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The coronavirus story has generated a number of major subplots. First is the origin of the virus. Did it occur naturally or was it created in a Chinese, American or Israeli weapons lab? If bioengineered, did it somehow escape or was it deliberately released? As the governments that might have been involved in the process have become very tight lipped and the mainstream media is reluctant to embrace conspiracy theories, we the public may never know the answer.

Second is the nature of the virus itself. There are inevitably skeptics who choose to compare the affliction to a common head cold or normal winter flu and are able to cherry pick so-called experts to support their case. Many Americans are unwilling to submit to a lockdown or isolation and are flaunting their willingness to go out in public and mix freely while others are claiming that the whole thing is a hoax designed to create a panic that will benefit certain constituencies. There are press reports of teenagers going to supermarkets and faking a sneeze or a cough in the produce section to show their indifference to the infection avoidance guidelines now being promoted by the media and government. Some critics have also commented regarding the deaths of hundreds of Italians daily, suggesting that in Italy’s health care system old people were deliberately being allowed to die.

The fact is that when critically ill people die in hospitals it is sometimes attributable to triage. Triage arises when there are only limited resources to treat the sick, as in the case recently in the Italian Lombard city of Bergamo where hospitals were overwhelmed. Doctors must make the decision to treat those who are ill who are likely to survive as a first priority, meaning that others will only receive limited treatment. Italy has roughly the same number of hospital beds as does the United States per capita and it has more ventilators capable of being used to treat the advanced stages of the virus. It also is receiving assistance from both China and Russia on testing supplies and additional ventilators and masks. Italy has conducted far more coronavirus tests than has the U.S. The northern Italian medical services system was up to European standards, better than what prevails in the U.S., but it has been broken by the virus. Spain is heading the same way and there are similar concerns about France.

In spite of all the ideologically driven background clutter, genuinely knowledgeable medical authorities come down overwhelmingly promoting the view that the virus is highly contagious and capable of spreading rapidly, making it a pandemic, and it can be exceptionally lethal to certain demographics, including the elderly and those with weakened immune systems. The way of combatting it also appears to be agreed upon by most genuine experts i.e. that testing must be widespread to determine who is infected and those individuals should be isolated from contact with others for at least two weeks to limit the spread of the contagion. For those whose conditions worsen, hospitalization and treatment for possible respiratory failure are warranted.

The third big issue is the apparently deliberate failure of the Trump Administration to respond proactively to limit the spread of the virus. Seeking to protect the stock market more than the American public, President Donald Trump initially downplayed the impact of the virus, even calling it a “hoax” during January and February when it first appeared on U.S. soil. It turned out that several institutes affiliated to the Center for Disease Control to deal with epidemics had been dismantled by the Administration and, in spite of the warning provided by what was occurring in Wuhan, the U.S. made no effort to increase its supply of testing kits, masks or ventilators. Meanwhile, congressmen were receiving dire warnings of what was coming from the intelligence community in private briefings, leading to a number of senators selling their stock in anticipation of a market collapse. That is something called insider trading and it is illegal. It is also a measure of the corruption of America’s ruling class.

The fourth major subplot relates to what will come out of the pandemic once it is over, if it is indeed defeated at all. Critics rightly observe that the government response both at federal and state levels might well be a major overreaction to a health crisis that could possibly be dealt with using a lighter hand. Donald Trump has now called himself a “wartime president,” a particularly odd conceit in that America’s chief executive officer dodged the Vietnam war draft. Trump is now providing daily rambling briefings emphasizing that his administration deserves a “10 out or 10” for its yeoman’s work against coronavirus. The real story is that the president personally inhibited initial efforts to respond to the disease and he is now attempting to regain lost ground by supporting draconian measures to include cash payments to all American residents, even to people who do not need the money. The money itself will have to be borrowed or printed, putting the United States even deeper in debt.

Based on his wartime status, the president and his cabinet are poised to exploit Civil War and Korean War legislation to assume powers over the economy and will likely arrange bailouts of some industries that will then acquire the government as a partner. The now declared “national emergency” will undoubtedly come to include some forms of martial law to enforce the isolation of targeted populations and it is also being reported that the Justice Department has asked Congress to allow judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during the “emergency.” As we have learned from the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act and the Authorization to Use Military Force, allegedly temporary powers acquired by the executive branch have frequently become permanent. Unrestrained power in the hands of a Trump or Biden should frighten anyone who is still interested in voting in November.

There is some speculation that Trump might well follow the example being set by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. Israel has banned foreign visitors, is under 24 hours curfew and is effectively in lockdown. It is using cell phone intercepts provided by the intelligence services to track the comings and goings of Israeli residents. The monitoring is being justified as a mechanism to create a record of who is meeting whom and where to support isolation and lockdown efforts. A similar program is already active in the suburbs around Washington. The National Security Agency (NSA) already has the technical ability in place that would permit monitoring of the movements of much of the U.S. population. It would be an intelligence community dream and would fit quite nicely with Congress’s recent efforts to re-authorization certain Patriot Act aspects of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

Fifth and finally, there is the politicization aspect of coronavirus. The virus is being “blamed” on China, a global competitor of the United States. As is often the case, Trump has gotten the ball rolling through his usual verbal toxicity, calling the virus the Chinese Virus or Wuhan Virus. Other Republicans have picked up on the theme, leading to the inevitably Democratic progressive wing complaints that such language was “racist.” The fact it, there is no evidence whatsoever that China in any deliberate way either created or unleashed the virus.

And, of course, there is Russia. It would almost seem an old joke that is no longer amusing to blame something new and menacing on Moscow and congress has so far largely refrained from doing so. But that does not mean that the Deep State establishment is holding the Kremlin and President Vladimir Putin blameless. The U.S. intelligence community, through its preferred propaganda sheet the New York Times, is now reporting that Russia is taking advantage of the coronavirus crisis to spread disinformation through Europe and also in the U.S. In particular, Putin has escalated a campaign-by-innuendo to reduce confidence in the outcome of the upcoming 2020 presidential election. In any event, the Russians are too late as the Democratic and Republican parties’ behavior has already convinced many Americans that voting in November will be a waste of time.

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D., Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Surtr says:

    This is a true story. I was out of work, so I applied for jobs with the Democratic party. I specifically said that I was apolitical, and anyone looking at my voting record can see that I have voted for Democrats and Republicans alike. Now my family is being targeted by President Trump himself. We received a huge survey that no one else received near us accusing democrats as “attacking” personally him. He only cares about himself. He is a fat, f*ck, megalomaniac, man-child that can barely read that uses his position and power to terrorize his own people. Anyone that does not fall into his step is to be hunted down like me and my family. All of my videos come up with Pompeo going off on disinformation campaigns now for every page that I visit. All of this because the worthless CIA allowed and funded mass surveillance with Google. In Estonia, the government protects its people. In America, the CIA allows the peoples data to be gathered, distributed, and sold without their consent and protection.

    Google’s true origin partly lies in CIA and NSA research grants for mass surveillance
    https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-cia-and-nsa-research-grants-for-mass-surveillance/

    If I am every President, I will end the CIA and maybe even the NSA for this traitorous act. It is unforgivable.

  2. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    There are inevitably skeptics

    No one of normal intelligence can avoid being a skeptic. We are all skeptics these days. The MSM is nothing but a lie-box, the blaring loudspeakers on every corner pouring out disinformation 24/7. So if the story is that this is a killer virus many people assume just the opposite. It’s clearly a golden opportunity for a massive power grab as well as tapping into the public till. Can’t blame people for having become reflexive cynics. When the music stops we’ll see who ends up with the chairs.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @robert scheetz
  3. Lot says:

    “ Did it occur naturally or was it created in a Chinese, American or Israeli weapons lab? ”

    Not surprised Phil ignores Russia, the nation with the largest bioweapon program in world history.

  4. @Lot

    @Lot any links to study from Russia?

    • Replies: @NPleeze
  5. @Surtr

    If, as President Surtr, you try to do what you say to the CIA, are you old enough to remember Dallas, 11-22-63?

  6. Hibernian says:
    @Surtr

    Sure, you’re apolitical. Sure, you vote for candidates of both parties.

    • Agree: Gleimhart Mantooso
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Herald
  7. I don’t know how Mr. Giraldi is able to churn out so many columns, seemingly a new one every day or two. Usually I like them, especially those about America’s endless wars, but in this one his case of Trump Derangement Syndrome is showing.

    That terrible mess in NYC, where they are running out of healthy healthcare workers as Washington-supplied ventilators remain in warehouses, (as reported today on Tucker Carlson), should be laid squarely at the feet of Cuomo and that clueless mayor DeBlassio, not Trump.

  8. NPleeze says:
    @Jane Blinkton

    Don’t bother asking that rabid ZioNazi / fraudulent poser “Christian” for any data. All he does 24/7 is spread lies and hate to advance his ZioNazi agenda. He has no data to support anything his infected mind (ZioNazism, the most virulent strain on the planet) spread through the world.

    • Agree: Moi, Druid
  9. @Lot

    Yes, the USSR did have a large chem-/bio reseach effort. Until it was all shut down in tbe late 90’s & naughties under (among others) US supervision.

  10. Realist says:
    @Hibernian

    I agree…with your sarcasm.

  11. Realist says:

    …voting in November will be a waste of time.

    Excellent point…but that has been the case for decades.

  12. Trinity says:

    Professor Charles (((Lieber))) and the 5 Dancing Shlomos make an encore appearance.

    Why do (((these people))) always seem to pop up when it comes to things like this? Is it just a COHENcidence? Nah, that would be a “racist” or “anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.”

  13. Has anyone seen this? UK Medical body basically says Covid19 is nothing to worry about.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200324115924/https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

    It has been replaced by instructions to “stay home”. CNN “missed” it.

    • Thanks: CanSpeccy
    • Replies: @NPleeze
  14. Extensive details from medical professionals, on just what an exaggerated scam this coronavirus Covid-19 panic is

    In reality, what we have is a somewhat worse flu season 99% affecting the elderly and chronically ill, e.g., a young person dying turned out to have hidden leukemia

    ‘A Swiss Doctor on Covid-19’
    published by Swiss Propaganda Research
    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
    also here
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/swiss-doctor-covid-19/5707642
    (Much material is below the original article and footnotes, in the daily updates toward the bottom)

    [MORE]

    Most major media falsely report that Italy has up to 800 deaths per day from the coronavirus. In reality, the president of the Italian Civil Protection Service stresses that these are deaths WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus. In other words, these persons died while also testing positive [not nececessarily causal]

    Between those who died *from* the coronavirus and those who died *with* the coronavirus, it is not clear whether the person died from the pre-existing chronic diseases

    Renowned Italian virologist Giulio Tarro argues that the mortality rate of Covid19 is below 1% even in Italy and is therefore comparable to influenza. The higher values only arise because no distinction is made between deaths with and by Covid19 and because the number of (symptom-free) infected persons is greatly underestimated.

    Stanford Professor John Ioannidis showed that the age-corrected lethality of Covid19 is between 0.025% and 0.625%, i.e. in the range of a strong cold or the flu

    A Japanese study showed that of all the test-positive cruise passengers, and despite high average age, 48% remained completely symptom-free; even among the 80-89 year olds 48% remained symptom-free, while among 70 to 79 year olds it was an astounding 60% that developed no symptoms at all.

    The Italian example has shown that 99% of test-positive deaths had one or more pre-existing conditions, and even among these, only 12% of the death certificates mentioned Covid19 as a causal factor.

    Average age of the positively-tested deceased in Italy is currently about 81 years. 10% of the deceased are over 90 years old. 90% of the deceased are over 70 years old.

    80% of the deceased had suffered from two or more chronic diseases. 50% of the deceased had suffered from three or more chronic diseases.

    Less than 1% of deceased were healthy persons

    Northern Italy has one of the oldest populations and the worst air quality in Europe, which had already led to an increased number of respiratory diseases and deaths in the past

    Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera points out that Italian intensive care units already collapsed under the marked flu wave in 2017/2018.

    Argentinean virologist and biochemist Pablo Goldschmidt explains that Covid19 is no more dangerous than a bad cold or the flu.

    Dr. Goldschmidt speaks of a „global terror“ created by the media and politics. Every year, he says, three million newborns worldwide and 50,000 adults in the US alone die of pneumonia.

    German Professor Karin Moelling, former Chair of Medical Virology at the University of Zurich, stated in an interview that Covid19 is „no killer virus“ and that „panic must end“.

    Countries like South Korea and Japan that introduced no lockdown measures have experienced near-zero excess mortality in connection with Covid-19

    Swiss deaths so far were also high-risk patients with chronic diseases, an average age of more than 80 years and a maximum age of 97 years

    According to all current data, for the healthy general population of school and working age, a mild to moderate course of Covid-19 can be expected.

    Official data on deaths from pneumonia in the US. There are usually between 3000 and 5500 deaths per week and thus significantly more than the current figures for Covid19

    • Thanks: Miro23, follyofwar, CanSpeccy
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @follyofwar
    , @KA
  15. Wielgus says:

    It is a few days old. The definition of an HCID seems to be of something far more lethal than the coronavirus is. It seems to me wrong to say it is nothing to worry about but the virus clearly does not fit the definition that is set out in the guidelines.

  16. There are many previously existing problems with the Trump presidency and with Trump himself. As a bioscientist with an advanced degree I’m particularly troubled with his seeming purposeful deceit or perhaps even idiocy about how to address this pandemic. I have my doubts about his suitability for this monumental task.

    That said, I’ll certainly be voting for Trump in the upcoming election if Biden is his opponent. Biden’s an obvious mental midget suffering from all those impairments that accompany old age. And, I believe that, if he’s elected, the Democrats are quite capable of conducting what may very well qualify as a coup in that they will allow him to decay to the point that he’ll resign and they can bring in from the Vice Presidency the candidate they’d really have preferred, certainly to include HRC.

    Again, that said, I’m wary of Trump’s seemingly scientifically irrational approach to the public health issues that will be essential to defeat this pandemic. I think that at least hundreds of thousands and perhaps even millions of Americans will be at risk because of his risky behavior.

    No scientist like myself would favor or even consider the plight of the markets compared to the plight of the people. I guess that’s because I was trained to care for people, even those with meager means, more so than to cow-tow to the rich.

  17. PAX says:
    @Longfisher

    Age is a factor in mental capacity for some, not all. Be careful generalizing. I just taught myself a new computer language at 85. It was harder than expected. Not impossible. We are not on rubbish tip of humanity yet.

    • Agree: tomo
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  18. Dutch Boy says:

    Steven Mosher thinks the virus escaped from a Chinese lab. He also says the Chinese authorities knew a new virus was circulating in Wuhan and restricted military personnel to their bases to prevent the spread of the infection to soldiers but then allowed millions of Wuhan residents to leave the city for Chinese New Year, which ended any chance of restricting the disease to Wuhan. They also attempted to suppress news about the new disease. When Trump did finally restrict travel from China, the usual suspects howled about racism and xenophobia. The shortage of testing kits is due to the CDC, which refused to use existing kits because it wanted to market its own kits, which were a flop. It then tried to forbid other jurisdictions from using test kits not developed by the CDC.
    https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/02/25/steven-mosher-most-likely-explanation-for-coronavirus-is-wuhan-bioweapons-lab/

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @NPleeze
  19. Is this more Panic than Pandemic?

    Is this like the UVA Rape Hoax pulled by Sabrina Rubin Erderly?

    Remember when blond aryan fratboys were raping girls left and right?

    Me thinks Corona is bad but not 1/10th as bad as people are making it out to be.

  20. @Dutch Boy

    Steven Mosher thinks the virus escaped from a Chinese lab.

    Is that the Chinese government hating marrano, Steven Mosher?
    I put it down to his first two wives.

  21. NPleeze says:
    @Thomas Milton

    It’s still there, instructions are at the top, the revocation of HCID status below.

    Interestingly, MERS, SARS and other coronaviruses continue to be listed as HCIDs.

  22. NPleeze says:
    @Dutch Boy

    LOL, we all can speculate. There’s not one iota of evidence it escaped from that lab. And where is evidence of the Xi Beijing meeting? There’s tons of evidence that the CDC shut down bio-weapon lab Fort Detrick.

    However, as Mosher is a consistent Evil Empire propagandist with not a single care about truth, that’s nowhere to be found.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  23. @Surtr

    Don’t panic. All this “survey” proves is that Trump’s mailing list is randomly populated with non-supporters. And we’re all subject to the evil intrigues of Google. Use Duck-duck-go.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  24. It will not end until the zionists have us locked in a police state dictatorship that will make Orwells 1984 look like paradise and we are just about there!

  25. Dan Hayes says:
    @NPleeze

    Gordon Chang puts Steven Mosher to shame!

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
  26. @Desert Fox

    Agreed. It will end when all the advanced economies have been cut down to size and neatly clumped into ordered “economic zones” which can then be played against one another in a race to the bottom. The middle class Boomers will see their retirement funds largely disappear. Civil rights will be further eroded such as by the warrantless tracking of individuals to assist in tracking those “carrying the virus”. Cash will be found to be a potential conduit for the “spreading of the virus” and that’s just for starters.

  27. mtt1029 says:

    Meanwhile, congressmen were receiving dire warnings of what was coming from the intelligence community in private briefings, leading to a number of senators selling their stock in anticipation of a market collapse. That is something called insider trading and it is illegal.

    Love ya Phil, but anybody paying attention at the end of January could see this was going to happen. I sold stocks at some point in early Feb, don’t exactly remember when, saw this coming way back.

    While I hate the politicians as much as the next guy, and government failures here are beyond belief, this information was available to everyone. Not even close to insider trading.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  28. I suspect that the pent-up whatevers in the economy will just come roaring back.

    Two anecdotes:

    I’m trying to buy musical equipment online. The prices are not going down at all. In fact they seem to be going a little bit up. Why should this happen in the midst of a depression?

    Also, I’ve been watching a precious metal, not gold, to maybe buy a little when the price gets low. It dipped there for a week or two. Now it’s back up to where it was and headed for the stratosphere.

    When, I ask, are the prices going to drop, if this is so economically devastating? I suspect the real conspiracy here may be to convince us that the economy is tanking.

    I don’t know. Just speculating based on anecdotes. I notice I am not the only one.

    • Replies: @Catdomnj
  29. Like the “voting is a waste of time” theme, because it IS A WASTE OF TIME! Unless you love the
    “meet the new boss same as the old boss” scenario. Voting for the “lesser of two evils” is still evil, and so is the “if you don’t vote you can’t complain” theme. The time for complaining is over.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  30. For those who are not sure if they want to spend the time to read the article, I will sum it up for you:

    Orange Man Bad!

  31. @Longfisher

    Since when is the need for everyone to get back to their lives and livelihoods only about the market? The current plight of people is a helluva lot bigger than just the virus du jour.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  32. onebornfree says: • Website

    “Among all the panic and misinformation being spewed by politicians at all levels and the complicit mainstream media, what is going on under the radar that will greatly harm Americans much more than this virus ever could? First, all the legislation, executive orders, and mass control measures happening now will never go away, and will cause undue tragedy for years to come. Secondly, the biggest wealth transfer in history is going on right before our eyes, and of course is mostly ignored due to this government manufactured false pandemic. The economic fallout that has already caused mass devastation will only worsen the longer these quarantine measures are in place, and will cause havoc for an unknown amount of time.

    Surveillance of the entire population will continue, and in fact expand. As more restrictive measures are forthcoming from the state governors whose egos are now consumed by the massive power gained by simply claiming emergency status, more compliance will be demanded. Partial or full martial law and medical martial law continues to be implemented, and the very adverse consequences of such actions will cause extreme stress, depression, dire financial harm, psychological trauma, additional sickness and death, and most likely an increase in suicide that has never before been seen. None of these factors have been addressed by those responsible for all these totalitarian measures. This reminds me of the statement by Madeline Albright concerning the 500,000 deaths of little children under the age of 5 in Iraq, when she said in front of the entire world that their deaths were worth it. When this minor virus that has been completely blown out of proportion is over, will the political response be that all the “collateral” damage and death due to the shutdown of the entire country was worth it; this after many more deaths occurred due to government forced mandates and economic destruction than any virus could ever have caused?…….”

    From: “Due to the Coronavirus Hoax, Consider the Consequences of Martial Law and Asset Takeover Going On in America”:
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/gary-d-barnett/due-to-the-coronavirus-hoax-consider-the-consequences-of-martial-law-and-asset-takeover-going-on-in-america/

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  33. @PAX

    The daughter of a 94 year old retired surgeon told me he had just bought and taught himself to use a 3D printer. Indeed it is sad when you know that some 95 year olds – even 100 year olds – are as sharp as a tack but their friends and contemporaries lose their memories, not least their short term ones, like one’s dear grandmother.
    A 102 year old walked from his daughter’s car to my lunch table without a stick, heard my male voice perfectly from 10 feet away without hearing aids, flew back to England unaccompanied Premium Economy but has now just died at 106.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  34. Philip Giraldi: Would you be so good as to get and pass on some reliable legal advice about the threat to freedom posed by the President’s potential push to extend legislation like the Patriot Act to allow much surveillance and compulsion wrt Covid 19?

    It is one thing for Trump to declare himself a war President and to seek to use powers available in case of war. But will SCOTUS let him?

    I recall the attempt and failure of one of Australia’s greatest Constitutional counsel when he was Prime Minister of our federation whose constitution was substantially based on that of the US grafted on to a Westminster legislative scheme, and he attempted to ban the Communist Party. Our highest court said the war (WW2) was over and the defence power wouldn’t support the legislation. (OT.. He then tried for a Constitutional amendment which only involves a majority of the voters and a majority of the six states voting for it, and he lost again. Happily for my side of politics he won the next election after a spy defected from the Soviet embassy – the Petrov Affair – and dobbed in several Comms working for or who had worked for the Labor Leader of the Opposition).

    • Replies: @anon
  35. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brabantian

    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

    Thank you, Brabantian. This link cuts through the BS like a hot knife through butter.

    • Agree: CanSpeccy
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  36. Antares says:

    The impression that I get is that hospitals are at 50% of what would be needed right now. Hasn’t there been austerity measures that reduced their capacity to 50%? Have most hospitals not been closed and centralised into a few super hospitals? Imagine that there is an outbreak of a contagious disease and you only have centralised hospitals! We are led by morons and the current problems must have been very predictably to insiders. Stilll no dead figures above the normal.

    And when will it end? Is flattening the curve not actually stretching the curve?

    There are press reports of teenagers going to supermarkets and faking a sneeze or a cough in the produce section to show their indifference to the infection avoidance guidelines now being promoted by the media and government.

    They want to get rid of the injunctions and restrictions and I can’t blame them as they make no sense to me. In my local supermarket we are now forced to use a shopping cart. I never use those things because I find them dirty. But my cash is now somehow suspicious and at some places not accepted. I won’t forget who let me down.

    testing must be widespread to determine who is infected and those individuals should be isolated from contact with others for at least two weeks to limit the spread of the contagion

    Tests are unreliable, as are the ones who will carry you away and treat you like a pile of shit, inject lethal vaccines into your body and put you together with already infected people. Their way of thinking is completely wrong and such people should be avoided like the plague.

    There are inevitably skeptics who choose to compare the affliction to a common head cold or normal winter flu and are able to cherry pick so-called experts to support their case.

    A few days ago a microbiologist said the following at a Dutch radio show:
    – Keep shopping,
    – Small groups who break the rules won’t change the stats.

    Yesterday, another man pointed out that the prediction models are mathematical and not medical.

  37. gotmituns says:

    This coronavirus stuff is a bunch of crapdoodle. During the black death epidemic in London, the guy walking in front of you would suddenly fall over dead. Everyone knew there was an epidemic. There was no need of a giant government/media propaganda campaign to tell everyone about it each an every minute of every day.

  38. lavoisier says: • Website
    @anonymous

    No one of normal intelligence can avoid being a skeptic. We are all skeptics these days. The MSM is nothing but a lie-box, the blaring loudspeakers on every corner pouring out disinformation 24/7. So if the story is that this is a killer virus many people assume just the opposite.

    This is very true. It is impossible to know who can be trusted today.

    Count me as a borderline skeptic. I think the threat is real and I do not think it should be taken lightly.

    That being said, the constant lies from the government, its corruption and indifference to the interests of the electorate, and a dishonest and complicit media has turned the thoughtful among us into cynics.

    What a sad, sad state of affairs.

    The rot in our nation runs very deep.

  39. Miro23 says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Civil rights will be further eroded such as by the warrantless tracking of individuals to assist in tracking those “carrying the virus”. Cash will be found to be a potential conduit for the “spreading of the virus” and that’s just for starters.

    Actually they can arrest anyone they like for “carrying the virus” – since anyone could potentially have it.

    The 0,1% get “Essential Worker” (Party Membership) cards so that they can go where they want.

  40. I believe I was “infected” by a similar affliction to COVID-19 in the USA (MN) back in November 2019.

    Similar symptoms. I feared the possibility of pneumonia.

    Sought treatment from the VA and was prescribed Doxycline of seven days. Full recovery.

    I don’t think this condition originated in China but the Chinese were the first to report it.

    As for citizens seeking treatment from the USA health system I fear the costs will be astronomical.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  41. “Most experts” would seem to not include the world’s premier virologist, Professor Didier Raoult, then? Because he thinks that COVID-19 is a treatable infection and fully interceptible in its early stages.

  42. There is some speculation that Trump might well follow the example being set by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. Israel has banned foreign visitors, is under 24 hours curfew and is effectively in lockdown

    Shalom!

  43. @gotmituns

    Yes. Actually, people were falling over dead in the streets during the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918-19. The casualties from COVID-19 are laughably minor in comparison and I would say that the people being killed by these lockdowns will by many times exceed the number killed by the virus itself. In fact I’m not convinced there has been anyone at all killed by the virus as opposed to being weakened by the virus so other pre-existing medical conditions finished them off.

  44. The National Security Agency (NSA) already has the technical ability in place that would permit monitoring of the movements of much of the U.S. population.

    Since this has been common knowledge for years already, thanks to Edward Snowden, it is fair to conclude that implicit public acquiescence to such measures is voluntary. It is easy to not participate in this surveillance scheme:

    • Don’t own a mobile phone, or at least not a smart phone with GPS location functionality.

    • If you own one, keep it turned off when you carry it with you, in case of some emergency.

    • If you want to keep it on, to receive call and message notifications, just leave it at home.

  45. Miro23 says:
    @Omegabooks

    Like the “voting is a waste of time” theme, because it IS A WASTE OF TIME! Unless you love the
    “meet the new boss same as the old boss” scenario. Voting for the “lesser of two evils” is still evil, and so is the “if you don’t vote you can’t complain” theme. The time for complaining is over.

    True enough that voting in US elections isn’t even a charade anymore.

    Hence the metaphor of the United States as a large, old an rotten tree just waiting for the right wind storm to bring it crashing down. New shoots can grow on the vacant plot.

  46. Herald says:
    @Hibernian

    Sure, Surtr may or might not be apolitical and may never have voted Republican, but so what. None of that invalidates what is an extremely accurate description of Trump.

  47. Kim says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    I use an old non-smart phone for calls and texts. But I have a tablet for reading books. It has wifi. No phone card. Can it be tracked? I imagine so.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  48. @Desert Fox

    George Orwell is rolling in his grave muttering to himself :”‘social distancing’ that’s a great phrase, why didn’t I think of that .”

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  49. Z-man says:

    The fact that Trump dodged the draft is irrelevant. Most connected people avoided the draft, Republi’tards and Dumbokratz alike.
    As far as the spread of the virus, if it wasn’t for Trump the shit lib bureaucracy would have kept flights coming in from China a lot longer. Look what happened in Italy, the shit lib politically correct ass holes that are in illegitimate control of the government let the Chinks run free in northern Italy for an extra two weeks and now Italian grandparents are paying the ultimate price.
    As Trish Regan said, on Fox no less, the controlled media is trying to hype this unfortunate event and use it as a weapon against Trump. She was fired for saying that. She hit a true ‘nerve’.

    • Agree: Desert Fox, Alfred
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Stonehands
  50. The (spin) doctor is attempting to absolve godforsaken Chinese by even dragging in the USA through the mud along with the usual suspect Israel but it’s not going to wash for it’s a new type of yellow fever. Let’s just call it for what it is: China Fever!

    • Replies: @Herald
  51. jsm says:
    @follyofwar

    That terrible mess in NYC, where they are running out of healthy healthcare workers as Washington-supplied ventilators remain in warehouses, (as reported today on Tucker Carlson), should be laid squarely at the feet of Cuomo and that clueless mayor DeBlassio, not Trump.

    Yes, indeed. The Chinese New Year parade Feb. 9, Chinatown, half a million people attending, with the first known coronavirus already in America on Jan. 20, went on as planned.

    Thanks Council Speaker Johnson (and, of course, Mayor DeBlassio, and NY Governor Cuomo — the folks who had the responsibility to cancel and chose not to.)

    https://abc7ny.com/5898745/’

    QUOTE:

    “It’s really important in this moment where everyone is understandably worried about the coronavirus, we need to be factual, we need to be scientific, and we need to be calm,” NYC Council Speaker Corey Johnson said.

    Officials say one patient is being tested for coronavirus in New York City.

    A person under 40 years old, who had spent time in mainland China, arrived in the city on Thursday and called 911 on Friday after feeling symptoms. Early Saturday morning, an ambulance brought the patient to Bellevue Hospital.

    Oxiris Barbot, NYC Health Commissioner, says, “The patient is doing very well, stable, we are anticipating getting results from the CDC hopefully by Tuesday.”

    “I am here along with other elected officials to show support for Chinatown and for the Chinese community all across New York City, and we have heard reports that many businesses in Chinatown and in Flushing and in Sunset Park and in other parts of the city have seen a downturn in business since this news came out and this is really an important time of year because of Lunar New Year, a lot of these businesses count on an increase of business during Lunar New Year, and so we want to assure the public that we have the greatest health department in the world,” Johnson said.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  52. “In spite of all the ideologically driven background clutter, genuinely knowledgeable medical authorities come down overwhelmingly promoting the view that the virus is highly contagious and capable of spreading rapidly, making it a pandemic, and it can be exceptionally lethal to certain demographics, including the elderly and those with weakened immune systems.”

    There is nothing in the above providing anything in the way of evidence that a novel virus is, in fact, sweeping the planet. “Knowledgeable medical authorities promoting” something is only reminiscent of toothpaste advertisements and their “medical experts agree”-based endorsements of what they are selling.
    And then there is what Mr. Giraldi’s nameless authorities actually promote: that highly contagious viruses can be lethal to the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. This is simply a re-stating of an old truth. When you combine that old truth with the contempt our rulers have for the sick and the elderly you come up with the sick and elderly being used as human shields to provide, once again, cover for elite malfeasance at work in a new way.

    And speaking of ideologically-driven clutter driving one’s position and not genuine knowledge, doesn’t Mr. Giraldi also refer to Bradley Manning as “she”?

  53. BL says:
    @Lot

    The Wuhan Virus Pandemic demonstrates that Qui Bono is conspiracy theorizing for fools. Those propounding an iteration of it, admittedly or not, are engaged, like PG, in Congress’s Revise and Extend.

    Conspiracy Theories are exercises in Reductionism. The current pandemic simply isn’t susceptible to such a process, except as a running process of selection for ignorance, low-IQ or intractable Bias Confirmation.

    That’s why PG began with a defensive mumble paragraph.

    Consider two truisms. First, any high level conspiracy wholly integrated in the planning the reaction of all relevant parties after execution. Second — and it really is a different way of saying the first, there is no functional connection between the subject matter attack/incident/event and the reaction of those relevant parties. Thus Iran’s Lockerbie bombing of Pan Am 103 payback for the USG’s Vincennes shoot down of Iran Air 655 was attributed to Libya, eventually by all concerned, even Libya!

    In other words, while it’s fun as an exercise, conspiracy theorizing is a fool’s errand.

    This has proved almost immediately the case with this pandemic. So far, every state has responded in character, if you will. It originated in China, and since its CCP draconian measures met with some containment success, the response bar was set for the rest of the world.

    The irony is that there is nothing at all new to CCP China’s actions. It’s standard operating procedures for communist states. Secrecy followed by brutal measures without regard to always ignored anyway liberties. It’s how Cuba was Best In Show with AIDS/HIV, which, believe me, everyone learned from but never cited behind the curtain.

    I could run through every other country’s reaction — good, bad or indifferent at this point, and with few exceptions they have responded in character in terms of the resources and human capital they bring to bear, and permissible countermeasures.

    In the case of the United States, many are missing how monumentally capable we are when engaged in a “war” effort. Mark my words, soon enough Costco is going to be selling personal ventilators or even home ICUs if the pants pissers desire it. We’re almost there on home testing for the virus. Swab yourself and send it in every day if that floats your boat.

    Most importantly, the US has travelled many miles in a few short weeks on balancing health and the economy. CCP China detonated theirs so everyone else latched onto what is clearly “a cure worse than the problem.”

    The Democrats and their Allied Media are the dog chasing the car that finally caught it in terms of shutting down the economy and crashing markets as a predicate to removing Trump. Yet at most only 20% of Democrats, all Beltway, remain committed to that plan. The rest of us, including most Democrats, are unwilling to sacrifice all for their partisan madness.

    I seem to be the only one who noticed the Democrats and their Allied Media crash and burn over the last few weeks. The Biden/Sanders “This is the moment for a wholesale socialist restructuring” was immediately memory-holed. Pelosi was snapped like a butter bean — told what time it was, when she attempted to hijack the Senate’s bipartisan emergency legislation, replacing it with their plan to destroy the economy by keeping it shutdown until November, with the citizenry dependent on their largesse for ever more.

    Just as Americans over the last three years have patiently insisted that we’re attached to our Constitutional Republic thingie, including elections, when it comes to the POTUS, they are not going to put themselves at the mercy of a faction of the Democrats and their Allied Media through comprehensive, CCP China-like, dependence on their (non-existent) good graces.

    Trump, a real POTUS, will reopen the economy and jurisdictions as practicable in weeks, not months, time. Medical services will be deployed as needed in an effort to keep them from becoming overwhelmed. Period. End of Story.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Meimou
    , @dimples
  54. It’s a globalist “planned-demic” ,with an agenda , using international, massmedia “fear porn” and using the seasonal flu-renamed the Coronavirus to carry out the plan. Much of the agenda is revealed in the massive , spending bill just signed into law by Trump. I say “globalist” because it appears that all the World’s elites and their puppet leaders appear to be in on it , whether it’s Trudeau in Canada ,Xi in China, Johnson in the UK, Trump in the US, Macron in France , Giuseppe Conte in Italy, Putin In Russia, Modi in India etc. They are all members of secret societies connected to Freemasonry ,President John Quincy Adams warned Americans about Freemasons and their secret oaths , but his words have been ignored and forgotten.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @Paul C.
  55. Z-man says:

    And don’t get me wrong I hate his Zionist controlled middle East foreign policy but I am resigned, for the time being, to the fact that Zionists rule in occupied DC. Still they hate him because he is still more independent than any body else.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  56. melpol says:

    Hopefully those infected and cured will not be infecting others. Those cured might be infected again. China has not beaten the virus, a new great wave is coming. The Earth might be facing a doomsday virus. Only the animals and plant life will survive. God is watching and punishing us for our sins.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  57. @Brabantian

    Notice how every time that a young person dies who supposedly died from the virus, the press pounces upon the story with all guns blazing. It’s almost as if they are happy to see it, and may secretly wish it happens more, just to put all the blame on murderous Trump for wanting to restart the economy and stave of a depression.

  58. I don’t know about Italy, because their stats are much more dated, but to use the UK ONS data for 2019, the average weekly death count was roughly 11k, and of those, circa 1.4k per week were attributed to respiratory diseases. Yesterday’s count of deaths attributed to COVID-19 of 181 would represent a significant uptick of weekly numbers, even though surely a significant part of the deaths attributable now to COVID-19 would have been part of the “normal” figures of last year. Since NHS was already losing a huge number of people to respiratory diseases each week, I guess one should not be surprised they continue to do so with another virulent disease thrown into the mix.

    But truth be told, if TPTB hadn’t singled COVID-19 as the mortal threat for all times to humanity itself, we’d just think it was a moderately worse year of the flu.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  59. @Wizard of Oz

    Must have died from the CoronaVirus she caught here.

  60. @mtt1029

    Yes, I wondered whether it was insider trading technically rather than just leaving a nasty smell over their ethics as Congresscritters.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  61. @Been_there_done_that

    Or wrap it in aluminum foil when you travel. But don’t unwrap it when you arrive at your destination because it will attempt to “call home” as soon as it detects a recognizable signal.

  62. @follyofwar

    “…but in this one his case of Trump Derangement Syndrome is showing.”

    On the contrary, it’s your derangement that’s showing. Trump is Charles Manson with nukes; accept it.

  63. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s not enough to keep the phone turned off, you have to remove the battery and unseat the SIM.

    • Replies: @jsinton
  64. @Kim

    recommending this video —

    Tracking your every move is not the worst thing your phone does

    I use heavy-duty Reynolds Wrap.
    Recall that in the speech where he declared national emergency Trump said, “We have 1700 google engineers working to – – -” (implication was they were building a virus-tracking website)

    A few days ago a publicist for Samsung & other techies wrote, “5g is not linked to Covid” — 5G CANNOT harm you.

    But it’s proven that it can.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  65. The third big issue is the apparently deliberate failure of the Trump Administration to respond proactively to limit the spread of the virus. Seeking to protect the stock market more than the American public, President Donald Trump initially downplayed the impact of the virus, even calling it a “hoax” during January and February when it first appeared on U.S. soil.

    Really?

    [Published February 1, 2020]
    Trump Bans Travel from China, Orders 1st Quarantine in 50 Years

    The lib response:

    [February 7, 2020]
    Trump sinks to racist panic as China mobilizes against disease

    [MORE]

    [March 15, 2020]
    ‘Apocalyptic’: Trump’s xenophobic travel ban causes chaos at US airports

    [02/01/20]
    Biden slams Trump response to coronavirus epidemic: This is no time for “fearmongering”

    “We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus,” Biden said in Iowa Friday. “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

    [11 Mar 2020]
    Democrat Response to Coronavirus: End Trump’s Travel Bans on China, Iran

    [11 Mar 2020]
    Democrat Response to Coronavirus: End Trump’s Travel Bans on China, Iran

    House Democrats are looking to roll back the president’s authority to enact travel bans from regions of the world.

    The “No Ban Act,” introduced by Rep. Judy Chu (D-CA) and co-sponsored by 219 House Democrats, would have prevented Trump from immediately implementing a travel ban

    “This bill imposes limitations on the President’s authority to suspend or restrict aliens from entering the United States and terminates certain presidential actions implementing such restrictions,”

    Likewise, Democrat Senators Christopher Murphy (D-CT), Christopher Coons (D-DE), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) have introduced legislation to stop Trump’s recent expansion of a travel ban

    The legislation states:

    No funds, resources, or fees made available to the Secretary of Homeland Security, or to any other official of a Federal agency, by any Act of Congress for any fiscal year may be used to implement or enforce Presidential Proclamation 9983 … which restricts the entry into the United States of nationals of certain countries.

  66. Hoax or not, I wouldn’t want to get this bug. Hot toddies are waiting to be made in case. Surprisingly Mr. Giraldi left out transhuman touting globalists out of his list of culprits. Bill Gates comes to mind, and his biolab (doesn’t everyone have one?) is now one of those leading the fight. As is MIT, who at one point was allied with Jeffrey Epstein and Mr. Gates. Funny how things work. Just like the coming hyperinflation will be soon killing the little man a bit slower than the flu, while the elite will be swimming in stimulus cash to pick up any little guy assets like farm ground.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  67. ken19 says:

    “Some critics have also commented regarding the deaths of hundreds of Italians daily, suggesting that in Italy’s health care system old people were deliberately being allowed to die.”

    I, in fact, mentioned this on a post somewhere only because it was the italians themselves that commented too many old people were using what ventilators they had and they (italians) said they may stop treating those over 80 with the disease.

    And wasn’t it the Lt. Governor of Texas that just came out saying the old people might want to give up their lives so the young can enjoy booming markets.

    I doubt this will get past the censor as some others hasn’t but it is all true nonetheless.

  68. ‘In any event, the Russians are too late [with supposed disinformation] as the Democratic and Republican parties’ behavior has already convinced many Americans that voting in November will be a waste of time.”

    A big and regrettable truth.

    Not only has the world lost a lot of confidence in America over the last few years.

    America has started to lose confidence in itself.

  69. @NoseytheDuke

    Please go to davidicke.com and watch the 2 video interviews of David by Jimmy Church and Londonreal, both videos are about 2 hours long and are worth every minute, David has an analysis that is the best on what the zionist cult is doing to humanity by releasing this virus on the world.

  70. @SolontoCroesus

    Here’s why 5G and coronavirus are not connected
    Bob O’Donnell Special for USA TODAY

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2020/03/21/did-5-g-cause-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic/2873731001/

    there’s one thing you can permanently take off your concern list: 5G has no causal connection to COVID-19, contrary to several recent misguided online rumors. 

    In fact, according to a seven-year-long scientific study published just this month,* 5G has no detrimental health effects in general. **

    * https://www.icnirp.org/en/activities/news/news-article/rf-guidelines-2020-published.html
    International Commission on Non-ionizing radiation protection

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  71. @follyofwar

    if we all take a step back, we can remember, please, that there are two ways of dealing with a pandemic. let it run it’s course or quarantine. the main reason to shut everything down is not to reduce death in the aggregate but rather to keep the numbers at a steady, lower pace…..did you get that? the point is to keep the numbers of cases from overwhelming the hostpitals. there is a corollary to that……the lock down will mean that the spread of the disease will last LONGER than if left to run out on it’s own. if you read about what sweden has done you will get the distinct impression that they are irresponsible and are putting the world at risk for letting the virus(not pandemic) run it’s course.

    the only people to blame are people in the media who report, without question, whatever someone smarter than themselves tells them to.

    please, at some point in the next few months, someone has to ask….where are all those millions upon millions of dead people you guys kept telling us about?

  72. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Surtr

    Are you running a fever, not from COVIDITIS but from a bit too much TV gaslighting that’s apparently now running 24/7 ? Sounds like it, Surtr. Get away from the TV and get some fresh air. Calm down for starters, even if as Mr Giraldi implies, there’s likely a positive correlation between the severity of the pandemic on the one hand and the likelihood is was manufactured in a lab and either intentionally or accidentally released—and being re-released as needed to keep the world’s population anesthetized while economic organ harvesting goes unabated.

    Because we have no knowledge one way or the other, the canonical law of insufficient reason requires we give equal probabilities to the natural versus the introduced hypotheses. The fact that Fox News and CNN are suppressing the views of many of the world’s top epidemiologists challenging WHO and the data with non-stop fear mongering is now conclusive circumstantial evidence they’re both working for the same international banking cabal that’s using the pandemic as a stalking horse to decimate our standard of living unnoticed while further enriching the transnational banking cabal. And because Fox News is a de facto propaganda organ of Israel’s Likud Party and of its neocon fifth column in this county, it does somewhat suggest its owner’s complicity as Dr. Giraldi suggests may be the case.

  73. Hibernian says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    Don’t think Surtr is a Duck-Duck-Go kind of guy.

  74. @onebornfree

    Excellent and most astute comment. I read that essay from Gary Barnett as well, and recommend the great work that James Corbett is doing.

    Of course, will the gov’t/media complex even report the spikes in suicides, drug OD’s, etc? They surely won’t connect them to the panic they’ve caused, and will never accept responsibility. As we know, just as in war, if it is not reported, it didn’t happen.

  75. @9/11 Inside job

    The zionist NWO cult has the MSM going 24/7 pushing the hype and hysteria on the American people, pushing the fear and terror, we are a nation of sheep being herded into the slaughter house!

    This is what General MacArthur said about America: I am concerned for the security of our great nation, not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious force working within. Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear, kept us in a continous stampede of patriotic fervor with the cry of grave national emergency!

    This is what the zionists have done to America with the coronavirus and previously with the destruction of the World Trade Center, keeping us in fear and hsyteria for their goal of a zionist One World Government!

    Read the Protocols of Zion and read the book The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed, can be had on amazon.com, both these lay out the plan for zionist control that is happening right now using the coronavirus as the excuse!

    • Agree: Robjil, Paul C.
    • Thanks: 9/11 Inside job
  76. @John Chuckman

    How often have you cast a vote with more than a negligibly infinitesimal expectation that it will be rewarded by making the time taken to vote worthwhile, apart from it advertising you as a conscientious citizen? So, given that you are an intelligent and logical person you would almost never vote other than to show solidarity with those virtuous citizens who would tick you off with “but what if everyone acted that way?”.So what’s new or different?

    • Replies: @John Chuckman
  77. @flaart bllooger

    I prefer to use the term “planned-demic” rather than pandemic , I picked it up from Jeff Berwick at the “Dollar Vigilante” , I believe he’s trying to sell you something but he has had some good and spot-on analyses of the Coronavirus psyop.

  78. @John Chuckman

    Yes, the democratic and republican parties have confirmed that they are part of the Coronavirus psyop and that they are “two wings of the same bird of prey”.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  79. @flaart bllooger

    please, at some point in the next few months, someone has to ask….where are all those millions upon millions of dead people you guys kept telling us about?

    that’s a question for Wally.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
  80. Meimou says:
    @Longfisher

    No scientist like myself would favor or even consider the plight of the markets compared to the plight of the people. I guess that’s because I was trained to care for people, even those with meager means, more so than to cow-tow to the rich.

    1.There are plenty of scientist who say covid is being overblown.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200324115924/https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

    2. If the economy shuts down alot more people will die than from this “pandemic”

  81. So if this was a natural virus that made itself into a very deadly strain could it not make itself into an even far deadlier strain and then again decide to make itself so lethal as to kill nearly all life on earth?
    Clearly a man made deadlier strain for the purpose of killing and intimidating. The message sent was: “you better let us rule the world or face bombs and/or deadly viral sanctions.”

  82. Meimou says:
    @BL

    Conspiracy Theories are exercises in Reductionism. The current pandemic simply isn’t susceptible to such a process, except as a running process of selection for ignorance, low-IQ or intractable Bias Confirmation.

    To you chocolate eaters, the difference between conspiracy and conspiracy theory is what has the blessing of the official narrative.

    The 911 OS is simply a conspiracy because is was the offical narrative.

    Facts contradicting the 911 OS are “conspiracy theories”.

    Yes we get it, anyone who questions the covid19 nonsense is a low IQ moron.

    • Replies: @BL
  83. @Old and Grumpy

    Bill Gates hosted the World Economic Forum for an event called Event 201 Coronavirus Pandemic on October 18, 2019, so they knew in October 2019 that they were going to release the coronavirus on the world at that point, these bastards created it and released it on humanity!

  84. cranc says:

    Dr. John Iaonnidis of Stamford below. I am sure Giraldi will have him down as an ‘ideologue’ or some such, but he is nothing of the sort as far as I can tell. There is an unsettled (and unsettling) debate about just how serious a virus this is, and anyone writing about it responsibly should acknowledge the fact of that debate. The lead UK government advisor on this matter has downgraded his predictions of UK Covid fatalities from about 600,000 to around 5,000. That is a reduction of well over 99% in the prediction in just a matter of days.
    This latter point is mainstream news yet only a tiny minority seem to be raising concerns about a possible disproportionate response. Dr. Iaonnidis did and does, carefully and clearly:

  85. Rurik says:
    @Surtr

    In America, the CIA allows the peoples data to be gathered, distributed, and sold without their consent and protection.

    It’s not the CIA that ‘allows’ it, rather it’s the CIA that uses such data.

    It’s the politicians that allow it, and the Bovinus Americaus that allows them to allow it, by their determined collective, willful intellectual apathy and ubiquitous moral cowardice.

    I’d post a photo of a cow’s face, but that would be unfair to cows.

  86. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jimmy The Cop

    Doxycycline, mefloquine, chloroquine.

    These are all anti malarials! Can somebody please tell me why the most popular anti malarials are all showing activity against coronavirus?

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  87. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous

    and being re-released as needed to keep the world’s population anesthetized while economic organ harvesting goes unabated.

    very astute

    conclusive circumstantial evidence they’re both working for the same international banking cabal that’s using the pandemic as a stalking horse to decimate our standard of living unnoticed while further enriching the transnational banking cabal.

    while surreptitiously wiping away the last shreds of our (by now), all but eviscerated Constitutional protections.

    In order, (just like with the Patriot Act following 9/11) ~ to keep us safe.

    https://news.trust.org/item/20200327213427-xshb7

  88. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    to use the UK ONS data for 2019, the average weekly death count was roughly 11k, and of those, circa 1.4k per week were attributed to respiratory diseases. Yesterday’s count of deaths attributed to COVID-19 of 181 would represent a significant uptick of weekly numbers

    181 times 7 equals 1,267. That’s less than the 1.4k per week figure. Also remember that UK is very seasonal and more people die in winter. Did you already correct for this?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  89. @Wizard of Oz

    Well, that’s certainly a different way of looking at it.

    I think I can say my votes have always gone towards the person who would best represent some of my values.

    We do like to see something of ourselves in our leaders.

    I’ve never voted believing there would be big change if only my candidate won.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  90. Robjil says:
    @jsm

    They couldn’t get into fear broadcasting it until Purim ended.

    [MORE]

    Purim was March 9-11 this year. March 9th Queen Esther day, March 10th Purim day, March 11th Jerusalem Purim.

    This is 911 part 2. Ironic this Purim happened on March 9-11 this year.

    I was in NYC on March 7th. No big fears. People eat in restaurants like nothing. Subways no problem. Suddenly a “huge” problem for NYC after March 11th.

    NYC schools shut down on March 16th to April 2oth. NYC schools never like to shut down for anything.

    March 10, Purim day, was the first hysteria with Covid-19 in the NYC region. The hysteria has building up ever since.

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/cautious-optimism-from-nys-first-experiment-in-covid-19-containment-new-rochelle/2347058/

    New Rochelle, in Westchester County, was the first place in New York to see community spread of the virus, after resident Lawrence Garbuz tested positive on March 2. All eyes were on the city as cases ballooned rapidly, and on March 10 Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced what seemed like rigorous measures at the time — a 1-mile “containment zone” starting March 12 and running two weeks.

    I mention all this because I have been noticing Purim related events since 9 11. 2003- war on Iraq started on Purim, 2011 war on Libya started on Purim, 2019 Israel is “given” Golan Heights by ZUS on Purim. So I wonder every Purim what will happen. We all know now what “happened” this Purim.

    Before all this, in late Feb. and early March, Iblid was the “big” thing. I thought a “gift” of Iblid to Zturkey would be the “gift”. The world got a the biggest Purim gift ever instead.

  91. Oh, brother. Phil, are you really still inside the Republicrat box.

    The better question is CUI BONO. The endgame is really full spectrum dominance. A mandatory vaccine with a nanochip for satellite tracking.

    Don’t know if such a discussion will be allowed here.

    • Replies: @Herald
  92. BL says:
    @Meimou

    I agree with you, the 9/11 official story is a conspiracy theory as are all the unofficial ones.

    But 9/11 was, by universal agreement, a criminal conspiracy in some form. The same isn’t necessarily true of this or any other infectious disease outbreak.

    In other words, whereas with the attacks on 9/11 the argument has been and always will be about the contours of the conspiracy, we don’t have any real basis to conclude the virus originating in Wuhan wasn’t naturally occurring.

    This, by the way, is distinguished from pursuit of long-standing agendas by all concerned post-outbreak.

  93. Herald says:
    @Really No Shit

    The (spin) doctor is attempting to absolve godforsaken Chinese by even dragging in the USA through the mud along with the usual suspect Israel but it’s not going to wash

    Really, no shit.

  94. @Anonymous

    No attempts at adjustments or corrections were made for seasonal variation.

    The ways the authorities and MSM are putting the figures out there makes one think they might actually want us to believe the COVID-19 deaths are on top of what they ordinarily get. Some are, but certainly not all.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  95. Agent76 says:

    Mar 28, 2020 The Greatest Depression

    Now the world is being led into the Age of Biological Terror with a controlled demolition of the economy that is already causing unprecedented carnage across markets and around the globe.

  96. the mainstream media is reluctant to embrace conspiracy theories

    Russia hacked our election

    • LOL: NoseytheDuke
  97. Last night, & while the entire White House was occupied with Coronovirus, and done with informing citizens about the goodness of their wartime counterpunch action, I climbed the telephone pole, and like Israelis, I tapped President Trump’s phone conversation with China’s Party General Secretary, Xi Jinping.

    Of course, am in danger more so than usual, 😳, and following, fyr, is the conversation’s transcript. (Note: Xi’s English is a work-in-progress & subsequently, I did the best job possible)

    Hi Xi! You are doing an incredible job at protecting the Chinese people from Coronovirus, that was made in China.

    You too are doing a great job too. (Sigh) That’s despite your catchy proclamations to America’s sinking proletariat about ‘Kung Flu.’ Congratulations, Mister President.

    Thank you. Was rather easy jingo because of how many Americans still love to sing & dance to the song, ‘Kung Fu fighting.’ Hm? I might even use that tune durin my campaign’s next possible Townhall revival.

    Excellent culture you have, but is too bad about elections, eh, Donald? The Democrat Party nags, haha, we have only One Party.

    Yeah, but we’re working very hard on those annoyances.

    And I like how your State Coolie Media is compliant, and millions of American family households tend to believe Coronovirus was not US/Israel made. You are a lucky War President, Donald…, great job!

    (Sigh) The real ‘lucky’ sitting Peking duckies are the Iranian nutjobs who are still alive.

    Speaking of nut jobs, Donald, can you please talk with tbe Pentagon, and ask them if my country can be downsized from being America’s # 1 Enemy.?

    Okay, Xi, that is, of course, given you let Goldman Sachs Group do untethered investment business in China, and then we could have a great deal!

    Yes, I know, Donald. We like how clever Jews are with money but Chinese Politburo also know, uh…, and how is it said in English? They will ‘fuck” you for a buck. Haha!”

    Yes, Xi. I am not stupid, and as you see, I give Israel everything it wants; money, Golan Heights, WMD’s. I parked the US embassy in Jerusalem, I uphold endless threats to attack Iran, maintain Holocaust goodness, I hate Islamo-Fascists, do business with KSA, I support laws against antisemitism, etcetera, etcetera. Oh Christ, Xi, I do lots of obligatory & smart stuff like that! Got that?

    I get it, Donald. Prime Minister Netanyahu and me don’t meet, but Chinese still get to manage a seaport on Israel’s coast.

    That deal even puzzled my Treasury Secretary Mnuchin, but we know Jews are brilliant businessmen, and Netanyahu always does an incredible job!

    Do you think America will return to Mall shopping, by Easter?

    My gut says ‘yes,’ Xi. Fyi, my CIA Director, Gina, reported how lots of patriotic ‘stay-at-home’ American consumers are now on the brink of suicide.

    Oh, heh-heh. Her name rhymes with mine. ‘Gina, Xi.’ Haha. How do you Americans say, ‘that’s cool, that’s cool!’

    I like you Xi. Not all communists are bad!

    I like you too, Donald. Not all croney capitalists are bad.

    Bye’bye, have a nice day, but please no more warlike sanctions? Otherwise, you can call me anytime.

    Right back at ‘ya, Xi! Will call back soon, and we talk about GM’s new ventilator product line.

    Okay, Mr. President, shalom! And here’s wishing ‘good’ fortune’with your administration’s takeover of the US economy’s means of production.

    Thank you, Xi. Oh yeah! Power energes from the barrel of a Coronovirus Spray Gun, and GM ownership knows that. Haha. Bye-bye.”

    Click.

    • LOL: Assad al-islam
  98. @Surtr

    Surtur, sorry to inform you buddy, but you are occupying LOT’s space. He’s the one that replies to Mr Giraldi’s column first and as he’s jewish, you should respect that.

    • LOL: NoseytheDuke
  99. Hey Lot, if you haven’t figured it out yet, questioning Putin or dearly beloved mother Russia is akin to telling one of the many Christians here that the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is poppy cock.

  100. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    “Can somebody please tell me why the most popular anti malarials are all showing activity against coronavirus?”

    They drive Zinc [an essential cell nutrient]into the cells.

    In clinical trials, Zinc [Zn] has stopped all pre-existing corona virus’ , so there is every reason to believe that it works against this newer strain, regardless of whether it is manmade or natural.

    Most Americans apparently already get around 10mg of Zn daily in their daily diet, so for specific health needs [eg as an ant-viral] many alternative health professionals suggest a total, short term dosage level between 20- and 60 mg. daily .

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-03-26-can-zinc-help-fight-covid-19.html

    Regards, onebornfree

    p.s. I have personally used both Zinc [Picolinate form] capsules and Zinc lozenges [amongst other natural remedies, such as high dosage vitamin C, and various herbal remedies – I steer clear of all pharmaceuticals], to successfully treat various colds and flu , for more than 25 years, with great success. But then again, I’ve been a fitness and health “fanatic” for even longer than that. Pumpkin seeds are also high in Zn.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  101. Trumpstein on the “rigged Media”: “It never ends.” 😳

    When will it ever end? Please see Ms. Malkin, the wife of Ashkenazi Jew, speak, below?

    • Thanks: ziggurat
    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
  102. Sean says:

    The virus is being “blamed” on China, a global competitor of the United States.

    It takes two to tango (the scare quotes are counter productive if you think China at all blameless ). China has announced a temporary ban on all foreigners. That they are banning air travel into China by foreigners suggests they have already beaten COVID 19 transmission within China. Any virus from China (as the 1918 Spanish Flu was) is much worse threat if you believe the Chinese about it. They announced on the 7th Jan that they had identified the virus as a Coronavirus, but it did not spread between people.

    As is often the case, Trump has gotten the ball rolling through his usual verbal toxicity, calling the virus the Chinese Virus or Wuhan Virus. Other Republicans have picked up on the theme, leading to the inevitably Democratic progressive wing complaints that such language was “racist.

    Both parties’ establishments are benefiting from investment in China (Biden’s is very direct) so a little raw populism is called for.

    The fact i[s], there is no evidence whatsoever that China in any deliberate way either created or unleashed the virus.

    The disease is called COVID-19. The virus that causes it is called Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) by the World Health Organisation. The ‘-2’ is there because of the Nov 2002 appearance of the previously unknown SARS-CoV in Guangdong. This original SARS-CoV was due to a virus in a bat that got into a civet (sort of weasel) then a human. Hence SARS-CoV-2 is very closely related to the virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which appeared eighteen years ago

    Smuggled pangolins have been found to carry viruses closely related to the one sweeping the world. The most trafficked animal in the world, pangolins are prized for their horny scales Scientific examination of SARS-CoV-2’s structure indicates it is probably due to the November 2019 recombination of a bat virus with one from a pangolin. Pangolin scales are an, ahem, ‘masculinity enhancer’, or so the Chinese seem to think. The Chinese knew very well that dangerous viruses were being created by their bizarre habits of eating wildlife and using their body parts for quack remedies supposed to ameliorate their sexual shortcomings.

    They did nothing. The main racism against Chinese is sexual with Chinese men getting little play in the mating market and increasingly seeing Western (and even African) men being attractive to Chinese women. In SARS-CoV-2, the Angiotensin Converting Enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor binding domain is from a pangolin, and that component of the chimerical virus is the key to how it so easily enters human cells to infect them. There is a particularly large amount of ACE-2 in the testis, nasal tissue is also rich in ACE-2. First symptom of COVID-19 is loss of smell, that shows the virus is infecting neurons. ‘Whither Coronavirus?’ The balls and brains of Westerners.

    https://qrius.com/novel-coronavirus-could-become-increasingly-virulent-in-detention-camps/
    COVID-19 may evolve greater virulence by circulating in a population of people kept in close, unhygienic quarters, such as the estimated one million Uighur Muslims being held in detention camps in Xinjiang, north-west China. To understand how this would be possible, it’s helpful to look at how one instance of influenza — the 1918 flu pandemic — evolved its extreme level of virulence

    Pretty obvious where the second wave is coning from (“The pandemic peaked in the U.S. during the second wave, in the fall of 1918. This highly fatal second wave was responsible for most of the U.S. deaths attributed to the pandemic”). China is secretly pleased, they beat it, and their model is proven superior. It already was by the criterion applied by the elite in the US and rest of the West: China is the growth machine making them money.

  103. @Lot

    Lot!!!!! Stop watching Hollywood movies.

    It doesn’t only disaster your mind to think but also you become a Pelosi’s announcer.

    The question is, who wins now and who will be the winer after the story

    with the virus ends!!!!

  104. Karel says:
    @Lot

    Lot manufactured the virus in his garage just next to a chinese takeaway.

  105. @Been_there_done_that

    Even the older “dumb” mobile phones can be tracked, not by GPS, but by triangulation of cell tower reception. Turning them “off” is ineffective in hiding your location, because even when turned off, some circuitry is still powered and sending occasional “pings” to cell towers.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  106. @Anonymous

    Notice the rescue package that the Federal Reserve announced. They are creating money out of thin air, as usual, and they are now adding to their mandate the right to buy corporate bonds and stocks directly instead of using the Plunge Protection Team to indirectly influence the market. This is outright nationalisation of the American economy through the creation of more debt, except that it is not the U.S. government that will possess these private assets but the Wall Street banksters. Soon they will embark on their ultimate goal of creating a one world currency of a digital type which would make the Orwellian nightmare proceed in a way that Orwell could have never imagined, thus surpassing by far the kind of control that the SWIFT and IBAN are putting at the disposal of the PTB.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  107. TG says:

    Minor point: “and will likely arrange bailouts of some industries that will then acquire the government as a partner”. WORNG!

    The government will pour – is pouring – money into all manner of sectors, but will get no ownership. Oh, a few bailed-out industries will have the fig leaf of “warrants” and nominal partial government ownership, but these warrants will never be exercised and will be bought out for pennies on the dollar when nobody is looking.

    And we are already giving trillions to big finance, no questions asked, no reporting, no nothing. It’s “Cash for trash” where our government pays hard cash for worthless bits of paper. In this context, worrying about the increase in government debt by handing out a few pennies to private citizens seems churlish – if that even happens. Remember how under Obama, the banks got trillions in bailouts (yes really, TARP was largely a sideshow) but all that promised help for private homeowners? Even though the funds were nominally allocated, somehow the government just could never get around to actually doing it…

  108. @John Chuckman

    We’ve had compulsory voting in Australia (I.e.getting crossed off for turning up or the equivalent for a postal vote) for at least 100 years. Though the fine for not voting is derisory and easy to get out of, about 90 per cent vote validly at general elections, not so many at a by election unless it is critical to the control of the House. So, good citizens obey the law and I remember my very proper father being quite cross with me when at about the age of 22 I airily said that, since we lived in a safe seat (for our party as it happened) it wasn’t worth the bother of voting. Since then money has been paid to the parties in proportion to their votes so one has one small reason for voting even in a safe seat -and one for not voting: either to support one’s party or to save the taxpayer money.

    The Economist last year BTW put Australia’s electoral system (including what the Brits call the alternative vote) on the ground that it favours the moderate centre which is probably true

  109. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    In spite of all the ideologically driven background clutter, genuinely knowledgeable medical authorities come down overwhelmingly promoting the view that the virus is highly contagious and capable of spreading rapidly, making it a pandemic, and it can be exceptionally lethal to certain demographics, including the elderly and those with weakened immune systems.

    LOL. Unz’s CIA hack author being a “genuinely knowledgeable” authority when it comes to deciding which medical authorities are “genuinely knowledgeable.”

    But one does not need to be a medical authority, “genuinely knowledgeable” or otherwise to know for a fact that Covid19 is being hyped to create a panic-driven stock market and economic meltdown, achieving thereby the most massive transfer of wealth from the mass of small-time savers and investors to elite insiders since the Great Depression.

    How can one know for a fact that the corona virus panic is a government/media created scam? Just assess the data for yourself instead of listening to pontificating elite mouthpieces such as Giraldi for an interpretation.

    What will you find? That Covid19 is about one tenth as lethal as the seasonal flu, and kills mainly the same demographic as the season flu, which explains the 81 year average age at death of Coronavirus-related deaths in Italy.

    Furthermore, what you will see is that, as Trump stated, like the seasonal flu, the novel coronavirus Covid19 will fade away like a morning mist as the spring advances.

  110. @Wizard of Oz

    The big story about Congress is the one no-one has reported on (or apparently even thought about).

    What are the standard procedures for Congress in the event of a pandemic?

    crickets, crickets.

    Here is a clue:

    https://www.atomicheritage.org/history/greenbrier-bunker

    Yup–go to the (new secret) bunker.

    Oops–Congress reacted so slowly that they could not go to the bunker because members were exposed/infected.

    Further verification:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8162937/Coronavirus-drives-army-command-teams-infamous-Cheyenne-mountain-bunker.html

    Yup–the key military units are in a bunker.

    The incredible incompetence of Congressional leaders is a dead giveaway–even after their secret briefing they _still_ didn’t _get it_.

    You can’t fix stupid.

  111. Herald says:
    @Aleksander

    A mandatory vaccine with a nanochip for satellite tracking.

    I’m not sure that most of, or even the more informed, commenters on UR really want to talk about the
    likelihood of a campaign to make the CV-19 vaccine mandatory.

    This possible compulsory aspect is perhaps purposely low key at the moment, but listen to the clamour for mandating, when the life saving and lockdown ending vaccine is announced to be ready.

    Agreed, that some kind of chip might prove helpful for the controllers. Perhaps as likely, the vaccine might contain some form terminator technology, that would rather thoughtfully ensure that old age wouldn’t be dragging on interminably.

    • Replies: @Galaxy Cruiser
  112. @SolontoCroesus

    Please read the book , Under an Ionized Sky: From Chemtrails to Space Fence Lock

    [MORE]

    k

    Down by Elana Freeland, it can be had on amazon.com and her website is elanafreeland.com.

    Also go to the site stopthecrime.net by Deborah Tavares and click on the headline that takes you to her youtube channel and watch her videos.

    These are 2 very very brave women, for as Votaire said, it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.

  113. @Wizard of Oz

    Yes, Thanks, I was aware voting is compulsory in Australia, and I’ve never been averse to the concept. A basic citizenship duty and all that.

    I wasn’t aware that government financially supports the parties.

    I very much favor that.

    Virtually all private money should be excluded from politics. It is poisonous in its effects, but America’s Supreme Court ruled that “money is free speech.”

    Which is about as thoughtful as the 1857 Dred Scott decision, a slavery case.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  114. US money creation on a huge scale may well prove to be a step towards the inevitable end of the dollar’s privileged reserve-currency role.

  115. Trinity says:

    (((Ackman))), (((Leiber))), follow the NOSE, follow the NOSE, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow THE NOSE. Don’t take the Yellow Brick Road, FOLLOW THE NOSE.

    Lavon Affair
    JFK
    USS Liberty
    5 Dancing Shlomos
    WMD

    FOLLOW THE NOSE.

  116. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    And here’s a debunking of Giraldi’s pontifical pronunciation about what “genuinely knowledgeable medical authorities come down overwhelmingly” to assert.

    Stanford University Professors of Medicine, Eran Bendavid and Jay Bhattacharya, writing in the Wall St. Journal state:

    If it’s true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified. But there’s little evidence to confirm that premise—and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high.

    How do they reach that conclusion?

    By reviewing the evidence already available from serological testing on the prevalence of Covid19 infection, which is vastly greater than currently promoted epidemiological models assume.

    So, yes, the novel corona virus has killed thousands and will kill thousands more. But the daily death toll of a few hundred worldwide is negligible in relation to the 14,089,680 Year 2020 deaths reported worldwide until a few minutes ago.

    What’s more, with an average age (in Italy) of 81 years and with, in most cases, multiple other deadly conditions, the great majority of those who have died of covid19 would, had they been spared the coronavirus, soon have died of something else.

    The pandemic panic is the result of a colossal hoax.

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  117. @Joe Levantine

    Hey Joe!

    Yes, agree, “Orwellian nightmare proceeds,” intensifies. (Zigh)
    The near choiceless dumb goyim succumb, prefer to offer united puppy Love offerings to Big Brother; consume, and buy into Trumpstein’s nightmare package.👹

    Fyi, last night, one of my closest buddies chided, “So you won’t take the money our president & Congress gives you, eh Chuck?” 🤔

    Replied, “Will take it, Frank, & I’ll eat from the Jewish money tree, and hope to Christ that the tribe never becomes mine.”

    Yes, “One world digital currency” is in plain view, Joe. But a favor. Can you please explain the meaning of acronyms, “SWIFT and IBAN are putting at the disposal of the PTB.”

    Meanwhile, the Jews will exact a huge price, “Good Feelies,”* and thank you very much for the Levant levitation.

    * A. Huxley, “Brave New World,” supplements to ward off misery, isolation.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Joe Levantine
  118. @ChuckOrloski

    When will it ever end? Please see Ms. Malkin, the wife of Ashkenazi Jew, speak, below?

  119. @NoseytheDuke

    The middle class Boomers will see their retirement funds largely disappear.

    If you are referring to personal retirement savings, that may or may not be true, depending on how that has been invested. Those that have retired, at least those who are astute, have the majority in cash, or very low risk investments. It won’t be just middle class boomers that will take the hit, it will be everyone not in the top 5%. Your house that is mortgaged will plummet in value, and you’ll either be stuck with a mortgage, or have to declare bankruptcy. We’re all f*cked, the only question is how much?

  120. AL. says:

    “[T]here is no evidence whatsoever that China in any deliberate way either created or unleashed the virus.”

    Why is it necessary that anyone in China deliberately created or unleashed the virus for us to be able to refer to it by its place of origin? Nobody in Santa Ana deliberately unleashes the Santa Ana winds.

    It makes sense to settle on a name that, now and in the future, will immediately communicate to the average person which virus is being referenced. “SARS-CoV-2” won’t accomplish that; neither will “Chinese virus” because there have been many of them. Therefore, I favor “Wuhan virus.”

    • Replies: @DaveE
  121. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @CanSpeccy

    And I said something else, which seems to have been censored, perhaps because of my characterization of author Giraldi, a characterization that I here omit — or perhaps my comment was lost due to a technical glitch.

    In any case, here’s what I said, minus my characterization of distinguished author, Giraldi:

    In spite of all the ideologically driven background clutter, genuinely knowledgeable medical authorities come down overwhelmingly promoting the view that the virus is highly contagious and capable of spreading rapidly, making it a pandemic, and it can be exceptionally lethal to certain demographics, including the elderly and those with weakened immune systems.

    But one does not need to be a medical authority, “genuinely knowledgeable” or otherwise to know for a fact that Covid19 is being hyped to create a panic-driven stock market and economic meltdown, achieving thereby the most massive transfer of wealth from the mass of small-time savers and investors to elite insiders since the Great Depression.

    How can one know for a fact that the corona virus panic is a government/media created scam? Just assess the data for yourself instead of listening to pontificating elite mouthpieces for an interpretation.

    What will you find? That Covid19 is about one tenth as lethal as the seasonal flu, and kills mainly the same demographic as the season flu, which explains the 81 year average age at death of Coronavirus-related deaths in Italy.

    Furthermore, what you will see is that, as Trump stated, like the seasonal flu, the novel coronavirus Covid19 will fade away like a morning mist as the spring advances.

    • Replies: @anon
  122. @Z-man

    The fact that Trump dodged the draft is irrelevant.

    There is no “fact” that he “dodged the draft”. What you are suggesting is that a physician risked his license to write a false medical report that could be easily be dis-proven. The MDs out there who would do that are as scarce as rocking horse shit. Did Arlo Guthrie “dodge the draft” by pleading guilty to illegal dumping?
    There’s enough not to like about Trump without spouting mindless drivel about his “dodging the draft”.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  123. @Been_there_done_that

    Most vehicles manufactured have onboard GPS/ComputerUSB link to 24hr emergency services such as GM’s OnStar service which can be traced to location if need be. Ditching a phone for a vehicle to travel is not going to solve the tracing ability conundrum.

    Unless one bugs out on foot without any sort of linked GPS they are still traceable from a modern vehicle.

    Why would anyone in the population need to turn off their phone?

    Criminals & journalists would be the only people that might need to disguise their whereabouts IMHO.

    I’m a Grumpy Marxist and cannot fathom a need to worry about the man knowing where everyone is 24/7/365?

    Who cares if BIG Brother knows diddly squat about anything?

    BIG Brother is merely a database.

    RW

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  124. Please go to stevepieczenik.com and watch the video interview of Steve Pieczenik, this is very important interview.

  125. anastasia says:

    In Italy, the government has undertaken to study the first hundred cases of people who were said to have died from corona virus. The government’s Medical Agency said that they can only confirm that two died ofthis virus of the first hundred who were originally included in the statistics.

    The Chinese are also back-pedaling on the numbers. The Chinese are now saying that they will not include those who test positive who never had symptoms in the statistics for corona virus. The Italians are saying that the medically compromised who died, cannot be said to have died from corona virus or Covid-19

    So, if these people are now going to be excluded, then where is your contagion? Where are you victims?

    The people who will be counted in the statistics are those who have had mild symptoms who test positive, and those who test positive and can’t be found to have died of anything else.

    Take those people out, and you got nut-tin-honey, except the catastrophic economic consequences, that, in my opinion, will cause alot of deaths. And when stores reopen will there still be paranoia; will children sit and visit with their lonesome relatives? Now, they have a great excuse not to visit Mom and Dad.

    Again, I will say that in 2018, 61,000 people died of the flu in the US, and 830,000 were hospitalized in the US because of the flu.

    They were wrong about Sars, they were wrong about Mers; they were wrong about Ebola; they were wrong about Swine Flu; they were wrong about Bird Flu (if it ever existed at all), but they were so confident that they were right about Covid-19 they closed down countries and the economy. Was it truly science that caused them to do that. Was it humility?

  126. @anonymous

    If you’re not a “conspiracy theorist” these days, you just haven’t been paying attention. The weight of history strongly supports the assumption that gov’t narratives are always artful.

  127. anastasia says:

    And they are absolutely lying about New York, their so-called epicenter. There is nothing going on here in New York.

    There is a video of someone calling the City Morgue, who told them that while they built a temporary morgue in “expectation” (due to the hysteria) that more bodies will need to be stored. They said that there is no problem presently. That was no more than a few days ago, after the Elmhurst lie was told.

    There is nothing going on at the Javits Center, and no military presence seen by someone who walked around the building twice.

    You don’t have to be a genius to know that all those working in emergency rooms in New York (due to the hysteria) must wear Hazmat suits because they do not know what illness the person is coming in with. Further, hazmat suits must be worn to care for all those with respiratory illness until they are tested (due to the hysteria), and that even if those with respiratory illnesses are come up negative, I would GUESS that the hospital would still require hazmat suits for their care because of the fear of false negatives. So, how many confirmed corona virus cases are in hospitals, and how many of them are on ventilators. Doesn’t one person other than myself find it a bit suspicious that the media refuses to tell us.

    What is the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic (as redefined in 2009 by WHO). You see an epidemic with your own eyes. A pandemic is told to you by the media.

    I live in New York. There is NOTHING GOING ON HERE. For the last three weeks I have not heard one ambulance, or seen one, and I have been looking for them, and listening for their siren.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Robjil
  128. @Herald

    As a retired computer engineer, I can comment on the idea of nanochip implantation. With today’s technology, specifically battery power, no device could emit enough RF energy to be received by compatible equipment separated by a distance of over a few meters, not to mention satellites orbiting around the earth. Also, they would become inert after the battery wears down. There are however RFID chips which are tiny enough to be inserted with a vaccine injection but being passive devices they require proximity of a couple of meters to be powered by the energy of transmitting detector. This how the RFID chips work in retail stores to reduce shop lifting.

    • Replies: @Aleksander
  129. anastasia says:

    Someone should watch, as I watched, the 40 or more videos put out by the Chinese during their hysteria. It was a very glitzy propaganda production, far better than our own.

  130. Z-man says:
    @Curmudgeon

    I misspoke. He avoided the draft.
    If you understood what you were reading you would have seen that I was defending him.
    Drivel this!

  131. Dutch Boy says:
    @Dan Hayes

    A dislike for the Chinese Communist Party is commendable in anyone.

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
  132. Alfred says:
    @Galaxy Cruiser

    Put the mobile phone in a Faraday cage. You can see the possibilities on eBay.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Galaxy Cruiser
  133. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    The price to be exacted will be a drastic cut in the Western standard of living via the ramifications of hyperinflationary money printing. Shadow Stats advised a few days ago to expect reports of the economic repercussions to begin surfacing April 3, probably now that the fix in is.

    “Financial-System Insolvency Laid Bare by the Pandemic, as Circumstances Accelerate Towards a Hyperinflationary Great Depression.” Note Shadow Stats says the financial system is insolvent. As background, the economic data was already deeply recessionary prior to this pandemic that by all appearances was engineered for the purpose of concealing the greatest transfer of wealth in human history. From what I can tell it will result in that “hyperinflationary Great Depression” Shadow Stats thinks may be coming.

    Handing out hundreds of $billions in the face of reduced supply (see Cass Freight Index reduction in imports through Port of Los Angelos of 23% last month), not to mention the shut down of America, and the handing of virtually infinite no interest/no liability credit over to the very parasites responsible for the present insolvency will eventually cause massive price inflation, possibly within months. This is no government bailout of the middle class and small businesses at all, but instead Congress has just enacted a dollar for dollar inflationary equivalent of a massive new tax on wages and a literal confiscation of savings for the sole purpose of bailing out Wall Street and its evil spawn in corporate America. Our once great industrial corporations aren’t run by men from those industries, but by financial servants of Wall Street, the proof being their compensation is tied to asset stripping their companies to buy back stock further enriching themselves and that enemy within we call Wall Street.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Desert Fox
    , @Joe Levantine
  134. Robjil says:
    @anastasia

    I agree.

    I live in NYC too.

    Nothing is going on here.

    I heard and saw no ambulances too.

    It is very easy to get around in a car, since there is less traffic.

    Driving around, I never saw or heard one ambulance in the past few weeks.

  135. @Anonymous

    This is also UN Agenda 2030 in action and their green deal aka global warming fraud, for as we are brought to our knees the last of the middle class will be destroyed and so no travel for we goyim and we are being put in a prison with no bars, but a prison it will be!

    I am surprised at how gullible we Americans are, but since the zionists got away with the attack on the WTC, I guess they figured they might as go for it all, and it looks like they are going for it, and using coronavirus as the pretex.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Pft
    , @Joe Levantine
  136. @Alfred

    There you go.
    This makes any mobile phone, smart or dumb, incommunicado from any nefarious surveillance methods.
    Just make sure this product passed testing.

  137. Jim Given says:

    Did President Trump call the coronavirus itself a “hoax”?
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

    I have great respect for Mr. Giraldi, but the claim in this article is very irresponsible.

  138. Here’s an update on Putin using CoVID 19 to secure his presidency forever

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nODAGHiSNps

    • Replies: @Robjil
  139. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desert Fox

    Exactly, and thanks for adding that perspective.

  140. Robjil says:
    @Ginger bread man

    What does that matter to us in USA?

    Bloomberg had three terms as NYC Mayor. NYC mayors are only allowed to have two terms.

    Why did he get three terms? It was “special” to cover up for 9 11.

    Most people believe that he was “helping” us deal with 9 11.

    No real investigations were allowed with Bloom in power, so the culprits got away.

    Putin should have as many terms in power as needed.

    When the US reforms itself, and does not do things like 9 11.

    Then Putin can rest.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  141. Pft says:
    @Desert Fox

    They have pretty much figured out they can make a majority believe anything, no matter how ridiculous. I look forward to the alien invasion they will have us believing in soon, assuming they still have a need for psyops theater after this one takes away a big chunk of the few remaining liberties we have.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  142. @Wizard of Oz

    And as a result we too have corrupt morons and assholes in government plus there is a lot of electoral fraud in marginal seats where people vote multiple times at different locations yet are never fined and blatant dirty tricks are employed to swing results. A better democracy? Doubtful.

    We’re told that high salaries and benefits are required to attract the best yet these egotistical clods dole out taxpayer funds to industry (such as GM) without laying claim to anything in return in a no-win (for the taxpayer) situation. The Australian people should have owned everything that wasn’t branded when GM packed up and shipped out. That’s just one example.

    Australia, a former colony of Great Britain and currently a colony of the US, buys American planes and tanks that would be useless for our own defence but ideal for waging foreign wars for Israel. Sad because it’s a lovely place with some really good people (possibly including you too, Wizzy ;o)

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  143. @John Chuckman

    It sounds better than it is in practice. The funds by far go to reinforce the duopoly and it is chickenfeed compared to what the 1% kick in. Politicians are whores and cheap ones at that, both here and there.

    Clive Palmer, Gina Reinhart, Twiggy Forrest are just a few names that come to mind when considering the extent of financial corruption down under.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  144. Catdomnj says:
    @obwandiyag

    You’re surprised that the price of precious metals are going up? Especially during a crisis when the United States also just printed an extra couple trillion to pay for a a virus bailout bill?

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  145. Agent76 says:

    Mar 27, 2020 Take Care Of Yourself! Russia’s Planes Are Literally Writing “STAY AT HOME” In The Sky!

  146. Adûnâi says:

    The map is already interfering with civil liberties, as a South Korean woman told the Washington Post that she had stopped attending a bar popular with lesbians for fear of being outed. “If I unknowingly contract the virus… that record will be released to the whole country,” she said.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-tracking-citizens-phones-coronavirus-2020-3

    What is wrong with calling the corona “the Chinese virus”? American mores are so weird. Forbidden to call Negroes Negroes, Chinese diseases Chinese diseases, schizo men are now “transvestites”…

    On the one hand, you must hate Communism, but might also hate the bankers; you must love Jesus, but may also hate the Jews; you must love gays, and thus hate Muslims… But then you are not allowed to be “racist” to the said Chinese – if you hate China, you actually only hate their élite, their best, their Party – not their worst, their dregs, their traitors.

    If China responds too late – “their Communist system is inefficient, evil overlords jail brave whistleblowers”. If China responds too soon – “the virus escaped from a lab, they know it’s dangerous, it’s their fault”.

    Either way, the fat capitalist cats never do anything useful aside from speculating. Soon, they will be history.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  147. @Z-man

    Trump hitched his presidency to the pump and dump; everyone is now playing their role. It’s globally choreographed- and the virus is a convenient and expedient cover-up until the soon-to-be unveiled TIA dictatorship.

    • Agree: Agent76
  148. Paul C. says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Merkel too of course. All have taken blood oaths, doing the devil’s work. We need to drive awareness and eventually jail them all. These people are so devoid of a soul.

    https://artvoice.com/2019/03/09/the-veiled-threat-of-freemasonry-part-1-blood-oaths-bloodshed-obstruction-of-justice/

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
  149. @Pft

    Agree, I could not believe they ie Israel and the zionist controlled ZUS got away with the attack on the WTC and then forced America to go to war for Israel in the mideast, these bastards are not human , they are satanists.

    The zionists are ones pulling off this coronavirus deal on the world, and no one seems to realize this is another 911, only worse!

    Read the Protocols of Zion and get the book The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed, it is all there, the zionist plan for control of the world!

    • Agree: Robjil
  150. Paul C. says:
    @Adûnâi

    The whole system is run on “divide and conquer” by those who control both capitalism and communism. And they’ve succeeded in doing so. Same group runs both.

  151. KA says:
    @Brabantian

    This virus is more dangerous and more contagious. Look at the number of people who haven’t recovered . These people are not in regular medical floor . They are in ICU and on ventilator .
    Those on ventilators have been on for 3 weeks or more and they continue to stay dependent on it.

    We need to find out why people are not recovering and leaving hospitals. Also the data on mortality of those on ventilator is not encouraging .
    . It is overwhelming city . It is then moving and overwhelming next city .
    Flu is infectious and dangerous . But the morbidity and mortality both are less than what caused by this virus.
    In U.K., Spain France Italy and now in Japan- hospital beds are being dedicated exclusively to this virus . In NY city and now in Chicago,hospitals are being used more or less exclusively for this infection, Elective surgery and out patient getting are canceled . Above all, hospitals are running out of supplies .
    When did this happen with the flu ?

  152. dimples says:
    @BL

    “Thus Iran’s Lockerbie bombing of Pan Am 103 payback for the USG’s Vincennes shoot down of Iran Air 655 was attributed to Libya, eventually by all concerned, even Libya!”

    Are you attempting sarcasm? Yes that’s exactly what happened. Only a blind fool would suggest otherwise. It’s entirely within the character of the United States to spin the political narrative to whatever floats its boat, and force weaker states to do the same.

  153. @NoseytheDuke

    Yes, but…. In the lucky country what bad corruption in Oz has been achieved by those three? Forrest seems to be quite a do-gooder and Clive Palmer has achieved nothing good or bad but keeping Shorten from becoming PM. I don’t know how Gina Rinehart throws her weight about (though surely not to Labor, unlike say the Pratts) though I do recall counsel involved in the relevant legislation saying that Rose Porteous and Gina Rinehart were equally awful. By contrast, in America the Israel Lobby is far from the only owner of politicians and policies. Big pharma, health insurers, military-industrial complex and you are barely starting to list them.

  154. I work in the healthcare field. Here’s the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments.

    [MORE]

    This is why you’re hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That’s because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues.

    The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.

    The problem is the test is known not to work.

    It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.

    Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.

    The New Coronavirus Outbreak, COVID-19, Sounds Menacing and Is
    The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.

    And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load.

    If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if it is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you.

    If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis.

    And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen.

    Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus.

    They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive

    PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common.

    There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time.

    All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease.

    Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die.

    You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on.

    Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist.

    Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically.

    Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people, you are mislabeling your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic.

    But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways.

    1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead.

    2. You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers.

    3. You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience.

    4. You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen.

    Take these 4 simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks.

    They can not “confirm” something for which there is no accurate test.

    *

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  155. @NoseytheDuke

    “We’re told that high salaries and benefits are required to attract the best yet these egotistical clods dole out taxpayer funds to industry”

    Are you referring to politicians? Surely you don’t think that anyone who is any good would go into politics for the sort of money they earn though it would look pretty good if you were a school teacher who could get your activist spouse elected.

  156. Please spare us the nonsense. You are starting to sound like a cheap propaganda outlet.

  157. bjondo says:

    Reports say Boris Johnson tested positive.
    FtDet-19 now blamed for corruption virus.
    The Brits will now have to immolate Johnson.

    Boris matches descriptions of the red heifer.
    No 10, the third temple, can now be purified.
    City of Westminster, London, the new Jerusalem.
    Gather all Yid. Messiah will appear … in London.

    Some good can come from man-made stupidity and evil.

    Now, if we can uncover where all those trillions go.

    5 dancing shlomos

  158. Anon[762] • Disclaimer says:

    Everybody is a loser with this virus. Any nation that completely escapes it, obviously had a immunization shot pefabricated for it, and thus must have created it. Since that hasnt happened, we know it either really did arise naturally or someone made a biocontainment mistake in a lab. I read today that someone’s pet cat now has Covid19.
    In so many words: goverments ought to sign a very popular “no weaponized-pathogen” treaty when this is all over promising to never allow study of biological weapons again. The death penalty should apply to any private group doing the same. Lets hope we can get the lid back on this pandoras box together.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  159. Wielgus says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Not my field, but my understanding is that the common cold is caused by a coronavirus. If this is the case, could having the sniffles get you tested positive and you enter the statistics? Even though it is not COVID-19?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  160. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    Absolutely. I haven’t seen the world media go into this kind of overdrive since 9/11. They’ve obviously got an agenda, but I’m not sure what it is yet.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  161. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    I can’t find any per-coronavirus info about antimalarials aiding zinc uptake, so I’m suspicious about this mechanism.

    Nonetheless, i do appreciate your anecdotal reports and I’ll be inclined to try zinc supplements next time I have a cold. Thank you!

  162. Half Back says:

    It looks like the Russians -God bless them- have found a ‘cure’ for coronavirus.

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-coronavirus-outbreak/russia-claims-it-produces-drug-to-treat-covid-19-/1783292
    “””
    Russia on Saturday claimed it has created a drug, based on the antimalarial Mefloquine, to treat patients suffering from the coronavirus, known as COVID-19.

    The drug prevents virus replication in cells and as a result stops the inflammatory process caused by the virus, the Russian Federal Biomedical Agency said in a statement.

    Veronika Skvortsova, the agency’s head, said Mefloquine has to be combined with antibiotics for the maximum effect, allowing increase in the concentration of antiviral agents in blood plasma and lungs.

    “This will ensure effective treatment of patients with various degrees of coronavirus infection,” Skvortsova said.

    Earlier in the day, the Russian government announced 228 new confirmed cases of the coronavirus, bringing the total number in the country to 1,264, with six deaths. “”””

  163. geokat62 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    You may want to repost this comment under Ron Unz’s recent article on covid-19, Correctly Estimating Coronavirus Infections.

  164. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wielgus

    could having the sniffles get you tested positive and you enter the statistics? Even though it is not COVID-19?

    Exactly! Hence the number of positives rises with the number of test kits and doesn’t tell us much at all about this apparently novel coronavirus. I say apparently because, at this stage, I can’t even be so sure its novel. Has this been established beyond all doubt, or have scientists just been looking much more closely at an area that was previously considered uninteresting?

  165. @Robert Dolan

    Thanks very much, Robert! Am now sharing your experience with friends.

  166. anastasia says:

    People learned about the phony “weapons of mass destruction” and then cheer on Trump for escalating wars in Syria and Afghanistan and now Iraq.

    The anti-war people on this site have not fallen for it, and draw the right conclusions about these wars, especially after being lied to so egregiously about “weapons of mass destruction”.

    Yet, you anti-war people completely ignore the hysteria and claims of pandemic that were proven false during Swine Flu, Bird Flu, Mers, Sars, Ebola. You don’t even mention them. You refuse to scrutinize the facts in this case. – You refuse to evenlook, look swallowing whole all the obvious inconsistencies and other things that point like neon signs of another medical folly or fraud.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242147/The-false-pandemic-Drug-firms-cashed-scare-swine-flu-claims-Euro-health-chief.html

    Something wrong with you people.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @anon
  167. @Robert Dolan

    I work in the healthcare field.

    I will share your story too!

  168. @Robert Dolan

    I work in the healthcare field.

    The Emperor’s New Clothes | Full Movie | Fairy Tales For Children:

  169. @Galaxy Cruiser

    Galaxy, your RFID is old news. The techology to track is ready, it just hasn’t been “discovered” yet. They control the rollout, not us.

    • Replies: @Herald
  170. jsinton says:
    @anon

    Just wrap it in tinfoil.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  171. jsinton says:

    By May 1st, it will be clear the virus is leaving. By June 1st, everyone will wonder where the virus went. It’s very simple. It happens every year. Virus don’t like warm weather, fresh air, and sunshine.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  172. To clarify, I did not write the article posted above.

    Julian Rose at Global Research is the author, and the post included his info/credit at the bottom directly from their site, which I found here on Unz.

    Sorry for the confusion, but I thought it was important and I wanted to share it.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  173. anastasia says:

    Just what kind of shape is medicine in today?

    My Chinese brother in law is a brilliant pathologist, more brilliant than most. He worked for an international lab, and the boss told him that he has to get his numbers for cancer calls up to meet with the national average.

    Now, that is far scarier than any phony pandemic.

  174. @jsinton

    Yes sir, a good old hillbilly Faraday cage.

  175. anastasia says:

    Listen to all the lies in this video. Did these whistleblowers people come here and actually tells these lies to the US gov’t? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFvCwdfoiH8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2pi7F1DfbNPxKsMW9ZL-dt2tc2bneFEKJrzxpp-BAD7nsK_GPMhvFsd0k

    The video maker is a liar, the snippets of film she shows are lies; the whistleblowers are liars, the film of the security arrests in China are lies or at least you cannot know if they are lies. (China said they are drills, so you do not know if you are watching drills or real arrests, but the question is not that. The question is if they are drills, where did they find the time to have “drills” in the middle of a health care crisis?

    Look how they are leading us astray, all because of the folly or fraud of the people who are calling the shots here –

    corrupted medicine in league with the corrupt who are running governments. It’s a combination coming straight from hell.

  176. geokat62 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Julian Rose at Global Research is the author…

    According to JR, the article you posted above was authored by someone else, who preferred to remain anonymous:

    The following is from a medical forum. The writer, who is a widely respected professional scientist in the US, prefers to stay anonymous, because presenting any narrative different than the official one can cause you a lot of stress in the toxic environment caused by the scam which surrounds COVID-19 these days. – Julian Rose

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/manufactured-pandemic-testing-people-any-strain-coronavirus-not-specifically-covid-19/5707781

    • Replies: @Sean
  177. anastasia says:

    They will not allow any funeral services because of the quarantining, so when they tell you the bodies are piling up because of corona virus, don’t believe themm, albeit my guess is that the heathens will burn their loved ones in the name of the pandemic.

    This guy taped the Public Relations Person at the City Morgue who told him there was PLENTY OF ROOM AT THE MORGUE, and that temporary morgue was being built because of what they “expect”. Yet, the media, like the media in China, and the phony whistleblowers, were telling us that the bodies were piling up. See Crowdsourcethetruth. (I was able to watch the video, but now you have to pay to see it.)

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  178. melpol says:

    Autopsy of 2019 flu victims will reveal Covid-19 traces. Only 10 have been removed from coffins. One corpse buried in 2018 was infected with Covid-19. Fake victims of the flu were not diagnosed correctly.

  179. geokat62 says:

    Looks like Anetta Kahane beat out Barbara Lerner Spectre by a good 5 years in lecturing the dumb goyim about the benefits of mass immigration.

    “Immigration is the future!” – Anetta Kahane

    Do you (((Anetta))) would say immigration is the future of the Jewish state?

    Communist Wants Open Borders

    Description:

    This clip, from 2010, is very prescient considering the current state of Europe and that the ‘European Migrant Crisis’ took place several years afterward and the impending one on the Greek border.

    According to Wikipedia:

    “Anetta Kahane was born in East Berlin in 1954. Her father, Max Kahane, was a member of the Young Communist League and, later, the Communist party of Germany. Because her parents were Jewish and active in communism they had to flee the Nazi regime to Spain and later France. She is the sister of the film director Peter Kahane.

    Since 1998, Anetta Kahane served as the president and the founder of the Amadeu Antonio Foundation. Her organization works against xenophobia, antisemitism and right-wing extremism. In 2012 she was awarded the Moses Mendelssohn prize (de) donated by the Senate of Berlin.

    In 2015, the Amadeu Antonio Foundation followed the German Ministry of Justice’s invitation to take part in a task force against hate speech on social media.”

    Every. Single. Time.

  180. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    They’ve obviously got an agenda, but I’m not sure what it is yet.

    Destroying the public finances seems to be one objective. Here in Canada, the Federal budget deficit has exploded to $130 billion, or around $15,000 for every family of four. Meantime the Trudeau Government is seeking power to spend as much as it likes without Parliament’s approval.

    Here, from the Spectator, is another professor of Medicine suggesting that the pandemic panic is insane: How Deadly is the Coronavirus?

    Certainly, the article makes clear the absurdity of physicists claiming to be able correctly predict the number of infections with some kind of numerological rigmarole.

  181. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jsinton

    Virus don’t like warm weather, fresh air, and sunshine.

    They don’t like vitamin D produced in the sunshine. If you want a jump on the spring break from the coronavirus, take 2000 units of D3 every day.

  182. SteveK9 says:

    There is an effective treatment, hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin (Dr. Didier Raoult, Marseille, France)

    I’m really hoping this is over in a month or two. The treatment above will work, people will still die of course, it doesn’t make a 90-year-old, with a dozen illnesses live forever, but the hysteria will die down.

    http://thesaker.is/interview-with-professor-didier-raoult-in-the-parisien-newspaper-22-march-2020/

    http://thesaker.is/why-france-is-hiding-a-cheap-and-tested-virus-cure/

    https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/03/26/new-york-perform-massive-real-time-experiment-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-patients/

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-coronavirus-outbreak/russia-claims-it-produces-drug-to-treat-covid-19-/1783292

    https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/news/pfizer-data-azithromycin-covid-19-trial/

    They are trying to paint Dr. Raoult as a quack. It isn’t going to work, as he is recognized as one of the top infectious disease Scientists/Doctors in the World.

    Here is something from his Wikipedia page:

    On 19 November 2010, he was awarded the “Grand prix de l’Inserm” for his career.[8] In 2015, Raoult was awarded the “Grand Prix scientifique de la Fondation Louis D.” of the Institut de France. He shared the €450.000 prize money with biologist Chris Bowler from the Institut de Biologie de l’Ecole Normale Supérieure in Paris.[9]

    In 2014, according to ISI Web of Knowledge, he is the most cited microbiologist in Europe, and the 7th worldwide.[10][11]

    In 2020, the website Expertscape ranks him 1st expert in the world for communicable diseases.[12][13]

    He was “classified among the ten leading French researchers by the journal Nature, for the number of his publications (a credit of more than two thousand) and for his citations number”, in 2008, as reported by a daily economic newspaper covering his work.[14]

    According to the Thomson Reuters source “Highly Cited Researchers List”, Raoult is among the most influential researchers in his field and his publications are among the 1% most consulted in academic journals. He is one of the 99 most cited microbiologists in the world and one of the 73 most highly cited French scientists.[15] He is a world reference for Q fever and Whipple’s disease.[16] In April 2017, on Google Scholar citations,[17] he cumulated over 104,000 citations and an h index of 148. He is also on the list of the 400 most cited authors in the biomedical world.[18]

    According to the analysis of the publications from 2007 to 2013, by Kathleen Gransalke, for Labtimes (2017/02), Raoult appears at the top of the European classification (including Israel) with 18,128 citations.[19]

    He totalizes more than 2,300 indexed publications including 8 in Science, and 3 in Nature, the two most visible scientific journals according to the N&S index of Shanghai’s ranking.[20]

  183. anastasia says:

    The media is putting on every anesthesiologist, oncologist, nephrologist and hanging on their every word. If you are willing to listen to them, why not listen to Ron Paul

    Dear Reader,

    Ron Paul here, with an urgent warning for every American who loves freedom.

    [MORE]

    I served in the U.S. Senate for more than 20 years, and never before have I seen such danger in America as I do today.

    When I left Congress in 2012, I warned that big government, fiat money, ignoring liberty, central economic planning, welfarism, and warfarism caused our prior crisis.

    And that if folks in Washington didn’t wake up and realize it, then we could expect an even more dangerous crisis in the future.

    Today, that’s exactly the world we face.

    The consequences will be severe.

    As I recently warned in a documentary film that’s already been watched by 800,000 Americans, it could ultimately mean the total disintegration of society.

    And it won’t matter who you vote for this fall.

    Because, philosophically, all the 2020 candidates believe the same way on the big issues – whether it’s war, money, deficits, welfare, the military industrial complex, or the Federal Reserve. And obviously they all agree on spending money.

    If you believe, as I do, that the current folks in Washington D.C. are playing with fire – then I urge you to act today.

    And if you’re concerned about the direction of our nation, we have bad news. It’s going to get much, much worse.

    Many Americans face disaster in the coming years. What will happen when vast swathes of the nation can’t afford the next month’s rent… gas for their car… or food for their children?

    When you learn more here, you’ll soon understand why the 2020 election will turn into a national nightmare.

    The good news is that there are a few simple things you can do to protect yourself and your family.

    I’m working with my friends P.J. O’Rourke and Buck Sexton to spread this urgent warning about the coming crisis that could impact every American retiree’s hard-earned savings.

    Their free American Consequences magazine predicted President Donald Trump’s impeachment before it happened last year… the rise in tension in Iran… and both the Christmas crash of 2018 and the continued bull market since.

    And what they predict about the 2020 election is even more surprising.

    To be one of the first to know what’s coming later this year… click here.

    Sincerely,

    Ron Paul

    What kind of doctor is Ron Paul?
    He received a B.S. degree in biology at Gettysburg College in 1957. He was a member of the fraternity Lambda Chi Alpha.[10] After earning a Doctor of Medicine degree from Duke University’s School of Medicine in 1961, Paul relocated with his wife to Michigan, where he completed his medical internship at the Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit. He then served as a flight surgeon in the United States Air Force from 1963 to 1965 and then in the United States Air National Guard from 1965 to 1968.[11]

    In 1968, Paul and his wife relocated to Texas, where he continued his medical work. Trained in obstetrics and gynaecology, Paul then began his own private practice.[12] As a physician, Paul routinely lowered fees or worked for free and refused to accept Medicaid or Medicare payments.[13][14] A 2002 newsletter of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) listed Paul as a member.[15]

    As a member of Congress, he continues to refuse to sign up for the government pension that he would be entitled to in order to avoid receiving government money, saying it would be “hypocritical and immoral.”[16]

  184. Alfred says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The article is below.

    IMHO, it makes a lot of sense. The whole thing can be a case of orchestrated mass hysteria

    Manufactured Pandemic: Testing People for Any Strain of a Coronavirus, Not Specifically for COVID-19

    • Agree: Hippopotamusdrome
  185. @ChuckOrloski

    Hi Chuck,

    Anytime you want to make a transfer in USD between two parties you will be allocated a SWIFT and IBAN Code so the transaction could go through New York banks and the Federal Reserve. This is required even if the full transaction is done within the same country and not only intra countries. This gives US financial authorities a huge power to play the financial policeman of the world, with countries under US sanctions like Russia, Iran and Venezuela being deprived of the possibility of settling their trade in USD with trading partners. Moreover, the US authorities will be privy to any transaction done in USD between two parties irrespective of the nationality of the parties settling in USD.
    With the disappearance of cash and the prevalence of digital currencies, there is nowhere to hide from the prying eyes of big brother from the grocery store level to any business transaction.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  186. @Longfisher

    No scientist like myself would favor or even consider the plight of the markets compared to the plight of the people. I guess that’s because I was trained to care for people, even those with meager means, more so than to cow-tow to the rich.

    I think this is generally true for people like us who work or have worked in the medical professions. Obviously if they have salary deductions for retirement funds, they like to see them going up, but it is not a primary concern or motivation.

    However now that defined benefit pensions are rapidly in decline and all retirement accounts are funneled into stock market funds, it has become a real hot potato for presidents and governors to keep the plates of the stock market spinning at all costs or face what could be devastating retribution from retired voters who depend on the stock market for what social security cannot pay for.

    Just the other day I heard about an older black lady who had worked at my old workplace since it opened 26 years ago, who was popular, and had an easy job. She had suddenly quit her job and taken an unplanned early retirement, because that was the only way she could get her 401K funds out of the stock market before it tanked further and destroyed her future retirement.

    I don’t know if she was right or rational to do what she did, but I am giving this as an example known to me of how people react to a crisis like this and when they do not believe anything that the political leadership says.

    I think this is probably why political leaders pay more attention to the stock market than to the suffering of the sick. Trump is just artless and doesn’t know how to dissemble.

  187. @Anonymous

    When the link to the gold trading standard was cut by Richard Nixon, advised by Paul Volcker among others, on August 15 1971, the die was cast. Then we had the abrogation of Glass Steagall in 1999 under Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, a member of the Goldman Sacks gang, which removed the distinction between investment ( casino) banks and commercial banks. Then we had the bailout of the Great Recession of 2008 and from there, we had QE1, QE2, QE3, which are bound to continue ad infinitum under different names such as Repo intervention and Not QE, to keep the stock market high with the total capitalisation of Wall Street reaching more than 150% of the value of US GDP (traditionally around half the value of US GDP). Then the house of cards collapsed under the fig leaf of Corona when all indications where pointing to a coming depression with industrial capacities falling in China and Germany and world trade taking a hit.

    What we have here is socialism for the super rich and capitalism for Main Street. Shadow Stat, estimates that inflation is running at 8.5% if it is measured with the inflation basket in use when Reagan was elected and no less than 5% with the basket in use when Clinton was elected. This means that we effectively have negative real interest rates in the US with the savers punished and the profligate rewarded. Companies that have engaged in stock buybacks instead of capital investment, to line the pockets of the upper management through stock options, are being bailed out by their FED buddies while most small to medium size businesses are going bankrupt by the Corona lockdown. Some moral hazard!

    Until sound money is restored and special interests are neutralised, the sorry state of affairs will go on until we get a total reset through a debt jubilee which will forgive most outstanding debt of individuals or a total collapse of the economy and the financial system which will be a harbinger to a totalitarian world that would be a combination of Orwell’s 1984 ( already in place through MSM and social media censorship and political correctness) and Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, both authors members of the Fabian Society with knowledge of the hidden hand agenda.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  188. anastasia says:

    The Hong Kong Flu in 1970 killed 1 million people in the world according to Wikopedia, and maybe people should look quickly before they change the numbers.

    Maybe we should call this the Trump virus. I really don’t think that the NATO countries like him very much either.

    Could it be that the Chinese, in league with the WHO and CDC, with the cooperation of NATO countries, Russia, Iran (all playing along) did this to put Trump in a vicegrip so they could not lead him around by a leash?

    If it’s true, it was a perfect plan.  They completely and wholly destroyed the banner he was going to run on – the economy.

    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
  189. anastasia says:

    THERE ARE FATES WORSE THAN DEATH.

    an elderly nurse describes on Facebook (25.03.2020) the completely absurd situation for everyone:

    “Ms. X, paralyzed on one side, has to go to the toilet. After a short attempt to undress her by telepathy so that she can empty her bladder, I ignore my distance limit and get very close to people again. I wash / shower people every day, help brush my teeth, comb my hair, put on compression stockings. …. It is impossible to keep the recommended distance of two meters. Try to explain to someone with dementia that they shouldn’t get too close.
    The psychological stress for residents and nursing staff is extremely high. Can you imagine for a moment what that means?
    You need comfort, a shoulder to lean on, a distraction. It is very bad for people who have dementia and do not understand each day anew where their children are. They are afraid to worry, want to search … .. “

  190. @Catdomnj

    Yes, I am. If you so schmart why ain’t you rich?

  191. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Joe Levantine definitely ‘gets it’. (thank you Joe)

    As terrifying as it must be, to actually glimmer the absolute corruption of our government and financial institutions.

    It amounts to taxing the middle and working class, (through inflation and payroll taxes and other schemes), while lavishing lucre on the wealthiest and most corrupt.

    It is a Biblical level of betrayal of everything America was supposed to be, all in fealty to Moloch worshipers, as they toss America’s children into the pyres of sacrifice, to their own (literally) insatiable, infinite greed.

    The French, (back when they were French), invented a nice machine as a solution to this state of affairs. As the blade dropped, the people cheered wildly, as the crony-kepto-aristocrat’s head dropped into a basket. To no longer use the levers of state power, to loot the people, and enrich themselves at the detriment of France and the French people.

    And then their American cousins did it shortly there after, when the Banksters of Perfidious Albion tried to enslave the colonists with English bank issued, fiat debt-currency = slavery.

    The founders said we’ll kill you if you try. (And kill them they did ; )

    But the people of America today, don’t have that kind of mettle any more. They’re a dumbed down, bovine, cud-chewing consumer-sheople. With their faces glued to ‘smart’ devices and fixated on Kim Kardashian’s corpulent backside.

    It doesn’t look good.

    • Agree: John Chuckman
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Joe Levantine
  192. Sean says:
    @geokat62

    Maybe they have Camel Flu. It is from a bat, it’s bad.

  193. gsjackson says:
    @Longfisher

    I wouldn’t tow a cow to the rich either. Maybe a homeless puppy if I could be sure they would treat it well, but no cows. And you won’t ever catch me kowtowing to them.

  194. @anastasia

    Could it be that the Chinese, in league with the WHO and CDC, with the cooperation of NATO countries, Russia, Iran (all playing along) did this to put Trump in a vicegrip so they could not lead him around by a leash?

    Touché!

    I have been saying this for years. They are all in cahoots including Trump to destroy The Evil State of Israel. Obama before Trump and George W. Bush before Obama. The fake 9/11 to create the Shia Crescent with the approval of KSA. Russia (USSR) was kicked out by Evil Kissinger from ME after the Yom Kippur war. The Fake Obama Red Line about Syria using chemicals. At a press congress, with John Kerry (USA Foreign Sectary) and with Sergey Lavrov (Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation) where Kerry saying there has to be war with Syria as they have crossed the “Red Line” set by our President. Sergey volunteering they can remove all the chemicals from Syria if there is no war with Syria. Kerry saying, “You are welcome”, and with Russia being in Syria, Iran is at the doorsteps of Israel.

    A cooked plan, the implementation took years, and now Israel is in big trouble! Three elections and still no government. BTW, the 29 standing ovations by the US Congress really inflated dimwit Netanyahu.

  195. @Joe Levantine

    Hey Joe!

    Thanks for the reply and as I “don’t have a pot to piss in,” I will seriously mull over your fascinating revelation.

    Am at a “Family Dollar” store” level of comprehension on how The Fed can generate endless money,🤑 and annually, I view how my Knesset Congress West bickers fiercely about adhering to a “debt ceiling,” then comes the endless ca-ching.

    As an unemployed & part time Scranton School bus driver, am waiting for my Penbsylvanua U.C. Benjamins “Stimulus” check, this coming Wednesday, and for now, “Let it be Levantine!”

    • Agree: Assad al-islam
  196. Predictive programming ?Just learned that the 2020 quarter has a bat on the reverse side , it’s a Samoan fruit bat , but as they say there’s no such thing as a coincidence . How many people have really taken the time to examine the masonic symbols on the dollar bill,see :”The Illuminati symbol,the Great Seal and the One Dollar bill” illuminatirex.com

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  197. anastasia says:

    Here’s how it may end. JUST HEARD FROM TRUMP.  They have a new PCR test, results in 5 minutes.  .  It is LAUGHABLE.   Hopefully, Trump will have the test set up do to produce all “negatives”

  198. Anon[603] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    The Guillotines of the French Revolution were actually used on the wrong people.

    Our understanding of that event is yet another distortion propagated by the same people who distort our reality today.

    • Replies: @Malla
  199. Half Back says:

    See comment 166 which quotes Science magazine regarding the source of Coronavirus.

    Since this provided NO commentary I further note a SMH a Sydney Morning Herald ( my hometown) article which states that the “wet market’ was NOT the only possibility of the source.
    That story is neat. But it is no certainty. The first documented COVID-19 patient had no exposure to the wet market.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-perfect-virus-two-gene-tweaks-that-turned-covid-19-into-a-killer-20200327-p54elo.html

    It is possible, although unlikely, this virus was circulating in humans for years before breaking out into a pandemic.

    It could have spread silently, causing only mild cold-like symptoms, before suddenly acquiring a key mutation or two that made it much more contagious – and much more dangerous. “You cannot rule that out,” says Holmes.

    “Whether that market was involved or not, it’s really unclear at the moment. We may never answer that question.”

    Also the Coronavirus binding to Ace 2 in the lungs explains possible why old people with blood pressure problems on medications are more susceptible.

    “CoV-2 wants to do two things: bind to a human cell and then get inside it. The virus binds to a cellular receptor – think of them as little antennae that stick off the side of human cells – called ACE2.

    ACE2 receptors are designed to listen for signals that change our blood pressure. Fine adjustments to blood pressure are really important in our lungs, our lung cells are covered in ACE2 receptors.”

    So if the wet market is ‘out’ and the jump from bats is unknown we must as (Ron Unz) still leave in play a accidental (China) or accidental/ on purpose (USA) as suspects.

  200. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @anastasia

    “ Earlier in the day, a commercial aircraft carrying gloves, masks, gowns and other medical supplies from Shanghai touched down at Kennedy International Airport in New York, the first in a series of roughly 20 flights that White House officials say will funnel much-needed goods to the United States by early April.

    The plane carried 130,000 N95 masks, nearly 1.8 million surgical masks and gowns, 10 million gloves and more than 70,000 thermometers, said Lizzie Litzow, a spokeswoman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA”
    New York Times .03/29/2020

    Now help dailymail with this crisis. Tell them-
    China is sending masks medical supplies soaked with the nasal secretion of the deceased out of Wuhan. Please send it to Dailymail. They would love it.

  201. DaveE says:
    @AL.

    I’m for labeling it “Jew Flu” caused by the “Shlomovirus”.

    This “thing” has just a few-hundred elements of a psyop – just a little too similar to the 9/11 operation. Done by the same people with the same agenda to start wars for Israel (this time against China) and using the dirty, constantly lying media to incite panic and use it to crackdown on what few freedoms we still have.

    Just wait until the Patriot Act II – mandatory tests and / or tainted “vaccinations” – allow the zionists to throw us all in their gulags, if we even show antibodies to this-years-flu, now labeled “coronavirus”. Especially known “anti-Semites” who have DARED to speak the truth about that dirty, vile so-called “country” stolen by and for The Chosen.

  202. Druid says:
    @Desert Fox

    History repeating itself

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  203. It’s a good question, what ‘solutions’ are going to be imposed on the West’s citizens, posed by Giraldi, as this psy-op follows the same tried and tested template as all the others of Problem-Reaction-Solution.

    The Cabal, as we call them, create ‘the problem’ to use as a pretext, then whipped up by a hyperventilating media, Western citizens (who mostly cannot recognize propaganda when they see it) have their reaction and clamor for their governments to take action, and finally the Cabal present the ‘solution’ as a fait accompli which they wanted to implement in the first place – but needed the public’s consent to do so.

    So, when we see that as a ‘solution’ to the economic recession induced by this SARS-CoV2 outbreak:

    • curfews and martial law imposed;
    • mandatory vaccinations on pain of being made ineligible for receiving social security benefits/removal from electoral rolls/children denied attending daycare or school &/or incarceration; and
    • the banks of Western nations imposing Deep Negative Interest Rates (of minus 3% to minus 4%, meaning it will cost us to deposit our savings each year, so that we are losing the purchasing power of our money at the rate of inflation AND the cost of depositing our savings) as per the International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) guidance of April 2019:

    https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2019/04/29/Enabling-Deep-Negative-Rates-A-Guide-46598

    … then we will all know what this ‘hyped-up plandemic’ was really all about!

  204. Malla says:
    @Anon

    The Guillotines of the French Revolution were actually used on the wrong people.

    Very true. King Louis XVI (just like King Charles I of England and Tzar Nicholas II of Russia) was a good man.

    https://www.andrewcusack.com/2006/the-last-will-and-testament-of-louis-xvi/

    The Last Will and Testament of Louis XVI

    Some snippets

    “I pardon with all my heart those who made themselves my enemies, without my have given them any cause, and I pray God to pardon them, as well as those who, through false or misunderstood zeal, did me much harm.”

    ..snip…

    “I commend my children to my wife; I have never doubted her maternal tenderness for them. I enjoin her above all to make them good Christians and honest individuals; to make them view the grandeurs of this world (if they are condemned to experience them) as very dangerous and transient goods, and turn their attention towards the one solid and enduring glory, eternity.”

    …snip….

    I exhort my son, should he have the misfortune of becoming king, to remember he owes himself wholly to the happiness of his fellow citizens; that he should forget all hates and all grudges, particularly those connected with the misfortunes and sorrows which I am experiencing; that he can make the people happy only by ruling according to laws: but at the same time to remember that a king cannot make himself respected and do the good that is in his heart unless he has the necessary authority, and that otherwise, being tangled up in his activities and not inspiring respect, he is more harmful than useful.”

    Some great comments from readers in the above linked page:

    TRZeller wrote
    “Wow, what history teaches about this man and his wife is nothing like their letters. It is shameful they are not seen as they truly were.”

    Lorraine wrote
    “The French Revolution was a godless horror, and in general, France is still godless.”

    Violetta wrote
    “Louis XVI was the most beautiful, kindest, loving person to ever live on this Earth, in my opinion. I love him so tenderly, as if he were still alive today.”

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  205. @Robert Dolan

    The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.

    It is not necessary for the tests themselves to isolate a specific virus, which should have been done during the process to determine the exact sequence, which was purportedly published in early January.

    This piece originally came from an anonymous source who provided no corroboration whatsoever for the claims made, nor is it clear how long ago the initial assertions were published.

    If the generic corona virus is so ubiquitous as claimed, then it is reasonable to presume that a diagnostic test for detecting this basic type was already available long ago, so that any more recently developed tests could not have added any value, if the claims made here were true.

    Yet a quick search at Wikipedia shows seven different tests that had already been developed by March 6 and used in the past few weeks, which target different genes, and lists five additional companies that have developed there own tests since then:

    COVID-19 Testing (Wikipedia)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing

    An honest and authoritative claim purporting the non-specificity of currently used diagnostic tests would at least explain why each of these now dozen different tests do not test specifically for COVID-19 but only for a generic and ubiquitous corona virus. For additional credibility it would be helpful if such an author were identified.

    Consequently, by default, the aforementioned piece ought to be considered with critical suspicion, as not serious or credible, likely another case of fake-news spamming, to propagate false rumors, that many credulous readers easily fall for.

    • Replies: @DaveE
    , @Robert Dolan
  206. @Rurik

    Hey Rurik,

    Thank you for your appreciation and it is always refreshing to hear from you.

    Though one thing I would like to point out with respect to the French Revolution.

    We were taught at school, having attended a school in a country that was a French mandate, that the French Revolution was an uprising by the people who were starving and wanted bread. Nothing is further from the truth. While France was suffering a near bankruptcy because of the support the French gave to the American rebels, add to that an extremely poor harvest in one of the worst winters that France had suffered which was mainly due to the eruption of a volcano in Iceland, the French plebe were under extreme stress but they were not starving nor they were interested in Liberte, Fraternite, Egalite. All the people wanted is some reprieve out of their desperate living conditions.

    Here the secret societies of the Illuminati, whose cover was blown in Bavaria after they had finished on the May 1st 1776 ( May Day in ex Soviet Union) their plan which they were supposed to implement under the leadership of Adam Weishaupt, a Rothschild agent par excellence, went totally underground and resurrected themselves through the infiltration of Freemasonry lodges. The illuminati plan was to destroy the aristocracies of Europe in favour of a new world order based on a so called democratic form of government of PUPPET PARTIES, something we call in our twisted minds under the matrix of control “representative democracy”.

    The illuminati used the frustration of the people as a tool against the three pillars of the Old Order, the monarchy, the nobility and the clergy. Here it is of paramount importance to exonerate King Louis the 16th, for his ultimate fate was sealed, after he failed to check the extravagance of the nobility and when he refused to resort to bloody counter measures against the French people which would have turned the tide in his favour, but valiantly rejected any bloodshed, while the yellow press of back then concocting all kind of defamatory stories about his Austrian Hapsburg wife Marie Antoinette, portraying her as the woman whose careless spending bankrupted the kingdom of France.

    To avoid a long description of the real history that took place back then ( for anyone interested please try to get a copy of the censored book “ Under the Sign of the Scorpion” by Juri Lina) suffice to say that at the onslaught of the Bastille, there were all in all 7 prisoners inside, but when France fell under the rule of the Jacobins, their reign of terror led thousands of innocent people to the guillotine and to wars with all of France’s neighbouring countries which caused the death of Hundreds of thousand Frenchmen going all the way into the Napoleonic wars which enormously enriched the bankers, who were lending all along to all opposing sides, and allowed them to continue their plan of domination all the way into the European revolutions of 1948 and the Bolshevik one of 1917 and all the disasters of the 20th and 21st centuries.

    King Louis XVI the tyrant? He was a saint compared to the crooks and psychopaths who have ruled the world since the Old Order was replaced by the ongoing New “ World” Order and its universal debt slavery. Welcome to the hunger games.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  207. DaveE says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    If the generic corona virus is so ubiquitous as claimed, then it is reasonable to presume that a diagnostic test for detecting this basic type was already available long ago……

    It’s also reasonable to suppose that if this virus is so ubiquitous as claimed, that we would ALL show antibodies to it – just like anyone who has ever had the flu or has even been exposed to the flu virus (with or without symptoms) would test positive using these “tests”.

    How CONVENIENT for our Masters.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  208. @Malla

    Thank you for this very important letter which attests to the opinion of those who see the French Revolution as nothing more than an event in a long chain of events that led mankind to the current low we are experiencing today and we will endure until kingdom comes unless we wake up from our torpor and start reacting to the evil plans of the PTB.

    “…but at the same time to remember that a king cannot make himself respected and do the good that is in his heart unless he has the necessary authority, and that otherwise, being tangled up in his activities and not inspiring respect, he is more harmful than useful.”

    How prescient from a man portrayed by fake history as a mindless tyrant. This is the predicament of our liberal democracy or “ representative democracy” where nobody can claim enough authority to be wholly responsible for his/her actions. Hitler, another vilified leader, had something to say along the same line about the Austrian democracy of his era.

    King Louis XVI might have failed as a power broker because he was not meant for the job. However, he has won big as a beacon of decency in a world ruled by people who are totally deprived of this virtue. He preferred the loss of the throne to leading a bloody suppression against his people and that should make a contender for a sainthood.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @John Chuckman
    , @Rurik
  209. @DaveE

    Dr. Didier Raoult in France is facing hell from the agents of the state and those of the New World Order such as Cohn Bendit ( or more appropriately Cohn Bandit) for revealing to the world that Covid19 can be effectively cured by chloroquine. What a pity he ruined their scare tactics and those of big Pharma’s planned universal vaccination against a man made virus.

  210. @Druid

    Agree, Bill Gates hosted the World Economic Forum Event 201 on the coronavirus pandemic on OCTOBER 18, 2019, they had the scam ready to unfold on the world to further government control over our lives, coronavirus is no more dangerous than the common flu.

    These bastards should be on trial for terrorism!

  211. @Joe Levantine

    Louis XVI is widely regarded by historians as having been a decent man.

    He simply lacked some of skills required to rule during his time.

    France’s biggest problem was its elite class, including the clergy. They simply refused to budge on their privileges at a time when the nation had serious financial problems. The nation was literally almost paralyzed in its ability to get anything done.

    It is worth noting that the financial woes were in part due to the immense assistance which had been given to the American revolt against the Crown. France gave weapons, sent ships, sent troops and generals and experts, and handed out big bags of gold.

    The American revolution would have failed without France. Only about one-third of the colonials were of the Patriot Party. It was a minority event.

    France of course wanted to hurt its imperial rival, England.

    In addition, the elites attacked the Queen, who was not popular because of her nationality, through many rumors and tales, many of which were not true, but the tales made their way out to the general public creating a sense of great scandal.

    Louis, well intentioned as he was, just could not handle the situation.

    When violence did break out on the streets, the government was in poor shape to deal with it.

  212. “..they had the scam ready to unfold on the world to further government control over our lives…

    Actually, if you look at the Event 201 video you’ll see that an important conclusion from the simulation exercise was that they were not prepared for something like that to occurring in real life.

  213. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    the French Revolution as nothing more than an event in a long chain of events that led mankind to the current low we are experiencing today and we will endure until kingdom comes unless we wake up from our torpor and start reacting to the evil plans of the PTB

    Hello Joe, and thank you for the reply and education, (also thanks to Anon and Mallla),

    I’ve never pretended to be a scholar. And I also know that history is a nuanced affair, wrought with labyrinths of intertwining agendas and perspectives. Always lied about by the victors in any conflict, to demonize their rivals and exalt themselves as the heroes and saviors of mankind, blah, blah..

    So it’s no surprise that my trite characterization of the guillotine as a benign invention for the good of mankind, would encounter some ‘quibbles’, so to speak.

    I’ve seen both perspectives from ‘popular culture’, if you can refer to Victor Hugo or Baroness Orczy’s The Scarlet Pimpernel, as popular culture.

    I suppose you’re far more correct in your assessments, than what I’ve been privy to in my (extremely limited) examinations of the period.

    What I do know: That people can get caught up in their own sense of grandiloquence, especially monarchs, and those with powdered hair and lipstick, in their courts.

    This photo is obviously a mock-up, but I doubt it’s too far off, for many aristocrats during those times.

    and if so, as the common people struggled, I can imagine some resentment.

    It does seem eerily allegorical (to me) of the Russian revolution, where Tsar Nicholas II was not a bad man, and could even be called a good man, but was too isolated from the common man, to know that the extravagances of the Romanov court were an affront to the suffering of the Russian people. Thereby giving the enemies of Russia all the tools they needed, just as, no doubt, the Masons and Jacobins took advantage of the suffering of the common Frenchman, (and the [notorious] extravagance [decadence?] of the French aristocracy at the time), in order to take the reins of that nation, for their own nefarious ends.

    Generally, when I ponder historical narratives, I often look at the world I’m in today, to glimmer what it might have been like, back then.

    Today the government and leader of France are the undisputed (and genocidal) enemies of the French people.

    That is, from my perspective, a hard and cold truth. And I can see it with my own eyes. I don’t need to read history books, or watch documentaries or even read novels. All I have to do is open my eyes, and look. And I can also see that Russia today has a good leader who has the interests of Russia and the Russian people as his guiding principle.

    Perhaps if Nicolas II, (or Louis XVI?) were just a little more connected to the average lives and struggles of their common man, and not so enamored of the intrigues and dalliances of the posh and pampered court aristocrats, those revolutions might have been avoided?

    (I am just speculating here, as I’ve said, I’m no scholar on those tragic events).

    But perhaps, far more to the point, is now.

    Today our version of aristocrats/royalty, (tech CEO billionaires, Goldman Sachs/Wall Street mega-millionaires, assorted casino owners, Hollywood types, and political dynasties, et al) are not just disconnected to the common man, but they’re also doing all they can, 24/7 – to ruin the lives of the common man, and plunge him helplessly into the abyss. So that they can have even more, of whatever there is to have, while the common man has less and less and less.

    And that is what they want. They want the kind of society that existed in feudal times, when a commoner’s child was theirs for the taking. (Think Epstein writ large) The British aristocracy today is a notorious den of pedophiles and pederasts, doing all in their power to utterly destroy the lives of the common British man and woman, and plunge their destinies into a Orwellian hell on earth for all eternity, or at least until that day, not far off, when there won’t be an ethnic Brit left on the island. Meanwhile the British aristocracy (and French?) today, occupy themselves by buggering little boys, (how is Macron not a fag? Did you see the photo?), while their nations descend into dystopian hells on earth. (think Rotherham).

    Can you blame me for invoking the guillotine? When such is the state of our national (cultural, civilizational) affairs?

    Right now, the Trump administration is allowing an unprecedented power-grab by Big Tech. He’s looting the wealth of Main Street, to lavish trillions of dollars on Wall Street, in secret deals.

    The middle and working class languish, as the borders are kept open, and throngs of invaders gush in by the millions to milk the spoils system- set up for them- at the direct expense of the American common man.

    It’s all for the .1%, and ‘let the rest eat cake’.

    I’m not saying all the people who were marched up the steps to the guillotine had it coming. Surely not. (perhaps Robespierre did, no?)

    All I’m saying, is that looking at the world today, and the motivations and personalities involved, I understand why it was, that so many people cheered so wildly, as the grim blade fell to its purpose.

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  214. @Been_there_done_that

    Your long winded post seems like gibberish.

    How can you claim it doesn’t matter if the test is specific for Covid 19?

    What good is the damn test if it isn’t able to identify Covid 19?

    What good is it to know that any given patient has come down with a regular cold?

    There is nothing about fake news here pal. These are all reasonable questions. And if the author of the piece works in the health field it’s not hard to understand why they’d prefer to remain anonymous.

  215. In revolutions, a common factor is the elites’ lack of response to wider social/economic problems.

    This was definitely true of the French and Russian revolutions.

    It should perhaps be noted what has arisen in America before the current crisis, and that is the immense divide between the “one-percent” and the great mass of the population.

    The divide has arisen through things like a tax system which puts no responsibility on the super-privileged, while, at the same time, a great deal of the government’s activities serve those same people- eg, the Pentagon/security complex and the empire abroad that it is designed to serve.

    Many aspects of that structure are not stable, and they now are to be put under great stress.

    I think all bets are off as to the ultimate outcome.

    America’s domestic future might well be very different than many would have assumed just a short time ago.

    And that goes for its international arrangements too.

  216. How can you claim it doesn’t matter if the test is specific for Covid 19?
    .
    What good is the damn test if it isn’t able to identify Covid 19?

    The latter question is the point I made. You grossly misrepresented what I had written. I did not make the claim that it doesn’t matter, nor could they possibly have been construed that way. The piece you cut and pasted asserted that the diagnostic tests were not specific to COVID-19, and I questioned the validity of that.

    However, tests that are specific to COVID-19 do not necessarily have to isolate that virus. Viral isolation is a specific process proscribed by the Pasteur Institute.

  217. @gotmituns

    Antares,
    There has been no published study proving this or any other coronavirus is the cause of disease. The CDC test kit brochure does not make any claims. The test will come up positive for any corona type virus or remains thereof. And the hospitals are not swamped, except on TV.

  218. @Rurik

    Rurik, thank you for your elaborate reply to which I humbly state that there areas where you and many other commentators on this site made me learn a ton of knowledge as everyone of us makes his or her little contribution.

    My comparison of the state of the matter in our time to the previous order does not emanate from any nostalgic feeling to the feudal system that by and large ended with WWI. I never thought that privilege courtesy of an accident of birth is something defendable. It is just to point out that when people seek change to correct the imperfections or the injustices of a certain era they very well might stumble into something much worse. Love the monarchy or hate it, there is no denial that sovereign kings of Europe claimed a mandate by divine will. This claim allowed them sometimes to abuse their power, but undeniably this claim put a ceiling to their authority as they could not blatantly negate the tenets of Christianity. In our so called democratic system of governance, the divine laws of nature can be subverted through a majority vote by the legislative bodies ( or worse by judicial overreach) thus making killing babies in their mother’s womb who might have very little awareness as something justifiable which leads to worse crimes such as organs harvesting and what have you. More important was that matters of wars were strictly settled in battlefields while the the civilian population was spared, especially so after the treaty of Westphalia. Also outright demonisation of whole populations the way it happened with respect to Germany after WWI and WWII were not happening under the reign of the Western Aristocracy. Most important was that kings who were wise enough not to put themselves under the thumb of usurers could swing their lances into the throat of the dragon anytime the latter crossed the line.

    I very much agree with your description of events that are making the world in general and the Western elements of it a most horrible experience to survive. And yes indeed, the bad leader to the PTB is the one who defends the interest of the common person such as Putin and Xi.

    All in all, the epic battle between good and evil is nearing and everyone of us has to make a choice based on ethics and dignity rather than crooked utilitarianism.

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    , @ChuckOrloski
  219. anastasia says:

    THERE’S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE. IN T HIS COUNTRY IT IS EVERY NANOSECOND

    https://needtoknow.news/2020/03/bill-gates-tells-what-to-expect-after-covid-19/

    Comforting words from Bill Gates (and he should know. He ran Even 201 in Oct 2019, simulating what would happen during a pandemic of corona virus)

    March 29, 2020 GEG commentary on Bill Gates 0

    Youtube
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    Broadcast on March 26, 2020, Bill Gates speaks from his home, interviewed by Chris Anderson, the founder of TED Talks. This is a 4-minute excerpt from the original 52-minutes. It focuses on what Mr. Gates thinks the future will hold following the Covid-19 pandemic, which was underway at the time. He says:
    (1) Covid-19 will fade away within a few months
    (2) There will be fewer casualties than predicted
    (3) That will be credited to strong action taken by governments
    (4) Pandemics serve the purpose of testing and improving response
    (5) The correct response centers on the development of vaccines, an industry in which he is heavily invested
    (6) Pandemics and global warming have the common advantage of being sufficiently frightful to motivate the public and governments to accept drastic changes to society
    (7) Leadership for this must come from technocrats, not politicians.

    Mr. Gates is an oligarch with the money and power to make things happen globally. What he sees for the future has a good chance of coming to pass. -GEG

  220. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    This claim allowed them sometimes to abuse their power, but undeniably this claim put a ceiling to their authority as they could not blatantly negate the tenets of Christianity.

    Thank you Joe,

    As much as I respect the Christians here on Unz, (like yourself ; ) – one of my running themes, is that Christendom, (Western civilization), has no more dangerous an enemy than today’s ‘Christian’ ‘leadership’.

    They do seem obsessed with abortion, (something I am not stringent on in either direction), while hardly taking a stand on any other tenet or principle of Christianity.

    While I agree it’s a sin to kill an unborn baby for reasons of convenience, I wonder at the dearth of Christian leaders willing to condemn in no uncertain terms- the Eternal Wars for Israel (all based on obvious lies, and all obviously illegal – and immoral). Where, are the mainstream Christian leaders speaking out on the plight of the Palestinians in the Holy Land today?!

    Why the myopia? Shekels clinking under the frock, per chance?

    So as good and faithful as the Christians people are, it seems their leadership has been co-opted into the service of anti-Christ (contrived wars for the fun and profit of evil men, genocide, murder, iniquity, and civilizational rot and replacement of Christendom from the top down).

    At least in IMHO.

    And yes indeed, the bad leader to the PTB is the one who defends the interest of the common person such as Putin and Xi.

    Too true.

    It makes it all very difficult to sort things out, because eventually you start to assume that if the ((regime)) in DC doesn’t like someone, you start to assume that person must be good.

    That in fact is what was one of Trump’s most endearing qualities, is that the ((regime)) seemed to hate his guts with a netherworld insanity. Making people like me think he must be a pretty good guy, if they hate him that much.

    But then is Maduro any good for Venezuela? Are the Mullahs, (who lie about the plane getting shot down), any good for Iran? My kneejerk instinct is to support them more, whenever the ((regime)) in DC sabre rattles at them. But then it always does seem a little more nuanced than just a black and white, good vs. evil.

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  221. @Joe Levantine

    Joe Levantine spoke, below,I listened, and agreed.

    “All in all, the epic battle between good and evil is nearing and everyone of us has to make a choice based on ethics and dignity rather than crooked utilitarianism.”

    P.S. “Christ is in our midst!”; a Greek Melkite Catholic declaration, and one which Russian Orthodox, Brother Nathanael, is familiar.

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  222. @Robert White

    Most vehicles manufactured have onboard GPS/ComputerUSB link to 24hr emergency services…

    Such services and the associated dashboard navigation systems are optional – not mandatory – and cost a lot. Aside from that, there are plenty of used vehicles without these features on the market that are in good shape. Furthermore, the healthiest way to get around in your vicinity is on a bicycle or by foot. Public transportation can work too.

    You may not care what the big brother database collects or “knows”. My point was that those who feel uncomfortable about it have options and are not yet being forced into compliance.

  223. @Rurik

    “ I wonder at the dearth of Christian leaders willing to condemn in no uncertain terms- the Eternal Wars for Israel (all based on obvious lies, and all obviously illegal – and immoral). Where, are the mainstream Christian leaders speaking out on the plight of the Palestinians in the Holy Land today?!“

    Here you are rubbing salt into the wounds of every Christian who sees how our Popes have been prostrating themselves to the Sabbatean Frankist sect that calls itself Jewish with an open membership to Christians and Moslems whom we refer to in popular culture as Zionists. German philosopher Hans Georg Gadamer has an interesting theory about the shifting relationship between the slave and the master; the more the master depends on the slave the more the relationship between the slave and the master flips around. When the bishops of Rome decided by the starting days of the so called renaissance to adopt the practice of usury in a stealthy way, tip toeing their way into banking with their protégés, the Fugger of Germany and the Medici of Italy, the Catholic Church had signed its Faustian deal and with time became subordinated to the moneyed powers of the international banking families especially the Rothschilds with many bishops and cardinals being crypto masons. So to see our Pope Francis kissing the hand of the Rothschilds dons and the high rabbis or meditating in front of the wailing wall in Jerusalem should tell any genuine Christian that Catholicism is a lost cause. One of the comments of Pope Francis about gay marriage was “ who am I to judge” for it seems that our Pope has forgotten that he is bound by a holy book that is unequivocal about the sacredness of a relationship between a man and a woman. While I accept the right of every person to follow his or her sexual orientation, the Church definitely cannot put a cloak of legitimacy over matters that negate the rules of the holy book. Also, when the writings of Saint Vincent Ferrer, the Christian who managed to convert the highest number of Jews to Christianity by resorting to genteel persuasion and without any coercion, are barred from reprinting by the “ Saint” Pope John Paul II who also encouraged the priests of Voodooism to uphold their religion, we can clearly see that the Church of Rome has totally lost its way and is nothing more than another brick in the matrix of control.

    And your speculation about Deep state and their PTB masters being sworn enemies of Trump rings true to my ear. That is why my hunch is that the Corona virus outbreak right before a looming election does not look innocent at all especially when one listens to the Chinese version of events.

    So where this leave us, the people who are not willing to bow to this crooked New World Order? Well, I guess that courage, solidarity and spirituality should be our primary tools of resistance.

    Good luck to you and to all truth and freedom loving readers and commenters of Unz.com and God bless.

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  224. @ChuckOrloski

    Well Chuck, congratulations you guessed my religion! however, I should clarify to you that it would have been better for me that my Orthodox Christian forebears stuck to their church considering what I have just replied to Rurik on my comment above about the Catholic Church.

  225. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Here you are rubbing salt into the wounds of every Christian

    Yes, but is that a bad thing, considering?

    I sincerely and deeply hope that any true Christians of good faith out there- know, that my criticisms are nothing more than what – I perceive with all-too mortal and flawed eyes- the Christ, (if He were here to see what’s going on), would be saying about the Eternal Wars and Palestinians and gay “marriage” and, perhaps most of all, the entire length and breath of Christian leadership’s depraved and slavish fealty to the minions of Moloch- waging wars and destroying lives and entire societies, while sending whole nations and untold millions of innocent people, reeling into the grave, or the stone age for generations.

    Would Jesus Christ approve of what was done to Libya, for instance? Would He say, ‘Well, they’re Muslims after all, so they should see their children suffer’ ?

    If I’ve glimmered anything about Him from growing up in a Christian household, and struggling for understanding ever since, I rather think He’d be so appalled at Hagee, the Pope and Pence, that He’d withhold his famous prayer for the Roman soldiers nailing Him to the cross, and in the case of Hagee, the Pope and Pence, He’d say ‘Don’t forgive them Father, for they know what they do’.

    It vexes me to criticize Christianity, as it’s ‘practiced’ today. For one, I don’t posses the moral authority. And most of my family are Christians. Most of the people I love and respect in my personal life, are Christians. But what some people don’t understand, is that the only reason I criticize some Christians, (and their leadership most of all), is because I love Christians, and am loath to see them used to infamously, by their most sinister of enemies.

    Sometimes I wonder what it must have been like to be a 13th century guy, alarmed to the core, at the mounting enthusiasm for a ‘Children’s Crusade’ to the Holy Land, putatively in order to wrest it from the Muslims, they decide to suit up their children, (symbolic of America’s young soldiers today), and then sent the children into harms way, (presumably so they didn’t have to go themselves), in order to serve their “Christian” leaders of the day.

    Who, if they were anything like today’s Christian leaders, (Hagee, et al) were probably brokering the sale of the children to their slavers before they even marched away.

    And if such a thirteenth century guy were to have tried to warn those Christians of the insanity of sacrificing their children, what would the Christians around him, dutifully buttoning up their little girls and boys, say about such a fellow? ‘Don’t pay attention to that bad man over there little Gretchen. Wipe your tears away. He’s just a bad man who doesn’t have faith. Those of us with faith, know in our hearts that you’ll be victorious for God. God would not forsake you.’

    >><<

    my hunch is that the Corona virus outbreak right before a looming election does not look innocent at all especially when one listens to the Chinese version of events.

    You’re not alone Joe,

    Hardly a day goes by when someone doesn’t hint that this was perpetrated by malefactors, or at least is being cynically used by the Adam Schiff/Nancy Pelosi/Bill Maher (((MSM))) TDS contingent for their own anti-Trump agenda.

    If you asked me, point blank, “IN your opinion, would some of those suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome be OK with a few million Americans and others dying, if that’s what it would take to derail Trump’s reelection?’

    Well, that question really sort of answers itself, doesn’t it?

    And thank you for your thoughtful (and edifying) reply, Joe.

    their protégés, the Fugger of Germany and the Medici of Italy, the Catholic Church had signed its Faustian deal and with time became subordinated to the moneyed powers of the international banking families especially the Rothschilds

    You’re obviously far more erudite than myself, (not at all ; ) when it comes to such matters.

    But if I hang out here enough, perhaps a little will rub off on me, (I’m hoping ; )

  226. “ Yes, but is that a bad thing?

    Just the opposite, it is the right thing to kick people out of their complacency and their blind deference to the hierarchy of the Church. Your criticism here is solid proof of your higher consciousness and morality.

    Your invoking of the crusades is a most important point to make as the way we were taught history would seldom allow us to ask the right questions and learn not to repeat the same mistakes. No history class of the crusades taught us who were the Knights Templars; well they were a pseudo Christian sect that marched to the Middle East seeking riches and gold. They believed that Jesus never died on the cross and that he subsequently married Maria Magdalena. They were the forefathers of the banking system of today and their leader Jaques De Molay was rightfully executed by the French King Philip IX for De Molay was bent on creating a state within a state the way the Federal Reserve acts today by building on the loot the Templars acquired.

    “ You’re obviously far more erudite than myself”

    Here I beg to disagree, and I would humbly recommend that you read the books of Dr. Michael Hoffman who is the real erudite and who corrected many of my misperceptions about the struggle between the Catholic Church and the secret societies especially in his book “ The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome” and other books about the history of usury in Christendom.

    It took me many years to understand the importance of studying real history and if most of us do, the hidden hand would have a much more difficult time perpetrating its murderous and fraudulent wars.

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  227. Ahoy says:

    @ Rurik #233

    Excellent comment. When one can see so accurately the faults of Christian leadership as you, then one can say there is a true Christian. More power to you.

    As for Adam Schiff/Nancy Pelosi/Bill Maher they are slowly but surely walking towards oblivion never to return. It was their choice to sell their psyche for shekels to them and turn against humanity. These two.

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  228. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Well, thank you Joe,

    I confess I’m often a little wary of speaking too harshly of Christianity or Christians, because as I mentioned, I’m so terribly fond of so many of them. And not only in my personal life, but even here at Unz! Where I’ve sort of come to ‘know’ a lot of very good and very decent people. Many of whom are unapologetic (as they should be ; ) Christians. So I take your words of encouragement as a welcome balm on my soul.

    No history class of the crusades taught us who were the Knights Templars; well they were a pseudo Christian sect that marched to the Middle East seeking riches and gold. They believed that Jesus never died on the cross and that he subsequently married Maria Magdalena. They were the forefathers of the banking system of today

    Well, as I’ve mentioned before, my grandfather was a Knights Templar, and a banker. Coincidence?

    I know very little about him, other than he died before my mother was born, and was a gentle and soft-spoken man. Christian, correct in social and societal ways, (unlike his grandson ; ), and generally considered an exemplary citizen. He certainly believed that Jesus died on the cross, and my mother was a devout Christian. But he did have some majestic-looking uniforms and accoutrements of the rite.

    I can also attest that he wasn’t anti-Catholic in the least.

    Federal Reserve acts today by building on the loot the Templars acquired.

    Having read the books, can you say if there’s an unbroken ‘chain of custody’ for the loot from the Templars to the modern day scoundrels?

    One thing I’ve noticed, is when I occasionally watch some documentary on talmudvision, the Templars are often treated as avaricious for the gold, but not in a greedy or otherwise villainous way. Like for instance, the Crusaders invariably portrayed as murderous, brutal villains.

    I sort of have a metric when it comes to historical issues like that. Did they (the Templars, Crusaders, etc..) bolster the fortunes of their progeny, or sell them out to their enemies for lucre, (as I see and lament the Church doing today).

    Maybe I just need to read the books.

  229. Rurik says:
    @Ahoy

    Thank you Ahoy!

    Your optimistic enthusiasm is contagious (but unlike the cornhole virus), in a good way!

    Why isn’t Soros dead yet? (or that tottering ghoul next to him?)

    His ugly twin David Rockefeller is busy rotting in hell by now, why hasn’t Soros gone to join him yet?

    That is waayyy overdue.

  230. Herald says:
    @Aleksander

    I suspect you are very much on the right track and of course, you do reinforce some most of the points made by Galaxy Cruiser. As these injected chips will require external power then I’d guess that this is being arranged covertly, as part of the plethora of electrical/electronic devices that make up the modern world. Related to this is that the number of cellphone transmitters is being greatly increased with 5G. Once chipped it seems humans may be merely players in “the internet of things”, that 5G will enable. It is Orwell’s 1984 on steroids.

  231. @Rurik

    Have you read The Hiram Key? The Second Messiah? Fascinating stuff!

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  232. @Rurik

    “ Having read the books, can you say if there’s an unbroken ‘chain of custody’ for the loot from the Templars to the modern day scoundrels?“

    Unfortunately I never encountered a deep research done about what the Templars did with their loot after they fled the Middle East. One thing I am fairly sure of that, ever since the Renaissance, all secret societies, including the Cabbalists, the aristocracies, and the Papacy did fight among each other not as ideological enemies but rather as competitors in the same power industry. Michael Hoffman gives the car industry as an example where you have GM, Ford and Chrysler all involved in the same trade but nonetheless always fighting over gaining an edge. I used to watch a documentary about the Templar’s treasure suspected to be buried on Oak Island, Nova Scotia, Canada, where legend has it that the treasure will not be found until 7 people die while searching for it, and 6 people are already dead. I never continued the series to the end but what struck me was that the diggers did made some headway by deciphering the clues based on Freemasonary’s symbolism.

    [MORE]

    How the flame of banking passed through the centuries into the hands of the Sabbatean Frankist sect that encompasses such powerful families like the Rothschilds along the remaining seven families that control and own the Federal Reserve who are avowedly satanic, I can only speculate, but I believe that one great erudite on the subject matter is the late Eustace Mullins whom I had the chance to listen to on radio a few times and whose credibility is asserted by Google’s description of him as being “ anti Semitic and a Holocaust denier”. Another erudite, living in the shadows, but who happens to be an authority on such subjects is Professor Maxwell Jordan.

    Your grandfather could have been a decent person for we have to take into account that many of the members of secret societies from the lower ranks are honest and well intentioned people but if they climb the ladder to the highest echelons, then it is naive to think that they make it by acting like true Christians. Many of the warrior monks of the Knights Templars believed they were fighting for Christ. Many lower ranking masons would tell you that they are the agents of Jesus which would partly explain their lack of success. Many CIA and FBI officers are decent people but the higher they move up the ranks the more their ethical standard has to be compromised and they can never reach the top positions without selling their souls to the devil. And let us not be fooled by the theatrics of George H W Busch going to church for a prayer before he initiated his murderous war against Iraq or that of John Kerry, a Hasidic Jew, taking the holy communion ( both witnessed by my own eyes); these are the psy-ops that throw wool into the eyes of the ill informed masses who are prisoners of the matrix.

    The link between the secret societies and the world of finance is irrefutable. Hopefully the leads that I have provided by naming some of great authors would help us get a better idea about the world of the occult. Let us just remember that Satan is the master of illusion through inversion of reality, and to try to beat him at his own game is definitely beyond our ability unless we stick to the teaching of Jesus Christ.

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  233. anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    all I need to know is that yesterday Jeffrey Sachs said lockdown should continue through April, and today Trump agreed.
    What does Sachs know about epidemiology?
    What does Sachs know about looting entire nations?
    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/harvard-boys-do-russia/

    Fauci, who does know epidemiology, is window-dressing, the fall- guy, the wop who will say whatever the master needs saying
    Colin Powell in white-face

  234. Rurik says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Have you read The Hiram Key?

    no, but a quick search makes it look intriguing.

    I did recognize the name of Hiram from an introduction to the Masons that I got when an elderly Mason invited me to join, and gave me a book to read, introducing me to some of the tenets, without betraying any of the secrets.

    The Hiram fellow seems to be the Jesus of the Masons. A Jewish martyr who’s murdered by some thugs, and for whom the Masons are always making a big deal about.

    Just the part of the Jewish martyr, was enough to put me off, (having heard nothing but fealty to Jewish martyrs all my life. (Jesus, Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust…)

    But the book was also full of tropes about evil Nazis, and blah, blah, blah..

    So I never went to the meeting, and the poor old fellow was put off. (it was such an honor to be invited in, blah, blah..)

    At some point a good article on the Masons and their intrigues would be a good subject for the Unz Review, I would think.

  235. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    but if they climb the ladder to the highest echelons, then it is naive to think that they make it by acting like true Christians.

    What would you say was their agenda? Personal wealth? Power?

    From what I’ve read, that Albert Pike fellow seemed to have done rather well for himself, and had some interesting things to say about Lucifer.

    If at the top, the Masons are Lucifer-ian, that then would go a long way towards making sense of their fealty to Zion and the wars.

    Many CIA and FBI officers are decent people but the higher they move up the ranks the more their ethical standard has to be compromised and they can never reach the top positions without selling their souls to the devil.

    Too true, Joe

    The link between the secret societies and the world of finance is irrefutable.

    That I do not doubt.

    I remember reading something about some sinister things in London’s financial center, reeking of secret society ritualistic crap.

    Let us just remember that Satan is the master of illusion through inversion of reality, and to try to beat him at his own game is definitely beyond our ability unless we stick to the teaching of Jesus Christ.

    Well, when it comes to the teaching of Jesus Christ, I’m looking for some real-world evidence that Christianity holds out some hope for the people of Christendom. And if it doesn’t, but rather, continues to work to import Somalis into Minnesota, and celebrate diversity! And promote the Globohomo, I’m going to become even less enamored of it – as the Pope demands the West commit suicide.

    I think Christianity was (and still is in some places like Poland and Russia), a great boon to our civilization at some points in History. The Reconquista of Spain, for instance.

    But at heart, I think a religion should (must) fulfill the basic spiritual needs of a people for them to prosper and persevere in the world they live in. If it fills their souls with vigor, to triumph over their enemies, then it is a good and successful religion, and should be heralded from the length and breath of the lands. But, if a religion teaches a people to be passive in their dealings with their enemies, and always, always be tolerant of others, until those others have supplanted the Christians from their own lands, then perhaps there’s some soul searching that needs to be done, vis-a-vis one’s religion, no?

    What good will Christianity be, once Europe becomes Muslim, and the churches are all converted to Mosques?

    Where Joe, are the Christians in Europe demanding that Europe is for Christians? Where, even is one Christian in Sweden or England, saying that ‘Sweden is for the Swedes!, or ‘England is for the Brits! ?

    I don’t know of one. And if one came forward, to defy the Pope and the Christian leadership of the West .. then with one voice the entire Christian leadership of the Western world, would all spew out of their “Judeo”-Christian mouths ‘racist!’ Or ‘Nazi’

    So I hope you’ll please forgive me if I’m becoming rather jaded at what amounts to Christianity today. Just as I’m certain, the Christ would be, if He were to witness the level of leadership (Pope, Hagee, et al) the Christian church has descended into.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  236. When will it end? There’s no reason to think it shall ever end.
    In the absence of a vaccine, eventually there’ll be no-one left but survivors, and the very few who’ve been able to implement extreme sequestration.

  237. @Rurik

    Hi Rurik,

    I did send you an answer to your last post with a 1900 words post which was a dialogue between Dr. Hoffman and myself about Christianity, universality and globalism which Looks like it had been censured. A first for me since I started posting on this site. I don’t know where I have gone wrong since I always take the due care not to be offensive.

    I just think it interesting to open the links Below:

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=205031
    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=205027

    That should put into perspective a lot about the Corona virus.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Rurik
  238. anon[827] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Here’s the opinion of the Judges who voted the Act down:
    On 19 March 1951, the Court ruled in a 6:1 judgement (Latham CJ dissenting) that the Act was invalid. In his judgement, Fullagar J summarised the position of the bench thusly,

    “The validity of a law or of an administrative act done under a law cannot be made to depend on the opinion of the law-maker, or the person who is to do the act, that the law or the consequence of the act is within the constitutional power upon which the law in question itself depends for its validity. A power to make laws with respect to lighthouses does not authorize the making of a law with respect to anything which is, in the opinion of the law-maker, a lighthouse. A power to make a proclamation carrying legal consequences with respect to a lighthouse is one thing: a power to make a similar proclamation with respect to anything which in the opinion of the Governor-General is a lighthouse is another thing.”[14]

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  239. @anon

    Thanks. From memory he would have been saying that the opinion of the government that or was seeking to do something for the defence of the country was not enough. The question was whether the law really did come under the relevant head of federal power in the Constitution.

  240. @NoseytheDuke

    Do you know if any new laws are/have been needed to allow tracking of individuals so their compliance with quarantine or potential virus transmission rules can be enforced? What sort of warrant might now or previously have been needed for that?

  241. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Looks like it had been censured.

    It’s happened to me before Joe, when I’ve let it linger on the ‘Reply’ box I think for too long. Making changes and so forth, coming back to it an hour later when I had some task to perform.

    And then I’ll go to publish it and poof, it’s all gone. WTF @$#!

    I have no explanation, because most of the things I write here all get published, (even the stuff that perhaps shouldn’t be ; )

    Nevertheless, I appreciate your efforts, (I know they were done in good faith, because that’s obvious by now). And since we’re both still here, we’ll have more opportunities to banter about here on Ron’s phenomenal website.

  242. MaryLS says:
    @Surtr

    I’m sorry. Your story makes no sense. Why do you think Trump would target you?

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