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One of the most discouraging aspects of the musical chairs being played among the members of the White House inner circle is that every change reflects an inexorable move to the right in foreign policy, which means that the interventionists are back without anyone at the White House level remaining to say “no.” President Donald Trump, for all his international experience as a businessman, is a novice at the step-by-step process required in diplomacy and in the development of a coherent foreign policy, so he is inevitably being directed by individuals who have long American global leadership by force if necessary.

The resurgence of the hawks is facilitated by Donald Trump’s own inclinations. He likes to see himself as a man of action and a leader, which inclines him to be impulsive, some might even say reckless. He is convinced that he can enter into negotiations with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un with virtually no preparations and make a deal that will somehow end the crisis over that nation’s nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs, for example. In so doing, he is being encouraged by his National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and his Pentagon chief James Mattis, who believe that the United States can somehow prevail in a preemptive war with the Koreans if that should become necessary. The enormous collateral damage to South Korea and even Japan is something that Washington planners somehow seem to miss in their calculations.

The recent shifts in the cabinet have Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State. A leading hawk, he was first in his class of 1986 at the United States Military Academy but found himself as a junior officer with no real war to fight. He spent six years in uniform before resigning, never having seen combat, making war an abstraction for him. He went to Harvard Law and then into politics where he became a Tea Party congressman, eventually becoming a leader of that caucus when it stopped being Libertarian and lurched rightwards. He has since marketed himself as a fearless soldier in the war against terrorism and rogue states, in which category he includes both Iran and Russia.

Pompeo was not popular at the CIA because he enforced a uniformity of thinking that was anathema for intelligence professionals dedicated to collecting solid information and using it to produce sound analysis of developments worldwide. Pompeo, an ardent supporter of Israel and one of the government’s leading Iran haters, has been regularly threatening Iran while at the Agency and will no doubt find plenty of support at State from Assistant Secretary of State for the Near East David Satterfield, a former top adviser of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Pompeo has proven himself more than willing to manipulate intelligence produce the result he desires. Last year, he declassified and then cherry picked documents recovered from Osama bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan that suggested that al-Qaeda had ties with Iran. The move was coordinated with simultaneous White House steps to prepare Congress and the public for a withdrawal from the Iran nuclear arms agreement. The documents were initially released to a journal produced by the neocon Foundation for Defense of Democracies, where Pompeo has a number of times spoken, to guarantee wide exposure in all the right places.

Pompeo’s arrival might only be the first of several other high-level moves by the White House. Like the rumors that preceded the firing of Secretary of State Tillerson two weeks ago, there have been recurrent suggestions that McMaster will be the next to go as he reportedly is too moderate for the president and has also been accused of being anti-Israeli, the kiss of death in Washington. Former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton has been a frequent visitor at the White House and it is believed that he is the preferred candidate to fill the position. He is an extreme hawk, closely tied to the Israel Lobby, who would push hard for war against Iran and also for a hardline position in Syria, one that could lead to direct confrontation with the Syrian Armed Forces and possibly the Russians.

Bolton, who has been described by a former George W. Bush official as “the most dangerous man we had during the entire eight years,” will undoubtedly have a problem in getting confirmed by Congress. He was rejected as U.N. Ambassador, requiring Bush to make a recess appointment which did not need Congressional approval.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
 
• Category: Foreign Policy, Ideology • Tags: Donald Trump, John Bolton, Neocons 
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  1. Why go out with a whimper when you can go out with a bang?

    • Replies: @Moi
  2. Bolton, who has been described by a former George W. Bush official as “the most dangerous man we had during the entire eight years,” will undoubtedly have a problem in getting confirmed by Congress.

    The position that Bolton has been appointed to, National Security Advisor, does not need confirmation by Congress.

    • Agree: Z-man
  3. nickels says:

    Starting to feel like facism.

  4. Sean says:

    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam–backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton’s appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

  5. The prescient Gerald Celente has always said that there is no wilder card than the Trump card. Adding a deranged Jhon Bolton to the White House team will make the place more like a cocktail Molotov rather than a wild card.
    Russia is being cornered by false unproven allegations by the UK in a false flag poisoning attack on an ex double agent that aims at intimidating Russia into submission by the Western Powers That Be. The problem is that Russia might simply resist; can we assume that the Western powers have a plan B that does not involve a nuclear confrontation.
    Stay tuned folks for we are indeed living in interesting times.

    • Replies: @Virgile
  6. Sean says:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/20/russian-agents-learn-litvinenko-errors-devise-hit-sergei-skripal/

    Russian intelligence learnt from the Alexander Litvinenko murder to devise a near perfect assassination method that has left British police still puzzled over how Sergei and Yulia Skripal were poisoned.

    British authorities are increasingly convinced that Colonel Skripal was exposed to nerve agent planted in the luggage of his daughter Yulia who was visiting from Moscow.

    Bastards!

    The UK could not care less about Russia, the UK has been pushed into a corner by the second poisoning of a former FSB man living in England within a few years.

    Russians have historically been comparatively poor but comforted by a image of their country as a force to be reckoned with internationally. Putin is an extreme version of that, and he is baiting the UK and the West now to get back to old days when Russia was isolated and hated superpower inhabited by proud paupers. The only thing Putin fears is that his country will become progressively more affluent and friendly with the West and, once he leaves power, seduced into forgetting its self imposed historical mission of greatness.

    • Troll: L.K, ValmMond
    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Wally
  7. @Sean

    “After Iran is taken out of the equation,”

    Oh, yes. Easy-peasey. You probably actually think that the US military could invade Iran and defeat the Iranian military on its own ground. You’re also ignoring the probability that Russian forces would be involved if US troops invaded Iran.

    Your silly statement, “After Iran is taken out of the equation,” sounds like that Steve Martin routine “You can be a millionaire and never pay taxes”. Step one is “First, get a million dollars.”

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Anon
  8. anonymous[323] • Disclaimer says:

    For Bolton to be appointed is an ominous sign. The war hawks are gathering, casting an increasingly dark shadow. A person like Bolton is an incompetent ideologue likely to lead the US into a disaster. Trump is now betraying his base who were tired of the numerous wars everywhere. The apparent target is Iran, a country of 80M people. The US is at present an internal balancing act that could easily become unstable by something like a costly military adventure that spirals into a major loss.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  9. utu says:

    Who is really whispering to Trump’s ear? I do not think it’s Kelly behind getting rid of Tillerson and McMaster. The Zionist rug Breitbart kept whining about McMaster for a long time. And the same Zionist rug kept bitching about Kushner but it must be Kushner and Ivanka who have access to Trump’s ear. Who talks to Kushner? His dad who knows all the crooks in Israel, right?

    • Replies: @renfro
  10. We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is. The geopolitical consequences of a war with Iran would be enormous. The price of oil would skyrocket to north of $200/bbl and the the major nations of the world (e.g. Russia, China) would be forced to intervene to secure some sort of global stability. Before it was all over, the global economy will have tanked and millions of people would be dead, including many innocents.

    I simply cannot believe the deliberate and artful precision with which the USA is lining up the dominoes of its own destruction. It really is uncanny.

    Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future. He may eke out another presidential term if the Dems decide to run a flaming Leftist like Kamala Harris, but his magic is gone. Trump’s political capital is not only spent, it is deep in arrears with no hope of repayment. The Teflon Don has become the Bankrupt Buffoon, and sadly that is how he will be remembered.

  11. @Sean

    You are # 1 in my line up. Congratulations!
    So Father took daughter to restaurant and in the restaurant she opened her luggage and that automatically did spray her father. They did not notice anything so they went to park to take a nap.
    Absolutely brilliant .
    BTW How old you are?

    • Replies: @Sean
  12. renfro says:
    @utu

    Who is really whispering to Trump’s ear?..you ask?

    I know people don’t like simple answers, they want things to be more complicated and to require all kinds of theorizing about motivations, game plans, chess playing and etc..
    But the answer to this is simple.
    The uber Jewish Sheldon Adelson was the largest donor to Trump exceeding 70 million including PACs, Adelson is the largest donor to Niiki Haley, over half of her donations, Adelson also pays Bolton as a go between and agent for Israel.
    Yes, the old ‘follow the money’ is boring but 99.99% true.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-a-john-bolton-appointment-is-scarier-than-you-think-mcmaster-trump/

    ”More than anyone else inside or outside the Trump administration, Bolton has already influenced Trump to tear up the Iran nuclear deal. Bolton parlayed his connection with the primary financier behind both Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump himself—the militantly Zionist casino magnate Sheldon Adelson—to get Trump’s ear last October, just as the president was preparing to announce his policy on the Iran nuclear agreement, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). He spoke with Trump by phone from Las Vegas after meeting with Adelson.

    It was Bolton who persuaded Trump to commit to specific language pledging to pull out of the JCPOA if Congress and America’s European allies did not go along with demands for major changes that were clearly calculated to ensure the deal would fall apart. ”

    At the very moment that Powell was saying administration policy was not to attack Iran, Bolton was working with the Israelis to lay the groundwork for just such a war. During a February 2003 visit, Bolton assured Israeli officials in private meetings (https://www.haaretz.com/1.4904696) that he had no doubt the United States would attack Iraq, and that after taking down Saddam, it would deal with Iran, too, as well as Syria.

    During multiple trips to Israel, Bolton had unannounced meetings, including with the head of Mossad, Meir Dagan, without the usual reporting cable to the secretary of state and other relevant offices. Judging from that report on an early Bolton visit, those meetings clearly dealt with a joint strategy on how to bring about political conditions for an eventual U.S. strike against Iran.”

    The U.S.-Israeli strategy would later hit the jackpot, however, when a large cache of documents supposedly from a covert source within Iran’s nuclear weapons program surfaced in autumn 2004. The documents, allegedly found on the laptop computer of one of the participants, included technical drawings of a series of efforts to redesign Iran’s Shahab-3 missile to carry what appeared to be a nuclear weapon.

    But the whole story of the so-called “laptop documents” was a fabrication. In 2013, a former senior German official revealed the true story to this writer: the documents had been given to German intelligence by the Mujahedin E Khalq,(MEK) the anti-Iran armed group that was well known to have been used by Mossad to “launder” information the Israelis did not want attributed to themselves. Furthermore, the drawings showing the redesign that were cited as proof of a nuclear weapons program were clearly done by someone who didn’t know that Iran had already abandoned the Shahab-3’s nose cone for an entirely different design”

  13. renfro says:

    I wonder if anyone here is going to start defending Trump with the absurd…’he’s playing 3 dimensional chess’…or the excuse that he’s ‘keeping his friends close but his enemies closer’.

    Thy need to realize that Trump is the swamp and he is scrapping the bottom of the swamp and bringing the psychopathic swamp slime of Bolton and Gina Haspel into his adm.

    I hope Mueller nails his ass and little Kushner’s on something—they should be gotten out of the WH.
    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  14. The Neocon Jews and their Suckmongers like Bolton have won again. It took just over a year for them to take over. Jared Kushner appears to be a Jewish plant reading the daily intelligence briefings that Trump didn’t want to read and furnishing the info to his Israeli friends as well as the Saudi Royals who are nothing more than Jewish whores.

    Israel has never defined their borders and they never will. They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  15. @Sean

    After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned.

    Wouldn’t seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]. Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.

    And I don’t think a war is going to rile up support, at least without a really convincing false flag.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Sean
  16. @Intelligent Dasein

    Great analysis.
    May be Trump is trying to bluff his way into getting a deal on North Korea and Iran. The problem is that the Isrealis might outmanoeuvre him and force his hand into a full confrontation with Iran at which point your scenario will become reality.

  17. Can it be that Trump does not want to end as Kennedy ?

  18. @Twodees Partain

    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.
    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.
    If the story is true, attacking Iran will be the end of Israel, not of Iran.
    I sometimes wonder if Iran would like a nuclear attack, to justify wiping Israel off the map.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Twodees Partain
  19. Anon[613] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Sean is either a very clever hasbara agent or a very stupid boomer. This guy is nuts

  20. Erebus says:
    @anonymous

    The US is at present an internal balancing act that could easily become unstable by something like a costly military adventure that spirals into a major loss.

    Naw. Bolton and Pompeo will be allowed, even encouraged to bark like mad dogs, but I can’t believe that the Pentagon will acquiesce to go to war for them. Their wind will dissipate faster after they’ve run up against reality a few times.
    I think they’ve been set up to run straight into it. As the flag-bearers for the hawkish end of the American spectrum, they’re immune from criticism even when they are forced to back down and become doves. With that, they too can be summarily fired and the whole Neocon dream will just fade away with them.

  21. Realist says:

    Trumps phony act about vetoing the spending bill was so transparent as to be laughable. The buffoon is truly an asshat. It was to mollify his base.
    It was first obviously to me that Trump was a dickhead in human clothes about this time last year. And I voted for him….so sorry. Too many of his supporters have been making excuses for him since.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  22. @Sean

    You lead your readers to scepticism when you refer the British “liquidating the ethnic Chinese in Malaya” as it is such a gross exaggeration. Indeed Chinese (mostly brought in as cheap labour for the rubber plantations I guess) were the backbone of the Communist insurgency in Malaya but I am surprised you suggest that the situation was anything like that in South Vietnam. Source? Evidence? (I remember wondering why the lessons of the Malayan insurgency couldn’t be applied in Vietnam. I suspect that part of the reason wss that separating loyal or indifferent ethnic Vietnamese peasants from ethnically distinct terrorists and insurgents was precluded by the demographic reality).

    • Replies: @Sean
  23. While disconcerting –

    one day at a time.

  24. @Intelligent Dasein

    Can you explain the cause and effect by which war on and in Iran sends the price of oil above $200 a barrel? Certainly there could, probably would be an immediate jump in price as some buyers bid the price up to ensure they had reserves but I can’t see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.

  25. iffen says:

    The enormous collateral damage to South Korea and even Japan is something that Washington planners somehow seem to miss in their calculations.

    And what will S. Korea’s and Japan’s positions be after N. Korea has plenty of nuclear armed ICBMs that can reach the U. S.?

    BTW, I’m sure both countries would avenge us if we were completely incapacitated by a first strike.

    • Replies: @Randal
  26. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Hey, look on the bright side! Now Jared the Grifter will get that refinancing for his aptly named 666 building in NYC, which had been a dead end, even though the greasy leech got Daddy-in-law to raise hell on Qatar after they refused to invest in that bust.

    And I imagine that now Mueller will soften and slow his investigations into Trump’s sleazy business deals, since he’s now fully onboard with finishing off Syria and attacking Iran, which will have to take place before January 2019.

    Maybe Jared can get his Mossad buds to do another False Flag on that building, just like they helped their buddy ‘Lucky’ Larry on 9/11.
    That would save Shelly tons of money and kick off another war for the glory of Apartheid Israel.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

  27. El Dato says:
    @jilles dykstra

    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.

    Maybe a sleeping Chtulhu?

    To make this nuclear-weapon proof, it would have to be pretty deep. Even the US doesn’t go that far.

    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.

    Many things are said. Some say the US has Alien Technology that they obtained from a Saucer crash back when Roswell was big. Doesn’t make it true.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  28. @niteranger

    They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

    I already used my “AGREE” button.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  29. El Dato says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    There would rapidly be a total withdrawal of Saudi output, too. With Russia embargoed, will this do?

  30. @jilles dykstra

    Can it be that Trump does not want to end as Kennedy ?

    No doubt about that. The guy is so vulnerable in so many ways that it isn’t funny.

    He (and Hillary) have to be among the most stupid people on the planet. At their ages why would they want the job?

  31. @Realist

    The buffoon is truly an asshat. It was to mollify his base.

    I suspect the tariff issue is an attempt to mollify them as well. Behind closed doors it’ll be business as usual.

    Casting ballots is for suckers.

    • Agree: Realist
  32. @Erebus

    Sounds plausible in today’s mad America. I hope you are right.

  33. A leading hawk, [Pompeo] was first in his class of 1986 at the United States Military Academy but found himself as a junior officer with no real war to fight. He spent six years in uniform before resigning, never having seen combat, making war an abstraction for him… He has since marketed himself as a fearless soldier in the war against terrorism and rogue states…

    The wanna be hero types are near the bottom of the barrel, morally speaking, and the preening West Point girly princelets are even lower than most with the absolute lowest being the Zio-sucks. Being first among that pack of pathologic narcissists is equivalent to bragging about having the best outhouse on the block.

    Anyone know of any real estate on another planet, preferably a desert one?

  34. Jake says:

    The most viciously self-righteous Israel-First Hawks, the ones who would be happy to see a mere 10 or 12 million dead if their good intentions could be realized, indeed are back fully in the saddle.

    They are morally blind, or even morally perverse, from wearing blinkers and operating from the deep-seated, marrow bone, WASP faith, going back to the earliest Anglo-Saxon ‘Puritans’ and epitomized in Oliver Cromwell, that the Anglo-Saxon race proves its being the race chosen to rule the world by being the race that sees itself as the race that is chosen to rule the world.

    It’s a nice Talmudic circle. And it – as archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell himself realized – required taking Jewish money and allying with Jews against, eventually, all other white Gentiles.

  35. @El Dato

    I did not say it is true, but in my opinion it explains Iranian politics.

  36. El Dato says:

    I hear Guccifer 2.0 is back in the news.

    CONFIRMED for GRU operative! We even have his STREET ADDRESS now. Because IP of VPN.

    This after Iran is back in the news for crazy haxx against US universities.

    Reminder:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-10/new-research-shows-guccifer-20-files-were-copied-locally-dnc-not-hacked-russians

  37. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    War with Iran (assuming it’s more than a brief exchange, and leads to serious conflict) threatens oils supplies directly from: Saudi Arabia (joint biggest producer in the world), Iran (5th), Iraq (4th), UAE (8th), and Kuwait (9th). And bear in mind that the 3rd biggest (US) uses most of its own production itself, and the other joint biggest (Russia) uses quite a lot of its own production as well.

    On top of that, such a war will create massive global uncertainty, which tends to spike prices of strategic commodities such as oil anyway.

    A big hike in the price seems inevitable.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  38. Randal says:
    @iffen

    And what will S. Korea’s and Japan’s positions be after N. Korea has plenty of nuclear armed ICBMs that can reach the U. S.?

    Well South Korea will still have twice the population and 50 times the GDP of NK, and Japan will still have 5 times the population and over 100 times the gdp of NK, and Japan and South Korea will still be the 8th and 10th biggest military spenders in the world, and the US will probably still be allied with both and providing them with a “nuclear umbrella”.

    What was your point?

    BTW, I’m sure both countries would avenge us if we were completely incapacitated by a first strike.

    The US can’t be “completely incapacitated” by a first strike. That’s what the second strike weapon systems (SLBMs) are for.

    • Replies: @iffen
  39. @Erebus

    I sure hope there is another “Fox” Fallon out there somewhere but I wouldn’t bet on it.

  40. @Jake

    You must be an Irishman.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  41. Trump who received 5 deferments during the Vietnam war is going to take the U.S. to war with Russia for his Zionist masters using Syria and Iran as catalysts, a war for Zionist Israel, and it will be a war to end all wars, nuclear.

    Trump is the Judas goat that is going to lead us goyim ie cattle to slaughter for the Zionist NWO.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  42. TG says:

    Yet more evidence that we do not live in a democracy. For decades now we vote for one thing and get another. Democracy is a sham, that privatizes power and socializes responsibility.

    Obama was a cold-hearted con-man, he was saying one thing on the campaign trail and secretly promising the opposite to his wealthy donors. Once elected, he continued to talk like FDR while governing like Marie Antoinette. But the betrayal was so deep that his supporters could not accept it, and continued to believe that the problem was those evil Republicans blocking him…

    Trump is a salesman, he says whatever he needs to say to close the deal. Once elected, he actually tried to do what he promised, but encountered so much resistance from the establishment that he finally folded. Now he’s playing his base with empty words and political theater, while doing what the rich want. The question is: will his base become mindless supporters, like those ‘liberal democrats’ who still support Obama, or will they at least have the moral courage to realize that they’ve been sold out?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  43. Che Guava says:

    Dr. Giraldi,

    I am not even a citizen, only of an occupied state (after more than 70 yrs), but it is hard to express my dismay on reading that Prex Trump was appointing this dangerous neo-Zio-Con imbecile,

    Maybe Trump has the attention span to keep this lunatic on a tight leash, don’t think so.

    Too many people will know, by USA mid-terms, that ‘Drain the swamp’ was really meaning ‘Get knee-deep in the swamp’.

    From my reading of U.S.A. current affairs and opinion sites, such as this, he fails. Perhaps he will get a second term *simply because* he appoints a loony to high office and gets sudden favourable MSM coverage fron now.

  44. anarchyst says:

    If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.

    The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving customs clearance or inspection. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    • Replies: @edNels
  45. @jacques sheete

    “Casting ballots is for suckers.”
    Awesome reality stated in such a little sentence. The inverters of reality, an evil cabal without any capacity for creativity, can only distort the true and great achievements of humanity in the service of their misanthropic ends, thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ‘ representative democracy’ which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @jacques sheete
  46. @Wizard of Oz

    but I can’t see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.

    We’re not talking about Iranian production being withdrawn from the market, you idiot. If Iran were attacked by US/Zionist interests, the very first thing they would do is shut down the Strait of Hormuz and bombard the Saudi port facilities across the Persian Gulf. The petroleum exporting infrastructure across the Middle East would be heavily damaged, with 12-15 million bbls/day of Saudi, Qatari, Bahraini, Iraqi, Iranian, Kuwaiti, and UAE oil production taken offline.

    Twenty percent of the world’s crude oil exports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. And this is the real oil, the light sweet crude that can actually be refined and blended into commercial fuels. It isn’t the natural gas condensate that the US squeezes out of is shale formations. If it is not blended with crude oil to provide a fraction of heavier alkanes, shale oil is pretty useless. No matter how many fracked wells we drill into the Texas plain, the US is not “energy independent” with regard to commercially viable liquid fuels, and we never will be.

    The stability of the global economy is completely dependent on Middle Eastern oil. China in particular (now the world’s largest national economy) cannot survive in its present form with out importing oil from the Middle East. China, Iran, and Russia are increasingly integrated into a strategic and economic bloc that can resist US pressure. The USA is $21 trillion is debt (thanks Trump!) and sinking fast. To anyone with any grasp of history at all, it is as clear as the nose on my face that the next war is the war fated to end the American Empire. But even I did not imagine that the mad rush to national suicide would be accompanied by so much glee and hubris.

  47. Joe Hide says:

    Trump’s Results are all that count. Even in depth factual analysis is impotent next to results. ISIS is broken, Al Quida is now just a misspelled word, the economy is reversing its downward spiral (Except for the percentage of the rich that make their money as parasites.), and much more good is happening. “Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes it for it’s evil deads.”… that is, The Truth is exposing the Global Deception that has perpetuated tyranny, misery, and unhappiness for generations, indeed for far longer than that. The Biggest Game is being played out now, with the Good Guys having learned it’s newer rules, which were altered by the Bad Guys. One of the rules is that the public , in general, can’t handle the whole truth, so must be fed pieces of it until they wake up. Trump, Putin, and their very powerful Allies are playing this game exceedingly well.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @anonymous
  48. Iberiano says:
    @Sean

    My question is, presuming you are right, and I think you might be, does this now mean Trump is LIKELY to win in 2020 (full backing of the elites/Israel) and a wall may actually be built at some point? Or just more influx of illegals AND we are assisting Israel in their expansion.

    • Replies: @Sean
  49. Che Guava says:

    It was a later para, missing a ‘to’. In any case, I attempted deleting my earlier posting, but the site timer and real-time are not always coinciding、

  50. Sean says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    The explanation from Russia is that the nerve gas came from the British defence lab Porton Down which is not very far from where the poisoning took place. Unlike certain countries where people get drunk and cause nuclear power station catastrophes or almost start WW3 over Norwegian weather research (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident) we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us against them and was swapped for Anna Chapman, not unless we never want anyone to work for us again, eh? Proof beyond reasonable doubt does not mean there is no chance of a mistake anyway, but it is much more likely than anything else that the Russian state did it on Putin’s orders. Skripal was branded a ‘traitor’ and a ‘bastard’ on state TV in Russia, so them playing the innocent again won’t work. Not again .

  51. iffen says:
    @Randal

    What was your point?

    It’s time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K.

  52. Sean says:
    @Iberiano

    Trump is like Roosevelt, he needs to win again to make the judicial obstructionism to his program cease . I don’t think the elite are identical to the Israel Lobby, which can be split off a bit by offering the overthrow of Iran. The key will be after the crushing of Iran when Trump must tacitly encourage Israel to strike and expel most of the west bank Arab. Once that happens the Israel Lobby will defend Trump against the gentile-Globalist-pacifist Jews of the elite who hold the creation of a Palestinian state in the West bank to be the only solution .

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  53. @Intelligent Dasein

    Indeed, from memory, 45% of the oil for the west has to pass the Strait of Hormuz, a very narrow channel.

  54. @Sean

    If any president wanted war, and lowered the USA standard of living, it was FDR.
    Charles A. Beard, ‘American Foreign Policy in the Making, 1932 – 1940, A study in responsibilities’, New Haven, 1946
    Peter H. Nicoll, ´Englands Krieg gegen Deutschland, Ursachen, Methoden und Folgen des Zweiten Weltkriegs’, 1963, 2001, Tübingen ( Britain’s Blunder, 1953)
    In the second book is how WWII lowered the USA standard of living calculated.
    Wars are expensive, not just in blood and misery.
    What Trump tries, I hope, is to get the USA out of the war madness.
    Not easy, as already Eisenhower warned in his farewell speech.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  55. Ho-hum says:

    We’ve been here before. Remember that even after the international community defined aggression, articulating Nuremberg Count 2 with explicit warning of general war of mass destruction, CIA kept pressing to attack neutral Cambodia, which was the open-and-shut legal case for US aggression. CIA’s intent was to establish its impunity by wrecking rule of law once and for all. At that time, CIA had installed as president CTE poster child and Warren Commission stooge Gerald Ford, perhaps their most helpless and pliable puppet. What happened? Defense Secretary Jim Schlesinger channeled Bartelby the Scrivener. He ignored orders to attack.

    Now the SecDef is Mattis, who’s even more firmly embedded in the military milieu than RAND egghead Schlesinger. So here’s what’s going to happen. Bolton will pull down his pants and pee, crap, and fap on jus cogens while Russia impassively enforces it at gunpoint. The Pentagon will say, Yes Sir, Officer Gerasimov, and comply. There will be no trouble. The US will lose what’s left of its standing and influence, not merely for deficient toilet training, as usual, but for contemptible ‘Lemme-at-em!’ posturing belied by obvious weakness. The Western bloc will continue to disintegrate from the outside in.

  56. @Randal

    Well are they mad enough to do what it takes to get it over in a couple of days?

    • Replies: @Randal
  57. Z-man says:

    Real conservatives are…like Pat Buchanan, weary of The Lobby and against foreign interventions for the most part and America firsters. These NEOCON’s, especially Gentile ones, are traitors.
    I still hold out some hope in Trump, that he’s playing political games protecting his flanks, maybe have Bolton be the sacrificial lamb if he decides to keep the Iran deal, I don’t know, but that hope is stretching thin.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @anonymous
  58. @Intelligent Dasein

    So we know any strategy has to include planning for the Straits of Hormuz not to be blockable by the Iranians. That is indeed a formidable hurdle. Presumably only nuclear weapons could guarantee it.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  59. Randal says:
    @iffen

    We can agree on that, for sure. It’s what I’ve been saying for over 20 years now.

    • Replies: @iffen
  60. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    are they mad enough to do what it takes to get it over in a couple of days?

    They’ve just recruited someone who probably is. Though the idea that there is anything they can in practice do that will “get it over in a couple of days” is probably delusional.

    Collectively the risk isn’t so much that they might be mad enough to go nuclear, as that they probably are variously ignorant and obsessive and zealous enough to start wars that they think they can control, but can’t.

  61. Z-man says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Wouldn’t seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]

    According to what predictions? The Demokratz are even more bankrupt than the Republitards, the Senate will stay where it is and the Dems will gain in the house but not win it. It’s all local.

    Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.

    There’s still nobody and I mean NOBODY from the other side that can take Trump on. Biden? Don’t make me laugh. If a shining star comes out of nowhere within the next 18 months fine but I strongly doubt that happens.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  62. Z-man says:
    @renfro

    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.

    I wouldn’t be so sure about that, he’s as close as you wanna get to a Christian Zionist being in the White House

  63. Wally says:
    @Sean

    Except there is no proof that the Russians poisoned them.

    Brits refuse to give anyone a sample, which is mandated by international agreement.

    No one else in the area was hurt by an alleged chemical that would have necessarily poisoned the surrounding area.

    The doctors on the scene said that could see no physical signs of poisoning.

    The alleged victims have curiously disappeared.

    Coincidentally, no doubt, the biggest Brit chemical weapons lab is a just a few miles down the road.

    more: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/03/no_author/russian-scientists-explain-novichok-high-time-for-britain-to-come-clean/

  64. edNels says:
    @anarchyst

    This seems like the first time anybody put these things together:

    keep the American money spigot running…]

    Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.]

    galvanize the American public, once again,]

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA ]

    INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.]

    Once upon a time, the finger piers of all the worlds ports tended to a bee hive of activity from assembling cargo from or to ships, and including inspections that might result in impounds or fumigation and the like.

    Maybe nobody noticed, but all that is history, (or maybe nowadays: HERstory…) The Dockers and Lumpers been replaced by sea containers all locked up and secure as they fly off the docks fast as can be. OK, wouldn’t that be a great way to pull off some kind of Shell Game with a secrete cargo, if that was the plan? Or if that was some option?

    The idea of that always elicits ”Terrorism” kinds of scenarios so it doesn’t seem like too likely primitive Camel Jockies would be able but since the concept is a little murky as to what is comprised exactly in the term, so you have assembled a new perspective with your bright comment!

  65. Rurik says:
    @renfro

    ’he’s playing 3 dimensional chess’

    my last hope was that Bolton would have to pass a Senate confirmation that he wouldn’t get. But National Security Advisor requires no confirmation. So Bolton (and war with Iran) are a certainty, as far as I can see.

    It’s over.

    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.

    God help us but I think you’re mistaken about that.

    Trump is a whore, but Pence is a true believer. Pence wants to force the Second Coming, and that means the Apocalypse, and the Tribulation, and all that other psychotic, biblical insanity.

    Please keep in mind that the Zionists consider WWII as their greatest triumph. 65+ million goyim souls slaughtered horrifically, often by burning alive! You can’t get more Old Testament triumphal vengeance than that!

    And all these wars in the Middle East that leave entire nations utterly in ruins.. With their people in shock at the death and carnage and utter despair.. ..are all things that Zionists (and their Christian concubines like Pence) gush over. As the world and all people with a shred of morality or decency, reel from the slaughter-fest, horrified – the Zionists, (just like the dancing Israelis on 9/11 or the cackling war hag over the lynching of Gadhafi) are beside themselves with self-satisfied, ebullient glee. Literally unable to contain their elation.

    As bad as Trump is, and has turned out to be, with the dead giveaway by appointing zio-scum Bolton, I suspect that true-believer Pence, would be even worse.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @chris
  66. John Bolton, another bureaucrat who’s never served in uniform but loves war. The only dicey situation he’s ever voluntarily faced was when he and his wife frequented swingers clubs. What is it about our government that allows bloodthirsty chicken-hawks like Bolton and Cheney access to power?

  67. KA says:
    @Sean

    Just one man ? Just this guy McMaster was standing between Iran and USA? In that case , a coup has already taken place . The coup master must be embedded,active,and always bidding for the perfect dispensable man to do their bidding . By dispensable, I mean the death of person like Litiivenko and the double agent in Salisbury on 3 rd March . Bolton should be careful for his own life . Once the job is done the coup club will throw him under the bus blame NK or China or Russia and plan war again, using another stupid careerist corrupt ambitious dog . May God help Bolton .

    • Replies: @Sean
  68. Rurik says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Trump who received 5 deferments during the Vietnam war is going to take the U.S. to war with Russia for his Zionist masters using Syria and Iran as catalysts, a war for Zionist Israel, and it will be a war to end all wars, nuclear.

    the solution is simple

    Putin simply states that the with the first Russian that dies in Syria due to Zionist/ZUS military action = Tel Aviv gets glassed.

    we all know these wars are all intended to bolster Israel. Duh. So why maintain the pretense when the Zio-Fiend has Moscow in the crosshairs?

    the existential question all Americans and all people of good will on the planet are going to have to ask themselves, is when the Fiend goes all out for world domination, by destroying the two remaining obstacles (Russia and China) to its Orwellian hell on earth it plans for all of us, what will we do when the call comes from Washington, DC – to every American and beyond, that..

    you’re either with us / or against us

    when we refuse to support the war effort, and even oppose it..

    I guess I’ll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @geokat62
  69. renfro says:
    @Z-man

    that he’s playing political games protecting his flanks, maybe have Bolton be the sacrificial lamb if he decides to keep the Iran deal, I don’t know, but that hope is stretching thin

    That doesn’t even make sense. I hardly know whether to laugh or cry.

  70. Corvinus says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is…Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future.”

    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer’s remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?

    Is the mask finally coming off of Trump for even his most ardent supporters to realize he is not a “God-Emperor”?

    Or will Trump magically “reinvent himself”, with his shills and toadies once again screeching in unison “MAGA”?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  71. Corvinus says:
    @Joe Hide

    “Trump’s Results are all that count. Even in depth factual analysis is impotent next to results.”

    ^
    |
    |

    Fine posters here, we have a clear example of a Russian bot.

  72. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:

    The voters give the creatures legitimacy. Voting means you’ve agreed to let other people take care of the complicated stuff and you’ve agreed to call this democracy instead of slavery.

    The voting class argues over total BS, usually online under a column dedicated to propaganda value. The writers always encourage the vote and vote themselves to demonstrate the proper behavior for the voting class.

    The truth is that 100% of the voting class surrenders their sovereignty to strangers and then they argue over who picked the right strangers. A Constitutional Convention to deal with the problems caused by the rich and powerful is needed. Not the fraudulent referendums they control.

    What about prosecuting all the politicians and generals who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq illegally? Shouldn’t all the senators who voted for the illegal Iraq and Afghanistan wars against innocent people based on lies go to prison?

    A pack of war criminals loved by the slaves, aka the voting class.

  73. ka says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Does price follow the reality? It doesn’t .It follows the convenient explanation of the ‘market’ which requests an increase .

  74. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Not necessarily.
    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it’s feasible and quite possible.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Randal
  75. Sean says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Bolton is a clear sign that the time is upon us. Approval for Trump may or may not be understated by polling. Nonetheless an attack on Iran can split the Dems from their Lobby supporters on foreign policy and the appointment of Bolton has already hurt their financing I suspect. Israel has to do the population transfer. I agree if it looks like Trump is going to be badly defeated they won’t take the risk (though they’ll be sorry in the long run).

  76. @Rurik

    Agree, the Zionist elites think they can sit out the nuclear exchange in the DUMBs that are through out the U.S. ie deep underground military bases, like the one under the Denver airport, but we goyim are going to be slaughtered for the Zionist NWO.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  77. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    [Trump, for all his international experience as a businessman, is a novice at the step-by-step process required in diplomacy and in the development of a coherent foreign policy, so he is inevitably being directed by individuals who have long American global leadership by force if necessary.]

    Please stop fooling people by presenting a pathological crook businessman as ‘a novice’. This zionist criminal stooge knows what he is doing. Either you don’t understand your own criminal, militaristic, imperialist culture and history or pretending that you don’t know so you don’t take responsibility for millions of killings, millions of refugees, destruction of country after country, rape of thousands of Muslim women and men in their own countries that YOU have INVADED based on lies and deception. Stop your denial and attack your corrupt, criminal and blackmailer president directly that is treating the office as a family business to expand his own influence by promising ‘america first’ to dummies, where by now every one with more than 2 brain cell knows is a lie to fool people.
    John Bolton is a CRIMINAL, MASS MURDERER, WHERE SHOULD BE ARRESTED, instead your crook president who lied to dummies when he said he was AGAINST IRAQ WAR, makes him as ‘advisor’. So, this by itself is a strong piece of evidence that the zionist illiterate stooge is not ashamed that he knows shit about history but HE IS PROUD OF IT, he is A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR, CORRUPT, and mass murderer who has invaded number of countries for the past 14 months, while he told the dummies that he will do business with other countries instead of invading them to kill. Now everyone knows that HE LIED AGAIN. So stop blaming others.

    You should point out your own violent, criminal, imperialistic culture not on others or on ‘inexperienced president’ where he has enough experience in hotels and brothel houses. He like criminal Bush has come with an AGENDA, working closely with other criminals and zionist pimps like Mohammed Ben Salman, elSisi, zionist baby killer Netanyahu to implement his criminal design against humanity.

    People of the world are not going to listen to people who do not take responsibility for their own crimes against humanity. A criminal culture that put everyday a whore’s story who had played with president’s behind at the top of the news to feed the dummies, but none of these ‘news outlets’ talking about Trumps’ crimes against humanity in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Palestine, where HE HAS KILLED HUNDERES OF PEOPLE, including many children and made thousands more refugees.
    Stop protecting a crook, pathological liar and a zionist mass murderer. just to feel better. Even the illiterate Trump said: America is NOT INNOCENT.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/147351/political-corruption-art-deal

    The Red Sea 2015 “Secret Yacht Summit” that Realigned the Middle East
    Arab leaders from UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Jordan plotted to counter Turkey and Iran, and replace the GCC and Arab League

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-red-sea-2015-secret-yacht-summit-that-realigned-the-middle-east/5632786

    [George Nader, the Lebanese-American businessman, who is co-operating with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Donald Trump’s campaign funding, organised a secret summit of Arab leaders on a yacht in the Red Sea in late 2015, Middle East Eye can reveal.

    Nader proposed to the leaders gathered on the yacht that they should set up an elite regional group of six countries, which would supplant both the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) and the moribund Arab League.

    Nader said this group of states could become a force in the region “that the US government could depend on” to counter the influence of Turkey and Iran, according to two sources briefed on the meeting.

    Nader brought together Mohammed bin Salman, who was then deputy crown prince of Saudi Arabia; Mohammed bin Zayed, crown prince of Abu Dhabi; Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, president of Egypt; Prince Salman, crown prince of Bahrain; and King Abdullah of Jordan onto the yacht.

    Their respective states, plus Libya which was not represented at the secret summit, would form the nucleus of pro-US and pro-Israeli states.]

  78. @Z-man

    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don’t follow American politics closely these days, but that’s bad – real bad.

    Biden? Don’t make me laugh.

    Biden would beat Trump easy. So long as the Dems don’t run some far left harpy (e.g. Kamala Harris) – which, in fairness, they might well do – Trump is done for.

  79. I do not think that Trumph is an independent president and can launch a war on Iran without the authority of the real powers in America and neither can Bolton. However much the powers in USA and Israel want to do this, they cannot and will not. The West and the US has been tippytoeing towards Russia for two decades and more and Russia and China both know this. A line has been drawn in Syria and it will either end there with vitriolic being poured by both sides ad nauseam for a new cold war or it will escalate quickly and we will be incarcerated before we can comprehend whats happening. Not a bad way to go, almost like saying aloha while sleeping and if in Japan “Sayonora”. . Ta Da baby

  80. I do not think that Trumph is an independent president and can launch a war on Iran without the authority of the real powers in America and neither can Bolton. However much the powers in USA and Israel want to do this, they cannot and will not. The West and the US has been tippytoeing towards Russia for two decades and more and Russia and China both know this. A line has been drawn in Syria and it will either end there with vitriolic being poured by both sides ad nauseam for a new cold war or it will escalate quickly and we will be incarcerated before we can comprehend whats happening. Not a bad way to go, almost like saying aloha while sleeping and if in Japan “Sayonora”. . Ta Da baby
    But a new concept is th hypersonic missile and the president and the congress both have a target painted on their backs now. SOOOOOOOOOOOO Noooooooooooooooo WAR

  81. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer’s remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?

    no

    what it says is that the people who voted for Trump are moral, and that we rejected contrived zio-wars that slaughter innocent people.

    Just like Americans rejected the war when they voted for Wilson, and he promised to keep us out of the war. But the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    Americans rejected the war when they voted for FDR, when he promised to keep us out of the zio-WWII- but the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    and we rejected the satanic zio-wars in the Middle East, when we elected Trump, and he promised to end the evil being done in our name, but the zio-scum are dragging us in, though treachery, as usual

    but, even with all of that, it’s still ragingly obvious that even as Trump is betraying all of us Deplorables, and betraying the decent people of the planet, who held so much hope in him, as he’s succumbing to the zio-treachery of The Fiend

    still, STILL – he is gazillion to the ~nth power, better in every way over the war hag.

    for one, if the American electorate would have voted for the war sow, then that would mean that we are truly irredeemable, and unapologetic for the unprecedented evils the zio-American government has been perpetrating all over the globe.

    but by rejecting the cackling war sow, that means that Americans aspired to be decent people, and were hoping that maybe even the war hag, and her counterpart Obama, might even be sent to the Hague to be charged for war crimes, and then put in a cage, where they belong. Or hanged by the neck, if found guilty.

    so by electing Trump, even as he has turned out to betray us all too, at least we tried to end the Fiend’s Eternal Wars. And give the planet some shred of hope, for a future without the zio-scum destroying all of our lives, even as they murder their way across the planet.

    So go ahead and do your victory dance Corvy, and high-five your homies. It looks like Trump is just another zio-tool, and your agenda will reign ascendant after all.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Rogue
    , @Corvinus
  82. Rurik says:
    @DESERT FOX

    under the Denver airport,

    I suspect something like this is going on in Patagonia as well

    hopefully, Russia and China and others are fully aware of their schemes, and have laid out a contingency plan that will demonstrate to the zio-fiend that there is nowhere to hide.

    if push comes to shove, and Putin is facing the military subjugation by the Fiend, (with all that would mean for Russia and the world)

    hopefully there is a plan, that lets them know they will be the first to go.

  83. Sean says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The Malaysian Chinese were brought in by the Jap army mainly, and the British put them into concentration camps and then expelled them.

    https://law.yale.edu/yls-today/news/professor-amy-chua-publishes-book-political-tribes
    Chua devotes a chapter of her book examining the Vietnam War. Viewing the war through a Cold War communist-versus-capitalist lens, Chua argues, the U.S. completely missed the ethnic dimension of that conflict, which to this day remains almost completely unknown. Inside Vietnam, a deeply resented one percent ethnic Chinese minority controlled as much as 80 percent of the country’s commercial wealth. In other words, a vastly disproportionate number of Vietnam’s “capitalists” were seen as exploitative outsiders, despised by the Vietnamese, both northern and southern. Because we overlooked the ethnic side of the conflict, Chua writes, the U.S. failed to see that every pro-capitalist step it took in Vietnam only inflamed popular resentment. And the United States has persisted in this group blindness abroad, contributing directly to the debacles in Iraq, Venezuela, and Afghanistan.

    As in so many places the clever minority were disproportionately dominant in everything they did. Accordingly in south Vietnam, younger Chinese joined the gorillas to a notable extent and made up a high proportion of the VC, especially in command structure (eliminated in the Tet Offensive). Saigon’s Chinese district was notoriously dangerous for GIs .

    Ethnic Chinese were all kicked out as the Boat People of course. McMaster wrote a book about the failure of civilian leadership to understand what was needed in the Vietnam war but he failed to grasp the constraints in Nam, because the proven proclivity of the Chinese for intervention (eg in Korea) meant that the US was chary about what might provoke China, and they would never have allowed a Phoenix Program against ethnic Chinese as such. Anyway, expulsion works

    https://www.vdare.com/articles/is-population-transfer-the-solution-to-the-palestinian-problem-and-some-others

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  84. iffen says:
    @peterAUS

    But, it would require occupying the shores there.

    Perhaps we will have forward placed assets on the sandbars. :)

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  85. iffen says:
    @Randal

    We can agree on that, for sure.

    I keep telling you that I’m on the same side as you, but you keep rejecting it.

    • Replies: @Randal
  86. ValmMond says:
    @Sean

    we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us

    Because when MI6 or its anonymous analysts have ever lied to anyone. Like Sadam’s WMD, Assad’s chemical barrel bombs, Litvinienko’s plutonium https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/17/litvinenko-and-the-demise-of-british-justice/
    and the innocence of every single British politician ever accused of pedophilia, the truth in the UK is drown out in a myriad of loud and incessant lies.

  87. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Forward “(JTA) — Jewish organizations sparred over the views of H.R. McMaster, the national security advisor, with the Zionist Organization of America attacking him as anti-Israel and the American Jewish Committee defending him.

    ZOA, one of the few Jewish organizations to consistently defend President Trump, issued a report on Thursday sharply critical of McMaster.

    In the report, ZOA claims that McMaster is undermining Trump’s Middle East agenda and the relationship between the United States and Israel by firing officials supportive of the Jewish state and critical of the Iran nuclear deal, including Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the hawkish former senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council.

    The report calls on Trump “to remove General McMaster from his current position and reassign him to another position where he can do no further harm on these critical national security issues.”

    Dan Shapiro, who served as ambassador to Israel under President Barack Obama, and the American Jewish Committee criticized the ZOA report.

    “ZOA claims, on the flimsiest of pretexts that McMaster has ‘animus toward Israel’ and ‘opposes Trump’s pro-Israel policies’,” Shapiro tweeted. “Nonsense. Every Israeli official who met McMaster has found him to be deeply sympathetic, friendly, consistent with longstanding U.S. support for Israel.”

    Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/379615/jewish-groups-spar-over-trump-national-security-adviser-mcmaster-s-israel-r/”

    shows the most radical among the Jewish population and among the leaders of the population always win . This pattern has an unbroken record from 1917 . Then the radical fanatics destructive philosophy becomes mainstream in one or one and half decades.

    • Replies: @renfro
  88. RobinG says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Awesome reality stated in “Casting ballots is for suckers.”

    So what’s YOUR PLAN for righting the ship? Or is this your brand of virtue signaling?

  89. peterAUS says:
    @iffen

    Well….the only way to try to keep the Hormuz open is to have control all along that coast. Troops there…..

    A huge undertaking requiring a major effort from USA and allies.

    It will, should it happen, be a major regional war demanding proper (heavy) divisions and such.In essence an effort similar to both Iraqi wars.

    I believe it could be done.

    Is it likely, well, looking at all this recent in D.C…..probably. I’d say 70/30.

    • Replies: @iffen
  90. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The voters, left and right, consist of 100% Zombie. This includes some of the mentally challenged author zombies at Unz who love to keep score and argue over the merits of the puppets just as much as the credulous children who enjoy their chicken scratch op-eds.

    What happens when one man gets to decide major issues? They’re bribed. Steve Mnuchin gave so much money to Kamala Harris because he wanted him to dress nice for the elite puppet galas that the rich people organize.

  91. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    I guess I’ll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?

    I’d rather be locked up in Gitmo surrounded by decent people who are willing to speak truth to power and fight against the NWO, than roam free among the clueless cucks and libtards who eagerly await the ushering in of the Zionist dystopia that awaits them, let alone battle against it.

    • LOL: iffen
    • Replies: @Rurik
  92. iffen says:
    @peterAUS

    from USA and allies.

    Would our BFF in the ME get involved? I think so.

  93. geokat62 says:

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  94. geokat62 says:

    than roam free among the clueless cucks and libtards

    Apologies to the clueless PEAbrains for forgetting to include them in this list.

  95. QNA says:
    @RobinG

    RobinG, there’s more to civil society than electoral politics. Even before you saw the DNC and Podesta emails, you had to know your electoral ceremony had futility built in. The Electoral Integrity Project ranks US elections last among Western nations.

    https://theconversation.com/american-elections-ranked-worst-among-western-democracies-heres-why-56485

    Gilens and Page already proved that you’re not rich enough to have any say in elections.

    If you went into a restaurant and there were always two items on the menu, the shit sandwich and the low-fat shit sandwich, Would you eat there? Of course not, you’d firebomb the place.

    There’s an alternative staring you in the face. Treaty bodies, charter bodies, and special procedures have forced more reform than any elections in the past twenty years. And those processes are much more open to public participation, because they draw on inputs from independent civil society organizations that the duopoly parties ruthlessly suppress.

    One way to get involved is: ushrnetwork.org
    Another is blackallianceforpeace.com
    A third is economichumanrights.org

    Get into that instead of party politics and interesting things happen. You stop wasting your time on two- or four-year cycles where you pick a predetermined side and sit and wave your pom-poms in the stands, recite slogans that change nothing, and get screwed again and again. You have a different set of four-year cycles: treaty body review of binding human rights instruments, which oversee your government based on comprehensive world-standard criteria, chapter and verse. Unlike your authorized political parties, they actually, institutionally give a shit what you think. You see them working with your civil society organizations to pin down government derelictions in Geneva in the most public forum in the world. The US government doesn’t care what you think, but they are exquisitely sensitive to international pressure.

    When your government loses your trust, you go over its head to the world.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  96. Z-man says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Biden would beat Trump easy.

    Again no. Biden is even a bigger clown. He wouldn’t get any of the Sanders vote to begin with and the establishment Republitards would have a field day with his gaffs.
    But we digress, the problem now is the resurgence of the NEOCON beast.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  97. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    Thanks Geo,

    and same to you

    did you get a load of this one?

    iffen says:

    March 24, 2018 at 8:06 pm GMT
    @Randal

    We can agree on that, for sure.

    I keep telling you that I’m on the same side as you, but you keep rejecting it.

    I confess I got a good belly laugh out of that one ;)

    looks like poor lil’ orphan iffen is lost without his mommy Maven, and keeps getting ‘rejected’

  98. Randal says:
    @peterAUS

    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it’s feasible and quite possible.

    Of course it’s feasible, just like overthrowing the government of Iraq and occupying that country was feasible, and keeping the collaboration government in power in most of South Vietnam was feasible – we are talking about a superpower versus a medium sized regional power. The issue is whether it is feasible at any remotely acceptable cost, and for how long the US can bear the ongoing costs politically and economically, and what the diplomatic price of yet another such blatantly illegal military aggression will be.

    Occupying the Persian Gulf shores is obviously do-able, but as you say it is a full blown war operation, which will require the destruction of Iranian air defences, and of major mobile Iranian military forces, and of Iranian missile capabilities and the ongoing protection of the occupying forces from active military harassment. This will have to be done illegally and most likely in the face of active, if not official, Russian support to the Iranian military, and Chinese economic support. Even if US pressure can halt trains through Azerbaijan and the ‘Stans, cargo ships full of Russian weapons and “volunteers”, financed by China, who will if they have any sense also take the opportunity to get some experience for their own “volunteers” as well, will be landing regularly at Iran’s Caspian Sea ports, under Russian air cover. In the initial phase there will likely have been significant damage around the region from Iranian missiles to military and oil infrastructure, and harassment of such targets will continue. The Iranian military is not the Iraqi military of 2003, demoralised and under-equipped by years of sanctions and isolation, and nor is it inexperienced in modern warfare, after Iraq and Syria. Meanwhile, US forces and assets in Iraq will be targeted by local Iranian sympathisers, and likewise in Afghanistan, where attacks on US forces will suddenly have access to heavier weapons , air defences and artillery than they ever have so far.

    Fortunately, the US is solidly politically united and well capable of bearing heavy ongoing losses in a war on the other side of the planet that is not remotely in its national interest, and has sound economic fundamentals that will allow it to easily sustain the ongoing massive equipment replacement and logistical costs in the global economic collapse environment created after a massive spike in the price of oil.[/sarcasm]

    But of course, none of that might happen. There’s always the possibility, ever-beloved of warmongers, that US troops finally will actually have a war whose costs do not massively exceed what its advocates claim.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  99. Rurik says:
    @Z-man

    Biden is even a bigger clown

    I got a chuckle out of that one

    • LOL: Z-man
    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @renfro
  100. Randal says:
    @iffen

    Nobody like you who believes in suppressing free political speech, as you do, is “on my side”. At most, we might share objectives in some particular disputes.

    • Replies: @iffen
  101. chris says:

    Bolton makes Nikki Haley look like some rabid anti-semite.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
  102. @iffen

    iffen reflected (?) and wrote: “It’s time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K.”

    Hi iffen,

    Oh man, how lucky for me to have read your unique idea, above!

    Guess what, iffy?

    In today’s mail, I received a confirmation from State Department, and beginning April 2nd, I become ZUS Ambassador to Borneo. My embassy residence will be in the capital city, Pongo-Pongo. Central air conditioning and a hot tub!

    Based upon your fine recommendation, asap, I will meet with the Bornean Queen, Stormy Dan-tsunami, and threaten to break off diplomatic relations unless she purchases a (used) F35 and I could grope her whenever the mood strikes.

    Thanks, iffen! I knew you had it “in you” and I do not mean the Maven’s member.

    • LOL: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @iffen
  103. renfro says:
    @anon

    In the report, ZOA claims that McMaster is undermining Trump’s Middle East agenda and the relationship between the United States and Israel by firing officials supportive of the Jewish state and critical of the Iran nuclear deal, including Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the hawkish former senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council

    Glad you posted this.

    Here is the ZOA Report in full.

    https://zoa.org/2017/08/10371905-zoa-nscs-mcmaster-reassign-him-to-area-not-dealing-with-israel-or-iran/

    It goes into great detail on everyone McMaster fired. Who were mostly Jewish Zionist hawks who were writing papers on and pushing a US war on Iran. It names many people….and the one mentioned above for instance, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was put into place by Frank Gaffney who got a friend of Gen.Flynn to suggest hiring him. Another example in the report is Adam Lovinger, who was demoted after being seen in possession of and reading top secret documents on a commercial airline flight. Of course the ZOA neglects to mention the back story on these two…or others.

    The ZOA presented their report to Trump as McMaster firing all the “pro Trump’ people because McMaster was ‘hostile to Trump’. Of course this ploy worked with Trump ‘s anti everything Obama and because all he thinks of is who is loyal to him. They know how to play idiot Trump, just as the Bush adm Zios; Feith, Perle Abrams, Gaffney, Leeden, Wolfowitz, knew how to play Bush’s ego and daddy complex to get him to invade Iraq.

    As said….”Iran hawks are predictably attributing McMaster’s decisions to supposed “hostility to Israel,” but that doesn’t mean much coming from people that define being “pro-Israel” as narrowly as possible. If all of the people McMaster fired happened to be “pro-Israel” Iran hawks opposed to the nuclear deal, that just reminds us that virtually everyone in the Trump administration fits that description.”

    Here’s the kick start. If you are a patriot read the whole thing to see how they operate and lie.

    ”The duties of the National Security Council (NSC) include “coordinat[ing] and direct[ing] the activities of the United States Government relating to combating transnational threats.” 50 U.S.C. § 3021(i). It is thus alarming that National Security Advisor Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster purged from the NSC those officials who were carrying out President Trump’s policies of combating Iranian and radical Islamist transnational threats, and purged from the NSC those officials who support the U.S.-Israel alliance – an alliance that is vital to America’s ability to combat radical Islamist terrorism.
    Instead, General McMaster has appointed officials who are holdovers from the Obama administration, who favor the Iran nuclear deal and are hostile to Israel – officials who are diametrically opposed to President Trump’s policies. Moreover, new revelations demonstrate that General McMaster’s ideology is antagonistic to the President’s policies on these vital issues. The ZOA thus urges President Trump to remove General McMaster from his current position and reassign him to another position where he can do no further harm on these critical national security issues. General McMaster should not maintain a position where he can continue to undermine President Trump’s policies on Iran, Israel and the fight against “radical Islamic terrorism” – a term that General McMaster believes should not even be used”

  104. @Joe Levantine

    …thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ‘ representative democracy’ which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.

    Even the much ballyhooed Athenian democracy only lasted a short time and I haven’t had time to check out my theory, but I suspect it only lasted as long as the silver mines at Laurion ( just outside Athens) were producing.

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.

    As far as “representative” democracy is concerned you are correct and the anti-federalists were onto the scam as well.

    As for Robing G’s challenge, I’d like to know what Robin’s plan is. I suspect it’s somewhat humorous.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @RobinG
  105. anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Hide

    Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes it for it’s evil deads.

    Ooo, is one supposed to be impressed by such “profundity”?

    The Evil Empire is the Darkness, you degenerate.

    The Truth

    LOL! Are you talking about “The Truth”?

    Only hallucinating fools consider such nonsense as “100% God & 100% man,” as The Truth…

    Even Holmes will be stumped by the Mystery of the 200% Whole. ;)

    Good Guys

    Sigh!

    It will not end well for the “Good Guys.”

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  106. Thanks, iffen! I knew you had it “in you” and I do not mean the Maven’s member.

    LOL!

    I miss the ‘Ol Mocker. It isn’t every day a guy can get childishly insulted by one with an IQ of 967…

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  107. @Rurik

    David Hogg graduated from Rodondo Shores High School in California and is not a student of MSD High School, and is a crisis actor involved in the false flag that the deep state pulled of at MSD.

    The whole deal at MSD is a gun control psy ops just like Sandy Hook where the school was closed in 2008, total B.S..

  108. Art says:

    In politics, power is everything. No one in Washington is loyal to Trump – Republicans, Democrats, bureaucrats, and j-media are all in some way or other loyal to the deep state. Even worse, most of them are loyal to Israel first. Even his own daughter is loyal to Israel first. Trump has no friends in the DC halls of power.

    Clearly Bolton is not voter friendly. If Trump should bring America to the brink of another war – he will lose his power with the voters. His friend the stock market is fickle.

    He has so many things going against him, sooner or later something is going to stick. It is 50/50 he will be another broken Nixon figure with at the most four years in power. After Nixon, conservative American values took a huge blow. The same is going to happen with Trump – the J-MSM will see to it.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Trump’s “I will veto the spending bill” hokum was a pathetic waste of words that impressed no one.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  109. renfro says:

    One more time.

    Trump is a “malignant narcissist” characterized by behavior that is impulsive, dramatic and erratic, conceited, boastful, require constant admiration and belittles people he perceives as inferior.
    These types do this because their bullying hides profound insecurity.

    So a insecure and malignant narcissist surrounds himself with psychopaths who are actually treasonous Fifth Columnist working to have the US war on Iran for Israel…..and what do you get?

    I believe I see some signs that military higher ups like McMaster are trying to weed out the Zionist….but remember that the military command opposed the attack on Iraq also…. but the Fifth Column Jews and their bought lackeys pushed it thru anyway.

    • Replies: @Art
  110. @jacques sheete

    Ooops.

    It should read.:

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were not participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  111. anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man

    You lie about Buchanan. That racist degenerate is a White Supremacist, whose goal is World Hegemony… a very villainous and satanic undertaking indeed.

    They are traitors to humanity. No shortage of those in the Evil Empire.

    • LOL: Z-man
  112. @jacques sheete

    Anybody else listen to the “March for our lives” children’s crusade today? Scary stuff. Scripted by Spielberg and the Dems, who also paid for most of it — with a little help from US taxpayers who support public schools, where these snowflakes were indoctrinated.

    The children’s crusade is another slice of the salami by which the (((oligarch))) intend to secure their hold on USA for yet another generation.

    The rally was dominated with cries of “Never Again;” reference was made to students who were in their “holocaust studies” class when the shooter was rampaging. Blacks were hauled onstage in large numbers to demonstrate their victimhood, emote, and lead chants, “Vote them out.”

    Lots of attacks on NRA, lots of kids saying “we need to feel safe, and you adults have failed us.” There was even a spot for several active and veteran US military from Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. who said, “Automatic weapons are for war, there is no reason an American civilian needs those weapons. They are not to be used on American soil.”

    iow for these snowflakes, if okey-dokey to kill innocent black and brown people in Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan and Iran; and a kid who is as messed up as Nikolas Cruz deserves “understanding for his situation” because his prostitute-mother was Jewish and he’s brownish; but “17 majority-Jewish kids in largely Jewish Boca Raton neighborhood getting killed tips the scales, and it’s all Trump’s fault.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  113. renfro says:
    @Rurik

    Joe Biden: “I Am A Zionist. You Don’t Have To Be A Jew To Be A …
    ▶ 1:32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbUPVC4u5M
    Nov 13, 2017 – Uploaded by MediaVidShare2:57. CREEPY UNCLE JOE – Duration: 10:55.

    ‘Biden told US Jews that Israel – not America – guaranteed their …
    http://www.jpost.com/…/Biden-told-US-Jews-that-Israel-not-America-guaranteed-their-secur…;
    Mar 31, 2015 – Vice President Joe Biden told a gathering of prominent American Jewish officials last fall that they should look to Israel – and not the United States – as the ultimate guarantor of their community’s long-term safety. The surprising remarks, which were made during a Rosh Hashana celebration attended by …

    Get a vomit bag before reading further.

    POLITICO44 Blog

    Biden: ‘Jewish heritage is American heritage’
    By JENNIFER EPSTEIN
    05/21/2013 08:07 PM EDT

    [MORE]

    Vice President Joe Biden spoke at length Tuesday night about the influence of Judaism on the United States, dating back to the country’s founding and to the present day as Jews helped shape views on gay rights.
    “The truth is that Jewish heritage, Jewish culture, Jewish values are such an essential part of who we are that it’s fair to say that Jewish heritage is American heritage,” he said. “The Jewish people have contributed greatly to America. No group has had such an outsized influence per capita as all of you standing before you, and all of those who went before me and all of those who went before you.”
    “You make up 11 percent of the seats in the United States Congress. You make up one-third of all Nobel laureates,” he said. “So many notions that are embraced by this nation that particularly emanate from over 5,000 years of Jewish history, tradition and culture: independence, individualism, fairness, decency, justice, charity. These are all as you say, as I learned early on as a Catholic being educated by my friends, this tzedakah.”
    “The embrace of immigration” is part of that, as is the involvement of Jews in social justice movements.
    “You can’t talk about the civil rights movement in this country without talking about Jewish freedom riders and Jack Greenberg,” he said, telling a story about seeing a group of Jewish activists at a segregated movie theater in Delaware. “You can’t talk about the women’s movement without talking about Betty Friedan” or American advances in science and technology without mentioning Einstein and Carl Sagan, or music and Gershwin, Bob Dylan and “so, so, so many other people.”
    “I believe what affects the movements in America, what affects our attitudes in America are as much the culture and the arts as anything else,” he said. That’s why he spoke out on gay marriage “apparently a little ahead of time.”
    “It wasn’t anything we legislatively did. It was ‘Will and Grace,’ it was the social media. Literally. That’s what changed peoples’ attitudes. That’s why I was so certain that the vast majority of people would embrace and rapidly embrace” gay marriage, Biden said.
    “Think behind of all that, I bet you 85 percent of those changes, whether it’s in Hollywood or social media are a consequence of Jewish leaders in the industry. The influence is immense, the influence is immense. And, I might add, it is all to the good,” he said.
    “Jewish heritage has shaped who we are – all of us, us, me – as much or more than any other factor in the last 223 years. And that’s a fact,” he said.
    “We talk about it in terms of the incredible accomplishments and contributions” of Jews in America, Biden added, but it’s deeper “because the values, the values are so deep and so engrained in American culture, in our Constitution.”
    “So I think you, as usual, underestimate the impact of Jewish heritage. I really mean that. I think you vastly underestimate the impact you’ve had on the development of this nation. We owe you, we owe generations who came before you,” he said.”

  114. @RobinG

    Got a look at the next generation of voters and their plan to REV up USA:

    -Register
    -Educate
    -Vote

    VOTE THEM OUT was one of the snowflake children’s primary battle cries, “them” being anyone who does not agree with banning automatic weapons and universal background checks; declaring gun violence a national health issue, which will mean schools can acquire federal funding for mental health counselors etc. in every school;

    then,
    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, followed by
    NEVER AGAIN.

    (That last one worked well for Palestinians and others in the Middle East, didn’t it?)

    The insistence on Background Checks has nothing to do with school safety and everything to do with government and other super-snoops having access to a complete dossier on every person in USA — his/her medical, financial, social, political, etc. choices and activities. I’m agin it.

    Likewise, I’m totally opposed to more mental health “screening and counseling,” not just in schools but everywhere. It smacks of Bolshevism.

  115. @Anatoly Karlin

    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don’t follow American politics closely these days, but that’s bad – real bad.

    If it’s any consolation, it was a very close vote. The heart of (disgraced/resigned) Chris Murphy’s old district (18) is NOT blue collar, it’s white-collar conservatives w/ lots of Jews influencing local school districts in the area — AISH and CHABAD both have large facilities just a few miles from Murphy’s old local office.

  116. iffen says:
    @Randal

    Nobody like you who believes in suppressing free political speech, as you do, is “on my side”.

    Well, I can see the totalitarian SJWs making hay while the sun shines with your idealized “free speech.” You can ignore the consequences of tolerating the intolerant if you want.

    Soldier on, Randal, soldier on.

    • Replies: @Randal
  117. iffen says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Woodchucker, long time, no habla. Can’t say that I’ve missed it.

    I hope that you are giving Melissa’s twat the face-time that it deserves. Adopt those bastards and make real Muricans out of them.

    Sam seems to be MIA. He must be on some secret Mossad op.

    Our new NSA Director wants you to consider re-upping.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  118. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete amusingly laments: “I miss the ‘Ol Mocker. It isn’t every day a guy can get childishly insulted by one with an IQ of 967…”

    Hi Jacques,

    Admittedly, Maven Sam Shama’s comments sent me to a dictionary several times, & I too “miss him,” that is his talent for uptown, articulate Zio deception.

    Maven must be exhausted from throwing all the fatted swine to the U.R. pearls?

    Selah, paraphrase Former-Secretary of Offense, Donald Rumsfeld, “(Bolton) shit happens.”

  119. anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    So, all of anglo-evil is purely because of zio-scum? Hmm… nope.

    Such deflection is always so transparent and tiring.

    The anglo-deplorable-losers “rejected” the zio-wars because their wretched lives were getting even more miserable.

    Perhaps the likes of Rurik may still cling on to a modicum of morality, given some of your posts, but most of your white supremacist brethren, wouldn’t give a flying fcuk to the spilling of brown “muzzie” blood. In fact, the more the better, right?

    If they actually cared about humanity, one of your saintly kind would have drilled a neat hole on top the fugly witch who spewed, “it was worth it,” that is, given your kind’s propensity to drill such holes for the most minor of faults (e.g. Adam Purinton).
    I take her name especially because of the little lives who paid for such inhumanity.

    The anglo-scum and the zio-scum form the basis of, Synergy of Evil.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  120. Maven must be exhausted from throwing all the fatted swine to the U.R. pearls?

    That, and it must’ve been tiring ducking all the swine tossed back at him. Funny little cockalorum, he was.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  121. Randal says:
    @iffen

    You can ignore the consequences of tolerating the intolerant if you want.

    The pretext of “not tolerating the intolerant” has always been just that – a pretext for the dishonest and the hypocrite.

  122. @iffen

    Iffen being “all he can be” to me: “Our new NSA Director wants you to consider re-upping.”

    Hi iffen,

    Must “rope a dope” and say nope.

    By chance, remember what “The Greatest” once defiantly said about going to ‘Nam?

    Because I like you, & despite your willful stupidity, I will reply to the “re-upping” opportunity by a (paraphrased) channeling of the late-Ali’s plain-spoken words:

    “Ain’t no sand nigger ever called me a ‘bacterial strain.”

    Thanks, iffy.

  123. Art says:
    @renfro

    I believe I see some signs that military higher ups like McMaster are trying to weed out the Zionist….but remember that the military command opposed the attack on Iraq also…. but the Fifth Column Jews and their bought lackeys pushed it thru anyway.

    Don’t forget the roll 9/11 played in starting the Iraq War.

    An Iran War will require a false flag to get it started.

    You can be 100% sure that the Jews have a plan.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. EVERY US general publicly supports Israel.

  124. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    Of course it’s feasible, just like overthrowing the government of Iraq and occupying that country was feasible, and keeping the collaboration government in power in most of South Vietnam was feasible – we are talking about a superpower versus a medium sized regional power. The issue is whether it is feasible at any remotely acceptable cost, and for how long the US can bear the ongoing costs politically and economically, and what the diplomatic price of yet another such blatantly illegal military aggression will be.

    Occupying the Persian Gulf shores is obviously do-able, but as you say it is a full blown war operation, which will require the destruction of Iranian air defences, and of major mobile Iranian military forces, and of Iranian missile capabilities and the ongoing protection of the occupying forces from active military harassment.

    Yes.

    And, yes for the rest of it except

    ….capable of bearing heavy ongoing losses in a war…

    I don’t see “heavy”. Moderate to light.

    As for:

    There’s always the possibility, ever-beloved of warmongers, that US troops finally will actually have a war whose costs do not massively exceed what its advocates claim.

    Irrelevant for at least first 3 months of that war.

    • Replies: @Randal
  125. turtle says:

    Trump is owned.
    I’ll bet now that “bad News Bolton” has been installed as Chief Ear Whisperer, the recent bimbo eruptions will somehow disappear.
    Anyone who voted for DJT believing he would somehow be “different” from the myriad other denizens of the D.C swamp has now been given a stiff dose of reality.

  126. @niteranger

    Actually, Israel has indeed defined its borders: The Euphrates in the East, and the Nile in the West.

    • Replies: @Art
  127. @jilles dykstra

    That thought has crossed my mind, too.

    • Replies: @Randal
  128. wayfarer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Anybody else listen to the “March for our lives” children’s crusade today?

    “March For Our Lives – Join a Certified Kosher Movement.”
    “Help Us Create Gun Free Dead Zones!”

    source: (https://marchforourlives.com)

    …..
    …..

    • Replies: @Art
    , @SolontoCroesus
  129. Randal says:
    @peterAUS

    I don’t see “heavy”. Moderate to light.

    Heavy relative to what the US is used to, for sure. In fact most likely “very heavy” compared to what the US has been used to since Vietnam.

    Irrelevant for at least first 3 months of that war.

    Unlikely, I think. I suspect the early stages of such a war would see the first occasions for decades when substantial US assets get taken down with heavy casualties – bases, ships etc, and certainly aircraft. Probably not lots of such assets, but most likely some.

    But certainly we are both speculating here. In the spirit of “the worse the better”: bring it on! I think it will likely be, not the end, and yet not the end of the beginning, but probably the beginning of the end of US global hegemony, and wars like this proposed one are the reason why that is necessary.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  130. Randal says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    That would, of course, make him a coward as well as a buffoon and a liar.

  131. Art says:
    @wayfarer

    Wayfarer,

    There should be before and after NYC 9/11 pictures.

    Only then we can begin to appreciate the amount of destruction unleashed by that devilish act.

    Hmm – 9/11 – who benefited?

    What nation has exhibited hate for the peoples of those cities.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Add it up – millions and millions of hurt lives!

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  132. Z-man says:
    @niteranger

    Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

    Yes sad.
    Take a look at this. https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2018/03/08/us-israel-prepare-to-train-for-joint-missile-defense-ops/
    At the end of a follow up article in the same publication the stupid colored American General says that when hostilities take place we will be taking our orders from the Israelis. Sickening!

  133. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    Heavy relative to what the US is used to, for sure. In fact most likely “very heavy” compared to what the US has been used to since Vietnam.

    Yes and no.

    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that’s only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?

    My point is very simple: nobody cares for casualties for the current all volunteer US military outside of people directly involved there. And, if I am not mistaken, that’s mostly people in “flyover states”. You haven’t seen them protesting anything so far. Will they start when casualties start mounting, yes, a little and nobody will care.

    As for all that “bases, aircraft carriers” etc. I think you are for a nasty surprise there. There won’t be any. Planes, yes, ships up to destroyer, yes, troops up to a platoon, per day, maybe a company at the very start, perhaps.
    Nothing that Administration can’t manage and even use for its own advantage.

    I do believe you feel the same, actually.

    That……..futility…….of all this can be disheartening.

    • Replies: @Randal
  134. Rurik says:
    @anonymous

    So, all of anglo-evil is purely because of zio-scum? Hmm… nope.

    no, the Anglo-evil was just that, British aristocracy perfidy

    the US was dragged into those wars by Zionist (and Anglo) treachery

    I’m American, not British/Anglo, and Americans voted against both of those wars. They were tricked into them by lies about the Lusitania and presidential treachery vis-à-vis Japan, respectively.

    The anglo-deplorable-losers “rejected” the zio-wars because their wretched lives were getting even more miserable.

    you sound rather full of hate.

    the Deplorables voted for Trump because they/we were and are appalled at the slaughter, cost in blood and treasure and because they’re evil and wrong. What does our wretchedness have to do with it?

    your white supremacist brethren, wouldn’t give a flying fcuk to the spilling of brown “muzzie” blood. In fact, the more the better, right?

    full of hate, eh?

    and I don’t know what “white supremacist” is supposed to mean, unless it means white people who demand self-determination, which means not being ruled by non-whites, who despise us and want to see us driven under and blended out of existence. If that’s what you mean by “white supremacist’ then hell yes, count me in. But if it means white people who want to rule non-whites, then you’re barking up the wrong tree, because I personally believe ALL people are entitled to self-determination, and should all be allowed to rule themselves.

    I take her name especially because of the little lives who paid for such inhumanity.

    an evil ghoul for sure

    just like all the war criminals, I’d like to see them dance at the end of a rope.

    The anglo-scum and the zio-scum form the basis of, Synergy of Evil.

    if you mean the pedophiles of Perfidious Albion and the Jewish supremacist Lukidniks, then I agree.

    If you mean white Americans, then I don’t. (to say the least. I even moderated my initial wording to ‘then I don’t’ to comport to the decorum of this forum)

  135. geokat62 says:

    p.s. Add it up – millions and millions of hurt lives!

    Critical missing words included:

    p.s. Add it up – millions and millions of dumb goyim hurt lives!

  136. Art says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Actually, Israel has indeed defined its borders: The Euphrates in the East, and the Nile in the West.

    Did Bolton sign the Project for a New American Century – the blue print for greater Israel – all his clown neocon Israel First buddies did.

    Think Peace — Art

  137. @Sean

    The US was not defeated in Korea by China but held back by the very real threat of Soviet invasion. China was the left arm of the Soviets at the time n Stalin had his stronger right arm Red Army ready to intervene if China got in trouble, which would have rapidly forced a total US defeat n evacuation. China could never have resisted the US without massive Soviet military support n advisors, n only massive clandestine Soviet support allowed the Chinese military to survive its war in Korea.

    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Sean
  138. @jilles dykstra

    Regardless of that kind of rumor, Iran has a strong military that would be very hard to defeat on its own ground. If Iran was beatable in a conventional ground war, the US military would likely have been sent in long ago. There have been more credible (but still false) pretexts for attacking Iran before and it hasn’t been ordered.

    The IDF wouldn’t last long against the Iranian Army. In fact, the IDF isn’t up to much anyway. That’s probably why the Israelis have been hoping to get the US to fight Iran for them.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  139. @Sean

    ” so them playing the innocent again won’t work. Not again .”

    Apparently it won’t work on you. Not again, anyway.

  140. @renfro

    As bad as Trump is, Pence is worse. Pence is as crazy as Bolton, but he keeps his mouth shut most of the time. Pence was intended as Impeachment insurance for Trump, or at least that was the talk back when he was picked.

    I don’t want to see Trump impeached, simply because the democrats shouldn’t ever be allowed to get more power than they have now.

  141. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete

    What makes you think I have a plan? I’m just looking for anything effective.

    Joe L. and the coterie that decry voting don’t have a plan, is the point. Complain, but suggest nothing. NOT voting is for even bigger suckers. Disengage, so the system rolls on without them.

    Then QNA jumps in about “civil society organizations.” Sound like Soros color revolution ops, don’t they? As if the US gov’t. gives a shit about “international pressure.” US gov’t. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.

    QNA’s orgs are okay, so keep trying. But at least realize that the point of those orgs is to build pressure on the gov’t. that exists. They’re not calling for violent revolution.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @QNA
  142. @jacques sheete

    I’m all for being mollified. I couldn’t care less what goes on behind closed doors as long as they bring the tariffs on! Whatever his IQ Trump has finally done what no other Pres in generations had the sense to do. The rest could not spell IQ.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  143. @Jake

    “They are morally blind, or even morally perverse”

    I prefer the term morally retarded. It’s more descriptive of the way I view such people. Morals are just out of reach for people like Pompeo and his ilk. Morality can’t be grafted onto their shriveled souls.

  144. @Anatoly Karlin

    “Biden would beat Trump easy.”

    You ain’t from ’round here, are you, boy?

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  145. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete

    And amongst that 1/3 of Athenians, tyranny of the majority anyway.

    Forgot to include (and thanks to Seamus for posting Caitlin Johnstone first), captures my sentiments, “… now there’s no one left but us homeless nonpartisans…”

    “In addition to Democrats being forced to spend 2016 gaslighting themselves into believing that a warmongering neocon who supported the Iraq war would make a great First Female President, they have also been manipulated by the cult of blind anti-Trumpism into accepting neoconservative death worshippers like Bill Kristol, David Frum and Max Boot into their #Resistance fold.

    So the American mainstream has been successfully manipulated on both sides of the artificial political divide into supporting vestigial Bush neocons, with #TheResistance proudly retweeting depraved death cultists like Bill Kristol while a majority of the #MAGA crowd support Trump’s elevation of Bolton, and now there’s no one left but us homeless nonpartisans to point and scream about where this all seems to be headed.

    Partisan hack Trump supporters are worthless. Partisan hack Democrats are equally worthless. Only those who have awakened from the relentless barrage of mass media psyops and seen beyond the fake uniparty trap can see what’s going on.”

    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dems-kept-cheerleading-bush-era-neocons-now-theres-one-in-the-white-house-84a8e32a1e25

  146. @Sean

    Failure to recognize the reality of group identity n ethnic politics is the distinguishing mark of American ideology at home n abroad. It is the mote in Godzilla’s eye. The blind spot that everyone perceives but which may never be mentioned or allowed to influence policy–even when that policy has been hijacked resulting in riots, wars, n wrecked institutions.

  147. @geokat62

    A clear argument for the criminalization of dual citizenship.

  148. wayfarer says:
    @Art

    September 11, 2001 – United Airlines Flight 93
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  149. RobinG says:
    @QNA

    QNA: “One way to get involved is: ushrnetwork.org”

    Here’s one of [your] brilliant USHRN Organization Members in action -

    Amnesty International: Trumpeting for War… Again

    One must marvel at the first few paragraphs of Amnesty International’s recent press release:
    [It's] an unambiguous call and a justification for war; it seems that AI is calling for a NATO bombing campaign similar to the one staged in Libya in 2011. There is also no ambiguity as to who AI deems to be culpable and ought to be at the receiving end of a “humanitarian bombing” campaign. Before cheering yet another US/NATO war, it is useful to analyse Amnesty International’s record in assisting propaganda campaigns on the eve of wars. It is also worthwhile reviewing AI’s reporting on Syria, and how it compares with that on other countries in the area.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/23/100699/print/

    Also, re. your “advice,” my first concern is war, not identity politics.

    • Replies: @QNA
  150. @anonymous

    Only hallucinating fools consider such nonsense as “100% God & 100% man,” as The Truth…

    Or maybe your scoffing, faggoty-ass take on the hypostatic union simply isn’t what the Church actually believes. You may be too sheep-humping stupid to understand “two natures in one Divine person,” but Augustine, Aquinas, and Pascal were not.

  151. Miro23 says:
    @Art

    In politics, power is everything. No one in Washington is loyal to Trump – Republicans, Democrats, bureaucrats, and j-media are all in some way or other loyal to the deep state. Even worse, most of them are loyal to Israel first. Even his own daughter is loyal to Israel first. Trump has no friends in the DC halls of power.

    But there is another kind of power. If the US public could re-familiarize themselves with the art of street demonstrations, this could prove lethal to the Deep State (DS). The DS can leverage its power through targeting individuals (Congressmen, academics, journalists etc. ) but it has far more difficulty dealing with diffuse opposition (as in an election).

    Public demonstrations are the ultimate diffuse threat, and would force the DS to act – and this is the point – DS violence would become explicit and visible, rather than the usual back door variety. The US public would likely wake up at this point (with the direct contact), while radicalization would expose Pelosi, Ryan and the other collaborators, putting them in a much more dangerous place.

    A motive for street action would be Anti-War. Trump was elected on Anti-War but is going for more ME conflict and more $ Trillions of debt.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @Art
  152. RobinG says:
    @Miro23

    Men are welcome. So are ideas.

    Women Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    Women’s Peace March on the Pentagon

    Peace Activist Cindy Sheehan (whose oldest son Casey was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004), has envisioned a Women’s March to address out of control US militarism, one of the root causes of violence against women.

    CINDY WILL BE LEADING MEETINGS ON THE EAST COAST IN APRIL

    April 5th in Washington DC
    April 9th in Boston
    April 10th in NYC
    April 12th in Long Island
    APRIL 13TH: LANCASTER, PA

    CONTACT: [email protected] COM

    http://cindysheehanssoapbox. blogspot.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/ events/184236778838247/? active_tab=discussion

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Art
  153. Miro23 says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.

    Interesting that you assume that China would face off against the US, and I have to agree with that.

    In a US/Russia confrontation (which is very possible), the worst outcome from the Chinese POV would be a Russian defeat, since Russia is the only country that can challenge the US militarily. China alone has no chance and would be reduced to servitude.

    So, if the face off starts in Syria/Iran the Chinese more or less have to immediately side with Russia for geo-political reasons – not just to protect their investments – and at that point, the US might hesitate if it faced a dual war with Russia and China,

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  154. @Twodees Partain

    After Vietnam, a USA ground war against a determined enemy became impossible.
    Iraq was possible because of the nature of the country.
    Iran is a mountain country, as in the war against Japan, USA losses would be unbearable politically.
    The USA puppet shah is not forgotten.

    No unconditional surrender of Japan, USA loss of life of a million, impossible.
    Robert J.C. Butow, ‘JAPAN’S Decision to Surrender’, Stanford, 1954

    Bombing does not do the trick, as we see in Syria.
    Arming and training rebels, as a USA general admitted before the Senate ‘one does not always know if one arms the right group’.
    A great disadvantage may be that very few USA military speak local languages, what interpreters tell, who knows ?

    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?
    IS and hatred, I think.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @KA
    , @Sean
  155. @wayfarer

    The animation is wrong, according to the coroner, a USA correspondent wrote me, the plane ‘atomised’.
    How this miracle was performed by stupid Muslim terrorists, I still wonder.
    MH17 and MH370 were not atomised.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  156. @Twodees Partain

    I spent a decade in the US.

    And why do I need to be “around here” when I can recall polls from 2016 which showed that any major Dem apart from Hillary would beat Trump easily?

    Oh, and Trump is less popular now, than he was during most of his campaign.

    Short of the Dems wheeling out Hillary’s shuffling corpse or some SJW ethnic minority harpy, Trump will lose as things stand now.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  157. Where does this fit in?

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/israeli-victory-essential-for-middle-east-peace/news-story/d9662ba5fc6b0c3e9d3aa8a42c6cb85a

    It is by Daniel Pipes

    Something similar would no doubt be found on the Middle East Forum’s website

    • Replies: @Randal
  158. Rogue says:
    @Rurik

    I like your reply to Mr Smartass, but there is one detail I must pick up on.

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so? After all, Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and declared war on the US. A week later Germany declared war on the US as well.

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round. The treaty Germany had with Japan certainly didn’t oblige them to so act, as it was a defensive treaty.

    Very possibly the USA would have gone to war with Germany anyway, but that we can only speculate on.

    Can you further enlighten me?

  159. Moi says:
    @The Alarmist

    That would be our choice–but we’ve no business taking the rest with us.

  160. Moi says:
    @renfro

    No, Trump is not the swamp–he is the swamp creature.

  161. @RobinG

    I am glad you asked for my plan, even though I admit that there no one size fits all.
    First, extreme decentralisation.
    Second, electing rulers who should assume direct responsibility for their deeds without being able to hide behind the intricacies of a system of checks and balances.
    Third, Direct democracy by people voting on any issue of major importance especially wars, defence spending and taxes.
    Forth, an education system that frees the individual’s mind from all the methodical programming that we are subjected to at schools and universities. More of an education system that emphasises unhindered creativity, frankness, freedom of speech without the shackles of political correctness, and ethical behaviour.
    In short, small, accountable government that leaves the people to assume responsibility for their deeds or actions without exentricities such as R2P or social engineering and the rest of the so called modern day liberal bullshit.
    Jacques Sheet is one commentator who can see beyond the majority of most Westerners; he sensed that American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.
    If you have a solution please state it. If you don’t, continue casting your ballots for the next layer of governmental fraudsters in our great representative democracy.

  162. @Joe Levantine

    One technical solution to the symptom of ‘ voting for the lesser evil ‘ in our representative democracy is to keep a paper trail of all votes and to give the right of a blank vote of no preference, with any results showing more than fifty percent of the votes as ‘ no preference’ rendering the election null and void. That kind of empowerment of the people against the rigging of elections by money or sheer electronic voting machine fraud would give the common person a true opportunity to foil the corporate and special interest influence over who is to represent the people. Wether the people will seize this opportunity or not will decide if the voters are truly free citizens or just the sheeple.

    • Agree: jacques sheete, geokat62
  163. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Where does this fit in?

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/israeli-victory-essential-for-middle-east-peace/news-story/d9662ba5fc6b0c3e9d3aa8a42c6cb85a

    It is by Daniel Pipes

    Where anything from Daniel Pipes belongs – safely flushed away with the rest of the night soil.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  164. @Randal

    Having once heard him say that the Palestinians needed to be defeated and recognise that they were defeated (as well as saying “I don’t call them ‘settlements’ I call them ‘Israeli towns’ “) I was surprised to come across this interview by coincidence just after linking the article

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/betweenthelines/daniel-pipes-on-jerusalem/9544610

    There is DP calmly suggesting that Trump may be about to support a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem!!!!

    Also I find it very difficult to work out exactly what he is recommending when he advocates defeating the Palestinians, apparently by defensive measures of deterrence.

  165. @RobinG

    What makes you think I have a plan?

    What makes you think that I think you have a plan? I wuz jist throwin yer question back at ya, and if you read my comment you’ll see that I suspected you didn’t have a plan.

    Joe L. and the coterie that decry voting don’t have a plan, is the point.

    That’s only one point and you made a poor attempt at demonstrating it. How do you know that we and the rest of the “coterie” don’t have a plan? Why would we blast it all over the place at this time? Why would we announce any plan to those who wouldn’t understand in any case?

    In case yer still confused about the real point, maybe this’ll help.:

    Blind and deaf, yet she perceived and understood the scam. Note the date.

    “Are not the dominant parties managed by the ruling classes, that is, the propertied classes, solely for the profit and privilege of the few?
    They use us millions to help them into power. They tell us like so many children that our safety lies in voting for them. They toss us crumbs of concession to make us believe that they are working in our interest. “

    -Helen Keller,OUT OF THE DARK, LETTER TO AN ENGLISH WOMAN- SUFFRAGIST* Copyright, 1907

    http://archive.org/stream/outdarkessaysle01kellgoog/outdarkessaysle01kellgoog_djvu.txt

    “…the major political parties have not represented a real political issue since the 1860s. These parties have not stood for opposite political principles; they have differed only about methods.”

    Rose Wilder Lane Give Me Liberty 1936,1954 p49

    https://mises.org/system/tdf/Give%20Me%20Liberty_3.pdf?file=1&type=document

    One more, and note the date as well..:

    “[Teddy]Roosevelt then said : “Pettigrew, you know the two old parties are just alike. They are both controlled by the same influences…”

    - R. F. Pettigrew, “Imperial Washington,” The story of American Public life from 1870 to 1920 (1922), p 234

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt/search?q1=amiable;id=yale.39002002948025;view=1up;seq=7;start=1;sz=10;page=search;orient=0

  166. Randal says:
    @peterAUS

    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that’s only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?

    Looks like we are probably in broad agreement on casualty levels, just not on the political impact. Certainly we are not in the world of a conscript army suffering mass infantry casualties, as in Vietnam or in Korea, but that doesn’t mean the propagandised American people will be completely unaware of and unaffected by daily losses of equipment and personnel.

    It will be more than sufficient to bring home the fact that they are in a war, and to fire up the existing political divisions, which is what matters. Then it’s just a matter of time until it becomes clear nothing of any significance is being achieved – that comes a lot quicker these days than it used to, thanks to the internet.

    As for all that “bases, aircraft carriers” etc.

    I didn’t write “aircraft carriers”, I wrote “ships”, and it appears you are in agreement with me because you yourself wrote “ships up to destroyer”.

    In reality it appears we are not far apart on loss estimates, just on our assessment of the likely impact of those losses.

    Where we do part is in your assumption of the rosiest possible scenario with regard to protection of major assets – bases and capital ships. You, as advocates of war always do, assume that everything will work and therefore there will be no unpleasant surprises. That’s understandable – you have to adopt that inherently dishonest position in order to push your war because if you were honest about the risks then people might start to ask if it is really worth it. In reality, the chances are that there are going to be mistakes and unexpected capabilities that will result in the other side “getting through”. This idea of attacking Iran is something new for the US in modern times – an attack on a substantial enemy on its home turf. It’s a lot bigger than just destroying an Iraqi expeditionary force, or invading an Iraq demoralised and reduced by years of isolation and sanctions.

    I don’t say the Iranians will necessarily get a capital ship – in part it depends on how careful the Yanks are, and whether the Iranians get lucky, but I do think some bases are probably going to get heavily hit – bases don’t move and the only thing protecting them is missile defences and counters working perfectly.

    Regardless, I think your cosy assessment about the US easily weathering – politically – the loss, say, of a couple of destroyers and a few other small ships in the initial fighting, along with ongoing aircraft losses, and probably with nothing to show for it, is most likely wrong. A couple of Arleigh Burkes, or one plus half a dozen mine countermeasures and other small ships, means up to 5-600 men lost. That, alone, is three times the number of US military men killed in the invasion of Iraq, and three times the number killed by enemy action in the 1990/91 war. And the more careful the US is about military losses, the less progress they will have to show for it after a few weeks of fighting.

    But as I said, it’s nothing new that advocates of war seek to downplay the likely costs of their desired war – they always do that, and rely on the “rally behind the troops” effect to prevent their lies from catching up with them. Often, it works. In this particular case, though, I think the uncertainties are high, the visible gains likely all but non-existent (will even the jingoist US sphere legacy media be able to make enough people care that “progress has been made” in degrading Iranian forces, a couple of weeks or a month into the fighting, with no end in sight to the war, and no plausible way to end the war even suggested other than vague fantasies of “they’ll have to give in eventually”) and the collateral economic costs high.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @peterAUS
  167. @Joe Levantine

    … American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.

    True.

    Lincoln’s War was blatant proof that American democracy was a fraud if any were ever needed. Shays’ and the Whiskey rebellion should have been major clues to those not asleep.

    The anti-federalists were correct in theory and in their predictions.

    Even George Carlin with all his supposed faults, stated the issue at hand clearly albeit a bit crudely.

  168. @Rogue

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round.

    The fact that someone declares war is essentially meaningless vis a vis the question of who started it because the shooting phases of war typically follow economic and diplomatic phases of it.

    As you appear to know, the US waged economic war on Japan long before the attack on Pearl. In a similar fashion, the US had been waging war against Germany long before Germany declared war on the US.

    Also note that American Jews boycotted Germany and declared war on Germany in 1933, the same year that FDR recognized the USSR which was a huge threat to the peace and well being of Germany.

    https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

    For further details look up the antics of Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist activist.

    • Agree: L.K
  169. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    In a US/Russia confrontation (which is very possible), the worst outcome from the Chinese POV would be a Russian defeat, since Russia is the only country that can challenge the US militarily. China alone has no chance and would be reduced to servitude.

    Not just servitude but destruction. The wannabe NWO masters don’t plan on ruling over homogeneous, 105 IQ goyim. As a matter of fact, China better up their nuclear capability to the world-ending range in case Russia gets taken out internally after Putin is gone. Some of these deformed globalists are happy to emerge from their shelters years later and rule the world – unless you make it uninhabitable for complex life.

    Desperate times require desperate measures.

  170. @Rogue

    Rogue, here’s a 7,000 word monograph which should provide some background info on who was responsible for WW2, which, as Churchill* himself admitted , was really a continuation of WW1.

    http://www.newensign.christsassembly.com/McKilliam/Causes_and_Effects_of_World_I.pdf

    *I must regard these volumes a continuation of the history of the First World War…

    -Winston Churchill, The Second World War, The Gathering Storm, vol 1, p. xiii (1948)

  171. @Rogue

    Rogue, you might find Raico’s book full of good info. This is relevant to the article’s main topic as well.

    Churchill had been a strong Zionist practically from the start, holding that Zionism would deflect European Jews from social revolution to partnership with European imperialism in the Arab world.69 Now, in 1936, he forged links with the informal London pressure group known as e Focus, whose purpose was to open the eyes of the British public to the one great menace, Nazi Germany. “e great bulk of its finance came from Jewish businessmen such as Sir Robert Mond (a director of several chemical firms) and Sir Robert Waley-Cohn, the managing director of Shell, the laer contributing £50,000.” e Focus was to be useful in expanding Churchill’s network of contacts and in pushing for his entry into the Cabinet.70

    -Ralph Raico, Great Wars and Great Leaders, p 70 (2010)

    https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Great%20Wars%20and%20Great%20Leaders%20A%20Libertarian%20Rebuttal_2.pdf

    • Replies: @Rogue
  172. @Anatoly Karlin

    “And why do I need to be “around here” ”

    It was a joke in reference to the fact that you aren’t American, Anatoly. You could spend several decades here and still not understand American electoral politics, just as I could live in Russia for decades and never understand Russian politics as well as a Russian can.

    More importantly, living here for ten years doesn’t grant deep insights into the thinking of Americans as a people, unless the whole point of living here is to study all the various ethnicities and local idiosyncracies. Even then, you’d be at a disadvantage, as I would be in Russia.

    Your opinion is, of course as valid as mine and no insult was intended.

  173. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    Men are welcome. So are ideas.

    My idea is that the Oct March should be rebranded to:

    Americans Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    American Peace March on the Pentagon

    Just as there were marches organized to protest the looming invasion of Iraq, the American people should participate in marches to protest against the looming attacks on Iran.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @RobinG
  174. @jilles dykstra

    Yes, those points are good illustrations of how an invasion of Iran would likely be a failure. I hold out hope that the neocons will show their asses enough that they may become pariahs and subject to being beaten in the streets when they dare to show themselves in public, if not tried and convicted of treason.

  175. wayfarer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “False Flags: A History of Deception”

  176. annamaria says:

    Violations of international law by Justice David Williams [Family Division High Court Judge] UK: http://johnhelmer.net/the-skripal-case-goes-to-court-for-the-first-time-new-uncertainties-for-the-british-and-russian-governments/#more-18920
    “Following three days of closed-door hearings this week in London, the judge issued a ruling for publication yesterday. …
    The absence of all Russian participation in this week’s London proceeding was ignored by the judge. Nor did he attempt to explain it in his ruling.
    Section 4(7)(b) requires the judge deciding the best interests of an incapacitated person to take into account the views of “anyone engaged in caring for the person or interested in his welfare.” Williams claimed this section applies to “relatives”. The statute doesn’t say so.
    The Russian Foreign Ministry and the Russian Embassy in London say they qualify. The Russians also say that for two weeks following the March 4 attack on the Skripals – that’s more than two weeks before Williams opened his first court hearing – they made this explicit to the Home Office. There is no sign the Russian Embassy engaged British lawyers to surmount the Home Office obstacles by presenting their case in court.
    … the apparent contradiction between what he claimed in court and the statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry in Moscow: “the United Kingdom is … still denying, without any explanation, Russian officials’ consular access to Yulia Skripal envisaged by the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. For more than two weeks now, we have not been able to credibly ascertain what happened to our citizen and what condition she is actually in.”
    — The “Sir” Savile’ judges strike again.

  177. annamaria says:

    Comments on the article by John Holmer on the violation of habeas corpus by the “flexible” UK judges: http://johnhelmer.net/the-skripal-case-goes-to-court-for-the-first-time-new-uncertainties-for-the-british-and-russian-governments/
    “After the vile decision by the arrogant Tory thug, Arbuthnot, replete with nauseating contempt for the UN Tribunal on Arbitrary Detention, all of whose members have more legal expertise in their little fingers than she in her entire carcass, in refusing Assange’s appeal, you can expect NOTHING from the UK ‘justice’ system but class hatred and bias and total subservience to Imperial diktat.”
    — The apparently incompetent Emma Arbuthnot is a wife of a war profiteer James Arbuthnot, a British politician who is a lobbyist both for Israel and the weapons industry. https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/david-cronin/are-weapons-heart-britains-romance-israel
    “In 2015, James Arbuthnot was hired by Thales UK, a branch of the French weapons-maker Thales. He had previously chaired Conservative Friends of Israel. He also sat in the British parliament for 28 years.”
    — It is possible that Justice David Williams and the Arbuthnots attend the same synagogue.
    “… the UK government has just illegally sidestepped the issuance of a writ of habeas corpus. It seems to them a clever idea but the outcome is far from that. A very lucky break for Russia is this silly UK mistake. Finally, something solid has appeared…something utterly false…but manifested in court proceedings…now Russia may press ahead to strip the UK of jurisdiction because the UK is still bound yet to the European Courts.”

  178. KA says:
    @jilles dykstra

    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?

    What does US gain by maintaining , supporting, watching FOX CNN MSNBC or by printing and reading NYT or WSJ ? What does US gain by criticism of Russia? What does US gain by minting embargo on Cuba ,Venezuela , NK?

    Never common folks gained much other than a sense of belonging to high achiever high IQ highly refined culture or club known as a nation. It’s they who the proffering elites benefitting from war and propaganda would depend when times come to physically defend the system . Thats what the school drop out from Virginia ,the deplorable from MI and Ohio could offer having no other skill or resources .
    FOX CNN MSNBC or reading of NYT or WSJ or the local news paper only perpetuate the false dreams and false sense of being in the know by these , McDonald server s , army enthusiast , school drop- out ,poorly paid nurses and teachers and song writers for the empire hollering at a church in Alabama or Texas .

  179. geokat62 says:
  180. Rurik says:
    @Rogue

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so?

    by controlling the banks and the money supply

    Rothschild’s control of England is legendary. The real (and never mentioned reason for the American revolution was the British demand that the American colonies use fiat debt paper as their currency, which would mean slavery to the Bank of England. That was also the reason for the war of 1812, because Rothschild was determined to enslave all governments and people. Andrew Jackson had their number, and so did many patriots.

    I mean why the f’ would any sane nation want to have their currency provided by the world’s greediest men – at interest, that by design can never be paid off, when they can simply print their own?!

    It means slavery. Debt slavery to evil men.

    That’s why it’s in the Constitution that the US print and coin its own currency. But Wilson betrayed us all, and not just Americans, but the world, because after the Jews got their WWII, the Federal Reserve Note was designated as the world’s reserve currency, thereby enslaving the entire planet to the tender mercies of the world’s most evil men; the International Zionist Banksters.

    so this had been going on for a while now, and it was Wilson who arranged for Trotsky to go to Moscow with suitcases full of cash, in order to fund the Bolshevik revolution, that would enslave Russia with that other invention of the International Jew; communism.

    This is why Hitler railed against both capitalism and communism as methods of evil men to enslave their betters.

    anyways, it’s all tied together. We didn’t get where we are overnight

    (must go- to be continued)

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @polskijoe
  181. QNA says:
    @RobinG

    Yes, it’s a big tent, with the usual entryist attempts by statist hand-wringers. AI is indeed a bunch of thots. Fortunately the many non-astroturf groups are consistently obstreperous in the conferences and calls so AI can’t get away with their Blow Shit Up for Peace campaigns there. Whatever you want to do, you just do it and use the network to take it directly to other members and to the outside world in Geneva.

    The guy who founded ushrnetwork moved on himself, to focus on peace with an internationalist solidarity M.O. That’s the second link.

    Don’t confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you’ll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.

    I detect some reflexive hostility in your word choice, like the sarcastic use of brilliant and advice in scare quotes. Do you have different organizing principles that you prefer? Surely you do not hope to vote your way to peace.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @Twodees Partain
  182. Sean says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Sort of, yes. However the US were trying for invasion/ regieme change in North Korea and the CIA failed to predict China’s response (Ray Cline’s career did not suffer). It was a complete failure by the US to understand the total commitment that China had to North Korea.

    Now of course there are people trying to say that the Chinese were just stupidly overreacting, and would not make the same mistake twice with North Korea.

    https://academicarchive.snhu.edu/bitstream/handle/10474/3185/his2017compton.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
    Thus, Mao’s assessment that the U.S. intended to invade his nation, which informed his subsequent decision to send PLA troops into Korea, appears to represent a deeply flawed Chinese use of intelligence in making such a consequential wartime decision.

    Don’t you believe it, the Chinese reaction was predictable, and they would intervene to support North Korea. The diplomatic skills of North Korea and China are underestimated. Nothing is going to happen in North Korea whatever bluffs the US tries. The US knows China is not going to stand for any military action against North Korea. It could do all sorts of things to help Kim if he was attacked, and would. If the US escalated China would too.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/24/world/as-china-threatens-taiwan-it-makes-sure-us-listens.html

    In 2000 it happened again, the US tried to use diplomatically veiled nuclear threats to warn off China from intervening against Taiwan. China responded semi officially by saying very explicitly that it could hit the US mainland with nuclear missiles.

    Iran is different. Overthrowing the Iranian government will be attempted by CIA operations at first, but the chance for that has probably gone. The US are going to use military force, and then get out quick. Iran will fragment into statelets.

  183. Sean says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Iran would be more difficult than Libya, but still doable. The problem in Vietnam that MacMaster did not take account of in his book was that there was a possibility of China intervening if the US took decisive action, but the US could not just walk away because it was losing (the world was watching TO SEE IF THEY WOULD STAND BY THEIR ALLY). Moreover there was no political mandate in the US to withdraw without victory. JFK never ever mentioned that possibility, even in private. Basically the army would have won Vietnam if it had called out the reserves (including chickenhawk John Bolton who, as he admitted, was dodging a muddy end in rice paddy by volunteering for the Yale National Guard).The US wanted to win but not pay the price. US national mobilization was required to win in Vietnam as head of the Army General Harold Johnson later said.

    MacMaster was sacked for wanting to keep the Iran deal, and that means he did not want to attack Iran. Anyway Iran is not going to require a occupation The Iranian leadership are sweating silver bullets, they know Bolton has been brought in for war, and an attack is definitely coming.

  184. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @Randal

    Iran is not alone anymore. Neither is Syria, Eastern Ukraine or even NK. Forget everything you know about “degrading” 3-rd world countries from the comfort of your armchair. Both Russia and China are losing their sense of humour. Red lines are everywhere and many of them have been crossed already. Make sure to thank the Tribe.

    “We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.”

    (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

  185. Randal says:
    @QNA

    Don’t confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you’ll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.

    This is flat out false.

    Antidiscrimination is inherently part of the ideology of identity politics. Discrimination is a basic and necessary tool of human interaction, and the pretence that it is harmful when applied to “special” categories of people is the foundation of modern identity politics.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @QNA
  186. QNA says:
    @Randal

    You use the word discrimination in a general, vaguely perceptual, sense to make a uncontroversial statement, but then you get wrapped around the axle.

    In human rights law, discrimination is a term of art with a more specific meaning. It means denying rights to certain sorts of people. If you actually believe in rights, you know you can’t do that, because if it isn’t universal, it isn’t a right.

    The foundation of modern identity politics is statist divide-and-rule.

    • Replies: @Randal
  187. @QNA

    Maybe Robin’s “reflexive hostility” is an announcement that she smells a communist. If she doesn’t mean that, let me state that I smell a communist. You are a communist, aren’t you? You may as well own up to it. There’s no need to be ashamed of what you are, is there?

    • Replies: @QNA
  188. Sean says:
    @Sean

    August 15, 2008

    Leaders were once named after their most (in)famous acts. In the 10th century Ethelred, king of England, was called “the Unready” after he panicked at the prospect of Viking pirates coming to raid his shores; he was forever after known as “Ethelred the Redeless” — the king who was bereft of counsel in the face of barbarian attack.

    Well, here we are a thousand years later, and our vaunted leader-to-be Barry O is about as ready as Ethelred was in the year 1000 CE. Because we are still threatened by barbarians today. Check the headlines if you don’t believe it.

    Vladimir Putin should be known throughout the world as “Putin the Poisoner.” His signature act — the action that defined Putin’s character for all the world to see — was the radioactive poisoning of KGB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London, using polonium-210. The kicker is that you can’t just buy polonium-210 at your local chemical supply store. You can only get it if you have a nuclear weapons industry, because there you need it to start a nuclear chain reaction. It’s a super-tricky substance to control. Putin’s assassins left their traces all over London. Chemically, Po-210 is 250,000 times more toxic than hydrogen cyanide. But the Russians have always favored overkill.

    Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/08/barry_the_unready_and_putin_th.html#ixzz5AmQp7I5I

    Vlad the Impaler says he never impaled anyone, and cant understand why anyone disbelieving him

    • Replies: @annamaria
  189. @iffen

    Yes, let’s stop subsidizing and entangling ourselves militarily with the Future Islamic Republics of Britain, Germany, and France, as well as the Koreas (which are inevitably part of China’s Dominant sphere if not eventually annexed by China).

    The USA ought to ally itself with the countries that have some realistic chance of preserving a semblance of our civilization and physically protecting a living space for our European peoples and working amicably with more compatible, more intelligent peoples:

    Russia

    Hopefully Poland, Hungary, Belarus, Ukraine

    any other Eastern European/Slavic or Balkan countries that reject the US/EU elite-supported Muslim/African invasion of the (semi)civilized world … This necessarily will mean countries that aren’t in the EU, or who have the sense to leave the EU before the mandatory Islamic and Retard wave drowns them too.

    Japan

    It’s a slim roster, to be sure.

    • Replies: @polskijoe
  190. yes, a very unfortunate, dangerous development. however the works of Herve Ryssen may give us some insight on how we’ve reached this point

  191. @jilles dykstra

    If any president wanted war, and lowered the USA standard of living, it was FDR.

    Thank you for that excellent point.

    I believe Britain during the 30s was also undergoing a drop in the standard of living. If I remember correctly, Reed, in his “Controversy of Zion” made that point.

    In contrast, Germany, despite International Commie agitation and threats from all sides, the depression, the strangling effects of the Versailles Treaty and the declaration of war against and boycott of Germany by Jews, the standard of living was improving and apparently decent. Also the workers were treated much better in Germany than in the USSR (slave labor camps and all), Britain and the US.

    The three largest fascist states couldn’t have Germany empowering, or at least benefitting, the workers.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  192. QNA says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Your bold challenge tickles my funny bone. It’s as if some bejerkined wop flopped out of a time machine and denounced me as a Black Guelf.

    Do you know any communists? Where do they rule, nowadays? Are they still bent on world domination, or are they starting to get discouraged? I’d love to meet one, that would be a hoot.

    Human rights law is entirely agnostic on the question of state ownership of the means of production. You’ll be happy to hear that, as human rights law is US state and federal common law and the supreme law of the land, in accord with the Supreme Court’s the Paquete Habana decision. Are THEY communists? I thought they were just crooked assholes.

    No one cares how you organize your economy, as long as your UN member nation measures up. Problem is, your UN member nation doesn’t cut it. Your kids get tertiary education at the cost of lifetime debt peonage. You have to pay to fix your teeth but you get useless sitting-duck F-35s for free. No one there’s a commie, they’re just poor downtrodden lumpenproles now.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  193. @wayfarer

    In Stefan Molyneux’s conversation w/ Prof. Duchesne, the latter explained how “universal human rights” evolved to rationalize the notion that national rights are meaningless, but an immigrant to a land. legal, illegal, whatever, possessed “universal human rights,” therefore should be accepted as a citizen of the nation to which he/she migrated.

    http://www.unz.com/video/stefanmolyneux_the-fall-of-canada-prepare-yourself-accordingly/

    With that in mind, consider the meme repeated by the March for Our Lives non-marchers (it was not a march, more like a rally — or even a Hollywood stage play): “Automatic weapons [let's call them WMD] are weapons of war, used by military in war; ordinary citizens had no need for such weapons and should not be permitted to purchase them or use them.”

    This meme was reinforced in a cameo by several members of military who had seen action in Iraq, etc., who said they used those WMD in war (to defend American freedoms and values); they were not to be used by citizens.

    The Children’s Crusaders want to feel secure in their schools; “It is not okay that I am afraid to go to school. I have a right to feel safe and the government has an obligation to make me feel safe.” That is, feeling safe in school is a “human right.” A “universal human right.” Just like someone who sneaks across a border to enter USA has a “universal human right” to live in USA and be protected by USA taxpayers.

    One step further: If “human rights” are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere — Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass — have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.

    Yet the Children’s Crusaders actively advocated for members of US military to use WMD “over there,” but not over Here.


    In my daily descent into the purgatory of C Span Washington Journal, a white female who identified as a “baby boomer” who was politically activated by participating in Vietnam war demonstrations (on the side of Communists), said the “March for our lives” was just that same kind of event.

    I beg to differ. Most of the protests re Vietnam were in opposition to war.
    The March for Our Lives was the opposite: not only did those children express no concern with use of US taxpayer funded WMD when used to kill black, brown as well as whitefish people “over there,” they endorsed those uses; their only concern was that They be protected from them in their (((Boca Raton))) enclaves Over Here.

    These kids even registered outrage over the Florida proposal that all backpacks be transparent! ME? You want to inconvenience ME??

  194. Sean says:
    @KA

    MacMaster wanted to accept the deal with Iran, but get tough with Russia. In reality the US would only ever be shadow boxing with Russia, which is too dangerous to take any kind of military action against of course. They like to have the reputation of being a Hawk, but no one actually contemplated anything beyond words with Russia/ A reputation as a Hawks in relation to Russia (and North Korea) means nothing. Nobody in the Beltway is fooled by the rhetoric. There is a reason the early Cold War nuclear bazooka was quickly phased out and nothing like it exists now. Iran is different, the Hawks on Iran are intent on destroying it.

  195. @jacques sheete

    Part of what led to the calamity of the 30’s was the credit inflation of the 20’s, that was to a large degree motivated by Britain’s refusal to acknowledge that the pound had been permanently weakened by the rigors of WW1. As usual, the banksters’ tentacles left their mark at the crime scene.

    https://mises.org/library/monetary-breakdown-west

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  196. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    Then it’s just a matter of time until it becomes clear nothing of any significance is being achieved – that comes a lot quicker these days than it used to, thanks to the internet.

    That works both ways. Managing public I mean.
    What is being achieved anywhere as far as that public is concerned and there are casualties?
    In this case the only what will matter is:” we are preventing the collapse of the oil trade”. Accepting death/mutilation (never shown up, just read about) of dozens of US military personnel daily will not, IMHO, create any problem for the Administration. On the contrary.

    …it appears you are in agreement with me because you yourself wrote “ships up to destroyer”.

    Correct. Carrier loss always comes up on this webzine when this topic is concerned. And, when I say “loss”, remember Sheffield. Or Cole. It would be like that. Won’t create any issue.

    …..you have to adopt that inherently dishonest position in order to push your war ….

    Haha…this is very good.
    If a British gentleman can write something like that what can one expect from the rest of the crew here. Even you can’t accept that I am trying to put some cold facts here in a sea of wishful groupthink in an echo chamber. No prob. More to come.

    It’s a lot bigger than just destroying an Iraqi expeditionary force, or invading an Iraq demoralised and reduced by years of isolation and sanctions.

    It is bigger. My point is not so big to create serious domestic problems for Administration.

    Regardless, I think your cosy assessment about the US easily weathering – politically – the loss, say, of a couple of destroyers and a few other small ships in the initial fighting, along with ongoing aircraft losses, and probably with nothing to show for it, is most likely wrong. A couple of Arleigh Burkes, or one plus half a dozen mine countermeasures and other small ships, means up to 5-600 men lost.

    Wrong.
    You take ship loss with all hands. No. Ship loss as sunk, burnt down, but, with say, 60-70 men lost. Same for sweepers etc. Altogether around less than 1000. Remember Falklands?
    Bottom line, shall not affect the Administration in a negative way.

    But as I said, it’s nothing new that advocates of war seek to downplay the likely costs of their desired war – they always do that, and rely on the “rally behind the troops” effect to prevent their lies from catching up with them. Often, it works.

    Yes and it does.
    It will this time too.
    Just keep “no oil-economy collapse” mantra high and up.
    At least for three months.
    Three………..months………only.
    After that could be “end of major hostilities, pulling out, peace negotiations, blah…blah…”.
    Sounds familiar?

    • Replies: @anon
  197. @Sin City Milla

    How many factories do you expect will be built and staffed as a result of those tariffs?

    Goldman (“Spengler) addressed the wariness of investors to take on development of significant physical facilities in USA (preferring, instead, less capital-intensive software innovations) because Chinese and other emerging third world labor would still be cheaper; China can still build it cheaper.

    • Replies: @edNels
  198. QNA says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Duchesne doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He probably doesn’t even know what instrument or article he’s trying to refer to. Migrant rights have nothing to do with citizenship. You have the right to leave and return to your country. Period. You could look it up, even though he obviously never did (you know, he’s Sorta Rican, he gets a break from affirmative action.)

  199. RobinG says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Hey Joe,

    Thanks for trying to answer, but those are goals…(your #164 also)…. that is not a plan, so let me state the queston again. How do you propose to achieve those goals?

    Street marches? (Those kids got impressive turnout yesterday … let’s see what comes of it. There were big marches in 2003, but Bush/Cheney still attacked Iraq.)
    “Civil society orgs” like QNA believes?
    Violent rebellion? You scorn voting. So, are you going to overthrow the govt.? How will you do it? (This question has probably triggered the NSA bot, LOL.)

    My guess, since you (and JS also) did not seem to understand the question, your “plan” is to keep complaining in comments sections. That’s harmless.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  200. Well, as many here have ridiculed the delusional Trump hopefuls that their dear leader was a 3D chess player, I have to confess that I was in the ranks of the delusional who held out hope for Trump being a diabolical chess player who was quietly draining the swamp with masterful application of the Art of the Deal. To my sorrow, that delusion ended in a disappointing clatter with the appointment of Walrus Bolton a few days ago. This is the ultimate act of betrayal from those of us who had believed that MAGA was not just campaign rhetoric and were willing to turn a blind eye to all that transpired since he was elected, believing that these were all deeper machinations towards the greater good of restoring this republic.

    Sadly, childhood always ends. I turned off the lights and locked the door behind me.

    But, once we stop believing in Santa and the Tooth Fairy, delusion is replaced by wisdom. Regardless of being a disappointment, Trump has shown that we, the people, do have the power to thwart the desires of the deep state and elect the unelectable. We have shown that Jewish power is not invincible and that next time, if we can find the right person, we do have the power to be king makers.

    In the past, my champion was Ron Paul. Unfortunately, despite the honesty and purity of that great man, he was found wanting in his ability to coalesce this diverse nation into a unified voice. The Jewish media was able to make mincemeat of his proposals and divide the people successfully and fool them into thinking that somehow his domestic policies, something that a POTUS has little control over, took precedence over this foreign policy, ignoring that foreign policy shapes domestic policy. Ron continues to be a voice of reason, and his evangelism of key Libertarian principles may yet help, but he is no longer the one who will lead us to victory.

    Who then?

    Maybe Rand Paul, with all his many failings and the mandatory expression of fealty to Israel, could be the man to watch. It is hard not to become jaded as decades of betrayal take their toll on our faith and increases our cynicism, but without faith there is no hope, and without hope there is no resistance to the forces of darkness. This from an atheist. Go figure!

    No one else comes to mind, unless a new Messiah rises in the next few years.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  201. @SolontoCroesus

    If “human rights” are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere — Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass — have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.

    Irrefutable point S2C.

    Sometimes I put my hands over my ears to shut out the deafening din of manufactured events and afford myself a few scant moments of clarity and escape from the engulfing confusion, and can predict:

    There will be no war in North Korea.
    There will be no war in Iran (at first).

    But,

    There will be a massive war in Lebanon, which will spill over to Syria, instigated by the forces of evil in Israel, funded by our neocons and supported by the crypto-jews in KSA.

    Tel Aviv will go up in flames.
    The Israelis will try to flee to Europe and the US, but as you sow, so shall ye reap.

    Having stoked the anti-immigration flames in Europe by forcing hordes of refugees from Muslim countries to disrupt European cultures, very few Israelis will find refuge there (except perhaps in Germany and Sweden).

    So, they will come to our backyards, armed with dual citizenship, supported by the diaspora, and settle in our neighborhoods. With them, they will bring a culture of hatred, deceit, and all that is vile, and the Synagogue of Satan will take root in our troubled nation sowing the final seeds of our destruction.

    We are already a nation divided and pitted against each other. So few of us realize that this is a manufactured conflict. While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don’t stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @jacques sheete
  202. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    It won’t be rebranded, and for good reason. I’ve said this before, but in case you missed it (or couldn’t process it) the title Women’s March on the Pentagon is a direct rejoinder to the Pussy Warriors who refused to include anti-war concerns.

    As for what “American people should participate in,” how kind of you to say. You’re a good researcher, Geo, but you’ve made it clear that you’ll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else. Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.

    The same activists are struggling to reignite a peace movement. Their position is pitifully reactionary. Countering Bolton’s appointment is the latest scramble, but the first days of action were already in the pipeline:
    April 14-15, nationally coordinated regional mobilizations to challenge the war makers.

    http://www.springaction2018.org/

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @jacques sheete
  203. QNA says:
    @RobinG

    ‘As if the US gov’t. gives a shit about “international pressure.” US gov’t. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.’

    Spoken like a woman who’s never seen what goes on in Geneva. Who’s never seen her government babble and cringe and make fools of themselves in front of their victims with the whole world looking on. Who’s never noticed the government scrambling to propitiate the treaty parties who make their binding law. Here, do yourself a favor, get past facile leftist defeatism:

    http://www.treatybodywebcast.org/

    ‘They’re not calling for violent revolution.’

    Spoken like an FBI provocateur. The Soviet bloc was destroyed quite peacefully. That is how the USA will go. Black Alliance for Peace is in fact looking ahead to the end of the USA. The USA has broken the cardinal rule: don’t piss off people who know how to knock over a regime. (and that doesn’t mean Soros, they’re dilettantes with no grasp of revolution in practice.) That’s the reason for this xenophobic propaganda panic.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  204. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    You’re a good researcher, Geo, but you’ve made it clear that you’ll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else.

    I guess you inferred this from the fact that I flew almost 500 miles to participate in the tedious work of organizing for LFTL, right?

    Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.

    I have no clue where you get this “stuff” from.

    Look, you said you were open to ideas, so I proffered one. You don’t like it, that’s fine. You can take it or leave it.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @SolontoCroesus
  205. RobinG says:
    @QNA

    Are you one of those BAP//UNAC types who refuse to cooperate with anti-war conservatives, who won’t attend a conference if Libertarians are included? What will you do with them when YOUR tyranny rules the democracy? Maybe you ARE a Bolshevik.

    • Replies: @QNA
  206. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    You’re talking like Taxi, lol. Too bad Ron only sent a video to Orindo. Check out #204 f0r SpringAction. What do you make of QNA posts?

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  207. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Part of what led to the calamity of the 30’s was the credit inflation of the 20’s…

    I’m confident that credit manipulation as well as commodity, futures and stock market manipulation are all engineered. Cui bono? I think you and I know.

    First, inflate credit, then pull the slop tray away, things crash and the money boys buy up what they want for pennies on the dollar. It’s a simple, but slick trick that seems to always work.

    …we were laboring under a dropsical fulness of circulating medium. nearly all of it is now called in by the banks who have the regulation of the safety valves of our fortunes and who condense or explode them at their will. lands in this state cannot now be sold for a year’s rent:

    -Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 7 November 1819

    http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/founders/default.xqy?keys=FOEA-search-1-1&expandNote=on#match1

  208. @RobinG

    It won’t be rebranded, and for good reason. I’ve said this before, but in case you missed it (or couldn’t process it) …

    You may want to ditch the smarm and sit back and listen. It’s evident to all but you that geocat62 knows more than you ever will and can “process” it far faster than you could ever hope to.

    You smart mouths just don’t know when to pipe down, do you?

  209. @Cloak And Dagger

    While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don’t stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.

    Nice, succinct summary.

    • Agree: geokat62, ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  210. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Yes.

    Are we preparing for a full blown war with Iran?
    Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson

  211. peterAUS says:
    @RobinG

    Good video.

    One thing, though.
    The Col. said something like “…invest Iran for 10 years to prevent nuclear capability”.
    Didn’t get that.

    I’d go for “Yugoslavia” scenario first: that “round the clock” capability the Col. did mention to hammer the regime in Tehran into submission. Maybe with stirring some internal things, incursions etc.
    If Hormuz is threatened escalate. That escalate could go into limited invasion to control that coast there.
    All could be accomplished in 3 months I guess.
    Cessation of hostilities, agreement with inspections of possible nuclear facilities etc follow.
    Done.

    Yes, I know.

    More likely, should the above happen it won’t stop there. Well, maybe for 6 months/year.
    And then the next phase for the regime change in Tehran. Iran out.
    Next step.

    Because, we do know, I guess, what/who is the real target at the end.

  212. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    “Vladimir Putin should be known throughout the world as “Putin the Poisoner.” His signature act — the action that defined Putin’s character for all the world to see — was the radioactive poisoning of KGB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London, using polonium-210.”
    – Sean, do you have a single substantiated evidence for the above anti-Russian propaganda written by the intellectually dishonest Mr. Lewis in 2008? It does not take long to see his dishonesty.
    A sample (2014): James Lewis: “The major causes of the new world war can be found in oil-fueled hate propaganda sponsored by Gulf Arabs and Iran.” – This is rich coming from a mouth of an American Jew.
    More: “Iran and Saudi Arabia … have lost control of the wars they started thirty years ago. Muammar Gadhafi was overthrown.” — You see, according to Mr. Lewis, Clinton and her AIPAC friends have nothing to do with the death of Quaddaffi.
    More from the zioconish Lewsi: ” What we know at this time is that massive aggression against our national security is now worldwide. We know with certainty the ideological origins of worldwide war — and that it is not, repeat not our fault, contrary to liberal illusionists.” — Is Mr. Lewis really that stupid that he fails to learn about some 1000 American bases positioned around the globe?
    “According to a new poll from WIN and Gallup International, the U.S. represents the largest threat to world peace today. In their annual End of Year poll, researchers for WIN and Gallup International surveyed more than 66,000 people across 65 nations and found that 24 percent of all respondents answered that the United States “is the greatest threat to peace in the world today.” http://www.ibtimes.com/gallup-poll-biggest-threat-world-peace-america-1525008
    – You see, facts have anti-Lewis bias. Mr. Lewis believes deeply that the US (similar to Mr. Lewis) is the most innocent and most defenseless entity in the world. Where did he has got this idea, one wonders… Anyway, facts are of no concern for Mr. James Lewis.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/09/the_awful_truth_the_world_is_at_war.html

    • Replies: @Sean
  213. QNA says:
    @RobinG

    This touchy preoccupation with the 1-dimensional left/right, conservative/liberal spectrum seems somewhat strange. Antiwar people are off on an orthogonal axis and indifferent to the official US government typology, since they are the true political enemies of the state. Anybody who can identify as conservative or liberal has fallen to some extent under the influence of controlled opposition. The only real conflict is the humans against this overreaching state. Everything else is COINTELPRO squabbling.

    You never know who can help. Some people associate with the ultras who find themselves in the US Gestapo. Some might label them conservatives. The government labels them insider threats. Everyone’s disgusted with this government. That’s the thing we always have in common.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  214. Randal says:
    @QNA

    In human rights law, discrimination is a term of art with a more specific meaning. It means denying rights to certain sorts of people.

    No, it doesn’t. It means denying “rights” to people (but in practice mostly only to people in specially protected groups or classes).

    There is no “right” to be respected.
    There is no “right” to be served in a shop.
    There is no “right” to be given a job.
    etc

    There is a right to, if you are an employer, choose for yourself whom to employ on whatever basis you like. There is a right, if you are a businessman, to choose with whom you do business on whatever basis you like. There is a right to choose whom you like and dislike, whom you respect and don’t respect, on whatever basis you like.

    These rights are not necessarily respected in law in the countries of the US sphere (quite the contrary in most cases), but that just reflects that fact that these are not countries that respect rights, or even understand what they are. Rather, laws are passed on supposedly utilitarian grounds, but in reality on the grounds that suit the powerful groups and lobbies that influence the creation of laws. Like you, they mostly apply leftist and identity lobby dogmas to create manufactured “rights” that suit political ends.

    The foundation of modern identity politics is statist divide-and-rule.

    No, the foundation of modern identity politics is democracy and the “squeaky wheel” rule.

    • Replies: @QNA
  215. RobinG says:
    @QNA

    “Anybody who can identify as conservative or liberal has fallen to some extent under the influence of controlled opposition.”

    Well then, you’d better check with your BAP friends about that, because that’s where there at, although they might use a label like progressive, not liberal.

  216. Rogue says:
    @jacques sheete

    Thanks. Appreciate the several responses. Not to say I will necessarily believe what you have to say, but it will be food for thought.

    As a non-American I can only shake my head at the craven lickspittle pandering to the Zionists that goes on amongst US politicians. Beyond farce.

  217. Rogue says:
    @Rurik

    Ok, thanks for the reply. All food for thought – though not necessarily saying I’m going to agree.

    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda. Not that I’m a fan of him – for several reasons I’m not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Rurik
  218. Z-man says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    I was just going to push my agree button…but I’m still holding out a thread of hope, however thin it might be. (Grin)

    PS. Yeah Rand Paul, maybe he got a stronger pair since he got flattened by his nutty neighbor.

  219. Z-man says:
    @RobinG

    Good video, thanks and thanks to the good colonel.

  220. Not to say I will necessarily believe what you have to say, but it will be food for thought.

    Exactly. Question everything. I’m happy if I can stimulate some questioning.

    As a non-American I can only shake my head at the craven lickspittle pandering to the Zionists that goes on amongst US politicians. Beyond farce.

    I am in full agreement and have felt that way for decades. The deeper one digs, the more valid that concept appears.

    I have two more pieces that are gems among gems for those who are curious about the subject.

    Both are from longish articles, but worth every second I think.

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Time
    Mr. Rothbard was an American Jew and an historian of the very highest caliber.

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

    This explains how FDR was culpable for fanning the flames of war. He was much worse than Hitler ever was and not only because the US was never threatened, while Germany was.:

    When Ambassador Potocki was back in Warsaw on leave from his post in Washington, he spoke with Count Jan Szembek, the Polish Foreign Ministry Under-Secretary, about the growing danger of war. In his diary entry of 6 July 1939, Szembek recorded Potocki’s astonishment at the calm mood in Poland. In comparison with the war psychosis that had gripped the West, Poland seemed like a rest home.

    “In the West,” the Ambassador told Szembek, “there are all kinds of elements openly pushing for war: the Jews, the super-capitalists, the arms dealers. Today they are all ready for a great business, because they have found a place which can be set on fire: Danzig; and a nation that is ready to fight: Poland. They want to do business on our backs. They are indifferent to the destruction of our country. Indeed, since everything will have to be rebuilt later on, they can profit from that as well.”[30]

    -Mark Weber, President Roosevelt’s Campaign To Incite War in Europe: The Secret Polish Documents, The Journal of Historical Review, p 137

    http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/4/2/Weber135-172.html

    Your comment about craven lickspittles tells me you’ll find lots of good info to support your intuitions on the matter.Enjoy!

  221. @Rogue

    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda. Not that I’m a fan of him – for several reasons I’m not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.

    Bingo on both counts!

    The propagandists operate on the principle of blaming others for what you’re doing. It’s an old trick but still effective. The effects last for decades if not centuries.

  222. QNA says:
    @Randal

    Now you’re just making shit up. Nobody listens to these Grampa tirades even on Thanksgiving.

    • Troll: Twodees Partain
  223. Randal says:
    @QNA

    Yeah, that’s about what I expected.

  224. @QNA

    Wow, what a truly insightful response.

    • Replies: @Randal
  225. @Miro23

    Marches don’t really accomplish much, especially when the government is as detached from the electorate as is visible today. The marches in GB against the invasion of Iraq were huge but did nothing to stop it. British police have also developed new strategies to disrupt and confound marchers and protesters, such as “kettling” them by boxing them into cramped, confined spaces where there is no access to food or water. Hard to imagine they don’t share tactics. Agent provocateurs have also been used to “turn” the protest violent and allow oppressive measure to be used.

    A general strike is a better solution with people calling in ‘sick’ or going slow on the job. Very slow pedestrians blocking streets and stations so that people can’t get to work on time so business suffers greatly and pressure is brought to bear by those with greater access and influence, business owners.

    Some of the older and simpler methods, like handbills, posters and stencils are effective too and harder to thwart. It won’t be easy and those in control can reduce access to food and other staples so the less well prepared will suffer more than they need to. Things are so bad now that suffering of some sort is inevitable as has always been the case for the common man when nations choose to go to war.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Miro23
  226. Randal says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    All politically correct leftist bluster and no substance to back it up – like I said, about what I expected.

    • Replies: @QNA
  227. Hibernian says:
    @JoaoAlfaiate

    There aren’t to many Irish guys named Jake.

    Cromwell wasn’t just bad for the Irish. He was very bad for the British, too. He was a cathedral vandal and the beneficiary of regicide.

  228. wayfarer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    In my simple world, “universal human rights” have always been entitlements that needed to be earned.

    Yuma Arizona is a U.S.-Mexico border town, and that’s where I live right now. Gun laws here are among the least-restrictive in the United States.

    Which is good because the ratio of police to citizens in Yuma is probably about 1:1000. And not too far from here in Tijuana Mexico the homicide rate is currently about 5 people being murdered each day.

    source: http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/01/09/tijuana-cartel-violence-sets-new-murder-record-2017/

    I gave up praying for safety, about a week after my first confession and holy communion. Always felt “god” had better things to do than spend his time watching out for me.

    Safety is my responsibility, at least that’s the way I’ve always seen it.

    I live in a low-rent trailer park. Hidden in my old fifth-wheel, is an oak axe-handle, a machete, a WWII German K98 bayonet, a large folding knife, a semi-auto handgun with approx. 300 rounds of 9mm ammo, and 4 high-capacity magazines.

    If a stranger in the night enters uninvited, I’m considerate enough to ask questions first. Can’t say that would be the case for other folks in this town, as they’d most likely shoot first and ask any necessary questions, later.

  229. @QNA

    So….you’re not a communist? The rest of your response must be to someone other than me. I never said anything about human rights law or economies. Apparently you’re easily confused and can’t be bothered to scroll up and reread before responding.

    You still sound like a commie to me. Since you didn’t bother to deny it, I’ll just go with my original impression of you.

  230. @RobinG

    You’re talking like Taxi, lol.

    No surprise there – she is one smart lady, and being an American expat in the Levant, has a great eagle perch on that part of the world with unfiltered news. Funny you should mention her – I recently posted something on her site after a long while:

    https://platosguns.com/2018/03/15/say-goodbye-to-america-as-we-know-it/#comment-22427

    Check out #204 f0r SpringAction

    More power to them for doing something! I think I will show up at Lake Merritt on April 15.

    What do you make of QNA posts?

    I haven’t read enough of him/her to form a hard opinion – he/she only has a total of 8 posts on this site. There is a whiff of trolling, but as I said, too few samples to reach a conclusion. I am sure we will know in a few weeks if he/she continues to post here. We have recently seen a plethora of personalities that all ended up being from the same source. You can usually tell by whom they attack.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  231. @RobinG

    I think your question is perfectly legitimate.
    Street marches might put some pressure on the establishment but it will fail to do any real change.
    Here one should consider a holistic approach to defiance, starting with civil desobedience all the way to outright confrontation. As a non American, I cannot preach about the right course to take but I do believe that smart resistance does not entail a major shoutout with the many layers of state security. However, I would only confirm that trying to change the system from within will get you nowhere.
    What I would preach to start making a dent in the matrix of control is to advocate the following:
    - to totally refrain from resorting to credit financing which would deprive the banksters from a major income and thereby impede the effect of Wall Street influence on elections.
    -to revive community living by shutting off the idiocy box and mingling with your neighbours in a real buildup of neighbourly solidarity and true social living.
    - to totally turn a deaf ear to the corporate media.
    - to refuse to engage in any armed conflict that does not entail the defence of America from an imminent threat. Here, I can state that one of my favourite heroes is the late boxing champion Mohamed Ali who flatly refused to serve in Vietnam.
    -to revive the labour unions as a an effective political force that could promote representatives who are totally dedicated to the well being of the working class and who can face up to the destructive practices of big business that is hollowing out America’s industrial capacity.
    -to force the American government to heed the taxpayer’s priorities by asking each citizen to allocate how he or she would like to have their tax dollar spent among the major spending programs.
    -to connect with your immediate neighbors about creating an alternative home schooling to keep control of education of children away from the programming of the a Department of Education.
    - to impose the people’s power by simply refusing to obey the diktats of the establishment especially when the government intrudes on what should be the family domain such as vaccination, political correctness etc…
    These are not all comprehensive ideas, but a few tips that should stir the mind of a true rebel to look for alternatives for the self destructing path of ever bigger defence and welfare spending.
    Overall, America needs leaders who are willing to put their lives on the line in pursuit of real reforms unhindered by the police state. A tall order for sure but not an impossible one. The alternative would be a long term decay that will result in economic collapse followed by a dictatorship akin to what happens in most empires after the point on implosion.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Rurik
  232. @RobinG

    Refreshing video demonstrating Wilkerson’s candor about those in power only speaking candidly about US policies being made in Tel Aviv after they are no longer in power. He demonstrates great wisdom and understanding of the nuances of power and influences in the ME w.r.t. Moscow and Beijing – something lost on the mavericks (and Israeli stooges) that have controlled the lever in the state dept. in the last several decades.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  233. Miro23 says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    It’s like the Rock-Paper-Scissors hand game. Every position has its weakness.

    The Deep State (rock) can control all the elements of power (the administration, media, Congress, academia) by targeting individual dissidents. Individual journalists, academics and Congressmen know the rules and aren’t going to risk their careers.

    The Paper is diffuse public action. Demonstrations, strikes and general mass protest are loss of control from the POV of the Deep State, and very difficult to deal with.

    If their standard technique of targeting individuals doesn’t work, then, at some point they have to engage in violence against large public groups – something that is highly risky from their point of view since; 1) It can’t be hidden and 2) it can spiral out of control.

    Also, as the public starts to familiarize itself with street action, the dynamic builds and is self reinforcing (i.e. it becomes a fashion and a new social norm).

  234. chris says:
    @Rurik

    Trump is a whore, but Pence is a true believer.

    LOL, excellent observation, Rurik!

    When you begin to tally up the caliber of moron which the Jewish filtering process is allowing through the electoral process, people like Halley, Pence here and Williamson, Johnson and May in England, it may be that intelligent people with an ounce of self-respect just refuse to be associated with something like this. What’s left is morons and, like you say, whores.

    • Agree: Rurik
  235. Chris took account, wrote: “What’s left is morons and, like you say, whores.”

    Ideally, Donald Trump will be remembered as an insidious “BAIT & SWITCH” Master-practitioner.

    Bait: Stabilize Russian relationship, non-interventionist, rebuild US infrastructure, enforce immigration law, etcetera, ad nauseam.

    Switch: Refer to John Derbyshire’s informative new article at U.R.

    To their own sad demise, “whores” appetites are unsatiable. Donald Trump’s appetite to serve Israel is gluttonous and for the time being, it is “the gift” to Adelson & Netanyahu that “keeps on giving,” and of course to him$elf.

    Thanks.

  236. @Cloak And Dagger

    You can usually tell by whom they attack.

    Another tip-off is how they attack. They spout inanities as veracities.

  237. @Joe Levantine

    Some good ideas there. I don’t pretend to have the answers but I do as little as possible to support the system and challenge anyone with questions if they parrot the standard propaganda.

    I especially advocate staying out of debt and living below ones’ means, but our masters have every base covered. For instance, even if one avoids personal debt, they have ways of loading us with public debt and if we live below our means, they force us to buy stuff that we don’t need and never wanted.

    It’s a sick system and one that has to be resisted without resting. I wish I had better answers!

  238. Hi All, including adversaries,

    Below is article on US offensive “defense” tax dollars at work, including photo display which our Zio Corporate Media tactfully ignores.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/26/556536/Syria-eastern-Ghouta

  239. QNA says:
    @Randal

    Michael Jackson doubtless had a fulsomely-articulated explanation why statutory rape law doesn’t mean what it says. That doesn’t mean I have to take him seriously.

    Feel free to look at what you’re trying to talk about and explain why it doesn’t mean what it says.

    Your state and federal common law:

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Documents/UDHR_Translations/eng.pdf

    and, supreme law of the land equivalent to federal statute, which with domestic law at all levels must come into compliance:

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CCPR.aspx

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CERD.aspx

    • Replies: @Randal
  240. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Baker was more energetic and didn’t have to deal with a degraded bunch of aggressive school children. Going back in time from 9/11 usually reveals a much more polished form of Imperialism. The fundamentalist offspring – long marinated in domestic criminal business – brought forth their best efforts to set the world ablaze following the September operation.

    Tillerson is a greasy CEO but with manners, nothing prepared him for the bullying of the mob children of the Trump administration and their enabling keepers in the military.

  241. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    To understand the character of an illiterate, sex obsessed, corrupt pathological liar, as a ‘president’, then read the following:

    [Consequently, many people have concluded that the current occupant of the White House is not mature enough and not competent enough to be president of the United States. In his book, ‘Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House’, author Michael Wolff writes that “Trump lived… as a real-life fictional character”, that he is a man detached and mostly cut off from reality, being comfortable in relying on so-called false and subjective “alternative facts”. For such a person, only appearances matter, not reality.

    People who know him well have labeled him unpredictable and inconsistent. Trump is the flip-flopper par excellence. Indeed, Trump’s intellectual inconsistency is beyond comprehension. He can adopt, almost simultaneously, two opposite positions without flinching… and without apology.

    And, as if this is not enough, Donald Trump is also besieged by huge conflicts of interest, not the least is a level of nepotism not seen in the White House in modern times.

    Let us try to get a more complete picture of the political situation in the United States:

    1- Trump acts and speaks like a sociopath who enjoys making other people miserable
    2. Trump is egocentric and authoritarian
    3- Trump is a compulsive liar
    4- Trump is a dangerous man to have control over nuclear arms
    5- Trump can be expected to rely on “wag the dog” tricks to get out of trouble

    Keeping in mind what I wrote in the introduction and the rational motives that motivate his supporters to be behind him, it nevertheless remains that Donald Trump is an emperor with no clothes, and a reliance on cognitive dissonance on the part of his partisans cannot hide that simple fact.It’s a safe bet that credible steps for his impeachment as U.S. President.]

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/donald-trump-is-he-too-dangerous-to-be-head-of-state/5633388

  242. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Women Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    Women’s Peace March on the Pentagon

    Think Peace!

    Art

    • Replies: @RobinG
  243. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    “what it says is that the people who voted for Trump are moral…”

    You are delusional. Trump is the epitome of immorality. It is laughable that some of Trump’s supporters overlook his obvious character flaws. You are no different than the Joos you rail on for protecting “their own kind”.

    “Just like Americans rejected the war when they voted for Wilson, and he promised to keep us out of the war. But the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery.”

    No, it didn’t happen like that. More complicated than what you make it out to be.

    “Americans rejected the war when they voted for FDR, when he promised to keep us out of the zio-WWII- but the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery.”

    No, it didn’t happen like that. More complicated than what you make it out to be.

    “and we rejected the satanic zio-wars in the Middle East, when we elected Trump, and he promised to end the evil being done in our name, but the zio-scum are dragging us in, though treachery, as usual”.

    No, it didn’t happen like that. More complicated than what you make it out to be.

    “but, even with all of that, it’s still ragingly obvious that even as Trump is betraying all of us Deplorables, and betraying the decent people of the planet, who held so much hope in him, as he’s succumbing to the zio-treachery of The Fiend”

    Newsflash–he was ALWAYS going to “succumb to the Fiend”. How you didn’t notice it from the start has your knickers in a twist because you were duped.

    “still, STILL – he is gazillion to the ~nth power, better in every way over the war hag.”

    Again, more delusion on your part, not that Shitlery was any better.

    “for one, if the American electorate would have voted for the war sow, then that would mean that we are truly irredeemable, and unapologetic for the unprecedented evils the zio-American government has been perpetrating all over the globe.”

    All your lies are belong to us.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  244. Rurik says:
    @Rogue

    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda.

    it all has continuity, going back to Rothschild at Waterloo and before- to Babylon and the invention of paper money.

    Not that I’m a fan of him – for several reasons I’m not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.

    Hubris and racial arrogance did Hitler and Germany in.

    Just think if instead of all that rhetoric about Germans and the Aryan/Nordic race as exceptional, he instead reached out to the Slavs, and spoke of them as brothers under assault from the same force (Bolshevism/Zionism) that menaced Germany and beyond. Perhaps he could have rallied the Slavs as allies, and routed the Fiend with little effort. The Slavic peoples (Russians, Cossacks, Poles, others..) were just as brutalized and victimized by the Jewish supremacist Bolsheviks as anyone else, more so even.

    Just imagine if Hitler would have embraced them as brothers, rather than denigrating them, it all could have turned out differently.

    but my main point is that this is all of one cause. From the Treaty of Versailles to WWII, to the war on Iraq and the pending war on Iran. These are not separate occurrences, as they’d have us all believe, they’re all tied together. All part of the creeping hegemony and Orwellian dystopia the tribe is working towards, relentlessly, imperceptibly, and with a vicious (netherworld even) monomaniacal imperative.

    Yesterday it was Nazi Germany, today it is Western civilization they have slated for murder and genocide. If the West doesn’t muster the wherewithal to resist these demons, (and end the Fed!)..

    ..then what happened to Germany after the war was “won”, will be the fate of our grandchildren – Aryan, Nordic, Russian, Slav and all others whom the Jewish supremacists consider affronts to their insane and hysterical narrative as ‘the chosen’. As long as there’s a tall, proud pretty blond woman out there, with intelligent eyes – it will drive them apoplectic with envy. How can they be God’s special little pets, (the only ones with souls, the only ones who matter!), if God also created these white Christian types, so beautiful and strong, who create these magnificent civilizations?

    If the tribe can simply destroy these people, under a tsunami of immigrants, and see them flooded into a morass disconnected consumers, lacking any collective heritage or ethos, then they can rewrite history minus the inconvenient parts like Rome, or the Renaissance, with the chosen as the only people of note, who created all things good and noble. Blah, blah, blah.

    Sorry, ranting a bit, as is my unfortunate wont.

    As we bear witness to the lies ((they)) tell hourly, and always with the agenda of war and the demonization and destruction of their enemy du jour, how can we not conclude that the ((same people)) telling the lies today, weren’t the same people telling the same devil’s lies during the lead up to WWII?

    Didn’t they lie about the Holodomor?

    Didn’t they lie about Stalin’s ambitions to enslave the planet, as was demonstrated at the end of the war, when half of Europe was turned over to his tender mercies?

    Didn’t they lie about Katyn?

    Didn’t they lie about everything, always? In fact, if they’re talking (western media, western politicians, western academics) isn’t it a certainty that they’re lying?!

    So now that the exact same people are lying us all into eternal wars for Israel, as we all watch with alarm and sadness and horror how nation after nation are being destroyed, and millions upon millions of lives are ended or driven to despair…

    all of it

    ALL OF IT!

    are nothing more than a continuation of their same satanic imperative to enslave the planet that menaced Germany in the last century.

    So all I’m saying is, I wasn’t there when the world was driven to the brink of war (and over) in the 1930s. When great men like Lindberg were trying to warn them.

    But I’m here now, and I see all the same financial treachery vis-a-vis the Fed, that Bernanke even admitted was responsible for the Great Depression in the 1930s

    I see the same cultural and spiritual sewage being injected into America’s children, as happened during the Weimar regime, when the starving children of Germany were used as amusements to the world’s depraved sexual predators.

    I see the same corruption of America’s institutions, and the denigration of its heritage as evil and vile, just as they humiliated Germans and Germany’s heritage, when they dominated it in absolute terms, just as they dominate the West’s institutions today, using as always their God damned Fed- to supply literally unlimited lucre towards their nefarious ends.

    Nothing has changed, and nothing will change unless we can take away their counterfeiting machine, that allowed them to corrupt everything.

    No one is allowed to audit the Federal Reserve Bank. No one has power over it, not the president, not the congress, not the EU or the UN.

    The (((Federal Reserve Bank))) is the only power on earth that is above all earthy sovereignty. Having corrupted even the Vatican, and turned it too into a house of iniquity and rampant pedophilia/anti-Western hatred.

    If we can’t rein in the Fed, then get used to more Eternal Wars (for Israel) and cultural and spiritual death for your children and grandchildren, as they will curse us in our graves for what we’ve condemned them to, out of our cowardice and apathy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  245. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    “what it says is that the people who voted for Trump are moral…”

    You are delusional. Trump is the epitome of immorality.

    we don’t care if some gold-digger wanted him to grab her pussy, or even if he obliged on occasion

    what we do care about are the evil and immoral Eternal Wars for Israel, that are destroying millions of people’s lives and driving the planet to the brink of world war, and a redux of the horrors of the (((20th centuries’ wars)))

    if the guy who promised to save the planet from such a fate, also romped with porn stars, it’s really of no consequence. I would vote for Stormy Daniels for president if I believed she was the one who could end the zio-wars.

    “for one, if the American electorate would have voted for the war sow, then that would mean that we are truly irredeemable, and unapologetic for the unprecedented evils the zio-American government has been perpetrating all over the globe.”

    All your lies are belong to us.

    what lies Corvy?

    I’ve written almost a million words here at Unz, if you’re going to accuse me of lying, then provide the evidence, or fuck off.

    • Agree: RobinG
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  246. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    I gave Putin the benefit of the doubt the first time, when FSB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London exile publicly claimed he had video proof that Putin is a child molester, and was shortly thereafter was murdered with polonium-210 (a ridiculous excess of it).

    However now Skirpal, another FSB turncoat, has been poisoned in England (using a very meager amount of Russian nerve gas). I have to conclude Putin must take FSB men’s treachery very personally, and have authorised Skirpal’s assassination.

    That there is some Fourth Protocol type faction in the Russian (or British secret services) or with &access to the nerve gas (as now being floated by Moscow loyalists is very unlikely.

    The stellar career of Alexei Ulyukaev shows that Putin rewards absolute loyalty from his small circle of ex KGB advisers, and I think they did not dare give him honest advice when this assassination was contemplated. They maybe went along or even suggested it because they wanted to please their boss and be appointed to a good job at a oil company. Ulyukaev is a bit of a hothead, demolishing a $100 million house because the wife he was building it for ran away with an Italian racing driver. Russia is ill-served by these cowboy characters around Putin, he should start paying attention to career diplomats, who have no objection to lying as long as it does not come back to bite the country on the arse. Russia does not now have a consulate in Seattle, where is the benefit in that?

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Randal
  247. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    I agree with Jacque here Joe, that you’ve compiled a great list.

    I suspect that much of that wise counsel is just as important to a person’s well-being as it is to effecting change.

    Overall, America needs leaders who are willing to put their lives on the line in pursuit of real reforms unhindered by the police state. A tall order for sure but not an impossible one.

    I would add that if we haven’t given up hope yet, and would like to fight the Fiend, then we should do that (((they)))) do, and give grass-roots support to politicians who are willing to do just that.

    Paul Ryan is a zio-cuck, willing to betray any and every tenet of decency to serve his master, (((Sheldon Adelson, et al))), including of course his ‘sacred oath’, which for a treasonous cuck like Ryan, is as sacred as dog vomit. Even less so.

    A “soulless globalist from the Democrat wing of the Uni-Party.”

    That quote is from Paul Nehlen, who’s running against Ryan.

    this from his website

    http://www.electnehlen.com/news/

    if we want to resist the evils that our government is perpetrating, both globally with their zio-wars, and domestically with their hate-agenda, then we should support guys like Nehlen.

    That’s what the tribe do relentlessly, they target politicians who refuse to gush over all things Israel.

    Speak one sympathetic word about the Palestinians, and across the entire length and breath of this planet, they will coalesce as one, and use their power of the purse, and media, courts and everything they’ve got to bring to bear against that person.

    As James Traficant [RIP}, and Cynthia McKinney can attest, they’re vicious and resolute, and if we’re going to oppose them, we have to learn to be the same. Perhaps not the vicious part, as it’s not in our nature, but the resolute part, and the especially the coalesce part.

    I don’t know Mr. Nehlen, or if he’s a man of integrity or not, but the way he’s embracing honorable and brave men like Kevin McDonald, is a sign that this guy has the balls to take on these bastards directly, and a loss for cuck-Ryan would send chills down the congressional hall of whores, that might even be a crack in ((their)) iron grip of power over our congress.

    If so, the entire world’s people of good will should support Nehlen. As a repudiation of that nest of war criminals and traitors, that threaten the entire planet with their craven, abject, TOTAL fealty to all things zion. (The Fiend)

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @RobinG
  248. Randal says:
    @QNA

    My point was directed at the notion of rights that “human rights law” protects, as was clear from my comment.

    Going back to the original exchange, the legal use of discrimination as a term of art is part of the very problem I originally drew attention to, since it is merely a social engineering technique used by identity lobbyists, based upon the lies that create the spurious “rights” I referenced. Identity lobbyists seek to use these “rights” and the laws based upon them to coerce the wider population to cease using the vital tool that is discrimination, in order (supposedly) to benefit the members of their own lobby, and thereby enhance their own status.

    Hence “antidiscrimination” is precisely part (and a big part, as regards their enforcement methods) of the problem of identity politics you claim to decry. In the UK, for instance, “antidiscrimination” has been used to effectively destroy major institutions and rebuild them in forms more congenial to the identity lobbyists, and is used every day to push censorship and speech controls to suppress dissent against the identity lobbyists’ agendas.

    • Replies: @QNA
  249. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    Sean, you do not trust Mr. James Lewis anymore? – Quelle surprise!
    This time you went Stormy Daniels, jugular, with your favorite gossips. Perhaps there are too many tabloids in your spare time, Sean?
    Sean: “I have to conclude Putin must take FSB men’s treachery very personally, and have authorised Skirpal’s assassination.”
    – Who are you? What kind of expertise in chemistry, specifically nerve gas do you have? Have you heard about habeas corpus? — No? That would be too much learning for you?

    http://thesaker.is/a-curious-incident-part-iv/

    Methods of Detection
    There are two primary methods of detecting a chemical agent. The first method is to locate chemical residue from the attack such as the VX of a type developed by the UK found contaminating the clothing of one of the Kim Jong-Un attackers.
    This trace evidence is then subject to CGMS analysis which produces a “signature” or “fingerprint” of the agent used. Once this is obtained it may be matched against a database of known chemical agents to determine its provenance.
    Problems may arise. VX and other organophosphates are subject to degradation. Weather conditions may accelerate this degradation. VX is a persistent agent meaning it is intended to remain active for a period of 2 to 3 days after application. Other nerve agents are much more volatile and will evaporate, or degrade, within a period of hours. High volatility may be of military significance as it permits a nerve agent attack on a position that your own troops can then storm and occupy with limited risk of exposure to any residual nerve agent.
    Another fingerprint problem arises. The FOLIATE program agents were only produced in the amounts required for research. Mirzayanov, and others, report the destruction of these research stocks via incineration around the time of the disintegration of the Soviet Union. If the research materials were destroyed then there would be no sample available for fingerprinting.
    Nerve agents degrade over time at approximately 2% a year with this rate of degradation accelerating as the decomposition by-products accumulate. So even if a sample of Soviet agent from 1988 was obtained, the chemical signature may be inaccurate, incomplete, or incorrect. How then can May be so definite about the nerve agent used in the Skripal attack?
    As Uglev reports, the FOLIANT research resulted in the creation of hundreds of toxic agents and derivatives of those agents. Most had no military value and were therefore discarded. So how can May be so definite about the nerve agent used against Skripal?

    Theresa May and the Dodgy Statement to Parliament
    On March 14th, the Times published a letter from Stephen Davies, Consultant in emergency medicine with the Salisbury NHS Foundation Trust. Davies asserted “no patients have experienced symptoms of nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury” and directly contradicted the assertion the Prime Minister made to the House of Commons.
    Davies is a clinician directly involved in the treatment of the 3 poisoning victims. These three are understood to be Sergei and Yulia Skripal and Detective Bailey. As a physician, Davies has a duty of care imposed upon him in law. This duty requires him to at all time act in the best interests of a patient under his care.
    If you deliver medical treatment, you have the responsibility to ensure the injury diagnosis is correct, that the treatment delivered is appropriate to the diagnosis, and that you do no harm to your patient.
    On Monday, May tells the world the poison was a nerve agent.
    On Wednesday, the treating physician publicly states: “no patients have experienced symptoms of nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury.”
    How is it possible for May to know more than the treating physician?

    Further Conjecture
    The ideal toxic agent would be highly volatile in addition to being fast acting. Target knock down occurs within seconds of toxin application as opposed to the minutes available under a VX attack. This high degree of volatility means the excess agent would immediately begin to degrade and disperse, eliminating any trace evidence of the applied toxin. The intent is to ensure the knockdown and immediate incapacitation of the target, with a lessened possibility of secondary collateral attacks such as affected first responder Detective Bailey. It is likely some of the persons who first responded to the scene were confederates to the attackers, persons with the responsibility to clean up the incident site, prevent injury to others, and ensure any residual trace evidence was wiped away, or otherwise neutralized. These good Samaritans vanished and have never been interviewed by the Guardian, or the BBC, or any other major “news” outlet. Which is a little surprising considering the British press is known to pay top dollar for stories which can be headlined “I was present at the opening shot of WWIII.”
    And Theresa May knows exactly the toxic agent utilized in the attack.
    What else does she know?
    And why does no one ask her the question?
    How does she know what she claims to know?
    In memory of David Christopher Kelly, CMG (14 May 1944 – 17 July 2003)”

    • Replies: @Sean
  250. Randal says:
    @Sean

    I gave Putin the benefit of the doubt the first time

    LOL! That seems unlikely, frankly.

    However now Skirpal, another FSB turncoat, has been poisoned in England (using a very meager amount of Russian nerve gas). I have to conclude Putin must take FSB men’s treachery very personally, and have authorised Skirpal’s assassination.

    Litvinenko and Skripal, as you well know, have virtually nothing in common beyond being Russians living in England.

    Skripal is a former spy who was unmasked by the Russians, tried, convicted and imprisoned (for the rather brief sentence of 13 years) and then exchanged. The Russians have no track record of killing such people, and indeed doing so would be foolish and counterproductive, given they presumably intend to continue exchanging spies. The final nail in the coffin of any stupid ideas that the Russians had any habit of attacking such people is the bare fact that British intelligence saw no reason to give him any protection, and neither did he feel the need for any protection – he lived openly under his own name, with his address in the public record.

    Litvinenko, on the other hand, was a former KGB/FSB thug who found himself on the wrong side of a power struggle in Russia and fled justice to Britain, operating there as an active enemy of Russia’s government. It’s at least plausible that there could be a motive for the Russians in killing him (though why we should care much if they did is another matter), but in reality there is very little evidence to support such a charge in any case.

    But the fact is that Litvinenko and Skripal are chalk and cheese. You knew that, of course (because I’ve pointed it all out to you before now).

    • Replies: @Sean
  251. annamaria says:

    More about the strange case of Theresa May and the UK poodling government: https://www.globalresearch.ca/two-criminal-accusations-against-russia-the-skripal-affair-and-flight-mh-17/5633367
    “It is a scientific impossibility for Porton Down to have been able to test for Russian novichoks if they have never possessed a Russian sample to compare them to… If Porton Down can synthesise it, so can many others, not just the Russians.” – Former Ambassador Craig Murray (March 14, 2018)

  252. QNA says:
    @Randal

    Words, words, words. Knew you couldn’t bring yourself to look at the law you want to lecture me about.

    Cracks me up. People don’t know their rights and they’re proud of it, they think their legal rights are crap – then they wonder why their government constantly screws them and pushes them around like helpless worms.

    • Replies: @Randal
  253. Randal says:
    @QNA

    Words, words, words.

    Sorry if it is a bit challenging for you. (I’m not really).

    Cracks me up. People don’t know their rights and they’re proud of it, they think their legal rights are crap – then they wonder why their government constantly screws them and pushes them around like helpless worms.

    You seem to have a hopeless confusion between laws and rights. I suspect you need to go back to basics, though that assumes you are being honest and aren’t just another cynical apologist for politically correct anti-white racism dressed up as “antidiscrimination”.

    • Replies: @QNA
  254. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    Our country, our rules as to what we deem sufficient evidence. We are past caring what Putin says about Russia being innocent of these two very similar assassinations. If he wants to go tit for tat, so be it. The representatives of a country who use diplomatic immunity to behave like that that will not be missed. There is nary a person in prison who does not claim to be innocent, but that does not get you out of it.

    • Troll: RobinG
  255. Sean says:
    @Randal

    A video from 2010 appears to show Putin issuing a death threat to “traitors”.

    Skripal and his daughter brain damaged, Litvinenko dead. Both traitors.

    I see what you are getting at, incredibly obvious isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Randal
  256. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    So watcha gonna do about it? Puff some more?

    You could always take a lesson from your predecessors.

    • Replies: @Sean
  257. @Sean

    Sean, you personify perfectly the idea that Brits are all either sheep or snakes. Soon enough, your shitty little country will become a pariah among nations, mostly due to the government actions you defend here in your insufferably dimwitted way.

    • Agree: L.K
  258. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    Litvinenko traveled to Israel a few times before his death.

  259. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    After that could be “end of major hostilities, pulling out, peace negotiations, blah…blah…”.
    Sounds familiar?

    Like the negotiations going on in NK ?
    No , no negotiation but an armistice One hopes Iranian remember and do what needs to be done same day the war breaks out and 100 years after and all the time in between . Destruction should be served to US in more than one format . Don’t cry “terrorism ” or blame ” 7th century ideology “

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  260. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    “The outcome of the president’s policy review should be to determine that the Ayatollah Khomeini’s 1979 revolution will not last until its 40th birthday,” Bolton said. (The 40th anniversary of the Iranian revolution will be on February 11, 2019.)

    The Intercept

    Son of a bitch has angered everybody excepting his paymaster- Israel Iran should offer him a few more shekel

  261. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    “we don’t care if some gold-digger wanted him to grab her pussy, or even if he obliged on occasion”

    Those who are degenerates do not care. But those who are moral, or are Christian, assuredly are concerned about such matters.

    “what we do care about are the evil and immoral Eternal Wars for Israel, that are destroying millions of people’s lives and driving the planet to the brink of world war…”

    Not facts, but merely opinion.

    “if the guy who promised to save the planet from such a fate, also romped with porn stars, it’s really of no consequence.”

    You do realize Trump “romps” with Jews, right? Has them in his own cabinet and as advisors. Furthermore, he made a campaign pledge, not a promise. It was a thing he said to get votes, and not something he was compelled to go on a crusade on. You’ve been duped by a showman.

    “I’ve written almost a million words here at Unz, if you’re going to accuse me of lying, then provide the evidence, or fuck off.”

    Your insistence that there is a Zionist conspiracy is predicated on half-truths, overgeneralizations, and confirmation bias. The problem is that even if I offer a modicum of proof to counter your assertions, you are simply not intellectually capable of addressing it without resorting to “Joo lies” or “Zionist cuck” or any other descriptions you can think of. Would you HONESTLY take into account that you may be actually hysterical when it comes to this Joo conspiracy and their diversity-inspired toadies?

    For example, your statement “ALL OF IT! are nothing more than a continuation of their same satanic imperative to enslave the planet that menaced Germany in the last century” is nothing more than a loud opinion. Any narrative to the contrary is absolutely acceptable to you.

    Besides, all you do is talk. If you are that serious about defeating Zionist Jews, take decided action. But I get it, you are physically impotent, so you would rather smash down some words on a keyboard.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Rurik
  262. @Rurik

    Hey Rurik,
    “…they’re vicious and resolute, and if we’re going to oppose them, we have to learn to be the same. Perhaps not the vicious part, as it’s not in our nature, but the resolute part, and the especially the coalesce part.”
    Here lies the dilemma for decent people who have empathy. Our humanity is what keeps us from handing them the knockout blow. For someone like you and me whose hearts yearn for justice, it would help our cause to bypass the natural goodness in us as the fiend views compassion and decency as a sign of weakness. Just notice all the diplomatic responses of Western governments to Putin’s attempt to get them to reason by invoking international laws. It does look like things will have to reach a bloody climax before we could ever hope to put the fiend in the garbage can of history.

  263. QNA says:
    @Randal

    Why you so scared of anti-white racism anyway? Some quota squeezed you out of a Ivy League spot?

    Ha ha just kidding, we know that’s not it.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @Daniel Chieh
  264. Randal says:
    @Sean

    A video from 2010 appears to show Putin issuing a death threat to “traitors”.

    “Appears” is putting it strongly. “Is misrepresented” would be more accurate, much as an Iranian declaration that the Zionist regime will vanish from the pages of history was misrepresented as a threat to attack Israel.

    The misrepresentation of Putin’s words was dealt with at some length here

    While commenter for-the-record posted a nice “gotcha” on this issue a couple of days ago:

    From The Telegraph in 2010

    Vladimir Putin: Russian secret services don’t kill traitors

    The “swine” who exposed the 10 Russian sleeper spies in the United States will not be tracked down and killed, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Thursday, saying Russia has abandoned the Soviet-era practice of killing turncoats. . .

    Russia’s special services don’t do that,” he said during a televised call-in show. “As for the traitors, they will croak all by themselves. Whatever equivalent of 30 pieces of silver they get, it will get stuck in their throats.”

    From The Telegraph (March 2018) reporting on the same interview:

    Traitors will kick the bucket’: Vladimir Putin swore revenge on poisoned Russian spy Sergei Skripal

    Vladimir Putin vowed to kill the Russian double agent who was poisoned on British soil and has been left fighting for his life.

    President Putin issued the death threat that “traitors will kick the bucket” as Colonel Sergei Skripal, who was convicted of working for MI6, was being sent to the UK in a spy exchange.

    • Replies: @Sean
  265. edNels says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    To the question:

    How many factories do you expect will be built and staffed as a result of those tariffs?

    Not any… authentic factories, (might be some Potemkin ruses though).
    The time for tariffs was long past, before the hundreds of plants and factories in US were crated up to rail roads to ships to offshore.
    What was a good idea once but not now. In fact it might be an example of senility and Cognitive Dissonance.
    The result of tariffs at this late stage is probably to sweep up remaining US small fry fabricators who depend on the steel now available. (more corporate consolidation IOW’s.) Increased imports of Ersatz replacement junk to complete uS dependency and loss of any self sufficiency for the eventual final solution.
    What happens When the shoddy goods that replaced quality all fail simultaneously, no way to replace, then what?

    THanks for the interesting lecture on China and real issues. Sure brings up the level of the thread!

  266. Randal says:
    @QNA

    Asking an indigenous inhabitant of a European or North American country why he dislikes the propaganda being used to justify and enable the ongoing destruction of his own culture, society and nation is pretty fatuous.

    The more significant question is why you seek to promote anti-white racism. Are you just a non-white racist, or are you a collaborator? (What the rougher sections of this community refer to as “a cuck”.)

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @Corvinus
  267. @geokat62

    1. I couldn’t organize a sock drawer.

    2. Iirc I said If Cindy McKinney went South, Pat Lang would go North. I believe that to be reality. A few days ago Lang commented about his deep disdain for Larry Wilkerson: he said Wilkerson knew full well his boss, Colin Powell, was being set up but he did nothing to interrupt the process. Thus, it’s not likely Lang would participate with Wilkerson in an anti war event.

    3. I recall that geokat62 composed a Declaration of Independence from the Lobby. It might be a good idea to put that on the table again for this body of commenters to see, think about, spread around.

    4. I admire and have supported Alison Weir’s method and persistence (and believe them to be more effective than street protest):
    a. Put together a solid body of information, i.e. a book like “Against Our Better Judgment,” then
    b. speak about the book at every conceivable opportunity.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  268. @Corvinus

    Those who are degenerates do not care. But those who are moral, or are Christian, assuredly are concerned about such matters.

    rotflmao

    Just keep killing them Palestinians and Eyerainians.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  269. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    Nothing much will happen with Russia, except a few sanctions. Putin seems quite happy for the West to turn away, and deep down that might have been his objective.

  270. Sean says:
    @Randal

    President Putin issued the death threat that “traitors will kick the bucket” as Colonel Sergei Skripal, who was convicted of working for MI6, was being sent to the UK in a spy exchange.

    Excuse me, but quoting Putin publicly saying that Skirpal’s days were numbered is not the most persuasive evidence for Putin being innocent. You think Putin would not have said that if he intended to have Skirpal killed, as if Putin cared what Britain does. Though that prediction of his demise was not taken seriously by MI5 or Skirpal himself, I think any reasonable person would agree it now appears in a rather different light, being the sort of thing that indicates a very definite animus toward Skirpal on the part of Putin. And like I keep saying, Putin may have a long term goal of forcing the West to recoil from Russia. Unparalleled motive, means, opportunity and made veiled threats. Certainly sounds like a case to answer (you are excused further jury duty).

    • Replies: @Randal
  271. peterAUS says:
    @anon

    Like the negotiations going on in NK ?

    Ummm…..negotiations after the armed forces of the opponent got considerably weakened with major systems mostly destroyed. Especially anti-air defense.
    More importantly, after the opponent’s infrastructure has been seriously damaged.
    Regimes of such countries are, say, more willing to negotiate.

    One hopes Iranian remember and do what needs to be done same day the war breaks out…

    Such as?

    Destruction should be served to US in more than one format . Don’t cry “terrorism ” or blame ” 7th century ideology “

    A very good idea.
    I am sure that will put a damp on the Administration. Or make American masses willing to put a pressure on the Administration. Like 9/11 for example.
    Yeah….
    So, when Americans really unleash hell on all civilian infrastructure don’t cry “imperialism” or whatever.

    This is just Internet blabbing, online therapy and such, so looking forward to similar comments.

    That tiny minority here still on “common sense” path will, maybe, remember how it worked with Yugoslavia.
    Those had all the means to do proper SF incursions into Albania, even Italy and do some serious damage there to the attacker. Not terrorist stuff but real SF stuff. They didn’t.
    I don’t think Milosevic and his Secret Service and top military guys were stupid or cowards.
    Their SF guys weren’t cowards and knew a thing of two. And still they didn’t.
    Ask yourself why……….

    • Replies: @anon
  272. Randal says:
    @Sean

    Excuse me, but quoting Putin publicly saying that Skirpal’s days were numbered is not the most persuasive evidence for Putin being innocent.

    The point is to refute the lie you told about him “issuing a death threat”.

    Job done. How you respond is down to your own personal integrity.

    • Replies: @Sean
  273. @QNA

    What the hell is your major malfunction?

  274. Corvinus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “Just keep killing them Palestinians and Eyerainians.”

    We are not talking about these two groups. We are discussing how “moral people” such as Rurik have an apparent disregard for the conduct of their “God-Emperor” so long as it fits a particular agenda.

    How is Rurik any different from the Joos or the Darkies in this vein?

  275. tac says:

    Is the veil finally coming off so that Trump is exposed for all to see his true nature. Given the fact that he is surrounding himself with a neocon war cabinet as well as one that is Jewcentric one cannot help but ask the obvious: could it be that Trump is a Jew or crypto-Jew? Glance at this article–which traces his childhood through adult life, and it clearly demonstrates a behavior that can only be described as philo-Jewish:

    [MORE]

    Trump was quoted saying: “The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day

    Does it matter that Trump’s ego wall in his office on the 26th floor of Trump Tower devotes much of its most prominent space to awards, plaques and photos from Jewish and pro-Israel groups? On one day, Trump seems like the best thing to happen to American Jews—the “first Jewish president” as some supporters like to call him—a solid supporter of Israel who has surrounded himself with Jews, both at the Trump Organization and now in the White House

    Shmuley Boteach, the New Jersey rabbi and best-selling author, says Trump is actually a philo-Semite, with a lifelong history of surrounding himself with Jewish executives, employees and social acquaintances, as well as a strong record of support for Jewish causes and for Israel.

    Trump told friends that he’d figured out his future—he wanted to be the next Bill Zeckendorf, one of Manhattan’s most successful developers and a major contributor to Jewish charities.

    Fred [Trump] made such a habit of donating to Jewish charities—he served as treasurer for an early Israel benefit concert at Ebbets Field—that many Jews assumed he was part of the tribe himself. (At Trump Village, where several members of my grandmother’s family lived, it was taken as gospel that the Trumps were secretly Jewish.

    From early on, the Trumps showed a preference for renting to Jews. In the early 1970s, when the family was managing thousands of apartments, a Trump rental agent told federal investigators that the company sought to rent only to “Jews and executives.” Another agent recalled in a court filing that “Trump Management believes that Jewish tenants are the best tenants.”

    https://www.momentmag.com/growing-up-trump/

    • Replies: @Anon
  276. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    Hey Rurik,

    Perhaps you didn’t notice that this whole exchange began with this comment from Joe L. –

    “Casting ballots is for suckers.” [Quoting Jack Shit]
    Awesome reality stated in such a little sentence.

    If he hadn’t written that [unqualified] remark, I never would have questioned him. Joe didn’t say, “Just voting isn’t enough,” or “Investing all your hope in a political campaign is for suckers.” Nope. He just endorsed Jack’s, “Voting is for suckers.” Several other commenters, IMO stupidly non-productive, have derided voting. So, don’t vote…. Then what?

    Your statement, “….if we haven’t given up hope yet, and would like to fight the Fiend, then we should do that (((they)))) do, and give grass-roots support to politicians who are willing to do just that,” makes me think that you haven’t given up all hope, and that you believe candidates and politics are a valid part of a bigger strategy.

    S2C expressed admiration for Alison Weir, and suggests we write books and go on speaking tours. ;) Then S2 demeans marches and rallies. IMO, all fronts must be covered in this war. Alison also speaks at rallies, puts up billboards, does radio interviews, etc. However, we could really use some new ideas.

    Joe L. did, indeed, give a good summary of organizing methods, but they were same old, same old. (People who’ve done it, know that.) And I’m a little surprised that none of the haters here pounced on him for mentioning unions. The core peace activists are plodding away at this. In the time since George flew down to DC and decided work on LFTL had to wait 4 more years, these plodders have been building their bases.

    My hope was to build bridges between anti-war advocates from both left and right, but I’ve just given up on wasting more energy on that. Cindy Sheehan has gotten no response from Antiwar.com about endorsing the Women’s March on the Pentagon, and S2C’s report of Pat Lang’s remarks toward Larry Wilkerson kind of puts a nail in it. Anyway, there’s much more potential in the drifting center than there is on the right.

    QNA is just a weirdo, coming on all erudite, a real FKA, then claiming to have never met a Communist. Please! They’re all over the place. Go down to your nearest PSL office if you need a heavy dose.

    With so many horrible things happening at once, it’s hard to do triage, but opposing the Podesta nomination seems to be the hottest issue of the moment. That, and not letting the defeated Yemen Resolution slide into the memory hole. How can we defeat Podesta? Pressure on the Senate. Unless you [Joe and Jack] have a ton of money, all we’ve got is the threat of our votes. Why give that up?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  277. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    3. I recall that geokat62 composed a Declaration of Independence from the Lobby. It might be a good idea to put that on the table again for this body of commenters to see, think about, spread around.

    Good idea.

  278. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    “we don’t care if some gold-digger wanted him to grab her pussy, or even if he obliged on occasion”

    Those who are degenerates do not care. But those who are moral, or are Christian, assuredly are concerned about such matters.

    Christian like George Bush?

    Like “reverend” Hagee?

    Like those pedophile priests and the Vatican that enables them?

    I don’t equate morality to religion, or vice versa Corvy. My dog has more honor and morality in his poop, than all the evangelicals demanding more dead Palestinians, have in their “Christian” souls.

    And I’d take an atheist all day long, who’d rule with honor and compassion, dignity and integrity, than all the religious leaders on the planet, who’d make a deal with the devil himself, for earthy rewards.

    Find me a honest Christian, who loves Christ and truth, integrity and honor, as much as they love lucre and fame, and perhaps we can talk. Until then, I couldn’t give a flying fuck if man had consensual sex with ten thousand women, if he’d end the wars and return sanity to this nation.

    Eternal Wars for Israel, that are destroying millions of people’s lives and driving the planet to the brink of world war…”

    Not facts, but merely opinion.

    bullshit

    it’s fact, just as we are witnessing with each passing day. The zio-scum will start a nuclear war with Russia if it means they can steal the Golan Heights once they’ve savored the stench of the carnage and the smoking ruins of Russia and Europe are all that’s left.

    Does the very thought give you a boehner Corvy?

    You do realize Trump “romps” with Jews, right?

    duh imbecile

    who cares if he romps with Jews, so long as he ends the zio-wars. Not all Jews are rotten Zionist scum Corvy, there are many who’re decent human beings.

    What’s significant isn’t that he romps with Jews, but that he just appointed a zio-scumbag as National Security Advisor. Duh.

    You’ve been duped

    we all were. At least those of us with our souls intact, who were hoping he’d end the wars. Gloat all you want Corv. You’re getting your way.

    Your insistence that there is a Zionist conspiracy is predicated on half-truths, overgeneralizations, and confirmation bias.

    No it isn’t (imbecile)

    Were it not a conspiracy, and the very definition of one, there’d be no Israel today. The only reason that “shitty little state’ even exists, is due prima facia to a massive and diabolical conspiracy. Duh.

    your statement “ALL OF IT! are nothing more than a continuation of their same satanic imperative to enslave the planet that menaced Germany in the last century”

    No it isn’t. It was the ZIonist (Jewish supremacists) who demanded war with Germany, just as it’s the Zionists today (Jewish supremacists) who’re demanding war with Iran/Russia.

    Everything I’m saying is pure, unadulterated truth. Regardless of how inconvenient it may be to your agenda to hear it said, Corv.

    If you are that serious about defeating Zionist Jews, take decided action. But I get it, you are physically impotent

    heh

    yea, yea

    I really do wish Trump wasn’t a ruse. It’d be a great pleasure to watch your lot writhe in your juces, as Trump restored sanity to the ZUS foreign policy, and ended the genocide of heritage America/Europe.

    But you won. (not fair and square, but you’ve won nevertheless)

    Isn’t that enough for you Corv? That there’s going to be more, not less Eternal Wars for Israel. And more, not less strife and hatred and division in the world.

    congrats Corvy. Hell’s doors are opening up for humanity, and you can giggle as the people burn.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @Corvinus
  279. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    “Our country, our rules…”
    — You mean that the Friends of Israel own the UK? This is not new.
    Only scoundrels love wars (fought by other peoples’ children). “War Is a Racket,” Smedley Darlington Butler, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.

    The cheerleading for Netanyahu has cost 2.4 million civilian deaths in the Middle East. Naturally, ISIS never attacked its main benefactor, Israel that rules over the zionized US Congress and military and over the thoroughly zionized UK government. http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/boris-johnson-zionist/“Fighting Israels Wars: How the U.S. military and government have become Zionized,” https://www.discussionist.com/1014390843

    “Tony Blair told George W Bush “I will be with you, whatever” eight months before the Iraq invasion.” https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/686783/Tony-Blair-Chilcot-George-Bush-Iraq-War http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3277493/Smoking-gun-emails-reveal-deal-blood-George-Bush-Tony-Blair-secretly-plotted-Iraq-War-closed-doors-YEAR-invasion-started.html

    “Iraq: A War For Israel:” http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml
    “Whatever the secondary reasons for the war, the crucial factor in President Bush’s decision to attack was to help Israel. With support from Israel and America’s Jewish-Zionist lobby, and prodded by Jewish “neo-conservatives” holding high-level positions in his administration, President Bush – who was already fervently committed to Israel – resolved to invade and subdue one of Israel’s chief regional enemies.”

    Anyway, Sean, thanks for reminding the decent people of the rotten US/UK “leadership” of war criminals: the banksters, ziocons, MIC, oilmen, and their puppets like Tony, Theresa, Gavin, and Boris.
    “There is nary a person in prison who does not claim to be innocent, but that does not get you out of it.” — The critical difference is, the US/UK’ criminals are not in prison — even if there is a plenty of evidence of their sub-human criminal actions and their monumental lies. But for you and your ilk, “We are past caring…”

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @anon
  280. KA says:

    Bolton is unlikely to change the landscape much over NK or Iran. In general the shift towards a new cold war is more marked, more obvious,and the process has taken a robotic autonomy. US is expelling diplomats again . USA is following UK and is cheerleading similar decisions by other European countries. Against this background it seems highly unlikely US will do anything stupid other than getting out of JCOPA and piling up on Iran more sanctions which will not be honored by Russia China India and Afghanistan or Iraq. This will accelerate further military cementing among certain core ( Russia China Iraq Syria Venezuela and Iran ) and certain loosely connected countries ( India Brazil Japan S Korea ) with Russia -China despite their dependence on US . Polemics against the trade and foreign military expenditire have started alienating these countries. Right now the momentum is against Russia and it has no sign too be put on revise gear . Trump under attack over sex money collusion can hardly care about USA . He has to spend the resources he has on himself.! Will it lead to attack on Iran? It can if it helps him stay out of the negative news for rest of his term . Bolton might suggest this angle .
    Not long ago one political expert suggested exactly that in one of the OpEd writing Obama could salvage his presidency by attacking Iran !!!! But remember there are powerful forces against Trump who don’t care Iran exists or gets obliterated . They would keep on doing against Trump what they have been doing

    • Replies: @Sean
  281. @Randal

    Randal, he’s just a troll. He’s a dull witted one, at that.

    • Replies: @Randal
  282. @TG

    Q:

    The question is: will his base become(a) mindless supporters, like those ‘liberal democrats’ who still support Obama, or (b)will they at least have the moral courage to realize that they’ve been sold out?

    A; Option (a). WIthout a doubt. Statists always remain statists.

  283. @Rurik

    Arguing with a sophist is just like arguing with the devil; another lost cause. I would tell the sophist to go get a life. May be the best approach is to let the sophist and the devil spit against the wind.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  284. Randal says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Slapping a troll around is as good a way of passing the time as any, if one is in the mood for it.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  285. Virgile says:
    @Joe Levantine

    The two double agents deserve death. They are responsible for the death of lots of people. They are not even dead.
    The “expulsion show” indicates how desperate the anti-Russians are as they must resort to small dirty tricks to prevent Russia to take a larger importance in the world. Russia’s success in Syria is making France, the UK and the USA grind their teeth. They must hit Russia in any way possible as they look more and more impotent in front of the ways events in the ME are going exactly to the opposite to what they have been working on for 7 years, thanks to Russia and Iran
    Any pretext is good to affirm that the colonial powers are still in charge….
    It is a stab in the water… they’ll have to quickly find something else, but they seem short of new events to blame on Russia

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  286. Corvinus says:
    @Joe Levantine

    “Arguing with a sophist is just like arguing with the devil; another lost cause.”

    Indeed, Rurik is a sophist.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  287. QNA says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    There’s a war on that this country is going to lose, and some eccentric is obsessively humping my leg about the world cosmic theory of discrimination rights he pulled out of his butt. It’s like Darwin in action.

  288. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    “Christian like George Bush? Like “reverend” Hagee?”

    He acted as the head of a nation and in the interest of a country. If we are going to use your logic here, then we can cast everyone and anyone to the sodomites, including yourself, for previous immoral conduct.

    “Like those pedophile priests and the Vatican that enables them?”

    Indeed, there has been a massive cover-up with the Vatican on this matter, but ANY organization or nation or government has had, and will continue to have, a dark past. It does not mean that because they had a heinous scandal that they are “rotten”.

    “My dog has more honor and morality in his poop, than all the evangelicals demanding more dead Palestinians, have in their “Christian” souls.”

    Again, just an opinion on your part.

    “And I’d take an atheist all day long, who’d rule with honor and compassion, dignity and integrity, than all the religious leaders on the planet, who’d make a deal with the devil himself, for earthy rewards.”

    That is a False Characterization on your part.

    “Find me a honest Christian, who loves Christ and truth, integrity and honor, as much as they love lucre and fame, and perhaps we can talk.

    Another False Characterization. There are honest Christians with truth and integrity who avoid “lucre and fame”. You are just too wrapped up in your position to actually admit it.

    “Until then, I couldn’t give a flying fuck if man had consensual sex with ten thousand women, if he’d end the wars and return sanity to this nation.”

    Then you are observably no different than those who you believe are unethical.

    “The only reason that “shitty little state’ even exists, is due prima facia to a massive and diabolical conspiracy.”

    It wasn’t conspiracy. It’s called politics–those who favored the creation of Israel and those who opposed the creation of Israel.

    “It was the ZIonist (Jewish supremacists) who demanded war with Germany…”

    No, it was more complicated than that. The fact is that Germany had threatened one of our trade partners, Great Britain, and that Japan sprung a surprise attack that forced our hand.

    “and ended the genocide of heritage America/Europe.”

    More falsehoods. Americans and Europeans are not being “genocided”. There is no direct or indirect effort, or concerted agenda implemented, by non-whites or Jews to murder or destroy an entire group of people.

    More talk on your part. Again, if you are that serious about defeating Zionist Jews, take decided action. But I get it, you are physically impotent, so you would rather smash down some words on a keyboard. Keep banging away…

    • Replies: @Rurik
  289. @Daniel Chieh

    There’s a war on that this country is going to lose, and some eccentric is obsessively humping my leg about the world cosmic theory of discrimination he pulled out of his butt. It’s like Darwin in action.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  290. Corvinus says:
    @Randal

    “Asking an indigenous inhabitant of a European or North American country why he dislikes the propaganda being used to justify and enable the ongoing destruction of his own culture, society and nation is pretty fatuous.”

    Have you ever even considered that it is OTHER than propaganda? That perhaps Europeans and North Americans have employed logic and reason, and believe in bridging the racial and cultural gap between different groups of people? That maybe their religious values play an integral role here? That white people are other than monolithic and do not embrace the notion that “their culture, society, and nation is being destroyed”?

    Furthermore, European whites, as well as African blacks, are NOT indigenous to North or South America. Europeans came here as settlers and immigrants–some would claim as “invaders”–while Africans were ripped from their homeland and packed liked sardines into boats so they could work in the fields as free labor, while their “masters” reaped the profits.

  291. @Corvinus

    Inversion is a devilish art.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @L.K
  292. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    We are all here trying be the most important one, at the centre of the activity that is going on.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZefk4gzQt4&t=59m25s

    Not quite like neurons, empires, states, and nations exist to survive in a competitive environment. So do groups, individuals, cells and genes. It’s called multilevel selection. You want to shift the focus off of nation-states and down to the group level. Well Jews are a successful group at influencing the state level, there is no denying it. But the idea that nation states should leave dangerously unstable enemy leaders like Saddam in power is not obviously true, and according to Bruce Gudmundsson, Saddam was left in place by the first gulf war simply because the US’s gas guzzling tanks exhausted the fuel supplies. It was unfinished business. Saddanm would still be their if he hadn’t invaded Kuiwait.

    When these purported transcripts were made public, Glaspie was accused of having given tacit approval for the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, which took place on August 2, 1990. It was argued that Glaspie’s statements that “We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts” and that “the Kuwait issue is not associated with America” were interpreted by Saddam as giving free rein to handle his disputes with Kuwait as he saw fit. It was also argued that Saddam would not have invaded Kuwait had he been given an explicit warning that such an invasion would be met with force by the United States.[2][3] Journalist Edward Mortimer wrote in the New York Review of Books in November 1990:

    It seems far more likely that Saddam Hussein went ahead with the invasion because he believed the US would not react with anything more than verbal condemnation. That was an inference he could well have drawn from his meeting with US Ambassador April Glaspie on July 25, and from statements by State Department officials in Washington at the same time publicly disavowing any US security commitments to Kuwait, but also from the success of both the Reagan and the Bush administrations in heading off attempts by the US Senate to impose sanctions on Iraq for previous breaches of international law.

    SADDAM was given an inch and took a mile, and stayed in power, them came 9/11. Jews did not cause Saddam to cause the first Gulf War, it was 100% due to the US having given Saddam leeway in his aggression against Iraq that he thought he might be allowed to get away with annexing Kuiwait. Once he took that step, a calculated risk, Saddan was living on borrowed time. Of course one could argue that Samadd tried to conquer Iran and then Kuwait to git his the wherewithal to fight Israel. Anyway, Israel only has Iran to fear now. Bolton and Mike Pompeo are Hawks on Iran not Russia. Iran (which killed US soldiers in Iraq) is going to be crushed.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  293. Sean says:
    @Randal

    If you knew who I was and were and where to find me and publicly said I was a lying cheat, sure to die as a result of my own rottenness and not even worth killing, and I was murdered by means that point to your probable direct involvement, it would not be my personal integrity at issue but yours. .

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  294. Sean says:
    @KA

    Russia and the US are still locked in MAD, nothing is going to happen. The US is not going to start a land war against China by making the same mistake in Korea a second time. Nothing is going to happen in North Korea because China will warn off the US. North Korea is a Chinese cats paw that will be used to get trade concessions from Trump. Iran is completely different. Bolton and Mike Pompeo clearly pro war in regard to Iran.

    • Replies: @anon
  295. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    Sean, it was you who has been peddling the nonsense of “Russia poisons” in the absence of any definite evidence. You have presented a quote by a half-wit ziocon James Lewis who is an expert in nothing. You even produced this fantastic statement: “I have to conclude Putin must take FSB men’s treachery very personally, and have authorised Skirpal’s assassination.”
    The question to you was about your expertise that allows you to support the zioconish (and ignorant) statements of the opportunistic and corrupt Theresa May, Boris Johnson, and Gavin Williamson. In response, rather dishonestly, you sailed into philosophical waters. Stay there. By the way, for a propagandist, you are not an effective one. Same problem of expertise.

    • Replies: @Sean
  296. Corvinus says:
    @Joe Levantine

    I bear witness that you are succumbing to confirmation bias and projection. Perhaps a healthy dose of introspection on your part is appropriate here.

  297. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    Polonium is highly radioactive, it gives off alpha particles and Britain has the technology to detect alpha particles

    210Po is extremely toxic, with one microgram being enough to kill the average adult (250,000 times more toxic than hydrogen cyanide by weight).[7] 210Po was used to kill Russian dissident and ex-FSB officer Alexander V. Litvinenko in 2006,[8]

    In November 1998, Litvinenko and several other FSB officers publicly accused their superiors of ordering the assassination of the Russian tycoon and oligarch Boris Berezovsky. Litvinenko was arrested the following March on charges of exceeding the authority of his position. He was acquitted in November 1999 but re-arrested before the charges were again dismissed in 2000. He fled with his family to London and was granted asylum in the United Kingdom, where he worked as a journalist, writer and consultant for the British intelligence services

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/alexander-litvinenko-murdered-because-he-accused-putin-of-being-a-paedophile-a6824806.html

    Alexander Litvinenko accused Vladimir Putin of being a paedophile four months before he was poisoned

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/12117729/Litvinenko-killers-left-trail-of-radiation-after-visit-to-British-embassy-to-plead-innocence.html

    Litvinenko killers left trail of radiation after visit to British embassy to plead innocence
    Senior diplomat reveals he carried out radioactive sweep of embassy that found polonium after bizarre visit by assassins of Alexander Litvinenko

    “We found traces of radiation on the chairs the suspects had sat in and on the table where Lugovoi had placed his hands. There was even a trace in the slot in the security officers’ room where Lugovoi had been required to deposit his mobile phone.”

    Laughably inept!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/06/kremlin-denies-russian-involvement-in-mystery-illness-former-spy-sergei-skripal
    Andrei Lugovoi, one of the prime suspects in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko, has suggested that the apparent poisoning of a Russian spy in Salisbury is part of a British campaign to demonise Moscow.

    “I don’t rule out that this is another provocation by British intelligence agencies,” said Lugovoi, a pro-Kremlin MP and former FSB spy agency office

    That is the very same thing as you are saying. Cross your heart and hope to die, are you a Russian spy?

    Zero going to happen to Russia anyway, it has nothing anyone wants and too many nukes.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @annamaria
  298. @Quotidian Nitwit Attack

    Maybe he doesn’t like being marginalized in his own country, where his ancestors might have fought and died for, and to which he feels that he should at least be able to express his opinions freely and without being policed because of fear that it might offend some nonwhite people.

  299. @Sean

    Its actually a fundamental part of US Common Law that if I say something like “I wish that Sean dies horribly in a fire”, it does not actually constitute a threat because I cannot realistically be said intend to commit arson with desire to kill. It’d only be valid if I knew where you lived, wrote specifically about the fire code violations at your home, and discussed how “someone could just light a fire and incinerate Sean if he did A, B and C!”

    I’m sure that UK interpretation of death threats is similar – otherwise a lot of “I wish you die in a fire” people will be in trouble. By that criteria, I doubt that Putin’s “threat” would count either, as it does not accurately portray a specific method of realistic threat used to intimidate.

    • Replies: @Sean
  300. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @tac

    If Jews thought the Trumps were Jews and the Trumps donated to Jewish causes and favored Jewish tenants, then why do Jews hate Trump to such a deranged degree?

    I read somewhere a long time ago that during and after WW2 Fred Trump spread the rumor that he was Swedish to avoid a boycott by Jews.

    • Replies: @tac
  301. anarchyst says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Your quote “I beg to differ. Most of the protests re Vietnam were in opposition to war.” is incorrect. Having lived through those turbulent times (with a tour of duty in Vietnam), the protesters were only worried about one thing–saving their own skins from the military draft–nothing more. You see, when the draft was abolished, the protests stopped. There was absolutely no concern for the plight of the ordinary South Vietnamese citizen whose country was being invaded by the communists from the North. The commonly accepted history of the Vietnam war did not take into account the invasion of North Vietnamese troops, calling it a civil war, which it was NOT. You see, history is written by the victors–in this case the North Vietnamese and their communist-inspired “fellow travelers” (protesters and college-deferred types).
    Even present-day “uber-patriot” Ted Nugent got in on the act, defecating on himself and not washing for a month before reporting to his draft board, while stating that “Vietnam was not his war”. Of course, he was sent home…

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  302. @Daniel Chieh

    Who is it policing him? The US made a formal reservation to ICCPR Article 20 claiming hate speech and war propaganda* are protected speech. Here’s an idea. Random loudmouthed idiots try to shut you up all the time. Just sack up and say what you think.

    And marginalizing him? WTF is that? What is it with all this whining?

    * In fact, that’s why you’re going to war with Russia now, which was the original topic of the thread, if you recall.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  303. @anarchyst

    O mores O tempore.

    Thank you for providing more accurate information about war protesters, from your observations and in context.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  304. Sean says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Putin didn’t say he hoped Skirpal (it was about him) died horribly. Putin said Skirpal would die horribly. Witnesses testifying to that kind of statement has been used in courtrooms to help convict many people of murder. Merely having spoke against someone is considered evidence of guilt, once they are then murdered.

    It was an expression of malevolence, and coming from someone who had already had FSB renegade Litvinenko horribly murdered, Putin’s apoplectic menace about Skirpal should have been taken a lot more seriously that it was. Skirpal was homesick and meeting people from the embassy–a fatal error.

  305. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    “Laughably inept!”
    – Yes, the whole “Sir” Owen inquiry is a black eye to the UK establishment. He said – she said… And then comes your firm verdict supported by the “bold” statement of a whining ziocon James Lewis — the laughably inept “analyst” trumpeting the world’s hostile plot against the poor innocent defenseless United States.

    “…are you a Russian spy?”
    – You mean, a presence of common sense and the lack of tribalist (Jewish) loyalty is an indication of a Russain spy? How come that all scoundrels gravitate to Cheney-Netanyahu-Blair (May) axis and all decent people listen to the critics of the zioconzed US? Guess, for you such people as Pilger, Giraldi, Assange, Vanessa Beeley, Colonel Lang and other courageous and principled experts are just Russian spies.
    You still did not present a single verified evidence to your “beliefs.” Moreover, you did not bother to read the “sir” Owen drivel re Litvinenko affair. You should — while imagining that the same judicial standards are applied to you. That would be quite educational.

    • Replies: @Atticus Felch
    , @Sean
  306. annamaria says:

    A stinky cherry on the Bolton’s pie: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49074.htm
    “…the United States has been put to shame by the fact that its national security advisor is on the payroll of a terrorist cult, alluding to the money paid by anti-Iran Mojahedeen Khalq Organization (MKO) to John Bolton for delivering speeches at the terrorist group’s gatherings.
    In November 2016, US-based magazine Politico reported that the former US envoy was on the MKO’s payroll and lobbied to erase the group from the State Department’s list of terrorist groups during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as the top US diplomat.
    The report also underlined that in addition to “longtime regime-change advocates” in the US such as Bolton, “who recently boasted before a MKO crowd in Paris that he had been engaged with them for a decade,” the terror group signed up Republican and Democratic politicians en masse.
    The US State Department added the MKO to its list of foreign terrorist organizations in 1997 for the group’s involvement in the killing of Americans in Iran in the 1970s and an attack on US soil in 1992.”

    Support the troops! (Bolton style)

  307. annamaria says:

    On the Verge of Nuclear War: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/26/verge-nuclear-war/
    “…no evidence has been presented that any nerve agent was involved, no evidence that it was a Russian nerve agent, and no evidence that Russia, or Putin himself according to the crazed British foreign secretary, is responsible, this accusation is the most reckless and irresponsible charge imaginable.”
    — The “crazed British foreign secretary” is also a self-proclaimed “passionate zionist” who would not utter a word without obtaining first an approval from the zionized US “leadership.” http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/boris-johnson-zionist/

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/fighting-israels-wars-u-s-military-government-become-zionized/

    • Replies: @Sean
  308. @annamaria

    Sean is talking out his butt about Litvinenko. The Litvinenko Setup may actually exceed the appalling ineptitude of British attempts to frame Gaddafy for the Lockerbie bombing. If they’re not careful, little Britain’s Skripal farce may end in the same humiliating way, with real jurists in the ICJ exposing Britain’s CIA-run courts to historic disgrace.

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/17/litvinenko-and-the-demise-of-british-justice/

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @annamaria
  309. Sean says:

    He is an extreme hawk, closely tied to the Israel Lobby, who would push hard for war against Iran and also for a hardline position in Syria, one that could lead to direct confrontation with the Syrian Armed Forces and possibly the Russians.

    Bolton is a Hawk on Iran, and comparatively dovish on Russia. I have never understood anyone thinking that Russia would go up against America to save Iran. The Russians only sent an expeditionary force to Syria after America decided against bombing Assad.

    • Replies: @L.K
  310. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    I think you are right on this.

  311. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    The leader of Russia is not subject to the British judicial system.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  312. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    Mutual Assured Destruction. It’s called MAD for a reason dear.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  313. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    Should we take this your revelation as a bombshell news? What this statement has to do with your admiration for the UK scoundrels-in-charge?
    The UK is owned by the Friends of Israel. You never tried to refute this statement.

  314. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    First, you missed a comma. Second, I am not your “dear.” And third, a crumbling empire could be suicidal, particularly when it became “governed” by the opportunist ignoramuses and supremacist mental cases.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @L.K
  315. Sparkon says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    His “more accurate information” is opinion.

    I served during (but not in) the Vietnam War. After my discharge in the early 70s, I enrolled in college on the GI Bill, and joined the campus Vet’s Club.

    Virtually every veteran I met was completely opposed to the war. It was, after all, returned Vietnam vets — along with Korean and WWII veterans — whose anti-war protests help turn the U.S. citizenry against the war.

    NY Times: “When Veterans Protested the Vietnam War”

    Posted to Vietnam as an Army radio specialist, I celebrated my 20th birthday in Saigon in January 1963, a very drunk soldier in the United States Military Assistance Command Vietnam. A year and a half before the Gulf of Tonkin “incident,” we were already waging war … some of it was thrilling. I caught flights on Air Force C-123s skimming treetops and bush-pilot planes flown by my Army unit transporting Special Operations teams in and out of hush-hush places, with B-26 and T-28 bombers and assorted other airplanes and helicopters flitting around, all part of a strategy to “pacify” rice-farming regions and jungle forests potentially harboring elusive Vietcong guerrillas, under the guise of being “military advisers” to a government we had installed.
    [...]
    And much against my small-town, patriotic, Republican upbringing in upstate New York, I joined a peace demonstration. The April 15, 1967, antiwar march to the United Nations plaza drew more than 100,000 people, including a large contingent of older, predominantly World War II and Korean War veterans wearing “Veterans for Peace” hats. I joined a small group of grim young men with a banner that read “Vietnam Veterans Against the War!”
    [...]
    We veterans played a major part in the roiling antiwar activism. As college campuses exploded in protest, outraged student veterans spoke out across the nation, appalled when four students were killed by the Ohio National Guard at Kent State University. Soldiers coming home joined veterans in mounting their own protests, embittered by horrific battlefield casualties, nightmarish atrocities and horrendous conditions at Veterans Administration hospitals…
    [...]
    In the public imagination, Vietnam veterans stand in contrast to antiwar protesters — at best, the maligned victims of government policy; at worst, willing accomplices to atrocities. But as I experienced firsthand, those stereotypes ignore the vital role that thousands of veterans played in the antiwar movement, bringing testimony and moral witness to bear against a disastrous military adventure.

    – Jan Berry

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/opinion/when-veterans-protested-the-vietnam-war.html

  316. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    More on the laughably inept “sir” Owen: https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/17/litvinenko-and-the-demise-of-british-justice/
    “Even the exact details of Litvinenko’s death are classified. We are told it was from polonium 210, but the autopsy report itself remains classified. This is an extraordinary situation, given that Owen used the alleged fact of polonium poisoning to attribute responsibility to Russia and its alleged agents. It is also extraordinary given the propaganda purposes to which the Owen’s report has been put. …
    This hypothesis of polonium in the teapot is a good example of the fantastical nature of the Owen Report. Polonium is a rare, hugely expensive [$2 million per gram] and highly dangerous substance. It glows blue when exposed to the air which would itself presumably excite curiosity. It cannot be handled with bare hands and even exposure to the air creates a danger for the perpetrator. …. evidence strongly suggests that Litvinenko was, in fact, contaminated prior to his tea meeting with Lugovoi and Kovtun at the Pine Bar. In a proper inquiry this fact alone, if established, would be of huge significance and utterly destroy the Owen scenario. …
    Although there has never been an inquest into Litvinenko’s death that reached a conclusion the British government leaped to the conclusion that Lugovoi and Kovtun had been responsible…
    Under British law an accused person has as a minimum:
    The right to know the evidence against them beforehand.
    The right to challenge by cross-examination the witnesses for the prosecution.
    The right to be legally represented.
    The right to challenge the admissibility of evidence on the grounds, for example, that is irrelevant, inadmissible opinion, hearsay or otherwise contrary to the rules of evidence.
    The right to a finding that is only open on the admissible evidence to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt.
    To begin the trial with the presumption of innocence that is only rebutted by the weight of evidence to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt.
    The onus of discharging that burden of proof rests with the prosecution from beginning to end.
    It is not an overstatement to say that the Owen Inquiry violated each and every one of those basic principles. As such, this was not so much an inquiry to establish the truth, but a travesty of what was once favourably known as “British justice.”Alexander Mercouris rightly called it an absurd show trial.”

  317. Sean says:
    @Atticus Felch

    It’s true there is not a criminal case standard of proof against Putin, but he cannot claim the protections of a defendant under British criminal law and diplomatic immunity. We think he did the dirty on us, twice.

  318. annamaria says:
    @Atticus Felch

    “… exposing Britain’s CIA-run courts…”
    – True. The Assange case ruling is another act by the “Sir”-Savile British Judicial system.
    The judging Madam Arbuthnot was carefully selected by the “deciders:” Her husband is a lobbyist for Israel and for weapon manufacturers.” James Arbuthnot had previously chaired Conservative Friends of Israel.” https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/david-cronin/are-weapons-heart-britains-romance-israel

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Atticus Felch
  319. L.K says:
    @Sean

    Shlomo, er, sorry, sean, you are so full of SHIT that it is almost funny.

    You must be so butt-hurt, the ZUS/Saudi backed Wahhabi militants have recently taken another beating, this time losing East Ghouta, from where they kept shelling Syria’s capital & threatening it…
    No mas!
    Things nearly over for your heroes there, shlomo, I mean, sean…

    Great footage from Russian ANNA News:

  320. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    Countries don’t go mad or develop weird obsessions, individuals like Lee Harvey Oswald or Edward Snowdon do. But you probably think Oswald was framed.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  321. L.K says:
    @annamaria

    Annamaria,

    Shlomo, I mean ‘sean’, is a well known shill for the Zio-Zamerican Empire who posts crap here at Unz.

    The sniveling little coward is salivating for a war against Iran now that war criminal Bolton is in place.

    Ron Paul recently wrote:

    …While Trump and Mattis were celebrating big military spending increases, the president announced that John Bolton, one of the chief architects of the Iraq war debacle, would become his national security advisor. As former CIA analyst Paul Pillar has written, this is a man who, while at the State Department, demanded that intelligence analysts reach predetermined conclusions about Iraq and WMDs. He cooked the books for war.

    Bolton is on the record calling for war with Iran, North Korea, even Cuba! His return to a senior position in government is a return to the unconstitutional, immoral, and failed policies of preemptive war.

    Make no mistake: the neocons are back and looking for another war. They’ve got the president’s ear. Iran? North Korea? Russia? China? Who’s next for the warmongers?

  322. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    He got bail, not poisoned. Have you seen Anna Chapman’s holiday snaps? The Western intelligence services certainly took a terrible revenge.

  323. @annamaria

    Since 1947 the British judiciary has always had one function: CIA public relations. That’s why there is now no British judge on the ICJ – the civilized world booted them off the court. And of course that includes letting off CIA’s blackmailed pedo VIPs when they’re caught with their pants down.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/11/12/fresh-twists-in-the-lockerbie-case/

    • Replies: @annamaria
  324. L.K says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Yep, corvAnus wrote that line while looking at his cowardly little rat face in the mirror…

    BTW, I have yet to see corvAnus talk about the real, hard core racism that occurs in Palestine…
    Perpetrated by Jewish supremacist squatters who stole the Palestinian lands & ethnic cleansed them en masse, and this all in the post WW2 era… a process that continues to this day… all this backed by the ZUSA.

    A small, very mild example of the sort of thing the occupied Palestinians have to put up on a daily basis from Jew supremacist scum in their own ancestral homelands;

    An Israeli settler from Havat Mor violently unleashes his dog on a Palestinian shepherd and his sheep in occupied South Hebron Hills:

  325. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    So Collin Powell did not find out the truth just before being ‘forced ‘to misrepresent at UN to the UN members . He knew it all along He was there scheming and cavorting with the demons opportunistically created by 911 . He wants people believe he is sincere guy who just has a ‘blot’ from getting . ass kicked by Bush Cheney just before March 2003

  326. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    US hegemony when is dealt a mild blow, starts wringing hands, starts complaining, starts hoping for positive changes and starts photo shopping its own album of death and mayhem Syria has shown it all in dire clear obvious relief . This is what weak coward corrupt hegemon does

    “Americans really unleash hell on all civilian infrastructure” – We see that at home and in the debris known as UK . It is metaphorical also emptying the soul of its essence .

    NK- wasn’t US planning to go there with some kind of death wishes until some sane brains talked them out of it?

  327. @Quantified Nut Aspirations

    It must be nice in your dimension of reality. Are the women there green?

  328. Rurik says:
    @RobinG

    Hi Robin,

    makes me think that you haven’t given up all hope

    the moment that happens, I don’t know what I’d do or even be, the next moment. Hope is intrinsic to me on a certain level, even if I’m a hardcore cynic.

    Perhaps I’ve lost hope for Trump after John Bolton. Or, more precisely, I’ve lost hope for Trump, after John Bolton, but I haven’t lost complete hope for humanity, in spite of the zio-scum that permeate the depths of its elites.

    as for voting, this is the biggest argument for voting that I can think of

    My hope was to build bridges between anti-war advocates from both left and right,… …. Anyway, there’s much more potential in the drifting center than there is on the right.

    a noble aspiration Robin, and one we should all pursue, if the opportunity presents itself.

    The Occupy crowd knew something was rotten, but it had no message. If there’s one thing the left and the right ought to be able to agree on is the evil of the Eternal Wars.

    How can people on the left or right be OK with the Eternal Wars, (or torture or Police State Total surveillance or shutting down free speech, as a short list) only proves the lack of integrity on both sides.

    Anyone who was a proponent or apologist of the Iraq war, from either ideological camp, is to my mind, either irredeemably stupid, or complicit/rotten. And those from either side of the ideological extremes, as long as they both agree on the criminality and immorality of the Eternal War, means there is common ground to seek common cause.

    If David Duke is against the war, and Code Pink is against the war, they should be able to set aside their petty differences and forge a new anti-war center. I mean that.

    QNA is just a weirdo,

    often I’ll just read some wording that some person writes, and be turned off, and then ignore anything else they write, unless someone else points to a certain comment as being worth reading.

    I read a few words by that QNA thing and then simply ignored everything else it wrote.

    all we’ve got is the threat of our votes. Why give that up?

    I understand the sentiment, because we’re so often (always?) betrayed. It’s always the party of Tweedle Dee and Dumb. We never get what we vote for. But then I contemplate the war sow, and I know that at least voting saved us from that. So I’m still a fan of it, up to a point.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Stonehands
    , @QNA
  329. Delmas says:

    Patrick Buchanan came out with an article on VDARE.com yesterday about this hawkish mood that seems to have taken Washington lately. He even speculates that Trump might be forming a War Cabinet, which would be tragic, since Iran at the moment has proved her good faith on the nuclear deal. The article is really worth a read.

  330. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    Christian like George Bush? Like “reverend” Hagee?”

    He acted as the head of a nation and in the interest of a country.

    yes he did, but the nation he acted in the interest of, was not the nation he was the head of. IOW he was a treasonous, cowardly lying war criminal and murderer. You can’t be a murderer and a Christian now can you? So he was also a liar.

    The point is that being a Christian, is no guarantee that you’re moral. Hardly.

    If we are going to use your logic here, then we can cast everyone and anyone to the sodomites, including yourself, for previous immoral conduct.

    I don’t consider fornication as immoral. Hardly.

    But I do consider murder, torture, treason, assorted war crimes, crimes against humanity, betraying your country and your countrymen and condemning thousands of young Americans, who trusted you to protect them, to die in immoral and illegal wars, not to mention the hundreds of thousands or more innocent souls slaughtered, that that George Bush is guilty for..

    as immoral.

    So that’s my metric Corvy,

    Make love to a woman out of wedlock = moral, as far as Rurik is concerned

    /

    betray your country and people and illegally lie a nation into contrived wars for the fun and profit of a few satanic psychopaths = immoral.

    “My dog has more honor and morality in his poop, than all the evangelicals demanding more dead Palestinians, have in their “Christian” souls.”

    Again, just an opinion on your part.

    nope

    pure, unadulterated fact. If there is such a thing as morality, (and I believe there is) then advocating the murder of innocent people because you expect somehow to benefit personally (rapture) from their deaths = as immoral as you can get.

    Dog shit is morally neutral. It can not make moral decisions, therefor, a “Christian” who advocates murder and suffering and genocide, (in the Holy Land of all places!) so that they can have a thousand year orgasm, is less moral than dog shit. It’s an irrefutable fact.

    There are honest Christians with truth and integrity who avoid “lucre and fame”.

    I’m not talking ab0ut the rank and file. I’m talking about leadership.

    Who are these influential Christian leaders who’ve been condemning the Satanic Eternal Wars with all their heart, breath and soul?

    Who are they Corv? I’d really like to know.

    “The only reason that “shitty little state’ even exists, is due prima facia to a massive and diabolical conspiracy.”

    It wasn’t conspiracy. It’s called politics–those who favored the creation of Israel and those who opposed the creation of Israel.

    no (imbecile)

    it was a conspiracy.

    what was the Balfour Declaration if not a conspiracy? What was pre-1948 Zionism, if not a conspiracy? I know you’re an imbecile, but sometimes I even wonder if you’re retarded. I guess it’s a short trip.

    The rest of your puerile idiocy isn’t worth responding to, not that any of it was..

    I guess it amuses me to mock imbeciles from time to time

    ;)

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  331. Art says:
    @Miro23

    But there is another kind of power. If the US public could re-familiarize themselves with the art of street demonstrations, this could prove lethal to the Deep State (DS)

    Miro23,

    There two reasons why we do not have peace demonstrations. The first is that the Jews do NOT want peace. Jews want war – Jews benefit from war. No money or publicity will be given to peace organizations. The opposite will happen. The J-MSM will do their best to ignore them. The normal avenues of public discourse are closed off to peace movements.

    The second is elitist feminism. Traditionally, peace movements are fostered and organized by a segment of women. Naturally they do not want to see their fathers, husbands, and sons die and be maimed by war. But today’s elite feminists want to be seen, as tough as men. They promote lower class women fighting in the military.

    An active internet can bypass the anti-peace forces.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Miro23
  332. tac says:
    @Anon

    then why do Jews hate Trump to such a deranged degree?

    Short answer is tribal mentality along with a ruse as perpetrated by the MSM to make it appear like he stands against their opposition; having removed the cloak one would be able to see he was always the ‘controlled opposition’ ….

    My hunch is tied to the Cambridge Analytica company that Trump’s campain used to build a psychological profile of this potential voters and having built this profile (it was one akin to Brexit type)–where popular groundswell was the driving force of resitence against the power elite (status quo), endless wars, lost sense of identity, lower standard of living, etc.

    Having attained this profile, Trump–as opposed to Clinton (who rigged the primary to guarantee herself as the ‘other controlled opposition’ by the ((powers)) rigging both sides, and who was to be the face of the other coin)–merely appealed to desires, needs of this group of deplorables to secure the nomination. IMHO, he lied through this teeth, just to gain favor to his true ma$$ters.

    I read somewhere a long time ago that during and after WW2 Fred Trump spread the rumor that he was Swedish to avoid a boycott by Jews.

    This information is in the very article I linked.

    If one really wants to build a profile on Trump (Cambridge Analytica style) one assuredly performed by the usual ((powers)) then one should read this article I’ve linked in its entirety. It will start to make sense then.

  333. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    Thanks, Rurik.

    Trump winning felt like a miracle. Things are ugly now and the chaos is scary, but it’s still preferable to the brand of phony we would have had. The fight is in the open. Many veils have fallen. Cynthia McKinney posits that factions of the Deep State are battling against each other.

    “….we should all pursue, if the opportunity presents itself.”

    Indeed.

  334. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    Ok, Sean, just keep staying in the waters of philosophizing. Facts have the unbearable anti-ziocon bias for you. See PNAC, Wolfowitz doctrine, Oded Yinon plan, Magnitsky Act “arranged” by the criminal liar Browder, Nuland-Kagan’s role in banderization of Ukraine (hey, Babi Yar!), the CIA/Israel cooperation with ISIS, the starving of Iraqi children, the slaughter of Lybian, Syrian, and Yemeni children, the targeted extrajudicial assassinations by MOSSAD and Obama. This is some record.
    A clown Boris is a Passionate Zionist. The most pious Tony Blair is a war criminal. The heartless traitor Cheney and his human-size puppet Bush the lesser are war profiteers and war criminals. Each of them has been willingly serving the influential Zionists. But because this mold hates light, Assange and Snowden are in hiding. By the rules of decency and by international law, it should be vice versa.
    Just stay with philosophizing, Sean. The truth is unbearable for you.

    • Replies: @Sean
  335. annamaria says:
    @Atticus Felch

    Thank you.
    The British judicial system should be named after “sir” Savile who had been molesting and raping children for 40 years, but the system (including the Scotland Yard that is now courageously keeping Assange a prisoner) saw no evil in the numerous complaints re Savile pedo-crimes.
    Madam Arbuthnot (from a family of war profiteers and Israel-firsters) whose prepared judgment has left Assange locked in the Ecuador embassy) is a natural representative of the British (“sir” Savile’ ) judicial system.

  336. @Randal

    Yeah, I suppose. Too bad you can’t actually slap him, though. It might improve his character.

  337. tac says:

    Rurik:

    Do no despair or give-up. The very role of the Hasbara trolls is to spin circles of irrelevance, hijack threads and steer them in a direction they are familiar with, supply non-sequitur or generalized fluffs, distort from reality or at least a sense of reality thereby attempting to exhaust, demoralize and intimidate you all the while they try to minimize and obscure vis-a-vis projection–a parallel of sorts on the world stage when one thinks about it, a telling trait of sorts ….

    What they fail to realize in their ever increasing arrogance and sense of invincibility is that more and more people are awaken to their deceitful schemes so they and their benefactors will one day soon be brought forth to answer for their ills.

  338. Miro23 says:
    @Art

    But there is another kind of power. If the US public could re-familiarize themselves
    with the art of street demonstrations, this could prove lethal to the Deep State (DS)

    There are two reasons why we do not have peace demonstrations, 1) Jews don’t want it & they control the media 2) Elite feminists don’t want it.

    This isn’t really convincing, because elites are very few people, and they mostly enforce collaboration through fear. They’re 100% dependent on the command structure (machinery of state) to exert their power. When this breaks down they have nothing.

    And totalitarian Deep State regimes can break down very fast with civil disorder. Here’s one example from 1989:

    Securitate:

    In the 1980s, the Securitate (Deep State) launched a massive campaign to stamp out dissent in Romania, manipulating the country’s population with vicious rumors (such as supposed contacts with Western intelligence agencies), machinations, frame-ups, public denunciations, encouraging conflict between segments of the population, public humiliation of dissidents, toughened censorship and the repression of even the smallest gestures of independence by intellectuals. ….. Assassinations were also used to silence dissent.

    And how it ended:

    As anti-government protesters demonstrated in Timișoara in December 1989, he (Ceaușescu) perceived the demonstrations as a political threat and ordered military forces to open fire on 17 December, causing many deaths and injuries. The revelation that Ceaușescu was responsible resulted in a massive spread of rioting and civil unrest across the country. The demonstrations, which reached Bucharest, became known as the Romanian Revolution—the only violent upheaval of a communist government in the turn of the Revolutions of 1989. Ceaușescu and his wife, Elena, fled the capital in a helicopter, but were captured by the armed forces after the armed forces changed sides. On 25 December, after being tried and convicted of economic sabotage and genocide, They were immediately executed by firing squad.

    Wikipedia: “Securitate” & “Nicolae Ceausescu”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=HFBnP1HQ7rQ

  339. @Virgile

    Great perceptive thinking that is out of sync with the intelligentsia of the West.

  340. @Rurik

    “Who are these influential Christian leaders who’ve been condemning the Satanic Eternal Wars with all their heart, breath and soul?”
    Well we have to credit for that poop Francis. For all his hectoring about the immorality of resisting the Anglo Zionist engineered third world invasion of Europe and his support of the so called Global Warming hoax, and his refusal to take a position on sodomy, not a word from him about the injustices the Palestinians have to struggle through on a daily basis nor any condemnation of the dirty imperialistic war in Syria with so called Rebel fighters acting in a war of proxy for NATO against the only secular regime in the Middle East, the only one that guarantees the right of worship to any religious entity in the Middle East. Meanwhile, he talks about building bridges while hankering behind the walls of the Vatican. Frankly, I have never been more embarrassed by my catholic faith courtesy of the fake pontiff who happens to get on so well with none other than the Israelis.
    Oh! I almost forgot the Bishop of Paris condemning the Holocaust, in a lecture in the USA a few years back, with all his heart and soul. Not a word from the venerable bishop about the persecution of the French state of this most honourable fighter Robert Faurisson for daring the challenge the allegation of the gaz chambers.
    I have known and befriended many Catholic priests who have the love of God in their hearts but the more you move up the Catholic hierarchy, the more the stench of human opportunism and treachery become stronger.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  341. polskijoe says:
    @Rurik

    Interesting reply if true (I dont know enough about US history).

    Whats interesting is Jackson was a Freemason
    and he opposed the bankers. At least it appears more aggresively then…

    Later Freemasons like Truman, Ford, Taft, Roosevelt all fell to ZioJew pressure or apologized.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  342. polskijoe says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Visegrad (certainly Poland, Hungary, and probably Czech the last with Jewish connections)
    is part of US network Conservative network. Have a look at the recent expulsions list of diplmats in Europe. And the countries who didnt.

    Most of the upper establishment is intermixed at some level.

    The Visegrad is not some saviour. Its just decent on immigration issues. Poland with some Catholic conservatives (but also pressure from neocons), and Hungary similar.

    Eastern/Central Europe is divided.

    So from all the mostly homogenous countries many of them are connected to US influence.
    Sure they arent Sjws, or Libs (though some factions are). They are resisting open borders.
    While siding with military complex, even WASP interests over some other Catholic nations.

    Again Poland establishment has no plans to leave EU. They love the money atm. So do the majority of Poles. With Neocon/American help they are getting “richer”. Only if the Muslim/Leftist pressure grows
    than maybe they would leave in the future.

    Russia itself has many problems with crime, multicultarism, etc. So Europe is in tough case.
    The whole West is.

  343. @Rurik

    Code pink and jackasses like Cindy Sheehan are only anti- war when it is politically expedient- where the hell were they during the “Big Chief”Barack O’sambos bloody reign?

    • Disagree: RobinG
    • Replies: @Rurik
  344. Anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Great post.

  345. QNA says:
    @Rurik

    Name-calling, admittedly capricious distate you cannot articulate – good bridge-building! Way to transcend those petty differences, ace. RobinG in her self-appointed role as head organizer calls for a rock, gets a rock, and reflexively says, no not that rock, get me another rock. Can’t say why… The organizing principles that the whole outside world is using to neuter the US government seem to cause you disquiet and obscure discomfort. You can’t bring yourself to climb aboard. And you wonder why your police state squashes your listless antiwar Easter parades like a bug.

    Sounds like some good doobies have had their tender sensibilities triggered with unwelcome thoughts. Residual state indoctrination needs some safe space, perhaps.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  346. @QNA

    I don’t think that Rurik finds building bridges with you to be high in his list of goals in life. I think it might even come below “learn Hebrew.”

    • LOL: Rurik
    • Replies: @QNA
  347. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    Nation-states are there to look after their own people. I don’t trust anyone who claims to be as worried about other nations’ peoples as their own. Some countries have a problem with untoward minority groups (Alawites in Syria ). Never Jews because they always care equally about everyone, just like you.

    • Troll: RobinG
    • Replies: @annamaria
  348. QNA says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    No, ‘bridge’-building is RobinG’s thing, it would seem. Rurik comes across as more of a ‘set aside petty differences’ sort of guy. Evidently both of those transcendent ideals are strictly conditioned on certain ideological litmus tests which remain obscure to this observer, variously categorized as weirdo, communist, turn-off, or nut of some sort. One begins to see why Americans can’t organize their way out of a paper bag.

    The most remarkable thing is watching certain concepts – it’s hard to tell which – causing these well-meaning individuals to stop building bridges and rising above, and to recoil in horror and make a crucifix out of their fingers. It’s something that they can’t come out and say.

  349. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    Sean, do you see the lack of logic in your statements?
    1. “I don’t trust anyone who claims to be as worried about other nations’ peoples as their own.”
    — This is exactly the problem with Israel-firsters in the US and UK. Their allegiance is first and foremost to Israel. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Jewish+spies+in+the+US&bext=msl&atb=v99-2&ia=web
    “Israel’s espionage activities in America are unrivaled and unseemly, counterspies have told members of the House Judiciary and Foreign Affairs committees, going far beyond activities by other close allies, such as Germany, France, the U.K. and Japan. A congressional staffer familiar with a briefing last January called the testimony “very sobering…alarming…even terrifying.” Another staffer called it “damaging.”
    The Jewish state’s primary target: America’s industrial and technical secrets.”

    2. “…they [Jews] always care equally about everyone…”
    – Please, spare “us” from your “care.” The Israel-firsters’ allegiance to Israel has been one of the factors (perhaps the strongest factor) for the ongoing slaughterous wars of aggression in the Middle East. These wars have brought both financial and moral ruin upon the US and EU. The Lobby has been very effective in organizing the Fifth Column among the “natives.” But it’s becoming clearer with every day, that this tribal activity has been self-defeating: It is the moral collapse of the Jewish State that has ben having the most disastrous consequences both for the State and its obnoxious “Friends.” The “Friends” — surprise! — prefer to live within the confines of western civilization that was dangerously wounded by the machinations of Jewish nationalists.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @tac
  350. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    Yes Jews are a nation spread over other states.

    western civilization that was dangerously wounded by the machinations of Jewish nationalists.

    The West cannot win at the current rates of immigration into the West. I am more concerned with Jewish influence on domestic matters in the West, such as their hamstringing anti-immigration sentiment than than them getting us into foreign wars. After Iraq and Syria the West onlyhas to finish the job of destroying all Israels enemies by destroying Iran. Then Israel can expel the West Bank Arabs, and the Jews in the West will shut up. Chattering dwarves like you will scream about morality, but talk is cheap and logic in the real world of nation states does not require one to do as they would be done by.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  351. tac says:
    @annamaria

    Sean is a laughable ZioTroll and his assertions such as:“…they [Jews] always care equally about everyone…or …Then Israel can expel the West Bank Arabs, and the Jews in the West will shut up…” are bold-faced propaganda lies. Let’s just examine one such video of how brainwashed Israeli settlers treat Palestinians and the American contingent sent to show solidarity with their [Palestinian] rights:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=uXnnP15-A_Q

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Sean
  352. Anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    It’s the hubris that does you in every time – and this time it’s final.

    what sick ridiculous puppets we are
    and what gross little stage we dance on
    what fun we have dancing and fucking
    not a care in the world
    not knowing that we are nothing
    we are not what was intended

  353. Sean says:
    @tac

    I was being sarcastic about both annamaria and who she criticizes. At the level of nation states and war between them for the prize of security that we are speaking of, the lives of innocent people are an incident, not an end (the survival of one’s own country is the immediate and ongoing goal). You can bleat about foreign wars but I don’t think that makes you more moral than someone like Bolton. A right is something you can get enforced or it is nothing. No nation state has the right to exist, that is why wars involving the inevitable killing of innocent people (inadvertent, collateral or deliberate) are necessary and will continue to be necessary .

  354. Rurik says:
    @Joe Levantine

    poop Francis. For all his hectoring about the immorality of resisting the Anglo Zionist engineered third world invasion of Europe and his support of the so called Global Warming hoax, and his refusal to take a position on sodomy, not a word from him about the injustices the Palestinians have to struggle through on a daily basis nor any condemnation of the dirty imperialistic war in Syria…

    it is my sincere belief that it’s possible to learn far more about a person by what they don’t say, than by all the lies and half-truths they spew on any given day.

    when it comes to Christian leaders, the crickets that chirp over the wars and genocide (of often Christian Palestinians) are thunderous!

    It tells us they quietly approve, or that they’re such moral cowards that they don’t have the integrity to speak out. Either way they’re just as guilty and rotten as the criminals and murderers perpetrating the crimes.

    If you know that jets are headed to the Twin Towers, and you specifically don’t warn the people inside (because you want them to die), then you’re just as complicit and guilty as the people who plotted and carried out the attack.

    And if your flock are counting on you to keep them informed about spiritual truths, but you keep silent about the iniquities and sins you know are being done in their name, because it means more shekels clinking under your frock. Then such a spiritual leader is just as rotten and evil as the assorted war pigs and profiteers committing the atrocities. Perhaps even more so, because the war pigs aren’t putting on airs of being holy and Godly and pious.

    the poop just said there is no hell, but personally, I hope to God there is one, if for no other reason than as a just reward for the pope’s serial betrayals and as apologist for demonic crimes.

    I have known and befriended many Catholic priests who have the love of God in their hearts but the more you move up the Catholic hierarchy, the more the stench of human opportunism and treachery become stronger.

    that’s been my experience too Joe.

    There are a lot of Catholics in my family (some of them quite devout), and like the protestants I know, they’re some of the most decent, kind and loving people you’ll ever know. And I’ve found this is true with most people and religions. Jews and Muslims and Hindus as well.

    But with all of them, the leadership are psychopaths and the closest they come to being religious is their worship of Moloch, Satan, Mammon.

    The problem is money (and fame and power). They get it, and they want more. So they sacrifice their respective congregations to the Fiend’s pyres of human sacrifice, so that they personally can wallow in earthly, mortal pleasures.

  355. Rurik says:
    @Stonehands

    Code pink and jackasses like Cindy Sheehan are only anti- war when it is politically expedient- where the hell were they during the “Big Chief”Barack O’sambos bloody reign?

    a Vietnam vet I knew once pointed out to me that Cindy Sheehan is a racist, anti-white sack of shit

    and from the way she gushes over these vile peddlers of hate, that appears to be true.

    But back when I used to read antiwar.com, and knew it was run by a ‘packer, I didn’t let his revolting lifestyle get in the way of his otherwise important message.

    if it’s possible to find common cause with liberals, then we should try, I would think.

    Bolster their ideas when they’re correct about something, like the evil of the Eternal Wars, without handing over blanket support for some of their more egregious idiocies.

    Also, Sheehan didn’t give the Nobel prize winner a pass

    https://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Cindy-Sheehan-Obama-Bush/2014/09/30/id/597769/

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Stonehands
  356. Rurik says:
    @polskijoe

    Interesting reply if true (I dont know enough about US history).

    they don’t teach the real history in the American history books, ever since the Fiend was granted ownership of these formerly free states in 1913.

    If the reason for the war was a scheme of the English banksters to enslave the colonies, then once they had America under their zio-boot, why the hell would they allow the truth about it to be told to school children?

    In 1764, the Bank of England used its influence on Parliament to get a Currency Act passed that made it illegal for any of the colonies to print their own money. The colonists were forced to pay all future taxes to Britain in silver or gold. Anyone lacking in those precious metals had to borrow them at interest from the banks.

    Only a year later, Franklin said, the streets of the colonies were filled with unemployed beggars, just as they were in England. The money supply had suddenly been reduced by half, leaving insufficient funds to pay for the goods and services these workers could have provided. He maintained that it was “the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament which has caused in the colonies hatred of the English and . . . the Revolutionary War.” This, he said, was the real reason for the Revolution: “the colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction.”

    Alexander Hamilton, the nation’s first treasury secretary, said that paper moneyhad composed three-fourths of the total money supply before the American Revolution. When the colonists could not issue their own currency, the money supply had suddenly shrunk, leaving widespread unemployment, hunger and poverty in its wake. Unlike the Great Depression of the 1930s, people in the 1770s were keenly aware of who was responsible for their distress.

    The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the Revolution.

    B. Franklin

    more here

    http://washingtonsblog.com/2009/06/the-other-reason-for-the-american-revolution.html

  357. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    ;)

    Original Techno Viking

    • Replies: @Rurik
  358. @Rurik

    “if it’s possible to find common cause with liberals, then we should try, I would think…

    No way. Maybe 10 years ago… there was still time for debate.

    Now, we play for KEEPS.

    And just like the Iraqi’s there is NO great power on our side.

    But Goliath is bound by his own PC degeneracy and deviancy. I see 3’11” round black female midgets in Homeland Security and Philly PD. Maybe there is a fit unit of SWAT…probably … but over-all a laughingstock totally reliant on the grid for camera surveillance, communication etc..

    • Replies: @Rurik
  359. Rurik says:
    @RobinG

    that dude is in shape!

  360. Rurik says:
    @Stonehands

    And just like the Iraqi’s there is NO great power on our side.

    there is a reason there are two groups of people in the world today who’re being systematically marginalized and colonized and demonized

    because the Jewish supremacist$ have slated them for genocide

    white males of European ancestry and Palestinian Arabs

    at least the woman and girls of Palestine are still on the side of their menfolk, but then perhaps the Jewish supremacists will eventually introduce feminism to Palestine, and destroy that bond too.

    isn’t it ironic that it’s in those places (Nordic nations in particular) where the men have valiantly raised up their womenfolk to an exalted state of equality to their men (and beyond), that the Nordic men are singled out as being bigots and racists and congenitally unworthy as vile human beings for their toxic maleness…

    that they’re rewarded for their chivalry by having their women, now in charge, flood their nations with backward young men from primitive cultures who consider women second class citizens at best?

    irony, irony, irony

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  361. Samsonak says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Because a war would most likely involve attack by Iran on Saudi Arabia (oil) and Israel.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  362. @Rurik

    Israel announces deal to resettle African migrants in West
    Associated Press
    JOSEF FEDERMAN
    ,Associated Press•April 2, 2018

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-deal-reached-resettle-african-migrants-west-114910255.html

    In all, the United Nations will resettle about 16,250 people, while Israel will absorb the same number. “A committee will be formed in order to identify them and find agreed solutions,” Ben-Shabbat said.

    Shlomo Mor-Yosef, a senior official at Israel’s Interior Ministry, said migrants would be absorbed throughout the European Union, as well as in Canada and the United States.

    As part of the framework, Israel said it would invest in a plan to rehabilitate and develop affected neighborhoods in Tel Aviv, while also resettling African migrants elsewhere in the country.

    The U.N. refugee agency said it signed a framework of common understanding “to promote solutions for thousands of Eritreans and Sudanese living in Israel.” The UNHCR said it will work to relocate about 16,000 Sudanese and Eritrean nationals and that others will receive “suitable legal status in Israel.”

  363. geokat62 says:

    Here is a recent tweet by Luke Ford, an Anglo who converted to Orthodox Judaism:

    In his tweet, he links to an article of his, Every Major American Jewish Organization… Supports Immigration Amnesty

    Here are a few of the more pertinent excerpts:

    One day the goyim might wake up and hate Jews because of the traitorous behavior of these leading Jewish organizations…

    In effect, these Jewish organizations stand for ethnocentrism for us (i.e., Jewry), multiculturalism for you (i.e., The Dumb Goyim).

    When it comes to these Jewish organizations, the following seems to fit a disturbing amount of the time:

    – If their lips move, they’re lying
    – If quiet: they’re stealing
    – If marching: it’s in a parade of gays
    – If in court: it’s to bear false witness
    – If with immigration: it’s to open our borders
    – If with the NAACP: it’s to exploit the emotions of black people
    – If with the SPLC: it’s the same thing
    – If with the ACLU: Same thing, again

    http://lukeford.net/blog/?p=58725

    Organizations he listed:

    [MORE]

    National Organizations
    American Forum of Russian Jewry (AFRJ)
    American Jewish Committee
    Anti‐Defamation League
    Bend the Arc: A Jewish Partnership for Justice
    B’nai B’rith International
    Bukharian Jewish Congress of the USA and Canada
    HIAS (Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society)
    Jewish Council on Public Affairs
    Jewish Federations of North America
    Keshet
    National Council of Jewish Women
    Orthodox Union
    Rabbinical Assembly
    Reconstructionist Rabbinical College
    Tikkun Olam Commission of the Jewish Reconstructionist Movement
    T’ruah: The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights
    Union for Reform Judaism
    Uri L’Tzedek
    Women of Reform Judaism

    Local Organizations
    AJC Cincinnati
    AJC Cleveland
    AJC Houston
    AJC Los Angeles
    AJC New York
    AJC Philadelphia/Southern New Jersey
    Anti‐Defamation League of Eastern PA and Southern NJ
    Congregation Meor Hachaim of Luna Park (New York, NY)
    FEGS Health & Human Services (New York, NY)
    Greater Philadelphia Jewish Coalition on Immigration
    HIAS Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, PA)
    Indianapolis Jewish Community Relations Council
    Jewish Alliance for Law and Social Action (Boston, MA)
    Jewish Community Action (St. Paul, MN)
    Jewish Community Center at Starrett City (New York, NY)
    Jewish Community Relations Council of Philadelphia
    Jewish Council on Urban Affairs (Chicago, IL)
    Jewish Family & Career Services (Atlanta, GA)
    Jewish Family & Children’s Service (Pittsburgh, PA)
    Jewish Family & Children’s Services of the East Bay (Berkeley, CA)
    Jewish Family Service of Buffalo & Erie County New York
    Jewish Family Service of Western Massachusetts, Inc.
    Jewish Family Services (Ann Arbor, MI)
    Jewish Labor Committee Western Region (Los Angeles, CA)
    Jewish Social Policy Action Network (Philadelphia, PA)
    Jewish Vocational Service of MetroWest (East Orange, NJ)
    Jews for Racial & Economic Justice (New York, NY)
    Massachusetts Board of Rabbis (Newton, MA)
    National Council of Jewish Women ‐ Greater Philadelphia
    National Council of Jewish Women Texas State Policy Advocates
    UJA‐Federation of New York
    Women of Vision (Philadelphia, PA)

  364. @Samsonak

    Iran has repeatedly warned that if attacked it will close the Straights of Hormuz which are used to transport much greater volumes of crude than just Iran’s. I would’ve thought that this knowledge would’ve been well known by one with such a great mind as that of the Whiz.

  365. ro says:

    let’s not forget Chuck Schumer.

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