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The spread of the coronavirus has meant that much of the other news about developments around the world has disappeared from the normal news cycle. The situation in Syria, which involves not only the government in Damascus but also Turkey, Russia, Iran and a remaining American force in part of the country has been proving increasingly unstable. Russian President Vladimir Putin has met face-to-face with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to come up with a de-escalation plan that would avoid any head-to-head confrontation. An agreement was reached that included a cease fire, which most observers are describing as a surrender by Erdogan that accepted all Russian-Syrian army gains in the Idlib Province, but it remains to be seen what exactly will be sustainable. There have been subsequent reports that have include claims of the downing of two Syrian aircraft and several helicopters.

The United States for its part has been sending mixed messages to appeals from the Turks for support. Donald Trump has had an on and off again relationship with Erdogan and he has more-or-less approved the Turkish presence in the border areas and continues to endorse something like regime change in Damascus. Though it seems that at least for the moment the danger of a major armed conflict between Russia and Turkey has faded, many believe that more incidents are likely and could easily escalate.

And there is a truly dangerous connection in that Turkey and the United States are, of course, members of NATO. Under Article 5 of the NATO treaty, an attack on any one member is considered to be the same as an attack on all members and all members must respond by coming to the defense of the victim of the attack. Turkey has asked the United States for Patriot missiles to defend its troops on the ground in Syria. It has also called for NATO to enforce a no-fly zone in Idlib Province, air space that is currently controlled by Russia. Omer Celik, speaking for Erdogan’s Justice and Development Party, said that in his government’s view “The attack against Turkey is an attack against NATO. NATO should have been with Turkey, not starting today but from before these events.” Washington, for its part, has reportedly offered to provide Patriot batteries if the Turks do not deploy their recently purchased Russian built S-400 missiles. Trump has otherwise deferred to the Europeans for any direct assistance and NATO has not entertained seriously any no-fly commitment.

Under normal circumstances and in a normal world, the very idea that a member of a defensive alliance should be able to attack another country, as Turkey has done in Syria, and then demand assistance from other members of the alliance when the attacked country fights back would be a non-starter. But the problem with that kind of rational thinking is that NATO has long since ceased to be a defensive alliance. Both as an alliance and also acting through several of its member states, it has been actively involved in wars that have nothing to do with defense of Europe or of the Atlantic relationship with Washington. NATO troops are currently in Afghanistan and have also been in Iraq, Syria and Libya. Alliance members including the U.S. fought in Bosnia and Kosovo.

And there are the usual head cases on the American side also demanding action against Russia and Syria. Senator Marco Rubio of Florida tweeted that “The prospects of a direct military confrontation between Turkey & Russia in Syria are very high & increasing by the hour… [Erdogan] is on the right side here. Putin & Assad are responsible for this horrific humanitarian catastrophe.”

The American ambassador to NATO Kay Bailey Hutchison told reporters “This is a big development, and our alliance is with Turkey, it is not with Russia. We want Turkey to understand that we are the ones that they’ve been allied with.”

The United States has further complicated the game through a recent visit made by the entourages of two senior U.S. officials who visited Syria’s Idlib on March 3rd and pledged $108 million aid for Syrian civilians, hours after Turkey downed its second Syrian warplane in the province. Who exactly would receive the money and how it would be distributed was, inevitably, not immediately clear.

The two diplomats slipped over the border from Turkey with the connivance of Ankara and several Syrian “resistance” groups. They conspicuously met with the so-called White Helmets, a group that claims to be involved in nonpartisan humanitarian rescue missions but which really is affiliated with terrorists, most notably the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), which is affiliated with al-Qaeda. HTS is the principal terrorist group operating in Idlib.

The group of American diplomats was headed by U.S. representative to the United Nations Kelly Craft, along with U.S. Special Envoy for Syria James Jeffrey. It was the first visit by American diplomats to Idlib. Craft announced that the aid package was for “the people of Syria in response to the ongoing crisis caused by Assad regime, Russian, and Iranian forces”. Jeffrey struck a more directly belligerent pose, saying that Washington would be providing ammunition in addition to the humanitarian assistance. “Turkey is a NATO ally. Much of the military uses American equipment. We will make sure that equipment is ready and usable.”

U.S. policy in Syria serves no American interest, but both Craft and Jeffrey are well known to be in the pocket of Israel. Craft, a big time GOP donor, who, in her fifteen months spent as Ambassador to Canada was remarkable for flying back to the U.S. from Ottawa 128 times, 70 of which were to her home in Kentucky. All on the government dime even though she is an extremely wealthy woman.

Craft left Canada when she replaced the arch Zionist Nikki Haley at the U.N. She emphasized in her confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that she would “fight against anti-Israel resolutions and actions by the U.N. and its affiliated agencies.” She also “made a case for America returning to a leading role at Turtle Bay [the U.N.] as a way of protecting Israel… Without U.S. leadership, our partners and allies would be vulnerable to bad actors at the U.N. This is particularly true in the case of Israel, which is the subject of unrelenting bias and hostility in U.N. venues. The United States will never accept such bias, and if confirmed I commit to seizing every opportunity to shine a light on this conduct, call it what it is, and demand that these outrageous practices finally come to an end.”

Jeffrey is even more the zealot. His full title is as United States Special Representative for Syria Engagement and the Special Envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIL. He is, generally speaking, a hardliner politically, closely aligned with Israel and regarding Iran as a hostile destabilizing force in the Middle East region. He was between 2013 and 2018 Philip Solondz distinguished fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a think tank that is a spin-off of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). He is currently a WINEP “Outside Author” and go-to “expert.”

Professor John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen Walt, academic dean at Harvard University ‘s Kennedy School of Government, describe WINEP as “part of the core” of the Israel Lobby in the U.S. They examined the group on pages 175-6 in their groundbreaking book The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy and concluded as follows:

“Although WINEP plays down its links to Israel and claims that it provides a ‘balanced and realistic’ perspective on Middle East issues, this is not the case. In fact, WINEP is funded and run by individuals who are deeply committed to advancing Israel’s agenda … Many of its personnel are genuine scholars or experienced former officials, but they are hardly neutral observers on most Middle East issues and there is little diversity of views within WINEP’s ranks.”

Jeffrey set the tone for his term of office shortly after being appointed by President Trump back in August 2018 when he argued that the Syrian terrorists were “. . . not terrorists, but people fighting a civil war against a brutal dictator.” Jeffrey, who must have somehow missed a lot of the head chopping and rape going on, subsequently traveled to the Middle East and stopped off in Israel to meet Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. It has been suggested that Jeffrey received his marching orders during the visit.

So, Trump bleats incessantly about how he wants to withdraw the U.S. from the senseless wars that it has been drawn into but at the same time his State Department sends two Zionist hardliners to Syria on a semi-secret mission to support a policy of regime change in Damascus while also providing aid that will inevitably fall into the pockets of an al-Qaeda linked terrorist group. And ammunition will also be forthcoming for the invading Turks to shoot Syrians, Russians and Iranians. If anyone is seriously interested in what is wrong with U.S. foreign policy, the activity of Craft and Jeffrey might serve as a decent case study on how not to do it. Unless, of course, the actual objective is to screw things up and involve the United States in quarrels that it could easily avoid.

(Republished from American Herald Tribune by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Surtr says:

    Found this here on Unz, but I can not find the comment now to quote it. Sorry to the person that quoted this first.

    Unlikely to see discussion of this in the mainstream news.

    Putin said at the G20 summit that Russia has presented examples of terrorism financing by individual businessmen from 40 countries, including from member states of the G20.
    https://sputniknews.com/politics/201511161030199114-isil-financing-g20-putin/

    ~Surtr

  2. “The spread of the coronavirus has meant that much of the other news about developments around the world has disappeared from the normal news cycle.”
    This is dangerous, because around us things become “increasingly unstable”. The pandemic may be leading us into a dark place, a place darker than the disease itself: world war three.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  3. Under normal circumstances and in a normal world,…

    You are showing your age Mr. Giraldi. There hasn’t been a “normal world” for over 25 years. NATO needed a raison d’être, so it became the NWO/Globalist pit bull, starting with encouraging, then participating in, the breakup of the former Yugoslavia. It’s been all downhill ever since.

    • Agree: FB
  4. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    When you have Christian Zionist zealots that Tubby the Grifter has hired to staff his administration–like the pompous ass Pompeo–and die-hard Zionist Jews, like his SENIOR advisor Jared the Slumlord, making all of the decisions, you’re going to have a malevolent policy towards anyone Israel wants destroyed and anyone who helps them, like Russia.

    Don’t know who’s crazier, the Christian Zionists that pray for a vast conflict that will kill off billions, so their Jeebus can Rapture them up to Heaven–guess CZ’s don’t have to obey the 6th Commandment–or the equally crazy Zionist Jews, especially the likes of Kushner, who belongs to the Jew cult of Chabad Lubavitcher, who also pray for Armageddon.

    And us sane people are trapped in the middle.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Lot
  5. Lot says:
    @Greg Bacon

    I am a Christian Zionist, and only a minority of us, not including me, believe in the “Rapture” interpretation of the Book of Revelation.

    I don’t think this belief is unreasonable, just not as well-supported as others.

    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @FB
    , @Moi
  6. CorVir may light the fuse that blows up Iran.

    If Napoleon the Plump sees his poll numbers dropping due to Corona mismanagement and contagion, he may attack Iran as the most immediate remedy.

    War is a politician’s best friend.

  7. NPleeze says:

    and all [NATO] members must respond by coming to the defense of the victim of the attack

    Good article, but this is blatantly false.

    Quoting from the first (and only relevant) paragraph of Article 5:

    The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

    The three highlighted portions:

    1) Syria is obviously neither in Europe nor North America
    2) Each country is only required to take what action it deems necessary, which can very easily be nothing.
    3) The end goal is restoring and maintaining the security of the North Atlantic area, of which Syria is not a part (and in any case NATO involvement would have quite the opposite effect of “restoring” or “maintaining” security, see #2 above.

    • Replies: @Paw
  8. NPleeze says:
    @Lot

    You are a ZioNazi, nothing Christian about you, you worship Yahweh the Satan god. You will surely go to hell you evil barbaric savage.

  9. A couple of important truths to take away here:

    “Under normal circumstances and in a normal world, the very idea that a member of a defensive alliance should be able to attack another country, as Turkey has done in Syria, and then demand assistance from other members of the alliance when the attacked country fights back would be a non-starter.

    “But the problem with that kind of rational thinking is that NATO has long since ceased to be a defensive alliance. Both as an alliance and also acting through several of its member states, it has been actively involved in wars that have nothing to do with defense of Europe or of the Atlantic relationship with Washington”

    NATO now serves as a cover for plausibly “internationalizing” America’s imperial aggressions almost anywhere, the US having no interest in genuine international institutions like the UN.

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2018/07/13/john-chuckman-comment-trump-walk-away-from-nato-why-it-will-not-happen-even-if-he-has-the-authority-which-is-not-clear-natos-changed-purposes-serve-american-interests-so-why-shouldnt-it-pay/

    “U.S. policy in Syria serves no American interest, but both Craft and Jeffrey are well known to be in the pocket of Israel.”

    Indeed, just as is the case for the entire set of Neocon Wars.

    And there’s Trump, violating every anti-war view he spoke to in his 2016 campaign.

    And why is he doing that? To fill his coffers to overflowing for the 2020 campaign.

    It really is America’s own fault that its foreign policy literally is for sale .

    And his rather sad herd of base supporters don’t even seem to get it.

  10. Ma Laoshi says:

    All nice and well, except for the term “blunder” in the title. Russia bombed a convoy, apparently thinking it consisted of jihadists only. When it turned out there were a few dozen TAF regulars among them, Putin immediately crawled under the bed as he is wont to do from time to time, standing down Russian air defenses for a couple precious days. Sadly, it seems he needs to be reminded regularly that he’s in this with allies who rely on Russia doing its job for their survival.

    Seeing how the Teddybear once again took time off to decide which side it’s on, of course the hyenas make their move to capitalize on the perceived weakness of their enemy. The US understands the importance of perceptions and ideas, so it makes a show of undermining the legitimacy of the Syrian state and the Assad govt by moving its officials in and out of Idlib at will. Contrast how any Russian who’d violate the self-proclaimed American “red line” around say al-Tanf would immediately get pulverized. Contrast also how Putin thinks nothing of speaking on behalf of Syria as if he owns it already, playing along with the US/IL narrative that the Damascus Govt doesn’t count any more.

    Are the Yanks brazen, vicious? You bet. Reckless? Probably. But they know exactly what they’re doing, there are no “blunders” here. Sure none of this benefits the American people, but who cares if they vote for it anyway. Ultimately, however, this mess is owned by Putin, who invited the Turks into Syria.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @FB
  11. anon[119] • Disclaimer says:

    And his rather sad herd of base supporters don’t even seem to get it.

    I get it, John Chuckman.

    Representative government is all about choices,
    and I’m exercising options.

    Enclosed please find $100 toward the John Chuckman presidential campaign on the Republican ticket.

    There.

    Problem solved.

  12. Jewish supremacists and cucks are vermin.

  13. Here is another point to note from M. K. Bhadrakumar:

    https://indianpunchline.com/why-turkey-wont-hitch-syrian-wagon-with-us/

    Meanwhile, US-Turkey relations may become toxic what with the US prosecutors in New York asking a federal judge on January 21 to impose escalating fines on Turkey’s state-owned Halkbank for failing to respond in court to criminal charges that it helped Iran evade US sanctions. The proposed fines on the bank is a $1 million-per-day fine – a penalty that would double for each week of further non-compliance. It could total $1.8 billion after eight weeks.

    The case against Halkbank has been a longstanding point of tension in the increasingly fraught relationship between Ankara and Washington. Some analysts estimate that it is the single most explosive issue that could blow up the Turkish-American relationship.

    If Halkbank decides to acquiesce and appear in court, the case will tarnish the reputation of the Erdogan government. The case implicates senior Turkish ministers, top Halkbank executives and even Erdogan and his family members as beneficiaries of the sanctions-busting efforts.

    On the other hand, if the Halkbank insists on its civil contempt of court, that might ultimately severe its ties with the US financial system, hurting not only the bank but also Turkey’s financial sector, and send Turkish-American relations into a free fall.

    Can the Trump administration intervene in the Halkbank case and rescue Erdogan? That likelihood can also be ruled out in the downstream of the reported allegation by former NSA in the White House John Bolton in his upcoming memoirs that Trump who has a property in Turkey was inclined to grant favours to Erdogan.

  14. @Ma Laoshi

    The Turks (and the US) have been in Syria, in one way, shape, or form, since 2011. The Russians only made it official for the Turks/Erdogan, who could then be exposed for what they/he were. It’s a give them enough rope scenario.
    As for Russia mistakenly bombing a convoy, Russia is in Syria at the request of the Syrian government and acts in concert with that government. Sometimes mistakes are made. On the other hand, the US, going back to WWII when it bombed Switzerland, kills innocents on a regular basis and pronounces it was justified in doing so.
    Russia will do what is good for Russia. The US and the rest of the (((Western liberal democracies))) will do what Israel tells them to do, whether it is good for them or not.

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
  15. Ma Laoshi says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Always happy to debate these things, but on some issues we may have to agree-to-disagree.

    The Russians only made it official for the Turks/Erdogan

    … and this is one of them. ‘course Turkey has been involved in this jihadist proxy assault since the beginning, and for just that reason the Turks shouldn’t have been invited in. Now there are large numbers of TAF regulars in Idlib, and they brought the big guns plus MANPADs with them. This is what the West always does: identify a real problem, and then take license to make it much worse. But yes, I agree that Russia likes to legitimize the illegal adventures of its enemies; now tell me if there has been any benefit from that, or rather, who benefits from it. The more Russia keeps looking for Western approval, the more it fuels the perception that the Russkies can be bullied without consequence.

    who could then be exposed for what they/he were

    A standard Russian talking point. “Exposed”: exposed where? Contrary to popular billing, the Kremlin controls none of the media that matter. Also, expose what? The Dark Throne boasts about “lying, cheating, stealing”; Trump knows that every pro-wrestling show needs a heel–he’s a better match for the “madman theory” than Nixon ever was, happy to let his foes worry that he’s capable of anything. No, the Empire flaunts its evil, it likes to be feared.

    Russia is in Syria at the request of the Syrian government

    Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. My problem was not with bombing a couple Turks–at least not with the ones that barged into someone else’s country. My issue was with the Kremlin’s panicky reaction to having done so apparently unintentionally, to the point of forgetting there were allies to be defended.

    Russia will do what is good for Russia

    Another beloved (pro-)Russian talking point, and I get it. But as long as you are on Syrian soil, shouldn’t it matter first what is good for Syria? Giving pieces of Idlib and Aleppo to appease the mercurial Erdogan–well, we see the consequences for Syria in front of our eyes. If Russia were to use Syria for its own benefit, how is that different from the Dark Throne using Korea or Honduras for its own benefit? How can we condemn the one and not the other?

    • Replies: @Denis
  16. We need to expel Turkey from NATO (better still would be for the US to unilaterally leave) and give Erdo an ultimatum on the migrant invasion of Europe. Stop it or we’ll have the CIA take you out, and this time we won’t fail.

  17. Paw says:
    @NPleeze

    I believe this does not stop them /NATO/ from the war. Nothing will.
    When terrorists are not terrrorist, then who did 9.11 ?
    Neocons and now Eurocons together..

  18. Denis says:
    @Ma Laoshi

    Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. My problem was not with bombing a couple Turks–at least not with the ones that barged into someone else’s country. My issue was with the Kremlin’s panicky reaction to having done so apparently unintentionally, to the point of forgetting there were allies to be defended.

    Why would Russia take responsibility for the bombing if it were not necessary? Obviously igniting a war with NATO is not worth it just to prove a point, especially when the point had already been made.

    Another beloved (pro-)Russian talking point, and I get it. But as long as you are on Syrian soil, shouldn’t it matter first what is good for Syria? Giving pieces of Idlib and Aleppo to appease the mercurial Erdogan–well, we see the consequences for Syria in front of our eyes. If Russia were to use Syria for its own benefit, how is that different from the Dark Throne using Korea or Honduras for its own benefit? How can we condemn the one and not the other?

    I agree to an extent, and I pointed this out a while ago on one of Shamir’s articles. It was never a good idea to attempt a partnership with Erdogan’s government. However, it does make sense that Russia would view a general assault against the Turks in Syria as a last resort. Turkey has been brazen in using NATO membership as a shield for their aggression, and this would not be the first time that NATO obliged them. It seems that Russia wants to give Erdogan enough room to evacuate from Syria without a fight before trying to force him out.

    Although I do agree that a more forceful stance would be beneficial to Russia and Syria, I do not think this particular instance is a supporting example. After the Russian bombing, the Turks immediately declared that they would prepare for a general war, and call in NATO support. However, NATO support was not forthcoming. After this, they began walking back their statements and restarted negotiations with Russia. So if the purpose of the bombing was to ward off a Turkish invasion and allow the Syrian government to recover some territory, then it seems this purpose was accomplished, whereas a more violent response from Russia may not have had the desired effect.

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
  19. FB says: • Website
    @Lot

    The ridiculous hasbara troll ‘Blot’ claims…

    ‘I am a Christian Zionist’…

    Sure…and I’m the Ghost of Christmas Past…

    Look Blot…everybody here knows you are a paid shill, most likely in the employ of the Jewish Internet Defense League…

    You have over TEN THOUSAND comments…you are regularly the first in line to comment AGAINST articles that are even remotely anti-Zionist…

    No ordinary person would possibly have the time nor inclination to patrol this website in such a zealous fashion…you are simply a useless troll that continues to take up bandwidth here…

    Btw…I had the misfortune to be born into an Evangelical Christian family and I know this world very very well…you do not fit the profile in any way…so on top of being a troll you try to misrepresent yourself here…even Christian Zionists have good, albeit misguided, folks among them…you are simply a smelly rat…

    • Agree: Pat Kittle
  20. FB says: • Website
    @Ma Laoshi

    Look you complete idiot…

    I usually try not to engage flatulent fools like yourself who constantly bitch and moan about Putin being ‘soft’…you are obviously not up to speed on the war situation in Syria…

    And what makes you qualified to speak on military matters in the first place…the fact that you have a very loud whooppee cushion…?

    The much-ballyhooed temporary pause in Russian air support in Idlib, right after all those Turkish troops were cut down was not in any way some kind of softness on the part of Putin…in hindsight, after the Moscow summit where Erdogan was forced to concede all the gains made by the SAA [more than half of the Idlib pocket liberated since December]…plus agree to opening of the M4 highway, pulling back the ‘rebels’ by 12 km, and joint patrols…it’s abundantly clear that the pause was a very shrewd diplomatic move by Putin to allow Erdogan to save face and come to the table…

    Every professional military man, starting with Sun Tzu, will tell you that it is much more preferable to win the battle without firing a shot…that’s what Russian diplomacy accomplishes time after time…

    Of course complete blockheads like you cannot understand these things, anymore than my cat can understand the Second Law of Thermodynamics…

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
  21. Ma Laoshi says:
    @Denis

    Why would Russia take responsibility for the bombing if it were not necessary?

    Again this is not the point I was trying to make–which may of course mean I wasn’t making my point clearly. No there was no need to gloat about the bombing–there’ll be plenty of that anyway as long as Uncle Sam is in da house. Deniability and all that has its place in prudent statecraft. My objection is solely with Russia’s immediate, unilateral standing down without even notifying one’s putative brothers-in-arms, leaving the latter to be droned to dust by the Turks, who always are a bit more effective than their reputation. Anyway, major powers don’t cover themselves in ash in public, but by the Kremlin’s actions since then they seem to have understood that this was a huge blunder. So we can hopefully move on–except for all those SAA dead which will never come back.

    Although I do agree that a more forceful stance would be beneficial to Russia and Syria

    Maybe we can agree that Putin is foremost a wheeler-dealer, not the Man of Steel he’s made out to be–ironically by both his supporters and his fiercest detractors. Personally I think a quick slap on the Turkish wrist much earlier would’ve sorted them out, and would’ve reduced the chances of a major clash with Turkey or God forbid NATO. But VVP is not that guy; we’ll have to see how his wheeling and dealing will work out, have to give him he’s patient at it.

    • Replies: @FB
  22. Moi says:
    @Lot

    So as CZ you believe your Jew bros have the right to someone else’s land? That’s nuts!

  23. FB says: • Website
    @Ma Laoshi

    My objection is solely with Russia’s immediate, unilateral standing down without even notifying one’s putative brothers-in-arms, leaving the latter to be droned to dust by the Turks, who always are a bit more effective than their reputation.

    What a complete moron…

    The ‘droned to dust’ narrative is complete bullshit…

    And if the Turks were so ‘effective’ then why were they unable to take and hold the key town of Saraqib…?

    Like I pointed out already, you know absolute zilch about the Syria war…a flaming ignoramus…have a look at this map bonehead…

    Turkish officials, state media and affilated propaganda organizations appear to be trying to paint Ankara’s Operation Spring Shield in the Syrian region of Greater idlib as a ‘successful move’ that achieved all ‘declared goals’.

    So, this is a short reminder what goals Turkey declared and what it achieved employing its Armed Forces in an open military aggression against Syria.

    –Turkey’s Operation Spring Shield: Declarations Vs Reality (Map Update)

    As for the drone propaganda…the very small drones that Turkey possesses are powered by ultralight aircraft engines of 100 hp and can carry only very small munitions…these are not any kind of ‘game-changers’ as I have discussed in some depth elsewhere on this website…

    Only a complete know-nothing would continue at this point regurgitating some bullshit narrative about the ‘killer’ drones…

    Besides these simple aeronautical facts that are well known to anyone with even bare common sense…the Turkish claims have been thoroughly exposed as totally fake…their videos so amateurishly photoshopped that it is quite laughable that any self-respecting country could be so backward…

    This article documents the Turkish drone clown show…

    In this picture of a claimed Turkish kill on a Syrian air defense truck, we see hundreds of IDENTICAL shrapnel fragments…

    Other blatant fakery included videos from Libya, not Syria…

    Your narrative is incredibly uninformed…and you are just stinking up the discussion here…

  24. Ahoy says:

    @ FB

    Remarkable accuracy in describing the current SYRIAN case. Well done!

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