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Two weeks ago, I wrote for Unz.com an article entitled “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars.” It sought to make several points concerning the consequences of Jewish political power vis-à-vis some aspects of U.S. foreign policy. It noted that some individual American Jews and organizations with close ties to Israel, whom I named and identified, are greatly disproportionately represented in the government, media, foundations, think tanks and lobbying that is part and parcel of the deliberations that lead to formulation of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Inevitably, those policies are skewed to represent Israeli interests and do serious damage to genuine American equities in the region. This tilt should not necessarily surprise anyone who has been paying attention and was noted by Nathan Glazer, among others, as long ago as 1976.

The end result of Israel centric policymaking in Washington is to produce negotiators like Dennis Ross, who consistently supported Israeli positions in peace talks, so much so that he was referred to as “Israel’s lawyer.” It also can result in wars, which is of particular concern given the current level of hostility being generated by these same individuals and organizations relating to Iran. This group of Israel advocates is as responsible as any other body in the United States for the deaths of thousands of Americans and literally millions of mostly Muslim foreigners in unnecessary wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. It has also turned the U.S. into an active accomplice in the brutal suppression of the Palestinians. That they have never expressed any remorse or regret and the fact that the deaths and suffering don’t seem to matter to them are clear indictments of the sheer inhumanity of the positions they embrace.

The claims that America’s Middle Eastern wars have been fought for Israel are not an anti-Semitic delusion. Some observers, including former high government official Philip Zelikow, believe that Iraq was attacked by the U.S. in 2003 to protect Israel. On April 3rd, just as the war was starting, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz headlined “The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history.” It then went on to describe how “In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in [Washington]: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another.”

And the deference to a Jewish proprietary interest in Middle Eastern policy produces U.S. Ambassadors to Israel who are more comfortable explaining Israeli positions than in supporting American interests. David Friedman, the current Ambassador, spoke last week defending illegal Israeli settlements, which are contrary to official U.S. policy, arguing that they represented only 2% of the West Bank. He did not mention that the land controlled by Israel, to include a security zone, actually represents 60% of the total area.

My suggestion for countering the overrepresentation of a special interest in policy formulation was to avoid putting Jewish government officials in that position by, insofar as possible, not giving them assignments relating to policy in the Middle East. As I noted in my article, that was, in fact, the norm regarding Ambassadors and senior foreign service assignments to Israel prior to 1995, when Bill Clinton broke precedent by appointing Australian citizen Martin Indyk to the position. I think, on balance, it is eminently sensible to avoid putting people in jobs where they will likely have conflicts of interest.

Another solution that I suggested for American Jews who are strongly attached to Israel and find themselves in a position that considers policy for that country and its neighbors would be to recuse themselves from the deliberations, just as a judge who finds himself personally involved in a judicial proceeding might withdraw. It would seem to me that, depending on the official’s actual relationship with Israel, it would be a clear conflict of interest to do otherwise.

The argument that such an individual could protect American interests while also having a high level of concern for a foreign nation with contrary interests is at best questionable. As George Washington observed in his farewell address,

  • “…a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification…”

My article proved to be quite popular, particularly after former CIA officer Valerie Plame tweeted her approval of it and was viciously and repeatedly attacked, resulting in a string of abject apologies on her part. As a reasonably well-known public figure, Plame attracted a torrent of negative press, in which I, as the author of the piece being tweeted, was also identified and excoriated. In every corner of the mainstream media I was called “a well-known anti-Semite,” “a long time anti-Israel fanatic,” and, ironically, “a somewhat obscure character.”

The widespread criticism actually proved to be excellent in terms of generating real interest in my article. Many people apparently wanted to read it even though some of the attacks against me and Plame deliberately did not provide a link to it to discourage such activity. As of this writing, it has been opened and viewed 130,000 times and commented on 1,250 times. Most of the comments were favorable. Some of my older pieces, including The Dancing Israelis and Why I Still Dislike Israel have also found a new and significant readership as a result of the furor.

One of the implications of my original article was that Jewish advocacy groups in the United States are disproportionately powerful, capable of using easy access to the media and to compliant politicians to shape policies that are driven by tribal considerations and not necessarily by the interests of most of the American people. Professors John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen Walt of Harvard, in their groundbreaking book “The Israel Lobby”, observed how the billions of dollars given to Israel annually “cannot be fully explained on either strategic or moral grounds… {and] is due largely to the activities of the Israel lobby—a loose coalition of individuals and organizations who openly work to push U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction.”

Those same powerful interests are systematically protected from criticism or reprisal by constantly renewed claims of historic and seemingly perpetual victimhood. But within the Jewish community and media, that same Jewish power is frequently exalted. It manifests itself in boasting about the many Jews who have obtained high office or who have achieved notoriety in the professions and in business. In a recent speech, Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz put it this way, “People say Jews are too powerful, too strong, too rich, we control the media, we’ve too much this, too much that and we often apologetically deny our strength and our power. Don’t do that! We have earned the right to influence public debate, we have earned the right to be heard, we have contributed disproportionately to success of this country.” He has also discussed punishing critics of Israel, “Anyone that does [that] has to be treated with economic consequences. We have to hit them in the pocketbook. Don’t ever, ever be embarrassed about using Jewish power. Jewish power, whether it be intellectual, academic, economic, political– in the interest of justice is the right thing to do.”

My article, in fact, began with an explanation of that one aspect of Jewish power, its ability to promote Israeli interests freely and even openly while simultaneously silencing critics. I described how any individual or “any organization that aspires to be heard on foreign policy knows that to touch the live wire of Israel and American Jews guarantees a quick trip to obscurity. Jewish groups and deep pocket individual donors not only control the politicians, they own and run the media and entertainment industries, meaning that no one will hear about or from the offending party ever again.”

With that in mind, I should have expected that there would be a move made to “silence” me. It came three days after my article appeared. The Editor of The American Conservative (TAC) magazine and website, where I have been a regular and highly rated contributor for nearly 15 years, called me and abruptly announced that even though my article had appeared on another site, it had been deemed unacceptable and TAC would have to sever its relationship with me. I called him a coward and he replied that he was not.

I do not know exactly who on the TAC board decided to go after me. Several board members who are good friends apparently were not even informed about what was going on when firing me was under consideration. I do not know whether someone coming from outside the board applied pressure in any way, but there is certainly a long history of friends of Israel being able to remove individuals who have offended against the established narrative, recently exemplified by the hounding of now-ex-Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel who had the temerity to state that “the Jewish lobby intimidates lots of people” in Washington. As Gilad Atzmon has observed one of the most notable features of Jewish power is the ability to stifle any discussion of Jewish power by gentiles.

But the defenestration by TAC, which I will survive, also contains a certain irony. The magazine was co-founded in 2002 by Pat Buchanan and the article by him that effectively launched the publication in the following year was something called “Whose War?” Buchanan’s initial paragraphs tell the tale:

  • “The War Party may have gotten its war. But it has also gotten something it did not bargain for. Its membership lists and associations have been exposed and its motives challenged. In a rare moment in U.S. journalism, Tim Russert put this question directly to Richard Perle: ‘Can you assure American viewers … that we’re in this situation against Saddam Hussein and his removal for American security interests? And what would be the link in terms of Israel?’ Suddenly, the Israeli connection is on the table, and the War Party is not amused. Finding themselves in an unanticipated firefight, our neoconservative friends are doing what comes naturally, seeking student deferments from political combat by claiming the status of a persecuted minority group. People who claim to be writing the foreign policy of the world superpower, one would think, would be a little more manly in the schoolyard of politics. Not so. Former Wall Street Journal editor Max Boot kicked off the campaign. When these ‘Buchananites toss around neoconservative—and cite names like Wolfowitz and Cohen—it sometimes sounds as if what they really mean is ‘Jewish conservative.’ Yet Boot readily concedes that a passionate attachment to Israel is a ‘key tenet of neoconservatism.’ He also claims that the National Security Strategy of President Bush ‘sounds as if it could have come straight out from the pages of Commentary magazine, the neocon bible.’ (For the uninitiated, Commentary, the bible in which Boot seeks divine guidance, is the monthly of the American Jewish Committee.)”

Pat is right on the money. He was pretty much describing the same group that I have written about and raising the same concern, i.e. that the process had led to an unnecessary war and will lead to more unless it is stopped by exposing and marginalizing those behind it. Pat was, like me, called an anti-Semite and even worse for his candor. And guess what? The group that started the war that has since been deemed the greatest foreign policy disaster in American history is still around and they are singing the same old song.

And TAC has not always been so sensitive to certain apparently unacceptable viewpoints, even in my case. I write frequently about Israel because I believe it and its supporters to be a malign influence on the United States and a threat to national security. In June 2008, I wrote a piece called “The Spy Who Loves Us” about Israeli espionage against the U.S. It was featured on the cover of the magazine and it included a comment about the tribal instincts of some American Jews: “In 1996, ten years after the agreement that concluded the [Jonathan] Pollard [Israeli spying] affair, the Pentagon’s Defense Investigative Service warned defense contractors that Israel had ‘espionage intentions and capabilities’ here and was aggressively trying to steal military and intelligence secrets. It also cited a security threat posed by individuals who have ‘strong ethnic ties’ to Israel, stating that ‘Placing Israeli nationals in key industries is a technique utilized with great success.’”

Three days later, another shoe dropped. I was supposed to speak at a panel discussion critical of Saudi Arabia on October 2nd. The organizer, the Frontiers of Freedom foundation, emailed me to say my services would no longer be required because “the conference will not be a success if we get sidetracked into debating, discussing, or defending the substance of your writings on Israel.”

Last Saturday morning, Facebook blocked access to my article for a time because it “contained a banned word.” I can safely assume that such blockages will continue and that invitations to speak at anti-war or foreign policy events will be in short supply from now on as fearful organizers avoid any possible confrontation with Israel’s many friends.

Would I do something different if I were to write my article again today? Yes. I would have made clearer that I was not writing about all or most American Jews, many of whom are active in the peace movement and, like my good friend Jeff Blankfort and Glenn Greenwald, even figure among the leading critics of Israel. My target was the individuals and Jewish “establishment” groups I specifically named, that I consider to be the activists for war. And I refer to them as “Jews” rather than neoconservatives or Zionists as some of them don’t identify by those political labels while to blame developments on Zios or neocons is a bit of an evasion in any event. Writing “neoconservatives” suggests some kind of fringe or marginal group, but we are actually talking about nearly all major Jewish organizations and many community leaders.

Many, possibly even most, Jewish organizations in the United States openly state that they represent the interests of the state of Israel. The crowd stoking fears of Iran is largely Jewish and is, without exception, responsive to the frequently expressed desires of the self-defined Jewish state to have the United States initiate hostilities. This often means supporting the false claim that Tehran poses a serious threat against the U.S. as a pretext for armed conflict. Shouldn’t that “Jewish” reality be on the table for consideration when one is discussing the issue of war versus peace in America?

When all is said and done the punishment that has been meted out to me and Valerie Plame proves my point. The friends of Israel rule by coercion, intimidation and through fear. If we suffer through a catastrophic war with Iran fought to placate Benjamin Netanyahu many people might begin to ask “Why?” But identifying the real cause would involve criticism of what some American Jews have been doing, which is not only fraught with consequences, but is something that also will possibly become illegal thanks to Congressional attempts to criminalize such activity. We Americans will stand by mutely as we begin to wonder what has happened to our country. And some who are more perceptive will even begin to ask why a tiny client state has been allowed to manipulate and bring ruin on the world’s only super power. Unfortunately, at that point, it will be too late to do anything about it.

 
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  1. If you look at things through the prism of pure national interest, and ask yourself, “Has our relationship with Israel hurt us more than it has helped us?,” the answer is so obvious as to be painful.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Watson
  2. SND says:

    Respect to your courage & this fine article, Philip, but I must point out it’s Nathan, not Norman Glazer to whom you refer.

  3. Americans face a steep climb to shed our credulous yen to buy the most fantastic explanations of God’s design. We now face severe tests to determine whether we shall step forward as independent, prosperous people, or regress to the mean of mediocrity. Let us not disparage the Jews and other Silk Roaders, for they teach the Law of Crowded Peoples. It is good to learn this law, as it is good to learn all truths of man. Still, the moral hectoring wearies me. Why such certainty from the crowded ones, that they alone have wisdom to still the waters and quiet the flame? Where is the evidence?

  4. Blake says:

    Terribly sorry that someone with a form sense of justice has fallen prey to this very sinister agenda which has been brewing for decades turning humanity on its head where the abnormal becomes the norm. The reverse trend needs to happen fast to save us all.

    • Replies: @Dv
  5. You might consider asking E. Michael Jones about dealing with Jewish backlash to perfectly reasonable criticisms of Jewish behavior.

  6. Capn Mike says:

    Philip, I know you won’t back down. We need more like you to call out those neocons with no clothes.

  7. wayfarer says:

    “7/7 Israeli False Flag!”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’m sure about 80% of the unz.com crowd were like, “duh” after reading your article, Phil. I think about 40% of the commenters on the blogs of Sailer, Shamir, Karlin, Saker, et al., could sit you down and really educate you on the issue of Jewish influence, Israel and world events. And I’m sure they would make what you wrote look pretty cuck. If you’ve read Sailer and others on unz.com you have no reason to be surprised that cuck central TAC would run away. TAC is pretty close to NR these days. Sailer has written quite a bit about the late Joe Sobran’s mistreatment by NR (and his ostracization by the conservative establishment) after he merely questioned Jewish political power, Israel, and our Mideast policies. And remember, gutsy guys like Sobran and Sailer didn’t have a guaranteed government pension check when they decided to speak truth to power.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @in the middle
  9. I’m sure anyone –like myself– who took notice of the USS Liberty 50th anniversary (6/8) got a similar reaction. Why? Because Israel said it was an accident, that’s why. Case closed.

    As we think about how to pay for the massive storm damage to Tx, Fl, P.R. what do you think the reaction would be if it was suggested that we put a stop-order on this year’s payment of 3.65 billion to make Israel a military power? I don’t think it would go over well. If you had a job in media you would probably lose it. Yes certain people have to consider before they write.

  10. Erebus says:

    Voltaire;
    “To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?”

    In Dec 2016, the Senate voted unanimously to eliminate Americans’ right to criticize their master. America is nothing without that right, a hollow shell. After 240 yrs of sovereignty, “We the People” will again be the subjects of a perverse, foreign crown. They will be probably be the last to know. So it ends.

    • Replies: @Sowhat
    , @Sam Shama
    , @Nepemnr
  11. Good article. American Conservative is Israel occupied territory and is anti-Trump near the level of Russia-gate fanatics.

    The bloodthirsty and powerful Jewish minority has two problems though:
    1. China doesn’t care about its stupid narcissistic fairy tales and it very well maybe the next global power because this Jewish minority is killing its host.

    2. I think enough Americans have figured it out that they should be concerned. You can go to comments sections all over the internet and people are talking about this issue. It is a remarkable sight to behold and yet they calmly continue to push the US into war. All this Jewish minority has is craven Christians who want the world to end which ends badly for the Jews and be blessed by God for supporting Israel, bought and paid for politicians, and people scared of their power. They really must miss being persecuted like in the Middle Ages. People are getting turned off by this increasingly unpleasant Ethnic Democracy & Apartheid State based on poll data.

    Russia-gate is a gift in a way. It is about a foreign government that is interfering in American politics. The problem is how to generate enough hate for all foreign government interference in American politics. They are America’s biggest existential threat. They create the policy along with corporations. Then Israel will be one of many evil regimes that are sucking the life out of America, stealing from us, and trying to get us to fight its enemies for them. Lets hate them all and call them all out for screwing us over like Trump does. The Saudis have bought off Americans in an attempt to get out of being sued for 9/11. Trump doesn’t ban countries where actual terrorist who have attacked the US have come from. At least he supported putting Qatar in its place despite its cheerleaders at the American Conservative. The American Conservative bragged about Qatar helping in Libya. What are they on over there? They are probably a bunch of closet Al Qaeda sympathizers.

    • Replies: @NH
    , @renfro
    , @Shooter
  12. Erika says:

    Well spoken Philip.

    It is not just media correspondents being targeted.

    On a personal note, I was essentially sacked (or at least squeezed out) of a senior academic position because I stated to a Jewish visitor that the Holocaust memorial outside of the Berlin parliament was a monstrosity and it was time to move on. We also discussed Jewish power.

    From several sources I discovered that I had been branded as an anti-Semite and perhaps even, gasp, a ‘Holocaust denier’. Even ‘though the person with whom I had the discussion was a visitor to my house from a foreign country, some Jewish people have their own networks to disseminate slander without consequence (eg Moffet) – except to those being attacked.

    Without going into details that could readily identify me, most of my external consultancies soon dried up, then the University started to pressure me to “retire”. Fortunately I did so in a financially favorable way before further pressure was applied.

    We must fight back and I am delighted to see that you are not giving up.

    • Replies: @Erika
  13. Erika says:
    @Erika

    As an addendum regarding Moffet which targets academics.

    This is a private, Jew-only site requiring registration.

    Imagine the fuss if there was a similar gentile site targeting Jewish academics.

  14. Critics of pernicious Israeli or professional zionist influence in the US and satellite countries seem to be subject to a form of “reverse Nazism” propagated by said influences.

  15. FKA Max says: • Website

    Exclusive: Israel’s parliamentary plot against UK politicians

    Published on Jan 7, 2017
    Al Jazeera has uncovered evidence of an Israeli diplomat’s involvement in smear campaigns to discredit a British minister and other politicians.

    Al Jazeera’s investigative unit went undercover with an Israeli lobby group for several months.

    The investigation reveals conversations in which a diplomat plotted to damage the careers of MPs they feel don’t give enough support to Israel.

    Clayton Swisher – Undercover Investigation of the Israel Lobby

    Published on Mar 29, 2017
    Full speech given by Clayton Swisher (director of investigative journalism for Al Jazeera) discussing the making of “The Lobby”, a four-part undercover investigative series exposing the Israeli Embassy’s covert influence campaign in the UK at the “Israel Lobby and American Policy” conference on March 24th, 2017 at the National Press Club.

    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  16. Phil, I concur in your evaluation of how you ought to have rewritten your article. When I read it, I did get the intimation that there seemed to be a generic anti-Jewish animus because you didn’t explain how you have no problem with some clear thinking folks who are also Jewish. Given that these political critiques are going to generate opposition, because of the high political stakes in which there is going to be no nuance or quarter given, it’s practically important that no ammunition for defenestration be even inadvertently proferred. Unfortunately, I think your justified focus on damaging Likudnik policies that are harmful not just to the United States, but ultimately to Israel, caused you to fall into a baleful trap in which you did not disarm this predictable response at the same time. Sure, perhaps you ought not to have to take that much care, but that is the world of a politics that is practiced as if any means is justified to win.

    What isn’t helpful, as well, are the commenters who clearly express genuine anti-semitic bigotry, who tar your own insights with their connotation of outright hatred of Jews and Holocaust denial by association. I suggest that moderating these comments to eliminate them would be prudent. I am sure some of them are even Hasbara false flag efforts, but whether or not, they serve no purpose at all useful to a sane discussion of how poorly conceived Israeli policies are actually counterproductive for the wellbeing of all of us, Jew and non-Jew alike.

    I would like to know the name of the editor who delivered the blow. I think given your explanation, he ought to reconsider and that we should be able to complain. But then, perhaps you are being more generous than he, because surely it would subject him to destructive personal doxxing by some of those associated with the more unhinged commenters here.

    I know from personal experience how unethical such mob driven personal destruction can be, having been doxxed by a campaign of falsehoods designed to destroy, even if it wasn’t for the same reason – except the commonality of being effective at debunking status quo opinion.

  17. In fact, to more accurately reflect your views, why not rewrite the article now? I believe it’s not yet too late, and in fact would help the cause of truth and a more peaceful world, our most important goals. I recently had to do something like that in regards to some different more personal issues myself, as I had momentarily lost perspective due to emotional involvement, and I valued truth at least this time more than my ego. The outcome was good and I was forgiven for my lapse, and I didn’t violate my integrity either. You can choose not to publish this comment, as it is somewhat personal. God bless.

  18. Sloopyjoe says:

    Mr. Giraldi,

    I again regret that you have been a victim of Jewish repressive thought speech. Rather than be a victim, I suggest you and Mr. Unz take a Tit-for-Tat Eye-for-an-Eye approach. In other words, Don’t Get Mad, Get Even.

    Some suggestions:

    1) Limit individual comments to five posts per article. This will clean up articles from excessive spamming, overzealous ain’t-gotta-life multi-posters, and/or retarded low esteem Clan Circumcision trolls seeking their low Shekel paid quota fills.
    2) Install Anti-Bot Software for articles.
    3) Consider Web Hosting outside of the USSA in a country that has a track record of protecting Free Speech.
    4) Restrict/Block sites from a certain non-pork eating psychopathic nation on the Eastern Med.
    5) Restrict/Block sites in and around Langley, DC, and any located Jewish Lobbying Groups.
    6) Permanently ban known trolls. I believe you are smart enough to know of whom I speak.

    Do you love the way I used their Kabbalist Voodoo # of 6 against them?

    Since the Talmudic Terrorists loves collective punishment, send back some love their way and let them Hava Nagila their dancing meshugana arses to the Pagan Rain Dance of Many Shekels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5AUy9vTGpQ

    Because……Stupid is Forever

    I hope this helps.

    Oy Vey. Truth needs not hide behind Laws.

  19. LA Dude says:

    Philip Giraldi wrote:

    This group of Israel advocates is as responsible as any other body in the United States for the deaths of thousands of Americans and literally millions of mostly Muslim foreigners in unnecessary wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria.

    - The most likely cause of the US invasion of Afghanistan was not 9/11?
    - The most likely cause of deposing Gaddafi in Libya was not the “Arab Spring” and the actions of the UN Security Council, NATO, France and assorted Arab countries? (Hard to imagine AIPAC having an influence on any of the other parties involved)
    - The most likely cause of the Syrian Civil War was not the conflict between Bashar Assad and assorted Syrian rebel groups and Islamist groups in Syria (al-Nusra, ISIS, etc.)?
    - The most likely cause of the US invasion of Iraq was not, generally, a series of US military and foreign policy reassessments (however possibly flawed) in specific reaction to 9/11?

    • Replies: @anon
  20. Giuseppe says:

    We Americans will stand by mutely as we begin to wonder what has happened to our country.

    Mr. Giraldi, I have long admired your dispassionate, non-polemical style of writing, even regarding emotion-laden topics like the Israel lobby’s influence in foreign policy. You are careful with the facts and provide thoughtful and logical analysis. Your history with the CIA makes you all that more interesting. You are a pleasure to read and I always particularly look for your articles.

    Your courage in following the facts wherever they lead, regardless of personal cost incurred by touching the third rail of American politics, makes you a true patriot.

    Ceterum censeo we must all labor together to throw off these imperial chains and restore the rightful Republic.

  21. Well, Phil, I thought there were hypocritical and unfair elements in the attacks on yourself and Plame, but I expect you’ve been a bit careless as well, not minding the fact of negotiating a politically correct minefield. In any case, you might (or not) appreciate my take on the business:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/10/02/jews-in-the-news/

    ^ It’s not exactly a case of ‘I have your back” but it’s clear the coverage in mainstream is despicable -

  22. Brewer says:

    The U.S. is a colony of Israel. If you think I am joking take a look at how Great Britain managed its empire through the co-opting of local leaders – Maharajahs and suchlike and the insinuation of its operatives into the seats of power. It wasn’t all conquest.
    Apart from the neo-cons governing U.S. foreign policy, Israel firsters dominate media, finance, entertainment and education.
    Right now Israel is coming under pressure as a Russia, Syria Iran, Hezbollah cooperation is steadily bringing ground forces closer to its borders. Watch as the neo-cons agitate for a U.S. strike on Iran and the U.S. builds a permanent base in Israel.
    We live in interesting times.

  23. Tom Welsh says:

    “It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them”.

    - Mark Twain, Pudd’nhead Wilson’s New Calendar, Ch. XX

    Thus it becomes possible to prate continually about one’s devotion to human rights, freedom of speech, etc. without ever having to suffer the inconvenience of actually respecting those rights.

    I seriously think that the USA could well be renamed “The United States of Hypocrisy”. It seems unlikely that hypocrisy has ever been raised to such a fine art as it has in the USA, more or less since its creation.

    Indeed, one may well consider that the American Revolution was brought about by a rich and powerful minority of colonists, in order to escape from the relatively moderate government of London and the better to engage in slavery, the murder of the Native Americans and the theft of their lands.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @sharethedebate
    , @Anonymous
  24. Amomynous says:

    Approximately 130,000 of 330,000,000 Americans read an opinion piece protected by the 1st Amendment and a certain touchy but influential group goes full gestapo, getting you fired from a job and dis-invited from a symposium. And, they still call this a free and democratic country? Apparently no amount of power and influence can cure a case of galloping paranoia.

  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Your writing is prolix and lacks subtlety.
    Reason enough to censor it!

  26. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Good thinking/explication as usual, Philip.

    People hold a lot of individual concepts about the term ‘Jew’ and a lot of misery has been contributed to by failure to ask the question “what do you mean by ‘Jew’?”
    Judaism is of course a religion, and people also identify with cultures that have been associated with it, and some are members of ethnic groups that have historically been closely associated with that religion.
    One can no more be born a Jew than a bricklayer or truck driver – even though that bricklayer or truck driver can decide they’re a Jew if they choose to.
    There are a lot of differences between people who self-identify as Jews, so that’s what I try to say to keep my thinking clear – ‘people who self-identify as being Jewish’.
    This may seem a little strained, but I think in light of the fact that the term ‘Jew’ is so unspecific in itself, it’s worth the effort to make clear that no matter whomever is being referred to, this single term tells nothing of any detail about them while simultaneously lighting up whatever concepts the word is associated with in one’s brain.
    With unexamined, generalized and thus poorly understood terms, caution is in order.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  27. Bush II repeatedly stated that his invasion of Iraq was to protect our allies in the region, and I’m pretty sure he specifically mentioned Israel. There is nothing controversial in stating that the U.S. has taken the role of Israel’s defender, or that American Jews push the situation.

  28. Clyde says:

    TAC was not much of a remunerative job. Did Jews ever get you fired from a Federal job? Like at State Dept?

    • Replies: @Z-man
  29. Tundra says:

    I’m a charter member of The American Conservative magazine, and am sickened by its hypocritical cowardice. Thank heaven for Unz Review and Giraldi, for their courage.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    , @Jake
    , @MarkinLA
  30. Jewish power in America has never been greater. So too, Israeli influence.

    This may explain why even discussing this urgent and critical situation has become taboo. The orchestrated silence (some call it ‘self-censorship’) is itself no small achievement. And it’s certainly no accident.

    Zionist ‘values’ now permeate all of Official Washington. This stunning rise in ethnic-centered political influence has produced not only head-spinning levels of intellectual conformity, but immense political corruption. This sordid condition empowers the already-untouchable Israel lobby still more.

    Embedded and unassailable Zionist influence has brought about the unwarranted destruction of entire nations. Millions of lives have been ruined. Trillions of dollars have been squandered. The scale of misery and failure is astounding. Yet few dare to examine this phenomena deeply–or explore its dreadful meaning.

    Instead, we citizen/spectators are fed distractions and cliches.

    “Assad must go!”

    “Terrorism must be defeated!”

    Meanwhile, Israel watches from a safe distance, barking at Iran; issuing directives to Washington. Simultaneously, our mainstream media sharpens the Zionist-friendly narrative.

    Those who dissent too loudly are given the loyalty test.

    You aren’t anti-Semitic, are you?

    Of course not! Never.

    End of conversation.

    But in reality, Washington’s ongoing, aggressive, pro-Israel wars must be seen for what they are: a vast, unbridled criminal enterprise that is not only horrid and brutal, but absolutely unnecessary. Worse still, most of this mayhem is in service to a foreign power.

    Yet the Zionist fog machine–media, education, law, public speech, collective memory, mass entertainment and ‘mainstream’ political discourse–keeps a sheepish and guilt-ridden American public in a zombie-like trance of submission. Protests are muted and few. Citizens look to their TV for guidance. Genuine guidance however is not there.

    Thankfully, courageous and morally-centered men like Philip Giraldi are sounding the alarm. We must do the same.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  31. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    How can Americans react to this subversion of our govt when we are constantly being herded into a state of numbing fear with horrific massacres of our friends, relatives, loved ones and others?

    All that free money, free weaponry, guaranteed UN vetoes to protect Apartheid Israel, wars and endless sanctions against nations Israel wants destroyed, control of the MSM by a certain ethnic group always lobbying for Israel and Congressional arse-kissing is proof positive that the USA is under Israeli occupation, paying tribute to our Overlord.

    And the concentration camp guards watching over us will make sure you pay some kind of penalty if you dare speak out against our Israeli master.

  32. I think that a little more precision in the language, particularly in the headline, would have helped. But the reasons for referring not simply to ‘neoconservatives’, or ‘Zionists’ were clearly cogent ones. The plain fact of the matter is that the organised ‘Jewish community’, in the United States and Britain alike, is not only committed to Israel but has largely defined Jewish identity in terms of that commitment.

    Alternative conceptions of Jewish identity have largely been marginalised – particularly as Jews who do not want to be part of a ‘Jewish people’ as defined by the kind of figures about whom Giraldi is writing commonly move away from any kind of Jewish identity.

    Ironically, the kind of attempt to suppress what are palpably obvious facts with which it seems Robert W. Merry has been happy to collude not only makes any return to rationality in the policies of both our countries difficult – it may turn out to be dangerous, both for Israel and for Jews in the United States, Britain, and elsewhere.

    Part of the background to this is that there seems to be something of an inverse correlation, among American Jews between influence and genuine intellectual grasp – which is both an American, and a Jewish, tragedy.

    As someone who has been following the libel cases produced by the Christopher Steele dossier closely, and was once involved – successfully – in a protracted libel case over a programme I made, I find the description of Dennis Ross as ‘Israel’s lawyer’ particular ironic.

    Certainly, if a case comes to the court, one wants a lawyer to use every trick in the book to help you win. But one also wants a lawyer to exploit his professional expertise, and detachment, to stop one doing silly things in the first place.

    It appears that Ross’s conception of his role has been based on the premise that, since Israeli Jews are at threat in a way American Jews are not, the latter are not entitled to articulate any substantive dissent from the way that the former define their security interests. The notion that he might better serve the country he professes to want to help by exploiting the objectivity born of detachment seems a little too difficult for him to grasp.

    The result has been that both Israeli and American Jews have paid lip-service to the ‘two-state solution’, while successive Israeli governments have been given carte blanche to pursue policies of colonisation in the West Bank which anyone not totally deluded could see would make such a solution impossible.

    By his role in the Camp David clusterf**k, back in 2000, Ross himself made the situation in the Middle East very measurably worse. This was as a direct result of the self-indulgent fantasy that somehow Arafat could be pressured, charmed and cajoled into accepting a version of the ‘two state’ solution which left most of the colonisation project intact. Anyone not totally deluded could see that there was no conceivable way that any Palestinian leader could agree to such a deal, and deliver the acquiescence of Palestinians in particular, and Arabs and Muslims in general.

    Equally deluded was the fantasy that topplying ‘nationalist’ régimes in the Middle East would pave the way for the acceptance of Israel in the region. With Iraq, the result was to create the ‘Shia Crescent’ and empower jihadists. To say that the attempts to get out of the resulting problems by doing a repeat performance with the Syrian régime have ended in a massive clusterf**k might be deemed something of an understatement.

    A fundamental point about the issue of ‘dual loyalty’ was made by Nathan Glazer in the piece of which Phil links – and was also central to the desperate rearguard action which Edwin Montagu, then the sole Jewish member of the British Cabinet, fought against the Balfour Declaration back in 1917.

    It is perfectly possible for ‘dual loyalty’ to be accepted – so long as it appears that the interests of the countries involved are in harmony. If however that confidence collapses, then those who live in one country but have defined their identity in terms of allegiance to another will come to be regarded with suspicion – and may indeed end up being seen as ‘the enemy within.’

    A central feature of the politics of the past few years has been the utter inability of élites on both sides of the Atlantic to grasp the force of the backlash which has been building up against the ‘invade the world, invite the world’ agendas which have shaped policy. It is also reasonably clear, to anyone who bothers to look, that the rather prominent role of Jews in both agendas is leading to a revival of anti-Semitism.

    In this situation, the remarks by Dershowitz which Phil quotes really do seem to represent something close to suicidal hubris.

    I am not a great fan of Kevin MacDonald, to put it mildly – and think that the notion of Jews as an ‘hostile élite’ in the Soviet Union is a problematic over-simplification of a very complex reality. But rather a lot of influential American Jews do seem to be queuing up for starring roles in the drama MacDonald has scripted about them being an ‘hostile élite’ in the United States.

    • Replies: @Shooter
    , @iffen
  33. Randal says:

    But within the Jewish community and media, that same Jewish power is frequently exalted. It manifests itself in boasting about the many Jews who have obtained high office or who have achieved notoriety in the professions and in business. In a recent speech, Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz put it this way, “People say Jews are too powerful, too strong, too rich, we control the media, we’ve too much this, too much that and we often apologetically deny our strength and our power. Don’t do that! We have earned the right to influence public debate, we have earned the right to be heard, we have contributed disproportionately to success of this country.”

    When all is said and done the punishment that has been meted out to me and Valerie Plame proves my point. The friends of Israel rule by coercion, intimidation and through fear.

    The ultimate insulting irony, from my own direct personal experience, was having a jewish individual boast about using his power and influence as a jew, with the high level contacts and privileged “minority” access to “hate crime” legal protection that brought him, to have me harassed by the police and prosecuted for writing opinions he felt ought not to be allowed to be expressed, and at the same time barefacedly assert that merely referring to undue jewish influence in our media, politics and society in general is “antisemitic”, basically irrational hatred, and is therefore now arguably a criminal offence in the UK.

    But identifying the real cause would involve criticism of what some American Jews have been doing, which is not only fraught with consequences, but is something that also will possibly become illegal thanks to Congressional attempts to criminalize such activity.

    This is no idle menace, as it has already been largely achieved in Europe and in the UK, and works in tandem with the wider leftist attempts to separate what they call “hate speech” from general, rightly protected, political speech. The laws and interpretations have been put in place in the UK. All that remains is to build the political will to openly use the law more widely.

    What are the answers, for ordinary folk (ie, who are neither jewish nor irrational “anti-Semites”)?

    It goes without saying that freedom of speech should be protected against leftist (and jewish, black, and all the other minority lobbies) attempts to impose “hate speech” laws and taboos. The taboos should be defied, and those who defy those taboos supported, even if we might not like what they say or their wider politics.

    The attempt by jewish lobbyists, described by Dershowitz and openly admitted by jewish identity lobbyists, to economically and socially isolate their critics should be actively opposed, by refusing to go along with it and by supporting said critics as far as possible, politically, economically and socially. The fact that they are targeted should in itself make us more inclined to support them, or at least to reduce opposition to them, even if we disagree with them.

    In general, we should have less sympathy for every advocate of jewish interests or Israeli interests and for every policy they espouse, and if challenged should openly say that this will continue so long as jewish elites seek to silence their critics by abusing their wealth and position. We should target policies that are clearly neuralgic for such people, like the BDS campaign against Israel which they are actively seeking to criminalise (!) in the US and elsewhere, and support them even if we don’t agree with them.

    Just as the response to being endlessly accused of being racist should ultimately be to normalise racism, so it should be for antisemitism.

  34. chris says:

    At the same time that Phil is pointing out the alarming fact that the ‘magnificent’ seven neocons and their minions are saddling up their horses to lead us (from the safety of their office chairs in DC) into another crusade against Iran (this time); elsewhere in the media and in politics, on the same pages and by the same people feigning outrage at Phil’s conclusions, no evidence whatsoever is required to draw conclusions and to assign guilt to presumed Russian collaborators.

    The acceptance thresholds is completely reversed: in one case no amount of evidence is enough, while in the other, no evidence whatsoever is required!

  35. Randal says:

    The Editor of The American Conservative (TAC) magazine and website, where I have been a regular and highly rated contributor for nearly 15 years, called me and abruptly announced that even though my article had appeared on another site, it had been deemed unacceptable and TAC would have to sever its relationship with me. I called him a coward and he replied that he was not.

    Clearly he was a coward, unless he is a true believer in the need to suppress opinions of the kind you were expressing. Either could be the case in relation to staff at TAC, I think.

    I do not know exactly who on the TAC board decided to go after me. Several board members who are good friends apparently were not even informed about what was going on when firing me was under consideration. I do not know whether someone coming from outside the board applied pressure in any way

    A leak here from an insider with details of the arguments used and naming the guilty parties would be very beneficial. It’s clearly in the public interest to have a fuller public understanding of the motives and behaviours of people making decisions at all significant media organisations, given those bodies are able to influence the shaping of public discourse and therefore policy.

  36. JackOH says:
    @Fran Macadam

    “In fact, to more accurately reflect your views, why not rewrite the article now?”

    Fran, I agree with you. I scanned Phil’s article quickly, and clearly understood “Jews” to mean a clique of unduly influential and like-minded Jews in power and media centers. Not all Jews, not at all. But, I can sort of understand–sort of–how some casual readers could believe Phil’s piece to be a smear job.

    Phil, any chance of a rewrite to clarify your thinking and add robustness to it?

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    , @Randal
  37. @JackOH

    Maybe. I had intended that this piece be in part a clarification of what I was thinking. Dunno if it merits a full rewrite. Will sleep on it!

  38. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    An open letter to Ian Buruma, By Bret Stephens

    One needn’t be a Jew to speak with authority on things Jewish, but that also helps. But one must be at least a Jew to tell the goyim how they may or may not talk about Israel.

    http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/glosses/4225cache.html

    Need more proof that Israel controls our lives? Pay attention to how voting in America is done. You keep voting until Israel and her supporters get their way.

    • Replies: @Jake
  39. Che Guava says:

    Always am liking your writing, Mr. Girald, since I was to finding Raimondo’s site after what was here termed ‘simultaneously occurring terror events’, 911 to USA people.

    It is always making sense, and I was always made to think. At one stage, I was reading comments by putative leftists who were snidely to suggesting that one cannot trust the words of a former CIA officer, you were clearly the target, that was eight to ten years ago.

    Seems to me that the same kind of thing as what got you fired is in effect in all English-speaking countries, but NYC, LA, and Washington DC are zio/neocon central.

    They explore footholds in East Asia, have a small wedge with PRC from selling them weapons tech stolen from the USA in past years, a little one with the Philippines through intermarriage, a little one in Korea from crazy evangelistic Christians, and a little one here, from intermarriage with Yakuza-connected women, but that is disappearing since Immigration stopped their habit of coming here to doing illegal work and trade. That was almost twenty years ago.

    Re. The American Conservative, i am reading it at times for study of language, culture and politics.

    I even reading Dreher’s posts at times, if I did not, would not know, for example, that Teen Vogue USA was recently to publish a guide to anal sex, all very upbeat, pretty stupid and ugly.

    Point re. your exclusion is that he usually is posting too much, but, I was checking half an hour ago, he is suddenly very quiet. Would suspecting a guilty conscience.

    Just about no posts since your exclusion. Strange.

    I would suggesting that you privately challenge the mag. to publicly explaining their action in detail.

    Sorry, too long and meandering, but my post still worth reading I think, but again, always thanks for your good articles.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Fran Macadam
    , @Randal
  40. Sowhat says:

    Connecting all (or at least MOST) of the dots, the Rothschild Cabal has controlled the world’s money and, consequently, the World Powers through, firstly, Psychological Warfare…IT owns them. Although it is admirable from a moral standpoint, your voice is as one crying in the wilderness of anti-cabal focus simply because that power is and has always been all powerful.
    130,000 clicks or views on your article, put in perspective, is a drop in the proverbiale bucket. I do agree with you; however, we are just a skin rash on the body of the Cabal’s left hand that receives a small application of salve in the form of psychological “dimissal.”
    Who they don’t own, they ignore or quickly administer some salve. They’ve been around too long and have all the money.
    I feel you, brother.

    • Replies: @Shooter
  41. I’m sorry to hear that you were removed from TAC. I do not believe that you should tailor you writings to make them pro-Israeli / Jewish if that does not represent your views. If I find an article unappealing I just skip it, I don’t want to see it censored and I don’t assume bad intentions on people just because they pursue a theory I don’t agree with. To judge if someone is out-of-bounds perhaps we should apply the ‘Iran test’, replace Israel/Jewish with Iran/Iranian and see if people would still take offense (being a bit facetious, nothing would be out-of-bounds).

    TAC is an odd place, I post comments and for some reason every single comment I post on the U.S. state Dept. never gets published while every other comment I write does and I cannot fathom why.

    The pattern goes like this.
    1. Larison writes how Tillerson is gutting the U.S. State Dept. budget and this is wrecking U.S. diplomacy.
    2. I post a comment asking why that’s a bad thing because 60%+ of the budget goes for ‘soft power’, funding NGO’s to influence and/or meddle in other countries. Lindsey Graham even said, ‘that’s our soft power’.

    This is like Groundhog Day, I’ve tried posting several versions of this comment thinking that I inadvertently said something inflammatory. I’ve stopped commenting on any article having to do with this topic.

    Maybe I’m wrong, I’m fallible but I don’t see how my comment is out of bounds, I’m baffled.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    , @Hibernian
  42. Dershowitz : “…We have earned the right to influence public debate, we have earned the right to be heard, we have contributed disproportionately to success of this country…”

    Success of “this country” or success of a tiny minority of “this country”?

    Dershowitz : “…“Anyone that does [that] has to be treated with economic consequences. We have to hit them in the pocketbook…”

    That is called Mafia methods in Goyim-speech.

    Did this man not write a book called “Chutzpah” ?

    (and I don’t believe his frequent visits to Jeffrey Epstein’s “paedophile -island” were that innocent either.)

    • Replies: @Druid
  43. x789 says:

    Re: “1. China doesn’t care about its stupid narcissistic fairy tales and it very well maybe the next global power because this Jewish minority is killing its host.”

    Correct, and add to that the Indian Hindu domain — both with long traditions and no need for the comic-book level nonsense peddled by the ME Tribe (enough of their own self severing varieties).

    Btw, as for “Parasites and Hosts”, by way of metaphor: the Jewel Wasp parasitoid

  44. Jake says:
    @Greg Bacon

    “Pay attention to how voting in America is done. You keep voting until Israel and her supporters get their way.”

    That is not close to being unique, though it being done for an ostensibly foreign nation is.

    The English have always operated that way. People in Ireland vote ‘wrong’ – then the English change the law in some way to make the next vote g the way the Anglo-Saxon Elites want it to go.

    That also is the way we got ‘civil rights’ in the US. Middle American whites fail to vote as Boston Brahmins and other WASP Elites want: Then laws must be changed so the next vote turns out the way the WASP Elites desire.

    And once again – it cannot be over-emphasized that from its solidification, WASP culture has been staunchly pro-Jewish. To the average WASP Elite, Jews are the other half of the power couple, the half that may at times be resented but is promoted because Jews always have been the necessary allies for WASP Elites to wage culture war against the vast majority of white Christians they tule.

    American wasting fortunes and the lives of its soldiers in the Middle East is part of that centuries old political game. It is the contemporary version of Oliver Cromwell with Jewish money making certain that permanent war devastates nearly all conservative local cultures in the British Isles because that made the small WASP Elite an even richer group with even more power – which would rule the world.

    The Brit Empire took that ‘Anglo-Zionist’ idea global, and the US now acts in stead of the Brit Empire.

    • Agree: John Jeremiah Smith
  45. Randal says:
    @JackOH

    This isn’t a case really of some naïfs innocently misinterpreting Giraldi’s words. Rather, it’s a case of people with an agenda intentionally misrepresenting those words to justify action against him, in order to suppress the public expression of his opinions both by him and by others who will see his punishment and fear it being imposed upon themselves.

    That’s not to say there isn’t some of the former, but merely that the important issue is the latter, and the active distortion of policy that results from this active suppression of particular viewpoints.

    That being so, isn’t stubborn defiance a better response than kowtowing, or even risking something that could be represented as kowtowing?

    In other words, no rewrite that could be represented as a recantation, but instead more writing of subsequent pieces, such as this one, that clarify areas that are unclear. It’s hardly as though any rewritten piece is going to be widely published or reported in the mainstream anyway, unless it does amount to an abject apology and kowtowing.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    , @JackOH
  46. @Philip Giraldi

    Phil, I pray that you do. Your influence in the larger scheme of things and your insights are too good to lose. We are all being driven by societal currents into identity politics, whether we agree with it or not. It is more harmful than useful to individual freedom, because it can never tell us the particular character or principles of any person we will personally encounter. I think of the negative reaction and controversy that the great political philosopher, Hannah Arendt became embroiled in, during the aftermath of the Eichmann trial and her articles about it as an eyewitness. Her own value was her integrity, yet she lost lifetime friendships because she said she would not make her own identity that of a tribe, to the detriment of the truth, which had been demanded of her. We owe it to such brave individuals not to make the mistake of inadvertently tarring them by association to their ethnic or religious origins they may share with the mistaken or even the ill-intentioned, but make it clear that our critiques are over faulty policies driven by mistaken thinking. I think that this satisfies even the question, “Is it good for the Jews?” What is truly good for all, if considered in all consequences, will be policies that are charitable to all. The best practical friend anyone could have, is the one who may not do just what you want, but what is best, keeping you accountable. And so it ought to be, in fairness to friend and foe alike, some of the latter we may even convince if we don’t place them beyond the pale.

  47. Hu Mi Yu says:

    I don’t think the problem is entirely Israeli influence. The US has had a hypnotic fascination with Jews since its founding. British religious dissenters read the Bible and reinterpreted the Exodus to refer to themselves. Their migration to the promised land was their journey to America. They identify with Jews. This thread still runs through many of our religions such as Baptist and Mormon.

    We are running into a brick wall of religion. No amount of reason will sway this emotional bond with Jews.

    The bright side here is the rise of Chinese influence. The Chinese will never be convinced that writing was invented by Jews, that the Bible is the world’s oldest book, or that the laws of physics suddenly changed in 4004 BC.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @jbwilson24
    , @Houjia
  48. Jake says:
    @Che Guava

    I think Rod Dreher is a very easily excitable girly-boy. His heart bleeds and bleeds. His instincts are usually very good, but then something will get his heart bleeding, and then he sounds like another hysterical Liberal woman.

    The Left plays Dreher like an old drum, and he always delivers.

  49. @Che Guava

    Rod Dreher is in Europe and posting, but those blog items are not being highlighted as items on the main page.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  50. Randal says:
    @Che Guava

    I would suggesting that you privately challenge the mag. to publicly explaining their action in detail.

    I think Giraldi (and Unz) should very publicly challenge TAC, right here, to explain their justification for sacking a writer for expressing conservative opinions elsewhere, and to explain how the managers of a supposedly conservative publication founded to break the neocon grip have come to regard a piece warning of undue jewish neocon influence on foreign policy as “unacceptable”.

    Clearly TAC have every right to sack a writer for any reason they wish, and no duty to explain themselves. But readers likewise have the right to judge them on their doing so and if they won’t explain themselves then it can be assumed that they are either cowards kowtowing to the powerful, or to the “antisemitism” taboo, or they are true believers in that taboo. Likewise, if they do respond merely to resort to the dishonest platitudes about “hatred” characteristic of political correctness then they can properly recognised and classified appropriately as part of the problem.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, Che Guava
    • Replies: @utu
  51. @Randal

    Thank you Randal – your last para precisely represents my concern about doing what looks like a rewrite as it could be twisted to look like a recantation.

  52. Their reaction will probably be to hire more gentile faces to promote their bellicist causes and policies, from lawmakers to journalists to think tanks ‘experts’. John McCain and Lindsey Graham have notably fulfilled this role but they’re getting a bit spoiled.

    Though in the end there’s only so much they can do to hide their hand. Simply inquiring: cui bono? is enough to see through it

  53. @Jake

    He is constantly self-promoting and also considers a number of neocons friends. He routinely bans comments critical of Israel from his pieces and is quite open about doing so.

    • Replies: @Fran Macadam
    , @Weaver
    , @nsa
    , @Jake
  54. @anon

    I agree with you, anon. The term “Jew” is just too “loaded”. As a matter of simple pragmatism it’s better refer to “Zionist”. It basically (but not completely) covers the evil, & gives the user a better chance of defending themselves as critics of a politics, ideology & governance. It also has the virtue of capturing all the Zionist fellow-travellers: power/money hungry politicians, general establishment types & all the evangelical-born again useful idiots…(how they must laugh in Tel Aviv over that bunch !)

  55. @Philip Giraldi

    Phil, I successfully negotiated the landmine of feeling that revising a few words of what I wrote would be tantamount to recantation of my fairly held main points. Despite my fears and the feelings that I was being betrayed, the courage to do this, in my own case, resulted in even stronger support for me. I did not recant, I took my friends’ concerns sympathetically and seriously, and explained my choice of words. In the end, this allowed them to mount a strong defense on my behalf, instead of dividing us as was the objective of those who didn’t like the overall assessment.

    I think it understandable that when considering the foreign intelligence information you have seen, which would stun many folks not privy to it, would produce a level of outrage that could lead to wording that could look unfair. Still, it is very important to clarify that there ought not to be a religious or ethnic test for serving in any capacity, merely an open vetting of any particular individual’s real views with the policy implications for that. As you may have surmised, as an evangelical Christian, my policy views if not my orthodoxy are outside the group mainstream. So it’s the what, not the who, that’s important.

  56. @Philip Giraldi

    I don’t think he’s terribly fond of me, but he has allowed near 100% of my comments, which wasn’t the case several years ago. As for self-promotion, he’s not retired and isn’t going to be getting a government or corporate pension, and given his public opinions neither would he be employable by either, so in that position it’s an economic necessity.

  57. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    Sailer, Shamir, Karlin, Saker, et al.

    Do not try to lecture Mr. Philip Giraldi by bringing up the names of these people.

    Sailer seems to be rather cucky when it comes to Jewish issues and I haven’t seen anything by Karlin on the matter yet. Shamir is Jewish so he does not count. He just as well can be a provocateur of the flypaper kind. And Saker is really inconsequential as being still a child who likes to play with his toy soldiers.

    The HBD crowd is in awe of alleged high IQ of Jews. One may think they show a degree of civil courage by talking about the taboos like the depressed IQ test scores among some minorities which generates for them significant following among the deplorables but at the same time they keep spreading the meme of elevated IQ’s of our top caste which obviously, as the official story goes, ended up being the top caste on their own merit because of those allegedly elevated IQ’s. So actually the top caste my look very kindly at doings of various Murrays, Cochrans, Sailers and Derbyshires who allegedly suffer great oppression for the truth. These people specialize in cooking a very unsavory dish with chief ingredients of contempt for Negros and Jew idolatry.

    • Agree: Bill
    • Replies: @silviosilver
  58. Z-man says:
    @Mark Green

    Yet the Zionist fog machine–media, education, law, public speech, collective memory, mass entertainment and ‘mainstream’ political discourse–keeps a sheepish and guilt-ridden American public in a zombie-like trance of submission. Protests are muted and few. Citizens look to their TV for guidance. Genuine guidance however is not there.

    Excellent!

  59. utu says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Agree with Randal. No rewrite. Double down!

  60. Weaver says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Dreher’s attacks on Trump in 2015-6 pretty much highlighted his loyalties. Dreher’s picked up a potent set of ideas and neutered them.

    Trump should have picked you to head the NSA.

    I hope you write a book on foreign affairs / domestic surveillance recommendations – nothing bitter, just a history of events and the ideal path forward from here.

  61. Z-man says:

    Don’t change any word in the previous or this current article. ‘Oh I’m not talking about ALL Jews’ is such a pandering comment and it’s a surrender to them! This pernicious power must be exposed and defeated and if there is some ‘collateral’ damage so be it!

  62. @Fran Macadam

    What isn’t helpful, as well, are the commenters who clearly express genuine anti-semitic bigotry, who tar your own insights with their connotation of outright hatred of Jews and Holocaust denial by association.

    Something like the American patriots who attacked the British Crown in print? Something like the Negros who attacked Jim Crow? Americans who attacked Hitler’s policies and actions as head of state?

    You mean…people who speak truth? You mean … people who speak truth plainly? Icky people like that?

    Are you familiar with the term “Pharisee”?

  63. @Jake

    His instincts are usually very good

    I would disagree with that. But it is just me.

  64. The fact is that America is under Zionist control and has been for over 100 years ever since the Zionists got their privately owned FED and IRS installed in the U.S. and since that time we have been force to pay taxes and fight wars for our Zionist overlords.

    The Zionists are destroying America just as a parasite destroys its host by Zionist perpetrated wars and the debt that comes with these wars, these are the warlords who are the destroyer of civilizations.

  65. @Fran Macadam

    Another jew calls for censorship of speech they don’t like. Seems this is one area where virtually the entire tribe agrees. Jews don’t like the US as it was founded, too much freedom, too much liberty for the unwashed masses. Clearly the little people ought not have these rights that were given them by god. The rights for the masses ought be granted by the chosenites alone with the underlying principle “Is it good for the Jews?”

    And the Jew wonders why the anti-semitism.

    It’s because the predominant Jewish worldview is at odds with the principles under which the United States was founded! The Jews have already seriously overplayed their hand in this country. God Willing we will one day get enough true patriots in positions of power to snuff out this treasonous rulership by the privileged minority.

    No members of the tribe signed our nations founding documents!

    • Replies: @Fran Macadam
  66. There are plenty of Jewish individuals who are appalled by the bullying tactics of Benjamin Netanyahu and Sheldon Adelson, but if lumped in with them through identity politics, will feel they have to reluctantly support them, just like a lot of beleaguered folks feel corraled into supporting Donald Trump as a matter of self defense.

    What can we say about any of our tribes, except that in any of them, those who exemplify our best character and principles will always be in the minority. It’s counterproductive to then double down on victimizing those innocents who will also be attacked by the powerful members of their tribes that all of us in the minority are trying to hold accountable.

    • Agree: iffen
  67. iffen says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    could be twisted to look like a recantation

    What don’t you just explicitly state that it is not a recantation of the essentials, but rather after noticing the outpouring of support and orgasmic high-fives from the enthusiastic anti-Semites in the UR comment sections, you decided to write to make it clear that you were writing specifically to identify those warmongers who happen to be American Jews? Leave your readers to ponder the questions of dual loyalty and recusal without your guidance in that direction.

    My article proved to be quite popular, particularly after former CIA officer Valerie Plame tweeted her approval of it and was viciously and repeatedly attacked,

    bada bing bada boom

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  68. Z-man says:
    @Clyde

    They could have if he wasn’t careful. You have to look over your shoulder with these maggots, but duh why am I telling you!
    To all others…beware the POWER of the Cabal.

  69. utu says:
    @Randal

    Should we expect any reaction from Patrick Buchanan who was the first to write about the issue in TAC?

    • Replies: @Randal
  70. Che Guava says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Thank you for the reply. I am not really caring about Dreher’s activities.

    It is interesting to me that there is a reply to me by indirection through commentor Jake, it is to confirming that I was to hit the nail of the stupidity (Dreher) on the head.

    Cheap.

    Although, in terms of u-name, my nonsensical one and ‘Jake’ are equally pseudonymous. I was raising the point (re. Dreher) and response.

    I am the not without analytical skills, so that sequence is funny.

  71. Chu says:

    I thought Finkelstein was such a fraud after his BDS ‘cult’ comment.
    At that moment, it was clear who the controlled opposition was.

  72. macilrae says:

    Would I do something different if I were to write my article again today? Yes. I would have made clearer that I was not writing about all or most American Jews

    While applauding the article I am pretty sure that many of us here were leery about the title. However, I am also pretty sure that those Jews to whom it doesn’t apply (particularly the minority who have the guts to speak out) will wholeheartedly understand and forgive you because you dared to whack the nail so squarely on its head. And, characteristically, you’ve had the courage to stand by what you said – bravo Philip!

  73. @Philip Giraldi Instead of a recantation explain why you are so damn mad. Its about how these Israel-firsters are seriously damaging the US isn’t it? The behavior of this Jewish minority has consequences so maybe explain the end result which is the destruction of American life, American way of life, and American power.

    Why should Americans care that their country is being annihilated by foreign interest groups? How does it affect them? What is the prognosis? Why should Americans care about a war with Iran? Iran can’t hit the US. We are safe unless Michael Scheuer was right in an interview with RT several years ago and that there are Iranian sleeper cells in the US ready to retaliate thanks to our lax border security. Why should self-absorbed Americans care about how Israel affects America’s relations with the rest of the Middle East which makes Israel look good? Why should Americans care about what happens to American soldiers or the people they fight on behalf of Israel? The US has very few terrorist attacks. Many of these things do not have any direct connection with the quality of life of each and every American except for the Iranian sleeper cell argument. Americans will go shop and Disney World after the war with Iran is started on behalf of Israel and Saudi interest. Nothing will change for the majority of them. Why should an American care since there are no visible consequences for themselves with the wars in the Middle East? The US is 20 trillion in debt and rising. Its still the world’s hegemon. Life in American was the same before and after the US reached that milestone. It was the same after Trump’s surge in Afghanistan. It is the same with the war in Yemen. 9/11 changed the American way of life but Americans accepted it.

    What do self-absorbed Americans get if they turn on this minority of Jews? Whats in it for them personally?

  74. neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one

    If to use demagoguery and sophistry as criteria, they surely are “intellectuals”. Reality, however, is much more prosaic. Albeit it has to be stated that Wolfowitz at least has a legitimate B.S. in mathematics.

  75. Durruti says:

    Philip Giraldi,

    I am not an anti-Semite. I like Arabs.

    There is nothing that disrupts an otherwise excellent excellent article more than the author’s abject refusal to learn.

    The overwhelming majority of Jews are not Semites. They are relatively recent converts from Europe (peruse/Google Koestler’s 13th tribe & numerous other studies if you will). https://54109419.r.bat.bing.com/?ld=d3QthTiOrviiy2UziuMbNCbjVUCUxv70QCFZH2LhmP4QA-BiPYXhhPJsQupdRtn9nJ9FtQhuoBKjEufggf7FK4_4ei0u980BiNUKzpepxaDWEnJkCufXLBcZW4z61j62MD3rJgjpyfqxYSEcJCxntY_PCja7NzAo5YQrLkJb42YWpj-q9E&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.amazon.com%2fs%2f%3fie%3dUTF8%26keywords%3d13th%2btribe%2bkoestler%26tag%3dmh0b-20%26index%3daps%26hvadid%3d78134050335460%26hvqmt%3db%26hvbmt%3dbb%26hvdev%3dc%26ref%3dpd_sl_6ju8nuvlpt_b

    One may not like Jews, but most often that does not make him/her an anti-Semite.

    Conversely, Arabs, Palestinians, are overwhelmingly, 99%, Semitic peoples, (peoples from the Middle East). The worst Racist anti-Semites on the planet are the Jewish Zionist Land Thieves, and their Imperialist American and European puppets. George Orwell discussed the cynical misuse of language in his 1984 as the key weapon of oppressors. I suggest a re-read by all.

    Zionists, and, all too many Jews hate and denigrate Arabs, and Palestinians, and Syrians. They are practicing anti-Semites.

    Giraldi, Unz, all the fine writers, you can all do better. You must not allow the imperialists to control y/our minds. They have Hollywood and the Mainstream Media, and the mis-education establishment; you/we must resist. Is that just what just UNZ.com is about?

    Durruti for the Anarchist Collective

  76. @animalogic

    The term “Jew” is just too “loaded”. As a matter of simple pragmatism it’s better refer to “Zionist”

    That’s it. Jew is a diverse family of political species and being loose with that term can unnecessarily turn off members of the wider Jewish community that otherwise might be somewhat (if not perfectly) sympathetic. Zionist is the wider net (Christian Zionists don’t deserve a pass), and it’d be a stretch to claim a slander of Bob Marley :p

  77. This is essentially the point I’ve made many times about Putin: he has made the mistake of discrediting Israel’s American protector and NATO, the instrument for providing that protection. He has made himself Assad’s protector and snuggled up to Iran. His air force has threatened to shoot down Israeli planes. The Israel Lobby needs Putin out of power and no amount of protection from US spooks can save him.

  78. Sowhat says:
    @Erebus

    America is nothing without that right, a hollow shell. After 240 yrs of sovereignty, “We the People” will again be the subjects of a perverse, foreign crown. They will be probably be the last to know. So it ends.

    “Game Over” has already been whistled. Oh! What happened? Who won? Duh
    I know that there are Jews that agree. But it doesn’t matter because they aren’t in Power. Likewise, there are others, the world over, that think like a “conspiracist” yet do not aspire to the designs of the Conspiracy States and realize that those States are controlled by an evil Cabal in control of the money and that is a master of manipulation and whose goal is world domination.
    As an aside, could it be that this same Cabal, in an effort to form public opinion, “planted” Steven Paddock at the scene in Las Vegas with enough weapons of mass destruction to arm a platoon, shot him dead, and proceeded to kill innocents in order to further the agenda of disarming Americans. It’s as plausible as the 911 false flag. After all, they like to choose loners and anyone and any government can be manipulated by bribery and blackmail threats. My heart is with the innocents and their loved ones. We all know that nothing is as it seems, so often.
    Psychological Sovereignty was lost, long ago. It’s ALWAYS about the money.

  79. JackOH says:
    @Randal

    Randal, I’ll guess Mr. Giraldi is already the “guy who got sacked from TAC because of his anti-Semitism”, and that the writing of subsequent pieces, no matter the substance, will be regarded as tainted goods. I agree that any rewritten piece is unlikely to be widely published, and the same could be said of your suggestion that Mr. Giraldi just move on with subsequent clarifications.

    I don’t disagree with you or Mr. Giraldi that a rewrite could be interpreted as recantation or apology. But, an expanded article may be worth thinking about to clarify possible confusion and to leave no doubt that recantation or apology is not the goal. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Randal
  80. Moi says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    USA and Israel=two peas in a pod.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  81. Sherman says:

    OK, this is the real story about why Giraldi was fired from TAC.

    You see, a couple of weeks ago I held a meeting in my Park Avenue penthouse. Several members of the Rothschild family flew in from Europe. There were also a few hasbara experts from the Israeli Ministry of Communications there and a dozen or so Managing Directors from Goldman Sachs and directors from several leading hedge funds.

    (I’m not supposed to say this but there were also some members of the Trilateral Committee there).

    The topic we needed to discuss was how to handle Giraldi.

    I’m glad we were so successful!

    • Replies: @Druid
  82. Randal says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    You’re very welcome. Keep up the good work!

  83. Thanks for your brave stance despite the personal cost! Your link to Ha’aretz is broken, here’s the correct link: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/white-man-s-burden-1.14110

  84. @animalogic

    The term “Jew” is just too “loaded”. As a matter of simple pragmatism it’s better refer to “Zionist”.

    “Israelist.”

    The term is distinct from “Israeli” and “Jew”, and connotes little religious baggage.

  85. @Moi

    USA and Israel=two peas in a pod.

    More like a henhouse with one bedraggled hen and one really big Foghorn Leghorn rooster.

    Yeah, white America is the hen.

  86. The most likely reason TAC terminated Giraldi is they have Jewish donors who gave them orders to “shut it down!” I don’t think their donors are public knowledge but I’d hazard a guess that they have a few Jewish donors with deep pockets who put the pressure on whenever they feel a contributor is being too harsh on “our greatest ally.”

    • Replies: @Randal
  87. @iffen

    ROFL. Don’t ever change, Iffy. The world needs irate, offended, red-faced and howling Israelists.

  88. Randal says:
    @utu

    Should we expect any reaction from Patrick Buchanan who was the first to write about the issue in TAC?

    Would definitely be nice to see him joining Giraldi and Unz in publicly questioning TAC’s action.

    Buchanan and Giraldi have both directly suffered from the longstanding attempt to smear their criticisms and opinions as illegitimate that is characteristic of powerful lobbies using political correctness and manufactured political taboos as weapons. Unz has not been in a position to be vulnerable to it as they have, I assume (though I suspect he could tell a few good stories about attempts to persuade him to control the expression of opinions on his site here, if he were to feel the inclination to be indiscreet), but he runs a website dedicated to publishing “Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media”.

    Seems to me the three of them would have a common interest in this issue of the suppression of these particular opinions and positions, how it works in practice, and how it worked in this particular case – who said what to whom, what pressures were brought to bear, even by implicit threat, what arguments or ideas were used to justify, etc.

    A joint challenge to TAC could be productive, even if ignored.

  89. Haha glad ya got fired. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

    You should’ve been fired from TAC years ago, right when Pat Buchanan and Taki left the magazine. You sort of fit in back when they were publishing writers like Phillip Weiss, but not anymore, not for a long time. You’re not only an anti-Semite, you’re also, unlike Weiss, a crank.

    It’s a good thing to have Israel-critical opinion at TAC. Daniel Larison is critical of Israel, and he’s one of the best foreign policy writers around. But he’s a smart, sober thinker. You ain’t.

    Anyway, best of luck! (Haha)

  90. damn, this is exactly the self censor I was talking about. even a person like Mr Geraldi can’t criticize israel without being ostracize by those who fears the israelis and it’s supporters/traitors in the usa. then you have an isreali like sherman making fun of Mr Geraldi’s plight. that takes the cake doesn’t it? these fuckers are gloating now.

  91. Randal says:
    @JackOH

    Randal, I’ll guess Mr. Giraldi is already the “guy who got sacked from TAC because of his anti-Semitism”, and that the writing of subsequent pieces, no matter the substance, will be regarded as tainted goods.

    In wider circles that’s probably the case, but amongst those interested in the areas of his particular focus (foreign policy and intelligence), he’s certainly well enough known for that not to be the case.

    The issue I suppose is how effectively his enemies (and those whose interests are threatened by his activities) will be able to use the controversy to suppress his activities.

    • Replies: @David Habakkuk
    , @JackOH
  92. @Linda Green

    Which “jew” is that?

    • Replies: @renfro
  93. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “-The most likely cause of the US invasion of Afghanistan was not 9/11?”

    …but what’s the excuse for staying there for 16 years?

    “- The most likely cause of deposing Gaddafi in Libya was not the “Arab Spring” and the actions of the UN Security Council, NATO, France and assorted Arab countries? (Hard to imagine AIPAC having an influence on any of the other parties involved)”

    Actually, Gaddafi was deposed as a result of NATO air assaults and a no-fly-zone imposed on them. It was backed by many of the usual AIPAC suspects. It’s not really hard to imagine the same op-ed columnists and government officials behind Iraq wold support that idiocy as well. It doesn’t exactly take an active imagination.

    “- The most likely cause of the Syrian Civil War was not the conflict between Bashar Assad and assorted Syrian rebel groups and Islamist groups in Syria (al-Nusra, ISIS, etc.)?”

    What’s the most likely cause for OUR involvement in that conflict? Can’t be oil because they don’t have any…but Syria is awfully close to Israel.

    “- The most likely cause of the US invasion of Iraq was not, generally, a series of US military and foreign policy reassessments (however possibly flawed) in specific reaction to 9/11?”

    No, not really. Memos started circulating on the very day of 9/11 demanding that some link between 9/11 and Iraq be cooked up, regardless of how absurd the premise was. No “flawed” assessments required. They used 9/11 as an opportunity to promote the conclusion they formed had years prior: Iraq must be destroyed. Of course, the usual AIPAC suspects were disproportionately involved in that fiasco, too.

    Riddle me this? What’s the most likely explanation for the continued US hostility toward an Iranian nuclear deal that’s 1. clearly working 2. backed by the whole world, save Israel and a collection of Middle East despots? Could it have anything to do with the fact that 1. the usual suspects oppose it 2. Israel opposes it? Nah. Total conspiracy theory…because what other explanation is there?

  94. @Aaron Gross

    Daniel Larison is critical of Israel, and he’s one of the best foreign policy writers around.

    No, he is not. He is very conventional and not very knowledgeable of the key issues which define (and always did) the foreign policy arena–military-political problems. He is a typical product of US foreign policy “expertdom” which, with some minor exceptions, is completely oblivious to pretty much anything related to military power and force application. Being a “thinker” without having a knowledge doesn’t amount to too much as humanity’s historic experiences so abundantly show.

  95. FLgeezer says:
    @Tundra

    >I’m a charter member of The American Conservative magazine, and am sickened by its hypocritical cowardice.

    Me too Tundra. I actually have a bequest to TAC in my will, but intend to change it forthwith. Let us all belatedly grieve for America’s First Amendment.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  96. nsa says:
    @Aaron Gross

    Example of why the vile Hebe Herd needs to be culled periodically…….

  97. Gladstone says: • Website

    “‘…the Pentagon’s Defense Investigative Service warned defense contractors that Israel had ‘espionage intentions and capabilities’ here and was aggressively trying to steal military and intelligence secrets. It also cited a security threat posed by individuals who have ‘strong ethnic ties’ to Israel, stating that ‘Placing Israeli nationals in key industries is a technique utilized with great success.’”

    Every data packet sniffed by the NSA is old news to Israeli private security firms.
    And Putin is not be who many think him to be.

    Regarding the scope of this discussion: it must broaden, deepen and ascend to the top of the control matrix. Let’s not allow the enemy at the top of the pyramid to fence off another paddock, this time one in which permission is granted to discuss nat. sec. and the US of AIPAC, and only these topics. It’s time to talk about the sons of the City of London and their control of money via usury. It’s time to acknowledge that the Talmud is the foundation of a Satanic, politically supremacist religious creed known as Orthodox Judaism. Also, neither cultural degradation nor international criminal networks are ad-hoc enterprises, they are planned, controlled operations. The Synagogue’s political playbook never changes; they always overplay, over reach, and provoke a reaction. This reaction is going to go fusion-core-meltdown.

    If attacks are launched against synagogues, intelligence agencies acting via their patsies will be the ones to accuse. If this present conversation goes too far, such a stratagem could be something to which the enemy turns, trying to herd world Jewry over to Israel.

    Innocent Jews, doubtlessly vast in number, get thrown in front of the bus when such reactions break out. The true criminals refer to them as lesser brethren, ha’ aretz or (idiots). These neighbors of ours, just trying to live their lives in an intellectually honest fashion like everyone else, should be protected.

    And when they realize that their control over and their aggressive, multi-generational war of deception against everyone else, is a losing prospect, will they kick over the chess table and reach for the launch codes?

    Exfiltration of High Technology from San Jose to the Silicon Wadi
    Operation Talpiot
    Israel: the Greatest Spy Machine of All Time
    Kill Switch Diplomacy
    Back door control of critical infrastructure via high tech private security contractors
    Intel’s largest processor factory located in the only democracy in the middle east

  98. Pandos says:

    Philip,

    Jews changed the outcome and started the world wars. What were you thinking? That they wouldn’t come for you? The Jews always come for you. They would put you in a camp if the optics weren’t so bad. Thanks for your courage – but I will keep hiding from them in the attic.

  99. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Daniel Larison is critical of Israel, and he’s one of the best foreign policy writers around. But he’s a smart, sober thinker. ”

    1. Daniel Larison hardly ever writes about Israel. He occasionally mentions Netanyahu in relation to the Iran deal, but that’s hardly as substantive as it could be.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/author/daniel-larison/

    …which is odd considering the Israel lobby’s efforts pertaining to the many issues he writes about. Larison has the courage to write articles with titles such as “The Latest Saudi Attempt to Conceal War Crimes in Yemen” but hasn’t had the courage to even mention Israel (he uses Netanyahu as a euphemism) in his last 30 or so posts.

    2. You need to get out more. He’s not the best – simply “ok”.

    3. Daniel Larison is pretty marginalized. And even if Larison were the best, why is he relegated to TAC while shrill Jennifer Rubin gets a major op-ed, despite her continually wrong-headed foreign policy? Makes you think like someone has an agenda to push while trying to maintain the fig leaf of free debate.

  100. Randal says:
    @Clay Bishop

    Maybe, but it’s also possible that the staff responsible were amongst those who have internalised obedience to the taboos of political correctness to the point where they are eager to demonstrate their virtue against any apparent transgressor (Dreher is one such there, but I don’t know what the real positions of the editor and backroom senior management would be).

    The best apparatchiks are those who don’t need to be ordered to do the dirty deeds.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  101. Doesn’t anyone realize that ‘silencing’ someone in the internet age only makes him better known?

    Blacklisting may work against someone who’s already working in the establishment media… like with Rick Sanchez. I mean, who heard of him since?

    But Giraldi isn’t working for CNN or Fox or writing for Time or Atlantic. So, bashing him only boosts his name recognition and gets his piece read by many more.

    So, the attempt at blacklisting only turns it into black-lighting.

  102. TheOldOne says:

    Thanks for your courage.

    TAC is Dreher territory…nuff said.

  103. @Randal

    Your earlier comment seemed absolutely to the point. You wrote:

    ‘I think Giraldi (and Unz) should very publicly challenge TAC, right here, to explain their justification for sacking a writer for expressing conservative opinions elsewhere, and to explain how the managers of a supposedly conservative publication founded to break the neocon grip have come to regard a piece warning of undue jewish neocon influence on foreign policy as “unacceptable”.’

    While I think the title of the piece was unfortunate, its substance was simply stating straight out publicly what people all over the place are saying privately, because they know it to be true.

    Moreover, it remains the case that the organised representatives of the ‘Jewish community’ in both the United States and Britain, and almost all those Jews who exert significant influence in politics and the MSM, have either actively collaborated with the agents of chaos whom Giraldi discusses, or made no significant effort to stop them.

    It is certainly the case that one can name many independent-minded Jews, and that the contribution of some of these to foreign policy debates on both sides of the Atlantic has been very valuable: on some matters, invaluable, as with Stephen F. Cohen on Russia. But such people simply do not have significant influence.

    That Robert Merry should feel justified in sacking Giraldi, without so much as an explanation, is outrageous. The pressure needs to be piled on, to make him feel he needs to provide one – and explain what his actual views about the questions raised by the article are. People need to go for him, without too many inhibitions.

    As to the suggestion by ‘JackOH’ that Giraldi will be regarded as ‘tainted goods’, the question has to be – ‘to whom?’

    There are, on both sides of the Atlantic, significant bodies of opinion, crossing traditional party lines, which holds the élites of their respective countries in something close to complete contempt. Given the strong Jewish presence and influence in those élites, elements in those opposed to them are quite patently coming to throw overboard the taboo on anti-Semitism.

    It might help to contain, and even reverse, this process, if Jews with influence stop behaving like ostriches, and faced up to the utter disaster which policies intended to guarantee the security of Israel have been.

  104. nsa says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Saint Rod loves to publish pictures of himself in horn rims performing various pious activities…..my favorite is Rod and godly offspring ladling out slop to 300 pound swamp rats of all colors, of course, after the most recent bayou flood. You see Rod the Holy is righteous and better than the rest of us grubby infidels…….

    • Agree: Clay Bishop
  105. TAC is a travesty.

    Giraldi’s articles were the only good thing about that magazine.

  106. Sam Shama says:
    @Erebus

    Hi, Erebus,
    I doubt the Senate bill has any real influence, being an “Awareness” Act, basically for the DoEd to investigate incidents of discrimination. To be clear, I oppose it for three reasons, chief of which is its potential to assault the 1st Amendment, second, its contribution to the expanding body of redundant laws plaguing the nation, and least, the mere fact that college campuses are hardly Antisemitic. To see real Antisemitism one needs to read certain internet fora, and not even all that regularly!

    IMHO The NY Times, e.g., as with other MSM majors, doesn’t quite strike me as the Jewish echo chamber which proscribes the general topic Mr Giraldi offers rather regularly on the UR.

    Take Brett Stephen’ missive following Plame’s Tweet: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/28/opinion/valerie-plame-anti-semitism.html

    The piece itself is wearisome, but a quick glimpse of the comments are telling. They speak of a readership not exactly sympathetic to Stephens’ breathlessness. To take an example, one commentator, securing top positions as both ‘Readers Picks’ and ‘NY Times Picks’ writes:

    That this sentence is written with the same bland sarcastic tone to reverse its meaning as all the others tells you everything you need to know about this article:

    “I believe that targeting Jews for being Jews is anti-Semitism, but targeting Israelis for being Israelis is a legitimate form of political resistance."

    This is just a clever 1,000 word attempt to say “all the criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic” without writing the words. Never mind that a country is a political actor, and so not all of its actions are religious in nature. Never mind that the author himself puts the occupation of the west bank in the same category as the occupation of Ukraine or Tibet. Clearly its okay to paint all that criticism with one broad brush stroke as long as we do it with the barest veil of irony we can muster.

    Many similar comments appear and are in fact lauded. I, therefore, submit that public discourse is well and alive. Perhaps I overstate, but not too glaringly one hopes.

    On the subject of Mr Giraldi rewriting the first piece, I am agnostic. I’d rather he continues to remain his iconoclastic self and produce further articles in the same vein. And I’ll continue to derive a certain pleasure in embracing the warmth for Jews which unfailing appear in response to my own comments!

    • Disagree: iffen
    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Art
  107. @Randal

    Randal- Actually I think you might be correct. They are so PC internalized that using the word Jew terrifies them…

    • Agree: Clay Bishop
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  108. Jake says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    He does the same on race. Talk about black violent crime rates gets you banned, as will talk about the trillions of dollars spent on various programs just for blacks. Defense of Robert E. Lee and the Confederate battle flag gets you warned and then banned.

    Dreher has become as conservative as was the average Moderate Jew in 1984. With one exception: Dreher does know and still says that the gay movement is about forcing the world to bow to gay privilege.

    Of course, once he is shown how clearly the gay movement’s early forms were tied to the Civil Rights movement, Dreher likely will go silent on the problems of the gay revolution because he would rather be called a pedophile than a racist or an anti-Semite.

    • Agree: Randal
  109. Jake says:
    @Tundra

    Unsubscribe. I no longer take it, nor do I read those blog posts online. Waste of time even when free.

  110. MarkinLA says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Given that these political critiques are going to generate opposition, because of the high political stakes in which there is going to be no nuance or quarter given, it’s practically important that no ammunition for defenestration be even inadvertently proferred.

    When you figure out what this exact level of truthfulness is so as not to be labeled anti-Semitic by Jews, let me know what the lottery numbers will be since that should be an even easier task.

    • LOL: Rurik
    • Replies: @Linda Green
  111. Flavius says:

    Phil – Samuel Johnson dismissed faux patriotism by calling it “the last refuge of the scoundrel.” When the charge of anti-semitism is faux, it lands the accusers squarely in the same contemptible category.
    I wouldn’t go re-writing anything. People who know the body of your work know that you are not an anti-semite. There is no explanation or refinement that will satisfy the scoundrel. With this set, it is best to “never complain, never explain.”
    I was a charter subscriber to American Conservative when it had the bona fide cajones to speak truth to power. The election of Barack Obama changed all that. It continued to speak truth to power alright, only it was the power that had been. Now it’s just a pathetic wraith of its former self wallowing in sanctimony and sentimental claptrap. Too bad.
    Thank you for having placed an indelible underscore on what was once a fine opinion magazine that had become a bad job. Thank you also for taking the heat on showing up a collection of scoundrels that otherwise are never, ever held to accountability for their mis and malfeasance.
    Keep up the good work.

  112. MarkinLA says:
    @Tundra

    I was also a charter member but stopped a long time ago when my comments weren’t being published. Right after one of those mass shootings TAC took what I thought was a pro-gun control position and every looney tunes comment about banning guns seemed to make its way past the moderator. My rebuttals never were printed as well as other comments so I stopped subscribing.

  113. Anyone remember the healthy comrade relationship fostered by dissident author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Aleksandr Tvardovsky, editor of the literary journal, Novy Mir?

    Likely, TAC founding father, Patrick Buchanan, distincly recalls how, in 1962, the Khrushchev communist government allowed Novy Mir to publish Solzhenitsyn’s “One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich” and helped kick start the planned de- Stalinization process.

    One can not validly compare TAC’s astute political trademark to Novy Mir’ s literary M.O.
    However, given a closer look, the Soviet oligarchs & government used “Ivan Denisovich” to facilitate the de- Stalinization.

    (Sigh) A pity young Americans might only read morally twisted (pro Jewish-regime) books, like for 1-example, “American Sniper.”

    As stated here before, the US needs de-Zionization.

    Author-poet Linh Dinh does not have a Solzhenitsyn “arrest” upon his his resume, but he is one American citizen who has the talent to write, “One Day in the Life of Phil Giraldi.”

    Who can tell? One fine day, the popular Hustler magazine could become the avenging- ghost return of Novy Mir.

    Post scriptum to geokat62, research division: Was Aleksandr Tvardovsky a Jew?

    Selah.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  114. Regrettable but predictable result, Philip.

  115. Truth is to Imperial Washington as holy water to a vampire. I used to read The American Cuckservative. Not any more.

  116. Maybe Mr. Giraldi need not worry about jewish power for too long:

    War Clouds Gathering Over Israel:

    https://platosguns.com/2017/10/03/war-clouds-gathering-over-israel/

  117. Rurik says:

    I called him a coward

    lol

    I would have called him a sniveling, servile lickspittle

    a cringing, craven toady, with the soul of a piss-stained mouse

    a loathsome, trembling shadow of a man

    but then I have the luxury (and distinct pleasure) of writing this at leisure, when I suppose ‘coward’ says it all

    he joins the ranks of execrable turds like William Buckley [rot in hell] and George Will

    stink holes of wasted human flotsam

    pimped out to the highest bidder. Intellectual whores with less character than your typical crack-smoking street prostitute

    ‘you understand what’s expected of you Robert Merry, right?’

    ‘you’re expected to perform to my full satisfaction, or no deal’

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  118. NH says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Uh “American Conservative is Israel occupied territory and is anti-Trump near the level of Russia-gate fanatics.” Really?

    This is an oxymoron. If you are PRO-Israel then you are assumed to LOVE Trump as he is their biggest puppet YET.

    Why are people so misguided on this? The AltRight dreams of Trump being anti-Israel, but the fact is JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. He has given them a pledge for unlimited funds.

    Look who his cabinet members and administration are — all zionists.

    This is the only way he is still alive.

    • Replies: @DaveE
    , @Johnny F. Ive
    , @Wally
  119. @MarkinLA

    Excellent point.

    The Jew Establishment has had no qualms with dealing with white people as a monolithic block (White Privilege and all the other assorted anti-white propaganda that is presently prolific from their media megaphones) so it is not the time or place to be against open anti-semitism because there are 6 or 7 jews that don’t Jew quite so much as the rest. It is precisely the unwillingness of the native whites of the US to fight fire with fire that has allowed this problem to fester to the degree it has.

    Strangely, it is this same group who with their leftist education regime insists there be no stereotyping, while all whites are stereotyped as the source of all the nations problems. It is particularly frustrating that in fact the opposite is true, but we are dealing with people united by their common obsession with jewing and ruling over others, and the truth has rarely gotten in their way of seeking out this domination of their hosts. It is this same group who has the US fund their Middle Eastern Apartheid Terror State based on racism and religious discrimination while they wail any attempt at the citizens of their host state to honor tradition, normal sexuality, and love for ones people. While one of our nations biggest challenges at present is the Jew lobbies and unchecked Jew power, Jimmy Kimmel was telling the masses last night that the Republicans and the Gun Lobby are the problem. Make no mistake, the Gun Lobby and the second amendment is what has prevented and continues to prevent any further advances towards this Kosher tyranny that has enveloped our country.

    Instead of dividing the American people up into Whites and grievance soaked minorities, the sooner we go ahead and embrace some good old fashioned anti-semitism, the sooner the country will come together and demand scalps from their common enemy and resident interloper, rather than one another. I say lets stop worrying about the collateral damage to the handful of Jews that are not the problem. It’s time to say enough is enough, no more Jewing over here, go to Israel or somewhere else to do that. There is reason to believe that won’t work however, as the jew cannot jew fellow jews, it is against the rules of the tribe. But maybe if we could find another nation that can provide their goyim to be jewed. The UK is likely a good choice, they have always prefered to have their citizens jewed and propagandized to a much greater degree than has historically been acceptable in the US.

    Netanyahoo ought to put out the global call for Aaliyah and have the tribe let us alone over here. Maybe if we promised an increase in aid Bibi would call the tribe home for good. We lost a lot of men getting them that piece of ground over there that they just had to have. Now that they have it, they tend to want to hang around over here and we foolishly allowed the dual citizenship. Now, riddle me this, what good is it to anyone but Jews to have their own ethnostate but refuse to go live there permanently?

    • Replies: @Anon
  120. Svigor says:

    I’m sure about 80% of the unz.com crowd were like, “duh” after reading your article, Phil. I think about 40% of the commenters on the blogs of Sailer, Shamir, Karlin, Saker, et al., could sit you down and really educate you on the issue of Jewish influence, Israel and world events.

    This made me chuckle. Very true.

    In Dec 2016, the Senate voted unanimously to eliminate Americans’ right to criticize their master. America is nothing without that right, a hollow shell. After 240 yrs of sovereignty, “We the People” will again be the subjects of a perverse, foreign crown. They will be probably be the last to know. So it ends.

    Sounds like vaporware.

    All this Jewish minority has is craven Christians

    That’s a mile wide, and an inch deep. The conditioning isn’t hard to break.

    Phil, I concur in your evaluation of how you ought to have rewritten your article. When I read it, I did get the intimation that there seemed to be a generic anti-Jewish animus because you didn’t explain how you have no problem with some clear thinking folks who are also Jewish.

    Jewish Privilege. Jews don’t have to insert these caveats when they’re discussing badwhites, “Nazis,” etc.

    What isn’t helpful, as well, are the commenters who clearly express genuine anti-semitic bigotry

    Jewish Privilege. Jews are extremely bigoted against Whites, though they’re usually good at keeping it subtle. Salient example includes how there’s no such thing as “good” pro-White advocacy, though Jews never say so explicitly.

    - The most likely cause of the US invasion of Afghanistan was not 9/11?
    - The most likely cause of deposing Gaddafi in Libya was not the “Arab Spring” and the actions of the UN Security Council, NATO, France and assorted Arab countries? (Hard to imagine AIPAC having an influence on any of the other parties involved)
    - The most likely cause of the Syrian Civil War was not the conflict between Bashar Assad and assorted Syrian rebel groups and Islamist groups in Syria (al-Nusra, ISIS, etc.)?
    - The most likely cause of the US invasion of Iraq was not, generally, a series of US military and foreign policy reassessments (however possibly flawed) in specific reaction to 9/11?

    -Jews ran air cover for that in Big Media.
    -Jews ran air cover for that in Big Media.
    -Jews ran air cover for that in Big Media.
    -Jews ran air cover for that in Big Media.

    Not that that was the extent of their involvement, mind you.

    • Replies: @Linda Green
    , @Jake
    , @druid
  121. Svigor says:

    “Anyone that does [that] has to be treated with economic consequences. We have to hit them in the pocketbook. Don’t ever, ever be embarrassed about using Jewish power. Jewish power, whether it be intellectual, academic, economic, political– in the interest of justice is the right thing to do.”

    The trouble is that Jews, generally speaking, have a very diminished capacity to suss out the right thing to do. When Jewish interests are at stake, they usually substitute for “the right thing to do.”

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  122. Its worse than that, they brainwash our children to be less masculine, less tribal and ultimately pliable to the jewish ruling elite.

    They subvert politicians with bribes and blackmail.

    Its an occupation by a high IQ psychopathic leaning race.

  123. polistra says:

    The new management at TAC seems to be surrendering to Deepstate on many subjects. Their latest ‘New Urb’ articles are pure #BLM propaganda instead of neutral discussions of architecture and planning.

  124. DaveE says:
    @NH

    Real people (at least the ones smarter than a TV set) and real conservatives understand completely that Trump is just another in a long, long line of zionist agents in the WH. But the “alt-right” as portrayed in the media, through agents like Richard Spencer, is another matter completely. Too many are wondering WTF they really stand for.

    The “zionists” (whatever you want to call them) used exactly the same tactics against the Tea Party and it worked like a charm. Fake conservatives like Dick Armey and the Koch’s were called into active duty, and they delivered nicely for the zionists.

  125. Merlin says: • Website

    Phil, you’ve attacked the increasingly-demented “elephant in the room”. Anyone who truly puts America First, will come under attack. My controversial and comprehensive book, “Eagles Are Gathering”, reveals unique aspects of this. Keep the faith – as more and more patriots, including American Jews, are waking up to these difficult truths.

  126. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    I’d rather he continues to remain his iconoclastic self and produce further articles in the same vein.

    It would be difficult to play it out any other way since he crossed the Jordan. :)

  127. DaveE says:

    THANK YOU once again for standing your ground, Mr. Giraldi. This “rewrite” (as some are calling it) was the literary equivalent of a giant one-finger salute to the zionists and your (brain-dead or bought) Gentile detractors.

    Thank you, to the 911th power. You deserve to be labelled a hero. IMHO your courage will be rewarded, one way or another.

  128. anon-og says:

    Mr. Giraldi,
    Thank you for being a man of principle. I appreciate all your articles and you are a leading example of what an American citizen means to me.

  129. @NH

    I never said anything about Trump and his relation to Israel. I would be shocked if Trump was not pro-Israel since he vocally supported Netanyahu for prime minister. You can get down on your knees and serve Israel but still hate Trump like Bill Kristol. I also don’t care about the AltRight which is a bunch of whites like Richard Spencer who want a white Israel and join the stupid identity politics of Al Sharpton even though they have ever right to do so. When people reduce themselves to colors its a sign they have no true heritage. Catalans are a people with a heritage. White is a color.

    The American Conservative hates Trump because he upsets the foreign interest that control the American Empire. American Conservative cries “but but Qatar was arming terrorist for America but mean O’ Trump he threw them to the wolves.” “Oh American power how can we survive without paying for European security and help them harass Russia? Trump is destroying the alliances with shitty countries all over the world oh noooooooooooooo!” He talks about grabbing women between the legs with his locker room talk ooh noooo!!!” They do get things right like Yemen and the Iran Deal so they haven’t completely sold their souls to the rulers of the American Empire. However its noticeable they are moving in a Weekly Standard direction.

    Trump did end Obama administrations policy of supporting Al Qaeda in Syria. I consider that progress.

    • Replies: @Clay Bishop
  130. polskijoe says:

    Joe Biden, knows you have to be a Zionist to be in power.
    There was a guy under Obama who left/kicked out because he said US is his country not Israel (forget his name)

    Taft resisted Jewish pressure, and then fell to it.
    Truman disliked Jews, and fell to their pressure, and Israel.

    All of this leads to pressure from:
    B’nai B’brith / ADL
    Jewish / Israeli lobbies
    Jewish banking

    “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”
    – John Sheehan, S.J. (a Jesuit priest)

  131. @Svigor

    Just think of how helpful to the cause of liberty and free speech having the aggrieved masses stop protesting in front of the police stations with the “Stop Shooting Us” signs and go protest in front of the TV stations and synagogues with “Stop Jewing Us” and “End the Propaganda” signs.

  132. The comments section is filled too full by those cranks who ascribe all the problems of humanity to Jewish hands. They are delusional, but certainly are useful for neutralizing serious critique of Likudnik policies. I wouldn’t take any solace in having marginal folks like that being my defenders. I find it interesting that many are also hostile to Christianity. I suppose that they find it too Jewish. I note that recent congressional hearings posited that Christianity could be a bar to serving in government as well. This is a road that leads to major trouble.

  133. Along with curtailing the influence Israel has over our government and its policies, another step has to be taken simultaneously; the curtailing of aid to Saudi Arabia and some of the Gulf States who are the main sponsors of Wahhabist/Salafist Islam which nourishes the psyches and souls of jihadis worldwide. One can endlessly ramble on about Jewish control, power and influence in the government, media, academia, entertainment etc. Many Americans will readily admit this, nod their collective heads and go back to either reading the sports page or eating their bowl of cheerios. The question of Jewish/ Israeli power, or even lack of power, does not make a dent in their day. Now turn the focus to Muslims — Arabs or any other ethnicity: you will find the same apathetic American quickly put down that sports page or raise his cranium from that bowl of cheerios and vehemently tell you that Muslims not Jews are the ones who will harm my physical being through terrorist acts. This is very true on the face of it. Most Ameicans are not red pilled enough -if at all- to connect the dots of support on all levels and without question of Israeli interests and Muslim/Arab attitudes toward the West. I am not saying that if the US did a 180 degree turn in regard to Israel tomorrow, that the Islamic world would embrace us and say “now everything is OK.” This issue is far more complicated. Not being beholden to Israel would not totally cure our problem, but definitely would mitigate them.

  134. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Linda Green

    “Go to Israel…” Hassan Nasrallah has recently cautioned Jews about staying on in Palestine, suggesting, in an echo of the late Helen Thomas that they go back to where they came from, Poland or Hungary or wherever. There is a genuine promised land for Jews, promised by Stalin and not G_d, that deserves mention — Birobidzhan.

  135. @Fran Macadam

    In fact, to more accurately reflect your views, why not rewrite the article now? I believe it’s not yet too late, and in fact would help the cause of truth and a more peaceful world, our most important goals

    .

    This explication of Dr. Giraldi’s position is very well done.

    I think it would be a terrible mistake to “rewrite the article.”
    Fran Macadam, you cite a personal situation in which, if I’m not over interpreting, you issued a mea culpa. You stated that you did so because you had “lost perspective;” apparently you reined in “ego” and were “forgiven.”

    The example of your personal situation in conjunction with your suggestion that Phil “rewrite” the article highlights all the reasons why neither Phil nor any American who upholds American principles and interests agains what they may consider infringements by another set of individuals who advocate for the interests of a foreign government, should do so: Why should someone who is an American, and who supports and defends American interests, seek “forgiveness” from the offending party(ies)?

    Did the authors of the Declaration of Independence struggle to rein in their uppityness and ego-driven perspective (i.e. self-interest) when they set out to
    “assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them?”

    When Vladimir Jabotinsky arrived in the USA in January, 1935, a reporter asked him,
    ““How can the Jews achieve a true Homeland in the Holy Land?”
    “By demanding it,” Jabotinsky said quietly.”

    http://www.jta.org/1935/01/27/archive/revisionism-is-inevitable-says-jabotinsky-here-for-wide-tour

    Why should Americans be any less firm in their demand that the United States be the “true homeland of the American people,” above all else?

    Jabotinsky never rewrote his intention to displace Palestinians; rather, he doubled-down, crafting the Iron Wall policy; Dennis Ross has never sought forgiveness for his “emotional attachment” to Israel (so intense that he chaired the JCPPPI) or abusing his position in US government to advance Israel’s interests.

    @ 5. Nicholas Flavius mentioned E Michael Jones.

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-i-got-fired/#comment-2029315

    In one of his video lectures Jones discussed how Catholics

    “love to internalize the commands of their oppressor. He loves to be considered a good person in the eyes of people who are his enemy, and as a result he becomes completely ineffective.”

    Jones then reminds his audience that Catholics are enjoined to “love your enemy.” And so he “loves Jews.”
    The implication is clear: We have to be as certain as Jabotinsky what we stand for, and we must not be cowed by the adversary; in fact, we should clarify our thinking to the point that we understand who the adversary is, and having clarified our relative positions, we must assertively speak our truth — in love.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Sowhat
    , @Fran Macadam
  136. @Fran Macadam

    Fran says:

    The comments section is filled too full by those cranks who ascribe all the problems of humanity to Jewish hands.

    Linda Says:

    The jewish owned media is filled too full by those cranks who ascribe all the problems of the United States to traditional conservative white hands.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig, Rurik
  137. @Fran Macadam

    The anti-Christian commentary came from a U.S. Senator who was critical of a Catholic nominee to a federal judgeship because Catholics are apparently given to believing in “dogma.” The Senator was Diane Feinstein. I wonder how she would feel about blocking a Jewish candidate in a similar fashion?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/07/did-a-democratic-senator-just-accuse-a-judicial-nominee-of-being-too-christian/?utm_term=.36e44324a898

  138. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    There is no Pure Position but there are reality-based positions, that are completely respectable. Girardi has a circle in which to operate and he does a great job in that context.

    My earlier criticisms of him acknowledged, I take my hat off to him.

    Joe Webb

  139. @Fran Macadam

    Depends on which Christians. The followers of Jesus, or those who ascribe to Paul and his “New Jews” where you’ll find those fervent Christian Zionists. Jesus taught to pray in secret, Paul organized public prayer, just one example of differences so profound between them, you’ll always find ‘Christians’ on both sides of every controversy. Christianity is schizophrenic, not only schismatic.

    • Replies: @DaveE
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
  140. @Durruti

    Could not agree more, Durruti. I myself no longer use terms like ‘antisemite’ without irony quotes for that very reason.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  141. Art says:

    There is a crack in the guilt trip juggernaut of the Jews.

    Jeremy Corbyn – leader of the UK Labor Party is pro-Palestinian.

    Last week at a party conference he spoke up for the Palestinians – the applause and support for his words from the rank and file Labor members, was large and real.

    Of course, he has been attacked by the Labor establishment – but not by the people. The elite establishment has not been able to dislodge him from leadership power.

    In the UK, as in America – the sound of the 1% sucking the wealth out of the nation’s people is deafening.

    Labor is going to come to power in the UK and with it an open battle with the Jews on many fronts.

    Socialism where government owns everything is a loser – it is time for a new socialism – a private socialism, where the ownership of the organizations that produce goods and services is controlled – not by capital or government – but privately and directly by customers and employees.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Jake
  142. I suppose the silver lining is that one could scarely imagine a pithier way of proving your point.

  143. I was giving a small recurring monthly donation to TAC. The moment I heard that Phil Giraldi was fired by them for telling the truth about Jewish control of our government, I cancelled my donation and told them in writing why I did so. I guess that TAC is cuckservative after all.

  144. @Svigor

    You cannot expect other behavior than Mafia behavior from a group that for all practical purposes is an ethnic Mafia.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  145. @Philip Giraldi

    Come on Giraldi, be a good little goy toy. No one’s asking you to recant completely, but just cuck a little. You can do that can’t you? Just ask your “friend” (tee hee hee) Fran Macadam here how easy it is. He cucked a little to “clarify” his main point, and look at him today, he’s virtually a household name! Even Rod Dreher permits him to comment nowadays – and what could be better than that?

  146. El Dato says:

    Meanwhile, Israhell wants more Hell in Syria, courtesy of Murrica:

    https://www.rt.com/news/405540-israel-syria-us-russia-iran/

    The Israeli defense minister

    [you know, the guy who used to be a bouncer]

    has urged Washington to engage more in Syria, where President Bashar Assad “is winning.” The official has asked for increased US involvement, saying Israel is struggling to deal with the “Russians, Iranians, and also the Turks and Hezbollah.”

    “We hope that the United States will be more active in the Syrian arena and in the Middle East in general,” Avigdor Lieberman said in an interview with Israel’s Walla news on Tuesday.

    “In the northern arena, we are faced with the Russians, Iranians, and also the Turks and Hezbollah. The public does not know everything and it’s a good thing, but it’s an investment and an effort 24 hours a day, seven days a week.”

    The minister went on to express his apparently grave concerns that “in spite of everything, Assad is winning the battle.” He also called the situation in Syria “one of the greatest absurdities.”

  147. @utu

    Sailer seems to be rather cucky when it comes to Jewish issues and I haven’t seen anything by Karlin on the matter yet.

    I mostly agree about Sailer, but there are times when Jewish antics really seem to get up his nose and his tune changes, but it never lasts.

    Karlin sometimes seems even cuckier, but in his case I’d guess it’s because he sees himself on the same side vs “the nazis,” which is how he views the pro-white movement.

    • Replies: @utu
  148. Art says:

    Would I do something different if I were to write my article again today? Yes. I would have made clearer that I was not writing about all or most American Jews, many of whom are active in the peace movement and, like my good friend Jeff Blankfort and Glenn Greenwald, even figure among the leading critics of Israel.

    May I quibble? The “not all Jews” argument does not hold water. It is true that some Jews are at the forefront of criticism of Israel. But their numbers are very very small. And their criticism is mostly limited. When they lead the criticism, it is muted about the real physical suffering of the Palestinians.

    The major reason that “not all Jews” is invalid – is that most Jews are silent – they will not criticize another Jew. It is their responsibility to police their tribe. That is what good people do. They act with courage to limit the worst of their tribe.

    Until a large segment of America’s Jews publicly take on Zionism – all Jews are implicated in what evil is unfolding.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: Druid
  149. Durruti says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Thanks for the acknowledgement. It is amazing how many refuse to understand the cynical ploy / misuse of the term “anti-Semitism.” The Nazis called the Polish resisters in the 1944 Warsaw Uprising “terrorists.” One could go on and on.

    By equating criticism of Jews as “anti-Semitism,” the Zionist imperialist Land Thieves block most criticism of their multiple crimes against the Semitic Peoples/Nations of the Middle East. This utilization of a mis-direction misuse of essential human communication is a vital part of their horrendous crime against the Palestinian Nation, and against our American Republic, and against most of the Republics of our planet.

    The Restoration of our Republic, the remnants of which were most definitively destroyed in a hail of bullets on November 22, 1963, by these same MOSSAD Zionist Terrorists and their CIA puppets, remains our single most vital task if we choose to rescue the humans of our planet, as well as of our beloved Country.

    Thanks once again:

    Durruti

    alias – Peter J. Antonsen

    • Disagree: ChuckOrloski
  150. DaveE says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    VERY well said.

    So-called “St. Paul” (Saul) of Tarsus was probably the first major example of Jewish damage control.

    He completely re-wrote ALL the major tenets of the Four Gospels into something a LOT more like the Torah, with all its Jewish Supremacy completely unscathed. Not to mention completely undermining what Christ himself said about the Jews and their so-called “religion”.

    IMHO “Saint” Paul is a total fraud and the single biggest reason why Christians and Jews are BOTH so arrogant and supremacist, in general. Definitely WAAAY too convenient to be an accident.

    Besides, people don’t fall off their horses and wake up to be different people. Not in this universe.

    Jews and Christians just can’t seem to agree on who The Chosen Ones are. Never any discussion on the many ways Christ stood against arrogance and supremacism of ANY variety.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @jacques sheete
  151. Sowhat says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    I thought I saw Bernie Sanders in a video saying that, like,”Oh, Christian, eah? (well, that’s going to be a No Vote from me. “

  152. Avery says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Senator Sanders also spewed anti-Christian hate in the U.S. Senate.

    Only Christianity can be demeaned, denigrated, urinated on*, spat on, etc, etc, etc in US.

    Here is Liz Wheeler taking on Bernie:
    [Bernie Sanders attacks Christians]

    ________________________
    *
    [Larry David Pisses on Picture of Jesus]

    Yeah, yeah: I know it’s ‘comedy’.
    Try that ‘comedy’ on any other religion, see what happens next……

  153. JackOH says:
    @Randal

    Randal, we’re pretty much on the same wavelength with respect to the importance of what Mr. Giraldi is saying. His directness, his temperance, and his expertise impressed me. Mr. Giraldi knows his own turf and publishing prospects best. I hope he finds some way to further his message, whatever course he chooses.

    BTW-Both you and Mr. Giraldi are likely both right about the internalization of PC-correctness regarding Israel and Jews among educated and less educated folks in my area. There are plenty of people who likely believe U. S. interests and Israeli interests are always congruent by assumption. That’s why I suggested an expanded version to allay the concerns of those innocents who’ve bought into PC-correctness, while doubling down on his accusations. But, it’s Mr. Giraldi’s call.

  154. Jake says:
    @Svigor

    ” – All this Jewish minority has is craven Christians –

    That’s a mile wide, and an inch deep. The conditioning isn’t hard to break.”

    The source is Anglo-Saxon Puritan theology and identity. That theology died into WASP secularism centuries ago, and if anything, the specific pro-Jewishness got deeper and wider and more nasty (at least when directed toward non-Elite Protestants, as opposed to the full scale desire for cultural genocide when directed toward Catholics and Celtic or Romance language speakers.

    That WASP conditioning of being pro-Jewish while despising most white Christians is the very core of WASP culture. You cannot solve the ‘Jewish problem’ while assuming it is separate from the ‘WASP problem.’

    • Replies: @helena
  155. Jake says:
    @DaveE

    At best, Your Humble Opinion is based on ignorance.

  156. Jake says:
    @Art

    “There is a crack in the guilt trip juggernaut of the Jews.

    Jeremy Corbyn – leader of the UK Labor Party is pro-Palestinian.

    Last week at a party conference he spoke up for the Palestinians – the applause and support for his words from the rank and file Labor members, was large and real.”

    Opposing the ‘Jewish problem’ by becoming pro-Islamic in any way is like defeating your heroin addiction with meth. You destroy yourself either way.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Castellio
    , @Art
  157. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    To see real Antisemitism one needs to read certain internet fora, and not even all that regularly!

    Play it Sam – Sing “anti-Semite.”

    Look at the Jew guilt machine at work – he attempts to shut people up with one word – “Antisemitism.” Is that even a word? He capitalizes it – why? But he does not capitalize Semite – a word describing a 100 million people – why?

    Clearly Sam wants to affix guilt on you – guilt about WWII – were you alive then?

    He wants you to fear him and his cabal’s charges – he wants you to knuckle under – he is in your face with false attacks – he wants to own your freedom to seek the truth. (His Jew tribe cannot survive the scrutiny.)

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @druid
  158. In ancient Greek times you might have had the option of hemlock. By Roman times, you would have been crucified. In the middle ages it would have been hanging followed by drawing and quartering. In North Korea you reputedly would have been sent off by dogs or AA guns.

    In our modern, civilized society, you are forced into penury, to suffer years in decline, searching for meaning, with the criminal elite hoping you will drink or drug yourself to death without snapping and taking too many others with you, and they can comfortably say that your demise was by and of your own making.

    Tell me which is worse.

  159. @Jake

    Opposing the ‘Jewish problem’ by becoming pro-Islamic in any way is like defeating your heroin addiction with meth. You destroy yourself either way.

    Okay, but supporting Palestinians can’t be equated with being “pro-Islamic.” Most here who support the Palestinians do so because they recognize their cause is just, not because it’s “Islamic” (which it isn’t, except in that they often draw succor from their religious beliefs, as any oppressed people would).

    • Replies: @iffen
  160. @Jake

    Dreher is a stupid cuck who knows very little and is friends with establishment journalists and neocons like Brooks and Podhoretz. His hit piece on Pat Buchanan a few weeks ago was beyond despicable.
    I hope his kids become alt-right Nazis or SJW-transgender activists and disavow their father, would be well-deserved.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  161. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “I guess that TAC is cuckservative after all.”

    They’ve been cuck for a while now. Rod Dreher illustrates this point perfectly. I have serious issues with Trump, but the way Dreher hysterically attacked him during the campaign and in the months after was just shameful and embarrassing. He probably ran 20 or 30 times more negative blog posts attacking Trump than attacking Hillary, and usually those blog posts were headlined by derogatory photos of Trump and filled with snarky language. He later claimed that he didn’t vote in the election, though I wouldn’t be surprised if he actually voted for Hillary considering some of his posts.

    Dreher (and TAC) routinely do not approve politically incorrect comments. Attack Trump, and your comment is immediately approved – leading to a large mass of democrats posting against the guy (not a good way to get republicans to support your outfit). Post a rebuttal of some ridiculous point the author of a blog post makes, such as contradicting immigration dogma, and watch the comment get memory-holed; in fact, they routinely ignore that issue altogether, despite its incredible importance (and when they do, you guessed it, they oppose immigration and travel restrictions such as Trump’s travel ban, even in principal). They are the National Review minus the foreign policy…but I wouldn’t be shocked if they eventually change on that as well (they almost did during the Ukraine Crisis).

    Larison and the few posts by Buchanan are pretty much the only thing I’d check it out for. The rest consists of Dreher obsessing over homosexuals and Catholic liturgical nonsense while ignoring actually important issues and snide attacks by “respectable” true-republicans against populists and Trump. Ironic considering their alternate take on foreign policy.

    I much prefer Unz. I don’t read everything here, or subscribe to all the viewpoints, but it is a wonderful resource all things considered.

    • Agree: German_reader, Randal
    • Replies: @Anon
  162. Well, ‘not all jews’ but all jews in the media, entertainment, schools, colleges, mayors, and every single jew of power is spewing anti-white rhetoric and propaganda to make our people hate themselves and minorities hate us. I am sick and tired of this jewish tyranny. The jig is up. America defeated the wrong enemy in WW2 but the jew and Israel will eventually come to an end. Your littler political correctness won’t save you. The minorities you claim to love won’t save you.

    The Jewish parasite which continues to steal your money through the federal reserve, and wage endless wars in the middle east has declared a war on the white Europeon race. Wake up white brothers and sisters. Now it’s the time to fight.

    • Replies: @druid
  163. @German_reader

    Dreher is a stupid cuck who knows very little and is friends with establishment journalists and neocons like Brooks and Podhoretz. His hit piece on Pat Buchanan a few weeks ago was beyond despicable.

    Agree completely. But I wouldn’t wish his kids anything bad, albeit the scenario you described, certainly, would be a poetic justice for a complete cuck, who he really is.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  164. You have to admit that last article you wrote like like anuddah shoah

  165. Sowhat says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Americans are very ineffective negotiators. Israelis’ government operatives are among the best and history of U.S. and other Anglo Governments’ foreign policies proves this. Orientals are tough, knowing when to hold them a when to fold them (and wait for another day). The U.S. history is replete with mistakes. They have proved to be pussuliant many times over.

  166. polskijoe says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Problem groups…

    a)Neoconservatives (Jewish, Christian, other).
    b)”Progressive” SJW (Jewish, Christian, atheist, other).

    Jews…

    “Big Jews” are overrepresented in the positions of power (media, financiers)
    “Small Jews” majority vote for those two groups. (most their cons are neocon, most of their liberals are progressives).

  167. @SolontoCroesus

    It might surprise you, so thoroughly uninformed as you are, wilfully or otherwise, that there are millions of Americans who are Jewish, and their American citizenship and humanity at least equal to yours and mine.

    And yes, some of them can be as mistaken just as we are capable of as well.

    • Replies: @Sowhat
    , @SolontoCroesus
  168. Karl says:

    If the current US Ambassador to Israel says something about building permits in Samaria, that is more likely to the “official US position” than anything that Philip Giraldi says?

    Obama is no longer the President of the USA. A lot of “official US positions” have changed

  169. @Andrei Martyanov

    Yes, I almost resigned when they published the Dreher hit piece on Pat. They also featured at the same time a piece by an Israeli who was a “fellow” at WINEP, an AIPAC affiliate. Neither would ever have seen the light of day when Scott McConnell and Kara Hopkins were editors!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Andrei Martyanov
  170. @DaveE

    Very well said, as well.

    What’s called “Christianity” should really be labelled “Paulianity.” Christianity was infiltrated and perverted from the beginning.

    Anyway, now that PG is an official martyr, I’d like to offer my two cents’ worth of advice and remind him that he’s now officially a victim and that he’s now entitled to play the victim card and there’re lots of examples of how to do it.

    Even better, he doesn’t even have to make sh!t up!

    Go, Sir, and godspeed!

  171. Olorin says:
    @Chris Chuba

    TAC is an odd place, I post comments and for some reason every single comment I post on the U.S. state Dept. never gets published while every other comment I write does and I cannot fathom why.

    Many comment sections of political and “news” sites are tightly curated.

    They offer the illusion of open discussion but in fact limit the scope of what discussion points are allowed.

    From a PR/opinion cultivation perspective the goal is to keep those points or positions from appearing before other commenters and readers, thus validating their existence.

    Or such points or positions are allowed through on a very irregular or rare basis, which leaves the impression that they are extreme.

    Opinion cultivation is a mass comms topic. You can look up the “spiral of silence,” which was theorized in the 1970s as self-censorship by people who hold minority opinions, or think they do.

    What we have today is the systematic creation of “spiral of silence” by the media that tout themselves as giving voice to opinions/positions/facts. They silence views at odds with the ones they want to sell, with the intention that their viewers/readers will self-censor.

    This is related to the 1970s to 1980s field of “cultivation theory” out of the Annenberg School (Penn). In that case, Jewish scholars at a majority Jewish department commenting on disproportionately Jewish-run media networks/outlets and Jewish-created programming concluded that rank-and-file white Americans were stupid for thinking the world was mean and dangerous based on what they saw on television.

    (The findings/research claim held that more hours of TV viewing led to people thinking crime rates were higher than they actually were. I don’t call whether the converse was true, i.e., no TV viewing led to underestimate of crime rates, or what.)

    There was some truth in the cultivation theory framing–George Gerbner left communist Hungary, IIRC–but the whole thing struck me overall as an effort to ridicule white men and women for a) trusting the media and b) perceiving that their culture was going shall we say down the tubes. The real data were the actual crime rates and why the MSM didn’t report those, nor on the demographics of them.

    In any case, the researchers were suffering from confirmation bias at least as strongly as their human subjects were, IMO.

    • Replies: @Shooter
  172. Pretty soon they’ll be singing the praises of Adolf Hitler, except that he failed. Yes?

    I wouldn’t console myself with the praises of those so possessed, were they the last people on earth.

    The problem with neocons and their fellow travelers, many of the latter less Jewish than Hitler himself, is their faulty and destructive values, not their genetic origin.

    Jew baiters and Jew haters, have nothing of any value to contribute to understanding, blinded as they are by their obsessions. In fact if the neocons have come from the dark side, they surely share the same malignant inspiration.

    • Replies: @Wally
  173. If you found your comments rejected at the American Conservative, they must have been insultingly egregious. Their automatic blocking software trashcans any that brandish the epithet “cuckservative.”

    Trying to engage seriously here bears some resemblance to the futility of teaching pigs to sing – it apparently really annoys them, while wasting time.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  174. What emerges from his meticulous and merciless chronicle at last is a picture of Uncle Sam with a ring in his nose, and a thousand cords flowing from it, and a hearty band of swindlers yanking every cord… It reduces democracy, not only to absurdity, but also to obscenity.

    -H.L. Mencken, Hornswoggling the Rabble, review of Behind the Scenes in Politics, by Anonymous
    The American Mercury, October 1924, p. 252

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1924oct-00252

    I would add, “perversity.”

  175. @Philip Giraldi

    “contained a banned word”. Please tell ua what word. I am sure your Commenters will enjoy persecuting Facebook with experimental postings.

    In much the same vein I am amazed that we haven’t yet seen on a UR thread any of the usual clairvoyants explaining that the recent Las Vegas massacre was a false flag operation, that Stephen Paddock was set up and killed by police or secret agents, not himself, and no doubt that it was a conspiracy against the Second Amendment for those who haven’t worked out the obvious Mossad/Saudi/Ukrainian Oligarch/FBI/CIA/DNC/….connection.

    • Replies: @Anon
  176. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Wow. I just read that piece. The previous two or three Dreher pieces I’d read over my lifetime had seemed fairly reasonable. Where the heck did that come from?

    My favorite comment:

    Read Pat’s article. Not offended, resting heart rate still below 60bpm.

    I’d commiserate on your being fired but if I were in your place I’d be glad not to be taking money from them. Hope you find more courageous places.

  177. The problem with Phil’s piece isn’t that it tells the truth, but that the way it was written, it appeared to tar “the Jews” without differentiation, which would be an arguably racist and a false accusation It then went further, perhaps in a fit of understandable but not completely excusable pique, to suggest that a religious and racial test be established to forbid Jews from being involved in government. Well perhaps an argument could be made for recusal where there really are dual loyalties conflicting. But that would have to be made on a fair case by case basis. Phil said he would have rephrased it if he had it to do over. Sadly, what could likely happen now since pride so often becomes more important than truth, is that Phil’s heart will harden, and although a coterie of anti semites will claim victory in making him one of their own, the effectiveness if the main effort to reclaim U.S. Policy from foreign interests contrary to those of the American people will be made less effective.

    As unfortunate as the consequences are, to have any effectiveness in its mission, TAC had to distance itself from what Phil seemed to express, and they can’t be blamed for not wanting to identify with a proposal to purge Jewish people from government service. I mean, that makes the assumption that Jewish people, per se, are unsuitable for full citizenship. That really is dangerously close to the arguments of post Weimar Germany, and we are going to at some point have our own post-Weimar America, with all its attendant and destructive temptations.

  178. … the proper course for the …opposition must necessarily be a strategy of boldness and confrontation, of dynamism and excitement, a strategy, in short, of rousing the masses from their slumber and exposing the arrogant elites that are ruling them, controlling them, taxing them, and ripping them off.

    Murray N. Rothbard: A Strategy for the Right. Restore the good old Articles of Confederation

    Address to the John Randolph Club
    January 18, 1992 (This article was first published in 1992, in the Rothbard-Rockwell Report.)

    http://euportal.parlamentnilisty.cz/Articles/7180-murray-n-rothbard-a-strategy-for-the-right-restore-the-good-old-articles-of-confederation.aspx

  179. Goyocons says:

    Ah, this takes me back.

    Remember when CIA had cocked up Indochina beyond recognition? They handed it off to the military and leaked the Pentagon papers to blame the Pentagon for what they did.

    Remember the Pike Commission nailed CIA? One of their domestic illegals put magic words in the report insisting CIA works for the president. Yeah right.

    Remember when CIA caught its tit in the wringer with Iran/Contra? The Congressional whitewash busted the decoy Israeli Iran/Contra and let the original CIA one off the hook.

    Now it’s happening again. Having gotten their ass kicked in Syria, CIA’s combining both tricks. They handed the war off to military dupes once it was lost. And they started their parrots squawking, Neocons, Neoncons! Like Parry, who spent the 80s blaming Iran/Contra on… Republicans, now blames perfect continuity in CIA policy on an utterly dependent one-nuke laydown of a client state to which the executive could cut vital aid at will under Symington-Glenn.

    Since when does it matter that CIA aggression in Syria is counter to US national interests? CIA aggression in Syria is in CIA’s interest. That is all that matters.

    Israel makes itself useful to CIA by doing the dirtiest dirty work for CIA. Like demolition work on 9/11. CIA will blithely throw Israel overboard if they cease to be useful. CIA will betray and destroy Israel whenever it suits them. Israel’s impunity is derivative of CIA’s impunity.

    Of course they’re both hostis humani generis. You know who’s in charge. Don’t let CIA pin the blame on yet another patsy.

    • Troll: Rurik
  180. Wally says: • Website
    @NH

    Is that why the NYT & Hollywood Jews (redundant, I know) are so in love with Trump?

  181. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I am not sure how your second paragraph is in the same vein.

    Presumably Mr. Giraldi received a notice saying this? Anyway it should be easy enough, if you have a Facebook account, to post the article paragraph-by-paragraph and if one blinks do a binary search via further postings for the offending word.

  182. Castellio says:
    @Jake

    You write: “Opposing the ‘Jewish problem’ by becoming pro-Islamic in any way is like defeating your heroin addiction with meth.”

    … “in any way”… “in any way”… so supporting the safety of the children of Palestine, Iraq, Syria, most of whom are Muslim, is like… becoming a meth addict? But I am, certainly, pro-Islamic in that way.

    Of course you didn’t mean that (surely?), but then what DOES it mean – “becoming pro-Islamic in any way is like defeating your heroin addiction with meth”?

    However, you have also just posted this: “That WASP conditioning of being pro-Jewish while despising most white Christians is the very core of WASP culture. You cannot solve the ‘Jewish problem’ while assuming it is separate from the ‘WASP problem.’

    Ah… Jake, I get it. To solve the immediate problem of undue Israeli influence on American foreign policy and its current government we must deal with Islam and Protestantism, or perhaps them first?

    Deflect, perhaps? Divide and conquer, perhaps?

    • Replies: @polskijoe
  183. @Fran Macadam

    Fran you are out of your bleeding mind. I specifically named the people that I was talking about. They are all Jews but I never said that I was condemning the entire tribe based on their sorry record. You are going through some odd distortions of reality here. I never suggested that there be religious or ethnic tests, you have essentially inferred that without evidence. I merely said that no government official with a vested interest should be making decisions that create a conflict of interest and produce bad policy. I never said I would rephrase my support of recusal, which you are inventing, as you are inventing that I am seeking to purge Jewish people from government service or full citizenship. I am so glad to hear that you are on the side of TAC on this – perhaps you should congratulate them on getting rid of me. I understand they need a bit of encouragement. Are you losing your mind?????

  184. George says:

    Yo Phil, give up on this Jew talk, it makes you sound stoopid. May I suggest you use the phrase “Big Israel” which includes such non-Jews as Christian Dispensationalists, Lockheed Martin and the military industrial complex, and many others. Big Israel also excludes many Jews including but not restricted to Anti Zionist Jews. Big Israel as a phrase follows from Big Government, Big Ag, Big Pharma ect. so again it is not Jewish specific.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  185. Wally says: • Website
    @Fran Macadam

    Really 3rd rate and juvenile Jew promotion, Fran.

    There was Hitler with the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there was Hitler without the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    [MORE]

    “Ach,” he said, “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”

    - “holocaust historian” Raul Hilberg

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    With no proof of ‘Nazi homicidal gas chambers’, no massive human remains that would necessarily exist, and no physical evidence by the thousands of tons that would be readily found IF the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline was factual, we are then left with desperate, unhinged Zionists.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    • Disagree: German_reader
    • Replies: @Fran Macadam
  186. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Promotion/defense of the interests of Israel has now reached a fever pitch in step with Israel’s being taken over by its own lunatic fringe. We are forced to rely on the American public to save America from being consumed in Israel’s vortex.

    God help us.

  187. The Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction in the ruling class of the American Empire is a clear and present danger to the national security interests of the United States. The Neo-Conservatives are using the US military as muscle to fight on behalf of Israeli foreign policy interests in the Middle East. American soldiers are being killed, maimed and fed into an endless war meat grinder for the benefit of a foreign nation.

    The Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction pushes mass immigration and multiculturalism for the United States. The Neo-Conservatives support Israel as a Jewish state and they also support walls and fences to protect the borders of Israel.

    The Neo-Conservatives have attempted to re-conceptualize the United States as a “proposition nation” and/or a “universal nation.” The Neo-Conservatives do this so they can assert that the US military must always fight for Israel because that is what a “universal” empire would do. The Neo-Conservatives do not want the European Christian ancestral core of the United States to have a narrowly defined foreign policy that exclusively puts the interests of the United States first.

    The weakness for the Neo-Conservative faction in the United States is the immigration issue. The immigration issue brings up questions of national identity that the Neo-Conservative Jews do not want spoken of in the United States.

    The Neo-Conservative hegemony over United States foreign policy will fade as the baby boomers depart the political scene. Americans of European Christian ancestry born before 1965 will no longer allow the Neo-Conservative Jews to have totalitarian control over the formation of United States foreign policy.

  188. @Philip Giraldi

    Agreed, Philip!

    Fran did likely “lose his mind” but the worst (self-Inflicted) damage was having let his soul take a nosedive upon the failing US macadam road infrastructure.

    Selah Israeli espiocracy Di Feinstein hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @Fran Macadam
    , @RobinG
  189. @Charles Pewitt

    The Neo-Conservative hegemony over United States foreign policy will fade as the baby boomers depart the political scene. Americans of European Christian ancestry born AFTER 1965 will no longer allow the Neo-Conservative Jews to have totalitarian control over the formation of United States foreign policy.

  190. Even if the reason why is that they are superior than the american people, that only will be half of the explanation.
    The other half is that the american people let them,allowed them to take over this nation.

  191. polskijoe says:
    @Castellio

    WASP have historically been pro-white, pro capitalist, skeptical of semites (Jews/Arabs).

    But their Protestant religion has more Judaism influence.
    “Jews are chosen”, “Israel is special”, and other such things.

    So you get people like the Fords, Trumans, Tafts
    who didnt like Jewish power. But in the end fell to pressure, accepted Israel, apologized.

  192. Rurik says:
    @George

    Yo Phil, give up on this Jew talk, it makes you sound stoopid.

    for grins, I check out what former CIA counter-terrorism luminary Michael Scheuer was writing these days, and who’d a thunk it?

    As always, the Jewish-American- sponsored, interventionist, and Neocon war against Saddam continues to close the Muslim noose around the neck of their country of first loyalty.

    http://non-intervention.com/

    perhaps the floodgates are finally opening

    what would most Jews in this country say if someone simply asked why AIPAC isn’t compelled to register as a foreign agent?

    would they say ‘yea, hell yes they should be made to register!’

    or would they say, ‘what are ya, an anti-Semite?!’

    I Binged this question to the cyber world,

    Why doesn’t AIPAC (Israeli Lobby) register itself as a foreign agent.?

    and this is what came back as ‘Best Answer”

    Answers

    Relevance

    Best Answer: AIPAC is the most poweful lobby in the world not only the U.S. They want to be registered as an American entity and this is their choic not you me or anyone can do anything becasue we will be immediatly be labeled as anti semitic.

    I have to be honest here and speak from my heart about this issue; American politicians obey Israel and will send their brave country men to fight for Israel; Jews control America, this happened in 1913 when American politicians were bought out by Europe elite bankers the Rothschilds through his sidekick Warburg were able to control the money supply of the U.S when the bribed traitors in congress voted for the creation of the Fed Reserve bank; and through their ever growing wealth they bought most politicians on the right and left through supporting their election campaigns, they bought the media (minds and thoughts) and other influential positions which means they own us and will give support for their true mother land (Israel) over the U,S at any time. check links and discover truths

    Youtube the creature from Jekyll Island on the creation of the Fed

    http://prince.org/msg/105/271100

    http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100325063715AAPpmoe

  193. iffen says:
    @silviosilver

    Most here who support the Palestinians do so

    Most of the Palestinian fan-boys here do it because they hate Jews.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @silviosilver
  194. zaknick says: • Website

    You don’t understand your enemy. The elders of Zion get their power from the devil. You must choose between good and evil. My website: usadevils dot com. Get a clue.

  195. zaknick says: • Website

    It’s a long and lonely road, Mr Giraldi. Pick up your cross. You are up against the Synagogue of Satan. The elders of Zion are powered by the immortal supernatural force called the devil. Illuminate yourself. My website usadevils dot com. God bless you.

  196. @Anon

    The sameness was a lack of gravitas. Thus I shall not bother to use my time finding the banned word. I hope PG tells me.

    • Replies: @Anon
  197. @Philip Giraldi

    That is how your article genuinely appeared to some folks, although your points about what you meant and wrote are I will accept accurate. I’m not going to be praising TAC for this. I’m glad you’re upset it was taken the wrong way. What I described is the connotation that could be taken by those inclined to do so, especially in the context of the rabid anti-semitic posts praising that interpretation. I guess they didn’t get it, either. Thus I respectfully submit that it would have been wiser for the sake of accurately reaching the reader to have added or used the better worded clarifying language you yourself suggested. It does seem we share some of the same concerns of our Jewish allies you mention.

    I’m too far from Washington to be infected with Potomac Fever. Things get warped inside that bubble and what inmates there think crazy is a case of them trying to run an asylum where down is up.

    • Replies: @Johnny F. Ive
  198. iffen says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    no government official with a vested interest should be making decisions that create a conflict of interest and produce bad policy

    You are making your conflict of interest dependent upon whether you think they have produced bad policy.

    Jew<vested interest (dual loyalty)<conflict of interest<bad policy<Jew

    Would it be okay if they had produced good policy?

  199. @Philip Giraldi

    Well, we know the answer to that one. Her own bread is buttered by the profits from a warfare state, so the Prince of Peace is outre.

  200. @Randal

    It surely has to be about money. Since Ron stopped propping it up with money anď widely read articles the editor’s salary inter alia must depend on one or more rich donors. Not much of a mystery. No doubt one or more of the parttimers working for TAC will blow a little whistle before long.

  201. @ChuckOrloski

    Still the mostest, bestest automotive roads in the world, outside the very limited instances of Autobahn.

  202. RobinG says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    “Fran you are out of your bleeding mind.’

    You just noticed?

  203. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You missed the point which was that if Facebook used the phrasing Mr. Giraldi quoted he wouldn’t know which word either.

  204. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I wouldn’t say Dreher’s anti-Trumpism is necessarily cucky.

    He takes his Christianity seriously and found Trump to be a loud phony.

    Also, whereas Trump cucked on ‘gay’ issues, Dreher hasn’t.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  205. geokat62 says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Fran you are out of your bleeding mind… Are you losing your mind?????

    Phil, as Fran herself has readily admitted, she is an evangelical xian:

    As you may have surmised, as an evangelical Christian, my policy views if not my orthodoxy are outside the group mainstream. So it’s the what, not the who, that’s important.

    Besides ascribing it to mental illness, the only other plausible explanation is that perhaps Fran, like some other evangelical commenters here at UR that defend the indefensible, is or sympathizes with current or former card-carrying members of CUFI.

    • Replies: @anon-og
  206. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Isn’t Fran a she? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.)

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  207. @Wally

    … As I predicted, the Nazi uniforms are off the hangers and out of the closet, and being pressed with steamy antisemitic Holocaust Denier rhetoric…

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Wally
  208. Randal says:
    @Fran Macadam

    I’ve seen a lot of your comments at TAC and here, and perhaps elsewhere, and you usually seem to make a lot of sense even if many of your positions are rather too apologetic towards politically correctness for my tastes. However in this post you seem to have completely lost any connection with reality and attributed to Giraldi a lot of things he never wrote, or even implied.

    Did you not read the piece properly before you criticised it, or are you struggling to maintain objectivity on this particular topic?

    You assert that Giraldi “ appeared to tar “the Jews” without differentiation” when in fact he repeatedly differentiated by referring to eg “Jewish groups and deep pocket individual donors”, “some of them”, “AIPAC”, “neocons”, “Those American Jews who are strongly attached to Israel”, “those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity”, “some rich and powerful American Jews are happy to deliver”.

    The title could be argued as implying such, but titles are commonly imprecise – because heavily abbreviated – and in any other area than these ones where political correctness is used as a weapon Giraldi’s title for the piece would just be regarded as perfectly reasonably provocative.

    Worse, you assert that he suggested “a religious and racial test be established to forbid Jews from being involved in government”! Going even further, you then went on to misrepresent his case still more egregiously as “a proposal to purge Jewish people from government service” and even as “mak[ing] the assumption that Jewish people, per se, are unsuitable for full citizenship. ”

    If you are going to state your support for rendering someone “unacceptable” for expressing a view, then you need to be absolutely honest and accurate about what those views are, not as sloppily dishonest as you have been here.

    the effectiveness if the main effort to reclaim U.S. Policy from foreign interests contrary to those of the American people will be made less effective.

    As unfortunate as the consequences are, to have any effectiveness in its mission, TAC had to distance itself from what Phil seemed to express

    If the supposed “mission of TAC” (not particularly in evidence at TAC the last few times I looked at it) is somehow advanced by kowtowing to political correctness bullying and the abuse of political taboos to silence men like Giraldi then I think it’s pretty clear that TAC has long outlived any use it might once have had, and has become part of the problem and not part of any solution.

    If you or TAC want to disagree with Giraldi’s suggestion that there is an issue with dual loyalty in some jewish people and in particular the most prominent and influential groups, then the way to do so is to argue the case, not to try to silence the opposing argument. It’s not remotely unreasonable to suggest that people with strong ethnic or religious ties to a foreign country should be watched for signs of bias in matter relating to their likely external loyalty, though it’s a case that’s open to rebuttal like any other. Whether that should be achieved by a blanket avoidance of employing them in the particular positions where that might be a problem, or by a selective individual assessment before doing so, is not a morally significant debate but merely one regarding appropriate tactics and policy.

    • Agree: polskijoe
    • Replies: @JackOH
  209. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Would I do something different if I were to write my article again today? Yes. I would have made clearer that I was not writing about all or most American Jews, many of whom are active in the peace movement and, like my good friend Jeff Blankfort and Glenn Greenwald, even figure among the leading critics of Israel.

    Those pushing for wars are Jewish THAN Jews are pushing for wars.

  210. Rurik says:
    @iffen

    because they hate Jews.

    do they? Or rather do they simply ‘hate’ some of the things that some Jews do?

    how many people do you know that say they hate Jerry Seinfeld, or Jerry Lewis, or Jerry Springer?

    how many people hate Louis Black or Mel Brooks or Lisa Bonet?

    Paul Newman might have supported some liberal causes, but do you know anyone on this planet that ever said they hated him?

    Debra Winger, Carl Reiner, Dustin Hoffman, the great Eli Wallach…

    or Barry Goldwater, or Steve Mnuchin or Stephan Miller…

    or Carl Sagan, who’ve I’ve mentioned often, or Ayn Rand, and on and on…

    All well known Jews, and nothing but respect or even love for their ability and accomplishments and contributions

    does anyone on the planet hate any of these people simply because they’re Jews?!

    that’s beyond idiotic, really

    but take what Bibi has done, and continues to do, and there are a lot of people indeed who hate what he has wrought, very much indeed!

    or Sumner Redstone and his cultural rot. No one would be able to bring themselves to have any passion about that rotting old corpse of a man. But for what he’s done to our young people with his media empire, there is a lot of disgust bordering on hatred for sure. For what he’s done.

    so make no mistake iffen, nobody hates Jews for being Jews. Hardly. But there are a lot of Palestinians and Germans and Christians that hate what Jews have done to their nations.

    there are a lot of decent and honorable men, like Joseph Sobran [RIP] who have every right to hate some Jews for what they did to his career.

    there are a lot of people who died on 9/11 who have every right to hate Larry Silverstein

    there are a lot of families of dead service members who have every right to hate Paul Wolfowitz or Wolf Blitzer, but not for being Jews, but rather for the evils that they have foisted upon people.

    do you understand?

    no one hates any Jew for being a Jew. But a lot of people are exasperated by some of the things some Jews do, you see?

    that’s the rub

    and the sooner Jews realize that they too can and should be subject to criticism when it’s merited, the sooner this preposterous farce can be put to rest.

    Of course (almost all) Jews have a passionate attachment to Israel, and of course we should keep duel citizenship holders a thousand miles away from the levers of power in this country.

    These steps are nothing less than obviously prudent, but the problem is, as soon as you mention them, ten Jews will screech from out of the woodwork that such a suggestion is anti-Semitic!!!!

  211. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Macadam

    What predict? Wally is on every thread on this site, with the same shtick 75% of the time.

    • Replies: @Wally
  212. This is an essay that is in Harmony with what Phil Giraldi has written…except that this piece was written more than 10 yrs ago…points at the 25 or so Neocons in DC and managed to keep his job I believe…so here’s a link to his article….Ari Shavit writing for Ha’aretz April 2003, just a few weeks after the US invasion of Iraq called “WHITE MAN’S BURDEN”

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/white-man-s-burden-1.14110

  213. Castellio says:
    @Fran Macadam

    You insist on misinterpreting Phil’s article, and then go on to claim that your misinterpretation is a valid reason for TAC’s decision.

    Bizarre.

  214. skopros says:

    Phil–
    As usual, a superb riposte to a slovenly, cowardly act. Don’t re-write anything. Say it plain as you have been. Yours articles are almost totally alone (with Bob Perry @ consortiumnews) in writing about life as it is, not as we–or they–would wish it.

    Keep on this theme; it’s a fruitful thread–even if a risky transit. You have been advancing along this line for a while, it seems: more and more plain spoken truth about the real world out there, in exercise of our disappearing right to speak freely. Do not be sidetracked: You will nevermore be loved or forgiven by the people you expose.

  215. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    Great comment, Rurik. If I may, I would make one slight revision to your concluding sentence (shown in bold):

    These steps are nothing less than obviously prudent, but the problem is, as soon as you mention them, ten Jews and one PEA brain will screech from out of the woodwork that such a suggestion is anti-Semitic!!!!

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  216. @Anonymous

    I once read a writing by a rabbi who stated that ‘white people are the only enemies that they fear’.

    Why? because whites are the only group that knows the origin, and behavior of ‘Jews’. Blacks, although the victims of Sephardi Jews, who from their base in Spain, were the slavers, and guilty of the slave trade, yet, blacks lack the intellectual capacity it seems to comprehend who their foes are, thus the anti white sentiment fomented by that devilish group led by the southern poverty law center, etc. As far as other minority groups, they are only interested about making money, and trying the so called ‘american dream’ which requires you to be asleep to ‘dream it”. I consider my self anti evil, i.e. abortion, sodomizers, family destroyers, etc. The so called ‘conservatives’ are really not up to the task. Why? they are afraid to loose their connections, money, etc. Are used to live the good life without rocking the boat, and as stated, without a government pension. I see the US as a place full of anti this, and anti that, conflict in the air, every one against every one, etc. It is a place where anything you say, can get you in trouble with such or such group of people. I remember sitting down with other airmen in Saudi Arabia a while ago, and they complaining about whites, Hispanics, and blacks, one thing or another. We laughed out loud! No one was offended, and all three races were present. Oh the camaraderie of the USAF! I never met a Jew in our group of fighters. They were busy financing the killings, I guess! Or fomenting sports to keep the goy busy watching sports, and failing tho ‘think’ what is going on for real.

  217. iffen says:
    @Rurik

    because they hate Jews.

    do they? Or rather do they simply ‘hate’ some of the things that some Jews do?

    I’m gonna stay with hate.

    Don’t you and geo and the others fret, there’s an honored place for everyone; apologist, propagandist, copier and paster of propaganda, pellet dropper, rubber boot ethusiast, etc.

  218. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “I never suggested that there be religious or ethnic tests”

    Ironic considering several Jewish senators have heavily implied a religious test vis-a-vi one of Trump’s recent Catholic nominees. Have they been condemned yet?

  219. @Fran Macadam

    Macadam: “… and we are going to at some point have our post-Weimar America.”

    Hey Nostrodamus reborn Fran,

    Both the pre and post-Weimar America is / will be brought to you by the letter “Z,” and Goldman Sachs Group soon will be scum sucking “pivot” profits in the Far East according to plan.

    (Sigh) I reckon homeys Gomer and Goober will look to Make Mayberry Great again. (Sigh)

    Do you by chance recall how Germany’s post-WW 2 (elected?) Masters victoriously hung a fine black banner on the Brandenburg Gate? It proudly proclaimed, “We mourn along with you.”

    I’m not eager to get “fired” at my school bus driver job, but I’d really like to hang a purple banner upon the White House gate that screams, “I mourn for the loquacious resident who played-along to get-along with TAC and let P. Giraldi get fired w/o a tweet.”

    Selah Adenauer Merkel Pence May.

  220. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “The problem with Phil’s piece isn’t that it tells the truth, but that the way it was written, it appeared to tar “the Jews” without differentiation, which would be an arguably racist and a false accusation”

    That’s a fair point, but consider this: how many people have defended the “truth” of his argument, or at least the grains of truth within the article that many fair-minded people would consider inarguable? Perhaps there has been someone, but I haven’t noticed too many. In that case, wouldn’t it be fair to suspect that the real problem these people had was with what he said and not with how he said it? Perhaps Giraldi is right but simply gave the wrong people the excuse to silence his argument by his inartful wording.

    In any case, TAC could resolve this issue by running the Walt/Mearsheimer piece (The Israel Lobby) on their front page for a few days. That would answer the question of whether Giraldi’s critics simply wished to silence his argument or not.

  221. Art says:
    @Jake

    Opposing the ‘Jewish problem’ by becoming pro-Islamic in any way is like defeating your heroin addiction with meth. You destroy yourself either way.

    Gee – maybe we are having Islamic problems BECAUSE of our Jew problem – could that be?????

    There is a 100% chance that if we stop having Jew problems we will also stop having Islamic problems.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Jake
  222. geokat62 says:

    I’m gonna stay with hate.

    Spoken like a true (former) Christian.

  223. @RobinG

    Hey RobinG,

    Sounding like Lou Reed, I really don’t if Fran is a he or a she.

    What I do know is that tomorrow is the Catholic feast day of Saint Fran(cis) of Assissi!

    Selah hey baby take a walk on the Rothschild Way wild side.

    Thanks, RobinG. B.T.W., I don’t know your gender!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  224. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “If you found your comments rejected at the American Conservative, they must have been insultingly egregious. Their automatic blocking software trashcans any that brandish the epithet “cuckservative.””

    Not really. Comments are many times trashed for simply not agreeing with the author’s perspective, especially if it’s a good point the author can’t rebut which also happens to be politically incorrect (immigration, crime statistics, IQ, etc.)…and certain authors do this more than others, even demeaning the commenter with an edited/snarky note attached if it is published – no profanity needed.

    “Trying to engage seriously here bears some resemblance to the futility of teaching pigs to sing – it apparently really annoys them, while wasting time.”

    ‘Engaging seriously’ does not mean having your opinion automatically validated by others because you think it is right, which is what I often find at TAC. Obviously, you’d like it better there as you’d be preaching to the choir with little pushback.

  225. Brilliant, truthful article. Don’t change anything. People who are
    offended by truth need to be offended. They need a wake up call.
    In the case of the Alinskys, it won’t do any good. Neither will sugar
    coating facts.

  226. Art says:
    @Rurik

    Those Jewish celebrities you sighted – where working in Western culture endeavors – bless their accomplishments – what was their attitude when it came to Israeli politics and America?

    Think Peace — Art

  227. Rich says:

    I’ve written it before, but feel it necessary to write again, thank Heaven for Mr Unz, his web site and his dedication to free speech, that allows us to read different views, some we may agree with, and some we may not. When he fought to end bilingual education he became a well known man, for this web site, he deserves our thanks and our appreciation.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes, lavoisier
  228. Anon-og says:
    @Rurik

    “do they? Or rather do they simply ‘hate’ some of the things that some Jews do?”

    Your whole comment was dead on and well said!!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  229. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “The problem with neocons and their fellow travelers, many of the latter less Jewish than Hitler himself, is their faulty and destructive values, not their genetic origin.”

    No, that’s a distortion. Your comment suggests that it is mere happenstance that neocons are the way they are, as if their beliefs just happened to have fallen from the sky. That’s usually not the case.

    It is not unreasonable to conclude that many neocons are motivated by an inappropriate attachment to a foreign country given:

    1. the most influential neocons are disproportionately Jewish

    2. many of these same people are strongly pro-Israel (is there even one example of an anti-Israeli neocon…even one?)

    3. many of their views track with the current government of Israel’s policies (something pointed out in the Israel Lobby)

    4. there exists a series of organizations with breathtaking influence and wealth dedicated to advancing neocons and their policies – organizations that also just happen to be heavily pro-Israel

    5. neocons seem more heavily fixated on Israel’s immediate neighborhood than many other important locations around the planet.

    • Replies: @polskijoe
    , @ANON
  230. Hugo says:

    Bingo. Nothing else needs to be said. Let’s apply that to all our relationships with foreign nations.

  231. Hugo says:
    @iffen

    Yawn. Gentiles don’t hate Jewish 1/3 as much as Jews hate Gentiles.

  232. Tyrion says:

    Mr Giraldi,

    Being Jewish but also a Brit, I don’t really get your article. It seems that there were about 15 mostly Jewish intellectuals who had a dream of democratising the Middle East.

    Part of the reason they wanted to do this was to improve Israel’s neighbourhood, and they have also been pretty anti-Assad and the Iran deal for the same reason.

    Their influence seems to have been important in getting the US into the Iraq debacle, although Americans Jews were probably more anti war than pro war as compared to the general population and so it is a bit mad to blame Jews for that.

    Assad has also remained in power and the Iran deal is being kept to, so, again, not sure what the fuss is about.

    As for your firing from TAC: the article was pretty sloppy and rather taints the conservative anti war movement by bridging from it to the type of comments made below your article. Should someone be fired for one poorly conceived and unproductive article? Probably not, that is what editing is for, so you have my full sympathies.

    As for the comments, I tried to come up with an hyperbolic way to describe them to make a point, but I couldn’t. Their descriptions of Jews are insurmountable in their nastiness. Who are these people? Does anyone really think this way about anyone?

    I appreciate that asking a journalist to criticise his biggest fans is unfair, but since your biggest fans seem to be people in the grips of paranoid schizophrenic delusions about some sort of synagogue of Satan controlling the world – does this not cause you at least a little concern?

    As for you general anti-war journalism. Best of luck!

    Not one of the countries we have intervened in has been worth the sacrifice of our young servicemen.

  233. KenH says:

    I think events since the mid 1990′s have shown that it was a grave mistake to put Jews in the catbird seat of Middle East foreign policy. Conflict of interest is putting things mildly and the persons and groups cited by Phil Giraldi in his original article are avowed agents of a foreign power (Israel) in my view.

    Anyone who read the original article with an open mind and a modicum of objectivity couldn’t conclude that Giraldi was blaming the entirety of U.S. Jewry for America’s wars. I didn’t come away with that impression. It was only hysterical anti-anti Semites, both Jewish and non-Jewish, who characterized it as such and as some sort of baseless anti-Jewish polemic with which to libel the author and intimidate those that might follow in his footsteps.

    Therefore no rewrite is necessary and I think any effort to do so would be construed as an admission of guilt by the enemies of free speech and America first nationalism and give them reason to gloat.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @L.K
  234. @Ronald Thomas West

    RTW (and @DaveE),

    I totally concur. I recall being very much struck by Nietzsche’s position, voiced in his work The Anti-Christ, that Paul (formerly Saul) was the greatest disaster possible to have struck the nascent Christian community. For those not totally up to speed here, Saul was a leading Pharisee (a group persistently called on the carpet by Jesus), and a dedicated persecutor of the followers of Jesus prior to his supposed “conversion experience” on the road to Damascus where he was bound to root out followers of Jesus. But Nietzsche’s view was that he brought over all of the controlling zealotry of his Pharisaic past into his future conduct in the community of Jesus’ followers with all that that implied for the future. His was actually a diametrically opposed worldview from that of the spiritually alive and mystical Jesus. Boy, did this make a world of sense to me.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  235. El Dato says:
    @Fran Macadam

    How come you know so much about TAC’s “blocking software”? (and I thought that blocking software was being frowned upon because it might turn out to be racist)

    insultingly egregious

    What does it even mean to be “insultingly egregious” towards blocking software?

    “I’m sorry goy, you can’t post that!”

    smug_anime_girl.jpg

  236. @Jake

    Heartily agree, Jake. That’s one reason why I don’t read Dreher or visit TAC as often as unz.com, VDare, or Lew Rockwell these days.

    If TAC has now cut ties with Sailer on top of letting a suicidally-naive oddity like Dreher effectively be their most prominent public face, I’ll stop going to TAC entirely….

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  237. El Dato says:
    @KenH

    Correct.

    If “not backing down in face of Nazis” is supposed to be laudable, then not backing down in the face of the Anti-antisemitic industry is laudable.

  238. renfro says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    ” American Conservative is Israel occupied territory”>>>>

    YES,,,it is. I now avoid it.

  239. @Charles Pewitt

    The challenge of our time, from my view of the world is to figure out how to have common currency in regions, without instituting common (or top down) culture, and limit the political commandeering. The reason this is important is that productive worthy people deserve a stable medium of exchange and history shows the best way to achieve that is with mass (I.E. because the EU constitutes a 500M Human Mass, it cannot have all the capital sucked out of it, and this is a major positive particularly for its smaller states). This view, at least the belief that more than one reserve currency may exist and that they can free float against one another is at odds with the wishes of much neo-connery, neo-liberally, large swaths of international finance, city of London leadership, and possibly influential portions of world Jewry. The Empire wants the World Bank and the IMF to run any sort of mixed reserve arrangement through their favored SDR. The Empire is not real keen on the idea of others achieving independence, in fact the Empire is not in favor of people of their host nation achieving Independence. But good men the world over all believe that independence is good. Catalonia should be a good test case to prove that having a stable medium of exchange that allows changes in political structures or states while maintaining stability is for certain a really good thing. It is in this vein that those who support movements for independence respect the important work going on today in this realm. Perhaps the Euro will allow other portions of Europe to emerge, and reclaim their unique heritage, like Flanders for example.

    Or stated differently it is important that we figure out how to negate some of the negative effects of the present paradigm of the global finance industry, or we are going to wind up with more human ruination through poor governance as failed models are put back again into practice. The Euro has prevented a lot of this from coming to the fore, despite all the media kvetching, and despite the dread in the boardrooms of the City of London and elsewhere.

    The value of the euro region is the currency, not the politics, at least to those from my viewpoint. The theory behind making this work remains speculative, but it is certainly possible, as we see presently. Places able to figure this out, and the EU is the test case, will be able to serve their citizens needs well, and will be a source of confidence for their activities. Stable money is good for people, it’s good for business (much of finance industry excluded) and good men should work towards refining the theory behind it for the benefit of mankind. The timing is good with electric cars coming to the mass market because fears over petroleum security prevented the ability of good men to want to offer this to others for fear of slitting their own throats domestically in the process.

    I suspect in time we will see a similar effort in Asia.

    The Empire’s idea of turning the world into the same commercial district you see in every US city pretty much sucks, and is hopefully on its way out.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  240. polskijoe says:
    @Anon

    Zbig might have been a neoconservative and was critical of Israel.

    But also rapidly antiRussian just like neocons.

    (Neocons are found in both Republican and Democrats right?)

  241. chris says:

    Maybe, in order to underscore our whole discussion here, you’ve got to love the title of this article from RT, yesterday.

    https://www.rt.com/news/405540-israel-syria-us-russia-iran/

    I have no reason to doubt it’s authenticity and it certainly seems to spell out the true nature of our relationship.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  242. renfro says:
    @Tyrion

    ” Being Jewish but also a Brit, I don’t really get your article. It seems that there were about 15 mostly Jewish intellectuals who had a dream of democratising the Middle East.”

    … ‘ democratising the Middle East’ ?…..Utter hasbara.

    Good luck convincing anyone who has observed the Israeli Fifth Column in the US and Israel for any length of time of that.

    As far as Jews go it is perfectly legitimate to hold a positive view of individual Jews, the Jew qua Jew and a negative opinion of the tribe, the ‘Jew qua nation.’

    The Jew qua nation was exactly what was debated during the Enlightenment ..iow the tribalism of the Jews, their practice of forming a ‘nation within a nation’ to benefit themselves and not the nation they actually lived in……… was deemed undesirable and the nations extended citizenship to the Jews on the condition that it be Jews qua Jews.

    As we see the “leaders’ of the Jews have learned nothing, they are doing the same thing here today they did in every century. “If ‘the Jewish collective doesn’t want to be tarred with the same brush as their self appointed leaders they need to denounce them and not support them.

    Your organizations should change your slogan from Never Again to Never Learn.

  243. Art says:
    @Tyrion

    Their influence seems to have been important in getting the US into the Iraq debacle, although Americans Jews were probably more anti war than pro war as compared to the general population and so it is a bit mad to blame Jews for that.

    That statement is mendacious to the extreme – Zionist Jews where all over the push for the Iraq war. Also 9/11 itself is knee deep in Jews. Most Jew support Zionism.

    You cannot keep lying about this forever – you Jews must start taking responsibility for you actions in supporting Israel to the detriment of your countries.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @druid
  244. Anon-og says:
    @Tyrion

    “Not one of the countries we have intervened in has been worth the sacrifice of our young servicemen.”
    That’s putting things lightly.
    Not worth the lives of the innocent non-combatant residents of those nations either.

  245. Anon-og says:
    @chris

    Idiotic strategies devised by “chairborne” warmongers and their civilian killing Israeli commandos should never be taken seriously. How about don’t destroy sovereign nations if you don’t want neighboring nations to not be alarmed and take action. These Jews have a lot of chutzpah ……

  246. @Rurik

    Well, I do hate Ayn Rand. Her whole concept of the destroyer seems very Jewish. Everything about her screams Jewish totalitarian. Her contempt for the common man was easily a hatred for average whites at the time she was writing her major works. I don’t understand the loyalty and fascination that many on the right hold for her.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @druid
  247. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Your 5th point is grossly unfair. Didn’t your mother teach you to tidy up the mess you made in your own playground before starting a new mess in a new neighbourhooď?

  248. El Dato says:
    @Tyrion

    As for the comments, I tried to come up with an hyperbolic way to describe them to make a point, but I couldn’t. Their descriptions of Jews are insurmountable in their nastiness. Who are these people? Does anyone really think this way about anyone?

    I dunno. Ask Jews about Palestinians or Self-Hating Jews. Be amazed.

    I appreciate that asking a journalist to criticise his biggest fans is unfair, but since your biggest fans seem to be people in the grips of paranoid schizophrenic delusions about some sort of synagogue of Satan controlling the world – does this not cause you at least a little concern?

    The strawman, it’s burning. It must be the added tar.

    Yelling at the comment section does not make a clear and present problem (which is, the selling of wars on behalf of very special, very foreign interests) go away.

  249. El Dato says:
    @Tyrion

    Assad has also remained in power and the Iran deal is being kept to, so, again, not sure what the fuss is about.

    You must be joking. History begins last week, right?

    We have had to endure “Iran will have the Bomb NEXT WEEK” talking points since about 2003, just after the “Saddam will have the Gas/Bomb/Germs NEXT WEEK” message which was being pushed for 10 years, immediately after “gassing his own people” directly after Gulf War 1.

    We got the “birth pangs of the New Middle East” (aka. a vicious wrecking of the infrastructure of Lebanon) and at least two punitive expeditions into the Occupied Territories. Conveniently forgotten. Not particularly worthy of mention. Excused. Understood.

    It got to the point where we were shitting bricks about the incessant warmongering concerning Iran (and, may I remind you, for no good reason except one) around 2007. The IAEA’s findings were all rather neutral but the US wasn’t happy and was using the “smoking laptop” (source from the One) as proof of foul play. CentCom Commander Fallon had to affirm that an attack on Iran would “not happen on my watch”. Even now the US is regularly trying to find fault with Iran. If it isn’t heavy water stocks, it’s ballistic missiles or the spirit of the letter of the treaty or the fact that they did 9/11, too. Or maybe some Iranian was seen in Yemen. The plans to visit regime change on Iran is not shelved, make no mistake. Reasons? None in particular, I guess. (Just in: Iran compliant with nuclear deal, we should ‘stay with’ it – US Defense Secretary. Good)

    Lybia got heavily liberated, still not quite sure why. Well, Ghadaffi the cutout villain was not particularly friendly to the One, as I remember. Could be a reason.

    Currently Syria is a fantastic wreckhole. Yes, it’s partly of their own making. Assad senior came up with the suicide bombing idea to the get the US out of the Middle East and Assad junior dropped jihadis into Iraq, which morphed into epic blowback. Most of it is on the Israel-Wahabbi “friendly” coalition though, in which the US willingly participates. Indeed the US seems to be ramping up involvement and pushing for incidents with Russia lately. Any reason in this? The US really must love the Syrian people. I wonder what will happen once the situation has stabilized.

    (This made me look up the Syrian Nuclear Pile at Deir Ezzor, that was quite a story back in 2007.)

    • Replies: @Anon-og
    , @L.K
    , @Randal
  250. Phil, you’ve stuck your neck out for a long time to inform and warn Americans of the overwhelming influence of a foreign nation over this one, to the detriment of us all.

    I’m rooting for you, as always. You know in your heart, it’s the right thing to do. And you can sleep at night with a clear conscience.

    Thank you for serving the American people in so many ways. God bless you.

    Fight the good fight every moment
    Every minute every day
    Fight the good fight every moment
    It’s your only way

  251. Anon-og says:

    “We hope that the United States will be more active in the Syrian arena and in the Middle East in general, Avigdor Lieberman said in an interview with Israel’s Walla news on Tuesday.”

    Are American “interventions” in Iraq, Syria, Libya etc not enough for you, you feckless Israeli fuck?????

    https://www.rt.com/news/405540-israel-syria-us-russia-iran/

  252. If it was the editor, Robert W. Merry holds that post. There are a lot of antiwar folks there who hold official titles as editors as well, some prominent on sites like antiwar.com, who aren’t shy about going after neocon policies and those who advance them. It would be interesting to hear their take on this imbroglio, because they are not exactly shy about going up against the status quo, and have regarded Phil collegially in common cause.

    I think at one time or another, I’ve disagreed on some point with all of them, probably the least of all with Phil Giraldi. But I can tell you, I regard all who oppose warmaking anyhow as allies for that purpose. As for the SJW types, my opinion of them can be determined by the doxxing internet campaign they conducted to try to destroy my livelihood and to shut me up through intimidation and fabrication.

    I don’t think that what TAC is engaging in is censorship; no magazine has an obligation to publish anyone, or promote something they think contrary to their objectives. The surest way to defeat an antiwar policy is to yoke it to opinions that will discredit that. I do think a principled rejection of the extremist antisemitic comments that for whatever reasons Phil’s comments attract, would go a long way to dispel the impression that perhaps he approves of the untoward things they promote, even if he chooses to let them use his column as an act of live and let live toleration.

    That said, I’ve had several instances of being given the chance to pursue other opportunities, and I have to admit the experience did nothing to make me think well of those who made it clear it wasn’t just a suggestion.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @iffen
    , @druid
  253. renfro says:

    One of the first things I came across when trying to pinpoint when the Islamic threat was first being ‘ginned up’ in the US was this essay written in 1992. It is so accurate it could have been written yesterday. I think anyone could guess at which foreign country had the individuals and journalist and congressional clout in the US to create the idea of a ‘Green Peril’.

    https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/green-peril-creating-islamic-fundamentalist-threat

    The “Green Peril”: Creating the Islamic Fundamentalist Threat
    By Leon T. Hadar
    August 27, 1992

    excerpts..

    The Making of a “Peril”

    The Islamic threat argument is becoming increasingly popular with some segments of the American foreign policy establishment. They are encouraged by foreign governments who, for reasons of self-interest, want to see Washington embroiled in the coming West vs. Islam confrontation. The result is the construction of the new peril, a process that does not reflect any grand conspiracy but that nevertheless has its own logic, rules and timetables.
    Indeed, like the Red Menace of the Cold War era, the Green Peril is perceived as a cancer spreading around the globe,undermining the legitimacy of Western values and political systems. The cosmic importance of the confrontation would make it necessary for Washington to adopt a long term diplomatic and military strategy; to forge new and solid alliances; to prepare the American people for a never ending struggle that will test their resolve; and to develop new containment policies, new doctrines, and a new foreign policy elite with its “wise men” and “experts.”

    The creation of a peril usually starts with mysterious “sources” and unnamed officials who leak information, float trial balloons, and warn about the coming threat. Those sources reflect debates and discussions taking place within government. Their information is then augmented by colorful intelligence reports that finger exotic and conspiratorial terrorists and military advisers. Journalists then search for the named and other villains. The media end up finding corroboration from foreign sources who form an informal coalition with the sources in the U.S. government and help the press uncover further information substantiating the threat coming from the new bad guys.

    In addition, think tanks studies and op-ed pieces add momentum to the official spin. Their publication is followed by congressional hearings, policy conferences, and public press briefings. A governmental policy debate ensues, producing studies, working papers, and eventually doctrines and policies that become part of the media’s spin. The new villain is now ready to be integrated into the popular culture to help to mobilize public support for a new crusade. In the case of the Green Peril, that process has been under way for several months.

    The Israeli government and its supporters in Washington are trying to play the Islamic card. The specter of Central Asian republics and Iran equipped with nuclear weapons helps Israel to reduce any potential international pressure on it to place its own nuclear capabilities and strategy on the negotiating table. More important, perhaps, the Green Peril could revive, in the long run, Israel’s role as America’s strategic asset, which was eroded as a result of the end of the Cold War
    The operational message is that the United States “must refocus its policy on the basic problems facing the Islamic world rather than only the Arab-Israeli conflict.”[23] Jerusalem’s attempts to turn that conflict into a Jewish-Moslem confrontation and to place America on its side to help contain radical Moslem forces in the region may become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The result is likely to be strengthened anti-American feelings in the Middle East and anti-American terrorist acts, which, in turn, will invite a new round of American military intervention.”

  254. Alfred says:

    Thing move in cycles. Right now, the Jews are in ascendent. That inevitably leads to hubris and downfall. The Israelis have not won outright any war since 1967. Since then, they have used the USA to do their dirty work.

    And yet people wonder why Jews were discriminated against many times and in many places historically.

  255. L.K says:
    @KenH

    KenH: “Anyone who read the original article with an open mind and a modicum of objectivity couldn’t conclude that Giraldi was blaming the entirety of U.S. Jewry for America’s wars. I didn’t come away with that impression. It was only hysterical anti-anti Semites, both Jewish and non-Jewish, who characterized it as such and as some sort of baseless anti-Jewish polemic with which to libel the author and intimidate those that might follow in his footsteps.”

    You have nailed it, Ken. That is exactly what they are doing.

    At the end of the day, Mr. Giraldi is going through what all of those with some visibility who denounce the Zionist machinations, or, for that matter, Jewish power and its consequences, must endure.

    Mr. Giraldi should rewrite nothing.

  256. Wally says: • Website
    @Fran Macadam

    Ah yes, the typical unhinged, juvenile Zionist drooling proves that I’m right.
    That’s what they do when they are beaten by rational, scientific facts.

    And why do so many people want ’6M Jews & 5M others’ to be dead? Revisionists don’t.
    Revisionists bring good news, Jews should be elated.

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  257. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon

    Indeed, I’m here mopping the floor with you and those like you. My pleasure.

    In fact those at http://www.unz.com are generally slapping you clowns silly. Pay attention.

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    Everyone, see the latest at http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  258. Druid says:

    H911 was an inside job

  259. L.K says:
    @El Dato

    Though I agree with most of what you wrote, the following is totally FALSE;
    “Yes, it’s partly of their own making. Assad senior came up with the suicide bombing idea to the get the US out of the Middle East and Assad junior dropped jihadis into Iraq, which morphed into epic blowback.”

    The war in Syria is fully a ZUSA regime change operation, Zionist inspired/thought out, and, to a large extent, but not exclusively, paid for by the Wahhabi regimes of Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

  260. Druid says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Agree and unfortunately the vast majority of ‘ordinary ‘ Jews will side with Zionist Israel when push comes to shove. Catering to these Trina lists never helps. It’s another notch for them

  261. renfro says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Maybe one of these Jews……suggest you give up your defense…..there are simply way too many examples of this in Jews who are in our politics and media…it was Chuck Schumer who said the reason he went into politics was to defend Israel.

    Eric Alterman
    ……http://mondoweiss.net/2011&#8230; ………. “”I am a dual loyal Jew and sometimes I’m going to actually go with Israel, because the United States can take an awful lot of hits and come up standing. Whereas if Israel takes one serious bad hit it could disappear. So there’s going to be some cases where I go with Israel…
    “”I think that bin Laden and 9/11 were to some degree inspired by U.S. support of Israel. I think a great deal of the terrorist attacks and the sort of pool of potential terrorists who want to attack the United States are inspired by the United States support for Israel. I’m not saying we shouldn’t support Israel for that reason. I’m saying, Dammit if that’s the price we have to pay, then I’m willing to pay it.”

    or

    Sheldon] Adelson ,political super donor for pro Israel policies, said he wished he had served in the Israeli Army rather than the U.S. military—and that he hoped his young son would come back to Israel and “be a sniper for the IDF,” a reference to the Israel Defense Forces

    or

    American congressman: US economic woes won’t affect Israel .. http://www.jpost.com/…/American-congressman-US-economic-woes-wont-affe…‎ Aug 11, 2011 – US Congressman Steny Hoyer says financial challenges “will not … American congressman: US economic woes won’t affect Israel … to Israel in the form of aid for its qualitative [military] superiority, or for its economic security

  262. @Fran Macadam

    I agree with Fran that the article could be taken the wrong way. It could have used a qualifier “few American Jews” throughout it. The crazy Christian Zionist doomsday cult should have been brought up with its numerous aging adherents. There are a lot of people that get on TV that should have a warning label due to their disloyalty and affections for at least foreign money like the experts from think tanks. Anyone taken foreign money or have close relations with foreign governments should not be working for them in the government. It wasn’t broad enough so it looked like American Jews are being targeted specifically. They are clearly the most powerful group but they aren’t the only ones. It gives American Jews encouragement to keep their silly beliefs instead of assimilate if they feel threatened as a whole which we don’t want. We want ethnicity to be interesting heritage that someone has and not something important. People are marrying out of the tribe. We are becoming more secular so the fairy tales are losing their grip on new generations of Americans. Its just not happening fast enough.

    Then again Philip Giraldi wouldn’t be Philip Giraldi if he didn’t express his feelings and thoughts exactly as he has them. What he said was accurate and true. Can you imagine Michael Scheuer not writing passionately about armed insurrection and watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants? A careful dry academic style like Paul Pillar would get the job done but it wouldn’t be as provocative but it would have a better chance of slipping through the censors.

    • Replies: @Art
  263. @Fran Macadam

    Do NOT re-write your Article, dear Phil, and I speak as a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian.

    I grew up in an upper-middle class B’nai B’rith synagogue and believe me, MOST American Jews support the warmongering program of the establishment Jewish Lobbies and think tanks.

    I speak with authority here having grown up INSIDE the Jewish community. Oh, many Jews might say to the goyim, ‘I’m against all this war talk.’ BUT with their fellow Jewish ‘lantsmen’ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS they’re ALL for war against Israel’s perceived enemies.

    Every Sabbath Shacharit (morning) service growing up in the 50′s we sang Hatikvah, the Israeli National Anthem. It was part of our ‘religion’ that what’s bad for Israel is bad for all Jews.

    Today that would include all the nations that oppose and/or countering the Zionist project: Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and now Russia.

    Do NOT re-write your Article. You would be voicing a falsehood. +Brother Nathanael Kapner

  264. Dear Phil,

    I speak as a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian.

    I grew up in an upper-middle class B’nai B’rith synagogue and believe me, MOST American Jews support the warmongering program of the establishment Jewish Lobbies and think tanks.

    I speak with authority here having grown up INSIDE the Jewish community. Oh, many Jews might say to the goyim, ‘I’m against all this war talk.’ BUT with their fellow Jewish ‘lantsmen’ BEHIND CLOSED DOORS they’re ALL for war against Israel’s perceived enemies.

    Every Sabbath Shacharit (morning) service growing up in the 50′s we sang Hatikvah, the Israeli National Anthem. It was part of our ‘religion’ that what’s bad for Israel is bad for all Jews.

    Today that would include all the nations that oppose and/or countering the Zionist project: Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and now Russia.

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner

  265. @JerseyJeffersonian

    “Nietzsche’s view was that he brought over all of the controlling zealotry of his Pharisaic past into his future conduct in the community of Jesus’ followers with all that that implied for the future. His was actually a diametrically opposed worldview from that of the spiritually alive and mystical Jesus”

    I have no argument with Nietzche’s view, at all, as you put forward. Clearly Paul was rules-bound in the extreme. I would simply add 1) Paul did not hesitate to introduce elements of the Greek ‘mystery religions’ when it suited him (to appeal to his Greek audience) and 2) It would almost seem (going on your interpretation, I’d not read Nietzsche except for bits here and there) that Nietzsche read Jefferson:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/04/11/celebrating-the-anti-christ/

    ^

  266. @Philip Giraldi

    Phil,

    My neck is not in the noose, so I can’t imagine the pressure you must be under. I hope you don’t rewrite the article despite the urging of several commenters here. You are a patriot who called a spade a spade. If the shoe fits…

    If we “wimp out” because of the consequences of our words and actions, we further empower the bullies that have weakened us. Let us, instead, figure out how to redouble our resistance to those who manipulate us to our destruction.

  267. @Anon

    Actually my second paragraph that you refer to was wrong. Sowhat #78 had already nominated Stephen Paddock as a patsy for conspirators!

  268. helena says:
    @Jake

    What do you mean by WASP culture? Do you mean Episcopalian or other denomination? The term isn’t used in UK anymore. From my experience of Anglican culture, English parents, surviving in the upper professional class was contingent upon mixing with many Jewish people. Choice wasn’t an issue. I imagine it was the same in the US. But aren’t the people who are ideologically pro-Zion the Evangelists and other Old Testament Christians?

  269. @Tom Welsh

    After living in US for 4 years realise the American War of Independence is not a simple case of US v UK. It was more like a first civil war with British and American fighting British and American supporters. Also it took place not long after the French Indian War (which incidentally George Washington fighting for the British helps to start by attacking). In this war UK spend vast amounts of money defending their colony from the French. We won that war but were broke. One important policy to come out of that war was the demand that there should be no more expansion of land West as it was provoking the native Indians. So we saved the US in that war. The taxes on tea, sugar etc was a way to pay for the war. However George 3 did no favours when they wanted representation in return for taxation and he refused.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  270. @Philip Giraldi

    And another thing – the news of your being fired is ricocheting across the Internet with multiple stories about it. Here is the latest at VT:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/03/former-cia-officer-philip-giraldi-got-fired-for-exposing-warmongers-and-ethnic-cleansers/

    TAC will rue their action as their readership falls off a cliff.

  271. Agha says:

    The sheer scope of the deception of the American people through the last century is mind-boggling. A massive awakening is required. All America’s wars since the early 1900s have come to pass because of Jewish nationalist lobbies and their manipulations.

  272. That the almighty Israel Lobby is going berserk, Geraldi must have done everything right!

  273. JackOH says:
    @Randal

    ” . . . [T]itles are commonly imprecise . . .”.

    Exactly. “Grabber” titles or headlines, sometimes followed by “screamers” (exclamation points), are not at all a rarity in publishing. “Gold Mine in Your Basement!!!”, for example, and beneath that title, a detailed article about a family in Oshkosh who took a mess of found baseball cards to auction.

    I, too, noticed right away that Mr. Giraldi’s forthright accusations were in bounded, qualified language. Maybe I’m missing something, but I see nothing wrong with saying there are a bunch of people held together by common ties whose judgment about Mideast policies is too goddamned clouded by emotional or money attachments to Israel. Mr. Giraldi has the experience and the chops to say that.

  274. @iffen

    It’s just obvious the Palestinians’ cause is just. That doesn’t change regardless of how someone feels about Jews. You really need some new lines.

  275. @iffen

    I’m gonna stay with hate.

    Jews, of course, are simply never motivated by hate, no way. Lol.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  276. Randal says:
    @El Dato

    We have had to endure “Iran will have the Bomb NEXT WEEK” talking points since about 2003

    A lot longer than that:

    Iran’s Ever Imminent Nukes: A History of Hysteria

  277. Here’s another example of how ostensibly “American-Jewish” organizations work with the Israeli government to advance its interests and spread its propaganda to the US public. If this organization were not Jewish and therefore de facto immune to consequences, it likely would be required to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act of 1938.

    https://972mag.com/standwithus-to-take-cash-messaging-from-israeli-govt/101314/

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  278. geokat62 says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    I grew up in an upper-middle class B’nai B’rith synagogue and believe me, MOST American Jews support the warmongering program of the establishment Jewish Lobbies and think tanks.

    But, but,… Brother Nathanael, Sam Shama has assured us that that wasn’t the case (he even has polls to prove it).

    Who are the Dumb Goyim supposed to believe, a commodity trader or a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian?

  279. @Linda Green

    The challenge of our time, from my view of the world is to figure out how to have common currency in regions, without instituting common (or top down) culture, and limit the political commandeering.

    While true as far as it goes, an even bigger and more fundamental challenge is to figure out ways to keep systems and institutions from being perverted into money and power centers for the few, in opposition to the rest of us.

    Based on what I’ve been observing regarding human behavior, I ain’t exactly sanguine about the prospects for that.

  280. Randal says:
    @Fran Macadam

    The surest way to defeat an antiwar policy is to yoke it to opinions that will discredit that.

    And the surest way to ensure that anti-war arguments keep on getting defeated is to reinforce the very political taboos that are used to discredit it in the way TAC does and you are arguing for here.

    The idea that by desperately appeasing the political correctness enforcers it will be possible to have a movement that is both “respectable” and substantial enough to affect policy is hopelessly naïve. It doesn’t matter how much you apologise and trim and weasel-word your arguments, you will still be accused of being motivated by “anti-Semitism” if you oppose wars for Israel, or of “racism” or “islamophobia” if you oppose mass immigration, etc.

    All that all your trimming and apologies and desperate attempts to stay respectable will accomplish will be to have strengthened and legitimised the very forces making the false accusations, whilst dividing and demoralising your own potential support.

    There are a lot of antiwar folks there who hold official titles as editors as well, some prominent on sites like antiwar.com

    Doubtless, but antiwar.com is dishonest on political correctness topics as well. I have personal experience of their editor lying by misrepresenting conservative opinions as “hatred”. That is the standard politically correct lie behind most such censorship, and it is the lie behind TAC’s position as well.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  281. JNDillard says:

    Elizabeth Kübler-Ross’ five stages of grief, Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance are important for understanding not only individual behavior when we are faced with personal loss but entire societies and civilizations. At this point Lieberman, Israel, the CIA, the US deep state, NATO and the EU are still fluctuating between denial and anger. The anger isn’t even totally authentic yet; it is still mostly “Big Bad Wolf” winning by intimidation anger. As it starts to dawn on these good people in the West that they are seriously screwed, we will begin to see authentic anger emerge. That is, of course, the most dangerous stage, because that is when the sense of threat to hubris, arrogance, assumed privilege, control and power is greatest. We will mostly have to rely on cooler heads, like Putin, Xi, and Assad, to pull us through without WWIII. You will know that we are through the worst when these disciples of freedom and democracy start wanting to do some authentic, serious bargaining, of the type where they actually have to give up something valuable. They are only play bargaining at this point. You can see the same thing with the US “bargaining” with N. Korea and Iran as with Syria; nowhere near actually bargaining. Kurdistan will have to clearly be impossible and the Americans on the verge of being forced out before there is anything like serious bargaining. If Putin, Xi, and Assad refuse to take the first, pathetic excuses for offers and instead recognize that they never would be getting serious negotiations if these folks had any cards whatsoever left to play, they will be able to watch the collapse of the West.

  282. @sharethedebate

    After living in US for 4 years realise the American War of Independence is not a simple case of US v UK. It was more like a first civil war with British and American fighting British and American supporters.

    True, and I would bet, sadly, that not one American born person out of a million would understand that simple concept, and of those that do, only a handful would have brains enough to agree.

    The American Revolution was as much a “civil” war as was the War Between the States, and all it did was trade one ruling group for another. Furthermore, it was co-opted shortly after birth when the unprincipled power hungry money grubbers succeeded in ramming the cornstitution down the throats of the rest of us.

    For those who disagree, there’s a reason that Patrick Henry refused to attend the constitutional convention in Philly, saying “I smell a rat.” He was right about the rats and they’re the reason Luther Martin and Robert Yates after trying mightily to defend state and individual rights, threw up their hands in frustration and left the convention early.

    That slavery was the worst that could ensue, and we considered the system proposed to be the most complete, most abject system of slavery that the wit of man ever devised, under the pretence of forming a government for free States.

    -Luther Martin, (Delegate) “Secret proceedings and debates of the convention assembled at Philadelphia, in the year 1787″ P25

    https://archive.org/stream/secretproceedin00convgoog/secretproceedin00convgoog_djvu.txt

    He was correct in his estimation, and we are now witnessing, first hand, the results of the flawed system imposed on us. Among its evils is the relative ease with which it has been infiltrated and subverted by some of the worst amongst us. Yet the masses of drooling fools continue to support it.

    Note to the sneering ones: Yes, the cornstitution was a conspiracy. Deal with it.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  283. dervis says:

    We Americans are the most uneducated, stupid, ignorant, people in the civilized world—what next level is she talking about? The Israeli Jews, and their rich supporters in Hollywood, already have every white man, women, and child in the U.S. their “white monkey slaves”….So what level is left? Chains and whips?….Ironically, it doesn’t matter which political party wins, they all serve the Jews.

    Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache, stated that she was not worried about negative ramifications the Israeli onslaught on Gaza might have on the way the Obama administration would view Israel.

    She said ‘You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel.”

  284. @Randal

    I would note that antiwar.com is particularly prone to politically correct censorship. They have not run either of my two articles, presumably because they are offended by the content and language employed. They don’t seem to get it that unless we directly confront the true purveyors of war in the Middle East, which is a tight group of Jewish pundits and organizations working in collusion with the Israeli government, we will never have “no war.”

  285. iffen says:

    America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars

    America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars

  286. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @wayfarer

    My God… I had no idea that was yet another Jewish terrorist attack. Thank you for the heads up.

  287. The Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction is weak and it is getting weaker. The Neo-Conservatives are extremely vulnerable on the immigration issue and the question of United States national identity. The Ne0-Conservatives are also weak when it comes to the Jewish Question in regards to European intellectual history. That must be explained to voters.

    It is obvious that wealthy Jew donors and powerful Jew-controlled lobbying groups wield a disproportionate amount of influence when it comes to the formation of foreign policy for the American Empire. We saw how the treasonous baby boomer George W Bush was strongly influenced by the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction within the Republican Party. Wise men of White Core America should have expressly barred the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservatives from infiltrating the Republican Party in the 1960s and 1970s. Reagan is the one who foolishly opened the floodgates and allowed the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction to worm their way into policy making in the United States.

    George W Bush and the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction are completely and totally responsible for the Iraq War debacle. Candidate Trump destroyed that nasty WASP turd Jebby Bush on the Iraq War issue, that was something to see. Wealthy Billionaire Jews such as Paul Singer and Shelly Adelson may have bought the Iraq War by buying George W Bush. If that is the case, George W Bush is guilty of treason.

    Wealthy Jew billionaires and the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction can be neutralized by utilizing the immigration issue. Indeed, immigration is the issue that won the Republican Party presidential primary and the presidency itself for Trump. Neo-Conservative stooge boy Cotton in the US Senate is attempting to forestall the use of the immigration issue as a weapon to dislodge the Neo-Conservatives from power. I don’t trust US Senator Cotton one damn bit. He is too much of a whore for the Neo-Conservatives.

  288. @Philip Giraldi

    They also featured at the same time a piece by an Israeli who was a “fellow” at WINEP, an AIPAC affiliate. Neither would ever have seen the light of day when Scott McConnell and Kara Hopkins were editors!

    Agree. I observed the decline of TAC (at which I commented not for once) precisely through Dreher and his tedious writing (through Larison, who doesn’t publish my comments anymore, too). I became aware of Dreher’s despicable act only through Tom Piatak’s piece in August in The Chronicles Magazine and that was enough for me not to even read the original, albeit I may, at some point, force myself to read it. I disagree with Pat on many issues, but there is no denial of him being an honorable man and one of few voices of reason in what is known as increasingly dysfunctional (mad) field of American journalism.

  289. iffen says:
    @Fran Macadam

    The surest way to defeat an antiwar policy is to yoke it to opinions that will discredit that.

    I have wondered about this with regard to Giraldi.

    You seem to know a little about TAC. I seldom read there, but I did take a few looks recently and tried searching to see if they acknowledged giving Giraldi the pink slip. In my mind it addresses their integrity and credibility if they do not acknowledge the incident.

  290. Hibernian says:
    @Chris Chuba

    I have had my objections to Scott McConnell’s Israel bashing uniformly censored. His articles were more like some of the comments here than Mr. Giraldi’s articles, except he used “:gentlemanly” language.

  291. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    purveyors of war in the Middle East

    Um, hello, please check the last two millennia. That aside, there are free books available from Internet Archive that might be of interest.

    The Kingship of Christ and The Conversion of the Jewish Nation by Fr. Denis Fahey, C.S.Sp. (Regina Publications, Dublin), p. 60:

    When the Jews become citizens of the non-Jewish States, they still retain their primary allegiance to their own nation, which, according to them, is the chosen vehicle of divine order for the other nations… Their advance to positions of power and influence, aided by their control of finance, has been utilized everywhere in the once Catholic States to eliminate from public life the influence, of the supernatural life and the remains of the Catholic organization of society.

    https://archive.org/details/FaheyDenisTheKingshipOfChrist_201603

    And so does Christian morality and things like ‘just war’.

    The Cause of World Unrest G. P. Putnam’s Sons (1920), p. x:

    …a critic of a prominent individual Jew or of a particular Jewish policy, who begins with no sort of prejudice against Jewry, finds arrayed against him the serried and unitedranks of Jewry. It is no use his declaring that his objections are not to Jewry, but to a particular Jew or a particular Jewish policy. He is dubbed an anti-Semite, with a consequence that he has to accept the epithet and, in some cases, on the principle of the dog with the bad name, promptly proceeds to justify it…

    https://archive.org/details/GwynneHowellArthurTheCauseOfWorldUnrest

    Hmm, sounds familiar.

    Isabella of Spain by William Thomas Walsh (London: Sheed and Ward, 1935). Pp. 258-259:

    Nevertheless by the beginning of the eighth century they were numerous in all the chief cities, enjoyed power and wealth, and even obtained through bribery certain privileges denied to Christians. That they played an important part in bringing the Saracens from Africa in 709 is certain. In the invading army there were many African Jews. Everywhere the Spanish Jews opened the gates of cities to the conquerors, and the Moslems rewarded them by turning over to them the government of Granada, Seville and Cordoba. “Without any love for the soil where they lived, without any of those affections that ennoble a people, and finally without sentiments of generosity,” says Amador de los Rios,1 “they aspired only to’ feed their avarice and to accomplish the ruin of the Goths; taking the opportunity to manifest their rancour, and boasting of the hatreds that they had hoarded up so many centuries.” This is a severe indictment, and it would be most unfair to place all the blame for the Mussulman invasion at the door of the Jews. Neither their intrigues nor the Moorish arms could have prevailed, perhaps, if the Christian Visigoth monarchy had not fallen first into heresy and then into decadence. King Witiza led an unsavoury life, published an edict permitting priests to marry, and so far flouted the Christian beließ of his subjects that he denied the authority of the Pope. His successor, Roderigo, violated the daughter of Count Julian, who thereupon crossed into Africa and joined the Jews in prevailing upon the Moors to conquer Spain. The sons of Witiza, persecuted by Roderigo, also joined the enemy. And at the critical moment of the battle of Jerez de la Frontera, Bishop Oppas, who had a grudge against Roderigo, went over to the Saracens and gave them the victory.

    In the new Moslem state the Jews found themselves highly esteemed. It was under the caliphs that they attained the height of their prosperity. They studied and taught in the Arab universities, excelling particularly in astrology and medicine…

    https://archive.org/details/IsabellaOfSpainWalsh1925_201605

  292. Rurik says:
    @iffen

    Rurik:

    we should keep duel citizenship holders a thousand miles away from the levers of power in this country.

    These steps are nothing less than obviously prudent, but the problem is, as soon as you mention them, ten Jews will screech from out of the woodwork that such a suggestion is anti-Semitic!!!!

    iffen:

    I’m gonna stay with hate.

    paster of propaganda, pellet dropper, rubber boot ethusiast, etc.

    there you have it!

    suggest that duel citizens, Israeli passport holders might not always have the interests of the US first and foremost, and you’re a de facto Himmler, wanting to push Ann Frank into an oven.

    You make my own point for me Jew

    any valid, cogent criticism of Jewish intrigue vis-a-vis the wars in the Middle East, or Gaza, or serial neocon treachery…

    and voila! You’re a Nazi gas chamber operator!

    doesn’t leave much wiggle room when dealing with Jews like you, eh iffen?

    but one thing I will say, is you’re predictable, if tiresome and banal

  293. Rurik says:
    @Anon-og

    Thanks OG,

    I think I was just stating the obvious

    Peace

  294. Rurik says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    Well, I do hate Ayn Rand. Her whole concept of the destroyer seems very Jewish. Everything about her screams Jewish totalitarian. Her contempt for the common man was easily a hatred for average whites at the time she was writing her major works. I don’t understand the loyalty and fascination that many on the right hold for her.

    I remember a certain demographic of young (mostly) men who went around with The Fountainhead with frayed pages and highlights like it was some kind of bible.

    Personally I was always annoyed by her hypocrisy- as a trail-blazing philosopher for Individualism, and Objectivism, (I’ve read every word she’s written) who hated collectivism of every kind, but then sunk down on her knees at the mention of Israel, and the racist collectivist mentality she always excoriated. I remember thinking ‘hmm, well isn’t that special’ ;)

    But there is no doubt she was an extraordinary thinker, with a passionate hatred for communism, and the collectivist mindset she suffered under in Soviet Russia.

    many of her quotes are as true today as when she wrote them, especially on sound money

    “Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked: ‘Account Overdrawn.’”

    ~ Ayn Rand

    Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to men’s stupidity, but your talent to their reason.

    ~Ayn Rand

    just consider that last one in the context of Mr. G’s article here, and the editor of TAC’s reaction to it

    Mr. G is offering his talent to our reason, whereas Mr. Merry is offering his weakness to men’s stupidity

    No doubt Mr. Merry is being rewarded for that, but Ayn Rand has a quote for that too!

    This one is personally provided here by Rurik to TAC Editor Robert W. Merry

    “Money is your means of survival. The verdict you pronounce upon the source of your livelihood is the verdict you pronounce upon your life. If the source is corrupt, you have damned your own existence. Did you get your money by fraud? By pandering to men’s vices or men’s stupidity? By catering to fools, in the hope of getting more than your ability deserves? By lowering your standards? By doing work you despise for purchasers you scorn? If so, then your money will not give you a moment’s or a penny’s worth of joy. Then all the things you buy will become, not a tribute to you, but a reproach; not an achievement, but a reminder of shame. .”

    ~ Ayn Rand

  295. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Heartily agree, Jake. That’s one reason why I don’t read Dreher or visit TAC as often as unz.com, VDare, or Lew Rockwell these days.

    If TAC has now cut ties with Sailer on top of letting a suicidally-naive oddity like Dreher effectively be their most prominent public face, I’ll stop going to TAC entirely….

    I just checked into TAC and Dreher for the first time in years. I want to vomit. The pseudo-intellectual creepster beta in Harry Potter glasses is in Paris on a lecture tour related to his new book. Sadly it’s faithful French Catholics who are giving this anti-Catholic a forum. I’m sure they have no idea what a disreputable POS he is.

  296. Sam Shama says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Fran’s measure of the first piece is correct. Please don’t mind a Jew saying so.

    You write here: “I never suggested that there be religious or ethnic tests, you have essentially inferred that without evidence.”

    What precisely does “due to their ethnicity” mean? Does it mean “not due to their ethnicity”?

    From the original article:

    [...] a couple of simple fixes for the dominant involvement of American Jews in foreign policy issues where they have a personal interest due to their ethnicity or family ties. First of all, don’t put them into national security positions involving the Middle East, where they will potentially be conflicted

    Of course, the best is saved for the end:

    For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril.”

    By definition, those who lack “a shred of integrity” will scarcely consider owning up to it, let alone recuse themselves, leaving us with the natural conundrum as to whom one is supposed to look to for guidance on spotting the integrity-compromised. Are they going to shimmer into view as self-appointed angels?

    I don’t agree with TAC’s decision to sack you, leaving you as the victim, which per modern trends ought to place you in the perfect spot to carry on the agitation :-)

    • Replies: @Rurik
  297. Svigor says:

    Come on Giraldi, be a good little goy toy. No one’s asking you to recant completely, but just cuck a little. You can do that can’t you? Just ask your “friend” (tee hee hee) Fran Macadam here how easy it is. He cucked a little to “clarify” his main point, and look at him today, he’s virtually a household name! Even Rod Dreher permits him to comment nowadays – and what could be better than that?

    This. Cat ladies don’t get that muscular Nationalism has inherent masculine appeal.

    The sort of people to whom cucking appeals aren’t our target audience.

    May I quibble? The “not all Jews” argument does not hold water. It is true that some Jews are at the forefront of criticism of Israel. But their numbers are very very small. And their criticism is mostly limited. When they lead the criticism, it is muted about the real physical suffering of the Palestinians.

    The major reason that “not all Jews” is invalid – is that most Jews are silent – they will not criticize another Jew. It is their responsibility to police their tribe. That is what good people do. They act with courage to limit the worst of their tribe.

    Until a large segment of America’s Jews publicly take on Zionism – all Jews are implicated in what evil is unfolding.

    Think Peace — Art

    Good comment, Art.

    Jew baiters and Jew haters, have nothing of any value to contribute to understanding, blinded as they are by their obsessions. In fact if the neocons have come from the dark side, they surely share the same malignant inspiration.

    Zzzzzzzzzz….

    Go feed your cats, lady.

    If you found your comments rejected at the American Conservative, they must have been insultingly egregious. Their automatic blocking software trashcans any that brandish the epithet “cuckservative.”

    Zzzzzzzzz….

    *Meow* *Meow*

  298. Svigor says:

    Haha glad ya got fired. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

    You should’ve been fired from TAC years ago, right when Pat Buchanan and Taki left the magazine. You sort of fit in back when they were publishing writers like Phillip Weiss, but not anymore, not for a long time. You’re not only an anti-Semite, you’re also, unlike Weiss, a crank.

    It’s a good thing to have Israel-critical opinion at TAC. Daniel Larison is critical of Israel, and he’s one of the best foreign policy writers around. But he’s a smart, sober thinker. You ain’t.

    Anyway, best of luck! (Haha)

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for Fran the cat lady to condemn this comment.

  299. @Johnny F. Ive

    I also don’t care about the AltRight which is a bunch of whites like Richard Spencer who want a white Israel and join the stupid identity politics of Al Sharpton even though they have ever right to do so. When people reduce themselves to colors its a sign they have no true heritage. Catalans are a people with a heritage. White is a color.

    I don’t get this. I never see a Democrat denouncing Black Lives Matter/Al Sharpton types for their “black identity politics” even if it’s not their thing because they realize (1) 90% of blacks vote for Democrats, and (2) publicly criticizing people who enable their political agenda is counterproductive. White “conservatives” denouncing “white identity politics” is just blatant virtue signaling. Please keep it to yourself.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
    , @Johnny F. Ive
  300. Pandos says:

    The holocaust is in the ME and Jews caused it.

  301. @Philip Giraldi

    I’ve been banned from the Antiwar comment section more than once for explicitly mentioning Jewish influence on foreign policy without masking it with terms like “Zionists,” “Neocons,” “Likudniks,” or the “War Party.”

    As much as the older crowd on our political spectrum hate to admit it, Daily Stormer and Pol have actually opened up a space for a rational discussion of Jewish influence on politics. When you have anonymous accounts literally calling for all Jews to be gassed, a couple pundits talking soberly about Jewish influence seem fairly moderate by comparison.

    And the readers of DS and Pol are definitely the younger generation who will make up the majority of the Right in the future. I envision a day in the near future when the mention of Israel elicits boos at the Republican National Convention.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Anon
    , @anarchyst
    , @Randal
    , @druid
  302. iffen says:
    @Clay Bishop

    I envision a day in the near future when the mention of Israel elicits boos at the Republican National Convention.

    You are going to need a heavy duty umbrella to avoid the pig shit.

  303. Jake says:
    @Art

    That is as silly as hoping that if we embrace Mohammedans and so end the Islamic problem that we will no longer have a Jewish problem.

    You cannot solve either of the 2 Semitic culture problems by romanticizing or advancing the other.

    So what did ‘we’ (meaning the secular Modern democracies) do wrong in the Middle East originally that has led to this series of worsening horrors? The question answers itself. The West entered the Modern West entered the Middle East as secularist, as post-Christendom. And it did so with strong pro-Semitic attitudes common among its Elites. That is mist true of England, but France was also guilty. Each nation featured huge numbers of its Elites who harbored deep contempt historic Christianity while dearly loving to promote either Jews or Moslems.

    No culture formed out of the Reformation can do large scale, much less lasting, good in the Middle East – that goes more than double for a culture based on a Judaizing heresy: WASP. No culture shaped by Modernist revolution can do large scale, much less lasting, good in the Middle East.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  304. Rurik says: • Website
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Chuck,

    Happy Feast Day of St. Francis of Assisi !

    the patron saint of animals and the environment

    in honor and homage to St. Francis, I’ve reposted a favorite video of mine as my ‘website’

    Peace / Selah

    • Replies: @Anon-og
    , @ChuckOrloski
  305. Jake says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    You are correct that we need much, much more direct speech naming Jews and the Jewish reasons they do what they do

    However, Arab leaders are equally bad. They to profit from the endless carnage and work to keep it going, in ways they think they can control – just like the Jews who play the game.

    Nor can any sense be made of it all without understanding what the British Empire did in the Middle East and what the WASP Elites of the world today get out of it.

    The nation of Israel was going to be founded because that is what a large number of WASP Elites wanted. The House of Saud was gong to be made the richest, most powerful in the Middle East because that is what a large number of WASP Elites wanted.

    Saddam Hussein was not removed from power only because Israel wanted that. The Saudis and most WASP Elites also wanted Saddam Hussein killed. ‘WE are trying to destroy the Assad family and Syria because of Israel only. The Saudis want it done, and so do most WASP Elirtes. The world’ is not preparing to wage war on Iran just because Likud wants that. The Saudis and most WASP Elites also want Iran destroyed.

    None of these horros could have come to fruition wirthout WASP culure.

  306. @Rurik

    Here is an interview with Ayn Rand defending Israel and contemptuous and despising of Arabs in a sweeping genralization:

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Rurik
  307. I have followed you so long in so many publications, not able to identify. many downloaded so I can send email to others. You alluded to Syrian insurrection in 2006. please give Stephen Sneigoski for his “Transparent Cabal” meat on which you argue. I saw you at the National Press in D.C. a year ago. You ran away. I understand why. Who wants to confront crazies. You are a hero. You are an American. Thank you for your honesty. Thank you for those who have preceded you. MAY AMERICA PREVAIL.

    • Replies: @utu
  308. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    This is a great comment and I agree with every word.

    Yet my overall sentiment Jacques is driven by one simple reason and it stems from hardwired human behaviour which few, if not none can overcome.

    After that family squabble called the war between the states got resolved, we find ourselves where we are today; citizens of the U.S., in for a penny in for a pound. We can and should decry those policies we consider wrong and resolve to steer the ship in the direction we consider right, but my distinct impression has been that were we to extend the sample at UR to define the population in general we would surely arrive at a place of internecine ethnic strife and little else.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @jacques sheete
  309. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Phil – Once I read this article – I immediately deleted the TAC bookmarks from all of my mobile devices and desktop browsers. I can imagine that many others did the same thing (I would hope, anyway.)

    Thank you for your continued commitment to our country and to the truth. It takes a lot of courage to stand up to the Zionists that are ruining our country and the world.

    • Agree: chris
  310. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Clay Bishop

    I was also banned from antiwar.com for the same “transgressions”.. The last time I was banned, I banned the website and have never since donated nor even read any of their articles.

    It is ironic – “Jews” are the only ethnicity where their actual name can be construed as a word of derogation..

    • Replies: @Clay Bishop
  311. DaveE says:
    @silviosilver

    Hate is a perfectly normal human emotion. It’s often caused by people who are trying to kill you, enslave you, take money that is rightfully yours (the goy, eh “guy” who did the work) or simply by people who say, “Don’t blame me for being better than you. G_d made me that way. It’s not MY fault that I’m Chosen and you’re not.”

    I’ll leave 9/11, the Bolshevik takeover, blaming Hitler for their own crimes, the Mideast wars, etc. etc. out of it.

  312. utu says:
    @silviosilver

    there are times when Jewish antics really seem to get up his nose and his tune changes, but it never lasts.

    Correct. It never lasts. He as others among the HBD crowd gets exasperated by the fact that Jews despite of being elevated and idolized by the HBD doctrine refuse to join them to gang up on the common enemy, i.e., groups with lower IQ. Jews at best may send a thank you note to Mr. Sailer for telling the whole world that they are the smartest and continue their strategy of divide et impera that optimizes their group interests. And Mr. Sailer is left with his pathetic imploring Jews to join him and other deplorables. Naivety, delusion?

  313. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    recuse themselves, leaving us with the natural conundrum as to whom one is supposed to look to for guidance on spotting the integrity-compromised.

    how about we simply recognize that duel nationals with foreign passports be prevented from any levers of state power?

    I don’t care if they’re Canadian citizens, if they hold a foreign passport, they shouldn’t be working in the State Dept. Duh.

    and certainly not anywhere near the Defense Dept. or Pentagon, no?

    isn’t that just common sense?!

    if you want to go further, then perhaps former AIPAC agents like Wolf Blitzer should be encouraged to disclose their passionate attachments to foreign regimes if they’re going to masquerade as objective journalists, while they shill lies for serial wars for Israel, no? Yes?

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  314. utu says:
    @john c. hughes

    Wasn’t it Stephen Sniegoski who preceded Buchanan’s 2003 article in TAC though he was not acknowledged?

  315. utu says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Her books created greater devastation in young Americans minds and psyche than any utterances she made about Israel or anything else. If she was the product of CIA or NKVD she would be one of the most successful psyops they ever conducted or dreamed of.

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
  316. @Anon

    It is ironic – “Jews” are the only ethnicity where their actual name can be construed as a word of derogation.

    Reminds me of this quote by …. Valerie Plame???

    This quote from Valerie Plame's 2007 testimony before congress takes on a whole new meaning after yesterday. HT @HarmlessYardDog pic.twitter.com/TZq0lBttUU— Clayton Bishop (@claytonbishop14) September 22, 2017

  317. anarchyst says:
    @Clay Bishop

    One can call a “jew” a scoundrel, shyster, money-grubber, or any other derogatory term and it will roll off his back like water on a duck, BUT call a “jew” a “jew” and he will recoil in horror, having been “found out” or “unmasked”.

  318. Flavius says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Curious that with the Presidential election of 2008, arguably the worst foreign policy disaster in the history of the United States, the consequences of which are enduring to this day, was relegated to the rear view mirror. ‘Let bygones be bygones,’ no interest in fixing responsibility for the train wreck whatsoever. Those who were for it, those who were for it before they were against it, inside government, outside government, punditry, NYT, WSJ, LAT, WP, all to a man, unblemished, retain their seats at the table. Incuriousity prevailed; and with a couple of notable exceptions, American Conservative fell right in with the new leitmotif. Now Phil Girardi loses his job for refusing to let go in trying to uncover the roots of an historic blunder… because some snowflake can’t take the heat generated by a mere accusation that did exactly what it was intended to do: change the subject from the more important to the less important and divert the posse.
    No, the AC has been living off past laurels since 2008, limping along on the sentimental mush, mostly warmed over mush at that, served up by the likes of Dreher, and hoping that enough people wouldn’t notice. Well now they’ve gone and made a move that has left them thoroughly exposed for what they are – part of the cover up. Thank you, Phil, for that.

  319. Rurik says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Ayn Rand defending Israel

    yep, and for all her talk about sound money, she was also a good friend of, it not romantically involved with Alan Greenspan, of all people!

    Hypocrisy most foul

    but as with most flawed people, I take the good and leave the bad

    I’ve never been much of a cult of personality type of fan

    Ron Paul is the closest I’ve ever come to it, and even that is dependent upon Paul’s continued iron integrity

    which brings us back to the article at hand, and its author

    and the sniveling worms like Robert W. Merry, who, like Ayn Rand in the video, know which side of the bread has the butter

    both Ayn Rand and Robert Merry present themselves [heh] as Americans with conservative cred, but then slurp the slop-shekels out of the zio-trough with squeals of suidae enthusiasm

  320. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    That is as silly as hoping that if we embrace Mohammedans and so end the Islamic problem that we will no longer have a Jewish problem.

    Jews are behind the Islamicization of Europe today just like they were in the Middle Ages. Only difference is the host is a lot weaker after centuries, millennia, of constant attacks. It is all about the hatred of Jesus Christ and the Cross. I think we all know why they don’t want to be reminded of Him.

    “Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years we were in exile…. And now, Europe is losing its identity in favour of another people and another religion…. Even if we are in a major war with the region’s Arabs over the Land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a gentile culture than Christianity.” —West Bank Rabbi Baruch Efrati, 2012

    Rabbi Baruch Efrati, in an astonishing admission in the Jewish press, said that the “Islamization of Europe a good thing” and that “Islam a relatively honest religion”:

    “We will never forgive Europe’s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly… Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity… now, Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won’t be able to atone for.”

    “The Messiah will come when Edom, Europe, Christianity has totally fallen. So I ask you: Is the good news that Muslims are coming to Europe? It’s excellent news! It means the coming of the Messiah! Excellent news!” – Rabbi Rav Touitou

    https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2016/09/03/jews-abandon-islamophobia-embrace-islam-as-proxy-against-christ-again/

    “Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. We are going to be part of the throes of the transformation which must take place. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role.” - Barbara Lerner Spectre, Paideia, Sweden.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

    • Replies: @utu
  321. anon-og says:
    @geokat62

    If Fran is an evangelical then she has probably already come a long way. She has made quite a transition here reading and commenting on Giraldi articles. It takes time but it looks like perhaps her eyes are opening.

  322. Randal says:
    @Clay Bishop

    As much as the older crowd on our political spectrum hate to admit it, Daily Stormer and Pol have actually opened up a space for a rational discussion of Jewish influence on politics. When you have anonymous accounts literally calling for all Jews to be gassed, a couple pundits talking soberly about Jewish influence seem fairly moderate by comparison.

    This is of course exactly how banning opinions distorts debate and why identity lobbyists love to impose such taboos on discourse.

    Once the extreme positions on an issue are rendered taboo and excluded, the next position in (which the lobbyists could not easily succeed in banning as “extreme” initially) becomes the apparent “extreme” and as a bonus its advocates can be accused of being closet supporters of the banned extreme. They then have to spend all their time and energy defending themselves against being harassed and trying to word their arguments carefully so they can’t be accused of falling foul of the taboo (or as with some of the accusations against Giraldi’s piece here – of not trying hard enough to avoid the supposed appearance of falling foul of it).

    That’s how proposals to limit mass immigration are labelled “race hatred” and banned in many forums, and how reasonable raising of an important issue such as in Giraldi’s piece gets one smeared as an “antisemite” (or potentially prosecuted in the UK) and excluded from mainstream publications.

    • Agree: reiner Tor, Kiza
    • Replies: @utu
    , @iffen
    , @Rurik
  323. @Philip Giraldi

    I really don’t believe they are the only ones. There are others very interested in fomenting war, who aren’t Jewish. The war alliance in this instance is one of convenience, where the various proponents of war pursue their own ends. While Likud influence is pervasive, due to the influence of wealth interests on their behalf, there are also others for whom war is an incredible source of profit, as per Gen. Butler’s timeless War Is A Racket, and the religion of all of them is money and power, with their ethnicity, not Jewish, irrelevant to that. I haven’t seen Dick Cheney wearing a yarmulke. His ilk have their own reasons, which don’t have any coincidence with the tenets of either Christianity or Judaism.

    If Hitler’s adherents had succeeded in his so-called Final Solution of genocide of Jews and the many others his followers intended to do in as well as a secondary priority – guess what? There would still be war and imperialism, massacres, genocides, bloodbaths and tortures.

    War is most often begun by those making the decisions above the people, to take what belongs to someone else. Propaganda techniques manufacture public opinion to the extent necessary for at least minimal support.

    Jewish people aren’t any different from others in terms of the character found among them from anyone else.

    I have been subjected to prejudice from some Jewish people, and also been befriended by others. That’s the experience I’ve had across the board with humanity, and it’s even included the same run of experience among folks from Iran, including Zoroastrians.

    To believe anything else, is to be as delusional as that high non Jewish official, James Clapper, who posited that the Russians are genetically programmed to be our eternal enemies. It’s more likely that the sin nature Jim Clapper shares with the rest of us has been genetically inherited to look for enemies to destroy and create them where they didn’t exist before, absent the corrective of God’s Holy Spirit.

    Blessed are the peacemakers. Peace is not going to be served by going metaphorically to war with “the Jews,” seeing them as intrinsically any more a nefarious force than the face of humanity that stares back from the mirror.

    There is such a thing as being right, but for all the wrong reasons. That leads to actions taken that produce unintended baleful consequences.

    • Replies: @utu
  324. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    This is a great comment and I agree with every word.

    Really? Literally every word?

    I understand that we are like a card game at a poker table where everyone is playing a different game and the dealer deals the card that he thinks appropriate for that player’s game, but you’ve been posting stuff that I don’t even come close to understanding why you would make the post, e.g., the two linked NYT pieces.

    were we to extend the sample at UR to define the population in general we would surely arrive at a place of internecine ethnic strife and little else.

    Isn’t it self-evident that if the majority of the population were neo-Nazis things would be different?

    There’s nothing stopping the neo-Nazi missionaries from the UR sample extending their reach except themselves and the overwhelming rejection of their message by the populace. Are you are saying that you fear that if the total population tuned in to UR then the % of neo-Nazis in the total population would rise to equal the % of neo-Nazis here?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  325. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I wouldn’t say Dreher’s anti-Trumpism is necessarily cucky.

    He takes his Christianity seriously and found Trump to be a loud phony.

    Also, whereas Trump cucked on ‘gay’ issues, Dreher hasn’t.

    No sure Trump has really said or done anything regarding gay marriage. We know he said no transgenders in the U.S. military and has taken a solid pro-life and realist foreign policy approach.

    Also not sure I really care what some redneck tard from the South- with a journalism degree from a mediocre state school in the South who has done nothing in his life besides writing articles- has to say about an Ivy League-educated Manhattan multi-billionaire with close to a half-century of doing big things, including a #1 NYT bestseller, #1 prime-time TV show, and, according to NY Post, saving New York City.

    • Agree: Clay Bishop
  326. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    You omitted the first sentence of Barbara Specter statement:

    I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

    It is all about anti-Semitism. It is all about Jews and their interests.

  327. iffen says:

    Robert W. Merry has a piece at TAC in which he castigates David Brooks for using language intended to:

    cast out of the circle of respectable debate those with whom he disagrees.

    • LOL: Rurik
  328. utu says:
    @Fran Macadam

    There would still be war and imperialism, massacres, genocides, bloodbaths and tortures.

    Correct, but not for Israel. The opponents of “imperialism, massacres, genocides, bloodbaths and tortures”would not be bombarded with the accusation of anti-Semitism and thus their opposition would be more effective than it is now and even you could join the opposition without a fear of hurting feelings of some imaginary Jews.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @RobinG
  329. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The psychological need to excoriate Jews is deeply embedded in European culture: https://t.co/pCdlk9l6Jh
    — Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) May 2, 2016
    Now lets look at him and not the entire race

    1 Goldberg emigrated to Israel and served in its armed forces as a corporal, brilliant is his Iraq war resume, giving America grounds for invasion with bad reports on Saddam’s connections to Al Qaeda and his manufacture of chemical weapons.
    2 Goldberg has appeared at numerous Zionist events, for instance the American Jewish Committee conference, and Zionism 3.0, where he was introduced by Charlotte Halle, English edition editor at Haaretz, as “for many, the preeminent voice among American Jews.”
    3 The Diaspora was the disease, and Israel was the cure,” he wrote in his book. He felt that a red river of anti-semitism flowed just under the surface of American life, and even after he decided to come back stated that America was “unhealthy for Jews and Judaism.” And “I love Israel, with all its flaws. I’m deeply committed to its safety and its future”
    3a Goldberg leads the charge on latest BDS smear: Presbyterian Church divestment is anti-Semitic because David Duke supports it
    3b Jeffrey Goldberg assails NYT’s David Kirkpatrick for describing Israeli attitude as ‘ugly’

    4a ROBERT SIEGEL: So this man might personify a link conceivably between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
    Mr. GOLDBERG: He is one of several men who might personify a link between Iraq and al-Qaeda.

    4 In response to a Haaretz photo essay capturing Jewish Iranians casting ballots at the Yusef Abad synagogue in Tehran, Goldberg tweeted:
    Totally spontaneous scenes from a Tehran petting zoo: https://t.co/hvCXMm30vn
    — Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) February 28, 2016
    5 The Point of No Return” by Goldberg:
    What is more likely [than a US attack on Iran] is that one day next spring, the Israeli national-security adviser, Uzi Arad, and the Israeli defense minister, Ehud Barak, will simultaneously telephone their counterparts at the White House and the Pentagon, to inform them that their prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has just ordered roughly one hundred F-15Es, F-16Is, F-16Cs, and other aircraft of the Israeli air force to fly east toward Iran—possibly by crossing Saudi Arabia, possibly by threading the border between Syria and Turkey, and possibly by traveling directly through Iraq’s airspace, though it is crowded with American aircraft. (It’s so crowded, in fact, that the United States Central Command, whose area of responsibility is the greater Middle East, has already asked the Pentagon what to do should Israeli aircraft invade its airspace. According to multiple sources, the answer came back: do not shoot them down.)
    In these conversations, which will be fraught, the Israelis will tell their American counterparts that they are taking this drastic step because a nuclear Iran poses the gravest threat since Hitler to the physical survival of the Jewish people. The Israelis will also state that they believe they have a reasonable chance of delaying the Iranian nuclear program for at least three to five years. They will tell their American colleagues that Israel was left with no choice. They will not be asking for permission, because it will be too late to ask for permission.

    Source Mondoweiss
    ————

    He remains editor of The Atlantic

    • Replies: @anon
  330. Anon-og says:
    @Wally

    And why do so many people want ’6M Jews & 5M others’ to be dead? Revisionists don’t.
    Revisionists bring good news, Jews should be elated.

    This is so dead on and true, I never thought about it like this. It also makes me think that they use this 6 million number to minimize other massacres and atrocities because they pale in comparison to what the Jews suffered…therefore a few hundred thousand here or there is not that big of a deal cuz it’s not 6 million.

  331. druid says:
    @Svigor

    Ikeep hearing the population of Jews in the US being under-stated. As I understand, the census doesn’t require Jews to admit their religion, so how do we know the tru number. I may be wrong. If so, please enlighten/correct me.

  332. Anon-og says:
    @Wally

    That’s an excellent book that I just ordered and this is also interesting and stands out to me from it :

    Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill’s The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of Nazi gas chambers is to be found. Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi “gas chambers,” a “genocide” of the Jews, or of “six million” Jewish victims of the war. (Robert Faurisson, “The Detail (the alleged Nazi gas chambers),” The Journal of Historical Review, March-April 1998 (Vol. 17, No. 2), pp. 19-20)

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/978-1-59148-141-6-TellTruthShameDevil-2nd-LowRes.pdf

  333. utu says:
    @Randal

    They then have to spend all their time and energy defending themselves against being harassed and trying to word their arguments carefully so they can’t be accused of falling foul of the taboo

    Creating taboos is the slicing salami tactic. Perhaps the error is in trying to separate yourself from the taboo.

  334. iffen says:
    @Randal

    supposed appearance

    America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  335. Zogby says:

    Philip Gilardi has many Jewish fans. Where else can Jews go to read how powerful and superior they are?

  336. @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Hi Brother Nathanael. Welcome to UNZ! I want to thank you for all your engrossing and eye-opening videos. You have done extraordinary work. You are a one-of-a-kind.

    I wish you great success going forward. You deserve additional support from all peoples who revere honesty and fair play.

    As with Mr. Giraldi, I am extremely grateful for your daring analyses and bold insights. Thank you for your rare courage and tenacity.

  337. druid says:
    @Art

    This “anti-Semitism” BS is way past it’s ell-by date! Doesn’t on me a bit!

  338. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    “Agree with every word” is a device to nod in agreement with the central premise of the writer’s post, without getting distracted by specifics less ad rem.

    Those NYT posts [one left w/o comment] were different devices, chum in the water which got some predictable responses [not from you], yet not quite as frenzied as one might’ve hoped for to sustain a robust comic relief. Alas, I take what I can get.

    Oh, I am not concerned about neo-Nazis here infecting more than a few basis points of the population but do look at Fran’s post #332 and her previous ones to understand what an unschooled reader’s view of Giraldi’s pieces would be. In point of fact, she describes perfectly well what can roughly be compared to the Tower of Babel, which includes not just the neo-Nazism but an entire spectrum of mental maladies.

    • Replies: @iffen
  339. Rurik says:
    @Randal

    Once the extreme positions on an issue are rendered taboo and excluded, the next position in (which the lobbyists could not easily succeed in banning as “extreme” initially) becomes the apparent “extreme” and as a bonus its advocates can be accused of being closet supporters of the banned extreme.

    I’m glad your insightful comment was recognized as such

    Reminds me of how Marine Le Pen’s father was marginalized as an ‘anti-Semite’ (for simply telling the obvious truth), and once he was effectively maligned, (they) set their sights on the moderate daughter, as being “far right”, which simply means not as far left as (they) are.

    today they call the AfD “far right”, in order to marginalize their extremely reasonable and moderate positions – as advocating an invasion of Poland

    and of course, were Mr. G to sob his contrition and re-write the article, (not likely ; ), they’d simply set their sights on the next target, having moved the goal posts and tilted the playing field always more and more in their favor.

  340. Anon-og says:
    @Clay Bishop

    The real issue with the Alt Right is their cuckery to Israel. No issue with all that has been done by Israel to America, its foreign policy or internal politics – no, “It’s ok that you fuck us and have so in the past, all is forgiven because we just want to follow your example, Israel.”

    • Replies: @Rurik
  341. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Commenters commit category mistakes in sloppy discourse.
    Category mistake is a logical fallacy that occurs when a speaker confuses properties of a whole with properties of a part.
    There are many types of Jews not all alike.

  342. druid says:
    @Goyim know

    When not in power, they preach peace/harmony/fair-play, etc. Now that they have power, they show themselves to be nothing but scum! Of course, not all, but the Ziofascists for sure. Most of the others are loath to counter or condemn them. Einstein knew this and warned of a Jewish state!

  343. Anon-og says:
    @Rurik

    This is hitting on a very deep and profound point and in this sense, we are all complicit because the current form of modernity is itself in conflict with other life on this planet….I have heard a lot about St. Francis of Assisi and believe it or not, from a muslim scholar named Seyyed Hossein Nasr who speaks a lot about him and Meister Eckhart.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  344. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    I am fine with disqualifying dual nationals from holding sensitive government posts, even any government post. In the meantime why don’t you duel with the captioned portion of my comment concerning PG’s explicit proposal to exclude Jews on account of their ethnicity?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Anon-og
    , @Rurik
    , @Art
  345. Art says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    It wasn’t broad enough so it looked like American Jews are being targeted specifically. They are clearly the most powerful group but they aren’t the only ones. It gives American Jews encouragement to keep their silly beliefs instead of assimilate if they feel threatened as a whole which we don’t want.

    These are the facts. There is no Jew opposition to bad Jews. Jews are most threatened by other Jews. Little Jews fear Big Jews.

    Clearly – Big Jews are coercing our government and our culture – if a large segment of American Jews do not publicly speak out in opposition – then they will be lumped in with the bad ones.

    That is life! (See WWII)

    Think Peace — Art

  346. Rurik says:
    @Anon-og

    we just want to follow your example, Israel.”

    I disagree here OG

    the alt-right are like the Palestinians, who’re trying to defend and maintain their culture and their land that their ancestors have lived on for hundreds of years from invasion.

    white America, like the Palestinians are being systematically replaced by ‘others’, who’re often hostile to their ways, if not their very genetic identity.

    white Americans have laws passed that make them second class citizens in their own country, just like the Palestinians

    white American men are relentlessly maligned by Hollywood as congenitally evil, just like the Palestinians

    white Americans are demonized as “irredeemable” simply for voting for politicians that talk about them as if they too were honorable and decent people, and like the Palestinians, deserving of maintaining some small shred of the character and ways that are familiar to them

    the most intractable enemies of white America are also the most vocal and intractable enemies of the Palestinians: the Zionist Jews

    please don’t conflate the alt-right with Zionism, as nothing could be farther from the truth, except that they both want a wall — the Zionists to steal the land of others, and the alt-right to protect what’s left of the land they have to peaceably live on.

    Please remember, it is alt-right types like Steve Bannon that are against all the wars in the Middle East. It’s the alt-right types that are the most vocal in denouncing the serial wars for Israel.

    But just as the Palestinians demand a land of their own, and many might want to denigrate them as ‘Palestinian nationalists’.. so too there are many who would denigrate all white folks who don’t want to be ethnically cleansed from N. America and Europe as ‘white nationalists’.

    why don’t we, as Palestinians and white Americans and Germans and Swedes and Brits, also have a right to our own lands and cultures and ways of life?

    the enemies of Palestine are the enemies of Syria and Libya and Iran and Iraq and Germany and France and Sweden and N. America

    if we allow them to divide and conquer us with quarrels over Germany’s (for instance) right to maintain its German character, then they’ve won.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  347. @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Dear Brother Nathanael,

    In a Dirty Harry way (in reverse), you made my day when I saw your posted comment!

    I know that I might rankle some noble & daring web site operators and WRITERS here at The Unz Review, but they should have either (objectively) supported or even critiqued Philip Giraldi by now on this rolling comment thread.

    Post scriptum: Earlier this year, I wrote a satiric-poem (linked below) which inspired The Smirking Chimp editor, Jeff Tiedrych, to ban me from further participation on his web site due to intensifying anti-Semitic submissions.

    https://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2017/02/17/prime-minister-netanyahus-crazy-negevist-bedroom-enterprise.php

    May God bless you, Brother! Your web site provides N.T.-grown “solid” food which ideally more & more people will take time and feast upon. Thank you!

    Selah Alyosha Karamazov.

  348. anarchyst says:
    @Sam Shama

    Since Jews are automatically considered citizens of Israel, they MUST be disqualified from political or national security positions within the U S government and its principalities, states and local governments. We cannot afford to have “dual citizenship” undermine our country’s interests.

  349. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    chum in the water

    You got me again!

    Friends shouldn’t troll friends!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  350. Anon-og says:
    @Sam Shama

    Respectfully speaking, conflation of Israel with Jews is done mostly by who? To the extent that criticism of Israel is now being called anti-Semitism and I can point to laws and bills attempting to be be passed as we speak that conflates the two so is it really so outlandish of a non-jew to propose an idea that maybe an individual’s Jewishness and support for Israel should be considered as a possible bias/issue? Israeli and American Jews have purposefully created this environment as a survival mechanism for Israel by attaching Zionist Israel to all of Judaism. Are you a supporter/commenter of Mondoweiss and other forums where they are trying to fight against this association of all Jews with Israel?

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Sam Shama
  351. Rurik says:
    @Anon-og

    we are all complicit because the current form of modernity is itself in conflict with other life on this planet

    I have two principle motivations in this life

    the second one is not so see the Fiend destroy Western Civilization with wars and debt and turn life on this planet into Orwell’s worst dystopian nightmare

    the first is to help man”kind’ understand the beyond-heinous immortal sin of he is committing by destroying the ecology of this planet and wiping out all the ineffable beauty and wonders of the wild world that we humans are blind to.

    whether it’s out of pure greed, like for instance the US Republicans or the blind hatred like the US Democrats, between the two, we’re wiping out animal species like there’s no tomorrow. Species and wild habitats that the next generation to come will curse us in our graves for destroying – out of infinite blind greed and primitive tribal hatreds.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/20/vanishing-animals-future-generations-will-never-see/

    between the two agendas, the one to save this planet, and the sublime wonders of its myriad life forms, from depraved human indifference, greed and hatred, is by far the most important

  352. Anon-og says:
    @Rurik

    Hey look, I totally get what you’re saying and that’s why I made no argument about the Alt-Right’s gripes, I totally get that. But what bothers me about the Alt Right, Steve Bannon and his Pro-Israel Breitbart slant is that there is so much that the Israelis have done and are currently doing to damage America, everything from spying, stealing secrets, attacking an American ship to coerce war and successfully coercing wars in Iraq and I’d also say the Zionists assassinated JFK especially when you look how ardently he was fighting David Ben-Gurion to keep Israel from going nuclear, I’d say that Israel is the biggest threat to America and has infiltrated it so deep that even an alliance built on Machiavellian tactics is a wrong move. To a certain extent, the Alt-Right is playing on American ignorance just like the Israelis are because if most Americans knew what the Israelis have done, the Alt-Right movement would lose its creditability. How do you restore dignity when you are playing nice with the one who has his sword in your back?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  353. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    PG’s explicit proposal to exclude Jews on account of their ethnicity?

    you’re mischaracterizing his words Sam

    isn’t that what’s known as ‘the smear’?

    But when it comes to Israel, and it’s Wolf Blitzer hectoring us on the need for another war, I know for myself personally I would wonder at his first loyalties

    but I would have no problems with Bernie Sanders on the Senate Armed Services Committee, if that says anything

    in fact if it meant we could send the bloodstain to his overdue reward that much sooner, I’d be all for it today!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  354. @iffen

    I don’t know why, but it seems to fit you perfectly when you bold and quote the title of the article. But conveniently ignores the entire article it self :)

    bravo, israeli, bravo.

    • Replies: @iffen
  355. Rurik says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Brother Nathanael Kapner,

    Let me also join chorus of voices welcoming your participation here and thanking you for all the truth you’ve spoken over the years!

    God bless you and keep you and God speed with your truth-telling!

  356. Anon-og says:

    The chutzpah of these people knows no bounds.

    Upcoming AIPAC Confab Promises To Renew Focus on Israel Anti-Boycott Bill

    AIPAC activists are paying a visit to Washington, D.C., in mid-October, threatening to bring renewed focus on legislation a leading civil liberties group warns will criminalize support for the boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) movement for Palestinian rights.  
    The American Israel Public Affairs Committee lists support of the Israel Anti-Boycott Act as a key issue in its legislative agenda, asking people to urge their members of Congress to co-sponsor the bill. Several thousand leading AIPAC activists will arrive in Washington beginning October 17.
    The American Civil Liberties Union, meanwhile, maintains that the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720) would have a chilling effect on free speech, as it threatens to penalize U.S. individuals and companies solely on expressed political beliefs. The ACLU opposition reversed the momentum of the legislation, as Democratic senators have been wary of winding up on the opposite side of a central player in the resistance to President Donald Trump.
    Democratic Sen. Ben Cardin of Maryland, who introduced the Israel Anti-Boycott Act on March 23, is still working with members to review potential clarifications to the bill, according to his office.
    Cardin promised to amend the measure without changing its core function after the ACLU’s legal interpretation of the bill found that violations “would be subject to a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.”
    The ACLU said they will “carefully evaluate” any amendments to the bill to see whether they address concerns.
    Following the ACLU announcement, Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York withdrew co-sponsorship. She said at a town hall in August that she would not support the bill in its current form and called on the authors to change it.
    “That directly contradicts the First Amendment, which protects voluntary participation in a political boycott,” ACLU attorney Brian Hauss said. “Even if the bill could be interpreted more narrowly, as some of its supporters claim, its broad language and significant penalties would still chill protected expression by scaring people into self-censorship.”
    Cardin continued to defend the bill in a briefing Wednesday, saying the bill does not affect freedom of speech, impose jail sentences, nor penalize individuals for their activities, and the criticisms “are just wrong.”
    “We can clarify certain additions that do not change the function of the bill, but will give people more comfort,” Cardin said.
    Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., a reliable supporter of Israel and a respected voice in the party on foreign policy, said recently that he does not support the bill because of the concerns put forward by the ACLU. “My interpretation of that legislation is that it does things that the sponsors say were not intended,” said Van Hollen. “I don’t think any American, for example, should be threatened with fines or imprisonment for expressing their views in the form of participating in economic actions with respect to Israel. I certainly don’t support that bill, certainly in its current form.”
    The ACLU has said that even with tweaks to the bill that eliminate the criminal penalties, the civil penalties would still lead to an unconstitutional chilling of speech. The bill also does not distinguish between a boycott of products made in occupied territory versus products made in Israel proper, an aspect of the bill Cardin said will not change. JTA reported Cardin insisted on maintaining the provision “to keep outside actors from imposing a final status solution on Israel absent a peace process.”
    There are currently 49 co-sponsors, including 36 Republican senators and 13 Democratic senators.
    When The Intercept first reported on the ACLU’s opposition in July, the bill had the backing of 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/10/02/upcoming-aipac-visit-promises-to-renew-focus-on-israel-anti-boycott-bill/?comments=1#comments

  357. iffen says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    conveniently ignores the entire article

    Point of fact, the entire article tells me that not only was the title not the result of inadvertent wording, but rather it is an accurate encapsulation of same.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  358. Anon-og says:

    Look at what they do?????? Intimidation, bullying etc etc

    Anonymous anti-BDS group publishes ‘blacklist’ of boycott supporters in New York

    Early last week, an unidentified group launched a shadowy website identifying New Yorkers believed to support the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement for Palestinian rights—placing their photos, social media links and email addresses on a “blacklist” located at OutlawBDS.com. The list features ninety-seven individuals divided into the categories Campuses, Public & NPOs and Private Sector Activists.
    Among those who appear on the so-called blacklist are professors, journalists, students, non-profit staff-members and executives.
    Project OutlawBDS claims it was established by a group who “consider themselves to be analytical in their approach to the BDS movement,” whose stated intention is to “provide support for New York State Senate Bill S2492,” the latest attempt to pass anti-BDS legislation in the state.
    Though bill S2492 has already failed to pass the New York State legislature—not to mention a handful of other anti-BDS bills introduced over the past three years—the project apparently anticipates that given time, New York will outlaw support for BDS.
    And though Palestine solidarity activists have stifled each attempt, there is reason to believe New York legislators will continue trying to outlaw the boycott of Israel.
    Anti-BDS sentiment has gained traction among lawmakers nationally and as it stands now, 21 states have anti-BDS laws on the books. The legal stipulations vary somewhat between states, but their common goal is punishment of those who express support for or participate in boycotts against Israel through divestment of state funding and benefits from those individuals.
    Project OutlawBDS wants the same for New York, stating on its “About” page that upon passage of such a law, the entire list of indiviuals compiled by the project “will be immediately delivered to state authorities, to ensure nothing is hidden from those who wish a better hope for this country.”</i>

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/09/anonymous-publishes-supporters/

  359. Anon-og says:

    Interesting ……

    On 7 December 1938, during a meeting of the Mapai Central Committee (precursor of the Labour Party), David Ben-Gurion revealed his true feelings regarding the plight of German Jews: “If I knew it was possible to save all the [Jewish] children in Germany by transporting them to England, but only half of them by transporting them to Palestine, I would choose the second…” He attempted to explain his twisted reasoning by adding that he would make such a choice “…because we face not only the reckoning of those children, but the historical reckoning of the Jewish people.” Ben-Gurion also expressed his fear that “‘the human conscience’ might bring various countries to open their doors to Jewish refugees from Germany. He saw this as a threat and warned: ‘Zionism is in danger!’” (Tom Segev, The Seventh Million, Hill and Wang, New York, 1994, p. 28.)
    During another speech to the Mapai Central Committee on 7 December 1938, Ben-Gurion admitted that “in these terrible days of the beginning of the disaster that threatens European Jewry, I am still more worried about the elections at the [Mapai] branch in Tel Aviv.” (Segev, p. 105.)
    On 27 November 1942, the Yishuv newspaper Davar published an article that referred to the extermination of European Jews as “‘punishment from heaven’ for not having come to Palestine.” (Tom Segev, p. 98). As Ben-Gurion so callously put it on 8 December 1942, during a Mapai meeting: “‘They did not want to listen to us’ ….in their deaths they had sabotaged the Zionist dream.’” (David Ben-Gurion at a gathering of Mapai workers, 8 Dec. 1942; quoted by Tom Segev)

  360. @Rurik

    Great link, Rurik!

    You may know that Saint Francis went on a peace mission to meet a Crusader Sultan?

    Maybe the Crusade war profiteers of the time considered Francis an Anti-Semite.

    Thanks!

  361. @iffen

    please, you and I both know that isn’t true.

    even though I do think it is true personally. all the jews are complicit as they silently enjoys the benefits :) when you don’t even bother to provide lip service against it, you are complicit, 100%

  362. Sam Shama says:
    @utu

    The irony of your statement is that it underlines the tendentious claim of “war-for-Israel” as the sole basis for your objection to war since war profits are agnostic to the geography of battle. It further calls into question the sincerity of some of the opponents of “imperialism etc…” whose constant finger pointing at Jews is merely a ruse to hide from plain sight that which they are rightly accused of, and object to very strenuously. For instance, one might ask you for your views on the wars waged by Imperial Japan? Do they qualify as “bloodbaths….”?

  363. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    In the meantime why don’t you duel with the captioned portion of my comment concerning PG’s explicit proposal to exclude Jews on account of their ethnicity?

    Play it Sam – Sing “Mendacity”

    Oh my – a champion of Israel has the gonads to complain about “exclusion” of clearly fifth column Jews in our government. What mendacity! Israel is the most “exclusive” nation on the planet.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. It should not only be foreign policy – it should be all things money also. The diversion of America’s wealth to Jews is an ongoing deep state government endeavor.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  364. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    [you’re mischaracterizing his words Sam]

    No. Read paragraph 10 of the original article. The rest of your post consists of the usual hysterics, spraying in the hope that something will hit an unrelated target.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  365. Druid says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Sorry but you seem to have buried your head in the sand

  366. RobinG says:
    @utu

    “…. even you could join the opposition ….”

    An interesting comment, since Fran’s standard M.O. is just kvetching that it’s all too late and hopeless, just resigned and waiting for the Rapture….

    • Replies: @iffen
  367. Sam Shama says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    HAhahahahahaha.

    You snivelling liar. Your Shacharit service must’ve been one designed entirely in the recesses of your deeply fucked-up mind.

    Every Shacharit service has three components, none of which is singing the Hatikvah. Shacharit service consists of

    1. Shema, which is the basic acknowledgement of monotheism
    2. Amidah which is overwhelmingly comprised of blessings and asking G’D for his acceptance
    3. Ending with
    Adon Olam or Creator of the Universe

    • Replies: @Art
  368. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    just resigned and waiting for the Rapture….

    It’s Armageddon! Send dollars!

    The Hell you say.

    If it’s the Armageddon, I’m spending my dollars on MREs; use your own damn dollars.

  369. Sam Shama says: • Website
    @Art

    [ it should be all things money also]

    What about the Christian girls ‘Arts’? Remember, you only speak for the philosophical Christians and we have mostly enamoured the Evangelicals as you know…..

    • Replies: @Art
  370. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    Iffen in the midst of this tempest in a teapot we should save little corners for wicked levity here and there, should we not? :-)

    • Replies: @iffen
  371. @Sam Shama

    I know how to deal with pompous Jews like you who think they’re smarter than all the Gentiles posting here.

    But I can spot a ‘maven’ (an arrogant know-it-all Jew) a mile a way.

    You can divvy up the Shacharit service as many times as you want here, mr maven, but that doesn’t change the FACT that we DID sing Hatikvah, the Israeli National Anthem, EVERY Sabbath service.

    You see, whenever a Jew like you gets exposed as a blowhard he resorts to ad-hominems and foul language thrown at his opponent who unmasks his craft.

    By slandering me and spewing foul language at me you only prove me true. Mazel Tov!

    +Brother Nathanael

    PS I’ll be glad to send you a good muzzle for your mouth wholesale…

  372. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    You snivelling liar. Your Shacharit service must’ve been one designed entirely in the recesses of your deeply fucked-up mind.

    Play It Sam – Sing “Guilty”

    Oh my – we can easily see why Jews are unwilling to be honest about other Jews.

    Hmm – the dark underbelly of the Jew is exposed.

    The Jew cycle of doom is self enforced.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. “Adon Olam or Creator of the Universe” — there is no Jew god of the universe. Poor Jews – what a grandiose delusion. God belongs to the universe, not Jews.

    p.s. Maybe it would be good for them to modern up and get real.

  373. @Philip Giraldi

    @Phil Giraldi

    Justin Raimondo is the front-man for antiwar.com, an ‘out’ homosexual, who features from time to time some of the almost-extinct Jewish anti-war journalists.

    My hunch is that antiwar.com is supported by some well-heeled Jews and that’s why he’s afraid of the JEW word. And for that matter, I don’t recall ever seeing the word “Zionist” used unsympathetically on his site.

    As to, “confronting the true purveyors of war in the Middle East, which is a tight group of Jewish pundits and organizations working in collusion with the Israeli government, we will never have no war…I’m not sure what you mean by “tight group.”

    Do you mean that these Jewish pundits and organizations are “buddies” with one another? Is Jeffrey Goldberg good friends with Victoria Nuland? (née Nudelman via grandfather, and wife of Robert Kagan.) Perhaps, perhaps not.

    But what they DO have in common is their inherent love for Israel that translates into “Israel First” agendas.

    It’s all about WHAT’S GOOD FOR THE JEWS, of which mindset I was raised as a Jew with. (I’m now an Orthodox Christian.) That’s all that matters to these people, the goyim and America be dam##d.

    And they’ve got BILLIONS Of Dollars to buy hacks on DC with and to OWN the main stream media with to brain-wash the goys.

    That’s not “tight knit,” that’s “sweeping, unrestricted power.”

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner

  374. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    we have mostly enamoured the Evangelicals as you know…..

    Isn’t it amazing that EVERY Christian preacher on TV is an Israel firster.

    Now that is a two-fer for the Jew media owners – your Big Jews are so clever.

    You Little Jews must be busting with pride.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @edNels
  375. @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Actually Brother Nathaniel I do believe they are a tight group in that they know each other, live in the same part of town in DC, and get together socially. I used to know some of them and the names of their “friends” kept popping up. All Jewish, all neoconnish…

  376. Mulegino1 says:

    Animus against international Jewry and its enablers, brothers in arms and servants among the political and corporate so called “elites” is not morally objectionable or any type of anomaly. It is the age old tried and tested immunological response of a healthy society against the moral and cultural equivalent of the Black Plague or AIDS. We are not talking about Jewish deli owners, dentists, opticians or grocers. We are talking about international usurers, and world class criminals, pimps and agents of cultural corruption who presently use Israel and its powerful lobby not for the purposes of Jewish Nationalism or the perpetuation of a Jewish Homeland but as an unassailable base for their criminal operations.

    History has already arrived at its verdict on the Jewish collective and it is not a favorable one. The territorial Zionists had the right ideas and recognized (correctly) the causes of this so called “antisemitism” as being rooted in collective Jewish behavior, not in some latent or irrational “Jew hatred.”

    If all Jews behaved like Gilad Atzmon, Bobby Fischer, Gerhard Menuhin (who raised precisely this point about his family) or the multitude of good Jews who simply go about their business and prefer their loyalty to their nations of residence and their respective host cultures to their membership in the tribe, “antisemitism”, so called, would practically cease to exist. Unfortunately, there is a very viral element among them that – through the characteristic ambition, special pleading, publicity hounding and litigious whining – tends to rise to the top, and unfortunately it is this group that represents the public face of “the Jews.”

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  377. Art says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Of course you are right – with very few exceptions – we face an almost total tribal Jew cabal.

    Phil is trying to tip-toe through a mind field – hoping to live another day by saying a “few” Jews.

    The world is not ready to acknowledge the truth and face the reality of “most” Jews.

    Let us hope it does not come to that.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Sherman
  378. @Fran Macadam

    It might surprise you, so thoroughly uninformed as you are, wilfully or otherwise . . .

    Ooof.
    The unkindest cut of all — “so thoroughly uninformed . . .”
    —–
    Consider several broad, interrelated notions:

    1. The distinctions are not religious/creedal, nor ethnic nor racial. The distinctions ARE political, or, more accurately, a matter of control of the historical narrative:

    2. There are two major competing United States of America narratives: that emerging from the Founders (until the era of the world wars); and that narrative that emerged in full force with FDR’s administration during which — or through which — Jewish persons came to prominence and later dominance.

    2. a. As well, the USA has no definitive national epic. In my view, there are two competing versions of the essence of USA: one narrative dates from the Founders to the era of the world wars. Phil mentioned in his article what is, I believe, the basis for US foreign policy under the “Founders” narrative; namely, George Washington’s Farewell Address.

    The second narrative emerged in full force in FDR’s administration and seeks dominance over the prior narrative. Journalist and self-styled historian Rick Atkinson urges that the ordained narrative of WWII (especially his own 3-part version!) be considered the “US national epic.”

    Jews in the USA were central to the creation of the FDR narrative as well as of the “international order” that emerged from it, and that the neocons that Phil named (as well as others) seek to sustain.

    3. That period during which Jewish persons in America came to prominence in USA coincided with what can reasonably be called a civil war among conflicting Jewish groups.

    The competing Jewish groups were (again, broadly described) the American Jewish Committee — composed of wealthy and/or influential German Jews who had been in the USA for quite some time, and the American Jewish Congress, an organization formed in 1918 with the primary to represent “Jewish persons in the USA” at Versailles, with the of achieving a “homeland for Jews in Palestine, and guarantee of rights for Jews in European states.”
    The American Jewish Congress (AJC) originated with Rabbi Stephen Wise and his cohort, and represented more recently-arrived (in USA), primarily Eastern European Jews (in contrast to German Jewish persons). AJC was fiercely Zionist.

    In recognition of the depths of my own lack of informed-ness, pardon and permit this cut-and-paste Historical Note on the formation and composition of the American Jewish Congress:

    “The American Jewish Congress was founded originally in 1918 by a group of Jewish American leaders as an umbrella structure for Jewish organizations to represent the American Jewish interests at the Peace Conference following the end of World War I. It was seen as a national parliamentary assembly representing all American Jews. Representatives to the Congress were selected by all major national Jewish organizations and delegates representing local communities were elected by some 350,000 Jewish voters.

    The main purpose at that time was to unite American Jewry in support of a program to be submitted at the Versailles Conference, which included winning international support for a Jewish national home in Palestine and guarantees for the rights of Jews in post-war European countries.1 Among the organizers of the American Jewish Congress were
    Rabbi Stephen S. Wise,
    Justice Louis D. Brandeis,
    Judge Julian W. Mack and
    Zionist leader Louis Lipsky.
    During the Congress sessions in Philadelphia, its 400 elected deputes included such prominent figures as
    Felix Frankfurter,
    Henry Morgenthau,
    Nathan Straus,
    Henrietta Szold,
    Horace Kallen, future founder of New York’s New School, and a young Zionist from Milwaukee
    Golda Myerson (future Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir).

    It was supposed that the Congress would dissolve as soon as it fulfilled its task. But in 1920 some delegates reassembled after the last session of the American Jewish Congress in Philadelphia, and the next day under the chairmanship of Stephen S. Wise laid foundations for a new American Jewish Congress, which for more than 90 years represented the American Jewish community in many significant issues and challenges of the 20th century United States and the world.2 Stephen S. Wise (1974-1949), a Reform rabbi and charismatic orator, became a champion for social justice and civil rights and was one of the founders of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. He later became a strong advocate and vocal supporter of Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s “New Deal”. In 1938-1945 Wise was member of Roosevelt’s Advisory Commission on Political Refugees, and advocated admission of a large number of Jewish refugees.

    The need for a permanent representative organization led to the formal establishment of the Congress as a permanent active body in 1922. It soon became one of the central organizations and one of the most influential agencies in defending the interests of the American Jewish community. Its main goal was one of advocacy of American Jewish interests through organizational channels rather than through individual connections as was the practice before World War I. Expanding its agenda internationally, the American Jewish Congress emerged in 1930s as a leading force in the anti-Nazi effort to stop Hitler and aid the victims of persecutions, rousing the American public to the Nazi threat at home and abroad. The American Jewish Congress staged a huge protest rally against Hitler and anti-Semitism in March 1933 at New York’s Madison Square Garden, in which about 80,000 people participated.4 The American Jewish Congress spearheaded the effort to unite Jewish communities around the world against their common Nazi enemy. A million dollar defense fund was launched to rescue Jewish children orphaned by the Nazis. The formation in the mid-1930s of the World Jewish Congress was a part of these international efforts, as was the American Jewish Congress’ domestic effort to combat anti-Semitism and discrimination against Jews in the U.S., using laws and social activism as the effective means of struggle. ” http://digifindingaids.cjh.org/?pID=365446

    SIDEBAR: Here’s an intriguing detail: In 1933, when, as AJC’s own “Historical Note” states, Rabbi Wise began fulminating against “Hitler” and “Hitlerites” and “Nazism” and Germany in general, there was no holocaust.
    That’s a fact.
    Even though the rabid Rabbi had been claiming that “6 million Jews” were being “starved,” “persecuted,” “exterminated,” “annihilated” since at least 1900, he had not conjured the Regnier telegram until 1942, and even then, the Jewish Agency in Palestine, under the leadership of David Ben Gurion, apparently did not believe him: in June, 1944, Ben Gurion convened a meeting of the Jewish Agency Executive to decide whether to ask Allies to bomb Auschwitz. JAE produced the consensus opinion stating their belief that “Auschwitz was a labor camp,” and that as they “did not wish to be responsible for the death of a single Jew,” they would not request that the Allies bomb Auschwitz.

    ALSO: To convey some sense of the depth of the conflict between German Jews and Wise’s AJC, here’s a passage from Rabbi Wise’s autobiography, “The Challenging Years,”

    “[In 1932] A group of German Jews with utmost sarcasm had sent me the following message: “Say to Rabbi Wise that he need not concern himself with Jewish affairs in Germany. If he insists upon dealing with Jewish affairs in Europe, let him occupy himself with Jewish problems in Poland and Rumania.” Such was the shortsightedness and even snobbery, for such it was, of the German Jews, on the eve of what was to prove the undoing of a thousand years and more of Jewish life in Germany.”

    Rabbi Wise held the conviction that “German Jewish life in Germany” would be undone because he had been directed by Louis Brandeis to undo it: The circularity with which American Jewish leaders engendered hatred of the German people in order provoke a war against Germany and draw the USA into it, contrary to the wishes of the majority of Americans, reveals itself in one page of the Rabbi’s autobiography. He wrote:

    “Having read diligently whatever had been published about Hitler . . . mine was a minimum of surprise, withal a maximum of horror, at the news that on the night of January 29, 1933, Hitler had been summoned to be chancellor of the Reich. At once, the reign of terror began, with beatings and imprisonments of Jews–one need but reread the “Berlin Diary” by William Shirer.

    As mentioned above, Benjamin Ginsberg noted that William Shirer had been employed a communications outlet engaged by American Jewish interests to propagandize an anti-German message in order to vanquish American “isolationism” and promote the urgency of engaging in war. The pattern beginning to take shape is one in which the producers of propaganda to provoke war and engender hatred are the same as those who write the “history” of the war they worked so zealously to provoke.

    But back to Rabbi Wise’s remembrances:

    After recounting how, after Hitler’s appointment, Wise went to Washington to visit the German ambassador. Wise notes that

    “While my reaction (to Hitler’s appointment) was anger, . . . I went to Justice Brandeis and told him . . . that I had found in the [German] Ambassador neither defiance nor self-extenuation but a sense of only slightly concealed shame.”

    Wise repeats that Jews were first among those treated with brutality.

    Several reports in Jewish Telegraph Agency archives repeat these claims of brutality toward Jews, but there is good reason to believe they are false. Consider, for example, this

    It’s also interesting that Phil’s article states that Max Boot, who identifies himself as a Russian Jew, in which Boot “seeks divine guidance . . . in Commentary . . . bible, . . .the monthly of the American Jewish Committee, that is, the (formerly) Germanotropic Jewish group. That fact signifies the capitulation of German Jews to the Eastern European, Zionist Jewish orientation: The American Jewish Congress won the Jewish civil war and have remained in power ever since.

    Benjamin Ginsberg’s writings, particularly, “How the Jews Defeated Hitler,” spell out step-by-step how influential Jewish persons achieved positions of prominence then used them to further Jewish interests in supporting Stalin and Communism in order to utterly destroy Germany and Hitler.

    We all, of course, imbibe with mother’s milk the unassailable belief that Hitler = the embodiment of evil and had to be destroyed, at all cost.

    As Ginsberg details, the denunciation of Hitler/Germany etc. began, in earnest, early in 1933.

    I am still trying to discover why, in 1933, Hitler, Hitlerites, Hitlerism, and Germany were labeled as the world’s most pressing threat and evil.
    Sam Shama made a valiant attempt at defining Jewish grievances against Hitler/Germans here, but you’ll notice that his real-world (vs. Chesterton’s hypothetical) timeline begins in 1938, after five years of provocations have erupted in violence.
    Sam does not discuss that important period between FDR’s inauguration and the growing acquisition of Jewish power and influence; of those influential Jewish persons & organizations’ activities in seeking out and collaborating with “east coast Protestant elites” and Anglophiles. Even thus conjoined, this group formed a minority among the American population that was, until the very last moment, staunchly opposed to joining a war in Europe. But through propaganda — some of which the Unz forum has described –

    American Pravda: Alexander Cockburn and the British Spies by RON UNZ

    and

    The Conquest of the United States by Britain… with a little help from her friends, by STEPHEN J. SNIEGOSKI

    and through numerous other methods led and implemented by Jewish institutions and persons that Ginsberg describes and that included:

    -Rabbi Stephen S. Wise,

    -Justice Louis D. Brandeis,

    -Felix Frankfurter,

    -Henry Morgenthau,

    -Avery Dulles,

    - William J. Donovan,

    “The Century Group [a collaboration between East Coast Protestants and American Jews], sponsored speeches . . . by such luminaries as William J. Donovan, a winner of the Medal of Honor and one of America’s most famous heroes of World War I. Donovan’s typical theme was that universal military training was designed to save American lives . . . [He] described conscription and training as giving the Amercan soldier “a fair chance for his life” rather than as an imposition by the government. This campaign played an important role in paving the way for the enactment of a selective service law and beginning American preparation for the war to come.” – Ginsberg

    Donovan became a leading light in American spy and covert activities — the OSS — which transitioned into the CIA.

    -The Warner Brothers,

    -Hollywood movie studios, headed exclusively by Jewish persons ,

    -New York Times,

    -Radio broadcasting network CBS (owned by “brothers Isaac and Leon Levy, . . . and their partner Jerome Louchenheim [and managed by] wealthy 26-year-old William S. Paley, son of a Philadelphia cigar family and in-law of the Levys, as president,”) which employed

    -Edward R Murrow, who in turn employed

    -William Shirer to collaborate with those promoting war against Germany;

    - The United States Department of the Treasury;

    - The U S State Department;

    3. You alluded to, and condemned, “holocaust deniers.”
    I don’t think of myself as a “holocaust denier.” That label gives far too much credence to the notion that a holocaust is as firmly embedded in reality as the law of gravity.
    It is not.
    The capital H holocaust is a created narrative, nacre layered on a foundation of suffering that Jewish leaders like Rabbi Wise and Louis Brandeis had every reason to know was already occurring in Poland, Russia and Rumania, not at the hands of Germans, but that they callously disregarded in preference to removing wealthy Jews from Germany in order to advance their project of creating a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and in furthering their dominance over American political and cultural life.

    Jewish people are the foremost target of the severe sanctions against ‘holocaust denial.’ If Jews worldwide fully understood the extent to which they were sold out by Jewish leaders such as Wise and Brandeis, it’s hard to imagine what would happen.

    If non-Jews fully took aboard the depravity of the combined Anglo-Zionist war that brought about the utter destruction of the Christian heart of Europe — what would happen? Would a real holocaust of Jews take place?
    Is that why it is so necessary to censor out of mind full information about Jewish complicity in engendering and prosecuting the wars in Europe (and the Middle East)?

    In your condemnation of “holocaust deniers,” or, as I conceive it, making broadly known all sides of the story, including the terrible story of Jewish perfidy, you consign “American Jews” to continued victimization by the very Jewish leaders who recklessly put their lives at risk 85 years ago and their acolytes who continue to do so today.

    I say: American Jews must “deny the holocaust.”
    (So must non-Jewish Americans.)

    If, as you say,
    “There are millions of Americans who are Jewish, and their American citizenship and humanity at least equal to yours and mine,”
    then the American narrative that they embrace must be that of the Founding Fathers of America, and not the narrative of holocaustism contrived by the same propagandists who provoked and prosecuted and perpetuate a war against the heart of Christian Europe, whose names extend from Rabbi Wise, Henry Morgenthau and Louis Brandeis to Max Boot, Michael Ledeen and Dennis Ross.

    Let them all be anathema.

    • Replies: @Sherman
    , @geokat62
  379. It’s not surprising that Washington’s political denizens are incestuous, isolated as they are from those deplorables outside who appear foreign and unfathomable to them.

  380. Phil,

    I am very glad Brother Nathaneal engaged here.

    He unloaded (constructive) Real Jew News to the “sniveling” Sam The Sham Shama. Quickly, the ex-Bro knew who is Sam Sham!

    Respectfully, I believe you passed over his powerful sentence about “sweeping, unrestricted power.”

    (Sigh) To hang up on “tight knit” Jews means little more to indoctrinated “Deplorables” who saw affinity between the Bunker and Jefferson families. Given the steady ram war-on-Iran bleat, we have little time to “cop out.”

    THANKS & as always, God bless your work.

    Selah Real Jew News no muzzle needed.

  381. L.K says:
    @Anon-og

    Sam the Sham is merely a vile Zionist liar and shill, it is that simple.

    This disgusting creature, who has casually spoken about ethnic cleansing as many of the remaining Palestinians as possible, pushing them into Jordan, Egypt or wherever, can always be found in the comment section under Giraldi’s articles, or any other article critical of Israel and Zionism.

    This dirtbag is also a big defender of the financial mafia which rules the world, the FED, etc…. big surprise… not.

    Also unsurprisingly, this miserable Zionist and Jewish supremacist rat ain’t a big fan of free speech either…
    The same is true for the zio village idiot “iffen”.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Sam Shama
  382. geokat62 says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    It’s all about WHAT’S GOOD FOR THE JEWS, of which mindset I was raised as a Jew with. (I’m now an Orthodox Christian.) That’s all that matters to these people, the goyim and America be dam##d.

    But, but, … Brother Nathanael, Sam Shama has assured us that’s not the case (he even has polls to prove it). Who are The Dumb Goyim supposed to believe, a commodity trader or a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian?

  383. L.K says:

    In 2013, Jean Bricmont and Diana Johnstone, wrote a pretty good article which, surprisingly, was actually published in the counterpunch webzine. Both authors got quite a bit of Flak over it though.

    Titled ‘The People Against the 800 Pound Gorilla’, the piece covers the Zionist lobby and its decisive influence in getting ZUSA involved in these middle East wars. Re Syria, the authors wrote:

    An American friend who knows Washington well recently told us that “everybody” there knows that, as far as the drive to war with Syria is concerned, it is Israel that directs U.S. policy. Why then, we replied, don’t opponents of war say it out loud, since, if the American public knew that, support for the war would collapse? Of course, we knew the answer to that question. They are afraid to say all they know, because if you blame the pro-Israel lobby, you are branded an anti-Semite in the media and your career is destroyed.

    One who had that experience is James Abourezk, former Senator from South Dakota, who has testified: “I can tell you from personal experience that, at least in the Congress, the support Israel has in that body is based completely on political fear – fear of defeat by anyone who does not do what Israel wants done. I can also tell you that very few members of Congress–at least when I served there – have any affection for Israel or for its lobby. What they have is contempt, but it is silenced by fear of being found out exactly how they feel. I’ve heard too many cloakroom conversations in which members of the Senate will voice their bitter feelings about how they’re pushed around by the lobby to think otherwise. In private one hears the dislike of Israel and the tactics of the lobby, but not one of them is willing to risk the lobby’s animosity by making their feelings public.”
    Abourezk added : “The only exceptions to that rule are the feelings of Jewish members, who, I believe, are sincere in their efforts to keep U.S. money flowing to Israel. But that minority does not a U.S. imperial policy make.”[1]

  384. Rurik says:
    @Anon-og

    To a certain extent, the Alt-Right is playing on American ignorance just like the Israelis are because if most Americans knew what the Israelis have done, the Alt-Right movement would lose its creditability. How do you restore dignity when you are playing nice with the one who has his sword in your back?

    I don’t know what you mean by playing nice OG, since it’s the grass-roots alt-right, (not the respectable alt-right, like Bannon) who’re pointing out that it was Israel that did 9/11 !

    Bannon and Trump and all the rest of the ‘respectable’ alt-right types have to play footsie with the zio-cons, because that’s the world we live in. Just look at the snake pit George Bush and Obama left them in DC. If they didn’t hiss like snakes now and then, they wouldn’t be able to communicate with the denizens of the DC sewer/swamp.

    It will be a long hard slog to drain that swamp, as the entire GOP cucks are all mainlining zio-con lucre, pumped in from the tentacles of the Fed.

    We all have our work cut out for us, but if anyone is hammering away at Israeli treachery, it’s the alt-right.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  385. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    He writes for the news paper, and the magazines He scribes for the periodicals. He lectures at the Synagogues .He moderates discussions at the meetings of the thinks tanks. He meets Israeli PM He meets with Obama. He is cited by the circle he moves in He is showcased by NPR . He writes papers that combines his opinions with of Israel and that of AIPAC and JINSA . He moves seamlessly among different platforms whose differences are in names only -no substantial differences .

    Now one see easily how just one man can get his version of truths, his antidotes to the created crisis , his fulsome praise of the worst Israeli policies , his closeness to the US president and the congress and his presence in the media – all tied up in one message and in one activity – which is to promote Israel . No one from the opposite side comes close .

    And he is not alone . He has been there in Roosevelt’s time. His presence was in Wilson’s era. He just changes his names in different ages But he achieves with numerous other like him same aim- promoting Israel at a cost to the interest of USA and in the past at a cost of the interest of UK.

    Is it anti antisemitism to explore and debate this. ?

    Did Iraq war happen because of a great many guys like him repeating and doing same stuff . Yes. Will Iran hype lead to same result? Very likely.

  386. L.K says:

    Here is the article

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/13/the-people-against-the-800-pound-gorilla/

    Some quotes from zionist media itself:

    First, according to the Times of Israel (not exactly an anti-Zionist rag): “Israel intelligence seen as central to U.S. case against Syria.”[2] (Perhaps the fact that it is “central” also explains why it is so dubious[3].)

    Then, in Haaretz[4]: “AIPAC to deploy hundreds of lobbyists to push for Syria action”. Or, in U.S. News and World Report[5]: “Pro-Israel lobby Seeks to Turn Tide on Syria Debate in Congress”. According to Bloomberg[6]: “Adelson New Obama Ally as Jewish Groups Back Syria Strike”. The worst enemies of Obama become his allies, provided he does what “Jewish groups” want. Even rabbis enter the dance: according to the Times of Israel[7], “U.S. rabbis urge Congress to back Obama on Syria”.

    The article also debunks the usual objections, many of which I have encountered in the comment sections of pieces dealing with Israel/Zionism, such as Chomsky type claims of ‘war for oil’, or war for ‘capitalism’, etc.

    • Replies: @anon
  387. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    we should save little corners for wicked levity here and there, should we not?

    Absolutely! I couldn’t possibly enjoy our Decline & Fall without humor; the darker the better.

    Take Brother Nat, for example. Come the 4th Reich in Murica, can you visualize him being dragged to the ovens by his erstwhile buddies who (he doesn’t seem to understand this) know that it’s in the blood (can’t undo the Jew) while he clutches and raises his crucifix saying, “No, no, I’m a philosophical Christian like you, same-same.”

    BTW Lizard King is back. I always enjoy your exchanges with the lizard.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  388. Anon-og says:
    @Rurik

    Yeah I get that too though. When playing from within the system, playing nice is a necessary evil.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  389. iffen says:
    @L.K

    Sam the Sham is merely a vile Zionist liar and shill, it is that simple.

    vile Zionist liar

    Is there any other kind?

    Sam has disclosed his Jewish persuasion and has on many occasions stated his views vis-à-vis Israel, so strictly speaking, he does not meet the definition of a shill.

    You have a much better case with the village idiot charge, as I am responding to your comment.

  390. Anon-og says:

    US President Donald Trump described Israeli premier Benjamin Netanyahu as a greater obstacle to advancing peace talks than Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, according to a report in Haaretz.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171004-report-trump-described-netanyahu-as-bigger-problem-than-abbas/

    No shit sherlock ….

  391. iffen says:
    @Hairway To Steven

    through the prism of pure national interest

    Did geo give you a gold embossed copy of the national interest? I’ve been begging for a copy for over a year and haven’t received one yet.

  392. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K

    Peter Beinart made this observation in Haaretz

    “As a force in American journalism, we certainly have [arrived]. Jews edit The New York Review of Books, The New Yorker, The Weekly Standard, The Atlantic, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Vox, Buzzfeed, Politico, and the opinion pages of The New York Times and Washington Post.”

    It is more than that . But this is enough of a presence to promote one idea, one policy,one direction at any given time. This is enough because people respect these media ( at least until now ) and media quote each other to amplify same message which it at a given moment want to be amplified . People in the main street wonder why his or her Congressman or woman is not taking these opinions seriously . Soon the Congressman or woman will and has. Congress ask these guys to brief them and brief the world leaders , brief the attendees at Town Hall Meetings and ask them to send update .

    Bingo – we get the war we get the sanction, we hear the most arrogant partial blind crude comments against the enemies of Israel . We are also showered with the wise observations how Israel is our best and only ally putting himself at risk for itself and for America.

  393. L.K says:

    Israelis Speak Candidly to Abby Martin About Palestinians
    Must Watch

    When Empire Files host Abby Martin visited Jerusalem’s Zion Square, she met one Israeli after another who responded to her question about how best to end the conflict with the Palestinians with calls for extermination and ethnic cleansing.

    Ironically, the Jerusalem Municipality has dubbed Zion Square — the site of numerous brutal mob assaults on Palestinian workers and youth — a “square of tolerance.”
    “We need to kill Arabs,” declared one woman with a big laugh. She added that Israel must “kick out the Arabs.”‘
    “Israelis have to take over, and they have to kick them away,” an Israeli man said of Palestinians. He added, “Islam is a very bad disease. Not just for Israel, for all around the world.”

    Some Israelis suggested the genocidal extermination of Palestinians.
    “I dont think there’s any answer to it. There’s only one way: I would carpet bomb them. It’s the only way you can deal with it,” a young Israeli man insisted. “I don’t trust them; you can’t trust them,” he said of Palestinians. “The only way is just to stop it completely.”
    “The Jews should have rights to hate them,” he said of Arabs. “I think we have the right to hate them. I don’t see any reason why not. I wouldn’t trust any of them.”
    Many of the Israelis interviewed by Martin were Americans who were born in the U.S. and only moved to the Middle East later in life.

    • Replies: @Talha
  394. Zumbuddi says:
    @Anon-og

    Give one example when Dennis Ross felt compelled to play nice.

    Don’t try to impress your adversary with your ‘niceness – they’ll take it for a weakness to exploit.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  395. geokat62 says:

    Take Brother Nat, for example. Come the 4th Reich in Murica, can you visualize him being dragged to the ovens by his erstwhile buddies who (he doesn’t seem to understand this) know that it’s in the blood (can’t undo the Jew) while he clutches and raises his crucifix saying, “No, no, I’m a philosophical Christian like you, same-same.”

    Notwithstanding your petty attempt at ridicule, seems to me we’ve reached a crossroads here: either Sam Shama is lying or Brother Nat is, – i.e., they both can’t be telling the truth.

    Now, Brother Nat made the following statement:

    Every Sabbath Shacharit (morning) service growing up in the 50′s we sang Hatikvah, the Israeli National Anthem. It was part of our ‘religion’ that what’s bad for Israel is bad for all Jews.

    To which Sam Shama responded:

    You snivelling liar. Your Shacharit service must’ve been one designed entirely in the recesses of your deeply fucked-up mind.

    To which Brother Nat responded:

    You can divvy up the Shacharit service as many times as you want here, mr maven, but that doesn’t change the FACT that we DID sing Hatikvah, the Israeli National Anthem, EVERY Sabbath service.

    Now, I have to say, based on the details Brother Nat has disclosed, I have to give him the edge. Recall, he said “growing up in the 50′s we sang Hatikvah, the Israeli National Anthem.”

    IIRC, Sam has disclosed that he may have been born in the 70s. So, given this information, how would he know whether the Israeli national anthem was sung at the particular synagogue Brother Nat attended, especially when it may have occurred two decades before he was born?

    If he can’t refute what Brother Nat has said, all Unz commenters should henceforth refer to him in their comments by the name with which Brother Nat has christened him, “Mr. Maven.”

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  396. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    spraying in the hope that something will hit

    you mean like this Sam?

  397. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Denmark celebrates a murderer -

    “Kristeligt Dagblad also ran a long piece in its ‘Liv&Sjæl’ (‘life & soul’) section to celebrate Pundik. Here, the focus is on the ‘humanist’ Pundik, his Jewish victimhood, and his Zionist propaganda – yet it did not utter a word about his having been a Mossad spy while working as a journalist in the 1960’s (for Information and Politiken), and not a word about his part in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, and specifically the Tantura massacre of 1948. All that is too contentious. Let’s not upset the charm.

    The article documenting Pundik’s activities as a Mossad spy appeared in Information in 2010, titled “Yes, I was an agent for Mossad”. Pundik was interviewed by Lasse Ellegaard, who also brings up the Tantura massacre and Pundik’s part in it. First about the spy issue, it is noted how in 1970, when Pundik became chief editor of Politiken, he told Danish Radio, “As long as I was chief editor, Politiken would identify with Israel’s destiny”. In the 2010 interview Pundik confirms: “I meant it”.

    For Pundik, the border between spying and journalism is vague: “Where is the border between journalism and spying?”, he asks, earnestly– and agnostically.

    Curiously, an article in Journalisten by Rasmus Elmelund, published nearly two months ahead of Pundik’s birthday, quotes Pundik saying the opposite:

    Herbert Pundik: ”If there is anything that is bad for a paper, it is political partisanship”.

    In that article, Pundik boasts of how, when he became chief editor of Politiken, he informed the centrist political party Radikale, which had had a strong influence on the paper, that “we are free”. ”

    From Mondoweiss

  398. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    Brother Nat is cut from the same cloth as Gilad Atzmon. And you are absolutely right, in the 4th Reich he’s probably a candidate to go under Mengele’s knife for experimentation. Here is how Atzmon wails, decrying his own deeply impure nature, being born a Jew. It’s a lifelong struggle apparently looking in the mirror:

    “Otto Weininger helped me grasp who I am, or rather who I may be, what I do, what I try to achieve and why my detractors invest so much effort trying to stop me.

    “Thanks to Weininger, I realised how wrong I was – I was not detached from the reality about which I wrote, and I never shall be. I am not looking at the Jews, or at Jewish identity, I am not looking at Israelis. I am actually looking in the mirror. With contempt, I am actually elaborating on the Jew in me.”

    http://hurryupharry.org/2011/09/18/gilad-atzmon-on-european-blood-libels-and-anti-semitism/

    As far as that reptile L.K. is concerned I just saw his post. Let me extend to him my customary greetings.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  399. Anon-og says:
    @Zumbuddi

    I figured I’d speak softly and carry a big stick …you’re thinking that’s the wrong strategy??

    • Replies: @utu
  400. Sherman says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Hey Chuck

    What was that part about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?

    Sherm

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  401. @geokat62

    edge my ass, brother nat steam rolled over sam.

  402. Sherman says:
    @Art

    Hey Genius,

    “Mind field” s/b “minefield”.

    Peace,
    Sherm

    P.S. I counted at least three Jews who were just awarded Nobel Prizes in science.

    Have you made any new discoveries about PORK and beans?

    • LOL: iffen
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Art
    , @helena
  403. lavoisier says: • Website
    @FLgeezer

    Change it fast.

    They are cowards.

  404. Sam Shama says:
    @L.K

    Hello reptile, it seems you’ve come out of hibernation. Blindness, limb malformations, and Schizophrenia which you suffer are the common afflictions borne by most issues from incest; the line started by your mother visiting the reptile pen gets diminished each passing day, restricting your choices for propagation mainly as a binary between your sister or your mother.

    Free speech is for humans, reptiles to be crushed underfoot.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  405. mhgaffney says:

    Phil,
    I hope you see this. I just sent the following to Tod Dreher at TAC. Keep up the good work!
    MHG

    Dear Mr Dreher,

    I heard what happened to former CIA officer Phil Giraldi because he spoke the truth: that we went to war to make the Mideast safe for Greater Israel.

    Were you responsible for his dismissal from TAC? If so, then you are indeed a coward. I suggest you take a look at my writings on the matter of Israel — see below — which strongly support Giraldi.

    Sincerely,
    Mark H Gaffney, author, Black 9/11

    Dimona: the Third Temple

    https://www.amazon.com/Dimona-Temple-Behind-Vanunu-Revelation/dp/0915597772/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1507162814&sr=1-5&keywords=mark+gaffney

    9/11: The FBI Report and the Dancing Israelis: Standing Truth on its Ear

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44477.htm

    9/11: A Wilderness of Mirrors and the Prince of Darkness

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44068.htm

    • Replies: @Linda Green
    , @ChuckOrloski
  406. Sam Shama says:
    @Sherman

    Actually 2 out 3 in Physiology and Medicine, and 2 out of three in Physics. I am waiting for the next Fields Medal. I think I have a clue whose work deserves it and will most likely receive it.

    Art is a serious contender for the next one in Literature following the examples of philosophers like Russell and Camus. His misspellings are problematic though…..

  407. utu says:
    @Anon-og

    The problem is that you (we) have no big stick. Alt-Right (upper case) is nothing else than a Zio front. You do not think that guys like Bannon may believe he can outplay them. He knows we are junior partners and they are in position from where they can only implore the senior partner to let them do what the senior partner does in Israel. Please, let us be like you guys. We love Israel and will do anything for you, just let us be 10% as mean as you are to Muslims and immigrants. This is what people like Sailer hope for. And the fall back position is talking #$&% about Blacks which is a favorite pastime for the alt-right (lower case) les deplorables. The goy bye was right on the money.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  408. geokat62 says:

    Is it just me or have others noticed that a number of hasbarists have recently come up with a new talking point in this thread… all in an effort to defend the indefensible?

    Here, in a nutshell, is the crux of their argument:

    While imperialist wars have been waged for eons, all over the world, and for the benefit of the few, some people insist on making a big fuss about it now that it is being waged in the Middle East? It must be because of antisemitism… there is no other rational explanation!

    While this argument may seem convincing to some, here’s what makes it disingenuous. After witnessing the utter destruction and senselessness of two world wars, most people in the post-war period were sickened by these wars and were determined to do everything in their power to avoid repeating them. A prime example of the anti-war sentiment was the resistance to the Vietnam war. And, as these hasbarists well know, it was Jews who were at the forefront of the antiwar movement. These Jews were held in high esteem for standing up to the MIC and the war machine.

    They were so successful that there was real hope that the people of the world would benefit from the peace dividend everyone expected at the end of the Cold War. But that never happened. Why? Well something had happened to the antiwar war movement in the intervening period between the end of the Vietnam War and the end of the Cold War. Its heart and soul was ripped out when the Jews who had been the leading organizers, funders, and speakers decided to abandon it. What made them walk away? While there may have been several factors at play, my sense is that this statement by Irving Kristol is probably the best explanation:

    Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel… Jews don’t like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States… American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.

    It was precisely at this point in time (1972) that the peace dividend was kissed goodbye.

    And what more proof do we need to demonstrate the abject state in which the antiwar movement finds itself in than looking at the undisputed leader of this movement, the website antiwar.com. While frontman Justin Raimondo is willing to call out the neocons, he trembles at the thought of pointing out that the overwhelming majority of these individuals are Jews and that their passionate attachment to the Jewish state might have something to do with their desire to call for wars against 7 Muslim countries in 5 years. If you even hint at the J word, your comments are trashed and you are banned before you can say Oy Vey!

    Without its heart and soul, nothing can survive. That’s why Antiwar.com is a joke.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  409. @mhgaffney

    Would anyone like to elaborate on the Samson Option that the powerful Jewish hierarchy invokes should anyone try and stop their reign of terror?

    Another tough question:

    Once the synagogue of Satan has thoroughly soiled the minds of a nations people, what are the best means of turning them back to the light?

    • Replies: @nsa
  410. geokat62 says:

    Brother Nat is cut from the same cloth as Gilad Atzmon.

    Not so fast, Sam. Since Brother Nathanael decided to call your bluff, the onus is now on you to either show your hand or fold it. What’s it gonna be? Mr. Maven or Mr. 204? It all hinges on your next move.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  411. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    It’s a logical fallacy to conclude that the opinion of somebody not born during or prior to the date of a proposition/assertion necessarily and sufficiently renders it false. By this metric, you’d be lying claiming as truth anything that precedes your birth and which you claim as the data of history.

    Bro Nat may or may not have sung the Hatikvah during Shabbat service, but I doubt it was every Shabbat service. His saying so and you concluding that to be an unfalsifiable claim is simply illogical and provides a peek into your well-known proclivities. Besides, I think Bro Nat is a plant, and not of the green variety.

    Ask any Jew, research it on the Web, and illuminate to us the well-established customs of the Shacharit service, please.

    Maven out.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  412. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    I responded to Natster, but my post got censored earlier. Twice.

  413. Mr. Giraldi, may I ask what you think of this? (Rhetorical type question. No need to answer.)

    The hoax of the twentieth century, as the title of Dr. Butz’s book on the “Holocaust” goes, is the smoke-screen to conceal the utter failure to achieve the professed war aims of Roosevelt, Churchill and the CFR. Now the Zionist Establishment will continue to have a free hand to commit genocide in the Near East and smear any person in this country who dares to dispute the orthodoxy or point out the real results of World War II. And the Establishment is so besmirched with the responsibility of failure that it needs the Jewish publicists and news media to destroy anyone who has the temerity to ask awkward questions. The horrid prospect looms of having to say: “Maybe we were wrong.” A further prospect then looms: “Maybe Hitler was right.” But such confessions buttered no parsnips in the harsh judgments of the post-war world. They were not accepted as excuses at Nuremberg under the new ex-post-facto “law” worked out by the United States and their Soviet allies. The new basic law of nations requires only one clause, very simply: “It pays to be on the winning side.”

    -Tyler Kent, The Roosevelt Legacy and The Kent Case, … based on the address by Tyler Kent at the Fourth IHR Conference (Chicago), September 1982. It was published in The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1983 (Vol. 4, No. 2), pages 173-203.

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p173_kent.html

    • Replies: @utu
  414. geokat62 says:

    Bro Nat may or may not have sung the Hatikvah during Shabbat service, but I doubt it was every Shabbat service.

    Mr. Maven it is!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  415. @Sam Shama

    Hello reptile, it seems you’ve come out of hibernation. Blindness, limb malformations, and Schizophrenia which you suffer are the common afflictions borne by most issues from incest; the line started by your mother visiting the reptile pen gets diminished each passing day, restricting your choices for propagation mainly as a binary between your sister or your mother.

    Free speech is for humans, reptiles to be crushed underfoot.

    WTF izzat? Do you think anyone comes here to read such trash? Why?

    Do you think it impresses anyone or enhances your credibility in any way? If so, explain, please.

    Wow. Just wow.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Anon
  416. @Sam Shama

    Brother Nat is cut from the same cloth as Gilad Atzmon.

    There you go, saying anti-Semitic things about Atzmon. Whassup wit dat?

    • Replies: @utu
  417. utu says:
    @jacques sheete

    to conceal the utter failure to achieve the professed war aims of Roosevelt, Churchill and the CFR.

    What were the professed war aims?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  418. MEexpert says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Dr. Giraldi:

    I hope you don’t waste your time in rewriting the article. Anyone who has followed your writings over the years knows that you are careful in pointing out that you are not against Jews but critical of Israel and her unusual influence over our foreign policy. Rewriting the article would not satisfy your critics anyway.

  419. utu says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Mr. Giraldi,

    OT, I want to solicit your opinion about the 1979 Iran Revolution. Could it be that it was the first successful case of using the weaponized Islamic fundamentalists against a secular state in the ME? The first casualty of not yet announced Yinon plan? Any rumors of Israel involvement? I have no evidence but the theory sounds really very good. Perhaps we should revise the history and blame Shah fall and destruction of fast developing secular Iran on Israel as well. Israel preferred a weak and hostile and w/o western allies Iran than friendly and strong Iran.

    Here it is:

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-trump-presidency/#comment-2031470

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-trump-presidency/#comment-2031985

    We may count the victims like Iraq and Libya and now we know the culprit w/o a doubt but perhaps the serial killer was active for much longer than we thought.

  420. @geokat62

    they have 2 actually.

    1) first point is exactly as you stated. since everyone did it before 1945, it is ok to do it now. all the international bodies created since 1945 to prevent just that be damned :)

    2) second point. since israelis has received some scientific awards, that somehow makes it ok to kill entire families, burn their homes and take over their lands.

    haha, these fuckers have some balls :)

  421. utu says:
    @jacques sheete

    The so-called self hating Jews like Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir or Milton Kapner who did not defect Jewish faith and culture to assimilate and extinguish their Jewishness but who thrive on their Jewishness by being seemingly anti-Jewish are the best insurance Jews have against hostile genocidal designs directed against them. This can’t be done to them because “look at good Jews like Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir or Milton Kapner.” But they are not good Jews and they are not good non-Jews because they are obsessed with their Jewishness. The only good Jews are the ones who ceased to be Jewish by assimilation and complete extinguishing of their Jewishness. They are good because they are no longer Jews. And we gentiles will be better when we won’t have to think about Jews anymore.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Rurik
  422. Talha says:
    @L.K

    Hey LK,

    There’s also an interview with Joe Rogan that she does – which is also very eye-opening:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  423. nsa says:
    @Linda Green

    The Reverse Samson Option is also operable……the Russians and Chinese have reserved at least one thermonuke for Tel Aviv in any nuclear dust-up. The idea is to deter the relentlessly conniving jooies from starting anything overly ambitious leading to a nuclear exchange………..

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Fran Macadam
  424. Avery says:
    @nsa

    {the Russians and Chinese have reserved at least one thermonuke for Tel Aviv in any nuclear dust-up. }

    How could you possibly know that?

  425. Anon-og says:

    Some of this shit would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic and sad

    “The author of a discredited Holocaust memoir is not apologizing.

    Herman Rosenblat, who has acknowledged inventing his story of meeting his wife on opposite sides of a concentration camp fence, told “Good Morning America” that he has no regrets and would tell the story again, given another chance.

    “It wasn’t a lie,” he said during a taped segment aired Wednesday. “It was my imagination and, in my mind, I believed it. Even now, I believe it””

    http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Herman-Rosenblat-defends-fake-Holocaust-memoir-3171125.php

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  426. @Clay Bishop

    This is off topic but I’ll bite. I’m an Independent and I have never been anything else. All identity politics is a scam which to divide the herd and keep them from the levers of power. Blacks are rootless former slaves. Al Sharpton is just a scam artist and all lives matter except for Al Qaeda’s. Blacks have lost their culture and their native languages just like most whites in America. Blacks don’t know their ancestral religions. Whites aren’t conserving anything. They are leaving Christianity and let their countries be destroyed. Its ridiculous too considering whites killed their own in their own homeland for centuries. They’ve lost their appetite for it after World War II. They then decided to import Wahhabi of all things into Europe. Blacks are still killing each other in Africa to this day. Hopefully someday soon we will learn who we really are with accurate DNA ethnicity testing. I bet many whites have some African DNA. Then people can pretend to get their heritage back and crack a book on their ancestral native tongue. I know many of my ancestors came from the British Isles in the 17th and 18th century. Every male ancestor I come across fought the British. I’m using the same language my ancestors did hundreds of years ago in Virginia and Britain. I have roots. I have a history that goes back but I have no tribal affection to Britain. Other Whites and blacks adopted my language and culture. We read American & British literature not German or French. Our music and entertainment is mostly from the English speaking world. The only issue I have is lack of assimilation of Hispanics and groups like the Jews and Cubans not letting go of their foreign attachments. Everyone needs to assimilate, learn English, drop their foreign attachments, and get along. People who are race obsessed tend to be crazy from my personal experience just look at the Neocons. They are called crazy for a reason. The more pro-Israel someone is the more insane they are. I have no use for these people. The more Zionist Jews become the more stupid they are and more hateful they become.

    American whites may have abandoned their native culture but one thing all Whites have in common is abandoning their heritage for a new cult like Christianity and then abandoning it for something else. Rod Dreher laments about this. It was just a passing fad. Celtic civilization disappeared. Western people lost their indigenous culture which I think is a shame. We still have some old Norse though. I think what comes next will be a reaction to the Wahhabi they let into their countries. Whites were ignorant of their own western heritage but were allowed to reclaim it thanks to Islamic scholars who preserved it for them. Where would we be without ancient Greek and Roman text? We would be a bunch of Rod Drehers. I doubt we would be a first world country without that ancient knowledge which whites had ditched for an oriental fairy tale of all things. Our civilization flourished after that ancient knowledge was reacquired. Our government is not based on Christianity but Rome and Athens. Seriously who would pick a Catholic puppet government over the United States?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  427. squodgy says:

    There can NEVER be whirled peas while israel (sic) exists.

  428. @Hu Mi Yu

    Save for the fact that religion is declining in importance in American culture, and Christianity is pretty much the only religion that can be openly mocked. There are precious few descendants of those original settlers on hand, and it is not clear to me that their culture has continued.

    Good point about China. The Chinese are, I believe, one of the few groups on earth that can stand up to Jewish dominance. I hope they do, for all of our sakes.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @RobinG
  429. Art says:
    @Sherman

    Hey Sherm,

    How many million Palestinians did you immoral Israelis force through checkpoints today?

    How many did you torture today?

    How many did you shot today?

    Etc. etc. etc. on and on

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Bastards!

  430. @nsa

    To be fair, the United States has our own Samson Option – it is the pillar of our nuclear policy, better known as MAD – Mutually Assured Destruction. The atomic firepower in sheer numbers exceeds by many thousands that which Israel could unleash, more than enough to obliterate life on earth, many times over.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  431. joeG says:

    It’s so obvious that the American president serves only as the Israeli Viceroy, and the Congress is enthralled to Israel. Foreign policy is made in Tel Aviv and enforced by AIPAC. The support for Israel has made a mockery of American ideals. From the Levon Affair,, the attack on the Liberty, to those dancing Israelis in Liberty Park with the towers burning in the background Israel knows it can do anything including killing Americans without consequence because the cowardly politicians want to remain in office. The way to fight this is to fund elections with publica money and limits on spending. But most of all it is to educate the public, which of course is hord to do because of Jewish control of the media and of Hollywood. The primary loyalty of Jews is to Israel, not the United States.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  432. @utu

    What were the professed war aims?

    That’s a very good question and I’m happy someone asked.

    Kent’s article answers that, so may I refer you to it for details? I provided a link in my comment. Four key ones were the preservation of the balance of power in Europe favorable to the Brits, the preservation of the Brit Empire, the preservation of British naval supremacy, and to make the world safe for “democracy” (as in WW1).

    Instead of favoring the balance of power toward the Brits, the favor shifted to the USSR, the Brit Empire was not preserved intact by any stretch of the imagination, the US, instead of Britain, gained naval supremacy, and the thing called democracy was not made safe. The so called Cold War ensued against a nuclear armed Soviet Union, which was a much bigger threat than Germany ever was, even in the wild imaginations of the most rabid and unhinged Germanophobes.

    As one can see, the thing isn’t over yet, since psychopathic scions of yesterdays’ crackpots are still in charge, and the world is probably less safe than it ever was.

    • Replies: @utu
  433. RobinG says:
    @Talha

    Abby Martin says she spent a month in the West Bank and Israel. Good for her, getting more serious about journalism, and illuminating Rogin’s and her rather large followings. But strange that with all her access to media, she claims to have not known the truth about Palestine until going there. If so, may I recommend a little Press TV, for starters?

    Here’s the whole interview, if anyone’s a fan (I’m not). The Israel bit comes at 2:15:50 -
    Joe Rogan Experience #950 – Abby Martin

    • Replies: @Art
  434. @Sherman

    Hey Sherm the Worm,

    My late-parents were Catholic, working class, and street smart.

    In compliance with 10 Commandments, I honored Charlie and Mary. What’ more, they taught by example how “respect” for another is an EARNED human process.

    So at age 65, for example, I respect Mr. Alan Sabrosky and not you! Certainly not The Maven Shama!

    Selah Synagogue of The Son of Sam.

  435. @Rurik

    That’s for that, Sir! I may have to revisit her. I was turned off long ago by her utterly corny and simple minded claim that greed is good.

    That last quote is a particular gem, and shows that maybe, greed ain’t always good.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  436. @mhgaffney

    Hey Mark,

    Thank you for “your service.” Terrific words spoken on behalf of P.G. !

    One need not have stormed either a Normandy beach or kick down a Baghdad mosque door to be comsidered doing service to the USA

    Selah Jesse The Body Ventura and screw Ari Fleischer.

  437. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    Why don’t you also direct your outrage to the reptile’s comment to which I was responding? I suppose “dirtbag”, disgusting creature”, “rat” deserve politeness in your book.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  438. @utu

    The so-called self hating Jews like Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir or Milton Kapner who did not defect Jewish faith and culture to assimilate and extinguish their Jewishness but who thrive on their Jewishness by being seemingly anti-Jewish are the best insurance Jews have against hostile genocidal designs directed against them.

    I understand what yer saying, but I do wish Sam would’ve answered. His type of “insurance” seems wide of the mark.

    In response to your point, I must say that my experiences with “Jewish” businessmen is that I’d much prefer to deal with a “Jew” on a business deal than with a typical goy any day, and so I know there are good guys among them. I’ve pretty consistently found it difficult to deal with goyim because they allow all kinds of dumbass issues to enter the discussions, jealousy being one of them. “Jews,” in general seem to be free of hangups like that and tend to keep their eye on the ball of making progress. If everyone wins, they seem to be OK with that. With goyim, they seem to resent that the other guy comes out ahead too.

    Too bad that “Jews,” politically, are like goyim , generally, (Winner take all).

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  439. @Sam Shama

    I suppose “dirtbag”, disgusting creature”, “rat” deserve politeness in your book.

    I was asking you. Please answer my questions. I was under the impression that you were becoming much too sophisticated for such juvenality. Whaddya think this is,a site for Kindergartners, er sumpin?

    Regarding my “book,” such invective deserves to be ignored unless it’s aimed at some greasy politician, which is an entity that deserves it.

  440. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Whites were ignorant of their own western heritage but were allowed to reclaim it thanks to Islamic scholars who preserved it for them. Where would we be without ancient Greek and Roman text? We would be a bunch of Rod Drehers.

    LMAO! Good one!

  441. RobinG says:
    @jbwilson24

    Israel sets up first hi-tech accelerator program in China

    The program will help Israeli hi-tech companies succeed [read infiltrate] in the huge Chinese market.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israel-sets-up-first-hi-tech-accelerator-program-in-China-506526

  442. @Sam Shama

    Yet my overall sentiment Jacques is driven by one simple reason and it stems from hardwired human behaviour which few, if not none can overcome.

    Sam, you ought to stick to day trading or whatever. Psychoanalysis is way beyond yer pay grade and isn’t even in yer bag of talents.

    Jews, of all people, should know what motivates people fundamentally, even more fundamentally than dollars and shekels.

    You seem like a bright guy, but I gotta tell ya, “psyching” people out is obviously not your thing. Yer a piss poor rookie schmoozer too, at least here.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @iffen
  443. Zumbuddi says:
    @Fran Macadam

    First, how does MAD work re North Korea? There’s nothing Mutual in that relationship, the US could obliterate No and has threatened to do so.

    Second, sanctions intended to destabilize an economy and harm civilians o the point they will riot are Acts of War.
    US wages such wars, illegally and immorally, against states that do NOT have the ability to respond “mutually.”
    When US used sanctions against Iraq 500000 children lost their lives. Does that make you proud to be American? How does the involvement of Jewish persons in promoting & endorsing killing sanctions affect your regard for persons in government who might act to benefit Israel?

    Third, “International Jewry” used precisely that means — economic warfare — against Germany, beginning in March 1933.
    Economic war was pernicious then & even more evil now, because an enlightened people should learn from history, not repeat its crimes.

  444. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon-og

    Criticism of Israel in and of itself is nothing to be concerned over, had it not been the case that people doing so are also rather fond of Holocaust denial, and generally ascribing all ills, perceived and real, to Jews. You are new here, so I’d suggest reading the archives of a selection of the commenters. Here is a sample: L.K , Mulegino1, Art, SolontoCroesus [also goes by Chuck], anarchyst, Mark Green, Wally, CloakandDagger, to name only a few. I estimate that about 90% of the UR readership is to one degree or another cut from this very cloth. Who in your view is criticising Israel without a hint of Antisemitism?

  445. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    What on earth are you talking about day trading? Psychoanalysis is an interesting subject and I agree that sitting with the subject is far more effective than solely reading what they write. My pay grade? What would that be?

    Anyway, should I try my hand at poetry than?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  446. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    Hahahaaaa. You chaps are so blinded by your dislike for Jews that you simply cannot perceive mutually beneficial, co-operative ventures between Israel and China. Many more of these with many other nations and much greater in scope are in the works. Stay tuned.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
  447. Rurik says:
    @utu

    We love Israel and will do anything for you, just let us be 10% as mean as you are to Muslims and immigrants. This is what people like Sailer hope for.

    I suppose what you’re trying to suggest is that alt right types are like Israel because they oppose massive immigration (of all Third World people) into their respective nations ?

    is that what you’re suggesting ?

    what about Poland? They are notoriously ‘xenophobic’ and are openly in distain of the refugees pouring into Europe. Do they too love Israel and are begging to be as ‘mean to Muslims and immigrants’ as Israel is?

  448. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    The program will help Israeli hi-tech companies succeed [read infiltrate] in the huge Chinese market.

    Maybe we will get to see if the Chinese can out-Jew the Jews.

  449. Rurik says:
    @utu

    And we gentiles will be better when we won’t have to think about Jews anymore.

    WTF?

  450. iffen says:
    @jacques sheete

    in general we would surely arrive at a place of internecine ethnic strife and little else

    My take-away from Sam’s comment is that we basically have two choices. We can consider human nature and decide if we want to be on the side that pushes to bring out the best or we can choose the side that tries to bring out the worst, usually for partisan advantage or advancement of political opportunists.

  451. @Anon-og

    I haven’t bothered going to the link but remind readers that the phenomenon is not all that uncommon. An example that springs to mind is Manning Clark, author of a once well regarded six volume history of Australia who was found to have related a fantasy about his being in Germany at the time of Kristalnacht when in fact he wad relating (approximately) what his fiancée, later his wife, told him.

  452. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    I was turned off long ago by her utterly corny and simple minded claim that greed is good.

    I suppose her talk of selfishness was intoxicating to a lot of people who had marinated in the mantras of the Christian churches that self-negation was the ultimate virtue. And that to live a moral life, was to always act in service to others, never to one’s self.

    And then along come Ms. Rand, and she says anyone telling you that a only a life of selfless service and sacrifice is moral, is looking for you to sacrifice your life to serve them.

    young men would see their buddies come back from Vietnam, either in pieces, or in a bag, and realized that a lot of what Ayn Rand was saying about all that sacrifice that we’re all supposed to line up for, was a crock of bullshit. And it was always poor, young men dying, and rich, old men lying, and Ayn’s message resonated, at least about things like the war.

    Or the very idea that we’re here to repudiate our own lives, and live for others, and serve, and serve, and serve…

    I remember reading her and thinking, ‘yea, I’ve been harangued in the church about how wicked the flesh is, and how I should repudiate my own life, and live for Jesus, or the church, or at least others, always others.. and I wondered if that was always true.

    I think somewhere in-between Rand / and the churches and the governments demanding self-sacrifice – is a happy medium.

    But when I was growing up, there were no voices at all talking about living one’s own life for one’s own benefit being a virtue. Such an idea was heresy in the US Midwest. And so I read all her books, and there’s a lot there. It was never about living one’s life at the expense of others, that would horrify Rand, but rather that you shouldn’t be expected to repudiate this life as vile, but rather revel in it, even if that meant helping and serving others, so long as that was what you wanted to do.

    People’s mistake was elevating her and her ideas to a sort of new religion, which was absurd. She was a very flawed individual, with massive contradictions. But many of her ideas have stood the test of time, like the quotes you mention.

    “A society that robs an individual of the product of his effort, .. or attempts to limit the freedom of his mind, or compels him to act against his own rational judgment-a society that sets up a conflict between its edicts and the requirements of man’s nature-is not, strictly speaking, a society, but a mob held together by institutionalized gang-rule.”

    “We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.”

    - as the ZUSA government now considers it legal to arbitrarily assassinate US citizens – and even do so by terror drone from the sky, it’s hard to argue that she wasn’t prescient with that one!

    when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed.

    - just look at the Too Big to Fails and Wall Street bailouts to see she was spot on there too

    There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

    and lastly, in order to stay on topic here, and again aimed directly a TAC’s Robert Merry

    “I am not brave enough to be a coward, I see the consequences too clearly”

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @jacques sheete
  453. You said: “My suggestion for countering the overrepresentation of a special interest in policy formulation was to avoid putting Jewish government officials in that position by, insofar as possible, not giving them assignments relating to policy in the Middle East.”

    Looks like they will call you a fascist. LOL

    “Dealing with The Jews requires a Jewish Primer on how the Jews talk and how they use certain words:

    1) “Fascist.” Jews call someone a fascist when that person prevents the Jews from taking control of the politics of a particular nation.

    2) “Fascism.” The political status of a particular nation that keeps the Jews in their place and out of power.

    “There is not a single instance when the Jews have not fully deserved the bitter fruit of the fury of their persecutors….We come to the nations pretending to escape persecution, we [Jews] are the most deadly persecutors in all the wretched annals of men.”

    – Samuel Roth, Jewish writer, Jews Must Live (NY,NY: The Golden Hind Press Inc., 1934) pp. 64-65

    “The Jews are all through government, and we have got to get in those areas. The government is full of Jews, second, most Jews are disloyal. You can’t trust the bastards. They turn on you.”

    President Richard M. Nixon, Nixon Tapes, July 3rd 1971.

  454. iffen says:
    @Rurik

    I thought someone had hacked your handle, Rurik, then I got down to the ZUSA paragraph and saw that you had regained control.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Rurik
  455. @RobinG

    Hey RobinG,

    In several past comments posted here at U.R., I tried to convey information on how The Goldman Sachs Group is trying to do “untethered” investment in the Peoples Republic of China. One can learn more on this effort by undertaking a Wall Street Journal Google-search.

    In addition, as you may know, in 2016, the “Make America Great Again” (Sigh) President Trump served as The Grand Marshal of the (NYC) Israel Day Parade. (Sigh)

    Early this year, the “populist” President sent his amigo Scaramucci to the Davos convention, and with Chinese Xi Xiaoping present, Scar informed the elite assembly that “President Trump is the globalist’s last great hope.”

    Yes indeed RobinG, the elite international Jews want and inevitably will pursue a 7-course (Rao’s Restaurant-scale) feeding in the IMMENSE Chinese consumer market.

    THANKS, RobinG for your consistent insights posted here.

    Selah Mnuchin Maven Rothschild Way Chinese Special Economic Zones.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  456. Rurik says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    remind readers that the phenomenon is not all that uncommon.

    you mean Jews lying about their experience during the Holocaust

    like how bears and eagles were used to kill Jews?

    and how babies would be tossed from lories into bonfires

    or in the words of known liar Elie Wiesel; there “spurted geysers of blood from their graves for months after they were buried.”

    not to mention the by now notorious lampshades and soap

    all lies of course, as was the holy ‘six million’ number – a laughable absurdity

    shrunken heads, fat shoveled off the crematorium floor and put in vats for soap making

    sadistic Nazi surgeons sewing Jew’s feet to their arms and hands to their legs..

    female Nazi women checking out all the new nude prisoners for any tattoos that would make good lampshades

    you have to give the Jews credit for imagination!

    I’m with Norman Finkelstein that the avalanche of lies and hysterical blood-libels against the German people diminish the true suffering that many Jews and others endured or lost their lives during that terrible time.

    But when there’s no business like Shoah busine$$ to keep the shekels flowing from the goyim into the hands of the ever increasing number of ‘Holocaust survivors’, you won’t make too many friends in the Jewish community by pointing out that most of the shit we’ve been relentlessly harangued and bludgeoned with were and are lies.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  457. @Sam Shama

    Anyway, should I try my hand at poetry than?

    Certainly.

    It couldn’t be any more cringeworthy than mine, or some of your comments!

  458. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    but I do wish Sam would’ve answered. His type of “insurance” seems wide of the mark.

    Ok, I’ll attempt a reply. First, I am not sure I understand this business of insurance I supposedly implied. Please elaborate.

    Now as to the general attitude of Jews compared to other groups, my experience tells me while certain group traits can be talked about without committing egregious generalisations, it is best not to dismiss individuality as a mere secondary factor.

    It is true that Jews get intensely focused on whatever it is that concerns them, be it business, science, mathematics, theology, politics, entertainment and even farming under compromised conditions. It might be hardwired behaviour shared with the English, Celtics and Chinese. Chinese are extremely transactional people. There is also a hardwired socialistic streak in Jews which predisposes them to share successes and winnings :). I think Gentiles in the US today, are mainly differentiated from Jews in that they carry a far smaller proportion of highly driven individuals. They are generally great to socialise with over a beer, but not if you are inclined to discuss business, let alone anything that taxes the cerebrum. The overwhelming majority in my experience do not harbour a shred of Antisemitism or racial bias. Which is to say the typical UR crowd are a self-selected sample of individuals who for one reason or another take the easy path of blaming Jews for all their troubles. The political behaviour of Jews – and this is my conjecture – is powered by a combination of historical memory of a hyperactive minority group always alert to what comes with the territory, i.e. the inexorable dislike for the successful group. It is interesting to note in this context that Inequality of Wealth is not a new feature except for a brief period in the 1950s and 1960s in the US. It has been the story everywhere, Jews or no Jews. Thomas Piketty in his major book, Capital, notes e.g., the French Revolution was primarily successful in the department of beheading many of the purportedly guilty and perfecting the guillotine, but not at all in changing the ownership of Capital and wealth.

    More TBD…..have to run.

    BTW what Iffen wrote in #461 is exactly what I meant and I wonder what your objections are? What schmoozing are you speaking about?

  459. Rurik says:
    @iffen

    you had regained control.

    the (great) Canadian rock band Rush was massively influenced by Ayn Rand’s philosophies

  460. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    let alone anything that taxes the cerebrum :(

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  461. @Rurik

    Thanks again! One of the best comments on a thread and an article full of them.

  462. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    LOL. I wrote that particular sentence to give you an out and you took it, the greater logical fallacy hurriedly pushed under the carpet.

    Ask Bro Gnat to write some more and I promise, censorship permitting, to deal with his retarded sweeping pronouncements on Jews.

  463. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    blaming Jews for all their troubles.

    is that what’s called chutzpah Maven?

    is that what you tell Palestinians and Iraqis and Syrians in the Golan Heights?

    to stop blaming Jews for all their troubles?

    It is true that Jews get intensely focused on whatever it is that concerns them,

    this part Maven, is actually true, and that’s why I sometimes read your comments, because occasionally you’ll say something worth reading

    I recall being in a Jewish owned building full of Jewish businesses, and I’ll never forget how intensely these people were pouring over the credentials of some potential candidate for office, and scrutinizing every word this person had said regarding Israel and the Middle East, with a mind to either promoting him or destroying him based on his fealty to the Jews and to Israel.

    I was struck by how single-minded they were, and passionate, motivated and in unspoken agreement. If he’s good for the Jews, we’ll help him / if he’s bad for the Jews, we’ll destroy him.

    So that ‘intensely focused’ part certainly rings true from my limited experience

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  464. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    I will say without reservation, and this not merely to please you, that my conversations with the folks in Appalachia, and more generally with Evangelicals in Texas left me genuinely in awe. They are not representative of gentiles elsewhere.

  465. @Sam Shama

    Damn, Sam!

    I’m shocked at what you wrote there. I could have written a lot of it myself!

    Chinese are extremely transactional people. There is also a hardwired socialistic streak in Jews which predisposes them to share successes and winnings :). I think Gentiles in the US today, are mainly differentiated from Jews in that they carry a far smaller proportion of highly driven individuals. They are generally great to socialise with over a beer, but not if you are inclined to discuss business, let alone anything that taxes the cerebrum.

    I totally agree with every point there. I also try to avoid generalizations, but some are valid, and I’d say that Asians are generally “transactional,” not only Chinese.

    As for the Jews sharing winnings, I’ve learned that if I share with them, they are more than willing to share with me. That simply isn’t true with the average goy.

    As for the last sentence, it’s true, and the trait is cringeworthy to the max. In fact, the only goyim I know that are willing to discuss anything beyond “foooootball” and similar scat are a few of my relatives and a very precious friend from Brazil.I’m continuously shocked at the naivete, superficiality and sheer ignorance and stupidity of the many professional grade goyim that I come into contact with on a daily basis. Their intellectual laziness and lack of curiosity are stunning as well.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  466. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Well, just to go all weird on you (possibly left-liberal, although I’ve known lots of great Republican/conservative environmentalists), has anybody considered that when we exported our jobs and manufacturing to China, we also exported our toxic waste (by-products) and air pollution? Recently, China announced that it would no longer accept our toxic recycling ((Oh Dear!!! Where will we process our garbage now? India? How long will that last?))

    We are all very clean and green here, ha ha. BTW, back in the 80′s Germany was dumping its hazardous waste on Poland. Wonder what goes now.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  467. Incitatus says:

    ‘J’accuse des juifs américains et Israël’ is a reliable purgative at Unz. Week after week, Giraldi sharpens his barb with determination Ahab would envy. Servile commenters pull faithfully on the oars, navigating endless conspiracies in pursuit of national restoration that usually beatifies Dolf and Benny as defenders of Christian Europe. Who knew?

    Why the current outrage? ‘America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars.’ An innocent headline. Everyone knows it’s true. Just as “America’s Italians are Driving America’s Crime” and “America’s Irish are Driving America’s Drunkenness.” The Mafia’s behind every felony, and heartless Micks suppress liver statistics. Conspiracies, conspiracies all around us!

    Yes, neocons sold Shock and Awe. Old news. Giraldi’s headline makes it seem they gave the orders. Bush, Cheney, Rice, Powell, Rumsfeld, Franks and many others get a free pass. Oh, almost forgot George Tenet. He’s CIA, isn’t he? Mr. “Slam Dunk.” Does the CIA have any responsibility for launching wars? Or is it just “America’s Jews?”

    Familiar voices target Iran. Some pine for Likud Israel. Others for “beautiful chocolate cake.” Here’s a quiz. Can Kristol give the order, or Trump? Extra credit: are Cotton and Royce Jewish?

    Hate redundancy, but didn’t the whole Iran versus Great Satan mess start with the CIA in ‘53? Kermit Roosevelt, the Dulles Brothers, and Ike? Good Christians all? Hell, they were on a roll. Just ask Jacobo Árbenz in ’54. Making the world safe for BP and United Fruit. Pity the CIA wasn’t quite as good with the fall of the USSR or 9/11.

    “For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen…kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison…”

    What about Ann Coulter, Jim Woolsey, George Tenet, Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich, Bill O’Reilly, George Will, Bill Gertz, Andy Rooney, Dick Cheney, GW Bush, Condi Rice, Donny Rumsfeld, and other Iraq ’03 cheerleaders? The endless parade of retired flag officers and ex-CIA analysts that morphed, like butterflies, into well paid media darlings? Were they just half pregnant? Nothing to see, move along?

    “Interesting, informative, and controversial perspectives” can get tedious. There’s only so much novelty in scapegoats, inside jobs, CGI planes, demo free-fall, puerile razors, race baiting and the like. “No name calling, level playing field debate here” is stale month after month. Can’t they find a nice hometown torchlight parade? Whoops, guess they tried that.

    On second thought, where else can one learn Jews engineered two world wars and the Shoah to monopolize American library shelves with Holocaust literature, foreclosing vital accounts of WW2 Italian war casualties and – you guessed it – orphans? Poisoning the minds of ‘America’s Italian’ grandchildren. Perhaps even predisposing them to ridicule grandparents! Infamy! Tears roll down the face. Harness the outrage!

    PS. Attention Planet Germania: the wreck of passenger liner SS Athenia, sunk without warning 3 Sep 1939 by U-30 [128 civilians and crew killed, including 28 US citizens and 54 Canadians] has been located. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41503664 At the time Nazis claimed innocence, secretly altered the log, and accused Churchill of the sinking. No doubt Winston put them up to it. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

  468. leveymg says:

    RECCED. I would recommend that everyone read the entire article along with the one that got Phil fired over at AC and banned from a panel discussion critical of Saudi Arabian foreign policy. The original article is reprinted here: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/

    On a personal note, while nearly everything he has written about the manifest wrongs of Israeli policy and the undue influence in American government of friends of the Israeli Right-wing is factual, and morally defensible, I believe that Phil — whom I have met and read for 15 years — ignores the enormous variety of opinion among Americans of Jewish descent and within Israel itself.

    Indeed, some of the best informed and most effective critics of Jewish neoconservatives — the Netanyahu tribe driving the militantly expanding “Greater Israel” — are Jewish. Mr. Giraldi is indeed correct that Jews are tribal, but they are actually many tribes, often literally at war with themselves. I would encourage Phil to take that fact into consideration in his language that sometimes appears to brand all Jews as a monolithic interest group. We are not.

    Phil Giraldi has a right to be heard – he has many valuable things to say that deserve wider discussion.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @anon
  469. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    [ and that’s why I sometimes read your comments, ]

    Oh, do you? I am grateful. And is that why you reply to as many as you do even when not directed at you? Check the archives O saint Rurik.

    [is that what’s called chutzpah Maven?]

    No; that’s part jealousy and part incompetence

    [is that what you tell Palestinians and Iraqis and Syrians in the Golan Heights?]

    No; https://www.facebook.com/unwatch/videos/10154800858516561/

    [I was struck by how single-minded they were, and passionate, motivated and in unspoken agreement.]

    As they should be. Did you notice the Nobels in Science this year? Contributions to Man’s knowledge and benefit require single-mindedness.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @jacques sheete
  470. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Ah, Incitatus welcome back! You were missed. I’ll have to pick up the quality of my commentary which I had dumbed down; a decision equally based in boredom as it was out of need.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Incitatus
  471. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    In fact, the only goyim I know that are willing to discuss anything beyond “foooootball”

    this is of course all too true, but really it’s more a characteristic of Americans per se, than the goyim in general. Most of the Europeans I know or even S. Americans, like the Argentinian I was recently speaking to, are quite educated and bright.

    Americans, more than any other people on the planet, have been systematically, with precision, by some very motivated professionals, trained in behaviorism and modern psychology, with all the techniques fine tuned and well-honed by communist governments and fascist governments, from the Nazis to the Soviets to the Koreans and all the rest….

    to dumb down the American into a mindless, obedient consumer zombie

    and that’s what they’ve done

    they’ve used the cathode death ray

    and rap “music” and political correctness to turn Americans into this

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  472. Ah, Incitatus welcome back! You were missed.

    By what?

    Speaking of the Athenia, let’s hear about the Lusitania and the Patria.

    If the Germans blamed the sinking of the Athenia on Churchill, they were probably correct, and besides, even if they lied about whodunnit, they probably learned the trick from Winny the Warmonger itself. Or any number of Marxists too.

    “Knowing the psychological effect that the sinking of the Lusitania had on public opinion in the United States and how the loss of American lives helped so greatly in gaining support for intervention, the British lost no time in contriving a similar incident very early in World War II. This was the sinking of the liner Athenia on September 4, 1939 when the war was only twenty-four hours old. Some thirty American lives were lost. However, the anti-war sentiment was so strong this time that the ploy failed in its object. The public more or less shrugged off the incident, saying in effect: “Stay out of the war zones if you don’t want to get hurt.”

    -Tyler Kent, The Roosevelt Legacy and The Kent Case, … based on the address by Tyler Kent at the Fourth IHR Conference (Chicago), September 1982. It was published in The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1983 (Vol. 4, No. 2), pages 173-203.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Incitatus
  473. druid says:
    @iffen

    They hate us for whoever we are, for no reason, anti-Semite. Puuuhhhleeeaseee!
    A part of your tribe are the worst people in the world, and have nothing but disdain for Christians especially, and everyone else generally! You the “chose” bro!

  474. @Rurik

    and rap “music” and political correctness to turn Americans into this

    I’d add “Country and Western” myoo-sick too. And “Playboy,” Disneyland, Hollywood, “pro” sports, and hosts of other sewage as well.

    Or maybe I’m just (ly?) bitter.

    “For who can be so tolerant of this monstrous city, who so iron of soul, as to contain himself …?”

    Juvenal, SATIRE I, ~ 100AD
    DIFFICILE EST SATURAM NON SCRIBERE

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  475. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Abby Martin says she spent a month in the West Bank and Israel. Good for her, getting more serious about journalism, and illuminating Rogin’s and her rather large followings. But strange that with all her access to media, she claims to have not known the truth about Palestine until going there.

    Hi RobinG,

    I don’t think people get the actual physical suffering of the Palestinian people.

    Every aspect of their lives is controlled by Jews. Their home is not their castile – it is subject to invasion by Israelis without a court order. Their land is subject to confiscation by squatters. Their phones are monitored. Their water is restricted. They are subject to being summarily shot for being in the wrong place. The IDF roams at will. They go through endless checkpoints. The Jews are diabolically in their face in most every physical way. The West Bank and Gaza are virtual prisons. Their police and government work for the Jews. The psychological trauma of it all is overwhelming, and falls on men, women, and child.

    The suffering of the Palestinian people is the center of this whole fight. Their suffering in their own land defines the dark nature of the worldwide Jew people. It is inescapable. Palestinian suffering is a mirror to the Jew mind.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Sherman
    , @Anon-og
  476. Anon-og says:
    @jacques sheete

    While we’re at it, we should add Fox and CNN to the mix as well, the Jews couldn’t possibly tolerate something like Haaretz for the Goyim. It blows the mind because Haaretz encourages the type free discourse that would be tagged as anti-Semitic in America

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  477. druid says:
    @Art

    Completely agree. And 911 was definitely an inside job!

    • Replies: @Art
  478. druid says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    And she was a hypocrite to boot! Went on the dole!

  479. geokat62 says:

    I wrote that particular sentence to give you an out and you took it, the greater logical fallacy hurriedly pushed under the carpet.

    Sure you did, Mr. Maven.

    They are generally great to socialise with over a beer, but not if you are inclined to discuss business, let alone anything that taxes the cerebrum

    I’ll have to pick up the quality of my commentary which I had dumbed down; a decision equally based in boredom as it was out of need.

    What more proof do we need to know in what high regard Mr. Maven holds The Dumb Goyim?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @iffen
  480. @Incitatus

    The cucks have joined the hasbara, I see.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Incitatus
  481. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Did you notice the Nobels in Science this year?

    2 to 1 – 90% of those Jews want to disappear the Palestinian people. The dark nature of the Jew overshadows what good they do. Look at Israel – a diabolical nation of thugs and squatters – and the major source of wars on our planet.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Sherman
    , @Sam Shama
  482. @RobinG

    RobinG,

    Lest we forget, elite American-Israeli Empire Jews managed an export of a portion of the WTC tower wreckage to the P.R.C. for scrap metal “recycling.” (Sigh)

    In comparison to perhaps NY / NJ-based recycling facility options, did the Chinese metal recycler offer more $ per ton? Hmm. But how about the shipping (transportation) cost to take the WTC tower metal to China?

    W.T.F. was going on here? Did Larry Silverstein’s Tower insurance policy manager approve & cover the cost for shipping the steel (crime evidence!) all the way to freaking China? (Sigh) Holy Marco Polo!

    As long as soil, water, & air stay clean at places like the Crawford Ranch and “Orgy Island,” nobody gives a flyin’ fuck about, for 1-example, the Pb contaminated Flint (tap) drinking H20.

    THANKS RobinG, and peace be with you.

    Selah Cheney US natural gas drillers & the EPA-approved Halliburton Exemption Tom Waits “Everything is green” $.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Sam Shama
  483. Art says:
    @druid

    And 911 was definitely an inside job!

    Scratch 9/11 and it bleeds Jew. The questions about 9/11 are building. There will be a reckoning.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  484. edNels says:
    @Art

    When you have the means to dominate, and own enough of the media, then it is nice to control the discussion.

    Isn’t it amazing that EVERY Christian preacher on TV is an Israel firster.

    Control the opposition! Who Killed Christ? Kills the religion. Controls the opposition to a lying mammon world that Christ is averse to. Creates an abundance of mercenary fake churches and charlatan celebrity preachers. Helps the bastards they are in the woodwork enough ok.

    “Send money folks”, why don’t they get kicked off TV? Then many of ‘em are outed as whore mongers and queers, don’t seem to matter! The churches are so polluted, but maybe that’s on purpose!

  485. Rurik says:
    @Incitatus

    PS. Attention Planet Germania:

    Attention Planet Jewmania:

    the case of the USS Liberty is infinitely more salient to this conversation than what happened to the MV Wilhelm Gustloff, which was sunk by our noble allies at the end of the war full of German civilians, some 9,400 people (including some 5000 children), “which makes it the largest loss of life in a single ship sinking in history”.

    an obvious war crime

    but it what does that have to do with a discussion about Zionist Jewish treachery in dragging America into serial wars for Israel?

    sure there are goyim traitorous scum who collaborate for their bag of thirty shekels, if the Jews didn’t have willing kapos among the Gentiles, they’d get nowhere fast.

    the Maven just posted a video of one such Gentile traitor berating the UN

    Mosab Hassan Yousef is a Palestinian who worked undercover for Israel’s internal security service Shin Bet from 1997 to 2007.

    Shin Bet considered him its most valuable source within the Hamas leadership: The information Yousef supplied prevented … exposed numerous Hamas cells, … including the incarceration of his own father

    charming, eh?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Incitatus
  486. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    [Speaking of the Athenia, let’s hear about the Lusitania and the Patria.]

    Well, to my knowledge, the Lusitania was also sunk by krauts. Patria was a Hagannah operation gone terribly bad. Why? Are there other theories?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  487. Sherman says:
    @Art

    Hey Genius

    “Castile” s/b “castle”.

    Shalom

    Sherm

  488. Anon-og says:
    @Art

    Agreed. It’s a view into the Jewish psyche and in itself forces one to question the Holocaust narrative. How could a people so in touch with their own supposed recent suffering support a state that embraces the very philosophy that allegedly victimized them?? And to top this off, they engage in uncanny levels of lies, deceit and infringement of liberties of other nations, where their diasporas live so to make sure that this Zionist plan is not compromised in the least bit. Palestine is a sneak peek into what is in store for others if these people continue on their current path and truth be told, the situation in Palestine does a great job of explaining historic anti-Semitism and even why their Lord cursed them to be nation-less. We are being forced in America to support Israel, our politicians are bribed and /or threatened and our news silences critique of Israel and innocent Palestinian victims are portrayed as the evil doers – all this in conjunction with nonstop Holocaust reminders to keep us blind to their crimes because they are eternal victims…truly the epitome of wickedness.

    • Replies: @Art
  489. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon-og

    Oh please stop the constant bitching. NYT is extremely Lefty, and if that doesn’t please you read Ha’Aretz online! Better yet why don’t you start a Ha’Aretz equivalent here? What’s preventing you? Exactly nothing!

  490. Sherman says:
    @Art

    Hey Genius

    “90% of those Jews want to disappear the Palestinian people” s/b “90% of those Jews want the Palestinian people to disappear”.

    Shalom

    Sherm

    P.S. How are the PORK and beans?

    • Replies: @iffen
  491. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    and the bovine have wandered in as well chewing the cud

  492. @Sam Shama

    Did you notice the Nobels in Science this year?

    No.

    Did you notice the Sheete Prize for Everything this year? In case you hadn’t noticed, I’ve awarded it to myself every year since its inception. The Shoolitzer prize too, especially for poetry. (Cringeworthy (sic), no?)

    So are you saying that Jews did well in the Nobels in Science? Were they Israeli ones, American, German or what?

    PS: I bet that the Germans would have walked off with most of the prizes if “we” hadn’t exterminated so many of them and kidnapped and blackmailed many of the rest. Watcha think?

  493. @ChuckOrloski

    But how about the shipping (transportation) cost to take the WTC tower metal to China?

    Special deal on rates from ZIM, no doubt. How can ya lose?

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  494. Art says:
    @leveymg

    Indeed, some of the best informed and most effective critics of Jewish neoconservatives — the Netanyahu tribe driving the militantly expanding “Greater Israel” — are Jewish.

    Where are they – we see NO major public discourse by Jews that goes against Israel first.

    The answer is that they are conditioned in their youth to never speak ill of other Jews. Jews fear other Jews more than they love the truth and the freedom it brings – too bad for them.

    Left right center – religious or not – in every country on the planet – Little Jew or Big Jew – Jews are dark single minded tribal culture passed on from generation to generation. They are a tribe that thrives on dishonesty in ethics and money.

    Think Peace — Art

  495. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    [What more proof do we need to know in what high regard Mr. Maven holds The Dumb Goyim?]

    Another example of how you take the bait. LOL & QED.

  496. @Sam Shama

    Hey Maven Sam,

    How can you up the the quality of your (by now) tiresome bullshit?

    Hm. Extra spicey beans and hot jalapeno peppers on Rao’s menu?

    Selah Real Jew News Chef Hop Sing Ponderosa Happy Meal.

  497. Anon-og says:
    @Art

    I think they are aware of the reckoning to come but they are timing it in conjunction with America’s upcoming economic collapse that they have helped to engineer. Netanyahu’s escalation/surge in settlement building is also not accidental, they are milking America while there is still something to milk all while building relationships with China and India. A war with Iran is the final act that will defeat their regional rival and neutralize an America who is on the brink of waking up to 9/11 and all the evil they have done.

    The plan is Pax Judaica when then Pax Americana falls apart.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Sam Shama
  498. Anon-og says:

    Pax Judaica To Replace Pax Americana Which Replaced Pax Britannica

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/pax-judaica-to-replace-pax-americana-which-replaced-pax-britannica/

    [MORE]

    Those who planned to replace Pax Americana with Pax Judaica began plotting America’s fall even before the demise of Pax Britannica. The seeds of America’s collapse were sown at a meeting of Rothschild associated bankers on November 22, 1910 when they drafted legislation to create the Federal Reserve bank.
    You might have noticed that President Kennedy who dared challenge the authority of the banking cartel was assassinated on the anniversary of the meeting that created the Federal Reserve. He was also killed because he opposed Israel’s acquisition of nuclear weapons and opposed enlarging the Vietnam war. Even in that day Judaica wanted America to enter the Vietnam war and to lose it to prepare the way for the downfall of America and the rise of the Jewish World Order.
    The seeds of America’s demise were planted by the Jewish banking system which allows the privately owned Federal to create money out of nothing and then through fractional reserve banking lend out 10 to 30 times as much as was originally created. This will in due time create an unpayable debt and interest burden which is designed to transfer all wealth to the banks. It also creates a Depression just like the one the world is now entering. In the last Depression three million Americans died from starvation between 1929 and 1939 according to the Russian demographer Borisov. As I have said before, this current Depression should be called the Greatest Starvation because I believe 9 million Americans will die of starvation without a banking reform that only a political earthquake could bring about.
    When this Depression is over, the Rothschild Criminal Network will buy everything for pennies in the dollar with money they stole from us.
    As we saw, 1913 was the year the seeds of the collapse of the American dollar were sown. In 1912 the president of a rabbinical association changed his political affiliation from Republican to Democrat so he could vote for Woodrow Wilson. He had heard from the Rothschild network what a good thing World War I would be for Judaica. In 1915 a Rothschild agent from JP Morgan told a group of Philadelphia businessmen that America would enter the war so the war would go past 1915. This is according to Ferdinand Lundberg’s classic America’s 60 Families. The war had to last until England, France, Russia and Germany went bankrupt making America the world financial center. It also made World War II possible.
    So we see Judaica betrayed America, England, France, Russia and Germany in 1912 and 1913 just so Israel and the worldwide Israeli Crime Network could achieve a Pax Judaica in the 21st century. The Jewish betrayal of America can easily be traced all the way back to November 22, 1910 and further if you include the assassination of President Lincoln.
    That betrayal continued from World War II to 911 and the present day. The German Army and Navy attempted to surrender in March of 1939 but His Majesty’s Jewish government refused. The New York Jew FDR had refused attempts by the Japanese Emperor to surrender and embargoed trade as the Zionist owned Teleprompter Reader is currently attempting to do to Iran. WW II made the Crime Network a lot of money, set up the very profitable Cold War, allowed the Jews of Russia to kill millions more believers and gave the Holy Land to a people who consistently mocked God.
    The Zionists and their allies in the American government gave Chins and North Korea to the Communists after WW II. This got tens of millions of people killed including American soldiers which is a good thing in the eyes of Jewish criminals. They continued this policy in Vietnam by killing JFK so America would go into the Vietnam war and lose. More Americans killed. More American resources wasted. All part of the plan to advance Judaica.
    America was also betrayed in 1994 with the passage of NAFTA (North American Free Trade Act) which sent 50,000 American manufacturing plants overseas. The only way left for Americans to make money was to engage in Jewish banking Bubbles in the Dot Com and Mortgage Backed Securities frauds. The Jewish control of America is so great that not one banker has gone to jail despite having stolen over 30 trillion dollars in the past two decades. Ben Bernanke created over 6 trillion dollars just to buy back fraudulent securities from Europeans so he could keep New York bankers out of jail.
    I should point out that the Talmud tells the Jews that it is perfectly permissible to rob the Gentiles as soon as the Jews get control of their government.
    Obviously, Israel did 911. Their Crime Network also blew up the Oklahoma City Federal building on 4-19-1995 killing 168 people including 19 children in the daycare center. The Zionist media covered up their crimes in both cases making them guilty of murdering more than 3,000 Americans in addition to treason and war crimes for misleading NATO nations into invading Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan.
    It is obvious that the Zionists want to time an attack on Iran to coincide with the collapse of the dollar. The Jews will want the Christians to blame their 30% unemployment rate and hyperinflationary depression on the Muslims.
    Ben Bernanke has created trillions of dollars which he swapped with the Europeans so I do not fear an imminent banking collapse. What is more likely to happen is that inflation in America which according to Shadow Stats currently is at a mere 12% will go up, up and away. That will force nations around the world to dump within the dollar within 16 months cutting American after tax wages in half discounting for inflation. I expect the Zionists to try and trick Iran in to firing the first shot.
    Will the Zionists succeed in establishing a Pax Judaica? I am certain they will fail.
    The US military does not want to attack Iran. They know they will die. The Iranians have 20 submarines with 327 kmh (223.7 mph) supercavitating torpedoes, lots of Mach 3 Russian made anti-ship missiles, 130 mile range (210 km) rocket artillery with 1,300 pound (600 kg) warheads and guided missiles with fuel air explosive warheads. The Persian Gulf fleet and US Central Command will be destroyed within 5 minutes of any foolish attack on Iran. The US military knows that. They also know Israel did 911. Israel sent live video feed of their attack on the World Trade Center to the CIA which Dr Richard Fuisz amongst others saw according to Susan Lindauer in her book Extreme Prejudice. Dr Alan Sabrosky who is of Jewish descent and taught at the Army War College has been telling his friends inside the military that Israel did 911.
    I do not believe the US military will attack Iran.
    Pax Judaica will expose Israel to the threat of 150,000 incoming missiles from Iran, Syria and Hezbollah if Iran is attacked. Pax Judaica has already exposed 70 million Jews outside Israel to accusations of treason.
    I had the title Pax Judaica and a general idea of what I wanted to write until I heard Mark Glenn interview Sheik Imran Hosein. His studies leads him to conclude that in the End Times an invincible Muslim army will arise out of Afghanistan its surrounding territory. Hint: Nuclear armed Pakistan is one neighbor. Iran which has a well trained military and allies in Iraq is on the other side. They can seize the Zionist states of Kuwait, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. They might be joined by the Turkish army after the civil war Sheik Hosein expects. His studies also indicate that at the End Times Russian Orthodox believers will help Islam in their struggle against the Zionists. Please note that the Jews killed over 60 million Christians when they ran the Soviet Union. He believes Gog of the Koran is the US and Great Britain and that Magog is Russia. His studies indicate that Pax Judaica will require the US to challenge Russia and China to a nuclear war and that few people will survive.
    As a devout Muslim, he believes in Mary, the Virgin Birth and that Jesus will return as Messiah. He agrees with me that the American Teleprompter Reader is black so the Jews can foment race and food riots nationwide as soon as the dollar collapses blaming it all on the black man in the White House.
    I will conclude with one of my favorite quotes from the Koran:
    They plotted but God is the wisest of all plotters.
    Author’s Notes: Sheikh Hosein is not responsible for any errors I have made. I do think he would agree with me that not all Jewish people are Zionists.
    Most of the above views have expressed by me in the past. I would hope this becomes a classic so I will cite more related articles than usual.
    5 Minutes To Self-Immolation Of The Israeli Empire

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/5-minutes-to-self-immolation-of-the-israeli-empire/

    The Bankers Want America To Lose World War III

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/the-bankers-want-america-to-lose-world-war-iii/

    Israel Shahak: The Laws Against Non-Jews In 2 Minutes

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/israel-shahak-political-consequences-in-2-minutes/

    Mr Wiesel, I Would Like To Ask You A Few Questions.

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/08/28/mr-wiesel-i-would-like-to-ask-you-a-few-questions/

    If You Do Not Learn Real History, You Will Be Dead Really Soon.

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/if-you-do-not-learn-real-history-you-will-be-dead-really-soon/

    25 Reasons To Absolutely Despise Bankers And Their Minions

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/25-reasons-to-absolutrly-despise-bankers-and-their-minions/

    The Greatest Starvation Begins Now

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/the-greatest-starvation-begins-now/

    911: Short And Powerful Questions

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/911-short-and-powerful-questions/

    I included a reference to the Islamic view of Gog and Magog.
    An Islamic View of Gog and Magog

    http://imranhosein.org/books/131-an-islamic-view-of-gog-and-magog-in-the-modern-age.html

    This is the interview that inspired me. I heard it on Mark Glenn’s podbean site here:

    http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/

  499. Sam Shama says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Woodchuck,
    Dick Cheney cares deeply for your well-being. He’s a significant shareholder of Dunkin Donuts.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  500. iffen says:
    @Sherman

    “90% of those Jews want to disappear the Palestinian people”

    That’s right, Arts.

    Probably no more than 20-30% of Israelis want to disappear the Palestinians.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  501. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    What about Ann Coulter, Jim Woolsey, George Tenet, Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich, Bill O’Reilly, George Will, Bill Gertz, Andy Rooney, Dick Cheney, GW Bush, Condi Rice, Donny Rumsfeld, and other Iraq ’03 cheerleaders?

    Yes they are all media whores – but we know who the pimps where – don’t we – JEWS!

    Israel First drove the Iraq war – one billion trillion words will not change that fact.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon-og
    , @Sherman
  502. Anon-og says:

    Why Is Goldman Sachs Funding the Violent, Racist Jewish Settlers of Hebron?

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.713790

    Goldman Sachs is funding Hebron settlers

    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/goldman-sachs-is-funding-hebron-settlers/

  503. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    Mr Wiki know-it-all watch the movie I posted earlier on Hassan. Its an unfiltered look at reality and doesn’t sugarcoat the Israeli doings either.

  504. @Sam Shama

    Why? Are there other theories?

    Yes, and you would do well to study them.

    As for the Patria, well, sheete happens, eh? As in scare the sheete outta them to motivate ‘em.(Even if it takes a conspiracy to break a few eggs for omelettes.)

  505. Anon-og says:
    @Sam Shama

    The NY Times is lefty? Come on Shammy Davis Jr., the NY Times is a major apologist for Israeli war crimes, a tad bit more clever than a CNN or a FOX. But look man, I’m not anti-Semitic, I read Philip Weiss’s and Greenwald’s work which I find fascinating and have actually learned a lot from the comment section at Mondoweiss. The amount of honesty that Jews allow each other impresses me.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  506. Anon-og says:
    @iffen

    If by disappear, we mean ethnically cleanse Palestinians, yeah about 50% of Israelis want that.

    https://972mag.com/ethnic-cleansing-poll-a-dangerous-sign-for-israel/117768/

  507. @Sam Shama

    Better yet why don’t you start a Ha’Aretz equivalent here? What’s preventing you? Exactly nothing!

    Sam, my man, (sorry, I can’t control myself) I see that you really have dumbed down yer comments.

    Nothing stops one from an enterprise of that sort?

    Did you read the article? If you did, need you need me to point out that one can’t even have an article printed without the approval of our masters? Do you have any clue of what happens when people even try to start something of that sort? Infiltration and perversion are the least of the realities they need to be concerned with.

    C’mon, bro, kick it up a notch, will ya?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  508. Anon-og says:
    @Art

    Do you recall the headlines in the Jewish press for February 21, 1991 :

    Iraqis Have Gas Chambers For All Jews

    Photographs and all, lol.

    https://onsizzle.com/i/jewish-press-75-war-news-iraqis-have-gas-chambers-for-13458582

  509. Sherman says:
    @Art

    Hey Genius

    “We know who the pimps where”.

    Huh?

    Shalom

    Sherm

  510. @Anon-og

    I think they are aware of the reckoning to come but …

    Well with the supposed vaunted and ethereal IQ and Nobel Prizes and such, you’d think some would learn by now, but…

    Nahum

    3 Woe to the city of blood,
    full of lies,
    full of plunder,
    never without victims!
    5 “I am against you,” declares the Lord Almighty.
    “I will lift your skirts over your face. [ed note: What a sight, eh?]
    I will show the nations your nakedness
    and the kingdoms your shame…

    19 Nothing can heal you;
    your wound is fatal.
    All who hear the news about you
    clap their hands at your fall,
    for who has not felt
    your endless cruelty?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  511. Anon-og says:

    The virtuous, honorable IDF, moral army of The Chosenites :

    Israeli forces shoot 11-year-old Palestinian in head with rubber bullet
    Not a single Israeli outlet covered the incident.

    https://972mag.com/israeli-forces-shoot-11-year-old-palestinian-in-head-with-rubber-bullet/130054/

  512. @Rurik

    I’m with Norman Finkelstein that the avalanche of lies and hysterical blood-libels against the German people diminish the true suffering that many Jews and others endured or lost their lives during that terrible time.

    bullpucky.

    How many times have you heard Finkelstein speak without bringing up “My mother’s family was wiped out . . . waa waa waa waa waa” He’s a whiner; a pathetic failed academic and second-rate ‘intellectual’ holed up in his dead father’s rent-controlled apartment snuffling for pity — and a gig — wherever he can find them. It’s how he makes his living.
    If Fink had a shred of intellectual integrity he’d excoriate the Jewish leadership that provoked a war that they knew would take so many lives — Polish Jewish lives — but they willingly made the bargain: “the price was worth it” — Jews got Palestine.
    He’d also grapple with the moral rottenness of those Jewish people who deliberately destroyed an entire nation, people and culture — the Germans — who had for nearly a millennia afforded security and prosperity to so many Jews.

  513. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon-og

    I think they are aware of the reckoning to come but they are timing it in conjunction with America’s upcoming economic collapse that they have helped to engineer.

    Anon-brain-in-fog,
    When and why is this upcoming American economic collapse to arrive? I need reasons and a date range. Try not to bullshit on this one, “man I am not an Antisemite, I’ve learnt a lot from Mondoweiss” man!

  514. @Incitatus

    Thank you for the allusive commentary, Incitatus. You seem to reflect the view that sarcasm and insult serve to endear the interlocutor to his audience, even as it reveals charming character traits of the speaker. Well done!

    Since you seem to be so attentive to S2C’s concerns, there are a few pressing situations that you might be able to help with:

    - I usually divide the peonies in September, but got busy with other things. Is it too late to divide and transplant the peonies?

    – The azaleas are a bit shaggy. If I prune then now, will they fail to flower in the spring?

    - Also, the azaleas have a lot of yellow leaves. Is this just the result of changing weather, d’ya think? Perhaps they need fertilizer?

    What do you advise?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Incitatus
  515. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    No need to control yerself, let it all out in the name of Om Shanty! Or something like that.

    This article is about PG getting sacked for writing something on the UR. Notice how Unz did not sack him. And TAC has the right to fire whomever they wish; these are at-will contracts. I needn’t agree with their decision to recognise the nature of contracts.

    But that is hardly the point I was trying to make: its tiring to hear the incessant “our masters won’t allow this or that“. Who were these masters which allowed whats his face commie Ezra Klein, with Kate Dailey and Laura McGann to operate Vox? I guess that shit-stirrer Yglesias is there as well. These guys are relentless. What about Puffington Post?

    I guess what I don’t understand is what prevents anyone determined and motivated enough to start a mag of their own design?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @RobinG
    , @jacques sheete
  516. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    What do want from him, Rodney?

    Do you want him to stop stereotyping?

    Everyone stereotypes. Are Jews not allowed to stereotype? You don’t hold Jews to a different standard, do you?

    You need to lighten up a bit. Wait, that’s not a good idea. What with you and the shining light routine.

    Forget lighten up. Chill.

    You don’t see me going sideways over the left-handed compliment he gave me and my peeps in #477. I thought that it was funny as hell.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  517. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I think he’d advise you to choose your fertilisers wisely.

  518. Art says:
    @Anon-og

    We are being forced in America to support Israel, our politicians are bribed and /or threatened and our news silences critique of Israel and innocent Palestinian victims are portrayed as the evil doers – all this in conjunction with nonstop Holocaust reminders to keep us blind to their crimes because they are eternal victims…truly the epitome of wickedness.

    Anon-og,

    The Jews have an actual defined method for achieving their control over people. It is called the Stockholm Syndrome.

    It works like this. Terrorists detain a group of people (say on an airplane). They tell the passengers that the reason they are doing this, is because they themselves are victims. The terrorizers induce fear and claim victimhood. The passengers then begin to sympathize and identify with the terrorists – they take up the cause of the terrorists. This is a real scientifically observed phenomenon – see Wikipedia.

    Jews capture and terrorize the elite of a culture by using the fearful inducing word “anti-Semite.” They claim victimhood by using the “six million lie” (holocaust). America’s elite live in absolute terror of those two words “anti-Semite” and “holocaust.” Those words control America.

    As long as those words can strike fear in our elite – Jews will control America.

    Think Peace — Art

  519. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    So you are saying that JEWS with there “ethereal IQS and Nobels” ought to listen to Ha-Nevi Nahum and give thought to the destruction of Nineveh at the hands of G’D?

    Ok.

    Notice Jews are Jews and no distinctions need be made per Art & Co. But yeah, to answer your question, most of the Nobel winners were German, with the exception of Barsh, who is Austrian and Polish.

    • Replies: @Art
  520. Talha says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hey Sam,

    Citing a person who worked for years as a paid Israeli intelligence asset – Shin Bet’s mole inside Hamas – doesn’t really cut the mustard if you are trying to bring in an objective source.

    A non-aligned human rights organization or something would be better.

    The fact that the Palestinian Authority is corrupt and part of the problem is well-recognized (even among Muslims). It’s one of the reasons why I roll my eyes when I hear about Palestinian statehood; great another corrupt Arab security regime that’s partially bankrolled by the West, yeah we’d love to have another one of those!

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  521. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    That was no left-handed compliment, Not a trace of sarcasm in it. I’ve found Evangelicals to be exquisitely informed about global affairs, Literature, American History, Science and general Philosophy exactly in contradiction to the usual Hillbilly portrait commonly pushed. Besides, never met a group more doggedly unwilling to relinquish their individuality.

  522. @Sam Shama

    Sam Shama
    455. http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-i-got-fired/#comment-2032475

    Criticism of Israel in and of itself is nothing to be concerned over, had it not been the case that people doing so are also rather fond of Holocaust denial, and generally ascribing all ills, perceived and real, to Jews.

    also re
    Fran Macadam
    16. http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-i-got-fired/#comment-2029423

    “What isn’t helpful, as well, are the commenters who clearly express genuine anti-semitic bigotry, who tar your own insights with their connotation of outright hatred of Jews and Holocaust denial by association.”

    If the holocaust (of Jews, one assumes) is an element of history, then isn’t it, or shouldn’t it be subject to the same sort of scrutiny and critical analysis as every other element of history, indeed, of every other aspect of human exploration?

    Why should exploration of that or any element of history be so very often linked with “bigotry . . . antisemitism . . . outright hatred of Jews?” Does an examination of the Napoleonic wars inexorably signal a hatred of Russians, or Corsicans, or Frenchmen?

    And Sam — how does stating those actions and assertions of highly influential Jewish persons, quoted by a Jewish author in support of his claims that Jewish persons and institutions were a major force behind
    – directly supporting Stalin and USSR in war against Germany;
    – gaining from USA major support for Stalin and USSR in war against Germany;
    – gaining nearly total control over media to disseminate propaganda to convince the American people to hate Germans and go to war against Germany;
    – managing the system of income taxation of working-class Americans; gradually increasing the rate of taxation; and legislating direct withholding of taxes to ensure a steady stream of revenue to finance the war that Jews propagandized the American people to join (against their better judgment) –

    These things are stated as real facts and events by Benjamin Ginsberg in his book, “How the Jews Defeated Hitler.”
    They are either true or they are not true.
    How does recounting what Ginsberg wrote signify “generally ascribing all ills, perceived and real, to Jews?”

    If those things that Ginsberg wrote are true, and if they brought about “ills,” then is it anything other than rational to conclude that those Jewish persons named were responsible for those ills that followed from their actions?

    On the other hand, Fran Macadam and Sam, if “holocaust” is a religious doctrine or dogma, why does my- or any other person’s “denial” of that dogma disturb your belief in it? In the USA, is any citizen required to grant assent to this, that or the other religious dogma or any other form of thought control?

    If I believe that my soul will spend time in Dante’ Purgatory until purified, then ascend to Paradiso, do I require your assent to my belief in order for my belief to have importance in my life?
    If you do not assent to my beliefs, are my beliefs somehow impaired thereby?

    If I “deny” your belief in a holocaust of Jews, in what way does my denial impair your belief in the dogma?

    Conversely, if you consider my beliefs so much intellectual hogwash, unsupportable by sound evidence and science, do I have a legitimate right and process to force you to reject your denial of my beliefs and instead believe in them yourself?

    Yes or no?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  523. @Sam Shama

    Hey Maven Sam,

    As long as Dick doesn’t bring his hunting buddies inside ‘Dunkin South Side Scranton, I’d feel quite secure there!

    Selah Real Jew News Cheney Netanyahu Alexander Hamilton on stage.

  524. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    I guess what I don’t understand is what prevents anyone determined and motivated enough to start a mag of their own design?

    Play It Sam – Sing “You Guilty”

    The answer is one word “advertising” – Jews control the advertising industry – say truthful negative thing about Jews/Israel and access is cut off to advertisers.

    Control of advertising is the major power that Jews have over America. No addies – no sellie!

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Ask O’Reilly.

  525. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    There is a magazine.

    WASHINGTON REPORT ON MIDDLE EAST AFFAIRS

    https://www.wrmea.org/2017-may/2017-may-table-of-contents.html

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  526. @Sam Shama

    I’ve had terrific results from the heavy soil in my part of the country when it’s amended with heavy doses of horse manure.

    But the azaleas are well established; they’ve absorbed all the horses%#t they need for a lifetime; they just need a booster of Hollytone.

  527. Sam Shama says:
    @Talha

    Hey Talha,
    Watch the movie I linked earlier, The Green Prince on Amazon. Look for the reasons he joined Shin Beth, his loss of everything he had in life including his family, his fraternal relationship with his Shin Beth contact and his current state in America. He speaks out, as are an increasing number of Pal youth who wish to live and prosper as Israeli citizens. There is a path for that and it involves letting go of the demand for “RoR”. It can happen and I hold a hope that the Donald might succeed in this effort.

    Shalom

  528. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    But yeah, to answer your question, most of the Nobel winners were German, with the exception of Barsh, who is Austrian and Polish.

    Play It Sam – Sing “You Guilty – We Victim”

    Now there is a distinction without difference.

    Jews have thrived in Western culture – why do you people destroy its underpinnings?

    Making the West Jewish – is destroying it.

    You Jews are major sick crazy.

    Think Peace — Art

  529. Sherman says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Hey Chuck

    What was that part again about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?

    :)

    Sherm

  530. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Thank you Philip for your courage. I respect anybody who is willing to stick their neck out the way you do. If things change, it will be because of people like you

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  531. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @leveymg

    “ignores the enormous variety of opinion among Americans of Jewish descent and within Israel itself.”

    No body ignores . It is just not effective. The different voices within the Jewish community is not new phenomena Has been here since 1890 But the voices that always have own over the rest were those of the maxiamalist , tribal racist, murderous , bigoted ,and fanatics stripe of the Jewish existence.

    The rest didn’t object,revolt,or silence them in any form or fashion.

    When push came to shove and when push comes to shove,the rest lined up and will line up behind the most ultra hawk racist militaristic wings of the Jewish society.

  532. @RobinG

    I’ll bet they won’t reprint my article Robin!

    • Replies: @iffen
  533. anon • Disclaimer says:

    All I see is the slow consistent persistent enduring replay of the British pain, experiences, sufferings, dashing of hopes ,and impotence to do anything against the real cause of those very realities .
    Great Britain was taken to the war , was forced to get mired in Palestine , was forced to suffer the ignominy of being beaten to death by the force who was nurtured promoted and was encouraged and who was given the protection by UK itself only few years before its final destruction by the same forces in Palestine and beyond .

    Now same force is doing exactly same things to USA.

  534. @SolontoCroesus

    speaking of re-writes –

    I regret having posted this attack on Finkelstein and wish it could be deleted. The personal attack was uncalled for, and I apologize.

    Finkelstein has taken courageous stands on the Palestinians, and for that should be respected.

    His positions on the wars in Europe, on the other hand, are just as lopsided as way too many others.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  535. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I regret having posted this attack on Finkelstein and wish it could be deleted.

    don’t regret it S2C, it turns out the Fink is a fink

    This is from a execrable piece of dissembling from Juan Cole’s web-rag

    Norman Finkelstien’s work, “Why the American Jewish Romance with Israel is Coming to an End,” Finkelstein “dismantle[d] the notion that it is ‘the Israel lobby’, rather than a hard-headed calculation of ‘national interests’ by U.S. planners, that dictates U.S. policy in the region. . . . Finkelstein’s analysis here is nuanced: he concedes that the Lobby’s ‘ruthless tactics in support of the Israeli occupation have subverted American policy on the secondary issue of the Israel-Palestine conflict’, but rejects the far-fetched notion that it was the driving force behind the 2003 decision to invade Iraq. ‘Many unflattering things might fairly be said of Cheney and Rumsfeld,’ he notes ‘but gullible and naive are not among them.’”

    https://www.juancole.com/2017/10/giraldi-controversy-mideast.html

    only a complete idiot and apologist for the ‘special relationship’ could pretend that the decision to destroy Iraq was anything other than neocon Jew’s

    by pointing out the goyim whores and stooges like Cheney and Rumsfeld as non-Jews, they dishonestly (and laughably) presume to lecture us that is was the goyim after all.

    no one but the most mendacious rat could possibly pretend that the wars on Iraq and Syria, etc.. benefited the American Empire, (as they call it) in any way whatsoever. In fact it has been a strategic catastrophe for America, and everyone knows it, even if it accomplished exactly what the neocon Jews wanted it to – the utter destruction of those Muslim countries that Israel considered inconvenient to its greater agenda, as will the pending destruction of Iran, for the exact same reason.

    wow but there is a lot of craven liars and intellectual whores out there, isn’t there

    fuck Fink the fink and his *obvious* lies

  536. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I shall start by observing that Purgatory has its work cut out when you make it there. As it likely does for the rest of us. Meaning, I am not frightfully persuaded by hyperbole meant to cast Man as either sinful or sinless. Its a rather Jewish concept called striking the balance. Come to think of it, sinfulness is really not an idea which enjoys much purchase among Jews. We like contracts by which Man must conduct his affairs, whether it is the Torah or the secular body of laws.

    To consider the claim that the Holocaust requires your considerable talents to unearth insights not previously discovered, I can simply wish you G’dspeed. With your able research assistant Wally at your side, you are destined to shake the foundations of that immense body of work which currently exists on the subject. It’ll be on the scale of General Relativity questioning Quantum Mechanics. You might even catch a glimpse of String Theory of denialism.

    Now, as to your convoluted and incorrect inference that Jews fighting Dolf – they were merely rising up against their own extermination; an inexplicable behaviour naturally in your world – was an ill, is anything but. That was an unqualified good.

    Ginsberg writes to dispel the notion that Jews were passive sheep led to the slaughter. Dolf’s saintly intentions, of course, were engineered on an industrial scale, but Jews resisted with all they had on the face of death. Certainly, they served in the Soviet army, primarily in the engineering corps instrumental in the development of the T-34; certainly, they were effective in providing President Roosevelt with the support and evidence he needed to censure Isolationism; certainly, they were key to the build of America’s Atomic bomb; certainly, they were deeply involved in cryptography and analysis critical to the Allies’ intelligence, and, not last, Jews were a firm fixture of the backbone of resistance movements taking asunder Germany’s supply lines.

    Dealing with the enemy requires no less and nothing less do Jews ever require of themselves, for themselves, and, for their friends and allies.

  537. chris says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Thanks for clearing that up regarding antiwar.com, Phil.

    I still hope to hear you interviewed on this topic by: Scott Horton, Tom Woods, or Alex Jones about your story and the ordeal which followed, but I’m not exactly holding my breath.

    The looming nightmare scenario of war with Iran which you’ve brought attention to with your article, is a very important story; especially the part about the people tirelessly pushing for it.

    Even if most people don’t seem to recognize it, we’re way on the road to war. As if the CIA and Pentagon have all studied: “The Art of the Deal” and are implementing Trump’s techniques themselves. The anti-Korea, anti-Iran, anti-Assad and anti-Russia hypes they’re concurrently hyper-bloviating about require only a small false-flag incident to set the wheels of war in motion.

  538. @Sam Shama

    I guess what I don’t understand is what prevents anyone determined and motivated enough to start a mag of their own design?

    Sam, we all know I’m an uneducated, low IQ, stupid, ignorant goy, but don’t you think that’s playing a little too obtuse even for someone as dense as me?

    Sam, yer into equines, no? In any case here’s one for you cuz your claim is pretty hilarious.

    One horse-laugh is worth ten thousand syllogisms.

    -George Jean Nathan and H.L. Mencken, Clinical Notes, The American Mercury, January 1924, p. 75

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1924jan-00075

    Can’t you just hear me hee hawing? Oh, wait…Oh well, you do get that point, do you not!??

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Sam Shama
  539. @Sam Shama

    I think he’d advise you to choose your fertilisers wisely.

    I’d advise that it’s at least as important to choose wisely the comments one responds to. Yours are exceptionally fertile fields, my friend! ;)

  540. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    they were merely rising up against their own extermination;

    Surely they weren’t aware of that yet? But I get your meaning anyway.

    The question is, when they (very understandably) opposed Hitler, did they do so honestly and openly? A similar example would be Catholics during the Spanish Civil War.

    sinfulness is really not an idea which enjoys much purchase among Jews.

    This is not really the best propaganda, you know.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  541. Anon-og says:
    @Sam Shama

    But Sam is there not so much to still unearth, not facts totally unknown to you and Da Jews but for the rest of the lowly goyim who are forced to accept a Spielberg produced version of things???????
    Here are some fun filled facts:

    “In 1938, a thirty-one nation conference was held in Evian, France, on resettlement of the victims of Nazism. The World Zionist Organization refused to participate, fearing that resettlement of Jews in other states would reduce the number available for Palestine.” (John Quigley, Palestine and Israel: A Challenge to Justice, as quoted in “The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict,” second edition, published by Jews for Justice in the Middle East, Berkeley, California, p. 21.)

    On 7 December 1938, during a meeting of the Mapai Central Committee (precursor of the Labour Party), David Ben-Gurion revealed his true feelings regarding the plight of German Jews: “If I knew it was possible to save all the [Jewish] children in Germany by transporting them to England, but only half of them by transporting them to Palestine, I would choose the second…” He attempted to explain his twisted reasoning by adding that he would make such a choice “…because we face not only the reckoning of those children, but the historical reckoning of the Jewish people.” Ben-Gurion also expressed his fear that “‘the human conscience’ might bring various countries to open their doors to Jewish refugees from Germany. He saw this as a threat and warned: ‘Zionism is in danger!’” (Tom Segev, The Seventh Million, Hill and Wang, New York, 1994, p. 28.)

    During another speech to the Mapai Central Committee on 7 December 1938, Ben-Gurion admitted that “in these terrible days of the beginning of the disaster that threatens European Jewry, I am still more worried about the elections at the [Mapai] branch in Tel Aviv.” (Segev, p. 105.)

    On 27 November 1942, the Yishuv newspaper Davar published an article that referred to the extermination of European Jews as “‘punishment from heaven’ for not having come to Palestine.” (Tom Segev, p. 98). As Ben-Gurion so callously put it on 8 December 1942, during a Mapai meeting: “‘They did not want to listen to us’ ….in their deaths they had sabotaged the Zionist dream.’” (David Ben-Gurion at a gathering of Mapai workers, 8 Dec. 1942; quoted by Tom Segev)

    That saving Jews from the Nazis was not the priority of American Zionists was clearly shown during the war. When President Roosevelt became aware of the dire circumstances of European Jews (who were thought at the time to be about 80% of the total number of refugees), he sent his close friend Morris Ernst (a key member of the Democratic party and leader of the New York Jewish community) to London during the middle of the war to see if England and the Commonwealth would join the United States and other countries in taking in a half million Jewish refugees through a generous worldwide policy of political asylum once Hitler was defeated. (Roosevelt felt he could sell the plan to the American Congress if Britain agreed.) Ernst returned home jubilant and advised the President that Britain agreed to “match the United States up to 150,000.” Roosevelt replied:”150,000 to England – 150,000 to match that in the United States – pick up 200,000 or 300,000 elsewhere, and we can start with half a million of these oppressed people.” One week later, however, the President informed Ernst that the program had to be abandoned because “…the dominant vocal Jewish leadership of America won’t stand for it…the Zionist movement knows [that it] can raise vast sums for Palestine by saying to donors, `There is no other place this poor Jew can go.’”
    Ernst refused to believe Roosevelt and went about seeking the support of American Jews for the plan. Their response shocked him: “I was thrown