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An English friend recently learned about the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to either kidnap or kill journalist Julian Assange and quipped “I’ll bet he’s happy to be safe and sound in Belmarsh Prison if he has a chance to read about that!” I replied that his time in Belmarsh has been made as demeaning as possible by an English judge and the British are just as capable of executing a Jeffrey Epstein suicide or “accident” if called upon to do so by their American “cousins.” He agreed, reluctantly. Indeed, the roles of American allies Britain and Australia in what is turning out to be one of the world’s longest-playing judicial dramas has been reprehensible.

For those readers who have missed some of the fun of the Assange saga, a recap is in order. Julian Assange, an Australian citizen who was living in London, was the Editor in Chief and driving force behind Wikileaks, which debuted in 2006 and was one of the alternative news sites that have sprung up over the past twenty years. WikiLeaks was somewhat unique in that it often did not write up its own stories but rather was passed documentary material by sources in government and elsewhere that it then reprinted without any editing.

Assange attracted the ire of the ruling class when he obtained in 2010 a classified video from an unidentified source that showed an unprovoked 2007 shooting incident involving U.S. Army helicopters in Baghdad in which a dozen completely innocent people were killed. The government’s anger at WikiLeaks intensified when, in 2013, Edward Snowden, a National Security Agency contractor, fled to Hong Kong with classified material that demonstrated that the U.S. government was illegally spying on Americans. WikiLeaks also reportedly helped to arrange Snowden’s subsequent escape to Russia from Hong Kong.

The bipartisan animus directed against WikiLeaks intensified still further in the summer of 2016 when the group’s website began to release emails from the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton’s campaign. The immediate conclusion propagated by Team Hillary but unsupported by facts was that Russian intelligence had hacked the emails and given them to WikiLeaks.

It was perhaps inevitable that Assange’s reporting, which has never been found to be factually inaccurate, was in some circles claimed to be based on information provided to him by Russian hackers. Even though he repeatedly denied that that was the case and there are technical reasons why that was unlikely or even impossible, this led to a sharp Russophobic response from a number of intelligence and law enforcement services close to the United States. Assange was charged in Britain in November 2010 on an international warrant demanding that he be extradited to Sweden over claims that he had committed rape in that country, an accusation which later turned out to be false. He posted bail but lost a legal battle to annul the warrant and then skipped a preliminary hearing in London in June 2012 to accept asylum in the Ecuadorean Embassy, which has diplomatic immunity. He stayed in the Embassy for eighty-two months, at which point a new government in Quito made clear that his asylum would be revoked and he would be expelled from the building. He was preparing to leave voluntarily in April 2019 when police arrived and he was arrested on a charge of his failure to appear in court seven years before which was regarded as “bail jumping.” He was sent immediately to Belmarsh high security prison, where Britain’s terrorist prisoners are confined.

After his arrest, Assange continued to be incarcerated due to a U.S. Justice Department extradition request based on the Espionage Act of 1918, apparently derived from possible interaction with the Chelsea Manning whistleblower case. Assange has now been in Belmarsh for 29 months in spite of increasing international pressure asserting that he is a journalist and should be released. The British have hesitated to extradite him on the basis of the evidence produced by the U.S. government, which included the claim that Assange aided the former U.S. Army analyst Manning break into a classified computer network in order to obtain and eventually publish classified material, but they have likewise failed to release him. The British judge denied extradition in January, suggesting that if he were to be returned forcibly to the U.S. he would likely commit suicide, but she also denied Assange bail as he was considered to be a flight risk. The U.S. appealed that verdict and the next hearing is scheduled for the end of October. It should be noted that no evidence produced by the Justice Department has plausibly linked Assange to the Russian intelligence services.

Which brings us to the Yahoo news revelation regarding the CIA plot to shoot, poison or kidnap Assange while he was sheltering in the Ecuadorian Embassy. It goes something like this: in 2017, Assange’s fifth year in the Embassy, the CIA debated going after him to end the alleged threat posed to government secrets by him and his organization, which was still operating and presumed to be in contact with him. WikiLeaks had at that time been publishing extremely sensitive CIA hacking tools, referred to as “Vault 7,” which constituted “the largest data loss in CIA history.”

In an April 2017 speech, Donald Trump’s new CIA Director Mike Pompeo said “WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service and has encouraged its followers to find jobs at the CIA in order to obtain intelligence. It’s time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is: a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia.” It was a declaration of war. The label “non-state hostile intelligence service” is a legal designation which more-or-less opened the door to non-conventional responses to eliminate the threat. CIA Stations where WikiLeaks associates were known to be present were directed to increase surveillance on them and also attempt to interdict any communications they might seek to have with Assange himself in the embassy. A staff of analysts referred to as the “WikiLeaks Team” worked full time to target the organization and its leaders.

At the top level of the Agency debate over more extreme options prevailed, though there were legitimate concerns about the legality of what was being contemplated. In late 2017, in the midst of the debate over possible kidnapping and/or assassination, the Agency picked up alarming though unsubstantiated reports that Russian intelligence operatives were preparing plans to help Assange escape from the United Kingdom and fly him to Moscow.

CIA responded by preparing to foil Assange’s possible Russian-assisted departure to include potential gun battles with Moscow’s spies on the streets of London or crashing a car into any Russian diplomatic vehicle transporting Assange to seize him. One scenario even included either blocking the runway or shooting out the tires of any Russian plane believed to be carrying Assange before it could take off for Moscow. Pompeo himself reportedly favored what is referred to as a “rendition,” which would consist of breaking into the Ecuadorian Embassy, kidnapping Assange, and flying him clandestinely to the U.S. for trial. Others in the national security team favored killing Assange rather than going through the complexity of kidnapping and removing him. Fortunately, saner views prevailed, particularly when the British refused to cooperate in any way with activity they regarded as clearly illegal.

So Assange is still in prison and what does it all mean? The only possible charge that would convincingly demonstrate that Assange was spy paid by Russia would be related to his possibly helping Chelsea Manning to circumvent security to steal classified material, but there is no real evidence that Assange actually did that or that he is under Russian control. So that makes him a journalist. That he has embarrassed the United States, most often when it misbehaves, is what good journalists do. But beyond that the disgraceful CIA plans to kill or abduct Assange as an option to get rid of him reveal yet again the dark side of what the United States of America has become since 9/11.

More to the point, getting rid of Assange will accomplish nothing. He worked with a number of like-minded colleagues who have been more than able to pick up where he left off. He has been largely incommunicado since he has been languishing in Belmarsh Prison and it is his associates who have continued to solicit information and publish it on their site. Mike Pompeo’s unapologetic response to this assassination or kidnapping story was “They were engaged in active efforts to steal secrets themselves, and pay others to do the same …” Of course, if all that were true Mike and the government lawyers have had an opportunity to demonstrate just that in a British court. They couldn’t do so and instead promoted the easier option of just killing someone for publishing something true. And assassination is a blunt instrument that rarely accomplishes anything. One recalls that in January 2020 Pompeo certainly participated in the assassination of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani and Iraqi Militia Leader Muhandis in Baghdad. What did that accomplish apart from turning a nominally friendly Iraq hostile to the U.S. presence?

Or, as Assange’s lawyer put it more to the point, “As an American citizen, I find it absolutely outrageous that our government would be contemplating kidnapping or assassinating somebody without any judicial process simply because he had published truthful information.” Unfortunately, that is not all that the Assange case is about. It is not just a question of truth or fiction and journalistic ethics, but rather an issue of the abuses enabled by powerful men who believe that their power is unlimited. That is the real abyss that the United States has fallen into and the only way out is to finally hold such people, starting with Pompeo, accountable for what they have done.

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D. is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: CIA, Julian Assange, Wikileaks 
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  1. Notsofast says:

    assange is a strange case and i’ve heard many versions of him depicted as a hero, others as a stooge of israel and mole giving up his sources that end up dead or in prison. his lack of support for 9/11 truth makes me wonder but i really don’t know what to think in this new age of manufactured reality.

  2. Just a clarification — Assange didn’t flee TO Russia but was stopped in Russia en route. A minor distinction, but one that further weakens the narrative of Russian involvement.

  3. oak says:

    “… the only way out is to finally hold such people … accountable for what they have done”.
    Yes, any Constitution that allows accountability to be disabled is worthless to its people.

    • Agree: mocissepvis
  4. SafeNow says:

    Another “not needing to have a trial” situation exists because the cost of a legal defense is itself the punishment and the deterrent. The charges are baseless, and the case will eventually be dismissed. But meanwhile, your attorney has gobbled-up your assets. Make no mistake, parents considering protesting at school-board meetings: Your future attorney’s paradigm for case-management is: complex, expensive, drawn-out, and hostile. Some conservatives are saying, uh oh, you could face “a knock on the door from the FBI.” Garland does not have in mind a knock on the door followed by a stern reprimand.

    • Agree: Pop Warner
    • Replies: @mocissepvis
  5. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course, why bother? Why bother with an election when you can just kill him?

    CIA does not permit journalists who aren’t puppets, just like they do not permit presidents who aren’t puppets. If Biden doesn’t let CIA cover up its apical coup of ’63 on 10/26, they’re gonna kill Biden too.

    That’s why CIA is your government, and all this bullshit about branches and elections is a distraction for morons. The CIA criminal enterprise is going to kill you whenever they want, until the world kills them. CIA SIS are hostis humani generis, and they will pay when Americans are freed.

    • Agree: mocissepvis
    • Replies: @Franz
    , @geokat62
    , @Justrambling
  6. Weaver says:

    You’re the first to accuse him of being a stooge of Israel. He’s a journalist. I wish he were free to report on Covid. Visit his website, Wikileaks.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Athena
    , @BorisMay
  7. Notsofast says:

    i’m not accusing him of anything, i said there have been accusations. i am most troubled by his lack of support for 9/11 truth and refusing to acknowledge seth rich as the source of the dnc email leak. before you go off on protecting his sources i’ll remind you seth rich is dead, seems to me if he really wanted to protect his sources he would reveal this fact.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  8. Weaver says:

    I get the impression he’s still in prison. I don’t know his mental state now, given his apparent high stress situation. That can break a person, perhaps lead to cognitive or memory problems. I find it absurd that he has ever aided Israel, however.

    9/11 truth might require expertise which Assange lacks. The link I included is the sort of thing Assange is good at.

    Seth Rich was likely his source. Maybe he’ll reveal that before the US kills Assange. I doubt he has given up sources, but Assange seems at times naive. Maybe he has made a mistake. You should hold the position you believe true; you’re just the first I’ve seen to criticise Assange in the way that you are.

    I’m not sure reality has ever been anything but manufactured. The Internet seems more honest than the tv and radio at least.

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  9. Franz says:

    CIA does not permit journalists who aren’t puppets, just like they do not permit presidents who aren’t puppets. If Biden doesn’t let CIA cover up its apical coup of ’63 on 10/26, they’re gonna kill Biden too.

    Excellent summation. Keep in mind the CIA is stateless; it owes no allegiance to any flag except its own and it’s genesis is not even American. The Five Eyes started with British fleet intelligence and never really strayed very far.

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Replies: @AnoNymous
  10. Athena says:

    ” … some of the Wikileaks revelations that make the people of the world wiser:”

    ”– Pfizer, the world’s largest pharmaceutical company, hired investigators to unearth evidence of corruption against the Nigerian attorney general in order to persuade him to drop legal action over a controversial 1996 drug trial involving children with meningitis.

    ”The United States used threats, spying, and more to try to get its way at the crucial 2009 climate conference in Copenhagen.”

    ”The Vatican told the United States it wanted to undermine the influence of Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez in Latin America because of concerns about the deterioration of Catholic power there. It feared that Chávez was seriously damaging relations between the Catholic church and the state by identifying the church hierarchy in Venezuela as part of the privileged class…”

    ”The British government trained a Bangladeshi paramilitary force condemned by human rights organisations as a “government death squad”.

    ”The Saudis wanted a “weak and fractured” Iraq, and were even “fomenting terrorism that would destabilize the government”. The Saudi King, moreover, wanted a US military strike on Iran.”

    ”US officials collaborated with Lebanon’s defense minister to spy on, and allow Israel to potentially attack, Hezbollah in the weeks that preceded a violent May 2008 military confrontation in Beirut.”

    A US military order directed American forces not to investigate cases of torture of detainees by Iraqis.”

    ”Most of the men sent to Guantánamo prison were innocent people or low-level operatives; many of the innocent individuals were sold to the US for bounty.”

    ”DynCorp, a powerful American defense contracting firm that claims almost \$2 billion per year in revenue from US tax dollars, threw a “boy-play” party for Afghan police recruits. (Yes, it’s what you think.)”

    ”President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy told US embassy officials in Brussels in January 2010 that no one in Europe believed in Afghanistan anymore. He said Europe was going along in deference to the United States and that there must be results in 2010, or “Afghanistan is over for Europe.”

    Excerpts from: “If Manning had committed war crimes in Iraq instead of exposing them, he would be a free man today”

    See Sibel Edmonds’ News Bud:

    • Thanks: Weaver, CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @sally
  11. Trinity says:

    Agreed. Has the guy even uttered the J-word? With people like Pam Anderson backing him, he must be a politically correct political prisoner. LMAO. Speaking of Js and prison, what the hell happened with the Ghislane Maxwell story?

    We live in a nation consumed by a (((scamdemic or is it a spamdemic))) and some dude that allegedly killed his girlfriend and is being chased by Dog The Bounty Hunter in the Everglades or some swamp in Florida or is it the Appalachian Trails?

    We live in a nation of Trumptards going to see some orange guy spew the same bullshit that he has been spewing since 2015. Every damn rally is an exact copy of all the others, the script hasn’t changed in 5 years and yet tens of thousands go out and stand in line to see this clown. The name Trump and “winning” should never be uttered in the same sentence. The Blacks For Trump Black dude with a beard, who incredibly always winds up directly behind Trump at every single rally has to being pulling in major cash to show up at all these rallies. And Diamond & Silk are living large, yo. Trump and The Pillow Dude are raking in the cashola. Maga-Maga-Maga or is it Money-Money-Money. P.T. Barnum said it best.

    Cue: The Show Must Go On by Three Dog Night

    • Agree: Rev. Spooner
    • Thanks: Etruscan Film Star
  12. If Julian Assange had a voice, he would agree that January 6th 2021 was a wake up call to anti-white GlobalHomo/ZIOBIGs. They witnessed a million plus white patriots standing up to the greatest coup ever perpetrated on the American people.
    It wasn’t even 24 hours that they declared Trump supporters white Supremacists and domestic terrorists. The same tactics used whenever and wherever they push for a regime change narrative in their favor.
    They know that those one million January 6th insurrectionists represent just a small percentage waiting in the shadows to hear a call to arms.
    They know that time is of the essence, and that they must act immediately to subvert a real insurrection heading their way, by using threats of shame, job losses, censorship and banning of anyone supporting anti-CRT or objecting to policy’s the illegitimate Biden Regime and their GlobalHomo/ZIOBIGs masters push on us.
    As they rush to destroy white America with every means possible, including but not limited to forced Frankenshots, lockdowns, Burn Loot Murder Rape in every city, Gun confiscation laws, and if that doesn’t work, by force using CRT indoctrinated armed feds and military now in finale training stages.
    Does anyone really believe another 2-5-10 trillion dollar government bailout is about infrastructure?
    Julian Assange’s Wikileaks exposed more deep state coverups than any news organization on the planet.
    And this is probably a small sample yet to come should they kill him.

    Index of /file/

  13. @Trinity

    Your Fourth Stage TDS is starting to take a toll on your logic and reason. Seek help.

    • Replies: @Bro43rd
  14. @Sollipsist

    You’re talking about Snowden, not Assange, presumably.

    • LOL: chris
  15. Baz says:

    You mean Edward Snowden?

  16. Why call them the CIA just because they leave their black shirts at home? They’re still the same old S.S. Blackshirts aren’t they? Is there a difference? Have they ever behaved differently?

  17. @Sollipsist

    Assange didn’t flee TO Russia but was stopped in Russia en route.

    Do you mean Snowden?

  18. More to the point, getting rid of Assange will accomplish nothing.


  19. Derer says:

    The London morons are dancing to Washington tune…is the main problem for Assange. Originally, he was not detained in England for “spying” but for concocted Swedish prostitute charge. He was cleared of that charge but sinister London players succumbed to Washington pressure and keep him in custody for entirely different reason.

  20. sally says:

    The more I think about the anti Assange propaganda, the more I think its origin and continued maintenance comes not from state concern over a private actor violating a law by exposing the corruptions of some state Actors; the more I come to believe Assange exposed private actors doing business as states or secretly doing business with states, in ways which, were were corrupt or in ways that pointed to the use of government to accomplish non government objectives?

    Exposing privately owned actors and their private influence (lobbyist and government contracts) with governments and exposing the ways in which these various corruptions were being conducted, as a theme, better fits the Dreyfus like treatment Assange has experienced by the influence controlled nation state than anything else I can think of.

    Imprisoned without charges. even after sentence served, and even prosecution without charges, is not a normal. Even letting Assange rot in prison is not normal. The Asaange Affair is not normal. It suggest the powers keeping Assange in prison until he dies is not the nation state per see, but instead represents influence on the state by actors(corporations and private individuals) close to the state.

    Persons with strong private lobby and contractor influence with the governments involved might be responsible for keeping Assange in prison until he dies. Assange whereabouts is not a secret. Governments are free to convict him, but none have really come forth. Maybe the Assange Affair it is all about something non criminal, Assange offended some private actor in a strongly offensive and pernicious way, and the private actors want Assange blood in revenge ?

    So i am suggesting a new theory might better describe the awkward handling of the Assange Affair (as in the ..

    Seems to me Assange exposed the activities of private for profit entities and the interactions of those private entities with persons located within certain departments of governments. His expositions did not expose the governments themselves, as far as I can remember, but instead, Assange exposed corrupt activities that involved private use of the nation state, or corrupt actors within the state use of private parties, to accomplish non state objectives.

    In other words, Assange’s exposure journalism, cost a lot of people, a lot of would-be-profit and cost those people a lot of cover up money. The exposures Assange threatened the deep state, the hidden government. the dark political secrets of private parties doing business with the secret government, the corrupt business of government contracting, etc..

    • Replies: @michael888
  21. @Sollipsist

    The article doesn’t mention anything about Assange fleeing to Russia. If my memory serves correctly, it was Snowden who was helped to get to Russia and after a short stop was accepted into the country.

  22. meamjojo says:

    Exactly. So WHY is Assange still alive? Because the CIA is too lame to carry off a successful assignation? They should contract with the Russians.

  23. @Sollipsist

    One of the figments of your mind would like to remind you that you mean Snowden.

  24. @Weaver

    I don’t know why anyone would assume Seth Rich was a good guy. What is actually known about him, is that he was a Jew involved in Democrat politics, so a member of the worst sub-group of the worst group in the country. If he was offed on the orders of Democrat higher-ups, it’s a lot more likely that it was because he was blackmailing them in a bid for more money and power than because he was secretly fighting for good.

  25. @Sollipsist

    You mean Edward Snowden. He cut his journey short in Russia, and remains there.

  26. dimples says:

    This is a silly article, so I assume Mr Giraldi is asking the question on behalf of his CIA masters in order to test public opinion (the CIA not having any brains left itself). Assange is too well known to bump off and there no convenient dark alleys about in which to do it. If some obvious sort of hit occurred to him even the brain-dead leftard journalists would be all over it. Additionally the suffering would finally be over for the dead Assange, and nobody in the USMIC/Deep State would prefer that. Even the Romans knew that you don’t want your crucifixion victim to die quickly. The punishment for insurrection must be slow, long-drawn out, public and painful. So at the moment I’d say it’s working out well for them. The optimum time to do him, if any, would be the day before he is released.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  27. Contraviews says: • Website

    If hopefully Assange was to regain his freedom, then one may wonder where he can go to. He would be in great danger. They could assassinate him anywhere. Ironically Russia or may be even China would be the safest places for him.

  28. niceland says:

    You can read about Siggi (the hacker) FBI’s key witness in the Assange case here.

    This creature is among other things; convicted for molesting and raping several boys, endless frauds and thefts. And by all accounts, pathological liar.

  29. Sigurdur “Siggi” Thordarson perjured himself in a deal with the FBI/CIA (before Iceland threw them out) to bring the case against Assange, parroting whatever they told him to say. In return he received immunity from his many pedophile crimes. In June, 2021 Siggi recanted his testimony.

    Given an opportunity to dismiss charges what did Biden and the UK do? Absolutely nothing. The Soviets were good at such Show Trials, but the US is much better! 95% of those charged with felonies take plea bargained Guilty verdicts because they know the judicial system is fixed, and unless you are Rich or extremely well connected (like Epstein is his first Florida trial, and every high US Government official), you may spend your life in jail, standing on principle, or take the 2 to 10 years. Read about ANY of the trials of whistleblowers prosecuted by Obama;, John Kiriakou is a good example as he wrote about his trial, or Steven Donziger more recently. These are AMERICAN political prisoners just like Assange.

    While much has been made of financial/economic inequality, fundamentally more important is Equality Before the Law. We have a two tiered justice system where dissent from “our bettors” and empty threats from ignorance or frustration can get you more jail time than burning down a small business or beating some Asian half to death for walking on the street.

    As Hillary said “Why can’t we just drone him?” When her remark was published she said “C’mon, it was just a joke!” Later, finding no one had recorded her, “I never said that.” Many Americans admire, even genuflect to psychopaths.

  30. Bro43rd says:

    If there’s any question about DJTs loyalties one needs only to look at his list of pardons. It (his loyalty) surely isn’t with your average red-blooded Americans that his MAGA rants often tout. Just another globohomo zionist stooge. I’m ashamed I was fooled by him in 2015s potus campaign. Dumbfounded at his continued popularity.

    • Agree: mocissepvis
    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @Trinity
  31. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    What an absurd inverted world we live in where the most courageous and dangerous action anyone can take is simply telling the truth.

    Hats off to Giraldi for lifting the rocks and shining a flashlight underneath.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
  32. onebornfree says: • Website

    First if all, if Assange did not understand the danger he exposed himself to by first publishing what he published, then either he was extremely naive, and gullible, or he believed he was somehow magically protected.

    I predicted( to myself only), back when the footage from the US helicopter first emerged, that he was now a target of the Pentagon and all the rest, and that he would probably be assassinated or imprisoned within a few years.

    For me, nothing that Wikileaks ever published was a surprise , it was all just “par for the course” info, nothing more.

    That’s because I, unlike Assange, Wikileaks ( and Giraldi, apparently), already understood the true nature of all governments.

    To whit:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    This article amounts to nothing more than another horror story for the masses about the US government.

    Political Writers/commentators like Giraldi, no different from political writers/ commentators elsewhere, all depend on these types of horror stories about their governments in order to get published and paid.

    Never do they suggest any “solution” to the problem of government terrorism other than “we need to reform the CIA ( or whatever)”.

    Never (or rarely), do we get to hear/read of a proposal by them to abolish the CIA ( or the 10s of 1000’s of other, entirely unconstitutional US government depts, and to shrink the US government back down to its original, clearly stated, extremely limited, functions.

    No, not a peep about any of that.😆

    As always, just feed the slave masses what they all crave: yet another horror story about the latest criminal activities of their criminal overlords. They love it.

    It’s called “Stockholm Syndrome”, by the way.

    “Regards”, onebornfree

    • Replies: @mocissepvis
  33. @CelestiaQuesta

    The measure of men, “moral” is slightly above anything other then the likes of Assange, such minded are the risk takers, to be taken out at any cost, are the outliers that are cost prohibitive, can cause landslides, and Got forbade, even cause elite insider strive. Thanks to these, the cost of needed utilities, appliances as is the middle classes can become cost prohibitive. It even confuses the confusers, it becomes harder to bet on who to shill(chill?) for.

    Does it matter as much? Not really, building a sterile environment, including here at unz, takes away the tools, the resources, the survival of the fittest.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  34. “… by an English judge …”

    Really? Are you sure she not an Israeli judge?

  35. “Pompeo himself reportedly favored what is referred to as a “rendition,” which would consist of breaking into the Ecuadorian Embassy, kidnapping Assange, and flying him clandestinely to the U.S. for trial.”

    Perhaps it’s how pompous Pompeo should end his days for crimes that he may have actually committed.

  36. AnoNymous[229] • Disclaimer says:

    Keep in mind the CIA is stateless; it owes no allegiance to any flag except its own…….and to israel.
    Do not forget this.

    • Thanks: Franz
  37. Tom Welsh says:

    Perhaps the obvious parallel between Julian Assange and Nelson Mandela needs to be given a higher profile.

    Both prisoners of conscience for speaking out against appalling official acts. Yet Mandela has been raised to the status of a secular saint by left-wingers, who somehow manage to forget all about Assange.

    • Replies: @Crass
  38. Julian Assange and Edward Snowden should have won the Nobel Peace Prize. Nobel Prize committee also infiltrated.

    • Agree: RichardDuck
  39. Crass says:

    Julian Assange must have some seriously damaging evidence on the criminals running The Western Empire, which would turn out to be catastrophic for those who have (or had), their fingers on the levers of power, if the information is ever released to the public.

    The vindictive treatment and gratuitous torture that Julian Assange has been subjected to (is only explained to me at least), that they are looking to destroy his mind, if he continues to refuse to hand over the information he has, that is keeping him alive.

    I reckon he may have came into possession of Jeffrey Epstein-Esque blackmail material, that would bring down much of the establishment, if the horrid tales of Pedophilia ever makes it way into the public domain.

    Julian Assange obviously has a life insurance policy, and hopefully we will find out in what form, in the near future.

    • Replies: @mocissepvis
  40. chris says:

    As mentioned in a previous post, for me, this revelation that the poisoning of Assange was being considered by the US government, casts a very different light on the Skripal poisoning.

    In the event that they were going to go through with the plan, US was undoubtedly going to place blame for the poisoning on Russia. The light poisonings of the Skripals was used to create a precedent with the Russians as antagonists, after which they would have poisoned Assange and repeated the frame-up.

    The Russians’ motive would have been that they were trying to erase the tracks which connected them to Assange.

    But then, I think something didn’t come off as expected with the Skripals, the narrative wasn’t very clean, and they killed that innocent woman, or maybe they had other reasons not to go through with it.

    Even from the timeline, this scenario is consistent. 2017 they were discussing the possibility of poisoning Assange, and then in early 2018 the Skripals were poisoned. Otherwise you’d have to believe that in 2017 they were making plans to poison Assange in England, and soon thereafter, by complete coincidence, the Russians poison someone in England. Right.

    • Agree: michael888
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  41. Crass says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Nelson Mandela was not a ‘prisoners of conscience’. He was a stone cold Communist Terrorist, and his orders led the murder of many innocent Men, Women and Children, while he was in command of the ‘uMkhonto we Sizwe’, which was the armed wing of the African National Congress, which was co-founded by Nelson Mandela. His wife, Winnie Mandela, is infamous for her Winnie Necklacing, Death By Tire Fire.

    You have an awful lot of unlearning to do!

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @AnoNymous
  42. geokat62 says:

    … apical coup of ’63 on 10/26

    I thought the coup occurred ‘63 on 11/22?

  43. @sally

    Interesting idea, possibly correct, but only speculation until you have candidates for the offended parties.

    Most powerful Americans are intertwined with the Government anyway, so they generally have the same interests at heart.

    Would you consider the Clintons private actors nowadays?

    Hopefully Assange has left a scattering of truly offensive material, possibly not vetted as usual by wikileaks, to be released on his death. He needs insurance of some sort (Epstein didn’t do that well).

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Replies: @HbutnotG
    , @sally
  44. @Anonymous

    … they will pay when Americans are freed.

    A tad optimistic I would say. The Zionist stranglehold on our country up to now seems irreversible. Without real resistance to rid our country of Zionist occupation and rule, your sentiments are no more than fantasy.

  45. Phibbs says:

    In Mike Pompeo’s defense, he is a Born-Again Christian. I have yet to meet — or even hear of — a Born-Again Christian who has any basic morality. Add to that Born-Again Christians worship of the rogue, aparheid, terrorist , enemy state of Israel, and the kindest thing one can say about evangelicals is that they are heretics. The real truth, however, is that Born-Again Christians are traitors, terrorists and murderers. Pompeo is Exhibit A for that argument.

    • Agree: Jim H
    • Replies: @HbutnotG
  46. Trinity says:

    Look up CONTROLLED OPPOSITION in the dictionary and you will see a picture of Trump. We lost more under Trump than any other zionist controlled stooge in the past. I was fooled by the guy the first time and had no choice the second time given the alternative. I should have known better. The guy is SURROUNDED by Jews, hell, his daughter married Super Jew. He sat on his hands as (((Soros/Antifa/BLM))) took over major cities claiming he needed the gubner to give him the green light. Funny, the Prez didn’t need the green light when it came to sending federal troops down to Arkansas and Alabama back in the day to integrate schools. Seems we make up rules as we go along here. Either that are we have different sets of rules when it comes to the rights of Whites, the Whites who actually built America.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Derer
  47. Exile says:

    The Deep State is a problem not merely because it abuses its power. That’s true but this isn’t just a civil liberties issue and the opposition to the Deep State shouldn’t be limited to basically libertarian/liberal grounds like this.

    The bigger problem is that it abuses its power to advance the interests of Zionists and globohomo one-percenter neoliberals against the interests and values of the actual citizens. We’re effectively under occupation and the Deep State is the boot on our necks.

  48. anon[328] • Disclaimer says:

    Can you believe jigaboos think they “built” this country? Thats the basis for muh reparations demands and continued submissive towards their bad behaviors. Playing a saxophone, picking cotton, and playing basketball. And we’re supposed to believe these subhumans built pyramids and had “spiritual” civilizations before big had whitey came along lmao!

    • Replies: @Trinity
  49. It appears that Phil Giraldi’s article was written before the arrest of the convicted Icelandic pedophile, an FBI informant, by the Icelandic police ( 10-8-21). That informant, “Siggi” Thordarson, was arrested in Reykjavik on 9-24, and is now in Iceland’s highest security prison. The article, written by Joe Lauria, explains that this pedophile was granted immunity by the FBI in exchange for (false) testimony against Assange.

    What effect, if any, will that have on the US case against Assange? Or on the UK illegally holding him in prison? I hope that Mr. Giraldi will address this new development shortly.

  50. @Trinity

    Assange was the darling of the left until he wasn’t. He also was used to expose a state for a state. That is not to say Assange was dirty, just useful. The whole Manning affair wasn’t as big as the deal as it seems on the surface. In the end all it amounted to was the US paying for Manning’s gonads to be removed.

    For those on the right Assange and Wikileaks was a big who and what. We are told by Assange supporters that it is because of the damning release of Democrat and Podesta emails prior to the 2016 election that Trump won. How quaint.

    What we have learned since elections are a sham, even increasingly on the local level. We also should have learned by now Podesta’s weird pizza toppings was a setup for pizza gate and q anon. Assange in an email made it happened by giving us the FBI key to the Podesta emails. The FBI lies, and the “I” in FBI really stands for instigation. Well that is my theory and I am sticking with it.

    Finally the DC rulers hope Assange commits suicide before they have to do it. Its called taking care of loose ends.

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @HbutnotG
  51. Trinity says:

    What little Blacks have contributed to building this nation is easily negated by the destruction they wreaked on it. Blacks OWE Whites reparations for the destruction of our major cities, cities that helped put America on the map like Baltimore, Chicago, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C. and Detroit. Blacks OWE Whites reparations for hundreds of thousands of victims of Black on White violence over the past several decades. YES, I did say hundreds of thousands, there are roughly 20-25 thousand Black on White rapes and/or sexual assaults alone every single year in America. So do that times 60 years. Then add in murders like the Wichita Massacre, The Christian-Newsom aka Knoxville Horror, the 5 year old White child being thrown off a balcony in a St. George, Minnesota, formerly Minneapolis/ St. Paul now known as St. George/St. Paul, Minnesota. And then we have/had the victims of crimes like “Polar Bear Hunting,” etc. Yep, we are talking HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

    And then we have all the back rent for free housing or low income housing and free medical and riding the gubmint dole for generations on the backs of working class Whites. Yep, I am for Blacks paying WORKING CLASS WHITES reparations. The “elite” Whites have been sucking off the WORKING CLASS WHITE teat for generations just like the Blacks, so f*ck them.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Replies: @Maddaugh
  52. @Sollipsist

    You’re all correct of course. My fault for not waiting until the coffee kicks in.

  53. Maddaugh says:

    The truth and righteousness are irrelevant and has always been so. Assange’s crime is that he embarrassed the bureaucrats. However why they should be embarrassed about the slaughter of innocents is a mystery to me. Is that not what bureaucrats do, what the US is famous for and what everyone already knows they do ?

    Where Assange is concerned I think one of the techniques of combat apply. A dead man is buried and forgotten, six feet of earth tends to bring on amnesia in the heads of the living. A wounded man however remains there, all chewed up, for all to see.

    When we look at someone physically or mentally mangled we are glad HE got it but still, lurking in the dark recesses of our mind we imagine ourselves in his condition, and we shudder.

    Hence it seems to me doing away with this fellow would be counter productive for the denizens of the Beltway. They want to make a statement for one and all to see, remember and contemplate ie fuck with us and no matter who or where you are we will get you and make your life a living hell.

    Assange dead may be, notice I said may be a martyr or some sort of hero. Assange alive and persecuted is a warning to see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil else its your Ass Ange !

  54. @Notsofast

    Despite the disgraceful divulging by Gu. ardian journalistof Wikileaks encryption key and subsequent publication beyond Assaing’s preferences no harm to sources has been proven. His attitude to 9/11 has been the proper one of not supporting conspiracy theories of which he has no or inadequate evidence.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
    , @Notsofast
  55. @chris

    Intriguing. I hope it gets followed up in more detail.

    • Agree: chris
  56. Maddaugh says:

    What little Blacks have contributed to building this nation is easily negated by the destruction they wreaked on it

    Troof will disagree with you LOL. Blacks having to repay Whitey’s loans means no more freebies and that is unacceptable. Your position would be considered racist. Asking blacks to stop hanging at the street corner and do an honest days work is akin to poking a wasp;s nest with your willie. We would also miss Troof’s idiotic one liners as the poor fellow would have to work. Who would wish such a fate on any Nigger ?

    Besides Trinity, if black crime and destruction were eliminated many of the Brothers in law enforcement and corrections would be unemployed. We might even have a budget surplus and that is unacceptable.

    The sad part is that we cannot even reinstitute slavery in the hope of being repaid. The blacks of today are completely useless. A slave on the plantation could plant, harvest, fix equipment, build a house, look after livestock etc. The Jigga Boo in the hood these days cant even tie their shoe laces or tighten their belts.

    That race is hopeless. To me deportation would be best. Lots of space in Africa and they can rock with their own. Oh I forgot, Africa does not want them and Africans are headed THIS WAY. Well now, we could implement the Jew model. Dump the lot in Louisiana, the whole lot, there is a lot of space (and gators) in dem daar swamps, triple walls strung with electrified fences and barbed wire and watch towers at appropriate intervals.

    This way they can slaughter each other as desired and live in filth as they love to do.

    • Agree: Trinity, HbutnotG
  57. @dimples

    Your opening sally is misguided. There is no reason to suppose that the CIA, including Pompeo, didn’t consider the evil courses of killing or kidnapping and Giraldi rightly labels that as wrong even if it was dropped because unwise or counter-productive.

  58. Agent76 says:

    Jun 27, 2021 Julian Assange Case: Key witness admits to lying in testimony to help FBI | WikiLeaks | English News

    A key witness whose testimony was used in the indictment of Julian Assange has admitted to lying. Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson was recruited by US authorities to build a case against Assange after misleading them to believe he was previously a close associate of his.

  59. DanFromCT says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    9/11 conspiracy theories? The official fairytale of nineteen magical Arabs who one day couldn’t taxi a Cessna 150 trainer at Huffman Aviation in Venice, Florida without a flight instructor sitting next to them who supposedly the next day were flying complex Boeing jetliners into impossibly difficult targets is the obvious winner in that category.

    Furthermore, there is overwhelmingly persuasive circumstantial evidence of Israel and its fifth column’s guilt for executing 9/11, not to mention that the elaborate, coordinated efforts at concealment by the Jewish controlled MSM and social media to conceal the truth about 9/11 provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt of their collective guilt for capital treason as well. The more you Jews remonstrate about 9/11, the more people will come to doubt you, so please keep it up.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  60. …the dark side of what the United States of America has become since 9/11.

    The United States government has always been “dark,” at least in the modern era. The false flag operation that was 9/11 simply gave it a long-awaited pretext to bring this darkness out of hiding and into the open.

    • Agree: Agent76, Jim H
  61. HbutnotG says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Exactly what they did with Jeffery Epstein. And Assange is next to “disappear.”

    A clever Jew learned to make megabucks by getting juicy stuff on the rich & famous by luring them to a “hot” resort. It was workable in its day. But fuck the wrong person one day, and you’re otta work, … and dead!

    I give that clever Jew credit. He must’ve read his mom’s National Enquirer as a kid. And figured since he wasn’t going to get into med school….

    Oh well. It was a new “industry.” He shoulda set himself some guidelines, though. Guideline #1 in the framing biz – distance yourself. But too late now.

    Times changed during the course of his adulthood. That timing is particularly interesting.

    Rule #1 about liberals: They ALL (100%) have skeletons in the closet. ALL of them. That’s what makes them liberals. It isn’t their money or their upbringing per se. It’s their skeletons in their closet, which for some people can be something not even what you’d consider newsworthy. Interestingly, Jews have a tightly wound culture and they blab a lot. That combination tells you why there is an inordinately large Jew proportion among liberals.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  62. @SafeNow

    The utter and irremediable corruption of the American legal system is the reason why the day is soon at hand when no one will trust it or appeal to it. Cannons will replace courtrooms as the mechanism for justice and dispute resolution.

  63. It is not just a question of truth or fiction and journalistic ethics, but rather an issue of the abuses enabled by powerful men who believe that their power is unlimited. That is the real abyss that the United States has fallen into
    America too is now a Banana Republic. The sooner the Americans learn to sallow this hard banana, the better it will for them. From here on, they are on a slippery slope, and it will be an easy slide from riches to rags.
    Even if they fight and win against their internal enemies, they have pissed off too many countries that had done them no harm.
    It is inevitable, it’s written in the stars.

  64. HbutnotG says:

    I’ll make it simpler, for ya: Low IQ, and inbreeding = “born Again Christian.”

    Years ago, the TV and door to door Jehovah Witnesses pretty much drove that point home.

  65. HbutnotG says:

    Assange and Jeffery were in a biz far more dangerous than they thought.

    I call them “Wallendas” for lack of a better term.

    One for the money, one for the principle. Same outcome. tsk tsk

  66. Z-man says:

    For all his Deep State talk Trump didn’t have the balls to pardon Assange and Snowden or even fire his enemies Wray and meat head Milley.

    • Agree: Jim H
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  67. sally says:

    Possible private party candidates might appear in the disclosure documents made public in this Assange Affair The names of possible private parties candidates would be helpful.

    tracking those parties back to the places and times where actions adverse to Assange were imposed. and working backward from there.. to the source or origin of that adversity.. might yield significant results.

    Assange himself might know, or be able to accurately speculate to arrive at an answer to that question?

  68. Derer says:

    You are way off. You are a political midget if you do not recognize the well known fact that it is the Democratic party that is fully infested and controlled by the “kibbutz society of America”. They, along with despicable MSM (controlled by the same society), would not let Trump administration to implement his winning agenda from the day one. Trump faced illiterate neocons gang from his own party. Washington is irreparably damaged leading to break up of the country.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  69. @onebornfree

    Never do they suggest any “solution” to the problem of government terrorism other than “we need to reform the CIA ( or whatever)”.

    Never (or rarely), do we get to hear/read of a proposal by them to abolish the CIA ( or the 10s of 1000’s of other, entirely unconstitutional US government depts, and to shrink the US government back down to its original, clearly stated, extremely limited, functions.

    No, not a peep about any of that.😆

    That’s because they all know damned good and well that there’s only ONE WAY to “abolish” this criminal abomination that rules over us, and it ain’t through peaceful, civilized means. No pundit ever wants to be the one to sound the call “aux armes, citoyens!” and be responsible for launching “hot” Civil War II.

  70. geokat62 says:

    If you’re a White man with a daughter(s) and/or granddaughter(s), you need to view this video (to the very end)…

    White Women Under Attack

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  71. @Crass

    I reckon he may have came into possession of Jeffrey Epstein-Esque blackmail material, that would bring down much of the establishment, if the horrid tales of Pedophilia ever makes it way into the public domain.

    It’s difficult to assess how terrified of exposure TPTB actually are. On the one hand, their going all out to silence the likes of Assange suggests that the answer is “very terrified.” On the other hand, they also are sufficiently full of hubris to believe that they’ll never be held accountable, that if they ever were exposed as child-buggering murderers they’d respond by forcing the legalization of pedophilia and mandating its celebration.

    Julian Assange obviously has a life insurance policy, and hopefully we will find out in what form, in the near future.

    Let us hope that he has left instructions to his collaborators that in the event of his death, whether from natural causes or suspected Deep State foul play, to release ALL of Wikipedia’s holdings, whatever they may be, and to post them far, wide, and everywhere.

  72. Turk 152 says:

    Assange is more useful alive because he creates a constant reminder of the perils of becoming a whistleblower. If they killed him, he would be forgotten by the next Covid news cycle. It is better to keep him twisting in the wind of the UK of the judicial system with all the drama and hopelessness it creates. Repression is far more effective through a public spectacle, rather than shooting everyone which would inevitably create a backlash. Assange’s incarceration solves the ease of becoming an internet whistleblower problem far more than never again heard from Reality Winner or bygone Chelsea Manning. I cant say whether he is all theater or merely an extremely fortunate circumstance for our criminal ruling class.

  73. AnoNymous[229] • Disclaimer says:

    You are absolutely correct
    Mandela was a fucken criminal negroid.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  74. Just shows the US Government is just as ruthless and evil as any dictatorship; they could never go after any legitimate American journalist for publishing their dirty little secrets; Assange as well as Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden should all be pardoned and given Freedom awards and one day they will be when we live in a saner era.

  75. It is not just a question of truth or fiction and journalistic ethics, but rather an issue of the abuses enabled by powerful men who believe that their power is unlimited. That is the real abyss that the United States has fallen into and the only way out is to finally hold such people, starting with Pompeo, accountable for what they have done.

    And the abuses to not begin or end with CIA. The evidence that powerful men are presently engaged in world wide genocide, is growing. Want to know what’s in the jab? Here’s a short clip from the Stew Peters show:

    Video LinkAnd there are others, slowly but surely the crime is unraveling. Anthony Fauci, and cronies recorded 2019, are on film discussing how to get around the usual decade of testing vaccines typically have to go through. It’s easy just change the flu label to corona, create the fear and blitz the public airwaves with lies.
    I could go on and on. The truth is: it’s not a vaccine, and we should not call it such.
    The list of professional medical scientists calling foul is growing daily.

  76. @AnoNymous

    Mandela was a fucken criminal negroid.

    Everyone in politics is a killer. One has to be because politics is war by other means. It’s a struggle for power.

    The real question is WHAT FOR? Mandela, criminal or not, did it for his race and people. So, he was nobler than all these white cucks who collaborate with Jewish Power. White cucks care about their own carrots and don’t when Jews beat other whites with big sticks.

    There’s a scene in THE WILD BUNCH. Pike Bishop says, “He gave his word” but Dutch says, “That’s not what counts. It’s who you give it to.”

    A thug-criminal who fights and struggles for his own race is nobler than a gentleman who cucks to the enemy and betrays his own race.

    In THE BATTLE OF ALGIERS, some street punk hoodlum becomes an Independence Fighter for his people. He aint fancy or refined but he fights and dies for his people. He is a hero to his kind.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  77. Trinity says:

    The blatantly (((anti-White demshevik))) and their hapless sparring partners the (((republiCANTS))) might as well break kayfabe. The only “mental midgets” are the people out there that think these two wings of the same (((vulture))) are different.

    Lemme ask you something, when have the republiCANTS ever did anything for their largest constituent aka White working class? At least with the blatantly anti-White demsheviks even the dumbest of the dumb knows their agenda. Of course plenty of suicidal white traitor trash keep voting demshevik so God only knows what their mental capacity and mental health issues are, but are you still clueless even now to keep believing in a sack of PROVEN LOSERS like Trump and the republCANTS? “Come on, man.”

    Have you not seen pictures of your boy, Donny J with Clinton on the golf course? How about Orange Boy with pedophiles Epstein and Maxwell? And really man, anyone involved in casinos is already suspect even without the J ties. Spare me the Mega Maga, Pawn Vanity, and Lush Limbaugh crapola.

  78. Notsofast says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    you appear for all the world to be a five eyed troll, as would anyone posting your last sentence. the more i think about assange the more i see him as one as well. after much contemplation, i now see him as an intellectuals q. bradley manning was given up supposedly by an occupy wall street mole who later conveniently committed suicide, no longer posing a risk of divulging his dark secrets. this is most likely all an elaborate kubuki theater, with a tranny woke hero/heroine standings strong against the murderous war machine and refusing to give up the man she loves but can never have.

  79. R.C. says:

    . In late 2017, in the midst of the debate over possible kidnapping and/or assassination, the Agency picked up alarming though unsubstantiated reports that Russian intelligence operatives were preparing plans to help Assange escape from the United Kingdom and fly him to Moscow.

    1) “Legality” as used by the Deep State/CIA is just a fig leaf, a scam to rationalize their latest attempt to call their latest scheme to murder to be something benevolent ;
    2) Which ‘alarming though unsubtantiated reports’ were almost certainly created by the CIA and their Mockingbird News Flunkies; and,
    3) Pompous is a fat, evil, ass.

  80. Jim H says:

    ‘That is the real abyss that the United States has fallen into and the only way out is to finally hold such people, starting with Pompeo, accountable for what they have done.’ — Philip Giraldi

    Pigman Pompeo probably won’t loom large in our future. I’d like to take him out for dinner, feed him a 6,000 calorie Nacho Mountain meal, then help the EMTs tote his repulsive white-whale lard ass out of the restaurant after his fat-induced heart attack.

    Jesus wept (with laughter)!

    A far more insidious threat in 2024 is the mercenary, shady-lady Israeli agent Nikki Haley, who made herself famous by lovingly licking Netanhayu’s stinky feet, then drying them with her black hair.

    Fifth-column Republicans like Haley are the snakes in the grass who will finally sell us all down the river to exile in Babylon, where she will gaze out on us from her pristine ivory castle balcony and pityingly declare, ‘There, but for the grace of Yahweh, go I!

  81. @geokat62

    The black initiated the encounter, commited two serious crimes, and escalated without provocation repeatedly. One, sexual assault against the White girl. Two, violent assault and battery against her boyfriend. Furthermore, by sexually assaulting the girl in front of her boyfriend, the black was engaging in an egregious provocation. By attacking the boyfriend after commiting such a disgusting crime the black prevented the couple from disengaging and retreating and showed reckless disregard for consequences. Considering all this, a reasonable person would assume the black was escalating to murder. Justifiable homicide and good riddance.

  82. RobinG says:
    @Priss Factor

    Okay, that’s a defensible argument. But then do you have to say the same thing for the Irgun and all the current murdering idf who believe they’re killing for their people?

    (And isn’t that also the line of thinking of these fanboys who love the Nazis?)

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    , @BorisMay
  83. Assange is a controlled opposition agent , in my opinion. Venerating him I see as a mistake.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  84. @RobinG

    Okay, that’s a defensible argument. But then do you have to say the same thing for the Irgun and all the current murdering idf who believe they’re killing for their people?
    (And isn’t that also the line of thinking of these fanboys who love the Nazis?)

    This is how I draw the line. Any amount of violence is justified to gain national independence. But beyond that, violence becomes imperialist.

    So, whatever Hitler did to regain the Rhineland and annex Austria(fellow German folks) and Sudetenland(80% German), I can support. But when he took all of Czech and then invaded half of Poland, he went wrong.

    Same with Soviets. Their defense of motherland against German invaders was heroic, but their gobbling up of Eastern European nations and turning them into satellites was imperialism.

    Zionism is more complicated because the Jews, unlike Algerians and Vietnamese, were not fighting to reclaim sovereignty… unless we go back 2000 yrs. Zionism was both nationalist(Jews want a homeland of their own) and imperialist(taking land from Palestinians).

    That said, surely Jews who use terrorism to blow up non-Jews are better than Jews who use terrorism to blow up fellow Jews.

    • Replies: @George True
  85. MEexpert says:

    For all his Deep State talk Trump didn’t have the balls to pardon Assange and Snowden or even fire his enemies Wray and meat head Milley.

    Maybe he wasn’t allowed by the Deep State?

  86. ‘Assange attracted the ire of the ruling class when he obtained in 2010 a classified video from an unidentified source that showed an unprovoked 2007 shooting incident involving U.S. Army helicopters in Baghdad in which a dozen completely innocent people were killed.’

    It’s somewhat beside the point, but if you study that footage, you will see that one of the group is indeed carrying a rocket launcher.

    I recall it very clearly. I insisted it showed no such thing, but I was eventually forced to concede it in fact did.

    None of this, of course, justifies the persecution Julian Assange has undergone.

  87. ‘More to the point, getting rid of Assange will accomplish nothing.’

    It would intimidate those who would imitate him.

  88. BorisMay says:

    He has repeatedly been accused of working for an Israeli faction that wants power or was in power at one time.

    Assange hacked in to the British National Party’s system and revealed the entire membership data base of 12,000 people.

    They mostly lost their employment and many their accommodation as a result.

    Since the British National Party is a legally constituted British political party that regularly stands in British elections and recognises the real problem within British democracy…dual passport holders purporting to be British but actually serving the interests of an illegal Middle Eastern country, it is clear that Assange has been working for that country and those people right from the start.

    Just because both you and the author of this article are ignorant of this fact doesn’t mean it is the first time you have heard this accusation, only that you are not as informed as you like to think you are.

    Every country has factions vying for power. Just that Assange made a bad decision in supporting a losing faction.

    But then Assange has a habit of poor decision making…going on the run, holing up in a South American embassy, trusting liars (the failed Israeli power base he aligned with initially), betraying the indigenous people of the nation he was visiting…so it is clear Asssnge is actually an incompetent.

    So the question is: why is he being presented as a competent source of information. Who benefits? The only people who benefit are the Jews. They see who their real enemies on the street are because these people are stupid enough to support a fraud. QED.

    It was the same with Nelson Mandela. The original Amnesty International investigative team decided Mandela was just a common criminal. It was not until the Marxist takeover of Amnesty in 1982 that Mandela suddenly became a political prisoner. Another fraud perpetrated by the usual suspects.

    You people are so gullible, ignorant and arrogant in your absolute ignorance as to be laughable. That’s why the Jews are laughing all the way to the bank.

  89. BorisMay says:

    Hasn’t it occurred to you that you are brainwashed about National Socialists?

    Their major battle was against International Finance…usury, international share trading and currency speculation to you and me. All things that denuded a nation of its wealth: denuded 1920s Germany, 2021 USA and every other nation (nation being people), you can think of.

    That together with 1% of the German population (all Jews) owning 30% of German land bought up during the Weimar Republic debacle caused by the US Jews imposing impossible to repay war reparations.

    You really need to get your act together because the things you write shows just how out of touch with reality you really are. Sad.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  90. @Priss Factor

    Russia was poised to invade Germany. Their armies and air forces were massed on Germany’s border. Germany’s invasion of Russia and Ukraine was a pre-emptive strike.

    • Replies: @Paul Greenwood
  91. @DanFromCT

    Your last sentence alone completely disqualifies you from intelligent discussion where evidence and logic matter. I am not a Jew by descent or choice and you can have no evidence to the contrary if you read my comments.

  92. @Paul Bustion

    Ridiculous on two counts. Where’s the “veneration”? And how the he’ll can he be “controlled upposition” when virtually imprisoned for nearly 10 years and now in Belmarsh?

    • Replies: @Paul Bustion
  93. RobinG says:

    Just in time. lol, Nazi fanboys Boris & George to the rescue!

  94. @HbutnotG

    He shoulda set himself some guidelines, though. Guideline #1 in the framing biz – distance yourself. But too late now.

    The one running the show probably followed that rule and did that, using Epstein as the day-to-day pimp.

  95. @Wizard of Oz

    ‘How the he’ll can he be “controlled upposition” when virtually imprisoned for nearly 10 years and now in Belmarsh?’
    Because I believe that his virtual imprisonment is a hoax that he is complicit in. I’m not an expert on this case, so I could be wrong here, but there certainly have been cases where espionage agents pretended to be enemies of governments that in reality they served. For example, Kim Philby pretended to be an AntiCommunist while in reality being a Soviet agent. I believe that there have been cases of espionage agents serving false prison sentences in order to keep up the charade.

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  96. Assange was betrayed by a German – Domscheidt-Berg – who fancied himself as a “Besserwisser”

    Ever since Blair and Blanket sold out British residents and nationals to the US DoJ with that extradition treaty rendering UK a colony of the USA it has been very dangerous.

  97. @George True

    Crap. Germany had put its border to the east of Warsaw and Prague.

  98. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a mafia state. Assange was a real whistleblower and revealed the truth of what was taking place to those who would listen. The rest are fake, the MSM is a complete propaganda loudspeaker. The difference is the lowly mob would never destroy countries or kill and displace millions while the US mafia state does so on a grand scale.

  99. I have much admiration for the courage and the work of Julian. I believe the US administration hasn’t shown that the documents published through Wikileaks have compromised the security of the US or are a form of espionage aimed at damaging the US interests.

    The extent of the leaks rather points to very poor security within the agencies themselves. If you leave your precious assets unattended, don’t be surprised if someone else grabs them. If the security of the leaked documents had been taken seriously by the federal agencies with proper security classification, need to know requirements, document access and duplication monitoring, then the documents wouldn’t have been leaked.

  100. @Paul Bustion

    That really was a brain farther wasn’t it😎?

    There’s no comparison with Kim Philby’s pretence while he was living a good life as a senior MI6 officer. Not confined or even having to pretend to be confined.

    And in fact, I know people who have visited him and the policeman expensively keeping him from escaping from the Ecuadorian Embassy were really there doing that job.

  101. anonymous[644] • Disclaimer says:

    There are two dimensions to the problem treated in this very incisive article. CIA officials bear responsibility for murder, torture, arbitrary detention and other crimes in international criminal law. Pompeo as DCI manifestly bears command responsibility for these systematic and widespread crimes. The DDO and scores of officers also bear criminal responsibility. US refusal to accept command responsibility makes the country a despised Neanderthal throwback in the transnational space.

    In universal jurisdiction law, individual responsibility of CIA criminals is complemented by state responsibility for internationally wrongful acts in breach of jus cogens. The US command structure – CIA – has arranged impunity in municipal law. That makes them the state. US “National security” is nothing but a bunch of legal pretexts for manifestly illegal acts. One such pretext is secrecy permitting ultra vires crime. Another is sham direction by CIA’s presidential puppet rulers like the bribed and blackmailed vegetable Biden. The CIA command structure bears responsibility for restitution, compensation with interest and satisfaction. When the SCO gets fed up with CIA Neanderthals in power, the SIS will swing and the reparations will make the Treaty of Versailles look like a parking ticket.

    There’s no stopping US state crime without dismantling the CIA regime and trying its official criminals. Your government is a criminal enterprise and you’ve got to shitcan it. Or else a nuclear-armed alliance will do it for you. Regrettably, COG provisions disperse the CIA command structure amid the civilian population, using major cities as human shields. So if CIA doesn’t go quietly, a lot of their subject population will get incinerated. That’s how CIA wants it – they’re holding you hostage.

    You live in a totalitarian state under CIA control. Americans have put up for this shit for 72 years. Wake me up when you get tired of it.

  102. starthorn says:

    Everyone that continues to consider Assange, Snowden etc. ‘heroes’ of any kind conveniently ignores their efforts to sell those secrets both truthful and fabricated. Nothing selfless or for the people about them.

  103. Anonymous[127] • Disclaimer says:

    Do we know the explanation for the anamolies of Oct/Nov 2016? Assange seemingly disappeared, lost his twitter handle, Wkileaks staff supposedly were arrested or scattered, the twitter account reappeared but linked to somewhere else, etc. (scroll down to Nov, 2016).

    Were the staffers ever accounted for?

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