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Somehow everything keeps coming back around to Russia. In one of its recent initiatives, the Justice Department (DOJ) appears to be attacking the First Amendment as part of the apparent bipartisan program to make Vladimir Putin the fall guy for everything that goes wrong in Washington. In the past month, the DOJ has revealed that the FBI is investigating Russian owned news outlets Sputnik News and RT International and has sent letters to the latter demanding that one of its business affiliates register as a foreign agent by October 17th. The apparent line of inquiry that the Bureau is pursuing is that both are agencies of the Russian government and that both have been spreading disinformation that is intended to discredit the United States government and its institutions. This alleged action would make them, in the DOJ view, a propaganda arm of a foreign government rather than a news service. It also makes them subject to Department of the Treasury oversight under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938.

Sputnik, which is owned by a Russian government media group headed by Putin consigliere Dimitri Kiselyov, has been under investigation due to the accusations made by a fired broadcaster named Andrew Feinberg. Feinberg, the former Sputnik White House correspondent, reportedly took with him a thumb drive containing some thousands of internal business files when he left his office. He has been interviewed by the FBI, has turned over his documents, and has claimed that much of the direction over what the network covered came from Moscow.

RT America, more television oriented than Sputnik, operates through two business entities: RTTV America and RTTV Studios. The Department of Justice has refused to identify which of the businesses has been targeted by a letter calling for registration under FARA, but it is believed to be RTTV America, which provides both operational support of the broadcasting as well as the production facilities. Both companies are actually owned by Russian-American businessman Alex Yazlovsky, though the funding for them presumably comes from the Russian government.

I have noticed very little pushback in the U.S. mainstream and alternative media regarding the Department of Justice moves, presumably because there is a broad consensus that the Russians have been interfering in our “democracy” and have had it coming. If that assumption on my part is correct, the silence over the issue reflects a certain naïvete while also constituting a near perfect example of a pervasive tunnel vision that obscures the significant collateral damage that might be forthcoming.

News organizations are normally considered to be exempt from the requirements of FARA. The Department of Justice action against the two Russian major media outlets is unprecedented insofar as I could determine. Even Qatar owned al-Jazeera, which was so vilified during the early stages of the Afghan War that it had its Kabul offices bombed by the U.S., did not have to register under FARA, was permitted to operate freely, and was even allowed to buy a television channel license for its American operations.

The DOJ is in effect saying that RT and Sputnik are nothing more than propaganda organs and do not qualify as journalism. I would have to disagree if one goes by the standards of contemporary journalism in the United States. America’s self-described “newspapers of record” the New York Times and the Washington Post pretend that they have a lock on stories that are “true.” The Post has adopted the slogan “Democracy Dies in Darkness” while the Times proclaims “The truth is more important now than ever,” but anyone who has read either paper regularly for the past year knows perfectly well that they have been as often as not leading propaganda organs for Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, pushing a particular agenda and denigrating Donald Trump. They differ little from the admittedly biased television news reporting provided by Fox News and MSNBC.

What exactly did the Russians do? According to last January’s report signed off on by the FBI, CIA and NSA, which may have motivated the DOJ to take action, RT and Sputnik “consistently cast President-elect Trump as the target of unfair coverage from traditional U.S. media outlets that they claimed were subservient to a corrupt political establishment.” Well, they certainly got that one right and did better in their reporting of what was going on among the American public than either the Washington Post or New York Times.

Regarding Sputnik, Feinberg claimed inter alia that he was “pushed” to ask questions at White House press briefings suggesting that Syria’s Bashar al-Assad was not responsible for some of the chemical attacks that had taken place. One wonders at Feinberg’s reluctance as Sputnik and RT were not the only ones expressing skepticism over the claims of Syrian involvement, which have been widely debunked. And why is expressing a credible alternative view on an event in Syria even regarded as propaganda damaging to the American public?

There is a difficult to distinguish line between FARA restricted “trying to influence opinion” using what is regarded a fake news and propaganda and legitimate journalism reporting stories where the “facts” have been challenged. Even real journalists choose to cover stories selectively, inevitably producing a certain narrative for the viewer, listener or reader. All news services do that to a greater or lesser extent.

I have considerable personal experience of RT in particular and, to a lesser extent, with Sputnik. I also know many others who have been interviewed by one or both. No one who has done so has ever been coached or urged to follow a particular line or support a specific position insofar as I know. Nor do I know anyone who has actually been paid to appear. Most of us who are interviewed are appreciative of the fact that we are allowed to air views that are essentially banned on the mainstream media to include critique of maladroit policies in places like Syria and Afghanistan and biting critiques of the war on terror.

Sputnik, in my opinion, does, however, lean heavily towards stories that are critical of the United States and its policies, while RT has a global reach and is much more balanced in what it covers. For sure, it too criticizes U.S. policies and is protective of the Russian government, but it does not substantially differ from other national news services that I have had done interviews for. I find as much uniquely generated negative reporting about the U.S. (usually linked to violence or guns) on BBC World News, France24 and Deutsche Welle as I do on RT International. To describe it as part of an “influence campaign” driven by a “state-run propaganda machine” has a kernel of truth but it is nevertheless a bit of a stretch since one could make the same claims about any government financed news service, including Voice of America. Governments only get into broadcasting to promote their points of view, not to inform the public.

There is a serious problem in the threats to use FARA as it could advance the ongoing erosion of freedom of the press in the United States by establishing the precedent that a foreign news services that is critical of the U.S. will no longer be tolerated. It is also hypocritical in that countries like Israel that interfere regularly in American politics are exempt from FARA registration because no one dares to take such a step, while Russia is fair game.

Going after news outlets also invites retaliation against U.S. media operating in Russia and, eventually, elsewhere. Currently Western media reports from Russia pretty much without being censored or pressured to avoid certain stories. I would note a recent series that appeared on CBS featuring the repulsive Stephen Colbert spending a week in Russia which mercilessly lampooned both the country and its government. No one arrested him or made him stop filming. No one claimed that he was trying to undermine the Russian government or discredit the country’s institutions, even though that is precisely what he was doing.

And then there is the issue of the “threat” posed by news media outlets like RT and Sputnik. Even combined the two services have limited access to the U.S. market, with a 2014 study suggesting that they have only 2.8 million actual weekly viewers. RT did not make the cut and is not included on the list of 100 most popular television channels in the U.S. and it has far less market penetration than other foreign news services like the BBC. It can be found on only a limited number of cable networks in a few, mostly urban areas. It does better in Europe, but its profile in the U.S. market is miniscule. As even bad news is good news in terms of selling a product, it probably did receive higher ratings when the intelligence agency report slamming it came out on it in January. Everyone probably wanted to learn what RT was all about.

So it seems to me that the United States’ moves against RT and Sputnik are little more than lashing out at a problem that is not really a problem in a bid to again promote the Russian “threat” to explain the ongoing dysfunction that prevails in America’s democratic process. One keeps reading or hearing how the American government has “indisputable” proof of Moscow’s intentions to subvert democracy in the U.S. as well as in Europe but the actual evidence is still elusive. Will Russiagate end with a bang or a whimper? No one seems to know.

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  1. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I’m sure you can write your ideas and suggestions to someone. I’m pretty sure you could talk with your fellow leftists and find out to who to send that to. I think I seen a sight where even Hillary supports you and your initiative and the democrats are just so great on civil rights of “all” of citizens snicker. Or you take down the whites and that just fixes everything.

    “The Open Government Initiative is an effort by the administration of President of the United States Barack Obama to “creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government.”.[1] The directive starting this initiative was issued on January 20, 2009, Obama’s first day in office.[2]
    The philosophy of the initiative is that the government should be transparent, participatory and collaborative. Agencies across the federal government are establishing Open Government Web pages and asking the public for ideas and suggestions.”

    Here try her she’s progressive.
    “Video and full transcript of remarks made by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Brazil Foreign Minister Antonio Patriota at the Open Government Partnership High-Level Meeting held July 12, 2011, at the State Department in Washington, DC.”
    “We believe this new global effort to improve governance, accelerate economic growth, and empower citizens worldwide is exactly what we should all be doing together in the 21st century. ”
    Wow is that a knife in peoples back? Who exactly believes we should be doing this “worldwide”? Is that running around the world installing “democracies” building armies, supplying weapons, jobs, technologies, ( tech mainly used used against us. especially those who don’t like the plan) The democrats wouldn’t be working all this with the fine folks at the US would they? Then all those people in those other countries to include you just blame us white Christians, a big you gotta go, in our face. Nobody blames the real creeps they just lay on it us poor white slobs.
    Here’s some more of your gal hillary,
    “I think we can say without fear of contradiction that there is an undeniable connection between how a government operates and whether its people flourish. When a government invites its people to participate, when it is open as to how it makes decisions and allocates resources, when it administers justice equally and transparently, and when it takes a firm stance against corruption of all kinds, that government is, in the modern world, far more likely to succeed in designing and implementing effective policies and services.”
    I wonder how it’s all working out, any new statues to tear down, or any other history you’d all like to lay on our shoulders while your so busy getting everyone to share and discuss except of course whites can just be deleted.

  2. The irony is RT news is pretty much dominated by Progs and Leftists. It’s not Russian Nationalist or Conservative. But it features the kinds of Progs who do question and challenge Globalist Oligarchs of the West.

    • Agree: Talha
  3. They need Russia to be an enemy to justify their actions and the Europeans want to use the US to threaten Russia. Its a shame this can’t be generalized against all foreign agents of influence. The US Mainstream Media is basically an arm of the Hasbara. Their guest from think tanks are foreign agents of influence. Its not fun watching a bunch of foreigners and their domestic owned Americans run the US Empire into the ground.

  4. As psychopaths lose their grip over the target, they change from cool, calm, lie-to-your face con men to pathetic, shrieking cartoons of themselves.

    The shredders were working overtime, bleach bit, hammers, cell phones wiped, people bumped off, closing up all of the criminal gangster operations of the government before Trump got in.

    They can’t get rid of him, not suing for re-counts, not getting him declared incompetent, not stage-managed riots of Soros stooges, not a fake dossier with Russian whores peeing on the Donald’s bed, not screeching about Russia…

    Eventually, if our Republic is worth a shit at all, these crimes will finally be acknowledged and the hysteria over Russia will subside.

  5. The huge lumbering predator, as it’s strength slowly, slowly fades lashes out at the flies & mozzies that encircle it….

    • Replies: @Paranam Kid
  6. What the Russians appear to have clearly recognized is how to take advantage of the corrupt nature of the western ‘mainstream’ press, an institution which has been co-opted by western intelligence agencies for a very long time.

    The Russian method? It could not be more simple; report the actual facts in the geopolitical contest and when this is inconvenient, practice lies by omission…

    …Depending on the geopolitical reality of the day, for instance whether the paranoid ego-maniac Sultan Erdogan of Turkey is behaving well or not, the stories by western dissident journalists that will withstand a close scrutiny are run in Russian or Russia friendly media outlets. The result? Odds are 100:1 you’ll get more reliable information from Russian state TV or Russian sponsored websites than from ABC, CBS, CNN or NBC

    My take from 10 or so months ago. I don’t really think much has changed except for the ‘Russia hacked the election’ story is clearly more false than ever; with narcissism queen Julian Assange holding the story hostage:


  7. Realist says:

    “Is it news or propaganda?”

    I take it you are referring to the US media.

  8. Russia has been remarkably restrained in its counteractions. But retaliate fully it will. China is getting its retaliation in first, with plans for an oil futures market, trading in yuan, in Shanghai already near completion. The days of the Petro-dollar seem numbered. Will American hegemony collapse with a bang or a whimper? No one seems to know.
    Either way, ten years from now, ” Russiagate “, a fake scandal, will be almost completely forgotten, rather like major real scandals earlier this century like Enron. The latter seems to have been pushed right down the memory hole.

  9. Did the censors turn Anglin into a folk hero?

    LOL. He got DS running from Iceland, then Catalonia.
    Now, its Philippines.

    The DS World Tour continues. Clown Streicher is ‘gypsy nazi’.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  10. This is further evidence that the yankee regime walks and talks like a fascist duck. Its deep state and its media acolytes, Carlos Slim’s New York Times, CIA contractor Bezos’ Washington Post, PBS, the corporate parasite broadcast system, CNN, the Clinton News Network, NBC, home of professional lesbian deepstate lackey Rachel Maddow, CBS and ABC (along with government owned satellite state medias like BBC, CBC and Australia’s ABC are quintessential propaganda outlets. While the Russian outlets are naturally pro-Russian, they are less openly propagandistic than the US-controlled propaganda press, which is on the side of barbarism in its attitudes toward the middle east and NATO issues.

  11. LondonBob says:

    I actually find the quality of guests on RT to be far superior to what the British news channels offer, embarrassingly so really as these guests seem easy enough to find whilst the likes of the BBC believe the ill informed opinions of journalists is only of interest. RT UK is also a lot more politically balanced with most of the media seemingly having ditched the old ethos that they should at least make some vague attempt at balance. RT’s coverage of the migrant crisis was in stark contrast to the British media’s cheer leading. In addition in the past few years Palestine has completely disappeared from British screens however RT still covers the occupation as well as matters such as the USS Liberty.

    Anyway this does seem like part and parcel of the attempt to increasingly suppress the press and free speech in the West, whether that is driven by lefty ideologues, zionists, an unthinking security apparatus or a military with no purpose.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t trust Russia one bit, but Mr. Giraldi makes a good case.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Anonymous
  13. Tom Welsh says:

    “He has been interviewed by the FBI, has turned over his documents, and has claimed that much of the direction over what the network covered came from Moscow”.

    Astonishing and highly incriminating. But wait! I also learn, in late-breaking news, that much of the direction over what the BBC covers comes from London.

    I await news that the BBC has been designated a “foreign agent”.

    Of course, you know and I know that isn’t ever going to happen.

    And why? It’s perfectly simple: the British government takes its orders from Washington and obeys them meekly. That means it is not an “antagonist” of the USA.

    “If you’re not with us, you’re against us”. The practical meaning of that slogan is that “if you don’t obey us immediately and exactly, down to the last detail, and if you don’t behave with perfect self-effacing humility at all times, you are not a good slave: that means you must be an enemy”.

    Exactly what the Athenians told the Melians before they killed all the men of fighting age and enslaved everyone else.

  14. Talha says:

    Is it news or propaganda?

    It’s just different propaganda than what our rulers would like fed to us. They don’t like others horning in on their act.


  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    FBI will be able to get to the bottom of this. They are good at ferreting out the guilty after years of investigation and 24/7 surveillance… and the real suspect showing himself to them. Just ask Brian J. Kelley, Richard Jewell, Steven Hatfill, et al.

  16. One of the funnier opinion roundtables I ever saw featured two gents, one from the BBC and one from RT. The BBC guy bloviated for some time about how RT is a propaganda organ that is state sponsored. The RT guy merely pointed out that the BBC is also state sponsored, launching BBC guy into sputtering apoplectic meltdown.

    Methinks DC doth protest too much, and therein belies the reality of the situation.

  17. anarchyst says:

    FBI=Fools, Buffoons, Imbeciles

  18. Z-man says:

    RT was on Verizon Fios in my area.. and then it was taken off. I ‘subscribe’ to conspiracy theories.
    Putin Trump 2017-25!!
    Russia and America must rule the world, make it safe for Christian white people and break the power of the Cabal!
    Ok, I know, I need to take a break, lol!

  19. @Johnny F. Ive

    “the Europeans want to use the US to threaten Russia” – baloney! The US wants to use (and is using) the Europeans to threaten Russia. The Europeans don’t want to have American military bases there. It’s the Americans who want to be there.

  20. Somehow the spooks always keep coming back to Russia! Why is Russiagate spooking the spooks?

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Carroll Price
  21. To be quite frank I hope that the US declares RT/Sputnik foreign agents (or bans them outright).

    1. They are more interested in Putin hagiography and idiotic conspiracy theories than intelligent propaganda anyway.

    2. They are ineffective, especially Sputnik. According to SimilarWeb, it only gets a total of 2.5 million monthly visitors from the US. That’s almost an like level of visitorship even though Ron’s budget and attention of social media/advertising crap is many orders of magnitude lower than Sputniks. Russian taxpayers don’t deserve this.

    3. Gives Russia a great excuse to kick out dishonest Western journalists (about 75% of them).

    • LOL: Vinteuil
  22. @Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften

    The Europeans don’t want to have American military bases there.

    Not true. Some Europeans may not want that, but many others are perfectly content with the state of the affairs. As per Eastern Europe–majority of them want US military bases.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Talha
  23. Jake says:

    What was made clear by Mr. Lincoln and his Civil War was that the WASP Elites, the Yankee rich and powerful, saw the 1st Amendment as meaning all speech they supported would be actively promoted by Government while all speech they opposed would be shut down.

    That was in keeping with the culture’s source: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Puritans spouted Free Speech all dan and all of the night, and if you dared speak against Cromwell or the Revolution, you paid dearly.

    Hypocrisy about free speech is deep in the WASP DNA.

    Angles and Saxons were Germanic tribes. WASP culture is Germanic. Germanics have always seen Slavs as inferior peoples they should war against perpetually, to steal their best land and make serfs of the survivors. This obsession with screwing with Russia is simply the contemporary manifestation of that part of the problem of unrestrained Germanic culture.

    • Replies: @Wally
  24. iffen says:

    … we are allowed to air views that are essentially banned on the mainstream media to include critique of maladroit policies in places like Syria and Afghanistan and biting critiques of the war on terror.

    It is also hypocritical in that countries like Israel that interfere regularly in American politics are exempt from FARA registration because no one dares to take such a step, while Russia is fair game.


    Almost made it!

    • Replies: @Anon
  25. Jake says:

    I don’t trust Russia any more than you do. I have even less, much less, trust, for the UK, Germany, France, the EU, as well as America’s Democrats and Neocons.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Wally
  26. Russia: White and Christian, sounds like an ideal ally for the United States.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  27. Anonymous [AKA "John Fitzgerald"] says:

    If the Feds are going to make RT register as a foreign agent due to foreign funding, where does it stop? On the same basis, all nationally owned news outlets must be forced to register, e.g., BBC, Al Jezeera, etc. And what about nominally non-government owned news entities that a home government renders financial assistance, eg, the London Times, if it needed government loans to survive? Would it be a British foreign agent? And what about the New York Times, which in its perilous financial state appears to be substantially supported by loans from a Mexican National, Carlos Slim who in turn must be assumed to work hand-in-hand with the Mexican government, since most of his wealth comes from Mexican government-granted franchises. Should the New York Times be registered as a Mexican foreign agent (its news coverage and editorials regarding immigration certainly would be evidence it is acting in that capacity)?

  28. Wade says:

    OT… If anyone wants to catch a nice laid back interview with Phil Geraldi they can do so here:

    A lengthy discussion about his sacking at TAC and AIPAC is had with Ryan Dawson. Both put in nice plugs for I was really happy to see Phil being interviewed by Ryan. I hope they do this again sometime.

    I came to Unz for Steve Sailer but Geraldi is slowly becoming my favorite author here. Thanks for sticking with things Phil. You’re doing great work.

  29. Sam Shama says:
    @Priss Factor

    Priss, your comments are really funny. “Clown Streicher is a ‘gypsy nazi’” Is Anglin a violent fruitboy like Streicher?

  30. @Jake

    That was in keeping with the culture’s source: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Puritans spouted Free Speech all dan and all of the night, and if you dared speak against Cromwell or the Revolution, you paid dearly.

    Hypocrisy about free speech is deep in the WASP DNA.

    Angles and Saxons were Germanic tribes. WASP culture is Germanic. Germanics have always seen Slavs as inferior peoples they should war against perpetually, to steal their best land and make serfs of the survivors. This obsession with screwing with Russia is simply the contemporary manifestation of that part of the problem of unrestrained Germanic culture.

    What of King Arthur? How did Britain go from Arthur to Cromwell?
    What role Henry VIII, and Dutch banking/ Bank of England?

    How did Russia go from Tolstoy to Trotsky?
    What role Jacob Schiff and atheist Bolshevism/Communism?

    How did Germany go from Wagner to Merkel( after a brief Hitler Interruptus)?
    What role Rothschild, Marx/Zinoviev and Zionism?

    FDR and Churchill were determined to keep organizationally strong Germany and resource-rich Russia — Christian Russia — from uniting; Cromwell’s England and Morgenthau’s USA wanted to control German skill and Russian resources; their heirs want the same today.

    Arthur’s Britain and Wagner’s Germany are natural allies of Tolstoy’s Russia (and also of Virgil’s Italy and Ferdowsi’s Persia, btw).

    Toss over this White nonsense, it tells no story, moves no souls.

    The Books that matter have been supplanted by adoration of the spiderwebs of “querulous, freakish sects.”

    Trash the bloody notion that writings emerging from an Abrahamic murderous monopoly on god form the basis of civilization. If ever books needed banning —.

    Hark back to the cultural foundations of Europe found in its great epics.

    • Replies: @Sherman
  31. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I know! I know! Too damned difficult to go cold turkey.

  32. RobinG says:

    “Sputnik…..has been under investigation due to the accusations made by a fired broadcaster named Andrew Feinberg.”

    The amazing thing is that Feinberg ever had the job. In this painful interview, he readily admits to little knowledge and less interest in the particulars of Ukrainian/Crimean/Russian history, politics and recent events. Despite this inadequacy, he’s managed to use his dismissal for self-promotion.

    Talking to ex-Sputnik employee Andrew Feinberg about “Russian propaganda”

    • Replies: @edNels
  33. anon • Disclaimer says:

    And on the flip side maybe all the Jewish/Israeli news organizations will register too, maybe even AIPAC.
    Foreign is foreign and fighting wars for foreign interests is no virtue.

    It’s no wonder we are able to make so many new frands and they just moving into the west everywhere.
    Spending taxpayer money in foreign countries is helping the US taxpayer. I guess moving a quarter of the population that said foreign country can’t take care of and dumping them on the US taxpayer and their children is our gift. Then give them jobs here too. This lovely idea was signed initially during the Clinton admin with the UN, and put into place during the Bush admin. Dems just hate corps except when they are their own. (Hegelian Dialectic at play everywhere) 20 Rillion in Debt.

    Millennium Challenge Corporation
    “MCC is a prime example of smart U.S. Government assistance in action, benefiting both developing countries and U.S. taxpayers through:

    Competitive selection: Before a country can become eligible to receive assistance, MCC’s Board examines its performance on independent and transparent policy indicators and selects compact-eligible countries based on policy performance.
    Country-led solutions: MCC requires selected countries to identify their priorities for achieving sustainable economic growth and poverty reduction. Countries develop their MCC proposals in broad consultation within their society. MCC teams then work in close partnership to help countries refine a program.
    Country-led implementation: MCC administers the Millennium Challenge Account (MCA). When a country is awarded a compact, it sets up its own local MCA accountable entity to manage and oversee all aspects of implementation. Monitoring of funds is rigorous and transparent, often through independent fiscal agents.
    MCC forms partnerships with some of the world’s poorest countries, but only those committed to:

    good governance,
    economic freedom,
    and investments in their citizens.”

  34. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting interview. Kind of disappointed not to see any evidence of Christianity in Giraldi’s home, or at least not in that camera shot. Maybe his naïveté in approaching the issue, which brought on the artillary barrage, is due to his being oblivious to the larger spiritual, civilizational, battle going on. Forest/trees.

    “Accumulating knowledge is a form of avarice and lends itself to another version of the Midas story …man is so avid for knowledge that everything that he touches turns to facts; his faith becomes theology; his love becomes lechery; his wisdom becomes science; pursuing meaning, he ignores truth.” -Malcolm Muggeridge

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @iffen
  35. Don Bacon says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Without Russia the US Army would have no real reason to exist, Canada and Mexico being benign, because we all know that the US taxpayers are on the hook to defend Europe against the nasty powerful Russians which (mainly) defeated Germany in the last big one, and the US Army is a large political force with many bases, half a million people, and a huge budget.

  36. Talha says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    As per Eastern Europe–majority of them want US military bases.

    “Let’s you and him fight!”


    • Replies: @Frankie P
  37. The big corps are using their bought government to eliminate competition to their concentrated domestic media oligarchy. They can buy up all the domestic outlets, those outside have to be banned.

    It is ludicrous to blame foreigners for all your ills, when the vast majority of your country is itself made up of foreigners and their descendants, except for the tiny remainder of American Indians. Which identifies properly another way to identify the enemy destroying your nation: look in the mirror first.

  38. RobinG says:

    Thank you for posting. Not only is this a great interview with Phil, it’s (for me) a much appreciated introduction to Ryan Dawson.

  39. @Anatoly Karlin

    What you hope for is not in the interest of those of us who believe in free and unfettered discourse, which principle is one of the core reasons to believe in ideals that are supposed to define America.

    It’s fine to question foreign funded media, but it’s against everything we are supposed to stand for to ban them.

    As the famous jurist wrote, the answer to bad speech is more speech.

    Let’s debate what’s said by foreigners, and their advocates, whether Russian, British, Israeli or any other. Our own government is not famous for truthfulness to the public, either. Let our own government answer them, if they question it, and let us determine where the truth lies, instead of being lied to.

    • Replies: @Talha
  40. I watch programs on RT fairly frequently, and moreso with the arrival of the current crop of sitcoms, mindlessly insane ‘dramas’, firemen and cops shows, etc. Lotsa good stuff on RT. If you read the credits, you will find that most of the specials and magazines are not Russian productions. It’s a good place to learn that much of the rest of world journalism bears no resemblance to the propaganda machines of the US networks.

    US TV and radio production is a vast web of fabrications designed for social control, to manipulate public opinion, and to reinforce the will of the wealthy and powerful. The US government is corrupt throughout; the purpose of US media is to turn the public eye away from that corruption.

  41. iffen says:

    it’s (for me) a much appreciated introduction to Ryan Dawson.

    Resist the allure of the Dark Side, RobinG.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  42. @Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften

    A decade or so ago, when we still had a number of US bases in Germany, my German colleagues and neighbours used to ask why most of the GIs never left the base and only used Dollars for most of their commerce, again mostly on base, though a few merchants took Dollars on a rather good exhange basis that a local could arbitrage if he was paying attention. I experienced some of that a few decades ago myself when on TDY in Europe. The US might want bases there, but a non-trivial number of the troops can’t be bothered to wander outside the gates very often, and may as well be in Nebraska or South Dakota for all their interest in being there.

    As for the Europeans, a lot of the local merchants did want the bases there, and a lot of the locals welcomed the Amis. There were also places where the Amis represented a big payoff for the smallest things; you would be surprised how productive egg-layers Portuguese chickens were after you ran over one and found yourself compensating the farmer for all the eggs it would have laid in its life.

  43. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I’m not sure why it is but we always seem to be on the Muslims side, everywhere to the detriment of our own societies.

    “Russia may be tightening its grip on Crimea, with little resistance to date, but they have yet to face the Crimean Tatar factor.

    There are 266,000 Crimean Tatars in Crimea, over 13% of the local population. They are Sunni Muslim, traditionally pro-Ukrainian, and much better organised than the local Ukrainians, who make up 23% of the population.”

    “For more than a year, Chechens, Muslims from southwestern Russia, have been fighting on both sides of Ukraine’s struggle against Russian occupation.

    The undeniably frank reason one anti-Russia militiaman recently gave The New York Times? “We always fight the Russians.”

    The Chechens have had a long and tense relationship with Russia’s central government, alternatively fighting for independence and courting special favor from the rulers in Moscow. When Russia annexed the Ukrainian territory of Crimea in March 2014, it once again gave Chechens a reason to push back against Russian overreach”

    We have plenty of Muslims in Congress to represent their people. I’m sure our alphabet agencies have plenty too. According to Wikipedia almost no one likes Russia.

    “Widespread ethnic cleansing accompanied the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95), as large numbers of Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks) and Bosnian Croats were forced to flee their homes and were expelled by Bosnian Serbs;[1] and some Bosnian Croats also carried out similar campaign against Bosniaks and Serbs. Also, Bosnian Muslims conducted similar acts against Croats, especially in Central Bosnia.[2]”

    Fought for these in Afghanistan. Ex president made a home at the UN.
    “The Afghan Northern Alliance, officially known as the United Islamic Front for the Salvation of Afghanistan (Persian: جبهه متحد اسلامی ملی برای نجات افغانستان‎‎ Jabha-yi Muttahid-i Islāmi-yi Millī barāyi Nijāt-i Afghānistān), was a military front that came to formation in late 1996 after the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (Taliban) took over Kabul. The United Front was assembled by key leaders of the Islamic State of Afghanistan, particularly president Burhanuddin Rabbani and former Defense Minister Ahmad Shah Massoud. Initially it included mostly Tajiks but by 2000, leaders of other ethnic groups had joined the Northern Alliance. This included Abdul Rashid Dostum, Mohammad Mohaqiq, Abdul Qadir, Asif Mohseni and others.”

    “The Afghan-Bosnian Mujahideen Network in Europe
    By Evan F. Kohlman”

    Wow it just goes on.

  44. Talha says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Hey Fran,

    I like what you’re bringing to the table here. I think the big issue is that money runs the show. Big media, which is where many people still get their information is just rotten at the core. How to fix it? I don’t know – maybe the internet (which is still relatively young) will be the new frontier for bring truth to the masses.

    But that is also a big IF – since there is so much on the internet which is just trash and lacks any sort of serious vetting.


    • Replies: @iffen
    , @SolontoCroesus
    , @RobinG
  45. @animalogic

    That is a nice succinct way of describing the failing Empire 😉

  46. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Russiagate” has been a farce from the very beginning, an attempt by that fat-ass witch to divert attention from the 30K emails–which is where the REAL scandal lies!! And where do we stand on that issue anyway? I won’t hold my breath waiting.

  47. iffen says:

    will be the new frontier for bring truth to the masses

    Whose truth?

    Plus, there is a difference between discourse and propaganda.

    The 88s here are not confounded so much by not being allowed free discourse as they are whinging about the fact that their propaganda and motivated opinion pieces are not carried 24/7 by every available outlet.

    • Replies: @Talha
  48. @Talha

    How to fix it? I don’t know – maybe the internet . . . that is also a big IF – since there is so much on the internet which is just trash and lacks any sort of serious vetting.

    The Israeli algorithm criminalizing Palestinians for online dissent
    Oct 4 2017

    “Israeli intelligence has developed a predictive policing system – a computer algorithm – that analyzes social media posts to identify Palestinian “suspects.” ”

    • Replies: @Talha
  49. RobinG says:

    Hi Talha,

    Here’s an articulate source. Until the web gets outright censored, beyond the select eliminating and demonetizing that’s happening now. See also Ryan Dawson’s interview of Phil at comment #28.

    War for Oil? (((Whose oil?)))

    • Replies: @Talha
  50. RobinG says:

    Thanks for volunteering to give us a review. I just watched a minute. (((Don’t know how I missed this.)))

    Decades of Deception

  51. Anonymous [AKA "Reality Checker"] says:

    I don’t trust Russia one bit . . .

    And why is that? Because your government and their MSM sycophants have brainwashed you to think that way? It’s time people like you that have this inherent distrust of Russia get a grip and start using some critical thinking skills. I know that’s really hard but give it a try, o.k.?

  52. Talha says:

    Whose truth?

    I’ll just be happy to get facts at this point. Most can’t be bothered to get that part straight. The MSM dropped the baton big time. Now people all over the internet are picking it up – the problem I see is information glut. How does one sift through the incredible amount of information.


  53. Talha says:

    Hey S2C,

    Well – I definitely wasn’t hoping for that kind of vetting!!!


  54. Talha says:

    Wow – thanks RobinG! I actually had no clue about that angle!!!

    This article backs that up – 77% – that is massive!

    No wonder Israel is making ties to Kurdistan and bucking the central government of Iraq. If the central govt was to assert control, those numbers would change fairly quickly.

    And – damn – Kushner’s in on this stuff (it’s amazing what that guy is up to in a completely unofficial capacity):

    The Kurdish leadership is setting themselves up for disaster.


    • Replies: @iffen
  55. iffen says:

    What’s going to happen when “the Iranians” attack the Kurds?

    Uncle Sam to the rescue?

    • Replies: @Talha
  56. Sherman says:

    Hey Chuck

    What was that part about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?


    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  57. Talha says:

    What’s going to happen when “the Iranians” attack the Kurds?

    Not sure if that’ll happen – there’s still time to prevent that from taking place. But if it does, it’ll likely come from three sides; Turks, Persians and Arabs – since a new Kurdish territory is going to affect the territorial integrity of each one of those existing states.

    Uncle Sam to the rescue?

    The guy who spilled the milk comes back to spill some more – no thanks. Certainly Israel isn’t going to lift a finger – maybe they’ll give the Kurdish leadership exile status in Haifa or something for being good pets.

    The Kurdish leadership is being very short-sighted – no one is going to back them if they get attacked by those three parties. Is the US going to tango with a NATO member? But it could just be that their army gets trounced in the field after putting up a solid resistance and they are able to use that to get reassurances from those various states that Kurds will have a better seat at their respective national assemblies. I certainly don’t know the future, but it just seems like the current trajectory is bad.


    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @iffen
  58. Sloopyjoe says:

    Sputnik and RT are targeted in order to keep the “Boogey Man” alive by the following parties:

    1) Globalist Banksters – They desperately need continued wars to distract the global peasants from the banker-caused multi-hundred trillion \$ coming derivatives time-bomb and to keep their drug wash flow going. Also, its getting more and more difficult to keep under wraps the Dual-Financing of the “Official” Govts and “Deep State (SSP)” Govts. “Gotta keep those Kabbalistic Blood Sacrifices going or our Invisible Sky Daddy will be mad at us and won’t let us on the Space Ship”.
    2) Big Pharma Slime (Vaccines/Viruses), GMO Sickos, Trans-Humanist Psychos, and Fascist Neo-Cons – “Just trying to get that Agenda21 Borg World going”. 500 million micro-chipped global population is the goal.
    3) The MIC – “We need more wars so we can keep force feeding our over-priced pieces of crap to our satellite colonies” and multi-trillion \$ financial redirect to the SSP.
    4) Israel – Russia and Iran (Persia) are the perennial enemies of the Talmudic Terrorists for kicking the Fake Jewish Khazarians/AshkeNAZIs out of their Western Asian homelands around 1250 AD. The psychotic and retarded (613 Talmudic Commandments, REALLY?) Clan Circumcision has a thing for blood feuds. Did you lose another Dolphin-Class Submarine?
    5) The dying USSA Empire of Tampons and associated prostitute Politicos – Former colonies are fleeing East faster than Barry from his wife Michael……er, I meant Michelle. Petro-Dollar going poof. USSA economy heading for the big flush regardless of the jiggered Plunge Protection Team numbers. “Must keep distracting our willfully-gullible peasant masses with more False Flags and Wars else they wise up and HANG US ALL”.

    And lastly

    6) Hillawi Bin-Gazi Dykehar – Former candidate with continued delusional desires for Puppet Pres. of the USSA and current Jihadi commandante of Al-Shiksa. Al-Shiksa was last seen campaigning at Costco. This terrorist group is populated by fat ill-tempered donut-bumping Psycho Wenches and Cucked Eunuchs. Their battle cry is rumored to be “We love chocolate cake!!!” or “Damn those Weiner Tapes!!!”. Sorry, my Shiksanese is not up to speed.

    Did I miss anybody? Thanks for viewing.

  59. polskijoe says:

    RT talks about mass immigration problems,
    shows more inside of Israel including their nasty policies,
    questions neocons and liberals.
    For an English speaking forum that is rare.

    The comment section.. sometimes its okay, sometimes bad.

    You will find conservative/traditional posters majority.
    Go to BBC, CNN, etc its liberal/”progressive” dominated.

    In the West Neocons and Liberals dominate the media.

    RT obviously has an agenda, probably divide. Sometimes comments get deleted.

  60. edNels says:

    Self promoting airhead interviews typical weasel, a waste of… pixels.

  61. RobinG says:

    Oh Talha, why must you dignify If-It the Dissembler with a serious reply? Are you enjoined to turn the other cheek?

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Talha
    , @L.K
  62. iffen says:

    Not the Iranians, “the Iranians.”

    In homage to a great man:

    Where there is war, a cause can be found.

  63. nsa says:

    A “reporter” named Feinberg turns out to be a traitorous rat actually working for the DOJ (Dept of Joostice). Who woulda thunk?

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  64. iffen says:


    What happened to unfettered discourse?

    Free, open and un-censored discussion?

    Shining bright lights everywhere?

    Letting a thousand parrots sing?

  65. Talha says:

    Hey RobinG,

    I’ve had some good exchanges with iffen – though rarely on the subject of Israel. We agree to disagree.

    But others might gain benefit in a serious reply that brings together some things they haven’t thought about.

    I think what the Kurdish leadership is doing is deplorable and will not lead to anything good – but unfortunately it seems much of their desire for a Kurdistan is being backed by a lot of their population. That being said; I do not want any more Muslim blood (or anybody else’s) being shed by other Muslims in that region. This fratricide has to end:
    “The believers are but a single brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your brethren; and fear God, that you may receive Mercy.” (49:10)


  66. Flavius says:

    Propaganda? Our political class is going to protect us from Propaganda? Our bureaucracies, the Pentagon, the CIA, the FBI, are going to protect us from Propaganda? If it doesn’t jibe with what our media organs of record are putting out, they’re going to stamp it Propaganda? Don’t make me laugh!
    The Propaganda is that those clowns wouldn’t call a pig a duck for a dime’s worth of advantage.
    “The Russians tried to influence our election” taken at face value and removed from the context of 65 years of american Foreign Policy is probably the most pernicious little bit of self serving swamp propaganda that I’ve ever seen. It appears to be the factoid that the Uniparty and its legions have chosen upon which to make their last stand… and to hell with the American people.

  67. utu says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Sputnik and also RT are not very effective. This is not because of Putin cult or hagiography. They are just not aggressive enough and they are too small and too few. They are forced to be on the defensive all the time and have no ability to created successful memes of “fake news” that would put the western MSM on the defensive. If anything they should get larger budgets and get better quality people. The establishment in Russia is more interested in propagandizing their own people, which is very understandable, than propagandizing people in other countries partly because they know they have no means to match the scale and intensity of western propaganda but chiefly because that is their mind set. Nevertheless as we can see, the system, the empire can’t stand even the little amount of alternative points of view that RT and Sputnik are able to inject into the their full spectrum dominated discourse.

    To be quite frank I hope that the US declares RT/Sputnik foreign agents (or bans them outright). – I hope you wrote this thoughtlessly because you were exasperated or upset or something. You should perhaps take it back. There is no question that Russia is better off with RT and Sputnik than w/o them. Any child understands it.

    • Replies: @chris
  68. @Sherman

    Hey Sherm,

    Happy Hour starts early in your crypt? Are you near bottom of the new brand of Jew whisky? (Sigh)

    I am Chuck Orloski and apparently S2C’s parent’s graced him by their teaching about (human) respect and how it’s an earned process.

    Selah. Real RT News.

  69. Vidi says:

    This assault on the First Amendment shows that the driving force behind the neocons is not American. A real American would tend to value the Constitution more.

  70. KenH says:

    As Priss Factor mentioned, RT and Sputnik do tend to be left of center on many issues, but they do appear to be sincere and independent leftists in contrast to the American prog establishment which has become just a dog and pony show controlled and directed by Jewish billionaires like Soros. RT especially is no friend of white nationalism although they have given figures on the racialist right air time on occasion.

    I do find they are more objective in foreign policy matters whereas the U.S. media , including, FOX, all sing from the same song sheet on foreign policy matters and only differ slightly in degree. But they rarely seem to criticize Israel.

    This action on the part of the Sessions DOJ is hypocritical in light of the fact that we routinely undermine governments and institutions in Ukraine and Russia via our NGO’s and in any nation whose foreign policy is deemed an impediment to the goals Israel and their American vassal state.

  71. Beckow says:

    Every banned political speech has always been banned because it was deemed ‘subversive’ or ‘divisive’. Or the new 20th century term ‘propaganda’. This has been the case for thousands of years, the censors always say that. No censor ever just banned free expression or said that it has to be banned because it is true. The banning is also often done by admin harassment, ‘foreign agent’ label, cutting access, etc..

    So the latest hysteria about banning RT/Sputnik is squarely in the mainstream of censorship. It meets all the usual criteria: foreign influence, trying to stir up discord, undermining the system (that would be ‘democracy’ in US). And the methods are also the usual one: registration, harassment, restriction on distribution, etc…

    It is a minor issue and mainly matters symbolically. But it is going to give US democracy and freedom of speech reputation a black eye. How does recover once speech is banned because it is causing ‘division in the society’? The problem is that the ruling class simply doesn’t understand what classical liberal values are – they talk a lot, they ‘lawyer’ a lot, but have no understanding of what a free society looks like.

  72. Frankie P says:

    “Do you want to fight me, buddy?
    Here’s me buddy!”

    Frankie P

  73. Vinteuil says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Never even knew Sputnik existed. RT I knew about – but it’s got about the same profile as Al Jazeera in the USA: i.e., next to none.

  74. Vinteuil says:
    @Priss Factor

    “American Pravda?” Isn’t that RKU’s coinage?

  75. Avery says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    {3. Gives Russia a great excuse to kick out dishonest Western journalists (about 75% of them).}

    Interesting perspective.

  76. At least the Russians have a sense of humor about the whole thing. Here’s their new ad campaign for RT UK:

  77. Wally says:

    But you support “that shitty little country”.

  78. jjj says:


    Russian interference in an American election?

    How about Israeli interference in American elections?

    It has become a basic requirement for all presidential candidates to pledge allegiance to Israel in a speech to AIPAC. The level of influence Israel and its proxies, lobbies, and supporters, is off of the charts.

    Not to mention many of those in the US media leadership positions are possibly dual-loyalty, dual-passport holders.

  79. Wally says:
    @Michael Kenny

    Because it’s a fraud that is coming back to haunt the spooks. Pay attention.

  80. Wally says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin

    All that coming from True Believer Anatoly Karlin who himself religiously believes in the laughable, impossible conspiracy by Germans to “kill every Jew they could get their hands on”.

    “One should not ask, how this mass murder was made possible. It was technically possible, because it happened. This has to be the obligatory starting-point for any historical research regarding this topic. We would just like to remind you: There is no debate regarding the existence of the gas chambers, and there can never be one.”

    – endorsed by 34 “reputable historians” and published in the French daily Le Monde on February 21, 1979

  81. @Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften

    The German defense minister is a Hillary wannabe:

    Right after Trump won the election there were cries about Russia from European allies all over the news media just like the one above.

  82. @Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften

    beer is better in Germany. In USA you are apt to get Coors or Bud.

  83. Truth, when spoken, rings true to friend and foe alike. Which explains why Zios have RT and Sputnik in the cross-hairs and why laws exist punishing those who question the holohoax.

  84. @Michael Kenny

    Because, due to it’s size and military capabilities, Russia represents the only conceivable threat to the USMIC which requires an enemy to justify it’s existence.

    • Agree: Talha
  85. @Wade

    Haven’t watched Ryan Dawson in several years. He has certainly matured a lot from what I recall and the questions he poses are deeper and more insightful than in the past.

    At the risk of sounding like a sycophant, what a treasure Phil is! His courage to stand up to the forces arrayed around him and calmly argue his (very patriotic) position is inspiring to watch and read. It gives hope to the rest of us that more people are becoming aware of Israel and its nefarious agents, and the diabolical subversion of this nation, and that this awareness will eventually lead to change as we retrieve control of our ship of state.

    A very well-executed interview by both Ryan and Phil. Thanks for posting it here.

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @Wade
  86. @JoaoAlfaiate

    At one time, Whites and Christians were ideal allies of the United States, and still would be, if not for the fact that Zionist Jews now control the United States.

  87. RT is the only place I have ever seen Paul Craig Roberts talk. What ever happened to RT in the Chicago broadcast market? The public television market (Channel 11 & 20)has all sorts of government news programs including BBC, DW, CNC (China), NHK, French TV, some sort of European TV and even an ETV (Ethiopian TV!) but RT seems to have disappeared. Yes, they may have a Russian government slant, but it was definitely fresh air compared to the rest.

    Would love to see RT back on the public TV. Heck, Channel 20 broadcasts “Democracy Today” at night so why not RT?

  88. geokat62 says:

    Thanks for posting this important video.

    At the very end of the interview, Ryan Dawson urges his viewers to contact TAC and let them know what they think about their firing our very own Dr. Philip Giraldi.

    I think it’s incumbent upon every single Unzer that has been posting comments under Phil’s articles over the years to write an email to Robert W. Merry, TACs editor and express their views.

    Here is my contribution:

    To: [email protected]
    Subject: The Firing of Dr. Philip Giraldi

    Rather than standing behind a true American patriot, The American Cuckservative has followed the example of The National Review and fired Dr. Phillip Giraldi for speaking truth to power. Joe Sobran, a journalist writing for the National Review magazine nearly a quarter of a century earlier, was also fired for writing articles that were deemed too provocative. He, like Dr. Giraldi, was willing to write articles that broke the taboo of publicly criticizing Jews for promoting policies that were damaging to the nation’s interests.

    Just as William F. Buckley caved to the Podhoretzes, it appears that Robert W. Merry may have caved to the Kristols and/or Kagans. Robert Merry will go down in history as a moral coward for firing Dr. Giraldi for writing an article that appeared on another webzine (Unz Review) whose publisher actually stood behind him. It is the height of irony that Patrick Buchanon, one of the three founding members of TAC, had written an article in 1993, Whose War?, that was severely criticized for being antisemitic. To think that in such a short span the journal he helped found would one day fire another American patriot for writing a similar article beggars belief.

    When William F. Buckley was called upon to pass the test, he buckled (pun intended). So, too, Robert Merry has suffered from a “failure of nerve” when his moment of truth had arrived.

    Shame on the both of you!

    Don’t just sit there, start writing.

    And it would be a nice gesture for those of you who do write, to post it here for all to see.

  89. Ìt could be instructive to read an analysis which distinguished between the use of a foreign media presemce in one’s country to influence one’s country’s policies by false news and other forms of indirect pressure and its use to pick up material which is then used in the wider world to damage one’s country.

  90. Hell, I’m not worried about Sputnik News and RT America. I wish the U.S. Shyster Department would require AIPAC to register as a foreign agent of the Zionist entity.

  91. @LondonBob

    You make excellent points about the absence of balance in the Western media. RT journalists may be left-leaning but the organisation still feels obligated to produce a reasonably balanced choice of guests. By contrast Western media policy amounts to suppression of contrary opinion.
    The disappearance of Palestine from British screens is not by chance. The BBC is a case in point. 3 out of 12 members of the BBC Trust are Zionist Jews. Several controllers of BBC TV and radio stations have been Jewish. The number of senior reporters who are Jewish or non-Jewish Zionists ( eg Rory Cellan Jones ) is very much higher than it was than, say, 30 years ago. Objectively, the BBC is much more Jewish and Zionist than 30 years ago.
    Unsurprisingly, news coverage has changed considerably as a result.

  92. The Empire strikes back…

    The reason the US media don’t protest about the campaign against RT and Sputnik is that they are propaganda themselves, and are happy if a threat to their propagandist agenda is eliminated.

    “Contents critical to the United States”, imagine that!!! How does one dare to be critical of the United States?!
    US citizens must be exposed to the less possible opinions contradicting the US narrative consensus about itself.
    Just yesterday I followed a panel on VOA – some “Texas something organisation” – and they whined about information being filtered in the good old days, but not anymore…
    There is a psychological regression in the US towards the attempt to impose that monopoly again, a unique narrative about shiny US indefectibility, and everything else has to be eliminated.
    The intrinsic totalitarianism in the US politico-cultural framework becomes more and more evident.
    It doesn’t even hide itself anymore.

  93. @geokat62

    This is the article that got Joseph Sobran fired from the National Review by his friend William Buckley.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  94. Wade says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    I had never heard of Ryan Dawson until someone posted one of his videos under Giraldi’s “Dancing Israelis” piece (thanks to Ron Unz for featuring this piece under the “Hot!” section) last week.

    Ryan seems very well versed about all things Israel for an average citizen. I don’t know if he writes well but it would be interesting if The Unz Review were to publish an article or two of Ryan’s if for no other reason but to see how well Ryan’s analysis holds up in the comment section.

  95. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Is not all this noise about Rooskies has one and only one goal – to divert attention from the “gorilla” and her “struggle for survival” in the Middle East and in the US Congress?
    ” … a documentary focused on Israeli influence in the U.S., the existence of which has previously been suspected but had yet to be made public. The four-part series, “The Lobby,” dug into the Israeli embassy in London, as well as several other pro-Israel lobby groups, and their campaign to “take down” British Foreign Office Minister Sir Alan Duncan. The investigation led to the resignation of a top Israeli official in London, as well as a high-profile complaint that Al Jazeera had broken broadcasting regulations in the United Kingdom. One of the complaints charged the investigation with anti-Semitism, but the government board ruled that imputing such a motive to a film critical of Israel would be akin to calling a series on gang violence racist. …
    Ofcom received complaints about the series from pro-Israel British activists and a former Israel embassy employee. It dismissed all charges, which included anti-Semitism, bias, unfair editing, and the infringement of privacy. It ruled that as per the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s guidance: “It did not consider that such a critical analysis of the actions of a foreign state constituted anti-Semitism, particularly as the overall focus of the programme was to examine whether the State of Israel was acting in a manner that would be expected of other democratic nations.”

  96. L.K says:

    Yep, one should know better than to feed such a patent & silly zionist troll, but heck no, not our uncle talha!

  97. Sam Shama says:

    [email protected]
    Subject: Phil Giraldi

    Your sacking of Phil Giraldi will be remembered as an act of disrepute. I am a regular reader at Unz and have read your publication on occasion. I am Jewish, and the implication of revealing that information ought to be obvious. Dr Giraldi has been known to write critically about Israel and the neocon nexus rather regularly at Unz. Often, I found his frequent appeal to this topic rather troubling and indeed disagreed with him openly; and angrily, I might add.

    More often, I’ve found his courage and ardour impressive. Never has he censored any of my comments. That you removed a journalist for remaining true to his convictions; a man many, including I, admire as an American patriot – for there are only a few things more quintessentially American than free speech – will compel me to view your journal with an eye, less favourable I regret to inform, than I had hoped for.

    You should ask Phil Giraldi to rejoin if he is so inclined.

    Sam Shama

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • LOL: L.K
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @SolontoCroesus
  98. @Anon

    Kind of disappointed not to see any evidence of Christianity in Giraldi’s home, or at least not in that camera shot.

    Look more carefully.

    The white partially-opened door in the right-rear (behind Giraldi’s left shoulder) is classic “Cross and Bible” style.

  99. @Sam Shama

    maybe I’ll write a letter to American Conservative. Can’t hurt.

    What I DID just do is make a donation to CNI.

    If any of our resident PITAs (you know who you are) pisses me off, I’ll make another donation to CNI.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Anon
  100. iffen says:

    Jesus H!

    The man’s got a dog, what else is required? The man and dog spiritual connection predate Christianity by several thousand millennia.

    Maybe his naïveté in approaching the issue

    He knew exactly what he was doing and why and so did his accomplice Plame.

  101. geokat62 says:

    If any of our resident PITAs (you know who you are) pisses me off, I’ll make another donation to CNI.

    Hey, S2C. After having been called Mr. Gyro, for a second there I thought your PITA remark was directed at me.

    • LOL: SolontoCroesus
  102. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Glad to know of your contribution. I fear I cannot under my own name.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  103. @Anon

    use own name?? You kidddin’ ? Use Sam Shama’s. 😉

  104. geokat62 says:
    @Carroll Price

    Great article. Thanks for sharing.

  105. Sloopyjoe says:

    Since we are on the topic of media censorship/information control, here is a brief clip of Jewish Rapist and Hollywood Media Mogul, Harvey Weinstein, revealing his TRUE identity and loyalties:

    Another on Hollywood (Brad was being a bit PC for career preservation):

    Did I just go there? Yes, I did. Pedophile Island:


    Going back a bit in time with a bit of MGM connection to the recent Las Vegas shootings (MGM BTW made the historical farce conditioning movie, Ten Commandments, starring Charleston Heston):

    Another on the Las Vegas connection:

    One by Project Veritas Pt 1 about the active censorship and bias of the New York Times (better known has the Jew York Times) and Comey connection. I am neither a Trump or Hillary fan, since both are bought and paid for.

    More info on NYT News slant and Comey connection:

    And the connection to YouTube influence/censorship:

    Active Israeli involvement to manipulate/troll Wikipedia and online content:

    Lastly, to come back to the topic:

    I am not saying that ALL Yankistani media is under Jewish influence/ control, but if the shoe fits……

    So, my fellow Yankistanis, can we say “Houston WE have a problem”.

  106. Anonymous [AKA "quest for truth"] says:

    The US government simply doesn’t like the types of questions that Sputnik and RT ask, simple as that. They feel more comfortable with the “amen corner” that is the US mainstream media. Stories are only covered that don’t penetrate too far or ask any questions that nobody wants to answer.

  107. @Sloopyjoe

    Identally, several former Israeli presidents and PMs have been convicted of rape.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Sloopyjoe
  108. gjack says:

    I remember 11 years ago when Colbert wasn’t repulsive, but a true hero. He marched right into the lion’s den — the Washington press corp’s little celebration of itself as political insiders, the president invited to confirm this status — and really hammered not only GW Bush for his misbegotten war but the presstitutes themselves for being suck-ups to power. They were not amused.

    Now Colbert is just another partisan hack, shilling for the empty shell of the Democratic Party. Sad.

  109. Anonymous [AKA "Der Mann mit Eigenschaften"] says:
    @Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften

    “The US wants to use (and is using) the Europeans to threaten Russia. The Europeans don’t want to have American military bases there. It’s the Americans who want to be there.”


  110. @Wade

    I suggest that the neocon faction represents more than just Israel, although Israel is the big dog. The neocons today probably can be traced back to vehemently pro-Israel Jews or “Zionists” who have been infiltrated into USA’s government and Deep State, but that doesn’t mean that the neocon faction doesn’t deal with any other governments.

    To wit: Neocon office-holders or lesser apparatchiks within USA’s government or within the Deep State (controllers of MSM, “defense” contractors, etc.) are foreign agents for more than just Israel but for at least THREE nations: the People’s Republic of China and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, as well as the State of Israel.

    Of these three, Israael and Saudi Arabia (but probably not China) push USA into wars that are not in our national interest, particularly war with IRAN. Although China does gain access into and some influence over USA’s government through the neocons (be they Jews or be they gentiles), that is maintained probably by payola to individual neocons, which has been ongoing since Henry Kissinger (godfather of the neocon faction) made his secret trip to Beijing in 1971.

    China is different in that China has no agenda of violent warfare for USA that might in any way impinge on China’s interests. China has pushed USA, e.g., in the SCS, but only where they appear to know that the US Navy will not become involved. In the case of the SCS, was the US Navy allowed to counter China in conjunction with the sinking of Vietnamese fishing vessels? No, instead the Chinese Navy was invited into RIMPAC, complete with their spy ship! Does this not indicate influence of the neocons on behalf of the PRC?

    Probably the reason that the PRC has allowed Kim Jung-un to develop nukes and ICBMs is that such began to look (to the members of the Standing Committee of the CCP) like a good way – perhaps the only way – to assure that USA would not attack North Korea. That all goes back to the Bush Doctrine — i.e., First Strike doctrine, unilateral withdrawal from ABM treaty, infiltration/subversion/overthrow of targeted governments such as Ukraine, etc.

    Thus, despite the conceivable counter-example of Korea, the PRC has no interest in or agenda that includes pushing or driving USA into outright full-spectrum warfare. PRC is too successful at clandestine forms of warfare to promote full spectrum warfare anywhere in the world in this era of nuclear weapons.

    Sun Tzu says: Supreme victory is when the opponent surrenders of his own accord before there are any actual hostilities. It is best to win without fighting.

  111. @Sloopyjoe

    Thanks, Sloopyjoe, for excellent roundup of links and sources.

    • Replies: @Sloopyjoe
  112. Avery says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    {Identally (incidentally), several former Israeli presidents and PMs have been convicted of rape.}

    At least two Israeli leaders were genuine terrorists*.
    Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir.


    * the label ‘terrorist’ is often deliberately an maliciously mis-applied by invaders and imperialists to genuine freedom fighters. But those two were _terrorists_ in the truest meaning of the word, particularly Begin: his gang deliberately bombed a civilian hotel, and murdered 90+ people.

  113. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The USA and Russia are the countries that have, respectively, the highest and second-highest number of white people living in them.

    This fact alone is why (((they))) so eagerly try to set the two countries against each other.

  114. ”How did the Nazis use propaganda?

    In 1929, Hitler chose Josef Goebbels as his Minister of Propaganda. Goebbels developed extremely successful campaigns using simple slogans and images repeated over and again in order to win public support for the party. The Nazis spent huge sums on newspapers, leaflets and poster campaigns.

    Once the Nazis came to power Goebbels developed the Nazi’s use of propaganda to even greater effect. He orchestrated large political military ‘rallies’ to build support. These were vast, highly organised events with banners and marching bands. Using his own skills of oratory Hitler appealed to the patriotism of the German people.

    Mass media

    Control of the mass media was at the heart of Goebbels plan as he developed the cult of personality around Hitler. The rallies and Hitler’s speeches were broadcast on radio, purchased very cheaply as they were produced by the state.”

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Seamus Padraig
  115. Kissinger and NATO friends:

    CFR Article Calls for Sabotaging Alternative Media!!

    October 11, 2017 / Kurt Nimmo

    Foreign Policy, the house organ of the Council on Foreign Relations, has reposted an article by Daniel Byman, a government insider and senior fellow at the Brookings Institute. Byman’s article, …

    BBC: same Bullshit repeated endlessly by cousin CBC (1.5 billion-year, taxpayer money).
    All posts censored on FB since the remote-controlled pseudo revolutions launched from McGill University in Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya. Hysterically Anti-Russia.


    2017-0116.pdf \$5.23 Billion Arms Sale to Canada September 27, 2017

  116. Sloopyjoe says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    I wouldn’t be surprised if MANY Presidents, world leaders, govt officials, corporate leaders, royalty, and religious leaders around the world are involved in rape and pedophilia. I suspect that many of these may have been visitors to Jewish Epstein’s Fantasy Pedophile Island. Gotta ensure that Illuminati Blackmail for downstream use.

  117. Sloopyjoe says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    You are welcome Grandpa Charlie. I’m just trying to bring more substance to the comment sections instead of the constant overzealous ain’t gotta life multi-posters and troll vs. troll blather.

    I agree with your Sun Tzu quote. No need for China and Russia to do anything different than what they are already doing as time is on their side. The West is determined to sink its own Battleship.

    I would also like to again thank Mr. Unz and Giraldi for bravely providing us commenters with the free speech opportunity in this increasingly less free speech world.

  118. @geokat62

    Name-calling them “cuckservative” is a sure way to make sure of your plea being disregarded, right off the bat.

    • LOL: iffen
    • Replies: @geokat62
  119. @Wade

    Where the article veered off the rails, for many, is not the undeniable and timely statements about influence by the named individuals, and their particular organizations, on behalf of current Likud Israeli policies, which should be debated on the policy demerits, but by ascribing it to “The Jews,” as this tone deaf interviewer tries to justify, thereby casting it as a conspiracy of “The Jews.” Further, advocating that “The Jews” ought to be recused from participating in our government when policies are being developed concerning the middle east comes off as an ethnicity or religious test aimed at excluding them from a discourse where other interested parties would not be.

    When I first read the article, before the brouhaha it’s subsequently generated, I had misgivings and a sense of foreboding about these two areas, that hadn’t been broached before. That has nothing to do with the reaction to Valerie Plame, and is despite agreement with the author’s other statements in his article.

    The damning context of the numerous commentators fully approving not just the article but singling out for special commendation those two areas, seems to confirm its appeal to those who express crude and insulting racial stereotypes they assign to “The Jews.” That they really don’t like “The Jews” is abundantly clear, assigning them blame for ills throughout history. I mean, that is antisemitism, and recognizably so beyond dispute. Maddeningly, the author remains silent and doesn’t express any disagreement. Even Donald Trump disavowed support for those attempting to piggyback their causes he disagreed with to his own, why not Phil Giraldi?

    We can say that eighty years ago, that a wide net of aspersion was cast generally, against “The Jews,” in a particular country, who were then gradually removed from all prominent positions. It ought to be plain that there would be sensitivity among both Jewish people in the United States and most of the public, being aware of which, would lead critics of current Israeli and American policies, if they are indeed not antisemitic, to taking care to not appeal to those expressing the antisemitic sentiments that ended up being supported by a majority of a country’s population and which resulted in the murder of millions. Or else, finding themselves marginalized and become ineffective, ironically undermining the cause of peace.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Disagree: Zumbuddi
  120. geokat62 says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Name-calling them “cuckservative” is a sure way to make sure of your plea being disregarded, right off the bat.

    My plea? Where did you get that idea from? My letter was clearly intended to be a condemnation… Sam’s was a plea.

    P.S. Quiet in the PEAnut gallery!

  121. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hagia Sophia

    Hagia Sophia — that means Holy Wisdom.

    Your comment was Wholly Stupid, cut-and-paste from the Luntz Catechism of holocaust indoctrination.

    You should change your handle to לסחרר מכשיר or
    Push that Meme, baby!” there’s still .001% of marginal value to be wrung from it.

  122. @Fran Macadam

    Giraldi is (I presume) a Catholic, a theology hardly more sympathetic to Jews than Orthodoxy with its history of pogroms, in the larger history of Christian-Jewish relations. I imagine Giraldi likely fails to grasp (is blind to) innate anti-Semitism in his cultural shaping, that would be consistent with Catholic conservatism. Such is often the make-up of people or a frailty of human psychology. Does that make him an anti-Semite per se? I honestly don’t know. He probably honestly believes he is not, regardless of whether he is and to what degree (if that makes sense.) Concerning the numerous anti-Semites who cling to his comments sections like flies attracted to stink, the attraction to these more noisome types is as easy as reading the disqualifying all American Jews, in sweeping language, in regards to Israel; recalling the suspicions placed on all Japanese Americans during WWII. That sort of prejudice never dies, but it shouldn’t be fed either.

    What is a Jew or for that matter, an Irishman? The surname Murphy, born in Manhattan and these days drinking black beer at McSorley’s tavern in The Village does not necessarily an Irishman make. The argued question of dual citizenship with conflicting loyalties is a valid one. But does one disqualify all Murphys in regards to making policy concerning Ireland, whether they have dual citizenship or not? Or does the individual’s patriotism play? These are questions can be intelligently discussed sans mass indictment.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @anarchyst
    , @chris
    , @RobinG
  123. iffen says:


    People intent upon transforming Adolf?
    Politically incorrect talking assholes?
    People imitating trolls always?
    Proud indigenous tan Americans?
    Poorly informed, though arrogant?
    Previously indigestible trash augmented?

  124. iffen says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Irishmen should only be disqualified from government service after 3 beers.

    That sort of prejudice never dies, but it shouldn’t be fed either

    What is more important?

    Avoiding language that engenders a feeding frenzy among neo-Nazis or taking a chance on influencing foreign policy in the direction of fewer ME wars for the US?

  125. anarchyst says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    There are many of us old-line (pre-Vatican II) Catholics who DO NOT subscribe to Catholicism or Christianity being a part of Judaism. WE DO blame the Jews for the Crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ, who got the Romans to do their “dirty work” for them. The hatred for Jesus Christ in the jewish Talmud speaks VOLUMES.
    WE reject the modernism of the current Catholic Church.
    The term “Judeo-Christian” is a misnomer and is patently FALSE.
    Today’s Jews are not “chosen”. Israel is a rogue temporal state. God is not a “real estate agent”…
    Enough said…

    • Agree: polskijoe
    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  126. @iffen

    I think there’s a red herring in your pants, you should stop playing with it.

  127. @anarchyst

    I think you missed some things, like:

    Now, suppose you’ve named a messiah and you’ve been kicked out of the synagogue, not for that, but for radical departure from the norms governing Jewish society’s cohesion; with incoherent demand Greeks, Romans, and their ilk, be allowed in without regard to the rules. Well, that’s essentially what had happened to the followers of the Pharisee turned apostate Saul, also known as Paul. So, the evictees had to take their messiah with them and claim he was the authentic one. Otherwise, not only do you have a messiah who never claimed the title, you also have a messiah nobody prophesied and you’d have to invent something. Granted, this second instance would be little less ludicrous than an angel named Moron appeared to pastor Smith, as he laughed all the way to the bank, so to speak, at his flock’s naiveté, but that’s human nature

    Read more:

    You can believe the scholars or you can believe your religious myth but you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anarchyst
  128. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    RTW you were officious & boring 5 years ago.
    Consistency is your long suit.

  129. @iffen

    not pissy enough to drain the Christmas account.

    try again.
    if you think you’ve got the stuff.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @iffen
  130. iffen says:


    Possible Israeli treasure? America
    Possible Israeli treachery in America
    Pogrom in the afternoon
    Prussian incarnate today already

  131. chris says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Concerning the numerous anti-Semites who cling to his comments sections like flies attracted to stink, the attraction to these more noisome types is as easy as reading the disqualifying all American Jews, in sweeping language, in regards to Israel; recalling the suspicions placed on all Japanese Americans during WWII.

    Never mind the comments, did you even read Phil’s articles ?

    You do recall Phil saying something like that there has been a longstanding policy in the .gov that US policy not be made by ethnic nationals in what concerns their country origin? This being for the obvious reason that they might not be impartial in their decisions. Also, there is the very possible risk that their family and relatives in their US and national communities might be put under pressure to affect US policy. Is it not clear to you that this might be a consideration?

    What would speak in your opinion against the entire Chinese government foreign policy establishment from becoming naturalized US citizen and demanding jobs in the state department to decide US policy toward China? Can you not see that there might be, in this case, some potential conflict of interest ? Or would you consider me to be Sinophobic?

    How about if the Russians, or Syrians, or Iranians or any of the other countries we’re busy entrapping or are actively fighting against were to send send their nationals into our government as US citizen? And if you accept that they not be allowed to dictate US policy, then on what basis do you maintain that we should allow the Israeli partisans, who are instigating some of these conflicts, to do just that ?

    Can you see why it is not strictly necessary to be rabid anti-semite in order to make such an argument ? (Unless you now consider me to also be a rabid anti-Russian or anti-Persian as well.)

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  132. iffen says:

    Pain in the ass!

    Pay up Nazi boy!

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  133. chris says:

    Though I agree with your comment, I certainly don’t wish these outlets be closed. Not only that they’re like oases in which there’s no rabid anti-Russian propaganda, but I consider their demise as a very bad omen for a coming armed conflict! As long as they’re functioning, we can still easily check on the acuteness of the impending conflict.

    On a somewhat unrelated note, I certainly believe it was no coincidence that the US soccer team did not qualify for the 2018 World Cup in Russia. The US team’s participation there and the accompanying media coverage of the games would have been very counter-productive to the hysterical anti-Russian propaganda anticipated to continue into the war.

    The Russian news outlets in English will help provide a much more direct contact to Russia than any western news service will ever do.

  134. @iffen


    How kind of you. You’ve put a spring in this o;d man’s arthritic step.

  135. @chris

    “Never mind the comments” … I don’t think so.

    What jumps out is how you ignore my conclusion, which does NOT ignore the content of the article, and the issue at hand cannot separate the article from the comments:

    But does one disqualify all Murphys in regards to making policy concerning Ireland, whether they have dual citizenship or not? Or does the individual’s patriotism play? These are questions can be intelligently discussed sans mass indictment

    Multiple critics of Phil’s article point to identical conclusion. It begins with his article’s title America’s Jews are Driving America’s Wars, or what can be read as an all-inclusive line of crap.

    Setting aside ‘New Jew’ (Christian) froot-loop-war-drivers like John McCain and Lindsey Graham and their ilk, or about 90 million evangelicals (ok, so they’re not all voting age yet but do you even remember war in relation to George W Bush?) Giraldi’s selective title of mass indictment panders to the worst in our society, as well Giraldi’s language also ignores American Jews opposed to America’s wars, or Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, examples given, and particularly J Street:

    Giraldi’s followup article could have been titled ‘How I Blew It’ instead of “How I Got Fired” but apparently ‘self-criticism’, being a tenet of Marxism, prevented that (irony in case you miss it.)

    Nice try, troglodyte.

    • Replies: @chris
  136. @Hagia Sophia

    Goebbels learned most of what he knew from (((Edward Bernays))), so there’s some poetic justice in the story.

  137. anarchyst says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Heven’t missed anything…
    Jesus Christ was part of an obscure sect, the Essenes, which espoused many Christianlike principles and were HATED by the ruling class–the Pharisees.
    It would do you well to look into these things rather than spouting off half-truths…

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  138. @anarchyst

    laughs … no matter it was the Pharisee Saul, a.k.a. the so-called St Paul and his ‘Christlike’ inventions founded the fascist side of Christianity you’re so in love with …. scholarship establishes Paul’s legacy, written into your scriptures, actually had little to do with Jesus who he invented numerous fantasies about. No less far fetched is Essenes somehow resembled Society of St Pius X and their Nazi adherents. You could change your handle to Heinrich the Chicken Farmer … not that it’d matter concerning those many cowards hiding behind pseudonyms.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Ace
  139. chris says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Oh, I got your point allright, I got the fact that you conceded the point that the question of conflict of interest is a valid point, but you only did that after broad-brushing Phil and everyone else as overt or the even better, inadvertent anti-Semites (like those acusations that Trump is an inadvertent Russian puppet).

    Does that make him an anti-Semite per se? I honestly don’t know. He probably honestly believes he is not, regardless of whether he is and to what degree (if that makes sense.)

    Yeah, it makes perfect sense, Ron; you play the fool, ‘oh my! Phil may not even realize what I Ronald, Thomas, West, so easily discern in his missive!’ Then you concede his point that conflicts of interest do exist, but then you conveniently defer the details of what to do about those conflicts to beyond our present discussion, so as not to have to concede his entire point!

    The argued question of dual citizenship with conflicting loyalties is a valid one. But does one disqualify all Murphys in regards to making policy concerning Ireland, whether they have dual citizenship or not? Or does the individual’s patriotism play?

    Phil is simply suggesting to apply these old rules to everyone!

    In your last response you claim:

    Giraldi’s selective title of mass indictment panders to the worst in our society, as well Giraldi’s language also ignores American Jews opposed to America’s wars, or Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, examples given, and particularly J Street:

    Here also, “the worst in our society” you use a broad indictment, refering presumably to the 300 people reading this article on, the 0.00001%-ers of the US population, in order to pretend you’re personally saving jews from ovens – Ron, you’re a bit too indulgent with your self-esteem !

    Here too, Noam, Glenn and J-Street (some of whose contribution Phil aknowledges in this article) are complete bit-players in the broader picture. The war against Iran will not have been started or been prevented by anything they say or do.

    While there seemed to be a little lull in warring prospects, the main actors, once again itching and burning the midnight oil for war with Iran (and that is the only focus of Phil’s article) are the neocons!

    I don’t know if you ever looked into logic or anything like that, but Phil is NOT saying that ALL Jews are “driving America’s wars” but only that: of the people who are currently driving us to war with Iran, (meaning in positions of power) those people are Jewish, and then he proceeds to name them! Do you understand the difference, Ron ?

    H e l l o, H e l l o, E c h o, E c h o, anyone in there ?

  140. geokat62 says:

    … but Phil is NOT saying that ALL Jews are “driving America’s wars” but only that: of the people who are currently driving us to war with Iran, (meaning in positions of power) those people are Jewish, and then he proceeds to name them!

    Extremely important distinction, chris. Thanks for making it.

  141. @chris

    “Phil is NOT saying that ALL Jews are “driving America’s wars””

    Right. His exact words were “America’s Jews are Driving America’s Wars”

    Of course, you entirely evade the clear point the unqualified language is ‘all inclusive’, careless and irresponsible (at best.) He didn’t qualify his title with ‘some’ American neocon Jews are driving America’s wars or, ‘certain’ American Jews are driving America’s wars or ‘these’ American Jews are driving America’s wars.

    “The war against Iran will not have been started or been prevented by anything they say or do”

    That’s right. The war will have been started by Donald Trump, a man either without the balls to stand down the people surrounding him or simply because he’s a moron.

  142. geokat62 says:

    It is the height of irony that Patrick Buchanon, one of the three founding members of TAC, had written an article in 1993, Whose War?

    Correction: 1993 should be 2003.

    • Replies: @iffen
  143. chris says:

    Right. His exact words were “America’s Jews are Driving America’s Wars”

    Spoiler alert, Ron !!! (you did read beyond the title, right ?)

    Here is what Phil said in his article:

    …much of the agitation to do something about Iran comes from Israel and from American Jews. Indeed, I would opine that most of the fury from Congress re Iran comes from the same source…

    The AIPAC lies are then picked up and replayed by an obliging media, where nearly every “expert” who speaks about the Middle East on television and radio or who is interviewed for newspaper stories is Jewish.

    One might also add that neocons … Recall for a moment Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, and Scooter Libby. Yes, all Jewish and all conduits for the false information that led to a war that has spread and effectively destroyed much of the Middle East. Except for Israel, of course. Philip Zelikow, also Jewish, in a moment of candor, admitted that the Iraq War, in his opinion, was fought for Israel.

    Phil’s argument throughout the article (after the title) is very specific, he speaks of individuals !

    Can you see that there is a certain preponderance of a certain foreign nationals in this group, combined with a glaring lack of motive to pursue such a war from the rest of the US ?

    Even if you don’t agree with his point, is it really impossible for you to understand how anyone might come to such a conclusion as Phil does ?

  144. RobinG says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    This is rich! RTW emerges form the sweat lodge to tell us that not only must any white male acknowledge his historic collective guilt, if he’s unfortunate enough to have entered this world as a Catholic, better assume the evil genesis of his every warped thoughts.

    The question of some, any or all Jews has been discussed ad nauseam, in places like Mondoweiss for instance. With scant dissent, it’s admitted that Jews -as a body- if only for fear of losing their friends and connections, do not protest, but acquiesce to the pro-Israel militarism of their political elite. Even the prominent and moderate (from the Jewish perspective) J-Street is just a pimple on the butt of the Zionist gorilla.

    • Agree: chris
  145. iffen says:

    Correction by hoi poi: should be Buchanan.

  146. anarchyst says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Looks like I hit a nerve of a hasbara…GOOD! SSPX and its adherents are a part of the restoration and cleansing of the Catholic Church from evil jewish influences. There is nothing “judeo” about TRUE Catholicism…

  147. Ace says:

    ** admittedly biased television news reporting provided by Fox News **

    Who knew?

  148. Ace says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    ** Society of St Pius X and their Nazi adherents **

    They’re everywhere. Goodness gracious.

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