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Many journalists and op-ed pundits have been observing how the United States has become two nations that are seemingly divided along a red-blue line, each side believing in “facts” that are irreconcilable with those “facts” believed to be true by the other side. Some are even suggesting that the United States is on the verge of what would be a new civil war. To be sure, each morning it is possible to open Facebook, which is, of course, a managed site that features innuendo, opinion plus outright lies, and immediately see wide divergences in analysis of events that took place the night before. This is particularly true regarding the long running debate over the genesis of the coronavirus and the methods that are being used to combat it.

On one side in the pandemic crisis debate are all those who, often for ideological reasons, reject government telling people what they should or must do. On the other side is establishment medical thinking and those government officials who believe that the state has an obligation to intervene in what is undeniably a health crisis. The “truth,” if it actually exists, might well recognize that the virus is dangerous and should be treated seriously while also taking steps to minimize the collateral damage in those measures that are being taken to tame it. And, of course, both sides are talking past each other, frequently resorting to ridicule and doling out punishments to make their points. Humiliating a store clerk because she is wearing a mask or simulating a sneeze in the face of someone who is not doing so to express one’s contempt are hardly conversation starters.

Likewise, the “black lives matter” generated protests have not surprisingly also produced strong responses that have gone far beyond the whys or wherefores involving the killing of one man in police custody. Much of the heat is generated by elusive collateral issues that remain stubbornly subject to individual interpretation like “white supremacy” and “systemic racism.” Most Americans caught in the middle of the verbal onslaughts probably would agree that the militarization of police forces in the U.S. since 9/11 has not exactly worked out well in terms of making policing community responsive. But rampaging crowds of looters and provocateurs seemingly dedicated to destruction of both public and private property suggest that the countervailing arguments have gone far beyond the point where anything sensible might come out on the other end.

One is reminded of the Japanese book and movie Rashomon. The story was written by Akutagawa Ryunosuke in 1922 and the film, directed by Akira Kurosawa, followed in 1950. The tale, set in 8th Century feudal Japan, involved a rape and a murder with each of the four principal characters providing his and her own version of what had occurred. The murdered samurai speaks through a Shinto psychic, while a bandit-witness in the forest, a traveling monk, and the samurai’s wife, who was the rape victim, all provide alternative versions of what had taken place. The story reveals how all of the contradictory testimony was fundamentally dishonest, in that each participant was interpreting events to support his or her self-interest in the outcome of the tragedy.

The movie is now considered to be one of the greatest films ever made and the story line, dubbed the “Rashomon effect,” has been used to described situations in which eye witnesses to an event provide completely contradictory versions of what took place. One might suggest that the Rashomon effect is currently working overtime in the United States. The mainstream “progressive” media sees “peaceful demonstrators” in places like Portland or Seattle because that fits their agenda of anti-Trumpism, while others see mostly burning buildings and cars as well as injured policemen because they are internally wired to condemn the disorder. Particularly in a stress situation, most people will see what they want to see.

Similarly, COVID-19 is a “hoax” because to some the government is inappropriately and “unconstitutionally” getting involved while others are prepared to lock themselves in the basement for three months because they believe the dire warnings they are receiving by way of the media must be true. No one is necessarily lying in an attempt to deceive because those expressing their views actually are convinced by what they are apparently seeing and hearing.

With the virus raging and blm continues to grow, the federal government has been playing its own little Rashomon game in the country’s foreign policy. Some observers, like myself, see an escalating Rashomon-esque global war of aggression, while the key players in Washington claim to see only threats to American hegemony and the liberal democratic order that the U.S. claims to support. In the Middle East, for example, the U.S. and Israel have been edging towards war with Iran and Syria, possibly suggesting that the recent bombing in Beirut might have been a “plausibly denied” Israeli preemptive strike against Hezbollah. Israel has in fact been the aggressor, having instigated an increasing number of incidents with Hezbollah along the Lebanese border while Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the Pentagon’s leaders look benignly on and praise Israeli restraint. But other “Rashomon effect” witnesses to what is taking place see all the aggression coming from Jerusalem and Washington. Neither side can see any merit in what the other is saying.

China is largely replacing Russia as the most favored “threat” for both the Democratic and Republican parties. Beijing has already been accused of unleashing the coronavirus on the United States while also preparing to interfere in the upcoming November national elections, even though evidence to back up either claim has been lacking. This fearmongering has led the U.S. to dispatch warships, including two aircraft carrier strike groups, to the South China Sea to intercede in a maritime dispute China is having with its neighbors, several of whom are allied to the United States. China has declared a two-hundred-mile economic zone off its coasts and also off some disputed islands which Washington has declared “illegal,” in part because it restricts “freedom of the seas.” The contested area, which is over 7,000 miles from North America, has been the site of massive U.S. Navy exercises in recent weeks. The increase in military activity has the potential to turn nasty if China opts to contest the U.S. presence. Some congressmen are already predicting that there will be an armed conflict of some kind within the next three to six months.

So, China sees itself has a regional power that is engaging in economic expansion in competition with countries like the United States while the U.S. sees an increasing threat. Both are looking at the same data and drawing conclusions that are nevertheless diametrically opposed, just like Rashomon. And both are talking past each other. To be sure China is no “gentle giant.” It is a totalitarian state with the world’s largest population and what might currently be the largest economy. It has recently reneged on agreements to maintain Hong Kong as an autonomous region, which has invited international opprobrium. The head of the FBI Christopher Wray has described Beijing as the “greatest long term threat” to the future of the United States, though he is probably referring to the economic and political challenges rather than its military. China in return is out to supplant the United States as the world’s superpower and has done so by largely peaceful means, expanding its commercial ties to and investments in resource rich regions of the third world, locking in the raw materials that it will rely on to grow even more economically powerful.

Mike Pompeo is uncomfortable with that, saying last month that “We must admit a hard truth that should guide us in the years and decades to come: that if we want to have a free 21st century, and not the Chinese century of which Xi Jinping dreams, the old paradigm of blind engagement with China simply won’t get it done. We must not continue it and we must not return to it.” So it’s all about a “free 21st century,” but in Rashomon fashion China wants the freedom to continue to expand economically that Washington sees as a potential threat to “political” freedom and, more generally speaking, to its own dominance. Both countries have their own vision of what they are “seeing” and neither one is listening.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected].

 
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  1. Americans are not informed that much of this conflict with China centers on the Ryukyu island chain that extends from mainland Japan to Taiwan. The Potsdam Declaration of 1945, which set out the Allied Powers’ terms for Japan’s surrender, deprived Japan of all its overseas territories. Taiwan was a Japanese territory that was freed after World War II. The nearby Ryukyu Islands that include the large island of Okinawa were also a territory the Japanese empire had invaded in 1872 and imposed its language and culture. One-third of Okinawa’s population was killed during the American invasion in 1945, yet it was not freed. The Treaty of San Francisco in 1951 granted these islands to the United States so the US military could seize land to build a massive military base complex that displaced 250,000 Okinawans; almost half the population. Objections to the large US military presence continues to grow as Okinawans refuse to accept a perpetual occupation by foreign troops. Meanwhile, Japan and the United States demand that Chinese ships stay clear of “their” island chain.

  2. mijj says:

    the USA is a mass murdering, thieving, interfering and subverting Mafia state. We can only hope its demise is helped along as quickly as possible, for the world’s sake.

    NB. poverty, ill health and personal insecurity are the essential forces of tyranny in a nation. The USA is the most tyrannical on earth.

    • Troll: Chris Mallory
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    , @GMC
    , @Moi
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  3. Would that cooler heads prevailed, understanding the imperative of reaching focal points that transcend the Nash Equilibrium.

    In lieu of it, the best one can do is find solace within.

  4. Thank you, Philip.

    On the other side is establishment medical thinking and those government officials who believe that the state has an obligation to intervene in what is undeniably a health crisis.

    I government can provide guidelines and produce medication to battle illnesses, but it can’t make them mandatory. Especially governments that allowed, Softenon, DDT, Asbestos, Tabacco, GMO, Agent Orange, and what not, to be unleashed on the masses.

    • Replies: @sally
  5. anon[370] • Disclaimer says:

    Taiwan was a Japanese territory that was freed after World War II.

    Taiwan was and is a fascinating land with its own history, customs, and indigenous population. Taiwan has been temporarily occupied by various powers for various periods. The Dutch, the Spanish, the Qing, and the Kingdom of Middag all ruled parts of Taiwan at various times. The Japanese colonized it (and did an amazingly good job of developing its technology) for a short time.

    Japan and the United States demand that Chinese ships stay clear of “their” island chain.

    I think that might be a bit unfair. The USA and Japan do not claim any intrusive hegemony; they want the island chain to be part of the world community, with due respect for international law. But Beijing only pretends to believe in international law when such pretended belief suits Beijing’s temporary whims.

    My understanding is that Japan, the USA, and Taiwan all demand that the Communists respect international law regarding freedom of navigation. Unfortunately, the Communists sniggeringly defy international law by militarizing artificial islands and undertaking other provocations.

    • LOL: TimeTraveller
    • Troll: Supply and Demand
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    , @frankie p
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  6. @Carlton Meyer

    Well, that sure was informative. 50,000 potential hostages and 4000 dead combat marines. I suppose Okinawa is a millstone
    that will be tied to the US Navy’s neck should tensions in the Taiwan strait move beyond saber- rattling.

    P.S. – l presume the photo at the end is you. You are a leatherneck?

  7. geokat62 says:

    Mike Pompeo is uncomfortable with that, saying last month that “We must admit a hard truth that should guide us in the years and decades to come: that if we want to have a free 21st century, and not the Chinese century of which Xi Jinping dreams, the old paradigm of blind engagement with China simply won’t get it done. We must not continue it and we must not return to it.” So it’s all about a “free 21st century,” but in Rashomon fashion China wants the freedom to continue to expand economically that Washington sees as a potential threat to “political” freedom and, more generally speaking, to its own dominance. Both countries have their own vision of what they are “seeing” and neither one is listening.

    A hypothetical alternative ending to an article about the most pressing issue facing the American people written by the Chairman of the newly formed National Justice Party (h/o to Robert Dolan):

    Mike Enoch is uncomfortable with that, saying last month that “We must admit a hard truth that should guide us in the years and decades to come: that if we want to have a free 21st century, and not the Jewish Century of which Yuri Slezkine writes, the old paradigm of blind subservience to Israel simply won’t get it done. We must not continue it and we must not return to it.” So it’s all about a “free 21st century,” but in true chutzpah fashion Israel wants the freedom to continue to expand its political influence that Washington refuses to see as a potential threat to its “political” freedom and, more generally speaking, to its own dominance. Both countries have a similar vision of what they are “seeing” and neither one is disagreeing.

    NATIONAL JUSTICE PARTY FOUNDING SPEECH (AUGUST 15, 2020):


    National Justice Party, About Us:

    On August 15th, 2020, The National Justice Party was founded before a gathering of over 200 supporters.

    The National Justice Party is an organization that will advocate for White civil rights, the working and middle class, and the traditional family against our corrupt and illegitimate institutions. The unelected oligarchy that controls government, media, finance and industry in the United States has declared White Americans to be second class citizens. Whites are placed at the very bottom of the racial preference scale for employment and education. The mainstream media broadcasts an unending torrent of degenerate, anti-White propaganda across the internet and TV screens. The police and courts turn a blind eye to violence against Whites in the streets. This situation is intolerable and must be answered.

    We will use our constitutional rights to challenge the consensus view among wealthy elites, politicians and intellectuals that White people are not a legitimate group and are not deserving of advocacy. We refuse to allow the very real issues affecting our people to be ignored and trivialized. Our aim is political self-determination for White Americans and the restoration of the European values upon which this country was founded.

    The NJP Founding Council,

    Mike Peinovich, Chairman
    Joseph Jordan
    Michael McKevitt
    Tony Hovater
    Gregory Conte
    Warren Balogh
    Alan Balogh

    https://nationaljusticeparty.com/about-us/

    The National Justice Party’s platform is not yet available for public release, but a tentative version was released to attendees of their founding speech:

    –Extend the protections of the Civil Rights Act to the white majority.

    –Officially declare America a European majority state, as the Founders intended.

    –Let people pray in public, protect the right to bear arms, and guarantee the right to free expression — all proud aspects of the American tradition to be upheld against all tyranny, whether private or public.

    –A complete end to immigration of all kinds as well as full enforcement of existing laws against those here illegally.

    –An end to usury.

    –Restoration of the right to free association, including in respects to race and sexual “preference.”

    –A new economic system where those who work and contribute to society can live with dignity, as well as the embrace of automation to shorten the work week, lower the retirement age and increase pensions.

    –A culture of respect for motherhood, the family and a complete ban on unnatural sexual practices being taught in schools.

    –No more war or foreign entanglements, especially not in the service of foreign interests like Israel.

    –Put the banks, big business, mass media, universities and other institutions back in the hands of the nation to serve their fatherland first, with an affirmative action program that caps Jewish representation at their population number of 2% so their power can be checked by public accountability.

    https://national-justice.com/national-justice-party-inauguration-what-i-saw

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Anonymous
  8. “With the virus raging…”

    You lost me with “With the virus raging…”. There is NO virus raging at this moment, the virus cases are a total fraud because the testing is a total fraud. There is no Covid-19 molecule killing people, it is a CIA-mockingbird MSM-BillGates-Dr. Fauci-Federal Reserve generated hoax of Biblical proportions.

    The NFL tested the players, 77 positive. They sent these positive tested players to the hospital and tested again, zero were positive. How can that be? Simple, everything is a lie, the testing is a stage managed hoax meant to instill fear into the public and shut everything down.

    The President of Tanzania knew the WHO was a fraud, he sent in blind samples not tested on anything, he took swabs of a bat, a paw paw fruit, used motor oil and many more things and ALL came back positive for the covids.

    On Mar 21, 2001 the Secretary of State Pompeo said it was an exercise gone live. The President of the Saint Louis Federal Reserve James Bullard said Covid is fiction and this is a planned shutdown.

    Nurses sent in swabs on nothing, and they were positive. Florida had 100% positive rate and got busted by the local FOX News network.

    What does this all tell us? That there is no pandemic and no virus, it is all fake.

    People who died in car accidents, heart attacks, gun shot wounds, pneumonia, snake bites were ALL put down as COVID-19 so the hospital could collect 13,000 a head. That is outright criminal fraud.

    They are lying about everything. They say the hospitals are overflowing – but they are not, the hospitals are empty, nurses are being laid off in record numbers. People went in with cameras and recorded empty hospitals all over the world. The media flat out lies about hospital patients. There is no pandemic, and this society has completely lost it acting on this staged hoax as real.

    Everything on the news is totally fake. When Beirut got nuked what did the media say, oh that was fertilizer. The media is party to heinous crimes of governments who are waging all out war on us.

    The United States Government is the most anti-American institution on the face of the earth. What they are doing is a million times worse than any radical terrorist, they are destroying our precious freedom over a damn hoax and they are bankrupting the nation in the tune of trillions to bail out the tens of millions of workers they caused by staging this coronahoax.

  9. China “reneged”? I see. The repeated failure of the Hong Kong government to pass its own security laws – an obligation it has not fulfilled since 1997 – had nothing to do with it. The colour revolution openly instigated by American stooges who attacked policemen and bystanders and destroyed property had nothing to do with it either. This must be another Rashomon that we in the rest of the world are seeing but the author of this article doesn’t.

    • Agree: Realist, Moi
  10. America still believes it can create its own reality, pace Karl Rove
    It can’t.

  11. AnonCN says:

    To be sure China is no “gentle giant.” It is a totalitarian state with the world’s largest population and what might currently be the largest economy.
    ————totalitarian state ? BS brainwashing US propaganda repeating itself again.

    It has recently reneged on agreements to maintain Hong Kong as an autonomous region, which has invited international opprobrium.
    ————international powers shamelessly invited this ‘renege’ as they tried to deny the basic of the ‘one country, two system’ thing for HK, that is ‘one country’.

    The head of the FBI Christopher Wray has described Beijing as the “greatest long term threat” to the future of the United States, though he is probably referring to the economic and political challenges rather than its military.
    ————yeah, probably, if US is not going to start a major war.

    China in return is out to supplant the United States as the world’s superpower and has done so by largely peaceful means, expanding its commercial ties to and investments in resource rich regions of the third world, locking in the raw materials that it will rely on to grow even more economically powerful.
    ————yeah, probably. Nations want to trade with each other, so what.

    The title is Rashomon American Style, why don’t you stick to your topic and make your article more worthy reading? Do you know that you just can’t help yourself being bias against China once your content involves China?

    • Agree: Moi
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  12. People are definitely lying, and deaths are definitely exagerated, and cases are definitely exagerated. This has been proven. I will not compromise on that these individuals in the media and the medical community and governments are definitely lying. It is an absolute undeniable fact. Bill Gates should just stick to his turf in trying to rid the world of computer viruses, if he even knows anything about computers. Who knows. Maybe he doesn’t so he decided to transition to human viruses in order to learn about computer viruses.

    Global Research has hundreds of articles by world reknowned viroligists, immunologists, and epidemiologists proving that this is nazi junk science plandemic scamdemic. Covid=Everyone is the enemy. The medical community is full of psychopaths. It would not be a stretch to say that hospitals and clinics in America are the equivalent of CIA black op sites when it suits their needs to be.

    I strongly suspect that Iranian government officials opposed to the new China deal were extrajudicially murdered. They had an extremely high percentage of government officials that died from it. I just find the numbers too high to be believed.

    • Agree: Thim
  13. padre says:

    Funny, how author cites Rashomon, but in the same time he is cock sure, that China is “totalitarian state”!Screw Rashomon, when you’re right, you’re right!

    • LOL: Iris
  14. gotmituns says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Yep, I was based there at Camp Hansen (3rd Marine division) in the 60s. The Okinawans didn’t seem to mind us too much then. But, I guess we’ve outstayed our welcome.

  15. Z-man says:

    I don’t think I ever watched the entire film ‘Rashomon’, the fact that it was in Japanese might have something to do with that but I did like and watch ‘Seven Samurai’ (and it’s American remake ‘The Magnificent Seven’). Now, the older I get the less patience I have to watching foreign language films. It might be a loss but …so what.
    In any event a good take on the current situation even if you omit the 500 pound gorilla in the room. The almost total control of the MSM and government by the ‘you know who‘. But as Unz puts it at the end of his accompanying article, discretion is the better part of valor.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  16. Steven80 says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Ruykuy islands are part of Japan since the 1609, and before that they were paying tribute to the Ashikaga shogunate since at least the 14-hundreds. The decision that the islands are not part of Japan was concocted by the US as they needed for military needs – from there they can threaten both Russia and China. The basis for US claim is military, not based on historical facts.

    On the other hand, the Japanese claims for the Kuril islands are rooted in the fact that Japan calims to protect the indegenous population there – the Ainu. Russians reject that claim stating there is no Japanese character that describes the islands, meaning Japanese have no hisctory there and no legitimate claims. The basis for the Japanese claim is as bogus as the US for the Ruykuy.

    But then, it is all Rashomons in politics…

    • Replies: @utu
  17. as a white male, i am rooting for china…china never made me a 2nd class citizen under the law, but america did do that…go for it, china…nuke DC!

    • Thanks: TimeTraveller
  18. “On one side in the pandemic crisis debate are all those who, often for ideological reasons, reject government telling people what they should or must do. On the other side is establishment medical thinking and those government officials who believe that the state has an obligation to intervene in what is undeniably a health crisis. ‘

    let’s just call this what it was . . .

    the White House got snookered.

    I have bit my tongue on most of this pandemic issue. but i m going to come back to my original thoughts on this. considering the death toll, there very little reason to take such as drastic action as the course we took. I won’t bemoan the choices we did not take –

    But I would disagree that but the truth is somewhere in the middle.

    ———————————-

    Thu fr Chin seems to have openly violated to norms.

    1. violation of intellectual property and they re not lone in that. It’s interesting to w;; the high tech firms twist in this as I recall their response to linux — ha — ll of sudden “open source” is not s quint or s democratic s it used to be.

    2. UNCLOS and territorial boundaries.

    and no one is addressing the question of how to respond to the Philippine question and out security agreements.

    ———————————————-

    These are the kinds of real world binds one gets into when it’s just political rhetoric to win votes.

    In the way that Russia reconciliation is flat in the water — political ploy damaged future and important policy consideration.

    Truth the executive filed to capitalize on imprint victories that could have changed the course of the country. Instead despite having the means and the support — squandered opportunities based on truth.

    if you just settle for making your opponents look bad as political victories — then you might have an empty chamber to deal with important issues.

  19. China is no “gentle giant.” It is a totalitarian state

    Seriously? To my knowledge there is but one extant totalitarian state and it is characterized by leaders with the sole power to:
    * Declare war. Frequently.
    * Issue 300,000 national security letters (administrative subpoenas with gag orders that enjoin recipients from ever divulging they’ve been served);
    * Control information at all times under his National Security and Emergency Preparedness Communications Functions.
    * Torture, kidnap and kill anyone, anywhere, at will.
    * Secretly ban 50,000 citizens from flying–and refusing to explain why.
    * Imprison 2,000,000 citizens without trial.
    * Execute 1,000 citizens each year prior to arrest.
    * Kill 1,000 foreign civilians every day since 1951
    * Massacre its own men, women and children for their beliefs
    * Assassinate its own citizens abroad, for their beliefs.

  20. Anonymous[265] • Disclaimer says:

    Likewise, the “black lives matter” generated protests have not surprisingly also produced strong responses that have gone far beyond the whys or wherefores involving the killing of one man in police custody.

    Except that he wasn’t killed.

    To be sure China is no “gentle giant.” It is a totalitarian state with the world’s largest population and what might currently be the largest economy. It has recently reneged on agreements to maintain Hong Kong as an autonomous region, which has invited international opprobrium.

    The “agreement” probably didn’t include allowing foreign powers to expand their Colour Revolution franchise into Hong Kong.

    • Agree: Realist
  21. utu says:
    @Steven80

    And Russian claim to Kuril Islands is that Japan’s claim is not legitimate, right? The USSR after WWII behaved like a hyena who took and kept everything it could put her greedy paws on.

    • Agree: Steven80
    • Replies: @Steven80
    , @Getaclue
  22. @Yukon Jack

    They are lying about everything. They say the hospitals are overflowing – but they are not, the hospitals are empty, nurses are being laid off in record numbers. People went in with cameras and recorded empty hospitals all over the world. The media flat out lies about hospital patients. There is no pandemic, and this society has completely lost it acting on this staged hoax as real.

    The evidence is everywhere if you care to look:

    • Replies: @Yukon Jack
  23. geokat62 says:

    Rick Wiles dropping truth bombs for his religious followers. Phil Giraldi dropping truth bombs for his secular followers. And Handsome Truth* and the GDL dropping truth bombs for those that are a little rough around the edges…

    https://t.me/GDL4LIFE/185

    *h/o to Chuck Orloski for introducing me to HT.

  24. bj0311 says:

    The so-called “Rashomon effect” is four people seeing the same event and interpreting it subjectively Mr. Giraldi. There are are some of us who realize that perception is not necessarily reality, so we check and recheck in an effort to come to a reasonably objective view–insofar as a human can be objective. I knew watching the twin towers coming down–at the moment they did–that something was amiss–and research has proven me right, something was not right. Just like I knew in March when the “flu” madness began that something wasn’t right. The list goes on.

    When you have a government, like that of the US, which exhibits all the traits of a mentally unhinged individual–psychotic behavior, pathological lying, projection, etc. then everything that government says or does is subject to question. You are trying to “level” the conversation making all sides equal and they are not–and that assertion does not come from a subjective analysis. The majority of people in the US have been taught and encouraged to process everything emotionally not rationally. The difference between the sides is the left is a loose collection of mentally ill individuals incapable of rational thought, while those on the right are more balanced and able to tame their initial emotional reaction to come to a rational conclusion based on reasonable objectivity. There is no “Rashomon effect”.

  25. Realist says:
    @propagandist hacker

    as a white male, i am rooting for china…china never made me a 2nd class citizen under the law, but america did do that

    I agree…but I do not promote or condone nuking DC. But if all the large cities New York, Chicago , Los Angeles, Houston, Portland, Seattle and other large shitlib strongholds were to disappear…this country would be a hell of a lot better.

    • Replies: @sally
  26. Realist says:

    To be sure China is no “gentle giant.” It is a totalitarian state with the world’s largest population and what might currently be the largest economy.

    To be sure the US is no “gentle giant.” It is a totalitarian state with the world’s dumbest population and what might currently be the most corrupt economy.

    FIFY

    • Agree: dogbumbreath
  27. Some are lying. Tony Fauci, the dean of medical grifters, the pooh-bah MD’s at Hopkins, the media which has run dozens of demonstrably fake “news” reports hyping “Cofraud19 “. All the politicians who have the resources but lack the incentive to debunk the plandemic. These groups, Mr. Giraldi, are all necessarily lying. Don’t give them an out. They should pay.

    • Replies: @anon
  28. geokat62 says:

    Did I mention that Handsome Truth and the GDL may be a little rough around the edges?

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  29. Steven80 says:
    @utu

    Yes, It is not legitimate – Russia expanded in their far east because of sable furs there and the russians subjugated the locals quite brutaly in many cases – for example expelling daurs to china where thousands drowned in Amur river, killing many evenk tribes, exterminating koryak settlements that resist… Even the american aleut islands were “cleansed” by the russians as locals resisted the racketeering, that was before the Alaska sale.
    Sakhalin and the Kuril islands had the same fate, initially the russian fleet destroyed and burned the japanese trading posts there in the 17-hundreds, but the locals were neither russian nor japanese.

    My point was great powers alwys distort the truth – you can see that now with the south china sea debate , where the island locals were never chinese, but it is convenient for China to distort the reality and claim they are chinese. Of course, the US does the same and their version is even more ridiculous, but who cares, it is all a show for the media/masses…

  30. Rich says:
    @mijj

    Although I’ve searched the historical record, I can find no state that hasn’t been run by “murdering, thieving, interfering, and subverting ” Mafiosi. If you know where the Utopian state that isn’t run by psychopaths is located, I’d like to visit it before I die.

    • Agree: Fred777
  31. @geokat62

    geokat62 wrote: “*h/o to Chuck Orloski for introducing me to HT.”

    You’re welcome, George!

    Minutes after Midnight I looked at Phil’s article title & focus, the great Japanese film “Roshomon.” Was automatically intrigued.

    Around 1989, the University of Scranton had this film in its library and I watched it; learned something about eyewitness perception of US-based deadly events and how differences of witness opinion can both help & distract Federal investigations, overseen by the D.O.J. and it’s stilted agenda.

    You and others assembled here remember July 17, 1996, and the TWA 800 explosion after having taken off from NYC’s JFK airport.

    The FBI interviewed 278 local witnesses who testified to having observed a streak of light, much like a missile, 💥head for the innocent passengers of TWA 800. Please refer to the great Ron Unz article, linked below?

    The TWA 800 serial murder was a satanic prelude, test case, to the successful False Flag attack of 9/11. What’s next? 😈

    Meanwhile, am waiting for the findings as the FBI investigates the Beirut port explosion. The Neo-Roshomon Syndrome is become S.O.P. for Supremacist Jews who relish in deception as to what the human eye really sees.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-destruction-of-twa-flight-800/

    Selah, Handsome Truth be told.

    • Thanks: geokat62
    • Replies: @Donald A Thomson
  32. Getaclue says:
    @utu

    So many lovers of Communism on UNZ — it’s remarkable. If UNZ was under the ChiComs and tried to run this Freedom of Speech oriented site that questions often the “official” Government line on things — he wouldn’t just be booted off Facebook — he’d have already been in a Van taken for a trip from which he would never be seen again — ChiCom style — and many of the Commenters here would have taken that ride also — I find the complete ignorance, or flat out lies, as to how the ChiComs, and all Communist Societies, function that I see displayed here nearly daily appalling. It’s hard to believe any educated person can believe such total garbage — some are clearly propagandists for China/ChiComs 0thers just idiots I surmise as I have followed their comments over the last year or more.

    There is often argument as to how the USA is “worse” than China. One of the major reasons the USA has fallen so badly is the same NWO “Elites” behind creating “Modern” China (Rockefeller and his lackeys) have been busy destroying the USA for multiple decades, getting it into endless wars, and generally doing everything possible to destroy it — the “people” of the USA long ago lost nearly all say in what goes on here — the replacement of the population by Mass 3rd World immigration wasn’t put up for a National Vote that I recall? That might be some indication that the people in the USA don’t now and haven’t in a very long time had any real control over what “their” Government does or doesn’t do. The USA is rapidly becoming a mirror of the ChiCom reality with the roll out of the planned Medical Martial Law Agenda we are now seeing played out in real time daily — The future of the USA? With an overlay of crony Capitalism — it will soon have the worst of both systems for the Peons here to live under and probably a hot WW3 with the ChiComs at some point soon after whatever NWO plague is released on us next….The USA will be a smoldering ruin of a 3rd World country within the current life time of those currently living in it. No doubt.

    Wall Street has always been the funder/developer/nurturer of Communism — Anthony Sutton proved that in his writings and books — and David Rockefeller is responsible for “Modern” China — without him nothing that happened with Nixon or the offshoring of the USA Manufacturing base etc. would have happened — his fingerprints are all over it (although often partially hidden….) — the Chinese system is the “Model” for the NWO world/reality the Banksters/”Elites” want hoisted on us — and with the roll out of Medical Martial Law (another “special” of David Rockefeller and his lackeys–Gates et al) that we are experiencing now with the CVirus, as the method of roll out, the planned goal of the NWO “Elite”/Creeps is to place the USA, and the world, into the same position as the Peons in China — with the same rights under a “social credit score” type system — anyone who thinks any of this induced hysteria as to the Cold Virus the ChiComs spread around (regardless of where it came from there is zero doubt they chose to spread it far and wide when they knew it was out in WuHan and let thousands fly out from infected areas worldwide….) is “just happening” is ignorant, an idiot, or in on it. https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-true-agenda-of-the-who-a-new-world-order-modeled-after-china/

  33. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Some observers, like myself, see an escalating Rashomon-esque global war of aggression, while the key players in Washington claim to see only threats to American hegemony and the liberal democratic order that the U.S. claims to support. In the Middle East, for example, the U.S. and Israel have been edging towards war with Iran and Syria, possibly suggesting that the recent bombing in Beirut might have been a “plausibly denied” Israeli preemptive strike against Hezbollah.

    When one starts out with the premise that they are historically “chosen” by blood or by culture, and thus entitled to lord over inferiors eternally — as the Zionists do — one automatically loses the battle of public opinion. This is why Zionists need, and have attained, control of the political class, the propaganda class (MSM) and academia, for if the establishment adopts the “chosen” premise (and Jewry is the only identity group that is sacred in libconned-neoconned America) then no one that matters will seriously question anything the Zionists do.

    Of course, just like in the Zionist occupied Soviet Union ( https://rense.com/general87/century.htm ) this state-engineered false consciousness can only last for so long before reality sets in.

    First, reality has set in for the Muslims, because they were and are under attack existentially by the Zionists and by the fake-narratives (lies) they and their establishment lackeys have engineered to justify the Zionist war of genocide. And as the world has seen the writing on the wall, and Zionist global ambitions, it has been forced to face reality too, and is currently in the process of standing up for itself.

    The Zionist occupied West, the US in particular, is the last to fall. And it may take some more time, but fall it will. And fall hard.

    This isn’t about the survival of the US, although the Zionist parasites have intertwined themselves so intricately, in some ways it is. But really, it’s about the survival of Zionism. And just like Communism and just like Fascism, Judeofascism is going down for the count sooner or later.

    American patriots in the tradition of the Founders better be prepared to fill the vacuum, because other contenders almost as warped and stunted as the Zionists are chomping at the bit, and they’re pissed about what the Zionists have done to them. But so are Americans — real Americans, that is.

    Zionists have always feared the End Times, which they always knew were coming, and now end times for the Zionists are upon them.

  34. Getaclue says:
    @Rich

    Today is the Feast Day of King Louis the 9th of France — he “ruled” and conducted state affairs properly you will find if you research him — he kept his self interest out of it and did everything with an eye toward answering for his actions to God when he died. He is criticized for involvement in the Crusades — but the true history is the Muslims murdered, raped, looted, kidnapped and generally terrorized the Catholic world for 400 years before the response of the Crusades finally came. Contrary to the “history” we are now taught there was a great deal of “white” slavery — under the invading Muslims throughout this history, lots of rape and forced sexual slavery — most are ignorant as to all of this as it is now endlessly lied about, all you here is the “hate white” bs, like just about everything else.

    King Louis the 9th governed France in the enlightened manner that all should govern — for the benefit of those over which he “ruled”. St. Louis the 9th, King of France, Pray for Us! We need it….

  35. GMC says:
    @mijj

    I agree but even when the domestic US falls down, the Pentagon and other Rats Will keep the wars going. They run dope, run guns, run million worth of big arms, steal oil, gaz, gold, silver, artifacts, extort the allis, own the Federal Reserve, hell the list is long. Don t expect thr NWO to fail, only the US. Thanks.

  36. Moi says:
    @mijj

    PG, who writes a lot of excellent articles, is showing his CIA biases regarding China in this piece. China is NOT a dictatorship, and it could plausible be argued it is more of democracy than the US, considering its citizen give the government a very high approval rating.

    Throughout its long history, China has hardly attacked anyone. By contrast, the thieving, murdering and mayhem in the US started from the moment the good “Pilgrims” landed at Plymouth Rock.

    • Agree: nosquat loquat, Kali
  37. @bj0311

    There is no “Roshomon Effect” when watching Mike Pompeo’s everyday deeds. Refer below? Evidence of Israeli occupation.

    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/08/24/outrage-as-pompeo-gives-convention-speech-in-jerusalem/

  38. Moi says:
    @AnonCN

    Sadly, PG was spewing some bs there. I guess you always have a bit of the cia in you even after you leave it.

  39. @dogbumbreath

    Look under every claim and you will find that the media is lying about the virus.

    500,000 attended the Sturgis motorcycle rally. How does the media report it? They are spreading the virus. They cite 15 test cases positive. Doesn’t mean a thing, the test is bs if they even did a test which I doubt. They are just making up this whole narrative trying to use fear to shut down any activity, especially large group gatherings that will expose the fraud.

    If everyone turned off the Jewmedia TV and took off their masks and went back to whatever they normally do this evil would end. THERE IS NO VIRUS!

    1000 German Doctors say COVID-19 is 100% a Scam
    https://fromrome.info/2020/08/24/1000-german-doctors-say-covid-19-is-100-a-scam/

    Nurse Speaks Out, Empty Beds, and no Coronovirus Cases in Devon Hospitals UK

    • Agree: GeneralRipper, Thim
    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
    • Troll: L.K
  40. gay troll says:

    Rashomon is an interesting meditation on human perception. Although the current situation has less to do with Rashomon and more to do with propaganda. Both red and blue teams look at each other and see propagandized nitwits. Both are correct.

    COVID 19 is interesting; the first rumblings in alt media commentary suggested it was an extremely infectious bug with a 2.5 percent fatality rate that required ventilation to survive. Since then the threat of the disease has steadily diminished in the face of experience. Yet as the people began to take it less seriously, the MSM took it more seriously. In early March I was concerned that we were about to be swamped by a killer plague from China, while the MSM downplayed and ignored the disease. Now I think the disease is only a practical threat to a small subset of the population, while the MSM insists we need to throw away our old socio economic system and replace it with a new normal in order to save lives. WTF?

    The point is that COVID 19 is actually irrelevant. The collapse of the American economy is not the consequence of COVID, it is the motivation for COVID. As long as partisans are arguing over the nature of a virus (or the nature of race relations) they will pay little attention to the fact that both parties are complicit in the financial and ethical bankruptcy of the USA. And so is Donald Trump.

    What we have are not two human perspectives on the same events. Instead, we have two manufactured perspectives on the same events. Whereas human perspectives may differ and overlap, manufactured perspectives can be designed to be mutually exclusive. Whereas human perspectives may revolve around or reveal a hidden truth; manufactured perspectives can be designed to exclude and occult the truth completely.

    Media narratives on all sides are designed to polarize and fracture public opinion. To believe that one narrative is correct and another is false is to yield to propaganda. TPTB don’t care what you actually believe; as long as you are in conflict with your fellow Americans, their work is being done.

    Wreck the vote 2020.

    • Agree: chris, nosquat loquat
    • Replies: @frontier
    , @PetrOldSack
  41. Jimmy1969 says:

    Phil: Israel has shot tens of thousands of protestors and rioters over the last ten years alone. And they have imprisoned millions of Palestinians in a kind of Warsaw Ghetto Camp in the West bank and we subsidize Israel with billions of American tax money every year and more billions of discounted weapons. More importantly, we have not shot a single rioter or looter in this country. How do you account for the discrepancy with that. How is it that Israel can get away with what they do, but our American Cites are in ruin and ANTIFA which is heavily backed by Jewish money is not called out on this hypocrisy.

  42. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomas Milton

    Many are willfully lying, deceiving.

    Intent is evil. Outcome a disaster for the many.

    • Agree: dogbumbreath
  43. Sean says:

    To be sure, each morning it is possible to open Facebook, which is, of course, a managed site that features innuendo, opinion plus outright lies, and immediately see wide divergences in analysis of events that took place the night before. This is particularly true regarding the long running debate over the genesis of the coronavirus and the methods that are being used to combat it.

    https://youtu.be/iKhgfigng_k?t=1242

    Due to the lice that jumped from dirty Poles and infested his unprecedentedly huge army, by the time Napoleon entered Moscow, typhus had reduced his troops to a fraction of their original numbers and greatly reduced the effectiveness of what remained. It was the 1918 influenza epidemic started by the Allies'[ imported Chinese labour that stopped Germany’s Stormtroop offensive from winning World War One.

    Whether Chinese culinary habits incompetence and bland refusal to listen to Dr. Ian Lipkin who was going over there regularly since the SARS outbreak of 2002 and begging them to close down their wet markets, or a US Deep State within the Deep State were the origin of COVID-19 is but one in a series of ultimately irrelevant questions. All this stuff may be part of a master plan by Xi to take over the world or purely accidental with no person or group is deciding on the aforementioned phenomena. All beside the point, which is we can see China is at a critical mass, where it is having a certain effect on the rest of the world, especially the West.

    Globalisation is devastating the national independent economies of every country but China. The economic destruction wreaked on working people combined with massive profit for the treacherous tax dodging Wall Street investment funds and Tech sector are well known. The Fentanyl manufacturers of Wuhan were making a lot of money while staying entirely within Chinese law for six years while Western governments were asking for the lucrative racked to be outlawed. Moreover, Chinese components are at the microprocessor heart of North Korea’s new ICBM

    With every year that China grows,the impact of China is becoming more deleterious. Whether Xi decides everything or no person or group is deciding on the aforementioned phenomena is beside the point. China is at a critical mass having reached the point where it is having a certain effect on the rest of the world, especially the West. Yet just as the Chinese made Fentanyl, but did not have a domestic epidemic of abusing the drug, China did a much better job of halting the spread of COVID-19 from Wuhan to the rest of China than from China to the rest of the world. The time is upon us to disengage from China, and nothing good will come from delaying.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  44. J Lee says:
    @anon

    Japan pioneered turning rocks that submerge at high tide into concrete bastions of claimable territory.
    Taiwan built the first military airfield on an island… claimed by the Philippines.
    When a civilian ship is prevented from delivering its cargo, its usually not the doing of the so called enemies of the free world, or Somali pirates but the United States and its allies enforcing unilateral sanctions. Freedom of Navigation is the right of the United States to shove warships in the face of its rivals who are branded as aggressors if they much as leave their home port.

    • Agree: nosquat loquat
  45. anon[197] • Disclaimer says:

    … is undeniably a health crisis

    I deny that it is a “health crisis”.

    It is incumbent on you to prove it is a health crisis. To do this, you will cite “evidence” from the very establishment you supposedly distrust. These include:

    * grossly distorted mortality rates based on demonstratively biased data collection
    * “tests” that test for antibodies that may or may not indicate infection by “Covid-19”
    * the whole tangled, disputable premise of “Covid-19” itself (its nature, origin, effect)

    Of course anyone who just looks outside, at the actual world – as opposed to the virtual one sustained by media of all sorts – will see that the only “crisis” extant is the dystopian authoritarian one. There isn’t any visible “health crisis” (go to a hospital and look) except for the mental health crisis created by the assumptions you parrot.

    People who work for the CIA, currently or formerly, should understand that “framing the narrative” is how the “information war” is won (or lost). It’s what you are doing: framing the narrative. As is our esteemed host Mr. Unz. As is about 1/2 the so-called “dissident right”.

    I’ll say this much: this insane hoax – perhaps the greatest hoax of all time – has really helped the cognescenti distinguish wheat from chaff.

  46. @geokat62

    Regarding the plank of no more wars for Israel, it’s clear to me why Sec. of Defense Esper and General Milley refused to send in the military to quell the BLM/Antifa riots tearing up American cities. They believe the military should only be used in foreign wars of aggression, and not to defend the homeland. And they need all the troops to enforce American Exceptionalism abroad.

    Why else did Mr. Trump allow them to stand down after the photo op of him holding a Bible in front of that torched church across from the WH? This is just conjecture on my part, but I think Trump was told in no uncertain terms that they would arrest him if he tried to impose the Insurrection Act.

    Trump’s instincts were to shut down the riots with brute force, but he was prevented from doing so. Retired officers, led by his fired first SecDef Mad Dog Mattis, publicly want Trump gone, and the top military brass is siding with them. For political reasons so close to the election, the President cannot fire his disloyal Defense Secretary and his top general.

  47. Malla says:
    @Rich

    Unfortunately the way things are with human societies and organisations, psychopaths (archons) tend to go to the top and gain power.

  48. The covid-19 scam, hoax, psyop and the blacklivesmatter psyop are both zionist weapons aimed at destroying America and reducing the population via forced vaccinations that will contain nano rfi chips and assorted toxic materials designed to kill the people who receive these vaccinations.

    Noticed that Giraldi said that the virus is raging, this is totally disinformation as the virus know as covid-19 does not exist.

  49. There is a virus, and it may be harmful to a minute sector of the population, just as the common cold can be.
    The hoax is the lethality of the virus and what “cases” means. Even is there were a 100% rate of “infection”, testing in other countries have shown that of those testing positive, 50% are asymptomatic, and of the 50% that are symptomatic, less than 20% are mild to severe symptoms and the mortality rate is less than 1%, and overwhelmingly in those aged 70+ and/or with serious underlying medical conditions. In the big scheme of things, your risk of being killed is about the same as a car ride to work.

  50. “Some say the sun rises in the East, some say in the West; I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.”
    Keep clear of German claptrap of the Herderian-Hegelian brand. There are Rashomon situations all right, but there are also situation where one side is verifiably right and the other blatantly lying. I guess Covid is a Rashomon, but BLM – I mean, what kind of protest is even supposed to be voiced by blacks who loot and shoot other blacks? Disliking arson likewise has nothing to do with being “internally wired” this way or the other.
    Herder claimed that “all cultures are equal before God”, but I doubt very much he had any idea of Aztec ways or the goings-on in the City of Benin; some things are just outside the widest possible civilisational perimeter. The BLM thugs are likewise simply beyond the pale.
    You know, there is a huge danger inherent in all this gentlemanly relativism: It can be turned around quite effortlessly. If Benin-style hecatombs are justified by being native culture, slavery as is was practised in the CSA is just as much justified by being a local custom (at least black slaves in the CSA were not regularly crucified, as the were in the City of Blood). If BLM is justified, then…?
    As for China, American leaders should perhaps spend a bit less time playing golf, hosting dinners for billionaire friends, making fools of themselves at spelling bees, etc., and a bit more on studying Chinese culture and history. The Chinese have produced a huge body of literature that can be used as a perfect user’s manual. Ask Gen. Schwarzkopf, so far the latest successful military leader of the US, for the value of Chinese writings: He relied heavily on Sun Tzu’s Art of War and on the Thirty-Six Stratagems when planning the Desert Storm campaign. Most Americans, though, appear completely clueless about the up-and-coming world power in Asia.

  51. “Some say the sun rises in the East, some say in the West; I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.”
    Keep clear of German claptrap of the Herderian-Hegelian brand. There are Rashomon situations all right, but there are also situation where one side is verifiably right and the other blatantly lying. I guess Covid is a Rashomon, but BLM – I mean, what kind of protest is even supposed to be voiced by blacks who loot and shoot other blacks? Disliking arson likewise has nothing to do with being “internally wired” this way or the other.
    Herder claimed that “all cultures are equal before God”, but I doubt very much he had any idea of Aztec ways or the goings-on in the City of Benin; some things are just outside the widest possible civilisational perimeter. The BLM thugs are likewise simply beyond the pale.
    You know, there is a huge danger inherent in all this gentlemanly relativism: It can be turned around quite effortlessly. If Benin-style hecatombs are justified by being native culture, slavery as is was practised in the CSA is just as much justified by being a local custom (at least black slaves in the CSA were not regularly crucified, as the were in the City of Blood). If BLM is justified, then…?
    As for China, American leaders should perhaps spend a bit less time playing golf, hosting dinners for billionaire friends, making fools of themselves at spelling bees, etc., and a bit more on studying Chinese culture and history. The Chinese have produced a huge body of literature that can be used as a perfect user’s manual. Ask Gen. Schwarzkopf, so far the latest successful military leader of the US, for the value of Chinese writings: He relied heavily on Sun Tzu’s Art of War and on the Thirty-Six Stratagems when planning the Desert Storm campaign. Most Americans, though, appear completely clueless about the up-and-coming world power in Asia.

  52. @bj0311

    Exactly. What we have here is a conflict between the world of objective reality and the hotly promoted post-modern, post-truth world in which everyone is overtly encouraged to advance their “own truth”. The trap, of course, is that the individual who takes the advice to heart and offers a truly idiosyncratic “truth” will be quickly ignored. But because he now buys into the notion that there is no objective truth, he is encouraged to think it makes no difference what he believes and to take comfort from going along with what is promoted as the consensus view.

    Perhaps the better philosophical approach is that of the Overton Window, where the media strictly delimit the range of acceptable viewpoints on any question. By merely characterizing some viewpoint outside that window as a crazy conspiracy theory, the PTB are telling us not to go there.

    If there is such a thing as objective reality, any society not committed to searching it out and living according to its strictures is bound to collapse in disorder. It will go the way of the dinosaurs, so to speak.

  53. What Phil is describing is the exact same trend that happened prior to World War I.

    Here Britain was still going by its centuries old “balance of power” philosophy whereby no continental European nation could ever become strong enough to pose a viable threat to Britain’s empire and its subsequent interest. Does this sound familiar.

    Germany, on the other hand, wanted to secure its rather small empire (actually just a few colonies) as well as its ability to trade internationally. As a result, it began building a “defensive” fleet of modern warships.

    When Britain began raising the alarm regarding Germany’s developing fleet and how it could threaten European interests, Germany had own 9 modern battleships to Britain’s 72.

    With the eventual French alliance with Russia, the allied, naval strength now comprised of around 105 warships to Germany’s still 9 or possibly 11 ships.

    Does this sound familiar?

    Britain pushed for war with Germany as a result, by generating an atmosphere of provocation while developing secret military alliances with France that no one but certain British leaders were aware of.
    Germany, as it became aware of these trends, understandably began to fell encircled and thus continued to develop its two-front war plan that was primarily based upon what is now called The Schlieffen Plan (which is still being debated as to being an actual war plan or merely a construct that was based on a memo promoting such a concept).

    The rest is history, though the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand in 1914 was NOT the catalyst that initiated World War I even though many historians like to tout it as such. More prescient historians now understand that it was the Russian mobilization against Germany that initiated the conflict, which had begun only as a regional but serious dust-up between Austria and Serbia. Had Britain stayed out of the mess, Austria would have still lost and left the field of battle of disgrace with nothing else ensuing.

    Today we have the United States merely emulating earlier British policy and deceit with China as the new “threat” to world interests. Despite China’s style of home rule, for all intents and purposes she is the far more reasonable of the two antagonists as Germany was during the threat against her by Britain, France, and Russia.

    Kaiser Wilhelm II was also the only leader to work assiduously to prevent an eruption of large scale warfare. But of course this little fact is lost to the western historians who enjoy touting the idea that the allies were fighting for democracy and all that other bullshit…

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @karel
    , @HeebHunter
  54. Likewise, the “black lives matter” generated protests have not surprisingly also produced strong responses that have gone far beyond the whys or wherefores involving the killing of one man in police custody.

    Not a fact. The fact is that a man died in police custody. It has yet to be determined how he died. If by drug overdose or by a combination of drugs consumed, he “killed” himself.

    The story reveals how all of the contradictory testimony was fundamentally dishonest, in that each participant was interpreting events to support his or her self-interest in the outcome of the tragedy.

    Not necessarily entirely self interest. Human nature is to depict situations in a way favourable to ourselves – Hitler’s “little lies”. However, we all filter what we see, hear, and read through our own life experiences. For example, Chicago’s murder rate is not as horrifying to people in St Louis as it is to people in Salt Lake City. It’s as much what we expect to see as what we want to see. We expect to see higher murder rates in cities with high non-White populations, whether they are or not.

    It has recently reneged on agreements to maintain Hong Kong as an autonomous region,

    In context, China was under no obligation to agree to anything. The lease was up, and Britain was out. The agreement was for a different system phased out over 50 years. The system was primarily an economic system, not a political system. Hong Kong’s Governors had more control over the affairs of Hong Kong’s residents than the CCP has over its citizens. The last Governor, Chris Patton, was put in place to expand the phony “democracy” that could be used to club the PRC. There was no “democracy” in Hong Kong prior to the 1984 joint announcement of return.

    • Agree: nosquat loquat
  55. @propagandist hacker

    China didn’t bomb Dresden, 130 other German cities & countless French & Italian cities — European-American Christians bombed Dresden &c. On behalf of Jewish zionists.

    China did not destroy Iraq — European-American Christians bombed Iraq. On behalf of Jewish zionists.

    China is not providing financial assistance to Israel to carry out slow genocide of Palestinians — European Christians are paying Israel to kill Palestinians, on behalf of Jewish zionists.

    China is not carrying out economic war against Iran, European – American Christians are doing so, at the behest of Jewish zionists.

    • Agree: Iris, neutral
    • Replies: @frontier
  56. Linked down below, listen to PreZident Clinton speak about the cause of the TWA 800 catastrophe.

    Fyi, he and Hillary “felt the pain” of victim families, and an act of sabotage was still an intrguing possibility.

    Later, WJC felt the wrath of Likud when he refused to meet with Netanyahu in the Blue & White House. He preferred secretly meeting with Monica Lewinsky who always gave him an unregulated One Dick Solution.🤣

  57. “Noticed that Giraldi said that the virus is raging, this is totally disinformation as the virus know as covid-19 does not exist.”

    And neither does the author of this grammatically flawed grotesqueness.

  58. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    The time is upon us to disengage from China, and nothing good will come from delaying.

    China has been leading the process of disengagement. That’s what its whole “Belt & Road” and “Made in China 2025” projects are about. Integrating Eurasian economies and developing technology in China so it doesn’t have to depend on US markets and technology.

    So if the US is interested in disengagement and doesn’t like globalization, why doesn’t it leave China and its projects be? Why doesn’t it give China and these projects its blessing? One would think it would be perfect excuse and opportunity for the US to disengage from China and the world economy, deglobalize, and focus on its own continent or hemisphere and on building a more autarkic economy.

    But the US reaction has been the exact opposite. Rather than as an opportunity to turn inward and release itself from the burdens of globalization, it views the “Belt & Road” and “Made in China 2025” as major threats.

    This suggests that the US is not interested in disengagement or deglobalization. It is interested in hegemony, and globalization on its hegemonic terms.

  59. @Carlton Meyer

    Rape a day in Okinawa. Yes, patriots and military boosters. An American soldiersailorairman whatever rapes an Okinawan woman every single one of the 365 1/4 days a year, every year, since 1945. You should be proud of your country.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  60. frontier says:
    @gay troll

    Rashomon is an interesting meditation on human perception.

    The Rashomon Effect is a rather mundane case of genuine self-delusion about factual evidence. As you correctly observed, its applicability in politics is limited because politicians are generally aware of the facts, they simply lie, compelled by some interests. RE and propaganda often have a self-serving element that drives them, other than that they are different.

    Both red and blue teams look at each other and see propagandized nitwits. Both are correct… The point is that COVID 19 is actually irrelevant. The collapse of the American economy is not the consequence of COVID, it is the motivation for COVID… manufactured perspectives can be designed to exclude and occult the truth completely… Media narratives on all sides are designed to polarize and fracture public opinion.

    All of them good points! I was expecting some constructive advice but instead I read

    “Wreck the vote 2020”?

    What a letdown… haven’t we wrecked enough already? I don’t see how more of it is going to help.

    • Agree: chris
    • Replies: @gay troll
  61. frontier says:
    @Insouciant

    China is not providing financial assistance (to all ills in the world)… European – American Christians are doing so

    Nonsense… China was and still is providing that funding by hosting most of the production capacity of US corporations. “European – American Christians” are selling lollypops on the internet and lack the capacity to find anything larger than a dog pageant competition…

    China willfully provided cheap labor to the US corporations and filled their coffers, enabling US wars and ruining the US economy in the process. The Chinese did it themselves, then, as it often happens between conmen, the relationship went sour and now that gay marriage is pending divorce… Cry me a river…

    • Replies: @neutral
  62. gay troll says:
    @frontier

    The most constructive thing I can think of to do under the duress of uniparty rule is to withdraw consent by not voting. That’s what I mean by wreck the vote (wordplay on MTV’s “rock the vote”). No need to resort to violence in my opinion. We simply must make it clear to everyone on Earth that the U.S. government has lost the consent of the governed.

    • Agree: frontier, nosquat loquat
  63. @propagandist hacker

    Well, as a white American, I can tell you that I fervently pray to God every single day that before Western Civilization goes under, our people nuke the living fucking dogshit out of EVERYONE!

    With a few hundred extra megatons on Israel, just to make sure that filthy rat’s nest is completely sterilized.

    • Agree: neutral
    • Replies: @Thim
    , @Francis Miville
  64. Richard B says:

    Well, as a white American, I can tell you that I fervently pray to God every single day that before Western Civilization goes under, our people nuke the living fucking dogshit out of EVERYONE!

    The only correction to be made in that comment is that “White” should be capitalized.

    Always!

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  65. Sean says:

    China has been leading the process of disengagement. That’s what its whole “Belt & Road” and “Made in China 2025” projects are about. Integrating Eurasian economies and developing technology in China so it doesn’t have to depend on US markets and technology.

    China’s investment and tech assistance is such an unalloyed boon.

    Italy’s joins China’s Belt and Road Initiative – CNBC.comwww.cnbc.com › 2019/03/27 › italys-joins-chinas-belt-an…
    27 Mar 2019 – Italy’s decision to be the first major European economy to join China’s massive investment and infrastructure project, the Belt and Road Initiative ..

    Chinese funding for major infrastructure sold Italy on the deal. How did that work out for them?

    ‘I love China,’ Boris Johnson tells Xi Jinping in phone call …www.scmp.com › News › China › Diplomacy
    19 Feb 2020 – British prime minister again displays a cosiness with Beijing that contrasts with his hardline approach to the European Union amid Brexit trade

    Licking China’s boots by giving Huawei Britain’s 5G contact then, after the pandemic started, calling up to pledge his troth. How did that work out for him?

    This suggests that the US is not interested in disengagement or deglobalization. It is interested in hegemony, and globalization on its hegemonic terms.

    They can do business with America, or China. Not both. Britain had agreed to China building a major nuclear power station, then they were given the UK’s 5G and Johnson was saying he wanted London to be Singapore-on-Thames, while Italy wanted to be a hub of the New Sick, sorry, Silk Road. Both Italy and Britain have had their tourism industry destroyed and their national brand tanked right after sidling up to China. A mistake that will not be repeated.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Anonymous
  66. So it’s all about a “free 21st century ….

    Let’s start with us being freed from the likes of Pompeo for the rest of the century.

  67. Tim too says:

    “The tale, set in 8th Century feudal Japan, involved a rape and a murder with each of the four principal characters providing his and her own version of what had occurred. ”

    And the ‘own version’ shows up in the very sentence! We don’t know it was a rape, and we don’t know it was a murder. All we have is versions.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  68. Thim says:
    @GeneralRipper

    Damn General, why don’t you tell us what you really think?

  69. karel says:
    @Steve Naidamast

    Quite right. It was the Germans and Austrians who were fighting in WW1 for democracy and continued with this noble cause in 1939. Whether they do it now is difficult to tell.

    • Troll: L.K
  70. American Citizen 2.0 says:

    When it comes to whether or not policing meets the standards of a community that hosts it, there are no facts per se. If black people feel like the way they are policed is not how they want it to be, they are well within their rights to demand that policing change. The great thing that people have demonstrated over the last few months is that civil disobedience can work, even very assertive, violent civil disobedience. The community at large can respond to the civil disobedience that the black community has been staging however it wants too. We are outside of the realm of polite conversation now.

  71. @Tim too

    Instructively, Tim too wrote: “We don’t know it was a rape, and we don’t know it was a murder. All we have is versions.”

    Having watched the classic film long ago, I think there was a murder. 🤔

    In my semi-humble opinion, the genius of Japanese director, Kurosawa, was to provide versions of what really happened.

    Doubtless, the Western Zionist Intelligence Agencies, including Mossad, like it that way and the Jewish Corporate Medias give the goyim surplus versions to chew upon.

    Thanks a buck, Tim too, and please let me know how Roshoma actually started?

    • Replies: @Tim too
  72. Instructively, Tim too wrote: “We don’t know it was a rape, and we don’t know it was a murder. All we have is versions.”

    Having watched the classic film long ago, I think there was a murder. 🤔

    In my semi-humble opinion, the genius of Japanese director, Kurosawa, was to provide “versions” of what really happened.

    Doubtless, the Western Zionist Intelligence Agencies like it that way, and the Jewish Corporate Medias give the goyim surplus versions to chew & choke upon

    Thanks a buck, Tim too, and if possible, please let me know how Roshoma actually started?
    Fyi, it’s probably outrageously expensive to buy on Amazon.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  73. @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Orloski!

    Get on the ball?

    Below, Roshomon affordably available at Amazon.

  74. @Sean

    Both Italy and Britain have had their tourism industry destroyed and their national brand tanked right after sidling up to China.

    If Ron Unz’s thesis is correct, Americans unleashed Coronavirus biowarfare then it boomeranged
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    They [Italy and Britain] can do business with America, or China. Not both.

    It logically follows from Unz’s argument that USA used its bioweapon to punish Italy & Britain for choosing China rather than USA.

    Next, consider that in its beginning phase, the corona bioweapon was likened to “World War II.”

    What were the impacts of WWII on Italy and Britain?

    Italy was pounded with Allied bombs; Italy’s political system was taken over by Allies, actually, Americans, who by finessing Churchill and the British out of a joint march on Rome, gained control of the Italian capital as well as the Mediterranean and trade with all the ports Italy had enjoyed.

    As an outcome of WWII, the British saw their empire fragmented, just as FDR wished.

    So, for the Italians and the British, the choice of Not USA signified, indeed,

    A mistake that will not be repeated.

    Perhaps the Italians and the British took a lesson from the Iranians and chose to absorb short-term blows in the interest of ensuring their longer-term sovereignty and prosperity.

    Some people really do learn from history.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Sean
  75. Aranhas says:
    @mijj

    You better believe it jerk and we know where you live. Don’t EVEN try to get near our borders or you’ll think water-boarding is a sport.

  76. Anonymous[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    You didn’t address my point, which was that China has been taking the initiative to disengage from the US by developing alternative economic arrangements in Eurasia. If the US was truly interested in disengagement, it would welcome these developments.

    Britain was never part of the Belt & Road project, and Italy’s participation was never a major component of the Belt & Road. Western Europe in general is not a significant participant in the Belt & Road, for obvious reasons: its own organizations with the EU, its ties to the US and NATO, etc. The Belt & Road’s activity is mainly in Central Asia between western China and Iran, and SE Asia.

    They can do business with America, or China. Not both.

    So you agree with my original point that this has nothing to do with disengagemnt per se. The US is not opposed to globalization, it is opposed to globalization that is not on its hegemonic terms.

    • Replies: @Sean
  77. Anonymous[212] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Italy was pounded with Allied bombs; Italy’s political system was taken over by Allies, actually, Americans, who by finessing Churchill and the British out of a joint march on Rome, gained control of the Italian capital as well as the Mediterranean and trade with all the ports Italy had enjoyed.

    After WW2, Italy had Europe’s largest communist party, which was poised to win election and turn Italy into a neutral or pro-Soviet direction. One of the CIA’s first major postwar operations was preventing this and ensuring victory for Italy’s pro-US Christian Democratic Party. This was followed by decades of operations like Operation Gladio in Italy in which US and NATO clandestine services used terrorism blamed on leftists to keep Italy away from a more neutral or pro-Soviet position during the Cold War.

  78. Z-man says:
    @Z-man

    Or as I say… Beware the Power of the CABAL.

  79. Pft says:
    @bj0311

    I agree with you except on your analysis of the difference between left and right. Both are equally irrational but in different ways

    We live in a Pathocracy. You might be interested in the Politics of Ponerology.

    A couple of quotes

    “When a ponerogenic process encompasses a society’s entire ruling class, or nation, or when opposition from normal people is stifled – as a result of the mass character of the phenomenon, or by using spellbinding means and physical compulsion, including censorship – we are dealing with a macrosocial ponerologic phenomenon”

    Snip

    “Emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person’s mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the “golden mean” between the truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit. People who think like this do not realize that this effect is precisely the intent of the person who subjects them to this method. If the counterfeit of the truth is the opposite of a moral truth, at the same time, it simultaneously represents an extreme paramoralism, and bears its peculiar suggestiveness.”

    Snip

    “Perception of the truth about the real environment, especially an understanding of the human personality and its values, ceases to be a virtue during the so-called “happy” times; thoughtful doubters are decried as meddlers who cannot leave well enough alone. During “good” times, the search for truth becomes uncomfortable because it reveals inconvenient facts. It is better to think about easier and more pleasant things. Unconscious elimination of data which are, or appear to be, inexpedient gradually turns into habit, and then becomes a custom accepted by society at large. The problem is that any thought process based on such truncated information cannot possibly give rise to correct conclusions; it further leads to subconscious Thereby approaching the boundaries of psychopathology.

    The capacity for logical and disciplined thought, born of necessity during difficult times, begins to fade. When communities lose the capacity for psychological reason and moral criticism, the processes of the generation of evil are intensified at every social scale, whether individual or macrosocial, until everything reverts to “bad” times.

    When a few generations’ worth of “good-time” insouciance results in societal deficit regarding psychological skill and moral criticism, this paves the way for pathological plotters, snake-charmers, and even more primitive impostors to act and merge into the processes of the origination of evil. They are essential factors in its synthesis.“

    I also found a couple of quotes in CS Lewis “a Hideous Strength” of interest

    “T)he educated public, the people who read the highbrow weeklies, don’t need reconditioning. They’re all right already. They’ll believe anything.”

    Snip

    “Don’t you understand anything? Isn’t it absolutely essential to keep a fierce Left and a fierce Right both on their toes and each terrified of the other? That’s how we get things done. Any opposition to the N.I.C.E. is represented as a Left racket in the Right papers and a Right racket in the Left papers. If it’s properly done you get each side out-bidding the other in support of us—to refute the enemy slanders. Of course we’re non-political. The real power always is.”

    • Thanks: nosquat loquat
  80. Art says:

    Mike Pompeo is uncomfortable with that, saying last month that “We must admit a hard truth that should guide us in the years and decades to come: that if we want to have a free 21st century, and not the Chinese century of which Xi Jinping dreams, the old paradigm of blind engagement with China simply won’t get it done.

    The stakes are very high! The Jew central bank dollar is being contested.

    Israel/Trump/Pompeo are pushing Lebanon into the hands of China. China is offering Lebanon a carrot – Pompeo a stick. More and more US sanctions are robbing the vitality of the people of Lebanon. The hated Jews offer only gloom.

    Hmm?

  81. frontier says:
    @American Citizen 2.0

    Yours is the most obvious trolling I’ve seen in while. What you call civil disobedience is a state sponsored terror campaign of provocation… of a large scale disturbance to use as an excuse for imposing tighter totalitarian control and rights destruction. There can’t be any doubt about it, after five months of rioting and no sponsor or organizer ever investigated, much less prosecuted. In fact, the US largest corps pledge billions for more destruction and there isn’t a shred of interest in the manner these funds are being used.

    If black people feel like the way they are policed is not how they want it to be, they are well within their rights to demand that policing change.

    The highly destructive, offensive and nakedly cruel script followed by this campaign is quite telling and without excuse. Policing did change – now black crime is untouchable and we all pay for it, in blood and money, in addition to welfare. Cops in the streets aren’t the problem, the political leadership is what governs them but they’ve been sadistically betrayed by it.

    Police rules of engagement have been different for many years, they can’t change fast but all of sudden the politicians demand from cops to stop policing and become antifa community organizers, regardless of risk… We trusted those politicians with control of police and they’ve betrayed us and them. It’s time to move to citizen-hired militia policing and reconsider the tax codes, we should NOT pay politicians to make a mockery of us, our lives and our cops… all at our expense.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  82. Twinkie says:

    I’d like to applaud the author of this article for his thoughtful and considered analysis.

    The only objection I have is his describing of China as “totalitarian” when it is more of an “authoritarian” country. But that is but a very small and minor quibble about an essay of unusual (esp. for Unz.com) sobriety.

  83. @Yukon Jack

    It’s a straightforward, scientific fact that no test can effectively isolate and identify the alleged SARS Cov-2 (Covid-19) virus molecule? Ineffective Polymerise Chain Reaction (PCR) tests have been universally employed by public health officials to report Covid-19 “cases”, “infections” and “related deaths”. The government reporting represents a massive medical fraud on the public.

    If this was a “raging virus” governments would be more inclined to report independently verifiable case, infection and death statistics. However, the exact opposite is the truth. Independent medical data confirming the death statistics simply does not exist. Virtually all those who have allegedly died from Covid-19 were elderly or suffering from severe preexisting health problems.

    According to the WHO and CDC approximately 99.7% of those exposed to SARS Cov-2 are asymptomatic or experience only mild symptoms, so where is the “raging virus”?

    I have considerable respect for Phil’s intellect and integrity, so I’m disappointed in the quality of his work product on this issue.

  84. @bj0311

    There is truth in what you say.

    I liken it to taking a bearing on the target from a number of directions. Three bearings provides a reasonably good fix, so a person who is knowledgeable in a number of disciplines can cross reference his line of reasoning and self correct.

    Once, debating a psych prof who put forth a rashomon effect type argument, I countered with this: Lithography is printmaking that uses flat stones as the master from which copies are made. To create accurate prints, it is vital that the stone be truly flat and smooth. So, the problem is, how to flatten and smooth a stone?

    To do so, you sprinkle carborundum dust on wettened stone A. Now you place wettened stone B on top and move it over A in a figure of 8 motion. At a certain point, the stones will grab. You will not be able to move them. They are pretty darn flat and smooth. But not enough. Now you rinse both off in fresh water. Take stone B and do the same process with stone C. When you are done, use stone C on A. Now A is very smooth and flat. And so on as far as you wish to take it.

    The point is, using three reference planes, none of which are perfect, you can achieve near perfection. So, objectivity can arise out of three “subjective” states.

    If a person is well grounded in Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Geology, Astronomy and Meteorology and if they are very competent at math and if they have studied the history of Western Ideas and Art, Psychology, Anthropology, Ethology and if they are a competent musician, artist and athlete and if they have studied Engineering, drafting, surveying and Technology and are competent in the manual arts of welding, machine metalworking, carpentry, cabinetmaking, boatbuilding, auto mechanics, electricity and plumbing then they have many frames of reference from which to operate and by which to judge the truth of what other people are saying.

    It’s not a stretch to posit that the person described above will, in general, be a better judge of “what is” than a twenty something young woman whose entire life experience has been gleaned from engaging with others, similarly qualified and minded, on social media.

  85. @American Citizen 2.0

    But black people are responding to a false reality. They are tilting at windmills. According to you, a blindfolded man swinging wildly at a pinata’ that he only imagines to exist (because the man who blindfolded him has told his that there really is a pinata’ there, that one really does exist) is engaging in completely justifiable behavior.

    Actually, that man is deluded. Or insane. On the one hand, he is to be pitied because he has been duped by a craftier player, but he is dangerous nonetheless because in his wild swings, he may–and does–hit and injure innocent bystanders.

    Yours is not a tolerant or benevolent outlook. It is harmful because you tolerate the exploitation of an ignorant dupe and take pleasure in the harm he causes as he careens through life. You’re kinda sadistic

  86. @frontier

    “What you call civil disobedience is a state sponsored terror campaign of provocation… of a large scale disturbance to use as an excuse for imposing tighter totalitarian control and rights destruction.”

    Huffpo reported Black Lives Matter Protester Shot While Marching Through Pennsylvania

    The 27-minute video, posted to Facebook by activist Frank Nitty, shows the Wisconsin-based protesters — who are in the middle of a 750-mile march from Milwaukee to Washington, D.C. — standing on a road in Schellsburg, Pennsylvania, a little before midnight.

    Near the end of the video, two white men can be seen standing in front of a nearby house. One of them appears to be holding a gun. Multiple gunshots can then be heard in the video, as Nitty and other activists scramble and duck into the nearby cars that were accompanying them on their march.

    “We’re leaving! You don’t have to get violent!” one protester can be heard screaming.

    This is a provocation.
    Schellsburg is a crossroads on Route 30, a winding, climbing route roughly paralleling Pennsylvania turnpike that is decidedly Trump country. It’s a bit under 20 miles east of Shanksville, PA, site of a monument to a 9/11 plane crash that left neither debris nor corpses but only cell phone recordings. Hard by Shanksville, a windmill farm replaces what was not too long ago a coal strip-mining operation.

    Schellsburg is in Bedford County, which has taken to boasting on billboards “Bedford County: Social Distancing since 1771.” Parts of Route 30 are half-a-mile above sea level and offer a spectacular view of surrounding Appalachian mountains and Laurel Highlands. More than a couple times, I’ve seen that extraordinary vista criss-crossed with chemtrails. Years ago, that stretch of Rte. 30 was a cell-phone dead-zone, but now, giant towers carry phone signals to the highest peak and most remote valley.

    The region was settled centuries ago by German and other European farmers and merchants, including Mennonites, many of whom still manage farms, small manufactures, and very well-run and well-stocked produce stands. Bedford County is home to perhaps half-a-dozen Mennonite churches.

    Elsewhere along Rte. 30, a barbecued pork stand bears signs inviting those demanding rights for various politically correct identities to take their business elsewhere.

    Like many of the small communities that dot Route 30 — Lincoln Highway — Schellsburg is tightly knit: I recall watching as the whole town participated in a Halloween parade along its Main Street, Dads carrying little ones on shoulders while Moms guide the bigger kids struggling to see through their masks.

    This Unmasked Jolly Green Giant stands guard over a stretch of Route 30
    Not a doubt in my mind that the men — and women — of Schellsburg are armed and know how to use their weapons.

    Equally not a doubt in my mind that it was not a local who allegedly shot the protesters from Wisconsin.

    What does puzzle me about this beautiful and unspoiled part of God’s green earth is why protesters from Wisconsin chose to march along Route 30, and to make a scene in Schellsburg.

    But then, every time I pass Shanksville, where the site of the 9/11 memorial does not even rate a traffic signal, I wonder what it was about this particular spot that made Dick Cheney and the other engineers of 9/11 think this was a suitable place for a fake crash.

    A real estate developer from Pittsburgh has bought up land along Route 31 — an alternate route to Rte. 30, and the region offers skiing, fishing and hunting.

    But mostly people there just want to left alone.

    MYOB, BLM.

    • Thanks: frontier, ChuckOrloski, Iris
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  87. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @American Citizen 2.0

    If black people feel like the way they are policed is not how they want it to be, they are well within their rights to demand that policing change. The great thing that people have demonstrated over the last few months is that civil disobedience can work, even very assertive, violent civil disobedience. The community at large can respond to the civil disobedience that the black community has been staging however it wants too. We are outside of the realm of polite conversation now

    Right on the money. Much more neutral than I’m used to seeing. Change a few words, and you get the same position from the white side of the fence:

    And if the white people feel like the way they are policed (in particular, not protected from the blacks) and taxed (in particular, their taxes that go to black necessitated activities, such as prisons – about 0.8 trillion dollars/year), they are well within their rights to demand that policing and taxing change.

    Of course, it may be that the rights of the white people are being violated, the white voices unheard. The community at large can respond to the civil disobedience (murder being a civil crime and a disobedience to God) that the black community has been staging however it wants too. We are outside of the realm of polite conversation now.

    Now, a Marxist would say that there was an unequal power relationship here, and that the blacks are in the right. I, myself, would say that I’ve been attacked by blacks but have not attacked any — and that the US Civil Rights Act of 1964 abrogates many of the rights that the US Constitution grants me. The unequal power relationship seems unequal the other way. Marxists may disagree, but only to each other. We are outside of the realm of polite conversation now.

    Symmetry — ain’t it wonderful? Symmetry enough and you’re left with right of conquest.

    • Replies: @American Citizen 2.0
  88. @American Citizen 2.0

    f black people feel like the way they are policed is not how they want it to be, they are well within their rights to demand that policing change. The great thing that people have demonstrated over the last few months is that civil disobedience can work, even very assertive, violent civil disobedience

    Well, with any luck those “black people” will target your neighborhood next and burn your house down with you and your entire cunt family in it.

  89. frontier says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I enjoyed your write up, I love the country side and the good, honest people living there.

    I agree with your assessment of that murder. The sheer volume and intensity of this campaign are signs of serious bets placed on a successful provocation of sufficiently large size. My impression is that it isn’t going well and it’s either in the process of escalation or winding it down – both would require some flareups. I hope the development of this case helps us find out.

    The dull, unwashed Antifa masses are a good cover for well trained folks, they’re also good targets for the same folks impersonating the other side… Ah, yes, and most of them are employed in education, don’t want to teach kids at school but have enough time to riot and burn what they’ve never built, far away from their own homes.

  90. frankie p says:
    @anon

    “Taiwan was and is a fascinating land with its own history, customs, and indigenous population. Taiwan has been temporarily occupied by various powers for various periods. The Dutch, the Spanish, the Qing, and the Kingdom of Middag all ruled parts of Taiwan at various times.”

    Saying so much, and yet leaving so much out as well! Taiwan is culturally Chinese, down to its very bones. Yes, there is an indigenous population, currently just over 2% of the population. 95 – 97% of the population are ethnically Han Chinese, whether Hoklo, Hakka or other groups who came over with the KMT after its defeat in the civil war. The culture of Taiwan is Chinese; to deny this fact is to deny reality. The Taiwanese speak Mandarin, Hoklo, and some Hakka, all dialects originating from China. The Taiwanese celebrate holidays that come from China: Lunar New Year, the Dragon Boat Festival, Mid-Autumn Festival, etc. The food in Taiwan is Chinese food. The religions in Taiwan, besides Christianity, are Chinese: Buddhism and Taoism. An argument can be made that the effects of Communism on the Mainland Chinese while Taiwan was authoritarian and later democratic, have fostered cultural changes. This argument is superficial and the actual cultural outcomes have been extremely limited.

    “The Japanese colonized it (and did an amazingly good job of developing its technology) for a short time.”

    Taiwan was to be the prototype for the Asian Asia, controlled and led, of course, by Japan, the only developed country in Asia at the time. If you want a successful prototype to convince other nations, you had better not screw it up. The Japanese made great developments in Taiwan, laying out city grids, building a rail system, developing sanitation, and the education system. It’s telling that the Japanese implemented a Japanese language education system throughout the island. Even rural areas had elementary and junior high school teachers from Japan. It’s also telling that the elderly Taiwanese who experienced the Japanese colonial period have fond memories of it, much preferring the Japanese to the KMT mainlanders who followed them.

    I’ve lived here in Taiwan for over 30 years. I have a good picture of the situation.

  91. sally says:
    @Daniel Rich

    The nation state system divides the populations of the world into 2^8 = 256 or so units, and the masses are manipulated in unit by unit fashion. The nation state units are controlled by information control, culture, religion, race, and many other variables; propaganda is used to keep the binaries opposed to each other (divide and conquer), rule of law to separate those few with the wealth from those many in poverty, and military force when the crowd gets too close to fixing their plight.

  92. Anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    How has no one informed you that Mike Enoch is a sloppy fat lying jew? He got flustered and said it in an interview or two, his wife was a huge never-hid-it obvious khazar who supported trannies and all the typical jew subversive shit ((how he got outed originally), and he has pictures with his mixed race family at mealtimes with funny looking candles everywhere. This was all 4 or 5 years ago at least.

    Wake the fuck up

    • Replies: @geokat62
  93. sally says:
    @Realist

    I disagree with you realist, the people in those cities used to be humans, with just a bit of rehabilitation it likely will be possible to return them to the human race.. The problem is federalism..<==unchecked centralization of power and control. Not one American is allowed to vote for either the president or his side kick. Article II and amendment 12 of your constitution. Instead of nuking anyone, why not force those elected to live within the constitution of the USA they were elected to uphold? Things would change a bit.

    One option is the fourth amendment (1 of 10 of the bill of rights). Recited that amendment says:
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable search and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized.

    When I logged onto Unz today, Google was tracking me.. If I were in my home Internet tracking would violate the 4th amendment. If i were in my car internet tracking would violate the 4th amendment, if I were sending a private paper to you from me, internet tracking would be a violation of the 4th amendment. The reason internet trackers can violate the 4th amendment is because you, and all other citizen are unwilling to force those elected to the constitutional government and paid a giant salary to protect your governed citizen from violations of the 4th amendment. There are only 527 of those elected bastards, why can 340,000,000 of us make them follow the constitution we are forced to pay them to violate?

    • Replies: @Realist
  94. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    The US is not opposed to globalization, it is opposed to globalization that is not on its hegemonic terms.

    No one continues to abide by rules they cannot win by. America thought it was the expert, but found itself at a carny playing unfamiliar games and being told by shills they were on the verge of massive gains, they just needed to stake a little more. Far from the anticipated conversion of China to the US political and economic system, what transpired was America being comprehensively trounced, its working class being destroyed with unemployment then Fentanyl, and billionaires in Wall Street and Tech–beneficiaries of inequality unparalleled since the run up to WW1–deciding that that China has a better model. The traditional party for working people became a tool of globalisation of China’s competitive advantage. Biden’s son hitched a ride to Beijing on Air Force and was given a billion dollars to invest, while across town his father was reaching understandings with Xi on trade.

    China has been taking the initiative to disengage from the US by developing alternative economic arrangements in Eurasia.

    Taking the place of the US in countries the US considers within its sphere of influence is an offensive rather than disengaging strategy. Chinese microprocessors in a recovered North Korean satellite booster is telling evidence for a long suspected use of Kim as a cat’s paw. Yes Virginia, China is behind the astounding post 2016 progress made North Korea in posing a thermonuclear threat to the Continental US. The world will hear much of Kim’s colossal new ICBM in the unlikely event of Trump being re-elected. The Chinese are not going to let their American ‘mark’ leave the table before he has been thoroughly fleeced, but they would do well to consider the likely consequences for world peace because there will be a backlash eventually, rely on it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  95. Chinaman says:
    @anon

    Exactly the kind of historical distortion ( jap did an amazing job of enslaving Taiwan! ) and bias that the author is trying to expose.

    • Replies: @frankie p
  96. @Rich

    Iran. It is not an utopian country at all, but it is NOT run by psychopaths. It is run by people who despite the barbaric acts they are known for now and then do them moved by common sense and real fear of God and of eternal hell if they act otherwise. Have a look. If you can’t make a trip there, get acquainted with people there.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
  97. @GeneralRipper

    No. If you destroy Israel, you will have them all over the planet and never forget that it is only the iceberg tip of that people that you see in the news : they are but the priestly caste of the greater religion of black magic which is ardently practiced by one billion people at least as of now. If you destroy their priests other more efficient ones are just waiting their turn to take place. Most Jews act under other labels : for instance the neo-Aztec banditry tormenting Mexico right now is also them. Thanks to the presence of Israel in one place they are being corralled in their biggest ghetto ever and that ghetto after having snobbed every body around like as untermenscen the Ghetto of Warsaw did, will turn like a super Warsaw ghetto. Their will build their infamous Temple and lose it all.

  98. Sean says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    https://longbets.org/9/
    BET 9

    DURATION 4 years (02017-02020)
    “A bioterror or bioerror will lead to one million casualties in a single event within a six month period starting no later than Dec 31 02020.” PREDICTOR: Martin Rees.
    Rees’s Argument:

    Biotechnology is plainly advancing rapidly, and by 2020 there will be thousands-even millions-of people with the capability to cause a catastrophic biological disaster. My concern is not only organized terrorist groups, but individual wierdos with the mindset of the people who now design computer viruses. Even if all nations impose effective regulations on potentially dangerous technologies, the cyance of an active enforcement seems to me as small as in the case of the drug laws.

    By “bioerror”, I mean something which has the same effect as a terror attack, but rises from inadvertance rather than evil intent.»

    CHALLENGER
    Steven Pinker
    STAKES $400
    will go to Givewell if Rees wins,
    or Givewell if Pinker wins.

    https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-6135739/Wealthy-Chinese-spending-billions-high-end-London-property.html
    Israel gave a Chinese company the contract for managing the port used by visiting US Navy vessels.

    China is infiltrating the Western economy, and by serving the Chinese the indigenous rich and powerful in every country are getting richer than they could by any other means. All the brains and smart money in the West is siding with the Chinese, who are going to be unstoppable unless Trump wins re-election, which is looking extremely unlikely.

    Ron Unz is right about things like the East Asia Ivy league quotas, which are done by people conspiring, sort of, but more for a humanitarian motive that they can openly avow as ‘diversity’ policy. It is a gift to the less able rather than a misanthropic plot reminiscent of a Bond villain’s. He could be right about this being a deliberate bioweapon attack by a Deep State within the Deep State, but by my way of thinking the motive of a putative covert structure within the US government giving the order to attack China with the COVID-19 virus in such an unsubtle way would be far from obvious. Assuming they could get their orders for the operation executed by their subordinates (no small feat as no matter how compartmentalised the operatives would work out what was going on, worry they were participating in an unauthorised act of war (they hang you for that) and also understand that if they carried out the operation they would know too much. Prosaically, for the cabal the attack on China would not be personally remunerative. Carrying a high probability of sending events beyond their control, it would be rolling the dice on a grand scale, and against the most powerful big business interests there are and most of the top brass of the Deep State too by the way. Consider, the CIA and military swear oaths to obey lawful orders, and from the proper chain of command only.

    Moreover, the cabal that ordered such an operation as Ron might suggest would not be serving something greater than themselves in the way humans are powerfully motivated to do. The nation is the most satisfying repository of allegiance, and you get the respect of society, which is very powerful for most people. You can see that in mass entertainment, where usually some shadowy cabal within the CIA rather than a foreign country is the what our hero is fighting (Jack Bauer ECT vs corrupt United States government officials), the conspiracy are sneaky but not courageous. A clandestine conspiracy does not get the benefit of adaptations long the lines of the effect epitomised by oxytocin, which is stimulated in hugging, and elites suspicion of those outside the group and give courage to group members defending it to the point of self sacrifice.

  99. Anonymous[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Taking the place of the US in countries the US considers within its sphere of influence is an offensive rather than disengaging strategy.

    That was my whole point: the US regards the entire planet as its sphere of influence and seeks hegemony, and therefore “disengagement” is a red herring. The US will continue to “engage” with China, if not economically, in some adversarial fashion that involes it continue with globalization in alternative ways.

    As far as North Korea goes, yes, it is the sole ally of China. I’m not sure what your point is.

    The Chinese are not going to let their American ‘mark’ leave the table before he has been thoroughly fleeced, but they would do well to consider the likely consequences for world peace because there will be a backlash eventually, rely on it.

    Yes, it’s probable that the US will initiate a war against China in the near future. But it wouldn’t be a “backlash” but simply the logical result of the US pursuit of hegemony and unwillingness to cede the western Pacific to China.

    The US is likely to try to elicit some sort of military reaction and confrontation from China, similar to its embargoes and sanctions on Japan before WW2. At this point, war seems inevitable unless there’s some sort of internal revolution in the uS or if China is somehow able to decapitate the US elite.

    • Replies: @Sean
  100. @Yukon Jack

    Since you mentioned Beirut, where I agree with you fully about the tragic callous bombing, I just want to add this confirmed incident that happened to two people I personally know and who tried to get the Covid test at a public hospital by the flattering name of Rafiq Hariri Hospital:

    Both were given a number only to make them wait for more than three hours in line. Both decided to let go of the test. Both were later contacted to be informed that they tested positive.

    When I called a health official to express my indignation at the fraudulent behaviour of the hospital testing staff, the official’s answer was that the hospital needed the money. When I pressed for more information about who’s money he is talking about, his answer was the WHO money for countries showing excess cases. The number of so called “ Covid positive” increased on a daily basis from less than 25 on average during the first four to five months of the plandemic to the hundreds starting in the month of August despite most people staying home because of the economic depression and the general malaise after the bombing in the country. Meanwhile, the economy is biting the dust under lockdown.

    Any person expressing a doubt about the veracity of the Covid 19 virus is treated like a social outcast by the majority of brainwashed people who do not realise that Covid is a disease of the mind. Many tell stories about having been hit by ‘ Corona’ in the head, in the stomach, in the lungs etc… anything that goes wrong with their health is Covid.

  101. geokat62 says:
    @Anonymous

    Wake the fuck up

    I am well aware that Mike Enoch is married to a Jewess.

    This does not diminish the principles on which the National Justice Party is founded. If Enoch is a compromised individual, he should be expelled from this newly formed Party. But the Party should continue to exist and should continue to fight for the fundamental goals that have recently been articulated.

    Bottom Line: this Party and movement is bigger than Mike Enoch.

  102. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    So I guess Phil’s best “Good German” fence-sitting stance is to say “on the one hand, on the other” and do nothing. Like those who say both Jews and General Stroop’s troops had equally valid positions per 1943 Warsaw. And that the Allies and Axis were mirror images of each other.

    Mkay, then.

  103. frankie p says:
    @Chinaman

    I have spoken with many elderly people from Taiwan, and they had more good things to say about the Japanese colonial period than they did about the KMT and subsequent Republic of China. The Japanese invested money and manpower to develop Taiwan, and they certainly improved the lives of the old 100 surnames. Cities, infrastructure, medical care, and education all made incredible leaps during the early part of the 20th Century. Of course the Japanese, an orderly and disciplined people, expected and demanded the same discipline from the Taiwanese. It usually worked out, except for the indigenous people, who were more freedom loving than the Han Taiwanese. Of course the Japanese dealt out horrible retribution for any violence by the indigenous against Japanese soldiers or policemen. The old 50 to 1 principle. You kill 1 Japanese policemen, we kill 50 of your people. Chinamen like you can’t let go of your strong hatred of the Japanese due to their terrible excesses in the Mainland during the second world war, but you should at least face facts about how the Japanese treated Taiwan. You should also be aware of how the government of China uses the hatred of Japanese and Japan to their own ends. When there are difficult situations, the Communist Party riles up the populace, Japanese car dealerships get attacked, factories are surrounded, even embassies and consulates see violence. When the Communist Party sees things going too far, they dial it back, effectively. The message goes out and the rioters disappear.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Chinaman
  104. Realist says:
    @sally

    Instead of nuking anyone, why not force those elected to live within the constitution of the USA they were elected to uphold?

    I specifically stated that I was not for nuking anyone…so you imply I did. How would you force the elected…to do anything?

    There are only 527 of those elected bastards, why can 340,000,000 of us make them follow the constitution we are forced to pay them to violate?

    Those elected bastards can be forced to follow the constitution…but it will take a revolution. There are hundreds of billions of dollars controlling our government…the Deep State does exist and controls most federal officials. By the way there are 535 of those elected bastards.

    Since you mentioned Google go to my comment #27 for a fun test with Google.

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-transformation-of-europe-as-an-elite-project/

  105. Tim too says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “Thanks a buck, Tim too, and please let me know how Roshoma actually started?”

    Ho ho ho, ha ha! A long time ago, someone in another part of the ancient world came up with a concept called ‘estimation of proximal cause(s)’, this is a Greek version of something that some might think is related to the Rashomon effect. “That’s not how I remember it!”

    “Let us review the various versions of the proximal cause(s) of the start.”

    “Alright, who started it!” all fingers point at others.

  106. American Citizen 2.0 says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes white people can push for policing that works for them too. It’s all just being said much more explicitly now than it used to be, viz. we do not like black crime and we want to be pro-actively policed in order to minimize the social impact of black crime. Politicians used to dance around the issues in coded ways. If anything, the current round of anti-police rioting has brought to the fore the idea that we are talking about race and crime. If black people were not committing so much violent crime and robberies and rapes, nobody would have any problem with dialing back the police. But we can’t accept an outcome where everyone is being attacked by criminals just because there are no police anymore. Unfortunately, I think black people think that by creating all this violence they are going to somehow bully America into paying them reparations. I don’t support that.

  107. No kidding, Phil. I guess only retired intelligence officials are allowed to make objective assessments. Rashomon is a great film – have watched it several times over the years.

  108. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    China, similar to its embargoes and sanctions on Japan before WW2

    America saved China from Japan. The Chinese now have their own government pursuing China’s interests as they see them. Under Trump the US is ceasing to have the priority of exploiting China commercially because experience has taught the US that China gains relative power in trade with the US.

    At this point, war seems inevitable unless there’s some sort of internal revolution in the uS or if China is somehow able to decapitate the US elite.

    The supreme business interests in the US like Wall Street and Tech are trying to get rid of Trump so they can continue reaping massive profits in China. Trump is the representative of the lower orders (most people with a college degree did not vote for him). American finance and tech want their puppets back running things, with America’s long term security and the wellbeing of its working people de-emphasised. There is not going to be a war in the near future, Xi is carefully concentrating on a commercial economic policy so he does not have China set up for hostilities. But if as as a result of Trump’s China policy being rejected, China begins to overtakes America in potential power then after Harris’s second term there will be a reaction from America and escalation will start.

    Maybe America ought to defer to China and in a spirit of declension step aside globally, and accommodate China’s wish to be a Godzila state so big and powerful that no one would dream of attacking it. However, there are real conflicts of interest between China and the US now. It will not be a matter who which type of elites are in Charge in America, because China and America are increasingly going to be competing for markets, allies, and prestige. Your proposal that America cedes all these scarce and valuable apurtances of security to China by continuing to play the liberal trade game beloved of Wall Street and Tech is a recipe for a grassroots backlash in America and things going from commercial to kinetic. From its birth in Ancient Greece, democracy has always been far more warlike than oligarchy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  109. neutral says:
    @frontier

    China is not the only place that has cheap labour being used by US corporations. So instead of looking to blame the yellow peril, look closer to home and you will see it really is the jews.

  110. Mike Pompeo is uncomfortable with that, saying last month that “We must admit a hard truth that should guide us in the years and decades to come: that if we want to have a free 21st century, and not the Chinese century of which Xi Jinping dreams, the old paradigm of blind engagement with China simply won’t get it done. We must not continue it and we must not return to it.” So it’s all about a “free 21st century,” but in Rashomon fashion China wants the freedom to continue to expand economically that Washington sees as a potential threat to “political” freedom and, more generally speaking, to its own dominance. Both countries have their own vision of what they are “seeing” and neither one is listening.

    Nepotism has not necessarily, if ever the same ambitions. In case, both, the US and China have base ambitions in the long term, if any. As in Akutagawa Ryunosuke´s story, there are third and fourth options. Outcomes are never as they are conceived. Covid-19, BLM, they all have their own life. So does Middle East policies, the US China correlation.

  111. Stevek9 says:

    When you say the virus is “raging“, do you mean that many of your family and friends have died? Or do you mean that the media has convince you that it is raging.

  112. karel says:

    There is a moronic pest L.S. who types ”troll”, whenever he takes hands off his balls. Cannot the pope excommunicate him for this perpetual abuse.

  113. @gay troll

    Wreck the vote 2020.

    That is crucial to fight gravity!

  114. Chinaman says:
    @frankie p

    Chinamen like you can’t let go of your strong hatred of the Japanese due to their terrible excesses in the Mainland during the second world war, but you should at least face facts about how the Japanese treated Taiwan.

    Don’t be too presumptive, I lived in Taiwan too and know some Taiwanese elderly who could speak Japanese. Interestingly, I speak a bit of Japanese too…

    Don’t know what sample size are you talking about and I guess I can find as many anecdotes as you do to support a completely different narrative. We all choose our facts to fit our own reality. That’s what the article is about. I guess compradors will always have a favourable view and the patriots will always resist any form of subjugation. You sound like you will do very well under Jap occupation. They love subservient white people.

    Anyway, it is none of white people’s business. Japan will pay dearly for what it have done in its past. Don’t worry about us, we can sort out our own mess as we have done for the past 2000 years.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anon
    , @frankie p
  115. Anonymous[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Your proposal that America cedes all these scarce and valuable apurtances of security to China by continuing to play the liberal trade game beloved of Wall Street and Tech is a recipe for a grassroots backlash in America and things going from commercial to kinetic.

    It is not my “proposal”. In fact, my entire point is that the US will not cede anything and thus there is a very good chance of war in the near future. The implication of your original point was that the US simply wanted to “disengage” from China, as if it would be content as an isolationist, autarkic state. My point is that this is not the case, and that the US will be more “engaged” in the world, in an adverserial stance towards China.

    It is also not the case that US business interests like Wall St. and Tech are not interested in challenging China. The same relative power dynamic applies to US business elites:

    “Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Stoked Washington’s Fears About TikTok”

    “Social-media tycoon emphasized threat from Chinese internet companies as he worked to fend off U.S. regulation of Facebook”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-stoked-washingtons-fears-about-tiktok-11598223133

    There is not going to be a war in the near future, Xi is carefully concentrating on a commercial economic policy so he does not have China set up for hostilities. But if as as a result of Trump’s China policy being rejected, China begins to overtakes America in potential power then after Harris’s second term there will be a reaction from America and escalation will start.

    I agree that Xi is trying to play the long game and focusing on economics rather than military hostilities, but you’ll notice that the mainstream media coverage of Xi portrays him as extremely bellicose and aggressive militarily and expansionist. That’s no accident. There’s an understanding among US elites subconsciously that it’s in the US interest to provoke or elicit some sort of military reaction from China now rather than later when the relative power differential may change. I consider the “near term” the next 10 to 20 years, so the end of a hypothetical Harris second term would fall in that time range.

    The US has been stepping up its military posture in the China Seas and Pacific recently, with more aggressive naval patrols and shows of air power. It is also flirting with recognizing Taiwan and enhancing political and military relations with it. It may be trying to provoke a Chinese invasion or strike on Taiwan, which would then allow the US to impose a naval blockade of China or initiate formal military hostilities with China. This would need to be done soon, as in the near term of the next 10~20 years.

  116. @Steve Naidamast

    Anglos have always been the lowest human filth. They fancy themselves as part of the kike tribes.

  117. Anon[792] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    I guess compradors will always have a favourable view

    You are a servant of the compradors, so you must get a really good view of them when you kneel down to lick their boots.

    Anyway, it is none of white people’s business.

    How fortunate white people are to have bootlickers like you to make such claims.

    Don’t worry about us, we can sort out our own mess as we have done for the past 2000 years.

    Yeah, you sorted out the Opium Wars and the century of humiliations really gracefully.

  118. anon[544] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    Su Tseng-chang, the Premier of Taiwan, is one of the indirect beneficiaries of Japan’s occupation. His grandfather was a snitch and a collaborator who led the Japanese army to capture and kill the Han Chinese resistant fighters. For his effort, he was appointed by the Japanese many prominent and profitable positions, one of which was a co-founder of a local bank.


    Those in the uniform are Japanese soldiers.

    After the Japanese put down the Han Chinese rebellion, they started on the Taiwanese aborigines.

  119. @ChuckOrloski

    That was the only case I’ve heard of where a pilot was ordered to shoot down a civilian US airliner. The official story is that he didn’t get there in time and a heroic fight by the US passengers resulted in a dive to the ground by the pilot. I’ve always doubted that in view of the eyewitness reports.

    I don’t see that supports the theory of a false flag at the Twin Towers and Pentagon. Where do you find the kamikazis you need? Kamikazis are hard to recruit among people who are in no danger of being conquered. [email protected]

  120. anon[412] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t worry about Chinese concrete getting washed away in floods.

    https://gnews.org/318676/

    China is strong. Chinese technology can make buildings stand up to flooding even when those buildings don’t have foundations.

  121. frankie p says:
    @Chinaman

    Chinaman,

    I actually think that if you and I sat down and talked about the China / Taiwan issue, we’d find that we have more in common than you might think.

    “Don’t know what sample size are you talking about and I guess I can find as many anecdotes as you do to support a completely different narrative. ”

    I completely disagree. Unless you are talking about a sample size that includes Mainlanders that came over with the KMT in 1949, you will find that most of the elder Taiwanese have fond memories of the Japanese time. In addition, it’s the children and grandchildren of these oldsters that provide the most compelling argument. They have no experience with the Japanese, but they unanimously report that their parents/grandparents were well aware of the benefits that the Japanese brought. In no way do I consider the Japanese colonial project as having brought benefits only. I’m only reporting what I have heard.

    “I guess compradors will always have a favourable view and the patriots will always resist any form of subjugation.”

    This comment is utter BS and you should know it. The Taiwanese who lived under the Japanese colonial yoke were not either compradors or patriots. They were people with families who were trying to find a way to exist and let their families survive no matter who was in charge. You let your emotions get in the way of rational thinking.

    “You sound like you will do very well under Jap occupation. They love subservient white people.”

    Again, your ad hominem is utter bullshit, and your emotion again clouds your rational thinking. You say “will do well”, as if the Japanese are seeking to occupy Taiwan again. Grow a brain. The Japanese, since their defeat in WWII, have become political weaklings. In addition, although I have made a number of trips to Japan and find admirable qualities among the people, mostly their pride in their own culture and traditions and hard working nature. As to “subservient white people”, I don’t know if you’re trying to get a rise out of me or you’re just so angry that you feel the need to attack. I am not subservient to the Japanese, the Taiwanese, the Chinese, the DPP, the KMT or anyone. The fact is that I feel much more comfortable living here in Taiwan than I would in the US. I am a friend of Taiwan, but I’m a friend of China as well. I don’t think that hatred of China is a prerequisite for loving Taiwan. I have some ideas for effective strategies for bridging the gap between Taiwan and China, and I’ll be happy to discuss them with you, provided you keep civil.

    I’m curious as to where you fit in the picture. You have lived in Taiwan. You seem to live in the west now. Have you lived in China?

    “Anyway, it is none of white people’s business. Japan will pay dearly for what it have done in its past.”

    I don’t presume to tell the Chinese or Taiwanese what to do. I have opinions and share them with people who are interested. Japan paid dearly, and I think you live in a fantasy world if you think the Chinese government or people are interested in some kind of future revenge for past sins.

    • Agree: L.K
  122. Sean says:

    Rashomon is about a rape, and China has been economically raping America in the opinion of Trump and those who voted him in. Absolutely no one in ‘Washington’ was in accord with Trump’s views on China until 2016, and even most holders of a college degree did not vote for Trump. His China policy is representing the part of the working class that saw the redundancies and the Fentanyl and understood “engagement with China simply won’t get it done”. Pompeo is speaking for the little guy, rather than the Deep State or other elites.

    So it’s all about a “free 21st century,” but in Rashomon fashion China wants the freedom to continue to expand economically that Washington sees as a potential threat to “political” freedom and, more generally speaking, to its own dominance.

    China’s cat’s paw North Korea began threatening America with its cities being nuked (Kim suddenly and mysteriously had the ability to build ICBMs) as soon as Trump started disengaging from trade with China. Having been drugged, raped and given an STD, America does not want a second date. Offended, China is suing for breach of promise.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  123. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:

    Absolutely no one in ‘Washington’ was in accord with Trump’s views on China until 2016, and even most holders of a college degree did not vote for Trump.

    No, it was elite Washington consensus under Obama and Hillary as Sec. of State:

    “America’s Pacific Century”
    “The future of politics will be decided in Asia, not Afghanistan or Iraq, and the United States will be right at the center of the action.”
    By Hillary Clinton | October 11, 2011, 12:41 AM

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2011/10/11/americas-pacific-century/

    In addition to “ringing China” with missiles and the US Navy, the TPP was going to be a US centered free trade zone in the Asia Pacific that deliberately excluded China.

    Trump’s style and China policy has basically allowed other countries, including important ones like Germany, to have an excuse to hesitate from immediately joining in with the US. Whereas with someone like Hillary they would’ve already been roped into an anti-China coalition.

  124. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    (1) China is a totalitarian state? Maybe. I’m no totalitarianism expert like Phil or Hannah Arendt. But there’s a shitload of actual information about that, compiled by preeminent independent experts from international and domestic civil society, treaty bodies, charter bodies, and special procedures.

    https://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Indicators/Pages/HRIndicatorsIndex.aspx

    Overall, in terms of the most comprehensive world-standard measures of rights and freedoms, China and the US are about equally mediocre. They’re in the same third tier.

    Each country has different deficiencies and relative strengths.

    https://www.ohchr.org/EN/Countries/AsiaRegion/Pages/CNIndex.aspx
    https://www.ohchr.org/EN/Countries/LACRegion/Pages/USIndex.aspx

    In general, China has more respect for economic, social, and cultural rights. China and the US both shit on civil and political rights. Reasonable nations can differ on the relative importance of these rights. The second world tends to view economic rights as most fundamental, because starving people into submission is the most efficient way to control them. The US blithely starves and beggars its dissidents into submission, but that has passed the point of diminishing returns so there’s also a lot of police murder, torture, and arbitrary detention – systematic and widespread derogations of non-derogable rights, that is, crimes against humanity.

    So maybe we could lighten up on the labels if we looked at some like facts, ya know? So if China is a totalitarian state, the US is one too, just slightly more repressive and much more pervasively cruel, inhuman, and degrading.

    (2) China is out to supplant the United States as the world’s superpower?

    You can only maintain that by ignoring what China says (and does,) and pulling the inmost secret soul of China out of your ass. CPC policy is explicitly set out in its Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence. They’re straight out of the UN Charter, with one addition: equality and mutual benefit. So this supplanting superpower business is US doctrinal neurosis you’re projecting on the world. China will naturally be the world’s preponderant nation because it’s large and populous with a state of consistent integrity. It is not a criminal enterprise like the US government, so it won’t do what the US does with power-to. It’s not obsessed with power-over.

    • Thanks: Iris
  125. Ugetit says:

    The head of the FBI Christopher Wray has described Beijing as the “greatest long term threat” to the future of the United States…

    The guy is obviously either a complete moron, a useful idiot, or both.

    The enemy is within and has been for a long time, and it’s never been too difficult to discern who they are. Father Coughlin and Joe McCarthy were two who had a clue.

  126. Well, at least two sides are agreed on one Truth: Jews are holy, and if Jews say blacks are sacred and homos are wonderful, then all must agree.

  127. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Absolutely no one in ‘Washington’ was in accord with Trump’s views on China until 2016, and even most holders of a college degree did not vote for Trump.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made important speeches in 2010-2011 directed to the Washingont foreign policy establishment signalling the US “pivot to Asia” to challenge China:

    “America’s Pacific Century”

    https://2009-2017.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2011/11/176999.htm

    “America’s Engagement in the Asia-Pacific”

    https://2009-2017.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2010/10/150141.htm

    This wasn’t populist rhetoric aimed for the domestic electorate as Trump would later employ, but in effect a formal declaration to the Washington foreign policy elite and insiders announcing the new consensus on China. Behind the scenes, the TPP agreement was being worked on, and Hillary Clinton was using less diplomatic and more bellicose rhetoric about the US’s new aggressive stance towards China as Wikileaks would reveal. President Obama’s base was primarily black and other non-whites concerned mainly with petty domestic concerns and hostility towards whites. Populist rhetoric about China would be largely politically irrelevant to them. Populist rhetoric about a rising non-white state does work with the GOP’s white base, as Trump understood. But Trump did not introduce a new consensus. Rather a new consensus on China was cemented by Obama and Hillary in the wake of the Great Financial Crisis/Recession which exposed declining US relative power and overextension in the Mideast.

    US strategy for economic engagement with China was supposed to be to keep China stuck in the middle income trap until it aged into decline. China was supposed to make cheap stuff at low wages for Wall St. profits and never move up the value chain. But then it made explicit its plans to avoid the middle income trap and move up the value chain with “Made in China 2025” and “Belt and Road”. And Xi purged Chinese officials willing to accommodate the US and go along with the middle income trap/cheap labor source for the US arrangement. And China began to show signs of moving up the value chain with companies like Huawei.

    So now the US economic aim is to try to gradually “decouple” US companies from China so that US business interests have less or no skin in the game in a war with China. This is accompanied by the US promoting US companies and business interests that will benefit from war with China, which would be not just the obvious ones like defense contractors, but increasingly companies in tech that compete with Chinese companies in markets around the world. As decoupling increases, there will be greater buy in from the US business community for war with China.

  128. geokat62 says:

    Notice a trend, goy?

    • Thanks: Iris
  129. Anarchist says:

    This is false balancing. Don’t pretend that there is something to be said for ‘freedom’ on the one hand and ‘government interference’ on the other. The results of the one approach over the other are plain to see: we don’t have to speculate; we can look at the death toll and economic disruption in countries all around the world.

    On the one hand, we have countries which tried to follow WHO guidelines more or less properly: New Zealand, Vietnam, China, South Korea, Germany, and so on. These have death tolls ranging from very low to moderate, and they have already reopened their economies, minimising both the economic disruption and the death tolls. This was the rational approach.

    On the other hand, we have countries which didn’t follow WHO guidelines until the death and economic disruption became too damaging to ignore, at which point they started reluctantly to take some actions, all the while objecting and crying to the free market gods to save them. These countries include Brazil, Mexico, the UK, and, top of the list for worst response and worst results, the US. This was the irrational, incompetent response.

    Neoliberal bullshit has reduced two of the most advanced countries in the world to tinpot dictator country level.

    If there’s a fire in the house, you all work together to put it out; you don’t sit around debating whether or not passing a water bucket will impinge on your freedom.

  130. @geokat62

    “Rick Wiles dropping truth bombs for his religious followers.”

    In my experience, Rick and Susan Wiles are morons.

    While Rick has done some good work IMO (e.g. his exposé on the USS Liberty), he’s not a deep thinker and is easily fooled. He vacillates on Trump and contradicts himself, and it seems he must surround himself with people who always agree with him (Doc Burkhart and Edward Szall).

    The Wiles seem narrow-minded and prideful and generally not open criticism no matter how polite and well founded, and they increasingly resort to deleting comments and banning anyone who disagrees with their views.

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  131. geokat62 says:
    @Harold Smith

    In my experience, Rick and Susan Wiles are morons.

    Moron? I think your assessment is a bit harsh. Anyone who is brave enough to call out Jewish Supremacy is brilliant in my books.

  132. In my experience, Rick and Susan Wiles are morons.

    Moron? I think your assessment is a bit harsh. Anyone who is brave enough to call out Jewish Supremacy is brilliant in my books.

    Brave perhaps, but “brilliant” they aren’t. They may “call out Jewish Supremacy” yet they apparently don’t understand it.

    Have you ever had any discussions with them? I have, and that’s when I realized that they’re no different than any of the other “internet preachers” out there who shoot from the hip and are never wrong about anything (even when they contradict themselves), and who will not tolerate a different opinion no matter how persuasive and politely proffered.

    Long after it was clear that Trump was doing evil and was working for jewish-supremacist interests, not American interests, and Rick was uncritically supporting him 24/7, I got into a polite discussion on the subject of Trump vis-a-vis Biblical prophecy (I think with Rick by way of Susan) and at one point she just got nasty and abruptly ended the discussion.

    And not long after that Susan banned me for merely agreeing with the comment of another person who pointed out that Rick was contradicting himself on something.

    I haven’t paid much attention to them lately but it looks like Rick is now saying he’s “convinced” that “China deliberately released SARS-CoV-2 to deliberately destroy the West” or something like that. I’m sorry but only a delusional moron would make that kind of a defamatory statement, under the circumstances; there’s no polite way to say it.

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  133. The story reveals how all of the contradictory testimony was fundamentally dishonest, in that each participant was interpreting events to support his or her self-interest in the outcome of the tragedy.

    Actually, the Rashomon Effect is a misconception. What is truly strange about the story, especially the literary work, is that each of the telling is a confession or self-incrimination.

    The bandit says he killed the samurai. The wife says she killed her husband, the samurai. And the samurai, speaking through a shaman, says he killed himself. At yet, in blaming themselves, each is trying to protect his/her own honor, and in that sense, they are all telling the ‘same’ tale.

    Bandit faces execution but can die with the pride of having beaten a samurai in a fair fight.

    The wife says she was raped by the bandit, but her husband blamed her. Wronged by both bandit and husband, she lost her mind and killed her husband.

    The husband says the bandit humiliated him but then the wife abandoned him. Thus, being wronged by both bandit and wife, he felt great shame and could only kill himself as an act of honor.

    Thus, Rashomon isn’t really about he said/she said. In the case of politics, each side accuses the other side while pretending to be blameless. In RASHOMON, what we have is self-incrimination as means of salvaging one’s honor in the face of death. It’s more psychological than moral or political.

    • Agree: Happy Tapir
  134. geokat62 says:
    @Harold Smith

    They may “call out Jewish Supremacy” yet they apparently don’t understand it.

    Notwithstanding all of your criticisms, I still think Rick Wiles and TruNews are doing outstanding work disabusing millions of duped xian zionists, who have been deceived in believing the lies spouted in Cyrus Scofield‘s reference bible – e.g., that Israel is a light unto the nations… and that Hashem would bless those who bless Israel.

    Scofield and his Bible were promoted by Samuel Untermeyer, a wealthy Jew.

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  135. geokat62 says:

    I learned something new today, about the identity of the perpetrator who assissinated an American presidential candidate…

  136. geokat62 says:

    • Thanks: Iris
  137. @geokat62

    I used to listen to Trunews broadcasts and I understand where you’re coming from, but I think the bad things now far outweigh the good.

    As I see it, if Rick Wiles continues to make absurd claims (e.g. China and the democrats did SARS-CoV-2 or whatever); to espouse contradictory views; to disallow other opinions; and to show clear political bias (in the face of evil being done by BOTH parties); Trunews will be seen as just another cult and will lose all credibility (if that hasn’t happened already). In which case it won’t matter what he says about the USS Liberty, Jewish supremacy, the Scofield Bible, etc.

  138. geokat62 says:

    Rick Wiles calling out Antifa as a Jewish-funded terrorist organization…

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  139. geokat62 says:

    Rick Wiles and TruNews dropping more devastating truth bombs…

    EVANGELICALS FOR HIRE: ISRAEL PAID U.S. CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS TO PUSH PROPAGANDA:

    https://www.trunews.com/stream/evangelicals-for-hire-israel-paid-u-s-christian-zionists-to-push-propaganda

    Description:

    Today on TruNews we discuss the evidence released by the Israeli government that John Hagee’s Christians United For Israel (CUFI) and Laurie Cardoza-Moore’s Proclaim Justice to the Nations (PJTN) operated as foreign agents of influence. We pose the question about whether they, and others listed in the documents, have registered their activities with the U.S. State Department, as required by law.

    Excerpt of Intro:

    An explosive journalistic investigation in Israel has uncovered that Benjamin Netanyahu’s far right Likud government has paid millions of US dollars to organizations in the United States, including major Christian Zionists to lobby for Israel’s foreign policy objectives. It is illegal for American citizens, companies, or organizations to lobby on behalf of a foreign government in the USA, without registering at the State Department as a foreign lobbyist. If convicted, violators can be fined up to $250,000 and imprisoned for up to five years. The investigation was conducted by Seventh Eye, an Israeli investigative magazine devoted to journalism, media, freedom of speech, and transparency.

  140. geokat62 says:

  141. @obwandiyag

    More like:

    An [African-]American soldiersailorairman whatever rapes an Okinawan woman every single one of the 365 1/4 days a year

    ftfy

    Still a gross exaggeration as far as frequency, of course — but at least a little bit more accurate characterization of the underlying issue…

    The trend goes all the way back to the famous “Cave of the Negroes” incident right after the war:

    Wiki
    Sulzberger Blog

    Or perhaps those those poor Marines of color (MOCs) were entirely innocent, and those “White Supreeemist” Japanese just lynched them out of sheer hatred for the color of the skin? Yeah, that must be it…

    More recently, the 1995 Okinawa rape incident:

    “The 1995 Okinawa rape incident took place on September 4, 1995, when three African-American U.S. servicemen, U.S. Navy Seaman Marcus Gill and U.S. Marines Rodrico Harp and Kendrick Ledet, who were all serving at Camp Hansen on Okinawa, rented a van and kidnapped a 12-year-old Okinawan girl. ”

    Then there was Kenneth Franklin Gadson aka Kenneth Franklin Shinzato. The linked piece shows pics of the victim and of the protests, but no pics of Gadson. Hmm… But you can find Gadson’s photo elsewhere:

    Though you do get the occasional White (or mestizo) rapist, Negroes predominate. The media narrative (deliberately) makes it difficult to discern this from casual inspection, mostly by the simple technique of refusing to show photos/ video of the perpetrators. Sometimes information on race can be found in other sources, but it’s not always easy. Just try to find photos of the Marines charged in this case, for example.

    Apparently American Negroes weren’t committing enough violent crimes in Japan, so now we’re sending straight-up African Blacks there to pump up the numbers:
    “Olatunbosun Ugbogu, a 22-year-old Nigerian national serving in the U.S. Navy, was arrested on murder and robbery charges.”

    Oy vey

  142. @American Citizen 2.0

    The “great” thing that “people” have demonstrated over the last few months is that civil disobedience can work…

    An excellent illustration of how cargo cults function. Thanks.

    Of course, more rational people would phrase your ludicrously ill-informed statement in a slightly different form:
    “The great thing that the corporate media have demonstrated over the past few months is that morons will mindlessly parrot any hegemonic narrative that is heavily backed by corporate oligarchs and the rest of the establishment… while still managing to convince themselves that the protagonists of that narrative constitute a ‘grass roots’/ ‘spontaneous’/ ‘organic’ movement that is somehow ‘forcing’ those elites to promote their narrative.”

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