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One of the more interesting aspects of the nauseating impeachment trial in the Senate was the repeated vilification of Russia and its President Vladimir Putin. To hate Russia has become dogma on both sides of the political aisle, in part because no politician has really wanted to confront the lesson of the 2016 election, which was that most Americans think that the federal government is basically incompetent and staffed by career politicians like Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell who should return back home and get real jobs. Worse still, it is useless, and much like the one trick pony the only thing it can do is steal money from the taxpayers and waste it on various types of self-gratification that only politicians can appreciate. That means that the United States is engaged is fighting multiple wars against make-believe enemies while the country’s infrastructure rots and a host of officially certified grievance groups control the public space. It sure doesn’t look like Kansas anymore.

The fact that opinion polls in Europe suggest that many Europeans would rather have Vladimir Putin than their own hopelessly corrupt leaders is suggestive. One can buy a whole range of favorable t-shirts featuring Vladimir Putin on Ebay, also suggesting that most Americans find the official Russophobia narrative both mysterious and faintly amusing. They may not really be into the expressed desire of the huddled masses in D.C. to go to war to bring true U.S. style democracy to the un-enlightened.

One also must wonder if the Democrats are reading the tea leaves correctly. If they think that a slogan like “Honest Joe Biden will keep us safe from Moscow” will be a winner in 2020 they might again be missing the bigger picture. Since the focus on Trump’s decidedly erratic behavior will inevitably die down after the impeachment trial is completed, the Democrats will have to come up with something compelling if they really want to win the presidency and it sure won’t be the largely fictionalized Russian threat.

Nevertheless, someone should tell Congressman Adam Schiff, who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, to shut up as he is becoming an international embarrassment. His “closing arguments” speeches last week were respectively two-and-a-half hours and ninety minutes long and were inevitably praised by the mainstream media as “magisterial,” “powerful,” and “impressive.” The Washington Post’s resident Zionist extremist Jennifer Rubin labeled it “a grand slam” while legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin called it “dazzling.” Gail Collins of the New York Times dubbed it “a great job” and added that Schiff is now “a rock star.” Daily Beast enthused that the remarks “will go down in history” and progressive activist Ryan Knight called it “a closing statement for the ages.” Hollywood was also on board with actress Debra Messing tweeting “I am in tears. Thank you Chairman Schiff for fighting for our country.”

Actually, a better adjective would have been “scary” and not merely due to its elaboration of the alleged high crimes and misdemeanors committed by President Trump, much of which was undeniably true even if not necessarily impeachable. It was scary because it was a warmongers speech, full of allusions to Russia, to Moscow’s “interference” in 2016, and to the ridiculous proposition that if Trump were to be defeated in 2020 he might not concede and Russia could even intervene militarily in the United States in support of its puppet. Schiff insisted that Trump must be removed now to “assure the integrity” of the 2020 election. He elaborated somewhat ambiguously that “The president’s misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured that the vote will be fairly won.”

Schiff also unleashed one of the most time honored but completely lame excuses for going to war, claiming that military assistance to Ukraine that had been delayed by Trump was essential for U.S. national security. He said “As one witness put it during our impeachment inquiry, the United States aids Ukraine and her people so that we can fight Russia over there, and we don’t have to fight Russia here.”

Schiff, a lawyer who has never had to put his life on the line for anything and whose son sports a MOSSAD t-shirt, is one of those sunshine soldiers who finds it quite acceptable if someone else does the dying. Journalist Max Blumenthal observed that “Liberals used to mock Bush supporters when they used this jingoistic line during the war on Iraq. Now they deploy it to justify an imperialist proxy war against a nuclear power.” Aaron Mate at The Nation added that “For all the talk about Russia undermining faith in U.S. elections, how about Russiagaters like Schiff fear-mongering w/ hysterics like this? Let’s assume Ukraine did what Trump wanted: announce a probe of Burisma. Would that delegitimize a 2020 U.S. election? This is a joke.”

Over at Antiwar Daniel Lazare explains how the Wednesday speech was “a fear-mongering, sword-rattling harangue that will not only raise tensions with Russia for no good reason, but sends a chilling message to [Democratic Party] dissidents at home that if they deviate from Russiagate orthodoxy by one iota, they’ll be driven from the fold.”

The orthodoxy that Lazare was writing about includes the established Nancy Pelosi/Chuck Schumer narrative that Russia invaded “poor innocent Ukraine” in 2014, that it interfered in the 2016 election to defeat Hillary Clinton, and that it is currently trying to smear Joe Biden. One might add to that the growing consensus that Russia can and will interfere again in 2020 to help Trump. Absent from the narrative is the part how the U.S. intervened in Ukraine first to remove its government and the fact that there is something very unsavory about Joe Biden’s son taking a high-paying sinecure board position from a notably corrupt Ukrainian oligarch while his father was Vice President and allegedly directing U.S. assistance to a Ukrainian anti-corruption effort.

On Wednesday, Schiff maintained that “Russia is not a threat … to Eastern Europe alone. Ukraine has become the de facto proving ground for just the types of hybrid warfare that the twenty-first century will become defined by: cyberattacks, disinformation campaigns, efforts to undermine the legitimacy of state institutions, whether that is voting systems or financial markets. The Kremlin showed boldly in 2016 that with the malign skills it honed in Ukraine, they would not stay in Ukraine. Instead, Russia employed them here to attack our institutions, and they will do so again.” Not surprisingly, if one substitutes the “United States” for “Russia” and “Kremlin” and changes “Ukraine” to Iran or Venezuela, the Schiff comment actually becomes much more credible.

The compulsion on the part of the Democrats to bring down Trump to avoid having to deal with their own failings has brought about a shift in their established foreign policy, placing the neocons and their friends back in charge. For Schiff, who has enthusiastically supported every failed American military effort since 9/11, today’s Russia is the Soviet Union reborn, and don’t you forget it pardner! Newsweek is meanwhile reporting that the U.S. military is reading the tea leaves and is gearing up to fight the Russians. Per Schiff, Trump must be stopped as he is part of a grand Russian conspiracy to overthrow everything the United States stands for. If the Kremlin is not stopped now, it’s first major step, per Schiff, will be to “remake the map of Europe by dint of military force.”

Donald Trump’s erratic rule has certainly dismayed many of his former supporters, but the Democratic Party is offering nothing but another helping of George W. Bush/Barack Obama establishment war against the world. We Americans have had enough of that for the past nineteen years. Trump may indeed deserve to be removed based on his actions, but the argument that it is essential to do so because of Russia lurking is complete nonsense. Pretty scary that the apparent chief promoter of that point of view is someone who actually has power in the government, one Adam Schiff, head of the House of Representatives Intelligence Committee.

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    True, and truly dissident.

    You needn’t even leave this website for the craven Establishment line. Mr. Buchanan leads the pack, but columnists like Mr. Derbyshire chime in, too, painting countries resistant to Washington’s control as adversaries, their governments as dictatorships.

    Hatred and fear work well both domestically and internationally. Our rulers gain and expand power by fomenting strife between groups with identity (as opposed to class) and Red v Blue politics, and by cultivating foreign enemies to scare people into accepting Uncle Sam’s control.

    Please think about this before celebrating or mourning the outcome of the theatrical impeachment proceedings. The system has all it needs from you once you take either side and cast a meaningless vote in the next Most Important Election Ever.

  2. Japan and Germany were also our make-believe enemies not so long ago. Pretending they were threats justified the creation of the military-industrial complex that ruined our republic, just as the Founders predicted “going abroad in search of monsters to destroy” would do.

    Somehow Japan, an island nation smaller than California, would be able to conquer and occupy the landmass of the United States. At the same time, Germany, which couldn’t get an invasion force across the English Channel, had hardly any surface navy and no long range aircraft, would successfully cross three thousand miles of Atlantic Ocean, where the US enjoyed overwhelming naval and air superiority, for the same evil purpose.

    I guess they hated us for our freedom too. Thank goodness we were so blessed by god, otherwise we’d have grown up speaking German – don’t laugh, a friend of mine who was an impressionable child during the barrage of jingoist propaganda of the war years, actually said this to me with a straight face. That’s really the genius of effective propaganda: its victims sincerely believe they’re expressing their own opinion when they parrot what they’ve been told to believe.

    Putin does resemble Hitler, though. Both men refuse to cede their national sovereignty and natural resources to western imperialists. But this time round, the Russian bear has far sharper claws than the German eagle. If there is a war this time, it really will be the one that ends all war.

  3. “The federal government is basically incompetent… Worse still, it is useless… the only thing it can do is steal money from the taxpayers and waste it”

    Commendably synoptic. This reader was just thinking that PCR is the site’s premier synthesizer. But this is right up there. As always, there’s a bit more to it.

    This state has imposed a servile, fearful culture of violence and mass hysteria and a pervasive corporate kleptocracy. The USA has to be destroyed. Not reformed. Dismantled, as in COMECON’s Abwicklung, or overthrown. It might take a war, and if it does, it’s worth it. In any case it will take multilateral reconstruction to develop a functioning civil society with world standard rights and rule of law.

    The USA is a parasite. You don’t reform a parasite, you poison it and shit it out. You’re overthinking this. When you see a lump of dogshit, you say, Ew, dogshit, and you leave it behind. You don’t pick through it and scrutinize every little undigested morsel and clump of hair. We’re done picking through the failure of this dogshit state. Dispose of it.

    This criminal state has pissed off lots of people who know how to knock over a regime. It’s time to follow our logical noses to the normative implications of the public consensus and replace this state. We’ll show you.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  4. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Guess those trained al CIA Duh types lopping off heads and carving out human hearts to eat just don’t scare Americans enough to make us run for cover at the mere mention of ISIS.

    Now thanks to Schiff and co, we can scan the skies warily, looking for the incoming ICBM’s and beg Congress to increase the MIC budget even more.

    • Replies: @anon
  5. bro3886 says:

    A fractured and crumbling empire needs external enemies, and the Russians are white, it’s that simple. Without Russia the Left would have to select a non-white enemy or go without. It’s also a very cynical appeal to meat-headed white voters who are still fighting the Cold War as a sort of proxy nationalism that they are forbidden to embrace in other circumstances.

    The Republicans also need an external enemy to cover up the reaming they routinely give to their voters back home and though they are less squeamish about selecting a non-white enemy they no doubt are grateful for the white Russians. But then they’re just the junior partners, the quislings, and they really don’t have the last say.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  6. In 1961, Kennedy administration officials McGeorge Buddy, Robert McNamara and Dean Dusk, all CFR and Bilderburgers members, led a study group that looked into ‘ the problem of piece’… The group worried that through “ ambiguous leadership” the “ ruling administrative class” might lose its ability to “ rationalize a desired war”, leading to the “ actual disestablishment of military institutions”.
    From “ Nephilim Crown 5G Apocalypse “ by Dean Henderson.

    The modus operandi of the United States has always been war, for without war the social cohesiveness among the poor in society might threaten the artificial cohesiveness between the rich and the poor under the manufactured threat of of an outside villain. Labour union leaders who opposed the entry of America into WWI were put in jail by the Wilson administration. Mohamed Ali became a sworn enemy to the establishment when he rejected the draft to fight in Vietnam.

    Thus the Russians, try as hard as they can to extend an olive branch to the United States, will be rebuffed until another foreign villain displaces them.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @Pancho
  7. @Observator

    Great post. Let us hope the masses will be as enlightened as you are.

  8. @Joe Levantine

    … the problem of PEACE not piece. Sorry for the typo.

  9. Anonymous[207] • Disclaimer says:
    @bro3886

    I agree it’s their need for an external enemy, but I don’t think they’ve chosen Russia because of race. I don’t think the average liberal American really thinks of Russia as a “white nation”. They’re much too distant, much too “exotic” to really count as “white” by American/Western standards.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  10. Tim8088 says:

    Open the door to having your homelands overrun by aliens, and then go out of the way to pick a fight with one of the few countries in the west that has yet to be castrated. In the words of the great Jessie Lee Petersen, amazin’.

  11. I found the intel report less than convincing. I still find it so. However, the president of the US not only signed on he formally concluded that Russian agents under direct orders of the President Putin sabotaged the US elections, attempted sabotage and sabotage in European democracies, murdered and attempted to murder citizens or guests in the sovereign countries of our allies.

    What I think about the intel report simply doesn’t matter. Russia minus some manner of apology, and the extradition of those involved is an active enemy of the US.

    I did not think the evidence was that clear. I did think easing tensions was a sound idea. But Upon agreeing with the intel community, the democratic and a large portion of Republican members of Congress, the idea of negotiating minus some wrestle on the matter of sabotaging the election

    scuttles any such endeavour.

    And I doubt that I would want to place the US in a position of becoming a joke. A joke because the current president simply bowed to Russian misconduct on our soil and our allies in Europe. And is now wiggle wogging like little puppies for a deal. And OI might even have doubts about the veracity of the election. As the elected executive is now shaking hands with the man who got him elected by their interference. I did not think the evidence supported the accusations, but the president of the US does. And he signed a report so stating.

    Now if he signed on purely for political reasons, that would be unfortunate. Because in one view, Pres Putin, would have to view the move as lacking integrity. This executive was willing to thrown him under the bus to relieve political pressure based on falsehoods. I am not sure there is any incentive for Pres Putin to agree to anything given this presidents perceived integrity and inability to withstand political pressure based on false information.

    Signing that intel report was bound to have serious consequences and they started the moment he signed.

  12. @Shiff on a sffick

    Knock off Saudi Arabia and Israel and the USA dollar is done as reserve currency. No more dog shit.

  13. A trade and security partnership of Europe and Asia spells the end of the U.S. century.

    The Anglo-Zionist alliance must do all it can to whip up hysteria. If the US dollar is dethroned as the world’s exchange currency, US imperialism will falter and Israel will go down with it.

    Imagine a future US administration telling the Israel lobby there will be cutbacks, and it will not get another cent of US citizen’s wealth.

    Demonizing Russia is part of a strategy to hold Europe from normalizing relations with the near and far East. The loudest anti-Russian voices in Washington come from the usual dual loyalty suspects.

  14. I believe the essential reason the United States of War, governed by the double-headed python, wants to destroy Russia is Christ. Made up of both Democrats and Republicans, neocons have mortgaged the ‘Murkan government, society, and economy to endless war: ultimate objective, elimination of their #1 obstacle to world rule, Russia.

    Neocons hate Christ because He is God, whereas they believe they are God. Russia, by her apostolic Church and the long-suffering and ecclesial tradition of her people, protects Christ and His holy name. Christ reigns supreme over Russia and the world. He will preserve His fortress of faith against the lunatic crusaders, as He has done before.

    The Evangelikills and Pentecoskulls, whom I group with the neocons, claim to follow Christ, but their militarism indicates they love killing more. Not all Evangelicals and Pentecostals are warmongers; many love the Gospel, the message of love. Seems to me, however, most are dominionist, desiring world hegemony, beginning with Iran and Russia next. Destruction and genocide are the only diplomacy they know–in Jesus’ name.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  15. @Beavertales

    “Imagine a future US administration telling the Israel lobby there will be cutbacks, and it will not get another cent of US citizen’s wealth.”

    Wishful thinking friend. Even if Americans were dying of hunger in the streets, the Jews would still be demanding their pound of flesh and craven politicians would (see that others) give it to them.

  16. Sean says:

    China is building the UK’s next power station, and America is having extreme difficulty in dissuading Britain from adopting China’s 5G network. Sweden was the first Western country to establish official diplomatic relations with the People’s Republic of China, but since the Swedish culture minister presented an award to an empty chair representing Gui Minhai Swedish business can forget about contracts with China. This is the way that China is supplanting the US all around the globe. The superannuated Deep State are out of their depth in a world where for the past thirty five years Trump has been focusing in declining US trade and economic power.

    One must question whether time has not also passed former cold War counterintelligence specialist Putin by, given his making China independent of importation of American LNG and ME oi Will it in the long run be a good thing for Russia? Looking east has not worked out well for Russia in the past, as with the construction of the Trans Siberian railway leading to Japanese counter moves and loss of a war in 1905, which began internal and foreign troubles culminating in the Bolshevik revolution. One might well wonder at Putin thinking a neighbouring non Caucasian power that is going to assume immense proportions in a few decades is less of an existential threat than the US, which cannot get at Russia and has no old territorial claims against it.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  17. @Observator

    I only began to read into the origins of WW2 after becoming very disconcerted by the people who were pushing the West into Middle East wars. There are of course a lot of sources of information like David Irving or Pat Buchanan’s Churchill, Hitler And The Unnecessary war

    • Replies: @Carlton Meyer
  18. melpol says:

    Putin and Trump are twin as leaders. Trump can easily replace Putin and Putin can easily replace Trump. The exchange should be attempted for 90 days and both nations will have their leadership boosted. But in a wrestling contest Putin can defeat Trump in seconds. Putin can probably kick ass of any member of Congress. He is a Judo expert. Trump is better at golf and hosting game shows. Both like attractive women and get the prettiest models. More meetings between the two will be better for world peace.

  19. It seems instead of succumbing to godless communism at the hands of defunct soviets, we’ve embraced our own version of it, godless americanism propagandized by perversely mutated mccarthyites. Schiff, Nadler, Schumer. Ugh.

  20. What makes all this absurd is that aside from the sheer triviality of the alleged Russian interference in our elections is that we simultaneously manage to completely ignore the massive extent to which Israel manipulates our political process. Partisans of Israel, after all, were the largest donors to both candidates in 2016, and in fact, fourteen of the top twenty donors to Hillary Clinton’s campaign were avowed Zionists.

    It’s all a bit like a whore coming out of the motel room where she’s just turned a trick and shrieking about how ‘this strange man’ just looked at her ankle.

    Really? Anyone’s supposed to take this seriously?

    • Agree: Commentator Mike, renfro
  21. anon[234] • Disclaimer says:

    True that,Phil. But you didn’t explain why Republicans are so hung ho. Maybe they are just going with the flow. Or maybe it is obvious.

    In the 90’s there Japanese neo mercantilism was a thing. It got tamped down before any military involvement – contracts, though. Then there is the Chinese neo mercantilism which Trump which has been actively pushing back. Plenty of potential for MIC grifting there. Cyber warfare is ideal, since it is impossible to prove that it isn’t a serious threat, and you just need software rather than planes, which have to fly. Perfect grift material.

    I’ll throw out the idea that since the notion that the US is under serious threat is unhinged, picking a non enemy as the enemy of choice makes sense in a Bizzaro World way https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World. If Russia were any sort of threat, then bottling their navy up in the Black Sea would be brilliant. We should have insisted that they needed Sevastopol. But, of course, there is nothing to fight over. Oil? If only. There looks to be a permanent glut.

  22. “What makes all this absurd is that aside from the sheer triviality of the alleged Russian interference in our elections is that we simultaneously manage to completely ignore the massive extent to which Israel manipulates our political process.”

    It stopped being absurd, when the current executive signed on to the report. It is now official policy. There are indictments and requests for extradition.

  23. anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    is gearing up to fight the Russians

    But where and over what? Ukraine? Baltic states? Things like that are a sure loser and a military defeat somewhere would have enormous rebound domestically. Not to mention that Russia has nuclear weapons, raising the risks of a miscalculation leading to disaster. The west Europeans may want to bail out of this madness and establish greater independence. This whole Russiagate affair was stupid stuff for stupid people. Rich Americans parasitizing in a poor country like Ukraine because of their connections to their highly placed parents is rather disgusting. Getting a bunch of Ukrainians killed in furtherance of some ill-advised policy is even more disgusting. Ukraine is one more state the US has destroyed along with the others in the last nineteen years. Things have gotten irrational and the politics more extreme. Putin doesn't care who the US president is, they've got their army to defend themselves with.

  24. @Observator

    Brilliant summation of what 70 + years of non-stop propaganda can accomplish.

    • Agree: renfro
  25. Why Both Republicans and Democrats Want Russia to Become the Enemy of Choice

    Didn’t Country Joe McDonald nail that 45 years ago?
    “There’s plenty good money to be made, by supplying the army with tools of the trade…”

    Both parties are owned by the donor class, of which the MIC is a significant chunk.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  26. Truth3 says:

    Well, Gee Whiz… Jews control both parties… sooooooo…

    Well written and timely article Mr. Giraldi.

    Still think you and Ron Unz should run for Pz/VP in 2020.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  27. Truth3 says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Both parties are owned by the donor class, of which the MIC is a significant chunk.

    Really? Only to the extent that the MIC is owned and directed by Jews.

    It’s the Jooz, man. Wake up. Stop providing them cover.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  28. Maybe I missed it but the article ignores its own title-question: WHY are both parties whipping up this hoax?? I have my own hunches involving oligarchs and their Western tentacles and worries about the future of nationalism and anti-Semitism in eastern Europe, but I was hoping to hear something from Giraldi.

  29. I wrote this in February of 2018 about the “Russia — Russia — Russia” ruling class propaganda:

    Who are we as a nation?

    What are we fighting for?

    The Democrats are using the Russia — Russia — Russia — attack as a way of suggesting that they are in some way guardians of national concerns or national security. The Democrats are using pseudo-nationalistic rhetoric to distract attention away from the fact that the Democrats have gone global in their outlook.

    The Democrats are now actively attacking the sovereignty and the particular national interests of the United States. In matters concerning immigration, foreign policy and legal structures, the Democrats are openly renouncing any attempt to govern the United States as a sovereign nation with concerns particular to the United States.

    The Democrats treat illegal alien invaders as if they were American citizens. The Democrats harp on about humanitarian interventionism and the sovereignty-destroying notion of so-called “right to protect” in terms of foreign policy. The ruling class of the Democrats is just as much in favor of sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and other transnational schemes as the Republican Party ruling class is.

    That is why the ruling class of the American Empire is using pseudo-nationalism and this “Russia — Russia — Russia” nonsense to attack President Trump. Trump, in his own way, has done more than most recent presidents to draw out the evil treasonous scum in the Deep State and the American Empire’s ruling class on the big questions of sovereignty, immigration, trade and foreign policy.

    President Trump should start talking more about how the ruling class is using fake nationalism to destroy the historic American nation. Trump should also talk more about how the ruling class uses the US military to advance the interests of the globalized plutocracy and certain other nations instead of the United States interests as a whole.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/even-masha-gessen-cant-take-the-medias-russophobia-with-a-straight-face/#comment-2213314

  30. Russia could even intervene militarily in the United States in support of its puppet.

    Orange Dawn 2020: Return of the Russkies. Shame Swayze is dead, but Sheen is still around to take on the Reds.

  31. @SeekerofthePresence

    They hate China as much as Russia and China is neither Christian nor white.

  32. ... says:

    So, uh, Why DO both Republicans and Dems want Russia as an enemy? You never really came out and told us up there.

    Guess it’s up to us to blurt it out. It’s because Russia is CIA’s enemy and CIA runs the US.

    When Nicaragua was our enemy, CIA warred with them in breezy contempt of the “oversight” and “review” of its gelded legislators and its groveling chickenshit courts. We’re still learning exactly how CIA waged that war: aggression by sending of armed irregulars, covertly funded by Bill Clinton, a CIA functionary groomed and installed as US presidential figurehead.

    https://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2020/02/arkansas-gray-money.html

    CIA’s subordinate branches have learned their lesson. Now they learn their war propaganda by rote. CIA’s war with Russia is waged to be not only clandestine but unattributable. It involves the Lugar Center, UNIMAK, Georgian hackers and Ukrainian Nazis. Epstein’s and Clinton’s foundations launder the money now. Southern Country International is the Coral Re of today.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  33. Ximenes says:
    @Commentator Mike

    China is America’s number one trading partner, with most favored nation status. This despite regularly spying on American companies and stealing intellectual property. Not to mention severely restricting its own Christian population, and engaging in activities like harvesting organs from incarcerated persons.

    Russia, by contrast, is surrounded by American military bases, and is being choked off by aggressively enforced economic sanctions and an economic war being directed against its energy industry.

    If “they” hate China as much as Russia, they have a funny of showing it.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  34. TG says:

    Why do our elites hate Putin/the current Russian government so much?

    Many reasons, I am sure, but a big one must be how Putin stopped the western oligarchs from looting post Soviet Russia.

    After the Soviet Union fell, we should have all joined hands and gone off to live in peace, but where’s the profit in that? No, our elites unleashed rapacious “shock therapy” and came near to driving Russia back to the Middle Ages. Love Putin or hate him, there can be no denying that he essentially single-handedly saved Russia from being turned into a desperately impoverished third-world vassal state.

    There was a lot of potential profit in Russia, ripe for the pickings. All those resources, and our elites were going to get them for pennies on the dollar… until Putin and the current Russian government stopped it. So of course they hate him! Putin has stolen their biggest current potential prize, and they will never forgive him.

    • Replies: @Dannyboy
  35. A deluge of articles on “dems want to attack” Russia….sheesh, is Bannon editor of everything now ?

  36. @Truth3

    It’s the Jooz, man. Wake up. Stop providing them cover.

    I’ve been awake for 50 years.
    The problem with your statement is that not every single “Joo” is part of the MIC, and that there are many useful idiot goys in the MIC. Adelson and Soros are “Jooz”, but the Koch Brother(s) and Warren Buffet aren’t. Jeff Bezoz, Sergey Brin and Larry Page are “Jooz”. Bill Gates and the late Steve Jobs not. Complicating that, is that not all “Jooz” are donors to the same cause (aside from Israel). They all, however, are the donor class. On top of that, is not every single “Joo”, who is not a donor, agrees with the donor class, “Joo” or not a “Joo”.
    Yes, the number of “Jooz” in the donor class is greater than goys, and for whatever reason, their dollar carriess more weight than the goy dollar. Don’t blame that on the “Jooz”, blame that on the goy recipient who opens his arse for a “Joo” dick.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  37. renfro says:

    The US wanted to prevent Russia from challenging it as the world’s Hegemon .
    And succeeded until …..along came Putin.
    Who paid off all the USSR debts and has now built up Russian diplomatic influence in the world.
    So Russia must be vilified because it is gaining ground on the US.

    The Jews?….they want another bite of the nutrient rich Russian apple….still lots to loot in Russia.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  38. @...

    The CIA reports to Mossad. The chosenites lost Russia and the USSR and they want it back. They almost had it with Yeltsin, until he stayed sober for a week and saw what was going on. His appointing Putin was a big no-no.

  39. Crazy Horse says: • Website

    Thus spoke Hermann Goring:

    “Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  40. “Why do our elites hate Putin/the current Russian government so much?”

    It doesn’t matter. The current president was in a word checkmated on Russia. He could have stayed the course and held out, but he chose to side with the arguments that Russia sabotaged the US election and attempted the same overseas as well as commit murder and attempted murder.

    Those accusations that include indictments and extradition requests have the current executive locked in to a posture that sees the Russians as enemy of the US and her allies. The three D chess contention does not have the pieces on the board positioned in the executives favor. Those of you longing for a white kumbaya are going to have wait a little while longer.

    We can all pretend it doesn’t matter, but if I were President Putin, I would be very careful making deals with anyone who said I was responsible for murder and sabotaging that country’s election. He may get why it was done, however, that doesn’t make the medicine go down any better.

    I think the checkmate so called is not only to the executives moves but those of his opponents as well. They may have intended to derail the current executives agenda, but they have done more than that. They absolutely have no legs to stand on regarding “kissiee face” images — as obnoxious and inappropriate as those images are.

  41. @Beavertales

    Israel’s existence doesn’t depend on the United States. If you are a Rev you would know that. That tiny group of people outlasted empire after empire not because of their own cunning. At different times – Egyptians – Persians – Ottomans – Arabs saved them when they were on the verge of being wiped out. Lately it was the Europeans (outside Germany) and then the US. The same said groups at different times also “punished” them. If it wasn’t Divine Intervention – they would have disappeared like many other small groups throughout history. You don’t have to like them or agree with much of what they do… It doesn’t mean that some aren’t powerful and aren’t involved in geopolitical machinations… But it is reality – they exist for God’s purposes to be fulfilled Rev.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @dickr
  42. @Ximenes

    For all the talk of Chinese “regularly spying on American companies and stealing intellectual property” – there is a dearth of prosecution of these cases in comparison to the non stop rumor mongering. In fact – many of the prosecuted cases – the defendants were found not guilty. Here is a secret – if you sign a contract in a foreign country to share information – it’s not stealing nor spying. Here is another secret for you… More Indians have been caught in such cases than Chinese in the US. Another secret… You know who steals the most IP from American companies…? Other American companies!!!
    And as to the talk of them restricting their Christian population… Go to any city in China and you will find churches. What is restricted is public proselytizing. What is restricted is going to churches not approved of by the state. You know why they have that restriction…? They know NGO’s and fake Christians are often used as covert ops. As myself a Christian – unless they are telling me to not believe in the Messiah – there should be no reason to not go to a government approved church. I would ask any believer – what they have to hide…
    In any event – according to Pompeo and the Attorney General – China is America’s greatest threat. So it depends on the day of the week and who is talking as to who is more the enemy – Russia or China. Putin has been around for a few Chinese leaders. He has partnered with them to counter the US. First with the Shanghai Cooperation Organization… Then with BRICS (which has it’s own bank)… Conducting many military drills on land and sea. Attempting to push the US dollar out of all trade between themselves… As well as scientific and commercial cooperation (such as a commercial airliner and Russian gas pipeline into China). Either way you cut it – Russia and China are very aware that they are both hated.

  43. @Just passing through

    Here is a 13-minute summary of Buchanan’s and Irving’s views:

  44. @showmethereal

    Embarrassing, conclusory primitive nonsense.

    Other than that, persuasive.

    An eternal, omnipotent, omniscient God needs a particular random group of his temporary, flawed, mortal creations on a single planet in an infinite universe, so that his will or laws or prophecies be carried out. How self-absorbed, arrogant, and simply stupid is that?

    Whether he is a minister or not, neither he nor you “knows” any such thing.

    So which races or groups of people — or other sentient beings — are NOT “necessary” for God’s “purposes to be fulfilled”, and why?

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  45. Truth3 says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Read what I said…

    Really? Only to the extent that the MIC is owned and directed by Jews.

    It’s the Jooz, man. Wake up. Stop providing them cover.

    Only to the extent…

    Never said the Jooz own the entire MIC.

    Agree with you that those that sell their soul to the (((Devil))) and become Shabbos-Goyim are also the problem, but they WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM WITHOUT JEW POWER AND CONTROL.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  46. Truth3 says:
    @Truth3

    The essential fact is… Jews use the Shabbos Goyim as cover, as much as for support.

    That is why… blaming the Shabbos Goyim plays directly into the Jew’s reason #1 for SG in the first place.

    Cover… masking… misdirection… false flagging… propaganda… control of voice… are all tactics and techniques for a tiny parasitic bloodsucking invader minority to wield control over a large host victim population.

    Stop giving Jews cover. The SG are only an accessory to the real problem.

  47. @RadicalCenter

    Actually yes – that is pretty much it. Human beings are finite creatures – so we have to be fed things in bits and morsels. Yes the bible is clear. It wasn’t because the children of Israel were better or stronger or smarter or more righteous than any other group that they survive. It is only because of the promises to the patriarchs starting with Abraham. They were given instruction to be a light to the world. When they do they are blessed. When they don’t – they are punished. Same with the whole issue of “the middle east”. The fight is all about Jerusalem and has been for thousands of years. There is no reason to fight over that little spit of land. It’s a spiritual issue. The omnipotent God has a fond liking of that little strip of land. The forces in the universe that are anti-God will do anything to control and desecrate it.

    I know though – none of it will makes sense to “smart” people like yourself (though my college GPA supposedly says that I am also). It is easier for persons like yourselves to believe the universe formed by random clumps of dust and that life on earth formed by some random mutations of some random molecules… That’s fine – it is not in my power to convince you otherwise. You can study the depths of science and math and philosophy until your dying day – and your soul won’t be at peace. It hurts to kick against the pricks.

    Your attempts at insult only show the corruption of your soul. Doesn’t shake me one bit.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  48. @Sean

    Maybe Putin learned from the past and realized that it is better to have neighboring Orientals as friends – instead of heeding Kaiser Wilhelm’s words to the Tsar that they are inferior and seek to destroy all white men. Maybe Putin is smarter and realizes both Russia and China prosper when they are friendly.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  49. Giraldi’s right. Pissing on Russia is now de rigueur for the DemoPublican Party.

    Russia interfered with the 2016 election? Bullshit. When I voted, I didn’t see some guy who looked like Ernst Stavro Blofeld saying to me, “Hey, Comrade Larson, you’ll vote against Hillary Clinton, da?” Of course, there’s never been heard a discouraging word about AIPAC and its pernicious hold over our political hacks. . . .

    And, yes, Adam Schiff is an Israel-Firster, an armchair commando who’s always looking out for the Zionists in Tel Aviv.

  50. @renfro

    The Jews?….they want another bite of the nutrient rich Russian apple….still lots to loot in Russia.

    I bet they’d even steal those gold doors in the Kremlin and strip gold from the churches. They must go green with envy and greed when they see all that gold out there.

  51. @showmethereal

    I was interested to see where China gets its oil from:

    Below are the top 15 countries that supplied 90.6% of the crude oil imported into China during 2018.

    Russia: US$37.9 billion (15.8% of China’s total imported crude)
    Saudi Arabia: $29.7 billion (12.4%)
    Angola: $24.9 billion (10.4%)
    Iraq: $22.4 billion (9.4%)
    Oman: $17.3 billion (7.2%)
    Brazil: $16.2 billion (6.8%)
    Iran: $15 billion (6.3%)
    Kuwait: $11.9 billion (5%)
    Venezuela: $7 billion (2.9%)
    United States: $6.8 billion (2.8%)
    United Arab Emirates: $6.7 billion (2.8%)
    Congo: $6.4 billion (2.7%)
    Colombia: $5 billion (2.1%)
    Malaysia: $4.8 billion (2%)
    Libya: $4.7 billion (2%)

    http://www.worldstopexports.com/top-15-crude-oil-suppliers-to-china/

    Perhaps Russia could supply even more from nearby Siberia and knock out some of the unfriendly or unreliable suppliers on that list. It was good to see the recent launch of the gas line to China:

    https://www.rt.com/business/474830-russia-china-power-siberia-launch/

    Since there is so much hostility to Russia in the West, it should really look to supplying far more of China’s energy needs.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  52. @Truth3

    Historically, Jews arm both sides in very major conflict. Meaning, that no matter which side wins, Jews benefit by being on the winning side.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  53. @Commentator Mike

    Hostility or none… Diversification of sources/markets – whenever possible – is generally the best way.

  54. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Greg Bacon

    The Clinton machine fixed Iowa for CIA-Pete. If the craven DNC nominate Booty-jig, aren’t we better off with Trump?

    Media darling Pete Buttigieg was in unit that worked with the CIA in Afghanistan
    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/02/07/pete-buttigieg-cia-afghanistan/

    Following the fiasco in Iowa, in which voting results were blocked thanks to faulty technology produced by a dark money outfit linked to Buttigieg – and Mayor Pete inexplicably took to himself the victor – the hashtag trended nationally.

  55. @showmethereal

    I don’t think I know that your soul is “corrupt” even though you’re wrong and irrational on this point. I would both hope and guess that you are not, in fact, deserving of such harsh condemnation.

    Must be nice to be so godlike in your conclusory “knowledge” and judgment of strangers.

    And you seem to think that I’m an atheist. I am definitely NOT. It is eminently logical to me that God exists and created all of existence, as difficult as that is for any of us honestly to fully comprehend or explain. Neither my respectable level of intelligence nor my academic and professional achievements, have ever enabled me to adequately comprehend or rationally and convincingly explain this situation. You can’t either.

    Try not to put words in other people’s mouths and invent inapplicable labels for them.

    Religion, while vital for human beings, can certainly make people act and speak foolishly and without reason, as you demonstrate.

    Try again.

  56. Kali says:

    “The jews” failed, as per their gods command, to “utterly destroy” their enemy, Russia. Maybe this explains the US, cross-party, “enemy of choice”? – (((they))) need to finish the job (((they))) began over a century ago.

    Trouble is (((they))) simply don’t have the power to do so, so attack-dog USA is used to do the job for them, regardless of which party holds the reigns of the MIC..?

  57. Dannyboy says:
    @TG

    the western oligarchs

    No, our elites unleashed rapacious “shock therapy” and came near to driving Russia back to the Middle Ages.

    All those resources, and our elites were going to get them for pennies on the dollar…

    Can you name any of these “oligarchs/elites”?

    What ethnicity are they?

    I seem to recall that most, if not all were Jews.

    Boris Berezovsky, Mikhail Fridman, Vladimir Gusinsky, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Vladimir Potanin, Alexander Smolensky, Pyotr Aven, Vladimir Vinogradov and Vitaly Malkin.

    Please avoid designating this walking talking human excrement as “ours”. They are about as “Russian” as shitbags like Nadler, Schiff, Schumer, Fienstein etc… are American.

  58. @Carroll Price

    And it’s a nice little earner too.

  59. Glock45 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    They might hate China too, but nothing triggers the (((tribe))) who controls this nation more than seeing the huge revival of Orthodox Christianity that has occurred in the past two decades in Russia.

    Their blood boils with hatred whenever Putin makes his frequent speeches about the necessity to return to Christ, to go to Church, and to have strong, stable traditional Christian families with lots of Russian children who are raised in the Orthodox faith.

    Having a leader who is for HIS people and is telling HIS people to return to Christ?!?

    That stands in the way of (((their))) Tikkun Olam and cannot be tolerated.

    Hence the hatred for Putin/Russia, which is probably more intense now than it ever was.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
  60. Derer says:

    Trump impressive attempt to navigate US-Russia relations into a friendly state for mutual benefits has badly failed. The Washington sinister militarists have prevailed and Trump became their pawn. They need enemies and conflicts for the US biggest industry to strive, with multipliers effect, accounting for the 65% percent of economy. Paying $6000 for hammer is good for the GDP.

    Imposing sanctions is a declaration of enemy stratus and has nothing to do with a hypocritical call for free trade. US stupid policies driving Russia in alliance with China, India, Germany and in due time that will have disastrous consequences for the US. Remember US military could not beat half a Vietnam.

  61. Pancho says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Actually, the book was about the problem of peace (not piece). The full title was “Report on Iron Mountain: About the Possibility & Desirability of Peace.” It concluded that peace, though maybe possible, it was not desirable.

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