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The White House keeps insisting that it will not directly involve American soldiers in the war in Ukraine, but it keeps taking steps that will inevitably lead to a large-scale open combat role for the US against Russia. Among the most recent moves to increase the pressure on the Kremlin, Biden revealed at a NATO summit meeting in Madrid on June 29th that the US will establish a permanent headquarters in Poland for the Fifth Army Corps, maintain an additional rotational brigade of thousands of troops in Romania and bolster other deployments in the Baltic states. Also, the number of US troops in Europe, currently approaching 100,000, will be increased. Biden also was pleased to learn that Turkey had been enticed to drop its objection to Finland and Sweden joining NATO.

On the way to the NATO summit aboard Air Force One, Biden’s National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan advised that “By the end of the summit what you will see is a more robust, more effective, more combat credible, more capable and more determined force posture to take account of a more acute and aggravated Russian threat.” Presumably Sullivan was reading from a prepared script, but the objective surely seemed to be to heighten tension with Moscow rather than attempt to reduce it and come to some kind of diplomatic settlement.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg also did his bit. In an astonishing display of derriere kissing, he responded that the new US force posture commitments were demonstrative of Biden’s strong leadership. What Stoltenberg did not mention was that Biden has been lying for some time about the presence of US military personnel in Ukraine. He let the cat out of the bag back in March, when he told troops belonging to the 82nd Airborne division in Poland that they would soon be going to Ukraine, observing that “You’re going to see when you’re there, and some of you have been there, you’re gonna see —” It was an admission that US forces are already in place inside Ukraine even though the White House quickly did damage control, asserting that the president continues to be opposed to American soldiers being directly engaged in the fighting. Biden also claimed that the US was working to “keep the massacre [of Ukrainians] from continuing.” Again, the language was hardly designed to make some room for a possible accommodation with Russia to negotiate an end to the fighting.

And now there is a New York Times report entitled “Commando Network Coordinates Flow of Weapons in Ukraine, Officials Say: A secretive operation involving US Special Operations forces hints at the scale of the effort to assist Ukraine’s still outgunned military.”

The article describes a more active US role in Ukraine than the Biden Administration has been willing to admit publicly. Back in February, before intervened in Ukraine, the US reportedly withdrew its own 150 military instructors, many of whom were training Ukrainian soldiers on newly acquired American produced weapons. However, some Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) paramilitary operatives and special ops troops continued their service in the country secretly, directing most of the intelligence flow the US is sharing with Ukrainian forces. In addition to that, special ops soldiers from Washington’s NATO allies have been managing the movement of weapons and equipment into Ukraine and providing some specialized training. It has also been reported that British SAS commandos are actually guarding President Volodymyr Zelensky. The NYT specifies, citing American and other Western officials, that the soldiers and CIA officers are currently not on the front lines with Ukrainian troops. Also according to the Times, even though the US and NATO member states have not acknowledged the presence of their paramilitaries soldiers in operational roles in Ukraine, Russia and other intelligence services around the world are aware of this.

The New York Times report appears to be generally correct, though it does omit some details, some of which I have been hearing from former colleagues in the intelligence services. There has been considerable overt training at the Grafenwoehr German army base as well as at the Ramstein US Air Base to familiarize the Ukrainians with the new weapons arriving. Other NATO countries are also participating in the training. Meanwhile, the cadres of special operations soldiers and intelligence personnel operating primarily in western Ukraine are not in uniform and many of them are working under various contrived cover designations, including sometimes loose affiliations with foreign embassies and NGOs. There are also a conventional CIA Station, a group from the National Security Agency and a Military Attache’s office in the recently reopened US Embassy in Kiev.

All of the above means that Biden and other western leaders have been dissimulating regarding their active participation in the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Apart from his possible gaffe, Biden will not admit that there are American boots already on the ground, but they are there and are playing a major role in both logistics and intelligence sharing. The potential downside for the president could come when some of these soldiers in mufti get killed or, worse, captured and start to talk about their role.

Retired US Air Force Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, a former analyst for the US Department of Defense, observes that deploying plausibly deniable non-uniformed personnel “is completely typical of the initial stages of a US-backed long war, and for long-term political manipulation of the target country. This is the future that neoconservative ‘strategists’ in DC and their British and European allies imagine for Ukraine. Rather than a negotiated conclusion, with a new Ukrainian role as a neutral and productive country, independent of both Russian and US political influences, the US government and CIA see Ukraine as an expendable yet useful satrap in its competition with the Russian Federation.”

Former CIA analyst Larry Johnson sees the activity in stark terms, while also commenting that the CIA has not won a semi-clandestine insurgent war in forty years. He observes that “Ukraine is a proxy; the West is trying to destroy Russia, it’s that simple. It would be one thing if Russia was the most evil, oppressive, authoritarian regime in the world. It’s nowhere even close. Even though the West keeps trying to portray Russia as such. The fact of the matter is, the West wants the resources that Russia has and it wants to control Russia. [But] Russia is not about to be controlled.”

In other words, Washington might be seeking an unending war entangling Russia and limiting its options globally. The Biden Administration has staked its reputation and possible political future on enabling Ukraine to survive without succumbing to Russian territorial demands. It is a risky and even dangerous policy, both in practical terms and politically. The persistence of the Ukrainians in their defense is largely a product of US and Western Europe guarantees that they will do all that is necessary to support Zelensky and his regime, which is already seeking \$750 billion in aid for “reconstruction.” If western military casualties begin to surface, the political support for the Ukraine war will begin to fade in Washington and elsewhere and there will be consequences in the upcoming midterm US elections in November.

A final comment on the Times piece is in response to the question why it has appeared at all at the present time. The mainstream media has been a cheerleader for aggressive US support of Ukraine and Zelensky, but now it is beginning to step back from that position, as have also the Washington Post and other media outlets. Perhaps they are becoming convinced that the game plan being promoted by Washington and its European allies is unlikely to succeed at great cost to the respective economies. Larry Johnson puts it this way: “I think the purpose of this article coming out now is just to lay the groundwork for why we can’t put or shouldn’t put any more US military personnel or even CIA personnel inside Ukraine because continuing to put US personnel…inside Ukraine to train is becoming too risky because of Russia’s success on the battlefield.” One might also add that it is exceptionally dangerous. A misstep or even a deliberate false flag coming from either side could easily make the war go nuclear.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected].

 
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  1. Retired US Air Force Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, a former analyst for the US Department of Defense, observes that deploying plausibly deniable non-uniformed personnel “is completely typical of the initial stages of a US-backed long war, and for long-term political manipulation of the target country.

    Mil-bloggers I read suggest that if the US allows Ukraine to attack the Kerch Bridge, those “non-uniformed personnel” may come under precision rocket fire.

    Biden is a total disaster, and I’m very glad I didn’t “vote” for the man.

    (my part of Indiana uses computer touchscreen voting, and I’m pretending to “vote” while definitely locking myself in the candidate’s corner)

  2. There was an entire US Army armored brigade close to the Ukrainian border when Russia’s counterattack began in February.

    https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2022-02-25/fort-riley-1abct-tour-extended-in-europe-5145877.html

    The US military established permanent bases in Poland years ago.

    • Agree: Jim Christian, Alfred
    • Thanks: Z-man
  3. IronForge says:

    Kharkov, Nikolayev, Kherson, Odessa, and Others who’d want to join “NovoRussia” are going to. Staying with Zelenskyy just became a ClusterFail as the Pro-Russian+Industrial Regions are Leaving Kiev.

    Biden sounds like he’s going to send in the 82nd into Kiev-Lvov along with POL to Secure/Assimilate Kiev-Lvov as Zelenskyy is Protected/Evacuated.

    Tough Call, since RUS are already making Aerial Attacks over Kiev-Lvov right up to the POL Border and NATO have been warned. Mercs+CIA_ParaTroopers are getting Slain and are Leaving.

    The Tribals+Washington still believe that this can be contained within UKR’s Old Borders…

    Can’t call Article 5 if NATO Attack Crimea or march into UKR…

  4. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    Kiev’s military has long been fully integrated into NATO. Simply check out the wiki page of any Kiev combat brigade – you‘ll see plenty of Tours to various NATO overseas actions.

    It’s a fair estimate that NATO officers are in command of Kiev‘s military. And it’s indeed a reasonable estimate that tens of thousands of NATO military, consultants, specialists, trainers, etc.etc. are operating inside Ukraine today.

    • Agree: Decoy, inspector general
    • Thanks: showmethereal
  5. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    …. close to the Ukrainian border when Russia’s counterattack began in February…..

    Nice way of framing the topic – mind if I use it ?

  6. Charles says:

    If Mr. Giraldi is correct that the US seeks, for all practical purposes, a never-ending war, then P.C. Roberts is also correct – Russia should attack with overwhelming force as is most feasible. If the countries of the West were led by men of principle and a type of (misplaced) courage, Russia would be taking a risk; but the West’s political puppets are completely corrupt. A “total war” mentality by the Russians would end this farce.

  7. Briggs says:

    America is the most anti white force to exist in all of world history.

    The American government has replaced a population of over 150 million whits people and made them the minority in the span of 1-2 generations. Such a scale of genocide is unheard of in history.

    It is the US that exerted its power in the 70s to force the Turkish immigrants into Germany (which the Germans didn’t want). It is the US that used its power to “diversify” all of Western Europe (and is now trying to do the same in Eastern Europe). It is the US that pushes niggers, the most subhuman monkey race on earth, on everyone like a fucking religion. Americans literally worship niggers and are now exporting their religion of globohomo niggerism to the whole world. American culture is centered around niggers. America has special forces hit squads stationed in Germany (one literally right next to Strasbourg/EU parliament) and Europe to kill any EU politician who doesn’t obey them. The US has been caught in leaked papers from Wikileaks “brainwashing Estonians on the benefits of diversity”. Literally manipulating a small, irrelevant white Baltic country with only 1 million people to take in niggers and other shitskins. Imagine what they do to the rest of Europe.

    America wants Ukraine solely so they can flood it with more niggers and other shitskin filth.

    If the White race is to have ANY hope of survival, America (The Jewish Empire of Satan) must collapse. And the EU.

    Fuck America. It’s an unlivable shithole for White people. 60 million violent low IQ impulsive niggers with guns. Life in America is literally hide and seek and constantly running away from niggers and other shitskins. America has a total jewish bolshevik government that worships satan. Insane amounts of spics. I’ve traveled all around Europe and even fucking France and Sweden are much whiter and more livable then America. I’ll be leaving America for good this year. Thank you God.

    America Delenda Est.

  8. Jon Chance says: • Website

    My father (Don Peretz of the CFR) married a Polish-Israeli terrorist (Maya Peretz) in 1979.

    Maya’s son (Ervin Peretz) is also a terrorist for ISIS (Israeli Secret Intelligence Service). His son (Jonah Peretz) is, like Ervin, imbedded at the Google Monopoly Corporation.

    Since the so-called “US government” does nothing to prevent private monopolies, political censorship, and global Jewish terrorism, I suggest the Russia Federation solve this problem.

    • Thanks: Justrambling, Alfred
  9. Briggs says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    >The US military established military bases in Poland

    I heard from a friend in the Air Force that niggers intentionally try to get stationed in Europe because of the naïve white girls. Revolting.

    Imagine being some Slav living in a nice, peaceful, homogenous nice European country and all of a sudden a bunch of 88 IQ niggers and brown mexicans suddenly occupy your country. LOL. What a fucking joke.

    • Replies: @IronForge
    , @Charles
  10. JimDandy says:

    Do Neocons have children? Do Neocons love their children?

  11. I allowed myself to see in a quick read inspired by the headlinearry C.Johnson quoted as if he hadn’t long since discredited himself. Even RU seems to accept that but, PG , your failure to acknowledge what is at stake is more depressing. If a superpower that civilised educated products of modern civilisation might, because of its imperfections, idiocies and injustices rate at only 5 out of 10 fas a post Enlightenment liberal democratic rule-of-law state is knocked out of the ring by a pretender to superpower status that one would struggle to give more than 1 out of 10 on the same scale (and that 1 largely because emigration is not impossible) then the world will be a dangerous place, especially for all US non nuclear allies and friends. Yes, the US can go on repopulating itself with immigrants of unforeseeable merit (enhanced by RU’s great achievement) and probably be impervious to China’s hostility – even if a few carriers are sunk in attempts to defend Taiwan – but Australia had better consider the option of Finlandisation by China and the future for India and Pakistan will loom particularly high as frightening unpredictables.

    At bottom you seem to think Americans generally, who have been betrayed by their elites for decades, at least as reflected in the quality of middle class life and prospects, will somehow be put on a better course. I’m not at all clear why.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  12. @Carlton Meyer

    Forgive me if I miss your point. NaTO is not, and could not be about conquest. If you are referring to the supposedly “existential” threat it is only because the existence of successful non authoritarian states on Russia’s borders is a threat to its ruling clique by its example.

    • LOL: WHAT
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  13. Biff says:

    The Neo-cons have installed so many trip wires for their own minions in government that is going to backfire in their face, and then they’ll be left with a decision to either go all in or suffer a humiliating defeat.

    Then consider the Neo-cons have never had to pay any kind of a price for their failures, fuckups, and piles of bodies left behind – will they be in such denial that they will sacrifice themselves along with the rest of humanity?

    Considering who is in charge I would prepare for the worst.

  14. Miro23 says:

    One might also add that it is exceptionally dangerous. A misstep or even a deliberate false flag coming from either side could easily make the war go nuclear.

    That has to be true. The US neo-con Jews (led by Kagan/Nuland) are gambling and have put the US and it’s colonies on the table. And, it’s not at all intelligent to play this game.

    In contrast to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan etc. Russia can entirely destroy the NATO alliance (the Jewish run West) such that no major cities remain. What would the US be like without New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, Philadelphia and the rest + its whole military infrastructure gone?

    One way or another the US would lose most of its urban population (83%) and many of the rest, plus all its supply chains, leaving maybe 50 million people alive but living in extreme difficulty ( but still a 20x greater number than the US population at Independence 2.5 million). My guess is that the population would quickly reduce further through lack of basic needs (eg medicine, food, fuel) leaving maybe 5 million. IOW about the same population as New Zealand.

    That would be a population reduction of 98.5% (330 million down to 5 million over several years) plus the loss of the country. Untouched Mexico with its 130 million would still be there to take the land when the radiation subsided.

    • Replies: @tiger_road
    , @Bro43rd
  15. Hitch says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Eisenhower, the Swedish Jew, personifies the lies that build the foundation of the empire of lies. Of course everything that the narrative claims happened in WWII and the Cold War, are lies. “Nato is a defensive alliance” is just one more of a never ending stream of Judeo-Masonic lies emanating from this Empire of Lies.

    Eisenhower was a “made man”, selected to run the US army for his submissiveness to the demands and strategy of his Rothschild overlords. After sitting over the creation of Nato and the US MIC, he was made famous by the Jewmas media for having “warned” the US sheeple about the monster he had created.

    It is somehow ironic that now Eisenhower’s homeland, Sweden, is willingly joining this Empire, along with Finland. As soon as Finland officially enters Nato, assuming Erdogan allows it to exit the non-neutral purgatory that she is now in, we can be certain that Nato will be building bases and radar stations all along the Russian border. This is why I cannot understand why we keep hearing from the media that Lavrov and Putin “don’t mind” if Finland and Sweden join Nato.

    • Replies: @frankie p
  16. If I could learn that American soldiers and mercenaries are in the Ukraine, Putin is certainly aware of it. Yet he never stated it anywhere, nor seems to care. Probably because acknowledging American presence in the Ukraine will require Russia to react to it, and it may lead to direct war, which is certain to end in nuclear attacks on both sides, and Putin does not want it; therefore I surmise Putin is reluctant to use the nuclear option.

    But this reluctance will be taken for weakness by the American warmongers, and they will only escalate their activities; their increased stupidity will certainly lead to a nuclear war finally.

  17. King Dollar won’t be around for anything “long term”. If the WEF does not know that they are a ship of fools.

  18. Ghali says:

    Russia should drop few A Bobs on the U.S. mainland and stops its global violence that is causing and has caused the death of millions of innocent human lives.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  19. RobinG says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Alastair Crooke looks towards ‘unsticking’ the West:

    “Catharsis can be defined as the process of releasing, and thereby providing relief from, strong or repressed, emotions attached to beliefs. To avoid military catharsis, it seems that the Russian and Chinese leadership – understanding the flaws to the western economic model – must then visit the West with an economic catharsis.”

    Reading the Runes of War
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/07/18/reading-the-runes-of-war/

  20. Hitch says:

    It has also been reported that British SAS commandos are actually guarding President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    In a message written by a “mercenary” fighting in Azovstal it was written that a SAS sniper had been killed by “friendly” Ukrainian fire because of the total chaos and unprofessionalism of the Galician army.

    One of the big lies of the last 50 years is that these mercenaries and Special Operations Forces are somehow worthy of honor. Let us face it, they are sadistic, perverted scum who enjoy the thrill of murdering human beings. Stupid idiot Americans and Brits have become so brain damaged that they actually believe that this scum are heroes and who should constantly be “thanked for their service”.

    The reality beyond the lie is that these Special Operations forces have discredited the honor of ordinary people who willingly make major sacrifices for the wellbeing of their neighbors and fellow countrymen.

    Today’s US army is worthy of nothing but scorn. They are not fighting for “freedom” or “democracy”. They are merely stupid idiots serving globohomo, the Jewmas order, and Molloch.

    Crack unit of elite ex-SAS soldiers ‘kills up to 20 Russian generals in Ukraine’ as they vow to fight to the death

    The 12-strong crack unit have spent six long weeks targeting powerful Kremlin officers during the war in Ukraine.

    From Gab:

    It’s become common knowledge that when you lie, it triggers an uncomfortable sensation in the brain. But as someone habituates lying, that sensation diminishes.

    A significant portion of America and the rest of the West have collectively grown comfortable with lies. They are entirely desensitized to it. Lying to themselves. Lying to each other. Telling fat people they are healthy and aesthetically pleasing. Telling “trans” people they are anything less than abominations. Pretending black people are not only not impulsive and violent, but that they are in fact the glue that keeps our society from crumbling.

    It’s become noble to lie. To collectively indulge a lie when you know it’s bullshit, when your audience- everyone in the room- knows it’s bullshit, and when everyone knows that everyone else also knows that it’s bullshit.

    Pathological lying and a rejection of visceral disgust. When you concede honesty and truth as imperatives for a society, you don’t have a society. Just non-sensical chaos.

    • Replies: @mikey
  21. RobinG says:

    By a Russian living in Kharkov…

    Nuances of the Special Operation’s First Days & Notes From Kharkov
    https://www.stalkerzone.org/nuances-of-the-special-operations-first-days-notes-from-kharkov/

    “… many times I heard a quiet and calm: “We are waiting”, “I can’t wait until…”. If anyone laments, then it’s about the destruction of Kharkov, but being at the same time pro-Russia.”

  22. It’s pretty obvious the ruling jewish power structure in the West, particularly in America, is losing control, and are increasingly seeing a world war as their only way out of the jam they’re in. The euphemisms for powerful Jews – neocon, globalist, rootless cosmopolitan, groomer – are in the common vernacular more and more every day, with the left accusing those who use such terms of anti-semktism and the right insisting that nothing could be farther from the truth. The economy is on the verge of total collapse, dollar hegemony is over, the military can’t attract the poorest and most desperate members of our society, racial tensions are exploding, and these filthy subversive anti-Christ kikes are behind it all, and they are desperate to rope the goyim into another brother war.

    The problem is, whitey doesn’t seem to want to play, and indeed every day more and more of us awaken to the Jewish menace. Who will come to their rescue when we decide to holocaust them for real this time? Too bad they treat men like Ron Unz as pariahs, we could have talked this out like adults. Soon it will be too late.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  23. The way that the newly elected Australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, was immediately whisked off for a visit to the Ukraine – before doing anything for his own country – indicates an agenda for war. He would have been there for some direct negotiations/demands. Australians are always pulled into those sorts of imperialistic conflicts – Afghanistan, Iraq – cannon fodder in foreign lands.

    • Thanks: showmethereal
    • Replies: @emerging majority
  24. There’s nothing more salivating for the current order of One World Government than having Russia launch a Satan II inside Ukraine and declare it (((Holocaust 2.0))).
    (((They))) will blame Russia (White Supremacists) for the destruction of planet earth as we know it.
    You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see the pathetic level by which these despicable monsters think.
    The future of humanity in now in the hands of the most evil tyrants that ever existed.

    Gather your survival necessities, you’re going to need them.

    The Coming Gloom is Upon Us.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  25. A whole article about nothingness – It’s not as if this is a new phenomenon but is almost 3 decades old – For once, I would like to see an article about what Russia is doing to counter this – Does anyone believe that the SVR along with GRU and it’s spec ops are remaining static while nato run around like an headless chicken advertising every small move they make? Am sure the losses that the national security complex of the Western Hemisphere has suffered and continue to suffer is what makes them so vengeful and angry with Russia which would mean that they are devastatingly high, kind of like what NVA and Vietcong did in Vietnam – Plus Russian destabilizing ops in the American mainland isn’t being spoken about as much as Chinese ones but everyone knows that SVR/KGB are masters of playing the long game for decades , better than MSS – And FBI isn’t really that good at counterintelligence as they would like others to believe

  26. Hitch says:

    The Nato war against Russia currently being conducted in Ukraine is in reality also a war against Europeans and European culture. Nato is not only masonic, it is satanic.

    One of the reasons that the USA, and Nato have been able to start and conduct dozens of wars and colored revolutions across the planet, yet still remain in the eyes of the rabble a “defensive alliance” that is fighting for “freedom” and “democracy”, is that the masses have been dumbed down.

    The media and Hollywood bear much responsibility for this, but there has been an concerted to make people stupid. The bioweapon Covid and the ensuing “vaccine” dropped IQ’s significantly. No one knows for sure what they have been components have been in the atmospheric sprays that have been unleashed on humanity for decades, but aluminum and lithium are two components.

    Fluoride has been added to water supplies all over the planet. Until recently I was unaware that it has also been added to bottled water, which is usually sold in plastic containers that are also polluting peoples brains.

    • Agree: emerging majority
  27. Tundra says:

    European countries have been fighting each other incessantly for, I don’t know, 1500 years now. Yet we have not just leftist warmongers but alleged libertarians and conservatives bellowing for America to get involved again. How do the latter two groups square their beliefs in limited government, liberty, and the Constitution with non-stop war? And what is it about Russia that has these dimwits so furiously up in arms?

  28. Franz says:

    The White House keeps insisting that it will not directly involve American soldiers in the war in Ukraine

    That lie had its 100th birthday about 5 years ago.

    Woodrow Wilson: “He kept us out of war.”

    Franklin Roosevelt: “We will not fight in Europe a second time in this century.”

    Lyndon Johnson: “American boys will not fight Asian boys in Vietnam.”

    They say the same-old then do what they want.

    If they really wanted peace with Russia, they would have helped Trump do just that. We saw what they did: Considered the Trump presidency an attack by Russians on America.

  29. [Former CIA analyst Larry Johnson] observes that “Ukraine is a proxy; the West is trying to destroy Russia, it’s that simple. It would be one thing if Russia was the most evil, oppressive, authoritarian regime in the world. It’s nowhere even close. Even though the West keeps trying to portray Russia as such. The fact of the matter is, the West wants the resources that Russia has and it wants to control Russia.

    This undisclosed fact is key. The actual interests of the American people have little to do with this very dangerous, highly unnecessary (((globalist))) war on Russia’s border. Everyday Americans have no stake in the outcome of this regional dispute.

    Zio-Washington on the other hand wants to breakup/dismember Russia as they did with Iraq and Libya. If achieved, this objective will not only empower numerous, unnamed predators like the ones which looted Russia during the Yeltsin era, but a weakened Russia also means that the defensive axis between Russia, Syria, and Iran will be diminished. This is precisely what Israel wants.

    The dismantling of Russia (and possible regime change there) also satisfies the longstanding quest for revenge against Russia that’s close to the heart of many highly-placed Zionist warmongers in Washington such as Undersecretary of State, Victoria Nuland, and her neocon husband, Robert Kagan. Once again, we are witnessing a Jewish-orchestrated war being run out of Washington, done in the name of ‘democracy’, for the benefit of Israel.

    Whether the millions of clueless, conformist normies in America ever figure this out is anyone’s guess.

  30. “If western military casualties begin to surface… there will be consequences in the upcoming midterm US elections in November.”

    Sounds like greasing a few Americans could mean Russia finally meddled in a US election.

  31. Another great article by Mr. Giraldi. Several years ago retired US Army major general Bob Scales said that Russians needed to be “sent home in body bags”. Can’t remember whether that regarded Syria or Ukraine. In any case, I’d say the same applies to American soldiers in Ukraine. I also thought this short article by Paul Craig Roberts was spot on –

    https://www.unz.com/proberts/when-we-are-at-war-with-russia-what-will-we-be-fighting-for/

    • Replies: @annamaria
  32. @Carlton Meyer

    The Poolacken are not satisfied with the current level of mutt deployment to Europe. They are asking to get all the mutt mercenaries from Germany to station in Pooland instead.

    I sincerely ask everyone how to make this a reality!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  33. Mr. Hack says:

    Nothing but worry about US involvement in Ukraine. Nothing at all mentioned about Russia’s ability to do anything other than shell civilian enclaves. Russia’s appeasers are way to one sided in the assessment of this war and who is ultimately most responsible for its end or continuation. Biden never put a gun to Putler’s head and forced him to cross Ukraine’s borders and foment this tragic and stupid war.

  34. Sgt Rock says:

    Not realistic to operate inside the Ukraine, defenses are inadequate against missiles. The whole endeavor is ill advised, except as a lessons learned primer. This being written in Ukrainian losses. Suspect the defense contractors will be displacing Pharma at the government teat. Too bad the military is phasing out actual fighters and competent NCOs. NATO is a nothing but a rainbow 🌈 tiger at this point

  35. A substantial number of American military personnel along with Ukranazi coup regime officers were denazified in Vinnitsa the other day. Possibly several hundred.

    • Replies: @Jim H
    , @Buck Ransom
  36. Anon[271] • Disclaimer says:

    Surprised that more people on the left aren’t beginning to question our financial commitment to this war.

  37. JWalters says:
    @Zachary Smith

    “Biden is a total disaster”

    Biden may be a planned disaster. This looks a lot like when Woodrow Wilson promised that no American troops would be sent into WWI, and then the Zionist “advisors” surrounding Wilson steered (blackmailed) him into sending troops.

    The following quotes are from Chapter 30 of The Controvery of Zion, the classic in-depth study by renowned WWII reporter for the London Times, Douglas Reed.

    “The [Zionist] conspiracy had to gain control of the governments involved so that their acts of State policy, and in consequence their military operations, might be diverted to serve the ends of the conspiracy, not national interests. The American president was already (i.e., from 1912) the captive of secret ‘advisers,’ as has been shown; and if Mr. House’s depictment of him (alike in the anonymous novel and the acknowledged Private Papers) is correct, he fits the picture given in the earlier Protocols, ‘… we replaced the ruler by a caricature of a president, taken from the mob, from the midst of our puppet creatures, our slaves.‘”

    The British government had likewise been captured.

    “No clash of arms during the 1914-1918 war produced an effect on the future comparable with that brought about by the capture of the British Government in 1916.”
    ….
    “These effects continued to dominate events between the wars and during the Second World War, and in 1956 may be seen to form the most probable cause of any third ‘universal war.‘”

    Chapter 30 The Decisive Battle in
    The Controvery of Zion
    http://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/Controversybook_eng_30.htm

    • Agree: inspector general
    • Thanks: frankie p, Agentinslacks
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Bill Jones
  38. The Jewish cabal running the USA is playing a game of chicken. The Russians aren’t playing. If they need to escalate, they will escalate. As Putin said and contrary to what Western “military experts” and globohomo appointed generals peddle, the West has seen nothing yet. Americans should come to senses or this will end very, very badly.

  39. Biding says:

    What Germany and Russia had been aiming for was a return to what they had in the good old days, i.e. when Bismarck was in charge. Good old German-Russian imperial friendship at the cost of Poland and all the other smaller countries of Eastern Europe. In other words, a German-Russian Condominium. That had been Putin’s offer to Germany all along and Merkel wholeheartedly accepted it by building gas pipelines together with Russia on the bed of the Baltic Sea. Fortunately, these plans can be foiled by accelerating the process of bolstering Eastern-European integration at the cost of the neo-imperial interests of Germany and Russia.

    Britain and America now see that the best way to counter Merkel and Putin’s joint scheme to set up a German-Russian Condominium is to make a future united Eastern Europe “great again”. And that’s *exactly* why Putin has now invaded the Ukraine. Last year’s demonstrations in Belarus sounded all the alarm bells in his evil imperial mind. A strong and united Eastern Europe — a resurrection of the old Polish Commonwealth in some new form — is Germany’s and Russia’s worst nightmare.

    The Ukrainians are now doing what the Poles did in 1920 during the Polish-Soviet War, when relatively few Ukrainians were willing to fight the Red Army. Without the Ukrainian “brother nation” under its thumb, the Russian Empire’s days are numbered. Unfortunately for Putin, the Chinese general staff are watching all this.

    No doubt the Chinese will soon be claiming that they have a duty to protect all Asians living under Russian rule. Putin’s making exactly the same mistake as Stalin. Just as Hitler’s eyes were firmly fixed on Russia and especially the fertile lands of the Ukraine — the German equivalent of Britain’s India, as he used to say in his private conversations — the eyes of today’s Chinese leaders are also firmly fixed on all that Lebensraum which is temporarily owned by a mere handful of Russians. The conclusion to be drawn is obvious.

    • Troll: A B Coreopsis
  40. Petermx says:

    ‘Biden also claimed that the US was working to “keep the massacre [of Ukrainians] from continuing.” ‘ Americans are always among the biggest liars in the world. I am in Estonia and every day a bus runs from Tallinn to Kiev for civilians (not military, yet). This is happening in the middle of a so called war. The Libyans, Iraqis, Syrians and Afghans would have wished they had it so good and that their people were not murdered by Americans for the Jews. The cowards in Europe don’t point that out though.

  41. roonaldo says:

    Zelensky just dumped his FBS chief, reportedly due to security personnel across the country cooperating with Russia. And now, it seems, he can’t trust Ukrainians for his personal protection and has the SAS take over that task. Western operatives would be behind these developments.

    The average Ukrainian conscript isn’t going to be enthused with putting his life on the line for Zelensky’s regime. Ukrainians in Seversk are opting to stay rather than evacuate to the west as authorities demand, and who can blame them for staying?

    Imagine Zelensky’s paranoia as rumors of military coup plots proliferate. As the charade of legitimacy unravels, will the West attempt its own desperate coup, declare a new regime, and supply troops and materiel? Only a fool would attempt such madness, which is why the neolibcons in Washington no doubt will seriously consider it.

  42. These things happen when the way to achieve “democratic” political merits and good business is to kill.

  43. Remember when 85% of Americans were against going to war in Syria?
    Obama did it anyway starting with “contractors.”

  44. @HateSpeechEnjoyer

    It was easier to rope people into new wars when information wasn’t readily available, and there was only one (or but a few) narrative in town. But the rise of the www helped to change all that.

    While risking life and limb for mom, home and apple pie is hard enough, only psychpaths want to put their health and futures on the line for a country such as the US, now run by criminals and dirt bags for the benefit of wealthy and powerful special interests.

    • Agree: Swaytonious
  45. @mark green

    My knowledge of economics is spotty. I am under the impression that the west is now economically overextended and wants to get its hands on Russian resources.

    So, would getting hands on Russian resources prop up the dollar? It seems sale of resources in roubles would give the greenback a hard kick in its groin.

    It looks like the west has had it in for Putin since he put the kibosh on the looting of Russia by “western” oligarchs, and that what western leaders want above anything else is to loot Russia.
    It seems increasingly that western powers are burglars, in fact, and are angry at Putin and tge Russians for not letting them steal their property.

    Any insight anyone can offer would be appreciated.

    • Replies: @JM
    , @EugeneGur
    , @Harold Smith
  46. lavoisier says: • Website
    @mark green

    but a weakened Russia also means that the defensive axis between Russia, Syria, and Iran will be diminished. This is precisely what Israel wants.

    Exactly. And this is why Russia has been demonized and why we have been picking this suicidal fight with Russia for years.

    Russia intervening in Syria has really put a damper on the ability of the Jewish state to steal with impunity and harm any nation they cannot control.

    If only the American people could understand this then maybe, maybe, they could vote all the political whores out of office in both parties and demand representation from those who truly would put America first.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  47. frankie p says:
    @Hitch

    “This is why I cannot understand why we keep hearing from the media that Lavrov and Putin “don’t mind” if Finland and Sweden join Nato.”

    Putin and Lavrov make realistic, factual statements about Finland and Sweden joining NATO. They say that they don’t mind these countries joining, but any weapons systems deployed by NATO will be targeted by equal or greater systems from the Russian side. So basically they are pointing out what they pointed out to Romania and Poland in the past; you are painting a big target on your country. If things get heated, you will be attacked, not the countries that are building the bases on your soil. I feel that the Swedes and Finns should have used a referendum for NATO membership. Perhaps there are 50% of the population capable of independent, critical thinking, but from what I’ve seen in the opinion polls, it’s not too hopeful. The (((media))) has successfully brainwashed the northern Europeans along with the rest of the west.

    • Agree: JM, showmethereal
    • Replies: @Hitch
  48. Relying on anything said by Johnson or Kwiatkowski is a fool’s errand. Both have axes to grind and have been doing so in the face of the facts since Russia lit off the war in 2014.

    There was no excuse for the invasion in 2014, nor in 2022. Russia was under no threat from Ukraine, but all that has now changed, and NATO has expanded as a result of Putin’s idiocy.

  49. @IronForge

    Article 5 is a load of BS. When Argentina invaded UK territory in the Falklands, NATO did not even mention Article 5 and did almost nothing to help the UK. Now all of a sudden, Article 5 is all the rage.

    • Replies: @IronForge
  50. History predicts the crisis “will inevitably lead to a large-scale open combat role for the US against Russia.” And it will be world war. Despite our knowledge of the dangers, nations continue to show an inability to avoid the conflict they seek to prevent. It only takes a trigger, an action “from either side could easily make the war go nuclear.” The omens seem to say it will.
    https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/

  51. @roonaldo

    If the SAS are acting as Zelensky’s bodyguards then the UK is actively involved in the war. They’re probably former SAS or they have been given leave of absence, and “former” can become active regular again if required.

    • Replies: @roonaldo
    , @Levtraro
  52. homer d says:

    The European populations will all eventually rise up and drive their globalist political class and the U.S. military out of Europe. They will do it because they are in no mood for conscription or war, or starvation and cold, they have rebuilt their cities twice in the last 100 years.So much as the build back better crowd will try they will lose. Just hoping they go the extra step of eliminating the class of politicians who dreamed up these plans for conquest.NO peaceful comfortable retirement for such evil arrogant people.

  53. Hitch says:
    @frankie p

    “any weapons systems deployed by NATO will be targeted by equal or greater systems from the Russian side. So basically they are pointing out what they pointed out to Romania and Poland in the past; you are painting a big target on your country.”

    Why didn’t this same maxim apply to Ukraine and why was the war necessary? One of the main “red lines” was always that Ukraine would not be allowed to join Nato. But Finland can? The border between Finland and Russia is very hard to defend, and the distance from the Finnish border to St. Petersburg is even less than that from Ukraine to Moscow.

    Lavrov, Putin and the Russian media have also made numerous statements about Nato encroaching on Russia. Why is Finland any different?

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  54. @Quartermaster

    Your version of developments between 2014 and 2022 is amusing. I have a great deal of respect for both Larry Johnson and Karen Kwiatkowksi.

    • Agree: tyrone, Dnought
    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  55. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    So let me get this straight. We’re sending dozens of billions of dollars, and supplying endless armaments and troops to fight for a depraved Jewish midget and his band of neo nazis?

    Sorry but not sorry I’ll pick Team Russia on this one.

    Go Putin.

    • Agree: Female in FL, annamaria
  56. Karl1906 says:

    It’s not the war of the Alzheimer’s in office, it’s the US establishment’s war. And if it was the other way round the nukes had been flying ever since 2014 came around. Face it, only the US-bully who (still) believes to be on top of the food chain thinks that he can pull off this number.

    Biden is just the demented cherry on top of the shit heap from DC and they’ve been breeding on this turd to hit the fan for 20+ years by now. Ever since 9/11 showed them they could get away with it. With murder, fraud, theft and dictatorship that is.

    There’s nothing secret about this war. Just “our” media constantly gaslighting us ever since Putin didn’t turn into the second Jelzin and sell out Russia to the vultures. And NATO constantly warmongering around the borders of Russia.

    Hope still remains that these people in charge are as demented and deluded as their puppet in the White House. And underestimate the rest of the world to finally break free of the US-establishment’s evil plans and start the real future of our civilisation. Even if it’s much less democratic. But what’s democracy to the West anyway at this point.

  57. @Charles

    But if Russia is prospering thanks to anti-Russia sanctions and the US economy is going down the drain because of blowback of the same sanctions, VVP might decide to go slow and let that situation continue.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine, Notsofast
  58. roonaldo says:
    @roonaldo

    Excuse my calling Ukraine’s security service the FSB…I should have said SBU.

  59. roonaldo says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Yes, that makes more sense, to maintain a veneer of non-intervention.

  60. @Miro23

    Wonder what will happen to Canada if a nuclear war happens, my guesses:

    – the west coast will eventually be taken by China (and will be populated by Asians from all over)

    – the prairies will become the new USA (much humbler this time)

    – the east coast, a new country: Quebec (it will be the promised land for the surviving west-europeans)

    – northern provinces/Canadian Arctic: Russian territory

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Anon
  61. @CelestiaQuesta

    You got the wrong target.

    It’s the “City of London” that has an incredible jew concentration AND the source of jew power. Hitting it would definitely be a real holocaust from the zionist perspective, knocking out some of the top jews and their source of influence. Ukraine is a sideshow.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  62. @lavoisier

    First consideration of US foreign policy: Is it good for Israel?

    All other policy considerations, including policy effects on the well-being of the US and of the well-being of its people, are secondary.

    • Replies: @inspector general
  63. @Franz

    Nothing is confirmed until it is officially denied.
    Otto von Bismarck

    • Agree: Franz
  64. JM says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    It seems increasingly that western powers are burglars, in fact, and are angry at Putin and tge Russians for not letting them steal their property.

    That’s the immediate ‘economic’ part of a much bigger geopolitical motivation. The West has been at that for over 100 years. Ironically the “Communist Internationalists” were very nationalist when it came to protecting Russia’s resources and in fact laid the state foundation on which Putinism rests.

  65. Ross23 says:

    A proxy war is just that, you can’t publicly put your main forces in because when Ukraine fires from territory that hosts US troops it’s no different than if the US did the firing.

    Everyone knows that if US goes into Ukraine it’s war simple as that

  66. Miro23 says:
    @tiger_road

    Wonder what will happen to Canada if a nuclear war happens, my guesses:

    – the west coast will eventually be taken by China (and will be populated by Asians from all over)

    – the prairies will become the new USA (much humbler this time)

    – the east coast, a new country: Quebec (it will be the promised land for the surviving west-europeans)

    – northern provinces/Canadian Arctic: Russian territory

    Without the US and Russia it would be a free for all. China would go for security in raw materials and likely take over the whole of non-European Russia plus Australia. There would be nothing to stop them. They could also venture into the US at some point and South American expansion. There would likely be little left of US ally Canada.

    The WEF/Davos crowd are currently betting on New Zealand. Anglo, English speaking, controlled by Jews, lightly populated, far away from nuclear exchanges and already home to many of their properties (inc. nuclear shelters).

  67. @Miro23

    Russian nukes would deter them.

  68. Jim H says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    ‘A substantial number of American military personnel along with Ukranazi coup regime officers were denazified in Vinnitsa the other day. Possibly several hundred.’ — Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Sounds plausible, but where are the grieving families back in the US?

    Indeed, even if Russia knows where US interlopers are operating in the Ukraine, why would it be in Russia’s strategic interest to escalate directly against the US now?

    If Russia should take such a course, presumably it will come at a moment of its own choosing, and not before.

  69. “… the US will establish a permanent headquarters in Poland for the Fifth Army Corps…”

    For the Poles, hatred of Russia trumps everything, including good sense. The jury is very much out on the success of the US’s latest European venture. The Poles aren’t hedging their bets though. They seem to have forgotten the war within a war the Poles and Ukrainians fought against each other in WW2 and that Russia, no matter what happens to the USA, will always be a European power.

  70. Bro43rd says:
    @Miro23

    Miro23 says “What would the US be like without New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, Philadelphia and the rest + its whole military infrastructure gone?”

    A good starting point, hopefully there will be a remnant of liberty minded folks to get things on the right track.

  71. @Zachary Smith

    As to the war, what difference does it make if the R party takes back Congress? The vast majority in the DC cesspool are with Biden on the war. Only a precious few voted against the \$60 billion giveaway to the Z regime.

    The evil McConnell wing still has the strength to override the anti-war Paul wing, and I don’t see that changing if they win back the Senate. The Jewish & Evangelical neocons are not about to turn tail and admit defeat. They don’t care what the people think. They’ll choose Armageddon over surrender.

    Although domestic policies may change a little for the better under R control, what difference does it make as long as senile Biden remains in office, vetoes their initiatives, and is allowed to force another satanic war down the throats of American citizens? Russia won’t quit either, thus making nuclear war inevitable, unless the military does its Constitutional duty and overthrows the Biden regime before the bombs start flying. What are the chances of that happening?

  72. How do the grad students at the Lagos school of Politics Economics Philosophy caption that NATO leaders group photo?

  73. Anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @tiger_road

    Wonder what will happen to Canada if a nuclear war happens, my guesses:

    We have Field Marshall Turdeau and his sidekicks Jumanji Jag Singh and Minister of Transport Abracadabra to lead us to victory.

    When the Russians attacking from the North and the Chinese from the West hear we have Mr GQ leading the troops, they will shit in their pants.

    Worse case scenario ? they will go back to trapping beaver.

  74. Z-man says:
    @JWalters

    Ah yes, the great Douglas Reed. Labeled an ‘anti Semite’ for speaking the truth and making obvious observations of the times as they were.

    • Replies: @JWalters
  75. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zachary Smith

    – Larry Johnson puts it this way: “I think the purpose of this article coming out now is just to lay the groundwork for why we can’t put or shouldn’t put any more US military personnel….-

    Ohhh!!!!
    This is why my 20 year old son receives every day text messages from requiters with catch phrases like:
    -Laura wants you to join the army with her….
    -You will be an asset joining the Marines….
    -Ukraine is our best bet……
    And so other bullshit.
    I grab my son’s phone and I answer to them back:
    “Get the young Jews first who are living in the States to join the US army instead going to Israel.

    There is a week now, my son has not receive any more texts from these pricks.

    • Replies: @Realist
  76. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @HeebHunter

    Poland will look like Ireland or worse by 2030. The globalists took only a decade to transform Ireland— to empty out the churches, legalize gay marriage and abortion, and repopulate neighborhoods with Africans and Arabs— but Poland will fall even quicker. But quite frankly I feel a rush of schadenfreude thinking about it. The fat-faced fucks in Poland deserve it, good and hard.


    U.S. troops of the 1st Infantry Division protecting Poland


    LGBT march in Warsaw

    When are you gonna start paying reparations for the Holocaust, Poland?!

    Poland, Israel improve ties as ambassador starts work
    Jul 11, 2022

    …Livne noted on Poland’s private TVN24 that the warming of relations comes at a time of many challenges around the world, including instability in the Middle East and Russia’s war in Ukraine, which borders Poland.

    “We believe (that) friendly countries such as Poland and Israel can and should work together to counter the challenges” that appear in security and economic spheres, Livne said.

    “The Jewish people and the Polish people, we have a huge richness of historical ties, historical contacts, this is also something we need to work on,” he said.

    https://mynorthwest.com/3557977/poland-israel-improve-ties-as-ambassador-starts-work/

  77. Levtraro says:
    @Old Brown Fool

    Probably because acknowledging American presence in the Ukraine will require Russia to react to it, and it may lead to direct war, which is certain to end in nuclear attacks on both sides, and Putin does not want it; therefore I surmise Putin is reluctant to use the nuclear option.

    Russians don’t mention it because it is not their style to mention those things, not because it may lead to escalation. Instead of acknowledging or denouncing the presence of American boots on the grounds, they just want to find them and kill them, especially high-ranking ones like those that were KIA in Vinnitsa on July 14th. The pain was so intense that some heads rolled in Ukie leadership.

    • Agree: Harold Smith
    • Replies: @hardlooker
  78. Z-man says:
    @Briggs

    Sad but true.

    • Agree: Briggs
  79. Cking says:

    Thank you Mr. Giraldi. This article must be broadcast far and wide. All operations of WWIII must be stopped at once. Contact your political representation.

    • Replies: @TheMoon
  80. anonymous[470] • Disclaimer says:

    A lot of neocons are extremely intelligent guys and should be able to see the events on the horizon. The centrifuges in Iran are running in a mountain base that is 80 meters underground. In two years not only will Iran have enough enriched uranium for several nuclear weapons but will have made substantial progress on a warhead and ballistic missile. It is at that point that I think the US will start a war with Iran. If Russia does the same exact things the US is doing in Ukraine to help Iran then the war is much more damaging to the US and Israel. It was already going to be a hugely damaging war in the first place. Most neocons deeply care about Israel. I can’t understand why they don’t see how they are endangering Israel by doing this. Even if neocons absolutely had to take out Russia, they should first take out Iran and then take out Russia. Has anyone seen any neocon express concern that steps are being take out of order and it’s going to get people in Israel killed?

    • Replies: @TheMoon
  81. @Anonymous

    The most hilarious thing about all this is that we don’t see hordes of retards screaming “Based Hu-White Pooland” anymore.

    I have always maintained that the Holohoax industry is the third strongest in Pooland, after muttmerica and pissrael. Such a (((country))), whose very existence is dependent on the NWO and it’s anti-national founding myth, cannot be “based”. Of course everyone who kept an eye on Pooland over the years was hounded by Hu-White “nationalists”, ever so vigilant for their Hu-White Brotha of Pooland. They are all silent now.

    Pooland MUST be dismantled for good this time. You know it, we know it. It is simply a mere hub for kike activities in Europe. The stupid, unnesscary scuffle with Russia has shown again that Europe will only survive and prosper through a German-Russian partnership.

    Who has prevented this from naturally occurring?

    -Kikes. Not much needed to be added.
    -anglos aka Negro-Sicxon island monkeys of the Great Shitstain, whose country has declared many times they wanted to sabotage Europe. The Euro was their invention, now their doom.
    -Amerimutts. An unholy combination of both the Negro-Saxon and the kikes.

    And of course, our low IQ, fake “Catholic” hordes of Pooland, not being so “Based” anymore.

    But their plan is satanic and naturally self defeating. Even in the frozen-wasteland scenario, whatever that is left of Europe will naturally seek cooperation with Russia, China and the rest of the world.

    Pooland is an unnatural tumor of Europe. The Earth’s immune system will push them out. A country cannot be propped up by welfare or gay trannies mulatto mercanaries forever. A nation whose founding myth is the Holohoax is bound for the toilet of history when the Truth is revealed.

    I mean, seriously, relying on (((NATO))) for your existence. Practically and metaphysically stupid and evil.

    • Replies: @monika92gti
    , @Colleen
  82. @TitusAlone

    Yes, there is always someone worse-off than oneself. Consider the poor deluded Aussies, all enamored with Fosters, steak and soccer. More and more that’s all they got. Why? The place, considered an actual continent by some, is a fukkin DOMINION. It’s one of the Five-Eyes of the CROWN.

    The cover story is quite convincing. There’s the ratty old Quean in Buckingham Palace. She’s allegedly running the show, dontcha know. Uh-uh. Ever since the Rottenchild crime clan busted the Bank of England in 1815 and since then have run that show and all too many others; the CROWN resides in City of London; firmly ensconced in the grubby mitts of the world’s #1 criminal enterprise.

    So the hapless Aussies, like the Kiwis and the residents of Canuckistan; are friggen SUBJECTS of the bloody Crown. They are not even ostensibly independent, which is the condition of the fifth Eye, the ruptured republic and its alleged “democracy”.

    Perhaps Nato’s great adventure in backing the PianoDick’s picture-show in Kiev’s puppet regime will be the beginning of the end for the Five Eyes and for their employers, squatting on prime real estate in City of London who may be meeting their own Waterloo in the not too distant future as the economic underpinnings of the puppet-mastered West go down the Big Swirly.

    • Replies: @Kapyong
    , @Colleen
  83. Levtraro says:
    @roonaldo

    While we are on the subject of Zelensky, I think we need to admit that we’ve vastly underestimated the ability of Jewish comedians to destroy countries.

    Jewish comedian dumping some high ranking charlatans in Ukie nomenklatura was not due to fear of military coups. It was the consequence of the killings in Vinnitsa. Russkies seem to somehow know too much the whereabouts of who is meeting whom in the Ukraine.

    • Replies: @SOL
  84. @Franz

    If they really wanted peace with Russia, they would have helped Trump do just that.

    Sheesh…not this nonsense again. If Trump wanted better relations with Russia, he would’ve made it happen. Instead he did the opposite. Trump is a complete fraud who betrayed his supporters and his election mandate; that’s why he lost the 2020 election.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Franz
  85. EugeneGur says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    It looks like the west has had it in for Putin since he put the kibosh on the looting of Russia by “western” oligarchs, and that what western leaders want above anything else is to loot Russia.

    You have a much better grasp of the economic situation than the majority of the Western economists. After the destruction of the Soviet Union, the West looted Russia for trillions of dollars. Putin put a stop to it – not instantly, but over a decade – and became an enemy #1.

    It seems sale of resources in roubles would give the greenback a hard kick in its groin.

    Not just that, but also steeling of the Russian property and currency reserves. It dawned even of Switzerland that such brazen robbery puts its own banking business at risk, but the US doesn’t seem to be aware. A significant portion of the world trade is now outside the dollar sphere, and that sphere is shrinking every day. The day the dollar is gone as the reserve currency, so is the US as the world power.

    It seems increasingly that western powers are burglars

    Have been for centuries. And Russia is such a juicy piece, they simply cannot resist.

  86. Realist says:

    On the way to the NATO summit aboard Air Force One, Biden’s National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan advised that “By the end of the summit what you will see is a more robust, more effective, more combat credible, more capable and more determined force posture to take account of a more acute and aggravated Russian threat.

    Why does everyone keep promoting the charade that Biden has any authority or control?

  87. Levtraro says:
    @Commentator Mike

    There’s no ned to make a big fuss out of the active involvement of western boots in the Ukraine. We all know there are lots of them and they are quite active.

    In fact the USA is paying the salaries of the whole Ukie govt and armed forces. That’s very active in my book.

    Do you know what was the most remarkable thing about the Azov losers captured in Mariupol? They all had loads of cash, mostly benjamins lol!

  88. @Hitch

    “ Why didn’t this same maxim apply to Ukraine and why was the war necessary? One of the main “red lines” was always that Ukraine would not be allowed to join Nato. But Finland can? The border between Finland and Russia is very hard to defend, and the distance from the Finnish border to St. Petersburg is even less than that from Ukraine to Moscow.”

    The entry of Sweden and Finland is designed to further stoke the Russian bear and push it into a full fledged war. Putin and Lavrov sensed the trap for what it is and decided to concentrate on the one Ukrainian front which historically had been the chosen route of the existential invasions against Russia led by Napoleon and Hitler. Though Saint Petersburg is very close to the Finnish border, the length of the joint Russian-Finnish border can be a liability to either party going into offensive mode and the length of the border that can lead from Finland to the mass of the Russian landmass is much shorter. The logistical movements of hostile European powers from Ukraine into Russia proper are much more convenient than that from Finland to Russia. Besides, Finland is a tiny country with a population of one eighth of Ukraine. Think of the Baltic states; how many missiles it would take to destroy their defenses or their ability to stay as a functioning society and we might guess that adding another hostile Finland won’t make much of a difference.

    • Replies: @Hitch
  89. Realist says:
    @Anonymous

    I grab my son’s phone and I answer to them back:
    “Get the young Jews first who are living in the States to join the US army instead going to Israel.

    There is a week now, my son has not receive any more texts from these pricks.

    Those pricks are probably planning an accidental gas leak and explosion at your home.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  90. @Miro23

    China would go for security in raw materials and likely take over the whole of non-European Russia plus Australia.

    No they wouldn’t “take over” anything; that’s nonsensical jew talk.

    There would be nothing to stop them.

    Yes there would be something to stop them: common sense and their own moral compunction.

    • Agree: A B Coreopsis
  91. @Mr. Hack

    Cartoons are exceedingly powerful images. Consider the fact that the vast majority of American toddlers are raised by their #1 Baby-Sitter, cartoons on the boob-toob. Thus, they develop what can be called “a Cartooniverse view of the Universe”. Add that to what Hitch pointed out regarding a fact of which I was previously unaware: THAT FLUORIDE IS EVEN ADDED TO BOTTLED WATER.

    Yeah, check out that graphic in #26, “The Fluoride Stare”. One thing we know from autopsies is that the pineal gland, a normally crystalline element of our brains, is fogged-in, clouded-over and obscured by a calcification engineered by fluoride. Somewhere along the line, the PTB discovered that electro-chemical function of fluoride.

    So here’s the probable scenario. Prior to the late ’30’s, stannous fluoride was a generally useless bi-product of the aluminum industry, with it’s only known application being rat-poison. So being informed that there was extra \$\$\$ to be made by selling public health “authorities” on the alleged efficacy of this chemical in alleged prevention of cavities among children; Alcoa’s primary owners, the Mellon Crime Clan sent out one of their prime operatives, perhaps even the notorious Anslinger, to bribe central figures in the American Dental Association (ADA) to push that product.

    Similar to Harry Anslinger’s work in the Prohibition racket and for the Dupont Crime Clan in the Dupontistan state known also as Delaware with the campaign against hemp/cannabis; bought and paid for agents quickly shared a bit of gelt with greedy legislative leaders in key states in order to convince them to come on line and push that poison on an easily deluded public as a matter of STATE LAW, as it happens to be here in my state of Minnesota. And this state of public affairs is harshly enforced by paid agents of the state to ensure that each municipality contaminates its water supply with stannous fluoride.

    Why the fuss over fluoride? It’s the pineal gland, stoopid. Crystalline structure, right? That amazing gland acts like an old-fashioned radio receiver. The Cosmos is a Whole. Creator is real. Humans are capable of “tuning in” via that little understood gland. Currently, America in particular is being constantly targeted to remain a deliberately dumbed-down herd of Goyim (cattle). Get it?

    Oh yes. And that Cartooniverse view of the Universe is an implant. Added to the “Fluoride Stare”, mind-control over the masses has been policy for the insiders over generations. Add an educational policy centering on a curriculum deliberately designed to dumb-down the “Inmates” and there you have three legs of the total picture.

    • Thanks: Hitch
  92. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    NATO is a protection racket which ties countries to the US, buying overpriced weapons and not being able to stray from the US party line. Nice country you’ve got here, be a shame if something bad happened to it, here’s an insurance policy for you. The Germans needed a couple million or so troops to invade USSR. A few tens of thousands, or hundred thousands, couldn’t do anything in either direction. It’s just expensive PR. They tried to weaponize Ukraine against Russia but the Russians didn’t follow the script and roll over and play dead. They have no plausible reason to go any further than Ukraine. If US-NATO personnel get vaporized on the territory of Ukraine then that would be too bad but there it would stay. The US is just suckering the various countries, pushing them into the line of fire, fighting to the last Ukrainian with its stooge in a gilded cage Zelensky. Next they’re trying to lure the Poles to be their cannon fodder. People thought the US would come in with its might to protect them if they were in NATO. Instead they’re the ones on the front line with the US cheerleading from behind and, of course, sending weapons for them to keep up the good work.

  93. @Old Brown Fool

    Assuming your family allows you to manage your own investments what do you advise fellow investors to do given the certainty you express in your final words?

    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  94. The ZUS government is controlled by terrorists and ZNATO is the terrorist kabal that carries out nation destruction at the direction of the zionists who control all the western governments and have created all the terrorist groups such as AL CIADA aka ISIS aka AL NURSA, etc.., terrorist one and all and the real terrorists in control of all live in DC, Tel Aviv , London, Paris, these are the real terrorists.

    The war in the Ukraine started with the zionist Nuland led coup in 2014 and the killing of over 16,000 people in the breakaway Donbass region and this is what caused Russia to intervene in the Ukraine in defense of the people of the Donbass.

    Russia has the moral high ground in this war, God bless Russia for saving the people of the Donbass and for saving Syria from total destruction by the forces of evil aka the ZUS and ZNATO, and this war in Syria is far from over, but Russia and Syria will prevail.

  95. @Briggs

    Take your meds!

    • Troll: Briggs
  96. @Kolya Krassotkin

    The jews who control the corrupt West are already billionaires or at least multimillionaires who have access to the best of everything this society can offer, so why would they be willing to risk losing it all, likely including their lives, in a nuclear war with Russia, just to potentially gain a little more wealth?

    As I see it, it doesn’t really make sense that this warmongering madness is all about billionaires acquiring Russian “resources” or propping up the dollar (since but for the hopeless quest for complete world domination and control the dollar wouldn’t be in trouble in the first place).

    The more plausible explanation IMO is that jews hate Russia because a greater evil cannot tolerate a lesser evil. The West’s war against Russia is a spiritual war whose ultimate objective is to show that evil triumphs over good everywhere on earth. The jews hate Russia because it is a powerful country which rejects the imposition of their Satanic, messianic, judeo-communist new world order.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  97. @Biding

    Biding one’s time, eh? Appears to be yet another Deep \$tate infiltraitor, judging by the text of this I.D. play on words, considering the resonance with the “Chief” puppet allegedly occupying the Oval Orfice.

    A Polak emanating Brzeszinski? Could be. Obviously, though, a middle-high level provocateur living on the taxpayer dollar. Check over the text. Point by point “Biding One’s Time” plays out every major anti-Russian apologia on behalf of the enemies of humanity.

    Perhaps this guy is even one of the 20,000 or so hackers employed directly or indirectly (under the SAIS contractor with deep Rottenchild Crime Clan connexions) by the D.O.D. He’s pretty sharp, well schooled on propaganda techniques and even fairly well-versed in History. Amazing that. Note how he even hankers back to Bismark’s peace-keeping alliance, the Drei Kaiser’s Bund, but cleverly twists it to suggest the appearance of victimizing Poland in an imperial tangle.

    Poland and its masses of Khazarian Talmudists, has long been a favorite lapdog/stalking-horse and whipping-boy for Perfidious Albion and its owners.

    Benjamin Disraeli and some of his French “Cousins”, managed to canoodle the Russian state into abandoning the peace-keeping alliance with Germany and Austria-Hungary and joining up in an alliance with Britain and France. The result…a long planned World War One.

    Behind the scenes is where the action is. Knowledge of genuine history is a powerful weapon. If THEY are allowed to keep the public in a state of stupefied ignorance, it is quite clear that they would be the winners of the human race.

  98. Jim H says:

    ‘Biden and other western leaders have been dissimulating regarding their active participation in the Russia-Ukraine conflict.’ — Philip Giraldi

    And Russia just announced that it’s not playing along with the charade anymore:

    ‘Russia’s defense ministry has issued a formal order for Russian troops to target Ukraine’s long-range weapons and artillery supplied by the West, specifically the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) provided by the United States.

    ‘In Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu publishing the order on Monday, the Kremlin is sending one of the most provocative messages to Washington thus far in the war, signaling the two powers continue stumbling toward direct confrontation.

    “Army General Sergey Shoigu … instructed the commander to use surgical strikes and crush the enemy’s long-range missile and artillery means,” the Russian Defense Ministry said according to TASS.’ — ZH

    ‘Are those fireworks, daddy?’

    ‘No, son, those are HIMARS blowing up, turning dollars into dust.’

  99. RodW says:

    Before the SMO started but when the Russians were warning of it, even the most qualified pundits were adamant that Russia wouldn’t invade Ukraine. Now, with Russia and its friends issuing warnings again, it seems that the worst prognosis is that Russia might target Kiev. I don’t think that’s what the Russians will do. Kiev is strategically negligible and nothing important gets decided there. And Russia’s real enemies aren’t there are either.

    I think Russia will make some offer that won’t be accepted, as predicted. Then they’ll sweep the sky clear of NATO planes along Ukraine’s western border and destroy all NATO airbases as far west as Germany using non-nuclear means. They could probably afford to declare war on NATO and state their limited war aims a few hours before the first salvos. They’ll announce that they have nuclear weapons ready in case of any retaliation. What could NATO do? With Ramstein still burning, Russia can reissue their call for mutual security. The NATO forces still in Ukraine manning the weapons used to kill Russian speakers will be highly vulnerable without the recently destroyed targeting support, and as Russia rounds them up and parades them in front of cameras, people around the world will understand that Russia is justified in waging overt war.

    That’s what I reckon will happen.

  100. @Charles

    Russia, contrary to Hitler’s Germany, is a huge landmass that is fighting right at her own border. Hitler’s hand was forced into full fledged war because he had to preempt the British encircling moves such as trying to get a foothold in Greece to gain access to the Southern European front or the British sponsored coup in Yugoslavia to nullify the non aggression treaty with the Yugoslav government and last but not least the planned British occupation of Norway that was exposed by Quisling and led to the German occupation of this neutral country. The net result was that tiny Germany was overextended on many fronts.

    Russia on the other hand can turn a war of attrition to her benefit for two main reasons: NATO’s supply lines into Ukraine are much longer than that of Russia, and NATO countries’economies are teetering on the edge of the abyss. Dr. Roberts’ concern that Russian patience might embolden the NATO allies and encourage them to be more provocative is a valid argument but then a strong demonstration of overwhelming Russian fire power in Western Ukraine can give Natostan the casus belli that it is looking for to convince its brainwashed masses that Russia is an existential threat and doom any possibility of a peaceful resolution. Russian patience was instrumental at defeating both Napoleon and Hitler and there is no reason to doubt that this valuable quality should not win the day for Russia one more time.

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  101. Yankistan and the Europansies have been involved in the Ukraine situation since before the 2004 Orange Revolution. The recent slight change of face is probably due to the realization by the few critically thinking capable analysts within the West that they would LOSE BADLY militarily, economically and politically to the Russian Alliance. ENJOY YOUR WARM WINTER w/o Russian Gas, EUROPANSIES!!!

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/game-over-europe

    Unfortunately, the delusional Talmudic Controlled Pedo Joe coup administration and associated Europansies will probably double down and go full retard just to buy a few more days of Petrodollar life. Never go full retard!!!

    In addition, retarded western mercs and now parasitic western arms dealers are getting Kalibrated (Vinnytsia, Mariupol, etc). I expect this trend of turning up the pain by Team Putin to continue until hopefully the west implements the ancient healing technique better known by its Roman name of “Removus Headus from Gluteus Maximus”.

    https://southfront.org/military-and-political-victims-reveal-secrets-of-russian-strike-in-vinnytsia/

    Follow the teachings of Prophet Borat AKA Sacha Baron Cohen – Jew, “Throw the jew down the well and your country will be free”. The Talmudic Tapeworm NEEDS TO BE EXTINGUISHED PERMANENTLY.

    Jew: “What did the jews ever do to you?”.

    https://gab.com/BlackScorpionNationalists/posts/108673110634043556

    For more links, please see my comment #10 in the article “How jewish is war against Russia? (The West)” by Mr. Giraldi.

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-jewish-is-the-war-against-russia/

    You are welcome.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  102. Beagle says:

    Backing Russia into a corner has been US policy for 31 years after GHWB promised not to move NATO one inch eastward. When the Neocon/libs (US security state shills) have acted since the end of the Cold War – NATO expansion, breakup of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, and now Ukraine – it’s been against a Russian ally, client state, or in the case of Syria and Crimea, where Russia has its ‘overseas’ naval bases.

    This time, the Neocon/libs got exactly what they want. Russia can’t back down. Putin can’t allow NATO forces directly under Moscow in eastern Ukraine. Nor can it lose its Black Sea base in Sevastopol. Zelensky says all the right things about recapturing all of Ukraine. He’s suppressed all opposing voices. Incredible amounts of money are being thrown at Ukraine, some of which even stays there. They have total control over western media which runs stories against Russia and Russians which go far beyond any John Birch rhetoric against the Soviets in the Cold War. And as always, despite failure on the battlefield, they only know to deny and deflect while pressing the accelerator even harder.

    When I was young and the Soviet Union collapsed – happily listening to Jesus Jones sing Right Here, Right Now, the zeitgeist song – I was actually stupid enough to think the West (good guys) would now try to get along with and cooperate with the Russians, thereby avoiding the big nuclear war which had seemed inevitable before that.

    Blew that call.

  103. Agent76 says:

    Biden is just following orders from the Joint Chiefs at the Pentagon.

    May 15, 2017 Ukraine: US-Installed Fascist Rule in Europe’s Heartland. Will Donetsk Rejoin Russia?

    The nation shares a near-1,500 mile land and sea border with Russia. Stop NATO’s Rick Rozoff earlier explained Ukraine is “the decisive linchpin in plans by the US and its NATO allies to effect a military cordon sanitaire, severing Russia from Europe” – a sinister plot perhaps intended as prelude to nuclear war.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-us-installed-fascist-rule-in-europes-heartland-will-donetsk-rejoin-russia/5590150

    Sep 9, 2016 US-funded Ukrainian army is terrorizing civilians

    Russell Bentley is a former US marine, that now fights for the Donbass, Eastern Ukraine, against the US-funded Ukrainian army.

    • Replies: @Hitch
  104. @Quartermaster

    You are a very “Special” person Quartermaster. I believe you need to practice an ancient healing technique known by its Roman name “Removus Headus from Gluteus Maximus”. Lay off the Rambo and Red Dawn movies.

    This song is dedicated to you and your ilk.

    Ride the short bus by Mean Joe.

  105. IronForge says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Yet Article 5 was invoked by Murica via 9/11 to drag NATO into AFG and IRQ.

    The Falklands were over “Disputed” GBR Colonial Territory – not considered as a “Homeland Invasion” – Across the Atlantic deep into the Southern Hemisphere with only Fleet Assets capable of engaging Tactically.

    Murica were standing by; but others weren’t keen on deploying Fleets for GBR Colonies.

    That being said, Article 5 were already mentioned by StoltenTURD and Biden in their Crap Attempts to give Kiev “de Facto” NATO Status; and this War can Spill Over into NATO “Homelands” quickly.

  106. IronForge says:
    @Briggs

    Funny, that’s how most of the World see Muricans – regardless of their Skin Color – when they Occupy Overseas Bases and Countries Abroad.

    Yankee Go Home!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  107. How will this struggle for influence in the area of the former USSR end? In the Book of Revelation we read: “Another came out, a fiery-colored horse, and it was granted to the one seated on it to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another, and he was given a powerful sword.” (6:4) This will be a mutual slaughter and world war not only by name. And the great power sword will be used. Jesus characterized him in this way: “A frightening things both and extraordinary (related to unusual phenomena) from sky powerful will be.” (Luke 21:11) Because of the use of these terrible weapons there will be significant tremors along the length and breadth of the regions [of strategic importance] and famines, and pestilences. Some ancient manuscripts contain the words “and frosts”. The Aramaic Peshitta: “and will be great frosts”. (Luke 21:11) We call this today “nuclear winter”. In Mark 13:8 there are also words of Jesus: “and disorders” (in the sense of confusion and chaos). The Aramaic Peshitta: “and confusion” (on the state of public order).
    The global nuclear war, (this will be the fulfillment of the sign of Jesus), will start with an ethnic conflict: “For nation will rise against nation”, like as in 2008 in Georgia. (Matthew 24:7)
    In the Book of Daniel, we read, “And both these kings [Great Britain and Russia. In 1882 British troops occupied Egypt. Great Britain then took the role of “the king of the south”. Around the same time, Russia expanded its influence in the region, which previously belonged to Seleucus I Nicator, and took the role of “the king of the north”], their hearts (will be) to do mischief, and at one table (they) will speak a lie; but it will not succeed. Indeed yet (the) completion to (the) appointed time. And [the king of the north] will go back (to) his land with great wealth [1945. This detail indicated that after the previous victories Hitler will attack the Soviet Union and will fight to the bitter end]; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant [Soviet Union introduced state atheism and believers were repressed]; and will act; and go back to his own land [1991-1993. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. The troops from the Soviet military bases returned to their country]. At the appointed time [he] will return back [Russian troops will return to where they were previously stationed. It also means military actions, a major crisis, plus the break-up of the EU and NATO], and will enter into the south [because of ethnic conflict], but it will not be as the former or as the latter [here is a reference to military actions related to the implementation of the announcement concerning the return of the “king of the north”. These will not develop directly into a global nuclear war. This war, which is a sign, will only begin after the return of the “king of the north”], then the dwellers of coastlands of Kittim [the distant West] will come against him, and (he) will break down [mentally], and will go back.” (11:27-30a) And that is when this powerful sword will be used.

  108. Hitch says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Sure, Ukraine is a far bigger threat than Finland, but the positioning of radar spy stations and intermediate range ballistic missiles are a threat that is fully independent of the population or the numbers of tanks, artillery and fighters. Russia says that no foreign bases can be stationed there, but we all know how this works. First the embassy becomes a CIA spy station and a home for Special Ops and Mercenary troops. Then joint programs with “visits” by Nato and US special ops to Finnish military bases. Then joint “exercises” and “prepositioning” of hardware, and then come joint “intelligence” operating stations:

    And sure, Russia is kowtowing to the Judeo-Masonic media here, just like they are with their supposed “blockade of Ukrainian grain causing starvation around the world”.

    I simply don’t understand the “calculus” here. We keep hearing that Putin is taking off the kid gloves, then we have this kowtow in Finland and a continued blocade of transport to Königsberg. And why is Medvedev out there war mongering like John McCain or Lyndsey Graham while Putin is giving a green light to Finland in Nato?

    Two current cucks by Putin are the MH17 verdict and the Skripal Novichuk “poisoning” trials. There is a complete void here coming from Russia.

    http://johnhelmer.org/the-coming-verdict-in-the-mh17-trial-is-certain-and-double-dutch/

    http://johnhelmer.org/novichok-investigation-collapses-in-london-court-adam-chapman-lawyer-appointed-to-represent-sergei-yulia-skripal-doesnt/

    To me a far more logical explanation is that Putin is merely playing his assigned role.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  109. chris says:

    The mainstream media has been a cheerleader for aggressive US support of Ukraine and Zelensky, but now it is beginning to step back from that position, as have also the Washington Post and other media outlets. Perhaps they are becoming convinced that the game plan being promoted by Washington and its European allies is unlikely to succeed at great cost to the respective economies.

    I don’t give these mainstream sources any agency anymore. I don’t think they‘re „becoming convinced“ of anything, they’re just being told what the current game-plan is and they just summarize what they’re told to say.

    I mean the plan to start a war with Russia, is now years in the making, and it’s not up to the one or the other reporter to change that.

    Or to quote Caitlin Johnstone, the only „agency“ they have is the Central Intelligence kind.

  110. DaveE says:
    @Harold Smith

    The jews hate Russia because it is a powerful country which rejects the imposition of their Satanic, messianic, judeo-communist new world order.

    Exactly. It ain’t about shekels – at least not primarily. Shlomo has more stolen loot than he knows what to do with. They hate Russia for the same reason they hated Germany, Hitler and anyone who’s better than they. Pure envious rage caused by cognitive dissonance at being shown to be so inferior to The Goyim in every fair contest.

    Shlomo is a megalomaniac in every sense. The Protocols are real and guide his every move. Putin gets in their way; the Russian people remember what The Jew did to them 100+ years ago. So Torah-style REVENGE is their all-consuming lust.

    The money is just a necessary tool to achieve world-control and torah-inspired power plays against the Goyim, the New Amalekites, but it’s just the means to a greater end.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @ADeceptive Pseudonym
  111. anon[149] • Disclaimer says:
    @mark green

    Most Americans would rather burp, fart, scratch themselves, and watch the NFL than think. Fat, lazy, and stupid is no way to go through life, but tens of millions of Americans manage it. Time to end the charade. And China and others who want to stand up to globoshlomohomo would be wise to stand with Russia, because a Russian defeat will mean they are next. Americans are on the wrong side of history, but too stupid and supine to notice.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  112. BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW!!!!!!

  113. Hitch says:
    @Agent76

    “US funded Ukrainian army is terrorizing civilians 2016” is really just a repeat of “US funded Russian army is terrorizing civilians, 1945”.

    This is one of the things that irks me most about the behavior of Lavrov and Putin. It was their beloved Red Army that staged the holofraud and also ethnically cleansed and genocided ethnic Germans from all across Eastern Europe. Those Bolsheviks and Freemasons also knew perfectly well that Germany and most of Europe was fighting a war against Judeo-Bolshevism, not Jews.

    So now ethnic Russians are getting a taste of their own medicine. But clearly, like the Bourbons “They had learned nothing and forgotten nothing.”

    Ethnic Russians pining over the old Judeo-Soviet empire are just about as disgusting as Americans who still believe that they “made the world safe for democracy”. Both of them are massive masonic lies. At this point in time, it is the American Judeo-Masonic order that is a bigger threat to humanity, so I am rooting for Russia. But I could switch over to some other underdog in an instant if Russians cannot accept the magnitude of the crimes against humanity that were committed in their name.

    Brain dead useful idiot zombie communists are lurking just beneath the surface across the entire planet. They mix and match easily with the suicidal environmental “last generation” protesters. They are all cannon fodder for Jewish mind control, and the failure of Putin and Lavrov to identify the origin of this cognitive dissonance is just another facet of the “great reset”.

    • Agree: chris
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  114. The Democratic Party is a homosexual pederast Empire led by (((Anthony Blinken)))….

    I live to see the day that (((Anthony Blinken))) is convicted of WAR CRIMES against Slavic Russian Children in Donbas….

  115. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Point is kike, I am homeless.
    Right now I commenting using Starbucks wire services, in Tirana.
    The owners of “starbucks” coffee outlets, are pricks as well.
    Hey Jacob!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Wipe-off from your face the map of israel and run to donate to paralyzed veterans who fought for your …..freedom and democracy in ….eye-raq.
    have a good day….

    • Troll: Realist
  116. Trumpeter says:

    I believe Russia has a history of using winter to kill it’s enemy.

    Why would Russia risk all out war with USA when the collapse of the EU economy will collapse the EU banks. The tangle of derivatives will bring down all western banks. At that point it is crashing deflation followed by either hyperinflation, or collapse of the West.

    Short of a place to send tech graduates, what do we have that India needs and can’t get elsewhere. Short of a large market to sell to, what do we have that China can’t get elsewhere (well, unpoluted farmland.) Short of free welfare, what do the scores of millions who came here care about America.

  117. Mr. Hack says:
    @emerging majority

    Cartoons are exceedingly powerful images.

    I couldn’t agree with you any more. I’ve only recently started to increase my usage of these powerful images to augment whatever message that I’m trying to get across. I hope that comment #33, including the the accompanying political cartoon, got through to you? As far as people having their pineal glands unfairly altered so that their ability to understand the messages thrown their way and being “dumbed down” because of the amount of fluoride added to their drinking water, I would recommend that they do as I do: put a water filter on their indoor taps that quite effectively eliminate chloride, or buy and use mineral water where no fluoride is ever added into the marketing process. These things work and they’re not all that expensive.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  118. @Levtraro

    True. Now let’s consider how much pain would be caused were the Russian Foreign Ministry to broadcast images of a half-dozen verifiably American heads on pikes. And how quickly Western support for the war would be fully acknowledged, then subside amidst frenzied negotiations.
    Remember the effect of the Mogadishu film?

  119. @Harold Smith

    Placed side by side, JewSA and China, it is not China that suffers by comparison. A world run by China might prove much healthier. The jews may look “white”, but attack whites at every turn, usually with deadly consequences. The United States is a society in which whites cannot protect themselves against black violence or rapine without threat of being destroyed by the jewstice system. America is a country in which capable white men are denied careers and dreams by jew tribalism and jew-orchestrated affirmative action – which expressly targets white males. And jewmerican institutions such as the NIH and CDC are pushing a vaccine that is killing whites disproportionately, while sterilizing and maiming those who survive. China is not your enemy. Your enemy is the ethno-state that trump and desantis pay tribute to, and that owns your congress and senate. Smart Americans need to stand with the Russians and Chinese, but they’re not the ones trying to kill you or destroy your heritage. But, alas, most American males are fat bastards and freeloaders who want others to do the heavy lifting.

    • Agree: Harold Smith
  120. @Zachary Smith

    Breaking: Major Incident Declared In London:

    Was a strike authorized on “Respected Western Partners,” using the sizzling heat as plausible deniability? Or did Am I Sick do it to inflame tensions?

    • Replies: @Hitch
  121. @IronForge

    Can’t call Article 5 if NATO Attack Crimea or march into UKR…

    Sure they can … but will they actually want to?

  122. They still find white guys in Gaza USA willing to get splattered by Russian artillery? Being sent CIA undercover to Ukraine is like going on a date with Rachel Levine and reaching between his legs only to discover he’s still a “dick.” That they aren’t really experts at all. Just con artists with grandiose plans and no means to ever achieve them.

  123. @Harold Smith

    Yes there would be something to stop them: common sense and their own moral compunction.

    Ah yes, China’s well developed moral compunction.

    Good one!

    • LOL: JM
    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  124. NATO does has very few choices here but to act in response to Russian aggression.

    That’s a great photo of the NATO member leadership — really well done, for such a large group shot.

    ———————

    I am curious about the rationale about Russia being goaded or provoked into invading Ukraine. There is no evidence for this. What took place took place in Ukraine.

    https://khpg.org/en/1574118741

    https://sciencenorway.no/opinion-researchers-zone-russia/survey-ukrainians-do-overwhelmingly-not-want-to-be-part-of-russia/1991410

    https://theconversation.com/most-people-in-separatist-held-areas-of-donbas-prefer-reintegration-with-ukraine-new-survey-124849

    There is no evidence that the conflict in Ukraine was part of some larger schema to provoke Russians in any way.

    • Disagree: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • LOL: Z-man
    • Troll: RoatanBill
  125. GMC says:

    Mostly, I see Finland and Sweden being suckered into the Nato Boyz club , in order to have someone close to the Northern trade route that Russia and China will develope. They should have formed their own pact with Norway , in order to get into the action, instead, they just committed suicide , as the Multi Polar momentum will either pass them by or make them a target. And Monsanto’s huge GMO seed vault in the nordic mountains won’t bloom, when the “Climate Weapons” are found to be part of the Great re-Set and the DePopulation Agenda.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  126. Pablo says:

    The Real Powers That Be (TRPTB) put Biden in The White House for the EXACT reason that Joe Biden is a senile, mentally incompetent person. TRPTB know FULL WELL the World just might collapse. This is a likely possibility. So what to do? You put Joe Biden in The White House and blame all the sh#t that hits the fan on the American Voter for electing Joe Biden!! TRPTB will never surrender Power–voluntarily. On June 15 Vladimir Putin went before The Duma to get approval to target targets OUTSIDE of Ukraine. Putin isn’t doing this as a Bluff; he’s got specific targets in mind.

  127. @Joe Levantine

    Russian tactics is not necessarily patience. Retreating into cities was a Soviet tactic, and contrary to the Treaty of Westphalia requiring minimizing civilian involvement in combat zones. Yes it bought them time, but Stalin and his boys couldn’t have cared less about the civilian casualties, other than for later propaganda purposes, which turned into “the Great Patriotic War”. His “friends” in the West had been bombing German civilians without criticism. All victims are not equal.
    The other (another?) “big lie” is that Operation Barbarosa was part of Hitler’s lebensraum. He understood that Germany’s biggest problem in WWI was a war on 2 fronts. Why attack the USSR if they were no threat? John Wear has covered that nicely here at Unz.
    Is it not ironic that Russia invaded Eastern Ukraine for the same purpose as Germany invaded Poland – to save an ethnic group being slaughtered?
    NATO has always been the bankers’ pit bull. It’s goal has always been to find new enemies.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  128. @Ghali

    This whole “Impregnable Fortress” American attitude comes from it’s geographical location with two oceans that make it a distant target. This was true during WWII.
    Putin has made it clear that this is irrelevant now.
    Russia with it’s supersonic missiles cannot be deterred by the US and it has the ultimate advantage right now. They also have ultra quiet submarines that can cause tsunamis on either coasts to engulf cities.
    Americans should be alert when the small hats start abandoning the US all at once and stop them. I fear that there will be an exodus of Neo-Cons just before this happens.

  129. Just nuke the NY Times editorial offices and production facilities during normal business hours. It would solve a lot of the world’s problems.

  130. @IronForge

    Can’t call Article 5 if NATO Attack Crimea or march into UKR…

    If any NATO army goes into Ukraine the Poles, there goes any claim the West might have of being “the good guys”. In fact a NATO army doesn’t even have to formally go into Ukraine, even any sort of conventional force entering the country would call into question the West’s moral standing.

    Yeah they can spin it as saving the part of Ukraine that can be saved from the evil Russians, but absolutely no one will buy that bull.

    You do not stab an “ally”/puppet in the back while he’s fighting for his life on another front. That is the action of a vicious and lying opportunist, and the entirety of the world, even those rabidly pro-West, would see it as such.

    That’s why it simply will not happen, because it would be an indescribably stupid move on the part of NATO.

    Repeat after me: NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  131. @emerging majority

    Flouride was used as a mood depressant in concentration camps and gulags. Similar to saltpeter in the French foreign legion bread servings. It’s also a byproduct of uranium mining. The cold war saw an excess of the stuff so the PTB found a profitable use: distribute huge quantities to municipalities and store it near their water treatment plants etc. Thus they could dose-wise modulate the moods of the masses during the anticipated nuclear war panics. Do I entirely believe that? Yes and no, I do know the ghouls who were busted doing radiation experiments on kids the headquarters of the Manhattan project medical division were said to have tried it out on some unsuspecting upstate NY towns in the late 40s to 50s.

    • Thanks: emerging majority
  132. Anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:

    The white race should stop degrading itself with economic and other wars and start acting as a uniform entity against the tidal wave of colored part of the mankind. This is the only possibility for our survival. Prove me wrong.

  133. Anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:

    The white race should stop degrading itself with all kinds of wars and start acting as a uniform entity against the tidal wave of colored part of mankind. This is the only possibility for our survival. Prove me wrong.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  134. @RoatanBill

    Targets should be just the City of London, Tel Aviv, New York and DC. If more jurats surface, just play whack- a -mole. That should suffice.

  135. Hitch says:

    From a Telegram post translated from Russian:

    Judging by the number of Ukrainian warplanes shot down in the sky of Ukraine by our fighters and air defense forces as of today, we can say with confidence that on February 24, a near-zero number of serviceable aircraft were destroyed at enemy airfields, which, in turn, once again confirms the assumption that that the Ukrainian were well aware of the day and even the hour of the beginning of the SMO.

    And here, as it were, a series of, for the most part, rhetorical questions arises, to which, I hope, answers have already been found:

    1) Where, or from whom did the Ukrainians learn about the time “X”?
    Was the information obtained using technical means of intelligence, or was it obtained in a way that’s “turning a thousand years old this afternoon”? Were we able to plug the source of this leak?

    2) If we knew that they knew, why weren’t the targets adjusted?

    3) If we didn’t know that they knew, then why did we not know?

    4) If the enemy aircraft were withdrawn from under the strike in advance, does this mean that the rest of the troops and weapons, including air defense systems, were also withdrawn to prepared positions in the same way?

    5) Where and at what, in this case, were the anti-radar missiles fired?

    6) What was the real effectiveness of the first strike?

    The answers to these, as well as many other rhetorical questions, and most importantly, the conclusions from these answers, is the key to our victory.

    So apparently the Ukrainian Airforce knew in advance about the SMO on February 24. I would bet that not only did the information about the attack come from the CIA, but also the instructions to hide/shelter the Ukrainian Airforce also came from CIA/Nato. This was all part of the Nato strategy to provoke a Russian attack, play it for maximum media propaganda purposes, yet preserve as much military hardware a possible.

    The Finnish virtual barrier guard known as j2 has been writing about how Russia failed to achieve air supremacy. There has been a continual stream of shooting down of Ukrainian SU’s and MIG’s. Now we know why. It was all part of Biden’s secret war in Ukraine.

  136. Hitch says:
    @Agentinslacks

    These are the same global warming hysteria weather modification tactics used on Paradise CA, Santa Rosa CA and Ventura CA just to name a few.

    The amount of media hysterics concerning the “heat wave” over Europe is unprecedented. As if 40C in the northern hemisphere in the middle of summer is “unprecedented”, yet all their heat maps show scorching bright red colors all across Europe. As the Covid narrative gets crushed, as the Vladolf Putler narrative crumbles, WEF is desperate to divert the attention of the stupid sheeple away from the never ending chain of great reset crisis that they are fabricating.

    Weather warfare is a reality. There are hundreds of internal and leaked documents proving it. The only reason anyone can possibly deny that weather modification and global warming mind control are a continual component of the fake narrative is pure ignorance.

    • Replies: @Hitch
    , @Agentinslacks
  137. They are meeting in Prague July 22-24 to decide how to carve up Russia. They even have a map…

    https://freenationsrf.org/en.html

    This was the map they passed around at the recent NATO meeting.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  138. @Veteran Aryan

    Ah yes, China’s well developed moral compunction.

    Ah yes, exactly; certainly in comparison to the Satanic jew-controlled West.

    Good one!

    I’m glad you agree with me.

  139. @Anonymous

    “The globalists took only a decade to transform Ireland— to empty out the churches, legalize gay marriage and abortion, and repopulate neighborhoods with Africans and Arabs”

    Yes – the changes that took 60 years in the UK took 20 in Ireland. I guess if you can conquer Britain, Ireland’s just a mopping up operation.

    But I’m still stunned when I see Sinn Fein, whose paramilitary wing used to shoot people because their forebears were immigrants 300 years ago, getting all lovey with strangers who’ve just got off the plane.

    • Agree: JM
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @JM
  140. @emerging majority

    Don’t you believe it is simply the TV stare? Haven’t you realized that most people look at far more things on screens than at any reality?

  141. @Curmudgeon

    Just to clarify what I meant by patience: Russia is not striving for a fast conclusion of the war at the risk of causing a wider conflagration or by risking heavy losses. Russia already lost the Moskova courtesy of American satellites giving the exact coordinates of the ship when it was sunk by the Ukrainians. The Russian patience traditionally meant taking every advantage of nature to minimize Russian losses. Hence when Napoleon started his withdrawal he was simply harassed by the Cossacks cavalry and left to rot under the onslaught of the Russian winter. The leadership of the Russian army refused to engage the Grande Armee until the French retreating forces were about to cross the Berezina river which was bombed causing the breaking ice to sink many battalions in the cold water while preventing the French retreat westward.

    Currently the Russians are depending on the artillery to soften the Ukrainian defense lines as their main offensive weapon while limiting air and sea operations to a minimum to avoid detection by western reconnaissance. This strategy will cause the war to drag longer but it will minimize Russian losses.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Miro23
    , @Wielgus
  142. mikey says:
    @Hitch

    I’m surprised that we haven’t heard of Russian bounties on contractors and foreign soldiers. They’re following illegal orders and pretty much deserve what happens to them.

  143. @Biding

    Spammer. I’ve seen this quote on multiple articles.

  144. @Smashed Squash

    The Czechs should be made to pay a very high price for hosting that forum.

  145. @PseudoCryptic

    That’s why it simply will not happen because it would be an indescribably stupid move on the part of NATO.

    Repeat after me: NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

    indescribably stupid move

    You just described Pooland. Read history again and despair, and rejoice at the ousting of the perfidious Poolacken.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  146. Lysias says:

    A commenter on Moon of Alabama claimed recently (within the past 24 hours) that a 30-year old (former?) U.S. Navy lieutenant/pilot just died in Ukraine. Why would a 30-year-old O3 leave the Navy? This reminds me of how in 1941 Army Air Force pilots “resigned” from the Army to fly in the Flying Tigers for Nationalist China. Then, after Pearl Harbor, when the US officially joined the war, those Flying Tigers rejoined the Army Air Force, and the time they spent in the Flying Tigers was credited as Army Air Force service.

    • Thanks: Rev. Spooner
  147. @HateSpeechEnjoyer

    I see the American ruling class as being much like the Japanese military caste before WW2. When we stopped shipping them oil, they saw it as an existential threat to their own place on the top, so they would take any risk, such as bombing Pearl Harbor, to dodge the bullet they saw coming their way.
    In a just world, every supporter of affirmative action, of off-shoring industry, of mass immigration, of the homo mania, and every other evil, would be behind bars at the minimum. They will risk killing us all to avoid that.

  148. The current wars and chaos tormenting humanity are the fault of warmongering small hats using Magic Negros and GlobalHomo variants of 2SLGBTQQIAHP+ (Two Spirit, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Beastiality, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual people, Hemorphadytes and Pedophiles. + added to cover the overlooked), and Holocaust Survivor Hysteria to mask their 2030 One World Agenda.

    The longer they keep us masked, the fewer identified enemies among us.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  149. @Hitch

    “ To me a far more logical explanation is that Putin is merely playing his assigned role.”

    You raise some very important points here to which I or most commentators are ill equipped to contest. I have felt a sense of indignation when Putin renewed the mandate of Russia’s Central Bank governor Nabiulina after the west managed to confiscate hundreds of billions of Russian assets. But when I saw, to my amazement, how the Russian Rouble bounced back, I had to give Putin the benefit of the doubt.

    But then I believe Putin when he declared the objective of his SMO was to free the Russian speaking regions of Ukraine without intending a wider conflict or the annexation of this basket case of a country of Ukraine. Are Putin and Medvedev playing good cop/bad cop to try to maximize the political momentum through a military lever and vice versa; after all a smart foreign policy never takes war as an ultimate goal but rather as the continuation of diplomacy by other means.

    The second Rome known as Constantinople of Byzantium lasted more eleven centuries by a skillful mix of war and diplomacy and avoided the pitfalls of imperial overstretch with the burden of war leading to the ultimate collapse of the empire the way it is currently happening in the USA. I think Putin will never give up on reaching for a peaceful resolution to the conflict despite the nonexistent chances so far from the Western PTBs to respond in kind. This is frustrating many Russians within his administration and among the Russian public, and if Putin is no more in charge for whichever reason, the Russian equivalent of US neocons will be his likely successors. Then we should not expect the moderating effect of a nostalgic Putin who is keen on saving Kiev for having been the origin of the Russ until it’s destruction by the Mongols in 1240 to be replaced by Moscow ( just notice the effects of the Russian SMO on Kiev with respect to preserving energy, communications and water facilities and contrast them with the American push in Baghdad) but by a Russian administration that would not hesitate to burn Kiev to the ground if push comes to shove.

    The only chance to save the world from WWIII is a popular uprising by the Western population that cleans the European corridors of power from the agents and the influence of the WEF and the Judeo-Masonic intrigues, short of which the world could experience a hot war soon with its effects lingering from one to two decades to come.

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @Hitch
  150. @Philip Giraldi

    Any updates on Ghislaine Maxwell, Phil? You haven’t written about her in a while.

    • Replies: @mcohen
  151. How to explain all the enthusiasm of young Anglo-
    Americans (“wehraboos”) for the German military
    struggle for survival against the Jewish world po-
    wer of disembodying mindless consumerism?

    They identify with it! They also want a strong
    leader who will finally unite them and call them
    to fight, instead of continuing to lead a meaning-
    less dishonorable dreary existence as “consumers”
    and watching helplessly as the Jews who have sei-
    zed their countries destroy their entire future!

  152. @Briggs

    I never respond to such lunacy for obvious reasons…it is lunatic and I might get infected. Such lunacy is just this side of hijacking a plane and spreading bacteria over Africa

    But look here Briggs etc., I did not come looking for you, never did…in all the centuries before nor after 1492. It was the other way around. I dont even want to know! There is absolutely nothing I want from white epople least of al from an insanity like you

    Wtach at Europe if you have the time in your life once Africa cathces itself once again and stop the rip off! Poor cold, resource -less Europe falls again into obsecurity

    Any accurate history of the human species establishes me, BLACK! as non-warlike, creative, foundational and ingenious, self reliant and independent. You came, you saw you hijacked, enslaved, reduced..did not build up and improved but destroyed and impoverished

    Look at the world you have made over the last 5 centuries. I had nutten to do with that! I did not genocide nor holocaust, racist and atomic bombed! Depopulate, and sowed pandemics one after the other. I did not make vaxx to depopulate…depopulating as we speak. ALL OF THAT AND SO MUCH MORE IS ALL YOU! ALL OF THAT STUFF IN THE WORLD IS SIMPLY YOU!

    I would love to make a deal with you…and all the rest of you: I will take Africa back – kick you out! You dont want to be with the shitskins anyway! and you can have the rest of the world…all of it. I will put up a blocking algorithm so you won’t even know we are there ever anymore.

    You have no idea how much I would like not to have known you, and to be rid of you for ever more! And Ron Unz should indeed insist that indeed you take your medicine before you try create a comment, strive for some sanity so as not to embarrass yourself and his board

    • Replies: @Pop Warner
    , @Colleen
  153. @Hitch

    I’m uninformed about weather modification tech except very generally. I know for a fact though that arson is implicated in wildfires more than media ever admits except rarely long after the fact.
    I’m not as confident as you that Global warming is entirely a hoax. I think it might be being used as an excuse though to let coastal cities rot though under the pretext that they are doomed due to sea level rise.

    I also think Joe Manchin is a large, revolting insect who should undergo sex change by high voltage electric current. We can rename him Joe Bitchin.

    The carbon trading scheme is straight out of the learned elders though, complete swindle.

    • Replies: @Hitch
    , @emerging majority
  154. Franz says:
    @Harold Smith

    If Trump wanted better relations with Russia, he would’ve made it happen.

    My goof.

    I should have said “People VOTED for Trump because he SAID he wanted that. And he was a pussy about everything else too.

    But it comes out the same. Anybody doing what zog don’t want done gets nowhere. One of these days somebody serious might try. Expect another lone nut killer.

  155. Phibbs says:

    I used to be in the U.S. military, but I would fight with Russia against American terrorists in military uniforms — or out of them — anytime. I am so hoping Russia will sink every U.S. Navy boat, shoot down every air force plane, and level every American terrorist military base. The Israeli-Occupied Government in Washington D.C. then needs to be razed by patriots with bulldozers. Finally, every Jew in this country needs to be rounded up and summarily executed. Then, maybe, America can be saved.

  156. @DaveE

    You are more correct than you likely comprehend. I say so having studied deeply their most obscure coded texts over the centuries and unfortunately knowing some all to well directly. They specifically raised certain children with a savage revenge motive in mind for when they take over, which they have. The Protocols are too accurate not to have been the distillation of highly professional secret police and interior ministries of European dynasties – infiltration, observation, deduction, corellation etc. But forget the protocols, valuable brilliancy that it is. It’s far more serious, as you clearly understand.

    Abraham and “Isaac.” I Sac – sacrifice. Satan receives tutorials from these demons.

  157. Hitch says:
    @Joe Levantine

    The only chance to save the world from WWIII is a popular uprising by the Western population that cleans the European corridors of power from the agents and the influence of the WEF and the Judeo-Masonic intrigues

    This will only come about after the \$ loses its “reserve currency” status and the US Empire finally has to live within its means. This is the real reason we have all these wars, all these terrorist attacks, all these mass murders, and all these “wild fires”.

    The sheeple will be unable to wake up from their deep narrative slumber unless physical pain and suffering forces them to. It is highly unfortunate that this level of suffering is necessary. In many ways the entire planet is in the midst of a repeat of Weimar Germany, except globally. This is why it is so difficult to get the US dollar to collapse, because there is no where else for all the real wealth to escape to. This is why has been a continual globalist war against gold since Bretton Woods.

    Until the planet, or at least the “west”, reaches its Weimar moment the central bankers will simply continue to be able to create more debt based money to paper over all the corruption and defects in the system.

    • Thanks: annamaria
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  158. Hitch says:
    @Agentinslacks

    I’m not as confident as you that Global warming is entirely a hoax.

    I am not certain that “Global warming is entirely a hoax”. I am not certain the AGW is a hoax either.

    Climate gate was proof that the same media that presented completely warped and biased coverage of the conflict in Ukraine, the “Covid” pandemic, the “safe and effective vaccines” is also deceiving the public about “global warming”. Simply the way the narrative changed from global cooling to global warming to climate change to climate disruption should be proof that those producing the narrative cannot be trusted. Of course those paying attention know that the Rothschilds bought out weather central and the weather channel, and have been trading in weather derivatives. Hence all the fake weather events.

    We also have proof that the US military has already used weather warfare in the past (operation popeye) and even brags about its capability today. Dozens of multiple megawatt Nexrad and Haarp stations strung across the planet should also be proof that something is going on.

    So even if there is “global warming” going on, until we can pry their claws off of the neck of world media we cannot trust anything they say. Precisely the same viewpoint is required when approaching the MSM narrative about Ukraine.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
  159. @Joe Levantine

    In the current shitshow, I think that Russia was in a no win situation. Had they waited for the planned Ukrainian offensive to attack the newly recognized republics, then responded to the request for help, the carnage would likely have been much greater, as I believe they would likely have used the US style of flattening Kiev and other parts of Ukraine. They may have been forced to go all in. The Special Operation, on the other hand is a natural for the “patience” you describe. It is interesting that the self described “old Cold Warrior” Paul Craig Roberts sees the Special Operation as a tactical mistake, because the psychopaths in DC see it as a sign of weakness encouraging them to ramp up the provocations, making a nuclear war more possible. Quickly turning Ukraine into a parking lot is the only thing the nut-jobs in DC would understand.
    As an aside, I recall reading an article at the time that suggested that the loss of the Moskova was a symbolic loss, as the ship was well past its best before date.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
  160. TheMoon says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Biden is, maybe, deciding the flavor of his afternoon pudding cup. That’s about it. Everything else is the shadow government that pulled off the steal with assists from everyone in D.C.

  161. TheMoon says:
    @Cking

    We have no political representation.

  162. TheMoon says:
    @anonymous

    Why wouldn’t Iran just put their nuke in a shipping container?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  163. Miro23 says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Currently the Russians are depending on the artillery to soften the Ukrainian defense lines as their main offensive weapon while limiting air and sea operations to a minimum to avoid detection by western reconnaissance. This strategy will cause the war to drag longer but it will minimize Russian losses.

    That seems right. It’s the picture that emerges from the excellent Military Summary Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUnc496-PPmFZVKlYxUnToA Also the last few months have been a necessary learning experience for the Russians regarding operational use of advanced NATO systems. NATO has been preparing the Ukrainian military for this event for years. The Russians need time to reflect on and adjust to these systems.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
  164. Daniel H says:
    @JimDandy

    Do Neocons have children? Do Neocons love their children?

    Whatever, they loathe your children.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  165. @Ben Sampson

    I would love to make a deal with you…and all the rest of you: I will take Africa back – kick you out!

    Deal. How long do you need to pack your bags?

    • Thanks: Briggs
    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
    , @anon
  166. @Hitch

    Yes the old lies continue. Made in Russia: The Holocaust
    https://cwporter.com/mirthsmall.pdf
    The Stalin to Putin “Great Patriotic War” and the phony Ukro Nazi narrative that supports it is nauseating.

  167. @HeebHunter

    I am sure it was on this site that I saw a poster comment that stepping on rakes was a favourite Polish pastime.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  168. JWalters says:
    @Z-man

    “of the times as they were”, and still are.

    • Agree: Z-man
  169. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Ireland today…



    Video Link

    Sad, Ireland abandoned God, went prostrate for globalism, and lost its soul and its land.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Reverend Goody
  170. JimDandy says:
    @Daniel H

    Their kids’ skin melts, too.

  171. Kooks for Nukes. We’re all expendable and acceptable collateral damage.

  172. @Mr. Hack

    So if water filters do remove chlorine, as you suggest, may it be said that they also are efficacious against fluoride. A molecular chemist may have some info input on that.

    On a personal basis, though I’m currently residing in a small town with fluoridated water (it seems to leave a black scum in the toilet bowl), I do have access to well water. Perhaps it will not be long before controlled states such as Minnesota (the Land of Sky Blue Waters and ten thousand lakes) will ban well-water through the State Department of Health.

    With the exception of spring water, undiluted and not “fortified”, there are two kinds of water available to most Americans: Well water and Sick water. Unfortunately, most Americans only manage to access the sick shit. So thanks for the info on mineral water for those who can no longer trust most bottled water and have no access to real water.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  173. It has also been reported that British SAS commandos are actually guarding President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    A foreign bodyguard is an admission that you fear your own people more than the enemy.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  174. @Agentinslacks

    Check out Dane Wiginton’s website on weather modification. He has been sounding the tocsin on this tragedy for many years. My informed supposition is that he and his associates are the most knowledgeable private individuals on this topic. He has a fascinating backlog of postings and information, including videos and interviews.

  175. Kapyong says:
    @emerging majority

    Consider the poor deluded Aussies, all enamored with Fosters, steak and soccer.

    Crikey !

    Aussies don’t drink Fosters, few bottle shops or hotels stock it. It’s for export to gullible tasteless foreigners.

    Soccer is rated sport number 5-7 by some measures, and below 10th by participation.

    Did you learn about Australia from The Simpsons or something ?

  176. Mr. Hack says:
    @emerging majority

    Since you seem to truly appreciate the power of political cartoons and may live somewhere nearby you might want to visit the fabulous Russian Museum of Art in Mpls, where they’re currently hosting an exhibit that showcases such fare called “SAY NO TO WAR: POLITICAL CARTOONS BY UKRAINIAN AND RUSSIAN ARTISTS” A preview:


    Dmitry Skazhenik, Ukraine.
    Russian warships


    Oleh Smal, Ukraine
    There and Back

    [MORE]


    Serhii Fedko, Ukraine
    Death and Refugees

    • Troll: Olivier1973
    • Replies: @emerging majority
  177. Chris Moore says: • Website

    It has also been reported that British SAS commandos are actually guarding President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    ((Zelensky)), you mean. And fitting, given that the Anglo Empire elite have been bodyguarding the ((Jew)) moneymen and method actors since the Victorian era.

    They’re going to fight to the last Anglo plebe (let alone Ukrainian rube) for the Zionist racket. It’s their imperious “chosen” right to spill the blood of millions to line their royal pockets, doncha know?

    • Agree: Z-man
  178. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    There were rumors of American and European “advisers” and mercenaries among the besieged gone to ground under the Azovstal steelworks. After the mass surrender, we heard nothing much about them, whether they existed or not, and what their fates were. There was speculation that among the men were higher-ups from the US military and intel agencies.

    It’s possible some of these men were captured during the surrender and are now incarcerated somewhere in Ukraine or Russia, awaiting war crimes trials to be held in Ukraine where the death penalty still exists.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  179. “• Disagree: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • LOL: Z-man”

    Make your case.

    And please avoid the rather weak tea advocacy about the Rand strategy. Most countries invite long term grand strategies for implementation against their enemy as well as the same to improve relations

    neither is evidence of policy. It is absolutely accurate that the Europeans and many thinkers , politicians thought Russia a threat and sought to contain their supposed aggression. But Russia and China and others have their own agendas and see the US as a problem and act accordingly

    none of that by does not mean provocation

    Russia’s former colonies are seeking their own way, and are doing so with or without western aide.
    ————————————————

    As for the previous executive, I hate to remind but he sign onto the intel report that indicted Russia for interfering in the US and European elections, increased the sanctions, murder and attempted murder. Any suggestion that he could foster better relations after throwing Pres Putin under the bus is far fetched.

    And now that the Kremlin has invaded another country, threatened to spread the conflict and engage in nuclear exchange . . . nearly anything and everything he did in that direction would seriously undermine his leadership.

    A provocation would be something such as Bostonians dressing up as native Americans and dumping tons of Tea into Boston Harbor.

  180. @Mr. Hack

    Sorry. Not to my taste. You seem to have things bass-ackwards. Watch Mainscream Media much?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @RobinG
  181. Keep harping away at that mournful tune. Russia did not “invade” Ukraine. They finally got up the gumption to protect Mama Bear’s cubs from a looming mass genocidal attack by troops trained and armed by the U\$\$A , the raggedy-assed old Lion and an assortment of water-carriers for the now rapidly declining financial empire centered in City of London and Wall \$treet.

    Additional support on behalf of the coup regime in Kiev by the rule by the Iron Fist folks, both more training and ultra-billions in armaments, drew Mama Bear deeper and deeper into the failed state being egged on to the last Ukrainian. Meanwhile, it’s leaders, such as Z with his multi-million \$\$\$ mansion in Florida, keep raking in the bucks Euros and Shekels.

    Why bother to keep on beating that dead-horse? Not very elite of you.

  182. @Pop Warner

    Are you packing yours you jackass…?

    I Dont have to pack anything! If you are serious, going to be honest and stick to your pledge, then kick me out! While you pack your bags and leave! You know…fold up your banks, corporations, parasitic racist immigrant enclaves, embassies and military bases etc,. and fuck off!

    That is all it would take…serious honest intent on your part, sticking to your word…putting your money where your mouth is

    We will have to sort out reparations for your centuries long criminality and rapine to us and our physical world…U cant walk away from centuries of rape scot free! You have a bill to pay and pay you must. Pay the bill! kick us out and we will have to go. Then you can stay away period.

    [MORE]

    But you cant afford to can u! U cant pay your bills! U trying to game me you broke MF’ing parasite! You got nothing if you cant continue to rape me and the rest of the darker ‘shitskin’ planet! You got nutten now! You cant pay your bills! I am looking at you cannabilizing yourselves now as the world is fed up with your parasitism and is looking for real dollars in payment from you.

    But you have no real dollars so you have made Fakedemic and REAL vaxx instead

    Look at you! You ordinary americans are so nasty you cant even save yourselves by doing the natural and right thing: Rise Up and Toss YOUR CANNIBALISTIC ELITES! REVOLUTIONIZE YOUR SOCIETY AND START AGAIN HONESTLY, IN SELF RELIANCE, SANELY, PROPERLY, BY FEEDING YOURSELVES AND STOP HARRASSING THE REST OF THE WORLD ATEALING ITS WEALTH…STEALING SHITSKIN WEALTH, GENOCIDE OF SHITSKINS AS YOUR WAY OF MAKING A LIVING

    I am looking at all you ordinary acist dogs here on the Unz unable to save America because of your nasty parasitism. IT IS YOUR HISTORICAL DUTY TO REVOLUTIONIZE YOUR SOCIETY WHEN IT REACHES A STAGE LIKE THISM SO YOU CAN EVOLVE PROERLY AND GO ON.

    YOU GUYS HERE ACTUALLY DO NOT WANT WHAT WOULD CLEAN UP THE WORLD, REVOLUTIONIZE SOCIETY AND SAVE YOUTOO! THAT IS WHY YOU WONT RISE UP. YOU WANT EXACTLY WHAT YOUR OLIGARCHS WANT..BUT YOUR OLIGARCHS DONT WANT YOU. THEY WANT ALL FOR THEMSELVES AND THEY ARE AFRAID THAT ONE DAY YOU WILL TAKE IT ALL FROM THEM. SO THEY ARE GING TO KILL YOU TOO WHIE THEY CAN..IF THEY CAN

    HAHAHAHA! Michael Hudson knows all of you guys inside out. Hudson said you all are mafia, criminal from the start…thousands of years of anti-social, corupt, criminal behaviour. Hudson said you have no future because you cant do what is right. It is not in your DNA!

    See How Briggs behaved today! That is you all with the any and all civil wrappers removed

  183. @Tundra

    Forget Europe exists. It has nothing to offer America.

  184. @Buck Ransom

    Apparently Azov executed and incinerated them before surrendering themselves. Maybe some managed to surrender to the Russians before this date befell them.

  185. @Wizard of Oz

    This sort of LUNATIC projection and re-writing of both history and the present is universal in the moral sewer that is Austfailian public life. It is hard to think of any State in history more groveling in its allegiance to an Imperial Moloch than Austfailia is to that dying Behemoth, the USA.
    Contrary to Wizz’s loony tune, the USA rates minus 100 on ANY ranking of true ‘civilization’. This is a regime that has initiated 80% of major post WW2 armed conflicts, and that has interfered, ALWAYS maliciously, in scores of countries, many ‘democracies’, over the decades, mostly, as Chomsky et al noted, to destroy any Government that promotes the interests of its own population before those of US investors.
    This is a monster that murdered four million in Korea, carpet-bombing the country and using biological warfare. That dropped the only two A-bombs used, on defenceless people, in Japan. That gave sanctuary to one of the greatest monsters of history, Shiro Ishii, of Unit 731 infamy, he of vivisection ie live dissection, of humans, including children, in return for his bio-warfare ‘research’.
    The same country murdered four million more in Indochina, and enacted the greatest chemical warfare attack, and ecocide, against Indochina’s forests, land and internal waterways. That supplied death-lists to the butcher, and their puppet, Suharto, as he slaughtered two million peasants in Indonesia in 1965. And that has been allied with the brutal Wahhabist savages of Saudi Arabia since the 40s, and created al-Qaeda and Daesh in league with them.
    That, of course, barely scratches the surface of US barbarity abroad, and meanwhile, at home, the richest State in history is riven with poverty, misery, ever growing inequality, elite greed and wealth, with rivers of urine and faeces flowing in big city streets from ever burgeoning armies of the homeless. And this is the regime that unleashed SARS CoV2 on the planet in a biowarfare attack on China.
    In contrast Russia, for all its faults, seems a Shining City on the Hill, and one, at last, fighting for its life against the Yankee cancer and its Ukronazi metastasis. And China represents NO threat to us, unless we join, like the slavish running-dogs that our ‘leaders’ certainly are, in attacking China. Then we will get our just desserts for the villainous race-hatred of the likes of the Wizz. You’ll feel the full measure of your White Man’s Burden then, you old scrote.

  186. @Wizard of Oz

    Ukraine a ‘successful’ ‘non-authoritarian’ State?? Cripes, Wizz-you’ve gone full barking. Seeing your Ukronazi idols flogged has disturbed the balance of your mind-more than heretofore, that is. Ukraine is the most corrupt State in Europe, its economy moribund, its exports mostly wheat and whores, a Mecca for organised crime, and opposition parties banned and their leaders arrested, its MSM mostly run by the BBC, and numerous news organs simply forcibly closed down. I guess that is your idea of ‘success’. The El Salvador, 1982, model.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  187. Charles says:
    @Briggs

    Don’t mince words; say what you really believe : )

  188. Altai says:

    The revelations that Canadian spec ops were in Ukraine (Along with US, British, French and Lithuanian at the least) made the sudden disappearance of a very high ranking Canadian general who was about to be confirmed as the new head of the Canadian army to Ukraine to ‘volunteer’ for some supposed international brigade to escape being MeToo’d after serious allegations he raped a female classmate at officer school during the confirmation process, take on a very different light.

    It’s astonishing that a general that senior is just openly fighting in Ukraine. It’s even more suspect given that this guy was hardly anonymous but was allowed to leave the country despite being in the middle of a very serious legal case. Almost like the Canadian military made him an offer…

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/retired-canadian-general-under-police-investigation-for-alleged-sexual-misconduct-is-now-in-ukraine

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/15/canada-charges-ex-general-fighting-in-ukraine-with-sexual-assault

    The Russians are rumoured to have captured him by the way but there is no official confirmation. Though it’s notable that he hasn’t been heard from since the Azovstal siege.

    The other thing that worries me are Poland and Lithuania’s repeated efforts to escalate things and get the US/NATO to fight Russia for them directly from within the proxy war. It’s like a proxy war inception.

    • Replies: @Beavertales
  189. @RobinG

    Crooke is essential reading for his perceptiveness and urbanity in a western world held in thrall to shekels.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  190. anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheMoon

    Wouldn’t it be relatively easy to track a nuclear weapon put into a shipping container? How would attack by shipping container work in a crisis or war situation where the nuclear weapon needed to be delivered instantly?

  191. Mr. Hack says:
    @emerging majority

    No, not as much a you seem to watch. You really should get out once in a while and expand your cultural vistas. Go in to the Cities and get some culture, visit the Russian Museum of Art.

  192. JM says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    But I’m still stunned when I see Sinn Fein, whose paramilitary wing used to shoot people because their forebears were immigrants 300 years ago, getting all lovey with strangers who’ve just got off the plane.

    I made that observation years’ ago – along with their love of poofterism and all the rest of the perversions, even sent them an email along those lines – with no reply of course. I’m yet to see a bullshitting Mick make it. Just blame the “Freemasons/Jews” – meaning largely the Proddies. The latter is more than a low IQ issue as this dereliction is also a part of the Irish “Anti-Globalists” world view. Maybe they’re intimidated by the terrorists or is it something far more organic and sicker?

  193. @mulga mumblebrain

    A quick skim takes me to something I can almost wholly agree with though your ridiculous airs of certainty get in the way. (Try listening to last night’s segment of my old lefty friend Phillip Adams’s Late Night Live which featured an interview with Anee Applebaum. She gave a very good example by not asserting things she wasn’t competent to know about.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  194. anon[870] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pop Warner

    A shitbird like Ben Sampson would never leave the US. You can take it to the bank that no country in Africa will take him. Benny thinks whites are bad but in Africa tribal conflict is worse. What tribe will he belong to ? Since the answer is none the Niggers there would chew him up. Afro Americans always seem to think that because they are black that the Africans are their Bros. Not so. The African thinks Afro Americans are pieces of shit.

    Even the executives of BLM and Black Race Hustlers can barely stand them or bear to live among them.

    As for his braying about reparations, if all the whites left the US there would be none as Blacks are worthless. Without Whitey the US would descend into the hellhole that is Africa.

    There are four or five monkeys like Benny here on UR but not a single one would pack up and go back to Africa. What do the blacks on that continent have to offer their lazy asses. There aint no perks and free handouts there !! Besides, Africans are lining up to come to the US.

    And so assholes like Sampsom bark but thats about it. As long as we keep listening to their claptrap they will continue to be blowhards. The fact is as time goes by even their own seem to be coming to their senses and ignoring their constant oral dysentery.

    • Agree: Briggs
  195. @mulga mumblebrain

    How feeble. Of course Ukraine is not a successful state of any kind now. So you can obviously read my “is” to refer, without being unidiomatic, to what – as many have opined – would be the case if Russians couldn’t help noticing that a more or less functioning democracy was an alternative for East Slavs.

    And I am not asserting that it is necessarily Putin’s main problem with Ukraine which seems to reside in his fantasy version of history and his imperial dreams.

    • Troll: Harold Smith
  196. “Chuck Orloski, Harold Smith”

    Never at a loss of amazement for the depth of response. need a better example of provocation here ya go

    Russia refusing to withdraw and mandated by the Minsk Accords, not only a provocation, but a violation of the intent of the accords that Russia claims Ukraine refuses assent to. Russia escalated the tensions in the disputed regions in Ukraine. Creating a Catch 22

    that’s called provocation

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @GMC
  197. @IronForge

    Yes, qualified by the extent that they buy goods and services locally.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  198. It has also been reported that British SAS commandos are actually guarding President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    Or is it the commandos’ role to ensure that Zelensky does not sneak out of Dodge, but instead remains onsite to greet visiting royalty like Nancy Pelosi, Boris Johnson, Bono, Angelina Jolie and all the rest?

    They also need to keep him on the set in his green undershirt to continue making his video pleas for megabillion\$ in funds to be run through the Ukrainian laundromat.

  199. Quote: “Retired US Air Force Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, a former analyst for the US Department of Defense, observes that deploying plausibly deniable non-uniformed personnel “is completely typical of the initial stages of a US-backed long war, and for long-term political manipulation of the target country” end quote from this article….

    ASIDE: Your one brave and honorable gal..how strange that the odor of cordite was detected in the halls of the pentagon on 911. I did not know commercial jets were authorized to transport high explosives under passenger seating? hummm my nose detects some rats behind the scenes here.

    I beg to differ with the colonel. Current global debt, this includes derivatives and unsecured liabilities is estimated to be approximately three quadrillion USD. There is ZERO probability the United States can continue to print fake money like it did during the Afghan war, without initiating a total collapse of the federal reserve banking system and simultaneously sparking uncontrollable hyperinflation throughout the world. No combined effort(s) of western Occident Intel agencies and or their paramilitary associates can delay or stop the reality of hard economic market forces so clearly defined by Ludwig von Mises and Murray N. Rothbard, who’s economic theories are preserved at the Mises Institute- a Libertarian organization (well, they were spot on about some aspects of economics)

    The Ukraine-Crimea crises will either bring the G-20 together to hammer out a new basket of currencies (backed by commodities-not rewarmed fiat crap ) OR a devastating, nuclear war will surely commence. The world has less than six months to voluntarily commit suicide or submit to social democracy everywhere. Alas, knowing the depths of greed and their thirst for world domination among the American five thousand elite (not to mention a few embedded psychotic behaviors) this blue marble is about to become a black cinder ball …So, my fellow Americans! sing the Andrews sisters song along with me ..roll out the barrel we’ll have a barrel of fun, Zing BOOM tararrel ! ….It’s a big surprise they’re waiting for !

  200. RobinG says:
    @emerging majority

    Thanks. He is, indeed, a hack. [And the Elite nincominc.poop as well.]

    But does Mpls stand for Minneapolis? Shame on them if those are representative: they’re not anti-War, just anti-Russian.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  201. more examples of provocative conduct . . .

    Russia claiming Ukraine is not a country

    Russia mocking the Ukrainian Pres because of his faith and practice or being jewish

    Russia’s claims that the so referenced Nazi Bns were a threat to Russia

    Claiming Ukraine is corrupt or decadent

    • Replies: @Passing By
  202. Hitch says:

    This is quite an interesting Telegram message that explains so much about global politics today. The Nato “summit” in Madrid where the leaders of Japan, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand were invited was when Nato truly jumped the shark. Anyone still bitterly clinging to Nato’s pretension that it is a “defensive” alliance is a blithering idiot.

    Robin Monotti + Dr Mike Yeadon + Cory Morningstar

    [MORE]

    The critical event that likely triggered the process leading to Abe’s assassination was the NATO summit in Madrid (June 28-30).

    “The NATO summit was a moment when the hidden players behind the scenes laid down the law for the new global order. NATO is on a fast track to evolve beyond an alliance to defend Europe and to become an unaccountable military power, working with the Global Economic Forum, the billionaires and the bankers around the world, as a “world army,” functioning much as the British East India Company did in another era.

    The decision to invite to the NATO summit the leaders of Japan, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand was a critical part of this NATO transformation.

    These four nations were invited to join in an unprecedented level of integration in security, including intelligence sharing (outsourcing to big tech multinationals), the use of advanced weapons systems (that must be administrated by the personnel of multinationals like Lockheed Martin), joint exercises (that set a precedent for an oppressive decision-making process), and other “collaborative” approaches that undermine the chain of command within the nation state.

    When Kishida returned to Tokyo on July first, there can be no doubt that one of his first meetings was with Abe. Kishida explained to Abe the impossible conditions that the Biden administration had demanded of Japan.

    The White House, by the way, is now entirely the tool of globalists like Victoria Nuland (Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs) and others trained by the Bush clan.

    The demands made of Japan were suicidal in nature. Japan was to increase economic sanctions on Russia, to prepare for possible war with Russia, and to prepare for a war with China. Japan’s military, intelligence and diplomatic functions were to be transferred to the emerging blob of private contractors gathering for the feast around NATO.

    Abe’s death parallels closely that of Seoul’s mayor Park Won Sun, who went missing on July 9th, 2020, exactly two years before Abe’s assassination. Park took steps in Seoul City Hall to push back on the COVID-19 social distancing policies that were being imposed by the central government. His body was found the next day and the death was immediately ruled a suicide resulting from his distress over charges of sexual harassment by a colleague.”

    The Assassination of Archduke Shinzo Abe

    Only then did the body guards seize the suspect, Yamagami Toruya, who was standing behind Abe. The tussle with Yamagami took the form of a choreographed dance for the television audience, not a professional takedown.

    Yamagami was immediately identified by the media as a 41-year-old former member of the Maritime Self-Defense Force who had personal grievances with Abe.

    Yamagami told everything to the police without hesitation. He did not even try to run from the scene and was still holding the silly hand-made gun when the bodyguards grabbed him.

    Even after Abe was lying on the pavement, not a single person in the crowd ran for shelter, or even looked around to determine where the shots came from. Everyone seemed to know, magically, that the shooting was over.

    Perhaps the message was lost on viewers at home, but it was crystal clear for other Japanese politicians. For that matter, the message was clear for Boris Johnson, who was forced out of power at almost exactly the same moment that Abe was shot, or for Emanuel Macron, who was suddenly charged with influence peddling scandal for Uber, and faces demands for his removal from office, on July 11—after months of massive protests had failed to sway him in any way.

    The message was written all over Abe’s white shirt in red: buying into the globalist system and promoting the COVID-19 regime is not enough to assure safety, even for the leader of a G7 nation.

  203. @HeebHunter

    “A country cannot be propped up by welfare or gay trannies mulatto mercenaries forever.”

    Sounds a lot like Canada!

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  204. SOL says:
    @Levtraro

    Ben Stiller can run in 2024 to replace Biden.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  205. Colleen says:
    @emerging majority

    Well, Australia is not a Dominion, it’s a Commonwealth, whatever that means. It could mean that the magnificent natural resources and WEALTH of Australia is held in COMMON with the rest of the coloured and kike world, because in point of fact, that’s what actually happens.

    Australians never rest in giving away their wealth to others in different forms, like Foreign Aid, tax rebates to Foreign Charities, participating in Foreign Wars, allowing FOREIGNERS to buy up their businesses and real estate, exporting our prime food resources to Foreigners, etc, etc.

    It started when the English methodically raped the country, but that was fair I suppose, because they colonised the place. But then it was the Americans do it, and nearly every other I’ll begotten race on earth, so now, it can be called gang rape.

    Aussie don’t care, or at least the won’t until they are actually starving and enslaved. The most short sighted people in history.

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  206. @Hitch

    Wonderfully analyzed. The moment of truth will come sooner or later. What a pity there has to be so much suffering until humanity start seeing the first rays of light out of this darkest of ages. Meanwhile the zombie populations of the West will go about their usual survival endeavors oblivious to all the machination of the predator classes dutifully buying the global warming hoax like the French imbecile whose barely thirty years old who decided to get sterilized to alleviate the pressure on the environment or the other colored Frenchman who confessed that he finally trashed his skepticism about the global warming narrative after seeing the wild fires all over Europe.

    Brave New World indeed.

  207. GMC says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    No clue what Planet or Mid East big nose country you’ve been living in, but everyone that lives in Ukraine, Donbas, Crimea, Belarus, Moldova and especially Russia , understands that Cookies Nuland, Geof PyRat, John McCain, Mombasa Obama, Brandon Biden and the rest of the Tel Aviv / Washington Girlz Club were working in Kiev since 2010 at least.. Not to mention the awake people you mentioned and the millions more who can see that your hilarious comment is this article’s Joke of the Day.

    • Agree: acementhead
  208. Colleen says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Ben you said,
    “Any accurate history of the human species establishes me, BLACK! as non-warlike, creative, foundational and ingenious, self reliant and independent. You came, you saw you hijacked, enslaved, reduced..did not build up and improved but destroyed and impoverished”.

    But none of this true, Ben.
    May be “independent”, yes, but you Blacks enslaved each other for centuries, and sometimes sold your slaves off to the Jews and Arabs,whete you ended up in other lands.

    You and your ilk are a burden, because you cannot behave yourselves in civilized society. Go back to the land of your forefathers, and you will be happier.

    • Replies: @Anon
  209. @mulga mumblebrain

    Sorry, missed my point of approx agreement which was about China not being a threat apart from what is almost inherent in the difference in size of everything.

    I have since listened to three quite interesting YouTube videos on China which you might find interesting if you can recognise that there is a vast array of often practical business minded people interested in China who are quite different from some of those with a special interest in Russia. Certainly I see nothing of the Siophobia you are so quick to detect. It seems to me like attempts to understand China.

    Enjoy

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  210. @Wizard of Oz

    Oh, you mean the brothels and bars. Fond memories, eh Wizz.

  211. Anonymous[259] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Jeezus H. Chryst on a crutch, I hope those dumbass Polish girls showing their family photos to the two American spooks across the table do not think that any possible good will come to their country from taunting Russia and threatening to sic the daunting American “Big Red One” on them. As soon as any Nato country fires a shot at Russia, their missile battery targeting Moscow and the snazzy new base they’ve custom built for the Yanks will be rendered to smoldering ash, or green glass, as the case may be. And, frankly girls, a couple nice Russian boys would make better dates for you than those two young bucks you are flirting with.

  212. @Wizard of Oz

    Don’t ‘act’ stupid, Wizz. Ukraine has been a basket-case ever since the fascist coup organised by the USA in 2014. Putin’s problems with your fascist friends is that they deliberately, as Porkyshenko admitted, ignored the Minsk I & II ‘Agreements’, integrated Azov death-squad fascists throughout their Army, kept killing inhabitants of the Donbass, de facto joined NATO through training, equipment and the construction of defence infrastructure, planned to join NATO in full, ?elensky proposed re-nuclearising, declared that they would attempt to seize the Crimea back, despite the near universal opposition of Crimeans, indoctrinated their school-children in Russophobic hatred etc-for starters. Of course all Standard Operating Procedures for US puppet regimes, like, say, Austfailia, but Vlad has higher standards I’m glad to say.

    • Agree: JR Foley, acementhead
    • Disagree: Wizard of Oz
  213. @Wizard of Oz

    Are you actually INSANE, Wizz? I heard Applebaum’s braying insanities and Adams’ trade-mark groveling obsequiousness to any person of Jewish heritage and globalist bent. Applebaum, in my opinion, was both mendacious and hypocritical, and her ludicrous agit-prop was simply deranged. And to call forty year Murdoch apparatchik, Adams, a ‘Lefty’ is indicative of dementia boganensis.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  214. @EliteCommInc.

    Yeah, we know that you zionists find the Truth provocative and even antisemitic.

  215. Wielgus says:
    @Joe Levantine

    The Berezina was not frozen over. In late November it should have been but the weather conditions in 1812 were comparatively mild for the time of year. The French were forced to construct pontoon bridges as opposed to simply walking over a frozen river.

  216. @Elohim Kosher Bar

    I had a scare that made me jump off gab. I miss your content. We’ve had some deep conversations but I don’t want to identity this alias with that one. Glad to see you here.

    • Replies: @Elohim Kosher Bar
  217. Mr. Hack says:
    @RobinG

    they’re not anti-War, just anti-Russian.

    Russia’s the evil culprit in this war, so they’re appropriate images.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  218. Anon[848] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colleen

    Ben you said,
    “Any accurate history of the human species establishes me, BLACK! as non-warlike, creative, foundational and ingenious, self reliant and independent. You came, you saw you hijacked, enslaved, reduced..did not build up and creative, foundational and ingenious, self reliant and independent. You came, you saw you hijacked, enslaved, reduced..did not build up and improved but destroyed and impoverished” but destroyed and impoverished”.

    Colleen-people tooting their own horn, like Ben, are usually full of hot air, every pun intended. Ben is out of touch with reality both here in the US and in Africa. The fact is, slavery still exists in Africa.

    [MORE]

    As for all the adjectives used by this confused fellow, even the most naive and uninformed can safely peg it all as Ben’s Bullshit.

    ==Non warlike ? Blacks worldwide slaughter each other. 500K in the Rwanda massacres. Tribal conflict in Africa has changed little these days with grudges that go so far back no one remembers the reason.

    ==creative, foundational and ingenious? they still live in mud and cowshit houses with grass roofs.

    ==self reliant and independent? Right ! The West advances endless loans their dictators steal

    ==you hijacked, enslaved, reduced ? He must be talking about the slew of African dictators who have robbed their own countries blind. They live better than the Royal Family while their subjects live in filth, semi starvation, ignorance and unemployment.

    ==did not build up and improved but destroyed and impoverished ? Whites left a great continent with functioning infrastructure. Blacks, upon gaining independence destroyed it all. Ben should visit Africa to check this out. No, instead visit the black area in any US city and save the airfare.

    Blacks are the most useless race on earth, one level above monkeys. While Ben harps about the White Man, Africans are fleeing their hellholes headed for Europe and the US southern border.

    No way a useless twit like Ben will return to Africa. One in a million US blacks venture onto the continent and those that do get the shock of their lives at the economic and living conditions. Every single one can hardly wait for the return trip to White territory.

    I remember being at the airport in Cape Town and watching a group of mulattoes (ie 1/2 white) headed back to the US. They all wore T-shirts with the usual b/s mottos and slogans (raised fists,”we shall overcome” etc). In a casual conversation with them not a single one had gone into any of the Cape township slums. They had spent their time on the beaches and a seminar here and there at their exclusive hotel and a guided tour of Robbins Island. Yet, they would go back to the US and brag about their fight with and for the Brothers. The gullible in the US would swoon at their “commitment to the struggle”

    It was fashionable and cool to hang with and name drop Mandela and his crew, but not one of these people gave a shit about any of that. They would arrive back in the US to the adulation of their fellow ignorant blacks. In the meantime black South Africa and black Africa, ruled by blacks, is worse off now than ever before under any colonial power.

    Ben’s people !! Blacks think the White Man was bad, some think the tribal conflicts are bad but they aint seen nothing yet. The Chinese have their rulers by the balls and consider black Africans a grade below dog shit. If Africans think the Chinese are just going to walk away and concede the continent like the Whites did, then blacks must be delusional.

    There is no way Ben will return to Africa. He could not take the pay cut, the elimination of his perks and the tribalism. Ben will remain with the White Man because like it or not, we butter his bread. He may hate it but the reality is he is the House Nigga. They are race of parasites and moochers no matter the country or area they live in and Benny Boy is a proud member of the clique.

    • Thanks: W
    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  219. EugeneGur says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Of course Ukraine is not a successful state of any kind now. So you can obviously read my “is” to refer …to what – as many have opined – would be the case

    Ukraine has never been a successful state from day one and would never be. It tagged along with Russia until a bright idea entered into some Ukrainian head to detach that wagon from the Russian locomotive.

    Russians couldn’t help noticing that a more or less functioning democracy was an alternative for East Slavs.

    What the Russians couldn’t help noticing is forced ukrainization coupled with impoverishment. I remember quite well how in Lugansk – in the city that is close to 100% Russian – all city signs as well as the local TV stations were switched to Ukrainian. I asked the people what was the matter, and they said they were ordered to, otherwise they were fined. It was in 2006 or 2007. If this is any kind of functioning democracy” for you, you have the weirdest idea of democracy.

    Putin’s main problem with Ukraine which seems to reside in his fantasy version of history and his imperial dreams.

    Putin doesn’t seem to have any problem with Ukraine per se but with the Ukrainian Nazis and NATO. His version of history is entirely accurate. What Putin dreams of is known only to Putin.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  220. Lez says:

    This US-NATO-UK Ukrainian Proxy War on Russia is lost.
    The Russian Armed Forces, at some cost to themselves, have won the hearts and minds of The Ukrainian people.

    This Proxy War brings forth the collapse of The West.

    Examined here in some depth . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war

    and here . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war-b15

  221. @Curmudgeon

    Polish “jokes” are just the traditional wisdom of the elders.

  222. “No clue what Planet or Mid East big nose country you’ve been living in, but everyone that lives in Ukraine, Donbas, Crimea, Belarus, Moldova and especially Russia , understands that Cookies Nuland, Geof PyRat, John McCain, Mombasa Obama, Brandon Biden and the rest of the Tel Aviv / Washington Girlz Club were working in Kiev since 2010 at least.. Not to mention the awake people you mentioned and the millions more who can see that your hilarious comment is this article’s Joke of the Day.”

    Oy veh.

    I won’t rehash my perspective on our conduct in the region. But clearly as an actual real live country with an established sovereign territorial boundaries, the government of Ukraine is entitled to entertain whichever and whatever foreign persons and entities she so desires.

    The Russians can stew about it, they can be angry, they can even launch complaints but having no impact to the internal affairs by wy of intrusion –

    Russia’s invasion was a needless provacative act not only to Ukraine, but the other states who were former colonies of Russia, the region as a whole, Europe and even the US. Russia does not het to dictate who international dancing partners are or else

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  223. @anon

    What is worse is being an American who does think.. screaming into the hurricane about what is happening.. the only response: “Welcome to Costco. I love you!”

  224. @Mr. Hack

    Hack on behalf of the evil agenda all you wish. Klaus \$chwab would approve.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  225. Mr. Hack says:
    @emerging majority

    And destitute Putler would not? 🙂

    • Troll: Hitch
    • Replies: @emerging majority
  226. @EliteCommInc.

    I won’t rehash my perspective on our conduct in the region.

    Thanks for at least sparing us that.

    But clearly as an actual real live country with an established sovereign territorial boundaries, the government of Ukraine is entitled to entertain whichever and whatever foreign persons and entities she so desires.

    On the contrary, there is presently no “actual real live country with an established sovereign territorial boundaries (known as Ukraine).” To the extent there ever was such a (legitimate) geopolitical entity in the first place, that status came to an end by way of an unconstitutional coup in 2014.

    Russia’s invasion was a needless provacative act not only to Ukraine, but the other states who were former colonies of Russia, the region as a whole, Europe and even the US.

    On the contrary, due to the crimes being committed by the illegitimate “Ukrainian ‘government’” and its agents, and due to the manifest threats accumulating in the territory of Ukraine – against Russia – posed by the illegitimate “government” (e.g. NATO militarization, biowarfare laboratories), Russia had a duty to intervene, e.g. under the R2P doctrine.

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/09/ukraine-must-stop-ongoing-abuses-and-war-crimes-pro-ukrainian-volunteer-forces/

    Russia does not het to dictate who international dancing partners are or else

    Sure it does, under the circumstances, whether you jews like it or not.

    • Thanks: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  227. @Harold Smith

    How are you qualified to give authoritative opinions about matters of international law?

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  228. @EugeneGur

    Ukraine has never been a successful state from day one and would never be

    Ridiculous to say never could be. It had good natural resources, a better climate and less difficult ethnic diversity than , for example – the Russian Federation (which found it necessary to destroy one of its own cities to quell rebellion). Associated with the much richer EU it would obviously have been likely to prosper, and, following EU requirements, would have to have observed various principals which old be uncongenial to Putin.

    Your command of language seems to be defective. What you say were deficiencies in democracy in 2006 or 2007 could have no bearing on what Pitin might fear under the influence of changes due to EU association and/or membership (not NATO btw).

    As to Putin’s version of history apparently you just haven’t been listening. How about that it’s never been a proper country? (And Russia is?!!)

  229. Obviously Ukraine is a Jew controlled puppet that doesn’t need debating or questioned anyone can see it clearly, they even have one of their own in Zelensky leading the country but what about Russia? Russia seems to muddy the waters pretending to be Nationalist and pro-white while at the same time banning any sort of right wing opposition parties to United Russia. Also the Svengali of Putin, Dugin seems to be a sinister anti-white character who has claimed he prefers blacks to whites, said ‘blacks are Eurasian’ while attacking ‘racism’ and nationalism in Europe and comparing the Azov in Ukraine to Western Europeans ‘who oppose immigration, Islam and LGBT’ not exactly the sort of words a supposed Conservative would utter. Dugin’s Eurasianism also calls for one mixed Eurasian race which as Dugin claims Africans are Eurasian will also include blacks. How is this any different from Coudenhove-Kalergi? Are the Russians actually globalists dressed up as nationalists and anti-globalists?

  230. @Anon

    I dont understand you guys? Opportunity to get out of the situation and all you do is argue why it wont work , why you wont do it!

    Come on! All you argue is up to us to work out…our goddam business! Sink or swim, disapear entirely, pay cuts! What-the-hell-ever. None of your god damm business!

    Come! Lets decide what you owe, pay up –find real units of value and pay up! kick us out as we leave! Double up with emphasis to make sure all leave recalcitrants and all. And Stay away…period! please! absolutely! Stay away! Dont be involved! You have no more business with us.

    Eff off! Africa off limits now! For all save with whom we wish to relate!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Swaytonious
  231. “On the contrary, there is presently no “actual real live country with an established sovereign territorial boundaries (known as Ukraine).” To the extent there ever was such a (legitimate) geopolitical entity in the first place, that status came to an end by way of an unconstitutional coup in 2014.”

    I hate to break the news to you but even Russia recognizes Ukraine as a sovereign nation, despite the Kremlins long ago desired and lost boundaries when she was a colonial power in: Poland, Czechoslovak, Finland, Lithuania, Estonia, Armenia . . . etc. and Ohhh wait . . . Ukraine almost all have been walking and now running to get as far away from Russia as possible as insurance to their independence seeking entry into the EU and NATO. Even Ukraine and others are listed as sovereign entities in the OSCE.

    “On the contrary, due to the crimes being committed by the illegitimate “Ukrainian ‘government’” and its agents, and due to the manifest threats accumulating in the territory of Ukraine – against Russia – posed by the illegitimate “government” (e.g. NATO militarization, biowarfare laboratories), Russia had a duty to intervene, e.g. under the R2P doctrine.”

    Oyyy . . .

    It’s always hard to have to reteach, sigh . . . The OSCE has acknowledged that Russia herself has violated the standards by engaging in war crimes along with the rebels and Ukraine. Might want to do some homework on the OSCE. That is the international body that Russia has called upon to justify her aggression. There is one little problem —

    there is nothing that Russia has done that would commend them by the OSCE charter. In fact, regarding international relations among members, the OSCE rebuffs and and even outright contradicts Russian conduct. And her invasion, totally and completely in violation in philosophy and details.

    “Sure it does, under the circumstances, whether you jews like it or not.”

    I have been accused of a good deal of things, nearly all of which have absolutely nothing to with the issues or my comments on the subject. But according to this article there is no one consensus where jews stand on the matter. Some even support the invasion. And suggestion that .02% of the population is dictating policy of Ukraine is certainly going to have to do better than has thus far been stated — that this is all about “Jews” or “wokeness”.

    To whit allow me. Based on the historical record, it is silly to make any denials that the US does not have an ingrained, intransient system of discriminations along class lines but most devastatingly against the black population in the country. I think its silly to deny history. How that plays out today and what to be done about it if anything minus structural repair is a very tough question.

    Now the social and philosophical upheavals roiling the US, if that is not over the top, is not the result of the black population who more than any other group crawled l belly and and foot to belong, assimilate and repeatedly rebuffed are not the primary cause for concern. Nearly all blacks acknowledge that the best society builders are male female dynamics (heterosexual dynamic) and that men and women are different.

    Now certainly there are some intellectual types who engage in rhetorical discourse to the contrary and certainly blacks, most as part of the liberal and democratic party mouth the politics of white liberal women same sex practioners and and transgenderisms as a means of political support group – sure

    But the damage to the social integrity is that engaged in by whites: women and homosexuals’ and an assorted band of deep progressive’s tat have used legitimate complaints regarding civil rights discrimination of the black and native american communities as weapons to upend traditional life style, polity and sound order — all claiming the the biblical wake up call, experienced by everyone — when they arrive to some new revelation for themselves in life as a weapon of mass destruction (overstated). But even that has nothing to do with a sound rationale for invading Ukraine. Those issues are internal and Ukraine’s business, not Russia’s.

  232. @Wizard of Oz

    How are you qualified to give authoritative opinions about matters of international law?

    By way of my apparently generally superior intellect, relevant knowledge and moral reasoning ability of course (or at least in comparison to EliteComm(unist)Inc).

    If that’s not acceptable then by way of comparison to the robust historical record of various U.S./NATO attacks and invasions of other countries, e.g. Panama, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria for example, on various grounds including: “we believe they’re making anthrax or other WMD and we feel threatened; they’re harboring terrorists; they’re abusing their own people; they’re insufficiently servile to fickle jewish interests; they’re too successful; we don’t like their faces; etc.”

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  233. @EliteCommInc.

    One other point to my long winded, verbose low IQ response is that the belief that whites are somehow endowed by the creator with white skin, wait,

    pure white skin

    though that has never been defined and most likely does not exist is now on display in Ukraine. And has been on display for all the world to record. Have routinely managed to to manipulate complaint to their advantage, ie. whites in the US using the Ukrainian war issue to immigrate Ukrainians and Russians into the US to bolster the white population to assuage fears of some future minority status. In the US the complaint about blacks and affirmation action has a terminal flaw — a logical conundrum is that more than 70% plus of all affirmative action benefits has gone and continues to go to whites. And “wokeness” has not changed that. look at the image above, the NATO leadership — whites . . .

    Frankly, the notion that skin tone is some majestic god given road to peace and prosperity uniquely just does not carry much weight, unless you ignore reality and focus only on the so referenced “positves”.

    Even Pres Momar Qadaffi wanted nuclear weapons as a means of self defense and to my knowledge never threatened to use them in offense as has the Kremlin.

    I don’t have beef with whites advocating for whites, seems strange given that whites are in power and control of the mechanisms — we should be embarrassed by the conduct of whites on Wall Street with no respect or defense of the US economic system and willing to sacrifice all to their own stead . . . but I can guarantee this neither hypocrisy nor self denial of our history has played out well and maybe , just maybe the chickens or the vultures are coming home to roost. And it really gets my goat and my coat that it has come just when I was about to reap my harvest of hard work and sacrifice.

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr . . . I am politically conservative. I make Pres Reagan, and David Duke, YAF, Birch Bayh members look like tea totaling, dancing queens — excuse my political incorrectness. I think I am two inches left of Atilla . . .

    So, in my view given Russian ambitions and the circumstances the US has very little choice but to speak in the language chosen by Russia and supported by China apparently

    war.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  234. ““On the contrary, there is presently no “actual real live country with an established sovereign territorial boundaries (known as Ukraine).” To the extent there ever was such a (legitimate) geopolitical entity in the first place, that status came to an end by way of an unconstitutional coup in 2014.”

    And by golly gee wow . . . hang those darn american colonists —

    look the issues that took place in 2014 are a regrettable in my view Russian and US, EU subverting Ukrainians working out their national issues, regrettable. But as our own civil war makes clear — countries the world over have their internal struggles and sadly that sometimes leads to violence and tragedy . . .

    the point is whatever the constitutional issues they were Ukrainian, that is part of a nations development. Here’s a secret . . . even

    Russia has had internal tragic conflicts shhhhh . . .

    don’t tell anyone else, but they have actually had more than one any one of which makes Ukraine’s internal issues a walk in the park, Russia should have been so forunate.

  235. @Tundra

    You make a good point – which is why I don’t get the blaming other races ideas. The purpose Europeans migrated all around the globe was because there were constant wars and pestilence in Europe.

  236. @Franz

    Putin didn’t like Trump pulling out of the intermediate range missile treaty and pulling out of Open Skies agreement. So how was Trump making peace with Russia? He took Syrian oil – which also angered Russia and he also pulled out of the JCPOA which angered Russia. He also assassinated an Iranian general – which was also destabilizing in Russia’s eyes. Again – what peace?

    • Agree: roonaldo
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  237. @EliteCommInc.

    I hate to break the news to you but even Russia recognizes Ukraine as a sovereign nation…

    Well I hate to break the news to you, but the clear implication of Vladimir Putin’s speech of Feb 21, 2022, for example, is that he doesn’t recognize Ukraine as a sovereign nation, certainly not after the coup.

    According to Putin:

    […]

    It should be noted that Ukraine actually never had stable traditions of real statehood.

    […]

    Are the Ukrainian people aware that this is how their country is managed? Do they realise that their country has turned not even into a political or economic protectorate but has been reduced to a colony with a puppet regime?

    […]

    And as we know he certainly doesn’t see Crimea and the breakaway republics as being part of “Ukraine” so it seems this statement of yours is nonsense, just like all your other statements.

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67828

    The OSCE has acknowledged that Russia herself has violated the standards by engaging in war crimes along with the rebels and Ukraine.

    Or so you barely assert. Prove it, and prove that Russia has committed war crimes. And to the extent that may appear to be the case in some sense and/or to some extent (and I disagree), so what? It does nothing to undermine my point. The rulers of the lawless territory of Ukraine and their Western puppetmasters are the aggressors here, thus they are morally responsible for any and all war crimes committed by anyone during the conflict that they made inevitable.

    Any and every non-combatant on the territory of Ukraine who is inadvertently killed by Russian forces is the victim of a depraved heart murder committed by the rulers of the lawless territory of Ukraine and their Western puppetmasters.

    There is one little problem —

    there is nothing that Russia has done that would commend them by the OSCE charter.

    Whatever that’s supposed to mean.

    In fact, regarding international relations among members, the OSCE rebuffs and and even outright contradicts Russian conduct. And her invasion, totally and completely in violation in philosophy and details.

    Prove it; and to the extent it may be true in some sense, so what?

    “Sure it does, under the circumstances, whether you jews like it or not.”

    I have been accused of a good deal of things, nearly all of which have absolutely nothing to with the issues or my comments on the subject.

    First, let me clarify that of course by the phrase “you jews” I was referring to the jewish collective – and by extension to any individual jews such as yourself who support the Satanic agenda of the collective. Second, in your ill-considered/bad faith opinion, that is.

    But according to this article there is no one consensus where jews stand on the matter.

    Well guess what, no sentient being paying attention needs this article (or any other article for that matter) to determine where “(the) jews” stand on the matter.

    Some even support the invasion.

    LOL!

    And suggestion that .02% of the population is dictating policy of Ukraine is certainly going to have to do better than has thus far been stated — that this is all about “Jews” or “wokeness”.

    Maybe an analogy will help. So let’s see, in the U.S. we’ve got a population of about 330 million people who are ruled by 545 people (435 + 100 + 9 + 1 = 545), so if a mere 0.00165 % of the population can dictate policy then there’s no reason why 0.02% can’t directly or indirectly dictate policy, right?

    To whit allow me.

    No, that’s enough of your babbling for now.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  238. @Mr. Hack

    A low-end cartoon. No punch. Try hanging out nights at Chicago at Lake St. Plenty of punch there.

  239. @Wizard of Oz

    Semi-literate, convoluted stupidity. Whatcha been drinking today?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  240. @EliteCommInc.

    OSCE was found supplying military intelligence versus the Russians and the Donbass folk, by means of captured documents. It is definitively not an objective entity. Sorry, but you lose again.

  241. Anon[848] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben Sampson

    You sound more and more deranged and off the rails. Your comments are really nutty, as if dementia is starting up.

    Looks like you got a Delilah who trimmed off the nappy tufts growing on each side of your bald head. There is not one American Negro, no matter how hard assed he thinks he is, who would survive one week in Africa. You would be living under a tree and begging us to kiss our white asses to return.

    A dub like you might last a few hours at most. In any case there will be no reparations. Even your Nigha President Ohbummer said it is not feasible, that is, after he got elected, screwed over his fellow Bros and also before he moved into YT’s hood. Barracks would have to stump up half (since he is half white) to pay himself because he is half black LMAO. Even VP Kammy would have to toss up the coins since her ancestors were slave owners.

    You and yours can keep dreaming. In the meantime I suggest you go back to work, Walmart always needs janitors, save up and return to Africa ie fuck your self and fuck off. Perhaps one of the bush witch doctors can help you with whatever mental problem ails you.

    For us whites one black man less is a good start !

  242. “It should be noted that Ukraine actually never had stable traditions of real statehood.
    […]
    Are the Ukrainian people aware that this is how their country is managed? Do they realise that their country has turned not even into a political or economic protectorate but has been reduced to a colony with a puppet regime?”

    I have already addressed this. The Ukrainian development is up to the Ukraine. it does not even matter if the Ukrainians opted to dance a jig. how they work out their issues is a matter for Ukrainians. You are barking up the wrong tree here — Russia cannot complain about internal interference by others and then proceed to interfering . . . laugh. again an internal contradiction that undermines the case made by Russia. It simply has no veracity.

    The claim actually reinforces the reason to stop him militarily. Apparently Pres Putin thinks he can decide who and what countries can exist on his own accord, I realize he has help from the Kremlin. So in your mind legitmacy is based on whatever Pres Putin feels like doing. So even when the ISCE says — disputes are not resolved by force between nations — Putin can disregard the consensus’s of even bodies he claims support his position.

    And this makes him a rogue actor and the more your contend, the more dangerous he appears to be.

    “First, let me clarify that of course by the phrase “you jews” I was referring to the jewish collective – and by extension to any individual jews such as yourself who support the Satanic agenda of the collective. Second, in your ill-considered/bad faith opinion, that is.”

    As the article points out the “jewish collective” even in Russia is not at all acting in a singular voice with a singular perspective.

    “Maybe an analogy will help. So let’s see, in the U.S. we’ve got a population of about 330 million people who are ruled by 545 people (435 + 100 + 9 + 1 = 545), so if a mere 0.00165 % of the population can dictate policy then there’s no reason why 0.02% can’t directly or indirectly dictate policy, right?”

    on this very article i reference the polling data and ukrainians, who are not Jewish have decided that they prefer to continue to be free of Russian colonization. And as long as they do, I will certainly defend their right to do so.

    You are of course as with many others late to the discussion, i have previously posted the reference material including the references to the OSCE directly that refutes Pres Putin’s claims.

    The OSCR matters because it is the organization and charter that Pres Putin used to support his position. He called upon the OSCR as the authoritative document and organization that served as some manner of authority. But upon reading the Charter, the claims he makes are not supporter. The organization he relied upon to back his positions does not in any manner support his claims. in fact, the charter , despite being a friend to Russia — contradicts his claims and would, and does, denounce Russian conduct on its face.

    —————————

    “OSCE was found supplying military intelligence versus the Russians and the Donbass folk, by means of captured documents. It is definitively not an objective entity. Sorry, but you lose again.”

    a rather squirrely position. On the hand the ISCE is the defender and supporter of the Russian position and now they are an unreliable cad because on examination, it uncovered that the OSCE is between a rock and hard place because they don’t want to come out and call Pres Putin . . . wrong on all counts.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  243. https://www.justsecurity.org/81143/the-osce-report-on-war-crimes-in-ukraine-key-takeaways/

    https://www.weareukraine.info/the-osce-report-on-war-crimes-in-ukraine-is-particularly-concerning/

    I could go on . . . and certainly i am not dismissing similar conduct by Ukrainians on either side of the issue. But that is the point, As tragic as it is, the issue is a matter between and among Ukrainians to resolve. The fact that Russia is supposed arbitrator of justice and is instead engaged in such conduct — that is a very different kettle of fish

    Oyyy veh . . . this

    “And as we know he certainly doesn’t see Crimea and the breakaway republics as being part of “Ukraine” so it seems this statement of yours is nonsense, just like all your other statements . . .”

    Ukrainians did not fight about Crimea.

    But they are telling the breakaways, that they cannot break up Ukraine by Force without consequence and i would use that reality that Ukrainians fighting ukranians about Ukrainian existence makes my point all the more plain. And your own comments reinforce that ukrainian independence i8s in fact real. And t5hat Russia is attempting to defy some, or all of that is legitmately bei8ng met with force, even at great risk.

  244. @Harold Smith

    Yo Harold!

    Please don’t waste you intelligent comments on EliteComminc?

    • Agree: Passing By
  245. JR Foley says:
    @Zachary Smith

    USA and NATO have defeated Russia –it will be on both Fox and CNN next week. Reason– if USA and NATO did not succeed —how could Freedom –Democracy and Human Rights have a chance of survival ??

  246. @Swaytonious

    I have never posted on gab nor do I have an account there.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  247. @Altai

    Russia claims over 100 Canadian volunteers, many from the Ukrainian diaspora, have been KIA in the last few months.

    This would be earth-shaking news in Canada, if true.

    So far, not one word in the Western media confirming the scope of casualties alleged by Russian sources.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @JR Foley
  248. @Anonymous

    The white race should stop degrading itself with all kinds of wars and start acting as a uniform entity against the tidal wave of colored part of mankind. This is the only possibility for our survival. Prove me wrong.

    Not all kinds of wars but Wars for Zion. Also, the Tribe that pushes Wars for Zion are also the main strategists of War on Whites.

    And Jews have accomplished this by convincing the great majority of whummies, including conzos, that there is nothing more evil than ‘racism'(which is any pro-white sentiment) and nothing holier than Jews as Eternal Holocaust Folks and Genius Folks.

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
  249. @Anonymous

    “When are you gonna start paying reparations for the Holocaust, Poland?!”

    I’m Polish and I would be happy to pay u “reparations” had it not been for the fact that in your case it would be a total waste of funds because you are a basket case.
    Read a book or two on the subject you will know why you are so mentaly numb. May I suggest u start your perusal with year 1939, because u sound like Americunt “educated” by USrael’s education system. Poles have just as much to say in this war matter as an average imbecile in USrahell or elsewhere, and some homos from Ukraine on the pictures prove nothing.

  250. @HeebHunter

    What we observe now in Ukraine, and in ’39 is not Polish joke, but rather USrael and so called Western reality.

  251. @EliteCommInc.

    Ukraine is welcome to retain portions of its Frankenstein Monster which are heavily populated by people who consider themselves Ukrainian nationalists. That would preclude the Donbass, Kharkov, and the south up to Transnistria.

    Also returning to their ethnic folk would be the Hungarian portion of the Carpathians and perhaps the Vlachs and Slovak areas as well. Needless to say, Russia would strongly suggest that Orthodox Ukraine would egest the Galician and Volhynian areas which are dominated by the Uniate Catholics with their Banderista agendas.

    A free Ukraine, unburdened of nationalities they are not capable of honestly administrating would be a happy country, satisfied with the prospect of becoming the heart of a newly realigned Europe, one freed from the chains of Natostan second-fiddling and EU Brussels bureaucrats and their orders from City of London and Wall \$treet.

  252. @emerging majority

    Wizz is a ‘scrub blush’ bloke-metho and beetroot juice from the can.

  253. @Wizard of Oz

    It never could be while run by Ukronazi Banderites and Jewish oligarchs. As history since 2014 shows.

  254. @Wizard of Oz

    ‘China’s Reckoning’??? More wishful thinking from Western racists-that is why YOU cannot see the Sinophobia. A fish does not see the water.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  255. @fat-faced fuck in Poland

    Bla Bla Bla Bla,

    After decades of Holohoax industry and theft of German lands, your Amerimutt masters have deemed fit to reward you with EVEN MORE nigger soldiers.

    I know you Poolacken are impatient for another World War just like the low IQ Banderites of Galicia. I wish I could send you all the Amerimutt Niggers and Spics in Germany over to “your” shithole too, just like your BASED HUWHITE NATIONALIST Government demands.

    Face it, poolacke, your unnatural existence, propped up only by the Holohoax and (((NATO))), is now accumulating in a confrontation of (((WEST))) vs East, with Pooland as the battlefield. I know you subhumans loved that (((NATO))) cold war plan of turning Germany into a nuclear killing field, but it seems that GOD has deemed the lying, kike loving, nigger fucking Poolacken to be the radioactive subjects instead. Good fucking riddancece. You can drop your “Catholic” charade also, and embrace Neo-Nazi Paganism, just like what the Hohols are doing. When is “witcher 4” going to be released, you neo-pagan satanist fucks?

    You are the TUMOR preventing the natural cooperation of Europe and Asia. But thanks be the LORD our GOD that he has proven, such little kike plot cannot prevent the course of nature. Pooland will be the next “Ukraine”, then we will be rid of the pests for good and enjoy the cheap natural resources for centuries. No Holohoax propagandanda is a bonus.


    Wenn ich das seh!
    Werd’ ich echt sauer!
    Polackenlummel,
    schrein WHITE POWER!
    Oh wie ich dieses,
    Scheißvolk hasse!
    Seit wann gehören Polacken,
    zur arischen Rasse!

  256. @Elohim Kosher Bar

    Sorry. Thought you were black scorpion nationalist.

  257. @Harold Smith

    Even if you seek to make arguments fron US excesses I both that you have missed a critical difference. All the countries you mention still exist (Yugoslavia is indeed mulyiplied). Putin seeks to destroy Ukraine physically, geopolitically and culturally.. not a small difference. And it undermines your claim to relevant knowledge.

    • Troll: Chuck Orloski
  258. @EliteCommInc.

    White skin is just a marker. I’m not white. I’m European. White is a term used by jews to pretend to be fellow white people.

  259. Surely the purpose is simple. Russia has used precise long range missiles to hit a number of military targets recently. They have announced them specifically with estimated death tolls at 100 or more.
    These are training centres, mercenary centres, and meeting places or work places for Ukrainian officers.
    The senior Ukrainian officers and therefore a lot of Nato visitors are being targets – this follows the direct threat to target “decision makers” if Ukraine continues to target civilians in Donbas (which it does ever more so and now with Nato weapons).

    Sooner or later a wife or parent is going to speak up.

  260. @mulga mumblebrain

    This seems like a good place to see if an on-his-meds Mulga can give an interesting assessment of Kevin Rudd and his line in (at least) three interviews promoting his book “The Avoidable War” which I haven’t read and is not the pointof this post.

    I have only met Rudd once. It was at a dinner in NYC when he was PM and I was impressed though not so as to disturb my voting intentions. I recall that he was a mate of Phillip Adams, or so PA seemed to say. On the other hand I believed the very senior Liberal Minister who expressed a favourable opinion of Rudd shortly after his election only to be told by a Queensland Labor MP “oh, you’ll get to hate him as we fo when you get to know him”.

    Now, in these videos I think we may say Rudd has hit his straps in terms of harnessing intellect to information and a great capacity for work. He may well be in a job he’s suited to.

    Watch “The Dangers of a Catastrophic Conflict Between the U.S. and Xi Jinping’s China” on YouTube

    “In conversation with Kevin Rudd” YouTube

    How China Sees the World

    Enjoy

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  261. EdwardM says:

    On a side note:

    Turkey had been enticed to drop its objection to Finland and Sweden joining NATO.

    Their opposition did seem to fade quietly. Anyone know why or have a guess? Carrot? Stick? It must have been something, for Erdogan to lose face.

  262. Phibbs says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Ridiculous CIA-inspired cartoon. The Israeli-Occupied Government in Washington D.C. invaded Iraq in 2003 on the mere suspicion it was hiding nuclear weapons — and Iraq was 5,000 miles away. Ukraine already had enemy NATO troops and plans to have nuclear weapons. Also, ethnic Russians in the Donbas were being massacred. Putin had to act.

    • Agree: JR Foley, acementhead
  263. Phibbs says:

    I dropped off some of Philip Giraldi’s articles at the door of the local synagogue. Being Jews, there was a security camera, of course. The local police accosted me as the Jews complained and gave their video of me dropping off the articles to the police. The police officer threatened me with 2.5 years in prison for exercising my Constitutional rights. That’s ironic because Jews are the number one enemy of all law enforcement officials. Jews fund and support BLM mayhem, defunding the police and social divisions.

  264. “Ukraine is welcome to retain portions of its Frankenstein Monster which are heavily populated by people who consider themselves Ukrainian nationalists. That would preclude the Donbass, Kharkov, and the south up to Transnistria.
    Also returning to their ethnic folk would be the Hungarian portion of the Carpathians and perhaps the Vlachs and Slovak areas as well. Needless to say, Russia would strongly suggest that Orthodox Ukraine would egest the Galician and Volhynian areas which are dominated by the Uniate Catholics with their Banderista agendas.

    A free Ukraine, unburdened of nationalities they are not capable of honestly administrating would be a happy country, satisfied with the prospect of becoming the heart of a newly realigned Europe, one freed from the chains of Natostan second-fiddling and EU Brussels bureaucrats and their orders from City of London and Wall \$treet.”

    The first two paragraphs are the internal matters of Ukraine. This sounds an extreme solution – partition, if the people of the regions you mention don’t like ling in Ukraine, I am at a loss what prevents them moving save their own financial condition. But that is the reasonable solution. I am unclear what “other nationalities you speak of. Unless one is a foreigner, I think the nationality in Ukraine is Ukrainian. If I desire to live in Great British because I consider myself British, then, I pursue a path toward British citizenship and move their. I don’t declare my home, property myself British and engage violence in the US to make it so. There’s a reason for maps that designate territorial boundaries. Should the people of an area seek to move another nations property into something else and do so by means of violence, they are very likely t be met with same.

    Ukrainians as I understand it may fold to Russian dreams of past and future glory, but for the moment they prefer to make such decisions minus a boot heel on their neck along with the accompanied cattle prod. And as long as those conditions remain — it is my understanding that Ukraine is telling Russia to

    “go fly a kite”

    But I can see certainly see why Russia is exceeding their authority in another country in their move to establish a newly minted multipolar world by force. And why I am convinced that NATO, the EU, the US and others must respond with force to Russia’s invasion because it is a small part of a much larger agenda intended to be made by threat of violence and violence.

    Intimidation of nuclear offensive by Russia or China, withstanding.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  265. It is not as if Russia has resolved their own ethnic issues

    https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/research/ethnic_conflict_in_the_former_soviet_union

    ——————————————-

    My reference to China assumes that China will make good on her alliance even to war should Russia’s aggression be challenged in the region. It is not a call to war with China unless China so moves.

  266. @mulga mumblebrain

    You wave your hand and say “wishful thinking”. If you have watched/listened to them would you please spell out your reasons for saying that.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  267. nsa says:

    Very little discussion as to the Rooskie morons botching their splendid little war, which should have been over with in a month……and still could be over in a month if the Rooskies didn’t insist on doing everything the hard way. Best way to end the carnage and infrastructure destruction is with a quick victory. Just take out the west ukie power grid with 100 missiles demolishing all the major power substations. No modern society functions in the dark…..no lights, no communications, no transportation, no commerce, no infotainment, no internet porn, no jew governance, no movement of nato supplied ordnance. The euroweanies would be kept busy with another 10 million ukie refugees….lots of succulent unemployed ukie cam girls will be looking for sugar daddies…..put your order in early. Those ukies remaining would be stealing and looting for awhile, then eating their pets, then eating each other. Joolensky would be moving his imaginary armies around the donbass from his home in tel aviv. Nato nazis would be busy figuring out where all those stinger manpads ended up. C’mon Rooskies…..put that bottle down and get your crappy little white-people-killing-white-people war over with…..just take out the west ukie power grid.

  268. @EliteCommInc.

    Bull, blather and bile. Nothing more.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  269. @HeebHunter

    Well, my dear sauerkraut lover, as they surely say in your circles Zig Heil! Oh by the way, don’t read Mein Kampf again. It’s not required anymore, you’re being brainwashed much enough the way you are right now you fascist shmuck. You are a disgrace to all decent Germans I’ve met in my life in your country. You are just a piece of fascist garbage.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  270. EugeneGur says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Associated with the much richer EU it would obviously have been likely to prosper, and, following EU requirements, would have to have observed various principals which old be uncongenial to Putin.

    The EU might’ve prospered – if it hadn’t been so stupid – but hardly Ukraine. There is not that much prosperity in the Eastern Europe that we can see. As to the EU “principles”, they seem to be rather, well, flexible. Not only the principles, but even the EU laws have prevented neither the CC marches not the apartheid laws in the Baltics. There is no reason to believe the EU “principles” would work any better in Ukraine. I can easily imagine that the CC marches would be uncongenial to Putin.

    Your command of language seems to be defective. What you say were deficiencies in democracy in 2006 or 2007 could have no bearing on what Pitin might fear under the influence of changes due to EU association and/or membership (not NATO btw).

    What is deficient is your understanding or, perhaps, your honesty. That was an illustration of the quality of “democracy” Ukraine has long practiced. These “democratic” approach since then intensified, resulting in what could be fairly described as ethnocide, i.e. the deliberate and systematic destruction of the culture of an ethnic group.

    As to Putin’s version of history apparently you just haven’t been listening. How about that it’s never been a proper country? (And Russia is?!!)

    That is a literate truth. Ukraine has never been a country but a territory inside another country. Yes, Russia has been, and is, a proper country, as proper as it gets. All of this is well documented; I don’t know why you people need to argue with well established historic facts, substituting them with fantasies.
    You might dislike Russia all you want for the reasons known only to yourself, but the facts are the facts. You only make yourself look ridiculous denying them. In fact, if you wanted to defend Ukraine’s right to statehood, better arguments than that are available.

  271. geokat62 says:
    @emerging majority

    Bull, blather and bile.

    A triple B rating. The closest to junk status you can get!

  272. @EliteCommInc.

    It should be noted that Ukraine actually never had stable traditions of real statehood…

    I have already addressed this. The Ukrainian development is up to the Ukraine. it does not even matter if the Ukrainians opted to dance a jig.

    Yo knucklehead, at issue here was your claim (comment #241) that “even Russia recognizes Ukraine as a sovereign nation,” which I proved to be wrong (as always) by quoting part of Putin’s speech of 02/21/2022. So if “the Ukrainians opted dance a jig” they would not be doing it on the legitimate sovereign state of Ukraine, but on the lawless territory of Ukraine ruled by an illegitimate puppet government; capisce?

    You are barking up the wrong tree here — Russia cannot complain about internal interference by others and then proceed to interfering . . . laugh.

    And as usual you are barking out of your “mind”…laugh. As I pointed out earlier, Russia can intervene under the doctrine of R2P or upon the emergence of an obvious threat to Russia and/or legitimate Russian interests. To the extent any country is “sovereign” (and as we see Ukraine is not an example of a sovereign country), sovereignty is not absolute.

    Consider the same basic situation in another context. Is a person’s home his inviolable sovereign castle? Only within limits. Suppose you and I were neighbors (vomit) and suppose I was storing 1000 lbs of dynamite and/or 10000 gallons of gasoline, or chlorine gas in my garage; or suppose I was experimenting with deadly pathogens in a lab I built on my property right next to your house; or suppose I put rocket launchers on my lawn aimed at your house; or suppose I was frequently hosting wild drug parties for rowdy gang members many of whom were known to be armed, violent felons who expressed a hatred and a desire to harm people of your ethnicity, etc. When the other neighbors start complaining about my behavior/activities would you appear at the town council meeting telling the audience that I have a right to do whatever I want to do on my sovereign property? Would you defend my right to devalue your property and to risk an “accident” that could kill you and your family in an instant?

    You may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer (and as many of us may suspect, you may even be an exceptional dullard) but I think we both know you wouldn’t approve of what was I doing, right? You see there are laws against doing things like this. In Pennsylvania for example it is a 3rd degree felony to merely “risk a catastrophe”; that is, my dangerous activities don’t even have to destroy your house and kill you to get me in trouble. All I have to do to get myself in big trouble is to create such a risk. So why should anyone expect anything different on an international level?

    Apparently Pres Putin thinks he can decide who and what countries can exist on his own accord, I realize he has help from the Kremlin. So in your mind legitmacy is based on whatever Pres Putin feels like doing.

    Laugh…as if it was Putin/Russia and not the Satanic U.S. “government” run by the Satanic jewish collective going all over the world mass murdering people, fomenting coups/ “color revolutions”, arming terrorists, stealing resources, etc.

    BTW rather than try to lecture me about subjects you apparently know nothing about and/or concerning which you are obviously incapable of performing any kind of cogent moral analysis, maybe your time would be better spent trying to bring your spelling and grammar skills up to at least the third grade level.

    You are of course as with many others late to the discussion, i have previously posted the reference material including the references to the OSCE directly that refutes Pres Putin’s claims.

    First, prove it, and second, it’s irrelevant.

  273. This just popped up online. It is no coincidence that there have been several stories appearing about how Iranians will start killing Americans, that plus the Biden visit to Israel and Saudi Arabia where he clearly was willing to enter a coalition to defeat the Iranians and even gave Israel a green light to attack them. I guess playing the fools game vis-a-vis Ukraine is not enough!

    https://news.yahoo.com/air-force-official-expects-iran-150432239.html

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  274. @Swaytonious

    I can hear! I am on my way.
    Did Anon hear as well? He may not have. Poor guy can read simplicities run right under his nose, ‘rapped up in his nazi delusions about his intellectual grandeur
    Pheew!

    • Replies: @Anon
  275. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beavertales

    Russia claims over 100 Canadian volunteers, many from the Ukrainian diaspora, have been KIA in the last few months.

    This would be earth-shaking news in Canada, if true.

    So far, not one word in the Western media confirming the scope of casualties alleged by Russian sources.

    I am not surprised ! The irony is touching.
    >They love Ukraine but left the place to live in Canada.
    >Then they decided to risk their lives for a country they abandoned.

    These people believe you just pick up an AK and hey presto, you are Rambo. The first shock of an artillery bombardment followed by a tank and infantry assault with screaming Russians and tanks flattening everything in the way and they all SHIT their pants. Many flee and surrender at their first contact.

    What fools ! They deserve to get smoked !
    You can bet that neither the Z nor Canada gives a damn about them.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  276. @fat-faced fuck in Poland

    They owe you too eh fat face! They wont pay! And they cant pay now…they are broke. They cant even keep up their membetship at the UN.

    Maybe one of the Khazar billionaires can pay off their dues for them and send in a Khazar UN ambassador instead.

    But No reparations for such as you and I. We are going to have to foreclose…..!!!

  277. @EliteCommInc.

    (snip links to dubious reports of alleged Russian “crimes” by a politicized/corrupted organization which has previously thoroughly disgraced itself and destroyed its credibility)

    I could go on . . . and certainly i am not dismissing similar conduct by Ukrainians on either side of the issue. But that is the point, As tragic as it is, the issue is a matter between and among Ukrainians to resolve. The fact that Russia is supposed arbitrator of justice and is instead engaged in such conduct — that is a very different kettle of fish

    Yes you could go on and on with your nonsense, but as I’ve already pointed out to you, under the doctrine of R2P and because intolerable threats to Russia and legitimate Russian interests have emerged on the lawless territory of Ukraine (which is run by an illegitimate puppet government controlled by jews), Russia had every moral and legal right to invade the lawless territory of Ukraine and mitigate the threats.

    “And as we know he certainly doesn’t see Crimea and the breakaway republics as being part of “Ukraine” so it seems this statement of yours is nonsense, just like all your other statements . . .”

    Ukrainians did not fight about Crimea.

    Laugh…your silly pedantry reflects your desperation. Not that your “point” somehow undermines mine but just FYI, the “Ukrainians” have never stopped claiming that Crimea is “theirs” and that they are going to take it back. In fact just the other day the “Ukrainian” Deputy Defesce Minister Volodymyr Havrylov publicly claimed that they were going to drive Russia out and take Crimea back.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3185912/ukraine-planning-offensive-crimea-russias-black-sea-fleet

  278. “Yo knucklehead, at issue here was your claim (comment #241) that “even Russia recognizes Ukraine as a sovereign nation,” which I proved to be wrong (as always) by quoting part of Putin’s speech of 02/21/2022. So if “the Ukrainians opted dance a jig” they would not be doing it on the legitimate sovereign state of Ukraine, but on the lawless territory of Ukraine ruled by an illegitimate puppet government; capisce?”

    Oy veh.

    Yu are mistaking Russia invasion of Ukraine as some manner of mandate. Ukrainian independence from the Russian Federation 1991. Furthermore, your failure to acknowledge that Ukraine and other former Federation states are all registered as nations by:

    OSCE
    UN

    Laughing. Just because Pres Putin wakes up one morning and and decides Ukraine is not a country does not make it so. And as I have provided a substantial amount of evidence that Russia conducts its affairs in accordance with Ukraine as independent country until the invasion — I am going to continue to reject your claim that Pres Putin gets to decide who and who is not a country.

    Furthermore:

    [MORE]

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-russia-recognizes-ukrainian-independence-1991-20220224-uptvhapy7rh23lr73a4xreiime-story.html

    Perfect example of Russian rhetorical hopscotch . . .

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082172502/russia-plans-to-recognize-2-ukrainian-regions-as-independent

    If you Ukraine was not independent, there would be no reason to acknowledge the breakaways independence from Ukraine. This has got to be one of the most bizarre “woke” rhetorical.

    As I recall late last week or this, Pres Putin offered Ukrainians Russian citizenship —- uhhhh, you don’t offer citizenship to citizens. This is like having a discussion with a woman about why she is not the same as a man . . . she refuses to acknowledge any boundaries of reality. just crashes through as though reality is of her own making. Hence, the current gymnastics by Pres Putin. Before he invaded, I actually thought he out did the west and then he invaded and made his case as to why–

    Frankly, it made no sense. He is backpaddling and making smoke to obscure the obvious.

    ——————–

    Uhhh apparently, you have no idea what the R2p is. It is a UN mandate

    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/about-responsibility-to-protect.shtml

    So we are now abandoning the OSCE arguments and leaning on the UN. Excuse me, I have news for you. The UN has already acknowledged Russia’s invasion as unwarranted. Trying to apply the R2P against the body which established and rejects your conduct simply fails for that reason.

    “Consider the same basic situation in another context. Is a person’s home his inviolable sovereign castle? Only within limits. Suppose you and I were neighbors (vomit) and suppose I was storing 1000 lbs of dynamite and/or 10000 gallons of gasoline, or chlorine gas in my garage; or suppose I was experimenting with deadly pathogens in a lab I built on my property right next to your house; or suppose I put rocket launchers on my lawn aimed at your house; or suppose I was frequently hosting wild drug parties for rowdy gang members many of whom were known to be armed, violent felons who expressed a hatred and a desire to harm people of your ethnicity, etc. When the other neighbors start complaining about my behavior/activities would you appear at the town council meeting telling the audience that I have a right to do whatever I want to do on my sovereign property? Would you defend my right to devalue your property and to risk an “accident” that could kill you and your family in an instant?”

    There is no mandate here. If in fact, the Russians were concerned about their former labs that were either being demolished or or retrofitted. Then there is an international body to deal with that matter more than one actually. Even the US did not act as the sole actor regarding wmd and chemical weapons issues. Furthermore, there was nothing illegal about chemical weapons research in Ukraine.

    https://www.opcw.org/about-us/member-states

    Uhh note: the members

    Now as to your example, it is absolutely an incorrect application — The US has a system by which this is applicable. And note, it is internal to the US. The authorization to protect has authorizations that I can lean on on. That is an internal matter. The R2P is not something that I as an individual can lean on to invade a house in Mexico and there are plenty of violations by Mexicans against US and Mexicans citizens loving in Mexico.

    Not a fan of the wikipedia, but it will suffice for this discussion.

    “The other fourteen independent states established from the former Soviet Republics were all admitted to the UN:

    The Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic and the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic joined the UN on 24 October 1945 together with the USSR. After declaring independence, the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic changed its name to Ukraine on 24 August 1991, and on 19 September 1991, the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic informed the UN that it had changed its name to Belarus.
    Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania were admitted to the UN on 17 September 1991, after regaining independence before the dissolution of the USSR.
    Russia took over the Soviet Union’s seat on 24 December 1991, after a letter by president Boris Yeltsin was received by the secretary-general Javier Pérez de Cuéllar.
    Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the Republic of Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan were admitted to the UN on 2 March 1992.
    Georgia was admitted to the UN on 31 July 1992.”

    In real politick, even the UN recognizes Ukraine . . . .

    And there it is is the former Czechoslavakia was not partitioned by the US but by an international body over seen by the UN. So your example, makes clear that the intervention to protect was endorsed by the UN and prompted the legal framework outlined and explicated by the R2P. Good grief, if Pres Putin is going to call upon legal frames by which to justify the conduct of Russia, he should at least used the same bodies for his conduct. Again another rather desperate twist to justify the aggression for which there is not justification.

    As for proving it — I have provided that information, whether you choose to research it, is up to you.

    “Laugh…as if it was Putin/Russia and not the Satanic U.S. “government” run by the Satanic jewish collective going all over the world mass murdering people, fomenting coups/ “color revolutions”, arming terrorists, stealing resources, etc.”

    Well, there’s typical response. But first let’s address your comments regarding the US conduct. My record on US conduct abroad, i.e. the Middle East is well known and well established with references to boot. But in the case of the US in the Middle East, note the process, despite being rejected, the US went before the international community and made its case. They at the very least acknowledged that there is a community to which they were responsible. For all of Russian whining and claims, they have yet to make their case before the international community and as such demonstrates further that that when it comes to the international rules and institutions – they simply disregard them to their own purposes.

    Your what aboutism fails for the same reason your charging into someone’s home fails, the conditions upon a look at the specifics fail. When Pres Putin called on the OSCE to justify his invasion. I simply went and read the OSCE charter. That discussion was as far back as March. And o and behold, nothing in the charter substantiated his claims. In fact, they contradicted them – especially on the issue of resolving disputes and democracy promotion.

    If there had been a single actual event in Russia comitted by Ukrainians, I could be more sympathetic. But you don’t even have a smoking shadow, not even a traffic violation, muchless a Princip incident. Nothing, just the pitiful excuse that Ukraine is not a country, they have a nazis, there president is a jew, they are too woke, then of course the added weapons labs . . . and before that NATO, there are being surrounded — all one has to do is check a map, Russia is not being surrounded.

    My record for providing references and citing material is fairly solid. I am going to rest on that.

    As for morality: I am walking very carefully because for people who think they can decide who and who is not real, or ignore the standards established . . . discussing morality is a quicksand affair. Hence your peculiar comment that Ukraine is not a country because Russia says its not despite the history and course of a people whose language, and culture differ

    but this final comment makes it clear

    “First, prove it, and second, it’s irrelevant.”

    Having provided the evidence, your position is that the evidence supporting the position is irrelevant. Oyyy veh. There’s a circle your tale model as deep as those presented By Pres Putin, who daily looks to clarify and back pedal from his foundational positions.

    The US and Europe had better be getting ready for a fight. Because we have seen this type of rhetoric before. Vague claims about ethnic whose who and imaginary boundaries and old grievances and ethnic loyalties

    While, there may be too much influence on foreign policy to Israeli considerations, I have not yet resigned myself to the conclusion that the US government is entirely satanic or even close. Well they have not yet, began telling me that Mexico, or Canada are not real countries. As for moral bankruptcy . . .

    Russia corruption ranks higher than that of the Ukraine. Not by much, but the point is I am not sure Russia has a moral card to play here.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  279. @Philip Giraldi

    where is the american popular revolution!!!! Its late! Its overdue!!!

    The multitudes out in the streets overwhelming and dispossesing the state of things, killing he oligarchy and creating a new way that cleanses financial capitalism and starts society fresh????

    It is either the American people come out and carries out its historical responsibility of humaniy goes to hell!

  280. It is either the ordinary people of the world get up and go on out an revolutionize their nations/cultures or die trying!!!

    It is either we die trying, or die by one of the many catastrophic capitalist shenanigans going on right now… or lined up to hit us all with until we are all neutralized and utterly depopulated and controlled permanently.

    And it must happen now! The revolution! We have run out of time. We are overdue!

    • Agree: JR Foley
  281. Treg says:

    My T-Shirt:

    “WW3 in Ukraine?”
    “Build Back Better?”
    Two good ideas! – Joe Biden

  282. JR Foley says:

    “The Biden administration is reportedly running an investigation to determine whether Huawei products have the capability to capture sensitive data from US military installations and missile silos and beam it back to the People’s Republic.”

    Low lying fruit —USA is behind in technology and finding excuses why Ukraine losing. Of Couse Zelenka ( some former escort ) is in DC and Hunter Biden will bed this babe. Funny how Hunter was deeply involved with the Ukrainian Mafia with Dmitry Firstash but the trash news CNN and FOX NEVER cover this angle.

    Hope Pelosi has a hot time in Taiwan and suggests Taiwan is part of the USA !!!

    Freedom Human Rights Democracy Amtrak NRA Bible Mike Pompeo Forest Gump

  283. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Yes go back to Africa. With your social security cheque you should be able to live very well in any large city. A better lifestyle awaits you in the African bush where you will have no food bill. There are lots of rodents and berries for you to crunch on. You can also dig for roots and harvest monkey nuts. Your sloping head, jutting jaw, thick lips and over size teeth will come in handy. You could make a hat out of bark for that empty Q-Ball that sits on your shoulders. Oh and I forgot, mud, sticks, grass and cow shit are free so construction costs will be low, you wont need plumbing and you can dig a hole behind a bush with a digging stick and dump there.

    [MORE]

    Benny boy, its a great opportunity to get in touch with your inner Negro. No whites to complain about and no whites to tolerate YOU and your troupe of Howler Momkeys and Baboons..

    I have no delusions about blacks but of course I do have goals of intellectual grandeur. Take a poll. Everyone on this site, even Troof, Snatch X, Thomm Thumbb or Be Mildew think you are an asshole. My intellectual grandeur is offset by you intellectual deficit. When whites first came to Africa your people had no written language. Bro, they had 5400 years to come up with something and what did they do ? Nothing !, The brain just was not there. Your people were living in hovels, dressed in skins and sleeping on the ground. Some even lived in hollow trees and caves scrounging for grubs, worms and of course eating each other. Thats how the White Man found you and to this day things have not improved but have gone into reverse.

    If I went to a party and did not like it I would leave. Since blacks do not like Whites they should leave but they wont because they have no other choice. Not one of you Afro Americans know anything about Africa other than what you see on Mutual of Omaha !.

    Let me assure you that the shit whites put up with here, blacks do not tolerate in Africa. They would fuck you up. The black police there do not hesitate to execute other blacks with the cameras rolling, a crowd gathered and in the middle of the day.

    Blacks oppress and abuse other blacks worse than whites ever did no matter what part of the world they live in. You are an old fart living in a delusion. Come out of your bubble. return to Africa BUT you wont because you have no balls and you have no choice. Like it or not YT is controlling you but not as well as your black leaders and race touts. They pimp you and while you live in misery and poverty they live very well indeed.

    You and your race are losers and if civilisation endures for another 5000 years, you Niggers will always be at the bottom of the totem pole, always with a tin cup in hand begging for a handout, glad for the crumbs, spit and snot balls the other races throw your way, lapping it all up but still complaining and complaining.

    Little wonder every other race on earth has nothing but contempt for the black man, little wonder even your own think you are nothing but dog shit. Blacks are the scum of the earth, the crust around the anus of a mangy street dog, leeches, parasites, moochers and hangers on. Ask anyone if you doubt this ?

    Head out there Nigger Boy. The Dark Continent awaits you !

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  284. JR Foley says:
    @Anon

    Have you heard the latest? Canada began with the Ukrainians. Stepan Bandera statues to be erected in all provincial capitals and Ottawa. Ukrainian to supplant English as Canada’s future working language and BC is being renamed Bandera Chomiak —–the Zilencki will be the currency and Chrystia Freeland will become Queen and Metro King —of Canada !!

  285. JR Foley says:
    @monika92gti

    And a Ukrainian second in command –spend the coin Freeland and granddaughter of Chomiak pal of Bandera –shoot some Poles-Jews _Gypsies for racial purity —-Nazi !!!

  286. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Swaytonious

    Ghana calls to Benny Boy but he ignores the call of his homeland. Benny Boy knows that in Ghana, there is no social security, free housing and perks. Human Rights are non-existent. Benny has no tribe so that means that every “Black Africa Brudda” will take a piece of his Afro American ass.

    And so, he remains in the US, a tick on the sweaty balls of every other race because he has no other choice.

    His talent and that of his fellow tree dwellers is to bark, yelp and howl ie when they are not sleeping or hanging out (no pun intended) because that is the limit of their talent.

    When we look at most of them its not a far leap to classify these chimps as the missing link LOL.

    • LOL: Swaytonious
  287. Athena says:

    The Criminal Focus of Secret US Biolabs Now Becomes Apparent

    https://journal-neo.org/2022/07/20/the-criminal-focus-of-secret-us-biolabs-now-becomes-apparent/

    (excerpts)

    ,,Documentary evidence was obtained of the research on dangerous pathogens, including the Ebola virus, the causative agent of Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, as well as many others (for by no means peaceful and humane purposes) by American, British, and German military biologists in Kiev and Odessa.”

    ,,From a report obtained during the capture at a US biolab in Ukraine, prepared for the Pentagon by Metabiota and Black & Veatch, it follows that “Veterinary Projects” codenamed “TAP” were implemented in Ukraine, during which infections were developed that could cause damage not to the manpower of the enemy, but the agriculture of entire regions.”

    ,,Experiments were also carried out with potent narcotic drugs, particularly, nalbuphine, which is dangerous because it is very addictive and is on par with morphine, methadone, and tramadol. It, in particular, was supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Luhansk front.”

    ,,Research at these biolabs is carried out in three main areas: the study of the epidemic situation near the expected deployment areas of NATO or US troops; the study of the genotype of possible future opponents (in particular, Slavs and Chinese); increased pathogenicity via synthetic biology, which have already appeared in service with US military virologists.”

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  288. @Athena

    In other words, just another day in Satan’s Exceptional Empire.

  289. @Wizard of Oz

    Just check out any of Godfree’s expositions of Chinese progress. Moreover I have seen Rightwing Sinophobe racists like YOU blathering about ‘China’s collapse’ for at least forty years. Wishful thinking from really existing White Supremacists who are driven insane with rage at the prospect of another civilization replacing their own at the pinnacle of global influence-and influence for the better, as well.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  290. @Wizard of Oz

    Rudd was a narcissistic sociopath and remains so, in my opinion at least. He shows the obvious influence of Ryckmans the Belgian reactionary beloved of the Murdochites who imbued hatred of the CPC into generations of ANU unfortunates. Rudd was a CATASTROPHE as PM, until the US Embassy ‘protected sources’, led by Bill Shorten, knifed him on orders from Thanatopolis DC, then Rudd committed the act of an ULTRA-RAT by leaking against the ALP during the 2010 election campaign.
    Today he hawks his soiled wares to any anti-Chinese Imperial bordello that will host him. The second worst ALP PM ever, just behind his successor, the inglorious Gillard. The ‘friendship’ (do these types really have friends?)with that odious phony Adams says it all.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  291. @fat-faced fuck in Poland

    You fat-faced big-mouthed retards are sitting on traditional German lands, and you know it. It’s only money from hard-working Germans that keeps your piss-assed excuse of a country – Pooland – afloat, like a piece of sewage in a septic tank. Nobody is going to put their heads on the chopping block for the Pollocks, when the time comes. I think Heebhunter is correct and the Pollocks, being the thieves, liars and unbearable assholes they are will surely get what fate has in store for them.

  292. Odyssey says:

    Ever since they received the American HIMARS multi-barrel rocket launchers, the Ukrainian generals have become emboldened. On July 20, their subordinates fired two platoons of six rockets at the Antonovsky bridge across the Dnieper in the Kherson region. There are 11 holes left on the bridge.

    A battery of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems arrived from Crimea in the Kherson region – with the task of defending the Antonovsky Bridge. On July 21, the Ukrainians tried two new platoons. Again, with long-range rockets that American satellites and Avax guide to the target.

    But the S-400 intercepted and shot down all 12 missiles launched.

    Thus, the S-400 reduced to zero the American myth that the missiles of their multi-barrel rocket launchers are uncatchable (undefeatable).

    This is a hint that more and more new S-400 systems will arrive in Ukraine in the coming days. To close the sky over strategic objects under Russian control and over ongoing operations.

    • Thanks: emerging majority
  293. JR Foley says:
    @Beavertales

    Most were from Ontario –the Bandera Task Force where Chomiak’s grand-daughter gave an address–Chrystuak R+Freeland —right hand of Justin Jackboot Trudeau. Secondly—don’t bring their bodies back for interment —simply toss in the local sewage system.

  294. @monika92gti

    Poles beat the living f… out of you in 1410, and it is just too bad you were not around back then. After so many ages of being a royal pain in the ass in Europe, I’m starting to believe that some Jew saying Germany should have been partitioned after second world war, was right after all. In spite of being quite smart a nation, imbeciles like you prove that you are simply no good or should I say scum of the Earth.
    Look in the mirror you moron sometimes and ask yourself a question, why am I such an evil person, full of hate and crap.

    Oh by the way, tell me I’m curious, does that scar in your right armpit after swastika removal hurt?

    Don’t bother replying because I’m done with you. I’d rather talk to my dog who’s got more brains than you, and consider seeing a shrink if there is still some hope for you.

  295. @Anon

    They don’t understand that their position is as tenuous as the Jew’s.. without the US to defend them, the world would stomp them back to Africa. The whole whining about not being give front of the line service in trains of Ukranian civilians fleeing is a perfect example.

    When the jew goes out, so does their golems.

    The only thing preventing their destruction is ideology. Hell, I even saw a story a while back about a Chinese business owner in Nigeria publicly whipping a Nigerian employee for stealing. ZERO fucks were given. They deserve the Chinese… and that isn’t meant to be an insult to Chinese people. I know they don’t accept bad behavior and see it as a disservice to the offender in not correcting it. A good trait.

  296. @mulga mumblebrain

    Hi Mulga!

    Instead of wasting time with trolls like the Wizard of ZOG & EliteComminc, please read the article below?

    The ZUS and Israel are planning a False Flag attack, which will be blamed on Iran. Then the world’s oil supply chain will convulse, and just like now — as the Zionist Biden regime blames higher fuel prices on Russia’s special operation — fuel prices will go through the roof.

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3567625-austin-milley-warn-iran-against-helping-russia-in-ukraine/

    By the way, please review Phil Giraldi’s comment # 284?

  297. @EliteCommInc.

    “Yo knucklehead, at issue here was your claim (comment #241) that “even Russia recognizes Ukraine as a sovereign nation,” which I proved to be wrong (as always) by quoting part of Putin’s speech of 02/21/2022. So if “the Ukrainians opted dance a jig” they would not be doing it on the legitimate sovereign state of Ukraine, but on the lawless territory of Ukraine ruled by an illegitimate puppet government; capisce?”

    Oy veh.

    Yu are mistaking Russia invasion of Ukraine as some manner of mandate. Ukrainian independence from the Russian Federation 1991. Furthermore, your failure to acknowledge that Ukraine and other former Federation states are all registered as nations by OSCE UN:

    For the second time, you idiot, I quoted Putin’s statements to show that your claim (quoted above) was wrong. Everything else is irrelevant.

    Laughing. Just because Pres Putin wakes up one morning and and decides Ukraine is not a country does not make it so.

    Laughing. Okay, for the third time, the issue is whether or not Russia recognizes Ukraine as a sovereign nation, not whether you can make some hapless pedantic argument that it is. According to Vladimir Putin “(Ukraine) has been reduced to a colony with a puppet regime.” Since Putin speaks for Russia and since “a colony with a puppet regime” is not a sovereign nation you are indisputably proven to be wrong. Why not just accept it and move on?

    If you Ukraine was not independent, there would be no reason to acknowledge the breakaways independence from Ukraine. This has got to be one of the most bizarre “woke” rhetorical.

    How am I supposed to have a “discussion” with you, knucklehead, when you can’t even compose meaningful sentences? I’m not exactly sure what your word salad is supposed to mean but maybe if you can get your caregiver (or some other sympathetic adult) to explain to you the meaning of the terms “de facto” and “de jure” it may shed some light on things for you.

    As I recall late last week or this, Pres Putin offered Ukrainians Russian citizenship —- uhhhh, you don’t offer citizenship to citizens.

    Who said they were citizens (of Russia)? You’re just making things up.

    This is like having a discussion with a woman about why she is not the same as a man . . . she refuses to acknowledge any boundaries of reality. just crashes through as though reality is of her own making. Hence, the current gymnastics by Pres Putin.

    Wow, a fairly appropriate analogy from you; I’m almost impressed. Yes, your Satanic tribe made a mess out of Ukraine just like they made a mess out of the concept of gender, for example. The jews and their puppets fomented an unconstitutional coup in Ukraine and installed a puppet government there, thereby creating an unnatural geopolitical freak, just like they helped to create unnatural transgender freaks in the U.S. Chaos is an inherent feature of Satanic jewish evil and that’s exactly what we’re dealing with here. Hence “the current ‘gymnastics’ by Pres. Putin” in trying to deal with the geopolitical consequences of such international jewish treachery can be compared to the ‘gymnastics’ needed to deal with the consequences of jewish domestic treachery, e.g., transgender men participating in womens’ sports.

    Before he invaded, I actually thought he out did the west and then he invaded and made his case as to why–

    Frankly, it made no sense. He is backpaddling and making smoke to obscure the obvious.

    Laughing. It only seems that way to a dishonest moron such as yourself. See above. Poor Vladimr Putin and Russia are forced to deal with the chaos that jewish evil always creates. That’s all.

    Uhhh apparently, you have no idea what the R2p is. It is a UN mandate

    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/about-responsibility-to-protect.shtml

    So we are now abandoning the OSCE arguments and leaning on the UN. Excuse me, I have news for you. The UN has already acknowledged Russia’s invasion as unwarranted. Trying to apply the R2P against the body which established and rejects your conduct simply fails for that reason.

    Uhhh apparently, you have no idea what the R2P is, you idiot. R2P is an “emerging international norm,” not somebody’s exclusive intellectual property. Did you have a look at the link you referred to? Apparently not. The first paragraph reads:

    The responsibility to protect embodies a political commitment to end the worst forms of violence and persecution. It seeks to narrow the gap between Member States’ pre-existing obligations under international humanitarian and human rights law and the reality faced by populations at risk of genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity.

    And that’s exactly what Russia is doing. Russia tried to encourage a diplomatic solution to the problems created by jewish treachery in Ukraine. France and Germany were supposed to be the guarantors of Minsk II but they failed in their duty to compel Kiev to abide by the agreement.

    Poroshenko even made a public statement implying bad faith from the beginning; i.e. he had no intention of implementing Minsk agreements.

    So Russia was finally forced to intervene, which it had every moral and legal right to do.

    I don’t have any more time for your nonsense right now. Maybe later.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  298. @Harold Smith

    Hi Harold!

    I try to tell all reasonable commenters to avoid both EliteComminc and the Wizard of ZOG like a small pox plague.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  299. @Chuck Orloski

    You’re right about that Chuck. Getting into a “discussion” with such trolls is like stepping in stinky, sloppy dog poop that you can’t easily remove from your shoe. It’s my fault as I should know by now that I always come to regret it.

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
  300. Oy.

    “Laughing. Okay, for the third time, the issue is whether or not Russia recognizes Ukraine as a sovereign nation, not whether you can make some hapless pedantic argument that it is. According to Vladimir Putin “(Ukraine) has been reduced to a colony with a puppet regime.” Since Putin speaks for Russia and since “a colony with a puppet regime” is not a sovereign nation you are indisputably proven to be wrong. Why not just accept it and move on?”

    I provide documented evidence the Russia upon Ukrainian independence recognizes it. I even provide you a treaty in which it is recognized and further reference to negotiations between the two countries in which the Russians refer to Ukraine as Pres Zelenski’s country.

    Your comments are to what Pres Putin tries to do as some manner of dismissal, but the record is clear that since 1991 Ukraine is a separate country. I even note organizational documentation in which varoius government bodies recognize the Ukraine as a separate country — i.e. the UN in which no objections are made until nw.

    Laugh — no doubt Pres Putin wants to make that claim now. Ukraine broke with Russia as did numerous other countries in 1991 and the relations between the two countries all reflect as much and it does so in official capacities. This is every bit a conversation like that one has with liberals.

    You don’t refute the content, well you can’t. You merely dismiss it because it is inconvenient.

    From Pres Yeltsin forward Ukraine and the other countries announcing their independence and acting accordingly are not Russian territories. However much Pres Putin longs for that to be the case. And why the UN condemns his invasion.

    ——————————

    Here you again,

    It is a position put in place by the UN. It is not merely some abstract document one can use as one sees fit. Unless of course you are looking for excuses to invade another country. It was born out of the issues with Rwanda and Czekoslovakia. It has force because it is associated with a body that has the means to enforce the matter. Peace keeping organization and the like. Repeatedly Pres Putin and his Kremlin advisors, etc. have sought for some organizational jurisdicional relevance hence

    OSCE that fails

    He continues to bypass the UN and does even take a case of genocide — invoking an r2p intervention before the UN because one cannot be made that warrant intervention despite violations what is happening in Ukraine is a civil conflict. So the kremlin urns to the OSCE to make their case and the end results the OSCE Minks accords. However Russia doesn’t want to abide the agreement, so the two parties can negotiate, thereby nullifying the Minks accords altogether.

    It’s very clear that all attempts to seek legitimacy have failed. And why he is looking to support from China, North Korea, Belarus — also and independent country. While countries have agreed not to impose sanctions . . . thus not a one has declared Ukraine an illegitimate sovereign country.

    Now if he can get the UN to expel Ukraine as a non country, . . .

    And I am keenly aware of the strategy of the real politick that says the politics are that which I can impose and enforce regardless of the rules as it suits my interests. And that remains why Russia presses force and uses threats of nuclear war —that the fear of conflict escalation will enable to carve out a reality that he thinks is best for Russia regardless of the international rules of conduct, such arbitrarily invoking the R2P.

    But the R2P is not free floating policy. it’s one developed by the UN and s part and parcel to their governance. Like UNCLOS, which China would love to say is irrelevant.

    You’ll have to do much better than Ukraine not a country because Pres Putin says so. The body of evidence by Russia beyond Yeltsin’s tenure and in accordance with the interantional bodies of governance that governs affairs, including chemical and bio research establish that Ukraine and other former federation countries are in fact independent and sovereign.

    Note: The Soviet Union nor the Russian federation were countries. They were a conglomeration of countries forced to abide by a more powerful countries politics and affairs. And most, not all departed at the dissolution of the Soviet Union to pursue their own futures and Russia has acted accordingly, much to the chagrin of the kremlin elite longing for past glories.

    Ukraine is but one example of those former countries fleeing Russian control.

    I am sure it is a disappointment that the OSCE has found cause to challenge Russian conduct.

    “And that’s exactly what Russia is doing. Russia tried to encourage a diplomatic solution to the problems created by jewish treachery in Ukraine. France and Germany were supposed to be the guarantors of Minsk II but they failed in their duty to compel Kiev to abide by the agreement.

    Poroshenko even made a public statement implying bad faith from the beginning; i.e. he had no intention of implementing Minsk agreements.”

    You do understand that “bad faith” means disingenuous conduct — i.e. Russia’s failure to withdraw and the negotiations between the parties in Ukraine — excluding Russia presence. that is Russia acting bad faith to the requirement of the Minsk accords. And why negotiations in art broke down. Russia demanded assent but when called out for violating a primary condition — as acknowledged by the Minsk committee — her hypocrisy was clear — she had an agenda that undermined the accords, she was accusing others of violating.

    ———————————————-

    finally something that I cannot dispute. I can certainly improve my writing and proof reading

    I am afraid that you and Russia are going to have to come to the conclusion that among nations, Pres Putin is not the deciding factor in which country is in act a country recognized by the international community and in this case — also recognized by Russia.

    Good greif,

    The Friensdship treaty settled the matter inviolate borders between the two countries — and that was after the Crimea annexation.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
    , @Harold Smith
  301. Russia offers of citizenship

    https://www.rt.com/russia/558783-ukraine-citizens-fast-track-citizenship/

    if in fact the contention that Ukraine is not a country and is still a part of Geater Russia, then one need offer citizenship to Russia as they would already be Russians. They are not, as the offer makes blatantly clear.

    The real move here, and this is my speculation, is to have some number of Ukrainians declare their desire or accept said offer who might be deep within Ukraine, thereby giving excuse to extend the invasion deeper into Ukraine by way of claims to “protect” Russian citizens from harm. An example might be those of the community getting very upset about such conduct and start a tar and feathering party seeing said ukrainians as traitors.

  302. @SOL

    “Ben Stiller can run in 2024 to replace Biden.”

    Rumors are about that the C-hag is going to make her 3rd run for the White House in 2024, and everyone who doesn’t want to be suicided will give her a wide berth.

  303. No problem belaboring the point . . .

    Russia ukraine friendship treaty acknowledging national boundaries

    ” Under the agreement both parties ensure the citizens of the other countries’ rights and freedoms on the same basis and to the same extent that it provides for its citizens, except as prescribed by national legislation of States or international treaties.

    [MORE]

    Every country protects in established order of the rights of its citizens living in another country, in accordance with commitments to documents of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe and other universally recognized principles and norms of international law, agreements within the Commonwealth of Independent States.

    The agreement, among other things prematurely confirms the inviolability of borders of countries,[1] regardless that Russia and Ukraine had not finalized a border between the two countries.[13] The border was delineated in the 2003 Treaty on the Russian-Ukrainian State Border, but Ukraine has started the agreed-upon demarcation unilaterally after Russia dragged its feet.[14]

    Under Article 2:
    In accord with provisions of the UN Charter and the obligations of the Final Act on Security and Cooperation in Europe, the High Contracting Parties shall respect each other′s territorial integrity and reaffirm the inviolability of the borders existing between them.[15][7][16]

    The Treaty document stipulates in Article 40 that the Treaty is entered into for a period of 10 years and renews automatically unless one of the parties notifies the other of its intention to curtail the Treaty.[1]”

    ratified despite the annexation of Crimea.

    and it exists on the remise of the UN Charter take special note:

    “PART I
    Article 1
    1. All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

    2. All peoples may, for their own ends, freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources without prejudice to any obligations arising out of international economic co-operation, based upon the principle of mutual benefit, and international law. In no case may a people be deprived of its own means of subsistence.

    3. The States Parties to the present Covenant, including those having responsibility for the administration of Non-Self-Governing and Trust Territories, shall promote the realization of the right of self-determination, and shall respect that right, in conformity with the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations.

    PART II
    Article 2
    1. Each State Party to the present Covenant undertakes to respect and to ensure to all individuals within its territory and subject to its jurisdiction the rights recognized in the present Covenant, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

    2. Where not already provided for by existing legislative or other measures, each State Party to the present Covenant undertakes to take the necessary steps, in accordance with its constitutional processes and with the provisions of the present Covenant, to adopt such laws or other measures as may be necessary to give effect to the rights recognized in the present Covenant.

    3. Each State Party to the present Covenant undertakes:

    (a) To ensure that any person whose rights or freedoms as herein recognized are violated shall have an effective remedy, notwithstanding that the violation has been committed by persons acting in an official capacity;

    (b) To ensure that any person claiming such a remedy shall have his right thereto determined by competent judicial, administrative or legislative authorities, or by any other competent authority provided for by the legal system of the State, and to develop the possibilities of judicial remedy;

    (c) To ensure that the competent authorities shall enforce such remedies when granted.”

    The civil conflict was and remains an internal issue to Ukraine

    ————————–

    In other words, recognized sovereignty under the rules and guidances, expectations of the UN

  304. JR Foley says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    TUCKER CARLSON: Biden should be impeached for sending our natural assets to our enemy China.

    Tucker should focus on =WHY Biden Sr has spent hundreds of billions on Ukraine but 0 on USA infrastructure? Secondly——Hunter Biden was in Ukraine working for Dmitry Firstash on gas transmission but Firtash needed permission from Mogilevich to run operations and some of Mogilevich’s top men reside at Trump Tower.

    Hunter Biden –Ukraine –millions being blown away to JEW Zylensky and his former escort wife Zelenka who is now in bed with Hunter Biden and his Jewish wife.

    Why does China need USA oil —-when it comes Cheaper from Russia ?.

    Tucker Carlson –a racist clueless hillbilly–who writes his scripts –Jethro Clampett ??

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  305. JR Foley says:
    @roonaldo

    Zylenskyy can get help and reliable assistance from Canada —-Justin Jackboot and Chrytia Freeland waiting in the wings. However, Canada MUST raise 2 trillion for Ukraine to outdo Amtrak Joe.

  306. @fat-faced fuck in Poland

    You mean the brainwashed, denatzified, traumatized “Germans”. Of course you would love them.

    I would love to waste more time with you, but here is a reminder.

    When it gets REALLY cold for several winters, when the industries collapse because no Russian gas is delivered. Who will people look to? What kind of questions shall people ask?

    Like I said, you are a Tumor. Give back Prussia, stop participating in (((NATO))) activities, stop riding on Holohoax welfare train, then you might just have a future. Otherwise, you can remain with those traumatized, vaxed “German” friends of yours.

    But you know, and I know, it is too late. You can’t even act the based-huwhite-nationalists anymore, with how many US nigger/spics legionnaires in “your” country, and how you lots just seem to beg for even more nigger/spic soldiers to be stationed in Europe. Your position is untenable. You are in no position to call anyone a kike lackey, because you are one!

    Times up! Go pick up some branches for this winter, will you, LOL!

    https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/06/03/poland-encourages-people-to-collect-firewood-in-forests-amid-soaring-energy-costs/

  307. @JR Foley

    Hi JR!

    Tucker Carlson is just another smooth talking Shabbos goy.

  308. @Chuck Orloski

    Re. 284-inevitable. The PTB want to end this ‘system’ and exterminate billions of ‘useless eaters’, or ‘rats’ as the HIDEOUS Yuval Noah Hariri called the untermenschen, in a diatribe to the Davos ghouls. Attacking Iran will hasten the collapse, and, we must always remember-these monsters are both insane and Evil, and not a few believe dearly in the End Times garbage, and wish to hasten its arrival. I blocked Elite C yonks ago. The Wizz is a type I loathe on sight, and a local, so I dog his heels. It’s cheap entertainment because he is SO very typical of the fifth-rate ‘elites’ in this country.

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
  309. @HeebHunter

    Tumor?! You poor fuck. If Poland is a tumor, what do you call scum resposible for the death of 60 milion people?! Besides, don’t u have your own problems u mindless dickhead to be concerned with Poland? Fuck u and fuck the horse u rode in on u teutonic primitive simpletonish prick.
    If burning wood is something u find offensive or funny in your brainless skull, than I rush to inform u that I do that in my fireplace for 20 years now because it’s one of the most ecological things to do. But how whould u know having IQ lower than your body temperture in Celisius degrees.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
    , @monika92gti
  310. But you have to hand it to those Jews how they operate and quite capably. They were able to place a comedian actor at the head of a goy nation and then recruit a whole load of Neo Nazis to go and fight and die in droves for their cause, aims and goals, and are continuing to do the same despite all the losses. And then even many Russians and pro-Russians do not mention the Jews and their role in all this although it is so obvious, too obvious.

  311. EugeneGur says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The Friensdship treaty settled the matter inviolate borders between the two countries — and that was after the Crimea annexation.

    You are aware, aren’t you, what Ukraine denounced that treaty in 2019? This means that there is not a single piece of active legislation determining the borders between Russia and Ukraine.

    Russia acting bad faith to the requirement of the Minsk accords.

    There are no requirements in the MinskII regarding Russia, none whatsoever.

    Russia demanded assent but when called out for violating a primary condition — as acknowledged by the Minsk committee

    The primary condition of the MinskII was the change in the Ukrainian constitution. There should be a clause that granted broad autonomy to the Donbass region. I don’t see how Russia could have single-handedly changed the Ukrainian constitution. Perhaps, it will now.

    However Russia doesn’t want to abide the agreement, so the two parties can negotiate, thereby nullifying the Minks accords altogether.

    It’s remarkable how the entire Western world suddenly unlearned how to read when it comes to the Minsk agreement. The agreement is written in points, as clear as can be, for particularly obtuse. There is nothing in it for Russia to abide by. And yet Russia tried to keep that agreement, which Ukraine and the West ignored, alive for 8 years. Now it’s too little too late.

    • Thanks: Harold Smith
  312. @Chuck Orloski

    Obviously, the IAEA chief is cooperating with ZOG to start the pretext for war against Iran.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  313. Robertjb says: • Website

    Both US and Canada are deep in bloody red when it comes to their HI(Hypocrisy Index), and shamelessly so.

    https://diligentspectator.ca/canadas-utterly-hypocritical-ways-7296078a1417

  314. Z-man says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Hey Chuck.
    Cooperating? He’s in their pockets with deposits made to his favorite ZOG banks.

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
  315. anon[258] • Disclaimer says:

    Oh come off it, it’s not Joe Biden’s secret war, it’s lil’ Elbridge’s war. After Grampa Bill’s ghost got him the highly competitive merit Scholarship in Nepotistic Excellence at Harvard State, Junior did his college ratfuck internship, then got airdropped right into the NDS, din’t he? Where he advised the old vegetable that if he wanted to get over getting beat to shit by scrawny Mooslims with no socks, he should just fight allied nuclear great powers with insuperable advantages in mobilization and escalation.

    Lil’ Elbridge is the poster boy of nepotistic degeneration, huh? A little regression to the mean, a little groundless dynastic pride, and we got ourselfs a historic humiliation for the CIA regime! Elbridge is the Christian Buddenbrooks of the CIA family business. If this keeps up, Dad’s gonna let him have the keys to the family canoe on prom night.

  316. @EliteCommInc.

    “Laughing. Okay, for the third time, the issue is whether or not Russia recognizes Ukraine as a sovereign nation, not whether you can make some hapless pedantic argument that it is. According to Vladimir Putin “(Ukraine) has been reduced to a colony with a puppet regime.” Since Putin speaks for Russia and since “a colony with a puppet regime” is not a sovereign nation you are indisputably proven to be wrong. Why not just accept it and move on?”

    I provide documented evidence the Russia upon Ukrainian independence recognizes it.

    The only thing you’ve been able to demonstrate in this whole “discussion”, you moronic, lying clown, is that you have great difficulty in constructing a cogent, grammatically correct sentence.

    I even provide you a treaty in which it is recognized and further reference to negotiations between the two countries in which the Russians refer to Ukraine as Pres Zelenski’s country.

    Taking your statement at face value, so what? What does that prove? If someone refers to Germany, for example, as “Scholz’ country” how does that imply a recognition of German sovereignty? It doesn’t.

    But the R2P is not free floating policy. it’s one developed by the UN and s part and parcel to their governance. Like UNCLOS, which China would love to say is irrelevant.

    As I already endeavored to point out to you, it’s an emerging international norm. Once again, according to the UN web page you referred to:

    “The responsibility to protect embodies a political commitment to end the worst forms of violence and persecution. It seeks to narrow the gap between Member States’ pre-existing obligations under international humanitarian and human rights law and the reality faced by populations at risk of genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity.”

    It’s clear that Russia is acting in accordance with R2P doctrine by stopping the violence against the people living in the Eastern part of the lawless, jew-controlled territory of Ukraine.

  317. “Taking your statement at face value, so what? What does that prove? If someone refers to Germany, for example, as “Scholz’ country” how does that imply a recognition of German sovereignty? It doesn’t.”

    Uhh the treaty is between Russia and Ukraine. In it Russia recognizes Ukraine as a country with sovereign borders. That settles the matter and it does definitively. Russia acknowledges Ukraine as a nation with inviolate borders.

    Laugh. I am not sure you have noticed. but Russia has done no such thing. She has exacerbated any violence and in so doing engaged in violations all her own. The R2p was intended as “peace keeping” protocol to be engaged by various nations as objective barrier between partners. In the case of Russia, her conduct in violation of the mink Accords completely undermined her role \as a peace keeper and worse undermined the Minsk agreements.

    You are the typical progressive, you only lean on the status quo when it suits you but when all the evidence rebuts your position — you are ever falling back on

    It’s irrelevant anyway.

    Conducted under the auspices of UN , not sole actors claiming they are acting the spirit of the law as you are making the pitch. but even i were to allow such sloppy analysis, the OSCE Minsk response rebuts Russian conduct. Again at every turn, the organizations and processes that Russia calls upon to validate her conduct — not only fail to do so, they have on examination indicted her conduct against good order of the agenda Russia claims to honor.

    As i indicated anyone who says that all others are irrelevant in the end create their circle rationale for which no out reality or truth can penetrate. And why at the moment what matters most has been the rhetotic supporting the aggression, because it has no boundaries or limit.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  318. “You are aware, aren’t you, what Ukraine denounced that treaty in 2019? This means that there is not a single piece of active legislation determining the borders between Russia and Ukraine.”

    of course the friendship ended. Pres Putin called upon Minsk and then refused to abide by its guidelines to work out a peace and then claimed it was Ukraine that refused the agreement.

    Game set and match . . .

    “Under the administration of Pres Putin, Russia acknowledges that Ukraine is a country with inviolate borders. And the treaties end marks the end of friendship, it does not dismantle either country’s national standing or sovereignty.

    Contrary to your constant peculiar repeating mantra

    Pres Putin, does recognize Ukraine as a country, until he wanted to created some kind justification — which fails on its face and then upon examination.

    Your claims that Pres Putin and Russia were not a country and not recognized as such
    is now dead in the water.

  319. @fat-faced fuck in Poland

    Good good. You can keep warm while the vast majority of your worthless “people” will freeze or go mad max in the comblocks. I guess you can teach them how to replace central heating with branch-powered stoves, LOL.

    Stay warm and stay put. We will come to visit you last.

    Wenn bei Danzig die Polen Flotten ins Meer versinkt,
    Und das Deutschlandlied auf dem Marienburg erklingt!
    Dann zieht die Wehrmacht mit ihren Panzern in Breslau ein!
    Dann kehrt Deutschlands Osten endlich wieder heim!

    • Replies: @grettir
  320. here are some nails for this coffin,

    “It’s clear that Russia is acting in accordance with R2P doctrine by stopping the violence against the people living in the Eastern part of the lawless, jew-controlled territory of Ukraine.”

    The UN General assembly condemns Russia’s invasion. The UN, the developers of the r2p perspective. In otherwords, your suggestion that Russia is acting in the policy’s expression is rebuffed by the very organization that developed it.

    ———————-

    I am fully confident that North Korea will agree with Russia and you.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  321. @showmethereal

    And the USA has blocked the inspection process of the Biological Weapons Convention for about twenty years, (so it’s ‘bi-partisan’), behind which blockade they have spent tens, perhaps hundreds, of billions creating a gigantic global archipelago of bio-weapons research laboratories.

  322. @EliteCommInc.

    I even provide you a treaty in which it is recognized and further reference to negotiations between the two countries in which the Russians refer to Ukraine as Pres Zelenski’s country.

    “Taking your statement at face value, so what? What does that prove? If someone refers to Germany, for example, as “Scholz’ country” how does that imply a recognition of German sovereignty? It doesn’t.”

    Uhh the treaty is between Russia and Ukraine. In it Russia recognizes Ukraine as a country with sovereign borders. That settles the matter and it does definitively. Russia acknowledges Ukraine as a nation with inviolate borders.

    Uhh I was obviously referring to your implication that because (according to you) during some kind of negotiations “the Russians (referred) to Ukraine as Pres Zelenski’s country” it somehow supports your claim that Russia presently acknowledges Ukrainian sovereignty. As I pointed out, it does not.

    What treaty are you talking about? If it is any treaty before 2014 it is irrelevant to this “discussion” as it is clear that as a result of the unconstitutional coup of Feb 2014 “Ukraine” lost whatever sovereignty it may have had. Obviously it is post Feb 2014 “Ukraine” that Putin referred to as “a colony with a puppet regime.”

    The R2p was intended as “peace keeping” protocol to be engaged by various nations as objective barrier between partners.

    Sophistry; if the U.S. “government” can attack and/or invade Panama, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc., all of which are thousands of miles from its borders, surely Russia can invade the lawless territory of Ukraine to protect the lives, properties and rights of the people being attacked by extremists there and to restore order. The presence of the U.S. “government” run bioweapons labs on the lawless territory of Ukraine, alone, is sufficient justification for Russia’s special military operation.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  323. @fat-faced fuck in Poland

    The value of a race is in what it produces and what it has given to the world. We Germans don’t take a back seat to anyone in this regard. All over the planet German products are sought after! People want those BMW’s, Mercedes and Audis – not to mention all the other high-tech equipment that comes out of Germany.

    Polish products…..? Well, I did get a jar of plum butter a while back and yes, it was a “product of Poland.” It was pretty good, even though it did contain a chip of hard pit that I nearly broke a tooth on. The jar was probably from Germany, just to be safe it would work.

    Point is: if you gave the world a choice: you can have German products, or you can have the products of Pooland, which essentially means more low-IQ “taterheads,” what do you think the response would be?

  324. “What treaty are you talking about? If it is any treaty before 2014 it is irrelevant to this “discussion” as it is clear that as a result of the unconstitutional coup of Feb 2014 “Ukraine” lost whatever sovereignty it may have had. Obviously it is post Feb 2014 “Ukraine” that Putin referred to as “a colony with a puppet regime.”

    I posted the treaties in Russia and the English version.

    The “your country” comment comes out of the reference I posted with the comment.

    The treaty, the Friendship Treaty was ratified every year since its was first signed until 2019.

    Your argument is not with me. Your argument is with, the UN, the OSCE, and apparently even Russia. As i noted we have come to an end, Your insistence on calling everything irrelevant because it contradicts your position is a circle from which you cannot escape.

    goodness, the very fact that the two countries have a treaty is evidence of the same, the acknowledgements of inviolable borders seals it.

    Russia recognizes Ukraine as a country and acted accordingly

    Pres Putin’s woke moment is undermined by the official relationship with ukraine.

  325. Gonzalo Lira says the Americans are going to assassinate ‘elensky.

    Even if it’s just disinformation, such rumors are going to give ‘elensky sleepless nights. (Well, those rumors and the nose candy.)

    • Replies: @RobinG
  326. two separate nations, and if i wanted to press, i would make a case concerning Ukraine . . . but the waters there are less clear.

    https://www.dw.com/en/bound-by-treaty-russia-ukraine-and-crimea/a-17487632

    Russian and English version
    https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52240.pdf

    Treaty report
    https://archive.org/stream/russianukrainian00stew/russianukrainian00stew_djvu.txt

  327. RobinG says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Thanks for posting. Unfortunately, it’s totally plausible. The part about taking out the military leader as well is particularly evil. A while ago, was it Lira who thought that guy might remove ‘Elensky?

  328. @Harold Smith

    ElieComminc wants Europe to freeze, the world to starve, and everyone to die in a nuclear Holocaust just so he can make his point. But at least he’s principled, he opposed and condemned all of US/NATO wars and their infringement of international laws and violation of the sovereignty of other nations. But that is the past and Russia can’t be allowed to blackmail the world even if everyone has to die. Principles are principles to EliteComminc, and more valuable than anything. I suppose he believes there is life after death where justice will be dispensed to everybody so the quicker everyone get there the better.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  329. anastasia says:

    At this point, I will never understand the ordinary soldier staying in the military. When are they going to see what is plainly there to be seen?

  330. @RobinG

    Thanks, I sent that paper to friends a few days ago.
    As another remarks, Crooke is essential reading and that’s one of his best.
    The world is waking up to just what a destructive disaster USA is, not least to its own citizens also. Its heretofore reliance on shock and awe bombing is now outgunned by superior Russian and Chinese weaponry while its boots on the ground have been losers against whoever since WW2. Only Hollywood dupes don’t know this.

    There is taking place actively right now a major global realignment in which “the west” is being defeated (putting it bluntly) by having continued on an everlasting road of war, conquest and looting. But Russia-China isn’t Iraq (there will be payback for that one as well as others btw).
    It could have been different, early 90s Russia for example.
    But it’s USUK so it isn’t.

  331. @EliteCommInc.

    The UN General assembly condemns Russia’s invasion. The UN, the developers of the r2p perspective. In otherwords, your suggestion that Russia is acting in the policy’s expression is rebuffed by the very organization that developed it.

    You obviously don’t understand the UN. It’s the great purveyor of lofty ideals but beyond that, beyond shuffling papers, it’s useless. Why? Because of member state corruption, hypocrisy and (especially in the case of the U.S.) criminality and an organizational structure that results in political paralytic dysfunction. There are many historical examples of this.

    Trump violated Syrian sovereignty and attacked Syrian government forces several times, claiming he was protecting civilians from poison gas attacks by the Syrian government and that he was fighting terrorism, right? In essence Trump claimed to be acting under the aegis of R2P doctrine even if he didn’t mention it by name, right? Trump did these attacks without any evidence to support his claims. So where are the UN resolutions authorizing Trump’s actions in this case, for example?

  332. @Commentator Mike

    ElieComminc wants Europe to freeze, the world to starve, and everyone to die in a nuclear Holocaust just so he can make his point.

    In my experience his “point” is generally always in support of the destructive global agenda of the jewish collective.

    But at least he’s principled, he opposed and condemned all of US/NATO wars and their infringement of international laws and violation of the sovereignty of other nations. But that is the past and Russia can’t be allowed to blackmail the world even if everyone has to die. Principles are principles to EliteComminc, and more valuable than anything.

    That’s not how I see it at all. In my view he’s a completely unprincipled pedant. When challenged, he’ll do vague lip service e.g. denouncing “all wars” in an abstract sense, but then just like any other hypocritical concern troll, he’ll cherry-pick “facts,” take things out of context, engage in burdensome rhetorical misdirection e.g. with red herrings and strawmen, and generally always resort to pedantry (to the point of absurdity) to make his case.

    For example, one of the things I tried to explain to him during this “discussion” is that “sovereignty” to the extent it may exist in some context, is generally not absolute. I used an example of a domestic situation where a neighbor does something very dangerous on his property that could potentially wipe out the neighborhood, and that we have laws against doing that kind of thing i.e. “risking a catastrophe.” My point was that there’s a principle involved here. Obviously the laws against such things don’t exist for their own sake but to protect people: people have a right not to be threatened by what their neighbors are doing even if it’s on their own property. And how did he respond to this? With pedantry of course.

    What’s the difference whether my neighbor next door in town builds an illegitimate “lab” in which he’s experimenting with dangerous pathogens or whether I live near the Mexican border and the Mexican government is experimenting with dangerous pathogens in illegitimate labs near me (albeit on Mexican soil)? There is no practical difference. The U.S. government would presumably have a duty to protect U.S. citizens from dangerous pathogens which might escape from the Mexican lab just like the domestic state/local government would have a legitimate duty to protect people living in town. But according to EliteCommInc, apparently, there is no matter of principle involved here at all; the two situations are completely different and it is strictly a matter of laws and abstract boundary lines. Nothing is too absurd for EliteCommInc if it supports his point.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  333. @mulga mumblebrain

    Hmm. What do you make of that population graph RU featured recently in which there is ahuge anomaly for those who were born avout 1958? Prima facie it is strong evidence for Mao’s famine caused by the Great Leap Forward. Mind you I’ve seen other graphs of Chine population age distribution which seem to me very difficult to explain – like showing that the birthrate must have gone up just after the One Child policy was instituted.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  334. anon[333] • Disclaimer says:

    Harold Smith wins the Annie Sullivan Saintly Patience Award for treating EliteComm as a human despite his terminal Jew fragility.

    In particular, it’s true and crucial what Harold says about sovereignty. As the SecGen has said, “Sovereignty is responsibility.” Period. Full stop. When a state fails to protect peoples under its control from the gravest crimes, that state has failed. It is then subject to pillars 2 or 3 of R2P – not in its perverted US distortion but per Implementing the Responsibility to Protect.

    Russia, in addition to exercising its Article 51 rights, invoked R2P pillar 3 to meet its erga omnes responsibility to protect against Ukrainian breaches of jus cogens.

    Genocidal Zionazi EliteComm obsesses about R2P because he knows it will end the Jew State. He’s is annoying as only OCD Izzies can be, but at least this keeps him from shooting out the eyes and kneecaps of Palestine’s rightful inhabitants.

    • Thanks: Harold Smith
  335. aandrews says:

    https://stormer-daily.rw/2020-presidential-election-winner-donald-trump-calls-out-stupid-russia-war-hoax-again/

    Ultimately, it is more than 90% of Congresspeople that are on-board with war against Russia, ostensibly to save a democracy in the Ukraine which doesn’t exist.

    And yet: Trump is out there calling the whole thing bullshit.

    That’s real. That’s a big deal.

  336. annamaria says:
    @Ulf Thorsen

    Is there a single honorable general left in the US army? – Unlikely.
    “Five months into the Special Military Operation:” https://thesaker.is/five-months-into-the-special-military-operation-a-summary/

    If Kiev had any agency and if the Ukrainian leadership cared about their country and people, they would have immediately sued for peace. But Kiev never had any agency and the buffoons in power do not give a damn about the Ukrainian people.

    Instead, it was the US that told the Ukrainians to never surrender or pull back, even if that meant huge losses in both manpower and firepower. The West, which despises and hates the Ukrainians almost as much as it hates the Russians were delighted to see the hated Ukrainians and the hated Russians killing each other (well, mostly Russians doing the killing). Furthermore, being military incompetent, the leaders of the West apparently believed that supplying weapons, money, instructors, and special forces to the Ukrainians could, if not turn the tide, slow down Russia enough to create fear, uncertainty, and doubts in the Russian public opinion. That plan also spectacularly failed, Putin is as popular as ever, the 5th column and the 6th columns in Russia are in despair (many emigrate) and the SMO has the full support of the Russian nation.

  337. annamaria says:
    @Mr. Hack

    That was a post of a Ziocon shill.

  338. “You obviously don’t understand the UN. It’s the great purveyor of lofty ideals but beyond that, beyond shuffling papers, it’s useless. Why? Because of member state corruption, hypocrisy and (especially in the case of the U.S.) criminality and an organizational structure that results in political paralytic dysfunction. There are many historical examples of this.”

    Laughing. And yet here you are leaning on the UN.

    This is your bed of roses not mine. I did not make any claims that anything supports the invasion. I am responding to the defenses used by Russia, and his supporters. If you don’t like the bed you have made — don’t make it and for goodness gracious don’t sleep in it and the bed bugs are certainly old enough and large enough to see.

    The problem is with the internal arguments, once the structural rationale fails as it does on multiple levels in multiple ways . . . its very tough to defend. I simply examine the reasons for the conduct.

    —————————————

    Whether the UN is a “godsend” or something less is quite another matter. That is a discussion that surrounds its philosophy, agenda and its ability to enforce the same. That is another discussion, that has no bearing on the validity of the Russian invasion. I can certainly entertain that at some point. It certainly has a myriad of issues. Not the least of which is its ability enact and enforce policies – and human rights is a one of many.

    Your inability to express a cohesive defense is certainly a hurdle. You invoke the R2P. I say ok fine, let’s examine the R2P which you claim is a frame work for invasion. You claim it is emerging I say its been a round a while and it certainly is a principle in development to the the UN mandate — no issues. But it is a UN mandate. You then proceed to say that Russia is operating in the very name of the UN mandate. But the UN condemns Russia actions, so the mandated organization of the R2P does not support Russia. Your now complaining that the UN is corrupt. Laugh well ok . . .

    then why lean on a principle of a corrupt body to make your case — which is now conveniently corrupt because it invalidates your case. And here we are not talking about the problematic UN security council, bit the UN General Assembly that says Russia is wrong.

    Each and every time, some agency is invoked, I don’t knee jerk argue against it. I actually take the time to look at it and every time, I have found the complete opposite.

    [MORE]

    I did not bring up
    OSCE
    UN’s R2P
    You simply cannot pin those tails on this donkey.

    I am not that bright.
    And I don’t make any boasts about IQ or intelligence
    This is not a complex legal matter that would clearly overwhelm someone in my condition – made worse by another issue.

    But the issues have been consistent and the rhetorical patterns and rationales have not changed so in the end its the same model with different actors. With the foundations all askew, the finer elements cannot even be addressed.

    ———————

    Biolabs are not illegal . . . Russia has biolabs. Germany, England, France, China, etc all have biolabs. In fact, the biolabs in Ukraine were all once Russian labs due for destruction or being retrofitted for use for research. The propaganda stemming from COVID about biolabs and weaponing germs or virus’s is almost hohum — because such research is standard . . . as has become gene splicing and genetic manipulation — the debate about the morality and consequence rightfully goes on, but it is not illegal. Furthermore, there is not a shred of evidence that such research posed a threat to Ukrainians of anyone else. I just don’t buy the fear mongering on display and no evidence supports it. Russia has no mandate to dictate the the research in Ukraine – period. And

    There’s not even evidence that a drop of vinegar or iodine was spilled via careless application. And even if that were demonstrated, no risk to the general population at large.

    Since the Russia has no mandate in Ukraine and no threat from from bio research is demonstrated a threat — then any attempt to hopscotch rhetorically some rationale for invasion again fails.

    The Duty to protect means just that protect. If said labs were a biohazard, then Russia might have a mandate to engage in assistance in clean up or securing the sight. The contentions that Ukraine engaged in wholesale genocide in the course of the civil war has apparently failed the smell tests among the international community. Does not mean it has not occurred, but not on a scale requiring a breach of sovereignty as occurred in former Czechoslovakia.

    Case in point, the US must be actively threatened, the mere presence of drug cartels, murderers, rogue agents, and a duplicity Mexican government is for now not enough. When the previous executive was in office Mexican cartel/military personnel crossed the border of the US and detained at gunpoint, members of the US military — Executive Trump did absolutely nothing . . . less than nothing.

    —————————————-

    “The U.S. government would presumably have a duty to protect U.S. citizens from dangerous pathogens which might escape from the Mexican lab just like the domestic state/local government would have a legitimate duty to protect people living in town. But according to . . . apparently, there is no matter of principle involved here at all; the two situations are completely different and it is strictly a matter of laws and abstract boundary lines. Nothing is too absurd for . . . if it supports his point.”

    Entirely false. The principle is sovereignty. Not as theory, but as practice and here even the Russians acknowledge that the territorial integrity of both countries is inviolate. And while such borders may be crossed for some extraordinary reason, say an act of war against another country, then violating such principle — as sovereignty — general practice is that one heads off to some other legitimized organization to seek support. Russia fails on two levels

    1. OSCE — not only no case, but undermined attempts at peaceful settlement provoking further conflict and violating human rights in the sovereign country not their own
    2. UN — no case
    3. the international community at large by way of consensus says no

    Too many outstanding contradictions reject Russia defense for her conduct.

    ————————————

    You should realize that any credibility that executive Trump has on the issue of Russia is undermined, because he signed an intel report that indicted Russia for interfering in the US electoral process by sabotage, engaged in attempted murder and murder in the sovereign countries of our allies as well as interfering with their elections by sabotage.

    Every single count is a cause for war. And yet, Executive Trump did nothing. He literally threw Pres Putin under the bus. My bet is that Pres Putin sees his as weak and easily overcome. And his current position which contradicts the case he signed when he was elected that Russia is a threat to the US makes anything he says on the question deeply suspect and would reinforce the accusations that he is in fact a Russian asset.

    And both his rhetoric regarding Israel, India, Russia and Mexico in practice suggests that he is not the “America First” supporter he claims to be or have been.
    ———————————

    As for me and Israel. My political views are not in any manner hampered by faith and practice understanding. Laugh. But clearly as the record demonstrates, my support for Israel is not carte blanche’, much to my detriment. I could use a good “jewish lawyer” about now to coin a cliché’.

    Laugh. My position regarding Israel is well laid out here.

    As for nuclear war — eventually one just accepts that as always a possibility and it simply cannot be the barrier to conducting US foreign policy including our choice of dance partners, l’est we become impotent in the same and eventually at home.

    The time to have considered economics, destabilization, needless conflict, etc was when we needlessly invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and other careless strategically unwise foreign policy choices.

    As for my brain damage, sure. But I have refused to allow it to completely devastate my life. And I take my hits as they come. But for now on this issue — I remain where I came in. And it is confirmed by the responses.

    don’t hate Russians, Ukrainians . . . etc. Not even the point

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  339. annamaria says:
    @Quartermaster

    Is this you, Nuland-Kagan, lamenting about “bad” Russians ready to find “good” bio-weaponry labs in Ukraine? The bio-weaponry labs were established and run by the US/NATO with a “successful” increase in mortality in certain parts of Ukraine.

    The bio-weaponry labs are real; they are not your holobiz’ lies. Data from 2018: https://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/

    Pentagon contractors produce bio agents under diplomatic cover. … Ukraine has no control over the military bio-laboratories on its own territory. According to the 2005 Agreement between the US DoD and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine, the Ukrainian government is prohibited from public disclosure of sensitive information about the US program and Ukraine … The Pentagon has been granted access to certain state secrets of Ukraine in connection with the projects under their agreement.

    One of the Pentagon laboratories is located in Kharkiv, where in January 2016 at least 20 Ukrainian soldiers died from Flu-like virus in just two days with 200 more being hospitalized. The Ukrainian government did not report on the dead Ukrainian soldiers in Kharkiv. As of March 2016 364 deaths have been reported across Ukraine (81.3 % caused by Swine Flu A (H1N1) pdm09 – the same strain which caused the world pandemic in 2009).

  340. Bio research labs are not by definition bioweapons labs another rhetorical device meant to confuse and obfuscate . . . and of course fear mongering.

    Laugh never mind that the facilities in question were on under Russian operation. Good greif.

    What the US military involved in biological research — you don’t say . . . for the purpose of preparing defenses against such incidents as they might occur

    shocking I say shocking — save not at all

    https://www.globalbiolabs.org/map

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
  341. @JWalters

    “Biden is a total disaster”

    Biden may be a planned disaster

    No. Trump was a disaster. Biden is a catastrophe.

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
  342. annamaria says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    Please don’t forget the “native-born” traitors who would sell their mothers and children for personal power and comfort. McCain, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bushes, Biden, Clintons, the US army’s current high-echelon brass, the mega war profiteers of X-tian persuasion – the list is long. They opened the gates for the enemy and sold American and Americans to Usurers.

    • Thanks: Z-man
    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  343. @annamaria

    Hi annamaria!

    How did you forget Trump?

  344. @EliteCommInc.

    “You obviously don’t understand the UN. It’s the great purveyor of lofty ideals but beyond that, beyond shuffling papers, it’s useless. Why? Because of member state corruption, hypocrisy and (especially in the case of the U.S.) criminality and an organizational structure that results in political paralytic dysfunction. There are many historical examples of this.”

    Laughing. And yet here you are leaning on the UN.

    Laughing at your frank dishonesty and your child-like misrepresentation of practically everything I’ve said so far in this “discussion.”

    This is your bed of roses not mine.

    Laughing; as usual, what I’m actually saying and what you try to pretend I’m saying, are two different things.

    I did not make any claims that anything supports the invasion.

    Well of course you didn’t; you’re a jew troll so why would you?

    I am responding to the defenses used by Russia, and his supporters. If you don’t like the bed you have made — don’t make it and for goodness gracious don’t sleep in it and the bed bugs are certainly old enough and large enough to see.

    I like “the bed [I] have made”; that you can’t accept it reflects poorly on you, not on me.

    Whether the UN is a “godsend” or something less is quite another matter. That is a discussion that surrounds its philosophy, agenda and its ability to enforce the same. That is another discussion, that has no bearing on the validity of the Russian invasion. I can certainly entertain that at some point. It certainly has a myriad of issues. Not the least of which is its ability enact and enforce policies – and human rights is a one of many.

    Of course the point of my mentioning R2P was not to “lean on the UN” (or to give it any undeserved acclaim) but to point out that Russia is apparently acting in accordance with the fundament of the doctrine, i.e. an acknowledgement of “the principle that State sovereignty [carries] with it the obligation of the State to protect its own people, and that if the State was unwilling or unable to do so, the responsibility shifted to the international community to use diplomatic, humanitarian and other means to protect them.”

    Russia, as a responsible member of the international community and a sovereign state directly affected and threatened by the criminal activities occurring on the lawless territory of Ukraine, had every right to launch the special military operation.

    Your inability to express a cohesive defense is certainly a hurdle.

    Laughing. A “cohesive defense” to what exactly, your pedantry and your absurd misrepresentation of everything I say?

    You invoke the R2P. I say ok fine, let’s examine the R2P which you claim is a frame work for invasion. You claim it is emerging I say its been a round a while and it certainly is a principle in development to the the UN mandate — no issues. But it is a UN mandate.

    Once again, it’s not a “mandate” it’s an international norm; an “emerging” one according to some authors. Apparently you don’t know what an international norm is.

    “International norms: Widely shared expectations about what constitutes appropriate behavior among governments and certain non-state actors at the international level. Non-binding frameworks, such as voluntary codes of conduct or conventions, sometimes set the scene for more formal, binding agreements.”

    You then proceed to say that Russia is operating in the very name of the UN mandate. But the UN condemns Russia actions, so the mandated organization of the R2P does not support Russia. Your now complaining that the UN is corrupt. Laugh well ok . . .

    Once again, my position is that Russia is operating in accordance with the principle embodied in R2P doctrine: “the principle that State sovereignty [carries] with it the obligation of the State to protect its own people, and that if the State was unwilling or unable to do so, the responsibility shifted to the international community to use diplomatic, humanitarian and other means to protect them.” Whether or not “the UN” (as a body of corrupt members) agrees with Russia’s SMO is irrelevant, as the principle stands by itself.

    Biolabs are not illegal . . . Russia has biolabs. Germany, England, France, China, etc all have biolabs. In fact, the biolabs in Ukraine were all once Russian labs due for destruction or being retrofitted for use for research.

    Biolabs are not illegal. The U.S. has biolabs. The thing is, the U.S. has made threats against Russia and other countries. It’s a matter of public knowledge that the U.S. government seeks to destroy Russia. It’s a generally accepted fact that the U.S. “government” is run by madmen. There are many accusations that the U.S. in the past has used bioweapons against Cuba, North Korea and China. There is documented evidence of U.S. “government” considering/planning to use biological warfare against Cuban agriculture:

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32105754.pdf

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/docid-32423712.pdf

    There are credible accusations by U.S. based experts that the U.S. “government” has been doing illegal bioweapons research/development under the guise of “threat assessment:

    https://irp.fas.org/threat/cbw/biodefense.pdf

    The jew “think tank” PNAC has published a document “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” in which it is suggested (p. 60) that: “… advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.”

    And it looks like the U.S. is engaged in research toward that end:

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1257564.shtml

    On balance, the circumstantial evidence suggests that the U.S. “government” is engaged in illegal bioweapons development. Russia had every right to invade Ukraine on that basis alone.

    I’ve got no more time for your your hapless BS right now.

  345. On balance, the circumstantial evidence suggests that the U.S. “government” is engaged in illegal bioweapons development. Russia had every right to invade Ukraine on that basis alone.

    I’ve got no more time for your your hapless BS right now. Well said as you look in the mirror. I only had to read what I have quoted above to see the signs of insanity or maybe just grandiosity.

    Forget the legal aspect as I can’t expect you to understand that. You are saying that circumstantial evidence, without s dispassionately conducted trial is enough reason to subject Ukrainian civilians to death, wounding and destruction of their homes and cities. You say that inferences about what Americans may be doing on Ukrainian soil justifies all that savagery against the Ukrainians. And that is without examining the methods of warfare against Ukraine said to be justified because America may be misusing their tenure of old Soviet labs tha they have been using.

  346. @Wizard of Oz

    You would say that, wouldn’t you?

    What an emotionally laden outburst. Was it the same, your response I mean, when you were witnessing the attacks on Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.?

  347. “Of course the point of my mentioning R2P was not to “lean on the UN” (or to give it any undeserved acclaim) but to point out that Russia is apparently acting in accordance with the fundament of the doctrine, i.e. an acknowledgement of “the principle that State sovereignty [carries] with it the obligation of the State to protect its own people, and that if the State was unwilling or unable to do so, the responsibility shifted to the international community to use diplomatic, humanitarian and other means to protect them.”

    More rhetorical gymnastics. The bed you made

    1. Ukraine not a country —- well treaty and practice by Russia contradicts you.

    2. R2P justifies the invasion — no it doesn’t and Russia is not operating in said interests as russia’s conduct in indicted by

    a. OSCE vitally important here because the Minsk accords, w2hich Russia undermined also undermines any claims that Russia has to fostering peace or establishing an environment to administer aide and instead now acknowledges that Russia is herself guilty of the crimes she claims against Ukraine. And furthermore recognizes that the conflict is a civil conflict and not a case of genocide

    b. the UN

    c. the international community at large reject Russia cause of action.

    d. no evidence that any labs of any kind posed a threat to Ukrainians nor 0ther countries.

    3. having lost the matter, you are now having to create some sensible cause of threat and introduce the strategic plans and informational tactics that a country would use in case of war

    — again a failure. Most countries have strategies for war, including Russia they are not threats, but internal dialogues of what to do in case of war in an of themselves not a threat at all.

    unfortunately for you, the talk of propaganda wars are not new, nor are they a cause of action for war — strategic plans and responses of what to do in cases of war to defend oneself or defeat an opposition force are not active cases for invasion.

    The proof is in the pudding, in the case of yourself and Russia there isn’t even any pudding.

    The evidence is that The US in unison with the Ukraine engaged in securing former Russia biolabs and some cases with the aid of Ukraine retrofitted said labs for research and development pf dangerous diseases. Not a crime, not a threat and no evidence makes a case that said research was intended as an offensive attack against any country.

    There simply is no case for invading Ukraine. And there is every reason for the international community to support ukraine in its defense. And based on the rationale provide by the kremlin, every reason for Europe and the US to be prepared for war and commence communicating in then language chosen by Russia before she begins a process of dismantling other countries by way of their nonright to exist

    sooner rather than later.

    Ukraine gets to fight for her territorial integrity, even if the threat comes from inside and agitating forces from without.

  348. @Wizard of Oz

    I’ve got no more time for your your hapless BS right now.

    Sorry for the imposition; please get back to your much more important business of painting swastikas on your front door, defrauding your insurance co., etc.

    Well said as you look in the mirror.

    You’re lying. I just checked and there are no jews (e.g. you) behind me or anywhere else in the vicinity, so I must be referring to EliteComm(unist)Inc.

    I only had to read what I have quoted above to see the signs of insanity or maybe just grandiosity.

    So something I said triggered your introspection? Well that’s an encouraging sign. Maybe now you can follow-up by presenting yourself to a mental health professional (or an exorcist) and get the care/treatment you need.

    Forget the legal aspect as I can’t expect you to understand that.

    Aw c’mon, gimme a chance. When jews and/or their proselytes do something manifestly evil (which is pretty much all the time), it’s always “legal” and “proper” no matter the context, but when somebody else does the same thing (or for that matter practically anything that jews don’t like) it’s “illegal” and “immoral” right? What’s so difficult about that concept?

    You are saying that circumstantial evidence, without s dispassionately conducted trial is enough reason to subject Ukrainian civilians to death, wounding and destruction of their homes and cities.

    No, that’s what you are saying. Maybe an analogy will help clear things up in your “mind”?

    Suppose a cop sees me driving down the street in an erratic manner and speeding, and he accordingly has reason to suspect that I may be intoxicated so he pulls me over to investigate (he has a duty to protect society from the danger posed by intoxicated drivers, right?).

    And he asks to see my license, vehicle registration and insurance information and he asks me to submit to a sobriety test, but I refuse to cooperate. During the conversation he smells alcohol and sees empty beer cans on the floor of my car, so he attempts to arrest me for DUI, but I produce a gun and a shootout ensues. During the shootout, one of the cop’s bullets hits and kills an innocent bystander.

    Is the cop to blame for the death of the bystander? No. All the cop wanted to do was to verify that I was not driving drunk and that I therefore did not pose a threat to the community that he is supposed to be protecting. If I hadn’t refused his reasonable request to cooperate in the first place, the bystander would not be dead. If I hadn’t forcefully resisted, none of this would’ve happened. It was my conduct that led to the death of the bystander so I would be morally and legally responsible for the death of the bystander.

    Just like the cop has a duty to protect the community from drunk drivers, Russia has a duty to protect people (people both inside of Russia and on the lawless territory of Ukraine), from the treachery of the criminals running wild on the lawless territory of Ukraine. Just like I had chance to peacefully cooperate with the cop’s reasonable request to show that I did not pose a threat to the community, but I refused, the U.S. “government” could’ve cooperated by showing it was not engaged in illegal and immoral biological warfare research/development, but it refused.

    It is the corrupt jew-controlled U.S. “government” and the corrupt jew-controlled Ukraine puppet “government” that are fully responsible for the military conflict taking place on the territory of Ukraine.

    Every person who dies as a result of Russia’s special military operation in the lawless territory of Ukraine was murdered by the jew-controlled U.S. “government” and the jew-controlled puppet “government” operating in the lawless territory of Ukraine.

  349. @EliteCommInc.

    There are many countries that once were: Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Prussia, etc. Why this sudden concern to preserve the Ukraine? Hmm … perhaps because it’s been turned into an anti-Russia.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  350. geokat62 says:

    Latest Commentary article…

    Is Russia a Terror State?
    by Noah Rothman

    https://www.commentary.org/noah-rothman/is-russia-a-terror-state/

    No, Occupied Palestine is.

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
  351. geokat62 says:

    You can fool some of the people…

    Telegram comment posted by Raging Dissident:

    A big part of the problem is, the majority of the public is still largely in the dark about the systemic widespread corruption that plagues us. Though we’re catching up, too many still watch the professional wrestling and think that it’s real.

    Many people can be reached through compassionate engagement. They’re simply ignorant. Most people don’t react well to discovering they’ve been lied to and ripped off.

    As for the rest, that aggressively push cultural marxist doctrine while foaming at the mouth, can’t be helped. They don’t want help. They hate you, they want you to die, and we can’t co exist.

    https://t.me/RagingDissidentII/5233

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
  352. “There are many countries that once were: Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Prussia, etc. Why this sudden concern to preserve the Ukraine? Hmm … perhaps because it’s been turned into an anti-Russia.”

    I am not anti-Russian. There are those that are. That really is a side issue, because whether Ukraine, Russia . . . Poland, etc are likeable has nothing to do with their sovereignty.

    In the case of Kosovo, Serbia . . there was clear evidence of genocide, even the Russians acknowledged that Serbia had gone too far. And out of those conflicts reflecting those circumstances along with Rwanda, intervention was warranted by the international community.

    Russia’s rationale just does not make the grade and portends to something more expansive.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  353. Odyssey says:

    If I remember, you were officially registered as a moron, considering your IQ<60. Clear evidence. I was expecting that you would be asked to find a blog correlated to your IQ level. The worst thing is when low IQ is accompanied with a tendency of lying without any shame what is exactly your case. When your notice period expires?

  354. Odyssey says:
    @Commentator Mike

    #369 was directed at him/her/whatever (#368)

  355. @Wizard of Oz

    A nuclear war will have no effect on the markets – because the markets will cease to exist. Even if I withdraw the investments and turn them into gold or silver, there is no certainty I will survive the nuclear war.

    If I survive, and the markets survive too, I am good; if I survive, but the markets do not, then again I am happy I survived; if I die and the markets are vaporized, I won’t be around to take the losses, I am good.

    Therefore I will ignore the nuclear war in my investment calculations.

  356. Laugh . . .

    So that someone with my low IQ, such as myself, and it is most likely lower than 60, understands the concept of nations and nation states and what makes a country a country gets it . . . based on the record and the practices of the two counties in question with each other and others

    I am unclear what it says about the value of a high IQ if those with higher IQ’s who apparently don’t. And worse, actually contend the idea is so relative that one can wake up one morning and decide a country is not really a country . . . and further, they never were a country.

    It certainly is not a positive on the value of IQ to real politick, muchless the real world.

  357. @EliteCommInc.

    More rhetorical gymnastics. The bed you made

    Aw c’mon chump, we both know that if I said the dog ran after the ball you’d say the same thing.

    1. Ukraine not a country —- well treaty and practice by Russia contradicts you.

    On the contrary, no matter how many times you repeat this false assertion, there is no “treaty and practice by Russia” which contradicts anything I’ve said. For the nth time: to the extent that Ukraine could ever have been reasonably deemed a sovereign country in the first place, that is certainly not the case subsequent to the unconstitutional coup of Feb. 2014, whereupon Ukraine became – according to Vladimir Putin (and anyone else paying attention) – “a colony with a puppet regime.”

    R2P justifies the invasion — no it doesn’t and Russia is not operating in said interests as russia’s conduct in indicted by

    (snip appeal to corrupt/politicized “authority”)

    First of all, since by an apparent overwhelming majority the Russian people agree with the Russian government’s SMO in the lawless territory of Ukraine, then for moral, philosophical, political and discussive purposes Russia = the Russian people = the Russian government = a true sovereign acting in defense of legitimate interests. Russia’s right to act in self-defense in this case rests upon the pre-political God-given right of the Russian people to defend themselves and their legitimate interests; it does not come from the UN or any other man-made organization, your pedantry notwithstanding.

    R2P doctrine is just an acknowledgement of this truth albeit as framed by a corrupt man-made organization, but the underlying principle is valid and applicable in this case. As I have already pointed out, Sovereign Russia is legitimately defending itself and the people being victimized on the lawless territory of Ukraine from the criminals running wild on the lawless territory of Ukraine, and it is doing so in accordance with “the principle that State sovereignty carries with it the obligation of the State to protect its own people, and that if the State was unwilling or unable to do so, the responsibility shifted to the international community to use diplomatic, humanitarian and other means to protect them,” which is the fundament of R2P doctrine.

    That the corrupt/politicized body known as the “UN” may denounce Russia’s SMO in the lawless territory of Ukraine (e.g. by way of UN General Assembly Resolution ES-11/1) is at best irrelevant. Since it is Russia that is being directly threatened and since the people being mass murdered in Eastern Ukraine have strong ties to Russia, it is up to the people of Russia to decide how to handle the situation; it is not up to Paraguay, Somalia, Trinidad and Tobago, Fiji, etc.; capisce?

    Moreover, what makes UN General Assembly Resolution ES‑11/1 far worse than merely irrelevant in this case is that fact that the mass murdering NATO warmongers who bombed Yugoslavia and participated in attacks on Syria, for example, had the audacity to vote against Russia’s SMO. The in-your-face hypocrisy of the U.S., UK, France, Spain, Canada, etc. is beyond breathtaking. Isn’t it just like you, chump, to pretend that such a tainted vote from such a corrupt organization has some kind of legitimacy?

    d. no evidence that any labs of any kind posed a threat to Ukrainians nor 0ther countries.

    No evidence other that the preponderant circumstantial evidence that would terrify any reasonable person paying attention; this statement of yours is so absurd on its face as to be self-refuting.

    And with this I may take a break from from your infantile jew drivel for a while.

  358. Wow Oyve . veh . . .

    The constitutionality of a country’s events, conduct, beliefs has no merit to justify anyone else invading. Civil wars are nonunique in a nation’s history.

    Circular: Ukraine is not a country because because Pres Putin’s says its not and Russians agree. Well, aside from those willing to risk voicing an opinion.

    But more importantly, the practices between the two countries make it abundantly clear —

    1. Friendship Treaty despite not being ratified — in 2019/18, makes it clear that Russia recognizes Ukraine’s sovereignty. In fact, expressed regret that they allowed the treaty to lapse. Strange that, but there’s nothing new here.

    2. Minsk accords despite failing were accords concerning a sovereign Ukraine.

    3. Hate to break it to you — nothing and no one agrees that Russia had a made a case that Ukraine was a threat to Russia. If one takes your call to popular opinion seriously, then the majority of the international community rejects Russia’s claims in total. And of course whatever dissenting opinions might dare says so.

    4. I think we can forgoe the “defending their people routine”. It was decided in 1991, that the Ukraine is not Russia or a Russian property.

    a. Even if one wanted to buy your “lawless” contention and I don’t nor do most of those outside Russia. There are those in Russia that have been making a case that the kremlin and Russia itself is a vast Mafia lawless of corruption ranked very near the upper theirs of corruption in which official routinely violate the laws of the land. And that does not justify another country’s invasion of the same.
    b. lawless in Ukraine is Ukraine’s issue. I would be sympathetic if Russia abided by the same demands it expects of Ukraine. But when they made the choice to reject the OSCE mandates, they invalidated any claims against Ukraine. The one pressing law should be themselves law abiding.

    c. and here’s the jig, I was going to be gentle on the matter, but as your circle remains unbroken — Ukraine was defending those Ukrainians who were not interested in breaking away. Now that is the R2P in practice. Ukrainians defending Ukrainians from those seeking to sever them from the

    “god given right”

    to be Ukrainian as opposed to the ambitions of those seeking to torment them into joining a foreign land. There’s a circle you can spin around in for abit.

    The hole just gets deeper.

    My hurt feelings does not entitle me to invasion of another’s place. Again, I did not raise the the OSCE or the UN protocols of R2P — as for corruption, well Russia made those claims during the Kosovo-Serbian affair, but was overwhelmed by the actual evidence, not circumstantial, in fact, they rejected the circumstantial perspectives.

    And in the case of biolabs, you don’t even have circumstantial evidence and even less that has links one to the other.

    Neither the Soviet Union nor The Russian Federation are one country and upon their break up, other countries went their own way and for that did Russia formerly assented and has conducted itself in the disposition ever since.

    Next you’ll be telling me that those fleeing Russia’s invasion consequence into Russia prefer Russia. Not only would that be a force by circumstance, one has to wonder why they didn’t live in Russia if that is what they preferred.

    Mountain air I guess.

    —————————

    look your case here would have more integrity if you simply said the following. Russia after years of Soviet emulsion lives in a state of constant fear and has yet to recover. We are knife’s edge suspicious and believe that the only order is to make it so by force to our liking. We simply have not developed enough to rust the circumstances we cannot control — so we invaded. We care not about international law or order — just our will.

    The reality that is the reality we make.

    —————————-

    Should come as no surprise that former communists are falling back on their relative world dynamic. Living in a democratic reality is for country’s of sterner stuff. By stern one is not referring to how many others one can bully to their will.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  359. @EliteCommInc.

    That’s called being thin skinned.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  360. annamaria says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Learn to be concise: https://thesaker.is/open-thread-for-today-5/

    Divided loyalty should be openly discussed

  361. “Learn to be concise: https://thesaker.is/open-thread-for-today-5/&#8221;

    Concise version: Russia has no business being in Ukraine.

    ———

    And no whirlwind tour is going to change that. Of course Russia is going to rebuild relations with her past communist allies. That makes perfect sense.

    It does not justify Russia’s invasion. What Mr. Lavrov calls some new order is but a reflection of the old cod war alliances. Africa remains one of the most mineral rich continents on the planet. I am not sure African politeness translates into support, afterall, I am sure Africans are well aware of the comments regarding Russia being the great white hope

    I have no idea what divided loyalty means. The invasion of Ukraine is not a bridge I will cross.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  362. @EliteCommInc.

    The war in the Ukraine is a civil war, Ukrainian or Russian, but a civil war nevertheless.

  363. @Wizard of Oz

    As your Ukronazi fascist idols get defeated, you, like most Western thugs, grow ever more ludicrous in your invective. The bio-labs in fascist puppet ‘Ukraine’, part of a vast US archipelago of such facilities around the world, were known for years. The US Embassy in Kiev even published details of contracts for work there.
    The Russians attacked your Nazi friends as they prepared for a blitzkrieg on the Donbass, like the US-organised Operation Storm in Krajina in 1992. That is ethnic cleansing plus genocide, SOP in the Yankee Empire that you so grovelingly worship. So Russia was acting according to the ‘Responsibility to Protect’ doctrine, and pre-emptive defense, ie ‘jus ad bellum’. As for ‘savagery’ most is confected, and NOTHING beside the butchery that the USA and its running-dogs like your little mate ‘Honest’ John Howard et al, inflicted on Iraq, based on KNOWN lies.

  364. @Wizard of Oz

    The Chinese themselves acknowledge the great suffering of the years at the end of the 50s and beginning of the 60s. There was a great drought, and the Great Leap Forward chaos. A mistake that will never occur again. Nothing changes the fact that under Mao Chinese life expectancy grew from less than thirty to nearly seventy, the fastest and greatest such leap in history. I’d ask you to acknowledge that, but ‘d hate to see you black-balled at the Melbourne Club or IPA.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  365. “The war in the Ukraine is a civil war, Ukrainian or Russian, but a civil war nevertheless.”

    Oy veh.

    The minute Russia crossed the border, the war was transformed into an international conflict. Now when Russia was supplying advisors and material i would certain lend some ground to a civil conflict. However, that has changed

    it is now an international conflict.

    civil war is conflict among a nations population. internal members
    —–

    As long as supporters continue to play loosely with the understandings regarding relations among and between nations, on can always rhetoric a something to suit one’s mood. And that is what makes Russia and the kremlin as woke as the rest.

    everything is a moveable smorgashbourg to suit one’s desires. raw power politics at the same time they are claiming to create some new order — by the looks of it it is not new, not by a long shot.

    misleading propaganda has certainly not been lost on the Kremlin.

    • Disagree: Commentator Mike
  366. @EliteCommInc.

    To this day people call the war in Spain the Spanish Civil War even though the German and Italian military were actively involved in it, and not just by supplying advisors and weapons but by bombing and Italy providing 80,000 members of its military to support Franco.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  367. @EliteCommInc.

    Genocide in Kosovo was mostly committed by the goat-fuckers. They profited from that by means of selling body-parts from murdered Serbians. The U\$\$A and the mass mindfuck media was all fine with that…it enabled the development of Camp Bondsteel.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  368. @Commentator Mike

    Hi Commentator Mike!

    Also, the staunch Catholic, Franco, asked Germany to bomb Guernica, which was the first aerial bombing of a civilian population.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  369. @Chuck Orloski

    Yes. Not sure about the “first”. Germany bombed English towns and cities using airplanes and zeppelins during WWI killing many civilians.

    https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/london_bombing_of#:~:text=Germany’s%20aerial%20bombing%20campaign%20against,resulted%20in%20almost%205%2C000%20casualties.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  370. @Commentator Mike

    Thanks, Mike, and I apologize for my Rush to Judgement.

  371. @EliteCommInc.

    The minute Russia crossed the border, the war was transformed into an international conflict.

    No; it became an “international conflict” when the U.S. government fostered the 2014 coup against Yanukovych.

    As long as supporters continue to play loosely with the understandings regarding relations among and between nations, on can always rhetoric a something to suit one’s mood.

    Which is exactly what dishonest supporters of the evil empire (like you) are doing.

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
  372. “To this day people call the war in Spain the Spanish Civil War even though the German and Italian military were actively involved in it, and not just by supplying advisors and weapons but by bombing and Italy providing 80,000 members of its military to support Franco.”

    None3 of those countries entered the fray as nation states. They did provide support, material, goods etc., but none entered by way of sending in troops. And there were a contingents of non Spaniards that fought one one side of the other.

    But no nation state invaded on behalf of either side. That would have changed matters considerably —

    There is the exception of Guernica air raids. But that raid was in support of the government in power taking on rebels. In the case of Ukraine Russia’s invasion is against the established government and that makes the matter entirely different. And while both were condemned, Spanish action was at the behest and in support of the established authority – despite the dispute.

    As I say forever mangling meaning to fit one’s agenda such that everything becomes relative, no different than woke agendas that mangle both biological and traditional boundaries to justofy their agenda.

    Cliche’: the devil is in the details usually, but in the case of Russia’s invasion, even the frame is built on relative gymnastics. A game of pinning the tale on the donkey in which for your position everything qualifies as the donkey in question, regardless of the fact that what are actually donkeys are actually elephants, giraffes, water buffalos and snakes, lots of snakes . . .

    but real power politics in this scenarios cannot stand distinctions because those very real distinctions nullify the justification for invasion and fear mongering.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  373. “No; it became an “international conflict” when the U.S. government fostered the 2014 coup against Yanukovych.”

    It was not an international war.

    Sure there was support for one side over the other to counter Russia’s interference in the same, I have never contended otherwise. However, those that Russia supported apparently lost. And now incapable of rolling for another day and perhaps some other way are intent on wiping the board clean by way of force.

    Poor losers . . . it okay to hate losing. Its quite another to toss the chess board . . . in a tamper tantrum.

    ——————————-

    “Which is exactly what dishonest supporters of the evil empire (like you) are doing.”

    There certainly has been some unfortunate “untoward” goings on. But defending Ukraine is not one of them.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  374. “Genocide in Kosovo was mostly committed by the goat-fuckers. They profited from that by means of selling body-parts from murdered Serbians. The U\$\$A and the mass mindfuck media was all fine with that…it enabled the development of Camp Bondsteel.”

    I won’t debate the careers of those that engaged in the actions that led to intervention, one that even Russia, finally admitted was justifiable given the scale of misconduct. And there is no question that both sides went overboard, but obviously even the Russians called out the Serbs specifically. Even they thought the Serb conduct beyond the pail.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  375. @EliteCommInc.

    “No; it became an “international conflict” when the U.S. government fostered the 2014 coup against Yanukovych.”

    It was not an international war.

    By U.S. “government” standards, meddling in another country’s presidential politics most certainly is an act of war. If the alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election of 2016 was considered an “act of war” – as it apparently was across the political spectrum in the U.S. – then certainly the U.S. government’s interference in Ukraine – which was far worse that anything Russia was accused of doing – was an act of war.

    “Democratic lawmakers are publicly calling out Russia for engaging in ‘war’ by meddling in the U.S. presidential election.”

    “Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that Russia’s attempts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election could be considered an ‘act of war’ against the U.S. ”

    “Sen. John McCain said Friday that Russia’s alleged meddling in the 2016 presidential election amounted to an “act of war.’”

    https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/325606-democrats-step-up-calls-that-russian-hack-was-act-of-war/

    https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/325928-cheney-russian-election-interference-could-be-act-of-war/

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/30/politics/mccain-cyber-hearing/index.html

    If the U.S. “government” did not interfere in Ukraine, there would not now be a kinetic proxy way going on between Russia and U.S./NATO on the now lawless territory of Ukraine. So it’s clear that the U.S. government committed an act of war against both the Ukrainian people and the Russian people.

    Sure there was support for one side over the other to counter Russia’s interference in the same, I have never contended otherwise.

    First, prove that Russia directly interfered in Ukraine in an illegitimate way damaging to Ukrainian sovereignty and that they did so on a scale similar to what the U.S. apparently did. And second, to the extent Russia did demonstrably “interfere” in any way whatsoever in Ukraine (prior to 2014), why shouldn’t they, since they share a common border and have many long-standing political, economic, ethnic and cultural ties?

    “However, those that Russia supported apparently lost. And now incapable of rolling for another day and perhaps some other way are intent on wiping the board clean by way of force.”

    However, those that Russia supported “apparently lost” because the opposition cheated.

  376. @EliteCommInc.

    Mind you, at that time the weakened Russian government was trying to make nice with the imperial powers, so they played ball with the Evil Empire on that one. The current administration in the Kremlin would not commit such a weak-kneed policy.

  377. “By U.S. “government” standards, meddling in another country’s presidential politics most certainly is an act of war. If the alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election of 2016 was considered an “act of war” – as it apparently was across the political spectrum in the U.S. – then certainly the U.S. government’s interference in Ukraine – which was far worse that anything Russia was accused of doing – was an act of war.”

    I will take some responsibility for your trip off rails. The conflict in ukraine is the interference i am talking about. The conflict that resulted in the change of government. That is the issue that i am referring to regarding meddling.

    The 2016 US election was nearly two years later. I am not interjecting that issue into the battle internally over Ukraine. The Russians and the proleaning Russian government lost and upon losing started a war to break up Ukraine, which has led the conditions that now exist.

    The US elections had no0 bearing on that and i am not at all interjecting convoluted mess into the civil dynamics and now international war between Ukraine and Russia.

    I am talking about the two sides in Ukraine including Russian and US operatives.
    ——————————-

    I have responded to the comments regarding the former executive in the WH Donald Trump, concerning Russian interference — which has no real evidence to support the claims. but that is not at all what I am talking about. I have never and did not inject that issue into what is happening in Ukraine in any way.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  378. @mulga mumblebrain

    I would be happy to see proof – including the very complicated actuarial stat’s which I would expect. And I should be very interested in the nuts and bolts of how it was achieved. Come to think of it cutting infant deaths would have been the biggest item. That would have meant sudden leaps in the number of 5 to 15 year olds and (or 1 to 15)) and I’m not sure how that works through the reported figures/official stat’s. No doubt the CCP under Mao was much better at providing poor people with healthcare than just about any poor country except Cuba.

  379. @EliteCommInc.

    “By U.S. “government” standards, meddling in another country’s presidential politics most certainly is an act of war. If the alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election of 2016 was considered an “act of war” – as it apparently was across the political spectrum in the U.S. – then certainly the U.S. government’s interference in Ukraine – which was far worse that anything Russia was accused of doing – was an act of war.”

    I will take some responsibility for your trip off rails. The conflict in ukraine is the interference i am talking about. The conflict that resulted in the change of government. That is the issue that i am referring to regarding meddling.

    Obviously, the “conflict” in Ukraine began with the coup d’etat of Feb 2014, which was fostered by the U.S. “government.” The coup was an act of war perpetrated against both the people of Ukraine and the people of Russia by the Satanic U.S. “government.” It was not the advent of Russia’s SMO that made the conflict “international” because it was an “international” conflict from the beginning.

    The 2016 US election was nearly two years later. I am not interjecting that issue into the battle internally over Ukraine.

    Exactly, you certainly did not; rather, I “interjected” it so as to refute your apparent implication that such a coup is not an act of war.

    The Russians and the proleaning Russian government lost and upon losing started a war to break up Ukraine, which has led the conditions that now exist.

    You misrepresent the situation. As a result of the unconstitutional coup fostered by the Satanic U.S. “government,” all the people of Ukraine lost. And it is by now painfully obvious that the whole point of the coup was to install a ruthless puppet government in Kiev and use Ukraine as a weapon against Russia.

    The US elections had no0 bearing on that and i am not at all interjecting convoluted mess into the civil dynamics and now international war between Ukraine and Russia.

    See above.

    I am talking about the two sides in Ukraine including Russian and US operatives.

    As I’ve already pointed out to you, the conflict in Ukraine began with the coup of Feb 2014 and it was an international conflict from the beginning.

    I have responded to the comments regarding the former executive in the WH Donald Trump, concerning Russian interference — which has no real evidence to support the claims. but that is not at all what I am talking about. I have never and did not inject that issue into what is happening in Ukraine in any way.

    Once again, I mentioned the U.S. “government” response to alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election (i.e. it was deemed an “act of war” by both major political parties), because in comment #390 you said “[i]t was not an international war,” implying that the coup was not an act of war which is obviouly not true. I hope this clears things up for you.

  380. @EliteCommInc.

    There is the exception of Guernica air raids. But that raid was in support of the government in power taking on rebels… Spanish action was at the behest and in support of the established authority – despite the dispute.

    I think you may need to re-read your history. The republican government was the established recognised authority of Spain and Franco and the phalangist were the rebels.

    And Italy’s involvement was a little more than just providing aid. It’s just that Italy doesn’t border Spain while Russia does.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  381. “Mind you, at that time the weakened Russian government was trying to make nice with the imperial powers, so they played ball with the Evil Empire on that one. The current administration in the Kremlin would not commit such a weak-kneed policy.”

    I might buy this contend if Russia was under some constraint, but she was not. Furthermore, Russia might have been weaker with respect to size. But Russia was never going to leave the world stage. The end of the Soviet Union did not mean and end to Russian power. Nor was she cowed and more than she had previously, which was not all. The end of the Soviet Union and there consideration of democracy was always going to be a longer road for them than for her satellites. And even t5hey struggle with what the idea of less central authority.

    But it is an error to consider the Russians at that time any kind of pushover. The battle inside Russia is the battle over identity, status and grappling with the sense of lack of control that comes with democracy. I don’t think that going back is possible.

    The younger generations don’t get just how pervasive life was with that level of state control. I suspect that if the designers in the Kremlin get their way they will, and they will chafe under the pressure.

    You cannot blame the west for attempting to recreate that world . . . and the result.

    —————-

    No the Russians became convinced that the Serbs were once again putting them in a tough spot based on the evidence and expressed as much.

    It may be that Russia is putting others in a tough spot time will tell.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  382. “Mind you, at that time the weakened Russian government was trying to make nice with the imperial powers, so they played ball with the Evil Empire on that one. The current administration in the Kremlin would not commit such a weak-kneed policy.”

    I don’t buy that. Their opposition was pretty clear and faulted all of the parties, they themselves decided that Serbia had gone too far.

    —————————————–
    Russia and Ukraine

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/05/15/top-5-myths-about-us-meddling-in-ukraine-a35488

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/12/1080205477/history-ukraine-russia

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-crisis-in-Crimea-and-eastern-Ukraine

    any suggestion that the presence of Russian troops in Crimea was not provo9cative given the tensions regarding and the pre-existing agreements is is playing loose and fast with reality.

    http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/986/the-euromaidan-revolution-in-ukraine-stages-of-the-maidan-movement-and-why-they-constitute-a-revolution

    http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/986/the-euromaidan-revolution-in-ukraine-stages-of-the-maidan-movement-and-why-they-constitute-a-revolution

    ———————————-

    why those who support Russia are dead in the water on Russian involvement in Ukraine

    1. you say Ukraine is not a country and never has been as such there are then no barriers to her involvement in Ukrainians affairs. It literally bogles the mind, now to contend t5hat Russia respected the boundaries they and you claim don’t exist.

    2. the involvement by Russia need not have been illegal anymore than that of the US support was,

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  383. Odyssey says:
    @emerging majority

    The guy is a liar, par excellence. He prepared couple sentences and repeats them every time. He cannot say anything specific. Yeltsin complained something to Serbs? With IQ<60, he thinks that someone will believe in this bs. Only Croats can lie such shamelessly. In this thread, dedicated to him, he feels like fish in the water. All worst about Putin and justifying Galician Nazis, it means – Croat. There the same mental constitution. The converts are the worst people in the world, amongst them Galicians and Croats are the top.

  384. @EliteCommInc.

    At that time the Russian government and economy was largely under control of Khazarian Mafiya oilygarchs. So Russia at that time had no agency. It was during that period an occupied nation…ruled by the enemies of humanity.

  385. @EliteCommInc.

    You cite publications and “services” which are under operative control by the intel agencies and other enemies of humanity.

  386. @Commentator Mike

    it should read “while Russia does border Ukraine”.

  387. Laughing

    “You cite publications and “services” which are under operative control by the intel agencies and other enemies of humanity.”

    As is plainly obvious I go out of my way to avoid mainstream sources, not because I think they are propaganda machines, but to avoid the inevitable impossible to prove negative that some secretive body has them under their spell . . . and it is well known that government agencies and the private industry have planted stories, hired reporters and in fact installed writers to their benefit —–

    I am fairly confident the information here is accurate. I could whine about the media controlled organizations from the east, but I prefer to evaluate the matter as it is presented in context and veracity — and some sense making.

    No I cannot prove that every source is not a tool of various nefarious interested party. And I won’t jump in the rabbit hole of doing so.

    ———————————————

    “At that time the Russian government and economy was largely under control of Khazarian Mafiya oilygarchs. So Russia at that time had no agency. It was during that period an occupied nation…ruled by the enemies of humanity.”

    I take it we can dispense with the blaming siphoning and controlling Russia’s wealth and resources by foreigners. The history of Russia demonstrates that doing so is in the quite capable hands of Russians and has even been announced as cause for resolution ushering Communists, who themselves managed well for themselves.

    And has left the former confederate states with a legacy of corruption from they have yet to recover. In fact the history of Ukrainian revolutions’ has been all about an attempt to end or at the very least reduce corruption in government. Including the maiden issue.

  388. This,

    ” . . . largely under control of Khazarian Mafiya oilygarchs.” Blaming Khazachstan is a very tough sell.

    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/kazakhstan

  389. “The guy is a liar, par excellence. He prepared couple sentences and repeats them every time. He cannot say anything specific. Yeltsin complained something to Serbs?”

    Again, if you have a case that I am as you say . . . untruthful, you are certainly invited to make your case.

    Now I admit, I am not a very bright guy. I have yet to figure out how to keep my lousy rower from slip sliding across messing up my row times.

    Probably have an IQ below 60,

    but the data sets on this discussion are what they are and the record is on the table.

  390. LeZ . . . says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Indeed may Joe Biden be a disaster but he does not “run the show”.

    As for that show’s Main Event, The US-NATO-UK Ukrainian Proxy War on Russia to weaken Russian and destroy its armed forces, over Ukrainian lives, Russia’s prevails as they dominate over everything The West has thrown at the.

    That Mission Accomplished moment may dawn on Washington planners that what they accomplished is to create Greater Eurasia – Russia, China, Iran, India, many of the Stan States and Asian States. Far sooner!
    Resources, Supply Chain Capacity, Manufacturing and the military power to protect it all from The Spoilers, notably the US-NATO-UK arrangement.

    Much fake media to cover these geo-political moves.

    Examined here in some depth . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war-67b Photo warning!

    and here . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-war

    and here . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war

    and here . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war-b15

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
  391. “As for that show’s Main Event, The US-NATO-UK Ukrainian Proxy War on Russia to weaken Russian and destroy its armed forces, over Ukrainian lives, Russia’s prevails as they dominate over everything The West has thrown at the.”

    Well,

    you and your cohorts will have to make up your minds.

    Either Ukraine diplomacy was intended to cause a Russian invasion by provocation in which Russia expends men and resources on country that the west sees and unimportant anyway and as such had no intention of defending by direct military support/intervention

    or

    Russia has out maneuvered plans by a US unipolar world by the Russian invasion, ushering in a new world order and financial system. O am someone who believes anything can happen. And it is possible that the ruble which exchanges to a dollar at 0.016071 could someday become the global currency. But nothing suggests it will be any time soon. Not to mention that China considered a partner in the challenge with Russia will certainly want the global currency to be the yuan which stands at 0.15 to the dollar.

    The invasion, has not5 moved the needle on the power of the dollar or the stability of US economy despite the current inflation factors roiling the system.

    if the so referenced petrodollar were to collapse, it would represent about 1.1% of the total market and hardly cause the US economy to utterly tank or the global currency.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/douglasbulloch/2018/04/26/the-petro-dollar-is-a-myth-the-petro-yuan-mere-fantasy/?sh=5249c0c96a14

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/conspiracy/the-great-myths-that-never-die-rothschilds-petrodollar/

    So in either scenario, Russia is playing the game as the west wants based on the arguments made by those that supports Russia’s invasion.

  392. Folkvangr says:
    @IronForge

    My message to those who are “mindlessly” cheerleading for Putin: You are cheerleading for genocide of the Russian people. I can only wonder how you can sleep KNOWING damn well what you are doing.

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