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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will be visiting Washington during the first week in March. His annual visit coincides with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) summit in Washington, at which he is expected to speak. He will also be addressing a joint session of Congress on March 3rd as a guest of the new Republican majority. Per Speaker of the House John Boehner, Netanyahu will be providing additional insights regarding the threats posed by Iran and by Islamic terrorism, which the president had “papered over” in his State of the Union address. Boehner has in mind promotion of policies that would be contrary to those embraced by the White House, most particularly President Barack Obama’s intention to continue negotiations to come to an understanding over Iran’s nuclear program. That would mean Congress’s imposing new and intentionally deal breaking sanctions on Iran just to show it we are serious and a possible demand that any agreement with Tehran be subject to legislative approval.

Netanyahu has frequently warned that Iran’s construction of a nuclear arsenal is just around the corner. He has been making that claim regularly since 1996 and apparently is not particularly bothered that his warning has proven to be inaccurate since the Mullahs have yet to develop the long anticipated weapon of mass destruction. He will no doubt again express his view that there is a secret Iranian weapons program that imminently threatens both Israel and the United States. It is not clear if he will produce a cartoon showing a ticking bomb as he famously did at the United Nations in 2012.

Concerning the terrorist threat, Netanyahu will undoubtedly play the Charlie Hebdo card, insisting that it is the duty of the West united with Israel to oppose Islamic barbarism. It will be convenient dodge as it allows him to avoid answering for what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and it conveniently conflates all believers in a specific religion with political violence. No matter what Netanyahu says he will undoubtedly be cheered both when he speaks to Congress and also by the 1,500 attendees at AIPAC, which will include many Congressmen, journalists, and even Supreme Court justices. He will be treated like visiting royalty even though his message is essentially one of hate.

It is my understanding that a number of groups are organizing to protest both AIPAC and the Netanyahu visit. I hope they will be highly visible and noisy as hell, possibly forcing some of the summit attendees to think about just what they are supporting. I also urge the demonstrators to focus on Netanyahu’s actual message because everything that he has come to Washington to sell is essentially false.

Starting with Iran, the entire narrative of Iran as a nuclear threat is bogus, largely invented in Israel and the United States and in part based on manufactured evidence. I am not suggesting for a moment that Iran is a friend to the American people, but its malignancy has been much overstated by the Israel Lobby and its friends. It does not threaten the United States in any way and it hardly impacts on the security of countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia, both of which should be worrying about their viability based on their own behavior rather than due to an exaggerated Iranian menace. The reality is that the United States government has twice in 2007 and 2011 confirmed that Iran has no nuclear weapons program. Even Israel’s Mossad agrees and both governments admit that Tehran has not made the essentially political decision to proceed with such a program.

Not only has Iran neither developed nor tested a nuclear device, she has never enriched her uranium stocks to anything approaching weapons-grade. Her Fordow “secret” plant and other nuclear sites now have IAEA inspectors in place, the heavy-water reactor at Arak is not operational and many centrifuges are not operating. Most Iranians and many Americans understand that a negotiated settlement over the program as an alternative to a major regional war is highly desirable.

Netanyahu’s second point will be that the world is threatened by Islamic terrorism, requiring democratic nations to stand by Israel. But standing by Israel and adopting the Israeli standards for dealing with terrorism are precisely the problem. The only places in the world where Islamists have the remotest ability to take power are in those countries where the United States adhered to the Israeli model and intervened militarily, leaving chaos in its wake. Today that would include Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan and Syria. Highly publicized terrorist attacks in Europe and in the United States have killed relatively few people and produced a predictably panicked response but do not threaten either a national security crisis or the stability of any government. In the U.S. since 9/11 there have been 69 deaths, either terrorist or criminal, that can plausibly be linked to Muslims or Islamic sensibilities, less than five a year. During the same time period 200,000 Americans have been murdered, making terrorism by local Muslims pretty much a statistical anomaly. For what it’s worth, the policies being pursued overseas by Washington during the same time period directly or indirectly contributed to the killing of as many as half a million Muslims while turning at least three million more into refugees, which inevitably fuels terrorism.

A third point that Netanyahu will not be making as he is a beneficiary of it is the astonishing power of the Israel Lobby in the United States. As John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt demonstrated in their book, the Lobby is in reality a loose aggregation that is bound together to promote what are perceived to be Israeli interests. It includes think tanks, PACS and other lobbying groups, journalists and media outlets, Christian evangelicals, leading figures in academia and it is all backed up by deep pocket donors who both fund political candidates and provide the fuel to keep everything moving. Pat Buchanan once described Congress as “Israeli occupied territory,” but to be sure he was being too kind and Tom Friedman’s observation that it is bought and paid for by the Lobby might actually be closer to the mark. In an actual occupation there would characteristically be at least some resistance but in the United States Congress there is virtually none now that Ron Paul is retired. If any daring congressmen stay home sick when Netanyahu speaks it will be a surprise and the only real question regarding the impending joint session address is how many standing ovations the Israeli leader will receive. Will it exceed the 29 he recorded last time around?

So there are three good reasons for saying “no” to Benjamin Netanyahu, or, even better, telling him to go away and stay away. First, he is striving mightily to involve the United States in a war with Iran for which there is no compelling national interest and which will cost Americans heavily in both lives and treasure. Second, he has poisoned Washington’s relationship with the Muslim world through the largely successful selling of his message that all believers in Islam are essentially terrorists. And third, he and his associates in the Israel Lobby are a cancer in our political system, using money and even coercion to bring about a “special relationship” that is hardly a relationship at all but is instead a mechanism to impel U.S. subordination to Israeli interests.

It is shameful that Netanyahu will be in Washington at all on a mission to tell the U.S. Congress what to do, but one can always hope that both he and Speaker Boehner have finally gone too far. Will this be a wake-up call for the American public, aware at last that it is being led by the nose by a foreign country aided by its own venal and corrupted quislings? One can always hope, and it might just be that Netanyahu will finally pay a price for his hubris with his own voters next month and be turned out of office. Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to say that we have seen the last of Benjamin Netanyahu?

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  1. Hersh says:
    The comments, especially the reader picks, are not just anti-Netanyahu, they are often anti-Israel. NY Times comments are moderated so this is a case of the Times allowing commenters to voice resistance to Israel.

    President Obama took on a sacred cow and put Democrats in a position of having to choose between not alienating black voters, the essential Democratic base in so many states, vs the donors and they are going to have to go with the black voters, who are very sensitive to any slights to Obama.

    Could get interesting.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @annamaria
    , @0we'n'r0cair0
  2. eah says:

    Netanyahu’s primary concern is that despite their denials Iran is developing nuclear weapons. I don’t know if they are or not (Israel may have specific intelligence about that); but of course it’s possible. And given Iran’s (often hyperbolic to the point of being absurd) rhetoric about Israel, one can understand Israel’s concern — is a nuclear-armed Iran “good for Americans”?

  3. @eah

    How could a nuclear-armed Iran ever be good for America?

    As for Mr. Giraldi, the case in favor of a nuclear Iran would be more convincing if it came from someone who didn’t see nuking Israel as a positive prospect.

  4. @eah

    Netanyahoo’s primary concern is getting reelected. He has been periodically saying that Iran is 6 months away from building a nuclear weapon since he was first elected as Prime Minister in 1996. What comes out of Netanyahoo’s mouth is only propaganda. The U.S. intelligence agencies have repeatedly stated that Iran has not made a decision to pursue a nuclear weapons program and does not now have such a program. Israeli Mossad concurs with the U.S. assessment.

    A nuclear Iran is no threat to the U.S. and, frankly, it might be a good thing to have Iran with nuclear weapons. It might help to dampen Israel’s bellegerent war mongering and frequent attacks on its neighbors. Iran has not attacked any of its neighbors in hundreds of years. The same can’t be said of Israel or its continued theft of land. In 2014 Israel destroyed 590 Palestinian buildings in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem and displaced 1,177 people.

    The U.S. should reestablish diplomatic relations with Iran, strategically it is a more important potential ally than Israel.

    • Replies: @Aaron Klein
    , @Eileen Kuch
  5. It’s Israel that is nuclear armed, not Iran, and it’s Israel that makes it clear it is ready to use its nuclear weapons. However, it is safer to goad the United States into a conventional war with Iran that will cost Israel nothing, in the interest of enhancing parochial regional power interests, as Likud mistakenly misdefines them, letting Americans by proxy do the killing and dying. Elite western interests are still galled that indigenous Iranians overthrew the dictator in 1978 that they had installed by coup against a nationalist democracy at the behest of Anglo-American oil interests in 1953, which economic sentiment dovetails with Likudnik aims. It ought to be obvious that none of the manipulative rush to war is really in the best interests of most Americans, most Israelis or the vast number of ordinary Persians who are to be sacrificed, unfortunately on what appears to be an alter of elite greed and manufactured hatred.

    Historically, Persia’s invaded no one for long centuries. The Iraq-Iran War was encouraged by U.S. arms and chemical weapons supplied to then-ally dictator Saddam Hussein, visited, advised and embraced by no less than Donald Rumsfeld as the Iraqi dictator waged pre-emptive war on Iran.

    It is true that the coming war, ginned up with full-throated baying jingoism, is in the economic and political interest of the few who will safely profit on a vast scale. The lives of others, whether foreign or those of our own soldiers, are of no consequence to them except insofar as how much those lives or deaths accrue to their bottom line.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Pete
  6. @eah

    If it is good for the Israelis, Chinese, Russians, Americans, French, English, Pakistani, Indians and North Koreans to have Nukes, why wouldn’t it be good for Iranians to have them? Especially when you have a potential president of the biggest warmachine on earth, McCain, singing about bombing your country? I’d be looking for something to at least pause them too.

    Maybe it is actually ‘Good for Americans’ when the rest of the world has got it’s own nuclear capabilities. The US government might be a bit more reluctant to send out it’s ‘warriors’.

    • Replies: @quercus
    , @Ace
  7. Patriot says:

    Israel’s pressure to get the USA to fight more wars for Israel is intense, pervasive, and never-ending.

    Watch the Feb. 2, 2015 edition of Fox News Bill O’Reilly’s “Talking Points,” about Nazis (of course).
    During my initial viewing, and without even trying, I counted 7 outright lies by O’Reilly and John McCain, and an additional 10 or so errors in logic.

    See if you can find more than that.

    • Replies: @Realist
  8. SFG says:

    Lots of liberal Jews are P.O.ed at Israel.

    If you read the comments on any IQ story, Steve Sailer will often pop up and get 10 recommends or so before they notice and kick him off. On immigration stories, they would get so many people complaining about the effects on wages they actually had an editorial by some bigshot trying to respond.

  9. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website

    oxymoron: “Israeli intelligence”

    There is zero proof that Iran is building nuclear weapons. There is certainty that Israel, “that shitty little country,” has hundreds.

    And don’t even try the ‘wipe Israel off the face of the map’ canard.

    ‘Hasbara Handbook …’
    “Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message. To effectively present Israel to the public, and to counter anti-Israel messages, it is necessary to understand propaganda devices.”


    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
  10. eisermann says: • Website

    “Fallout from criminal indictments of AIPAC staffers caught red-handed trafficking classified information in 2004-2005 that were quietly unwound under mysterious judicial rulings and even more DOJ acquiescence in 2009 has put AIPAC’s activities under a new spotlight. AIPAC briefly considered a media campaign to smear US law-enforcement officials but instead cut its losses by dumping Rosen. This led to Rosen’s \$20 million retaliatory defamation lawsuit which opened up shocking new insights about AIPAC. In 2010, true to form, AIPAC let loose a salvo of pornography and prostitution charges — which succeed more in revealing AIPAC’s decrepit work environment than anything about its former top executive-branch lobbyist. But the secret that AIPAC is an organization that has been breaking US laws since its emergence from the AZC in 1963 is now officially “out of the bag.” The list of US classified documents stolen and misused by AIPAC grew larger in 2010, even as the IRS is again asked to retroactively revoke AIPAC’s tax exemption.”

    article, Washington Showdown with AIPAC Prohibited activities again catching up with lobby

    • Replies: @travell-lyte
  11. quercus says:
    @Willem Hendrik

    I couldn’t agree more — as far as I am concerned, either every nation that can produce them should have nuclear weapons, or none should. If Israel is such a staunch ally of the US why did they produce their own weapons? The answer to that is because they don’t trust the US, ultimately, or anyone, and neither should any other nation. And yes, Iran particularly when it is threatened by loud mouths such as John McCain, representing as he does a powerful nation — should desire to have its own nuclear weapons. If they aren’t actively developing them they are indeed a model of restraint.

    Furthermore, it’s okay to be anti-Israel given that it’s okay to be anti North Korea, anti-China, anti Iran, etc., etc.

    I don’t think the breakdown in the Middle East is accidental, but a preconceived plan to destabilize, and therefore weaken all Israel’s perceived enemies.

  12. conatus says:

    Didn’t Jeff Gates express similar but more far reaching (and thus less confirm-able) accusations about our misdirected Foreign policy in his book Guilt by Association. Wasn’t he a VN vet and counsel to Senate Finance committee for a few years?

    Sure some of his ideas reach waay waay back into history and are pretty hard to confirm but still, it is a Free country…right?

    By the way….what happened to Jeff Gates blog or website, ‘criminalstate’
    I have never found anything explaining its disappearance either.

  13. Yonni says:

    Up until 1979, I believe Israel received most of it”s oil from Iran. The Shah’s internal police( Savak) were trained by Mossad. Alas’ reaching way back into the Crypto-nuke phase,weren’t these same Israelis shopping around nukes to the likes of Apartheid SA, Brazil, Turkey and even THE SHAH’s IRAN- shit the tech manuals were probably in Hebrew:) Mutually Assured complicity? SPEAK VANUNU SPEAK!

  14. @International Jew

    Establishes a Sunni/Shia balance of power, Pakistan’s Sunni nukes matched by Iranian Shia nukes, leading to more stability in the region.
    Although I guess reducing US freedom of action also contributes to ME stability. Stability seems to me to be in US interests but invade-the-worlders seem to disagree.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  15. chris says:

    Thanks for another great article, Phil !

    The funniest part about this story is that ‘yahoo decided to just cut out the middle man and go and tell his underlings exactly how to vote, and they will certainly oblige and vote exactly how the boss said to; meet our actual commander-in-chief !

    It reminds me of Plutarch’s biography of a Greek emperor who claims that his infant son rules the Greeks; then he says: ‘well, I rule the Greeks, his mother rules me, and he rules his mother’

    Still I do have to say that besides the comic relief, this and many other incidents do show the limits of the power of the empire: when “the most powerful man in the world” is sent crying to his room when the boss is in town, there is a glimpse of light for liberty – in the long term,that is.

  16. annamaria says:

    Netanyahu represents Israel the same way Putin represents Russia. Don’t we put sanctions to punish Putin, which affect all people in Russia?
    First we need implementation of FARA towards AIPAC. Second, we need to ask Israel firsters (with dual citizenship) in the US government, which country they actually have been representing and working for. And then, if Jewish super-wealthy donors wants to have their way, then let them support Israel financially but please spare the US taxpayers of paying for Israel’s illegal settlement and murderous behavior on the Israel-occupied territories. \$3000.000.000 per year is a lot of money.

  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Please, no more spectacles such as the nearly thirty standing ovations Netanyahu received last time. It’s just so undignified for our elected leaders to grovel and fawn over a foreign leader, particularly after the recent disproportionate punitive bombardment of Gaza. It would mark us as being in agreement with that nasty episode, something we really don’t need.
    I don’t have inside information so can’t say if Iran is working on building a nuclear weapon. However, it would be logical for them to do so. All they have to do is look around and see that the US has invaded weaker countries and torn them apart, turning them into abattoirs. To be weak is to be attacked. Israel reportedly has a couple hundred nuclear weapons so Iran may feel the need for it’s own nuclear deterrent just out of necessity. All they have to do is look next door to Iraq to see what happens when a country is weak and vulnerable. It’s certain they don’t intend to be the next victim. Even without any nuclear deterrent the Iranians have had the last fifteen or so years to prepare themselves in case of attack so any such eventuality would probably be far different from the cakewalks the US has enjoyed so far.

  18. MarkinLA says:

    What if even everything Bibi said is true? If Iran builds a bomb there is nothing short of a nuclear strike or invasion with at least 500,000 troops that could stop it. Who is willing to pay that price, especially since they won’t be a significant threat to the US or Europe any time soon? Let Israel pay the price if it thinks they can’t live with a nuclear Iran, why should we?

    Iran can build a bomb any time they want. They have uranium and the technology is 70 years old. They don’t need computers that can be hacked. If they are continually treated like the enemy, they will one day decide they have nothing to lose by building a bomb.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
  19. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Bill Blizzard and his Men"] says:

    Among the reasons why Netanyahou hates the Iranians:2014 Mathematics Fields Medal Winner Marayam Mirzakhani a young Iranian Muslim Women(area of research 3D hyperbolic geometry).

    I am a ultra-socially and culturally conservative ex-Catholic(genetically Irish) and at times I have intense hatred of Southern Evangelical Christians who are the fanatical supporters of Netanyahou in the US…I write as someone whose favorite region in the US is Apalachia.

    • Replies: @KA
  20. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Bill Blizzard and his Men"] says:

    “Appalachia”…double p

  21. Zechariah 12:1-3 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

  22. Realist says:

    “Saying “No” to Netanyahu”
    Name a politician that says no to money.

    • Replies: @Duglarri
  23. Realist says:

    Why would you subject yourself to the stupidity of O’Reilly and McCain?

  24. @Chet Roman

    Well said Chet Roman! You are right on the mark.

  25. Maj. Kong says:

    Hamas and Hezbollah actually do exist. They really do want to eliminate Israel.

    • Replies: @Palladino
  26. Maj. Kong says:

    The Iranians want the “Japan option”, turnkey deterrence. They still fear a US invasion, and its remotely possible that one could occur. They also have Sunni nuclear Pakistan next door.

    What the Iranians are really gunning for IMO, is forcing Israel to some kind of negotiated settlement via threats of handing over a dirty bomb to Hamas/Hezbollah. They want to do the same to the Saudis, who have a Shia minority in the oil provinces.

    It’s not popular to say it here, but Persia was the first empire. Today’s Persians haven’t forgotten.

    • Replies: @solontoCroesus
    , @MarkinLa
    , @KA
  27. Art says:

    Traditional American conservatism is dead – it has been replaced by neocon Zionism. Clearly this love fest between the world Zionist leader and 99% percent of America’s elected officials – shows that there is a new boss in town.

    It is sickening how the Republican Party is now serving the Zionist juggernaut. The Republican Party foreign policy is to pit Muslims against Christians in wars that are unnecessary, unwinnable, and that bleed our spirit. Republican domestic policies support bigness – big Wall Street banking, big Wall Street multinational corporations, and it passes bills that build the power of big Wall Street owned media. All these things enhance the power of Zionism – not the interests of the good American people.

    Under neocon Zionism the Republican Party agenda has turned into a soft fascism, where the American people are fed – big hate, big fear, and an overbearing martial mindset. The neocon Republican Party serves big military, big banking, big media, and big multinational corporations – not the American people whose heads are turned by fear, bigotry, and a false patriotism that is in reality militarism.

  28. @Simon in London

    Interesting. So Iranian nukes as a supplement to American Constitutional “checks and balances”. That wouldn’t have prevented either of our recent wars though; Iran hated Saddam, and didn’t care for the Taliban either. Seems to me, the only kind of American action Iranian nukes might deter would be an attack on Iran itself. And the only conceivable motive for that would be to destroy Iran’s nuclear program itself!

    Does Pakistan need “balancing”? Their beef is with India, not with Iran much less other Shia countries (Iraq? Lebanon??) Moreover, if Iran goes nuclear, you’ll get even more Sunni nukes — Saudi Arabia, a future Sunni-dominated Iraq, etc.

    I do give you credit for being the only one here with an argument in favor of nukes-for-Iran that doesn’t simply boil down to antipathy to Israel.

  29. Nice article Phil but I doubt hubris will catch up with Netanyahu, not in the USA at any rate. As to the why, it wouldn’t hurt to point out the Jewish component in AIPAC is a minority one; Christian Zionists are the majority substance and backbone of AIPAC and the Republican majority consists of Christian Zionists. The democrats meanwhile, are frightened of crossing AIPAC which is ridiculous, if only they’d wake up and realign with the ‘J Street’ lobby. I can agree with Pat Buchanan’s ‘Congress is occupied territory’, and would add the Republican majority is a Christian Zionist populated West Bank settlement (not a bad metaphor.) The Jewish-Christian Zionist dynamic is quite an insane oxymoron and is a bigger threat than a nuclear armed Iran, which would be incinerated and might be in any case whether they were to go nuclear or not:

    By way of criticism, I would only note the estimate of a half million dead Muslims is quite low

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    , @Anonymous
  30. Netanyahu Lied.
    Tens of thousands Died.

    In an earlier appearance before a US Congressional subcommittee, on Sept 12 2002, Netanyahu told fawning legislators (and some less-gullible persons who are no longer among the Elected, such as Dennis Kucinich & Connie Morella) that “Iraq is the keystone of the terror network” and that

    “there is no question that Saddam is seeking nuclear weapons, no question whatsoever.”

    The Congresspersons were urged to “support George Bush” who was, that very day, at the United Nations laying out his plan to invade Iraq. “If we take out the keystone of the terror network, the rest will follow” — Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iran.

    Congress took the US to war, based in no small measure on Netanyahu’s lies.

    nb. That’s Ron Dermer, “Bibi’s brain,” behind the Israeli PM’s left ear. Dermer, now Israel’s ambassador to the US, engineered the behind-the-back invitation to Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu Lied.
    Tens of thousands Died.

    Do we need any other argument?

    Boehner should be branded a traitor and shamed all the way back to Cincinnati.

  31. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Bill Blizzard and his Men"] says:

    You are also describing the Democratic Party in some crucial ways. There is nothing wrong with bigotry and racial-ethnic zenophobia…both are quite normal and widespread among the Human Species. By the way..the Democratic Party is in the process of instigating nuclear WW3 in the Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Art
  32. @Maj. Kong

    Maj. Kong —

    Hamas and Hezbollah actually do exist. They really do want to eliminate Israel.

    Not nearly as intensely as Israel seeks and acts to eliminate Palestinians AND Hamas and Hezbollah (which were, by the way, created by Israel in a bid to divide Arabs against themselves. Ooops.).

    It’s not popular to say it here, but Persia was the first empire. Today’s Persians haven’t forgotten.

    Indeed. And a far different type of empire it was — an empire that guaranteed universal rights for all in its orb, and one from which Jews, above all, benefited mightily.

    It is not extravagant to state that Yehud was catapulted from an insignificant tribal clandom to whatever claim it has today to prominence, by its rescue by the Persian monarchs and support from the Persian people.

    Mr. Giraldi, commenter Ronald Thomas West and others point to the support for Netanyahu’s war mongering from “Christian evangelicals.” It is important to recognize that the monarchs at the head of the Persian empire were Zoroastrian, and that Zoroastrian principles formed the foundation for the ethical principles in Judaism and in Christianity. War mongering is alien to the teachings of Zoroaster and of Jesus.

    However, as Michael Ledeen explained in a 2005 speech at another of the neocon think-tanks, genocide — mass killing — was sanctioned and practiced by Jews at Mount Sinai. It’s recorded in Exodus 37 that god instructed Moses to dispatch Levites (Ledeen claims to be a “proud Levite”) to slay those Jews who worshiped the golden calf; and that same ‘god’ required that an entire generation be wiped out before the remainder, presumably the Levite killers and their homicidal leader, Joshua, laid claim to the land of another people, the highly developed Canaanites and the agriculturalists in Jericho, who were likewise slaughtered by the followers of Yahweh.

    Don’t take my word for it; listen to neocon ‘scholar’ Michael Ledeen — The god of the neocons is a god who advocates, indeed requires, genocide.

    Christians would do well to return to their Zoroastrian roots and Jesusian morals and sever any Abrahamic confusions and connections.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
  33. Maj. Kong says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    “J Street” is George Soros, more importantly it isn’t “Anti-Zionist” which is the critical imprimatur for the majority of posters here.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  34. Maj. Kong says:

    So who are you exactly: Khaled Mashal or Esfandiar Mashaei?

    You’ll need to understand, that I am not a “revisionist”.

    The facts on the ground do not support the idea that Israel is engaged in a war of extermination against Hezbollah and Hamas. The actual charters and public rhetoric of those two organizations, do suggest they want to engage in a war of extermination against Israel but cannot.

    Retconning the scriptures to fit today’s propaganda, doesn’t work either.

    • Replies: @solontoCroesus
  35. Art says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    You are 100% correct – it is only a matter of shades of gray – selling out America is an equal opportunity endeavor – 535 elected officials, Republican and Democrat, will show up for this fear in!

    Here is link about Jewish interests in the Ukraine.

  36. MarkinLa says:
    @Maj. Kong

    Persia was the first empire

    Depends on what you call an empire. The Hittites were called en empire.

  37. @Maj. Kong

    “You’ll need to understand, that I am not a “revisionist”.

    Not sure what that means or how it’s pertinent, but I, too, am not a “revisionist.”
    Typically, lies are not “revised,” the tellers of them are punished.

    “The facts on the ground do not support the idea that Israel is engaged in a war of extermination against Hezbollah and Hamas. The actual charters and public rhetoric of those two organizations, do suggest they want to engage in a war of extermination against Israel but cannot.”

    So, you’re comparing actions to rhetoric/writing.
    Momma always said, Actions speak louder than words.

    Moreover, “the facts on the ground” (actions) demonstrate that Israel is the Aggressor/occupier and Hezbollah & Hamas the Occupied/resistance/Defender. International law grants defenders in occupied territory the right to resist in any way feasible.

    That same international law mandates that an occupying force NOT take the lands etc. of the occupied area, nor oppress the people of the occupied region. Not only is Israel acting in ways that violate these requirements, it does so by design and plan — a plan suggested in the rhetoric/writing of, among others, David Ben Gurion at least as early as 1937 —

    Is that the best you can do to respond to the reality that Zoroaster preceded recorded Hebrew scripture etc.?

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
  38. @International Jew

    Well I read the “Iran wants nukes vs Pakistan, not Israel” suggestion on some site like this one. The argument was that Israel can wipe out Iran easily with hundreds of nukes (plus the US ones for backup) whereas vs Pakistan a few nukes is at least an effective status symbol.

    I’m not sure how plausible this is; as you indicate Pakistan can’t really act vs Iran without risking India coming in. The likely main effect of nuclear Iran would be to constrain Israeli & US action. I tend to think that constraint would probably be stabilising, as we have seen with other nuclear freezes, but no way to tell for sure.

    Anyway it does not look that Iran will have nukes any time soon.

  39. @International Jew

    “the only kind of American action Iranian nukes might deter would be an attack on Iran itself. And the only conceivable motive for that would be to destroy Iran’s nuclear program itself!”

    I would think Iran has or had a reasonable concern that the US might attack Iran purely for regime change, to Let Freedom Flow or somesuch, and/or because of Iranian chemical WMD as per Iraq. The US & clients have attacked lots of countries, including ones much less hostile to the US than Iran is, so the assumption would be she doesn’t need an excuse. However I would agree that an active nuclear programme would make an attack much more likely.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  40. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    How could a nuclear-armed Iran ever be good for America?

    Probably wouldn’t be good for America. One more nuclear armed country to worry about. However, the question is: who is going to stop them? Iran is a large country, eighty million strong. Former CIA employee and author Robert Baer estimates that war against Iran would end up being a multi-decade one requiring a reinstitution of the draft. In short, it’d be a major and expensive war. Who is going to pay the price for that?

    Is a nuclear armed Israel good for America? What about Pakistan and India? Probably not but it’s a reality. For that matter why is it a given that France and Britain are entitled to have nuclear weapons? The US and USSR didn’t seem to think they had to ask anyone’s permission to build an atomic bomb. The genie is out of the bottle. An international system of peaceful balance has to be arrived at to assure countries they won’t be victims of a first strike. That can’t be done while the US goes around the world attacking and invading countries at will.

  41. First week of March, here’s what’s going to happen.

    Netanyahu is going to saunter on into Washington, and proceed to b_tchslap old mom-jeans In Chief in his own town, while we look on bemused. Then, confident that he has made his point once again, Netanyahu will pimp-strut his way on out.

    Classy guy, that Netanyahu!

  42. @Simon in London

    Given America’s proven propensity for striking almost anywhere in the world, do you then advocate nukes for everybody? Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Haiti, Grenada… Why, France is pretty aggressive too, so, nukes for Chad, Mali, Ivory Coast, Senegal…?

    The first-best solution would be that no one have nukes. But that horse left the barn, and I doubt the second-best solution is nukes-for-all.

  43. noizpots says:

    My, my, so many comments. You seem to have hit a nerve. Well done, Mr. Giraldi!

  44. The Christian Zionists are a huge problem, but it is simply absurd to claim that they are the driving force behind DC’s pro-Israel obsequie. Jews are the financial engine of the Democratic party, and increasingly the Republican as well. (Show me a Christian Adelson or Saban.) It is almost a certainty that when Netanyahu addresses Congress, the Democrats will applaud just as much as the Republicans, it will resemble the Politburo groveling before Stalin.

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:


    “From the Israeli apartheid page on Facebook, a photo of a bus in Jerusalem and this caption:

    Israel’s bus company Egged has accepted this ad in Jerusalem:

    “Statement of the kingdom. From the teachings=instructions of the [Lubavitcher] rabbi

    The Gentile does not want anything. He waits to be told what the Jew wants!”

    The Lubavitcher rabbi was Menachem Mendel Schneerson (1902-1994). Schneerson died in NY and is buried there. If this ad were on a bus in NY, people would say it was anti-Semitic. But then, it couldn’t be on a bus in NY, could it?

    P.S. Egged subsidiary EBS, had just lost a 320M euro 10-year contract in Haarlem district, Netherlands (Pop 155,000), after some demonstrations against its complicity in apartheid.

    – See more at:”

  46. Hibernian says:
    @Fran Macadam

    They don’t invade in the traditional sense, just back terrorists.

  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I would bet that a majority of those Congressmen who stand and ovate actually detest this guy – these fellows have monstrous egos after all – there has to be a sizable proportion that long to have a chance to get back at him for the constant indignities they are made to suffer. You cannot begin to imagine with what arrogance Israel’s emissaries dictate conduct to members of the US Congress – an arrogance born of decades of having their own way: an arrogance that has become habitual, institutionalized and unquestioned.

    We’re all aware that our representatives possess human frailties but I will also bet that Israel’s US infrastructure has a huge body of evidence of such frailties squirreled away. The “finance engines” mentioned elsewhere here, and even the assurance of ‘appropriate’ media coverage, are insufficient to explain the astounding and shameful degree of obsequiousness we are so often forced to witness.

  48. Hibernian says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “(Show me a Christian Adelson or Saban.)”

    Try Gates or Buffet.

    • Replies: @Bang bang
    , @KA
  49. Maj. Kong says:

    I’m a foreign policy realist, I don’t have much confidence in the nebulous “international law” regime. The international system is set up to maintain the 1945 balance, and only allows division of nations.

    The Israelis can only be called occupiers of the Golan, the West Bank is properly “disputed territory” rather than occupied, as Jordan isn’t contesting sovereignty.

    I tend to take the idea that losing a few wars (1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982) means that there is a price to pay. Egypt and Jordan paid the price, a Syria interested in maturity would too, as would the corrupt Fatah.

    Mainstream academia puts the OT at 600 BC, and Zoroaster around the same time. The same mainstream people don’t actually think the OT describes real events, but the events are presumed to have occurred from 2000 BC – 800 BC.

    • Replies: @KA
    , @Jim
  50. Bang bang says:

    What did Buffet do? What did Gates do?

  51. @International Jew

    In hindsight it would have been best if Serbia/Yugoslavia had had nukes, yes. I can’t judge what the result might have been had Libya had nukes. It’s arguable that Pakistan’s ISI has a freer hand promoting terrorism because Pakistan is nuclear-armed, but alternatively the Pakistan-US alliance might be the bigger factor in giving Pakistan a free hand.

    I don’t think no nukes is better; without nukes there would likely have been major post-WW2 conventional wars with tens of millions dead, notably USSR vs USA/UK in Europe.

  52. Art says:

    Tell U.S. Congress not to attend Netanyahu’s speech

    Join us in raising our voices to protest Prime Minister Netanyahu’s planned speech to the U.S. Congress, not because it’s a partisan snub, nor because the date is close to the Israeli elections, but because Netanyahu is going to Washington to undermine the U.S. strategy of diplomacy with Iran.

    Instead of letting diplomacy work, Netanyahu wants the U.S. to impose harsher sanctions on Iran, all but ensuring that talks collapse and increasing the risk of war.

    Please sign the petition:

  53. @Maj. Kong

    Just to let you know where I stand, I have little sympathy for the ‘international Jewish conspiracy’ people who seem to miss the fact that of the most corrupt and powerful people in this world, a handful happen to be Jewish. That just make Soros equal to Bill Gates and makes Jews equal to the rest to us. That said, J Street favors a West Bank disengagement and that’s a good beginning. If J Street belongs to Soros, so what? A pragmatist would look at that and understand he’s not as insane as Netanyahu. So why would that be a poor choice for democrats in ‘occupied territory’?

    Insofar as your “J Street … isn’t “Anti-Zionist” which is the critical imprimatur for the majority of posters here” that comes as coming from a self-important buffoon, the thought police, or is simply disingenuous if meant to imply I’m not anti-Zionist; for the fact the link I’d left is quite clear and I’ll put it up again for your edification:

    ^ Too bad if you don’t like alternative views

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  54. Duglarri says:

    No, Netanyahu’s primary concern is not a secret nuclear program. Who are you going to believe- a politician whose entire career has depended on whipping up fear to distract attention, or the intelligence services that the US pays 100 billion dollars a year to maintain, who, all 17 of them, say with complete conviction that Iran has no nuclear program?

    Netanyahu needs an external threat to keep the guns and money flowing, and to keep attention away from the annexation of Judea and Samaria. Imagine if the entire country of Iran all at once turned to Judaism. What then?

    Netanyahu would be demanding that the United States eliminate the existential threat posed by Pakistan.

  55. Andrew P says:
    @International Jew

    A nuclear Iran is only good for America if Iran and the Islamic State slay each other right down to the ants and roaches.

  56. Duglarri says:

    Actually up here in Canada all politicians say no to money because they’re not allowed to take any. They can spend only about \$1.30 per voter per riding per election, which means our equivalent of a congressman has to raise around \$60,000, and can’t spend any more than that. People who spend more are charged with a crime and have to resign. Which happened to one just a few weeks ago.

    Perhaps everyone who is concerned about Netanyahu’s influence should turn to this problem. His influence is completely dependent on the way your system is completely open to the influence of money.

    It’s not too much to say that your system is like having an elementary school, and arguing that it is only fair that pedophiles should be allowed to tour the premises on a routine basis because they’re people too.

  57. Pete says:
    @Fran Macadam

    To; Fran Mac; perfectly written, and accurate. Sad duty to inform you that you and John the Baptist have something in common; you are voices “crying in the wilderness”. The very last to get this message will be the fellow who is; “good at killing”.

  58. @Ronald Thomas West

    Soros equal to Bill Gates? Is Gates now financing color-revolutions all over the place, or launching currency attacks against foreign countries? As far as I’m concerned, Gates’ only sin is being the inventor of a mediocre operating system.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  59. @Seamus Padraig

    Bill Gates is into big pharma, promotes GMO and thinks he’s god on social issues around the world. Too bad your uninformed on the issues, but that’s what happens when people keep a narrow focus (read obsessed), they miss half of what’s going on:

    ^ Not so different to Soros in some respects, perhaps different prejudices and meddling but playing god nonetheless

  60. @Chet Roman

    Chet, you just nailed this one perfectly. A nuclear Iran is definitely no threat to the US, and could very well pose a deterrent to Israel’s belligerence in the Middle East.
    However, Iran’s not about to develop nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic’s a signatory to the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty; and, second, its Supreme Leader has issued a Fatwa (religious decree) prohibiting the development and/or use of nuclear weapons. Furthermore, Iran’s leaders feel no need for nuclear weapons, since its conventional weaponry is advanced enough to repel any Israeli attack. Its S-300 and other, similar radar-evading, supersonic anti-aircraft, anti-ship and anti-missile systems provide sufficient protection for the 75-80 million population, and also destroy the Zionist Entity with one or two accurate strikes on its Dimona Nuclear Weapons Facility in the Negev Desert.
    Last of all, Chet, Iran has at least Russia’s back; and China’s capable of supplying the Islamic Republic with more advanced weaponry.

  61. KA says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I am not a big fan of religion. But one can’t eliminate it .We have to live. Its an illuiosn. So is the life
    Catholics,Islam and Buddhism are sources of peace and hope to billions and that what counts to me.

  62. KA says:

    Iran (also HAMAS and Hijbullah ) has agreed to 2 state solution. Iran even has said that a mutually agreed (between Israel and Palestine ) formula of co existence would be accecptable to Iran.
    They all have agreed to 200 0 , 2002 and again 2006 to Arab proposal of coexistence ,2State solution based on 1967 borders .
    Israel has admitted of plans made 5-6 months before 2006 ,2009,2014 Isreli aggression against Gaza and Lebanon.Isreal this year alone carried out 2 attacks against Syria and 6 last year . Israel ahs assisinated Iranian scientist and thretaend to nuke. “Bomb Bomb Iran” crowd from US were paid by Zionist to do so. Israel has been alone instrumental in organizing sanctions against Iran and blockading Gaza .
    Despite concession after concession.Israel has not t given up the idea of colonizing West Bnak and keeping Gaza as acollection caged prisoners.
    So it can be easily understood why Hizbullah and Hamas do sometimes claim to fight Israel. until the lands are freed from the exploitative occupation.
    Iran could be hyperbolic. But it is not the words that matter. Its the deeds .From its very inception and germination from 1890 Zionist never had any inclination of living among Arab as a normal country with a defined boundary . Provoking the week Arabs to exact profitable gainful revenges and enlarging the territories were it’s existential mission. It ha not changed.


    then there are acrhived articles from 1947 – of New York Times itself–5

  63. Netanyahu speaks it will be a surprise and the only real question regarding the impending joint session address is how many standing ovations the Israeli leader will receive. Will it exceed the 29 he recorded last time around?

    Aren’t American patriots humiliated by this Stalinist charade? If anyone needed proof of the extent to which Israel owns the US govt, this revolting spectacle should be shown over and over again.

  64. KA says:
    @Maj. Kong

    [It is not an issue that Iran will get the bomb and world would change. World would change since Iran would’nt do anything different once it got the bomb ]- Danielle Pletka – of American Enterprise Institute.

    Israeli deputy PM and militray officers have suggested same thing that an Iranian bomb will restrict the free hand of Israel. It will pose an effective resistance to continued Israeli aggression and pre -emptive attacks against Arab neighbours.

  65. KA says:

    There is another one -Paul Singer :

    “TIP’s growing hostility to Obama’s ongoing negotiations with Iran also came to the fore three weeks ago, when Obama reportedly suggested “donors” were behind some of the attempts to sabotage talks with sanctions. Block went apoplectic, telling the Washington Post’s far-right columnist Jennifer Rubin, “It’s a vile suggestion and one that will only damages [sic] the President’s personal credibility and his position.”

    So who are the major donors behind TIP, an organization who, under Block’s leadership, has emerged as an attack dog against the White House’s Iran-policy?

    A document (viewable here) acquired by The Nation lists TIP’s major donors from October 2012 to September 2013, revealing that just two billionaire hedge funders provided over one-third of the group’s total revenue. The two funders with the outsize roles were GOP megadonor Paul Singer and Hillary Clinton booster Richard Perry. Each contributed \$1 million, making them TIP’s two largest donors.
    TIP= The Israeli Project

  66. KA says:
    @Maj. Kong

    There is a price to pay and it will come with compounded interest for Israel. Words have been used by Israel to change the perception for thousand of years . So the words conveying the opposite will be created .

    It doesnt matter if OT were ture or not but the OT underpins the very arguments that have been repeatedly used by the zionist for its creation and maintainance.

    [One thing that is unacceptable on this website is rampant “sock-puppetry,” namely leaving multiple comments with different names to pretend your views are much more widespread than they are. This is a serious warning: if you continue doing this, your future comments will be summarily trashed.]

  67. @International Jew

    A nuclear armed Iran is as good or as bad for America as a nuclear armed Israel.I would say,in fact a nuclear armed Israel is more dangerous to America since present day “special relationship” could take a reverse gear.

  68. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    this is a banal and pathetic supposition on your part. it’s clear you’ve missed the entire point. if you’re going to assert iran has a program, then you need to prove it. i imagine you missed the part in the above missive about our own intelligence agencies finding no evidence in 2007 and in 2011. and how does a nuclear armed iran have any effect on america? in case you forgot, the u.s. has thousands of icbms and any attack would be met with a massive retaliation. as for “israel’s concerns”, they already have nukes genius..what about the concerns of the world for peace? y

  69. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Ron. Your comment on the number of non Jews in AIPAC got me thinking. Is it possible that Corporate investors are using AIPAC as a tool for fomenting profitable wars? Some commentators imply that America is a stooge to Israel, but could it be the other way around? The sudden thought frightens me.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  70. @Hersh

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    Jacob Schiff founds the National Advancement for the Association of the Coloured People (NAACP).
    This is done to incite black people into rioting, looting and other forms of disorder, in order to cause
    a rift between the black and white communities.

    Jewish historian, Howard Sachar, states the following in his book, A History of the Jews in America

    “In 1914, Professor Emeritus Joel Spingarn of Columbia University became chairman of the NAACP
    and recruited for its board such Jewish leaders as Jacob Schiff, Jacob Billikopf, and Rabbi Stephen Wise.”

    Other Ashkenazi Jew co-founders included Julius Rosenthal, Lillian Wald and Rabbi Emil G. Hirsch.
    It would not be until over 60 years later in the 1970’s that the NAACP would appoint its
    first black president, Benjamin Hooks.

    “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tension. By pounding into the consciousness
    of the dark races, that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them into the program …
    In America, we aim for several victories. While inflaming the Negro minorities against the whites,
    we will instill in the whites a guilt complex for their supposed exploitation of the Negroes.
    We will aid the Blacks to rise to prominence in every walk of life and … With this prestige, the Negro
    will be able to intermarry with the whites and
    will begin the process which will deliver America to our cause.”

    •Israel Cohen
    A Radical Program For The Twentieth Century, 1912

    Congressional Record , Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957
    •Rep. Thomas Abernathy


    Rep. Robert Wexler
    Rep. Jan Schakowsky
    Rep. Steve Rothman
    Rep. DebWasserman

    rep.rep etc.etc inter aliya & et al laM.0!4black\/oters

  71. @Robespierre

    Are you so terrified of being called “anti-Semitic”, even in a non-mainstream forum like this, that you are willing to resort to such silliness? Talk about psychological conditioning. There is no need to overthink organizations like AIPAC. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck…

  72. @Anonymous

    Nice observation. Chevron Corporation is example of an organization where the controlling personalities are rabid Christian Zionists. Illustrating this, two past board directors who remain active at high level within the corporation are Condoleezza Rice and General James Jones, both fundamentalist Christian Zionists, each had gone direct from the Chevron board to National Security Adviser (Bush & Obama respectively.)

    Here you see them acting as Chevron hand in ‘national security’ glove, developing ‘civil society’ leadership model (for other nations, of course.)

    When ‘soft’ means fail, they do not hesitate resorting to state sponsored violence, as a means to an end.

    Insofar as how Israel plays, Netanyahu leads a state that American geopolitics has engineered into an ever more precarious position, it’s not only the Israelis creating the circumstance .. and the paranoia generated serves to prop up reactionary polices in Israel coming from a people with a historic persecution complex (not unfounded) but more importantly, inter-generational violence syndrome from which the irrational Israeli violence springs. And this makes TONS of money on both parties part, the Israelis are big into arms trafficking, as well they serve as a R & D laboratory for corporations such as Raytheon anti-missile systems. In the mix of this, these days MOSSAD and CIA are to some extent fused in clandestine operations, particularly relating to assassinations. There is no doubt in my mind at all, if Rice wanted someone taken out on behalf of Chevron, MOSSAD would attempt to get the job done and the reverse would be true as well, where CIA will take down persons deemed a threat by Netanyahu and cronies, especially in relation to exposing corporate corruption and the political ties relevant to this. By trading targets, they throw off the bloodhounds per motive. All of this insane business is great for the bottom line, that is profits. Setting aside the Jewish stereotype, I would point out the Christian fundamentalists hold if you are making obscene amounts of money, god is blessing you. It’s all equal in any corrupt state.

    Meanwhile, both the neo-con parties, Christian Zionist and Israeli Zionist, are badly infected with messianic syndrome, a cocktail that can only take us all to hell in a hand-basket along with what are legitimately insane parties pointing us towards what amounts to a literal Armageddon. Not such wonderful people to have underwriting policies in relation to corporate interests on a geopolitical scale.

    Does any of it make sense from a rational perspective? No. But then one should understand these are not rational people. None of them.

  73. Jim says:
    @Maj. Kong

    2000 BC seems way too early for the OT. The Philistines were Sea Peoples so we are talking end of second millenium and beginning of first millenium.

  74. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    congress may see its likeness most well represented next time a carnival comes around, even a cheapened lower rate “house of mirrors” would suffice, as long as distorted reflection & gravity defying ramps are familiar tricks to patrons,employees & upper management types of the likes from most walks of life not dependent upon bent light or unfunny kloownz, bored to tears & so truly sad if correct , ITS REALLY ALL ABOUT COLD FUSION & the only bomb involved is the implodeing capitalist time BOMB,,,! TAX POLLUTION at the source,,, game over

  75. jack says:

    It would be better for the rest of the world if the entire middle east was nuked, except for Israel. The rest of these worthless countries produce absolutely nothing but violent terrorism.

    Netanyahu who was from Pennsylvania is much more American than Obama has ever been. Netanyahu loves America and Israel and cares deeply for the security of both. Meanwhile, our real enemy, the Muslim occupier of the white house, only cares about flooding our country with millions more third worlders.

    The antisemites on this site should put their energy toward opposing the true enemy of Americans, the monkey in the white house.

  76. Palladino says:
    @Maj. Kong

    Hamas and Hezbollah are but small spurs of the greater Umma that unequivocally seeks the submission, dhimmitude or destruction of all unbelievers via demographic jihad and violence. The historic and genocidal record of Islam is crystal clear, from the 8th century to today.

    Instead of condemning the nature of this relationship and unilaterally blaming the Israelis for it, shouldn’t we be asking why the U.S. position against a determined civilizational enemy is so ill-defined and weak? Or is that threat only a hyped Israeli fairy tale?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  77. Ace says:
    @Willem Hendrik

    The Iranians strike me as being led by people who exhibit a unique blend of malevolence, arrogance, bizarre beliefs, hostility to infidels, indifference to diplomatic norms, and a willingness to use terror. They also have a great deal of oil money.

    No one should take a relaxed view toward these people getting their hands on nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Israel’s rhetoric about Iran is pretty strident as well. For a while, not a day went by without Bibi threatening to attack Iran. Israel’s six million are going to attack Iran’s 60 million. Israel is, as always, the nightmare in the ME, not the Islamic states. Only the US has attacked more Islamic states than Israel, but the US sets such a high bar here.

    Israel should go away, go back where they came from as whatshername suggested (and lived to regret it!) I am sick of the corruption of US politics by Israel and the Jews and I am not alone. There are millions of us seeking to unlock the Congress and this country from the vise grip of Jewish capital.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Davey Wavey you have expressed my feelings right on. If one studies history you will find that it was powerful Jews that brought about World War One. It was powerful Zionist Jews that declared war on Germany first, who brought about World War Two. Now Powerful Zionist Jews are working overtime trying to ignight World War Three. The purpose of 911 was to get this war started, and it accomplished its goal. Iran and Afghanistan are in ruins. The middle east is in chaos. Terrorism is rising exponentially as the US bombs more and more Arab homes and cities. The great Zionist/Illuminati plan is coming to fruition as spelled out in “The Protocols of the elders of Zion”.
    For those of us who know what is going on, this world is truly sicking. The American public just spent 300,000,000 dollars (the first day) for there own political brain washing with American Sniper. We have become the supreme terrorist nation on Earth! No other country has Military bases in almost every other country, more then 700. We are already bankrupt financially and morally, but the Zionists know a good thing, we are there slaves, we get to pay for there wars. The whole world will reap the rewards. As Einstein said: “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” Enjoy America.

  80. This tired old crap we have heard everything this puke has to say,ask not what we can do for bennie-the-rat but what has Isreal ever done for us!

  81. @Palladino

    Or is that threat only a hyped Israeli fairy tale?

    I wouldn’t use “fairy tale;” “damnable lie” is more descriptive.
    But otherwise, Yes.
    @ jack —

    Netanyahu who was from Pennsylvania

    Netanyahu is not from Pennsylvania, he was born in Tel Aviv. His father, who was born in Eastern Europe, spent the years pre-WWII to post-WWII in USA where he was right-hand man to Vladimir Jabotinsky, terror-master of the zionist project.

    @ ace —

    The Iranians strike me as being led by people who exhibit a unique blend of malevolence, arrogance, bizarre beliefs, hostility to infidels, indifference to diplomatic norms, and a willingness to use terror. They also have a great deal of oil money.

    Sounds like you get your information from outhouse graffiti at remote truck-stops.
    Or maybe MFA’s hasbara central, which purveys pretty much the same detritus as found in your average outhouse.

    Why not read what the head “malevolent, arrogant, bizarre …, hostile, anti-diplomatic terrorista” actually says?

    One element in your diatribe cannot be allowed to go without specific challenge:
    It was touched on in an earlier Unz forum article:
    Zoroastrianism predates the reduction-to-writing of Hebrew scripture.

    It may be possible to argue that Persians under Cyrus, who followed Zoroastrianism, provided to Yehud the freedom to compile their scriptures.

    The ‘creed’ of Zoroaster is summed up simply:
    Good thoughts
    Good words
    Good deeds.

    Zoroastrianism is still at the heart of the “malevolent, bizarre, hostile” Iranian culture. Iran’s major religion-secular holiday is Now Rooz, which occurs at the beginning of Spring. Now Rooz sweeps away the sorrows and the joys of the old year and prepares for a new year of hope and growth.

    In Shiraz, one of Iran’s many beautiful cities, the Iranian people “celebrate poets higher than warriors.” Iranian people gather after work to read the works of Iran’s poets. Rumi is among my favorites —


    This being human is a guest house.
    Every morning a new arrival.

    A joy, a depression, a meanness,
    some momentary awareness comes
    as an unexpected visitor.

    Welcome and entertain them all!
    Even if they are a crowd of sorrows,
    who violently sweep your house
    empty of its furniture,
    still, treat each guest honorably.
    He may be clearing you out
    for some new delight.

    The dark thought, the shame, the malice.
    meet them at the door laughing and invite them in.

    Be grateful for whatever comes.
    because each has been sent
    as a guide from beyond.

    — Jelaluddin Rumi,
    translation by Coleman Barks

    As Bibi has told us before and will doubtless tell us again, the major celebratory events of zionist secular Jews are Passover and Purim.

    Passover celebrates the slaughter of Egyptian children, Egyptian leaders, and, after acquiring Egyptian treasure, the escape of Jews from the land of Egypt which had afforded them sanctuary and prosperity for between 200 and 480 years.

    Purim celebrates the slaughter of Haman, a minister to the Persian king, his ten sons, and 75,000 Persian civilians, at the hands of Esther, who, under the direction of her cousin/uncle, Mordechai, who was a spy, prostituted herself in order to worm her way into the king’s bed, throne and treasury.

    No one should take a relaxed view toward [the fact that] these people [have in] their hands nuclear weapons and ICBMs

  82. @eah

    The American people’s primary concern is that despite their denials Israel is developing nuclear weapons. I know for a fact they are (everyone has specific intelligence about that); and of course nuclear blackmale on the part of Israel is possible. And given Israel’s (often hyperbolic to the point of being absurd) rhetoric about Iran, one can understand Iran’s concern — is a nuclear-armed Israel “good for Americans”? Back at’cha.

  83. @International Jew

    A Nuclear POWERED Iran could provide more cheap oil for the world. Oh ya, that’s a bad thing now.

  84. @International Jew

    Israel’s claim that Iran “is gonna nuke Israel any minute” has been chirped for 30yrs. Iran hasn’t invaded anyone in 200yrs. Israel bombed somebody this week. Israel has 200-300 nukes. Iran has none. Iran is in compliance with IAEA regulations as prescribed by the NNPT. Israel is the only country in the ME that HAS NOT signed the NNPT. Who’s the bad guy here again? People should understand Israel is a pariah.

  85. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Show me a Christian Adelson or Saban.

    I’ll show you two:

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