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The United States is now at war with Iran in a conflict that could easily have been avoided and it will not end well. There will be no declaration of war coming from either side, but the assassination of Iranian Quds Force Commander General Qassem Soleimani and the head of Kata’ib Hezbollah Abu Mehdi Muhandis by virtue of a Reaper drone strike in Baghdad will shift the long-simmering conflict between the two nations into high gear. Iran cannot let the killing of a senior military officer go unanswered even though it cannot directly confront the United States militarily. But there will be reprisals and Tehran’s suspected use of proxies to stage limited strikes will now be replaced by more damaging actions that can be directly attributed to the Iranian government. As Iran has significant resources locally, one can expect that the entire Persian Gulf region will be destabilized.

And there is also the terrorism card, which will come into play. Iran has an extensive diaspora throughout much of the Middle East and, as it has been threatened by Washington for many years, it has had a long time to prepare for a war to be fought largely in the shadows. No American diplomat, soldier or even tourists in the region should consider him or herself to be safe, quite the contrary. It will be an “open season” on Americans. The U.S. has already ordered a partial evacuation of the Baghdad Embassy and has advised all American citizens to leave the country immediately.

Donald Trump rode to victory in 2016 on a promise to end the useless wars in the Middle East, but he has now demonstrated very clearly that he is a liar. Instead of seeking detente, one of his first actions was to end the JCPOA nuclear agreement and re-introduce sanctions against Iran. In a sense, Iran has from the beginning been the exception to Trump’s no-new-war pledge, a position that might reasonably be directly attributed to his incestuous relationship with the American Jewish community and in particular derived from his pandering to the expressed needs of Israel’s belligerent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Trump bears full responsibility for what comes next. The neoconservatives and Israelis are predictably cheering the result, with Mark Dubowitz of the pro-Israel Foundation for Defense of Democracies enthusing that it is “bigger than bin Laden…a massive blow to the [Iranian] regime.” Dubowitz, whose credentials as an “Iran expert” are dubious at best, is at least somewhat right in this case. Qassem Suleimani is, to be sure, charismatic and also very popular in Iran. He is Iran’s most powerful military figure in the entire region, being the principal contact for proxies and allies in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. But what Dubowitz does not understand is that no one in a military hierarchy is irreplaceable. Suleimani’s aides and high officials in the intelligence ministry are certainly more than capable of picking up his mantle and continuing his policies.

In reality, the series of foolish attacks initiated by the United States over the past week will only hasten the departure of much of the U.S. military from the region. The Pentagon and White House have been insisting that Iran was behind an alleged Kata’ib Hezbollah attack on a U.S. installation that then triggered a strike by Washington on claimed militia targets in Syria and also inside Iraq. Even though the U.S. military presence is as a guest of the Iraqi government, Washington went ahead with its attack even after the Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi said “no.”

To justify its actions, Mark Esper, Secretary of Defense, went so far as to insist that “Iran is at war with the whole world,” a clear demonstration of just how ignorant the White House team actually is. The U.S. government characteristically has not provided any evidence demonstrating either Iranian or Kata’ib involvement in recent developments, but after the counter-strike killed 26 Iraqi soldiers, the mass demonstrations against the Embassy in Baghdad became inevitable. The demonstrations were also attributed to Iran by Washington even though the people in the street were undoubtedly Iraqis.

Now that the U.S. has also killed Suleimani and Muhandis in a drone strike at Baghdad Airport, clearly accomplished without the approval of the Iraqi government, it is inevitable that the prime minister will ask American forces to leave. That will in turn make the situation for the remaining U.S. troops in neighboring Syria untenable. And it will also force other Arab states in the region to rethink their hosting of U.S. soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen due to the law of unanticipated consequences as it is now clear that Washington has foolishly begun a war that serves no one’s interests.

The blood of the Americans, Iranians and Iraqis who will die in the next few weeks is clearly on Donald Trump’s hands as this war was never inevitable and served no U.S. national interest. It will surely turn out to be a debacle, as well as devastating for all parties involved. And it might well, on top of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya, be the long-awaited beginning of the end of America’s imperial ambitions. Let us hope so!

Philip M. Giraldi is a former CIA counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer who served nineteen years overseas in Turkey, Italy, Germany, and Spain. He was the CIA Chief of Base for the Barcelona Olympics in 1992 and was one of the first Americans to enter Afghanistan in December 2001. Phil is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a Washington-based advocacy group that seeks to encourage and promote a U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East that is consistent with American values and interests.

(Republished from American Herald Tribune by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. A123 says:

    Iran started this latest round by violating International Law, slaughtering unarmed protesters and attacking an embassy. The ball is in the Ayatollah’s court, he can back down or escalate. Given that Khameni is a known sociopath, he will probably try to escalate even though he is in a very weak position.

    The blood of the Americans, Iranians and Iraqis who will die in the next few weeks is clearly on Ayatollah Khameni’s hands as this war was never inevitable and served no Iranian national interest. It will surely turn out to be a debacle, as well as devastating to Iranian elites. And it might well be the long-awaited beginning of the end of the authoritarian rule of bloodthirsty Ayatollahs in Iran. Let us hope so!

    PEACE 😇

  2. Dumbo says:

    Donald Trump rode to victory in 2016 on a promise to end the useless wars in the Middle East, but he has now demonstrated very clearly that he is a liar

    He also promised a wall. Maybe he meant the Israeli wall?

    Honestly, at this point, anyone who takes seriously the promises of any candidate (or even “democracy” as a whole) is a fool.

    Obama also promised to end useless wars, got a Nobel Peace Prize just for that empty promise, and before the money of the prize was in his pockets he was already ordering drone strikes.

  3. gandzakan says:
    @A123

    Dream on A123, dream on.I hope you are paid for this kind of work.
    Demon, you are.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  4. What was Qassem Soleimani doing near the U.S. Embassy?

    What possible reason could he have for being there?

    Does Giraldi remember 1979?

    And it might well, on top of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya, be the long-awaited beginning of the end of America’s imperial ambitions.

    Oh, so in 2020, Giraldi says the Libya invasion was imperial ambition. In 2011 he said it was humanitarian. What happened, Phil?

  5. @A123

    In our guts, we know you’re nuts.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  6. Cara Lee says:

    After disagreeing on a couple of points in this article (civilly, of course) on social media and having a conversation with one of Philip’s connections, who was in the process of providing some data to change my mind, Philip sadly decided to block me. I like a lot of what Philip writes, and it is indeed unfortunate that we can’t even have a civil debate without a couple of people jumping in with foolish personal attacks and then Philip, who is most times a reasonable man, deciding to block a longtime connection over a political disagreement, especially when that person was in the process of asking questions and receiving answers. A sad sign of our times.

    • Agree: Hong Kong Hibernian
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Skeptikal
  7. The oil producing states in the USA — such as Alaska, Texas, North Dakota, New Mexico and others — will be happy to see hostilities between the American Empire and Iran, and the Russians and Mexicans and Brazilians and Canadians and other oil producing nations will be similarly pleased to see the price of oil jump way over a hundred dollars a barrel.

    The Saudi Arabians are most likely trying to bribe the Iranians so that the Iranians don’t bomb the living Hell out of Saudi Arabian oil installations but maybe the bribe won’t be big enough or the Iranian strategists want to pop the price of oil before they do anything else. The Iranians might be enticed by Saudi Arabian offers of dollars or other hard currencies in large quantities and the Iranians might hold off on pulverizing the Hell out of any and all oil facility targets in Saudi Arabia. The bribery negotiations might be highly civilized with the Iranians and Saudi Arabians sitting around eating figs and caviar and mulling over bribery figures.

    Meanwhile, the greedy oil interests in the USA and globally are licking their frigging chops at the thought of oil jumping to 150 dollars a barrel and staying there. The human factor must be considered without considerations of whether or not the niceties of proper behaviour are in play. The oil money grubber people want more loot and they don’t give a damn how they get it.

    The Iranians might split the difference and take half the bribe money from the Saudi Arabians and then bomb the Hell out of half the targets they originally planned to hit. The Saudi Arabians could helpfully point out some aging oil installations that were due for refurbishment anyhow and tell the Iranians they could hit them. I guess the oil business is murderous up to a point, and then the negotiations kick in.

    If the Iranians don’t partially pop the Saudi Arabian oil installations, then maybe the Iranians and Saudi Arabians have a sneaky prior deal on that.

    The Iranians have to play the public relations game and the best way to do that would be to jump up the price of oil while telling the Iranian people that they will get their revenge but not just yet, and the Iranians will tell their people that the long game is the way to go.

    Don’t tell me that the oil people money grubbers ain’t licking their chops like ravenous wolves at the thought of the Iranians pounding all kinds of Hell out of Saudi Arabian oil installations!

    • Agree: JoannF
    • Replies: @GogMagoggian
  8. JamesD says:

    And it will also force other Arab states in the region to rethink their hosting of U.S. soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen due to the law of unanticipated consequences as it is now clear that Washington has foolishly begun a war that serves no one’s interests.

    So the Sunni’s are going to be ticked off Trump took on Iran?

    Iran started this with the tanker and oil facility attack. Most likely Trump is working with Saudi on this.

    To be honest, we need to leave the Mid East, but Trump couldn’t let those attacks go unanswered.

  9. The question – who benefits? – has not been raised.
    There was no benefit to Kata’ib Hezbollah or the Iranians to attack an American installation.
    There was no benefit to the Iranians to attack the US Embassy in Iraq.
    There was no benefit to anyone in Iraq or Iran in the shooting of “peaceful demonstrators” in Iraq.
    There is only one beneficiary to all of the above – Israel.

    Mr. Giraldi is quite correct in laying this at Trump’s feet and referring to his incestuous relationship regarding Israel. After all, it it Trump that pulled out of the JCPOA, and ultimately gave the order to strike. A previous strike was called off, what has changed? I understand Mr. Giraldi is a never Trumper, and that is his right. Often it is not what he says, but what he doesn’t say, that is problematic. In this article, two things not expanded stand out to me. The author proclaims his support for the JCPOA.
    What is never explained is that the JCPOA was a voluntary restriction, by Iran, on its rights as a signatory under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Former Reagan nuclear advisor Dr. Gordon Prather was writing about the illegality of forcing restrictions on Iran back in the days when “Bonkers” Bolton was foaming at the mouth for Bush 43 at the UN. Trump cancelling the deal was not the problem. The problem was maintaining the US’s illegal position on Iran’s rights under the NPT. Mr. Giraldi’s opposition to the cancelling, without context, means he finds the US’s illegal position on Iran’s rights under an international treaty as acceptable.
    The second issue is the intelligence surrounding the “alleged Kata’ib Hezbollah attack on a U.S. installation”. This is an operation straight out of the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service manual. It was acknowledged, by the military, 20 years ago Israel had the capability to stage an attack and blame it on “Arabs”. Who were those involved in providing the “intelligence to Trump? How many of those people know/knew the intelligence to be questionable or outright false, but allowed it to pass on anyway without caveat? It is unknown whether Trump “asked the right questions” about the intelligence, and if it came from military sources, I suspect none at all, of substance, were asked. Again, yes Trump will, and should, be blamed, but how much of it involves the traitors within who will continue with the internal rot?

  10. If the Iranians are as smart as they’re supposed to be (relative to the hot headed, inbred Arabs) they’ll
    skip not only direct confrontation with the US but also high profile (and heavily guarded) sites like military bases, embassies and major tourist spots. Instead they should focus on easy to hit targets like malls in the midwest and synagogues.

    May God bless the Iranians.

  11. @Bragadocious

    You are one of the supreme a-holes on this site and I wish you would go somewhere else to spread your pollution. But I will answer your question: Soleimani was not near the embassy. He had flown into to town to attend the funerals of the 26 Iraqi militiamen that we Americans had killed earlier in the week!

  12. @A123

    Go piss up a rope, troll. Stop spamming all of the threads on this site.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @TKK
  13. This is a watershed moment in our enslaved country, and the net is rife with speculations as to where this will lead to.

    Personally, I don’t believe that this will erupt in WW3, but the days of casual travel by high-ranking US officials is probably over in the near term. What follows will be millions of paper cuts and constant stress for our sons and daughters relegated to foreign lands in the war for Israel. Did you sign up your children to die for Israel? I didn’t.

    So what can we expect? A lot of our children are going to come back in body bags in the weeks ahead. The murder of the Iranian general with no proof of his hand in the recent death of an American mercenary in Iraq, is a war crime – but who’s looking? We have become imitators of our BFF, Israel. Not only have we militarized our police force under their auspices, we flout International law and civil rights without even blinking once. Sure, many Iranians (and Iraqi) innocents will die in the process, but the silver lining is that this will start the dominoes falling and lead to our Vietnam-like exit from the ME with our tail between our legs, as we repeat the helicopter exits from the roofs of our embassies.

    From all indications, the Iranian general was a revered man inside and outside Iran. He appears to have arrived in Baghdad to attend the funeral of the people killed in the airstrike by US/Israel. Killing people headed to funerals and weddings seems to have become our MO in recent years. No US president in the last few decades has had his hands clean. Out damned spot!

    Meanwhile, who was that “killed” contractor? Is there a name attached to that speculatively fictitious soul whose alleged death was the rationale for the murder? It is a sign of the times that our first reaction to anything we hear from the PTB is one of skepticism and disbelief. This does not bode well for our rulers when the slaves reject whatever claims they make.

    Sadly, the revolution will not begin in Pretoria, but in distant lands, far from the prying eyes of the sleeping citizenry of this land. As Allison Weir would say, if Americans knew what is being perpetrated in our name, they would realize that we are all Palestinians.

    Trump has been compromised. Whether you believe that he is or isn’t behind this, is irrelevant. Frankly, it doesn’t really matter who the president is – he is a powerless puppet. I suspect that the deep state initiated this and then informed Trump post-facto. The absence of an immediate tweets (tweet with a US flag suggests speechlessness), followed by an announcement from the Pentagon that Trump had personally ordered the attack, instead of Trump boasting about it, does not fit his usual pattern. My guess is that he knows that going against the will of the deep state would result in his being JFK’ed.

    I expect the following in the days ahead:
    – There will be outrage in Iraq and demands for us to go home – which we won’t
    – Our children/cannon fodder will be targeted across the ME
    – One or more US high officials or Military leaders will be assassinated, perhaps Graham or Pompeo or Adelson
    – Israel will use the distraction to annex more Palestinian territory.
    – Every US politician will blame the victims
    – Israel and KSA will be walking around in adult diapers for the next shoe to drop

    Take heart, the end is nigh. It is the witching hour. It is a replay of history as the empire shoots itself in the foot. Remember which country invented the game of Chess – it wasn’t us or our European cousins.

  14. I read somewhere that the order for this assassination came from Trump himself. I read this as meaning that the order came from Israel and Trump’s staff advised against it. I hope Iran takes this into account as they plan their retaliation.
    The other interesting dynamic is that common folk are waking up to the ZOG on the one hand, and the government/media is doing their level best to slow this awakening. I wonder how this assassination and its aftermath fit into all of it.

    • Replies: @Ronnie
    , @Darymple
  15. The one big fear I have in the near-term is that, with the expected retaliation from Iran, it is the perfect opportunity for Israel to launch a false flag somewhere and blame it on Iran, further turning up the heat.

    As always, ask: cui bono?

    • Agree: chris, 22pp22, Bookish1
    • Replies: @renfro
    , @sasu
  16. @A123

    Remind me, who is the invader – Iran or the Zionist entity?

    • Replies: @A123
  17. nickels says:

    Well, Just like Russia 1917, America needs its futile war to fuel unrest and revolution, so the liberal coup will be followed by its bloodthirsty socialist bedfellow.
    Perhaps the Russian Revolution was as necessary and inevitable as the Murikan fall from grace.
    I guess we’ll never know.

  18. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Hey CD

    I have a question I can’t answer so give me your take…..

    “What if’…..next week, month, whenever…..the headline news was about the head of AIPAC, the head of the ZOA, head of JINSA, several Jewish msm owners……all being killed over the course of a few days by a sniper.

    Who would the police and press ,in the absence of any suspect caught, place the blame on? Would they ascribe it to white nationalist or some other ‘domestic ‘terrorism?

    Or would they call it the work of foreign ME terrorist enemies of Israel?

    How do you think the public would read it?

  19. PAX says:

    We have become Israel. How very sad. We were better.

    • Replies: @Castellio
    , @renfro
    , @geokat62
  20. @renfro

    Happy New Year, renfro, if we can survive it!

    “What if’…..next week, month, whenever…..the headline news was about the head of AIPAC, the head of the ZOA, head of JINSA, several Jewish msm owners……all being killed over the course of a few days by a sniper.

    Who would the police and press ,in the absence of any suspect caught, place the blame on?

    Well it would be hard to blame it on Iran, since the connection would be a stretch. Given the spate of excitement about the rising tide of antishemanti, it would probably result in even more draconian laws being enacted to clobber free speech and criminalize dissent in the US.

    So, white nationalists would be the first targets, followed by muslim radicals. Both have been sufficiently demonized by the 5th column so that connection would be facile.

    Now, a few vets with PTSD, as you speculated elsewhere, would make some excellent snipers avenging their fallen comrades in wars for Israel…

    Is the public ready to blame Israel? I think the numbers are on the rise, but I am unsure (based on conversations with people at work) whether we have reached the tipping point yet, but a war with Iran would quickly get us there, IMO.

  21. anon[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @JamesD

    Iran started this with the tanker and oil facility attack.

    Donald Trump and his friends in the Israel lobby started this first by pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal and imposing draconian economic sanctions, leaving Iran with no choice but to react to your provocations. There were no tanker attacks (zero casualties) or oil facility attacks (zero American casualties) before that. In the case of the drone attack you referenced later, no one was killed; so, this wasn’t any kind of proportionate response. It was also months ago, so it can’t be used to justify this atrocity, either.

    BTW, this whole thing was started back when the Empire organized protests against Iran in Iraq a few weeks ago. Funny how you Hasbara trolls left that part out.

    To be honest, we need to leave the Mid East, but Trump couldn’t let those attacks go unanswered.

    A classic Hasbara tactic involves steering the audience to a favorable conclusion by pretending to be on their side. Thus, the commenter prefaces his comment with the phrase “we need to leave the Mid East … but”. 100 to 1 this guy isn’t really for removing US troops from the Middle East.

    So the Sunni’s are going to be ticked off Trump took on Iran?

    Who exactly wants to be a target in a Jew-backed war against Iran? Compare pictures of Syria 2006 with Syria 2016. War is harsh.

    What was Qassem Soleimani doing near the U.S. Embassy? What possible reason could he have for being there?

    Right, right.

    [Checks international law]

    Yeah, I don’t see the part where that’s illegal.

    And it might well be the long-awaited beginning of the end of the authoritarian rule of bloodthirsty Ayatollahs in Iran. Let us hope so!

    Funny how the first comment on this article was from a Zionist shill. It’s almost as if they were monitoring the site and trying to steer the conversation by being the first to comment. And it’s hardly the first time they’ve done that here. It’s a noticeable pattern. Zionist Jews are salivating over the prospect of getting the American goyim to fight their regional enemies for them. Thousands of dead Americans and not a drop of precious chosen blood spilled in the process. They are beyond evil. Don’t fall for their lies.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @DanFromCT
  22. Donald Trump rode to victory in 2016 on a promise to end the useless wars in the Middle East, but he has now demonstrated very clearly that he is a liar. Instead of seeking detente, one of his first actions was to end the JCPOA nuclear agreement and re-introduce sanctions against Iran.

    I don’t think tearing up the JCPOA makes Trump a liar. It was one of the few campaign pledges that he actually followed through on.

  23. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Go piss up a rope, troll. Stop spamming all of the threads on this site.

    He’s obviously Hasbara. Click on his username and go through his comments. There’s an obvious pattern here. I’ve noticed this shill (and others) doing the same on this website for years. They wait for Giraldi to post an article and then within moments they have a canned comment ready to post near or at the top of the tread. That happens because they monitor the site and coordinate posts as soon as articles go live. It’s a tactic to derail the conversation.* Although, it usually backfires here because their opponents are capable of seeing through the ruse. Breitbart and Free Republic on the other hand — pure rube bait.

    *Perhaps a solution to this issue might involve randomizing the appearance of the first ten comments withinga certain time frame of the article appearing on the website.

    • Replies: @A123
  24. @A123

    It’s usually best to know the words to the music before you stand up to sing, but the person making this comment is someone who doesn’t agree with the principle.

    Just appallingly inappropriate and uninformed words.

    Perhaps, IDF or unemployed Israeli student earning pocket change from the government to kick up dust?

    • Replies: @Momus
  25. Fakeianity begged for war;
    Their cup filled to the rim with blood.
    Now th’Evangels lust even more:
    Let the planet run with wormwood.

    • Agree: davidgmillsatty
  26. A123 says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Remind me, who is the invader – Iran or the Zionist entity?

    — Iranian Kataib Hezbollah is present in Iraq over the objections of many Arab citizens (mostly Shia) who resent Persian interference.
    — To the best of my knowledge Israel has no troops in Iraq.

    So by process of elimination among the two choices you list…. Iran is the invader.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @MEexpert
  27. @Philip Giraldi

    So the 26 members of Kata’ib Hezbollah…they were the good guys? That’s not what your hero Obama said. He was the one who designated them terrorists in July 2009.

    Was Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis (not Mehdi as you say) a good guy too? He was near the embassy.

    It will be an “open season” on Americans.

    You said the same thing would happen if Trump moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. Didn’t happen did it?

  28. A123 says:
    @anon

    Anon[311],

    Normally I try to avoid responding to Anon’s, but in this case it makes sense to do so.

    They wait for Giraldi to post an article and then within moments they have a canned comment ready to post near or at the top of the tread. That happens because they monitor the site and coordinate posts as soon as articles go live.

    I am not part of any “group”. I was around today, and I had made a point up in the Announcement section that more Authors were going to start their own threads on this topic.

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/open-threads-and-other-commenting-changes/#comment-3640829

    It was not hard to get an early post in when the article drop timing was highly predictable. If you look carefully, you will see that I read the article and have a response specific to it. I did a rewrite of the last paragraph of the piece, which could not be ‘canned’.

    Breitbart and Free Republic on the other hand — pure rube bait.

    Breitbart tends to get solid information out early. More importantly, the indexing and search function is well constructed so you can usually find older articles for use as citations. It is a large group of reporters, so there are some poor ones that are less effective communicators. The site advertisement flow is terrible, but what can you do?

    Drudge Report used to be the site for breaking news, but it has become deranged in the past 12 months. I think Matt Drudge sold the site to someone else.

    If you want other sources talking about how Ayatollah Khameni is disliked by his own people, there are items published everywhere. For example: (1)

    The big unknown for Khamenei — and frankly for everyone — is to what extent most Iranians would back their leader in a regional showdown sparked by a revenge strike for Soleimani. Patriotism runs deep in Iran, but in recent years protesters have also become far more cynical about Tehran’s foreign adventurism when the domestic economy is creaking. Their fundamental questions are about why there is money for escapades in Iraq, but not for them.

    Soleimani was definitely more popular than Khameni. Did Khameni send him to Iraq to be in a known location within U.S. weapons range? I am not saying that I believe this is the case, but it is an interesting question. Weak leaders fear strong potential rivals, and the IRGC is the force best positioned to get rid of the Ayatollah.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.politico.eu/article/iran-us-conflict-qassem-soleimani-assassination-khamenei-donald-trump/

    • Troll: Herald
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Svigor
    , @Anon
  29. Doubling down on stupid:

    Whether he is eating ice cream or not, Trump appears to be on a rampage to recreate the end of The Godfather.

    Less than 24 hours after a US drone shockingly killed the top Iranian military leader, Qasem Soleimani, resulting in equity markets groaning around the globe in fear over Iranian reprisals (and potentially, World War III), the US has gone for round two with Reuters and various other social media sources reporting that US air strikes targeting Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Units umbrella grouping of Iran-backed Shi’ite militias near camp Taji north of Baghdad, have killed six people and critically wounded three, an Iraqi army source said late on Friday.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/round-two-us-drone-airstrikes-kill-six-pro-iran-militia-commanders

  30. geokat62 says:
    @Bragadocious

    So the 26 members of Kata’ib Hezbollah…they were the good guys?

    Depends on your perspective, I guess. One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

    That’s not what your hero Obama said.

    Hero? I thought Giraldi has already disclosed he is more aligned with the right of centre. Do pay attention!

    Was Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis (not Mehdi as you say) a good guy too?

    See first comment, above.

    You said the same thing would happen if Trump moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. Didn’t happen did it?

    No, it didn’t… though many predicted it, not just Giraldi.

    Listen, if you’re not too enamoured with Giraldi’s analysis, why not seek the analysis of the neocons? They seemed to have gotten everything right, no?

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  31. barr says:

    The man who fights Iran
    Mark Dubowitz dedicates himself to defending US against global terror, Iranian threat
    Yitzhak Benhorin|
    Iran takes pleasure in seeing the US and the world focusing on recent developments in the Arab world, one man ensures that the Iranian nuclear threat remain on the agenda. His name is Mark Dubowitz, the executive director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) and head of the independent organization’s Iran Project. 
     

    [MORE]

    The FDD (www.defenddemocracy.org) was established following the September 11 attacks and is sponsored by private donors and foundations concerned with defending the US against global terror and the Iranian threat. 
     
    Dubowitz’s group employs 32 professionals and his project website, www.iranenergyproject.org, has turned into a user’s manual on any issue pertaining to sanctions against Iran, ranging from various pieces of legislation to the monitoring their implementation and presenting the list of companies that no longer do business with the Islamic Republic

    In the framework of his campaign to raise awareness for the Iranian threat, Dubowitz utilizes any available means. For example, he may arrive at a meeting in Canada’s Prime Minister Office, and on the way there stop by a local TV studio and bluntly urge Ottawa to shift from talk to action.

    While Dubowitz is soft spoken, his words reach deep. This modest man’s TV appearances and the articles he writes for leading US newspapers are not meant to promote him personally, but rather, to embarrass and warn anyone still doing business with Iran.

    At the age of 42, Dubowitz has turned into an authority on the Iranian issue, and the US Administration is eager to hear what he has to say about the sanctions imposed on Tehran. He appears at Congressional hearings and briefs US military officials, as well as senior Western officials. 
     
    Popular in Washington  
    One is amazed to discover that the US, a superpower boasting 16 intelligence agencies, nonetheless relies on the information and ideas of a man who heads an independent organization. 
     
    Dubowitz himself told Ynet that he was uncomfortable being the subject of the article, lavishing praise on officials in the National Security Council, State Department, Treasury and Congress throughout the interview. These officials are working around the clock to address this highly important issue, he said. 
     
    “These are the real heroes who do not get the credit,” he said. 
     
    So why does the US Administration need Dubowitz and his people? A senior aide in an important Congressional committee told Ynet that “nobody in this town dedicates so much time and effort to one issue. Mark and his research team do an excellent job. If we have a question, they are the first ones we turn to.” 

    The aide said that receiving such information from intelligence officials takes time and requires plenty of paperwork, while Dubowitz’ people “work quickly and are accessible.

    They come to us with information and with ideas. In order to pass legislation on the matter, we need good ideas,” he said 
     
    Shining star in business world  
    Dubowitz’ personal history may be the factor that makes the difference. He arrived from the business sector, where the bottom line matters most and was on the fast track to major success, working in the venture capital industry and focusing on fundraising for early-stage technology companies. He also served as director of international business development for DoubleClick, later acquired by Internet giant Google. 
     
    Business, investment and the law are major milestones in Dubowitz’s life journey. He was born in Johannesburg and grew up in Canada, completing his law degree in Toronto and graduating with honors with a master’s in international public policy from Johns Hopkins University. On top of that, he also studied in Jerusalem’s Hebrew University and in Paris. 
     
    However, despite his great business success, Dubowitz chose to focus on realizing his true dream.

    I was a strange kid with an obsession with terrorism and plane hijackings. On September 11th it turned out that terrorism is not just an international problem, after it hit us at home,” he said. “I was deeply fearful for the future and decided to quit the private sector and come to Washington, to see if I could make a small difference. In 2003 I joined a small organization (FDD) despite not having any relevant political or policy experience and coming from a wholly different background.” 
     

    Quick response time  
    Dubowitz does not produce thick studies that gather dust at research institutes, but rather, responds quickly to immediate needs, provides information and offers solutions. 
     
    “We closely monitor international companies that do business with Iran, invest in Iran’s energy sector and provide important equipment and technologies to this sector,” he said, adding that his organization also monitors the movement of commercial vessels coming into and leaving Iran. 
     
    “We look for ships that arrive from North Korea and are interested in suspicious vessels that change their flag more than once,” he said. “We also follow ships that take suspicious routes and transfer uranium from Africa or arms, for example…we have no way of knowing what’s inside these ships, but we provide information about the movement of suspicious vessels to the US Administration.” 
     
    Dubowitz says that his organization’s goal is not only to closely monitor companies doing business with Iran, but also to analyze Tehran’s response to the sanctions. 
     
    “It’s a chess game. Iran seeks loopholes in US legislation and opportunities to circumvent it,” he said. “When we discover something that we deem to be of great significance, we write about it in the press, talk about it on television, or quietly approach our friends in the Administration and in Congress.”

    Military strike? Not now
    Dubowitz does not think that now is the right time for military strikes on Iran. 
     
    “The sanctions are working by putting pressure on the regime, although they have not secured their objective and may never do so – putting an end to Iran’s nuclear program. The best way is to work towards changing the regime. Any deal cut with this regime will be violated.” 
     
    Dubowitz notes that the US and Europe have failed in providing moral and material support that could have been decisive during the Iranian protests of June 2009.

    The Administration realizes this, and has started to change its tone,” he said, adding that the next measures against Iran will take the form of tighter personal sanctions against senior Islamic republic officials and their supporters, a move that got underway a few days ago after the European Union blacklisted 32 senior Iranian officials. The US also extended its own list, including 10 more senior figures in Ahmadinejad’s regime.

    “This is an important step. The Administration is changing its policy and now comes the phase of exerting direct pressure on those who carry out the regime’s decisions in the area of human rights,” Dubowitz said. “This is a key move. The objective here is to single them out personally, to isolate and alarm them. From now on they must think twice before murdering and torturing their own people.” 
     
    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4060499,00.html

    Epstein with his experience or Madoof with his experience could have been a better Iran expert . Media could have asked him oneway to appear on TV . AIPAC bribed leaders could have asked Congress to talk to these guys Madoff or Epstein and asked Canada’s counterpart to do same . Miraculously a star would have been born – Iran expert .
    You see Congress is so busy and needs to find a reason to attack Iran . Who do they go to? A business man whose interest was terrism and hijackings of planes . At least Dubowitz ( he should have changed names like Schumer did like or Begin did or Abdullah Sassoon did ) can spell Iran for the morons .

    Do this country serve any respect ?

    I have feeling that China Russia and Israel want US to be done along with Iran .

  32. Now would be the perfect time for the Mossad to do its false flag shtick. They wouldn’t even have to try very hard to pin it on Iran. I’ll bet that when the news came out that the Iranian guy had been killed, every neocon on the planet popped a boner that will last for days. Michael Ledeen is probably mazel tov-ing his ass off.

    I don’t care about the dead Muslim who got killed, since that’s the only kind of “good Muslim” you’re ever going to find, but I would still prefer for the U.S. to get out of the Middle East altogether. Let those two warring anti-Christ peoples kill each other to their hearts’ content.

  33. TG says:

    To some extent it is not relevant if Trump was lying during his campaign, or has been corrupted/coopted/fooled/pressured/played for a chump by the establishment. He said one thing and is doing another: that’s the bottom line.

    However: I note that after Barack Obama got elected, he immediately fired all of his populist advisors and hired Wall Streeters even before being sworn in. Obama was clearly lying up front.

    Trump, however, initially did start moving in the direction he said he would, he kept his populist/nationalist advisors, and really did make actual moves to carry out his campaign promises. And the establishment went total nut job, he was a Russian agent, his populist advisers were targeted for legal actions, they were replaced with establishment advisors who hate him… Trump was strong on stage berating a political opponent, but against establishment pressure he has turned out to be weak, caving in to “the Blob” at every turn.

    Though again, a secondary point.

  34. Anon[116] • Disclaimer says:

    Mark Dubowitz’s rise from abyss of ignorance to Hall of Fame of US foreign policy exemplifies what wrong with US . Sharon Perle Wolfowitz Krotsol Kagan Kruthammr and Netanyahuu supplied US the inrpr,action logic conclusion and the consequences ( public and private ) of not listing to them as far as Iraq ‘s invasion was at stake .
    Sheldon was no where then . After Iran the dinosaur will retire to the Jungle inhabited by Ben
    Guiron and Janotinsky and Sharon .
    Suddenly a new. billionaire and a new Mark would appear trying to goad America to attack Antisemitism from Morocco to Malyisa and up the ante on behalf of Imdia against Pakistan .

    Saudi will see the consequences of friendship with Zio as Jordan’s king is finding out now .

    Mark or Wolfowitz being expert is like saying Epstein ‘s area of expertise include the healing of the children of sexual violence and

  35. MarkinLA says:
    @JamesD

    but Trump couldn’t let those attacks go unanswered.

    Not really, it all depends on the propaganda the people believe. If you believe Iran was behind these attacks then he is a pussy if he doesn’t respond. Iran NEVER claimed responsibility. If you would have gone along with that, there would be nothing to answer to. O f course, the Deep State and media wanted to push the Iran is responsible agenda but Trump could have continued to say there is no proof and used the false flag poinson gas attacks in Syria to back him up.

    • Agree: Michael888, Svigor
  36. @Cloak And Dagger

    Had she been elected, Hillary would already have started the neocon wet dream of a war with Iran. That was baked in to her getting off scot-free from her many crimes. Trump was supposed to have started one instead, but he hasn’t done that—even with the various meager pretexts for same—hence the impeachment. With that hanging over his head, war with Iran is his means of escape. Overall well-played by the usual suspects.

  37. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    I am not part of any “group”. I was around today …

    Sure. Right. You guys are around the very moment articles on Israel are posted, even in the middle of the night. You also happen to have the first comment on these articles and usually these posts seem canned — vaguely dealing with the subject matter at hand with only scant mention of points made in the article itself. Your top comment perfectly illustrates this point. Nowhere in it do you address the article itself or the author’s specific conclusions. Instead, it is a canned — inflammatory — comment prepared in advanced on the anticipated subject matter (Iran, in this case). You’re obvious Hasbara, and you just got called out.

    Additionally, your posting format is eerily similar between posts. This likely indicates you’re mass posting, probably across multiple websites or across one over a long period of time. People tend to adopt a posting “format”, so to speak, when they aren’t totally connected to the conversation at hand and are merely posting in a perfunctory fashion to fulfill a job requirement.

    Normally I try to avoid responding to Anon’s, but in this case it makes sense to do so.

    You responded because you felt you had to say something to my obviously correct analysis. Otherwise, your account is outed for all to see.

    If you want other sources talking about how Ayatollah Khameni is disliked by his own people,

    I mentioned in my comment that a common Hasbara tactic involves derailing conversations and the very same poster does exactly that in his response. Chutzpah! I never mentioned Khameni. The poster is trying to lure posters away from commenting on my Hasbara critique of him by leading the conversation down an irrelevant blind alley. I won’t fall for it. Don’t you fall for it either.

    • Agree: 2stateshmustate
    • Replies: @I'm Tyrone
  38. @Gleimhart Mantooso

    Had she been elected, Hillary would already have started the neocon wet dream of a war with Iran.

    While that may be true, I am tired of giving Trump a free pass, just because Hillary would have been worse. Being relatively less evil, or a different incarnation of evil, is still evil.

    Frankly, impeachment was just a distraction to divert attention from the real play. The dagger at his throat is from far more malevolent foes who can wield both blackmail or death as the circumstances demand to get their way. The jewish mafia is far more dangerous than the Sicilian boys could ever hope to be. The latter learned from the former.

    • Replies: @Gleimhart Mantooso
  39. Lot says:
    @A123

    Iran’s getting baited.

    Everyone seems to think they’ll take it and create a pretext for shock-and-awe level heavy bombing.

    I’m not so sure. Sometimes the bully slinks away after getting popped in the nose. My prediction: no escalation, just a lot of hot angry Persian air.

  40. vespasian says:

    You’ve missed the point.General Soleimani’s assassination was an inside job. Do you actually believe they were able to target this General without inside information? The new leader appointed to the Quds force is an Iranian jew named Esmail Qaani. My suggestion to you would be to do some background on Ali Khamenei, who appear every bit a jew himself. There have been many crypto jews running Iran, especially since the CIA coup in 1953 put the very jewish Shah in control. What does all this mean? It means that the jews in control of the US conspired with the jews who control Iran, to take out a potential threat to their rule. There is a rising faction against jewish rule in Iran and Soleimani was its de facto leader, polling around 85% favorability. Do you actually think the 731 Iranian bank burnings last month were some stupid protest against rising gas prices?

    https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/over-700-banks-burned-in-iran-unrest-says-interior-minister/article30095080.ece

    THERE WILL BE NO REPRISALS FROM IRAN BECAUSE THE JEWISH LEADERSHIP IN IRAN SET THIS ASSASSINATION UP! Watch what I tell you.

  41. @renfro

    How about someone try it and see? And take out some evangelicalChristian Zionists, too.

  42. @JamesD

    So the Sunni’s are going to be ticked off Trump took on Iran?

    The Sunni man-in-the-street is much more likely to set aside his differences with the Shi’a, than to takes sides with the kufar.

    Think of it this way: if China invaded the US, which side would most Canadians support?

    Also, think about close-to-theatre demographics.

    Iraq will be the US military ‘boots on the ground’ staging area in any conventional war against Iran. Shi’a opinion will make all the difference.

    Land warfare is significantly harder if your primary staging area is knee-deep in people who are very sympathetic to the other side.

    So consider…

    2/3rds of the Iraqi Muslim population are Shi’ite. They are concentrated in the South-East of Iraq. Shi’a are a majority of the population of Baghdad, where the decent-sized airports are (ignore USAB Ayn Al Asad: landing US forces in the middle of Iraq and driving all the way to the Iranian border would be retarded).

    So Baghdad would become a very (ahem) problematic staging area – especially if Sistani and Sadr start to rile up the Shia (and Sadr has been doing that since Soleimani’s assassination).

    The Sunni are split roughly 50/50 between Arabs and Kurds; the Kurds have no strong affection for the Arabs, Sunni or otherwise.

    So the only place the US has a relatively high proportion of friendlies (even assuming no fraternity-of-convenience between Iraqiyyun and Jazirani) is in Iraqi Kurdistan.

    Iraqi Kurdistan borders Iran… sounds like a plan!

    Well

    You might look at a Google Map and think – “Well, all the Kurds are in the North-East, so the US could just stage from Erbil or Kirkuk and have a straight shot to TeheranU!S!A!!U!S!A!“.

    Meanwhile there are people who have DEMs of the region (so can say things about topography), and who understand how hard it is to transport men, WATER, artillery and armour over mountains – even if you own the airspace outright (which the US won’t, in any engagement with Iran).

    Think “Korengal“, but with an opponent with 21st century weapons and near-peer air defences.

    The effect of the latter on air-cav alone, should make people think really hard: helicopters are critical in infil/exfil, medevac, resupply and operational overwatch – and they are as slow as fuck and have pissweak countermeasures. 1Cav hasn’t gone up against a peer opponent since Korea.

    .

    Topologically The US has one logistically (almost-)non-suicidal option for ‘boots on the ground’ invasion of Iran: everybody knows that.

    That is why the US will resort to Hermann Göring fag-tardery, i.e., trying to rely on air superiority to win a ground war.

    For these reasons, the US will either lose or will use nuclear weapons – which will hand Russia and China a moral victory, because it will permanently destroy US self-hagiography about freedom and so forth.

    .

    And if the US attacks Iran, how long do you think it would take for a supertanker to be sunk in the Straits?

    Trick question – the correct response is “Which Straits? Hormuz or Malacca?”

    The US has shown it can’t protect Malacca without crashing into shipping: in a recent display of historic comedic irony, the USS John McCain (named after Hanoi Songbird‘s Dad), showed itself to be as incompetent as the Songbird hisself, who killed more US seamen than the Viet Cong.

    • Thanks: Jay Fink
  43. @geokat62

    Before you arrogantly tell someone to pay attention maybe you should pay attention. Giraldi voted for President Housefly twice.

    Also, perhaps you should be less of a presumptuous wanker and stop telling people to go read something else. Truth is, Giraldi is more pro-intervention than I am. So by stopping by here, I am reading a neocon.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  44. As an American who lives abroad, this is just a repainting of the target I’ve had on my back for decades, compliments of people who live behind big defence perimeters and are surrounded by teams of bodyguards.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  45. ‘The United States is now at war with Iran…’

    That’s the truth. Keep pitching.

  46. And it might well, on top of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya, be the long-awaited beginning of the end of America’s imperial ambitions.

    One must ask; Is the US presence in the ME really because of imperial ambition? At least if it is I can understand. I mean, it’s bad but that’s what nations have done for centuries. Or is America in the ME at Israel’s insistence? Hers’s the roll: Afghanistan in 2002 and Iraq 2003, Libya in 2011, Syria shortly after that; not one of these countries threatened America, not one. Yet we invaded these nations, and brutally murdered Qadhaffi and Hussain, and we did it all based on lies dreamed up by Jewish dual citizens who call themselves American patriots but who are really agents of Israel.
    I’m not using the term neocons any longer, as the term is a lie, a mask. They are just a large group of powerful dual citizen Jews many descended from Trotskyites that immigrated from Russia in the 1930s. They hide their real intentions. And what are those intentions? To protect Israel by scaring the American public through their propaganda organ known as the MSM, scaring us into allowing a Trillion dollar military budget, and these forever wars. And anyone who questions them is an anti-Semite. And, that’s right from the mouth of Nathan Perlmutter in his essay; “The Real Anti-Semite In America”
    These parasitic dual citizen Jews and their Washington Think Tanks have to go. They are liars and cowards who will fight for Israel to the last drop of blood spills from the last American soldier. Trump knowingly, or not, is being used by these bastards. Today he’s a traitor and a liar too. Iran poses no threat to America. None Zilch
    Rome was imperialist, Spain, England yes,but the US doesn’t fit the definition. What does fit is ‘hired gun’. Right? So, who hired the USA? And, are they paying, or are they somehow threatening us or blackmailing us? There’s a rumor that part of Israel’s Samson option includes nuclear bombs hidden in 25 American cities. Veterans Today has mentioned it several times. Is it true? Maybe. Maybe someone should find out.

    • Agree: Eric135
  47. geokat62 says:
    @Bragadocious

    Before you arrogantly tell someone to pay attention maybe you should pay attention. Giraldi voted for President Housefly twice.

    After the GW disaster, most decent Americans voted for the peace candidate, not necessarily Democrat. Most astute observers would recognize this simple fact, but you missed it for some reason.

    Also, perhaps you should be less of a presumptuous wanker

    Says the wanker coming on Girald’s thread trying to ridicule him by saying Obama is his hero! lol

    Truth is, Giraldi is more pro-intervention than I am…

    Truth is, you don’t know shit about Giraldi. During the 2008 presidential primaries, he was a foreign policy advisor to Ron Paul. You can’t get any more non-interventionist than Ron Paul, clown!

    So by stopping by here, I am reading a neocon.

    Reading a neocon? Talk about a wanker!

  48. Eric135 says:
    @renfro

    What if…the headline news was about the head of AIPAC, the head of the ZOA, head of JINSA, several Jewish msm owners…all being killed over the course of a few days by a sniper. Who would the police and press…place the blame on? Would they ascribe it to white nationalists…or would they call it the work of foreign ME terrorist enemies of Israel? How do you think the public would read it?

    The public is too dumb to recognize that the Jews control America, much less connect our pointless wars for Israel to that Jewish control.

    The press and the politicians (and therefore, the police) are in the hands of the Jews.

    So white nationalists would be blamed.

  49. @Cloak And Dagger

    I don’t think I suggested giving Trump a free pass. I was addressing the obvious tactics used to manipulate him, and the fact they’re working.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  50. renfro says:
    @Eric135

    So white nationalists would be blamed.

    Well then my theoretical assassination plan would work. Because the gov would be looking in the wrong places.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  51. renfro says:

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/u-s-gives-israel-green-light-to-assassinate-iran-s-general-soleimani-1.5630156

    The report says Israel was “on the verge” of assassinating Soleimani three years ago, near Damascus, but the United States warned the Iranian leadership of the plan, revealing that Israel was closely tracking the Iranian general.

    It was Obama that warned Iran because the US Iran nuclear agreement was in effect and Israel was trying everything possible to wreck it…and just as they are doing now, to goad Iran into war.

    The way to stop Israel is to spill more Jewish blood than they can stand, and there may be enough Muslims and Arabs willing to die themselves to do that.

  52. Very upset at this news. It is an obvious escalation by the Israeli led USA and puppet Trump. They have some excellent forms of blackmail going on Trump. He walked into this mess with his big ego; and they saw him coming and are making the best use of this stupid man.

    Our nation has already brought so much shame on itself for attacking the Middle East under Bush and Obomber. I still have a photo of a little Iraqi boy who was laying in a hospital bed with no legs or arms, just a head and torso left. He was a victim of USA Bombing (Shock & Awe) in 2003 Baghdad. He looks at the camera with a look I have never seen before.

    I wish all this will go away, but we all know it is about to get worse and all the Israelis need to get the American population onboard for a new fight is a major False Flag. So, be vigilant and careful. We have no idea where they will strike…and then blame Iran.

  53. To this day I remember Mr. Linh Dinh’s saying on Unz Review, to paraphrase; Trump is a shill, owned by the Jews/Israelis, on top of which they would never allow anyone who wouldn’t grovel before them to be president. He was obviously correct.

    Be that as it may. I want war. Only a war in which the paper tiger that is the US gets itself real bloody nose is there a possibility of ending Jew supremacist’s control of my county.

  54. @Lot

    The bully; Iran? You are full of shit.

  55. I normally agree with much of what Phil writes, and I have huge admiration for his work…but I just can’t see the attack on the convoy bringing the type of conflict that is feared (by all of us) and mentioned in the article.

    My feeling is that the killing of the Major General and the others will:

    1) be used as a very useful recruitment tool

    2) bring factional tension out into the open. Small scale (within Iranian agencies or between militias, etc.) power struggles will appear, perhaps even deadly ones.

    3) give confidence to groups that have wanted to break away from Iranian influence, such as Christian militia groups.

    4) be used by the Iranian dictator (Supreme Leader) to do some housekeeping. Soleimani, after all, was in his position for over 20 years!

    Just my feeling. And, I’ll pray for peace!

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  56. @Lot

    ‘…I’m not so sure. Sometimes the bully slinks away after getting popped in the nose…’

    I doubt that: but who do you figure is going to pop us in the nose, and how?

    Besides, Tel Aviv will happily fight to the last American. I’d say Iran’s only option is to hit ’em where it hurts: Israel.

    But can they hit hard enough?

  57. Sean says:

    Qasem Soleimani was the Iranian Trotsky, and I am sure he had rivals in the Iranian leadership that find his demise expedient. The man became a victim of his own publicity, and began to do things that as far as I can see made little sense from Iran’s point of view.

    A few days after John Bolton was sacked as Trump’s national security adviser, Soleimani humiliated the US by a blatantly Iranian attack on Saudi oil facilities, which Pompeo called an act of war. There has been some comment about Soleimani looking like Sean Connery, but:-

    In view of his last two major decisions, which were disastrous misjudgements (the other was shooting Baghdad Shiite demonstors, which infuriated even Iraqis sympathetic to Iran) I wonder if he was actually former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn’s co author Michael Ledeen in a silver toupee.

    • Replies: @Meimou
  58. @Charles Pewitt

    If you have any remaining scrap of decency then you will do the honourable thing and never comment again. That has to be the most inane comment I have ever read. You should write a few scripts for upcoming Hollywood blockbusters.

    • LOL: Paul C.
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Willem
    , @Bill Jones
  59. @geokat62

    Ignore him/her, geo. Don’t feed the trolls. Anyone who thinks PG is a neocon has severe mental deficiencies, or is paid to assert that. References to masturbatory traits gives you an indication as to which.

  60. @renfro

    Well then my theoretical assassination plan would work.

    I hope somebody tries it so that we know for sure. What could it hurt?

  61. @Gleimhart Mantooso

    I don’t think I suggested giving Trump a free pass. I was addressing the obvious tactics used to manipulate him, and the fact they’re working.

    Apologies if I read more into your post than you intended.

  62. @geokat62

    After the GW disaster, most decent Americans voted for the peace candidate

    Says the non-American, again presuming to lecture from Sydney or London or whatever dump where you reside. Speaks volumes that you would consider Zero to be the peace candidate. Smart Americans knew otherwise.

    Ron Paul was on the ballot in the 2008 general. I voted for him. If Giraldi worked with him during his primary run, why wouldn’t he vote for him in the general? Oh right (see previous laughable claim from foreigner about Zero being the “peace candidate”).

    Also, I was against the Libya intervention in Feb. 2011. Giraldi was fine with it. That makes him more pro-intervention by definition. But yeah, wankers like you get sucked in with all the anti-Israel stuff, giving him a pass on everything else. “Giraldi’s trained seals” is how I put it.

  63. Anonymous[792] • Disclaimer says:
    @the grand wazoo

    >”lies dreamed up by Jewish dual citizens…who are really agents of Israel. I’m not using the term neocons any longer… [They] are just a large group of powerful dual citizen Jews”

    Duals.

    I like it!

    • Replies: @Eric135
  64. geokat62 says:
    @Bragadocious

    Smart Americans knew otherwise.

    Oh, so you consider yourself to be a smart American, eh? Well smart guy, take a look at my response to your second point, below:

    Ron Paul was on the ballot in the 2008 general. I voted for him. If Giraldi worked with him during his primary run, why wouldn’t he vote for him in the general? Oh right (see previous laughable claim from foreigner about Zero being the “peace candidate”).

    I’ll tell you why, wanker! Because Giraldi resides in Virginia:

    Ron Paul was on the November 2008 ballot for president in Louisiana and Montana. Those two states only accounted for 1.9% of the national presidential vote this year…

    Oh, and regarding your remark that Ron Paul was a presidential candidate in 2008, here’s how the folks at ballet-access org put it:

    Whether Ron Paul was a “candidate” for president in November 2008 depends on the definition of “candidate”. He did not ask to be put on the ballot.

    https://ballot-access.org/2008/12/19/ron-paul-2008-general-election-presidential-vote/

    Bozo!

    Also, I was against the Libya intervention in Feb. 2011. Giraldi was fine with it.

    Oh, he was fine with it? You’re full of shit! Giraldi’s non-interventionist bona fides are second to none.

    Turns out you’re pretty dumb for a smart American!

  65. El Dato says:

    Even though the U.S. military presence is as a guest of the Iraqi government, Washington went ahead with its attack even after the Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi said “no.”

    It’s like one of the AirBnB House parties for “rappers” where suddenly “shots ring out”.

    Seriously, the US is like Upper Volta with nukes (a description which might originate with Thatcher, Mitterand or Kissinger), gangsta amounts of paper money and Star of David bling.

    SAD!

  66. geokat62 says:

    AIPAC gaslighting The Dumb Goyim that the assassination was supposedly in America’s interests and not those of the Apartheid states’:

    • Replies: @Eric135
    , @Abbybwood
    , @KA
    , @dickr
  67. geokat62 says:

    A very revealing tweet:

    • LOL: Biff
  68. I am going to the one in the city today (https://www.codepink.org/sf_jan_4_ustroopsoutofiraq). Won’t you please join me?

    TODAY!, Many Cities Added: National Day of Action – U.S. Troops Out of Iraq!
    https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2020/01/04/today-many-cities-added-national-day-of-action-u-s-troops-out-of-iraq/

    On Saturday, January 4 CODEPINK, Veterans for Peace, United AntiWar Coalition (UNAC), ANSWER Coalition, World Beyond War, Popular Resistance and Voices for Creative Nonviolence are calling on people from around the United States to organize local demonstrations to demand: NO MORE U.S. TROOPS TO IRAQ OR THE MIDDLE EAST! U.S. OUT OF IRAQ NOW! and NO WAR/NO SANCTIONS ON IRAN!

    In response to the massive protests in Iraq following the latest U.S. aerial assault that killed scores of Iraqis, Donald Trump has ordered 750 more U.S. troops to the Middle East and potentially 3,000 more. This is in addition to the 5,200 U.S. troops already stationed in Iraq. Every U.S. president over the last 28 years has ordered the bombing of Iraq. The decision by Donald Trump and the Pentagon to launch new air assaults against Iraqis in the past week ignited nationwide resistance by Iraqis who want to reclaim their full sovereignty and do not want Iraq to be used in a U.S. war on Iran.

    More than a million Iraqis have died during the past 28 years as a consequence of U.S. occupation, bombings and sanctions. Tens of thousands of U.S. troops have either been killed or suffered life-changing wounds. The U.S. government has spent more than $3 trillion dollars in the on-going occupation and bombing of this oil-rich country. Instead of taking the United States out of this endless war, Trump is building up U.S. forces in the region and threatening a war with Iran.

    Initiators for this call include CODEPINK, Popular Resistance, Veterans For Peace, ANSWER Coalition, World Beyond War, Voices for Creative Nonviolence, and many other antiwar and peace organizations.

    Rallies will take place on Saturday, January 4 in the following cities.

    [MORE]

    Go to our Global Activist Toolkit to Grab Our Posters to Bring With You

    Washington D.C.
    The White House – Washington D.C.12noon at the White House

    Alabama
    Birmingham, Alabama 5pm at Five Points South

    Arizona
    Phoenix, AZ 12noon at 24th St. and Camelback

    California
    Los Angeles, CA 1pm at Pershing Square
    Monterey, CA
    San Francisco, CA12noon at Powell and Market
    San Jose, CA 3pm at San Jose City Hall
    Santa Monica, CA2pm at Santa Monica Promande

    Colorado
    Boulder, CO 11am at Broadway and Canyon
    Denver, CO 2pm at Colorado State Capital Building

    Connecticut
    New Haven, CT3pm Sunday, January 5th at Church and Chapel St.

    Florida
    Miami, FL1pm Torch of Friendship, 301 Biscayne Blvd, Miami, FL 33032
    Gainesville, FL

    Georgia
    Atlanta, GA3pm at Little Five Points

    Illinois
    Chicago, IL 12noon at Trump Tower

    Indiana
    Fort Wayne, IN2pm at Allen County Courthouse Green

    Kansas
    Topeka, KS 11am at the Topeka Capital Building

    Maine
    Portland, Maine 12pm at Congress Square Park

    Massachusetts
    Arlington, MA11am at Broadway Plaza, Mass. Ave. and Medford St
    Northampton, MA11amin front of the Courthouse on Main St

    Minnesota
    Minneappolis, MN1pm at Mayday Plaza

    Missouri
    Kansas City, Missouri 3pm at Plaza Fountains
    St. Louis, MO 12noon at the Missouri First Congressional District Building

    New Mexico
    Albuquerque, NM2pm at Kirtland Airforce Base, San Mateo and Gibson Blvd
    Taos, NM 12noon at World Cup

    New York
    Buffalo, NY 12PM at Bidwell Parkway
    Ithaca, NY 10am at Corner of Clinton and Meadow Streets by CVS
    New York City, NY11am at Time Square

    North Carolina
    Durham, NC 11am at the corner of Gregson St and Main St
    Fayetteville, NC 2pm at Market House
    Raleigh, NC 12noon at North Carolina State Capitol

    Ohio
    Columbus, OH 12noon at North High St. & East North Broadway
    Cleveland, OH 12noon at Market Square

    Oregon
    Corvallis, OR
    Eugene, OR 1pm at Wayne Morse Free Speech Plaza
    Portland, OR 5pm at Terry Shrunk Plaza

    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma City2:30-3:30 PM

    Pennsylvania
    Lancaster, PA12noon at Lancaster County Prison
    Philadelphia, PA12noon at Philadelphia City Hall
    Pittsburgh, PA 12noon at Forbes Ave
    State College, PA12noon at Allen St. Gates

    Tennessee
    Nashville, TN 12PM at the State Capitol Building

    Texas
    Austin, TX 11am at Texas State Capitol
    Dallas, TX 3pm at Dealey Plaza
    El Paso, TX12noon Friday, January 3rd at the U.S. Federal Courthouse

    Vermont
    Burlington, VT 12noon at the Federal Building

    Washington
    Seattle, WA2pm at Victor Steinbrueck Park
    Spokane, WA 12noon at Division and Wellesley
    Tacoma, WA

    Wisconsin
    Madison, WI12noon at the state capitol
    Milwaukee, WI 12noon at 27th St. and Oklahoma
    Stevens Point, WI 12noon at Courthouse Stevens Point

  69. This is out of control!

    Iraq Reports US Airstrike Hit Convoy of Medics North of Baghdad

    Strike killed six, wounded three, destroyed two medical vans

    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/01/03/iraq-reports-us-airstrike-hit-convoy-of-medics-north-of-baghdad/

    With Iraq and the region still reeling after Thursday night’s US drone strike on the Baghdad International Airport, an attack which killed Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani as well as top members of Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Units (PMU), a new US strike was reported Friday night.

    Iraqi state media identified the new attack as another US airstrike, near the Taji stadium north of Baghdad. The attack hit a convoy of medics, destroying two medical vans, and killing at least six people, also identified as medical personnel.

    Reports suggest that the attack was intended to target a commander within the PMU, and while they declined to say who they thought the US was trying to kill, Twitter reports after the strike initially claimed Ahl al-Haq leader Qais al-Khazali had been killed. This has since been denied, and it appears no PMU commanders were even present in the convoy.

    US officials have yet to comment on the Friday attack, and it is likely to be difficult for them to explain attacking a medical convoy. After claiming the Thursday strike was meant to “stop a war,” Trump will struggle to argue bombing medical vans as comparably justifiable.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @renfro
  70. Anon[230] • Disclaimer says:

    Has the MEK Re-Entered Its Military-Terrorist Phase?

    https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/iran/3779-mek-re-entered-its-military-terrorist-phase.html

    […is the woman on this picture a real symbol of feminism and women liberation? If so she’s completely discrediting feminism. Hillary as well… In addition to their guns they should both wear gladiator sandals, which would made them look even sexier and would for sure induce the revolutions they so badly want.]

    Also:

    BY REZA ALGHURABI

    – Why Did Saudis Decide to Expand Their Relations with Albania?

    – Behind the Scenses of Tirana’s Recent Allegation against Tehran

    – Terrorism and Corruption: Albania’s Issues with EU Accession

    https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/iran/3779-mek-re-entered-its-military-terrorist-phase.html

  71. geokat62 says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    This is out of control!

    I took Roger Stone at his word when he revealed:

    “I’m HARDCORE Zionist and so is president Trump!”

    We’re all going to see just how HARDCORE Zionist Trumpstein really is!

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  72. KenH says:

    Much as been made about Soleimani’s alleged responsibility for the deaths of 600 American servicemen but what people forget is that Iranian military personnel would be legitimate targets if they invaded Mexico or Canada. That 600 figure is probably a drop in the bucket compared to the number of people Trump has killed with his unprecedented number of drone strikes since taking office.

    Whatever the case Donald Trump is indeed a pathological liar and monumental fraud and it seems that the vast majority of his deplorables (I’m an ex-deplorable) have tripled down on their love and support of him despite his broken promise of ending “these stupid wars”.

  73. ra says:

    It is indeed a foolhardy move. I’ve taken a lot of grief for supporting Trump while always pointing out his ways of frustrating and stringing the neo-cons along. My one desperate and perhaps foolish hope is that being foiled in trying to extricate us from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, he has agreed to this act(whether post or pre, and I suspect post) to allow them(the neo-cons and MIC) enough rope to hang themselves. The Iraqi parliament will certainly vote to have us leave. If my desperate hope is true, we will do so. If not, at least it hastens the end of our imperial age, which I would greatly welcome, at best without nuclear war.

    • Agree: Eric135
    • Replies: @York
  74. Regional report from EJ Magnier:

    https://ejmagnier.com/2020/01/04/what-comes-next-after-the-us-assassination-of-qassem-soleimani-the-options/

    WHAT COMES NEXT AFTER THE US ASSASSINATION OF QASSEM SOLEIMANI? THE OPTIONS.

    The US did not plan to kill the vice commander of the Iraqi Hashd al-Shaabi brigade Abu Mahdi al-Muhandes when it assassinated Iranian Brigadier General Qassem Soleimani on Thursday at 11:00 PM local time at Baghdad airport. Usually, when Soleimani was arriving in Baghdad, security commander Abu Zeinab al-Lami, a deputy officer to al Muhandes, would have welcomed him. This time, al-Lami was outside Iraq and al-Muhandes replaced him. The US plan was to assassinate an Iranian General on Iraqi soil, not to kill a high-ranking Iraqi officer. By killing al-Muhandes, the US violated its treaty obligation to respect the sovereignty of Iraq and to limit its activity to training and offering intelligence to fight the “Islamic State”, ISIS. It has also violated its commitment to refrain from overflying Iraq without permission of the Iraqi authorities.

    Wow! Own goal! Are “evil” and “incompetent” synonymous?

  75. @geokat62

    This is one is for you, geo, reporting from Athens:

    • Replies: @geokat62
  76. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:

    Donald Trump rode to victory in 2016 on a promise to end the useless wars in the Middle East, but he has now demonstrated very clearly that he is a liar.

    True, and this mistake puts him firmly in the wastebasket where all other liar-politicians reside.

    The shmuck was elected to stop the unnecessary, and criminal, external wars for the Jews and protect the US from the internal Jewish war – through unchecked immigration – on the US citizens.

    He’s a massive failure on both counts.

  77. It’s possible to overdo the focus on the personal here. سپاه has a very deep bench and it’s not subject to decapitation. Soleimani’s murder will have no more effect on the command structure than Pompeo’s murder would: removing the primus inter pares of a corps of brilliant strategists smarts a bit; and if the US lost Pompeo, one of many delusional religious fanatics with community-college level training from a laughingstock military academy, So what?

    This murder is first and foremost an insult, of course. The CIA regime is much more of an honor culture than Iran because these days the DO is stuffed with lumpen redneck jarheads. But organizational aspects worldwide will determine the outcome.

    Iran’s response will certainly include legal redress, and the honor component of the US wrongful act can be quite adequately handled in state responsibility of satisfaction for internationally wrongful acts. The last couple times CIA faced Iran in the Hague (Oil Platforms and Aerial Incident,) Iran wiped the floor with the third-rate DoS shysters. And for the first time the US faces Iran without their British dancing boys on the bench – Britain got kicked off the ICJ bench for arbitrary actions of its own. So that’s gonna cost ya, $$$! The ICC can weigh in propria motu, and should do. Absent efficacious criminal sanctions, Iran ally China has shown that you can take international criminal law into your hands quite effectively (ask William Bennett and his wifey!) Iran’s status in the SCO is an additional degree of freedom. If Russia chooses to get involved, it can use its superior missile technology to control escalation at every level. This is the perfect opportunity for its doctrine of coercion to peace.

    Since this is so self-evidently disastrous for the US, why would the US civil/military command structure present this as an option? CIA doesn’t like Trump – he tweaked them with a feint at ARCA compliance, and mocked their contempt for the national interest in a speech at Langley. Trump’s been more insubordinate than any presidential figurehead since Nixon. So why not let him hold the bag for a crime big as the one Nixon got stuck with? CIA made Nixon their helpless patsy for their bombing of neutral Cambodia at great risk of general nuclear war. They purged him with a bill of impeachment that briefly included that crime. CIA never tries anything new, so now they’ll make Trump their helpless patsy for murder at great risk of general nuclear war. The absurd existing bill of impeachment can easily incorporate murder as an inchoate crime, Trump’s common plan and conspiracy for war, Nuremberg count 1. What does CIA get out of that? By personalizing aggression, CIA gets off the hook.

    With the family jewels and inside knowledge of the JFK coup, Nixon graymailed CIA for a pardon. They won’t let Trump get away like that. The current status of international criminal law requires that heads must roll. Just like Charles Taylor got put away for Israeli state crimes against peace, the equally disposable Donald Trump will hold the bag for grave CIA crimes.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  78. Eric135 says:
    @Anonymous

    Another possibility is calling neo-cons what they really are: Israel Firsters.

  79. Eric135 says:
    @geokat62

    If Soleimani was such as bad guy, why didn’t we assassinate him a long time ago?

    Trump even said it should have happened long ago. So why didn’t he do it before?

    Hurr durr, American public, maybe you should put on your thinking cap for once! LOL.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Old and grumpy
  80. geokat62 says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    This is one is for you, geo…

    Thanks, C&D. I’m very familiar with the two Alexes of the Duran Report. While I think they provide very objective reporting on world events, they are also very reluctant to touch the third rail, the 800 lb gorilla in the room.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  81. geokat62 says:

    Trump: “We Will Not Rest Until Anti-Semitism Is Destroyed!

    Description:

    “Everyone here today stands in unwavering solidarity with our Jewish brothers and sisters.

    “We will not rest until the horrible and vile ideology of antiSemitism has been defeated and destroyed.”

    • Replies: @anon
  82. When you kill someone, don’t let them become a martyr, because then their death will be more troublesome than their life.

    View this post on Instagram

    #سلیمانی_آسمانی شد

    A post shared by Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei (@khamenei_ir) on

  83. geokat62 says:

    To those who assured us there would be no war with Iran:

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  84. geokat62 says:

    Breaking news!

    Trump warns Iran: US has targeted ’52 Iranian sites’ and will ‘hit very fast and very hard’ if needed

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-trump-warns-iran-we-have-targeted-52-iranian-sites

    Rumour has it that 52 sites were chosen so that it corresponded to the number of major Jewish-American organizations in America, lol!

    https://petras.lahaine.org/the-fifty-two-major-jewish-american/

    • Replies: @Z-man
  85. lavoisier says: • Website
    @geokat62

    Thanks, C&D. I’m very familiar with the two Alexes of the Duran Report. While I think they provide very objective reporting on world events, they are also very reluctant to touch the third rail, the 800 lb gorilla in the room.

    Yes, it is far too easy and fashionable to pin it all on the “deep state” without ever naming the Jew.

  86. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:

    Wow! The idiot-in-chief just threatened Iran with bombing their cultural targets.

    “Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!”

    What a sad (((golem))) he’s turned out to be.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/no-more-threats-trump-warns-iran-52-targets-will-be-hit-very-fast-hard

  87. @geokat62

    To those who assured us there would be no war with Iran:

    I am one of those that did – and I stand by that assertion. Technically, we just declared war on Iran, however, I expect there to be thousands of skirmishes, but nothing the equivalent of the Iraq invasion.

    At the risk of eating crow…

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  88. Dannyboy says:

    If you listen to what Donald Trump said when he was campaigning, you will hear what the majority of the American people want. Improved relations with Russia, exit from pointless Middle East conflicts, greatly reduced immigration and a wall on the Southwest border, money spent on the crumbling US infrastructure… etc…etc

    Unfortunately, what the majority of the American people want matters very little if at all. It’s pretty much the same everywhere “democracy” and “democratic principles” reign.

    It’s a joke. A sick fucking game.

    I don’t believe Trump is a bad man. I believe he truly loves this country and it’s people. But he has surrounded himself with and trusted the wrong people from the beginning.

    It pains me to say it, but NOTHING will change in this once great nation until there is either collapse and/or revolution. The Deep State and it’s (((Ruling Elite))) will then move on to another host.

  89. @the grand wazoo

    And those 25 nuclear bombs are hidden in….wait for it…..Holocaust Museums! Yes, paid for by the American taxpayer.

    Who said Jews don’t have a sense of humor?

  90. @Oops His Bad

    Your first and only comment so far and quite a debut. Is this just a hit and run or shall we be hearing more from you in the future?

    • Agree: Erebus
  91. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    f’ing bastards ….. who’s commanding all these strikes?
    This is just like the kind of ‘hit anything’ strikes Israel does on Syria.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  92. I find it hard to believe that with the history of so many recent false flag operations that everyone is just assuming what is being presented is actually what happened. I personally think it all is a little too convenient at this point in time. Israel has wanted a war with Iran almost forever. While Netanyahu is having a bromance with Donald Trump and getting every single thing he wants to the point of changing a make America great again to make Israel great again, I find the whole thing extremely suspicious. It just seems like another War being started for the benefit of Israel, business as usual.

  93. MEexpert says:
    @A123

    Iranian Kataib Hezbollah is present in Iraq over the objections of many Arab citizens (mostly Shia) who resent Persian interference.

    So many lies in just one sentence. As always, you spread misinformation with lot of mumbo jumbo. There is no such thing as Iranian Kataib Hezbollah. Kataib Hezbullah consist of Iraqi volunteers. They may have been trained by Iran but they are still Iraqis.

    You keep calling Khamenei a sociopath. The real sociopath is your hero Netanyahu.

    You are one of the group of Zionist agents who are just waiting with canned comments for the articles to appear. You are so predictable.

    And please take that symbol off. By posting it does not make you a peace lover. You are nothing but a war monger.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  94. Nosey 95, these poor bastards you will always have with you.

  95. Anon[829] • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent complementary info. by Mrs. Sibel Edmonds:

    Target Iran” Operations on Pause- Here’s Why

    War on the Horizon? Iran’s Strategic Strengths & Weaknesses:

    CIA – Al-Qaeda Operations Center in Iran’s Backyard Exposed:

    See also

    Developing- Operation Iran: The Pentagon is Deploying Troops to Saudi Arabia
    (Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Rockwell Collins, L3 Engilitycorp mercenaries)
    By C. Sorensen:

    https://www.newsbud.com/2019/07/27/developing-operation-iran-the-pentagon-is-deploying-troops-to-saudi-arabia/

    • Thanks: Miro23
  96. @renfro

    f’ing bastards ….. who’s commanding all these strikes?

    Well, at least indirectly, according to Pepe Escobar, it is the usual suspects, Israel/deep state, with a compliant US.

    President Donald Trump may have issued the order. The U.S. Deep State may have ordered him to issue the order. Or the usual suspects may have ordered them all.

    According to my best Southwest Asia intel sources, “Israel gave the U.S. the coordinates for the assassination of Qassem Soleimani as they wanted to avoid the repercussions of taking the assassination upon themselves.”

    https://consortiumnews.com/2020/01/03/pepe-escobar-us-kick-starts-the-raging-20s-by-declaring-war-on-iran/

    A leopard can’t change its spots, and we can’t resist being manipulated by Israel for 30 shekels.

    • Replies: @renfro
  97. York says:
    @A123

    Obviously a (((Fellow American))). Remember the Liberty, Hymie. Still trying to destabilize the ME with your golem. Maybe this time Bibi bit off more than he can chew. The cost of human life and suffering is no doubt immaterial for a politician desperate to stay in power.. and out of prison. Once again the Jewish lobby is causing an uproar. Only three things are certain; death, taxes and Israel getting the US into Middle Eastern wars

  98. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEexpert

    “A123” is on my “Hasbara shills” list. Well spotted.

  99. How does the US justify carrying out assassinations within the territory of a friendly power without even obtaining the consent of that power? Don’t we at least pretend to respect Iraq’s sovereignty?

  100. York says:
    @ra

    And backing Trump has what purpose? Would he pay your rent if you were laid off? Then he is just a picture on your wall. Just like jock sniffers idolize apeletes, and masturbaters luvs their porn performers, political groupies actually imagine that their favorite political crush gives a shit about them. If one isn’t a multimillionaire, then they matter not at all to the political class. Have to bring something to the party other than bootlicking. There are plenty of those in higher places than a broke ass
    fan. Meanwhile grow the f**k up. Trump isn’t your friend. Unless you’re name is Adelson or Netanyahu anyway

    • Replies: @ra
  101. Another striking aspect of all this is that while I suspect doubts about this are very widespread among the actual people, the mainstream media seem to be all but unanimous in their approval.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  102. Trump is threatening to attack 52 Iranian cultural sites. He doesn’t seem to care that many of these are world heritage sites and it is a war crime to destroy them.

  103. Paul C. says:
    @Colin Wright

    Not only supporting it but selling it. Because that’s their job.

  104. Paul C. says:
    @Colin Wright

    Does Israel give a whit about Iraq? That’s the answer.

  105. @Cloak And Dagger

    • Replies: @SC Rebel
  106. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Perhaps if Russia gave one of these missile to Iran peace would breakout…..lol.

    Hypersonic Missiles Are a Game Changer
    No existing defenses can stop such weapons — which is why everyone wants them.

    Last week, President Vladimir Putin of Russia announced the deployment of the Avangard, among the first in a new class of missiles capable of reaching hypersonic velocity — something no missile can currently achieve, aside from an ICBM during reentry
    Such weapons have long been an object of desire by Russian, Chinese and American military leaders, for obvious reasons: Launched from any of these countries, they could reach any other within minutes. No existing defenses, in the United States or elsewhere, can intercept a missile that can move so fast while maneuvering unpredictably.
    Whether or not the Avangard can do what Mr. Putin says, the United States is rushing to match it. We could soon find ourselves in a new arms race as deadly as the Cold War — and at a time when the world’s arms control efforts look like relics of an inscrutable past and the effort to renew the most important of them, a new START agreement, is foundering

    https://quincyinst.org/2020/01/02/hypersonic-missiles-are-a-game-changer/

    • Replies: @The Scalpel
    , @The Scalpel
  107. Giraldi seldom comes up with any new facts to shed light on a situation. He just runs through the same anti-neocon boilerplate. I agree with his boilerplate, but it’s not enough to justify reading his articles.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @ivan
  108. Biff says:
    @the grand wazoo

    I’m not using the term neocons any longer, as the term is a lie, a mask. They are just a large group of powerful dual citizen Jews many descended from Trotskyites that immigrated from Russia in the 1930s.

    I like it – very well put.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  109. Biff says:
    @Colin Wright

    Don’t we at least pretend to respect Iraq’s sovereignty?

    Bwaah!! Like Washington pretends to respect it’s own citizens sovereignty. Not!

  110. @A123

    You’re talking nonsense all the time! You know what? You should follow your name, say 1-2-3 and jump off of a high rise😹

    • Troll: Willem
  111. annamaria says:
    @Bragadocious

    Hey, Israeli hasbara, why didn’t you read the above article carefully?

    The blood of the Americans, Iranians and Iraqis who will die in the next few weeks is clearly on Donald Trump’s hands as this war was never inevitable and served no U.S. national interest.

    One more time for you: this war [with Iran] serves no U.S. national interests. The only “benefiting” party is the Jewish State, the bloody theocracy of obnoxious supremacists known for their cowardice and deception. The Epstein nation of Israel.

    American veterans kill themselves every day, every hour. None of the dead veterans is Jewish.

    Here is how the usual schema works: First, the zionist scum finds kindred spirits among the locals; see Cheney the Traitor, greedy Clintons, and the cowardly US brass thirsty for money and comforts (exhibit one, Donny Rumsfeld). Second, the zionist scum arranges mass media by putting the eager presstitutes on key positions in the previously honorable papers and journals (exhibit one, The New Yorker). And voila, the war profiteers unite with Israel firsters and get free hands to plunder whatever country they want to plunder. On the American citizenry dime & limb.

    It does not take much effort to recognize the extraordinary difference between the piggish and thoroughly corrupt Bibi and the noble and valiant Soleimani.

    Unfortunately, the US is ruled by Bibi et al.

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @ivegotrythm
  112. @A123

    Really? How stupid can one get? Sir, it would behove all of us to read and understand history. Noone likes the Ayatollahs but the only reason they are ruling Iran is because of the USA. And everyone has the right to defend themselves – including the Iranians. Just look at our behaviour and compare it to a bully. No difference at all!!
    Unfortunately, it is very well established in the world that USA has degenerated from being a good guy to a bully, assassin and a terrorist. We shall reap the whirlwind and the hurricane…. unfortunately it will be the common person who suffers…always.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  113. @anon

    Not sure why so many commenters engage hasbara clowns like A123. Why engage people who aren’t debating in good faith?

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    , @Herald
  114. Z-man says:
    @geokat62

    Rumour has it that 52 sites were chosen so that it corresponded to the number of major Jewish-American organizations in America, lol!

    I ‘second’ that LOL!!!
    52 is for the fifty two embassy hostages from 1979. And he said he’s going to hit cultural sites in that 52 number. So you museum curators in Tehran ‘watch out!’

    On a serious note, I consider myself a patriotic American but I just can’t root for my country in this regard. Honestly it makes me feel bad but following the truth does not always make you feel good. But it’s the right thing to do.
    Iran has been ‘set up’ since Donald got out of the nuclear deal. Tucker Carlson says Iran has been the target for decades. I can just hope that the kinetic action is brief, loss of American and Iranian life small and that, as Giraldi predicts, America will finally get out of there, to the frustration of the Zionists.
    But then we have the aforementioned Zionists and their Samson option… it never ends. Until Israel ends…

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  115. @Eric135

    Interesting line of thought.

    Please remind me again of why the US has not shot down a civilian Persian airliner in decades?

    Seems the Persians did not seek revenge back then either?

    My guess: we will not see another Persian General murdered in decades. Nor will we see any act of revenge.

  116. Paul C. says:
    @jack daniels

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  117. @El Dato

    Upper Volta with nukes was Helmut Schmidt’s dscription of the Soviet Union.

  118. TKK says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Having a different policy opinion or contrasting read on a political issue than yours is spam?

    Are you Alyssa Milano? Jim Carrey? Micheal Moore?

    Go post on StormFront.

    If you and your ilk don’t migrate there, Unz will soon be on synonymous with MySpace ( obsolete)

    Unz himself is already considered a joke due to his blatant solidarity & sympathy with America’s enemies and his “acres”of anti- Israel propaganda.

    But wait!!! He gives out…… gold stars to the most anti American/Israeli posters! It’s hilarious.

    I get gold stars too- its called cash from working.

  119. renfro says:

    Anti Iran war protest going on in cities , at WH, at Trump Hotels etc..
    “The American people have had enough with U.S. wars and are rising up to demand peace with Iran!” tweeted CodePink, an anti-war group that helped organize the nationwide demonstrations.

    I have found the guy to star in my assassination movie…. an Iraq war vet you need to hear:

  120. TKK says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    From all indications, the Iranian general was a revered man inside and outside Iran.

    The arrogant ignorance on this site tweeters between alarming and comedic.

    The rank and file MUST gnash their teeth and wail over this terrorist’s death. There are more Secret Police in Iran than the Stasi had. If they don’t show grief, their family members or they will pay the price.

    Do you know any Persians? They detest living under a brutal theocracy. They don’t care about Soleimani. They care about their children, jobs and being happy.

    They act the fool in the street to mourn his death because it is expected, it’s a way to let off steam and it’s social.

  121. Russ says:
    @Gleimhart Mantooso

    Now would be the perfect time for the Mossad to do its false flag shtick. They wouldn’t even have to try very hard to pin it on Iran. I’ll bet that when the news came out that the Iranian guy had been killed, every neocon on the planet popped a boner that will last for days. Michael Ledeen is probably mazel tov-ing his ass off.

    Michael “FASTER PLEASE!” Ledeen? Yes, I don’t doubt. And as regards a Mossad false flag: Giraldi writes that the Iraqi PM will inevitably “ask American forces to leave.” THAT should be the greenest of green lights for Trump to withdraw them from that bottomless hellhole … except … who wants them there forevermore?

    I don’t care about the dead Muslim who got killed, since that’s the only kind of “good Muslim” you’re ever going to find, but I would still prefer for the U.S. to get out of the Middle East altogether. Let those two warring anti-Christ peoples kill each other to their hearts’ content.

    Verily. Alas, look for Congress now to reauthorize those thoroughly corrupt FISA courts, so that honorable American heroes and patriots such as Gums Page and Peter Strzok can thwart evil Iran terrorists before they perpetrate their dastardly acts against innocent Americans. Now, remind me of the nationalities of those who committed the 9/11/2001 atrocities again?

    All glory, praise, and honor to Our Lord Jesus Christ — may He and St Michael ever watch over those of us redeemed by Him.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  122. @vespasian

    Qaani is a Muslim name. Not likely Jewish.

    Times of Israel says Qaani was Soleimani’s deputy.

    Khamenei appointed / anointed Qaani to step into Soleimani’s place. Why would Khamenei do this if he wanted to eradicate Soleimani’s style?

    Khamenei echoes Achmadinejad’s call that “zionism will disappear from the pages of history.” Not a Jewish sentiment.

    Pahlavi broke down the ghettoes and hired a lot of Jews, but there is no indication that Pahlavi was Jewish. His physiognomy is so typically Persian he’s practically a caricature of the breed.

    in other words, you’re full of crap.

    Leave propagandistic mimetics to the cretins who know how to do it.

    • Replies: @Vespasian
  123. Russ says:
    @the grand wazoo

    There’s a rumor that part of Israel’s Samson option includes nuclear bombs hidden in 25 American cities. Veterans Today has mentioned it several times. Is it true? Maybe. Maybe someone should find out.

    It would end Democrat prattle about presidential elections by popular vote in lieu of electoral college.

  124. @Lot

    Israel and A123 has a dozen Iranian responses prepared and ready to go.

  125. Giraldi is maybe little bit somber here, so I do have to say no.
    Irani thinkers know that the affair is just a thick worm on the hook.
    They will do what they did before consolidate She_ite power in the Levant to end any cooperation of states with the great Satan there.

  126. Russ says:
    @geokat62

    A very revealing tweet:

    The quote is from a 24 Oct 2004 article “Jews, Israel and America” in the New York Times by Thomas L. Friedman. Friedman proceeds to criticize the Bush admin for inept communications in Iraq. One wonders which will be found first: the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or the real killers of Ron and Nicole by OJ Simpson.

  127. @vespasian

    Jews, Shiites, Protestants, Communists are very hard for outsiders to tell apart and are all the same on the inside.

  128. anon[353] • Disclaimer says:

    Once the US began seriously enforcing sanctions on Iranian oil exports, the US effectively declared war on Iran. Iran has done what it could, but its response has been limited.

    After you have already attempted and partially succeeded in wrecking a country’s economy, what does a drone strike add to the situation?

    The incident makes very little sense for the US, which is vulnerable in Iraq. Iran is still under severe economic siege, so not much has really changed there either.

    Everyone seems to want this to be a major inflection point, but why would Iran suddenly become stupid? Maybe Trump has changed, but he has resisted number of attempts to get him to sign on to military adventures.

  129. MEexpert says:

    News flash: Pence says Suleimani aided the 9/11 highjackers.

    Let us see what else can we accuse him of masterminding.
    1. Gulf of Tonkin incident
    2. Bombing of Laos
    3. Sabotaging the space shuttle
    4. JFK Assassination
    5. And yes, of course, starting the American Civil War.

    This guy is nuts and this is what we will get as a result of Trump’s impeachment.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  130. anon[846] • Disclaimer says:
    @GogMagoggian

    never comment again

    Hello fellow White person.

  131. @Bragadocious

    It happened and it may happen again.

    • Replies: @anon
  132. Meimou says:
    @Eric135

    The public is too dumb to recognize that the Jews control America, much less connect our pointless wars for Israel to that Jewish control.

    The pubic knows, it’s a matter of openly expressing those views.

    We know and things are simmering.

  133. Willem says:
    @GogMagoggian

    He is just pointing out possibilities. And he may be right. Didn’t you notice oil prices went up after this event?

    The idea that this whole event is used as a stage to get something done is not far sought at all. Question is, what is something?

    But perhaps you have better information? – Enlighten us.

  134. Meimou says:
    @Sean

    A few days after John Bolton was sacked as Trump’s national security adviser, Soleimani humiliated the US by a blatantly Iranian attack on Saudi oil facilities, which Pompeo called an act of war.

    Shill better. You people say this over and over, but don’t give a logical reason we should believe it, and why even give us Pompeo’s opinion?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Sean
  135. The Israeli Mossad was the instigator, and the Zionist stooge, President Donald Trump, pulled the trigger.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/03/after-mossad-targeted-soleimani-trump-pulled-the-trigger/
    http://between-the-lines-ludwig-watzal.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-reckless-killing-of-qasem-soleimani.html

    American blood will be spent on the most reckless regime in the Middle East: Israel. How stupid can an American President be to support such a system?

  136. Tom Welsh says:
    @gandzakan

    I suspect (s)he is sitting in front of a computer waiting to be triggered into typing by any politically controversial event.

    The “first post” is a dead giveaway.

  137. Ghali says:

    The murder of General Qasem Soleimani shows that, nothing on this scale of U.S. violence, criminality and violation of international law has been seen before, not even in Nazi Germany. The assassination of two well-known leaders is an act of Terrorism. It was a cowardice act, because the two leaders were travelling in public. What the US regime gained from this premeditated murder?

    As I stated in several articles, we live under a brutal form of Fascism that has no equivalent in human history. There are no longer the rules of law and civilised norms. It is a barbaric, lawless, rogue, terrorising and distinctly global AngloZionist Fascism.

    • Replies: @Iris
  138. Sean says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    COME on, we are waiting for you. We are the real men on the scene, as far as you are concerned. You know that a war would mean the loss of all your capabilities. You may start the war, but we will be the ones to determine its end,” Qassem Soleimani said in a fiery July 2018 speech directed at Trump

    Not exactly taking the heat out of the situation in which Iran is confronting the world’s most powerful country. A good state has to know its limitations, as Mearsheimer says.

    He had flown into to town to attend the funerals of the 26 Iraqi militiamen that we Americans had killed earlier in the week!

    Most interesting. I wonder if those militiamen were maybe killed in the expectation that he would fly in to attend the funeral.

  139. Miggle says:
    @FieryJason

    Really? How stupid can one get? Sir, it would behove all of us to read and understand history. Noone likes the Ayatollahs but the only reason they are ruling Iran is because of the USA. And everyone has the right to defend themselves – including the Iranians. Just look at our behaviour and compare it to a bully. No difference at all!!
    Unfortunately, it is very well established in the world that USA has degenerated from being a good guy to a bully, assassin and a terrorist. We shall reap the whirlwind and the hurricane…. unfortunately it will be the common person who suffers…always.

    True that the only reason the Ayatollahs are ruling Iran is because of the USA’s hatred of democracy. Though the bull in the china shop grunts about democracy all the time it really hates democracy. Better to install a single dictator who will take orders, rather than having to bribe every elected member of a parliament and gamble that that will work.

    Degenerated… okay. A frightful country of gangster rule, a murderous thug as President, giant levels or homelessness, giant prices of medicines, giant levels of police killings etc. etc. and the economic hit-men who caused it to fall apart, crumbled infrastructure because privatized, want to … obey Israhell and pocket the worthless dollar, nothing else.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  140. @The Alarmist

    As an American who lives abroad, this is just a repainting of the target I’ve had on my back for decades, compliments of people who live behind big defence perimeters and are surrounded by teams of bodyguards.

    There used to be a simple escape-clause: pretend to be Canadian.

    As they’ve happily jumped on the War Bandwagon as well, that clause is now void.

    Damn!

  141. @Cloak And Dagger

    At the risk of eating crow…

    I’ve heard when you steam them for a few days, they become relatively eatable… :o]

    The US has 52 designated targets?

    This is what Iran can choose from:

    70,000 troops in the ME.

    Bahrain: Naval Support-Bahrain, Shaykh Isa Air Base and Khalifa Ibn Salman Port.

    Kuwait: Camp Buehring, Ali al-Salem Air Base, Camp Arifjan, Camp Patriot and Shaykh Ahmad al-Jabir Air Base.

    Oman: Port of Salalah and Port of Duqm.

    Qatar: Al Udeid Air Base and Camp As Sayliyah.

    Saudi Arabia: approximately 3,000 U.S. troops.

    Syria: bases + 800 troops [likely more].

    Turkey: Air bases in Izmir and Incirlik.

    UAE: Al Dhafra Air Base, Port of Jebel Ali and Fujairah Naval Base.

    Needless to say; these are disclosed locations.

    Might we safely assume the Iranians know a few undisclosed ones as well?

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Momus
    , @PeterMX
  142. jhon says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Iran give back by the Lord’s promissed land between the Eufraat & Tigris !
    Hosea5

  143. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    Anti semitism is badge of honor . Hard working honest and aware people wear it .

  144. Phillip. your “Strategic Culture” piece on
    “The Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act”
    seemed insightful but

    ” Respectable organizations including Human Rights Watch ” made me smile. Really?

    https://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/13/the-corruption-of-human-rights-watch/

    HRW has long been a tool of the West with occasional shows of impartiaity to buy credibility.
    An all too familiar pattern.

  145. @GogMagoggian

    “That has to be the most inane comment I have ever read. ”

    Thank you for confirming that you do not read your own comments before posting them.

  146. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Rita Katz !! The lady who used to upload the vile movies of beheading even before the Jihadists had uploaded . How come !!!
    Israel usually knows when war would start against Libya Syria Iraq and against Iran . How come!! Israel would claim that war will be soon. What gives!

    Rita ’s circle was playing same roles the cabal plays in agitating for wars .

  147. El Dato says:

    Contra Madame Condolezza’s (aka. “Condi”) affirmation in 2006 that we were witnessing “the birth pangs of a New Middle East” when Israel went all Warshaw Ghetto on various pieces of Palestine, these could be the REAL birth pangs of a New Middle East.

    Iran hoists blood-red ‘flag of revenge’ in holy city of Qom as thousands mourn Soleimani across the region

    The flag used in the ceremony is called the ‘Ya la-Tharat al-Husayn’, which dates back to the late 7th century. It was first raised after the Battle of Karbala in a call to avenge the death of Imam Husayn ibn Ali, which became one of the key events that led to the split between Shia and Sunni Islam. It has been reported that the red flag has never been unfurled atop the Jamkaran (a major holy site since the early Middle Ages) until now.

    You know shit is going down when it’s getting Game of Thrones out there.

    Memorandum by Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity to Trump (who probably can barely comprehend this): Doubling Down Into Yet Another ‘March of Folly,’ This Time on Iran

    Any bets on whether The Malevolent Beluga Pompeo returns from his Kazakhstan trip in a casket?

  148. El Dato says:
    @Meimou

    It’s also unimportant whether some bureaucrat of the US says that this and that happening far away is an “act of war” while engaging in acts of war like sanctions, targeted assassination of lower-rung people, support of “regime change” operations laying waste to whole regions, bombing of civvies in Yemen, bombing of selected targets all over the Middle East and on and on.

    Pompeo says == Goering protesting

    • Replies: @Wally
  149. Sean says:
    @Meimou

    The Embassy thing might not have been ordered by Soleimani, but the coup of of hitting Saudi oil facilities would surely have to be authorised by him in his capacity as commander of all Iranian paramilitary actions abroad. Yet this humiliation of the US forces in and around Saudi Arabia came days after Trump had sacked Iran’s greatest foe in the Administration, John Bolton.

    I think that if the interests of Iran was the objective paramount in Soleimani’s mind, the timing of the attack on Saudi oil facilities was a truly catastrophic failure of comprehension. Michael Ledeen (Iran’s biggest enemy in the US) must have been weeping tears of gratitude. And that was only one of Soleimanis great mistakes, if fame was not his real goal.

    PATRICK Cockburn noted pro Iranian militia leaders were pointing to ‘the failure of Trump to retaliate after the drone attack on Saudi oil facilities earlier in September that Washington had blamed on Iran’ and a sign that Trunp would avoid a war. Moreover:

    [T]here was a small demonstration in central Baghdad demanding jobs, public services and an end to corruption. The security forces and the pro-Iranian paramilitaries opened fire, killing and wounding many peaceful demonstrators. Though Qais al-Khazali later claimed that he and other Hashd leaders were trying to thwart a US-Israeli conspiracy, he had said nothing to me about it. It seemed likely that General Soleimani, wrongly suspected that the paltry demonstrations were a real threat and had ordered the pro-Iranian paramilitaries to open fire and put a plan for suppressing the demonstrations into operation …disastrous for Iranian influence in Iraq. […]

    General Soleimani died in the wake of his greatest failure and misjudgement

    Not only did he strengthen the hand of anti Iran opinion in the White House by making Trump look stupid, Soleimani’s Baghdad massacre of protesting Shiite Arabs was a wedge in the Iraqi– Iranian Shia alliance. Soleimani acted as if he was controlled by Ledeen, and yet also worked on the higher plane of US divide and rule grand strategy for the Middle East a la Kissinger.

  150. @Colin Wright

    “Don’t we at least pretend to respect Iraq’s sovereignty. ”

    Oh, please, dude. Respecting another country’s sovereignty? That is so-o-o 2015.

  151. niceland says:

    I sense desperation from Washington.
    What has been accomplished in the middle-east since the ‘war on terror’ began?

    Pick any goal, real or not and evaluate the success from the beginning of the century:
    Terrorism down?
    Israel safer?
    Better access to oil and gas for U.S. companies?
    Democracy on the rise?
    Stronger strategic position in the region?
    Russia and China kept at bay?
    Trade opportunities?
    Status of the dollar?
    Relations to allies in Europe and elsewhere?

    All I see is negatives, perhaps someone can enlighten me?

    Is it getting better or worse, is time on the U.S. side in this struggle? I can’t see it. If I was running this show I would be desperate too. And perhaps for the people actually running the show, the biggest problem is how to exit the stage and guard Israel at the same time.

  152. Abbybwood says:
    @geokat62

    If Israel has over 500 nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them (this according to former President Jimmy Carter), AND Israel has refused ALL inspections by the IAEA , then this is a legitimate threat to Iran.

    The world should see that Iran has a right to defend itself with nuclear weapons.

    This is grade school easy to get.

  153. chris says:

    The Pentagon and White House have been insisting that Iran was behind an alleged Kata’ib Hezbollah attack on a U.S. installation that then triggered a strike by Washington on claimed militia targets in Syria and also inside Iraq.

    But clearly this attack was much longer in the planning because of the prisoner exchange between the US and Iran on December 12th (https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-hopes-prisoner-exchange-will-lead-broader-discussion-iran). Obviously, that exchange took place in order not to leave any potential hostages in Iran when the escalation was triggered. All the excuses for the assassination were later tailored to fit the story as it developed.

    Also, there is the State Department and Pompeo’s own quote which purports that the attacks were not in retaliation for something but in order to forestall future attacks (as if this could ever be justifiable).

    What this indicates to me, is that, contrary to the peddled story, a major escalation was planned, which started with a prisoner exchange, the next step was adopting the Israeli strategy of using completely disproportionate responses in order to trigger some ever increasing responses from the Iranians. Stage 1: One rocket attack (probably staged by US-Israeli secret services); response: 23 soldiers killed by US. Stage 2: embassy protests, no casualties; response: Soleimani and Iraqui official killed.

    Pompeo’s excuse that the assassination of Soleimani was not for previous action on the general’s part but in order to prevent some great escalation which he was planning, was more likely one of the stories they sold each other, Trump, and the public, in order to create some ‘plausible’ deniability for the plan. What friggin’ criminals!

  154. @I'm Tyrone

    Not sure why so many commenters engage hasbara clowns like A123. Why engage people who aren’t debating in good faith?

    True thoughts and wise words, my friend.

    All those hasbara clowns are on my ‘Commneters to Ignore’ list. They can say whateva they want [freedom of speech], but I don’t have to waste my time reading or commenting on it.

    That really is a great feature of UR.

  155. @Gleimhart Mantooso

    God doesn’t bless muslims.

    Jesus Christ died for all men.

  156. Jay Fink says:
    @TKK

    Why then are there large protests from the Persian community in Los Angeles? They don’t have to worry about secret police. Personally I think he was a good man because he helped destroy ISIS.

    • Replies: @Alden
  157. The iraqi parliament will never vote to expell US troops, whats the betting their all bought and paid for?

    Anyone seen the movie snowden will know they prob have photos of them iraqi MPs with their mistresses and know where their secret bank accounts are.

    When it comes down to it personal financial interest will rule.

    • Replies: @Republic
  158. @jack daniels

    I would imagine that, given Giraldi’s background and experience, he is more than qualified to offer his analysis of the circumstances, situation and possible consequences on the topic under discussion and many people value that.

    You don’t have to agree at all but making empty comments like that are just a waste of your time.

  159. Remember the Maine and 9/11 ! The yellow press and Alex Jones are already talking about Iranian sleeper cells in the US , there will likely be a false flag attack on the “Homeland” ,with civilian casualties ,which will be blamed on Iran , as a result the public will be propaganized into supporting “decisive” action against Iran .

  160. @renfro

    Damn the guy deserves a medal! I hope he stay safe. This should be shared, now!

  161. chris says:
    @Bragadocious

    As you well know, Supercilious, Hezbollah was the military force which handed the Israelis their asses when they tried to invade Lebanon in 2006; Soleimani, being one of the organizers of that resistance.

    Subsequently, Israel used its complete control of its vassal, the US government, in order to declare them a terrorist organization in 2009. The reason they did it then is the same reason they want to destroy Iran, is in order to, among other things, have a free hand and take southern Lebanon and be able to finally keep it.

  162. Wow what an impressive bit of confusion. Giraldi says a big bunch of mistakes have been made and the end result might be the US withdrawing its troops from over seas bases. In other words a massive victory for the taxpayers and the rest of the world.

    • Replies: @Russ
  163. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:

    “”Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?””

    Animal House, 1978

  164. @TKK

    Crazy TKK lay in hay & he done obey the Israeli way & thus ge doth say: “They (Persians) act the fool in the street to mourn his death because it is expected, it’s a way to let off steam and it’s social.”

    • Troll: Wally
  165. Momus says:
    @John Chuckman

    @123 is spot on. Soeimani and the aye are toller have had this coming for about 2 decades. Did they really think that a full scale attack on a US embassy would go unanswered after the 2013 Benghazi atrocity?

    The 2 main protagonists have been eliminated and so have various minor Iranian minions. Many others have been arrested by US special forces and are being held.

    The Iranians are paralysed because their strategic brain has gone and they have no good retaliatory options.
    If they missile a US warship Donald will destroy their nuclear program. That is his end game. If they missile Tel Aviv the Israelis will strategically nuke them. The Iranians are shitting bricks.

    • Troll: NoseytheDuke
    • Replies: @annamaria
  166. @TKK

    What do you [plan to do with your thirty pieces of silver, hang yourself?

  167. Momus says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Might we assume that the US has the coordinates of every Iranian facility cancerned with their generational nuclear and missile program and the means to destroy them.

    The US has all the good options. The very fact that Iran has done nothing a week after the base attack and days after Soleimani’s removal indicates they are paralysed with fear.

  168. Momus says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Might we assume that the US has the coordinates of every Iranian facility cancerned with their generational nuclear and missile program and the means to destroy them.

    The US has all the good options. The very fact that Iran has done nothing a week after the base attack and days after Soleimani’s removal indicates they are paralysed with fear.

    • LOL: L.K
  169. anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gleimhart Mantooso

    God doesn’t bless muslims.

    So who exactly are the blessed? The Christian/Hindoo/… whiteys/blackeys/brownies…? Those who regularly contort their minds into pretzels trying to comprehend their pagan polytheist mangods-worshipping faith?

    You whitey idiots are such a confused lot that, at a spiritual level, you seem to be splitting like the amoeba, all the time. It is hilarious, and it is pathetic.

    Is that called a blessing in your pagan/godless kind’s spiritual dictionary? Lol!

    The Almighty One has blessed us true monotheists with these 4 verses, and much much more. If we get nothing else, these are enough;

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” : 112

  170. @TKK

    Dummy TKK doth obey the Israeli way, and naturally, he lay down in all wet hay, & he done say: “They (Persians) act the fool in the street to mourn his (Soleimani’s) death because it is expected, it’s a way to let off steam and it’s social.”

    Hey TKK! (Zigh)

    Re, above; As you’re aware, you are a low rent U.R. hasbarist.

    Haha. You stupidly figure guys like me have forgotten the mind-numbing & week long mourning pageant, extensively covered by ZUS TalmudVision,* for the ultra-Shabbos goy anti-hero, Senator John McCain, who famously cackled “Bomb, bomb Iran.”👺

    * Credit creative geokat for spoton “TalmudVision.”

  171. Realist says:
    @Angharad

    Jew.

    Your use of the word Jew as a pejorative is childish and simple minded. Max Blumenthal is a Jew….he very much appears to agree with the crux of Giraldi’s article. Unz is a Jew, who allows Giraldi to post articles like the one you are responding to…do you hold him in disdain?

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Herald
    , @Bookish1
    , @Nonny Mouse
  172. Realist says:
    @Bragadocious

    What was Qassem Soleimani doing near the U.S. Embassy?

    What possible reason could he have for being there?

    What possible reason does the US have for being in Iraq…hegemony, oil….and protection of Israel.

    • Replies: @Momus
  173. anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @TKK

    its called cash from working.

    Ah, the first clear confirmation from a paid hasbara troll!

  174. DanFromCT says:
    @anon

    The most vicious attack against me and my country I’ve witnessed came at the hands of young American Jews from NYC. I’d been back for a few years from a combat role in Vietnam and, at a party in our building where my wife and I were the only non-Jews, a bunch of Jews who’d just returned from fighting for Israel in some capacity during its ‘73 war went after me with a hatred that I can still feel to this day. They were saying that American soldiers suck and how much better Israelis were in the field. It ended when a woman no less yelled at me, “All we want is your money.” This from supposed Americans. As they like to say, “We Jews shit on you Christians.” If you haven’t worked on Wall Street with them, this may seem academic. The hate is palpable.

    I cannot understand how our higher ups bow and scrape before them, except to note the baked in contradiction of American military leadership—that those officers who’re early on identified for transfer to some HQ company are so selected because they’re generally order-taking martinets and the antithesis of warrior leaders, becoming in time the perfumed princes we see paraded like trained poodles before the kosher cameras on TV to sell out their country for Israel. I offer as proof their willingness to send Americans to do the dying and suffering so good Israeli boys need not. Can you imagine anything more disgusting than a putative man complying with crimes against humanity because he’s afraid of neocons like Max Boot or Fiona Hill and then has the gall to call it his sworn, patriotic duty? I can’t.

  175. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:

    It must be very visually traumatic for the Jews to come to know that his body was blown into pieces and not handed over the Jews fro Purim ritual.

    Do you think America will be asked to increase the doles and handouts?—
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/more-holocaust-reparations-for-2020-the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/

    All it need is getting a researchers on Fox and get him or her publish about the trauma experienced from a distance from the killing of an adversary despite the killing wanted by the Jews . Wordsmithing can follow New jargon will appear . People with those ideas will be showcased and promoted to Harvard or Yale or to the Anti semitism society of the US Cabinet ( It is not there but it exists ) . Money will be earmarked to get few extra senate vote or something like that .

  176. PeterMX says:
    @Daniel Rich

    I have to hold my tongue or fear putting myself at risk, but to give you an idea of what I’m thinking, I wish Iran all the luck in the world.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  177. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    When those transfer tubes come home, filled with our dead soldiers, killed fighting endless wars for Wall Street and Israel, will the flag draping the tube be one Made in the USA?

    And how much money did Jared K make by shorting certain stocks? He would of known of the coming murder of the Iranian general, I seriously doubt he would of let a money-making opportunity like that pass.

  178. @TKK

    Right – which is why the Iranians need to counter attack with sophistication – drop conservative interpretations of sharia law in local courts and take the class war the American mafia buries under a torrent of identity issues to a new and frightening level. The US has the Patriot Act, Iran should have the ‘Protect Homosexuals in Poverty Act’ and so on.

  179. Anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cara Lee

    We need more information. What exactly was discussed? If an author unjustly blocks private discussion, it is not a crime to bring it into the public sphere.

    • Replies: @nsa
  180. Breaking News: #Iraq Parliament approved to terminates all presence of foreign forces (#US) in the country and prevent these from using the land and sky if Iraq. [not that they’ll oblige, but Soleimani’s first victory is in the bag].

    “Every single #US soldier and officer in the Middle East will be a target”, said #Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah.

    #Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah “the US forces killed #QassemSoleimani and #AbuMahdialMuhandis and the US forces should pay the price but not the civilians. Civilians should not be touched”.

    • Replies: @renfro
  181. Harbinger says:

    “It will be an “open season” on Americans.”

    Well if Americans aren’t going to wake up and see Jews forcing the US into another war, just as they have all previous ones, then everything that befalls them will be their own fault.

    It just beggars belief that Americans (and fellow Brits) remain silent when their politicians continually speak about the protection of the 1% of their population and not only love of Israel but its protection at all costs. When the attack on a synagogue happened in London, recently, armed police patrolled Jewish areas. When 20%of Rotherham’s female population were raped and many murdered, by Muslim grooming gangs, there were no armed police patrolling Rotherham and worse they did nothing to stop it, when they knew long before, any action was eventually taken, what was going on. Instead they arrested members of the British public, BNP members for protesting against it and the lack of police action.

    I believe the saying is ‘a country deserves the government it has’. And of late this is becoming truer by the day. I don’t think Americans realise that they will now becoming a target, yet again, whenever they leave America. The Muslim population is growing in Europe, so I’d think twice about visiting if I were you. And I wouldn’t even contemplate going outside of it, or anywhere near the middle east.

    I wish for no harm on Americans. I am however hoping that Iran launches a preemptive strike on Israel. You can bet your bottom dollar that Israel will be carrying out quite a few false flag attacks on America and blaming them on Iran. The assassination of Soleimani was done to precisely create this scenario. Sure I know, they want Iran to attack Israel, who are clearly responsible, resulting in Iran becoming a pariah state, losing support from Russia and China, but two can play Israel’s ‘through deception we shall wage war’ strategy.

    The sooner Israel is turned into a glass crater the better for the world’s population. And while they’re at it, do the same with the city of London, Washington DC and the Vatican city. Get rid of the three ‘sees’ once and for all.

    • Agree: Old and grumpy, renfro, Kali
    • Replies: @Dannyboy
  182. @PeterMX

    I wish Iran all the luck in the world.

    Iranians say, “Over the past 2,000 years, barbarians roamed over our lands, destroyed our monuments and burned our libraries… We ask, ‘Where are they today?’ We are still standing. Steadfast and proud.”

  183. Ronnie says:
    @TimeTraveller

    Trump should tell the Iranians privately that he made a mistake and that he will not respond to such bad advice from Israel in the future. This is the only thing that would placate Iran and avoid acts of revenge. Will Trump eventually figure out that Israel is using him as a chump ? This would be a very interesting situation.

    • Replies: @Anon
  184. Tell me these nut jobs are anymore sane than any “Jihadi”

    Israel, evangelicals
    Among US voters, many in the group on the religious right known as Christian Zionists believe preservation of Israel is necessary until prophesied conditions appear for the second coming of Jesus. This makes them strongly anti-Iran.


    https://www.asiatimes.com/2020/01/article/trump-after-killing-god-on-evangelicals-side/

    • Replies: @Old and grumpy
  185. Moi says:
    @A123

    You sound just like Bibi.

  186. At least Jihadi’s have the courage of their convictions and are willing to do their own killing.
    Not so for the Christian Zionist, they would rather leave the dirty business of “killing in the name of God” up to someone else’s sons or daughters.

    Trump – who despite three marriages, sexual assault allegations and a controversial business history has made himself a champion of right-wing Christians – promised “another monumental victory for faith and family, God and country, flag and freedom.”

    “I really do believe we have God on our side,” Trump told the crowd at the King Jesus International Ministry mega church in Miami.

    https://www.asiatimes.com/2020/01/article/trump-after-killing-god-on-evangelicals-side/

  187. Vaterland says:
    @DanFromCT

    I cannot understand how our higher ups bow and scrape before them

    Media control, party and individual political donations, think tanks, high ground in the education system, immunity to criticism, because Holocaust, the hate speech bullies and intellectual terrorism of political correctness (references to Herbert Marcuse and the early Soviet Union), Universalism and sacrifice for ‘the other’/outgroup on the Christian side with ethnocentrism and nepotism on the Jewish side, liberalism in general and liberalism weaponized by manipulators, sanctification of the Jews in totality through Christian theology especially among American (boomer) Evangelicals: salvation is from the Jews, apocalyptic visions of rapture in Israel, third temple, Evangelical Zionism and so forth, general American/Western ignorance.

    Plenty of reasons. But primarily because the USA signed the devil’s contract to Jewish money and power, including the Rothschilds, since its foundation and especially in the world wars for its hegemonial global position. Haym Solomon, Alexander Hamilton, finally Woodrow Wilson and the Fed – to only name three examples. Jewish domination of US society is not an aberration or contradiction to what the USA is, but its conclusion. From a certain form of Christian fundamentalism to the God of money mixed with religion and ultimately the merchant revolt against the nobility of blood and spirit. USA, Wall Street, Goldman Sachs: it was the USA which turned the plutocratic oligarchy that rose with Western urbanization and global trade into true masters of the universe and the earth. Powerful and to be feared for sure, but the lowest form of human life to ever dare call itself an “elite”.

    Only a second, more fundamental revolution could change this, but is very unlikely to happen.

  188. Galan says:

    Go Home

    Iraq: Yankees and Persians go home
    Syria: Yankees, Persians, and Russians go home
    Yemen: Saudies and Persians go home
    Libya: Egyptians and Turks go home

    Go Home…Go Home

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  189. BL says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    @Bragadocious along with the two commenters responding to your comment are raising close in time salient facts that must be addressed (beyond mere dismissal) if Suleimani’s killing is to be coherently explained.

    Donald Trump rode to victory in 2016 on a promise to end the useless wars in the Middle East, but he has now demonstrated very clearly that he is a liar.

    Trump was an open, unwavering critic of JCPOA during the campaign and after becoming president.

    Instead of seeking detente, one of his first actions was to end the JCPOA nuclear agreement and re-introduce sanctions against Iran.

    This is incorrect. Trump didn’t cancel JCPOA until May 8, 2018, sixteen months after his inauguration. During that period, while frying other fish, he repeatedly offered to negotiate with Iran. To say that Iran was dismissive is a vast understatement. Instead, Iran very consciously mirrored The Resistance’s language awaiting his removal from office.

    Despite serious repeated provocations from Iran, which have been memory-holed, Trump refused to take the bait.

    So — and the above is a concise predicate, what explains Trump’s decision purportedly escalate? I say purportedly because that assessment is only credible if the recent actions of Iran are ignored or dismissed out of hand (e.g. “He had flown into to town to attend the funerals of the 26 Iraqi militiamen that we Americans had killed earlier in the week!”).

    The Iranians, Suleimani in particular, are no slouches. If a repeat of the Iranian Hostage Crisis that sunk Carter’s reelection, just plug-n-play in Bagdad rather than Tehran, makes ineluctable sense, and it assuredly does, then doesn’t that explain the abject refusal to consider it?

    After all, what would be Trump’s fate right now after dozen’s of Americans in the US embassy were held hostage by the instant equivalent of Iranian “students?” What would you have advised Trump when Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, taunted Trump, declaring, “You can’t do a damn thing.” Why was Democrat Senator Murphy declaring Trump “impotent?”

    Thus Trump said:

    Last night, at my direction, the United States military . . . killed . . . Qassem Soleimani

    . . .

    Soleimani was plotting imminent and sinister attacks on American diplomats and American military personnel, but we caught him in the act, and terminated him.

    . . .

    We took action last night to stop a war. We did not take action to start a war.

    Then, yesterday, Trump alluded to the original Hostage Crisis in promising swift retaliation if Iran escalates in response to Suleimani’s killing:

    ….targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago)

    That is a mere preview of what INFORMATION will be made public if Iran doesn’t negotiate a face-saving resolution to this situation, as Erdogan did after Turkey shot down a Russian fighter.

    Trump has no difficulty understanding the counter-party’s position. Ironically, this essential trait for a president has been used against him, particularly, but hardly exclusively, concerning Russia. I’m completely confident he understands the desperate circumstances his maximum pressure campaign put Iran in.

    I’m similarly confident that the Iranian leadership understands that the USG/Trump wasn’t going to allow a repeat of the Iran Hostage Crisis. It would err, so to speak, well on the side of caution.

    The irony is that the shoe was on the other foot after the failed coup in Turkey. Obama refused to make it right with Erdogan, and Trump/USG has had to deal with the consequences ever since.

    Per the above, I subscribe to the pessimistic certitude. I give it better than even odds that the US and Iran use this as a sanguine turning point to the benefit of both nations. The enabling narrative really isn’t so difficult to craft. I’ve pretty much done it above.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @ThreeCranes
    , @KA
    , @anon
  190. “For the pleasure of your company, I will give you anything you ask, up to the half of my kingdom!” pledged Herod.

    “Give me the head of John the Baptist!” she demanded.

    -No disrespect to Melania intended.-

  191. Russ says:
    @Medieval Kingdom

    Wow what an impressive bit of confusion. Giraldi says a big bunch of mistakes have been made and the end result might be the US withdrawing its troops from over seas bases. In other words a massive victory for the taxpayers and the rest of the world.

    In which case: Err on! Err on!

  192. anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Russ

    All glory, praise, and honor to Our Lord Jesus Christ — may He and St Michael ever watch over those of us redeemed by Him.

    Lol! May He and St.Michael… Lol!

    Pagan Polytheist Mangods-Worshippers, are you!

    The pagan idiot you are replying to refers to us true monotheists as “anti-Christ” … Rofl!

  193. Was Qassem Soleimani traveling in Iraq under diplomatic immunity, if not why all the fuss? Did Iran ever do anything above board? The hell with them!

  194. I can only wonder what responsibility uber-Zionist Sheldon Adelson has for this outrage. Perhaps the two hundred and fifty million dollar canpaign “contribution” to Trump in 2016 and similar support in the coming election has had something to do with the moving of our embassy to Jerusalem, the approval for Israel’s never-ending encroachment on Palestinan land and now a possible war with Iran. This country seems to be navigated, with the help of its fifth column, by an aggressive apartite nation of eight millions. How much longer will the American people tolerate this? Boycott!

  195. Iris says:
    @Ghali

    The murder of General Qasem Soleimani shows that, nothing on this scale of U.S. violence, criminality and violation of international law has been seen before, not even in Nazi Germany

    In 2011, the Internet had countless videos of Libyan children victim of US, UK and France bombing strikes.

    The most haunting I saw was that of a small boy, must have been around 7-years old, whose lower jaw had been blown apart by a blast. He was sat on a stretcher, helplessly trying to scream and could not even shout his unbearable pain in absence of a mouth.

    Two of Gadhafi grandchildren killed in the strike on his Tripoli house were a baby and a toddler.

    There is no record that I know of of Nazi Germany bombing the civilians of a country she was not at war with. The Anglo-Zionists are incomparably worse than Nazi Germany.

    • Replies: @Tony Vodvarka
    , @Bookish1
  196. Kapyong says:

    Gday all,
    For those who haven’t seen it – here’s a handy site that shows aircraft movement (using the new ADS-B satellite instead of ground stations) :
    https://global.adsbexchange.com/VirtualRadar/desktop.html

    Click on “Global Radar View” then “Global Radar” to see the map.
    It will initially show civilian and military flights, and may be very slooowww until you limit the view – options will allow you to select military only. Click on aircraft for details.

    There’s been some dozens of C-5s and C-17s and more shuttling US – Mideast etc. in last few days.

    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
  197. @Eric135

    Probably Trump like me never heard of the guy til this year.

  198. anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gleimhart Mantooso

    I am sure there must be quite a few righteous whites in euRapean lands. But, you appear to be the kind of utter degenerate, of the same kind as that pussy grabbing Orange-utan.

    He (and moral paupers like you) being our avowed enemies reflects great on us true monotheists. We must be on to something good. 😀

    All praises are due only to the Almighty One.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  199. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ronnie

    Whether he is a chump or avid supporter is a good question. He probably is influenced by Kushner and Ivanka.

  200. @Johnny Walker Read

    It wasn’t til last year due to something personal but trivial, that I realize these people are a dangerous end time cult. Prior to my event, I assumed they were harmless and misguided. We should declare them terrorist, drone kill the likes of Hagee and Osteen. Maybe then they would understand the depth of depravity and illegality of assassination. One can dream still.

  201. I would relish the thought of the U.S. leaving Iraq! And if the U.S. leaves, it should destroy the billion-dollar Embassy so no one else can use it in the future!

  202. BL says:
    @renfro

    I can assure you of one thing, now they’ll be looking at you.

    • Replies: @renfro
  203. anarchyst says:
    @DanFromCT

    Let’s not forget that, even in the united States of America, military officers above the rank of colonel are more akin to politicians than those of lower ranks who bear the “burden of command”. The general ranks are where the decisions are made, not without influence from the “military industrial complex” that President Eisenhower warned us about. War is indeed “good business”; unfortunately, “business” is about to get better.
    As to American citizens serving in foreign military services, automatic, irrevocable loss of American citizenship and immediate, mandatory deportation should be imposed.
    There is NO EXCUSE for any true American to serve in another country’s armed forces. Let’s start the revocation of American citizenship and deportations with every American citizen who has served in israel’s IDF.

  204. vot tak says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/janearraf/status/1213823941321592834

    “jane arraf
    @janearraf
    This is stunning – #Iraq prime minister tells parliament US troops should leave. Says @realDonaldTrump
    called him to ask him to mediate with #Iran and then ordered drone strike on Soleimani. Says Soleimani carrying response to Saudi initiative to defuse tension when he was hit.
    9:05 AM · Jan 5, 2020”

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1213833855754485762

    “Elijah J. Magnier
    @ejmalrai
    Replying to
    @ejmalrai

    @realDonaldTrump
    and 2 others
    We have learned today from #Iraq Prime Minister AdilAbdl Mahdi how @realDonaldTrump
    uses diplomacy:
    #US asked #Iraq to mediate with #Iran. Iraq PM asks #QassemSoleimani to come and talk to him and give him the answer of his mediation, Trump &co assassinate an envoy at the airport
    9:45 AM · Jan 5, 2020”

    • Replies: @Crazy Horse
  205. Harbinger says:
    @Galan

    I could say precisely the same to all non whites living the West.

    GO HOME!

    The world would be a far better place were it the case. There would be no migrant ‘brain drain’. There would be no non whites growing up within an alien culture and either giving up theirs to be part of something they’re not or promoting theirs to ultimately create clash of cultures. There would be no surplus labour, resulting in low wages and high cost of living. Crime levels would go through the floor. There would be no distractions to hide the blatantly obvious Jewish perfidy. This would result in the most likely exile of them, but to where? Best scenario is walled in land mass in Central Africa. Allow them no technology and monitor them 24/7 to majestic sure they’re not building a MOAB to blow up the earth.

  206. geokat62 says:

    A challenge to my fellow Unzers. See if you can watch this clip without puking within the first couple of minutes:

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  207. vot tak says:

    Iraqi Shiite Cleric Sadr Calls for International ‘Resistance Legions’ as MPs Vote to Oust US Troops

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001051077952584-iraqi-shiite-cleric-sadr-calls-for-international-resistance-legions-as-mps-vote-to-oust-us-troops/

    “In a letter to members of parliament, al-Sadr described the resolution as a “weak response [to] American violation of Iraqi sovereignty”. He went on to urge the government to cancel the existing security agreement with the United Sates, close the US Embassy in Baghdad and criminalise communications with Washington.

    The cleric, who heads the largest bloc in parliament, called on militant groups in and outside of Iraq to meet immediately and create “International Resistance Legions”.

    Although the newly-adopted resolution is non-binding for the government, it is likely to be fulfilled, given that the caretaker Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi had earlier demanded legislative steps from parliament to force the US withdrawal.”

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  208. @anonymous

    Yes, surely God is One.

    But what is “one”?

    Is a photon one particle, one wave, or both?

  209. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @BL

    Yours is a disabling narrative: just vote Team Red again, and then wait on President Trump to … wait … wait …

    All that Americans will ever see watching your kaleidoscopic 4-D chess match are some more bridges renamed for those gullible or desperate enough to kill for Uncle Sam.

    I doubt that anyone who writes that well could believe a word of it. But even if you’re sincere, that’s still blood on your hands.

    • Replies: @BL
  210. I woke this sunny California Sunday morning to this:

    Iraq Votes To Expel US Troops As Iranian MPs Chant “Death To America”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iranian-mps-chant-death-america-iraq-votes-have-us-troops-removed-country

    During an emergency parliamentary session this morning, the Iraqi government just voted to have foreign troops removed from the country.

    Interim Iraqi prime minister, Adil Abdul Mahdi, stressed during the session, that while the US government notified the Iraqi military of the planned strike on Soleimani, his government denied Washington permission to continue with the operation.

    Waiting for the next shoe to drop…

    • Replies: @Iris
  211. Please check the report on Chabad on henrymakow.com.

  212. @vot tak

    Although the newly-adopted resolution is non-binding for the government

    There appears to be some dispute about how legally binding this is:

    BREAKING: Iraqi Parliament pass a vote to end US military presence in the country.— Conflict News (@Conflicts) January 5, 2020

  213. Republic says:
    @Carlosfg54

    They just voted to expell all US troops

  214. @Iris

    Recall the Condor Legion bombing Guernica, Madrid and Barcelona during the Spanish Civil War.

    • Replies: @Iris
  215. padre says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Iranians are not Arabs and as far as inbreeding is concerned you show all the symptoms of it!

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
  216. Bookish1 says:
    @Gleimhart Mantooso

    Not only Mossad but probably many others would like to see a suicide bomber blow himself up somewhere in the US killing alot of people. That makes it difficult to figure out who did it and maybe impossible to figure it out. It would be a mess.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  217. Iris says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    After voting to “end the presence of foreign troops”, Iraqi MP’s chanted slogans against the US and against Israel (00:37).

    People are not fooled about who is really pulling the strings.

  218. Some hasbara shills here and on other threads claimed that Iranians were happy to see the death of the Iranian general. Videos don’t support that opinion. Twitter is lit up like a Christmas tree:

    Absolutely massive crowds on the streets of Mashhad awaiting the arrival of Qassem Suleimani."We are ready for war." pic.twitter.com/ZK4O8KQB17— Sam (@sonofnariman) January 5, 2020

  219. BL says:
    @anonymous

    Craig Murray:

    It is five years since I was last in the Green Zone in Baghdad, but it is extraordinarily heavily fortified with military barriers and checks every hundred yards, and there is no way the crowd could have been allowed to attack the US Embassy without active Iraqi government collusion.

    If you were advising President Trump, what would you say in response to his concerns that Iran/Suleimani was planning a repeat of the Iranian Hostage Crisis?

    Trump was offered at least several options of how to respond. The NYT claims through a leak by an anonymous official who claims to have been briefed after the drone strike that killing Suleimani was the “far out option.” We don’t yet know the other options presented to the President, let alone the intelligence and speculation about Iranian actions and plans they were engendered to avert.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  220. nsa says:
    @Anonymous

    “We need more information re comment blocking…..”
    Humble nsa has been censored as much as anyone and probably subjected to shadow banning by several authors……so can shed some light on the various moderation (censorship) practices. Apparently, each author can moderate comments as he sees fit…..so overt jew baiting is tolerated in varying degrees. It looks like several of the jew trolls are purposely there to stir up the wogs, so would not be surprised if the impish Unz himself wasn’t having a little sport and posting under a pseudonym (see comment 1 of this thread). It’s well known that many radio yak show hosts impersonate callers to create listener interest on a slow night. Phil Hendrie even admitted to it and turned it into a show theme before he went nuts. nsa subscribes to the idea that the content of intersuck comments is meaningless beyond killing some time while knocking down 25 ouncers……all that matters is that billions of blood shot eyeballs are locked on the glowing flat screen. A pop idol 60s Canadian academic even took the concept to its logical extreme…..using the example of the humble light bulb as a medium totally devoid of content but more important to human advancement than TV, radio, telephone, magazine, newspaper, etc all put together.

  221. Iris says:
    @Tony Vodvarka

    You are correct, but more recent and documented research shows that Guernica’s bombing was done on request of General Franco, who would therefore be responsible for the intelligence provided to the Condor Legion about the nature of targets.

    And the Germans did so within the framework of an agreement with a dictator they recognised as the sole legal representative of Spain, as did the Allies for the next three decades.

    • Replies: @ivegotrythm
  222. @Iris

    Per an AP article that I just scanned, the agreement with Iraq requires them to give the US a one year notice to withdraw. That will give the Trump Admin plenty of time to do more damage. Plus, would Trump listen anyway?

  223. One of my former students (?) received his commission in the US Army, I am very proud of that fact. bravo to him. We had a small dinner engagement to acknowledge his accomplishment as well as his commitment to defending the US. My positions on the previous invasions and smaller interventions are well known.

    But I will express, my concerns that some US citizens here are wishing ill on the US. While it is tempting because the consequences of being right about the previous interventions have yielded no “pats on the back” but more intervention, I have to reject that any harm befall my fellow citizens. That even if the bed for fighting has been foolishly made — I am going to defend US servicemen in the fight – and make short work of the matter and stay safe to get home.

    That if they must fight — then by all means — fight.

  224. @Gleimhart Mantooso

    Sometimes you hypocrite Evangelical Jesus worshippers just make my skin crawl.

  225. @Dumbo

    A pretty strong case can be made that Trump tried to keep his promises

  226. @Bragadocious

    What is the source of your claim that Giraldi supported the Libya intervention?

  227. “Trump . . . being praised for his “Christian values.”

    Utter and complete nonsense. No one is holding the president as the standard bearer of faith and practices of Christ.

    That does not mean that christian values, practice and even Christ himself cannot impact the presidents life and be transformative in his life.

  228. Jews stick together and are above the law.

  229. @Iris

    After voting to “end the presence of foreign troops”, Iraqi MP’s chanted slogans against the US and against Israel (00:37).

    I couldn’t understand what was being chanted, but they sound enthusiastic. MOA had this money quote:

    It is somehow ironic that the U.S. has spent lots of lives and money to “spread democracy” in Iraq only to be kicked out through an Iraqi parliament vote.

    A little premature – we are still there, but things are going to get very sticky. The big surprise (for me) was the Iraqi PM stating that he had invited the Iranian general, who came as an envoy with a message. The Iraqi FM is on his way to the UN to lodge a complaint against the US for our actions.

    Killing an envoy is a big no-no.

  230. Ahoy says:

    Stupid ZOG-Iran 0-1

    A construct that was based on pseudo-science, pseudo-religion and pseudo-economics is coming down fast. It had a short life, 1812(Waterloo)-2000(Yeltsin fall)

    America will rise again, as the Zoos yoke is about to brake. A country that gave to the world figures like Steinbeck, F. Scott Fitdgerald, Edgar Alan Poe, Ezra Pound cannot wither away to oblivion

    They deposed him

    because they thought by bringing Homeini they could bring a country like this

    /www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+iran+in&aq+the+70%27s&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGR797GR797&oq=pictures+of+iran+in+the+seventiess=chrome.1.69i57j0.53581j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    back to stone age like S. Arabia but they forgot some 2000 years of Iran’s history.

    For LIBERTY and HUMAN CIVILIZATION the count down has started.

  231. It’s not a big deal that the Iraqis burned that crusader fortress. Embassy political officers are shitting enough bricks to rebuild the whole Green Zone.

    There are two words we haven’t heard much at all.

    Bill Buckley.

    Because the world’s unfinished business with the USG is not just murder. It’s Camp Nama, Camp No, the Salt Pit, and the refoulement pipeline. Systematic and widespread CIA torture constituting a crime against humanity. Let us not forget that before CIA started torturing in the Moslem world, they were torturing away in Latin America. The civilized world was denouncing the torture in resolutions that became customary international law, and codifying the criminal law of torture in conventional law. The US just blew it off. In response to continued CIA impunity the Tupemaros kluged a fix. Ask Dan Mitrione how that went.

    Nasrallah processed Bill Buckley. Snappety snappety crack pop crunch! Nasrallah has now formally made every US officer in the region an objective. Let us recall that the current DCI is implicated in torture, hostis humani generis in peremptory norms of international law, showing that torture is CIA policy.

    CIA spooks are already pretty useless in, you know, finding out stuff. Their HUMINT has long been shit in any rough neighborhood. Now the USG will be blind as bats with CIA spooks cowering in their compounds, retailing Mossad war propaganda. The SCO and its observers have very good HUMINT indeed, because they’re not slavering bloodthirsty assholes killing everything that moves. The US military dumbshits will be fish in a barrel whenever they try to do anything but hide and blow shit up.

    The Axis of Resistance knows who the enemy is. They know who’s in charge. CIA. They pity helpless downtrodden Americans under the CIA heel, finishing their second decade of ICCPR-illegal state or emergency under CIA’s COG secret law. Let’s hope the Axis will decapitate those Nazis and try them at Nuremberg II.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @geokat62
  232. Adult diapers in Israel must be overflowing as the implications of what just happened sinks in. I expect a flood of hasbara on this thread today.

    From my friend, Taxi, an American expat in the Levant:

    https://platosguns.com/2019/12/30/mythomania/#comment-26523

    Today’s media in israel was over-caffeinated and breathlessly discussing the Suleimani killing and wondering whether israel is on Iran’s target list or not. I kid you not – they spent all day in knots and tiswas and never gave a unified answer to the question. LOL bunch of out of touch terrorists. Yesterday jews were celebrating the assassination of Suleimani without a care or thought. Today, no limbo dancing, but much insecurity and nail-biting.

    People who live in bubbles should not start fires.

  233. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @BL

    Some comments on threads like this seem to thrive for evasion and distraction of good faith argument.* Your question to me is based on a dubious premise of Iran Hostage II, one that you suggest is accepted by Mr. Murray. All painting President Trump as sympathetic, beyond criticism (forever?) because we mere serfs aren’t privy to secret stuff.

    *The expressed sympathy fro Bragadocious, polished style and greasy substance led me to look at your commenting history. One post says BL was in college in the late 1960s, while a later one says early 1980s. Same person?

    • Replies: @BL
  234. Harbinger says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The last war fought on US soil was at the end of the civil war 150+years ago. The last war on British soil was Culloden 250+years ago. Since then all wars fought by US and British forces have been as mercenaries. None defended their homeland.

    If you cared about your former student, you world have done your best to dissuade him from enlisting. “War is a Raquet” as Major General Smedley Butler wrote and I highly recommend his book. Americans and all Western nations have become nothing more than meat for the grinder, for the politicians who wage wars for globalist bankers, none losing any of their own family whatsoever.

    You can’t play a game of chess if there aren’t any pieces on the board. It’s the same with war. “But if we’re attacked who will defend us?” is the convenient argument for the want of military forces. My answer is, you’ll bloody well defend yourselves!

    How it is that so many fathers, mothers, teachers etc, are happy to see their children go off to war, to murder, maim, mutilate peoples who pose them no threat or ill will, destroying nations and cultures and if they come back, alive, in one piece then the horrors they witnessed will lead to a traumatic existence, is utterly beyond me and rational thought.

    And by no means, whatsoever, am I a pacifist. When it’s time to fight I will. I just won’t jump into the grinder for Israel and Judaism, unlike the armed forces personnel of the western civilization.

    • Agree: Ilya G Poimandres
    • Replies: @Prester John
  235. Policy of US Military:

    1. “You men(and women) go overseas and kill all those sand ni**ers to serve your Jewish masters.”

    2. “You will be court-martialed if you say ‘ni**er’ or ‘fa**ot’.”

  236. geokat62 says:
    @Saint Catherine

    The Axis of Resistance knows who the enemy is. They know who’s in charge. CIA.

    No, no, no…. it’s the Swedes!

  237. DaveE says:

    I haven’t read all the comments, but no-one seems to be considering the false-flag angle. If the Jews don’t see sufficient “progress” toward full-on war with Iran, I’m sure a nuclear hit on an American city (or twelve) done by the zionists and blamed on Iran, will change some “hearts and minds.”

    IMHO that’s been the plan all along. Trump has already shown himself to be a traitor of Biblical proportions and the plot is just beginning to unfold.

    Watch for Jews fleeing a city on a specific day….. like they were told not to show up to work at the WTC on 9/11.

    • Replies: @DaveE
    , @Momus
  238. @Cloak And Dagger

    Assassination of an Iranian official on a visit to Iraq is already a war crime. So was the invasion of Iraq by the Shrub. So were numerous murders of people in various countries. So, a few more war crimes won’t change the score. Every US president, at least starting with Clinton, is a war criminal.

  239. In reality, the series of foolish attacks initiated by the United States over the past week will only hasten the departure of much of the U.S. military from the region.

    The Americans aren’t going anywhere. They were asked to leave by Iraq, now. They will not leave. The Israeli controlled Pentagon/White House are mobilizing to get things going on this. What they started here is not going to quiet down – it was designed to provoke until they get a reaction or until the Axis of Evil (Israel/USA/UK) get another false flag staged and pinned on Iran this time.

    This is definitely the beginning of the end but we don’t know what the “end” means for whom, yet.

  240. “And it might well, on top of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya, be the long-awaited beginning of the end of America’s imperial ambitions.”

    Well, we shall see. The fact that the Iraqi parliament has voted US troops “out” of Iraq certainly puts things in a different light, for if we ignore them we are putting ourselves in the position of an aggressor, at least in their eyes and possibly in the eyes of other ME countries (and that’s all that counts), with the question for the house being “What do we do NOW, coach?”

  241. DaveE says:
    @DaveE

    And BTW everyone, Merry Christmas. The REAL Christmas will be honored tomorrow, 1/6 by the Orthodox Church.

    • Thanks: Iris
  242. @geokat62

    Hey Brat geo!

    Have yet to reach a “puking” moment after observing for quite a long time what ZUS presidents did to please Israel and subsequently fucked over my “Homeland’s” interests.

    Below I shall demonstrate how the Jewish Corporate Media pretends that Netanyahu “stumbled” after he publically acknowledged that Israel is a nuclear power. Haha, (Zigh), Who is he accountable to?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-netanyahu-nuclear-idUSKBN1Z40CS

    All world nations know about this nuclear lie,🇮🇱 including Russia, China, and Iran, but of course, deceived Amerikans must be kept silent & happy within the Greater Blue & White darkness.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  243. FLgeezer says:
    @DanFromCT

    Great post Dan. And thank you for enduring what befell you. It was likely within your power as
    a combat veteran to have dispensed with the lot of them. You are a genuine American hero and
    may your tribe increase.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  244. annamaria says:
    @renfro

    Winning minds & hearts in the Middle East, the ZUSA way: “Commander of Hearts’: Grieving Iranians flood streets in Ahvaz to bid farewell to General Soleimani:” https://www.rt.com/news/477499-soleimani-procession-ahvaz-iran/
    Comment section:

    Mike Pence is now saying Soleimani aided the group that did 9/11. Lie on top of lie on top of lie.

    Reply:

    So that is why Israelis was dancing at 9/11

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski, renfro
  245. @EliteCommInc.

    It’s exactly the point that they must not fight, because they fight for aggression, against humanity, and for profit. Such an army can only enforce evil, as the US has done. That the body of the nation is naive and misled, whilst the head is vile, is only more tragic.

  246. @Harbinger

    Totally agree with your last statement. It should be noted that the offspring of our, uh, “leaders” rarely if ever see actual combat (if in fact they even serve in the military at all). For example, the last president we had who actually had a shot fired against him in anger during combat was Old Man Bush. His successors either dodged the draft (Slick Clinton), received deferments (The Don), served in the Air Nat’l Guard (Junior Bush) or, in the case of Obama, were never subject to conscription.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  247. ra says:
    @York

    it’s not that I am a fanboy, or idolizer of Trump, it’s that I want us out of all our foreign entanglements. On the campaign trail, he made it sound like he wanted that in part also. Up until now, he has successfully frustrated the neocons, for example when they wanted responses to the drone downing and supertanker bombings. I also think there is a good chance he was not in the loop based on his past use of twitter. If not, Tom Luongo has an interesting take on it. I was not so sure that the establishment Rinos would not vote for impeachment, Tom’s article covers that. Now that the Iraqi parliament voted to have us leave, we will see if my hopes are justified. If we do leave Iraq and Syria, I will still back him. I believe his margin of victory in the last election was the anti-imperialist vote. What with the demographic changes in the country, I don’t think he can win if he doesn’t keep that vote. I understand your anger at our current oligarchy, which I share, but that is not going to change until things start collapsing, For now I just want us out of the ME as a first step..

  248. Harbinger says:
    @Prester John

    Yes, all have dodged the front line. Take the royal parasite Prince Harry who served in Afghanistan, other than the fact they’re is no war going on, just a plumber of oil, minerals and poppy protection, you can guarantee the closest he got to any ‘fighting’ would have been watching ‘Platoon’ or some other war film.

    Interestingly, the last, true, left wing politician, Roger Cook, resigned from the government, opposing the war in Iraq. He was subsequently murdered, while walking on the mountains with his wife. He felt a pain in his chest and an air ambulance called. He was picked up, his wife left on the mountain and died en route. Heart attacks are a speciality of Mossad.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  249. In case you have not read it yet, go read the press release from the Iraqi PM’s office..

    He personally invited solomani to discuss a saudi peace proposal which trump had asked him to mediate.. The saudi’s US/israel had setup the meeting for this assassination.. Now the US regime is going ape and threatening to kill bomb and slaughter everyone and anyone they want for anything at all.. Its like the entire water supply was filled with prozac and they are losing it.

    But this vile act will not go unpunished.. And Russia/China will be watching closely because the US just said they will assassinate anyone that threatens US interests or just because that gets points in the US press or what not.. Not just a rogue state but one run by utterly vile gangsters..

  250. “no-new-war pledge, a position that might reasonably be directly attributed to his incestuous relationship with the American Jewish community and in particular derived from his pandering to the expressed needs of Israel’s belligerent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.”

    Yep, the Jews control American foreign policy and much of American domestic policy. I don’t see them giving up their family, homes and possessions and rushing to the military enlistment sites to support Trump’s and Netan-yahoo’s new war which has all the potential to become a world war. At a minimum the Person Gulf will be closed and the middle east will become a caldron vise a bush fire that it once was.

    Dammit Trump. I sincerely regret voting for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    But then, would Killary have been any better? I fear she would have been far worse. Jewish money makes all American politicians for high office dependent on supporting Israeli foreign policy.

    Utterly sickening how captive Jewish money has made the American people.

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
  251. annamaria says:
    @niceland

    Nothing but incompetence.
    The incompetent deciders of the CIA (all of them are careerists and sycophants), the incompetent “deciders” among US brass (all of them are careerists and sycophants), and the overconfident and psychopathic banksters who want other peoples’ wealth by any means including the massive slaughter of human beings, constitute the “head” of the US.
    The incompetence and moral rot of the “locals” have been used profitably by Israel-firsters and major war-profiteers. The US “head” is afflicted by cancer of profitable and murderous immorality, which is the inevitable consequence of the lack of patriotism. In the absence of patriotism on the top, the nation does not have an immune system to protect itself from terminal decline.
    It is all coming down to cowardice. The US Congress and US brass are a collection of savvy cowards.

    • Agree: Agent76
  252. @AnonFromTN

    Hey AnonFromTN!

    A fair question.

    Was the Fall 2001 invasion & endless occupation of Afghanistan, by the “Shrub,” a war crime?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  253. geokat62 says:

    Two groups protesting, today. Can you tell which one is genuine and which one is bogus?

    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  254. BL says:
    @anonymous

    I never said I was in college in the late 1960s, if a BL commenter here said that it is someone else. Nor did I suggest that Murray was making or substantiating my argument that Suleimani was planning to seize American embassy hostages. His comment was offered as indirect substantiation for my assertions.

    Look, there isn’t anything at all trollish or an attempt at distraction in my comments. I suspect you would have done the same as most everyone else here, ignored my posts because you couldn’t effectively counter my arguments, if I hadn’t chosen to respond to a comment of yours.

    Believe me, if I simply wanted to push buttons it would be a whole lot simpler than the effort I put into conveying and substantiating my considered thoughts and speculations.

    All painting President Trump as sympathetic, beyond criticism (forever?) because we mere serfs aren’t privy to secret stuff.

    Man, what would be a bigger waste of my time than trying to argue that Trump is beyond criticism, let alone a sympathetic figure?! Instead, if you simply took my comments at face value you would see that I’m arguing he and his national security team had good reason to suspect an operation along the lines I’ve suggested.

    I suspect that no one will respond to the substance of my analysis, including you, because if you put yourself in Trump’s position you would have directed the same response he did.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @FB
    , @anonymous
    , @Meimou
  255. @TKK

    ‘…Unz himself is already considered a joke due to his blatant solidarity & sympathy with America’s enemies and his “acres”of anti- Israel propaganda…’

    At least try not to contradict yourself in the same sentence. Are you claiming Unz is for Israel or against Israel?

  256. KA says:

    “The international coalition fighting Islamic State has suspended operations against the terrorist group so its forces can concentrate on protecting US, UK and other troops at bases in Iraq following the killing of Qassem Suleimani.”. Guardian ( UK)

    Does it mean that the coalition is ignoring the demands of the Iraqi parliament ?
    Does it make them target for terrorism within and outside Iraq ?

  257. annamaria says:
    @Momus

    It is always easy to spot the “most moral and most victimized” Israelis (like “Momus”) by reading their supposedly”brave” declarations that betray a profound lack of morality and intelligence. Keep posting, Momus. Very educational.

  258. @TKK

    ‘… They act the fool in the street to mourn his death because it is expected, it’s a way to let off steam and it’s social.’

    …and we can invade, and they will kill us by the thousand, in Iran, abroad, and here at home, and they won’t stop until we leave, and maybe not even then.

    …and they’ll do it ‘because it is expected, it’s a way to let off steam and it’s social.’

    …and so it’ll all be just great, won’t it?

    Read about the Iran-Iraq war. These guys aren’t afraid to die. We’ll wind up eclipsing Genghis Khan — and lose anyway.

    …and to cap it all off, it won’t even help your beloved Israel. In the aftermath, we’ll retreat into isolationism, and yanked off our tit, Israel will wither and die within a decade.

    …I hope you’ve moved there so you can enjoy it.

  259. @MEexpert

    ‘…This guy is nuts and this is what we will get as a result of Trump’s impeachment.’

    Huh. Weird, isn’t it?

  260. Momus says:
    @Realist

    …yes..all good reasons

    • Replies: @Realist
  261. Momus says:
    @DaveE

    Up your medication. Iran doesn’t have the bomb or a delivery system.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Iris
    , @DaveE
  262. geokat62 says:
    @BL

    I suspect that no one will respond to the substance of my analysis…

    Ok, I’ll bite.

    You wrote:

    The Iranians, Suleimani in particular, are no slouches. If a repeat of the Iranian Hostage Crisis that sunk Carter’s reelection, just plug-n-play in Bagdad rather than Tehran, makes ineluctable sense, and it assuredly does, then doesn’t that explain the abject refusal to consider it?

    After all, what would be Trump’s fate right now after dozen’s of Americans in the US embassy were held hostage by the instant equivalent of Iranian “students?” What would you have advised Trump when Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, taunted Trump, declaring, “You can’t do a damn thing.” Why was Democrat Senator Murphy declaring Trump “impotent?”

    So, to avoid what happened to Carter who lost re-election because of the hostage crisis, you assert Trump took preemptive action and authorized the assassination of Soleimani.

    Based on the reaction to this action, however, wouldn’t most agree that the chances of a hostage crisis are now significantly higher than they were before?

    • Replies: @BL
    , @Momus
  263. @Bragadocious

    Soleimani was not near the US embassy. He was killed at the airport shortly after arriving from abroad. It would be better to acquaint yourself with at least the basic facts before posting a comment.

  264. @Iris

    Guernica was a fake Communist psyop.

  265. It’s sad that more Americans don’t see through the shenanigans of the powers that be. And most of the few that do are too intimidated to speak up, even amongst friends and family. The power of mass media seems insurmountable. Most of humanity seeks consensus, not truth.

  266. ANZ says:
    @renfro

    “What if’…..next week, month, whenever…..the headline news was about the head of AIPAC, the head of the ZOA, head of JINSA, several Jewish msm owners……all being killed over the course of a few days by a sniper.

    Intereting scenario. If it is true that Jewry is ultimately behind this push for assassinations and war with Iran, the Iranians would surely be aware of it.

    In asymetrical warfare, it’s not about duking it out on the battlefield. It’s about targeted attacks that do the most damage. Furthermore, the U.S. is the body in this situation but Jews/Israel is likely the head. Where is the best place to strike back in this case?

    Seriously, anybody think the Jews will be dissuaded if their golems get retaliated against?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @renfro
  267. geokat62 says:
    @Momus

    Iran doesn’t have the bomb or a delivery system.

    …. but, but, but, Bibi repeatedly assured The Dumb Goyim they do!

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  268. FB says: • Website
    @BL

    I suspect that no one will respond to the substance of my analysis…

    What ‘analysis’ hasbara gerbil…?

    The idiotic nugget you dug up out of the ‘toilet paper of record’ [NYT] that Soleimani was supposedly planning another US hostage taking…?

    Or the fact that you started squirting diarrhea in support of the pissant ‘Bragadocious’…who is not even educated enough to know basic facts…[like Kataib Hezbollah is an official part of the Iraqi armed forces, answering directly to the Iraqi PM, and has nothing to do with Iranian Hezbollah, and is certainly not on any terrorist list…]

    Heck his gift of stupidity on this thread keeps on giving…he rudely threw a question into Mr Giraldi’s face about what Soleimani was doing at the US embassy…when in fact he was nowhere near it…

    And now we know from Iraqi Prime Minister Abdul Mahdi EXACTLY what Soleimani was doing in Iraq…he had arrived in Damascus as an ENVOY…to meet later with the prime minister himself…at the behest of the US, and bearing a letter for the Saudis…

    Only it turned out to be an ambush…a violation of every international law and every imaginable diplomatic protocol…a killing of an envoy…straight from the prehistoric era…

    Is that the ‘analysis’ you’re trying to make little feller…?

    You’re either an irredeemable retard…or some troll farm keyboard wanker…one or the other, makes little difference really…

  269. Iris says:
    @Momus

    Hey, Hasbara clown.

    Iran has just announced that they will stop respecting any limits on the number of uranium enrichment centrifuges, stockpiles of enriched uranium, or nuclear research and development established within the 2015 nuclear agreement.

    The law of unintended consequences will teach you many lessons in the near future.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/05/iran-ends-nuclear-deal-commitments-suleimani-killing-iraqi-parliament-us-troops

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  270. geokat62 says:
    @ANZ

    If it is true that Jewry is ultimately behind this push for assassinations and war with Iran…

    If?

  271. @AnonFromTN

    Sorry about the delayed response – ran out of my 3 comments/hour quota.

    Assassination of an Iranian official on a visit to Iraq is already a war crime.

    Undoubtedly true. But the hits keep coming and the ability for the US to successfully spin each crime into something benevolent diminishes each time. It is incredible how Trump has been played by Israel to do the one thing he hates the most – public humiliation. I have said it before: grab the man’s ego, and you have the man.

    But, this time Israel overreached and signed its own death warrant. I am reminded of what Kissinger said back in 2012:

    Henry Kissinger Predicts ‘In 10 Years, There Will Be No More Israel’

    https://www.inquisitr.com/349213/henry-kissinger-predicts-in-10-years-there-will-be-no-more-israel/

    Well, if he is right, and it seems that he well may be, 2022 is almost here.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  272. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @BL

    You keep tripping yourself:

    “Nor did I suggest that Murray was making or substantiating my argument that Suleimani was planning to seize American embassy hostages. His comment was offered as indirect substantiation for my assertions.”

    So you didn’t suggest that it substantiated, you just offered it as indirect substantiation. You write like a sleazy lawyer.

    And still not a speck of evidence for your (inadequate at that) whitewashing of the war crime under discussion.

  273. Ahoy says:

    @ Colin Wright #267

    We read “and yanked off our tit, Israel will wither and die within a decade”.

    Spot on!! Man, you look ahead and you read today’s world with engineer’s precision.

    The New Year could not bring a better gift to toiling Americans.

    The nightmare that Tennessee Ernie Ford sang as “I owe my soul to the company store” will desapear with the first light of the day.

    Liberty and Freedom will return on this earth and this time will be forever.

  274. By-tor says:
    @vespasian

    Real war against an empire is fought against its perimeters and can go on for decades. Strategically, Iran need not hurry, because Iranians have cultural and religious allies in the region. The US does not. The US most likely will not get to fight Iran in another re-imagined mechanised blitzkrieg as it did sanctions-crippled Iraq, Panama and Grenada.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/africom-confirms-terrorist-attack-us-base-kenya

    US bases of influence are spread out all over the Mideast, as well as in the middle of Africa, and Americans must use aircraft to man them and to resupply them. Large command and supply bases in the Sunni oil kingdoms and the remote US Spec Ops ‘training’ bases such as all of those in Syria, Africa, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia and Afghanistan are military targets and are unsustainable in something approaching a regional land war over the long term. Iran need not use its regular soldiers to attack any US outposts as it has effective proxies already deployed. The British and French experiences in Iraq and Algeria respectively show that western powers’ colonial-militarism cannot outlast armed and motivated nationalist movements. Neither the French nor US could strategically defeat the irregulars of the Vietcong. Armed locals with even moderately effective leadership and the sympathy of the surrounding population can exercise force dominance over unwanted trespassers.

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
  275. @Philip Giraldi

    ‘…He had flown into to town to attend the funerals of the 26 Iraqi militiamen that we Americans had killed earlier in the week!’

    He may had flown into town in response to pretended peace feelers from us.

    https://colinwrightssite.wordpress.com/2020/01/05/the-latest/

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @ChuckOrloski
    , @renfro
  276. Iran doesn’t seem to be very tech-savvy. Press TV seem to have a YouTube channel up and running but they only joined on 14 December 2019 and their output so far is not very suited for the Western audience.

    Iran is totally in the right here, this American-Israeli provocation is plain to see for those who wish to do so, however as you must know most people are low-information types who only glean information from the talking heads on CNN/Fox (who of course parrot the same line with regards to foreign policy, albeit each adding their own ‘spice’ to favour Democrats or GOP).

    They need to make a short documentary on Zionist oppression and put it on YouTube where it can be shared and seen by millions, they should not rant about Jews or incite violence to stay within the YouTube terms of service but they should shine light on things like the 1953 coup, USS Liberty, Lavon Affair, Iran Air 655 shootdown, creation of ISIS and Al-Queda and much more.

    Their ‘death to America’, although an understandable sentiment, is not the most effective startegy IMO. They could wake up a lot of sheeple if they pleased and cause support for war in the West to drop and opposition to war increase. They should also subtely touch upon the Jewish hawks pushing for war, this way they can dog-whistle people familiar with neo-con/Jewish symbiosis to post comments naming the Jews (half the fun of YouTube is the comments section, with some videos having tens of thousands of comments).

    • Replies: @KA
  277. @BL

    Your’s is the first comment in all this melange to actually attribute some agency to Iran in this matter.

    • Replies: @BL
  278. Skeptikal says:
    @Bragadocious

    You are seriously behind the curve.
    Solameini had been invited to travel to Baghdad at the behest of Donald Trump to mediate with the Iraqi PM. They had an appointment for the next day.
    So STFU.

    • Replies: @radkelt
  279. Skeptikal says:
    @Cara Lee

    Concern troll?
    Why bring it over here, but not supply actual details?

  280. @Iris

    ‘…The law of unintended consequences will teach you many lessons in the near future.’

    ? What makes you think this consequence was unintended?

    • Replies: @Iris
  281. Skeptikal says:
    @JamesD

    “but Trump couldn’t let those attacks go unanswered.”

    Why not? He has done it before.
    Other countries, such as Iran and Russia, let attacks go “unanswered.” Fortunately.
    So that you and I and other are still alive to publish inanities at UR.
    Anyhow, now Trump is wheedling for “proportionate response” from the Iranians.
    Craven. Pathetic. Small wiener.
    What was “proportionate” about 24 Iraqis dying for one obscure (and still unidentified) mercenary—I mean contractor.

  282. renfro says:
    @Daniel Rich

    If Iran does retaliate for Soleimani’s murder it should be on a Israeli target. If tit for tats commence all Iran hits should continue to be on Israel.
    That would make the Trump adm have to switch their spin from protecting America to protecting our ‘ally’ , Israel.

    The Iranians know the US is being used by the Jews and Israelis , they need to reinforce that fact for the worlds publics in whatever they decide to do.

  283. anastasia says:

    With this assassination, it is apparent that it was Suleimani who attacked those Japansese tankers in the STraight of Hormuz, that it was him who bombed the oil field inSaudi Arabia, and it was him who shot down our drone.

    I was in doubt that Iran attacked the Japanese tankers, and I believed the Iranians when they said the drone was in their airspace, but in regard to the oil field in Saudi Arabia, I always believed that Iran did it for the simple reason they never denied it.

    But at this point, I believe it may have been Iran, and in particular Suleimani who had led the string of attacks on tankers in the Straight of Hormuz, and I am now suspicious whether Iran was telling the truth about that drone being in their airspace. Iran most definitely set that oil field on fire. I never had doubt about that.

    These are acts of war- surreptitious war, but war nonetheless.

  284. renfro says:
    @BL

    I can assure you of one thing, now they’ll be looking at you.

    Then they will once again be looking in the wrong place…..thats the genius in my plan..lol

    • Replies: @BL
  285. Agent76 says:

    January 03, 2020 There can be no justification for this act of murder

    “America’s lawless arrogance has gone too far with the assassination of Iran’s top military commander. The deadly airstrike against General Qasem Soleimani was carried out on the order of President Donald Trump.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52797.htm

    Jan 3, 2020 Iran has the ‘right to retaliate’ over US ‘act of war’

    Tehran University’s Mohammed Marandi says the US’ “murder” of a senior Iranian military commander is “definitely an act of war”.

  286. @DanFromCT

    One helluva comment. Hat’s off to you, sir.

  287. As usual, Jews & Israel are millstones around our neck.

  288. KA says:
    @Just passing through

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/media/fox-news-iran-soleimani/index.html

    Tucker Carlson is livid with anger and frustration at Trump’s actions .

    Death to America is a rallying point for Iran to emphasize the same aspect of American status .
    They talk in future . Carlson is reminding that we are already there .

    If people woke up with anger at Iran., they would find that the dead horse isn’t able to do much but only can attract a lot of attention from far .

    The reason Taliban didn’t inform Mulla Omar’s death was to let the rank and file continues to remain engaged without getting into internal feuding fight .
    A trues state of US won’t be televised until the horse starts rotting but then that would be quite late .

    I don’t recall any dissent until this assassination . Now 70 cities are witnessing protests and a few in Media are not happy at all .

    There is a big unknown if and when Iran would strike back and at who. Persian is not like khasaogi murderer or Harri kidnapper .

  289. gotmituns says:

    Good news. Now the Iraqi Parliament has voted to expel our troops. Bring all American Troops home from all over the world.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  290. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @vot tak

    So not only did Trump commit a war crime by assassinating a general from another country there has been no formal declaration of war with but did it on what would be considered neutral territory. Not only that he compounded this felony by killing him when he was under diplomatic protection.

    I think that declaring the US persona non grata and giving them time to leave is a rather mild response to committing such an act of blatant aggression compared to the other actions justified under international law. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an imperialist rube.

  291. DaveE says:
    @Momus

    Google “false flag attack” SFB. Israel has plenty of nukes and plenty of sayanim to deliver them.

  292. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @anastasia

    Then you are a brainwashed moron. Pardon me. You’d need a brain first.

    • Replies: @Anon
  293. @TKK

    Do you know any Persians? They detest living under a brutal theocracy.

    The status quo in Iran is a product of the American and British coup of 1953 through people like “Kermit the Frog” Roosevelt Jr.

    Perhaps today the country would have been like Malaysia or Dubai.

  294. @Bookish1

    Not only Mossad but probably many others would like to see a suicide bomber blow himself up somewhere in the US killing alot of people. That makes it difficult to figure out who did it and maybe impossible to figure it out. It would be a mess.

    But they could always find an un-scorched Iranian passport in mint condition among the debris of the explosion.

  295. Beware the false flag action or attack .phibetaioat.net : “Thierry Mayssan : Will Donald Trump be assassinated by US Zionists blaming it on Iran?”
    voltairenet.org: ” In the United States forces opposed to President Trump will now have the opportunity of assassinating him while pointing the finger at the Shiite world. As for Iran , while it never misses an opportunity to assassinate its traitors abroad, it considers it counterproductive to take out foreign leaders .”

    • Replies: @anon
  296. renfro says:
    @ANZ

    Furthermore, the U.S. is the body in this situation but Jews/Israel is likely the head. Where is the best place to strike back in this case?

    Seriously, anybody think the Jews will be dissuaded if their golems get retaliated against?

    The US Jews are the head that dictates our policy toward Israel.
    There are not any politicians in Israel that have the leverage/where with all to enforce it.
    So yes they are the ones to strike.
    It is a message to Israel.
    It is also a message to US politicians.
    It is also a message to the US public.

  297. Anon[268] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump bears full responsibility for what comes next.

    Giraldi: you talk about Trump as if he were the one in charge…

    • LOL: PetrOldSack
  298. Castellio says:
    @PAX

    Three short sentences. Moving. True.

  299. Not a single commenter has considered the possibility that the United States would ever pull out all the stops and just obliterate their adversary in a manner akin to the conquerors who swept across Europe millennia ago. Kill all the males over the age of ten and take their women for concubines.

    All the “wars” cited by the naysayers were police actions. In none of them did we go for broke.

    Not saying I support this, just that I find it curious. Have we really developed “better natures”?

    • Replies: @aandrews
  300. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe this is the end of the orange man politically and America will get the communist government they always deserved, run by the half senile Bernie Sanders with Vice President AOC patiently waiting until he croaks.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  301. @gotmituns

    I think we all know the Orange One who is in the pockets of Jews and Israel First nationalists* will not actually pull out troops. I have also heard someone on this comments board says the agreement between the US and Iraq stipulates that the US has 1 year to withdraw if requested to do so by Iraq, so he will no doubt cite that reason for staying there as long as possible – which leaves ample time for more Jewish tricks and swindles à la USS Liberty or Lavon Affair.

    The real question is whether or not his room-temperature IQ support base will pick up on the fact that their man in the White House is only increasing troop presence despite being told to piss off by the Iraqis, thus laying waste to the myth that Iraqis are begging the US to stay there. Will this be the broken promise that will finally deprogram the hordes of MAGAtards and awaken them from their slumber?

    * – https://lobelog.com/trump-has-a-259-million-reason-to-bomb-iran/

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  302. Herald says:
    @A123

    Your trolling clogs up the UR comments section and not many are going to miss you, when almost inevitably you get the old heave ho.

    • Replies: @Monty Ahwazi
  303. Herald says:
    @Realist

    It seems a simple statement of fact. You’d want to know if he was Iranian, wouldn’t you?

    • Replies: @Realist
  304. Max Parry says:
    @A123

    The first comment AND the stupidest. Well done!

  305. aandrews says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Most people are sane and civilized.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  306. Paul C. says:
    @renfro

    Very inspiring. He’s right, the best way to send a message is to shut down business as usual. It takes some coordination but if everyone stayed home for a few days, and abstained from spending money, no work, no school, no commerce, coupled with marches in your local area, it might make a difference. Similar to what the Yellow Vests are doing in France. Apolitical and non-violent.

  307. Barzini says:

    Not just Trump, but the last few presidents, have all promised to scale down American overseas intervention. George W. Bush, Obama, and now Trump. None of them have delivered. Are they all liars? Confused? Or do none of them have any real control over our foreign policy?

  308. renfro says:
    @PAX

    We have become Israel. How very sad. We were better

    Amen
    RIP America

  309. BL says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Thank you for noticing. To be outrageously generous, most commenters, and especially the ones responding to me, are engaged in the sort of knee-jerk bias confirmation bias observed of people spectating sports.

    I’m asked, in one form or another, “What’s your proof?” The irony is that I doubt that anyone being honest and even barely knowledgable about Suleimani would declare him incapable of conceiving and pulling off such an objective. Nor that it would be a real “game changer,” as opposed to what that shopworn cliche is usually deployed about, including the Suleimani killing.

    Yet and still, for me to be right in my analysis, it merely has to have been a reasonable fear the President was told by his national security apparatus the intelligence was mounting.

    The Green Zone in Bagdad is highly secure. Yet Suleimani’s Iraqi militias were granted entry. Besides how ominous that was in and of itself, it would have proved Senator Murphy right that Trump was “impotent” and that he had no idea what he was doing, if he responded by removing personnel from the embassy for their safety based on vague threats or, worse, assertions that the still alive Suleimani was planning to seize the embassy.

    And, remember, this was occurring in a domestic context in which the Democrats and elements within the National Security State have been and continue to be dedicated to removing Trump by any means necessary. Does anyone think that if The Gang of Eight were consulted/briefed beforehand that Pelosi/Schiff would have approved taking out Suleimani, or not moved the day after an embassy seizure new impeachment articles — and this is to say nothing about what would have leaked and when.

    • Agree: danand
  310. Anon[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @Crazy Horse

    I know it’s time-taking, but one should check a commenter’s history before deciding that their comment be dishonest, unintelligent, or good satire.

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
    • Replies: @Crazy Horse
  311. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Possible . They have been blaming Iran for their failures and for their own collusion with ISIS on Ian

  312. Iris says:
    @Colin Wright

    The way President Trump’s ME policy is seen by the people of the region (as summarised by Hassan Nasrallah) is that his strategies led to utter and complete failure.

    – He repudiated the JCPOA and applied sanctions, requiring Iran to beg for negotiations; they completely ignored him.
    – Lebanon’s Hezbollah has tremendously improved their military capabilities against the demented racist state North of Gaza.
    – Iraq is breaking free.
    – The US-led coalition has lost the war on Syria.
    – President Trump has recently made a political somersault and was obliged to initiate talks with the Talibans, talks he initially repudiated.
    – He just further lost credibility by abandoning the US Kurd allies to be slaughtered by Erdogan.
    – The wretched, impoverished, powerless Palestinians have superbly ignored his “Deal of the Century”; they did not even attend the meetings.

    If this is success, I wonder how failure looks like.

    As for the murder of the late Solaimani, which I have no doubt was primarily driven by Israeli agenda, it is creating popular unity in Iran despite all the recent socio-economic turmoil, political unity in Iraq despite the faction fractures, provides the framework for expelling US forces from Iraq, strengthens the Shia Crescent, brings together Shia and Sunni in all of the Muslim world, will provide the opportunity for some traditional US allies (Germany, France) to devise a more independent foreign policy, and the list of unintended consequences goes on.

    Only short-sighted Hasbara trolsl can think that the Solaimani murder is a success.

    Iran is not like the US, who let Israel murder its citizens in total impunity during 9/11; they will use this adverse event to re-shape the region at their advantage.

    Israel is a short-sighted, greedy poker player; Iran is a profound, sophisticated chess player who will win the long game.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @annamaria
  313. BL says:
    @renfro

    You should take yourself to see Clint Eastwood’s new movie, Richard Jewell. Or read up about Steven Hatfill.

  314. KA says:
    @BL

    Iran had every right not to renegotiate with US . Deal was deal. Trump could have left and followed the agreements . Instead his masters donors and his Jewish advisers made it sure that they could do through him what they all along wanted —- ,strangling Iran through more sanctions. .

    Iran didn’t provoke unless killing the rebels and ISIS supported by Israel US Saud are considered as acts of provocations . Unless Iran demanding implementation of JOPA was act of defiance .

    The lies about Iran killing 600 have been laid bare by Scott Horton in http://www.antiwar.com

    CNN William Cohen is saying false flag and blamed enough Iran

    • Replies: @BL
  315. renfro says:

    Trump telling congress he wont comply with the requirement to consult with congress before going to war.
    He is insane. He has become 100% Israeli in making up his own law.
    Trump law by tweet.

    @realDonaldTrump
    Follow Follow @realDonaldTrump

    ”These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!”

  316. @Colin Wright

    To P.G., Colin Wright suggested: “He may had flown into town in response to pretended peace feelers from us.”

    Hey Colin,😴.

    Above, such impression might fly with a Quds Force General who had no memory of the Iranian Islamic Republic officials who reportedly cut a hostage release deal-delay with The Great Pretender, G.H.W. Bush, in Paris.

    Haha. Zionist Democrat Carter returned to Georgia and Zionist Republican Reagan flew into town.

  317. KA says:

    William Cohen on CNN is saying that ISIS could attack US or Iraqis and blame it on Iran.

    He is also saying that the very mention of 52 targets would mean to Iran that US was planning to invade Iran for a while .
    I believe his opinion that Russia would emerge empowered . He reminds CNN host Wolf Blitzer that : we would be chanting death to Iranian if Iran targeted Pompeo or Pence or Army chief .

    • Replies: @annamaria
  318. Realist says:
    @Herald

    It seems a simple statement of fact. You’d want to know if he was Iranian, wouldn’t you?

    That’s bullshit. It wasn’t done to identify him…it was done as a slur. I thought you were smarter than that.

  319. @Cloak And Dagger

    I’m not sure what the hell is going on.
    1. Dr.Dave Janda is out there telling us that Solemaini was a DeepState asset, Trump doesn’t want war with Iran, that Solemaini was the head of Quds Force, the Hard Core operational arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, that he has been on a U.S. kill list for near a decade and that Obama repeatedly nixed assassinations when he was exposed to drones on several occasions.
    2. The Dems, and the loony leftists, are out in full force ranting about Trump: he acted unilaterally (why would he tell them, they leak like a sieve), he’s starting a war with Iran, blah, blah, blah….
    3. The Right are basically saying hey, Iran is our enemy, we took out one of their guys, no big deal, it is war
    4. Not many people are pointing out that Israel has wanted to destroy Iran since the late 70’s, ever since the Shah (installed by the U.S. after they ousted Mossadegh, who had been elected by Iranians in ’53, and was their guy who they sold massive amounts of weapons to) History reminder: Sadaam, at the time a ‘good guy’, was used to fight a war against the Islamic Republic in the 80’s. It was a long, brutal war that cost both sides a lot of lives; chemical weapons were used and mustard gas attacks (just like our WW1) were common.
    Sadaam, bitter over how Bush Sr. fucked him around financially and let Kuwait use parallel drilling to siphon off Iraqi oil, offered to sell Europe Iraq’s beautiful light sweet crude (the best oil on the planet) in Euro’s. Threatening the U.S. petrodollar system was his unpardonable sin. People forget that it’s not about oil; it’s about the U.S. petrodollar system. Threatening the U.S. DOLLAR is what gets the Bankers in Wall St, London, etc. upset. Note: Qaddafi tried to set up a gold backed Dinar with 40 Billion worth of Gold to compete against the Colonial Franc. He was killed and the Gold disappeared. Just like 911, the Gold in the Bottom of the WTC was on deposit by dozens of Banks (Deutsch Bank and many others) and was stolen. Where is the Gold? No one even talks about it.

    Israel. They are in crisis. They have had no real government for several months. BoBo can’t form a coalition gov’t and is threatened with indictment. Another election will occur in March or April. BoBo would love a war to stay in power. Will Sheldon Adelson, Singer et al pressure Trump to come down hard on Iran (killing a senior Iranian leader is pretty drastic isn’t it?) to benefit BoBo. If you want Peace then don’t assassinate Iranian leaders, right? Seriously, this has escalated the situation immensely.
    Trump has abandoned the nuclear deal, instituted intense sanctions and is now killing their officials. How does that look like a plan for Peace?
    I expected Trump to maintain a status quo with Iran until 2021. To escalate with Iran BEFORE an election is shocking to me.
    I don’t imagine I am alone in this analysis.

    • Thanks: ThreeCranes
  320. @ChuckOrloski

    At the time I thought that it might be justified, if Al Qaida actually did 9/11. Now I know that Al Qaida was and is a CIA operation and have my doubts regarding its involvement in 9/11. Even if it was, that was on direct orders of its American handlers. What’s more, now I know for sure that the US government spreads shameless lies, so you can’t believe anything it says. In fact, you can safely assume that everything it says is a lie and be right 99.9% of the time.

    So, I did not see it as a war crime back then, but I do now.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  321. Miggle says:
    @anonymous

    Maybe this is the end of the orange man politically and America will get the communist government they always deserved, run by the half senile Bernie Sanders with Vice President AOC patiently waiting until he croaks.

    So you prefer social inequality, highest incarceration rates in the world in privatized prisons, the most murderous police in the world who kill vastly more innocents than the Chinese Communist police, astronomical costs of medications, everyone in debt for life, highest rates of homelessness. And use “communist” as a demonizing insult of anyone trying to repair the social destruction, the failed Ugly Shit Arsehole. And invent the lie that AOC is waiting for Sanders to die. Brainless but fanatical.

    • Disagree: Phil_from_NJ
  322. BL says:
    @geokat62

    Based on the reaction to this action, however, wouldn’t most agree that the chances of a hostage crisis are now significantly higher than they were before?

    No. Are you reading that here or anywhere else as possible retaliation taken by Iran for killing Suleimani? More to the point, the (original) Iranian Hostage Crisis took a particular form: purported “students” over whom the new revolutionary government had no control.

    The last thing Iranians would do now in retaliation for Suleimani’s killing would be to take hostages, or direct their proxies to do so; much less of an American embassy. And, if it did, it would be incontrovertible proof of what Suleimani had been planning.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  323. Wally says:
    @Dumbo

    So, of those currently running who would you prefer?

    • Replies: @Per/Norway
  324. Mefobills says:
    @Biff

    And also Poland. They used Kol Niedre to lie and pretend the were Christians. The 1926 immigration cut off was because of this indigestable group. Their descendents pushed through 1965 immigration act.

  325. @Cloak And Dagger

    Henry Kissinger Predicts ‘In 10 Years, There Will Be No More Israel’

    That’s the most optimistic post on this thread.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  326. Wally says:
    @El Dato

    said:
    “Pompeo says == Goering protesting”

    Please explain.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  327. @anastasia

    You mean, an American crime conforms American lies? Fine logic. Fit for the lunatic asylum.

  328. geokat62 says:
    @PAX

    We have become Israel. How very sad. We were better.

    It’s more like:

    “We have become Palestine. How very sad. We were better.”

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  329. @renfro

    Of Trumpstein, renfro opined: “He is insane.”

    No. Trumpstein does exactly what his Supremacist Jew masters, who bred him to be ZUS Commander in Chief, tell him to do.

    Is doing such “crazy”? Nah. A peaceful Trumpstein would be immediately recalled to the Mad Jewish scientist’s laboratory. 👺

    With respect, thanks, renfro!

  330. “If you cared about your former student, you world have done your best to dissuade him from enlisting. “War is a Raquet” as Major General Smedley Butler wrote and I highly recommend his book. Americans and all Western nations have become nothing more than meat for the grinder, for the politicians who wage wars for globalist bankers, none losing any of their own family whatsoever.”

    Ohhh goodness gracious. Major General Butler did not wish his troops or his country ill. He was stating a position held most people — that war is a nasty, filthy, insane business best avoided. but it is safe to say the General, acknowledged that at some point in time human communication by any other means fails and they fight —

    And if my fellow citizens who serve the nation’s defense are caught in a fight, then by all means they should fight. And that regardless of the careless choices made by we, the civilians who send them to do the fighting.

    Service is an honorable profession, and i am ever confident that most US citizens do serve honorable — and my student will as well. But he is reflective of the concern I have for all men who serve and fight, should it come to that.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Phil_from_NJ
  331. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    We need to stop besmirching Christians and call it Evangelical Zionism. It is a heresy. It is not Christianity. Scofield, the Rapture and all the rest of the crap that goes with it is heretical.
    I like Christianity and Christians. Seeing what has been done to subvert mainstream Protestantism and the attack on Catholicism (sex-offenders are not specific to catholicism; look at public schools, Judaism, BoyScouts, etc), both of which are Jewish operations, has been one of the worst things to happen in the West over the last century other than the endless [email protected] WARS destroying our people.
    To destroy a culture you destroy it’s institutions. We have ineffectual Christianity, Hollywood and Media poisoning children and adult’s minds, a Government filled with radical Leftist DeepState lunatics. The subversion and destruction is endless.

    The West needs to institute Treason Trials. We need to publicly and utterly repudiate certain behaviour or there will end up being nothing left.
    Trump is the GREAT BETRAYER.
    He will betray EVERYTHING that America is about. He will leave his base completely and utterly betrayed. They will figure out why and it WILL get very, very bloody.
    Trump and Israel have played the last card in a vicious game and they will reap the whirlwind. I am calling it now: he will end up hated by his own base, despised more than McStain and it will lead to a Civil War/American Revolution 2.0.
    All because Jews and the Luciferian ‘Elite’-Scum think they can play games with people’s lives. You can’t.
    Expect to see bodies dropping soon. That is my prediction. I am not the only one who has figured this out. There will be immense consequences. You cannot tell people that they are getting their country back and then sell them out to Jews. It just won’t sell.

    Advisory: anyone with a certain intelligence level who pays attention will reach the conclusions I have arrived at. This is a prediction. It is not an incitement to violence. Having said that however: how can the Synagogue of Satan, the Black Nobility, the Banking Scum et al expect to target the people of this planet with various weapons and NOT expect people to notice and take action?
    As proof of malevolent intent: investigations into the death of Dag Hammerskold led to the discovery that the HIV virus was injected into thousands upon thousands of people in Africa by an organisational front called the South African Maritime Institute. Insiders, ie. former employees, recounted how they injected the virus into thousands and thousands of Africans to create AIDS which has subsequently killed about 40 million and affected 60 million (my numbers may not be perfect). The audit of the money trail indicates that a Rockefeller funded it and the CIA implemented this program via arms length use of ‘contractors’.
    Bottom line: the Luciferian ‘elite’-scum want to play god. They want to kill you, your kids, your grandparents and your neighbours. Only useful slaves will be kept to produce children they can then used to sacrifice to Moloch (after they have drank the blood).
    THIS IS OUR REALITY!

    • Replies: @Art
  332. “It’s exactly the point that they must not fight, because they fight for aggression, against humanity, and for profit. Such an army can only enforce evil, as the US has done.”

    There’s a reason we ought to avoid US servicemen involved in policy making. And the majority of those who serve do so entrust that their service is good. And my willingness to hold them to acclount for the lousy choices of the civilian authority is very slight. Then men in the fight are not fighting for profit.

    They are fighting for the men next to them, in the fight. In that fight all of the political strategies mean for nought.

  333. renfro says:
    @Colin Wright

    Iraq PM Abdul-Mahdisaid said yesterday Suleimani was carrying a diplomatic response after he had been asked by Trump to mediate a toning down between Iran and SaudiArabia.
    So it was a set up?

    • Replies: @FB
  334. @geokat62

    Genuine is individual too, and being stuck in a cult makes for a most genuine experience!!

  335. Art says:

    These truths must be unambiguously stated.

    I do not want to see any American die and I do not want to see Iran lose to the Jews.

    Obama put us on a path to peace with Iran – Trump on a path to war.

    We are being the bad guy – we are not looking out for peace – Trump is out to destroy Iran for the Jews.

    Trump is falsely flying the American flag – his belligerence begs confrontation – he promises escalation – he is sucking the world into another war for Israel. Everything that follows is on him. All the death and all the blood is on Trump – PERIOD.

    We must face it – Trump’s love for the Jews defines his presidency.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  336. @Wally

    To El Dato, and on the potential topic of Goering/Pompeo Thought, Wally asked: “Please explain.”

    Yo Wally!

    Fyi, prior to the barbaric hit upon General Soleimani, am more interested in exploring what Trumpstein/Netanyahu discussed. So, No-Wall Wally, a favor.

    To boost my lagging MAGA confidence. can you please repost President Trump’s “many accomplishments”? 😲

    I reckon his bonespurs are acting up, and simultaneously, his manitas are aching to pull the trigger on Iran. Have a nice day, thank you!

    • Replies: @Wally
  337. Bookish1 says:
    @Realist

    Rare exceptions

    • Replies: @Realist
  338. Add one more war crime to the pile for when the SCO pulls Gina out of the fake rock and puts her in the glass cage at Nuremberg II.

    So far we have aggression by sending of armed bands and irregulars; armed attack on the civilian population; a sneak attack in breach of the Convention relative to the Opening of Hostilities; illegal war propaganda, to wit, fabricated chemical weapons attacks; and murder, a war crime in universal jurisdiction.

    Now we have one more compounding war crime: perfidy. Using the pretext of parley for ambush.

    When it’s time to decapitate the CIA regime, the victors can really clean house. The US used the purported Pearl Harbor sneak attack as legal justification for nuking Japan. That’s a handy precedent to have. No doubt there are some decent human beings inside the beltway, but if Russia or China turn it into a sinkhole of molten basalt, no one will complain. The USG’s a cancer on the world. They’ve got to be put down like rabid dogs.

  339. geokat62 says:
    @BL

    And, if it did, it would be incontrovertible proof of what Suleimani had been planning.

    Incontrovertible proof?

    So, let’s see if I’ve got your logic straight, BL:

    Step 1 – Allege he was planning to organize a hostage taking at the US embassy.

    Step 2 – Assassinate him as punishment for committing alleged crime.

    Step 3 – If there is in fact a subsequent hostage taking at the US embassy, allege this is irrefutable proof of your initial unsubstantiated allegation in Step 1.

    Why, this is nothing short of a stellar example of Aristotelian logic at it’s finest, BL!

    Oh, btw, I hope you don’t mind if, henceforth, I address you by your full name, Big Liar?

    • Replies: @KA
  340. Bookish1 says:
    @Iris

    You forgot the genocide of the Germans in ww2 that killed millions of innocent women and children and old people. That’s the one we like to forget and pass over.

    • Replies: @Winnetou1889
  341. Art says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    We need to stop besmirching Christians and call it Evangelical Zionism.

    An excellent point — words matter.

    From now on it is “Evangelical Zionism.”

    Think Peace

  342. @Iris

    As for the murder of the late Solaimani, which I have no doubt was primarily driven by Israeli agenda,

    In fact, this crime and prompt approval of it by Bibi hurt Israeli interests a lot. This was Bibi’s agenda. Bibi hopes that a war with Iran would save him from a well-deserved prison sentence. I hope not. He deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his miserable life.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Iris
  343. walrom says:

    $80 billion for the Trump head. It is not funny.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  344. anon[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @BL

    John Kashis on CNN speaking from Ohio today reminded the host Wolf Blitzer that US under Trump scuttled and undermined a potential thaw in relations between US and Iran with Japan ’s Abe mediating the contacts and subsequent meeting despite initially agreeing . Not unbelievable given what was done to NK. by Bolton gang .

    No Trump was not serious He thought he could billow smoke and scare Iranian like he thought he could Venezuela and NK . Around this time last year this mean man bought and raised by Zionists was exactly doing same thing to NK hoping they would fold.
    Guess what Iran may not have nukes But it wont fold. Trump is psychopath a bully otherwise he would have raised hell against Israel and against the overt bribing of him by Adelshon. That is his character . He puffs and huffs . He knows sometimes those puffs might sway a reed but he doesn’t know it won’t break or uproot them .

    Trump is not honest even by his own standard .Patriotism or White nationalism is the cloak he wears to hide this defect.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
    , @By-tor
  345. radkelt says:
    @Skeptikal

    Skeptikal

    Please provide source or documentation for comment regarding Solameini traveling to
    Baghdad at the behest of Trump.

    tnx

    • Replies: @barr
  346. Castellio says:
    @niceland

    The benefits you list as not having been achieved were never the intent. Those were, in the main, made up reasons to misrepresent the actions the US government was taking. Ethical Americans clung to those reasons, and still cling to those reasons, rather than have to admit the larger pattern, and their role in it.

    • Replies: @niceland
  347. BL says:
    @KA

    Iran had every right not to renegotiate with US

    Quite right. Iran went with the smart money, which predicted he would soon be removed from office.

    Deal was deal. Trump could have left and followed the agreements

    He could have but didn’t have to. It was within his power to withdraw and that is what he promised to do during the campaign. In the event, he waited sixteen months before doing so.

    . . . strangling Iran through more sanctions. .

    Yes, an essential context to understanding why in my view Suleimani was planning to have Iraqi militias under his command seize American embassy personnel and hold them to sink Trump’s reelection as surely as the earlier seizure did Carter’s.

    It’s been evident for some time that the Maximum Pressure campaign isn’t the joke that the smart set claimed. It most especially wasn’t making Iran stronger and more economically independent as was and continues to be claimed about the sanctions on Russia.

    That has created a danger roughly akin to how the Empire of Japan was backed into a corner by the US, leading it to green light the Pearl Harbor attack.

    Trump understood this, which is why he was willing to meet with the Iranian President at the UN and the most recent G8. But the Iranians were too stubborn and proud to bend the knee.

    • Troll: FB
    • Replies: @Herald
    , @FB
    , @KA
  348. @walrom

    It’s just 80 million. Anyway, his empty head is not worth more than 80 shekels.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  349. @Herald

    He/she is the same person with 2 names here a123 & Willem! Both are pretty obvious trolls or a….

  350. @anon

    Agree, Trump got 5 deferments during the Vietnam war but is quick to send Americans to die for Israel.

  351. bjondo says:
    @AnonFromTN

    He deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his miserable life.

    God agrees and more.

    Satan’s wall is to imprison every
    Israeli with a well-deserved prison sentence
    forever.

    They (Satan’s spawn) just don’t know it
    yet.

    “Food” will be dead olive trees.
    “Drink” will be raw sewage.
    “Life” will be deserved.

    5ds

  352. KA says:
    @geokat62

    Yes the Zio talk . Israel is openly supporting this killing but according to Oren Israel doesn’t want war
    Israel has killed civilians Russians and Syrians and Iranians in hundreds last year but according to Oren Israel doesn’t want war.
    Israel has invaded airspace of Syria and Lebanon hundred times but according to Oren Israel doesn’t want war.
    Israel tried to kill Iranian general but according to Oren Israel doesn’t want war
    ADelshon gives money to attack and nuke Iran but according to Oren Israel doesn’t want war
    FDD constructed by Zio in Israel wants to destroy Iran but according to Oren Israel doesn’t want war

    Michael Oren on CNN to Wolf .But Wolf doesn’t rebut ,doesn’t show any curiosity doesn’t ask ,doesn’t question He swallows it in one nod this as nothing but absolute unvarnished wisdom and truth .

    • Agree: Castellio
  353. @Bookish1

    @Iris “You forgot the genocide of the Germans in ww2 that killed millions of innocent women and children and old people. That’s the one we like to forget and pass over.”

    Iris, Germans will Never Forget Dresden, Pforzheim and other atrocities. You do not own atrocities. Jews have been purged from every place they have lived for 3000 years. Tell me why they are periodically purged over centuries in time.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    , @Bookish1
  354. KA says:
    @geokat62

    Sometimes you spend so much time correcting the obvious lies or misinformation or textual padding by meaningless words that you start thinking how much time is lost in doing so. But at least we learn one thing how to argue against the Zionist and the evangelical lost souls .

    If you don’t ,they would say “ well neocon won the arguments “

  355. bjondo says:

    This murder (apparently using peace as a trick)
    turns all the Happy New Year wishes into sh*t.

    Nothing like beginning The Year of the Rat
    with deceit and murder with deaths to come.

    The rat: vicious, dirty, double dealing, thieving.

    On a positive note, maybe Amurderka leaves/booted from Iraq?

    5ds

    • Replies: @anon
  356. Iris says:
    @AnonFromTN

    In fact, this crime and prompt approval of it by Bibi hurt Israeli interests a lot.

    I don’t believe this analysis is correct.
    Netanyahu may be embattled at home and looking for glory, but the one thing him and most Israelis agree upon is that abusing their neighbours, Christian and Muslim, Sunni and Shia, is the right thing to do.

    In her memoirs, Leah Rabin described how her husband Yitzhak Rabin evolved and decided to enter negotiations with the Palestinians: they realised that the Israeli people had become “like the Ku Klux Klan” (her words exactly).

    I think everybody in Israel is rejoicing at the cowardly murder of Soleimani; just look at the comments by the known Hasbara trolls.

    Agressing Iran will bring about Israel’s demise, but that will be only justice.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  357. @renfro

    Trump telling congress he wont comply with the requirement to consult with congress before going to war.

    You know, we should give our constitution to the Iraqis – we don’t use it anymore. Every soldier who fights in such a war is violating his oath to protect the constitution instead of refusing to obey illegal orders. Nuremberg ruled that “following orders” is not justification for war crimes.

    Let’s get off of our jingoistic crap with the “USA! USA! USA!” chants. If we really “support our troops”, let’s bring them all back home where they can have normal lives and not create more PTSD-infested veterans, who either commit suicide in large numbers, or go postal on their family and neighbors.

    After 9/11, there was a ready-to-use Patriot Act, formulated long before the event, that gets renewed every time it expires. Then there is the AUMF, where congress abdicates its responsibility to be the one to decide to go to war, instead of the president. Despite so many people barely eking out an existence in this country, we spend more money on defense (offense) and Israel than all our rivals put together – and despite that, Russia, and soon China, have more advanced (and less expensive) weaponry than we do. We can’t even defend against the new hypersonic missiles should they be launched in our direction. It is enough to make you weep. This is treason.

    I know that you feel the same way.

    • Replies: @renfro
  358. @AnonFromTN

    That’s the most optimistic post on this thread.

    It is somewhere between optimism and wishful thinking. Two years is not too long to wait and see where in that spectrum reality lies.

    I will note, however, that sometimes events occur with amazing rapidity. Dams that have withstood years of downpours suddenly snap and wash away ancient villages. Israel’s existence is less than a blink in historical time.

    Will you shed a tear when it vanishes?

    • Replies: @Gilles
    , @SolontoCroesus
  359. @EliteCommInc.

    No doubt you’d mourn over the death of a mafia hitman too, given that he was just doing his duty.

  360. @AnonFromTN

    Hey AnonFromTN!

    A question.

    Do you reckon it would be good strategy by impeachment supporting Senate Democrats & maybe a couple Republicans to take President Trump on for his colluding with Israel on the dangerous Soleimani killing?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  361. Dannyboy says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    When we get ahold of your kind, you’re going to think Hell has come to Earth.

  362. @A123

    Is this a media release from Israel?

  363. @FLgeezer

    Combat veterans are certainly not heroes. The American war in Vietnam was a war crime, at best the vets who served there are innocent dupes and at the worst they are war criminals. The war resistors are the real heroes.

    • Replies: @Anon
  364. anon[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @bjondo

    “When a white man becomes a tyrant, it is his own freedom that he destroys.”
    – Eric Arthur Blair (aka George Orwell)

  365. @AnonFromTN

    Al-Queda means “the database” in Arabic and was a computer database of anti-Soviet Mujahideen kept by the CIA in the 80s

    They numbers no more than 300 in 2001 when an entire Western coalition was formed to invade Afghanistan

    They were the perfect enemy because literally anyone opposing US-Israeli interests could be added to this database from then on and suddenly this highly organised Islamist group were everywhere from Nigeria to Indonesia.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  366. anon[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @niceland

    what Castellio said.

  367. More invaluable stuff from Taxi from her perch in Southern Lebanon:
    https://platosguns.com/2019/12/30/mythomania/#comment-26512

    POINTS FROM NASRALLAH’S SPEECH TODAY:

    Nasrallah just finished his mindblowing speech that lasted for some 1hr and 45 mins. He began, naturally, with a moving eulogy and prayers for Suleimani and other martyrs, then went into blow by blow detailing the assassination itself, and who was behind it, what this means etc. He called Trump a failure in all his foreign policies towards friend and foe alike. He called him a weak leader because he is well, a fool of a man.

    Then he went into Iranian territory and listed a long litany of US crimes against Iran, all the while Iran containing itself, but… that these old days of self-containment towards its victimization are now over, that an offensive posture has now been adopted by Iran, and that it will punish the perpetrators of the war crime against Suleimani.

    He talked of the immense loss to Iran now that Suleimani has passed. He called him “irreplaceable”. He added that his loss is also a loss for the members of the Axis of Resistance (‘al muqawama’). He clarified that Iran has its own plans for reprisal, and this would be Iran’s choice. He said that Iran is not asking any member of the moqawama to go forth and revenge on its behalf. Nothing of the sorts. It is not asking for action, or non action. This, he added, means that each individual unit of the moqawama must decide for itself how it would respond to Suleimani’s killing, separate and independent to Iran’s personal plans. He said: “target US forces, target israel, whatever you choose”. Here, I will tell you, dear reader, that Nasrallah hadn’t even mentioned israel till he spoke this sentence – and when he said the word israel, he said it in a dismissive and quiet voice then quickly shifted to talking about the next point. This told me that the Hezbollah will hit at israeli targets if the US touches Iran’s territory – that this decision has been taken.

    Then, his speech got very interesting. He began talking about the ‘action’ that must now be taken to avenge Suleimani and ALL other martyrs who died for the muqawama. He referred to it as the ‘just punishment’ to the crime. He said that to target a US General or a Head of State of sorts is not the correct way to go or to measure the response because Suleimani has no equal either in the US military or in the US congress. He said that “even Suleimani’s shoe is worth more than Trump and all the heads of his government put together”. He said that the ONLY FAIR PUNISHMENT therefore is to fully target the US forces for eviction from the region. “Eviction of US forces is the fair punishment”, he emphasized. He named the US MILITARY AS THE TARGET that should be focused on: soldier and General alike – targeted on land, in air and at sea. He specified that the American citizen is NOT the target, but the American military is. He emphasized this distinction. He said that American citizens should NOT BE TOUCHED. He said it was the US military that performed the murder, therefore the US military must pay the price – nobody else.

    He said that all freedom and justice-loving people of the region must support the eviction of all foreign forces from the middle east as they have done nothing for the people of the middle east except kill, steal all resources and humiliate them. Moreover, he said that once US troops are forced to leave the middle east, israelis themselves will pack their bags and leave occupied Palestine all by themselves and there will be no need for war (LOL!).

    He said the solution is very simple: the eviction of US forces, and that the people of the region and the moqawama have a golden opportunity for mass liberation that they must seize upon and do their utmost best to utilize.

    He closed his speech with good wishes to the people and prayers to the martyrs, saying that the return of Palestine to its rightful owners is now within the native’s reach.

    • Thanks: Daniel Rich, L.K
  368. Smith says:

    It’s over.

    Trump has betrayed his base for REAL this time, he doesn’t even want to leave Iraq LOL.

    America is so fucking done.

    • Replies: @RudyM
  369. dickr says:
    @geokat62

    Israel is not an Apartheid state. Apartheid offered blacks self-governing bantustans with economic aid and tax-free incentives for factories to relocate there. Blacks had eyclusive land ownership in these statelets which centered around traditional tribal areas. Many white farmers were forced to sell their farms at poor prices in order to create the bantustans. You can rightly argue that they were too small to be economically viable and could not counteract the pull of urbinasition into the 4 major metropoles of South Africa. I think in fact taht they should have included major cities like Johannesburg, Durban, and also many gold, coal and platinum mines. But in essence they represented a type of “two-state solution“ for South Africa.
    Israel has absoöutely no intention of developing anything like that. Palestinian areas are either open-air detention camps masquerading as townships, or temporary relocation areas awaiting confiscation and ethnic cleansing. Ive been there 4 times, and as a white South African I could see immediately what the score is. No fooling us.
    Comparing Israel to Apartheid South Africa might sound cool propagandistically, coz whites never had an AIPAC, and thus could be villified at will. But its factually incorrect and an intellectual insult to anypne who really understood the original policy of Apartheid.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  370. Rubicon says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    “Cloak and Dagger”
    Your rendition of what happens after this completely illegal assassination seems have much merit in what you write.

    Naturally, the millions of zombified Americans will not awaken from their little lives. They’re long gone as a political force.

    As many have become consciously aware the US military, State Dept. and other D.C. institutions have been infiltrated by Jews with the worst being Zionist Jews.
    Given that influence, we always read Mr. Giraldi with a jaundice eye.

    It’s folks like Max Blumenthal, Aaron Nate, and Mr. Norton who have a deeper gravity in relaying much needed info on Twitter and elsewhere online.

    • Thanks: Cloak And Dagger
  371. Jeffrey Epstein or Soleimani, you are dead if the Deep Tribe wants you dead.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  372. @Winnetou1889

    Jews have been purged from every place they have lived for 3000 years. Tell me why they are periodically purged over centuries in time.

    Every people have been invaded, purged, massacred, expelled, and etc. It just seems worse with Jews because they have a continuous identity going back over 3000 yrs. In contrast, other peoples who also suffered went from one identity to another to another and etc.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  373. @Hong Kong Hibernian

    I am often puzzled by applications of the Troll tag. Lots of them are from LK. How does this Comment deserve to be so tagged?

    • Thanks: Hong Kong Hibernian
    • Replies: @Hong Kong Hibernian
  374. @Priss Factor

    That is the dumbest most insincere thing I have seen you post.

    jews have been booted 109 times (unlike other groups of people) because they are subversive
    nation wrecking assholes.

    It would be impossible to compare the jews to any other group of people on this earth.

  375. geokat62 says:
    @dickr

    Comparing Israel to Apartheid South Africa might sound cool propagandistically… But its factually incorrect and an intellectual insult to anypne who really understood the original policy of Apartheid.

    Thanks for shedding light on the South African experience and for making the important distinctions you’ve made b/w these two states.

    In light of what you’ve said, are you ok if, henceforth, I refer to it as “Apartheid-squared” or “Apartheid-cubed”? If not, what would you recommend in lieu of this?

    • Replies: @dickr
  376. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:

    (The death of General Soleimani,” writes Senator Richard Black, “is a great tragedy. We have killed one of two generals most responsible for defeating ISIS and al Qaeda.”

    So now there is a resurgence of US troops and a parallel resurgence of ISIS

    Mark Taliano is a Research Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG) and the author of Voices from Syria, Global Research Publishers, 2017. Visit the author’s website at https://www.marktaliano.net where this article was originally published.

    Extract from “Statement of Senator Richard H. Black regarding the killing of General Soleimani. (revised 2:00 p.m. January 3, 2020.”

    Arabi Souri, “ISIS Re-Emerging in the Syrian Desert with the US Help” Syria News, 3 January, 2020.
    (https://www.syrianews.cc/isis-re-e) Global Research

  377. Herald says:
    @BL

    But the Iranians were too stubborn and proud to bend the knee.

    The quote says it all. Clearly as a very misguided individual you are best ignored.

  378. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    This is treason.

    I know that you feel the same way.

    Yes I agree…….I am currently in the throes of a primitive desire to see the traitors strung up
    on lamp post all over DC.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  379. Harbinger says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    (Did you even understand anything that I wrote in my reply? You know the part about the last time the US defended herself was sitting the Civil War and the last time Britain did was in the wars between Scotland and England?

    Tell me me what is honourable in being a mercenary, killing innocent men, women and children, who pose you or your nation no harm or ill will?
    This is what armed forces personnel, in the US became after the civil war and the Scottish after Culloden in 1746 (the English already had been for centuries previous).

    The western armed forces are what I call Rothschild assassins. They do not fight for the safety of their nation, far from it. They have endangered every member of their nation, through fighting foreign wars for Israel. While Muslim grooming gangs were raping and murdering young, British girls, the armed forces, were off killing Muslims, in the middle East, in wars for Israel.

    You need to understand one simple thing; the armed forces of the USA do not serve their nation. They serve the globalist bankers, corporations, big pharma and Israel. After all the hullabaloo of Osama Bin Laden, the US forces are still in Afghanistan, costing the US taxpayers trillions, with no enemy to fight. And what do they do there? They are stealing the oil, minerals and guarding the poppy crop, yes, they’re protecting heroin, which will then come into their lands (and Europe’s) to cause harm on their own people they’re supposed to be protecting.

    Do you ever think about this? This is one aspect of what the armed forces are doing abroad.
    There is absolutely no honour in being part of an armed force that invades lands for profit and plunder. There is however when you defend your nation from attack from an invading nation. And again, the last time the US defended her nation was in the American Civil War. Think about that?

    • Agree: Desert Fox, Paul C.
  380. Anon[236] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    What did you do in response to the reality or possibility of call up which might have been for the Vietnam war?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  381. I think the US is about to be exposed as a country that has severely weakened its own military capabilities through 20 years of war. And Trump has certainly lost the Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson wing of supporters he enjoyed in 2016.

  382. For anyone interested in seeing why Iranians and Iraqis are sorta pissed off I suggest you go here and look at what our “leaders” have done. Have been doing for a long time. Syria, Libya, Yemen………

    https://www.bestgore.com/murder/aftermath-general-qasem-soleimani-assassination-baghdad-iraq/

    Lots of graphic photos and video from the scene of the crime. Honestly I wish the MSM would flash these kind of photos across the TV screens for all Americans to see. All the children blown to pieces by our war machine. Photos of all the young Americans blown to bits as well. Seeing the damage these death machines cause is humanizing to say the least.

    Guarantee you these wars wouldn’t last long, or we would at least have an anti-war movement worth speaking of, people in the streets demanding an end to it. This is why these people hate the empire.

    All the red baiters including Mr. Unz. Who see a communist conspiracy behind everything. This is what all your hard work is building up to:

    Pro-Iran Rally outside Trump White House was Organized by Communists

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/pro-iran-rally-outside-trump-white-house-was-organized-by-communists/

    On Saturday hundreds of leftists and pro-Khamenei protesters held a march and rally outside the Trump White House.

    So now anti-war = communist. Just like the DNC loons that equate anti-war with Russia/Putin. You’ve made yourself a useful idiot of the CIA and MIC war machine just like them. Defenders of the status quo. Pat yourselves on the back. Next: anti-war = terrorist, I’m sure most of you would be foolish enough to go with the flow. So keep up with the red baiting, as I’ve been telling you for a while, you’re being used.

    Max Blumenthal of the Grayzone, whos been exposing all the CIA’s BS on Syria, Venezuela, Russiagate, etc was one of the organizers and speakers at the rally.

    • Replies: @RudyM
    , @Johnny Walker Read
  383. RudyM says:
    @Smith

    Yes, unbelievable. More here:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-us-will-not-leave-iraq-unless-billions-air-base-are-repaid

    “We have a very extraordinarily expensive air base that’s there. It cost billions of dollars to build. Long before my time. We’re not leaving unless they pay us back for it.” Trump told the AF1 reporter pool.

    That, however, wasn’t enough, and Trump also made it clear that that in addition to billions in reimbursements, unless the US left on a “very friendly basis”, the US would hit Iraq with “very big” sanctions like “they’ve never seen before ever.”

    “If they do ask us to leave, if we don’t do it in a very friendly basis. We will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever. It’ll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame.”

    What a friend of the Iraqi people! Meanwhile Pompeo has been spreading his drivel about the Iraqis really wanting us to stay.

    • Replies: @Smith
    , @Talha
  384. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Below I shall demonstrate how the Jewish Corporate Media pretends that Netanyahu “stumbled” after he publically acknowledged that Israel is a nuclear power.

    Great find, Chuck!

    It’s important for everyone to see exactly how Nut’nYahoo fumbled:

    “The significance of this project is that we are turning Israel into a nuclear power,” he said, before quickly correcting himself to say “energy power”.

    If I’m not mistaken there are laws on the books that prevent the US from funding any nation that has not signed the NPT but is known to have nukes. Wouldn’t this albeit inadvertent admission by Milkosky trigger this legislation?

  385. JamesinNM says:
    @A123

    Pure BS. Trump just porked the pooch. Perhaps Russia will establish military bases in Iran and place Russian nukes in Syria and Iran to level the playing field.

  386. @renfro

    Yes I agree…….I am currently in the throes of a primitive desire to see the traitors strung up on lamp post all over DC.

    You must be either in a good mood or way too kind [as a person].

    I envision something way more devious. Something bordering on the fringes of the darkest evilness imaginable. It involves copious amounts of time [think days/weeks] and the most heinous torture treatments I can find on the net [there are plenty]. Not to let them rat on one another, just so they know what they’ve done, and call it the ‘Triple A Conundrum

    Aka: America’s Accountability Act…

    Who’s with me?

    • Replies: @renfro
  387. @Iris

    Agressing Iran will bring about Israel’s demise, but that will be only justice.

    Agree 100%. I hope brave Iran does not pay a very high price for this justice, which is long overdue.

    • Agree: annamaria
  388. @Anon

    Those who were called up mostly fall into the category of being innocent dupes. There was practically no possibility of me being called up so I cannot answer your question. I did join in protesting against the war.

  389. @ChuckOrloski

    Here is the rub. On the one hand, Trump amply deserves impeachment for collusion with Bibi’s gang and reckless endangerment of Americans, at home and abroad. On the other hand, impeachment would make Pence president, who is much worse. Not to mention that those DNC left in the running are all worse than Trump. So, looks like we are stuck with the orange piece of shit simply because all the others are even worse pieces of shit. Sad state.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @renfro
  390. Smith says:
    @RudyM

    Welp, that’s too much for me.

    Now I cheer for the death of the Amerijew empire. It’s completely out in the open, they are a goddamn Israeli colony, ONLY Israel is pro the strike, ONLY Israel, and the other jew colony, the UK.

    I don’t like China but goddamn I wish China luck in this shit, America dying is good for the world and americans, unironically.

    Fuck this shit.

  391. RudyM says:
    @redmudhooch

    It’s the Gateway Pundit (more like Zionist Gatekeeper Pundit?), what do you expect? I don’t think the Gateway Pundit takes its cues from Ron Unz, unfortunately.

    I did not follow the link, but some anti-war demonstrations are in fact organized by communists. It’s not unusual. ANSWER seems basically communist to me–is that incorrect? Furthermore, left-dominated anti-war protests have sometimes tried to keep any anti-war protestors from the right away from them, sometimes resorting to force. I personally am hesitant to attend protests organized by groups like ANSWER, not because I am really consider myself on the right, but because I am not strictly on the left, and some of my views do in fact lean right.

    But anyway, we don’t want your revolution. You’re like Christian evangelists skulking outside someone’s door, just not understanding why they don’t want the good news they are bringing. (Oops, that’s going to offend some people, but I just had an odd experience with two different Christian groups showing up at more door on one day, and one young would-be evangelist not knowing what to say when I told her I was not interested.)

    And Blumenthal is a snake who has changed his stripes (not a very good mixed metaphor) regarding Syria. Has he ever properly apologized to those who had a clue what was happening before he did? Has he ever properly apologized for attacking Alison Weir for daring to be interviewed by right-wingers and telling inconvenient truths about the influence of small groups of Zionist Jews?

    • Replies: @L.K
  392. Go Jimmy Dore

    ALL WARS ARE BULLSHIT!
    ALL WARS ARE BULLSHIT!
    ALL WARS ARE BULLSHIT!

    Look at this worthless bitch, a whore of Zion.

  393. lavoisier says: • Website
    @EliteCommInc.

    But I will express, my concerns that some US citizens here are wishing ill on the US. While it is tempting because the consequences of being right about the previous interventions have yielded no “pats on the back” but more intervention, I have to reject that any harm befall my fellow citizens. That even if the bed for fighting has been foolishly made — I am going to defend US servicemen in the fight – and make short work of the matter and stay safe to get home.

    Those who go to war and take up arms against other human beings, particularly in that individual’s home, have a moral obligation to assess the justice of their violence against their fellow man.

    We are long past the time when patriotism can be used to excuse immoral wars. And soldiers who fight these wars must take responsibility for their immoral actions.

    “Support the troops” is a mantra to cover the crimes of our leaders.

  394. niceland says:
    @Castellio

    I am arguing it doesn’t matter what reason you pick, stated or not, real or not, ethical or not, including ‘larger patterns’ of some sort. Whatever they are doing it’s not working. Except perhaps, keeping the gravy train from the U.S. treasury going to War.inc.

    I would appreciate if you could to enlighten me what has really been achieved. Popular theme is this war is run by Zionists, how is it going for them?

    So I am still stuck with the thought Washington is desperate. And killing of the Iran general is act of desperation.

    Ps, even if we take the stated reason for the war at face value I wouldn’t describe the people agreeing with them as ethical. Misguided perhaps.

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova
  395. Just commented on Mike Adams’s site ( ‘ Natural News ‘ ), regarding Alex Jones posting and my ( first ) comment vanished in a couple minutes – because I told them that they act like controlled opposition and propagandists for the Deep State ! Another so called alternative media is ‘ fromthetrenchesworldreport ‘…they censored me long ago…Based on what I see on this site and many others on-line, i think, as an American Citizen born in Eastern-Europe, under Communism, that we are doomed ! They divided us so bad, that most of the sheeple, I mean people can’t distinguish the sheep-dogs from the wolves…Rep vs Dem, Lib vs Cons, blacks vs whites, etc. DIVIDE ET IMPERA ! I came from a Country with one State Party to another one with Two-Heads One Corporate-state Party…HERE, in former ‘ land of the free and home of the brave ‘, now land of the fee and home of the slave, like there, in Romania, is not election, but Selection ! Like Gerald Celente and Paul Craig Roberts and others said…when they can’t control us anymore, they will start a major war ! Like WWI and WWII…If knowledge is power, ignorance is deadly ( ‘ If you expect to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, you expect something what never was and never will be ‘ – Thomas Jefferson ).

    • Replies: @SS-The Independent
  396. sasu says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    That is what I expect. Likely get away with it too, as always, not because they’re evil geniuses but because Americans would rather do anything than face the truth and take action.

  397. @Wizard of Oz

    Thanks for writing that.

    I also wonder about the troll tag. I’ve received them on most of my posts, except the one post where I was actually trolling someone! (I wanted to test limits of the forum’s moderation)

    Oh well.

  398. @SS-The Independent

    ” If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy ” – James Madison

  399. @Priss Factor

    In my opinion Epstein is alive and is in Israel or South Africa.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  400. dickr says:
    @geokat62

    The sin of Apartheid is that it got stuck halfway, before serious land transfers had occurred, giving blacks a fair shot at self-governance. Since it was never properly implemented, blacks, who were urbanising rapidly into traditinally white metropoles, were left as de-facto second class citizens in South Africa proper, which was eventually untenable. There were many reasons for this, some due to the selfishness of whites unwilling to relinquish sufficient land and resources and being dependent on cheap black labour, some due to economic forces which were much stronger, some due to sabotage and external interference. The main forces opposing the federalisation of South Africa were the english speaking former white British subjects, jewish owners of the mines, and the British Crown who wanted the republic as a whole back in the commonwealth. They feared rightly that once the old Boer republics had been reestablished, that they would resist British rule and nationalise the jewish owned mines. The jewish oligarcs were the main beneficeries of black ruled South Africa, coz they skirted nationalisation.
    Israel treats the still remaining Palestinians as people who are awaiting to be ethnically cleansed. They have no interest in a two-state solution coz they want all the land for themselves. It has nothing to do with the original concept of Apartheid, which aimed to restore the Boer republics (stolen from the Boers coz of jewish agents and British coveting the gold and diamonds) and offering the blacks internationally independent homelands based around their tribal areas. Like I say, there were many deficiencies and the areas transferred to blacks were far too small. But the policy was also sabotaged by jewish mine owners, soviet interference and the Britisch crown.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  401. dickr says:

    Gotta say I admired Soleimani for taking down ISIS and bringing in Russians into Syria. Great officer. I always suspected he had a death wish. As a young officer he felt guilty for sending in young Iranians, his friends, into the killing fields of the Iran-Iraq war. It shows he was compassionate. Its a great loss to Iran and the Shia communities in the ME

    • Agree: Marshall Lentini
  402. @AnonFromTN

    Hey AnonFromTN!

    After you didactically opined, “Here is the rub,” am nudged to dim the 🌟 which appears prior to your screen name.

    You sound eerily similar to astrological “Wally” when you wrote, “… impeachment would make Pence president, who is much worse. Not to mention that those DNC left in the running are all worse than Trump.”

    (Zigh) Thanks, anyway!

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  403. barr says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Take it or leave it . If USA is not your first choice in the war then leave America . I understand that
    But there is another piece of advice also- if one cant live by the rules ( with minimum burden,) the world expect ,then may be one should leave the world.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  404. anon[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious

    You said the same thing would happen if Trump moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. Didn’t happen did it?

    Well, it has certainly contributed to a deterioration of our image in the region. Iraq just voted to kick us out of their country. It’s hard to imaging that happening before Trump. It would be wrong to claim that move didn’t have serious negative consequences. People hate us and are willing to defy us like never before.

  405. Zion Don’s sucking up to the jews is giving them the rope they need to hang themselves.

    Only the willfully blind are unable to see what is going on at this point.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  406. FB says: • Website
    @renfro

    Iraq PM Abdul-Mahdi said said yesterday Suleimani was carrying a diplomatic response after he had been asked by Trump to mediate a toning down between Iran and SaudiArabia.

    So it was a set up?

    Yes…that is what the Iraqi PM has said, that Suleimani was bearing a letter for the Saudis…

    Frankly this type of ambush crosses every civilizational norm…Soleimani was traveling publicly and openly when he arrived in Baghdad…he was not even trying to hide…he had nothing to hide from…no sane person could possibly expect such an outrageous trampling of international norms and rules…

    My only question is about Trump’s role in this…was he even in the loop, or was he simply presented with the fait accompli as he was sitting in Mar-a-Lago…?

    His initial tweet of a US flag, and subsequent lack of tweets crowing about how he bagged Soleimani is very uncharacteristic…

    It’s pretty obvious Trump isn’t in charge of anything…no need to go over the evidence, not least the fact that he was immediately overruled about the Syria withdrawal…or the fact of that ‘Anonymous’ oped in the NYT where his team of saboteurs came right out in the open and said they simply undermine everything he tries to do…

    One way or another Trump has been mousetrapped…he would not be the first POTUS…even FDR was mousetrapped into accepting Truman as his veep…who then took the country on a U turn of confrontation with their erstwhile WW2 ally, USSR…

    Many other examples…

    Why is Trump now offering lifting of sanctions if Iran declines to retaliate…?

    It is desperation…he has to own this mess now, regardless of whether he actually pulled the trigger…[plus we recall that last time, in retaliation for the MQ4 UAV downing, he spoiled the plans of the trigger happy gang and tweeted NO at the last minute…maybe this time the same gang didn’t want to take a chance…?]

    This is all speculation of course and we will not likely know the truth for a good long while…but now the die is cast…Iraqis are kicking the US out…which also makes their presence in Syria untenable…

    Iran has already won, without lifting a finger in retaliation…[never push a drunk man…he will fall on his own…]

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @renfro
  407. @ChuckOrloski

    This is the reality. It’s too bad that America came to this, but we can’t change that. Frankly, I don’t see a realistic way out of our conundrum. Stars (in every sense of the word, since you’ve mentioned astrology) don’t help, either.

    BTW, Wally is a one-trick pony, mostly promoting his website. I am not selling anything, so I don’t need to lie.

  408. KA says:
    @Bragadocious

    Iraqi PM is confirming as reported on CNN that there was a meeting to be held that afternoon between Suleimin and him about having a thaw between Saudi and Iran . It is not clear if USA were also looking for an opening to use this opportunity for a cooling down.
    But what is most discomforting that the second well known person who was killed actually worked closely with US against ISIS .

    Now Trump again CNN reporting is threatening Iraq with sanctions if Iraq kicked out USA .

    This man is volatile insecure angry and entitled .

    How did Nero manage to get a horse appointed as senator can be understood from the processes that put Trump on the world stage and I am not just talking about him being just the president.

    It’s called in your face – again not against Iranian only but against Americans against Europeans and against anybody thinking of trusting America in any conflicts . It comes from possession of dangerous toys — ICBM. MOAB and Nuclear bombs .

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  409. Dexter says:
    @Dumbo

    Are some too quick to use this event as an opportunity to blame Trump for every outstanding sin of the world?

    Is anyone really surprised Trump reacted the way he did?

    …or were more people in the world surprised Obama, fresh of his winning of the Nobel Peace Prize, chose to bribe the Iranians to the time of millions of us dollars instead of earning their commitment to peace.

    If you believe the Iranians are good people plagued by an evil and corrupt government, then Donald Trump and millions of Americans agree with you.

    Many may dislike our President; however he represents all of us in a moral stand against the Iranian government and in defense of a free and peaceful Iranian people.

  410. @Dexter

    How is Iran our business? How long does the American public have to hear that dull refrain about “freedom” from people who do not want anything to do with America or anything it has to offer?

    We heard that back in 2003.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Dexter
  411. FB says: • Website
    @BL

    Will you shut up already…?

    Nobody is interested in your idiotic troll bullshit…

    And stop referring to your mickey mouse claptrap as some kind of ‘analysis’…

    You are a hopeless moron…you couldn’t analyze your next bowel movement…never mind contribute anything here…

    Just a for instance…how in the hell would Soleimani manage to gain access to the US embassy in Baghdad and take hostages…?

    That is the most heavily guarded real estate on the planet…with 5,000 US troops in country, plus many more armed security contractors…UAVs, aircraft etc…

    It would require a formidable army…see for instance the Soviet storming of the Afghan presidential palace in 1979…‘Operation Storm 333’…

    Also, the Iraqi militias ARE NOT ‘Soleimani’s militias’…

    The Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), also known as the People’s Mobilization Committee (PMC) and the Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) (Arabic: الحشد الشعبي‎ al-Ḥashd ash-Shaʿbī), is an Iraqi state-sponsored umbrella organization composed of some 40 militias that are mostly Shia Muslim groups, but also include Sunni Muslim, Christian, and Yazidi groups.

    The popular mobilization units as a group was formed in 2014 and have fought in nearly every major battle against ISIL.

    It has been called the new Iraqi Republican Guard after it was fully reorganized in early 2018 by its then-Commander in Chief Haider al-Abadi.

    Former Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi issued “regulations to adapt the situation of the Popular Mobilization fighters,” giving them ranks and salaries equivalent to other branches of the Iraqi military.

    –Popular Mobilization Forces, Wikipedia

    So Iraqi armed forces in the chain of military command are ‘Soleimani’s militias’…and they would somehow disobey orders and try to storm the US embassy…[which would be certain death anyway…]

    You are clearly an ILLITERATE MORON…who is squirting nothing but diarrhea on this discussion board…nothing you have said here has any remote connection to FACTS or basic logic…

  412. Anonymous[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gleimhart Mantooso

    Is the Jewish god himself talking ? Jews worship themselves . They know who are blessed and who are not

    One way to earn the blessing of Jewish god is bring gold silver and honey bread and slaves to the Jews homes . That’s why all the slaves of the Jews are blessed
    “ I will bless who bless thee with money “ so said the Jew God.

  413. By-tor says:
    @anon

    ‘Patriotism’ ( read globalism ) is what all WH occupants display because it is their job but white nationalism? Not hardly. The Trump Admin. is letting or is forced to allow some 4 million brown and black illegals that jumped the border since 2017 stay inside the US while they await their ‘asylum hearings’ in a so-called ‘federal immigration court’. Around 90% do not show up for those hearings thus the numbers of illegals will soar by over 3 million. There are another 25 to 30 million illegal aliens ( I think the number is even higher ) who continue to overstay their 1-year ‘work visas’ or who entered the US illegally and have thus far gotten away with it because no real effort has been made to round them up and get them out of here. Trump caved to the GOP neocon pro-Israeli radicals by attacking Iran while the NYC-Wash., DC Establishment DEM’s real target is Russia.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  414. Meimou says:
    @BL

    I suspect that no one will respond to the substance of my analysis, including you, because if you put yourself in Trump’s position you would have directed the same response he did.

    What was Trumpstein responding to exactly?

    For two days trumpsteins defenders said over and over that this was response but either don’t tell us what it is or they mention the probable Saudi Arabia false flag or blame the dead guy for the embassy nonsense.

    No evidence is provided of course, not that reasonable people would trust it at this point.

    Anyway, if trumpstein even ordered it, he was simply doing the bidding of zog

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  415. renfro says:
    @Daniel Rich

    LOL…..Yea, I can think of a few unmentionable things they deserve.

  416. joe2.5 says:
    @anastasia

    With this assassination, it is apparent that it was Suleimani who attacked those Japansese tankers…

    I see. The logic being: I killed him, therefore he was guilty. That’s called straight thinking.

  417. renfro says:
    @AnonFromTN

    those DNC left in the running are all worse than Trump.

    I will vote if Eliz Warren if she the Dem nominee…..I think she could be the iron hand in the velvet glove on foreign war and political corruption.
    Of course I am usually disappointed in my hopes for people .

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    , @Poco
  418. @anastasia

    Be careful. Your suspicions and innate Anti-Semitism may lead you to conclude that Israel is orchestrating war for its own interests with wanton disregard for American lives.

  419. Talha says:

    I would love to see an analysis by Me. Giraldi of how/if all of this potentially weakens both US and Iranian influence in the area and makes room for Turkey which has been expanding its influence from things like exporting tons of TV shows, to building infrastructure to military cooperation and setting up a rival block to the Saudi-led gulf country coalition.

    I recently read that they’ve been able to pull Jordan away:
    “Top Turkish and Jordanian officials sought to deepen relations in talks on Tuesday, days after the kingdom restored full ties with Ankara’s ally Qatar, in what officials say is a realignment by Jordan away from longtime Gulf partners.”
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-jordan-ties/top-turkish-officials-visit-jordan-in-move-to-deepen-ties-officials-idUSKCN1UI2LZ

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  420. @Dexter

    This shows us the excellent level of propaganda that Tel Aviv is capable of. This is what J. Edgar Hoover called “Masters of Deceit.” This puts the low level trolls to shame. Tell us again how we are fighting to make the world safe for democracy I love to hear the Sirens sing.

    • Replies: @Dexter
  421. MEexpert says:
    @Art

    Trump is falsely flying the American flag – his belligerence begs confrontation – he promises escalation – he is sucking the world into another war for Israel. Everything that follows is on him. All the death and all the blood is on Trump – PERIOD.

    What a great country (MAGA) we live in, governed by thugs. A President, Mr. Sanctions, who wouldn’t know truth if smacked in his face. Who doesn’t want War but only talks about War. No wonder the Indians accused the white man of speaking with a forked tongue. A Vice-President, who has no clue as to what is going on in the world. A Secretary of State, who couldn’t spell diplomacy if his life depended on it. Who looks more like a bar-room bouncer than a diplomat. A Secretary of Defence and the Department of Defence, who only talk about war. An intelligence agency whose job is to assassinate world leaders. Mafia would be proud of these men.

    A great country indeed.

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
  422. MEexpert says:
    @Dexter

    …or were more people in the world surprised Obama, fresh of his winning of the Nobel Peace Prize, chose to bribe the Iranians to the time of millions of us dollars instead of earning their commitment to peace.

    There was no bribe. It was Iran’s money that the US had refused to pay, which Obama finally released.

    • Replies: @Dexter
  423. “You need to understand one simple thing; the armed forces of the USA do not serve their nation. They serve the globalist bankers, corporations, big pharma and Israel. After all the hullabaloo of Osama Bin Laden, the US forces are still in Afghanistan, costing the US taxpayers trillions, with no enemy to fight . . .”

    As I noted previously. We can certainly talk about how we choose to send out men in service — no doubt.

    But they are not making policy choices. The direction of your complaint needs to be aimed at DC and the US public.

    —————————————————————-

    “No doubt you’d mourn over the death of a mafia hitman too, given that he was just doing his duty.”

    if i knew the gentleman personally I might. however, in this instance, there is a very serious categorical distinction one man’s service was to a criminal enterprise and the other is a service to country. Granted it may be service that is abused by the leadership, including the public leadership – we can certainly challenge that abuse. But most of the service is to the defense of nation — and that service is honorable.

    ———————————————————

    “When we get ahold of your kind, you’re going to think Hell has come to Earth.”

    I have seen the landscape and more than once — was very sure that hell was already here. And the murder of some 800,000 children a year is a stark reminder, just how close hell is — already.

    ———————————————————-

    ““Support the troops” is a mantra to cover the crimes of our leaders.”

    The two are not mutual. i can certainly support men in service while challenging the leaderships abuse of the same.

  424. @EliteCommInc.

    I now advise the people I love not to squander their lives and well-being in military service to our immoral government, and this comes as a shock to family and friends, because I was almost always among the most patriotic among them.

    Your morality, ma’am, is cheap. If you really cared about US servicemen, you’d have forewarned them against military service in the first place.

  425. renfro says:
    @FB

    My only question is about Trump’s role in this…was he even in the loop, or was he simply presented with the fait accompli as he was sitting in Mar-a-Lago…?

    What is reported by creditable sources is that ”some of Trumps NSC advisers’ flew to Florida to get him to o.k. the hit on Soleimani .
    I believe this is true because Lindsey Graham is saying he was at Mar la go with Trump and Trump told him about the upcoming strike on Soleimani
    But this assassination was evidently in the works for a good while because remember that Trump made tweets about ”something big happening’ last month.
    So everything indicates that there was a plan being worked on to ‘lure’ Soleimani to some where that he could be killed …that turned out to be Iraq.
    Soleimani , believing he was on a ‘diplomatic mission’ …i.e. …receiving message from the US thru the Iraq PM let his guard down.

    Israel has been trying to kill Soleimani forever, so now they got their rabid orange monkey to do it for them.

    • Replies: @FB
  426. @Dexter

    ‘… Many may dislike our President; however he represents all of us in a moral stand against the Iranian government and in defense of a free and peaceful Iranian people.’

    The sheer malevolent dishonesty of this is staggering.

    • Agree: geokat62, renfro
    • Replies: @Dexter
  427. @Desert Fox

    ‘In my opinion Epstein is alive and is in Israel or South Africa..’

    Epstein’s wasn’t important enough to be allowed to live. It was safer and easier to kill him.

    Ditto for those black jail guards who think they’re going to get a big payoff for staying away while Epstein was killed. They’re going to be killed too. Much safer that way.

    • Disagree: Desert Fox
  428. @Philip

    The blood of the Americans, Iranians and Iraqis who will die in the next few weeks is clearly on Donald Trump’s hands as this war was never inevitable and served no U.S.

    I agree with the statement, however partially. The blood of the innocents are on the zionists those in-charge of trump. In fact, trump is just another puppet in the long list of US presidents before him.

  429. Gilles says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Will you shed a tear when it vanishes?

    No.

  430. @Jeff Stryker

    ‘We heard that back in 2003.’

    This is making 2003 look like a good idea.

  431. Wally says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Indeed, you know better than to debate me on your childish ‘Nazi’ fantasies.

    Here you go, Comrade Dumsky, just a taste:

    NASA Data Proves Trump Right to Exit Paris Climate Accord: https://www.prisonplanet.com/nasa-data-proves-trump-right-to-exit-paris-climate-accord.html
    Yes, Trump Is Winning: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2017/10/16/yes_trump_is_winning_423863.html
    President Donald Trump has appointed more judges in less than three years to the circuit courts than any of his two-term predecessors going back to Ronald Reagan.: https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/08/donald-trump-circuit-court-judges/
    Trump’s boost to economy can’t be denied: https://www.prisonplanet.com/in-year-of-chaos-trumps-boost-to-economy-cant-be-denied.html
    “According to the official numbers (same sources that Obama used), the economy is growing moderately well, compared with the weak growth during the Obama administration. The gross domestic product expanded at an annual rate of 3.3 percent in the third quarter in 2017. That followed the second quarter’s 3.1 percent.”
    European Populist Leaders Praise Trump, Call For End Of EU: http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/17/european-populist-leaders-praise-trump-call-for-end-of-eu/
    Trump delivering on vow to shrink govt…: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-trump-era-is-changing-the-federal-bureaucracy/2017/12/30/8d5149c6-daa7-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?utm_term=.d1bdb32f76f7
    DHS: Deportations of Illegal Aliens Living Across U.S. Increase 37 Percent Under Trump:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/29/dhs-deportations-of-illegal-aliens-living-across-u-s-increase-37-percent-under-trump/

  432. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    In a bizarre way, Trump is more honest at least than the Clintons and Obamas. They would pretend they respected sovereignty, international law and human rights while doing the opposite.
    With Trump, the beast is laid bare.

  433. It’s odd to me that folks don’t seem to ‘get it’.

    As Americans revel in the awesome power of their all knowing government’s power, I simply ask that if a foreign power, Russia perhaps, effected an assassination of our Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, a man as charismatic George Patton and was seen by Americans as the probable next President of the united States, while he visited Europe on NATO business, how might we react?

  434. Darymple says:
    @TimeTraveller

    Kushner knows all, and Pompous pulled the trigger. On the other hand, Trump was just stone cold sober at another Caligula party in Mar-o-Lago, and it seemed like a slick con-man move at the time.

  435. The assassination of General Suleimani, an official in charge of the old guard who in Iran’s power structure is more important than the Iranian president, is an act of recklessness that is bound to put the world on the path of WWIII.
    The Shiites have still have not overcome the emotional trauma of the assassination of their revered leader Imam Al Hussein thirteen centuries after the fact. Martyrdom for those people is the very essence of their existence. Suleimani, being a devout Moslem and a man of great devotion to his cause, coupled with his charisma and his down to earth approach, is considered by most Shiites and many rebels against Zionist colonialism as the closest reincarnation of the martyred Imam Hussein. Iranians simply cannot turn the other cheek. Their nation/ empire is more than 2500 years old whereas the American empire is barely 250 years old. This is going to be a war between a David and Goliath, with the Iranian David resorting to wisdom and asymmetrical warfare with patient planning against a Goliath that is robotically controlled by the Zionists and their lackeys.
    For Trump to send two diplomatic emissaries, an Arab and a Swiss, to try to extend an olive branch, both plainly rebuked by the Iranian leadership, is proof to the emotional stress that Iranians are suffering from this act of war.
    Trump might be a wily, crafty businessman, but his knowledge of history is almost nil. He is definitely kowtowing to his Zionist masters first among them Jared Kushner, but I fear he has set himself on a path that could make or break American diplomacy in the Middle East irrespective of wether he will be in the White House after the 2020 elections. Trump who is at heart an American isolationist has boxed himself into a conflict with the Iranians that could force his hand into an outright confrontation with Iranians who will prove to be the most formidable foe compared to all other U.S. military engagements after 9/11. Trump could have set himself for the worst security crisis in this volatile area of the world, a dream for the Israelis and a nightmare for the Americans. Trump or his deep state handler(s) are playing Russian roulette while the master of the deal has put himself on the defensive trying to guess the Iranian reaction during an election year. The moderates in Iran are toast while the conservatives are getting a field day rallying the people around their cause. Let us hope Trump is a good surfer for he is about to ride a tsunami rather than a wave.

  436. Realist says:
    @Bookish1

    Rare exceptions

    Citations?

  437. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @anastasia

    As anon pointed out I may have missed your subtle sarcasm here. If you were actually being sarcastic. If so than I’ll introduce Iran’s other crimes since according to Pence who’s IQ is probably less than the letters in his name is saying they were responsible for 9/11 and I’m sure next they’ll be saying they engineered the Kennedy assassination and that their actions led to WW II and possibly the Biblical Flood but I guess we’ll have to wait for those announcements.

  438. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Dexter

    Dexter I suggest you remove that cranium blocking your rectum. Either that or do some 8200 refresher course so you don’t look so much like Hasbera Clown.

    • Replies: @Dexter
  439. ivan says:
    @jack daniels

    What would you have him do? Bring a circus to town to make it more interesting?

  440. @Realist

    Don’t call Ron Unz a Jew.

    • Replies: @Realist
  441. Realist says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    Don’t call Ron Unz a Jew.

    You mean you don’t know Unz is a Jew???

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  442. @nickels

    The tragedy that befell Russia was neither necessary nor inevitable.

  443. Dexter says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Freedom?

    Freedom has been a tenet of the GOP platform for as long as the concept of liberty and our support for the ending of slavery and the Democrat support of slavery in the United States.

    Trump has the legal authority to respond with military force in response to an open, unprovoked attack on sovereign US territory and American citizens.

    If Iranian military forces and known terrorists attacked an air port facility in Rhode Island, would the President be justified in responding to their hostility?

    Iran continues to sponsor terrorism and violate terms of nuclear agreements with the UN and the world’s nuclear countries. The President is more than legally justified in striking Iran.

    Supporting Iran over the US just because you dislike Trump? I hope not.

    • Replies: @ivegotrythm
  444. @Just passing through

    He’s breached the agreement between Iran and Ugly Shitty Aggressor making it null and void. To say there exists an agreement that the said Ugly Shit has 12 months to leave is … there doesn’t.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  445. @Realist

    He says he knew nothing about Judaism when he began reading Shahak. His grannie dragged him to a sinner gog a few times and he thought it was stupid. A person who was never in the Jewish nonsense and exposes it as nonsense and worse is not a Jew. Don’t cage him.

    • Replies: @Realist
  446. KA says:

    There are pro war pro Israel “pro “America”( does it exists ?) who want anti war out , leave US. May be they should take a vote of all Americans and decide.
    Iraq just did may be they should honor the vote and be encouraged for withdrawal from Iraq by the only democracy in the world ( I mean ME) -Israel.

  447. Mahdi says:

    Dear respectful nation of America, in particular the independent academia, kindly state your postion and views towards Mr. Trump action. Does Trump truly reresent the American people? Do you agree with USA presence in Iraq?
    For 35 years USA backed up the most brutal dictator of Iraq, i.e., Sdadam Hossein, then they backed up Taleban in Afghanistan, then ISIS or daesh and Abubakr Baghdadi. Once the nature and origin of these terrorist parties became clear to people of the world, then USA government used it as an excuse to bring full millitary force to pretend they suppress these trained terrorists. This obviously is an offense to people’s intelligence. We refer you to recent presidential debates about who invented ISIS , the most radical and brutal terrorist party under the name of Islam. Now, who is general Soleimani and why people loved him around the world? he is the one who irradicated ISIS or daesh, trump killed this man!

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  448. Mahdi says:

    General Soleimani in a few words,
    1. Most honored and most popular highest ranking not just iran, but in the entire middle east region.
    2. The key most prominent architect of struggle with ISIS (daesh) .
    3. Lived very simple to feel the poor people so he defend their rights honestly.

  449. Mahdi says:

    If it were not for Suleimani, ISIS would have showed the cut head on the streets of France or Germany or elsewhere. Just look at the funeral in Iraq and Iran to find out how much interest they has suleimani. Of course, not with the media glasses but The wide pictures illustrate everything.

  450. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Hey John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan!

    I respect your comment: “The tragedy that befell Russia was neither necessary nor inevitable.”

    Nonetheless, President Vladimir Putin’s Russia must deal with and upon occassion, must accomodate Jewish oligarchs who wield influence that is characterized by Atlanticist Integrationists’ economic design, and subsequent promotion of Israel’s expansionist & Middle East hegemon goals.

    Of course, US Jewish oligarchs and powerful Israel lobbies have “inevitably”😟 infested Washington D.C. halls of power, and regrettably in hindsight, such awful coup was unnecessary but happened without major American patriotic resistance.

    At present, Kosher Nostra oligarchs from Odessa, Ukraine have established a strong base in Brooklyn’s Trump Tower. Subsequently, America is the venue where Jewish Bolshevism gets a comeback opportunity, and Shabbos goy Trumpstein’s Party is now inclined to blame Iran for doing 9/11. 👺

    For the sake of objectivity, linked below & fyr is an article written by the esteemed Paul Craig Roberts, titled “Putin’s Hour at Hand.” There’s chatter floating around which suggests Russia shall do everything in its power to prevent a “Fire & Fury” ZUS/Israel attack upon Iran. 🙌

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/01/04/putins-hour-is-at-hand/

    On surface, I want to believe & trust in President Putin’s better political & humane instincts, but for diabolical internal Rus & international Supremacist Jewry restraint with which he must inevitably deal.
    Meanwhile, thanks John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, especially because tomorrow is Russian Christmas.

    .

    • Replies: @FB
  451. FB says: • Website
    @renfro

    …Lindsey Graham is saying he was at Mar la go with Trump and Trump told him about the upcoming strike on Soleimani…

    And we should believe anything Graham says, why…?

    As for NSC staff flying down to convince Trump of the hit…this is again unverifiable…it can just as easily be that they traveled down to inform him of the hit having been done…

    I find Trump’s post-hit tweet behavior very odd…the flag with no text attached…ie speechless…

    Then he is practically begging the Iranians not to retaliate and even promising to lift sanctions…

    None of that makes any sense…if the plan was to force Iran down, then sanctions are much more powerful than the life of a single general, which really does nothing to weaken Iran…

    And then there is the fact of Iraq now being fed up and asking the US to leave…the whole thing makes no sense, from beginning to end…the Nazi-like disproportional retribution over the death of a single contractor…not to mention that bombing those Iraqi militias is bombing Iraqi REGULAR TROOPS because that’s what they are…

    The US has no legal right to do any of that in Iraq…including the hit that not only took out the Iranian general, but also the Iraqi PMU second-in-command…

    Even by US standards, this entire episode…from beginning to end…is incredibly stupid and inexplicable…

    The US’ days in the Middle East are now numbered…so much influence has evaporated in the last few dozen hours that it is basically a disaster for the empire…a huge weakening…

    How can this stupidity be explained…?

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @renfro
  452. Realist says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    A person who was never in the Jewish nonsense and exposes it as nonsense and worse is not a Jew.

    Wow, your ignorance is overwhelming. You are conflating Jewish religion with Jewish ethnicity. Unz’s mother and father were Jewish. Sammy Davis Jr was as black as Ron Unz is Jewish…it’s in his DNA.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  453. @barr

    I’ve got a better idea: why don’t you move to Israel?

  454. @renfro

    I wouldn’t waste my time; she’s just another fake leftist.

  455. FB says: • Website
    @ChuckOrloski

    Chuck…I just read the PCR piece [as I read every one of his pieces]…

    He is unfortunately off the mark here…as he has been for years, calling for a more muscular Russian stance towards the US…then when it never happens, he is inevitably disappointed and bitter…

    I love PCR…truly a great great man…and I understand his projections upon VVP as the white knight that’s going to save the world…

    But the world just doesn’t work that way…and VVP has to think of his own people first…

    Here’s the thing that PCR perhaps misses…the US has made a shitload of trouble for itself as things stand…I don’t see that they are going to launch a war against Iran…but I could be wrong…the US could certainly mount some kind of cruise missile barrage, although I doubt that they will attempt to take on Iran’s air defenses with a large air attack…Iran would be capable of downing enough US jets to make that very costly…

    And after that, Iran will still be standing [although surely beat up somewhat…just like Yugoslavia in 1999, in fact even less so]…

    And the US is still going to need to leave Iraq and will have made its pariah status as INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINAL NUMBER ONE even worse…

    The long-term repercussions of such a limited pummeling of Iran [as the US is able to technically dish out] are going to be worse for the US than for Iran…

    So there is really no need for Russia to come running to Iran’s aid, Iran can take care of itself…I do agree with PCR that Russia will start supplying Iran with top notch weaponry…including the S400, plus topline fighter jets and other goodies…but this will happen only later this year [October I believe] as the UNSC arms embargo against Iran expires…

    At the same time, Russia and China will run cover for Iran as it completely backs out of the last of its commitments to the JCPOA…the other parties, namely the Euro puppets cannot trigger the ‘kickback’ UN sanctions without the consent of Russia and China…

    So we are in for the long haul here…the US is now toast in the Middle East…they will have to get out of Iraq…which means they will have to leave Syria too…but they may stir up a lot of trouble with the Iraqi and Syrian Kurds rather than depart peacefully…

    But for all the kicking and screaming, and biting and pulling hair…the US has lost the Middle East…it’s been a long time coming, but the writing has been on the wall for a while now…at least since the aggression started in 2001…

  456. KA says:
    @BL

    You are contradicting yourself . Yes Trump has right to withdraw But then the consequences of Ian reaction to withdrawing should be accepted by him and not by Iran – For reminder : consequence was Iran refused to meet under the oppressive conditions Trump was asking for a meeting

    ‘ Yes an essential context to understanding….”
    WTF?
    Trump imposed sanctions again and again from 2017 until middle of 2019 because in Dec 2019 Iran was planning take over of US embassy. !!!!
    Get your Zio Hasabar checked by a fifth grader .

    Just this morning 15 min ago, Zio friendly NPR was saying that Iraq PM was in contact with Trump administration, Trump having earlier asking the PM to facilitate some kind of understanding about decreasing the tension between Iran and US. Trump administration was aware of the fact that Suleiman was on his way to meet with the PM and discuss the concerns expectations and possible agreements . Saudi also was part of the process.

    Let me tell you ,treachery has no honor . This is nothing but imbecile exercise of power and robust expression of treachery .

    It is possible though that Trump has been blindsided and forced to accept the responsibility or forced to make a bombastic claim. Otherwise ,his lack of controlovrr his administration will again would have been exposed .
    Dinausor Adelshon is happy ,very happy.

    • Replies: @BL
  457. @redmudhooch

    I don’t have to “peek around any corners” to find communism in America. If it were anymore up close and personal it would be sitting on my face.
    You have two wings of Judaism(communism) in America; Right wing Zionism and left wing Bolshevism.
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/01/chabad-trump-family-cult.html

  458. Hey Brat geokat!

    Today on Russian Christmas Eve, 🙏, there’s lots of available & boastful information on Trumpstein’s mafia-killing of General Soleimani.

    In contrast, I have a question, strictly for you, essentially because of the sleeping and deceived nature of zionized fellow “Homelanders.”

    Why no information on how the ZUS contractor in Iraq was killed? 🤔 Evidently, the outlaw assassins write the Israel-approved history.

    Thanks, geo.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  459. Bookish1 says:
    @Winnetou1889

    First, I am not German but american. Why have jews been kicked in the but every place they have ever went you ask. Obviously they are doing something to piss people off.

    • Replies: @JoaoAlfaiate
  460. @Gleimhart Mantooso

    I don’t care about the dead Muslim who got killed, since that’s the only kind of “good Muslim” you’re ever going to find, but I would still prefer for the U.S. to get out of the Middle East altogether.

    Jesus Christ died for all men, and all Christians are required to love their neighbour.

    • Replies: @Onebornfree
  461. @Bookish1

    If, over time, I had 19 neighbors, all of whom hated me, I’d look to my own deportment rather than claim, for example, as David Grun (aka David Ben Gurion) did, that the Poles “imbibe Antisemitism in their Mother’s milk.”

  462. @Mahdi

    Americans don’t really have a clue what their government does and it is only due to the rise of the internet and alternative media outlets like Unz, amongst many others, that the small minority of us do know about the disgraceful actions of Western governments who although elected by us the people, will merely play to the crowd and do the opposite of what they say, relying upon media outlets like Fox and CNN to spread Fake News.

    Westerners minds have become dulled and ossified by Hollywood, they see things in ‘good guy vs bad guy…with America always being the good guy’, most will flip out when you tell them the truth about ISIS and Al-Queda in that they were merely Western proxy forces. They will either start calling you conspiracy theorist or just ‘downvote’ your comment as they have no suitable rebuttal.

    Don’t expect any meaningful opposition soon, the best we currently have are the usual band of anti-war Leftists who argue against war from a humanitarian standpoint (I too agree with this sentiment) but not an pro-American interest standpoint which is crucial, they are unable to lift the veil on the Jews and Zionsist who control US foreign policy and as such their efforts are met with derision from right-wingers who call them names like ‘terrorist-appeaser’.

    Not that opposition would make much of a difference, ZOG will do what it wanted to do, Iran is going to be taken out bar a massive armed uprising by the Western populace.

  463. Anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harbinger

    Robin Cook, not Roger Cook.

  464. Trump’s “incestuous relationship with the Jewish family” explains his actions and behavior. No one married into a Jewish family, who takes orders directly from Benjamin Netayahu and accepts bribes from America’s #1 Jewish gambling rackateer, Sheldon Adelson, should expect anything different from what they’re getting.

  465. “Lets home it is the end of American imperial ambitions!!??”

    more than that it is time for Americans go out into their streets in their masses to leave Trump with no doubt about that..and no way to sequeez out of pulling America out of the world as it has been for so long, home to take care of itself, coming back to relate to the world peacefully an in mutuality of benefit.

  466. vot tak says:

    Iraq Limits US-Led Coalition’s Ground, Air Movements After Soleimani Killing – Reports

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001061077957576-iraq-limits-international-coalitions-ground-air-movements-after-soleimani-killing—reports/

    “The Iraqi authorities have begun the preapartions for removing US troops from the country, Abdul-Karim Khalaf, a security spokesman for Iraq’s prime minister, told reporters on Monday.

    He said that the US-led international coalition will be allowed to consult, arm and train Iraqi military personnel and security forces, but the troops will be removed.

    Khalaf added that the Iraqi government had limited the movements of foreign forces on the ground and in the air.”

  467. vot tak says:

    AOC, Ilhan Omar Accuse Trump of Tweeting ‘War Crimes’ Threats Against Tehran

    https://sputniknews.com/us/202001061077953743-aoc-ilhan-omar-accuse-trump-of-tweeting-war-crimes-threats-against-tehran/

    “Two Democratic Representatives – Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) and Ilhan Omar, on Saturday accused Trump on Twitter of threatening to commit war crimes against Iran.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    @AOC

    This is a war crime.

    Threatening to target and kill innocent families, women and children – which is what you’re doing by targeting cultural sites – does not make you a “tough guy.”

    It does not make you “strategic.”
    It makes you a monster.

    Ilhan Omar

    @IlhanMN

    The President of the United States is threatening to commit war crimes on Twitter.

    God help us all!

    Ilhan Omar

    @IlhanMN

    This is a major test for our country.

    Will we allow decades of executive overreach and militarism to continue? Or will Congress step in and perform our Constitutional role to stop a war? The world is watching.

    Bernie Sanders

    @SenSanders

    I am introducing a bill with Rep. Khanna to stop Donald Trump from illegally taking us to war against Iran.

    It’s working-class kids who will have to fight and die in a disastrous new Middle East conflict—not the children of billionaires. https://twitter.com/RepRoKhanna/status/1213254977810059267

    Rep. Ro Khanna

    @RepRoKhanna

    Congress has the power to change course and stop a war with Iran. @SenSanders and I are introducing legislation to block Pentagon funding for any unilateral actions this president takes to wage war against Iran without Congressional authorization.

    Enough.

    ​Speaking to MSNBC on Friday, Khanna noted that the bill will “cut off any funding for offensive action against Iran or Iranian officials.”

    Trump’s tweeted threats were widely met with scorn, as the president appeared to be threatening to commit war crimes while breaking UNESCO’s 1954 Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Heritage in the Event of Armed Conflict, which rules out the intentional targeting of cultural heritage sites.”

  468. I continue to believe that Trump was informed post-facto about the murder, as I asserted here at #13:

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-soleimani-assassination/?showcomments#comment-3641408

    This little tidbit of news supports that opinion:

    Trump’s Iran director of the National Security Council is out
    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-iran-director-of-the-national-security-council-is-out/

    President Donald Trump’s Iran director of the National Security Council, Richard Goldberg, is leaving, Bloomberg News announced late Friday.

    The position was created by former National Security Adviser John Bolton to counter what Bolton saw as a desire by some in Trump’s admin to weaken the “maximum pressure” campaign against Iran, noted Bloomberg’s Jennifer Jacobs.

    “Tension over that issue flared in March as the administration mulled whether to extend waivers allowing Iran to sell a limited amount of oil. The waivers were eventually ended in May,” the report said. “That fight was only one of the administration’s internecine battles related to Iran and underscored the influence wielded by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, the think tank where Goldberg previously worked, in pushing for a tougher line against Iran.”

    • Thanks: The Scalpel
  469. vot tak says:

    The trump regime is the most israeli dominated regime to ever occupy the white house. Don’t ever forget that, america.

    Trump Administration Attempted to Block Iraqi Parliament Vote on Expelling Foreign Troops – Report

    https://sputniknews.com/us/202001061077954976-trump-administration-attempted-to-block-iraqi-parliament-vote-on-expelling-foreign-troops—report/

    “The Trump administration attempted to thwart the efforts of the Iraqi parliament to expel foreign military forces from the country in the wake of the killing of a top Iranian military commander and an Iraqi militia leader by US forces inside Iraqi territories, Axios reported on Sunday, citing two unnamed US officials and an Iraqi official.

    The three officials told Axios that the Trump administration tried to convince the Iraqi government to block its parliament from passing the resolution, which will force the US military out of Iraq. One US official reportedly said that the exit of US troops from the country would “be catastrophic for Iraq”.

    “It’s our concern that Iraq would take a short-term decision that would have catastrophic long-term implications for the country and its security. But it’s also what would happen to them financially if they allowed Iran to take advantage of their economy to such an extent that they would fall under the sanctions that are on Iran,” the official reportedly said. “We don’t want to see that. We’re trying very hard to work to have that not happen.”

    Axios also cited an unnamed senior Iraqi official who claimed that many Kurdish and Sunni members of the Iraqi parliament, who are supporting the US presence in Iraq, did not attend the parliament vote on expelling all foreign military forces, including US-led international coalition, from Iraqi territories.

    “This is a temporary victory for the parties which are pro-Iranian, but it’s also a clear message from the Sunnis and from the Kurds [who didn’t vote] and from some Iraqi Shia, for the Americans to tell them we want you to stay in Iraq,” the Iraqi official said, according to the website.”

    Trump Says US Will Not Leave Iraq Until Baghdad Pays for American Air Base, Threatens Sanctions

    https://sputniknews.com/us/202001061077954887-trump-says-us-will-not-leave-iraq-until-baghdad-pays-for-american-air-base-threatens-sanctions/

    “S President Donald Trump was referring to the Balad military base that houses US forces some 50 miles north of Baghdad.

    “We have a very extraordinarily expensive airbase that’s there. It cost billions of dollars to build. Long before my time We’re not leaving unless they pay us back for it […] We will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever. It’ll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame”, Trump said Sunday, while traveling back to DC from Florida.

    Trump also suggested that his administration “may discuss” releasing intelligence related to Soleimani’s assassination and reiterated his recent threat to attack Iranian cultural sites.

    “They’re allowed to kill our people. They’re allowed to torture and maim our people. They’re allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up our people. And we’re not allowed to touch their cultural site? It doesn’t work that way”, Trump said.”

    Pure likud zionazi-(very) gay terrorism. This shows the mentality behind the israeloamerican assets destroying cultural sites throughout the region. The sods who destroyed Palmyra. As long as it isn’t a Jewish cultural site, it is fair game for these likud/whahabi/nazi freaks. With these threats trump not only shows his mind operates at the subhuman level of likud and al qaida terrorists, it shows that these freaks are all the same non human creatures. They are aligned not just by greed and buggery, but spiritually and philosophically, also.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Iris
    , @Art
  470. A martyr who welcomed death:

    Nasrallah also said that he warned Soleimani of the risk of assassination one day before the commander was killed in Baghdad by the U.S. strike.

    Nasrallah said he warned Soleimani in Beirut on New Year’s Day that “American media” was “priming for” his “assassination.”

    “Of course he laughed and told me, ‘I hope so, pray for me,’ ” Nasrallah said, according to Reuters.

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/476839-hezbollah-leader-says-us-forces-will-go-home-in

  471. “The United States is now at war with Iran in a conflict that could easily have been avoided and it will not end well.”

    Are you going to put this in your calendar so we can all review your assessment in 3-5 years and see how you did?

    Unfortunately, most punditry seems to be entirely performative, like some weird performance art.

  472. Dexter says:
    @ivegotrythm

    Antisemitism is not an argument.
    The Iranian government are state sponsors of terrorism.

    • Replies: @ivegotrythm
    , @annamaria
  473. annamaria says:
    @anastasia

    Hey, Sara, this is about you and other Israel-firsters (comment #181):

    The most vicious attack against me and my country I’ve witnessed came at the hands of young American Jews from NYC. I’d been back for a few years from a combat role in Vietnam and, at a party in our building where my wife and I were the only non-Jews, a bunch of Jews who’d just returned from fighting for Israel in some capacity during its ‘73 war went after me with a hatred that I can still feel to this day. They were saying that American soldiers suck and how much better Israelis were in the field. It ended when a woman no less yelled at me, “All we want is your money.” This from supposed Americans. As they like to say, “We Jews shit on you Christians.” If you haven’t worked on Wall Street with them, this may seem academic. The hate is palpable.

  474. Momus says:
    @geokat62

    As S of D Esper succinctly put it ‘anyone entering the US embassy in Baghdad (or elsewhere in the Mid East) for the wrong reasons will run into a buzz saw’.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  475. “Your morality, ma’am, is cheap. If you really cared about US servicemen, you’d have forewarned them against military service in the first place.”

    I am not sure I have been referred to as ma’am before, that’s interesting.

    No. I would forewarn them about what lies in store as potentials as members of the military. That choice is theirs. Though I support their choices unless, what they intend is either illegal or immoral. Service is not immoral unless their intent is for the express purpose of harm. I have not known anyone of that intent, in my view.

    Sure there are a lot of potential pitfalls in serving. And even peace time service is loaded with all kinds of unexpected’s, including an unsavory sort of service members masquerading around as men of honor — internal petty, jealous, politics abounds. And always be ware the latino service member willing to tear out your spine to earn a few points. Those natural conservatives. laugh. good grief.

    but service (sacrifice) is honorable and I encourage those who so desire to do so —-

    As for lousy choices regarding how we use men of service (sacrifice), that’s on the leadership, including the civilian population.

    ——————————————————-

    As for the status quo: the advocates for needless intervention have the executive right where they want him.

  476. annamaria says:
    @Iris

    “As for the murder of the late Solaimani, which I have no doubt was primarily driven by Israeli agenda, it is creating popular unity in Iran … Only short-sighted Hasbara trolls can think that the Solaimani murder is a success.”
    — Agree. The dishonest and dishonorable Israeli and American “deciders” have miscalculated precisely because of the deficiency of honor. Fools.

    “Iran is not like the US, who let Israel murder its citizens in total impunity during 9/11”
    — A very sad truth. The US brass is a collection of pompous cowards. The US Congress is permanently for sale.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  477. More evidence to support my assertions above in #13:

    Defense secretary’s chief of staff to step down
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/06/defense-secretary-chief-of-staff-094717

    Eric Chewning, chief of staff to Defense Secretary Mark Esper, is stepping down at the end of the month, the latest in a series of high-profile civilians to leave the Pentagon
    :
    :

    • Replies: @renfro
  478. Momus says:
    @vot tak

    Lols, it will be the Iranians who depart Iraq en masse not the US- and many more of them will be in wooden boxes as was Soleimani.

    The Iraqui’s don’t want a war between Iran and the US in their country. They will back the strong horse, not Iran who has nothing for them but oats that have passed through.

    • Replies: @vot tak
  479. annamaria says:
    @KA

    “52 targets”
    — Interesting number — there is the same number (52) of the main Jewish American organizations: https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Conference_of_Presidents_of_Major_Jewish_Organizations

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  480. The voices from European leaders on the Soleimani murder have been quite muted:

    Boris Johnson’s silence on Suleimani assassination is ‘deafening’ say critics
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/04/boris-johnson-attacked-for-silence-on-iran-assassination

    Boris Johnson was facing growing criticism on Saturday night for failing to cut short his Caribbean holiday as the Middle East faced one of the gravest crises since the Iraq war in 2003.

    • Replies: @Talha
  481. just an FYI,

    There’s a reason all the networks are on the war wagon —- because no one profits from war as much as the media.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  482. In re Resistance countermeasures for US crimes against humanity and peace, Nasrallah in his speech invoked Moghniyeh as a martyr along with Soleimani. You will recall Moghniyeh as CIA assassin Bill Buckley’s custodian in detention. Message to US forces: maybe you shoulda thought it through when you made a policy of the crime against humanity of systematic and widespread torture. All you poor dumb cannon fodder who get tricked into killing and then captured, you’re not gonna like it one bit.

    https://xymphora.blogspot.com/2020/01/ending-american-military-presence-in.html

  483. Dexter says:
    @MEexpert

    Not exactly. Much of the money belonged to the Shah and not the illegal regime overthrowing him. Further, many on both sides of the aisle argue Obamas actions were clearly an illegal hostage swap under US law. This is why Obama purchased foreign currency and delivered it directly in order to avoid any banks, the law and congressional scrutiny.

  484. Talha says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    This is good – now if we can just convince them to also not supply soldiers for US forays into that region, that will be a most welcome result. I’m all for complete disengagement from that part of the world for all Western nations. The less they speak about it, the better – the less they do about it, far better.

    If they want to redraw straight-line borders that some European dude with a handlebar mustache drew decades ago, whatever. Just keep buying oil and gas from whoever sells it and leave them to figure out this mess on their own.

    US and UK soldiers won’t get killed in Iraq…if they aren’t in Iraq. It’s an idiot-proof solution.

    I also mentioned this under one of AE’s threads – I wonder if US military strategists have thought this all through – I wonder if Mr. Giraldi (beign ex-US intelligence) knows how they calculate in Iran’s neighbors in the mix:

    But, suffice to say, that nation – especially the Western regions have people alive that grew up during that war [Iran/Iraq War] and know what level of sacrifice is required to follow things through (there were certain battles where the Iranians lost twice as many as the Iraqis and still came out on top – the city of Khoramshur is a good example). And they have been under sanctions for a long time so they are used to doing without.

    Another thing that many people do not calculate is that there are another 15-20 million Shiahs across the border in Pakistan and there is a marja (top level Shiah Ayatollah) that lives in Punjab. While the Pakistani government has now officially announced it will remain neutral in case of a war between the US and Iran, that actually does more for Iran than anything else. They won’t have to worry about that border and likely will be happy to receive Shiah volunteers in the case that the marja in Pakistan tells them to go and fight. There is also a possibility that some Shiahs in Pakistan already follow a marja in Iran or Iraq.

    Afghanistan will likely be used as a launchpad against Iran, but that also risks Iran helping the Taliban in return to help cut supply lines. Outbound supply shipments coming from Baku, Azerbaijan could easily be targeted as well. A besieged field army in hostile territory without adequate supplies? A reasonable possibility*.

    Don’t know if there is still an airbase in Turkmenistan or what that country has said its official stance is.

    *Which also brings about this unfortunate possibility:

    Peace.

  485. @FB

    Agree. A far sighted analysis.

  486. Onebornfree says: • Website
    @Tsar Nicholas

    “Jesus Christ died for all men, and all Christians are required to love their neighbour.”

    Tell that to Trump, the , er, “Christian”. 😂

    Regards, onebornfree

  487. Dexter says:
    @Colin Wright

    So terrorism against Americans and the US ceases to be illegal, immoral and unwarranted when Trump or another Republican is President? Are you arguing beheadings are merely paper cuts when Republicans argue against them?

    An examination of dishonesty is certainly no place for Democrats, socialists and Obama/Clinton leftovers after the investigations of the past 4 years revealed the illegal and unethical activity of the State Department, FBI, CIA, Treasury Dept, and potentially more in an attempt to block a legal US federal election and overthrow the results should Trump win.

    When it comes to dishonesty I wouldn’t go there.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  488. BL says:
    @KA

    You are contradicting yourself . Yes Trump has right to withdraw But then the consequences of Ian reaction to withdrawing should be accepted by him and not by Iran – For reminder : consequence was Iran refused to meet under the oppressive conditions Trump was asking for a meeting

    There’s no point in speaking of “rights.” As I’ve explained, I don’t have any difficulty in understanding Iran’s decision not to negotiate with Trump. Like China on trade, given the spectacular gains Iran was gifted by the Obama Administration, in any negotiation it was a question of how much of its new found regional dominance it was going to lose. Thus waiting him out in close coordination with the Democrats who promised to remove him from office by any means necessary made sense.

    Nor am I surprised that Iran decided it needed a plan to guarantee Trump’s removal in the 2020 election just as conventional wisdom had come around to figuring out that he was on track to reelection.

    Just this morning 15 min ago . . .

    Yes. First, Soleimani was purportedly in Bagdad for some funerals. Now, it turns out he was there to pass a letter to make peace with Saudi. Wait a little while, you’ll hear more fairy stories, believe me. Either in this thread or perhaps a previous one I discussed the functional role that propaganda plans. The best that we can divine with reasonable certainty about these rationales for why Soleimani was there in Iraq when he was killed is that this is a very serious problem for the ayatollah and upper echelons of the Iranian leadership. Rightly so, since whatever the truth of the matter it was a grave error, and has put Iran between a rock and a hard place.

    • Replies: @barr
  489. @annamaria

    You put your finger on the New Yorker magazine. This is now a notorious, and sophisticated, Jewish propaganda outlet. Perhaps it always was, but if so, it has gone from kosher to glatt kosher.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  490. @FB

    After emphasizing due respect for the work of Paul Craig Roberts, FB offered formidible reason and wrote: “I understand his projections upon VVP as the white knight that’s going to save the world…
    But the world just doesn’t work that way…and VVP has to think of his own people first…”

    Hello FB!

    I willingly defer to your comments on Russia & former Soviet past. In addition, and fyi, during mid-1980’s, I perused Stephen Cohen’s short but fascinating book, titled “Rethinking the Soviet experience.” But for perhaps PCR, the Reagan administration conservative elite did not cotton to Professor Cohen’s willingness to “rethink” what was virtually unthinkable in the White House.

    Soon, am anticipating Stephen Cohen shall provide a U.R. article that’s focused upon Trumpstein’s next steps after the Israel-approved murder of Mr. Soleimani.

    Now I respectfully retreat to your interesting opinion which was, and I repeat: “But the world just doesn’t work that way…and VVP has to think of his own people first…”

    Frankly, I assume President Putin is not a dyed-in-wool Globalist as are some bums in his government. Subsequently, I want to trust VVP shall not desert the Islamic Republic of Iran and allow the ZUS a free-hand at “pummeling” this great nation; of course short of the latter’s attempt at an (exceptional👺) self-defeating & destined to miserably fail, occupation of Iran.

    Well, FB, am pleased you & I have reached Armistice. So I believe you will allow a question regarding the non-didactic words, “the world not working that way.” 🤔

    Linked way down below (and fyr) is an article on “The Russia House” unnamed fellowhip, prominent globalist-inclined guests, and staging area while Davos 2020 happens. As you likely know, Paul Craig Roberts warned about Russia’s Atlanticist Integrationists and their impact upon VVP, but to my admittedly ltd. knowledge, PCR did not name A.I. names. Hm. Possible ties to Jewish oligarchs domiciled in Russia or elsewhere?

    Lastly, FB, and I am gone. 🙌 Can you now consider the peculiar and observable Russian impulse to not do anything major & which would demolish the Good Housekeeping rules of zionized Globalists, including the Populist Pretender, Donald J. Trump?
    (Note: A crippling opposition move would be to bail out of the US dollar as Reserve Currency hostage taking)

    Thanks, FB.

    https://roscongress.org/en/events/russkiy-dom-v-davose-2020/

    • Replies: @FB
  491. Dexter says:
    @Crazy Horse

    Obviously, one could say the same.

    My guess is you believe you’re both erudite and hilarious at the same time. However, even though it’s been some time since I audited a college lecture, I’m confident I still know bull shit when I hear it.

    Clown references and twists on anatomy are no substitute for a coherent argument.

    • Replies: @Crazy Horse
  492. moon says:
    @Bragadocious

    Bragadocious

    Oh, so in 2020, Giraldi says the Libya invasion was imperial ambition. In 2011 he said it was humanitarian. What happened, Phil?

    Phil did in 2011? Do you have a link? Bragadocious?

    Why I ask:
    Yes, I was wondering too about what felt like a support by a prominent US military intelligence expert on “the Arabs”. In the larger Arab Spring ebvironment he heavily argued against snowflakey support of protesters in Egypt. In Libya he felt matters may be slightly different. More educated citizen with a crazy (Green Book) leader? Once they got rid of him, matters might chance for the better? …

    Rich country, able to support its citizen, is all I recall. Vs Egyptian ill educated masses. … No educated masses, no relevant resources, although that changed …

    Islamism, Muslim Brotherhood, its respective heroes over the decades and countries never surfaced to the extend I would have liked it to. … Meaning my curiosity wasn’t satisfied about religion and/as politics during the cold war and earlier. And then there was Syria.

    Otherwise that man, I surely must have misread a lot considering my missing insights or established synapses on the topic Arabia/Persia its history and/or what an Israeli ethnopsychologist introduced to me as the expertise on: “the Arab mind”.

    Anyway, link? And beyond that, why would it matter beyond the basic semi-shared question mark on our minds?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  493. @Dexter

    ‘So terrorism against Americans and the US ceases to be illegal, immoral and unwarranted when Trump or another Republican is President? ‘

    How about giving us the information we needed to target al Qaeda in Afghanistan or leading the fight against ISIS?

    Soleimani wasn’t our friend or our enemy; he was an Iranian patriot. Sometimes he worked with us; sometimes against us.

    As it happens it would appear he was coming to Baghdad in response to our invitation to talk peace. When he showed himself, we whacked him.

    Does all this make you feel mighty proud to be an American?

  494. @Realist

    Ethnic is a nonsense word. Child baptism makes Christianity inherited. And all we have heard of is a Jewish grandmother. He knew nothing of being Jewish from his parents it seems.

    Don’t make Judaism a cage from which there is no escape. That makes all Jews victims. Victims of the rabbis. He is a White AFAIK.

    Ethnic originally means pagan.

    • Replies: @Realist
  495. @Dexter

    When your superiors find out you demand that Israel be bombed for its attack on the USS Liberty you will be in hot water. Maybe they will do to you what they did to Rabin.

  496. @Meimou

    ‘What was Trumpstein responding to exactly?’

    ? He was responding to pressure from Israel and the Jewish Lobby. Isn’t that obvious?

    • Agree: Dannyboy
  497. @moon

    ‘Bragadocious

    Oh, so in 2020, Giraldi says the Libya invasion was imperial ambition. In 2011 he said it was humanitarian. What happened, Phil?

    Phil did in 2011? Do you have a link? Bragadocious?’

    Does it matter? Giraldi could have been a speaker at the annual convention of Christians United for Israel in 2011.

    What matters is the validity of what he wrote above. To attempt to divert the conversation is typical Zionist redirection crap.

    • Replies: @moon
  498. @annamaria

    And let Israel murder its citizens in its navy with impunity in 1967.

  499. Realist says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    He knew nothing of being Jewish from his parents it seems.

    You should Google Ron Unz…and stop talking out of your ass…there are plenty of others that do that.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  500. annamaria says:
    @By-tor

    Patriotism does not exist in the high echelons of power in the zionized US.
    The White House has become a moral Outhouse.

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
    • Replies: @By-tor
  501. @Dexter

    Now you are calling Menahem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, and Ariel Sharon bad people instead of heroes.

  502. Talha says:
    @RudyM

    US would hit Iraq with “very big” sanctions like “they’ve never seen before ever.”

    Really? Sanctions like they’ve never seen before? Really?

    What was this guy, born in 2000 or something. Everyone who was alive in the 90s knows the extent of the sanctions Iraq had to endure:

    Well, there’s the bar right there, we’d have to implement something that kills at least more than half a million kids for that threat to make sense.

    Because, remember, the price…it’s worth it.

    Peace.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  503. annamaria says:
    @Dexter

    Sounds like your sensibilities are offended by a mere suggestion that the Jewish State of Israel could behave immorally. For your information, Israel was founded by self-proclaimed terrorists and has been existing since then as a terrorist entity. Check yourself the biographies of your presidents (and don’t forget the virtuous Mossad agents Epstein and Maxwell).

    Your holobiz indoctrination does not allow you to recognize the ongoing “nazi experiment” (Milgram study) that Israel has been running on Palestinians. Your Jewish Bolsheviks were the principal organizers of the genocidal bloodbath in Russia, while the sanctimonious zionists have been the main pushers for the mass murder of the civilian populations in Germany, Iraq, and Syria.

    The US could have had a mutually beneficial partnership with Russia and Iran. Instead, your rabid war-mongering zionists have been pushing for wars with the “Amalek” Russia and the “Amalek” Iran. Nothing but hatred and obnoxious supremacism have been coming from your tribe of financial machinators and blackmailers.

    • Replies: @Dexter
  504. @KA

    That was Caligula not Nero. Nero was an actor, not much caring about ruling Rome,

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  505. annamaria says:
    @Momus

    Momus, are not you trying to lecture Americans from your hobby horse of “superior” Jewish morality?
    A repost (#181) for you and your hasbara colleagues:

    The most vicious attack against me and my country I’ve witnessed came at the hands of young American Jews from NYC. I’d been back for a few years from a combat role in Vietnam and, at a party in our building where my wife and I were the only non-Jews, a bunch of Jews who’d just returned from fighting for Israel in some capacity during its ‘73 war went after me with a hatred that I can still feel to this day. They were saying that American soldiers suck and how much better Israelis were in the field. It ended when a woman no less yelled at me, “All we want is your money.” This from supposed Americans. As they like to say, “We Jews shit on you Christians.” If you haven’t worked on Wall Street with them, this may seem academic. The hate is palpable.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    • Thanks: Art
    • Replies: @Miggle
    , @Momus
  506. renfro says:
    @FB

    How can this stupidity be explained…?

    Easy. You have to look at Trump and the US actions as the Israeli mentality:

    Hubris
    Deception
    Conflict
    Chaos

    Creative destruction is the game, it is a process through which something new brings about the demise of whatever existed before it.

    This is exactly what is going on. Its been in progress for a long time. Check Walt’s The Israel Lobby for examples of how Israel has again and again thrown monkey wrench’s in US efforts to establish good relations with ME states thru false intel, false flags, etc..
    The goal has always been to make Israel the regional hegemon by having the US destroy any ME influential or military challengers to Israel.

  507. @A123

    take a long hike on a short pier zionist scum.

    • Agree: FB
  508. @Wally

    None, by giving your consent you become just as guilty as they are. Only people that can not think independently and followers give consent by partaking in the circus known as voting on rentier class criminals lying in your face.
    You are a TINA guy and TINA is a lie.

    • Replies: @Wally
  509. AntiFool says:

    What biased hogash. That cockroach general was responsible for 17% of US casualties in Iraq. They attribute Salami to having over 500 us soldiers sent home in baskets. He was only in Iraq coordinating further attacks by KatiebHizbulah whatever they are called. It’s only common sense after an attack that killed a US contractor you send a message and cut the snakes head off the moment you have the opportunity. The OP of this article is clearly an Obama Liberal slug follower and it shows. It’s about time the US shows its soldiers will not be killed with impunity and now that the muslim loving Obama is gone there will be no more red lines that are crossed and laughed at in our faces. The US is continually burdened by the disgustingly passive liberals like this poster who fail to stand up for our country. Democrats and idiots are the above poster are the reason this country is falling apart at the seams.

  510. Ahoy says:

    @ Chuck Orloski #467

    Hey bro Chuck, on reading your line “but for diabolical internal Rus & international Supremacist Jewry restrain with which he must inevitably deal”, here are my two cents.

    Your picture of the internal situation in Russia is accurate. The PCR article portrays the western mind’s agony in bringing an end to the gobbling up of nations by the ZOG as if they are playing monopoly.

    There is, also, another way that Putin may have chosen to get involved. The Sun Tzu(Chinese general) way. His famous advice: “Do not get involved in the affairs of the enemy when he is busy with his self destruction”.

    Ever since the late Bush the Senior announced to the world the coming of the NWO the ZOG are piling up mistakes upon mistakes. Kosovo and Chechnya were the big ones followed by the bombing of Yougoslavia and the seven countries in five years, as per former NATO Chief general Clerk.

    The latest, the murder of Suleimaini, takes the cake. The fate of the ZOG is sealed. A great gift of the New Year to the patriotic Americans who are fighting to break the chains os the Deep State.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  511. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    His replacement Jen Steward says:

    “We’re not calling them our enemies,” she added, “but they’re emergent competitors who want to be peer competitors, and if we never want to get into a fair fight we have a lot of work in front of us.”

    So in a ‘fair fight’ we would lose?…..we’re gonna lose anyway because of this exact mentality.
    They can sanction and cyber bomb till hell freezes over…..we will be the one that ends up boxed in with nowhere left to go.

  512. annamaria says:
    @ivegotrythm

    The New Yorker was lost when the Russophobic David Remnick was put in charge.

  513. Iris says:
    @vot tak

    Great comment, very informative. Thanks so much..

    • Thanks: vot tak
  514. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @renfro

    Perhaps if Russia gave one of these missile to Iran peace would breakout…

    North Korea already has nukes set aside for Iran in return for financial and diplomatic support

  515. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @renfro

    Yes, What we need is conventional, intercontinental, hypersonic proliferation. If country A unjustly attacks country B, then country B hits the residence of the head of state of country A with a conventional missile. If this situation doesn’t exist now, it will exist soon enough

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  516. By-tor says:
    @annamaria

    I know. I stated it was globalism in my first sentence. It is basically just a mask for US.gov domestic and worldwide arm-twisting or far worse for those in the cross-hairs.

  517. renfro says:

    To avoid becoming mentally discombobulated we need to steel ourselves against all the contradicting propaganda….and the contradictions and illogical lies may even by design to keep the public confused and chasing after faulty theories. Everything we are seeing is a Israeli op conducted by the US. When the US ,in the bodies of Trump’s adm , acts and speaks it is Israel acting and speaking.

    Pompeo: US May Attack More Iranian Leaders
    Blames mounting Iran tension on Obama
    Jason Ditz/ Posted on January 5, 2020

    Elaborating on several days of US threats against Iran if they retaliate over the recent US assassination of top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says that the US might well kill more Iranian leaders if Iran threatens US interests in its own retaliation.

    Pompeo made the comments in the course of Sunday TV interviews, seeking to clarify President Trump’s own threat to launch “disproportionate” attacks against Iran going forward, even as US military officials were saying they didn’t envision any more attacks going forward.

    Pompeo’s comments are trying to frame Thursday’s attack, and the changing narrative. Previously claiming Gen. Soleimani was ready to launch an “imminent” attack, he now claimed only that an attack would’ve been “inevitable” if the US hadn’t killed him.

    Other reports indicate the assassination was just one of several options for attacking Iran that Trump was given, suggesting that killing Soleimani was a choice, and that the US narrative for why was built after the fact.

    Pompeo also dismissed Congressional talk of trying to react to the unauthorized US attack, saying that the president has “all the authority we need” to do what they’d done without informing Congress.

    Pompeo went on to say that the only reason the new Iran conflict is happening at all is because of President Obama’s appeasement. This suggests there is not going to be a significant diplomatic effort after the recent US military engagement.”

    • Replies: @anon
    , @barr
    , @Art
  518. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Dexter

    The first requirement for a “coherent argument” is coherence not agitprop posing as such. I suggest going back to college and audit a few more lectures others than those giving by John Woo or other Neocon trash.

    • Replies: @Dexter
  519. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Pompeo’s comments are trying to frame Thursday’s attack, and the changing narrative. Previously claiming Gen. Soleimani was ready to launch an “imminent” attack, he now claimed only that an attack would’ve been “inevitable” if the US hadn’t killed him.

    Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations
    (if a book is written about it, it’s not Secret )

    and

    The Jew’s Double Standard
    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3220/jewish/The-Jews-Double-Standard.htm

    ” . . .the following law in the Torah (codified in Talmud Tractate Sanhedrin 72a, derived from Deuteronomy 22:26): Habah l’hargecha hashkem l’hargo — “If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.” (This law applies equally to someone coming to kill someone else — you’re obligated to kill the murderer in order to save his intended victim.)
    This law seems to contradict the principle of life’s infinite value. If no life can be deemed less valuable that any other, what makes the victim’s life more valuable than the murderer’s life? Furthermore, this rule applies to anyone who is “coming to kill you” — he hasn’t even done anything yet! Maybe he won’t succeed? Maybe he’ll change his mind? Nor does the law say anything about trying to run away. It says: If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.”

  520. @Realist

    I don’t even ride a donkey. Learn to spell arse. Your Hispano-English dialect does not earn you points.

  521. barr says:
    @BL

    Pompeo’s list of 12 demands to Iran, presented in May 2018, as the price of a U.S. return to the nuclear deal offend the whole world in their sadistic, idiotic arrogance.—- from
    Gary Leupp , Professor of History at Tufts University,

    Didn’t Saudi ask Qatar to accept 12 demands also ? Qatar is standing pretty tall.

    ” you’ll hear more fairy stories,” Yes like Gulf of Tonkin, WMD, Anthrax from Saddam,Gas attack by Syria, ISIS defeated by USA ,seizure of Crimea by force , and latest is”Souleimen a bad actor about to attack USA Highly classified and can’t be shared “:

    This fairy take was told by Iraqi PM . Why does he have to lie after the incident? He could have kept quiet easily. NPR’s Pentagon correspondent find him more trustworthy

    • Replies: @BL
  522. Miggle says:
    @annamaria

    Momus, are not you trying to lecture Americans from your hobby horse of “superior” Jewish morality?

    Agree, annamaria. There is zero Jewish morality. If my morality only applies to me and my family, however detailed, however trumpeted among us, and I can lie to, deceive, rob, kill all others, I have zero morality. There is no such thing as Jewish morality.

    • Replies: @Phil_from_NJ
  523. moon says:
    @Colin Wright

    I was a bit verbose maybe? I wish I could be more concise. …

    **********

    I fully agreed with Phil Giraldi almost every time I stumbled across him lately, here or elsewhere. I had somehow lost sight of him for almost a decade … I certainly do in this case.

    Does it matter, if someone changes his mind? No obviously not. I prefer people that change their minds once they get relevant information. But now it feels we are back to the diverse layers of twilight. Blast from the Past? Back to 10/11??? Or the 2011 … I agree … diversion.

    Operation Mermaid Dawn

  524. barr says:
    @renfro

    “This suggests there is not going to be a significant diplomatic effort after the recent US military engagement.””

    There was “appeasement ” by default before Bush Cheney introduced new screws . Why didn’t it happen then ? Why did Iran carry out joint operation against Taliban in 2001-2202 .? Only stopped when someone decided to call Iran part of axis of evil ,taking advantage of the raw emotion of the country to insert whatever he felt to be inserted into Bush’s speech .

  525. @Ahoy

    ahoy, Ahoy!

    I deeply desire to trust Vlad Putin’s Russia but there are obstacles.

    Doubtless, and as FB attested, his priority is Russians.

    Nonetheless, I see V.P.’s closeness with Netanyahu with whom I know Jews come first.

    Last & very frankly repetitive, I denounce use of. “Deep State.” Again, when a country has a Deep State, all that remains is a Shallow State which gives crunbs that fall off the banquet table. 👺

    Thanks & my respect, Ahoy!

  526. renfro says:

    It is being reported on cable news networks that US troops are leaving Iraq.
    The pentagon says no they aren’t, that they are only ‘repositioning.

    Follow the time line of the Marine General’s letter announcing it and the comments of the pentagon here:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/jan/06/donald-trump-impeachment-news-today-iran-latest-updates

  527. NATO decided that it does not want to be an accomplice to murder and tried to distance itself from the US crime:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/06/nato-chief-holds-back-from-endorsing-us-killing-of-suleimani

    After lots of hot air and bluster from Orange Clown and Plumpeo, the US and its sidekicks are withdrawing troops from Iraq:
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/06/us-withdraw-troops-iraq-amid-growing-crisis-iran-12013132/

    Now, which ME country would be next kicking out the occupiers? Place your bets.

  528. Art says:
    @vot tak

    Trump Says US Will Not Leave Iraq Until Baghdad Pays for American Air Base, Threatens Sanctions

    Trump is psychologically out of control – he is taking everything personal, his hard ass “hammer them” response to every disagreement, is not the norm for Western culture.

    Trump is wrong when it comes to the ME, he has no real check around him. It is all Israel all the time. The neocon Jews love what he is doing. The MIC is ecstatic. The Republicans must stop supporting all these mean warmongering Trump responses.

    Think Peace

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Colin Wright
  529. The New York Times seems to have things backwards.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/worl … ategy.html

    They ask how Iran could mollify Trump.

    Perhaps they could offer to pay for the drone.

  530. @Art

    Pentagon chief Esper denies that the US troops are leaving Iraq:
    https://apnews.com/e384b6e3d230b63d3f69092ef53b5bd9

    So, there appears to be a disagreement among murderers. Anyway, now the US troops in Iraq will be occupiers openly, w/o fig leaves.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  531. @Art

    ‘Trump is psychologically out of control – he is taking everything personal, his hard ass “hammer them” response to every disagreement, is not the norm for Western culture.

    My guess is he’s winging it.

    The Israel lobby has been on him to start that war with Iran since he was elected; that’s what they paid for.

    So the US military presented one of its lists of options running from appeasement to batshit crazy. Trump saw ‘batshit crazy,’ and said ‘this’ll do it.’

    We did it.

    Everything since has been damage control. We’ve screwed the pooch alright; the challenge is to make it sound like a win.

  532. Wally says:
    @Per/Norway

    Get a grip & calm down. You’re being irrational.

    Sometimes you have to take what you can get.
    And Trump is far & away better than the alternatives.

    I refer you to my comment in this thread, #445.

    Cheers.

  533. Art says:
    @renfro

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says that the US might well kill more Iranian leaders if Iran threatens US interests in its own retaliation.

    Hmm — The mean angry intimidating face of Mike Pompeo represents America to the world.

    Hmm — Ex-military, ex-CIA, Israeli lapdog, friend of Saudi, Trump yes man.

    Hmm – Is he America?

  534. @renfro

    renfro iterated: “The pentagon says no they aren’t, that they are only ‘repositioning.”

    I agree with what “the pentagon” said.

    Given Supremacist Jews’ repositioned permission, 🙃, haha, the pentagoner would have told the truth, as I once emphasized here at P.G./U.R. weekly.

    Is a take off from The Eagles hit pop song, “Hotel California.”

    Tis is: The US can pull out of Iraq at anytime it wants, but they can never leave.👺 Now listen close (in your head) to Joe Walsh’s. wild lead guitar 🎸 run, renfro. Got it?

    Thanks, & my Hotel Scranton respect.

    • Replies: @renfro
  535. BL says:
    @barr

    Didn’t Saudi ask Qatar to accept 12 demands also ? Qatar is standing pretty tall.

    Yeah, but little Qatar is crying and whining like a bunch of little girls every day as Iran has since Trump cancelled the JCPOA giveaway. North Korea is a much better example of a rogue nation resisting with dignity, even if of the Stalinist variety.

    Look, if for no other reason than to salvage some national self-respect, Iran needs to stop belly-aching. Even the Europeans are tired of hearing it. Sure, Putin and Xi will offer occasional tepid support, but Iran is going to have to get it together itself when it comes to POTUS Trump.

    As I’ve mentioned before, China was and remains in a similar position. Given how it had taken the US to the cleaners on trade, China was going to lose something in any negotiation with Trump. Yet Xi/China have negotiated, with both sides from top to bottom able to hash out serious issues like adults.

    Not for nothing, Chairman Kim and Trump personally get along just fine.

    No, the problem is that Iran is run by that old, stubborn ayatollah — who is so wise he shouted at the President of the United States “You can’t do a damn thing!,” a day or so before Trump told him what time it was via a drone strike on his beloved Soleimani.

    • Replies: @barr
  536. Iris says:
    @FB

    …the US has lost the Middle East…it’s been a long time coming, but the writing has been on the wall for a while now…at least since the aggression started in 2001…

    Indeed.
    There is a French Machiavellian political saying that was crafted when Napoleon executed the Duke d’Enghien in 1804, which goes:” It is worst than a crime, it is a mistake”. (C’est pire qu’un crime, c’est une erreur).

    Notwithstanding the abject immorality of killing human beings the way Soleimani and his companions were murdered, the political stupidity of this execution is mind-boggling.

    Executing one individual out of a cohesive, 80-million strong nation such as Iran, to try and reverse a regional geopolitical situation, actually amounts at the Anglo-Zionists admitting that they reached the limits of their strategy.

    Taking out an outstanding individual like Soleimani from a nation which still has strong values of common good, collective destiny and sacrifice, is the evidence of first-class cultural stupidity from the Anglo-Zionists.

    A bright, renewed patriotic torch has been passed to a new generation of Iranians. Where in the world, nowadays, would one see hundred of thousands/millions of people crying at the funeral of a public figure?

    The American global empire is finished; the supremacist KKKstan North of Gaza will follow suit.

    • Replies: @BL
    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @Dube
    , @FB
    , @Miggle
  537. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    This proves that USA has become a ZIO Israeli Proxy…Ameriacsn will provide the TAX funding, the blood, and Israel/jewish capitalists will reap the trillions in Profits…and then Goldman sachst will sue USA for losses in Irak, Iran, etc. wait for more antiUSA terrosrism, while Israel remains Intact…

  538. criolle says:

    The very first sentence is misleading.
    “The United States is now at war with Iran…”
    IRAN announced that it was “at war” with the United States in the late 1970’s. Jimmy Carter chose to handle that with “Diplomacy” in order to recover hostages from the U.S. Embassy. He failed.

    To my knowledge, Iran has never rescinded that Declaration.

    • Replies: @barr
  539. @renfro

    Trump contradicts the Marine General and the Pentagon and states that we aren’t leaving Iraq “until we have secured the oil”.

  540. @Johnny Smoggins

    I think that one can almost guarantee they won’t. It would be completely uncharacteristic.

  541. renfro says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Dont believe anyone in the pentagon or anywhere else in the gov…..thats the land of the Walking Dead now.

    Many of Trump’s top advisors on Iran are military generals who served multiple tours of duty in our wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. (None wounded in combat however) They believe that Iran is the reason why they lost those wars, they got the blame and they’re dead set on payback for their lose of esteem in their glaring failure to win any of these wars – no matter what it takes.

    Army General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is one of those and is out for vengeance. He’s a extreme Israel suck up and a rabid Russia hater. He’s the one who presented Trump with ‘options’ on Iran, including the extreme of killing Soleimani.
    Remember his name, he’s one of those fueling the fire for a Iran war.

  542. @Wally

    ‘… And Trump is far & away better than the alternatives…’

    That’s what’s so depressing.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  543. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Why no information on how the ZUS contractor in Iraq was killed? 🤔 Evidently, the outlaw assassins write the Israel-approved history.

    They’re the scriptwriters, Chuck. Virtually everything we read in the news and see on the Talmudvision has been scripted by Jewish Supremacists and/or their Traitorous Shabbos Goys!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  544. barr says:
    @BL

    Stay focused . You are imitating Trump. By the way Qatar has not been whining unless you mistook your cries for it.

    • Replies: @BL
  545. barr says:
    @criolle

    That has no meaning .
    Algiers declaration was in 1983 or later .

  546. BL says:
    @barr

    That was a typo. It should have read little Qatar ISN’T whining like Iran is.

    Whatever you might say about them, the Arabs don’t cry and carry on like the Iranians who, apparently, think they’re all sensitive, like poets.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  547. Bookish1 says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Why would focusing on malls in the midwest be a better option than malls in the east or west or elsewhere?

  548. @renfro

    Okay, renfro. Starting now, Mark Milley’s name is embedded in my fairly good memory. Will follow his misfortunes, thanks!

    Btw, am leaning on geokat to help me find information on the US contractor that was allegedly killed by an “evildoer.”

    Do you know anything on who was the dead US contractor, and perhaps evidence which displays who the killer was?

    I respect how geo explained how the good guys, i.e., ZUS and Israel, are “scriptwriters” but I reckon talent like Rita Katz of SITE 👺would have provided film that would have at minimum displayed the trumped up scene & heroic huntdown of the Iran-affiliated “terrorist.”

    Please let me know if you have something, renfro?Thank you.

    • Replies: @renfro
  549. @Wally

    “Sometimes you have to take what you can get.
    And Trump is far & away better than the alternatives.”

    Amen to that.

  550. Bolteric says:

    I read all of this so-called antisemetic literature – essays, articles, well-referenced books and I’m ready to say forget it. Sign me up for the club. Ready to join the neoconservative Republicans and be on the side of the winners. I want to be like Burt Reynolds in Striptease, be an elected official – Congressman/Senator/GOP/Dem – doesn’t matter – cover myself in vaseline and sing and dance the Hava Nagila in Florida with some elders.

  551. @annamaria

    Maybe each one of them gave Trump their top target?

  552. annamaria says:
    @renfro

    The Honorable Colonel Patrick Lang on the dishonorable Trump and Milley: https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/

    I had hoped that Trump’s decision to kill an Iranian general engaged in a diplomatic mission (among other things) while the man was on the soil of a supposed ally of the US was something Trump pulled out of his fundament either inspired by war movies or on the recommendation of “our greatest ally” but I am informed that in fact some idiot in the DoD included this option in the list of possibilities that was briefed to the CinC in Florida. … Trump himself chose the death option. I would hold General Milley (CJCS) personally responsible for not striking this option from the list before it reached the CinC.

  553. annamaria says:
    @renfro

    “There Will Be Blood,” by Larry C Johnson: https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/01/there-will-be-blood-by-larry-c-johnson.html

    America’s naive belief in the miracle of the assassination fantasy, especially when applied in the Middle East, reminds me of an Alzheimer’s patient who believes in magic beans but fails to remember that the beans never sprout. We keep on planting the same seed and look anxiously for a beanstalk that never sprouts.

    Killing Qassem Soleimani is the latest meaningless chapter in this blood soaked narrative of revenge and retribution against a “bad” guy. Killing a “bad” guy makes us feel proud and provides the emotional equivalent of a sugar rush. But there is no compelling evidence that these killings actually advance the cause of peace or coerce the other bad guys into hiding in a cave and praying that we go away. …

    This latest strike is likely to come back to haunt us. … I used to believe that our moral authority counted for something. I no longer believe that to be true.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  554. @geokat62

    Yes, geo, they are “scriptwriters.”

    Lately, they are producing exceptionally piss poor (flawed) scripts. Why? Well, the dumb goyim Americans are accustomed to stupid stuff & at any rate, it’s hooray,🙌 NFL playoff game time. (Zigh) Fuck Soleimani and root for pervert, Robert Kraft’s, New England Patriots!

    (Zigh) Purim soon and I reckon time is running short for an improved “script” which fast forwards a barbaric ZUS attack on Iran. Possibly including sack of Iranian cultural sites, just like what happened after W’s liberation of Iraq.👺

    Thanks, geo, reckon you too have no information on the dead US contractor.

  555. @Johnny Walker Read

    Yup I did read that revised crap of biography of Nero. There is nothing there about Nero appointing horse as senator. You are a irresponsible cheep nobody, Do not dare to address me ever.
    Concerning Nero he came from lover class nobility and he was obviously half breed.
    He did marry a girl from powerful extended Roman family. That was a reason for his ascension to power. Once an emperor he abandoned his wife for a new girlfriend, His mother who had some brain was furious so he killed her. (What do you expect from a half breed) His wife family did work the senate until he was deposed by senate. He was running for his life but the guard did catch up with him and forced him to commit suicide.

  556. @geokat62

    Iraqis and Iranians understand who controls Trump even if Americans don’t.

  557. @AntiFool

    17% of US casualties is highly likely to be less than the percentage of combat casualties from “friendly fire”, which I believe were around 25% in the First Gulf War (I hope to never become quite that friendly).

  558. @The Scalpel

    I wonder how soon events like Davos, Bilderberger and Bohemian Grove will have to be held in underground bunkers?

    • LOL: Daniel Rich
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @The Scalpel
  559. @Iris

    It would require the death of an individual of the stature of Kim Kardashian to draw a similar number of mourners to a funeral in the US.

    • Agree: By-tor
    • LOL: geokat62, Talha, L.K, Iris
    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  560. @BL

    ‘That was a typo. It should have read little Qatar ISN’T whining like Iran is.

    Whatever you might say about them, the Arabs don’t cry and carry on like the Iranians who, apparently, think they’re all sensitive, like poets.’

    Imagine if someone whacked, say, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

    I’m sure we’d just say, ‘well, he must have deserved it.’

    Kept quiet, sucked it up, not offered any more provocations.

    All we ask is that everyone grovel unconditionally and forever at our Israel’s feet. It’s not like we’re unreasonable.

  561. @ChuckOrloski

    ‘…Thanks, geo, reckon you too have no information on the dead US contractor.’

    At this rate, we really do need to build a tomb to the unknown contractor.

    Call me slow to catch on, but does he even actually exist?

  562. @NoseytheDuke

    ‘I wonder how soon events like Davos, Bilderberger and Bohemian Grove will have to be held in underground bunkers?’

    The thing is, when I try to think of what happened the last time we came for the lying, thieving, murderous shits, I draw a blank.

    Except for 1933. ‘We’ came then.

    …the difficulty is that I don’t actually like that. I didn’t want to have to go there. It that really the only special for tonight?

  563. @EliteCommInc.

    “Service is an honorable profession, and i am ever confident that most US citizens do serve honorable”

    Serving in the military advances Zionist and international Jewish finance’s interests and is not “an honorable profession.” That’s what these wars in the Middle East are all about and whom they benefit.

    Those servicemen are nothing but cannon fodder and useful idiots for the Big Money Jews and Israel. That’s a fact.

    “The war now being proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish hegemony throughout the world.”

    –Deputy Chief of Staff, Gen. George Van Horn Moseley (1939)

  564. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    …reckon you too have no information on the dead US contractor.

    According to this ABC News article, “[t]he U.S. military does not reveal the identity of American contractors killed during overseas deployments.”

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-civilian-contractor-killed-troops-injured-rocket-attack/story?id=67949811

    Kind of reminds one of what Carl Cameron of Fox News had to say in his 4-part investigatory series on Israeli involvement in 9/11:

    “evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.”

    All I have to say is: “how effing convenient!”

  565. Sulu says:

    “In reality, the series of foolish attacks initiated by the United States over the past week will only hasten the departure of much of the U.S. military from the region.”

    Have you considered the possibility that this is the very reason Trump did what he did?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Daniel Rich
  566. @Miggle

    “There is zero Jewish morality. If my morality only applies to me and my family, however detailed, however trumpeted among us, and I can lie to, deceive, rob, kill all others, I have zero morality. There is no such thing as Jewish morality.”

    There is indeed a Jewish ‘morality.’ You just described it. If it’s “good for the Jews”, it’s ‘moral.’

    “Christians never see their cunning. The average Gentile cannot imagine the connivery of the Jew.”–William Finck

  567. @Sulu

    ‘…Have you considered the possibility that this is the very reason Trump did what he did?’

    Wouldn’t that be nice?

    However, no. Trump did it to appease his Jewish handlers.

  568. Dexter says:
    @annamaria

    I’m aware of the works of people like Thomas Suarez and others who liken themselves historians more than authors of a narrative. They’re quick to tell people “a story” but never as fast or qualified to tell “the story”.

    In a similar way to the modern skewing of American history and the painting of British settlers as genocidal immigrants who murdered noble, innocent indian tribes after robbing them of their land is both inaccurate and misguided. The same approach is being applied by anti-jewish haters and race baiters in order to convince the uneducated the history they failed to learn well over the past 80 years is wrong.

  569. There are many, many people in the world but not many White people. Letz start a war between the Africans and Asians. We the White people have had Civil wars, Revolutionary wars, WW One Wars, WW Two Wars where many of our people have been killed and have died.
    Itz time for other populations to destroy each other. I will not be participating in any overseas adventures until the populations of the world equalize.

  570. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:

    – ”The Roman Empire stretched from North Africa, Syria and the Mediterranean Sea to Germania and Britannia in the north. It ended at Scotland.”

    Scottish Association of the Teachers of History (SATH)

    – ”The Roman Empire – particularly the military – declined partially as a result of an influx of Germanic mercenaries into the ranks of the legions.”

    Arthur Ferrill

  571. Dexter says:
    @Crazy Horse

    The only one posing horsey is you and your continued inability to create a defendable argument in support of your anti-Semitic ways.

    • Replies: @Crazy Horse
  572. SC Rebel says:

    This is the age old story of American presidential candidates talking peace on the campaign trail only to do what is seemingly a 180 when elected. GWB’s compassionate conservative/no nation building routine or Orange Man’s anti Iraq war rant during the primaries, it doesn’t matter. The outcome is the same. We dupes keep believing them and vote them into office.

    The reality is that a real anti-war candidate could never come close to the Oval Office, except on a guided tour. The((( powers that be))) will not allow such an individual to do what is best for the US.

    I agree with other commenters that say it’s hard to convince the normies that ZOG is a real thing.

    Maybe I’m being stupidly optimistic here, but I think ZOG has been overplaying its hand recently and this is waking more people up.

    Hopefully those numbers go up dramatically soon.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  573. renfro says:
    @Wally

    Sometimes you have to take what you can get.
    And Trump is far & away better than the alternatives.

    I watched some re run clips tonight of Trump campaign rally speeches.

    The one where he said he would bring back waterboarding and torture.
    The one where he said the families of Muslim fighters should also be killed.
    The one where he told the false story about a US general who dipped 50 bullets in pig’s blood, lined up 50 captives, shot 49 of them and told the 50th one to go tell his friend what he had seen….the story was a lie but he kept telling it anyway.
    The one where he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NY and get away with it.

    His supporters cheered this crap like war painted crazed Zulus dancing around the camp fire.

    Hillary had everything wrong except for one thing…..you are deplorable.

    Trump is a psychopathic piece of excrement ….he’s the dog shit on the bottom of America’s shoe and needs to be scrapped off.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @lavoisier
  574. SC Rebel says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    True, but the insane Rapture cultists like Hagee will be leaping for joy because the End Times are near, or so they will believe.

  575. renfro says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    There must be a blackout…I get nothing…not under gov sites or searching ‘family of’ or ‘contractor body transported’…zero. …just a ‘name not released’ statement.
    It should have been released by now.
    His funeral should have at least been announced in his hometown paper…but no hits there either.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  576. @SC Rebel

    ‘… Maybe I’m being stupidly optimistic here, but I think ZOG has been overplaying its hand recently and this is waking more people up…’

    Either that’s happening or I’m just frightening the people I meet.

    One of the two, that’s for sure.

  577. @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Chuck,

    Hope all’s well and your lower back not playing footsie with your upper rib cage.

    You pondered:

    Thanks, geo, reckon you too have no information on the dead US contractor.

    Not a single peep about this ‘person.’ Not whether it’s a man or woman, his/her age, what company s/he worked for, was s/he a mercenary perhaps?

    Nada, zilch, nichego!

    Look into my eyes, Chuck, “This is the government speaking. You can trust us… trust us [insert echo ad infinitum ]

    Stay warm :o]

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Anonymous
  578. @renfro

    ‘… Trump is a psychopathic piece of excrement ….he’s the dog shit on the bottom of America’s shoe …”

    Yeah…but as I say, the depressing bit is that he’s better than the alternatives.

    They say you can judge a people by the leaders they choose. That’s become a very depressing thought.

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
    • Replies: @renfro
  579. Dube says:
    @Iris

    There is a French Machiavellian political saying that was crafted when Napoleon executed the Duke d’Enghien in 1804, which goes:” It is worst than a crime, it is a mistake”. (C’est pire qu’un crime, c’est une erreur).

  580. anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Check out how the feckless [email protected]#s in that joo-cesspool, those “greatest allies” of the Great Satan, are trying to shove the evil Orange-utan and the obese diabolical Evangelical/Pagan Clown under the bus.

    https://www.rt.com/news/477604-netanyahu-distances-israel-soleimani-killing/

    Phucking contemptible jussies.

    This is so hilarious. 😀

    • Replies: @Crazy Horse
  581. @NoseytheDuke

    It would require the death of an individual of the stature of Kim Kardashian to draw a similar number of mourners to a funeral in the US.

    Does that ass fit in a coffin?

  582. L.K says:
    @RudyM

    And Blumenthal is a snake who has changed his stripes (not a very good mixed metaphor) regarding Syria. Has he ever properly apologized to those who had a clue what was happening before he did? Has he ever properly apologized for attacking Alison Weir for daring to be interviewed by right-wingers and telling inconvenient truths about the influence of small groups of Zionist Jews?

    That’s correct.
    Here is a good take on Blumenthal, Norton and Khalek re Syria;
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/12/max-blumenthal-says-he-is-a-cynical-salesperson-posing-as-journalist-he-is-right.html

    In July 2017 we took on three “cynical salespersons” in the ‘progressive’ media who took part in a “disinformation campaign aimed at convincing Americans to support decapitating another Middle Eastern government and let Al Qaeda and co. fill the void.” Those three “cynical salespeople” were then and still are “posing as journalists”.

    Five years after the war on Syria began those three “cynical salespersons”, who had consistently propagandized for more war on Syria, turned around and started to write in favor of the Syrian government side while either forgetting to mention or even hiding their earlier position.

    And
    Syria – The Alternet Grayzone Of Smug Turncoats – Blumenthal, Norton, Khalek
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/07/syria-a-grayzone-of-opinionated-turncoats.html

  583. @Sulu

    Have you considered the possibility that this is the very reason Trump did what he did [assassinate Iranian General Soleimani – DR]?

    Think millions of people will pour into the streets to say goodbye to the Orange Baboon [when that day comes]?

    Soleimani was/is immensely popular, on a level the OB can only dream of. To top it all off, unlike the OB, Soleimani made many, many deals, with various groups/governments in a host of different countries and always successful. The OB on the other hand…

  584. renfro says:

    This is very interesting.

    The reporter for WP Baghdad bureau, Mustaf Salim, was in the parliament live tweeting Mahdi’s address. you can read the series of tweets here

    “I received a phone call from
    @realDonaldTrump
    when the embassy protests ended thanking the government efforts and asked Iraq to play the mediator’s role between US and Iran” Iraqi PM said.
    ·
    Jan 5
    “But at the same time American helicopters and drones were flying without the approval of Iraq, and we refused the request of bringing more soldiers to US embassy and bases” iraqi PM said.
    ·
    Jan 5
    “I was supposed to meet Soleimani at the morning the day he was killed, he came to deliver me a message from Iran responding to the message we delivered from Saudi to Iran” Iraqi PM said.
    The assassination of Soleimani and Muhandus was a political assassination that cannot be accepted. Said Iraqi PM

    “The United States told us that some of the attacks against PMU headquarters in the recent months were conducted by Israel” Iraqi PM said.

    Now some MPs inside the hall can be heard chanting slogans against America and Israel.
    “Yes,yes Abu Mahdi Al-Muhandus”
    “Yes,yes Soleimani”
    “No,No America”
    “No,No Israel”
    MPs are chanting inside the hall
    more at his feed.

    • Replies: @renfro
  585. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Dexter

    Ah I’m deeply touched. It must have taken all the energy in that one depleted brain cell of yours to come up with such a witty comeback. “Antisemitic”. Oh how original. It just shows your intellectual depth which has has sign right next to it saying “No Diving in the Shallow End”

    • Replies: @Dexter
  586. renfro says:
    @renfro

    P.S.

    About this….”some of the attacks against PMU headquarters in the recent months were conducted by Israel” Iraqi PM said’…..and about the Iraq General who was killed with Soleimani”.

    Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the Iraq general was one of the leaders of the PMU,the Popular Mobilization Units, he was called ”the engineer” and Israel believed he was planning to build a Iraq Air Force . He was also on Israel’s hit list.

    The deeper you dig the more obvious it becomes that this drone attack taking out Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis and Soleimani was a Israeli orchestrated assassination.

    Its also interesting that Saudi figures in this by way of…….”he came to deliver me a message from Iran responding to the message we delivered from Saudi to Iran” Iraqi PM said.
    Did Saudi have a hand in setting up this up also….passing info to Israel they likely had on when Soleimani”.would be in Iraq.

    I am willing to bet our treasonous new Joint Chief Mike Milley knew every bit of this and even coordinated with Isr on the intel they were getting from Saudi and that it had been in the planning for a while……the ‘Saudi message to Iran’ being the lure to get Soleimani”.in Iraq. …a typical Saudi ploy.

    We need to create our own Good Guys Assassination team and franchise it around the world.

    • Replies: @Momus
  587. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @anonymous

    NuttingYahoo reminds me of the kid who burns the house down and hands the still burning match off to the fat Red Headed Retard.

  588. renfro says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yeah…but as I say, the depressing bit is that he’s better than the alternatives

    You can toss that excuse in the trash can……he’s not better, he’s the same as.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  589. Momus says:
    @annamaria

    Thanks Annamaria.

    Do you have documented proof or a video that this incident happened?

    Proof that the author served in combat in Vietnam?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  590. “That cockroach general was responsible for 17% of US casualties in Iraq. They attribute Salami to having over 500 us soldiers sent home in baskets. He was only in Iraq coordinating further attacks by KatiebHizbulah whatever they are called. It’s only common sense after an attack that killed a US contractor you send a message and cut the snakes head off the moment you have the opportunity. The OP of this article is clearly an Obama Liberal slug follower and it shows.”

    The problem is that the claims are a stretch on what is reasonable. If we were in conflict with Iran, or Iraq, I think it would be reasonable to include Iranian involvement. But that Iran would provoke an attack that would end with US retaliation an worse – US remaining in the region — sounds unreasoned. And todate Iran has not exhibited that level of nonsensical or risk taking choices.

    And the gloves have been off for a quite some time.

    No, sadly, it has been our carelessness that has resulted in damaging the US,

  591. Dexter says:
    @Crazy Horse

    No worries. I’m adding thoughts of your soul to todays’s minchah and maariv. Your attempt at wit is on its own.

  592. lavoisier says: • Website
    @annamaria

    I used to believe that our moral authority counted for something. I no longer believe that to be true.

    The United States has not had any moral authority for some time now.

    • Agree: Dannyboy
  593. lavoisier says: • Website
    @renfro

    I watched some re run clips tonight of Trump campaign rally speeches.

    The one where he said he would bring back waterboarding and torture.
    The one where he said the families of Muslim fighters should also be killed.
    The one where he told the false story about a US general who dipped 50 bullets in pig’s blood, lined up 50 captives, shot 49 of them and told the 50th one to go tell his friend what he had seen….the story was a lie but he kept telling it anyway.
    The one where he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave in NY and get away with it.

    His supporters cheered this crap like war painted crazed Zulus dancing around the camp fire.

    The Trump supporters cheering on his psychopathic rants are every bit as stupid as he is.

  594. @Dexter

    You’re apparently too much of a cuck to notice that Jewish liberals, whose interests you serve, are adherents of the “America was founded on genocide” myth.

  595. @Colin Wright

    The joke is that Trump picked Mike Pence as his vice-President to ensure that he wouldn’t get assassinated . But seriously we have some very scary psychopaths running our foreign policy . Mike Pence is said to be a member of a “doomsday cult” . Mike Pompeo has said Trump was sent by God to save Israel from Iran and has spoken of the “rapture ” . Mark Esper is a former executive with Raytheon which will profit handsomely from more wars in the Middle East and Jared Kushner is a member of Chabad-Lubavitch which is said to be planning World War 3 . These people have no interest in peace , they want a cataclysmic war .

    henrymakow.com : “Insider : Trump family cult is planning WW3”:
    “We are in real danger . A crazed religious wants to sink the ship and set humanity back a hundred years ”
    While there is profit in war , there will be no peace – Trump has boasted of his prowess in selling weapons systems .

  596. Poco says:
    @Dexter

    Free and peaceful Iranian people means subject to jewish banking cabal. Another population to exploit.

  597. Poco says:
    @renfro

    Never vote in American national elections. Only local ones. De-legitimize a repugnant, bought and paid for government.
    Your local elections may be sketchy as well but voting at that level may have an impact on your own life.
    Change has to come from below. We have been trying for decades to change things from the top, down. It’s been futile.

  598. annamaria says:
    @Dexter

    “…anti-jewish haters and race baiters in order to convince the uneducated the history they failed to learn well over the past 80 years is wrong”

    — You mean, you are the educated one and all “others” are uneducated?

    Your tribe put itself on a pedestal as the “most moral and most victimized” and made a nice gesheft (see holobiz) on the professing the “exceptional Jewish morality and exceptional Jewish victimhood.”
    Still demanding the “reparations” while attacking the First Amendment?
    You have not addressed the main point of my post:

    Your holobiz indoctrination does not allow you to recognize the ongoing “nazi experiment” (Milgram study) that Israel has been running on the Palestinians. Your Jewish Bolsheviks were the principal organizers of the genocidal bloodbath in Russia, while the sanctimonious zionists have been the main pushers for the mass murder of the civilian populations in Germany, Iraq, and Syria.

    The US could have had a mutually beneficial partnership with Russia and Iran. Instead, the rabid war-mongering zionists have been pushing for wars with the “Amalek” Russia and the “Amalek” Iran.

    Just think for a sec about Anne Frank’s dad’ business acumen or the origin of the ADL: https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

  599. annamaria says:
    @Momus

    You are welcome. There are more than enough proof of the nature of zionist character from the “most moral” IDF exploits on the occupied territories:
    “Israel’s incremental genocide in the Gaza ghetto:” https://electronicintifada.net/content/israels-incremental-genocide-gaza-ghetto/13562
    “IDF defends intel for Gaza strike that killed 9 Palestinian civilians [including five children]:” https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-defends-intel-for-gaza-strike-that-killed-9-palestinian-civilians/
    The Jewish State and holobiz:
    “Israel Is Arming Ukraine’s Blatantly Neo-Nazi Militia, the Azov Battalion:” https://imemc.org/article/israel-is-arming-ukraines-blatantly-neo-nazi-militia-the-azov-battalion/
    By the way, how are Mr. Pollard and Ms. Maxwell doing?

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  600. @Daniel Rich

    You can safely assume that everything the government tells is a lie. As the saying goes, “it ain’t true unless the government denies it”.

    • Replies: @Onebornfree
  601. @renfro

    jDear renfro and Daniel Rich!

    Re; Engineered “blackout” on the murdered US Contractor.

    https://247sports.com/board/103782/Contents/james-bidens-15b-contract-to-build-in-iraq-136994272/

    Thanks to having perused John LeCarre’s fiction novel, “The Little Drummer Girl,” I have learned to distrust anything that ZUS and Israel routinely do; i.e., supplant objectice truth by sensational & evidence-free Mossad deception.

    Question logically becomes: So who was the murdered US contractor? Linked below & fyr is a M.I.A. report on ZUS Senator & Democrat presidential candidate, Joe Biden’s brother, James.

    Logically on persistent lookout, 🕵I reckon that the dead US contractor might have had embarrassing links to James Biden’s windfall housing construction project in Iraq.

    Uh, (Zigh), a subsequent question. How can masses of flummoxed American dumb goyim rediscover & crave for solid evidence before their zionized president & Knesset Congress West lunges for their scalps.

    Thanks & my respect to Daniel Rich, renfro, and geokat.

    P.S.: Am celebrating Russian Christmas today, and regrettably, I fear Russia might become subject to a very weird “terrorist” attack which might help ZUS & Israel👺 in getting President Putin to “cast a cold eye” upon Iran. Englishman W.B. Yeats, “Sailing to Byzantium.”

  602. Momus says:
    @renfro

    Why not read some of the mainstream and specialist media instead of dumb speculation?

    There is a lot of accurate, corroborated information on the chain of events.

    Soleimani was not exactly a shrinking violet.

  603. Ahoy says:

    @ Chuck Orloski

    Merry Christmas Chuck!

    VVP in his Christmas address to the nation sent his Christmas greetings to the Orthodox Christians on earth not to Russians specifically.

    Thank you for the connotation in the meaning of the term “Deep State”.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  604. @Ahoy

    Thanks Ahoy, am glad VVP did so because such goodwill offering also presumably pertains to Brother Nathanael Kapner.

    As you can now better understand, people’s proclivity to use the name “Deep State” provides nifty coverage for what international Supremacist Jews do and unaccoutably plan to do. 👺 Target Iran.

    Thanks, Ahoy, “The Christ is born; Glorify Him!”

  605. Onebornfree says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN

    AnonFromTN says: “You can safely assume that everything the government tells is a lie. As the saying goes, “it ain’t true unless the government denies it”.”

    Regards,onebornfree

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  606. @Onebornfree

    Good to know I am not alone. Unfortunately, this applies to any government, not just American. In that you were always right. However, the government is a necessary evil. As the examples of Somalia and Libya show, even a bad government is better than none at all.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Onebornfree
  607. @niceland

    An Iraqi official says that if a retaliation is followed by a US attack on numerous Iranian sites, Iran will ‘level Tel Aviv and Haifa.’ My question is whether they have that capability. I tend to doubt that Iranian missiles are advanced enough for that to be a credible threat. I would expect an Irani attack to shake a few windows and raise some dust in the desert, nothing more.
    Am I right?

  608. @jack daniels

    ‘… I would expect an Irani attack to shake a few windows and raise some dust in the desert, nothing more.
    Am I right?’

    You’re probably not right. In 2006, Hezbollah inflicted some pain with their rockets, including taking out twenty or so soldiers waiting in Israel to move up to the front.

    That was fourteen years and a whole lot of Iranian arms convoys ago.

    Today, I imagine Hezbollah could kill several hundred Jews for Iran, if they felt so inclined.

    That’s why this war will have to be fought to the last American. Do you realize just how much more valuable a Jewish soul is than a gentile one?

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  609. @AnonFromTN

    Yo AnonFromTN!

    Question. Was Khaddafy’s Libya “bad government”?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  610. @ChuckOrloski

    You have a point. Gaddafi’s was one of the best (if not the best) governments in Africa. As a matter of fact, it favorably compares with many non-African governments, including “our dear friends the Saudis”.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Iris
  611. @jack daniels

    You are forgetting that Persians are not Arabs. When they shoot, they usually hit the target. That’s exactly what makes rabid Zionists so scared of them.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  612. @Colin Wright

    Agree, Kushner belongs to the Chabad a kabal that sees we goyim as animals and insects and one finger nail is worth more that all the goyim.

  613. Theodore says:

    Another war for Israel? Great

    Iraq: A War For Israel
    http://archive.is/I7KxV

    America’s ‘war on terror’ has cost the US nearly $6 trillion since 9/11
    http://archive.is/bR6fq

  614. @AnonFromTN

    Fyi, Cynthia McKinney liked Khaddafy’s government.

    Also, AnonFromTN, I routinely have a good point.👍!

  615. Iris says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Gaddafi’s was one of the best (if not the best) governments in Africa.

    Gaddafi’s government was one of the best in the world, not just in Africa.

    These are a few rights Libyans benefited from under late President Gaddafi:

    – A home was considered a basic human right: every couple getting married would get a free house and a lump sum (around $100,000) to start their new married life.
    – Education (including university) and medical treatment were all free.
    – Starting a farming business was subsidised: any Libyan wanting to do so would be given a house, farm land, livestock and seeds, all free of charge.
    – A bursary was given to mothers with new-born babies (around $5000)
    – Electricity was completely free
    – Petrol was heavily subsidised (around $0.14 per litre).
    – Gaddafi raised the literacy level from under 25% to 87%, with 25% earning university degrees.
    – Any Libyan accepted in a Western university was granted a free, non-reimbursable bursary by the Libyan state, equivalent to a salary.
    – Libya had its own state bank; Gaddafi did not waste Libya’s money paying interests to predatory international finance.
    – Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project to transform his country and improve the life of his citizens even in remote places of the Sahara.

    Do you benefit of all this in the US?

    In Europe, we certainly don’t. We live in Shylockracies where politicians excel in extracting the last shred of wealth from hard-working people, in order to pay interests to their banking masters. Gaddafi’s Libya was a social paradise in comparison.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  616. niceland says:
    @jack daniels

    My knowledge about missiles and warfare in general is very close to zero. I can only speculate.

    It’s undisputed they have plenty of missiles and have been developing them for decades. They also have space program and seem to be able to launch satellites (and monkeys) to low orbit, indicating somewhat advanced missile technology. They have tested missiles reportedly flying close to 2000 km – more than enough to reach Israel with 1-2000lb payloads.

    As far as I know it takes enormous amount of conventional explosives to level a city. And to do it from 800 miles away requires huge and very expensive arsenal of mid range missiles. If Iran is under serious attack from the U.S. I think they have much more pressing usages for their missiles than hitting cities in Israel. I bet they would focus them on carefully selected targets. Military installations, power plants, oil refineries, etc.

    The question is what Iran allies much closer to Israel will do and what they are capable of. If we consider the recent attack from the Houths in Yemen on Saudi oil infrastructure with surprising accuracy with drones and cruise missiles 500 miles away, they can probably hurt Israel a lot. But again I imagine such attacks would be against selected ‘high profile’ targets to instill terror or perhaps pave the way for more conventional warfare.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @jack daniels
  617. Dannyboy says:
    @Harbinger

    This is the bitter fruit of what is called “democracy”.

    Americans get to choose from Jew Bought Leftist Stooge A or Jew Bought Fake Conservative/Leftist Stooge B.

    Each stooge must be vetted by the Deep State.

    Donald Trump’s problem was that he was a “wildcard”, who might actually do a few things the American people wished. This was certainly the case leading up to the election and for maybe six months to a year into his Presidency. The Russian Collusion/Phony Impeachment Circus and his own weakness has driven him into the arms of the Neocons, who hated him from the outset. They will however be delighted to use him for their own purposes and then discard him.

    The system of “governance” currently known in the West as democracy, aka. “liberal democracy” is essentially crony Capitalism and shitty Enlightenment philosophy combined with Jewish Frankfurt School hatred.

    The entire sick façade has to come crumbling down for there to be any sort of real change.

  618. anastasia says:

    Absolutely correct. More than ever, they have to look over their shoulders. How could they not know that when Saudi Arabia acknowledged in 2018 that that would happen if Soleimani was assassinated. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-12/2bn-saudi-plan-assassinate-iranian-officials-involved-erik-prince-and-trump

    Obama considered Iran such a “non-threat” that he was wanting to remove US troops and “pass the baton” to Iran to take care of the terrorists. His only concern was that Iran did not have nuclear weapons. That was the extent that he was willing to protect Israel. This infuriated Israel. Is it any wonder how Trump got in office. If there was interference in the election, Russian interference is an obvious distraction from the real interference, which is bound to happen in the next election.

    The US fails to recognize the fact that there are a substantial number of Shia Muslims in all these countries, Syria, Yemen, Iraq and even Saudi Arabia. The US simply does not recognize that unalterable fact, and does not consider them at all in any country. . it would be natural for Iran to try to represent their interests – to give them political clout.

    Saudi Arabia is probably the sneakiest nation on earth, a nation with no conscience – probably one of the worst nations on earth for any ordinary person to live.

  619. Onebornfree says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN

    AnonFromTN says: “the government is a necessary evil.”

    Well, as you might have guessed by now , I disagree with that entirely. However, it’s not a discussion that I’m prepared to get into here, for various reasons [ mostly time/money].

    All I’m willing to offer in my “defense”of my opinion here is my [much maligned] “ridiculous” assertion :

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt  criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.”   onebornfree

    “And……..: “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.”      Albert J. Nock

    And…….: “Government  is a disease masquerading as its own cure”  Robert LeFevere

    And there’s plenty more where those came from 😊

    Regards, onebornfree

  620. @Iris

    A lot of things you say remind me of the USSR, except that students weren’t allowed to go to Western Universities. Soviet people had free healthcare, free education at all levels, ridiculously cheap housing, child care, etc. This “paradise” had downsides, though, some due to stupidity of powers that be, others inherent to the system. I think the most important one was inherent: this level of equality means that you have to take away from productive people to give freebies to lazy good-for-nothings. Thus, there was built-in counter-incentive for productivity: the more you work, the more you contribute, while getting virtually the same things as dumb and lazy parasites. This made “socialism” loser-oriented society. Libya has relatively small population, so it could support that system by selling oil, while importing foreigners to do the work (like KSA). But to become generally applicable, this system needs strong incentives rewarding smart and productive people for their superior contribution.

    I am not saying that “liberal democracy” has these incentives: it’s current variety rewards thieves and fraudsters, giving only crumbs to those who actually work. But before the downfall of the USSR Western capitalism behaved more sensibly, even creating the middle class, which is being robbed and eroded now. Paradoxically, the downfall of the USSR was the beginning of the end of the West.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  621. geokat62 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Paradoxically, the downfall of the USSR was the beginning of the end of the West.

    The destruction of the middle class began well before the fall of the Soviet Union. Wall Street initiated the Great Labour Arbitrage in the late 70s, offshoring manufacturing jobs to China and IT jobs to India. This is what sealed the fate of the middle class.

    Beyond the economic downfall, however, the impetus for the cultural destruction of the West was initiated by the Frankfurt School. They unleashed the poison of egalitarianism into the West’s bloodstream… and we’ve all been reaping the harvest ever since.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @annamaria
  622. @geokat62

    Hey geo!

    Am hopeful AnonFromTN is grateful for the ZUS economic downfall (beginnings) education that you rendered unto him/her.

    Then, 🙌, you introduced the Frankfurt School’s engineered the “cultural destruction of the West.”

    Good news today on Russian Christmas Day, and I reckon your Canadian starlight might shine upon AnonFromTN. Thanks & my respect,

    • Thanks: geokat62
  623. Hail says: • Website
    @A123

    Iran started this

    beginning of the end of the authoritarian rule of bloodthirsty Ayatollahs

    This