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If you want to know how the United States wound up with “government by stupid” one need only look no farther than some of the recent propaganda put out by members of Congress, senior military officers and a certain former president. President George W. Bush, who started the whole sequence of events that have culminated in the disaster that is Afghanistan, is not yet in prison, but one can always hope.

Regarding the current crisis, former FBI special agent and 9/11 whistleblower Coleen Rowley cited Richard W. Behan who mused over “How perverse we have become. We chastise President Biden for a messy ending of the war in Afghanistan and fail to indict George Bush for its illegal beginning.” She then observed, in her own words on Facebook, “So Rehabilitated War Criminal Bush can maintain his legacy as stalwart statesman as he cutely dances with Ellen DeGeneris and Michelle Obama on television screens. Washington is just a big fact-free political show where the blame game winners are the best manipulators.”

I would add to that the hubris of the “Mission Accomplished” banner on the tower of an aircraft carrier as Bush, wearing a flight suit, inaccurately announced victory and an end of combat in Afghanistan, presumably so he could focus on his new war in Iraq. As the Taliban had not attacked or threatened America, had no means of doing so, and were even willing to turn over “their guest” Osama bin Laden to US justice after the bombing of the USS Cole in late 2000, they were hardly a formidable foe. The Bush Administration refused the offer to surrender bin Laden on four occasions before 9/11 and once more five days after the attack because it wanted a war. Given all of that backstory, what Bush and his posse of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Tenet, Feith, Powell and Libby did was indisputably a war crime. And they followed up with fake intelligence to justify a second war against Saddam Hussein, who had also sought to avoid war by offering to go into voluntary exile. The Nuremberg tribunals considered aggressive war against an unthreatening nation to be the ultimate war crime. That would make it an ultimate war crime times two, not to mention the killing of civilians and torture that went along with it. And President Barack Obama added to that toll by subsequently destroying an unthreatening Libya. Unfortunately, many of those war criminals from the Bush and Obama cliques who are still alive are sitting fat and pretty in retirement or in lucrative private sector positions while the only ones who have been punished are the whistleblowers who tried to stop the madness.

George W. Bush is not particularly good at apologies so it is not surprising that he did not deliver one regarding the war he unnecessarily started and even more unnecessarily prolonged through the US occupation. In his view, the US should now remain in Afghanistan and he claims to be worrying about what will happen to Afghan women in particular and to the growing number of refugees, who he opines should be allowed to enter the United States. His statement includes a tip of the hat to the armed forces: “Many of you deal with wounds of war, both visible and invisible… And some of your brothers and sisters in arms made the ultimate sacrifice in the war on terror. Each day, we have been humbled by your commitment and your courage. You took out a brutal enemy and denied Al Qaeda a safe haven while building schools, sending supplies, and providing medical care. You kept America safe from further terror attacks, provided two decades of security and opportunity for millions, and made America proud. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts and will always honor your contributions.”

The delusional Bush makes it all sound like a mission of mercy which inter alia destroyed a ruthless enemy preparing to strike and kept America free of terror, none of which is true but it certainly sounds nice. But what is really interesting is how the fall of Afghanistan is being used by some to hype Bush’s war on terror, making the case that it is now more important than ever to strengthen US counterterrorism efforts. Which is another way of saying, “keep the cash flowing!” Those who have a vested interest in the war on terror are warning that the Taliban’s rapid takeover of Afghanistan has raised concerns relating to a possible resurgence of terror groups that might once again use the country as a home base. The frequently wrong on every issue General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has said that “the United States could now face a rise in terrorist threats from a Taliban-run Afghanistan.”

Of course, if that were the case, Afghanistan might well face a bout of heavy strategic bombing by the United States, so there is not exactly an incentive for them to do something that provocative. Nor do they have the resources to act outside their own borders and they presumably would not welcome any of their “guests” provoking another US invasion.

Milley’s dumb comments on Afghanistan, to include the astonishingly wrong claim that US intelligence did not report in extenso the sorry state of the Afghan Army and the imminent collapse of the government, demonstrate that ignorance on major issues relating to foreign policy is not limited to those who call themselves Republicans. Secretary of State Tony Blinken insists that the retreat from Kabul is not a replay of Saigon, nor were the withdrawal plans, such as they existed, “botched.” Word in Washington is that Blinken will be the designated fall guy for the disaster to protect his boss.

Apart from the Afghanistan fiasco, stupid extends to how the government operates, particularly in Congress. In a recent memo to supporters and constituents Virginia Democratic Senator Mark Warner, who heads the Senate Intelligence committee described his top priorities. Three of them are quite interesting. They are: “(1) Root out anti-government extremism, including the white nationalist militias who participated in the January 6th insurrection at our Capitol; (2) Rebuild intelligence community agencies and departments that were understaffed and under-resourced in the previous administration, and (3) Depoliticize our intelligence-gathering apparatus, so these tireless and patriotic public servants can stay above the partisan fray and focus on their jobs: defending the American homeland.”

Enough has been said about the Democratic Party’s obsession with putting white Americans in their proper place, which is some deep hole where they can be ignored and berated as necessary. Purges are already taking place at the Pentagon and at the Justice and Homeland Security Departments. But Warner’s stated “priority” to engage in the rebuilding of an intelligence community that has seen its budget grow year after year comes as somewhat of a surprise. Perhaps it needs the extra cash to root-out those pesky whites. And finally, “depoliticizing” intelligence gathering has to be something of a joke, coming as it does from the party that did the most to politicize it in the first place under President Barack Obama working hand-in-hand with the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign to promote the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. I suppose Senator Warner does not see the party in power using the CIA, NSA and FBI to discredit an opponent and destroy his campaign as politicization. Or you can always blame it on the Russians.

All in all, we have had a fine team working in harmony to protect the American people. Hopefully the time they spend in prison somewhere down the road will not discourage them and they will emerge with their brilliant insights fully intact. With leaders like Bush, Milley, Blinken and Warner, what could possibly go wrong?

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. How about some accountability for Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?

    Sure, right after we cut off aid to Israel.

  2. It’s not exactly accurate to claim the Taliban were willing to turn over bin Laden to the US after 9/11. This is the Guardian’s version of their position as of October 14, 2001:

    ‘…The Taliban would be ready to discuss handing over Osama bin Laden to a neutral country if the US halted the bombing of Afghanistan, a senior Taliban official said today.

    ‘Afghanistan’s deputy prime minister, Haji Abdul Kabir, told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US.

    ‘”If the Taliban is given evidence that Osama bin Laden is involved” and the bombing campaign stopped, “we would be ready to hand him over to a third country”, Mr Kabir added.

    ‘But it would have to be a state that would never “come under pressure from the United States”, he said.

    ‘Mr Kabir urged America to halt its air campaign, now in its eighth day, and open negotiations. “If America were to step back from the current policy, then we could negotiate,” he said. “Then we could discuss which third country.”…’

    It would appear to be more accurate to say that the Taliban was prepared to prevaricate in exchange for a halt in the bombing campaign. We would have been free to stop bombing them and then begin arguing about the evidence.

  3. Expecting accountability for American forever wars in the ME is in fact akin to holding the real force fueling such wars to account: Israel. They are above the law. Please stop fantasizing Dr. Giraldi.

    • Replies: @aj54
    , @Three of Swords
  4. aandrews says:

    A little detail…

    The Taliban Surrendered in 2001
    Richard W. Behan
    August 18, 2021

    At a U.S. Special Forces camp near Kandahar, Afghanistan, on December 5, 2001, the Taliban offered an unconditional surrender. Furthermore, they would disband and disarm: a military force would no longer exist.

    George W. Bush ignored the offer and continued attacking the Taliban until the end of his term. If only in self-defense the Taliban fought back, eventually regaining the battlefield initiative. Barack Obama fought the Taliban for eight years more. Donald Trump did so for the next four.

    Twenty years later, after the squandering of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars, President Biden withdrew American troops from Afghanistan—and drew angry criticism for the chaotic exit that followed.

    Anand Gopal, an American journalist, tells the story with unusual authority. He moved to Afghanistan in 2008, learned the language, and for four years he traveled the country freely.

    His book appeared in 2014: No Good Men Among the Living: America, the Taliban, and the War Through Afghan Eyes.

    It relates the Taliban’s surrender:

    • Replies: @aandrews
  5. mephisto says:

    “The Evil…?”
    I stopped reading there. The author is clearly a Jesus Freak. There is no good or evil, just survival , you moron. The sooner you realize that, the longer your kind will survive.
    Didn’t Nietszche teach you to define your own morals? No wonder why you and your kind keep losing and being dominated. Just hopeless.

  6. Rooster11 says:

    Yes there will be accountability right after the American people rise up!… Right after we figure out which family member has had the shot! And if Aaron Rodgers is going to play!… And what friend said what on Facebook!

    Folks, America is dead and long gone. Prepare now, we’re in the beginning of the end. Demographics are destiny, and we’re sorely outnumbered at this point.

    • Agree: Ace, Thim
    • Replies: @profnasty
  7. Word in Washington is that Blinken will be the designated fall guy for the disaster to protect his boss.

    More likely, the Power will use the debacle to remove Biden and replace him with Harris, or the Camel.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Maddaugh
  8. Little bit short but still brilliant article.
    George is cynic with exceptionally low intelligence.
    George was horribly upset that his father did not get a second term.
    That is why he decided on vengeance on American people.
    Al Gore would have been thousand times better president.

    • Agree: profnasty
    • Replies: @Rich
  9. What about our war in Syria that began in 2011 and is not over?

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @BL
  10. It’s not so much stupidity as fear of Jewish Power.

    No one wants to do say or do anything that upsets or offends the Jews. Such cravenness can only lead to stupid words and deeds since everything in the US is calibrated in service of “Is it good for Jews?”

    Not very different from SPACEBALLS?

  11. George W Bush’s favorite Entertainment was not Jeopardy but WWF Wrestling and its cast of –The Towers of Doom, Diesel, Big Boss Man, Dink and Doink, Undertaker, Hulk Hogan, Ted Dibiassi, Honky Tonk Man, Bastion Booger and Mankind among others—. Now Marvin Bush was at the Trade Centers as Head of Security and there you have it —the perfect cover for a dumb audience —–bring on the dynamite and wires —we’re gonna have some loud explosions and then—it was all Planned by some illiterate goat herders in the backdrops of Afghanistan—-

    • Agree: Gidoutahere, Druid55
  12. TG says:

    “How about some accountability for Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?”

    What are you, a white supremacist?

  13. “I would add to that the hubris of the “Mission Accomplished” banner on the tower of an aircraft carrier as Bush, wearing a flight suit, inaccurately announced victory and an end of combat in Afghanistan, presumably so he could start his new war in Iraq.”

    The Shrub had his “mission accomplished ” photo op after the invasion of Iraq. It was not a prelude to the Iraq invasion, it was its aftermath.

  14. Here is what really happened Mr. Giraldi.

    The deep state, with clear continuity, decided under Trump to change strategy and tactics.

    “Trump” made the deal with the Taliban and “Biden” carried out the deal, to the current withdrawal.

    “Bush” carried out plans conceived under “Clinton” to invade Afghanistan, using September 11th as the pretext.

    “Obama” tried to hold the territory with new surge tactics, which failed. So, the deep state changed the overall strategy and a change of tactics followed.

    Above all, our pundits must keep in place the key propaganda frame that there is a “Democrat” foreign policy and a “Republican” foreign policy.

    Who negotiated NAFTA? Bush I. Who carried out NAFTA? Clinton.

    Who instigated the support for the mujahdeen? Carter. Who continued that policy? Reagan.

    Who began the attack on wikileaks? Who continued it? Why the attack? NOT because of Assange, but because of the ideology of Assange: transparency.

    Without transparency the Deep State is safe to continue its manipulation of the puppets put in place to be the public face of policy, basically to “Say Words”.

    We are left to guess the next move, but that move will be made coldly, intelligently, and based upon solid evidence and vast human and technical resources. The Deep State is not haphazard, not foolish, and they are prepared for every conceivable response to their moves. That doesn’t mean they don’t lose a pawn or two. It does mean they remain in complete control of their side of the game. On the other side is not one but other deep state players of other power centers.

    Anybody who believes that the game we see is the real game is either a fool, or worse, a pawn whose job is to fool others.

  15. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:

    Jeezus effing Christ can you please stop with the “mission accomplished” crap? The ship’s crew had finished a 6 month cruise. Their mission was accomplished.

    • Agree: lee
    • LOL: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @Fred777
    , @WJ
  16. JackOH says:

    “The Bush Administration refused the offer to surrender bin Laden on four occasions before 9/11 and once more five days after the attack because it wanted a war.”

    Phil, I did not know that.

    I’m getting too old, I guess. I desperately don’t want to believe the America I live in is capable of decisions that would make murderous dictators beam.

    • Replies: @aj54
  17. Alfred says:

    For a good feel for the delusions of the British ruling class as regards its position in the world, this piece is a good start. It analyses a recent article by the chief promoter of the invasion of Afghanistan – Tony Blair.

    Here is the incredible article by this war criminal – Tony Blair

    Britain loses patience with Sleepy Joe: Tony Blair brands Biden’s decision to quit Afghanistan ‘imbecilic’ amid claims Boris remarked ‘we would be better off with Trump’

    After Fall of Kabul Blair Rebukes Biden, Call to End Forever Wars “Imbecilic” Wants War Without End

    • Replies: @Justrambling
  18. I think the jig is up but they’ll keep on going. I don’t think it is possible for America to change course. America’s European allies are pretending to be shocked but they went along with it. This wasn’t “government by the stupid” but “government by grifters.” Matthew Hoh told Scott Horton that people agreed with him on Afghanistan but they continued to grift for the Afghan war nevertheless, so they knew what they were doing. They are like cancer cells that have beaten the body’s immune system.

    No one should sign up for the US military. It should be actively discouraged. No one is going to invade the US. Support the troops by helping them get out of the US military. Friends don’t let friends join the US military!

    Nuremberg tribunals, I wish!

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  19. Anon62 says:

    Apart from the Afghanistan fiasco, stupid extends to how the government operates . . . With leaders like Bush, Milley, Blinken and Warner, what could possibly go wrong?

    The US departure from Afghanistan is not driven by false concerns over US casualties, or US defence expenditures. The primary reason for the disengagement is to free US military capabilities to focus on China and to undermine China’s continued rise.

    The reasons for this switch in focus are two-fold.

    First, an investment in Lockheed Martin at the start of the Afghan war delivered a total return of 1,235.60 percent over the period of this conflict.

    As Julian Assange observed in 2011:

    “The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war.”

    You can only drive the defence sector to ever greater finacial heights if you switch focus to a peer competitor and China is that peer competitor, the sole true threat to the present unipolar hegemon.

    Second, “stupid extends to how the government operates.” With an American electorate that tolerates over-investment in the defence sector and under-investment in the educational sector, how will it be possible for America to compensate with an ever increasing intelligence gap against a merit based nation such as China which is already either a peer technology competitor or has already surpassed US capabilities in a variety of areas?

    Add in the increasing obesity of Americans which is making it difficult for the US military to source recruits plus the continued intellectual impoverishment resulting from the “dumbing down” of American education due to the removal of all merit based pre-qualification testing, final examinations, and advanced curricula elements, all deemed to be racist, and the question needs to be asked: “If America cannot win militarily against a backward nation of impoverished 18th century goat herders how can it expect to win militarily against an advanced peer competitor such as China?”

    With leaders like those America presently has, what could possibly go wrong?

    • Agree: phillip sawicki
  20. Franz says:

    Where’s Gerald Nye When We Need Him? Nye Committee’s 1936 Report on Banksters’, Arms Dealers’ Warmongering

    https://www.winterwatch.net/2021/04/wheres-gerald-nye-when-we-need-him-nye-committees-1936-report-on-banksters-arms-dealers-warmongering/

    What Nye did after World War I we need now: Investigate ALL the lice, including the Agencies that hide behind their TOP SECRET clearances — the ones that became redundant after 1989.

    And the billionaire donors and G W Bush and his shit eating grin.

  21. anon[350] • Disclaimer says:

    Our civilian leadership should be held accountable for a long list of war crimes. At the Tokyo War Crimes Trials, a Japanese civilian cabinet minister named Hirota who was actually against the war was found guilty and received the death penalty. Its worth re-examining his case – https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:277515

    It goes without saying that our Military & National Security leadership should also be held to account for war crimes. The cases of General Yamashita and more recently of General Kristic lay out command responsibility of the General Staff.

    In addition, basically anyone associated with our Special Forces and Seals is also responsible for war crimes. The roving death squads and torture chambers of these death squads are well known. USFM 27-10 lays out the ground work for the obligations of the occupying power.(that would be us)

    Finally, the academics, pundits, publishers, and journalists braying for war can also be held to account for war crimes. The case of Julius Streicher is also a example – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

    Until we as a people hold our war criminals to account, their crimes will always besmirch our nation. Of note, war crimes have no statute of limitation. In Germany today some 100 year old camp guard is being tried for WWII war crimes.

    • Agree: nokangaroos, Druid55
  22. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    Outstanding piece here. But one small issue… you omitted Syria from the list of horrors that that scroungy Obama should be tried for. Oh and Yemen too.. Those were two other horrors of the creation of the fools who run Washington. I guess Syria was for Israel and Yemen for our good friends the Saudis, where the actual terrorists mostly came from for the cause belli… or whatever 9/11 was….

    A lot of Trump haters everywhere here… but sweet Jesus.. the system tried to impeach him or investigate him for four solid years… While the list of criminals you list above and two filthy criminal Presidents with trillion dollar wars to their credit had what exactly happen to them? Yesterday a scroungy little piece of shit, Michael Hayden… said that non Vaxed Trump supporters should be sent to Afghanistan… or rather upvoted a Twat… or is it Tweet.. This little shit never served in combat himself but helped to give you the security state that Warner… another little turd of non accomplishment except to grift off his government contacts is now attempting to secure more firmly against white men…

    People talk about the fall of the US… is anything of what we have worth saving? This fucking government?

    Noo…

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Thanks: Rurik
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  23. Eklan says:

    >>> Slowly but surely, the scenario predicted by the Fatima prophecy of 1917 is unfolding before our very eyes. I myself never imagined that the “errors of Russia” would spread to the United States under the guise of “political correctness”, but it’s happened. The neo-Bolsheviks have even succeeded in hijacking the American presidency!

    Only this prayer will bring lasting peace:

    “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, send now Your Spirit over the earth.

    Let the Holy Spirit live in the hearts of all nations, that they may be preserved from degeneration, disaster and war.

    May the Lady of All Nations, who once was Mary, be our Advocate.

    Amen.” <<<

    FYI: exactly ten years before communism came to an end in Eastern Europe in 1989, Pope John-Paul II made the following invocation during an outdoor Mass in Warsaw (June 2nd 1979):

    "And I cry — I who am a Son of the land of Poland and who am also Pope John Paul II — I cry from all the depths of this Millennium, I cry on the vigil of Pentecost:

    Let your Spirit descend.
    Let your Spirit descend,
    and renew the face of the earth,
    the face of this land.

    Amen."

    • Disagree: Thim
    • Replies: @Rocha
    , @Gapeseed
    , @anonymous
  24. Wokechoke says:

    Accountability? The odd thing is that most actively and consciously racist white people are keen to support the Biden policy of bugging out of Afghanistan. The people who will snap, conducting bombing campaigns and sundry assassinations will be people invested in the idea that Afghans are really poor misunderstood Liberal cosmopolitans. Oh the sweet irony. The bitter irony will be how these lunatics are reframed as racist whites by the authorities when the true beleiver snaps.

  25. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    Accountability? Oh hell, let’s start with Henry Kissinger, butcher par excellence, before we work our way up to Bush & Associates.

  26. gotmituns says:

    accountability
    ————————-
    There was a movie years ago entitled, “15 Minutes.” In it, the bad guy, a Russian pyromaniac says the following, “I love America, nobody’s responsible for anything.” How very true.

  27. geokat62 says:

    How about some accountability for Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?

    … as well as:

    Syria
    Great Society, incl. Hart-Celler
    JFK
    USS Liberty
    Great Labour Offshoring (mfg to China, IT to India)
    911
    Anthrax attacks
    CRT

    … all brought to you by Jewish Supremacist Organizations!

    • Agree: Druid55
  28. Anon[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @mephisto

    Jesus freak? More like William Shakespeare, “the evil that men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with their bones. So let it be with Caesar.

    • Replies: @DrWatson
    , @Stan
  29. Sarah says:

    As the Taliban had not attacked or threatened America, had no means of doing so.

    The same goes for all the small countries that the US has attacked, destroyed or colonized: Philippines, Korea, Vietnam, Lao, Cambodia, Iraq, Libya, Syria: none of them was a threat to the US.

    Do you remember a single war where the US was threatened with invasion on its soil?
    There are only two countries that could militarily invade the US: Canada and Mexico; has this ever happened?

    The role of an army is to protect its country and its citizens against foreign invasion, but the US army has always served as an army of attack, invasion and colonization of other countries.

    • Replies: @moi
    , @Druid55
    , @annamaria
  30. Amerimutts deserve neither to live nor to enter Heaven

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/retired-navy-seals-post-about-afghanistan-imagining-he-was-president-goes-viral

    Imagine being the tip of the dildo for the world largest homo terrorist organization and acting tuf like this, lel

    This is like those barking dogs on the Chinese afternoon market. They are just instinctively screaming before they are butchered.

    • Replies: @beavertales
  31. Robjil says:
    @mephisto

    Evil is a concept in many religions.

    Ancient Egyptians were very moral. To get to the afterlife, one had to do good.

    https://ancientegyptonline.co.uk/maat/

    Each Egyptian’s soul was judged in the Hall of Maat (depicted in the book of the dead and book five of the book of gates) when they died. Their heart (conscience) was weighed against the feather of Ma’at (an ostrich feather) on scales which represented balance and justice. If their heart was heavier than the feather because they had failed to live a balanced life by the principles of Ma’at their heart was either thrown into a lake of fire or devoured by a fearsome deity known as Ammit. If, however, the heart balanced with the feather of Ma’at they would pass the test and gain eternal life. At certain times it was Osiris who sat as judge in the ritual, and many other deities were involved in the ceremony, but the scales always represented Maat.

    No one gets away with evil. It is the way the world works. Neocons should be thinking about this.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  32. Sarah says:

    As the Taliban had not attacked or threatened America, had no means of doing so.

    The same goes for all the nations that the US threatens to attack: Iran, China, North-Korea, Russia.

    Do you seriously believe that Iran or North-Korea can declare war on the US? This is ridiculous.

    China, North-Korea and Russia constantly repeat that their nuclear weapons are weapons of deterrence.
    The US is the only country where the so-called “elites” plan to use the atomic bomb as a first strike or “preventive” weapon (horror).

    • Replies: @Resartus
  33. profnasty says:

    Trump supporters must hang together.
    All we need is a candidate.
    Nimrod is in DC and all White lives are in danger. The government injection is murder. Let that be the hill we fight and die on.
    A new party under a strong patriotic leader.
    Wouldn’t it be nice.

  34. profnasty says:
    @Colin Wright

    What does Osama Bin Laden have to do with it? Israel bombed the WTC. Shouldn’t we have gone after them? Hmmm?

  35. Spot on, Philip Giraldi. We have finally achieved “government by stupid”.

    Onward to Peak Stupid! Where is Forrest Gump when we so badly need him in the White House?

    Nicely written article. Yet again.

  36. profnasty says:
    @mephisto

    To force free and healthy people to be injected with genetic drugs is Evil. To bomb people for political purposes is Evil.
    “G_d’s” people don’t seem to have a problem with it. So, who exactly is running this hot dog stand?

    • Agree: Alfred, Biff
  37. Alfred says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s not exactly accurate to claim the Taliban were willing to turn over bin Laden to the US after 9/11.

    That is a red herring – as you know very well. Troll!

    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  38. How refreshing to read Girardi’s article here without his usual jew baiting. I couldn’t agree more than that George Bush is a war criminal, the worst president of our history, now sitting at home and painting bluebonnets. If Trump can be impeached after leaving office as he was, why not Bush? Not being a lawyer I wonder if there is any legal crime he could be indicted for, convicted and serve the rest of his life in prison. I read somewhere recently that at the time 90% of Americans polled supported the Afghanistan war. That figure surprises me; I would have thought 99% supported the war. It seems that black congresswoman Barbara Lee was the only member of Congress who voted against it. I knew at that time that Afghanistan was the grave of empires, the British in the 19th century, the Soviets in recent times. I had existential dread at what would be forthcoming but what could I do as a private powerless citizen? Same scenario for Iraq 2 years later and the same sense of existential dread for what seemed sure to ensue. It seems that the criminals in government are now talking up imminent threats to the “homeland” from Islamic terrorists now that we have left Afghanistan. Who knows what horrors impend?

    • Replies: @moi
    , @Druid55
    , @Gapeseed
    , @anonymous
  39. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Time is long overdue to quit beating around the bush and call these things for what they really are: war criminality. Reparations are in order but the US would go broke paying for all the damage it’s caused worldwide. Let’s not limit ourselves to just the aggressions of the last twenty years though since the whole list is pretty long. Another aspect is the way the US has conducted it’s wars of aggression which have been reliant in great part by the utilization of atrocity to achieve it’s ends: targeting non-combatant civilian populations with fire-bombing and other loathsome weapons, Agent Orange, depleted uranium, creation of massive refugee flights, stirring up sectarian conflicts, terrorizing entire countries on a giant scale, etc etc. In all this there’s been very many willing and eager executioners, propagandists, profiteers and other followers. Add in the American public in which the majority just don’t care how many Afghans or Libyans die and just follow along with the official spin given them by the media. The security state is turning the screws tighter since they worry the people may get a little restive and discontent What the state has done outwardly may come home and be implemented inwardly. Little criminals hang, big ones are rolling in money and luxury.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  40. Z-man says:

    The one sweet revenge is that ‘W’ has aged rapidly and badly in the last few years so he might meet his maker sooner than later.

  41. @Ray Caruso

    Amen to that. The question is when.

  42. Fred777 says:
    @Anonymous

    “The ship’s crew had finished a 6 month cruise. Their mission was accomplished.“

    That level of goal post moving is just sad.

  43. @Alfred

    Hard to identify leaders of the US, Britain, France, Canada or Australia in the last 2 decades that are free of war crimes.

    • Agree: annamaria
  44. @profnasty

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    Albert Einstein

    You want a leader. What have all of the US’s leaders done in the past to even suggest that we need a new one for the future? Every one of these assholes has been a continuation of the policies put up by the previous installed puppet.

    Think this through. The US is a soft military dictatorship. How else could DOD not account for over \$20 Trillion in funds and no one in congress asks for an explanation. DOD has never passed an audit. The answer is that the DOD, the major corporations, the finance cabal and their hangers on ARE the real gov’t. Only pinheads vote for the actors in this drama.

    • Replies: @profnasty
  45. @anonymous

    A conversation between Alexander the Great and a pirate he captured.
    “How dare you molest the seas?” asks Alexander.
    “How dare you molest the whole world?” the pirate replies.
    “Because I do it with a little ship only, I am called a thief. You, doing it with a great navy, are called an emperor.”
    St. Augustine

  46. @Anon62

    “…The primary reason for the disengagement is to free US military capabilities to focus on China and to undermine China’s continued rise…”

    If that is really the reason for the withdrawal from Afghanistan then the US elite is indeed stupid. They have created a vacuum in Afghanistan and who will step into it? China of course! China will exploit its enormous wealth of minerals (rare earth etc.), China will build its infrastucture, expand its Belt and Road Initiative and with Russia and Iran strengthen its position in Central Asia, thus making its own power even more unassailable. Great geniuses those American politicians!

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Gapeseed
  47. Tom Welsh says:
    @Colin Wright

    The Taliban’s position was responsible, ethical and in line with the requirements of Pashtunwali. They asked that the US government provide convincing proof that bin Laden had committed a crime. The US government ignored their requests and pressed ahead with its illegal war of aggression.

    Governments with less moral and legal responsibility – less backbone, in short – give in to US demands immediately they are made. The UK, for example, makes a practice of delivering up to American “justice” more or less anyone whom Washington asks to be extradited.

    Harsh, cruel and unenlightened as they may be in some ways, the Taliban retain a Biblical honesty and integrity.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Colin Wright
  48. Wokechoke says:

    Retroactive Impeachment for Bush for starting the occupation of Afghanistan? Jail the bastard? Make it so…

    • Agree: annamaria
  49. Wokechoke says:
    @Anon62

    How does losing an airbase on China’s western border allow the US to concentrate on China? Wtf are you on about.

  50. Rich says:
    @Zarathustra

    Isn’t Gore the guy that was chasing masseuses around the room in a towel? Isn’t he the guy who made a billion dollars claiming “global warming” would destroy the world by 2010? Isn’t he the guy that flies private jets around the world to make speeches about the environment? No, Gore wouldn’t have been better, and might have been worse. Ron Paul might have saved the country in 2000, or Pat Buchanan, but not Gore.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  51. Rocha says:
    @Eklan

    Saint John of the Cross said TO IGNORE ALL PERSONAL REVELATIONS both good and bad as they are not necessary for salvation. Some of the reasons he gave: revelations ceased with the Apostles; they are perceived with the senses which are fallible and some are diabolically inspired.
    With regard to Fatima do you mean to say that Our Lady didn’t know that communism was not an error of the Russians but of the jews?
    That the Bolsheviks were neither Russian or Christian. Solzhenitsyn.
    That Our Lady didn’t know that the Bolshevik Revolution was financed by Wall St and American Corporations?
    See Anthony Sutton.
    That Apocalyptic obsessions are a characteristic of American Puritans and they are gnostic because their source is the belief that the material world is evil. Which is a heresy because it denies the DOGMA of the Catholic Faith that God created a good world.
    You mean to tell me that Our Lady promoted the gnostic heresy that the worst sins were sins of the flesh when the first and greatest sin according to the Catholic Church IS PRIDE! The Fatima revelations were very useful in deflecting the blame for genocidal communism from the jews to the Russians. No wonder it is so heavily promoted.
    It pains me that after Vatican II, Catholics give more attention to the hysterical ramblings of adolescent girls than they do to defending the teachings of Christ about salvation. Learn the Faith first so that you stop promoting heresy!

  52. “Given all of that backstory, what Bush and his posse of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Tenet, Feith, Powell and Libby did was indisputably a war crime.”

    Not only dumbass Bush but the entire posse of those war criminals should be hanged and lest you’re thinking that Rumsfeld is already dead so why bother then do think of Oliver Cromwell who’s skelton was exhumed, hanged and quarted and displayed as a warning to other no good wannabes.

  53. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Correct. Shrub had his moment of “victory” 5 minutes after Saddam escaped up to Tikrit. It was a long period after Mission Accomplished that Saddam was pulled out of his spider hole, too. By then of course, we had lost. Bush’s entire crew will live peacefully to their graves in wealth and prosperity. The jews will see to it. The REAL problem is and always, Israel and the corrupt jewish gangsters throughout every single segment in the U.S.. Until that and the corrupt U.S. Political and jewish-driven military and intelligence apparatus is cleared out, expect much, much more destruction. Very much more. Especially as it fails for the final act. The term Scorched Earth comes to mind.

    • Agree: Druid55
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  54. “George W. Bush is not particularly good at apologies so it is not surprising that he did not deliver one regarding the war he unnecessarily started and even more unnecessarily prolonged through the US occupation.”

    For once, I would like to see a US politician take the most honorable way out by committing a harakiri (seppuku) in a public square after he has bowed deeply in shame!

  55. One-off says:

    Prison, hell. These baby-murdering bastards need to be killed ASAP BAMN. Maybe the Afghan “refugees” will do the jobs Americans won’t do (so far).

  56. annamaria says:

    “keep the cash flowing!”
    — This is a battle cry for the zionized US Army of the MIC, by the MIC, and for the MIC; for the US ‘educational’ system that elevates gender studies and considers math a racial construct of white men; the unhealthy healthcare system serving BigPharma; and the zionized and thoroughly corrupt US Congress filled with insider-traders and Israel-firsters.
    At least, patriotic Afghanis have honor. As for the US Congress – none.

  57. annamaria says:
    @Tom Welsh

    The Taliban’s position was responsible, ethical and in line with the requirements of Pashtunwali.”
    — Agree.
    The US Congress’s position was (and is) Talmudic.

  58. annamaria says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “China will build” as compared to “the US bombs”

    Bush-ordered mass slaughter in Afghanistan and Iraq

    Slave markets in Obama-ruined Libya

  59. @HeebHunter

    Jocko Willink is a buffoon.

    He can talk tough about killing Afghanis, but only if he has the overwhelming power of the U.S. military backing him up, and the Taliban are too far away to take revenge against him personally.

    Maybe he should become an independent bounty hunter, and haul G.W. Bush to the International Court. That would be a worthy challenge for a guy who likes to talks tough. Maybe arrest the AIPAC leadership for spying and political interference. Use those retired SEAL Team skills to take on real enemies at home. There’s lots of work to be done.

    Naw, better to go to the fridge and get another beer and continue venting your spleen on video. All talk, no action.

  60. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    What does being the fall guy mean here? No one is ever held accountable in the Swamp anymore. I doubt Blinken is going anywhere… especially given his tribal affiliation…

    They’ll just let it blow over. The US public deserves the government it gets..

  61. Levtraro says:
    @Anon

    Outstanding piece here. But one small issue… you omitted Syria from the list of horrors that that scroungy Obama should be tried for. Oh and Yemen too..

    Don’t forget a classic for any USA prez., the proverbial coup d’état in Latin America. Obama did it to Honduras, he spoke the words of denial but he never ruled that it was a coup so collaboration with the de facto govt continued as if it was the legitimate government even during widespread human rights violations.

  62. Bookish1 says:

    Let’s start with that accountability with WW2. What we did to the Germans was the biggest human caused destruction in the history of the world. And all that stuff that came after the destruction stunk of pure evil.

    • Agree: Rocha
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  63. moi says:
    @mephisto

    Isaac Newton believed in God. That’s good enough for me.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  64. moi says:
    @Sarah

    The two most effed-up countries are the US and Israel–and they deserve each other.

  65. WJ says:
    @Anonymous

    This was alll about Idiot George putting on the flight suit for the photo op. It was all about Iraq.

  66. moi says:
    @Anonymouse

    No such thing as “Islamic terrorists.” But, yes, there are Muslim terrorists–or at least they call themselves Muslim.

  67. Bookish1 says:
    @moi

    So that’s why America began its great decline right after the end of WW2. God was punishing us for the evil that we did to the Germans.

    • Agree: HdC
  68. @mephisto

    “ Didn’t Nietszche teach you to define your own morals”

    Nietzsche: God is dead

    God: Nietzsche is dead.

    “ There is no good or evil, just survival , you moron.”

    If it so then what are you waiting to declare “ The Universal Law of The Jungle”.

    If the Moral Law was guiding the American political class, then the US would be what it has historically aspired to be : the shining city on a hill. Instead it has morphed into the bottomless abyss into hell.

  69. “Word in Washington is that Blinken will be the designated fall guy for the disaster to protect his boss.”

    There is no doubt that the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, which should have happened years ago even if you believe the US invasion was “just” in the first place, is a continuing disaster.

    But will any heads roll? Who was canned for missing 9/11? Did anyone get the ax for the false claims about Saddam’s WMD and allegiance with al-Qaeda? How about the rise of ISIL, that seems to have been missed too. And if you want to go further back, there is the fall of the USSR.

    The USG’s intelligence folks continually miss what’s important but have no trouble getting funding to spy on you and me.

    We ought to save ourselves big bucks and cut the defense and intelligence budgets by 30-50%. We’d be no worse off and the DCI won’t be able to read my emails.

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
    , @aj54
  70. aj54 says:
    @Justrambling

    There used to be a website, long since removed, of all the Israeli-US dual citizens who worked in the government, with an emphasis on the Pentagon and State Dept. As Pogo said “We have seen the enemy and they is us.”

  71. Never mind the Forever Wars, how about even ONE congresscritter with the balls (or eggs) to audit and clean up the fbi, cia, doj, nsa…

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
  72. Maddaugh says:
    @Priss Factor

    I believe you are right. Joe will be shoved aside, probably as planned from the beginning, and the Kamma will go down in History as the first Jamaican, Arab, East Indian, Chinese, West Indian, Afro American Angelina West Coast female married to a Jew to ascend the Presidency.

    History will be made. Oprah, Jay Z, Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, LeBron and the like will weep with joy, at least at the beginning. Meghan will give Harry a monster BJ to celebrate the occasion.

    Vice President ? How about Nancy Pelosi !

    The worst is yet to come because that is how things go when one thinks things cannot get worse. Whites will once again see that Maddaugh is right when he says “Put a Black in Charge and watch them fuck everything up”.

    And UR readers will say “C’mon Maddaugh. Here’s the deal. We kno..kno..kno..knows that Dogg” LOL

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @anon
  73. @mephisto

    You don’t think a serial killer might not be evil? Genocide isn’t evil? How about killing shelter dogs? Evil is a state of mind. Religions recognize the mind of man is evil. So what? Your hatred of religion is blinding you.

  74. @JoaoAlfaiate

    Why? Isn’t Joe’s dementia enough of a reason to be the blame? Or is Harris considered to not ready for prime time, and this administration is stuck with Old Joe?

  75. @Rich

    You are correct. Gore was too much of an environmentalist. I am basing my view on the fact that Clinton (destroyer of Yugoslavia) turned against his own vice president during campaign and that
    did help George to win.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Rich
  76. aj54 says:
    @JoaoAlfaiate

    The most remarkable thing is that anyone has the chutzpah to say we need to rebuild the intelligence agencies. We now have 18 intelligence agencies, not sure if that includes the Orwellian titled Homeland Security. Surely we are not better off that we were decades ago when we ‘only’ had a half dozen. Cutting their numbers by half would not really go far enough. As for the Pentagon, how can any government department consistently ‘lose’ enormous sums year after year with no accountability? If the budget is 800 billion, how can they lose a trillion? Year after year?
    On September 10, 2001, Rumsfeld was on TV to talk about the missing trillions, and had earlier held a meeting with Pentagon accounting to kvetch about how they were much maligned and there would be no consequences. The next day, among the other targets, was a newly remodeled section of the Pentagon that was the new home of the Office of Naval Intelligence, that had been investigating the missing funds. They were on the cusp of some consequences coming to bear after the results were aired. 49 of the 50 ONI investigators died, and all their paperwork and computerized evidence was destroyed. Before the remodeling project they had been scattered throughout the Pentagon, near the offices they were investigating.

    • Replies: @Garliv
  77. JackOH says:

    FWIW-I’ve only scanned Phil’s article and the comments, but there’s some real energy here.

    If I were a high roller, I’d consider funding some sort of well-publicized mock trial of American leaders who fit the bill for war criminals. Do it for public awareness and public education. Try to keep to some lawyerly standards, and try for broad participation. (My candidates for mock prosecution would be President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara.)

    You’d need serious jingle to do it right with a media campaign, surrogate speakers, compensation for participants and their staffs, etc.

    As an offset to the mock prosecutions, offer public recognition to those folks who tried to warn us. (Sticking with the Vietnam era, I’d pick diplomat George Ball and journalist Bernard Fall.)

    Any hectomillionaires out there who can afford to drop a few tens of millions on a project like that?

    BTW-I think Bertrand Russell ran some sort of a mock trial in the 1960s, but I think its message was marred by allegations of anti-Americanism and politicization. Vincent Bugliosi proposed the prosecution of President Bush, and his thinking seems to me on much firmer ground for a mock trial.

    • Replies: @Resartus
  78. aj54 says:
    @JackOH

    “…I desperately don’t want to believe the America I live in is capable of decisions that would make murderous dictators beam”
    You have a lot of company. I think the cognitive dissonance is what prevents a lot of people from waking up, and that prevents the production of a large enough mass of the people to do anything about it. It is late in the game, the NWO Great Reset rolls onward.

    • Replies: @barr
  79. Zumbuddi says:
    @Bookish1

    Agree

    and as far as I know, Germany never invaded US mainland

    although FDR lied and told American people that Germans planned an invasion.

    British propagandists supplied FOR with (fake) proof of the lie.

  80. So what is the final result of Afghanistan affair?
    The result is actually grotesque!
    US did help opponents Russia and China tremendously at his own loss.
    But you with your tiny brains would not be capable to understand that.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    My dream is that US, Russia, and Chin, join forces and create triumvirate for good of the world.
    That would also eliminate Jewish murderous chicanery around the world.

  81. @Alfred

    ‘That is a red herring – as you know very well. Troll!’

    No, I am not a troll. Giraldi’s statement appears to be a factual inaccuracy. Arguments don’t become more convincing when they contain dubious assertions. At a minimum, if such a controversial claim is in fact true, it should be carefully and convincingly documented.

    I happen to both support and contribute to Giraldi. He may find it irritating to have this sort of thing pointed out, but it’s good for him. He’ll become a more effective fighter for the cause. After all, while I’m certainly happy if Giraldi likes me, it’s more important that the good guys win.

  82. @Zarathustra

    Gore’s VP was Joe Lieberman, author of the Patriot Act, which became law of the land anyway.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  83. @Tom Welsh

    ‘The Taliban’s position was responsible, ethical and in line with the requirements of Pashtunwali…’

    This is falling for the ‘moral fable’ version of history.

    Instead of reasoning, ‘US always good, therefore enemies always bad,’ you would argue ‘US always bad, therefore enemies always good.’

    It doesn’t work that way. Sometimes Stalin fights Hitler, and neither one of them becomes good thereby. A given party does things, and sometimes they’re defensible, and sometimes they’re not. The Taliban sheltered a terrorist group. When that terrorist group mounted a horrific attack upon us (and while I believe Israel was complicit in 9/11, yes, al Qaeda really did hijack the planes and fly them into the buildings), and the Taliban refused to turn them over, we were right to invade Afghanistan.

    We shouldn’t have stayed, and I said so at the time, but that’s a different matter. I insist my noisy neighbors shut up. I don’t move in and try to reform their home life.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  84. @Johnny F. Ive

    I think many more Americans should promote what you suggest. Starve the beast of fodder and let it wither away. But I fear the State will counter it by using more automation, AI, and upping the incentives (salaries, perks, etc) as they have the printing press. Still, this will have some effect in the short term.
    In the long term, Americans should put pressure on their leaders to be non-interventionist. With Canada to the north and Mexico to the south, and two huge oceans, Americans shouldn’t worry about enemies for a decade or so.
    Small hats are a different matter.

    • Replies: @Johnny F. Ive
  85. geokat62 says:
    @Colin Wright

    … we were right to invade Afghanistan.

    Invading Afghanistan was a violation of international law.

    Concluding paragraph to, Was the NATO Invasion of Afghanistan Legal?

    In conclusion, it can be argued that the NATO invasion of Afghanistan was not legal under international law. This is due to the fact that the UN resolutions that were drafted after the 9/11 attacks did not expressly permit an aggressive approach in tackling international terrorism. Furthermore, Article 2(3) and Article 2(4) of the UN Charter were not adhered to, as peaceful means to resolve the issue were not sufficiently considered and dialogue between the parties involved was not used as a means to end hostilities. Also, the assertion made by the US that it was acting on the grounds of self-defence under Article 51 of the Charter is deeply contentious. This is because in this case, one state was looking to invade another to eliminate a terrorist organisation that had no affiliation to any particular state. Lastly, the most crucial aspect here that proves that the invasion of Afghanistan was illegal under international law was the fact that the UN Security Council had not given authorisation for the invasion of Afghanistan, which would have been necessary in order for NATO to legally pursue Al Qaeda.

    https://www.e-ir.info/2013/11/06/was-the-nato-invasion-of-afghanistan-legal/

  86. @profnasty

    You need to get these rosy Trump filters off your eyes. Honestly, I don’t know how Trump managed to function for four full years holding his toes, with his rump in the air as ordered by Israel.
    Trump was owned by Israel. If you look at his record dispassionately, you will see it.
    Your country is owned, you are an occupied nation. Open your eyes.

    • Replies: @profnasty
  87. Agent76 says:

    Dec 20, 2016 General Wesley Clark Wars Were Planned

    Seven Countries In Five Years re-uploaded from an Uploaded on Sep 11, 2011 Originally published in March 2007

    Nov 11, 2020 Tulsi Gabbard decries “UNNECESSARY WARS” on Veterans Day

    “The best way to care for our war veterans is to stop creating more.”

  88. Pablo says:

    Sadly, there will be NO accountability. This is a testament to how deeply corrupt the entire US System of Government is. This explains how we have a senile, decrepit old man as US President. (The Deep State has a good laugh over this. No Accountability because these guy have no plan to tap out. EVER. The Deep Staters and their lackeys in the Media will always find an excuse for their failures. They didn’t admit failure in Saigon 1975. They won’t do anything about the Flight of Kabul Airport 2021. The over riding principle that guides the Forces that own and run the US Government are VERY unpatriotic. They actually hate the USA. And BTW: Georgie Boy Bush gave his “Mission Accomplished” speech on an aircraft carrier 40 miles off the coast of that combat hotspot of San Diego California. Bush ordered the carrier to do a 180 because he didn’t want the coast to be seen in the background.

    • Agree: frontier
  89. Notsofast says:
    @profnasty

    trump supporters must hang together……. and that is the d.n.c. platform, they want as many hanged as possible.

    • Replies: @profnasty
  90. @geokat62

    ‘Invading Afghanistan was a violation of international law.’

    Call me cynical, but since when has ‘international law’ been significantly more than a collection of pious sentiments ignored as convenient?

    It all got going about the beginning of the Twentieth Century — and promptly got ignored, and kept being ignored. Whether it was the convention guaranteeing Belgium’s neutrality, or the strictures against bombarding civilians, or the ban on deporting the locals and resettling conquered lands with your own people, everyone just blows it all off and has at it to the extent they find congenial. At best, ‘international law’ works about as well as signs urging you not to litter; maybe it’ll make you decide to comply if it’s not too much trouble.

    So we should have invaded Afghanistan, and did so. I really have no problem with that. All the alternatives would have been worse.

    The problem, as I have said, was staying.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  91. DrWatson says:
    @Anon

    Thanks for the quote. It took me a while to understand the title actually. That explains it.

    Regarding “Mephisto”, if they cannot distinguish between good and evil they must be a psychopath.

  92. Last I heard, Rehabilitated War Criminal Bush was giving painting art lessons to Hunter Biden. Looks like it payed off as both Hunter and Bush are fetching a half mil for their paint by number art.

    Is this a clue in how they run government, using ‘govern by number\$‘ to rule over us?

    And all this time I imagined a more sophisticated method.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  93. @Jim Christian

    The version I read was that Saddam was killed in a missile strike. The mission accomplished masqueraded as a successful invasion, because Saddam was assassinated by the US. The “escape” and the guy in the spider hole were by a double. Recall that Saddam’s wife was adamant the one pulled from the spider hole was not her husband.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  94. @WingsofADove

    Who negotiated NAFTA? Bush I.

    Yes, and no. According to a Canadian labour leader, who had visited the Maquiladora zone in Mexico before the FTA between Canada and the US was signed (Reagan), NAFTA and a North American Union negotiations were already being talked about. In his circles that meant it was a done deal, and some sort of phony show would be put on for “negotiations”. That was in 1988.

    • Replies: @WingsofADove
  95. @Justrambling

    I agree. It would be an upheaval of Biblical proportions throughout the entire world and not just the ME.

    Two sayings come to mind:

    “Truth is stranger than fiction.”

    “Never say never, never say always, and always say sometimes.”

    To Dr. Giraldi, thank you.

  96. A great purge of the entire establishment, current governing infrastructure and foreign policy and funding establishment would be the liberation of the soul this country, and the world that suffers from its actions, needs.

  97. Notsofast says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    art is a fabulous way to launder money, for it’s hard to define and worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it. while in his latest rehab hunter took his favorite coke straw and developed his “blow art” having mastered finger painting during his previous institutionalizations. i’m sure he will work his way up to spin art in his next go round.

  98. anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Cards that are mailed, postage free, every Hannuhkher season:

    “Mission Accomplished”

    5 dancing shlomos

  99. Z-man says:

    Get out of there and keep them out of here!

  100. @Rev. Spooner

    I agree that they’ll counter with AI. If people knowingly sign up to throw their lives away as grifters it is their choice in my opinion. I feel sorry for the troops that believed in America’s propaganda by the grifters that run the show.

    Those who should be our leaders are servants in a bureaucracy that rewards grifting. We have no leaders, only grifters. Oligarchs and corporations paid good money for them, and their media manufactured the consent of Americans. On the local level people know nothing, not even media propaganda because the media doesn’t care. America’s dollar Ponzi scheme won’t go on forever. The fall of the dollar will restrict their ability to export their violence for personal profit. The rest of us should flee if we can. One of my ancestors fled Normandy in the late 18th century after the fall of the monarchy. He made a good decision.

  101. @Curmudgeon

    Thanks, I was not aware of that. Bush the First was, of course the VP and by this point surely exercised direct executive power. My take on that specific Bush is that he was probably the closest to a true deep state power trader being at the same time the spokesperson for the elite deep state the USA ever had Perhaps the one and only…..but he was not on the deepest of the deep level, he was also a tool in a bigger hand.

    • Replies: @Resartus
  102. arami says:

    [Unfortunately, many of those war criminals from the Bush and Obama cliques who are still alive are sitting fat and pretty in retirement or in lucrative private sector positions while the only ones who have been punished are the whistle blowers who tried to stop the madness.]

    Since 1993, The war criminals in Bill Clinton regime relied on violation of the international laws to bomb Yugoslavia to stone age, sanctioned Iraq, Iran and Libya to weaken these countries for final solution. Clinton regime dominated by many neocon jews killed more than 500,000 people in Iraq, many children, to create kurdish enclave to create an ally for Israel. The Jewish mafia still is working at it to erect a second Israel in the region.
    Many zionist jews including the criminal Bernard Henri Levy are still trying to erect ‘kurdistan’ as an Israel ally but the same BHL does not lift a finger for Catalan independence like many criminal Western countries, US, Britain, France, Germany and apartheid entity who want to partition 7 countries in 5 years in the Islamic world. None of the sell out NGO’s who work as informants and propagandists do anything for Catalan independence but they work against their own countries to get a ‘visa’ and a job.

    The criminal west cannot hold much without the assistance of these traitors, because the evil doers need ‘indigenous faces’ as FRONT to sell their policies to gullible people in the west.

    That’s why one of the empire’s job is to construct FAKE leaders as alternative to leaders sitting in these countries by giving them ‘noble peace prize’, example Shirin Ebadi, ‘awards’, ‘titles’ from many mafia think thanks and foundations, example are Payam Akhavan, Shadi Sadr, receiving thousands of dollars, jobs and funding for their propaganda lies constructed in the centers that are erected and funded by the western intelligence services using tax payers money. Also owners of casino and whore houses ‘investors’ in the business of ‘sex trafficking’, ‘drug trafficking’, ‘organ trafficking’ and ‘philanthropists’ are involved in crimes against humanity.

    Most of the propaganda is delivered by these traitors, informants, where majority of them live off your tax money in the west and pose as FAKE ‘human rights activists’ who said nothing about Catalan independence because it is not part of the Western agenda, but partition of the regional countries in the Middle East and Africa is. Most of them not only ignore Israel’s crimes against humanity but they support their crimes and justify it even though are LAWYERS, who work for the empire.

    The Jewish mafia does not work in isolation. Thousand of criminals, terrorists and traitors pose as activists or lawyers of ‘Human rights’ industries funded by western intelligence services, organizations, Foundations, are spreading propaganda to fool the public. People should expose these TRAITORS and shame them because these traitors acts as foot soldiers for the empire to demonize leaders of the targeted countries to fool the public so they can receive thousands of dollars, lucrative grants and good positions. The intelligence services of the west encourage the citizen of the targeted countries to become informants to collect information to pass abroad to obtain a visa. Therefore, so many make FAKE information or exaggerate in order to get their shares.These informants worried to become obsolete, thus do anything to attract attention, even it is very silly.

    The zionist FDD is very focused on Iran and is extremely worried that Biden may improve relations with Iran, which is not true, and advising the PM of Israel, Naphthalen, to use the legal Iran nuclear program, as excuse to keep Iran in the BOX, preventing Iran’s development by demanding MORE and giving LESS to bring Iran under full control keeping the military attack as option. These criminals NEVER learn and should be destroyed before they destroy the planet.

    An Iranian propagandist in the pocket of CIA/Mossad is trying to get your attention.

  103. Anon[278] • Disclaimer says:

    So… the idiot quasi-Jew Nikki Haley [Hell-y?] just said on Fox News… regarding leaving Afghanistan…

    How are we going to promise the American People there will be no more 9/11’s.

    Well, we cannot, unless we expose the Jews and Israelis and Neo-Cons [redundancy, ya think?] that perpetrated the first one.

    The next time the Jews will float a nuclear device into a USA harbor. After all the Jews have been warned to go on vacation, of course.

    Start with Lucky Larry Silverstein, and walk it all the way across JINSA, PNAC, etc.

    Spare none of them for the crime of the century.

  104. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Contrary to popular opinion, the Mission Accomplished extravaganza was no screw-up. Instead it was a message to the world that Israel’s orders to destroy Iraq had been carried oiut.

    Again, contrary to popular opinion, there was never any other purpose behind the war, the same being true for Libya and other destroyed nations.

    • Agree: acementhead, Robjil
  105. Druid55 says:
    @Sarah

    The USA is like the British empire, French empire, Roman Empire, mongols, etc. They are extraction empires, invading and plundering wealth, in different manner.

    • Agree: Sarah
  106. Notsofast says:
    @Robjil

    good and evil are very nebulous words and the egyptians tended to see them more in terms of order and chaos, ma’at and isfet. ma’at being truth, justice, order and light and isfet, lies, deceit, criminality and darkness. when viewed in this light the neocons are pure isfet, they are the mesu betesh sowing the seeds of isfet around the world. as we find ourselves in this time of darkness we must remember the cyclical nature of the cosmos and that the sun shall rise again, ushering in a new day and age of ma’at for ma’at and ra rise mutually from the sea of chaos.

    • Thanks: Robjil
  107. Druid55 says:
    @Anonymouse

    I remember those times. I was against the war and locally vocal. That’s the first time in my life in the USA (since 1973) that I realised what we used to say in S Africa, “the walls have ears”. It became a stasi country. People were being visited for being against the war and not believing the 911 bs. Just like the six gazillion!

  108. Rich says:
    @Zarathustra

    Clinton was a bit unpopular by 2000 after Lewinski and the impeachment and a few other incidents. Gore didn’t want him to appear with him during the campaign. The fact that he picked Lieberman as his vp shows Gore was as much a neocon as anyone. Lieberman was a neocon chickenhawk who was helped into office by Bill Buckley who had a problem with liberal repub Lowell Weicker.

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  109. @geokat62

    I agree there are those laws. However, what I see is the Imperial power that wins (or never loses) wars has the choice of which laws will apply. The US currently has this priviledge and it uses it. Only lesser countries have to follow the laws except those countries that are under the special protection of the Empire.

  110. geokat62 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Call me cynical…

    Hey, cynical, lol.

    So we should have invaded Afghanistan…

    The problem, as I have said, was staying.

    What, in your mind, did the invasion of Afghanistan accomplish?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  111. @geokat62

    ‘What, in your mind, did the invasion of Afghanistan accomplish?’

    It made it clear that openly sheltering terrorists who had just attacked the United States would have unpleasant consequences.

    Now, if you want to argue we should have attacked Israel as well, you won’t find me arguing with you.

    • Replies: @Druid55
    , @geokat62
    , @Sparkon
  112. Druid55 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Jesus, there is no cure for foolishness!

    • Thanks: L.K
  113. Garliv says:
    @aj54

    They were on the cusp of some consequences coming to bear after the results were aired. 49 of the 50 ONI investigators died, and all their paperwork and computerized evidence was destroyed. Before the remodeling project they had been scattered throughout the Pentagon, near the offices they were investigating.

    Any source/link for this? Especially about “49 of the 50 ONI investigators died…. ”

    • Replies: @aj54
  114. geokat62 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Now, if you want to argue we should have attacked Israel as well, you won’t find me arguing with you.

    That’s not what I want to argue. What I want to argue is if America didn’t have the Zionist albatross around its neck, there would be no 9/11 and no need for an invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq, for that matter.

    • Agree: Z-man
  115. frontier says:

    Giraldi did a better job at writing about the Afghan debacle than all other authors here but it’s unimpressive nevertheless. His commendable attempt to call for political responsibility ended up with this rather weak and wimpy “hope for change”:

    Hopefully the time they spend in prison somewhere down the road will not discourage them and they will emerge with their brilliant insights fully intact. With leaders like Bush, Milley, Blinken and Warner, what could possibly go wrong?

    I don’t know why should Obama and Trump get a pass, but more importantly, the problem isn’t individuals and it cannot be fixed by prison any more than Epstein’s imprisonment fixed child trafficking and forced prostitution. We are dealing with widespread institutional corruption, neither party will be changed by punishing individual members – they will be replaced by more of the same. That’s the real problem nobody is writing about, everything else is empty rhetoric.

  116. Stan says:
    @Anon

    Educating the ignorant is a thankless task.

  117. @Curmudgeon

    The version you read was from HorseshitInc.com. Many news orgs interviewed Saddam in his prison cell in the months before the Shia hanged him by the neck until he perished. Two of them wrote books on the subject. That was Saddam. Now, if you want to discuss the fraud of the Seals’ capture/killing of Osama Bin Laden, we can talk. Saddam skidaddled off to Takrit, everyone but the U.S. knew it and finally, someone ratted him out for the reward. They probably run a liquor store as a reward, near YOU!

    Abdul, the liquor store owner. Imagine that. Soon, it”ll be Abdul the rape groomer from Kandahar-har-har. And no liberal will whisper a word when little American girls are raped, or boys either, no paper will report their raping, deforming, murderous deeds. Afghanis are 5-10 points lower IQ than American blaxx, you know. THIS is why present-day American feminists are SHITTY CUNTS, my new term for feminists. They see an actual rape culture landing on these shores, and like with the new flow into society of Tranny men, feminists refuse to stand up for themselves. Cunts.

    Where is N.O.W.? Hiding in their DC headquarters, collecting their pay from the donations of the sisterhood, that’s where. Did I mention they’re cunts? If I forgot, let me say, feminists are cunts. Liberal, jew-paid cunts.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  118. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Maddaugh

    it depends on which Black?
    Kamala is a certain fuck up, determined by the chosen!

    by the way I like Biden getting out of Afghanistan.
    Biden killed the Haitian president! that’s not good at all but he has gotten out of Afghanistan

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  119. DanFromCT says:

    It was apparent during the Republican debates that the neocon fix was in when candidate GWB was unable to finish sentences and slurring his words, even back then. This piece of criminal filth from Yale peed his brains out from booze, drugs, and mental indolence years before he got to the White House. He has the psychopathological manifestation, in the same alarming manner as Bill Gates does, of sniggering to himself under his breath when he’s discussing mass death and human suffering. I’ll always remember the Jews’ spittoon from Texas for his justification of genocide by claiming that the terrace (sometimes also rhyming with licorice) hate us for our freedoms.

  120. @mephisto

    “The Evil…?”
    I stopped reading there.

    I stopped reading there.

    Anyone who has not sufficient brain-power, mental focus or basic intellectual rigour to follow a straightforward logical argument in a short essay, simply because he is immediately blinded by his own adolescent and pathetic anti-religious prejudice, has no claim on a moment of my attention or my time.

    Please leave. You are lowering the average IQ of this forum.

  121. @geokat62

    ‘That’s not what I want to argue. What I want to argue is if America didn’t have the Zionist albatross around its neck, there would be no 9/11 and no need for an invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq, for that matter.’

    Quite likely. You’re talking to a guy who, at the time, insisted Osama bin Laden was at least partially motivated by our role in Israel’s crimes. It wasn’t a popular position either; those were the days of ‘they hate us for our freedom’ and such bullshit.

    However, no use crying over spilt milk. At the end of the day, Afghanistan’s behavior with regards to al Qaeda and 9/11 couldn’t be allowed to pass without response.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  122. @anon

    ‘…by the way I like Biden getting out of Afghanistan.’

    Yes — and ‘he’ (Biden doesn’t decide anything) spectacularly screwed up the exit, completely discrediting his administration in the process.

    Definitely a win-win. We’re out of Afghanistan, and we may be rid of the Biden administration sooner than we could have hoped.

  123. annamaria says:
    @Sarah

    The “Ledeen Doctrine:”

    Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.

    Ledeen has an obvious mental disorder exaggerated by his Jewish upbringing.

    As it is in Ukraine, zionists are always eager to collaborate with neonazis: “Michael Ledeen is a neoconservative Zionist and a former employee of the Pentagon, the State Department and the National Security Council.” https://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2007/08/michael-ledeen-gladio-and-9-11.html
    Peter Chamberlin:

    Ledeen is linked to:
    1. The fascist false-flag terrorism in Italy associated with Operation Gladio and the Strategy of Tension.
    2. The Niger yellow cake forged documents.
    3. The Iran/contra affair.
    4. The events of 9 11.

    Ledeen’s links to Italian fascism extended to his association with the ‘strategy of tension’ and the creative use of terrorism and false flag-type operations (Operation Gladio) to use fear to manipulate public opinion, in order to achieve their fascist dominated world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen
    “Ledeen was a founding member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs and he served on the JINSA Board of Advisors.” http://www.hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/FromOthers/list-of-neocons-for-Iraq-war.htm

    • Thanks: Orville H. Larson
  124. profnasty says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    My intention in the comment was to Dump Trump and find a stronger, more honest leader. I’m perfectly comfortable with his followers.
    Third party.

  125. profnasty says:
    @Notsofast

    Only time will tell.
    But I don’t like what I see.
    We need an Action Hero.
    All we have- a sky full of holes.

  126. Richard B says:
    @Ray Caruso

    Sure, right after we cut off aid to Israel.

    Exactly! \$10 million per day in military aid alone.

    From the article:

    If you want to know how the United States wound up with “government by stupid” one need only look no farther than…..

    Theodor Herzl and a bunch of f**kin’ Russian Rabbis 100+ years ago.

    https://www.unz.com/book/douglas_reed__the-controversy-of-zion/

    Everything since then has been all about satisfying their lust for power. They were good at hiding and we weren’t good at looking. Now that that’s changing, for some, they’re pulling all the stops.

    “How perverse we have become…..”

    become? More like been, for a long time. But, point well taken. And perverse is the right word for anyone taken in by any of this. Bush? Biden? Whatever. Call puppet-blaming.

    That’s exactly what the rabbis want. So, let’s not give it to them.

    • Thanks: Z-man
  127. Sparkon says:
    @Colin Wright

    It made it clear that openly sheltering terrorists who had just attacked the United States would have unpleasant consequences.

    Show your proof that anyone in Afghanistan or the Taliban did any such thing.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  128. @SolontoCroesus

    There is inconsistency. Biden and Trump have chosen VP only after winning the election.
    Gore have chosen Lieberman VP and he did not win the election.

  129. anon[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Dont distort:

    “Two weeks after 9/11, Secretary of State Colin Powell said that he expected “in the near future . . . to put out . . . a document that will describe quite clearly the evidence that we have linking [bin Laden] to this attack.”19 But at a joint press conference with President Bush the next morning, Powell withdrew this pledge, saying that “most of [the evidence] is classified.” Seymour Hersh, citing officials from both the CIA and the Department of Justice, said the real reason why Powell withdrew the pledge was a “lack of solid information.” B. The British Government The following week, British Prime Minister Tony Blair issued a document to show that “Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, the terrorist network which he heads, planned and carried out the atrocities on 11 September 2001.” Blair’s report, however, began by saying: “This document does not purport to provide a prosecutable case against Osama Bin Laden in a court of law.” So, the case was good enough to go to war, but not good enough to take to court. The next day, the BBC emphasized this weakness, saying: “There is no direct evidence in the public domain linking Osama Bin Laden to the 11 September attacks.”

  130. anon[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    In late September and early October 2001, leaders of Pakistan’s two Islamist parties negotiated Bin Laden’s extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for 9/11. However, a US official said, significantly, that “casting our objectives too narrowly” risked “a premature collapse of the international effort if by some lucky chance Mr Bin Laden was captured”. The US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Myers, went so far as to say that “the goal has never been to get Bin Laden” (AP, April 5 2002). The whistleblowing FBI agent Robert Wright told ABC News (December 19 2002) that FBI headquarters wanted no arrests. And in November 2001 the US airforce complained it had had al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in its sights as many as 10 times over the previous six weeks, but had been unable to attack because they did not receive permission quickly enough (Time Magazine, May 13 2002). None of this assembled evidence, all of which comes from sources already in the public domain, is compatible with the idea of a real, determined war on terrorism.— https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/sep/06/september11.iraq


Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, CNN reported: “The Taliban . . . refus[ed] to hand over bin Laden without proof or evidence ..The Taliban ambassador to Pakistan . . . said Friday that deporting him without proof would amount to an ‘insult to Islam.’” CNN also made clear that the Taliban’s demand for proof was not made without reason, saying: “Bin Laden himself has already denied he had anything to do with the attacks, and Taliban officials repeatedly said he could not have been involved in the attacks.” Bush, however, “said the demands were not open to negotiation or discussion.”

  131. @Colin Wright

    And then there was the Sheberghan Massacre of Taliban who had surrendered to US stooge, Dostum, a trade-mark US atrocity, supervised by US Special Forces’.

  132. @Sparkon

    If that was true, they would have bombed Tel Aviv and Herzliya, with AIPAC HQ thrown in.

  133. Barr says:

    1-“We are probably in the process of experiencing the end of Western hegemony over the world. We were used to an international order that had been based on Western hegemony since the 18th century – probably French hegemony in the 18th century, inspired by the Enlightenment; probably British hegemony in the 19th century thanks to the Industrial Revolution, and American hegemony in the 20th century thanks to two major conflicts and the economic and political domination of that power. Things change. And they have been deeply affected by the mistakes made by Westerners in certain crises, by American decisions over the last several years”

    https://lv.ambafrance.org/Ambassadors-conference-Speech-by-M-Emmanuel-Macron-President-of-the-Republic

    2-He told me his view of the U.S.:”The role of the United States as a policeman of the world, it’s over”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/04/conversation-outgoing-french-ambassador-gerard-araud/587458/

    3- “Some commentators are legitimately asking if the Taliban victory marks the beginning of the end of the western empire”

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/afghanistan-us-central-asia-great-game-lost

    There are Unknown unknowns – May be dead we don’t know . May be alive looking for places to bomb .

    Now 2 ambassadors 1 president confirming —. Mission Accomplished

  134. @geokat62

    Zionazism is not an albatross, that ‘pious bird of ill omen’. It is a cuckoo in the nest, pushing all the other chicks out of the nest.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    , @Colin Wright
  135. Gapeseed says:
    @Anonymouse

    I was one of the 90%, but in my defense, the war in Afghanistan was sold to me as an action to get the 9/11 mastermind with a light and mobile force, and then, get out. Now, twenty years later, I realize my multiple layers of foolishness and am ashamed.

  136. Gapeseed says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    The thought came to me (perhaps original) that our abandonment of billions of dollars of weapons is a feature and not a bug. Now, the Taliban will be well armed when China takes our place in the tar pit.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  137. One way for Sweden to pay for its humanitarianism toward refugees.

    • Agree: annamaria
  138. RobinG says:

    ,,,America’s long-standing partners wondering what will become of the values-based, US-led international order.

    LOLOLOL.

    Afghan withdrawal leaves allies to face harsh reality of US’s departure from world stage
    (If only!)
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/afghan-withdrawal-leaves-allies-to-face-harsh-reality-of-us-s-departure-from-world-stage/ar-AANHYsN?ocid=msedgntp

  139. anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymouse

    imminent threats to the “homeland” from Islamic terrorists

    No such thing as “Islamic terrorists.” Anybody who seeks revenge against the whitevil race are saints and martyrs.

  140. anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Eklan

    Only this prayer will bring lasting peace:

    Only this…! Lol! Such conviction for a pagan vermin whose Chrizzie ilk is most responsible for the wanton death and destruction we witness?! *smh*

    Ultimately, what you quote is simply a pagan polytheist mangods-worshipping abomination. This voodoo father/son incantation should be quite similar to, and will do as much “good” as the moronic hindoos invoking Shiva/Ganesh or the nordics invoking Odin/Thor. You think invoking Shiva/Ganesh/Odin/Thor will have any effect? If not, how is your father/son mangods duo any better?

    Pagan vermin all of you.

  141. geokat62 says:
    @Colin Wright

    At the end of the day, Afghanistan’s behavior with regards to al Qaeda and 9/11 couldn’t be allowed to pass without response.

    Why is the cause (Jewish Supremacist malfeasance) allowed to pass without a response, but the effect (a ragtag scapegoat) isn’t?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  142. The failed U.S monetary/fiscal policies and disastrous foreign policy in the aftermath of the 9/11 False Flag, explained in a few words by the great Bill Bonner:

    (Fake) boom … bust … re-boom … Ka-boom … Kabul !!

  143. @mulga mumblebrain

    Thank you for all your valuable insights, crazypants.

  144. Washington is just a big fact-free political show where the blame game winners are the best manipulators.”

    And you think this is new ?

    In Britain there was once a Finance Minister who 1925-29 cut Defence Spending in a major way to reduce income tax – he decided on a “10 Year Rule”. – no war for 10 years on a rolling basis ! and no war with Japan.

    So the huge new naval base at Singapore was not completed; cuts in shipbuilding and naval strength were imposed. When Neville Chamberlain became Finance Minister 1935 he REVERSED Churchill’s cuts and funded Radar, Spitfire aircraft, 4-engined bombers, shadow factories, Rolls-Royce factory at Crewe and Barnoldswick. and prepared for war

    Yet Churchill who replaced him as Prime Minister in 1940 and watched Singapore fall to Japan in 1942 after he lost the newest battleships in Force Z on 10 Dec 1941 to Japanese air attack……….well Churchill got to re-write History with himself as Hero and Chamberlain as Defeatist………it helped Chamberlain died of cancer in Nov 1940

    So it has happened before………and schools teach the propaganda that makes people feel good

    • Replies: @Anon
  145. anonymous[136] • Disclaimer says:

    This does a good job expressing the disgust and revulsion that any thinking American must feel toward the criminal enterprise that’s got its hooks in us. The USA has no reason to exist. Traditional criticism of individual policies just perpetuates a state that’s rotten to the core.

  146. Anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    When Neville Chamberlain became Finance Minister 1935 he REVERSED Churchill’s cuts and funded Radar, Spitfire aircraft, 4-engined bombers, shadow factories, Rolls-Royce factory at Crewe and Barnoldswick. and prepared for war

    It’s worth noting that 4 engined heavy bombers were designed to level cities filled with civilians rather than to be used against military formations. Britain had the Stirling, the Halifax and the Lancaster while Germany had… none. Hmmmm.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @annamaria
  147. BL says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    The irony everyone is missing is that the root of our problems began in victory not defeat. Indeed, what has followed the period of 1989-91 is such a Sad Story ruling and governing classes would rather the American Project die than admit they f**ked up a world-historical lunch.

    If you think about it, uneqivical defeat makes accountability easy as pie in that the losers are accountability takers not makers.

    As the last three decades have demonstrated, and increasingly obviously so, non-existential failures compound to the point that most national energy and resources are expended in covering up and otherwise rationalizing the supreme dysfunction.

    I can’t remember the last time anyone besides me located the root in the end of the Cold War and collapse of Soviet Communism. If there is any counterfactual begging for sober consideration it’s the US expansion of NATO and blowout of Russia internally.

    The US drove Russia into a Strategic Alliance with China so comprehensive they’ve stopped calling it that so that Americans who are paid to think about such things don’t feel bad about themselves. When we can’t get right that which we used to teach to middle schoolers about US Geopolitical imperatives then there is no hope on the subsidiary stuff.

    I don’t think it’s coincidental that the whole GWOT shebang kicked off by 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan followed less than two years after we lost Russia, when our man Yeltsin was replaced by Putin.

    However you assess the long tail of blame, we now have an American “Yeltsin” installed in The White House. It’s impossible to overstate how dangerous this is for not just the American Project but for the entire globe.

    Just accept that whatever else was going on that captured the attention the ruling and governing classes in the US have been at war against our Constitutional Republic. We need to acknowledge how successful they have been. From the Bush era “the Constitution isn’t a suicde pact,” to Obama loudly and proudly declaring that it [The Constitution and the Bill of Rights] “just a piece of parchment.”

    Be wary (to say the least!) of the instantaneous “Everyone agrees!” in the form of “This is a Saigon Moment.” Not just in Washington, but with full messaging assistance from Afghanistan and our allies and rivals alike. If you think about it, we’re in the middle of a brilliant, well-planned set-piece to neutralize any prospect of accountability let alone a reckoning.

    Mark my words, soon enough they’ll move onto the fantasyland of reminding everyone of the good imperial stuff that followed our humiliating loss in Vietnam under the rubric, I guess, of what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.

  148. @Ray Caruso

    It’s not aid, it’s tribute.

  149. Apparently this guy, who I usually like on anti-Israel stuff, refers to the “Trump-Russia collusion” as a “hoax”. He doesn’t know Trump’s been an ‘asset’ for the Russians for years, he had them fudge the IP addresses on the polls in 2016, or that Trump is the one who made the deal with the Taliban in 2020? He even wanted to invite them to the presidential ranch.

    Only writing about SOME truth is more dangerous than NO truth….

  150. It some time to digest this article.

    Aside from whites in their place . . . which has little bearing on the events in question.

    Maybe a few other quibbles

    appreciated it

  151. Religion is an attempt by wise and intelligent men to explain to sheep that both the good and evil they do will live on after them. The results are perverted institutions run by stupid and ignorant sheep. You can tell because the fairy tales they believe are so childlike.

    If you read the source docs for the religions, they don’t say what people think they say.

  152. PJ London says:
    @Colin Wright

    “The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the ‘devil’ only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the U.S.” —
    Robin Cook, former British Foreign Secretary (Died of ‘heart attack’ whilst running on his own.)

  153. RobinG says:

    Noteworthy that WaPo published this op-ed by Suzanne Enzerink, a scholar at the American University of Beirut. Could this breath of air in MSM portend a changing wind?

    From Mosaddegh to Chamoun, we’re reminded that Ike was cut from the same blood-stained cloth as our other exceptional leaders.

    Afghanistan’s collapse exposes the truth about U.S. military invasions in the region

    These [Middle East] campaigns did not begin with Afghanistan, Iraq or Kuwait. Instead, the era launched on July 14, 1958, when 2,000 U.S. Marines landed in coastal Lebanon. Authorized by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, Operation Blue Bat brought 14,000 U.S. forces to Lebanon to support pro-Western President Camille Chamoun amid civil unrest that imperiled his reelection (a reelection unconstitutional under Lebanese law). While the CIA had long interfered in regional politics and the United States held several air bases in the Middle East, the invasion marked the first time that U.S. forces were openly deployed for combat there. As historian Bruce Riedel suggests, this mission set out a pattern for interventionism that the United States would repeat again and again in the decades to come.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/opinions-afghanistan-s-collapse-exposes-the-truth-about-u-s-military-invasions-in-the-region/ar-AANJ55P?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

  154. @geokat62

    ‘Why is the cause (Jewish Supremacist malfeasance) allowed to pass without a response, but the effect (a ragtag scapegoat) isn’t?’

    Gute Frage. However, you’re still not offering a reason why we shouldn’t have invaded Afghanistan.

    I agree with you completely that we should do something about Israel. In point of fact, I do what I can. However, the fact remains that given Afghanistan’s actions after 9/11, invading Afghanistan was a necessary response. Our failure to address the problem that is Israel didn’t create a reason to do nothing about Afghanistan.

    • Replies: @L.K
  155. @mulga mumblebrain

    ‘Zionazism is not an albatross, that ‘pious bird of ill omen’. It is a cuckoo in the nest, pushing all the other chicks out of the nest.’

    Well, it’s somewhat worse than that.

    If Israel were merely a ‘cuckoo,’ fattening itself and sucking up all our resources, but rational, that would be bad enough.

    However, Israel is more of a disturbed child. It compulsively seeks war with those around it, and when one is destroyed or forced into submission, simply seeks another foe. At the moment, it would have us go to war with Iran.

    Why? Because Iran is the closest state that still defies it. If we did somehow destroy the Iranian state on Israel’s behalf, Israel would simply seek a war with somebody else. Turkey?

    Did you realize Israel is the only state in modern times that has attacked every single one of it’s neighbors? Even Hitler’s Germany and Stalin’s Russia couldn’t quite match that record. Hitler missed Switzerland, and Russia missed Turkey, China, and Afghanistan.

  156. @Gapeseed

    The Taliban wouldn’t know what to do with any of the more sophisticated weapons so they will sell them to the Chinese and Russians to be reverse engineered. Even a goat herder understands the profit motive.

    • Replies: @Gapeseed
  157. L.K says:
    @Colin Wright

    First of all, YOU ARE A TROLL, and have been so marked up by RON UNZ himself under one of his articles.

    You have been asked, you sad little liar, to produce the actual evidence that demonstrates Bin Laden and his people in Afghanistan were behind the 9-11 terror attacks.

    The Taliban asked the US for evidence, since Bin Laden DENIED he had had anything to do with it.

    Your criminal government HAS NEVER showed ANY evidence, because there is NONE.
    So, obviously, a pathetic Troll such as yourself can do no better than to keep parroting old lies…

    There is evidence that the US was already set to invade Afghanistan BEFORE 9-11, with 9-11 serving as the pretext… what is new!?

    One would like to know what Mr.Might Makes Right thinks of his country, under 2 administrations, being involved with the creation of the proto-Taliban and proto-Al Qaeda during the 1980s?

    More recently the US, NATO and the US local Mid East Allies, strategically deployed bulked up Al Qaeda franchises to destroy Libya and Syria.
    ISIS was also helped along by the US/NATO to put pressure on Assad and to create a need for US interference, yet again, in Iraq.
    Some heavily redacted US INTEL documents confirm this, as did General Flynn, former commander of the DIA.

    • Replies: @arami
  158. Resartus says:
    @Sarah

    Do you seriously believe that Iran or North-Korea can declare war on the US? This is ridiculous.

    Why not, Panama did…..
    Though more likely a Plan to get the US military in to remove Noriega for them….

  159. arami says:
    @L.K

    [First of all, YOU ARE A TROLL, and have been so marked up by RON UNZ himself under one of his articles.]

    I remember UNZ did that. Thank you very much.

    He is trying to sell the lies of the USG that ‘ben Ladin’ was behind this terror, spreading the lies of USG.
    It was US and Israel who designed and carried out 9/11 terror and killed 3000 of American citizens. Then attacked Iraq based on lies, followed by Libya and then Syria. People of the world laugh at the war criminals in Washington and Tel Aviv when they say ‘Assad kills his own people’. No, Assad didn’t do that. Your terrorists killed people in Syria. In fact US kills its own people to bring dummies on board. Apparently USG was able to fool these trolls or trolls are paid to spread these lies.

    People should ignore these trolls.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8_zx1kVcAEmeQl?format=jpg

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  160. “The Taliban asked the US for evidence, since Bin Laden DENIED he had had anything to do with it.”

    No. O think the record reflects that not only did Mr. Osama Ben Laden admit it. He was surprised they pulled it off.

  161. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    The demonization of Germany has lost its meaning after the US slaughterous “humanitarian interventions” around the globe.

    For those still fond of holobiz museums, there are important Jewish names to consider: Lazar Kaganovich, an organizer of Holodomor in Ukraine (6-8 million died).
    Phillip Goloshyokin (born Shaya Itsikovich), the principal organizer of the Goloshyokin Genocide in Kazakhstan (almost 40% of all Kazakhs perished).
    Naftali Frenkel, the principal organizer of the Soviet concentration camps system sGULAG) and inventor of murderous policy that resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of prisoners.
    Rozalia Zalkind (Zemlychka) was in charge of organizing a mass slaughter of the Russian officer corps in Crimea: https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/
    Heinrich Yagoda (born Yenokh Iyeguda) was a director of the NKVD, the Soviet Union’s security and intelligence agency during the Red Terror (in the 1930-s).
    The list of influential Jewish Bolsheviks is long.

  162. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    The regime change in Ukraine in 2014 was accomplished by the joint effort of zionists (see the warmongering Kagans clan) and neonazis such as the self-proclaimed neonazi Andriy Parubiy (founder of the neo-Nazi Social-National Party of Ukraine), who became speaker of the parliament, and Arsen Avakov (a fervent supporter of the neonazi Azaov Battalion), who became minister of the interior. Avakov ” met with the Israeli interior minister Aryeh Deri to discuss “fruitful cooperation:”
    https://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-arming-neo-nazis-ukraine/24876

    The Jewish State even supplied the self-proclaimed neonazis with Israel-made rifles.

    Guess all Jewish / Clintons’ squealings about “Hitler” should be put to rest.

  163. Resartus says:
    @JackOH

    If I were a high roller, I’d consider funding some sort of well-publicized mock trial of American leaders who fit the bill for war criminals.

    Someone/some group filed a charge against “W” about 15 years ago or so….
    Also, an activist group did a mock trial….

    • Thanks: JackOH
    • Replies: @JackOH
  164. Resartus says:
    @geokat62

    Invading Afghanistan was a violation of international law.

    Then the Taliban leadership should be rounded up and placed against a wall….
    Considering they are Pakistani and basically operatives of the Pakistani Intelligence Agency….

  165. Resartus says:
    @WingsofADove

    Bush the First was, of course the VP and by this point surely exercised direct executive power.

    Don’t forget Bush I, was also head of the CIA….

    • Replies: @barr
  166. aandrews says:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IGU_7alJ80

    And THAT is why George W. Bush ignored the Taliban’s surrender offer in 2001.

  167. JackOH says:
    @Resartus

    Resartus, you are right, sir, thanks.

    I did a quick search after reading your reply. A mock trial, and, what’s more, a stage play of a trial of President George W. Bush tepidly reviewed in 2016 in DC Theater Scene.

    My first startled and completely unfiltered thought?

    Chrissake–we here commenting on UR, sometimes angrily, are the mainstream. It’s the rest of America that’s radical, extremist, immoderate.

    I have no explanation for why that was my snap reaction.

    • Replies: @Resartus
  168. @arami

    ‘I remember UNZ did that. Thank you very much….’

    This gets tedious. Any view except the most extreme imaginable becomes inadmissable.

    It’s really kind of sad, when you think about it.

  169. barr says:
    @aj54

    500 Days: Secrets and Lies in the Terror Wars Kindle Edition
    by Kurt Eichenwald

    This book chronicles the warnings leading up to the event-911 . FBI even considered resigning en masse to bring to the attention but was overruled because of the fear that the arising vacuum might prove more deadly .

  170. barr says:
    @Resartus

    Yes.But We are taught and told that Putin was a KGB agent each time one needs to express condescending hatred of him in the media without saying so

  171. Gapeseed says:
    @RoatanBill

    The Taliban wouldn’t know what to do with any of the more sophisticated weapons so they will sell them to the Chinese and Russians to be reverse engineered. Even a goat herder understands the profit motive

    .

    Our apparent gross negligence in leaving all of this equipment behind might also be a sign that we are no longer confident that our weapons are cutting edge or that they haven’t already been compromised.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  172. @Gapeseed

    What I don’t understand is why the equipment was left in working order. You would think that the military might have access to explosives to destroy anything they couldn’t or didn’t want to cart off.

    To me this is deliberate. The US military is accustomed to getting huge amounts of funds for their toys and possibly their entitlement mentality figured there’s more where that came from and they just couldn’t be bothered to throw a grenade into a chopper or even a gallon of fuel and a match. I remember video of helicopters being thrown overboard when the US quit Vietnam.

    This strengthens my theory that the US military is the US’s soft dictatorship command and control that is accountable to no one. Who else would so cavalierly walk away from supposed sophisticated weapons systems without even denying them to their enemy?

    • Replies: @Anon117
    , @Randy Dazzler
  173. Anon117 says:
    @RoatanBill

    You ascribe too much competence to the Pentagon. They simply cut and ran. They left everything behind out of sheer Sad Sack laziness.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  174. @Anon117

    If one assumes that grunts still carry out orders, then one utterance from some medal festooned asshole in charge for the grunts to torch all the weapons platforms isn’t that much of an exertion even for the lazy slobs in the military hierarchy.

    All it would have taken was for one general, one lieutenant to give the order and a few billion worth of weapons systems would have been toast in a few minutes.

    These weapons were left behind for a reason. They are there to be fought over during a civil war in a last ditch attempt to hinder the Taliban.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Resartus
  175. Goyboy says:
    @Colin Wright

    You do realize, do you not, the Taliban and OBL had nothing to do with 9/11?

  176. Realist says:
    @RoatanBill

    These weapons were left behind for a reason.

    That reason is…the U. S. does not have those weapons and they will need to be replaced…thereby making the Deep State richer. It’s as if they were destroyed.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @Anon
  177. Resartus says:
    @JackOH

    I have no explanation for why that was my snap reaction.

    Reality Bites” and we all have a tendency to snap back at it….

    Again, even if we saw/knew something 10/15 years ago, it mostly gets pigeonholed in our memory…
    Being an analyst for 15 years, I remember a lot of things that happened, now recalling whether it happened in 1986 or 1991 can be an issue….

  178. Resartus says:
    @RoatanBill

    These weapons were left behind for a reason.

    Because they were in the possession of the Afghan Military….
    In most cases the cost to retrieve them (return to state/europe) is higher than
    the cost of replacing them…..

    Then again, there hasn’t been a huge number of US Forces in the field in Afghanistan for years….
    A few armed drones destroying stuff, wouldn’t have just deprived it to the Taliban, but given them (maybe) a pause to take over the country…..

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  179. J-watch says:

    Hey Phil if my memory serve me correctly Bush’s “mission accomplished” was regarding the major military operations in Iraq as the lying JEW neo-cons “shock and awe” campaign was suppose to be 7 days to defeat Iraq! Of course it was just a BIG JEW LIE supported by the lying Jew media. The Jew Perle later tried to say war with Iran would only take 4 days!! Time to take all of the lying Jew neo-cons and their sycophant puppets and lock them up for life without the possibility of parole.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  180. @J-watch

    Thanks J – you are correct. At the time the stunt was pulled the active theater of war had shifted to Iraq. That the “mission” was accomplished and the fighting was over was, of course, a lie concocted by his gang of neocons and media enablers!

  181. @Jim Christian

    Actually I first read about it here: https://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2006/12/saddam-husseins-wife-and-his-teeth.html complete with photos. Either way, he’s dead. As for Abdul, the liquor store owner, he’s more likely to be running drugs through a taxi he bought.

  182. Athena says:

    We chastise President Biden for a messy ending of the war in Afghanistan and fail to indict George Bush for its illegal beginning.

    The Afghanistan Debacle, Zalmay Khalilzad and The Great Reset
    By F. William Engdahl
    http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO19August2021.php

    EXCERPTS

    ”The fall of Afghanistan was not the result of an “intelligence failure” by the CIA or a military mis-calculation by Secretary Austin and the Pentagon. Both knew, as did Khalilzad, what they were doing.”

    ”The real gainer in this insanity is the globalist agenda of so-called Davos “Great Reset” cabal who are using it to destroy the global influence of the United States, as Biden domestically destroys the economy from within.

  183. Hibernian says:
    @Resartus

    American weapons were left at Bagram. Additionally, the Taliban now has access to American fixed wing attack aircraft. (Whether from Bagram or other bases or both I don’t know.)

  184. Athena says:

    The Ides of August
    By Sarah Chayes

    (Excerpt)

    https://www.sarahchayes.org/post/the-ides-of-august

    ”Afghan government corruption, and the U.S. role enabling and reinforcing it. The last speaker of the Afghan parliament, Rahman Rahmani, I recently learned, is a multimillionaire, thanks to monopoly contracts to provide fuel and security to U.S. forces at their main base, Bagram. Is this the type of government people are likely to risk their lives to defend? ”

    ”Is that American democracy?”

  185. Anon[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Making the Deep State richer is a good reason but the real reason is that they will be sold on and will likely end up either in the Stans as an irritant to Russia or in the hands of the Uygers as an irritant to China, a win/win for those with evil intent.

  186. aj54 says:
    @Garliv

    My memory is incorrect (more frequently lately), that statement was from an article written within 6 months of the incident, I had no reason to doubt it then. However, a google search now turns up a list of 41 Naval Personnel and civilian employees of the Navy, there were also Army personnel in the immediate area. But there is no list I can find of who was where exactly when they died for all the individuals killed at the Pentagon.
    I did find this first article easily, there are many more. Of course, there have been pages scrubbed out in the ensuing 2 decades. There was never, and will never be, a proper examination of all the evidence. This first one talks a bit about the probability of planted explosive devices at the Pentagon. And the fact that commercial grade safes were melted. Like much of the evidence at the towers, that cannot be done by jet fuel and office furniture.

    http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2912
    in reference to the helicopter: https://rense.com/general70/hole.htm
    https://911planeshoax.com/2020/09/11/proof-that-no-real-planes-were-used-on-911/

    Sorry to be so long getting back to you on your question, life intervenes.

  187. profnasty says:
    @RoatanBill

    I dig the DOD thing. But I’m recently informed we spend 4x more on Welfare checks.
    Seems we’re caught between Iraq and a hard place.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Brad Anbro
  188. profnasty says:
    @Rooster11

    After we figure out which family member SHOULD be shot.

    fify

  189. @profnasty

    The entirety of the Fed Gov needs to disappear along with the Federal Reserve, the bloated useless military and all the federal employees. The whole thing is nothing but waste and misuse of funds.

    The states should become countries and let competition between them determine which policies are winners and which are losers. As it is with the Fed Gov, there is no competition and that’s why there is no innovation in anything, including governance.

  190. What a poorly written non sensical article.
    Although it is true that the total US security apparatus is undoubtedly gunning for any White American male for the “sin” of daring to vote Republican and not allow the leftists currently in power to complete their destruction of America and all that makes it great.What would the author of this tripe have us do ? Surrender to every terrorist outfit in the ME ?
    Do you really believe that they will stay in their repulsive “holy land” and not seek to attack western nations at every opportunity ?
    The Muslim world declared openly to be at war with Christianity…as they say… “they started it”.
    Remember a little thing called 9-11 ?

  191. @mephisto

    “you moron” – takes one to know one, as my wise mother used to say…

  192. @profnasty

    “4x more on Welfare checks” – What do you expect? “They” have destroyed most of the well-paying jobs in our country, moving them to China, Vietnam and other “Third World” countries, to take advantage of prison & sweat-shop labor.

    About the only industry left in the USA is the armaments industry. And the financial “industry” – if you can call it an “industry.” I call it one big Ponzi scheme.

    Oh! We can’t forget about the phony “War on Drugs” and the equally phony “War on Terror.” ALL supported by the American taxpayer, through fictitious debt, created through the issuance of fiat currency.

    As George Carlin said in one of his videos, “It’s a big club and we ain’t in it!”

  193. Excellent article, Mr. Giraldi. I agree with everything that you have written!

  194. Barr says:

    National security adviser John Bolton insisted Sunday that the U.S. did not pay North Korea \$2 million for the medical care of Otto Warmbier, despite a U.S. official signing a document pledging to do so.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-bolton-north-korea-otto-warmbier-medical-bills

    Evil is alive , very much alive .

    ——
    A something ( Republican Congress man) on BBC is saying that no one in congress will step up to sign off that Taliban is not a terror organization anymore .
    May be mr A will be educated about East Turkmenistan
    and MEK( the Iranian cult )

  195. barr says:

    McFaul goes off the cliff:

    When the aperture of this discussion is widened from anti-corruption to democracy more broadly, there is some good news from Ukraine.

    Ukraine continues to hold free, fair and competitive elections. It maintains a vibrant civil society, and enjoys more competition among private media companies (even if the oligarchs own too many of them) than any other post-Soviet country other than the Baltics.
    After initial hesitation, Zelensky himself is acting more forcefully. His decision to ban pro-Russia television networks, and to charge their owner and Putin ally Viktor Medvedchuk with treason, was a daring act that needs U.S. support.

  196. @RoatanBill

    Been reading your stuff. I can help you some.

    What I don’t understand is why the equipment was left in working order. You would think that the military might have access to explosives to destroy anything they couldn’t or didn’t want to cart off.

    Remember, that equipment was left to the US installed Afghani gov’t that promptly surrendered to the Taliban. IMO, this was pre-arranged.

    Trying to destroy it, after the fact, would have caused more complications than would be solved.

    To me this is deliberate.

    Yes, but you apparently had a different idea why.

    The US military is accustomed to getting huge amounts of funds for their toys and possibly their entitlement mentality figured there’s more where that came from and they just couldn’t be bothered to throw a grenade into a chopper or even a gallon of fuel and a match. I remember video of helicopters being thrown overboard when the US quit Vietnam.

    Again, the gallon of fuel and match option are not applicable for the US. The US installed Afghani gov’t, rather the natives trained by the US to support it, made the correct decision (or were ordered) to lay down their arms and flee. Had they fought, or destroyed the equipment, they would not have received amnesty.

    The helicopters were jettisoned to make room for more evacuaees. Since combat was over, this was the correct decision.

    This strengthens my theory that the US military is the US’s soft dictatorship command and control that is accountable to no one. Who else would so cavalierly walk away from supposed sophisticated weapons systems without even denying them to their enemy?

    It is much bigger, and older, than that. Those weapons are half way across the world, they are no direct threat to us. And how did you say it, “rounding error”?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  197. @Randy Dazzler

    It appears you are an apologist for anything the State does.

    From my perspective, everyone that initiated and continued the invasion of the Middle East, including every president, member of congress, military filth and contractor, are guilty of war crimes and should be hung from the neck till dead.

    • Replies: @Randy Dazzler
  198. @RoatanBill

    It appears you are an apologist for anything the State does.

    It appears that I believe there should be a State, and is should be formally proscribed.

    From my perspective, everyone that initiated and continued the invasion of the Middle East, including every president, member of congress, military filth and contractor, are guilty of war crimes and should be hung from the neck till dead.

    Now, who is the Statist? If you read my stuff, you would note that I oppose the death penalty strongly as that is too powerful, and too corruptible, to be handled by any group of people.

    You would note that I oppose laws against abortion as that sets a precedence (State ownership of your body) that is too powerful, and too corruptible, to be handled by any group of people.

    Likewise, I think the Drug War was a Constitutional travesty, and there is a boatload of governmental corruption to be exposed and prosecuted there.

    You will also see that the exposure of these crimes, and appropriate restitution and punishment is a theme I pound on.

    If you want to continue to be a reactionary brat, I can play this all day. Take my advice, read what I have written, I am significantly further up the road than you.

    Read it all. It is an intentional composition with a message. A gestalt message, if you are wise enough. I won’t be responding to your further. Shoot from the hip opponents are too shallow.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  199. @Randy Dazzler

    I don’t give two shits about what you’ve written except what you wrote in your original response to my post. You now segued into another of my posts to start a conversation I have no interest in with you.

    I notice you didn’t continue on the original post because I assume you have no cogent riposte.

    • Replies: @Randy Dazzler
  200. @RoatanBill

    I don’t give two shits about what you’ve written except what you wrote in your original response to my post.

    This says a lot about you. You are not my intended audience, but would still benefit. Horse/water/drink and all that. Good luck.

    I notice you didn’t continue on the original post because I assume you have no cogent riposte.

    I did, I must have hit the overall reply button, sorry.

    https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/9-11-the-controlled-demolition-of-trust-in-authority/#comment-4900446

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