed Wire Bob

    “Remember Mr. Tesla and his contribution to that invention. Only after AC power was “invented” could a modern concentration camp exist. As AC technology spread around the world, modern concentration camps with AC “juice” could be constructed. the camps that followed could not be invented, as Toronto Canada was the first site in the world to invent, that is, combine the barbed wire invention to AC power invention.”

    >>> You must be some kind of moron? Tesla’s entire extended (Serbian) family was exterminated by Croatian Ustashas at the beginning of ww2 in Croat’s concentration camps. And no AC was precondition for their existence. More information in the neighbouring thread about Croatian concentration camp Jasenovac.

    Why the word ‘invented’ is under quotations?

  390. @anonymous

    Thanks for your concern, but I’m just fine with my atheism. It was the 3 in 1 nonsense that made me question all the ridiculous teachings of the nuns in grammar school that prompted my conversion away from all religions.

    So, you see, there is no one of any consequence to curse me, paganism is excluded by atheism, atheism means godless and the racist mention just means you’re making things up as there’s no racial mention in my post.

    BTW there is no hell or heaven, also no purgatory or limbo. Any intelligent person will have figured that out by adulthood, so I’ll put you in the other camp, along with coward for your handle.

  391. JackOH says:

    Question: Theologians and historians and archaeologists debate the historicity of the Bible, and other religious works, and religiously important figures, right? So, what can be so awful as to stipulate to the indubitable anti-Jewish measures in Nazi Germany, which were rotten enough, and assert the question of gas chambers and planned mass murder of Jews is still open to debate? Does something terrible happen?

  392. @RobinG

    Are you of “the jew”? What a question to ask. Have you any grasp of history? Over 3000 expulsions and here we are again with the EXACT problems from the EXACT same sect. Enlarged and causing far more damage as a result of technology. Working towards the EXACT same goal.
    Insanity is repeating the same tactics expecting a different result. Both sides of “the jew” are psychopathic. This clearly includes you. You form a docile unlearned entitled herd member which the farmers milk by a method you see as your being responsible. I don’t think you’re capable of grasping the method you hand your energy to “the jew” everyday to use against us so I will leave that for you to discover. What is your answer to the jewish question? How do you like wars?

    “If my son’s did not WANT wars there would be NONE”. Gutle Schnaper Rothschild wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild on her deathbed 1849
    “Wars should be directed so that the nations engaged on both sides should be further in our debt.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    [MORE]

    Any reality to those? How do you like being subjugated and farmed under lying psychopaths?

    “It is our duty to force all mankind to accept the seven Noahide laws, and if not ~ they will be killed.” ~ Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg

    “We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America (The Jew, December, 1925, Zinobit)

    “Nowhere in the Talmud is the Star of David an endorsement of the Jews. However, the Bible does reference this to be the Star of Remphan belonging to Moloch (Satan).Most Jews don’t like to admit it but our god is Lucifer and we are his chosen people. ~ Harold Wallace Rosenthal (1947 – 1976). A senior aide to Senator Jacob K. Javits.

    How do you like feeding humanities only enemy band out of sloth? A sloth you’re probably incapable of seeing?

    “Give me control of a nations currency and I care not who makes its laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “By clever manipulation of our combined wealth it would be possible to create such adverse economic conditions that the masses would be reduced to a state bordering on starvation by unemployment.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Our goal is to win ultimate control of the wealth, natural resources and manpower of the entire world.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    Your choosing to close your mind, heart and gut to reality are a reason he said this, “Remember my children, that all the earth must belong to us Jews, and that the gentiles, being mere excrement’s of animals, must possess nothing.” ~ Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812

    You should learn why he said YOU’RE excrement! But you will, as any herd animal does, as the late great Capitol criminal Churchill said, “Every man trips over the truth once in his life. Most pick themselves up, brush themselves off and go on their way as though nothing has happened”.

    “We fail for lack of comprehension of history”. J.I. You show the reality if that in spades. So, what is your answer? Continued fealty to “the jew” by methods you are not capable of seeing?

    • Replies: @Agnew
  393. geokat62 says:
    @Trinity

    What should be taught in schools is that Jews were kicked out of nations on 109 different occasions.

    It’s far worse than that. They actually got kicked out 1,030 times from 109 different locations.

    https://www.docdroid.net/BZHplSm/the-complete-list-of-the-1030-jewish-expulsions-in-human-history-pdf#page=38

    • Thanks: John Wear
    • Replies: @Trinity
  394. Agnew says:
    @flyingputer

    ‘The extermination of European Jewry during the Second World War was the worst genocide in human history — not only because six million totally innocent Jews were murdered by the Germans, but also because no other nation (including America) tried to prevent it.

    Indeed, there were nations which — like the antisemitic Polish nation — actually welcomed the extermination of the Jews and even took an active part in it.

    Because of centuries of Christian (and in particular Catholic) antisemitism, no one helped the Jews in their hour of need and — even when the war was over — those few Jews who survived continued to face persecution (especially in Poland). Hence the need for a Jewish haven in Palestine.’

    Do I need to say more?

    • Troll: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Badger Down
    , @flyingputer
  395. @Fox

    I apologize for my ass-umption. Using religious terms implies a fealty to pretending life is what it is not. Religion is a main avenue “the jew” and minions use to quell Adulthood and spur eternal childhood. All any “god”s demand is what well adjusted and learned Adults demand.

    [MORE]
    What reality demands for us to interact morally and peacefully. Common Law, unwritten Law is the mechanism in our lives that IS the “god” all religions steer well away from. Have you considered the true Trinity which is the alignment of head, heart and gut? When the three are aligned the straight and narrow is seen. ALL and I mean all discount at least one in all decisions of living. Usually the head. This is how “the jew” rules. We deny what you refer to as Divinity! Which is obedience to the true Trinity. To ourselves!
    I grow and trade my produce etc for over 95% of my food and produce my own heat, do all of my repairs and improvements and do not touch the frn but for what I can’t at this point avoid. I carry 0 insurances and use no banks. I have no credit cards. None of this is my choice but my Adult responsibility! Because I see “the jew” clearly. I see “the jew’s machinations and do not see these as responsible but as demanding I remain a child. Remember what Herbert Spencer said about those who carry insurances? He was right and not one who carries any can see this. Can you?
    “The result of insuring against peoples folly is to fill the world with fools”.
    Tell me you’re not surrounded by well insured fools. Those who deny reality in order to remain as a child.
    Imagine our world when we institute Common Law if you understand that well. Do you?
    How many in government, religion, medicine, finance, media and education would be outlaws? What exactly is an outlaw in Common Law? How does Common Law allow even demand outlaws be treated? Remember what G.H.W.B. said we will do when we wake up? When one accepts, sees and does not hide from reality and one has a grasp of history one course becomes clear. If the goal is to be free from evil. From “the jew”. Eradication of “the jew” and all t.h.e.y. have imposed and “taught” most to believe. Then to go HARD into the Adulthood most cry to be free of. 100% personal responsibility with 0 limited liability, insurances or statute of limitations. No immunity. No consequential damages clause freeing the criminal from responsibility. Imagine a world of Adults where children cease to be children and grow up into Adults capable of and demanding 100% personal responsibility for all they do and don’t do! Parasites cannot survive among such a people. That “the jew” flourishes among us is a clear testimonial to our being farm animals by choice.

    • Replies: @Fox
  396. geokat62 says:
    @Trinity

    As one poster already commented, Honest Joe is ready to hand out big bucks of your money to illegal invaders while Americans starve.

    Not to worry, the GOP to the rescue!

    Telegram comment posted by Jack Fell:

    The morons in the GOP are absolutely worse than useless. They’re a reckless danger to us as a people.

    The President of the United States is literally giving away White American tax money to 3rd world foreigners actively invading our country. The GOP’s response? Attack… WHITE PEOPLE!

    This retard immediately follows up her attack on da real racist White Joe Biden by simping for black reparations.

    The GOP cannot be reformed. They are a bigger threat to us than the Democrats because they make it impossible for us to defend ourselves. Meanwhile, we’re being exploited and replaced by coalitions of parasites.

    Taxation without representation.

    https://t.me/TheFallout/5902

    • Replies: @flyingputer
    , @MarkinLA
  397. @papers

    A very good rule of thumb when measuring Jewish influence over a nation is whether they have Holohoax laws designed to prevent objective fact-checking.

    Very good to know that according to this rule of dumb logic Jews have little influence over the US and a lot of influence over Hungary.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  398. John Wear says:
    @GomezAdddams

    There were no homicidal gas chambers in any of the German camps during World War II. For more information, please see my article at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/12/1/7200.

    For information on the so-called “Holocaust by Bullets”, please see my article at
    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/13/1/7720.

    • Agree: HdC
    • LOL: Skeptikal
  399. @geokat62

    “We fail for lack of knowledge”. http://www.losthorizons.com
    Don’t claim “it” does not “work” or is not valid. There are many ways to avoid federal and state income taxes. Regardless of where or for who one trades their time, energy and skill for frn’s. Adults know this. Children refuse to even look at alternatives or, get this, the very law they believe exists making them liable! Most ask their parens patriae’s minions, lawyers, to tell them how to behave. Exactly as a child asks parents and for the same reasons though based on different causes. I’m going on 66, worked in the building trades all my life, cashed literally thousands of checks, owned and own property with exactly 0 paid in either state or federal income taxes, etc 100% lawfully. How? I BOTHERED to learn the rules that govern my life! As ANY and ALL Adults do and not one child either knows they can do or wants to do or for the most part are incapable of doing. Learn what Pete has to teach then you will see your “fair share” from a different perspective.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  400. @RobinG

    Maybe if you understood the question you asked, you’d see that my answer is correct and that its possibility is entirely irrelevant.

  401. geokat62 says:
    @flyingputer

    “We fail for lack of knowledge”.

    https://www.losthorizons.com/

    I clicked on the link and found this introductory paragraph:

    THIS WEBSITE IS DEDICATED to helping American men and women resume their rightful stature as the masters and mistresses of their own lives and fortunes, just as was intended by the founders of this great country. Achieving that end involves nothing more than 1.) gaining an accurate understanding of our legal, economic and political structure as designed and implemented in our fundamental law; 2.) learning how that structure has come to be widely misunderstood by the American people generally; 3.) learning how that general misunderstanding is broadly and deeply exploited by private interests; and 4.) standing up and insisting that the law be administered and upheld as written. It’s that simple.

    It’s that simple, huh? I wish it were so. If this website truly wishes to achieve its objective of “helping American men and women resume their rightful stature as the masters and mistresses of their own lives and fortunes,” they need to include a fifth step… how to properly address the JQ.

    They should, for instance, take a page from Andrew Torba and include concrete steps that will help to establish a parallel economy and society.

    • Replies: @flyingputer
  402. Skeptikal says:
    @John Wear

    Challenging others to “disprove” this and that is a very old trick.

    It’s a shame that “Holocaust denial” and “denial of Holocaust denial” has taken over the historical inquiry of this period in history.

    The magnetic attraction of the Nazis and now, the “Holocaust,” means that a lot of people develop and broadcast strong opinions without having the chops to understand the period, or to know what they don’t know.

    In the case of “the Holocaust,” it seems to be considered legitimate to discuss it as an event, or phenomenon, isolated from context and previous history. This is similar to the treatment of other historical events that end up as discrete-from-context myths—such as, say, Columbus’s “discovery of America” or “the first Thanksgiving”—not as events embedded seamlessly in complex threads of history.

    “The Holocaust” should not be a discrete curriculum item. This label is already a clear framing inviting “denial” or “denial of denial.” This kind of approach prevent high school students from coming to this period of history with open minds to absorb different types of sources and information.In my experience, personal accounts are extremely interesting, and revealing. I think they are a good way to introduce the study of the Third Reich in high schools.

    I have read quite a few of these as well as many of the standard histories. I am currently reading a very readable account that is a family history that asks, IMO, the right questions about Germans’ reactions to events before, during, and after the Third Reich. Svenja O’Donnell, “Inge’s War: A German Woman’s Story of Family, Secrets, and Survival Under Hitler” (Viking 2020). Another fascinating read is Irmgard A. Hunt, “On Hitler’s Mountain: Overcoming the Legacy of a Nazi Childhood” (HarperPerennial, 2005). Both of these have family and other photos. The former is mainly about events in Koenigsberg, East Prussia; the latter, Berchtesgaden, Bavaria.

    The more I read, the more convinced I become that it is impossible to understand the Jewish genocide that was initiated after the beginning of the war without understanding what came before—the degradation of the country after WW1, the forces that tore apart Weimar Germany and led to violence in the streets, the run-up to Hitler’s Machtergreifung, the imposition of a totalitarian system on the country with very partial understanding of what that made possible—and then the war years, leading to the hyper-crackdown on civilian life especially after the Stalingrad debacle.

    It looks to me as though we are seeing the seeds of the imposition of a totalitarian system in the USA, under cover of the extended covid “event.” Things are already well advanced in Australia and New Zealand. Travel restrictions are among the first types of measure to gain control of the population. Consequently I think it is important to study the Third Reich not from a prurient, or obsessive, interest in numbers of people killed in camps, or in denying that anything untoward occurred during the “Holocaust,” but in order to see clearly what totalitarianism is and how it is imposed on a country and a society and what it will lead to. In the case of Third Reich Germany, via a combo of laws, terrorism (threats and fear), examples of consequences of disobedience, and outbursts of actual violence (in the streets; disappearance of enough people to make the rest super-cautious), with within a total propaganda bubble whose pricking could cost one’s life.

    It is pretty disturbing to see Germany apparently going along with the “totalistic” covid event.
    Also to see the First Amendment and medical choice being trashed in the USA.

  403. Trinity says:
    @geokat62

    110 and 1031 are longer over due. My gawd, 1,030 times. You would think people would learn after the first 1000 times.

  404. geokat62 says:
    @Trinity

    As one poster already commented, Honest Joe is ready to hand out big bucks of your money to illegal invaders while Americans starve.

    It seems the “private sector” is also backing this project, with racial audits to narrow the wealth gap.

    STEW PETERS SHOW
    Marxist Racial Audits Begin, Citibank Spends \$1 BILLION for “Deep Dive”

    A deep dive into Citibank’s business will be conducted by lawyers at Covington & Burling, and will focus on Citi’s 2020 commitment to dedicate \$1 billion to initiatives aimed at closing the racial wealth gap in the US.

    Carlos Cortez joins us now to discuss the disgusting new idea of racial audits

    https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/10/marxist-racial-audits-begin-citibank-spends-1-billion-for-deep-dive/

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  405. John Wear says:
    @Skeptikal

    You write: “Challenging others to “disprove” this and that is a very old trick” and “The more I read, the more convinced I become that it is impossible to understand the Jewish genocide that was initiated after the beginning of the war without understanding what came before.”

    My response: There was no “Jewish genocide” during World War II. If you want to study this subject, you can begin by reading Chapter Eight of my book “Germany’s War” located on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

    If you want to read a book on this subject, I recommend you read “The Chemistry of Auschwitz” by Germar Rudolf. The existence of the alleged homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau has been scientifically proven.

    I agree with you that it is a good idea to read accounts from many different people to obtain a more complete historical understanding of this period. I have done this as well, and will continue to do it in the future.

    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @Skeptikal
  406. John Wear says:
    @John Wear

    My apologies. In my recent post, I meant to say “The existence of the alleged homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau has been scientifically disproven.”

    • Replies: @utu
  407. Mulegino1 says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    They don’t make a clear distinction between what’s true and false,

    Correct.

    Talmudic Jewry as a collective, i.e.-those who consciously choose to identify with and remain within its hive- cannot distinguish between truth and falsehood because their only standard of truth in a moral sense is that “it be good for the Jews.” Thus, there is no room for ontological or transcendent truth; their logic itself is twisted.

    In the Talmudic mindset, even the Divinity has to bow down in deference to the Rabbinical consensus.

    This is obviously going to lead to the absurd fantasies of the Shoah religion. It puts the Jews first as righteous victims and entitled “world citizens” and Jewry as the center of the universe.

  408. Mulegino1 says:
    @turtle

    Most of the Zionists did not even believe in God, but they did believe that He promised them Palestine.

  409. utu says:
    @John Wear

    “The existence of the alleged homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau has been scientifically disproven.” – Not true. At best one could claim that no more than N people were gassed in facilities that were designated as gas chambers in Auschwitz after WWII, where N has to be specified. German Rudolf from the concentration of Prussian blue in the walls could not come up with highest estimate of N and certainly he could not and did not claim that N=0. So it is is entirely possible that N=300,000 0r 500,000 are viable.

    John Wear, your judgment and reasoning abilities were exposed by your very vocal position on Covid-19. On Covid-19 you took the position of wackos, kooks and the feebleminded and that of Russian and Chinese bots and trolls. It will be impossible from now on to convince anybody that you are capable of sober minded analysis and thinking things through on your own and thus your opinions on Holocaust can’t be taken seriously.

  410. Mulegino1 says:

    I meant to say “The existence of the alleged homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau has been scientifically disproven.”

    For any other recent historical narrative, that would be a problem. But as you know, we are not dealing with a narrative that is subject to any kind of rigorous empirical scrutiny, historical or forensic.

    No, we are dealing with a pseudo-religion, a “meta-historical” event which cannot face any kind of real impartial or objective investigation.

    This is evinced in statements like the following:

    “The question of how technically such a mass murder was possible should not be raised. It was technically possible because it occurred. This is the necessary starting point for all historical investigation on the subject. It has fallen to us to recall that point with due simplicity: there is not nor can there be a debate over the existence of the gas chambers.

    The above is – a petitio principii, a fallacy of the first magnitude, as if some pouting “French”intellectuals think that their false consensus can overturn the rules of logic in deference to their pseudo-mystical interpretation of an event which demonstrably did not occur.

  411. @Zachary Smith

    Even when questioning various facts about Jewish deaths under the Nazis, many activist Jews go apoplectic when question the number 6 million. If I said that 4 million or 5 million Jews died under the Nazis, isn’t that horrific in itself? The insistence and persistence of 6 million narrative and not one less makes me think some kind of gematria is/was going on.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  412. John Wear says:
    @utu

    You write: “On Covid-19 you took the position of wackos, kooks and the feebleminded and that of Russian and Chinese bots and trolls. It will be impossible from now on to convince anybody that you are capable of sober minded analysis and thinking things through on your own and thus your opinions on Holocaust can’t be taken seriously.”

    [MORE]

    My response: I am not a scientist or medical doctor. However, my conclusions on the COVID-19 conform to the research of the following people:

    1. Dr. Carrie Madej, D.O.
    2. Dr. Andrew Kaufman, M.D.
    3. Dr. Lee Merritt, M.D.
    4. Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, D.O.
    5. Dr. Christiane Northrup, M.D.
    6. Dr. Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.
    7. Dr. Rashid Buttar, D.O.
    8. Dr. Joseph Mercola, D.O.
    9. Dr. Kelly Brogan, M.D.
    10. Judy Mikovits, PhD
    11. Dr. Thomas Cowan, M.D.
    12 Dr. Andrew Wakefield, M.D.
    13. Dr. Peter McCullough, M.D.
    14. Sucharit Bhakdi, PhD
    15. Dr. Dan Stock, M.D.
    16. Geert Vandeen Bossche, PhD
    17. Michael Yeadon, PhD
    18. Dr. Vernon Coleman, M.D.
    19. Dr. Robert W. Malone, M.D.
    20. Dr. Simone Gold, M.D.
    21. Sunetra Gupta, PhD
    22. Dr. Meryl Nass, M.D.
    23. Dr. Samantha Bailey, M.D.
    24. Dr. Ryan Cole, M.D.
    25. Dr. Roger Hodkinson, M.D.
    26. Dr. John Lee, M.D.
    27. Dr. Marty Makary, M.D.
    28. Dr. Charles Hoffe, M.D.
    29. Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, M.D.
    30. Beta Stadler, PhD
    31. Dr. Peter Breggin, M.D.
    32. Dr. Stella Immanuel, M.D.
    33. Dean Brooks, PhD
    34. Eddy Bettermann, M.D.
    35. Ted Noel, M.D.
    36. Roberto Petrella, M.D.

    I think these people are very credible.

  413. @Carolyn Yeager

    “…It’s your job to actually dispute that the Resistance movements were NOT Jewish…”

    Have you ever heard of the sayings “the burden of the proof is on the accuser” and “one cannot prove a negative”?

    In my country there was resistance from both Jews and from non-Jews, but that does not mean that the Jews controlled it, and that without Jews it would not have existed.
    The latter point you are unable to understand because you cannot fathom why a people would resist being invaded and oppressed by such angelic beings as Nazis.
    A hint to your understanding might be that our soldiers actually fought the invading Germans, instead of welcoming them with cheers.

    • Agree: RobinG
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  414. HdC says:
    @Maddaugh

    To substantiate my “agree” position I offer the following experiences:
    I read the Toronto newspapers on-line, and also read lewrockwell.com and Reason Magazine. In the past I also read Chronicles, a magazine of American Culture (whatever that is!) until I got thrown off for being “disrespectful”, I think.

    In the mid to late 2000’s the Toronto papers and Chronicles permitted critiques of any article that covered the ever popular and lucrative holocaust. No more.

    On a practically daily basis these papers have opinion pieces of the type This Jew recalls this atrocity, that Jew remembers seeing his cousin/brother/sister/mother, etc. walking into the gaschamber, these treasures were stolen by the Nazis from my parents/grandparents/uncles/cousins, etc.

    And nary a critique is permitted nowadays! The most outrageous assertions regarding the foregoing topic are made on the CBC web page, with never a correction made. I suppose that 6 million less 3 million equals 6 million according to the new math.

    Just wait until those educated in this math are required to design bridges, buildings, airplanes, etc.
    No wonder certain counties don’t want nuclear power plants designed and operated by these types.

    • Replies: @Maddaugh
  415. anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mevashir

    Germans are too nice a people to ever have committed the atrocities alleged against the

    We all agree… the juden are scum.

    But, history has shown that the whitevil race has been the most psychopathic, mankind has ever known. The Krauts, Americunts, Limeys, they are all the same.

    In most cases the juden are indistinguishable from the whitevils (such as certain euRapeans, like the slavoids, or the darker eyetalians). You are cousins. Your faith is the bastard child of judenism. I present the pagan garbage, “man created in the image of god,” as evidence.

    It is fun to watch the judenscum do their part in rotting away the accursed christian evilisation, from the inside. I pray that your evilisation never recovers.

    With regards to, “Krauts are too nice a people…” … no one with such a creepy (and faggot-y) salute can be “nice.”

    • Replies: @HdC
  416. John Wear says:
    @utu

    You write that my opinions on the Holocaust can’t be taken seriously.

    My response: I am certainly not the world’s leading expert on the so-called Holocaust. In my opinion, the best Holocaust revisionists are Carlo Mattogno, Germar Rudolf, Dr. Arthur Butz, Dr. Robert Faurisson and Jurgen Graf.

    I have written a number of articles on the so-called Holocaust at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/columnists/2873. If you have any questions or comments about what I have written, please let me know.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  417. @utu

    Says the BigPharma troll who peddled every establishment CoViD19 lie and disinformation with the gusto of the true believer-or true recipient. Accusing your betters of being Russian and Chinese trolls and bots is the mark of a really low type of regime lackey-a veritable sonderkommando.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @RobinG
  418. @geokat62

    What in the name of idiocy makes these moves ‘Marxist’? It’s just a boogey-word far Rightists use to get their dander up.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  419. Maddaugh says:
    @HdC

    That’s correct. What floored me is that one “death camp” reduced their total murdered in the gas chambers from 2,000,000 to 42,000 to 78,000. Incredible. However, if the 2M was wrong and the 42K was wrong, how do we know the 78K is right?

    Further, when cornered these “death” camps back off their allegations and restate that rooms designated gas chambers were NEVER used as such.

    What gets me though is that they wont allow any discussion or contradiction. That alone should alert even the most naive that the whole thing is bullshit !

    If 6M did die, then prove it. Otherwise what is asserted is fake ! This whole Hollowhocks is all a tangle of Ju lies !!!!!!!! and each lie must be covered with more lies such that the whole thing is one ghastly construct.

  420. knowname says:

    Oooooo, Looks like someone stepped on some jewish toes. The holohoax needs to be questioned. It is the only historical event that has laws protecting the narrative and questioning it can land you in jail in certain parts of the world. Coincidentally every one of those parts is controlled by jews, the true monsters of the holocaust. If the general public became aware of what really happened in that war they would hang the jews by the genitals and make the gas chamber lie a reality. They started the war, they did it to hold on to control of the other scam called Private Central banking. FDR goaded Japan into attacking the US by setting up illegal oil embargoes to Japan. He also knew the attack was on the way and did nothing. FDR is guilty of treason and it’s a crime he is still on the dime. Many of FDR’s advisors were jews. Then FDR sided with the communists to satisfy the jews greed and lust for power. Most everything they say about Hitler is a lie. Hitler was the only one that didn’t want war and he made several peace attempts, all of which were ignored by Churchill. The jews are solely responsible for WWII. They started it and they got other suckers to fight for them. Wanna see what the other side says then watch Europa The Last Battle.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante, HdC
  421. @Skeptikal

    ‘The Holocaust’ is not a question of history, morality, philosophy, geo-politics or any other rational discourse. It is a pseudo-religion proselytised to raise Israel and Jews above normal human standards of behaviour and responsibility. Jews do not, indeed cannot, commit crime, even error that harms others, nor can their Holy State, Israel, ever commit ANY crime. To state otherwise, or not enthusiastically adhere to this public faith, is to be ‘antisemitic’ and be banned from society forever. And any attempt to deny one’s ‘antisemitism’ is proof positive of the Ultimate Crime. It’s quite a racket.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  422. Mulegino1 says:

    German Rudolf from the concentration of Prussian blue in the walls could not come up with highest estimate of N and certainly he could not and did not claim that N=0. So it is is entirely possible that N=300,000 0r 500,000 are viable.

    Rudolf did not find any significant traces of iron cyanide in the masonry of the alleged “homicidal gas chambers” (actually underground morgues) at Birkenau; he found a few infinitesimal traces of cyanide in them down to single parts per million- which could easily be explained by the fact that Auschwitz-Monowitz-Birkenau was an enormous industrial complex, and cyanide is used for many industrial applications.

    By contrast, Rudolf claims to have found iron cyanide compounds in the delousing chambers (which used Zyklon-B) in quantities up to 13,000 parts per million.

    Jean Claude-Pressac, the most distinguished establishment expert on the gas chambers of Auschwitz-Birkenau conceded that at least 95% of the Zyklon-B requisitioned by the camp was used for delousing, which is an implicit admission that all of it was used for delousing or fumigation purposes.

    Faced with this complete lack of evidence, the Jahn-Sehn Forensic Institute in Cracow countered, in effect, that if there were no traces of iron cyanide compounds in the gas chambers, then traces of iron cyanide must not have any evidentiary value one way or the other. This was certainly an intellectually dishonest position.

    As Rudolf himself has admitted, although important, chemical evidence is not the key to disproving the gas chamber legend- the real falsification of that is the technical and logistical impossibilities involved in gassing hundreds of thousands of people with a commercially available pesticide designed expressly for the purposes of safe (and slow) fumigation of dwellings and for delousing.

    The commonly described method of the application of Zyklon-B in the “homicidal chambers” was- according to the alleged eyewitnesses- that of dumping the Zyklon-B pellets down through holes in the roof onto the unheated floors of the underground floor signifies that the pellets would be bunched up into a pile. The correct manner of using the pesticide for fumigation (according to the technical manual ) is spreading the pellets out in thin layers throughout a dwelling (and the building must be sealed off and aired out after 24 hours). If they were dumped in bunches, the effective ingredient in the pellets, the cyanide, would not be able to evaporate.

    Also, if there were gassings involving 2,000 people or so- and this is the case according to most of the testimony of eyewitnesses- the removal of bodies from the chamber- one by one through a regular sized door- and transporting them up to the crematories via a single hand operated elevator- not to mention the airing and cleaning of the chamber- would have taken days or weeks. This does not jibe with the lines of thousands of victims waiting patiently outside their execution chamber- which was in full view of the soccer field, nor is it in any way consistent with the actual capacity of the crematory retorts.

    I believe that there were something like 52 crematory retorts at Birkenau, with a rough one hour per body capacity and a lifetime per muffle of some 3,500 cremations. The camp records indicate that none of the retorts was replaced, so this indicates that there could have been an upper number of cremations not exceeding 150,000 or so- 90,000 more than the camp death records indicate.

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC
    • Thanks: turtle
    • Replies: @turtle
  423. @Franklin Ryckaert

    You indecently took this phrase out of the whole sentence I wrote, so that you could accuse me of asking you to prove a negative. I did not. You always have to stoop very low to defend your tactics. And as I’ve told you before, you’re known for the company you keep, and RobinG seems to be it.

    I know very well how the country you live in, the Netherlands, feels about Germans. But not everyone, as evidenced by the Waffen SS Division Nederland! However, that doesn’t change the fact that your WWII illegal, underground resistance effort was initiated and run by Jews, of which you had and have lots. One well-publicized member is Jew Max Hamburger; you can read his story here: https://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/max-hamburger-says-he-is-the-man-in-the-lower-bunk/. I discovered that he was falsely claiming to be in the famous Buchenwald Lieberation photo, along with several other lying Jews, and that the photo itself is a photo-manipulation–in other words, a hoax.

    So asking you to prove the Dutch Resistance wasn’t Jewish is equal to your demand I prove that it was, because even Wikipedia says “The primary organizers were the Communist Party” and “The first to organize themselves were the Dutch communists”. We also learn from Wiki that, “Most had great trouble surviving betrayal in the first two years of the war.” That means the Dutch people were turning them in! It was only after the unfortunate famine, which was actually the fault of the British Blockade, that the Dutch people turned against the occupation.

    All you know is your father’s side of the story. Your father was a communist.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @RobinG
  424. geokat62 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    What in the name of idiocy makes these moves ‘Marxist’? It’s just a boogey-word far Rightists use to get their dander up.

    Far rightists? “Marxist” is a euphemism used by cuckservatives who are unwilling to use the words “Jewish Supremacists.”

  425. Trinity says:

    Lest we forget The Forgotten 5 million killed in those camps. So the Germans were fighting half the world on two fronts and still had time to kill off 6 muh million Jews and 5 million non-Jews in these camps. Right? Right.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  426. geokat62 says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    One well-publicized member is Jew Max Hamburger…

    Max Hamburger? Is he related to Anthony Weiner by any chance?

  427. @Brooklyn Dave

    The insistence and persistence of 6 million narrative and not one less makes me think some kind of gematria is/was going on.

    I couldn’t agree more. But what the devil is happening? I’m sure not qualified to do more than make what’ll probably look like silly speculation.

    I’ve looked at a lot of the “stuff” by Holocaust Deniers, and so far they’ve shown themselves to be quite ignorant of the event – except for one itty bitty detail. They’ve demonstrated to my satisfaction that the number “6 million” is one the Zionist propagandists simply loves. I’ve verified that a lot of pre-WW2 documents had that figure stuck in as some kind of Genuine Census Number.

    Now to the “showing my ignorance” speculation.

    The 6th day (Genesis 1:31, Exodus 16:5, Exodus 16:22, Exodus 16:29, Numbers 7:42)

    600,000 fighting men available to Joshua.

    12 Tribes a multiple of 6

    Star of David has 6 points

    Finally, the Number of the Beast. The author of Revelation used “6” three times. Might his target have been those SIX people? Yeah, this one is a far-fetched stretch..

    But you’re right, they’re sticking to 6 million like glue, though the horror wouldn’t be diminished much if it was 1 million. Or increased much if it was 10 million.

    It’s a puzzle, and an ever greater one is how the Zionists have convinced so many Legislators around the world to bow to some strange Jewish Numerology.

    I’d love to read this book, but the lowest price I could find anywhere was \$80. Way too much to spend on a speculation, and I could find essentially no reviews for the tome.

    Tin-foil-hat time: is this something the Zionist billionaires want to keep out of sight?

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Rosette
  428. Rosette says:
    @david s

    In other words we have to know everything under the Jewish sky about a non event that never happened… but we can’t release our brains from all the bullshit generated by such non sense? What a load of crap… Jewish crap!

    • Thanks: Trinity
  429. Trinity says:
    @Zachary Smith

    “Jewish Book Of Numbers” for only 80 bucks. ROTFLMMFWAO. Hey, I keep seeing 1212 all the time. Car tags, trucks, clocks, etc. I keep playing that number on Cash 4 and no luck. Oy vey. 1+2 = 3 and 3 + 1+ 2 = 6. Bwuhahahaha.

    Happy Halloweiner.

  430. Why not? The number of 6million needs to be questioned, there is much evidence that 6million were not killed.

  431. RobinG says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Your circle of fallacies –

    __ All resistance are commies
    __ All commies are Jews
    __ therefor all resistance are Jews

    Too bad, all 3 are false, and not just in the Netherlands.

    CY, the queen of the Circular Fallacy Squad. LOL.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  432. @Trinity

    Don’t forget Trinity, they didn’t just have to kill them but had to dispose of their bodies without a trace.

    One has to question why the Jews covered over so many claimed burial sites with concrete or big, sharp pointy rocks, and similar forms of permanent covering. It’s a testament to their power that that doesn’t raise suspicion, lol.

    The alleged burial site at Babi Yar became a parking lot. No images available of the parking lot.

    Belzec:
    Treblinka: https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/treblinka-poland-memorial-site-of-nazi-extermination-camp-active-from-picture-id173398082?s=594×594

    • Thanks: Trinity, John Wear
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  433. Skeptikal says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I guess you didn’t have time to read what I actually wrote, before rushing to compose your “denial.”

    Typical of Mumbles.

  434. Skeptikal says:
    @John Wear

    The existence of gas chambers has not been “disproven.”
    Hier kannst Du dich informieren:

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaskammern_und_Krematorien_der_Konzentrationslager_Auschwitz

    An dieser Stelle heisst es, dass 900,000 vergast und verbrannt wurden, und dass weitere 200,000 aus anderen Gruenden—Krankheit usw—gestorben sind und ihre Leichen verbrannt wurden.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
    , @John Wear
  435. @Agnew

    Yes, you need to say a lot more. I`ll leave out your long bit in the middle; I don`t see any sense in it.

    You say *six million totally innocent Jews were murdered by the Germans*
    That needs full explanation and evidence of three things: six million, totally innocent, and murdered.

    You say *Hence the need for a Jewish haven in Palestine.*
    It looks like madness. Why should totally innocent Palestinians be murdered to make way for ugly aliens? Why Palestine? Why a haven? Who else gets a haven? And how does any of this relate to what you said before?

  436. @Skeptikal

    What do you make of that detached chimney in the first photo? Is the gas chamber underground?

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  437. turtle says:
    @Mulegino1

    The correct manner of using the pesticide for fumigation (according to the technical manual ) is spreading the pellets out in thin layers throughout a dwelling

    Basic scientific comments:
    1. There are photographs of an apparatus used in the delousing chamber to heat the Zyklon B pellets, in order to drive off the lethal HCN vapor.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapor_pressure
    The fact that there were no such devices used in the alleged gas chambers suggests that any executions by poison gas in these facilities were of an ad hoc nature. That does not mean that they did not occur, only that the facilities were not designed for that purpose.
    2. The heat required to reduce a human corpse to ash is a function of a) mass and b) water content. It is not dependent on how many corpses are fed into a crematory muffle.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion

    Basic engineering comment:
    The readily available construction documents contradict the ridiculous asserti0n that this facility was designed as a “death factory.” I will refrain from exploring the details, only commenting that I.G. Farben could, and would, have done a much better job, had they been so charged.

    Were people murdered by poison gas at this facility? IMO, that is highly likely, and almost certainly the case. Was Auschwitz Birkenau a purpose built human extermination facility? I do not believe the physical evidence supports such a conclusion.

    JMO.

  438. @Carolyn Yeager

    Sorry, the Treblinka page won’t come up. Here’s another one: 17,000 symbolic stones
    or two:
    Don’t you just love it. Jewish grief is so meaningful.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  439. @turtle

    Were people murdered by poison gas at this facility? IMO, that is highly likely, and almost certainly the case. Was Auschwitz Birkenau a purpose built human extermination facility? I do not believe the physical evidence supports such a conclusion.

    JMO.

    What facility are your referring to in the first sentence? Wherein you think people were murdered by poison gas. It’s not clear, and on this topic one must be sure not to be misunderstood.

  440. @RobinG

    Well, little Robin, I already knew you weren’t very smart since you were following Franklin around, and sure enough you’ve struck out here. I DID NOT say ‘all resistance are commies,’ nor did I say ‘all commies are Jews.’ I didn’t even imply that, or that ‘all resistance are Jews.’

    Better luck next time–but you’ll need more than luck. Maybe more brains.

  441. Mulegino1 says:
    @turtle

    The heat required to reduce a human corpse to ash is a function of a) mass and b) water content. It is not dependent on how many corpses are fed into a crematory muffle.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_of_combustion

    True; I was referring to the lifetime capacity for cremations of the muffles (which of course had a need to undergo periodic cooling and maintenance).

    As Carlo Mattogno explains:

    “At the end of the 1930s, the lifetime of the fire-resistant brick in a Topf electric-heated crematory oven, was 3,000 cremations; but the 2-muffle coke-heated Topf oven at the Gusen crematorium only lasted 3,200 cremations—1,600 per muffle—after which it was necessary to dismantle it and replace the refractory masonry. Now, even assuming that Auschwitz-Birkenau was used right up to the limit of 3,000 cremations per muffle, it could have cremated a total of approximately 156,000 bodies (according to Pressac, approximately 145,000 inmates died from natural causes during this period, including Soviet prisoners of war). The cremation of 675,000 bodies, by contrast, would therefore have required at least 4 complete replacements of the refractory bricks in all the ovens. In figures, this would mean approximately 256 tons of refractory material and approximately 7,200 hours of labor for Crematories II and III alone.36

    But, the archives of the Bauleitung—which were left “intact” by the SS—contain no reference to such a monumental repair project, which means that it was not carried out. The cremation of 675,000 bodies in these facilities is therefore technically impossible.”

    • Replies: @turtle
  442. RobinG says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Let me get this straight…. you’re an adamant endorser that man-made climate change is real… AND… you reject “every establishment CoViD19 lie,,,” OK, that’s a bit odd but I know one other person with this combination of beliefs. Would be interesting to know how prevalent that is.

    But where do you sit on the Covid-lie spectrum? Is it a flu hoax, or is it real and the vaccine is a hoax, or a killer? There’s plenty of room for alternate [fervently held] beliefs.

    A neighbor of mine is another kind of anomaly…. solid MAGA and also pro-mask, pro-vaccine, to the extent she’s angry at those who don’t get the jab. Things are getting shuffled in funny ways.

  443. Mulegino1 says:
    @Badger Down

    What do you make of that detached chimney in the first photo? Is the gas chamber underground?

    It was built by the Polish communists after the war for propaganda purposes.

    The building was originally a morgue and crematorium.

    Given its close proximity to the camp hospital- a few dozen yards or so- it is highly unlikely that the Germans would have conducted executions using poison gas there.

    • Agree: John Wear
  444. John Wear says:
    @Skeptikal

    You write: The existence of gas chambers has not been “disproven.”

    My response: The existence of the homicidal gas chambers has been disproven to anyone willing to look at the matter with an open mind.

    You can read Chapter Eight of my book “Germany’s War” at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/ for more information.

    • Agree: Mulegino1, HdC
    • Replies: @whodat
  445. turtle says:
    @Mulegino1

    Yes, exactly.
    There is such a thing as physical reality.

  446. jasmin says:

    The Holocaust is more a politically useful tale than an actuality. Yes, the Jews suffered but so did many others. The Holocaust trivializes the suffering of others by insisting that Jewish suffering was unique. It does however serve the purpose of shielding Israel for its actions in Palestine that have removed the Palestinians from their lands and established an apartheid state. In addition, the tale of the Holocaust also conveys the Jewish fantasy that Jews are the chosen people of God and that non-Jews were created only to serve the Jews and therefore Jewish suffering is a direct crime against God.

    Yes, the Holocaust tale that serves a political purpose and is full of lies must be given the same status as that of critical race theory. For the Holocaust to be accepted without question and not subject to revisiting the issue is anti-intellectual and as such just propaganda.

    In fact, the broader aspects of the late nineteenth and the twentieth centuries should be taught and discussed. The history of this period reveals the combination of English imperialism and Jewish finance to be responsible in large part for the Boer War, WW I, and WWII. It will also reveal that the financial hardships of the Weimar Republic were created by manipulation of the German Mark by outside banking interests centered in England.

    Don’t expect a balanced history that does not portray the Jews as morally superior and eternal victims to ever make its way into the schools. Those who condemn critical race theory are hypocrites for not viewing the Holocaust tale as a political and financial tool of the Jews.

    • Agree: John Wear, turtle
    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Orville H. Larson
  447. @Skeptikal

    Septical writes:

    It’s a shame that “Holocaust denial” and “denial of Holocaust denial” has taken over the historical inquiry of this period in history.

    No, this is not what is shameful.

    What IS shameful is that individuals like yourself have not done the most miniscule fraction of OBJECTIVE research on the matter (relative to the likes of a John Wear for example), yet you you’re arrogant enough to claim that others are engaged in ‘Holocaust Denial’.

    It is YOU who is in denial.

    As for this statement of yours:

    Challenging others to “disprove” this and that is a very old trick.

    … the fact is, no one is asking you to disprove anything.

    The Holohoaxers claim there were 6 million Jews killed and that they met their demise in the gas chambers.

    The onus is on those of you who are peddling these claims to prove them.

    Extraordinary claims claims require extraordinary evidence.

    Not only have have the Holohoaxers not brought forward rock solid evidence, their whole case rests almost entirely on the flimsiest of verbal recollections of alleged inmates (like the despicable and known-to-be-fraudulent Elie Wiesel ).

    There are many authors you can reference for an objective analysis of the Holohoax.
    Fortunately, in John Wear we have one such individual close at hand.

    His book Germany’s War is available here in the Unz Review.

    On the Holohoax matter you need only read Chapter 8: The Alleged genocide of European Jewry to get you up to speed on the fundamentals.
    It is filled with so many gems that it’s difficult to choose one in particular.
    This is one of them:

    The ICRC (International Committee of the Red Cross) visited and inspected all of the major concentration camps right up to the end of the war.
    In response to a U.S State Dept request , the ICRC replied in a formal letter to the State Dept dated Nov. 22, 1944, that the ICRC found NO evidence of mass murder of concentration camp inmates.

    I’ll end this comment with another pearl of wisdom from Holohoax researcher Nick Kollerstrom, author of ‘Breaking the Spell – The Holocaust: Myth and Reality’.

    Taken from that book:

    The Holo-religion promotes the never-ending guilt of the goyim for having allowed such a thing to happen to God’s Chosen people.
    That is their ‘Original Sin’ and their ‘Redemption’ is achieved by the never ceasing flow of fund to Israel.

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC
    • Thanks: geokat62, turtle
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Skeptikal
  448. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Unfortunately “truth” doesn’t really matter if you do not have power to express & enforce it.
    “The truth is like a lion; you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself.”
    The lion is chained, caged, de-fanged and de-clawed because the anti-lion possesses power over it.

  449. geokat62 says:

    You probably thought the Department of Homeland Security was set up to protect the homeland against foreign threats, right goy?

    Well, you thought wrong.

    The primary purpose of the DHS is to root out domestic terrorists. That’s right, people who still retain a white identity are regarded as “extremists” that need to be dealt with… the Cheka way.

    Don’t believe me? Just watch this short speech delivered by Alejandro Mayorkas

    Sec. Mayorkas Speaks About Anti-Semitism & Rising Hate Crimes

    https://odysee.com/@ZionistReport:6/sec.-mayorkas-speaks-about-anti-semitism:2

    That speech could’ve just as easily been delivered by the ADL’s Jonathan Greenblatt.

    As a matter of fact, I’m willing to wager mayorka shekels that he probably wrote that speech… just count the number of times “hate” was used.

  450. turtle says:
    @jasmin

    It will also reveal that the financial hardships of the Weimar Republic were created by manipulation of the German Mark

    Not to mention that the Germans went to Versailles with British naval guns pointed at their heads. A naval blockade is an act of war. Germany was forced to agree to outrageous terms under penalty of seeing their civilian population starve. The British, and French, made them “an offer they couldn’t refuse” in order to eliminate Germany as a commercial rival.

    If you can’t compete, might as well send some thugs to beat up your rival, and you can steal a whole lot more with a pen than you can with a firearm. Much more “civilized,” don’t you know?

  451. @geokat62

    “Take a page”? That’s the extent of your attention level isn’t it?
    You don’t comprehend what comprehension requires. Remain as “the jew”s chattel, dumb and sure in your ignorance. The site has hundreds of testimonials you can’t be bothered with? You’re so aware of law that just a perusal of an introduction shows you all contained within? Pete shows you exactly what title 26 law is (you never even heard of title 26 have you) step by step slow enough and in language a first grader can understand. As well as how to use it to correct your record that those of you who are stupid and ignorant enough to have created in the first place. You did this 100% voluntarily out of the gargantuan ignorance and sloth you so well display in your response. Your attitude and certainty in your ignorance is why “the jew” rules. You’re a great slavey. You ignore my claim of being 65 and working all my life with 0 income tax liability 100% lawfully. Too much for your, ahem, mind to deal with? Liberty is ours for the living. So is the chattelhood you demand to remain in. May posterity forget the likes of you were our countrymen. Watch the testimonials. Call a few of the posters then get back to me when you have some facts and are willing to abandon your ignorance and unknowing.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  452. @Agnew

    You need to stop lying. You’re dooming your entire tribe and all lackeys as well. The claim of G.H.W.B is your future and you know it too don’t you? The hollow cost is so well debunked anyone pushing it is a capitol criminal and will soon be dealt with as such. You are “the jew”, a liar from the beginning and an enemy of humanity. We are seeing you and building with a resolve you and yours will not survive. Your lies are seen, being digested as we post, and your goal is coming to light too. You know what happens to parasites once seen. You’re being exposed and your continued lies will insure your treatment is deserved. We see you. The claims of your brethren are not hidden and we are soon to deal with the reality you and yours have created.
    “If my son’s did not WANT wars there would be NONE”. Gutle Schnaper Rothschild wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild on her deathbed 1849

    “Wars should be directed so that the nations engaged on both sides should be further in our debt.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    “Remember my children, that all the earth must belong to us Jews, and that the gentiles, being mere excrement’s of animals, must possess nothing.” ~ Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812

    Your time is short.

  453. geokat62 says:
    @flyingputer

    You’re so aware of law that just a perusal of an introduction shows you all contained within?

    No, I’m simply so aware of history that I know that extricating ourselves out of this predicament will take a lot more than finding ways of not paying taxes.

    That’s why I pointed to Gab’s Andrew Torba, as his approach is more holistic and therefore has a greater chance of succeeding.

    • Replies: @flyingputer
  454. @Rich

    but laws that prevent debating the number and method of death of various ethnic Jews in WW2 is forbidden?

    Can you name even one country (besides Ze Zio Entity) which has a law forbidding the debate of the number and method of death of the Jews specifically?

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  455. HdC says:
    @anonymous

    WRONG!!!
    Over a period of 400 years France invaded the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nations 400 times.
    The last two times between 1918 and 1936.

    The country in the world most at war during its existence is, hands down, the USA. Next is Britain, followed by France and Spain.

    Prussia, Germany, and surprisingly Russia, are at the very bottom of that list.

    My assertion is backed by 4 studies, 2 American and 2 British, that were carried out after WWI when Germany was being labelled as a warmonger.

    Some years ago an essay, with references, was published on the webpage of Chronicles, a magazine of American Culture.

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @HdC
  456. whodat says:
    @John Wear

    Why manufacture expensive gas, deliver it … when all you have to do is lock the cell doors for 3 days and the prisoners will die due to lack of water. Please just make your tales more believable if you are going to make me believe them, because this way it makes me look ignorant on top of being humbled.

  457. The problem with revisionism is tied up with the linkage to the idea that if the holocaust story is fake, then the Nazis must conversely have been sand up chaps.
    The Hitler government didn’t play by Marquess of Queensbury rules, it didn’t advocate for such and was happy throughout its tenure to trumpet its own savagery while simultaneously setting this against that of Britain and America (who Hitler not so secretly admired).
    I came to alternative views on this subject through Butz’s “Hoax of the 20th Century” which I picked up at a gunshow around 1980. Butz’s arguments about holocause logical fallacies are on point but he also indulges in wishful thinking about how indulgent the Nazis were to jews. The ‘Special handling’, which was supposedly a mark for death in standard ‘holocaust studies’ pablum becomes ‘the individual so marked were given kid glove treatment’. It probably meant they didn’t have to work in the mines or the Farben plant. Questions are elided about why the massive Farben plant never actually made any synthetic rubber (at least one researcher believes it was a cover for production of enriched uranium) Also why did the Americans never bomb it? Many layers here obscured by the ‘death camp’ legend.

    • Troll: Carolyn Yeager
  458. @turtle

    You ignored my previous reply, so I’ll ask the question again in a different way. You wrote, speaking of Auschwitz-Birkenau:

    The fact that there were no such devices used in the alleged gas chambers suggests that any executions by poison gas in these facilities were of an ad hoc nature. That does not mean that they did not occur, only that the facilities were not designed for that purpose.

    Then you wrote:

    Were people murdered by poison gas at this facility? IMO, that is highly likely, and almost certainly the case.

    What evidence persuades you that “people were murdered by poison gas” in these facilities that were not designed for that purpose? You should know that not a single autopsy of concentration camp dead showed any exposure to poison gas. IOW, gas was not the cause of death.

    I await your reply to this valid question based on your very clear words.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  459. Spiegel, a well known & respectable magazine told us that Germany has paid over EUR63.2 BILLION to alleged Holocaust survivors. Then the Jews demanded more. There’s a surprise. Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,523846,00.html That was back in 2007. They are still trying it on.

    HAARETZ: MERHAV: CLAIMS CONFERENCE HAD TO SUE FILMMAKERS
    Posted on September 25, 2008 in: Together|Comments Off on HAARETZ: MERHAV: CLAIMS CONFERENCE HAD TO SUE FILMMAKERS

    ‘The lie is being perpetuated as the truth’
    By Adi Schwartz
    The executive chairman of the Claims Conference is furious. A documentary film alleges the organization has been denying Holocaust survivors money that is rightfully theirs. In a first interview after the film’s broadcast, Reuven Merhav says he had no choice but to sue for libel

    For weeks, Reuven Merhav slept only fitfully. Distraught by the film made by Orly Vilnai-Federbush and Guy Meroz, “Musar hashilumim” (“The Morals of Restitution: The Struggle Continues”), he woke up at three o’clock every night and wandered about his home in a daze. The well-known words from the verdict in the trial of Rudolf Kastner – who in the 1950s was accused of having collaborated with the Nazis in Hungary – resonated in his mind. Judge Benjamin Halevi had declared that Kastner “sold his soul to the devil.”

    Merhav wondered whether it would not be better to just wait for the storm to pass. In the end, he decided against restraint. As chairman of the executive committee of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany

    Source: https://amgathering.org/date/2008/09/
    The original Haaretz article (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1024460.html ] is long gone, sad to say. It was a splendid document until it got leaned on by Mossad.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  460. Mulegino1 says:
    @anon

    you and unz and wear have got to stop the pilpul.

    the evidence is in the ground at treblinka or it’s not.

    if the amount of ash isn’t nearly enough for 900k, then we’ll know the whole thing is fake.

    go dig!

    They (Caroline Sturdy Colls) already dug up the place and found nothing- no traces of mass excavations, major ground disturbances, massive amounts of human remains, the enormous amounts of wood ash which would have been left from the outdoor cremations, etc. They did find a piece of tile and some animal bones- not to mention some human remains at a nearby Polish Catholic cemetery.

    There is no physical evidence that there was any mass extermination center there.

    My own hunch is that some “eyewitness” saw the sand and gravel quarry at Treblinka I, and thought it was a burial pit, then conflated it with the transit camp at Treblinka II.

    P.S.- compare the surface area of the mass grave at Katyn (4,400 bodies) with the surface area of Treblinka II and the comparison ought to convince anyone with a modicum of objectivity that the story of the 800-900,000 victims there is false.

  461. Addendum:

    Haaretz tells us that:

    Israeli Journalists Apologize to Claims Conference Over Controversial Film

    Orly Vilnai, Guy Meroz and Shamayim Productions Ltd. apologize for the damage caused to the Jewish organization responsible for negotiating with Germany on restitution for Holocaust survivors, by their film, ‘Moral Reparations – The Struggle Continues’.

    It took three years to settle the claim. The losers get to pay the Claims Conference 150,000 shekels. How much did the lawyers come in for? A lot more has to be the answer.

    However Yedioth Ahronoth told us about the Jews running the Claims Conference. They paid themselves very handsomely and hammered the expenses. Flying first class and five star hotels get through money fast.

    Did they cheat their customers, the victims of the Nazis? It seems like it. Source: https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3338282,00.html Did Yedioth Ahronoth get sued for libel? Not for this one.

  462. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Andrew Joyce:

    Whiteness is a term developed by ideological parasites in order to dupe White liberals into believing that they can attack their history/identity/being in the abstract without personal loss. The end goal of “deconstructing Whiteness” is a total dispossession of Whites everywhere.

    https://t.me/andrewjoycearchive/2691

  463. @Carolyn Yeager

    “…You should know that not a single autopsy of concentration camp dead showed any exposure to poison gas. IOW, gas was not the cause of death…”

    When and by whom were those autopsies performed? If by Allied doctors after the liberation of the camps, then we know already what the causes of death were (repeated all the time by the revisionists): undernourishment and diseases because the supply lines to the camps were bombed by the Allies, causing lack of food and medicines.

    Such autopsies would only be of value if they were performed during the time those “gassings” supposedly took place. But did the Nazis allow such autopsies be performed by outsiders?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @Fox
  464. Mojoincc says:

    Mathematically impossible and why bother to transport, house and feed them? Why not just do what the Ashkenazi did to the Russians and shoot them on the spot?

  465. HdC says:
    @HdC

    “invaded the Holy Roman Empire… 400 times”… A slip of my finger. That should read 40 times, ie. France invaded the region that is now the Federal Republic of Germany 40 times over a period of 400 years.
    That’s an average of once every ten years. Hmmm, no wonder the French were so pissed off after blowing the Franco-Prussian war, putting an end to that thievery until the Diktat of Versailles, which was anything BUT a treaty.

  466. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Why don’t you find out for yourself, lazy one, and then you’ll know. You won’t believe anything I say. You don’t find out because you don’t want to know; you just want to keep arguing from false premises.

    I know that there was an autopsy room at Buchenwald, which was later claimed to be a place to torture innocent Communists. By the way, there never was such a group as “Nazis.” That is just a propaganda term used by the Allies and Jewish press. Why don’t you call people by their real name? I’d say it’s because you support the Allies 100% and hate the Axis powers, which aligns you 100% with Jewry.

    Again I bring up the company you keep.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  467. @jasmin

    “Yes, the Holocaust tale that serves a political purpose and is full of lies must be given the same status as that of critical race theory. For the Holocaust to be accepted without question and not subject to revisiting the issue is anti-intellectual and as such just propaganda.”

    Certainly.

    If the “Holocaust” is everything it’s said to be, it should withstand every criticism, every doubt that’s leveled against it. And if it’s not . . . well, it should be relegated to the shithole of history. . . .

    • Agree: HdC
  468. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    from wikipedia on Unforgiven:

    The three most distinct morals on killing are these: (1) it is ok to kill whenever and whoever, (2) it is okay to kill if the person deserves it, and (3) it is never ok to kill unless it is used as a last resort.

    the reigning narrative is that the nazis and bolshies subscribed to 1, because they obviously didn’t subscribe to 2.

    but few consider they may have subscribed to 3.

    an example of 3 is wolf hunting in wisconsin. the wolves don’t deserve it, and their killers don’t enjoy their killing (i hope), but they feel the wolves cause too much trouble.///

    this example is especially apt because the nazis were what today would be called “animal rights extremists”. himmler dressed down his doctor for hunting deer. “it has a right to live!” he said.

    so the nazis regarded the aryan and the jew as wisconsin regards its people and its wolves…as “natural enemies”. if one got what it wanted the other would suffer and vice versa.

    “deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”

    you have the right to kill me. you have the right to do that. but you have no right to judge me. — colonel kurtz

    “deserve” only exists within a (supposedly) non-competitive context.

    so the holocaust was regarded as “self-defense”, but on the level of peoples rather than on the level of individuals.

  469. @Carolyn Yeager

    An autopsy room at Buchenwald used by whom and when? By the Nazis – sorry for the blasphemy: National Socialists – themselves? What proof would that be if they themselves declared no traces of poison gas were found in the dead bodies?

    It would only be a proof if outsiders were allowed to do the autopsies. Since you don’t give any source, I assume we have here to do with one of those revisionist myths of which there are so many.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  470. @Skeptikal

    The imposition of socialism/totalitarianism in America is obvious to me and has been since it really started with “the virus” as a pretext for hostile regime change actions against our President.

    Oh, it’s happening.

  471. geokat62 says:

    Gab comment posted by TruNews:

    Thank you Trump for your so-called Conservative, Christian picks.

    Barrett and Kavanaugh Supply Majority to Deny Religious-Liberty Claim on Vaccine Mandate

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/barrett-and-kavanaugh-supply-majority-to-deny-religious-liberty-claim-on-vaccine-mandate/

    https://gab.com/TRUNEWS/posts/107191548580764019

  472. geokat62 says:

    Must watch video (just click on the link below).

    You know “the goyim know” when a mother starts naming them at a school board meeting…

    Telegram comment posted by The Western Chauvinist:

    Woman at school board meetup calls out Jewish power by name. THAT is a brave woman.

    @TheWesternChauvinist.

    https://t.me/TheWesternChauvinist/13921

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  473. Trinity says:

    All one has to do is observe the behavior of Jews prior to and after WWII. Did the Jew show any gratitude to the Allied nations? Nope. The Jew continued with the same behavior. You can really see that RIGHT AFTER WWII is when all the (((social engineering))) and (((anti-White))) agenda was taken to another level. School integration, followed shortly thereafter by the (((Immigration Reform Act))) and the (((Swindle Whites Movement.))) All sorts of Hymiewood fairy tales like “A Time To Kill”, “To Kill A Mockingbird,” and the comical, “Mississippi Burning.” The real “Mississippi Burning” was the tragic death of Jessica Chambers.

    While MOST here were not even alive back in 1939-1945, everyone here can very well see what is happening today. A leopard doesn’t change its spots and the cat is definitely out of the bag. I hardly think all Germans were angels but then again who is in a time of war. IF you went out there like boy scouts that would be suicide. And of course who are the Allies or Jews to point fingers. The Jews brought the war on themselves IMO, and Germany and Germans like all people on this earth have/had the God given right to defend themselves. Enough with beating down the German people simply for defending themselves . I don’t see any Jews fretting over the treatment of Germans after WWII, or the Holodomor. Matter of fact I see Jews gleefully doing their best to take down White nations. Clearly the problem was with the Jew and not the German.

    • Replies: @Reality Cheque
    , @Mulegino1
  474. Skeptikal says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Re
    “As for this statement of yours:

    Challenging others to “disprove” this and that is a very old trick.

    … the fact is, no one is asking you to disprove anything.”

    Read the thread again. It was John Wear who stated that he had been challenged to prove a negative. My own statement was by inference clearly in support of John, in that I made it clear that I didn’t think it was his responsibility to do another’s research for him. Plus, it it impossible to prove a negative.

    As for the rst of your post, you have no idea what I have and have not read. But I assure that I have speak and read German and I have read a whole lot of sources that are closed to John Wear.

    So don’t get on your high “research” horse with me.

  475. Skeptikal says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Re “The Holohoaxers claim there were 6 million Jews killed and that they met their demise in the gas chambers.

    The onus is on those of you who are peddling these claims to prove them.”

    I did not peddle any claims. Reading comprehension!

    Re
    ” It’s a shame that “Holocaust denial” and “denial of Holocaust denial” has taken over the historical inquiry of this period in history.

    No, this is not what is shameful.”

    There is a difference between “it is a shame” and “it is shameful.” Reading comprehension!

    And, obviously, it is up to me, not you, to decide what I think is “a shame,” and why.

    People like you love to put words into others’ mouths and fasten on some phrase—that you have likely misread—to grind your ax.

    You also apparently don’t get scare quos. Reading comprehension!

  476. @Trinity

    Did the Jew show any gratitude to the Allied nations?

    Gratitude for what exactly? Bombing Muh Precious Supply Lines?

  477. @Matt07924

    Anyone who publicly declares his “chosenness” should be mocked, ostracized and excluded from public discourse until further notice. Extreme times call for extreme measures.

  478. Skeptikal says:
    @Reality Cheque

    Laws that label as “holocaust” denial” any attempt to discuss the details would seem to subsume any and all details that one might wish to discuss. I believe that both France and Germany have specific laws against “holocaust denial.”

    The power of Jews in the US makes it well nigh impossible—like, career suicide—to try to discuss/question/debate any of the details, particularly figures, that are part of the official holocaust narrative.

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC
  479. Fox says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Ryckaert:
    Are you slipping? You are “believing because it is absurd”, as one of the early Church fathers said (Tertullian, I believe). No gassing assertion can be supported with forensic proof of any kind.
    This makes it so much harder to accept such claims.

    “Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proofs”.

    If this is true in other instances of the reality we as humans experience or have to endure, why not in the case of the ‘holocaust”? As it stands, it apparently constitutes the most extraordinary example of a conspiracy of men and Nature to always make all evidence disappear, to suspend logic, experience and even insurance mathematics. (Talking of the mortality tables insurances use to calculate the risk when offering life insurance when set in contrast to the ever-increasing number of ‘survivors’). Another such mathematical anomaly is the extraordinary number of Jews who exist today which implies, taken the claims of the ‘holocaust’ in consideration, producing extraordinary numbers of offspring.

    Then there is the weird conflation of anti-Jewish legislation, deportation, emigration (forced and voluntary), internment, flight, epidemics, anti-Partisan warfare, (and…) with the alleged ‘holocaust’ as mass murder. I think no one who is capable of thinking clearly can tell what the whole thing is actually supposed to mean. How come that there is no clarity? Is this supposed to cause confusion, disorientation, and cause fear about asking questions good sense would pose? And why the zealous, the fanatical legislation to drive that fear home and make entire peoples, millions upon millions of decent people neurotic, fearful, fanatical, brutalize their thinking?

    • Agree: The Old Philosopher
    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
  480. @Franklin Ryckaert

    I just mentioned the autopsy room at Buchenwald because I saw it. It was in the small crematorium, and because it had just a concrete (?) table in it of the type easy to clean off, hose off, it caused the German High School girls who where there at the same time I was, to swoon and weep with horror and shame! God knows what they thought it was.

    Hundreds of autopsies were conducted, during and after the war, and no poison gas deaths were ever reported. That’s just one part of the total picture that undermines your homicidal gassing/gas chamber ASSumption.

    Another supporting “pillar” is that the Jewish/Polish underground at A-B, if they had any brains, would have managed to sneak out OR autopsy “gas chamber” victims if there were any! Nothing of the sort was ever mentioned. They thought their phony reports would be enough (since it was all they had), and their brethren and co-conspirators would take care of making it “News.” Not having a single case of a proven gassing victim is a real indictment of your empty assumptions based on nothing but hearsay reports.

    Yet you expect me to prove what you have not proved didn’t happen! Why no solid evidence when it was supposedly so wide-spread?

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  481. @John Wear

    I just sent you my email address via your website. Send me your email address and I will send you the article.

    What a complicated scheme. There’s nothing from you at my website. My email address is not a secret: carolyn at carolynyeager.net

  482. Dube says:

    The Nobel Prize in Literature 1980
    Czesław Miłosz – from the Nobel Lecture:

    For the poet of the “other Europe” the events embraced by the name of the Holocaust are a reality, so close in time that he cannot hope to liberate himself from their remembrance unless, perhaps, by translating the Psalms of David. He feels anxiety, though, when the meaning of the word Holocaust undergoes gradual modifications, so that the word begins to belong to the history of the Jews exclusively, as if among the victims there were not also millions of Poles, Russians, Ukrainians and prisoners of other nationalities. He feels anxiety, for he senses in this a foreboding of a not distant future when history will be reduced to what appears on television, while the truth, as it is too complicated, will be buried in the archives, if not totally annihilated.

    The speaker is a witness to gradual modifications of the term. There’s a study.

    • Thanks: RobinG
  483. Mulegino1 says:
    @Trinity

    They’re not called “perfidious” for nothing.

    Jewry does not-collectively speaking- have either a sense of gratitude or a sense of obligation to others. Its sentimentality is very shallow, transitory and self serving. Its only motive for practical morality is that “it be good for the Jews.”

    Even arch-Mason Harry Truman, whose leadership played an international role in setting up the settler colony in the Levant, said of the Jews: “The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgement [sic] on world affairs.”

    I presume that by judgement, Truman meant moral judgement.

  484. Trinity says:
    @Mulegino1

    The takers outnumber the givers in any race, but they do seem to come in bunches when it comes to certain tribes of people.

    Truman and the others were either too soft or too crooked. Hard to believe these so-called “educated” men could be so stupid.

  485. @Mulegino1

    “Even arch-Mason Harry Truman, whose leadership played an international role in setting up the settler colony in the Levant, said of the Jews: ‘The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgement (sic) on world affairs.’”

    Truman–that Pendergast machine hack–recognized Israel in 1948 in return for \$2 million in campaign contributions from pro-Zionist sources. Principled fellow, Truman. . . .

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  486. Curle says:
    @Zachary Smith

    “ Perhaps the stories about the Allied fire-bombings were reasonable, but after seeing the titles and ‘teaser text’ of the rest I was in no mood to examine them.”

    Surely you know that several of these titles reflect opinions widely held in the post war period and extensively investigated by reliable actors:

    “Pearl Harbor: No Surprise to America’s Devil-in-Chief.” This position was, effectively, the default consensus among the residents of Honolulu I encountered in the ‘70s if the matter ever came up, even and especially those I knew in the military which included retirees who were at the event. Congressional Republicans tried to study it repeatedly and they were stonewalled the whole way. Military men believed they’d been made scapegoats/patsys.

    “Charles Lindbergh: Wronged American Hero.” Another widely held belief.

    “The Genocide of Captive German Soldiers”. Is this even disputed?

    “Roosevelt Conspired to Start World War II in Europe”. Read Herbert Hoover’s book “Freedom Betrayed.” Read AJP Taylor’s Origins of the Second World War. Taylor was one of the most influential British historians of his day.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  487. MarkinLA says:
    @HdC

    Incendiary bombs were dropped on London Dec 29, 1940. There are videos of the fires.

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/worst-air-raid-on-london

    • Replies: @HdC
  488. @turtle

    2. The heat required to reduce a human corpse to ash is […] not dependent on how many corpses are fed into a crematory muffle.

    Get an enclosed wood stove. Load it with crumpled newsprint, small sticks, and medium-sized sticks of wood. Everything is dry. Light it. Wait 10 minutes and throw a sausage in there. Watch the sausage reduce to ash (it will take some time).
    Next day, repeat the experiment, but this time, instead of one sausage, pack in as many sausages as will fit. Really cram them in there. Watch them not burn.
    Now rewrite your “not dependent” statement.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  489. MarkinLA says:
    @geokat62

    She is stupid enough to think she can kill the whole thing by pealing off the blacks. What she will likely do is get a reparations for blacks and illegal aliens bill that the GOP won’t oppose.

  490. Nancy says:
    @Mevashir

    I feel a tad pilpulled 🙂 (especially after reading the ‘addendum’.) Bookish, I think you got your answer somewhere in this. (BTW, I just started reading K.M.’s ‘Culture of Critique’ and never realized how bitterly and eternally the Jews hated (and hate) the US 1924-1964 immigration restrictions (& they never forget or forgive.) Eastern Europeans freely flooded in prior to that. So, why didn’t the Termites go ‘next year, Jerusalem!!’? Because, of course, here is ‘the land of opportunity’… full of goys! )

  491. @Indignant of Maidstone

    I wonder how much the Germans have paid to survivors from Roma, Sinti, gay, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Soviet, Polish and other families. Does anybody know?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  492. @geokat62

    and he is paying “the jew” and using their currency to run all he does. He is as you are, a voluntary spigot “the jew” sucks from to live and to glean energy to attack us. This without knowing or caring about reality. Since to the child belief or pretending is in truth what is adhered to. He, as you are chooses to believe over knowing. This is our core issue and is childish in the extreme. That you can’t see your own voluntary aiding our enemies is telling. As is the fact that when handed an easily researched tactic to both “enrich” yourself by allowing you to keep at least a third of what you’re “earning” now that you’re paying out because of ignorance of the very rules that govern your life and can only complain and point to others doing “something” says child in capitols. All you have to do is watch, as a child watching cartoons, some of the testimonials and maybe, just maybe do a little clicking online to verify a few of those rules that govern your and Torba’s lives that both of you choose to remain ignorant of out of literal eternal childhood. You need to be parented, so does Torba and you both know it. That’s why you will not even look at the very rules that create the reality you choose to live. You don’t want to grow up.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  493. @JackOH

    It’s really similar to the funny phenomenon of one black person calling another black person a racist. I’ve heard this quite a few times. The political left has so brainwashed this society with the racist, racism, bullshit, and in the larger context of things, that’s what it really is bullshit, that millions of Americans have become so confused that they don’t know their head from their ass. It’s that bad. Someone once asked, why does the left keep up the everyone is a racist theme? Why? Because it WORKS. It’s one of the most valuable tools for winning any issue the left has. It’s a very pragmatic and American way of operating. Do what works!. Politicians on the political right hardly use it. Maybe they should start to. By the way, this same brainwashing using the racist meme, has happened to Europeans too.

  494. JackOH says:

    . . . [W]hat it really is bullshit, that millions of Americans have become so confused that they don’t know their head from their ass. It’s that bad.

    Dr. Charles, true dat.

    This kind of “victimization auto-therapy” might be regarded as empty verbalism, of the same sort as some 19th century robber barons thought of their business acumen and great wealth as being ordained of God. Except, as you said–it bloody well works; it’s endorsed by government and private sector policies; it stifles meaningful debate in numerous ways.

    And, in my opinion, it demonstrably redounds to the benefit of our corporate masters.

    I don’t believe those who play at “victimization auto-therapy” understand they’ve anaesthetized themselves against moral engagement with the world about them. If you’re always the victim, why bother?

  495. @geokat62

    Thanks so much, George, for providing the video which featured the thought of a very brave lady. Is more impressive to me because the woman is a School Board member, and perhaps she’s basic housewife.

    In contrast, and perhaps I am a bit uncertain about where is MarkinLA is coming from, when in comment 499, he branded the lady “stupid.” 🤔🤔

    • Replies: @geokat62
  496. geokat62 says:
    @flyingputer

    … just maybe do a little clicking online to verify a few of those rules that govern your and Torba’s lives…

    I decided to take your advice and do a little clicking. This is what I stumbled upon…

    Introductory and concluding paragraphs to, A review of Peter Eric Hendrickson’s book called Cracking the Code by David R. Myrland of TakeFromCaesar.US/Code Breaker curriculum:

    Because of my exhaustive analysis of the Tax Code and my extensive and intimate knowledge of how America’s courts treat tax cases, I’ve been asked to write a review of a book called Cracking the Code by Peter Eric Hendrickson. While it certainly isn’t worth my own time to conduct such a review, for I can recognize said book on its face to be an utterly incompetent effort to explain the Tax Code, I hope this review will serve to save others who may not be able to do so on their own from being conned out of the price of the book and the costs incurred when the IRS slams them to the ground for doing what the book suggests is how to conduct one’s affairs under the law…

    Sadly, the author is precisely the moron for which the Patriot Movement is famous. Although wholly unsuitable as toilet paper due to chafing such as what I experienced, I still recommend its pages as a fire starter. Reading the book for this review was and remains more painful than the chafing.

    In short, the book, Cracking the Code, is written in the name of Neolithic incompetence and ignorance of legal maxims and standards of interpretation, and is written with a keyhole view of the Code fostered by those to whom the author gives his acknowledgments; buyer beware. Mr. Hendrickson and people who followed him went to prison for believing he knows what he’s doing.

    http://supremelaw.org/authors/myrland/DavidMyrland_REVIEW_CrackingTheCode.by.Petehendrickson.pdf

    • Replies: @flyingputer
  497. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Thanks, Chuck. That lady is indeed very brave.

    Re MarkinLA comment 499, I think he was referring to congresswoman MTG’s proposed Repub response to Democrat gibs to illegal aliens by offering more gibs to blacks.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  498. Trinity says:

    Obviously MUCH of the holocaust has been exaggerated. People have been caught telling tall tales and profiting off their outrageous and ridiculous LIES. You wonder how people could have even taken these stories seriously. One Misha Defonseca supposedly escaped the “Notsee” death camps and was raised by wolves. ROTFLMMFWAO.

    Then you had the “schmuck” who appeared on Orca Winfrey promoting his book, “Angel At The Fence.” The author one, (((Herman Rosenblat))) told the tale of how a little Jewess would pass him food through the fence where he was imprisoned. teehee. Orca Winfrey called it “the single greatest love story” she had heard during her entire time on the show. LMAO. Not sure about this one, will have to search but I think this is the “schmuck” who after being caught lying would go on to say, “but it was real in my mind.” LMAO. You cannot make this shit up.

    Teaching LIES to children is in fact a form of child abuse and generations of school children have been lied to about WWII. It is not a black and white story. It isn’t Germans = bad and Jews = angels who were victimized by Satanic Germans dressed in black. That is the narrative that generations of children growing up in America have been fed for over 75 years. Not only should the Holocaust be questioned but the whole WWII narrative should be questioned. The German side of the story NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

    Lie after lie, bars of soap, shrunken heads, defecating diamonds, raised by wolves, enuff already.

    • Agree: John Wear, anarchyst
    • Replies: @Bookish1
  499. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by The Western Chauvinist:

    Philadelphia to become first major US city to ban police from stopping drivers for low-level traffic violations

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/philadelphia-to-become-first-major-us-city-to-ban-police-from-stopping-drivers-for-low-level-traffic-violations/ar-AAQ8nZ8?ocid=uxbndlbing

    They would rather risk car accidents due to blinkers and lights being broken on Black’s cars, than pull over angry implusive black people.

    P*gs already pull over whites more in traffic stops because they know there is little to no chance of an altercation.

    In Philly they’re making it a documented standard and practice.

    Equality is a lie. Loxists are preying on you White man.

    @TheWesternChauvinist

    https://t.me/TheWesternChauvinist/13927

  500. HdC says:
    @MarkinLA

    I read your referenced text down to “Hitler’s plan for world domination”, and stopped.

    The legal admonition of “falsehood in one, falsehood in all” applies here.

    Did fires break out in London due to the bombing? This would not surprise me.

    I’d want to see German records of what type of bombs were dispatched to London before I would believe anything of that sort.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @MarkinLA
  501. @geokat62

    Given such is the case, my apology to MarkinLA. Thanks.

  502. @Orville H. Larson

    And Truman even admitted this. He said he did it in the interests of his upcoming election. He felt he had no choice!

    This is what’s wrong with so-called democracy in the USA — it comes down to money. And we know who has the money. Jews also vote in a block in the biggest states like New York, California and Florida. Jews corrupt.

  503. @Anonymous

    Then in 1989, they quietly took down the official plaque at Auschwitz that said ‘4 million’ killed there and replaced it with a plaque that said ‘1 million’.

    The original plaque said nothing about Jews specifically, just “people”; so why should the generic 3 million be subtracted from the Jewish 6 million?

    Subsequent documentation (especially from the Red Cross and German documents now archived in Russia) has brought that 3 million number down significantly–into the thousands.

    Russians are the ones who cooked up the “4 million people” clam originally, so why would their anchovies contradict it?

    • Replies: @Curle
  504. Bookish1 says:
    @Trinity

    Also I might add that in all of my 12 years of schooling not one teacher mentioned Jews once. One cannot understand the world without understanding Jewish control.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Trinity
  505. @littlewing

    Jews were in the triangular economy in the very same way they were and still are in war : as takers at each point huge and safe profits were to be derived, not at all or quite little as direct actors whenever the action was to dangerous or dirty, or the investment too risky. In the American South they were present of course as exporters of colonial-produced commodities as it involved comparatively little risk (the Northern Atlantic sea route was comparatively well guarded), but when it came to slave trading proper it was, like war in unstable countries such as Germany, way too risky for life and also property. The Guinea coast was so dangerous, because of tropical diseases Whites then knw no cure nor prevention from, because the African kingdoms were totalitarian and terroristic criminal entities (many ones like Benin were secret service ridden states as well organized and policed as a communist state could be later on) that knew of no loyalty whenever they smelt off that your commercial enterprise was not backed by a more dangerous political power than theirs, that the mortality rate among even captains was as high as among slaves. Once yoou had your slave cargo you had to go through the most unpoliced waters of the Atlantic. The only exception was the route from Angola to Brazil which was a Portuguese monopoly operated by many Jews intervening much more directly than elsewhere, and which dealt with very small and underdeveloped African slave-captor states : but anybody in the Portuguese speaking culture that was neither a Catholic nobleman neither a Catholic peasant, anybody who derived his living from city or harbour professions, was a Jew or was bound to rapidly identify with Judaism in the same way the same kind of people identified with Protestantism in France or other more Northern countries, because Portuguese Catholicism allowed for no education beyond your rank of birth nor any chance of social mobility lest you lose all honour : Jewish morality in that domain was much more open (more open to conversions too), contrary to so many other countries. In other cultures than the Portuguese and to a much lesser extent than the Dutch (where the Jewry was Sephardic and most often through Portuguese origin as Portugal was most tolerant to their Jews abroad but not so much in Portugal proper) there were very few Jewish hands intervening directly in the slave trade proper : too risky. For the same reasons few Jews were condottieri during the Thirty Years war. The Jewish business in that domain was to make profits from military supplies and equipment to be provided to slaving expeditions, that was an economic niche with much profits and practically no risk of losing it all as happened when you placed your money on a particular ship. There were of Jews more adventurous than others that also wanted the hell of it and not only the profit but they were not typical : twenty-four ships making the triangular route through Newport were Jewish-owned and Jewish-steered during the whole period of glory of that commerce, which 24 ships have their names copied from antisemitic website to antisemitic website (generally Black resetment oriented), but in cities such as Bordeaux or Bristol such ships could easily number thousands and the Jews were only the fourth religious community in percentage number (after Protestants, Catholics, Calvinists…) to own them in each, though they were definitely present : the risk was too big unless you had really huge capital to compensate the loss of so many with the profits made on others. And it was a very bad idea for a Jew of Bordeaux, Bristol or Newport to steer in person to Benin city : you chances of getting tse tse fly borne disease was 10% being optimistic and if you could make it very fast.

  506. @Carolyn Yeager

    “…Another supporting “pillar” is that the Jewish/Polish underground at A-B, if they had any brains, would have managed to sneak out OR autopsy “gas chamber” victims if there were any! Nothing of the sort was ever mentioned…”

    An extreme form of an argumentum e silentio. You are aware of the difficulty of smuggling corpses from a well guarded concentration camp, do you?

    For the rest, my argument still stands. If “hundreds” of autopsies were conducted, the question is by whom and when? If by the Germans themselves, they would not compromise themselves if they really gassed people. If they didn’t gass people, why did they need to find something which they already knew was not there?

    If autopsies were conducted by outsiders (Allies or Red Cross), right after liberation, then they could only find bodies of persons who had died of hunger or disease, not of gassing. Thus small wonder they could not find traces of ZyklonB. If they were allowed to conduct autopsies during the time the gassings could have taken place, they should have come right after the gassing, because the bodies were immediately cremated. But the Germans would not have allowed that to happen.

    So the whole argument “autopsies have not demonstrated the presence of Zyklon B” is useless.

    • Thanks: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  507. @HdC

    MarkinLA’s linked article was at History.com, a fake news, fake history site. It’s like the History Channel, or like cartoon-history. No serious historian would ever frequent or cite this site. Unless MarkinLA can come up with better “proof” for what he wants to convey, he should not be given any attention.
    I appreciate your reply, however. Thanks!

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  508. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Warren Balogh:

    Lol. Biden is a shitty president, what a shock!

    Actually, the problem isn’t even Biden. You could exchange him for any of a hundred other empty figureheads from either the Democrat or Republican parties, and things would still suck.

    The problem is this totally dysfunctional, corrupt, incompetent, illegitimate anti-White two-party liberal democratic capitalist Zionist-occupied system. An evil tree brings forth evil fruit.

    They can spend tens of millions on lawsuits to discourage the people from protesting, they can treat patriots and veterans like terrorists and shut down free speech, they can flood elections with corporate cash and buy off politicians—-but one thing they can’t do is build a strong, stable, ordered, happy, healthy society.

    And that will be their undoing, sooner than a lot of people imagine!

    https://t.me/ahab88/6099

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  509. Trinity says:
    @Bookish1

    Can’t remember how many times the J word might have been uttered by my teachers but IF it was I am sure it was only to tell us how great and angelic the Jews are and how they have blessed the world with their presence. lololol.

  510. Trinity says:

    IMAGINE someone pushing movies, books, and documentaries showing Israelis brutalizing Palestinians over and over and over? IMAGINE someone pushing movies, books, and documentaries that depicted real life mass murderers like Genrikh Yagoda and Lazar Kaganovich and correctly identified them as Jewish Supremacists? IMAGINE someone pushing movies, books and documentaries showing Allies raping German women, torching cities full of civilians, etc.

    It becomes pretty ridiculous when those claiming to be on the right side of history are guilty of more evil than those who they condemn. And we can CLEARLY see (((the same people))) and the same horseshit brainwashing being done in 2021. (((BLM & Antifa))) are ideologies, and not domestic terrorists. Granny with the MAGA hat is a “racist” and a “domestic terrorists.” Kind of like Scott Peterson lecturing a group of abusive husbands on domestic violence.

    • Agree: mark green
  511. Curle says:
    @Reality Cheque

    “ Russians are the ones who cooked up the “4 million people” clam originally, so why would their anchovies contradict it?”

    Pre-Doctor’s Plot Soviets or post Dr’s Plot Soviets?

  512. Fox says:
    @flyingputer

    Thank you and sorry for only replying now, as it is sometimes difficult not to miss an interesting comment.
    My comment just aimed at saying that ‘divine’ could have meanings beyond the commonly-agreed upon context.
    Your term Common Law is very interesting, I think the same as Natural Law in my thinking, although you gave it much more thought than I ever did. In my view, living beings are a manifestation of Nature’s spirit or soul and therefore are possessed by an absolute right to be what they are and of an absolute independence of being. Real life in the multitude requires cooperation and interaction, but always projecting from the absolute independence or uniqueness of being. The less such interaction leads to a loss of independence and to autonomy, the more freedom there is in life and the more satisfactory it is. I like the idea of autarchy for nations and as much as possible for individuals. You seem to have a life that is quite independent of all the strings and shackles modern life puts on most of and are accepted by its members.

    • Replies: @flyingputer
    , @flyingputer
  513. @Curle

    ” . . . Read Herbert Hoover’s book “Freedom Betrayed.” Read AJP Taylor’s “Origins of the Second World War.” Taylor was one of the most influential British historians of his day.”

    Also, check out “President Roosevelt and the Coming of the War, 1941” by the eminent historian Charles A. Beard.

    Speaking in Boston in October 1940, Roosevelt said, “I’ll say it again and again and again. Your boys will not be sent into any foreign wars.”

    Bullshit. Saint Franklin’s diplomacy toward Germany and Japan had been unrelentingly hostile.

    • Replies: @turtle
  514. HdC says:
    @MarkinLA

    I said nothing of that sort.
    I said I want to see German documentation listing the types of bombs loaded onto their airplanes and sent to Britain, or any other country.
    As an addendum I’d want to see orders in German ordering the pilots to bomb civilian centres.
    And then I’d want to see proof that these document are authentic German documents.
    You may consider my request as unreasonable… So be it.
    Extraordinary allegations require extraordinary proof.

    • Replies: @Fox
  515. anarchyst says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    There were no “gas chambers”. In fact, it is very difficult to execute ONE person utilizing poisonous gases, let alone “6 million”. Observe the extreme precautions necessary to inflict capital punishment by gas for one person.
    Zyklon B is a very inefficient execution agent and would have been impossible to use to perform executions. The claims that thousands of jews were executed daily is impossible on its face. It would have taken into the 1950s to kill “6 million” jews.
    The whole “gas chamber” story has to be relegated to the “ash heap of history” not unlike the “soap”, “masturbation machines” and “shrunken heads”, oh my…
    On another note, if “death to jews” by “naziswhowanttokillsixmilionjews” was the desired result, why transport them considerable distances, identify them and provide living , recreational and sanitary facilities if the motive was to merely exterminate ((them))?

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • LOL: Skeptikal
  516. RobinG says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Since you’re generally very talkative, should I assume you don’t want to answer this?

    But where do you sit on the Covid-lie spectrum? Is it a flu hoax, or is it real and the vaccine is a hoax, or a killer? (Etc.)

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  517. Angharad says:
    @mcohen

    The real tragedy of the HolyHoax is that is DIDN’T happen.

  518. Fox says:
    @HdC

    Agreed.
    Indeed, everyone is entitled to see the actual, physical, forensically acceptable proofs, since the whole world is aching under the burden of these allegations but never treated to the actual physical sight of these “documentations” and “files” and “proofs”.
    We’re waiting.

  519. anarchyst says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Yes, the so-called “American History Channel” depicts Adolf Hitler as a “superman” with advanced technology and a superior mind while denigrating him, claiming that he was a mentally ill “drug addict” with STDs and other negative traits. Hitler is never portrayed in his normal soft-spoken voice, always being portrayed as a bombastic, harsh speaker spouting propaganda.
    We both know that the propaganda IS the “American History Channel” and is not worth watching. So many times, upon coasting through the channels for something interesting to watch, it’s always “Hitler this” and “Hitler that” on the “American History Channel” with no substance at all.
    For most people who are unaware, even today, the “American History Channel” is an effective anti-German, pro-jewish propaganda tool that, in every WW2 program shows emaciated typhus-ridden bodies while at the same time overvoicing about “death camps” and “naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews”.
    I have attempted to “deprogram” family members and others with some success. Getting them to THINK logically and for themselves is the first step.

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  520. Skeptikal says:
    @Mulegino1

    I thought it was “perfidious Albion.”

    Not that no one else could be perfidious.

    But I think the adjective is most often combined with “Albion,” i.e., England.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  521. Skeptikal says:
    @Badger Down

    “Get an enclosed wood stove. Load it with crumpled newsprint, small sticks, and medium-sized sticks of wood. Everything is dry. Light it. Wait 10 minutes and throw a sausage in there. W”

    It is truly absurd to compare your living room wood stove fueled with some paper, with a multiple=muffel industrial Verbrennungsofen—not a standard civilian crematorium—fueled with coke and specially engineered for burning hundreds of corpses. The ignorance and sheer silliness are remarkable.

    Once the Verbrennungsofen reaches a high temperature, in which multiple bodies are stuffed (in violation of standard rules of cremating, which required (1) only one body at a time and (2) no direct application of fire/flames to the corpse), the fat in the bodies becomes itself a fuel booster, both boosting the heat, reducing the amount of koks needed, and more completely burning the bodies and reducing flesh to ash. The bones were then sifted out and ground in a machine. All of the resultant stuff was disposed of in the nearby river.

    BTW, those whom the selection on or near the arrival platform destined for the gas chambers never “officially” entered the camp but were sent directly to a gas chamber immediately after the selection. Therefore any autopsies that were performed were done on actual camp members/prisoners. Those who were not selected for labor but were selected to be gassed were not given a number nor were their names entered on any registers. The gas chambers were underground. The crematoria were built on top. However, the configurations changed quickly. There was only a fairly short period, from 1943 to 1944, when the most efficient use could be made of both gas chambers and crematoria and different areas of the whole camp had different faciilties. You can read about the capacity of the gas chambers and the crematoria in detail here, including an exact description of the improvements that were introduced in the process to increase through-put:

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaskammern_und_Krematorien_der_Konzentrationslager_Auschwitz

    In particular, the capacity of the gas chambers and the crematoria is discussed and explained under the section “Leistungsfaehigkeit,” including some handy graphs (under “Tabellen”). You can also see there patent applications of the Topf firm, which designed and produced the crematoria, and photos of the excavated gas chambers. The crematoria were destroyed, but are visible in a number of photos of Auschwitz. It is estimated that ca. 900,000 were eliminated at Auschwitz. The technical specs of the equipment used support the estimates provided by other sources.

  522. Mulegino1 says:
    @Skeptikal

    Since the definition of perfidious is “deceitful” and “untrustworthy”, it applies to both, as it would to the master and his dutiful apprentice.

  523. Skeptikal says:
    @anarchyst

    In a word:
    Bullshit.

    “Zyklon B is a very inefficient execution agent and would have been impossible to use to perform executions. ”

    Actually, Zyklon B (hydrogen cyanide) was very efficient. It produced “internal suffocation” and death within 20 minutes. Heat from the crematoria above speeded up the gasification of the hydrogen cyanide in the pellets that were introduced into the gas chamber. Precise calculations were done to determine the amount of pellets needed for different chamber sizes and numbers of persons.

    The “B” indicates the form of the poison that was used for this purpose. The Germans were smart enough to figure out exactly how to design a process and buildings to get the results they wanted while not endangering those who were responsible for handling the gas and then removing the corpses. The techniques needed to use Zyklon B safely for the killers (SS-men) who were responsible for the actual killings are described in detail here:

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaskammern_und_Krematorien_der_Konzentrationslager_Auschwitz#Leistungsf%C3%A4higkeit

    See “Beginn der Vergasungen” and “Einwurf des Zyklon B”

  524. turtle says:
    @Orville H. Larson

    Woodrow Wilson campaign slogan:
    “He kept us out of war.”

    Franklin Roosevelt said:
    “I’ll say it again and again and again. Your boys will not be sent into any foreign wars.”

    Lyndon Johnson said:
    “I am not going to send American boys to do what Vietnamese boys should be doing for themselves.”
    (words to that effect)

    (EQUAL POLITICIANS LIARS) T

    • Thanks: Trinity, Orville H. Larson
    • Replies: @Trinity
  525. Trinity says:
    @anarchyst

    The Germans were such an efficient killing machine and yet they left 6 BILLION \$urvivors. lololol.