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What is the best way to debunk a conspiracy theory? Call it a conspiracy theory, a label which in and of itself implies disbelief. The only problem with that is there have been many actual conspiracies both historically and currently and many of them are not in the least theoretical in nature. Conspiracies of several kinds brought about American participation in both world wars. And however one feels about President Donald Trump, it must be conceded that he has been the victim of a number of conspiracies, first to deny him the GOP nomination, then to insure that he be defeated in the presidential election, and subsequently to completely delegitimize his presidency.

Prior to Trump there have been numerous conspiracy “theories,” many of which have been quite plausible. The “suicide” of Defense Secretary James Forrestal comes to mind, followed by the assassination of John F. Kennedy, which has been credibly credited to both Cuba and Israel. And then there is 9/11, perhaps the greatest conspiracy theory of all. Israel clearly knew it was coming, witness the Five Dancing Shlomos cavorting and filming themselves in New Jersey as the twin towers went down. Also the Saudis might have played a role in funding and even directing the alleged hijackers. And we have also had the conspiracy by the neocons to fabricate information about Iraq’s WMDs and the ongoing conspiracy by the same players to depict Iran as a threat to the United States.

Given the multiple crises currently being experienced in the United States it is perhaps inevitable that speculation about conspiracies is at its highest level ever. To the average American it is incomprehensible how the country has become so screwed up because the political and economic elite is fundamentally incompetent, so the search for a scapegoat must go on.

There are a number of conspiracy theories about the coronavirus currently making the rounds. Those libertarians and contrarians who choose to believe that the virus is actually a flu being exploited to strip them of their liberties are convinced that many in the government and media have conspired to sell what is essentially a fraud. One such snake oil salesman persists in using an analogy, that since more Americans are killed in automobile accidents than by the coronavirus it would be more appropriate to ban cars than to require the wearing of face masks.

Another theory making the rounds accuses Microsoft multi-billionaire Bill Gates of trying to take over the world’s healthcare system through the introduction of a vaccine to control the coronavirus, which he presumably created in the first place. The fallacy in many of the virus “conspiracies” that relate to a totalitarian regime or a crazy billionaire using a faux disease to generate fear so as to gain control of the citizenry is that it gives far too much credit to any government’s or individual’s ability to pull off a fraud of that magnitude. It would require people a whole lot smarter than the tag team of Trump-Pompeo or even Gates to convince the world and thousands of doctors and scientists that they should lock down entire countries over something completely phony.

Other coronavirus theories include that the virus was developed in the U.S., was exported to China by a traitorous American scientist, weaponized in Wuhan and then unleashed on the West as part of a communist plot to destroy capitalism and democracy. That would mean that we are already at war with China, or at least we should be. Then there is the largely accepted theory that the virus was created in Wuhan and escaped from the lab. Since that time Beijing has been engaging in a cover-up, which is the conspiracy. It is a theme favored by the White House, which has not yet decided what to do about it beyond assigning funny “Yellow Peril” names to the disease so everyone in MAGA hats will have something to chuckle about leading up to the November election.

But all kidding aside, there are some conspiracy theories that are more worth considering than others. One would be the role of George Soros and the so-called Open Society Foundations that he controls and funds in the unrest that is sweeping across the United States. The allegations against Soros are admittedly thin on evidence, but conspiracy mongers would point out that that is the mark of a really well-planned conspiracy, similar to what the 89 year-old Hungarian Jewish billionaire has been engaging in for a long time. The current round of claims about Open Society and Soros have generated as many as 500,000 tweets a day as well as nearly 70,000 Facebook posts per month, mostly from political conservatives.

The allegations tend to fall into two broad categories. First, that Soros hires protester/thugs and transports them to demonstrations where they are supplied with bricks and incendiaries to turn the gatherings into riots. Second, that Open Society is funding and otherwise enabling the destabilizing flow of illegal immigrants into the United States.

Soros and his supporters, many of whom are Jewish because they think they see anti-Semitism in the attacks on the Hungarian, claim to support democratization and free trade worldwide. He is, in effect, one of the world’s leading globalists. Soros claims to be a “force for good” as the cliché goes, but is it completely credible that his $32 billion foundation does not operate behind the scenes to influence developments in ways that are certainly not democratic?

Indeed, Soros accumulated his vast fortune through vulture capitalism. He made over $1 billion in 1992 by selling short $10 billion in British pounds sterling, leading to the media dubbing him “the man who broke the bank of England.” He has been accused of similar currency manipulation in both Europe and Asia. In 1999, New York Times economist Paul Krugman wrote of him that “Nobody who has read a business magazine in the last few years can be unaware that these days there really are investors who not only move money in anticipation of a currency crisis, but actually do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit.”

Far from a passive bystander giving helpful advice to democracy groups, Soros was heavily involved with the restructuring of former communist regimes in eastern Europe and had a hand in the so-called Rose Revolution in Georgia in 2003 and the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine in 2014, both of which were supported by the U.S. government and were intended to threaten Russia’s regional security.

Soros particularly hates President Vladimir Putin and Russia. He revealed that he is far from a benevolent figure fighting for justice in his March Financial Times op-ed (behind a pay wall) entitled “Europe Must Stand With Turkey Over Putin’s War Crimes in Syria.”

The op-ed is full of errors of fact and is basically a call for aggression against a Russia that he describes as engaged in bombing schools and hospitals. It starts with, “Since the beginning of its intervention in Syria in September 2015, Russia has not only sought to keep in place its most faithful Arab ally, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. It has also wanted to regain the regional and global influence that it lost since the fall of the Soviet Union.” First of all, Russia did not “intervene” in Syria. It was invited there by the country’s legitimate government to provide assistance against various groups, some of which were linked to al Qaeda and the Islamic State, that were seeking to overthrow President al-Assad.

And apart from Soros, few actual experts on Russia would claim that it is seeking to recreate the “influence” of the Soviet Union. Moscow does not have the resources to do so and has evinced no desire to pursue the sort of global agenda that was characteristic of the Soviet state.

There then follows a complete flight into hyperbole with: “Vladimir Putin has sought to use the turmoil in the Middle East to erase international norms and advances in international humanitarian law made since the second world war. In fact, creating the humanitarian disaster that has turned almost 6 million Syrians into refugees has not been a byproduct of the Russian president’s strategy in Syria. It has been one of his central goals.” Note that none of Soros’s assertions are supported by fact.

The Soros op-ed also included a bit of reminiscence, describing how, “In 2014, I urged Europe to wake up to the threat that Russia was posing to its strategic interests.” The op-ed reveals Soros as neither conciliatory nor “diplomatic,” a clear sign that he picks his enemies based on ideological considerations that also drive his choices on how to frame his ventures. Given all of that, why is it unimaginable that George Soros is engaged in a conspiracy, that he is clandestinely behind at least some of the mayhem of Antifa and Black Lives Matter as well as the flood of illegal immigration that have together perhaps fatally destabilized the United States?

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D. is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I once heard the wildest conspiracy theory.

    The claim is that Euro-whites VACUUMED fur fish tobacco cotton sugar gold silver oil bison timber AS FAST AS POSSIBLE so that they — anglos francos belgians dutch spanish portuguese german — could build the STRONGEST possible armies with which to further conquer and subjugate indigenous people of resource rich faraway lands, and with which to SLAUGHTER ONE ANOTHER on land and at sea.

    The CT even says they did this for CENTURIES.

    It even says that when asked why they don’t consider an alternative to the religion of “Kill and grow, or die”, the goto response is: “Us goyim can’t POSSIBLY be expected to legislate and enforce acceptable financial conduct when we are super-majorities. We’re goyim!” which is a fine rallying call to high calibre white men.

  2. For those unfamiliar with the Soros/Israeli/CIA coup in the Republic of Georgia, here is a short video:

    • Thanks: Jazman, Alfred
  3. JasonT says:

    “It would require people a whole lot smarter than the tag team of Trump-Pompeo or even Gates to convince the world and thousands of doctors and scientists that they should lock down entire countries over something completely phony.”

    These, and Soros, are the front men. The real brains are hidden from sight.

  4. Conspiracies abound – no doubt, but what I doubt is that there is some central group in control of it all.

    Life is a shit-storm and a particularly large wad of shit is heading towards the fan. Nefarious cabals attempt to gain the best advantage for themselves, but no one is in control.

    • Agree: SunBakedSuburb
  5. anonymous[233] • Disclaimer says:

    This article is proof that you never retire from CIA. Here Giraldi is on the job, beavering away with jaw-dropping doublethink.

    He undertakes to debunk CIA memo 1035-960 with actual conspiracies, a laudable effort on the face of it. But his ‘actual’ conspiracies are insults to your intelligence, absurd distortions of the overwhelming evidence implicating CIA.

    He represses CIA’s demonstrated command and execution of the coup d’état against JFK, as comprehensively summarized by Douglass (and Salandria and Prouty and Valentine and many others:)

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/jfk-and-the-unspeakable-why-he-died-and-why-it-matters/16273

    He represses the overwhelming open-source evidence of CIA command and execution of 9/11.

    https://www.spyculture.com/clandestime-117-alternative-history-al-qaeda-911-intelligence-failure/

    This is a common tactic among domestic CIA propagandists: skate over unsupported assertions on the way to a separate topic, leaving core CIA doctrine as an unexamined notion picked while you were pondering something else (in this case, the evident verity that George Soros is fulla shit.)

    Credit where credit is due, Giraldi never censors people calling bullshit. But as these researchers point out, it is freeing to acknowledge CIA’s proven impunity and concomitant control of the US. It is possible that collateral has given Giraldi a convincing simulacrum of knowledge about the crimes he cites. But compartmentation is a critical element of CIA criminal enterprise. It makes innocent dupes out of henchmen. Giraldi has yet to unbrainwash himself. His insider knowledge is pure Juche.

  6. A123 says:

    One would be the role of George Soros and the so-called Open Society Foundations that he controls and funds in the unrest that is sweeping across the United States.

    The most powerful Muslim on the planet is George IslamoSoros. Weakening the United States to make it vulnerable to Jihad is part of his concealed Islamic agenda. His programs to import rape-ugees to Europe is a conspiracy to weaken European nations for eventual forced conversion to Islam

    Despite his ancestry, it is proven & indisputable fact that George IslamoSoros is not a practicing Jew. He has jettisoned that faith. He is so anti-Semitic the Jewish people of the Jewish Nation openly warn the world… The IslamoSoros hates Jews and seeks their extermination. (1)

    Financing tied to billionaire activist George Soros is a common yet largely under-reported theme among organizations that lead or support the anti-Semitic Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign attempting to delegitimize the Jewish state.

    In January, Israel released a list of 20 BDS-supporting organizations whose members will be banned from entering Israel due to their BDS activism, prominently featuring six American groups. At least four of the six BDS-promoting U.S. groups receive funding tied to Soros. Scores of other U.S. organizations that support the BDS movement are financed by Soros.

    Useful idiots of Semitic ancestry (a.k.a. Dhimmis) misrepresent Hungary’s position as anti-Jewish, when it is not. Orban’s transgression is refusal to accept Muslim rape-ugees that would destabilize his nation. Accurate understanding of the Muslim threat is the #1 fear of the IslamoSoros, so he sends his Dhimmi minions out to smear and discredit the nation that has seen through his machinations.
    ____

    The author is correct that George IslamoSoros is the key figure in a number of conspiracies. Alas, he has been victimised by disinformation psyops that misrepresent these conspiracies as Jewish.

    witness the Five Dancing Shlomos cavorting and filming themselves in New Jersey as the twin towers went down.

    Except that this never happened. It was fabricated to deceive.

    People on the ground report the TRUTH. Muslims in New Jersey were dancing and celebrating the attack on the Twin Towers (2)

    more than two dozen interviews conducted since Nov. 25, found Trump’s broad assertion that thousands of people cheered to be baseless. At the same time, the inquiry provides the first credible indication of at least two modest celebrations, as described by on-the-record sources who say they witnessed the behavior.

    “When I saw they were happy, I was pissed,” said Ron Knight, 56, a Tonnele Avenue resident who said he heard cries of “Allahu Akbar” as he shouldered his way through a crowd of 15 to 20 people on John F. Kennedy Boulevard that morning.

    ____

    The conspiracies are very real, but the end goal is Jihad. Attempting to derail clandestine operations of The IslamoSoros require understanding his true goals. Be wary, attempts to pit Infidels against each other are part of The IslamoSoros conspiracy.

    Jews, Christians, and all other Infidels must join ranks to defeat this imminent Islamic threat to human freedom.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/01/21/target-israel-george-soros-funded-groups-leading-bds-war-on-jewish-state/

    (2) https://www.nj.com/news/2015/12/exclusive_jersey_city_cop_residents_say_some_musli.html

  7. Instead of fairly distributing the wealth created by globalisation, Soros argued, capitalism’s “winners” failed to “compensate the losers”, which led to a drastic increase in domestic inequality – and anger.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/06/the-george-soros-philosophy-and-its-fatal-flaw

    Sounds like many of the “populists” here.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Ace
  8. A123 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Instead of fairly distributing the wealth created by globalisation, Soros argued, capitalism’s “winners” failed to “compensate the losers”, which led to a drastic increase in domestic inequality – and anger.

    Sounds like many of the “populists” here.

    You cannot trust anything the George IslamoSoros sasys. As a Muslim he is a practitioner of Taqiyya, the Muslim covenant that requires lying to Infidels. (1)

    He says he dislikes inequality. However, his actions import replacement workers increasing inequality. Native workers receive less for their effort, or are forced into the dole. The wealthy get to pay their workers less thus keeping more for themselves.

    When George IslamoSoros speaks, look for the deception and/or hidden agenda.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the-name-of-islam/islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml

    • Agree: zimriel
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  9. KA says:

    Paul Krugman wrote of him that “but actually do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit.”

    Mafia gangster and street thugs wear suits ,fly in chartered planes ,through or without Jeff Espetin blackmail elected officials or kings or sheikhs and invite themselves to talk of clearing the neighborhood’s ideological problems like liberty to screw cat and cat’s owner same time, like hate speech so that the DNA of origin and ideas are not viewed under microscope ,exhort the bribed guests regarding the changing of the draping of the windows so the celebrated gangster wont be seen, identified and even imagined as mafia brigade’s founding member .
    Poor Brooklyn Mafia !.They just never could cross the psychological barriers of stabbing their own benefactors and saviors! What a shame !

  10. Trinity says:

    I know it is just a “conspiracy theory” that people like George Schwartz aka George (((Soros))) are funding these riots, but if this “conspiracy theory” were indeed true, why aren’t Soros and his (((cohorts))) at least under investigation for treason and murder charges. Wasn’t some little Svengali-like character from the late 1960’s named Charles Manson indicted on murder charges because he allegedly brainwashed his hippie followers to go on a two night killing spree in 1969? Manson was charged with first degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder even though he physically wasn’t involved in the Tate-LaBianca murders. How many people (civilian and police) were attacked and murdered during these latest riots? How many were attacked in Ferguson, Baltimore? Who supplied the bricks and food for these “protestors?” After all, one cannot riot, beat up old ladies and pillage without proper nourishment. We all saw the first time with Epstein that some people are above the law and speaking of “conspiracy theories,” Epstein is more than likely roaming the planet as I type this one out. And speaking of Sharon Tate, why is Roman Polanski still roaming about free as a bird?

  11. There is no exit strategy for this haphazard insanity. Once this over-reaction to a fairly innocuous infectious agent was accepted as being necessary, there’s no way to ever declare reversion to normalcy.
    In my opinion, rather than endlessly focussing on this not particularly interesting virus, coming up with creative signboards and banners restricting movement, wrecking people’s livelihoods and painting crosses on the pavement where one must stand, we should have been onto a more obvious problem by now. What if this HAD been a deadly pathogen? Why aren’t we prepared to quickly open special quarantine/treatment centers, disconnected from regular hospitals? And what are we going to do about it?
    This little rehearsal showed how unprepared we are should a real existential threat arise.
    But no, we must instead continue to waste our time, money and effort in playacting that this is a real biological crisis, and creating an actual breakdown in our way of life. We must continue to double down, because if we take ever more extreme action about corona, that will prove that the idiocy we’ve demonstrated thus far was necessary…..right?

    [MORE]

    Given the way corona virus is being handled, one would think we don’t realize that people die quite regularly, especially when they’re in bad condition. Now, we’re practically demanding that nobody should die from catching a microbe – that we should stay home and hold our breath until everyone is guaranteed to survive. Since when have we ever believed that? Is that how we built civilization? The civilization that we’re now destroying?

    There’s little reason for insulin-sensitive people – with healthy immune status and without metabolic disease – to stay home, wear a mask or ‘social distance’ themselves. Since they won’t be getting seriously ill, their staying home wouldn’t help ‘flatten the curve’ of sick people overburdening the healthcare system (as usual, to the expense of all of us). On the contrary, active healthy people can contribute something to the economy.

    The main benefit of herd immunity is that it will allow the country to function again. And that would be good for everyone, healthy and sickly alike. The metabolically/immunologically compromised will be vulnerable to catching the corona virus from anyone who’s contracted it and is temporarily contagious, no matter whether the carrier’s general health is good or poor. And that’s the same fix that people with poor immune function are in, always and everywhere. The answer for protecting these most vulnerable people from COVID – which is only one of the many dangers to their health that they face – can be one of two things; the best one being that they start eating right. And/or, we can build as much equipment and medical facilities, where they’re most needed, as they may require. Either of these solutions is much more viable, less disruptive and less expensive than what we’re doing now. And with either solution, healthier people would no longer be punished for possessing normal human vitality.

    While governments, health agencies and scientists take steps to upgrade the availability of care facilities, equipment and treatments, individuals should follow this
    CORONA VIRUS PROTOCOL
    Part A (Everyone)
    Begin a therapeutic diet to quickly upgrade and regulate the immune system. This consists of, wholly or mostly:
    Home cooked meat, oily fish, eggs (especially yolks), animal fat, bone broth, collagen or gelatin, and liver, and the elimination of corn, soy, canola, safflower, sunflower, grapeseed and rice bran oils as well as flours, sugar and prepared foods.

    Part B (those most at risk for COVID complications- individuals with high BMI or chronic health issues, or taking prescription medications, etc.)
    While following the part A protocol, take reasonable precautions to limit your exposure to possible infection from others, such as limiting time or wearing a mask when in close contact with other people.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Thanks: Anonymousse
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  12. Trinity says:

    Other “conspiracy theories.”

    Charles (((Lieber))) and the (((coronavirus))) * Another COHENcidence?

    The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion ( Seems like everything written has become true?)

    The holocaust has been greatly exaggerated ( What does any sane person think?)

    Moon Landing was a hoax. ( I actually think we did land on the Moon, so I either fell for the lie or don’t buy the “conspiracy theory” aka the truth in most cases.)

    Jews control America. Jews control the media. Jews control the Federal Reserve. ( Judge for yourself.)

    • Replies: @anonymous
  13. AaronInMVD says: • Website
    @john cronk

    The truly disturbing thing is how thoroughly the nonsense was accepted and normalized. Sure, now there’s people recognizing the lockdowns are dumb, but… all they do with this knowledge is talk about it. Lots of talk, little action. The only active pieces on the board are hopping around and trying to do a cultural revolution and proceeding with an absolute poverty of energy.

    This might be the most sedentary collapse ever. The world is taking a hard turn towards a prolonged dark age and… for the lack of reaction it seems people are just going with the flow. Welcome to the future. A little bit of 1984, a heavy dose of Idiocracy, and a whole bunch of pudgy kids trying to live out their Harry Potter headcanon.

    Nevermind all the attention given to “Black Lives” while Black voices (Lest we forget the ‘Shaun King is transracial’ scandal of not long ago) are shut out of the conversation… Nonsense reigns!

  14. Eighthman says:

    I don’t find any explanation of 9/11 to be credible. In particular, if Israel did it, how did they coordinate the suicide jihadis on the planes?

  15. In this article on conspiracy theories the author references the increasing tension between Russia and the West. Moscow has “no desire to pursue the sort of global agenda that was characteristic of the Soviet state”, he says. That may be so. Yet today the two sides are closer to the war of annihilation they avoided in the cold war. Although they have fewer nuclear weapons they are nearer the existential threat that would force their use. Russia (from its perspective) is less secure – it has no buffer zone. This is not fake news or conspiracy theory, but the pattern of history.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Rev. Spooner
    , @A123
  16. “Sounds like many of the “populists” here.”

    I am not a populist. But the contention (s) you are referring to are no really the argument — not by content.

    The argument is that the suppose winners were and continue unfairly leverage the economic system with the help f government to avoid the consequences of their miscalculations, sometimes innocent, often careless and sometimes deliberate machinations.

    That is quite a different argument than the winners should share more —

    And as much as a capitalist as I am am — I admit that there are goings on which violate the rules of capitalism as well as common decency.

  17. Regarding 9-11.

    In 2001 I used to take the Q58 Bus to Flushing, Queens.

    At the last stop, I forget the street, it was a slow go. Cars double-parked; cars waiting for people; etc. As the Q58 slowly progressed. There was a sign on a building, which was adjacent to a take-out restaurant where pig carcasses would hang from a hook.

    A sign on the building stated: Taliban Mission to the United Nationss.

    In August 2001, it was gone. The Taliban Mission to the United States had decamped.

    I wondered where The Taliban Mission to the United Nations had gone. On 9-11 I knew where.

    Al Qaeda had flown into The World Trade Center.

    Is someone going to tell me that the Federal Bureau of Investigation, NASA, the CIA had never monitored the Taliban Mission?

    I had a friend, who was an attorney (now deceased). He was born in the United States of Chinese descent. He would tell me: The Government knew what was going on.

    Thank You.

    Edward Manfredonia

    • Replies: @mcohen
  18. @anonymous

    You got it. Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere. That’s why you can say whatever you want. They want you to express yourself freely. For the record.

    I like how he blames Cuba for Kennedy. Harhar. But even better is how he is a China-did-itter. That is the mark, the true stigma, the true shibboleth, of officially-sanctioned propaganda.

  19. A123 says:
    @peter mcloughlin

    Moscow has “no desire to pursue the sort of global agenda that was characteristic of the Soviet state”, he says. That may be so. Yet today the two sides are closer to the war of annihilation they avoided in the cold war.

    I respectfully disagree.

    Under the Trump Administration, Russia & the U.S. are farther away from war than they have ever been. Putin and Trump have good relations even in the face of the fake RussiaGate investigation.

    Putin’s egregious error supporting SJW Globalist Germany over the Christians of Poland is an obvious policy failure. Because Trump stands against Germany’s Globalist agression, Russia is receiving some pain over their service to the SJW Elites. Most notably the SJW Nordstream 2 pipeline, which Germany portrays as a Triumph of Their Will.

    However, there does not seem to be any conspiracy effort to trigger a war on the Poland-Germany front. The border is too well defined & observed, unlike China-India.
    ____

    If Biden and the NeoConDemocrats win, things could go sideways in a hurry. However, DNC warmongering is also not a conspiracy. The SJW Globalist DNC openly yearns for a policy of foreign interventions. And, the Biden family has much to personally gain by intervening in Ukraine on behalf of Burisma investors and other 1% Elites.

    It is no secret that Biden will sell out the U.S. for private gain. Everyone who wants peace needs to vote for Trump in November.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  20. I didn’t know that Soros could be so explicit about what he thinks about Putin and Syria and involve himself so concretely with such questions, about which he probably doesn’t know very much (in the last times there have been very interesting articles about Syria, for instance, see links below).

    Even though, I don’t think that he has anything to do with BLM and the protests. Riots and revolts have happened other times without the coordination of people from outside. It happened in 1381 in England. A few years ago it happened in the UK and earlier it happened in the US, (I think when there was a blackout). Now it happened spontaneously in Stuttgart in Germany (apparently).

    Why shouldn’t people complain about the militarisation of the police which uses brutal methods to arrest people, a police which acts as if they had occupaied a country and had to contain a population of enemies?

    The most recent conspiracy was the one to oust Corbyn (the text is relatively short):

    The killing of Jeremy Corbyn
    Peter Oborne and David Hearst

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/killing-jeremy-corbyn

    The former Labour leader was the victim of a carefully planned and brutally executed political assassination

    About Syria, an important text by an expert, long:

    The Salafist Roots of the Syrian Uprising
    by William Van Wagenen

    https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/the-salafist-roots-of-the-syrian-uprising/

    Syria: Old Pretexts, New Sanctions, Still Counterproductive
    by Bas Spliet

    https://original.antiwar.com/Bas_Spliet/2020/06/18/syria-old-pretexts-new-sanctions-still-counterproductive/

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse, Iris
    • Replies: @Gapeseed
  21. Duke84 says:

    There’s never been any credible evidence that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy or that anyone other then Oswald was involved.He owned both murder weapons.

  22. @04398436986

    I do not get the point, please explain further.

  23. @anonymous

    Agreed. I call it the “bend”. The authors veer of somehow from the line to end up where they have a personal interest and agenda. Always far more banal then the incursion. In this case not only what you refer at so well, but also, again and again insisting on the importance of the elections(indirectly, Trump, Trump, Trump).

  24. How disappointing that Giraldi is a covid conspiracy theory denialist, meaning that he is part of the conspiracy! Hey, Bill Gates, Zuckergberg, Bezos, Sergie Brinn, Larry Page, etc… have all made more money than they could ever possibly spend in their life times off of everyone!

    [MORE]

    Obviously, the governments, and corporations are sick of being embarrassed for their fraud, in addition to the education system, rendering them obsolete, and by and large exposed as total frauds!

    No that they have extracted as much as is humanly possible from 7 billion people, they are attempting everyone to volunatarily disconnect and beg the government to shut them down for predation and 5-G. The industries are not willing to confess that Wi-Fi is a far more serious health hazzard than covid.

    Obama issued a space weather warning in October 2016, and everytime the psychopaths get embarrassed, rumors of Chinese EMPs start making the rounds, but the Cloud is stored in thousands of satellites, and Elon Musk has been blasting mini satellites off into space as if the clock is running out!

    Fiber optic cable is also unaffected by EMPs!

    How do you get world and corporate leaders that all have proven to absolutely despise each other that have conflicting interests all to agree on something? Tell them that they will shut the internet down, which removes political dissent and exposure of their fraud and crimes!

    You can either believe me, or Giaraldi, Kiriakou, Galloway, and the others!

    Let the evidence stand! You decide!

    The evidence has proven that the covid deaths and cases have been drastically overstated, because hospitals were bribed $13,000 a patient to diagnos them with covid, and $39,000 to place people on ventilators, that covid is no less threatening than the flu, that the testing is extremely inaccurate, that the lock downs cause more health problems than the virus, and that there is no need for a vaccine! More medical professionals and scientists have stated that than those who have been paid to defend the lies! The same glorified drug dealers responsible for the opioid epidemic cannot be expected to simply be believed as credible individuals!

    • Agree: Iva
    • Replies: @Iva
  25. God bless you, Philip Giraldi, Ph.D. Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.

    • Agree: Ace
  26. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anonymous

    “This article is proof that you never retire from CIA. Here Giraldi is on the job, beavering away with jaw-dropping doublethink.”

    I believe the correct term is “limited hangout”, or maybe “controlled opposition”.

    You might want to take at the article just posted at this very site:
    “CIA Project MK-ULTRA”: https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/cia-project-mk-ultra/

    Regards, onebornfree

  27. anonymous[500] • Disclaimer says:

    (TS/SCI/SKANKPROBOSCIS) Hey speaking of real conspiracy theories, anybody up for a pool on how long it takes Ghislaine to negotiate the plea deal to: (1) blame CIA’s big pedo blackmail op on Mossad; (2) get swapped to Israel for Ben Zygier’s living-dead zombie; (3) turn over the juiciest John Roberts cherry tapes.

  28. anon[818] • Disclaimer says:

    Soros seems to be in relatively good health for 89. Seems like he may be around for a while longer, and one of his sons seems eager to emulate him.

    Covid: I guess its a coincidence that covid has kept the rest of the world at bay while our Deep State and its allies try and run a color revolution here in America. The masks demanded by covid makes it hard to identify rioters also, and encourages them because they feel like they have anonymity. Thats two more fortuitous coincidences. I mean if it weren’t for coranachan in other nations, our burning of our own cities might have led China to move in the South China Sea thinking were were preoccupied, and the Russians to move in the Ukraine thinking we were preoccupied. Hell, Iran and Venezuela might even make some aggressive moves if they to weren’t dealing with Corona. Funny that. Especially all in an election year. I guess the Deep State just got lucky there.

    • Replies: @A123
  29. A123 says:
    @anon

    Soros seems to be in relatively good health for 89. Seems like he may be around for a while longer, and one of his sons seems eager to emulate him.

    You are correct. Unlike the Murdoch family, who are slowly sapping Fox News of its vitality. The Soros brood seem eager to follow in his footsteps. Alex Soros is a highly visible acolyte of SJW Globalism: (1)

    Soros’s son is now emerging from the shadows, poised to carry on his father’s global destabilisation legacy.

    Like his father, Alex Soros is a progressive liberal who believes it is his duty to destroy nation states, do away with traditional family values, and expunge Christianity from the face of the earth.

    After his father passes away and he gets the money, perhaps Alex will mellow like the Murdoch kin. However, there are no signs pointing to such an outcome at this point.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    Photos of Alex Soros with many DNC politicians below (more)

  30. ‘…In fact, creating the humanitarian disaster that has turned almost 6 million Syrians into refugees has not been a byproduct of the Russian president’s strategy in Syria. It has been one of his central goals…’

    Surely, that was Israel’s objective — and consequently ours — not Russia’s?

    Certainly we sought to reduce Syria to anarchy. One of Hillary Clinton’s emails as much as admits this.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  31. ‘… the flood of illegal immigration that have together perhaps fatally destabilized the United States…’

    There was a curious episode that was never explained. Back in 2019, thousands of deserving refugees set out from Honduras to walk to the United States. Their trek was covered very sympathetically, right up to when they tried to enter the US and were (brutally, of course) turned back.

    These were mothers with small children, etc, all setting out to the US. You must remember the pictures. And surprisingly quickly, they turned up at the border — having walked all the way, or at least most of it, according to the BBC et al.

    There was just one problem. I remember looking up the distance of the trek and calculating what their daily progress must have been. They averaged around sixty miles per day, if I recall aright. Over a multi-thousand mile trek, your basic mother with small children would be very hard-pressed to average ten miles a day, even assuming no need to stop and find food, etc. It should have taken the average trekker the better part of a year; and yet there they were, at the US border, mere weeks after setting out.

    Obviously, they must have been loaded on buses, not merely on occasion, but for the bulk of the trip.

    Fine — but who paid for the buses? Who organized and funded this armada? After all, we’re talking about hiring a fleet of something around a hundred vehicles, each to drive two thousand miles or so (and presumably back home again). That’s not cheap.

  32. It’s worth noticing that throughout history there has always been a conspiracy, an invisible person behind the scenes pulling to strings and calling the shots. We might call him Rot-Schild or Giorgi Black today, but once they called him Yahweh.

  33. Owen C. says:
    @A123

    Drumpf saying that it was Muslims dancing instead of jews doesn’t make them any less jewish.

    • Agree: Moi
  34. Vidalus says:

    I will testify as to my hypothesis Allan Dulles was the organizer of the hit on JFK, and that CIA operatives took out RFK five years later, if I get deposed as an “expert witness” after all our history has been memory holed, and truther books have been banned. (Coming to a country formerly known as a Western democracy)

    Those who have the privilege to know have the duty to act
    – Albert Einstein
    As much as I like Giraldi calling out Zionist sins, he obfuscates the nature and insidiousness of SARS-CoV-2 and tries to blame JFK’s murder on Cuba & Israel. Comment #5 calls out his error by omission of CIA’s role in the November 22 assassination. As I always say, Whom does the CIA serve??? The Dulles Bros have been serving multinational corporations (United Fruit in central America, for example, and rich banksters) since the 1920’s and Allan may have been a channel to pass financial support to Hitler via Swiss banks during WWII. The Zionist and Saudi connections to 9/11 are many and worthy of lengthy investigations…I think Giraldi might have done better sticking to false pretenses that got us into Vietnam and Iraq

    • Replies: @anon
  35. anon[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Jewish conspiracies – recent example “Jews, Christians, and all other Infidels must join ranks to defeat this imminent Islamic threat to human freedom”

    Jewish went to the His Majesty ,Kaiser , to Sultan, to Queen,to Kaiser and promised the moon, bounty, high finances for construction, of railroads, ports and reduction of threats from inside or outside propaganda as would be necessary in the prevailing existing contexts respectively . Eventually the moon was delivered by Balfour and Llyod and later Churchill in the from of USA entering the wars . Moon got dark and then slipped away as Churchill coached by the same Jewish conspirators asked him to say “”I have not become the King’s First Minister in order to preside over the liquidation of the British Empire.” so that he actually can liquidate the empire .

    Jewish conspirators sent by Netanyhuuu entered Bush Cabinet through the paid and bribed paranoid Cheney and congress .Then they wrecked the country using the template written by the Jewish for Netanyhuuuuu in PNAC document . The used the dancing and Art student and the Urban Moving of D Sutter to let the FBI know who was the boss, but untouchable behind 911 and later Anthrax . They got the war they called WW3 and hoped for WW4 after getting big WW1 and WW2 .

    Then they play good cop and bad cop to Trump kept on leash like a dog by Kushner . Israeli cops tell him he is doing a good job Domestic cops from ADL and CNN,MSNBC , Democrats and from NYT , BBC say -you should leave and not come back and you should be impeached . Now they have floated Russian bounty against him. Then the cops go to the synagogue and pat each other on the back for the works done so far . Then they plan more . Here Soros and Haim Sabvan and dinosaur looking two gorilla cadaver of depraved twins – from Sheldon family put the seal of the approval. They confirm the need for continued pressure to get the dirty works done by Trump . By doing these anti American things, he will save himself from impeachment because inpelac ament talk will be focussed on stupid lies easily discernible . They also make sure thatt the dirty works done by him is not abrogated by Biden ( they made sure good works done by Obama-Biden get discarded by Trump )

    They remind the new appointee and new arrivee and new delegate “ we dont talk of illegal hurtful anti American activities like American support on Jerusalem or West Bank or Embassy on Golan Height or on expulsion or for conducting wars against Syria or Gaza . we dont talk of increasing money coming from USA we dont talk about military supplies reaching us from USA we dont talk of US helps in case we attack Iran or rescue Sisi from popular will We talk that at home in Israel. Here in USA we talk of – blah blah blah blah and more blah like illegal muslim ban or wall or Russian bounty , we talk of Hongkong but not of Kashmir , we talk of Xi not Modi , we talk China and Russia not India . WE talk of stealing Covid PEP at home not here in USA”

  36. Truth3 says:

    Israel clearly knew it (9/11) was coming…

    The understatement of the millenium.

    Phil Giraldi is a treasure. Wit on top of Truth. Gotta love it.

    • LOL: Dumb4asterisks
  37. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vidalus

    To find the links between Kennedy assassination and Israel -Zionist ,one has to unlock k the mystery of the murderer of Jack Ruby, LBJ’s association with Jews in TX and with supreme court jewish judge . One has to look into the demands made by Kennedy on Israel’s Ben Gurion . One has to bring in the designation battle around Jewish agencies around same time – foreign lobby or not .

    Mossad used the troubled waters to fish big . Kennedy was thertaenin g banks CIA and burgeoning military industrial complex . They did not kill CIA couldn’t have done it without Mossad . CIA knew it . James Angleton was working with Mossad

    Past contact with Hitler or Nazi was no barrier for either Mossad or CIA to work together or agisnt each other . Those kind of barriers matter in personal friendships and for scoring points on TV or in Town Hall debates .

  38. @Eighthman

    Have you heard of fly by wire tech? That tech is 40 years old. These planes that crashed into WTC 1 and 2 were rigged to respond to remote controllers. That was the reason the failed Arab pilots were shown as passengers. They were patsies, just as helpless as the real pilots and passengers who had no control over the plane. These jets were remotely controlled, hence the surprise that the failed Arabs did such a great job.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Wizard of Oz
    , @Ace
  39. @peter mcloughlin

    Never trust @123 ever. He is an Israeli troll and pushes zionist agenda. Even when he says black is black and white is white, he does it because it serves his purpose.
    With respect and peace

    • Agree: Truth3, Moi, L.K
    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  40. AWM says:

    It should be obvious that Soros and the rest of these murderous globalists are under protection by the “Deep State” in all it’s Intelligence Agency forms all over the world because otherwise someone would have already blown the motherfucker away.
    Face it, if Putin really wanted him dead, he would be dead. Period.
    Old Vlad isn’t stupid, he already made himself ruler for life just like I said he would, otherwise the next goon would steal everything he has got.

  41. A123 says:
    @peter mcloughlin

    Never trust Mullah Spooner. He is a paid Iranian shill who openly lies for his sociopathic Ayatollah.

    If Mullah Spooner tells the truth, you can be sure it is purely by accident.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Truth3, Moi, Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Truth3
  42. Epstein brought CIA drug smugglers Southern Air Transport to Columbus. Epstein at Bear Stearns ran brokerage errands for the CIA money launderers and pimps of BCCI. Epstein bragged about being CIA and Ohio state VIPs believed him. Epstein skated for the Tower Financial ponzi scheme that topped up CIA’s covert-crime slush fund after CIA proprietary BCCI stole everybody’s money and blew up. Epstein got bankrolled by CIA’s famous secret agent Adnan Kashoggi. Epstein smuggled an enormously illegal NYPD shotgun in through British customs, using CIA agent Ed Wilson’s old trick for impressing foreign VIPs. Federal prosecutors convict 99.8% of their perps, but one let Epstein off the hook for his giant pedo whorehouse because he was told Epstein belonged to intelligence.

    You would not have thought it was possible, but Epstein with his hilariously fake hedge fund is more blatantly CIA than Imran Awan. So clearly we need six thousand more internet bullshitters screaming about pervy Mossad blackmailers – CIA is hopelessly busted for everybody with a 3-digit IQ.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  43. Meena says:

    “ Wall Street Journal reported Friday that following the drone strike on Soleimani last week, Trump told unspecified associates “he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate.”
    http://www.commindreams.org

    From any angle ,this will look like a conspiracy . But talking about it to portray the existential crisis of USA politics ,a science of checks and balances, media responsibility and the mechanism in place to make this sort of events to happen will be labeled as conspiracy theory .

    What is this.?
    1 Impeachable offense
    2 who will raise the issue? Media, Congress, Government agencies and activist judges .
    They don’t why ?
    3 Who will investigate ? Dept of Justice.
    Why they don’t ?

    4 would it be a conspiracy theory had Trump not shared the quid pro quo? Absolutely .

    5 who is keeping quiet on the initiation of war illegal war to gain personal favor by Trump and who is asking war on Iran ? Same gaggle of smiley faces – Bolton to Kristol to Cotton to Lindsey to Pelosi to Biden to Sherman Engle , Schumer , Cheney( the cow ) , sage Bush jr, Hillary and same gallery of rogues like NYT BBC CNN FOX MSNBC .

    6 is there a possibility of a war initiated by Trump to make last ditch effort to win election? Yes.

    Bolton recently and , Deniis Ross have suggested to Obama to get out of bad poll number before ,
    Economist Rubiono has suggested before as was shared by zerohedge sometimes back.

    7 Why does conspiracy theory keep on returning ? Because the first appearance is never pushed back exposed and vilified by any body .
    8 How do one evaluate and understand the fate accompli ? They don’t . They shrug and move on as they did after Suleimnai killing and wait for next disavowal of any “conspiracy theory before confidently shrugging off the fait accompli.

    9 What do you call them? Zombie human slaving away their lives
    to harakiri.

  44. Geowhizz says:

    So Soros broke the pound back in the day. Why did MI5 not kill him?

  45. FB says: • Website
    @Rev. Spooner

    Remote control over the aircraft is actually the most plausible scenario…

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  46. Jorge Videla [AKA "ODESSA"] says:

    AND…

    for those who have read soros’s own explanations of how he made his fortune…

    HE’S LYING!

    BUT…

    i presume cuba and israel didn’t conspire and didn’t need to. oswald acted alone or…the mob did it, like hollywood “told” us.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  47. zimriel says:

    “credibly credited to …”
    i.e., “the consensus rejects this, except for some cranks which are the ones I’ll choose to believe”. Similar rhetorical trick to Kavanagh being “credibly accused” when he was not. The author gets extra kook points for not linking to the (counter)evidence to what Bugliosi marshalled in “Case Closed”.
    Unlike the author, I dropped a name.
    And I also dropped this article, because Giraldi once again reveals himself as a propagandist with no credibility.

  48. @JasonT

    Agree.

    Giraldi lost credibility when he went full-faith-believer in and defender of the CV-19 scam. At the time he used the same lame “It would require blah, blah, blah to convince thousands of doctors and scientists and governments to blah, blah, blah.

    A stunning lack of discernment.

  49. @Colin Wright

    but who paid for the buses? Who organized and funded this armada?

    Why don’t the CIA, FBI, NSA tell us? I guess it must be classified “TOP SECRET”.

  50. anon[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    This article is proof that you never retire from CIA. Here Giraldi is on the job, beavering away with jaw-dropping doublethink.

    Nail meets hammer.

  51. Truth3 says:
    @A123

    A123 again shows his real self.

    Jewish antisocial psychopath asshole sophist.

    • Agree: Moi
  52. @Rev. Spooner

    What went wrong with the one that crashed in Pennsylvania and do you have a theory about where WTC 7 fitted in?

  53. @Geowhizz

    Why would they? What part of MI5’s role would that be part of?

  54. PG, I see you as an acceptably moderate speculator about possible conspiracies. A pity you have provoked such a swarm of maddies.

    Allow me two questions.
    1. Where do I find the neocons beating up the idea of Iran as a threat to the US – which I agree is nonsense except in the sense that the Iranians could attack Israel and trigger a response from Israel’s greatest ally;
    2. What is the best evidence for the true story of the 5 dancing shlomo and what happened later? I agree that, as you tell it, it is very good evidence of Israeli foreknowledge of an unacceptable kind.

  55. Bert says:
    @another fred

    No one is in complete control. But some groups are more in control than others.
    All conspiracists risk becoming an exemplar of Hosea’s Law, Hosea 8:7: “they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.”

  56. @A123

    Ha ha ha. This is so transparent. Suggest you change your user-name.

  57. Thomasina says:

    I’ve often wondered about Soros. Was he a wealthy man before he “broke the Bank of England”?

    I’ve also wondered how it is possible that someone like Soros would have been allowed to break the Bank of England. Was it just a set-up to provide him with plausible funds in order to make him look legit?

    He gets written up as some ideological billionaire who acts in accordance with his conscience, but to me he looks like he’s working for the ruling elites and the CIA.

    Truly benevolent people (which I’m sure Soros is not) don’t go around causing the chaos he does.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  58. Anon[413] • Disclaimer says:

    There are many videos about Soros’ purported influence on world events but very few books. An interesting one is “Soros rompiendo España” by an internationalist and academic of the Universidad Complutense of Madrid.

    It badly needs an editor to make it less boring, but it traces and documents Soros financing and tactics in the case of Cataluña. Basically creating NGOs to mobilize civil society to a pitch, while providing content and tactics. Creating grass roots pressure to change policy and break up one of Europes oldest nation-states. Such a network has the advantage of flexibility, it can ebb and flow as required.

    What is different from Europe’s 19th Century instability? Well, that one’s to ponder. But it seems to me it is:
    1) independent of Perfidious Albion or any central government. Unless it’s Bilderberg, of course.
    2) requires no high level assassinations (king and prime minister of Italy, King and Queen of Serbia, multiple Habsburgs, etc). Orban and Salvini are alive and well. Trump will lose, but continue playing golf.
    3) not about the self-determination of oppressed peoples, that is, not about nationhood.

    There seem to be non-stop programming exercises to achieve and direct mass activism across the West: immigration into Europe and US, Cataluña protests, green St Greta protest, feminist protests, Covid confinement, BLM. These last four, in the past TWO years. The generational divide cemented during Covid is something to watch, I’ve seen videos in French and Spanish about the “life lessons” of the pandemic that seed this idea.

    The next step in this Ordo ab Chaos stumps me.

    • Thanks: Iris
  59. The only conspiracy is Americans telling themselve America isn’t gay to the core and hasn’t been from its beginning.

    Conspiring is the norm. The jews do it and Soros does play his side of the sandwich.
    Just break your American Shit Sandwich up. Sort people along their ethnic order.
    Have a Spaniard America in the west. A Franko Buffer. The good Americans in the Middle & East and send the Anglo Hellspawn to Canada.

  60. Gordo says:
    @Geowhizz

    So Soros broke the pound back in the day. Why did MI5 not kill him?

    I don’t know the answer but the correct question is ‘Why did MI6 not kill him?’

  61. @04398436986

    They are still yapping about muh ww2. They will never take responsibility.

    Which is why their extermination is well deserved.

    • Agree: Ghan-buri-Ghan
  62. @A123

    You have no idea what is coming for you, kikes.

  63. @Wizard of Oz

    Where do I find the neocons beating up the idea of Iran as a threat to the US – which I agree is nonsense except in the sense that the Iranians could attack Israel and trigger a response from Israel’s greatest ally;

    There is no chance that Iran would attack them unless as a direct answer to an attack by them. As to the neoconservative, why don’t you use google? It may not give all results, but some:

    The neoconservative push for war with Iran is not in the American people’s interest
    By Philip Weiss

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/05/neoconservative-american-interest/

    And, some results from the first two pages, I haven’t read them now:

    – The neoconservative fantasy at the center of the Soleimani killing

    – How the Neocon Plan to Destabilize Iran Will Blow Back on the United States

    – Neocons Won’t Stop Until They Get Their War With Iran

    – Op-Ed: The neocons: They’re back, and on Iran, they’re uncompromising as ever

    – The Neoconservative Obsession with Iran

    – Is Tehran Back in the Crosshairs of the Neocon Crusade?

    – Next Stop, Tehran: The Neoconservative Campaign for War in Iran

    About the other theme you ask about, I don’t believe that it’s possible to investigate it properly, but anyway:

    – 5 Israelis Detained for Puzzling Behavior’ After WTC Tragedy (Yossi Melman, Haaretz)

    – Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 .. (the Herald)

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  64. Some say that Soros is a Rothschild agent, just as Wilbur Ross is claimed to be by others, and the Bank of England is most likely the Nathan Rothschild agent, therefore, a question arises: how can an operative of an outfit be the buster of that very outfit? It’s like saying a pizza parlor owned by the mafia was cleaned out of pies by one of its very own goons. It’s nothing but megalomania in Jewish mind … just as they like to say that Zuckerberg was the kid who turned down a billion dollars when he was still in the diapers. It’s all a crock of horse manure!

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  65. Herald says:
    @JasonT

    I’m rather sad that Giraldi has taken to acting as gatekeeper for those that are perpetrating the monstrous coronavirus hoax.

    Nobody with half a brain would suggest that Trump was behind this massive fraud and clearly the floundering Trump is a victim here, as are the rest of us. The real pity is that Trump does not have the clout to see off these evil hoaxsters, even if he were minded to do so.

    The frontman for the real “tag team” is eugenicist Bill Gates. It is Gates’s manic crusade to vaccinate the world, that is the next major plank in this diabolical plan. Gates’s hardly tested and liability free vaccine will have nothing to do with offering protection from the ephemeral coronavirus and will be all about depopulation.

    Only the foolhardy and ultra gullible will roll up their sleeves for the genocidal injection.

    • Replies: @JasonT
  66. geokat62 says:
    @A123

    Despite his ancestry, it is proven & indisputable fact that George IslamoSoros is not a practicing Jew. He has jettisoned that faith. He is so anti-Semitic the Jewish people of the Jewish Nation openly warn the world… The IslamoSoros hates Jews and seeks their extermination.

    George Schwartz in his own words:

    “I am not a Zionist, nor am I am a practicing Jew, but I have a great deal of sympathy for my fellow Jews and a deep concern for the survival of Israel.”

    Direct quote from On Israel, America and AIPAC (The New York Review of Books, April 12, 2007)

    https://www.georgesoros.com/2007/

  67. anon[261] • Disclaimer says:

    Meena, the other interesting thing about the Soleimani attack: it let CIA keep Trump busy at the crucial point when COVID-19 was taking off from the ankle of the curve. That let the plague get out of hand and stuck Trump with his most inescapable failure.

    Everything CIA does has multiple motives. In this case they get to whack a wog, increasing tensions and demand in their Mideast arms entrepot. But the clever timing cripples their insubordinate puppet ruler.

    This is your job as a CIA puke: run around with a stick whacking every hornets’ nest and yelling, “Wasps!” They fuck up the world for fun and profit.

  68. Gapeseed says:
    @UncommonGround

    Even though, I don’t think that he has anything to do with BLM and the protests.

    Clearly, the rioters were trained and highly coordinated from on high due to superior tactics, logistics, communications and the like. Given his capabilities, links to education for a steady supply of shock troops, and past behavior, Soros is fairly considered a prime suspect.

  69. Fred777 says:

    Putin is supposed to be an evil genius bent on reconstituting the Soviet Union and world domination. Yet he can’t even get rid of Soros or Browder.

  70. DanFromCT says:

    I had to stop reading. It’s too early in the morning to go past the assertion that incompetence restrains conspiracy when the it’s the incompetence of conspirators that exposes the mentioned events as conspiracies in fact.

  71. Moi says:
    @A123

    Bonkers. You and Bolton should combine forces.

  72. Sparkon says:
    @FB

    Remote control or not, an aluminum-skinned jetliner like a 767 cannot and did not fly through the steel box columns on the exterior of the Twin Towers at the WTC on 9/11.


    Image: The Sun
    737 of Badr Airlines flight J4341

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4543186/bird-strike-boeing-737-sudan/#

    For those who may not know, steel is much stronger than any bird.

  73. KA says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Very difficult to find any evidence either for 1 or 2 .

    I am still looking for evidence that supports 1 that US has been giving free money each year , protecting Israel militarily, and diplomatically and 2 evidence that anyone or any body has ever expressed any anti semitism in Europe at anytime from 400 AD until now.
    Of course Jews expressing anti -Ottoman thought would have provoked massive verbal innuendo from muslim ally in Russia.

    Do you have any reliable evidences for 1 and 2 ?

  74. @UncommonGround

    Thank you but I would pay a premium on my UR subscription to have PG tell me which sources he relies on to connect neo cons (and which ones) to propaganda for taking on Iran.

  75. Z-man says:

    Soros particularly hates President Vladimir Putin and Russia.

    On this ‘theory’ my first and most important proof is easy to understand but hard to prove like a good calculus problem.
    Soros is a member of the Tribe.
    Tribe = Cabal.
    Cabal = They.
    ‘They’ hate Vladimir first and foremost because he re-established and promoted Christian Orthodoxy as the de facto state religion of Mother Russia. Easy to understand, hard to prove.
    A subset to this ‘theory’ of hatred is that Russia is the most Christian and whitest nation left. Also easy to understand and, especially with regard to race, easier to prove.

    • Agree: Anonymousse
    • Replies: @Anon
  76. @Rev. Spooner

    And the same goes for Rev Spooner, and Truth3, and FB and almost everyone here. I should know.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  77. geokat62 says:

  78. Mefobills says:
    @another fred

    Nefarious cabals attempt to gain the best advantage for themselves, but no one is in control.

    The common factor is in-groups trying to credit themselves and in-debt others. Religion and law is perverted to their ends.

    Disputation of Paris in 1240 proved that Talmud was a conspiracy.

    Hitler kicked out Free-Mason’s and Kahal Jews, who were “secretly” conspiring.

    Plutocracy is another conspiracy of usually landed owners, attempting to credit themselves the earth while extracting from serfs (labor).

    Cabals and in-groups conspiring is the condition of man, which is why in previous centuries Kings were trained from birth to maneuver around the cabals.

    People that think conspiracies are a joke, are not paying attention.

  79. I can not understand the mentioning of Saudi hijackers in regards to 911 as no planes hit the towers and John Lear is on record that no planes were used and he is not alone in this belief, Israel and the traitors in the ZUS government did 911, and to see how they did it , go to drjudywood.com and wheredidthetowersgo.com<

    The latest conspiracy is the coronavirus scam and this is the biggest scam and psyop ever pulled off on humanity in history.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  80. ariadna says:
    @Duke84

    Of course it was Oswald acting alone. Anyone with common sense knows that as surely as we (people with common sense) know that the moon is not made of green cheese — you don’t even need a telescope, just use binoculars to see its granular surface and you’ll see it is ricotta.

    • Replies: @Duke84
  81. KA says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    GARY LEUPP

    Now that Canada’s National Post has apologized for the disinformational article about Iran it published on its front page last Friday, one should inquire as to how this happened in the first place. The Post had reported that on May 15, the Iranian Parliament had passed a law establishing “separate dress codes for religious minorities, Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, who will have to adopt distinct colour schemes to make them identifiable in public. The new codes would enable Muslims to easily recognize non-Muslims so that they can avoid shaking hands with them by mistake, and thus becoming najis (unclean).”

    But what led Taheri to produce a sensationalistic piece, drawing immediate damning comment from Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormick, and Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles? – Gary Leupp.

    also- from same author Taheri is after all a man of apparently impeccable journalistic credentials. He’s been Middle East editor for the London Sunday Times, has written for The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Mail,, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Newsday, The Washington Post, Die Welt, Der Spiegel, He regularly comments on CNN.

    Taheri contributes to the National Review He and these colleagues have repeatedly urged a U.S. attack to produce regime change in Iran.

    BUT I SEE YOUR wordings – “except in the sense that the Iranians could attack Israel and trigger a response from Israel’s greatest ally;” are so relevant – “rom Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormick, and Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angele” all manufacturing chorus of condemnation .

  82. Skeptikal says:

    I am very surprised at this article from Giraldi.

    He is smarter than this. So what is he really getting at?

    His premises and logic are all over the place.

    This whole article consists of setting up a series of straw men before he finally gets around to training his searchlight on George Soros.

    Total misdirection.

    But also, a wasted effort, horse/barn door category. The world now understands perfectly well what Soros has been up to and where his “sympathies” lie and have always lain. And the harm that he has done.

    So I think the point of this assay by Giraldi is twofold:
    (1) To direct attention away from the actual “conspiracy theories”—-that is, actual conspiracies—that are *currently running* and that are being revealed by truly great investigative reporting by, for example, James Corbett (on Bill Gates) and Whitney Webb (on the corporate-military-“public” consortium driving the vaccine/population control program—her latest contribution now up at Last American Vagabond);

    (2) to do this by means of trying include readers on the wink-wink “joke” that of course we all agree that these are silly conspiracy theories. It is interesting that for each scenario Giraldi highlights the least probable theory as explanatory of the event (e.g., the JFK assassination; 9/11).

    Giraldi is definitely multitasking here—killing, or attempting to kill, numerous birds with one stone (the article). That may be why the piece is a total mishmash, loaded with obvious rhetorical devices.

    One can only speculate on why he has written this. Has he gotten too close to the bone regarding Zionist control of the USA and the international political narrative, and now has to bank some “cred” to satisfy . . . someone?

    Whatever his reasons, I see collateral damage for Giraldi among his fans here and elsewhere (at least, with me!). This illogical mess has the effect of considerably degrading Giraldi’s credibility, both factually and ethically.

    *Plus, how stupid does he think his readers are?*

    Even for what it is, it is messily and amateurishly done.

    Is that maybe the point? Who knows.

  83. KA says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Michael Massing, who has done exemplary reporting on AIPAC for the New York Review of Books, quoted a congressional staffer as saying, “We can count on well over half the House — 250 to 300 members — to do reflexively whatever AIPAC wants.” In unguarded moments, even top AIPAC figures have confirmed such claims. The New Yorker’s Jeffrey Goldberg quoted Steven Rosen, AIPAC’s former foreign-policy director who is now awaiting trial on charges of passing top-secret Pentagon information to Israel, as saying, “You see this napkin? In twenty-four hours, we could have the signatures of seventy senators on this napkin.” https://www.salon.com/2007/03/20/aipac_2/

    Both Greenwald and Yglesias, for example, punctured a classic attempt by the Jewish establishment to smear Gen. Wesley Clark, who, saying that he feared that Bush might be preparing to attack Iran, added, “The Jewish community is divided but there is so much pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office seekers.” Clark was immediately — and predictably — accused of being anti-Semitic for referring to “the New York money people” and implying they wanted war with Iran. But as both Yglesias and Greenwald pointed out,everything Clark said was demonstrably true.

    Adding insult to injury, Greenwald proved it was true by citing such right-wing, pro-Israel media sources as the New York Sun and the New York Post -Salon

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  84. @obwandiyag

    I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site

    Obwandiyag, I like how you are redeeming yourself.

    I have become so alarmed at what I read on this site that I have decided on a plan of action.

    If I were the CIA, when the time comes, I will first kill all visitors to this site. The commenters I would make soap and lampshades of, except for the trolls: I am still looking for something more heinous for them – perhaps an audit.

    Come to think of it, that’s exactly what I will do.

  85. geokat62 says:

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Iris
  86. ANON[127] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    1 AIPAC forms new group to oppose Iran deal– https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/aipac-iran-deal-citizens-for-a-nuclear-free-iran-120307

    1 Patrick Clawson, Director of Research at Washington Institute Of Near East Policy (WINEP), has suggested that someone should fabricate that small provocation.Speaking at the WINEP policy forum luncheon on “How to Build US-Israeli Coordination on Preventing an Iranian Nuclear Breakout,” Clawson (ironically) said that “if, in fact, the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if someone else started the war.” https://www.businessinsider.com/top-researcher-suggests-israel-get-nastier-with-iran-sink-sub-illicit-false-flag-2012-9

    1 Joe Liberman wants war against Syria and Iran

    1 Il Senator while brain injured and lies in hospital advocates for war against Iran . Who is writing his stuff ?

    1 “The War Won’t End in Baghdad,” wrote the American Enterprise Institute’s Michael Ledeen in the Wall Street Journal, he argues, “we must also topple terror states in Tehran and Damascus.”

    1 Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has joined the call against Tehran, arguing in a November interview with the Times of London that the U.S. should shift its focus to Iran ‘the day after’ the Iraq war ends. “One can only hope that we turn the region into a caldron, and faster, please,” Ledeen at National Review 
    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-dec-01-op-tolan1-story.html

    1  Many rank-and-file members of AIPAC seemed to be spoiling for military action against Iran — “We have to do to them what we did to Saddam,” – GREGORY LEVEY 2007 at AIPAC conference

    1 AIPAC leaders are pushing for a different kind of offensive against Iran: a new program of sanctions much harsher than any prior one imposed through the United Nations–https://www.salon.com/2007/03/16/aipac/

    the organization (AIPAC) deployed its army of lobbyists to push for new sanctions against Iran, which are contained in a new bill called the Iran Counter-Proliferation Act, introduced by Democrat Tom Lantos and Republican Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the ranking members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. Salon

    1 “The biggest problem for the United States is not Iran getting a nuclear weapon and testing it. It’s Iran getting a nuclear weapon and not using it. Because the second they have one and they don’t do anything bad, all of the naysayers are going to come back and say, ‘See! We told you Iran is a reponsible power”- Danielle Pletka, the vice president for foreign and defense policy studies at AEI 
    Media Matters’ MJ Rosenberg asks, adding, “But what about the hysteria about a second Holocaust?

    1 Cotton once proposed punishing the family members of those who violated sanctions on Iran with up to 20 years in prison, saying that punishment should apply to “parents, children, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, grandparents, great grandparents, grandkids, great grandkids.” He wantedto deal with Iran’s nuclear program with a vigorous bombing campaign”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/04/tom-cottons-ugly-screed-hints-terrible-backlash-come Cotton a protege of Kriostol Kristol Kristol.

    1 Reuel Marc Gerecht of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies and the Council on Foreign Relations’ Ray Takeyh made an impassioned case for seeking regime change in Iran while bemoaning the supposed risk they run of being “scorned as a warmonger, a fomenter of chaos.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/29/regime-change-iran-shouldnt-be-taboo/

    How did Mark Dubowotz FDD founder become Iran expert?

    This way— By being born in S Africa, having a law degree , a master’s in international public policy from Johns Hopkins University,on top of that studying in Jerusalem’s Hebrew University and in Paris,and being a success in business -.
    “For example, he may arrive at a meeting in Canada’s Prime Minister Office, and on the way there stop by a local TV studio and bluntly urge Ottawa to shift from talk to action. 
    At the age of 42, Dubowitz has turned into an authority on the Iranian issue, and the US Administration is eager to hear what he has to say about the sanctions . One is amazed to discover that the US, a superpower boasting 16 intelligence agencies, nonetheless relies on the information and ideas of a man who heads an independent organization. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4060499,00.html

    What will happen to this expert ? Same thing that happened to Richrad Pewle and Wolfowitz and Feith and Abrams. Joe Lieberman ,Ilena Rothen from Florida People will shrug and move on saying “Wow! They would believe a guy who just would show up on TV or storm into PM’s office and lecture 16 Intelligence agencies? Wow ! How did he get the acces? Well he got the access the way Judith Miller and Curveball got, the way Sharon OSP got ,the way AIPAC got

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  87. @Sparkon

    If I remember previous debates of 911 on UR correctly, FB never claimed that the planes brought down the towers but that they were used in conjunction with the pre-planted demolition explosives. He just doesn’t agree that the video footage shown to the world is computer generated and believes that it shows what actually happened on the day.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  88. Hibernian says:
    @Thomasina

    Some people believe that the powers behind the throne(s) are hidden. The vast majority of their activities are hidden, but their names are well known. Think Rockefeller, Morgan, DuPont, Harriman, Schiff, Warburg, etc. Do you seriously think he works for the CIA, etc., rather than the other way around. Granted, in his early days he may well have been aided by the right friends in the right places.

  89. Hibernian says:
    @Anon

    Trump will lose, but continue playing golf.

    There’s a significant chance he will spend his twilight years in prison, even if he’s re-elected this November. The Dems will definitely try to make this happen if he isn’t.

  90. DrWatson says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The 5 dancing israelis belonged to a moving company and were quietly deported after arrested by the FBI. The best evidence about israeli foreknowledge is the fact that out of the 3k israelis working at the wtc at the time none had died in the attack. Also there was a messaging israeli company with unusually high activity on that morning – apparently notifying the israelis working in the wtc of the imminent danger.

  91. Which planes are you talking about?

  92. Trinity says:
    @obwandiyag

    And speaking of conspiracy theories not being covered we have the latest arrest of Ghislane Maxwell. Can’t seem to find anything about Ghislane on this site. Strange.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  93. @KA

    That Salon article is very interesting and contains many truths. (Of particular interest was the polling which showed Jews to be strongly against the Iraq War; indeed much more than non Jewish Americans).

    So why has there been so little movement away from AIPAC dominance since that 2007 article? I suspect that the author underestimates the power of money for campaigning which may be more important than Jewish votes. The hopeless corruption of American government by money is apparent. It couldn’t happen in Australia’s electoral system where nearly everyone votes and single issue politics is also discouraged by the preferential voting system. Also far less money is spent on election campaigns. That doesn’t mean that Australia’s Israel Lobby isn’t pretty effective as lobbies go.

    • Replies: @KA
  94. @Cars International A

    From my perspective, virtually all of the intelligence services operate as one, but especially the 5 Eyes plus Mossad. The CIA doesn’t spy on Americans, Canada’s CSIS or Britain’s MIs do, then pass on the info to the CIA, and vice versa, because they would never spy on their own citizens (says John Brennan). Israel has been given access to the 5 Eyes electronic spying network. The CIA is just the American front for the globalists running the show.

  95. Trinity says:

    Just scrolling down the site I noticed a couple of old articles on Pizza-Gate have been brought back. Speaking of “conspiracy theories” and the Ghislane Maxwell/Epstein pedophile ring. Still no Ghislane story though.

  96. @A123

    Soros is neither Muslim or Jew. He is a servant of Babylon.

  97. It is one thing to attribute such menace to Soros but it is quite another to explain his success.

    Does he face no opposition ? Is it really so easy for a latter-day “Blofeld” to achieve his aims with no credible or competent opposition ?

    • Replies: @A123
  98. Ron Unz says:
    @Trinity

    And speaking of conspiracy theories not being covered we have the latest arrest of Ghislane Maxwell. Can’t seem to find anything about Ghislane on this site. Strange.

    Well, duh. This isn’t a NEWS website, it’s an opinion webzine, which is an entirely different thing. Once our various writers and columnists have something to say, we’ll probably publish it.

    Anyway, I think the only information on the arrest so far available is the official statement that was discussed in the New York Times and other MSM sources. So maybe you should spend your time visiting the NYT instead.

    My impression is that you’re just one of the random nuts who hangs around this website, ranting and raving without knowledge of anything. Unlike you, most of our writers try to wait for some information before saying anything.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Truth3
  99. Sparkon says:

    From the very beginning, Gallup Polls have shown that a majority of Americans have rejected the idea that Oswald acted alone.

    Just days after John F. Kennedy’s funeral in 1963 — which occurred three days after he was assassinated — Gallup interviewers fanned out across the United States to gauge public reaction. One of the key questions was whether the suspected killer, Lee Harvey Oswald, had acted alone; Americans’ hunch was that he hadn’t. The slight majority thought “some group or element was also responsible,” while just 29% thought Oswald acted on his own and 19% were unsure.

    https://news.gallup.com/vault/221048/gallup-vault-few-1963-thought-oswald-acted-alone.aspx

    As Gallup’s graph shows, it is only with the rise of the Beavis and Butthead generations that increasing numbers of Americans believe that Oswald was the lone assassin, but those ignoramuses still remain in the distinct minority.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @James Forrestal
  100. @geokat62

    Starmer may be a POS, but there is no evidence he interfered. I know this is not “source” evidence, but it does indicate there is more to the story than meets the eye.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11639371/sir-keir-starmer-jimmy-savile-scandal/
    Saville would have to have help from someone above Starmer’s pay grade to be able to “threaten” police.

  101. Anon[492] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man

    They hate the Catholic Church first and foremost.

    Catholic Church = Mater et Magister of the now orphaned “whites”, who don’t understand why they can’t come together to defend their nations and civilization.

    “They” seem to be on the brink of winning. We’ll see.

  102. Duke84 says:
    @ariadna

    It really was just Oswald acting alone.Even his own brother believed he was guilty and those who criticized the Warren Commission report never got around to reading it.

    • Replies: @ariadna
  103. Ron Unz says:
    @Sparkon

    As Gallup’s graph shows, it is only with the rise of the Beavis and Butthead generations that increasing numbers of Americans believe that Oswald was the lone assassin, but those ignoramuses still remain in the distinct minority.

    Sure. There’s absolutely overwhelming evidence of a “conspiracy,” with both official Congressional committees and leading mainstream academics writing in the elite media all admitting as such. But since the pundits on TV mostly pooh-poohs it, stupid or cowardly people tend to say otherwise:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-jfk-assassination-part-i-what-happened/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-jfk-assassination-part-ii-who-did-it/

    • Replies: @Alden
  104. Emily says:

    A potential conspiracy theory here……
    List from the Duran – most of us would consider a credible information source.
    BLM.
    We all have a fair inkling of its policies – not pretty.
    Pretty ugly actually – racist and marxist, violent, destructive and deadly.
    So Mr Geraldi and others here – take a look at its financiers and explain their rationale to me.
    And where the billions are gone.
    The organizers…
    The end game….
    And what is bl**dy well going on.
    This has the potential to out do all the other conspiracy theories – many of which I certainly believe in.
    Oh!
    Covid-19 – Chinese????
    What the heck was it doing in Spanish poo – from March 2019 – if that report is true.
    https://theduran.com/businesses-who-are-supporting-the-antifa-and-blm-riots-video/

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  105. Mr. Hack says:
    @Ron Unz

    Is everybody here asleep at the wheel? Steve Sailer has written at least two threads regarding Epstein and Maxwell over the last two days?…

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Ghan-buri-Ghan
  106. JasonT says:
    @Herald

    Agreed.

    Unfortunately on the ‘vaccine’ front, we will not be given a choice. If you refuse, you will be force vaccinated and incarcerated.

    • Replies: @Herald
  107. A123 says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    It is one thing to attribute such menace to Soros but it is quite another to explain his success.

    Does he face no opposition ? Is it really so easy for a latter-day “Blofeld” to achieve his aims with no credible or competent opposition ?

    The “Left vs. Right” concept for politics was exploited by The IslamoSoros and his co-conspirators. They controlled both sides:

    — Right — Corporate — Importing Cheap workers is good.
    — Left — SJW — Opposing Judeo-Christian culture is good.

    Open borders for the Mass Muslim Invasion of Europe was simultaneously pro-Left and pro-Right.
    _______

    The new spectrum “Populist vs. SJW Globalist” eliminates this problem:

    — Globalist — SJW and Corporate — Importing Cheap workers is good. And, undermining Judeo-Christian culture is good.

    — Populist — Employing citizens is good. And, embracing Judeo-Christian values is good.

    Everywhere you look Christians and Jews are coming together to oppose the SJW Globalism of The IslamoSoros. Italy, Poland, and Hungary have true Populist parties. France has the Yellow Vest movement.

    The sharia compliant Fake Stream Media outlets (BBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc.) are becoming increasingly desperate as they flail against Populism. They try to define it as “far right” and then “extreme right”. Actual Populist policies, such as enforcing immigration laws, reflect common sense Main Street values.
    _____

    While Populism is gaining strength, victory is far from certain.

    The biggest risk is that SJW Globalists may try end democracy and elections before they are replaced. The WUHAN-19 pandemic has already been exploited by those against elections: (1)

    the Democrats are pushing for mail-in ballots for the general election in November. Their reason is obvious, it is much easier to cheat with mail-in ballots as this new case out of New Jersey illustrates.

    One in 5 ballots for the May city council election in Paterson, New Jersey has been rejected because of fraud. A total of four men have now been charged including the vice-president of city council.

    In all, just under 3,200 or 19% ballots in the race were rejected for fraud.

    In the U.S., the SJW Globalist DNC is actively pushing for massive expansion of mail-in voting to scale-up their vote fabrication opportunities.

    Worst case scenario, the DNC will fraudulently create 15-20MM mail-in & harvested ballots trying to fake a Biden victory. Imagine a magnified version of the Gore-Bush controversy happening in multiple states.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-06-29-more-than-3000-mail-in-ballots-in-may-nj-election-rejected-for-fraud/

  108. Herald says:
    @obwandiyag

    You got it. Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere. That’s why you can say whatever you want. They want you to express yourself freely. For the record.

    Interesting take on UR and of course anything is possible. It might help though, if you could give us the name of your contact at Langley and then we might all be able to have a little chat with that helpful person.

  109. Herald says:
    @JasonT

    Unfortunately on the ‘vaccine’ front, we will not be given a choice. If you refuse, you will be force vaccinated and incarcerated.

    That, unfortunately may well be so, but accepting forced vaccination as inevitable will only help to bring it about.

    • Replies: @JasonT
    , @Herald
  110. KA says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    (Of particular interest was the polling which showed Jews to be strongly against the Iraq War; indeed much more than non Jewish Americans).”
    Many explanations from genuine to not being genuine opinion and in between

    The tendency to seek universal consensus ,to ask for 100 % rating or “yes” ,or seek 100 % showing up or even 50 % showing up for an event of questionable legality or morality is a distraction , a digression, is like a “gotcha “ question type of behaviors— here in this case it’s a “gotcha” explanation .

    Silent majority support AIPAC, they vote to power the most Israeli centric politicians and carry water for Israel. They send donations for Israel. They go to birthright visit and sign up for IDF . They raise funds for IDF .

    How many Jews did show up against Gaza war ,against Iraq war –none , how many are showing up against AIPAC or FDD or AEI buildings or meeting protesting against the march to war in Syria against Iran ( against sanction, killings, fire and sabotage and war rhetorics)?? How many Jews are showing up against Israel for trying to drag US against Iran war ,against bombarding Syria , against continue red duplicity against Palestinian ?

    Most of those Jewish supporting Iraq war shwoed up in rallies. .

    Jewish students showed up in front of Iran embassy shouting against Iran in 2008 or around that time .

    The Jewish organization supported all these wars and continue to support anti Iran anti Palestinian and anti Syrian activities and continue promote wars . These organ organizations depend on the approval socially financially , ,morally and religiously of the majority of Jews .

    • Agree: mark green
  111. Mefobills says:
    @obwandiyag

    You got it. Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, .

    Sack up. Die on your feet, not your knees.

    • Agree: Herald, DaveE
  112. The two most popular conspiracy theories n america

    1. Black failure is caused by whites

    2. Female failure is caused by men

    Truth is blacks and women just don’t have the ability of white men.

    • Agree: mark green
  113. DaveE says:
    @obwandiyag

    I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere.

    They call it Deep State Flypaper.

    Personally I think it’s great that the flies seem to have grown a backbone and ain’t cowering in fear no mo’. The day will soon come when the flies EAT the flypaper.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  114. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sparkon

    Great photo proving the official narrative is as preposterous as Aladdin and his boys flying magic carpets into the Twin Towers on 9-11. Speaking of fairytales, there’s also a 34-page report from MIT, “Aircraft Structural Damage,” claiming that previously unknown forces prove it’s possible, effectively, for a beer can to destroy the sledge hammer coming down on it at 500 mph instead of vice versa, or in the case in point, for a fuselage such as the one in the photo and its attached wings to accomplish what amounts to the same magical feat. The MIT study has the authority of the Ivy League behind it because it was written by a professor of mechanical engineering whose expertise may be in designing cabinet hinges and two oceanography students. This is science, after all!

  115. Trinity says:

    Hmm, some conspiracies that I do believe

    Sonny Liston was murdered and both Liston vs. Clay/Ali fights were fixed

    Marylin Monroe was murdered

    JFK assassination? I will take the opinion of Michael Collins Piper over all others that I have heard or read

    James Earl Ray DID NOT shoot MLK

    Conspiracies that I don’t believe

    Paul McCartney never died

    Moon Landing Hoax? No, Virginia, we actually did land on the Moon. Chalk one up for the White man.

    White men can’t jump? Olympic weightlifters, many of whom are white, have vertical leaps off the charts.

    Fiction that has been passed off as the truth.

    3 Black ladies were instrumental in helping America become the first and only nation to land on the Moon.

    Tuskegee Airmen played a prominent role in WWII.

    We know that George Washington never threw a stone much less a silver dollar across the Potomac, but I hear tell that Walter Johnson and Lou Gehrig both accomplished that feat with a silver dollar. Who knows?

    • Replies: @omegabooks
    , @anon
    , @anonymous
  116. Iva says:

    This is disappointing. I will NEVER read your articles again. You reviled yourself with this article.

  117. Roosevelt the Commie stated that only fools believe things just happen, there is always some group of people making it happen.

    As much as I despise Roosevelt as the Traitor he was, I agree.
    Things just don’t happen.
    Networks of people discuss, plan, evaluate, test, implement, etcetera ad nauseum.
    The nonsense about conspiracy theories is just that: nonsense. Institutional structures don’t change who is related to whom, who they went to school with and so on.
    These networks are normal parts of any human society.

    Do I believe P. Giraldi is a real rebel. Yeah, right. He still gets a cheque and cashes it.
    He is a classic disinformatzia agent and gatekeeper.

  118. I agree. What goes on at Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, Davos, Aspen, …in their private enclaves with briefing on any policy area from their pocket think-tanks is the real governance of the Western global hegemony. Anyone who doesn’t do conspiracy analysis is just not paying attention.

    But the kicker is, they also have it on good scientific authority that the masses have an intelligence level of a 13 yr old and no analytical capacity. Their pocket intelligentsia then can pitch a narrative to the MSM with mathematical confidence in its mass acceptance. Truth doesn’t have a chance. Most people actually believe Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself.

  119. @DaveE

    There is a single argument I can think of superseding your statement. Since “AI”, alas for now, meta-data analysis, after being gathered, and unz.com is part of the google ecosystem, where-ever you put your “ink” and without human interference, but for the time there would be any interest in a certain individual, you are “fly-papered” anyhow.

    Interesting side effect is that a site as unz.com cannot sell it´s content, or data analysis for more then scraps, since the google eco-system supersedes, and analyses before and at a lower level anything of interest.

    Also, journalism becomes really “cheap”, since the factor content as compared to meta tactics (multiplying the message, on all venues possible, by different actors(politicians, journalists, bloggers, youtubers, at appropriate timing) is dwarfed by the latter. Content providers are becoming a cheap commodity, and the difference, as an example between commenters and authors, actors, gets vague. The content of any value here, is a mixed bag of loops between authors scanning and reading feed-back of commenters, and commenters pointing to erratic author content.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  120. @Emily

    “That report” is NOT TRUE. Not “from March 2019”, but one positive for a small amount of SARS-Cov2 for March 19, 2019, then no further positives until January 2020, entirely consistent with an incursion from China. The March 19, 2019 positive is clearly an outlier.

  121. And apart from Soros, few actual experts on Russia would claim that it is seeking to recreate the “influence” of the Soviet Union. Moscow does not have the resources to do so and has evinced no desire to pursue the sort of global agenda that was characteristic of the Soviet state.

    The fact that Russia today does not have the same resources as the USSR doesn’t prevent it to aspire to *some* degree of influence, even if it is just a fraction of what it had in USSR times. It is also wrong to consider an influence on Syria as part of a “global agenda”. Syria is geographically close to Russia. So, it is more of a local sphere of influence than a global one.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  122. Getaclue says:
    @JasonT

    “Conspiracy Theory/Conspiracy Theorist” — if there were Burglaries taking place in a neighborhood and it was pointed out and the response was “You’re a Burglary Theorist” — the stupidity of this CIA created psychological warfare term is made obvious. Nearly infinitely wealthy people conspire and hate the rest of us, Giraldi has missed that somehow– (the Council on Foreign Relations doesn’t exist in his reality? All the machinations of the Rockefellers have been for our own good in his world view?)– for anyone paying attention this fact is obvious. They used to be out front about their “depopulation” and Eugenics Agendas now they hide it as “Climate Change” and Medical Martial Law as the paid off “Experts” participate along with the Useful Idiots — so very worried about the health and welfare of the Peons they have screwed over relentlessly for untold decades? Giraldi buys this? (maybe he just sells it?)–sad.

    James Corbett has DOCUMENTED it straight from their “Elite” mouths in the most scrupulous and evidence based manner. Review his entire site and tell me the Rockefellers and Gates et al are not engaged in an active War against the rest of us thru their bought off NWO “Experts”/Lackeys etc. He documents it completely. The Rockefellers have destroyed nearly everything they have ever touched — purposefully. Gates is the new front man for the Medical Martial Law era of the “decade of vaccines” — for people like Giraldi to be clueless of all this– really? Please.
    https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/

    Here’s how the Rockefellers destroyed Medicine and turned it into profit/pills and surgeries with little regard to healing. Destroying all who got in their way as the are wont to do…. Really they have been a cancer since the one who produced John D., who was fondly known as “the Devil”, started the Modern family line of infliction on us all — Gates is said to be related to them not too far back — his Father headed Planned Parenthood and Grandfather was on the Fed Board somewhere etc. — he just cares so much about us that’s why he’s desperate to stick a needle in every Peon arm on Earth…he has “big love” for us, that’s his motivation of course….: https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-286-rockefeller-medicine/

  123. @04398436986

    Not a conspiracy theory. It’s called “Doctrine of Discovery”.

    A Papal Bull issued out of the Vatican, that gave Catholic nations the right to rape, pillage, and plunder pagan nations.

    The choices given to the Pagans were “convert to Rome, become slaves, or genocide”.

    Missionaries and Mercenaries doing “God’s” work.

    • Troll: Anonymousse
  124. @Brás Cubas

    Russia is involved in Syria with a large dose of self interest. The Tartus facility is Russia’s naval access point in the Med. Bypassing the choke point of the Bosporus Strait.

    After Libya and Ukraine, Syria knows what will follow in the collapse of Assad’s government.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
  125. @Mr. Hack

    Must’ve missed that in between his groundbreaking regurgitation of MSM propaganda about the Chinese making soap and lampshades out Muslim hair or whatever.

    LOL

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  126. Giraldi: the country has “become so screwed up”, not so screwed over. Note his use of the passive voice.

    Giraldi’s stated cause of the screw up: “elite incompetence”. A lack of skill that is; no ill will at work.

    To believe that “the multiple crises currently being experienced” ( there’s that passive voice again) are manufactured and/or weaponized by an elite, immoral as well as incompetent, is clear evidence only of a “search for a scapegoat.”

    Note that none of Giraldi’s assertions are supported by fact.

    When Soros engages in question-begging thus, that’s bad. When Giraldi does it, that’s called proof.

    This means that Phil Giraldi is the arbiter of truth and falsity in discourse. Thank God- I mean- Phil, I now know! If anyone ever charges me with being a conspiracy theorist again, I’ll puff my chest out and say, “That’s Phil Giraldi approved” and watch them eat their words.

    But all kidding aside, his chutzpah in dismissing thus the evidence of the weaponzing of a virus christened Sars Cov 2, bespeaks a contempt for the truth on a par with Soros’ in its being “a clear sign that he picks his enemies based on ideological considerations that also drive his choices on how to frame his ventures.”

    Takes one to know one, Phil?

    Let’s examine how Giraldi frames the coronavirus crisis.
    His commentary “is full of errors of fact and is basically a call for aggression.”

    I am eye witness to the latter claim. I went to buy my family fruit yesterday and was set upon by a aggressive woman in a mask disinforming me that I was responsible for killing people.

    Because I was not wearing a mask.
    Phil’s piece would have fueled her misplaced outrage. Happy Fourth to you too, Phil.

    If I can know the following, so can Giraldi, so in rebutting his question-begging fallacies on corona below, I aim not to show him that he missed a few things but merely to out him as agenda, not altruism, driven.

    Of the coronavirus narrative rejector, Giraldi scorns his belief that the virus is being used to further civilian liberty- stripping because such rejectors “choose to believe the virus is actually a flu.”

    This is uncited. Whom is Giraldi quoting? He does not say. How about trying to knock this one down, Phil:

    “this is just a virus – and a comparatively minor one.”
    That’s editor Kit Knightly from OffGuardian, March 5, 2020.

    When you have to change the word virus to flu in order to stay alive, you’ve set up a strawman to knock down, haven’t you?

    And since when did ad hominem attacks count as argument? Giraldi calls a “snake oil salesmen” his uncited author who had the temerity to wander off the the authorized discourse reservation, I guess, and “persists in using an analogy, that since more Americans are killed in automobile accidents than by the coronavirus it would be more appropriate to ban cars than to require the wearing of face masks.”

    Well, is it true, Phil? What’s good for the Soros to fess -up-to is evidently not for the Giraldi. Hypocrisy guarding hypocrisy.

    Back to Giraldi as the arbiter of truth and falsity: He finds it risible, an enormity, that Bill Gates’ suddenly appearing on the world stage as a vaccine/ corona authority, should be greeted by the American people with non-plussing.

    This is what constitutes his argument against such non-plussing: it (purportedly)non-plusses Phil. And what is my non-plussing as compared with his? Am I the arbiter of truth and falsity in discourse? So that settles that.

    And that brings Phil, who relies upon weasel words throughout, so confident he is of his position, to the mother “fallacy” behind all these others he has exposed so lucidly:
    the crisis over corona couldn’t have been manufactured because whole countries were locked down and Phil already told us that these elites who run things are incompetent. They are not skilled enough to pull such a thing off. Remember, he said that? That’s called an argument, son.

    Obviously, therefore, the only rational conclusion a sane person could arrive at is that when we are told there is no difference between this announced coronavirus and a scientifically-verifiable, novelly-threatening, mask-necessitating, lockdown- justifying, virus-isolated, Koch-postulate proven, disease afoot by the same owners of the same “news” outlets who tell us that there is no difference between an unborn child and a diseased appendix; between a pro-lifer and a terrorist; between a male and a female; between Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and democracy; between the practice of usury and financial genius; between an anti-Semite and a Catholic; between Putin and Hitler… it must be so.

    With enemies like Giraldi, Soros doesn’t, but America sorely does, need friends.

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/02/no-one-has-died-from-the-coronavirus-president-of-the-bulgarian-pathology-association/

    • Agree: Getaclue
  127. The three great conspiracies, they are destiny:

    1. The assassination of JFK replaced the semi-democratic presidency with the Deep State.

    2. 911 laid the legal and technical foundation for the universal surveillance state.

    3. Covid-19, though likely an accident from the Wuhan lab, opens the door to the greatest conspiracy of all:

    a. The mandated chipping of people, which is the ultimate contact tracing. Provides for the universal policing of individuals who refuse to police themselves.

    b. Advent of cashless society: with implanted semiconductors, no more need for fiat currency (which is making itself worthless, anyway). Digital control of individual bank accounts and transactions completes the government stranglehold on society. Government becomes God, which has been its dream since Pharoah.

    The remaining step is removal of national borders. People must learn not to identify with their country of birth, but with the trans-national Borg, for the sake of peace and harmony and universal good will. The new world utopia will have realized its aim, the absorption of all into the One.

    Expect this final step to get under way with President Biden, with the full opening of the southern border.

  128. Art says:

    Soros claims to be a “force for good” as the cliché goes, but is it completely credible that his $32 billion foundation does not operate behind the scenes to influence developments in ways that are certainly not democratic?

    Mr. Unz and Mr. Giraldi are about to have 32 billion dollars descend on them.

    Glen Beck attack Soros big time on his Fox TV show – with the result that he was canceled in short order.

    Soros is one bad Jew – with all the inferior immoral character traits of his tribe. One of them is revenge.

    (It has been said that during WWII – as a boy, he sold out his fellow Jews to the Nazis.)

  129. Mr. Hack says:
    @Ghan-buri-Ghan

    It’s easy enough to do…

  130. @A123

    Soros is a Muslim, you say? Hmmmmm….you could be right….Donmeh though is more like it.

  131. Has nothing to do ideologies. Soros is all about money and maintaining the Jewish shield, the Holos.

  132. @Eighthman

    I don’t find any explanation of 9/11 to be credible. In particular, if Israel did it, how did they coordinate the suicide jihadis on the planes?

    Agreed. I had the same reaction when I first saw that Godzilla movie. How did they manage to direct and control that gigantic monster during those scenes?

    • LOL: utu, DaveE, Sya Beerens
  133. @Trinity

    Correct about Paul-as-Faul….a video with a tape FROM GEORGE HARRISON verifies Paul is dead….and so did Ringo in a video I saw two years ago. Did Harrison get whacked over it? Maybe. Clearly John Lennon, who exposed it any which way one could (lyrics and album covers), surely got whacked.

  134. He revealed that he is far from a benevolent figure fighting for justice in his March Financial Times op-ed (behind a pay wall) entitled “Europe Must Stand With Turkey Over Putin’s War Crimes in Syria.”

    Arrest Warrant Issued for Key CIA Gülen Handler

    Turkey has just issued an arrest warrant for ‘former’ CIA top official Graham E Fuller for involvement in the failed July 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan and the Turkish government…

    WikiLeaks, Hillary-Gulen Intimate Ties & How the Clintons Gave Birth to Mullah Gulen’s Terrorist Network

    https://www.newsbud.com/2020/06/28/coup-update-5-international-flaming-hotspots-to-keep-an-eye-on/

  135. Iris says:
    @geokat62

    “Sir” Keir Starmer is married to a Jewish lady and his children are raised in the Jewish fate.

    Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife’s faith, saying: ‘As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are barmitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.’
    He also spoke about their Friday night dinner tradition, which sees his wife’s family invited to their Camden home for supper,

    https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoria

    • Thanks: geokat62
    • Replies: @Jimsy
  136. Cornelius says:

    Ukrainian Nationalism IS VERY popular with Jews. FYI. I found that out by looking into who follows who, who works where. HUGE networks of Jews and Ukrainian Nationalists. They’re crazy about Ukrainian Nationalism LET ME TELL YUH!

    ANYONE WANT LINKS?? I GOT EM. JUST ASK.

  137. @DrWatson

    Thanks. You remind me of potentially evidentiary stuff I have at the back of my mind when I admit Israel to the circle of guilt. But, if I have to rely on the kind of summary you provide I would, with respect, prefer Philip Giraldi was staking reputation on it rather than its coming from a commenter as pseudonymous as myself.

    • Replies: @DrWatson
  138. @ANON

    Thanks. That’s a valuable compilation. Not a criticism at all but it doesn’t answer specifically my request for PG’s reference to neo cons on Iran to be backed up.

  139. If there is any remaining doubt in your mind that the tech companies in collusion with world governments intend to drive people away from the internet, consider how many have been censored, and that Google changed its search algorithm in 2016 to something extremely inferior, which often yields search results that do not have the damndest thing to do with what was even searched for! Add to that their absolute refusal to help consumers that have been hacked or censored, and capitulating to governments throughout the world which each have their own unique demands. Alternative media is now nearly just as shitty as MSM as a result of “the purge”, with now only a few websites even worth bothering with. Can’t have anything nice in this shit-hole country! The retards will destroy it! Whether statues, or the internet! Anything that benfits the general population will be destroyed by the retards in control, that are incapable of competing with anyone, which they have proven through their censorship and destruction of the entire country, in a megalomaniacal, narcissistic, juvenile, temper tantrum of rage! It is what the retarded half refers to as “winning!”

  140. JasonT says:
    @Herald

    I am not accepting it, but I have little power to stop it.

  141. Giraldi is controlled opposition, he is engaging in subtle sleight of hand with the 9/11 narrative, claiming that the Saudis did it, and that the Israelis only “knew it was coming”.

    “Israel clearly knew it was coming, witness the Five Dancing Shlomos cavorting and filming themselves in New Jersey as the twin towers went down. Also the Saudis might have played a role in funding and even directing the alleged hijackers. “

    Fact is, the three towers were brought down by controlled demolition. The Saudis obviously didn’t do it, they had no access to Building 7 or Silverstein’s WTC towers. The Saudis were the red herring in this operation, and Giraldi knows it.

    “Urban Moving Systems” van driven by Israelis, filled with explosives , were stopped on 9/11. The “dancing Shlomos” weren’t just there to document the event…

    Giraldi is too smart to make that kind of a mistake, he is deliberately engaging in disinformation here. Maybe that’s the retirement deal he’s made with his former (current?) employer…

    I think that’s the lesson here, be careful of the big 10% lie that’s packaged with the 90% truth by people like “former” intelligence officer Garaldi.

    Also, the main driver behind the JFK assassination was the same party as in 9/11. Read Laurent Guyénot’s “JFK-9/11”. Jakob Rubenstein aka Jack Ruby was neither an Italian mobster nor a ClA officer.

    • Replies: @Druid
  142. Ruckus says:

    Lol it wasn’t Cuba taking out JFK, it was the Amish

  143. FB says: • Website
    @obwandiyag

    Well…that’s neither here nor there…but ask our dear Phil about the intestinal difficulties some have been having lately…?…😂 😂 😂

  144. Ace says:
    @A123

    So Soros is so, like, over being Jewish but he’s really down with being a Muslim and with advancing their agenda.

    Makes sense to me.

    • LOL: Trinity
  145. Ace says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The “inequality” obsession of not a few seems contrived. People don’t care about a lot of things if they are able to provide for their families, have a little fun now and then, and put something away for their old age. But the essence of the US elite-devised “economy” of the last 40 years is sticking it to American labor. Immigration, off-shoring, H-1B garbage, and crushing taxation (as is seen in the reality underlying Tax Freedom Day) each year are what is killing Americans.

    The political class also did all in its power to grease the skids for their own ascent into the ranks of the uber rich and powerful such that anyone pointing out this diseased maldistribution of power is viciously silenced whether by the tech giant, social media, or media monopoly scum.

    The “inequality” garbage is an abstract, airy fairy diversion so that Citizens United poison, Supreme Court betrayal, free-range Antifa, immigration, and vote fraud, inter alia, are not examined too closely.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  146. anon[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @Trinity

    I like your ideas on Clay/Liston.
    Any opinion on whether Liston was whacked because of his piss poor tanking in both the
    Clay fights, his ending the career of Leotis Martin with a gouge, his brutal demolition of
    Chuck Wepner in what turned out to be his last bout or other Mob related reasons?

    • Replies: @Trinity
  147. @obwandiyag

    Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere.

    An interesting conspiracy theory. I remember when “perestroika” began in the USSR, some people said that it’s just a ruse, a trick to identify those who do not support the Party. Now look what happened.

  148. Trinity says:

    Funny, “conspiracy nuts and wackos” like Joe McCarthy, Dr. David Duke, Dr. William Pierce, always prove to be right, and the people mocking people like the aforementioned truth tellers always turn out to be wrong, or more than likely just liars. I have witnessed this with my own eyes for decades and counting.

    Integrating public schools were supposed to improve race relations. Well?

    The 1965 Immigration Reform Act would not change the demographics of America. Well?

    Dr. Duke was talking about our Southern border back in the Seventies and was labeled a kook, racist, wacko, blah, blah, blah… Dr. Duke also said that Whites would eventually face becoming a minority in their own countries way back in the day before Donald Trump was a member of Hair Club For Men. Well? Who is the wacko? Who is the truth speaker?

    Could point out COUNTLESS examples of truth speakers speaking the truth DECADES ago only to be dismissed by the powers that be as kooks, close minded bigots, racists, Nazis, White Supremacists, take your pick.

    How about this one. Didn’t little Dubya aka Bush Jr. say that America would be done in the Middle East in about 6 months way back in 2002? Well?

    I think we need to start listening to the wackos, the conspiracy nuts, the racists, the kooks, etc.

    • Replies: @Malla
  149. @Eighthman

    If you’re not trolling, ask Ryan Dawson on Youtube.

  150. The conspiracy theory meme is just a way of gaslighting normies into believing they are not being controlled. It panders to their pride. You see, absolutely everything that happens in the world at all times is just a random darwinian accident, completely unpredictable and unplanned. Even for the rich and influential. No one is suppossed to have any real power; least of all rich and influential people. How absurd! Lol

    The idea that smart people get together to plan outcomes implies the normie is missing out. Which they are. But that would offend their petty sense of pride. “No one controls me!” thinks the normie.

    Easier to lie to someone than to convince them they have been lied to.

    But ultimately the conspirators are to blame. They are not morally neutral agents merely taking advantage of dumb herds of consenting normies. The banking dynasties and kabbalists actively sabotage and deceive the normies. And for that alone these satanists will pay extremely in the hereafter. It is silly to blame a normie; these npcs are only responsible for what they understand, which isn’t much. But the satanists are a different story. They are very responsible for the state of the world. Their karma will utterly crush their souls into nonexistence–the real hell.

  151. Trinity says:
    @anon

    IF you know about Liston, ( I believe this was mentioned in a documentary on Sonny) was that he didn’t like needles. Sonny was a heavy drinker, but wasn’t known to take drugs. From what I have read he was definitely becoming involved with some seedy characters in Vegas at the time of his death. Of course Liston was always thought to be mobbed up and was associated with characters like Frank “Blinky” Palermo during his earlier years. My guess is Sonny probably pissed off the wrong people for whatever reason. Being the former heavyweight champion of the world probably won’t save you from the mob if they want you bad enough.

    I had Liston ahead before he got caught by Leotis Martin, a very good puncher, who had to retire after this fight because of a detached retina. Martin was out of Philly, so you know he had to be super tough to survive those legendary Philadelphia gym wars. As you probably know, Liston was always thought to be much older than his listed age, and even after the Ali fights, he went undefeated until his fight with Martin. Sonny busted up the Bayonne Bleeder pretty bad, I can’t quite remember how many stitches Wepner took for that one. Wepner was a HUGE guy, 6’5″-6’6″ ( even though he looked small next to Andre The Giant in their “rassler” vs. boxer match), but he was just a fringe contender at best. Wepner was pretty damn limited to say the least. Duane Bobick ( remember him) completely outclassed Wepner in their match, and Wepner was hopelessly over his head against a young Joe Bugner as well. Still the guy showed tremendous courage in his fight with Liston. It was said that even a young Joe Frazier avoided the old Liston in the late 1960s. Even an old and over the hill Sonny was a scary man.

  152. @JamesinNM

    UFC champ Khabib Nurmagomedov’s father has just died from Covid-19 at 57 in a Russian military hospital, presumably under the best care possible. He was a fit guy who coached many fighters including 18 combat sambo world champions.

    https://www.rt.com/sport/493799-khabib-father-abdulmanap-nurmagomedov-funeral/

    So he was felled by a hoax? Just a common cold virus?

  153. Ace says:
    @Duke84

    Was the “magic bullet” ever shown to have come from Oswald’s weapon by ballistic examination?

    It’s been a while but I don’t recall whether it was alleged that he used two weapons.

    • Replies: @Duke84
  154. Ace says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    Yes. “Someone” “rigged” the Twin Towers with explosives and “someone” “rigged” the airliners to “fly by wire.” That’s a lot of wiring, motors, cameras, transmitters to surreptitiously fit into the cockpit of a valuable machine undetected. Ditto rigging the charges on the beams of the towers with accompanying timing devices to stagger the detonations perfectly. Demolition experts able to freely access buildings for demolition don’t always get that perfect pancake effect.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  155. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz

    There are so many theories about the John Kennedy assassination they cancel each other out.

  156. @Duke84

    “””There’s never been any credible evidence that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy or that anyone other then Oswald was involved.He owned both murder weapons.”””

    Jack ruby.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  157. @Ace

    Yes, still more reasonable than the official story that fires brought down three buildings.

    I prefer to go with CGI in which case whatever we’re shown in video reports is not what happened, and hence analysing all that footage, as so many truthers do, is pointless other than to try to prove that it was CGI.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Ace
  158. @Anon

    Basically creating NGOs to mobilize civil society to a pitch, while providing content and tactics. Creating grass roots pressure to change policy and break up one of Europes oldest nation-states. Such a network has the advantage of flexibility, it can ebb and flow as required.

    Heck, just look at all the AG and DA elections that Soros and his orgs bought in the United States over the past few years.

    That investment is now paying off for him and the Left in spades.

    The next step in this Ordo ab Chaos stumps me.

    Global neo-feudalism for us 8 billion+ serfs, enforced by linked health and social credit systems tied to financial incentives. The social credit system in particular will be used as a cudgel against whites.

    • Replies: @Anon
  159. @Ace

    So you think US politicians and even prosperous fellow Americans should have preferred to keep up the prosperity of the less talented Americans rather than take a Christian or Muslim view and regard the lifting of billions out of real poverty as of higher priority. I write as one who for the time being has benefited from my politic leaders not having had to make the hard decisions.

    • Replies: @Ace
  160. @obwandiyag

    I once saw a documentary series by a former CIA man who seemed to conclude that Oswald was manipulated by some Cubans who were only pretending to be anti-Castro. It certainly was plausible unless one knew some killer detail that was inconsistent. Come to think of it it would be consistent with there being another gunman behind the wall on the grassy knoll. And, now I come to think of it, it is also consistent with those Cubans being in cahoots with the CIA…..

  161. @DrWatson

    Also there was a messaging israeli company with unusually high activity on that morning – apparently notifying the israelis working in the wtc of the imminent danger.

    That would be Odigo Messenger:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odigo_Messenger#Odigo_and_the_9/11_investigation

    • Replies: @DrWatson
  162. @Commentator Mike

    FB never claimed that the planes brought down the towers but that they were used in conjunction with the pre-planted demolition explosives.

    Dude, in all the decent quality vids you can watch the cutter charges going off in their pre-programmed sequence below the bottom edge of the main dust cloud.

  163. Jimsy says:
    @Duke84

    I once thought as you do, but not anymore — not after reading Laurent Guyenot’s article “Did Israel Kill the Kennedys?” here in the UR. It argues, and very persuasively, that the murder of JFK was set in motion by former Israeli PM David Ben-Gurion.

    • Agree: DaveE, Skeptikal, Iris
  164. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Why should I not believe my then young cousin who actually saw the plane which struck the second building as it flew towards the building and struck it? By coincidence she had a friend on one of those flights who was of course never seen again.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  165. Jimsy says:
    @Iris

    Thank you for that information, iris and geokat. This Kier Starmer ‘conspiracy theory’ looks like it might be conspiracy fact. Starmer is married to a jewish woman, has chosen to raise his children as jews, and expresses positive feelings about Judaism. Jimmy Saville was Jewish & raised many thousands of dollars over the years for charitable projects in Israel.

    Some years ago, Starmer is presented with evidence of sickening, illegal behaviour on the part of Saville, but declines to pursue it.

    A few years after that, Israel’s embassy in London & a supportive media orchestrate a smear campaign against the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn. He loses the election, steps down, and is replaced by … Kier Starmer!

    • Thanks: geokat62, ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  166. A real and dangerous naturaly occuring disease would make a much better vehicle for machinations by Bill Gates, crashing the economy without blaming anyone, etc., than a fake one. You just have to make your plans and wait for a suitable oportunity, perhaps a bit of exagerating the numbers and lethality would be required. I don’t agree that huge numbers of people would have to be involved, just few key decision makers as the rest would go along with what they are told provided it came from trusted sources and wasnt too implausable.

  167. Malla says:
    @Trinity

    I am a brown guy, and I have gone through reading the matter of so many ideological groups, it is hard to count, from Marxists to Afrocentrists to Buddhist fundamentalists to Lubads, you name it. The people who are closest to understanding how the world really works are White nationalists and National Socialists (Nazis for many). They know exactly how the world works or they are the closest to the truth. Next are Muslims when they talk about the J Question, eschatology and about the coming of Dajjal (anti-christ). Some Japanese folk writing books about the dangers of freemasonry can be added to this lot too.

    Among the most clueless folks are most White libtards who are naive dumbfarts and even some black nationalists/ Afrocentrists. But some black nationalists types who speak about the JQ are really really smart, like Minister Farrakhan. But the worst of the worst, the most clueless idiots are Hindu fundamentalists. Man, those idiots are totally clueless about the big picture.

    • Agree: Trinity, Druid, mark green
    • Replies: @Trinity
  168. Petermx says:

    Eighteen years ago I took my first trip to eastern Europe and I remember reading somewhere there (it might have been a sign) something expressing pride that George Soros stayed at a certain hotel. The media was pushing Soros as force for good, helping eastern European countries to advance their standing. I heard things about Soros’ good intentions and for years I was on his e-mail list until one day I responded to their email and I objected to something his organization was doing. I got a
    response but it didn’t address my objection and I removed myself from the organization’s e-mail list.

    Hungary’s leader Viktor Orban and his countryman Soros don’t like each other. Soros founded a school in Hungary and Orban objected to what they were promoting and Orban and others concluded the school was pushing am agenda specifically for Hungary and legislation was passed that forced the school to fold up and leave. This was only about two years ago and the EU bureaucrats attacked Orban and Hungary for banning such schools.

    In regards to Syria, Mr. Giraldi is of course correct. President Putin’s Russia is in Syria at the country’s invitation and US troops are in Syria as invaders, not at Syria’s invitation, and attacking Syrian troops. Despite US opposition, the Syrians and Russians have driven the terrorists out. By definition, terrorists are unidentifiable forces that physically attack a country’s government and its institutions. This includes military attacks. There is no doubt who was attacking Syria and aiding terrorists and who was supporting Syria. I think Mr. Giraldi could have emphasized this more. Also, you don’t have to be a genius to see why the Jew Soros would support bringing massive destruction to Syria and overthrowing the Assad government. Syria and Israel border each other and they are arch enemies. That this fact is always overlooked when a prominent Jew supports military aggression against an enemy because it’s “anti-Semitic” to point it out is just about the most powerful tool any force or country can have. No other country or people in the world enjoys such power, the ability to attack an enemy and not worry that someone will point out that Syria and the Jewish state are enemies. If these facts do not show the Jewish “Holocaust survivor” Soros is a supporter of Israel then you can’t say any leader of any country that attacks another country did it in support of his country either. Churchill was not working for England, FDR was not working for the US, Hitler was not working for Germany and Stalin wasn’t for the USSR. We don’t know why they just happened to support things that advanced their country’s interests and it would be prejudiced to assume they supported their own people just because they did things that were in the best interest of their country. If you accept that then I have a bridge I would like to sell to you.

  169. soros is the mask over the face of bank of redschield…the top demon usurers in history.

    this fact is why nobody wants to or can stop them doing evil to the world.

    they are tikun olaming us every day until their mischiac comes…which it never does…but a LOF waits all of them

  170. “And however one feels about President Donald Trump, it must be conceded that he has been the victim of a number of conspiracies, first to deny him the GOP nomination, then to insure that he be defeated in the presidential election, and subsequently to completely delegitimize his presidency.”

    Why must that be conceded? Is there not the slightest chance that it’s all political theater? Is there not the slightest chance that the Trump administration is just another “deep state” hoax perpetrated against “the people”? Is there not the slightest chance that Trump was brought to power by the “deep state” to do unpopular, high risk dirty work e.g. destroy Iran, confront China, withdraw from nuclear weapons treaties with Russia, overthrow the Venezuelan and Bolivian governments, etc. – while being constantly disparaged by the media and pretending to be one of “us”? Is there not the slightest chance that the plan from the beginning was to baffle “the people” with cognitive dissonance/gaslighting; e.g. the more “deep state” dirty work he does, the more they harass him (for everything else)?

    I don’t have a problem with claims that the “deep state” is out to get Trump. Maybe they are. The problem I have is the lack of a cogent explanation for anything that doesn’t support the theory. For example, why did Obama let Comey undermine Clinton’s electoral prospects with a fake investigation? Why did Obama attack the Syrian Army at Deir Ezzor in Sept. 2016, an act that could only have worked to Trump’s benefit? Why did the house not include Trump’s indefensible war crimes in Syria among the impeachment charges against him? Why did the senate acquit him rather than find him guilty and remove him? Does the “deep state” not control the senate? Is Lindsey Graham an independent actor? Maybe one or two things can be attributed to “shit happens” but the big picture is problematic.

    IIRC didn’t Phil Giraldi take the position that 9/11 was an inside job involving Israel? I don’t understand how anyone can believe that 9/11 was a fraud but refuse to consider the possibility that the Trump administration is a fraud.

    • Agree: anti_barabas_ite
    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  171. @obwandiyag

    “You got it. Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere. That’s why you can say whatever you want. They want you to express yourself freely. For the record….”

    absolutely spot on

    every comment sight ever used is a honeypot for further review by the masters of the universe.

    just look how SJW tap into your 8 year old faceberg posts to get you fired from your jobs.

    how every mass shooter has “An internet profile” scrubbed and narrative leaked as needed to demonize fully.

    at anytime the oligarchs in control can set you on fire from your publicly uttered comments or viewing habits…. you think you never did anything untowards to society? think again, the fickle winds of hysterical shrieking women knows no bounds…you are guilty if they say you are…

    I’m waiting for God to open my internet book and judge me! these “watchers” can stay in their hell… demons all of them!

  172. Bas says:

    Best ever not mentioned. The moon landings opened doors to the explained. JFK Not. It did start opening eyes for greater.

  173. anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @Trinity

    Fiction that has been passed off as the truth.

    You forgot to mention the most enduring fiction for the past 2000 years.

    Father, Son, Incarnation, “in-his-image” Mangods, 3in1, Trinity (oh, the irony there!), “god” as ice/water/vapour (lol!)…

    Your examples mean next to nothing. The fiction I have mentioned will lead your pagan-godless kind to an eternity in Hell. Beat that.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  174. @Desert Fox

    Dr Judy Wood is like saying that Martians killed JFK. Makes you look silly. You don’t need planes but you do need high quality thermite. And you don’t need Dr Judy Woods. Stop shooting yourself in the foot.

  175. Wielgus says:
    @Jimsy

    Savile was Roman Catholic although he was pro-Israeli and was involved with Jewish and Israeli charities and institutions.
    I recommend the biography In Plain Sight by Dan Davies.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  176. geokat62 says:

    Excerpts from, The Explosion at Natanz Is a Direct Hit on Iran’s Nuclear Program:

    The latest events in Iran, in particular the explosion at the nuclear facility in Natanz on Thursday, represent a significant rise in tensions in the region, even if the various countries are still preoccupied with the coronavirus pandemic and its consequences.

    Figures in Iran have already blamed Israel for the explosion, saying it may have been caused by a cyberattack. If that is so, according to past reports of exchanges between the two sides, it would suggest that Iran will try to respond, possibly with yet another cyberstrike of its own…

    Trump and Netanyahu are each dealing with unprecedented economic and public-health crises that also threaten their political futures. Perhaps they may be taking a tougher stance against Iran. That could have broad consequences for the region, even if all three countries are mired deep in the coronavirus crisis (and it seems that all three are failing spectacularly at coping with the pandemic).

    https://middleeasttransparent.com/en/the-explosion-at-natanz-is-a-direct-hit-on-irans-nuclear-program/

    • Thanks: Robjil
  177. geokat62 says:
    @Wielgus

    Savile was Roman Catholic…

    And, according to Jimmy, he was”the most Jewish Catholic you will ever meet…”

    Direct quote from, Arch Paedophile Jimmy Savile was a devout Zionist and an Israel supporter

    https://gilad.online/writings/arch-paedophile-jimmy-savile-was-a-devout-zionist-and-an-isr.html

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  178. @Hang All Text Drivers

    Sure. And Jack Ruby was killed almost immediately after that for no reason whatsoever. How plausible!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  179. Trinity says:
    @Malla

    The White “libtards” are not even liberals, they are leftist or closer to the truth, they are slaves to the Jewish ESTABLISHMENT aka “the man.” These fools go out there and fight for “racial equality and racial justice,” “fight against the man,” blah, blah, blah. What these white traitor trash bags are fighting FOR is their own genocide, anti-White racism, Jewish Supremacism, and their own enslavement. I have said on more than one occasion that while Whites all always bragging about how smart and brilliant they are or at least WERE a long time ago, facts don’t lie, Whites have contributed more in the way of inventions, technology, medicines, etc., than all other races combined, etc. The Whites that have existed in the past 100 years or so have proven themselves to be the dumbest people on the planet. They were dumb enough to slaughter each other in two world wars that helped bring in the downfall of the White race for example. Dumber than the Somalian with the double digit IQ even. Bragging about superior IQs which are completely worthless if you are dumb enough to allow your country to be taken over by a band of criminal international gypsies and allow your own civil rights to be taken away as well.

    • Agree: Druid
  180. @Anon

    If that is truly the case and no holography was used then I’d have to go with FB’s thesis that the planes were on remote control pre-planted explosives were detonated to bring the towers down..

  181. @AnonFromTN

    Fyi, ⭐AnonFromTN, Jack Rubinstein died of cancer in a Dallas hospital and never had opportunity to stand trial.

    • Replies: @Castellio
    , @Iris
    , @Duke84
  182. @PetrOldSack

    Quite a few of the writers on here actually get paid pretty decent for “journalists,” I know for a fact, paid by some rather shady donors. Follow the money.

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  183. anonymous[168] • Disclaimer says:

    Jimsy 168, in that case let me tell you about my binary options investment strategy for financial independence, with your keen critical intelligence you will doubtless make millions.

    This is a place where you got CIA pukes telling you with a straight face Israel killed JFK. When some unconnected Nancy Drew with no clearance can reel off conclusive open-source proof that CIA choreographed every move before, during, and after the coup as illegal domestic secret police with nationwide precision control. Just by sitting reading in the frickin library, she learns this.

    https://ourhiddenhistory.org/entry/lisa-pease-james-jesus-angleton-and-the-jfk-assassination-of-president-kennedy

    It’s all there right in your face in black and white, all your life. But some puke tells you otherwise with shit for evidence like you’re gonna buy it. This is how stupid they think you are.

    CIA killed JFK. CIA killed RFK.

    https://www.salon.com/2011/11/21/the_other_kennedy_conspiracy/

    CIA rules your fucking country because they can torture you and kill you and get away with it. No matter who the fuck you are. And they think you’ll sit there and pull your electoral pud again for some some bribed and blackmailed puppet ruler they could whack at will.

  184. Trinity says:
    @anonymous

    Oh boy, you really got me there. Sheesh, how will I ever recover after being attacked twice on the same thread and being called such names by people I hold in such high esteem. Oh dear. Doctor, doctor give me a cure.

    First off, my adopted screen name of “Trinity” is from a sequel of Western comedies made in the 1970’s. Check out the movies, I believe there were about 3 movies made in the Trinity series starring Terence Hill and Bud Spencer. Hep me, lawd, the douchebags are on the loose today and they are really hurting my feelings.

    • LOL: DaveE
    • Replies: @Druid
  185. geokat62 says:

    • Replies: @A123
    , @James Forrestal
  186. @Geowhizz

    Why did MI5 not kill him

    The answer you are seeking is, that some types of people see it as a question of honour. The fact that some mistaken and childish forms of honour are simply a prelude to suicide doesn’t appear to register very well with such people.

    In other words…

    “Gosh… We’d never do anything like that ! One doesn’t want to come across as a bad loser, old sport !!”

  187. A123 says:
    @geokat62

    How long before the Pedo Joe video shows up?

    This has to be the Democrat Party’s worst nightmare. Maxwell can trade tapes of Biden to avoid prosecution.

    PEACE 😇

  188. Herald says:
    @Herald

    So the second amendment doesn’t work for you.

  189. Castellio says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Dorothy Kilgallen was the only reporter to interview Jack Ruby after his killing of Oswald.

    She believed the Warren Commission was hiding the reality of the conspiracy to kill JFK. She was writing a book based on her research, but the manuscript and her notes disappeared on the same night she died. It was determined she “accidentally killed herself”.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski, Skeptikal
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  190. @Sparkon

    Like the rest of the world I watched the 2nd plane disappear into World Trade center 2, and when the nose emerged from the opposite side intact, I turned to my co-workers and said: “THIS IS BULLSHIT”, and went back to work. I think that video is still available in some places today. So I was convinced at that moment the entire scene was fake. It took many 10 years to come to the same conclusion, and many more have yet to wake up. Well, I call ‘BULLSHIT’ on the virus and on these race riots too. See y’all in 10 years.

  191. @Castellio

    Hey Castellio!

    ⭐⭐⭐! You know.

    Thank you.

  192. Iris says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Dear Mr O.;
    Jack Rubinstein allegedly died from a super-fast spreading lung cancer that would have gone undetected, shortly before his second trial and after he had accused on news camera President Johnson of being responsible for JFK’s assassination:

    A witness who visited Ruby in jail right until his death spoke up in 2013 about his apparent health condition:

    McCoy would visit Ruby behind bars three times. The last visit was right before his death. At that time, McCoy says Ruby appeared to be in good health. Ruby’s official cause of death was a pulmonary embolism caused by lung cancer. That’s something McCoy doesn’t believe for a second.
    “He didn’t have cancer,” said McCoy. “They poisoned him. Somebody did.”

    https://www.newson6.com/story/5e35a73b83eff40362be6f44/jack-ruby-friend-jail-visitor-breaks-silence-after-50-years

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  193. Ace says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    US elites should not have adopted policies that beggared the middle and working classes.

  194. Ace says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Considering what Anon just added I prefer the “actual plane” theory.

    The collapse of the Towers because fire weakened the girders seems also to fit better with the Occam’s Razor principle. Fuel burning in a confined space with minimal venting (or the effect of a fire storm?) might be able to raise the temperature higher than the combustion that takes place in the open air. No chemical or metallurgical expertise here, I readily admit.

    Rigging charges throughout the Towers on all four (?) structural columns without alerting the superb security chiefs for each Tower just is too implausible. But, as you say, that’s not your theory.

    I’m not one who’s avidly followed the 9/11 crashes. That doesn’t mean there aren’t some oddities. The Israelis, the traces of explosives in their van, the peculiar identity of the employer of the Israelis, the responsibility of an Israeli company for security in Boston, and the odd absence of photography of the crash site at the Pentagon. Almost zero photos.

    It’s like the Skripal poisoning in Wiltshire. The U.K. is the most surveilled state on the planet but the CCTV video record of the movements of the Skripals and what happened at the park bench is strangely unavailable. Ditto for the missing chain of custody paperwork for the Skripals’ bloodwork. A whole day passed before samples were received that had some provable chain of custody. I might have that a bit wrong but John Helmer of Dances with Bears has the precise info in one of his articles about the BBC fantasy production about the Skripal poisoning.

  195. @Ace

    I don’t know if you are right about a lack of photographs at the Pentagon. I recall one with the aircraft’s tail in a believable position. And the number of photos which could show something interesting or different might be so limited, compared with n NYC that it would explain the number.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Ace
  196. @Ace

    You might consider focussing on the telling fact that the building which was struck much lower down and had therefore much greater weight above the points of weakness collapsed in much less time after the crash than the first one struck higher up.

    A subsidiary point here is that planning the complicated demolition to fit the abilliy of the pilots to hit precisely at the right level stretches credibility.

    • Replies: @Ace
  197. Druid says:
    @Eighthman

    Some of those night-clubbing/alcohol-drinking “jihadis” are reported to be alive and well!

  198. Druid says:
    @Trinity

    Saw them all. Spaghetti westerns. They were great. Suggests my age. I actually saw them in theaters in South Africa, growing up

    • Replies: @Trinity
  199. Druid says:
    @Capablanca

    The jews were the only beneficiaries! The Jew neocons were salivating! Israel before 911 was losing credibility internationally, but after they were like YHWY’s. Guess who along with their minions/henchmen in New York an d DC did it?

  200. Wielgus says:
    @geokat62

    He was probably “Jewish” when talking to Jews, “friendly” to young girls before he molested them, an “adviser” to Charles and Diana on their marriage despite himself never marrying, enough of an “expert” on mental health to have the keys to Broadmoor hospital, where a male nurse commented that this was a classic case of a lunatic being in charge of the asylum… On a P&O ferry he bothered a 14-year-old girl but her parents were with her and unlike many they were not overawed by Savile and complained to the captain, who forced Savile to stay in his cabin where his meals were sent to him. The captain recommended that Savile not be allowed on P&O again. Few others seemed to have the measure of him.
    Using Savile for a bit of Jew-baiting does not convey the full horror of him by a long shot.

  201. Anon[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    It’s an interesting “pincer” movement: on the bottom, you produce fake grassroots movements to make demands on authorities (duping well meaning citizens with lofty rethoric); on the top, you buy legislators or Pedro Sanchez to graciously acquiesce to those demands, and pass the corresponding laws.
    It has been done before to fake Democratic life, but now it is globalized, scientific, flexible with just-in-time delivery. Worldwide activism on demand.

  202. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Wild, unsubstantiated Conspiracy Theories have been the bane of American Right Wing Conservatism for most of my life (I was born in 1961).

    Most of these Right Wing Conspiracy theories up through about the year 2000 were that “The Russians” were conspiring to TAKE OVER AMERICA and the entire Free World which somehow included backward mountain Muslim Jihadist tribes in Afghanistan. If you want to feel totally hopeless in American Conservative Right Wing thinking, re-watch that God Awful Rambo III movie where arch patriotic hero, Viet Nam War vet Johnny Rambo goes off to Afghanistan to help the Afghan freedom fighters (8th century Islamic Jihadists that morphed in to the Taliban) fight the evil Russians.

    I was ~ 16 years old when those mobs of dark, hairy Iranian Muslims overran the US Embassy in Tehran and kept Americans hostage for a year and pretty much sacked the Presidency of Jimmy Carter and we elected Ronald Reagan President in a 49 out 50 landslide. 1980s Reagan Conservatives should have simply noticed the great changes in the world and noticed the threat to the USA, the West was the exploding 3rd world populations, Jean Respail Camp of the Saints migrant invasions of the West – but Reagan wasted the 80s fighting the Russians in places like Afghanistan and lecturing Russian leader Michael Gorbachev “Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall”.

    I’m screaming at the TV – “no you senile, clueless Conservative – it’s not 1932 – we need the Russians to help us build the wall between the West and the 3rd world. BUILD THE WALL, BUILD THE WALL”.

    Anyway now it’s the hate White people Lib Leftists, Neo Conservative, Zionists and to a lesser extent American Christian ZIonists who are obsessed with Russian Plots to TAKE OVER AMERICA! Evil racist, anti Jewish Russians supposedly STOLE THE ELECTION FROM HILLARY by making some Facebook post calling Hillary a Bitc*.

    Hillary and her Saudi Arabia Chief of Staff Abdullah something (married to Zionist texting, Sexting pervert Anthony Weiner) really were/are bitches.

    That said – straight out of Central Casting, international $ money changer J#W financier/Cult Marxist George Soros really does massively fund anti Western subversive movements like BlackLiesMatter. Soros’ open borders foundation funded and helped elect our Chicago Cook County DA Kim Foxx. Kim Believes Black African Americans should pretty much be exempt from any punishment for crimes like car jacking, wilding attacks, mass looting and even murder.

    Sensible, successful populist/nationalists leaders like Victor Orban in Hungary have made George Soros the #1 bad guy – the Star Wars Evil Emperor and given the boot to Soros’ Open Borders Foundation.

    But American Conservative Inc won’t do this – that’s something HITLER would do, ie run effective political campaigns against mass Communist riots, looting, oppose International Finance $ money changers, oppose mass inflation and mass unemployment.

    American Conservative Inc prefers to keep chugging along pandering to AIPAC and the .4% ~ 0 % of American Jews that might vote GOP.

    Some things that fall in to the “Conspiracy theory” sh** really are just observations about true, unpleasant facts like the FACT that an ethnic Jewish mafia really does dominate the US mass Media, all Hollywood studios and now all Cable TV news networks. Tucker Carlson might be the last honest White guy on American Cable TV and he’s in the cross hair by the Chosen to get taken out same as Bill O’Reilly.

    What do we do?

    I suggest getting the electronic device TV B Gone- it Zaps off Zio Media everywhere including Airport lounges.

    Other things to do – get more of your news and commentary from Russia Today and other Eastern European countries that produce English language news.

    Also try to keep a sense of humor and a stiff upper lip – the Dis United USA is falling down in to 1967-69 racial, criminal and Leftist political anarchy- look around for some tough guys, preferable tough Italian guys like Philly police chief/mayor Frank Rizo or Sherif Joe A.

    Have some fun out there and don’t fall down in to wild, unsubstantiated conspiracy theory where everything is supposedly controlled, evil and the only thing we can do is to vote 3rd party Libertarian Constitutionalists who always win less than 0%.

  203. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Trinity

    Trinity writes:

    “The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion ( Seems like everything written has become true?)”

    I respond:

    It’s always been charged that the Protocols are a “Forgery” and they probably are a forgery.

    But remember, a “forgery” is a copy of an original.

    If a copy of an original fits the facts, is documented by honest J people like LA Times writer Joel Stein

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.html&#8221;

    The reality is that having CNN on in your bar, family living room is the same as having, fat hateful J Jeff Zucker given the floor to insult and threaten you, corrupt your children.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Wizard of Oz
  204. @Ace

    “The collapse of the Towers because fire weakened the girders seems also to fit better with the Occam’s Razor principle. Fuel burning in a confined space with minimal venting (or the effect of a fire storm?) might be able to raise the temperature higher than the combustion that takes place in the open air. No chemical or metallurgical expertise here, I readily admit.”

    But the thing is, you can’t have “fuel burning in a confined space with minimal venting” and expect to generate much heat. This is one of the fundamental problems with the official narrative, IMO. And the more air flow you have, the more heat loss by convection you have.

    Years ago I did a few rough calculations on the airflow required to heat one WTC floor’s worth of steel and concrete thermal mass to 700 degrees C in one hour (and this was neglecting heat loss by conduction and radiation) and the numbers I got (assuming typical heat efficiency of a “fireplace”) were astronomical.

    • Replies: @Ace
  205. Trinity says:
    @Druid

    I’ll turn fitty-nine on July 18th, hard to believe but we only have two choices, die young or grow old. Still I am glad I grew up when I did, I at least was able to see America when it was REALLY AMERICA. I grew up in the Seventies and America was starting to show some rather pressing issues then but it was paradise compared to what the young, ( particularly White youngsters) have to endure today. And I was blessed to be around when music was worth listening to, and even Jewywood put out a decent movie every now and then, the Trinity movies among them.

    Speaking of the youngsters, you under 40 somethings really should stop placing all that blame on the Boomers and direct it towards the real villains who DESTROYED AMERICA. First and foremost, the so-called, “Greatest Generation” lead the pack, followed by “the Silent Generation.” These were the two main culprits in sending America on a downward spiral. And alas before you lay blame on the Boomers, take a good hard look at the Millenials, Zoomers, Gen Xers or whatever those who followed the Boomers tag themselves with. Your groups are pathetic. Emasculated males, androgynous females, physically and mentally weak, lazy, cowardly, race traitors, the list goes on, and you youngsters might even take the number one spot from the Greatest Generation. Oops, I’m ranting and raving again and totally off the reservation and I haven’t even had my coffee yet. Sorry.

    • Agree: anaccount, anarchyst
  206. Trinity says:
    @anonymous

    haha. Nice cartoon. Yes siree, the Talmudvision has been doing the job since the Walter Cronkite days and even before then. I love how the clueless goyim point to Walter Cronkite as “the most trusted man in America.”

    Jews pretending to be “Nazis” on the Doprah Pigfrey Show confessing how wrong they were for espousing racism towards Blacks, Jews, and others nonwhites. haha. The Jewish couple who LIED about meeting each other in a concentration camp, “but it was real in my mind.” Catch (((these people))) in a lie and it doesn’t even faze them, they move on to orchestrate another lie. Remember the chain smoking Jewish clown with the Irish surname, Morton Downey Jr. and his scripted show? Downey Jr. would have his 15 minutes, he was the original (((Jerry Springer))) back in the day. Downey Jr.’s credibility took a drop when he staged a FAKE incident where he was allegedly attacked by skinheads in some airport ( forget which city.) The proof that this was yet another FAKE HOAX might have been the backward Swastikas that adorned Downey Jr.’s ugly mug. smdh and lolol. Besides Doprah, we had the definitive neutered and emasculated cuckold named Phil Donahue. My gawd, can a straight heterosexual male act any more gay than Donahue?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  207. Meimou says:
    @Ace

    The collapse of the Towers because fire weakened the girders seems also to fit better with the Occam’s Razor principle

    Only to those inclined to believe in the official narrative and believe what they were told instead of what they saw. The towers simply didn’t “collapse”, they exploded. Debris ejected outward. A steel beam even got stuck in another building. A fire cannot do that.

    • Replies: @Ace
  208. Meimou says:
    @Ace

    Rigging charges throughout the Towers on all four (?) structural columns without alerting the superb security chiefs for each Tower just is too implausible. But, as you say, that’s not your theory.

    1.How do you know they were superb?

    2. If the CT theory is true security would have been certainly compromised.

    3. The improbability of placing explosives in the towers it doesn’t change the impossibility of a fire making wtc1&2 explode or wtc7 implode.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Ace
  209. Dustin says:
    @Colin Wright

    No that’s not cheap in terms of your average, middle-class, American households, but fo the Soros’s, the Gate’s, the Bezos’s, and hell, even the Trumps, the costs of resources & the disposable
    Of immigrants, actors/paid rioters or not, reliable manpower amount of money in total to successfully do so and stay off people’s ‘corruption alert-radars’ is still literally ‘Chump Change’ w/ regards to The Elites average total net-worth. Like the amount of change a middle-income person finds in their couch!!

  210. @ChuckOrloski

    And in addition to that, Iran seems to be having some serious problems with fires and explosions recently, and then there’s this:

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/07/03/US-seeks-seizure-of-4-Iranian-tankers-shipping-gas-to-Venezuela/7311593761264/

    Apparently team orange clown realizes he wont be reelected (if there’s an election later this year) so they’re stepping up their efforts to start a major war. It seems these next few months are going to be very dangerous.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  211. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Trinity

    Goeie Middag Trinity – glad you liked my/Farstar’s cartoons.

    Here are some more of mine/ours. Most of the ideas are mine, Farstar is the excellent artist who brings them to life.

    https://artoffarstar88.wordpress.com

    I believe it’s best to finesse the JQ a lot -sure , notice and speak out against very real, hateful and just bad things done by very real bad J people, J groups, but it’s not generally successful to obsess on the JQ or blamed them for everything bad like this coast to coast Antifa/BLM rioters, looting. So many bad, cowardly White Gentiles like Utah Sen. Mittens Romney “taking the knee”.

    Also, I recommend trying to find positive things, people, trends in the real world – all is not gloom and doom. Central and Eastern Europe look and feel great.

    If you get down on events in North America – do a search on the video of Russian Cossacks reborn breaking up a cult Marxist Pussy Riot Demonstration. The Cossacks spray the Pussy Riot gal with pepper spray, whip them with Cossack whips and call them “American Whores”.

    Got to love the fact that the patriotic Cossacks are back in the saddle in holly Mother Russia.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  212. geokat62 says:

    “The U.S.-Israel relationship protects our troops.”

    The level of chutzpah is off the charts!

    Rather than protecting the troops, the special relationship puts them in harms way.

  213. Skeptikal says:
    @Iris

    I couldn’t understand what was said on the embedded video.

    Could you transcribe it, and ID the speakers?

    Thx.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Olivier1973
  214. Skeptikal says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I believe all the videos from webcams at nearby businesses and other buildings have been impounded and have never been made public.

    • Replies: @Ace
  215. Skeptikal says:
    @Colin Wright

    You may be right.

    But whatever the story/cost/backers of the trek itself, the fact is that Honduras was made into a walking and living hell by the State Department-backed coup that toppled a democratically elected president, Zelaya.

    We talk a lot about Hillary’s mismanagement cum cackling about the mess she created in Libya and the awful death of Qaddafi, but shtum’s the word on Honduras.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/world/americas/29honduras.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Honduran_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Human_rights_abuses_of_the_interim_government

  216. Iris says:
    @Skeptikal

    Hey. The dialogue was between Jack Rubinstein and a journalist, to whom Ruby clarified an answer he previously gave. One can guess from the dialogue what the journalist’s question was.

    Ruby: I want to correct what I said before about the Vice-President.
    Journalist: The Vice President?
    Ruby: Yes I do. When I mentioned about Adlai Stevenson. If he was Vice President there would never have been an assassination of our beloved President Kennedy.
    Journalist: Would you explain again?
    Ruby: Well, the answer is the man in office now.

    From 0:45 with captions:

  217. geokat62 says:

    • Thanks: Iris
  218. Duke84 says:
    @Ace

    Yes C399 was ballistically matched to Oswald’s Carcano and he used a Smith and Wesson .38 to murder officer Tippit.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Iris
  219. Duke84 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    He did stand trial in 1964 and was convicted of Oswald’s murder.He died three years later in January of 1967.

    • Replies: @Iris
  220. @anonymous

    Wrong about forgeries generally. The Donation of Constantine was a forgery that had no genuine original. E.g. (Likewise cheques)

  221. @Harold Smith

    Hey Harold Smith!

    Re; article linked down below, Russia has lobbed back the manipulative bounty claim, and outed US for drug trafficking.

    Fyi, President Putin’s special envoy for Afghanistan affairs, Zamir Kabulov, accused US intelligence operatives (in Afghanistan) of drug trafficking.

    I suspect our Zio media will soon tell both the “orange clown” and us how the killer deals all went down.🤪

    Thank you very much, Harold.

    https://tolonews.com/afghanistan/russia-answers-bounty-claims-says-us-drug-trafficking

    • Replies: @Albert F.
  222. Iris says:
    @Duke84

    The “Magic Bullet” forensic evidence was the most safe-defeating proof by which the Warren Conmmission shot itself in both feet and proved the total absurdity of its conclusions.

    The bullet allegedly shot by Oswald and found on a stretcher at Parkland Hospital (just after Jack Ruby visited the hospital) was absolutely pristine.

    An identical test bullet, shot on cadaver wrists for experimentation by the WC, came out flttened and deformed.

    They were put side by side in Exhibit CE 399, as a perpetual reminder of the mockery the Warren Commission was. Meet the pristine “Magic Bullet”:

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Duke84
  223. @obwandiyag

    Would gladly discuss this with you, one on one, say e-mail. I am convinced that what you say could have substance. The way some here got peddling the medical effect of Corona and insisted on it, is quite timely an indicator for one, the Jewishness(and the silence about it by all) of the writers is also quite “beyond” to be discussed, another strong indicator.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  224. Iris says:
    @Duke84

    Rubinstein did kill Oswald all right, but Oswald did not kill anybody, and did not even fire a gun.

    So why did Ruby really kill Oswald?
    As per his own confession to his Rabbi, Ruby “did it for the Jewish people“.

  225. @Iris

    Dear Iris!

    Lee Harvey Oswald was James Jesus Angleton’s creature from cradle to grave.

    Fyi, I prefer to ignore Duke84.

    • Replies: @Iris
  226. Barzini says:

    With regard to the coronavirus hysteria, I would make two observations. First, in big events of this magnitude the official government version put forward by the MSM does not hold up. Secondly, the truth will come out. Neither Giraldi’s observations nor those of the various conspiracy theorists will likely hold up. These things take years. So don’t take anything you read on this website too seriously. You have to be patient.

  227. Iris says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Lee Harvey Oswald was James Jesus Angleton’s creature from cradle to grave.

    Maybe, dear Mr O. Oswald was a complex persona.

    It becomes obvious after reading JFK assassination material that Oswald was a US intelligence asset all along, that he did not fire a single shot, and that he’d been long set up as a patsy for a carefully prepared operation.

    He was not meant to be taken alive to the Dallas Police Deprtment.
    He was smart enough to quickly understand he’d been set up. By unexpectedly escaping the TSBD and deliberately missing his appointment with Officer Tippit, he escaped the planned early execution and set up in motion a chain of event that greatly uncovered the conspiracy.

    The second major hiccup of the JFK assassination conspiracy was that the main sniper behind JFK failed several attempts to deliver a headshot, triggering another hitman to do so from the Grassy Knoll. Hope all is well; kind regards.

  228. anaccount says:

    I hoped to learn something new from this conspiracy article but instead I read an establishment riff on Corona and a pretty basic Soros rant. Bill O’Reilly was trash talking Soros twenty years ago on my dad’s TV. Tell me something I don’t know.

  229. @PetrOldSack

    Sorry, but you won’t like me, because I believe the coronavirus is very real and very much a bioweapon.

    Most people on here want it to be both a hoax and a bioweapon. Which is impossible.

    Cognitive dissonance is no problem for them.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  230. @Skeptikal

    Everyone who had a look into JFK assassination knows that it was a conspiracy led by LBJ and Allen Dulles whose brother was Major of Dallas. JR testimony is only one small piece of testimony of that fact.

    Died like Epstein. US prisons are not safe when the power of some people are in jeopardy.

    I guess this book was never translated into English:

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3830527-jfk-le-dernier-t-moin

    What a pity. You have the confession of an insider.

  231. @Iris

    The second major hiccup of the JFK assassination conspiracy was that the main sniper behind JFK failed several attempts to deliver a headshot,

    One succeeded when the limo stopped. Just a fraction of a second before the headshot from the front with a special bullet. There were at least three snipers.

    Also the Z film was massively edited. Reymond saw the unedited film and the conspiracy is in plain sight. A bullet stuck the Stemmons Freeway Sign. And quickly that road sign was removed. Like the windshield of the limo, also stuck by bullet.

    • Replies: @Iris
  232. Sparkon says:
    @Iris

    No, the first shot hit Pres. Kennedy in the throat, and was fired from in front of the motorcade.

    The famous Ike Altgens photograph taken seconds after the first shot shows JFK clutching at his throat, Jackie reaching over to him, a bullet hole in the windshield of the limo, and Oswald standing in the doorway of the TSBD.

    At least 6 witnesses saw the bullet hole in the windshield. Douglas P. Horne reports:

    [MORE]

    1) Dallas motorcycle patrolmen Stavis Ellis and H. R. Freeman both observed a penetrating bullet hole in the limousine windshield at Parkland Hospital. Ellis told interviewer Gil Toff in 1971: “There was a hole in the left front windshield…You could put a pencil through it…you could take a regular standard writing pencil…and stick [it] through there.” Freeman corroborated this, saying: “[I was] right beside it. I could of [sic] touched it…it was a bullet hole. You could tell what it was.” [David Lifton published these quotations in his 1980 book, Best Evidence.]

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/06/douglas-p-horne/photographic-evidence-of-bullet-hole-in-jfk-limousine-windshield-hiding-in-plain-sight/

    Nigel Turner, in his documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy identified George Whitaker Sr, as the Ford Motor Company employee mentioned in Weldon’s work. Douglas Horne, in his book, Inside the ARRB pg 1447 also identified Whitaker as the employee who witnessed the condition of the windshield, and verified that the hole had been caused by a shot from the front, with fragmentation and beveling present on the inside. Shards of this fragmentation called stippling, were known to have struck the President in the face and neck. These were later removed and its effects covered with wax during the process of embalming and preparation of the body for burial.

    Caption: Professor Jim Fetzer poses at the location believed to have been the position of the sniper who shot JFK through the windshield and his throat. Nice and cozy, well protected, and out of view.

    http://merdist.com/wp/2018/12/02/the-shot-from-the-front/

    • Replies: @Iris
  233. anastasia says:

    Brother. All that is happening and he still doesn’t see it for what it is.

  234. Duke84 says:
    @Iris

    CE 399 was in no way pristine.More boneheaded conspiracy nonsense.

  235. Albert F. says:

    Why is everyone so enthralled by “conspiracy theories “? This economy based on the Asians giving gold based credit accounts to favored militaristic capitalists of the world is almost as old as the use of gold as a currency. Every disaster begins with a cabal of warriors fueled with cheap capital and an army of cheap labor. When are the people of the U.S. going to wake up and stop turning on the t.v. looking for ‘news’?

  236. @04398436986

    actually, it was the anglo-american who decided to kill every single buffalo on the north american continent. the reason? because it was the food source for the indians. this is common knowledge to anyone with wild west relatives or anyone descended from us army operations during the wild west.

    spaniards had sex with natives. anglos raped natives then killed them and their buffaloes.

    simple as that. different attitudes towards others. two different empires.

    who kills buffaloes just to watch them die? the anglos.

  237. Albert F. says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Since U.S. Marines landed in the ‘Stan’, opium poppy cultivation has risen by 1,000%. If that ain’t dope dealing, I don’t know what is!

    • Agree: Trinity, ChuckOrloski
  238. Willow626 says:
    @another fred

    Yet with so many of the conspiracies you keep coming across the same names or family lines.

  239. Iris says:
    @Sparkon

    At least 6 witnesses saw the bullet hole in the windshield

    Oh, there is not a shadow of a doubt that JFK limousine’s windscreen was hit, the limo flown to the Ford Rouge factory, and the windscreen replaced.

    But it does not mean that the windscreen was necessarily hit from the front. Missed shots from behind JFK could also have caused the windscreen hole reported by eyewitnesses.

    JFK’s throat wound remains a point for which no satisfactory explanation, of superior plausibility to the others, has imposed itself.

    Actually, this striking animation of real pictures of JFK’s shirt would indicate that no bullet entered his throat (we know that Parkland doctors later performed a tracheotomy on the dying President).
    So maybe JFK’s grabbing his throat was just a breathing reflex, after a bullet hit his back.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  240. Iris says:
    @Olivier1973

    Reymond saw the unedited film and the conspiracy is in plain sight

    Indeed, Olivier. The Zapruder film was edited, but this could only be done with the crude and unsophisticated techniques of the time.

    What was called “the French Zapruder film” was reputed to be an unedited version that secretely circulated in France late 60’s-early 70’s, showing the limousine total stop in front of the Grassy Knoll in particular. Author William Reymond claims to have watched it.

  241. Ace says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Thank you. I was unaware of the photo of the tail. I haven’t exactly scoured the internet for 9/11 photos but with the prominence of the charge that an aircraft couldn’t maneuver so, only a missile, I expected there to be a more ubiquitous refutation. There seemed to be a strange overall paucity of photos of anything at the Pentagon other than of building damage.

  242. Ace says:
    @Skeptikal

    Ah hah! Thanks.

    Totally believable. They’ll probably go missing like the x-ray(s) of JFK’s and Foster’s skulls. 🙂

  243. Ace says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Both good points, esp. the second one. It’s one thing to, say, rig the charges but something else to have the planes hit a prearranged floor.

  244. Sparkon says:
    @Iris

    But it does not mean that the windscreen was necessarily hit from the front. Missed shots from behind JFK could also have caused the windscreen hole reported by eyewitnesses.

    No, the direction of the shot was determined by the characteristics of the bullet hole in the windshield by at least two knowlegable people who saw it. That point was already addressed in my previous comment, but Giraldi hid it behind the MORE tag.

    …Whitaker as the employee who witnessed the condition of the windshield, and verified that the hole had been caused by a shot from the front, with fragmentation and beveling present on the inside.

    • Replies: @Iris
  245. Iris says:
    @Sparkon

    What you say is correct. After the anonymous confession Whitaker made to Doug Weldon in 1993, he wrote a testimony to be made public after his death, which ocurred in 2001.

    In Episode 7 of “The Men Who Killed Kennedy“, entitled “The Smoking Guns,” the text of Whitaker’s memo can be read on freezed frames. It said:

    “When arrived at the lab the door was locked. I was let in. There were 2 glass engineers there. They had a car windshield that had a bullet hole in it. The hole was about 4 or 6 inches to the right of the rear view mirror [as viewed from the front]. The impact had come from the front of the windshield. (If you have spent 40 years in the glass [illegible] you know which way the impack [sic] was from.”

    However, no other evidence supports an early shot from the front: in particular, why would the perpetrators have rushed shooting at their accomplices, SS agents and Connolly, who were in the way?

    Ambush techniques require triangulation of fire, one shooter behind and another parallel to the moving target’s trajectory. This configuration concurs with the very precise information Attorney Garrison got at the time: there was 3 teams of assassins, one behind the limousine, two at the Grassy Knoll.

    • Replies: @Castellio
  246. @Meimou

    The explosion you refer to is inconsistent with the description Ron Unz has given of collapsing into their own footprints. But, as it happens, yours is a more accurate description. The trouble is it doesn’t prove demolition by explosives. There would be plenty of horizontal vectors created by the pressures created by the collapsing thousands of tons of superstructure on to the floors below

  247. Ace says:
    @Harold Smith

    Touche. Perhaps I can save my argument by positing extreme absorption of heat by building materials in the interior, i.e., insufficient cooling.

    I wonder, too, if the conditions were such as to make a firestorm less likely due to the small entrance hole. I don’t recall an exit hole. If not, all air intake would have to be through the entrance hole and, maybe, from small building ventilation ducts. Highly restricted flow? Ditto even if there were exit holes?

    But then perhaps even a non-firestorm could transfer enormous heat to the structure.

    Not to discount these arguments about heat but I do think it’s possible to overthink this. Underthinking is bad too but, when one gets down to the basics the fact is that one plane flew into each tower. No question. Fires erupted. The buildings came down. (Or, to borrow from Bill de Blasio, down came the buildings. ) :–) It’s that simple. The “fake moon landing” crowd will never quit but it seems indisputable that those planes just might have had something to do with the collapse of the towers.

    That leaves the critical inquiries as who and why which is where I suspect the mother lode is. Finding it is no mean feat as it is beyond clear now that we live under a ten-mile-high ocean of lies, as Mr. Unz’s American Pravda series makes crystal clear. That said, the whole Silverstein affair calls to mind the Richard Pryor witticism, “You gonna believe what I’m sayin’ or are you gonna believe your lyin’ eyes?”

  248. Ace says:
    @Meimou

    I don’t doubt the explosion(s) outward as the structures pancaked into the ground. Debris is seen escaping outward as the tower collapsed. My guess is that it looks consistent with each floor collapsing under the weight of the collapsed upper floors with air being compressed and expelled at each level. I’m not wedded to that but, again, keeping it simple stays away from the complicated “emplaced explosives” theory I prefer to think the physics of a huge building’s collapse would involve some very powerful internal forces.

    • Replies: @paranoid goy
  249. Ace says:
    @Meimou

    1. The security chief of one tower was a retired FBI man. I don’t recall the details of his career but he was a standup guy and wouldn’t have allowed any charges to be emplaced in his building. Professional demolition techs drill holes in beams and run detonation cord up and down through holes drilled in floors and ceilings. Nothing even remotely like that could go undetected by guards and maintenance staff, not to mention the foot traffic that would have been involved in setting such a complicated array of charges.

    The other security chief was an infantry platoon leader in Nam who appears to have exemplified every quality of the perfect combat leader who got the job done but also deeply cared about his men.

    So I base my assessment of the men on what I’ve read about them in the past. Sorry, no links readily at hand.

    2. Correct. But the compromise theory requires both of the above outstanding men to have chosen to become greasy betrayers of their fellow citizens. I think they were exactly like the female fighter pilot whose fighter could not be loaded with ammo quickly enough. She was, however, willing to intercept the flight over Pennsylvania and endanger her life by using the wing of her aircraft to bring down the airliner. I believe many of my fellow officer candidates and unit officers would have acted in the same way. They would have done their duty and not tolerated a betrayal of any kind.

    3. I’m not convinced of that impossibility. It is more likely that the explosives theory is an impossibility AND the precise mechanism or sequence of events that collapsed the towers is, arguably, not properly understood at this time.

  250. There are two types of conspiracies. Fake one which is produced by the elite and visible everywhere, and a true one invisible or almost invisible because the elite prevent their publishing.

  251. ariadna says:
    @Duke84

    You’re a funny guy. Master of the genre known as unconscious humor

  252. Castellio says:
    @Iris

    Iris… I have a question I am hoping you can answer. What’s the story with the book JFK & The Unspeakable? I look in the index and ‘Israel’ is not there, and yet the book purportedly deals with (among other things) JFK’s desire to impede the proliferation of nuclear weapons. Great detail on some issues, and yet this yawning void on others. What is going on? Do you know?

    • Replies: @Iris
  253. Iris says:
    @Castellio

    Hello. I am sure many knowledgeable commenters here can answer your question, and I hope they will too.

    As for me, I loved “JFK and the Unspeakable”, and I believe it is the very best among the politically-correct books written abouk JFK’s assassination. By politically-correct, I mean those books one can mention as a reference, in an article, in public or in a converstaion, without risking being labelled a conspiracy theorist or an anti-Semite.

    James Douglass has exposed very convincingly and intelligently the core reason why JFK was murdered: he wanted to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons, stop the arm race, and had become a peace warrior.

    Once this is established, readers can draw their own conclusions as per who most likely and obviously conspired to kill the President: the MIC and Israel.

    But such a thing cannot be said openly in our time and age. So the real question is: is it permitted to criticise Isreal? And the answer is a resounding “No”. Not even if Isreal is obviously involved in organising the killing of a US president, or masterminding an act of genocide wiping out 3000 Americans in exploded towers.

    James Douglass has carried over a crucially important message to the public; he cannot be blamed for the dictatorial times we live in. Best.

    • Agree: Robjil
  254. JWalters says:
    @another fred

    I agree that not one group is in control at a global level. But in the Anglo-American empire there are a lot of strings that appear to go to a single control center. For example, see War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    I have not looked into Soros, but anybody analyzing the conflicts in the Middle East without mentioning Israel’s giant role is at best suspicious.

  255. KA says:

    Wikileaks have dumped lot of cables showing the depravities of Israel and American acquiescence to the open barbarism but was not covered by the media . Media focussed on exposures of American German British Pakistan and lot of other nations but did not cover Israel. This silence was used as evidence of Wikileaks being soft on Israel and Assange being a stooge or plant of Israel. A conspiracy was hatched to discredit Wikileaks and it had succeeded .

    https://consortiumnews.com/2020/07/09/the-revelations-of-wikileaks-no-8-busting-the-myth-wikileaks-published-nothing-on-israel-syria/

  256. @A123

    The most powerful ‘Muslim’ on the planet is George ‘IslamoSoros’ and blablabla

    In other words:
    “B-b-but Gyorgy Swartz is an ARAB, not a JEW!!! HONEST!!! PLEASE believe me, goyi… I mean My Fellow White People!!!”

    lol

    Not only is Mr. Schwartz indisputably a member of the Tribe of Supreme Victims according to any mainstream interpretation of halachic law, but the ideology that he promotes is, of course, classic rootless cosmopolitanism. And he clearly qualifies to make aliyah under the Law of “Return,” of course.

  257. @geokat62

    I hope Epstein made videos
    There have been suggestions that Epstein made secret videos of all the men who had sex in his houses and planes. I hope he did and they are all revealed, because they will prove I am not among them. I hereby waive any right of privacy in Epstein videos.

    Uh huh. What Dershowitz really means, of course, is:
    “As a fanatical Zionist, I’m confident that I have the full backing of the Mossad — they would never release the videos they have of ME — we’re on the same side here.”

    See also this recent development in the Guiffre vs. Dershowitz case:

    “Attorneys representing Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre must destroy evidence from her case against Ghislaine Maxwell after improperly gaining access to documents”

    Seems like a pretty strong “suggestion.” Remember the coverage from when the FBI raided the Epstein/ Wexner mansion in NYC a year ago?

    “It added that the search uncovered ‘at least hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of sexually suggestive photographs of fully- or partially nude females.’

    A number of those photographs ‘appear to be of underage girls, including at least one girl who, according to her counsel, was underage at the time the relevant photographs were taken.’

    It is also noted that some photos were discovered in a locked safe, where agents ‘also found compact discs with hand-written labels including the following: “Young [Name] + [Name],” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.”‘

    Note also how Dershowitz frames the issue in the above tweet:
    Epstein made videos”
    Epstein made secret videos”
    he did”
    Epstein videos”

    He’s really hammering away on muh one man, acting alone — no Wexner, no Israeli or US security services/ intelligence agencies… this one guy did it all by himself. And he’s dead.

    Seems like a change in emphasis from last year’s New York Mag interview*, where Dershowitz seemed determined to name-drop as many prominent individuals as possible (Shimon Peres, John Glenn, etc.) as close Epstein/ Wexner associates, including this interesting claim:

    “A family friend, Lynn Forester de Rothschild, he said, invited him to a party for her husband, Lord Rothschild, where she introduced him to Jeffrey Epstein. “She said, ‘I have this friend, he really would like to meet you,’” Dershowitz said.”

    Sure, his intent was likely to portray it as “Look at all of these prominent, “respected” individuals who were friends with the guy. How was I supposed to know?” But it can easily by interpreted as yet another “conspiracy theory”…

    *Possibly relevant — the NY Mag interview was in July. Epstein died in August.

  258. I thought this Giraldi was serious among dimwits you usually this site, but nope I was wrong
    First goes on a rant about Soros history, then somehow ties it to riots that made me most proud of my state and city, we are not accepting anymore cop crimes, get that thru your skull for a minute.

    I am a proud immigrant

    And, no I am not scared of you, go to hell.

  259. @Sparkon

    From the very beginning, Gallup Polls have shown that a majority of Americans have rejected the idea that Oswald acted alone.

    So how do you deal with that from the narrative control standpoint? As Alden (comment #160) notes:

    There are so many theories about the John Kennedy assassination they cancel each other out.

    This is not an accident. If there’s too much skepticism about the officially-endorsed narrative… just promote multiple conflicting alternative narratives, with emphasis on the more ridiculous/ improbable ones. See also 9/11 and muh “holographic planes.”

  260. DrWatson says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Thanks for this link. Some of the information provided in the wikipedia article is new to me. I was living in the US at the time of the attack so naturally I was following the developments closely. Unless somebody provides evidence that this is indeed that happened I doubt it (i.e. that Odigo got a message with an antisemitic slur about the impending attack, without specifically naming the location of the attack). It also contradicts the story about the “dancing Israelis” https://dancingisraelis.com/.

  261. DrWatson says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I bet the evidence is not there anymore. There used to be a country-wise stat after 9/11 listing the nationality of the victims perished in the WTC on that day. There was only one Israeli, a rabbi, in the Windows on the World restaurant (top of the building) who was on vacation and apparently not “well-connected” enough to be notified.

  262. @04398436986

    The article irritated me endlessly. Then came your comment. As senseless as the article, congrats for being ultra relevant, at least as far as poor form and lack of sense goes.
    I think you and giraldi conspired against me for the purposes of wasting my internet data…

  263. @Ace

    That “pancake” collapse has never happened before or after. Thousands of engineers working together using the most modern modelling tools, could not get that to happen even on a computer, where perfect situations are taken for granted. Yet the official explanation revolves around some vision of perfect theoretical…what the hell, they never even bothered to prove anything with science, as a matter of fact, their one and only defence against criticism of their “theories” was some suited wanker standing on my teevee telling me that “questioning the official explanation is blasphemy” Yes, the little bastard actually used the term “blasphemy”!
    Why are we still arguing about this? By now, the only people still hung up on 911 terrorists, are the ones protecting the perpetrators. I you have ANY doubts about the “official narrative”, then tell us about those passports that survived the magnificent crash that “melted steel beams”. Come on, you are so logical and beloved of truth, explain the passports, please. If you swallow that bull, you probably believe Covid-19 is a health crisis.
    There ain’t no pills for willful ignorance.
    Insurance fraud is not a conspiracy theory, it is a crime against the lord Mammon.

    https://greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/32-paranoid-goy/economics/109-911-wayleave
    https://greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/12-paranoid-goy/165-911fraud

    • Replies: @Ace
  264. Ace says:
    @paranoid goy

    Forgive me if I retain a smidgen of skepticism about modeling software. Michael Mann and that jasper in England whose killer modeling software for the spread of Covid-19 come to mind as cautionary tales about modeling. But that doesn’t mean the modeling tools to which you refer aren’t up to the task. As to that, I have to say I’ll give credence to the results you describe if there is some expert assessment of those tools, presumably software tools. Having someone point to a purple box and telling me some conclusions came out of it isn’t persuasive on any point.

    Too, your expert analysts remind of the presumably apocryphal story of the engineers who analyzed the bumble bee and concluded that according to all the known laws of physics and aerodynamics it’s impossible that such a creature could fly.

    I have no problem with anyone questioning the official narrative. Given what’s come out about Russiagate and the tidal waves of lies that surround our grisly involvement in Syria and our stupid hostility to Russia and Iran, I think that should go without saying.

    I’ve heard of those passports but never seen a photo of them. Assuming they were found in pristine shape in the rubble, I can only say it seems impossible they could have been on the person of any hijacker and survived what happened after the a/c struck the tower. Perhaps they were in luggage in the hold and somehow were protected from the extreme heat by the surviving (?) fuselage/luggage compartment long enough for the collapse to occur. There’s the question of what else was discovered in the rubble. If there were other intact personal articles lying around the existence of the passports might not seem so weird.

    Not my deal and I have no intention of studying this in detail. Let others do that. I do, however, start from the position that a big ass aircraft that slams into a very tall building and creates a massive fire is probably what caused the tower to come down. Call me crazy but that seems the simplest explanation whereas all the other “explanations” seem forced to me and to require several layers of well-hidden teamwork to make sense.

  265. Engineering models are not to be confused with statistical models. Engineers rely on decades and centuries of tests and records of materials and construction methods to predict the behaviour of structures under various stresses, and unlike the models used for global warming, Covert-19 scaremongering and economics theories, engineering models take no account of the political affiliations or moral standpoint of the person utilising the model.
    The engineering software used to model millions of scenarios for 911 was open, free and thousands of people spent their time and processing power to reconstract the fairytale of a building falling down in its own footprint after a plane crash, and not one came close to the fabulous nonsense sold for 911.
    https://www.ae911truth.org/
    Go see the ‘Net for many, many photos of aeroplanes shot down by missiles, flying into structures… Engineers have a joke about building weapons from cheap plastic sunglasses, at every crash site, you always find lots of them in perfect condition! Which brings us to the the debris at the crash sites:Nothing! They found one wheel 15 or 25 miles from the Pennsylvania “crash site” that is actually just a rural rubbish pit. The various pictures offered as ‘plane parts in New York are either bits of aircon ducting, a lift hoist motor and just photoshopped nonsense. The only debris ever found was that darn passport, “came fluttering down at the feet of a FBI agent” we are told. Who keeps his passport in the luggage compartment, anyway? Just like Charlie Hebdo, where the “terries” stopped to pick up a lost shoe, and dropped a passport? These bastards think we are so dumb, they even use the same childish nonsense lies!
    And just to be sure, “Jet Fuel” is actually kerosene, go melt a needle with your Zippo and then we talk about plane fuel melting structural steel, which is much harder than, say, fence posts.
    I must ask, though: did you follow my link to the article showing the whole thing was insurance fraud?
    https://greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/32-paranoid-goy/economics/109-911-wayleave
    There really were no terrorists, no missiles (Pentagon excepted) and no Arabs with boxcutters. For heaven’s sake, one of those terrorists’ mama actually tried to sue for libel, her “dead terrorist” son is sitting right there in her kitchen eating falafel!
    Also, I never, ever suggested I am an expert at no nuffin’. But a cat may look at a king. Especially if the thing walks around stark naked…

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