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The twenty-first century, at least up until this point, might well be described as the age of the terrorist. Even though most Americans and Europeans rank terrorism as low among their concerns, the repercussions when a terrorist attack does take place are greatly magnified by the sheer horror associated with the mass killing of innocent people going about their daily lives.

There are a couple of annual reports that look at terrorism as a global phenomenon. The best known is the U.S. State Department’s Annual Country Reports on Terrorism that comes out in the Summer and covers the previous year. It is mandated by Congress and is largely based on Embassy and intelligence community sources.

The Country Reports purports to be an objective review of the year’s terrorist incidents as well as an overview of some of the players to include a discussion of “violent extremism” issues region by region and country by country. It is a valuable resource which provides considerable information on the various militant groups and the crimes attributed to them as well as their involvement globally. But it is nevertheless a government document. The Obama Administration definitely has had a point of view on what constitutes terrorism and how to deal with it based on how the White House would like to frame things from a political perspective. The section on Afghanistan, for example, implicitly makes a case for a more robust American role in the conflict engulfing that country.

I often find that how something is described or even ignored just as important as what is revealed. There is, for example, a section of the report identifying State Sponsors of Terrorism, a status that brings with it various sanctions. It would be difficult to find a section that is by definition more hypocritical as many would certainly consider Washington the leading practitioner of state sponsored terror with its claimed authority to go after militant targets anywhere at any time. The 2015 report names only Iran, Syria and Sudan as state sponsors even though Damascus and Tehran are more often than not on Washington’s side, heavily engaged in fighting ISIS, which the U.S. government in its own reporting clearly identifies as international enemy #1. Regarding Sudan, the report states that it is no longer in the supporting radicalism business while earlier annual reports actually commended it for helping international efforts against terrorists yet it remains on the list, apparently because several individuals close to the White House do not like its government very much and have written scholarly articles attacking its president.

The numbers in the Country Reports tell us something about the impact of terrorism. Deaths attributed to people who might be regarded as terrorists is certainly a huge global problem with the State Department report recording nearly 12,000 terrorist attacks producing 28,000 deaths worldwide in 2015. But the mayhem is very much concentrated in countries that are gripped by what might reasonably be termed civil war, to include Syria, Iraq, and Somalia. Several other countries with high levels of “terror” deaths, to include Nigeria and Pakistan, are engaged in bloody regional conflicts over economic issues fueled by anti-central government sentiment, not exactly civil war but something close to it.

American victims are a lot harder to find. The State Department report, which is only about acts of terrorism overseas, identifies 19 American citizens as victims of terror for the year 2015. Eight of the deaths were in Afghanistan, one in Syria and one in Somalia, all of which can be regarded as war zones. Three were in Jerusalem and on the Israeli occupied West Bank, a region also suffering from endemic violence, killing two American visitors plus a settler who held dual Israeli-U.S. citizenship.

Twenty-two more Americans were injured in terrorist incidents worldwide in 2015 and there were no reported kidnappings during the year. Though I in no way wish to minimize the killing of anyone in a criminal act, which terrorism is, the death and injury toll hardly constitutes a major international threat and I am sure that many more Americans are killed every year “overseas” in traffic accidents while vacationing. The report clearly suggests that international terrorism is an enemy that is largely ineffective at least in terms of being able to do direct damage to the United States, its citizens or its other interests.

A second terrorism report is prepared by the highly reputable Institute for Economics and Peace, which is based in Australia. It’s Global Terrorism Index, currently in its fourth edition, has just come out and it differs from the State Department report in that while it covers 2015 in some detail it is also progressive, meaning that it incorporates new information on terrorist activity into observations derived from reporting that covers 16 years, since 2000. Its overview information itself derives from a large terrorism data base, consisting currently of records relating to 150,000 incidents, maintained at the University of Maryland. As a result, the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) is sometimes more useful than the State Department if one is seeking to identify long term trends.

One might conclude that what we call terrorism is quite simply warfare by other means and it might not even be useful to try to define it in a distinctive fashion. The GTI report basically confirms the State Department Country Reports on numbers and places where terrorist attacks take place, adding that more than 93% of all reported incidents occur in countries that are already internally extremely repressive or unstable while more than 90% take place in countries engaged in external violent conflicts. Fewer than .5% of terror attacks are in countries that have neither internal or external issues. The most afflicted countries are Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Syria. Three out of the five have experienced direct U.S. military interventions while Pakistan has been under intense pressure from Washington to “do something.” In other words, terrorism deaths occur most often in places where a state of acute internal repression or even civil or external war exist and the role of the U.S. military as an accelerant for instability should be regarded as a given.

And then there is the global U.S. led war on terror, which costs upwards of hundreds of billions of dollars a year and has not actually eliminated any terrorist group while serving as a recruiting poster for assorted radical wannabes. It has also killed, by a very conservative estimate, 1.3 million people. Relying on overwhelming conventional military force and air power, the U.S. can always prevail either on the battlefield or against a radical group that seeks to hold on to territory that it is occupying, but unless Washington is prepared to remain indefinitely it cannot change the dynamic in a country or region that is unstable. Indeed, armed intervention itself followed by staying in place to nation build might actually be counterproductive if one looks at the examples of Afghanistan and Iraq as a U.S. presence frequently inhibits a possible political settlement. When the foreign security presence departs, sooner or later a dissident group will inevitably appear to fill the void. Based on the State Department and GTI reports one has to question a counter-terrorism strategy that has cost cumulatively trillions of dollars to combat an enemy that only rarely can project its power and that normally is only dangerous in the short term and in the immediate area in which it operates.

I have been reading various reports on terrorism for many years now and my firm impression is that the international terrorist threat, as poorly defined as it is, has actually been receding as more and more governments actively seek to eliminate militants in their midst even as fewer states are willing and able to provide them with either assistance or a safe haven. ISIS, the du jour terrorist threat, sought to establish a new territorial state, a Caliphate, but is currently facing complete defeat in Libya, Syria and Iraq. Terrorism is a “dying” industry in every sense of the word and while the U.S. government should take every reasonable step to protect American citizens the key word must be “reasonable.” A global anti-terror Crusade led by the United States is not a reasonable response, nor is it necessary as terrorist groups always eventually fade away due to their own internal contradictions and the intense hostility of the host country and neighbors. It is time to declare the war on terror finished, move on, and bring the troops home.

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  1. Isn’t that remarkable–in October Ash Carter predicted Russia would soon suffer terrorist reprisals for bombing in Syria!

    With the killing of the Russian ambassador that makes Señor Carter look like–ah-ah-ah–a prophet?–is that the right word, you think?

  2. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Okay, I agree. I suspect everyone will agree, except for a few screaming, irascible Israel-firsters.

    I predict a low comment count. Hmmm….87.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  3. I find it interesting that the author neglected to mention Europe as that section of the world has actually experienced an upsurge in terrorism over the past two years.

    • Replies: @dearieme
  4. Dumbo says:

    “but is currently facing complete defeat in Libya, Syria and Iraq.”

    By the Russians. Americans were/are supporting the terrorists.

    “A global anti-terror Crusade led by the United States is not”

    There is no anti-terror Crusade by the US. The US is actively supporting Islamic terrorism and Muslim immigration wherever they can (Kosovo, Iraq, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Western Europe, etc). Divide et impera.

    • Agree: Che Guava, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @ThereisaGod
  5. neutral says:

    Anyone know what that naked sword wielding woman is supposed to represent ?

  6. …nor is it necessary as terrorist groups always eventually fade away due to their own internal contradictions and the intense hostility of the host country and neighbors.

    I keep hoping that’s what’ll happen to the neocons and the violent Zionistas.

  7. KenH says:

    America supports the terrorist group MEK against Iran and have for more than two decades. This fact is always missing from mainstream narratives when speaking of the eternally wicked and terrorist supporting Iranians. Also, when the U.S. supports terror groups they magically become “freedom fighters” but when they stop furthering our interests they become terrorists once again.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  8. I gag and cringe every time I hear some doofus ‘Merkin yapping about fighting terrorism because this has been the land of terrorism from the beginning, (even before there was a USA), and George Washington himself was a terrorist. Unconditional surrender has been a consistent policy of the war dogs as well. Georgie boy, the traitor (he was a Brit officer) was known to the Iroquois as Conotocarious or Village Destroyer.

    Orders of George Washington to General John Sullivan, at Head-Quarters May 31, 1779

    But you will not by any means listen to any overture of peace before the total ruinment of their settlements is effected. Our future security will be in their inability to injure us and in the terror with which the severity of the chastisement they receive will inspire them.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Anonymous
  9. radu says:

    Kinda goes with the whole tenor of the article. More fake stories “enhanced” by fake gratuitous naked women.

    Message: dontcha worry your pretty head over brutalist islam!

    • Replies: @woodNfish
  10. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The author, being an intelligence officer, should know that ISIS is a terrorist group only to the Syrian nation. It is armed, supported, and directed by the US and its allies including Israel to topple the Assad government. All this talk about the US bombing ISIS over the past four years is nonsense. All pronouncements by US agencies about the spread of terrorism are self serving propaganda ploys designed to protect American interventionism.

  11. @Anonymous

    Israel loves and depends on the chaos. It all works for them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Guernica 2.0

  13. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Israel loves and depends on the chaos. It all works for them.

    Oh, doesn’t it just?

  14. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Anyone know what that naked sword wielding woman is supposed to represent ?

    Ann Coulter.

  15. ISIS, the du jour terrorist threat, sought to establish a new territorial state, a Caliphate, but is currently facing complete defeat in Libya, Syria and Iraq. Terrorism is a “dying” industry in every sense of the word…..

    If “terrorism” is dying it’s because Imperial Washington (preeminent state sponsor of terrorism) is itself in steep decline.

  16. Che Guava says:

    Ha, ha.

    Do any of them ever further your interests?

    Have any ever done so?

    For sure, elements of the US state are ever-ready to support them, but it only seems to have worked once, in a limited way, to evict the Sandinistas from government, and at great cost to the people there.

    The other that is claimed at times was the US-Paki-Saudi campaign to rip a relatively cilivised Afghanistan to shreds.

    How’s that working out? Success story?

    The traitors in the USSR would have destroyed the state with or without the attempted defense of Afghanistan, so the argument that it was the cause of the fall does not hold up.

    There is a great article on the Saker’s site now, about the depredations under Yeltsin, with a focus on Chubais.

    It is a good article, extensive, recommended to other Unzers, I had read most points before, but it is a great summary.

    I would be more interested to see a detailed history of the betrayals, US and Israeli interference, and so on, from the death of Andropov until Yeltsin’s successful coup.

    Would guess that you know a little about it Mr. Giraldi, but if you do, can’t say anything, I understand honour and keeping one’s word.

    I asked the Saker, but no reply.

    Guess that a good account of it is yet to be written, even in Russian.

    As for the US achieving any interests by supporting terrorists, apart from fucking up the mid-East on behalf of its (the USA’s) Zionist colonial masters, I would like to see the name of one post-Nicaragua (not that I agree with the action there, but can understand the motivation and objectives, and it wasn’t total failure on those terms) situation where US support for terrorism has done any good to the US or anywhere else (except to Israeli terrorists on the West Bank).

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  17. MarkinLA says:
    @Che Guava

    For sure, elements of the US state are ever-ready to support them, but it only seems to have worked once, in a limited way, to evict the Sandinistas from government, and at great cost to the people there.

    At great cost to the people here. Reagan’s refugees became our current chain migration from central America as well as MS-13 and the 18th Street Gang.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  18. REDPILLED says:

    This always bogus “war” has been a total success as the eternal profit-making scam for the war-profiteering corporations and their political servants dependent on corporate assistance/welfare from the war profiteers.

    Spreading subcontractors for the war-profiteering Imperial War Machine throughout the U.S. and in other nations such as the U.K. has made it nearly impossible to counter this violent, bloody industry of war, assassination, famine (see Yemen) and destruction. The violent sociopaths have been in control long before Denier-in-Chief Trump.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  19. Che Guava says:

    Thanks Mark.

    I am not a US person, but I will be looking into those words.Would guess it is an example of blowback?


    If no contact before,

    Merry Christmas to you.

    For me tonight, (-.-)Zzz・・・・


    FYI my article was discussed in some detail on today’s Ron Paul Liberty report, which added some additional material and considered the lying and hypocrisy of the US government on the terrorism issue

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  21. @jacques sheete

    And most tribes would have done WHAT to our settlers if we hadn’t had superior force and willingness to use it? Please.

    I’ve spent time in Indian country, spoken with tribal members and leaders, and know the history of some western tribes. Typically they were busily raiding, scalping, and killing each other before we arrived and when we weren’t directly present.

    Oh the poor noble Indians.

    If Anglo / European settlers had lost, there wouldn’t be any “reservations” and “welfare” and “affirmative action” jobs / university spots for white people. The men would have been mostly killed, the women raped, and some women and children “absorbed” involuntarily into the tribe.

  22. Mark Green says: • Website

    Terrorism incidents are often just pin-pricks of resistance. They create tension and provide headlines. This comes in very handy.

    Terrorism does not threaten Zio-Washington or the New World Order. The whole terrorism meme functions in a way that is reminiscent of how the manipulative media responds to the sighting of a swastika in some alleyway.

    Incredibly, these puny acts of rebellion empower the Zionist establishment. It’s fodder for their narrative. Tyrants benefit by phantom threats committed by sub-human boogeymen. But this is theater. Jewish theater.

    Who/what is really behind the greatest number of mass political killings in our generation? It is not ISIS.

    When will the Western world take seriously the body-count of Anglo-Zionist aggression?

    And if that day ever comes, will those responsible be held accountable?

    These questions are seldom posed.

    In no small way, Israel manages today’s Evil Empire. It’s campaign is diversified, multi-faceted, and decentralized. It is incredibly cohesive, orderly and effective. The Zionist project is unique. Zionism is pan-national. It wears many masks. And it is extremely militant. Zionist influence is without peer.

    Its major wings operate under various pseudonyms, false flags, weaponized government departments, dominant media, charities, lobbies, religious institutions and NGOs in Washington, London, Brussels, Hollywood, NY/WallST., Paris and beyond. Virtually all dominant Western communications fall under its supervision.

    The Zionist cult remains a major enabler and stimulant of chaos, murder and mayhem in Iraq, Libya, Palestine and Syria. But its ubiquitous tentacles go far beyond those blistering hot spots. Washington is its chief proxy and terrorism it’s most conspicuous by-product. The cancer of pan-Zionism will spread as Israel’s political mission of conquest and subjugation rolls forward. Global restrictions on speech and communication are rapidly being enumerated in order to eliminate resistance to this supremacist political juggernaut.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Jake P.
  23. woodNfish says:

    I’m fine with the gratuitous naked women.

  24. woodNfish says:

    The Piquot tribe was a constant threat to the original colonists, raiding and killing settlers and even eating them and wearing their skins. The colonists put together a militia and set out to exterminate the entire tribe and supposedly did so, but today the exterminated Piquot’s own the Foxwoods Casino. For a while if you had any Piquot blood you have basically won the lottery, but bad business practices have changed that. Even so, it is a total scam that these phony Indians even have a tribe.

    The lie of the “Noble Savage” has always been a lie and nothing more.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @joe webb
  25. @Anonymous

    If it is her, compliments to her plastic surgeon.
    But I thought she looked more like Liberty ( from Delacroix’s ” Liberty leading the People ” ). Any suggestions as to why she’s nude though.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  26. @Philip Giraldi

    Many of us old Cold Warriors noted that a “War on Terror” could never be won and so would perpetuate the Military-Industrial complex beyond any hope of ending it. How would you know if you won such a “war?”

  27. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Some people only blame Muslims for the terror.

    Some people only blame the West for not being welcoming enough, thus alienating Muslims.

    Some people only blame the West for invading the Muslim world and creating all the havoc that radicalized Muslims.

    But sensible people blame both the Invade and the Invite. They see how the two are intricately linked. The West invades and destroys Muslim world and then it invites tons of angry Muslims to settle in the West.

    Btw, it is a canard that Muslims in the West turn to radicalism because of white ‘racism’ or ‘xenophobia’. Their main reason for turning to Islamic radicalism is the disgust they feel toward feminism, philosemitism, homomania, libtard decadence, and cultural degeneracy that both excites and sickens them.

    It is the Proggy elements of the West that most trigger and radicalize Muslims, but the Progs play a sleight-of-hand trick whereby we are told that Muslims have been radicalized by ‘Islamophobia’.

    But the angriest Muslims are to be found in overwhelmingly Globalist cities where the culture is utterly rancid, decadent, hedonistic, and trashy, indeed all-too-welcoming of Muslims as a useful minority group against ‘Islamophobia’ and ‘white racism’. But it seems to me that Muslims who are encouraged by the Libs hate the Libs with passion. Indeed, most Muslim attacks have been against cosmo-Lib communities.

  28. @neutral

    That’s Justice or Themis, the Goddess of justice, who, when prostituted and stripped of her modesty, drops her blindfold and scales and rampages with raised sword (it usually points downwards). In the ensuing chaos anyone can be hurt by Nemesis’ awesome power–and that with no rhyme or reason. So hunker down. Or find a way to appease her wrath.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @RobinG
  29. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Any suggestions as to why she’s nude though.


    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
  30. @anonymous

    Yes, that is indeed a sad story. It would be truly a very sad individual to take any pleasure from the misfortune of Russians purely out of a hatred of Russia.

    Meanwhile, back in the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave”, an entire city, Flint MI, has been poisoned by lead due to corruption and cost-cutting. Think of the children and the health problems they face. Is there any pride in belonging to any nation that would permit this?

    This USA Vs Russia mentality only serves those who would oppress the peoples of both nations and in fact all nations. Sad indeed that the weak-minded chest-thumpers buy into it.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Greasy William
  31. @RadicalCenter

    And most tribes would have done WHAT to our settlers if we hadn’t had superior force and willingness to use it? Please.

    That’s beside the point.

    Oh the poor noble Indians.

    Straw man argument.

    If Anglo / European settlers had lost, there wouldn’t be any “reservations”

    You mean concentration camps where previously independent people were generously allowed to starve to death?

    I made the claim that there has been terrorism since before the place was the USA. You can whine and protest all you want, but that doesn’t change the facts.

    Please note that your simple minded argument that, ” Typically they were busily raiding, scalping, and killing each other before we arrived and when we weren’t directly present,” doesn’t in any way constitute a justification for “our” own terrorism. Aren’t we, the great white saviors supposed to be above all of that?

  32. @woodNfish

    The lie of the “Noble Savage” has always been a lie and nothing more.

    As has the myth of the white guy being the noble savior with all the answers for everyone else.

    Another huge myth is that the US is some kind of utopia…“Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave,” and similar rot.

  33. joe webb says:

    Melville’s (Moby Dick ) boat was named the Pequot. Since Melville was not liberal and hated the screwy abolitionists and transcendentalists, like Hawthorne, the name Pequot must resonate with the crimes of the savage injuns, not some kind of karma for white folks.


    • Replies: @Anonymous
  34. joe webb says:

    ” One might conclude that what we call terrorism is quite simply warfare by other means and it might not even be useful to try to define it in a distinctive fashion.”

    this is pretty strange. Civilians are spared in warfare, generally, at least in recent law , etc.

    To conclude along with the author that you might as well let them be killed too….is crackpot, but Girard is such.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @E. A. Costa
  35. dearieme says:
    @John Smith

    Europe? You must be referring to the terrorism of the MMM (Merkel’s Methodist Militia).

  36. @Anonymous

    “Any suggestions as to why she’s nude though.”

    Looks like a basic Poser 3D graphics figure from one of the early free versions of the program. Comes nude. “Clothes” can be textured on or made from mesh and manipulated separately in later versions–more work. It can also be animated-much more work.

    So the answer is–cheap graphics.

    Zizek on a bender (when isn’t he?) could probably write three volumes of popular art criticism on the subject but what was just said above is already more than it is worth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  37. Art says:

    A global anti-terror Crusade led by the United States is not a reasonable response, nor is it necessary as terrorist groups always eventually fade away due to their own internal contradictions and the intense hostility of the host country and neighbors. It is time to declare the war on terror finished, move on, and bring the troops home.

    This means support Assad – then go home — end of story!

  38. @joe webb

    Joe, it may have been true once upon a time that armies faced each other in battle away from civilian populations but only when it suited the armies involved. Civilians have always suffered as a result of war and only the scale of the suffering has changed.

  39. @joe webb

    “Civilians are spared in warfare, generally, at least in recent law”

    Not by the British, beginning, say, in the Boer War. Churchill then extended it to using poison gas and terror bombing (he even used the word “terror”) against Kurdish villages in Mesopotamia in the 1920’s, then really got going with firebombing and such in World War II.

    The US, following their barbarian “founding stock”, never had a problem with massacring off-white Injuns or Filipino civilians and really got going abroad with firebombing, atomic bombs, etc. against Japan on a scale at least as grand as the Japanese in China.

    The non-atomic pièce de résistance of this period was the US-led UN war against North Korea where the firebombing was more intense than the firebombing and nuclear bombs on Japan combined.

    The US picked up the Filipino thread again in Vietnam (free fire zones) and the bombing thread again in the war against Yugoslavia, which interestingly, was directed MAINLY against Serbian civilians as a deliberate tactic.

    Incidentally with Serbia and Iraq the US also resumed atomic warfare with the use of depleted uranium munitions.

  40. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Spencer’s family is ‘Palestinianized’.

    Collective punishment for the ‘sins’ of individual.

    Guilty by Relation.

    • Replies: @Talha
  41. New York Daily News celebrates the assassination of the Russian ambassador:

    Señor Obama golfs:

    On the former, will Israel have to be added to the candidates? On the latter, the way Señor Obama phrased his description of the assassination (“appears to be a terrorist attack”) is suspicious. But even more suspicious is that Señor Obama was suddenly out “hacking” on the Golf Course.

    Through ISIS(real or false flag) all roads lead to Ash Carter, eh?

    No doubt the Russians have most of the connections–one legislator mentioned that NATO was involved.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  42. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    These think tanks. Too partisan.

  43. “The gallery where the shooting occurred is opposite the US embassy. A gun was fired in front of the embassy overnight and the United States closed its three missions in Turkey on Tuesday.”


  44. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    As far as I know there have been no casualties in Flint. Furthermore it was a mistake , a rather stupid mistake in regards to Flint. Actually I have been to the Flint River years ago and was shocked when they announced the initial plan to pump drinking water from the rather shallow ,narrow, muddy and polluted river.

    Russians desperate to drink perfume or lotion in lieu of cheap vodka is nothing new. It does illustrate the sheer desperation of some lives in Russia. I take no pleasure from this . Was merely presenting it as a counter point to the Russian Fanbois.

  45. Whoever says:

    You’re married to a Filipina, aren’t you? Her people got the same treatment as “the poor noble Indians.” And they fought back with their own bitter cruelty, for all the good it did them.
    May I direct your attention to Secretary of War Elihu Root’s report on “Marked Severities in the prosecution of the Philippines War.”
    Some extracts:

    The First Reports of Cruelty
    As soon as the mails from the army reached this country after the beginning of hostilities, the newspapers began to publish statements from soldiers and officers that the war against the Filipinos was being prosecuted with great barbarity; and it became apparent that there was at least a considerable element in the army who despised the native inhabitants, and were willing to kill prisoners, to burn villages, and to rob and murder non-combatants upon little or no provocation.
    Thus L. F. Adams, of Ozark, Mo., a soldier in the Washington regiment, describing the scene after the battle of February 4-5, 1899, said:
    “In the path of the Washington Regiment and Battery D of the Sixth Artillery there were 1,008 dead niggers, and a great many wounded. We burned all their houses. I don’t know how many men, women, and children the Tennessee boys did kill. They would not take any prisoners.”
    Howard McFarland, sergeant, Company B, Forty-third Infantry, wrote to the Fairfield Journal of Maine:
    “I am now stationed in a small town in charge of twenty-five men, and have a territory of twenty miles to patrol…. At the best, this is a very rich country; and we want it. My way of getting it would be to put a regiment into a skirmish line, and blow every nigger into a nigger heaven. On Thursday, March 29, eighteen of my company killed seventy-five nigger bolomen and ten of the nigger gunners…. When we find one that is not dead, we have bayonets.”

    You should consider that during the time of the Philippine Insurrection, or the Indian wars, for that matter, you would have been considered a “squaw man,” and held in contempt, and your “‘breed” children would have been considered the lowest of the low. You would not have been allowed to live among whites and would have had to seek shelter with your wife’s people.
    So you might want to consider laying off the Indian bashing.

    I’ve spent time in Indian country, spoken with tribal members and leaders, and know the history of some western tribes.

    You’re another George Bird Grinnell and George Hyde rolled into one, no doubt.

  46. Lorax says:

    All idealism is hollow; there is no “human race”.
    History is but the struggle of one human group for supremacy
    over others. Genocidal warfare is endemic.
    There never will be a socialist workers paradise.
    Humans are mostly wired for nepotistic plundering by their DNA.
    Sixties dreaming has been dashed. By cold hard reality.
    And there have been occasional “random acts of kindness.”
    ( Born in the USA-1942 )

  47. Avery says:

    {Russians desperate to drink perfume or lotion in lieu of cheap vodka is nothing new. It does illustrate the sheer desperation of some lives in Russia. I take no pleasure from this . Was merely presenting it as a counter point to the Russian Fanbois.}

    ” I take no pleasure from this .”.
    Sure you do.

    Now, see if you can take pleasure in this, you anti-Christian, anti-American, NeoNazi Fanboy:

    [Deaths from synthetic opioids up 72%, CDC says]

    {(CNN)Death rates from synthetic opioids, including fentanyl, increased 72.2% from 2014 to 2015, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday. The new report confirms the dramatic increase in opioid overdoses that first responders have been seeing as they respond to overdose calls.}
    {The new report says the latest available data found that 33,091 people died from opioid overdoses in 2015. That number combines prescription and illegal forms of the painkiller that can also send users into a state of euphoria. They account for 63% of the 52,000 deaths from any type of drug overdose in 2015, up from 2014, when 61% of fatal overdoses were due to opioids.}

    Let’s hear you chortle and crow about the tragic deaths in Russia now, Fanboy.
    Apparently _some_ Americans desperate to inject themselves with drugs is nothing new.
    It does illustrate the sheer desperation of _some_ lives in America.
    Donnit? Fanboy.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @joe webb

    Melville’s (Moby Dick ) boat was named the Pequot.

    Mistakes that can be avoided through the most trivial attention to detail reveal much about the writer.

    Pequod. The ship’s name in Moby Dick was “Pequod”.

    The Pequot are an Amerind tribe.

    Yes, there is a literary implication. Write 1200 words on it; have in on my desk Wednesday morning, 9AM sharp.

  49. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @E. A. Costa

    “Any suggestions as to why she’s nude though.”

    Looks like a basic Poser 3D graphics figure from one of the early free versions of the program. Comes nude.

    So the pore little broad is nekkid because artists are lazy? That’s “art” all over again, ain’t it just?

  50. @anonymous

    My reply to you did not suggest that you did take any pleasure at the misery of some unfortunate Russians, only that it would be a sad individual that did. Your defensive response and use of the term Russian Fanbois however, suggests that sad individual is indeed an apt description of you.

  51. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Seems I hit a nerve ,Avery. Calm down sir, there was no anti-Christian sentiment implied or intended . Why do you suppose the bath lotion drinkers were Christians , anyhow ?
    Another uniquely Russian drug phenomenon . Krokodil.

    Russia ranks #1 in the world for alcohol abuse .
    Russsia ranks #2 in the world for opiod abuse . (Afghanistan is #1, America #27).
    Just a little more perspective for you , fanboi.

    • Replies: @Avery
  52. geokat62 says:

    OT, but I had to share a headline you don’t see everyday:

    Hell just froze over: the New York Times runs an article saying Zionism is racist

    A key excerpt:

    The piece will greatly increase the pressure on liberal Zionists to choose one idea or the other, and to stop denying the existence of apartheid.

    Boehm says white nationalist Richard Spencer helped to blow up the liberal Zionist hypocrisy in his famous encounter with a Texas rabbi when he said he admires Israel for its ethnic purity and the rabbi had nothing to say. Some of Boehm’s hammer blows:

    by denying liberal principles, Zionism immediately becomes continuous with — rather than contradictory to — the anti-Semitic politics of the sort promoted by the alt-right…

    insofar as Israel is concerned, every liberal Zionist has not just tolerated the denial of this minimum liberal standard, but avowed this denial as core to their innermost convictions. Whereas liberalism depends on the idea that states must remain neutral on matters of religion and race, Zionism consists in the idea that the State of Israel is not Israeli, but Jewish. As such, the country belongs first and foremost not to its citizens, but to the Jewish people — a group that’s defined by ethnic affiliation or religious conversion…

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @RobinG
  53. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Of course no such conundrum for a liberal Muslim. Nor any problem with the dozens of Islamic states which adhere to a true apartheid system , complete with the death penalty for the crime of converting from Islam to Christianity.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  54. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Drop the ideological talking points

    Listen and learn

  55. Avery says:

    I don’t know any poster here who claims Russia is a paradise.
    Russians having problems is nothing new.
    Russians abusing alcohol is nothing new either.
    With all the Hell their people have gone through, it is no surprise.

    The pro-Russia arguments here @UNZ are to the effect that there is nothing in it for the American people, American taxpayer to pick a fight with Russia and meddle in Russia’s periphery and her internal affairs.
    Those who are advocating for a fight are anti-American warmongers, advocating expending American blood and treasure to advance some agenda or other to the benefit of foreign interests. No benefit to America, meaning American taxpayers. The average John and Jane Doe.

    You, being a typical anti-American warmonger – judging from your post – seems to have a problem with the concept of no-war with Russia.
    And it hit a nerve with lots of American voters, homes.
    In every debate Trump was the only one who repeatedly pronounced, despite being attacked by vile MSM shills, that US has no fight with Russia, and that US and Russia are natural allies against worldwide Islamic terror.
    That Russia is doing a good job killing ISIS terrorists in Syria, and that US has no business helping so-called ‘moderates’ there.
    Remember, fanboy?
    Warmongers shilling for foreign interests lost.
    ‘America-first’ won.

    Now then.
    America is a great country. Very wealthy. Top of the world.
    So what is the excuse for 33,091 Americans to have died from opioid overdoses in 2015, fanboy?
    What is the excuse for 52,000 deaths from all sources of drug overdose?
    What is the excuse for having the most number incarcerated in the world?
    What is the excuse for having one of the worst (#5 worst) infant mortality rates in OECD counties?
    (#1 worst being Turkey. #34 the best being Luxenbourg).

    Just a little more perspective for you too, fanboy.

  56. @NoseytheDuke

    Meanwhile, back in the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave”, an entire city, Flint MI, has been poisoned by lead due to corruption and cost-cutting. Think of the children and the health problems they face. Is there any pride in belonging to any nation that would permit this?

    It happened to blacks, not real Americans. Who cares?

  57. Rurik says:

    OT alert



    read this letter, especially at the end!

    I’m sure Mr. Giraldi won’t mind my posting it here, as he has had an interest in these issues as well.

    this is a game changer. The Mayor was right there on 9/11, and now he’s saying we were lied to, and he’s almost naming names.


    • Replies: @Rurik
  58. RobinG says:

    The first line of your MW piece: “Trump’s election is having fascinating consequences.” Indeed.

    Jane Eisner. Editor of the Forward, wrote on Monday,
    When It Comes to New Israel Envoy David Friedman, Bibi Should Be Careful What He Wishes For
    “Friedman’s appointment could upend the balancing act that Netanyahu has perfected over the years, in so many spheres. If his appointment is approved, Friedman’s vocal and offensive disdain for liberal Jews could tip the scales on issues of religious and political pluralism; it could damage Netanyahu’s attempts to proclaim that he represents all the Jewish people; and it could especially threaten the already frayed relations between this Israeli government and the growing number of American Jews who feel alienated from or rejected by it.”

    One correspondent wrote,
    Trump is making it very difficult for liberal Zionists, like Eisner, to maintain their illusions about the source of their identity – the Jewish state and its being liberal and a democracy. And he is making it impossible for middle America not to notice the educated liberal [Jew’s] double standards, which will make it easier for them to be ridiculed.

    “American liberal Goys will be finding it a lot harder to remain quiet while their liberal Jewish friends pontificate on the glories of Zionism. And by the way, there are already substantial numbers of American Jews who have not been quiet. They have been sidelined. In the new atmosphere created by a Trump presidency, they will likely become more energized. And that will give us Goys less cause to worry about being slandered.”

  59. Rurik says:

    now they’re saying it was a hoax, but I checked a search engine and it looked like a lot of news organizations were covering it, so hmmm.

    perhaps it was just too good to be true..

    Rurik ~ the duped

    • Replies: @Talha
  60. Of course the “war on terror” is bullshit. It’s designed to keep the American sheeple in a state of fear, while the corporate welfare checks flow to the military-industrial complex.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  61. Art says:

    Every American should see this – here are English speaking Muslims in London chanting “USA You Will Pay, Caliphate On Its Way.”

    Look at what the Iraq War has started – and look at what is to come.

    These Muslim people are mad – they have had enough – they have died enough – they have bled enough – how many of their young men what to kill us because we are killing their people?

    There are 1.5 billion Muslims – how many of them do we have to kill in order for them to understand that we stand for peace?

    How much more war can we handle? Where have the Jews taken us?

  62. Talha says:

    That is just absolutely and utterly deplorable! What the hell is wrong with people??!!

    May God safeguard his mother from physical harm and harm to her honor.

    • Replies: @Avery
  63. Rurik says:

    Yea Talha,

    I know.

    I guess I just wanted to believe it.

    We’ve all suffered the antics of thsee Satanic psychopaths for so long now, that I’m grasping at the air and phantoms, in the vain hope for some small shred of sanity.

    of course that guy isn’t going to come clean, that’s madness

    how silly I feel



    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  64. @anonymous

    “As far as I know there have been no casualties in Flint.”

    There are numerous known casualties, all still living. You apparently mean “no fatalities”.

    Fatalities will be more difficult to determine though the odds are there have been many. Medical reports, records, autopsies may have to be pursued. Also the diagnoses of what people died of, when lead in the water was not considered, are probably to be reviewed.

    Flint is just the tip of the iceberg–at least 30,000 identifiable areas have worse water contamination than Flint, including high lead levels, and the same testing cheats are used in more than 30 larger cities.

    Philadelphia is apparently much worse than Flint.

    But even all that is surely not the worst of it.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  65. Avery says:

    Agree Talha.

    These sewer rats need to be brutally shouted down (…no violence).
    I have no sympathy for Spencer for that juvenile Nazi-salute incident.
    And the has some nasty content.
    But you go after someone’s mother who is not involved in any way in her son’s politics, and you are asking for a massive smackdown.

    Spencer is right: even street gangs do not go near one’s mother.

    I hope the whole anti-Christian, anti-American hate-group gang, incongruously named ‘Love’ something ‘ (sic), gets tarred and feathered and run out of Whitefish.

  66. geokat62 says:
    @Orville H. Larson

    Of course the “war on terror” is bullshit. It’s designed to keep the American sheeple in a state of fear, while the corporate welfare checks flow to the military-industrial complex.

    One slight adjustment and your statement is bang on:

    Of course the “war on terror” is bullshit. It’s designed to keep the American sheeple in a state of fear and the people of Israel secure, while the corporate welfare checks flow to the military-industrial complex.

  67. @Rurik

    Don’t feel bad, I shared your ‘news’ without checking too. It’s ironic that the ‘fake’ tweet is truthful though. Perhaps we’ve entered Quartermaster’s world where everything is the very opposite of what is stated. Cheers

  68. @E. A. Costa

    Wow! Thanks for that, I had no idea of the extent of it all. What a disgrace!

    Probably the one import from China that is most needed everywhere is their practice of administering a bullet to the back of the head of corrupt officials who have betrayed the public trust. Simple, quick and very cost effective with the added bonus of having great deterrent value.

    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
  69. @NoseytheDuke

    Here is a Reuters essay on the subject:

    More generally, it is a variation of the same old story, universal in the United States in every area and at every level: if the tests indicate failure, change the tests.

    It started in education and has expanded. It has also now been exported and cunningly introduced into engineering by Volkswagen.

  70. Jake P. says:
    @Mark Green

    Mark, I agree with all the points that you made. The power that the Zionists have has no parallel. However, given all the crimes they are committing, their power, as impressive as it looks, will collapse, just like a house of cards. Remember, back in 1985, no one could predict the Soviet Union was going to collapse in just five years, but it did. All the signs suggest this one will far more spectacular.

  71. jtgw says:

    I’m a big Ron Paul supporter and believer in non-intervention, so I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but could you argue that the reason terrorism is a receding threat is precisely because the war on terror has been a success? Maybe other countries deal with their own militants more severely, or are reluctant to host them, because we have shown our willingness to intervene anywhere. Anyway, I’m sure this is how the neocons and imperialists are spinning it.

    • Replies: @Talha
  72. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    Agreed! US is trying to hide its intentions and actions by accusing others of terrorism! Using others as a mask to please the Anglo-Zionists!

  73. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Was the Berlin truck remotely-controlled?

    Do Tunisian asylum-seekers have the ability to remotely control a big rig?

  74. annamaria says:
    @E. A. Costa

    The ongoing celebration of Purim in the UK and US:

    Meanwhile, the growing antisemitism in Ukraine is the direct responsibility of Mrs. Nuland, her Jewish husband Mr. Kagan, and the editorial board of Wall Street Journal that has been extolling the neonazis-infested government in Kiev. The WSJ has even dedicated a fawning article to Mr. Kolomojsky, a financier of a neonazi battalion that was involved in a horrendous auto-da-fe of civilians in Odessa.

    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
  75. MEexpert says:

    I didn’t see Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, and Turkey listed as the State sponsors of terrorism. The oil sheikhs supply funds and weapons purchased from the US and Israel and Turkey provide training and tactical support to ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and other fringe groups.

    I think a group or state is terrorist because the US government says it is. That is our exceptionalism. America being the biggest , not only supporter of terrorism, but also the cause of terrorism. Furthermore, by the traditional definition of terrorism, the US is the biggest terrorist group or State.

    Mr. Giraldi, please explain why is Hezbollah listed as terrorist organization? Isn’t it because the Israel wants them listed as such? They are at war with Israel and if Israel can attack or bomb Hezbollah strongholds whenever they want, why can’t Hezbollah do the same to Israel? When Israel bombs, pre-emptive or not, they are defending themselves but if Hezbollah does it they are terrorists, not withstanding the fact that they are defending Lebanon.

  76. Talha says:

    Hey jtgw,

    On board with you about Ron Paul.

    the war on terror has been a success?

    Any more successes like this and the ME won’t be around. Maybe that is the success they are looking for.

    It is the success of someone who breaks a window and then claims success in covering the hole in duct tape – well, at least the air isn’t getting through.

    his is how the neocons and imperialists are spinning it

    They will always spin it to make themselves come out on top – our duty is to call them out on their utter BS.


    • Replies: @jtgw
  77. jtgw says:

    Thanks for your reply. I’m just always concerned about weak arguments. So if you have a war on terror but terrorism seems to be decreasing, you could argue either that the war on terror is unnecessary or that this just proves it’s working. I suppose you have to show that the decrease in terror has some other cause.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @RobinG
  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Moon of Alabama published an extremely important rundown of what amounts to a US Pentagon rebellion against the US executive —

    b referenced Gareth Porter’s reporting on the ‘Mistaken’ U S Airstrike on Syrian Troops

    The focal point for MofA’s report was the high-level conference among Iranian, Turkish and Russian diplomats, to which neither USA nor UN were invited or participated.

    Recall that the Jews took advantage of the transition period between US administrations in 2008 to “mow the lawn” in Gaza, attacking that open-air prison beginning on Dec 27, 2008 and continuing the slaughter until two days before Nobel Peace Prize awardee Barack Obama swore an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution.

    Ash Carter has gone rogue; correction: Carter has been a neocon operative well before he replaced the recalcitrant Chuck Hagel; in Sept. 2008 Carter collaborated with Dennis Ross, yet another of Israel’s subversives in US government, to produce a document advising the incoming president on how to “deal with” Iran, the state that Izzies and their fellow travelers have been trying to destroy since 1980, more or less.

    There is serious shit going down, and Jews — and the shit-faced ‘Americans’ like Jeffrey Harrington and many other traitors to US Constitution, are its shovelers-in-chief.

    We, the American people, are in the absurd situation of being dependent on “the leading state sponsor of terrorism,” Iran, and on the gravest enemy to the American people, Russia and its leader, Vladimir Putin, for our moral integrity and physical security.

    God bless them and god help us all.

    • Replies: @schmenz
  79. Talha says:

    Hey jtgw,

    I think that is playing into their game which is; ends justify the means.

    So, in a hostage situation, we could quite quickly bring it to an end by leveling the entire building; no more hostage situation – see where I’m going? They will always come up with the ‘We believe the price is worth it’ argument.

    When the conversation is devoid of any morals or any ethics, they always win the argument.


    • Agree: geokat62
  80. Anonymous [AKA "yoodi"] says:

    Samantha Powers? Noam Chomsky to the left? Condoleeza Rice and Cheney behind Bush.

  81. ThereisaGod says: • Website

    The War on Terror is a great success. It has destabilised the entire Muslim world and set the Muslim and Western world at each other’s throats. Its purpose was not victory but destruction to the point of World War … to pave the way for the final crisis that will lead to the desired Global banking paradise.
    We still don’t know how the endgame will play out.
    Be vigilant and oppose the warmongering b*stards with all you’ve got.
    Never fight for them!

  82. RobinG says:

    Hi jtgw,

    No, I don’t see why Talha went to that conclusion, but the framing of your question seems superficial or incomplete.

    There are 2 components to terror: the attempts and the completed acts. The reports Phil cites refer to ‘incidents’. Does that include both categories? Maybe Phil (or someone else who knows the reports) must be the one to answer.

    Doesn’t “War on Terror” refer to the military & CIA actions to ‘go after’ the terrorists? (Allegedly scruffy dark people who hate us for our freedoms, right?) The domestic security services may have become more successful in preventing incidents, but I’ll wager that our overseas actions have made much more work for them. And how about malicious intent? The anger may sleep for years and years.

  83. annamaria says:

    Outstanding article, indeed: “How The Military Excluded The White House From International Syria Negotiations,”
    Do not skip comments…

  84. @neutral

    Madeline Albright 45 years ago. (what good is a sword if you can’t use it?)

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @Art
  85. Due to Russia’s refusal to renew hostilities, the US had no choice but to conduct a war on terror. Makes perfect sense when you consider the alternative.

  86. Art says:
    @Carroll Price

    Madeline Albright 45 years ago. (what good is a sword if you can’t use it?)

    2000 years ago — Jesus Christ to Peter — “live by the sword – die by the sword.”

    Hmm — what a choice – willful destruction or life?

    Go with those words of Jesus – they say nothing of the Devine – they are not religious – they are not a commandment – they are statement, an intellectual entreaty. They speak to all – they are practical – good – and the truth. Those intellectual words preserve the most sacred thing of all – existence.

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @RobinG
  87. Agent76 says:

    Apr 28, 2016 Bush’s Lies For Iraq War

    The anniversary of the Fall of Saddam Hussein’s Statue in Baghdad’s Firdus Square from April 2003

  88. Art says:

    Mr. Trump – the current major enemy of world security is land based ISIS. Our goal is not democracy in Syria. Our goal is to see the end the war.

    What more can US generals do militarily in Syria, short of a full out invasion? The American people do not want that.

    It appears that Assad, Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, and the Kurds can militarily defeat ISIS. Mr. Trump — Let them! The major thing in their way, is the support of Saudi et al and Israel.

    Mr. Trump – if you want to defeat ISIS in Syria, the best thing you can do is NOT send in the military to kill more Muslims – but go after the money and support coming from those countries.

    The people of Iraq are fighting out their differences – when the Kurds, Sunni, and Shia are through, ISIS will be gone and Iraq will be a country again. They do NOT want us there — Mr. Trump — Let them be!

    Mr. Trump – we cannot kill our way to peace and security – stop the drone killing of Muslims – stop all the killing of Muslims that you can – only then will the American people be secure.

    Peace — Art

    • Agree: schmenz
  89. RobinG says:

    Merry Christmas, Art.

    Christians and Muslims is Syria celebrate the birth of Jesus. The tomb of John the Baptist is in the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus. In Aleppo, the whole city is now able to celebrate.

    DAESH is living by the sword, and many of them will die by it. Syria’s UN Ambassador calls them garbage. In this talk, Jaafari reveals through his stories several stunning revelations of UN and NATO action against Syria.
    Syrian Ambassador to UN Address to Schiller Institute September 11 Memorial Conference

  90. schmenz says:

    Ash Carter is a psychopath.

  91. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Outrageous !!!!
    Sudan , which receives 800 million in financial aid from USA is targeting Muslim converts to Christianity with the death penalty and public executions . Furthermore they are engaging in land theft , razing churches to the ground and converting the land to government use , even forcing the pastor of a church to sign a document consenting to the demolition of his church .

    The Islamic Republic of Sudan is an anti-Christian , Arab-Muslim supremacist state . In addition to colonization and land theft and denial of religious freedom to Christians they also maintain a government funded militia called the Janjaweed which is used in ethnic cleansing , mass rape and genocide in an effort to Arabize the black population . All the while they are also receiving financial aid from America in excess of 700 per million per year.

    • Replies: @bunga
    , @Talha
  92. bunga says:

    Israeli arms ‘helping to fuel South Sudan war,’ says UN
    Confidential report to Security Council says weapons sold before 2014 reached conflict-ridden country via East Africa Oct 20 ,2016

  93. Talha says:

    Hmmm…the article doesn’t say Sudan is “targeting Muslim converts to Christianity with the death penalty and public executions.” It seems to be targeting people trying to convert Muslims – which has always been a no-no, but the classic punishment for this is exile so who knows what Sudan is up to.

    Also, it seems your numbers are off – by a lot. The US gives \$250 million according to the agency responsible:

    Or maybe around \$300 million a few years ago:

    But the rest of the article is pretty grim – that is horrible. It seems the government is trying to pressure them out into the meat grinder known as South Sudan – this is deplorable.

    I think all governments who confiscate people’s land should have their aid cut off. Doesn’t that sound reasonable?


    • Replies: @Talha
    , @geokat62
    , @anon
  94. Talha says:

    For the record – I don’t actually believe the Sudanese government has a legitimate case concerning these pastors – they may completely be making the indictment up. Which is again – deplorable.

  95. geokat62 says:

    I think all governments who confiscate people’s land should have their aid cut off. Doesn’t that sound reasonable?

    Very reasonable.

  96. Brennan is a laugh and a half–he’s warning–publicly, very publicly–the Obama adminsitration NOT to attack Russia with hacks in response to “their hacking”:

    Gee, shooting a Russian ambassador is enough , no?

    But then he goes on:

    “Aleppo’s fall, to me is not a sign that there is going to be an end to this conflict because I am convinced that many, many of those oppositionists, the ones who are trying to reclaim their country for their families, for their neighbors, for their children, will continue to fight,”

    Ah, not terrorists, the “oppositionists”, jeje.

    Read this very closely and it is almost a confession: “Who needs tit-for-tat for hacking when we’ve already supported hit-for-tat? And by the way we are going to continue to support ISIS in Syria against Assad.”

    • Replies: @annamaria
  97. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Sure all governments that confiscated land should have their aid cut off from all aid giving entities .

    Surely we would start first with the countries responsible for the most land confiscation by the metric of square miles. The list would look like this :
    Indonesia,Turkey, Syria, Sudan, Egypt , Tunisia , Algeria , Iran,Pakistan, China ,Russia, Morocco , Libya , Somalia , Mauritania .

    Those are the worst violators and are in possession of the most confiscated land.

    • Replies: @KA
    , @Talha
  98. KA says:

    Top position of the list will go to Israel. And the rest of the countries left out can start right after Mauritania

    • Replies: @anon
  99. annamaria says:
    @E. A. Costa

    The presstituting MSM refuses to publish the names of “moderate” terrorists, the “Isreali, Turkish, Qatari and Saudi secret service officers trapped in Eastern Aleppo:”

  100. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Every single country on the list is occupying far more land than Israel. A few examples will suffice .

    Indonesia is occupying 124,000 square miles of Papua
    China is occupying 424,000 square miles of Tibet
    Morocco is occupying 103,000 square miles of Western Sahara.

    West Bank and Gaza are 2,200 square miles.

    Now thats some serious perspective !!!!!!

    • Replies: @Art
    , @bunga
  101. RobinG says:

    On SYRIA, you may find this of interest.

    VA State Senator Richard Black Addresses September 11 Memorial Schiller Conference

    Transcript-(does not have all maps, charts and photos)

    • Replies: @geokat62
  102. Talha says:

    Oh hello! It’s you again – looking for some measurement by which Israel gets to weasel out – 🙂

    Sorry, no, I don’t agree to your exact requisites. But I think you have a good idea, how about we take it by percentage of occupied land relative to country size? Surely you agree that a small man takes less pounds to become obese than a very tall one. So let’s take the first one off your list to KA:

    Indonesia is a total of 699,451 square miles and is occupying 124,000 – which gives us around 18% of its land that is occupied.

    Israel is 7,850 and is occupying 2,200 – why, that is around 28%!!!

    Maybe that was a fluke – let’s try China at 3,600,950 occupying 424,000 – which gives us 12%. Nope!

    Let’s assume occupied land is like extra fat – Israel surely needs to go on a diet more than Indonesia! Let’s help it by not giving it any more money to buy ‘cookies’. China seems quite trim.

    By the way, what land is Iran occupying? I mean specifically in violation of a UN resolution. Because otherwise the US is occupying far more land since Iran’s borders haven’t expanded since the Safavid Empire.


    • Replies: @anon
  103. geokat62 says:

    On SYRIA, you may find this of interest.

    Indeed, I found this of great interest:

    In 2006, the U.S. Embassy drafted detailed plans on how to destabilize and overthrow Syria. Now, remember, there were no demonstrations. This was a stable country. It really was sort of the ideal in the Arab world, of what we would hope they would have, in terms of freedom, and women’s rights, and things of that sort. But we had decided they were going to go down, and the plans were drafted.

    I was very impressed by the honesty and integrity of Richard Black. The unfortunate thing is that he is just a State Senator from Virginia. What about the other pols at the federal level? Apart from Tulsi Gabbard (and the 3 cosponsors of Her HR 4108 bill), they are all keeping silent, instructed by AIPAC to keep their mouths shut.

    So much for “the land of the free and the home of the brave.”

    • Replies: @RobinG
  104. Art says:

    West Bank and Gaza are 2,200 square miles.

    Now thats some serious perspective !!!!!!

    It seems that the world does not agree!

    The UN condemned Israel and its occupation of Palestine.

    The world has shifted – the world has spoken – Israel will never again be able to claim victimhood again. It is the acknowledged bad guy.

    Every time Israel shows its face, it gets meaner and uglier, your protestations get weaker and weaker. The people of the world are fed up with it all – they want peace – Israel wants endless upheaval.

    You Jews voted for no peace in your last election – well the world does not like that.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. For how many more years do you Jews think you can hard ass the world?

    • Replies: @Art
  105. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Hey my old friend Tahla

    Morocco , Tunisia , Libya and Sudan are all 100% occupied territory . Arabs are native to Arabia , not North Africa as the name Arab clearly shows. . Arabia is a whopping 4,000 miles from Morocco.

    Arabs arrived , conquered , subjugated , genocided , raped and forced conversion on the dwindling survivors of the original native populations. Then proceeded to make apartheid laws encoding Islam as superior to all other religions and imposing penalties including death on minority religions that do not apply to to adherents of islam.

    Why were the regimes South Africa, Rhodesia , North Rhodesia , Belgian Congo ,Mozambique &c. compelled to abandon their governments and countries and face embargo and sanctions from the United Nations for doing 1/10 of what Arabs did in North Africa. Yet then and now there is a not a peep from the UN about independence decolonization of North Africa

    • Replies: @bunga
    , @Talha
  106. bunga says:

    Chinese number in billions How do the Israelis measure up to that number ? Chinese have been there continuously . You don’t go to palace and then travel to another part of the city quote your visit and occupy someone else’s plot of land because the palace is so big !!

  107. bunga says:

    Hey Anon stop confusing 1000 yrs old l history with that of 100 yrs . Stop justifying your disregard of current occupation with ethnocentric exclusive attributes –which are inherent part of the fabric creation of State of Israel and which was created and maintained by blackmail and doles and bribes,- with 1000 yrs old occupation and conquest where the human tendency to conquer was met with resistance, fight,compromises and assimilation and subsequent joint existential experiences that was accomplished without bribing of UN without bribing and false promises and private economic or monetary calculation of the individual leaders of the imperial power . Protagonist fought with each other . A new more egalitarian more successful more integrated nation was born in Europe in N Africa in China in America

    Israel stands apart and it achieves the success on the back of other by bribes by blackmailing by corrupting every nation it comes across. Domestically it remains a Nazi type nation . Its not N Africa or Russia or Brazil.

    • Replies: @anon
  108. anon • Disclaimer says:

    .Hey Anon stop confusing 1000 yrs old l history with that of 100 yrs

    You are the one who is confused . Only a few examples
    Sudanese occupation of Darfur : 1956 to present —1 million + killed
    Indonesian occupation of Papua : 1963 to present –500,000 + killed
    Russian occupation of Chechnya : 1991 to present—150,000 + killed
    Turkish occupation of Kurdistan and Northern Cyprus—- 75,000 + killed
    Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara : 1981 to present —37,000+ killed
    Israeli Palestinian conflict : 1967 to present —-22,000 killed

    . Domestically it remains a Nazi type nation

    Confused again I guess .
    Iran , Saudi Arabia , Pakistan , Bangladesh , Sudan , Mauritania , Somalia and many more Islamic countries all make it illegal to convert from Islam to Christianity , Judaism , Hinduism , Sikhism , Buddhism . The penalty for this is execution . Converting from any of these to Islam is not illegal and carries no penalty. In stark contrast to this religious supremacy in Islamic counties , in Israel there is no penalty or crime in converting to or from any religion.

    Iran , Saudi Arabia , Pakistan , Bangladesh , Sudan , Mauritania , Somalia and many more Islamic countries all make it illegal to be a homosexual . The punishment is execution . There are public executions of homosexuals in Iran and Saudi Arabia as well as many other countries.

    In Mauritania slavery still exists with 20% of the population living in slavery actually being owned by other people .In 2016 no less. Slavery is also taking place in the Islamic controlled territory in Sudan , Chad , Niger , Nigeria, Syria , with the high profile exploits of Boko Haram and ISIS taking most of the publicity .

    • Replies: @KA
    , @Talha
  109. RobinG says:

    Hey Geo, Merry Christmas, and thanks for invoking the Lakshmi Shakti. You deserve an update.


    H.R. 4108 has expired. On Dec. 8, 2016, Gabbard introduced SATA, the Stop Arming Terrorists Act. (SATA is 4108 with a slight addition/modification.) There are 4 co-sponsors, one from 4108, and 3 new ones.

    In the new year, a new session of Congress begins, so SATA must be re-introduced after Jan. 3, 2017. HERE’s a link to the Press Release:

    Here she is, pinning Jake Tapper to the mat. Take that, Big Media!

    Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard Says The U.S. Government Is Directly Funding ISIS And Al Qaeda!

    • Replies: @geokat62
  110. KA says:

    No You are very confused because you do not get the e nature of the occupation In Israel occupied land remains a colonized land maintained by American muscle power through backdoor which is protected by bribery blackmail and pure aggression on free speech Those countries that are under your microscope have many faults but discrimination is not one of them . Slavery boned labor do exist in Pakistan and Sudan and the Muslims are the victims so are the Christians
    Those countries face sanctions and censoring by US and west . Let me know when that ever happens against Israel.
    So dont cry about non- Muslim or non Arab again .

    S Sudan today gets arms from Israel . Israel will sell arms tomorrow to Mauritaina to make some money if it could . This is same Sudan which suffered from Israeli hasbara a lot in 2003 onwards resulting in Independence of S Sudan whose blood letting is maintained being by Isarel I guess Israel used the same arguments that you are using when Israel was protecting the apartheid regime of S Africa — ” look at what is happening in rest of Africa How they treat their own people” . That’s an abominable excuse .
    It is an argument to play one party against another and maintain the violence for money while getting protection from West ..

    About conversion? What about Israel ? can a gentile convert to Judaism and claim same right as born Jewish? Dont think so.

  111. Talha says:

    Hello friend,

    Arabs arrived , conquered

    Boy did they ever!


    Your folks actually thought the changing of the guard was a good deal:
    “Omar permitted the Jews to reestablish their presence in Jerusalem–after a lapse of 500 years…Jewish tradition regards Omar as a benevolent ruler…”

    “The Moors engaged in battle with Visigothic soldiers, eventually killing their monarch, King Roderick. The Muslim invasion, and subsequent administration of Iberia, freed the major Spanish population of Jews from Visigothic oppression. It was said that immediately after the invasion, the Jewish population of Toledo “opened the gates” of the city, welcoming the North African Muslims (Wexler 218). Though ruthless fighters, the Moors were very just.”

    So what was it, chief? Can’t have it both ways?

    genocided , raped and forced conversion on the dwindling survivors of the original native populations.

    Prove it. Genocide is a pretty grave indictment. And yes, there were instances of this as was common in pre-modern history (and actually occurs today), but was this the policy on a large scale? No.

    The fact is that the native populations in those areas are still quite distinctly themselves (like Berbers, Tuaregs, etc.) or mixed in with the Arab settlers (I know an Arab man from Morocco who married a Berber woman). Or even ethnic people like Berbers who adopted Arabic. This is quite natural – the current king of Morocco is half-Berber and a descendant of the noble house of the Prophet (s) as well.

    And do you even know the history of Sudan? There was no military conquest – the Nubians were way too tough (their archery was exceptional as recorded in our history books). They fought off the initial assault and won a peace with the Muslims. Islam and Arabs/Arabic spread there slowly:
    “After the initial attempts at military conquest failed, the Arab commander in Egypt, Abd Allah ibn Saad, concluded the first in a series of regularly renewed treaties with the Nubians that, with only brief interruptions, governed relations between the two peoples for more than 600 years…Acceptance of the treaty did not indicate Nubian submission to the Arabs, but the treaty did impose conditions for Arab friendship that eventually permitted Arabs to achieve a privileged position in Nubia…Although not all Muslims in the region were Arabic-speaking, acceptance of Islam facilitated the arabizing process. There was no policy of proselytism, however, and forced conversion was rare. Islam penetrated the area over a long period of time through intermarriage and contacts with Arab merchants and settlers. Exemption from taxation in regions under Muslim rule also proved a powerful incentive to conversion.”

    And of course the Sufis were there all the way:
    “The conversion was largely the work of a handful of Islamic missionaries who came to the Sudan from the larger Muslim world. The great success of these missionaries, however, was not among the Funj themselves but among the Arabized Nubian population settled along the Nile. Among these villagers the missionaries instilled a deep devotion to Islam that appears to have been conspicuously absent among the nomadic Arabs who had first reached the Sudan after the collapse of the kingdom of Maqurrah…Many of the more famous Sudanese missionaries who followed them were Sufi holy men, members of influential religious brotherhoods who sought the way to God through mystical contemplation. The Sufi brotherhoods played a vital role in linking the Sudan to the larger world of Islam beyond the Nile valley. Although the fervour of Sudanese Islam waned after 1700, the great reform movements that shook the Muslim world in the late 18th and early 19th centuries produced a revivalist spirit among the Sufi brotherhoods, giving rise to a new order, the Mīrghāniyyah or Khatmiyyah, later one of the strongest in the modern Sudan. The ‘missionaries’ were faqīhs (Islamic jurists) who attracted a following through their teachings and piety and laid the foundations for a long line of indigenous Sudanese holy men.”

    So if you want to claim genocide – the burden of proof is on you. You can’t just claim your opinion as evidence.

    Then proceeded to make apartheid laws encoding Islam as superior to all other religions

    Yes they did – this was par for the course actually – and yet Jews actually welcomed their conquests – why would that be? Could it be that (given the time) they were actually more tolerant than the Byzantines or Visigoths?

    imposing penalties including death on minority religions that do not apply to to adherents of islam.

    What are you talking about? Seriously – if that had been the case there wouldn’t be a Jew, a Yazidi, an Assyrian Christian, etc. walking around on the planet.

    Yet then and now there is a not a peep from the UN about independence decolonization of North Africa.

    Maybe because nobody cares. Please show evidence that the Berbers and other ethnicities actually consider themselves occupied by Arabs in those countries. We aren’t talking about, say, discrimination in government hiring practices or something. But they feel like they are occupied like with Palestinians and Israelis. Shouldn’t be too hard now should it?


  112. Talha says:

    The punishment for the public act of sodomy witnessed by four or more people is execution.

    There, fixed it for you.


    • Replies: @anon
  113. Terror kills human being. If you have good arithmetic that you can easily calculate a total number of terror’s victims. The a large number is arabs and muslim.

    Next we found anti semitic, anti arabic, anti islamic.

    Off course we condemm IS that is truly terrorists in post 2003. Lets count a truly terrorists in 2000, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1988, 1987, 1967, 1966, 1956, 1955, 1954, 1953, 1951, 1949, 1947, 1946 .. Plz

  114. We condemn IS and their affiliated all terrorists. Then if we count all victims of terrorism from 1944 to 1916, largely arabs and muslims.

    Who hatred arabs and muslims eagerly? We found next: anti arabic, anti islamic, anti semitic. We found truth everywhere.

    We are all antiterrorism.

  115. geokat62 says:

    Thanks for the update, RobinG. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you, too.
    I hope her new bill attracts many more cosponsors than her previous one. But given the power of AIPAC, I still remain doubtful.

  116. A UN era is legitimate. Dont dream and found nightmares somewhere.

    Learn about international common sense. What nations after UN established? Is UN ever mention the word of colonialism, terrorism, occupation? Yes.

    Back to UN. Love UN.

  117. Every murderer is terrorist.
    A foundation of human rights principles.

  118. You see the surface.
    You see iceberg.
    You hear actual tone.
    You dont see the surface but hear actual sound.
    You see the iceberg and hear the sound.
    You see everything and hear everything in deep see in deep government but you unable to see false flag operations on earth.
    Happy New Year.
    Sometimes you have it all because you are human.
    Human can not be cheated by human because human is clever than than.
    Not all the country is white or black.
    Terrorist or warcrime is not country entity because every country have good constitution.
    It is human behind country shield.
    Human behind human shield.
    But human can not defeat human.
    For that we love UN as prime pillar of world fairness as whatever happens in FIFA we love FIFA. Love soccer.
    Love geopolitical fairness.

  119. Everyday anytime we wake up, the internet teach us inch by inch, step by step, and finally we look everything and capture every devil.ĺ

    So the fake news, propaganda, divide and rule, evil whisper to fight ours each other, provocative action, direct or covert war, all are useless. Because we watch online worldwide. Everybody is CCTV live. Every time is quick exploration.

    In a complex and simple situation of modern wars, we are not nice sitting-campus students. We refuse some transcript of war history makers. We jump to d’online ocean. We examine the carrat of the truth to hold every stealth.

    We are you people of antiterrorism, in fair and clear definition. Inch by inch.

  120. Art says:

    The UN condemned Israel and its occupation of Palestine.

    Obama may have saved is presidency – he did something that NO president has done in 50 years – this was an act of great courage – major kudos to him.

    He is on the wrong side of personal money – but on the right side of history.

    The Jews will get their revenge – Obama just gave up perhaps 100 million dollars in speaking fees.

    Again – God bless!

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Talha
  121. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The punishment for the public act of sodomy witnessed by four or more people is execution.

    Tahla , I can certainly see the method behind laws such as these , given the proclivity to forced sodomy in Muslim dominated societies . Bacha-Bazi gets much of the headlines but most every Muslim culture has a practice that is quite the same even though it may go by a different name . A few examples out of many possible :

    Bacha-Bazi : In all of Afghanistan and also parts of neighboring Iran , Pakistan and Tajikistan Bacha-bazi ( forced sodomy on pre pubescent males ) is widespread . In Afghanistan it is the most prevalent with estimates of 20% of the male population having gone through the horror of being a Bacha-Bazi and Bacha-Berisha. After the Bacha-Berisha phase when the boy has grown a beard he is often discarded . He himself is prone to go on as a Bacha-Baz searching out his own prey and kidnapping a boy to be used as a Bacha-Bazi. A vicious circle ,if ever there was one . This practice is so accepted in Afghan society that the phrase ” For child rearing – a woman, For pleasure- a boy ” is echoed throughout the country and also in neighboring regions of Pakistan and many other Muslim societies. Sometimes the the addition of ” and for ecstasy – a goat” is added to the phrase but for our purposes here , it is not necessary to cover that .

    Kocek is the term used in Turkey. It means small or little. These Koceks are similar to Bacha-Bazi in that they are boys forced to dress in feminine clothing and submit to their owners in feats of dancing and sex . As well as Koceks were usually trained in dancing and treated better than Bacha-Bazi. The difference between Kocek and Bacha-Bazzi is that Bacha-Bazi is for sexual pleasure only and Kocek boys would be trained entertainers as well.

    Banci. In Indonesia you have the Banci. Lets give credit where it is due. Banci are different from Bacha-Bazi in that they are almost always adults and not children .They are also almost always becoming a Banci out of their own free will as opposed to being forced and kidnapped as Bachas are in Afghanistan and Pakistan , although Banci are marginalized and have been raped in many cases every year .. Banci will be found almost on all street corners dressed as women beggin for money or playing a banjo. Also they will prostitute themslelves at night time out in the open. Banci are so ubiquitous that most muslim marriages in Indonesia have a Banci as live entertainment . See the 2011 Indonesian movie “Lovely Man ” for more info.

    • Replies: @Talha
  122. Talha says:


    I can certainly see the method behind laws such as these

    Sure you can – it’s in the Torah:
    “The act of homosexuality, i.e. two men having sexual relations, is prohibited (SOURCE #1). The act is twice called a “Toaivaan abomination” and it is such a severe sin, that it merits the death penalty in a Jewish court system.”

    Bacha-Bazi gets much of the headlines

    It does – what doesn’t get headlines is the fact that it was practically eradicated by the Taliban – we brought it back from life support:
    “The Taliban made the practice punishable by death, but bacha bazi has been resurrected since the fall of the Taliban.”

    but most every Muslim culture

    Wow – so your evidence for “most every Muslim culture” apart from Bacha Bazi is an extinct practice from Ottoman times and then acceptance of transvestites in parts of Indonesia. Spectacular – I’m sure you’ve convinced everyone else watching this exchange.

    Of course – other groups are also suffering from this issue – so I guess we can all take some anecdotes and draw community-wide conclusions, right?:
    “”Boys used to come and tell me that they go the ritual bath—they’re being sodomized,” the rabbi said. “Girls used to tell me that their father sleeps with them.” Faced with mounting reports of child molestation, Rosenberg founded a free hotline to inform his community about sexual predators, as well as how to get the police involved.
    Other rabbis denounced the open condemnation of community pedophiles, labeling Rosenberg an “informer” against the Jewish people. The smear has given apparent permission for violence against Rosenberg himself.”

    Glass houses, bro – glass houses…

    So what’s next on your anti-Islam cheat-sheet?


    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @anon
  123. RobinG says:

    Talha, your patience and perseverance is astonishing. More power to you.

    • Replies: @Talha
  124. anon • Disclaimer says:

    20% Of Afghan males being the victims of forced sodomy and sexual slavery as adolescents is hardly comparable to the anecdotes you gave. Yes at one time the taliban outlawed it but nowadays they are fellow practitioners. And how much more depravity does it show that even the death penalty cannot deter sky high rates.

    Anecdotes you offered are easy. Here is one back at ya from your native Pakistan , another Bacha-Bazi hot spot :

    In Pakistan, the mullahs are notoriously famous for child abuse and molestation. Every day, we hear news about a mullah sodomizing his beardless student – a very common phenomenon in Pakistan. Almost every one knows what happens in Madrassas. Even one of my friends narrowly escaped from being sodomized by his Quranic teacher when he was taking the Quran memorizing lessons.

    But why do these mullahs commit such a thing, allegedly condemned in Islam? Muslims are most vocal in commending sodomy, homosexuality in words? They are known to attack homosexuals in Europe.

    Answer is that, according to them, masturbation is haram. Seeing any na mehram girl is also prohibited. The only way left to satisfy their lusty desires is to sodomize one of their pupils. While reading from a shia Website,] , I came across the fact that the root of sodomy lies in the Islamic text and history. Here are some examples of the gems from the history and authentic books of Sunni Islam.

    • Replies: @Talha
  125. Talha says:

    Hey RobinG,

    Hope you had a good, warm time with friends and family over the holidays.

    Anything good reflected in my character is a testament to the efforts of my teachers and parents and (hopefully) a sign of the acceptance of their prayers on my behalf.

    These folks just provide me with a platform to get the right information out to combat the madness. It’s people like you who are reading with open minds that make it all worthwhile.

    Peace and a happy and safe New Years.

  126. Talha says:

    but nowadays they are fellow practitioners

    Actually, the Taliban are using this weakness of our allies to kill them – not very impressive comment on our allies:
    “Horrifying abuse at checkpoints makes the boys, many unpaid and unregistered, hungry for revenge and easy prey for Taliban recruitment — often because there is no other escape from exploitative commanders.”

    Here are some examples of the gems from the history and authentic books of Sunni Islam.

    LOL!!! Seriously??? So your copy-and-paste citation is from a site called

    And an article called “ANAL SEX APPROVED BY ALLAH AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD”. May I be forgiven for actually having to read through that garbage.

    Are you serious, bro??? And the “hadith” they quote conspicuously change the translation to the wording of “anal sex” when all of the schools know this has zero to do with sodomy but rather the reluctance of some of the Arabs to have relations with their wives from behind (aka “doggie style”) because there was superstition that their children would be born with a disease. Sodomy is prohibited by consensus with males or females.

    And I love that the site just makes a claim that mullahs are raping boys left and right with impunity. I’m sure incidents do happen (like with rabbis and priests), but let’s cite some facts or stats to back up your claim. Your opinion or that of “sheikhyermami” is irrelevant.

    For the record, the fact that this does occur at times is actually a very good reason to bring back the old tradition of young boys being taught early Islamic education entirely by female scholars until they have become physical adults at puberty – in order to nip any of this in the bud.

    OK – so we covered occupation of land (which you totally struck out on based on your own numbers, since you conveniently didn’t disclose occupation area relative to actual country size), then the alleged genocide of everybody and their mother in North Africa, the sodomy thing is getting tiring now (unless you have some sort of specific fixation on it) – so what’s next on your sheet?

    Please though, at least extend some courtesy to my intelligence and my time, by citing some academic sources or valid scientific or social research for your claims. Don’t be lazy about it – it’s embarrassing for your side – please have some self-respect – people are watching.

    I’m afraid I’ll have to ignore any more of your opinion-filled posts (I’m trying to take you seriously, but you’re not giving me anything to work with) – sorry, four kids and a cat to raise, they need my time too.


    • Replies: @Talha
    , @anon
  127. Talha says:

    Sorry, this is the actual link for the quote:
    “Some policemen, they said, demand bachas like a perk of the job, refusing to join outposts where they are not available. Horrifying abuse at checkpoints makes the boys, many unpaid and unregistered, hungry for revenge and easy prey for Taliban recruitment — often because there is no other escape from exploitative commanders.”

    Our tax dollars put these monsters in charge – may God forgive us.

    • Replies: @anon
  128. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Hyperbole aside , you are the one who started with anecdotes from supposed rabbis as a lame counter to institutional rape of young boys that is rampant in Pakistan and Afghanistan. That prompted my retort that anecdotes are easy and provided one. Admitting it was just that. An anecdote. That was a poor attempt at obfuscation from you.

    The fact is that Indonesia is occupying 60X more land than Israel and has killed 20X the amount of people as Israel , while enjoying a double standard that awards them .00001% of the scrutiny or condemnation . Similar metrics are in play for occupations by China,Russia,Sudan,Morocco,Turkey &c.

    I have 3 children and zero pets , but surely you spend much much more time here than I do by at least 10X.

    BTW I am not interested in sodomy , in fact Im against it even for heterosexuals. Pakistanis seem interested. Some items from the police blotter :
    A 60 year old Pakistani man in Dubai raping two 12 year old boys

    2 Pakistani army officers part of a peace keeping force in Haiti abduct and sodomize a mentally retarded 12 year old boy.

    • Replies: @Talha
  129. anon • Disclaimer says:

    American soldiers that came across the abuse were told to ignore it. An American soldier who walked in on a Afghan officer raping a boy and subsequently beat the shit out of the Afghan officer was court martialed. This is because the president is Muslim or at very least a muslim apologist and considers the practice to be a cultural more that mere kuffar cannot possibly understand.

    At the end of the day the Afghans are the ones doing the raping , thus they are 100% responsible for the disgusting crimes. They will be the ones needing gods foregiveness. Not us.

    • Replies: @Talha
  130. Talha says:

    Hey Art,

    Wow – I could not believe my eyes when I saw this – my wife and I were both shocked. I didn’t think this would happen in my lifetime,

    And yes, Zionists will make him pay like hell for that parting shot.


  131. False flag ops include these fake intellectualism to feed n breed terror minds

    We happy They fail

  132. Talha says:

    Still on the subject of sodomy, eh?

    American soldiers that came across the abuse were told to ignore it.

    By whom? Court-martialed by whom?

    the practice to be a cultural more

    Bingo! This is a reprehensible cultural norm in parts of Afghanistan which is at odds with Islamic teachings. They must decide what to put first; culture or religion when this conflict arises. It seems they have sided with culture on this subject while the Taliban chose religion.

    At the end of the day the Afghans are the ones doing the raping , thus they are 100% responsible for the disgusting crimes.

    Correct again – they will be taken to account for all of these acts.

    Not us.

    Of course not, we need forgiveness for being on the dock for ‘aiding and abetting’ or ‘being an accessory to’ the crime.

    Have you been taught to always look for fault elsewhere and completely ignore your own responsibility? Don’t answer that – that’s more rhetorical than anything else.


    • Replies: @anon
  133. anon • Disclaimer says:

    the sodomy thing is getting tiring now (unless you have some sort of specific fixation on it) – so what’s next on your sheet?

    Please reference your post #119 where you were the first to bring up sodomy and the Islamic tradition , out of the blue and for no good reason :

    The punishment for the public act of sodomy witnessed by four or more people is execution.

    Prior to that I did not mention it at all . I was simply stating the facts about the numerous occupations around the world with death tolls in the hundreds and thousands and millions and with land theft in the hundreds of thousands of square miles . Also the fact was raised that Christian colonists were forced by the world body to abandon their African colonies such as South Africa ,Rhodesia , Mozambique and many others , while the Arab colonizers of north Africa received no such demands , even though they were and are occupying a far larger land mass and have committed and continue to commit atrocities and ethnic cleansing up to genocide on said land.

    • Replies: @Talha
  134. Talha says:

    supposed rabbis

    I see, so those guys are ‘supposed rabbis’ – so can I say the people sodomizing children in Muslim countries are ‘supposed Muslims’? If not – why not – you just did.

    poor attempt at obfuscation

    I sometimes wonder if there are two people using this same ‘anon’ account not speaking to each other. Bro, as I said before – you are the Padishah Emperor of obfuscation – long may you reign! Go back up this trail – the only reason we are even talking about sodomy on a thread about the ‘War on Terror’ is because you introduced it and won’t let up on it.

    I am not interested in sodomy

    Could have fooled me – then drop the subject.

    And your argument isn’t even coherent; are you blaming Muslims for hating homosexuals by having legal penalties against them or saying Muslims are flaming gay-pride advocates? Pick your narrative and stick with it – otherwise you come across as an opportunist.

    Pakistanis seem interested.

    Hmmm…do you really want to go there? Being an advocate of Israel? For the record, your folks are currently in charge of the holy city of Jerusalem after 14 centuries of almost consecutive Muslim rule…and now there are gay pride parades in the same ground that was tread on by the blessed feet of God’s many emissaries:

    Again, glass houses…work on your folks, we’ll work on ours.

    The fact is that Indonesia is

    …also 90x the size of Israel and 32x as populous – so proportionately, by area and per capita it is still less criminal than Israel – you simply leave out the numbers that won’t fit with your math. I denounce the innocent blood that the Indonesian military has shed with their brutal presence in Papau – do you denounce the innocent blood shed by Israeli military in West Bank and Gaza? This should be an easy one – I’m not talking about armed militants, I’m talking about innocent Palestinian women, children, elderly, etc.; yes or no? Do not obfuscate please – yes or no?

    Peace – may God protect and bless your three children.

  135. anon • Disclaimer says:

    By whom? Court-martialed by whom?

    By their superiors in the military .

    Have you been taught to always look for fault elsewhere and completely ignore your own responsibility?

    This is a distinctly Islamic trait . Muslims will find fault with anything Israel does while completely ignoring and taking no responsibility for their own far worse and more numerous acts. All of these combined will be ignored in favor of finding fault with Israel :
    Indonesian occupation of Papua , Sudanese occupation of Darfur , Turkish occupation of Cyprus , Turkish occupation of Kurdistan , Assads war crimes in Syria , the Goat boys war crimes in Syria, a dozen Islamic countries where converting from Islam to Christianity is a crime punishable by death , Slavery in Mauritania , Sudan , Niger , Nigeria and Syria , kidnapping and enslaving of Christian and Yazid girls in Iraq ,Syria and Nigeria , the thousands of terror attacks committed each year by Muslims and too many more to name.

    • Replies: @Talha
  136. Talha says:

    Bro, reference your post at #115:

    Islamic countries all make it illegal to be a homosexual . The punishment is execution

    I was clearing up that start of the incoherent nonsense.

    while the Arab colonizers of north Africa received no such demands

    Prove that the indigenous people are not Arab after near 14 centuries. Then prove that earlier indigenous people like Tuareg, Berber, etc. actually consider their countries occupied by Arabs.

    If this is such a problem, there should have been many formal petitions to the UN and cases started by now by the various people. Shouldn’t be tough for you to cite evidence.


  137. Talha says:

    By their superiors in the military

    And who pays and employs them? And gives them policies to enforce?

    This is a distinctly Islamic trait

    I don’t know why we should believe this. I recently attended a lecture on hadith by one of my teachers, the topic of discussion; how leadership should not be given to the unworthy or treacherous. Through the entire lecture, he expanded on how Muslims are in such horrible conditions due to our appointment of unworthy leaders and that our sorry state is a reflection of our own mistakes and our sins which we have to rectify. That the impetus is on us to get our house in order.

    Not one mention of non-Muslims and their policies – not one.

    The funny thing is, in many of the cases you mention; Muslims are the perpetrators and they are the victims, and Muslims are also doing the lion’s share of the fighting to bring the Muslim criminals to justice…but apparently Muslims collectively are to blame.

    Like I mentioned, I have zero problems denouncing criminal actions of those of ISIS, Boko Haram or even the Muslim-run governments that are murdering innocent people. Will you denounce the killing of innocents by the Israeli government in its occupations?


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