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At least since the time of Marcus Tullius Cicero in the late Roman Republic everyone has certainly understood that politicians lie all the time. To be sure, President Donald Trump has been exceptional in that he has followed through on some of the promises he made in his campaign, insisting periodically that he has to do what he said he would do. Unfortunately, those choices he has made to demonstrate his accountability to his supporters have been terrible, including moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, threatening to end the Iran nuclear agreement and building a wall along the Mexican border. Following through on some other pledges has been less consistent. He has increased U.S. military engagement in Afghanistan and turned the war over to the generals while also faltering in his promise to improve relations with Russia. The potential breakthrough offered by promising exchanges during phone calls to Vladimir Putin have been negated by subsequent threats, sanctions and expulsions to satisfy hysterical congressmen and the media.

Concerning Syria, Trump last Tuesday said “I want to get out,” promising to pull U.S. troops out very soon, but was quickly brought to heel by pressure from Congress and a phone call from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that compelled him to change his mind within 24 hours. Israel wants chaos in Syria and its instrument of choice is the American military. Netanyahu has Congress to do his bidding and, for whatever reason, appears to also have Trump under his thumb.

So Donald Trump turns out to be a pretty good liar, even if one has to take into account the fact that he frequently has no idea what he is talking about. But the prize for lying at a high level has to go to the British as related to what has been going on both in the Middle East, with Russia, and also in Britain itself. Former Prime Minister Tony Blair was the first master at dissimulation in 2002 when his intelligence chief Sir Richard Dearlove told him that the Bush White House had decided on war and “the intelligence and facts were being around the policy” regarding Iraq, meaning that it was ignoring the information that did not support its desire to create a pretext for invading the country and removing Saddam Hussein. Blair presumably could have derailed the ill-fated invasion by refusing to go along with the venture, which was a war crime, but instead he fully supported George W. Bush in the attack and thereby had a hand in America’s worst foreign policy disaster ever. In 2016 an official British government inquiry determined that Bush and Blair had indeed together rushed to war. The Global Establishment has nevertheless rewarded Tony Blair for his loyalty with Clintonesque generosity. He has enjoyed a number of well-paid sinecures and is now worth in excess of $100 million.

Moving along to the present, we have Prime Minister Theresa May. May has been in serious trouble, politically speaking. After losses suffered in the recent parliamentary elections, she is clinging to power and is increasingly unpopular even within her own Conservative Party. So what do you do when you are in trouble at home? You create a foreign crisis that you have to deal with. If you are someone as venal as former American President and bottom feeder Bill Clinton you accomplish that end by firing off a few cruise missiles at a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan and at some mud huts in Afghanistan. If you are Theresa May, you up the ante considerably, coming up with a powerful enemy who is threatening you, enabling you to appear both resolute and strong in confronting a formidable foe. That is precisely what we have been seeing over the past month relating to the alleged poisoning of former Russian intelligence agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

There is quite a bit that is odd about the Skripal case. Even the increasingly neoconnish Guardian newspaper has conceded that “the British case [against Russia] has so far relied more heavily in public on circumstantial evidence and secret intelligence.” And secret intelligence, so called, has all too often been the last refuge of a scoundrel whenever a government is selling snake oil to the public. In this case, Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson rushed to judgement on Russia less than forty-eight hours after the Skripals were found unconscious on a bench in Salisbury England, too soon for any chemical analysis of the alleged poisoning to have taken place.

Theresa May addressed Parliament shortly thereafter to blame the Kremlin and demand a Russian official response to the event in 36 hours, even though she had to prevaricate significantly, saying that the apparent poisoning was “very likely” caused by a made-in-Russia nerve agent referred to by its generic name Novichok. She nevertheless rallied the backbenchers in Parliament, who responded with a lot of hearty “Hear! Hear!” endorsements. When Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn attempted to slow the express train down by suggesting that it might be wise to wait in see what the police investigation uncovered, he was hooted down. The British media was soon on board with a vengeance, spreading the government line that such a highly sensitive operation would require the approval of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin himself. The expulsion of Russian diplomats soon followed.

One of the strangest aspects of the Skripal case is what is going on now that daughter Yulia will soon be out of the hospital and Sergei is no longer in critical condition. A cousin Viktoria Skripal has offered to fly in from Moscow to provide support for her family, but it is believed that she will not be able to receive a visa from the British. Russian television aired a recording of a phone call between the two cousins in which Yulia said that she was disoriented but improving and that neither she nor her father had suffered permanent damage from the poisoning. The call ended abruptly and Viktoria Skripal believes that it was scripted by the British government on a controlled phone line.

Repeated requests by Russia to obtain a sample of the alleged nerve agent for testing have been rejected by the British government in spite of the fact that a military grade nerve agent would have surely killed both the Skripals as well as anyone else within 100 yards. As the latest British account of the location of the alleged poison places it on the door handle of the Scripals’ residence, the timetable element is also unconvincing. That means that the two would have spent three hours, including a stop at a pub and lunch, before succumbing on a park bench. Military grade nerve agents kill instantly.

A request to have the testing done by the politically neutral Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons is in progress, but there is little enthusiasm from the British side, which does not want a Russian observer to participate in the process. The May government has already established its own narrative and certainly would have plenty to hide if the whole affair turns out to be fabricated. And fabricated it might have been as the nerve agent, if it actually exists, could have been manufactured almost anywhere.

The head of Britain’s own chemical weapons facility Porton Down has contradicted claims made by May, Foreign Minister Boris Johnson, and British Ambassador in Moscow Laurie Bristow. The lab’s Chief Executive Gary Aitkenhead has testified that he does not know if the nerve agent was actually produced in Russia, a not surprising observation as the chemical formula was revealed to the public in a scientific paper in 1992 and there are an estimated twenty countries capable of producing it. There are also possible stocks of Novichok remaining in independent countries that once were part of the Soviet Union, to include Russia’s enemy du jour Ukraine, while a false flag operation by the British themselves, the CIA or Mossad, is not unthinkable.

The resort to official Orwellian govspeak by the British is remarkable throughout the process, but is particularly painful reading regarding the treatment of the Skripals’ pets, two guinea pigs and a cat. A spokesman for the Department of the Environment reported thatThe property in Wiltshire was sealed as part of the police investigation. When a vet was able to access the property, two guinea pigs had sadly died. A cat was also found in a distressed state and a decision was taken by a veterinary surgeon to euthanize the animal to alleviate its suffering. This decision was taken in the best interests of the animal and its welfare.”

So the presence of squadrons of technicians and cops in the residence did not permit anyone to take a minute to feed the cat and guinea pigs. And the cat was killed as a purely humanitarian gesture – it’s “best interest” was apparently to die. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

Finally, the best argument against the British government’s evasions about what took place in Salisbury on March 4th remains the question of motive. So the British would have one believe that Vladimir Putin personally ordered the killing of a former British double agent who had been released from a Kremlin prison in a spy swap and who was no longer capable of doing any damage to Russia. He did that in spite of the fact that he had an election coming up and would be the host of the World Cup in the summer, an event that he would want to go smoothly. So he deliberately shot himself in the foot on both counts, allegedly because he wanted to send a message to traitors and also because just can’t help himself since he is a vindictive KGB type whose impulses are pure evil. Does that make sense to the reader? It doesn’t to me.

 
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  1. Anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:

    Russia is a country of unbridled greed. An insatiable appetite for blood , land , alcohol ,and loot . Why else then does the worlds largest country need to invade and occupy more lands ? Invasion,occupation and genocide in Chechnya ? More occupation and killing in Crimea and Dagestan . Occupation and opression and turning Kaliningrad into a toxic waste dump.

    Something is fundamentally wrong with the rabid bear . Alcoholism , krokodil and heroin may mask the symptoms but we all see the utter rot in the negative birth rate , low life expectancy , high suicude rate , high homicide rate , high abortion rate and rampant alcoholism and drug addiction. The men are drunks and theives and the women are sluts .

  2. I stopped reading after the Border Wall bullshit.

  3. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    UK has come up with a Killer Joke poison.

  4. Mulegino1 says:

    A great man once wrote that the “big lie” had a force of credulity among the broad masses, as the latter were wont to engage in lying about minor quotidian matters of little or no significance while the big lies were engaged in by the mainstream press, dominated by the usual tribal suspects.

    It was the case with blaming General Ludendorff for Germany’s defeat, and it is the same case today, 100 years after the fact.

    The Mockingbird Media lies and equivocates about everything. Insofar as the deep state spider’s web of hegemony spreads all over the world and becomes more odious, the lies become more copious and more predictable, and their acceptance relies upon the lever of public credulity and kosher Newspeak.

    What the unconditional and incorrigible Trumpetistas do not realize is that those of us- a very large plurality of of Trump supporters- voted for him because he was not Hillary Clinton and had pledged to keep us out of foreign wars. We will neither support, nor abet, foreign wars for the sake of Israel, whether they are started by Trump or anyone else. Intervention in Syria against the Assad regime is a no go. Trump cannot hope to compare himself to Assad, since the latter has formed a real and effective alliance against the Christian hating head choppers with Russia and Iran. Trump is totally clueless with respect to geopolitics. He is a rank amateur.

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
  5. Does that make sense to the reader?

    No, it doesn’t.

    But here’s something else I don’t quite understand:

    To be sure, President Donald Trump has been exceptional in that he has followed through on some of the promises he made in his campaign, insisting periodically that he has to do what he said he would do. Unfortunately, those choices he has made to demonstrate his accountability to his supporters have been terrible, including moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, threatening to end the Iran nuclear agreement and building a wall along the Mexican border.

    Now, Trump is a sense-free random number generator, I will fully agree. But you list three “choices he has made” that you describe as “terrible:” the US embassy move to Jerusalem, the threats against Iran, and “building a wall along the Mexican border.” The first two Trump has done, and I agree that “terrible” is the right word to describe them. The third thing — the border wall — he hasn’t done. And had he done so, it wouldn’t have been “terrible” … it would have been the obvious and sensible thing to do. I think he clearly isn’t serious about building the wall, as far as one can discern the intentions of so random an individual. But your list presents three items in parallel, with one item being quite unlike the others.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @GourmetDan
  6. Z-man says:

    Logic escapes the rabid Neocons, anti Christian Russia crowd and their paid henchmen, or henchgirls, the likes of Linda Graham. (Grin) Unfortunatley the now feckless Trump is going to go along with this British yarn and the Neocon wish of destroying Syria.

    BTW as of this post your site has still not recovered from the cyber attack it had today.

  7. Corvinus says:

    “So the British would have one believe that Vladimir Putin personally ordered the killing of a former British double agent who had been released from a Kremlin prison in a spy swap and who was no longer capable of doing any damage to Russia. He did that in spite of the fact that he had an election coming up and would be the host of the World Cup in the summer, an event that he would want to go smoothly. So he deliberately shot himself in the foot on both counts, allegedly because he wanted to send a message to traitors and also because just can’t help himself since he is a vindictive KGB type whose impulses are pure evil. Does that make sense to the reader?”

    Absolutely. Under the Putin regime, the body count of his enemies has grown. He put the “de Thirty-four Russian journalists in the last decade just somehow “died”. Occam’s Razor applies here.

    Consider also that Putin played a major role in the Russian “Deep State”.

    windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2018/04/russia-has-deep-state-too-and-putin-has.html

  8. It makes complete sense if one simply looks at the British Establishment’s prior behavior of intentionally starting world wars at the order of the Society of the Elect. It’s all in the CFR’s archives. Their guilt in starting WW1 is emphatically admitted and documented in roughly the first 200 pages of the following book. http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/Tragedy_and_Hope.pdf
    Who is in the Society of the Elect? Read the back pages of http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/The_Anglo-American_Establishment.pdf

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  9. Anonymous[280] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s surreal to watch such staggering levels of dishonest incompetence among our globalist “elites”.

    This is worrying. Nobody is that stupid so it’s more like they don’t care about credibility going forward. Like it won’t matter.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  10. Kiza says:

    We have moved way beyond the Skripals case now. Simply put, if US shoots in Syria, Russia will shoot back this time, yes back at US. USS Donald Duck has been placed as a bait to be sent to the bottom of Mediterrenain sea by the Russians, similar to Arizona et al at Pearl Harbour.

    Many dissenter websites are currently under attack by the cyber forces of the Western regimes and Israel, one of them being this one. Another site under attack is my favorite johnhelmer.com. In addition to saying that he is under attack, the current message from John is:
    WHEN THE RULE OF LAW WAS DESTROYED IN SALISBURY, LONDON AND THE HAGUE, AND THE RULE OF FRAUD DECLARED IN WASHINGTON, THAT LEAVES ONLY THE RULE OF FORCE IN THE WORLD. THE STAVKA MET IN MOSCOW ON GOOD FRIDAY AND IS READY. THE FOREIGN MINISTRY ANNOUNCED ON SUNDAY “THE GRAVEST CONSEQUENCES”. THIS MEANS ONE AMERICAN SHOT AT A RUSSIAN SOLDIER, THEN WE ARE AT WAR. NOT INFOWAR, NOT CYBERWAR, NOT ECONOMIC WAR, NOT PROXY WAR. WORLD WAR.

    The West is utterly bankrupt, morally as well as financially and we are experiencing the Western remedial plan and actions – war!

  11. annamaria says:

    “In 2016 an official British government inquiry determined that Bush and Blair had indeed together rushed to war. The Global Establishment has nevertheless rewarded Tony Blair for his loyalty with Clintonesque generosity. He has enjoyed a number of well-paid sinecures and is now worth in excess of $100 million.”
    – The character of Blair and the Establishment is well established: Blair is a major war criminal supported by the major war profiteers. His children and grandchildren are a progeny of a horrible criminal.
    What is truly amazing is the complacency of the Roman Catholic Church that still has not excommunicated and anathematized the mass murderer. Blair should be haunted and hunted for his crimes against humanity.
    With age, Blair’s face has become expressively evil. His wife Theresa Cara “Cherie” Blair shows the same acute ugliness coming from her rotten soul of a war profiteer.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
    , @Rurik
  12. The UK is governed by the same Neo-liberal psychotic cabal that runs the US, Israel and France.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  13. The Skripals are to be disappeared. Their home, the pub and the restaurant are to be demolished. This is a Tarantino cleanup. Move on.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
  14. JR says:

    Keep in mind how long ago all this is:
    Skripal was recruited around 1990 and arrested in 2004. Guess that the Russian attitude towards Skripal took the chaos of the 90′s as mitigating circumstances into account.
    Skripal served his sentence of only 13 years till 2010 when he was pardoned and given the option to leave. Russia did not revoke Skripal’s citizenship. The UK issued Skripal a passport too. On arrival in the UK Skripak was extensively debriefed by UK intelligence services. Skripal has lived for 8 years in the UK now.

    And now out of the blue this incident nicely dovetailing with May ratcheted up anti Russia language only a few months before this false flag incident and the rapidly failing traction of the Steele/Orbis/MI6 instigated Russia collusion story on the basis of that fake Trump Dossier. By the way Orbis affiliated Steele and Miller have been among Skripal’s handlers.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  15. Eagle Eye says:

    A cousin Viktoria Skripal has offered to fly in from Moscow to provide support for her family, but it is believed that she will not be able to receive a visa from the British.

    Yulia is most likely DEAD. If she were alive, we would see interviews, pictures, etc.

    Russian television aired a recording of a phone call between the two cousins in which Yulia said that she was disoriented but improving and that neither she nor her father had suffered permanent damage from the poisoning. The call ended abruptly and Viktoria Skripal believes that it was scripted by the British government on a controlled phone line.

    Not Yulia? Or perhaps they spliced together some phrases recorded while she was still alive.

    Prediction: neither Yulia Skripal nor her father Sergei will be seen again in public.

    • Replies: @Jake
  16. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t agree at all with your opinion that the absemce of motive for Putin is the strongest
    argument against believing the British government case. Nor is it a matter within your special sphere of expertise. There are versions of
    Putin’s thinking and tactics which make quite as good an assessment as your guesses. We just don’t know and only Bletchley Park type evidence might clear it up.

    However, for the first time I have seen a just plausible suggestion that the CIA, MI6 or Mossad could be involved. That is because they are both recovering. If it is a put up job then full recovery would no doubt have been planned. And maybe Skripal is part of it too. Have you considered that?

  17. Realist says:

    Why anyone would believe anything Western governments say is beyond me.

    • Agree: Kiza
  18. Realist says:

    Why anybody would believe anything Western governments say is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Moi
  19. Good article.
    The Skipnal affair has been an utter disgrace from day one. May & Boris are a shame on the UK fully reminesent of that utter dog, Blair.
    The fact that the msm still babbles on about Russia & Skipnal is indicative of their monumental contempt for the public & factual balanced reporting….well what’s new, I guess ?

  20. From the Steele dossier lies falling apart to the Skripal lies falling apart to the ‘Assad did it’ lies falling apart:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2018/04/08/open-letter-to-die-linke/

    ^

    Paul Craig Roberts is correct when quoting The Saker:

    “The Russian view is simple: the West is ruled by a gang of thugs supported by an infinitely lying and hypocritical media while the general public in the West has been hopelessly zombified.” — The Saker

    I expect that makes the Russians right…

    • Replies: @Jake
  21. OMG says:

    These ridiculous, suicidal gas attacks by Assad seem to coincide not only with battleground victories against the head-choppers, but co-incidentally with Israel’s murderous attacks on unarmed Palestinians “throwing stones”.

    What nobody seems to have picked up is the emphasis – and red lines – on Gas; gas, gas attacks. Why is gas so much worse than being dismembered, disembowelled, and mutilated by high explosives? Certainly I would favour unconsciousness and death by gas before being smashed to pieces by depleted uranium.

    These relentlessly repeated claims are an exercise with the dual purpose of providing a subliminal message about the greatest tragedy in human history, repeated ad nauseam. The massive ‘gassing’ of European Jews some 65 years ago. Lest we forget.

  22. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:

    What makes you think the Skripals are still alive? The entire British charade stinks to high heaven.

    • Replies: @Anon
  23. Escher says:

    What is surprising is how the MSM is able to lead along so many supposedly educated people, with at least some critical thinking skills.

  24. Compared with the Litvinenko umbrella attack with its tip having been dipped in an Amazonian Indians’ style curare variant of Polonium the intelligence level of the MI6 & CIA seems to have hit the ground with the twofold miracle of the dead being raised. Now the miracles are posing a big problem for the demonizers of Russia & President Putin: how to spirit these two living & talking people away, who have returned from the dead, where they were supposed to be so safe and well for all truth-loving investigators. This whole story seems to unfold like a Jesus Christ Superstar sequel with James Bond appetizers having been added. At present the roles have been reversed: the Russians being the champions of free will and the Western intelligence services being the Joker.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
  25. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Until some kind of sanity returns to this planet and war mongering gangsters like the Bush and Clinton Mobs, Blair, Obama and a host of Pentagon generals, along with their boot-licking MSM are indicted, tried for crimes against humanity and war crimes, found guilty and sentences carried out, there will be no peace on Earth, just an endless series of False Flags, hysterical reactions by the ones who were behind the False Flags and more wars.

  26. Our new minister of foreign affairs Halbe Zijlstra had to resign after having been a month or so in office, because a newspaper exposed his 2016 lies at a meeting of Rutte, nicknamed Pinochio, for his lies, party VVD, where he told the members that he personally was present in Putin’s datcha where Putin spoke about his plans for Great Russia.
    At the time Zijlstra just was a member of the council of the town Utrecht, so a journalist wondered how he could have been there.
    He never was.
    Yet, Zijlstra did have a reputation for honesty, and is surely an intelligent man.
    Why he told such blatant lies, no idea.
    I’m old, I think politicians tell and told lies, but never I saw such distrust in nearly anything, from politicians to media, solicitors, banks, whatever, and those who want to prevent climate change.

    • Replies: @Ace
  27. @OMG

    Churchill used poison gas in Damascus in 1918.
    He defended what he did in parliament.

  28. @Jon Baptist

    Balfour already in 1907 announced war against Germany:
    Patrick J. Buchanan, ‘Churchill, Hitler and “The unnecessary war”, How Britain lost its empire and the west lost the world’, New York, 2008, Balfour, to US ambassador Henry White, 1907, page 48/ 49

    • Replies: @ANON
  29. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Because if it is a put up job by the CIA or MI6 part of the plot would have been that they weren’t actually killed. And if the perpetrators were other than those what motive would the government have for pretending they were alive?

  30. @Anonymous

    ” Why else then does the worlds largest country need to invade and occupy more lands ? Invasion,occupation and genocide in Chechnya ? More occupation and killing in Crimea and Dagestan . Occupation and opression and turning Kaliningrad into a toxic waste dump. ”

    Any proof for these assertions ?

    • Replies: @Moi
  31. It does look rather like those Syrian chemical weapon attacks that happen whenever the rebels are about to be defeated.

    I am pretty sure that it was not ordered within the British government and that most of the British government don’t know where it came from, but are willing to believe it was Russia.

    While the CIA does have plenty of form on assassinations, the risk if they were found to be assassinating in Britain seems quite high due to the close CIA links with the UK intelligence sector. But CIA agents could have paid someone else to do it.

    Mossad is the one group that can act freely in the UK, has a record of assassinating scientists, engineers etc here, and unlike CIA, can take the risk of being caught. So it’s a possibility – OTOH Israel has shown a lot less anti-Russian hatred than the US Deep State has.

    Normally I’d assume it was indeed Russia – I thought there was plenty of evidence the Polonium poisoning was Russia – and it still seems possible, but US or Mossad must be at least equally likely in this case. It’s just possible it could have been British initiated but I doubt it.

    I do think it’s most likely the person who actually poisoned them was not an employee of any agency.

  32. Mike P says:

    Toward the end, Giraldi stumbles upon the Brits’ true motive for cooking up this affair, the upcoming soccer World Cup, but he does not fully explore it.

    The clue is in the history of abysmal failure of the English teams at those World Cups. As the supposed motherland of soccer, the British have lost face, and they simply can’t stomach the prospect of another ignominious first-round exit. So, what to do? Simple – create a pretext for “boycotting” the venture while putting the blame squarely on the host.

  33. Jake says:

    Theresa May as more evil than Bill Clinton? That will sound odd to some, but I think it is true. Hillary is the pure evil half of the Clinton marriage. Bill is simply charming and filled with a desire to amass enough power to have a group adore him as he finds new panties to explore.

    May is English, and she has the very long line of Brit Empire secret service evil at her disposal. And her move is a bold one. What it means is that she is signaling that at least if she is PM, the UK could replace the US as Fearless Leader of the actual New World Order, which is the WASP Empire with Israel and worldwide Jewry as Junior Partner #1 and Saudi Arabia elevated to Junior Partner #2 in an insane attempt to make Israel secure forever.

    The English have never been happy that the lowly Americans leaped them as A-#1 of the WASP Empire, and being English they have no permanent alliances, no permanent allies, not even kin (perhaps especially kin – which type and degree of ruthlessness impresses all Semites).

    This alliance was sealed by none other than the very epitome of WASP culture: Mr. Archetypal WASP himself, Oliver Cromwell. The Anglo-Saxon alliance with Jews precisely to wage wars against non-WASP white Christians was the logical (and inevitable if WASP culture were to acquire large scale political power) .

    By the Victorian era, virtually all Elite Brit WASPs were knowing philoSemites. The new twist was that a growing number of them were becoming obsessed with Arabs and/or Islam. decades before the Balfour Declaration, the Brit WASP Elites were wrangling among themselves over how best to use the largest and wealthiest Empire in world history to express its philoSemtism.

    The solution recently agreed upon was to elevate the Saudis. The assumption is that as the Saudis control the actual land of Mohammed, if they are elevated to suzerainty over not merely all Arabs but the entire Islamic Middle East, then the entire Islamic world can be controlled, including to allow Israel to exist in ‘peace.’

    And that means all that oil is under the indirect, but very firm, control of the WASP Empire, or as The Saker calls it: the Anglo-Zionist Empire.

    Of course, the Saudi royal family is the most amorally vicious power party in the Middle East. They would slaughter half the Sunni Arabs in order to become unrivaled suzerain over the entire Islamic world. Such monstrousness makes the House of Saud exactly the type partner that those who control the WASP Empire want as partners.

    The Russians are in the way of that beautiful plan of world domination. Russians have common sense and, much worse, they express it, even publicly. Russians know that Sunni Islam is a much worse threat to the world than is Shiite Islam. The Russians know that the Iranians are much more honorable and moral than are the Saudis. The Russians know that as bad as the Turks are, they are more honorable and trustworthy than the Saudis.

    And the Russians also know that the Anglo-Zionist Empire would be tickled pink to make all non-WASP Elite whites – all in the world – a permanent serf class, treated the way Cromwell treated the Irish, the way the Israelis treat the Palestinians.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @anonymous
  34. tjm says:
    @Bill jones

    THANK YOU, anyone who give Chump credit for anything, is either a useful idiot, or controlled opposition.

    Trump is, like Obama and H. Clinton (and Bush and B. Clinton Reagan though total control of US government had not yet occurred then) a Zionist agent.

    The media is very good at giving these traitors cover, Obama was the “peace President/Constitutional scholar, as he made war and shredded the Constitution.

    And Chump is an “American firster”, all the while plays us for a fool.

    The Zionist Jews must get a real laugh over how they can so easily fool US.

    Chump is a disaster for America, as was Obama, men elected to stop the Zionist agenda: OPEN BORDERS, WARS, DEBT, MILITARY SPENDING, SPYING ON US…and they have done the exact opposite.

  35. Jake says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Yep – zombified by the cultural, political, and moral fruits of a Judaizing heresy: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism.

  36. Randal says:

    He did that in spite of the fact that he had an election coming up and would be the host of the World Cup in the summer, an event that he would want to go smoothly. So he deliberately shot himself in the foot on both counts, allegedly because he wanted to send a message to traitors and also because just can’t help himself since he is a vindictive KGB type whose impulses are pure evil. Does that make sense to the reader? It doesn’t to me.

    Well, there is a pattern evident here. We are also supposed to believe that the Assad government carries out gratuitous chemical attacks at precisely the worst possible moments for itself, to no plausible benefit and in fact in direct opposition to its own interests, seemingly out of pure joy in doing evil.

    Those who claim to believe this are – there’s no kind way to put this – idiots or liars. Given that this includes almost the entirety of the US political and media elites, where does this leave the US?

    Here’s a rare exception to the above, in the US media elite crowd. Tucker Carlson proving to be one of the rare, precious few who “stands athwart the rush to war, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it”:

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Cloak And Dagger
  37. Randal says:
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, George Galloway has a message addressed directly to you:

    It’s harsh, but one has to concede it is also a fair assessment.

  38. Jake says:
    @Eagle Eye

    Disappeared by the Brit WASPs as part of one of their plans to rule the world – nothing new in that.

  39. tjm says:

    Trump, like Obama are Zionist whores, who are assisted by a zionist controlled media to hide their treason.

    Obama was elected to stop wars, close Guantanamo, end spying on Americans, and support the Constitution. I mean Obama was a “Constitutional scholar” after all.

    And if you ask most democrats, that is exactly what he did , even though he did the exact opposite.

    Chump was an even greater lie, a sleazy real estate mogul from Jew York City, a self-proclaimed zionist, and Clinton friend, was sold as an “American firster and patriot”, and Steve Bannon, A GOLDMAN SACHS EMPLOYEE WAS A “WHITE NATIONALIST”! What a load of shit, yet so many Americans lapped it right up.

    Washington is 100% theater, all of it, not just the parts I don’t agree with. Americans have been divided, and cling to their hate for the other side, over their hate for the zionist jew rulers who have destroyed this country.

    Trump is a filthy immoral creature, perfect for the next phase of zionist destruction of America. Chump will never close the border, make friends with Russia, or do what is right for America, because his rulers HATE US, hate white Christian America, and will do anything to destroy us.

    • Agree: Steve Gittelson, Druid
  40. @Anonymous

    You forgot Russia’s biggest sins.

    It’s not as completely under Zionist control as the de-industrialized USSA, it’s not a huge open air prison camp run by sadists, the politicians there don’t wear baggy pants and bend over for Netanyahoo, and the goyim in Russia have a clue as to who rules the world.

    Thanks for the giggles; you can go get your diaper changed now, silly troll!

    • Replies: @FB
  41. @OMG

    These relentlessly repeated claims are an exercise with the dual purpose of providing a subliminal message about the [only significant] tragedy in human history, repeated ad nauseam. The massive ‘gassing’ of European Jews some 65 years ago. Lest we forget.

    OMG, indeed! Good one.

  42. tjm says:
    @Simon in London

    Agreed, but as an American, I think our CIA is nothing more than a branch of the Israeli government.

    You look throughout the US government, years of ownership of the politicians has lead to most political appointments being run by zionist jews, who once in position start converting the institution into a 100% controlled branch of the zionists.

    • Replies: @Jake
  43. Giuseppe says:

    I challenge anyone to name a modern war prosecuted by the US government and its allies that did not involve at its root the direct fabrication of blatant lies on enormous levels, both as a casus belli and also to manipulate public opinion in favor of hostilities.

    The clandestine activity represented by these *provocations* isn’t even good spycraft. The Skripal case and the latest use of chlorine gas in Syria are risible, clumsy, amateur attempts to wangle the empire into war that the callowest rube could see through. And yet, it’s working its magic on the media. The politicians, suborned by the war machine, give unanimous bipartisan assent.

    What the hell is going on?

  44. @Giuseppe

    Saddam’s WMD, Gulf of Tonkin, etc., etc. And now a ridiculous false flag attack in Syria. Did it take place at all? But the narrative is all. The press in the USA is more effectively controlled and conformist than in Germany in the late 1930s and nobody goes around beating up journalists or sending them to a KZ. The Syrian Gov’t is winning the civil war, things are going well but what Assad really needs is to have the crap bombed out of his military by Uncle Sam. What transparent bullshit.

  45. The U.S. is controlled by Zionists and Zionists are the greatest liars on earth , they lied about 911, the wars in the middle east , the false flags that have been perpetrated on America, they lied about the FED, they are the mother of all liars, and they are destroying America.

    One of the zionists biggest lies was 911, which was done by Israel and the zionist controlled deep state and we are being lied into our destruction.

    • Replies: @tjm
    , @Moi
  46. @jilles dykstra

    Churchill advocated both the use of gas as well as terror, so I find it interesting that so many suddenly tender hearted “officials” and war criminals now affect squeamishness regarding the use of it, yet fail to condemn Israel for its hideous, terroristic use of white phosphorous among other crimes

    Winston S. Churchill: departmental minute (Churchill papers: 16/16) 12 May 1919 War Office
    I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas.

    I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas …gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror

    from Companion Volume 4, Part 1 of the official biography, WINSTON S. CHURCHILL, by Martin Gilbert (London: Heinemann, 1976)

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article999.htm

  47. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:

    The Mossad’s mark was that Persian cat. They poisoned the Skripals so they could off the cat. The bastards!

  48. @Giuseppe

    What the hell is going on?

    Nothing new. Same ol same ol.

    But how are things going up here? what is Athens about?

    Phi. Oh, nothing new; extortion, perjury, forty per cent, face-grinding.

    -Lucian of Samosata, MENIPPUS, A NECROMANTIC EXPERIMENT, ~150 AD

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/luc/wl1/wl176.htm

  49. @JoaoAlfaiate

    The press in the USA is more effectively controlled and conformist than in Germany in the late 1930s

    Who controlled the press there and then?

    What can be said about the control and conformity of the Soviet, British and American press of the time?

    …and nobody goes around beating up journalists or sending them to a KZ.

    That’s probably because the usual thugs don’t need to do that any longer since they control virtually everything.

    A couple of anecdotes to illustrate my point.:

    2 of the reasons we don’t hear much about mobsters these days are that the press and judiciary are owned by them and if you do get something published, you run the risk of getting snuffed. They probably don’t stop at mere blinding anymore.

    Victor Riesel was an American newspaper journalist and columnist who specialized in news related to labor unions. In 1956 a mobster threw sulfuric acid in his face on a public street in Chicago causing his permanent blindness.

    “Treason is a strong word, but not too strong to characterize the situation in which the Senate is the eager, resourceful, and indefatigable agent of interests as hostile to the American people as any invading army could be.” This indictment launched a nine-part series of articles entitled “Treason of the Senate.”

    -David Graham Phillips, Cosmopolitan magazine, February 1906

    In 1911 Phillips was shot multiple times by Fitzhugh Coyle Goldsborough, a Harvard-educated scion of a prominent Maryland family ,at Gramercy Park in New York City.

    • Replies: @JoaoAlfaiate
    , @Rurik
  50. tjm says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Agreed to all you said, but I would include the assassination of JFK and his brother, and likely Martin Luther King Jr.

    And each time they took out a great American, they used that assassination to push a destructive narrative: With the killing of MLK they pinned the killing on a white southern man, thus pushing their white hate narrative.

    With 9/11 is was all about stoking hate of Muslims…

    These creatures lie as easily as breath, and they have all the money in the world to push their lies.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  51. Philip explains the motive as being Teresa May’s political problems. Is he really unaware of the hundreds of UK, US, Mossad and possibly French Spec. Ops. folks captured in E. Ghouta. The West will do almost anything to secure their quiet release.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  52. Is the extremely valuable resource, unz.org. dead or merely malfunctioning today?

    We’re sorry. That page could not be found.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  53. Zogby says:

    So he deliberately shot himself in the foot on both counts, allegedly because he wanted to send a message to traitors and also because just can’t help himself since he is a vindictive KGB type whose impulses are pure evil. Does that make sense to the reader?

    Yes, absolutely. Sounds 100% vintage Putin, although I don’t consider these impulses “pure evil” except in the eyes of partisans. It’s also untrue that he “shot himself in the foot”, as the event, if anything, strengthened his image for the election. The world cup has not been cancelled and is at no risk of being cancelled even if some spoiled-sports don’t show up.
    I’d also add that Skripal was released by Medvedev, not Putin, that the claim Skripal could no longer do damage to Russia is supposition, and that the pettiness of going after apparent pipsqueaks makes the threat toward bigger fish to fry stronger.
    None of that however proves Putin did it. It’s just a possibility. After the dissolution of the USSR, there was enough chaos that private individuals seeking revenge could have gotten hold of military poisons. So this can also be a private act of revenge by someone with access and knowhow. It could also be the work of Ukraine or someone else trying to frame Putin.

  54. @tjm

    Agree, I did not list JFK and RFK and JFKjr, would have to write a book to list all the lies by the Zionist controlled U.S. gov, by the way JFK jr. was also assassinated ie a bomb was on board his plane, and the story was another coverup.

    If you want to read a good book on the JFK assassination , get the book JFK the CIA and VIETNAM by the late Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, can be had on amazon.com.

    Take a look at THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION , this lays out the Zionist plan for a NWO.

  55. Svigor says:

    Unfortunately, those choices he has made to demonstrate his accountability to his supporters have been terrible, including moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, threatening to end the Iran nuclear agreement and building a wall along the Mexican border.

    That’s the problem with most Israel-haters; they’re leftists. I’d rather share a foxhole with a Zionist.

  56. Joe Hide says:

    Good article.
    Still, you authors need to start digging deeper. Trump and his Allies are putting on an amazing show / act to distract their (…and Humanities …going back generations) hidden enemies.
    The Bad Guys have for millennia weoponized information, convincing the public, reporters, and journalists that the rabbit hole ends here, that they don’t need to dig any deeper, to just accept this slightly deeper layer of the onion. That warm and fuzzy feeling from scratching just a little deeper into to information matrix, isn’t enough anymore. You guys have the intelligence, experience, and ability…just do it …please!

  57. Vojkan says:

    Actually, I think that in the end Russia has to thank the British for sending a great message to her traitors and gangsters. Apart from the Skripal case, the UK seems up to confiscate the wealth Russian expats in the UK looted back home. On the one hand, it’s ~ $10bn worth that will be definitely lost for Russia, on the other if the UK’s treatment of Skripal and runaway oligarchs won’t heal Russian traitors and gangsters from their blissful enamourment with England’s climate, I don’t know what will.

  58. @Svigor

    I’d rather share a foxhole with a Zionist.

    One’d have to be a non-goy to be allowed that. A goy would probably have better luck wearing baggy pants and sharing his bunghole.

    Just like Trump and “our” congresscreeps do.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  59. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P

    I can’t find the comment because the comment archive is down — I think it was annamaria who reported that the British were holding assets of Russian oligarchs and that Russia wanted the funds back. The speculation was that Teresa May would take possession of the assets.

    As these two articles state, most of the Russian billionaire oligarchs are Jewish

    US Treasury Putin List Features Jewish Billionaires Times of Israel

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-treasurys-putin-list-features-jewish-billionaires/

    In pictures: Russia’s oligarchs
    Luke Harding (2007) The Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/02/russia.lukeharding1

    So at least (conspiracy theory) part of the Skripal scheme is for Teresa May to be an angel and return their assets to the Jewish billionaires who stole Russian wealth fair and square.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Vojkan
  60. Randal says:
    @Zogby

    Yes, absolutely. Sounds 100% vintage Putin

    To you, perhaps.

    In reality, it’s almost inconceivable that Putin, who is on record as saying not that traitors like Skripal will be killed but that their own treasonous nature will cause them to suffer and die (hardly an unusual view for any patriot), would concoct or allow such an absurdly involved and gratuitously costly (in diplomatic and economic terms) method of trying to send some sort of message.

    Frankly I can’t see any reason not to accept George Galloway’s opinion in the video posted in #38 above of anyone who so desperately twists reality into a form that allows them to believe the British government’s case against the Russian government.

    It’s also untrue that he “shot himself in the foot”, as the event, if anything, strengthened his image for the election.

    The election that he was so certain to win he didn’t even bother to campaign, according to the NYT? Sure, it makes absolute sense that it would be simpler to conduct a hugely emotive “wmd” attack on British territory, in a manner calculated to have the maximum diplomatic and economic costs to Russia, rather than give a couple more speeches.

    Though of course it was not the attack but the British government’s, and the rest of the US sphere’s, response that arguably gave him an electoral boost. How stupid does that make them?

    I’d also add that Skripal was released by Medvedev, not Putin

    And of course Putin would have had no input into such decisions. After all Putin was PM at the time and Medvedev rightly seen as merely a placeholder in the Presidency to allow Putin to get around term limits.

    that the claim Skripal could no longer do damage to Russia is supposition

    But far less speculative than the rather far-fetched supposition that he was somehow still in a position to do Russia harm, after serving four years in prison in Russia, and being exchanged, then living in Britain for 7 years under his own name and with his address in the public domain, and with no protection.

    , and that the pettiness of going after apparent pipsqueaks makes the threat toward bigger fish to fry stronger.

    If the Russians want to warn their expats, a few bullets in the backs of heads would do so far more convincingly and at far less cost than this pantomime.

    But by all means keep making excuses for this literal nonsense. By the way, how did the fact that they apparently miraculously survived an attack with a poison “8-10 times more deadly than VX” fit into the “message”, despite not getting any treatment whatsoever for several hours?

    • Replies: @Anon
  61. @Bill jones

    I got off the Train after Bolton was hired and this latest False Flag Chemical attack in Syria.

    Now I am warry of (((Trump))) and (((who))) owns him. It seems like we have another Jewish Puppet in office.

  62. Randal says:
    2282039

    The frantic attempts to divert attention from Putin suggest panic.

    LOL! Denial proves guilt, forsooth!

    Michael Kenny, George Galloway is talking to you, too, in the talk radio piece linked in #38 above.

    The claim that the head of Porton Down “contradicted” British government claims comes from the anonymous “Moon of Alabama” website.

    No it doesn’t. It’s in the public domain, since the BBC interviewed him after the clownish Boris Johnson claimed on the record that he had been directly assured by Porton Down experts that the material came from Russia, and he denied that Porton Down had been able to identify the origin.

    How far are you willing to go in discrediting yourself to try to save this failed narrative?

  63. Jake says:
    @tjm

    The CIA, the Mossad, and the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency are all children of British secret service.

  64. I am very fond of the British. They have provided a good deal of what makes the US a healthy and blessed place to live.

    But I will admit that I was disappointed in PM Blair on the Iraq invasion and that of Afghanistan. It seemed so blatantly obvious to me, that I thought there was no way the prime minister would buy in. I was wrong. But then who would have believed that the Tory’s would abandon natural relations for same sex relations, muchless marriage.

    It’s unclear how to respond when the leadership is so afraid that they advance anything to avoid grappling with hard reality. PM May has the hurdle of guiding Great Britain out of the EU.

    I wonder if all of this is to avoid that.

    God save the Queen.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  65. Moi says:
    @Reactionary Utopian

    I too noticed that and agree with you. Do not understand why the National Guard can only serve in a supportive, non-enforcement role on the border. Heck, every nation uses its military to guard its borders. We need to send our military to guard our border. It’s really very simple–no one can enter the US unless they have been admitted legally.

    Another thing I don’t understand is how these “sanctuary” cities can so blatantly flout federal law by sheltering illegals from ICE or any federal law enforcement agencies. If any city does so, the federal government should put them on notice that ALL federal funds will be cut off.

    • Replies: @Ace
  66. Rurik says:
    @Randal

    I watched Tucker Carlson last night as well.

    He makes great points, and I’m encouraged that he’s allowed to do so on to a big and important audience.

    I remember when his predecessor, Bill O’Rielly, claimed to have seen the evidence of Saddam’s WMD, and told his audience, on the run up to war, and I was appalled. As indeed, it turned out he too was lying.

    When the ZUSA was entrenched in the highly profitable war on Vietnam, there seemed to be no way to end it. Protests in the streets and at the universities, and anger at the war and war pig$ seemed to no avail.

    But then a phenomena began. Fragging.

    one wonders….

    at seven minutes in, Carlson interviews a senator. The senator does his best to lie and deceive, as only a ZUS senator can. But Tucker eviscerates him on screen.

    now if this senator, and others like him, were themselves put into peril by these serial, treasonous wars for Israel, would they still be so keen to have Americans die, slaughtering innocent people- to bolster and benefit the main enemy of America; Israel?

    I imagine the parent of a young American, who’s life was sacrificed to augment the career of Lindsey Graham. Or other Americans who’re fed up with the endless wars for Israel, and are willing to do something about the treasonous scum who’re demanding and foisting all of these Satanic wars.

    Just as Tucker says, any general who advocates for these wars, should be required to actually visit a battlefield, so too I wonder about the politicians, and how they eventually have to go home, and live among their constituents. What if some of the worst of them, like Graham for instance, were to actually suffer some consequence for all the evil he’s done, and continues to do?

    Of course I’m not advocating anything illegal. Just ruminating on potential solutions to the Eternal Wars for Israel – which are nothing more or less than a continuation of the first two World Wars (for Israel) duh

    END the FED!

    (or watch your nation bankrupted and looted and made to die for Israel)

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @chris
  67. Jake says:
    @anonymous

    WASPs allied with Jews of other nations, WASPs making deals with and for Jews at the expense of non-WASP whites – sounds exactly like Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @edNels
  68. Moi says:
    @Realist

    Yup. Just ask the Native “Americans.” Not a single promise kept–except the one to take their lands!

  69. Respect says:
    @Anonymous

    Come on yankee , ( as you say USA is a country of unbridled greed. An insatiable appetite for blood , land , alcohol ,and loot ) . Just return California , Arizona , New Mexico , Florida , Nevada , Utah , Colorado and Louisiana to Mexico , and Alaska to Russia ) , and then, only then , you can talk .

    PS , and do not forget to close the 8OO occupation bases the US has around the world , you will save a lot of money

  70. FB says:
    @jacques sheete

    Jacques…Troll Alert…

    Here is our professional shill from the other thread where he was spouting the Kaliningrad nonsense under the name ‘Been_there_done_that’

    You and Rurik and myself told him off already there…yet here is again trying to sneak in under the radar as an ‘anonymous’ now…

    Btw…he had zero commenting history until that first post on the Petras thread…

    Total loser…

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  71. Moi says:
    @Jake

    Overall, pretty accurate. But permit me point out a few things:

    *There is no “land of Mohammed.” His mission had nothing to do with land–it was about human hearts. Also, proper spelling is Muhammad. Indeed, when his daughter after his death, asked the first caliph (Muhammad’s closest companion) if she could have a few things of her father, she was told that “a prophet has no possessions.”

    *There are no Islamic countries, but there are Muslim-majority countries. As scholars have noted, the correct comparison should be between Christ and Koran, not Christ and Muhammad, because (according to both Christianity and Islam), Christ is the word of God just as for Muslims the Koran is the word of God.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  72. @jacques sheete

    The intent of my post was to show that the MSM here is conformist and doesn’t like to stray far from what the USG is claiming and what other journalists are writing. Rather than explore the topics you raise, as worthy of exploration as they might be, I thought I’d offer what newspapers around the USA were saying about Saddam’s WMD after Powell’s UNSC speech; seems a bit more germane.

    The Powell evidence will be persuasive to anyone who is still persuadable.

    The Wall Street Journal

    Piling fact upon fact, photo upon photo Wednesday, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell methodically demonstrated why Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein remains dangerous to his own people, Iraq’s neighbors…

    The Los Angeles Times

    On Wednesday, America’s most reluctant warrior, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, presented succinct and damning evidence of Saddam’s enormous threat to world peace.

    Arizona Republic

    Saddam Hussein’s illicit arsenal of biological and chemical weapons, as well as the equally illicit means that he possesses to deliver them, poses a tangible and urgent danger to U.S. and world security. Millions of innocent lives are at risk.

    Dallas Morning News

    At some point, the world chooses to believe President George W. Bush and Secretary Powell or the international community chooses to side with Saddam Hussein and those who broadcast his lies to the world. …Powell has painstakingly presented a strong case against Iraq.

    Greenville News/South Carolina

    Iraq is busted. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell laid out the case clearly. No one hearing Powell’s presentation to the United Nations Security Council could doubt Iraq’s actions and intentions.

    Jacksonville Times-Union/Florida

    The threat is real and at our door. Sept. 11, 2001, stripped away the belief that the United States can peacefully coexist with evil. Prove it, they said. Powell has.

    Charleston Daily Mail/West Virginia

    We are a country always loath to fight unless provoked. The reluctance of Americans to initiate a war needlessly does the nation credit. But this is not a needless war, nor is it unprovoked. Powell laid out the need, and explained the provocation, in step-by-step fashion that cannot be refuted without resorting to fantasy.

    Chicago Sun-Times

    The Dispatch repeatedly has called on the Bush administration to make a compelling case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is developing weapons of mass destruction and hiding these efforts from U.N. inspectors. Yesterday, Secretary of State Colin Powell made that case before the Security Council.

    Columbus Dispatch

    Powell has methodically proved Iraq’s failure to comply with U.N. mandates. With each passing day, Iraq’s own choices move it closer to a war that full compliance would prevent.

    Indianapolis Star

    Secretary of State Colin Powell’s 90-minute presentation to the U.N. Security Council, buttressed with surveillance photographs and recorded phone conversations, should remove all doubt that Iraq’s Saddam Hussein has developed and hides weapons of mass destruction, in violation of U.N. resolutions.

    Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

    Powell’s speech to the U.N. Security Council presented not just one ‘smoking gun’ but a battery of them, more than sufficient to dispel any lingering doubt about the threat the Iraqi dictator poses.

    Denver Post

    The United States has made a compelling case that Iraq has failed to rid itself of weapons of mass destruction. This failure violates the U.N. Security Council resolution of late last year which ordered Iraq to disarm. As a consequence and it is a grave one, the Security Council must act now to disarm Iraq by force.

    Salt Lake City Tribune

    Powell has connected enough dots to tie Iraq to al-Qaeda and show that this alliance is a threat to all of Europe as well as the United States.

    Manchester Union Leader

    In fact, the speech provided proof that Saddam continues to refuse to obey U.N. resolutions. Any amount of time he has now to comply fully and openly with U.N. demands should be measured in days or a few weeks – and no longer.

    Portland Press-Herald/Maine

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  73. annamaria says:

    On the British Establishment:
    The Skripal affair is better understood in the context of “sir” Savile’ knighthood — when the influential pedophile had been raping and molesting kids for 40 years and none stood up to the criminal. The BBC has dutifully refused to publish anything that would upset “sir” Savile. The Scotland Yard looked the other way — precisely as the Establishment ordered them to do.
    Savile’ specialty were orphans. He was the embodiment of British Establishment.

    The British Establishment has done with the concepts of honor. The loudest lying voices against Russia belong either to the whoring “aristocrats,” who found that war profiteering (by any means) pays well, or the opportunistic parvenu like Gavin Williamson representing the vulgarity and intellectual inadequacy of the Establishment.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jacques sheete
  74. Moi says:
    @DESERT FOX

    The history of lies and subterfuge is long and has a revered place in Jewish history:

    “But that night the king, being sleepless, ordered the chronicles of the nation to be read to him. Recalling that Mordecai had never been rewarded for his service in revealing the plot of the eunuchs, he asked Haman, the next day, to suggest a suitable reward for one “whom the king desired to honour”. Thinking it was himself that the king had in mind, Haman suggested the use of the king’s apparel and insignia. These the king ordered to be bestowed on Mordecai.[9]
    Esther denouncing Haman by Ernest Normand.

    Only at the second dinner party, when the king was sufficiently beguiled by her charms, did Esther reveal for the first time her identity as a Jew, and accused Haman of the plot to destroy her and her people. The king ordered that Haman should be hanged on the gallows prepared for Mordecai, and, confiscating his property, bestowed it upon the intended victim.[9] The king then appointed Mordecai as his prime minister, and issued a decree authorizing the Jews to defend themselves.[8]

    The Jews established an annual feast, the feast of Purim, in memory of their deliverance”

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  75. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    the Senate is the eager, resourceful, and indefatigable agent of interests as hostile to the American people as any invading army could be.”

    -David Graham Phillips, Cosmopolitan magazine, February 1906

    and to think that was over a hundred years ago

    they’ve only gotten better at it with time

    if you read The Protocols, one thing that I remember was the contemptuous way it referred to the goyim as having the minds and souls of beasts. Lumbering, mindless cattle, chewing their cud in a kind of catatonic stupor.

    what else can we conclude about the kind of people who would vote for Lindsey Graham or John McCain? These guys get reelected again and again.

    The saddest and most tragic thing about The Protocols is that the goyim seem to be as accommodating to the Elders as any farm animal can be. At least a pig might be apprehensive of the trip to the slaughter house. I remember a video where a pig jumped out of a moving truck, and walked off. But the goyim suit up their children and hand them over as cannon fodder, to be slaughtered on behalf of their enemies.

    In the last century, there may have been an excuse for not knowing the nature of the ZUS government, being as ((they)) controlled virtually every source of information.

    But today it’s all out there. Today everybody knows that all of these wars are for Israel, at the direct expense of America’s blood and treasure and (I won’t say good) name.

    And yet, (especially from the Christian churches) the call to suit up the young people to die in more wars- slaughtering innocents – for our enemies, will resound in the nation.

    If I were a British soldier, told to kill some Russian soldier, because Putin is Hitler.. as my daughter languishes in a mental hospital, having been gang raped into a shell of a human being, and my son was brutalized by a British aristocrat, but now I’m called up to kill Russians in a contrived World War, to benefit the pedophile Peerage and their ((patrons)), I don’t know how I’d resist pointing that weapon away from the Russian, and towards England’s true enemies.

  76. Vojkan says:
    @anonymous

    If ~ $10bn is the price to be definitely – FOREVER – rid of the Jewish mafia on Russian soil, if I were Russian I’d gladly pay it.

  77. FB says:
    @Corvinus

    Corvanus dumps a megaload of BS on unsuspecting Unz readers…

    ‘…Under the Putin regime, the body count of his enemies has grown.

    He put the “de Thirty-four Russian journalists in the last decade just somehow “died”. Occam’s Razor applies here…’

    • LOL: jacques sheete
  78. EugeneGur says:
    @Zogby

    It’s also untrue that he “shot himself in the foot”, as the event, if anything, strengthened his image for the election.

    What strengthened his image was an insane hysterics by the UK and the West in general. The Russians do tend to consolidate when perceive themselves under external threat.

    the pettiness of going after apparent pipsqueaks

    Neither Putin personally nor the Russian government in general have ever shown themselves to be petty. On the contrary, one of the notable qualities of Putin’s is that he believes, as we Russians put it, “the crown would not fall off his head if he bows”. Apparently, he feels strong, so he is not afraid to be magnanimous and make concessions. This quality is much appreciated by some but drives other people crazy.

    None of that however proves Putin did it. It’s just a possibility.

    Theoretically, it’s a possibility that the Martians did it. However, given the behavior of the UK authorities, there is no reason to believe anything even remotely like the picture described happened in reality. There is a scientific impossibility to identify the agent, first, as fast as it was supposedly done, and, second, unless they had a sample and/or detailed information in their possession. It’s scientifically impossible to establish provenance unless the UK had samples of both the agent used and a comparison sample. Multiple comparison samples, I should say, since there are many such compounds. But if they did, the whole premise “only Russia could have done it” goes out of the window.

    Add here the inconsistency of the symptoms and the outcome with the “military grade” nerve agent poisoning – and here you have a complete a story of a very clumsy false flag operation.

    • Replies: @Anon
  79. FB says:
    @Kiza

    ‘…USS Donald Duck has been placed as a bait to be sent to the bottom of Mediterranean sea by the Russians…’

    LOL…

    Howdy Doody Dump is cruisin’ for a bruisin’…

  80. Respect says:
    @Anonymous

    You sound like a 1940`s nazi blasting jews ( and wanting to exterminate them )

  81. Corvinus says:
    @Randal

    “It’s harsh, but one has to concede it is also a fair assessment.”

    Galloway does not address specifically about Putin’s past or his motivations. And Galloway has an axe to grind with Johnson, so one must carefully consider Galloway’s intentions.

    • Replies: @Herald
  82. Rurik says:
    @Jake

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem.

    I’m (putatively anyways) a ‘WASP’

    what, one wonders, is to be done with people like me?

    do I have too much power? Am I (and others like me) foisting all the wars and globalism and all the rest?

    it was the British WASPs who voted for Brexit

    it was the American WASPs who voted for Trump, because he said he’d end the wars, and do other common-sense things. Like end the ZUS government’s overt war on it’s dying WASP population.

    I can hardly think of a group of people more marginalized and disenfranchised than America’s WASPs. And sure, they’re being betrayed by their own, of course, but no more so than the Catholics are being betrayed by the Vatican.

    the cowardice and venality of the goyim leadership is fulsome across the landscape, from Catholic France and Italy and Poland and beyond. And yes, it includes the WASPs of England and the ZUS, but to pretend that all of these evils are emanating out of the WASP power structure, even as WASPs are a dying breed- their nations invaded, and their identity demonized, is beyond ludicrous.

    • Replies: @Anon
  83. anonymous[397] • Disclaimer says:

    Like a gullible person I at first accepted that there was indeed some event that involved the Skripals. Now I wonder if the entire thing was a scripted hoax, that nothing had hit them, that it’s all fake. It wouldn’t be surprising. We seem to be in an age of rule by sociopaths whose only compass is that of power and riches. The populations of our countries are being hustled along for the benefit of the few. This can’t have a happy ending for the majority of people. The much vaunted democracy of the west looks like just a fixed shell game.

  84. gwynedd1 says:
    @Mulegino1

    The little lie is more difficult because the veracity thereof may be observed. A large lie or untruth is more difficult to observe. Such as what is visible from outer space is not something anyone can falsify.

  85. @Moi

    The U.S. gov is totally controlled by the Zionist dual citizens and their puppet Trump the last in a long line of puppet POTUS and so this gov is based on lies, just ask the native Americans, the gov broke every treaty the U.S. gov had with them.

  86. FB says:

    Justin Raimondo has just done a U turn on ‘president’ Dump…

    ‘…doesn’t this prove I was wrong about Trump and his movement all along?

    …I was very wrong to discount the role of character, personality, and intelligence: Trump is simply not fit to be President…’

    Raimondo’s reaction to Dump’s incredible imbecility re the Syria ‘chemical attacks…’

    ‘…A child could see through the fake “chemical attack” supposedly launched by Bashar al-Assad just as his troops defeated the jihadists and Trump said he wanted out of Syria…’

    Yes…anyone watching that white helmets footage is immediately cringing for those poor kids being abused as props in a macabre stage play…

    How stupid is Dump anyway…?

    That’s the question…

  87. Mike P says:
    @anti_republocrat

    Is he really unaware of the hundreds of UK, US, Mossad and possibly French Spec. Ops. folks captured in E. Ghouta.

    Do you have any reference/link for this?

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  88. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous

    “More occupation and killing in Crimea…”
    — Evidence? It seems that you are very upset that the Kagans’ cookies did not deliver.
    “One Year Later, Crimeans Prefer Russia:” https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-02-06/one-year-later-crimeans-prefer-russia
    “How Crimeans See Ukraine Crisis:” https://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/11/how-crimeans-see-ukraine-crisis/
    “A Pew poll from April 2014 revealed that 91 percent of Crimean respondents believed the referendum was free and fair, 93 percent had confidence in Putin, and 85 percent believed Kiev should recognize the results.
    Another poll in June 2014, this one from Gallup, showed 94 percent of ethnic Russians in Crimea thought the referendum reflected the views of the people and 68 percent of ethnic Ukrainians in Crimea agreed. The poll found that 74 percent believed that joining Russia would make life better.
    A GfK poll from February 2015, sponsored by a pro-Ukrainian group in Canada, revealed 93 percent of Crimeans endorsed the referendum.”
    —Still not enough for you?
    “Ukraine [post-Maidan] under pressure from West over corruption:” http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2017/dec/07/ukraine-under-pressure-from-west-over-corruption-1721487.html
    “Enough documents have been released — citing coup-backed snipers killing dozens of protesters, US embassy officials planning false flag attacks, extremists downing a passenger airliner and NATO peddling falsified intelligence — to make it very clear that the “coup” is more of an invasion than anything else. …
    The term, roughly translated as Revolution of Dignity, was cooked up at the Jamestown Foundation in Washington, well in advance of Victoria Nuland’s assumption of the throne as de facto “Queen of the Ukraine,” lording over her subjects, playing the role of “donut dollie.”
    The roots of the conflict in the Ukraine with thousands dead and the threat of, minimally, a wider regional conflict, are attributable to extremist elements in the United States — those faces and voices seen and heard promoting the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, the supporters of ISIS/Al Qaeda in Syria — and the cheerleaders of the continued genocide against the Palestinian people.”

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/07/neo-ukraine-fighting-the-spin/

    “In 1950, the Nuremberg Tribunal defined Crimes against Peace, in Principle VI, specifically Principle VI(a), submitted to the United Nations General Assembly, as:
    (i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
    (ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).”

  89. @annamaria

    Bravo, indeed, Annamaria. Beautiful, perfect, resounding, harsh, unforgiving words for a pair of worthless human vermin masquerading as civilised, intelligent professionals with a moral compass.

    The pair of them – and the entire wide set and grouping of their self-loathing, White-hating racist political henchmen, hangers-on, groupies, freeloaders and Labour party pirates and race traitors who have brought my nation to the brink in every possible way should be publicly hanged and left to rot.

    Better still that none of the Moslem-loving filth had ever been born.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @anonymous
  90. @Rurik

    You and me both, friend.

    It isn’t only the Jews and the Moslems who will have cause to regret the war to end all (White) wars which is fast approaching.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  91. @jilles dykstra

    Rubbish. Old age is no excuse for checking a failing memory of half remembered stuff by Googling e.g “Churchill gas attacks [Damascus]“.

  92. Rurik says:

    “We have a lot of options, militarily,” the president added. “And we’ll be letting you know pretty soon. Probably after the fact.”

    The meeting ended after less than an hour. Asked how his first day was going, Bolton replied: “What could go wrong?”

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-syria-decision-imminent-as-russia-warns-of-grave-repercussions/ar-AAvH9n6?ocid=ientp

    all Putin has to do is tell the zio-scum that with the first death of a Russian national, Tel Aviv gets glassed.

    obviously, Satan owns the ZUSA lock, stock and barrel

    The world is now menaced by a fiend that will never relent, especially since it always wages its wars by proxy, and gets off when Iraqis and Libyans and Syrians and Americans and Brits and Ukros, etc.. are slaughtered.

    what is required is a reverse Samson option. Russia and the remaining free world, (how ironic is that?) needs to let Israel know that the planet has had its full of the zio-fiend. And that Russia and China and Pakistan and Turkey and others will all consider any further aggressions against sovereign nations as an act of war by Israel (regardless of it’s stooges the ZUSA, France, England, etc…) and that all of these wars are obviously being waged by Israel, (using the ZUS and others as proxies) against the collective nations and common decency of the rest of the world.

    reverse Samson Option.

    yep, that’s the ticket ;)

  93. Svigor says:

    One’d have to be a non-goy to be allowed that. A goy would probably have better luck wearing baggy pants and sharing his bunghole.

    Just like Trump and “our” congresscreeps do.

    Oh, it’s a tough choice, to be sure. But I bet after a couple beers the Zionist and I could see eye to eye. The leftist would be dropping grenades on his way out.

  94. Rurik says:
    @annamaria

    Blair’s face has become expressively evil

    I sure hope nothing happens to him.

    Just imagine if his bulletproof limo were to break down in the middle of England, and he was forced to face the British people without his security detail!

  95. Svigor says:

    I’m (putatively anyways) a ‘WASP’

    what, one wonders, is to be done with people like me?

    do I have too much power? Am I (and others like me) foisting all the wars and globalism and all the rest?

    The fundamental, TL;DR, take-home points:

    1. If a Jew has his and his people’s interests at heart, he’s fine with the status quo.
    2. If an Anglo-Saxon has his and his people’s interests at heart, he opposes the status quo.

    Put another way, the status quo serves Jewish interests, and opposes Anglo-Saxon interests.

    In other words, from an ethnopatriot’s POV, inside every Anglo-Saxon, there’s an ethnonationalist trying to get out. Jews, on the other hand, have to be talked out of their ethnonationalism, to the extent that they step down from the Jewish Supremacy, to some form of reciprocal, universal ethnonationalism. Good luck with that, I say to anyone who’s trying.

    As you say; the Anglo-Saxons are being sold down the river. Jews are not (that comes later, when the backlash starts, for the umpteenth time, and Jews are shocked, SHOCKED, for the umpteenth time).

    The whole “Anglo-Zionist” thing is a thing because flatheads are pussies who can’t just name the Jew.

    • Replies: @Herald
  96. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Please convey some useful knowledge. What does “Balfour in 1907 already announced [sic] war against Germany” mean when you switch your brain on to it? Discussion of war involving Germany had been commonplsce for years. NB Erskine Childers “The Riddle of the Sands” was published in 2003.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  97. An old rhyme, “Liar, liar, house on fire.”

    Anyone here recall the attempt to impeach ZUS President Clinton for lying under oath.

    One of his lesser known “sins” was Clinton’s refusal to meet before with Netanyahu in the White House. (I think it was Netanyahu & not Ariel Sharon)

    Recall also that Clinton was under fire for stupidly having denied indulging sex with Jewish intern, Monica Lewinsky?

    In order to reduce pressure on his preZidency, Clinton ordered a bombing of what turned out to be an Islamic nation’s aspirin factory.

    Fast forward today: ZUS President Trump hunted by Mueller and FBI busted his lawyer Cohen’s office to get hard copy information on the Stormy Daniels pay off.

    Please realize the fact that I consider PreZident Trump as an extraordinary and willing puppet for Jewish Neoconservatives.

    So given comparison to PreZident Clinton’s slick method to escape Zio power, the question for me becomes:
    Is the Stormy scandal conveniently intensifying now so that Trump quickly EXPEDITES his Zio-assigned work of bombing either or both Syria and Iran? Secretary Mattis is mad, but is he presently in the dog-White House quarters ’cause he’s too “risk averse”?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  98. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Randal

    So, like the rest of us you haven’t a clue but for some reason beed to babble on feverishly as though you know something and feel it important to show your confidence in what you have no right to feel confident about.

    • Replies: @Randal
  99. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @EugeneGur

    You are just babbling your amateur speculations without it even being properly responsive to Zogby’s measured and limited case.

  100. denk says:

    “Oh, what a tangled web we weave…when first we practice to deceive.”

    500 years of fukus skullduggery…
    Where do we start,
    Why not the beginning ?

    It’s the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times;
    creating the enemies you need.

    In 70 BC, an ambitious minor politician and extremely wealthy man, Marcus Licinius Crassus, wanted to rule Rome. Just to give you an idea of what sort of man Crassus really was, he is credited with invention of the fire brigade. But in Crassus’ version, his fire-fighting slaves would race to the scene of a burning building whereupon Crassus would offer to buy it on the spot for a tiny fraction of its worth. If the owner sold, Crassus’ slaves would put out the fire. If the owner refused to sell, Crassus allowed the building to burn to the ground. By means of this device, Crassus eventually came to be the largest single private land holder in Rome, and used some of his wealth to help back Julius Caesar against Cicero.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ARTICLE5/index.php#axzz5CHx5Tanb

    • Replies: @denk
  101. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    I hope someone doesn’t report you to Moscow where it is most likely that your solecisms revealing ignorance of the UK would be well recognised. (At lesst you seem to do it all yourself toute seule so I fon’t suppose you will disappear like the Rehmat team).

    “Sir – let slone ‘sir’ – Savile”! Really! Worthy of the Turkish cleaner.

    And the idea tbat Savile was in any way Establishmentt (unless you are like Alice’s friend Humpty Dumpty in your ussge) is ludicrous.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  102. Rurik says:
    @Dave Bowman

    Moslem-loving filth

    I appreciate your sentiments Dave, but I’d offer that there isn’t anything ‘Moslem-loving’ about Blair or his stripe.

    The reason Muslims are overrunning many parts of England (and Sweden and Germany and France and elsewhere) isn’t because the people doing it (the Blairs and Bushes) love Muslims. Hardly. Rather the motivations for the massive migrations (of Muslims and Africans and S. Americans and everybody else they can get) into all Western nations are motivated by a pure, incomprehensibly Satanic hatred for the people of the West.

    They’d use Martians if that was all that was available in order to see England destroyed, and sent reeling into a nightmare, Orwellian dystopia.

    Orwell didn’t conjure the ‘inner party’ out of thin air. He saw it up close and personal, during the nascent Soviet-imposed genocide and slavery that England and the ZUS doomed the people of Eastern Europe to suffer under.

    All the psychotic manifestations of Ingsog were all glaringly visible to George, during the wars, and especially following the “liberation” of Germany.

    What Solomon Morel did to his many victims, he didn’t do out of revenge. They were innocent, often just children. He did what he did out of an expression of his pathologies; a need, an imperative to feel the pleasure it gave him to wield absolute power over others. As an end in itself. To not just make them suffer, but to make them know who was making them suffer. And then, compound their suffering.

    If Solomon were an aberration, and was prosecuted for what everyone knew he did, then that would imply a proscription upon his brand of ethnic sadism and cruelty. But he wasn’t prosecuted, rather he was allowed sanctuary and coddled.

    This is telling. It isn’t out of love for Muslims that they’re demanding the West open its gates. Rather it’s out of raw hatred. A kind of all-consuming hatred that I know (thankfully) I’ll never comprehend.

  103. Herald says:
    @Simon in London

    Is Simon in London trying to be objective and reasonable or is he just rather cleverly sowing doubt and disinformation? I smell a limited hangout rat here from reasonable Simon.

    Realistically there is hardly any chance that it was “Russia did it” when it had absolutely nothing to gain. Even if it had why go about it in this highly farcical and incompetent manner? It makes zero sense and the whole thing is screaming false flag from the roof tops, as was the similarly theatrical Litvinenko affair.

    In both instances there is no reason whatsoever to give the benefit of any doubt to western countries or their “security services” and this includes all of their chums in the middle east.

    • Replies: @Simon in London
  104. Randal says:
    @Anon

    No, there’s no equivalence here between making obviously silly assertions to try to support a failed narrative, and pointing out the obvious flaws in those obviously silly assertions.

    If there were, even an “anon” like you might have bothered to actually try to argue the case, rather than just insisting, in effect, “nobody knows anything so nobody can say anything”.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  105. Sean says:

    http://nationalpost.com/news/world/putin-tries-to-get-oligarchs-to-send-1-trillion-home-to-russia-as-threat-of-sanctions-looms

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/16/vladimir-putin-russia-politics-of-eternity-timothy-snyder

    The collapse of the politics of inevitability ushers in another experience of time: the politics of eternity. Whereas inevitability promises a better future for everyone, eternity places one nation at the centre of a cyclical story of victimhood. Time is no longer a line into the future, but a circle that endlessly returns the same threats from the past. Within inevitability, no one is responsible because we all know that the details will sort themselves out for the better; within eternity, no one is responsible because we all know that the enemy is coming no matter what we do. Eternity politicians spread the conviction that government cannot aid society as a whole, but can only guard against threats. Progress gives way to doom.

    In power, eternity politicians manufacture crisis and manipulate the resultant emotion. To distract from their inability or unwillingness to reform, they instruct their citizens to experience elation and outrage at short intervals, drowning the future in the present. In foreign policy, eternity politicians belittle and undo the achievements of countries that might seem like models to their own citizens. Using technology to transmit political fiction at home and abroad, eternity politicians deny truth and seek to reduce life to spectacle and feeling.

    Inevitability and eternity translate facts into narratives. Those swayed by inevitability see every fact as a blip that does not alter the overall story of progress; those who shift to eternity classify every new event as just one more instance of a timeless threat. Each masquerades as history; each does away with history. Inevitability politicians teach that the specifics of the past are irrelevant, since anything that happens is just grist for the mill of progress. Eternity politicians leap from one moment to another, over decades or centuries, to build a myth of innocence and danger. They imagine cycles of threat in the past, creating an imagined pattern that they realise in the present by producing artificial crises and daily drama.

    Putin is getting the West to cut itself off from Russia, which has the added bonus of reversing capital flight, but the real objective is a long term alienation that will continue after he is gone. They will always be a Russia, because the West is going to be like a bear with a sore head after endless flouts and affronts from Putin’s troll state.

  106. Z-man says:

    Unz, your comments section (to check previous comments) is still not working. It was a virulent attack by your landsmen.

  107. Herald says:
    @Corvinus

    Nobody should have the slightest hesitation about grinding an axe the incompetent with the deceitful Boris Johnson.

  108. Herald says:
    @Svigor

    You’re losing it pal.

  109. @Corvinus

    Where is the body count you assert as a fact, Einstein? Is it as high as the one racked up by the US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia and Israel in their never ending wars against all opposition to post WWII Neo-liberal dollar-denominated empire?

  110. @FB

    Total loser…

    They all are, including the goons who wrote their answer book.

    What morons; they don’t even know that their time is about up, and when it is, their bosses will flush them down the toilet just like the rest of the waste products.

    Bye bye dupes!

  111. Ron Unz says:
    @jacques sheete

    Is the extremely valuable resource, unz.org. dead or merely malfunctioning today?

    It’s now back online.

    And the /comments/ pages are also still temporarily blocked until I finish adding some powerful additional protections against large bot-waves, probably by the end of today.

  112. @JoaoAlfaiate

    The intent of my post was to show that the MSM here is conformist and doesn’t like to stray far from what the USG is claiming and what other journalists are writing.

    Your comment is well taken but I’d like to point out a couple of ways to hone your mostly correct impressions of the press. 1.) Please don’t call the corporate propaganda “MSM” because that’s a subtle way of legitimizing it. It is not mainstream in that it works against the interests of most Americans. 2.) That media is little more than a tool of the interests, and most “journalists” are parrots and propagandists. It’s obvious that bulk of their info is obtained from the government which itself is a tool of the big money crowd.

    I think that your comment would read more correctly this way.:

    The press in the USA is more effectively controlled and conformist than it allegedly was in Germany in the late 1930s.

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Time
    Mr. Rothbard was an American Jew and an historian of the very highest caliber.

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

    • Replies: @chris
  113. densa says:

    Raimondo: So he’s not just stupid, and crazy – he’s also a coward. He refuses to confront the War Party head on, despite his campaign trail rhetoric. Just the other day he was telling crowds in Ohio how we were on the way out of Syria because “we have to take care of our own country.” The crowd cheered. Would he go back to that same audience and tell them we need to intervene in a country that’s been wracked by warfare for years, with no real hope of a peaceful settlement? Of course not.

    Coulter: He is a shallow, lazy ignoramus who just wants Goldman Sachs to like him.

    We get words; the neocon banker NY scum, running and ruining this world on the fast track since 9-11, get action. They also own the congressional swamp with its amazingly high approval rating of 15%. They own the former liberal left, now the Resistance, that can turn out half a million bleeding hearts in pussy hats but the same oddly can’t be bothered to protest war.

    Although I believe the timing of the raid on Trump’s lawyer’s office to be convenient to help persuade him to ignore his base and appease his owners, at this point I won’t be troubled when they throw him away.

    • Agree: FB
  114. deschutes says:
    @Anonymous

    Do the world a favor and jump in front of a bus. One less brain dead asshole that way.

    • LOL: Z-man
  115. Eagle Eye says:
    @Ron Unz

    Many commercial websites would be proud to have a support team 1/10 as responsive and intelligent as Mr. Unz.

  116. @annamaria

    Despite “Anon’s” mindless mockery, thanks for reminding us of another of Perfidious Albion’s finest.

  117. edNels says:
    @Jake

    I read your pretty good comments here today, and to take one little bit:

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem

    .

    No doubt it makes sense, but how about us ”nominal Wasps”, not Catholic white, not Jewish ‘whites’ either, in fact mighty even risk putting in ”nominal Jews” too, on a list of Expendables in the view of the operative elite Zio-Wasps.

    The Thug mafia are exclusivist self obsessed sociopaths and not interested in bringing along any fellow travelers of race or creed, much less the hoi palloi of the above groups that either are or not picked on from time to time, not doubt.

    It’s beyond any ”healthy” tribalism anymore, look at Trump, he don’t even know who he is… f’n lapsed German FCSakes. Should be: (He’s Fi’ahd!!). bannished from TV!

  118. anonymous[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Russians know that Sunni Islam is a much worse threat to the world than is Shiite Islam.

    Perhaps that is because the polytheist world subliminally views the Shiite deviants, with their hyper-veneration of a man, bordering on polytheism, to be closer to their own pagan spiritual faiths. You know, a certain camaraderie which comes between “co-religionists.”

    Even Judaism which claims a strict faith in His Oneness, fails miserably with their pagan “in-his-image” argument of the Almighty One.

    Sunni Islam stands alone in the world, with its crystal clear and unshakeable message of True Monotheism. God is One, Infinite, Unique. In that way it is indeed a threat… a threat to the godlessness and heathenism of the world’s majority.

    We true monotheists are hardly looking for “acceptance” as a “lesser threat” by the hypocritical spiritual ciphers of the world.

    And, much worse threat? Sigh!!

    In a world where white christian-jew psychopaths are running rampant, plundering and mass murdering innocents, it is bizarre to read how True Monotheism is a “worse threat” than some other…

    It is also deceitful to imply that Saudi Arabia and its gulf minions represent Sunni Islam. Their conniving treacherous ruling class are simply puppets of the Anglo-Zionist evil. The only power they have over us majority Sunnis, is their entry visa… for pilgrimage.

    Finally, let it be clear, there is no other “much worse threat to the world” than christian-jew whites. Everybody else need to content themselves with lower positions on the Worst Threat rankings.

  119. @Rurik

    and to think that was over a hundred years ago

    That, my friend is one reason why I like sharing the old stuff.

    they’ve only gotten better at it with time

    That’s another one.

    Another reason I share the old stuff is that it shows that we shouldn’t be so smug. In other words, despite our vaunted “greatness,” there is little evidence that we’ve solved or improved anything significant in any substantial way.

    BTW: Did ya catch the name and background of the sicko that shot him? Probably no surprise there, either.(In 1911 Phillips was shot multiple times by Fitzhugh Coyle Goldsborough, a Harvard-educated scion of a prominent Maryland family ,at Gramercy Park in New York City.)

    • Replies: @Rurik
  120. Eagle Eye says:
    @All we like sheep

    how to spirit these two living & talking people away, who have returned from the dead,

    Rather doubt that Sergei and Yulia Skripal are still living and talking (as the UK government insists). If they were still alive, we would have seen breathless TV interviews, magazine stories about Yulia torn between East and West, perhaps by now even a romantic angle.

    Civilian medical researchers would line up to ask for blood and tissue samples, do batteries of medical tests etc. and and would rush out scientific papers about the mechanism and effects of the alleged poisoning.

    Instead, we hear of a bizarre alleged phone call between Yulia Skripal’s cousin and her cousin Viktoria Skripal which Viktoria noted seemed “scripted” and was terminated abruptly.

    Most likely, both Sergei and Yulia were MURDERED by British intelligence services around the time of the “incident.” Ironically, the strongest evidence for this theory lies in the fact that the UK continues to claim, without public verification, that both are still alive.

    BTW while we hear endless repetitions of the cool-sounding Russian term “Novichok,” nobody seems keen to tell us WHICH specific compound in the “Novichok” group (known to the West since the 1980s) was allegedly used on Sergei and Yulia Skripal.

    • Replies: @All we like sheep
  121. @ANON

    Please convey some useful knowledge.

    How about practicing what you preach?

    • Replies: @ANON
  122. anonymous[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    God save the Queen.

    Perhaps in this world.

    On the Day of Judgment… the hag stands no chance. ;)

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @anon
  123. @Rurik

    This is telling. It isn’t out of love for Muslims that they’re demanding the West open its gates. Rather it’s out of raw hatred. A kind of all-consuming hatred that I know (thankfully) I’ll never comprehend.

    I’d like to second that and add that it’s a twofer. By doing that, both Muslims and the rest of us goyim suffer gratuitously to satiate their insatiable barbarity.

    And they not only hate us but seem to loathe each other as well.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  124. densa says:
    @FB

    My post at 118 was meant to be in response to FB’s post and link.

  125. @Ron Unz

    Muchas muchas gracias mi amigo!

  126. @FB

    ‘…A child could see through the fake “chemical attack” supposedly launched by Bashar al-Assad just as his troops defeated the jihadists and Trump said he wanted out of Syria…’

    Didn’t a million+ children’s voices tell us just 2 weeks ago that they were now the leaders, that they were the future, and didn’t elected (putative) leaders across the nation pat them on the head and give them the keys to the car?

    Where are they now?

    What does David Hogg advise US decision-makers to do wrt Syria?

    Emma González is now billed as an “activist for gun control.” The group she organized insists that no child should have to fear being on the business end of an automatic weapon.

    Does that apply to children in Syria, and Palestine, and Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Iran, or only to her upscale Parkland Florida enclave?

    Women’s March organizers aided and encouraged the child-to-adult marchers. Have they taken a stand for or against “gun violence” perpetrated by US and US allies in Syria?

    Have Mr. and Mrs. George Clooney, and Steve Speilberg exhausted their funds or can they find another million to send a message to US policy makers to UPHOLD American due process and values, and to refrain from senselessly waging another war.

    An award-winning executive in the Huge PR firm thanked team members at her firm for creating the banner she waved at the Women’s March in Jan. 2017.
    She posted on FB: “We used our voices and will continue to fight for our rights and equality.” Hillary Clinton is quoted:
    “Never stop believing that fighting for what is right is worth it.”

    Is it right that the USA should rush to war without fully determining who committed what acts; what American interests are involved; what long-held moral values — Just War Theory — apply, and whether or not the voices of the American people are fully and honestly informed and acknowledged before the decision to kill other people’s babies is implemented?

    How about the rights of Syrian children to grow up, free of fear of American bombs destroying their homes, families, dreams and lives?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  127. @SolontoCroesus

    The Children who Marched for their Lives registered their distrust of government:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/18/us/national-student-walkout-womens-march-trnd/index.html

    “My innocence, our innocence has been taken from us. I am 17 but in a matter of days I have aged decades. Where is the common sense in these laws? Because of the systematic failure of our government on every level, people are dying every day.” -female, long blonde hair, big glasses

    How many Syrian 17-year olds would have the chance to “age decades” if your government attacks Syria, Ms. blonde hair & glasses?

    “People in the government who were voted into power are lying and us kids seem to be the only ones who notice and our parents and we call BS. They say that no law could have averted the senseless violence that occurred.
    We Call BS!

    That us kids don’t know what we’re talking about, that we’re too young to understand how the government works.
    We Call BS!

    If you agree, . . . contact your local congresspeople, give them a piece of your mind!” – Emma González

    How about the notion that Assad, on the cusp of victory, gassed his own people — BS, Emma González?

    Is your government, the people elected to represent you, lying to you yet again?

    “This is a time to take action.” – David Hogg

    What action will you take, David Hogg, to avert the destruction of yet another population in the Middle East, under the military assault weapons of US forces and their allies?

    • Replies: @FB
    , @jacques sheete
  128. FB says:

    ‘…How about the rights of Syrian children to grow up, free of fear of American bombs destroying their homes, families, dreams and lives?..’

    It’s not just American bombs killing Syrian children…let’s not forget the head-choppers that the USA sponsors and has been sponsoring these past seven years…the so-called moderate ‘rebels’…

    What really galls me is how stupid they take us to be…

    Eastern Ghouta has a population of 400,000…over 150,000 civilians have left into the arms of the government as soon as the headchoppers agreed to let them go…and agreed to be evacuated with their headchopper families and light arms…

    The total amount of headchoppers, their families and sympathizers has so far been about 40,000…

    So do the math…40,000 head choppers were holding 360,000 civilians hostage…

    Yet we never here these plain facts hiding in plain view…this is sickening…

  129. FB says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    ‘…How about the notion that Assad, on the cusp of victory, gassed his own people..?’

  130. chris says:
    @jacques sheete

    Very good point, Jacques, but I would go further and say that you couldn’t embark on building the colossal empire without a strong and faithful propaganda arm. The prestitute media is as much a requirement of the empire as the weapons and the soldiers.

    • Agree: jacques sheete, Rurik
  131. denk says:
    @denk

    The comment about Hitler is the author’s own pov,

    Even tho I’ve not done much research into that area,
    What I do know is much of WW2 ‘history’ was just the winners [fukus] narrative.

    Meaning highly suspect !

  132. Robjil says:

    The Ziowest likes to attack on holidays. This “gas” attack happened on the Last day of Passover and on Orthodox Easter Good Friday. Purim attacks – Iraq invasion 1991 ended on Purim, Iraq invasion 2003 started on Purim, Libya bombed on Purim Eve 2011 and Dresden was bombed on
    2/14-15/45 on Purim, Ash Wednesday, and Valentines Day – the Zio-west had a trio of holidays for that holocaust. On Purim 2018, Putin gave his big speech about weapons he has as a warning. He knows how the Ziowest loves Purim for war games.

    The Zios also likes to play with numbers too. The 70th anniversary of the founding of Israel is on 5/14/18. The gas attack this year happened on the 7th day of the 4th month. Haley talked about this happening last year exactly the same time. In 2017, the US bombed Syria on the 7th day of the 4th month . She went on and on about it being exactly a year later like it was big deal for her to do some “work”. MLK had a similar deal with ZUS. He gave his Beyond Vietnam speech on 4/4/67. He said that the US is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world. It still is 51 years later. He was assassinated by the US deep state exactly a year later on 4/4/68. His speech for that day was “America is going to Hell”. I guess the ZUS deep state likes year anniversaries for its terror games. It is odd that the “gas” attack last year happened on 4/4/17. Two fours again.

    Number 11

    The number 11 is a number that often comes up for ZUS terror attacks – 911 and 9/11/73 Chile coup and 11/22/63 – JFK assassination. 11 and two 11s (22).

    The criminals of the Zio-west may plan an attack on Syria on 4/11/18 – another 11.

    33 number

    4/11/18 is exactly 33 days from the 70th anniversary of Israel’s founding. 33 is considered 3 11s in numerology.

    David reigned for 33 years in Jerusalem. (1 Ch 3,4) . The Hebraic tradition distinguishes 32 ways of the Wisdom to which it adds “Ain Soph” or the unknowable one. So 33 again.

    Trump must have purposely put the US embassy in Jerusalem to get ready for this “big” anniversary. In order to “celebrate” the 33 years of David’s rulership of Jerusalem with perhaps an “invasion” of Syria 33 days before the “big” day. Hope it does not happen. But with all the insane chatter coming from the ruling Ziowest crazies at the UN on 4/9/18 it does not give much hope for any humane or rational thinking to come from the Ziowest.

    Other 33s – 233 is Skull and Bones. 33 is the highest level for Masons.

    6 number

    6 points of the Star of David, D-day was on 6/6/44 – 6th day, 6th month, 6th hour. 666. Operation Overlord it was called. 6 million for the Holocaust.

    Number 7

    Israel’s 70th anniversary must be a very “big” deal for Ziowest. The number 7 is another trigger number for them. Here is Christiane Lagarde talking about how great the number seven is on Jan. 2014. 2014 was the start of the intense anti-Russia hysteria we have today, it started that year when the US backed Banderists took over Ukraine on 2/22/14. That is an odd number combination. 11 number again, 22 is considered 2 x 11 by our ruling Zio-numerologists.

    The Zios are definitely playing games with numbers like they have some “magical” powers.

    • Replies: @Linda Green
  133. @Randal

    Wow! I guess I have to start following Tucker Carlson! Hope doesn’t get himself axed – literally and figuratively!

  134. @FB

    “How stupid is…”

    Maybe were gonna find out. There are reports (don’t know if they are true) a Russian SU-34 carrying Kh-35u or Kh-38 air launch anti ship missiles has been spotted over Tartus. Apparently the Russians are going to make a fight of it, even if substantially out gunned in the region.

  135. @SolontoCroesus

    That us kids don’t know what we’re talking about, that we’re too young to understand how the government works.
    We Call BS!

    If you agree, . . . contact your local congresspeople, give them a piece of your mind!” – Emma González

    Advising folks to contact their local congresscreep in the wild hope that it’ll improve anything proves that she doesn’t understand how government works.

  136. @Herald

    Yeah, I’m obviously Hasbara. Well spotted.

    • Replies: @Herald
  137. FB says:

    Breaking news…

    European air traffic authorities issues alert for Eastern Mediterranean due to possible airstrikes on Syria in the the next 72 hours…

    EASA [European Aviation Safety Agency] rapid notification alert…

    ‘…due to the possible launch of airstrikes with air-to-ground and/or cruise missiles within the next 72 hours, and the possibility of intermittent disruption of radio navigation equipment, due consideration needs to be taken when palnning flight operations in the Eastern Mediterranean/Nicosia FIR area…’

    [FIR stands for flight information region...]

  138. Seriously, I think the idea that it was actually food poisoning that retroactively became “a Russian assassination attempt” seems very plausible.

    • Agree: Randal
    • Replies: @Randal
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  139. @Randal

    Go George! It is refreshing to see that at least one of our cousins from across the pond is still in command of their reasoning capabilities. Harsh? I love it that he doesn’t mince words and calls an idiot an idiot – and deservedly so.

    Oh, to have more like him over here on our side of the water!

    • Replies: @Randal
  140. @Simon in London

    “I do think it’s most likely the person who actually poisoned them was not an employee of any agency.”

    It’s also possible that nobody was poisoned and that nothing happened involving any nerve agent at all. May has shown herself to be the worst kind of liar., and the British press is as rotten as the US press is. I don’t believe any of this bullshit, because none of it makes any sense at all.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  141. Sparkon says:

    04/10/2018, 07:52am
    Ex-spy’s daughter released from British hospital
    Yulia Skripal, the daughter of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal

    Yulia Skripal, who was targeted along with her father in a nerve agent [sic] attack in England, has been discharged from the hospital, a British health official said Tuesday. | Yulia Skripal/Facebook via AP
    Gregory Katz | AP

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/yulia-skripal-daughter-ex-russian-spy-released-hospital-poisoned-nerve-agent/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  142. @Mike P

    You ARE kidding, aren’t you? Starting a world war to keep a few football teams from being embarrassed is a bit of a stretch.

  143. @JoaoAlfaiate

    Saddam’s WMD, Gulf of Tonkin, etc., etc. And now a ridiculous false flag attack in Syria. Did it take place at all?

    And so it goes and continues to go, because this has worked since the last century. We have been reduced to an unquestioning blob of biological mass, incapable of reasoning, glued to the boob tube, engrossed in the scandals of celebrities.

    Did it take place at all? Did the holocaust take place at all? Was Hitler evil?
    Enquiring minds want to know.

  144. @OMG

    Not just gas, but its use against children.

    They are pulling at all the hearstrings, but for some reason not enough of us are buying the party line.

  145. @Svigor

    I hope you get the chance. Once you’ve shared that foxhole, you can come back and tell us what it’s like to be gang shagged by a half dozen IDF troopers you thought were your homies.

    • LOL: Kolo
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  146. @jacques sheete

    wearing baggy pants and sharing his bunghole

    LOL! You come up with such unique phrases that produce unerasable mental images for the reader!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  147. @anonymous

    As do we all –

    Only Christ if invited stands at our stead.

  148. @FB

    Used up my LOL button! That is a funny cartoon – I am keeping it!

  149. @ChuckOrloski

    Clinton’s serious crimes weren’t investigated by “The Bulldog”. Instead he was given an out by being charged with lying about sex with an intern. Clinton could have been tried on charges of serious crimes including accessory to murder if not for the creativity of his “accusers” in government who saw to it that all he was ever accused of doing was cheating on his wife and trying to cover that up.

  150. @Rurik

    I understand your key point perfectly – and you’re right, of course. Their deliberate, considered, ruthless, godless, degenerate evil is the overriding reason why a bullet in the head is simply far too good for these traitorous, nation-wrecking filth.

  151. There’s a subconscious racism in the way liberal westerners treat Russia. Saudis execute gays and transsexuals but the West focuses on Russian “homophobia,” which amounts to little more than discouraging gay pride marches and sexual orientation education to children. China has open censorship of the media and doesn’t even have elections, yet the West imposes sanctions on semi-democratic Russia and trades freely with China. Islamists are taking over in Turkey, yet liberal westerners attack the Russian Orthodox Church for spreading moderately conservative values.

    Basically Russia is bad because it’s a white country that’s relatively conservative and does things a bit differently than other white countries. Non-white countries can do whatever they like because they aren’t white as so can’t be expected to live up to western liberal values.

  152. @Mike P

    Don’t know how true it is, but this is what Veterans Today says about the captured spooks and weapons lab:

    Russia also confirms that there are British, American, Israeli and Saudi intelligence officers who were caught by the Syrian army in one of the heavily fortified operations rooms during the invasion of the Syrian army and its allies of the East Ghouta.”

    American, British and Israeli military personnel captured in Syria have confirmed they were ordered to stage chemical attacks in East Ghouta by their governments.

    The Americans are still being held along with Israeli’s while British prisoners are being negotiated for. Sources in Damascus told us that representatives of Oman in Damascus approached the Russian Office of Reconciliation on behalf of Britain for the return of British chemical warfare personnel.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/03/14/trumps-jihadi-chemical-weapons-factory-captured-in-ghouta-in-living-color/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/08/proof-intel-drop-trump-bolton-behind-syria-chemical-attacks-confirmed/

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Mike P
  153. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    Another reason I share the old stuff is that it shows that we shouldn’t be so smug.

    you’re absolutely right of course. And it’s enlightening to read the stuff you post, to say the least.

    I don’t always delve deeply into all of them, because I have to journey down the rabbit hole gently, careful not to get too cynical, but please do keep posting your gems, Jacques. You’re doing your part to edify a lot of people, (myself included) into many otherwise cryptic truths.

    All history that is potentially inconvenient to the PTB is always passed over, if not memory-holed altogether. And we need to know where we came from, if we’re ever going to navigate where we’re going.

    Or, more humbly, simply to glimmer what’s going on, and why, for sanity’s sake.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  154. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    goyim suffer gratuitously to satiate their insatiable barbarity.

    it’s all in the Old Testament.

    it reads like a twisted descent of a psychopaths’ journey into sadistic madness. Rape and torture and gratuitous slaughter. Genocide and vengeance and slavery, child rape and mass murder.

    Tribal barbarism run amok, and they worship it! Nay, they worship themselves, or at least that part of themselves that’s the most megalomaniacal, loathsome and vain.

    in fact, doesn’t that quintessentially describe Bibi? Megalomaniacal, loathsome and vain?

    oh, and murderous, genocidal, cruel, criminal, psychopathic…

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  155. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    China again showed that is a petty US COLONY

    [Russia on Tuesday vetoed a US-drafted United Nations Security Council resolution that would have set up an investigation into chemical weapons use in Syria following an alleged toxic gas attack in rebel-held Douma.
    It was the 12th time that Russia has used its veto power at the council to block action targeting its Syrian ally.

    Twelve of the 15 council members backed the measure, including France, Britain, African countries, Kazakhstan and Kuwait. Bolivia voted against the draft resolution, while China abstained.]

    Why petty China always cave in with US. In the latest resolution China AGAIN abstained. China is a petty colony and people must boycott its garbage, that is called goods. Chinese criminal ‘leaders’ still have their slave mentality. They are nothing but petty slaves in the service of the mass murderers.
    They also voted for illegal sanctions against Iran, N. Korea and any other country that American criminals and mass murderers wanted to kill their children. Chinese petty ‘leaders’ are as criminals as US mass murderers. Down with petty colonies and cowards chinese ‘leaders’.

    Even Bolivia, a small country has more courage than the petty chinses. Long live Bolivia

    • Replies: @MacNucc11
  156. I just want to express, as I did yesterday to Colonel Lang, my deepest respect and admiration for Phil Giraldi’s human and professional integrity–you are truly honorable man, Phil. It is a sad fact that people of your qualities, both human and professional, are not in power in this country.

    • Agree: geokat62
  157. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    The reason Muslims are overrunning many parts of England (and Sweden and Germany and France and elsewhere) isn’t because the people doing it (the Blairs and Bushes) love Muslims. Hardly. Rather the motivations for the massive migrations (of Muslims and Africans and S. Americans and everybody else they can get) into all Western nations are motivated by a pure, incomprehensibly Satanic hatred for the people of the West.

    They’d use Martians if that was all that was available in order to see England destroyed, and sent reeling into a nightmare, Orwellian dystopia.

    PRECISELY RIGHT.

    Never underestimate the raw, visceral hatred of Leftists who were disappointed in their revolutionary expectations of the “working class.”

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  158. Randal says:
    @Simon in London

    Seriously, I think the idea that it was actually food poisoning that retroactively became “a Russian assassination attempt” seems very plausible.

    I’m tending that way at the moment as well. The question I suppose is, is it better to think you have a government of incompetent buffoons or of evil conspirators?

    Either I suppose would be better than what we have – incompetent evil buffoonish conspirators.

    Seriously, it’s genuinely embarrassing having that lot in charge of my country.

  159. @Giuseppe

    What is going on you say? the Jewish lobby AKA Israel lobby is going on.

    Sadam’s Iraq, Gaddafi’s Libya, Mubarak’s Egypt, Rouhani’s and Khamenei’s Iran and Assad’s Syria: three first are gone through either direct military “humanitarian” interventions or CIA instigated “color” revolutions. The last two are on the verge of another “humanitarian” military intervention instigated by the Jewish lobby, because all five have been and last two still are historical Israel’s foes.

    Rouhani’s and Khamenei’s Iran:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/world/middleeast/iran-ayatollah-khamenei-israel-will-not-exist.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iranian-president-hasan-rouhani-israel-is-a-wound-on-the-body-of-the-islamic-world-8743751.html

    Mubarak’s Egypt:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/mubarak-i-started-the-yom-kippur-war-2/

    Gaddafi’s Libya:

    http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Libyas-Gaddafi-had-a-history-of-reaching-out-to-Israel-451214

    Saddam’s Iraq:

    Since coming to power, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had been a leader of the rejectionist Arab states and one of the most belligerent foes of Israel

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-gulf-war

    This has the Lobby’s fingerprints all over. It’s a bit shocking that seemingly smart and sensible people such as yourself are still wondering and asking the internet “What is going on?”

    Harvard’s JFK School of Government professor of International Affairs Stephen Walt and Chicago University professor of Political Sciences John Mearsheimer explain clearly in their 2006 paper what the Jewish lobby is and what exactly is its modus operandi to steer US foreign policy in Israel’s favour.

    The following link brings to a comment of mine explaining what the Lobby is and how effectively operates to steer US foreign policy through four excerpts from their well researched 2006 paper The Israel Lobby

    http://www.unz.com/article/what-the-alt-right-and-regressive-left-have-in-common/#comment-2276493

    The Israeli government and pro-Israel groups in the United States have worked together to shape the administration’s policy towards Iraq, Syria and Iran, as well as its grand scheme for reordering the Middle East.

    Pressure from Israel and the Lobby was not the only factor behind the decision to attack Iraq in March 2003, but it was critical. Some Americans believe that this was a war for oil, but there is hardly any direct evidence to support this claim. Instead, the war was motivated in good part by a desire to make Israel more secure. According to Philip Zelikow, a former member of the president’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, and now a counsellor to Condoleezza Rice, the ‘real threat’ from Iraq was not a threat to the United States. The ‘unstated threat’ was the ‘threat against Israel’, Zelikow told an audience at the University of Virginia in September 2002. ‘The American government,’ he added, ‘doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell.’

    http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

  160. Another step closer to the totalitarian state

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/homeland-security-to-compile-database-of-journalists-and-media-influencers/

    The Department of Homeland Security wants to track the comings and goings of journalists, bloggers and other “media influencers” through a database.

  161. @Simon in London

    I’d like to think that (mussel toxins can be deadly, IIRC they ate mussel paella) but the police officer falling ill ?

    (Not that I believe anything the UK government says any more, either on this subject or Syria. Assad had zero motive for such an attack when he’s winning comfortably, the EUSA/Israel/Saudi axis have every motive for there to be such an attack, precisely because Assad’s winning)

  162. Sparkon says:

    Red Crescent Says No Evidence of Chemical Attack in Syria’s Douma

    Patients treated by aid group not exposed to any chemical agents
    Jason Ditz Posted on April 9, 2018

    The Syrian Red Crescent issued a statement Monday dismissing the allegations of a weekend chemical weapon attack in the city of Douma. The statement insisted their medical personnel in the city had found no evidence any such attack took place.

    https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/09/red-crescent-says-no-evidence-of-chemical-attack-in-syrias-douma/

    You might think it would be easier if not more foolproof for the warmongers to stage a fake chemical attack in Syria by 2018 than it was staging the false flag attack on the WTC in 2001, but even this simple but bogus narrative crumbles under perfunctory inspection, and the lies stick out like a pitchfork in a goat’s ass, or UA 175 stuck in the middle at WTC 2, a lie for the ages frozen in pixels.

    Not that obvious lies have been any detriment to the warmongers of the past, even when George W. Bush told his whopper about watching the first WTC crash on the boob tube because “the TV was obviously on.”

    Well, Shrub is part of the ruling oligarchy, so he’s an untouchable with royal jelly or something, like Blair, who probably caught it from the Queen.

    In October 2001, Rudy Giuliani was even knighted by Her Royal Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, who bestowed upon the NYC mayor the modest title of Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire ostensibly for his “outstanding help and support to the bereaved British families in New York.”

    Of course, successful destruction of WTC evidence had nothing to do with Rudy’s award in the same way that BBC’s foreknowledge of WTC 7′s destruction was just one of those doggone quirky things that happen, during false flags, when the evils hacks can’t get their timing right.

    Just one more thing. I noticed that the slim 9/11 articles section has been removed from the front page at Unz Review. Linh Dinh’s article from August 13, 2017 “George Orwell and Mohammed Atta Were Here” can be found under his name, as can the earlier sole entry in the now-defunct 9/11 section, author Philip Giraldi’s 10-25-2016 article “9/11 Truth?” which drew over 1,000 comments.

  163. Randal says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Go George! It is refreshing to see that at least one of our cousins from across the pond is still in command of their reasoning capabilities. Harsh? I love it that he doesn’t mince words and calls an idiot an idiot – and deservedly so.

    He’s one in a million, that’s for sure. I respect him hugely (and that’s despite the fact I hate his general politics).

    I recall his performance in front of your Senate in 2005 when he basically tore them a new one. If you haven’t seen it, it’s worth a watch:

    (Galloway’s on from around 6:30)

    As for Carlson, I like his overall politics much better and I’ve seen a few good performances from him, but with this particular one, given the context and timing, he earned Galloway-like status imo, in the sense that he deserves respect from both sides of the partisan political divide.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  164. densa says:

    After seeing the 3 Stooges, May, Macron and Trump, locking arms to start another war, I’d like ours (Larry?) to know that if he becomes a wartime president, it will be difficult to spend weekends in Mar Largo golfing. Think about it.

  165. @Zogby

    So are you implicitly suggesting Putin tried to kill a Mr Nobody with… wait for it… a f*cking military grade nerve agent with 10x the power of VX!? and failed to kill the tough-as-nails Skripal after succesful delivery!? and his daughter!?

    Come on now. Honest.

    Are you f*cking kidding me!?

    Besides that, they do have special compounds that give you a good ol’ heart attack and leave no trace, you silly boy. They had them in the 70′s, God knows what they’ve got now.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=BSEnurBApdM

    • Replies: @Joe Correa
  166. gp says:

    “the fact that a military grade nerve agent would have surely killed both the Skripals as well as anyone else within 100 yards”

    Depends on the dose and route of administration. Article fail.

    • Replies: @Joe Correa
  167. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sparkon

    British officials may feel Sergei Skripal would not be safe to live openly in England any longer.

    Indeed, it would not be safe FOR THE BRITISH SECURITY SERVICES to have Sergei Skripal alive and talking.

    Anyone still betting that Yulia and Sergei will ever be seen again?

  168. Herald says:
    @Simon in London

    Your admission is clearly meant as a double bluff and cuts no ice with me.

  169. Svigor says:

    I hope you get the chance. Once you’ve shared that foxhole, you can come back and tell us what it’s like to be gang shagged by a half dozen IDF troopers you thought were your homies.

    Zionists (I’m talking Israelis here, not diaspora Jewish “leftist” phonies) take their own side in a fight. White Nationalists take their own side in a fight. Leftists are swivel-eyed maniacs; religious zealots with no love of their own kind, only their Holy Writ.

    Zionists currently think their best move is to side with the leftists, because diaspora Jewry. They think they’ll be eaten last, something like that. So a conversation with a Zionist is ultimately about tactics, not motives. Leftists speak a whole other, alien language. There’s no reasoning with them.

    A pox on both their houses, but I stand by what I said; I’d rather share a foxhole with a Zionist.

    Say what you will about the Israelis, but I don’t see them on TUR calling Trump’s wall “crazy.”

    Besides that, they do have special compounds that give you a good ol’ heart attack and leave no trace, you silly boy. They had them in the 70′s, God knows what they’ve got now.

    I love how obtuse Konspiracy Kooks are. The only idiots on the planet who haven’t heard of signature killings intended to send a message. Konspiracy Kooks: “WTF? Why would drug dealers behead people or give them Colombian neck ties when bullets are so much more efficient, and don’t send a message? LOLZ.”

    Dumb fucks.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @Joe Correa
    , @L.K
  170. @gp

    Of course, having engineered undetectable toxins that give heart attacks since the 70′s it is only logical that a smart guy like Putin would have used a totally detectable and difficult to deliver and mortally dangerous to manipulate such as a nerve gas 10x as powerful as VX.

    Not to talk about the social panic and international drama created if discovered, which surely would because the guy had been a double agent.

    Your brain fail.

    • Agree: Herald
  171. @Anonymous

    One of these days I am going to stop doing this (it seems to be a fool’s errand, but hopefully there’s some chaotic positive side-effect)… but here goes (again) –

    dishonest incompetence among our globalist “elites”

    One of the biggest category errors that people make when considering the political class, is that the chaos that they generate is the result of ‘incompetence’ (or ‘stupidity’, or some other such trope).

    In fact, even though they are – by and large – second- and third-quintile talent, they are ruthlessly competent… so long as you premise things correctly and have a decent guess as to what their objectives are.

    That’s the key thing: their objectives are not what most normal people are led to believe. We’re encouraged to think that the political class give a flying rat’s ass about ‘national greatness’ (or even less plausibly, social welfare/public will/public good etc).

    They don’t. Their objectives are all about themselves - their wealth, their social power, and their in-group reputation (among their peers, which does not include us). Blair, Bush, Straw, Hoon, Howard, Addington, Yoo, bybee. Feith, Bolton, Cheney and everyone else involved in the Iraq and Afghanistan war crimes, are doing just fine thank you very much.

    So there is no “dishonest incompetence”; there is dishonesty - as a noun – absolutely; but one thing about megalomaniacal sociopaths is that they have intense goal-focus and they dedicate that to ensuring extreme competence.

    …they don’t care about credibility going forward. Like it won’t matter.

    No, they absolutely don’t care about credibility (‘national’ or personal), because it absolutely won’t matter – to them, as far as their ability to achieve their actual, personal goals is concerned.

    They know that they will leave their tax-fed positions far richer than can be explained by any plausible combinations of savings rates and rates of return; they will also be exculpated (or at the very least, not inculpated) and their public image will be given a makeover (for a price). Bush is a perfect example: his approval rating is almost 3x its level when he left office (59% now, vs 22% then).

    Adjust your conceptual framework: try to see the world through the eyes of an individual for whom a dead baby is a photo opportunity.

    Then, and only then, will you cease to be surprised, shocked, saddened [insert inappropriate emotional trope here]… you might be (as I am, often) outraged, but that would be entirely appropriate.

    • Agree: HogHappenin
  172. @Twodees Partain

    I hope you get the chance. Once you’ve shared that foxhole, you can come back and tell us what it’s like to be gang shagged by a half dozen IDF troopers you thought were your homies.

    Too funny.

    However, when he does that, let me know; I do not want to hear the details!

  173. @Cloak And Dagger

    LOL! You come up with such unique phrases that produce unerasable mental images for the reader!

    I try, but it’s a difficult battle since the Izzy-firsters, Zio-trolls and other imbeciles have so little by way of mentation to work with.

    Worse, they probably think I’m complimenting them!

  174. @Rurik

    Bless you and please keep posting! Your insights are valuable to me, and no doubt to many others.

  175. @Rurik

    in fact, doesn’t that quintessentially describe Bibi? Megalomaniacal, loathsome and vain?

    A positively loathsome PoS.

    I’d love to see that smirk wiped off its face permanently.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  176. @Cloak And Dagger

    We have been reduced to an unquestioning blob of biological mass, incapable of reasoning, glued to the boob tube, engrossed in the scandals of celebrities.

    It’s not clear to me that we have ‘been reduced to’ this; it seems to me that it has been ever thus. (Obviously nobody was glued to the boob tube prior to the late 1920s… but still).

    1991′s “Babies from Incubators” (a Hill & Knowlton/Tom Lantos co-production) is a re-make of “Huns Bayonetting Babies” from WWI; the “questioning is treason” trope has been around since Sparta.

    Also, there have always – always - been people who could see through the bullshit; in WWI in Australia, they were sent white feathers and accused of cowardice, for the supreme crime of having the good sense not to involve themselves in a pissing contest between 3 European cousins.

    The cognitive bifurcation in humanity is, in all likelihood, not ‘getting worse’ – except relative to a brief period in the late 20th century. It’s more likely that it is returning to something approaching its natural level.

    It bounced around during the 20th century – the dummies became a larger proportion of the population when child mortality was dramatically reduced; then there was a wholesale change in the reproductive strategies of the dummies in the 1960s (after which women could surreptitiously control their fertility using contraceptives: they could have sex without procreating)… which reduced the fertility rate of the bottom half of the IQ distribution.

    Now, the cognitive profile of the West seems to be heading back to what it was at the start of the 20th century: the bottom 30% of the IQ distribution are at a higher base level than back then, but they’re still not much good for anything except cannon fodder… and we don’t do large-scale land wars anymore.

  177. @Simon in London

    Bernhard over at his blog, Moon of Alabama, is advocating for the poisoning being real, but being traceable to shellfish poisoning. The Skripals had a shellfish dish at a local restaurant about 40 minutes prior to their discovery on the park bench. While very serious, and potentially fatal, if addressed with respiratory and cardiac support in a timely fashion, this poisoning is survivable.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/the-best-explanation-for-the-skripal-drama-is-food-poisoning.html

    The toxin involved in classic shellfish poisoning is a naturally occurring neurotoxin, Saxitoxin, which agent remains toxic even after boiling or steaming, exactly the food preparation techniques likely to be employed in preparing shellfish for consumption. This is, indeed, what makes it so pernicious.

    That the Brits, primed for lies in aid of the Hate On The Rooskies campaign, lit on their story is unsurprising. Of course, the denial of the authorities at the hospital that anyone , the Skripals and the supposedly affected policeman, was suffering from exposure to a chemical weapon, along with the refusal of Porton Down officials to lend credence to the hoo haw that this was surely traceable to Novichok series chemical agents identifiably produced by the Russians kind of shot some holes in the big lies.

    Anyway, cast an eye at the post at Moon of Alabama. Bernhard is pretty damn good at winnowing facts from the chaff of propaganda, and when he makes a mistake, he openly confesses it instead of doubling down on a falsehood.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  178. @Sparkon

    Red Crescent Says No Evidence of Chemical Attack in Syria’s Douma
    Patients treated by aid group not exposed to any chemical agents
    Jason Ditz Posted on April 9, 2018
    The Syrian Red Crescent issued a statement Monday dismissing the allegations of a weekend chemical weapon attack in the city of Douma. The statement insisted their medical personnel in the city had found no evidence any such attack took place.

    https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/09/red-crescent-says-no-evidence-of-chemical-attack-in-syrias-douma/

    Crisis Group’s Sam Heller wordsmiths a different question, the next question:
    Can the U.S. Respond to the Syria Chemical Weapons Attack without Risking Escalation?

    After a seemingly sanguine introduction –

    So far, no international party has said definitively or presented conclusive evidence that the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was responsible for the chemical weapons use. . . .

    Heller tightens the frame to fit a preconceived image:

    While the lack of access makes it difficult to immediately verify, chemical weapons use would be consistent with past behaviour by the Syrian government. The government has repeatedly employed chlorine and, more infrequently, sarin gas against areas under rebel control, as documented by nonpartisan international bodies such as the United Nations-established Joint Investigative Mechanism and the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic. Chemical attacks fit within a broader strategy the government has used of targeting civilians and fighters alike in rebel-held areas. Through brutal means, this strategy renders these areas highly dangerous and ultimately unlivable, permitting no viable alternative to government control.

    That last bit is problematic: if gassed “areas are rendered unlivable,” will the British be holding hosts of quiet funerals for fallen White Helmet rescuers who entered the areas and came in body-contact with victims?

    Heller next constructs a scenario intended to provide a rationale for the Syrian government to have made the attack, then reports that

    “Syria’s T-4 airbase was hit by an apparent Israeli airstrike on the morning of 9 April, although it remains unclear whether the strike was related to the Douma chemical attack. . . .from Lebanese airspace . . . killing seven Iranians. . . . “

    Though Israel declined to comment, Heller noted that

    “Israel also struck the T-4 base in February, after an Iranian drone it said was launched from the base entered Israeli airspace.

    If all is fair in love and war, one must forebear pointing out the hypocrisy of Israel attacking a Syrian target from Lebanese airspace in retaliation for Iran flying drones over Israeli airspace. However, the same logic conveys the right to Iran and/or Syria and/or Russia to attack an Israeli launching site in retaliation for its attacks on Syria.

    But even wars have rules, that civilized people comply with — statesmen like Sergei Lavrov and Vladimir Putin understand this. But when the adversary/aggressor is a psychopath who disdains convention’s rules and limits, then what?

    Israel is not like a drunk or addict that has hit the wall — such a person is, at that point, ready for intensive rehabilitation. But a psychopath is not in that category.

    What huge imago made
    A psychopathic god?
    – W H Auden

    How does one deal with a psychopath?
    How does one deal with a rabid dog? Can a rabid dog be medicated, or re-trained?
    What signals do Israelis send about how an entity that fails to comply with demanded norms should be treated? Israelis insist that such entities respond “only to force.” Projection may be as close to insight as a psychopath can get.

    If it is the case that Israel can only be dealt with by force, that the rabid dog must be put down, then what are we to make of Phil Weiss’s recent claim that Israel’s attacks on Palestinians has caused American Jews to distance themselves from Israel.
    Does that mean they will ignore the mad dog as long as it does not roam on their street, or does that mean they will agree that for the good of their own neighborhood as well as the entire community, the dog must be put down?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Twodees Partain
  179. Generally, a good article. But the author is wrong in one thing: clumsy fake with Skripals is not the latest chapter. The latest is surprisingly clumsy (even for White Helmets, well known for the poor quality of their fakes) fake about alleged gas attack in Douma, Syria. As Syrian and Russian troops captured a lot of the chemical weapons containers with stuff (all made in “democratic” countries) belonging to head-choppers, they had to do without any props. Besides, head-choppers are right now surrendering Douma to the Syrian government. Naturally, nothing was spread in Douma, so the video had to be hastily concocted somewhere else. Pathetic quality shows that the makeshift studio used was not conducive even to their usual low level of fakes: the video is dismal, only bought and paid for “people” can possibly believe it. As we see, Macron, Merkel, and May are indeed bought and paid for.

  180. Randal says:
    @Svigor

    I love how obtuse Konspiracy Kooks are. The only idiots on the planet who haven’t heard of signature killings intended to send a message. Konspiracy Kooks: “WTF? Why would drug dealers behead people or give them Colombian neck ties when bullets are so much more efficient, and don’t send a message? LOLZ.”

    Dumb fucks.

    Of course, one major advantage of the “signature killings” to which you refer is that they actually kill the target, unlike (we are supposed to believe) this super duper 8-10 times as deadly as VX compound the Russians supposedly tried to use in their signature bumbling but at the same time cunningly evil manner.

    Interesting to see you seemingly backing the (literally stupid) government line on this. If there are “Konspiracy Kooks” in this case, it’s certainly the people who actually believe the nonsense put about by the May government and all the usual suspects about a supposed Russian conspiracy to create a disastrous diplomatic mess in the process of trying to use a fantastically complicated scheme to kill a former spy they clearly didn’t care much about and whom the UK intel people clearly didn’t think was at all at risk (for all their transparent lies after the fact about a supposed “pattern” of Russian killings of such people) since they were quite happy for him to live openly under his own name, without protection and with his address a matter of public record.

    So you’re a Konspiracy Kook, eh? I suppose that means you believe the remarkably similar nonsense about the Assad government launching chemical attacks whenever it’s most disadvantageous for them and most useful for the usual warmongering suspects? Seems odd to believe in one daft Konspiracy Theory without adding the other one as well, since they are superficially so similar and seem to appeal to broadly the same types of people.

    I hadn’t realised you were suffering so badly from Putin Derangement Syndrome.

  181. @Svigor

    Who is a konspiracy kook? follow the link to the Congressional hearing starting at second 20 you shit-for-brains muppet.

    What is the point of sending a message brainiac? Lets see, mafia bosses send messages to would be informants and to would be transgressors of the underworld’s unwritten laws.

    What was the fucking point of killing this nobody in such a silly way, you silly man?!

    Was it then to send the World the clear message “Putin is a mafia boss and Russia a mafia state”?

    That is not how democratic, respectable governments operate, but mafia states, organized crime groups and dictatorships. Democratic governments kill covertly when the target is in a Western country.

    If your transgression was public and outrageous enough or your persona was publicly demonised enough and if you are located in a developing country, they just drone your ass Jihadi John’s style, or have you raped with a bayonet Gaddafi style. They would never ever do that if the target is in a Western country! really bad diplomatic backlash and a PR disaster!

    Hasn’t been the anti Russia propaganda narrative that Putin was a quasi dictator and that Russia was a mafia state? Why in the world would he want to reinforce that image you muppet?

    Colombian ties? leftists are swivel-eyed maniacs? ahaha give me a fucking break. You have seen definitely too many movies and the Sopranos episodes, muppet. Your mushy brains are ready to serve. What a fish you are my boy.

    • Replies: @Kolo
  182. anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    I’m no royalist but wonder at that old-fashioned Irish-Americanistic jibe. A hag because she’s 90+ though still as well presented as any Hollywood star who starts looking pretty good, doesn’t take drugs, and lives a long time? Moreover it is hard to think of anyone else who might beat Mother Theresa for living a long life of duty fulfilled. I am a ĺittle puzzled too at how a smiley emoji is meant to qualify calling someone a hag.

  183. L.K says:
    @Giuseppe

    Such has indeed been the MO for over 120 years… others, such as the British, have acted in similar ways as well. What better example than all the manipulation by the Roosevelt administration to get a war started in Europe and then to bring the ZUS into it? The following video addresses some of the Roosevelt’s administration tactics, must watch:
    How U.S. Economic Warfare Provoked Japan’s Attack on Pearl Harbor | Robert Higgs – MisesMedia

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
  184. @Anonymous

    Never underestimate the raw, visceral hatred of Leftists who were disappointed in their revolutionary expectations of the “working class.”

    Those swine never gave a damn about the working class; their concerns were used merely as pretexts by the ruling classes to consolidate more wealth and power into their own hands.

    I could not at that time know, as I did later, how men of wealth use the communist movement to bend workers to their will. So I quite willingly adopted the clichés about secrecy being necessary because of the brutality and savagery of the working-class enemies. I soon learned that the members exposed to the public were not the important Communists. [ Most of whom were Red millionaires as a matter of fact.]

    -Bella Dodd, School of Darkness, Ch 6

    “These people will take you and use you, Bella,” he warned me, “and then they will throw you away.”
    A new period was at hand, a period of extremes, when the united front of Communists and the forces of national unity in the United States were to work together to win the war.

    -Bella Dodd, School of Darkness Chap 9

    the gullible Izzy first and Zio-sucker hasbara punks have yet to realize how they’re being used and will be tossed aside eventually.

  185. Joe Wong says:
    @Anonymous

    Your decrying confirms that the British has done something wrong and they did poison Skripals in Salisbury England. This unscrupulous false flag op, crying foul and smearing the innocent for the crime they committed relentlessly is a special signature of the British/Anglo culture and trait. The following history provides the evidence the above is not allegation but fact.

    Nov 24, 1784, a British gunner on the ship “Lady Hughes” fired cannon against Chinese law and killed two Chinese in Guangzhou. The British refused to hand over the gunner to the Chinese authority for trail and called up few hundred armed sailors to stop the Chinese authority from searching the perpetrator in the British warehouses and living compound.

    Anyhow the British was outwitted and the perpetrator was tried by the Chinese, convicted and executed in according to the Chinese law; during that time the British law also gave death penalty for the same crime.

    The British had been trampling other people’s sovereignty and law like India with impunity for a couple of hundreds of years already by then. Never a British was tried and punished for the crimes, murder or not, they committed since they supplanted the Spanish. British viewed themselves above all human beings and not bound by any other people’s law. The execution of the gunner made the British Council of Supercargos feel humiliated and devastated as well as being impotent and incompetent in the eyes of their superiors in London and their peers (other Europeans) in Guangzhou.

    In order to cover their crimes and failures, the megalomaniac British decried Chinese legal system was barbaric and sanguinary relentlessly like Anonymous[338] is doing here to Russia. All the Europeans jumped on the British mudslinging bandwagon for the effort to gain extraterritoriality in China, so they could steal, loot, plunder, etc. Chinese wealth with impunity like Elizabeth I’s Sea Dogs. Soon after the “Lady Hughes” incident the view that entire Chinese legal system was barbaric and sanguinary or there is no law in China become the dominant representation of China ever since.

    The British then engineered Opium Wars for the vengeance of their “Lady Hughes” humiliation, and set to destroy the last nation denying their piracy and other unscrupulous deeds on the moral high ground. If history can be any guidance, the Anglo is not going to stop at smearing Russia; more vicious plot is going to come.

    • Replies: @Anon
  186. @Giuseppe

    I challenge anyone to name a modern war prosecuted by the US government and its allies that did not involve at its root the direct fabrication of blatant lies on enormous levels, both as a casus belli and also to manipulate public opinion in favor of hostilities.

    It’s such an old trick, yet most still fall for fall for it; purported “high” IQs notwithstanding.

    [During the war] words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them.

    Reckless audacity came to be considered the courage of a loyal ally; prudent hesitation, specious cowardice; moderation was held to be a cloak for unmanliness; ability to see all sides of a question, inaptness to act on any.

    - Thucydides, The History of the Peloponnesian War, Chap X, ~400 BC

    Confusion of language of good and evil; this sign I give unto you as the sign of the state. Verily, the will to death, indicates this sign! Verily, it beckons unto the preachers of death!

    -Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra Part I, Chapter 11, “Vom neuen Götzen”/” The New Idol”

  187. FB says:
    @redmudhooch

    ‘…Don’t know how true it is, but this is what Veterans Today says about the captured spooks and weapons lab…’

    Thanks for the links…

    Gordon Duff [Vietnam Marine grunt veteran] and Jim Dean of Veterans Today are well meaning fellows and are on the ‘right team’ so to speak…

    They are often dismissed as Conspiracy Kooks…and they sometimes go a bit over the top…

    I suspect this is because they rely on sources that are perhaps somewhat unreliable…[VT says some of these sources are ex intel guys...so some truth bending might go with the territory...]

    Here is what we do know…last month the Syrian government did say it found a ‘rebel’ chemical weapons workshop and this was reported in Sputnik and RT…

    Reuters ran a one-sentence ‘report’ on this…

    What has been documented much more extensively especially in RT and Sputnik are huge conventional weapons caches seized by the SAA as it liberates various locations from terrorists…often these weapons are visibly stamped with manufacturer data plates from US and Nato countries…

    This is beyond doubt…

    So the logical question is how are these holed up bearded fanatics in Ghouta…who are surrounded on all sides…getting this stuff for the last five years…?

    There is a logistics question here…who and how has been smuggling this into the besieged enclave [including possibly chemical weapons]…?

    That is really cloak and dagger stuff no doubt…and actual verifiable info would be very hard to come by…

    So there could be some truth to this idea that various Western spooks or at least contractors are involved in this game of smuggling in everything from guns to chlorine…[which is readily available]…

    However it is doubtful that these personnel would have been caught by the advancing SAA…

    Even if SAA did capture various Nato operators or agents there…it might not be something that the Russian side would publicize…[I'm just guessing as a layman here...Mr. Giraldi would certainly have a much better grasp on the nuts and bolts of such things...]

    So overall I think this is a case where VT is perhaps a bit too optimistic…

    Still…reading Duff and Dean is always helpful…for instance we have this…

    ‘…We are still waiting for the first verifiable report of a jhadi and or family that has been killed by one of these “attacks”, or a cemetery of the gassed martyrs, or even a headstone for such.

    The amateur script writers forgot about that part…’

    That’s a very good observation…

    With all these ‘gas victims’ churned out by the white helmets how is it that no such ‘martyr’ graves have ever turned up…?

    Or this observation…as to how those chemicals might be used that the headchoppers are cooking up in their workshops…

    ‘…As for what these could be used for, how about throwing into a cellar filled with human shield pro-Damascus family members to generate a nice pile of bodies for our “un-free” Western media…’

    We do know that the Jaish headhcoppers just released a whole bunch of Syrian prisoners that they had been holding in on of their ‘jails’…as part of the evacuation deal…many of them women…these freed prisoners have now been evacuated and taken to a sports stadium in Damascus for reunion with family…

    Photo showing the buses with the freed prisoners below…

    On March 26…even the French AFP ran this story…

    ‘…In the largest city of the East Ghouta district, Douma, civilians and military personnel have been liberated from the “jail of repentance,” where they were kept prisoners for years by Jaish al-Islam terrorists…’

    There were hundreds of women and children from the city of Adra, which was captured by terrorists in December 2013. Adra is one of the largest industrial cities in the suburbs of Damascus.

    “In such places, extremists tortured the abducted people, forcing them to repent of their sins. Thus, they wanted to realize the doctrine of a peaceful revolution. But what sins do children, who were the greatest number in the prison, have to repent?” the source asked.

    According to the source, there were 3,500 inmates in the prison. The terrorists used them as a human shield to put pressure on the Syrian army, which did everything possible to save the lives of the people of the city…’

    So these are the ‘good guys’ for whom Dump is sending the United States to war…?

    If he is as stupid as all that…then I certainly hope that the Russians don’t pull their punches…

    At this point Dump is beyond redemption…the sooner his disillusioned base cuts him loose the better…

    • Replies: @L.K
  188. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    How irritating. Even having tagged you as a Commenter to Ignore doesn’t stop me getting an email heafs up about your latest cranky emission.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  189. @Robjil

    LaGarde is an important name in French History. It is hard to look up though because most hits are Christine LeGarde.

  190. OT, but have the archives of comments by individual posters been purged/flushed?

  191. @Randal

    I have briefly pointed to, argued for, the non negligible possibilities which give the lie to the overconfident assertions of Colonel Blimps and other blow hards. Surprisingly it has been necessary to point out to a sane enough commenter that the (asserted) fact that Putin could have ensured death from a heart attack with no possibility of certain detection doesn’t negate the possibility (whatever low probability one assigns in almost total ignorance) that he didn’t want it to be undetectable. As it is, what lessons do you think potential spies and defectors might draw – even without knowing who was responsible in this case?
    1. We can reach you wherever you are.
    2. Don’t think you can again work in any way against our interests when we have let you go.
    3. We never forget you.
    4. Think of your family.
    5……..

    • Replies: @Randal
  192. Sowhat says:
    @Anonymous

    That’s quite a first comment to run into. (Poor grammar intended).
    Would not it be possible to substitute the U.S. or, let’s say, England for Russia and then list. Their illegal invasions and exploits? They could easily match the social vices and degeneracy..

  193. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong

    No doubt we need a reminder of the pathetic strain of Chinese nationalism that regurgitates old grievances from times long past which should inspire Chinese people first with a determination to find the institutional failures responsible for China’s failures from the moment modernity started to dawn. We need a reminder by hearing the symptoms you embody so we can fairly anticipate how Machiavellian [not an insult] Chinese leaders will behave as they accord some priority to pleasing the masses.

    But you should also take note that sounding unintelligent – even in an abusive rant intended to offend – is at best bad tactics. For example your taking Anonymous’s comment to prove anything – as in your first sentence – is beyond bizarre it is so idiotic. Worthy only of a 10 year olds’ playground. Do spare us on UR please.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  194. Kiza says:
    @Ron Unz

    This is like nothing. Watch what happens if they start the war. Then they will shut us down completely. During the war, there is only one truth – theirs. They cannot afford to have “an alternative media selection” and let us stay informed.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Z-man
    , @jacques sheete
  195. L.K says:
    @FB

    FB:

    Gordon Duff [Vietnam Marine grunt veteran] and Jim Dean of Veterans Today are well meaning fellows and are on the ‘right team’ so to speak…

    No, they most certainly are NOT. The problem is not with them talking about conspiracies, conspiracies do take place all the time…
    Problem is these guys are disinformation, especially Duffy.

    http://www.bollyn.com/14934/

    Gordon Duff: 9-11 Disinfo Toad
    The fact that Gordon Duff is a “disinfo toad” is certainly no secret. He has openly admitted that “about thirty percent of what is on Veterans Today is patently false” and that at least forty percent of what he writes is “purposely partially false”. …

    … Gordon Duff, senior editor of the website Veterans Today, published an article on May 20, 2014, that can only be described as rank disinformation that is meant to obscure the truth about 9-11. To deliberately spread lies about what caused the deaths of thousands of people on 9-11 is an egregious and unforgivable offense. … The Duff article, which was edited by Jim W. Dean, is so full of errors that it cannot be taken seriously, except perhaps as evidence of his role as an agent of disinformation about 9-11.

    Also, both Duff and Dean were 100% supporters of the ZUS/NATO war on Libya, and became furious when several readers protested and confronted them in the comment sections, which led to censorship. Maybe Duffy boy’s defense contracts he claims to have in Africa and the ME had something to do with that.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Disagree: FB
    • Replies: @Kiza
  196. L.K says:
    @Randal

    I do recall svigor trying to defend the Trump 2017 Shayrat missile strike….

    If memory serves, he did so very weakly on the grounds that the Syrians might really have launched a gas attack… but I suspect if it had been president obomber instead of the bozo…

  197. L.K says:
    @Svigor

    Svigor,

    Let me perfectly clear; only a DUMB FUCK could possibly believe the ludicrous nonsense about Putin ordering the poisoning of the Skripals…
    So… are you a DUMB FUCK, or is it merely a case of extreme intellectual dishonesty?

    Btw, I remember when you tried to make a case that the Syrian government had gassed some folks in Syria, when your hero, the orange Bozo, ordered a criminal missile strike on Syria…

    Again, only dumb fucks believe that the Syrian government, then or NOW, gassed civilians in Syria.
    Not only there was never proof, but there was never motive, much less in the past 2 years…
    Only stupid idiots fall for such crude atrocity propaganda… then there are those who push this shit knowing perfectly well that the stories are false… which one are you? Rhetorical question…

    You have denounced the, what is it you call them, Russian flatheads, ultranats? The types can be really quite annoying and dishonest, particularly when dealing with Russia’s imperial PAST, but you are their mirror image, a zamerican flathead/ultranat, eh?
    Which is WORSE, because, see, after the collapse of the Soviet Empire, Russia has basically given up imperialism, but the ZUS, oh, it merely aims at full spectrum dominance!

    I’ll tell ya what; since you would like to share a foxhole with the Zionist shibags, your chance may come soon, check it out!
    With more Palestinians than Jews, Israel is waging a numerical war of attrition
    by Jonathan Cook / The National – 2 April 2018

    Last week, ahead of the Gaza protests, the Israeli army made an unexpected admission. It told parliamentarians that for the first time Jews are outnumbered by Palestinians living under Israeli rule, both inside Israel as citizens and in the territories under occupation. [...]
    In a sign of growing levels of desperation, the Diaspora Affairs Ministry, headed by settler leader Naftali Bennett, announced a plan last week to track down those around the globe with an “affinity” to Israel or Judaism. In the ministry’s view, 90 million people may qualify.

    https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2018-04-03/with-more-palestinians-than-jews-israel-waging-war-of-attrition/

  198. @Randal

    Thank you for that video – I do recall watching it on CSPAN at the time and marveling at his enviable oratorial skills in eviscerating those two ziocons, Coleman and Levin. I wish there were more of him in the world and his performances were visible to more of our somnambulant citizenry. If he were able to run for president of this country, I would support him with all of my resources. But alas, we appear to be suffering from a lack of moral leadership as demonstrated by the gaggle of venal presidents since JFK who have been foisted on us under the banner of democratic choice.

  199. 1. Moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem (yawn)
    2. Threatening to end the Iran nuclear agreement (idiotic, but will hasten the end the US financial stranglehold)
    3. building a wall along the Mexican border. (Go Donald!)

  200. Joe Wong says:
    @Anon

    Deep data mining, medicine, banks, investment pundits and all other scientific fields keep past events as invaluable foundation to do their research, development and projection of the future. Even in court your past is the evidence to convict or disprove of your crime. Without past we have no future; only constantly referring to the past/history we can avoid past mistakes and create better future.

    That is the positive side of using past or history, but for the morally defunct psychopathic repeat crime offenders, past is the thing they want to hide, so they can repeat crimes without moral burden, if not claiming moral high ground.

    I use procedure established in the science and historical fact to prove the British/Anglo is a repeat crime offender, the poisoning episode in Salisbury is the same crime pattern the British/Anglo committed in the “Lady Hughes” episode. But if you only use denial and baseless allegation to white wash the fact that British/Anglo as repeat offender, it seems you are doing a poor job comparing to Colin Powell’s allegation that Iraqi has WMD with fake Photoshop evidence.

    • Replies: @Anon
  201. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Jake and Jilles Dystrka are still fighting the reformation

    • Replies: @anonymous
  202. WhiteWolf says:
    @Corvinus

    Let’s say it was Putin just for arguments sake and it is a possibility. Wouldn’t he already have planned ahead to counter the predictable response by the Brits?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  203. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    Perhaps you have in mind a different Savile.

    The “sir” Savile — a vicious heartless pedophile and friend to many influential Brits — was indeed the Establishment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile
    Here are the facts:
    “Savile was made a life member of the British Gypsy Council in 1975, becoming the first “outsider” to be made a member. …
    Savile became a friend of Margaret Thatcher… He reportedly spent eleven consecutive New Year’s Eves at Chequers with Thatcher and her family… Letters released in December 2012 by the National Archives under the thirty-year rule confirm the close friendship between Savile and Thatcher.
    In 1984, he was accepted as a member of the Athenaeum, a gentlemen’s club in London’s Pall Mall, after being proposed by Cardinal Basil Hume.
    Savile met Prince Charles through mutual charity interests, and Charles reportedly sent him gifts on his 80th birthday and a note reading: “Nobody will ever know what you have done for this country, Jimmy. This is to go some way in thanking you for that.”
    In the 1972 New Year Honours, Savile was appointed Officer of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, entitled to append “OBE” to his signature.
    In the 1990 Queen’s Birthday Honours he was made a Knight Bachelor “for charitable services”, entitled to use the honorific prefix “Sir“. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher had made four attempts to have him knighted before succeeding in her final year in office.
    Savile was honoured with a Papal knighthood by being made a Knight Commander of the Pontifical Equestrian Order of Saint Gregory the Great (KCSG) by Pope John Paul II in 1990.
    – There were more awards and prestigious memberships.

    It was widely known that Savile was a vicious pedophile. Similar to Blair, Savile had been protected by his powerful friends.

    “Immediately after Savile’s death, the BBC’s Newsnight programme began an investigation into reports that he was a sexual abuser. … Newsnight also discovered that Surrey Police had investigated allegations of abuse against Savile. … There was no public mention of the Newsnight investigation into Savile at the time … there had been a cover-up by the BBC. …
    By 19 October 2012, police were pursuing 400 lines of inquiry based on testimony from 200 witnesses via 14 police forces across the UK.”

    “It is now known that Jimmy Savile sexually abused hundreds of children and women at the height of his fame. Investigators believe the late Top of the Pops host preyed on around 500 vulnerable victims as young as two years old at institutions including the BBC’s broadcasting studios, 14 hospitals and 20 children’s hospitals across England.” https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/26/jimmy-savile-sexual-abuse-timeline

    • Replies: @Anon
  204. FB says:

    Sputnik now reporting that the SAA has found the filming site of the white helmets latest stunt…

    ‘…According to the report, the place is located in the small town of Saqba in Eastern Ghouta. The army personnel reportedly also discovered cameras and film production equipment left at the site…’

    So the rats left in such a hurry that they left their gear behind…

    Here is their handiwork again for all to see…I just keep thinking of these poor children in the video that these assholes are abusing in the making of this chemical child pornography…

  205. Kiza says:
    @L.K

    Sorry LK and FB, but the truth is somewhere between the two of you. I do consume VT, almost regularly but, of course, consider it always as potential disinformation from the US military intelligence. Only the things which get corroborated by totally unrelated sites pass muster.

    As I am sure you are both well aware, sometimes you can understand a lot by reading propaganda.

    Actually, it is more interesting to me how Glenn Greenwald finally completely exposed himself as a sellout. For an undisclosed amount of money he sold the remaining Snowden info back to the regime via Omidyar, but he continued writing critical articles for a little while. Now, he has openly come out in support of the regime’s CW lies. Now he burns out the last grains of his credibility and retires a wealthy man. Snowden has destroyed his own life so that this PoS queer member of the tribe can retire into comfort and luxury.

    • Replies: @FB
  206. Proving once again how stoopid Zionists really are, apparently you’re a “white supremacist” for trying to save non-white, brown Arabs lives, and the world too, by the way:

    White Supremacists Defend Assad, Warn Trump: Don’t Let Israel Force You Into War With Syria

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-white-supremacists-call-syrian-chemical-attack-false-flag-operation-1.5988679

    and some more kiddie holohoax brainwashing while WW3 nuclear holocaust is on the horizon:

    ‘Never Again Education Act’ to Teach American Students About Holocaust

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2018/04/10/never-again-education-act-to-teach-american-students-about-holocaust/

    A draft of the “Never Again Education Act” calls Holocaust education “a national imperative to educate students in the United States so that they may explore the lessons that the Holocaust provides for all people, sensitize communities to the circumstances that gave rise to the Holocaust, and help youth be less susceptible to the falsehood of Holocaust denial and distortion and to the destructive messages of hate that arise from Holocaust denial and distortion.”

    NY Rep. Carolyn Maloney, the lead sponsor of the legislation, will promote the bill on Tuesday at the Olga Lengyel Institute for Holocaust Studies and Human Rights in New York City, accompanied by representatives of Hadassah, B’nai B’rith International and the Association of Holocaust Organizations.

    Also sponsoring the bill are Reps. Peter Roskam, R-Ill.; Ted Deutch, D-Fla.; Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla.; Eliot Engel, D-N.Y.; Kay Granger, R-Texas; Nita Lowey, D-N.Y.; and Dan Donovan, R-N.Y. Lowey and Granger both sit on the House of Appropriations Subcommittee.

    Cain’t fix stoopid!

    • Replies: @anon
  207. denk says:

    Regarding fukus shenanigans,
    How could we omit the CIA/MI6 ‘greatest hit‘, the 1965 genocide of 3M Indonesians ‘leftists suspects’ ,
    The mother of all regime changes ???

    The Skriptal caper looks like kindergarten stuff compared to that 1965 genocide.

    fukus orchestrated that bloodbath to remove prez Sukarno cuZ he’s pro Beijing.
    MI6 planted disinfo in HK media about an imminent China sponsored coup , supported by ethnic Chinese fifth columns.
    CIA planted ‘evidence’ of Chinese supplied arms , to be conveniently ‘discovered’ by Indon police
    . [1]
    That devious plot provoked a bloodbath by jihadists death squads against the PKI communists members and ethnic Chinese indons.

    CIA whistle blower, John Mcgehee,

    The Indonesian covert action of 1965, reported by Ralph McGehee, who was in that area division, and had documents on his desk, in his custody about that operation. He said that one of the documents concluded that this was a model operation that should be copied elsewhere in the world. Not only did it eliminate the effective communist party (Indonesian communist party), it also eliminated the entire segment of the population that tended to support the communist party – the ethnic Chinese, Indonesian Chinese. And the CIA’s report put the number of dead at 800,000 killed. And that was one covert action. We’re talking about 1 to 3 million people killed in these things.

    [2]

    [1]
    U.S. officials were particularly interested in linking the September 30th plotters to Beijing. They helped to spread stories about China’s alleged involvement and reported on caches of weapons purportedly “discovered” by the Indonesian army with the hammer and sickle conveniently stamped on them. “

    We have bonanza chance to nail chicoms on disastrous events in Indonesia,” Green wrote the State Department. He urged a “continuation [of] covert propaganda” as one of the “best means of spreading [the] idea of chicom complicity

    https://monthlyreview.org/2015/12/01/the-united-states-and-the-19651966-mass-murders-in-indonesia/

    [2]

    http://www.whale.to/b/stockwell1.html

    ‘Company‘ veterans are so proud of that CIA’S greatest hit,
    they still reminiscent fondly over it around the water cooler, until this very day.
    —————————————————

  208. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I hope they keep on fighting the good fight. I’m learning a lot.

    If either/both could get their hands on Heinrich Graetz’s History of the Jewish People, vol. 5, Graetz traces the influence of Manasseh ben Israel ??? on first, Dutch Europeans then British, especially Cromwell.

    https://archive.org/stream/cu31924028590028/cu31924028590028_djvu.txt

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  209. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong

    So what important lessons do you derive from the failure of the great Han people for 300+ years to cope with the innovations stemming from a tiny handful of people in Europe?

  210. denk says:

    this was a model operation that should be copied elsewhere in the world

    Copy They did ,over and over again, until this very day…..

    Another special relationship made in hell,
    You’ve seen fukusIsrael, fukusIndia,

    Here’s exhibit fukusIndonsia.

    A special relationship which requires Washington to look the other way when the Indon army murdered US citizens…..
    Sounds familiar ???

    ———————————-
    U.S. Secretary Of State Condoleeza Rice’s recent visit to Jakarta was the concluding act in the Bush administration’s five-year drive to whitewash the Indonesian military’s sordid past, green light Indonesia’s occupation of West Papua, and forge another l ink in Washington’s plan to ring China with U.S. military bases and allies.

    To appease Jakarta, Washington exonerated the notorious indon army from the murder of several US citizens and framed a dozen of innocent people instead, just to get the Indons onboard its coveted anti Chinese bandwagon.

    what a lovely country !

    The one incid ent that caused the TNI trouble with the U.S. Congress, however, involved accusations that it had a role in the 2002 murder of two American teachers and an Indonesian colleague near the huge Freeport McMoRan gold and copper mine in West Papua.

    The TNI cl aimed the attack was engineered by the Free Papua Movement (OPM), a group resisting Indonesia’s 1969 unilateral seizure of West Papua.

    But the OPM vigorously denied any involvement in the ambush, and human rights groups and the local police instead implicated Kopassus.

    A police report argued that the OPM “never attacks white people,” and found that the teachers were killed with an M-16, the TNI’s basic weapon. The OPM is generally armed with bows and arrows. Based on the investigation of the incident, then Police Chief of West Papua concluded that the TNI was behind the ambush.

    Attorney General John Ashcroft and the FBI soon rode to Wolfowitz and Rice’s rescue, indicting self-described OPM “commander” Anth onius Wamang for the attack, even though the OPM says Wamang works for Kopassus. This past January, the FBI helped arrest Wamang and 11 other civilians, including a priest, a teenager and several farmers, for the murders.

    The arrests allowed the Bush adm inistration to declare Indonesia a “strategic partner,” and waive congressional restrictions on military aid.

    http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2006-03-31/article/23790?headline=Column-Dispatches-FromThe-Edge-Tales-From-the-South-Pacific-Condoleezza-Does-Indonesia-By-Conn-Hallinan–

  211. Wally says:
    @OMG

    said:
    “These relentlessly repeated claims are an exercise with the dual purpose of providing a subliminal message about the greatest tragedy in human history, repeated ad nauseam. The massive ‘gassing’ of European Jews some 65 years ago. Lest we forget.”
    “These ridiculous, suicidal gas attacks by Assad seem to coincide not only with battleground victories against the head-choppers, but co-incidentally with Israel’s murderous attacks on unarmed Palestinians “throwing stones”.”

    - Indeed, here’s another propganda piece timed to distract from the latest Jew slaughter of Palestinians:
    ‘article: ‘Is There Anything Left To Say About the “Holocaust”?’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11704

    - There was no gassing of Jews, period. There is zero proof, the claims are scientifically impossible.
    Get off your knees.

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

  212. Wally says:
    @Moi

    Seriously? Jew dominated Wikipedia being truthful about Russia?
    Don’t make me laugh.
    see:
    How Israel and Its ‘Partisans’ Work to Censor the Internet

    http://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/

    and:
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    http://www.codoh.com

  213. Wally says:
    @Simon in London

    ” OTOH Israel has shown a lot less anti-Russian hatred than the US Deep State has.”

    ‘Israel and the US Deep state’, a distinction without a difference.

    The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:

    ‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, … but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

    http://www.codoh.com

  214. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Randal

    Of course, one major advantage of the “signature killings” to which you refer is that they actually kill the target, unlike (we are supposed to believe) this super duper 8-10 times as deadly as VX compound the Russians supposedly tried to use in their signature bumbling but at the same time cunningly evil manner.

    Svigor is a bit on the slower side. Russia’s public position is that they don’t have those weapons. Now, whether anyone wants to accept that or not is immaterial. This is what they want the world to believe and that’s the message they’re sending.

    So, Svigor’s proposal that they’d use a nerve agent for “signature killings intended to send a message” is obviously wrong. I believe he also lost the right to call anyone a “dumb fuck”. At least for a while.

  215. FB says:
    @Kiza

    Agree completely on dirtbag Greenwald…never did take him as anything more than a limited hangout schmoe…

    His sugar daddy Moneybags Omidyar is neck deep in the Deep State Mockingbird tradition…

  216. Ron Unz says:
    @anonymous

    If either/both could get their hands on Heinrich Graetz’s History of the Jewish People, vol. 5, Graetz traces the influence of Manasseh ben Israel ??? on first, Dutch Europeans then British, especially Cromwell.

    Actually, the entire massive six volume set is online here, in a much more convenient and readable form, fully searchable as well:

    http://www.unz.com/book/heinrich_graetz__history-of-the-jews/

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Wizard of Oz
  217. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “Red Crescent Says No Evidence of Chemical Attack in Syria’s Douma”

    Yup. Not that it matters to the War Bitch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws-ko2SD-HY&feature=youtu.be UNSC meets to discuss reports of chemical attack in Syria Streamed live

    There’s some resistance … (Building, I hope.)

    California Democrat Zoe Lofgren and Michigan Republican Justin Amash are circulating
    a bipartisan letter to President Trump, insisting that he seek Congressional authorization before striking the government of Syria.

    Defend our Constitution and oppose endless war.
    Urge your Representative to sign the Lofgren-Amash letter against unconstitutional war.

    Phone calls are best: US Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121, ask for your Rep. by name.
    You can leave a message after hours. (Name, zipcode, request.)
    The White House: (202) 456-1111

    There is also a petition for you to sign:

    https://www.change.org/p/back-repzoelofgren-justinamash-potus-must-get-authorization-before-striking-Syria

    Sign @[email protected]: @POTUS must get authorization before striking Syria

    H/T to Robert Naiman of “Just Foreign Policy” for this Alert.

    • Agree: Kiza
  218. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @redmudhooch

    Bob’s yer uncle:

    Newsweak calls Tucker Carlson a White Nationist, dabbler in conspiracy theories

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/syria-gas-attack-conspiracy-theories-201328447.html

    Syria Gas Attack Conspiracy Theories Fueled by Tucker Carlson and Far-Right Fringe

    Of the 30 or so comments I read, a uuuge majority were scornful of the article, its author, the magazine, and the mindset.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  219. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Thank you.
    The Gutenberg version is offline; you’ve cornered the market.

    Thank you for everything that you do, Ron Unz. You are one in 300 million.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  220. anonymous[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @Moi

    proper spelling is Muhammad

    the Koran

    Please don’t get me wrong, I am simply noting the minor irony of correcting one spelling, while getting another one wrong.

    The correct spelling for “Koran” is Qur’an, or more simply Quran.

    Peace :)

    • Replies: @Moi
  221. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Of the 30 or so comments I read, a uuuge majority were scornful of the article, its author, the magazine, and the mindset.

    Great news. People have become resistant to these cheap shaming tactics. “Conspiracy”? “Fringe”? Lol!

  222. anonymous[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Bowman

    Moslems who will have cause to regret the war

    If such dire predictions come to pass, please remember that our regret will anyway be a short lived, like in, we won’t be around to regret any more. In a another life, in a blessed abode, we true monotheists are promised not to even comprehend what “regret” means.

    But, the godless heathen polytheist human worshippers who will most definitely initiate the “war to end all wars” will have an eternity of regret, as they get their multi-coloured hides roasted.

  223. chris says:
    @Rurik

    I recently listened to an interview with Ron Paul on the Tom Woods show in which Ron said that when he was in congress he had stopped going to the security briefings given for congressmen because he thought they were just propaganda!

    I found it incredible that the back-channel information they’re all getting constantly is questionable enough to be obvious to an honest man.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  224. anonymous[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Bowman

    Better still that none of the Moslem-loving filth had ever been born.

    Just like all you “Moslem”-hating filth will wish that you were never born, as you get your heathen hides roasted in Hell… for all eternity.

    Do you filth even comprehend the implication of, Eternity. It means an Infinite period. One shudders to think of such a fate, but better the likes of you than me. Have fun ;)

    And, Blair and “Moslem-loving”?! Hahahaha!!

  225. edNels says:
    @Rurik

    On the subject of Moslem affections having a lot to do, or being the driver of mass migrations, I agree that it seems like kind of over indulgently or something out of balance with other concerns like the well being of the countries etc.

    Just to update with a couple snippets:

    The reason…]
    …isn’t because the people doing it (the Blairs and Bushes) love Muslims. Hardly. Rather the motivations for the massive migrations …]
    …are motivated by a pure, incomprehensibly Satanic hatred for the people of the West.]
    Rather it’s out of raw hatred. A kind of all-consuming hatred that I know (thankfully) I’ll never comprehend.

    But doesn’t it occur that it might be less pathological a plan to simply disable the bulk of human population by systematic death by a thousand cuts, starting with dumbing down and disabling the middle level ”journeyman” everyday kind of bloke, and the culture that made modern mass society possible.

    Systemic depopulation, CULLING of the HUMANS!

    How would you go about it better than by a smooth moving ever advancing cinch on freedoms. pulling out the supports, pins, rugs beneath, RAMP it all DOWN, Bring it all Down!

    Novchok to the hindmost!

    Doesn’t have to be crazy either, it might be a clever plan to restore a ratio of Man to Nature more sustainable in future times of less abundant resources… or AIR SPACE!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  226. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    I certainly wasn’t aware that the connections the social climbing creep had made were so extensive but I might still quibble about his being part of the Establishment or observe that the word or concept doesn’t remain a very useful tool for understanding and anslysis of politics, power and influence if you are going to count him as any more than a fringedwelling hanger on of the Establishment. Being someone who, as entertaining celebrity or old school friend of a Prime Minister, can rely on a secretary passing on your message or letter does’nt make you a person of influence such as “Establishment” connotes. (It occurs to me to Google “what is the difference between the concept of a UK Establishment and the US Deep State”. Want to have a go at making the connection?).

    Mind you it is an interesting reflection on London clubs and their status that it was the Athenaeum that he joined. Membership is confined to those, now including women, who are “distinguished in the Arts, Sciences or Letters”. (When I asked a friend who was a member, though only a quite senior partner in a firm of City solicitors, about the gaitered bishops I had observed he said “Oh Letters I suppose!”). There would be and have been senior civil servants who were members but I doubt that Jimmy Savile had much time in their company.

    Well done using a search engine but I’m afraid your “sir Savile’ usage – repeated – disqualifies you from posing as having any reliable knowledge of the UK. Within the UK you might find a Lancashire labourer or Polish plumber who wouldn’t say “Sir James – or Sir Jimmy Savile” except that most would probably call him just “Jimmy Savile” or “that slimy bastard Savile”.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @NoseytheDuke
  227. Moi says:
    @anonymous

    No need to apologize. I was just providing some clarification/additional information. Yes, I do spell Qur’an as you have correctly spelled it—I only spelled it the way I did for some of our less sensitive friends here.

    But your taking time to reply is much appreciated. Take care.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  228. @Eagle Eye

    I do not think it is impossible, that the MI6 & CIA are capable of hideous crimes, even of homicide. But up till now I interpret the declaration of the Salisbury hospital and of the head of Porton Down as unexpected and contrary to the MI6 & CIA policies. Also I notice a lack of cleverness all over the handling of this Skripal case by both the UK government and the secret services. This is going to backfire. Happily the new Cold War that these secret services wish to renew between East and West is not so easy to realize.

  229. Ace says:
    @Moi

    Another person said the president must make the federal military presence permanent. One knows the Potemkin purpose of the whole exercise from the use of the National Guard in small numbers on a temporary basis with unclear mission. What is still bedrock policy is that any border official will serve a “welcome and process” function only. The word “repel” is forbidden in all discussion.

    In short, betrayal.

  230. Ace says:
    @jilles dykstra

    By climate change you do mean global warming, don’t you? If not, you do agree that global cooling would also be climate change, yes?

  231. @Ron Unz

    As my knowledge of Jewish history extends little beyond Paul Johnson’s “History of the Jews” (recommended to me by a scholarly Rabbi) I am grateful for easy access to Heinrich Graetz’s magnum opus. However, as I read the first two volumes and discovered that they were completed in 1874 I wanted to ask you or “anonymous [107]” what modern archaeology says about the Torah’s myths and legends that Graetz seems happy to rely on. Having read Graetz’s Wikipedia entry where he is accused of sloppy scholarship I am even more keen to get a modern scholarly update on the pre Babylonian exile history. Any chance you can point me efficiently in the right direction to find reviews, learned articles or indeed books which might serve my purpose? There is of course nothing in Graetz about the theory that the Hebrews got their monotheism from Akhnaten and his acolytes, let alone any idea that Moses was mythical.

  232. @anonymous

    See my #40 reply to Ron – also to you.

  233. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    One does not need to do an extensive Google search to find that Savile was OBE, Sir and that he was also a Papal Knight.
    My point was the dissolution of the concept of honor among the Establishment.
    Blair, Williamson, Johnson, May, Cameron, Straw et al are the Establishment — and the criminal liars.
    Is Lord Arbuthnot the Establishment? — Of course, he is. James is an important lobbyist for Israel and weapon manufacturers. His wife has become a celebrity by upholding an arrest warrant for Julian Assange. Want to compare the treatment of Blair with the treatment of Assange? — The first is the UK Establishment, the second is an honest principled man.
    There was also Dr. Kelly.

  234. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Was that you posting as “Anon” then, Wizard? If so I’m rather disappointed as I’d expect better from you, frankly.

    I have briefly pointed to, argued for, the non negligible possibilities which give the lie to the overconfident assertions of Colonel Blimps and other blow hards. Surprisingly it has been necessary to point out to a sane enough commenter that the (asserted) fact that Putin could have ensured death from a heart attack with no possibility of certain detection doesn’t negate the possibility (whatever low probability one assigns in almost total ignorance) that he didn’t want it to be undetectable.

    One can always make this kind of argument that a particular possibility cannot be ignored, however silly on its face, because you can’t prove it is absolutely zero. It’s rather a waste of time, imo.

    Why do you feel a need to defend the establishment narrative on this supposed incident? Frankly, having looked into it pretty closely, I maintain the position that there are no credible arguments in support of it, and only ignorance can excuse defending it.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Eagle Eye
  235. Incitatus says:

    Giraldi:

    Third paragraph:

    “…Former Prime Minister Tony Blair was the first master at dissimulation in 2002 when his intelligence chief Sir Richard Dearlove told him that the Bush White House had decided on war and “the intelligence and facts were being around the policy” regarding Iraq…”

    Should be:

    “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.”

    • Replies: @geokat62
  236. @Wizard of Oz

    Oops! I had only been reading Chapters 1 and 2, not Volumes 1 and 2…..

  237. Actually the best argument against the official narrative in the Skripal case is it is completely unbelievable. The story is full of holes, inconsistencies and contradictions. The is a complete lack of evidence for the most basic facts: such as when? where? what? who? how? The what question is supposedly answered by the assertion that it is novichok, but when the government went to the Court of Protection to gain permission to take blood samples from the Skripals, the sworn testimony from the Porton Down scientist merely claimed that the poison was a “nerve agent or related compound” – that is a very long way from even saying it was a nerve agent and clearly implies that the government does not know what poisoned the Skripals and the mysterious “Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey”. The government is simply relying on intuition, rather than evidence and logic.

    http://viewsandstories.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/the-skripal-syllogism.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  238. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Should be:

    “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.”

    Good catch, Incy. Did you catch this?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Miro23
  239. @Sparkon

    “You might think it would be easier if not more foolproof for the warmongers to stage a fake chemical attack in Syria by 2018 than it was staging the false flag attack on the WTC in 2001,”

    Maybe they haven’t grabbed for the gold ring, a faked chemical attack in Israel, because those fakes are much more readily exposed as fakes than they were in ’01. Maybe, though, they are hoping to disable internet outlets so that a faked attack on Israel can be staged , starting WWIII in a day or so unchallenged by any debunkers.

  240. @Wizard of Oz

    Graetz wrote what he wrote, he wrote from his own perspective, influenced by innovative Jewish philosophers in a particular era, and when he wrote, he broke ground in that it was said to be the first, modern, vernacular — though he was Polish, he wrote in German, the language of scholars of the day — history of Jews.

    Graetz has, indeed, been criticized from several perspectives: he abhorred Jewish mysticism and gave that topic short shrift. On the other hand, his framework for Jewish being-in-the-world focused on Jewish victimhood.
    Some Jewish scholars have criticized that focus as distorting the actual experience of Jewry. For example, in David Biale’s Cultures of the Jews, the author explains that in the relatively rare and sporadic events in which Jewish communities were, indeed, victimized, those events were memorialized in the liturgy of the time and place. That liturgy became a permanent element in Jewish books of worship; then, historians who were lazy or not discerning or had an agenda relied on those liturgies to make unwarranted historical generalizations.

    But Graetz’s history was wildly popular among Jews from the era of the birth of modern zionism until relatively recently. Rabbi Stephen Wise, who was enormously important in involving USA in wars in Europe, wrote to his wife that he was reading Graetz, as was she and their children. Rabbi Henry Abramson observed that for over 70 years the most popular Bar Mitvah gift was a set of Graetz’s history. That being the case, it’s somewhat surprising that so few sets of that history are offered for sale by used book outlets; the public library in my region used to have three or four sets in circulation, but now only one set is held for reference only.

    An understanding of Graetz’s perspective and prevalence is critically important, as it set the foundation for a mindset that prevails among a large set of the Jewish community to this day.

    Regarding Babylonian myths etc.: I’ve finally disciplined my mind to understand that an author must be evaluated on what he wrote, and not what he did not write that I wish he would have written. There are dozens of books on the mythologies of cultures all over the world. My own nascent interest in mythologies was expanded on a visit to Iran and a desert caravansarie, where I learned that millennia ago, traders and travelers from all over the world gathered in the fortress-like shelter, around a well-head. After securing their animals and their goods, they gathered under the stars and shared the folk tales of their diverse cultures. “That is where the bible was written,” a docent told us. (It’s worth noting that Muhammad was a merchant-trader.)

  241. @JerseyJeffersonian

    That does sound possible, but to me, the most likely explanation is that nobody was poisoned, the Skripals were simply whisked away out of public view while the ridiculous scenario was pushed by the media.

    It would seem likely to me that Skripal would go along with his hosts to present a fake event, especially since he could have been threatened with deportation. The entire story is so ludicrous that it’s easy for me to lean toward the possibility that the whole thing is a poorly produced fake.

  242. @SolontoCroesus

    “chemical weapons use would be consistent with past behaviour by the Syrian government. ”

    More accurately, accusations of chemical weapons use is consistent with past lies by those wanting a wider war with Syria. Heller is as full of shit as a septic tank.

  243. @Randal

    I have on occasion posted as an anonymous for reasons usually pretty close to those suggested by Ron Unz for making it possible, but not on this thread.

    I’m not defending any version but I don’t like bad or overstated arguments and find it difficult to restrain my instinct to respond. I don’t see why you are entitled to be regarded as having a superior sense of what is probable. I feel sure that plenty of ex KGB defectors – like Yuri Bezmenov for a good example – would say the probability of Putin being involved were very high. (Bezmenov is not an ideal example actually because he faded out from about 1984 after he proved himself no longer in touch with USSR internal reality annd committed the typical UR sin of confident oversimplifying overstatement).

    • Troll: L.K
  244. @Randal

    Svigor still hasn’t learned to use the reply key. I once thought that maybe he didn’t use the key so that those he addressed in his shitposts wouldn’t see that he had replied to them, but decided that is giving him credit for a little basic intelligence.

    There’s no hope for such a ninny.

  245. Rurik says:
    @Kiza

    Watch what happens if they start the war. Then they will shut us down completely. During the war, there is only one truth – theirs. They cannot afford to have “an alternative media selection” and let us stay informed.

    Hi Kiza,

    in a smaller context, this reminds me of something I witnessed recently, with hurricane Irma.

    Hurricane Irma was a significant sized hurricane in 2017, that potentially might have caused significant damage to some parts of Florida, if it had remained a category five and hit Florida directly, as the media obviously hoped it would.

    And then the hype went full-blown *on*, in a way I’d never seen before, (even tho they typically hype these storms to maximum effect). But with Irma it was so over the top as to be beyond ludicrous, with calls of a “Hell Storm!”, and demands to evacuate your families if you love your children!, blah, blah..

    They’d computer enhanced the satellite imagery and plastered in on every TV and Internet computer screen from Florida to all the way up the coast in the North East US and presumably beyond.

    OK, so far, par for the course, even if a lot more over the top.

    But then this is where it gets really interesting. Because I knew people living in Florida at the time. (I wasn’t there, I was in the Midwest). But as Irma approached, there was a natural desire to stay informed, but something happened, and this is what I’m getting at.

    At the point when Irma was approaching the coast of S. Florida, a media blackout occurred for every single honest image of radar or satellite feed or anything else that might give people an honest assessment of what exactly this hurricane was doing.

    It was total, across the board.

    You could not find information from NOAA, National Hurricane Center, National Weather Service or anywhere else, at the very time you needed it most.

    They all blacked out all actual coverage of the storm, and forced anyone who wanted to know anything about it, to go to the commercial channels like The Weather Channel or CNN or other sources of pure, over-the-top – hype.

    I know some really computer savvy youngsters, who’re in the business, and I asked them to use all their skills, to find an honest radar or satellite imagery of the storm, as it was approaching Florida, and every one of them came back to me and said it had been scrubbed from every source on the Internet. It simply was not there. Right when millions of people wanted it the most.

    So that was when I learned that even now, the entire Internet (and obviously cable and network TV) is under total control.

    And they didn’t even wait for something like a war to clamp down and censor the Internet, they showed their hand, (at least to me) for something as mundane as causing a deliberate panic.

    They usually cause a deliberate panic, and then say ‘it’s better to be safe than sorry’, blah, blah.

    But in this case they wanted a massive evacuation. They said things like ‘do you love your family? Are you willing to see your children die because you were too lazy to leave?

    ‘Do you know what a nine foot wall of water will do to your home?!’

    Anyways, they wanted to manufacture this terror and panic and they did so, but in this case they used their total domination of the access to information, and certainly showed me how full-spectrum it actually is.

    When we really need to know what’s happening, is when will all be more in the dark, (and subject to only their lies) than even before the Internet was available, and all we had were the newspapers or radio.

    They say China’s Internet is controlled but I saw total control when it came to Irma.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @chris
  246. @Moi

    It seems funny that an argument can be had over the spelling of words translated from a language that uses different characters from the translation. Any phonetic spelling could be correct.

  247. Rurik says:
    @chris

    Ron said that when he was in congress he had stopped going to the security briefings given for congressmen because he thought they were just propaganda!

    I wonder who is really informed. Somehow I don’t see them giving Obama (or even Trump) actual intelligence.

    I suspect that they tell Trump ‘Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people, and now we need you to read (or Tweet) a statement’.

    something like that. Hillary was probably given actual info, because they knew she was one of them. But Obama didn’t much care for Bibi, and Trump is not part of the club. So I doubt very much they trust them enough to say..

    ‘the CIA/Mossad has just used some of their boys to perpetrate a chemical attack in Syria, that we’re now going to use as a pretext to bomb Syria. We must not allow Assad to continue with his claims on the Golan Heights, but we also must pretend the Golan is irrelevant, and this is all about creating stability in Syria, and saving the children’. Got it?

    Trump: yea, sure. I got it.

    Trump may eventually evolve into this kind of tool, but for now I suspect they consider him too much of a loose cannon, and so they only give him specific things to say and do.

    The people who actually do get solid info? John Bolton, and the rest of the ideologically pure neocons. The ones who’re kosher enough to keep the secrets like 9/11 to the grave.

    • Replies: @chris
  248. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    That’s very interesting and very weird. Do you know any meteorologists or related; is that what you mean by “the business”?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  249. Svigor says:

    Of course, one major advantage of the “signature killings” to which you refer is that they actually kill the target, unlike (we are supposed to believe) this super duper 8-10 times as deadly as VX compound the Russians supposedly tried to use in their signature bumbling but at the same time cunningly evil manner.

    Interesting to see you seemingly backing the (literally stupid) government line on this.

    That is incorrect. I am backing no one’s “line,” and I don’t really give a shit who did it. E.g., you make a good point – that if Putin wanted him dead, he’d probably be dead, so I’m not going to take a crap on it.

    What I am backing is good logic that doesn’t insult my intelligence. Flatheads say amazingly stupid shit, on a routine basis.

    • Replies: @Randal
  250. @geokat62

    Short version:

    Tucker Carlson: “What is the American national security interest that would be served by regime change in Syria?

    Senator Roger Wickers, R- Mississippi “Well, If you care about Israel . . .”

    Rep. Ro Khanna, D-California, whose district includes Silicon Valley, said on C Span’s Washington Journal this morning (Apr 11 18) that he has signed onto a letter being circulated by Kentucky Representative Thomas Massie and Kentucky Senator Rand Paul.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?443835-5/washington-journal-representative-ro-khanna-d-ca-discusses-facebook-data-privacy

    video/phoner w/ Brian Thomas: https://55krc.iheart.com/featured/brian-thomas/content/2017-08-09-55krc-welcomes-congressman-thomas-massie-back-to-the-show/

    Massie: “We have not been provided any evidence . . . We still don’t have hard evidence from 2013 or 2017 either.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/04/05/this-gop-congressman-still-doesnt-believe-that-assad-is-behind-the-syrian-attack/?utm_term=.d27e2cb0537f

    Sen. Marco Rubio called on Wednesday any denial of Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad’s responsibility for a chemical attack in his own country “grotesque” and “fake news at the highest.”

    But one Republican House colleague does not agree. Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie, in an interview on Wednesday morning, said he could not be certain that Assad was responsible for the attack that killed scores of civilians — including children. The United States has blamed Assad’s government.

    “Frankly, I don’t think Assad would have done that – it does not serve his interests, it would serve to draw us into that civil war even further,” Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) said on CNN. “It’s hard for me to understand why he would do that if he did.”

    Interviewed on Capitol Hill following that statement, [while Rubio sucked up] Massie didn’t back down.

    “Do you have the facts?” he challenged a reporter.

    “Let me ask you this: Who benefits? Who benefits, if chemical weapons were used and America weighs in on the side of the rebels, or wades into a war against Assad?” Massie answered. “How does Assad benefit from that?”

  251. Svigor says:

    Svigor still hasn’t learned to use the reply key. I once thought that maybe he didn’t use the key so that those he addressed in his shitposts wouldn’t see that he had replied to them, but decided that is giving him credit for a little basic intelligence.

    There’s no hope for such a ninny.

    Svigor has explained to you nitwits many times that he keeps Javascript turned off (I know, I know; using a browser in ways not recommended by Big Brother does not compute), and last he heard, the reply button relies on Javascript.

  252. Svigor says:

    Svigor is a bit on the slower side. Russia’s public position is that they don’t have those weapons. Now, whether anyone wants to accept that or not is immaterial. This is what they want the world to believe and that’s the message they’re sending.

    Lol, typical flathead genius. Flathead logic: Israel can’t “send a message” with a nuke, because they won’t confirm having nukes. Brilliant!

    Let me perfectly clear; only a DUMB FUCK could possibly believe the ludicrous nonsense about Putin ordering the poisoning of the Skripals…
    So… are you a DUMB FUCK, or is it merely a case of extreme intellectual dishonesty?

    I explained my position to Randal, so here I need only point out the stupid assumptions that flatheads make; I must be on either Team Flathead, or Team Ziotard. I can’t just object to a stupid argument because I hate stupid arguments.

  253. mr meener says:

    the only promises trump will keep are the ones to the jews. moving the embassy destroying Syria and then trying it with Iran while the Israelis kill 45 unarmed Pals and wound 1500

  254. MacNucc11 says:
    @Corvinus

    If it was Putin they would both be dead and not found passed out on a park bench. That whole story smells too. Are they really patrolling park benches that well in the UK? So everyone passed out on a park bench is brought in for medical treatment? What really makes me sick is that the British felt the need to kill their poor animals for the sake of perpetuating this bs story.
    Your assessment of Putin killing his enemies actually argues against what you assert.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  255. Rurik says:
    @edNels

    On the subject of Moslem affections having a lot to do, or being the driver of mass migrations, I agree that it seems like kind of over indulgently or something out of balance with other concerns like the well being of the countries etc.

    ‘Muslim affection’ has nothing to do with it. Barbara Spectre and her ilk surely hate Muslims almost as much as they hate Westerners, only not as much.

    The reason they went apoplectic over Trump’s talk of restricting Muslim immigration is because that bodes ill for their ultimate intention to flood all Western nations with non-Westerners. Not because they love Muslims. That’s utter nonsense, as we see them destroying Muslim nations with wild abandon and Old Testament wrath.

    Perhaps (((General Clark))) said it best when he explained why they bombed Serbia on behalf of Muslim terrorists and drug / human traffickers; the KLA.

    There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states. – Wesley Clark, Retired General who commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War

    could have taken the words right out of Barbara Spectre’s mouth

    so they use Muslims when Muslims are available, like in Sweden and Germany. Or they use Mexicans when Mexicans (and Caribbeans and El Salvadorians, Hondurans, etc…) are what’s available.

    Australia will see more and more Asians and Indians and Africans and will be introduced to getting it ‘Leb style’, even more often.

    what ever and whom ever is available to achieve the goal. And it’s only for Western nations. (except in cases like Syria, where they’ve used an ‘immigration policy’ that is even more strident than in the West)

    You won’t see them telling Japan to open its gates to hoards of non-Japanese. Likewise, Mexico will not be welcoming in millions of Hondurans or Guatemalans, unless they’re on their way to whitey land.

    it might be a clever plan to restore a ratio of Man to Nature more sustainable in future times of less abundant resources

    this is the saddest, most tragic part of all

    because we humans are mindlessly over-populating the planet into a dead rock, where all other species are being driven out of their ancient habitats, to make room for billions more bipedal consumers / cannon fodder.

    White nations, if left to their own devises, would be reducing their sheer numbers, out of cultural and other realties. So in order to continue the madness of exponentially exploding the numbers of consumers, they’re using non-Westerners, with birth rates more attuned to the stone age, than modern societies, and this is all calculated to turn the planet into a human farm, where all wildlife and nature are all driven out to make room for the most lucrative animals of all.

    It’s a terrible, terrible sin.

    At one time the Sierra Club understood this, and opposed massive immigration of super-prolific Third Worlders, but then right away a (((fiend))) stepped in with a hundred million dollar bribe, and the whores at the Sierra Club capitulated for their bag of thirty shekels.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @edNels
  256. MacNucc11 says:
    @Kiza

    This pretty much says it all as to what the real financial situation is.

  257. MacNucc11 says:
    @Santoculto

    I don’t know. Checked that link. Those dogs look pretty well fed for strays. My guess, euthanized older pets who were dying of old age. Things must be better in Russia than I thought if animals that are strays are that well fed. These things look huge.

  258. MacNucc11 says:
    @Zogby

    You mean the same Putin who turned the other cheek to the Turks downing a Russian fighter, and subsequently improved relations with Turkey? That crazy impulsive nut job. hahaha, he just can’t help himself.

  259. Sparkon says:

    I can scarcely believe what I read at Newsweek this morning:

    Trump’s Tweet

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump

    Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!
    10:57 AM – Apr 11, 2018

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-warns-russia-nice-new-smart-missiles-are-coming-gas-killing-animal-assad-880510

    With this conceited blowhard fool as President, we are heading for a world of hurt.

    It seems we got Hillary with pants.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  260. Philip Owen says: • Website
    @JR

    I still don’t get why so little is made of Skripal’s connection to Steele.

  261. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    That’s very interesting and very weird. Do you know any meteorologists or related; is that what you mean by “the business”?

    no, not meteorologists, but Information Technology, where they make their living using the Internet and computer science / information.

    the PTB wanted to evacuate the people of Florida, for whatever reason they had.

    And they created a massive panic with hysterical reporting and outright lies. They literally caused terror, with this stupid minor hurricane. And for most of it, you could tell it was all lies just by checking the actual satellite and radar imagery, that showed a minor hurricane that might hit part of Florida and cause some (probably minor) damage, which is what it did.

    but they caused an hysteria, and then when it came to the moment when it was going to turn north, or keep going west…

    then boom. All honest satellite and radar feed dropped completely off the Internet. It was surreal, and telling.

    And the hype on places like the Weather Channel went full-blown psycho.

    some reported that Hurricane ‘Irma holds about twice the destructive energy of all bombs used in Second World War’.

    I have property on the West coast of Florida, at the center of the eye where Hurricane Irma landed. An awning was slightly bent and a few dead tree branches were scattered around.

    But all the hype aside, it was the information black-out that amazed me the most. The Internet is controlled, absolutely. The only reason we’re still able to have these conversations is because for now, they’re letting us. Just as Kiza said. And when the time comes for them to decide it’s over, then it will be over.

    • Replies: @Anon
  262. MacNucc11 says:
    @anonymous

    I am hoping that the Chinese abstaining is like checking in poker. In other words only ante up when you have to. Agreed about Bolivia. Viva Bolivia!!

  263. Rurik says:
    @Sparkon

    It seems we got Hillary with pants.

    a fiend will not be contained

    especially when it suffers no loss from wars, but only gains

    what it looks like to me, with this saber rattling, is two cats pawing at each other, trying to find the other’s level of skill, and weaknesses.

    The Fiend is not going to just let Putin walk in and save the day, (and Syria with it)

    It’s been ascendant for so long, that the idea of its hegemony having reached it’s apex of domination over the people of the planet, is anathema to its DNA.

    It will push, and keep pushing, until it finds a solid resistance (or push back). Right now Putin’s Russia is that resistance, and so it’s going to keep pushing. And pawing, because a few thousand (or a few scores of millions) of dead Russians and Syrians and Americans are all welcome developments. So there’s no down side, unless Syria (Russia) decides to scorch Tel Aviv. And announces that Russia and China (and India and Pakistan and many other nations) have all been simultaneously and secretly working on a reverse Samson Option, in case the Fiend drives the planet to the brink.

  264. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Oh, OK, I’m arguably in IT myself, so I feel a little more free to comment.

    The Internet is controlled, absolutely. The only reason we’re still able to have these conversations is because for now, they’re letting us. Just as Kiza said.

    Well, I don’t know. If the internet ever were well and truly quashed it would be possible to replace it with an improvised system, but this seems unlikely– more likely are the sorts of measures that could be evaded some of the time, the way the Chinese do.

    All honest satellite and radar feed dropped completely off the Internet. It was surreal, and telling.

    What’s interesting here is that there’s a bit of a source bottleneck here, in that the government controls or can access most of the real sources of information concerned, at least that I can think of. Though foreign observation satellites, not so much. This actually seems really quite interesting, I’d like to look into it further when I have time. I presume all the imagery and tracking information is back up by now?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  265. chris says:
    @Rurik

    Yeah, and you know just how they probably do these security clearances too: they get these spooky looking dudes to come in, then they go through all these procedures about keeping it all hush-hush, have everyone sign all sorts of crap to make it all official and to give everyone the feeling that they’re in on the inside scoop, and then they snow them with the kind of crap a 2-year old could see through.

    They needn’t bother, the grooming and filtering system for selecting these politicians run by AIPAC is so thorough that you either get a complete ideologue like Schumer, or a complete moron/lackey a la Haley, McCain, Graham, and all down the rest of these scumbags.

    BTW, a pathological megalomaniac like like Bolton only sees what he wants to see, they don’t have to bother showing him anything else cause he’ll flip out; this also gives him an out if something goes wrong, because he’ll become the biggest coward and blame it all on everyone who gave him the info.

    • Agree: Rurik
  266. Z-man says:
    @Ron Unz

    God speed and thanks.

  267. Z-man says:
    @jacques sheete

    I hear he has a dozen body guards when he goes to the men’s room. Couldn’t just one of them turn to the bright side of the force and ‘off’ him. Nice thought. (Smile)

  268. Given the trajectory of events in the world as of today, it appears a scripted disinformation campaign. If any Russians were involved (other than the victims), the most likely suspects might well be those currently operating out of Tel Aviv.

  269. Z-man says:

    BTW, Tucker Carlson is doing yeoman’s work on the air surrounded by vipers even in his own network. A voice in the wilderness against the Satanic Globalist/Neocon/Zionist/Christ hating Cabal.

  270. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @steve Hayes

    Actually the best argument against the official narrative in the Skripal case is it is completely unbelievable.

    Exactly. Even the fate of the Skripal’s pets is completely nonsensical. Are we really supposed to believe that the investigators completely ignored the pets during their work in the house – until they died of dehydration or had to be put down after weeks of torture? And why was the evidence destroyed?

    Skripal’s Pets Were Sacrificed To Cover The Investigation’s Mistakes

  271. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    I presume all the imagery and tracking information is back up by now?

    It returned on line as soon as Irma was well on her way past central Florida. Once people realized they aren’t ‘all going to die!’

    I’d say it returned a few hours after it was blacked out.

    You’d go to the NOAA website for a look at the satellite image and tracking, and it simply wasn’t there anymore. As I recall, it was replaced with the kind of computer enhanced red death storm from hell, that they’d been hyping for days.

    just try to find one video of an honest, non-enhanced satellite or radar image as the storm is hours away from the coast of Florida.

    these are the kinds of images you got

    [MORE]

    once it moved up into Georgia, we were allowed to see actual radar of what it actually looked like

    here’s an image of it as it was on Florida’s coast, but this is from the UK,

    and such images or information was blocked to the citizens of the ZUSA by our PTB at the time. (when we needed it most!)

    if the moderators want to put this all under a ‘more’ link, I understand.

    I suppose these details are a little off topic.

  272. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Another great post, Rurik. Thank you.

  273. Rurik wrote:. “… in case the Fiend drives the planet to the brink.”

    Hi Rurik,

    Will take back off from your words, above.

    Surely you’re aware of the New Testament, “Death comes like a thief in the night.”

    Please consider the following thought.

    At present, a significant amount of aware-American citizens are bracing for a deadly ZUS attack upon perhaps both Iran & Syria.

    For some commenters here @ U.R., how Russia responds to PreZident Trump’s recent guaranteed attack is going to be critical for our knowing exactly where Vladimir Putin stands.

    Crunch time: “Is Putin either for American-Israeli Empire ‘fiendish’ goals or is he (<) against them?"

    At present, the Corporate Media buzzes with Speaker Ryan resignation, St. Zuckerberg, NYSE tremors, an upcoming new & improved NAFTA, and Trump's lawyer cooperation with investigators on the payoff to Stormy D.

    Meanwhile, as citizen attention is cunningly distracted, people like you & I are concerned that WW III can arrive like a nuclear warhead toting "thief in the night."

    A perfect Zionist Cognitive Dissonance Storm clobbering befuddled American minds?

    Realize, Jacques, that the Neoconservative plan is for me to think that PreZident Trump (under Federal criminal investigation) can not be a "wuss" and back down from his promise to take lethal military action against "animal" Assad.

    So when and how violently does the ZUS-Pentagon strike, like a "thief in the night?" And how will Russia respond?

    P.S.:
    Wiser Empire "heads" prior to WW I had faith in prevailing common humanity and common sense. Today no such redemptive quality exists in thieving western capitals, D.C., London, and Paris.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Rurik
  274. @ChuckOrloski

    meanwhile, Israel celebrates Holocaust day.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Holocaust-Remembrance-Day-its-not-enough-to-remember-549498

    I wonder if they have cookies shaped like Xykon-B pellets or if they just eat deer turds.

    • LOL: L.K
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Anon
  275. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “animal” Assad.

    a low point even from Trump to say that

    That a sitting ZUS pres. would refer to a head of state in such a way, is beneath contempt.

    perhaps the worst thing you can say about Assad is that he allowed himself to be photographed in the same room as war criminal Tony Blair.

    and no one on this planet with a functioning brain believes for one second that Assad (or Putin for that matter) committed this (obvious false flag) act of insanity. He’s not insane, there’s no reason for thinking he is.

    But the zio-Fiend, especially when it comes to John Bolton and the Golan Heights, well then that’s another story altogether.

    my nation has been reduced to a mindless, drooling ogre and murderer, in the service of pathological psychopaths hell bent on Satanic domination of the planet. And with the eager collaboration of so-called “Christians” like Mike Pence, who’d sacrifice every Christian soul in Syria to the forces of evil, and crucifixion by ISIS, because doing so would be perceived as ‘good for the Jews’.

    I don’t know who’s more execrable, Bibi, Trump or Pence.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @edNels
  276. @SolontoCroesus

    From S2C’s posting of an incredible Jerusalem Post article:. “The IFCJ notes that more than 1,000 Holocaust survivors die every month in Israel.”

    Hi SolontoCroesus,

    Jewish funeral director(s) must be making a killing at the reported death rate, above. Wonder if the survivors get either buried or rendered into crematorium oven?

    B.t.w, are you aware that Prince Charles’s Queen-mother is buried on the Mount of Olives? Looks like she got a “deal” almost equal to the one Joseph of Arimathea gave to The Christ, crucified.

    Lastly, after your telling me it’s Holocaust-Remembrance Day, I google-searched today’s menu at the Maven Shama’s favorite NYC-based restaurant, “Rao’s.” On special (this evening only) is toasted Zyklon B pellets, covered with cheap Morgen David wine.

    Thank you.

  277. @Cloak And Dagger

    Oh, and I forgot…

    Was Hitler evil?

    Almost certainly not. He was probably very slightly mentally ill (no more than any of us, of course), and he seems to have laboured under the misapprehension that European Jews are a race (rather than a religious and cultural group) which had him asking the wrong questions about important issues for a goodly part of his political career. (Example: he hated Communism for the wrong reason. It should be hated because central planning is a farcical joke… instead he hated it because it was the intellectual output of, and its hierarchy was dominated by, Jews).

    I’ve been listening to Toland’s “Adolf Hitler” (a 44-hour audiobook!!), and at the moment I am up to the point at which Nasty Uncle ‘Dolfie issues his ultimatum to the Austrian government (January 1938, for those paying at home) – the prelude to Anschluss.

    Although I’m a militant anarchist, I’ve been fascinated by Hitler since childhood: it’s the fault of the education system for putting forward a cartoon-villain version of the guy (it immediately triggered my bullshit detector). WWI corporal, failed painter, writer of windbaggy manifesto… ends up leading an entire country.

    How did a man who was homeless in the aftermath of WWI, wind up as undisputed head of one of the most educated industrial nations in the world at the time? Force of will only gets you so far, and then you actually have to have something concrete to offer.

    The European practice of assassinating unpopular political figures was kind of a ‘thing’ – yet Hitler could go about in public with no fear of someone taking a potshot at him: the only assassination attempt on him was during the war, by the German officer caste.

    So there were no Gavrilo Princips in Germany between 1926(ish) and 1939? No Saccos or Vanzettis? Literally nobody who had a personal hatred of Hitler, and nothing to lose? How odd.

  278. @Bill jones

    His phrasing did not make sense. Trump hasn’t built the wall, so I’m not sure how that could be an example of Trump carrying out his campaign promises.

    Despite being anti-war I would strongly support a border wall, given how inefficient and feckless the USA seems to be at handling its illegal aliens. Congress would never pass something that would meaningfully restrict illegal immigration though, everything has been through the executive branch thus far.

  279. @Kiza

    And you can be certain that Canada would be dragged into this conflict, as well. They think wrong if I (or any French-Canadians, for that matter) will risk our lives for such a mess.

  280. @Rurik

    Hi Rurik,

    Thanks for posting another intelligent response.

    I like the pictures! Looks like Assad detected sulphur-odor while standing alongside Tony Blair.

    F.Y.I., below is Times of Israel column on how Prince Charles “secretly” visited Mum’s gravesite. Wonder if he had armed-Jewish guards upon approach to the special grave?

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/prince-charles-secretly-visited-grandmothers-grave-while-in-jerusalem

    Ta ta!

  281. fredj says:

    Bomb the saudis for yemen and flatten oil rigs and refineries, maybe sprinkle with nuclear dust so unusable for 80 years, russia wins with price of oil , west thrown into a recession and a nefarious terrorist state goes down in flames

  282. geokat62 says:

    Our rulers have handed down their orders to their puppet:

    The Israel Project (TIP) CEO: U.S. Must Show Russia that a Permanent Iranian Presence in Syria is Unacceptable

    By withdrawing from Syria too soon, the United States would effectively hand over the country to Iran and Russia, risking a catastrophic “strategic collapse in a region long deemed vital to U.S. interests,” Joshua S. Block, CEO and President of The Israel Project, warned in an op-ed published in The Hill on Tuesday.

    “A lack of coherent strategy toward Syria is strengthening our adversaries and weakening our allies,” Block warned and “the power vacuum would immeasurably strengthen Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad and his evil regime propped up by his patrons Iran and Russia.”

    In Block’s view, “whatever the debate over the JCPOA — the nuclear agreement signed between Iran, six world powers and the European Union in 2015 — a robust consensus in Congress is needed that Iran’s military role in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and elsewhere must be countered.”

    “The United States needs to develop leverage to get Russia to tell the Iranians to leave Syria, and the best way to achieve that is to make clear to Moscow that we won’t leave before the Iranians are out of the picture,” he explained. “Anything short of that is not up for debate.”

    Block argued that America shouldn’t face those challenges alone and “should call upon our allies to increase their financial contributions — and to contribute more operationally.” He concluded: “The enemies we face are not just America’s enemies. They are enemies of the free world.”

    Meanwhile, former congressman Ron Paul, the only truth teller in that House of Whores, provides a good visual lesson about The Lobby’s approach:

    • Agree: Z-man, Rurik
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @geokat62
  283. Miro23 says:
    @geokat62

    For me, this is a fascinating video showing US image making over content. Current US society has to be the ultimate embodiment of vacuous public fakery.

    The senator has the right look, the soothing voice, the calmness, the American down home common sense drawl, the “trust your betters” attitude. They’re the adults – don’t ask questions – you’re not on their level – we’ll look after you.

    In other words it’s a con. He’s a salesman selling the public down the Israeli toilet . His problem is that he’s being interviewed by Tucker Carlson who’s rather clever, and the Senator himself is a dope on unfamiliar ground.

  284. @Kratoklastes

    Was Hitler evil?

    Almost certainly not. He was probably very slightly mentally ill (no more than any of us, of course)

    Thanks Kratoklastes, my question was rhetorical. There is quite a lot of video evidence to support the fact that Hitler was a patriot and a conservative family man. Some of the video with Eva Braun and with children, is quite touching. Here is one video that I had posted earlier. It is marked as “offensive” on youtube, so I suggest you download it before it disappears:

    The entire documentary is over 6.5 hours long, but it is divided into chapters that you can watch incrementally. If you want to really understand what happened in WW1 and WW2, and how Britain started the war and not Germany, this documentary is a must-view. It provides a very different view of Hitler as compared to what is bandied around.

    I share your fascination with an historically remarkable man whom we have demonized because he lost the war and we get to rewrite history in the traditional role of the victor. Meanwhile, the real demons are perpetrating evil on the west and the middle east, performing acts that they mendaciously accused the Nazis of.

    Were I not an atheist, I would wish on them to rot in hell – but being grounded in science, I wish for them to rot right here in this life plane, where I can watch them pay for what they have done and continue to do.

    • Agree: Kolo
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    , @chris
  285. @Cloak And Dagger

    I have that series saved to my hard drive, but have watched less than half of it.

    Even in Toland’s book, there are quite a few things that are really jarring (for those who are used to the ‘cartoon villain’ version) – for example when Hitler is told by a visiting English diplomat that the diplomat had gone hunting (with Goering and von Ribbentrop), Hitler reportedly said

    Pathetic – I cannot understand people who think it manly to kill an innocent animal using a refined piece of modern technology. May as well go to a slaughterhouse and shoot a cow.“.

    The diplomat was very put out by that.

    For me the footage with his dogs is hard to get past: the dogs are obviously very fond of him.

    Dogs are good source of insight into their owners’ character; the guy was known to be very volatile (i.e., he had a temper). So it says a lot that he clearly never took out his mood on his dogs (or if he did, never to an extent that made them scared of him).

    An animal-loving, non-smoking vegetarian who was never the subject of a domestic assassination attempt – that’s hard to square with the ‘wild-eyed homicidal evil maniac’.

    He even travelled in open-top vehicles through occupied Poland and Czechoslovakia – whereas Heydrich got assassinated. (I would like to see Tony Blair or George W Bush travel in an open-topped vehicle through Iraq or Afghanistan: methinks they would be torn apart by locals with their bare hands).

    At the end of the day Hitler was still a politician, so I hold no brief for him – but when I’m instructed that I must hate some historical individual, I always want to know what the real story is.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  286. denk says:

    CIA

    The Indonesia caper 1965 is a model op that should be copied elsewhere.

    and copy they did…..Chile, Libya, Syria, Kosovo, China, ukraine……..

    In this Oz edition, [1]
    The Aussies are being told that,

    China is gonna stake its claim on Oz and…

    Those Chinese students, tourists, your neighbour, form an army of fifth column controlled by the Chinese embassy, ready to rise up when Beijing give the command. !

    Talk about
    ROBBER CRYING ROBBERY [2]

    looks like the Aussies are no slough when it comes to dispensing bulshit, I’d say right up there with the perfidious albions and the forked tongue murkkans

    The five lies,
    Its a culture, a way of life.

    TPTB learned long ago that they could fool most of the sheeples all the time, so the lies are coming thick and fast, keep getting bigger and bolder,,,…..
    Here’s the best part,… the sheeples keep lapping it up with relish !
    In fact they get mad when I try to wean them away from their diet.

    Guess what ?
    Im called an aggressive ‘Chinese propagandist, supremacist’, for….
    exposing anglo propaganda !

    Yet another case of ROBBER …….

    [1]

    http://www.unz.com/article/meet-australian-aborigines-they-make-african-americans-look-like-a-model-minority/#comment-2254525

    [2]
    reality check,
    while fukusIndia ambassadors are synonymous with agent provocateurs,
    the Chinese had zero record in stirring up shit in host countries.
    Matter of fact, China has been at the receiving end of fukus covert wars in Tibet, Xinjiang, TAM, HK..………….

  287. Vojkan says:

    Yulia Skripal responding to the offer of assistance by the Russian embassy in the UK:

    “At the moment I do not wish to avail myself of their services, but, if I change my mind I know how to contact them.”

    Don’t know why but I’m having a hard time believing the formulation is just hers. As if the Brits wanted that no one believed them.

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
  288. 22pp22 says:
    @Kiza

    I have dual NZ-UK nationality.

    I have never been so ashamed.

    May deserves to hang alongside Blair.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  289. @Anon

    Annamarie doesn’t have to pose nor prove to you or anyone else as to how knowledgable she is, her frequent comments establish quite clearly that she’s far more knowledgable than your own comment history, or lack thereof, shows you to be. As for Sir Jim being Establishment or not, despite being from the lower classes, he was a procurer of little boys for former PM Ted Heath.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  290. @Svigor

    Even so, only a true nitwit would not bother to copy and paste the handle of the individual that he was replying to at the top of the reply, but on the bright side, I just follow the threads that Ron’s software has made so easy and natural to follow.

  291. @MacNucc11

    Corvanus is actually just a wind-up merchant so any and all comments emanating from such are not to be taken seriously, even if they are on the nose.

  292. Svigor says:

    I usually* don’t bother quoting who is making the comments because 1 it saves me time 2 it’s more about the ideas than the man delivering them 3 anyone who presented the idea should be perfectly capable of recognizing the quote as his own (and no one else gives a shit) 4 I see no compelling reason to go the extra mile and add names to the quotes.

    *sometimes, when my replies start getting complicated, I identify who is saying what.

    I do recall svigor trying to defend the Trump 2017 Shayrat missile strike….

    If memory serves, he did so very weakly on the grounds that the Syrians might really have launched a gas attack… but I suspect if it had been president obomber instead of the bozo…

    I was doing the same thing I’m doing here; shitting on shitty flathead “logic.”

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Herald
  293. Z-man says:
    @geokat62

    Informative post about the ‘Israel Project’. As always beware the power of the CABAL.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  294. Randal says:
    @Svigor

    What I am backing is good logic that doesn’t insult my intelligence. Flatheads say amazingly stupid shit, on a routine basis.

    Fair enough.

    There’s certainly plenty of foolishness on all sides. I tend to try, not always successfully, to reserve my attacks (certainly the vitriolic ones) for the fools I think are promoting bad causes with their foolishness, on the basis that the other side can be left to do the work in attacking foolish arguments in support of what I view as a correct position.

  295. Corvinus says:
    @FB

    Sophomoric cartoon aside, you haven’t disproven Putin’s thirst for blood and revenge.

    • LOL: geokat62
    • Replies: @FB
  296. Svigor says:

    Fair enough.

    There’s certainly plenty of foolishness on all sides. I tend to try, not always successfully, to reserve my attacks (certainly the vitriolic ones) for the fools I think are promoting bad causes with their foolishness, on the basis that the other side can be left to do the work in attacking foolish arguments in support of what I view as a correct position.

    I do very much the same, but flatheads are just so obnoxious. I’ve mentioned in other, recent threads how they drove me away from my previously more pro-Russia position, over the years.

    • Replies: @Randal
  297. Svigor says:

    Sophomoric cartoon aside, you haven’t disproven Putin’s thirst for blood and revenge.

    And you haven’t disproven Santa Claus.

  298. FB says:
    @Corvinus

    Hi Corvanus…

    Agreed…but you have proved plenty…enjoy…

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  299. Randal says:
    @Svigor

    but flatheads are just so obnoxious. I’ve mentioned in other, recent threads how they drove me away from my previously more pro-Russia position, over the years.

    Well that is inherently irrational (if understandable).

    More self discipline required. :-)

  300. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Its a bit question begging for you to suppose that you know enough about what she had said to judge it absolutely or relatively well informed. After all any half educated Brit would know that “sir Savile” is only a usage one would expect from a truly foreign foreigner or a complete outsider and that’s what you must be if you don’t know that. Ted Heath himself illustrates the vagueness of the concept of the Establishment as he only became Establishment ex-officio as PM – at this point I decided to confirm my memory of when the usage “the Establishment” was coined and went to Wikipedia which is quite good at least on the UK. What is perfectly clear is that only some share of real power or influence can make you part of the Establishment and there was no way Jimmy Savile “embodied the Establishment” as annamaria erroneously stated.

    BTW I had certainly read of posthumous suggestions that Heath was a paedophile, though most people while he was alive would have accepted asexual as most likely. Why do you think he was a paedophile or that Jimmy Savile had anything to do with it? Sure one can find any amount of tabloid rubbish by Googling their names but I would have thought Matthew Parris’s verdict “if Ted Heath was a paedophile then I’m an aardvark” is probably about as weighty as anything else I read. Or do you prefer the salacious imagination of Britain’s marvellous bobbies?

    As to annamaria, aren’t you a little curious as to what she actually knows about, and how – and why? Her devotion to the Russian cause is clear. Where do you think she lives? Do you see her as a totally free lance volunteer giving a huge amount of time or as paid agent?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @annamaria
  301. chris says:
    @Rurik

    That’s a (another) excellent observation, Rurik!

    I was always cynical about these overblown (pun intended) weather reports, but never realized the concerted effort they’re undertaking, which you’ve uncovered here.

    They’re all in on the little secrets about how the try to heard us all like sheep in any direction they want to.

    They do seem to be getting desperate though, maybe something big is coming down the pike and they think we’ll be so busy dealing with that, that we’ll forge all about the flagrant lies they’re feeding us now.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  302. @Z-man

    Z-man wisely wrote to enlightened geokat:”Informative post about the ‘Israel Project’. As always beware the power of the CABAL”

    Hi Z-man,

    Pompeo just told the TV-Sheeple to expect a preZidential decision soon regarding the fate of perpetual “Cabal” target, Syria.

    The power of the “Cabal” is enhanced by expert cunning/deception, and as Mike Pompeo tells his Jewish Lobby controlled Inquisitors that North Korea must get ZUS’s #1 attention, below is an article that suggests unspoken & inevitable bad tidings for Syria and Iran.

    https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/11/after-syria-strikes-israel-expects-proxy-war-with-iran/

    • Replies: @Z-man
  303. L.K says:
    @Svigor

    Nah, your were just being a fucking dip shit, that’s what.

  304. denk says:

    five lies democrazy 101….

    How to legitimise buddy Suharto’s annexation of West Papua,

    For nearly 40 years, a succession of Generals in Jakarta, from Suharto to Yudhoyono, together with their fellow conspirators in London, Washington, Canberra and the Hague, have told a very big lie; that the people of West Papua chose feely to join Indonesia in the 1969 “Act of Free Choice”. And by repeating the lie over and over again they’ve hoped that people would eventually come to believe it.

    ……………………

    Question: In the 1969 “Act of Free Choice”, were the West Papuan people allowed to exercise their internationally-recognised right to self-determination in accordance with international law?

    Answer: The United Kingdom government respects the territorial integrity of the Republic of Indonesia.

    https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/10/383820.html

    • Replies: @ANON
  305. Update just for information from one organ of the MSM, the Japanese owned FT

    The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons has confirmed Britain’s scientific analysis of the nerve agent used in last month’s Salisbury attack.

    The international watchdog said on Thursday that its team could “confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people”.

    Former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal, his daughter Yulia Skripal and a policeman, Nick Bailey, were hospitalised after the poisoning on March 4.

    Mr Bailey was discharged last month, while Ms Skripal was released from hospital on Monday. On Wednesday, she issued a statement through the Metropolitan Police rejecting overtures from Russian officials who wanted to speak to her.

    The OPCW’s summary report did not name the compound, which Britain has said is a military grade nerve agent from the novichok family that was developed in Russia.

    However, it named the chemical in its “full classified report”, which was made available to 192 state parties, including Russia.

    The OPCW said the toxic chemical “was of high purity” — lending credence to the UK’s argument that only a state with a sophisticated laboratory could realistically have deployed the chemical.

    In response, the Russian foreign ministry said it would not believe any conclusions of the investigation until it was allowed to participate in the probe and given access to the samples used for identifying the substance the Skripals were attacked with. Moscow had asked to be part of the OPCW’s investigation, but lost a vote among member states last week.

    “We cannot support in advance the results of an investigation in which we are not participating and which are being kept secret,” said Maria Zakharova, foreign ministry spokeswoman.

    Ms Zakharova’s criticism of the OPCW came at the end of an hour-long monologue in which she accused the British authorities of detaining Ms Skripal against her own will.

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    Moscow also seized on comments made last week by the head of Porton Down, Britain’s military laboratory, who said his team had not identified the precise source of the novichok used in the Salisbury attack.

    The British government responded that its tracing was based on intelligence showing that Russia has produced novichok in the past decade and experimented with its use for assassination.

    A key member of the Soviet research team that developed novichok in the 1970s and 1980s has also sided with the British government in its dispute with Moscow. Vladimir Uglev said he was sure the compound used was one of those his team had first developed in 1975, but cautioned that it would be impossible to prove beyond doubt where the Salisbury nerve agent had originated.

    The survival of the Skripals has been used to raise doubts about whether novichok could have been used in the poisoning. However, experts have said that the effect of the nerve agent would have depended on how they came into contact with it and in what form.

    There can be no doubt what was used and there remains no alternative explanation about who was responsible — only Russia has the means, motive and record

    Boris Johnson
    The OPCW said it took “blood samples from the three affected individuals”, conducted “on-site sampling of environmental samples” at places where the chemical might have remained, and received splits of samples taken by the British authorities. It was also briefed by the UK government.

    Following the publication of the OPCW report on Thursday, Boris Johnson, UK foreign secretary, said: “There can be no doubt what was used and there remains no alternative explanation about who was responsible — only Russia has the means, motive and record.”

    “We will now work tirelessly with our partners to help stamp out the grotesque use of weapons of this kind and we have called a session of the OPCW executive council next Wednesday to discuss next steps,” he added. “The Kremlin must give answers.”

    Earlier on Thursday, Jeremy Fleming, the head of GCHQ, said Russia’s targeting of the Skripals was “stark” and “shocking” and demonstrated “how reckless Russia is prepared to be”.

    “It demonstrates how little the Kremlin cares for the international rules-based order . . . how comfortable they are at putting ordinary lives at risk,” he said.

    Additional reporting by David Bond in Manchester

  306. Anon[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    While you choose to desecrate the memory of the Holocaust, some are remembering it from Space:

    Peace and Brotherhood

  307. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @denk

    Isn’t it important to note that the Cold War was at its height and China and North Vietnam were still hostile?

  308. edNels says:
    @Rurik

    I agree completely, no love lost among the Satanics. The use the gulliblity of their targeted peoples on the one hand and would use Martians to achieve their ultimate aims, or BodySnatchers…! (from the movie) maybe.

    White nations, if left to their own devises, would be reducing their sheer numbers, out of cultural and other realties. So in order to continue the madness of exponentially exploding the numbers …]

    Key to understanding your point i think, is that some within white nations, realize the predicament of having humans multiply beyond a beneficial number. It is a large thing to think about, so it’s easy to ignore! In these days there isn’t need for base populations to support the need foot soldiers, or manual laborers, arguable I guess.

    Weaponization of the worlds refugees is another thing, but the whites have one special weakness that will be their demise, it’s obvious to the Reptiles, their good intentions, their charity. My point about ‘‘Love of the muslims” was that this to be inferred by European style counties of those who operate this mass transfer and repopulation scheme, that it is likely to be misunderstood as Alturistic, while of course GAddamit! it is to get rid of… you and me brother! and the Genetic stock we rode in on.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  309. edNels says:
    @Rurik

    Trump is f’n Archie Bunker with a ha’ah cut.

    What a Creep show they are giving us now DC. almost as good as f’n TV used to be at one time.

    Some of our folks gave up on religion in times past (because it was taken over by the wrong kinds of purposes, and personages, and evils.) and, what was once just childish phantasy about Angels and Devils, It’s not so funny now.

    What did these mainstay religions give us to deal with our situation in the end of earth and life? Pay money tithes? show up spiffed up at Sunday and bow and scrape symbolically?

    Now what about the Evil that Is out there and is real, ”Who ya Gonna Call?”.

    my nation has been reduced to a mindless, drooling ogre and murderer, in the service of pathological psychopaths hell bent on Satanic domination of the planet. And with the eager collaboration of so-called “Christians” like Mike Pence, who’d sacrifice every Christian soul in Syria to the forces of evil, and crucifixion by ISIS, because doing so would be perceived as ‘good for the Jews’

    Who ya gonna call… Mike Pence?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  310. Rurik says:
    @chris

    They’re all in on the little secrets about how the try to heard us all like sheep in any direction they want to.

    and that’s exactly it too Chris, they consider us their farm animals

    corralled and fleeced and milked and on occasion, marched into the slaughterhouse

    all while the sheople bray their collective approval

    our elites treat us like farm animals, and we oblige, acting like our government is ‘protecting us and keeping us safe’, with police state total surveillance, media ‘programming’, and all for our own good!

    Our media are all in a dither about ‘Russia’ and Syria!, but the real enemy of the American people has been Washington, DC for over a hundred years. That’s why I often mention fragging, because that’s what (I believe) ended the Vietnam war, was when the soldiers realized their lives were perfectly expendable, indeed, the more young men that lay dying in the jungles of Southeast Asia, the less Washington, DC had to worry about taking care of them when they returned home. Hell, I believe that most big wars, like the World Wars, were specifically intended by the elites to mow the grass, as the Israelis like to call it, of too many young men.

    Just have them slaughter each other. Problem solved.

  311. Rurik says:
    @edNels

    I agree with everything you’re saying.

    They’re using our natural empathy as a weapon to destroy us. They’re using our capacity to love our enemies, and sense of fair play, to realize the bloodlust of their genocidal hatreds.

    This is one reason I’m occasionally critical of Christianity, because while the Christians are turning the other cheek, their enemies are plotting (and realizing) their absolute destruction.

    It’s the (brain-dead, suicidal) Christians of Minnesota that are importing the Somalis.

    it’s the brain-dead feminists of Sweden that are importing any and all swarthy young men from anywhere on the planet that might be willing to spend a night or ten with a frumpy, middle-aged Swedish women, who otherwise would lay alone in bed.

    so for all our kindnesses, we will surely be punished, perhaps off the planet, if we’re only kind and fair and thoughtful and loving enough!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Miro23
  312. Rurik says:
    @edNels

    ‘good for the Jews’

    Who ya gonna call… Mike Pence?

    ‘you still have a little on your upper lip Mike. You’ll want to lick that off before the photo opp.

    ‘you know Mike, unlike Lindsey, who clearly enjoys it, I appreciate it so much more from guys like you, who believe it’s a sin and gag all the time. That way I know the sacrifices you’re willing to make to please me personally, and that means a lot to me Mike.’

  313. chris says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Very interesting C&D, you bringing this up right now.

    The whole demonization of Putin (and Asad, etc.) is following a very similar pattern to that used against Hitler in the run-up to wwII. He is given no break and every reasonable request on his part is met by an unreasonable demand by the west. We’re all very lucky Putin has nerves of steel and that he’s familiar with recent history, but the point of the provocations is to take him over the edge.

    When pop-historians and other dilletants discuss the German population’s “anti-semitism,” before WWII, to whatever extent that may or may not be true, it is certainly easy to see how, in the presence of constant harassment and unreasonable demands, every population is bound to lash out at its tormentors.

    The fact is also that the Zionist-western elites see the assault on Russia as their highest priority, they’re not trying to reform Russians but to destroy them. And the point where that is the most obvious is the fact that the elites don’t care about the overwhelming resentment they’re building up, with the torrent of attacks, in their own and in the Russian population. These provocations can only mean that Russia and its entire population, in their eyes, is slated for the butcher’s block, or so it seems.

  314. Svigor says:

    Well that is inherently irrational (if understandable).

    More self discipline required. :-)

    I think the key for me has been how seldom my pro-Russian sentiments were reciprocated. Russian nationalists are more than a little like Zionists; they want to be nationalist with regard to Russia, but leftists with regard to everything and everyone else. They want everything, but offer nothing in return; they never reciprocate my universal ethnonationalist position, wherein I carve out space for White American nationalism, White Russian nationalism, etc. E.g., a typical flathead will take time out from his Russian nationalism to criticize White America’s history with the Amerinds. I figure anyone that obnoxious doesn’t need my help.

  315. Svigor says:

    Basically flatheads are the Russian version of your typical dumbass leftist freeper conservitard ‘Murrican “nationalists” who say “the democrats are the real racists.”

  316. Corvinus says:
    @WhiteWolf

    “Wouldn’t he already have planned ahead to counter the predictable response by the Brits?”

    Not necessarily. Why would Putin do something else? He is no fool in this regard.

  317. RobinG says:
    @22pp22

    Reported this morning that UK defense minister says No evidence of chemical weapons/gas. This can be clawed back. Keep up the pressure.

  318. @Rurik

    Rurik wrote:
    “This is one reason I’m occasionally critical of Christianity, because while the Christians are turning the other cheek, their enemies are plotting (and realizing) their absolute destruction.”

    Hi Rurik,

    Regarding words above, you are not alone in criticizing Christianity.

    I have no idea on how many either practicing or crypto-satanists post comments here at U.R., but I intuit how they must delight with the very small percentage of Christians, past & present, who actually obey The Christ’s plea to “Love thine Enemy.”

    One thing to keep in mind, Brother Rurik?

    When mere Zionist-studs like Trump & Netanyahu threaten Syria & Iran with “absolute destruction,” they are simply not on-the-same spiritual wavelength as was the (only begotten) Son who typically promised tenacious followers everlasting life in “the Kingdom to come.”

    At any rate, please recall how happy was 1984′s “Big Brother” when the pummeled Winston Smith finally came to love him?

    Thanks, sore cheeks and… uh, Christos voskres 99 X’s!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  319. @Reactionary Utopian

    I think he clearly isn’t serious about building the wall, as far as one can discern the intentions of so random an individual.

    He may be serious about building it, but is running into opposition from people that he knows can ensure that he assumes room-temperature when they want him to…

  320. @Anon

    While you choose to desecrate the memory of the Holocaust

    Nonsensical statement.

    How can one desecrate the memory of a phantasm?

    What huge imago made
    A psychopathic god?

    • LOL: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  321. @Anon

    False memory syndrome

    https://www.britannica.com/science/false-memory-syndrome

    . . .also called recovered memory, pseudomemory, and memory distortion, the experience, usually in the context of adult psychotherapy, of seeming to remember events that never actually occurred. These pseudomemories are often quite vivid and emotionally charged, especially those representing acts of abuse or violence committed against the subject during childhood.

    . . .
    certain therapeutic practices are considered likely to reinforce and encourage their creation. For example, some therapists use hypnosis or techniques of “guided imagery” on clients who appear to be suffering from the suppression of memories of emotionally disturbing events, often experienced during childhood. Encouraged to visualize episodes of violence or abuse during therapy, clients may subsequently have difficulty separating these imaginary events from reality. Researchers have found that people who “recover” pseudomemories of trauma are often more suggestible and more prone to dissociate—that is, to feel separated from their actual experiences—than most other people. . .
    https://www.britannica.com/science/false-memory-syndrome

    In the early- to mid-1980s, Zevi Weiss led an organization that eventually inserted “expanded consciousness of the holocaust” in American universities, military academies, then public secondary and primary schools. But Weiss’s first project was to collect the memories of holocaust survivors. These persons were identified and interviewed by Jewish volunteers who were mental health professionals. The memories of these survivors formed a footing for “holocaust awareness” to be expanded into the consciousness of Americans in all its educational institutions.

    https://www.amazon.com/Expanding-Historical-Counsciousness-Development-Educational/dp/0810114534/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523579957&sr=8-1&keywords=expanding+consciousness+holocaust

    Recently, Unzite redmudhooch alerted the forum to the “Never Again Education Act” making its way through US Congress.
    According to Jewish News Syndicate (JNS) –

    ‘Never Again Education Act’ to teach American students about the Holocaust
    Proposed legislation, if passed in the U.S. House of Representatives, would grant money raised through donations to American schools as part of the Holocaust Education Assistance Program.

    A draft of the “Never Again Education Act” calls Holocaust education “a national imperative to educate students in the United States so that they may explore the lessons that the Holocaust provides for all people, sensitize communities to the circumstances that gave rise to the Holocaust, and help youth be less susceptible to the falsehood of Holocaust denial and distortion and to the destructive messages of hate that arise from Holocaust denial and distortion.”

    New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney, the lead sponsor of the legislation, will promote the bill on Tuesday at the Olga Lengyel Institute for Holocaust Studies and Human Rights in New York City, accompanied by representatives of Hadassah, B’nai B’rith International and the Association of Holocaust Organizations.

    Also sponsoring the bill are Reps. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.); Ted Deutch (D-Fla.); Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.); Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.); Kay Granger (R-Texas); Nita Lowey (D-N.Y.); and Dan Donovan (R-N.Y.). Lowey and Granger both sit on the House of Appropriations Subcommittee. https://www.jns.org/never-again-education-act-to-educate-american-students-about-the-holocaust/

    This is pernicious and must be confronted and stopped, as an infringement on the First Amendment to the US Constitution: it amounts to the imposition of a dogmatized narrative, to which neither critical analysis nor counterbalancing information is tolerated, which puts it in the category of enforcement a religious belief, at taxpayer expense in US taxpayer institutions.

    [nb. earlier I posted a video presentation to the Justice for Germans society by Frank Raymond. I notice that that video has been rendered “unavailable” where it was posted on Unz forum. It still exists on the web –

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  322. @Kiza

    During the war, there is only one truth – theirs.

    True.

    And note that there is always some state of war.

  323. @Kratoklastes

    Interesting comments. The more one looks into the history of National Socialism (and I am a Rothbardian anarcho-capitalist, FWIW) and WW2 in general, one realizes official accounts don’t just trigger bullshit detectors, they cause them to blow a fuse.

  324. @Anon

    Appropriate this is being done from space, since the official account of the Holocaust is so vacuous.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  325. @Wizard of Oz

    As usual it’s impossible to discern what point you’re trying to make, but this caper has been nothing but a fiasco for the British government (who deserve far, far worse than humiliation).

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/new-developments-in-the-skripal-drama-police-statement-opcw-report-release.html#more

  326. @Anon

    In space, no one can hear you steam. (You know, like the steam chambers they used to say were used at Treblinka, see what I did there?)

  327. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Here’s a mind stretching thought for those who are fascinated by all the odd relics of real and mythical behaviour and status in British society…. Under which PM would Bill Cosby (UK TV star and family man) have become “Sir William”. My nomination is John Major. And who would have trumped that by making him Lord Cosby? Who else but Tony Blair? For bonus marks: On what Bill or subject would Lord Cosby have made his maiden [sic] speech in the Lords?

    But does anyone really think he becomes *part of* the Establishment? As to my answers on that question wrt Jimmy Savile I think I missed the obvious. People like that are part of the powerful’s privileged access to entertainment. Think court jesters, think Marilyn Monroe, think Frank Sinatra etc etc. What about the sleazy but perhaps charming party giver Stephen Ward who procured Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice-Davies (i.e. invited them to the same parties as randy ministers and spies)? No, you are not going to encourage annamaria in her out of her comfort/knowledge zone opinionating, are you?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  328. @Beefcake the Mighty

    No point but help to all those who might have switched off before reading or hearing that there has been an OPCW report. And help to those who are so confident that their knowledge and reasoning gives their currently expressed opinions serious weight, which, as you can easily check, is antipathetic to my sceptical disposition.

    I haven’t yet considered treating moonofalabama as a serious competitor with the FT for reliable fact and opinion. (Do you?) As I know practically nothing about that Blog or webzine or whatever it is would you care to tell me about it, and its absolute and relative strengths and weaknesses? Disclosure that it is run at weekends by your favourite mother-in-law would be appropriate too :-)

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  329. Miro23 says:
    @Rurik

    … so for all our kindnesses, we will surely be punished, perhaps off the planet, if we’re only kind and fair and thoughtful and loving enough!

    In Game Theory this is a losing strategy. It only works in a protected high trust environment (where it works very well). The problem is cheaters.

    When you introduce cheaters in a more atomized competitive environment, a Tit-for-Tat strategy is the clear winner:

    An agent using this strategy will first cooperate, then subsequently replicate an opponent’s previous action. If the opponent previously was cooperative, the agent is cooperative. If not, the agent is not. This is similar to superrationality and reciprocal altruism in biology.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat

    This means that for every individual contact you at first cooperate – and test the result. If it is positive (both gain) then next time round you cooperate again. Conversely, if it is negative (cheating), then the cheater is excluded (non-cooperation) next time round. The strategy quickly cleans out bad players and builds positive interactions.

    Following this line, an event like 9/11 (cheating) should have stopped all interaction and cooperation with Israel and US Zionists. This would have been a positive tit-for-tat result for the US, but was prevented by cloaking (i.e. the cheating was hidden or blamed on others, and key players on the US team are turned – they are traitors and secretly play for the cheaters).

    There’s also the religious aspect of ” kind and fair and thoughtful and loving” that’s probably worth considering.

    The modern West grew out of Medieval Europe where institutionalized Christianity dominated every aspect of daily life. The idea was that you were born an sinner and permanently guilty (need for repentance and exemplary behaviour). IMO this conditioning is still there in European populations, making them uniquely vulnerable to “guilt tripping” in a way that neutralizes Tit-for-Tat.

    It’s interesting that when Hitler excluded Jews from Germany he also threw out Christianity, seeing it as the enemy of the German people, ” The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practices a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them.”

  330. “Liars Lying About Nearly Everything”

    Just a note, I love this title and have to admit, you needed to add

    “, All the Time.”

    Making trust nearly impossible. every official action now requires that I pray and keep my fingers crossed.

  331. @Anon

    The term The Establishment is not fixed and varies according to how it is used and by whom. It certainly has a different meaning than it did at the beginning of the last century. Britain has a vast culture of social climbing so many who consider themselves to be Establishment may not actually be considered as such by others.

    RT produced a documentary that went into great detail about how Sir Jim had special privileges at certain boys homes due to his charity work including selecting some for day trips out with him including on Heath’s yatch. I think he joined Thatcher for Christmas dinner IIRC, though I don’t think little boys were being served up on that occasion.

    I really don’t care a rodent’s patootie where Annamarie lives or how she derives income but I would say that her comments are usually accompanied by links to validate that which she has written and she generally receives far more praise from other commenters than she does criticism.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10950111/The-alleged-paedophile-ring-at-the-heart-of-the-British-Establishment.html

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  332. @Beefcake the Mighty

    fresh out of LOLs;
    wil half-a-dozen of these do?

    ! ! ! ! ! !

  333. @Wizard of Oz

    MoA has far more intellectual honesty than you. (A rather low bar, admittedly, but still.)

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  334. Eagle Eye says:
    @Vojkan

    Yulia Skripal responding to the offer of assistance by the Russian embassy in the UK:

    “At the moment I do not wish to avail myself of their services, but, if I change my mind I know how to contact them.”

    A good question to ask is – what exactly were her words in the original Russian? Most likely, the Brits have not even troubled to create a Russian version of this supposed pronouncement. In other words, the MI5 operators may have been too “cute” or too lazy in putting out this message. Of course, they don’t need to worry about inquisitiveness from their co-opted media.

    Typically, colloquial English phrases such as “if I change my mind I know how to contact them” do not translate well from/into Russian or other foreign languages. Thus, highly idiomatic expressions in purported English statements by a foreign speaker often indicate that the statement is fake. (There is no indication that Yulia S. has this level of fluency in English, so the conversation would presumably have occurred in Russian.)

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  335. @Eagle Eye

    Sounds like a pretence of learned argument but actual BS. To start with you make a point about translating “colloquial” English into other languages (unspecified apart from Russian) from which one has to make the unsupported leap to a problem of translating *from” Russian to English. Anyway utter crap because it is hard to conceive of a language so primitive that it can’t readily express a contingent or conditional premise about changing one’s mind/preference/opinion/percept-ion and the corollary of that fully spelled out, or truncated because so clear in meaning. What cave man could not convey to his brother “If my women produce more mouths to feed before winter and I decide to keep them this time I know who I’ll be asking to get off his bum and hunt with me”?

    Perhaps you are indeed a linguist who can enlarge on the problems with Russian and English beyond that example (nothing to do with colloquial speech btw) that I presume you know derived from absence of the definite article in Russian, to wit “[the] occupied territories”; to which one might add the tendentious Russia favouring “The Ukraine” when of course it is only Ukraine in Russian.

    Perhaps your problem incldes your confusing “colloquial” with “idiomatic”. *If it were* a problem of translating English to Russian, which it isn’t, you could hardly say “change my mnd” is an imagination-challenging idiom like, say, “pay the piper” or that the “I know how to contact them” has the flavour of idiom like “I know where you live” in some contexts.

    So, you add no reason to add to anyone’s suspicions of what the British may be up to.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @Eagle Eye
    , @Eagle Eye
  336. Vojkan says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I happen to speak a Slavic language natively, Serbian, and though I don’t speak Russian, I seldom need a dictionary when I read it. I know how Slavic languages are structured, how Latin languages are structured, French is my second mother tongue and I also seldom need a dictionary when I read Spanish and Italian. I read Shakespeare in the original without a dictionary. The structure of a language is closely related to the way people native in that language structure their thoughts.
    If the German make Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes, and Americans make Intel and Apple, it has a lot to do with the German and English languages respectively, just as Sukhoi has a lot to do with the way the Russian language is structured.
    There is no way a native Russian speaker would have concocted that statement and there is no way that could be a literal translation of a statement Yulia Skripal made without “assistance”. It is just too pretentious English to be true.

  337. @Vojkan

    No doubt Yulia Skripal had assistance in finalising her media release. So does every professional politician on occsions both important and routine. The Great Tweeter is often a remarkable exception.

    You are giving a version of the intuitively satisfying Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis which remains, after more than 80 years, a hypothesis abput which perhaps linguists like you may have something useful to say. However it, and your culture-language point, don’t really go to the question whether the English words used to represent Yulia Skripal’s thoughts actually do so fairly and accurately. It is not a general question relating to Russian culture so much as a question whether there is any problem in thinking an educated Russian might acknowledge that she could (theoretically) change her mind or say in a civil manner that she would be able to take the initiative in making contact if she did. I don’t think anything you say argues against that.

    You have prompted me to recall the name of a book I found instructive and entertaining 20 years ago and which you might enjoy. It is Polish Australian academic Anna Wirzbicka’s “Understanding Cultures Through Their Key Words: English, Russian, German, Polish, Japanese”. I recall little detail except the presumed enjoyment of a Pole who can point to the Russian proliferation of words for fool, dumb, idiot and so on. About her see

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Wierzbicka?wprov=sfla1

    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    , @NoseytheDuke
  338. @Beefcake the Mighty

    You prefer mild abuse to any attempt to actually answer my question I see. Is that a reflection of your capacity in matters intellectual?

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  339. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    The key phrase in Block’s statement were these highlighted words:

    The United States needs to develop leverage to get Russia to tell the Iranians to leave Syria, and the best way to achieve that is to make clear to Moscow that we won’t leave before the Iranians are out of the picture,” he explained. “Anything short of that is not up for debate.”

    I think we all can agree that:

    1. the alleged popular uprising in Maidan (Ukraine),
    2. the alleged Novichok poisonings in Salisbury (England),
    3. the alleged accidental shoot down of a Russian fighter jet by the Turks, and
    4. their coup de grace, Bill Browder’s Herculean efforts to get Parliaments around the world to pass the Magnitsky Act to avenge the death of Browder’s “lawyer” Sergei Magnitsky.*

    are just a few examples of “the leverage” The Lobby had in mind.

    Eager to see what other forms of leverage (((they’ll))) dream up in the future.

    * Needless to say, Browder’s fairytales have been completely debunked by Andrey Nekrasov’s docu-drama, The Magnisky Act. Behind The Scenes and by Alex Krainer’s book, The Killing of William Browder.

  340. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    “paid agent”
    – You are a scoundrel, sir.

  341. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    Your beloved Establishment includes the Pious Blair, a major war criminal, the verbose May (another major war-criminal-in-making), the clueless Gavin Williamson, and the clownish “passionate Zionist” Boris Johnson.
    You have carefully avoided responding to my mention of James Arbuthnot and his wife Emma Arbuthnot. His lordship is in service to the Friends of Israel and to weapon manufacturer. And her honor is a stain on the British judicial system.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/julian-assange-accused-of-cowardice-by-british-judge-2018-2

  342. annamaria says:

    “Yulia Skripal Is Plainly Incommunicado and Under Duress,” by Craig Murray: https://www.globalresearch.ca/yulia-skripal-is-plainly-under-duress/5635804
    “Only the Russians have allowed us to hear the actual voice of Yulia Skripal, in that recorded conversation with her cousin. So the one thing we know for certain is that, at the very first opportunity she had, she called back to her cousin in Russia to let her know what is going on. If you can recall, until the Russians released that phone call, the British authorities were still telling lies that Sergei was in a coma and Yulia herself in a serious condition…
    The most probable explanation is that Yulia persuaded somebody else in the hospital to lend her a phone, without British officials realizing. That would explain why the first instinct of the British state and its lackey media was to doubt the authenticity of the call. It would explain why she was able to contradict the official narrative on their health, and why she couldn’t get a return call. It would, more importantly, explain why her family has not been able to hear her voice since. Nor has anybody else.”
    – She is held under arrest. She is a Russain citizen. The UK government has been violating the international law by preventing a representative of Russian Federation to visit a sick Russian citizen stranded in the UK.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  343. Svigor says:

    While you choose to desecrate the memory of the Holocaust

    I love this shit. Jews desecrate every-fucking-thing anyone else believes in – it’s practically their national sport – but expect us to hold their mythos as sacred.

    Newsflash, the quickest way to get me to take a dump on any historical narrative is to declare it sacred. That goes double for any historical narrative sacred to Jews.

    Seriously, go fuck yourself.

    • Agree: chris
  344. Svigor says:

    desecrate.askdefine.com

    Verb
    1 violate the sacred character of a place or language; “desecrate a cemetary”; “violate the sanctity of the church”; “profane the name of God” [syn: profane, outrage, violate]
    2 remove the consecration from a person or an object [syn: deconsecrate] [ant: consecrate]

    It is the moral duty of every human being to desecrate the Jewish holocaust narrative (and any other sacred historical narrative).

    History is no place for the sacred.

  345. @Miro23

    What is the source for the quote you rely upon to support your (tendentious) claim that Hitler “threw out Christianity?”

    • Replies: @Miro23
  346. @annamaria

    annamaria shared:
    “Yulia Skripal Is Plainly Incommunicado and Under Duress,” by Craig Murray: ”

    Hi annamaria,

    Do you think Yulia would have survived had either Russian SVR, CIA/Mossad/M16 agents actually desired otherwise?

    I do not.

    The Crown’s dark burden, Tessie May, succeeded at rendering the world ever more confused and “Under Duress.”

    Thanks for all education you provide!

  347. @Wizard of Oz

    No, it’s a reflection of the person I’m dealing with.

  348. Mike P says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    As long as they don’t unequivocally state that the investigating scientists themselves detected the poison in or on the bodies of the affected persons, it all means very little. Even if the poison were to be found on those people, it wouldn’t tell us where it came from.

  349. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Having reworked and extended my piece Novichok: Russia’s Antidote to Seafood Poisoning I am more inclined than before to believe it possible that the Skripals were treated with Novichok as an antidote to botulinum toxin, it being the case that the one nerve agent, because of a difference in mode of action, could be an effective antidote to the other nerve agent, as I explain in the piece linked above.

    To be credible, the theory must presume orchestration of the entire sequence of events. Thus, the botulinum toxin must have been deliberately administered as a sub-lethal dose in the seafood lunch that the Skripals consumed several hours before they were taken ill. (Although botulinum toxin can occur in seafood, it does not occur in fresh seafood — as opposed to canned food, since Clostridium botulinum only produces the toxin under anoxic conditions.)

    But if the affair was orchestrated, the Skripals were surely participants rather than victims in the operation, a plausible assumption since Sergei Skripal is known to have worked for MI6 and may have resumed his service to them on release from Russian gaol.

    So how was it worked?

    I suggest that there was a small dose of botulinum toxin added to their seafood lunch, which caused illness several hours later, but not the vomiting and convulsions as reported by the doctor who attended on them and asked that her name not be released to the public. Rather the illness would have been manifest as the paralysis characteristic of botulism. If that assumption is correct, then we must assume that the attending, unidentified doctor who described the Skripals’ symptons as those of poisoning by a nerve agent of the Novichok type, is an agent of MI6 and that she deliberately misled the media.

    Once received at the Salisbury Trust Hospital, experts in nerve agent poisoning at the nearby British Chemical and Biological Weapons research establishment would have been consulted, which would have created the opportunity for them to supply the hospital with British-made Novichok as an antidote to botulinum toxin, the mechanism whereby one nerve agent counteracts another being described in my above-linked post. The identity of this antidote may well not have been disclosed to the Hospital staff.

    After that, the Skripals may have been kept in a more or less comotose state with, perhaps repeated small doses of botulinum toxin, which would have necessitated continual infusions of Novichok to prevent paralysis and death by asphyxiation. That would explain why, weeks after the initial poisoning, blood samples of the “victims” still contained detectable quantities of Novichok. It would also explain why Yulia Skripal, though released from hospital, is in UK police custody.

    The objective now, if the above scenario is a more or less accurate representation of actual events, must be to keep the Skripals out of the hands of the Russian state, where they could be forced to disclose their complicity in a psyop. perpetrated to undermine the credibility and moral standing of the Russian government.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  350. Miro23 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    What is the source for the quote you rely upon to support your (tendentious) claim that Hitler “threw out Christianity?”

    MONARCHY & RELIGION – (15) “Both are institutions that naturally developed in the direction of ceremonial and solemnity. But all that apparatus no longer means anything when the power that lay beneath it has disappeared.” (145) “Just like the throne and the altar in former times so now the Jews and the political profiteers form a silent association for the common exploitation of the democratic milch cow.” (4) The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practices a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them.” (125) “To avoid making myself an accomplice to the lies, I’ve kept the shavelings out of the Party.”

    CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTORS – (235) “I contented myself with shooting one hundred and thirty of these self-styled Bible Students (Bibelforscher). Incidentally the execution of these one hundred and thirty cleared the air, just like a thunderstorm does. When news of the shootings was made public, many thousands of similarly minded people who proposed to avoid military service on the score of some religious scruple or other lost their courage and changed their minds.”

    Hitler’s Table Talk (Conversation Nº) with an introduction by H. R. Trevor-Roper, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, London 1953.

  351. @Miro23

    Hi Miro23,

    Ideally it’s needless to lecture you on the pervasive Zionist spin placed upon pre & post WW II history.

    For an example, I read Ralf Georg Reuth’s book, “Goebbles.”

    The author made a case that Goebbels’ father wanted to throw him out of the family because his son deserted from Christianity.

  352. @Miro23

    iow “Hitler threw out Christianity” was not policy, or legislation, or an agenda item, it was the equivalent of cocktail party chatter, the authenticity of which is challenged on several aspects, not least that the original manuscript was only discovered, and now is missing.

  353. @Kratoklastes

    “I would like to see Tony Blair or George W Bush travel in an open-topped vehicle through Iraq or Afghanistan:”

    Neither of those two can go anywhere without full security teams watching over them. Bush couldn’t ride through Dallas in an open convertible, let alone anywhere in the middle east. He and Blair are unsafe in their own homes.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  354. @Svigor

    Sviggy, I use a linux distro with an old version of FF for internet browsing, and have never had any java platform (or Flash) to use, yet this site displays perfectly and all the features work. You’re just too retarded to use the site features, and you’re probably flogging away on a windows 10 machine with IE as your browser. The last you heard, Windoze was the very last word in operating systems.

    BTW, I don’t know what you’ve explained because I rarely read any of your dimbulb dronings. You’ve been on my ignore list for a long time.

  355. The Liars have started bombing Syria! God help us all.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  356. Mike P says:
    @CanSpeccy

    What would be the point of this torture? No evidence of clinical manifestations of the supposed poisoning has been shown to the public. Why should we assume anything at all has happened?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  357. RobinG says:

    Vanessa Beeley wrote from Damascus -

    “40 minutes of cruise missiles across Syria

    Syria and Russia responding”

  358. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Mike P

    What would be the point

    To provide victims. Otherwise it would have been known and likely made public that no poisoning victims had been admitted to hospital.

    The Skripals, whether witting or otherwise, were the victims, though poisoned not by Novichok but by their seafood lunch.

    In addition, the success of the operation depended on providing the OPCW with blood samples from Novichok exposed victims of poisoning, which is what the charade made possible.

    However, the samples were not, as generally assumed, from victims poisoned by a nerve agent, hence the wording of Dr. Davies’s letter. Rather, they were samples from people treated with a nerve agent.

  359. @CanSpeccy

    I saw speculation somewhere that they partook of fugu sushi. No corroboration.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  360. @Twodees Partain

    I’ve never been a fan of those guys, but the ‘topper’ was when the only thing they could find to execute Saddam Hussein for, was that Hussein supposedly had 140-odd people executed after an assassination attempt.

    That’s some chutzpah from the Western political scumbags, given what happened to Fallujah: an entire town was destroyed, every MAM (military aged male) who didn’t evacuate was executed, and ambulances were strafed… as a collective punishment for the combat deaths of 4 mercenaries. Sure, their corpses were desecrated, but so what? To paraphrase the US sociopath in the ‘Collateral Murder’ video: “they shouldn’a brung themselves to a war zone“.

    I can only wonder what would have been visited on Dujail if there had been an attempt on the life of a visiting US dignitary: under the gentle ministrations of NATO/US ‘responsibility to protect’, 140-odd deaths is not even a bad weekend.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  361. @NoseytheDuke

    “Britain has a vast culture of social climbing so many who consider themselves to be Establishment may not actually be considered as such by others.”

    So true, that. Hearing the explanation of the difference between a cad and a bounder, that view of social position is obvious. Not being an upper class Brit, I’m not sure that I have it right, but; a cad is an upper class person who behaves abominably while a bounder is a social climber who can’t resist trying to bump up against his betters.

    That’s why a cad can never be a bounder or vice versa, at least if I’m understanding the explanation I heard.

  362. @Vojkan

    “There is no way a native Russian speaker would have concocted that statement and there is no way that could be a literal translation of a statement Yulia Skripal made without “assistance”. It is just too pretentious English to be true.”

    Yes, that makes sense to me. A translation would include substitution of a term of similar meaning when a direct translation wouldn’t deliver the proper idea expressed.

  363. @Kratoklastes

    Indeed. I’ve often wondered what kind of administration an American president might run if he knew that his SS protection ended when he left office, or how a senator might behave if he had no SS protection when he went out among the people subject to his rule.

  364. @Twodees Partain

    I really cannot say as I haven’t lived there in quite some time but I don’t think either term is in common usage and I’ve certainly never been called either. I’ve mostly been called a prick, but I just assumed that it was a form of flattery.

  365. @Cloak And Dagger

    Cloak and Dagger announced:
    “The Liars have started bombing Syria! God help us all.”

    Hi C & D,

    I appreciate your piercing-comment (above) which is in perfect synch with Phil Giraldi’s article title, “Liars lying about everything.”

    Unfortunately, American citizens are conditioned to accept new & bigger ZUS government lies soon after terrible old whoppers are assigned to the Jewish Neoconservative “Memory Hole.”

    Since you mentioned humanity’s oft common plea, “God help us all,” please consider reading (below) the brave words of Jonas E. Alexis, published on this fateful morning by “Veterans Today.”

    “In short, by allying with the Israeli regime and the Neoconservative ideology in order to destroy Syria, Trump has found himself in bed with Satanism, which seeks to subvert the moral and political order. In that sense, Trump is seeking World War III in Syria for Israel. In that sense, Trump is not working for the American people.”

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  366. @SolontoCroesus

    While you choose to desecrate the memory of the Holocaust

    Nonsensical statement.

    The real holocaust consisted of the horrors many tens of millions of “Christians” suffered at the hands of the bankers, usurers and Red millionaires of the time, maybe that’s what was being referred to. ;)

  367. @Twodees Partain

    …but a cad is an upper class person who behaves abominably while a bounder is a social climber who can’t resist trying to bump up against his betters…

    The first time I ever heard the word “cad” was when a woman, an English major, who was in hot pursuit of me called me that. While she got the “behaving abominably” part correct, she was wrong about the rest.

    I think it was the abominable part that attracted her; nevertheless she was no shirker in that department either if ya get the drift…

    Ah, the old days! ;)

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  368. @SolontoCroesus

    Thanks so much for calling my attention to all that. I missed redmudhooch’s comment and now I’ll have to be alert for them.

    The best antidote I’ve found to all of this crackpot brainwashing is to simply raise the question about the veracity of it all. Kids are capable of sorting through a lot of BS in the right environment, and when they learn to question things, they can connect the dots.

  369. @Beefcake the Mighty

    As usual it’s impossible to discern what point you’re trying to make…

    The point is that we’re supposed to be awed by the gibberish of modern day oracles.

    The professor must be an obscurantist or he is nothing; he has a special and unmatchable talent for dullness, his central aim is not to expose the truth clearly, but to exhibit his profundity, his esotericity – in brief to stagger sophomores and other professors.

    H. L. Mencken

    — Ch. 15 “The Dismal Science”

  370. @Miro23

    It’s interesting that when Hitler excluded Jews…

    You got that backwards. The reality is bit more nuanced than that, but only a bit.

    A bigger truth is that some Jews excluded themselves from Germany, some Jews, (Zionists included) worked with the Nazis, and many were indifferent. Some Jews prospered under the Nazis while some chose to view them as a threat.

    I find it very interesting that the biggest opponents to Hitler were not Jews in Germany, but those living in New York, many of whom were rich Reds.

    Hitler, in fact, was likely much more interested in eliminating the Bolshie threat than excluding Jews qua Jews, and any resistance to that idea is a result of brainwashing with wartime propaganda.

    Many people wanted German Jews to leave for Palestine.

    Mr. Brandeis in America similarly, and imperially, decreed that “No Jew must live in Germany”. Mr. Churchill desired that “three or four million Jews” should be transplanted to Palestine; the Communist state, by profession anti-Zionist, supplied the first contingent of these.

    When the smoke of battle cleared only three purposes had been achieved, none of them disclosed at its start: the world-revolution, with Western arms and support, had advanced to the middle of Europe; Zionism had been armed to establish itself in Palestine by force; the “world-government”, obviously the result which these two convergent forces were intended to produce, had been set up anew in embryo form, this time in New York. The war behind the war was the true one; it was fought to divert the arms, manpower and treasure of the West to these purposes.

    -Douglas Reed, “the Controversy of Zion,” p 333 (written ~1955 )

    https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt

  371. @ChuckOrloski

    Regarding words above, you are not alone in criticizing Christianity.

    In my very humble opinion, “Christianity” died when the anointed one got his tusch tacked to the cross. Even before he gasped his last breath, there is no doubt that distortions of whatever he taught took root.

    Christianity as we now know it really became perverted the minute it became an institution and it’s been downhill ever since.

    Julian the Apostate had a lot to say about it and it’s too bad that the “Christians” of the time probably destroyed the bulk of what he wrote.

    Many of us would be much happier if we learned to put little or no trust in institutions, to think for ourselves, and if we were aware that the State is a religion subject to the usual degeneration as well.

  372. Corvinus says:
    @FB

    Indeed, I proved that you are skirting the issue like an SJW. Under the Putin regime, the body count of his enemies has grown. And somehow 34 Russian journalists in the last decade just “died”?

    Occam’s Razor applies here.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @CanSpeccy
  373. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Ron really needs to add an “Idiot” button.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  374. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Fugu or pufferfish, produces tetrodotoxin, a sodium channel blocker the effect of which would not likely be much if at all reversed by Novichok, an acetylcholine esterase inhibitor. However, It seems unlikely that an Italian restaurant chain would offer fugu fish, the sale of which is not permitted in the UK.

  375. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Twodees Partain

    Cads and bounders have not existed in Britain since about 1914, except in the timeless novels of P.G. Wodehouse.

  376. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Corvinus

    And somehow 34 Russian journalists in the last decade just “died”?

    You mean like that German journalist who said that for years he’d written lies for the CIA and who then “just “died””?

  377. Tigran123 says:
    @Anonymous

    The comment about heroin addled russians and evil intent is A rant. Imputation of evil irrational motives to states and leaders are almost alway and self serving. Russian policy toward krym, chechnya, Kaliningrad and Dagestan is real politic and no more brutal than any other state facing existential threats.

  378. @ChuckOrloski

    Indeed.

    From Gilad Atzmon:

    How Israel Postponed WW3 (inadvertently)

    [MORE]

    In 2014 Sky owner and media mogul Rupert Murdoch won the ADL Award. The honour was clearly awarded for a reason. On occasion, Sky changes itself into a state propaganda service. The video above shows such an event . Sky crudely cut off the former commander of the British Armed Forces, Jonathan Shaw, as soon as he went ‘off script’ by suggesting that the Syrian regime couldn’t have been behind the Douma gas attack. General Shaw attempted to point out that chemical warfare is a desperate act, not something you would expect from the Assad regime that has basically won.

    Before yesterday, I had not believed that America would be foolish enough to lead an attack on Syria. My rationale was simple. The Russians have recently deployed their most sophisticated, yet untested, S-400 air defence system in Syria. The Russian S-400 is designed to intercept America’s 1970’s technology Tomahawk cruise missiles. I thought that it could be a fatal blow to America and to NATO to be in a situation in which many of its Tomahawk Missiles targeting Syria were downed by a Russian anti aircraft system. I was pretty sure that American military leaders wouldn’t take such a risk and certainly not for Israel. I was wrong. America, Britain and France did take that risk. According to the Russians and the Syrians most of the cruise missiles were downed. If Syria and Russia are telling the truth, NATO is an obsolete military joke. Maybe we should actually thank Israel for bringing this all to light.

    Israeli press reported last week that in a telephone conversation PM Netanyahu and President Trump grew tense over Trump’s announced intent to withdraw US forces from Syria. We know that Israel has been distressed by Assad’s victory. Israel can’t bear the alliance among Hezbollah, Iran, Assad, Turkey and Russia that is happening on its northern border. Israel has openly announced its refusal to allow Iran to gain momentum in Syria.

    Israel wanted to see someone, like the USA and NATO, to get involved in escalating the opposition to Assad. So it is not exactly surprising that that the three countries that were willing to provide what Israel wanted are the three countries notorious for their forceful and hawkish Jewish lobbies. In the USA, AIPAC’s domination of foreign affairs has been the subject of extensive academic research. In Britain 80% of the Tory MPs are members of the belligerent Conservative Friends of Israel and in France the CRIF (Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France) is known to be the most forceful body in the land.

    Earlier this week it seemed as if WW3 might be close. No careful observer of the Middle East could miss that Israel and its supportive pro war lobbies have been, somehow, at the centre of all of it. But now it seems that Israel and its lobbies have pushed America, Britain and France to act against their own national interests. This morning, following the recent criminal, yet futile, attack on Syria it is clear that NATO isn’t exactly a military powerhouse. It is a decaying Zionist tool. It is not ready for a war. For the time being WW3 has been postponed. I guess we can at least be grateful to Israel for that.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  379. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @CanSpeccy

    In light of the report by the Spiez Laboratory of the Swiss Federal Office for Civil Protection that the Skripals were poisoned with 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate, aka, BZ or Buzz, a recognized antimusgarinic pharmacolical agent similar in its effects to Novichok. If confirmed, this finding establishes, as I have discussed here, that the Skripal poisoning saga is a ridiculous charade written and carried out by buffoons with little relevant knowledge other than of how to so shape the lips, tongue and larynx as to emit a cloud of lies potentially culminating in a nuclear conflagration.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  380. @CanSpeccy

    It is a battle between the lame-stream media and alternate media. It’s a pity that the majority of the gullible public will grant credibility to the former while ignoring the latter.

    I appreciate your valuable contributions on this matter. It was educational.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  381. Why is Trump reneging on his promises?

  382. @anon

    In Corvinus’ case, a “cuck” button would be more appropriate.

  383. ‘Why would Assad attack civilians not military? It’s simply irrational’ – U.S. Senator

  384. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/04/14/us-uk-fomented-crisis-syria/

    It would take a complete idiot to believe that Washington and its European vassals, who have killed, maimed, orphaned, and displaced millions of Muslims in seven countries over the last 17 years to be so upset over the deaths of 70 Muslims that they are willing to risk war with Russia.

    Well we do seem to be a nation of complete idiots if the press is to be believed.

  385. @Cloak And Dagger

    Hi Cloak And Dagger

    Because I trust nothing that comes from our Jewish Corporate Media, I looked around to try & find a source that offered solid sense about what really happened yesterday as ZUS, Britain, and France hit Syrian targets with “missiles.”

    Below is an informational “Veterans Today” article, written by Jim W. Dean.

    After your perusal of Mr. Dean’s RARE data, you will likely see that Gilad Atzmon’s assessment “How Israel Postponed WW3 (inadvertently)” made practical sense.

    The scary Friday the 13th attack on Syria was… advertised, measured. Refer below?

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/14/us-syria-attack-here-are-the-missile-strike-numbers-from-the-russians/

    P.S.:
    I remain baffled as to knowing who were the operators in-control of the Syria-based A.B.M. system(s) that managed to take down an impressive number of missiles (equipped with conventional warheads) & launched by the Big 3 Brother Zionist powers. Evidently the operators had top notch Russian military job-training and prior practice.

  386. @ChuckOrloski

    Thanks for the link. I will definitely take a look later this evening.

  387. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Thanks for your encouragement. A couple of paragraphs of my last piece on the Skripal poisoning were a bit wild and woolly, though I hope that my last revision fixed the worst of the syntactical trouble.

    I think I have things more or less straight now, without having to abandon the conclusion that the Brits have failed to provide any credible evidence to back their account of the Skripal poisoning (assuming the Skripals were actually poisoned).

  388. @ChuckOrloski

    I read the link you provided as well as the main article by Gordon Duff. I tend to take VT with a grain of salt because they have been known to make bold assertions without providing any corroborating evidence, along the lines of “my spook friends told me”. OTOH, the statements in this particular article seem genuine, backed up as they are with actual video footage.

    Earlier, Lt. Gen Kenneth McKenzie said all of the missiles fired by the US and its partners landed.

    “We are confident all our missiles reached their targets,” McKenzie said.

    McKenzie added that the Syrian government responded by recklessly firing 40 missiles, none of which struck military targets or intercepted the coalition’s missiles. “The Syrian response was ineffective in all domains,”

    Claiming a 100% hit rate stretches credibility. He could have said “most”, but he didn’t. Looking at this video, it looks like at least some of the missiles were intercepted:

    It is also incomprehensible why the coalition would fire 103 missiles at just 3 targets. It is more credible that they targeted more than 3 sites and only a fraction of the total missiles made it through. I seem to recall that last year’s attack on a similar Syrian target had about 60 missiles launched with only a handful making it to anywhere near their target. In both cases, the actual damage was negligible as personnel and equipment had been evacuated in anticipation of such an attack.

    Bear that in mind when you consider that each Tomahawk missile costs $1.4 million. So, $144+ million were just wasted (not counting personnel and equipment costs) for a non-existent threat just to save face. Tuesday is April 17th, when you and I will write a large check to the IRS from our blood, sweat, and tears, to fund such charades.

    Are you as angry as I am?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  389. @Cloak And Dagger

    Cloak And Dagger asked me:
    “Are you as angry as I am?”

    Hi C & D,

    Since WW I, the reasons for my country’s going to war were based upon lies.

    Subsequently, my “trust” is lost in government liars who launched the unnecessary, immoral, and expensive wars.

    At the present hour, Matt Drudge reports that President Putin is angry now, he “seethes.”

    Frankly, instead of reacting naturally with “anger,” I take pity upon the evil perpetrators who committed the lie-based Friday the 13th attack.

    Am ashamed of the terrible lying deed, and
    I also pity fellow citizens who continue to foolishly trust PreZident Trump who is serving as Israel’s killer-Judas Goat.

    Anger tends to cloud ZUS citizen’s judgement, and I “seethe” with a passion to stay aware of the lying-liars’ OPEN works of perdition and death.

    So I make expressive comments here at the U.R. while doing so remains possible.

    Thanks for the straight-up exchange, Cloak And Dagger!

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  390. @NoseytheDuke

    I’ve also always taken that as a compliment on my manhood. ;-)

  391. @jacques sheete

    The explanation I read somewhere long ago was in response to someone having called someone “a cad and a bounder”, and it was explained that a cad couldn’t be a bounder because of the social differences between the two types.

    Funny stuff.

  392. @ChuckOrloski

    No pity from me.

    Take a look at this picture:

    This is a shot of Barzeh after a “massive” missile strike of “76″ projectiles. Does that look credible to you based on the damage? Moreover, see how close the site is to population centers? If this site housed CW, there would have been large scale deaths nearby. None of that happened. There were no CW there, and a fraction of “76″ missiles struck it (3), Lt. Gen Kenneth McKenzie’s claims notwithstanding.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  393. @Cloak And Dagger

    Hi Cloak and Dagger,

    As a life-long eastern (Byzantine) Catholic, I completely understand your taking “no pity” upon The Big 3 Western-Zionist Brothers evil action!

    (Note:Fyodor Dostoyevsky gave mankind the great “Brothers Karamazov” and merchant-Rothschild gave dumb goyim the nightmarish “Brothers Trump/Macron & Sister May.”)

    Appears President Putin has announced that Russians tracked the incoming missiles but hesitated to shoot them down. Hm.

    To my mind, it looks like (at minimum) that a temporary ZUS/Russia Non-Aggression Pact was formed with conditions & prior to the Friday the 13th’s low-casualty attack upon innocuous Syrian military sites.

    With Atlanticist Integrationist pressure bearing down upon the Putin government, I sense there is continual behind-scenes D.C./Tel Aviv – Moscow WHEELING & DEALING going on that only privileged “Deciders” get to know.

    Trump probably gets an official “tweet” on the next (approved) calamitous step(s) that he is assigned to execute!

    At any rate, C&D, thanks for posting the picture of targeted Barzeh steel (?) structures which look in much better condition than the molten & twisted ones observable on scene @ “Ground Zero,” Israel’s post-9/11 False Flag attack.

    Please look at the pressTV article below where The legendary Nusrallah gives a “Boots-on-the-Ground” account on the most recent Big Brother Zionist 3′s strike upon Syria?

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/04/15/558617/US-could-not-attain-any-goals-out-f-missile-strikes-on-Syria-Nasrallah

    Thank you. And…. Christos voskres!

  394. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    The Russian Embassy in London now acknowledges that the blood samples from the Skripals that were supplied to the OPCW contained A234 (Novichok). However, the Russians point out that those samples also contained BZ, an antidote to Novichok. Thus, what remains to be determined is whether the Novichok was used as an antidote to BZ, or the BZ was used as an antidote to Novichok. Either way round would make sense, depending on which substance was ingested first.

    However the Russians are now claiming that the blood samples from the Skripals that were supplied by the Brits to the OPCW were spiked with A234. According to the Russians, if the A234 present in those samples had been present before the blood was taken from the supposed victims of the alleged nerve agent attack, the concentration would certainly have been sufficient to cause immediate death.

    Questions that remain for the British Government include the following:

    Why did Dr. Davies, the Resident for Emergency Medicine at the Salisbury Trust Hospital, say that no one had been treated for nerve agent poisoning, a claim that is inconsistent with the blood sample analysis. At least it is inconsistent with the blood sample analyses unless BZ, a relatively non-toxic pharmacological agent not generally regarded as a nerve agent/chemical warfare agent, was what the Skripals were poisoned with?

    If as claimed by the British media, the Skripals were admitted to the Salisbury Trust Hospital with symptoms of poisoning by a Novichok-type agent, what analyses of blood and vomit were conducted on the orders of the attending physicians and with what results?

    More here: 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate: Updated

  395. Scranton Calling Brother geokat,

    I am trying to be surveillance-conscious (circumspect?) as tons of information appear on the Big 3 Zionist Brothers recent & abhorrent missile strike at Syrian targets.

    Below is a news article on Rep. Jared Huffman (D, Ca.) and his reasonable slap at Donald J. Trump’s “Stormy” legal problems and a proposition that the preZident “not being above” the conventional warmongering-method, way out impeachment trouble.

    There is substance to what he claims and I suppose Rep. Huffman is 100 percent AIPAC approved, geo. Just wanted to run this smelly matter by your research desk.

    Looks to me Huffman’s watered-down action is more Zio “divide & conquer” shit hurled at intensely divided dumb goyim supporters who are lethally aligned in opposition liberal (Democrat) and conservative (GOP) internment camps.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/383129-dem-lawmaker-trump-is-not-above-using-war-to-distract-from

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @geokat62
  396. @ChuckOrloski

    To geokat, full disclosure:

    I am horrified that all this Russiagate, Skripalgate, Assad’s possession & use of chemical weapons, are weird & purpose-driven Zio fabrications, & to include tonight’s feature of Comey’s theatrical attack upon PreZident Trump.

    I feel real bad that a probable majority of shock & awed American citizens are opposed to even consider the common sense at hand in the title to this article written by P.G.

    Good night.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @RobinG
  397. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    I suppose Rep. Huffman is 100 percent AIPAC approved

    Hey, Chuck. After conducting a quick search, I wan’t able to establish Rep. Huffman’s ethnic background (this has become increasingly difficult, for obvious reasons). As for religious affiliation, Huffman claims he is a humanist (or agnostic).

    Based on this Facebook post, however, Rep. Huffman clearly comes across as an ardent supporter of the Jewish state (admittedly, brave enough to express his reservations about the settlements):

    https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1004968012942193&id=344330745672593

    On the basis of this note, Rep. Huffman, like almost every other member of Congress today, can be said to be 100% AIPAC approved.

  398. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    I feel real bad that a probable majority of shock & awed American citizens are opposed to even consider the common sense at hand in the title to this article written by P.G.

    Is it just me or do others get the sense that Phil’s articles have opened the door for others to produce a steady stream of articles that are willing to discuss the taboo subject of Jewish power.

    And thanks to these brave authors, more and more of the American public are becoming aware of this verboten topic. This is all to the good.

    Just as this former general on Sky News was cut off from explaining why it made little sense for Assad to gas his own people, the gatekeepers are desperately trying to keep a lid on the truth getting out.

    But this is becoming a losing proposition in the age of the internet. And while today the truth may seem like a trickle, with more truth tellers willing to defy the gatekeepers, that trickle will soon become a stream, and, in a few years, the stream will become a river overflowing its banks.

    With that, I bid you a good night, Chuck.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  399. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Anti-Venom Scientist gives tour of smoldering site of missile strike in Syria

    “CBS News looked into the OPCW report from Barzeh and it noted the Syrians had delayed the visit for security concerns, but didn’t find any red flags.”

    Assessing the damage of the airstrikes in Syria

  400. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Remind you of anything?

    Taliban Offer to Detain and Try bin Laden Rejected by U.S.
    By REUTERS OCT. 7, 2001

    EMMITSBURG, Md., Oct 7 (Reuters) – The United States on Sunday rejected an offer by Afghanistan’s ruling Taliban to try Muslim militant Osama bin Laden under Islamic law, saying he must be handed over to the United States. https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/07/international/taliban-offer-to-detain-and-try-bin-laden-rejected-by-us.html

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  401. @RobinG

    Well, of course. Why remove any excuse to strike. If we had waited for the OPCW report in Syria, yet another fig leaf would drop.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  402. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Latest from Eva Bartlett:

    Caught in a lie, US & allies bomb Syria the night before international inspectors arrive https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2018/04/16/caught-in-a-lie-us-allies-bomb-syria-the-night-before-international-inspectors-arrive/

    In January 2009, Israel repeatedly fired White Phosphorous on densely-populated areas of Gaza, targeting civilians. This was widely-documented, yet Israel has never been held accountable. America and allies recently bombed Syria on unproven, zero-evidence, allegations that Syria used chemical weapons.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  403. @RobinG

    The question now is: will the regime-change alliance be stupid and cruel enough to support yet another false flag chemical attack in their unending efforts to depose the Syrian president, or will they give up the game and allow Syria’s full return to peace?

    I will bet you dollars to donuts that this is just the beginning. Trump’s entourage of neocons and the Israel lobby are not going to let this be the last word. I think Putin believes the same, and is in the process of re-arming Syria, with the possible inclusion of S-300 systems. They are also in the process of fortifying their own positions in Syria, as the next time, their bases and those of Iran will not be spared, Mattis notwithstanding. Iran and the Hezb are not sitting around smoking hookah either. The next conflagration will be bloody on both sides and a precursor to WW3 and a holocaust in Syria. Expect missiles to drop on Tel Aviv also and all the jews come scurrying back to our backyard. Where is the wall to stop them? I will take Mexicans instead of Israelis any day.

    Meanwhile, watch for Israel to take advantage of this chaos to further take it out on unarmed Palestinians under the cover of coalition fiasco. Their time of reckoning is at hand, and ours as well.

    Perhaps now, our nation will finally wake up.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  404. Z-man says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hi Chuck
    As always beware the power of the Cabal….

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  405. @Z-man

    Z-man wrote:. “Hi Chuck
    As always beware the power of the Cabal….”

    Hi Z-man,

    Above, I always do surveillance, best I can.

    Please look at the extremely important presstv interview-video with “Veterans Today” editor, Gordon Duff?

    Also I make the same plea to geokat, SolontoCroesus, Jacques Sheete, Rurik, Mark Green, annamaria, Carrol Price, RobinG, Cloak and Dagger, Art, Talha, oh hell, Philip Giraldi, Ron Unz, and anyone else honest who I might have unintentionally omitted.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/15/the-syria-attack-duff-and-scott-rickard-on-press-tv-broader-coverage-censored-in-us/

  406. @Cloak And Dagger

    Wow! That happened faster than I predicted!

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/947055/Syria-Israel-attack-explosion-airstrike-Golan-Heights-USA-UK-France-Iran-Russia

    ‘EXPLOSION’ at ISRAELI held area of Golan Heights near Syria border

    A LARGE explosion has been heard in the Israeli held area of Golan Heights near the Syrian border immediately after an airstrike hit several Syrian bases, it has been reported.
    There have been reports of a significant explosion, according to local reports.

    It comes immediately after Syrian state TV confirmed an airstrike hit had hit several bases.

    Syria state television has confirmed its air defences are repelling attacks in the country’s Homs region.

    The military announced at around 1.10am local time (11.10pm GMT) that it had fired missiles towards the Shay’rat Airbase, to the south-east of Homs, and its surrounding area in the Homs Governorate.

    Several reporters in the area claim the airstrike was carried out by Israeli fighter jets flying at high altitude after crossing the borders through Lebanon.

    There were also reports of covert airstrikes carried out by Israeli forces at Iranian bases in the Jabal Azzan region south of Aleppo last weekend.

    The Pentagon said there is “no US military activity near Homs at this time”.

    It is unclear at this time what the explosion is or if anyone was hurt.

    The recent incidents come after a coordinated attack by the US, UK and France that saw over 100 missiles launched from US ships and UK Tornado fighter-bombers.

    The strike was designed to disable the country’s use of chemical weapons after it allegedly used chlorine against rebels in Douma, eastern Ghouta on April 7.

  407. Eagle Eye says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Which of the following is your position with regard to the statement

    if I change my mind I know how to contact them

    attributed to Yulia Skripal’:

    (1) The purported statement was made in these precise words by Ms. Skripal’ in English.

    (2) The quoted words are a true, direct and correct translation of a statement made by Ms. Skripal’.

    (3) The quoted words were concocted by British “intelligence” services in English and attributed to the late Ms. Skripal’.

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  408. Eagle Eye says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    you could hardly say “change my mind” is an imagination-challenging idiom

    Interesting. So how do you say “change my mind” colloquially in Russian or in ANY continental European language?

    For that matter, how do you say “mind” (in this precise shade of meaning) in French, Russian, Finnish, German, Catalan or any other European tongue of your choice?

    And what about “change”? Easy, right? Or is it?

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  409. Eagle Eye says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    No doubt Yulia Skripal had assistance in finalising her media release. So does every professional politician on occasions both important and routine.

    Didn’t know that the late Yulia Skripal’ was a “professional politician.”

    Was Ms. Skripal’ a member of the Duma? Where was her district? Where is her homepage?

    The Great Tweeter is often a remarkable exception.

    Have you really not noticed that professional PR work product invariably includes intentional “errors” to make messages seem more “folksy”?

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  410. @Eagle Eye

    None of them precisely but 2. is close if you refer to translating the substance faitfully and accurately. But what is this trolling nonsense you are persisting with by referring to the “late Ms Skripal”? But also….

  411. @Eagle Eye

    But….. what about stopping your absurd trolling. If you really know anything of languages other than English snd maybe something of formal logic kindly discuss the translation problem to show that there is a problem with even one language in making such a translation.

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  412. Eagle Eye says:

    But what is this trolling nonsense you are persisting with by referring to the “late Ms Skripal’ ”?

    Ms. Skripal’ was found unconscious in a public park 45 days ago, on March 4, 2018, and was apparently initially hospitalized in or near Salisbury, UK. She has not been seen in public since then. Neither Yulia’s cousin Viktoria nor any other independent individual has seen her since, nor have there been any media interviews with the key person of a (supposedly) major international drama.

    Think of how many copies the red-top “Sun” could sell on the strength of “Yulia – EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW!” Months of derivative reporting could follow. (“We spoke to Yulia at an exclusive foreign hideaway arranged by the Sun …” “Has Yulia found happiness in hiding?”) No such reports have appeared.

    Even granting that the UK claims to be worried about the risk of murder by Russian agents, a more inquisitive media could easily have worked out a mutually acceptable solution to ensure that an outsider meets with Ms. Skripal’ and confirms she is still alive and kicking, without giving away details of her regular whereabouts. Of course, the UK’s establishment media has been consistently uninquisitive throughout this affair. It is almost as if they prefer to “move on.”

    When a ship sinks and and the bodies of some of the passengers cannot be found within a few days, one generally assumes that the missing individuals must have perished in the disaster.

    At what stage do we discard the polite fiction that Ms. Skripal’ is still alive?

  413. @Wizard of Oz

    Seriously Whizzy, if typed words could be converted to hot air you’d go down in history as a great power source all on your own. I wonder why it is though, that you always go to great lengths to prevaricate, to muddle, to excuse etc. Is it genetic? Do you receive payment? A source of amusement to you? Please, do tell?

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  414. Eagle Eye says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    what about stopping your absurd trolling.

    Ah, back to ad hominem, is it?

    My challenge was simple:

    So how do you say “change my mind” colloquially in Russian or in ANY continental European language?

    My thesis – since confirmed by VOJKAN – is that there is NO common, colloquial way to say “[I] change my mind” in Russian, nor in most continental European languages.

    As a matter of basic logic – which you claim to respect – ONE EXAMPLE IN ANY LANGUAGE suffices to prove this thesis wrong. Bonus points if you can give us a colloquial rendering in everyday Russian.

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  415. @NoseytheDuke

    The last time I heard the words used were by an old Harvard man in Boston qute a long time ago when he referred to Prince Philip as a cad and a bounder (at least I think it was Prince Philip in reference in some way to the fact that Prince Edward had just turned up in Boston to receive an award).

  416. @Eagle Eye

    If your intelligence level is really not up to seeing that I was in no way implying that Yilia Skripal was a professional politician it is fruitless to engage with you. The alternative seems to be that you are a vexatious, in which case I should be equally reluctant to waste my time.

  417. @Eagle Eye

    One last reply…. There doesn’t have to be a “common colloquial” way of saying it in Russian. Why shouldn’t she have sat down to draft something with great precision as if for a legal document? Unlike people idly tossing their lightweight disordered thoughts around the internet she is likely to have thought that what she said mattered.

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    , @Anon
  418. @NoseytheDuke

    “Prevaricate”? Do you know what it means? (You are probably not making the same mistake as a pretentious member of a board on which my father served who used it as if it meant “procrastinate”, confirming my father’s reservations about him, but I do think you would have trouble justifying its use).

    In fact I was just being courteously roundabout to someone whom I hoped might be capable of making something of the potentially interesting conversational material. Sadly I now see that someone, Eagle Eye, poorly educated and rather dim, has aborted any idea of that so far as he is concerned.

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  419. Eagle Eye says:
    @quasi_verbatim

    The Skripals are to be disappeared.

    Most likely, they are ALREADY DEAD.

    Reported plans to demolish entirely (1) Sergei Skripal’s residence; (2) the restaurant where they at; and (3) a pub where Sergei and Yulia happened to stop also show that we are looking at a major theatrical production by the UK government, and seem inconsistent with the supposition that Sergei Skripal’ is still alive.

    https://112.international/politics/skripal-case-ex-gru-agents-residence-pub-and-restaurant-to-be-demolished-27400.html

    Similarly, for linguistic reasons, Yulia Skripal’ COULD NOT have said what she is supposed to have said in either Russian (which simply does not use the expressions in her statement) or in English (she speaks good English but not British bureaucratese). Her alleged statement was clearly written by British bureaucrats.

    Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to an ex-Soviet republic (Uzbekistan) also notes that the language is simply inconsistent with what purports to be a statement by Yulia:

    To put it plainly, as someone who has much experience of it, the English of the statement is precisely the English of an official in the UK security services and precisely not the English of somebody like Yulia Skripal or of a natural translation from Russian.

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/04/yulia-skripal-is-plainly-under-duress/comment-page-8/#comments

    The Russian embassy to the UK notes an interesting contradiction in the statement attributed to Yulia:

    Particularly amazing is the phrase “no one speaks for me” appearing in a statement which, instead of being read on camera by Yulia herself, is published at Scotland Yard [sic] website.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/new-developments-in-the-skripal-drama-police-statement-opcw-report-release.html#more (emphasis added)

  420. Eagle Eye says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    There doesn’t have to be a “common colloquial” way of saying ["If I change my mind ..."] in Russian.

    Actually, there would need to be a way of saying this in normal Russian for the statement – released by the Metropolitan Police – to be a true translation of what Yulia herself said.

    This proves that Yulia could not have said what the Met claims she said. If follows that the statement could not have come from her. Yulia is most likely dead, murdered by British security services.

    Nor could she have made the statement in English – she spoke decent English, but not high-level bureaucratese, as an actual British bureaucrat (ex-ambassador) confirms:

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/04/yulia-skripal-is-plainly-under-duress/comment-page-8/#comments

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  421. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Why shouldn’t she have sat down to draft something with great precision as if for a legal document?

    Because she’s supposedly in such dire straits that she is quite inaccessible otherwise. And the statement does not seem all that precise anyway, and approaches absurdity by claiming “no one speaks for me”. Given prior history and the cartoonish conduct of the investigation so far it seems not unlikely that her input into the document was minimal.

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  422. @Eagle Eye

    Leave it to Craig Murray. He makes sense and a good argument. You don’t. Indeed an index of your problems is that you call him an “actual bureaucrat” which he is not. You yourself pointed out that he was a *former* ambassador, i.e. not an “actual” one.

  423. @Anon

    Yes, but my point was that Eagle Eye is so careless or unskilled that his arguments are too sloppy to waste time on. Indeed, though not because she is too ill to do it, it is unlikely that Yulia Skripal sat down to make a careful draft.

    I have had experience in various ways of hundreds+ media releases and more and less formal statements of position so could give at least a dozen scenarios for the preparation of her statement.

    One would be “It might be a good time for you to make a statement now you are on the mend and if you are happy with that idea I could get one of our press secretaries to run up a draft if that suits you”. “A draft?” “Oh, yes, it will/would be your statement so of course he’ll run it by you for your approval”.

    Then ” I have assumed from what you told X that you don’t want the embassy to get in touch but you might like to check that I haven’t made you sound too hostile….”. Etc. etc.

    None of that means that I withdraw my comment that Craig Murray, by contrast to Eagle Eye, makes a credible argument. But of course it wasn’t just Yulia Skripal’s original verbatim formulation unedited! So what?

  424. Eagle Eye says:

    Gizzard’s climb-down:

    I could get one of our press secretaries to run up a draft if that suits you

    Gizzard is now conceding what Vojkan and I have been saying all along – the alleged personal statement could not be Yulia’s own words. This raises the question whether she is still alive.

    Vojkan’s original observation:

    Don’t know why but I’m having a hard time believing the formulation is just hers. As if the Brits wanted that no one believed them.

    Gizzard’s earlier “argument”:

    you could hardly say “change my mind” is an imagination-challenging idiom like, say, “pay the piper” or that the “I know how to contact them” has the flavour of idiom like “I know where you live” in some contexts.

    Vojkan’s knowledgeable refutation:

    There is no way a native Russian speaker would have concocted that statement and there is no way that could be a literal translation of a statement Yulia Skripal made without “assistance”. It is just too pretentious English to be true.

    Randal’s question to Gizzard:

    Why do you feel a need to defend the establishment narrative on this supposed incident? Frankly, having looked into it pretty closely, I maintain the position that there are no credible arguments in support of it, and only ignorance can excuse defending it.

  425. Eagle Eye says:
    @Randal

    Why do you feel a need to defend the establishment narrative on this supposed incident? Frankly, having looked into it pretty closely, I maintain the position that there are no credible arguments in support of it, and only ignorance can excuse defending it.

    Good point. See summary response above.

  426. @Wizard of Oz

    Prevaricate
    [pri-var-i-keyt]
    Spell Syllables
    Synonyms Examples Word Origin
    See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
    verb (used without object), prevaricated, prevaricating.
    1. to speak falsely or misleadingly; deliberately misstate or create an incorrect impression; lie.

    Does Jeepers also have an opinion on what the meaning of this is?

  427. @Santoculto

    Anyone who believes or uses The Daily Mail.co. uk as a credible source is off their rocker.

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