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I am often asked why I have this “thing” about Israel, with friends suggesting that I would be much more respected as a pundit if I were to instead concentrate on national security and political corruption. The problem with that formulation is that the so-called “special relationship” with Israel is itself the result of terrible national security and foreign policy choices that is sustained by pervasive political and media corruption, so any honest attempt to examine the one inevitably leads to the other. Most talking heads in the media avoid that dilemma by choosing to completely ignore the dark side of Israel.

Israel – not Russia – is the one foreign country that can interfere with impunity with the political processes in the United States yet it is immune from criticism. It is also the single most significant threat to genuine national security as it and its powerful domestic lobby have been major advocates for the continuation of America’s interventionist warfare state. The decision to go to war on false pretenses against Iraq, largely promoted by a cabal of prominent American Jews in the Pentagon and in the media, killed 4,424 Americans as well as hundreds of thousands Iraqis and will wind up costing the American taxpayer $7 trillion dollars when all the bills are paid. That same group of mostly Jewish neocons more-or-less is now agitating to go to war with Iran using a game plan for escalation prepared by Israel which will, if anything, prove even more catastrophic.

And I can go on from there. According to the FBI, Israel runs the most aggressive spying operations against the U.S. among ostensibly “friendly” nations, frequently stealing our military technology for resale by its own arms merchants. Its notable successes in espionage have included the most devastating spy in U.S. history Jonathan Pollard, while it has also penetrated American communications systems and illegally obtained both the fuel and the triggers for its own secret nuclear weapons arsenal.

Israel cares little for American sovereignty. It’s prime ministers Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu have both boasted how they control the United States. In 2001, Israel was running a massive secret spying operation directed against Arabs in the U.S. Many in the intelligence and law enforcement communities suspect that it had considerable prior intelligence regarding the 9/11 plot but did not share it with Washington. There was the spectacle of the “dancing Shlomos,” Israeli “movers” from a company in New Jersey who apparently had advanced knowledge of the terrorist attack and danced and celebrated as they watched the Twin Towers go down.

Jewish power, both in terms of money and of access to people and mechanisms that really matter, is what allows Israel to act with impunity, making the United States both poorer and more insecure. A well-funded massive lobbying effort involving hundreds of groups and thousands of individuals in the U.S. has worked to the detriment of actual American interests, in part by creating a permanent annual gift of billions of dollars to Israel for no other reason but that it is Israel and can get anything it wants from a servile Congress and White House without any objection from a controlled media.

Israel has also obtained carte blanche political protection from the U.S. in fora like the United Nations, which is damaging to America’s reputation and its actual interests. This protection now extends to the basing of U.S. troops in Israel to serve as a tripwire, guaranteeing that Washington will become involved if Israel is ever attacked or even if Israel itself starts a war. The current U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley is little more than a shill for Israel while America’s Ambassador in Israel David Friedman is an open supporter of Israel’s illegal settlements, which the U.S. opposes, who spends much of his time defending Israeli war crimes.

And here on the home front Israel is doing damage that might be viewed as even more grave in Senator Ben Cardin’s attempt to destroy First Amendment rights by making any criticism of Israel illegal. The non-violent Israel Boycott movement (BDS) has already been sanctioned in many states, the result of intensive and successful lobbying by the Israeli government and its powerful friends.

So if there is a real enemy of the United States in terms of the actual damage being inflicted by a foreign power, it is Israel. In the recent Russiagate investigations it was revealed that it was Israel, not Russia, that sought favors from Michael Flynn and the incoming Trump Administration yet Special Counsel Robert Mueller has evidently not chosen to go down that road with his investigations, which should surprise no one.

Noam Chomsky, iconic progressive intellectual, has finally come around on the issue of Israel and what it means. He has always argued somewhat incoherently that Israeli misbehavior has been due to its role as a tool of American imperialism and capitalism. At age 89, he has finally figured out that it is actually all about what a parasitic Israel wants without any regard for its American host, observing on “Democracy Now” that

..take, say, the huge issue of interference in our pristine elections. Did the Russians interfere in our elections? An issue of overwhelming concern in the media. I mean, in most of the world, that’s almost a joke. First of all, if you’re interested in foreign interference in our elections, whatever the Russians may have done barely counts or weighs in the balance as compared with what another state does, openly, brazenly and with enormous support. Israeli intervention in U.S. elections vastly overwhelms anything the Russians may have done… I mean, even to the point where the prime minister of Israel, Netanyahu, goes directly to Congress, without even informing the president, and speaks to Congress, with overwhelming applause, to try to undermine the president’s policies – what happened with Obama and Netanyahu in 2015….

Politicians are terrified of crossing the Jewish lobby by saying anything negative about Israel, which means that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu always gets a pass from the American government, even when he starves civilians and bombs hospitals and schools. Netanyahu uses snipers to shoot dead scores of unarmed demonstrators and the snipers themselves joke about their kills without a peep from Washington, which styles itself the “leader of the free world.”

Just recently, Israel has declared itself a Jewish State with all that implies. To be sure, Israeli Christians and Muslims were already subject to a battery of laws and regulations that empowered Jews at their expense but now it is the guiding principle that Israel will be run for the benefit of Jews and Jews alone. And it still likes to call itself a “democracy.”

A recent television program illustrates just how far the subjugation of America’s elected leaders by Israel has gone. British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen is featured on a new show called “Who is America?” in which he uses disguises and aliases to engage politicians and other luminaries in unscripted interviews that reveal just how ignorant or mendacious they actually are. Several recent episodes remind one of a February 2013 Saturday Night Live skit on the impending confirmation of Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense. A Senator asks Hagel. “It is vital to Israel’s security for you to go on national television and perform oral sex on a donkey… Would you do THAT for Israel?” A “yes” answer was, of course, expected from Hagel. The skit was never aired after objections from the usual suspects.

Baron Cohen, who confronted several GOP notables in the guise of Colonel Erran Morad, an Israeli security specialist, provided a number of clues that his interview was a sham but none of the victims were smart enough to pick up on them. Cohen, wearing an Israeli military uniform and calling himself a colonel, clearly displayed sergeant’s stripes. Hinting that he might actually be a Mossad agent, Cohen also sported a T-shirt on which the Hebrew text was printed backwards and he claimed that the Israeli spy agency’s motto was “if you want to win, show some skin.”

Cohen set up Dick Cheney by complimenting him on being the “the king of terrorist killers” before commenting that “my neighbor in Tel Aviv is in jail for murder, or, as we call it, enhanced tickling.” Morad went on to tell Cheney that he once waterboarded his wife to check for infidelity and then convinced the former Vice President to sign a “waterboarding kit” that “already had” the signatures of Benjamin Netanyahu, Ariel Sharon and Demi Lovato.

Another more spectacular sketch included a Georgia state senator Jason Spencer who was convinced to shout out the n-word as part of an alleged video being made to fight terrorism. After Cohen told Spencer that it was necessary to incite fear in homophobic jihadists, Spencer dropped his pants and underwear, before backing up with his exposed rear end while shouting “USA!” and “America!” Spencer also spoke with a phony Asian accent while simulating using a selfie-stick to secretly insert a camera phone inside a Muslim woman’s burqa.

In another series of encounters, Cohen as Morad managed to convince current and ex-Republican members of Congress — to include former Senate majority leader Trent Lott — to endorse a fictional Israeli program to arm grade school children for self-defense.

Cohen’s footage included a former Illinois congressman and talk radio host named Joe Walsh saying: “The intensive three-week ‘Kinderguardian’ course introduces specially selected children from 12 to 4 years old to pistols, rifles, semiautomatics and a rudimentary knowledge of mortars. In less than a month — less than a month — a first-grader can become a first grenade-er.”

Both controversial Alabama judge Roy Moore and Walsh were fooled into meeting Cohen to attend a non-existent pro-Israel conference to accept an award for “significant contributions to the state of Israel.” Representative Dana Rohrabacher, meanwhile, also was interviewed and he commented that, “Maybe having young people trained and understand how to defend themselves and their school might actually make us safer here.” And Congressman Joe Wilson observed that “A 3-year-old cannot defend itself from an assault rifle by throwing a ‘Hello Kitty’ pencil case at it.”

Cohen’s performance is instructive. A man shows up in Israeli uniform, claims to be a terrorism expert or even a Mossad agent, and he gains access to powerful Americans who are willing to do anything he says. How Cohen did it says a lot about the reflexive and completely uncritical support for Israel that many American politicians — particularly Republicans — now embrace. This, in a nutshell, is the damage that Israel and its Lobby have done to the United States. Israel is always right for many policymakers and even palpably phony Jews like Colonel Morad are instantly perceived as smarter than the rest of us so we’d better do what they say. That kind of thinking has brought us Iraq, Libya, Syria and the possibility of something far worse with Iran.

Israel routinely interferes in American politics and corrupts our institutions without any cost to itself and that is why I write and speak frequently regarding the danger to our Republic that it poses. It is past time to change the essentially phony narrative. Israel is nothing but trouble. It has the right to defend itself and protect its interests but that should not involve the United States. One can only hope that eventually a majority of my fellow American citizens will also figure things out. It might take a while, but the ruthless way Israel openly operates with no concern for anyone but itself provides a measure of optimism that that day is surely coming.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected].

 
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  1. RobinG says:

    Re. RUSSIAGATE: the 2nd edition of Alex Krainer’s book is now available, with new title.

    GRAND DECEPTION: The TRUTH ABOUT BILL BROWDER, the MAGNITSKY ACT, and ANTI-RUSSIAN SANCTIONS https://www.redpillpress.com/shop/grand-deception-bill-browder-magnitsky-act-russian-sanctions/

    In 2015, Bill Browder published Red Notice – purportedly a true story about his experience in Russia between 1996 and 2005. Upon closer scrutiny however, his story doesn’t add up and demonstrably fails to stand up in a court of law. Nonetheless, on the dubious strength of that story, Browder has been able to lobby the U.S. Congress to pass the Magnitsky Act in 2012 which needlessly damaged the relations between the U.S. and Russia. Where he failed in courts of law, however, his campaign of relentless demonization of Russia and of Vladimir Putin has been successful in the court of public opinion in the West. As humanity finds itself on the precipice of yet another great war, what we need are bridges of mutual understanding and constructive engagement, not demonization.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Jett Rucker
  2. Ben_C says:

    Phil,

    All I know is that Jerusalem is now “officially” the capital of Israel thanks to Donald Trump, and that Randy Paul keeps stressing Israel’s “remarkable restraint” over and over:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/07/tragedy-israel-rand-paul/

    I’m not entirely sure why you keep hanging on to this tired and false narrative that US politicians are some sort of stooges and puppets of Israel…

  3. geokat62 says:

    Do you hear that, power? Phil is speaking to you… loud and clear.

    • Replies: @Old Jew
  4. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:

    . The decision to go to war on false pretenses against Iraq, largely promoted by a cabal of prominent American Jews in the Pentagon and in the media, killed 4,424 Americans as well as hundreds of thousands Iraqis and will wind up costing the American taxpayer $7 trillion dollars when all the bills are paid. That same group of mostly Jewish neocons more-or-less is now agitating to go to war with Iran using a game plan for escalation prepared by Israel which will, if anything, prove even more catastrophic.

    Oh right, who can forget the cabal of Jews controlling the US government and military at the time of the Iraq invasion, such as President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers, CIA director George Tenet, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice…Every.Single.Time, am I right, folks?

    Oh wait, they aren’t Jewish? Well, I blame the Jews away. Just look at…uh… Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Doug Feith, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Woflowitz and journalist Bill Kristol. That sounds like an extremely powerful cabal easily capable of commanding such trivial figures as the President, CIA director, Secretary of State, et cetera, to do their bidding.

    Besides, just look at how much the Iraq War benefited Israel. You see, Israel wants to pursue a strategy of destabilizing the region, so it cleverly pulled off a false flag attack on 9/11; I’m not quite sure why Mossad didn’t frame one of Israel’s actual enemies, like the Palestinians or Iranians, or even Saddam for that matter, as the perpetrators of the attacks, but I’m sure it’s all part of the plan.

    Anyway, Israel got the United States to invade Iraq, which destabilized the region and created chaos, predictably leading to a massive increase in Iranian influence in Iraq and likely enabling more Iranian intervention in the Syrian Civil War, which benefited Israel because…uh…chaos and destabilization.

    And if you doubt that neocons totally control the US government, just look at how we’re at war with Iran! Well…we’re not technically at war yet, a decade after neoconservatives began promoting the war….and President Obama did somehow manage to sign a nuclear deal with Iran that infuriated his neocon and Israeli puppetmasters…but I’m sure that President Trump, famously beloved by Jews and neocons everywhere, will soon go to war with Iran.

  5. “Many in the intelligence and law enforcement communities suspect that it (Israel) had considerable prior intelligence regarding the 9/11 plot but did not share it with Washington.”

    That is understatement worthy of a Briton!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Felicity
    , @Moi
  6. mcohen says:

    Tiresome stuff.usual suspects.

  7. @Ben_C

    ‘…I’m not entirely sure why you keep hanging on to this tired and false narrative that US politicians are some sort of stooges and puppets of Israel…’

    Maybe because they are stooges and puppets? In extreme cases, they even boast of it. When Romney was running for president, he promised he would check with Israel on any action we took in the Middle East. When Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State was promoting civil war in Syria, she explained that this was necessary because Israel wished it.

    It goes on, and on. If someone is considering a run for Congress, he gets a nice little packet from AIPAC. Among other things, he’s asked to write an essay expressing his feelings about Israel.

    If the essay isn’t satisfactory, AIPAC backs his opponent.

    Not surprisingly, when Netanyahu — the premier of a tiny state on the other side of the planet — spoke to Congress he was interrupted with standing ovations seventeen times. The display put me in mind of the sort of frenzied adulation Communist delegates used to display towards Stalin.

    …and the motives, of course, would be similar, even if actual death isn’t in prospect. For most in Congress, displease Israel, and your political career just ended.

    • Replies: @Miggle
    , @Fidelios Automata
  8. @NoseytheDuke

    “Many in the intelligence and law enforcement communities suspect that it (Israel) had considerable prior intelligence regarding the 9/11 plot but did not share it with Washington.”

    It’s certainly difficult to explain how else Mossad came to be filming the attack.

  9. @Anonymous

    ‘…I’m sure that President Trump, famously beloved by Jews and neocons everywhere, will soon go to war with Iran.

    It was supposed to be Hillary, so there’ve been some hiccups, but things are moving forward.

    No fear.

    • Replies: @renfro
  10. I think it needs to be emphasized that it’s not merely a matter of practical politics.

    Israel is evil — she brings misery to millions, actual happiness to almost no one, and engages in behavior with no defensible moral foundation at all. She has attacked every single one of her neighbors, compulsively seeks out further conflict to paper over the shortcomings in her own national identity, and treats her Palestinian subjects with a morality about like that of a nasty little boy pulling the wings off a fly.

    Arguably, others are as bad. However, unlike the others, Israel could not have come into being without our support, and could not continue to exist today without our continued moral, economic, diplomatic, and military support. If we pulled the plug, Israel would cease to exist as a Jewish supremacist state within — at most — a decade.

    We are, in fact, responsible for Israel, and hence responsible for Israel’s crimes. Other people’s teenaged sons may well be out there stealing cars and raping girls. This happens to be our son doing it. We’re responsible.

    We pursue many policies I regard as futile, short-sighted, deluded, or self-destructive. My personal list would include ‘come one come all’ immigration, global warming denial, maintaining a massive military establishment, condoning ‘Black Lives Matter,’ and probably some other things.

    No doubt the reader has his own list. However, that’s not the point. The point is that essentially, these policies are merely stupid rather than actually evil. It’s not evil to think we should just let whoever wants come into the US. It’s dumb — but it isn’t evil. In fact, I’ll willingly credit people who vote for ‘sanctuary cities’ et al with the most laudable sentiments. I merely question their intelligence.

    Israel is different. Israel is evil, and hence our support for it is as well. It is the most fundamentally wrong act we are engaged in.

    There is a moral dimension to life. There is a distinction between striving to do good — however unsuccessfully — and willingly participating in evil.

    We need to stop supporting Israel.

  11. @Ben_C

    ‘…I’m not entirely sure why you keep hanging on to this tired and false narrative that US politicians are some sort of stooges and puppets of Israel…’

    Whoops. Your sarcasm escaped me. I become horribly earnest when it comes to Israel.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  12. Realist says:

    Why Confronting Israel Is Important
    The Jewish state is no friend

    This is true, but then this statement is written:

    One can only hope that eventually a majority of my fellow American citizens will also figure things out.

    With that milquetoast solution everything should be just fine.

    Western civilization is on a shit slide to hell and only resistance will have a chance to save it.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @nietzsche1510
  13. “A well-funded massive lobbying effort involving hundreds of groups and thousands of individuals in the U.S. has worked to the detriment of actual American interests, in part by creating a permanent annual gift of billions of dollars to Israel for no other reason but that it is Israel and can get anything it wants from a servile Congress and White House without any objection from a controlled media.”

    Kind of begs the question, why are we giving any aid to a first-world country with a GDP growth rate in the 3% to 4% rate for years (even while we were stuck below 2%) and an unemployment rate below 4%?

    The Israeli economy is in better shape than the US economy; they should be giving us aid.

    “Baron Cohen, who confronted several GOP notables in the guise of Colonel Erran Morad, an Israeli security specialist, provided a number of clues that his interview was a sham but none of the victims were smart enough to pick up on them.”

    Yes, it is truly amazing what our “Best & Brightest” will do to stay on-side. Following Mr. Giraldi’s earlier post regarding the gubernatorial run of Israeli puppet Ron DeSantis and the Big Sugar connections of Adam Putnam, it would seem a Floridian’s least worst choice is Bob White.

    • Replies: @skrik
    , @Colin Wright
  14. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:

    Christian America has dual loyalties, one to a foreign middle-eastern “King of Israel” (John 1:49); thusly, dual-loyalty Christian American has implemented the following foreign policy straight out of the Jew Testament:

    1. “WE WORSHIP what we do know, for salvation is from THE JEWS.” John 4:22

    2. “THE JEW FIRST.” Romans 1:16

    3. “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they OWE IT TO THE JEWS to share with them their material blessings.” Romans 15:27

    • Replies: @Miggle
    , @Mike Rotch
  15. skrik says:

    Israel is nothing but trouble. It has the right to defend itself

    1st part: Absolutely, indubitably correct.

    2nd part: ¿Qué? Why do people say/write this? Under what corrupt arrangement does an oh, so obvious outlaw have any such right?

    Consider: A gang of out-of-towners turns up at a block of flats, breaks the doors down and occupies the building, killing some erstwhile owner/occupiers and ejecting most of the rest on the way in, thereafter whooping it up big, and ignoring [obviously too feeble] orders to RoR+R*3 [= Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation.] Since when can such outlaws dictate anything, thumb their noses at the Law?

    Property, especially here land, is alienable – but this does not meansubject to seizure by aliens.’

    Kindly consider: “A fair exchange is no robbery.” A fair exchange means willing seller, interested buyer, and a freely and fairly agreed price. No such thing exists vis-à-vis the forcible colonisation of Palestine. Some proof may be seen here[my bolding]:

    By 1949, some 700,000 Palestinians had fled or been expelled from their lands and villages. Israel was now in control of some 20.5 million dunams (approx. 20,500 km²) or 78% of lands in what had been Mandatory Palestine …

    Land laws were passed to legalize changes to land ownership.[5]

    5. Ruling Palestine, A History of the Legally Sanctioned Jewish-Israeli Seizure of Land and Housing in Palestine. Publishers: COHRE & BADIL, May 2005, p. 37.

    Especially in reference to the illegitimate entity which terms itself Israel, wiki is not reliable, being, like the US Congress, Israeli-occupied territory. So it is noteworthy that they write “in control of” as opposed to ‘own.’ They can’t ever own it due to not having purchased it, and Palestinians may not surrender it, due to the UDHR which specifies *inalienable* rights:

    Article 3.
    • Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
    Article 17.
    • (1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
    • (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

    Also, see the Washington Consensus:

    10.Legal security for property rights.

    Further, there is UNSC242: inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war, plus only just law may earn respect, and/or be respected. A law dispossessing erstwhile legal owner/occupiers is an utter travesty.

    Me; comment: Its illegitimacy is all so howlingly obvious!

    Fazit: Apart from the ~6% of ‘pre-Herzl Palestine’ which ‘invading by stealth’ alien, mostly European Jews managed to purchase, the illegitimate entity does not own nor can they ever own the land/property they squat upon, which still belongs to the erstwhile owner/occupiers, specifically the ‘native’ pre-Nakba Palestinians [now including heirs & successors]. Then, the illegitimate entity does not declare borders for two reasons 1) any such declaration would be [probably successfully] challenged and 2) the illegitimate entity expresses the desire to expand to ‘from the Nile to the Euphrates.’ Q: Just how ghastly is that? A: Could hardly be worse.

    Closing the loop: How can land-thieves have any ‘right to defend’ such improperly alienated land/property? It doesn’t compute! rgds

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    , @Patricus
  16. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben_C

    Jerusalem has long been the capital of Christian America (Revelation 21:2). Christians all hope to live there forever. Christian America doesn’t consider their own land to be holy. Christian America considers foreign soil to be holy.

    Christian America slavishly follows white-patriarchy-critiquing (Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, Luke 22:25) Rabbi Jesus, who told them to “hate” their own blood and kin (Luke 14:26) and “forsake” their own soil (Matthew 19:27-30). They’ve obeyed the Jew well.

    Christians hope to be paid for obedience to the Jew, a heavenly “reward” from their Jewish master. Christians beg like a dog to their foreign Jewish “Master” for crumbs from a table set “only” for Jews (Matthew 15:21-28) Maybe the Superjew will give them a bone.

    • Replies: @Patricus
  17. Thank you, Mr. Giraldi, for another forceful rebuke of Zionist criminality and US culpability.

    The supremacist kosher state is a cancer on America. Just survey the wreckage. Count the bodies. Who benefits from this?

    The Zionist project is a plague on humanity. It entertains no compromise. It will stop at virtually nothing. Examine the blood-soaked damage from Soviet Russia to Germany to Palestine and beyond. It moves Washington around via remote control.

    The situation has become very grave. Speech deemed ‘anti-Semitic’ is rapidly being criminalized worldwide.

    Right wing political expression (that Jews don’t like) on Twitter, Facebook and the web is being de-platformed for speech infractions that involve ‘hate’. But it’s only ‘hate’ of a certain stripe.

    After all, hatred is ubiquitous in America. It cuts in every direction. So why is the focus so intense on just one spectrum of hatred?

    Might it have something to do with the political preferences of those in power?

    Oh maybe.

    Principles be damned. Whose ox is being gored?

    With that in mind, consider this: who might actually be the biggest hater of all?–and killer? (Hint: it’s certainly not the powerless Alt-right ‘deplorables’.)

    Might it instead be the world’s foremost victims?

    After all, incendiary speech–even ‘hate speech’–does not kill. It takes bombs, drones, tanks and missiles to accomplish that.

    So where’s the uproar over routine sorties which needlessly dispense death and destruction?

    It’s gone missing.

    Incredibly, it is rough speech and acute political criticism–not failed, horrific wars–that are being criminalized. Pro-Zionist ‘wars of choice’ still get a pass in our corporate board rooms, TV studios, news rooms, and in most of Official Washington.

    This entrenched distortion allows neocons and their underlings to jawbone and plot their next preemptive war. The Big Squeeze is on. Beware Russia, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Iran. Zionism is an ‘unshakable’ Washington value. So get ready.

    How distant wars advance the interests of average Americans remains a mystery.

    Despite this puzzle, America’s MSM offers little resistance and no straightforward criticism of Zio-Washington’s ceaseless war efforts on behalf of a certain ‘democratic ally’. In similar fashion, the Fourth Estate has also been compromised.

    It’s worth remembering that, according to the UN Charter, a state-sponsored ‘First Strike’ against another sovereign state is the most serious war crime. This elementary moral precept however matters not–at least not when Israel is pulling the strings. Quiet, children. Listen. Obey.

    What we have here is a pattern of vast serial criminality.

    Zio-Washington has become Israel’s war vessel. We regular folk are just along for the ride.

    So don’t forget to cheer for the good guys!

    Incredibly, US-enabled, Israeli ruthlessness has gotten even worse under ‘America First’ Trump. After all, Trump needlessly tore up Obama’s hard-fought peace deal with Iran.

    Why would Trump make such a move? (As a candidate, he was far less hawkish).

    Our weakened and despised President needs desperately to please America’s foremost lobby. Trump cannot govern without their support. This peculiar situation however requires additional blood-letting on behalf of the Zionist state. Foreign wars that benefit Israel are the unwritten price that the goyim leadership in America must pay. Sorry folks!

    (Are you listening, Tehran?)

    Jewish power corrupts. Overwhelming Jewish power corrupts in overwhelming fashion.

  18. Deschutes says:
    @Ben_C

    You’re kidding, right? I hope so, because if you don’t think US senators and congressmen are totally afraid of and beholden to Israel, your head is way up your ass!

    • Replies: @General Mustache
  19. Jake says:

    None of this can register in a meaningful way, because for it to register and alter the way people respond first and foremost, the seed of the national culture would need to be converted, as it were.

    WASP culture is the product of a Judaizing heresy.

    • Replies: @skrik
    , @anonymous
  20. skrik says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s certainly difficult to explain how else Mossad came to be filming the attack

    Err … ‘do + document?’ It’s certainly difficult to explain how 19 reputed Muslim/Arab hijackers could have ‘control demolished’ WTC7; ~2.5secs at *exactly* free-fall speed, WTCs 1&2 at almost free-fall speed [plus the outwards-ejected massive steel sections], and all mainly ‘all the way down’ into their own ‘footprints’ = all three control demolished [all for one; one for all]. Camel-f**ckers just ain’t that clever, eh? The observed fact that the US rogue-regime made no ‘counteractions’ vis-à-vis the so-called ‘attack on America’ made all ‘responsibles’ accessories; before [covert agencies], during [order-givers] and after ['led' by the corrupt&venal MSM+PFBCs [latter = publicly financed broadcasters]; all vile traitors.] Ho, hum; just another US/Z travesty. rgds

  21. @Colin Wright

    “Israel could not have come into being without our support”

    It took quite a while for me to get there but the more I look into the matter the more I’ve come to the conclusion that this Israel project has been the overriding motivator for more wars than I could fully list, including the so called World Wars (1 and 2 being the same war with a break in between). How many lives have been destroyed and ruined? We’ll never know but it will not end well, for anyone.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @TKK
    , @Dave K
  22. @Anonymous

    “Oh right, who can forget the cabal of Jews controlling the US government and military at the time of the Iraq invasion, such as President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers, CIA director George Tenet, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice…Every.Single.Time, am I right, folks?”

    Most of Congress are goy also……..yet are trained seals for the yid state, doing whatever is asked. Are you trying to make some point?

    • Replies: @Anon
  23. JessicaR says:

    I read these kinds of articles with mixed reactions.

    On the one hand, I believe Mr. Giraldi should choose his language more carefully. Perhaps instead of referring to “Jews,” he should narrow this to “Jewish Likud supporters” or something similar.

    The Jewish community as a whole is moderate, reasonable, and not especially devoted to war. It is a subset of the community–which, alas, happens to be well-funded and dedicated–that promotes war 24/7.

    I believe Mr. Giraldi would appear more credible if he made this crucial distinction.

    On the other hand, someone will always comment that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al. are more powerful than Wolfowitz and Feith. I believe this line of attack ignores crucial facts.

    1. It is these less powerful underlings that package the information that their superiors use when determining policy. One need only recall the Office of Special Plans, headed by Feith, that cherry-picked intelligence to make the case for war. Also, Wolfowitz served as Bush II’s foreign policy tutor when he was a candidate.

    2. It has been credibly reported, I believe by Dana Milbanks in the Washington Post, that Jewish donors provide 50% of individual donations to the Democratic party and 35% of donations made to the Republicans. This kind of money gives those hawkish elements of the Jewish community considerable power. In a system in which the vote is split almost equally between both parties, these funds are crucial to electoral success.

    So, yes, the Israel lobby is extraordinarily powerful. But no, it does not represent all American Jews.

  24. This reaction you get as to why you have “this thing” with Israel is common. It beautifully shows how Americans have been trained to yawn and have no interest in the 10 ton rhino in the parlor. It is quite amazing isn’t it?

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  25. @mark green

    I always enjoy reading your posts Mark. You are a gifted man. Unfortunately, due to your position, you will never get wide readership.

    • Agree: geokat62, Rurik
  26. geokat62 says:
    @Colin Wright

    The point is that essentially, these policies are merely stupid rather than actually evil. It’s not evil to think we should just let whoever wants come into the US. It’s dumb — but it isn’t evil.

    Couldn’t disagree more. As Prof. MacDonald has documented, the domestic wing of The Lobby has pushed for almost 100 years to get non-restrictionist immigration legislation through the Congress. It was a deliberate attempt to eradicate antisemitism by altering the demographic makeup of the country. As many Jews have recently confirmed (quotes can be furnished upon request), they prefer to live in a heterogeneous society as they feel more safe/less threatened relative to a homogeneous one.

    That said, it is perrhaps more apt to describe their motivation for pursuing a ‘come one come all’ immigration policy as diabolical.

    In the words of Prof. MacDonald:

    And this is a disaster. This is an absolute cataclysmic disaster for the white majority. And it is the result of Jewish activism. So that’s a fundamental statement made. When I started reading about that, that’s when I got angry…

    But when you’re importing over 60 million people, you can’t undo that, very well. That’s setting up a massive ethnic conflict

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  27. Tom Welsh says:
    @Anonymous

    “Oh wait, they aren’t Jewish?”

    And some people smoke cigarettes all their lives and don’t get cancer.

    What’s your point?

  28. @JessicaR

    Jessica – I never say “all Jews” or even “most Jews” but to ignore that the dominance of Israel is a Jewish problem is to turn one’s back on reality. It is Jewish oligarchs and organizations that push the Israeli agenda, that fund it, and that sustain it in the media and on capitol hill. I know there are a lot of liberal Jews and even some not so liberal ones that abhor what Israel is doing but are afraid to say anything lest they be called “self hating.” They have to get off the fence and declare that the USA is their home and that Netanyahu’s insistence that Israel is the Jewish homeland is a self-serving fraud. Until that happens, Israel will dominate America’s foreign policy discussion, to our damage. Israel is a foreign country and should be treated by Washington like any other foreign country, i.e. based on US national interests.

  29. Respect says:

    The USA is Israel .

    • Replies: @anonymous
  30. @Colin Wright

    “There is a moral dimension to life. There is a distinction between striving to do good — however unsuccessfully — and willingly participating in evil.”

    Exactly. The Talmud is nothing less than a satanic how-to manual encouraging Jews to live as evil a life as possible (see the Ron Unz article on this site regarding the Jewish religion). And as long as America is along for the ride it will share in the consequences of that evil.

    In a perfect world (I’m not holding my breath!) Giraldi’s article would be read by every American.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  31. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben_C

    “special relationship” with Israel is itself the result of terrible national security and foreign policy” while I agree that the statement is true, if does not begin to explain the depth of Zionist control of the American Empire, nor does it look to the origin of that control.

    1. Israel is the network @ Colin wright, @ anonymous in reply to Ben_C as well as

    2. The well researched book entitled “The Israel Lobby and U. S. Foreign Policy by John J. Mearsheimer (the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguised Service professor of Political Science and the co director of the progarm on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago) and Stephen M. Walt (the Robert and Renee Belfer Professor international Affairs at the John f. Kennedy School of government at Harvard University and past academic dean of the Kennedy School which discusses the Impact of US Foreign Policy as it relates to America’s nation interest.

    3. https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/05/570217/US-aid-to-Israel-to-exceed-38B
    38 billion is $112 per America given to Israel by the USA congress
    What possible benefit can Americans get from giving a bunch of militants in the Middle East 38 million?

    4. Article VI of the US Constitution readmitted back into Independent America the entire banking and corporate leaches which caused the American revolution, explained in some detail on this website just a few days ago. @ Anon[317] • Disclaimer says: August 12, 2018 at 12:31 pm GMT • 1,100 Words wherein the so called landed estates and landed Gentry were mostly British Banking and Trading and Slaving Corporations (many Jewish owners) doing business in America. Their wealth was derived from their land ownership and corporations licensed to do business in America by foreign governments. The British Aristocratic land grants mostly made to privately owned British banking, trading and slaving corporations or wealthy British and French Aristocrats allowed foreign nations to deed title to American land. These baron-landed owners, the so-called Gentry, were the very centers of the British a-human rights authority and vicious corporate and political powerhouses that controlled the American Colonies of Britain. It was the landed gentry that brought the American colonist to revolt against British rule. BUT just 12 years after the 1776 Declaration of Independence, the banker and Aristocrat favorable US constitution was imposed by a process called ratification? ( a third party regime change process that appears in the US Constitution as Article VII?). This ratification process was used to impose the very same British mostly Wealthy Crowd to not only keep their land granted lands, their personal wealth earned by inhumanity to mankind, and their educated Aristocratic global life styles in America. So the US constitution itself allowed to be installed: a government that only gave the British Baron Aristocrats voting control of America’s destiny but it also terminated the Democracy (Articles of Confederation) that so much American blood had been spilt to bring about. These were the some of the forefathers forefathers to global Zionism, a part of the powerhouse support team of the Jewish banking and corporate global network, many of whom became team members in the formalized conspiracy to take control of the oil in the world and to weaponize immigration in order to take the oil from the Arabs. In 1896 (Switzerland , first Zionist Congress) the Jewish controlled organizations weaponized immigration and aimed it at the Ottoman Arab oil. Trace a failed coup attempt against the Ottoman, the Balfour Agreement, WWI, British and French control over once Ottoman Palestine, the Palin Commission, a network established military base that became Israel, immediate International recognition by the Jewish controlled nations of the world) and so on. .

    I trust you might now be “… entirely sure why .. the narrative that US Politicians {must be ] .. [elected, salaried] …stooges and puppets of Israel… ” few outsiders are allowed to take a position among the 527 who control the law making powers and war making powers that the USA uses to force Americans into their wars.

  32. Miggle says:

    It seems that a large proportion of the members of the US Congress are Israeli citizens.

    It is unconstitutional for a member of the Australian Parliament to be a dual citizen. This is taken to such an extent that if it’s found that an MP born in New Zealand moved to Australia as a baby, that person’s election becomes null and void, unless he or she was conscious of the situation and verifiably renounced NZ citizenship prior to the election. That is so even in this mad case of Australians and New Zealanders having the same head of state, the English monarch.

    Why on earth can’t America bring in a similar law, making it impossible for Israeli citizens to vote in its Congress, to even be there?

    • Replies: @unseated
    , @Q
  33. skrik says:
    @Jake

    a Judaizing heresy

    G’day. I’m fascinated by your ‘Judaizing heresy,’ in the way a mongoose is fascinated by a King cobra:

    The mongoose is notorious for one fascinating fact – their astounding ability to battle and kill some of the deadliest creatures on Earth

    Now that’s absolutely admirable, and something we definitely need when confronting a certain parasite, say. But back on track, can you provide a ‘definitive description’ of your ‘Judaizing heresy?’ [A 'proper' citation would be nice; authoritative, relatively complete but of 'digestible' length, please.] In asking, I have an ‘ulterior motive,’ namely 1) I’m searching for another ‘definitive explanation’ – of exactly why so many of the ‘ruling’ Anglos sell-out to the Jewish parasites, and 2) why the [admittedly traditionally passive] plebs all so easily ‘go along.’ If we take the I/J/Z-plex’s threats seriously [we'd better], they are ‘dead-set’ on ruling the whole world [= over all non-Js], to the extent of killing us all [see greasy william's mad = demented ravings, say.] rgds

    • Replies: @Anon
  34. @mark green

    In contrast to the ZUSA Congress’s standing ovations for Netanyahu’s criminality Mark Green wrote: “So don’t forget to cheer for the good guys!”
    Hi Mark, No pun, your comments on P.G.’s high- value articles are a consistent High Mark.
    … In addition, you asked, “So where’s the uproar over routine sorties which needlessly dispense death and destruction?”
    … I shall attempt a reply, Mark. Americans of stratified income levels have fell victim to Zionist Jew social engineering which, as you know, is a terminal cancer in our nation’s zeitgeist.
    … My brother, below is an article written by the Chicago-based, Kathy Kelly, who is coordinator of “Voices for Creative Nonviolence.” She is an individual & conscientious “UPROAR” who understands how the U.S. is deeply implicated in the appalling Carnage in Yemen, the poorest country in the Arab peninsula!
    … Fyi, Kathy did months of jail time for her peaceful protest at a ZUSA weaponized drone base. I cowrote an open letter to the Roman Catholic Church which politely asked Pope Francis to consider meeting with Kelly during his ZUS-city tour. A few web sites published the letter, but as anticipated, SILENCE from the institutional church who evidently believe, “blessed are the peacemakers who tow the ‘Jewish power’ line.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/13/u-s-is-complicit-in-child-slaughter-in-yemen/

    Thank you, Mark.

  35. Miggle says:
    @Colin Wright

    It goes on, and on. If someone is considering a run for Congress, he gets a nice little packet from AIPAC. Among other things, he’s asked to write an essay expressing his feelings about Israel.

    But… but… why don’t all the competing candidates for that seat agree that they will all ignore such requests? Wouldn’t that be safe and easy?

    And in the course of the electoral contest leave the subject of Israel out of the debate? Never mention it?

    Anything else is clearly corrupt. So you are saying that every single present member of Congress is manifestly corrupt.

  36. anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Catholics are hilarious; it’s like they never read their own catechism.

    “To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’”

    Catechism of the Catholic Church

    Glory be to the Jews! Now say “Judaizing heresy” again. LOL

  37. The Apartheid State cares about itself.

    Fine.

    I care about humanity. That includes you.

  38. @anonymous

    The countless victims of the RCC allowing itself to become a haven for pedophiles pretending to be priests for centuries probably don’t find Catholics that hilarious, but I see your point.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  39. @mark green

    Hi Mark Green,
    Am certain you realize that I am not merely seeking attention to what I write & do, but for the sake of the shallow Reaganesque “trust but verify” canard, linked below is the “open” letter cowritten with an intelligent, artistic, & conscientious man, Gary Corseri.

    https://www.pressenza.com/2015/02/appeal-kathy-kelly-pope-francis/

    … Selah, Simon & Garfunkel, “The (prize-fighter) ‘Boxer for Christ’ hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest!”

  40. skrik says:
    @The Alarmist

    least worst choice

    Haw. Better to be in the tent pissing out? Haw again; only IF/WHEN a workable majority of people get the *completely correct* idea that ‘representative government’ is a *total swindle* [= crock of s**t], may anything stand any chance to be ‘changed for the better.’ Do you personally think that checking some box or pulling some lever, every 2, 3 or 4 years, gives you any sort of ‘control’ over your destiny? Haw the 3rd; always and only IMHO, you may only be expressing your choice for the face that rules over you, that eventual ‘chosen’ face not giving a single hoot for what you may most fervently wish for – again IMHO, that’s the ‘A&O’ of utter irresponsibility. rgds

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  41. Too many great points in this great article to address, and attempts to embellish them would be an insult to this fine writer’s work, but I can’t resist commenting that this point must be emphasized and no insult’s intended.:

    Israel is always right for many policymakers and even palpably phony Jews like Colonel Morad are instantly perceived as smarter than the rest of us so we’d better do what they say.

    It’s long been apparent that Giraldi hit yet another nail squarely on the head with that since it’s more than obvious that the IQ cultists here and elsewhere are motivated by exactly that and these are not new concepts, so be aware.

    Even a “Red” sympathizer like Lippman saw through the fraud.:

    “One has only to read around in the literature of the subject, but more especially in the work of popularizers like McDougall and Stoddard, to see how easily the Intelligence test can be turned into an engine of cruelty, how easily in the hands of blundering or prejudiced men it could turn into a method of stamping a permanent sense of inferiority upon the soul of a child.

    - Walter Lippmann, The Abuse of the Tests, The New Republic, November 15, 1922, p. 297 –

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/NewRepublic-1922nov15-00297

    “And in the meantime the psychologists will save themselves from the reproach of having opened up a new chance for quackery in a field where quacks breed like rabbits, and they will save themselves from the humiliation of having furnished doped evidence to the exponents of the New Snobbery.

    Walter Lippmann, A Future for the Tests, The New Republic
    , November 29, 1922, pp. 9-10

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/NewRepublic-1922nov29-00009

    “3. This benefit [of the tests] is in great danger of being offset by dangerous abuse if the claims of the intelligence testers are not purged of certain fundamental assumptions.

    4. The most important of these fundamental assumptions are: (a) that the intelligence test measures “intelligence,” (b) that “intelligence” is fixed by heredity, and that the intelligence test reveals and measures hereditary intelligence.

    Walter Lippmann, A Future for the Tests, The New Republic
    , November 29, 1922, p. 10

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/NewRepublic-1922nov29-00009

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @gsjackson
    , @utu
    , @Da Wei
  42. Miggle says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Jessica – I never say “all Jews” or even “most Jews”

    Right. There’s a big difference between “the Jews” and “this Jew”. A man can’t be blamed for existing within the culture that he was born into and brought up in.

    But to denounce the conduct of the Jews collectively, such as the historic financial predation for which they collectively are notorious, and try to do something to prevent it, is quite proper.

    Likewise to denounce the essential evils of Judaism itself, its racism and hatred for all, is quite proper. Those evils are not the fault of any individual Jew.

  43. anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Respect

    Yep, you’re 77% (75% + 2%) correct.

    “For it is we [Christian believers] who are the Circumcision.” Phillipians 3:3

    Why would any white man want to identify as a middle-eastern, genital-mutilating c0cksucker, anyway? Confronting these C0cksucker Christians is important.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  44. @mcohen

    Tiresome stuff.usual suspects.

    You don’t know tiresome.

    You wanna hear tiresome? Try “6 million.” Or “the” “H”olocaust. The list is much longer, but you’d likely miss the point, so what’s the use?

  45. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    What looks self-deceptive in your case-making is you picture a willed domination (willed by both the led and the leading) as a compulsory one (willed only by the leading).
    This is the blemish at the root of your discourse: you portray a consensual relationship as a compulsory one.

    My way of thinking was not unlike yours until, at circa age 30, I firstly joined an online “community” where they did “co-operative group work”.
    That was when I apprehended the invariable dynamics of “communities” — and what rueful apprehension that was for me.
    The organization member is a machine that both seeks power (to rise in the rigid, hypocritically tacit yer carefully made evident, pecking order) and, adaptively, reveres it. You have these devices that regard themselves as autonomous subjects that spend their time welcoming pecks coming from above and making sure they peck who is below. All of this repressed, and never said, in the most hypocritical way one could imagine (the free one who says what all know will be singled out and cast out).

    Now, that single experience has served as a lens to read what goes on in the world at every level, from the World Bank and USA congress to families and Facebook groups.
    And eventually I came to accept that it could never be as it is if it didn’t befit the wide majority of people, and that one can stay clear of organizations if one doesn’t want to be a be-pecked-and-peck hypocritical machine.

    Unz himself is an example. He has the freedom he has because he made himself a website.

    There is an essential variance between loathing the game and loathing the best players — I think only the former is a just attitude.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Herald
  46. @skrik

    Every existing nation has usurped the property of the folks that they replaced. Every nation. Every European nation, the US, everywhere. The jews came late to the feast. First thing, let the US give itself back to the Indians, and then ask Israel to act the same way.

  47. Bucky says:

    Change will only happen when people in their 30’s today come into power.

    Israel is really because of white Protestants. But the churches are dying, slowly. Latinos definitely would not support Israel to the same degree. Neither would blacks or Asians. Really none of the new diversity will. Only the white evangelical Protestants are so emotionally invested in Israel because of the seriousness with which they read the Bible.

  48. @JohnDoe345

    In a perfect world (I’m not holding my breath!) Giraldi’s article would be read by every American.

    All of his and Ron Unz’s articles would be read by every American.

    So would Freda Utley’s book, The High Cost of Vengeance, be read by every responsible American, if they can stand plowing through the tales of horror, hypocrisy, and hideous sadism practiced by Americans on innocent Germans even years after the “end” of WW2. Her charges of essentially satanic behavior by “Americans” (such as the infamous filthy “Abu Ghraib” style black hoods on the heads of, and sexual humiliation and torture of innocent prisoners) in Europe are supported by Charles Lindbergh’s charges against American behavior in the South Pacific as expressed in his memoirs.

    Unz has done the world another favor by linking to her book.

    http://www.unz.com/book/freda_utley__the-high-cost-of-vengeance/

    • Replies: @Notanisraeli
    , @Malla
  49. Respect says:

    Americans , beware of the ” Rapture ” .

    • Replies: @anonymous
  50. @skrik

    I guess I’m not ready to meet up with Randy Weaver & family, so I’ll keep filling in ovals on ballots.

  51. anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @ISmellBagels

    A haven for pederastic pedophiles, indeed. From the very beginning.

    There was reclining on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved….He, leaning back thus on Jesus’ bosom, said to Him, “Lord, who is it?” (John 13:23,25)

    And do ask why priests/preachers get taught their art of deception* in a semen-ary.

    * Every seminary teaches hermeneutics, named after Hermes, the smooth-talking trickster god.

  52. Miggle says:
    @Anonymous

    Christian America has dual loyalties, one to a foreign middle-eastern “King of Israel” (John 1:49); thusly, dual-loyalty Christian American has implemented the following foreign policy straight out of the Jew Testament:

    1. “WE WORSHIP what we do know, for salvation is from THE JEWS.” John 4:22

    2. “THE JEW FIRST.” Romans 1:16

    3. “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they OWE IT TO THE JEWS to share with them their material blessings.” Romans 15:27

    Every book of the New Testament was written by a Jew, but they were not Talmudists, not rabbinical Jews and expressly rejected the hypocrisies of the Pharisees, even though Paul was a Pharisee. Further, the Jews of the era were farmers, not financiers (being very general … Paul was a tent maker).

    Don’t try to compare them, real Hebrews, real Judeans, with the fake Jews of today.

    It is the Palestinians, still Judeans, who are the only real Jews today, even though Muslim. Remember, the Jews who wrote the New Testament were Christians, but they were still Jews.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @renfro
  53. @Miggle

    So you are saying that every single present member of Congress is manifestly corrupt.

    I don’t know if it’s “manifest,” but every single one can be reasonably expected to become corrupt to a high degree soon after obtaining the position, and it’s obvious to me that it’s nearly impossible to obtain such a position without be corrupt.

  54. The Zionists took control of America in December 23,1913 with their privately owned FED passed by a corrupt congress which in addition to their IRS which was passed in October of 1913 completed the Zionist control of America and then the money creation out of thin air by the Zionist bankers and their wars for profit and debt for the American people began.

    Every war including WWI was a Zionist banker war with the Zionists acting as an agent provocateur and this has continued right down to the wars in Syria and Yemen and Palestine, where ever there is a war the Zionist bankers are involved and millions die for the profits of the Zionist bankers and Americans have been driven into trillions in debt via these Zionist wars.

    The elephant in the room is the fact that Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911 and got away with it and every thinking American including congress knows it and is afraid to say it or do anything about it, and this proves the Zionist control of America when they can murder 3000 Americans and get away with it.

    America is a Zionist controlled plantation and we goyim are slaves on the Zionist plantation.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  55. @Anonymouse

    First thing, let the US give itself back to the Indians, and then ask Israel to act the same way.

    Wrong.

    The first order of business is for ‘Merkins to grow a pair and to quit bending over and spreading their cheeks for the likes of gangsters like Netanyahu.

    The second order would be to actually do something about that smirking pig, and here’s one reason why.:

    Nixon papers suggest Israel stole nuclear material from US in 1965, and more…

    “The Israeli press is picking up Grant Smith’s revelation from FBI documents that Benjamin Netanyahu was part of an Israeli smuggling ring that spirited nuclear triggers out of the U.S. in the 80s and 90s.”

    mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-from-u-s-big-story-in-israel.html

  56. @Anonymouse

    “let the US give itself back to the Indians, and then ask Israel to act the same way.”

    Save the stock yammer. Jews were given their little fake state to live amongst themselves, but all they’ve done with that grimy little gift is use it to further their sick dreams. Constant illegal expansion of their borders and mass murder of those they steal from. Apples and oranges. Israel will not survive in the long term. It can’t. More intelligent Jews see the writing on the wall as do the rest of us.

  57. The If Americans Knew blog published in May a ‘list of [American] groups and individuals that publicly support Israel.’ If the goyim had a tenth of the Jews’ zeal and organizational skills…

  58. @anonymous

    Make note of my posting name.

  59. skrik says:
    @Anonymouse

    let the US give itself back to the Indians, and then ask Israel to act the same way

    Give the US back to the amerindians! Give Aus back to the abos! This does not work; it’s called ‘moral relativism’ and/or the ‘tu quoque’ [appeal to hypocrisy] fallacy.

    Then ask Israel to act … err, hello? Israel has been ‘asked,’ over 100 times by some counts, to ‘get legal’ under UN resolutions. Israel is an outlaw.

    Kindly consider the I/J/Z-plex’s 10 steps to utter, criminal ignominy:

    1. Herzl; coveting, expropriation (1897+)
    2. Balfour; aid Zs, no consult Ps
    3. Jabotinsky; colonise by force
    4. Ben-Gurion: “we are the attackers and the Arabs … own the land” [points 1 - 4 all pre-WW2]
    5. UNGA181: “an area … shall be evacuated” (invalid + no UNSC action = not law)
    6. Meir; $US50mio for arms + Plan Dalet&Co = premeditated, murdering to steal aggression
    7. When immigrants (=aliens) attack natives, it’s *not* civil war but Nuremberg-class crime
    8. Z-terrorism; down to today; alien invaders’ highest-tech vs. besieged & blockaded, basically unarmed natives
    9. US-support incl. UNSC vetoes; also down to ‘current moment’
    10. Z-hasbarah = mostly lies, designed and deployed to deceive

    More: Post-WW2, Nuremberg trials, hanging perpetrators for murdering invasions for Lebensraum predate King David Hotel bombing, Plan Dalet with outrages like the Deir Yassin massacre, etc.. Similar outrages continue to be perpetrated by the illegitimate entity, into ‘the current moment.’

    Lemma: At any crime-scene, there are one or more perpetrators, possibly accessories, apologists and/or ‘idle’ bystanders. It is incumbent upon *all* witnesses to attempt to a) restrain malefactors and where possible b) rescue victims from harm. *All* present and not in active resistance to the crime attract proportional guilt.

    Addendum: Any person profiting from crime also makes him/herself an accessory, like all residents in the ‘illegitimate entity,’ say.

    Also post WW2, we got the post-colonial era; the illegitimate entity fulfils the ‘premeditated supreme international crime’ criteria. RoR+R*3 NOW! QED

    PS Showing ‘support’ for criminals adopts part guilt for those criminals’ crimes via the accessory process; why would anyone in their ‘right’ = correct mind do that?

    • Replies: @Anon
  60. anarchyst says:

    If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.

    The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a “special exemption” granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned or nuclear triggers (tritium) were being renewed, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  61. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    to which language might this be translated to make it make sense?

    google translate does not offer “pretentious twaddle to ordinary English.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  62. Giraldi is here-unlike in most of his regularly anti-Semitic texts- right about one crucial thing: American Gentile cow-towing to (real or imagined) Jewish power in the US, as illustrated by absurd Baron Cohen’s episode.

    However, I don’t blame most of US Jews for that. Jewish ethnocentrists are to be suspect, sure, but the main question for US gentile politicians & public figures remains: why are you such suckers, anyway?

  63. Miggle says:

    Netanyahu uses snipers to shoot dead scores of unarmed demonstrators and the snipers themselves joke about their kills without a peep from Washington, which styles itself the “leader of the free world.”

    It can be proved that the European Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews are Aryans. The Nazis were never able to identify Jews by appearance, even though Gestapo officers were trained to do that. It was all family connections and lack of baptismal records, and being circumcised.

    Bernt Engelmann in his book, “In Hitler’s Germany”, gives some striking examples. He was twelve years old when Hitler came to power. He participated with a small group in helping Jews escape, either get out of Germany or go into hiding. But his school experiences till 18 are part of his story. He mentions a good school friend, Susanne, blond, blue-eyed, who was glorified in the special school class they had on the racial superiority of the Germans. Glorified because she was a perfect example of a Nordic Aryan. He mentions that her skull was a perfectly shaped Nordic Aryan skull, according to the teacher at those race lessons.

    But she suddenly disappeared. She had been expelled from the school when it was discovered that she was 100 percent Jewish. (She escaped. He helped.)

    It is such Europeans, mainly Ashkenazi but still racially Aryans, who conquered Palestine. It is Aryan snipers who rest safely behind the ridge of a hill and fire dumdum bullets at the Semites walking on the plain below that is crossed by the Gaza fence, and, as you say, joke about it.

    The Aryans who have stolen historic Palestine are determined on total genocide of its Semites, intent on the Final Solution.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  64. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Is it possible to give your reasons for believing that World War 1 started in order to further the aims of Zionists?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  65. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @ISmellBagels

    Congress is owned by the direct donors and other providers and withholders of the money involved in getting and staying elected. That is not truof the Executive branch of government. I’m not saying that he proves his point but you need to try again with a better argument on your side.

    • Replies: @renfro
  66. Sam Shama says:

    Between Jessica at #23, and Anon at #45 lay two paramount pieces of instruction which Phil Giraldi ought to heed.

    Ordinary Jews are no more required to register their objections over AIPAC’s actions than are Christians over the actions of their top leaders including the POTUS, domestic MIC lobbies, the Gun Lobby and the Oil lobby; no more that is, beyond what each citizen expresses through her vote. Individuals may choose; to go beyond, into political activism; yet choice is the operative notion.

    And no, Geokat, Power isn’t listening to Phil over the sound of crickets for the simple reason that Power does not read the UR, couldn’t care less if they did, as the Review quite rapidly degenerates to the station of an unrelenting hate rag frequented by dubious IQ cultists, antisemites and White Nationalism apologists.

  67. @Colin Wright

    I think that Ben_C forgot to affix the “sarc” tag on his post.

  68. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    Parents aren’t actually responsible for their teenage children’s misdeeds, and shouldn’t be. If a 16 year old commits murder, we don’t lock up his mother or father. It’s true that the US props up Israel, but we also prop up Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Egypt, too. Many very wealthy and influential people in the US are ethnically Jewish and have a special attachment to Israel, but back in the 20th century, when the Anglo-Saxons ran the country, they had a special relationship with England, and forced the US into two world wars where hundreds of thousands of Americans died, and millions of others. The strategic value of Israel to the US is that Israel keeps Arabs busy, while the oil flows. When the oil stops flowing, Israel’s influence will wane.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  69. Anonymous[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Aw gee, he’s entitled to cherish his one big insight inne?

  70. @Bardon Kaldian

    “but the main question for US gentile politicians & public figures remains: why are you such suckers, anyway?”

    You are obviously of the “we hold the power and what are you gonna do about it” Jew vein. This brings up something that was never very clear to me. Considering how white Anglo Americans have so willingly allowed themselves to be most obedient hacks for Jews and their zionism, why do these Jews want so much to exterminate them, or at least castrate their culture? Why kill off the golden goose? When the Jew dream of a non white America finally comes to pass, you may not like what you have. These people will mow down your Holocaust Museums and replace them with taco stands and Micky D franchises.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  71. @Miggle

    If the point of your anecdote and observation depends (for you for some reason) on the facts of Ashkenazi ancestry it fails. Unless you can persuade UR readers (other than believers in Arther Koestler’s Khazar 13th tribe) that old h-bd colleague or correspondent Greg Cochran is wrong the starting assumption should be that Ashkenazi Jews average about half Middle Eastern genes.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  72. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @skrik

    Every system of law I know of recognizes the acquisition of title by possession and in Israel’s case most of the world has accepted its title to the pre 1967 boundaries so it looks as though your account and ypour views wiĺl have to just remain part of a case you want to make for change.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @skrik
  73. @Rich

    ‘Parents aren’t actually responsible for their teenage son’s misdeeds…’

    Oh.

    • Replies: @Rich
  74. @Sam Shama

    “Ordinary Jews are no more required to register their objections over AIPAC’s actions than are Christians over the actions of their top leaders including the POTUS, domestic MIC lobbies, the Gun Lobby and the Oil lobby; ”

    None of those lobbies have the power and influence of AIPAC, to the detriment of the United States. Zionist Jews obviously see the US as its useful idiot superpower, and will milk this country for every drop, then move on to another host to destroy, like all good parasites..

  75. @ISmellBagels

    Don’t write bullshit, I’m not a Jew (although I am an anti-anti-Semite).

    There is no Grand Jewish Conspiracy, those who believe in this are brain-dead (they probably believe in flat earth or witches or whatever…). What is real for Judaist Jews in the US (perhaps 20% of all American Jews & ethnocentric Jewry) is that they are well-connected, obsessed with their identity (Auschwitz etc.) & Israel. Kissinger, for instance, was not one those tribalist Jews.

    What is puzzling is that many Gentile American public figures are some kind of Israel worshipers & completely uncritical. Many are, perhaps, corrupted; others are simply Evangelical nutjobs; yet many are certainly overestimating Jewish & Israeli power.

    What can these ethnocentrists do to, say, Kevin MacDonald? Nufin. To Ron Unz? Nufin. To Chomsky? Nufin. To nuts like David Duke? Nufin. Or Farrakhan? Nufin.

    This entire Jew-Israel-US-ZOG stuff is overrated. It does exist, but it is way overrated.

  76. Felicity says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    “Many in the intelligence and law enforcement communities suspect that it (Israel) had considerable prior intelligence regarding the 9/11 plot but did not share it with Washington.”

    And according to Jimmy Carter Israeli intelligence had advance information of the suicide attack on the US barracks in Beirut in 1983 that killed 243 US servicemen (one of whom was a member of my family). The Israelis decided to not inform US intelligence in the hope that a major attack on US personnel would precipitate a commitment of US troops and arms into the region. So much for our Israeli “ally”.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  77. T. Weed says:

    Excellent, as usual, from Giraldi. No Israel, no war, it’s as simple as that. The Original Sin of the Zionists, the ethnic-cleansing of Palestine, has never been rectified or even acknowledged, and then they gave us the HolyHoax, which has deranged the world.

  78. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miggle

    Anything else is clearly corrupt. So you are saying that every single present member of Congress is manifestly corrupt.

    Ya think?

    LOL. Uncorrupted congress-critters might — might — be counted on one hand? Maybe?

  79. Wally says:

    And what enables The Parasites / The Usual Enemies of Free Speech?
    Exactly.
    The fake & impossible ’6,000,000 Jews & gas chambers’.
    I know it, you know it.

    Science, rational thought, & logic simply demolish the ‘holocaust’ storyline.
    And that’s why there are Thought Crime Laws that imprison those who engage in free speech about it, that’s why free speech activists are persecuted, harassed, stalked, & beaten.
    Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.

    Challenging the ridiculously fake ’6M Jews’ is now mainstream, get used to it: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/05/paul-craig-roberts/morality-truth-facts/
    and:
    on Irving & ‘holocaust’: Ron Unz: A Defender of Truth: http://www.unz.com/announcement/the-remarkable-historiography-of-david-irving/

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  80. Anonymous[197] • Disclaimer says:

    Haaretz, a liberal Jewish newspaper, once had an article titles something similar to “The Iraq War Would Not Have Happened Except for these 25 People”. Of course, they were mostly Jewish. I read the article way back when and have been unable to find it again. I believe it has been removed.

    It is also quite clear that Iran does not a present a threat to the US, but it does present a threat to Israel.

    The war on Syria is largely fought to protect Israel. This was revealed by State Department memos published by Wikileaks.

    I agree completely with Giraldi that the US needs to treat Israel like just another country and through the prism of what is in our national interest.

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @jacques sheete
  81. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @ISmellBagels

    The countless victims of the RCC allowing itself to become a haven for pedophiles pretending to be priests for centuries probably don’t find Catholics that hilarious, but I see your point.

    The RCC is as corrupt as the US Congress, and all local, state, and Federal entities.

    • Replies: @ISmellBagels
  82. @anonymous

    ‘Catholics are hilarious; it’s like they never read their own catechism.

    “To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’”

    Catechism of the Catholic Church…’

    I think you fail to understand successor theology.

    Traditionally, Christians (and this is true of Muslims as well) see themselves as the successors to a corrupted Jewry that has failed God. See the parable of the husbandmen, for example.

    In this sense, Christians (or Muslims) are the true Jews — God’s elect, who follow his Commandments. For example, the Muslims took care to build al Aqsa on what they determined to be the site of the original Temple. This wasn’t an act of triumphalism; they were renewing Judaism — the true Judaism.

    Ditto for Christians. See all the references to ‘Jerusalem’ in Christian theology. They’re always talking about a Christian Jerusalem.

    Now don’t get me wrong; I think it’s all nonsense. But no — the Catholic Church isn’t worshipping Jews. No fear. Jews are fine — just as soon as they accept Jesus. Muslims would add that they need to read their Quran.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
  83. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    it’s more than obvious that the IQ cultists

    I don’t think that Unz’ preoccupation with IQ must necessarily draw only IQ-cultists to the web-page. The core of the IQ Nutjob Brigade is maybe six people? 10 max?

    Ignore them. IQ is bullshit.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  84. With all due respect, Philip Giraldi falls into a neoconnish trap, assuming that the US must confront someone. This mindset is bankrupting our country. Just look at the new military budget: almost $720 billion. If we add “hidden” funding, like that for spy agencies and DOE money to maintain nukes, we are wasting almost a trillion per year on “defending” from enemies that either do not exist or are created by the US policies. Why can’t our country just live and let live? Switzerland does not confront anyone, yet Swiss live better than Americans.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  85. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben_C

    That’s the retaining wall built by the Romans, half a mile away and nothing to do with the Temple destroyed by the Romans.

  86. @Bardon Kaldian

    David Duke is no nutjob. If you are not a Jew as you claim, then you’re just another shabbos goy brainwashed idiot. Duke has been demonized endlessly because of his history of speaking the forbidden, which is Jewish power at work in the US. His books get rave reviews on Amazon, and most people who bother to read what he writes go away realizing they’ve been duped by the Zionazi mafia.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @anonymous
  87. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Every system of law I know of recognizes the acquisition of title by possession

    You don’t know WTF you’re talking about, dumbass. The mode is recognition of uncontested title by possession. For that matter, most states do not recognize any form of title by adverse possession.

    Read up, d00d.

    • Replies: @Anon
  88. @Anonymous

    I’ll agree with you there. How they still have adherents eludes me.

  89. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    American Gentile cow-towing to (real or imagined) Jewish power

    Bardon, fyi, the conventional english spelling is “kowtow”.

    Some might display unseemly amusement at your suggestion that American Gentiles are dragging bovines around the pasturage.

  90. @AnonFromTN

    Huh? You must be kidding – read the rest of my stuff. I am passionately against the US confronting anyone unless it is actually threatened. I only talk about confronting Israel to remove it from our politics and our foreign policy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @AnonFromTN
  91. Hitler called jews schmarotzer, parasites.
    I wonder what ‘the only democracy in the Middle East’ would be without financial, political and military support of the USA, Germany, Netherlands, France, EU and NATO.
    I also wonder what the world would be without the destruction of Afhanistan, Iraq, Lybia and Syria, and the war on Iran.
    And how the EU, for the moment mainly Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden, would be without the mass immigration caused by these destructions.

    • Replies: @ISmellBagels
    , @Incitatus
  92. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @skrik

    Read Jake’s numerous posts about the puritans. He’s explained it thousands of times.

    His thesis is that the reformation puritans dumped the Christian New Testament for the endless warfare against the rest of the world Old Testament. This led to the takeover of America’s foreign policy by the Old Testament Jewish Israeli Lobby

    • Replies: @skrik
  93. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    I only talk about confronting Israel to remove it from our politics and our foreign policy.

    Impossible. 90% of government operations at local, state and Federal levels are owned by Israeli interest. All public school systems indoctrinate American children that America, wholly and willingly, is the Faithful Defender of Israel. Even the illegal-alien majority will eventually be brought to heel — certainly before they are granted full voting rights.

    You know, and I know, there is only one effective solution. Machiavelli knew what he was talking about.

  94. @Philip Giraldi

    That makes a lot more sense, especially considering that:
    1. The last time the US was threatened by a state actor was Caribbean crisis in the early 1960s, more than 55 years ago. Even that was provoked by the US putting its missiles in Turkey, which is more than 8,000 km from the US.
    2. If we stop wasting trillions on wars that achieve no purpose except enriching MIC and creating new enemies, we can live within our means without running huge deficits every year. That would be the smartest thing to do in the interests of the US as a country.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  95. @jilles dykstra

    All very laudable questions, Jilles.

  96. JessicaR says:
    @Anonymouse

    You are, of course, correct that the US committed either genocide or near-genocide (depending on your definition of the term) against Native Americans. However, NOW, in the 21st century, any Native American who is a US citizen is free to buy property in any part of America and live where he chooses. Native Americans are no longer confined to reservations. While poverty is a fact of life for many Native Americans, some tribes have profited substantially from gambling. In Florida, Seminoles may receive upward of 40,000 a year (each man, woman, and child) as their share of the gambling revenues. They can certainly afford to buy property just about anywhere.

    (Note that I am not denying that much discrimination and inequality still persist and that most reservations with gambling offer very little to tribal members.)

    In Israel, however, Palestinians cannot return to their home towns and buy property. They are not free to live where they choose. Many are still confined to refugee camps. Housing discrimination continues to persist for Israeli Arabs. Yes, the High Court ruled it illegal, but few remedies are in place, which means the practice continues largely unabated.

    If you want to use historical analogies, I believe you should use them in full.

    • Replies: @ISmellBagels
    , @Wally
  97. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miggle

    Decades ago AIPAC waited for candidates to run for office. Not any more. Now they recruit potential Congress critters in college and bring them along and get them elected to Congress .
    Along the way they might be elected to a city council. There they might turn over running the city community centers to a Jewish Social Services agency. Or local airport security to an Israeli company. Or ADL training city police that White skin head Aryan Brotherhood types are the worst crime threat* Or they’ll influence the local health department to go easy on kosher markets and restaurants.

    Next step is state legislator . They will mandate holofraud education in the schools and state university. And state contracts to American Jewish and Israeli companies

    * ADL has run thousands of these sessions claiming Whites not blacks and browns are the criminals in the big black and brown cities like Chicago. They also run training sessions trying to convince the military police that White, not black soldiers are crime prone

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  98. @Bardon Kaldian

    Likely knowing better, Bardon Kaldian asked: “… but the main question for US gentile politicians & public figures remains: why are you such suckers, anyway?”
    … Elementary, my dear Kaldian! (zzZigh)
    Answer: money

  99. skrik says:
    @Anon

    Every system of law I know of recognizes the acquisition of title by possession

    Thnx to Anonymous[143], I don’t have to a) call BS on Anon[436] and then b) demand adequate substantiation from Anon[436], IMHO impossible, but it might amuse Anon[436] and others to know, now 70 years down the track, that fairly regularly, usually on an annual basis, the great majority of the UNGA renews its demands on the illegitimate entity to honour UNGA194 [which, in partial exchange for 'recognition' it promised to do], my paraphrase of UNGA194 being RoR+R*3 = Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation. Look up my words if you don’t ‘get it’ immediately.

    In defiance of ‘good sense’ and actual reality, for their ‘ultimate prestige project,’ the early Zionists decided to set their sights on long-term inhabited Palestine – *not* a land without people, note – but worse, they decided ‘by hook or by crook’ to wrestle the land away from the legal owner/occupiers, finally, worst; they ‘reached deeply into their bag of tricks’ = lying, cheating, theft and murder, thus disclosing to the whole wide world their viciously criminal natures. Proof by inspection.

    PS and attention Wizard of Oz; I’m aware that the Khazar thesis is not ‘accepted’ by some UR-denizens, but I would like to see adequate substantiation for a non-Khazar origin. Note that Zs are heavily invested in the risible “God promised it to us!” – so any substantiation would have to be a) pretty damn convincing and b) provided via strictly ‘non-biased’ sources. Then Q: Does this man look Semitic?Haw.

    • Replies: @Anon
  100. @Anonymous

    Ignore them. IQ is bullshit.

    I’d like to ignore them, but they are typically so unctuously and fraudulently smug that I prefer to mock them.

    I think Lippman (may he otherwise burn in Hades) was correct about them, and it sounds as if you’d agree.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  101. @Anonymous

    Some might display unseemly amusement at your suggestion that American Gentiles are dragging bovines around the pasturage.

    Especially given the obvious fact that American Gentiles are often bovines being dragged around the pasturage by their noses.

    “Hate the Gentile!” Israel’s Racist Rabbis, by JONATHAN COOK
    “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
    Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.”According to Yosef, death has “no dominion” over non-Jews in Israel.
    “Hate the Gentile!” Israel’s Racist Rabbis, by JONATHAN COOK

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/israel-s-racist-rabbis/

    And some act like oxen pulling around (or paying for ) swine spreading sewage.

    “WASHINGTON — “I’m not spreading propaganda,” George Stephanopoulos’ orthodox-nun sister vows, but Israeli soldiers last week “defecated” on the floors of a West Bank medical clinic they raided.
    They’re also looting Palestinians’ homes there, claims Sister Maria Stephanopoulos, a nun at the Convent of St. Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13678/

    Did someone mention spreading shit?

    “[Israeli] Skunk truck spraying putrid liquid [sewage like liquid]all over residential homes in the village of Nabi Saleh.”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2013/01/israeli-occupied-palestine.html

    Netanyahu ought to face “justice” for that sort of thing as well.

  102. Druid says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Anti-Semitic? That tired ol’ canard again! For shame.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  103. utu says:

    Cohen’s performance is instructive. A man shows up in Israeli uniform, claims to be a terrorism expert or even a Mossad agent, and he gains access to powerful Americans who are willing to do anything he says.

    It is very telling about the human material on the right in America. Complete morons. Now think about it. It was a prank, right? But I can imagine that real negotiations with Israelis are very similar and produce similar positive outcomes for Israelis. Israelis play Americans anyway they want on all levels of federal and local administrations. They have the same attitude towards Americans as Jack Abramoff had towards his counterparts at Indian reservations. Why shouldn’t they? It works.

    he called his Indian clients “troglodytes” and “morons” and “monkeys,” “the stupidest idiots in the land.” In one particularly damning e-mail he counseled Scanlon, “The key thing to remember with all these clients is that they are annoying, but that the annoying losers are the only ones which have this kind of money and part with it so quickly. So, we have to put up with this stuff.”

    At best American are annoying losers who part with their money quickly.

    Mr. Giraldi, why do you bother with your articles? You still have illusions that you can educate the monkeys?

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Incitatus
  104. gsjackson says:
    @jacques sheete

    The lack of intellectual self confidence by the goy is a largely unnoticed phenomenon, belied by the zealotry with which they parrot the opinions they have taken from one or another mainstream source. As one example, I never for the life of me understood how Louisianans elected as governor the swarthy pseudo-goodolboy from India, Bobby Jindal. He got credited with addressing effectively some problem in the state health care system as an aide in his 20s, and apparently people decided that he must be from some species of higher intelligence. I guess — only explanation for his political success I can think of.

    Certainly the Jews, with their glibness, have long exercised intimidation in academia and other venues where the spoken or written word (as opposed to demonstrable results) have always carried the day. The deference they’re shown no doubt stems in part from verbal dominance, and that is why it is so important for wordsmiths who see what’s going on, such as PG, to carry the fight in unsparing terms.

    Of course, we goy may in fact just be profoundly stupid. How else account for how few notice the 10-ton rhino in the parlor (thanks, Bagels, for a new twist on the old metaphor)?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  105. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    “special relationship”

    It smacks of supremacism, doesn’t it? It means the US must favor Zionist occupiers in West Bank over Palestinians, the very people who are being occupied.

    It means the US must favor Israel, a nation that stole uranium from US and has 300 nukes, over Iran, a nation that passed all inspections and has no nukes.

    This special relationship is a form of worship. It is never discussed rationally WHY Israel is so crucial to us. Instead, politicians and pundits gush about it with fanatical devotion, as if it’s a sacred truth. Anyone who questions it even slightly is marginalized or destroyed. Some might Giraldi has been too strident, but even mild criticism of Israel or Zionism can get you banned from media or politics.

    I find it odd that Jews always remind us that Old America was ‘racist’ because it favored Europeans over non-whites, especially in immigration and foreign policy. After all, the US often sided with European imperialists over non-white subjects of colonialism.

    In New America, there is supposed to no Special Treatment for any group, but Jews and Israel get it all the time. In asylum(Save Soviet Jews), in immigration, in college admission, in foreign policy — not just in supporting Israel at every turn but in waging Wars for Israel and hating on any nation hated by Jews, esp Russia, Iran, and Syria.

    • Replies: @bj
  106. Druid says:
    @Sam Shama

    Yes, but judging by you and the Jews I know, ordinary nice guys at that, support for and pride in Israel and the tribe is foremost. So most collude silently and with donations to one or other of the AIPAC type organizations. A small percentage oppose the abomination that is Israel today!

  107. skrik says:
    @Anon

    Read Jake’s numerous posts about the puritans

    Thnx, but if you don’t mind, I’d rather wait for ‘the real thing’ direct from Jake; it’s not likely to be easy and I’d like to know the whole “Who What Where When Why+How” neatly and compactly packaged if possible. rgds

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  108. @Miggle

    A pox on all the Abrahamic religions; they share the same destructive core belief: that they’re ‘religion’ has a lock on god, troof, salvation itself, and that by virtue of their having thought up this troof, they have not only the right but the obligation to enforce it upon every other people and system of belief in the world.

    The degrees of separation are minuscule between Jewish belief in their exceptional, chosen, lock on god, morality, and the truth; and Christian belief in their exceptional, chosen, lock on god, morality and the truth; and Muslim belief in their exceptional, chosen, lock on god, morality and the truth.

    How are the claims of Rabbi Ken Spiro — that Jews are “chosen” to “lead all other people to morality,”

    that much different from the declarations of Heather Nuart on behalf of the US administration, in imposing greater sanctions on Iran:

    Just came across this conversation on Greg Johnson’s Counter Currents website that made a lot of sense: “Christianity” is an Eastern myth system; it did NOT “civilize” Europe and the West; rather, it eradicated the native folklore that was the basis of disparate European cultures.

    Elizabeth Kostova’s The Historian, https://bookpage.com/reviews/4357-elizabeth-kostova-historian#.W3Ls3y2ZM1g an expanded riff on the Gram Stoker’s Dracula, drove home this notion: that fairly localized folklore defined the peoples in their regions for millennia, and though waning (sadly), still serve as identity-markers and cultural unifiers.

    R H S Stolfi’s Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny makes almost 90 references to Hitler’s deep understanding of opera, especially German and Wagnerian opera, which were based on ancient Nordic/Germanic folklore. Hitler’s reliance on these innately German points of identity served to unify the German people in a way that religion had not and could not: indeed, Bismarck had used the conflict between Protestant and Catholic to divide, thereby weaken, the German people.

    The Iranian people have been conquered by numerous powers, but they are and remain united around their national, Persian, epic, The Shahnameh, in addition to Persia’s many revered poets. https://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/shahnameh/

    From my personal perspective, Italo Calvino’s collection of Italian folk tales https://newrepublic.com/article/114763/ursula-k-le-guin-italo-calvino
    is a source of identity and liberation: if the Roman Catholicism in which I was heavily raised never quite fit, it’s because Catholicism distorted rather than celebrated the soil of folk lore from which my Italian roots emerged.

    The world wars of the twentieth century, and indeed the nearly 150-year long overarching zionist project, are an on-going effort to impose upon mankind — or at least Europe and its civilizational heirs — the notion that the Hebrew mythos and its interpretations (i.e. Talmudism) are superior to- and should displace the mythologies of all other peoples.
    In 1919 H Sacher wrote:

    THE Zionist movement dates from A.D. 70, the year of the destruction of the Temple and the Jewish State. The Zionist Organization dates from 1897, the year of the first Zionist Congress. The Zionist movement is a longing and striving to restore to the Jewish people normal national life.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1919/07/a-jewish-palestine/303393/

    For over 2000 years Jews have borne a grudge against the Roman and Christian forces that overwhelmed them. In pursuit of — indeed, in thrall to that vengeful force, zionists have uprooted — no, make that destroyed — rained death upon — entire nations: millions of people have been killed, or lost their homes as well as their cultural identity, as zionism gives vent to its compulsion to prove the superiority of its moral vision.

    That is the difference between the cultures of nations like Iran; the Carpathian mountains region that Elizabeth Kostova fell in love with; the quirky and often terrifying folktales Calvino records; the Wagnerian Germany of what Stolfi calls Hitler’s “romantic vision,” versus the murderous and vengeance-laden ideology of Sacher’s zionism and the Christians wedded to it: Italians from Genoa say, Better a death in the house than a Pisan at the door, but Genovese don’t create propaganda campaigns demanding that YOU, outsider, wage war against Pisa. They don’t give their local hatreds international scope, nor seek to ally it to a superpower that could destroy the object of their animus.

    Zionists. Do.

    It is part of their myth system.

  109. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnonFromTN

    If we stop wasting trillions on wars that achieve no purpose except enriching MIC and creating new enemies, we can live within our means without running huge deficits every year. That would be the smartest thing to do in the interests of the US as a country.

    Israelis are opportunistic parasites who feed off the productivity and economic prosperity of others. Israelis have no concern for patriotism in the host — what’s it to them? They drain the current host until it loses adequate vitality, then move on to greener pasture (never mind the shift of metaphor ;-)).

    Israel will run America into the ground and never bat an eye at the destruction of the home and country of others. Israel will, eventually, do to America what they do to Palestine, or Lebanon, or Syria.

    Israeli control is complete. Frankly, I suspect Israeli control would survive some fairly significant upheaval here, in form of rebellion or secession. If you think we lake trout can tear off those lampreys, think again.

  110. @Ben_C

    Thanks for the info about Rand Paul’s support of Israel. Who knew? Not me!

    • Replies: @Talha
  111. Israeli sympathizers played a concrete role in the successful execution of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. They also initialized the Iraq war. On those accusations alone Israel needs confronting. However, we cannot lose sight that there are a whole group of people in the CFR with a global agenda and with massive influence in media, government, and entertainment that also support Netanyahu’s fanatical Likudniks as well as the Scofield puppets in the U.S. Congress. The CFR’s technocratic dogma on the surface appears to be in opposition to nationalism. However, we have the same scenario played over and over in the fairly recent past of globalist entities promoting identity politics. The end result of this is massive conflict resulting in millions of deaths.

    We have a supremacist culture of Chabad Lubavitchers controlling the U.S., Russian, and Israeli governments that need exposing and who have successfully fused religion and criminality with politics. To ignore this fact is to ignore the importance of the Sabbatean/Frankist movement that the Jews once purged themselves several hundred years ago. That is one part of the threat to humankind. The other part is the powerful group of intellectual supremacists that control all forms of media and who literally and explicitly admit in their official archives that they want to wipe many of us off the face of the planet.

  112. utu says:
    @utu

    This made me think of Gogol’s “The Inspector General” and Carl Zuckmayer’s “The Captain of Köpenick.” Don’t Americans see they are being played that all that Israel has is a confidence game and chutzpah?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  113. Ibn Issam says:

    Here is a timely related article:

    Why it’s now every American Jew’s duty to oppose Israel’s government

    Netanyahu’s zealous dissolution of democratic norms is a critical moral and political mistake. It’s leading U.S. Jews to question even attenuated support for the Jewish state, while framing Israel as an unreliable, undesirable ally for America

    David Rothkopf | Aug. 5, 2018

    https://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-why-it-s-now-every-american-jew-s-duty-to-oppose-israel-s-government-1.6342202

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  114. Ibn Issam says:

    Israel Is Not a Liberal Democracy

    Israel does not share many of the most important values of Western liberal democracies, including the United States.

    by Paul R. Pillar, 8-12-2018

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/paul-pillar/israel-not-liberal-democracy-28392

  115. Mulegino1 says:

    As the worst of the Jews are their international elements, their so called “elites.” The same is the case for the powers that be in the west, as international Jewry makes effective demands for kosher compliance among them.

    Adolf Hitler was quite prescient (or perhaps prophetic) when he wrote the following the better part of 100 years ago:

    For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.

    Exactly! Israel’s main purpose is to provide a heavily armed redoubt for international lawlessness and a safe haven for international fugitives from justice. What else is to be expected from the first state in history founded upon acts of terrorism?

    The only patriotic American view is not only to severe ties with the criminal entity, but to go much further and make amends for the crimes committed at the behest of this criminal entity by its willing accomplices and corrupted and blackmailed shabbos goyim among our political class and in the councils of our government. This is not just one more entangling alliance, this is a deadly viral infection of our political institutions.

  116. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    Ignore them. IQ is bullshit.

    I’d like to ignore them, but they are typically so unctuously and fraudulently smug that I prefer to mock them.

    I love it when the local eggspurt statisticians go to work on probabilities of genetic distribution, based on “intelligence” presumably-connected to some (‘scuze me) “string-o-genes” discovered on the back forty of some undefinable “ethnic group”.

    Sheesh. Right down to fractions of percents of illusory populations.

    I get to laughing so hard … can’t even bring myself to Reply, caustically or otherwise.

    • Replies: @utu
  117. Miggle says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    If the point of your anecdote and observation depends (for you for some reason) on the facts of Ashkenazi ancestry it fails. Unless you can persuade UR readers (other than believers in Arther Koestler’s Khazar 13th tribe) that old h-bd colleague or correspondent Greg Cochran is wrong the starting assumption should be that Ashkenazi Jews average about half Middle Eastern genes.

    … other than…? Don’t you mean other than Leon Uris in Exodus where he boasts that the Khazar kingdom was a Jewish state? Oh, Arthur Koestler, Hungarian Jew, said that, did he? Did he research it meticulously enough? Did he know anything about East European tribes, Huns, Magyars, Khazars, etc.? Did he see them whenever he looked around? Or do you mean Shlomo Sand, The Invention of the Jewish People, the surviving Khazar documents in Hebrew that he describes?

    Sand in the same book, debunking the invention, the fake rewriting of Jewish history, also goes into the molecular genetics, the fakery around that. Others have denounced the “cooking the books” to obtain the results that had to be obtained in that connection. Only to be expected by anyone who has read Israel Shahak’s JHJRW3000Y esp. the parts where he describes Jewish deceptions. Or are you describing DNA research concerning a matter of interest to Jews that nevertheless wasn’t conducted by Jews, but independently, not by Jewish geneticists in laboratories with Jewish directors financed by Jewish research grants, but independent of the interested parties and double-blind?

    You see, I’m trying to understand what you’re saying.

    But where did I say anything about the Khazar ancestry of the Ashkenazi Jews? I pointed out that the Nazis couldn’t distinguish Jews from Aryans and that one celebrated for her Aryan-ness turned out to be 100 percent Jewish. And I said the same European Jews, exactly, perfectly racially the same as Aryans, are exterminating the Semites of Palestine.

    Did I get it wrong somewhere?

  118. MarkU says:

    Why do so few people see the real root of the problem? Is it really credible that a tiny arid little country, with a very small population, which is a net recipient of massive amounts of aid, can really be capable of controlling the USA? Think about it, it is normally the donor of aid that gets to influence the recipient, not the other way round. Take another example, the UK. The two main parties in the UK both have large groups of MP’s that are ‘Friends of Israel’ Why?

    It is because bankers really rule the world. It is because so many of the worlds most powerful bankers are Jewish that Israel is so powerful. It is also why the world seems to be perpetually at war, bankers make money by charging interest on loans. it is in the interest of bankers to get countries into debt and there is no better way to get countries to borrow money than to get them into a war.

    Is that really so hard to understand?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  119. Paul C. says:
    @DESERT FOX

    And the US was officially bankrupted by the international zionist bankers in 1933 and has been operating under the Emergency War Powers Act ever since.

    https://anticorruptionsociety.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/senate-report-93-549_0.pdf

    Thus we have a “de facto” government (illegal), which is government “in name only”. The legal “de jure” government has been overtaken. What we think of as the “government” whether it’s the Federal or State and County, is really private corporations run by satanic freemasons, which is controlled by Int’l Jewry.

    In short, we’re slaves on the plantation under their fiat currency.

    James Trafficant speech in 1993: http://www.rvbeypublications.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/webjamestraficant.pdf

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  120. utu says:
    @jacques sheete

    stamping a permanent sense of inferiority upon the soul of a child

    The child we are talking about here, though I am not sure about the soul part, are all the white goys who go to websites of Sailer, Murray, Cochran and so on. The sites drive and reinforce the meme of super smart Jews who in meritocracy are destined to be on top and back it up with the ‘science’ of IQism. In return for absorbing the meme the white goys get to hear consoling news that they are smarter than Blacks. At least Kevin MacDonald also wrote about Jewish ethnic activism and networking (ethnic nepotism) though still he overdid on the IQ part. But this is just a confidence game, chutzpah and ethnic nepotism. Baron Cohen is a perfect example how Israelis’ confidence game is played and how it always works.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  121. @ChuckOrloski

    Not convincing. It may explain some events, but not anything like this: https://www.unz.com/freed/netanyahu-lets-you-and-him-fight/
    ……………
    But this is not at all unlikely. In Washington–where I worked in journalism for decades–fear of Jews is so great that no one dares say what a great many are thinking. It gets ridiculous. I remember many years back interviewing in the Pentagon the general who headed the armor command, whose name I forget. In such interviews there is usually a babysitter present, often a major from public affairs, who tries to manage spin.

    The general and I were chatting about tanks, in which we both had a technical interest. He commented that the Merkava, a home-brew Israel tank, was reasonably good but not in a class with the American M1. As inflammatory comments go, this was truly lame. Yet when I left, the babysitter came charging down the corridor to assure me that the general was not insulting the Israeli tank, the general didn’t mean, and the major hoped I wouldn’t think etc. It’s that crazy.

  122. Hi All, including Maven Shama!
    As Philip Giraldi was unjustly (immorally) ousted from T.A.C., below is a shady T.A.C. article which proclaims today’s incarnation of neocons are “no Ronald Reagan.”

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/on-iran-the-neocons-are-no-ronald-reagan/

    I suggest that the late-Gipper was the best servant Neocon-preZident that he could be at the time.

  123. Those Cohen clips are rather tame compared to what he convinced Dan Roberts, the founder of Youth Shooters of America, to do. Warning, this clip does involve the use of a realistic sex toy and might be considered NSFW during the last couple minutes.

    But hey, better to be humiliated by a TV actor than to question an “Israeli terrorism expert” and be called an Anti Semite.

  124. tsisageya says:

    Confront Israel? CONFRONT ISRAEL? Oh, the polite language to speak about evil. How can we not see what is happening? Oh dear, right, let’s CONFRONT the evil, apartheid Israel. Are you kidding me?

    Confront Israel how? Laws are even being made to not criticize Israel. What a joke.

    HEY EVERYONE, LET’S CONFRONT ISRAEL.
    While the U.S. is bending over to accept the *******.

    • Replies: @tsisageya
  125. tsisageya says:
    @tsisageya

    The bile rises in my throat.

    • Replies: @tsisageya
  126. @Felicity

    ‘…And according to Jimmy Carter Israeli intelligence had advance information of the suicide attack on the US barracks in Beirut in 1983 that killed 243 US servicemen…’

    Do you have a source for this?

    I’m perfectly happy to believe it — but before I repeat it, I’d like to know what Carter’s exact words were.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @chris
    , @jacques sheete
  127. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    This wasn’t an act of triumphalism; they were renewing Judaism — the true Judaism.

    Just a correction on this, bro. The actual claim of Islam is that it is returning to religion primordial – pure, transcendental monotheism which is that of the ‘Haneefs’ – that predates Judaism (Judaism being simply a branch):
    “He has laid down for you as religion that which He charged Noah with, and that We have revealed to you, and that We charged Abraham with, Moses and Jesus: ‘Perform the religion, and divide not regarding it’…” (42:13)

    “Abraham was not a Jew, neither a Christian; but he was a Muslim and one pure of faith (‘Haneef’); certainly he was never from the idolaters. Lo – those of mankind who have the best claim to Abraham are those who followed him, and this Prophet and those who believe (with him); and Allah is the Protecting Guardian of the believers.” (3:67)

    “They say, ‘Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided.’ Say, ‘Rather, [we follow] the religion of Abraham, of pure faith (‘Haneef’), and he was not of the polytheists.” (2:135)

    “So set your face firmly towards the religion, as pure faith (‘Haneef’); Allah’s natural pattern on which He made mankind. There is no changing Allah’s creation. That is the true religion — but most people do not know.” (30:30)

    But I totally agree with you in that Muslims believe their religion to have abrogated the previous ones. And from my reading of Christianity (I’m no expert), is that the old Jewish covenant has been replaced with the new spiritual one (as you mentioned, “successor theology”) – Zionist Christians would disagree however.

    **Please note to others, I’m simply making a clarification about doctrine, I’m not in the mood to debate the theological claims of Islam, so don’t bother**

    Peace.

    Note: This is a pretty good article on this subject of how Muslims believe that “Islam” (submission) is the default setting of the universe:
    “From the perspective of sacred history, however, as Muslims would understand it from their reading of the Qur’anic worldview, Islam is the oldest religion even predating the creation of human beings. Muslims view Islam as the primordial religion of the universe. If this sounds too metaphysical, simply consider the meaning of Islam – willing surrender to and harmony with God’s Will, meaning divine teachings and preferences.”

    https://islamfyi.princeton.edu/islam-essentials/

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Ibn Issam
  128. Druid says:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t think Iran poses a threat to Israel. Nit goes back to that talmudist revenge thing against the ancient Persians. In addition, an open Iran would be fierce economic competition for Israel. Irani government is a bit of a basket case

  129. @Anon

    ADL has run thousands of these sessions claiming Whites not blacks and browns are the criminals in the big black and brown cities like Chicago.

    Well, at least they may be onto something there, since it’s pretty obvious who the big criminals, as opposed to the relatively small time street criminals, are and they’re pretty likely to be “white” mafiosi of Eastern European descent brazenly posing as a certain eternally persecuted minority.

    They also run training sessions trying to convince the military police that White, not black soldiers are crime prone.

    The hideous Nurnberg and Dachau show “trials” conducted by the “allies” would tend to support that contention. In fact, the whole world war deals were breathtakingly sadistic criminal wealth transfer and power grabbing operations and I doubt if many blacks or browns or even yellows were the culpable principals of those wretched blotches on human behavior.

    Freda Utleys’ book, The High Cost of Vengeance will make any sensible person ashamed to be part of the human race, and not because of what the Germans did.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  130. @Anonymous

    This is good. I turned out to be a subconscious sage- a Chinese term, wrongly written, speaks on the deeper level of truth.

  131. @Paul C.

    Totally agree. Israel also tried to sink the USS LIBERTY attacking the ship for 2 hours killing 32 and wounding 167 and the attack was only broken off after a Russian destroyer came upon the scene of the slaughter and Johnson wanted the ship sunk and blamed on Egypt to support zionist Israel.

    Zionest Israel and the zionist banking cabal is destroying America.

  132. @skrik

    ‘Yes, but judging by you and the Jews I know, ordinary nice guys at that, support for and pride in Israel and the tribe is foremost. So most collude silently and with donations to one or other of the AIPAC type organizations. A small percentage oppose the abomination that is Israel today!’

    Equally to the point, even those Jews who oppose Israel usually don’t really oppose her so much as they just wish she were nicer. They still want an Israel — they just want it to be a ‘good’ Israel.

    Practically speaking, when push comes to shove, this means they support Israel. Can’t you stop killing Palestinians? But in the mean time, God forbid there’s a boycott. That would be anti-semitic.

    Essentially, about 95% percent of world Jewry supports Israel in about the same sense that 95% of Germans supported Hitler. Sure, the average German may have thought it was regrettable that that nice Mr Cohen downstairs had gone…away — but that didn’t mean he was about to start undercutting the war effort.

    Jews are for Israel. It’s the nation state of the Jewish people. I regret the fact — but it is a fact.

    They’re welcome to change, of course. In fact, I dearly wish they would. However, to date they haven’t.

  133. Rurik says:

    I mean, even to the point where the prime minister of Israel, Netanyahu, goes directly to Congress, without even informing the president, and speaks to Congress, with overwhelming applause, to try to undermine the president’s policies –

    it’s so egregious that it mocks every word spoken about Russia, and the dishonest, treasonous scum who ignore the elephant in the living room.

    Imagine Putin up there in the capital congressional chamber, lecturing us on our foreign policy, demanding that we repudiate our president and attack nations he wants us to attack.

    And yet it’s as one, they all carefully and dutifully pretend the emperor’s cloths are resplendent.

    The sniveling moral cowardice and treachery are ubiquitous. And that goes for all of Western Europe, Canada and the rest of the rotting, (((murdered))) Western world.

    Spencer dropped his pants and underwear, before backing up with his exposed rear end while shouting “USA!”

    our congress are like the attendees to the masquerade ball in this movie.

    at 15:35 in the video, watch how Vincent Price performs like Bibi in at the DC lobbyist parties.

    God bless you Mr. Giraldi.

  134. @Colin Wright

    Orwell did write about Department of history, that kept rewriting the history to back up present policies of government.
    He did not write about religious dogmas. But you can safely assume that it applied to them also.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  135. @ChuckOrloski

    Chuck, only part of the answer is money. There’s a whole list of pathetic human behavior that accounts for the perfidy.

    For example, McStain has long had ample amounts of both money and power, and probably wasn’t motivated by the usual death threats or extortion, yet he remains a putrid hemorrhoidal vassal to the mafiosi to this day.

    I suspect most of them are just sadistic assholes, that there’s a powerful genetic component, and I don’t say that to excuse ‘em.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  136. Talha says:
    @George F. Held

    Yeah, that was sad to read and see, but I’m glad I did. His father held out against them, but it seems the son is not the man his father is.

    Peace.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  137. tsisageya says:
    @tsisageya

    I guess it must be the shekels. Absolutely disgusting.

    It’s easier for a camel/rope to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Nuff said.

  138. Incitatus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “[what would Israel be without the] financial, political and military support of the USA, Germany, Netherlands…”

    Netherlands? Are you serious? In spite of your valiant, constant reminders of Adolf’s “jews schmarotzer, parasites” gospel? Shocking! Keep up the good work!

    “I wonder… I also wonder what the world would be…”

    Great wonderment, as usual, jilles. Take comfort. You’re not the only one asking questions. Some express even more important wonderment:

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=i+wonder+who+wrote+the+book+of+love+song&view=detail&mid=FDE96FFE5312DF778BADFDE96FFE5312DF778BAD&FORM=VIRE

    Enjoy!

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  139. Z-man says:

    Mearsheimer and Walt wrote ‘The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy’ well over a decade ago and things are much worse today. Israel the root of all our problems. Israel, the number one state sponsor of terrorism. Israel, more likely to sell our military secrets to Russia or China than Turkey is. Israel is the problem…Palestine is the solution.
    But as always beware the power of the Cabal.

  140. @Sam Shama

    Between Jessica at #23, and Anon at #45 lay two paramount pieces of instruction which Phil Giraldi ought to heed.

    Who are you to offer advice to Giraldi?

    And speaking of unrelenting hate, what advice would you give the likes of AIPAC, for instance, or the supporters of “H”olocaust museums and the like?

    Also, please enlighten us with your wisdom regarding any knowledge you have regarding the perps of anti-German, anti-Japanese, anti-Palestinian, and anti-Muslim hate and propaganda for starters. Some of us dumb goyim would love to know and are waiting for some wise one to enlighten us.

  141. tsisageya says:

    …otherwise, I have no idea what you people are talking about.

  142. Moi says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Nothing but respect for Philip Giraldi (and Ron Unz), but would question PG when he writes: “It (Israel) has the right to defend itself and protect its interests but that should not involve the United States.”

    What are Israel’s borders that are being defended?

    More important, the UN has no authority to hand over someone else’s lands without the consent of the indigenous people…

  143. @utu

    But this is just a confidence game…

    You certainly nailed it there, and it fascinates me that so few recognize the verity of it when even a dumb, ignorant, goy such as myself can see it.

  144. @Talha

    ‘…The actual claim of Islam is that it is returning to religion primordial…’

    As I recall, the gist of the Quran is more that while Judaism and Christianity started out as authentic revelations, they have been corrupted over time — and so now God’s repeating the ‘true’ Quran to Mohammed.

    Not just Abraham, but Joshua, Jesus, etc are all prophets — but their revelations have been corrupted over time (this is curiously likely to be true). Now here’s what God actually said…and what follows is often simply a tweaked version of Joshua or whoever.

    I strongly suspect that what Mohammed encountered were indeed corrupted and contradictory versions of Judaism and Christianity — the sort of thing one would expect to be floating around seventh-century Mecca. Since Mohammed himself was illiterate, it would have been all the harder for him to distinguish spurious from authentic texts. Clearly, the truth was somewhere underneath it all — but it badly needed sorting out and organizing. No, Jesus wasn’t the ‘Son’ of God — that’s ridiculous. But he clearly was a prophet, and he certainly could have been born of a virgin. That’s the sort of thing prophets do. Alright, that’s taken care of. Now for…

    No doubt Mohammed sincerely thought God was talking through him. However, what it all amounted to was an attempt to reconcile and make sense of what must have been a dreadful mishmash. Islam really is Judaism and Christianity: sorted out, made sensible, and adapted for modern times — circa 622 a.d.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Ibn Issam
    , @Akbar Ali
  145. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    Your laughing is not helpful. You comment could.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  146. tsisageya says:

    Seeya, wouldn’t wanna beeya.

  147. @Colin Wright

    Mr Giraldi,

    You already know the answer. Jews have financial and media power. They control the wealth through the global finance scheme and the narrative via effective propaganda. Combine that with high IQ and ethnic networking your dealing with a major force. The goyim philosemite elite are bought and paid for and or scared. They have sold us out!

  148. Moi says:
    @Sam Shama

    But aren’t all Muslims required to denounce 9/11….???

    • Replies: @Talha
  149. @Incitatus

    I hope you did not have the idea that my ideas about Israel and WWII, also WWI, are common in the Netherlands, or, I suppose, anywhere in W Europe.
    However, already some fifteen years ago, when I still had many questions about WWII and persecutions of jews, someone wrote me, anonymously, that he was a historian, that my questions were quite relevant, but could not be discussed.
    You should realise that in no country occupied by Hitler, as far as I know, deporting jews was so completely as in the Netherlands.
    We had some 100.000 jews, nearly all were deported, the municipalities registered religion, so it was not difficult.
    About 5000 returned.
    And we had hardly any antisemitism, the sephardic jews had been here since the 17th century, refugees from the Iberian peninsula, they contributed to far away trade, had their own community, mainly in Amsterdam.
    The asjkenazi jews who fled from Hitler Germany etc in the thirties were quite other people, they were not liked, dislike began, but their numbers were limited.
    Moreover, there is a certain guilt feeling, the Germans were given the names etc.
    So, criticism of Israel, next to impossible, unimaginable what people as Soros, Murdoch, Chaim Saban, Blitzer, Wolfowitz, are accused of.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Sam Shama
  150. tsisageya says:

    love? wonderment? comfort? I have no idea what is happening here.

    Now, if you use the name Jesus Christ, we might have something to talk about.

    But you don’t, so we don’t, do we?

  151. @jacques sheete

    F.J.P.Veale, ‘Der Barbarei entgegen, Wie der Rückfall in die Barbarei durch Kriegsführung und Kriegsverbrecherprozesse unsere Zukunft bedroht, Wiesbaden,1962 ( Advance to Barbarism, How the Reversion to Barbarism in Warfare and War-Trials Menaces Our Future, Appleton Wisconsin, 1953, London, 1948, nom de plume ´a Jurist’)

    • Replies: @Respect
  152. Sean says:

    By all means confront Israel if that is your thing, but don’t pretend that there is any possibility of besting them.

    Israel – not Russia – is the one foreign country that can interfere with impunity with the political processes in the United States yet it is immune from criticism.

    Yes. And that is why only Israel can tame American Jews.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  153. Ibn Issam says:
    @Talha

    Good point, that is an issue that many non-Muslims misunderstand. Also nice link!

  154. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete wrote: “Chuck, only part of the answer is money. There’s a whole list of pathetic human behavior that accounts for the perfidy.”
    Hi Jacques,
    … Oddly, my comments are getting chopped-off sometimes. Fyi, I mentioned other reasons besides money to Bardain; for example, need for attention, narcissism, love of limelight, unscrupulous ambition, and an eagerness to betray one’s country & merrily walk along the Rothchild-road to perdition.
    … Agreed, Jacques, they also might be run-of-Zio-mill, “sadistic assholes.”
    … On Zenator McCain, I intuit he risked loss of soul to become John “McStain.”
    Thank you!

  155. nsa says:

    The headline pic says it all: a sleazy smug ex Philly furniture peddler surrounded by an assortment of fawning servile americano butt boys. The conniving yids must be laughing their asses off…….probably even disappointed they aren’t meeting any resistance at all to their self-serving warmongering and relentless toxic scheming.

  156. Wally says:
    @JessicaR

    Is that why the are so many brown Indians everywhere?
    ‘Genocide, near genocide’ not.

    Given their violent xenophobia it’s no wonder that there were violent reactions.

    What “discrimination and inequality still persist “?

    It obvious that Indians have a complete free ride.

    see: http://www.unz.com/jthompson/proportionality-the-fairness-of-inequality/
    comment #19

    At least you got it right about Israel.

  157. Anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Your laughing is not helpful. You comment could.

    To what constructive purpose?

    1. The Emperor’s clothes are of the best silk.

    2. You can lead a horticulture but you can’t make her think.

  158. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    said:
    “We had some 100.000 jews, nearly all were deported, the municipalities registered religion, so it was not difficult.
    About 5000 returned.”

    Proof of your numbers, please. Specifics only.

    Where were they deported to?

    You’re implying they were murdered, they were not and there is no proof they were.

    Recall that the fake story says they went to mass graves in allegedly known locations. The alleged remains do not exist.

    It’s revealing how simple it is to debunk the impossible ‘holocaust’ narrative, just ask for proof.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  159. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    As I recall, the gist of the Quran is more that while Judaism and Christianity started out as authentic revelations, they have been corrupted over time — and so now God’s repeating the ‘true’ Quran to Mohammed.

    In essence, yes. My point was that the prophetic tradition according to Islam predates and subsumes the prophetic tradition in Bani Israel, but is not exclusive to the Semites. Basically God has been sending prophets to everyone since the beginning of time and their message keeps getting passed down with core truths, but also corruption and interpolation, omission, etc.:
    “Question: In discussing prophethood in Islam, what is the Sunni position on the possible prophethood of ancients like Krishna, Buddha, or Confucius?

    Answer: It is very probable that many of the great religious figures of other traditions were true prophets. Similarly, we see traces of monotheism in the beliefs and practices of such traditions. However, we do not affirm prophethood or Divine Origins for any prophet or religion that the primary texts of the Qur’an and Prophetic sunna have not affirmed such for. However, we also believe that the origin of religions is monotheistic, and they corrupt towards polytheism.”

    http://islamqa.org/hanafi/qibla-hanafi/43746

    “Verily We have sent you in truth; as a bearer of glad tidings, and as a warner. And there never was a nation (‘ummah’), without a warner having lived among them.” (35:24)

    As to what you stated about the origins of Islam; if I did not believe in it, I would likely come to your exact conclusions – which are actually the conclusions of some of the more generous Orientalists of the past.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  160. Talha says:
    @Moi

    That’s a good point. Being a Muslim, I can confirm that this was basic level expectations following the early years after 9/11. Many a dialogue on the subject of Islam or politics assumed this to be the ritual starting point.

    Peace.

  161. @Ben_C

    WOW you are clueless ..why do all members of congress etc sign the AIPAC agreement that pledges their allegiance to Israel FIRST..that is treasonous..do they sign such a thing for any other country? NO! WAKE UP! We are controlled by the synagogue of Satan ..our idiot leaders are bribed compromised puppets! Do you think it is at all suspect that Netanyahu just shows up whenever he feels like it, speaks in front of our idiot representatives and they give the pig a standing ovation and would lick his shoes if they could ..name another country who’s leader has done that ….Yes you can NOT! You need to research cause you aren’t even at step one SAD

  162. renfro says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yea it was suppose to be Hillary. Under her 51 US State Dept. officials demanded Obama bomb Syria.

    Why Did 51 American State Department Officials ‘Dissent’ Against Obama and Call for Bombing Syria?

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/06/why-did-51-american-state-department-officials-dissent-against-obama-and-call-for-bombing-syria.html

    51 U.S. diplomats who still haven’t grasped the negative outcomes of the disastrous wars launched since 2002, the solution is to bomb the world into America’s image. In an internal dissent cable addressed to Barack Obama, seasoned diplomats have urged airstrikes on the government of Bashar al-Assad in Syria.
    Chas Freeman, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War, told me he found the cable “unusual” in two respects. First, it garnered a large number of signatures. Most of those who signed the cable, a State Department official told me, were “rank and file” diplomats, such as a deputy to U.S. Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford and a secretary in the Near East Bureau. They had a good understanding of the current situation in the region. The second reason this cable is unusual, said Ambassador Freeman, is that the signatories “are arguing for rather than against the use of force.” Over the past 40 years, diplomats have used the “dissent channel” to caution against a rush to war. Now these diplomats are asking for an intensification of war.

    A former ambassador told me that many of the diplomats have great fealty to Hillary Clinton. Could they have leaked this cable to boost Clinton’s narrative that she wanted a more robust attack on Damascus as early as 2012? Is this a campaign advertisement for Clinton, and a preparation for her likely Middle East policy when she takes power in 2017? Clinton certainly advocated tougher military action in Syria. She joined CIA chief David Petraeus to push for a U.S.-backed rebel army in 2012, and she argued for air strikes when there was no appetite for this in the White House.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  163. Herald says:
    @Colin Wright

    Theres’s prior knowledge and then of course, there’s real prior knowledge.

    • Replies: @Sic Semper
  164. renfro says:
    @JessicaR

    The Jewish community as a whole is moderate, reasonable, and not especially devoted to war. It is a subset of the community–which, alas, happens to be well-funded and dedicated–that promotes war 24/7.

    Silence is consent.

    How many Jews don’t condemn Germans, Poles, all of Europe collectively for Jewish WWII deaths?

    Those who ‘gatekeep’ for the Jews also have blood on their hands.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  165. Sam Shama says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Speaking of wonderments, Jilles, do you ever wonder where the Dutch might’ve been today had there been no “aid” to Holland over the centuries in the form of colonial extraction, including from “Dutch East Indies”, “Dutch Ceylon”, “Dutch Formosa”, Malacca, Deshima, “New Holland”, Iran etc? That extraction wasn’t based on some variant of moral suasion and political engagement; your ancestral lot chose a simpler and far more direct method, n’est-ce pas? Funny how centuries of extraction has a way of compounding wealth!

  166. renfro says:
    @Miggle

    Please…..enough with the Jew myths.

  167. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    ‘…He did not write about religious dogmas. But you can safely assume that it applied to them also.’

    Yeah. I’m reminded of one of my readings in medieval history. The Catholic Church lived in a time when the entire upper class almost by definition lived by the sword — yet it was supposed to teach that to kill was a sin. How was one supposed to teach that the very reason for being of the entire ruling stratum of society was a deadly sin?

    The Church actually formulated a doctrine that it was okay to kill — so long as one killed with love in one’s heart. Basically, so long as one is merely seeking to kill the body it’s all okay.

    The remarkable thing is that if one reads through it, the argument actually makes sense. Sometimes I think it was contradictions like this that drove Western intellectual development.

    Now, of course, we need to teach that Judaism is just fine. One needn’t accept Jesus after all.

    That’s going to be a bit of a challenge.

  168. @Sam Shama

    “…antisemites…”

    There are antisemitic rants in many places on the web, almost all of which are ignored.

    But make an objective criticism of the Zionist enterprise now a days and its apologists resort immediately to unrestrained howls and accusations of antisemitism.

    One ought, therefor, to understand this rhetorical device for the simple ad hominem attack that it is.

  169. @SolontoCroesus

    ” For over 2000 years Jews have borne a grudge against the Roman and Christian forces that overwhelmed them ”
    Well, in my opinion understandable.
    Books as
    André Schwartz-Bart, ‘Le Dernier des Justes’, 1959, 1980 Paris
    Jakob Wassermann, ‘Die Juden von Zirndorf’, 1897 1999 München
    present jewish points of view.
    The question who waa morally right is for me is a difficult one.
    There simply was a clash of cultures.
    However, with getting equal civil rights in the 19th century, and a large part of jewry no longer religious, my judgment is that jews, not all of them of course, did not behave very clever.
    Especially in Germany after 1870, when the economy of the unified Germany grew very fast, and jews, more than non jewish Germans, saw and used the economic opportunities.
    From a minority that was looked upon in a few decades quite a few jews became enormously rich, and displayed their wealth.
    This was to some extent possible through economic cooperation.
    When the two or three % jewry then also, especially in cities, held 50% or so of occupations as lawyers, university professors, etc. and became important in politics, ‘real’ Germans began to feel that they’d lost their country.
    The Weimar Republic wa to a large extent run by jews;
    That Versailles was a jewish affair must have been known.
    And so one thing led to another

  170. renfro says:
    @Anon

    That is not truof the Executive branch of government.

    How dumb…of course it is, the president who wields the executive power depends on campaign donors to get elected.
    The Neanderthal Jew Adelson was Trump’s biggest donor. The other Jewish Neanderthal Saban was one of Hillary’s largest donors.

  171. Herald says:
    @Anon

    It seems things were going quite well until you hit thirty and then inexplicably your brain exploded. Interesting in a kind of way but not too relevant to the article. Let’s hope that by the time you are Mr Giraldi’s age you will have made a full recovery. It can happen, just look at Noam Chomsky who seems to be getting it right at long last.

  172. @Colin Wright

    They were “painters” and “window washers” – that they were cheering boisterously enough for jewified NJ residents to sufficiently be suspicious above and beyond their terror of being labeled anti-semites, they called the FBI and police with the license plates of the vans the agents were driving. http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-dancing-israelis/

    In those heady days after 9/11 when foolish Americans handed over their freedoms by the boat load, when they thought their government was going to protect them – the FBI detained these “Dancing Israelis” – these “Dancing Israelis” were ferried back to Israel without charges being filed.

    Today, the woman who called police would be thrown in prison for her “hate” – aren’t we all safe now?

  173. renfro says:
    @Sam Shama

    Wonder if Sham is familiar with the saying ‘whistling through the graveyard”……?

    I think Sham and his ilk are becoming aware or at least have some faint nightmare that more Americans are catching on to Israel and are against it…..and are in denial.

    The number of ‘woke’ on Israel, as they say, Americans is astounding, it has tripled or more in the last 10 years and is growing due to the zionist themselves attacking our free speech rights and activist with BDS attracting more of the public’s attention to it.
    We must keep up the rants and protest.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @RobinG
  174. @Herald

    When the Russian Government had information that the Tsarnev boys were plotting to blow up something, those “evil” Russians told the US government – they were ignored – Russia being an “evil” foe. But the nice Israeli’s, “Our best friends and the only democracy in the Middle East” – instead of telling the US Government of a the most massive attack in US history being impending – kept silent, instead they sent Mossad to film the event and celebrated the dumb gentiles being slaughtered by the thousands and who would now in their blind rage and lead by a drunken buffoon – slaughter their Middle East enemies by the millions.

    • Replies: @Druid
  175. @Sam Shama

    The big misunderstanding.
    Holland became rich by trading and transport between the north, especially the Baltic, and the south, Portugal, Spain and France.
    Grain, wood, wine, things like that were transported and traded.
    The VOC, the far eastern company, hardly ever made any profit.
    The voyages were murderous, a ship left with 300 men, and returned with a 100.
    If the West Indische Compagnie did much better, I doubt it.
    Parts of the registers of the Sont, where the Danes exacted toll, still exist.
    The Sont is the narrow passage between Sweden and Denmark, one must pass it when going from the North Sea to the Baltic.
    Most of the ships were Dutch.
    Of course, the far eastern trade was spectacular, spices, porcellain.
    But in value, not.
    There is much talk about profitable slave trade, yet the book
    Robert Harms, Das Sklavenschiff, Eine Reise in die Welt des Sklavenhandels’, München 2007 (The Diligent, New York, 2001)
    could be written because the court records of a French slave ship Diligent, what left from N France, on its voyage from France, then to w Africa, with slaves to the Caribbean, then back via ports on the USA east coast, then France, hardly made a profit.
    The owners sued the captain.
    In the 19th century Liverpool is said to have been the slave trade town, that is, the slave ship owners lived there.
    Japan, very limited trade with Holland.
    An idea how relatively unimportant the far eastern spice trade was may be understood from that pepper was sold per single small ball.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  176. RobinG says:
    @RobinG

    Inside story of Amazon de-listing [for 2nd time] Alex Krainer’s book – at the behest of Browder’s [REAL] attorney -

    Amazon.com burns my book: you should know about this !

    https://thenakedhedgie.com/2017/09/22/amazon-com-burns-my-book-and-you-need-to-know-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-740

    Now republished as “GRAND DECEPTION: THE BROWDER HOAX”

    “My book, published only last month (August 2017), was starting to get some traction and in its first four weeks gained very positive reviews from readers (seven 5-star reviews and one 4-star review and no reviews less than 4 stars). That’s when Browder’s legal counsel Jonathan M. Winer stepped in. He contacted CreateSpace and demanded that my book be delisted alleging that it contained defamatory content. CreateSpace promptly obliged…”

  177. @Wally

    Where do I imply murder ?
    Anne Frank died of typhoid.
    I explained here several times that the camps had self management, that ate quite well, the others, Rassinier estimates them at 75%, died after six months through under nourishment, or of illnesses connected therewith.
    Read Elie Wiesel’s first book, La Nuit, and see the confirmation.
    The camp management always was in excellent health.
    This is one of the holocaust problems, it cannot be admitted that the self management was responsible, to a large extent, for the deaths.
    Kogon, who was one of the first to be sent to a camp, 1938, left in 1945 in good health.
    Attentive reading of his book makes it clear that he was part of the camp management.
    The camp situation did not differ from the Warsaw ghetto situation, that Poliakov describes, there also, those who managed the ghetto, lived literally as kings.
    Jews without connections died of hunger there.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Wally
    , @j2
  178. Calling Wally! I hope yer still lurking, er, contributing. If so, I have a message and request for you.

    You are urgently needed for a “genius” grade response to AJM’s anti-German hate speech (comment #9) over at P Buchanan’s article linked here:

    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/americas-lengthening-enemies-list/#comment-2464544

    Vielen dank! (That’s German for “many thanks” in case some non geniuses are reading.)

    • Replies: @Wally
  179. Sam Shama says:
    @renfro

    Silence is consent.

    How many Jews don’t condemn Germans, Poles, all of Europe collectively for Jewish WWII deaths?

    You are wrong on both counts. There’s more than ample denouncement of hard-line Likud from Jews than anyone else. Ever read Ha’Aretz? Or the NY Times? Here is a small sample from NYTimes’ Tom Friedman [who I consider a bit of a muggle really, but that's beside the point]:

    https://www.haaretz.com/tom-friedman-read-ari-shavit-s-book-1.5291341

    Here’s Fox condemning TF:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/19/what-tom-friedmans-scurrilous-attack-on-israel-tells-us.html

    It’s mostly Jews decrying Likud policies on the MSM and elsewhere. One might ask what have you done as a gentile to render concreteness to your grievances?

    It is perhaps in the nature of man to condemn entire ethnic groups for wrongs committed by a subset during a specific time in history. Memories of atrocities committed by warring neighbours linger for generations till they turn into legend and then myth. Why do Russians dislike Germans?French the English, Koreans the Japanese? etc. Still, I cannot speak for all Jews but I suspect most Jews today do not hate Germans at all, only the Nazis. Some with a vivid experience of the time [I have personal family knowledge] choose to look at it as an aberration.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Colin Wright
  180. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    White Nationalism apologists.

    from an unapologetic Zionist

    just remember Sam, white nationalists today are exactly like Palestinian nationalists

    they’re simply trying to protect whatever lands they have left from the encroachments of your Satanic tribe of Jewish supremacists and loathsome Zionist apologists.

    Do you know of any “white nationalists” who shoot children from rooftops because they’re actively trying to murder them off in order to steal their lands?

    Eh Sam?

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @tac
  181. Sam Shama says:
    @renfro

    Are you really that blind and deluded to miss entirely the direction in which American public opinion on the ME is moving? Trump’s policies are quite agreeable as far as the median American is concerned.

    • Replies: @renfro
  182. RobinG says:
    @renfro

    The number of Americans ‘woke’ on Israel is astounding…

    Do you have a source for this, an independent survey perhaps? And if so, it would be instructive to know how the survey was worded.

    Or, OTOH, is this just the view from inside the bubble? For example, I’d like to be able to say how many voted for Trump b/c of his non-intervention, no new wars, campaigning. But, for all I know, it’s just a handful of Unz commenters. And now, of course, he’s leveling sanctions that are actually acts of war.

    • Replies: @renfro
  183. Ban dual citizensfrom govt! Russia did. Force all Israeli/foreign lobbies to register under FARA. End foreign campaign contributions. Reverse Citizens United. Stop voting for Israel loving cucks!If they’re pro-Israel don’t vote, period.
    This would be a good start…….

    The Talmud said Jesus was, along with Balaam and Titus, one of the three greatest enemies of Judaism (Gittin 56b-57a). The New Testament confirms that the Pharisees considered Christ demon-possessed (John 8:48), a charlatan empowered by the devil (Matt. 12:24), a deceiver (Matt. 27:6), a blasphemer (Jn. 10:36), and having an unclean spirit (Mk. 3:30). The Talmud says He was a bastard, son of adulterous Mary (Sanhedrin 106b). He was hung on the eve of Passover because He was a sorcerer and apostate (Sanh. 43a). He was a fool who fell down and worshipped a brick (Sanh. 67a). He was executed by stoning, burning, decapitation, and strangling (Sanh. x.2:90a). Jews are encouraged to lecture against Christ (Sanh. 106b). Christ is in hell, wallowing in boiling hot excrement (Git. 56b-57a).

    The Talmud recommends persecution of Christians. Christians are heretics (Abodah Zarah 16b), apostates (Shabbethai 116). Christians may be legally thrown into a pit to die (AZ, 26b). Christians deserve death for observing the Sabbath (even though they observe the Noahide laws) (Sanh. 58b) and studying the Old Testament (Sanh. 59a). Christianity is an unforgivable sin, seducing Jews to idolatry (AZ 17a). The testimony of a Christian is unworthy to be admitted to a Jewish court (Shulshan Aruk, Hoshen Mishpat 34,31). Jews are forbidden to return a lost article to a Christian (HM 266,2). Matthew, Luke, Nicodemus, and Thaddeus were executed as heretics ( Jewish Encyclopedia, “Jesus,” page 171). Jews should rejoice, dress in white, and eat, drink, and be merry at the death of a Christian. They should hate a Christian with utmost hatred and consider him an enemy (Semahot ch. 2, p. 35).

    The Zohar sanctions killing of Gentiles, including Christians. “Take the life of the Kliphoth [Gentile and Christian] and kill them, and you will please God the same as one who offers incense to Him.” (Sephar or Israel 177b) “The people of the earth are idolaters, and it has been written of them, ‘Let them be wiped off the face of the earth.’” (I 25, Pranaitis translation, “The Talmud Unmasked,” p. 80) “When these shall be exterminated, it will be as if God had made heaven and earth on that day.” (I, Bereshith, 25b) “At the moment when the Holy One, blessed be he, will exterminate all the goyim of the world.the Lord alone will appear great on that day.” (Sec. Vayschlah, folio 177b, de Pauly translation) “It is certain our captivity will last until the princes of the Gentiles who worship idols are destroyed.” (I, 219, Pranaitis, p. 80) “In the palaces of the fourth heaven are those who lamented over Sion and Jerusalem, and all those who destroyed idolatrous nations, and those who killed off people who worship idols” (I, 38b, 39a)

    The preface to the Soncino edition of the Zohar says: “The Zohar appeals to many Jews in a way that makes them regard it as the most sacred of sacred books! For it mirrors Judaism as an intensely vital religion of the spirit. More overpoweringly than any other book or code, or even than the Bible, does it give to the Jew a conviction of an inner, unseen spiritual universe – an eternal moral order.” ( p.12)

  184. @Anonymous

    Haaretz, a liberal Jewish newspaper, once had an article titles something similar to “The Iraq War Would Not Have Happened Except for these 25 People

    Is this what yer referring to?

    White Man’s Burden

    The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible. But another journalist, Thomas Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4764706

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4764706

  185. TKK says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Israel was founded in 1948.

    WW1 ended in 1918.
    WW2 ended in 1945.

    It’s such a bummer when facts elbow out lunatic conspiracy theories.

    Giraldi and anyone who believes this drivel remind me of an alcoholic has been contender at a bar, rehashing a break up or a failure over and over. No one wants to hear it anymore- but she can’t let go of her obsession.

    Israel is a democracy in a Sea of Muslim barbaric knuckledraggers. Israel’s restraint when dealing with the murderous Palestinians is legendary.

    Why hasn’t any Arab nation thrown open the doors and taking in these poor pitiful Palestinians? Perhaps because they are terrorist: who encourage young boys to blow themselves up. Even their mothers encourage them to do so so they can get their pay out from Hamas.
    Who have 15 children they cannot feed.
    Who spy on their neighbors. Where grown man sleep all day, refuse to work, and beat their wives for the smallest infractions.

    And just another insight for the idiots that post here: just because someone has a different opinion than you does not make them a troll. You are worse than fourth grade little girls tattling.

  186. bj says:
    @Anon

    “This special relationship is a form of worship.”

    Absolutely!

    Jews control the money,

    Jews control the law,

    Jews control the media,

    The Holocaust is Jesus Christ,

    Sacrificed for your sin.

    Amen!

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-throne-and-the-altar/

  187. @MarkU

    It is because bankers really rule the world. It is because so many of the worlds most powerful bankers are Jewish that Israel is so powerful. It is also why the world seems to be perpetually at war, bankers make money by charging interest on loans [often to all sides in a war]. it is in the interest of bankers to get countries into debt and there is no better way to get countries to borrow money than to get them into a war.

    Uh-oh, you must think debt may not be so good. Sam, (the Divine) Shama all around genius, and his sidekick, Paul (The Mouth) Krugman ain’t gonna like dat! Anyway, I don’t find your proposition (aka debt slavery) to be so hard to understand at all, but apparently we and our ilk are deluded.

    Maybe you and I oughtta “study” this “brilliant” piece of work, as recommended by our resident sage.” ;)

    Debt is Good, Paul Krugman, NYT Aug. 21, 2015

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @jacques sheete
  188. Ibn Issam says:
    @Colin Wright

    It is interesting to me that the modern scholarship in the field of historical Biblical textual criticism has inadvertently confirmed that the Qur’an is accurate in its assessment of early Christianity, and Judaism. Islamic theology is remarkable in it’s congruence with pure Abrahamic Monotheism as well as with the core teachings of Jesus (sans innovated Trinitarian dogma). If the early origins of Islam were indeed simply just an uninspired Muhammad (sws) trying to make sense of a complicated, confusing “mish mash” of various texts and beliefs, then the Qur’an would have gotten more wrong than right. However, the fact that it is the exact opposite reaffirms my sincere belief that Muhammad truly did receive an legitimate divine revelation which clarified the previous divine messages, and built further upon them.

  189. Sam Shama says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Please spare me the research contributions; I can produce a few books and papers on this subject as well. Suffice it to say that four hundred to one thousand per cent profits for many generations, unflinching application of Dutch rule over her colonial subjects is not a matter you can blithely wave away as inconsequential to Dutch wealth. Indonesia alone produced 10% of the global oil and Royal Dutch Shell had cornered 90% of that, to say nothing of 95% of global quinine supply, 50% of global tobacco, 20% of tea and tin, 84% of pepper, etc. And we haven’t even begun to talk about the surplus value of labour over the few centuries. Give it a rest.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jilles dykstra
  190. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    JS, you aren’t trying to engage me objectively, merely attempting to flog your dead-horse of a faith. Its been a whole decade since the great recession and here’s an article you should find useful. Follow the links too, if you are serious.

    https://theweek.com/articles/789956/biggest-policy-mistake-last-decade?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  191. Ibn Issam says:
    @TKK

    Planning for the establishment of state of Israel began long before 1948, and can be traced to the pre WWI era. In fact Theodore Herzl wrote “The Jewish State” in 1896. Yes, facts.

    Israel is a democracy…

    LOL!!!

    Israel’s Restraint….

    Really!?!?! LOL!!

  192. renfro says:

    It might take a while, but the ruthless way Israel openly operates with no concern for anyone but itself provides a measure of optimism that that day is surely coming.

    Yes that day will come ….along with immense damage to the US as Israel goes down.

    Phil should explain to you, if he understands and he should by now, that the only way to get rid of Israel is by getting the US politicians first..

    If you don’t castrate the politicians first then you can’t get to the Jewish Fifth Column and Israel because the politicians will protect them.

    While articles like this are good for info and stirring passions—-they are useless unless followed up by actions like publically naming the individual traitors in congress and organized protest against them individually and personally confronting them thru your right to contact your congressman and senator and give your opinion of them on their allegiance to Israel straight to them .

    So unless you are willing to do this you aren’t serious about ridding the US of Israel and the Zionist.

    Traitor trumps anti semite as a accusation on politicians every day of the week, always has, always will.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Colin Wright
  193. Rurik says:
    @TKK

    Israel was founded in 1948.

    WW1 ended in 1918.

    WWI ended in 1918 with the betrayal and enslavement of Germany because America went to war against Germany due to the treachery of American Jewish Zionists, all laid out by Benjamin Freedman long ago.

    Just read about the the Balfour Declaration, and you’ll see all you need to know about how America was dragged into the war on behalf of Jewish supremacist lies and yes, treachery – their calling card.

    Just like today, as the blood and treasure of my nation is dashed on the rocks of eternal wars for that ‘shitty little state’.

    Israel’s restraint

    I just posted a video of Israel’s vaunted ‘restraint’, as IDF cowards shoot children (from a safe distance!) using sniper rifles. With the bullets no doubt paid for with my tax dollars.

    Even these dangerous Hamas terrorists

    were murdered with the use of a drone, so as to minimize any potential harm to a brave IDF soldier

    https://theintercept.com/2018/08/11/israel-palestine-drone-strike-operation-protective-edge/

  194. renfro says:
    @RobinG

    Do you have a source for this, an independent survey perhaps? And if so, it would be instructive to know how the survey was worded.

    You can go back thru my archives for various polls , recommend the WPOP as the most accurate …I’m not going to waste time doing it for you because you would likely dispute the results anyway.

  195. Sam Shama says:
    @Talha

    My point was that the prophetic tradition according to Islam predates and subsumes the prophetic tradition in Bani Israel, but is not exclusive to the Semites. Basically God has been sending prophets to everyone since the beginning of time and their message keeps getting passed down with core truths,

    You can certainly claim that it predates all Judaism and perhaps it does. I could claim that Humanity, whatever that is, predates everything. So what? Each episodic record of Humanity is rather peppered with disagreeable things.

    In my reading, Islam is disturbing for one simple reason which is that it claims the last word. All thought, debate and improvement rendered null and void. You can as I’m sure you do, argue from some Sufi traditions but that is not the Islam practised everywhere. In that regard, Judaism’s texts constitute a brutally honest log of man’s thoughts, actions, and persuasions, no warts spared [Ron Unz focuses exclusively on these distant warts of history and then some illusions, as a passing experiment on his readership no doubt]. Judaism is not, therefore, conducive for the average person to adopt as their religion; for they would not be able to engage with a discerning eye.

  196. Anonymous[753] • Disclaimer says:

    Amazing article. Thank you Mr. Giraldi:

    Noam Chomsky, iconic progressive intellectual, has finally come around on the issue of Israel and what it means. He has always argued somewhat incoherently that Israeli misbehavior has been due to its role as a tool of American imperialism and capitalism. At age 89, he has finally figured out that it is actually all about what a parasitic Israel wants without any regard for its American host

    Amazing:

    Cohen’s performance is instructive. A man shows up in Israeli uniform, claims to be a terrorism expert or even a Mossad agent, and he gains access to powerful Americans who are willing to do anything he says.

  197. Now chew on this a little, and imagine the possibilities with this sort of power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca-C3voZwpM&feature=youtu.be

  198. Incitatus says:
    @utu

    “It is very telling about the human material on the right in America. Complete morons…”

    Those who fell into Cohen’s trap, yes. How many didn’t? Don’t hold your breath for his answer.

    “Israelis play Americans anyway they want on all levels…”

    Every country plays Americans “anyway they want on all levels”. Some of it works, some doesn’t.

    Don’t care for AIPAC (foreign lobbyist) and Israeli Likud shenanigans (criminal in several respects). Don’t think we should give Israel free weapons (the implicit message is to use them first, not last). Is the gift due to AIPAC or the US defense lobby? We give Israel $3.8 billion/yr. The US MIC consumes $720+ billion/yr. The latter includes most of what’s given Israel (0.53%). Doesn’t make it right, of course. Bear in mind we’re building two nuclear submarines (2x$3+ billion) per year. Etc.

    America lobbies countries. And worse. Ask Giraldi what his former employer was doing in Iran in ‘53, Guatemala ’54, Bay of Pigs ’61, Nicaragua, Columbia, etc. Presumably before Giraldi’s time. But did it deter him from joining and collecting a paycheck? What about Iraq 1990-91, 2003? Tenant’s WMD “Slam Dunk”?

    The best part? What the CIA missed. Fall of the USSR? Bin Laden? African Embassy terrorist attacks? The USS Cole? 9/11? We don’t even know the ‘Black Budget’ amount, let alone what it’s spent on. NSA eves-dropping is a joke (they collect everything). Any Giraldi comments on that?

    It’d be surprising if Israel (and other countries) didn’t suspect a terrorist attack in September 2001. The CIA certainly did, if one believes the “hair-on-fire” warnings related on many occasions (before 9/11/01) to GWB, Dick Cheney, and the rest. All highly publicized (e.g. the 6 Aug 2001 PDB). Yet only Israel seems to interest Giraldi. Don’t get me wrong. I’ve no affection for Israel. But why is it alone the white whale? To distract from others? I’d love to read Phil’s assessment of CIA culpability. Just as I’d like to read Ron Unz’s American Pravda on the 2007-08 mortgage melt-down (including Moodys rating junk as AAA). Not holding my breath.

    “At best American are annoying losers who part with their money quickly.”

    Erdogan couldn’t have said it better. Careful you don’t fall into the same honey trap.

    “Mr. Giraldi, why do you bother with your articles? You still have illusions that you can educate the monkeys?”

    That’s easy. He’s found a new niche: his very own “501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.” The “monkeys” gave him a subsidy to opine heart’s content. Just like AIPAC, AEI, and Richard Gage’s ae911truth and other ‘truth-tellers’.

    Sweet deal! “Educational”? Does it (they) hold regular classes and grant degrees? Or are they just lobbyists? With views that merit a tax exemption? Asked my accountant, couldn’t get the same deal. But now you mention it, why not try a new venture, ‘Simians United’ a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation dedicated to destroying all other 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundations?

    Thanks utu.

  199. renfro says:
    @Sam Shama

    Play it again Sham…….same old tune, same old fail.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  200. Rurik says:
    @renfro

    While articles like this are good for info and stirring passions—-they are useless unless followed up by actions

    One thing you have to give to ‘the Jews’, is that they put their money where their perceived interests are. If we American (and even decent people globally) were serious about ending the Eternal Wars and restoring a semblance of sanity to America’s foreign (and domestic) policies, we shower guys like this with campaign donations.

    http://www.electnehlen.com/

    You can be certain his opponent is going to get loads of lucre from Sheldon and the rest of the (((gang))).

    Principled politicians are such a rare gem, we should do all we can to put them into office. Especially since he’d be taking the place of one of our most execrable traitors extraordinaire; cuck-Paul Ryan. And the symbolism of a genuine American patriot taking the place of a traitor would be delectable.

  201. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    Judaism is not, therefore, conducive for the average person to adopt as their religion; for they would not be able to engage with a discerning eye.

    You see Talha, us dumb goyim are just, well.. too dumb.

    IOW we’re not congenitally given to treachery, guile and deceit.

    We’re not sufficiently murderous, larcenous, duplicitous or mean-spirited.

    We just don’t have that “discerning eye’

  202. Talha says:
    @Sam Shama

    So what?

    Nothing really – I was simply clarifying a point. It is after all a claim. Remember, I said I didn’t want to debate the claim, simply clarify it.

    it claims the last word

    That it does. This again is a claim – part of the package. If one believes God would not simply stop sending revelation at a given point in history, then this is not the religion for you. This is actually why Ahmadiyyahs aren’t Muslims.

    All thought, debate and improvement rendered null and void.

    Maybe you have a point with “improvement”, but Muslim scholars thought and debated all the time to try to figure out what exactly God wanted from us – and they still do. One of the best books of exegesis is by Imam Zamakhshari (ra) – a Mu’tazilite ultra-rationalist – whose work was accepted as exemplary while his philosophical conclusions were not.

    Judaism’s texts constitute a brutally honest log of man’s thoughts, actions, and persuasions, no warts spared

    I can certainly see that point based of what I’ve read from it – our disagreements are, at the core, one of an epistemic nature.

    Judaism is not, therefore, conducive for the average person to adopt as their religion

    Which makes sense, it never made any claims to be a universal religion that I can think of. Which is one of the reasons we claim it is abrogated as an earlier dispensation. Again…a claim.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  203. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    Not for nothing there Colin but you wrote “This is our son doing it.” And “We’re responsible.” Point of fact, “we’re” not responsible for anything Israel does. We’re not responsible for anything anyone else does, either. If you’re one of those guys who likes to feel guilt over what other people do, well go for it. Not me.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  204. unseated says:
    @Miggle

    But that doesn’t stop Michael Danby, currently an MP in Australia, from showing much more loyalty to Israel than to Australia or his own party. Last year he took sick (sic) leave while Parliament was in session to attend a meeting in Israel, without telling the Labor Party.

  205. @TKK

    WW1 ended in 1918.
    WW2 ended in 1945.

    Both were merely prolonged battles in a never ending war.

    Try again.

  206. APilgrim says:

    The USA has a large population of Jews whose 1st loyalty is to Israel. Many are dual citizens. Many have served in the IDF, or Mossad. That is historically incompatible, with continued US citizenship, on the basis of divided loyalty.

    There are too many Jews on the Supreme Court, and they have legalized this farce.

    I don’t like it, and intend to end that abuse. That will take some doing.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  207. @gsjackson

    The lack of intellectual self confidence by the goy is a largely unnoticed phenomenon…

    As is the overall obvious mediocrity of the non-goy, which I believe largely accounts for their general overachievement as well as their exaggerations thereof, boasting, and resort to playing the victim card.

  208. @utu

    Don’t Americans see they are being played that all that Israel has is a confidence game and chutzpah?

    Evidently not. In my opinion, they’ve been told they’re “the greatest” for so long and so effectively that they never doubt it for a second and exist in an impervious, smug fog. Most are not even curious enough to think of questioning their own beliefs. It’s the stuff described in many places by the prophets in the OT.

  209. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    Hey Talha,

    it never made any claims to be a universal religion

    that depends..

    If you’re talking about the Jewish (supremacist, old testament) god, then yes, he is universal and he is the only god

    there are no others.

    “Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour” (Isaiah 43:10-11).

    “I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God” (Isaiah 44:6).

    “Is t”O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth” (Isaiah 37:16). here a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any” (Isaiah 44:8).

    blah, blah, blah..

    But if you’re speaking of the dumb goyim, then no, for them there is no god, because they’re of the wrong blood, and are for enslaving or smiting, as the case may be.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  210. @Miggle

    Did I get it wrong somewhere?

    No, you didn’t. And you won’t get much of an answer, if any, from that one, either. Fine comment.

  211. @Sam Shama

    …your ancestral lot chose a simpler and far more direct method, n’est-ce pas? …

    Were his ancestors bankers (usurers, really) who used others to fight for their riches and who got kicked out of Spain and Portugal?

  212. RobinG says:
    @APilgrim

    I don’t like it, and intend to end that abuse.

    Whacha gonna do, Pilgrim? Should Ron be sending your location to the FBI?

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  213. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    Thanks Sam, Jilles the anti American devout Calvinist should remember Jesus’ words “ Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. “

    The first Dutch fortunes were made 100 years before they invaded and conquered Indonesia with Africans to America slave trading and pirates preying on the Spanish and Portuguese treasure ships coming home from America, India Africa and China.

    Maybe that’s why he hates Spain so much, most of the treasure ships made it safely back to Spain despite the Dutch pirates

    He scolds Americans because of slavery but won’t acknowledge it was a Dutch ship that brought the first Africans to Jamestown Va in 1619.

    I wonder why he posts on Unz?

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  214. @jacques sheete

    Sam, just for grins I took the bait but stopped after reading this simple minded scheiss.:

    It helped the U.S. in the Great Depression and it could help the U.S. in the Great Recession too.

    Anyone trying to make a point with such a sappy generalization as that is utterly joke-worthy. You can’t really take that sort of thing seriously, and if you do, I can’t take you seriously either.

    “It helped the US.” Wow. The only thing that’s as ridiculous as that is to state that “debt is good” as if that’s all there is to it. But hey, keep ‘em coming; I appreciate the laughs.

    Argggghhh!

    • Replies: @utu
  215. @Sam Shama

    ‘…You are wrong on both counts. There’s more than ample denouncement of hard-line Likud from Jews than anyone else. Ever read Ha’Aretz? Or the NY Times? Here is a small sample from NYTimes’ Tom Friedman [who I consider a bit of a muggle really, but that's beside the point]…’

    The problem is that all these support Israel — they just want a nicer Israel.

    Likud is the logical consequence of Israel existing at all. You might as well announce it’s horrible that cows are killed — but you still want hamburger.

    In a way, everything that Israel does is perfectly understandable. It all flows from the fundamental nature of the original proposal. You can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs — and you can’t have a racial supremacist invasion without injustice and oppression.

  216. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    Israel is an incredibly corrupt country. In his book Cognitive Capitalism:Human Capital and the Wellbeing of Nations, Heiner Rindermann has this to say on Israel regarding its astonishingly low PISA test scores and relative IQ:

    …reports about the political elite, voted in through democratic elections by the people, frequently mention corruption and violence. Again, every country has corruption and violation of law, but the degree among the elite is different. Some examples (according to official and media reports):

    - Mosche Katzav, former President, was convicted in 2010 of rape, sexual harassment and obstruction of justice.
    - The former Justice Minister Haim Ramon was convicted of indescent conduct and then became vice premier.
    - Ethud Olmert, former Prime Minister, was convicted of bribery, fraud and corruption
    - The former Minister of Finance Avraham Hirschson was convicted of larceny and forgery
    - The former Health Minister Shlomo Benizri was convicted of accepting bribes. For Shlomo Benizri, not only are various different crimes reported, but also irrationality: according to them he blamed earthquakes on Israel’s tolerance for homosexuality
    - The former chief of the Israeli police, Mosche Karadi, resigned due to allegations of involvement with the mafia

    Statistics from Transparency International on corruption corroborate these political observations: while Scandinavian nations are leading in non-corruption, closely followed by British and European countries, Israel comes at rank 37, after Botswana, Emirates and Chile.

    Additionally, international law is frequently violated in the treatment of Palestine and Palestinians; enemies including disabled persons and, as side effects of the violence, families and children are killed, flouting human rights; politicians use hate speech regarding their opponents within and outside the country.

    As already stated, irrational and lawbreaking persons can be found in all countries incl. in governments, but not in this concentration in a free and democratic country.

    Just to add to the list, Netanyahu himself has been indicted for corruption, and his wife was indicted for fraud. Coincidentally (or not), Bernie Sanders’ wife is also under investigation by FBI for bank fraud. It explains why America is increasingly corrupt. The same people are now running this country.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  217. @Incitatus

    Yeah, this Israel-runs-the-country business is a rich from a CIA guy. How do you think those dancing Schlomos and mad bombers got spirited out of the country? How come they didn’t get the shit beat out of them in Rikers Island and get sent to get slowly asphyxiated to death at Camp No? They got exfiltrated under eyes-only intelligence liaison arrangements with CIA, of course.

    Giraldi as a PhD presumably worked for the boy scouts of DI, not the DO torture cowards. CIA trots out DI analysts to warn about what DO is doing, so CIA can mope around ruefully going, “Gee, we tried to tell them, but they didn’t listen.” So the residual indoctrination lets Giraldi sincerely feel his fine outfit is a victim of sinister Israelis, instead of a criminal enterprise that runs Israeli genocidaires as illegal domestic agents.

    If CIA criminals did not have impunity for murder, torture, and crimes against peace, it would be a lot harder for Israel to suck up to them and prey on the country.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  218. @Rich

    ‘…If you’re one of those guys who likes to feel guilt over what other people do, well go for it. Not me.’

    I’m all for not feeling guilt — just as soon as we pull the plug.

    Right now, we fund Israel, arm Israel, and protect Israel from the consequences of her actions — yet you would deny any responsibility for her behavior.

    Both morally and logically, that’s pathetic.

    • Replies: @Rich
  219. renfro says:
    @Sam Shama

    Judaism is not, therefore, conducive for the average person to adopt as their religion; for they would not be able to engage with a discerning eye.

    Poor Sham…..I am afraid it is the Jews who are not able to discern that their under estimation of others discerning abilities is what has gotten them ejected from countries or slaughtered by discerning others in every century.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  220. Anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The closest the yids ever got to actually being holocaust-ed was when a secular Arab leader managed to advance across the Sinai and bloody the nose of the IDF with a combination of Sagger and SA-6 missiles. Obviously the hardworking jews of the Mossad would have no reason to want to depose the man who seemed most likely to recreate Sadat’s success…

    The fact the same thing was repeated, for the same reasons in Libya and then Syria are surely coincidences! Pay no attention to the jew behind the curtain!

  221. Sam Shama says:
    @renfro

    Jump and croak again, renfrog.

  222. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    You said:

    “The camp management always was in excellent health.”

    No it wasn’t. German personnel died aplenty of typhus & other diseases like the labor force did; as did Allied personnel throughout Europe.

    You simply do not know about the subjects you presume to discuss.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  223. @Sam Shama

    ‘…In my reading, Islam is disturbing for one simple reason which is that it claims the last word. All thought, debate and improvement rendered null and void. You can as I’m sure you do, argue from some Sufi traditions but that is not the Islam practised everywhere…’

    Oh honestly. All Abrahmanic religions do that. Why do you think the Pharisees did in Jesus?

    In historical times, the Orthodox Jewish establishments of Eastern Europe were notoriously repressive, the Catholic Church hunted out heretics and burnt them at the stake, and today’s Evangelicals are hardly known for being broad-minded.

    They ALL claim the last word. So what?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  224. Sam Shama says:
    @renfro

    Poor Sham…..I am afraid it is the Jews who are not able to discern..

    That is your bubble-gum history. Yet in every country we’ve called home, in every generation, over and through the depredations which tend to accompany the successful, we have flourished and grown. Small men like you are always flushed out, so do be afraid just as you claim, precisely because we are able to discern.

  225. @Sam Shama

    ‘…In that regard, Judaism’s texts constitute a brutally honest log of man’s thoughts, actions, and persuasions, no warts spared [Ron Unz focuses exclusively on these distant warts of history and then some illusions, as a passing experiment on his readership no doubt]. Judaism is not, therefore, conducive for the average person to adopt as their religion; for they would not be able to engage with a discerning eye…’

    This is just a rationalization for the yawning moral and logical problems besetting classical Judaism.

    There’s more than one reason so many Jews ran, not walked, to get out of the shtetl as soon as they could. It’s an intellectual desert. There’s nothing wonderful and transcendent about it at all. Name one anti-Spinoza — one intellectually impressive figure who began his career outside of rabbinical Judaism and moved into it.

    There ain’t no such animal — and for good reason.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Sam Shama
  226. utu says:
    @jacques sheete

    “debt is good”

    It all depends where the money comes from? Who issues the money? And at what interest if any? Under some circumstances debt might be good or even desirable.

  227. APilgrim says:
    @RobinG

    Is the FBI still open?

    They have been having a LOT of turnover lately.

    This year, we are kicking THEIR DOOR.

  228. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hi Jacques:

    I dropped in and said hello.

    I suspect he’ll have little or no response. Asking for proof can flat out silence a guy.

    Best.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  229. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus,
    Great questions to ask PG and indeed to every ‘objective’ reader here. Your parting shot, need I say, was the best. Do count me in as a partner in the proposed ‘Simians United’ 501(c)3 scheme won’t you please?

    Best

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  230. APilgrim says:

    We have several AGITPROP losers on this thread, today.

    Most of them appear to be Muhammadans.

    I think the FBI is dwindling, due to the ongoing dismissals for cause.

  231. @Incitatus

    On P.G.’s motive for publishing what he does, provocateur, InZitatus, wrote: “That’s easy. He’s found a new niche: his very own “501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.”
    … (zZigh) Above, I must keep faith Philip Giraldi denies the existence of InZitatus’s deceptive comments.
    … Selah, don’t even throw swine to the, selah, neo-Richard Perle cons!

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  232. FB says:
    @Colin Wright

    An interesting comment…

    ‘Israel could not have come into being without our support, and could not continue to exist today without our continued moral, economic, diplomatic, and military support…

    We are, in fact, responsible for Israel, and hence responsible for Israel’s crimes. Other people’s teenaged sons may well be out there stealing cars and raping girls. This happens to be our son doing it. We’re responsible…’

    This is exactly true…Israel is the US’s creation, not the other way round…what Mr. Giraldi is arguing, not without merit, is that Israel also unduly influences US policy in the world, particularly the strategic Middle East…but this is a more complicated picture…the US has been perpetuating its economic global empire largely by way of the petrodollar since 1974…having an Israeli pit-bull in the region benefits this empire tremendously…

    But there are other factors also…the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union was fertile soil for the fertile imperialist imaginations of many in Washington…the unipolar world and the global domination that they had been after for 100 years appeared to be within grasp…

    The first Gulf War came at the very moment the USSR was actually falling apart…then came the dismantling of Yugoslavia…something unimaginable while the Soviet Union existed…did Israel get the US to break up Yugoslavia or to bomb it in 1999…?

    Then came 911 and the so-called ‘war on terror’…certainly Israel may have benefitted, but the US was waging regime change in Afghanistan by means of Jihadist proxies back in the 1980s…when Afghanistan under a progressive, socialist government enjoyed its only brief moment as a civilized society where women students could wear short skirts and interact normally with young men, as in any other country…today, after years of Wahabbist indoctrination, all supported by the US, this country is a medieval throwback with no chance at modernity…

    Iraq had been encouraged to invade Iran by guess who, the United States…back in 1980…a war that exhausted Iraq only to see its erstwhile ally and mentor then turn its guns on them in 1991…

    The list is endless…the US has been acting with the mendacity and evil that is typical of plundering empires throughout history…it is also crystal clear that US use of force, post-1991 has simply exploded exponentially…so we can see a clear pattern that it is removal of the counterbalance that was the Soviet Union that precipitated the drastic change in US behavior, much more than anything else…

    Now we are supposed to believe that the US is really a well-meaning giant that is being pulled around the nose by wily Jews…and that US policies are ‘merely stupid, not evil’…

    Sorry but this is bullshit…US policies have been evil for a long time…from the genocide against the Plains Indians…to Hawaii, the Philippines…Korea, Vietnam and down the line…Israel had nothing to do with any of those evil policies…but the lust for power and imperial ambition did…

    This is the problem, the mentality of imperialism…not Israel, which is just taking maximum advantage of what they can get out of the tag team arrangement with the evil empire…

    As for some of those other issues…who do you think that massive immigration serves…?…it serves the vulture capitalist class who seek simply to drive wages of working Americans into the gutter by flooding the US with cheap labor…the well-meaning ordinary folks who are defending the plight of some of the migrants caught up in this evil scheme, have nothing to do with why it exists…it is simply window-dressing for ‘debate’…ie dividing the populace…

    As for global warming, it is not entirely clear to me or anyone with a hard science background, that this is man-created…it may be, but there is also a lot of pseudo-science on display [such as attempts to model accurately the Earth's climate...which anyone who knows anything about mathematical modeling of even much simpler thermodynamic and fluid dynamic problems, is completely absurd...]

    At the same time, things that we do know very well, such as habitat loss for endangered species, is being ignored…why is that…?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @L.K
    , @Rurik
  233. renfro says:
    @Sam Shama

    Are you really that blind and deluded to miss entirely the direction in which American public opinion on the ME is moving?

    You mean the way they are moving on Israel don’t you?

    Here you go….the winds of change

    Episcopal Church divest, votes to refuse profits from Israeli crimes

    Nora Barrows-Friedman The Electronic Intifada Podcast 18 July 2018

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/listen-episcopal-church-votes-refuse-profits-israeli-crimes

    ”The Episcopal Church has formally adopted an investment screen to avoid profiting from human rights abuses against Palestinians.

    The church, which has more than 3 million members in the United States, overwhelmingly passed the measure on 13 July at its general convention in Austin, Texas..

    The resolution “marks a new direction for the Episcopal Church, which now joins nearly a dozen other Christian denominations … which have all taken economic action to avoid being complicit in human rights violations and injustice in the Holy Land,” says the peace fellowship.
    The Episcopal Church is the US branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion.

    Also divested, the Presbyterian Church USA, the United Church of Christ and the United Methodist Church (UMC), The Mennonite Church U.S.A and several Quaker bodies have voted to divest from Israeli and international companies targeted by the BDS movement.
    Theses alone have around 34 million member according to the 2010 US Census.

    The church also adopted resolutions to safeguard the rights of Palestinian children and Palestinians in Gaza, support Palestinian self-determination and to call for continued US aid to Palestinian refugees.

  234. Rurik says:
    @diverticuli

    rich from a CIA guy. How do you think those dancing Schlomos and mad bombers got spirited out of the country?

    they were held and released by the FBI and quietly sent back to Israel at the behest of Israeli dual citizen and Assistant U.S. Attorney General at the time Michael Chertoff.

    The same Israeli citizen that would eventually become head of “Homeland’ Security.

  235. @Anonymouse

    The principle is “Be fruitful and multiply.”

    America feeds hundreds of millions of people and improves the lives of billions. The transfer of land from the pre-Columbians to the Americans (including native Americans) is irreversible and would be immoral if it were possible.

    Whose lives have the Zionists improved?

  236. @Sam Shama

    Maven Sham Shama offered the following heads-up to renfro: “… so do be afraid just as you claim, precisely because we are able to discern.”
    … Uh, Santa

  237. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Hey Rurik,

    As a monotheist, I’m down with the one-and-only-God message. ;)

    However, religion is both an amalgam of belief and practice. Judaism is often criticized by people looking at it through a lens of a universalist religion, but it isn’t nor has it claimed itself to be other than what it is; a religion custom-tailored for the Jewish people. In that sense, it is what one would expect – I certainly don’t detect any false advertising when one keeps that in mind.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  238. It all depends where the money comes from? Who issues the money? And at what interest if any?

    It also depends on other factors such as how the debt is used, who pays preferred rates of interest, etc, etc., but he didn’t say that. He only said, initially, that debt is good, and for “proof”, we should study the blowhard, Krumgman. Only somewhat later did he claim he never said it and after I pointed out some of the variables, such as the differences between public and private debt, that he admitted the statement needed some qualification.

    Under some circumstances debt might be good or even desirable.

    That’s an obvious given and you are preaching to the choir, but again, he just made the bald statement that debt is good, just like Krugman’s headline.

    On another note, he’s been admirably civil so far on this thread, but typically it doesn’t take too long before the type reverts to form, i.e., mocking, preaching, boasting and in general trying to defend the indefensible.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  239. @Colin Wright

    There’s more than one reason so many Jews ran, not walked, to get out of the shtetl as soon as they could.

    Heck, many plotted, schemed and clawed their way out as well. And it’s not only an intellectual desert but a moral desert too. A variety of primitive cults, in fact. A lot of them know that only too well which may account for the fact that they’re constantly trying to convince themselves they’re better than the rest of us.

  240. geokat62 says:

    And no, Geokat, Power isn’t listening to Phil over the sound of crickets for the simple reason that Power does not read the UR, couldn’t care less if they did…

    Don’t kid yourself, Sam. The Lobby is all over the Unz Review, in general… and Phil’s articles, in particular. Don’t you recall the fallout when Valerie Plame tweeted her endorsement of Phil’s provocatively entitled article, America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars? As you know, the tag team of the ADL and the SPLC, the modern-day Gestapo, are working round the clock to censor what they falsely claim are “white nationalists” or “white supremacists” – i.e., people who simply refuse to go “quietly into the night.”

    A good example of this is the recent de-platforming of Alex Jones’ Info Wars by Facebook, Apple, Google, and Spotify. Another example is their hounding of former CA congressional candidate, Patrick Little. After being banned from Twitter, he tried setting up shop on the “Free Speech” alternative social media platform, Gab. Well, after posting a couple of admittedly provocative comments, Microsoft threatened to shut down Gab, if Little didn’t agree to delete his two offending posts, which is what he ended up doing. And what has the ADL, the premiere division of the Gestapo, devised to counter the growth of dissenting voices? Well, they have recently developed what Brittan Heller, Director ADL Center for Technology and Society, dubbed The Online Hate Index:

    No, Sam, the Power is definitely listening to Phil and other “haters” like him. In fact, the ADL and SPLC are quietly compiling lists of these “haters” and urging Congress to pass laws the criminalize hate speech such that one day all these so-called “haters” can be shipped off to Guantanamo in orange jump suits to repent for their sins, just as the millions of Russians had to do before them. These ethnic Russians were sent off to the Gulag (the Soviet forced labor camp system that was created under Vladimir Lenin and reached its peak during Joseph Stalin’s rule from the 1930s to the 1950s) for the crime of being goys and, therefore, latent antisemites.

    No, it looks like the Gestapo is back, and it won’t be content until all these “fascists”:

    are locked up for good and replaced by these non-haters:

    All thanks to the leading members of the Frankfurt School and the AJC, who collaborated during post WWII period to introduce changes to school curricula across the country that ensured this transformation came to fruition.

    Now that’s Power with a capital P… and it’s listening very attentively.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  241. @Sam Shama

    Yet in every country we’ve called home, in every generation, over and through the depredations which tend to accompany the successful, we have flourished and grown.

    And don’t forget to include Germany, even Nazi Germany where many flourished as well (cf Douglas Reed, “The Controversy of Zion). And there you go again, claiming, “we have flourished and grown;” another one of your unqualified statements. Have you always flourished and grown by fair means? And how do you explain the continuous lying about being poysekyooted ‘n stuff?

    Why the continuous harping on how poorly you’ve been treated? Which izzit?

    Cringeworthy: “…depredations which tend to accompany the successful…” that oughta be good for a Poolitzer Pwize er sumpin, but on the other hand maybe not, because the “successful” are often the ones doing the depredations in case you hadn’t noticed.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  242. renfro says:
    @Sam Shama

    Yet in every country we’ve called home, in every generation, over and through the depredations which tend to accompany the successful, we have flourished and grown. Small men like you are always flushed out, so do be afraid just as you claim, precisely because we are able to discern

    Really?…..doesn’t look like it….you are still as you have always been, dependent on the good graces of the Others, this time the Americans.
    Without our money and protection you couldn’t exist as anything but what you always were—half Court Jews, Half Beggar Jews…..and always parasites.

    lol.. we small men?…we will still be on earth long after you are gone.

    7 billion Non Jews in the universe – 12 million Jews…..you are just not smart.

    • LOL: L.K
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  243. @Colin Wright

    They ALL claim the last word.

    Or at least the Supreme authority. Sam (the divine) Shama’s comments could be exhibit “A” for that claim.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  244. chris says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t have a source for it either, but Scott Horton has said this a number of times when discussing the incident. He confirmed exactly what Felicity said and added that that was the reason why Reagan subsequently pulled the troops out.

    I have to assume that since there was no push-back on his statement, he is basing his assertion on testimony from someone he had talked to; as is the case with everything else he’s ever said.

    Given her direct connection to the treason, maybe Felicity could actually ask Scott for his reference.

  245. Sam Shama says:
    @Colin Wright

    On your #227 and #228, you must forgive me, but I am not at the moment looking to start an expansive discussion on the merits and demerits of rabbinical Judaism.

    I’ll only mention you are wrong insofar as Judaism does not claim the last word on any subject which involves human involvement. Even G’d is clearly seen to be experimenting. But again, I wish to set aside any present-day arguments meant to somehow erect a rationalisation for specific practices and beliefs of the yesteryear.

    As to the charge of a total lack of morality and logic: they do not usually pair too well. A great deal of so-called morality is little more than armchair masturbation. So there is that if it pleases you.

    “wonderful, transcendent” whatever – claims I did not make on behalf of Judaism – I might observe that you’ve thrown rather a whole hog, you know, of the mystical and poetic paraphernalia. I’ll think about it over a nice bottle of scotch someday.

    How extensively have you read the Mishnah and Gemara [the Talmud loosely speaking]? I only ask since you mention the lack of logic. A good fifty per cent of the Mishnah and the Gemara, I’d say, deals with some version of legal, homiletical and transactional logic.

    I never claimed Jews did not embrace the Enlightenment. They most certainly did. You might find listening to, and, reading the works of Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks interesting. (http://rabbisacks.org/ ]

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  246. @Ben_C

    Rand is truly useless.

    • Replies: @chris
  247. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    I deny responsibility for anyone’s actions other than my own. I certainly take zero responsibility for the actions of the US government, let alone the actions of a foreign government. When the American people finally come to their senses and choose me as Emperor, then I’ll take responsibility for the actions of my government. If I vote for a candidate who is the lesser of two evils, or a third party, or I don’t vote at all, how am I responsible for the actions of whatever bum got elected? If it were up to me, I’d go the Ron Paul route when it comes to foreign affairs, but it ain’t up to me.

    As for Israel’s actions, that area of the world is deeply troubled. Whether or not it was right to take the land away from the Arabs, it’s a done deal now. The Israelis are going to do whatever they feel is necessary to keep that patch of desert and I’d say the Palestinians, and other Arabs, would be wise to make as good a deal with them as they can. But, again, it’s up to them, I haven’t been asked for any advice on their wars, or negotiations.

  248. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Off Topic There’s a new movie coming out soon. It’s another Jewish heroes kidnapped Eichmann and had a show trial. It’s title is Operation Finale.

    We should set up a betting pool about how many Oscar nominations it will get.

  249. @Rurik

    Even the crudest Nazi caricature or propaganda would pale compared to Chertoff.

  250. @anarchyst

    Indeed, it was like watching the politburo applaud Stalin in the 30’s, no one dares stop first.

  251. @Druid

    Like they say, anti-Semitism is a disease, you catch it from Jews.

    • Replies: @L.K
  252. Sam Shama says:
    @renfro

    we will still be on earth long after you are gone.

    7 billion Non Jews in the universe – 12 million Jews…..you are just not smart.

    How can you be so sure since according to the accounts of your fellow toadies isn’t the US getting Judaised? ‘Without our money and protection”, dear frog, you sound positively like the cosa nostra!

    • Replies: @renfro
  253. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    You have a point. The successful indeed tend to do the poyseekyooshun. And we’ve always succeeded through unfair means. Satisfied?

  254. Patricus says:
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous[570], you are raving. Jerusalem is not the Ruler of the US. Israel has a GDP per capita about equivalent to Spains. Not so bad for a country starting with practically nothing but not a world beater. The population is roughly 8 million. America’s is 320 million.

    Many Americans sympathize with Israel because of the holocaust. The country does have rule by laws for the most part. There is representative government. Not the greatest place on the world map but pretty impressive compared to her neighborhood. The Palestinians were not treated fairly but that’s not the first time weaker peoples were marginalized.

    A little proportionality would be appreciated.

    If the Arabs rise someday they will probably displace Israel. That is a long time coming.

  255. anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:

    It has the right to defend itself

    Say a thief barges into your home and kicks you out, or relegates you to the position of a servant. If you fight back, does the thief have the right to defend himself?

    IsraEvil has no rights over that strip of land. Juden could have chosen to emigrate to Palestine, to be closer to their symbols of faith, but they have no rights over it.

    Of course, current facts on the ground state that, “might makes right”… if only for a “short” duration.

  256. @Wally

    I dropped in and said hello.

    i saw that.

    Vielen danke!

  257. @Sam Shama

    Thanks for commenting, Sam, you truly are amusing.

    A good fifty per cent of the Mishnah and the Gemara, I’d say, deals with some version of legal, homiletical and transactional logic.

    Did someone mention,

    … armchair masturbation?

    :)

  258. @Colin Wright

    I found this, but it doesn’t mention Carter.

    According to former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky, Mossad had specific details from an informant that Hezbollah was loading a truck with explosives for the attack, but Mossad director Nahum Admoni deliberately withheld the information from American intelligence.

    https://listverse.com/2015/11/06/10-controversial-mossad-operations/

  259. anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Western civilization is on a shit slide to hell

    For sure, you meant that in a different context, but given the paganism and godlessness of the Western civilisation, you have no idea how prescient those words will prove to be.

  260. ohmy says:

    Would it be a far stretch of the imagination to think Israel has access to our treasury via their familial connection with our (never audited) Federal Reserve Inc.? And through this special arterial channel is Israel able to siphon as much cash as it needs to buy or bribe any worldly asset it wants; be it corporate or human? Are “we the American tax payer” paying for our own demise? Are we that subjugated?
    I think it’s a distinct possibility we are. This is way beyond corruption.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  261. @FB

    There is more than a grain of truth in what you say.

    In January 2018, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee heard testimony from State Department’s David Satterfield, “acting assistant secretary for Near Eastern Affairs.”

    Satterfield had this exchange with Sen. Ron Johnson:

    Ron Johnson
    I’m looking at your written testimony to confirm what I thought you said, that reconstructing Syria is going to cost somewhere in the order of $200 – $300 billion. Who has that kind of money?

    Satterfield: I can tell you who doesn’t, the Syrian regime, Moscow and Tehran.
    Who does? The international community, companies, international financial institutions. They’ve got the money collectively, but that money is not going to flow into a Syria which has not gone through a political transformation and transition.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?439411-1/foreign-relations-panel-explores-us-policy-post-isis-syria&start=3122

    That was January 2018.

    On July 31, 2018, Thierry Meyssan posted his assessment of the situation in Syria:

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article202215.html

    If we consider the war in Syria not as a singular event, but as the culmination of a world war which has persisted for a quarter of a century, we have to ask ourselves about the consequences of the imminent end of hostilities. Its completion marks the defeat of an ideology, that is to say globalisation and financial capitalism. The people who have not understood this, particularly in Western Europe, are defining their own exclusion from the rest of the world.
    . . .

    World wars do not only end with a winner and a loser. Their termination defines the contours of a new world.

    Meyssan explained that “new structures” are created at the ends of wars: WWI –> League of Nations; WWII –> United Nations. The Cold War “was not WWIII” because its conclusion did not see the creation of new structures. Rather, ‘WWII began in Yugoslavia, ran through Afghanistan, Iraq, Georgia, Libya and Yemen, thence to Syria.

    “It is in the process of drawing to a close since the Putin-Trump Summit in Helsinki.”

    This Yugoslavia-to-Syria WWII

    ” may be described as a confrontation between, on the one hand, a transnational ruling class and, on the other, the governments responsible to their people.”

    Satterfield testified of the interests of the “international ruling class,” and their power to control events by extending – or withholding funds to rebuild a war-devastated nation.

    Meyssan believes Trump and Putin “created a new structure,” or in any event, reversed the international order Satterfield stands for:

    “In Helsinki, it was not the United States which drew up an agreement with the Federation of Russia. It was the White House alone. Because the common enemy is a transnational group which exercises authority in the United States. Since this group considers itself, and not the elected President, to be the representative of the USA, it did not hesitate to immediately accuse President Trump of treason.

    This transnational group has succeeded in making us believe that ideologies are dead and that History is finished. It presents globalisation, in other words Anglo-Saxon domination by way of the extension of the US language and life-style, as the consequence of the technical development of transport and communication. It assures us that a single political system is the ideal for all humanity – democracy (in other words « government of the People, by the People, for the People ») – and that it is possible to impose this ideal by force on all humanity. Finally, it presents the freedom of circulation of people and capitals as the solution to all problems of labour and investment.

    However, these assertions, which we all accept in the course of our daily lives, do not stand up to a minute of thought.

    Behind these lies, the transnational group has systematically worn down the Power of states and amassed fortunes.

    The side which will be the victor of this long war defends, on the contrary, the idea that in order to chose their destiny, people must organise themselves into clearly-defined Nations, based either on a land or else on a common history or project. Consequently, it supports national economies rather than transnational finance.

    Pointing to the World Football Cup contests as an example, Meyssan argues:

    If the ideology of globalisation had won the war, we should have supported not only our national team, but also the teams of other countries according to their membership of our common supra-national structures. For example, the Belgians and the French would have had to support one another mutually by waving the flag of the European Union. But this did not occur to a single supporter.

    Relentless propaganda had not overcome “spontaneous behavior,” Meyssan wrote, and “Despite appearances, the superficial victory of globalism has not modified what we are.”

    Meyssan concludes that Syria was able to resist and overcome “the most gigantic coalition in History — 114 nations” because “Syria, where the idea of a state was first imagined and developed several thousand years ago, . . . benefited from a true state which never stopped functioning.

    Meyssan is optimistic, and I hope he is correct.

    But there’s still the problem of finding $200 – $300 – billion to rebuild Syria.

    So we cycle back to Meyssan’s opening thought: “The people who have not understood this, [ i.e. the power of the Idea of a functioning state vs. the power of international finance] particularly in Western Europe, are defining their own exclusion from the rest of the world.”

    Satterfield’s USA / international corporations are not the only players on the block; the situation is vastly different from the post-WWII era when USA dominated financially, militarily and in the psychological warfare sphere: the rest of the world knows all of those moves and has studied the antidotes.

    Where does Israel, therefore the topic of Giraldi’s essay, figure in?

    Satterfield may or may not be Jewish, but it’s clear that he represents global capitalist ideas, which some, like Jerry Muller, aver were introduced by Jews.
    Whatever.
    Jews/ Israel are not in the driver’s seat regarding Syria, but neither does USA have both cheeks firmly in that well-worn vinyl cushion: Putin is talking about moving away from the dollar; China has been buying gold for several decades and has formed a bank with plans to gain monopoly dependence on US banking institutions and the dollar. Israel has invested in that bank.

    Syria has ancient patience and new-think options.

    Likely as not, Israel will take in its annual remittances from USA and use them to invest in Syria.

    Business is business.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  262. @anonymous

    That looks like a woman to me and (Given the halo, it is likely a depiction of JC and his wife, Mary Magdalene being a good wife to him) if it is, then as Lenny Bruce said, “But Judge, cocksucker is a good thing, not a bad thing” (at his obscenity trial for saying ‘cocksucker).

  263. @Anon

    The wars were funded by the titans of banking, mostly British and American, to overturn the monarchistic power centres of old and deliver them via debt to them. Another commenter mentioned the speech given by Benjamin Freedman and that would be a good place to start. There’s an abundant amount of information confirming this to be found on the web and on this very site. I wish it were not so and I came to the conclusion late. I’ve stated here before that I don’t hate Jews and that there are good and bad amongst all people but it is becoming clearer to me that humanity is being driven of a cliff and all too few are speaking out about it, especially Jews.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @Anon
  264. anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    genital-mutilating

    Keeping aside whatever perceived benefits (see below) may result from this “genital-mutilation,” you have to admit that those intact have the most ugly animal-like appendages, and thus one benefit could be the prettifying of said appendage.

    https://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/guide/circumcision#2

  265. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    To Giraldi, anything that a Jew looks at the Jew causes.

    Barmy.

    His article is riddled with other nonsense. E.g only Israeli politicians come to America and give partisan opinions.

    London Mayor Sadiq Khan went to America to act as a Hillary Clinton campaign surrogate, while serving as London Mayor!

    Does Giraldi care? No Jews, no news.

    Obama funded the Israeli opposition…to Giraldi, it’s a Zionist conspiracy! The Israeli prime-minister speaks back to the Obama administration disfavourably, it’s a Zionist conspiracy!

    As for Giraldi’s long argument about one Sacha Baron Cohen character: fine, but it is rather missing the point.

    In an age where guilt felt towards Muslims can get lifelong feminists to parade around in Islamic modesty dress and journalists can be bullied into opining against anti-black discrimination in 70% black NFL, or anyone brown who illegally crosses the border immediately receives overt racial preferences for historical injustices in America, then most other subjects have gone well beyond satire.

    But, no, it is the Jews and to Giraldi, only the Jews are news.

    At least black anti-white racists seem to actually enjoy being black. It must be thin gruel for Giraldi to be so dominated by his resentment.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  266. anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @Respect

    Belief in the “Rapture” will rupture one’s brain. So yeah, beware. LOL!

  267. renfro says:
    @Sam Shama

    Poor Sham….I am sorry the truth hurts……but you’d get hurt less if you accepted that your Jews are disliked because of what they do and their attitudes……they should keep their greed and jockeying for power strictly among the tribe itself and not branch out to try and control the goy and Arab world ….. if they did that no one would give them any criticism or thought at all…..but they wont , so that means they will fall and go down again.

    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  268. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Whoops. Your sarcasm escaped me. I become horribly earnest when it comes to Israel.

    All deranged fanatics do.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  269. Tyrion 2 says:
    @JessicaR

    2. It has been credibly reported, I believe by Dana Milbanks in the Washington Post, that Jewish donors provide 50% of individual donations to the Democratic party and 35% of donations made to the Republicans.

    Why can’t the other 98% of America be as civically minded?

    Are you?

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  270. Q says:
    @Miggle

    Good question. A whopping 89% of our Senators and Congress members have dual citizenship, many with Israel, but also with Mexico, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Canada, Taiwan etc. We need to pass a new law that bars foreign nationals from running for office in the US, and all those holding dual citizenship should be treated as foreign nationals.

    Also, I remember even up until the 90′s one must be a US citizen to work for any state or federal agency. But these days I’ve come across heavily accented Indians working for the state’s economic development department and other offices. When did we start to allow this? Absolutely preposterous. We need to go back to hiring only US citizens for all state and federal government jobs.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  271. @TKK

    It’s such a bummer when facts elbow out lunatic conspiracy theories.

    It’s such a bummer when liars attempt to whitewash war crimes.

    Giraldi and anyone who believes this drivel remind me of an alcoholic has been contender at a bar, rehashing a break up or a failure over and over. No one wants to hear it anymore- but she can’t let go of her obsession.

    Why am I not surprised by your knowledge about alcoholics, bars and break ups?

    Israel is a democracy in a Sea of Muslim barbaric knuckledraggers. Israel’s restraint when dealing with the murderous Palestinians is legendary.

    This has already been LOL’d by other thoughtful commenters.

    Why hasn’t any Arab nation thrown open the doors and taking in these poor pitiful Palestinians?

    Why don’t you give up your home to the homeless and move somewhere else?

    Perhaps because they are terrorist: who encourage young boys to blow themselves up. Even their mothers encourage them to do so so they can get their pay out from Hamas.

    There is abundant historical information available on who introduced and continues to perpetrate acts of terror in the region. Hint: It is those whom you would attempt to defend.

    Who have 15 children they cannot feed.

    Given the amount of US taxpayer money foreign aid and “loans” to Israel that will never be repaid it is the Israelis that are having children that they cannot afford.

    Who spy on their neighbors. Where grown man sleep all day, refuse to work, and beat their wives for the smallest infractions.

    Who spy on their benefactor allies, degrade the lands of their hosts by usury, the distribution of poisons and pornography.

    And just another insight for the idiots that post here: just because someone has a different opinion than you does not make them a troll. You are worse than fourth grade little girls tattling.

    Nothing insightful at all in your comment. You are the tattling troll so leave the little girls alone.

    • Replies: @Kolo
  272. L.K says:
    @FB

    FB(S), AKA Full of BS

    Israel is the US’s creation, not the other way round…

    I see you are still peddling this deception eh? Even though several people have already taken you to the woodshed over this nonsense and spanked you pretty good.

    Author Alison Weir( Against Our Better Judgement: How the U.S. was used to create Israel, a must read book ) wrote in her article ‘The Real Story of How Israel Was Created’

    https://ifamericaknew.org/history/realstory.html

    The common representation of Israel’s birth is that the UN created Israel, that the world was in favor of this move, and that the US governmental establishment supported it. All these assumptions are demonstrably incorrect.

    Third, the US administration supported the recommendation out of domestic electoral considerations, and took this position over the strenuous objections of the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon.

    FB(S)

    having an Israeli pit-bull in the region benefits this empire tremendously…

    This is yet another one of your lies which has already been shown to be false by several scholars.
    In fact, even from a Zamerican imperialist pov, Israel is a liability.

    FB(S):

    Iraq had been encouraged to invade Iran by guess who, the United States…back in 1980

    That is just part of the story though… why don’t you tell people the rest of it?
    Besides ZUS and its allies, there was that other country and its satellites’ block that backed the Iraqi aggression on Iran… which was it, oh yeah, the Soviet Union…

    In his book ‘Iran at War’, Kaveh Farrokh writes:

    “Diplomatically, Iraq was enjoying excellent relations with the US, the West and the Soviet/Eastern bloc. A key diplomatic shift in Iraq’s favor occurred when Mikhail Gorbachev became the USSR’s last head of state. When elected general secretary of the Communist Party in 1985, Gorbachev had significantly increased Soviet military aid to Iraq. The Soviets had established an air bridge between Moscow and Baghdad, from January 1, 1987, allowing Saddam to safely receive the best Soviet weaponry. These significantly enhanced Iraq’s military advantages over Iran.
    By 1988 Iraq’s 5,500 tanks outnumbered Iran’s machines by more than five to one.3 Although estimates vary, Iraq’s 800–900 fighter aircraft outnumbered Iran’s by a margin of around ten to one by 1988.4 The Americans, notably Richard Murphy, seemed pleased with Gorbachev’s efforts as these supported Iraqi (military) actions, especially during the “Scud Duel” between Tehran and Baghdad in April 1988.5 Iran viewed Gorbachev’s increasingly pro-Iraq position as part of his overall effort to woo the West towards the Soviet Union.6 The Gorbachev administration even softened its stance against the proposed US-sponsored arms embargo against Iran.7
    Eastern Europe was closely involved with Iraq’s military build-up. Czechoslovakia, Poland, and East Germany provided training, technical expertise and specialized engineers.8 Yugoslavia afforded extensive support by provided pilot training, technicians, engineers, refurbishing Iraqi aircraft in Yugoslavia, and built a large number of improved runways, underground facilities, and hardened shelters.9 Western countries, including Belgium, Switzerland, Britain, and Italy, joined the Yugoslavs in building Iraqi “superbases” at a cost of over 4.3 billion dollars. Most of these became operational by late 1987.

    FB(S)

    the US has been acting with the mendacity and evil that is typical of plundering empires throughout history

    This part is true… though I do not recall you, Mr. Stalinist pig, criticizing former Russian/Soviet imperialism… or was theirs ‘benevolent’?

    • Replies: @FB
  273. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Here is where you imply murder:

    We had some 100.000 jews, nearly all were deported, the municipalities registered religion, so it was not difficult. About 5000 returned.”

    So, do you or don’t you believe that 95,000 Jews from Holland were murdered?

    http://www.codoh.com

  274. @Rich

    ‘…As for Israel’s actions, that area of the world is deeply troubled. Whether or not it was right to take the land away from the Arabs, it’s a done deal now. The Israelis are going to do whatever they feel is necessary to keep that patch of desert and I’d say the Palestinians, and other Arabs, would be wise to make as good a deal with them as they can. But, again, it’s up to them, I haven’t been asked for any advice on their wars, or negotiations.’

    Should I bother to take this apart line by line, or can you figure out the problems yourself?

    • Replies: @Rich
  275. @Tyrion 2

    ‘All deranged fanatics do.’

    When argument fails, there’s always personal abuse.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  276. L.K says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Like they say, anti-Semitism is a disease, you catch it from Jews.

    True that. :-)

  277. @Tyrion 2

    ‘…But, no, it is the Jews and to Giraldi, only the Jews are news.

    At least black anti-white racists seem to actually enjoy being black. It must be thin gruel for Giraldi to be so dominated by his resentment.’

    Speaking for myself, the Israeli Herrenvolk could be Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or animist.

    Given their actions, our role in them, the extent to which they manipulate our political process to perpetuate that role, and the byzantine edifice of lies surrounding it all, I would be exactly as outraged as I am now.

    It’s nothing to do with them being Jewish. It really isn’t.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  278. @Sean

    ‘By all means confront Israel if that is your thing, but don’t pretend that there is any possibility of besting them…’

    Sorta like the Klan in the 1920′s, huh?

    • Replies: @Sean
  279. anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    You can wish a pox on anything you want, but you should consider that something similar may be forthcoming on you as well. Your godlessness, or whatever faith you follow, may be sign of it. So, you better be ready for that eventuality too.

    That said, do not make the mistake, even if you don’t give a rat’s behind about it all, of placing Islam in the same basket as Judaism and Christianity. They may share some similarities, but Islam does not share any of the core pagan ideologies of those other faiths… namely human-like “in-his-image” deities.

    Just that very fact, makes Islam and those two combined, as different as the clear day and the unseeing night.

    For the record.

    -

    Btw, White Supremacy has become a religion for many of your (presumably) kind. I say, a pox on the satanic religion of White Supremacy.

    • LOL: SolontoCroesus
  280. @Rich

    Surely if you vote for the lesser of two evils then you are voting for, as in supporting, evil itself?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  281. anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @ISmellBagels
  282. @NoseytheDuke

    I’d like to add that I’ve also stated previously that I think that most of those who self identify as Jews are being played too. William Cooper said it was the secret societies who are really driving the bus and I tend to go along with that. Different groups are played at different times as outlined in The Forth Turning by Strauss and Howe.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  283. Re: “Many in the intelligence and law enforcement communities suspect that it had considerable prior intelligence regarding the 9/11 plot but did not share it with Washington.”

    There was no need to share with Washington. Zionist Washington was integral to the entire criminal false flag operation. Surely you don’t think the neocons were innocent bystanders! Good Lord, are even well-placed Americans really that stupid?

  284. j2 says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “I explained here several times that the camps had self management, that ate quite well, the others, Rassinier estimates them at 75%, died after six months through under nourishment, or of illnesses connected therewith.”

    I once took a calorie calculator from the web, estimated weights of inmates at that time and checked how large were the camp daily portions compared to the calorie need. For those, who did not work, the portions apparently were calculated to be exactly the survival minimum, i.e., the lowest amount of calories that you would not lose weight. Those who worked got a bit more, but not more compared to what they needed. Theoretically this is fine, but not in practice.

    As the calorie amount was derived from the average, it was not enough for all, while for smaller people it would have been enough but they did not get it as they were also weaker. The division of food is often not equal: some (stronger or in management position) take more, some get what is left, such portions lead to starvation of many or most. Undernourished inmates died of diseases much easier than otherwise would have been. Deaths in concentration camps seem to range form 24% to very high figures (e.g. about 75% in some POW camps in the Eastern front) and larger camps had higher death ratios. In a well managed (and not too large) camp it could be 24-28%, while especially in the beginning with many prisoners and mistakes in management, death rate would be much higher and this even without self-management. Self-management would favor one group and not be much or at all better, as the portions were at the minimum for survival.

    Russian war prisoners also intentionally tried to spread typhus to camp guards, they even hid lice to their mouth in order to have a weapon to use against the guards. Andrei Pogozev, Escape from Auschwitz, tells about it (he was a Russian POW). Use of such methods for fighting a war while being a POW was probably one reason why Russian POWs were often shot.

    I am not surprised of the high death ratios in concentration camps, which was a fact in all old concentration camps since they were first used in the Boer war. No antibiotics, minimal food portions, people carrying diseases, discipline with death penalty, escape attempts, mismanagement, there are many reasons for deaths.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @FB
  285. @Rich

    ” As for Israel’s actions, that area of the world is deeply troubled. Whether or not it was right to take the land away from the Arabs, it’s a done deal now ”
    After 130 years the French colonists were driven out of Algeria.
    At the end of WWII Germans were forced to leave huge territories in E Europe where they felt at home, estimates exist that three million died while fleeing.
    The British left anywhere in the world, the Dutch around 1949 were driven out of Indonesia.
    Belgians left Congo.
    At present whites are being driven out of S Africa.
    Russians in Moldavia had to flee.
    History is full of examples of deals not done.
    BTW, Palestinians can be seen as Arabs, they do not see themselves as Arabs.

    • Replies: @Rich
  286. @Wally

    Any evidence to support your assertions ?

    • Replies: @Wally
  287. @Sam Shama

    I wrote about the 17th century.
    Oil, Royal Dutch was so small that it was sold to the Rothschilds.
    In the 19th century the Dutch East Indies brought the Netherlands indeed profit, in the 20th it was already over.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  288. @Anon

    ” Maybe that’s why he hates Spain so much, most of the treasure ships made it safely back to Spain despite the Dutch pirates

    He scolds Americans because of slavery but won’t acknowledge it was a Dutch ship that brought the first Africans to Jamestown Va in 1619.”

    Hating Spain, great country for holidays, the treasure ships, Adam Smith wrote Wealth of Nations in 1776 to warn that gold was not wealth, on the contrary.
    Dutch ship, quite possible.
    Scolding Americans, what do you mean ?
    Slavery was begun by Spanish in S America.
    USA slave owners seem to have behaved far better than Brazilian ones:
    Giorgio Marotti, ‘Black Characters in the Brazilian Novel, Afro-American culture & society monograph series CAAS’, 1987 Los Angelos

    • Replies: @Respect
    , @Anon
  289. Miro23 says:
    @anon

    The same people are now running this country.

    Yes, it’s a Mafia with collaborators, enforcers, bribes, threats, extortion in a spectacularly corrupt system, covered by the rule of “Omerta” (silence).

  290. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yes and black SJWs don’t hate white people for the colour of their skin. It’s because white people created AIDS in a lab to kill black people, conspire to enslave them and hide the history that blacks wuz kangz.

    Cool, no racism there…

  291. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Colin Wright

    I think my reply was appropriate to your comment.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  292. Read the books ‘The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel, ‘Against Our Better Judgment, The Hidden history of how the US was used to create Israel’. Israel is no friend. My friends died in Iraq fighting to improve Israel’s strategic position and also to pump Iraqi oil to Israel to replace the oil Israel was getting, in secret, from…you guessed it, Iran. Know Israel and the Zionist dominated US government is pushing Trump hard to attack and invade Iran. Another one of my friends killed himself in Iraq. Israel has cost the US taxpayer at least 5 TRILLION $$$ over the decades. The cost of the Iraq war of 2003, financial “aid”, stolen intellectual property, the US Liberty incident, the cost to the world economy for the Oil embargo of 1973, the cost to the world economy as the price of oil spiked to over $100 during the Iraq war, “charity” money given to Israel by Americans….the list goes on and on.

  293. Anonymous[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Are you deliberately insulting him with a kindergarten level test of his logic? Do you think him incapable of saying “I voted to prevent a greater evil coming to pass”?

  294. @Ibn Issam

    The Haaretz link wouldn’t open? Anyone know why?

  295. @Miggle

    Yes you missed answering the nub of the question. You have done a bit of reading round the subject but you missed the fact that Greg Cochran, like Ron, a former physicist and known for, amongst other publications, the study of the Ashkenazi ereditary neurological diseases with Harpending and Hardy, has said in UR comments as well as his own website that Ashkenazin are somewhere between 48 and 58 per cent European (from memory, but it isn’t more). That you have a way to go to catch up is suggested by your ignoring altogether the probable version that here was some conversion of Khazar royalty and nobility to Judaism, no more. Also the commonsense problem of Yiddish being effectively a German dialect and not connected to Khazars.

  296. sarz says:

    To be fairish to Randy Paul as you call him, that phase of his life where he proclaimed he spent several hours a day worrying about what he could be doing for Israel, that was four years ago. I am sure he wishes he hadn’t said loads of shit-eating stuff about Israel. And he’s the best senator you’ve got. I cannot see how the American republic can make it out of this cesspool.

  297. @SolontoCroesus

    Greetings from West Scranton, S2C!
    … I too sense Trump & Putin are “creating a new structure.”
    … Maven Sam the Sham (ugh!) consistently preaches about financial power & the reality of Marxian “economic determinism.”
    … Below is an important article which emphasized how Jewish oligarch’s maintain immense financial, subsequent political power in Russia.
    https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/russia-putins-attempt-prevent-revolutions-starts-israel
    … Naturally, such power intimidates President Putin & he must realize that if he continues opposition to Jewish oligarch goals (those who have stake in Russian Media) they shall create CHAOS by instigating pro-western demonstrations.
    … Question. Will Putin make deal to save his legacy & the part of the Motherland to which he is allegiant? Fyi, “Westernization” came easy for Peter the Great, and the Atlanticist Integrationists are exerting awesome power upon Vlad the Great.
    … Thanks, S2C & others here who might be interested!

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Anon
  298. @Tyrion 2

    I think you’re confusing civic-mindedness with parasitism and subversion.

  299. Anon[364] • Disclaimer says:

    “On the one hand, I believe Mr. Giraldi should choose his language more carefully. Perhaps instead of referring to “Jews,” he should narrow this to “Jewish Likud supporters” or something similar.”

    I think a lot of that might come from frustration over being continually ignored. Giraldi is clearly on to something, but his lack of restraint allows his enemies to unfairly paint him – and by extension his criticism – as extreme. I might suggest he use some term like “Israel Lobby” or “Jewish Ethnic Interests.” I agree that Giraldi shouldn’t play into the hands of critics because his argument is more important than the man himself; so, Giraldi should take one for the team – keep the argument the same but employ better optics.

  300. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Are you one of those who finds “Anonymous” a comfortable cover when you want to be both rude and careless? It’s a long time since I’ve needed to read up adverse possession – certainly it’s new that human rights law has been invoked, but the possibility that you had gone to some adult education lectures recently in legal history and your emphasis on “uncontested” set me to reading up what comes up readily online and it was intriguing to find that “uncontested” doesn’t get a mention. Of course what is important is what the “true owner” has to do not to lose title to one who has taken possession de facto and with the intention of holding it exclusively. And there we get back
    to what is needed as advocacy to get over the general recognition outside the Muslim world of Israel within its pre 1967 boundaries. Unfortunately for impotent claimants all Statites of Limitations and other routes to limiting claims after the passage of time have been supported by a public interest in finality being reached and in delay in enforcing one’s rights against another being delayed.

  301. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @skrik

    Not so fast in thinking your callow anonymous friend has done his crude job properly….

    • Replies: @skrik
  302. @Anon

    Gotcha – but in this case the perps hide behind the optics and I made a conscious decision to expose who is doing what to whom without employing euphemisms.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  303. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “The passage of the nation-state law attacks and effectively demolishes every reason for supporting the state of Israel that once existed for many American Jews and for an increasing number of Americans.

    It puts the lie to the idea that Israel is a democracy by denying full-privileges of citizenship to long-time residents within the borders Israel controls. It creates an apartheid society in which ethnic identity trumps fundamental human rights.

    Hardest still for many American Jews, it flies in the face of cherished Jewish values and the lessons of Jewish history – so much so that it makes Israel in many respects, an un-Jewish state.

    It also, not secondarily, makes Israel a less desirable ally, because it is harder to defend politically and morally, establishes it as more extreme and situates it as playing a more inflammatory role. Even if the Trump administration was tolerant or even supportive of this dissolute turn, that doesn’t make it in the U.S. national interest. As we have seen, often the contrary is true.”

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50033.htm

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Wally
  304. @SolontoCroesus

    I have just been to the funeral of one of the greatest achievers of my lifetime acquaintance, a very clever, scholarly, decent, honest much respected man of the world, sceptical by habit of mind but a Christian believer whose funeral was in church. Remarking to one of his offspring that I had never got round to tackling the father with the sheer impossibility of the Abrahamic God as virtually universally conceived the intelligent offspring also admitted to belief in God but …. also… that it wasn’t religion’s place to tell people that e.g. abortion was wrong or, more generally I think, lay down the law… and…. that conceiving God as a person was not the way to go.

    Puzzling, isn’t it. Moi, I don’t try and get “ought” from an “is” but I do think we have to learn a bit from evolutionary biology and psychology about the rules we might need to keep us living in something like the harmony nearly everyone tends to agree is better than ‘nature raw in tooth and claw”. Allow me another digression. Don’t you think John Rawls’ “veil of ignorance” system is just what you might expect of a civilized New England scholar but not necessarily going to give him the textbook logical answers he might expect from Ted Indian Braves or Viking raiders?

  305. Z-man says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Yes, I’ve noticed in some pictures how he looks almost subservient to the snake of Satan Netanyahoo’. With the Neocon Cabal in Washington and Putin’s own 5th Column it’s going to be difficult to defeat Satan, but it must!
    BTW, Trump and Putin have pretty much made The Zionist Entity a protectorate. This could come back to bite the Zionists in the arse but we shall see.
    I also see that Izrael allowed supplies to go back into Gaza, probably after some begging from the Americans and Egyptians. Shame on both the US and that banana republic Egypt.

  306. @Q

    In Australia an old constitutional provision against dual citizens running for the houses of the federal parliament has just begun to be stringently enforced (no doubt because majorities have been so slim and it has therefore mattered). What a contrast with the US. But I can’t believe the comparison is NIL v. 89 per cent. Source please.

  307. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    I’ve been listening to one of the variable-length-but-mostly-long versions of Freedman’s 1961 speech. He doesn’t sound like a crank though I want to check some of his base dates, facts and figures. I need a reliable transcript but the site I found that claimed to have a cleaned up transcript did not. Can you help?

    Mind you it doesn’t seem to be supporting your broader claim about the causes of WW1 but it is still interesting.

  308. @ohmy

    Q:

    Are “we the American tax payer” paying for our own demise? Are we that subjugated?

    A:

    For this reason, whoever desires liberty, should understand these vital facts, viz.: 1. That every man who puts money into the hands of a “government” (so called), puts into its hands a sword which will be used against himself, to extort more money from him, and also to keep him in subjection to its arbitrary will. 2. That those who will take his money, without his consent, in the first place, will use it for his further robbery and enslavement, if he presumes to resist their demands in the future. 3. That it is a perfect absurdity to suppose that any body of men would ever take a man’s money without his consent, for any such object as they profess to take it for, viz., that of protecting him; for why should they wish to protect him, if he does not wish them to do so? To suppose that they would do so, is just as absurd as it would be to suppose that they would take his money without his consent, for the purpose of buying food or clothing for him, when he did not want it…

    - Lysander Spooner
    —No Treason, no. 6: The Constitution of no Authority, pages 16–17

    Here’s an important reason why taxes are theft, and why we pissants are tax slaves.

    …sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes… (…but who manages the managers… (JS transaltaion 2018))

    - Juvenal, Satire 6

  309. @NoseytheDuke

    …I think that most of those who self identify as Jews are being played too.

    Without a doubt. Many former Commies (emphasis on former) were good hearted Jews as well as dumb goyim who were suckered into believing in the movement’s benevolence and it’s apparent that the same goes for today’s Israel-firsters. What they fail to see is that as soon as they fail to be of use to the mafiosi, they’ll be tossed under the bus like everyone else who’s no longer of use.

    It’s a recurring theme and it astounds me that so many of the “high IQ” and “chosen” ones don’t see what’s in front of their noses. (Ooops, did I say that?)

  310. FB says:
    @L.K

    You don’t know enough about history to use it in a debate…

    For instance your point that Gorbachev provided weapons to Iraq misses badly the point that Iraq started this war in 1980…five years before Gorbachev even came to power…and it was not until about 1987 when the war was nearly over that weapons from the USSR started going to Iraq on a significant scale…

    The author you cite is a Canadian who doesn’t even live in Iran and clearly has some kind of agenda that is at odds with the Iranian position, as is the case with most Iranian exiles, who are rabidly pro-west and pro-Shah..the historical fact is that it was the US that encouraged Iraq to invade Iran, in the aftermath of the Iran revolution and the US hostage crisis…the Soviet Union came quite late to that party…although still it is clear the scumbag Gorby had no trouble emulating his imperialist idols in the west…

    As for the creation of Israel, I am well aware of the historical facts…the 1947 UN plan was to divide Palestine 55/45 to the Jews and Palestinians respectively…this actually came from the non-aligned movement countries, led by Yugoslavia, India and others…but the hemming and hawing among the Great Powers…saw this plan die on the vine…as the Israelis moved aggressively to establish facts on the ground via ethnic cleansing…

    True, it was Stalin that recognized Israel first…prompting Truman to quickly follow suit…really the two were competing for influence in a region that was traditionally divided among imperialist powers…the socialist countries did however provide crucial arms supplies to the Israelis early on…mostly since citizens of these countries had fresh in their memory the Nazi nightmare and genocide of both Slavs and Jews…it was solidarity…also considering that Israel’s politics ere socialist-leaning to some extent…

    The US was somewhat ambivalent towards Israel until much later…when the imperialists in DC realized how useful Israel could be for their designs on the Mideast…this was demonstrated in 1967 with the USS Liberty incident, where the US ship under attack from Israel was given no help by orders only from president Johnson…but the coverup showed that there was a powerful wing in the government that saw Israel as very important to US aims in the region…

    Over the next decade, with Nixon’s exit from the gold standard and the secret petrodollar deal with the Saudis…the US had discovered a nifty way to build a global finance Ponzi scheme…and the ability to print virtually unlimited amounts of money without crashing its currency…

    This is the linchpin of the whole financialized economy that has made America miserable and mostly poor…[compared to the kind of middle class prosperity seen in the immediate postwar years]…and both Israel and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia are key to this arrangement…which is why the US will do anything for Israel…and interestingly nobody is concerned about a similar indulgence [bordering on fawning] with the even more criminal Wahhabi state…

    So the picture like I said is not so clear as some would like to portray…that these kinds of arguments are put forth by Hitler fanboys does not help their cause…

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @L.K
  311. Vojkan says:
    @geokat62

    The irony is that such immigration policy has created a much less safe environment for Jews in France. When French suburbs were mostly French, anti-semitism was an insignificant phenomenon. Now Jews are not only resented by the mostly muslim people they brought in but also more and more by the French for the damage mass immigration of people with a totally different culture is causing to French society.

    • Replies: @anon
  312. Sam Shama says:
    @renfro

    If you wrote in complete sentences, not fragments, one would be better disposed to hear your arguments, however plaintive and ridiculous they sound.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @SolontoCroesus
  313. @j2

    Superb comments there!

    May I also add that the general German population was also kept on a starvation diet for something like 4 years after the hostilities supposedly ceased? And that’s what they endured after decades of similar abuse by the world ruling empires. Germany was turned into one huge concentration camp as Germans were herded from surrounding areas (where many had lived for hundreds of years) into Germany, starved, and put to work as slave laborers or sent to Russia to supply slave labor.

    Allied “victors” imposed ineffably sadistic conditions while inflicting collective and arbitrary punishment and slavery on the people of Germany. I’m convinced that sadism and greed on the part of a few well placed individuals were the prime causes of the world wars, both of which were totally unnecessary (cf Churchill himself) and unjustifiable as are all the wars of Israel and the USA since.

    The so called victims of “the” holocaust should quit complaining because they, it would seem, got off a lot easier than goyim victims of the war. I bet most folks would prefer a relatively quick death by gassing to endless years of torture, starvation, inadequate shelter, familial breakup and slave labor if they had the choice.

  314. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Did you not notice that the Stratfor article you linked was dated 2005? Ancient history in that moving world. Do you still think Putin worries about the oligarchs?!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  315. Tyrion 2 says:
    @annamaria

    I have been to a hundred countries that happily call themselves democracies and are much less democratic than Israel.

    Anyway, America truly gives different races different rights. As does Western Europe. Being white makes you someone whom all major institutions very loudly boast about discriminating against.

    If the Israelis actually do it institutionally, which I don’t think they do, it certainly isn’t on that scale.

  316. @Anon

    …but his lack of restraint allows his enemies to unfairly paint him – and by extension his criticism – as extreme.

    I call BS.

    Smearing is a common tactic used by the usual suspects and “The Messiah” himself suffered that and worse as we all have been told.

  317. Sam Shama says:
    @jilles dykstra

    [I wrote about the 17th century.]

    You speak as if the couple of centuries of plunder, for it was plunder, not “profit”, of which you claim you did not write, are mere moments in time when wealth did not accumulate and compound.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  318. @Philip Giraldi

    One of the things I highly admire about your approach is that you often name names and avoid silly generalizations, and other forms of group think, so ignore the boneheads. You are doing one helluva job and I hope you keep it up.

    Bless you.

    • Agree: geokat62, L.K
  319. APilgrim says:

    Restoration of the constitutional rule of law is critical.

    Border Security (The Wall) & Immigration Enforcement are essential to our National Security & Economic Prosperity.

    Congress & the Federal Courts are in need of a clean-up. The Supreme Court is out of balance, with FAR too many: Atheists, Jews & Roman Catholics, on the bench. Protestants, Reform Church members, Congregationalists & Deists have historically dominated SCOTUS.

    The ‘American-Protestant-Ethic (APE)‘ has been watered down, to ‘Judeo-Christian Values’ & worse ‘Abrahamic Monotheistic Values. Time to end, ‘The Rape of the APE‘.

  320. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    He only said, initially, that debt is good, and for “proof”, we should study the blowhard, Krumgman. Only somewhat later did he claim he never said it and after I pointed out some of the variables, such as the differences between public and private debt, that he admitted the statement needed some qualification.

    It must be a difficult act, braying and bullshitting at the same time. I’ve gone over this subject with boneheads, prominently yourself, more than a few times. The archives at UR are fairly easy to search, so why don’t you show us where I wrote what you claim, that debt is an unqualified good. The context was in the backdrop of the great recession and the Liquidity Trap. You don’t really know much on this subject.

  321. FB says:
    @j2

    ‘…I once took a calorie calculator from the web, estimated weights of inmates at that time and checked how large were the camp daily portions compared to the calorie need…’

    And where pray tell did you get data on camp daily portions…?…Stormfront…?

    What a laughable idiot…

    • Replies: @j2
  322. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    As a monotheist, I’m down with the one-and-only-God message. ;)

    and it doesn’t matter what His name is, or what He advocates? (genocide, slavery, racial supremacism – in the case of the Old Testament ‘god’)

    Is your affection for the idea of monotheism so strong that you’d prefer a god of murderous, tribal hate and wrath, to the Gods or Goddesses of love?

    Here’s one, for instance..

    Clíodhna

    ‘In Irish myths, Clíodhna is a goddess of love and beauty. She is said to have three brightly colored birds who eat apples from an otherworldly tree and whose sweet song heals the sick.’

    Just imagine if the Jewish people worshiped such a Goddess, rather than their bloodthirsty, jealous god of hatred and death.

    Judaism is often criticized by people looking at it through a lens of a universalist religion, but it isn’t nor has it claimed itself to be other than what it is; a religion custom-tailored for the Jewish people. In that sense, it is what one would expect –

    which is my point. How can you claim Judaism to be a sister fellow monotheistic religion like Islam, if it fundamentally is not?

    The Irish Goddess Clíodhna is Goddess for the Irish people. Not for everyone. Just as the Jewish god is a tribal god, who clearly hates and wants to kill or enslave non-Jews. Is your affection for the latter, simply a case of Jehovah demanding that he, and only he, is the true and only god? (to the obvious and irreconcilable exclusion of Allah)

    Vs. Clíodhna, who’s only stricture is that love heals her devotees?

    If one were to divine a religion, and call it Hatred, where the god is Gall. And he is the only god, and his stricture are to kill all non-believers… and hatred is the key to his kingdom..

    Would such a monotheist religion be preferable to the Hindu religion, being as it’s monotheistic, whereas Hinduism is not?

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Ibn Issam
    , @Zumbuddi
  323. Rich says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Well, the European colonies were abandoned for a variety of reasons. The Colonial Era of European nations ended mainly, I’d say, because of the great population losses of WWI and WWII, contraception and abortion and a loss of will, being “driven out” is really a stretch. Non of the native insurgencies were overly popular, and the animals who took over after the Euros left, were usually much, much worse. That being said, where are the Israelis going to go? Back to Russia? Poland? Lithuania? Any of the Arab countries going to take them back? Their backs are against the wall, they are well armed. purportedly have nukes and they have the will to fight which the French in Algiers, the Belgians in Africa and the Dutch in Indonesia didn’t. I’m not saying it’s right, but it’s pretty much a done deal. Maybe some Saladin rises up in the future and drives the Israelis into the sea, and maybe King Arthur returns to save England. I doubt it, though. The Arabs have to find a way to make the best deal they can with a superior military that they can’t defeat. That’s just reality.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  324. Respect says:
    @jilles dykstra

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cartagena_de_Indias

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_de_C%C3%B3rdova_y_C%C3%B3rdova

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Armada

    You dutch should have stayed with Spain , instead of beings pirates and mamporreros of the english and of the calvinists , and you would have lived live happier , and would have your consciences in peace with God .

  325. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    why don’t you show us where I wrote what you claim,

    If Jacques doesn’t mind..

    what we’re all aware of Sam, is your eternal and braying fealty to that imbecile Kruggy, whose claim to fame is that “debt is good”.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/opinion/paul-krugman-debt-is-good-for-the-economy.html

    U.S. economy has, on the whole, done pretty well these past 180 years, suggesting that having the government owe the private sector money might not be all that bad a thing

    so you see? Debt is good (for the Jewish banksters) because even as the debt slave class toil away, and are still able to feed themselves, (when the Fed isn’t creating depressions or recessions), debt allows a certain class of people to ‘live off the fat of the land’. You see?!

    Isn’t that cool? It’s like biblical and stuff! ((We)) get to enslave the dumb goyim with debt, and so as they toil away, (((we))) get to live off their sweat and tears!

    wwweeeeeeeee!

    Debt is good!!!

    just read this Jewish supremacist imbecile!

    Believe it or not, many economists argue that the economy needs a sufficient amount of public debt out there to function well. And how much is sufficient? Maybe more than we currently have.

    • Replies: @Anon
  326. @Anon

    Anon #436 logically asked: “Did you not notice that the Stratfor article you linked was dated 2005? Ancient history in that moving world. Do you still think Putin worries about the oligarchs?!”
    Hi #436,
    …Periods of time (timing) indeed matter for achievement of the global social/political goals of international Jewish finance. One can get a grip on this matter by perusing the Protocols of Zion.
    … So to answer your question, & despite my linked article’s date @ 2005, my answer is a simple & resounding “da.”
    … Thank you very much!

  327. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    If you wrote in complete sentences, not fragments, one would be better disposed to hear your arguments, however plaintive and ridiculous they sound.

    Jewish rationalizations. World domination by Jerusalem. Rape of national economies by Jewish bankers. Despoilment of ethnic virgins at the pleasure of Jewish overlords. Lies. Deceit. Corruption. Theft. Conspiracy. Treason.

    Fragmentary enough for ya, Nimrod? Or, is it Elijah?

  328. Back in 1985 I was inspired by a book written by U.S. Congressman Paul Findley entitled “They Dare To Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel’s Lobby.”

    Paul Findley (now 97 years old) is a patriot and his work in exposing the corruption of U.S. politics and policies by the Israel/Jewish Lobby has put him in the pantheon of Great Americans.

    Philip: Your steadfastness in exposing this same cancer on our national body politic has earned you, too, a place in that same pantheon of Great Americans. Please don’t ever give up your important work – work for which we are in your debt.

    P.S. We are approaching one year since “The American Conservative” buckled under the pressure of the Israel/Jewish Lobby and stopped carrying your columns. It was a shameful, cowardly, anti-American act by The American Conservative – an act from which TAC’s reputation has not recovered.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  329. @Sam Shama

    Who knows the sound of one keyboard writing.

  330. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    Nope, it’s much more convincing to type out a cryptic message that makes you appear all-knowing.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  331. @Kurt Gayle

    Thank you Kurt, much appreciated. I have noticed that any critical mention of Israel at TAC has effectively disappeared since I was fired. Odd, since the magazine was founded by Pat Buchanan 15 years ago over the issue of predominantly Jewish neocons having hijacked our foreign policy. I also note that the current TAC readership has changed. Judging from comments on the articles that are posted, I believe you are one of the few remaining conservatives who goes to the site!

  332. intel says:

    @309

    ‘it flies in the face of cherished Jewish values and the lessons of Jewish history – so much so that it makes Israel in many respects, an un-Jewish state.’

    Look up, Quod erat demonstrandum. Then report back.

  333. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    I don’t want to distract the thread, but since you made some points.

    it doesn’t matter what His name is, or what He advocates?

    Ontologically, not really. If He/It truly is God then injustice and immorality simply cannot be imagined from Him. Especially if He created the entire universe and everything in it. It is His to do with as He pleases and no one can question Him about it – well, one can question Him, but that will likely not go well. As far as Him advocating racial supremacy, genocide, etc. – the question is did He do such? Just because someone says He commanded such-and-such only means they say He demanded such-and-such.

    you’d prefer a god of murderous, tribal hate and wrath, to the Gods or Goddesses of love

    I prefer a God with the following attributes that He has revealed of Himself (but, that’s just me):

    https://www.islamicity.org/5855/99-names-of-allah/

    The issue with polytheism is that one cannot escape the package – along with the gods of love and life and health, one gets the gods of war and destruction and disease. Neither can the Celtic pantheon escape this. And despite the presence of the goddesses of love, plenty of pagans owned slaves and did some pretty horrific things to each other – not because they were commanded to by the goddess of love, but rather the god of war was issuing orders.

    How can you claim Judaism to be a sister fellow monotheistic religion like Islam, if it fundamentally is not?

    One can assume that someone else believes in the same one God, while getting the historical record wrong – there isn’t a contradiction.

    Would such a monotheist religion be preferable to the Hindu religion, being as it’s monotheistic, whereas Hinduism is not?

    That kind of a religion would likely not attract many people. It would not be preferable to me since, again, they might well call it monotheistic and I would agree that it is, but that they got their definitions wrong. I would simply look for another monotheistic religion.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  334. Ibn Issam says:
    @Rurik

    Muslims believe in absolute Abrahamic monotheism. However, we also believe that the OT/NT Bible has been altered and changed. So we are free to question and reject the genocide, slavery, racial supremacism in the case of the Old Testaments Jewish tribalistic depiction of God. The Qur’an makes clear that Allah is not simply the God of one nation or tribe but the Lord of all mankind.

    In comparison to the one dimensional pagan Goddesses of love, “Clíodhna, who’s only stricture is that love heals her devotees” Almighty God Allah, is multi-dimensional, and possesses many traits and including love, compassion, beneficence, mercy, forgiveness. The Qur’an clarifies that forgiveness is greater than vengeance, Allah also has established many different mandates and strictures (not just one) that help one to lead a righteous and productive life.

    It is not simply that “any old” monotheism is better than all else. It is about the quality and purity of the Monotheistic belief and all that it encompasses and entails. It is also not that Jehovah excludes Allah (they are really one and the same just different names for the same God) it is more about what do we know and believe about that One true God.

    Hope that helps..Salaam.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  335. Rurik says:
    @FB

    Israel is the US’s creation, not the other way round

    I must have missed it when someone said the US was a creation of Israel.

    As for Israel being a creation of the US, that’s stupid.

    The US was one of the forces brought to bear in the creation of the modern state of Israel, but the idea that Israel is a creation of the US is preposterous.

    The modern state of Israel is a product of Jewish supremacist Zionists. Duh.

    Are there lots of Jewish supremacist Zionists in the ZUS? Oh hell yes, but there are lots of the same in many nations. England for instance, and France.

    A nice way of looking at it is to compare Zionism with its twin, Bolshevism.

    Both of these movements were funded by Jewish supremacist banksters in the West. Both foisted a genocidal horror on the people in whose lands these nefarious movements were subject to. But just because the money came from Jewish supremacists in NYC (and London, etc..) is no reason whatsoever to say that the US (or England) created Bolshevism or Zionism. That’s flat out idiotic.

    US has been perpetuating its economic global empire largely by way of the petrodollar since 1974…having an Israeli pit-bull in the region benefits this empire tremendously…

    is that why the people of the ZUS were subject to an oil embargo?

    Is that why I used to get gobs of speeding tickets for going over a 55 mph speed limit, imposed on the citizens of the ZUSA because of our abased fealty to all things Zion?

    Is that why we’ve been subject to endless wars for Israel, because it benefits the people of the ZUS “tremendously”?

    What I suspect your major malfunction is here..

    is equating the welfare of treasonous ZUS politicians and assorted MIC scum…

    with the welfare and motivations of the people of the ZUSA.

    Oil corporations, politicians, arms manufacturers – are not the “US”.

    What you’re trying to do here, is what they did with the banking crisis. During the banking crisis, a group of super swindlers looted the global economy by selling mortgages loaned out to illegal immigrants as AAA rated investments, and they got fantastically wealthy doing so, until the bubble burst and the tax/debt slave was called in to bail out the banksters.

    But then right on cue, the dissemblers were quick to point out that a middle class homeowner made some money too!!!! When they sold their house for a profit during the bubble!!

    So it was all a direct consequence of the American people’s greed!!!!

    By deflecting the blame from the guilty (Jewish supremacist Zionists in the case of Israel), and saying ‘but look at how the oil corporations or MIC benefited!!! Is nothing more than a disgusting ruse. And its obvious intent is to give the guilty a pass on their unspeakable crimes, by blaming some amorphous non-entity like the ‘WASPs’ or the “US”.

    Israel get the US to break up Yugoslavia or to bomb it in 1999…?

    .
    globalist Zionists were fully in charge of the Clinton White House. Duh

    ‘Clinton’ put (((Gen. Clark))) in charge of bombing Serbia. The stated aim was to destroy all notions of an ethno-nation state . “There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states.” (((Gen. Clark)))

    There may have been other reasons. A quid pro quo to Islam for some of their loses in Palestine. A starting point for the 21st century’s Eternal WarsⓊ, other reasons perhaps. None of which in any way whatsoever benefit the people of the US in the slightest way. Indeed, quite the contrary. As with all the wars and horrors we Americans are forced to endure due to the iron grip the Zionist who own and control the Fed perpetrate on us. ((They)) get the benefits, we get the body bags and the bill.

    Then came 911 and the so-called ‘war on terror’…certainly Israel may have benefitted, but the US was waging regime change in Afghanistan

    Oh, I see!

    With the slaughter of 3000 Americans, and the subsequent loss of our civil rights, and the cost of seven trillion just for destroying Iraq, and the Eternal WarsⓊ for Israel, and the hatred of the global community, and all the other benefits to “the US, that 9/11 has given us, I guess we Americans should be grateful for 9/11 huh?

    Because just look at how ‘the US’ has benefited!!!

    We get to have our young people in the military killed in wars to benefit Israel all over the planet!

    And if they didn’t die over there, well then they’re killing themselves in record number when they come home!

    Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    We get to be treated like Palestinians at the airports and concerts, we get to have a police state with Total surveillance 24/7. We get to spend God knows how many trillions upon trillions of dollars destroying nations and people’s lives the world over!!!

    How great is that?!

    I suppose the greatest hope we Americas can have is for another 9/11, so we can all benefit by sacrificing every single drop of our young people’s blood and treasure into the maw of Jewish supremacist rapine and terror the world over!

    I have to go, but I just am amazed at the depths of duplicity and dishonestly I read here.

    No doubt, if the Jewish supremacist Zionists were able to foist a war between the US and Russia, (something many of them are obviously keen to do), then what some of these assholes would be saying is that as the nuclear bombs are dropping on Kansas, that this is all the work of WASPs and working class ‘white nationalists” in the “US”, who’re trying to take over the world!

    • Replies: @FB
    , @anarchyst
    , @geokat62
  336. Anon[397] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    I think what Sam was asking was where he, Sam, wrote debt is an unqualified good. Your post though sounds like a rant. It’s obvious you did not go through Krugman’s article that you must have googled for the headline. Pretty funny if you read through the entire thing, Do you know how Kocherlakota made a reversal in his stand? (Kocherlakota is linked in the article. He was really against debt-based spending until he saw the light). Read the article and try not to clutter with rants.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  337. FB says:
    @Rurik

    Well…the only thing I was able to discern from your babble is that you seem to dispute something I said…the rest being completely incoherent…

    Try organizing your thoughts and then articulating them in an understandable way…

  338. APilgrim says:

    The 3 most popular government officials, with American Voters are: (In this order)

    1) USA President Donald Trump
    2) Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu
    3) Russia President Vladimir Putin

    Perhaps a DISTANT 4th might be Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Mihály Orbán or USA Vice President Mike Pence. Nobody else, anywhere else, would even come close. IMHPO

  339. Zumbuddi says:
    @Rurik

    In the good old days when nuns wore habits and did not have legs, Holy Cards were the medium of exchange.

    One favorite Holy Card bore the image of a stylized Madonna, and the caption:

    Mary
    Our only savior from an abstract Christ.

  340. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    CIA has instigated successful coup against many countries that did not toe US lines- Syria, Iran, Iraq, Congo, Brazil Peru, Honduras and many other counties.

    Has it ever caused any coup in Israel ? KennedeY?
    Truman?
    Eishenhower

    Bush Sr
    Clinton
    Obama ??

    No . But coup was mounted against them and they were silenced.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  341. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    By the way who was preventing the daily presidential briefings from reaching the consciousness level? Was it Wolfowitz who downplayed Al Quida and promoted Saddam as the architect of terrorism against USA and took the focus away from Jihadist. It was him who downplayed any Osama angle on future terrorism and past past (1993 WTC bombing ) . If he were not there , 911 would not have happened.

  342. skrik says:
    @Anon

    your callow anonymous friend has done his crude job properly

    Me not being interested in legal mumbo-jumbo, it would seem that you may have a comprehension problem, AFAIK, there is no

    Statites of Limitations

    [yours = Anon[436]‘s words] on murder, which the invading aliens into Palestine started perpetrating latest with King David Hotel bombing, Plan Dalet with outrages like the Deir Yassin massacre, etc. as I wrote ‘above.’ On 18 November 2014 the UNGA passed a thing called A/69/L.21 which includes “Recalling its resolutions 181 (II) of 29 November 1947, 194 (III) of 11 December 1948, …” Next quote, from 194 (III)

    11.Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible; Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations;

    Which I term RoR+R*3 = Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation.

    A/69/L.21 also mentions “the principle of land for peace,” “a permanent two-State solution,” “pre-1967 borders” [my bold, and kindly note that 'pre-1967 borders' was and is only an armistice line; with UNGA181 being not law, the ELO/Os = original Palestinian natives *still* own the land they owned pre-alien invasion/attack] and “the Palestinian people of its inalienable rights” which include Article 17 • (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property, as I wrote above.

    But again, I don’t ‘do’ legal mumbo-jumbo; the ‘comprehension problem’ that I assert you ‘suffer’ from, is to not recognise that murder for spoil, here soil, is a) wrong, b) = immoral as well as illegal and must c) be corrected and d) punished, with the ‘full force of the law’ = like at Nuremberg, say.

  343. Wally says:
    @annamaria

    said:
    Hardest still for many American Jews, it flies in the face of cherished Jewish values and the lessons of Jewish history – so much so that it makes Israel in many respects, an un-Jewish state.

    Wow, laughable spin. What “Jewish values” are those?

    Do tell, what are the “lessons of Jewish history”?

    Perhaps you’re referring to the history of the fake ’6,000,000 Jews’ that Jews have been pushing since at least 1823.*
    So you’re saying that lying is a “Jewish value”?

    You seem to have forgotten that US Jews overwhelmingly support “that shitty little country”. They also overwhelmingly support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while demanding massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    * Jews have been pushing their ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1823:

    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF

    and:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://www.codoh.com

  344. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    If the 20′s Klan leader was invited by Congress to address it so he could denounce the sitting president I have never heard of it. It would be more accurate to compare sympathy for the Palestinians to the 20′s Klan. But if you want to end up like the Palestinians have, by all means support them.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  345. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    Military expenditure cant be reduced because of the pressure from Israel

    Kristol in 1973 castigated ridiculed and bemoaned teh attempts of McGovern to reduce the military defense budget because it would hurt Israel.

  346. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan

    4 prongs missile attacks by Zionists

    1 Cause war in EU
    2 ask EU to take refuges
    3 Make those refugees hate local
    4 Create websites and letter head organizations in US and EU to spread Islamophobia

    Number 5 is to keep the confluences of the 4 invisible

  347. APilgrim says:
    @anon

    Actually Barack Obama attempted to influence Israel elections to remove Netanyahu.

  348. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    But why is it alone the white whale”

    One can expose ridicule and take to court FBI investigator Strick or his paramour for twitting anti Trump and show distinct love for H Clinton

    But can one throw out those members (who show distinct hatred for Arab and love for Israel ) from US negotiating team sent to conduct peace process deals between Israel and Palestine?

  349. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    it doesn’t matter what His name is, or what He advocates?

    Ontologically, not really. If He/It truly is God then injustice and immorality simply cannot be imagined from Him

    I also don’t want to distract from the thread, but I’m convinced that the founding principle of Jewish supremacism, and the attendant issues as described in this thread, are a direct consequence of the fiendish nature of the Jewish supremacist god.

    One that you call ontologically not dissimilar from the God of Islam; Allah.

    but then you point out that “If He/It truly is God then injustice and immorality simply cannot be imagined from Him”.

    but what is injustice if not murder, theft and genocide?

    what use is a religion or a God if ‘it’ doesn’t have proscriptions against the slaughter of its adherents?

    For a religion to be valid, it would seem to me that one of its tenets should be that the murder of its faithful is prohibited. And yet from the monotheistic religion of Judaism, (as it’s practiced in Israel), the murder of Muslims is perfectly justified by the rabbis. And indeed, is going on today as we speak. The entire conflict between Muslims and Jewish supremacists in the holy land today is based on the idea that the one and only true ‘god’ gave the land to the ‘Jews’. And so based on that command from on high, by the one and only true god, (the god that you seem be consider valid) it’s sanctified to slaughter Muslims and steal their land, because god gave it to the ‘Jews’.

    And it just seems to me that if I were Muslim, and on one hand there was a Jewish supremacist that said I had no right to my home or life, and on the other was a polytheist who demanded that it was wrong and immoral and against his religious beliefs that someone be murdered so their land could be stolen..

    That as a Muslim, I’d be more inclined to side with the polytheists religion in that case, being as his religion meant that my people aren’t slaughtered, vs. the Jewish supremacist religion that demands otherwise.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Ibn Issam
    , @Talha
    , @Akbar Ali
  350. While I am not convinced about the dancing assail —-

    I fully agree, that israeel has far too much influence on the US political psyche that effects policy.

  351. Druid says:
    @Sic Semper

    You failed to make jump. They were involved in the 911 inside job!

  352. Rurik says:
    @Ibn Issam

    Thank you for your thoughtful and informative reply.

    It is also not that Jehovah excludes Allah (they are really one and the same just different names for the same God

    this is my problem.

    They are one and the same.

    And yet you could hardly find a more mutually exclusive set of principles and tenets set out by what is apparently the same God.

    The Jewish supremacist god of the Old Testament, demands that the land of Palestine belongs to the Jews- fee simple. And that slaughtering Muslim Arabs to steal it, is what makes their god happy as a lark. Because ‘he’ gave them that land, and it’s an affront to ‘him’ to see Arabs and Muslims (and Christians) living there.

    So this god, who is the same as the Muslim God, wants the Jewish supremacists to slaughter the Arabs. But then the Muslim God surely frowns on this. So, if these two Gods, who are same God, have such radically and diametrically opposed strictures, I just find it difficult to reconcile the belief that both Gods should be worshiped as the same.

    For me, I would reject the god that says my life and the lives of my people are mute. I would reject the religion that demands one race as being divinely superior to all others, who were put here to serve the divine race.

    I would reject such a religion and it’s god of hatred and murder and genocide, and call such a god a false god.

    But that’s just me.

    Wa alaykumu as-salam

    • Replies: @Ibn Issam
  353. L.K says:
    @FB

    Reading a ridiculous propagandist, Stalinist pig and sad little liar such as yourself, yap about people not knowing ‘history’ is just TOO funny…

    You know the history, do ya? If you do, which I doubt, you are certainly LYING about it. Your whole idiotic rant is basically damage control…

    My first and main point was to show that, contrary to your lies, Zionist power was the definitive force pushing the ZUS government to accept the partition plan…

    They were powerful enough to override the Pentagon, Intel community and State Department.
    This back in 48!
    That is power, and it is this Zionist power & influence which you studiously attempt to HIDE from view. So, what is it? Besides being a Stalinist pig and a sick puppy who cracks jokes about the mass rape and murder of German women, you are also a closet Zionist, are you?

    BTW, the partition plan was ILLEGAL.

    Wrote author and veteran Middle East correspondent, the late Alan Hart;

    According to first and still existing draft of history, Israel was given its birth certificate and thus legitimacy by the UN Partition Resolution of 29 November 1947. This is nonsense.

    * In the first place the UN without the consent of the majority of the people of Palestine did not have the right to decide to partition Palestine or assign any part of its territory to a minority of alien immigrants in order for them to establish a state of their own.
    * Despite that, by the narrowest of margins, and only after a rigged vote, the UN General Assembly did pass a resolution to partition Palestine and create two states, one Arab, one Jewish, with Jerusalem not part of either. But the General Assembly resolution was only a proposal – meaning that it could have no effect, would not become policy, unless approved by the Security Council.
    * The truth is that the General Assembly’s partition proposal never went to the Security Council for consideration. Why not? Because the US knew that, if approved, it could only be implemented by force; and President Truman was not prepared to use force to partition Palestine.
    * So the partition plan was vitiated, became invalid, and the question of what the hell to do about Palestine (after Britain had made a mess of it and walked away) was taken back to the General Assembly for more discussion. The option favoured and proposed by the US was temporary UN Trusteeship. It was while the General Assembly was debating what do that Israel unilaterally declared itself to be in existence – actually in defiance of the will of the organised international community, including the Truman administration.

    FB(S): ‘the socialist countries did however provide crucial arms supplies to the Israelis early on…mostly since citizens of these countries had fresh in their memory the Nazi nightmare and genocide of both Slavs and Jews…it was solidarity’

    Bwahahha… good joke, pig! Clearly, Nothing is idiotic or ridiculous enough for your pen!
    Keep the jokes coming!

    • Replies: @FB
    , @FKA Max
  354. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    Read the article and try not to clutter with rants.

    I read some of the article, but not all.

    I can only stomach his mendacity up to a point.

    But Kocherlakota or no, debt is not good for the health of a republic.

    It loots the tax slave to service the interest on the debt. Something banksters and their shills are very happy about.

    For them ‘debt is indeed ‘good’

  355. L.K says:
    @FB

    Oh, don’t think I didn’t notice your ‘kill the messenger tactic’ with regards to author Kaveh Farrokh.

    You never read the book, if you had you’d know that he fully documents the US/Western support for Saddam’s attack on Iran, including the issue of chemical weapons.
    But he covers the support from the Soviet Union/ Warsaw pact as well, which obviously is not to your liking. At any rate the facts he documents have been covered by many other sources and are not a matter of dispute.

    Now, Pinocchio, why don’t you tell us how, before suffering under Zamerican imperialism, Iran suffered badly under its British and Russian/Soviet forms?

    Iran as a Twentieth Century Victim: 1900 Through the Aftermath of World War II
    By Stephen Sniegoski November 9, 2013

    In the first half of the twentieth century, Russia and Britain forced Iran to relinquish its sovereign rights, and the Iranian people suffered severely as a consequence. As many as 10 million Iranians perished in WWI from famine and disease which was largely Britain’s fault.

    During the nineteenth century, Russia and Britain competed for power and influence in Central Asia, in what was known as the Great Game. Needless to say, it was neither great nor a game for those countries, such as Iran, which were treated like pawns on a chessboard by the two great powers. By the turn of the twentieth century, Russia had come to dominate the northern part of Iran while Britain dominated the south. The two powers formalized this division in the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907, which segmented Iran into three parts—a Russian zone in the north, in which Russia was to have exclusive political and economic control; a British zone in the southeast, in which Britain had the sole right to exercise political and economic control; and a neutral “buffer” zone in the rest of the country, in which both the British and the Russians shared power. [...]

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  356. anarchyst says:
    @Rurik

    It’s worse than that…
    Israel holds a “Damocles sword” over the world. .. its “undocumented” nukes.

    If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.

    The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a “special exemption” granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned or nuclear triggers (tritium) were being renewed, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    • Replies: @Rurik
  357. FB says:
    @L.K

    Easy does it mouthfoamer…you’re liable to have some kind of seizure…

    None of what you said makes any sense…if the so-called Jewish lobby was powerful enough to override all those top government institutions, then who exactly was supporting them…?

    Your logic is unsound on its face…

    As for my cracking jokes about Red Army soldiers raping German women…well so what…I don’t deny these rapes happened…I maintain that it was quite meager payback for the incomparably worse atrocities of wholesale murder of civilians, including children and women, committed by Nazi troops…had the Russians shown the same bestiality to the German population, millions would have died…not been merely raped…

    Also consider that raping a grossly unattractive woman is probably no picnic either…but some soldiers may have gone ahead and considered it their ‘duty’…LOL

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @bj
    , @L.K
  358. TheAHA says:
    @Anonymous

    The DoD was dominated by Jewish neocons you smug fool. The DoD hosts the intelligence gathering units, and the neocons (Feith, Wolfowitz, Wurmser and co) set up new offices that gathered the phony ‘intel’ on Iraqi chemical weapons and circulated it around the White House (via Scooter Libby, neocon), the State Department (John Bolton, neocon Israeli puppet) and through the media (remember Judith Miller’s close ties to Libby and her helping him out during the Plame affair, also remember the Weekly Standard).

    Remember PNAC, Remember Oded Yinon, Remember the Clean Break memo.

  359. Ibn Issam says:
    @Rurik

    I totally understand your points and what you are saying. And I can see why you might be a little confused about the issue as there is a lot to understand.

    First I would say that yes, we are talking about one and the same God – TheFather/Jehovah/Lord/God/Elah/Alah//Allah – he has many Names. Keep in mind that it is not God but rather, man who is the author of confusion.

    In order to communicate his will to us, God has sent down many revelations to many messengers at different points throughout time. Each message was meant for a specific time and place, until the messages was finally perfected and universalized for all mankind in the Holy Qur’an for all time.

    Those who continue to follow previous messages (i.e. Jews) do so at the exclusion of the full width and breadth of the message in its entirety. Therefore they continue to have a very focused understanding of Gods message based on the dispensation that they received. Which is why the Jews continue with a very tribalistic understanding of Religion and God. Likewise for Christians in many ways.

    However, unlike Christianity Islam is not tied at the hip to the OT or NT Bible. Therefore, Muslims have more interpretive maneuverability and freedom in their understanding of the prior messages which are viewed through the lens of the Qur’an. This is one reason why Muslims do not consider Islam to be condoning the same type of racial superiority that Judaism and Christianity reference in order to justify land theft, as the Qur’an speaks directly against any kind of racial superiority, as well as against injustice in general.

    Therefore, while Muslims view Judaism, Christianity and Islam as all part of the same Abrahamic faith family each with specific related revelations from the same God, we also recognize that those revelations were received as part of different dispensations. Furthermore, Muslims also hold that prior revelations were for altered and changed, and this combined with the previous point may also explain some of the mutually exclusive principles and tenets that you alluded to. These two reasons combined, I believe, explain why Muslims do not reject the God of Abraham, simply because some Jews and Christians may have an exclusivist interpretation and understanding of that God, based on scriptures that Muslims don’t fully accept anyway (OT/NT). I hope this makes sense.

    In order to forge a path to peace, instead of focusing on differences, it would be best if all the faiths could focus on the mutually inclusive, and similar principles and tenets, of which there are many more similarities than differences.

    Salaam

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Talha
  360. Ibn Issam says:
    @Rurik

    I understand the point you are making. However, we must be careful not to conflate the justice and morality of God with the injustice and immorality of which man is capable. Again, there is some interpretative differences between the Jewish understanding of a tribalistic God, vs. the Muslim understanding of a universal God who is Lord of all mankind. In Islamic belief, God recognizes the injustices of any and all kinds of any and all kinds racial supremacism and warns oppressors and tyrants of a punishment to come in the hereafter. Most Jews and fundamentalist Christians believe the Bible deeds the land to the Jews based on blood lines, and while Muslims can make a case for the land, through the line of Ishmael, the Muslims more inclusively believe that the holy land is for all those people who believe in God (Jews, Christians AND Muslims) this is why, historically, the most peaceful times in the holy land occurred during the times of Muslim rule.

    And it just seems to me that if I were Muslim, and on one hand there was a Jewish supremacist that said I had no right to my home or life, and on the other was a polytheist who demanded that it was wrong and immoral and against his religious beliefs that someone be murdered so their land could be stolen..

    That as a Muslim, I’d be more inclined to side with the polytheists religion in that case, being as his religion meant that my people aren’t slaughtered, vs. the Jewish supremacist religion that demands otherwise.

    This is an interesting point and question. It may seem expedient to side with polytheists in such a case, however, doing so may open the door to new problems. There are also many other questions that would need to be answered. The Qur’an is very clear and in opposition to polytheism, and Idolatry as systems of belief. However, at the same time, kindness and justice toward all non-Muslims regardless of faith is enjoined upon Muslims by the Islamic faith, but is in no way indicative of any love for the unbelief or idolatrous practices of polytheists. Importantly, Muslims are also enjoined to respect agreements, treaties, etc., and the Qur’an further states:

    Allah does not forbid you in regard to those who did not make war against you on account of religion and did not expel you from your homes, that you deal with them with kindness and justice. Indeed Allah loves the just. ~ Qur’an 60:8

    Therefore, although it is preferable when possible to be allied with people of the book (Abrahamic faiths) when they are amenable and friendly. I think it is also possible for Muslims to enter into an alliance with polytheists when it is expedient to do so.

    I will be interested to read Talha’s response as well!

    Salaam.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  361. @Rich

    The great majority of the Israelis can stay where they are if Israel accepts the Arab League peace proposal: Israelis out of the West Bank, an extraterritorial connection with Gaza, and paying compensation for what was stolen and destroyed until 1967.

    • Replies: @Rich
  362. Wally says:
    @FB

    said:
    “As for my cracking jokes about Red Army soldiers raping German women…well so what…I don’t deny these rapes happened…I maintain that it was quite meager payback for the incomparably worse atrocities of wholesale murder of civilians, including children and women, committed by Nazi troops”

    Except that you have no proof for your mandated & quite laughable propaganda: “the incomparably worse atrocities of wholesale murder of civilians, including children and women, committed by Nazi troops”.

    Present it if you think you have it, and learn. We await your response.

    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes. An obvious admission that the storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.
    Cheers.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • LOL: FB
  363. @Sam Shama

    Which centuries of plunder, the 17th, the 18th, the 19th or the 20th ?
    In the 20th present Indonesia just cost us money.
    In the 19th, do not know where the wealth of plunder went to, not to my ancestors.
    That leaves the period 1800 1900, that began with the Napoleonic occupation of the Netherlands, and the blockade.
    Never seen anywhere that present Indonesia brought us wealth in that period.

  364. Suppose you’re a catholic, those not allowed to think for themselves.
    As was said in the catholic part of the Netherlands, by the ruling elite, to the catholic church: you keep them stupid, we keep them poor.

  365. @L.K

    Hi L.K
    … During the 1980′s I studied politics in the USSR, and by 1985, I learned how concerned were right-wing Zio-inclined academics about the potential compatibility involving the Soviet Union and Iran.
    … Post-WWII, it’s fairly well known that Stalin managed to establish a Soviet beachhead in Iran’s Baluchistan.
    … In retrospect & after reading your knowledgeable post #361, I tend to believe CIA/Mossad were also closely watching the relationship involving restless Iranians who hated Shah Pahlavi’s rule (including “Savak”) and were subsequently open to how Soviets could “spell relief.”
    Thanks & great work L.K!

  366. @Sean

    ‘If the 20′s Klan leader was invited by Congress to address it so he could denounce the sitting president I have never heard of it. It would be more accurate to compare sympathy for the Palestinians to the 20′s Klan. But if you want to end up like the Palestinians have, by all means support them.’

    I don’t know whether it’s your ignorance or your morality that is more striking. I suppose your morality.

    • Replies: @Sean
  367. tac says:

    Israel and the U.S. Congress

    MARCH 18, 2016

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?406894-2/israel-us-congress

    Netenyahoo in right before the 2016 US elections:

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reassured his Cabinet that relations between the United States and Israel will remain strong “whoever is elected” president this week.

    “Whoever is elected the new president, I am convinced that U.S.-Israel relations, which are solid and strong, will not only remain as such, but will further strengthen,” Netanyahu said Sunday at the start of the weekly Cabinet meeting.
    [...]
    Netanyahu also said in his statement: “I would like to note that the alliance with the U.S. is the first, most fundamental and most important of all of our relationships. Thus it has been and thus it will continue.”

    https://www.jta.org/2016/11/06/news-opinion/politics/netanyahu-us-israel-ties-will-stay-strong-no-matter-who-wins-us-presidency

    Israel’s opposition leader Isaac Herzog accused Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or his associates of interfering in the U.S. election.

    “In the past, we saw serious information stating that Israeli leaders tried to intervene and influence the results of the elections [in the United States], and the citizens of Israel paid the high price,” Herzog said. “Recently, we saw again information on Israeli leaders’ intervention in elections through people close to them across the sea.”

    https://www.jta.org/2016/11/07/news-opinion/politics/netanyahu-interfering-in-us-election-israels-opposition-leader-says

    Like the Israeli influence on the UK:

    Any dispassionate review of the UK Labour Party will not find any systemic anti-Semitic rhetoric among its leadership, though there have been instances among individual members and low-level local officials.

    The real origin of the anti-Semitism scourge is in the UK’s Israel lobby – including groups like the Board of Deputies, BICOM, the Jewish Chronicle, and Community Security Trust – and its enablers in the British press and the Israeli embassy.
    [...]
    In order to understand the true motivation behind Labour’s anti-Semitism charges, it’s important to focus less on the actual charges and more on the organisations making them

    Those who fomented this campaign don’t fear anti-Semitism. Rather, they fear Jeremy Corbyn. He has shown that to lead the Labour party you don’t have to be re-formed in the image of Tony Blair, the corporate politician who seeks power for its own sake and makes common cause with dictators and American presidents intent on waging war.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/t-s-important-fight-anti-semitism-witch-hunt-against-labour-party-and-end-it-now-710670515

    The goal of propaganda is a population that polices itself…
    …or why the attacks on Jeremy Corbyn are not what they seem…

    [...]
    When the fear of disapproval becomes so strong that one’s sense of belonging, or even physical survival, depend on adherence to the narrative…when failure to comply with it attracts immediate rebuke from other members of the group…then the population can be said to be policing itself. That is how ‘cults’ function, and more frequently than you might imagine…it’s how intelligence agencies and other governmental figures attempt to work through the media.
    [...]
    This process is happening now. The false equivalence of ‘criticism of Israel’ with ‘anti-Semitism’ is being inculcated into society in general, into the Labour Party in particular, and in its sharpest manifestation, into the smear campaign against Jeremy Corbyn.

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/08/13/the-goal-of-propaganda-is-a-population-that-polices-itself/

  368. @Rich

    ‘Nope, it’s much more convincing to type out a cryptic message that makes you appear all-knowing.’

    I’m perfectly prepared to go through your post. Really.

    • Replies: @Rich
  369. I think you have lost it, Mr. Giraldi. There are many issues concerning the relationship between the US and Israel, but devoting 8 paragraphs to that great intellectual Baron Cohen is hardly dispositive about any of the issues. You are not running a false flag op, are you?

    Tell us about your beloved Turkey, if you would.

  370. Art says:

    Hmm — is our genius Trump, trading our friendship with Europe for friendship with the Saudis et al? Is the Israel/Saudi connection becoming the main interest and friendship in US foreign policy – screw Europe?

    Here is an article by Eric Zuesse (a Jewish UR contributor) saying as much.

    Is Trump/Kushner setting up Saudi to take on Iran for Israel?

    Hmm – it sure looks that way. (500 billion arms sales.)

    The Real Reason Why Trump Cancelled The Iran Deal

    The following is entirely from open online sources that I have been finding to be trustworthy on these matters in the past. These sources will be linked-to here; none of this information is secret, even though some details in my resulting analysis of it will be entirely new.

    It explains how and why the bottom-line difference between Donald Trump and Barack Obama, regarding US national security policies, turns out to be their different respective estimations of the biggest danger threatening the maintenance of the US dollar as the world’s leading or reserve currency. This has been the overriding foreign-policy concern for both Presidents.

    Obama placed as being the top threat to the dollar, a breakaway of the EU (America’s largest market both for exports and for imports) from alliance with the United States. He was internationally a Europhile. Trump, however, places as being the top threat to the dollar, a breakaway of Saudi Arabia and of the other Gulf Arab oil monarchies from the U.S. Trump is internationally a Sunni-phile: specifically a protector of fundamentalist Sunni monarchs — but especially of the Sauds themselves — and they hate Shia and especially the main Shia nation, Iran.

    Here’s how that change, to Saudi Arabia as being America’s main ally, has happened — actually it’s a culmination of decades. Trump is merely the latest part of that process of change. Here is from the US State Department’s official historian, regarding this history

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/08/10/why-trump-cancelled-iran-deal.html

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. Can Saudi punch it way out of a paper bag?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Art
  371. Incitatus says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “…[Giraldi’s] very own “501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.”
    …(zZigh) Above, I must keep faith Philip Giraldi denies the existence of InZitatus’s deceptive comments.”

    Help me out, Chuck. Deceptive in what respect? Isn’t that Giraldi’s description of his foundation?

    I agree with Giraldi much of the time. I’m all for US interests in the ME, spent the 70s-90s doing business there. Enjoyed Abourezk’s ‘Advise & Dissent’ in the early 90s (still have my cloth-bound copy). Just wish PG wasn’t so predictably ethnocentric. Jews, Israel, AIPAC; rinse, repeat. Gets repetitive (whisper: boring). Suppose that’s the price of a 501(c)3 – got to deliver the goods to take the deduction. Wait. ‘Middle East’ covers a lot of territory.

    Where’s PG’s analysis on our 15C monarchical Wahhabi ally KSA, motherland of 15 of 19 9/11/01 régime-identified hijackers? DJT’s first state visit (sword dance, no less). Our biggest weapons customer ($350 billion over 10 years). Stalwart proxy in turning Yemen into an empty turnip field after murdering a lot of Yemenis.

    How about Bahrain, where Hamad (unlike father Sheik Isa) calls himself ‘king’ and snuffs dissent (OK, KSA built the causeway, so Hamad has few choices – but we’re silently complacent – nudge, nudge, wink, wink – as we moor the Fifth Fleet and enable al Khalifas to dredge revenue-paying-land from the Gulf).

    How about the Al Sabahs in Kuwait, benefactors of two Iraq wars (rescued in #1, logistical springboard – transit, transport, fuel, service contracts – in #2)?

    Well?

    PG always seems to start and finish with Jews, Israel, AIPAC. Rinse, repeat. Don’t get me wrong. There’s probably a lot to deal with there. But what about other players? KSA’s current bitch match with Canada, for example?

    Met a Yemeni squatting in ruins of a long-abandoned Riyadh royal mud-compound early 80s (major $200 million future project site). The stench (no sewers) was palpable, early-summer heat (±110° F). Why was he there? He was a former royal slave. KSA abolished slavery 1963. The year JFK was killed. Some say slavery still exists in KSA. Chuck, why doesn’t PG address that, Bahrain, Kuwait and the others in his crusade for “more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East”? Give us a hint.

    Don’t give a shit (forgive my language) about Israel. Never been there, no plans for a visit. I’m sure most Israelis are wonderful people (my experience in Jordan, Cyprus, Syria, Turkey, Kuwait, Bahrain, KSA). Let’s put it this way. I don’t expect them to be any holier than us – the largest arms dealers in the world ($75.9 billion – a new one-year record “cleared by the US State Department and announced by the Defense Security Cooperation Agency in fiscal 2017”: https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2017/09/13/us-clears-record-total-for-arms-sales-in-fy17/ )

    Whad’ya think Chuck? Think a first step might be to stop selling weapons? Is that a popular opinion asking for Jimmies on donuts in Scranton?

    Too much to ask? Well, you’re probably right. Better, in your case, to stick to true religion. More power to you.

    This may help express your fidelity to PG:

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=i+wonder+who+wrote+the+book+of+love+song&&view=detail&mid=305949FEF73C5EAE87FD305949FEF73C5EAE87FD&rvsmid=FDE96FFE5312DF778BADFDE96FFE5312DF778BAD&FORM=VDRVRV

    No need to thank me (thank the Flamingos)! And welcome to America (circa 1959)! I remember it – do you?

  372. @Anonymous

    As Obama said, albeit obliquely, “many of the same people who argued for the war in Iraq are now making the case against the Iran nuclear deal” (and want a war with Iran). And who are they? Obama couldn’t say it, but they are the Jewish Neo-Conservatives. Yes, Jews like Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense in the Bush administration, whom Time magazine called “The Architect” of the Iraq war..

    • Replies: @anon
  373. @Sam Shama

    ‘…That is your bubble-gum history. Yet in every country we’ve called home, in every generation, over and through the depredations which tend to accompany the successful, we have flourished and grown…’

    This is a strange claim. At the moment, the only place I can think of where the number of Jews is actually higher than the historical proportion would be Palestine — and they don’t seem to be getting on too well with the locals and neighbors there.

    On the other hand, I can think of several places that historically had enormous Jewish populations but today have few or none: Spain, Poland, the Ukraine, Iraq, Yemen, and Morocco.

    So exactly how is that Jewry is flourishing and growing? Today, there are only two major centers of Jewry left: Israel and the United States. In the first, you exist in a state of murderous hostility with every single one of your neighbors, and in the second, you’re being assimilated at a rate of about 50% per generation.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  374. tac says:
    @Rurik

    More Jew supremacists show off how ‘tough’ they are:

    https://twitter.com/PPF_Palestine/status/1028996844871770117

  375. @Anonymouse

    The difference between the US and Israel is that since 1945 there has been a modern international law forbidding exactly what Israel has been doing. Moreover, I am not aware of terror attacks of the Founding Fathers against each other, attacks of the kind described in Thomas Suàrez’s “State of Terror”. Zionist Jews killed Jews who had narrowly escaped Hitler’s bloody hands because they wanted to publish their news for their fellow Jews in German, not in Hebrew. These terror attacks were anti-Semitism par excellence.

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/state-of-terror-thomas-suarez/1123924884?ean=9781566560689

    I can already hear you whining about “propaganda”. Each terror attack of the Zionists listed in the book is proven by the file numbers of The National Archives in Kew. Read and learn!

  376. tac says:
    @Anon

    No, Philip needs to continue to clearly define who the enemy is and how it uses America as its whore (especially in the ME wars). More people need to grow a pair and stand up to these Zio Jew supremacist thugs!

    You wants optics, how about this:

    https://twitter.com/Pray4Pal/status/1027925032331141121

    • Replies: @Anon
  377. Rich says:
    @jilles dykstra

    I’m no expert on the various Middle East Peace proposals, but I remember thinking that Arafat made a terrible mistake in not signing the Oslo Accords, I guess he was worried he’d face the same fate as Rabin. The problem now, is, the Israeli stance has hardened and they won’t give as much as Rabin offered. I don’t see any end to it The Arabs aren’t now, and won’t be in the foreseeable future, able to force the Israelis to do anything.

  378. APilgrim says:

    If, after 911, any Muhammadan, anywhere, supposes that the general citizenry of the United States wishes you well …

    Dream On.

    We would generally prefer you dead, by whatever means is available.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  379. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    No, no, you’re a busy man and it would destroy your mystique if you actually had to type anything out. Better to stay on your mountain, sending out vague pronouncements. Keeps everyone in awe.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  380. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    why does the news paper maintain total silence on the Yeemn’s war? Why doesn’t mention how this current war is nothing but an extension the war mounted by USA?
    Why doesnt nobody connect the dots that this war is the result of the mindset that led US to Iraq war?
    Why nobody today wants to remember that this war is the part of the cauldron that Michael Ledenn
    promised cavalierly without regard for the lives of the children and the elderly ?

    USA could have gone to war against Saudi Arab or Jordan or Yemen without first going to Iraq and we still could have ended up where the ME is today. The balkanization and mayhem were the aims and could have been achieved by attacking any ME country . PNAC settled on Iraq because Iraq was already demonized and because that was a better easy sale to US citizen.

  381. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    In 2015 Netanyahu, a foreign head of government, was invited to address Congress without first consulting the sitting president. It was a decision without precedent. Netanyahu is still Israeli PM but Obama’s policies are now a thing of the past. I know that in the Western those who worry about Palestinians’ rights like Clinton and Obama are are highly influential and the same people who worry least about the average person in the West.

    Yes we could keep going down the Obama-Clinton route of peaceful coexistence with Iran, advocating that Palestinians got something really good and force Israel out of the occupied territories, the begining of the end for Israel as a Jewish state, and that is the way things will go eventually unless a tremendous effort is made to avoid it. Why should we? Because the West will suffer a Jewish moral critique onslaught of terrifying proportions if Israel suffers, and the West will destroy itself in altruistic punishment as a result.

    No one is responsible for being born German or Jewish or Palestinian or European Gentile, or black, or white Southerner, and who is to judge the claims they have on each other? I can see that, be it ever so moral, trying to get rid of the baleful influence of Jews by hurting Israel is likely to destroy everything except Jewish diaspora solidarity and grievance against the West.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  382. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reality Check

    “New York money men are agitating for war against Iran”

    Wesley Clarke .

    • Replies: @Reality Check
  383. @Colin Wright

    As disgusting as Israel is — and here’s my article today about some of that: http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/08/trump-to-netanyahu-palestinians-must-be-completely-conquered.html — the FBI investigation checked the photos (and those were still-shots no video) that the “dancing Israelis” took of the WTC and found that the first in the series was shot after and not before the first plane hit the WTC; so, there was no advance-knowledge they had of the event. This is the main reason why the FBI closed that investigation: it reached a dead-end, by finding that the reports that said those people had started “filming” the event prior to the attacks were either mistaken or else lying. Unfortunately a lot of sucker still believe those mistakes or lies.

    Incidentally, I think that this article from Giraldi is superb, one of his best.

  384. @Rich

    ‘No, no, you’re a busy man and it would destroy your mystique if you actually had to type anything out. Better to stay on your mountain, sending out vague pronouncements. Keeps everyone in awe.’

    I’m really not that busy. I can do it if you like.

    • Replies: @Rich
  385. bj says:
    @FB

    I spent the winter of 1989-1990 in Riga, Leningrad, and Moscow with a Latvian Russian woman I met in San Francisco. I was surprised at the number of Germans traveling and doing business in Russia and their easy and confident relationships with Russians. It was a pleasure for me to see that ancient enemies and friends have put paid to the accounts of the past. I am reminded of two men who beat each other in the bar fight and drink after with their arms around each other’s shoulders.

    My mother was Flemish and two of her cousins enlisted in the German SS in 1939 to war with the Godless Bolsheviks. One cousin left his bones in an unknown grave in the Baltics and the other fought five years on the Eastern Front, even to the end in the Battle of Berlin. I, on behalf of the dead, and their are many on both sides of the tragic war, accept and honor the blood and crimes on both sides of the war, and personally move on in the world as it is without desire for vengeance or hatred for old enemies of the past.

    The memory of seeing Rembrant’s The Prodigal Son, hanging in the Hermitage is one of symbolic sharing of our human destiny and our responsibility as men to return home.

    Thanks for your post’s on the Unz Review!

  386. @Rich

    ‘I’m no expert on the various Middle East Peace proposals, but I remember thinking that Arafat made a terrible mistake in not signing the Oslo Accords…’

    ! What do you think this is a picture of?

    • Replies: @Rich
  387. @APilgrim

    ‘If, after 911, any Muhammadan, anywhere, supposes that the general citizenry of the United States wishes you well …

    Dream On.

    We would generally prefer you dead, by whatever means is available.’

    Isn’t it nice now how all the little Hitlers can come out now and strut their stuff? No more need to hide, eh?

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  388. Druid says:
    @Rurik

    The same chertoff of the scam airport scanners that we’re victims of. Scum!

  389. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam,

    Would that ‘Simians United’ supplant ‘Citizens United’. Before money completely chokes the gilded Washington swamp. Alas, can two pundits now pass in the street without smiling at each other?

    Glad to see you back. UR’s boring without you. Unworthy of commentary. Yes, you attract predictable animus, but note the drop in PG’s posts when you’re absent. Ask for a stipend?

    Best

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  390. @Rurik

    Have you seen any official documentation of the decision? It would be interesting to know what authorities it cited. It’s unsurprising that DoJ would do the catch-and-release. CIA has had administrative procedures for that since the Rogers-Huston memo. CIA guys are psychos but you gotta admit they have a sense of humor. Who better to spring their Zionazi Jew saboteurs than a mega-Geezil like Chertoff?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  391. @Art

    ‘…p.s. Can Saudi punch it way out of a paper bag?’

    They’re hell on hospitals and school buses.

    • Replies: @Talha
  392. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Brazil was Portuguese, not Spanish.

    The Dutch were far worse slave traders than the Spanish ever were and the Dutch treatment of Indonesians including chattel slavery was far worse than the Indians were treated in Spanish possessions.

    After reading your first few posts I could predict everything you’ve ever written. It’s just the conventional half educated N European snobbery and superiority mixed with half assed Marxism poured into your brain in school.
    If only you knew how utterly conventional a N European snob you are despite your library lists.

  393. @Eric Zuesse

    One motivation for an innocuous public embarrassment might be to divert attention from more important suppressed evidence:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/12/mapping-911-fort-lee/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/23/mapping-fort-lee-the-truth-behind-911/

  394. @JessicaR

    It is long overdue (looong overdue) to shine the spotlight on the Jews. They are enablers of the policies of the “Jewish state” and vote for American candidates that voice support for Israel. Probably 95% of world Jewry supports Israel (statistics provided if requested).

    One often hears “when will the peaceful Muslims stand up and condemn terrorism (they have overwhelmingly with almost no media coverage). But the Jews who speak out in opposition to Israel’s policies are a tiny and almost unheard of minority. And they receive virtually no attention in a Jewish dominated media. Indeed it may be said that Jews in the media ignore and hide the truth about Jewish power and influence, even when spoken by other Jews.

    Former NY Times executive editor Max Frankel acknowledged the impact his own pro Israel attitude had on his editorial choices. In his words: “I was much more deeply devoted to Israel than I dared to assert.” He goes on: “Fortified by my knowledge of Israel and my friendships there, I myself wrote most of our Middle East commentaries. As more Arab than Jewish readers recognized, I wrote them from a pro Israel perspective.” -Max Frankel, The Times of My Life And My Life with the Times (NY: Random House, 1999), pp. 401-403.

    I’ll leave you with this quote and it is equally applicable when you substitute ‘American people’ for ‘Palestinian people’: The crime against the Palestinian people is being committed by a Jewish state with Jewish soldiers using weapons displaying Jewish religious symbols, and with the full support and complicity of the overwhelming mass of organised Jews worldwide. But to name Jews as responsible for this crime seems impossible to do. -Paul Eisen (Jewish Director of Deir Yassin Remembered)

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  395. i see the true believers and hasbaras are out from their caves. keep writing about this!

  396. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Wait. ‘Middle East’ covers a lot of territory…

    Where’s PG’s analysis on…

    All roads lead to Tel Aviv, er… wait, make that Jerusalem.

    Don’t give a shit (forgive my language) about Israel.

    Oh, I believe you, Incy. But, just out of curiosity, did you have your fingers crossed when you wrote that?

  397. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @tac

    Excellent!!

  398. @anon

    Ironically…Clark’s father was Jewish…

  399. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    You got me Colin, congrats. Arafat did agree to the Oslo accords which were a framework for an eventual peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. It was at Camp David and later at, I believe Taleb, in Egypt that he rejected the very fair offer made by Ehud Barak. I don’t spend a lot of time on Israeli-Palestinian or Israeli-Arab issues, I actually have a life of my own to worry about, but I’m familiar enough with the issue to know the Israelis have defeated the Palestinians completely and the Arabs are unable, or afraid, to mount any attack. Their only hope is negotiation and the good will of the stronger nation.

  400. @Eric Zuesse

    ‘…the FBI investigation checked the photos (and those were still-shots no video) that the “dancing Israelis” took of the WTC and found that the first in the series was shot after and not before the first plane hit the WTC; so, there was no advance-knowledge they had of the event. …’

    I’m skeptical of your claim. Below is a link to an ABC article — written nine months after the attack. It continues to recount how witnesses saw Israelis filming — as the attacks occurred.

    Surely — given Israel’s influence — if these accounts were inaccurate, mainstream media would have been given the alternate narrative by that point.

    https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1

    Add that at the insistence of the FBI and CIA (again, according to ABC), ‘the five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.’. This doesn’t sound like, ‘oh, you just went out and took pictures afterwards — okay then.’

    It particularly doesn’t sound like it if the five men are agents of our best ally in the Middle East. I think what you’re retailing — probably in all sincerity — is some post-facto clean up. While I don’t buy into ‘the Israelis staged 9/11′ I continue to think the evidence suggests they knew the attack was going to occur, and were there to witness it.

    • Replies: @Eric Zuesse
  401. @Philip Giraldi

    Saying that israel is the ‘homeland’ of the Eastern European jews is like saying..

    America is the ‘homeland’ of the Western European Christians..

  402. @Incitatus

    InZitatus cunningly asked: “KSA. Chuck, why doesn’t PG address that, Bahrain, Kuwait and the others in his crusade for “more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East”? Give us a hint.”
    Hi InZit,
    … Above, uh…, because P.G. goes for the head of the

  403. @Sean

    ‘…I can see that, be it ever so moral, trying to get rid of the baleful influence of Jews by hurting Israel is likely to destroy everything except Jewish diaspora solidarity and grievance against the West.’

    I think you’re being spectacularly disingenuous.

    As it happens, I see no particularly ‘baleful’ Jewish influence except our support for Israel.

    You appear to profess to want Jews in the US gone and Israel still here. I’ve no problem with Jews remaining in the US — but I do want Israel gone.

    ‘…Because the West will suffer a Jewish moral critique onslaught of terrifying proportions if Israel suffers…’

    I’ll risk it.

    • Replies: @Sean
  404. geokat62 says:
    @Eric Zuesse

    …the FBI investigation checked the photos… that the “dancing Israelis” took of the WTC and found that the first in the series was shot after and not before the first plane hit the WTC; so, there was no advance-knowledge they had of the event.

    Um, no. No one ever claimed the “dancing Israelis” took photos BEFORE the first plane hit the WTC. That would be kind of pointless, if you think about it for a moment. No, what was very suspicious was the fact that they took photos and were celebrating BEFORE the second plane hit WTC2. At this point, no one suspected the first plane slamming into WTC1 was a terrorist attack, everyone thought it was an accident. Everyone, that is, except for the Dancing Israelis. Regarding advance knowledge of the event, the Israelis had plenty of it. If you’re truly interested in learning more about this aspect of 9/11, an international lawyer, Gerald Shea, wrote a memorandum

    http://www.antiwar.com/rep2/MemorandumtotheCommissionandSelectCommitteesbold.pdf

    that he submitted to the 9/11 Commission for their consideration. Needless to say, it went nowhere.

    This is the main reason why the FBI closed that investigation: it reached a dead-end, by finding that the reports that said those people had started “filming” the event prior to the attacks were either mistaken or else lying.

    No, the main reason the investigation was closed was that higher ups, like Michael Chertoff, intervened on the Mossad agents behalf and got them released and sent back.

    Unfortunately a lot of sucker still believe those mistakes or lies.

    I guess I’m one of those suckers, no?

    • Replies: @Eric Zuesse
    , @Sam Shama
  405. Yo InZi,
    Fyi, amputated, the last two words of my response to your sophomoric question was: “Philip Giraldi goes for the head of the

  406. APilgrim says:
    @Colin Wright

    Muhammadans are enemies of Western Civilization.

    Muhammadans are incompatible with civilization.

    We just want them all gone, & the details are of no interest.

  407. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    There may have been other reasons [for bombing Serbia].

    There are, indeed. If you read Stephen Sniegoski’s Transparent Cabal, you’ll discover that it was our dearly beloved neocons who pushed for attacking Serbia by setting up the Balkan Action Committee. Prof. Sniegoski clearly articulated their objective:

    The attack on Serbia, ostensibly for humanitarian reasons, provided the intellectual groundwork for the attack on Iraq, since it set the precedent of violating international law’s prohibition against initiating offensive wars.

    As I just mentioned to Incitatus, all roads lead to Jerusalem.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Rurik
  408. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    I’m all aflutter at the idea of being educated at the feet of a master. If the State Department, and the UN and the Trilateral Commission can spare you, I would, and I’m sure everyone else on this sight would also, be honored to finally have the answers only you can provide.

  409. @Ben_C

    @Ben C.
    When debattng and pushing an argumwent,unlike yourself Giraldi uses verifiable fact fiduciary facts and established facts. Hence like most zionist supporterws you follow the same zionist play book . Victim syndrom and lies.
    ONes religion does not make one a semite . Arab semites never left have been their since the beggining of time.
    ZIONISM IS A SUPREMACIST FASCISTIC AND RACIST IDEOLOGY.
    History and facts prove the above.nH
    How many times did the IDF airforce bomb the SAR in the last 7 years,
    Zionist only know how to lie gaslight and obfuscate. and buy influence.
    Look at what they are doing to Jeremy Corbyn
    PUNTO E BASTA.
    POINT MADE

  410. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    They seem to be wanting to take the crown from us and our top spot with weddings.

    Peace.

  411. FKA Max says: • Website
    @L.K

    Cardinal Spellman and by extension the Vatican played an enormously important role in all of this.

    The Holy See and the Postwar Palestine Issue: The Internationalization of Jerusalem and the Protection of the Holy Places
    Silvio Ferrari
    International Affairs (Royal Institute of International Affairs 1944-)
    Vol. 60, No. 2 (Spring, 1984), pp. 261-283

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/2619049?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    [MORE]

    For several years now, I have been campaigning to declare Nov. 29 as the Jewish Thanksgiving Day, a day to give thanks to Lady History and to the many heroic players who stood behind the historic United Nations vote on Nov. 29, 1947, an event that has changed so dramatically the physical, spiritual and political life of every Jew of our time.
    [...]
    Let us thank Cardinal Francis Spellman, head of the Catholic Church in New York City, who, days before the vote, used his personal influence in Latin American countries, urging them to vote yes.

    http://jewishjournal.com/opinion/179834/

    The Vatican wants to control Jerusalem, and that is why they collaborate with the Zionists/Israel Lobby
    [...]
    I also want to emphasize, that in my opinion, and this might come as a surprise to some, the Zionists/Israel Lobby is only the junior partner, in this Zionist-Vatican alliance.
    [...]
    Things looked better at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York. There, at a Beth Israel Hospital anniversary, guests learned that, years earlier, Rabbi Abba Hillel Silver had told Cardinal Francis Spellman of Israel’s efforts to get a seat in the United Nations. To help, Spellman said he would call on South American governments and share with them his fond wish that Israel be admitted. [Archived link]: http://archive.is/9gTh

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501

    The Vatican, American Catholics and the Struggle for Palestine, 1917-1958: A Study of Cold War Roman Catholic Transnationalism

    Through an examination of a comprehensive range of primary materials,
    this study demonstrates that an understanding of the Vatican’s relationship with Zionism and the nascent Israeli state must take into account the transnational Roman Catholic consensus on the future of Palestine, an advocacy led by American Catholics, who represented the leading edge of Vatican attempts to shape the future of Palestine.
    https://ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1501&context=etd

    Draft Letter From the President to Francis Cardinal Spellman, Roman Catholic Archbishop of New York

    https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1949v06/d661

    3. Cardinal Spellman’s letter of April 29 to President Truman described his conversation with these Israeli spokesmen, who had been his dinner guests the previous evening. The guests had spoken of a type of internationalization of Jerusalem quite different from the one the President and the Cardinal had discussed at an earlier but undisclosed date. At that discussion, the letter stated, the President and the Cardinal had envisaged creation of an international enclave under United Nations rule, as decreed by the resolution of the General Assembly on November 29, 1947, and confirmed at the Paris session of the General Assembly in December 1948. The Cardinal expressed himself as being somewhat puzzled, therefore, at the information imparted to him by his guests that the Department of State had suggested to them what the Cardinal termed “a mitigated—so called ‘indirect’—internationalization” under which Jerusalem would be divided into two parts as trusteeships of the United Nations, with Israel and Transjordan as administering authorities.

  412. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    You appear to profess to want Jews in the US gone

    I meant nothing of the kind. I merely alluded to a decline in Jewish diaspora hostility against European majority countries they live in, if Israel was able to make itself what their recently passed law says it is: a Jewish country.

    As it happens, I see no particularly ‘baleful’ Jewish influence except our support for Israel.

    Then your position is perfectly logical as well as completely moral.

    I’ll risk it.

    I can see you say you will take any such risk, and that lets you win the argument.

  413. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Hey Rurik,

    Ibn Issam covered this topic pretty well – not much to add. Really it’s just semantics and definitions. We can both believe that Jews worship the One God (the God of Abraham and all true prophets) while stating that they got the record wrong on Who He is. That is one of the reasons for the final revelation; to clear these things up.

    Islamic doctrine has a very big problem with the idea of a God has some sort of exclusionary relationship to one race or ethnicity – it is a point of contention between us and Judaism.

    I actually find it interesting that when the Qur’an refers to the two times when the Jewish people were punished for committing iniquity, it refers to the Babylonians and the Romans as God’s “servants” (whether they recognized it or not) in those instances:
    “So when came (the) promise (for) the first of the two, We raised against you servants of Ours – those of great military might and they entered the inner most part (of) the homes, and (it) was a promise fulfilled.” (17:5)

    A point to be made about polytheism – it can be very, very tribal. In fact, it is actually projecting upon the Divine one’s own physical image as Xenophanes* noted:
    “The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
    While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
    Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
    And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
    Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape
    Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.”

    The biggest give away to me that Israel was a bizarre enterprise from the beginning was that it is essentially the brainchild of ethno-nationalist Jews that rejected God – the cognitive dissonance is quite amazing. The only equivalent I could think of is a bunch of ex-Muslims trying to revive the caliphate – my “WTF??!!” meter would be on high alert.

    Peace.

    *Credited with being a very early proponent of monotheism, I wouldn’t be surprised if the man was a true prophet.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  414. @Colin Wright

    http://washingtonsblog.com/2017/06/shoddy-alt-news-journalism-boosts-mainstream-journalism-propaganda.html

    links to the completed FBI file, at the point in that article where I wrote:
    “A reader at one of my reports about the Sauds’ role in 9/11, objected to it by citing this very lengthy “The ‘Dancing Israelis’ FBI Report — Debunked”, which was an “Update” dated on 6 April 2015, and therefore was supposedly somehow more up-to-date (by 11 years) than were the FBI’s closing-actions on this case in 2004 and 2005, but which actually was presenting only the 40,000-words that had been in the files of the FBI and local police regarding the “Dancing Israelis” matter during the year it happened, 2001; so, instead of its being 11 years later than (and thus supposedly more comprehensive than) the FBI’s closing-action was, it was 3 years earlier than was the FBI’s closing-action, and this closing-action was based upon lots more than just what was known in 2001 about the matter.”

    In other words: Your saying that “a link to an ABC article — written nine months after the attack” had to have been produced after the FBI’s closing investigations into that matter, during 2004 and 2005, is too stupid to respond to in any other than this blunt way, because for any intelligent person a timeline is the first thing that must be established in any credible historical investigation. 2004 and 2005 were years after what you cited, and those FBI actions were based upon everything, including proof that established the falseness of what you cite as being superior ‘evidence’ to that. Anything to support a bigotry.

    There is lots more in my http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/06/know-sauds-911-attacks.html

  415. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    … it was our dearly beloved neocons who pushed for attacking Serbia by setting up the Balkan Action Committee.

    For those who may not be familiar with BAC membership, Prof. Sniegoski provides a roll call:

    Members of the interventionist Balkan Action Committee, which advocated NATO ground troops for Kosovo, included such prominent neoconservative mainstays as Richard Perle, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Max M. Kampelman, Morton Abramowitz, and Paul Wolfowitz. Other announced proponents of a tougher war included Eliot Cohen, Elliott Abrams, John Bolton, William Kristol, William Kagan, and Norman Podhoretz.

    Any of these names sound familiar?

  416. @geokat62

    See my response at #417.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @geokat62
    , @L.K
  417. @Incitatus

    KSA, motherland of 15 of 19 9/11/01 régime-identified hijackers?

    Are you not embarrassed about writing such blatant nonsense? It could rightly be termed as aiding the real terrorists of 9/11. Shame on you!

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  418. Robjil says:
    @Eric Zuesse

    Solving 911 by Christopher Bollyn names names. He has lots of clues that 911 was Zionist project. After the project was done, Wesley Clark saw a memo from the Pentagon. It said that the US planned to destroy seven nations for the 911 false flag. Why seven and why destroy? Deut. 7.1-2. is where the idea comes from. Yahweh told the Israelites to destroy seven nations.

    https://biblehub.com/context/deuteronomy/7-1.htm

    “      1“When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you, 2and when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. “

    Next the big attacks in the middle east happened on Purim.

    Bush’s attack on Iraq was “the time of our choosing” which was Purim 2003. Zionists masters did the choosing time. At 8pm, on the eve of Purim 2003, Bush ,Zionist puppet president, announced the plan to invade Iraq. Shock and Awe, sounds like Shekinah, the visible presence of Yahweh, a theme of the Old testament. This fits right in with the 500 BC primitive thinkers that rule us. Purim 2003 invasion Iraq totally destroys the country. Millions have died since this destruction. 1991 war on Iraq ended on Purim. 150000 surrendering Iraqi troops were bombed and killed by US forces. Video tapes of this event are shown to US troops as something to “celebrate”. Libya invasion also begins on Purim. What is it about Purim for the Middle east holocaust? Why is the west allowed to mock and make fun of the middle east holocaust? There is no jail time or employment for mocking this Holocaust.

    • Replies: @L.K
  419. @Philip Giraldi

    Philip Giraldi commented: “I have noticed that any critical mention of Israel at TAC has effectively disappeared since I was fired.”

    “Has effectively disappeared” is right, Philip! To underscore that point: Since January 1st of this year Daniel Larison, the foreign policy blogger at TAC, has posted 463 foreign policy articles, but only 11 (2% of the total) have dealt with Israel.

  420. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Jewish interests were crucial to embroiling the United States in World Wars I and II. I fear the same will happen as to World War III.

    The US is, and has been, international Jewry’s weapon. I shall keep my children, and their children, out of life-threatening involvement in these projects. If I succeed in this, they will stay safe and sound … along with their many Jewish contemporary friends, while various suckers and serfs do the fighting and dying. As I did (without dying, fortunately).

    Or at least, I hope I shall (succeed in this).

  421. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @RobinG

    Following the link, I see BOTH announcements that the book is “in stock” and that the book is “out of stock.”

    I guess I read to closely (or much).

  422. @Rich

    I actually have a life of my own to worry about

    Are you suggesting that Colin doesn’t have a life of his own too? You’ve written some 56000+ words commenting here at The Unz Review so why pretend that you couldn’t be bothered? Many commenters are troubled by the immoral treatment of Israel, their so called ally, towards the Palestinians but their main concern is of the disastrous effect that it is having on life in the USA.

    • Replies: @Rich
  423. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    The cruise missiles hitting the buildings were launched from (a) Israeli submarine(s) off New York (under cover of Hurricane Eric). The “collapses” of the buildings, of course, was the effect of demolition charges IN the buildings put there by the (Jewish) lessee of the buildings.

    It’s SO obvious!

  424. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus,

    I am back after the summer hols at the Cape. Short one, couldn’t be helped this time, but chose to stay away from the online world. Trust you are having a nice summer?

    Simians United in principle couldn’t be worse than Citizens United, surely? It would have the added attraction of counting as member, Chuckmeister; unflinching butler and bootboy to the many conspiracies swirling through the halls of UR, chief amongst which are those that readily permit the insertion of capital Zeds. I say ‘readily’ with great care; for it is obvious only to those in his tight circle – need one name names? – the keen task of spotting the aptness of said insertions. Years of observation haven’t dulled the awe one senses upon witnessing yet another display. I knew I missed it, so here I am, happy to draw the animus, honoured to do my duty in aid of the new 501(c)3.

    On a slightly different note, I managed to make it through ‘Babi Yar’, which, heeding your last words of caution, I thought best done with the Cape’s balance of the surf and blue skies close at hand. Good advice.

    P.S. Also watched a rather diverting little film, entitled “The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Society”. A story of a writer in London, 1946, who travels to Guernsey Isles on a literary mission of sorts, closely on the heels of the end of German occupation of Guernsey.

    Best

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @tac
    , @Incitatus
  425. geokat62 says:
    @Eric Zuesse

    See my response at #417.

    If you’re referring to your response at #420, unless I’m missing something, I don’t see anything there that remotely addresses the rebuttals I made against your original post.

    Perhaps you were referring to the contents of the FBI report embedded in one of the links? If so, it is probably worthwhile to contrast that with the contents of the Shea Memorandum.

    Here’s the intro:

    I am an international corporate lawyer, writing to you today about a matter of public policy that is relevant to the circumstances surrounding, and our preparedness for, the catastrophic attacks on September 11, 2001. I do not know whether the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks (the “Commission”) or the Senate and House Committees on Intelligence (the “Committees”) have had the opportunity to consider these issues carefully. If so, I hope this memorandum will be helpful. If not, I respectfully urge them, in accordance with the mandate of the Commission’s charter and in the exercise of the Committees’ responsibilities, to investigate the facts and resolve the questions presented.

    Here’s the Detailed Summary:

    [MORE]

    Set forth below is a detailed summary of the tentative conclusions reached in this memorandum, which amply illustrate the urgent need for a public inquiry into the activities of the Israeli DEA Groups and the Israeli New Jersey Group. The inquiry must include, without limitation, the examination of members of the Israel Groups and related persons; officials of the Israeli government and certain of its agencies, including Mossad; FBI suspects, agents of the DEA, the INS and the FBI; certain local law enforcement officials; agents of the CIA (in camera to the extent required); other intelligence sources cited by the public press to the extent possible; the boxes of documents and computer hard drives (referred on page 29) seized by the FBI from the Israeli New Jersey Group; and of all other relevant documents, reports, communiqués and information.–

    1. The Israeli DEA Groups were spying on the Drug Enforcement Agency and thus upon the United States. The DEA itself has concluded that they were probably engaged in organized intelligence gathering on our soil.

    2. A highly regarded American journal knowledgeable about Israeli affairs, has concluded (a) based on its own sources, that the Israeli DEA Groups were spying on radical Islamic networks suspected of links to Middle East terrorism, and (b) based on the representations of a former American intelligence official regularly briefed on these matters by law enforcement officials, that (i) at least two members of the Israeli New Jersey Group were Mossad operatives, (ii) Urban Moving, the company used by the Israeli New Jersey Group, was a front for Mossad and its operatives, and (iii) the Israeli New Jersey Group was spying on local Arabs.

    3. The intelligence sources of a substantial American television network report that the Israeli DEA Groups may have gathered information about the September 11 attacks in advance, and not shared it with the United States. One investigator said that evidence linking the Israeli DEA Groups to such intelligence gathering was classified and could not be disclosed.

    4. The Israeli DEA Groups were comprised of 125 or more Israelis operating on our soil. Their leaders and apparent associates included military commanders and experts with military backgrounds in intelligence, electronic intercepts and telecommunications.

    5. The wiretapping and intelligence expertise of members of both Israeli Groups, and the use of vans in local neighborhoods where the future hijackers were planning the attacks, and the extensive use by the hijackers of cell phones and land lines, made the Israeli Groups ideally suited to gather information regarding the hijackers’ plans.

    6. The principal operation of the Israeli DEA Groups was located in and around Hollywood, Florida, the central training and staging ground for the hijacking of North and South Tower Planes and the Pennsylvania Plane. The addresses and places of residence of the members of the Israeli DEA Groups in Hollywood itself were within hundreds of yards those of the future hijackers.

    7. The operations of both the Israeli New Jersey Group and the hijackers of the Pentagon Plane were centered in Hudson and Bergen Counties in New Jersey, within a common radius of about six miles.

    8. All five celebrating members of the Israeli New Jersey Group arrested on September 11 were aware, when the North Tower Plane struck the World Trade Center, based on their immediate reaction to the attack and the information said to be contained in their van, that the attack had been planned and carried out by Arab terrorists.

    9. After being questioned by the FBI on September 11, the leader of the Israeli New Jersey Group immediately fled the United States to Israel. His name and aliases appear, along with those of the hijackers and other FBI suspects, on the May 2002 FBI Suspect list.

    10. Israeli intelligence officials have reported that two senior officials of Mossad warned the United States in August 2001 that as many as 200 terrorists on American soil were planning an imminent large-scale attack on high visibility targets on the American mainland. One press report states that in August Mossad provided the CIA with the names of future hijackers Khaled al Mihdhar and Nawaf al Hazmi.

    11. The CIA’s explanation of how Mihdhar’s and Hazmi’s names were placed on the Watchlist through the spontaneous efforts of CIA and FBI agents is not only difficult to follow but, as the sole reason for the Watchlisting, hardly credible.

    12. Mossad’s own information appears to have come from its sources inside the United States. All of the facts and circumstances set forth in this memorandum appear to show that Mossad’s two likely sources of information were: (a) the Israeli DEA Groups, comparable in number to that of the Arab suspects and who appear to have tracked the future hijackers in their central places of operation and in other states, and (b) the Israeli New Jersey Group, operating through their Mossad front in another principal locus of operations of the future hijackers, two of whom were Mossad agents, and five of whom appeared immediately aware of the origin of the attacks on September 11.

    13. While little direct evidence supports the contention that the CIA was aware of or condoned the Israeli Groups’ tracking of Arab terrorist groups in the United States prior to September 11, the CIA’s pressing for the expulsion of members of the Israeli DEA Groups when they were detained before September 11, their failure to cooperate with the FBI, their circuitous explanation of how the above two hijackers were placed on the Watchlist, and other relevant considerations require that the issue be taken up as a part of the public inquiry into these painful events.

    • Replies: @Eric Zuesse
  426. L.K says:
    @FB

    FB(S):”Your logic is unsound on its face…”

    You wouldn’t know logic if it hit you across your pig face!

    Anyway, you obviously got NOTHING.

    Your little rant amounts to a little collection of lies, stupidity, poor taste & cowardice… as only a lowly coward would use the net to repeatedly make jokes about mass rape and murder.

    Keep amusing us, filth… I’m keeping ya as my pet.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  427. Dave K says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    When ww2 ended,Neville Chamberlain told J Kennedy. The Americans and world Jews got us into this war.

    • Replies: @Anon
  428. L.K says:
    @Eric Zuesse

    Why should anybody waste their time on an obvious shyster such as yourself, eric zuesse?

    Your pathetic game is so obvious: your goal is one of misdirection, i.e, to take attention away from the real perps, the Israelis and their agents in the ZUS, by focusing on the Saudis instead.

    Your duplicity knows no bounds.

    Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World

    http://www.bollyn.com/solving-9-11-the-book

    CHRISTOPHER BOLLYN EXPLAINS WITH FACTS WHY AND HOW ISRAEL DID 9-11

    • Replies: @skrik
  429. L.K says:
    @Robjil

    Indeed, Bollyn is the real deal, a very solid investigative journalist who has paid a huge price for having the audacity to tell the truth; Israel & its 5th column perpetrated the 9-11 terror attacks.

    Zuesse is just another disinfo agent…

    Basically we have the mass media and establishment figures propagandizing for the official ZUS government 9-11 conspiracy theory( as you know, there is no evidence to support it) and then there are the disinformation types who have infiltrated the 9-11 truth groups and spread all manner of misdirection, nonsensical notions, and so on, in order to sow confusion…
    Unfortunately, it works.

    The Key Zionist Control Points of 9/11

    http://bollyn.com/#article_16099

  430. @Realist

    the western world is under heavy debt surgery.all the instruments monitoring the operation are in jewish hands.you pull the plug on Nethanyahou & he kills the patient on the intensive care unit.in a couple of decades Israel becomes uncontested superpower Alexander ready to conquer the world.

  431. @Rich

    The Oslo Accords were signed.
    Alas, nothing changed:
    ‘This side of peace’, Hanan Ashrawi, 1995, Simon + Shuster

  432. @Rich

    ‘…Their only hope is negotiation and the good will of the stronger nation…’

    Actually, there’s no hope for Israel; none at all. No conqueror with their profile has ever endured.

  433. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    What, you think Germans were immune to typhus & other disease just because they were German? Especially those who worked within areas of the high disease concentration.
    Laughable. You’re coming unglued.

    entrance to Bergen-Belsen:
    Red Cross verified disease victims of all people in the camps and all through Europe in WWII, especially eastern Europe.
    The Germans own records at Auschwitz recorded German disease deaths and everyone else.
    The Germans used portable delousing vehicles in the field …. because of typhus.

    recommended:
    Typhus and the Jews, by Friedrich Paul Berg : https://codoh.com/library/document/970/?lang=en
    more:

    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=typhus+germans

    BTW, you dodged my challenge to you in comment 279.

    http://www.codoh.com

  434. @The Alarmist

    ‘…The Israeli economy is in better shape than the US economy; they should be giving us aid…’

    Let me know when you run into a tapeworm that thinks much of that argument.

  435. @renfro

    ‘…Yes that day will come ….along with immense damage to the US as Israel goes down…’

    Well, I don’t know. There was a time when South Africa was firmly part of the West. There were a few queries about how they treated their blacks — remind you of anything? — but…

    We all managed to get our skirts well clear before the crash that time. I imagine we’ll do it again with Israel.

    Israel runs about fifty years behind apartheid South Africa. Naturally, such comparisons aren’t exact — but I wouldn’t buy any long-term bonds.

  436. Akbar Ali says:
    @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote, “Since Mohammed himself was illiterate, it would have been all the harder for him to distinguish spurious from authentic texts.”

    Hi Colin, this is a myth perpetuated by the Muslims themselves, that Mohammed was illiterate, jsut like many other myths perpetuated by Muslims regarding Mohammed. It is a very long list of myths but I will give you one more example of myth according to Muslims, that the Prophet used to torture prisoners taken in war and used to put hot iron in their eyes. But the same Muslims, when someone post a cartoon are willing to take life. Go figure!

    The Quran which is complied by Muslims is not in the chronological order. You will find the first four verses revealed to Mohammed in chapter 96. It is my personal opinion that Quran not being in chronological order, it changes the meaning of Quran. Lots of Muslims are not consciously aware that the Quran is not in chronological order of revelation.

    Here is the translation of first four verses revealed to Mohammed from a Wahhabi site. According to Muslim’s belief the Quran addresses Mohammed only, and then to adherents.

    “Recite in the name of your Lord who created – Created man from a clinging substance. Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous – Who taught by the pen.” Chapter 96, verses 1-4

    https://quran.com/96

    The first word of verse 1 is “Iqra”, and like in many languages words have more than one meaning. The above translation intentionally shows Mohammed being illiterate, by translating “Iqra” as “Recite”. Another translation of “Iqra” is “Read”. Now lets us look at the translation again with the word, “Read”.

    “Read in the name of your Lord who created – Created man from a clinging substance. Read, and your Lord is the most Generous – Who taught by the pen.” Chapter 96, verses 1-4

    God commands Mohamed to read, because God taught mankind to write with pen. Read and Write. Unfortunately today, most Muslims are illiterate as the above first four verses revealed to Mohammed are buried in chapter 96.

    There are two Arabic written languages. The first one is old, old Arabic written language, which most of the Arabs know how to write today. So, the old Arabic is the modern Arabic.

    Quran calls Mohammed the “Mother of Language”. The word used in Quran is “Ummi” and “Umm” means, “Mother”. With Quran, Mohammed introduced a new written Arabic language called the “Quranic” or “Classical” Arabic. Not very many Arabs know how to write in Quranic Arabic. This Arabic is taught in Colleges and Universities to linguistic students of Arabic.

    There are lots of hadiths in which we are told Mohammed used to read and write. A very famous hadith which is called, “The Calamity of Thursday” when Mohammed asked for pen and paper on his death bed to write his final will. He was denied by the Muslims.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pen_and_paper

    Akbar Ali

  437. Akbar Ali says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik said, “That as a Muslim, I’d be more inclined to side with the polytheists religion in that case, being as his religion meant that my people aren’t slaughtered, vs. the Jewish supremacist religion that demands otherwise.”

    According to Islam the Jews are polytheists, as they took Aziz for Son of God, just like the Christians took Jesus for Son of God, in both cases the Son being God Himself. But Quran is very clear that in all religions there are people who are monotheists, especially those in Judaisms and Christianity.

    The holy land doesn’t belong to Jews, Christians or Muslims. It belongs to the Palestinians who own the legal titles and deeds. It is the Jews who have made this a religious issue to steal the land.

    Akbar Ali

  438. Akbar Ali says:
    @Ibn Issam

    ibn Issam, “Most Jews and fundamentalist Christians believe the Bible deeds the land to the Jews based on blood lines, and while Muslims can make a case for the land, through the line of Ishmael, the Muslims more inclusively believe that the holy land is for all those people who believe in God (Jews, Christians AND Muslims) this is why, historically, the most peaceful times in the holy land occurred during the times of Muslim rule.”

    I am sorry that as a Muslim, I disagree with your above statement. The land doesn’t belong to any Muslims, Christians or Jews. It belong to those Palestinians who hold the legal title to the deed. It is immaterial if the Palestinians are Jews, Christians, Muslims or Atheists. Those Palestinians own the land who hold the legal title to the deed. Anything else, is land theft by force.

    Islam doesn’t have any holy sites. According to Quran, God is everywhere. The Qibla (direction) is set for all Muslims to pray in one direction. The Kaaba in Mecca used to have idols in them, and according to Quran, Abraham and his son Ishmael cleaned out the idols in there. Again, the Kaaba fell to the idolatrous and Mohammed’s clans both Bani Omayyad and Bani Hashim used to own Kaaba with idols and they were minting money from people for allowing them to worship the idols there.

    So the Qibla (direction) was set to the mosque in Palestine, and when in the end Islam persisted in Mohammed’s final days, the Kaaba was cleaned out and all the idols destroyed, the Qibla was then changed to Kaaba. There is no guarantee from God, that the Kaaba will never fall in the hands of the idolatresses again. And, then what will the Muslims do then, stop praying or agreeing to another Qibla!

    Akbar Ali

  439. Akbar Ali says:
    @Ibn Issam

    ibn Issam wrote, “First I would say that yes, we are talking about one and the same God – TheFather/Jehovah/Lord/God/Elah/Alah//Allah – he has many Names. Keep in mind that it is not God but rather, man who is the author of confusion.”

    I am confused that all the above nouns you quoted are names of God. If God had a name, then He will be my property, rather me being His Property. Even Allah is not the name of God and Allah is a feminine noun. There is no such thing in Arabic as “it”, so all the nouns are either feminine nouns or masculine nouns. Also, for nouns, gender to gender to be match. So, Quran first verse is not Allah is Rahman or Rahim, but Allah is Rahmani and Rahimi, thus matching gender to gender.

    There is no such thing as Jehovah in Old Testament, as it is creation of Christian Padris.

    In Quran God has 99 “Asma”, which in this case doesn’t mean “names” but rather “attributes”. These attributes are for us to know a little bit about Him. Imam Ali cautions us that these 99 attributes should be taken as one and all. They shouldn’t be taken separately as it will divide God, making Him more than One God.

    His two attributes are ‘First” and “Last” and shouldn’t be taken separately. Imam Ali tells us to deny these attributes of God. Is God really, First and Last?

    Saying that God is First and Last is assigning Him, “time”. Is God bound by “time” and “space” or He is the Creator of Time and Space. A Creator cannot be creation. Does God have emotions? Does He love or does He hate? Emotions are creation too. Everything we see is all creation, including the Quran.

    Quran tells us that the Universe was created in two different ways. One ways which we understand and involves time in “Six Periods”. And, other way which involves God, when He says, “Be” and “it is”, thus no time in involved. Everywhere (in all places) it is now for Him, thus giving us the Freewill.

    Akbar Ali

  440. Akbar Ali says:
    @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote, “So exactly how is that Jewry is flourishing and growing? Today, there are only two major centers of Jewry left: Israel and the United States. In the first, you exist in a state of murderous hostility with every single one of your neighbors, and in the second, you’re being assimilated at a rate of about 50% per generation.”

    Excellent Summation. In this age and day of missiles, the Air Force is obsolete. Isreal cannot fight at only one front with Hamas. Imagine, there are six or more fronts. Hamas, PLO, Hezbollah, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, the two sea fronts, all at one time simultaneously raining missile on Israel. No Iron Dome or David Sling can successfully react to such a scenario. Add to this, the unmanned drones from sky.

    And, the two myths, that one Israel has nukes, by now they are obsolete. And, the second myth that Israel has nukes in all its embassies around the world.

    All the high tech military gear supplied to Israel from USA, which can with an online attack be made inoperative by USA itself at the right time.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  441. Talha says:
    @Ibn Issam

    My very sincere advice, based on the advice of my teachers…let it go; there is absolutely zero benefit in turning the conversation into a Sunni-Shiah debate on theological details. Trust me, let it go and do not respond other than to say; jazakAllahu khair for your input. I guarantee nothing positive will come out of it and it will likely piss everyone else off for taking the entire thread off course.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Ibn Issam
  442. Rich says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Wow, you counted every word I’ve ever written here at Mr Unz’ great site? I don’t know if you’re a fan or a stalker, but I’m impressed, both by how prolific I appear to be, and by your counting ability.

    You seem to misunderstand what I’ve written, though, which is either my fault because I didn’t make myself clear, or a reading comprehension problem on your side. The point I was trying to make was that I’m not an expert on the Middle East situation, I spent a short time there when I was in the US Army,but that’s about all. I realize there are a lot of folks out there who know a whole lot more about it than I do. Still, looking at it from where I sit, the Israelis are the victors. They’ve won the land and I don’t see anyone driving them from it in the foreseeable future. The defeated people, in this case the Palestinians, only choice, as I see it, is to accept the terms dictated by the victor. The American Indians had to do it, the Tibetans had to do it and the Irish had to give up the 6 counties up north. As that old Greek said “The strong do what they will, the weak suffer what they must.”

  443. @Sam Shama

    Maven Sam Shama opined: “… so here I am, happy to draw the animus, honoured to do my duty in aid of the new 501(c)3.”
    … Hi Maven Sam the Sham & your crypto-Zionist ally, InZitatus,
    … Very frankly, I don’t give a fuck if Phil Giraldi is profiting from what he writes. In fact, I wish Mr. Giraldi would establish a donation campaign & I guarantee 80 percent of U.R. readers would donate!
    … (zZigh) Giraldi’s U.R. articles get consistent large volumes of comments and readership. Who is upset he is making

  444. @Incitatus

    Hi InZit,
    As you know, the KSA does not have the same political power (influence) as does AIPAC, and if they did, the KSA would have to register as a foreign agent. How many Saudi Arabia as are elected Congressman & Senators have dual citizenship, InZit? As you know, Phil Giraldi wisely goes for the head of the

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Incitatus
  445. @geokat62

    That “#417″ turned out to be published instead as #420.

    Please read http://washingtonsblog.com/2017/06/know-sauds-911-attacks.html
    and then click onto each of the three theories, “Israel” “Iran” “Saudi Arabia” there, and you will see why I am convinced that the royal Saud family, who were led in this operation by Prince Bandar, planned, controlled, and above all else they FINANCED (which is the most incriminating thing of all) the 9/11 attacks. You will also see there that George W. Bush worked with Bandar for this but needed to preserve, and did preserve, deniability of his own involvement. And, of course, Bush and Cheney were working with other Americans, in a larger U.S. aristocratic network, which virtually certainly included Silverstein, who had just purchased the WTC. But the Sauds’ involvement is the most conclusively proven of all the participants, and there is no indication whatsoever, in the actual, courtroom-quality, evidence, that Israel (or that ‘the Jews’) “did” the 9/11 attacks.

    Readers here need especially to see what comes up by clicking there on the “Israel” link, because that’s a decimation of the ‘case’ that Israel (or as anti-Semites, who are addicted to lies, as all racists are, prefer to refer to by “Jews” even though there’s a fundamental conceptual difference between the referents of those two nouns) ’caused’ the 9/11 attacks.

    Israel is disgusting and is an enemy of the American people, just as much as the Saud family are, but readers here seem to be obsessed so much against Israel (and some actually against Jews), as to be, perhaps, incapable of looking at, and into, the evidence regarding particular cases. 9/11 was an inside job by U.S. aristocrats and the Saud family. Israel also benefited from it, as did many others who hadn’t planned, financed, or executed, those attacks. But only the aristocracies of U.S. and Saudi Arabia, and their operatives, actually DID those attacks.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @tac
  446. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    hey took photos and were celebrating BEFORE the second plane hit WTC2. At this point, no one suspected the first plane slamming into WTC1 was a terrorist attack, everyone thought it was an accident.

    This jolly line of argument would have one conclude that everyone both close and distant from the scene [including television companies] caught recording the smoking north tower after the first crash had information about the second hit which took place 18 minutes later.

  447. aulagrrl says:

    Zuesse has done very solid work. The thing that sometimes makes him sound a bit disingenuous is the way he constricts the scope of his discussion. For example, he harps on the single facticule of the timing of the dancing Israelis video – after impact, Q.E.D. Then, when people point out that much more evidence* implicates Mossad agents as CIA cutouts, he harps on the point that FBI cleared certain suspects. Who the fuck believes anything FBI says? Their agency mission is evidence fabrication and suppression. Zuesse is surely not stupid enough to fall for FBI’s public information.

    No one is singling Israel out, by the way. Overwhelming open-source evidence indicates Saudi participation too, at a Sarasota and Los Angeles safe houses, and at Ptech.** But all of it comes back to CIA. Fenton’s Disconnecting the Dots shows that CIA infiltrated and supported the terrorists.

    What is Zuesse’s opinion on the preponderance of 9/11 evidence? People can be ferociously empirical and end up blatantly delusional or dishonest (c.f. Marcy Wheeler.) The question is, what is Zuesse doing with his facts? Attributing internationally wrongful acts in breach of jus cogens, or ruling out suspects?

    * thanks for adducing this memo, by the way:

    https://www.antiwar.com/rep2/MemorandumtotheCommissionandSelectCommitteesbold.pdf

    ** https://whowhatwhy.org/tag/sarasota/

    http://washingtonsblog.com/2016/06/missing-28-pages-raises-directly-issue-u-s-government-complicity-9112001-terrorist-attacks.html

    https://ourworldinbalance.blogspot.com/2005/04/story-of-indira-singh.html

  448. @Philip Giraldi

    I also note that the current TAC readership has changed. Judging from comments on the articles that are posted,

    Sadly, it is now Rod Dreher’s speaking platform and it is sinking precisely due to this fact. Apart from some rare bright spots it is indeed–unreadable anymore.

  449. @Eric Zuesse

    see why I am convinced that the royal Saud family, who were led in this operation by Prince Bandar, planned, controlled, and above all else they FINANCED (which is the most incriminating thing of all) the 9/11 attacks.

    Outside the US, it is pretty much common knowledge among people who follow news.

    • Replies: @Eric Zuesse
    , @gsjackson
  450. Sam Shama says:
    @L.K

    [Keep amusing us...]
    You do sound amused, in a reptilian sort of way that is, hissing and spitting. Do you agree your honesty in admitting to perversions derives rather less from the snakes in your family than the humans who stepped into the reptilian pen?

  451. Rurik says:
    @diverticuli

    than a mega-Geezil like Chertoff?

    I can’t find the written order on line, but over the years, he’s the one they always give credit to.

    Not that it matters, it’s enough that a Zionist Israeli citizen was put in charge of Homeland Security following the attacks on 9/11.

    No conflict of interest there! Eh?

    Also, as someone has mentioned, what a POS to use his government position to demand airports use a device he personally profits from. Their lack of ethics is ‘in your face’.

    ‘Sure, we Zionists perpetrated 9/11 to get you dumb goyim to fight endless wars on our behalf, but do you think we’re not also going to profit off your loss?’

    Lots of symbolism with those nekkid scanners. The cows line up, and ‘moo’ as their prodded though the corrals to their destination. Shekels are collected, and the goyim are psychologically reminded of their place and role in society = all of us Palestinians = terrorists and anti-Semites who must be intimidated and controlled. USA! USA!!

  452. Talha says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Chuck, you OK bro?

    You keep on getting cut out at the last part of your post…

    Peace.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  453. RobinG says:

    The latest issue of ColdType is now out. And it’s free.

    ISRAEL’S WAR ON JEREMY CORBYN http://coldtype.net/Assets18/pdf/ColdType166.MidAugust2018.pdf

    Hysterical propaganda attack exposes deep-seated Zionist fear
    of intense pressure if the Labour Party takes control of UK politics

  454. aulagrrl says:

    Ah. 451 does set out Zuesse’s opinion. This is helpful. Two bits are implausible: (1) that The Aristocracy did it; (2) And that Israel didn’t.

    The Aristocracy did it? How many divisions does the aristocracy have? Who has the capacity to manage an intricate covert criminal operation, coordinating more than 200 agents, and conceal or protect it from multiple independent law enforcement agencies? CIA. Period. And CIA, the sole suspect, to whom all evidence ultimately points, is evidently purposefully interacting with Israeli intelligence. Israeli agents were on these 200 terrorists like white on rice, and they warned CIA with, in effect, LOOK OUT!!! – too late and utterly non-actionable. CIA repaid the favor by working to spirit their Mossad cutouts out of the country: Yedioth Ahronoth reported 10/2/02 that CIA actively promoted expulsion of detained Israeli spies.

  455. @Andrei Martyanov

    This site is inside the United States and is typical of that, in its refusal to hold accountable George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Prince Bandar, the several other Saudi Princes who each donated over a million dollars to Al Qaeda in the lead-up to 9/11, and all other persons whom court-worthy evidence implicates in having planned and funded the operation. That solid evidence is suppressed in the United States, and this site has unfortunately been no exception to that. To the contrary: by its publishing anti-Jewish propaganda, such as Henry Ford’s justifiably notorious screeds that were based upon the hoax “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” this site has been feeding deception of its own readers by its granting of credibility to those proven frauds. Maybe outside the United States it’s known that 9/11 was an inside job that included the royal family of Saudi Arabia, but it’s not known inside the U.S. including at this site.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Robjil
  456. Old Jew says:
    @geokat62

    “Do you hear that, power? Phil is speaking to you… loud and clear.”

    ….and so is my cat.

    …..sorry!…
    I mean geo-cat

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Josecanuc
  457. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    Hey Talha,

    First off, it seems that yes, these conversations have gone in many directions, but not all of it too far off topic I hope. In any case, for the sake of the flow of the thread, I’ll respond to all three of you esteemed fellow Muslims with this post. As I’m grateful to all of you gentlemen for your forbearance and generosity with your theological knowledge and perspective.

    the final revelation

    hmm

    For another time.

    God has some sort of exclusionary relationship to one race or ethnicity – it is a point of contention between us and Judaism.

    well, when your fellow Muslims are being slaughtered, as they were recently in Palestine, calling the divide a ‘point of contention’, is very diplomatic of you Talha.

    Perhaps I can just put it all down to the Zionists are not practicing God’s will, as revealed by any recognized source. But have subverted the will of God to their own murderous and genocidal racial supremacist agenda. And so those Zionists who’re invoking the Word of God as their pretext for theft and murder, are not being true to the Jewish God.

    There’s another thing that sticks in my craw, vis-a-vis the Jewish God and the Muslim God.

    A guy I know once tried to get me to join the Masonic lodge. He gave me a book on it and encouraged me to come to a meeting. I read most of the book, but wasn’t impressed. The Masons also seem to also have a Jewish martyr as their ‘holy’ man. So I was sort of put off by that.

    But the point is that the guy said that in order to be a Mason, you had to believe in God. He said it didn’t matter if you were Christian or Jewish, simply that you believed in God. I asked him what about Muslims, and he said ‘sure, Muslims too’. But there was something about the way he said it.

    So then I noticed one of those Shriner’s ‘hats’ on a shelf, and I asked him, ‘aren’t those silly hats and the little cars sort of a way of poking fun at Islam?’ And his answer was to kind make a wry smile, and sort say ‘well no.. it’s really all just about having fun, and we do great charity work!’

    But the feeling I got was that they really are all about mocking Islam. So that’s just one more little anecdote about how Muslims and Jews worship the same God. I sort of don’t see it in the real world, all cryptic minutia in the religious texts and scrolls about Abrahamic’, notwithstanding.

    “The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black,
    While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair.
    Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw,
    And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods
    Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape
    Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own.”

    Reminds me of Suda

    As you know, I have a more secular view of life, and I consider the higher animals as also imbued with the holy spirit, at least insofar as man is. At least I figure that if you believe that animals are entitled to respect and even dignity, then I wonder if you’d be all the more likely to offer such grace to your fellow man as well, regardless of their religion, or lack there of. (ranting, I know ; )

    But it’s a great and insightful poem. Thank you.

    ex-Muslims trying to revive the caliphate – my “WTF??!!”

    well, from what you’ve said about Daesh, it doesn’t sound to me like they were practicing Muslims, at least as far as the interpretations of Islam I’ve glimmered from you, Sir.

    Thank all of you for your responses to my sincere queries.

    I understand and would agree with the opinion that Muslims may reject polytheism (or pantheism or atheism, or in my case, agnosticism), but might make alliances for the purpose of survival, (perhaps not personal survival, but for the survival of your people under an immediate threat)

    And I also agree (wholeheartedly!) with the wise counsel that the land of Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, regardless of religion or lack there of. It is my very firm belief that a man saying his god gave him your land and house, so get out, or else – has led to so many horrors that I can’t even begin to comprehend.

    If humanity could just agree on that simple tenet, that God isn’t a real estate agent, and that no valid God in heaven or earth commands his faithful to murder and genocide and steal the land and property of others. – I feel that would be a great step towards ending the hatred, strife and misery that engulfs the planet today under a Zionist, Jewish supremacist jackboot of terror.

    So that’s my personal perspective.

    Thank you all again.

    Salaam.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Talha
    , @Ibn Issam
  458. aulagrrl says:

    Now this is interesting. Zuesse justifies ignoring CIA’s role with a fallacious slogan, “The U.S. regime cannot go to war against itself.” The U.S. regime did not attack itself, it attacked the domestic civilian population.

    This odd bit of hand-waving shows an awfully non-historical viewpoint, for a historian. Has Zuesse never heard of Gladio or the strategy of tension? State terror to justify repression is a documented instrument of CIA. It’s the first recipe in their cookbook, with a history that dates back to Dulles and Lansdale’s staged Huk atrocities in the Philippines.

    Under pretext of defending upstanding Jews, Zuesse appears to be diverting our attention from CIA.

  459. @Talha

    Am okay, at least I think such is the case, Brother Talha, & thanks! Essentially, what I want to tell InZitatus is a fact he already knows. It is: Philip Giraldi goes after the head of the

  460. Rurik says:
    @anarchyst

    Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    I agree!

    I also agree with your entire post.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    There has been some encouraging developments.

    Andrew McCabe, Peter Strozk, now John Brennan. All publically humiliated.

    These scum were apparatchiks of the Deepstate, and figured their positions as enablers of the Fiend were secure.

    Last night on Tucker Carlson, (perhaps the last voice of sanity on the controlled media), the talk was of an cabal of ‘Intelligence agencies that had ignored the “Russian” threat, (if there was one) during the election campaign, but then did all they could to subvert the American people’s will once our votes had been tallied.

    Talk about treason!

    And it isn’t going away. At least as long as Murdoch and sons own Fox.

    I know Murdoch is an uber-Zionist, so I don’t get my hopes up too high, but watching Tucker night after night (the only news program I can stand) say things like, ‘Holy smokes, this whole town! is occupied of foreign interests lobbying and trying to interfere in the democratic process- that to blame Russia for a few Facebook posts is beyond absurd’.

    One comes away knowing that Tucker understands which foreign nation is really behind the subversion of our republic, but alas, even he is verboten from saying it out loud.

    Rupert Murdoch is after all, on the Strategic Board of Genie Energy.

    Cheers.

  461. tac says:
    @Eric Zuesse

    So you would have us believe that as soon as the plane hit the WTC I, these ‘dancing Israelis’ were just sitting around in the place of work, hear a ‘crash’, IMMEDIATELY had at their disposal cameras, then jumped into a company van (without prior approval from supervisors), sped thru (New York rush hour–right before 9AM) avoid all the congested traffic where presumably at least some innocent motorists would have stopped to witness the event–creating more of a backup in traffic, park at the destination, setup the cameras on top of the van and start their ‘documentation of the event’–ALL WITHIN 5 MINUTES??!!

    …the fact that the Israelis were seen at Doric within five minutes of the first plane crash. The 1010 WINS program was interrupted at 08:50:39 for breaking news, and the announcement “a plane has crashed into the World Trade Center” was completed by 08:50:52, which is 4 minutes 22 seconds after the first crash at 08:46:30. The witness who saw the Israelis high-fiving, “horsing around”, smiling, hugging each other and looking jovial but not at all shocked, was listening to WINS and did not hear anything about the WTC before she went to look outside. That’s corroborated by the fact that she was prompted by the telephone call from her friend who’d heard a “strange noise” (almost certainly the impact or the roar of the plane), and who’d looked outside to see a “small cloud of smoke rising from one of the towers”, before “immediately” phoning the witness. The FBI report also states that “According to T-1, it was the call from T-2, who is T-1′s neighbor and close friend, which initially prompted T-1 to look out of the window towards the WTC. It was at that time that T-1 had also observed the Israelis atop the white van.”

    Thus, the physical impossibility of the Israelis learning of the event, deciding to take time off work, grabbing their cameras, running out to take their employer’s van for personal use, making a 4 to 5-minute drive from Weehawken to the Doric apartment block in Union City in the rush hour, parking up and climbing onto the van roof with their cameras, etc. – all in less than 5 minutes! – is further confirmed.
    [...]
    As will be shown, this FBI ‘investigation’ is very similar to the NIST ‘investigations’ into the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings collapses, in that the conclusion is politically motivated rather than evidence-based. Section 5 even reveals how the FBI’s NS-2C Unit of its “National Security Division” based at FBI Headquarters, Washington, D.C., ordered FBI Newark to stop their investigation of the Israelis.

    The documents were partly declassified in 2005. However, there are many parts that are still blanked out and classified until 2030 or 2035. Apart from names of individuals, the unreleased material includes longer passages such as the section following the question: “1. Did the Israeli nationals have foreknowledge of the events at WTC and were they filming the events prior to and in anticipation of the explosion?” The fact that it’s blanked out indicates that the answer is clearly not an emphatic “no”

    http://www.takeourworldback.com/dancingisraelisfbireport.htm


    • 8:46 am
    – Mohammed Atta and the other hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 11 crash the plane into floors 93-99 of the North Tower of the World Trade Center, killing everyone on board and hundreds inside the building.

    https://www.history.com/topics/9-11-timeline

    • Replies: @APilgrim
    , @Eric Zuesse
  462. Rurik says:
    @Eric Zuesse

    9/11 was an inside job that included the royal family of Saudi Arabia

    deflect much?

    9/11 was a combined Mossad / CIA operation with cooperation from the Pentagon, White House, FBI and all the other organs of the Deepstate, including of course the controlled media. Duh.

    The owner of the towers, a one Larry Silberstein did not speak on the phone weekly with Prince Bandar, but with his good buddy Netanyahu.

    For a quick delve into the actors behind 9/11, check out a one rabbi Dov Zakheim

    Israeli citizen

    Comptroller of the Pentagon when over two trillion went missing. (that’s with a T )

    Member of – ‘a new Pearl Harbor like event’ – PNAC

    also Council on Foreign Relations (of course ; )

    Zakheim was also CEO of System Planning Corporation. offering remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane.

    there’s much, much more…

  463. Akbar Ali says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik said, “If humanity could just agree on that simple tenet, that God isn’t a real estate agent, and that no valid God in heaven or earth commands his faithful to murder and genocide and steal the land and property of others.”

    I wholeheartedly agree with the above. And, God is beyond getting involved in the petty fights of imbecile mankind. He doesn’t take side in our stupid fights.

    However, the central theme of the Quran is that men is an oppressor. He/she oppresses everyone around them. It could be father, mother, son, husband, wife, daughter and so forth. Or someone in real power. Those who control their oppression of others are on the Right Path.

    Power corrupts….

    Akbar Ali

  464. @Rurik

    Rurik wisely observed: “Andrew McCabe, Peter Strozk, now John Brennan. All publically humiliated. These scum were apparatchiks of the Deepstate, and figured their positions as enablers of the Fiend were secure.”
    Hi Brother Rurik,
    Agree on existence of a “fiendish” Deepstate! Taking off from there, only a theatrical Shallowstate exists to deceive & entertain ZUS subjects who cling to an idea that they have a “say” & are empowered to stop Israel from screwing them.
    … (zZigh) “Apparatchik” Brennan was expendable & he now lives unaccountably like Midas. Thanks!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  465. Robjil says:
    @Eric Zuesse

    This site is not an anti-Half Italian site.

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/07/20/the-uncanny-ari/

    It is an anti-criminal site.

    A criminal is a criminal is a criminal.

    No one is above the law.

    Christopher Bollyn names names in Solving 911.

  466. Old Jew says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Mr. Giraldi,

    By what miraculous power do you know what is “the USA National Interest”?

    Why is your opinion better than mine?

    Nobody has elected you.

    Nevertheless you claim that the elected representatives are corrupt.

    But you Ph. Giraldi are the only “white knight in shining armor”.

    • Replies: @Notanisraeli
  467. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    The attack on Serbia, ostensibly for humanitarian reasons, provided the intellectual groundwork for the attack on Iraq, since it set the precedent of violating international law’s prohibition against initiating offensive wars.

    I remember at the time wondering why no one seemed to care that the unprovoked attack on Serbia ended all norms and tenets of International Law that had been codified since Nuremburg.

    Where, I wondered, are the voices of sane international law experts?

    Where are the diplomats and statesmen decrying that unilateral aggression against a defenseless nation?

    And then it turns out that the KLA was nothing but a pack of human and narcotics traffickers to boot!

    And then the lynching of Milosevic, that they’ve even now admitted was a farce. They murdered that man because he humiliated them in their kangaroo court room.

    But no one in the West even seemed to notice.

    So yea, what you’re pointing out is also along the lines of what (occasional Unz contributor) Kiza also said, that the bombing of Serbia set in motion the dominoes that would fall under the Fiend’s march across the planet, destroying nation after nation considered inconvenient to Israel’s expansion.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  468. APilgrim says:
    @tac

    The only ‘Dancing-Israelis’ on 911, were all Fvcking Muhammadans. None of the Israeli Jews or Israeli Christians celebrated on that day.

    ANTIFA & BLM Funders George Soros & Tom Steyer are not Israelis.

    They are also, not much in the way of Jews. Just renegade arsewipes. IMHPO

    • Replies: @tac
  469. The state of Israel is a pariah. It sucks money from America as if it were going out of style. The only way to put a dent in its voracious stripping of America’s treasury is to hold those legislators who fawn over Israel responsible, to put the question to each one publicly, “are you an American or are you an Israeli, how do you rationalize voting for something which is beneficial to Israel but detrimental to the US?” Place each one of them on the hot seat. You will see the holy rollers squirm in their seats because they to are traitors to their own country, but it has to be done to truly be free of the malign influence of Israel!

    • Agree: Z-man, anarchyst
  470. skrik says:
    @L.K

    Why should anybody waste their time on an obvious shyster

    G’day, you are correct; looks very much like Zuesse has killed his own credibility stone dead.

    Some say: “one cannot prove a negative,” [one generally can, just sometimes it's 'complicated'], but that’s what any person who accepts the ‘standard narrative’ on 9/11 *must* do [to maintain their own personal integrity, at least]; and it’s this negative posit:

    That WTC7 was *not* control-demolished.

    UNLESS that negative posit can ‘somehow’ be proven [so far obviously not], THEN all ‘the rest’ follows = inside job = false-flag black psyop, originating within the US/Z rogue-regime complex [plus, any possible Saudi role would have been only as 'patsy'].

    As an aid to any still not ‘on-board’ with WTC7 free fall collapse etc., I offer two videos:

    Now, those are actual videos of what happened, with informed commentary.

    IF you, dear reader, are not convinced of a) the videos’ veracity and b) the accuracy of the commentary and c) the conclusions drawn, THEN I bid you good day. For those still ‘with us,’ this:

    1. It does *not* matter who, indeed if any, alleged hijackers were or were not, nor who may have recruited, paid for and/or trained any such to do any what. Proof: *NO* [Islamic, Arab etc.] hijacker could ever have pre-loaded WTCs 1, 2 & 7 with explosives.

    2. It does *not* matter what if anything hit WTCs 1 & 2 or the Pentagon, nor whatever happened vis-à-vis that much photographed hole in some Pennsylvanian field. Proof: Control-demolition means that all non-demolition ‘externals’ were only Hollywood-style ‘window dressing.’

    Then, one simply cannot ‘convince’ anyone of closed mind to accept the truth. This is *especially* so with believers in alleged supernatural deities, but secondarily all those who uncritically abide by ‘my country/tribe right or [most often] wrong’ – and believe what the corrupt&venal MSM tells them. rgds

  471. @Rurik

    Brother Rurik wrote: “One comes away knowing that Tucker understands which foreign nation is really behind the subversion of our republic.., but alas, even he is verboten from saying it out loud.”
    (Zigh) Need one be told that Tucker Carlson’s employer Fox News is a key voice of the Jewish Corporate Media, and a key Ministry of the “Deepstate”?
    … Maybe at maximum 50 percent of ZUS subjects understand Israel is behind the subversion of “our (misnomer) republic,”
    and the Deepstate Jews & fellow travelers have no fear of any criminal misdeeds coming out into the public-controlled “open.” Tucker does what he does because it’s permitted, encouraged, & he’s handsomely paid!
    … In short, Rurik, the evil is in-the-open & regrettably, it’s Alfred E. Neumann time for elite ZUS Jews, “What me worry?”

  472. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    calling the divide a ‘point of contention’, is very diplomatic of you Talha.

    LOL – thanks Rurik. Yes, the thing is, I cannot see the centuries long relationship between Jews and Muslims (sometimes friendly, sometimes combative, etc.) and simply have it colored only by the events of the last century.

    The masons are kind of weird and certainly incorporate a lot of strange imagery while incorporating a lot of Islamic symbolism. I used to live not too far away from this golf club a while back (full with a “Lake Khadijah”:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medinah_Country_Club

    Daesh, it doesn’t sound to me like they were practicing Muslims, at least as far as the interpretations of Islam I’ve glimmered from you, Sir.

    Daesh were basically neo-Khawarij. The thing about the Khawarij is their tell-tale sign – they are extremists and cannot stand anyone disagreeing with them. The weird thing is, they might even outwardly have the trappings of religion better than your normal Muslim:
    “I said to Abu Sa’eed Khudri: ‘Did you hear the Messenger of Allah mention anything about the Haruriyyah (a sect of Khawarij)?’ He said: ‘I heard him mention a people who would appear to be devoted worshippers: “Such that anyone of you would regard his own prayer and fasting as insignificant when compared to theirs. But they will pass through Islam like an arrow passing through its target, then he (the archer) picks up his arrow and looks at its iron head but does not see anything, then he looks at the shaft and does not see anything, then he looks at the band: that which is wrapped around the iron head where it is connected to the shaft, then he looks at the feather and is not sure whether he sees anything or not.” – reported in Ibn Majah

    They are known by their unmitigated harshness and brutality – their hearts are hard and they love to quarrel.

    I like that central simple tenet you outline and agree with it. And I would hope in our day and age, we can ask all nations to abide by the legal processes of the UN to help mitigate conflict, especially in our age where there is so much more potential for slaughter and destruction.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  473. @jacques sheete

    The US–”America”–is without question the most evil entity on earth since the British empire Israel excepted. And the “American” public is without question the most stupid, ignorant, miserably apathetic and brainwashed public of the Western world. A more revolting and despicably self-satisfied and decadent public imbecility has seldom existed since the times of the British empire. Both are exceeded in evil, however, by their masters the Zionists–the precursors of the reign of antichrist.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  474. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymouse

    whats the name of the country that sucked Europeans in America? Whats the name of the country that supplied arms money and political support to establish USA? Whats the name of the country that saved America from Depression ?
    Whats the country that stands between American survival and demise as a functioning state?

  475. j2 says:
    @FB

    FB writes: “And where pray tell did you get data on camp daily portions…?…Stormfront…?
    What a laughable idiot…”

    I did not need to find it, it was a question in Quora. At that time I wrote answers to those questions, but I wrote a couple of less idiotic answers on Kabbalah and then got all deep questions of Judaism to me to be answered, well, I am no expert on that, so I stopped my account in Quora and removed all my answers. Anyway, the question was why was it 1300 calories and not less, I checked from some site and it was also there claimed 1300 calories for those who did not work.

    Here is the quora question:

    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Nazis-in-concentration-camps-feed-the-Jews-1300-calories-per-day-and-not-less

    Finland conquered a part of Karelia and there were also concentration camps and POW camps (no gassings). Finns gave 2100 calories per day to POWs. It is not big for grown up men who had to work, but for sure it was calculated. So, take

    https://www.freedieting.com/calorie-calculator

    Put in years 30, male, weight 65 kg, height 165 cm, little exercise, you get 2100 calories, so it should have been sufficient, but there was hunger in the camps.

    To get this 1300, put to the calculator basic metabolic rate (=the lowest calorie intake not to lose weight), age 40, men weight 65 kg, height 165 cm, you get 1486 calories, then women age 40, weight 50 kg, height 155 cm, you get 1108 calories, then average, it is 1300 calories. This should be sufficient, but there was hunger also on those camps.

    What exactly is laughable here?

    • Replies: @FB
  476. APilgrim says:

    I have traveled in Israel & the Palestinian Authority.

    Israel is: open, clean, free, helpful, friendly, & safe for Christians, Agnostics & Atheists.

    The Palestinian Authority is none of the above. I despise Muhammadans.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @anon
  477. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Talha wrote, “Daesh were basically neo-Khawarij. The thing about the Khawarij is their tell-tale sign – they are extremists and cannot stand anyone disagreeing with them. The weird thing is, they might even outwardly have the trappings of religion better than your normal Muslim”

    Sorry, to disagree with you. The Khawarij are the Bani Omayyad, and their children the Wahhabi. The clan of Bani Omayyad and their chief abu Sufyan never forgave Mohammad for taking their money minting Kaaba from both the Omayyad and Hashim clans and destroying the idols.

    Cousins and uncles of Mohammad.

    abu Sufyan’s son Muawiya couldn’t stand the caliphate of Ali. He revolted against Ali and created the Omayyad dynasty as caliphate. Muawiya son Yazid (the grandson of abu Sufyan) butchered the grandson of Mohammad and his clans. Yazid took a stick and started to beat the decapitated head of grandson of Mohammad, saying this kingdom belongs to us and not to your grandfather Mohammad.

    It is become very fashionable to blame everything on Khawarij, rather than the theology of ……

    Turkey was the caliphate for all Muslims, now these Muslims are against caliphate because they don’t want to give up their individual thrones in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Egypt, Jordon and so forth.

    Suddenly, the crappy caliphate is out of fashion….. Crappy caliphate only requires one to take some land by force and call oneself a caliph.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Akbar Ali
    , @Robjil
  478. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Thanks Akbar, appreciate your feedback.

    Wa salaam.

  479. @Old Jew

    “By what miraculous power do you know what is “the USA National Interest”?

    By human normalcy and by intelligence. Apparently you have difficulty in recognizing either one. “Know thyself,” Old Jew.

  480. Sam Shama says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    I was sort of thinking about your first sentence here. Couldn’t but recall the title of the piece which seemed to put a final definition on your basic premise. Wasn’t it something like: America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars?

  481. Art says:
    @Art

    It appears that Eric Zuesse (Jew apologist) is on a mission to divert attention away from Israel on 9/11.

    There are too many unanswered questions. No one really believes the US government story. The “stupid conspiracy nuts” argument is no longer getting the job done. Therefore, he is shacking his accusatory finger at Saudi Araba.

    Oh my’ – poor Saudi – it is crazy silly Talmudist time again. Other Jews are sucking up to the Saudi royals (Kushner/Trump).

    Hmm – all this Talmudist attention cannot be good for Saudi Araba. The Jews have no friends.

    Here is my favorite 9/11 scenario. It is the most complete story that I have seen.

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Art

  482. Ibn Issam says:
    @Talha

    Your teacher sounds like a very wise man!

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  483. FB says:
    @j2

    What exactly is laughable here?

    You answered the question yourself…

    ‘Anyway, the question was why was it 1300 calories and not less, I checked from some site and it was also there claimed 1300 calories for those who did not work.’

    I guess you don’t realize that getting info from ‘some site’ is not exactly the same as first hand evidence of millions of Soviet POWs and other slave laborers starved to death…uncovered as the Nazi dirtbags were running like rats…

    ‘Daniel Goldhagen, Hitler’s Willing Executioners (pg. 290) — “2.8 million young, healthy Soviet POWs” killed by the Germans, “mainly by starvation … in less than eight months” of 1941–42, before “the decimation of Soviet POWs … was stopped” and the Germans “began to use them as laborers.”

    And I guess in your fantastic web travels you never came across The Hunger Plan…

    The Hunger Plan (German: der Hungerplan; der Backe-Plan) was a plan developed by Nazi Germany during World War II to seize food from the Soviet Union and give it to German soldiers and civilians; the plan entailed the death by starvation of millions of so-called “racially inferior” Slavs following Operation Barbarossa, the 1941 invasion of the Soviet Union.

    The premise behind the Hunger Plan was that Germany was not self-sufficient in food supplies, and to sustain the war and keep up the domestic morale it needed to obtain the food from conquered lands at any cost. It was an engineered famine, planned and implemented as an act of policy.

    I find it hard to believe that fantastic idiots such as yourself have even survived to adulthood…surely one would surmise such a spectacular moron would have perished by way of the Darwin Award…

    • Replies: @j2
  484. @tac

    Just read the FBI file, up to and at the time they closed the case.

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @tac
    , @FB
  485. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Suddenly, Islam become money making milking machine. Take your sword in the name of Islam and conquer the world. Those whom you conquer if they become Muslims, have to pay 2.5% tax. Those Jews and Christians who didn’t want to convert have to pay 10.0% tax. Others, their head has to be chopped off.

    It started while the body of Mohammad was still warm and not buried yet. The third caliph who was from Bani Omayyad ruled for 17 years, had the coffers filled with money. His caliphate started 10 years after the demise of Mohammad and lasted 27 years after the demise of Mohammad. Palaces were built, and nepotism was rampart. Eventually, the troops becomes disgruntled, because of constant wars and lack of basic needs. So, they murdered the third caliph and didn’t allow his body to be buried for several days. They couldn’t find 4 willing individuals to carry the coffin.

    This is the history of Islam, which people don’t want to discuss…..

    Akbar Ali

  486. tac says:
    @APilgrim

    Whether they danced or not is irreverent to my point. How did they (the Israelis, two of whom where MOSSAD AGENTS) get to the scene (fully prepared to document) in under five minutes in order to start ‘documenting the events’?

  487. Robjil says:
    @Akbar Ali

    The oneness of God is a good concept. It is up in the sky though. A down to earth idea is sorely needed,God as one, two Gods, three Gods or a billion Gods all would rather humans got along to make a great planet Earth together with the idea of the oneness of humanity and the love and the respect for all humans on earth. One god, two gods, three gods, a billion gods are all OK if one accepts the oneness of the humanity and the love and the respect for all. Zionism is One God for the Z elite only. It is destroying our planet faster than Climate Change. Aldous Huxley said that humans (Z Elite, perhaps) are a wild species that needs to be tamed by an alien species. All us non- Z Elite alien species need to tame the Wild Z Elite to respect and love all of humanity. Unz site is a great Z Elite tamer site. It is a rare place on our planet where talking about taming of the Z Elite is happening in real time.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  488. @Sam Shama

    Indeed it was Sam – true then and true now!

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  489. Akbar Ali says:
    @Ibn Issam

    ibn Issam said, “Your teacher sounds like a very wise man!”

    It has nothing to do with the teacher. It has to do with Islamic history and spreading Islam by sword for money. Though some people like to sweep this under the carpet in the disguise of schism. This is intentionally done to stop the discussion of true history of Islam.

    The central recurring theme of Quran is that man is an oppressor. Whoever is in power oppresses the others. This is the history of mankind…

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Ibn Issam
  490. @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam the Sham & the Neocon-Pharaohs,
    … You are too funny today! Apparently you did not even read P.G.’s actual 1st sentence corresponding to this latest great article! Get on the matso ball! (zZigh) Fyi, following is his first sentence: “I am often asked why I have this “thing” about Israel, with friends suggesting that I would be much more respected as a pundit if I were to instead concentrate on national security and political corruption.”
    … Ideally, selah, Philip Giraldi persists ignoring you & sidekick, InZitatus!

  491. Sam Shama says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    So the statement, ‘ I never say “all Jews” or even “most Jews” ‘ means what exactly? A literary device?

  492. Ibn Issam says:
    @Rurik

    You sound like an intelligent and reflective person, I am sure we can find a lot to agree on! When I was younger I had some similar questions as you have now. Over time, I found that Islam provides rational and reasonable answers to many of these types of questions and concerns. I encourage you to go to a mosque and speak to an Imam or find an informed Muslim friend who can help you to better understand the Islamic perspective. May Allah Guide you, Salaam!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  493. APilgrim says:
    @Notanisraeli

    I don’t like the BRITS, and the BRITS have been screwing the USA for the last 25 years.

    I am somewhat wary of Jews, in the USA, Abroad & in Israel.

    But the BRITS, & Israelis, on their worst day, are mentally & morally superior to any pack of Muhammadans who ever lived. No contest.

    • Replies: @Notanisraeli
  494. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “Apparatchik” Brennan was expendable

    Yes Brother Chuck,

    but I’m sure he never saw it that way!

    We can take our small pleasures where ever we find them, no?

    watching these smug assholes get humiliated in public is a delectable treat!

    I only hope he’s indicted and prosecuted and sent to federal prison.

    You’re right about not being able to defeat the Fiend, at least in this life, but seeing the minions of the Fiend getting eviscerated by Trump, is a rare and wondrous pleasure I never thought I’d ever experience.

    Thanks!

  495. Art says:
    @APilgrim

    The Palestinian Authority is none of the above. I despise Muhammadans.

    Please — Why can’t Old Jew, Sam, Zuesse, and Incitatus be more like APilgrim.

    APilgrim is so honest – he openly declares his hate – those others just lie and lie and lie. We all know they hate us – we all know they look down on us for being foolishly good hearted and honest.

    Look at them pound their chests like silverback gorillas, as we watch a video of a 15 year old Palestinian girl being shoot and left to die by their hero IDF protectors.

    Can a Jew say sorry?

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. Maybe APilgrim is not a Jew?

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  496. @Sam Shama

    Hi Maven Sam,
    … Below is linked Brother Nathaneal’s latest video. His first words are, “Brzezinki’s long gone but his legacy lingers on!”

    … A cordial suggestion. Why don’t you ask The Brother to “put a final definition on his premise?”
    … Selah, W.B. Yeat’s “Second Coming” and then, selah…, a real Grand Upheaval.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  497. @Eric Zuesse

    Zuesse lamely wrote: “Just read the FBI file, up to and at the time they closed the case.”
    Hey Eric,
    Fyi, since a real investigation as to i.d.-ing who did 9/11 was intentionally passed-over, never happened, the FBI’s “closed” case remains criminal & the diabolical False Flag attack(s) are actually “open cases.” (zzZigh) Can you offer any veritable ZUS D.O.J.-evidence that A-rab hijackers crashed into Twin Towers & brought them all rapidly down, plus one, to pancake? (Zigh) Take temporary comfort! With lots of uptown & lying company, you are not the only comfortable controlled-one, Zuesse.

  498. @APilgrim

    I strongly disagree. Firstly, the correct term here is Muslims, not Muhammadans. Secondly, do you have much experience with Muslims either here or abroad? At any rate, I find this kind of sophomoric and ugly generalization of one’s prejudice and subjectivism highly distasteful and frankly “mentally & morally” inferior, to put it mildly.

  499. tac says:
    @Eric Zuesse

    And just like with ISIS and the moderate rebels (part of the funding is by KSA) along with providing the ‘hit men’ of mostly Arab descent. Surely you are no suggesting that the Israelis are idiots (as to not try and implicate themselves in the plan–think of all the false-flags that ARE attributed to the Israelis throughout the years! Indeed it suggests they where the the mastermind initiating/planning/driving the plan (including having plausible deniability!) when the totality of information is put into context.

    CUI BONO (seven countries in five years,,,Ukraine)?…..KSA? (marginally), USA{CIA}? (marginally & some financially, Patriot Act passed), Israel? (completely & financially)! Certainly Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice,,,and other shabbos goy are to blame, but they were not the instigators. Who then?

    Who authored PNAC, Who authored ‘The Clean Break’, ‘A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties’ (aka Oded Yinon Plan), Who were the leading figures of the Office of Special Plans (OSP), who controlled access/security/ownership stake @ WTC , who was comptroller of Pentagon, who where the leading figures in the cover-up/911 commission, who was behind the anthrax attacks,,,???

    “After Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit to the United States (see July 8-10, 1996), US neoconservatives mount an orchestrated push for war against Iraq and an overall reshaping of the Middle East (see July 8, 1996). At first, the offensive takes place in the pages of US newspapers and magazines. William Kristol and Robert Kagan write articles for the magazines Foreign Policy and the Weekly Standard; syndicated columnists Charles Krauthammer and A. M. Rosenthal use their columns to push the idea; Zalmay Khalilzad and Paul Wolfowitz pen op-eds for the Washington Post; “Clean Break” co-author David Wurmser writes op-eds for the Wall Street Journal and publishes a book, Tyranny’s Ally, in which he proposes that the US use its military to literally redraw the map of the Middle East (see Late Summer 1996). Neoconservatives are transforming Christian evangelicals’ argument that Americans are God’s “chosen people” into secular terms, and argue in their op-eds and articles that it is, in author Craig Unger’s words, the US’s “moral duty to project that greatness throughout the world—using American military power, if necessary.” [Unger, 2007, pp. 148-149]
    Entity Tags: Robert Kagan, A. M. Rosenthal, Benjamin Netanyahu, David Wurmser, Charles Krauthammer, William Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz, Zalmay M. Khalilzad”

    “Neoconservative Douglas Feith writes a position paper entitled “A Strategy for Israel.” Feith proposes that Israel re-occupy “the areas under Palestinian Authority control” even though “the price in blood would be high.” [Commentary, 9/1997; American Conservative, 3/24/2003; In These Times, 3/13/2007] Feith is the co-author of the 1996 position paper “A Clean Break” (see July 8, 1996), which advocates a similar aggressive posture for Israel.”

    “January 30, 2001: First National Security Council Meeting Focuses on Iraq and Israel, Not Terrorism
    The Bush White House holds its first National Security Council meeting. The focus is on Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict…But Bush isn’t interested in terrorism…Instead, Bush channels his neoconservative advisers, particularly incoming Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz… in taking a new approach to Middle East affairs, particularly the Israeli-Palestinian conflict…
    Rice begins noting “that Iraq might be the key to reshaping the entire region.”…Bush orders Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Hugh Shelton to begin preparing options for the use of US ground forces in Iraq’s northern and southern no-fly zones in support of a native-based insurgency against the Hussein regime…