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The twentieth anniversary of 9/11 has motivated some critics of the standard narrative to explore alternative explanations for what took place on that fatal day. To be sure, there has been considerable focus through the years on exactly what happened, analyzing the technical aspects of what made the twin towers and nearby Building 7, which is where the CIA Station was located, fall while also speculating over what actually occurred at the Pentagon and at Shanksville Pennsylvania.

The narrative under attack basically derives from the 585 page 9/11 Commission Report and from both media coverage and government press releases near the time of the event and ever since. The basic government approved narrative goes like this: Nineteen Arab hijackers, mostly Saudi nationals, acting under orders of Osama bin Laden, head of the terrorist group al-Qaeda, used box cutters and other implements to seize control of four commercial airliners. Two of them were flown into the twin towers of New York City’s World Trade Center, which collapsed from the damage, a third plane struck the Pentagon and a fourth plane crashed in Pennsylvania when passengers attempted to regain control from the hijackers. There was some debris from planes at the sites, but the bodies of passengers, crew and hijackers were largely consumed beyond recognition by the flames and intense heat. DNA samples collected at the various sites have, since that time, reportedly identified some of the dead. Building 7, which was not struck by a plane, caught fire from the falling debris from the nearby World Trade Center towers and the flames spread to such an extent that it had to be demolished to prevent endangering other adjacent buildings.

In support of the alternative theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition type explosions is the lack of any serious forensic analysis of the fragments of masonry and steel. The debris was picked up hurriedly and dumped at sea and abroad where it could not be subjected to chemical examination. That fact alone smacks of conspiracy.

Nearly 3,000 US citizens and residents died in the multiple attacks, remembrance of which became the driving force behind a Global War On Terror (GWOT) launched by the George W. Bush Administration. Recently released FBI documents have added somewhat to the standard 9/11 tale, conceding that the Saudi government and some wealthy individuals, possibly including the royal family, helped the hijackers both directly and indirectly, but there is no evidence to suggest that there was any direct involvement by Riyadh in the conspiracy, if that is what it was. Bear in mind that “no evidence” does not mean “not guilty” and there are still a number of Saudi related documents that are classified.

The first question that should be asked relating to “whodunit?” is “Who benefits?” The Saudis would have had no motive to carry out the attack in any event as the Kingdom was very much dependent on American support to survive in its current autocratic form. Unless al-Qaeda had some desire to harm or even bring down the Saudi state, for which there is some evidence, the benefit to the group and its leadership is difficult to discern unless 9/11 is regarded as little more than a gratuitous act of violence or punishment of Washington for its misdeeds in the Middle East. Bin Laden was reportedly in a Pakistani Army hospital in Rawalpindi having dialysis on the day before the attacks and may still have been under medical care, so the timing is curious if he was indeed one of the masterminds. Also, in his first recorded comment on 9/11, bin Laden’s immediate response was that he didn’t have anything to do with it.

That leaves two prime beneficiaries of 9/11, the state of Israel and a possible secret cabal in the US government made up mostly of neoconservatives that may have been tied to the Israelis and which wanted to use the American military might to remake the Middle East. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu openly admitted that Israel had much to gain from the US joining his country’s war against Muslim terrorism, saying that “It’s very good. Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [and] strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we’ve experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.” And, of course, in Netanyahu’s view, the attack was conveniently attributable to Israel’s enemies.

There is plenty of evidence that supports possible Israeli or neocon involvement so the next question becomes “What did they do and how did they do it?” In a recent groundbreaking article former CIA Senior Analysts and Presidential Briefer Ray McGovern explains how there was plenty of warning in US government intelligence and security circles of what was coming, but somehow people at the top seemed to block any action that might have mitigated or even prevented the attack. Even high-level dire warnings from friendly intelligence services in France, Germany, Britain, Italy and Arab countries were ignored. The persistence in avoiding any follow-up or preventive measures is far beyond the point where it could have been a coincidence and one notes the presence of Vice President Dick Cheney in the chain of command at the top of the bureaucracy who was known to have favored an interventionist defense policy and may have contrived to bring it about. Cheney, of course, had close ties to the neocons in the Pentagon and on the National Security Council Staff.

Ray notes that none of the identified Administration officials who were guilty of malfeasance over 9/11 were disciplined or fired. On the contrary, many were promoted with Under Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz as a prime example of someone who wound up as head of the World Bank. The failure to punish is a sure sign of a cover-up. I would add to that the fact that Israel was not even investigated during the preparation of the 9/11 Report in spite of the fact that it had a massive spy operation targeting Arabs underway in the US. Also, known Israeli intelligence agents “working” for a bogus New Jersey trucking company that may have been involved in deliveries of explosives and detonators to the WTC buildings on weekends and late at night were seen dancing and celebrating as the buildings burned behind them.

As for the WTC buildings themselves, they had conveniently been privatized by the owner, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which may have provided after hours and weekend access to them. The decision to privatize was reportedly due to recommendations made by commissions headed by billionaire Ronald Lauder, who was also President of the World Jewish Congress. This resulted in Larry Silverstein obtaining a 99-year lease on the Twin Towers in July 2001. Silverstein, several of his children and some of his senior managers were supposed to be in the buildings on the morning of 9/11, but for various reasons did not show up. Silverstein later benefited to the tune of \$4.55 billion from an insurance policy on the buildings, though he had sought \$7.1 billion, claiming that the policy covered “per incident” and there had been two plane strikes.

The case for Israeli active intervention on a political level is also extremely strong, outlined in the 1982 Yinon Plan and in the “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm”, which was prepared by a group of American neocons in 1992 for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Neocons in their foundational document the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) expressed the desire that the United States should experience a “some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor” that would motivate the country to attain “full spectrum global dominance” by means of military force. And to implement their schemes, Israeli diplomats, the Israel Lobbyists, and neoconservative largely political appointees were never in short supply on Capitol Hill. Many of the American Jews involved in the neocon network wound up in the Pentagon working for Paul Wolfowitz or Doug Feith’s Office of Special Plans. Others worked for Cheney or were on the National Security Council, all well placed to influence a crime and cover-up on a massive scale.

The final question “How did they do it?” results in a speculative response, but I would argue that if the Arab hijackers really existed, both Israel, which clearly would have known about what was coming, and the cabal in Washington, just “let it happen,” making it a version of a false flag attack. If they had prior knowledge that the presumed Saudi hijackers, most of whom they likely knew by name, would be taking over the airliners and crashing them into high value targets to include the WTC and government buildings in Washington, it served their purpose to not interfere and let them do it. And Israel had plenty of “friends” in the media and government to execute the cover-up. America would be at war forever in the Middle East and Benjamin Netanyahu would be smiling as his country’s enemies would be held to blame and punished severely.

My speculation might not be accurate in every detail, but I would bet it is a lot closer to reality than what has been peddled in the United States over the past twenty years.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. JLK says:

    The people with the ultimate control, at least at the time, authorized it. From the pattern of explosives in buildings 1 and 2 (top section was pulverized in waves of explosions bottom to top, bottom section top to bottom), it looks like they knew well in advance where the buildings would be hit and how. Coordination between the planes and demolition charges suggests the whole thing was methodically planned and implemented.

    So who was in ultimate control? GWB? Planning was probably in process before he even took office.

  2. Avianthro says:

    Two recent example cases that give us a feel for how the AlQuaeda could have wound-up, either by accident or intent, as a branch (at least effectively) of the Mossad and how US government agents sworn to protect US citizens from harm could have turned their eyes away from a heinous crime and its perpetrators due to “higher-level” political-ideological pressures, as well as just simply covering their own asses:

    https://wwmt.com/news/local/defense-attorney-fbi-agents-were-the-moving-forces-behind-whitmer-kidnapping-plot

    • Thanks: Agent76, CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @arami
    , @CelestiaQuesta
  3. Rurik says:

    Building 7, which was not struck by a plane, caught fire from the falling debris from the nearby World Trade Center towers and the flames spread to such an extent that it had to be demolished to prevent endangering other adjacent buildings.

    In support of the alternative theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition type explosions is the lack of any serious forensic analysis of the fragments of masonry and steel. The debris was picked up hurriedly and dumped at sea and abroad where it could not be subjected to chemical examination. That fact alone smacks of conspiracy.

    If they had prior knowledge that the presumed Saudi hijackers, most of whom they likely knew by name, would be taking over the airliners and crashing them into high value targets to include the WTC and government buildings in Washington, it served their purpose to not interfere and let them do it.

    does ‘let them do it’ include wiring the buildings for controlled demolition? (Obviously building seven).

    Faking the crash as Shanksville?

    The attack on the Pentagon, (That was not a passenger jet) ?

    Ordering the stand-down of NORAD and SACs?

    Destroying the evidence, as you point out?

    If they ‘let them do it’, why would they destroy the evidence?

    The whole point was to implicate Muslims as a pretext to wage war on Israel’s well-earned enemies.

    Why destroy the evidence of the crime they committed when it simply would prove to Americans and the world that Muslim terrorists must be crushed? At all cost.

    Unless it never was Muslim terrorists. Hmm..

    You’re a treasure Mr. G, but 20 years after the event, you really ought to show more gumption.

    Those 3000 Americans deserve it. Their families deserve it. The thousands and tens of thousands of other Americans that have died or been maimed, body and soul.. because of 9/11- deserve it.

    And the millions of innocent Muslims and others who’ve perished or seen their nations and their children’s hope’s destroyed, (and ALL of it due to the Zionist supremacist treachery and perfidy of 9/11) deserve it.

    As long as we pretend it wasn’t the corrupt Bush administration and assorted Jewish supremacists neocons and Zionists who perpetrated 9/11, then they win.

    And the rest of humanity loses.

    The stakes are very, very high, because if they get away with it, it will only embolden them.

    We need to find a way to hold them to account.

    We need, at long last, to start telling the harsh and momentous truth about 9/11.

  4. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:

    Will there be another attmpt on USA orchestrated by the same neocons? We still have the ghost of ISIS . USA is preparing the minds of Americans , BBC is raising same alarms for UK sheep that terorism originating again from Afghanistan is very likely . To prevent that terrorism, USA has decided with UK certain types of interventions- by pass Taliban, bring aids direct to Afghani, work with groups other than Taliban and use neighbkring countries like India to prevent and premptively attack Afghanistan.
    These actions will surely 1 Make Taliban paranoid ,angry,and lash out like stomping on the favorites ideas of the west and will bring more reactionaries . This will feed more into the cycle of ostracizing and isolating Taliban . That will make the country weak
    2 Weak Afghanistan will create opportunitues for ISIS .
    3 Groups that Anerica will work are either ex Ghani or ISIS . No other group is present there .
    4 NGO will offer plenty of spying.

    Now ,why USA will agree to copy Israel? It will to weaken China and force Pakistan fall in line .
    Israel has weakened ME . Now its USA’s to folow that recipie.

    To prevent a calamity of that proportion, China,Iran, Pakistan need to recognize Takiban and help militarily weed out ISIS and hunt down Massood- Saleh . These 3 also need to force Russia to join.

    Recent brnkmanship involving France,Australia UK and the submarine deal show to what extent USA will stoop . This also shows that tribalism – Anglo Saxon tribalism is back. China shoukd understand that its security is land based . It cant allow Afghan become American military outpost .

    At some level, American elite believe that USA could again ascend to the 1991 unipolar moment,if it can destroy China .

    ** ( Thus time,if achived ,it woukd be for next 20 years . The counyry will explode from within anyway by that time)

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @R.C.
  5. I just stumbled upon this very interesting and very credible short video about a witness who doubts a large aircraft hit the Pentagon:

    • Replies: @Alexander_UK
    , @JM
  6. Ghali says:

    The photo above does not show America’s most criminal Zionists. Where are, Alan Dershowitz, Richard Perle, and Paul Wolfowitz?

    • Replies: @Z-man
  7. How did they get away with it? The same way they got away with the USS Liberty attack.

  8. Mephisto says:

    Wonder how many of you prayed to Jesus after 9/11.
    Did it help?
    Just like Stockholm Syndrome on steroid.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
  9. Phil Giraldi,
    Perhaps the best way to dig deeper into “who benefited the most” from the 9/11 tragedy is to “follow the money”. Wondering how much money has been pocketed by the Zio-MIC and it’s agents who were roaming around in the governmental offices for the past 2 decades? All one needs to pay more attention to is the escalating annual budget for the military and the security apparatus for the past 20 years.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  10. arami says:
    @Avianthro

    The following is from the same racist zionist impostor whore on 9/11 where was designed and
    implemented by FBI (US) and terrorist state of Israel. This racist Hendi whore went to Iraq to kill Iraqi children to help the US and Israel’s plan in the region. She is a mass murderer.
    Only fools don’t recognize it.

    Tulsi Gabbard
    @TulsiGabbard

    Let us #NeverForget that it was the Islamist ideology which inspired the terrorist attacks and
    declaration of war against America on 9/11. And it is this Islamist ideology that continues to fuel
    terrorist attacks around the world and …

    3:08 PM · Sep 11, 2021·Twitter Web App

    Tulsi Gabbard Hibiscus
    @TulsiGabbard
    ·
    Sep 11
    Replying to
    @TulsiGabbard
    … is the foundation for so-called “Islamic” countries like Pakistan, Turkey, Iran, and Saudi Arabia’s discriminatory policies against Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, etc.

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/tulsi-gabbard-tries-defend-anti-palestinian-vote

    • Agree: Mike Fridelle, Druid55
    • Replies: @anon
    , @RobinG
  11. ‘…if the Arab hijackers really existed, both Israel, which clearly would have known about what was coming, and the cabal in Washington, just “let it happen,” …’

    I would also mention the possibility of various intermediate explanations — particularly given the massive Israeli espionage effort underway in the US at the time, and the equally impressive Neo-Con presence in the US government.

    The Saudis of al Qaeda may have carried out the attack alright — but who knows how much benign cover they got, what nascent investigations were quashed, how much advice was funneled to them via agents within their organization, etc? After all, those Islamic extremist groups were — and are — infiltrated by Mossad et al. Back before 9/11, my impression is that everyone was playing footsie with them.

    There’s no particular reason to see 9/11 as either fish or fowl — as necessarily either entirely al Qaeda or instead, solely Israeli/Neo-Con. Some hybrid is perfectly possible — and explains a good deal of the more definite evidence.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @frontier
  12. JWalters says:
    @Rurik

    Excellent points all. I suspect Giraldi is tip-toeing his way toward the final story, as are most public figures even willing to touch this story. It’s those Israeli assassins. I agree it was not a disconnected assortment of corrupt figures. It was highly organized. I believe the lines of financial control are reasonably accurately sketched in
    “War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank”
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    To the points raised by you and Giraldi, the first 9/11 Commission report omitted any mention of WTC 7 coming down. This is like having a murder scene with three bodies, and the official crime scene report completely omits one of the bodies. And it’s the body that’s the hardest to explain by the official lie.
    “War Profiteers and 9/11”
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-911.html

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Rurik
  13. ”Ray notes that none of the identified Administration officials who were guilty of malfeasance over 9/11 were disciplined or fired. On the contrary, many were promoted with Under Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz as a prime example of someone who wound up as head of the World Bank.”

    Shyam Sunders (head of nist) wife became vice president of the World Bank, and his daughter became managing director at Black Rock. Some gays have all the luck.

    About foreknolege, the danish primeminister said in à tv interview that he was informed 5-10 minutes before one of the towers fell down that it would come down. The clip of that is on the internet.

  14. Franz says:
    @JLK

    So who was in ultimate control? GWB? Planning was probably in process before he even took office.

    GWB was the one most likely to be totally out of the loop.

    911 benefited the Parasite Regime, the actual rulers of the world. Whether they rule from the London Banks or Jerusalem or Switzerland is immaterial. They decide, the little guys like Bush obey.

    The trillions mentioned at the Pentagon in September 10th — and never referred to again — is the giveaway here. The USA was having its strings pulled HARD that September and it was told to shut up and follow orders and it has ever since.

    The Parasite Regime was not really impressed with the morning body count. Since they were looking for “a hundred years” of war, they didn’t have to be. The corpses will pile up till ALL of us get hip to the fact that the Parasite Regime is global. It’s why every European country is anti-white. It’s why there is no freedom under “private” companies (Facebook) and why the Iron Heel* will come down harder as time progresses.

    Parasites hate the host, however irrational that might seem. They want us to think that we have to blow up the world to get rid of them.

    * The Iron Heel was what Jack London called them in his novel. London called himself a socialist, but everyone who reads Jack’s book ends up agreeing with him, at least on principle.

    • Thanks: Robjil
    • Replies: @anonymous
  15. Dube says:
    @Rurik

    You nicely dismiss LIHOP [Let It Happen On Purpose]. I wonder whether Phil will draw many more comments.

    • Thanks: Rurik
  16. “The stakes are very, very high, because if they get away with it, it will only embolden them”
    “IF” they get away with it ?
    Horse & stable doors, Mr Rurik…..

    • Replies: @Rurik
  17. //Building 7, which was not struck by a plane, caught fire from the falling debris from the nearby World Trade Center towers and the flames spread to such an extent that it had to be demolished to prevent endangering other adjacent buildings.//

    The above, listed by Giraldi under “The basic government approved narrative goes like this: ” is not the government narrative which I remember: building 7 collapsed _because_ of the fire.

    If the official narrative had included “had to be demolished,” then the government would have had to explain how the building could be demolished right away, in other words: why was building 7 already rigged with explosives.

    A minor point, perhaps, in the long list of obvious lies connected to that day.

  18. The final question “How did they do it?” results in a speculative response, but I would argue that if the Arab hijackers really existed, both Israel, which clearly would have known about what was coming, and the cabal in Washington, just “let it happen,” making it a version of a false flag attack.

    That’s a very long, tortuous sentence, Mr. Giraldi. I guess you don’t get any editorial help.

    Well, aside from that, the whole thing is a non-starter. What you’re outlining is some version of LIHOP (let it happen on purpose).

    Some version of LIHOP is probably correct wrt Pearl Harbor. They knew the Japanese plans and let it happen on purpose. However, in terms of 9/11, it can’t take you anywhere. You see, a LIHOP theory requires you to have a capable enemy (in the Pearl Harbor case, that is the Japanese military, obviously) that really does have the means, the capability of carrying out the attack.

    A LIHOP theory doesn’t work when your “enemy” is just a band of misfits who could really only serve as “patsies” in the plot. There simply is no fearsome terrorist organization called “Al Qaeda” that has remotely the capability to carry out the attack. Again, their only possible role in the plot would be as patsies.

    In fact, LIHOP is so ridiculous in this 9/11 case that it really must be deliberate disinfo. Why are you here trying to spread this kind of deliberate disinfo, Mr. Giraldi? Frankly, I find it rather offensive because it’s such an insult to one’s intelligence.

    • Thanks: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    , @anon
  19. Fully agree, Rurik.

    But when it comes to the American public, as Jack Nicholson famously said: “You can’t handle the truth!”

    Indeed.

    One must wonder if the American public, should it ever be confronted by irrefutable proof of participation in 9/11 of its ‘staunch ally’ Israel, would simply go into complete cognitive dissonance denial, as it usually does when confronted with uncomfortable and inconvenient truths. We can thank the MSM and the American educational system for that, as they are the two most critical brain washing tools of propagandists, both public and private. And soon the internet will be tamed and censored to the PTB’s liking, and that avenue of getting the word out on 9/11 will be lost.

    In short, things ain’t looking too good for widespread 9/11 truth or accountability, now or in the future, sad to say……

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Rurik
    , @Iris
  20. @JLK

    “So who was in ultimate control? GWB? Planning was probably in process before he even took office.”

    Long before, I strongly suspect…….

  21. Way of the World?

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  22. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    There is only one effective way to change the paradigm…

    The Empirical Demonstration.

    Rebuild Twins south of Moscow.

    Fly fully loaded 767’s into them every day for a week plus.

    As the World observes them standing, still, they will start to finally see what some of us did from 9/12.

    You will then see the Jews in a dead panic.

  23. onebornfree says: • Website

    Ok, let’s all spend another 20 years arguing about exactly how it was done, makes “sense” to me.😎

    “9/11 Truth: Lessons Learned?”
    https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/ep408:7

    “Regards” onebornfree

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @skrik
  24. Ace says:
    @JLK

    Amateurs guiding two large fast-moving planes to predetermine spots on the buildings is not plausible, even with a beacon.

  25. JessicaR says:

    I seem to recall reading that in either 2000 or early 2001, Israeli agents–possibly Palestinians who collaborated–were stopped in India while on their way to Pakistan. An Indian paper quoted speculation from an official that Israel would try to smuggle their agents into Afghanistan. Also, Israel intervened to get these Palestinians released.

    I have been unable to find a link.

    Does anyone recall this story?

    • Replies: @JessicaR
  26. chris says:
    @Rurik

    Those 3000 Americans deserve it. Their families deserve it. The thousands and tens of thousands of other Americans that have died or been maimed, body and soul.. because of 9/11- deserve it.

    And the millions of innocent Muslims and others who’ve perished or seen their nations and their children’s hope’s destroyed, (and ALL of it due to the Zionist supremacist treachery and perfidy of 9/11) deserve it.

    Absolutely Rurik !!!

    The stakes are very, very high, because if they get away with it, it will only embolden them.

    Yeah, the operation was only a partial success for them. They certainly managed to fool and bully the world into accepting the common explanation for 911, but so far, they haven’t achieved their main goals in the ME, to free up the Lebanon, Syria, Iran corridor, so they can expand into Lebanon and to dump the 5-6 million Palestinians. So we haven’t seen the end of this by a long shot.

    One topic missing in this great summary of 911 articles, here at Unz, in my estimation, is the whole anthrax hoax which immediately followed 911. I would think that that part of the operation may still be full of the perpetrator fingerprints,. And though it doesn’t directly support the 911 plot, the fact that such a plot accompanied 911 so closely, may illustrate more directly the depth of the overall plan and goals.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  27. Building 7, which was not struck by a plane, caught fire from the falling debris from the nearby World Trade Center towers and the flames spread to such an extent that it had to be demolished to prevent endangering other adjacent buildings.

    This is not the case, Dr Giraldi. WTC 7 came down later in the day of September 11, 2001. It would have been impossible to do a proper controlled explosion in the time available, if that was the official explanation.

    The actual official explanation is much more absurd.

    On September 11, 2001, the structure was substantially damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris ignited fires on multiple lower floors of the building, which continued to burn uncontrolled throughout the afternoon. The building’s internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires. The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered cascading failure of nearby columns throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm. This initiated progressive collapse of the entire building at 5:21:10 pm, according to FEMA,[5]: 23  while the 2008 NIST study placed the final collapse time at 5:20:52 pm.[6]: 19, 21, 50–51  The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first steel skyscraper known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires.[7][8]

    Yup. WTC 7 is the only known steel skyscraper to have collapsed due to uncontrolled fires ! The internal column had massive safety margins incorporated into its design. It is completely unbelievable that any fire would have the intensity to buckle it.

    Also, Silverstein was facing a massive bill for asbestos replacement in WTC 7. The destruction conveniently solved this problem, and he got massive compensation, rather than paying out massive compensation. Many people, including the late Donna Summer, complained of health problems, which they blamed on inhaling dust from the WTC blasts. With all those asbestos particles in the air, little wonder. Needless to say, there has been no proper scientific study on this problem. Surprise, surprise.

  28. Anonymous[833] • Disclaimer says:

    The hundreds of al Qaeda operatives that Washington ostensibly rounded up in Afghanistan and other locations throughout the world, including a couple of so-called “sheiks” who were waterboarded over a hundred times each…what relevant statements did they give, factual or fantastical, to stop the torture? Did any of them give reason to believe that Israel or American neocons were in any way in the loop? Did they provide any substantive evidence that they or their Islamist organisation was involved in this act in any way at all?

    I remember the news reporting a lot of hoopla about the “folks” we supposedly tortured at Guantanamo in pursuit of the “truth.” But what was the bottom line of that foray? Seems like we should have a lot more hard evidence for the official “cannon” to counterbalance the plethora of theories and technical analyses supporting the notion of an elaborate hoax.

    As we are reminded here, Bin Laden made the effort to refute the involvement of himself or his organisation in the attacks of 9-11-01. Purportedly, our US Navy Seals under the direction of President Barack Hussein Obama infiltrated Pakistan, executed Mr. Bin Laden and made away with a treasure trove of digitally-stored evidence of his many malefactions. It was supposed to be an intelligence bonanza. Did our analysts find ANY link between Bin Laden, al Qaeda and 9-11? If so, they’ve sure kept it all on the lowdown. Or was it all just porn?

    Bin Laden’s number one, Ayman al-Zawahiri, seems to have emerged from hiding and, according to the MSM, has been making guest appearances since the Taliban recently liberated Afghanistan. He’s looking tanned, rested and ready. Has anyone booked an interview with him to ask some penetrating questions that enquiring minds would like answered? As things currently stand, all the evidence when put together and assessed in terms of maximal probabilities all point to… one big clown show. Either that or one large flustercuck, no fries.

  29. LondonBob says:

    Only read the other day ardent Zionist A.B. Krongard was at the CIA as Executive Director at the time, it was his old firm that was linked to the put trades on the airlines.

  30. Congratulations PG on some quite Occamish thinking. There was so much information available to the CIA and FBI that did not reach the President in a way that compelled action that I give quite a lot of weight to the view that the prospect of a few hijackings and crashes that could be blamed on the Arabs would look very attractive to some highly placed neocons. Absolutely no need to blow up the buildings at enormous risk.

    If Larry Silverstein were given a tip off it might have been along the lines of “Larry, I know from the last million you’ve given and the next few millions we count on that you are a great and true Zionist. For that, I’m going to give you a tip. Remember 1993? If you are offered extra insurance if there is a terrorist attack, take it”. But it isn’t really needed. With the 1993 bomb in mind the terrorism premium could have been a perfectly sensible commercial decision that needed no prompting.

    Another point to make is that, from ObL’s point of view he was as much a winner as Israel. Getting America embroiled in Afghanistan, as it had been in Vietnam was a big win. He didn’t need to claim credit because his enemies had already made sure he got it. And he had to tell Mullah Omar that he wasn’t responsible so there was no chance he would be handed over to the US.

    I don’t know why you make anything of the fact that he may have been in a Pakistani hospital on 9/11. I know of no reason to suppose he had a hands on role after someone began to use bin Laden money to get the enterprise under way. (If Mossad was topping it up when there was a shortage of cash from ObL or other Saudis then ObL being largely hands off is even better explained).

    You will have noted, no doubt, that planning the demolition of WTC 7 completely spoils the conspiracy theory.

  31. dimples says:

    “I would argue that if the Arab hijackers really existed, both Israel, which clearly would have known about what was coming, and the cabal in Washington, just “let it happen,””

    If the buildings are prewired and stacked with thermite for demolition, then the logical necessity arises: that WTC1 & 2 ………..MUST……… be hit with a plane each. If no plane hits, then no collapse can occur, leaving hundreds of tons of thermite to be discovered later by Mr Plod. No rational planner would leave this absolute necessity to putatively incompetent Arab hijackers, who would not only have to carry out each hijack successfully but also successfully pilot the planes into the buildings at speeds greater than the nominal maximum velocities.

    Therefore “Arab hijackers+let it happen” and demolition (as proven by the collapse of WTC7) are not compatible theories.

    • Agree: Jonathan Revusky
    • Replies: @DanFromCT
    , @Rev. Spooner
  32. gotmituns says:

    Certainly, a controlled demo. Ninety nine percent sure the jews did with our govt. help. The “security” (think Phileppe Petit) is operated by a bunch of characters overloaded with minorities and that made it easy. Go in during routine maintenance, plant your charges and wait until everything is in place and then execute the plan. As far as the Arabs were concerned, they only were in on it to fly the planes into the buildings (building #7 is key to all of this) and be the fall guys. The reason was to allow US to invade Iraq, Afghanistan and now Syria to keep the Mideast unstable and unable to concentrate on bringing down israel. Very much like what the South Africans did, they destabilized the surrounding black nations with civil war and the SA govt. easily defeated the blacks who were trying to bring down the White SA govt. The only reason White SA lost was our sanctions putt on them. It’s the same game all over again with Israel.

  33. Why would anyone put explosives in the towers when they plan to fly planes into them? That’s Saturday morning cartoon villain stuff. “Here, we have a plan, but let’s make it a hundred times more complicated and a thousand times more likely that we’ll get caught, but with no actual significant benefit.”

    Makes sense!

    Weird how after 20 years you guys haven’t even addressed completely obvious questions like that. Too busy projecting fantasies of moustache twirling neocons and Mossad agents. It used to be normal to bring up “neocon” as a term of disrepute and everyone would agree, but you guys using it so much have primed people for a different reaction: the awkward look, the eye roll and the smirk.

  34. edwina says:

    if the pentagon was hit by a missile

    explain Barbara Olsen

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  35. How are we to believe that Israel was behind 9/11 when so many Jews died in the attack? Those who point to the Jews as the masterminds of all evil in the world are delusional.

    From the Cleveland Jewish News:

    First, leaders of New York’s Jewish community needed to get a sense of how many Jews were missing and presumed dead in the attacks. That task fell to Mordecai Dzikansky, an Orthodox Jew and New York City homicide detective, the Wall Street Journal reported.

    After sifting through missing-persons reports filed in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, he noted that about 1,700 listed the religion of the missing person. Of those, about 10% were Jewish.

    Using the 10% figure as a guideline, if an estimated 3,000-plus individuals perished in the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks, there may have been some 300 Jewish victims.

    But other factors might skew the results. For instance, Cantor Fitzgerald, the bond trading firm on the upper floors of the World Trade Center that lost some 600 workers Sept. 11, was reported to have a higher percentage of Jewish employees than would be expected from a statistical analysis of the population – even the New York City population.

    At the Pentagon, a rabbi who helped recover bodies estimated that 30 to 40 Jews were among the 190 killed there. The same rabbi, Menachem Youlis, also confirmed four Jewish fatalities on American Airlines Flight 77, the plane that hit the Pentagon.

    Four Israelis were killed. Alona Avraham, Daniel Lewin and Hagai Shefi were on the hijacked planes, and Shai Levinhar was on the 103rd floor of the World Trade Center at the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald, where he worked as a bond trader.

  36. Herald says:
    @Rurik

    The stakes are very, very high, because if they get away with it, it will only embolden them.

    And now Covid-19, but no arabs to blame.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
  37. The Israelis would have had no motive to carry out the attack in any event as the Kingdom was very much dependent on American support to survive in its current autocratic…err, any form.

  38. Robjil says:
    @Anonymouse

    Those who point to the Jews as the masterminds

    The Top Jews have no qualm about little Jews. That is the way it works.
    https://fort-russ.com/2018/09/israel-did-9-11-not-muslims-and-anyone-who-thinks-otherwise-18-years-on-is-an-idiot/

    Rabbi Dov Zakheim – Pentagon Comptroller who disappeared \$3.3 trillion and sent it to the usurping Zionist entity to pay for new warplanes that would be used in the slaughter of Palestinian and Lebanese innocents. Head honcho of Systems Planning Corporation (SPC) that manufactured the FTS (flight termination system) equipped under the fuselages of the planes that hit the WTC. Co-author of Rebuilding America’s Defenses, the mission statement of the neocon cabal that wanted a “New Pearl Harbor”, ran the Bush White House and called itself PNAC–where, for the record, every policy wonk involved in the barbaric wars launched in the name of 9/11 gathered and became signatories to Zakheim’s ravings. His Tridata Corporation covered up the domineering ‘Israeli’ role in the WTC false flag of ’93, which was considered to be a test run for the “real thing” 8 years alter. War criminal and arguably the architect of the whole September 11th shebang.

    • Thanks: Rurik
  39. cohen says:
    @Anonymouse

    “How are we to believe that Israel was behind 9/11 when so many Jews died in the attack”

    Very Simple: They could be on shit list of Lukud Party. How can you prove that those were Israeli. Remember HoloHox. You guys made it and people believed it in the beginning. Thanks to the internet and collapse of USSR more information is available.

    People can see themselves, Eli Wiesel Auschwitz the super start without any Tattoos (where is the beef). No mention of gas chambers in his first book and then he remembered and put it in 2nd edition years later.

    Israeli Intelligence cannot pull out such big operation without orders and support from Master of the Universe.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
  40. gotmituns says:
    @Priss Factor

    That movie/book was just a bunch of jewish BS.

  41. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    It could have been a Manhattan Project . Fifty thousands people were inovolved from the diggers of the soil to the transport crews bringing cements to the top 7- 8 scientists but only few at the top knew what to be produced .
    Were Hijackers blackmailed? They were pretty party type smocching and cavorting with prostitutes .
    Were Saudi contacts duped into thinking that the plan involved hijacking and threats until certain demands were met ?

    Was it just a regular plan of hijacking which was hijacked itself and changed by Israelis?

    Taking over and guiding planes from ground were already available from early 90s.

    so many muslims were rounded up but not one provided any information on 911 because it was not done by them

  42. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymouse

    Jews have killed Jews and Ben Guiron woukd have done so again to get Israel established .

  43. cohen says:

    Hello 123

    Where are you hiding? I am waiting for your answer on the Rabbi who won the debate with God (Talmud).
    Can you post some information about the genius. And above all what was the debate all about. Killing innocent Palestinians (no Jews) and grabbing their land?. Since the Rabbi convinced God so the Israeli a have a blank check for their inhuman actions.

  44. @cohen

    > Israeli Intelligence cannot pull out such big operation without orders and support from Master of the Universe.

    This is delusion on stilts. If there is a Master of the Universe, who is he? How did he become Master of the Universe? Is he a Jew or is he just manipulating them? Absurd questions but to some commenting here they make perfect sense.

    • Replies: @cohen
  45. Contraviews says: • Website

    An plane crashing into a reinforced steel concrete building could never have caused such a complete devastating damage, practically pulverising the building. That’s simply impossible and not difficult to understand. Planes have been flying into high rise buildings before, such the Empire State Building by a B25 bomber in1945 and was open for business again the following week. Same happened in Milan, the Pirelli building which did not come down. All the three WTC buildings were blown up with pre-wired explosives. There is no other explanation. It’s even not certain wether the buildings were hit by planes. If so they may have been loaded with explosives, remote controlled etc. All the pictures we have seen so far never showed the planes colours and markings, which must have been seen by many people on the ground. A low flying plane makes a hell of a noise and must have made people look up in the sky. There does not exist any evidence of this.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  46. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mustapha Mond

    If Americans can handle the truth about the Jews and the things they’ve done, Americans can handle the truth about UFO’s and space aliens, including a version in which the Jews are really alien creatures from outer space. How better to explain their arrogant disdain for all other humans?

    • Replies: @Mustapha Mond
  47. The basic government approved narrative goes like this: […] Building 7, which was not struck by a plane, caught fire from the falling debris from the nearby World Trade Center towers and the flames spread to such an extent that it had to be demolished to prevent endangering other adjacent buildings.

    Um, that is NOT the basic government approved narrative. The government approved narrative does not include any deliberate demolition of Building 7, which would have been impossible to do, anyway. You, Mr. Giraldi, can’t even keep your narratives straight. Perhaps that shouldn’t be surprising given the fact that the 9/11 Douchers have spent the last 20 years polluting the mindspace with hallucinogenic nonsense like controlled demolitions, no planes, holograms, and mini-nukes.

    Thus, history disappears. It only took 20 years for people to not only forget what really happened, but to forget and/or deliberately obscure who said what about what happened, and when. I have lived to see a major event converted into fable right before my very eyes. It certainly hasn’t improved my faith in humanity.

  48. @Pelayo

    Buy a Geiger counter and take it to ground zero. Report back what you find.

    • Replies: @GMC
    , @Iris
  49. @Contraviews

    The Empire State Building was of a completely different design than the twin towers. The aircraft that hit the building, a B-25, was also much, much lighter than the Boeing aircraft that hit the twin towers. The upper stories of the twin towers were not properly fireproofed.

    Part of the structure was a curtain wall supported by a series of small steel members that could be easily penetrated by an aircraft heavy with fuel for a transcontinental flight. The weight of the aircraft, over 200,000 pounds, had more than sufficient momentum to allow the aircraft to penetrate the outer curtain wall of the towers. The fuel fires were of sufficient temperature to weaken the remaining steel by more then 70% because of the improper fireproofing. Once the story where the aircraft hit collapsed on the side of the strike, the buildings came down because of the increased stress on the next story below. Thus the domino effect as seen in the video showing the collapse. The twin towers did not collapse into their own footprint.

    NYC has two major airports and aircraft are very often seen above the city. Having lived near both commercial airports and busy Air Force bases, those noises simply become part of the background of every day life.

    The claim the twin towers were brought down by explosives does not match what is seen in the videos showing the collapse.

    • Disagree: R.C.
  50. Z-man says:
    @Ghali

    Drop Wolfowitz and add Bill Krystol.
    They should be drawn and quartered.

  51. “The debris was picked up hurriedly and dumped at sea and abroad where it could not be subjected to chemical examination.”

    This is the first time I have read this anywhere and that goes to show you that how deeply the MSM is embedded with the Deep State, whatever that is!

  52. Something I rarely see discussed, here or elsewhere, is WTC6, an adjacent building which suffered some extreme and very strange damage. As you can see in this image, Building 6 has formed something of a crater, its central mass missing in a ‘pit’ that descends right to the ground-level.

    https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/37524ba299f89adf1-jpg.3255/

    It seems the building blew up! More here: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/wtc-6-what-happened-there.1809/

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Iris
    , @Sparkon
  53. profnasty says:
    @JLK

    Yawn. This 911 story is rag eared.
    Who faked the Penn crash?
    Who hit Pentagon with cruise missile?
    Who stopped Military defense?
    We know ((Who)). It was Billionaires above High-Command who ordered it. Petty military and political henchmen who perpetrated it.
    They got away with it.
    Now CovidCon. The enemy is US.
    Divide and destroy, (They) are experts.
    Putin stands up to billionaires.
    POTUS never will.

  54. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    You were a DO panjandrum. How well did you know Blee? Was he a neocon? He looks more like a standard dynastic CIA ultra to me. He got his job because his daddy purged Angleton, purported Jew State traitor. He delegated his torture tasking to Uzbekistan, not Izzies.

    https://covertactionmagazine.com/2021/09/13/the-twenty-year-shadow-of-9-11-part-2-why-did-key-u-s-officials-protect-the-alleged-9-11-plotters/

    Calling these guys neocons is PBS Frontline level pap. In the PBS style guide neocons means busted CIA pukes.

    • Replies: @Occasional lurker
  55. Lysias says:
    @Ace

    Andreas von Buelow already argued in a 2003 book that the 9/11 planes were being remotely controlled.

  56. skrik says:
    @onebornfree

    Thanks for the tip, but possibly a better URL:

    https://www.corbettreport.com/lessonslearned/

    One can get MP3, MP4 – or [gasp!] a TRANSCRIPT. rgds

  57. On December 1st, 1984, a remote controlled 4 engined transport jet took off from Edwards AFB, CA and crashed into a barren patch of nearby desert. This Controlled Impact Demonstration was a joint R&D program by the FAA and NASA.

  58. The attack on the WTC was done by Israel and traitors in the ZUS government and blamed on the arabs to give the ZUS the excuse to destroy the middle east for Israel and their greater Israel agenda.

    No planes were used and the pentagram was a prewired expolsion and to see how the 7 buildings of the WTC were destroyed by DEW’s ie direct energy weapons go to drjudywood.com and wheredidthetowersgo.com.

    Congress aka the lower house of the knesset knows who really did it but are scared to death to say anything and every thinking America knows the truth, Israel and The Project For a New American Century are the elephant in the room.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  59. dimples says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I have sometimes wondered about this myself. The answer is that just flying planes into buildings was judged to be not spectacular enough to produce the desired propaganda effect. Not enough people would have died, the simple enough repairs to the towers would ease the psychological damage to the American cattle too quickly.

    Collapsing the towers creates the mega-spectacular century-defining effect, an entire city block destroyed, and also on the side gets rid of the asbestos replacement problem. Lucky Larry must have thought all his birthdays had come at once when he was made this particular clandestine offer.

    Consider the crash into the Pentagon, just some minor damage to one or two of the rings and a hundred or so dead. What would have been the propaganda effect if the entire Pentagon had disappeared into a pile of rubble and several thousand officers died? A great deal more but of course the generals would not have allowed that into the plan.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  60. @Anonymous

    You might be right:

    https://the-take.com/watch/what-is-the-origin-of-the-vulcan-hand-greeting-in-star-trek

    But then again, you can’t believe everything you see on TV, can you……..

  61. Cking says:

    Dr. Julia Wood’s ‘Where Did the Towers Go?’ presentation on the destruction of the 9/11 WTC buildings is informative, blowing away ‘the Saudi’s, armed with box cutters, takeover did it’ narrative.

  62. The debris was picked up hurriedly and dumped at sea and abroad where it could not be subjected to chemical examination. That fact alone smacks of conspiracy.

    Yes it does.

  63. @Rurik

    See Comment #19, above. I thought I hit “REPLY” to your post, but apparently it was an original post by me. Ooopsies.

    It was late. I was tired. Regardless, I agree 100% with you.

  64. All US senior rank govt personnel are guilty of either planning assisting or carrying out the attack on behalf of Israel, or of continuing to block an honest enquiry.
    Their guilt extends to this very day.

    Everybody knows the official “report” is a crock of shit.

    None of your so-called government is worthy of any respect, Americans.
    Quite the exact opposite in fact.

    Your Jewish president LBJ set the precedent ref USS Liberty.
    That precedent has been followed ever since.

    • Agree: Cking, Druid55
  65. Dr. William L. Pierce spelled it out brilliantly in this piece. Horrifyingly, it was 20 years ago. A lot more serious damage has been done since then and it is now more than apparent. It also gives factual information about Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, and how she discovered that Jewish operatives within the FBI were compromising investigations by ‘Incorrect or misleading translations being sent to agents in the field and translations were being blocked and circumvented.’

    She went right to the top with her findings and whaddayaknow-she was fired for being disruptive.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/09/wlp86-william-pierces-last-broadcast-mossad-and-the-jewish-problem/

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  66. anonymous[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franz

    Good points. It should be pointed out that, on their own lights, as many of Eretz (Greater) Israel’s population, the Jews, reside in the United States as in Israel proper, with the important distinction being that the money is here and, therefore, so are the decisions and acts of treason. Israeli sources themselves estimate as many as one million Israeli passport holders reside in the US, which only a fool would imagine are not either active or sleeper espionage agents.

    A since-disappeared article in Foreign Affairs that had been repeatedly cited here in the past gloats over Israel’s secret negotiations behind America’s back going on years and for the express purpose of replacing the US with China in a new techno-medico hegemony over the world. The article ends with the mockery of Palmerston’s quip that nations have no permanent allies, only interests and suppresses the fact that without the active participation and cover up by the Jews as with 9/11, such treason would have resulted in prosecution long ago.

  67. DanFromCT says:
    @Mephisto

    Just like the Stockholm Syndrome on steroid.

    Since English isn’t your first language, what is it? I’d guess it’s modern Hebrew and you’re writing from Israel based on your parading your hatred of Christian Americans in what you imagine is cleverness. Oy vey, you’re so shmart and clever, speak some algebra for us next time.

  68. That is not the official WTC 7 story. The official story is that it fell due to fire which warped a beam to the point it slipped and the whole building came down.

    What you said was a better cover story, butbit is not their cover story and I think you ought to know

  69. tanabear says:

    There is one interesting and horrific aspects of the attacks that is rarely discussed. The World Trade Towers weren’t just demolished, they were completely pulverized. This just doesn’t include the building contents but people as well. There were over 1,100 people where not a single trace of them was ever found; the bone fragments of some were found on the roof tops of adjacent buildings. The extreme heat beneath ground zero burned for over 3 months. Concrete even melted and fused with molten steel to create what is called a “meteorite“. This was obviously extreme overkill on the part of the perpetrators, but did this all have some sort of cabalistic meaning.

    What was the 9/11 terror attack about? Well, from out vantage point it was a terror attack, but from the point of view of the perpetrators it was a sacrificial rite. The 9/11 attacks were a holocaust in the true meaning of the word as a ‘burnt offering‘. It is a religious rite where an animal, often a goat, is completely consumed by fire. Instead of an animal, people played the role of the sacrificial lamb. It brought one age to an end and ushered in a new one.

    • Replies: @Kapyong
  70. Maddaugh says:

    How did the perpetrators do 9/11 ?

    YAAAAAAAAWN !!!!

    Don’t really know, don’t really care !

    There are enough of these WhoDunIt 9/11 articles to provide the 8B inhabitants of the world with shit paper for the next 200 years.

    Each and every one of us, using our Grade 1 common sense knows that the official version is bullshit. To this basic belief we add our own observations, the floors are X feet thick, the supporting beams need Y temperature to melt, the building did not buckle it fell etc etc.

    Get real and deal with it, We will NEVER really know what happened. People 100 years from now when we are all dead will probably find out and say “What towers?”.

    The topic is now becoming a bore. We are running in circles ! We need to move on !

    • Replies: @RestiveUs
  71. GMC says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    No need for a geiger counter – they named it ground Zero – which automatically says its a point where a nuclear explosion took place.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  72. DanFromCT says:
    @dimples

    If Building 7 was pre-wired with nano-thermite and other explosives as were the Twin Towers, its inner core in the sub-basements taken out at more or less the same time as the Twin Towers’ inner cores, as reported by Barry Jennings and others in Building 7, it follows that it was intended to come down more or less at the same time as the Twin Towers. But there it stood with a few smoldering fires luckily providing the excuse. Something had to be done. As Silverstein, unambiguously referring to demolition, later confessed, “We decided to pull it.”

    Building 7, which most Americans have never heard of thanks to the cover up by Fox News and the MSM, was demoed at 5:20 in the afternoon, 20 minutes after Jane Standley of the BBC announced its collapse while the building was seen over her left shoulder still standing. This delayed demo was probably the result of the modified, passengerless jetliner having to be shot down over the woods near Shanksville during the morning once it began responding erratically to remote control and could not be redirected to its intended target, Building 7.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  73. EuroNat says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Why would anyone put explosives in the towers when they plan to fly planes into them?(…) Weird how after 20 years you guys haven’t even addressed completely obvious questions like that.

    Honestly, I do not know. And neither I nor any other 9/11 fairy tale skeptic have to address *any* of your questions. You simply got that wrong, and this childish entitlement of yours is quite amusing.

    The problem with not buying – partially or completely – Official Explanations is, skeptics almost always fall in the trap of speculating why or how this or that happened. This undermines their credibility, for they cannot prove any of it.

    But really, we should just stop doing that. It is not necessary. Let us not be afraid to simply say “I don’t know”.

    For instance, I don’t have to know every detail on how a conman plans to rip me off. If the story he tells me is inconsistent enough, and his behaviour has raised enough red flags, I will just cut him short, stop trusting him and will recommend people I care about to do the same.

    This works not only for conmen, but also for just about any storyteller, including government reps, “experts”, journalists, salesmen… you name it.

    The following red flags were critical enough for me to become a skeptic:

    1.-Happy Israelis arrested driving vans sprinkled with explosive residues. Seen days/minutes before 911 attack in the filming location by witnesses.

    2.-Nano engineered thermitic material found in dust samples

    3.-University of Alaska Fairbanks paper claiming fire could not have been the cause of WTC7 collapse

    But the thing is, the 9/11 Official and Kosher Fairy Tale has so many more plot holes, inconsistencies and raises so many more red flags. It is like one of those laughably bad Hollywood movies. I just could not buy it, even if I’d try to force myself to. It is like something clicks in my brain: once it clicks, I will need very good explanations and arguments to go back into buying mode. The USG should at least go full transparency mode. I wont be holding my breath.

    Yeah, too laughable, not buying it. At least not everything. But how could anyone buy into this narrative, after considering *only* the above three points?

    To my amazement, so many people not only do buy into it completely, but they go on to ridicule, insult and shun anyone who sensibly does not buy into the obvious fairy tale. It is fascinating.

    • Replies: @Zorton the Cruel
  74. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Something as carefully planned and executed was a long time in the making. It had to have been a collaborative effort and the US didn’t just ‘let it happen’ but contracted with Saudi intelligence to make it happen. Airline pilots have commented how the skill level of the hijacker pilots had to have been brought to a very high level to accomplish what they did, not something some guys who couldn’t master flying simple prop planes could do. Only a state with its resources could provide secure training like that. In addition, the training wasn’t like conventional training pilot candidates receive but went beyond that: flying a passenger jumbo-jet at speeds way beyond the redline limits, turns and descents not normally done, being able to hit the towers at such speeds, being able to turn off the transponders and auto-pilot mechanisms, etc etc. Professionals taught them. A lot of Saudis flew out in the days after with US govt help. The whole thing is rotten top to bottom.
    Building 7 “had to be demolished”? I thought the official narrative was that it collapsed from the fires on some floors. Doesn’t it take some time to inspect and plan out how a controlled demolition is to take place for such a large building? Certainly more than some hours, especially when there are some fires going on.
    9/11, the greatest money and power grab in US history. Trillions diverted from the treasury, Homeland Security comes out of a drawer, spying and propaganda as never before. Who benefits? The corporate/billionaire class as money and power flows upward and the proles are increasingly monitored and controlled.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  75. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Rurik

    Destroying the evidence, as you point out?… Why destroy the evidence of the crime [Muslims terrorists] committed when it simply would prove to Americans and the world that Muslim terrorists must be crushed? At all cost.

    That in and of itself implicates the entire policing and oversight apparatus of the Federal Government, which is paid to investigate and prosecute crimes against the American people.

    Why did it stand down? Because it knew ((Jews)) did it, and if you criticize ((Jews)), you’re a Amalekite-Nazi-Islamofascist-Antisemite-Deplorable-Terrorist. The Feds say so.

    People, we are living under ZOG. And most Americans don’t give a rat’s ass unless it starts affecting their bottom line. We’ve become a nation of anti-Christ sociopaths, just like the ((Jews)).

    Any “Christian” who refuses to see the ZOG conspiracy staring him in the face is no Christian, and dare I say, not even a human being. Any “secularist” is even less than that.

    The funny thing is, these dogs know what they are, but like the animals that they’ve become, are too dumb and greedy to care. They’re busy fighting over scraps from ZOG’s table, just like subject Palestinians.

    Moses did nothing wrong. Jesus Christ did nothing wrong. Germany did nothing wrong. Except in the warped psychopath brains of ((Jews)) and their stooges.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @JWalters
  76. @Desert Fox

    No planes were used!
    Actually you are correct. Those were drones in the shape of planes Manufactured in Israel.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  77. @Triteleia Laxa

    The plane strikes were not a guaranteed kill of the towers. And according to firemen on the 80th floor — they weren’t.

  78. Zumbuddi says:

    Jamie Raskin (far right) looks like reincarnation of Chico Marx

    About the War Profiteer history: (JWalters, @ #2) good as far as it goes, but does not go back far enough. It is Very Revealing to read about Jews in Poland before WWI.

    All the evil they did to Poles (and Russians) for 100 years and more they carried with them to US & Palestine.

    And their entry into US esp. around WWII was just as forced & almost as violent as their entry into Palestine. It was certainly manipulated, the result of cunning and conniving.

  79. @EuroNat

    Ain’t nobody in any of these comments “getting it wrong”. Fully 50% of the comments are Jews lying full blast.

    It’s like a Hasbara company picnic.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  80. Jon Chance says: • Website

    If the Supreme Court had “elected” Gore-Lieberman during Election Fraud 2000, do you think the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service (ISIS) would have canceled the attack?

    https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ICTS.html

    All 9/11 Airports Serviced by
    One Israeli Owned Company

    It’s one of those times when an innocuous comment in an unrelated news report triggers a revelation.

    In the article at

    http://afrocubaweb.com/news/israelispying.htm

    there is the following paragraph:

    “To make the situation worse, a private security company called ICTS, owned by an Israeli, Ezra Harel, and registered in the Netherlands, was employed at Charles de Gaulle airport to screen passengers boarding US planes. Most of its personnel are ex-Shin Bet officers. The company covers security at Boston’s Logan airport, where the American Airlines plane came down after flight attendants and passengers overpowered Reid.”

    [MORE]

    The point of the article was that ICTS knew shoe bomber Richard Reid was dangerous, but allowed him on board a flight from Tel Aviv to Paris. Maybe they did and maybe they didn’t. But the idea that an Israeli owned company had inside access to the airport used to launch an abortive terror attack brought to mind the strange message Odigo Systems, another Israeli owned company with offices near the World Trade Towers, received that warned of the impending attacks before the hijacked planes had even left the ground.

    Then there was the story of crotch-bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who was allowed to board Northwest flight 253 from Amsterdam on Christmas Day 2009. And again, gate security that allowed him to pass was ICTS!

    So, I went back to another story that had surfaced briefly, reported at http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26626 about how at least one hijacker had smuggled a GUN aboard one of the hijacked planes. Even prior to 9-11, getting a gun on board a passenger plane represented a serious lapse of security. I wondered why this story of a gun was being concealed behind talk of box cutters and screwdrivers.

    Then I went back to the first article and its mention that ICTS handled security at Logan International Airport, from which two of the 9-11 hijacked planes had departed.

    Sure enough, a visit to ICTS’ own web site at http://www.icts-int.com/ confirms that ICTS is in fact an Israeli owned company, and that it sells services to every airport from which the hijacked planes operated, including security, sometimes through wholly owned subsidiaries like Huntleigh USA Corporation.

    It has been suggested that the incredible feat of hijacking four aircraft without a single arrest at the gate would require the resources of a nation-state. This is even more true with the revelation that at least one gun had managed to be aboard a hijacked plane. One company had automatic inside access to all of the airports from which hijacked planes departed on 9-11, and to the airports used by Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. An Israeli company. One that Mossad agents could easily find employment with without the management knowing who they were or what their purpose really was.

    But one thing is clear. By virtue of the Odigo warning, someone knew enough about the planned attacks to warn Odigo before the planes had even departed the airport gates, yet they did not call the Israeli security company at the airports which could have stopped the flights from leaving.

    Think about that one for a while.

    Hours before the House version of the first Patriot Act went to a vote, “technical corrections” were inserted into the body of the legislation whereby foreign security companies such as ICTS-International would be immune from lawsuits related to the events of 9/11. Talk about not being available for deposition! This “Patriot” act legislative sleight of hand occurred before the inception of the 9/11 Commission when Fearless Leader George W. Bush was still resisting the very IDEA of an investigation into 9/11. Hence, in the face of an institutional cover-up, citizens were denied the possibility of a discovery process which is normally afforded to litigants. Without such discovery process, ICTS-International would never be compelled by a court of law to give testimony and show evidence related to the missing airport video surveillance tapes of 9/11 or any other aspect of security measures in place on 9/11. [rense.com]

    “Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.”
    US official quoted in Carl Cameron’s Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

    “Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying … is considered career suicide.”
    Carl Cameron, as quoted in The Spies Who Came In From The Art Sale

    “While I agree with you, if I say anything about US geopolitical interests with Israel, I might as well clean off my desk.”
    Unnamed reporter as quoted in American Media Censorship and Israel

    See also: Israel and 9/11 – Index of What Really Happened

  81. @Ace

    I don’t know about “predetermined spots”, but hitting the buildings as such is probably not difficult at all because they are visible from a great distance. You just have to keep them straight in your line of vision all them time.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  82. Anon[309] • Disclaimer says:

    Government conspiracies, did you say?

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    “Rebirth of a Nation” – CIA intrigue and criminal entrapment –
    https://redstatesrebel.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/12-Rebirth_of_a_Nation.pdf

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  83. Getaclue says:
    @JLK

    It was heard long before 9/11 that “the twins” would be coming down — no doubt it was planned at the time it was built by Rockefeller as part of the NWO plan that has been unfolding for a very long time and is now in hyperdrive: “The construction of the first World Trade Center complex in New York City was conceived as an urban renewal project to help revitalize Lower Manhattan spearheaded by David Rockefeller”….– hard to believe this is still around as to the Israeli “art students” wiring the Towers:

    https://www.winterwatch.net/2021/09/world-trade-centers-infamous-91st-floor-israeli-art-student-project-2/

  84. @Zarathustra

    Those dancing Israelite’s on the roof were not there to film the event. They were there to conduct the final stage of Drone control.

    The plane that is claimed to be shut down was also a Drone without people. It was not shut down,
    Most probably the remote control did jam. There were no human remains and luggage,
    Like in that plane shot down in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  85. gabon 45 says:
    @Quartermaster

    the insulation specs were the same for the higher level floors as the lower floors – Bogus Claim !

    the steel floor truss matrix was the same as well – for both sections – construction standards in 1967 were better than 2000 for buildings in NYC – especially 100+ floors which was a first in NYC and the world !

    first class Architectural & Engineering Firms were responsible – no one ever sued them for lack of professional standards in these buildings

    who are you shilling for?

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Thanks: GMC
    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  86. @JLK

    The planes were remotely controlled, just like drones. Once the planes took off, the controls were hijacked and remotely controlled and anything the pilot did had zero effect.
    The hijackers could not be the pilots, they were too inept and unreliable. The planes had to be remotely controlled.

    • Agree: Alfred Muscaria, JLK
  87. Rurik says:
    @JWalters

    Thank you for the links

    In the immortal words of Dr. Alan Sabrosky

    “They did it”

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @JWalters
  88. Agent76 says:

    September 10, 2021 The Bin Ladens and the Bushes: On 9/11 George Herbert W. Bush Meets Osama’s Brother Shafiq bin Laden

    Lest we forget, one day before the 9/11 attacks [as well as on the morning of 9/11, the dad of the sitting President of the United States of America, George Herbert Walker Bush was meeting none other than Shafiq bin Laden, the brother of the alleged terror mastermind Osama bin Laden.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-bin-ladens-the-bushes-and-911-a-former-us-president-meets-osamas-brother-not-subject-to-anti-terrorism-legislation/5582436

    Sep 10, 2021 Reflecting on 9/11 by Bring Our Troops Home

  89. Rurik says:
    @animalogic

    “IF” they get away with it ?

    Horse & stable doors, Mr Rurik…..

    they got away with the USS Liberty

    Most of the people involved are all dead.

    But with 9/11, most of them are still alive, and still pulling the strings of power.

    As America saber rattles at Iran and Russia and others, it’s the exact same PTB who’re pulling Biden’s (and the rest of the Western world’s leader’s) puppet strings.

    Liz Cheney’s unhinged war mongering is simply her father’s treason carried on by his treasonous spawn.

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/17/liz-cheney-puts-the-forever-in-forever-war/

    Today that perfidious bitch is finally being repudiated for the lap dog of Zion that her whole family is.

    It won’t come from the top, where Zion corrupts from the top down, but as more and more people become aware of what was done on 9/11, and why, it will become more and more difficult to sell Eternal Wars for Israel to the American public.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  90. After all Bush and Cheiny were not absolutely cynical. They did not want to be directly responsible for American death. There were little direct American casualties. only one thousand. The two thousand were policeman and firemen running into the towers. But I am not trying to diminish the US administration guilt.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  91. @Annony Mouse

    Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds

    Thank you for reference to the “most gagged person in US History” …

    “US Attorney General John Ashcroft asserted “State Secrets Privilege” to block legal action based on Edmonds’ deposition. The Department of Justice moved to prevent US Congress from any discussion of her case by its “retroactive re-classification”.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds

    She went on to found a Whistleblowers organisation, Journalist for BudNews, wrote “Classified Woman” abt the rotten-to-the-core US administration
    One amzn reviewer said —

    … She has all but been stifled by the combination of a lazy and careless media, corrupt politicians on both sides of the aisle, and worst of all a complicit and deeply corrupted judiciary.
    Her writing is a detailed, precise but scorching indictment of the depth of rot and corruption in the Department of Justice and the FBI.
    However the stench of decadence from the Depts of Defence and State, the lapdog TV & newspaper media, and much of the two Houses of Congress and their organs reeks to high Heaven.

    I understand her husband has recently been diagnosed with a degenerative illness.
    And how convenient is that for Alsheimer Joe and company …

    This is your “government”, America. And your fearless Media.
    A shambolic laughing-stock corrupt shit-show from the top down.
    All at the service of Tel Aviv.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  92. @Ace

    Sir, this is a conspiracy story. Why are you trying to inject reality into it?

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  93. @Zarathustra

    “Lets roll” is epitome of stupidity.

  94. Mr. Ron Unz,

    Please add a hasbara button for the hologram, no planes, mini-nuke folks.

    • Agree: L.K
  95. @Zachary Smith

    Sir, this is a conspiracy story. Why are you trying to inject reality into it?

    Suggestion: learn what ‘conspiracy’ means. It’s a word which describes real things. That it’s been massively misunderstood since the 60s (courtesy of CIA) is no reason for you to partake and continue the infection.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  96. @GMC

    That is quite likely the stupidest thing that has ever been written on this subject.

  97. @anon

    Thanks for the high-quality link.

  98. @Ace

    Amateurs guiding two large fast-moving planes to predetermine spots on the buildings is not plausible, even with a beacon.

    It’s a stretch, though hardly impossible. What’s perhaps more plausible is allowing post-control of the start line for the alleged explosives. Dunno though. I know flying. Don’t know explosives.

  99. Rurik says:
    @Mustapha Mond

    when it comes to the American public, as Jack Nicholson famously said: “You can’t handle the truth!”

    In short, things ain’t looking too good for widespread 9/11 truth or accountability, now or in the future, sad to say……

    That’s all true, but it’s still no reason to stop trying.

    (I’m no doubt going to run afoul of the comment limit on this thread, so until the requisite time passes, I’d like to thank those who’ve expressed agreement that 9/11 was the work of Israel and treasonous elements inside the Bush administration, [with obvious and eager cooperation from the Jewish media], and that we must not allow them to continue with their agenda).

    The American people, (like most others) are a simple and decent lot. The fact that they’re incapable of comprehending an evil of such enormity, is the very thing the psychopaths who did 9/11 were counting on.

    It’s true that most Americans (including Canadians and Brazilians and Belgians, etc..), are unqualified to even imagine such beyond-sinister malevolence. Even if they can accept that a child molester might do unspeakable things, and even murder and child, the idea that the people trusted and paid and empowered to protect that child, would be the very ones to perpetrate atrocities upon him or her, is beyond what normal humans are willing to accept, lest their world become unglued, and with it, the foundations of their psychological stability. Madness lurks down that rabbit hole, and woe be to those peer too deeply into it.

    But yet when an Old Testament fiend is about, steeped in murderous and treacherous pathologies honed over centuries- you either muster the depths of your mettle to recognize it, and neutralize it, or you lose all your children to it’s netherworld maw of infinite malevolence. As is happening to the entire Western (and much of the Muslim) world as I write this.

    IMHO

    The stakes, as I mentioned, are very high indeed.

    • Replies: @Jim H
    , @Druid55
  100. Agent76 says:

    September 11, 2013 9/11 Debunked in Under 5 Minutes

    Feb 24, 2015 Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of Building 7 – w/ Ed Asner

    This is the original video that YouTube took down, without notice, on or about Feb 20, 2015.

    • Thanks: RichardDuck, Sarah
  101. @Avianthro

    The FBI is one of dozens of agencies that must be defunded, or worst case scenario. What they did to Trump, Roger Stone, Pappadoupolus, US Girls Gymnastics team and thousands of other victims from incompetence and abuse of power is despicable.

  102. @Monty Ahwazi

    There was a study done by Asia Times about airline stocks just after.

  103. Is Giraldi a plain kook or a honeypot?

    • Troll: Weaver
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  104. @Quartermaster

    Can you creatures open your mouths without lying?

    Firefighters on 80th floor said fires had burned themselves out.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  105. R.C. says:
    @anon

    Well, the current ‘attempt’ is C-1984 and it appears to be working quite well I’m sad to say.
    R.C.

  106. @Rurik

    Most of the people involved [in Israeli attack on USS Liberty] are all dead.

    MANY of the people involved are dead, but many are alive.
    Several years ago, the author of this essay organized several Unzites to meet with them at Arlington Cemetery, where we met survivors and relatives of the deceased members of the USS Liberty.

    Many survivors of Israel’s attack on USS Liberty were interviewed and recorded by Matt Skow for TruNews.
    https://www.trunews.com/podcast/remember-the-uss-liberty-sneak-peak-of-upcoming-trunews-film-about-israel-s-attack-on-uss-liberty-in-1967

    Just coincidentally: as this blogger recorded,
    TruNews were quite possibly the only news outlet to have been on the steps of the Capitol.
    In the melee Matt Scow [sic] was separated from Edward Szall and swept by the vortex into the building.

    Just coincidentally, Szall was fired from the TruNews team for alleged misdeeds when Szall & team members live-streamed Mike Lindell’s most recent attempt to “prove” that the election of Biden was fraudulent.

    Just coincidentally, Szall and others from TruNews recorded at least one of the earlier of the THREE Stop the Steal rallies. In one of those earlier rallies, TruNews/Szall sat on a bus and recorded Jewish participants who said, in very precise language, that he was there “to do whatever Trump asked of the people.” [or words to that effect; the video is no longer available].

    At the same Stop the Steal rally, Szall interviewed a woman who was dressed in similar fashion to the ‘Jewish man on the bus.’ She was identified as “former Israeli intelligence;” her motorcycle jacket bore the Israeli star as well as the same ‘Jews for Trump’ patch as the Man on the Bus.

    At one of the three Stop the Steal rallies, the opening act was a rabbi, dressed in street clothes, who led a prayer in Hebrew that referred to the Jewish conquest of Jericho, then directed the sounding of two shofars; in Hebrew scripture, sounding the shofar is the signal for completion of the Hebrew conquest of Jericho.

    I was watching C Span as that event was live-streamed; C Span showed the sounding of the shofars.
    But C Span has erased that segment from its archive.

    Mike Flynn spoke at that particular Stop the Steal rally.
    In his comments, Flynn made reference to protesters there preparing to “storm Jericho” (or words to that effect). I heard him say this. Those words have been erased from C Span’s transcript & video of Flynn’s comments.

    Just coincidentally, yesterday, Rick Wiles and Doc Burkhart, two of the last three remaining TruNews regulars, tore into Mike Flynn for having mentioned “angels” but not “Jesus” in a recent speech of Flynn’s. Wiles repeated that Flynn was “not trustworthy,” “not a Christian,” “not to be believed.” *

    I wonder:

    Who has gotten to TruNews?

    * I grew up in as intensely Roman Catholic (Italian version, not Irish Catholic: they are vastly different) as can be imagined. As little Catholic kids we learned to pray to our Guardian Angel, and to “St Michael the Archangel.” Mike Flynn is Roman Catholic (Irish version — far more militant). Surely he is acquainted with the Prayer to St Michael:
    “St. Michael the Archangel
    Defend us in battle,
    Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
    And do thou, oh prince of the heavenly host
    Cast into hell satan and the other evil spirits
    Who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of sinners and souls.
    Amen.”

    Why would Rick Wiles & Company at TruNews, who have condemned “Satanists” dozens of times, so stridently disavow someone like Mike Flynn, who also does battle with “Satanists?”

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Rurik
  107. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Why would anyone put explosives in the towers when they plan to fly planes into them?

    Because the neocon ((Jews)) and honorary ((Jews)) needed a “new Pearl Harbor,” and stated as much well before 9/11.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Pearl_Harbor

    That’s the thing about ((Jews)) — they just can’t help but to suggestively brag about their conspiracies. On some psychotic level, they want the world to know who really pulls the strings.

    Yes, they’re that self-certain and arrogant. It’s just one of many sins they’re guilty of.

    Moses knew how to deal with Hebrew sociopaths, didn’t he?

  108. @schnellandine

    I stand corrected, for what I ought to have said – and what I meant to have said – was “conspiracy theory”. Not the same thing as “conspiracy”. From the Wiki:

    A conspiracy theory is not the same as a conspiracy; instead, it refers to a hypothesized conspiracy with specific characteristics….

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  109. @dimples

    Technology and expertise are always restricted and reserved for the military. It’s released only if it’s leaked to rivals and /or the general public.
    I believe that commercial airliners can be and even on 911 were remotely controlled.

  110. @Zarathustra

    No planes were used, holograms of planes were used, and faked videos of planes showing the nose of planes exiting the towers, John Lear said the planes theory was impossible, and Lear was a pilot the plane theory was a diversion.

    The pentagram was an internally wire demolition, see April Gallops interviews on youtube, she was working at the pentagram on 911 and walked out through the hole, and never saw any plane or missile parts.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
    , @dimples
  111. Jim H says:
    @Rurik

    ‘The American people, (like most others) are a simple and decent lot. The fact that they’re incapable of comprehending an evil of such enormity, is the very thing the psychopaths who did 9/11 were counting on.’ — Rurik

    Carroll Quigley, an internationalist insider historian who somehow cultivated a reputation as a bit of a maverick, wrote:

    ‘The so-called “surprises” of history have emerged not because other countries did not have the information, but because they refused to believe it. Both the Germans and the Russians had the date of D-Day, but ignored it.’ — Tragedy & Hope, page 919

    If this is true of sophisticated (but conformist thinking) intelligence analysts, how much more true must it be for the general population, whose modest ratiocinative faculties are fried by the insidious Kultursmog of CNN and MSNBC?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  112. @Pelayo

    Gordon Duff is not all there, he’s a bit scattered. His right hand man quit and has a weekly podcast right here on UNZ.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
  113. If Donald Trump had any guts he would have appointed a dozen special prosecutors and ordered an initial investigation.

    We need to hack into Biden’s earpiece and have him order the investigation. Can’t this be hacked? It’s wireless, so we could detect the signal.

  114. Zumbuddi says:
    @Henry's Cat

    Just you watch your mouff.

    Giraldi ain’t no plain kook.

    Giraldi’s a special kinda kook.

    So kooky he’s willing to intercept ADL’s grenades & lob ’em back.

  115. @Zachary Smith

    …bearing in mind that ‘conspiracy theory’ is perhaps the most corrupted language related to conspiracies (courtesy of CIA). For example, how many do you know who refer to the federal version of what happened on 9/11/2001 as a conspiracy theory? Few, I’m guessing. Yet that’s exactly what it is—a theory regarding a conspiracy.

    If anyone’s arguing that 9/11 wasn’t a conspiracy, I’d like to see that!

  116. Sean says:

    I would note there was an American army in Saudi Arabia at the time of 9/11, and it was instantly removed after the invasion of Iraq (and ousting of Saddam). The Israelis and their American Lobby were happy about the US withdrawal from Saudi Arabia, were they?

    The final question “How did they do it?” results in a speculative response, but I would argue that if the Arab hijackers really existed, both Israel, which clearly would have known about what was coming, and the cabal in Washington, just “let it happen,” making it a version of a false flag attack. If they had prior knowledge that the presumed Saudi hijackers, most of whom they likely knew by name, would be taking over the airliners and crashing them into high value targets to include the WTC and government buildings in Washington, it served their purpose to not interfere and let them do it.

    If the putative objective of the cabal was the invasion of Afghanistan, yes. BUT IT WASN’T .

    • Replies: @awry
  117. cohen says:
    @Anonymouse

    Master of the universe simply means the powerful. You should be able to guess. No it is not Israeli or Zionists. They can not be master, however hyena of society. Always live in a pack. Inner or inter breed. And make lot of noise. Pepe Escobar uses Master of Universe frequently in his writing.

    Everyone give credit to Mossad which most due to the Israeli intelligence. Look Epsptein did not work for Mossad but was employed by the Israeli intelligence.

  118. When they first came out, I could not find any Arab names on the flight manifests of all four planes. Then I found out, using Microsoft Flight Simulator, I could fly an airplane into the World Trade Center; however, Bill Gates removed the buildings so I could no longer demonstrate it to others. Based on today’s technowledgy I could have had actual airplanes linked to my computer and I could have done 9/11 myself from my home. Is that possible? Search on “Dov Zakheim 911” and study. You might just understand “how” 911 was carried out after the buildings were rigged to implode.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    , @RichardDuck
  119. Given all these ‘collapses’ have the building codes been changed…?

    Of course not!

    • Replies: @Z-man
  120. Mevashir says:

    The basic government approved narrative goes like this: Nineteen Arab hijackers, mostly Saudi nationals, acting under orders of Osama bin Laden, head of the terrorist group al-Qaeda, used box cutters and other implements to seize control of four commercial airliners.

    According to the official account, what happened to the pilots of the four “hijacked” airliners? Were they forced to help fly the planes to their targets? Why would they have cooperated in such dastardly attacks? Many commercial pilots are former military and would be expected to resist such a plot with all their might.

  121. @TellTheTruth-2

    Then I found out, using Microsoft Flight Simulator, I could fly an airplane into the World Trade Center…”

    NFW, dude. It takes a co-pilot 1,500 hours to just sit there and watch a captain do his shit to fly heavies from ‘A’ to ‘B.’ A ‘guy’ who can’t handle a simple Cessna, won’ be able to corkscrew a Boeing into the Pentagon.

    Yes, the whole thing was rigged.

    Still waiting for JFK’s real killers to be rolled out…

  122. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Why would Rick Wiles & Company at TruNews, who have condemned “Satanists” dozens of times, so stridently disavow someone like Mike Flynn, who also does battle with “Satanists?”

    Hi, S2C. Have you had the opportunity to carefully view this segment of the TruNews broadcast, 41:13 – 59:00?

    https://www.trunews.com/#/stream/monday-madness-wall-street-and-crypto-plunge-volcano-alert-and-gen-flynns-7-rays-new

    The core issue surrounding General Michael Flynn’s prayer is his call upon ‘THE SEVEN RAYS OF LIGHT’ and ‘LEGIONS.’

    Rick and Doc Burkhart pointed out that that language is the language borrowed from the Theosophical Society, whose founder was a certain Madame Helena Blavatsky.

    Rick and Doc emphasised that most Christian denominations don’t pray to the “seven rays of light” or to “legions”… “that is not a Christian prayer, it’s a New Age prayer.”

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @SolontoCroesus
  123. US\$ 2,3 trillion missing…

    Boom!

    Boom!

    Boom!

    Boom!

    Huh…?

  124. GOP = White Pussies

  125. awry says:
    @Sean

    Yeah, the objective was Iraq (then Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Sudan and finally Iran) Afghanistan was not the real objective.
    The main objective was Iraq, an Israeli “expert” said to a Hungarian newspaper way before 9/11 that Iraq is the country ripe to be regime changed, in his view Iraq was “the most secular Arab country” that could be transformed into an Israel-friendly Arab country, just topple Saddam and it will magically transform into a liberal democracy.
    Also, just weeks after 9/11 when the US military was already in action in Afghanistan, but the invasion of Iraq was not even talked about yet, on a Hungarian forum a former military intelligence officer of the Hungarian People’s Army, also former military aide of the Hungarian President in the ’90’s (a retired colonel, a person of Jewish descent, obviuously with some connections in Israel – perhaps also one of the “sayanim” at least a former one) openly stated in a forum comment that the real target will be Iraq. Way before the media began talking about Iraq and all the BS about Saddam’s WMD’s and alleged links with Al-Queda was rolled out.
    So the “cabal” had its plans for years but I doubt the 9/11 inside job theory. In that case they would have framed Saddam from the start, not Al-Qaida.

    • Replies: @Sean
  126. geokat62 says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    As you can see in this image, Building 6 has formed something of a crater…

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @JLK
  127. Iris says:
    @Mustapha Mond

    In short, things ain’t looking too good for widespread 9/11 truth or accountability, now or in the future, sad to say……

    On the contrary, the reckoning of 9/11 is inevitable, and the identification of the culprits inescapable.

    The NeoCons who proceeded with the controlled demolition of the WTC have inadvertently and stupidly left behind them a nuclear crime scene.

    The forensics of this crime, under the form of flyover infrared imaging collected as part of a US Geological Survey 5 and 12 days after the attack, have transpired to the public and can never be covered up.
    They were utilised to calculate the heat released by the collapsed buildings’ footprint, and prove beyond any possible doubt that the WTC was demolished by 3 underground nuclear explosions.

    The proof is based on basic science, on the venerable Thermal transfer by free convection equations taught in 1st to 3rd year of university Physics curricula. Any Physics or Engineering undergraduate can understand it.

    9/11 has caused inexpressible suffering throughout the world and will never be forgiven.

    Remember the Holocaust cartoon contest organised in Tehran, in response simply to Islamophobic cartoons? Can you imagine what such response will be, when the survivors of the “War on Terror” and the Uranium are not afraid anymore of the waning American power protecting Israel?

    It is only a matter of a few years until Iranian, Iraqi, Afghan academics will publicly discuss on TV how Israel executed 3 underground nuclear detonations in the heart of New York, with buildings atop the explosion chambers, and 3000 innocent souls deliberately trapped inside. And how it then leveraged its own crime to massacre millions of Muslims worldwide.

    • Agree: Tjoe
  128. anonymous[589] • Disclaimer says:
    @JLK

    I see the Border crisis…The Afghanistan defeat, the economic collapse, COVYD lockdowns…..and the USA dominated Knesset.zio jeiwsh gvot OPENLY advocating CRT/WHITE genocide/ anti Christian RACE Wars…Lets face IT America is LOST…Once you inetrnalize their sublimal messages and make it yours then …you reach a state of resignation, indifference…and you find peace…America is finished..even the USA Military is betraying its own people/country…so let IT GO and you will sleep better..

  129. Iris says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Buy a Geiger counter and take it to ground zero. Report back what you find.

    Strawman argument tirelessly brandished by the Hasbara brigade, who pretend that they confuse a building’s basement with a much deeper borehole, purposely dug into the bedrock to provide an underground nuclear detonation chamber.

    I will be very specific:
    – the former, the Twin Towers’ basements, were at minus 21 metres below street level.
    – the latter, the explosion chambers in which the nuclear charges were detonated, were at minus 96 metres below street level.
    See, it’s easy; even high-IQ Israelis should understand there’s quite a difference between -21 m and -96 m depths.

    As for the evidence of the nuclear demolition of the WTC, I will re-assure you: it will remain available for centuries to come.

    Once America, with the help and blessing of the Almighty God, regains justice for its people, the proof will be easy to collect.

    All that is required is to install a simple boring station in the water basins now covering the Twin Towers footprints, and drill a hole for soil samples. The drill will very quickly come up with vitrified rock and highly radioactive matter, which decay time constant will prove that the radioactive process started in the year 2001.

    The collection of evidence in that manner will take one to two days, and radioactive matter trapped in the ground will remain highly identifiable for centuries.

    Good luck to Israel.

  130. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Iris

    It is only a matter of a few years until Iranian, Iraqi, Afghan academics will publicly discuss on TV how Israel executed 3 underground nuclear detonations in the heart of New York, with buildings atop the explosion chambers, and 3000 innocent souls deliberately trapped inside. And how it then leveraged its own crime to massacre millions of Muslims worldwide.

    The irony is, Muslims have been slow to exploit the 9/11 inside job to their own benefit, because they’re brainwashed tools, just like ((Jews)), and just like post-Christian Americans.

    This world is run by sociopaths, and in the case of America, sociopaths and schizophrenics. The ((Jews)) stole their souls.

  131. Kapyong says:
    @tanabear

    “There is one interesting and horrific aspects of the attacks that is rarely discussed. The World Trade Towers weren’t just demolished, they were completely pulverized. This just doesn’t include the building contents but people as well. ”

    But strangely, a group of firemen in a corner stairwell at floor #1 survived the building collapsing above their heads – afterwards they saw blue sky above them. 110 storeys gone, another story memory-holed.

  132. @Daniel Rich

    It takes a co-pilot 1,500 hours to just sit there and watch a captain do his shit to fly heavies from ‘A’ to ‘B.’

    Obvious drivel. Worse, in less than an hour I can teach any generally competent suicidal muzzie how to use a Boeing autopilot to navigate nearly anywhere on earth, from which crashing into a building at the end in visual meteorological conditions is borderline trivial. They didn’t need to take off, and they didn’t need to land.

    A ‘guy’ who can’t handle a simple Cessna, won’ be able to corkscrew a Boeing into the Pentagon.

    Supposedly, Hani Hanjour was an FAA-certified pilot. Much is made of him being declined a rental aircraft, and little of him supposedly gaining an FAA pilot ‘license’. Of course, far as I know, the guy never existed.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  133. frontier says:
    @Colin Wright

    There’s no particular reason to see 9/11 as either fish or fowl — as necessarily either entirely al Qaeda or instead, solely Israeli/Neo-Con. Some hybrid is perfectly possible

    I’d say, the number of legitimate possibilities is too large and it doesn’t justify detailed analysis of the “how” question. I don’t think it’s really necessary either – the fact that some group didn’t participate in 9/11 doesn’t mean that they’re your friends or that they wouldn’t destroy you given the chance, with or without events similar to 9/11.

    The average American Joe has few friends, foreigners blame him for government’s actions and use that to demand his money, land and life (see the Unz Review comment sections for examples), the government blames him for being a “supremacist” without missing a beat of taxation, inflation, confiscation and redistribution. He might be in the middle of a bio-weapons attack but he has no way to tell or defend himself – all of his tax money go for the exact opposite or to feed foreigners who hate him no matter what. I really don’t care who exactly and by what means did 9/11, the circle of hazards and enemies doesn’t change either way.

  134. Iris says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    It seems the building blew up! More here: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/wtc-6-what-happened-there.1809/

    WTC6 collapsed and became a gap hole because its underground supporting structure was destroyed by two underground nuclear detonations that occurred closely and each side of it:

    – one to its South, that took place under the North Tower
    – another to its North, that happened underneath WTC7.

    The WTC6 infrastructure is not the only underground construction to to have been destroyed during 9/11:
    – the underground slurry wall (“the Bath Tub”) preventing water ingress from the nearby Hudson River was destroyed in several locations.
    – the subway tunnels and attached Cortland St station were entirely destroyed.

    No atmospheric / aerial explosion can cause such destruction of independent underground civil works. Never, ever, not in a million year.

    The WTC was demolished by 3 underground nuclear detonations, which blast, as any spatial phenomenon does, destroyed anything in the vicinity with a power decreasing as square of the radius/distance to the explosion centre.

  135. Of 284 American Airlines planes which flew scheduled flights on 9/11 all had identification numbers ending in “1” (e.g., N5BPA1) except for two, and all had flown the previous day, Sept. 10th, except for two. The two exceptions in both cases were the two American Airlines planes which were hijacked. In fact, Sept. 11th was the first time each of the four hijacked planes had flown in nine months or more. Did the 911 Commission investigate these anomalies? (see https://kiaskblog.wordpress.com/2021/09/09/9-11-planned-demolition-of-the-truth/)

    • Replies: @schnellandine
    , @dimples
  136. Z-man says:
    @Daniel Rich

    The Port Authority was exempt from following the NYC Building Code bach in the 60’s when the Towers were designed and built. They used a high tech, for the time, space frame design which lightened the structure but factored in for plane impact and also for a pancake collapse. What they didn’t factor in was the heat from the burning jet fuel which accelerated the collapse.
    Today even the Port Authority follows the NYC Building Code.

    • Replies: @jconsley
    , @Rurik
  137. JLK says:
    @geokat62

    Is that Building 7 in the background?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Sarah
  138. @Desert Fox

    The planes hitting the tower were filmed from several locations. Hologram is in plane. You cannot have a space hologram. At lest not a moving hologram penetrating the building accompanied instantly with fires.
    There is no big deal to take a plane take out manual control and replace it with robotic control.
    Pilot all he had to do put switches on and leave the plane. The take off was done automatically.
    The control could be done by several stations or by flying platform. The flying platform could not enter the city because that would be visible. That is why there was necessity to introduce the control from some elevated position as roof of the building.
    If Israelis needed to film the impact they could do it from far safest place as to be on the ground.
    Their behavior also confirm everything. They should had been in owe. They actually were celebrating their own success.

  139. jconsley says:
    @Z-man

    “Stupid, silly reasoning. Americans have heard this nonsense for years!

    • Replies: @Z-man
  140. Sean says:
    @awry

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2002/08/the-larouchie-defector-who-s-advising-the-defense-establishment-on-saudi-arabia.html
    The Page One story, by Thomas E. Ricks (“Briefing Depicted Saudis as Enemies: Ultimatum Urged To Pentagon Board,” Aug. 6), described a 24-slide presentation given by Rand Corp. analyst Laurent Murawiec on July 10, 2002, to the Defense Policy Board, a committee of foreign policy wonks and former government officials that advises the Pentagon on defense issues. Defense Policy Board Chairman Richard N. Perle, a former Pentagon official and full-time invade-Iraq hawk, invited Murawiec to brief the group […] Murawiec lights out for the extreme foreign policy territory, recommending that we threaten Medina and Mecca, home to Islam’s most holy places, if they don’t see it our way. Ultimately, he champions a takeover of Saudi Arabia. The last slide in the deck, titled “Grand strategy for the Middle East,” abandons the outrageous for the incomprehensible. It reads:

    Iraq is the tactical pivot
    Saudi Arabia the strategic pivot
    Egypt the prize

    The Israel Lobby saw Iraq as a way to take over Saudi Arabia , but what happened is the opposite: the US army that had already in Saudi Arabia for years was immediately withdrawn after the invasion of Iraq. This is strategic thinking at the highest level in action, far above the Israel lobby and its parochial concerns . Israel is not all that good even in their own back yard, they nearly lost in 1973 because of poor intelligence.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  141. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    A little later in the broadcast, Rick Wiles dropped the mother of all truth bombs.

    starting @ 1:02:20:

    We’re being deceived from every direction, Doc… There is no political leader who is going to lead you to freedom and liberty. There’s nobody. You’re surrounded by liars and deceivers.

    We’re in a Masonic matrix and all the reality around us has been created by masons. This is a Masonic matrix. And so they have this left/right paradigm and the right hates the left and the left hates the right, but the leaders above the left and the right are the same people. The same people pulling the strings of the left and the right.

    I’m doing my best to break free of it. I hope people on the left, I hope you break free of it. Our only hope is Jesus Christ. We’re being led to Babylon by a Phoenix. Think of a Phoenix with its talons dug into America. And the Phoenix is flying out in the sky, on its way to Babylon… and it has a right wing and a left wing, and a right wing and a left wing… and these both wings to fly to Babylon. You’ve got Milley, you’ve got Flynn, left wing right wing. Got a right wing general, left wing general, both flying to Babylon. Opt out of it. (Fingers held in a cross) Have nothing to do with them. Separate yourself from them.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  142. Z-man says:
    @jconsley

    That’s the physics and facts of the collapse, nothing to do with who perpetrated the attacks, you moron.

    • Replies: @dimples
  143. @geokat62

    Thanks, geokat62.

    Yes, I heard that portion of Rick Wiles & Doc’s jeremiad against Flynn.

    And I’m aware of Blavatsky — years ago when I prowled the Antiquarian room of a neighborhood bookstore I bought a copy of one of her books. I never paid much attention to it.

    Years ago EWTN, the Roman Catholic network, had a series exposing and condemning “the New Age.”

    Interesting: Woodrow Wilson may have been influenced by Blavatsky and that level of occult thinking; it was in the air in Wilson’s era —

    Occult Paris: The Lost Magic of the Belle Époque
    and
    Twilight of the Belle Époque

    This interests me because it is what was “in the air” at the time Herzl, Nordau and others were birthing zionism.

    I still think Wiles et al went out of their way to draw that connection to Blavatsky.

    Wiles is not a pastor (to the best of my knowledge), and his constant preaching on what is going to happen on the fast-approaching Last Day, based on Wiles’s fund-raiser book, puts him firmly in the camp of Sabbati Zevi. Wiles’s Final Day is as fanciful as the “Left Behind” “Rapture” Christian fiction that Wiles derides and attempts to diminish.

    BUT more pertinent to Wiles & TruNews: my tinfoil hat is sizzling, irradiated by this finding:

    TruNews were quite possibly the only news outlet to have been on the steps of the Capitol.
    https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2021/01/repost-live-coverage-from-trunews-of.html
    In the melee Matt Scow [sic] was separated from Edward Szall and swept by the vortex into the building.

    Repeat: In the melee Matt Scow [sic] was separated from Edward Szall and swept by the vortex into the building.

    Matt Skow is TruNews’ rock-star filmmaker. Not sure if he’s a TruNews employee or an independent agent, but he IS working on a sort-of follow-up to “Sacrificing Liberty” to be called (something like) The Great Reset, in which the TruNews/Christian “Reset” = the coming of Jesus.

    If Skow was “swept into the vortex into the building” that would mean he would be subject to, at very least, interrogation, by FBI, with possible incarceration and prosecution.

    The thought just might occur to the Tinfoil Hat brigade that Wiles was given a choice:
    — Get rid of Szall (and Lauren Witzke & Milos Yiannopolis)
    — BURY your film of Szall interviewing Jews who participated in Stop the Steal rallies, and the video of a rabbi sounding shofar
    — BE VERY CAREFUL about mention of zionism, Jews, Israel — anything ADL doesn’t like (today Wiles was very careful to assure that “Israel is not responsible for possible directed energy pulses ” that may be sickening US diplomats abroad

    OK, maybe that’s true and warranted. Israel is not responsible for EVERYTHING.

    But Wiles is not nearly so careful when it comes to using reductio ad Nazi. He can’t get enough of repetition of his “needle Nazi” meme.
    Tiresome.

    In summary, I think somebody paid a visit to TruNews and drew the boundaries of the Acceptable and the Unacceptable. Throwing Szall overboard to save the highly-skilled Skow was the price of TruNews staying on the air.

    Shame on me.
    Nobody in the ADL – AIPAC orb would do anything like that.


    FOR ALL THAT — I think TruNews provides a valuable service and I watch it carefully. I’ve even sent \$\$.

  144. Rurik says:
    @chris

    They certainly managed to fool and bully the world into accepting the common explanation for 911, but so far, they haven’t achieved their main goals in the ME, to free up the Lebanon, Syria, Iran corridor, so they can expand into Lebanon and to dump the 5-6 million Palestinians

    yes, but they have accomplished many of their goals.

    Destabilize Iraq

    Send Libya reeling into the stone age for a few generations at least

    Carve off regions of Syria, even if the world doesn’t recognize this brazen theft, what to they care what the world says?

    Perhaps most importantly is use the ‘war on terror’ to destroy the West’s codified civil rights, so that for the sake of their ‘safety’, Europe and North America must be colonized and their free speech and individual rights curtailed, ‘for the good of all’.

    They may want to cast out the Palestinians, but more important to their long-term agenda, is destroying the Western world, and imposing their iron and cruel rule.

    And 9/11 has been invaluable to them for that purpose.

    It’s isn’t just Endless War on recalcitrant Muslims everywhere, but their real goal is the war on ‘domestic terrorists and white supremacists’ in North America and Europe. Nazis, in other words. You, white man and woman.

    9/11 has given them unprecedented powers to destroy America’s constitutional rights, and impose their Orwellian, supremacist dystopia.

    That is their true goal. Not simply to terrorize and rule the Muslim world, but to impose their feudal rule on the West, where they simply take what they want, and there’s no one to oppose them.

    9/11 was necessary to bring down the towers of America’s heritage and traditions (however ephemeral) of freedom and accountability. It wasn’t just concrete and steel that was blown to bits, but every last shred of federal government decency, honor or whatever lingering fealty to the Bill of Rights that coursed though the (now rotten) veins of our national institutions. Now, all but a memory, in the nation that operates a permanent torture faculty. Our own national Ministry of Love.

    It took thousands of years and oceans of blood to get to the point of the Magna Carta, and another several centuries and rivers of blood to accomplish the apex of human evolution; the Bill of Rights. Such is human nature’s foul, black-hearted need to covet and exert power over others.

    But our Founders accomplished it, and bequeathed to us a gift so sublime and ineffable as to be the envy of the Gods, and the ultimate glory of human achievement.

    And look at what we’ve done with it, the most precious gift a human being can have; freedom from man’s tyranny over man. We’ve squandered it, out of cowardice, avarice, weakness, willful ignorance and a gross (in every sense of the word) betrayal of our destiny and our children’s future.

    As they’re humiliated and tormented in every imaginable way, and find out just what it’s like to be a Palestinian and worse – to sate the insatiable and infinite hatred, envy and malice of the tribe, they will curse us all in our graves with their every groaning breath, and rightfully so.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Thanks: JWalters
    • Replies: @chris
  145. Get a load of this: Durham is yet another Anglo cuck who serves Jewish Power.




    For three yrs, Trump was hounded by a crime he didn’t commit, but the very people who orchestrated a real criminal conspiracy are getting off scot-free. That’s how the system works. In the US, you are either a metaphorical Jew or a metaphorical Palestinian. The US is with Jews no matter what, and Palestinians get it in the neck. In the US, people like Trump and MAGA folks are metaphorical Palestinians, but the truly sad thing is even they cuck to Jews.
    Jews have been after Putin’s Russia forever, but even Putin cucks to Jews. Jews now use China as Yellow Peril demon, but Chinese dare not name the Jew.

    As long as Norwhites(Northern European whites) in the US are total cucks to Jews, the world dare not name the Jew. If Jews alone acted badly, many peoples and nations would name the Jew. But because the Norwhites, the most capable goy group in the world, work for Jews, it’s risky to name the Jew because the Norwhites will serve as war horse and attack dogs of Jews. This is why Jews push the white-supremacist hysteria so hard. Their power relies on the cuckery of Norwhites.

    The world knows Jews alone without Norwhite backing would be vulnerable. Also, the world knows that it can bash Norwhites as they’re associated the guilt of ‘white supremacism’ and ‘racism’. Indeed, Jews encourage the world, white and non-white, to bash Norwhites for their historical ‘sins’. One would think Jews are working with nonwhites to destroy whites, but that is an incomplete and even misleading picture. Rather, paradoxically enough, Jews weaken white prestige and pride in order to use white force against the world.

    By promoting ‘diversity’ and the like, Jews seem to work with the world against white folks. But it is really to guilt-bait whites into shame, paralysis, submission, and loss of agency. But then, Jews use white submission to make whites cuck to Jews who then tell whites to serve Zio-globalist imperialism of Jewish Supremacy hegemony. Just ask the Palestinians. When have Jews urged whites to side with Palestinians? Just ask the Arabs whose nations were smashed all over Middle East and North Africa. When have Jews demanded of whites to side with Arabs against Zionist Supremacism and Israel’s support of terrorism? Thus, the enforcement of white cuckery isn’t anti-imperialist but pro-imperialist. It’s like the British Empire suppressed nationalism in places in India to make the browns serve British Imperialism. Weaken brown pride to make the browns serve white power. Likewise, Jews weaken white pride and agency to make whites seek redemption by… cucking to Jews.

    [MORE]

    Indeed, if you want to blow PC ‘wokery’ out of the water, just ask the Jews the following questions.

    1. If ‘equity’ is so important, how about addressing the fact that Jews are the most powerful, most privileged, and richest people while so much of America is ending up with less and less? Main issue should equity between Jews and goyim.

    2. If ‘inclusion’ is so crucial, how come NYT and WAPO and MSM in general don’t try to include more Palestinian and pro-Palestinian voices? Why isn’t BDS welcome as a means to include more voices in the discourse?

    3. If ‘diversity’ is so wonderful and the EU must take in more non-white migrants, how come the same isn’t demanded of Israel? If Orban’s Hungary is ‘fascist’ because it wants to maintain its identity and heritage, isn’t Israel more so as its immigration policy and ethnic codes are even more stringent?

    Jews couldn’t answer those questions because they’re full of BS.

    But then, the more crucial question is HOW COME NO ONE RAISES THOSE QUESTIONS? Incovenient questions aren’t a problem IF no one asks them. It’s like a useful question in North Korea would be, “Why is Kim Boy such a fat lardass pig when so many people in his country are barely surviving, especially when NK claims to be socialist?” Good question to ask, but NO ONE dares to ask it. Why? Because…

    In a similar vein, it’s useful not only to speculate as to how Jews carried out 9/11 but why NO ONE in the US(and West in general) dares to ask certain questions about Jewish Involvement?
    Also, we should ask what would happen to someone dare to do just that.
    Indeed, let’s imagine a scenario of someone who would dare to ask such questions. Suppose he has solid credentials as a moderate. There’s nothing to indicate he’s affiliated with the far right or the far left. He went good schools and has good reputation in the department. He is considered sane, intelligent, and balanced. Now, suppose, upon perusing the data, he can’t help thinking there may be an Israeli connection in this. Now, he isn’t sure but believes it’s at least worth looking into and proposes it be pursued.

    Now, what would happen to him? We know the Jews will be gunning for him the moment they get a whiff of what he’s up to. But what about the goyim in the department, government, the deep state, and the media? What would they do? Would they stick their necks out and defend his right of inquiry? Or would they do NOTHING while Jews pull all the stops to bring him down? Worse, will the goyim do the bidding of Jews and participate in the demotion, indeed demolition, of that person… like what was done to Jack Lemmon’s character in THE CHINA SYNDROME? (Of course, one wonders why Hollywood and media turned so much against nuclear power in the 70s. Did they fear the nuke technology will spread to Israel’s enemies?)

    And what will the media do? Will they function as the Fourth Estate that values a courageous person in government who dares to expose the lies and blow the whistle on what may be a massive coverup? Or will the media work in cahoots with the Deep State to shut him down? Deny him any voice or smear him as an extremist who’s gone over to the dark side.

    It’s been said the Deep State does as it does regardless of who is elected to office. However, the politicians appoint many of the top figures in the Deep State, and these figures pick and choose who gets promoted and who gets dismissed. If politicians are owned by Jews, they will appoint the kind of craven cucks who will do as told, and those cucks in turn will favor and promote willing cucks among them.
    Also, when National Security has been made synonymous with ‘Muh Israel’, no amount of pro-Jewish and pro-Israeli agendas(no matter how harmful to the US) can be deemed anti-American or treasonous. It means Jews and the likes of John Bolton can do anything for Jewish Power and Israel(at the cost of America as a whole) but never be called out on it. Meanwhile, no matter how much anyone tries to be sincerely patriotic, he will be deemed a ‘traitor’ IF his findings or recommendations are deemed offensive to Jewish Supremacism.

    Philip Giraldi got canned by The American Conservative, hardly one of the ‘wokest’ or pro-Zionist magazines in DC. If a journal so divorced from the reach of the Deep State gets cold feet and cans one of its writers out of fear of offending Jews, one wonders how things are in the MSM, Deep State, and other Jewish-dominated spheres of power.

    A lot of this has to do with Jews controlling the money, but money only goes so far. Japan spread a lot of dough around in the 1980s, but Japan-Bashing was still a favorite sport. China spends a lot of money in the West, but it’s totally acceptable to blame China and expose its dirty tricks. Also, when Anglo-Americans ruled the US with money and privilege, it was fair game to call out on the WASPS and the blue-bloods and white-shoe firms, and etc. And we can bash rich oligarchs all we want. We can call out on Bezos, Gates, and even Soros. As rich individuals, they can be bashed.
    But we can’t call out on Jews no matter how rich they are, how powerful they are, and how corrupt they’ve become. Why not?

    It’s because Jews control the gods and indeed have made themselves into gods, sacred race of new christs who rose from the ashes of the Holy Holocaust. Jews didn’t only throw money around but used their control of media and academia to spin a narrative where they themselves are always blameless victims while anyone who dares to notice Jewish Villainy is an ‘anti-semite’, ‘nazi’, ‘hater’, or ‘extremist’ or ‘terrorist’ or whatever. And to reinforce their holiness, Jews have chosen blacks and homos as fellow sacralized. In the US, black crime is responsible for so many deaths and so much mayhem, but people of both parties must pretend blacks are sacred and more must be done about ‘racism’. And so many people, especially whites, have been led to believe they are ‘more evolved’ and holier-than-others if they display the globo-homo flag, even to the point that churches fly the homo symbol. It goes to show what the power of media and academia can do. Globo-Homo is utter nonsense but so many people think they are morally and even spiritually superior if they have reverential feelings about a ‘sexuality’ where guys bugger one another. Globohomites think Gay Rites are about the rainbow. Jews are not only holy but associated with holy negroes and holy homos. The new trinity. As people are essentially ‘spiritual’, even secular ‘liberals’ need their gods and sacraments, and it’s Anne Frank as new madonna, BLM & George Floyd, and globo-homo & Matthew Shepherd. These cults are based largely on lies, but if so many people could be made to believe that some Jew who died unfortunately on the cross is the Son of God, they can be made to believe in anything.

    When push comes to shove, people will favor the sacred over the truth. As Jews control the gods, even those in the Deep State who suspect a Jewish role will just go along because blind reverence of Jews is higher on their list of priorities than the truth. Jews have Respect and Reverence. Just like Jews worshiped God even when He acted rather strangely and brutally(because He is God!), so many Americans are in worship mode of Jews. So, even if we were to show the evidence and prove beyond a doubt that Jews done it, they will still go with ‘when legend becomes fact, print the legend’.

    Also, many people think in terms of ‘our side is pretty bad, but the other side is even worse’. And that means one must stick with one’s side if only to push against the other side. So many libby-dibs and even conzo-wonzos see the world in terms of Humanity vs Nazis/Racists/White-Supremacists. They believe any criticism of Jewish Power will lead to the return of ‘Racist Anti-Semites’, the worst people on Earth.
    But such tendency exists on all sides. Even Japanese who were critical of the Empire felt they had to support the Emperor because the Imperialist West was much worse. And even Germans who found much that was wanting about National Socialism believed it was still worth supporting against a world dominated by fiendish Jews.
    And even though Putin and men around him may have been involved in False Flag terrorist attacks in Moscow that brought them to power, many people support Putin because they figure the alternative is worse.

    Still, even people who grudgingly support Putin and Russia don’t worship them. In contrast, worship of Jews is a real thing.

  146. Pancho says:

    The author mises and important point.

    Save for a few short periods since the blowing up of the USS Maine at Havana’s bay, the U.S. has been involved in military conflicts all around the globe. The American military-industrial complex, a powerful branch of the Invisible Government of the U.S., needs wars and revolutions to justify its existence, and the totally unexpected fall of the Soviet Union created a vacuum. The War on Terror was the makeshift solution to fix problem.

    The War on Terror justified the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the rest of the fascist-like aberrations they imposed upon the American people. Currently, there two generations of Americans who cannot conceive boarding a plane without being searched and harassed by a bunch of perverts. Nevertheless, given the fact that despite all the help the would be terrorist were very inefficient, finally they found the perfect terrorist: an invisible, indestructible, self-reproducing killing virus. Problem solved!

    Now, from their magician’s hat, they have produced the first generation of Americans who cannot conceived getting out of their homes without government’s authorization and wearing a face mask at all times.

    The Coronavirus has proved to be the perfect enemy. The globalist conspirators cannot assassinate President Kennedy every weekend or destroy the twin towers every month, but they can create a new virus every day. Good for them!

    • Agree: Robjil, Skeptikal
  147. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    Beautiful quote Geo, thanks for that.

    • Thanks: geokat62
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  148. @Ken Meyercord

    Sept. 11th was the first time each of the four hijacked planes had flown in nine months or more.

    Is there a source for this assertion other than a potentially spurious download from that fed site linked at kiaskblog? Its tail number data is corrupted, and who knows what else. Example:

    N334Næ
    N334äâ
    [email protected]@
    N334Aæ

    • Replies: @Ken Meyercord
  149. @schnellandine

    Hani Hanjour was an FAA-certified pilot.

    Is Hani Hanjour one of the very-much-alive and still flying Arabs who is suing US for defaming them?

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  150. geokat62 says:

    “Edom, i.e. the West/Christianity is what’s stopping the Jews from returning to Israel en masse and rebuilding the [Temple]…”

    https://www.rivkalevy.com/moshiach-ben-yosef-vs-moshiach-ben-david/

  151. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    Cheney and Rumsfeld were in the Nixon cabinet. LBJ let the Nixon campaign be spied on. Kompromat was gathered back then, and cashed in during the DUH-boo-yeah administration.

  152. Rurik says:
    @Chris Moore

    Any “Christian” who refuses to see the ZOG conspiracy staring him in the face is no Christian, and dare I say, not even a human being.

    S2C and Geo have linked to some Christians who refuse to bow to ZOG, but they are very, very few.

    Perhaps less than .01% of the people who call themselves Christians.

    Where are the Christians you’re talking about Chris, that refuse to be a dog of Zion, eating his contemptuously tossed scraps?

    Certainly not in the Vatican, or those myriad Christian organizations funneling millions of “refugees’ into Minnesota and elsewhere.

    Where are the Christians who call themselves that, and worship Jesus, but who also condemn Israel as the rat hole of iniquity, injustice, genocide, and anti-Christian hatred that it obviously is?!

    If you’re silent as a ‘Christian’ as Christians are ethnically cleansed out of the Holy Land, and are persecuted and their children murdered, are you still a Christian, or something else?

    The day being a Christian means opposing ZOG with all your heart and all your faith and all you can muster in this life, so as to secure a place in the next one, then sign me up!

    But sadly, all I see from Christians is manifest cowardice and groveling abasement to ZOG and its minions.

    I wish that were not true, but with great sadness in my heart, that’s all I can see.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
    , @DirtyHarriet
  153. OK Let’s look at the Pentagon Options

    1. Flight 77 a LARGE plane hit the Pentagon.

    BS Buzzzzzzzzzzze Bonnnnnng – Gong Show this off BEcauzzzzzzzze – There is No large Airliner wreckage/passengers to be seen at the site of the Pentagon explosion. NO plane to be seen. Just a small bit of planted parts and some faked photos.

    2. A Missile hit the pentagon Some have suggested a stolen Russian Missile fired by an Israeli sub? Help me out here, list all the Missile options so far suggested. Could a Missile have been ground launched or launched via aircraft? The only thing that bothers me here is that they made it very obvious that a missile hit the pentagon. The parking lot footage of “the plane” that is just a streak. The exit hole picture. So if they had to make it this obvious maybe it was just preplanted explosives. To me the only reason to use a real missile and make the event more difficult to plan and time, would be as an option on who to falsely blame…. A “Russian missile” could be used to kinda blackmail the Russians to keep quiet…. But again they could just lie about that and there was no missile either.

    3. A Missile and preplanted explosives One would think both, preplanted explosives as a back-up and because when you look at the pictures the one part of the building has such a clean shear pattern.

    4. Preplanted explosives Definitely looks like some pre-planted explosives.

    Does anyone from David Cooke’s ( Mayor of the Pentgon ) office want to now provide information?

    Target acquisition Pentagon ….. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Dov Zakheim…….. ? Cooke – access to structure provided via contractors working on the renovations in that section of the Pentagon.

    See http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/docooke.htm

    The Defense Department’s highest-ranking civil servant, Cooke had worked at the Pentagon for 45 years under 15 different secretaries of defense and was still on the job at age 82.
    Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who presided over the memorial tribute on Friday in the center courtyard of the Pentagon.
    Cooke served as the Pentagon’s director of administration and management, as well as director of Washington Headquarters Services. In a position that carried great power, Cooke was remembered as much for his humanity as for his accomplishments.
    “Doc was a happy warrior, yet he was a very serious man,” Pentagon historian Alfred Goldberg, a colleague of Cooke’s for 30 years, said in his remarks at the tribute.

    https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Other/renovation_1march2002.pdf Download this. But we need the names of the contractors doing the renovations.

    The Defense Authorization Act of FY 1991 transferred control of the Pentagon Reservation from the Administrator of General Services to the Secretary of Defense so that the renovation of the Pentagon could be undertaken. How convenient.

    https://history.defense.gov/Portals/70/Documents/pentagon/Pentagon9-11.pdf Download this.

    Nicely Authored by Alfred Goldberg. So difficult to believe people are this evil. Gloating over the injuries suffered at their hands?

    Item 5. Was there a plane that flew over the Pentagon on 9/11? To Be continued…. We look at The Citizens Investigation Team – National Security Alert and ask Who is Dan Elwell?

    • Replies: @ImaBotKnot
  154. @SolontoCroesus

    Is Hani Hanjour one of the very-much-alive and still flying Arabs who is suing US for defaming them?

    The guy about which I said, “far as I know, the guy never existed”? That Hani Hanjour?

    BTW, thanks for that fool’s “quote”, a statement I’d never make.

  155. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    how did they do it…..Marvin Bush was in charge of security for the port authority. He closed each floor in the 3 bldgs. for 2 days in which no one was allowed on those two floors. That is how the explosives were set up……Marvin is the youngest of the “Bush” boys, the one you dont see or hear much about….

    • Replies: @JLK
  156. JLK says:
    @Anonymous

    Wiring the buildings would have taken months.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  157. I would argue that if the Arab hijackers really existed, both Israel, which clearly would have known about what was coming, and the cabal in Washington, just “let it happen,” making it a version of a false flag attack.

    Maybe the facilitators in Washington and Tel-Aviv were not just passive spectators. They wanted to help it happen and they sent the New Jersey Israeli team to place explosives in the buildings to make sure WTC1 and WTC2 would actually fell to the ground.

    The terminal approach of the planes into the buildings may as well have been handled using remote control by activating the anti-terrorist remote control in the plane if the planes were equipped with the device. Remore control did not work in the case of the Pensylvania plane (UA Flight 93); that’s a fact. The remote control team would be another team of Israelis. And there were still other teams allegely preparing to blow up a bridge and a couple of tunnels.

    That’s a multi-levels multi-team operation. Americans operatives had problems coordinating simple operations these last years. I would vote for an operation coordinated by Israelis from Mossad and by the NeoCons in Washington interfering with the operations of the many US agencies involved. Concurrently the NeoCons were showing the road to world domination during high level meetings with select politicians and department secretaries.

    If the lie is big enough, no one can see it. The eye will see but the brain won’t make the connections. We need more information!

  158. @Sean

    ‘The Israel Lobby saw Iraq as a way to take over Saudi Arabia…’

    I disagree; Iraq was decidedly an end in itself.

    At the time, Saddam Hussein was driving Israel wild by paying stipends to the families of suicide bombers. I remember noticing one such bomber; he was an unemployed father of five. Jeepers: whatever could the motive be?

    It was having an effect. Saddam had to go. Hence — come 9/11 — it was take advantage of the unique opportunity time. Pat Buchanan recounts the experience some guy had of walking into the briefing room on 9/12. There’re all the Neo-Cons — talking about how now we’ll invade Iraq.

    Saudi Arabia, Shmaudi Arabia. It’s the defiant states Israel whips into line. Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egyptian Brotherhood Egypt…

    • Replies: @Sean
  159. @Rurik

    Not that impressed.

    Christianity in the US is very badly in need of head-to-toe reformation.
    The first step in that needed reformation is to Name The Enemy.

    Frankly, I don’t think Rick Wiles is up to the task of reforming Christianity. His version of reformation consists of, “My version of Jesus coming imminently — the final day — everyone who has confessed his sin and claimed Jesus as their lord and savior will be saved; if you haven’t done that by the Final Day, you will not be saved.
    ‘The Rapture’ is nonsense; Darby is nonsense. Evangelicals who believe this and pastors who teach it are deluded. that is not how it is going to happen.”

    As implied earlier, Wiles’s version what it means to be Christian is almost as “old-new-age” as the Rapture – Darby aficionados: they are man-made manias, almost as nutso as Madame Blavatsky.

    And flawed as Flynn may be, I think it’s a mistake to put him in the same category as Milley.

  160. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @arami

    She is as dirty a scumbag as it comes -from Modi-RSS

    Here is the country she worships:

    ‘Israel Was Born in Sin. I’m Collaborating With a Criminal Country,’
    Says Former PM’s Son

    Scion to an iconic Zionist family and former member of the Shin Bet,
    Yaakov Sharett, 95, has become an anti-Zionist who encourages people
    to leave Israel—-https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-former-pm-s-son-israel-was-born-in-sin-i-m-collaborating-with-a-criminal-country-1.10220502?utm_source=Push_Notification&utm_medium=web_push&utm_campaign=General#

  161. dimples says:
    @Z-man

    Sorry but jet fuel long gone before towers collapse. See the famous picture of the woman standing in the hole made by the plane in the North Tower.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  162. dimples says:
    @Ken Meyercord

    Amazing news if true, as it obviously gives plenty of time to install and test remote control equipment.

    • Replies: @Ken Meyercord
  163. aandrews says:

    “…the 1982 Yinon Plan and in the ‘A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm’….”

    Muddled hyperlink. http://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf

  164. Terrific article with one major problem:

    “If they had prior knowledge that the presumed Saudi hijackers, most of whom they likely knew by name, would be taking over the airliners and crashing them into high value targets to include the WTC and government buildings in Washington, it served their purpose to not interfere and let them do it.”

    The problem is that the three most complicated, expensive controlled demolitions in history were set up to coincide with the plane strikes. No building taller than around 30 stories had ever been demolished before 9/11. Yet on that day three vastly taller buildings, 47-story WTC-7 and the two 110-story Towers, were explosively demolished. These were monumental, and monumentally difficult and expensive, works of building removal.

    The demolition perpetrators would not have just sat back and hoped that a ragtag bunch of Arab CIA and Mossad assets who were so incompetent they couldn’t fly Cessnas would somehow succeed in gaining control of passenger aircraft and flying them into targets that had been rigged for demolitions that needed the plane crashes as a cover story. Instead, they would, and did, make sure the plane crashes happened. The planes were flown by remote control into the targets. No hijackers necessary. http://911blogger.com/news/2008-06-16/no-evidence-muslims-hijacked-planes-911-elias-davidsson https://www.newageislam.com/war-terror/professor-david-ray-griffin/-america-attacked-muslims-9-11/d/726 https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-did-the-perpetrators-do-9-11/

    • Agree: JLK
    • LOL: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @Sean
    , @Carlton Meyer
  165. Anon[166] • Disclaimer says:

    “BioONE, a fumigation company associated with former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, fumigated the three-story facility with chlorine dioxide in July 2004. But the building remained closed when BioONE refused to release the cleanup data, claiming the building’s owner, David Rustine, did not renew its contract or pay for the fumigation efforts.”

    Rustine, who paid only \$40,000 for a contaminated building worth \$3.8 million

    Former AMI building declared free of anthrax contamination
    http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/formeramibldganthraxfree.html

    Rally for Truth: Shining a Light on 9/11 and Beyond
    https://rokfin.com/post/53282/Rally-for-Truth-Shining-a-Light-on-911-and-Beyond

    9/11 and Anthrax 20 Years On with Graeme MacQueen
    https://rokfin.com/post/53927

  166. @TellTheTruth-2

    By 2001 I was using the X-Plane flight simulator, an inexpensive model based software by Aystin Meyer. It needs a powerful computer to run the visuals though. I can’t tell how realistic X-Plane can be since I never piloted a real plane because of poor vision. Anyone can fly a commercial aircraft model on X-Plane and see by himself how easy or difficult it is to crash a plane on a skyscraper. One needs to first get a good hand control joystick to fly the plane.

    When 911 occured I was worried that maybe the highjackers trained by using X-Plane to develop their flying skills. I hope they didn’t. Unfortunately many drone pilots possibly do. That’s another story.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  167. Sparkon says:
    @JLK

    Wiring the buildings would have taken months.

    The gelatin and E-Team art projects had access to the Twin Towers for four years leading up to Sept. 11, 2001.

    Photo: Mark Dotzler

    At Unz Review, the gelatin team personnel are commonly misidentified as “Israeli Art Students,” but they are from Vienna, Austria:

    the artist groups (E-TEAM and GELATIN) who were selected to be part of the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC) World Views / Studioscape … programs that allowed them and other artists to work and live in the WTC in the four years leading up to 9/11 on different floors, including 91 and 92 of the North Tower. Additionally, they were given seven day a week construction access to the WTC that allowed them to freely move all sorts of materials in and out of the complex.

    https://www.markdotzler.com/Mark_Dotzler/WTC_Artists.html

    Finally, please see my previous comment on this issue here:

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/trump-administration-provides-new-evidence-for-a-saudi-connection-to-9-11/#comment-3493267

  168. If you control the media, you control majority of minds.


  169. Z-man says:
    @dimples

    Sorry the fires continued after the jet fuel was gone (the igniter) which weakened the joists to the point of failure.

    • Replies: @dimples
  170. bjondo says:

    3 buildings wired for take down.
    4 buildings wired for blow up.
    CGI planes and CGI suicide jumpers.

    Strategically, timely placed controllers, mouthers, censors.
    Debris from planes not necessary to convince. They have the mouths and reporters.
    A surviving suitcase with a keffiyeh and hummus would’ve been more believable than a passport.

    Follow up with anthrax to complete terror.

    At every point of importance, control, a Yid, Yid puppet.

    5 dancing shlomos

  171. No truth in Oligopress.

    Is there like a fear among every aspiring journo… “If I displease the warmongers for Israel, I will be targeted for demotion?” Of course, the Power will never explain why you were fired, demoted, or sidetracked. It can always find other reasons. But there must be an unspoken understanding among journos in Lib Media and Conzo media that anyone who displeases Jews is OUT.

    Libs can trash Conzos, Conzos can trash Libs, but neither side better displease Jews. If you do stick your neck and displease Jews, expected to work in the margins… but then internet freedom is being squeezed too.

    Also, the fact that most journos in MSM support suppression of free speech suggests many journos are either Jews or brainwashed goyim who really bought the Jewish BS line about FREE SPEECH = NAZIS. But there must be journos who don’t like this censorship but… they keep their heads low because if they came out in favor of free speech(for GAB and etc.), they would displease Jews and wouldn’t get anywhere in journalism.

    Fear of Jews defines so much of media space. Even people who became famous as loudmouths dare not displease Jews. Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones, two loudmouths… but mousy on the Jews. Limbaugh was much worse, but then, he got further and made much more money. Though Jones won’t connect all the dots, he has interviewed David Duke(fairly) and welcomed Nick Fuentes who had named the Jew. People like Limbaugh were totally afraid of Jews, but lest they appear cowardly, they talk big in support of Jews and Israel to show that their cuckery is really courage, rooting for the Jewish people against the ‘anti-Israelites’ among the Libs – ROTFL. Yeah, Democratic Party is run by ‘anti-semites’.

    Or take Michael Moore. Moore made his reputation a boorish bully-boy for the truth against the Establishment. But he’s never said anything about Israel’s tyranny over Palestinians or the possible Jewish connection to 9/11. His docu went on and on about the Saudis and Bush but dared not mention Israel and Neocons.

    There are two ways to displease Jews. The most obvious is to name them. If you do, Jews will come after you like they went after Nick Fuentes. But even if all you do is kiss Zionist ass and hail Israel 24/7, you will displease them if you oppose their favored proxy agendas, like globo-homo and great replacement… which is why so many conzos came over to supporting interracism, mass immigration, ‘gay marriage’, CRT, and etc. David French is a perfect case.

    We are told WWII happened cuz Hitler was appeased, but appeasing Jews is what the 21st century is about.

  172. Sparkon says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    The planes were flown by remote control into the targets. No hijackers necessary.

    Remote-control airliners might have been able to strike the Twin Towers, but they still would have had to fly at 500 mph or more down at 1,000 feet, and they would have had to withstand the aerodynamic forces they would have encountered making those extreme aerial maneuvers claimed in the official fantasy, let alone to have been able to cut through the dense array of steel box columns that made up the exteriors of the Twin Towers.

    Before I became convinced of the No Planes Theory, I went through all kinds of mental gymnastics trying to theorize and design an airplane that could fly through steel. You know, the one with Ginsu steel samurai sword wings, an indestructible titanium nose cone, landing gear with unmeltable rubber tires…you get the idea…but that plane won’t fly, that plane can’t fly, and that plane didn’t fly on 9/11.

    Sorry Kevin, remote control or not, no airplane could possibly have inflicted the damage to the Twin Towers we saw on 9/11.

    If those planes or drones were strong enough to cut through steel, some wreckage of those very strong airplanes should have been visible through the cartoonish cut-outs the two 767s seemed to have made in the facades of the two towering skyscrapers, but the two big 767s just disappeared in their hidey holes.

    Sure they did, because it was all pixels, no physics.

    If fact, the lack of any credible, verifiable airplane wreckage at any of the alleged crash sites is powerful testimony that there were no hijacked or remote control airliners that crashed anywhere on Sept. 11, 2001.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  173. @RichardDuck

    I can’t tell how realistic X-Plane can be since I never piloted a real plane because of poor vision.

    [MORE]

    Started flying when PC sims were just blossoming, yet at least 2 of them were very helpful for practice, even on a raggedy 286. X-Plane is much better, and, nerves aside, if you do well and consistently there you’ll do well in the air, including landings (assuming you use rudder pedals and practice with occasional crosswinds). It may even be easier because of the control/g-force feedback.

    Many flight schools offer friendly intro flights at reasonable prices. If feasible, schedule one and astound yourself with how well you do. YouTube has several good examples of people who’ve gone from PC flight sim to physical with nary a hitch, and some instructors are extremely comfortable letting people reach their skill level, even on a first flight. Explain the situation and enjoy.

    If you find a cool flight school, maybe ask for permission to sit in the plane before the lesson and get comfortable with the control/instrument layout; some plane models have radically different panel arrangements across the years.

  174. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Rurik

    But sadly, all I see from Christians is manifest cowardice and groveling abasement to ZOG and its minions.

    Why do you think ((Jews)) started WW2? For that exact outcome. That and Israel. Aka Zionism, aka ZOG. Why do you think these same Zionists made up the canon of “Holocaust” dogma and kept repeating it in books, newspapers, movies, television…?

    They were trying to turn Christians into whipped dogs. And they’ve apparently succeeded. They’ve attempted to do the same to the “Islamofascists.” They’re not have as much success because Muslims brainwash their young even more ruthlessly than ((Jews)). Because they know how dangerous ((Jews)) are.

    Christians used to know, Westerners used to know, but let their guard down. WW2 was the outcome. 9/11 was the outcome.

    If only we could have the best of Christianity along with the best of Western traditions like reason, logic, science and art. That’s what St. Augustine preached, and that’s why he was and remains cursed by the Zionists. They know how much power traditional Western Civilization contains. They know it’s the all that stands in the way of ZOG world hegemony. They thought it was dead and buried.

    • Agree: Annony Mouse
  175. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    ‘The Israel Lobby saw Iraq as a way to take over Saudi Arabia…’

    I disagree; Iraq was decidedly an end in itself.

    The evidence is that the Israeli Lobby and actual Israelis who were around Bush the Younger and had his ear after 9/11 wanted to overthrow the Saud family regime. If the briefing at the behest of Richard N. Perle is not enough evidence then take a look at this please

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/oct/15/usa.politics
    George Bush told Tony Blair shortly before the invasion of Iraq that he intended to target other countries, including Saudi Arabia, which, he implied, planned to acquire weapons of mass destruction.

    At the time, Saddam Hussein was driving Israel wild by paying stipends to the families of suicide bombers. I remember noticing one such bomber; he was an unemployed father of five. Jeepers: whatever could the motive be?

    The Palestinian uprising and the suicide bombing campaign that accompanied it too supposedly began because Sharon visited a sacred site in Jerusalem, but it also coincided with the aftermath of the failure of the July 2000 Camp David negotiation, and most likely were seen by Arafat as a way of strengthening his position for another round of negotiation. Ehud Barak had made substantive concessions in July 2000 in an attempt to reach a final settlement and although Arafat had rejected the deal he was encouraged by the crumbling of Israel’s previous ‘Iron Wall’ position. Making a relatively big big concession is a basic negotiating error because it encourages the other side to apply enhanced pressure in the hope of getting everything. In the Taba summit of January 2001, and while still PM Ehud Barak prior resistance to what the Palestinians thought was an acceptable deal began to collapse in the face of the bombings, or so the Palestinians thought. The suicide bombings reached a crescendo around that time, but all they achieved was the Israeli electorate rejecting the previously extremely popular Barak for Sharon who was the Arabs worst nightmare. Arafat was slow to realize this but after 9/11 he finally understood that the bombing were playing into the hands of Sharon, now PM

    ASSOCIATED PRESS 12.16.2001
    Arafat: End Suicide Bombings
    JERUSALEM — YASSER Arafat, in a televised address Sunday, called for an end to suicide bombings against Israel and said all “terrorist activities” by Palestinian militants must cease. […]
    Palestinian attacks give Israel an excuse to escalate the violence, he said.

    I don’t see Saddam as a prime mover in the suicide bombings at all.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  176. RestiveUs says:
    @Maddaugh

    Speak for yourself…And do move on.

    • Replies: @Maddaugh
  177. @Quartermaster

    The WTC towers were constructed to withstand the impact of a plane. The buildings were far more stronger than the State Empire building. A Boeing is just a long tube of aluminium which would completely disintegrate on impact. Several pictures show the plane slicing right rough the walls as if they were made of card board. The pictures were fake and added later. Borings cannot travel at speeds of 500 to 600 mph at sea level. More than three thousand architects , engineers demolition experts have testified that the buildings must have been blown up. Traces of nano thermite have been detected in the rubble and people’s har and clothes. Nano thermite is a explosive used in incendiary bombs and tank armed plates piercing ammunition. LEA have for years now clamoured for a reopening of the investigation . What’s the problem?

  178. Sean says:
    @Contraviews

    The WTC fireproofing was done by an associate of John Gotti T(Louis DiBono, who held the lucrative Contract to apply fireproofing foam to the steel crossbeams beneath each floor of the Twin Towers.) Gotti had DiBono had murdered in the WTC building for not fulfilling a contract. The mob took a cut and made things more expensive but they insisted on the work being done properly, which this guy did not do. Moreover, the FBI were far too worried about the Mafia because it got them that good publicity. The exaple of Guiliani was very much part of why that glory hunting against goombah wiseguys diverted the US’s counter terrorist effort, as Peter lance has documented . Gotti alone took up a ridiculous amount of FBI’s formidable high tech surveillance capabilities. Anyway, the planes did not have to cut through steel to dislodge the fireproofing because it was on the outside and relatively fragile. A m airliner’s fuel was enough to start a fire, and with dislodged fireproofing the heat could compromise the strength of the beams. That is why girders in such buildings are fireproofed in the first place!

  179. @Daniel Rich

    Wrong .. as a Private Pilot, I would fly a 747 on Microsoft Flight Simulator, very easily.

  180. Tjoe says:

    Wow….the author entirely leaves out Hilda and the planning that went to the top of the US government while we all watched the President Bill INFIDELITY SHOW…..a setup to distract from the real COUP by his wife, Israel, NEOCONs. The jewess Monica was no chance happening and Hilda hated Bill for his open infidelity. Locking Monica in a room with Bill, repeatedly, had the very predictable result….sperm stains. Hillary knew it and so did her friend Epstein (which is israel).

    THEY PROMISED HILDA THE PRESDENCY then failed to deliver via Obomber first……then Trump really blew her mind.

    Imagine helping Israel to murder 3000 Americans and then not getting paid.

    Hilda was the New York Senator for a reason…..and you will never answer the “who done it” without her……she is the key insider never mentioned.

  181. JWalters says:
    @Chris Moore

    The American Christian community, especially the Evangelicals, and especially the “Christian Zionists”, need to be informed how they have been snookered by the Zionists into worshiping Israel instead of Jesus. They need to learn how Zionists financed the Scofield “Reference” Bible, salted it with Zionist propaganda, and gave it away in truckloads to Christian seminaries.

    Here’s a Christian preacher’s journey away from the Scofield Bible.
    “Why I Left Scofieldism”
    http://www.gracegospel.org.uk/scofieldism.htm

    Here’s a secular article on this bit of history.
    “The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians”
    https://www.wrmea.org/015-october/the-scofield-bible-the-book-that-made-zionists-of-americas-evangelical-christians.html

    [MORE]

    Here’s an excellent video on how the Zionists have abused the trust of Christians.
    “Christian Zionism: The Tragedy & The Turning”

    The Zionist talk about God giving the land to the Jews, but they leave out the accompanying part where God says he will drive them out of the land if they don’t stick to His rules (Deuteronomy Ch. 28:36) This was not an unconditional grant. It had strict conditions. Historically, the Jews were driven out. By Biblical logic, they broke the deal. So by Biblical logic that deal is gone.

    Further, in that original deal God said the people being displaced worshiped other Gods. But the Muslims slaughtered and displaced in 1948 worshiped the same God as the Jews and Christians. The Koran specifically says its very purpose is to bring the story of the God of Moses and Jesus to a people who hadn’t heard it yet.

    Muslims are even closer to Christians than Jews, despite the Zionist propaganda about “Judeo-Christian” tradition. The Muslims accept Jesus as a major spiritual figure, while the Talmud mocks him. The Koran says God makes no distinction between Jews, Christians, and Muslims for those who do what is right. The Talmud teaches that non-Jews are not even human, but are merely livestock. In that book, the vaunted Ten Commandments don’t apply to non-Jews. (That explains the Zionst treatment of Palestinians and Americans, such as on 9/11.)

    In Jesus’ parable of the Good Samaritan the wounded man is passed by a priest and a Levite (Tabernacle caretaker). Jesus’ audience understood that the priest and the Levite bypassed the wounded man because he was an unclean non-Jew, as required by Talmudic law. Jesus gave as an example of a good person the man who rejected the Talmudic law. The fundamental teaching of Jesus is in direct contradiction to the Jewish-supremacist, “chosen people” teaching of the Talmud. The “special people” story was a way for the rabbi-bankers to control the people, forbidding marriage to non-Jews, and even forbidding living among non-Jews. (The Book of Nehemia tells how this got started.)

    For their own salvation, and the salvation of America and the world, American Christians must be freed from this deceit.

    • Thanks: SolontoCroesus
  182. JWalters says:
    @Rurik

    Excellent video from courageous, loyal, Jewish American U.S. Army officer, Director of Research at the Army War College, Dr. Alan Sabrosky. The Zionists are losing the battle to control the facts. They are on the way to becoming toast.

  183. The final question “How did they do it?” results in a speculative response, but I would argue that if the Arab hijackers really existed, both Israel, which clearly would have known about what was coming and the cabal in Washington, just “let it happen,” making it a version of a false flag attack.

    I get so frustrated with this LIHOP horseshit. What a lazy article. The author of this article never took the time to read even one book on 9/11.

    Hijackers did exist but only to create an FBI trail. They were “Sheep Dipped” Patsies; Flight Lessons, Judo Lessons, Stripper Club…..all kinds of very public outrageous behavior.

    No planes were used. Not even remote-controlled military drones.

    Nukes were used on the Twin Towers

    Building 7 was and still is the smoking gun. It was supposed to fall at the same time as the twin towers, concealed in the dust cloud. They fucked it up. Something went wrong. They now had a building standing in broad daylight —completely wired for conventional demolition. Further, the place was crawling with volunteers, firemen, and first responders. It was only a matter of time before all the wiring and detonators would have been discovered. So they had no choice but to “Pull It” in broad daylight, for all the world to see. Symmetrical -Free Fall – Perfect implosion.

    The pentagon was a Bombing. Nothing more. The giant black plumes of smoke were Hollywood pyrotechnics. There is a Dumpster located just to the right of the supposed impact hole that is pushing out all the dark smoke. It is an absolute FAKE prop.

    They murdered the entire accounting team uncovering the trillions of dollars in stolen money. Would you not murder for a trillion dollars in funding for Israel???? Would Israel Mossad not kill for that??

    The Means, Motive, and Opportunity all point towards Israel. The cover-up involving Zionist Jews at every critical point in the coverup further exposes Israel.

    The fact that we are now pointing the finger at Bush and The House of Saud is how a sophisticated Mossad operation should be run. The fall guy is the US Government and the Saudis.

    The fact that the FBI and SEC were investigating many high-profile crimes and all of those investigations were being directed out of Building 7, makes for a very interesting opportunistic demolition.

    9/11 Was the Grave Yard of so many crimes, so much evidence was obliterated and buried on 9/11. It was like all the damn criminals in America got together and decided to murder the people that could expose them. No body…No Murder. What better way to murder people and eliminate their bodies than placing their corpses in the twin towers and obliterate all evidence with a nuclear detonation. There are still 1100 or so people missing but never identified.

    The boldness, the brazen criminality of the dark forces that colluded on 9/11 has grown since 9/11. Now the game is to silence all of America. Hate Speech Laws will soon be passed. Anyone talking about 9/11 and Israel will be arrested and shipped off to a dark site.

  184. @schnellandine

    The N-Numbers you list are all for airlines other than American Airlines, whose numbers do not seem to be corrupted (for instance, look at April 2001).

  185. @dimples

    Yes, it is. If you haven’t already, please see my blog posting to see where the info comes from. It hasn’t been successfully challenged so far. Please help spread the word. Thanks.

    • Replies: @dimples
  186. Stephane says:
    @Contraviews

    Inertia and speed play a role in that kind of collision.

    Physic say that to stop the moving object there is a force exerted on it, increasing with mass and deceleration rate, and action/reaction means there is an opposing force of the same magnitude pushing on the target.

    When increasing the speed of the impactor, the deceleration and the forces increase too, to the point that even if the impactor goes “splat” against the target and is utterly dislocated/crushed into small pieces by the forces slowing it down it still can punch through because the force needed to slow it down becomes greater than what the target can take.

    See this video of a ping-pong ball versus a plywood paddle for a striking illustration :

    The ball is destroyed, but punch a cartoon-like hole through the paddle.

    In the specific case of WTC, I was able to find several computations showing that at the official impact speeds there was more that enough momentum to break the curtain columns, even if some of the simplification hypothesis they made could be questionned.

    Sadly, most of what I found on the other side of the fence did not go beyond bluntly claiming “shut up, it’s impossible”, without even an attempt at a quick, back-of-an-enveloppe demonstration of the implausibility of the official version.

    • Agree: JLK
  187. @Contraviews

    Something is definitely fishy. it’s been 2 decades in the gathering of irrefutable evidence. Maybe Lucky Larry has paid off people. What’s a couple of Billion in bribes when he’s still got Billions left.?

  188. JessicaR says:
    @JessicaR

    Here is what I managed to find using DuckDuckGo–I could not find it using Google:

    http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/ZionistDid911.html

    Unfortunately, I could not find a link to the original article. by Subir Bhaumik
    The Week
    February 6, 2000
    (The author is BBC’s eastern India correspondent)

    [MORE]

    On January 12 Indian intelligence officials in Calcutta detained 11 foreign nationals for interrogation before they were to board a Dhaka-bound Bangladesh Biman flight. They were detained on the suspicion of being hijackers. “But we realised that they were tabliqis (Islamic preachers), so we let them go,” said an intelligence official. They had planned to attend an Islamic convention near Dhaka, but Bangladesh refused them visa. Later, seemingly under Israeli pressure, India allowed them to fly to Tel Aviv.

    Where’s the catch? The secret circular that warned of a possible hijack

    “They had landing permits at Dhaka, but that’s not visa,” said a diplomat in the Bangladesh High Commission in Delhi. “We decided not to entertain them anymore because we cannot take chances.”

    The eleven had Israeli passports but were believed to be Afghan nationals who had spent a while in Iran. They had secured landing permits for Dhaka and one-way tickets on Bangladesh Biman’s Calcutta-Delhi route through a Delhi-based travel agency.

    “We have a right to deny travel facility to a passenger even if he has a valid ticket on security grounds,” said a Bangladeshi Biman official who did not want to be named. To the Bangladesh Biman officials the eleven, who were all Muslims, appeared “too murky”.

    Indian intelligence officials, too, were surprised by the nationality profile of the eleven. “They are surely Muslims; they say that they have been on tabligh (preaching Islam) in India for two months. But they are Israeli nationals from the West Bank,” said a Central Intelligence official.

    He claimed that Tel Aviv “exerted considerable pressure” on Delhi to secure their release. “It appeared that they could be working for a sensitive organisation in Israel and were on a mission to Bangladesh,” the official said. The Israeli intelligence outfit, Mossad, is known to recruit Shia Muslims to penetrate Islamic radical networks.

    “It is not unlikely for Mossad to recruit 11 Afghans in Iran and grant them Israeli citizenship to penetrate a network such as Bin Laden’s. They would begin by infiltrating them into an Islamic radical group in an unlikely place like Bangladesh,” said intelligence analyst Ashok Debbarma. The pressure exerted on India by Israel for the release of the men, and the hurry with which they were flown back suggested an aborted operation’.

    Mossad watchers say the operation was possibly blown off by “unwelcome intervention” in a friendly country, and they decided to pull out.

    The Calcutta immigration authorities may have laid their hands on the wrong people. They were looking for Islamic radicals attempting hijack.

    On January 11, the Bureau of Civil Aviation Security (BCAS) issued a top secret circular (NO: ER/BCAS/PIC/CIRCULAR/99), quoting “an intelligence input” about a possible hijack attempt on a Bangladesh Biman aircraft originating out of India. Copies of the circular signed by regional deputy commissioner of security (Calcutta Airport), L. Singsit, were issued to relevant Indian agencies and Bangladesh Biman’s station manager in Calcutta, Md. Shahjahan. It said that eight “Pushtu-speaking Mujahideen” had infiltrated into India for the purpose.

    The circular also specified the motive behind the hijack: to secure the release of the prime accused in the Mujib-ur-Rehman assassination case including Major (later Colonel) Farooq Rehman and Major Bazlul Huda.

    “Dhaka told us to take no chances,” said a Bangladesh Biman official. The Sheikh Hasina government is aware of the international links of the Mujib-killers. While Libya had sheltered some of them in the 70s and early 80s, middle eastern countries helped others evade justice. Major (later Colonel) Khondakhar Abdul Rashid, one of Colonel Farooq’s co-plotters, is said to be in Saudi Arabia, where he maintains close links with Pakistan’s ISI.

    Meanwhile, Indian intelligence officials are still on the hunt for “Pushtu-speaking hijackers”. An additional director with Central Intelligence said at least four hijackers were in eastern India.

    If the terrorists manage to extricate the likes of Colonel Farooq through a hijack, it will boost the Ôanti-Indian Islamic forces’ in Bangladesh, particularly the agitation against the Hasina government.

    With a less India-friendly government in Dhaka, Pakistan’s ISI could step up its help to the insurgents in the northeast.

    by Subir Bhaumik
    The Week
    February 6, 2000
    (The author is BBC’s eastern India correspondent)

    • Thanks: RichardDuck
  189. dimples says:
    @Z-man

    OK so now you’re saying that office furniture fires caused the collapses, not jet fuel. Got it.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  190. Sean says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    The planes were flown by remote control into the targets. No hijackers necessary

    That is possible but would be a challenge and require bringing all kinds of technical experts into the loop. A high level US conspiracy with effective control over the resources of US Deep State might have been able to accomplish 9/11 and pin it on bin Laden. But given the capability to pull off 9/11 as a false flag they perpetrators would already have control of American society including mainstream journalism and news media; why would they need to go to the lengths of destroying the WTC, which might have destablised the entire economic system that they had a massive stake in? Why not something modest and emotive such as a false flagassassination of Bush the Elder. Saddam had already been accused of trying to have Bush senior killed. I feel you are trying to have it both ways by mooting such a powerful conspiracy pulling off an attack in order to manipulate the political and foreign policy, something that they would not have needed or wanted to do if they were already pulling all the strings of the government and other institutions.

  191. @dimples

    There seem to have been 4 separate attacks: flight 93, the Pentagon and the 2 towers.

    In the normal account these are all perpetrated through the same means. They are a small group of fanatical highjackers. The more they try at any one time, the higher the probability of them succeeding in pulling off at least one spectacular attack. By pre-9/11 standards, any single one of those things is more than spectacular enough. The plan fit the alleged pertrators rational balance of risks.

    In the Unz account, these are all perpetrated via different means. There are a million moving parts. Worse, if it is a conspiracy that needs to hide their involvement then the more attacks the worse. As it makes it barely less likely to succeed, but many times more likely to be exposed afterwards. This makes no sense.

    You can say that they needed to up their chances of getting caught by rigging the towers with explosives for extra effect but that’s not really true. It also makes the Pentagon “missile” completely pointless and a random and huge added risk.

    It is so strange that you guys can’t put yourself in the wprpestive of the two imagined planning groups and see how 9/11 fits perfectly for Al Qaeda but is completely absurd for some state actor. The plan is weighted towards ensuring some success on the day with no regard for getting exposed afterwards. This is the opposite of how a state actor is incentivised.

  192. @Ken Meyercord

    All the N-numbers you cite are for other airlines, not American, whose data seems uncorrupted.

  193. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Eric Striker:

    A lot of Palestinians who protested the massacre in Gaza last May are getting the Charlottesville treatment.

    All these two did was yell at Jews dining at a sushi restaurant. Not one BLM that did this to whites was ever arrested.

    US judicial system runs according to Talmudic law: those who insult a Jew may as well be insulting god himself.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/hate-crime-charges-filed-antisemitic-205842782.html

    https://t.me/EricStrikerTRS/10604

  194. @Ken Meyercord

    The N-Numbers you list are all for airlines other than American Airlines, whose numbers do not seem to be corrupted (for instance, look at April 2001).

    Absent further, I assume that that corrupted data source was the only one for the assertions regarding the service history of the alleged 9/11/2001 crash planes. If the case, ‘unfounded’ would be flattery.

    • Replies: @Ken Meyercord
  195. @DanFromCT

    That sans passenger airliner left no aircraft debris, no bodies, no luggage and the hole it was purported to make was shown on Google earth months before the incident.

  196. jjh says:

    “New Evidence that World Trade Center was Not s Surprise – More lies?”
    Videos of missing \$2 trillion from Pentagon now \$35 Video of Building 7 with explosions going off where all the data was kept of missing money audio court docs
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/new-evidence-that-world-trade-center-was-not-s-surprise-more-lies/
    Recently, a tape has emerged from a private camera that was there during 911 filming the collapse of World Trade Center #7 – the only one that no plane ever hit. I have stated that the coincidence with WTC7 collapse was a wipeout of evidence as was the Pentagon which conveniently hit the room with all the evidence about the missing \$2.3 trillion from the defense budget.
    These two very convenient buildings that were attacked were most likely a major cover-up. That is where they took our computer system and when I asked for my legal discovery, the SEC responded that everything was destroyed in 911. No government employees in that WTC7 building were in there when it collapsed. They were evacuated. The motto seems to be – we do not kill your own, only civilians……..
    What people do not realize is that BECAUSE of 911 hitting the very room where all the documents were concerning the Pentagon budget, the audit never took place. Worse still, it seems to have endorsed a continual problem of missing money from the Pentagon. That \$2.3 trillion in 2001 has grown now to \$35 trillion. Clearly, the benefit of 911 has been the ability to keep hiding missing money that nobody seems to care about………..
    The collapse of WTC #7 was clearly a demolition to hide evidence. The government’s claim was it collapsed from fire.  The problem was the fire would have to have been 800 degrees celsius to do that and the building would not have collapsed straight down. There was also no source of fuel to burn that hot………..
     

    [MORE]

    I know what I had which was lost in that collapse which would have taken down all 5 of the leading investment banks in a real justice system. That includes the evidence against all the bank manipulations that the Department of Justice, SEC & CFTC do their best to hide and NEVER charge any bankers personally. The banks pay huge fines at shareholder expense to protect the bankers personally and nobody ever goes to jail. This really amounts to shareholder fraud in that they pay huge fines and those who make huge bonuses from the fraud keep their illegal gains.
    My battle with the “Club” was one where they wanted just the perfect trades from inside trading and bribing officials. I also hired Barclay Lieb who did his due diligence on me before joining my firm. He confirmed that Goldman Sachs had thought they could take me down, but I usually won…………….
     
    There is absolutely NOTHING governments say which can be trusted anymore. They lie about absolutely everything. Russia is starting to fight back with leaking the evidence that the USA has worked with terrorists and knew about 911 if not help the terrorists organize the attack. The Saudi’s have controlled the terrorists and threatened Russia that their Olympic Games would be safe only if they agreed to the Saudi terms. It was the very terrorists being armed by the USA to take down the Syrian government. The Saudi connection and the USA were exposed with the Syria attempted invasion.
    I reported that on the Benghazi Connection. The reliable story I got from behind the curtain was that John Christopher Stevens was supplying arms to the Syrian Rebels – terrorists we hated so much. That is why he was killed and the US had to step back and cover that up because the truth would expose the terrorist connection and how they used them for political purposes. I have stated all along there was an admixture here for it did not make sense.
    I  even reported that the two World Trade Center Attacks were curiously about 8.6 years apart. Not sure if that is significant but it does seem to fit the government cycle. The timing itself is very curious. It even took place precisely on the day of Pi from the peak of the 8.6-year wave at that time. It seems even conspiracies are on time.
    I have maintained that WTC7 was destroyed to protect the bankers and the courts. Decades of phone tapes would have exposed the “guaranteed trades”  and the Fed bailouts for what they were. My case was just way too critical to allow that to happen. Who knows what else was in WTC7. No plane ever hit that building and every specialist always said it was a controlled demolition. To do that meant that they also KNEW about 911 and when it would take place. They had everything ready both in New York and in the Pentagon and they got more power out of it with Home Land Security. That is why the press is not allowed to ever report on my case – FAKE NEWS.

  197. @anonymous

    The dual citizenship jew, Dov Zackheim, rarely gets a mention in these whodunit speculations.

    He was a high official in the Fed Gov (DOD). He also owned a facility in Florida, I believe, that retrofitted aircraft to become remote control drones. The photos of these modifications before 9/11 show craft with a belly pod of electronics and the photo of the plane hitting the tower also shows such a belly pod.

    2+2= ?

    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  198. @Occasional lurker

    Apparently you aren’t a pilot. I am. At high speed, what may appear right in front of you approaches quickly before you realize you were just a fraction of a degree of. By then it’s too late. Trained airline pilots have stated repeatedly that it would be more luck than skill to hit the towers at cruising speed and most admit they couldn’t hit a tower reliably.

    What may seem reasonable to you at typical highway speeds is another matter at several hundred mph.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  199. @Kevin Barrett

    Due to a lack of aircraft debris and the obviously fake CGI videos released by the media, I suspect they were smaller drones flown into the towers and the Pentagon, painted like an airliner. Like this, but drones that more resemble aircraft.

    If you watch large remote control aircraft flying, it’s difficult to distinguish them from the real thing at a distance.

    That video of a B-767 slicing through steel beams like a cartoon always seemed impossible. Even the fragile hollow aluminum wing tips and tail cut through heavy steel beams! There are several other impossible things to explain in video clips.

    You will agree if you watch this video about how computer graphics were used. I was turned off by the goofy presenter, but he is brilliant and a recognized expert in this field. The best evidence is toward the end when he shows his own GCI video of a B-767 slicing (not crashing, which is too difficult to render) into the WTC.

    (whoops, Youtube yanked this outstanding video)

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Zorton the Cruel
  200. @Stephane

    A comment on that ping pong video mentioned the possibility that the effects may be more from an air cannon than a ping pong ball—a good point, even if only for thought expansion.

    pure waterjet

    Density of air, water, aluminum, steel…

    How is a pure waterjet modified to cut metal? Also interesting. Gets one mulling things that happen very quickly, or very slowly. Encourages recognizing that we have all been surprised intellectually. Got hammered in the face with that phenomenon at age ~19, and haven’t forgotten.

  201. @RoatanBill

    At high speed, what may appear right in front of you approaches quickly before you realize you were just a fraction of a degree of[f].

    Please give a real example.

    Regarding what “trained airline pilots” say, c’mon.

    BTW, in a flight sim I’ve trapped an F4 on a carrier deck at ~600 kts. That’s a target window of ~2′ vertically and ~10′ horizontally. Can do it fairly consistently. Buildings can do in my sleep, no misses ever. I believe that most of the testimony of pilots is indignation at the harsh reality: noobs can do certain aspects of aviation surprisingly well. They usually can’t land, make coordinated turns, handle emergencies/radio, or have an SA bubble larger than the inside of a pinhead, but they can target—and they don’t usually care much about aggressive corrections to get to the finish.

    • Agree: Sean
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  202. Sean says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    That video of a B-767 slicing through steel beams like a cartoon always seemed impossible.

    What about it dislodging the fireproofing from the steel beems; if steel beams are immune to the heat of a fire then why do steel beams in buildings have special fireproofing, eh?

    https://images.theconversation.com/files/419729/original/file-20210907-17-ceifdd.png?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=600&h=389&fit=crop&dpr=1

  203. Rurik says:
    @Jim H

    ‘The so-called “surprises” of history have emerged not because other countries did not have the information, but because they refused to believe it.

    ..the general population, whose modest ratiocinative faculties are fried by the insidious Kultursmog of CNN and MSNBC?

    one day North Americans and Europeans are going to wake up to a very harsh reality.

    The people who did 9/11 are solidly in control of the entire Western world. Since they control the Fed and the ECB, it really couldn’t be otherwise.

    But the rub is that they control a civilization of people who they hate with a murderous intensity, exactly as they did in Russia and Ukraine and Eastern Europe in the last century, where untold scores of millions were staved, murdered, raped, enslaved and tormented for generations.

    In the 21st century, Western Europe and North America are going to find out what that kind of existence is like. Germany understood during the ((Wiemar)) regime, and now it’s our turn.

    If you put it all to a vote, and asked the citizens of England and France and Germany and North America, ‘Do you want to end the Fed and ECB, and free your nations from the global death-grip of Jewish supremacist hatred and genocide, (which will be felt more by your grandchildren than yourselves), if doing so will end all your government pensions?

    How do you think they’d vote?

    Just look at Scotland, they had the opportunity to tell (((Perfidious))) to eat shit, but it might have cost the pensioners a few quid in their monthly checks, so they preferred to see their progeny chained to the same regime that has oppressed them for untold centuries.

    People will get what they deserve I guess, but I still feel great sadness for the young people who never have a say in these things.

    • Replies: @Alden
  204. @schnellandine

    An example would be landing. As you approach, the winds can change as you decrease altitude. What was reasonable a second before now is a problem. That’s at landing configuration and speed. Now think of approaching at the reported high speed and encountering the known effects skyscrapers and winds have at altitude. The areas in between and around tall buildings aren’t called canyons for no reason.

    I’m not inclined to take the opinion of a PC wannabe pilot when I have the real world experiences you don’t. Your dismissive attitude toward trained airline pilots because you own a PC is pretty arrogant with little to back it up.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  205. @Rurik

    I am one such Christian.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  206. @RoatanBill

    You will find this interesting.


    • Thanks: Sarah
  207. Jim H says:

    ‘The case for Israeli active intervention on a political level is also extremely strong.’ — Philip Giraldi

    Mr Giraldi is talking about 9/11 here. But his statement is generally true. Case in point:

    “Importantly, our legislation includes funding for the Iron Dome, making good on our commitment to a historic and significant ally,” Senator Shelby said.

    ‘Republican senators said the funding for Iron Dome would “bolster Israel’s defense capacity and protect against Hamas attacks.”

    ‘On Tuesday, House Democrats removed \$1 billion in funding for Iron Dome from their bill, amid accusations of human rights abuses within the Israel’s military and its treatment towards Palestinians.’ — epochtimes

    Once again, we see dual-loyalty, lickspittle Republicans selling us out. A billion for Iron Dome is over and above the unmerited, abusive \$3.8 billion a year in tribute already committed under ex-pres Barky O’Bummer.

    Israel’s perfidy is at least debatable among Demonrats. Whereas Republicans since George W Bush have been Israel’s indiscriminate, bootlicking servants.

  208. @RoatanBill

    An example would be landing. As you approach, the winds can change as you decrease altitude. What was reasonable a second before now is a problem. That’s at landing configuration and speed. Now think

    Landing is a joke example, and I suspect you know it. That it was the one example you gave (me knowing that, other than clouds, you’d have no good example) tells much. The rigging of the winds for impression tells more.

    Know what a PC sim pilot would know that you apparently don’t, because we have the cool, fully outfitted screens with FPV and all sorts of other functioning cool instruments for monkeying and testing thought experiments? Course deviations because of wind decrease with higher airspeed. You can watch FPV in crosswinds trend inward as you accelerate. And it’s logical, of course. Being smarter than average bears, we also figure that crashing into the tallest buildings, by far, in a given area might have a slight dampening effect on those fantastic canyons of which you speak. Oh, and also we’ve seen IRL, at eye level, helicopters fly between skyscrapers, not being bounced around like tetherballs. We have eyes and brains.

    Frankly, since you’re one of my favorite commenters here, likely to remain so, I’m surprised at your vacancy on the subject.

    I’m not inclined to take the opinion of a PC wannabe pilot when I have the real world experiences you don’t. Your dismissive attitude toward trained airline pilots because you own a PC is pretty arrogant with little to back it up.

    And there’s the capper. Nowhere in that reply did I say I’m not a pilot. Elsewhere in this thread you could find information leading one to believe the opposite. Generally pissing on argument by authority, I’m skeptical of anyone who begins any conversation with the equivalent of an SJW “As an [blah blah blah]”. Save the card, sir. Save it. Learned that from an F-14 bubba. You don’t know if I’m a pilot, yet you bluffed to the one person who’d know immediately it was a bluff.

    Assume for argument that I’ve never been near a real plane. And then assume I’m a multi-thousand hour captain with more hotel room towels than you’ve sheets of TP. Keeps one sharp—focused on… the argument.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  209. Mulegino1 says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    The FDR administration let the attack on Pearl Harbor succeed without providing the commanders in Hawaii the relevant intelligence, in order to galvanize the American public, but there is no way that the powers that be would have allowed the 9/11 plot (that of the official narrative) to go ahead, since the chance of something like that succeeding would be zero in the real world.

    Unlike the Japanese air raid, the establishment version of the 9/11 attacks is simply not credible. 19 clownishly incompetent amateur pilot hijackers using box cutters to subdue trained flight crews, performing miraculous feats of aviation-even flying a 757 a few feet above the Pentagon lawn and evading the most sophisticated air defense system in the world. Enormous steel skyscrapers utterly destroyed by office fires after burning less than two or three hours, and an entire airliner vanishing into a hole in the ground.

    An unthinking public suffering traumatic shock cognitively anchored itself to this media fairy tale. Now the fairy tale has been ritualized as a part of America’s civic religion.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  210. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Several years ago, the author of this essay organized several Unzites to meet with them at Arlington Cemetery, where we met survivors and relatives of the deceased members of the USS Liberty.

    Several years ago, the author of this essay organized several Unzites to meet with them at Arlington Cemetery, where we met survivors and relatives of the deceased members of the USS Liberty.

    I seem to remember that, and even would have liked to go, and meet some of the Unzites and USS Liberty crew, who uniquely, along with victims of 9/11 and Palestinians and Germans and now Iraqis and Libyans and Syrians and Afghans and so many, many others… understand all too well the ‘banality of evil’ that plagues us all.

    Wiles repeated that Flynn was “not trustworthy,” “not a Christian,” “not to be believed.” *
    I wonder:
    Who has gotten to TruNews?

    I know a lot of Christians for whom being a Christian is the ‘sine qua non’ for being an honest and decent person.

    If you tell such a Christian that you’ve had doubts, and entertain certain ‘secular’ notions, they will write you off as a bad and wicked person.

    Why would Rick Wiles & Company at TruNews, who have condemned “Satanists” dozens of times, so stridently disavow someone like Mike Flynn, who also does battle with “Satanists?”

    I have no idea, S2C, other than my original criticism of Flynn, which was his communique to ‘the Russians’ (that he was arrested for) which was a call to vote in Israel’s favor for some UN thingy.

    I thought, ‘oh, you’re joining an administration that campaigned on putting America first, (for the first time in my lifetime), and then even before you’re in office, you’re sucking Zio-arse.

    But I’ve since forgiven him. (I know he can sleep at night now ; )

    Not that impressed.

    Christianity in the US is very badly in need of head-to-toe reformation.

    The first step in that needed reformation is to Name The Enemy.

    Frankly, I don’t think Rick Wiles is up to the task of reforming Christianity.

    I confess I don’t watch much of Wiles, but the videos I’ve seen of him tearing into Jewish supremacism and its rot of our society, are great, IMHO.

    And flawed as Flynn may be, I think it’s a mistake to put him in the same category as Milley.

    I don’t.

    Flynn seems like a good guy.

    Milley, (if what he’s charged with – contacting the Chinese behind Trump’s back- is true), should be publicly charged with treason, and perp-marched into a trial and prison sentence that makes an example of him.

    If, on the other hand, our PTB and the military brass, excuse what he did, because Trump was never a legitimate president, because he appealed to racists and white supremacists, then our dying Republic is deader than I figured, and every single person of good will, better start figuring how to get the fuck out of here, and fast.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  211. Che Guava says:
    @Rurik

    I agree with most, Rurik.

    A small point that continually is a puzzle to me is, why is Silvestein or Silberstein always named, but ‘Frank Lowy’ never is.

    I reached the point where I was thinking I must have been imagining things, so tried a search on ‘Frank Lowy World Trade Center’ on Duck Duck.

    The first page was full of hits on hagiograghy and ‘holocaust’ crap.

    So I was trying again with ‘Frank Lowy WTC’.

    The results had a link to a good (but not nearly comprehensive)article on Wikispooks, a site I had not previously known.

    This was confirming that my memory is not defective, he was the co-buyer of NY WTC 91 days before the ‘attacks’ and gained a massive profit from the insurance windfall.

    Seems it must be the bigger part of his ill-gotten hoard. Abt. a third.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Ron Unz
  212. @schnellandine

    I did assume you weren’t a pilot because if you were a pilot you wouldn’t bring up flying a toy simulator, with no tactile feedback, to bolster your credentials. A real pilot would know that getting bounced around alters the flying experience and is something that adds an extra dimension.

    I’m not going to get into a pissing contest with you as it’s not important to me. As a private pilot, I respect the piloting ability of multi engine jet capable pilots and trust their judgement more than one whose flown a toy sim.

    • Thanks: schnellandine
  213. @schnellandine

    Maybe you should complain to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics about their corrupted database.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  214. @Ken Meyercord

    Maybe you should complain to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics about their corrupted database.

    It’s low on my list. I do strut a bit, however, recognizing that I didn’t write some joke blog post based on their joke data. Doing better than mother ever hoped for me.

  215. @Mulegino1

    Hi, Mulegino. Nice to “see” you again!

    19 clownishly incompetent amateur pilot hijackers using box cutters to subdue trained flight crews, performing miraculous feats of aviation-even flying a 757 a few feet above the Pentagon lawn … etc etc

    Yeah, of course. In my comment above, I was just making the simple point that a LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) theory always requires you to have a competent enemy, capable enough that you could rely on them to carry out the operation in question. The Japanese military fits the bill there, but this Al Qaeda (assuming such an organization really even exists!) does not.

    But, yes, now that you mention it, there is this other pesky little matter: unlike the alleged Al Qaeda plot, the Japanese operation at Pearl Harbor did not require the laws of physics to be suspended that day!!!!

    Actually, I was aware of that little problem as well, so I guess I was consciously understating the case. But… sometimes it can be better not to lay it on too thick, eh? 😉

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  216. @Mike Fridelle

    I’ve asked this before of no-planers and still don’t have a clear answer:

    1) If it was so easy to create holograms or something similar in the sky in order to fake a plane crashing into the buildings. then why wasn’t this done with WTC 7?

    2) Does this mean that no-planers accept that WTC 7 was not an intended part of the plot, or do they still claim that pre-planted demolition charges were what WTC 7 down?

    • Troll: Jonathan Revusky
    • Replies: @Anon
  217. Rurik says:
    @Che Guava

    why is Silvestein or Silberstein always named, but ‘Frank Lowy’ never is.

    there are, I’d expect, hundreds of assorted Jews and Gentiles who were complicit, but who’ll never really get the ‘lime light’, that infamous Jewish supremacists like Luck Larry enjoy.

    Larry is bestest buddies with Bibi, after all, and it’s said they speak to each other on a weekly basis, so there’s that.

    Also Lucky was the one saying ‘pull it’, on camera, and other stuff, like bragging about having the plans for the new building seven drawn up before even 9/11/2001.

    So his chutzpah is legendary, and like Ehud Barack (another principle to 9/11), he doesn’t eschew the limelight.

    Lucky was also said to be in the restaurant at the top of the WTC every morning, except that morning, hence, among other cohencidences, the sobriquet ‘lucky’.

    Only we all know it wasn’t luck.

    You know, they had the PA systems in the second tower telling everyone there was no danger, and to go back to their offices. They even had security in the lobby telling people trying to leave, to go back upstairs.

    I try to imagine someone like Silverstein, who must have known personally many people who were tenants in his buildings, and secretaries and waitresses and others, with whom he must have been on cordial terms. And I try to wrap my mind around a man like that, who would deliberately condemn all of them to a horrible death, because doing so would be ‘good for the Jews’.

    And I can’t comprehend it.

    But then I wasn’t raised to consider non-Jews as less than human. And even less than worthless, and something to celebrate when they die, like Passover.

    I can only imagine how they must celebrate 9/11 in their own secret parties.

    • Thanks: Sarah, Che Guava
    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @Iris
  218. anon[284] • Disclaimer says:

    Facts: Agent O’Neils investigation, Ft. Lee, liquified granite under the buildings, the last two men out of bldg 7 reporting numerous explosions, initial interviews on the ground with media employees, just a coincidence I’m sure, Pentagon cameras not working that day, another coincidence, two pentagon security guards stating that a plane flew OVER the building, the obvious fact that a 747 couldn’t fit into the hole in the building, the fact that the “plane” in Pa, if traveling in a steep dive, would have prevented anyone from “rushing the cockpit”, they would have been floating in midair, the van full of explosives at the GW bridge, and finally, the whores and closeted “news” readers on tv all parroting the same bs. P.S. GWB saying that when he saw the first plane hitting the WTC it must have been a lousy pilot, umm, George, there was no television coverage of the first plane hitting. Lie number one. Etc, etc.

  219. Maddaugh says:
    @RestiveUs

    I did Honey. Fred;s blog got close to 500 comments, this one at 220. If we check out just another 100 blogs we will be up to 36,000 comments. The fact is every facet had been debated by everyone with a functioning brain and even by those with a non-functioning brain, by choice or for whatever reason.

    The average man knows what went down ! However the powers that be dont give a shit what we know, guess, surmise, conclude, can prove or not prove or pull out of our arses. All the architects, engineers, aeronautical experts, fire men, demolition experts can gather at the Shite House and take a dump on the front lawn to protest being lied to and conned and it will make no difference.

    Conclusion: The whole discussion is now, after 20 years, irrelevant because it has been covered up and NOTHING will be done. All talk about accountability, transparency and bringing the guilty to justice is just bullshit !

    Sad but true. The comments and thoughts of UR readers are noteworthy and well intentioned and they all have the same theme. We were lied to ! The liars dont care whether we know or dont know so we are flogging a dead horse. Fact is we have flayed it, the buzzards have devoured the flesh and now we are beating the skeleton.

    Time to move on to fresh dramas! What are the latest Covid Delta Numbers ? Any word on the newest variant MU……..?? LOL

    • Replies: @Anon
  220. Iris says:
    @geokat62

    Results of a recent poll by the US-based “Jewish Electorate Institute:

    A third of young US Jews see Israel as genocidal, poll finds

    A quarter of Jewish American voters agree that Israel is an apartheid state – a number that shoots up to 38 percent among those under age 40.

    Twenty-two percent of Jewish voters overall agree that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians, a figure that rises to an astonishing 33 percent among the younger group.

    Moreover, Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to racism in the US, according to 34 percent of Jewish voters surveyed. That figure exceeds two in five among those aged under 40.

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/third-young-us-jews-see-israel-genocidal-poll-finds

  221. Che Guava says:
    @Rurik

    With only 91 days, I suppose he had time to set up a warning system for jews to stay away that day, widely denied now, but widely reported on MSM at the time.

    Must sleeping soon, but it always is staying a mystery to me, why never any mention of ‘Lowy’.

  222. Iris says:
    @Rurik

    And I can’t comprehend it.

    Hi Rurik. You are the commenter who raised my attention to the fact that the WTC controlled demolition was deliberately organised so as to make a maximum of victims, with fleeing people sent back into the blazing South Tower, only to meet the horrible death they’d tried to escape.

    Further research on the subject shows even more cold cynicism and abject planning to maximise the number of victims, as well as undisputable foreknowledge of the alleged “plane attack.”

    On the morning of 9/11, at 06:47 a.m., “somebody” disabled the “master” emergency alarm system within WTC7, which controlled the “slave” alarm system in the North and South Towers, by putting it in “maintenance mode”. This is a fact, recorded in the official NIST report.

    By doing so, this “someone” ensured that an alarm raised in WTC7 would not be relayed and reported to WTC1&2, so the Twin Towers would not be evacuated.

    WTC7, an official building under government control, had been hosting 3 nuclear charges, 2 of which were supplied as part of compliance to building regulations for the future controlled demolition of the Twin Towers, with these 2 charges to be delivered by standard underground railtrack.

    Because this embedded demolition feature was an “innocent” facility designed by professional engineers, they took the required precautions to avoid any victim, notwithstanding any potential human error.

    They made the WTC7 alarm system a “master” control over the North and South Towers alarm systems: any activation of the demolition feature in WTC7 would instantaneously and automatically (by electrical wiring) activate the alarms and evacuate WTC1 & 2.

    Except that such a cause-and-effect alarm scheme does not work anymore when put in maintenance mode, an operating mode purposely destined to test while avoiding unwanted alarms.

    In summary, at 06:47, two hours before the “plane attack”, somebody with a crystal ball and direct access to WTC7 critical safety systems, disabled the alarm reporting link that should have evacuated the Twin Towers as soon as the demolition feature was activated, for the nuclear charges to be armed and moved through their respective tunnels.

    As a consequence, the alarm sounded only in WTC7 (you can hear this strange two-tones warning signal on the video), and thousands of people, who would have normally escaped in the belief that their Towers were on fire, were deliberately kept inside and pulverised.

    9/11 was an American nuclear Holocaust, the third in History after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    It can never be forgotten or forgiven

    https://www.unz.com/article/dorothy-versus-hassan/#comment-4873981
    https://www.unz.com/article/dorothy-versus-hassan/#comment-4880461

    • Replies: @schnellandine
    , @Rurik
  223. @Iris

    If Muslims committed 9/11 massacre and bldg.-destruction in the United States, then there should have been “War On Islam” just like America fought “War On Soviet Communism” for 50 years.

    “War On Terror” is a misnomer.

    Terror can be committed by any entity; because, terror is a tactic.

    Terror is not an ideology.

    Islam is a military-political ideology that masquerades as a religion.

    When Americans utter “War On Terror” instead of “War On Islam”, that is a clear proof that Muslims did not mastermind 9/11 massacre and bldg.-destruction in the United States.

    When American govt. secretly evacuated Saudi families out of the United States, then that was a proof that Saudis did not mastermind 9/11 massacre and bldg.-destruction in the United States.

    The mastermind was someone else.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  224. Ralph234 says:
    @Anonymouse

    I think it was the company called Odio a Jewish company that texted all their employees to stay Home on 9/11. another Jewish company broke its lease just prior to 9/11. There were also the dancing Israeli’s and the Israeli spy ring around that time spies posing as Art students. None of the higher up Jews really care about normal Jews. just like the US nobody cares about the normal peons. In fact the more dead the better for their objective. Most likely 9/11 was a false flag that was sponsored by Saudi Arabia, the US NEOCONS and Mossad. The Saudi’s sent money for training the patsy’s the state department let all the hijackers in, the US government ran drills to confuse the US defences. Also, the US covered up the crime, as well as directed the response. It was odd that there was initially going to be no investigation. that is why the Pentagon missile was key because it could be classified as an act of war instead of just another terrorist strike. acts of war need no investigation. There was a Pearl Harbor movie just prior to 9/11 and Rumsfield wasnallegedly handing out Books about Pearl Harbor. Also there was an Israeli terrorist specialist on one of the planes allegedly. i think of the operation northwoods scenario where thebplanes were swapped some people called from the ground. that is why one of the flight 93 guys made many calls after the plane had already crashed.

    to

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  225. @Iris

    What evidence do you have that the planned eventual demolition of any WTC building was via nuke? Seems bad design to me. Storing withering nuke tech when they could simply be brought in when required?

    Just an editing note, but remember when discussing these things that most people aren’t familiar with the nuke premise. I must’ve just skimmed 2,000 words of yours and repliers before getting straight that you were talking about a somewhat automated system installed from the beginning, from which 30-minute alarms would’ve been started for the other buildings. Next time, might want to have a paragraph near the start outlining that weirdness. It was good to read your replies to Robin, because I was similarly confused (probably because I skimmed).

    9/11 was an American nuclear Holocaust, the third in History after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Have never understood the hostile separation of nukes from other ways of killing thousands. The Tokyo/Dresden/[other] massacres are treated as less onerous because of, seems to me, irrelevant differences.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Replies: @orchardist
  226. @Ralph234

    What happened was that 2 Odigo employees in Israel, nowhere geographically close to the US, received pop-up messages which said nothing about the World Trade Center but implied that something bad was going to happen. It’s unknown whether this was just a coincidence but the 2 Israeli employees reported the incident after they heard about 911 and the Israeli police forwarded the report to the FBI.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030201161145/atnewyork.com/news/article.php/8471_893851

    https://web.archive.org/web/20020607000423/amenusa.org/prior.htm

  227. Druid55 says:
    @Anonymouse

    BS. Three Israelis died, no American Jews. They were pre-warned (odigo). You’re spreading lies. I responded to you in another article’s comments. Zio hack hasbarrist

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  228. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    NO Muslims, and probably no planes (perhaps cruise missiles). The planes from Boston were flown east, over the ocean, into Hurricane Eric, and ditched there, by remote control. Neat, clean, undetectable.
    Cruise missiles COULD have been launched from Israeli submarines, technology to control airliners DEFINITELY from Israel.

  229. Druid55 says:
    @Rurik

    I early christianity the Torah was often considered the work of satan for all the evil in it attributed to god. Modern chrisnity became judaised by evil buggers

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Thanks: Sarah
  230. chris says:
    @Rurik

    Yeah, thanks for putting it all in a bit more of a perspective, Rurik! Yours is what might be called the macro answer to my micro.

    The only minor addendum I might add is the fact that, though, 911 was the last nail in the coffin, the seeds of destruction had been planted in our society long before. What some podcaster called Covid-911 just sealed the deal for our already morally and financially bankrupt society.

    Regarding this point you were making:

    …, but their real goal is the war on ‘domestic terrorists and white supremacists’ in North America and Europe. Nazis, in other words. You, white man and woman.

    I also view this attack as a pre-emptive strike to the heart of the only place the true resistance will emerge from. If they win completely though, as the Soviets did at the revolution, the “whites” were obliterated and never posed another threat to them, and that too might be the fate of whites in the US.

    If there is a silver lining in your overview it might be the fact that you can’t build a successful society on this type of bullying and destruction. These societies are dead in the water from the get-go, but there is a huge amount of suffering imposed on innocent people which will by necessity eventually balance itself out.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  231. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Scottish National Party is hard leftist Marxist anti White Scots and advocates race replacement with black and brown Muslims. The relationship of perfidious Albion with Scotland is bad. But the SNP plans for Scotland are worse.

    What’s the best thing in Scotland?
    The road to England. Oldie but goodie.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Rurik
  232. Z-man says:
    @dimples

    Don’t be cute, yes the fuel ignited the rest of the flammable material on the floors including dropped ceilings, stud work and so on and on top of the major structural damage already done by the impact it led to the eventual collapses. Tower Two went first because the plane went in at a lower level and went in at an angle which caused more impact damage thus coupled with the greater load from more floors above it collapsed first even though it was hit second.

    • Replies: @dimples
    , @remo
  233. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Havana syndrome the handiwork of the Mossad ? Only they would target USA to get some nasty thing done and blame it on Russia or China .
    Only they can do from the soil of India .

  234. “The final question “How did they do it?” ”

    They did it by planting explosives in WTC1, 2, 6 & 7. Only the owner could do it and could cover it.
    Then to cover the whole attack and let it happen to the end, only the government could do it.

    “Do the orders still stand?” Yes, they do.

    • Replies: @Dube
  235. geokat62 says:
    @Alden

    Scottish National Party is hard leftist Marxist anti White Scots and advocates race replacement with black and brown Muslims.

    Ah, yes. Good ‘ole Scotland (he says with the heaviest burr he can muster). Like the rest of the West, Scotland has been subverted by the Jewish Supremacist ideology of wokeism.

    They actually had the chutzpah to get one of their trained seals to actually lecture Scottish parliamentarians that Scotland has a problem. It’s full of Scots.

    I’m of course referring to the Pakistani MSP, Humza Yousaf.

    Here’s the video of this human excrement giving his lecture.

    SNP Justice Minister Humza Yousaf Racism speech to Scottish Parliament

    Here’s the transcript of the most inflammatory segment of his anti-white… I mean “anti-racist” speech:

    Some people have been surprised or taken aback by my mention on my social media that at 99 per cent of the meetings that I go to, I am the only non-white person in the room.

    Why are we so surprised when the most senior positions in Scotland are filled almost exclusively by people who are white?

    Take my portfolio, for example. The Lord President: white. The Lord Justice Clerk: white. Every High Court judge: white. The Lord Advocate: white. The Solicitor-General: white. The chief constable [of Police Scotland]: white. Every deputy chief constable: white. Every assistant chief constable: white. The head of the Law Society: white. The head of the Faculty of Advocates: white. Every prison governor: white.

    [And] it’s not just justice.
    The chief medical officer: white. The chief nursing officer: white. The chief veterinary officer: white. The chief social work adviser: white. Almost every trade union in the country headed by people who are white.

    In the Scottish Government, every director-general is white. Every chair of every public body is white.

    That is not good enough.

    Now, we all know who wrote the script for this POS.

    To test the genuineness of what he had to say before the Scottish Parliament, I challenge this ingrate to give the exact same speech before the Israeli Knesset, but with one slight modification… Every time he said the word “white” (18 times), with all the disdain he could muster, he replaces it with the word “Jew” and says it with the same level of disdain.

    Do you think this (dis)honourable member of the Scottish Parliament would accept this challenge?

    How do you say “Hell, no!” in Urdu?

  236. @Druid55

    This contains a list of some of the Jewish fatalities of 911, as well as more general demographic projections about likely Jewish deaths overall,

    https://web/archive.org/web/20050408072925/http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html

    The Odigo story never said what you imagine it said. There was no mention of the World Trade Center and the only 2 people who were ever contacted were 2 Israeli employees who informed their higher-ups about the messages after they heard of the attack. No one was told to stay away from the WTC through Odigo.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20020607000423/amenusa.org/prior.htm

    “workers in Odigo’s .. office in Israel received a warning from another Odigo user…”

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030201161145/atnewyork.com/news/article.php/8741_893851

    “the IMs did not mention the World Trade Center specifically or any other targets.”

    • Replies: @bjondo
  237. Dube says:
    @Olivier1973

    Well noted:

    “Do the orders still stand?” Yes, they do.

  238. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Eric Striker:

    Court documents are now coming out that show Trump, Rudy, etc worked together with shit tier alt media to promote claims about election fraud they knew were false all along.

    The goal was to scam their supporters out of another \$300 million post-election to pad Trump and co’s pockets.

    It’s true that the Judeo-left in power lies, is corrupt and wants to kill us. You should never trust them. But its also true that the fake opposition to it, including Trumpism, is just a small time scam looking to capitalize on opposition to the system to line their own pockets.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trumpism-dominion-it-was-all-a-grift/

    https://t.me/EricStrikerTRS/10629

  239. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Face_The_Truth

    If Muslims committed 9/11 massacre and bldg.-destruction in the United States, then there should have been “War On Islam” just like America fought “War On Soviet Communism” for 50 years.

    But race/religion doesn’t matter, say the ((Jews)), so they’d never declare a “War on Islam.” They would, however, declare a “War on Islamofascism,” and the ((neocons)) tried to do just that.

    What we really need is a War on Judeofascism. They’re the entity that attacked America on 9/11. They’re the entity that has been waging hot war against the West for over a century. They’re the entity who’s 5th Column false-flagged America into a “War on Islamofascism.”

    Just imagine the looks on their faces when the Judeofascists and Zionists are arrested for their treason. “But, but, but…We’re the Chosen! It says so right there in the Bible! You can’t arrest us! The rules don’t apply to us! They’re for the little people!”

    And the earth is just 6,000 years old too, right Shlomo?

    They’re going to get a painful introduction to reality. And it’s not even going to take a lobotomy to get those self-certain ((Jewish)) supremacist delusions out of their stiff-necked skulls, just a massive dose of 9/11 truth.

  240. @Sean

    ‘…I don’t see Saddam as a prime mover in the suicide bombings at all.’

    Perhaps — but Israel appears to have felt differently.

  241. bjondo says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.5410231

    Odigo: Forewarned Israelis to stay away hours before the attack.

    Odigo was founded by Avner and Maskit Ronen, and later acquired by Israeli fraudster fugitive Kobi Alexander’s Comverse, the biggest of many Israeli spying companies embedded in America’s surveillance infrastructure. Israeli-owned Odigo instant messaging service based in Herzliya, Israel, had an office less than 3 blocks from the WTC complex.

    Odigo – Israeli owned instant messaging service used by Hebrew-speaking Israelis to warn one another of the attack before it happened. Only one Israeli may have died. The warning seemed to have work as 4000 Israelis were expected in or around the towers on 9/11 but none showed up.

    [MORE]

    Odigo publicly claimed that at least 2 of its workers received text messages warning them of the impending 9/11 attack hours ahead of time. The message was specific and precise: Alex Diamandis, vice president of Odigo said, “The messages said something big was going to happen in a certain amount of time, and it did – almost to the minute.” 4000 Israelis were expected at the World Trade Center on 9/11, according to the Israeli foreign ministry and the Jerusalem Post. None of them showed up to work. One Israeli allegedly died at the WTC on 9/11, a passenger on a plane. David Frum, Bush’s Zionist speechwriter, however, inflated the number of Israelis dead to 130 and made sure Bush mentioned it. Alon Pinkas, Israel’s consul general in NY openly refuted this masonic figure. The passenger on the plane? Allegedly, none other than Daniel Lewin, an elite assassin and “counter-terrorism” hijacking expert of Sayaret Matkal, secret Israeli military intelligence. Nothing weird about that at all.

    So who was the message sent to? Odigo allows messages to be sent to anyone filtered by many different categories, including nationality. It has become apparent that these messages were sent in Hebrew to Israeli citizens working at or near the WTC complex. Odigo, widely used in Israel, later refused to give more details that would assist with an investigation saying through a spokesman in the Washington Post on 9/28/01, “Providing more details would only lead to more conjecture.”

    How convenient. The enraged American public was deceived into venting anger and frustration by killing innocent Muslims, Sikhs and other brown people in the wake of 9/11. Somehow, still, Odigo has been allowed withhold pertinent information that could lead to the real suspects who knew details of the attack and warned some, who incidentally didn’t warn others. This simple act of treason by the company and the dual-citizens has led to the deaths of 3000 on 9/11 and millions more in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan in the endless War on Terror it spawned.

    Somebody knew.

    5 dancing shlomos

  242. Dr. Doom says:

    Do you really want to know? Its so simple a retard could do it.
    The World Trade Center is an office building. It has no permanent residents.
    After hours, its just the security details that are there.

    The towers were owned by a Jew. Insured for twice its value beforehand.
    There were reports of “construction” going on there prior to the event.
    Probably the perfect cover for putting in the explosives.

    There probably were no planes at all. Not involved in the attacks.
    The B-1 bomber has a holographic system that can project phantom planes.
    A B-1 bomber made a run through Manhattan on September 11th.

    The holes were probably made by thermite. Aluminum cannot penetrate.
    The first explosion came from below, and the top afterwards of the “attack”.
    The fire was no doubt from thermite. Probably in the paint form.

    “Al-Queda” is a CIA and MOSSAD front. Much like “ISIS” is now.
    Osama Bin Laden was dead when the attacks were made.
    “Osama” on the tape looks like a CIA agent playing a role.

    The planes disappeared. The people on them were probably CIA and MOSSAD.
    There was no wreckage or black boxes found anywhere.
    The Pentagon was hit with a missile. To kill an investigation.

    Trillions have been stolen from the Pentagon budget.
    That’s why Russia and China are surpassing the US in military capability.
    The Zion Pigs are a Cancer killing the West. They must be DESTROYED.

  243. @ImaBotKnot

    NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT – 9/11 PENTAGON ATTACK

    What can we do when every institution of the Government, Military, Banking, Corporate, Media structures are fully infested and compromised by Illuminati Globalist Forces???

  244. Ron Unz says:
    @Che Guava

    A small point that continually is a puzzle to me is, why is Silvestein or Silberstein always named, but ‘Frank Lowy’ never is.

    I reached the point where I was thinking I must have been imagining things, so tried a search on ‘Frank Lowy World Trade Center’ on Duck Duck.

    I think it’s just that Silverstein was based in NYC and much more actively involved in the WTC. Meanwhile, Lowy was based in Australia, but far wealthier.

    However, as a former Israeli who had fought in the Israeli military in 1948, Lowy’s personal ties to the Israeli government and Mossad were probably at least as strong as those of his business partner, Silverstein.

    • Thanks: Che Guava
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  245. @bjondo

    That was just careless phraseology by Haaretz. As is typical of 911truthers, the one sloppy report is perpetually cited to give the impression of something which never actually occurred

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030201161145/atnewyork.com/news/article.php/8471_893851

    —–
    “Without going into details, the message was most noteworthy due to the timing, not due to the substance of the ‘warning.’ It could easily be coincidence,” Diamandis said.
    —–

    No reference to the WTC was ever made in the message. It was just a spooky enough message to get right before a big terror strike occurred that the employees felt obligated to report it. Now because of one confused early report published by Haaretz we’ll have several generations of 911truthers repeating the completely false claim that the message somewhere mentioned the WTC when it said nothing about any specific locale.

    • Replies: @bjondo
  246. Sarah says:
    @JLK

    As you can see in this image, Building 6 has formed something of a crater….

    Is that Building 7 in the background?

    Maybe; see the plan on post Nr 136 :

    If the building in the background of WTC6 is WTC7, the last one had almost no dommage in comparison to WTC6.

    • Replies: @Iris
  247. @bjondo

    “4000 Israelis were expected in or around the towers on 9/11 but none showed up.”

    This is another silly misquote. The original phrase in The Jerusalem Post which this came from said:

    “The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attacks.”

    Not only does this include the Pentagon along with the World Trade Center, but a phrase like “areas of” can be assumed to encompass a region of at least 1 square mile around both the Towers and the Pentagon individually. There is absolutely no evidence that a single one of these 4000 Israelis failed to show up anywhere that they would usually appear. It’s normal that in the chaos after an event like this people will appear to be missing for a while until communications are restored. That would have caused some worry which was reported by The Jerusalem Post.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  248. Robjil says:
    @Patrick McNally

    The evidence of what happened was so quickly destroyed. Why and by whom? Odigo and the Dancing Israelis is something that one can dance around the facts. Evidence being destroyed can not be danced around.

    https://911review.com/coverup/groundzero.html

    Two New Jersey companies were among the bidders that won the contract for removing more than 60,000 tons of Trade Center scrap. Metal Management Northeast bought 40,000 tons, and Hugo Neu Schnitzer bought 25,000 tons. Neu Schnitzer East is one of the largest scrap recyclers in the nation. President Alan Ratner of Metal Management said the company had bought 70,000 tons of scrap steel by January of 2002.

    Controlled Demolition Inc. (CDI) appeared to be key player in the expedient removal and recycling of the steel. CDI was retained by Tully Construction Co. Inc, one of the site’s four cleanup management contractors. On September 22, 2001, CDI submitted a 25-page “preliminary” document to New York City’s Department of Design and Construction, which approved the plan. The commissioner of New York City’s Department of Design and Construction and the man in charge of Ground Zero cleanup efforts was Kenneth Holden.

    Weeks Marine Inc. created two steel offloading areas at Pier 25 and Pier 6 in the last week of September to accelerate the removal of steel.
    Great Lakes Dredge and Dock Co. was awarded a contract for \$790,500 to deepen the Pier 6 site to facilitate barge removal of debris.

    https://bollyn.com/hugo-neu-and-the-giuliani-partners-who-destroyed-the-steel-of-911

    – Robert A. Kelman, General Manager of Hugo Neu Schnitzer East, who managed the destruction of 250,000 tons of steel from the World Trade Center by sending it to Asian smelters, far from the prying eyes of 9/11 investigators.
    Source: Quinn, William, “Recycling a Disaster”, NJBIZ, 16 October 2001

  249. Rurik says:
    @Z-man

    The Port Authority was exempt from following the NYC Building Code bach in the 60’s when the Towers were designed and built. They used a high tech, for the time, space frame design which lightened the structure but factored in for plane impact and also for a pancake collapse. What they didn’t factor in was the heat from the burning jet fuel which accelerated the collapse.

    Building Seven was built in 1987, and wasn’t hit by any plane.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  250. bjondo says:
    @Patrick McNally

    The old witch gets hit with water,
    the guilty Yid gets hit with truth,
    one dissolves in sin, the other hides
    his sin, is sin, worships sin.

    Well, I’ve just wasted one of my two
    allotted UR comments per day.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Troll: Che Guava
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  251. Rurik says:
    @Iris

    fleeing people sent back into the blazing South Tower, only to meet the horrible death they’d tried to escape.

    Hello Iris,

    Not to split hairs, but it was the second tower not yet struck by a jet, that they were told to return to.

    Few knew they were doomed if they did, but Lucky knew. Of that we can all be very certain.

    I’m agnostic on the issue of nukes (or directed energy weapons or what exactly hit the Pentagon, providing we all agree it wasn’t a passenger jet).

    For all I know, they have weapons that I can’t even conceive of, let alone what specifically was used on that day, other than the obvious fact that we’ve all been lied to.

    It can never be forgotten or forgiven

    I could not possibly agree more, Iris.

  252. @schnellandine

    scale, magnitude, ease of transportability, and very low cost per erg

    KISS

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  253. Che Guava says:
    @Ron Unz

    I would say, likely stronger, which is why talk of ‘Lowy’s’ role in the insurance swindle is so suppressed. Of course, they would try to obscure the money train, but records should remain. Likely destroyed in secret, like those of the stock speculations based on foreknowledge.

  254. Rurik says:
    @DirtyHarriet

    I am one such Christian.

    God bless!

    But where are the others?

    Where are the Christian churches and organizations that openly repudiate what’s being done to Christians in Palestine? And demand an accounting.

    Where are the Christian churches that refuse to send money and aid to foreigners or bring foreigners in, until every Christian in their own communities is housed and fed?

    Let me ask you, DirtyHarriet – what would be the reaction in pretty much every single Christian church of every denomination (except Obama’s black supremacist churches), if George W. Bush were to walk in the sanctuary, and wave at the congregation?

    Wild cheers, is what I’d suspect. Groveling, grinning, ebullient faces all. Even at the church were George Washington used to visit, and has since had his honorary plaque removed because now they’re so ‘woke’, that they’re ashamed that George Washington used to worship in their church.

    To me, you have to be human before you can be a Christian, and these types are more worm than human. (With apologies to actual worms, who never had an option to be anything else)

  255. Che Guava says:
    @bjondo

    My ‘troll’ was ill-considered, sorry, however, you do appear to be one of that, or extremely stupid, or a paid propagandist for the Zio-state who isn’t much good at it.

  256. Rurik says:
    @chris

    If there is a silver lining in your overview it might be the fact that you can’t build a successful society on this type of bullying and destruction.

    “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” – Netanyahu

    They specifically don’t want a successful society. They want chaos, strife, hatred, division, and competing tribes all with their knives out.

    That is heaven to these people.

    As they use Wall Street and DC to loot every last shred of wealth from America, they’ll buy up things of value elsewhere, and be nicely positioned to lord over the ruins of the U.S. Picking at the carcass and amusing themselves with the desperate and destitute (especially white) people (who they hate with an insane psychosis).

    That isn’t hyperbole, it’s what their rabbis say and what’s written in their religious, ultra-supremacist screeds.

    David Duke’s books are the subject of a article here on TUR. People should read his books, because he allows Jewish supremacists to explain it all in their own words.

    • Replies: @chris
  257. Sparkon says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    It seems the building blew up!

    No, it doesn’t seem that way at all. I’ve previously addressed this point in at least two of my comments at UR.

    Photo: Dr. Judy Wood

    I wrote:

    “The photograph illustrates that WTC 6 was smashed and torn open by falling debris, including external box column sections, unique to the Twin Towers, shown lying within the ruins of Bldg. 6. All the protruding debris within the building is hanging down, and a big gouge is visible on a slab of concrete hanging within the structure.

    There is no sign of a blast or any upward force despite what your imagination told you.”

    https://www.unz.com/runz/seeking-9-11-truth-after-twenty-years/?showcomments#comment-4908611

    It really does get to be tedious refuting the same nonsense over and over and over again at Unz Review. One could easily think there is a clown car parked nearby that unloads a seemingly unending parade of bozos parroting the same misinformation.

    By the way, your opening paragraph is a direct quote from commenter Grieves at the Metabunk article you linked, but you failed to use either quotation marks or the blockquote tag. You also failed to note Mick West’s conclusion that WTC 6 was holed out by debris falling from WTC 1.

    • Replies: @utu
  258. @orchardist

    KISS

    “Ah, nukes. Yes. Let’s keep it simple.”

    Coincidentally, the title of my next book.

  259. Rurik says:
    @Alden

    Scottish National Party is hard leftist

    Geo’s video sort of says it all.

    and of course the ‘solution’ is the same. Rape.

    https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5215881/police-scotland-glasgow-grooming-gang-secret/

  260. @gabon 45

    The original fireproofing was wet applied asbestos. NYC required them to stop using, although they allowed it to stay in place on the lower floors. So, yes, the fireproofing was of the same spec in the entire building, but it was stopped by the building department. The aircraft strikes too place above the level where the wet applied asbestos was stopped in both buildings.

    I’m not shilling for anything but the facts. I’m also a Professional Engineer. The structural engineering firm can not be sued because the orders came from the building authority, not the engineers. When the engineer’s specs are changed by anyone other than the engineer of record, the “anyone” assume responsibility for the outcomes resulting from that change.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  261. @Zorton the Cruel

    It’s quite easy to open ones mouth without lying. Just deal with the facts. Even if the fires had burned themselves out, which they had not, the building was not brought down by explosives. Neither of the twin towers fell into their own footprint.

  262. @Contraviews

    Thermite is not an explosive, it’s an incendiary.

    The speed limit below 10,000 feet is 250 knots. Check the FAA regs if you are too ignorant to believe me. When you have a loaded AC in the 200 to 400K pounds, 250 knots yields more momentum than is needed for the AC to punch through the building. High rise buildings are not designed to stand that kind of lateral force. The resulting fuel fires were sufficient to compromise the steel strength sufficiently to cause their collapse as the steel was not properly fireproofed above the floor where NYC ordered the contractor to stop using wet applied asbestos.

    Ni, I am not saying the AC were not flying above 250 knots. They were in fact, probably doing well in excess of that. Probably closer to 400 knots.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  263. Why has not a single plane part from any of the 4 impact sites been identified? This is the hoax of the century if not the millennia. I’m not sure how they pulled this off but it wasn’t airplanes flying into buildings. There are pictures of survivors waving from the “airplane impact holes” with no raging inferno of jet fuel. The 747 engine planted by the FBI on the street below pretty much is all you need to know. You think they could have gotten that one right.

  264. Iris says:
    @Sarah

    If the building in the background of WTC6 is WTC7, the last one had almost no damage in comparison to WTC6.

    Hi Sarah; thanks for the objective and factual research.

    The building which shows almost no damage is the Verizon Building, a 32-storey construction located to the West/ left of WTC7, and to the North/up to WTC6 in the map below.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Building

    It is a quite recognisable construction, thanks to the succession of arc-shaped vaults at its ground floor, alongside Vesey St.

    In the photo below, one can see :
    – The standing Verizon Building to the top left corner.
    – WTC7 already collapsed in the right top corner.

    By comparing WTC7 to the Verizon standing next to it, one can confirm that its 47 storeys had been reduced to barely 2 storeys of debris.

    So while a conventional controlled demolition results in a pile of debris about 30% of the building’s initial height, WTC7 was reduced to less than 5% of its own.

    Contrary to what the trolls and the government tell us, it is visible that the Verizon, which was 15 storeys lower than WTC7, wasn’t crushed by any “falling debris” from WTC7. It received only minor damage from the 9/11 events, and is standing to the day.

    [MORE]

    At the centre, the gaping hole is what used to be WTC6.
    Just below it is what remained of the North Tower peripheral outer steel structure, with almost nothing, barely 2 storeys of debris in the middle.

    So, unlike what the trolls and the government tell us, the 110 storeys that used to make up the North Tower, and that should have left a 30 storey pile of debris, have simply “vanished”.

    They have, neither fallen onto WTC6 and destroyed it, nor piled up into the North Tower’s footprint.

    I will add another piece of information, simple enough but apparently too hard to comprehend for the Hasbara village idiots who tirelessly expose their “genius” theories on 9/11.

    The elevations of the WTC were scientifically measured by LIDAR 3-D laser scanning after it collapsed. These elevations were found to be negative, i.e. to be lower than street level where there should have been a 30+ storey pile of debris.

    These negative elevations (at minus 20 metres below street level in red) can be seen around the South Tower (to the right), around the North Tower in the middle, with the last being the gaping hole in the middle of WTC6 to the left.

    So not only the Towers did not leave any significant pile of debris behind, they actually left the contrary, they left gaping holes, negative elevations.

    So unlike what we are told by the trolls, the Israelis and the village idiots, the Towers did not even collapse as would happen in conventional controlled demolition with conventional chemical explosives, including nanothermite: they “disappeared”, they were pulverised and disintegrated.

    This was not magic: magic, giant DEW and other crackpottery do not exist in the real world.

    The disintegration of the Twin Towers was the result of nuclear blasts, which associated pressure shockwave presents such powerful frequency fronts that they can destroy matter at the molecular level and pulverise it.

    https://www.atomicarchive.com/science/effects/blast-wave.html

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  265. Some say it was all just a coincidence.

    Reminds me of THE GRADUATE. “How about this for a coincidence?”

    Of course, it was no coincidence. Ben made up his mind that he’s gonna get Elaine Robinson no matter what.
    His zeal and attack on the church isn’t much different in kind from the Neocon zeal that almost certainly was behind 9/11 and brought down the Twin Towers. But let’s pretend it’s all just a coincidence.
    Zionists did some stalking for 9/11 like Ben stalked Elaine.

  266. @ImaBotKnot

    https://history.defense.gov/Multimedia/Biographies/Article-View/Article/571273/alfred-goldberg/

    From 1946 to 1965, Dr. Goldberg worked for the U.S. Air Force Historical Division as a senior historian. During that period, in addition to earning a Ph.D. in history from The Johns Hopkins University in 1950, he was a Visiting Fellow at Kings College, University of London in 1962–63; a lecturer at the University of Maryland for many years; and a recipient of a Social Science Research Council Fellowship.

    In 1964 Chief Justice Earl Warren brought him onto the Warren Commission staff, where Dr. Goldberg served as a historical advisor and as co-author and co-editor of the Warren Commission Report.

    From 1965 to 1973, Dr. Goldberg was a senior staff member at RAND and also lectured at the University of Southern California and the University of California at Los Angeles.

    Also interesting for example in Abba Ebban’s autobiography he states that Jim Novy introduced Ebban and Johnson, 10 yrs before the assassination of JFK and that at the time of the assassination JFK was not going to allow the sale of Phantom Jets to Israel ( so maybe Israeli leadership was not just upset by the lack of cooperation with the nukes issue, but also with the jets issue.) Note that Novy is Jewish and has connections to the scrap metal business which ties back into getting rid of the steel on 9/11. Wikipedia Jim Novy.

  267. @Rurik

    I confess I don’t watch much of Wiles, but the videos I’ve seen of him tearing into Jewish supremacism and its rot of our society, are great, IMHO.

    Agree, but it might be schadenfreude or confirmation bias or something like that.

    What concerns me more about TruNews programming is Wiles’ persistent bashing of China, and urging that Christians proselytize China. The Chinese will become worthy once they come to acknowledge Jesus as Wiles & similar do.

    In my view, this is an American “original sin,” one borrowed by American Christians from Hebrew Scriptures. American Christians imbue themselves with “choseness” as successors to Jewish choseness.

    Roman Catholic expression of this “exceptionalism” and mandate to bring all the world to believe in the one true god, is slightly less overt, but not absent: Jews, Catholics-Christians, and Muslims are branches of the tree of Abraham, and the essential characteristic of Abrahamism (in my assessment) is: Abrahamics have a lock on the OneTrueGod-truth; it is necessary for all peoples everywhere to believe in that OneTrueGod; it is the right and even obligation of Abrahamics to proselytize, even unto death, all others to bring them to that belief.

    This mindset has become the secular religion as Joe Biden issued the Credo at the UN the other day.

    That’s why I say Christianity is in need of profound reformation — its central belief about itself is flawed — no, not merely flawed, but arrogant — and needs to be eradicated.

    I’d like to know a lot more about Walter Grundmann’s theology in Germany in the 1930s to early 1950: Grundmann sought to re-define Christianity for Germans with Hebrew/OldTestament removed (sounds a lot like Marcionism).

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Rurik
  268. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    What concerns me more about TruNews programming is Wiles’ persistent bashing of China…

    I agree. Very disappointing and discouraging.

    That said, I think it’s probably a defence mechanism to take off some of the heat placed on him by the likes of the ADL/SPLC.

    He’s disclosed he’s received numerous death threats and they’re understandably taking a toll on him.

    As I’ve said before, we can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. We’re fortunate to have Phil doing his best to wake up secular goys to the JQ and Rick Wiles doing the same to the religious goys. It makes for a powerful one-two punch.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  269. @Quartermaster

    High rise buildings are not designed to stand that kind of lateral force.

    I don’t care overmuch how the 9/11/2001 scam was executed, but seems puzzling that you wouldn’t at least obliquely address the thousand iterations of alleged official designer quotes such as:

    The buildings have been investigated and found to be safe in an assumed collision with a large jet airliner (Boeing 707—DC 8) traveling at 600 miles per hour.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  270. @Iris

    The foundation and the walls of the Verizon building included concrete and steel.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/electronic-records/rg-079/NPS_NY/09000257.pdf

    That doesn’t seem comparable to the WTC structures.

  271. utu says:
    @ImaBotKnot

    Thanks for the CIT video on Pentagon.

  272. @geokat62

    we can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. We’re fortunate to have Phil doing his best to wake up secular goys to the JQ and Rick Wiles doing the same to the religious goys. It makes for a powerful one-two punch.

    Yup

  273. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    schadenfreude or confirmation bias or something like that.

    naw, just an honest assessment, once you’ve connected the dots

    Wiles’ persistent bashing of China

    what did Jesus say about railing over the speck in someone else’s eye, when they have a giant timber protruding from their own?

    Perhaps it would be one thing if Wiles was silly and deluded enough to consider America as still his country. And China a rival of sorts. But America is no longer a nation for and of Heritage Americans, black/white, Christian or otherwise. It belongs to the billionaire oligarchs and Zionists. We’re their two-legged farm animals / consumer units. Cannon fodder and tax-debt slaves. For Americans to froth at China, is like a dog dying of tick infestation growling at other dogs, as he dying from his own ticks.

    It would be better for him to deal with the ticks that are killing him, than to worry about the other dogs that are looking at his cozy bed and hunting grounds, that will soon be available due to a vacancy.

    It’s not China’s fault that America is dying. It’s American’s fault, for shipping the manufacturing offshore, and importing tens of millions of illiterate Third Worlders, because it suits the billionaire oligarchs and Zionists (America’s ticks) to do so.

    It was America who committed suicide. No one pushed her off the cliff. She jumped. Now that there are other nations who’re picking up the slack that America’s suicide has left in the world, is not their fault. Americans were simply too cowardly and corrupt to pay attention to the ticks that were eating her from the inside-out. Is it the rival dog’s fault, when the alpha dog won’t scratch it’s own ((ticks))?

    Someone has to take his place.

    American Christians imbue themselves with “choseness” as successors to Jewish choseness.

    The exceptional people. (as I see you noted ; )

    Jews, Catholics-Christians, and Muslims are branches of the tree of Abraham, and the essential characteristic of Abrahamism (in my assessment) is: Abrahamics have a lock on the OneTrueGod-truth; it is necessary for all peoples everywhere to believe in that OneTrueGod; it is the right and even obligation of Abrahamics to proselytize, even unto death, all others to bring them to that belief.

    Yes, hard to argue with that. And the rivers of blood spilled over some obscure contextual interpretation of how exactly the OneTrueGod demands his children worship Him. Shi’a, or Sunni, Catholic, or Protestant, Jehovah, or Jesus.

    I find it tragically amusing that Christians and Jews both refer to America’s so-called ‘Judeo-Christian heritage’, while Christians worship Jesus as their living God, and Jews damn Him as an abomination to their God, boiling in excrement for all eternity. Oh well, no matter- so long as you believe in Him.

    That’s why I say Christianity is in need of profound reformation -..

    Grundmann sought to re-define Christianity for Germans with Hebrew/OldTestament removed (sounds a lot like Marcionism).

    Humans are spiritual beings. They/we have a deep need for a greater truth than just eating and rutting and sleeping. I feel it too.

    But this need has been cynically abused by charlatans for their own agendas, usually wealth and power. As we all see today with the TV preachers and their fleets of private jets. Or Dubya saying ‘Jesus’ so he’ll get elected.

    I don’t know if it’s Christianity per se that’s our problem, but rather a sort of laziness and decadence that comes with the unprecedented accomplishments of Western man in the last few centuries. We now push buttons or take pills when we used to have to harness oxen in the snow and sharpen swords.

    For myself, I wouldn’t care if it were a Christian or secular or something movement that would rally our people to defend themselves, and start noticing the ticks that are killing them.

    But there sure is a lot of rot in the church today, most notably in the Vatican. But also in the protestant denominations as well.

    We need a modern-day Saint Isabella, or Charles ‘The Hammer’ Martel, or even an obscure corporal from the trenches, who’s passion and love for his people transcends the challenges that menace our world.

    If it be Christian, or secular, or some combination there of, fine by me.

    We just have to figure out something fast, or soon, it will all be lost.

  274. dimples says:
    @Ken Meyercord

    Maybe not. Here is a photo of N612UA (Flight 175) claimed to have been taken on 31 July 2001.

    https://www.airliners.net/photo/United-Airlines/Boeing-767-222/188174

    Its possible (I guess) that these registers are only updated yearly in December and were not updated for 2001 after planes crashed. This does not explain Flight 77’s plane having no record of course.

    • Replies: @Ken Meyercord
  275. dimples says:
    @Z-man

    Where am i being cute? I was repeating exactly what you said the first time and now the second time.

  276. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    What’s really offensive is someone who’s written reams and reams of self absorbed rambling criticizing a well constructed argument.

    • LOL: Jonathan Revusky
  277. dimples says:

    Plenty of images of N644AA (Flight 77) Here is one from 2001-02 (scroll down)

    https://www.jetphotos.com/registration/N644AA

  278. One cannot but admire the sheer audacity of the persons in high places, who coined history’s most calculated terror attack in such a way to chime in with America’s Emergency Phone Number: 9-1-1.

  279. @dimples

    You used the appropriate word there: “claimed”. Not much internal evidence as to when or where that photo was taken (if it wasn’t just photoshopped anyway). Interesting that the person commenting on the photo chose to remain anonymous.

  280. bjondo says:
    @dimples

    try September Clues by Simon Shack.

    Ace Baker part of the program.

    ‘Debunkers’ using team members to debunk.

    5 dancing shlomos

  281. The 585 page 9/11 Commission Report should be the starting point and Bible to all who want to discover the truth and debunk the official version of 9/11.
    First, authors of the 9/11 Commission Report should be scrutinized and held accountable for all the content and aspects of the report.
    This can only be done by a reputable news outlet armed with experienced investigative journalists. The journalist should demand interviews with every member of the commission and document verbatim all of the answers given to their questions.
    The documentation obtained should then be analyzed and taken apart for omissions, inconsistencies and outright falsehoods uttered by clearly identifiable members of 9/11 panel.
    When published, the final result of this inquiry will carry much more weight in the public opinion than the myriad of cospiratry theories on market today.

  282. Mulegino1 says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    Exactly!

    The air raid on Pearl Harbor was a credible event- even if provoked and allowed to proceed by the FDR administration.

    By contrast, the official narrative of 9/11 is worse and less plausible than those old “B” horror movies.

  283. Anon[929] • Disclaimer says:
    @Maddaugh

    Very clear-minded, courageous thoughts and observations.

    However, you realize that some “rebel” columnists, bloggers, websites, would lose their jobs, and/or places in the political scene, if more people became aware of what you pointed out.

  284. Anon[929] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick McNally

    This time around you expectably didn’t get any answers yet. However, being labeled “troll” is sometimes a compliment — it means you ask uncomfortable questions. So you got no answers, but an unintended compliment.

  285. @Carlton Meyer

    The aluminum wings sliced through the thin aluminum *cladding* of towers.
    Said wings were then obliterated upon encountering the structural steel just inside the cladding.

    Thanks for playing!

    • Replies: @JLK
  286. @ImaBotKnot

    What you can do is find your manhood and bell the cat.

    To use something’s true name is to have some power over it.

    “Jews” is no longer a four letter word.

  287. I really do not see how the Jewish People think they can survive the information age without changing their evil ways. Maybe they see it too, and that is why they are running this Reset gambit for total control.

    • Replies: @carroll price
  288. @schnellandine

    Anyone that thinks that simply needs to look at the video of the aircraft running into the towers. It gives the lie to such claims. As with so many things we have seen from the oligarchs, it was a lie. Parts of the aircraft blew completely through the buildings. There was no need to deal with the lies of the so called designers. The videos did that quite well.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  289. JLK says:
    @Zorton the Cruel

    Aluminum can’t cut steel, but with enough momentum it can cause tensile stresses within the steel that can cause a steel structural member to rupture. A few of the prefab steel members on the outside of the building did rupture, but, notwithstanding what FEMA and NIST said, I doubt it did much damage to any of the core columns. How would they know, it was all hidden from view.

  290. JM says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Even better than that, I know from personal communication, that not one of the Hans Blix team of experts in the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission believed the pentagon was hit by plane.

  291. @Quartermaster

    The impact videos don’t belie the alleged assertion of the designer(s), nor could they. What run contra the alleged statement are the collapses, the reasons for which are, of course, contested. If something materially more than airliner, designer statement not sullied by collapse.

  292. Dr Giraldi,
    I greatly enjoy and appreciate your work, but it also terrifies me. Just how large and compartmentalized is the CIA, or are you still bound by NDAs from revealing certain things? Not sure how you feel about Dr. Michael Schuer and his work, but between you and him ( who ran the bin laden unit), all indications I get are that this sort of stuff was ” abovevyour paygrade.”
    So if this conspiracy runs so deep at the highest levels that even men with doctorates working directly on some of these problems don’t seem to know the real story, what chance do avg people have?
    Just how evil and out of control is this goddamned thing and is there any possible way to stop it? The idea that these people let 3,000 of the people they were tasked to defend die horrible deaths just for financal gain and loyalty to Israel…. I mean they HAD to know about Epstein and that their own young girls were being exploited and just allowed it to go on… we are so doomed as a nation.
    For whatever the Pheonix Program whatever evil was engaged in there, at least it was not ained at Americans themselves. I truly fear for where this nation is headed with an intelligence agency that allows a diabolically, amoral foreign entity to prey on it’s own children? This nation is sick unto death.

  293. I’m thinking a good number if 9/11 victims were fabricated to make it seem worse. That said, a good number of firefighters were murdered in cold blood by the system they served. Kind of makes USS Liberty look like a training exercise.

  294. Many comments are heartening, but too many even in this choir are fooled beyond rescue.

    On that day in September 2001 when the news broke and I watched the towers fall and the whole country plummet into War Psychosis, I knew in my heart it was the most sickening false flag black op seen in generations. A year later I moved to NYC and got involved in 911 Truth. Well, tried to, that is, only to discover it was already a three ring circus of Jew moles and their corrupt race-traitor henchmen running interference to make sure the Truth would stay safe forever.

    I watched first-hand as these Jews tabled and trumpeted “controlled demolition” as “The Idea that will expose the whole thing,” before anyone outside the inner circle of 9-11 skeptics had ever heard of it. What it in fact did was reduce the movement to idiots galloping in a gerbil wheel forever, never accomplishing anything– just like they knew it would. It was a Master Stroke that finally opened my eyes completely to what “Jews” are really doing and what they have always done.

    By making “controlled demolition” its pivotal cause celebre, they did to 9-11 Truth the same thing they did to WW-II by making “holocaust denial” the Main Event for doubters of that narrative.

    They reduced the whole discussion of WW-II to endless minutiae of “what the Nazis did or didn’t do to those POOR HELPLESS JEWS, blah blah blah,” ad infinitum, until the doubters had ground themselves into irrelevant pariah dust. They removed the subject of themselves from the discussion as anything other than “Helpless Victims,” when they’re actually the eminence grise behind the world wars and “communism” in their entirety.

    And they did the same thing to 9-11 Truth with “controlled demolition.” They reduced it to endless bickering about technical subjects of buildings, etc., in which 90-plus percent of the arguers are either a) technical imbeciles who have NO IDEA what they’re maundering on about. They actually think sopping up 300,000 hours of Hollywood and internet tropes from birth makes them “experts.” Or b) Jews working the crowd, keeping the argument whipped up just right.

    To get sucked into these arguments is to LOSE, right there, and for them to win. Right there they’ve got you fighting amongst yourselves over irrelevant bullshit when you need to NEVER EVER take your eyes off the Jew Satan skulking through the shadows all around you. What are they doing?

    They are Satanic occultists who cast spells of deception. That is their actual religion, theology, and racial nature. The conformists who defend the Official Narrative are their spellbound idiots, but so are “Truthers.” That is what they do and what they have always done.

  295. Phillip Marshall’s book False Flag 911 shows that the pilots who flew the Boeing 767s had to be very skilled and had received extensive training. Marshall flew 767s (and also assisted Barry Seals with moving drugs).
    His book is very interesting.
    Marshall believes Prince Bandar and USA neocons were in on it.

    • Replies: @Puddin Tane
  296. @Stoic_seeker

    I really do not see how the Jewish People think they can survive the information age without changing their evil ways.

    By deciding what the general public is allowed to see, hear, and read.

    Facebook, Utube, Wikipedia, all network news channels, all book major publishing companies, the entire entertainment industry (including music), all major newspapers and all major magazines -all under Jewish ownership and control.

    • Replies: @Puddin Tane
    , @Aren Haich
  297. @Lost American

    “the pilots who flew the Boeing 767s had to be very skilled…”

    No doubt, since they did that remotely using flight simulators interfaced with this equipment:
    https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/27008135/system-planning-corporations-command-transmitter-systems-cts
    …manufactured by a company controlled by this guy:
    http://www.show-the-house.com/id86.html

    Meanwhile the pilots and “19 crazy Arabs” alike sat in their seats paralyzed with fear by what was happening outside the windows.

    Except Shanksville. That plane crew must have “pulled the plug” somehow, so the kikes blasted them out of the sky before they could land and tell all

  298. The circumstantial evidence is there, in a few years we will be discussing how-did-the -perpetrators -do-the coronavirsus hoax.

  299. chris says:
    @Rurik

    Thanks for the tip on Duke sources, Rurik!

    I’ll look into it.

  300. RobinG says:

    Israel murders [any] Palestinians with impunity because Hamas designated as terrorists. That should be reversed.

    Israeli troops kill 5 Palestinians in West Bank gunbattles
    https://www.clickorlando.com/news/world/2021/09/26/israeli-troops-kill-4-palestinians-in-west-bank-clashes/

  301. @carroll price

    “Facebook, Utube, Wikipedia, all network news channels…”

    Of which FB is the most powerful by far. “Social media” is the biggest quantum leap in mass mind control since the introduction of broadcast television in the 1940s. It’s what has engineered all this “woke” shit. That’s why Mark Zuckerkike is the fifth richest person on earth now, soon to be the richest– his reward from the Planet Jew investor class.

    And now we’re entering the next quantum leap…

    A.I.

    Each person’s “news” and “entertainment” is going to be custom tuned by a 1000-IQ super-psychologist to make him or her a soulless, mindless puppet. That’s what A.I. is going to be used for, probably already is. *Mark* my words.

    Oh, the “Information Age” is totally their Friend! That’s why they bankrolled and monopolized it every step of the way.

    No one is making you partake of any of it, you know.

  302. RobinG says:
    @arami

    Tulsi supposedly on right-wing talk show. Is this what they’re talking about?

    https://www.thewrap.com/rumble-greenwald-gabbard/
    Right-Wing YouTube Rival Rumble to Pay Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald for Content to Boost Audience

  303. @Anonymouse

    so many Jews died in the attack

    Until the China virus entered the world stage, it was the greatest number of Jews I knew of, with one degree of separation, who died before their time.

  304. There is a lot of evidence that Israel and Saudi Arabia were involved in the attacks on the USA on September 11, 2001. I’m not saying that they were not involved. But I’m puzzled as to why they would do it and how it works for them to ultimately benefit from the attacks, given that they are essentially parasites of the USA. If the USA collapsed, say in a war, that would result in Israel and Saudi Arabia at the very least being severely weakened, because their strength comes almost entirely from American aid. For parasitic nations to engage in terrorism against a country that they are almost entirely dependent on the aid of is very strange.

    • Replies: @JLK
    , @Puddin Tane
  305. JLK says:
    @Paul Bustion

    That’s why it is very unlikely that Israel was involved other than perhaps not warning us as effectively as they could about whatever foreknowledge they had and hoping the events would help their agenda.

    I’m not a fan of many things that Israel does, but some of the posters here are either paid trolls or blinded by pure Israel or Jew hatred.

    • Replies: @Paul Bustion
  306. @JLK

    You are obviously a Jewish apologist and Israeli apologist. I am already completely convinced that Jews were either responsible for the attacks or at least intentionally arranged to ensure that they were not thwarted. What I have some doubt about is whether the State of Israel was as involved as is claimed. Jews control America no less than they control Israel, so it could be that what really happened was that the Jews who rule America used their control of the military to deliberately allow the attacks, and the Jews who rule Israel agreed to be the fall guys for the ones ruling America. That could be why AntiZionism is much more politically acceptable than AntiJewry, because the plan is for Israel to be made the scapegoat for what international Jewry is doing, through its control of countries like America. There is a mountain of evidence that proves Jewish involvement in at least deliberately allowing the attacks to happen.

  307. @Paul Bustion

    “For parasitic nations to engage in terrorism against a country that they are almost entirely dependent on the aid of is very strange.”

    Not if “our leaders” are actually their puppets and they’re 100 percent confident they can play us like violins to believe their enemies did it so that we attack their enemies, which is exactly what they did going back long before 9-11.
    Operation Trojan (1986), as told by former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky in his book By Way of Deception:
    http://ariwatch.com/OurAlly/Libya.htm
    You mean you seriously never heard of the 1967 U.S.S. Liberty Incident? Or the 1954 Lavon Affair, in which Israeli spies in Egypt perped false flag bombings of U.S. diplomatic offices, to get us to attack THEIR ENEMY then? Or how about when they manipulated us into entering World War I because Britain was losing and promised them Palestine in exchange for that service?
    https://balderexlibris.com/index.php?post/Pierce-William-Luther-Background-to-treason-The-Balfour-declaration
    The documentation in the above is excellent and should not be missed.

    So you two are just shills yourselves, shilling for Jews and Israel, huh? Wow, Unz’s site just stinks to high heaven of the likes of you two!

    • Replies: @Paul Bustion
    , @geokat62
  308. @Puddin Tane

    I didn’t say that Jews were not involved in 9/11 and I have had heard of the USS Liberty incident and the Lavon affair. If those affairs were hoaxes, then the only plausible way they were hoaxed is with Israel’s complicity in the hoax, and that could only be motivated by deceiving the Goyim into seeing Americas as a bulwark against Israel and missing that America is just as Jewish as Israel is. In my opinion the US government is just as completely controlled by Jews as Israel’s is. I wasn’t getting at an idea that Jews were not involved in the attacks, more so an idea that international Jewry was the real entity behind it, and was making the state of Israel into a scapegoat.

    In case this is misinterpreted when I said that America is just as Jewish as Israel I meant that its government was, not its population.

    • Replies: @Puddin Tane
    , @Puddin Tane
  309. geokat62 says:
    @Puddin Tane

    You mean you seriously never heard of the 1967 U.S.S. Liberty Incident?

    Incident? Like accidentally bumping into someone while walking along a sidewalk?

    You know the media gaslighting is extremely effective when people keep referring to the slaughter of 34 American servicemen and wounding of 171 others as an “incident,” instead of a “massacre.”

  310. @Paul Bustion

    “I didn’t say that Jews were not involved…”

    Yeah, my apologies. Your passage that I quoted made the wrong impression–it too looked like someone running interference for the Jews-did-it theory–and then I posted before seeing your next comment.

  311. @Paul Bustion

    The “parasite-host” image doesn’t really fit the U.S.-Jewish relationship, now or ever. It’s more like America and Americans as a whole are this big, dumb, club-swinging Moron carrying out orders handed down by a bunch of Jews in a war room somewhere, except the orders are filtered through splashy front men like Dubya, Obama, Trump, Biden, and this flimsy circus suffices to keep club-swinging Morons fooled. What to call it? A criminal mastermind / grunting brute relationship? If the club-swinging Morons spent less time getting hypnotized by the Jew Svengali’s “media” and more of it digesting what they already know, I think more of them would refine The Magical Question: “Cui really Bono?” and follow it to its only logical conclusion.

    “Media” is really Jewish Mind Control. The most devastating “brain surgery” isn’t done with bone saws and scalpels. It’s done with words, images, and subtlety.

  312. remo says:
    @Z-man

    I disagree. The flight path, as applied to the architectural plans for tower two, show 175 went in and its fuselage impacted through the ’emptier’ office space floors hung between the core superstructure and the outer box column structure;
    missing the cores almost entirely.
    Did LESS damage to the central cores than flight eleven which HIT square on to Tower one’s core superstructure.
    This absorbed every part of flight 11 except one. Indicating the strength of those buildings.
    The ‘nose’ of 175 ( whatever it was) came firing out on tower two because it went along that less resistant office space path.

  313. Everything that propelled the 9-11 attack was driven by Race and class. It was more than Jew Conspiracy. No. It remains an active Shit Lib Conspiracy. One very broad, but very thin.

    Wall Street Shit Libs needed a war because Clinton’s Shit Lib job offshoring schemes collapsed the US domestic economy. The Shit Lib banksters who helped Clinton close the factories still needed a pretense to keep printing with zero productive economy with which to leverage the printing.

    What prolonged the Shit Lib war was Chinese willingness to be the manufacturing base for the Shit Lib infinity war. They’d pocket trillions while helping CENTCOM genocide poor brown countries that had the balls to resist what eventually became Globo-Homo LGBT-BLM woke crusades.

    The first World Trade Center 9-11 was a failed FBI “Moslem” false flag in 1993. Another agency chock-full of ethno-racists and assorted Shit Lib lawyers.

  314. @carroll price

    … and carefully-crafted algorithms rolled out and executed by Machine Intelligence will weed out or suppress all undesirable items from view.

  315. @ImaBotKnot

    What I find particularly interesting is the video in the link which I didn’t think was released until much later that showed a fireball as the plane hit the Pentagon which must have been produced by tanks full of aviation fuel
    as for the WTC..

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