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One of the most discouraging aspects of the musical chairs being played among the members of the White House inner circle is that every change reflects an inexorable move to the right in foreign policy, which means that the interventionists are back without anyone at the White House level remaining to say “no.” President Donald Trump, for all his international experience as a businessman, is a novice at the step-by-step process required in diplomacy and in the development of a coherent foreign policy, so he is inevitably being directed by individuals who have long American global leadership by force if necessary.

The resurgence of the hawks is facilitated by Donald Trump’s own inclinations. He likes to see himself as a man of action and a leader, which inclines him to be impulsive, some might even say reckless. He is convinced that he can enter into negotiations with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un with virtually no preparations and make a deal that will somehow end the crisis over that nation’s nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs, for example. In so doing, he is being encouraged by his National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and his Pentagon chief James Mattis, who believe that the United States can somehow prevail in a preemptive war with the Koreans if that should become necessary. The enormous collateral damage to South Korea and even Japan is something that Washington planners somehow seem to miss in their calculations.

The recent shifts in the cabinet have Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State. A leading hawk, he was first in his class of 1986 at the United States Military Academy but found himself as a junior officer with no real war to fight. He spent six years in uniform before resigning, never having seen combat, making war an abstraction for him. He went to Harvard Law and then into politics where he became a Tea Party congressman, eventually becoming a leader of that caucus when it stopped being Libertarian and lurched rightwards. He has since marketed himself as a fearless soldier in the war against terrorism and rogue states, in which category he includes both Iran and Russia.

Pompeo was not popular at the CIA because he enforced a uniformity of thinking that was anathema for intelligence professionals dedicated to collecting solid information and using it to produce sound analysis of developments worldwide. Pompeo, an ardent supporter of Israel and one of the government’s leading Iran haters, has been regularly threatening Iran while at the Agency and will no doubt find plenty of support at State from Assistant Secretary of State for the Near East David Satterfield, a former top adviser of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Pompeo has proven himself more than willing to manipulate intelligence produce the result he desires. Last year, he declassified and then cherry picked documents recovered from Osama bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan that suggested that al-Qaeda had ties with Iran. The move was coordinated with simultaneous White House steps to prepare Congress and the public for a withdrawal from the Iran nuclear arms agreement. The documents were initially released to a journal produced by the neocon Foundation for Defense of Democracies, where Pompeo has a number of times spoken, to guarantee wide exposure in all the right places.

Pompeo’s arrival might only be the first of several other high-level moves by the White House. Like the rumors that preceded the firing of Secretary of State Tillerson two weeks ago, there have been recurrent suggestions that McMaster will be the next to go as he reportedly is too moderate for the president and has also been accused of being anti-Israeli, the kiss of death in Washington. Former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton has been a frequent visitor at the White House and it is believed that he is the preferred candidate to fill the position. He is an extreme hawk, closely tied to the Israel Lobby, who would push hard for war against Iran and also for a hardline position in Syria, one that could lead to direct confrontation with the Syrian Armed Forces and possibly the Russians.

Bolton, who has been described by a former George W. Bush official as “the most dangerous man we had during the entire eight years,” will undoubtedly have a problem in getting confirmed by Congress. He was rejected as U.N. Ambassador, requiring Bush to make a recess appointment which did not need Congressional approval.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Perfectly prescient.

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  2. Why go out with a whimper when you can go out with a bang?

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    • Replies: @Moi
    That would be our choice--but we've no business taking the rest with us.
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  3. Bolton, who has been described by a former George W. Bush official as “the most dangerous man we had during the entire eight years,” will undoubtedly have a problem in getting confirmed by Congress.

    The position that Bolton has been appointed to, National Security Advisor, does not need confirmation by Congress.

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  4. nickels says:

    Starting to feel like facism.

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  5. Sean says:

    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam–backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton’s appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    "After Iran is taken out of the equation,"

    Oh, yes. Easy-peasey. You probably actually think that the US military could invade Iran and defeat the Iranian military on its own ground. You're also ignoring the probability that Russian forces would be involved if US troops invaded Iran.

    Your silly statement, "After Iran is taken out of the equation," sounds like that Steve Martin routine "You can be a millionaire and never pay taxes". Step one is "First, get a million dollars."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXmQW_aqBks
    , @Anatoly Karlin

    After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned.
     
    Wouldn't seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]. Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.

    And I don't think a war is going to rile up support, at least without a really convincing false flag.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You lead your readers to scepticism when you refer the British "liquidating the ethnic Chinese in Malaya" as it is such a gross exaggeration. Indeed Chinese (mostly brought in as cheap labour for the rubber plantations I guess) were the backbone of the Communist insurgency in Malaya but I am surprised you suggest that the situation was anything like that in South Vietnam. Source? Evidence? (I remember wondering why the lessons of the Malayan insurgency couldn't be applied in Vietnam. I suspect that part of the reason wss that separating loyal or indifferent ethnic Vietnamese peasants from ethnically distinct terrorists and insurgents was precluded by the demographic reality).
    , @Iberiano
    My question is, presuming you are right, and I think you might be, does this now mean Trump is LIKELY to win in 2020 (full backing of the elites/Israel) and a wall may actually be built at some point? Or just more influx of illegals AND we are assisting Israel in their expansion.
    , @KA
    Just one man ? Just this guy McMaster was standing between Iran and USA? In that case , a coup has already taken place . The coup master must be embedded,active,and always bidding for the perfect dispensable man to do their bidding . By dispensable, I mean the death of person like Litiivenko and the double agent in Salisbury on 3 rd March . Bolton should be careful for his own life . Once the job is done the coup club will throw him under the bus blame NK or China or Russia and plan war again, using another stupid careerist corrupt ambitious dog . May God help Bolton .
    , @anon
    Forward "(JTA) — Jewish organizations sparred over the views of H.R. McMaster, the national security advisor, with the Zionist Organization of America attacking him as anti-Israel and the American Jewish Committee defending him.

    ZOA, one of the few Jewish organizations to consistently defend President Trump, issued a report on Thursday sharply critical of McMaster.

    In the report, ZOA claims that McMaster is undermining Trump’s Middle East agenda and the relationship between the United States and Israel by firing officials supportive of the Jewish state and critical of the Iran nuclear deal, including Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the hawkish former senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council.

    The report calls on Trump “to remove General McMaster from his current position and reassign him to another position where he can do no further harm on these critical national security issues.”

    Dan Shapiro, who served as ambassador to Israel under President Barack Obama, and the American Jewish Committee criticized the ZOA report.

    “ZOA claims, on the flimsiest of pretexts that McMaster has ‘animus toward Israel’ and ‘opposes Trump’s pro-Israel policies’,” Shapiro tweeted. “Nonsense. Every Israeli official who met McMaster has found him to be deeply sympathetic, friendly, consistent with longstanding U.S. support for Israel.”

    Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/379615/jewish-groups-spar-over-trump-national-security-adviser-mcmaster-s-israel-r/"

    shows the most radical among the Jewish population and among the leaders of the population always win . This pattern has an unbroken record from 1917 . Then the radical fanatics destructive philosophy becomes mainstream in one or one and half decades.

    , @Sin City Milla
    The US was not defeated in Korea by China but held back by the very real threat of Soviet invasion. China was the left arm of the Soviets at the time n Stalin had his stronger right arm Red Army ready to intervene if China got in trouble, which would have rapidly forced a total US defeat n evacuation. China could never have resisted the US without massive Soviet military support n advisors, n only massive clandestine Soviet support allowed the Chinese military to survive its war in Korea.

    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.
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  6. The prescient Gerald Celente has always said that there is no wilder card than the Trump card. Adding a deranged Jhon Bolton to the White House team will make the place more like a cocktail Molotov rather than a wild card.
    Russia is being cornered by false unproven allegations by the UK in a false flag poisoning attack on an ex double agent that aims at intimidating Russia into submission by the Western Powers That Be. The problem is that Russia might simply resist; can we assume that the Western powers have a plan B that does not involve a nuclear confrontation.
    Stay tuned folks for we are indeed living in interesting times.

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    The two double agents deserve death. They are responsible for the death of lots of people. They are not even dead.
    The "expulsion show" indicates how desperate the anti-Russians are as they must resort to small dirty tricks to prevent Russia to take a larger importance in the world. Russia's success in Syria is making France, the UK and the USA grind their teeth. They must hit Russia in any way possible as they look more and more impotent in front of the ways events in the ME are going exactly to the opposite to what they have been working on for 7 years, thanks to Russia and Iran
    Any pretext is good to affirm that the colonial powers are still in charge....
    It is a stab in the water... they'll have to quickly find something else, but they seem short of new events to blame on Russia
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  7. Sean says:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/20/russian-agents-learn-litvinenko-errors-devise-hit-sergei-skripal/

    Russian intelligence learnt from the Alexander Litvinenko murder to devise a near perfect assassination method that has left British police still puzzled over how Sergei and Yulia Skripal were poisoned.

    British authorities are increasingly convinced that Colonel Skripal was exposed to nerve agent planted in the luggage of his daughter Yulia who was visiting from Moscow.

    Bastards!

    The UK could not care less about Russia, the UK has been pushed into a corner by the second poisoning of a former FSB man living in England within a few years.

    Russians have historically been comparatively poor but comforted by a image of their country as a force to be reckoned with internationally. Putin is an extreme version of that, and he is baiting the UK and the West now to get back to old days when Russia was isolated and hated superpower inhabited by proud paupers. The only thing Putin fears is that his country will become progressively more affluent and friendly with the West and, once he leaves power, seduced into forgetting its self imposed historical mission of greatness.

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    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    You are # 1 in my line up. Congratulations!
    So Father took daughter to restaurant and in the restaurant she opened her luggage and that automatically did spray her father. They did not notice anything so they went to park to take a nap.
    Absolutely brilliant .
    BTW How old you are?
    , @Wally
    Except there is no proof that the Russians poisoned them.

    Brits refuse to give anyone a sample, which is mandated by international agreement.

    No one else in the area was hurt by an alleged chemical that would have necessarily poisoned the surrounding area.

    The doctors on the scene said that could see no physical signs of poisoning.

    The alleged victims have curiously disappeared.

    Coincidentally, no doubt, the biggest Brit chemical weapons lab is a just a few miles down the road.

    more: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/03/no_author/russian-scientists-explain-novichok-high-time-for-britain-to-come-clean/

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  8. @Sean
    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam--backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton's appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

    “After Iran is taken out of the equation,”

    Oh, yes. Easy-peasey. You probably actually think that the US military could invade Iran and defeat the Iranian military on its own ground. You’re also ignoring the probability that Russian forces would be involved if US troops invaded Iran.

    Your silly statement, “After Iran is taken out of the equation,” sounds like that Steve Martin routine “You can be a millionaire and never pay taxes”. Step one is “First, get a million dollars.”

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    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.
    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.
    If the story is true, attacking Iran will be the end of Israel, not of Iran.
    I sometimes wonder if Iran would like a nuclear attack, to justify wiping Israel off the map.
    , @Anon
    Sean is either a very clever hasbara agent or a very stupid boomer. This guy is nuts
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  9. anonymous[323] • Disclaimer says:

    For Bolton to be appointed is an ominous sign. The war hawks are gathering, casting an increasingly dark shadow. A person like Bolton is an incompetent ideologue likely to lead the US into a disaster. Trump is now betraying his base who were tired of the numerous wars everywhere. The apparent target is Iran, a country of 80M people. The US is at present an internal balancing act that could easily become unstable by something like a costly military adventure that spirals into a major loss.

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    • Replies: @Erebus

    The US is at present an internal balancing act that could easily become unstable by something like a costly military adventure that spirals into a major loss.
     
    Naw. Bolton and Pompeo will be allowed, even encouraged to bark like mad dogs, but I can't believe that the Pentagon will acquiesce to go to war for them. Their wind will dissipate faster after they've run up against reality a few times.
    I think they've been set up to run straight into it. As the flag-bearers for the hawkish end of the American spectrum, they're immune from criticism even when they are forced to back down and become doves. With that, they too can be summarily fired and the whole Neocon dream will just fade away with them.
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  10. utu says:

    Who is really whispering to Trump’s ear? I do not think it’s Kelly behind getting rid of Tillerson and McMaster. The Zionist rug Breitbart kept whining about McMaster for a long time. And the same Zionist rug kept bitching about Kushner but it must be Kushner and Ivanka who have access to Trump’s ear. Who talks to Kushner? His dad who knows all the crooks in Israel, right?

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    • Replies: @renfro
    Who is really whispering to Trump’s ear?..you ask?


    I know people don't like simple answers, they want things to be more complicated and to require all kinds of theorizing about motivations, game plans, chess playing and etc..
    But the answer to this is simple.
    The uber Jewish Sheldon Adelson was the largest donor to Trump exceeding 70 million including PACs, Adelson is the largest donor to Niiki Haley, over half of her donations, Adelson also pays Bolton as a go between and agent for Israel.
    Yes, the old 'follow the money' is boring but 99.99% true.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-a-john-bolton-appointment-is-scarier-than-you-think-mcmaster-trump/

    ''More than anyone else inside or outside the Trump administration, Bolton has already influenced Trump to tear up the Iran nuclear deal. Bolton parlayed his connection with the primary financier behind both Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump himself—the militantly Zionist casino magnate Sheldon Adelson—to get Trump’s ear last October, just as the president was preparing to announce his policy on the Iran nuclear agreement, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). He spoke with Trump by phone from Las Vegas after meeting with Adelson.

    It was Bolton who persuaded Trump to commit to specific language pledging to pull out of the JCPOA if Congress and America’s European allies did not go along with demands for major changes that were clearly calculated to ensure the deal would fall apart. ''

    At the very moment that Powell was saying administration policy was not to attack Iran, Bolton was working with the Israelis to lay the groundwork for just such a war. During a February 2003 visit, Bolton assured Israeli officials in private meetings (https://www.haaretz.com/1.4904696) that he had no doubt the United States would attack Iraq, and that after taking down Saddam, it would deal with Iran, too, as well as Syria.

    During multiple trips to Israel, Bolton had unannounced meetings, including with the head of Mossad, Meir Dagan, without the usual reporting cable to the secretary of state and other relevant offices. Judging from that report on an early Bolton visit, those meetings clearly dealt with a joint strategy on how to bring about political conditions for an eventual U.S. strike against Iran.''

    The U.S.-Israeli strategy would later hit the jackpot, however, when a large cache of documents supposedly from a covert source within Iran’s nuclear weapons program surfaced in autumn 2004. The documents, allegedly found on the laptop computer of one of the participants, included technical drawings of a series of efforts to redesign Iran’s Shahab-3 missile to carry what appeared to be a nuclear weapon.

    But the whole story of the so-called “laptop documents” was a fabrication. In 2013, a former senior German official revealed the true story to this writer: the documents had been given to German intelligence by the Mujahedin E Khalq,(MEK) the anti-Iran armed group that was well known to have been used by Mossad to “launder” information the Israelis did not want attributed to themselves. Furthermore, the drawings showing the redesign that were cited as proof of a nuclear weapons program were clearly done by someone who didn’t know that Iran had already abandoned the Shahab-3’s nose cone for an entirely different design''
     
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  11. We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is. The geopolitical consequences of a war with Iran would be enormous. The price of oil would skyrocket to north of $200/bbl and the the major nations of the world (e.g. Russia, China) would be forced to intervene to secure some sort of global stability. Before it was all over, the global economy will have tanked and millions of people would be dead, including many innocents.

    I simply cannot believe the deliberate and artful precision with which the USA is lining up the dominoes of its own destruction. It really is uncanny.

    Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future. He may eke out another presidential term if the Dems decide to run a flaming Leftist like Kamala Harris, but his magic is gone. Trump’s political capital is not only spent, it is deep in arrears with no hope of repayment. The Teflon Don has become the Bankrupt Buffoon, and sadly that is how he will be remembered.

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    Great analysis.
    May be Trump is trying to bluff his way into getting a deal on North Korea and Iran. The problem is that the Isrealis might outmanoeuvre him and force his hand into a full confrontation with Iran at which point your scenario will become reality.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Can you explain the cause and effect by which war on and in Iran sends the price of oil above $200 a barrel? Certainly there could, probably would be an immediate jump in price as some buyers bid the price up to ensure they had reserves but I can't see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.
    , @Corvinus
    "We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is...Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future."

    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer's remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?

    Is the mask finally coming off of Trump for even his most ardent supporters to realize he is not a "God-Emperor"?

    Or will Trump magically "reinvent himself", with his shills and toadies once again screeching in unison "MAGA"?
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  12. @Sean

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/20/russian-agents-learn-litvinenko-errors-devise-hit-sergei-skripal/

    Russian intelligence learnt from the Alexander Litvinenko murder to devise a near perfect assassination method that has left British police still puzzled over how Sergei and Yulia Skripal were poisoned.

    British authorities are increasingly convinced that Colonel Skripal was exposed to nerve agent planted in the luggage of his daughter Yulia who was visiting from Moscow.
     

    Bastards!


    The UK could not care less about Russia, the UK has been pushed into a corner by the second poisoning of a former FSB man living in England within a few years.

    Russians have historically been comparatively poor but comforted by a image of their country as a force to be reckoned with internationally. Putin is an extreme version of that, and he is baiting the UK and the West now to get back to old days when Russia was isolated and hated superpower inhabited by proud paupers. The only thing Putin fears is that his country will become progressively more affluent and friendly with the West and, once he leaves power, seduced into forgetting its self imposed historical mission of greatness.

    You are # 1 in my line up. Congratulations!
    So Father took daughter to restaurant and in the restaurant she opened her luggage and that automatically did spray her father. They did not notice anything so they went to park to take a nap.
    Absolutely brilliant .
    BTW How old you are?

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    • Replies: @Sean
    The explanation from Russia is that the nerve gas came from the British defence lab Porton Down which is not very far from where the poisoning took place. Unlike certain countries where people get drunk and cause nuclear power station catastrophes or almost start WW3 over Norwegian weather research (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident) we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us against them and was swapped for Anna Chapman, not unless we never want anyone to work for us again, eh? Proof beyond reasonable doubt does not mean there is no chance of a mistake anyway, but it is much more likely than anything else that the Russian state did it on Putin's orders. Skripal was branded a 'traitor' and a 'bastard' on state TV in Russia, so them playing the innocent again won't work. Not again .
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  13. renfro says:
    @utu
    Who is really whispering to Trump's ear? I do not think it's Kelly behind getting rid of Tillerson and McMaster. The Zionist rug Breitbart kept whining about McMaster for a long time. And the same Zionist rug kept bitching about Kushner but it must be Kushner and Ivanka who have access to Trump's ear. Who talks to Kushner? His dad who knows all the crooks in Israel, right?

    Who is really whispering to Trump’s ear?..you ask?

    I know people don’t like simple answers, they want things to be more complicated and to require all kinds of theorizing about motivations, game plans, chess playing and etc..
    But the answer to this is simple.
    The uber Jewish Sheldon Adelson was the largest donor to Trump exceeding 70 million including PACs, Adelson is the largest donor to Niiki Haley, over half of her donations, Adelson also pays Bolton as a go between and agent for Israel.
    Yes, the old ‘follow the money’ is boring but 99.99% true.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-a-john-bolton-appointment-is-scarier-than-you-think-mcmaster-trump/

    ”More than anyone else inside or outside the Trump administration, Bolton has already influenced Trump to tear up the Iran nuclear deal. Bolton parlayed his connection with the primary financier behind both Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump himself—the militantly Zionist casino magnate Sheldon Adelson—to get Trump’s ear last October, just as the president was preparing to announce his policy on the Iran nuclear agreement, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). He spoke with Trump by phone from Las Vegas after meeting with Adelson.

    It was Bolton who persuaded Trump to commit to specific language pledging to pull out of the JCPOA if Congress and America’s European allies did not go along with demands for major changes that were clearly calculated to ensure the deal would fall apart. ”

    At the very moment that Powell was saying administration policy was not to attack Iran, Bolton was working with the Israelis to lay the groundwork for just such a war. During a February 2003 visit, Bolton assured Israeli officials in private meetings (https://www.haaretz.com/1.4904696) that he had no doubt the United States would attack Iraq, and that after taking down Saddam, it would deal with Iran, too, as well as Syria.

    During multiple trips to Israel, Bolton had unannounced meetings, including with the head of Mossad, Meir Dagan, without the usual reporting cable to the secretary of state and other relevant offices. Judging from that report on an early Bolton visit, those meetings clearly dealt with a joint strategy on how to bring about political conditions for an eventual U.S. strike against Iran.”

    The U.S.-Israeli strategy would later hit the jackpot, however, when a large cache of documents supposedly from a covert source within Iran’s nuclear weapons program surfaced in autumn 2004. The documents, allegedly found on the laptop computer of one of the participants, included technical drawings of a series of efforts to redesign Iran’s Shahab-3 missile to carry what appeared to be a nuclear weapon.

    But the whole story of the so-called “laptop documents” was a fabrication. In 2013, a former senior German official revealed the true story to this writer: the documents had been given to German intelligence by the Mujahedin E Khalq,(MEK) the anti-Iran armed group that was well known to have been used by Mossad to “launder” information the Israelis did not want attributed to themselves. Furthermore, the drawings showing the redesign that were cited as proof of a nuclear weapons program were clearly done by someone who didn’t know that Iran had already abandoned the Shahab-3’s nose cone for an entirely different design”

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  14. renfro says:

    I wonder if anyone here is going to start defending Trump with the absurd…’he’s playing 3 dimensional chess’…or the excuse that he’s ‘keeping his friends close but his enemies closer’.

    Thy need to realize that Trump is the swamp and he is scrapping the bottom of the swamp and bringing the psychopathic swamp slime of Bolton and Gina Haspel into his adm.

    I hope Mueller nails his ass and little Kushner’s on something—they should be gotten out of the WH.
    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.

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    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Z-man

    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.
     
    I wouldn't be so sure about that, he's as close as you wanna get to a Christian Zionist being in the White House
    , @Rurik

    ’he’s playing 3 dimensional chess’
     
    my last hope was that Bolton would have to pass a Senate confirmation that he wouldn't get. But National Security Advisor requires no confirmation. So Bolton (and war with Iran) are a certainty, as far as I can see.

    It's over.

    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.
     
    God help us but I think you're mistaken about that.

    Trump is a whore, but Pence is a true believer. Pence wants to force the Second Coming, and that means the Apocalypse, and the Tribulation, and all that other psychotic, biblical insanity.

    Please keep in mind that the Zionists consider WWII as their greatest triumph. 65+ million goyim souls slaughtered horrifically, often by burning alive! You can't get more Old Testament triumphal vengeance than that!

    And all these wars in the Middle East that leave entire nations utterly in ruins.. With their people in shock at the death and carnage and utter despair.. ..are all things that Zionists (and their Christian concubines like Pence) gush over. As the world and all people with a shred of morality or decency, reel from the slaughter-fest, horrified - the Zionists, (just like the dancing Israelis on 9/11 or the cackling war hag over the lynching of Gadhafi) are beside themselves with self-satisfied, ebullient glee. Literally unable to contain their elation.

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/01/F180122HP16-640x400.jpg

    http://blackchristiannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/hagee-pence-cui.jpg

    As bad as Trump is, and has turned out to be, with the dead giveaway by appointing zio-scum Bolton, I suspect that true-believer Pence, would be even worse.
    , @Twodees Partain
    As bad as Trump is, Pence is worse. Pence is as crazy as Bolton, but he keeps his mouth shut most of the time. Pence was intended as Impeachment insurance for Trump, or at least that was the talk back when he was picked.

    I don't want to see Trump impeached, simply because the democrats shouldn't ever be allowed to get more power than they have now.

    , @Moi
    No, Trump is not the swamp--he is the swamp creature.
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  15. The Neocon Jews and their Suckmongers like Bolton have won again. It took just over a year for them to take over. Jared Kushner appears to be a Jewish plant reading the daily intelligence briefings that Trump didn’t want to read and furnishing the info to his Israeli friends as well as the Saudi Royals who are nothing more than Jewish whores.

    Israel has never defined their borders and they never will. They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

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    They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.
     
    I already used my "AGREE" button.
    , @Seamus Padraig
    Actually, Israel has indeed defined its borders: The Euphrates in the East, and the Nile in the West.

    http://truerichesacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/images/greater-israel-pitn-upclose.jpg
    , @Z-man

    Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.
     
    Yes sad.
    Take a look at this. https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2018/03/08/us-israel-prepare-to-train-for-joint-missile-defense-ops/
    At the end of a follow up article in the same publication the stupid colored American General says that when hostilities take place we will be taking our orders from the Israelis. Sickening!
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  16. @Sean
    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam--backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton's appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

    After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned.

    Wouldn’t seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]. Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.

    And I don’t think a war is going to rile up support, at least without a really convincing false flag.

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    Wouldn’t seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]
     
    According to what predictions? The Demokratz are even more bankrupt than the Republitards, the Senate will stay where it is and the Dems will gain in the house but not win it. It's all local.

    Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.
     
    There's still nobody and I mean NOBODY from the other side that can take Trump on. Biden? Don't make me laugh. If a shining star comes out of nowhere within the next 18 months fine but I strongly doubt that happens.
    , @Sean
    Bolton is a clear sign that the time is upon us. Approval for Trump may or may not be understated by polling. Nonetheless an attack on Iran can split the Dems from their Lobby supporters on foreign policy and the appointment of Bolton has already hurt their financing I suspect. Israel has to do the population transfer. I agree if it looks like Trump is going to be badly defeated they won't take the risk (though they'll be sorry in the long run).
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  17. @Intelligent Dasein
    We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is. The geopolitical consequences of a war with Iran would be enormous. The price of oil would skyrocket to north of $200/bbl and the the major nations of the world (e.g. Russia, China) would be forced to intervene to secure some sort of global stability. Before it was all over, the global economy will have tanked and millions of people would be dead, including many innocents.

    I simply cannot believe the deliberate and artful precision with which the USA is lining up the dominoes of its own destruction. It really is uncanny.

    Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future. He may eke out another presidential term if the Dems decide to run a flaming Leftist like Kamala Harris, but his magic is gone. Trump's political capital is not only spent, it is deep in arrears with no hope of repayment. The Teflon Don has become the Bankrupt Buffoon, and sadly that is how he will be remembered.

    Great analysis.
    May be Trump is trying to bluff his way into getting a deal on North Korea and Iran. The problem is that the Isrealis might outmanoeuvre him and force his hand into a full confrontation with Iran at which point your scenario will become reality.

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  18. Can it be that Trump does not want to end as Kennedy ?

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    Can it be that Trump does not want to end as Kennedy ?

     

    No doubt about that. The guy is so vulnerable in so many ways that it isn't funny.

    He (and Hillary) have to be among the most stupid people on the planet. At their ages why would they want the job?
    , @Seamus Padraig
    That thought has crossed my mind, too.
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  19. @Twodees Partain
    "After Iran is taken out of the equation,"

    Oh, yes. Easy-peasey. You probably actually think that the US military could invade Iran and defeat the Iranian military on its own ground. You're also ignoring the probability that Russian forces would be involved if US troops invaded Iran.

    Your silly statement, "After Iran is taken out of the equation," sounds like that Steve Martin routine "You can be a millionaire and never pay taxes". Step one is "First, get a million dollars."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXmQW_aqBks

    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.
    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.
    If the story is true, attacking Iran will be the end of Israel, not of Iran.
    I sometimes wonder if Iran would like a nuclear attack, to justify wiping Israel off the map.

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    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.
     
    Maybe a sleeping Chtulhu?

    To make this nuclear-weapon proof, it would have to be pretty deep. Even the US doesn't go that far.


    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.
     
    Many things are said. Some say the US has Alien Technology that they obtained from a Saucer crash back when Roswell was big. Doesn't make it true.
    , @Twodees Partain
    Regardless of that kind of rumor, Iran has a strong military that would be very hard to defeat on its own ground. If Iran was beatable in a conventional ground war, the US military would likely have been sent in long ago. There have been more credible (but still false) pretexts for attacking Iran before and it hasn't been ordered.

    The IDF wouldn't last long against the Iranian Army. In fact, the IDF isn't up to much anyway. That's probably why the Israelis have been hoping to get the US to fight Iran for them.
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  20. Anon[613] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "After Iran is taken out of the equation,"

    Oh, yes. Easy-peasey. You probably actually think that the US military could invade Iran and defeat the Iranian military on its own ground. You're also ignoring the probability that Russian forces would be involved if US troops invaded Iran.

    Your silly statement, "After Iran is taken out of the equation," sounds like that Steve Martin routine "You can be a millionaire and never pay taxes". Step one is "First, get a million dollars."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXmQW_aqBks

    Sean is either a very clever hasbara agent or a very stupid boomer. This guy is nuts

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  21. Erebus says:
    @anonymous
    For Bolton to be appointed is an ominous sign. The war hawks are gathering, casting an increasingly dark shadow. A person like Bolton is an incompetent ideologue likely to lead the US into a disaster. Trump is now betraying his base who were tired of the numerous wars everywhere. The apparent target is Iran, a country of 80M people. The US is at present an internal balancing act that could easily become unstable by something like a costly military adventure that spirals into a major loss.

    The US is at present an internal balancing act that could easily become unstable by something like a costly military adventure that spirals into a major loss.

    Naw. Bolton and Pompeo will be allowed, even encouraged to bark like mad dogs, but I can’t believe that the Pentagon will acquiesce to go to war for them. Their wind will dissipate faster after they’ve run up against reality a few times.
    I think they’ve been set up to run straight into it. As the flag-bearers for the hawkish end of the American spectrum, they’re immune from criticism even when they are forced to back down and become doves. With that, they too can be summarily fired and the whole Neocon dream will just fade away with them.

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    Sounds plausible in today's mad America. I hope you are right.
    , @JoaoAlfaiate
    I sure hope there is another "Fox" Fallon out there somewhere but I wouldn't bet on it.
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  22. Bolton’s deep state ‘circle’

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2018/03/23/john-bolton/

    (info-satire)

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  23. Realist says:

    Trumps phony act about vetoing the spending bill was so transparent as to be laughable. The buffoon is truly an asshat. It was to mollify his base.
    It was first obviously to me that Trump was a dickhead in human clothes about this time last year. And I voted for him….so sorry. Too many of his supporters have been making excuses for him since.

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    The buffoon is truly an asshat. It was to mollify his base.
     
    I suspect the tariff issue is an attempt to mollify them as well. Behind closed doors it'll be business as usual.

    Casting ballots is for suckers.
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  24. @Sean
    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam--backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton's appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

    You lead your readers to scepticism when you refer the British “liquidating the ethnic Chinese in Malaya” as it is such a gross exaggeration. Indeed Chinese (mostly brought in as cheap labour for the rubber plantations I guess) were the backbone of the Communist insurgency in Malaya but I am surprised you suggest that the situation was anything like that in South Vietnam. Source? Evidence? (I remember wondering why the lessons of the Malayan insurgency couldn’t be applied in Vietnam. I suspect that part of the reason wss that separating loyal or indifferent ethnic Vietnamese peasants from ethnically distinct terrorists and insurgents was precluded by the demographic reality).

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    The Malaysian Chinese were brought in by the Jap army mainly, and the British put them into concentration camps and then expelled them.

    https://law.yale.edu/yls-today/news/professor-amy-chua-publishes-book-political-tribes
    Chua devotes a chapter of her book examining the Vietnam War. Viewing the war through a Cold War communist-versus-capitalist lens, Chua argues, the U.S. completely missed the ethnic dimension of that conflict, which to this day remains almost completely unknown. Inside Vietnam, a deeply resented one percent ethnic Chinese minority controlled as much as 80 percent of the country’s commercial wealth. In other words, a vastly disproportionate number of Vietnam’s “capitalists” were seen as exploitative outsiders, despised by the Vietnamese, both northern and southern. Because we overlooked the ethnic side of the conflict, Chua writes, the U.S. failed to see that every pro-capitalist step it took in Vietnam only inflamed popular resentment. And the United States has persisted in this group blindness abroad, contributing directly to the debacles in Iraq, Venezuela, and Afghanistan.

     

    As in so many places the clever minority were disproportionately dominant in everything they did. Accordingly in south Vietnam, younger Chinese joined the gorillas to a notable extent and made up a high proportion of the VC, especially in command structure (eliminated in the Tet Offensive). Saigon's Chinese district was notoriously dangerous for GIs .

    Ethnic Chinese were all kicked out as the Boat People of course. McMaster wrote a book about the failure of civilian leadership to understand what was needed in the Vietnam war but he failed to grasp the constraints in Nam, because the proven proclivity of the Chinese for intervention (eg in Korea) meant that the US was chary about what might provoke China, and they would never have allowed a Phoenix Program against ethnic Chinese as such. Anyway, expulsion works

    https://www.vdare.com/articles/is-population-transfer-the-solution-to-the-palestinian-problem-and-some-others

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  25. While disconcerting –

    one day at a time.

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  26. @Intelligent Dasein
    We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is. The geopolitical consequences of a war with Iran would be enormous. The price of oil would skyrocket to north of $200/bbl and the the major nations of the world (e.g. Russia, China) would be forced to intervene to secure some sort of global stability. Before it was all over, the global economy will have tanked and millions of people would be dead, including many innocents.

    I simply cannot believe the deliberate and artful precision with which the USA is lining up the dominoes of its own destruction. It really is uncanny.

    Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future. He may eke out another presidential term if the Dems decide to run a flaming Leftist like Kamala Harris, but his magic is gone. Trump's political capital is not only spent, it is deep in arrears with no hope of repayment. The Teflon Don has become the Bankrupt Buffoon, and sadly that is how he will be remembered.

    Can you explain the cause and effect by which war on and in Iran sends the price of oil above $200 a barrel? Certainly there could, probably would be an immediate jump in price as some buyers bid the price up to ensure they had reserves but I can’t see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.

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    There would rapidly be a total withdrawal of Saudi output, too. With Russia embargoed, will this do?
    , @Randal
    War with Iran (assuming it's more than a brief exchange, and leads to serious conflict) threatens oils supplies directly from: Saudi Arabia (joint biggest producer in the world), Iran (5th), Iraq (4th), UAE (8th), and Kuwait (9th). And bear in mind that the 3rd biggest (US) uses most of its own production itself, and the other joint biggest (Russia) uses quite a lot of its own production as well.

    On top of that, such a war will create massive global uncertainty, which tends to spike prices of strategic commodities such as oil anyway.

    A big hike in the price seems inevitable.
    , @Intelligent Dasein

    but I can’t see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.
     
    We're not talking about Iranian production being withdrawn from the market, you idiot. If Iran were attacked by US/Zionist interests, the very first thing they would do is shut down the Strait of Hormuz and bombard the Saudi port facilities across the Persian Gulf. The petroleum exporting infrastructure across the Middle East would be heavily damaged, with 12-15 million bbls/day of Saudi, Qatari, Bahraini, Iraqi, Iranian, Kuwaiti, and UAE oil production taken offline.

    Twenty percent of the world's crude oil exports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. And this is the real oil, the light sweet crude that can actually be refined and blended into commercial fuels. It isn't the natural gas condensate that the US squeezes out of is shale formations. If it is not blended with crude oil to provide a fraction of heavier alkanes, shale oil is pretty useless. No matter how many fracked wells we drill into the Texas plain, the US is not "energy independent" with regard to commercially viable liquid fuels, and we never will be.

    The stability of the global economy is completely dependent on Middle Eastern oil. China in particular (now the world's largest national economy) cannot survive in its present form with out importing oil from the Middle East. China, Iran, and Russia are increasingly integrated into a strategic and economic bloc that can resist US pressure. The USA is $21 trillion is debt (thanks Trump!) and sinking fast. To anyone with any grasp of history at all, it is as clear as the nose on my face that the next war is the war fated to end the American Empire. But even I did not imagine that the mad rush to national suicide would be accompanied by so much glee and hubris.

    , @ka
    Does price follow the reality? It doesn't .It follows the convenient explanation of the 'market' which requests an increase .
    , @Samsonak
    Because a war would most likely involve attack by Iran on Saudi Arabia (oil) and Israel.
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  27. iffen says:

    The enormous collateral damage to South Korea and even Japan is something that Washington planners somehow seem to miss in their calculations.

    And what will S. Korea’s and Japan’s positions be after N. Korea has plenty of nuclear armed ICBMs that can reach the U. S.?

    BTW, I’m sure both countries would avenge us if we were completely incapacitated by a first strike.

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    And what will S. Korea’s and Japan’s positions be after N. Korea has plenty of nuclear armed ICBMs that can reach the U. S.?
     
    Well South Korea will still have twice the population and 50 times the GDP of NK, and Japan will still have 5 times the population and over 100 times the gdp of NK, and Japan and South Korea will still be the 8th and 10th biggest military spenders in the world, and the US will probably still be allied with both and providing them with a "nuclear umbrella".

    What was your point?

    BTW, I’m sure both countries would avenge us if we were completely incapacitated by a first strike.
     
    The US can't be "completely incapacitated" by a first strike. That's what the second strike weapon systems (SLBMs) are for.
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  28. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Hey, look on the bright side! Now Jared the Grifter will get that refinancing for his aptly named 666 building in NYC, which had been a dead end, even though the greasy leech got Daddy-in-law to raise hell on Qatar after they refused to invest in that bust.

    And I imagine that now Mueller will soften and slow his investigations into Trump’s sleazy business deals, since he’s now fully onboard with finishing off Syria and attacking Iran, which will have to take place before January 2019.

    Maybe Jared can get his Mossad buds to do another False Flag on that building, just like they helped their buddy ‘Lucky’ Larry on 9/11.
    That would save Shelly tons of money and kick off another war for the glory of Apartheid Israel.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

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  29. El Dato says:
    @jilles dykstra
    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.
    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.
    If the story is true, attacking Iran will be the end of Israel, not of Iran.
    I sometimes wonder if Iran would like a nuclear attack, to justify wiping Israel off the map.

    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.

    Maybe a sleeping Chtulhu?

    To make this nuclear-weapon proof, it would have to be pretty deep. Even the US doesn’t go that far.

    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.

    Many things are said. Some say the US has Alien Technology that they obtained from a Saucer crash back when Roswell was big. Doesn’t make it true.

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    I did not say it is true, but in my opinion it explains Iranian politics.
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  30. @niteranger
    The Neocon Jews and their Suckmongers like Bolton have won again. It took just over a year for them to take over. Jared Kushner appears to be a Jewish plant reading the daily intelligence briefings that Trump didn't want to read and furnishing the info to his Israeli friends as well as the Saudi Royals who are nothing more than Jewish whores.

    Israel has never defined their borders and they never will. They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

    They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

    I already used my “AGREE” button.

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    Anybody else listen to the "March for our lives" children's crusade today? Scary stuff. Scripted by Spielberg and the Dems, who also paid for most of it -- with a little help from US taxpayers who support public schools, where these snowflakes were indoctrinated.

    The children's crusade is another slice of the salami by which the (((oligarch))) intend to secure their hold on USA for yet another generation.

    The rally was dominated with cries of "Never Again;" reference was made to students who were in their "holocaust studies" class when the shooter was rampaging. Blacks were hauled onstage in large numbers to demonstrate their victimhood, emote, and lead chants, "Vote them out."

    Lots of attacks on NRA, lots of kids saying "we need to feel safe, and you adults have failed us." There was even a spot for several active and veteran US military from Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. who said, "Automatic weapons are for war, there is no reason an American civilian needs those weapons. They are not to be used on American soil."

    iow for these snowflakes, if okey-dokey to kill innocent black and brown people in Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan and Iran; and a kid who is as messed up as Nikolas Cruz deserves "understanding for his situation" because his prostitute-mother was Jewish and he's brownish; but "17 majority-Jewish kids in largely Jewish Boca Raton neighborhood getting killed tips the scales, and it's all Trump's fault.
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  31. El Dato says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Can you explain the cause and effect by which war on and in Iran sends the price of oil above $200 a barrel? Certainly there could, probably would be an immediate jump in price as some buyers bid the price up to ensure they had reserves but I can't see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.

    There would rapidly be a total withdrawal of Saudi output, too. With Russia embargoed, will this do?

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  32. @jilles dykstra
    Can it be that Trump does not want to end as Kennedy ?

    Can it be that Trump does not want to end as Kennedy ?

    No doubt about that. The guy is so vulnerable in so many ways that it isn’t funny.

    He (and Hillary) have to be among the most stupid people on the planet. At their ages why would they want the job?

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  33. @Realist
    Trumps phony act about vetoing the spending bill was so transparent as to be laughable. The buffoon is truly an asshat. It was to mollify his base.
    It was first obviously to me that Trump was a dickhead in human clothes about this time last year. And I voted for him....so sorry. Too many of his supporters have been making excuses for him since.

    The buffoon is truly an asshat. It was to mollify his base.

    I suspect the tariff issue is an attempt to mollify them as well. Behind closed doors it’ll be business as usual.

    Casting ballots is for suckers.

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    "Casting ballots is for suckers."
    Awesome reality stated in such a little sentence. The inverters of reality, an evil cabal without any capacity for creativity, can only distort the true and great achievements of humanity in the service of their misanthropic ends, thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ' representative democracy' which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.
    , @Sin City Milla
    I'm all for being mollified. I couldn't care less what goes on behind closed doors as long as they bring the tariffs on! Whatever his IQ Trump has finally done what no other Pres in generations had the sense to do. The rest could not spell IQ.
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  34. @Erebus

    The US is at present an internal balancing act that could easily become unstable by something like a costly military adventure that spirals into a major loss.
     
    Naw. Bolton and Pompeo will be allowed, even encouraged to bark like mad dogs, but I can't believe that the Pentagon will acquiesce to go to war for them. Their wind will dissipate faster after they've run up against reality a few times.
    I think they've been set up to run straight into it. As the flag-bearers for the hawkish end of the American spectrum, they're immune from criticism even when they are forced to back down and become doves. With that, they too can be summarily fired and the whole Neocon dream will just fade away with them.

    Sounds plausible in today’s mad America. I hope you are right.

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  35. A leading hawk, [Pompeo] was first in his class of 1986 at the United States Military Academy but found himself as a junior officer with no real war to fight. He spent six years in uniform before resigning, never having seen combat, making war an abstraction for him… He has since marketed himself as a fearless soldier in the war against terrorism and rogue states…

    The wanna be hero types are near the bottom of the barrel, morally speaking, and the preening West Point girly princelets are even lower than most with the absolute lowest being the Zio-sucks. Being first among that pack of pathologic narcissists is equivalent to bragging about having the best outhouse on the block.

    Anyone know of any real estate on another planet, preferably a desert one?

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  36. Jake says:

    The most viciously self-righteous Israel-First Hawks, the ones who would be happy to see a mere 10 or 12 million dead if their good intentions could be realized, indeed are back fully in the saddle.

    They are morally blind, or even morally perverse, from wearing blinkers and operating from the deep-seated, marrow bone, WASP faith, going back to the earliest Anglo-Saxon ‘Puritans’ and epitomized in Oliver Cromwell, that the Anglo-Saxon race proves its being the race chosen to rule the world by being the race that sees itself as the race that is chosen to rule the world.

    It’s a nice Talmudic circle. And it – as archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell himself realized – required taking Jewish money and allying with Jews against, eventually, all other white Gentiles.

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    You must be an Irishman.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "They are morally blind, or even morally perverse"

    I prefer the term morally retarded. It's more descriptive of the way I view such people. Morals are just out of reach for people like Pompeo and his ilk. Morality can't be grafted onto their shriveled souls.
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  37. @El Dato

    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.
     
    Maybe a sleeping Chtulhu?

    To make this nuclear-weapon proof, it would have to be pretty deep. Even the US doesn't go that far.


    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.
     
    Many things are said. Some say the US has Alien Technology that they obtained from a Saucer crash back when Roswell was big. Doesn't make it true.

    I did not say it is true, but in my opinion it explains Iranian politics.

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  38. El Dato says:

    I hear Guccifer 2.0 is back in the news.

    CONFIRMED for GRU operative! We even have his STREET ADDRESS now. Because IP of VPN.

    This after Iran is back in the news for crazy haxx against US universities.

    Reminder:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-10/new-research-shows-guccifer-20-files-were-copied-locally-dnc-not-hacked-russians

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  39. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Can you explain the cause and effect by which war on and in Iran sends the price of oil above $200 a barrel? Certainly there could, probably would be an immediate jump in price as some buyers bid the price up to ensure they had reserves but I can't see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.

    War with Iran (assuming it’s more than a brief exchange, and leads to serious conflict) threatens oils supplies directly from: Saudi Arabia (joint biggest producer in the world), Iran (5th), Iraq (4th), UAE (8th), and Kuwait (9th). And bear in mind that the 3rd biggest (US) uses most of its own production itself, and the other joint biggest (Russia) uses quite a lot of its own production as well.

    On top of that, such a war will create massive global uncertainty, which tends to spike prices of strategic commodities such as oil anyway.

    A big hike in the price seems inevitable.

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    Well are they mad enough to do what it takes to get it over in a couple of days?
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  40. Randal says:
    @iffen
    The enormous collateral damage to South Korea and even Japan is something that Washington planners somehow seem to miss in their calculations.

    And what will S. Korea's and Japan's positions be after N. Korea has plenty of nuclear armed ICBMs that can reach the U. S.?

    BTW, I'm sure both countries would avenge us if we were completely incapacitated by a first strike.

    And what will S. Korea’s and Japan’s positions be after N. Korea has plenty of nuclear armed ICBMs that can reach the U. S.?

    Well South Korea will still have twice the population and 50 times the GDP of NK, and Japan will still have 5 times the population and over 100 times the gdp of NK, and Japan and South Korea will still be the 8th and 10th biggest military spenders in the world, and the US will probably still be allied with both and providing them with a “nuclear umbrella”.

    What was your point?

    BTW, I’m sure both countries would avenge us if we were completely incapacitated by a first strike.

    The US can’t be “completely incapacitated” by a first strike. That’s what the second strike weapon systems (SLBMs) are for.

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    What was your point?

    It's time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K.
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  41. @Erebus

    The US is at present an internal balancing act that could easily become unstable by something like a costly military adventure that spirals into a major loss.
     
    Naw. Bolton and Pompeo will be allowed, even encouraged to bark like mad dogs, but I can't believe that the Pentagon will acquiesce to go to war for them. Their wind will dissipate faster after they've run up against reality a few times.
    I think they've been set up to run straight into it. As the flag-bearers for the hawkish end of the American spectrum, they're immune from criticism even when they are forced to back down and become doves. With that, they too can be summarily fired and the whole Neocon dream will just fade away with them.

    I sure hope there is another “Fox” Fallon out there somewhere but I wouldn’t bet on it.

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  42. @Jake
    The most viciously self-righteous Israel-First Hawks, the ones who would be happy to see a mere 10 or 12 million dead if their good intentions could be realized, indeed are back fully in the saddle.

    They are morally blind, or even morally perverse, from wearing blinkers and operating from the deep-seated, marrow bone, WASP faith, going back to the earliest Anglo-Saxon 'Puritans' and epitomized in Oliver Cromwell, that the Anglo-Saxon race proves its being the race chosen to rule the world by being the race that sees itself as the race that is chosen to rule the world.

    It's a nice Talmudic circle. And it - as archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell himself realized - required taking Jewish money and allying with Jews against, eventually, all other white Gentiles.

    You must be an Irishman.

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    There aren't to many Irish guys named Jake.

    Cromwell wasn't just bad for the Irish. He was very bad for the British, too. He was a cathedral vandal and the beneficiary of regicide.
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  43. Trump who received 5 deferments during the Vietnam war is going to take the U.S. to war with Russia for his Zionist masters using Syria and Iran as catalysts, a war for Zionist Israel, and it will be a war to end all wars, nuclear.

    Trump is the Judas goat that is going to lead us goyim ie cattle to slaughter for the Zionist NWO.

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    Trump who received 5 deferments during the Vietnam war is going to take the U.S. to war with Russia for his Zionist masters using Syria and Iran as catalysts, a war for Zionist Israel, and it will be a war to end all wars, nuclear.
     
    the solution is simple

    Putin simply states that the with the first Russian that dies in Syria due to Zionist/ZUS military action = Tel Aviv gets glassed.

    we all know these wars are all intended to bolster Israel. Duh. So why maintain the pretense when the Zio-Fiend has Moscow in the crosshairs?

    the existential question all Americans and all people of good will on the planet are going to have to ask themselves, is when the Fiend goes all out for world domination, by destroying the two remaining obstacles (Russia and China) to its Orwellian hell on earth it plans for all of us, what will we do when the call comes from Washington, DC - to every American and beyond, that..

    you're either with us / or against us

    when we refuse to support the war effort, and even oppose it..

    I guess I'll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?

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  44. TG says:

    Yet more evidence that we do not live in a democracy. For decades now we vote for one thing and get another. Democracy is a sham, that privatizes power and socializes responsibility.

    Obama was a cold-hearted con-man, he was saying one thing on the campaign trail and secretly promising the opposite to his wealthy donors. Once elected, he continued to talk like FDR while governing like Marie Antoinette. But the betrayal was so deep that his supporters could not accept it, and continued to believe that the problem was those evil Republicans blocking him…

    Trump is a salesman, he says whatever he needs to say to close the deal. Once elected, he actually tried to do what he promised, but encountered so much resistance from the establishment that he finally folded. Now he’s playing his base with empty words and political theater, while doing what the rich want. The question is: will his base become mindless supporters, like those ‘liberal democrats’ who still support Obama, or will they at least have the moral courage to realize that they’ve been sold out?

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    Q:

    The question is: will his base become(a) mindless supporters, like those ‘liberal democrats’ who still support Obama, or (b)will they at least have the moral courage to realize that they’ve been sold out?
     
    A; Option (a). WIthout a doubt. Statists always remain statists.
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  45. Che Guava says:

    Dr. Giraldi,

    I am not even a citizen, only of an occupied state (after more than 70 yrs), but it is hard to express my dismay on reading that Prex Trump was appointing this dangerous neo-Zio-Con imbecile,

    Maybe Trump has the attention span to keep this lunatic on a tight leash, don’t think so.

    Too many people will know, by USA mid-terms, that ‘Drain the swamp’ was really meaning ‘Get knee-deep in the swamp’.

    From my reading of U.S.A. current affairs and opinion sites, such as this, he fails. Perhaps he will get a second term *simply because* he appoints a loony to high office and gets sudden favourable MSM coverage fron now.

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  46. anarchyst says:

    If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.

    The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving customs clearance or inspection. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

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    This seems like the first time anybody put these things together:

    keep the American money spigot running…]

    Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.]

    galvanize the American public, once again,]

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA ]

    INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.]
     
    Once upon a time, the finger piers of all the worlds ports tended to a bee hive of activity from assembling cargo from or to ships, and including inspections that might result in impounds or fumigation and the like.

    Maybe nobody noticed, but all that is history, (or maybe nowadays: HERstory…) The Dockers and Lumpers been replaced by sea containers all locked up and secure as they fly off the docks fast as can be. OK, wouldn't that be a great way to pull off some kind of Shell Game with a secrete cargo, if that was the plan? Or if that was some option?

    The idea of that always elicits ''Terrorism'' kinds of scenarios so it doesn't seem like too likely primitive Camel Jockies would be able but since the concept is a little murky as to what is comprised exactly in the term, so you have assembled a new perspective with your bright comment!
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  47. @jacques sheete

    The buffoon is truly an asshat. It was to mollify his base.
     
    I suspect the tariff issue is an attempt to mollify them as well. Behind closed doors it'll be business as usual.

    Casting ballots is for suckers.

    “Casting ballots is for suckers.”
    Awesome reality stated in such a little sentence. The inverters of reality, an evil cabal without any capacity for creativity, can only distort the true and great achievements of humanity in the service of their misanthropic ends, thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ‘ representative democracy’ which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.

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    Awesome reality stated in “Casting ballots is for suckers.”
     
    So what's YOUR PLAN for righting the ship? Or is this your brand of virtue signaling?
    , @jacques sheete

    ...thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ‘ representative democracy’ which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.
     
    Even the much ballyhooed Athenian democracy only lasted a short time and I haven't had time to check out my theory, but I suspect it only lasted as long as the silver mines at Laurion ( just outside Athens) were producing.

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.

    As far as "representative" democracy is concerned you are correct and the anti-federalists were onto the scam as well.

    As for Robing G's challenge, I'd like to know what Robin's plan is. I suspect it's somewhat humorous.
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  48. @Wizard of Oz
    Can you explain the cause and effect by which war on and in Iran sends the price of oil above $200 a barrel? Certainly there could, probably would be an immediate jump in price as some buyers bid the price up to ensure they had reserves but I can't see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.

    but I can’t see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.

    We’re not talking about Iranian production being withdrawn from the market, you idiot. If Iran were attacked by US/Zionist interests, the very first thing they would do is shut down the Strait of Hormuz and bombard the Saudi port facilities across the Persian Gulf. The petroleum exporting infrastructure across the Middle East would be heavily damaged, with 12-15 million bbls/day of Saudi, Qatari, Bahraini, Iraqi, Iranian, Kuwaiti, and UAE oil production taken offline.

    Twenty percent of the world’s crude oil exports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. And this is the real oil, the light sweet crude that can actually be refined and blended into commercial fuels. It isn’t the natural gas condensate that the US squeezes out of is shale formations. If it is not blended with crude oil to provide a fraction of heavier alkanes, shale oil is pretty useless. No matter how many fracked wells we drill into the Texas plain, the US is not “energy independent” with regard to commercially viable liquid fuels, and we never will be.

    The stability of the global economy is completely dependent on Middle Eastern oil. China in particular (now the world’s largest national economy) cannot survive in its present form with out importing oil from the Middle East. China, Iran, and Russia are increasingly integrated into a strategic and economic bloc that can resist US pressure. The USA is $21 trillion is debt (thanks Trump!) and sinking fast. To anyone with any grasp of history at all, it is as clear as the nose on my face that the next war is the war fated to end the American Empire. But even I did not imagine that the mad rush to national suicide would be accompanied by so much glee and hubris.

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    Indeed, from memory, 45% of the oil for the west has to pass the Strait of Hormuz, a very narrow channel.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    So we know any strategy has to include planning for the Straits of Hormuz not to be blockable by the Iranians. That is indeed a formidable hurdle. Presumably only nuclear weapons could guarantee it.
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  49. Joe Hide says:

    Trump’s Results are all that count. Even in depth factual analysis is impotent next to results. ISIS is broken, Al Quida is now just a misspelled word, the economy is reversing its downward spiral (Except for the percentage of the rich that make their money as parasites.), and much more good is happening. “Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes it for it’s evil deads.”… that is, The Truth is exposing the Global Deception that has perpetuated tyranny, misery, and unhappiness for generations, indeed for far longer than that. The Biggest Game is being played out now, with the Good Guys having learned it’s newer rules, which were altered by the Bad Guys. One of the rules is that the public , in general, can’t handle the whole truth, so must be fed pieces of it until they wake up. Trump, Putin, and their very powerful Allies are playing this game exceedingly well.

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    "Trump’s Results are all that count. Even in depth factual analysis is impotent next to results."

    ^
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    Fine posters here, we have a clear example of a Russian bot.
    , @anonymous

    Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes it for it’s evil deads.
     
    Ooo, is one supposed to be impressed by such "profundity"?

    The Evil Empire is the Darkness, you degenerate.


    The Truth
     
    LOL! Are you talking about "The Truth"?

    Only hallucinating fools consider such nonsense as "100% God & 100% man," as The Truth...

    Even Holmes will be stumped by the Mystery of the 200% Whole. ;)


    Good Guys
     
    Sigh!

    It will not end well for the "Good Guys."

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  50. Iberiano says:
    @Sean
    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam--backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton's appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

    My question is, presuming you are right, and I think you might be, does this now mean Trump is LIKELY to win in 2020 (full backing of the elites/Israel) and a wall may actually be built at some point? Or just more influx of illegals AND we are assisting Israel in their expansion.

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    Trump is like Roosevelt, he needs to win again to make the judicial obstructionism to his program cease . I don't think the elite are identical to the Israel Lobby, which can be split off a bit by offering the overthrow of Iran. The key will be after the crushing of Iran when Trump must tacitly encourage Israel to strike and expel most of the west bank Arab. Once that happens the Israel Lobby will defend Trump against the gentile-Globalist-pacifist Jews of the elite who hold the creation of a Palestinian state in the West bank to be the only solution .
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  51. Che Guava says:

    It was a later para, missing a ‘to’. In any case, I attempted deleting my earlier posting, but the site timer and real-time are not always coinciding、

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  52. Sean says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    You are # 1 in my line up. Congratulations!
    So Father took daughter to restaurant and in the restaurant she opened her luggage and that automatically did spray her father. They did not notice anything so they went to park to take a nap.
    Absolutely brilliant .
    BTW How old you are?

    The explanation from Russia is that the nerve gas came from the British defence lab Porton Down which is not very far from where the poisoning took place. Unlike certain countries where people get drunk and cause nuclear power station catastrophes or almost start WW3 over Norwegian weather research (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident) we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us against them and was swapped for Anna Chapman, not unless we never want anyone to work for us again, eh? Proof beyond reasonable doubt does not mean there is no chance of a mistake anyway, but it is much more likely than anything else that the Russian state did it on Putin’s orders. Skripal was branded a ‘traitor’ and a ‘bastard’ on state TV in Russia, so them playing the innocent again won’t work. Not again .

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    we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us
     
    Because when MI6 or its anonymous analysts have ever lied to anyone. Like Sadam's WMD, Assad's chemical barrel bombs, Litvinienko's plutonium https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/17/litvinenko-and-the-demise-of-british-justice/
    and the innocence of every single British politician ever accused of pedophilia, the truth in the UK is drown out in a myriad of loud and incessant lies.
    , @Twodees Partain
    " so them playing the innocent again won’t work. Not again ."

    Apparently it won't work on you. Not again, anyway.
    , @Sean

    August 15, 2008

    Leaders were once named after their most (in)famous acts. In the 10th century Ethelred, king of England, was called "the Unready" after he panicked at the prospect of Viking pirates coming to raid his shores; he was forever after known as "Ethelred the Redeless" --- the king who was bereft of counsel in the face of barbarian attack.

    Well, here we are a thousand years later, and our vaunted leader-to-be Barry O is about as ready as Ethelred was in the year 1000 CE. Because we are still threatened by barbarians today. Check the headlines if you don't believe it.

    Vladimir Putin should be known throughout the world as "Putin the Poisoner." His signature act -- the action that defined Putin's character for all the world to see -- was the radioactive poisoning of KGB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London, using polonium-210. The kicker is that you can't just buy polonium-210 at your local chemical supply store. You can only get it if you have a nuclear weapons industry, because there you need it to start a nuclear chain reaction. It's a super-tricky substance to control. Putin's assassins left their traces all over London. Chemically, Po-210 is 250,000 times more toxic than hydrogen cyanide. But the Russians have always favored overkill.

    Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/08/barry_the_unready_and_putin_th.html#ixzz5AmQp7I5I

     

    Vlad the Impaler says he never impaled anyone, and cant understand why anyone disbelieving him

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge-ilEFgJ34
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  53. iffen says:
    @Randal

    And what will S. Korea’s and Japan’s positions be after N. Korea has plenty of nuclear armed ICBMs that can reach the U. S.?
     
    Well South Korea will still have twice the population and 50 times the GDP of NK, and Japan will still have 5 times the population and over 100 times the gdp of NK, and Japan and South Korea will still be the 8th and 10th biggest military spenders in the world, and the US will probably still be allied with both and providing them with a "nuclear umbrella".

    What was your point?

    BTW, I’m sure both countries would avenge us if we were completely incapacitated by a first strike.
     
    The US can't be "completely incapacitated" by a first strike. That's what the second strike weapon systems (SLBMs) are for.

    What was your point?

    It’s time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K.

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    We can agree on that, for sure. It's what I've been saying for over 20 years now.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    iffen reflected (?) and wrote: "It’s time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K."

    Hi iffen,

    Oh man, how lucky for me to have read your unique idea, above!

    Guess what, iffy?

    In today's mail, I received a confirmation from State Department, and beginning April 2nd, I become ZUS Ambassador to Borneo. My embassy residence will be in the capital city, Pongo-Pongo. Central air conditioning and a hot tub!

    Based upon your fine recommendation, asap, I will meet with the Bornean Queen, Stormy Dan-tsunami, and threaten to break off diplomatic relations unless she purchases a (used) F35 and I could grope her whenever the mood strikes.

    Thanks, iffen! I knew you had it "in you" and I do not mean the Maven's member.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Yes, let’s stop subsidizing and entangling ourselves militarily with the Future Islamic Republics of Britain, Germany, and France, as well as the Koreas (which are inevitably part of China’s Dominant sphere if not eventually annexed by China).

    The USA ought to ally itself with the countries that have some realistic chance of preserving a semblance of our civilization and physically protecting a living space for our European peoples and working amicably with more compatible, more intelligent peoples:

    Russia

    Hopefully Poland, Hungary, Belarus, Ukraine

    any other Eastern European/Slavic or Balkan countries that reject the US/EU elite-supported Muslim/African invasion of the (semi)civilized world ... This necessarily will mean countries that aren’t in the EU, or who have the sense to leave the EU before the mandatory Islamic and Retard wave drowns them too.

    Japan

    It’s a slim roster, to be sure.
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  54. Sean says:
    @Iberiano
    My question is, presuming you are right, and I think you might be, does this now mean Trump is LIKELY to win in 2020 (full backing of the elites/Israel) and a wall may actually be built at some point? Or just more influx of illegals AND we are assisting Israel in their expansion.

    Trump is like Roosevelt, he needs to win again to make the judicial obstructionism to his program cease . I don’t think the elite are identical to the Israel Lobby, which can be split off a bit by offering the overthrow of Iran. The key will be after the crushing of Iran when Trump must tacitly encourage Israel to strike and expel most of the west bank Arab. Once that happens the Israel Lobby will defend Trump against the gentile-Globalist-pacifist Jews of the elite who hold the creation of a Palestinian state in the West bank to be the only solution .

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    If any president wanted war, and lowered the USA standard of living, it was FDR.
    Charles A. Beard, ‘American Foreign Policy in the Making, 1932 – 1940, A study in responsibilities’, New Haven, 1946
    Peter H. Nicoll, ´Englands Krieg gegen Deutschland, Ursachen, Methoden und Folgen des Zweiten Weltkriegs’, 1963, 2001, Tübingen ( Britain’s Blunder, 1953)
    In the second book is how WWII lowered the USA standard of living calculated.
    Wars are expensive, not just in blood and misery.
    What Trump tries, I hope, is to get the USA out of the war madness.
    Not easy, as already Eisenhower warned in his farewell speech.
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  55. @Intelligent Dasein

    but I can’t see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.
     
    We're not talking about Iranian production being withdrawn from the market, you idiot. If Iran were attacked by US/Zionist interests, the very first thing they would do is shut down the Strait of Hormuz and bombard the Saudi port facilities across the Persian Gulf. The petroleum exporting infrastructure across the Middle East would be heavily damaged, with 12-15 million bbls/day of Saudi, Qatari, Bahraini, Iraqi, Iranian, Kuwaiti, and UAE oil production taken offline.

    Twenty percent of the world's crude oil exports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. And this is the real oil, the light sweet crude that can actually be refined and blended into commercial fuels. It isn't the natural gas condensate that the US squeezes out of is shale formations. If it is not blended with crude oil to provide a fraction of heavier alkanes, shale oil is pretty useless. No matter how many fracked wells we drill into the Texas plain, the US is not "energy independent" with regard to commercially viable liquid fuels, and we never will be.

    The stability of the global economy is completely dependent on Middle Eastern oil. China in particular (now the world's largest national economy) cannot survive in its present form with out importing oil from the Middle East. China, Iran, and Russia are increasingly integrated into a strategic and economic bloc that can resist US pressure. The USA is $21 trillion is debt (thanks Trump!) and sinking fast. To anyone with any grasp of history at all, it is as clear as the nose on my face that the next war is the war fated to end the American Empire. But even I did not imagine that the mad rush to national suicide would be accompanied by so much glee and hubris.

    Indeed, from memory, 45% of the oil for the west has to pass the Strait of Hormuz, a very narrow channel.

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  56. @Sean
    Trump is like Roosevelt, he needs to win again to make the judicial obstructionism to his program cease . I don't think the elite are identical to the Israel Lobby, which can be split off a bit by offering the overthrow of Iran. The key will be after the crushing of Iran when Trump must tacitly encourage Israel to strike and expel most of the west bank Arab. Once that happens the Israel Lobby will defend Trump against the gentile-Globalist-pacifist Jews of the elite who hold the creation of a Palestinian state in the West bank to be the only solution .

    If any president wanted war, and lowered the USA standard of living, it was FDR.
    Charles A. Beard, ‘American Foreign Policy in the Making, 1932 – 1940, A study in responsibilities’, New Haven, 1946
    Peter H. Nicoll, ´Englands Krieg gegen Deutschland, Ursachen, Methoden und Folgen des Zweiten Weltkriegs’, 1963, 2001, Tübingen ( Britain’s Blunder, 1953)
    In the second book is how WWII lowered the USA standard of living calculated.
    Wars are expensive, not just in blood and misery.
    What Trump tries, I hope, is to get the USA out of the war madness.
    Not easy, as already Eisenhower warned in his farewell speech.

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    If any president wanted war, and lowered the USA standard of living, it was FDR.
     
    Thank you for that excellent point.

    I believe Britain during the 30s was also undergoing a drop in the standard of living. If I remember correctly, Reed, in his "Controversy of Zion" made that point.

    In contrast, Germany, despite International Commie agitation and threats from all sides, the depression, the strangling effects of the Versailles Treaty and the declaration of war against and boycott of Germany by Jews, the standard of living was improving and apparently decent. Also the workers were treated much better in Germany than in the USSR (slave labor camps and all), Britain and the US.

    The three largest fascist states couldn't have Germany empowering, or at least benefitting, the workers.
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  58. Ho-hum says:

    We’ve been here before. Remember that even after the international community defined aggression, articulating Nuremberg Count 2 with explicit warning of general war of mass destruction, CIA kept pressing to attack neutral Cambodia, which was the open-and-shut legal case for US aggression. CIA’s intent was to establish its impunity by wrecking rule of law once and for all. At that time, CIA had installed as president CTE poster child and Warren Commission stooge Gerald Ford, perhaps their most helpless and pliable puppet. What happened? Defense Secretary Jim Schlesinger channeled Bartelby the Scrivener. He ignored orders to attack.

    Now the SecDef is Mattis, who’s even more firmly embedded in the military milieu than RAND egghead Schlesinger. So here’s what’s going to happen. Bolton will pull down his pants and pee, crap, and fap on jus cogens while Russia impassively enforces it at gunpoint. The Pentagon will say, Yes Sir, Officer Gerasimov, and comply. There will be no trouble. The US will lose what’s left of its standing and influence, not merely for deficient toilet training, as usual, but for contemptible ‘Lemme-at-em!’ posturing belied by obvious weakness. The Western bloc will continue to disintegrate from the outside in.

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  59. @Randal
    War with Iran (assuming it's more than a brief exchange, and leads to serious conflict) threatens oils supplies directly from: Saudi Arabia (joint biggest producer in the world), Iran (5th), Iraq (4th), UAE (8th), and Kuwait (9th). And bear in mind that the 3rd biggest (US) uses most of its own production itself, and the other joint biggest (Russia) uses quite a lot of its own production as well.

    On top of that, such a war will create massive global uncertainty, which tends to spike prices of strategic commodities such as oil anyway.

    A big hike in the price seems inevitable.

    Well are they mad enough to do what it takes to get it over in a couple of days?

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    are they mad enough to do what it takes to get it over in a couple of days?
     
    They've just recruited someone who probably is. Though the idea that there is anything they can in practice do that will "get it over in a couple of days" is probably delusional.

    Collectively the risk isn't so much that they might be mad enough to go nuclear, as that they probably are variously ignorant and obsessive and zealous enough to start wars that they think they can control, but can't.
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  60. Z-man says:

    Real conservatives are…like Pat Buchanan, weary of The Lobby and against foreign interventions for the most part and America firsters. These NEOCON’s, especially Gentile ones, are traitors.
    I still hold out some hope in Trump, that he’s playing political games protecting his flanks, maybe have Bolton be the sacrificial lamb if he decides to keep the Iran deal, I don’t know, but that hope is stretching thin.

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    that he’s playing political games protecting his flanks, maybe have Bolton be the sacrificial lamb if he decides to keep the Iran deal, I don’t know, but that hope is stretching thin
     
    That doesn't even make sense. I hardly know whether to laugh or cry.
    , @anonymous
    You lie about Buchanan. That racist degenerate is a White Supremacist, whose goal is World Hegemony... a very villainous and satanic undertaking indeed.

    They are traitors to humanity. No shortage of those in the Evil Empire.
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  61. @Intelligent Dasein

    but I can’t see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.
     
    We're not talking about Iranian production being withdrawn from the market, you idiot. If Iran were attacked by US/Zionist interests, the very first thing they would do is shut down the Strait of Hormuz and bombard the Saudi port facilities across the Persian Gulf. The petroleum exporting infrastructure across the Middle East would be heavily damaged, with 12-15 million bbls/day of Saudi, Qatari, Bahraini, Iraqi, Iranian, Kuwaiti, and UAE oil production taken offline.

    Twenty percent of the world's crude oil exports pass through the Strait of Hormuz. And this is the real oil, the light sweet crude that can actually be refined and blended into commercial fuels. It isn't the natural gas condensate that the US squeezes out of is shale formations. If it is not blended with crude oil to provide a fraction of heavier alkanes, shale oil is pretty useless. No matter how many fracked wells we drill into the Texas plain, the US is not "energy independent" with regard to commercially viable liquid fuels, and we never will be.

    The stability of the global economy is completely dependent on Middle Eastern oil. China in particular (now the world's largest national economy) cannot survive in its present form with out importing oil from the Middle East. China, Iran, and Russia are increasingly integrated into a strategic and economic bloc that can resist US pressure. The USA is $21 trillion is debt (thanks Trump!) and sinking fast. To anyone with any grasp of history at all, it is as clear as the nose on my face that the next war is the war fated to end the American Empire. But even I did not imagine that the mad rush to national suicide would be accompanied by so much glee and hubris.

    So we know any strategy has to include planning for the Straits of Hormuz not to be blockable by the Iranians. That is indeed a formidable hurdle. Presumably only nuclear weapons could guarantee it.

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    Not necessarily.
    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it's feasible and quite possible.
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  62. Randal says:
    @iffen
    What was your point?

    It's time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K.

    We can agree on that, for sure. It’s what I’ve been saying for over 20 years now.

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    We can agree on that, for sure.

    I keep telling you that I'm on the same side as you, but you keep rejecting it.
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  63. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Well are they mad enough to do what it takes to get it over in a couple of days?

    are they mad enough to do what it takes to get it over in a couple of days?

    They’ve just recruited someone who probably is. Though the idea that there is anything they can in practice do that will “get it over in a couple of days” is probably delusional.

    Collectively the risk isn’t so much that they might be mad enough to go nuclear, as that they probably are variously ignorant and obsessive and zealous enough to start wars that they think they can control, but can’t.

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  64. Z-man says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned.
     
    Wouldn't seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]. Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.

    And I don't think a war is going to rile up support, at least without a really convincing false flag.

    Wouldn’t seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]

    According to what predictions? The Demokratz are even more bankrupt than the Republitards, the Senate will stay where it is and the Dems will gain in the house but not win it. It’s all local.

    Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.

    There’s still nobody and I mean NOBODY from the other side that can take Trump on. Biden? Don’t make me laugh. If a shining star comes out of nowhere within the next 18 months fine but I strongly doubt that happens.

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    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don't follow American politics closely these days, but that's bad - real bad.

    Biden? Don’t make me laugh.
     
    Biden would beat Trump easy. So long as the Dems don't run some far left harpy (e.g. Kamala Harris) - which, in fairness, they might well do - Trump is done for.
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  65. Z-man says:
    @renfro
    I wonder if anyone here is going to start defending Trump with the absurd...'he's playing 3 dimensional chess'...or the excuse that he's 'keeping his friends close but his enemies closer'.

    Thy need to realize that Trump is the swamp and he is scrapping the bottom of the swamp and bringing the psychopathic swamp slime of Bolton and Gina Haspel into his adm.

    I hope Mueller nails his ass and little Kushner's on something---they should be gotten out of the WH.
    Pence can't be any worse than Trump.

    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.

    I wouldn’t be so sure about that, he’s as close as you wanna get to a Christian Zionist being in the White House

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  66. Wally says:
    @Sean

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/20/russian-agents-learn-litvinenko-errors-devise-hit-sergei-skripal/

    Russian intelligence learnt from the Alexander Litvinenko murder to devise a near perfect assassination method that has left British police still puzzled over how Sergei and Yulia Skripal were poisoned.

    British authorities are increasingly convinced that Colonel Skripal was exposed to nerve agent planted in the luggage of his daughter Yulia who was visiting from Moscow.
     

    Bastards!


    The UK could not care less about Russia, the UK has been pushed into a corner by the second poisoning of a former FSB man living in England within a few years.

    Russians have historically been comparatively poor but comforted by a image of their country as a force to be reckoned with internationally. Putin is an extreme version of that, and he is baiting the UK and the West now to get back to old days when Russia was isolated and hated superpower inhabited by proud paupers. The only thing Putin fears is that his country will become progressively more affluent and friendly with the West and, once he leaves power, seduced into forgetting its self imposed historical mission of greatness.

    Except there is no proof that the Russians poisoned them.

    Brits refuse to give anyone a sample, which is mandated by international agreement.

    No one else in the area was hurt by an alleged chemical that would have necessarily poisoned the surrounding area.

    The doctors on the scene said that could see no physical signs of poisoning.

    The alleged victims have curiously disappeared.

    Coincidentally, no doubt, the biggest Brit chemical weapons lab is a just a few miles down the road.

    more: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/03/no_author/russian-scientists-explain-novichok-high-time-for-britain-to-come-clean/

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  67. edNels says:
    @anarchyst
    If a nuclear device is "lit off" in an American or European city, it will have Israel's fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running as well as sabotaging the Palestinian "peace process" that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is "lit off" anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel's secret nuclear "stockpile".

    The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand", as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the "power outage" without receiving customs clearance or inspection. Just maybe another one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for "the big one". As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    This seems like the first time anybody put these things together:

    keep the American money spigot running…]

    Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.]

    galvanize the American public, once again,]

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA ]

    INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.]

    Once upon a time, the finger piers of all the worlds ports tended to a bee hive of activity from assembling cargo from or to ships, and including inspections that might result in impounds or fumigation and the like.

    Maybe nobody noticed, but all that is history, (or maybe nowadays: HERstory…) The Dockers and Lumpers been replaced by sea containers all locked up and secure as they fly off the docks fast as can be. OK, wouldn’t that be a great way to pull off some kind of Shell Game with a secrete cargo, if that was the plan? Or if that was some option?

    The idea of that always elicits ”Terrorism” kinds of scenarios so it doesn’t seem like too likely primitive Camel Jockies would be able but since the concept is a little murky as to what is comprised exactly in the term, so you have assembled a new perspective with your bright comment!

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  68. Rurik says:
    @renfro
    I wonder if anyone here is going to start defending Trump with the absurd...'he's playing 3 dimensional chess'...or the excuse that he's 'keeping his friends close but his enemies closer'.

    Thy need to realize that Trump is the swamp and he is scrapping the bottom of the swamp and bringing the psychopathic swamp slime of Bolton and Gina Haspel into his adm.

    I hope Mueller nails his ass and little Kushner's on something---they should be gotten out of the WH.
    Pence can't be any worse than Trump.

    ’he’s playing 3 dimensional chess’

    my last hope was that Bolton would have to pass a Senate confirmation that he wouldn’t get. But National Security Advisor requires no confirmation. So Bolton (and war with Iran) are a certainty, as far as I can see.

    It’s over.

    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.

    God help us but I think you’re mistaken about that.

    Trump is a whore, but Pence is a true believer. Pence wants to force the Second Coming, and that means the Apocalypse, and the Tribulation, and all that other psychotic, biblical insanity.

    Please keep in mind that the Zionists consider WWII as their greatest triumph. 65+ million goyim souls slaughtered horrifically, often by burning alive! You can’t get more Old Testament triumphal vengeance than that!

    And all these wars in the Middle East that leave entire nations utterly in ruins.. With their people in shock at the death and carnage and utter despair.. ..are all things that Zionists (and their Christian concubines like Pence) gush over. As the world and all people with a shred of morality or decency, reel from the slaughter-fest, horrified – the Zionists, (just like the dancing Israelis on 9/11 or the cackling war hag over the lynching of Gadhafi) are beside themselves with self-satisfied, ebullient glee. Literally unable to contain their elation.

    As bad as Trump is, and has turned out to be, with the dead giveaway by appointing zio-scum Bolton, I suspect that true-believer Pence, would be even worse.

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    Trump is a whore, but Pence is a true believer.
     
    LOL, excellent observation, Rurik!

    When you begin to tally up the caliber of moron which the Jewish filtering process is allowing through the electoral process, people like Halley, Pence here and Williamson, Johnson and May in England, it may be that intelligent people with an ounce of self-respect just refuse to be associated with something like this. What’s left is morons and, like you say, whores.

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  69. John Bolton, another bureaucrat who’s never served in uniform but loves war. The only dicey situation he’s ever voluntarily faced was when he and his wife frequented swingers clubs. What is it about our government that allows bloodthirsty chicken-hawks like Bolton and Cheney access to power?

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  70. KA says:
    @Sean
    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam--backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton's appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

    Just one man ? Just this guy McMaster was standing between Iran and USA? In that case , a coup has already taken place . The coup master must be embedded,active,and always bidding for the perfect dispensable man to do their bidding . By dispensable, I mean the death of person like Litiivenko and the double agent in Salisbury on 3 rd March . Bolton should be careful for his own life . Once the job is done the coup club will throw him under the bus blame NK or China or Russia and plan war again, using another stupid careerist corrupt ambitious dog . May God help Bolton .

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    MacMaster wanted to accept the deal with Iran, but get tough with Russia. In reality the US would only ever be shadow boxing with Russia, which is too dangerous to take any kind of military action against of course. They like to have the reputation of being a Hawk, but no one actually contemplated anything beyond words with Russia/ A reputation as a Hawks in relation to Russia (and North Korea) means nothing. Nobody in the Beltway is fooled by the rhetoric. There is a reason the early Cold War nuclear bazooka was quickly phased out and nothing like it exists now. Iran is different, the Hawks on Iran are intent on destroying it.
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  71. Rurik says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Trump who received 5 deferments during the Vietnam war is going to take the U.S. to war with Russia for his Zionist masters using Syria and Iran as catalysts, a war for Zionist Israel, and it will be a war to end all wars, nuclear.

    Trump is the Judas goat that is going to lead us goyim ie cattle to slaughter for the Zionist NWO.

    Trump who received 5 deferments during the Vietnam war is going to take the U.S. to war with Russia for his Zionist masters using Syria and Iran as catalysts, a war for Zionist Israel, and it will be a war to end all wars, nuclear.

    the solution is simple

    Putin simply states that the with the first Russian that dies in Syria due to Zionist/ZUS military action = Tel Aviv gets glassed.

    we all know these wars are all intended to bolster Israel. Duh. So why maintain the pretense when the Zio-Fiend has Moscow in the crosshairs?

    the existential question all Americans and all people of good will on the planet are going to have to ask themselves, is when the Fiend goes all out for world domination, by destroying the two remaining obstacles (Russia and China) to its Orwellian hell on earth it plans for all of us, what will we do when the call comes from Washington, DC – to every American and beyond, that..

    you’re either with us / or against us

    when we refuse to support the war effort, and even oppose it..

    I guess I’ll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?

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    Agree, the Zionist elites think they can sit out the nuclear exchange in the DUMBs that are through out the U.S. ie deep underground military bases, like the one under the Denver airport, but we goyim are going to be slaughtered for the Zionist NWO.
    , @geokat62

    I guess I’ll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?
     
    I’d rather be locked up in Gitmo surrounded by decent people who are willing to speak truth to power and fight against the NWO, than roam free among the clueless cucks and libtards who eagerly await the ushering in of the Zionist dystopia that awaits them, let alone battle against it.
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  72. renfro says:
    @Z-man
    Real conservatives are...like Pat Buchanan, weary of The Lobby and against foreign interventions for the most part and America firsters. These NEOCON's, especially Gentile ones, are traitors.
    I still hold out some hope in Trump, that he's playing political games protecting his flanks, maybe have Bolton be the sacrificial lamb if he decides to keep the Iran deal, I don't know, but that hope is stretching thin.

    that he’s playing political games protecting his flanks, maybe have Bolton be the sacrificial lamb if he decides to keep the Iran deal, I don’t know, but that hope is stretching thin

    That doesn’t even make sense. I hardly know whether to laugh or cry.

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  73. Corvinus says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is. The geopolitical consequences of a war with Iran would be enormous. The price of oil would skyrocket to north of $200/bbl and the the major nations of the world (e.g. Russia, China) would be forced to intervene to secure some sort of global stability. Before it was all over, the global economy will have tanked and millions of people would be dead, including many innocents.

    I simply cannot believe the deliberate and artful precision with which the USA is lining up the dominoes of its own destruction. It really is uncanny.

    Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future. He may eke out another presidential term if the Dems decide to run a flaming Leftist like Kamala Harris, but his magic is gone. Trump's political capital is not only spent, it is deep in arrears with no hope of repayment. The Teflon Don has become the Bankrupt Buffoon, and sadly that is how he will be remembered.

    “We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is…Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future.”

    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer’s remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?

    Is the mask finally coming off of Trump for even his most ardent supporters to realize he is not a “God-Emperor”?

    Or will Trump magically “reinvent himself”, with his shills and toadies once again screeching in unison “MAGA”?

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    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer’s remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?
     
    no

    what it says is that the people who voted for Trump are moral, and that we rejected contrived zio-wars that slaughter innocent people.

    Just like Americans rejected the war when they voted for Wilson, and he promised to keep us out of the war. But the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    Americans rejected the war when they voted for FDR, when he promised to keep us out of the zio-WWII- but the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    and we rejected the satanic zio-wars in the Middle East, when we elected Trump, and he promised to end the evil being done in our name, but the zio-scum are dragging us in, though treachery, as usual

    but, even with all of that, it's still ragingly obvious that even as Trump is betraying all of us Deplorables, and betraying the decent people of the planet, who held so much hope in him, as he's succumbing to the zio-treachery of The Fiend

    still, STILL - he is gazillion to the ~nth power, better in every way over the war hag.

    for one, if the American electorate would have voted for the war sow, then that would mean that we are truly irredeemable, and unapologetic for the unprecedented evils the zio-American government has been perpetrating all over the globe.

    but by rejecting the cackling war sow, that means that Americans aspired to be decent people, and were hoping that maybe even the war hag, and her counterpart Obama, might even be sent to the Hague to be charged for war crimes, and then put in a cage, where they belong. Or hanged by the neck, if found guilty.

    so by electing Trump, even as he has turned out to betray us all too, at least we tried to end the Fiend's Eternal Wars. And give the planet some shred of hope, for a future without the zio-scum destroying all of our lives, even as they murder their way across the planet.

    So go ahead and do your victory dance Corvy, and high-five your homies. It looks like Trump is just another zio-tool, and your agenda will reign ascendant after all.

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  74. Corvinus says:
    @Joe Hide
    Trump's Results are all that count. Even in depth factual analysis is impotent next to results. ISIS is broken, Al Quida is now just a misspelled word, the economy is reversing its downward spiral (Except for the percentage of the rich that make their money as parasites.), and much more good is happening. "Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes it for it's evil deads."... that is, The Truth is exposing the Global Deception that has perpetuated tyranny, misery, and unhappiness for generations, indeed for far longer than that. The Biggest Game is being played out now, with the Good Guys having learned it's newer rules, which were altered by the Bad Guys. One of the rules is that the public , in general, can't handle the whole truth, so must be fed pieces of it until they wake up. Trump, Putin, and their very powerful Allies are playing this game exceedingly well.

    “Trump’s Results are all that count. Even in depth factual analysis is impotent next to results.”

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    Fine posters here, we have a clear example of a Russian bot.

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  75. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:

    The voters give the creatures legitimacy. Voting means you’ve agreed to let other people take care of the complicated stuff and you’ve agreed to call this democracy instead of slavery.

    The voting class argues over total BS, usually online under a column dedicated to propaganda value. The writers always encourage the vote and vote themselves to demonstrate the proper behavior for the voting class.

    The truth is that 100% of the voting class surrenders their sovereignty to strangers and then they argue over who picked the right strangers. A Constitutional Convention to deal with the problems caused by the rich and powerful is needed. Not the fraudulent referendums they control.

    What about prosecuting all the politicians and generals who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq illegally? Shouldn’t all the senators who voted for the illegal Iraq and Afghanistan wars against innocent people based on lies go to prison?

    A pack of war criminals loved by the slaves, aka the voting class.

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  76. ka says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Can you explain the cause and effect by which war on and in Iran sends the price of oil above $200 a barrel? Certainly there could, probably would be an immediate jump in price as some buyers bid the price up to ensure they had reserves but I can't see why even total withdrawal of Iranian supply would have much more effect.

    Does price follow the reality? It doesn’t .It follows the convenient explanation of the ‘market’ which requests an increase .

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  77. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    So we know any strategy has to include planning for the Straits of Hormuz not to be blockable by the Iranians. That is indeed a formidable hurdle. Presumably only nuclear weapons could guarantee it.

    Not necessarily.
    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it’s feasible and quite possible.

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    But, it would require occupying the shores there.

    Perhaps we will have forward placed assets on the sandbars. :)
    , @Randal

    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it’s feasible and quite possible.
     
    Of course it's feasible, just like overthrowing the government of Iraq and occupying that country was feasible, and keeping the collaboration government in power in most of South Vietnam was feasible - we are talking about a superpower versus a medium sized regional power. The issue is whether it is feasible at any remotely acceptable cost, and for how long the US can bear the ongoing costs politically and economically, and what the diplomatic price of yet another such blatantly illegal military aggression will be.

    Occupying the Persian Gulf shores is obviously do-able, but as you say it is a full blown war operation, which will require the destruction of Iranian air defences, and of major mobile Iranian military forces, and of Iranian missile capabilities and the ongoing protection of the occupying forces from active military harassment. This will have to be done illegally and most likely in the face of active, if not official, Russian support to the Iranian military, and Chinese economic support. Even if US pressure can halt trains through Azerbaijan and the 'Stans, cargo ships full of Russian weapons and "volunteers", financed by China, who will if they have any sense also take the opportunity to get some experience for their own "volunteers" as well, will be landing regularly at Iran's Caspian Sea ports, under Russian air cover. In the initial phase there will likely have been significant damage around the region from Iranian missiles to military and oil infrastructure, and harassment of such targets will continue. The Iranian military is not the Iraqi military of 2003, demoralised and under-equipped by years of sanctions and isolation, and nor is it inexperienced in modern warfare, after Iraq and Syria. Meanwhile, US forces and assets in Iraq will be targeted by local Iranian sympathisers, and likewise in Afghanistan, where attacks on US forces will suddenly have access to heavier weapons , air defences and artillery than they ever have so far.

    Fortunately, the US is solidly politically united and well capable of bearing heavy ongoing losses in a war on the other side of the planet that is not remotely in its national interest, and has sound economic fundamentals that will allow it to easily sustain the ongoing massive equipment replacement and logistical costs in the global economic collapse environment created after a massive spike in the price of oil.[/sarcasm]

    But of course, none of that might happen. There's always the possibility, ever-beloved of warmongers, that US troops finally will actually have a war whose costs do not massively exceed what its advocates claim.
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  78. Sean says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned.
     
    Wouldn't seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]. Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.

    And I don't think a war is going to rile up support, at least without a really convincing false flag.

    Bolton is a clear sign that the time is upon us. Approval for Trump may or may not be understated by polling. Nonetheless an attack on Iran can split the Dems from their Lobby supporters on foreign policy and the appointment of Bolton has already hurt their financing I suspect. Israel has to do the population transfer. I agree if it looks like Trump is going to be badly defeated they won’t take the risk (though they’ll be sorry in the long run).

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  79. @Rurik

    Trump who received 5 deferments during the Vietnam war is going to take the U.S. to war with Russia for his Zionist masters using Syria and Iran as catalysts, a war for Zionist Israel, and it will be a war to end all wars, nuclear.
     
    the solution is simple

    Putin simply states that the with the first Russian that dies in Syria due to Zionist/ZUS military action = Tel Aviv gets glassed.

    we all know these wars are all intended to bolster Israel. Duh. So why maintain the pretense when the Zio-Fiend has Moscow in the crosshairs?

    the existential question all Americans and all people of good will on the planet are going to have to ask themselves, is when the Fiend goes all out for world domination, by destroying the two remaining obstacles (Russia and China) to its Orwellian hell on earth it plans for all of us, what will we do when the call comes from Washington, DC - to every American and beyond, that..

    you're either with us / or against us

    when we refuse to support the war effort, and even oppose it..

    I guess I'll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?

    Agree, the Zionist elites think they can sit out the nuclear exchange in the DUMBs that are through out the U.S. ie deep underground military bases, like the one under the Denver airport, but we goyim are going to be slaughtered for the Zionist NWO.

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    under the Denver airport,
     
    I suspect something like this is going on in Patagonia as well

    hopefully, Russia and China and others are fully aware of their schemes, and have laid out a contingency plan that will demonstrate to the zio-fiend that there is nowhere to hide.

    if push comes to shove, and Putin is facing the military subjugation by the Fiend, (with all that would mean for Russia and the world)

    hopefully there is a plan, that lets them know they will be the first to go.
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  80. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    [Trump, for all his international experience as a businessman, is a novice at the step-by-step process required in diplomacy and in the development of a coherent foreign policy, so he is inevitably being directed by individuals who have long American global leadership by force if necessary.]

    Please stop fooling people by presenting a pathological crook businessman as ‘a novice’. This zionist criminal stooge knows what he is doing. Either you don’t understand your own criminal, militaristic, imperialist culture and history or pretending that you don’t know so you don’t take responsibility for millions of killings, millions of refugees, destruction of country after country, rape of thousands of Muslim women and men in their own countries that YOU have INVADED based on lies and deception. Stop your denial and attack your corrupt, criminal and blackmailer president directly that is treating the office as a family business to expand his own influence by promising ‘america first’ to dummies, where by now every one with more than 2 brain cell knows is a lie to fool people.
    John Bolton is a CRIMINAL, MASS MURDERER, WHERE SHOULD BE ARRESTED, instead your crook president who lied to dummies when he said he was AGAINST IRAQ WAR, makes him as ‘advisor’. So, this by itself is a strong piece of evidence that the zionist illiterate stooge is not ashamed that he knows shit about history but HE IS PROUD OF IT, he is A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR, CORRUPT, and mass murderer who has invaded number of countries for the past 14 months, while he told the dummies that he will do business with other countries instead of invading them to kill. Now everyone knows that HE LIED AGAIN. So stop blaming others.

    You should point out your own violent, criminal, imperialistic culture not on others or on ‘inexperienced president’ where he has enough experience in hotels and brothel houses. He like criminal Bush has come with an AGENDA, working closely with other criminals and zionist pimps like Mohammed Ben Salman, elSisi, zionist baby killer Netanyahu to implement his criminal design against humanity.

    People of the world are not going to listen to people who do not take responsibility for their own crimes against humanity. A criminal culture that put everyday a whore’s story who had played with president’s behind at the top of the news to feed the dummies, but none of these ‘news outlets’ talking about Trumps’ crimes against humanity in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Palestine, where HE HAS KILLED HUNDERES OF PEOPLE, including many children and made thousands more refugees.
    Stop protecting a crook, pathological liar and a zionist mass murderer. just to feel better. Even the illiterate Trump said: America is NOT INNOCENT.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/147351/political-corruption-art-deal

    The Red Sea 2015 “Secret Yacht Summit” that Realigned the Middle East
    Arab leaders from UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Jordan plotted to counter Turkey and Iran, and replace the GCC and Arab League

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-red-sea-2015-secret-yacht-summit-that-realigned-the-middle-east/5632786

    [George Nader, the Lebanese-American businessman, who is co-operating with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Donald Trump’s campaign funding, organised a secret summit of Arab leaders on a yacht in the Red Sea in late 2015, Middle East Eye can reveal.

    Nader proposed to the leaders gathered on the yacht that they should set up an elite regional group of six countries, which would supplant both the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) and the moribund Arab League.

    Nader said this group of states could become a force in the region “that the US government could depend on” to counter the influence of Turkey and Iran, according to two sources briefed on the meeting.

    Nader brought together Mohammed bin Salman, who was then deputy crown prince of Saudi Arabia; Mohammed bin Zayed, crown prince of Abu Dhabi; Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, president of Egypt; Prince Salman, crown prince of Bahrain; and King Abdullah of Jordan onto the yacht.

    Their respective states, plus Libya which was not represented at the secret summit, would form the nucleus of pro-US and pro-Israeli states.]

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  81. @Z-man

    Wouldn’t seem to be much point to that if Democrats take over over in 2018 [House = 70%; Senate = 40% according to predictions markets]
     
    According to what predictions? The Demokratz are even more bankrupt than the Republitards, the Senate will stay where it is and the Dems will gain in the house but not win it. It's all local.

    Trump is gonna be a lame duck in 2018-20.
     
    There's still nobody and I mean NOBODY from the other side that can take Trump on. Biden? Don't make me laugh. If a shining star comes out of nowhere within the next 18 months fine but I strongly doubt that happens.

    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don’t follow American politics closely these days, but that’s bad – real bad.

    Biden? Don’t make me laugh.

    Biden would beat Trump easy. So long as the Dems don’t run some far left harpy (e.g. Kamala Harris) – which, in fairness, they might well do – Trump is done for.

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    The voters, left and right, consist of 100% Zombie. This includes some of the mentally challenged author zombies at Unz who love to keep score and argue over the merits of the puppets just as much as the credulous children who enjoy their chicken scratch op-eds.

    What happens when one man gets to decide major issues? They're bribed. Steve Mnuchin gave so much money to Kamala Harris because he wanted him to dress nice for the elite puppet galas that the rich people organize.

    , @Z-man

    Biden would beat Trump easy.
     
    Again no. Biden is even a bigger clown. He wouldn't get any of the Sanders vote to begin with and the establishment Republitards would have a field day with his gaffs.
    But we digress, the problem now is the resurgence of the NEOCON beast.
    , @SolontoCroesus

    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don’t follow American politics closely these days, but that’s bad – real bad.
     
    If it's any consolation, it was a very close vote. The heart of (disgraced/resigned) Chris Murphy's old district (18) is NOT blue collar, it's white-collar conservatives w/ lots of Jews influencing local school districts in the area -- AISH and CHABAD both have large facilities just a few miles from Murphy's old local office.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "Biden would beat Trump easy."

    You ain't from 'round here, are you, boy?
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  82. I do not think that Trumph is an independent president and can launch a war on Iran without the authority of the real powers in America and neither can Bolton. However much the powers in USA and Israel want to do this, they cannot and will not. The West and the US has been tippytoeing towards Russia for two decades and more and Russia and China both know this. A line has been drawn in Syria and it will either end there with vitriolic being poured by both sides ad nauseam for a new cold war or it will escalate quickly and we will be incarcerated before we can comprehend whats happening. Not a bad way to go, almost like saying aloha while sleeping and if in Japan “Sayonora”. . Ta Da baby

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  83. I do not think that Trumph is an independent president and can launch a war on Iran without the authority of the real powers in America and neither can Bolton. However much the powers in USA and Israel want to do this, they cannot and will not. The West and the US has been tippytoeing towards Russia for two decades and more and Russia and China both know this. A line has been drawn in Syria and it will either end there with vitriolic being poured by both sides ad nauseam for a new cold war or it will escalate quickly and we will be incarcerated before we can comprehend whats happening. Not a bad way to go, almost like saying aloha while sleeping and if in Japan “Sayonora”. . Ta Da baby
    But a new concept is th hypersonic missile and the president and the congress both have a target painted on their backs now. SOOOOOOOOOOOO Noooooooooooooooo WAR

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  84. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus
    "We cannot overestimate how catastrophically bad this is...Oh, and now that Donald Trump has gone full-blown Neocon, he has also destroyed the Republican Party and ruined any hopes of his political future."

    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer's remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?

    Is the mask finally coming off of Trump for even his most ardent supporters to realize he is not a "God-Emperor"?

    Or will Trump magically "reinvent himself", with his shills and toadies once again screeching in unison "MAGA"?

    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer’s remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?

    no

    what it says is that the people who voted for Trump are moral, and that we rejected contrived zio-wars that slaughter innocent people.

    Just like Americans rejected the war when they voted for Wilson, and he promised to keep us out of the war. But the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    Americans rejected the war when they voted for FDR, when he promised to keep us out of the zio-WWII- but the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    and we rejected the satanic zio-wars in the Middle East, when we elected Trump, and he promised to end the evil being done in our name, but the zio-scum are dragging us in, though treachery, as usual

    but, even with all of that, it’s still ragingly obvious that even as Trump is betraying all of us Deplorables, and betraying the decent people of the planet, who held so much hope in him, as he’s succumbing to the zio-treachery of The Fiend

    still, STILL – he is gazillion to the ~nth power, better in every way over the war hag.

    for one, if the American electorate would have voted for the war sow, then that would mean that we are truly irredeemable, and unapologetic for the unprecedented evils the zio-American government has been perpetrating all over the globe.

    but by rejecting the cackling war sow, that means that Americans aspired to be decent people, and were hoping that maybe even the war hag, and her counterpart Obama, might even be sent to the Hague to be charged for war crimes, and then put in a cage, where they belong. Or hanged by the neck, if found guilty.

    so by electing Trump, even as he has turned out to betray us all too, at least we tried to end the Fiend’s Eternal Wars. And give the planet some shred of hope, for a future without the zio-scum destroying all of our lives, even as they murder their way across the planet.

    So go ahead and do your victory dance Corvy, and high-five your homies. It looks like Trump is just another zio-tool, and your agenda will reign ascendant after all.

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    So, all of anglo-evil is purely because of zio-scum? Hmm... nope.

    Such deflection is always so transparent and tiring.

    The anglo-deplorable-losers "rejected" the zio-wars because their wretched lives were getting even more miserable.

    Perhaps the likes of Rurik may still cling on to a modicum of morality, given some of your posts, but most of your white supremacist brethren, wouldn't give a flying fcuk to the spilling of brown "muzzie" blood. In fact, the more the better, right?

    If they actually cared about humanity, one of your saintly kind would have drilled a neat hole on top the fugly witch who spewed, "it was worth it," that is, given your kind's propensity to drill such holes for the most minor of faults (e.g. Adam Purinton).
    I take her name especially because of the little lives who paid for such inhumanity.

    The anglo-scum and the zio-scum form the basis of, Synergy of Evil.

    , @Rogue
    I like your reply to Mr Smartass, but there is one detail I must pick up on.

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so? After all, Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and declared war on the US. A week later Germany declared war on the US as well.

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round. The treaty Germany had with Japan certainly didn't oblige them to so act, as it was a defensive treaty.

    Very possibly the USA would have gone to war with Germany anyway, but that we can only speculate on.

    Can you further enlighten me?

    , @Corvinus
    "what it says is that the people who voted for Trump are moral..."

    You are delusional. Trump is the epitome of immorality. It is laughable that some of Trump's supporters overlook his obvious character flaws. You are no different than the Joos you rail on for protecting "their own kind".

    "Just like Americans rejected the war when they voted for Wilson, and he promised to keep us out of the war. But the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery."

    No, it didn't happen like that. More complicated than what you make it out to be.

    "Americans rejected the war when they voted for FDR, when he promised to keep us out of the zio-WWII- but the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery."

    No, it didn't happen like that. More complicated than what you make it out to be.

    "and we rejected the satanic zio-wars in the Middle East, when we elected Trump, and he promised to end the evil being done in our name, but the zio-scum are dragging us in, though treachery, as usual".

    No, it didn't happen like that. More complicated than what you make it out to be.

    "but, even with all of that, it’s still ragingly obvious that even as Trump is betraying all of us Deplorables, and betraying the decent people of the planet, who held so much hope in him, as he’s succumbing to the zio-treachery of The Fiend"

    Newsflash--he was ALWAYS going to "succumb to the Fiend". How you didn't notice it from the start has your knickers in a twist because you were duped.

    "still, STILL – he is gazillion to the ~nth power, better in every way over the war hag."

    Again, more delusion on your part, not that Shitlery was any better.

    "for one, if the American electorate would have voted for the war sow, then that would mean that we are truly irredeemable, and unapologetic for the unprecedented evils the zio-American government has been perpetrating all over the globe."

    All your lies are belong to us.
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  85. Rurik says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Agree, the Zionist elites think they can sit out the nuclear exchange in the DUMBs that are through out the U.S. ie deep underground military bases, like the one under the Denver airport, but we goyim are going to be slaughtered for the Zionist NWO.

    under the Denver airport,

    I suspect something like this is going on in Patagonia as well

    hopefully, Russia and China and others are fully aware of their schemes, and have laid out a contingency plan that will demonstrate to the zio-fiend that there is nowhere to hide.

    if push comes to shove, and Putin is facing the military subjugation by the Fiend, (with all that would mean for Russia and the world)

    hopefully there is a plan, that lets them know they will be the first to go.

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  86. Sean says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    You lead your readers to scepticism when you refer the British "liquidating the ethnic Chinese in Malaya" as it is such a gross exaggeration. Indeed Chinese (mostly brought in as cheap labour for the rubber plantations I guess) were the backbone of the Communist insurgency in Malaya but I am surprised you suggest that the situation was anything like that in South Vietnam. Source? Evidence? (I remember wondering why the lessons of the Malayan insurgency couldn't be applied in Vietnam. I suspect that part of the reason wss that separating loyal or indifferent ethnic Vietnamese peasants from ethnically distinct terrorists and insurgents was precluded by the demographic reality).

    The Malaysian Chinese were brought in by the Jap army mainly, and the British put them into concentration camps and then expelled them.

    https://law.yale.edu/yls-today/news/professor-amy-chua-publishes-book-political-tribes
    Chua devotes a chapter of her book examining the Vietnam War. Viewing the war through a Cold War communist-versus-capitalist lens, Chua argues, the U.S. completely missed the ethnic dimension of that conflict, which to this day remains almost completely unknown. Inside Vietnam, a deeply resented one percent ethnic Chinese minority controlled as much as 80 percent of the country’s commercial wealth. In other words, a vastly disproportionate number of Vietnam’s “capitalists” were seen as exploitative outsiders, despised by the Vietnamese, both northern and southern. Because we overlooked the ethnic side of the conflict, Chua writes, the U.S. failed to see that every pro-capitalist step it took in Vietnam only inflamed popular resentment. And the United States has persisted in this group blindness abroad, contributing directly to the debacles in Iraq, Venezuela, and Afghanistan.

    As in so many places the clever minority were disproportionately dominant in everything they did. Accordingly in south Vietnam, younger Chinese joined the gorillas to a notable extent and made up a high proportion of the VC, especially in command structure (eliminated in the Tet Offensive). Saigon’s Chinese district was notoriously dangerous for GIs .

    Ethnic Chinese were all kicked out as the Boat People of course. McMaster wrote a book about the failure of civilian leadership to understand what was needed in the Vietnam war but he failed to grasp the constraints in Nam, because the proven proclivity of the Chinese for intervention (eg in Korea) meant that the US was chary about what might provoke China, and they would never have allowed a Phoenix Program against ethnic Chinese as such. Anyway, expulsion works

    https://www.vdare.com/articles/is-population-transfer-the-solution-to-the-palestinian-problem-and-some-others

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  87. iffen says:
    @peterAUS
    Not necessarily.
    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it's feasible and quite possible.

    But, it would require occupying the shores there.

    Perhaps we will have forward placed assets on the sandbars. :)

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    Well....the only way to try to keep the Hormuz open is to have control all along that coast. Troops there.....

    A huge undertaking requiring a major effort from USA and allies.

    It will, should it happen, be a major regional war demanding proper (heavy) divisions and such.In essence an effort similar to both Iraqi wars.

    I believe it could be done.

    Is it likely, well, looking at all this recent in D.C.....probably. I'd say 70/30.
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  88. iffen says:
    @Randal
    We can agree on that, for sure. It's what I've been saying for over 20 years now.

    We can agree on that, for sure.

    I keep telling you that I’m on the same side as you, but you keep rejecting it.

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    Nobody like you who believes in suppressing free political speech, as you do, is "on my side". At most, we might share objectives in some particular disputes.
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  89. ValmMond says:
    @Sean
    The explanation from Russia is that the nerve gas came from the British defence lab Porton Down which is not very far from where the poisoning took place. Unlike certain countries where people get drunk and cause nuclear power station catastrophes or almost start WW3 over Norwegian weather research (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident) we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us against them and was swapped for Anna Chapman, not unless we never want anyone to work for us again, eh? Proof beyond reasonable doubt does not mean there is no chance of a mistake anyway, but it is much more likely than anything else that the Russian state did it on Putin's orders. Skripal was branded a 'traitor' and a 'bastard' on state TV in Russia, so them playing the innocent again won't work. Not again .

    we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us

    Because when MI6 or its anonymous analysts have ever lied to anyone. Like Sadam’s WMD, Assad’s chemical barrel bombs, Litvinienko’s plutonium https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/17/litvinenko-and-the-demise-of-british-justice/
    and the innocence of every single British politician ever accused of pedophilia, the truth in the UK is drown out in a myriad of loud and incessant lies.

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  90. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam--backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton's appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

    Forward “(JTA) — Jewish organizations sparred over the views of H.R. McMaster, the national security advisor, with the Zionist Organization of America attacking him as anti-Israel and the American Jewish Committee defending him.

    ZOA, one of the few Jewish organizations to consistently defend President Trump, issued a report on Thursday sharply critical of McMaster.

    In the report, ZOA claims that McMaster is undermining Trump’s Middle East agenda and the relationship between the United States and Israel by firing officials supportive of the Jewish state and critical of the Iran nuclear deal, including Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the hawkish former senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council.

    The report calls on Trump “to remove General McMaster from his current position and reassign him to another position where he can do no further harm on these critical national security issues.”

    Dan Shapiro, who served as ambassador to Israel under President Barack Obama, and the American Jewish Committee criticized the ZOA report.

    “ZOA claims, on the flimsiest of pretexts that McMaster has ‘animus toward Israel’ and ‘opposes Trump’s pro-Israel policies’,” Shapiro tweeted. “Nonsense. Every Israeli official who met McMaster has found him to be deeply sympathetic, friendly, consistent with longstanding U.S. support for Israel.”

    Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/379615/jewish-groups-spar-over-trump-national-security-adviser-mcmaster-s-israel-r/”

    shows the most radical among the Jewish population and among the leaders of the population always win . This pattern has an unbroken record from 1917 . Then the radical fanatics destructive philosophy becomes mainstream in one or one and half decades.

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    In the report, ZOA claims that McMaster is undermining Trump’s Middle East agenda and the relationship between the United States and Israel by firing officials supportive of the Jewish state and critical of the Iran nuclear deal, including Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the hawkish former senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council
     
    Glad you posted this.

    Here is the ZOA Report in full.

    https://zoa.org/2017/08/10371905-zoa-nscs-mcmaster-reassign-him-to-area-not-dealing-with-israel-or-iran/

    It goes into great detail on everyone McMaster fired. Who were mostly Jewish Zionist hawks who were writing papers on and pushing a US war on Iran. It names many people....and the one mentioned above for instance, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was put into place by Frank Gaffney who got a friend of Gen.Flynn to suggest hiring him. Another example in the report is Adam Lovinger, who was demoted after being seen in possession of and reading top secret documents on a commercial airline flight. Of course the ZOA neglects to mention the back story on these two...or others.

    The ZOA presented their report to Trump as McMaster firing all the "pro Trump' people because McMaster was 'hostile to Trump'. Of course this ploy worked with Trump 's anti everything Obama and because all he thinks of is who is loyal to him. They know how to play idiot Trump, just as the Bush adm Zios; Feith, Perle Abrams, Gaffney, Leeden, Wolfowitz, knew how to play Bush's ego and daddy complex to get him to invade Iraq.

    As said....''Iran hawks are predictably attributing McMaster’s decisions to supposed “hostility to Israel,” but that doesn’t mean much coming from people that define being “pro-Israel” as narrowly as possible. If all of the people McMaster fired happened to be “pro-Israel” Iran hawks opposed to the nuclear deal, that just reminds us that virtually everyone in the Trump administration fits that description.''

    Here's the kick start. If you are a patriot read the whole thing to see how they operate and lie.


    ''The duties of the National Security Council (NSC) include “coordinat[ing] and direct[ing] the activities of the United States Government relating to combating transnational threats.” 50 U.S.C. § 3021(i). It is thus alarming that National Security Advisor Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster purged from the NSC those officials who were carrying out President Trump’s policies of combating Iranian and radical Islamist transnational threats, and purged from the NSC those officials who support the U.S.-Israel alliance – an alliance that is vital to America’s ability to combat radical Islamist terrorism.
    Instead, General McMaster has appointed officials who are holdovers from the Obama administration, who favor the Iran nuclear deal and are hostile to Israel – officials who are diametrically opposed to President Trump’s policies. Moreover, new revelations demonstrate that General McMaster’s ideology is antagonistic to the President’s policies on these vital issues. The ZOA thus urges President Trump to remove General McMaster from his current position and reassign him to another position where he can do no further harm on these critical national security issues. General McMaster should not maintain a position where he can continue to undermine President Trump’s policies on Iran, Israel and the fight against “radical Islamic terrorism” – a term that General McMaster believes should not even be used''
     
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  91. RobinG says:
    @Joe Levantine
    "Casting ballots is for suckers."
    Awesome reality stated in such a little sentence. The inverters of reality, an evil cabal without any capacity for creativity, can only distort the true and great achievements of humanity in the service of their misanthropic ends, thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ' representative democracy' which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.

    Awesome reality stated in “Casting ballots is for suckers.”

    So what’s YOUR PLAN for righting the ship? Or is this your brand of virtue signaling?

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    RobinG, there's more to civil society than electoral politics. Even before you saw the DNC and Podesta emails, you had to know your electoral ceremony had futility built in. The Electoral Integrity Project ranks US elections last among Western nations.

    https://theconversation.com/american-elections-ranked-worst-among-western-democracies-heres-why-56485

    Gilens and Page already proved that you're not rich enough to have any say in elections.

    If you went into a restaurant and there were always two items on the menu, the shit sandwich and the low-fat shit sandwich, Would you eat there? Of course not, you'd firebomb the place.

    There's an alternative staring you in the face. Treaty bodies, charter bodies, and special procedures have forced more reform than any elections in the past twenty years. And those processes are much more open to public participation, because they draw on inputs from independent civil society organizations that the duopoly parties ruthlessly suppress.

    One way to get involved is: ushrnetwork.org
    Another is blackallianceforpeace.com
    A third is economichumanrights.org

    Get into that instead of party politics and interesting things happen. You stop wasting your time on two- or four-year cycles where you pick a predetermined side and sit and wave your pom-poms in the stands, recite slogans that change nothing, and get screwed again and again. You have a different set of four-year cycles: treaty body review of binding human rights instruments, which oversee your government based on comprehensive world-standard criteria, chapter and verse. Unlike your authorized political parties, they actually, institutionally give a shit what you think. You see them working with your civil society organizations to pin down government derelictions in Geneva in the most public forum in the world. The US government doesn't care what you think, but they are exquisitely sensitive to international pressure.

    When your government loses your trust, you go over its head to the world.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    Got a look at the next generation of voters and their plan to REV up USA:

    -Register
    -Educate
    -Vote

    VOTE THEM OUT was one of the snowflake children's primary battle cries, "them" being anyone who does not agree with banning automatic weapons and universal background checks; declaring gun violence a national health issue, which will mean schools can acquire federal funding for mental health counselors etc. in every school;

    then,
    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, followed by
    NEVER AGAIN.

    (That last one worked well for Palestinians and others in the Middle East, didn't it?)

    The insistence on Background Checks has nothing to do with school safety and everything to do with government and other super-snoops having access to a complete dossier on every person in USA -- his/her medical, financial, social, political, etc. choices and activities. I'm agin it.

    Likewise, I'm totally opposed to more mental health "screening and counseling," not just in schools but everywhere. It smacks of Bolshevism.
    , @Joe Levantine
    I am glad you asked for my plan, even though I admit that there no one size fits all.
    First, extreme decentralisation.
    Second, electing rulers who should assume direct responsibility for their deeds without being able to hide behind the intricacies of a system of checks and balances.
    Third, Direct democracy by people voting on any issue of major importance especially wars, defence spending and taxes.
    Forth, an education system that frees the individual's mind from all the methodical programming that we are subjected to at schools and universities. More of an education system that emphasises unhindered creativity, frankness, freedom of speech without the shackles of political correctness, and ethical behaviour.
    In short, small, accountable government that leaves the people to assume responsibility for their deeds or actions without exentricities such as R2P or social engineering and the rest of the so called modern day liberal bullshit.
    Jacques Sheet is one commentator who can see beyond the majority of most Westerners; he sensed that American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.
    If you have a solution please state it. If you don't, continue casting your ballots for the next layer of governmental fraudsters in our great representative democracy.
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  92. peterAUS says:
    @iffen
    But, it would require occupying the shores there.

    Perhaps we will have forward placed assets on the sandbars. :)

    Well….the only way to try to keep the Hormuz open is to have control all along that coast. Troops there…..

    A huge undertaking requiring a major effort from USA and allies.

    It will, should it happen, be a major regional war demanding proper (heavy) divisions and such.In essence an effort similar to both Iraqi wars.

    I believe it could be done.

    Is it likely, well, looking at all this recent in D.C…..probably. I’d say 70/30.

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    from USA and allies.

    Would our BFF in the ME get involved? I think so.
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  93. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don't follow American politics closely these days, but that's bad - real bad.

    Biden? Don’t make me laugh.
     
    Biden would beat Trump easy. So long as the Dems don't run some far left harpy (e.g. Kamala Harris) - which, in fairness, they might well do - Trump is done for.

    The voters, left and right, consist of 100% Zombie. This includes some of the mentally challenged author zombies at Unz who love to keep score and argue over the merits of the puppets just as much as the credulous children who enjoy their chicken scratch op-eds.

    What happens when one man gets to decide major issues? They’re bribed. Steve Mnuchin gave so much money to Kamala Harris because he wanted him to dress nice for the elite puppet galas that the rich people organize.

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  94. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    Trump who received 5 deferments during the Vietnam war is going to take the U.S. to war with Russia for his Zionist masters using Syria and Iran as catalysts, a war for Zionist Israel, and it will be a war to end all wars, nuclear.
     
    the solution is simple

    Putin simply states that the with the first Russian that dies in Syria due to Zionist/ZUS military action = Tel Aviv gets glassed.

    we all know these wars are all intended to bolster Israel. Duh. So why maintain the pretense when the Zio-Fiend has Moscow in the crosshairs?

    the existential question all Americans and all people of good will on the planet are going to have to ask themselves, is when the Fiend goes all out for world domination, by destroying the two remaining obstacles (Russia and China) to its Orwellian hell on earth it plans for all of us, what will we do when the call comes from Washington, DC - to every American and beyond, that..

    you're either with us / or against us

    when we refuse to support the war effort, and even oppose it..

    I guess I'll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?

    I guess I’ll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?

    I’d rather be locked up in Gitmo surrounded by decent people who are willing to speak truth to power and fight against the NWO, than roam free among the clueless cucks and libtards who eagerly await the ushering in of the Zionist dystopia that awaits them, let alone battle against it.

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    Thanks Geo,

    and same to you

    did you get a load of this one?


    iffen says:

    March 24, 2018 at 8:06 pm GMT
    @Randal

    We can agree on that, for sure.

    I keep telling you that I’m on the same side as you, but you keep rejecting it.
     
    I confess I got a good belly laugh out of that one ;)

    looks like poor lil' orphan iffen is lost without his mommy Maven, and keeps getting 'rejected'
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  95. iffen says:
    @peterAUS
    Well....the only way to try to keep the Hormuz open is to have control all along that coast. Troops there.....

    A huge undertaking requiring a major effort from USA and allies.

    It will, should it happen, be a major regional war demanding proper (heavy) divisions and such.In essence an effort similar to both Iraqi wars.

    I believe it could be done.

    Is it likely, well, looking at all this recent in D.C.....probably. I'd say 70/30.

    from USA and allies.

    Would our BFF in the ME get involved? I think so.

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    A clear argument for the criminalization of dual citizenship.
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  97. geokat62 says:

    than roam free among the clueless cucks and libtards

    Apologies to the clueless PEAbrains for forgetting to include them in this list.

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  98. QNA says:
    @RobinG

    Awesome reality stated in “Casting ballots is for suckers.”
     
    So what's YOUR PLAN for righting the ship? Or is this your brand of virtue signaling?

    RobinG, there’s more to civil society than electoral politics. Even before you saw the DNC and Podesta emails, you had to know your electoral ceremony had futility built in. The Electoral Integrity Project ranks US elections last among Western nations.

    https://theconversation.com/american-elections-ranked-worst-among-western-democracies-heres-why-56485

    Gilens and Page already proved that you’re not rich enough to have any say in elections.

    If you went into a restaurant and there were always two items on the menu, the shit sandwich and the low-fat shit sandwich, Would you eat there? Of course not, you’d firebomb the place.

    There’s an alternative staring you in the face. Treaty bodies, charter bodies, and special procedures have forced more reform than any elections in the past twenty years. And those processes are much more open to public participation, because they draw on inputs from independent civil society organizations that the duopoly parties ruthlessly suppress.

    One way to get involved is: ushrnetwork.org
    Another is blackallianceforpeace.com
    A third is economichumanrights.org

    Get into that instead of party politics and interesting things happen. You stop wasting your time on two- or four-year cycles where you pick a predetermined side and sit and wave your pom-poms in the stands, recite slogans that change nothing, and get screwed again and again. You have a different set of four-year cycles: treaty body review of binding human rights instruments, which oversee your government based on comprehensive world-standard criteria, chapter and verse. Unlike your authorized political parties, they actually, institutionally give a shit what you think. You see them working with your civil society organizations to pin down government derelictions in Geneva in the most public forum in the world. The US government doesn’t care what you think, but they are exquisitely sensitive to international pressure.

    When your government loses your trust, you go over its head to the world.

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    QNA: "One way to get involved is: ushrnetwork.org"
     
    Here's one of [your] brilliant USHRN Organization Members in action -

    Amnesty International: Trumpeting for War… Again

    One must marvel at the first few paragraphs of Amnesty International’s recent press release:
    [It's] an unambiguous call and a justification for war; it seems that AI is calling for a NATO bombing campaign similar to the one staged in Libya in 2011. There is also no ambiguity as to who AI deems to be culpable and ought to be at the receiving end of a “humanitarian bombing” campaign. Before cheering yet another US/NATO war, it is useful to analyse Amnesty International’s record in assisting propaganda campaigns on the eve of wars. It is also worthwhile reviewing AI’s reporting on Syria, and how it compares with that on other countries in the area.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/23/100699/print/
     
    Also, re. your "advice," my first concern is war, not identity politics.
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  99. Z-man says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don't follow American politics closely these days, but that's bad - real bad.

    Biden? Don’t make me laugh.
     
    Biden would beat Trump easy. So long as the Dems don't run some far left harpy (e.g. Kamala Harris) - which, in fairness, they might well do - Trump is done for.

    Biden would beat Trump easy.

    Again no. Biden is even a bigger clown. He wouldn’t get any of the Sanders vote to begin with and the establishment Republitards would have a field day with his gaffs.
    But we digress, the problem now is the resurgence of the NEOCON beast.

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    Biden is even a bigger clown
     
    http://i.imgur.com/aVeeSUE.jpg

    I got a chuckle out of that one
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  100. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    I guess I’ll see a few of you at Gitmo, eh?
     
    I’d rather be locked up in Gitmo surrounded by decent people who are willing to speak truth to power and fight against the NWO, than roam free among the clueless cucks and libtards who eagerly await the ushering in of the Zionist dystopia that awaits them, let alone battle against it.

    Thanks Geo,

    and same to you

    did you get a load of this one?

    iffen says:

    March 24, 2018 at 8:06 pm GMT


    We can agree on that, for sure.

    I keep telling you that I’m on the same side as you, but you keep rejecting it.

    I confess I got a good belly laugh out of that one ;)

    looks like poor lil’ orphan iffen is lost without his mommy Maven, and keeps getting ‘rejected’

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  101. Randal says:
    @peterAUS
    Not necessarily.
    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it's feasible and quite possible.

    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it’s feasible and quite possible.

    Of course it’s feasible, just like overthrowing the government of Iraq and occupying that country was feasible, and keeping the collaboration government in power in most of South Vietnam was feasible – we are talking about a superpower versus a medium sized regional power. The issue is whether it is feasible at any remotely acceptable cost, and for how long the US can bear the ongoing costs politically and economically, and what the diplomatic price of yet another such blatantly illegal military aggression will be.

    Occupying the Persian Gulf shores is obviously do-able, but as you say it is a full blown war operation, which will require the destruction of Iranian air defences, and of major mobile Iranian military forces, and of Iranian missile capabilities and the ongoing protection of the occupying forces from active military harassment. This will have to be done illegally and most likely in the face of active, if not official, Russian support to the Iranian military, and Chinese economic support. Even if US pressure can halt trains through Azerbaijan and the ‘Stans, cargo ships full of Russian weapons and “volunteers”, financed by China, who will if they have any sense also take the opportunity to get some experience for their own “volunteers” as well, will be landing regularly at Iran’s Caspian Sea ports, under Russian air cover. In the initial phase there will likely have been significant damage around the region from Iranian missiles to military and oil infrastructure, and harassment of such targets will continue. The Iranian military is not the Iraqi military of 2003, demoralised and under-equipped by years of sanctions and isolation, and nor is it inexperienced in modern warfare, after Iraq and Syria. Meanwhile, US forces and assets in Iraq will be targeted by local Iranian sympathisers, and likewise in Afghanistan, where attacks on US forces will suddenly have access to heavier weapons , air defences and artillery than they ever have so far.

    Fortunately, the US is solidly politically united and well capable of bearing heavy ongoing losses in a war on the other side of the planet that is not remotely in its national interest, and has sound economic fundamentals that will allow it to easily sustain the ongoing massive equipment replacement and logistical costs in the global economic collapse environment created after a massive spike in the price of oil.[/sarcasm]

    But of course, none of that might happen. There’s always the possibility, ever-beloved of warmongers, that US troops finally will actually have a war whose costs do not massively exceed what its advocates claim.

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    Of course it’s feasible, just like overthrowing the government of Iraq and occupying that country was feasible, and keeping the collaboration government in power in most of South Vietnam was feasible – we are talking about a superpower versus a medium sized regional power. The issue is whether it is feasible at any remotely acceptable cost, and for how long the US can bear the ongoing costs politically and economically, and what the diplomatic price of yet another such blatantly illegal military aggression will be.

    Occupying the Persian Gulf shores is obviously do-able, but as you say it is a full blown war operation, which will require the destruction of Iranian air defences, and of major mobile Iranian military forces, and of Iranian missile capabilities and the ongoing protection of the occupying forces from active military harassment.
     
    Yes.

    And, yes for the rest of it except

    ....capable of bearing heavy ongoing losses in a war...
     
    I don't see "heavy". Moderate to light.

    As for:

    There’s always the possibility, ever-beloved of warmongers, that US troops finally will actually have a war whose costs do not massively exceed what its advocates claim.
     
    Irrelevant for at least first 3 months of that war.
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  102. Rurik says:
    @Z-man

    Biden would beat Trump easy.
     
    Again no. Biden is even a bigger clown. He wouldn't get any of the Sanders vote to begin with and the establishment Republitards would have a field day with his gaffs.
    But we digress, the problem now is the resurgence of the NEOCON beast.

    Biden is even a bigger clown

    I got a chuckle out of that one

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    David Hogg graduated from Rodondo Shores High School in California and is not a student of MSD High School, and is a crisis actor involved in the false flag that the deep state pulled of at MSD.

    The whole deal at MSD is a gun control psy ops just like Sandy Hook where the school was closed in 2008, total B.S..
    , @renfro
    Joe Biden: "I Am A Zionist. You Don't Have To Be A Jew To Be A ...
    ▶ 1:32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbUPVC4u5M
    Nov 13, 2017 - Uploaded by MediaVidShare2:57. CREEPY UNCLE JOE - Duration: 10:55.

    'Biden told US Jews that Israel - not America - guaranteed their ...
    www.jpost.com/.../Biden-told-US-Jews-that-Israel-not-America-guaranteed-their-secur...
    Mar 31, 2015 - Vice President Joe Biden told a gathering of prominent American Jewish officials last fall that they should look to Israel - and not the United States - as the ultimate guarantor of their community's long-term safety. The surprising remarks, which were made during a Rosh Hashana celebration attended by ...


    Get a vomit bag before reading further.

    POLITICO44 Blog

    Biden: 'Jewish heritage is American heritage'
    By JENNIFER EPSTEIN
    05/21/2013 08:07 PM EDT

    Vice President Joe Biden spoke at length Tuesday night about the influence of Judaism on the United States, dating back to the country's founding and to the present day as Jews helped shape views on gay rights.
    “The truth is that Jewish heritage, Jewish culture, Jewish values are such an essential part of who we are that it’s fair to say that Jewish heritage is American heritage,” he said. “The Jewish people have contributed greatly to America. No group has had such an outsized influence per capita as all of you standing before you, and all of those who went before me and all of those who went before you.”
    “You make up 11 percent of the seats in the United States Congress. You make up one-third of all Nobel laureates,” he said. “So many notions that are embraced by this nation that particularly emanate from over 5,000 years of Jewish history, tradition and culture: independence, individualism, fairness, decency, justice, charity. These are all as you say, as I learned early on as a Catholic being educated by my friends, this tzedakah.”
    “The embrace of immigration” is part of that, as is the involvement of Jews in social justice movements.
    “You can’t talk about the civil rights movement in this country without talking about Jewish freedom riders and Jack Greenberg,” he said, telling a story about seeing a group of Jewish activists at a segregated movie theater in Delaware. “You can’t talk about the women’s movement without talking about Betty Friedan” or American advances in science and technology without mentioning Einstein and Carl Sagan, or music and Gershwin, Bob Dylan and “so, so, so many other people.”
    “I believe what affects the movements in America, what affects our attitudes in America are as much the culture and the arts as anything else,” he said. That’s why he spoke out on gay marriage “apparently a little ahead of time.”
    “It wasn’t anything we legislatively did. It was ‘Will and Grace,’ it was the social media. Literally. That’s what changed peoples’ attitudes. That’s why I was so certain that the vast majority of people would embrace and rapidly embrace” gay marriage, Biden said.
    “Think behind of all that, I bet you 85 percent of those changes, whether it’s in Hollywood or social media are a consequence of Jewish leaders in the industry. The influence is immense, the influence is immense. And, I might add, it is all to the good,” he said.
    “Jewish heritage has shaped who we are – all of us, us, me – as much or more than any other factor in the last 223 years. And that’s a fact," he said.
    “We talk about it in terms of the incredible accomplishments and contributions” of Jews in America, Biden added, but it’s deeper “because the values, the values are so deep and so engrained in American culture, in our Constitution.”
    “So I think you, as usual, underestimate the impact of Jewish heritage. I really mean that. I think you vastly underestimate the impact you’ve had on the development of this nation. We owe you, we owe generations who came before you," he said.''
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  103. Randal says:
    @iffen
    We can agree on that, for sure.

    I keep telling you that I'm on the same side as you, but you keep rejecting it.

    Nobody like you who believes in suppressing free political speech, as you do, is “on my side”. At most, we might share objectives in some particular disputes.

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    Nobody like you who believes in suppressing free political speech, as you do, is “on my side”.

    Well, I can see the totalitarian SJWs making hay while the sun shines with your idealized “free speech.” You can ignore the consequences of tolerating the intolerant if you want.

    Soldier on, Randal, soldier on.
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  104. chris says:

    Bolton makes Nikki Haley look like some rabid anti-semite.

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  105. @iffen
    What was your point?

    It's time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K.

    iffen reflected (?) and wrote: “It’s time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K.”

    Hi iffen,

    Oh man, how lucky for me to have read your unique idea, above!

    Guess what, iffy?

    In today’s mail, I received a confirmation from State Department, and beginning April 2nd, I become ZUS Ambassador to Borneo. My embassy residence will be in the capital city, Pongo-Pongo. Central air conditioning and a hot tub!

    Based upon your fine recommendation, asap, I will meet with the Bornean Queen, Stormy Dan-tsunami, and threaten to break off diplomatic relations unless she purchases a (used) F35 and I could grope her whenever the mood strikes.

    Thanks, iffen! I knew you had it “in you” and I do not mean the Maven’s member.

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    Hey Woodchucker, long time, no habla. Can't say that I've missed it.

    I hope that you are giving Melissa's twat the face-time that it deserves. Adopt those bastards and make real Muricans out of them.

    Sam seems to be MIA. He must be on some secret Mossad op.

    Our new NSA Director wants you to consider re-upping.
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  106. renfro says:
    @anon
    Forward "(JTA) — Jewish organizations sparred over the views of H.R. McMaster, the national security advisor, with the Zionist Organization of America attacking him as anti-Israel and the American Jewish Committee defending him.

    ZOA, one of the few Jewish organizations to consistently defend President Trump, issued a report on Thursday sharply critical of McMaster.

    In the report, ZOA claims that McMaster is undermining Trump’s Middle East agenda and the relationship between the United States and Israel by firing officials supportive of the Jewish state and critical of the Iran nuclear deal, including Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the hawkish former senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council.

    The report calls on Trump “to remove General McMaster from his current position and reassign him to another position where he can do no further harm on these critical national security issues.”

    Dan Shapiro, who served as ambassador to Israel under President Barack Obama, and the American Jewish Committee criticized the ZOA report.

    “ZOA claims, on the flimsiest of pretexts that McMaster has ‘animus toward Israel’ and ‘opposes Trump’s pro-Israel policies’,” Shapiro tweeted. “Nonsense. Every Israeli official who met McMaster has found him to be deeply sympathetic, friendly, consistent with longstanding U.S. support for Israel.”

    Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/379615/jewish-groups-spar-over-trump-national-security-adviser-mcmaster-s-israel-r/"

    shows the most radical among the Jewish population and among the leaders of the population always win . This pattern has an unbroken record from 1917 . Then the radical fanatics destructive philosophy becomes mainstream in one or one and half decades.

    In the report, ZOA claims that McMaster is undermining Trump’s Middle East agenda and the relationship between the United States and Israel by firing officials supportive of the Jewish state and critical of the Iran nuclear deal, including Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the hawkish former senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council

    Glad you posted this.

    Here is the ZOA Report in full.

    https://zoa.org/2017/08/10371905-zoa-nscs-mcmaster-reassign-him-to-area-not-dealing-with-israel-or-iran/

    It goes into great detail on everyone McMaster fired. Who were mostly Jewish Zionist hawks who were writing papers on and pushing a US war on Iran. It names many people….and the one mentioned above for instance, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was put into place by Frank Gaffney who got a friend of Gen.Flynn to suggest hiring him. Another example in the report is Adam Lovinger, who was demoted after being seen in possession of and reading top secret documents on a commercial airline flight. Of course the ZOA neglects to mention the back story on these two…or others.

    The ZOA presented their report to Trump as McMaster firing all the “pro Trump’ people because McMaster was ‘hostile to Trump’. Of course this ploy worked with Trump ‘s anti everything Obama and because all he thinks of is who is loyal to him. They know how to play idiot Trump, just as the Bush adm Zios; Feith, Perle Abrams, Gaffney, Leeden, Wolfowitz, knew how to play Bush’s ego and daddy complex to get him to invade Iraq.

    As said….”Iran hawks are predictably attributing McMaster’s decisions to supposed “hostility to Israel,” but that doesn’t mean much coming from people that define being “pro-Israel” as narrowly as possible. If all of the people McMaster fired happened to be “pro-Israel” Iran hawks opposed to the nuclear deal, that just reminds us that virtually everyone in the Trump administration fits that description.”

    Here’s the kick start. If you are a patriot read the whole thing to see how they operate and lie.

    ”The duties of the National Security Council (NSC) include “coordinat[ing] and direct[ing] the activities of the United States Government relating to combating transnational threats.” 50 U.S.C. § 3021(i). It is thus alarming that National Security Advisor Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster purged from the NSC those officials who were carrying out President Trump’s policies of combating Iranian and radical Islamist transnational threats, and purged from the NSC those officials who support the U.S.-Israel alliance – an alliance that is vital to America’s ability to combat radical Islamist terrorism.
    Instead, General McMaster has appointed officials who are holdovers from the Obama administration, who favor the Iran nuclear deal and are hostile to Israel – officials who are diametrically opposed to President Trump’s policies. Moreover, new revelations demonstrate that General McMaster’s ideology is antagonistic to the President’s policies on these vital issues. The ZOA thus urges President Trump to remove General McMaster from his current position and reassign him to another position where he can do no further harm on these critical national security issues. General McMaster should not maintain a position where he can continue to undermine President Trump’s policies on Iran, Israel and the fight against “radical Islamic terrorism” – a term that General McMaster believes should not even be used”

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  107. @Joe Levantine
    "Casting ballots is for suckers."
    Awesome reality stated in such a little sentence. The inverters of reality, an evil cabal without any capacity for creativity, can only distort the true and great achievements of humanity in the service of their misanthropic ends, thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ' representative democracy' which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.

    …thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ‘ representative democracy’ which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.

    Even the much ballyhooed Athenian democracy only lasted a short time and I haven’t had time to check out my theory, but I suspect it only lasted as long as the silver mines at Laurion ( just outside Athens) were producing.

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.

    As far as “representative” democracy is concerned you are correct and the anti-federalists were onto the scam as well.

    As for Robing G’s challenge, I’d like to know what Robin’s plan is. I suspect it’s somewhat humorous.

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    Ooops.

    It should read.:

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were not participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.
    , @RobinG
    What makes you think I have a plan? I'm just looking for anything effective.

    Joe L. and the coterie that decry voting don't have a plan, is the point. Complain, but suggest nothing. NOT voting is for even bigger suckers. Disengage, so the system rolls on without them.

    Then QNA jumps in about "civil society organizations." Sound like Soros color revolution ops, don't they? As if the US gov't. gives a shit about "international pressure." US gov't. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.

    QNA's orgs are okay, so keep trying. But at least realize that the point of those orgs is to build pressure on the gov't. that exists. They're not calling for violent revolution.
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  108. anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Hide
    Trump's Results are all that count. Even in depth factual analysis is impotent next to results. ISIS is broken, Al Quida is now just a misspelled word, the economy is reversing its downward spiral (Except for the percentage of the rich that make their money as parasites.), and much more good is happening. "Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes it for it's evil deads."... that is, The Truth is exposing the Global Deception that has perpetuated tyranny, misery, and unhappiness for generations, indeed for far longer than that. The Biggest Game is being played out now, with the Good Guys having learned it's newer rules, which were altered by the Bad Guys. One of the rules is that the public , in general, can't handle the whole truth, so must be fed pieces of it until they wake up. Trump, Putin, and their very powerful Allies are playing this game exceedingly well.

    Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes it for it’s evil deads.

    Ooo, is one supposed to be impressed by such “profundity”?

    The Evil Empire is the Darkness, you degenerate.

    The Truth

    LOL! Are you talking about “The Truth”?

    Only hallucinating fools consider such nonsense as “100% God & 100% man,” as The Truth…

    Even Holmes will be stumped by the Mystery of the 200% Whole. ;)

    Good Guys

    Sigh!

    It will not end well for the “Good Guys.”

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    Only hallucinating fools consider such nonsense as “100% God & 100% man,” as The Truth…
     
    Or maybe your scoffing, faggoty-ass take on the hypostatic union simply isn't what the Church actually believes. You may be too sheep-humping stupid to understand "two natures in one Divine person," but Augustine, Aquinas, and Pascal were not.
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  109. Thanks, iffen! I knew you had it “in you” and I do not mean the Maven’s member.

    LOL!

    I miss the ‘Ol Mocker. It isn’t every day a guy can get childishly insulted by one with an IQ of 967…

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    Jacques Sheete amusingly laments: "I miss the ‘Ol Mocker. It isn’t every day a guy can get childishly insulted by one with an IQ of 967…"

    Hi Jacques,

    Admittedly, Maven Sam Shama's comments sent me to a dictionary several times, & I too "miss him," that is his talent for uptown, articulate Zio deception.

    Maven must be exhausted from throwing all the fatted swine to the U.R. pearls?

    Selah, paraphrase Former-Secretary of Offense, Donald Rumsfeld, "(Bolton) shit happens."
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  110. @Rurik

    Biden is even a bigger clown
     
    http://i.imgur.com/aVeeSUE.jpg

    I got a chuckle out of that one

    David Hogg graduated from Rodondo Shores High School in California and is not a student of MSD High School, and is a crisis actor involved in the false flag that the deep state pulled of at MSD.

    The whole deal at MSD is a gun control psy ops just like Sandy Hook where the school was closed in 2008, total B.S..

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  111. Art says:

    In politics, power is everything. No one in Washington is loyal to Trump – Republicans, Democrats, bureaucrats, and j-media are all in some way or other loyal to the deep state. Even worse, most of them are loyal to Israel first. Even his own daughter is loyal to Israel first. Trump has no friends in the DC halls of power.

    Clearly Bolton is not voter friendly. If Trump should bring America to the brink of another war – he will lose his power with the voters. His friend the stock market is fickle.

    He has so many things going against him, sooner or later something is going to stick. It is 50/50 he will be another broken Nixon figure with at the most four years in power. After Nixon, conservative American values took a huge blow. The same is going to happen with Trump – the J-MSM will see to it.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Trump’s “I will veto the spending bill” hokum was a pathetic waste of words that impressed no one.

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    In politics, power is everything. No one in Washington is loyal to Trump – Republicans, Democrats, bureaucrats, and j-media are all in some way or other loyal to the deep state. Even worse, most of them are loyal to Israel first. Even his own daughter is loyal to Israel first. Trump has no friends in the DC halls of power.
     
    But there is another kind of power. If the US public could re-familiarize themselves with the art of street demonstrations, this could prove lethal to the Deep State (DS). The DS can leverage its power through targeting individuals (Congressmen, academics, journalists etc. ) but it has far more difficulty dealing with diffuse opposition (as in an election).

    Public demonstrations are the ultimate diffuse threat, and would force the DS to act - and this is the point - DS violence would become explicit and visible, rather than the usual back door variety. The US public would likely wake up at this point (with the direct contact), while radicalization would expose Pelosi, Ryan and the other collaborators, putting them in a much more dangerous place.

    A motive for street action would be Anti-War. Trump was elected on Anti-War but is going for more ME conflict and more $ Trillions of debt.
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  112. renfro says:

    One more time.

    Trump is a “malignant narcissist” characterized by behavior that is impulsive, dramatic and erratic, conceited, boastful, require constant admiration and belittles people he perceives as inferior.
    These types do this because their bullying hides profound insecurity.

    So a insecure and malignant narcissist surrounds himself with psychopaths who are actually treasonous Fifth Columnist working to have the US war on Iran for Israel…..and what do you get?

    I believe I see some signs that military higher ups like McMaster are trying to weed out the Zionist….but remember that the military command opposed the attack on Iraq also…. but the Fifth Column Jews and their bought lackeys pushed it thru anyway.

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    I believe I see some signs that military higher ups like McMaster are trying to weed out the Zionist….but remember that the military command opposed the attack on Iraq also…. but the Fifth Column Jews and their bought lackeys pushed it thru anyway.
     
    Don't forget the roll 9/11 played in starting the Iraq War.

    An Iran War will require a false flag to get it started.

    You can be 100% sure that the Jews have a plan.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. EVERY US general publicly supports Israel.
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  113. @jacques sheete

    ...thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ‘ representative democracy’ which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.
     
    Even the much ballyhooed Athenian democracy only lasted a short time and I haven't had time to check out my theory, but I suspect it only lasted as long as the silver mines at Laurion ( just outside Athens) were producing.

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.

    As far as "representative" democracy is concerned you are correct and the anti-federalists were onto the scam as well.

    As for Robing G's challenge, I'd like to know what Robin's plan is. I suspect it's somewhat humorous.

    Ooops.

    It should read.:

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were not participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.

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    And amongst that 1/3 of Athenians, tyranny of the majority anyway.

    Forgot to include (and thanks to Seamus for posting Caitlin Johnstone first), captures my sentiments, "... now there’s no one left but us homeless nonpartisans..."

    "In addition to Democrats being forced to spend 2016 gaslighting themselves into believing that a warmongering neocon who supported the Iraq war would make a great First Female President, they have also been manipulated by the cult of blind anti-Trumpism into accepting neoconservative death worshippers like Bill Kristol, David Frum and Max Boot into their #Resistance fold.

    So the American mainstream has been successfully manipulated on both sides of the artificial political divide into supporting vestigial Bush neocons, with #TheResistance proudly retweeting depraved death cultists like Bill Kristol while a majority of the #MAGA crowd support Trump’s elevation of Bolton, and now there’s no one left but us homeless nonpartisans to point and scream about where this all seems to be headed.

    Partisan hack Trump supporters are worthless. Partisan hack Democrats are equally worthless. Only those who have awakened from the relentless barrage of mass media psyops and seen beyond the fake uniparty trap can see what’s going on."

    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dems-kept-cheerleading-bush-era-neocons-now-theres-one-in-the-white-house-84a8e32a1e25

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  114. anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man
    Real conservatives are...like Pat Buchanan, weary of The Lobby and against foreign interventions for the most part and America firsters. These NEOCON's, especially Gentile ones, are traitors.
    I still hold out some hope in Trump, that he's playing political games protecting his flanks, maybe have Bolton be the sacrificial lamb if he decides to keep the Iran deal, I don't know, but that hope is stretching thin.

    You lie about Buchanan. That racist degenerate is a White Supremacist, whose goal is World Hegemony… a very villainous and satanic undertaking indeed.

    They are traitors to humanity. No shortage of those in the Evil Empire.

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  115. @jacques sheete

    They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.
     
    I already used my "AGREE" button.

    Anybody else listen to the “March for our lives” children’s crusade today? Scary stuff. Scripted by Spielberg and the Dems, who also paid for most of it — with a little help from US taxpayers who support public schools, where these snowflakes were indoctrinated.

    The children’s crusade is another slice of the salami by which the (((oligarch))) intend to secure their hold on USA for yet another generation.

    The rally was dominated with cries of “Never Again;” reference was made to students who were in their “holocaust studies” class when the shooter was rampaging. Blacks were hauled onstage in large numbers to demonstrate their victimhood, emote, and lead chants, “Vote them out.”

    Lots of attacks on NRA, lots of kids saying “we need to feel safe, and you adults have failed us.” There was even a spot for several active and veteran US military from Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. who said, “Automatic weapons are for war, there is no reason an American civilian needs those weapons. They are not to be used on American soil.”

    iow for these snowflakes, if okey-dokey to kill innocent black and brown people in Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan and Iran; and a kid who is as messed up as Nikolas Cruz deserves “understanding for his situation” because his prostitute-mother was Jewish and he’s brownish; but “17 majority-Jewish kids in largely Jewish Boca Raton neighborhood getting killed tips the scales, and it’s all Trump’s fault.

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    Anybody else listen to the “March for our lives” children’s crusade today?
     
    "March For Our Lives – Join a Certified Kosher Movement.”
    “Help Us Create Gun Free Dead Zones!”

    source: (https://marchforourlives.com)
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQPIeJpWUAAbsNi.jpg

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  116. renfro says:
    @Rurik

    Biden is even a bigger clown
     
    http://i.imgur.com/aVeeSUE.jpg

    I got a chuckle out of that one

    Joe Biden: “I Am A Zionist. You Don’t Have To Be A Jew To Be A …
    ▶ 1:32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbUPVC4u5M
    Nov 13, 2017 – Uploaded by MediaVidShare2:57. CREEPY UNCLE JOE – Duration: 10:55.

    ‘Biden told US Jews that Israel – not America – guaranteed their …
    http://www.jpost.com/…/Biden-told-US-Jews-that-Israel-not-America-guaranteed-their-secur…;
    Mar 31, 2015 – Vice President Joe Biden told a gathering of prominent American Jewish officials last fall that they should look to Israel – and not the United States – as the ultimate guarantor of their community’s long-term safety. The surprising remarks, which were made during a Rosh Hashana celebration attended by …

    Get a vomit bag before reading further.

    POLITICO44 Blog

    Biden: ‘Jewish heritage is American heritage’
    By JENNIFER EPSTEIN
    05/21/2013 08:07 PM EDT

    [MORE]

    Vice President Joe Biden spoke at length Tuesday night about the influence of Judaism on the United States, dating back to the country’s founding and to the present day as Jews helped shape views on gay rights.
    “The truth is that Jewish heritage, Jewish culture, Jewish values are such an essential part of who we are that it’s fair to say that Jewish heritage is American heritage,” he said. “The Jewish people have contributed greatly to America. No group has had such an outsized influence per capita as all of you standing before you, and all of those who went before me and all of those who went before you.”
    “You make up 11 percent of the seats in the United States Congress. You make up one-third of all Nobel laureates,” he said. “So many notions that are embraced by this nation that particularly emanate from over 5,000 years of Jewish history, tradition and culture: independence, individualism, fairness, decency, justice, charity. These are all as you say, as I learned early on as a Catholic being educated by my friends, this tzedakah.”
    “The embrace of immigration” is part of that, as is the involvement of Jews in social justice movements.
    “You can’t talk about the civil rights movement in this country without talking about Jewish freedom riders and Jack Greenberg,” he said, telling a story about seeing a group of Jewish activists at a segregated movie theater in Delaware. “You can’t talk about the women’s movement without talking about Betty Friedan” or American advances in science and technology without mentioning Einstein and Carl Sagan, or music and Gershwin, Bob Dylan and “so, so, so many other people.”
    “I believe what affects the movements in America, what affects our attitudes in America are as much the culture and the arts as anything else,” he said. That’s why he spoke out on gay marriage “apparently a little ahead of time.”
    “It wasn’t anything we legislatively did. It was ‘Will and Grace,’ it was the social media. Literally. That’s what changed peoples’ attitudes. That’s why I was so certain that the vast majority of people would embrace and rapidly embrace” gay marriage, Biden said.
    “Think behind of all that, I bet you 85 percent of those changes, whether it’s in Hollywood or social media are a consequence of Jewish leaders in the industry. The influence is immense, the influence is immense. And, I might add, it is all to the good,” he said.
    “Jewish heritage has shaped who we are – all of us, us, me – as much or more than any other factor in the last 223 years. And that’s a fact,” he said.
    “We talk about it in terms of the incredible accomplishments and contributions” of Jews in America, Biden added, but it’s deeper “because the values, the values are so deep and so engrained in American culture, in our Constitution.”
    “So I think you, as usual, underestimate the impact of Jewish heritage. I really mean that. I think you vastly underestimate the impact you’ve had on the development of this nation. We owe you, we owe generations who came before you,” he said.”

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  117. @RobinG

    Awesome reality stated in “Casting ballots is for suckers.”
     
    So what's YOUR PLAN for righting the ship? Or is this your brand of virtue signaling?

    Got a look at the next generation of voters and their plan to REV up USA:

    -Register
    -Educate
    -Vote

    VOTE THEM OUT was one of the snowflake children’s primary battle cries, “them” being anyone who does not agree with banning automatic weapons and universal background checks; declaring gun violence a national health issue, which will mean schools can acquire federal funding for mental health counselors etc. in every school;

    then,
    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, followed by
    NEVER AGAIN.

    (That last one worked well for Palestinians and others in the Middle East, didn’t it?)

    The insistence on Background Checks has nothing to do with school safety and everything to do with government and other super-snoops having access to a complete dossier on every person in USA — his/her medical, financial, social, political, etc. choices and activities. I’m agin it.

    Likewise, I’m totally opposed to more mental health “screening and counseling,” not just in schools but everywhere. It smacks of Bolshevism.

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  118. @Anatoly Karlin
    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don't follow American politics closely these days, but that's bad - real bad.

    Biden? Don’t make me laugh.
     
    Biden would beat Trump easy. So long as the Dems don't run some far left harpy (e.g. Kamala Harris) - which, in fairness, they might well do - Trump is done for.

    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don’t follow American politics closely these days, but that’s bad – real bad.

    If it’s any consolation, it was a very close vote. The heart of (disgraced/resigned) Chris Murphy’s old district (18) is NOT blue collar, it’s white-collar conservatives w/ lots of Jews influencing local school districts in the area — AISH and CHABAD both have large facilities just a few miles from Murphy’s old local office.

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  119. iffen says:
    @Randal
    Nobody like you who believes in suppressing free political speech, as you do, is "on my side". At most, we might share objectives in some particular disputes.

    Nobody like you who believes in suppressing free political speech, as you do, is “on my side”.

    Well, I can see the totalitarian SJWs making hay while the sun shines with your idealized “free speech.” You can ignore the consequences of tolerating the intolerant if you want.

    Soldier on, Randal, soldier on.

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    You can ignore the consequences of tolerating the intolerant if you want.
     
    The pretext of "not tolerating the intolerant" has always been just that - a pretext for the dishonest and the hypocrite.
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  120. iffen says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    iffen reflected (?) and wrote: "It’s time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K."

    Hi iffen,

    Oh man, how lucky for me to have read your unique idea, above!

    Guess what, iffy?

    In today's mail, I received a confirmation from State Department, and beginning April 2nd, I become ZUS Ambassador to Borneo. My embassy residence will be in the capital city, Pongo-Pongo. Central air conditioning and a hot tub!

    Based upon your fine recommendation, asap, I will meet with the Bornean Queen, Stormy Dan-tsunami, and threaten to break off diplomatic relations unless she purchases a (used) F35 and I could grope her whenever the mood strikes.

    Thanks, iffen! I knew you had it "in you" and I do not mean the Maven's member.

    Hey Woodchucker, long time, no habla. Can’t say that I’ve missed it.

    I hope that you are giving Melissa’s twat the face-time that it deserves. Adopt those bastards and make real Muricans out of them.

    Sam seems to be MIA. He must be on some secret Mossad op.

    Our new NSA Director wants you to consider re-upping.

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    Iffen being "all he can be" to me: "Our new NSA Director wants you to consider re-upping."

    Hi iffen,

    Must "rope a dope" and say nope.

    By chance, remember what "The Greatest" once defiantly said about going to 'Nam?

    Because I like you, & despite your willful stupidity, I will reply to the "re-upping" opportunity by a (paraphrased) channeling of the late-Ali's plain-spoken words:

    "Ain't no sand nigger ever called me a 'bacterial strain."

    Thanks, iffy.
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  121. @jacques sheete

    Thanks, iffen! I knew you had it “in you” and I do not mean the Maven’s member.
     
    LOL!

    I miss the 'Ol Mocker. It isn't every day a guy can get childishly insulted by one with an IQ of 967...

    Jacques Sheete amusingly laments: “I miss the ‘Ol Mocker. It isn’t every day a guy can get childishly insulted by one with an IQ of 967…”

    Hi Jacques,

    Admittedly, Maven Sam Shama’s comments sent me to a dictionary several times, & I too “miss him,” that is his talent for uptown, articulate Zio deception.

    Maven must be exhausted from throwing all the fatted swine to the U.R. pearls?

    Selah, paraphrase Former-Secretary of Offense, Donald Rumsfeld, “(Bolton) shit happens.”

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  122. anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer’s remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?
     
    no

    what it says is that the people who voted for Trump are moral, and that we rejected contrived zio-wars that slaughter innocent people.

    Just like Americans rejected the war when they voted for Wilson, and he promised to keep us out of the war. But the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    Americans rejected the war when they voted for FDR, when he promised to keep us out of the zio-WWII- but the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    and we rejected the satanic zio-wars in the Middle East, when we elected Trump, and he promised to end the evil being done in our name, but the zio-scum are dragging us in, though treachery, as usual

    but, even with all of that, it's still ragingly obvious that even as Trump is betraying all of us Deplorables, and betraying the decent people of the planet, who held so much hope in him, as he's succumbing to the zio-treachery of The Fiend

    still, STILL - he is gazillion to the ~nth power, better in every way over the war hag.

    for one, if the American electorate would have voted for the war sow, then that would mean that we are truly irredeemable, and unapologetic for the unprecedented evils the zio-American government has been perpetrating all over the globe.

    but by rejecting the cackling war sow, that means that Americans aspired to be decent people, and were hoping that maybe even the war hag, and her counterpart Obama, might even be sent to the Hague to be charged for war crimes, and then put in a cage, where they belong. Or hanged by the neck, if found guilty.

    so by electing Trump, even as he has turned out to betray us all too, at least we tried to end the Fiend's Eternal Wars. And give the planet some shred of hope, for a future without the zio-scum destroying all of our lives, even as they murder their way across the planet.

    So go ahead and do your victory dance Corvy, and high-five your homies. It looks like Trump is just another zio-tool, and your agenda will reign ascendant after all.

    So, all of anglo-evil is purely because of zio-scum? Hmm… nope.

    Such deflection is always so transparent and tiring.

    The anglo-deplorable-losers “rejected” the zio-wars because their wretched lives were getting even more miserable.

    Perhaps the likes of Rurik may still cling on to a modicum of morality, given some of your posts, but most of your white supremacist brethren, wouldn’t give a flying fcuk to the spilling of brown “muzzie” blood. In fact, the more the better, right?

    If they actually cared about humanity, one of your saintly kind would have drilled a neat hole on top the fugly witch who spewed, “it was worth it,” that is, given your kind’s propensity to drill such holes for the most minor of faults (e.g. Adam Purinton).
    I take her name especially because of the little lives who paid for such inhumanity.

    The anglo-scum and the zio-scum form the basis of, Synergy of Evil.

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    So, all of anglo-evil is purely because of zio-scum? Hmm… nope.
     
    no, the Anglo-evil was just that, British aristocracy perfidy

    the US was dragged into those wars by Zionist (and Anglo) treachery

    I'm American, not British/Anglo, and Americans voted against both of those wars. They were tricked into them by lies about the Lusitania and presidential treachery vis-à-vis Japan, respectively.

    The anglo-deplorable-losers “rejected” the zio-wars because their wretched lives were getting even more miserable.
     
    you sound rather full of hate.

    the Deplorables voted for Trump because they/we were and are appalled at the slaughter, cost in blood and treasure and because they're evil and wrong. What does our wretchedness have to do with it?

    your white supremacist brethren, wouldn’t give a flying fcuk to the spilling of brown “muzzie” blood. In fact, the more the better, right?
     
    full of hate, eh?

    and I don't know what "white supremacist" is supposed to mean, unless it means white people who demand self-determination, which means not being ruled by non-whites, who despise us and want to see us driven under and blended out of existence. If that's what you mean by "white supremacist' then hell yes, count me in. But if it means white people who want to rule non-whites, then you're barking up the wrong tree, because I personally believe ALL people are entitled to self-determination, and should all be allowed to rule themselves.

    I take her name especially because of the little lives who paid for such inhumanity.

     

    an evil ghoul for sure

    just like all the war criminals, I'd like to see them dance at the end of a rope.

    The anglo-scum and the zio-scum form the basis of, Synergy of Evil.
     
    if you mean the pedophiles of Perfidious Albion and the Jewish supremacist Lukidniks, then I agree.

    If you mean white Americans, then I don't. (to say the least. I even moderated my initial wording to 'then I don't' to comport to the decorum of this forum)
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  123. Maven must be exhausted from throwing all the fatted swine to the U.R. pearls?

    That, and it must’ve been tiring ducking all the swine tossed back at him. Funny little cockalorum, he was.

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  124. Randal says:
    @iffen
    Nobody like you who believes in suppressing free political speech, as you do, is “on my side”.

    Well, I can see the totalitarian SJWs making hay while the sun shines with your idealized “free speech.” You can ignore the consequences of tolerating the intolerant if you want.

    Soldier on, Randal, soldier on.

    You can ignore the consequences of tolerating the intolerant if you want.

    The pretext of “not tolerating the intolerant” has always been just that – a pretext for the dishonest and the hypocrite.

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  125. @iffen
    Hey Woodchucker, long time, no habla. Can't say that I've missed it.

    I hope that you are giving Melissa's twat the face-time that it deserves. Adopt those bastards and make real Muricans out of them.

    Sam seems to be MIA. He must be on some secret Mossad op.

    Our new NSA Director wants you to consider re-upping.

    Iffen being “all he can be” to me: “Our new NSA Director wants you to consider re-upping.”

    Hi iffen,

    Must “rope a dope” and say nope.

    By chance, remember what “The Greatest” once defiantly said about going to ‘Nam?

    Because I like you, & despite your willful stupidity, I will reply to the “re-upping” opportunity by a (paraphrased) channeling of the late-Ali’s plain-spoken words:

    “Ain’t no sand nigger ever called me a ‘bacterial strain.”

    Thanks, iffy.

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  126. Art says:
    @renfro
    One more time.

    Trump is a “malignant narcissist” characterized by behavior that is impulsive, dramatic and erratic, conceited, boastful, require constant admiration and belittles people he perceives as inferior.
    These types do this because their bullying hides profound insecurity.

    So a insecure and malignant narcissist surrounds himself with psychopaths who are actually treasonous Fifth Columnist working to have the US war on Iran for Israel.....and what do you get?

    I believe I see some signs that military higher ups like McMaster are trying to weed out the Zionist....but remember that the military command opposed the attack on Iraq also.... but the Fifth Column Jews and their bought lackeys pushed it thru anyway.

    I believe I see some signs that military higher ups like McMaster are trying to weed out the Zionist….but remember that the military command opposed the attack on Iraq also…. but the Fifth Column Jews and their bought lackeys pushed it thru anyway.

    Don’t forget the roll 9/11 played in starting the Iraq War.

    An Iran War will require a false flag to get it started.

    You can be 100% sure that the Jews have a plan.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. EVERY US general publicly supports Israel.

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  127. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    But, it would require occupying the shores there. A tricky endevour and costly for sure.
    In any case, a proper, full blown conventional war there.
    I believe it’s feasible and quite possible.
     
    Of course it's feasible, just like overthrowing the government of Iraq and occupying that country was feasible, and keeping the collaboration government in power in most of South Vietnam was feasible - we are talking about a superpower versus a medium sized regional power. The issue is whether it is feasible at any remotely acceptable cost, and for how long the US can bear the ongoing costs politically and economically, and what the diplomatic price of yet another such blatantly illegal military aggression will be.

    Occupying the Persian Gulf shores is obviously do-able, but as you say it is a full blown war operation, which will require the destruction of Iranian air defences, and of major mobile Iranian military forces, and of Iranian missile capabilities and the ongoing protection of the occupying forces from active military harassment. This will have to be done illegally and most likely in the face of active, if not official, Russian support to the Iranian military, and Chinese economic support. Even if US pressure can halt trains through Azerbaijan and the 'Stans, cargo ships full of Russian weapons and "volunteers", financed by China, who will if they have any sense also take the opportunity to get some experience for their own "volunteers" as well, will be landing regularly at Iran's Caspian Sea ports, under Russian air cover. In the initial phase there will likely have been significant damage around the region from Iranian missiles to military and oil infrastructure, and harassment of such targets will continue. The Iranian military is not the Iraqi military of 2003, demoralised and under-equipped by years of sanctions and isolation, and nor is it inexperienced in modern warfare, after Iraq and Syria. Meanwhile, US forces and assets in Iraq will be targeted by local Iranian sympathisers, and likewise in Afghanistan, where attacks on US forces will suddenly have access to heavier weapons , air defences and artillery than they ever have so far.

    Fortunately, the US is solidly politically united and well capable of bearing heavy ongoing losses in a war on the other side of the planet that is not remotely in its national interest, and has sound economic fundamentals that will allow it to easily sustain the ongoing massive equipment replacement and logistical costs in the global economic collapse environment created after a massive spike in the price of oil.[/sarcasm]

    But of course, none of that might happen. There's always the possibility, ever-beloved of warmongers, that US troops finally will actually have a war whose costs do not massively exceed what its advocates claim.

    Of course it’s feasible, just like overthrowing the government of Iraq and occupying that country was feasible, and keeping the collaboration government in power in most of South Vietnam was feasible – we are talking about a superpower versus a medium sized regional power. The issue is whether it is feasible at any remotely acceptable cost, and for how long the US can bear the ongoing costs politically and economically, and what the diplomatic price of yet another such blatantly illegal military aggression will be.

    Occupying the Persian Gulf shores is obviously do-able, but as you say it is a full blown war operation, which will require the destruction of Iranian air defences, and of major mobile Iranian military forces, and of Iranian missile capabilities and the ongoing protection of the occupying forces from active military harassment.

    Yes.

    And, yes for the rest of it except

    ….capable of bearing heavy ongoing losses in a war…

    I don’t see “heavy”. Moderate to light.

    As for:

    There’s always the possibility, ever-beloved of warmongers, that US troops finally will actually have a war whose costs do not massively exceed what its advocates claim.

    Irrelevant for at least first 3 months of that war.

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    I don’t see “heavy”. Moderate to light.
     
    Heavy relative to what the US is used to, for sure. In fact most likely "very heavy" compared to what the US has been used to since Vietnam.

    Irrelevant for at least first 3 months of that war.
     
    Unlikely, I think. I suspect the early stages of such a war would see the first occasions for decades when substantial US assets get taken down with heavy casualties - bases, ships etc, and certainly aircraft. Probably not lots of such assets, but most likely some.

    But certainly we are both speculating here. In the spirit of "the worse the better": bring it on! I think it will likely be, not the end, and yet not the end of the beginning, but probably the beginning of the end of US global hegemony, and wars like this proposed one are the reason why that is necessary.
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  128. turtle says:

    Trump is owned.
    I’ll bet now that “bad News Bolton” has been installed as Chief Ear Whisperer, the recent bimbo eruptions will somehow disappear.
    Anyone who voted for DJT believing he would somehow be “different” from the myriad other denizens of the D.C swamp has now been given a stiff dose of reality.

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  129. @niteranger
    The Neocon Jews and their Suckmongers like Bolton have won again. It took just over a year for them to take over. Jared Kushner appears to be a Jewish plant reading the daily intelligence briefings that Trump didn't want to read and furnishing the info to his Israeli friends as well as the Saudi Royals who are nothing more than Jewish whores.

    Israel has never defined their borders and they never will. They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

    Actually, Israel has indeed defined its borders: The Euphrates in the East, and the Nile in the West.

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    Actually, Israel has indeed defined its borders: The Euphrates in the East, and the Nile in the West.

    Did Bolton sign the Project for a New American Century - the blue print for greater Israel - all his clown neocon Israel First buddies did.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  130. @jilles dykstra
    Can it be that Trump does not want to end as Kennedy ?

    That thought has crossed my mind, too.

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    That would, of course, make him a coward as well as a buffoon and a liar.
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  131. wayfarer says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Anybody else listen to the "March for our lives" children's crusade today? Scary stuff. Scripted by Spielberg and the Dems, who also paid for most of it -- with a little help from US taxpayers who support public schools, where these snowflakes were indoctrinated.

    The children's crusade is another slice of the salami by which the (((oligarch))) intend to secure their hold on USA for yet another generation.

    The rally was dominated with cries of "Never Again;" reference was made to students who were in their "holocaust studies" class when the shooter was rampaging. Blacks were hauled onstage in large numbers to demonstrate their victimhood, emote, and lead chants, "Vote them out."

    Lots of attacks on NRA, lots of kids saying "we need to feel safe, and you adults have failed us." There was even a spot for several active and veteran US military from Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. who said, "Automatic weapons are for war, there is no reason an American civilian needs those weapons. They are not to be used on American soil."

    iow for these snowflakes, if okey-dokey to kill innocent black and brown people in Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan and Iran; and a kid who is as messed up as Nikolas Cruz deserves "understanding for his situation" because his prostitute-mother was Jewish and he's brownish; but "17 majority-Jewish kids in largely Jewish Boca Raton neighborhood getting killed tips the scales, and it's all Trump's fault.

    Anybody else listen to the “March for our lives” children’s crusade today?

    “March For Our Lives – Join a Certified Kosher Movement.”
    “Help Us Create Gun Free Dead Zones!”

    source: (https://marchforourlives.com)

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    …..

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    Wayfarer,

    There should be before and after NYC 9/11 pictures.

    Only then we can begin to appreciate the amount of destruction unleashed by that devilish act.

    Hmm – 9/11 – who benefited?

    What nation has exhibited hate for the peoples of those cities.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Add it up - millions and millions of hurt lives!
    , @SolontoCroesus
    In Stefan Molyneux's conversation w/ Prof. Duchesne, the latter explained how "universal human rights" evolved to rationalize the notion that national rights are meaningless, but an immigrant to a land. legal, illegal, whatever, possessed "universal human rights," therefore should be accepted as a citizen of the nation to which he/she migrated.

    http://www.unz.com/video/stefanmolyneux_the-fall-of-canada-prepare-yourself-accordingly/

    With that in mind, consider the meme repeated by the March for Our Lives non-marchers (it was not a march, more like a rally -- or even a Hollywood stage play): "Automatic weapons [let's call them WMD] are weapons of war, used by military in war; ordinary citizens had no need for such weapons and should not be permitted to purchase them or use them."

    This meme was reinforced in a cameo by several members of military who had seen action in Iraq, etc., who said they used those WMD in war (to defend American freedoms and values); they were not to be used by citizens.

    The Children's Crusaders want to feel secure in their schools; "It is not okay that I am afraid to go to school. I have a right to feel safe and the government has an obligation to make me feel safe." That is, feeling safe in school is a "human right." A "universal human right." Just like someone who sneaks across a border to enter USA has a "universal human right" to live in USA and be protected by USA taxpayers.

    One step further: If "human rights" are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere -- Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass -- have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.

    Yet the Children's Crusaders actively advocated for members of US military to use WMD "over there," but not over Here.

    --
    In my daily descent into the purgatory of C Span Washington Journal, a white female who identified as a "baby boomer" who was politically activated by participating in Vietnam war demonstrations (on the side of Communists), said the "March for our lives" was just that same kind of event.

    I beg to differ. Most of the protests re Vietnam were in opposition to war.
    The March for Our Lives was the opposite: not only did those children express no concern with use of US taxpayer funded WMD when used to kill black, brown as well as whitefish people "over there," they endorsed those uses; their only concern was that They be protected from them in their (((Boca Raton))) enclaves Over Here.

    These kids even registered outrage over the Florida proposal that all backpacks be transparent! ME? You want to inconvenience ME??

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  132. Randal says:
    @peterAUS

    Of course it’s feasible, just like overthrowing the government of Iraq and occupying that country was feasible, and keeping the collaboration government in power in most of South Vietnam was feasible – we are talking about a superpower versus a medium sized regional power. The issue is whether it is feasible at any remotely acceptable cost, and for how long the US can bear the ongoing costs politically and economically, and what the diplomatic price of yet another such blatantly illegal military aggression will be.

    Occupying the Persian Gulf shores is obviously do-able, but as you say it is a full blown war operation, which will require the destruction of Iranian air defences, and of major mobile Iranian military forces, and of Iranian missile capabilities and the ongoing protection of the occupying forces from active military harassment.
     
    Yes.

    And, yes for the rest of it except

    ....capable of bearing heavy ongoing losses in a war...
     
    I don't see "heavy". Moderate to light.

    As for:

    There’s always the possibility, ever-beloved of warmongers, that US troops finally will actually have a war whose costs do not massively exceed what its advocates claim.
     
    Irrelevant for at least first 3 months of that war.

    I don’t see “heavy”. Moderate to light.

    Heavy relative to what the US is used to, for sure. In fact most likely “very heavy” compared to what the US has been used to since Vietnam.

    Irrelevant for at least first 3 months of that war.

    Unlikely, I think. I suspect the early stages of such a war would see the first occasions for decades when substantial US assets get taken down with heavy casualties – bases, ships etc, and certainly aircraft. Probably not lots of such assets, but most likely some.

    But certainly we are both speculating here. In the spirit of “the worse the better”: bring it on! I think it will likely be, not the end, and yet not the end of the beginning, but probably the beginning of the end of US global hegemony, and wars like this proposed one are the reason why that is necessary.

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    Heavy relative to what the US is used to, for sure. In fact most likely “very heavy” compared to what the US has been used to since Vietnam.
     
    Yes and no.

    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that's only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?

    My point is very simple: nobody cares for casualties for the current all volunteer US military outside of people directly involved there. And, if I am not mistaken, that's mostly people in "flyover states". You haven't seen them protesting anything so far. Will they start when casualties start mounting, yes, a little and nobody will care.

    As for all that "bases, aircraft carriers" etc. I think you are for a nasty surprise there. There won't be any. Planes, yes, ships up to destroyer, yes, troops up to a platoon, per day, maybe a company at the very start, perhaps.
    Nothing that Administration can't manage and even use for its own advantage.

    I do believe you feel the same, actually.

    That........futility.......of all this can be disheartening.
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  133. Randal says:
    @Seamus Padraig
    That thought has crossed my mind, too.

    That would, of course, make him a coward as well as a buffoon and a liar.

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  134. Art says:
    @wayfarer

    Anybody else listen to the “March for our lives” children’s crusade today?
     
    "March For Our Lives – Join a Certified Kosher Movement.”
    “Help Us Create Gun Free Dead Zones!”

    source: (https://marchforourlives.com)
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQPIeJpWUAAbsNi.jpg

    .....
    .....

    Wayfarer,

    There should be before and after NYC 9/11 pictures.

    Only then we can begin to appreciate the amount of destruction unleashed by that devilish act.

    Hmm – 9/11 – who benefited?

    What nation has exhibited hate for the peoples of those cities.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Add it up – millions and millions of hurt lives!

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    September 11, 2001 - United Airlines Flight 93
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

    https://climatism.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/911-crash.gif
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  135. Z-man says:
    @niteranger
    The Neocon Jews and their Suckmongers like Bolton have won again. It took just over a year for them to take over. Jared Kushner appears to be a Jewish plant reading the daily intelligence briefings that Trump didn't want to read and furnishing the info to his Israeli friends as well as the Saudi Royals who are nothing more than Jewish whores.

    Israel has never defined their borders and they never will. They are sick group of people who believe they should control the world. Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

    Iran and Syria are just two more nations the stupid Americans will die in for these Neocon World Terrorists.

    Yes sad.
    Take a look at this. https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2018/03/08/us-israel-prepare-to-train-for-joint-missile-defense-ops/
    At the end of a follow up article in the same publication the stupid colored American General says that when hostilities take place we will be taking our orders from the Israelis. Sickening!

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  136. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    I don’t see “heavy”. Moderate to light.
     
    Heavy relative to what the US is used to, for sure. In fact most likely "very heavy" compared to what the US has been used to since Vietnam.

    Irrelevant for at least first 3 months of that war.
     
    Unlikely, I think. I suspect the early stages of such a war would see the first occasions for decades when substantial US assets get taken down with heavy casualties - bases, ships etc, and certainly aircraft. Probably not lots of such assets, but most likely some.

    But certainly we are both speculating here. In the spirit of "the worse the better": bring it on! I think it will likely be, not the end, and yet not the end of the beginning, but probably the beginning of the end of US global hegemony, and wars like this proposed one are the reason why that is necessary.

    Heavy relative to what the US is used to, for sure. In fact most likely “very heavy” compared to what the US has been used to since Vietnam.

    Yes and no.

    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that’s only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?

    My point is very simple: nobody cares for casualties for the current all volunteer US military outside of people directly involved there. And, if I am not mistaken, that’s mostly people in “flyover states”. You haven’t seen them protesting anything so far. Will they start when casualties start mounting, yes, a little and nobody will care.

    As for all that “bases, aircraft carriers” etc. I think you are for a nasty surprise there. There won’t be any. Planes, yes, ships up to destroyer, yes, troops up to a platoon, per day, maybe a company at the very start, perhaps.
    Nothing that Administration can’t manage and even use for its own advantage.

    I do believe you feel the same, actually.

    That……..futility…….of all this can be disheartening.

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    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that’s only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?
     
    Looks like we are probably in broad agreement on casualty levels, just not on the political impact. Certainly we are not in the world of a conscript army suffering mass infantry casualties, as in Vietnam or in Korea, but that doesn't mean the propagandised American people will be completely unaware of and unaffected by daily losses of equipment and personnel.

    It will be more than sufficient to bring home the fact that they are in a war, and to fire up the existing political divisions, which is what matters. Then it's just a matter of time until it becomes clear nothing of any significance is being achieved - that comes a lot quicker these days than it used to, thanks to the internet.

    As for all that “bases, aircraft carriers” etc.
     
    I didn't write "aircraft carriers", I wrote "ships", and it appears you are in agreement with me because you yourself wrote "ships up to destroyer".

    In reality it appears we are not far apart on loss estimates, just on our assessment of the likely impact of those losses.

    Where we do part is in your assumption of the rosiest possible scenario with regard to protection of major assets - bases and capital ships. You, as advocates of war always do, assume that everything will work and therefore there will be no unpleasant surprises. That's understandable - you have to adopt that inherently dishonest position in order to push your war because if you were honest about the risks then people might start to ask if it is really worth it. In reality, the chances are that there are going to be mistakes and unexpected capabilities that will result in the other side "getting through". This idea of attacking Iran is something new for the US in modern times - an attack on a substantial enemy on its home turf. It's a lot bigger than just destroying an Iraqi expeditionary force, or invading an Iraq demoralised and reduced by years of isolation and sanctions.

    I don't say the Iranians will necessarily get a capital ship - in part it depends on how careful the Yanks are, and whether the Iranians get lucky, but I do think some bases are probably going to get heavily hit - bases don't move and the only thing protecting them is missile defences and counters working perfectly.

    Regardless, I think your cosy assessment about the US easily weathering - politically - the loss, say, of a couple of destroyers and a few other small ships in the initial fighting, along with ongoing aircraft losses, and probably with nothing to show for it, is most likely wrong. A couple of Arleigh Burkes, or one plus half a dozen mine countermeasures and other small ships, means up to 5-600 men lost. That, alone, is three times the number of US military men killed in the invasion of Iraq, and three times the number killed by enemy action in the 1990/91 war. And the more careful the US is about military losses, the less progress they will have to show for it after a few weeks of fighting.

    But as I said, it's nothing new that advocates of war seek to downplay the likely costs of their desired war - they always do that, and rely on the "rally behind the troops" effect to prevent their lies from catching up with them. Often, it works. In this particular case, though, I think the uncertainties are high, the visible gains likely all but non-existent (will even the jingoist US sphere legacy media be able to make enough people care that "progress has been made" in degrading Iranian forces, a couple of weeks or a month into the fighting, with no end in sight to the war, and no plausible way to end the war even suggested other than vague fantasies of "they'll have to give in eventually") and the collateral economic costs high.
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  137. Rurik says:
    @anonymous
    So, all of anglo-evil is purely because of zio-scum? Hmm... nope.

    Such deflection is always so transparent and tiring.

    The anglo-deplorable-losers "rejected" the zio-wars because their wretched lives were getting even more miserable.

    Perhaps the likes of Rurik may still cling on to a modicum of morality, given some of your posts, but most of your white supremacist brethren, wouldn't give a flying fcuk to the spilling of brown "muzzie" blood. In fact, the more the better, right?

    If they actually cared about humanity, one of your saintly kind would have drilled a neat hole on top the fugly witch who spewed, "it was worth it," that is, given your kind's propensity to drill such holes for the most minor of faults (e.g. Adam Purinton).
    I take her name especially because of the little lives who paid for such inhumanity.

    The anglo-scum and the zio-scum form the basis of, Synergy of Evil.

    So, all of anglo-evil is purely because of zio-scum? Hmm… nope.

    no, the Anglo-evil was just that, British aristocracy perfidy

    the US was dragged into those wars by Zionist (and Anglo) treachery

    I’m American, not British/Anglo, and Americans voted against both of those wars. They were tricked into them by lies about the Lusitania and presidential treachery vis-à-vis Japan, respectively.

    The anglo-deplorable-losers “rejected” the zio-wars because their wretched lives were getting even more miserable.

    you sound rather full of hate.

    the Deplorables voted for Trump because they/we were and are appalled at the slaughter, cost in blood and treasure and because they’re evil and wrong. What does our wretchedness have to do with it?

    your white supremacist brethren, wouldn’t give a flying fcuk to the spilling of brown “muzzie” blood. In fact, the more the better, right?

    full of hate, eh?

    and I don’t know what “white supremacist” is supposed to mean, unless it means white people who demand self-determination, which means not being ruled by non-whites, who despise us and want to see us driven under and blended out of existence. If that’s what you mean by “white supremacist’ then hell yes, count me in. But if it means white people who want to rule non-whites, then you’re barking up the wrong tree, because I personally believe ALL people are entitled to self-determination, and should all be allowed to rule themselves.

    I take her name especially because of the little lives who paid for such inhumanity.

    an evil ghoul for sure

    just like all the war criminals, I’d like to see them dance at the end of a rope.

    The anglo-scum and the zio-scum form the basis of, Synergy of Evil.

    if you mean the pedophiles of Perfidious Albion and the Jewish supremacist Lukidniks, then I agree.

    If you mean white Americans, then I don’t. (to say the least. I even moderated my initial wording to ‘then I don’t’ to comport to the decorum of this forum)

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  138. geokat62 says:

    p.s. Add it up – millions and millions of hurt lives!

    Critical missing words included:

    p.s. Add it up – millions and millions of dumb goyim hurt lives!

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  139. Art says:
    @Seamus Padraig
    Actually, Israel has indeed defined its borders: The Euphrates in the East, and the Nile in the West.

    http://truerichesacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/images/greater-israel-pitn-upclose.jpg

    Actually, Israel has indeed defined its borders: The Euphrates in the East, and the Nile in the West.

    Did Bolton sign the Project for a New American Century – the blue print for greater Israel – all his clown neocon Israel First buddies did.

    Think Peace — Art

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  140. @Sean
    Nothing is going to happen with North Korea because the US is not going to attack North Korea, China would simply threaten war, and a land war with China is not one the US could win. The US was defeated in the Korean war by China after the US deep state (CIA) ignored Chinese warnings and tried to overthrow the Northern regieme, and the threat of Chinese intervention in Vietnam was what kept the US from invading the North or (a la the British in Malaya) liquidating the ethnic Chinese in South Vietnam--backbone of the Viet Cong.

    McMaster was sacked for refusing to acquiesce in an attack on Iran, Bolton's appointment means there is going to be such an attack. After Iran is taken out of the equation, Israel will expel the West Bank Arabs and organised American Jewry will be politically co-opted by Trump or at least neutralized as far as their proimmigration agitprop is concerned

    The US was not defeated in Korea by China but held back by the very real threat of Soviet invasion. China was the left arm of the Soviets at the time n Stalin had his stronger right arm Red Army ready to intervene if China got in trouble, which would have rapidly forced a total US defeat n evacuation. China could never have resisted the US without massive Soviet military support n advisors, n only massive clandestine Soviet support allowed the Chinese military to survive its war in Korea.

    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.

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    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.
     
    Interesting that you assume that China would face off against the US, and I have to agree with that.

    In a US/Russia confrontation (which is very possible), the worst outcome from the Chinese POV would be a Russian defeat, since Russia is the only country that can challenge the US militarily. China alone has no chance and would be reduced to servitude.

    So, if the face off starts in Syria/Iran the Chinese more or less have to immediately side with Russia for geo-political reasons - not just to protect their investments - and at that point, the US might hesitate if it faced a dual war with Russia and China,
    , @Sean
    Sort of, yes. However the US were trying for invasion/ regieme change in North Korea and the CIA failed to predict China's response (Ray Cline's career did not suffer). It was a complete failure by the US to understand the total commitment that China had to North Korea.

    Now of course there are people trying to say that the Chinese were just stupidly overreacting, and would not make the same mistake twice with North Korea.


    https://academicarchive.snhu.edu/bitstream/handle/10474/3185/his2017compton.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
    Thus, Mao’s assessment that the U.S. intended to invade his nation, which informed his subsequent decision to send PLA troops into Korea, appears to represent a deeply flawed Chinese use of intelligence in making such a consequential wartime decision.
     
    Don't you believe it, the Chinese reaction was predictable, and they would intervene to support North Korea. The diplomatic skills of North Korea and China are underestimated. Nothing is going to happen in North Korea whatever bluffs the US tries. The US knows China is not going to stand for any military action against North Korea. It could do all sorts of things to help Kim if he was attacked, and would. If the US escalated China would too.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/24/world/as-china-threatens-taiwan-it-makes-sure-us-listens.html

    In 2000 it happened again, the US tried to use diplomatically veiled nuclear threats to warn off China from intervening against Taiwan. China responded semi officially by saying very explicitly that it could hit the US mainland with nuclear missiles.

    Iran is different. Overthrowing the Iranian government will be attempted by CIA operations at first, but the chance for that has probably gone. The US are going to use military force, and then get out quick. Iran will fragment into statelets.

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  141. @jilles dykstra
    What Iran has deep underground, in their rocks, atomic and hydrogen bombs proof, nobody knows.
    I hear no more talk about the 90 atomic bombs that are said to have disappeared out of the Ukraine to Iran, that were said to have been unlocked by Iran in 2005.
    If the story is true, attacking Iran will be the end of Israel, not of Iran.
    I sometimes wonder if Iran would like a nuclear attack, to justify wiping Israel off the map.

    Regardless of that kind of rumor, Iran has a strong military that would be very hard to defeat on its own ground. If Iran was beatable in a conventional ground war, the US military would likely have been sent in long ago. There have been more credible (but still false) pretexts for attacking Iran before and it hasn’t been ordered.

    The IDF wouldn’t last long against the Iranian Army. In fact, the IDF isn’t up to much anyway. That’s probably why the Israelis have been hoping to get the US to fight Iran for them.

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    After Vietnam, a USA ground war against a determined enemy became impossible.
    Iraq was possible because of the nature of the country.
    Iran is a mountain country, as in the war against Japan, USA losses would be unbearable politically.
    The USA puppet shah is not forgotten.

    No unconditional surrender of Japan, USA loss of life of a million, impossible.
    Robert J.C. Butow, 'JAPAN'S Decision to Surrender', Stanford, 1954

    Bombing does not do the trick, as we see in Syria.
    Arming and training rebels, as a USA general admitted before the Senate 'one does not always know if one arms the right group'.
    A great disadvantage may be that very few USA military speak local languages, what interpreters tell, who knows ?

    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?
    IS and hatred, I think.
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  142. @Sean
    The explanation from Russia is that the nerve gas came from the British defence lab Porton Down which is not very far from where the poisoning took place. Unlike certain countries where people get drunk and cause nuclear power station catastrophes or almost start WW3 over Norwegian weather research (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident) we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us against them and was swapped for Anna Chapman, not unless we never want anyone to work for us again, eh? Proof beyond reasonable doubt does not mean there is no chance of a mistake anyway, but it is much more likely than anything else that the Russian state did it on Putin's orders. Skripal was branded a 'traitor' and a 'bastard' on state TV in Russia, so them playing the innocent again won't work. Not again .

    ” so them playing the innocent again won’t work. Not again .”

    Apparently it won’t work on you. Not again, anyway.

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  143. @renfro
    I wonder if anyone here is going to start defending Trump with the absurd...'he's playing 3 dimensional chess'...or the excuse that he's 'keeping his friends close but his enemies closer'.

    Thy need to realize that Trump is the swamp and he is scrapping the bottom of the swamp and bringing the psychopathic swamp slime of Bolton and Gina Haspel into his adm.

    I hope Mueller nails his ass and little Kushner's on something---they should be gotten out of the WH.
    Pence can't be any worse than Trump.

    As bad as Trump is, Pence is worse. Pence is as crazy as Bolton, but he keeps his mouth shut most of the time. Pence was intended as Impeachment insurance for Trump, or at least that was the talk back when he was picked.

    I don’t want to see Trump impeached, simply because the democrats shouldn’t ever be allowed to get more power than they have now.

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  144. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete

    ...thus transforming Athenian democracy into what is known today as ‘ representative democracy’ which represents none other than those who are totally devoid of any human values, the true psychopaths, sociopaths, freaks, liars and fools.
     
    Even the much ballyhooed Athenian democracy only lasted a short time and I haven't had time to check out my theory, but I suspect it only lasted as long as the silver mines at Laurion ( just outside Athens) were producing.

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.

    As far as "representative" democracy is concerned you are correct and the anti-federalists were onto the scam as well.

    As for Robing G's challenge, I'd like to know what Robin's plan is. I suspect it's somewhat humorous.

    What makes you think I have a plan? I’m just looking for anything effective.

    Joe L. and the coterie that decry voting don’t have a plan, is the point. Complain, but suggest nothing. NOT voting is for even bigger suckers. Disengage, so the system rolls on without them.

    Then QNA jumps in about “civil society organizations.” Sound like Soros color revolution ops, don’t they? As if the US gov’t. gives a shit about “international pressure.” US gov’t. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.

    QNA’s orgs are okay, so keep trying. But at least realize that the point of those orgs is to build pressure on the gov’t. that exists. They’re not calling for violent revolution.

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    What makes you think I have a plan?
     
    What makes you think that I think you have a plan? I wuz jist throwin yer question back at ya, and if you read my comment you'll see that I suspected you didn't have a plan.

    Joe L. and the coterie that decry voting don’t have a plan, is the point.
     
    That's only one point and you made a poor attempt at demonstrating it. How do you know that we and the rest of the "coterie" don't have a plan? Why would we blast it all over the place at this time? Why would we announce any plan to those who wouldn't understand in any case?

    In case yer still confused about the real point, maybe this'll help.:

    Blind and deaf, yet she perceived and understood the scam. Note the date.

    “Are not the dominant parties managed by the ruling classes, that is, the propertied classes, solely for the profit and privilege of the few?
    They use us millions to help them into power. They tell us like so many children that our safety lies in voting for them. They toss us crumbs of concession to make us believe that they are working in our interest. “

    -Helen Keller,OUT OF THE DARK, LETTER TO AN ENGLISH WOMAN- SUFFRAGIST* Copyright, 1907

    http://archive.org/stream/outdarkessaysle01kellgoog/outdarkessaysle01kellgoog_djvu.txt
     


    “…the major political parties have not represented a real political issue since the 1860s. These parties have not stood for opposite political principles; they have differed only about methods.”

    Rose Wilder Lane Give Me Liberty 1936,1954 p49

    https://mises.org/system/tdf/Give%20Me%20Liberty_3.pdf?file=1&type=document


     

    One more, and note the date as well..:

    “[Teddy]Roosevelt then said : "Pettigrew, you know the two old parties are just alike. They are both controlled by the same influences…”

    - R. F. Pettigrew, “Imperial Washington,” The story of American Public life from 1870 to 1920 (1922), p 234
    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt/search?q1=amiable;id=yale.39002002948025;view=1up;seq=7;start=1;sz=10;page=search;orient=0


     

    , @QNA
    'As if the US gov’t. gives a shit about “international pressure.” US gov’t. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.'

    Spoken like a woman who's never seen what goes on in Geneva. Who's never seen her government babble and cringe and make fools of themselves in front of their victims with the whole world looking on. Who's never noticed the government scrambling to propitiate the treaty parties who make their binding law. Here, do yourself a favor, get past facile leftist defeatism:

    http://www.treatybodywebcast.org/

    'They’re not calling for violent revolution.'

    Spoken like an FBI provocateur. The Soviet bloc was destroyed quite peacefully. That is how the USA will go. Black Alliance for Peace is in fact looking ahead to the end of the USA. The USA has broken the cardinal rule: don't piss off people who know how to knock over a regime. (and that doesn't mean Soros, they're dilettantes with no grasp of revolution in practice.) That's the reason for this xenophobic propaganda panic.
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  145. @jacques sheete

    The buffoon is truly an asshat. It was to mollify his base.
     
    I suspect the tariff issue is an attempt to mollify them as well. Behind closed doors it'll be business as usual.

    Casting ballots is for suckers.

    I’m all for being mollified. I couldn’t care less what goes on behind closed doors as long as they bring the tariffs on! Whatever his IQ Trump has finally done what no other Pres in generations had the sense to do. The rest could not spell IQ.

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    How many factories do you expect will be built and staffed as a result of those tariffs?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itAVYCiJ43g

    Goldman ("Spengler) addressed the wariness of investors to take on development of significant physical facilities in USA (preferring, instead, less capital-intensive software innovations) because Chinese and other emerging third world labor would still be cheaper; China can still build it cheaper.
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  146. @Jake
    The most viciously self-righteous Israel-First Hawks, the ones who would be happy to see a mere 10 or 12 million dead if their good intentions could be realized, indeed are back fully in the saddle.

    They are morally blind, or even morally perverse, from wearing blinkers and operating from the deep-seated, marrow bone, WASP faith, going back to the earliest Anglo-Saxon 'Puritans' and epitomized in Oliver Cromwell, that the Anglo-Saxon race proves its being the race chosen to rule the world by being the race that sees itself as the race that is chosen to rule the world.

    It's a nice Talmudic circle. And it - as archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell himself realized - required taking Jewish money and allying with Jews against, eventually, all other white Gentiles.

    “They are morally blind, or even morally perverse”

    I prefer the term morally retarded. It’s more descriptive of the way I view such people. Morals are just out of reach for people like Pompeo and his ilk. Morality can’t be grafted onto their shriveled souls.

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  147. @Anatoly Karlin
    Republicans recently lost in Pennsylvania. I don't follow American politics closely these days, but that's bad - real bad.

    Biden? Don’t make me laugh.
     
    Biden would beat Trump easy. So long as the Dems don't run some far left harpy (e.g. Kamala Harris) - which, in fairness, they might well do - Trump is done for.

    “Biden would beat Trump easy.”

    You ain’t from ’round here, are you, boy?

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    I spent a decade in the US.

    And why do I need to be "around here" when I can recall polls from 2016 which showed that any major Dem apart from Hillary would beat Trump easily?

    Oh, and Trump is less popular now, than he was during most of his campaign.

    Short of the Dems wheeling out Hillary's shuffling corpse or some SJW ethnic minority harpy, Trump will lose as things stand now.
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  148. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete
    Ooops.

    It should read.:

    In any case it was not a true democracy in that about 2/3 of the population were not participants in government. Women, slaves and of course children were excluded.

    And amongst that 1/3 of Athenians, tyranny of the majority anyway.

    Forgot to include (and thanks to Seamus for posting Caitlin Johnstone first), captures my sentiments, “… now there’s no one left but us homeless nonpartisans…”

    “In addition to Democrats being forced to spend 2016 gaslighting themselves into believing that a warmongering neocon who supported the Iraq war would make a great First Female President, they have also been manipulated by the cult of blind anti-Trumpism into accepting neoconservative death worshippers like Bill Kristol, David Frum and Max Boot into their #Resistance fold.

    So the American mainstream has been successfully manipulated on both sides of the artificial political divide into supporting vestigial Bush neocons, with #TheResistance proudly retweeting depraved death cultists like Bill Kristol while a majority of the #MAGA crowd support Trump’s elevation of Bolton, and now there’s no one left but us homeless nonpartisans to point and scream about where this all seems to be headed.

    Partisan hack Trump supporters are worthless. Partisan hack Democrats are equally worthless. Only those who have awakened from the relentless barrage of mass media psyops and seen beyond the fake uniparty trap can see what’s going on.”

    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dems-kept-cheerleading-bush-era-neocons-now-theres-one-in-the-white-house-84a8e32a1e25

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  149. @Sean
    The Malaysian Chinese were brought in by the Jap army mainly, and the British put them into concentration camps and then expelled them.

    https://law.yale.edu/yls-today/news/professor-amy-chua-publishes-book-political-tribes
    Chua devotes a chapter of her book examining the Vietnam War. Viewing the war through a Cold War communist-versus-capitalist lens, Chua argues, the U.S. completely missed the ethnic dimension of that conflict, which to this day remains almost completely unknown. Inside Vietnam, a deeply resented one percent ethnic Chinese minority controlled as much as 80 percent of the country’s commercial wealth. In other words, a vastly disproportionate number of Vietnam’s “capitalists” were seen as exploitative outsiders, despised by the Vietnamese, both northern and southern. Because we overlooked the ethnic side of the conflict, Chua writes, the U.S. failed to see that every pro-capitalist step it took in Vietnam only inflamed popular resentment. And the United States has persisted in this group blindness abroad, contributing directly to the debacles in Iraq, Venezuela, and Afghanistan.

     

    As in so many places the clever minority were disproportionately dominant in everything they did. Accordingly in south Vietnam, younger Chinese joined the gorillas to a notable extent and made up a high proportion of the VC, especially in command structure (eliminated in the Tet Offensive). Saigon's Chinese district was notoriously dangerous for GIs .

    Ethnic Chinese were all kicked out as the Boat People of course. McMaster wrote a book about the failure of civilian leadership to understand what was needed in the Vietnam war but he failed to grasp the constraints in Nam, because the proven proclivity of the Chinese for intervention (eg in Korea) meant that the US was chary about what might provoke China, and they would never have allowed a Phoenix Program against ethnic Chinese as such. Anyway, expulsion works

    https://www.vdare.com/articles/is-population-transfer-the-solution-to-the-palestinian-problem-and-some-others

    Failure to recognize the reality of group identity n ethnic politics is the distinguishing mark of American ideology at home n abroad. It is the mote in Godzilla’s eye. The blind spot that everyone perceives but which may never be mentioned or allowed to influence policy–even when that policy has been hijacked resulting in riots, wars, n wrecked institutions.

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  150. @geokat62
    https://twitter.com/ifamericansknew/status/977622769331445760?s=21

    A clear argument for the criminalization of dual citizenship.

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  151. wayfarer says:
    @Art
    Wayfarer,

    There should be before and after NYC 9/11 pictures.

    Only then we can begin to appreciate the amount of destruction unleashed by that devilish act.

    Hmm – 9/11 – who benefited?

    What nation has exhibited hate for the peoples of those cities.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Add it up - millions and millions of hurt lives!

    September 11, 2001 – United Airlines Flight 93
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

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    The animation is wrong, according to the coroner, a USA correspondent wrote me, the plane 'atomised'.
    How this miracle was performed by stupid Muslim terrorists, I still wonder.
    MH17 and MH370 were not atomised.
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  152. RobinG says:
    @QNA
    RobinG, there's more to civil society than electoral politics. Even before you saw the DNC and Podesta emails, you had to know your electoral ceremony had futility built in. The Electoral Integrity Project ranks US elections last among Western nations.

    https://theconversation.com/american-elections-ranked-worst-among-western-democracies-heres-why-56485

    Gilens and Page already proved that you're not rich enough to have any say in elections.

    If you went into a restaurant and there were always two items on the menu, the shit sandwich and the low-fat shit sandwich, Would you eat there? Of course not, you'd firebomb the place.

    There's an alternative staring you in the face. Treaty bodies, charter bodies, and special procedures have forced more reform than any elections in the past twenty years. And those processes are much more open to public participation, because they draw on inputs from independent civil society organizations that the duopoly parties ruthlessly suppress.

    One way to get involved is: ushrnetwork.org
    Another is blackallianceforpeace.com
    A third is economichumanrights.org

    Get into that instead of party politics and interesting things happen. You stop wasting your time on two- or four-year cycles where you pick a predetermined side and sit and wave your pom-poms in the stands, recite slogans that change nothing, and get screwed again and again. You have a different set of four-year cycles: treaty body review of binding human rights instruments, which oversee your government based on comprehensive world-standard criteria, chapter and verse. Unlike your authorized political parties, they actually, institutionally give a shit what you think. You see them working with your civil society organizations to pin down government derelictions in Geneva in the most public forum in the world. The US government doesn't care what you think, but they are exquisitely sensitive to international pressure.

    When your government loses your trust, you go over its head to the world.

    QNA: “One way to get involved is: ushrnetwork.org”

    Here’s one of [your] brilliant USHRN Organization Members in action -

    Amnesty International: Trumpeting for War… Again

    One must marvel at the first few paragraphs of Amnesty International’s recent press release:
    [It's] an unambiguous call and a justification for war; it seems that AI is calling for a NATO bombing campaign similar to the one staged in Libya in 2011. There is also no ambiguity as to who AI deems to be culpable and ought to be at the receiving end of a “humanitarian bombing” campaign. Before cheering yet another US/NATO war, it is useful to analyse Amnesty International’s record in assisting propaganda campaigns on the eve of wars. It is also worthwhile reviewing AI’s reporting on Syria, and how it compares with that on other countries in the area.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/23/100699/print/

    Also, re. your “advice,” my first concern is war, not identity politics.

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    Yes, it's a big tent, with the usual entryist attempts by statist hand-wringers. AI is indeed a bunch of thots. Fortunately the many non-astroturf groups are consistently obstreperous in the conferences and calls so AI can't get away with their Blow Shit Up for Peace campaigns there. Whatever you want to do, you just do it and use the network to take it directly to other members and to the outside world in Geneva.

    The guy who founded ushrnetwork moved on himself, to focus on peace with an internationalist solidarity M.O. That's the second link.

    Don't confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you'll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.

    I detect some reflexive hostility in your word choice, like the sarcastic use of brilliant and advice in scare quotes. Do you have different organizing principles that you prefer? Surely you do not hope to vote your way to peace.
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  153. @anonymous

    Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes it for it’s evil deads.
     
    Ooo, is one supposed to be impressed by such "profundity"?

    The Evil Empire is the Darkness, you degenerate.


    The Truth
     
    LOL! Are you talking about "The Truth"?

    Only hallucinating fools consider such nonsense as "100% God & 100% man," as The Truth...

    Even Holmes will be stumped by the Mystery of the 200% Whole. ;)


    Good Guys
     
    Sigh!

    It will not end well for the "Good Guys."

    Only hallucinating fools consider such nonsense as “100% God & 100% man,” as The Truth…

    Or maybe your scoffing, faggoty-ass take on the hypostatic union simply isn’t what the Church actually believes. You may be too sheep-humping stupid to understand “two natures in one Divine person,” but Augustine, Aquinas, and Pascal were not.

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  154. Miro23 says:
    @Art
    In politics, power is everything. No one in Washington is loyal to Trump – Republicans, Democrats, bureaucrats, and j-media are all in some way or other loyal to the deep state. Even worse, most of them are loyal to Israel first. Even his own daughter is loyal to Israel first. Trump has no friends in the DC halls of power.

    Clearly Bolton is not voter friendly. If Trump should bring America to the brink of another war – he will lose his power with the voters. His friend the stock market is fickle.

    He has so many things going against him, sooner or later something is going to stick. It is 50/50 he will be another broken Nixon figure with at the most four years in power. After Nixon, conservative American values took a huge blow. The same is going to happen with Trump – the J-MSM will see to it.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Trump’s “I will veto the spending bill” hokum was a pathetic waste of words that impressed no one.

    In politics, power is everything. No one in Washington is loyal to Trump – Republicans, Democrats, bureaucrats, and j-media are all in some way or other loyal to the deep state. Even worse, most of them are loyal to Israel first. Even his own daughter is loyal to Israel first. Trump has no friends in the DC halls of power.

    But there is another kind of power. If the US public could re-familiarize themselves with the art of street demonstrations, this could prove lethal to the Deep State (DS). The DS can leverage its power through targeting individuals (Congressmen, academics, journalists etc. ) but it has far more difficulty dealing with diffuse opposition (as in an election).

    Public demonstrations are the ultimate diffuse threat, and would force the DS to act – and this is the point – DS violence would become explicit and visible, rather than the usual back door variety. The US public would likely wake up at this point (with the direct contact), while radicalization would expose Pelosi, Ryan and the other collaborators, putting them in a much more dangerous place.

    A motive for street action would be Anti-War. Trump was elected on Anti-War but is going for more ME conflict and more $ Trillions of debt.

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    Men are welcome. So are ideas.



    Women Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    Women's Peace March on the Pentagon


    Peace Activist Cindy Sheehan (whose oldest son Casey was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004), has envisioned a Women's March to address out of control US militarism, one of the root causes of violence against women.

    CINDY WILL BE LEADING MEETINGS ON THE EAST COAST IN APRIL

    April 5th in Washington DC
    April 9th in Boston
    April 10th in NYC
    April 12th in Long Island
    APRIL 13TH: LANCASTER, PA


    CONTACT: [email protected] COM

    http://cindysheehanssoapbox. blogspot.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/ events/184236778838247/? active_tab=discussion
     
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Marches don't really accomplish much, especially when the government is as detached from the electorate as is visible today. The marches in GB against the invasion of Iraq were huge but did nothing to stop it. British police have also developed new strategies to disrupt and confound marchers and protesters, such as "kettling" them by boxing them into cramped, confined spaces where there is no access to food or water. Hard to imagine they don't share tactics. Agent provocateurs have also been used to "turn" the protest violent and allow oppressive measure to be used.

    A general strike is a better solution with people calling in 'sick' or going slow on the job. Very slow pedestrians blocking streets and stations so that people can't get to work on time so business suffers greatly and pressure is brought to bear by those with greater access and influence, business owners.

    Some of the older and simpler methods, like handbills, posters and stencils are effective too and harder to thwart. It won't be easy and those in control can reduce access to food and other staples so the less well prepared will suffer more than they need to. Things are so bad now that suffering of some sort is inevitable as has always been the case for the common man when nations choose to go to war.
    , @Art

    But there is another kind of power. If the US public could re-familiarize themselves with the art of street demonstrations, this could prove lethal to the Deep State (DS)

     

    Miro23,

    There two reasons why we do not have peace demonstrations. The first is that the Jews do NOT want peace. Jews want war – Jews benefit from war. No money or publicity will be given to peace organizations. The opposite will happen. The J-MSM will do their best to ignore them. The normal avenues of public discourse are closed off to peace movements.

    The second is elitist feminism. Traditionally, peace movements are fostered and organized by a segment of women. Naturally they do not want to see their fathers, husbands, and sons die and be maimed by war. But today’s elite feminists want to be seen, as tough as men. They promote lower class women fighting in the military.

    An active internet can bypass the anti-peace forces.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  155. RobinG says:
    @Miro23

    In politics, power is everything. No one in Washington is loyal to Trump – Republicans, Democrats, bureaucrats, and j-media are all in some way or other loyal to the deep state. Even worse, most of them are loyal to Israel first. Even his own daughter is loyal to Israel first. Trump has no friends in the DC halls of power.
     
    But there is another kind of power. If the US public could re-familiarize themselves with the art of street demonstrations, this could prove lethal to the Deep State (DS). The DS can leverage its power through targeting individuals (Congressmen, academics, journalists etc. ) but it has far more difficulty dealing with diffuse opposition (as in an election).

    Public demonstrations are the ultimate diffuse threat, and would force the DS to act - and this is the point - DS violence would become explicit and visible, rather than the usual back door variety. The US public would likely wake up at this point (with the direct contact), while radicalization would expose Pelosi, Ryan and the other collaborators, putting them in a much more dangerous place.

    A motive for street action would be Anti-War. Trump was elected on Anti-War but is going for more ME conflict and more $ Trillions of debt.

    Men are welcome. So are ideas.

    Women Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    Women’s Peace March on the Pentagon

    Peace Activist Cindy Sheehan (whose oldest son Casey was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004), has envisioned a Women’s March to address out of control US militarism, one of the root causes of violence against women.

    CINDY WILL BE LEADING MEETINGS ON THE EAST COAST IN APRIL

    April 5th in Washington DC
    April 9th in Boston
    April 10th in NYC
    April 12th in Long Island
    APRIL 13TH: LANCASTER, PA

    CONTACT: [email protected] COM

    http://cindysheehanssoapbox. blogspot.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/ events/184236778838247/? active_tab=discussion

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    Men are welcome. So are ideas.
     
    My idea is that the Oct March should be rebranded to:

    Americans Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    American Peace March on the Pentagon
     

    Just as there were marches organized to protest the looming invasion of Iraq, the American people should participate in marches to protest against the looming attacks on Iran.
    , @Art

    Women Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    Women’s Peace March on the Pentagon
     

    Think Peace!

    Art

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  156. Miro23 says:
    @Sin City Milla
    The US was not defeated in Korea by China but held back by the very real threat of Soviet invasion. China was the left arm of the Soviets at the time n Stalin had his stronger right arm Red Army ready to intervene if China got in trouble, which would have rapidly forced a total US defeat n evacuation. China could never have resisted the US without massive Soviet military support n advisors, n only massive clandestine Soviet support allowed the Chinese military to survive its war in Korea.

    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.

    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.

    Interesting that you assume that China would face off against the US, and I have to agree with that.

    In a US/Russia confrontation (which is very possible), the worst outcome from the Chinese POV would be a Russian defeat, since Russia is the only country that can challenge the US militarily. China alone has no chance and would be reduced to servitude.

    So, if the face off starts in Syria/Iran the Chinese more or less have to immediately side with Russia for geo-political reasons – not just to protect their investments – and at that point, the US might hesitate if it faced a dual war with Russia and China,

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    In a US/Russia confrontation (which is very possible), the worst outcome from the Chinese POV would be a Russian defeat, since Russia is the only country that can challenge the US militarily. China alone has no chance and would be reduced to servitude.
     
    Not just servitude but destruction. The wannabe NWO masters don't plan on ruling over homogeneous, 105 IQ goyim. As a matter of fact, China better up their nuclear capability to the world-ending range in case Russia gets taken out internally after Putin is gone. Some of these deformed globalists are happy to emerge from their shelters years later and rule the world - unless you make it uninhabitable for complex life.

    Desperate times require desperate measures.
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  157. @Twodees Partain
    Regardless of that kind of rumor, Iran has a strong military that would be very hard to defeat on its own ground. If Iran was beatable in a conventional ground war, the US military would likely have been sent in long ago. There have been more credible (but still false) pretexts for attacking Iran before and it hasn't been ordered.

    The IDF wouldn't last long against the Iranian Army. In fact, the IDF isn't up to much anyway. That's probably why the Israelis have been hoping to get the US to fight Iran for them.

    After Vietnam, a USA ground war against a determined enemy became impossible.
    Iraq was possible because of the nature of the country.
    Iran is a mountain country, as in the war against Japan, USA losses would be unbearable politically.
    The USA puppet shah is not forgotten.

    No unconditional surrender of Japan, USA loss of life of a million, impossible.
    Robert J.C. Butow, ‘JAPAN’S Decision to Surrender’, Stanford, 1954

    Bombing does not do the trick, as we see in Syria.
    Arming and training rebels, as a USA general admitted before the Senate ‘one does not always know if one arms the right group’.
    A great disadvantage may be that very few USA military speak local languages, what interpreters tell, who knows ?

    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?
    IS and hatred, I think.

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    Yes, those points are good illustrations of how an invasion of Iran would likely be a failure. I hold out hope that the neocons will show their asses enough that they may become pariahs and subject to being beaten in the streets when they dare to show themselves in public, if not tried and convicted of treason.
    , @KA
    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?

    What does US gain by maintaining , supporting, watching FOX CNN MSNBC or by printing and reading NYT or WSJ ? What does US gain by criticism of Russia? What does US gain by minting embargo on Cuba ,Venezuela , NK?

    Never common folks gained much other than a sense of belonging to high achiever high IQ highly refined culture or club known as a nation. It's they who the proffering elites benefitting from war and propaganda would depend when times come to physically defend the system . Thats what the school drop out from Virginia ,the deplorable from MI and Ohio could offer having no other skill or resources .
    FOX CNN MSNBC or reading of NYT or WSJ or the local news paper only perpetuate the false dreams and false sense of being in the know by these , McDonald server s , army enthusiast , school drop- out ,poorly paid nurses and teachers and song writers for the empire hollering at a church in Alabama or Texas .

    , @Sean
    Iran would be more difficult than Libya, but still doable. The problem in Vietnam that MacMaster did not take account of in his book was that there was a possibility of China intervening if the US took decisive action, but the US could not just walk away because it was losing (the world was watching TO SEE IF THEY WOULD STAND BY THEIR ALLY). Moreover there was no political mandate in the US to withdraw without victory. JFK never ever mentioned that possibility, even in private. Basically the army would have won Vietnam if it had called out the reserves (including chickenhawk John Bolton who, as he admitted, was dodging a muddy end in rice paddy by volunteering for the Yale National Guard).The US wanted to win but not pay the price. US national mobilization was required to win in Vietnam as head of the Army General Harold Johnson later said.

    MacMaster was sacked for wanting to keep the Iran deal, and that means he did not want to attack Iran. Anyway Iran is not going to require a occupation The Iranian leadership are sweating silver bullets, they know Bolton has been brought in for war, and an attack is definitely coming.
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  158. @wayfarer
    September 11, 2001 - United Airlines Flight 93
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

    https://climatism.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/911-crash.gif

    The animation is wrong, according to the coroner, a USA correspondent wrote me, the plane ‘atomised’.
    How this miracle was performed by stupid Muslim terrorists, I still wonder.
    MH17 and MH370 were not atomised.

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    "False Flags: A History of Deception"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8tkz-zkm8g
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  159. @Twodees Partain
    "Biden would beat Trump easy."

    You ain't from 'round here, are you, boy?

    I spent a decade in the US.

    And why do I need to be “around here” when I can recall polls from 2016 which showed that any major Dem apart from Hillary would beat Trump easily?

    Oh, and Trump is less popular now, than he was during most of his campaign.

    Short of the Dems wheeling out Hillary’s shuffling corpse or some SJW ethnic minority harpy, Trump will lose as things stand now.

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    "And why do I need to be “around here” "

    It was a joke in reference to the fact that you aren't American, Anatoly. You could spend several decades here and still not understand American electoral politics, just as I could live in Russia for decades and never understand Russian politics as well as a Russian can.

    More importantly, living here for ten years doesn't grant deep insights into the thinking of Americans as a people, unless the whole point of living here is to study all the various ethnicities and local idiosyncracies. Even then, you'd be at a disadvantage, as I would be in Russia.

    Your opinion is, of course as valid as mine and no insult was intended.

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  160. Where does this fit in?

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/israeli-victory-essential-for-middle-east-peace/news-story/d9662ba5fc6b0c3e9d3aa8a42c6cb85a

    It is by Daniel Pipes

    Something similar would no doubt be found on the Middle East Forum’s website

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    Where does this fit in?

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/israeli-victory-essential-for-middle-east-peace/news-story/d9662ba5fc6b0c3e9d3aa8a42c6cb85a

    It is by Daniel Pipes
     
    Where anything from Daniel Pipes belongs - safely flushed away with the rest of the night soil.
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  161. Rogue says:
    @Rurik

    So what does your analysis say about those who voted for Trump? Buyer’s remorse? Full-fledged idiocy?
     
    no

    what it says is that the people who voted for Trump are moral, and that we rejected contrived zio-wars that slaughter innocent people.

    Just like Americans rejected the war when they voted for Wilson, and he promised to keep us out of the war. But the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    Americans rejected the war when they voted for FDR, when he promised to keep us out of the zio-WWII- but the zio-scum dragged us in though treachery

    and we rejected the satanic zio-wars in the Middle East, when we elected Trump, and he promised to end the evil being done in our name, but the zio-scum are dragging us in, though treachery, as usual

    but, even with all of that, it's still ragingly obvious that even as Trump is betraying all of us Deplorables, and betraying the decent people of the planet, who held so much hope in him, as he's succumbing to the zio-treachery of The Fiend

    still, STILL - he is gazillion to the ~nth power, better in every way over the war hag.

    for one, if the American electorate would have voted for the war sow, then that would mean that we are truly irredeemable, and unapologetic for the unprecedented evils the zio-American government has been perpetrating all over the globe.

    but by rejecting the cackling war sow, that means that Americans aspired to be decent people, and were hoping that maybe even the war hag, and her counterpart Obama, might even be sent to the Hague to be charged for war crimes, and then put in a cage, where they belong. Or hanged by the neck, if found guilty.

    so by electing Trump, even as he has turned out to betray us all too, at least we tried to end the Fiend's Eternal Wars. And give the planet some shred of hope, for a future without the zio-scum destroying all of our lives, even as they murder their way across the planet.

    So go ahead and do your victory dance Corvy, and high-five your homies. It looks like Trump is just another zio-tool, and your agenda will reign ascendant after all.

    I like your reply to Mr Smartass, but there is one detail I must pick up on.

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so? After all, Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and declared war on the US. A week later Germany declared war on the US as well.

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round. The treaty Germany had with Japan certainly didn’t oblige them to so act, as it was a defensive treaty.

    Very possibly the USA would have gone to war with Germany anyway, but that we can only speculate on.

    Can you further enlighten me?

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    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round.
     
    The fact that someone declares war is essentially meaningless vis a vis the question of who started it because the shooting phases of war typically follow economic and diplomatic phases of it.

    As you appear to know, the US waged economic war on Japan long before the attack on Pearl. In a similar fashion, the US had been waging war against Germany long before Germany declared war on the US.

    Also note that American Jews boycotted Germany and declared war on Germany in 1933, the same year that FDR recognized the USSR which was a huge threat to the peace and well being of Germany.

    https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

    For further details look up the antics of Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist activist.

    , @jacques sheete
    Rogue, here's a 7,000 word monograph which should provide some background info on who was responsible for WW2, which, as Churchill* himself admitted , was really a continuation of WW1.

    http://www.newensign.christsassembly.com/McKilliam/Causes_and_Effects_of_World_I.pdf


    *I must regard these volumes a continuation of the history of the First World War…

    -Winston Churchill, The Second World War, The Gathering Storm, vol 1, p. xiii (1948)
    , @jacques sheete
    Rogue, you might find Raico's book full of good info. This is relevant to the article's main topic as well.

    Churchill had been a strong Zionist practically from the start, holding that Zionism would deflect European Jews from social revolution to partnership with European imperialism in the Arab world.69 Now, in 1936, he forged links with the informal London pressure group known as e Focus, whose purpose was to open the eyes of the British public to the one great menace, Nazi Germany. “e great bulk of its finance came from Jewish businessmen such as Sir Robert Mond (a director of several chemical firms) and Sir Robert Waley-Cohn, the managing director of Shell, the laer contributing £50,000.” e Focus was to be useful in expanding Churchill’s network of contacts and in pushing for his entry into the Cabinet.70

    -Ralph Raico, Great Wars and Great Leaders, p 70 (2010)
    https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Great%20Wars%20and%20Great%20Leaders%20A%20Libertarian%20Rebuttal_2.pdf

     

    , @Rurik

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so?
     
    by controlling the banks and the money supply

    Rothschild's control of England is legendary. The real (and never mentioned reason for the American revolution was the British demand that the American colonies use fiat debt paper as their currency, which would mean slavery to the Bank of England. That was also the reason for the war of 1812, because Rothschild was determined to enslave all governments and people. Andrew Jackson had their number, and so did many patriots.

    I mean why the f' would any sane nation want to have their currency provided by the world's greediest men - at interest, that by design can never be paid off, when they can simply print their own?!

    It means slavery. Debt slavery to evil men.

    That's why it's in the Constitution that the US print and coin its own currency. But Wilson betrayed us all, and not just Americans, but the world, because after the Jews got their WWII, the Federal Reserve Note was designated as the world's reserve currency, thereby enslaving the entire planet to the tender mercies of the world's most evil men; the International Zionist Banksters.

    so this had been going on for a while now, and it was Wilson who arranged for Trotsky to go to Moscow with suitcases full of cash, in order to fund the Bolshevik revolution, that would enslave Russia with that other invention of the International Jew; communism.

    This is why Hitler railed against both capitalism and communism as methods of evil men to enslave their betters.

    anyways, it's all tied together. We didn't get where we are overnight

    (must go- to be continued)
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  162. Moi says:
    @The Alarmist
    Why go out with a whimper when you can go out with a bang?

    That would be our choice–but we’ve no business taking the rest with us.

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  163. Moi says:
    @renfro
    I wonder if anyone here is going to start defending Trump with the absurd...'he's playing 3 dimensional chess'...or the excuse that he's 'keeping his friends close but his enemies closer'.

    Thy need to realize that Trump is the swamp and he is scrapping the bottom of the swamp and bringing the psychopathic swamp slime of Bolton and Gina Haspel into his adm.

    I hope Mueller nails his ass and little Kushner's on something---they should be gotten out of the WH.
    Pence can't be any worse than Trump.

    No, Trump is not the swamp–he is the swamp creature.

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  164. @RobinG

    Awesome reality stated in “Casting ballots is for suckers.”
     
    So what's YOUR PLAN for righting the ship? Or is this your brand of virtue signaling?

    I am glad you asked for my plan, even though I admit that there no one size fits all.
    First, extreme decentralisation.
    Second, electing rulers who should assume direct responsibility for their deeds without being able to hide behind the intricacies of a system of checks and balances.
    Third, Direct democracy by people voting on any issue of major importance especially wars, defence spending and taxes.
    Forth, an education system that frees the individual’s mind from all the methodical programming that we are subjected to at schools and universities. More of an education system that emphasises unhindered creativity, frankness, freedom of speech without the shackles of political correctness, and ethical behaviour.
    In short, small, accountable government that leaves the people to assume responsibility for their deeds or actions without exentricities such as R2P or social engineering and the rest of the so called modern day liberal bullshit.
    Jacques Sheet is one commentator who can see beyond the majority of most Westerners; he sensed that American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.
    If you have a solution please state it. If you don’t, continue casting your ballots for the next layer of governmental fraudsters in our great representative democracy.

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    One technical solution to the symptom of ' voting for the lesser evil ' in our representative democracy is to keep a paper trail of all votes and to give the right of a blank vote of no preference, with any results showing more than fifty percent of the votes as ' no preference' rendering the election null and void. That kind of empowerment of the people against the rigging of elections by money or sheer electronic voting machine fraud would give the common person a true opportunity to foil the corporate and special interest influence over who is to represent the people. Wether the people will seize this opportunity or not will decide if the voters are truly free citizens or just the sheeple.
    , @jacques sheete

    ... American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.
     
    True.

    Lincoln's War was blatant proof that American democracy was a fraud if any were ever needed. Shays' and the Whiskey rebellion should have been major clues to those not asleep.

    The anti-federalists were correct in theory and in their predictions.

    Even George Carlin with all his supposed faults, stated the issue at hand clearly albeit a bit crudely.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeMGqTwWA6U
    , @RobinG
    Hey Joe,

    Thanks for trying to answer, but those are goals...(your #164 also).... that is not a plan, so let me state the queston again. How do you propose to achieve those goals?

    Street marches? (Those kids got impressive turnout yesterday ... let's see what comes of it. There were big marches in 2003, but Bush/Cheney still attacked Iraq.)
    "Civil society orgs" like QNA believes?
    Violent rebellion? You scorn voting. So, are you going to overthrow the govt.? How will you do it? (This question has probably triggered the NSA bot, LOL.)

    My guess, since you (and JS also) did not seem to understand the question, your "plan" is to keep complaining in comments sections. That's harmless.
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  165. @Joe Levantine
    I am glad you asked for my plan, even though I admit that there no one size fits all.
    First, extreme decentralisation.
    Second, electing rulers who should assume direct responsibility for their deeds without being able to hide behind the intricacies of a system of checks and balances.
    Third, Direct democracy by people voting on any issue of major importance especially wars, defence spending and taxes.
    Forth, an education system that frees the individual's mind from all the methodical programming that we are subjected to at schools and universities. More of an education system that emphasises unhindered creativity, frankness, freedom of speech without the shackles of political correctness, and ethical behaviour.
    In short, small, accountable government that leaves the people to assume responsibility for their deeds or actions without exentricities such as R2P or social engineering and the rest of the so called modern day liberal bullshit.
    Jacques Sheet is one commentator who can see beyond the majority of most Westerners; he sensed that American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.
    If you have a solution please state it. If you don't, continue casting your ballots for the next layer of governmental fraudsters in our great representative democracy.

    One technical solution to the symptom of ‘ voting for the lesser evil ‘ in our representative democracy is to keep a paper trail of all votes and to give the right of a blank vote of no preference, with any results showing more than fifty percent of the votes as ‘ no preference’ rendering the election null and void. That kind of empowerment of the people against the rigging of elections by money or sheer electronic voting machine fraud would give the common person a true opportunity to foil the corporate and special interest influence over who is to represent the people. Wether the people will seize this opportunity or not will decide if the voters are truly free citizens or just the sheeple.

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  166. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Where does this fit in?

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/israeli-victory-essential-for-middle-east-peace/news-story/d9662ba5fc6b0c3e9d3aa8a42c6cb85a

    It is by Daniel Pipes

    Something similar would no doubt be found on the Middle East Forum's website

    Where does this fit in?

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/israeli-victory-essential-for-middle-east-peace/news-story/d9662ba5fc6b0c3e9d3aa8a42c6cb85a

    It is by Daniel Pipes

    Where anything from Daniel Pipes belongs – safely flushed away with the rest of the night soil.

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    Having once heard him say that the Palestinians needed to be defeated and recognise that they were defeated (as well as saying "I don't call them 'settlements' I call them 'Israeli towns' ") I was surprised to come across this interview by coincidence just after linking the article

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/betweenthelines/daniel-pipes-on-jerusalem/9544610

    There is DP calmly suggesting that Trump may be about to support a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem!!!!

    Also I find it very difficult to work out exactly what he is recommending when he advocates defeating the Palestinians, apparently by defensive measures of deterrence.
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  167. @Randal

    Where does this fit in?

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/israeli-victory-essential-for-middle-east-peace/news-story/d9662ba5fc6b0c3e9d3aa8a42c6cb85a

    It is by Daniel Pipes
     
    Where anything from Daniel Pipes belongs - safely flushed away with the rest of the night soil.

    Having once heard him say that the Palestinians needed to be defeated and recognise that they were defeated (as well as saying “I don’t call them ‘settlements’ I call them ‘Israeli towns’ “) I was surprised to come across this interview by coincidence just after linking the article

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/betweenthelines/daniel-pipes-on-jerusalem/9544610

    There is DP calmly suggesting that Trump may be about to support a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem!!!!

    Also I find it very difficult to work out exactly what he is recommending when he advocates defeating the Palestinians, apparently by defensive measures of deterrence.

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  168. @RobinG
    What makes you think I have a plan? I'm just looking for anything effective.

    Joe L. and the coterie that decry voting don't have a plan, is the point. Complain, but suggest nothing. NOT voting is for even bigger suckers. Disengage, so the system rolls on without them.

    Then QNA jumps in about "civil society organizations." Sound like Soros color revolution ops, don't they? As if the US gov't. gives a shit about "international pressure." US gov't. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.

    QNA's orgs are okay, so keep trying. But at least realize that the point of those orgs is to build pressure on the gov't. that exists. They're not calling for violent revolution.

    What makes you think I have a plan?

    What makes you think that I think you have a plan? I wuz jist throwin yer question back at ya, and if you read my comment you’ll see that I suspected you didn’t have a plan.

    Joe L. and the coterie that decry voting don’t have a plan, is the point.

    That’s only one point and you made a poor attempt at demonstrating it. How do you know that we and the rest of the “coterie” don’t have a plan? Why would we blast it all over the place at this time? Why would we announce any plan to those who wouldn’t understand in any case?

    In case yer still confused about the real point, maybe this’ll help.:

    Blind and deaf, yet she perceived and understood the scam. Note the date.

    “Are not the dominant parties managed by the ruling classes, that is, the propertied classes, solely for the profit and privilege of the few?
    They use us millions to help them into power. They tell us like so many children that our safety lies in voting for them. They toss us crumbs of concession to make us believe that they are working in our interest. “

    -Helen Keller,OUT OF THE DARK, LETTER TO AN ENGLISH WOMAN- SUFFRAGIST* Copyright, 1907

    http://archive.org/stream/outdarkessaysle01kellgoog/outdarkessaysle01kellgoog_djvu.txt

    “…the major political parties have not represented a real political issue since the 1860s. These parties have not stood for opposite political principles; they have differed only about methods.”

    Rose Wilder Lane Give Me Liberty 1936,1954 p49

    https://mises.org/system/tdf/Give%20Me%20Liberty_3.pdf?file=1&type=document

    One more, and note the date as well..:

    “[Teddy]Roosevelt then said : “Pettigrew, you know the two old parties are just alike. They are both controlled by the same influences…”

    - R. F. Pettigrew, “Imperial Washington,” The story of American Public life from 1870 to 1920 (1922), p 234

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt/search?q1=amiable;id=yale.39002002948025;view=1up;seq=7;start=1;sz=10;page=search;orient=0

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  169. Randal says:
    @peterAUS

    Heavy relative to what the US is used to, for sure. In fact most likely “very heavy” compared to what the US has been used to since Vietnam.
     
    Yes and no.

    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that's only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?

    My point is very simple: nobody cares for casualties for the current all volunteer US military outside of people directly involved there. And, if I am not mistaken, that's mostly people in "flyover states". You haven't seen them protesting anything so far. Will they start when casualties start mounting, yes, a little and nobody will care.

    As for all that "bases, aircraft carriers" etc. I think you are for a nasty surprise there. There won't be any. Planes, yes, ships up to destroyer, yes, troops up to a platoon, per day, maybe a company at the very start, perhaps.
    Nothing that Administration can't manage and even use for its own advantage.

    I do believe you feel the same, actually.

    That........futility.......of all this can be disheartening.

    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that’s only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?

    Looks like we are probably in broad agreement on casualty levels, just not on the political impact. Certainly we are not in the world of a conscript army suffering mass infantry casualties, as in Vietnam or in Korea, but that doesn’t mean the propagandised American people will be completely unaware of and unaffected by daily losses of equipment and personnel.

    It will be more than sufficient to bring home the fact that they are in a war, and to fire up the existing political divisions, which is what matters. Then it’s just a matter of time until it becomes clear nothing of any significance is being achieved – that comes a lot quicker these days than it used to, thanks to the internet.

    As for all that “bases, aircraft carriers” etc.

    I didn’t write “aircraft carriers”, I wrote “ships”, and it appears you are in agreement with me because you yourself wrote “ships up to destroyer”.

    In reality it appears we are not far apart on loss estimates, just on our assessment of the likely impact of those losses.

    Where we do part is in your assumption of the rosiest possible scenario with regard to protection of major assets – bases and capital ships. You, as advocates of war always do, assume that everything will work and therefore there will be no unpleasant surprises. That’s understandable – you have to adopt that inherently dishonest position in order to push your war because if you were honest about the risks then people might start to ask if it is really worth it. In reality, the chances are that there are going to be mistakes and unexpected capabilities that will result in the other side “getting through”. This idea of attacking Iran is something new for the US in modern times – an attack on a substantial enemy on its home turf. It’s a lot bigger than just destroying an Iraqi expeditionary force, or invading an Iraq demoralised and reduced by years of isolation and sanctions.

    I don’t say the Iranians will necessarily get a capital ship – in part it depends on how careful the Yanks are, and whether the Iranians get lucky, but I do think some bases are probably going to get heavily hit – bases don’t move and the only thing protecting them is missile defences and counters working perfectly.

    Regardless, I think your cosy assessment about the US easily weathering – politically – the loss, say, of a couple of destroyers and a few other small ships in the initial fighting, along with ongoing aircraft losses, and probably with nothing to show for it, is most likely wrong. A couple of Arleigh Burkes, or one plus half a dozen mine countermeasures and other small ships, means up to 5-600 men lost. That, alone, is three times the number of US military men killed in the invasion of Iraq, and three times the number killed by enemy action in the 1990/91 war. And the more careful the US is about military losses, the less progress they will have to show for it after a few weeks of fighting.

    But as I said, it’s nothing new that advocates of war seek to downplay the likely costs of their desired war – they always do that, and rely on the “rally behind the troops” effect to prevent their lies from catching up with them. Often, it works. In this particular case, though, I think the uncertainties are high, the visible gains likely all but non-existent (will even the jingoist US sphere legacy media be able to make enough people care that “progress has been made” in degrading Iranian forces, a couple of weeks or a month into the fighting, with no end in sight to the war, and no plausible way to end the war even suggested other than vague fantasies of “they’ll have to give in eventually”) and the collateral economic costs high.

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    Iran is not alone anymore. Neither is Syria, Eastern Ukraine or even NK. Forget everything you know about "degrading" 3-rd world countries from the comfort of your armchair. Both Russia and China are losing their sense of humour. Red lines are everywhere and many of them have been crossed already. Make sure to thank the Tribe.

    "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own."

    (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).
     
    , @peterAUS

    Then it’s just a matter of time until it becomes clear nothing of any significance is being achieved – that comes a lot quicker these days than it used to, thanks to the internet.
     
    That works both ways. Managing public I mean.
    What is being achieved anywhere as far as that public is concerned and there are casualties?
    In this case the only what will matter is:” we are preventing the collapse of the oil trade”. Accepting death/mutilation (never shown up, just read about) of dozens of US military personnel daily will not, IMHO, create any problem for the Administration. On the contrary.

    …it appears you are in agreement with me because you yourself wrote “ships up to destroyer”.
     
    Correct. Carrier loss always comes up on this webzine when this topic is concerned. And, when I say “loss”, remember Sheffield. Or Cole. It would be like that. Won’t create any issue.

    …..you have to adopt that inherently dishonest position in order to push your war ….
     
    Haha…this is very good.
    If a British gentleman can write something like that what can one expect from the rest of the crew here. Even you can’t accept that I am trying to put some cold facts here in a sea of wishful groupthink in an echo chamber. No prob. More to come.

    It’s a lot bigger than just destroying an Iraqi expeditionary force, or invading an Iraq demoralised and reduced by years of isolation and sanctions.
     
    It is bigger. My point is not so big to create serious domestic problems for Administration.

    Regardless, I think your cosy assessment about the US easily weathering – politically – the loss, say, of a couple of destroyers and a few other small ships in the initial fighting, along with ongoing aircraft losses, and probably with nothing to show for it, is most likely wrong. A couple of Arleigh Burkes, or one plus half a dozen mine countermeasures and other small ships, means up to 5-600 men lost.
     
    Wrong.
    You take ship loss with all hands. No. Ship loss as sunk, burnt down, but, with say, 60-70 men lost. Same for sweepers etc. Altogether around less than 1000. Remember Falklands?
    Bottom line, shall not affect the Administration in a negative way.

    But as I said, it’s nothing new that advocates of war seek to downplay the likely costs of their desired war – they always do that, and rely on the “rally behind the troops” effect to prevent their lies from catching up with them. Often, it works.
     
    Yes and it does.
    It will this time too.
    Just keep "no oil-economy collapse" mantra high and up.
    At least for three months.
    Three...........months.........only.
    After that could be "end of major hostilities, pulling out, peace negotiations, blah...blah...".
    Sounds familiar?
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  170. @Joe Levantine
    I am glad you asked for my plan, even though I admit that there no one size fits all.
    First, extreme decentralisation.
    Second, electing rulers who should assume direct responsibility for their deeds without being able to hide behind the intricacies of a system of checks and balances.
    Third, Direct democracy by people voting on any issue of major importance especially wars, defence spending and taxes.
    Forth, an education system that frees the individual's mind from all the methodical programming that we are subjected to at schools and universities. More of an education system that emphasises unhindered creativity, frankness, freedom of speech without the shackles of political correctness, and ethical behaviour.
    In short, small, accountable government that leaves the people to assume responsibility for their deeds or actions without exentricities such as R2P or social engineering and the rest of the so called modern day liberal bullshit.
    Jacques Sheet is one commentator who can see beyond the majority of most Westerners; he sensed that American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.
    If you have a solution please state it. If you don't, continue casting your ballots for the next layer of governmental fraudsters in our great representative democracy.

    … American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.

    True.

    Lincoln’s War was blatant proof that American democracy was a fraud if any were ever needed. Shays’ and the Whiskey rebellion should have been major clues to those not asleep.

    The anti-federalists were correct in theory and in their predictions.

    Even George Carlin with all his supposed faults, stated the issue at hand clearly albeit a bit crudely.

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  171. @Rogue
    I like your reply to Mr Smartass, but there is one detail I must pick up on.

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so? After all, Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and declared war on the US. A week later Germany declared war on the US as well.

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round. The treaty Germany had with Japan certainly didn't oblige them to so act, as it was a defensive treaty.

    Very possibly the USA would have gone to war with Germany anyway, but that we can only speculate on.

    Can you further enlighten me?

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round.

    The fact that someone declares war is essentially meaningless vis a vis the question of who started it because the shooting phases of war typically follow economic and diplomatic phases of it.

    As you appear to know, the US waged economic war on Japan long before the attack on Pearl. In a similar fashion, the US had been waging war against Germany long before Germany declared war on the US.

    Also note that American Jews boycotted Germany and declared war on Germany in 1933, the same year that FDR recognized the USSR which was a huge threat to the peace and well being of Germany.

    https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

    For further details look up the antics of Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist activist.

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  172. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.
     
    Interesting that you assume that China would face off against the US, and I have to agree with that.

    In a US/Russia confrontation (which is very possible), the worst outcome from the Chinese POV would be a Russian defeat, since Russia is the only country that can challenge the US militarily. China alone has no chance and would be reduced to servitude.

    So, if the face off starts in Syria/Iran the Chinese more or less have to immediately side with Russia for geo-political reasons - not just to protect their investments - and at that point, the US might hesitate if it faced a dual war with Russia and China,

    In a US/Russia confrontation (which is very possible), the worst outcome from the Chinese POV would be a Russian defeat, since Russia is the only country that can challenge the US militarily. China alone has no chance and would be reduced to servitude.

    Not just servitude but destruction. The wannabe NWO masters don’t plan on ruling over homogeneous, 105 IQ goyim. As a matter of fact, China better up their nuclear capability to the world-ending range in case Russia gets taken out internally after Putin is gone. Some of these deformed globalists are happy to emerge from their shelters years later and rule the world – unless you make it uninhabitable for complex life.

    Desperate times require desperate measures.

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  173. @Rogue
    I like your reply to Mr Smartass, but there is one detail I must pick up on.

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so? After all, Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and declared war on the US. A week later Germany declared war on the US as well.

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round. The treaty Germany had with Japan certainly didn't oblige them to so act, as it was a defensive treaty.

    Very possibly the USA would have gone to war with Germany anyway, but that we can only speculate on.

    Can you further enlighten me?

    Rogue, here’s a 7,000 word monograph which should provide some background info on who was responsible for WW2, which, as Churchill* himself admitted , was really a continuation of WW1.

    http://www.newensign.christsassembly.com/McKilliam/Causes_and_Effects_of_World_I.pdf

    *I must regard these volumes a continuation of the history of the First World War…

    -Winston Churchill, The Second World War, The Gathering Storm, vol 1, p. xiii (1948)

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  174. @Rogue
    I like your reply to Mr Smartass, but there is one detail I must pick up on.

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so? After all, Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and declared war on the US. A week later Germany declared war on the US as well.

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round. The treaty Germany had with Japan certainly didn't oblige them to so act, as it was a defensive treaty.

    Very possibly the USA would have gone to war with Germany anyway, but that we can only speculate on.

    Can you further enlighten me?

    Rogue, you might find Raico’s book full of good info. This is relevant to the article’s main topic as well.

    Churchill had been a strong Zionist practically from the start, holding that Zionism would deflect European Jews from social revolution to partnership with European imperialism in the Arab world.69 Now, in 1936, he forged links with the informal London pressure group known as e Focus, whose purpose was to open the eyes of the British public to the one great menace, Nazi Germany. “e great bulk of its finance came from Jewish businessmen such as Sir Robert Mond (a director of several chemical firms) and Sir Robert Waley-Cohn, the managing director of Shell, the laer contributing £50,000.” e Focus was to be useful in expanding Churchill’s network of contacts and in pushing for his entry into the Cabinet.70

    -Ralph Raico, Great Wars and Great Leaders, p 70 (2010)

    https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Great%20Wars%20and%20Great%20Leaders%20A%20Libertarian%20Rebuttal_2.pdf

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    Thanks. Appreciate the several responses. Not to say I will necessarily believe what you have to say, but it will be food for thought.

    As a non-American I can only shake my head at the craven lickspittle pandering to the Zionists that goes on amongst US politicians. Beyond farce.
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  175. @Anatoly Karlin
    I spent a decade in the US.

    And why do I need to be "around here" when I can recall polls from 2016 which showed that any major Dem apart from Hillary would beat Trump easily?

    Oh, and Trump is less popular now, than he was during most of his campaign.

    Short of the Dems wheeling out Hillary's shuffling corpse or some SJW ethnic minority harpy, Trump will lose as things stand now.

    “And why do I need to be “around here” ”

    It was a joke in reference to the fact that you aren’t American, Anatoly. You could spend several decades here and still not understand American electoral politics, just as I could live in Russia for decades and never understand Russian politics as well as a Russian can.

    More importantly, living here for ten years doesn’t grant deep insights into the thinking of Americans as a people, unless the whole point of living here is to study all the various ethnicities and local idiosyncracies. Even then, you’d be at a disadvantage, as I would be in Russia.

    Your opinion is, of course as valid as mine and no insult was intended.

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  176. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG
    Men are welcome. So are ideas.



    Women Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    Women's Peace March on the Pentagon


    Peace Activist Cindy Sheehan (whose oldest son Casey was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004), has envisioned a Women's March to address out of control US militarism, one of the root causes of violence against women.

    CINDY WILL BE LEADING MEETINGS ON THE EAST COAST IN APRIL

    April 5th in Washington DC
    April 9th in Boston
    April 10th in NYC
    April 12th in Long Island
    APRIL 13TH: LANCASTER, PA


    CONTACT: [email protected] COM

    http://cindysheehanssoapbox. blogspot.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/ events/184236778838247/? active_tab=discussion
     

    Men are welcome. So are ideas.

    My idea is that the Oct March should be rebranded to:

    Americans Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    American Peace March on the Pentagon

    Just as there were marches organized to protest the looming invasion of Iraq, the American people should participate in marches to protest against the looming attacks on Iran.

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    It won't be rebranded, and for good reason. I've said this before, but in case you missed it (or couldn't process it) the title Women's March on the Pentagon is a direct rejoinder to the Pussy Warriors who refused to include anti-war concerns.

    As for what "American people should participate in," how kind of you to say. You're a good researcher, Geo, but you've made it clear that you'll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else. Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.

    The same activists are struggling to reignite a peace movement. Their position is pitifully reactionary. Countering Bolton's appointment is the latest scramble, but the first days of action were already in the pipeline:
    April 14-15, nationally coordinated regional mobilizations to challenge the war makers.
    http://www.springaction2018.org/
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  177. @jilles dykstra
    After Vietnam, a USA ground war against a determined enemy became impossible.
    Iraq was possible because of the nature of the country.
    Iran is a mountain country, as in the war against Japan, USA losses would be unbearable politically.
    The USA puppet shah is not forgotten.

    No unconditional surrender of Japan, USA loss of life of a million, impossible.
    Robert J.C. Butow, 'JAPAN'S Decision to Surrender', Stanford, 1954

    Bombing does not do the trick, as we see in Syria.
    Arming and training rebels, as a USA general admitted before the Senate 'one does not always know if one arms the right group'.
    A great disadvantage may be that very few USA military speak local languages, what interpreters tell, who knows ?

    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?
    IS and hatred, I think.

    Yes, those points are good illustrations of how an invasion of Iran would likely be a failure. I hold out hope that the neocons will show their asses enough that they may become pariahs and subject to being beaten in the streets when they dare to show themselves in public, if not tried and convicted of treason.

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  178. wayfarer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The animation is wrong, according to the coroner, a USA correspondent wrote me, the plane 'atomised'.
    How this miracle was performed by stupid Muslim terrorists, I still wonder.
    MH17 and MH370 were not atomised.

    “False Flags: A History of Deception”

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  179. annamaria says:

    Violations of international law by Justice David Williams [Family Division High Court Judge] UK: http://johnhelmer.net/the-skripal-case-goes-to-court-for-the-first-time-new-uncertainties-for-the-british-and-russian-governments/#more-18920
    “Following three days of closed-door hearings this week in London, the judge issued a ruling for publication yesterday. …
    The absence of all Russian participation in this week’s London proceeding was ignored by the judge. Nor did he attempt to explain it in his ruling.
    Section 4(7)(b) requires the judge deciding the best interests of an incapacitated person to take into account the views of “anyone engaged in caring for the person or interested in his welfare.” Williams claimed this section applies to “relatives”. The statute doesn’t say so.
    The Russian Foreign Ministry and the Russian Embassy in London say they qualify. The Russians also say that for two weeks following the March 4 attack on the Skripals – that’s more than two weeks before Williams opened his first court hearing – they made this explicit to the Home Office. There is no sign the Russian Embassy engaged British lawyers to surmount the Home Office obstacles by presenting their case in court.
    … the apparent contradiction between what he claimed in court and the statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry in Moscow: “the United Kingdom is … still denying, without any explanation, Russian officials’ consular access to Yulia Skripal envisaged by the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. For more than two weeks now, we have not been able to credibly ascertain what happened to our citizen and what condition she is actually in.”
    — The “Sir” Savile’ judges strike again.

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  180. annamaria says:

    Comments on the article by John Holmer on the violation of habeas corpus by the “flexible” UK judges: http://johnhelmer.net/the-skripal-case-goes-to-court-for-the-first-time-new-uncertainties-for-the-british-and-russian-governments/
    “After the vile decision by the arrogant Tory thug, Arbuthnot, replete with nauseating contempt for the UN Tribunal on Arbitrary Detention, all of whose members have more legal expertise in their little fingers than she in her entire carcass, in refusing Assange’s appeal, you can expect NOTHING from the UK ‘justice’ system but class hatred and bias and total subservience to Imperial diktat.”
    — The apparently incompetent Emma Arbuthnot is a wife of a war profiteer James Arbuthnot, a British politician who is a lobbyist both for Israel and the weapons industry. https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/david-cronin/are-weapons-heart-britains-romance-israel
    “In 2015, James Arbuthnot was hired by Thales UK, a branch of the French weapons-maker Thales. He had previously chaired Conservative Friends of Israel. He also sat in the British parliament for 28 years.”
    — It is possible that Justice David Williams and the Arbuthnots attend the same synagogue.
    “… the UK government has just illegally sidestepped the issuance of a writ of habeas corpus. It seems to them a clever idea but the outcome is far from that. A very lucky break for Russia is this silly UK mistake. Finally, something solid has appeared…something utterly false…but manifested in court proceedings…now Russia may press ahead to strip the UK of jurisdiction because the UK is still bound yet to the European Courts.”

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  181. KA says:
    @jilles dykstra
    After Vietnam, a USA ground war against a determined enemy became impossible.
    Iraq was possible because of the nature of the country.
    Iran is a mountain country, as in the war against Japan, USA losses would be unbearable politically.
    The USA puppet shah is not forgotten.

    No unconditional surrender of Japan, USA loss of life of a million, impossible.
    Robert J.C. Butow, 'JAPAN'S Decision to Surrender', Stanford, 1954

    Bombing does not do the trick, as we see in Syria.
    Arming and training rebels, as a USA general admitted before the Senate 'one does not always know if one arms the right group'.
    A great disadvantage may be that very few USA military speak local languages, what interpreters tell, who knows ?

    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?
    IS and hatred, I think.

    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?

    What does US gain by maintaining , supporting, watching FOX CNN MSNBC or by printing and reading NYT or WSJ ? What does US gain by criticism of Russia? What does US gain by minting embargo on Cuba ,Venezuela , NK?

    Never common folks gained much other than a sense of belonging to high achiever high IQ highly refined culture or club known as a nation. It’s they who the proffering elites benefitting from war and propaganda would depend when times come to physically defend the system . Thats what the school drop out from Virginia ,the deplorable from MI and Ohio could offer having no other skill or resources .
    FOX CNN MSNBC or reading of NYT or WSJ or the local news paper only perpetuate the false dreams and false sense of being in the know by these , McDonald server s , army enthusiast , school drop- out ,poorly paid nurses and teachers and song writers for the empire hollering at a church in Alabama or Texas .

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  183. Rurik says:
    @Rogue
    I like your reply to Mr Smartass, but there is one detail I must pick up on.

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so? After all, Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and declared war on the US. A week later Germany declared war on the US as well.

    I know all about the shenanigans prior to PH, and FDR wanting war with Germany, but it was Germany that declared war and not the other way round. The treaty Germany had with Japan certainly didn't oblige them to so act, as it was a defensive treaty.

    Very possibly the USA would have gone to war with Germany anyway, but that we can only speculate on.

    Can you further enlighten me?

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so?

    by controlling the banks and the money supply

    Rothschild’s control of England is legendary. The real (and never mentioned reason for the American revolution was the British demand that the American colonies use fiat debt paper as their currency, which would mean slavery to the Bank of England. That was also the reason for the war of 1812, because Rothschild was determined to enslave all governments and people. Andrew Jackson had their number, and so did many patriots.

    I mean why the f’ would any sane nation want to have their currency provided by the world’s greediest men – at interest, that by design can never be paid off, when they can simply print their own?!

    It means slavery. Debt slavery to evil men.

    That’s why it’s in the Constitution that the US print and coin its own currency. But Wilson betrayed us all, and not just Americans, but the world, because after the Jews got their WWII, the Federal Reserve Note was designated as the world’s reserve currency, thereby enslaving the entire planet to the tender mercies of the world’s most evil men; the International Zionist Banksters.

    so this had been going on for a while now, and it was Wilson who arranged for Trotsky to go to Moscow with suitcases full of cash, in order to fund the Bolshevik revolution, that would enslave Russia with that other invention of the International Jew; communism.

    This is why Hitler railed against both capitalism and communism as methods of evil men to enslave their betters.

    anyways, it’s all tied together. We didn’t get where we are overnight

    (must go- to be continued)

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    Ok, thanks for the reply. All food for thought - though not necessarily saying I'm going to agree.

    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda. Not that I'm a fan of him - for several reasons I'm not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.
    , @polskijoe
    Interesting reply if true (I dont know enough about US history).

    Whats interesting is Jackson was a Freemason
    and he opposed the bankers. At least it appears more aggresively then...

    Later Freemasons like Truman, Ford, Taft, Roosevelt all fell to ZioJew pressure or apologized.
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  184. QNA says:
    @RobinG

    QNA: "One way to get involved is: ushrnetwork.org"
     
    Here's one of [your] brilliant USHRN Organization Members in action -

    Amnesty International: Trumpeting for War… Again

    One must marvel at the first few paragraphs of Amnesty International’s recent press release:
    [It's] an unambiguous call and a justification for war; it seems that AI is calling for a NATO bombing campaign similar to the one staged in Libya in 2011. There is also no ambiguity as to who AI deems to be culpable and ought to be at the receiving end of a “humanitarian bombing” campaign. Before cheering yet another US/NATO war, it is useful to analyse Amnesty International’s record in assisting propaganda campaigns on the eve of wars. It is also worthwhile reviewing AI’s reporting on Syria, and how it compares with that on other countries in the area.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/23/100699/print/
     
    Also, re. your "advice," my first concern is war, not identity politics.

    Yes, it’s a big tent, with the usual entryist attempts by statist hand-wringers. AI is indeed a bunch of thots. Fortunately the many non-astroturf groups are consistently obstreperous in the conferences and calls so AI can’t get away with their Blow Shit Up for Peace campaigns there. Whatever you want to do, you just do it and use the network to take it directly to other members and to the outside world in Geneva.

    The guy who founded ushrnetwork moved on himself, to focus on peace with an internationalist solidarity M.O. That’s the second link.

    Don’t confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you’ll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.

    I detect some reflexive hostility in your word choice, like the sarcastic use of brilliant and advice in scare quotes. Do you have different organizing principles that you prefer? Surely you do not hope to vote your way to peace.

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    Don’t confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you’ll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.
     
    This is flat out false.

    Antidiscrimination is inherently part of the ideology of identity politics. Discrimination is a basic and necessary tool of human interaction, and the pretence that it is harmful when applied to "special" categories of people is the foundation of modern identity politics.
    , @Twodees Partain
    Maybe Robin's "reflexive hostility" is an announcement that she smells a communist. If she doesn't mean that, let me state that I smell a communist. You are a communist, aren't you? You may as well own up to it. There's no need to be ashamed of what you are, is there?
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  185. Sean says:
    @Sin City Milla
    The US was not defeated in Korea by China but held back by the very real threat of Soviet invasion. China was the left arm of the Soviets at the time n Stalin had his stronger right arm Red Army ready to intervene if China got in trouble, which would have rapidly forced a total US defeat n evacuation. China could never have resisted the US without massive Soviet military support n advisors, n only massive clandestine Soviet support allowed the Chinese military to survive its war in Korea.

    Things have changed greatly since. If a shooting war were to break out now, China would sink every carrier faster than Dewey sank the Spanish fleet at Manila. The US fleet is floating scrap.

    Sort of, yes. However the US were trying for invasion/ regieme change in North Korea and the CIA failed to predict China’s response (Ray Cline’s career did not suffer). It was a complete failure by the US to understand the total commitment that China had to North Korea.

    Now of course there are people trying to say that the Chinese were just stupidly overreacting, and would not make the same mistake twice with North Korea.

    https://academicarchive.snhu.edu/bitstream/handle/10474/3185/his2017compton.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
    Thus, Mao’s assessment that the U.S. intended to invade his nation, which informed his subsequent decision to send PLA troops into Korea, appears to represent a deeply flawed Chinese use of intelligence in making such a consequential wartime decision.

    Don’t you believe it, the Chinese reaction was predictable, and they would intervene to support North Korea. The diplomatic skills of North Korea and China are underestimated. Nothing is going to happen in North Korea whatever bluffs the US tries. The US knows China is not going to stand for any military action against North Korea. It could do all sorts of things to help Kim if he was attacked, and would. If the US escalated China would too.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/24/world/as-china-threatens-taiwan-it-makes-sure-us-listens.html

    In 2000 it happened again, the US tried to use diplomatically veiled nuclear threats to warn off China from intervening against Taiwan. China responded semi officially by saying very explicitly that it could hit the US mainland with nuclear missiles.

    Iran is different. Overthrowing the Iranian government will be attempted by CIA operations at first, but the chance for that has probably gone. The US are going to use military force, and then get out quick. Iran will fragment into statelets.

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  186. Sean says:
    @jilles dykstra
    After Vietnam, a USA ground war against a determined enemy became impossible.
    Iraq was possible because of the nature of the country.
    Iran is a mountain country, as in the war against Japan, USA losses would be unbearable politically.
    The USA puppet shah is not forgotten.

    No unconditional surrender of Japan, USA loss of life of a million, impossible.
    Robert J.C. Butow, 'JAPAN'S Decision to Surrender', Stanford, 1954

    Bombing does not do the trick, as we see in Syria.
    Arming and training rebels, as a USA general admitted before the Senate 'one does not always know if one arms the right group'.
    A great disadvantage may be that very few USA military speak local languages, what interpreters tell, who knows ?

    And what did the USA gain in Iraq ?
    IS and hatred, I think.

    Iran would be more difficult than Libya, but still doable. The problem in Vietnam that MacMaster did not take account of in his book was that there was a possibility of China intervening if the US took decisive action, but the US could not just walk away because it was losing (the world was watching TO SEE IF THEY WOULD STAND BY THEIR ALLY). Moreover there was no political mandate in the US to withdraw without victory. JFK never ever mentioned that possibility, even in private. Basically the army would have won Vietnam if it had called out the reserves (including chickenhawk John Bolton who, as he admitted, was dodging a muddy end in rice paddy by volunteering for the Yale National Guard).The US wanted to win but not pay the price. US national mobilization was required to win in Vietnam as head of the Army General Harold Johnson later said.

    MacMaster was sacked for wanting to keep the Iran deal, and that means he did not want to attack Iran. Anyway Iran is not going to require a occupation The Iranian leadership are sweating silver bullets, they know Bolton has been brought in for war, and an attack is definitely coming.

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  187. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @Randal

    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that’s only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?
     
    Looks like we are probably in broad agreement on casualty levels, just not on the political impact. Certainly we are not in the world of a conscript army suffering mass infantry casualties, as in Vietnam or in Korea, but that doesn't mean the propagandised American people will be completely unaware of and unaffected by daily losses of equipment and personnel.

    It will be more than sufficient to bring home the fact that they are in a war, and to fire up the existing political divisions, which is what matters. Then it's just a matter of time until it becomes clear nothing of any significance is being achieved - that comes a lot quicker these days than it used to, thanks to the internet.

    As for all that “bases, aircraft carriers” etc.
     
    I didn't write "aircraft carriers", I wrote "ships", and it appears you are in agreement with me because you yourself wrote "ships up to destroyer".

    In reality it appears we are not far apart on loss estimates, just on our assessment of the likely impact of those losses.

    Where we do part is in your assumption of the rosiest possible scenario with regard to protection of major assets - bases and capital ships. You, as advocates of war always do, assume that everything will work and therefore there will be no unpleasant surprises. That's understandable - you have to adopt that inherently dishonest position in order to push your war because if you were honest about the risks then people might start to ask if it is really worth it. In reality, the chances are that there are going to be mistakes and unexpected capabilities that will result in the other side "getting through". This idea of attacking Iran is something new for the US in modern times - an attack on a substantial enemy on its home turf. It's a lot bigger than just destroying an Iraqi expeditionary force, or invading an Iraq demoralised and reduced by years of isolation and sanctions.

    I don't say the Iranians will necessarily get a capital ship - in part it depends on how careful the Yanks are, and whether the Iranians get lucky, but I do think some bases are probably going to get heavily hit - bases don't move and the only thing protecting them is missile defences and counters working perfectly.

    Regardless, I think your cosy assessment about the US easily weathering - politically - the loss, say, of a couple of destroyers and a few other small ships in the initial fighting, along with ongoing aircraft losses, and probably with nothing to show for it, is most likely wrong. A couple of Arleigh Burkes, or one plus half a dozen mine countermeasures and other small ships, means up to 5-600 men lost. That, alone, is three times the number of US military men killed in the invasion of Iraq, and three times the number killed by enemy action in the 1990/91 war. And the more careful the US is about military losses, the less progress they will have to show for it after a few weeks of fighting.

    But as I said, it's nothing new that advocates of war seek to downplay the likely costs of their desired war - they always do that, and rely on the "rally behind the troops" effect to prevent their lies from catching up with them. Often, it works. In this particular case, though, I think the uncertainties are high, the visible gains likely all but non-existent (will even the jingoist US sphere legacy media be able to make enough people care that "progress has been made" in degrading Iranian forces, a couple of weeks or a month into the fighting, with no end in sight to the war, and no plausible way to end the war even suggested other than vague fantasies of "they'll have to give in eventually") and the collateral economic costs high.

    Iran is not alone anymore. Neither is Syria, Eastern Ukraine or even NK. Forget everything you know about “degrading” 3-rd world countries from the comfort of your armchair. Both Russia and China are losing their sense of humour. Red lines are everywhere and many of them have been crossed already. Make sure to thank the Tribe.

    “We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.”

    (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

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  188. Randal says:
    @QNA
    Yes, it's a big tent, with the usual entryist attempts by statist hand-wringers. AI is indeed a bunch of thots. Fortunately the many non-astroturf groups are consistently obstreperous in the conferences and calls so AI can't get away with their Blow Shit Up for Peace campaigns there. Whatever you want to do, you just do it and use the network to take it directly to other members and to the outside world in Geneva.

    The guy who founded ushrnetwork moved on himself, to focus on peace with an internationalist solidarity M.O. That's the second link.

    Don't confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you'll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.

    I detect some reflexive hostility in your word choice, like the sarcastic use of brilliant and advice in scare quotes. Do you have different organizing principles that you prefer? Surely you do not hope to vote your way to peace.

    Don’t confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you’ll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.

    This is flat out false.

    Antidiscrimination is inherently part of the ideology of identity politics. Discrimination is a basic and necessary tool of human interaction, and the pretence that it is harmful when applied to “special” categories of people is the foundation of modern identity politics.

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    You use the word discrimination in a general, vaguely perceptual, sense to make a uncontroversial statement, but then you get wrapped around the axle.

    In human rights law, discrimination is a term of art with a more specific meaning. It means denying rights to certain sorts of people. If you actually believe in rights, you know you can't do that, because if it isn't universal, it isn't a right.

    The foundation of modern identity politics is statist divide-and-rule.
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  189. QNA says:
    @Randal

    Don’t confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you’ll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.
     
    This is flat out false.

    Antidiscrimination is inherently part of the ideology of identity politics. Discrimination is a basic and necessary tool of human interaction, and the pretence that it is harmful when applied to "special" categories of people is the foundation of modern identity politics.

    You use the word discrimination in a general, vaguely perceptual, sense to make a uncontroversial statement, but then you get wrapped around the axle.

    In human rights law, discrimination is a term of art with a more specific meaning. It means denying rights to certain sorts of people. If you actually believe in rights, you know you can’t do that, because if it isn’t universal, it isn’t a right.

    The foundation of modern identity politics is statist divide-and-rule.

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    In human rights law, discrimination is a term of art with a more specific meaning. It means denying rights to certain sorts of people.
     
    No, it doesn't. It means denying "rights" to people (but in practice mostly only to people in specially protected groups or classes).

    There is no "right" to be respected.
    There is no "right" to be served in a shop.
    There is no "right" to be given a job.
    etc

    There is a right to, if you are an employer, choose for yourself whom to employ on whatever basis you like. There is a right, if you are a businessman, to choose with whom you do business on whatever basis you like. There is a right to choose whom you like and dislike, whom you respect and don't respect, on whatever basis you like.

    These rights are not necessarily respected in law in the countries of the US sphere (quite the contrary in most cases), but that just reflects that fact that these are not countries that respect rights, or even understand what they are. Rather, laws are passed on supposedly utilitarian grounds, but in reality on the grounds that suit the powerful groups and lobbies that influence the creation of laws. Like you, they mostly apply leftist and identity lobby dogmas to create manufactured "rights" that suit political ends.

    The foundation of modern identity politics is statist divide-and-rule.
     
    No, the foundation of modern identity politics is democracy and the "squeaky wheel" rule.
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  190. @QNA
    Yes, it's a big tent, with the usual entryist attempts by statist hand-wringers. AI is indeed a bunch of thots. Fortunately the many non-astroturf groups are consistently obstreperous in the conferences and calls so AI can't get away with their Blow Shit Up for Peace campaigns there. Whatever you want to do, you just do it and use the network to take it directly to other members and to the outside world in Geneva.

    The guy who founded ushrnetwork moved on himself, to focus on peace with an internationalist solidarity M.O. That's the second link.

    Don't confuse identity politics with antidiscrimination, or you'll throw out the baby with the bathwater. The former is a US state propaganda perversion of the latter.

    I detect some reflexive hostility in your word choice, like the sarcastic use of brilliant and advice in scare quotes. Do you have different organizing principles that you prefer? Surely you do not hope to vote your way to peace.

    Maybe Robin’s “reflexive hostility” is an announcement that she smells a communist. If she doesn’t mean that, let me state that I smell a communist. You are a communist, aren’t you? You may as well own up to it. There’s no need to be ashamed of what you are, is there?

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    Your bold challenge tickles my funny bone. It's as if some bejerkined wop flopped out of a time machine and denounced me as a Black Guelf.

    Do you know any communists? Where do they rule, nowadays? Are they still bent on world domination, or are they starting to get discouraged? I'd love to meet one, that would be a hoot.

    Human rights law is entirely agnostic on the question of state ownership of the means of production. You'll be happy to hear that, as human rights law is US state and federal common law and the supreme law of the land, in accord with the Supreme Court's the Paquete Habana decision. Are THEY communists? I thought they were just crooked assholes.

    No one cares how you organize your economy, as long as your UN member nation measures up. Problem is, your UN member nation doesn't cut it. Your kids get tertiary education at the cost of lifetime debt peonage. You have to pay to fix your teeth but you get useless sitting-duck F-35s for free. No one there's a commie, they're just poor downtrodden lumpenproles now.
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  191. Sean says:
    @Sean
    The explanation from Russia is that the nerve gas came from the British defence lab Porton Down which is not very far from where the poisoning took place. Unlike certain countries where people get drunk and cause nuclear power station catastrophes or almost start WW3 over Norwegian weather research (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident) we British are not going to accidently or deliberately poison or put in a coma our own Russian who spied for us against them and was swapped for Anna Chapman, not unless we never want anyone to work for us again, eh? Proof beyond reasonable doubt does not mean there is no chance of a mistake anyway, but it is much more likely than anything else that the Russian state did it on Putin's orders. Skripal was branded a 'traitor' and a 'bastard' on state TV in Russia, so them playing the innocent again won't work. Not again .

    August 15, 2008

    Leaders were once named after their most (in)famous acts. In the 10th century Ethelred, king of England, was called “the Unready” after he panicked at the prospect of Viking pirates coming to raid his shores; he was forever after known as “Ethelred the Redeless” — the king who was bereft of counsel in the face of barbarian attack.

    Well, here we are a thousand years later, and our vaunted leader-to-be Barry O is about as ready as Ethelred was in the year 1000 CE. Because we are still threatened by barbarians today. Check the headlines if you don’t believe it.

    Vladimir Putin should be known throughout the world as “Putin the Poisoner.” His signature act — the action that defined Putin’s character for all the world to see — was the radioactive poisoning of KGB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London, using polonium-210. The kicker is that you can’t just buy polonium-210 at your local chemical supply store. You can only get it if you have a nuclear weapons industry, because there you need it to start a nuclear chain reaction. It’s a super-tricky substance to control. Putin’s assassins left their traces all over London. Chemically, Po-210 is 250,000 times more toxic than hydrogen cyanide. But the Russians have always favored overkill.

    Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/08/barry_the_unready_and_putin_th.html#ixzz5AmQp7I5I

    Vlad the Impaler says he never impaled anyone, and cant understand why anyone disbelieving him

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    "Vladimir Putin should be known throughout the world as “Putin the Poisoner.” His signature act — the action that defined Putin’s character for all the world to see — was the radioactive poisoning of KGB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London, using polonium-210."
    -- Sean, do you have a single substantiated evidence for the above anti-Russian propaganda written by the intellectually dishonest Mr. Lewis in 2008? It does not take long to see his dishonesty.
    A sample (2014): James Lewis: "The major causes of the new world war can be found in oil-fueled hate propaganda sponsored by Gulf Arabs and Iran." - This is rich coming from a mouth of an American Jew.
    More: "Iran and Saudi Arabia ... have lost control of the wars they started thirty years ago. Muammar Gadhafi was overthrown." -- You see, according to Mr. Lewis, Clinton and her AIPAC friends have nothing to do with the death of Quaddaffi.
    More from the zioconish Lewsi: " What we know at this time is that massive aggression against our national security is now worldwide. We know with certainty the ideological origins of worldwide war -- and that it is not, repeat not our fault, contrary to liberal illusionists." -- Is Mr. Lewis really that stupid that he fails to learn about some 1000 American bases positioned around the globe?
    "According to a new poll from WIN and Gallup International, the U.S. represents the largest threat to world peace today. In their annual End of Year poll, researchers for WIN and Gallup International surveyed more than 66,000 people across 65 nations and found that 24 percent of all respondents answered that the United States “is the greatest threat to peace in the world today.” http://www.ibtimes.com/gallup-poll-biggest-threat-world-peace-america-1525008
    -- You see, facts have anti-Lewis bias. Mr. Lewis believes deeply that the US (similar to Mr. Lewis) is the most innocent and most defenseless entity in the world. Where did he has got this idea, one wonders... Anyway, facts are of no concern for Mr. James Lewis.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/09/the_awful_truth_the_world_is_at_war.html
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  192. @iffen
    What was your point?

    It's time for the U. S. to cut the apron strings with regard to S. Korea and Japan, not to mention the U. K.

    Yes, let’s stop subsidizing and entangling ourselves militarily with the Future Islamic Republics of Britain, Germany, and France, as well as the Koreas (which are inevitably part of China’s Dominant sphere if not eventually annexed by China).

    The USA ought to ally itself with the countries that have some realistic chance of preserving a semblance of our civilization and physically protecting a living space for our European peoples and working amicably with more compatible, more intelligent peoples:

    Russia

    Hopefully Poland, Hungary, Belarus, Ukraine

    any other Eastern European/Slavic or Balkan countries that reject the US/EU elite-supported Muslim/African invasion of the (semi)civilized world … This necessarily will mean countries that aren’t in the EU, or who have the sense to leave the EU before the mandatory Islamic and Retard wave drowns them too.

    Japan

    It’s a slim roster, to be sure.

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    Visegrad (certainly Poland, Hungary, and probably Czech the last with Jewish connections)
    is part of US network Conservative network. Have a look at the recent expulsions list of diplmats in Europe. And the countries who didnt.

    Most of the upper establishment is intermixed at some level.

    The Visegrad is not some saviour. Its just decent on immigration issues. Poland with some Catholic conservatives (but also pressure from neocons), and Hungary similar.

    Eastern/Central Europe is divided.

    So from all the mostly homogenous countries many of them are connected to US influence.
    Sure they arent Sjws, or Libs (though some factions are). They are resisting open borders.
    While siding with military complex, even WASP interests over some other Catholic nations.

    Again Poland establishment has no plans to leave EU. They love the money atm. So do the majority of Poles. With Neocon/American help they are getting "richer". Only if the Muslim/Leftist pressure grows
    than maybe they would leave in the future.

    Russia itself has many problems with crime, multicultarism, etc. So Europe is in tough case.
    The whole West is.
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  193. yes, a very unfortunate, dangerous development. however the works of Herve Ryssen may give us some insight on how we’ve reached this point

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  194. @jilles dykstra
    If any president wanted war, and lowered the USA standard of living, it was FDR.
    Charles A. Beard, ‘American Foreign Policy in the Making, 1932 – 1940, A study in responsibilities’, New Haven, 1946
    Peter H. Nicoll, ´Englands Krieg gegen Deutschland, Ursachen, Methoden und Folgen des Zweiten Weltkriegs’, 1963, 2001, Tübingen ( Britain’s Blunder, 1953)
    In the second book is how WWII lowered the USA standard of living calculated.
    Wars are expensive, not just in blood and misery.
    What Trump tries, I hope, is to get the USA out of the war madness.
    Not easy, as already Eisenhower warned in his farewell speech.

    If any president wanted war, and lowered the USA standard of living, it was FDR.

    Thank you for that excellent point.

    I believe Britain during the 30s was also undergoing a drop in the standard of living. If I remember correctly, Reed, in his “Controversy of Zion” made that point.

    In contrast, Germany, despite International Commie agitation and threats from all sides, the depression, the strangling effects of the Versailles Treaty and the declaration of war against and boycott of Germany by Jews, the standard of living was improving and apparently decent. Also the workers were treated much better in Germany than in the USSR (slave labor camps and all), Britain and the US.

    The three largest fascist states couldn’t have Germany empowering, or at least benefitting, the workers.

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    Part of what led to the calamity of the 30’s was the credit inflation of the 20’s, that was to a large degree motivated by Britain’s refusal to acknowledge that the pound had been permanently weakened by the rigors of WW1. As usual, the banksters’ tentacles left their mark at the crime scene.

    https://mises.org/library/monetary-breakdown-west
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  195. QNA says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Maybe Robin's "reflexive hostility" is an announcement that she smells a communist. If she doesn't mean that, let me state that I smell a communist. You are a communist, aren't you? You may as well own up to it. There's no need to be ashamed of what you are, is there?

    Your bold challenge tickles my funny bone. It’s as if some bejerkined wop flopped out of a time machine and denounced me as a Black Guelf.

    Do you know any communists? Where do they rule, nowadays? Are they still bent on world domination, or are they starting to get discouraged? I’d love to meet one, that would be a hoot.

    Human rights law is entirely agnostic on the question of state ownership of the means of production. You’ll be happy to hear that, as human rights law is US state and federal common law and the supreme law of the land, in accord with the Supreme Court’s the Paquete Habana decision. Are THEY communists? I thought they were just crooked assholes.

    No one cares how you organize your economy, as long as your UN member nation measures up. Problem is, your UN member nation doesn’t cut it. Your kids get tertiary education at the cost of lifetime debt peonage. You have to pay to fix your teeth but you get useless sitting-duck F-35s for free. No one there’s a commie, they’re just poor downtrodden lumpenproles now.

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    So....you're not a communist? The rest of your response must be to someone other than me. I never said anything about human rights law or economies. Apparently you're easily confused and can't be bothered to scroll up and reread before responding.

    You still sound like a commie to me. Since you didn't bother to deny it, I'll just go with my original impression of you.
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  196. @wayfarer

    Anybody else listen to the “March for our lives” children’s crusade today?
     
    "March For Our Lives – Join a Certified Kosher Movement.”
    “Help Us Create Gun Free Dead Zones!”

    source: (https://marchforourlives.com)
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQPIeJpWUAAbsNi.jpg

    .....
    .....

    In Stefan Molyneux’s conversation w/ Prof. Duchesne, the latter explained how “universal human rights” evolved to rationalize the notion that national rights are meaningless, but an immigrant to a land. legal, illegal, whatever, possessed “universal human rights,” therefore should be accepted as a citizen of the nation to which he/she migrated.

    http://www.unz.com/video/stefanmolyneux_the-fall-of-canada-prepare-yourself-accordingly/

    With that in mind, consider the meme repeated by the March for Our Lives non-marchers (it was not a march, more like a rally — or even a Hollywood stage play): “Automatic weapons [let's call them WMD] are weapons of war, used by military in war; ordinary citizens had no need for such weapons and should not be permitted to purchase them or use them.”

    This meme was reinforced in a cameo by several members of military who had seen action in Iraq, etc., who said they used those WMD in war (to defend American freedoms and values); they were not to be used by citizens.

    The Children’s Crusaders want to feel secure in their schools; “It is not okay that I am afraid to go to school. I have a right to feel safe and the government has an obligation to make me feel safe.” That is, feeling safe in school is a “human right.” A “universal human right.” Just like someone who sneaks across a border to enter USA has a “universal human right” to live in USA and be protected by USA taxpayers.

    One step further: If “human rights” are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere — Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass — have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.

    Yet the Children’s Crusaders actively advocated for members of US military to use WMD “over there,” but not over Here.


    In my daily descent into the purgatory of C Span Washington Journal, a white female who identified as a “baby boomer” who was politically activated by participating in Vietnam war demonstrations (on the side of Communists), said the “March for our lives” was just that same kind of event.

    I beg to differ. Most of the protests re Vietnam were in opposition to war.
    The March for Our Lives was the opposite: not only did those children express no concern with use of US taxpayer funded WMD when used to kill black, brown as well as whitefish people “over there,” they endorsed those uses; their only concern was that They be protected from them in their (((Boca Raton))) enclaves Over Here.

    These kids even registered outrage over the Florida proposal that all backpacks be transparent! ME? You want to inconvenience ME??

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    Duchesne doesn't know what he's talking about. He probably doesn't even know what instrument or article he's trying to refer to. Migrant rights have nothing to do with citizenship. You have the right to leave and return to your country. Period. You could look it up, even though he obviously never did (you know, he's Sorta Rican, he gets a break from affirmative action.)
    , @Cloak And Dagger

    If “human rights” are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere — Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass — have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.
     
    Irrefutable point S2C.

    Sometimes I put my hands over my ears to shut out the deafening din of manufactured events and afford myself a few scant moments of clarity and escape from the engulfing confusion, and can predict:

    There will be no war in North Korea.
    There will be no war in Iran (at first).

    But,

    There will be a massive war in Lebanon, which will spill over to Syria, instigated by the forces of evil in Israel, funded by our neocons and supported by the crypto-jews in KSA.

    Tel Aviv will go up in flames.
    The Israelis will try to flee to Europe and the US, but as you sow, so shall ye reap.

    Having stoked the anti-immigration flames in Europe by forcing hordes of refugees from Muslim countries to disrupt European cultures, very few Israelis will find refuge there (except perhaps in Germany and Sweden).

    So, they will come to our backyards, armed with dual citizenship, supported by the diaspora, and settle in our neighborhoods. With them, they will bring a culture of hatred, deceit, and all that is vile, and the Synagogue of Satan will take root in our troubled nation sowing the final seeds of our destruction.

    We are already a nation divided and pitted against each other. So few of us realize that this is a manufactured conflict. While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don't stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.

    , @wayfarer
    In my simple world, “universal human rights” have always been entitlements that needed to be earned.

    Yuma Arizona is a U.S.-Mexico border town, and that's where I live right now. Gun laws here are among the least-restrictive in the United States.

    Which is good because the ratio of police to citizens in Yuma is probably about 1:1000. And not too far from here in Tijuana Mexico the homicide rate is currently about 5 people being murdered each day.

    source: http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/01/09/tijuana-cartel-violence-sets-new-murder-record-2017/

    I gave up praying for safety, about a week after my first confession and holy communion. Always felt "god" had better things to do than spend his time watching out for me.

    Safety is my responsibility, at least that's the way I've always seen it.

    I live in a low-rent trailer park. Hidden in my old fifth-wheel, is an oak axe-handle, a machete, a WWII German K98 bayonet, a large folding knife, a semi-auto handgun with approx. 300 rounds of 9mm ammo, and 4 high-capacity magazines.

    If a stranger in the night enters uninvited, I'm considerate enough to ask questions first. Can't say that would be the case for other folks in this town, as they'd most likely shoot first and ask any necessary questions, later.

    , @anarchyst
    Your quote "I beg to differ. Most of the protests re Vietnam were in opposition to war." is incorrect. Having lived through those turbulent times (with a tour of duty in Vietnam), the protesters were only worried about one thing--saving their own skins from the military draft--nothing more. You see, when the draft was abolished, the protests stopped. There was absolutely no concern for the plight of the ordinary South Vietnamese citizen whose country was being invaded by the communists from the North. The commonly accepted history of the Vietnam war did not take into account the invasion of North Vietnamese troops, calling it a civil war, which it was NOT. You see, history is written by the victors--in this case the North Vietnamese and their communist-inspired "fellow travelers" (protesters and college-deferred types).
    Even present-day "uber-patriot" Ted Nugent got in on the act, defecating on himself and not washing for a month before reporting to his draft board, while stating that "Vietnam was not his war". Of course, he was sent home...
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  197. Sean says:
    @KA
    Just one man ? Just this guy McMaster was standing between Iran and USA? In that case , a coup has already taken place . The coup master must be embedded,active,and always bidding for the perfect dispensable man to do their bidding . By dispensable, I mean the death of person like Litiivenko and the double agent in Salisbury on 3 rd March . Bolton should be careful for his own life . Once the job is done the coup club will throw him under the bus blame NK or China or Russia and plan war again, using another stupid careerist corrupt ambitious dog . May God help Bolton .

    MacMaster wanted to accept the deal with Iran, but get tough with Russia. In reality the US would only ever be shadow boxing with Russia, which is too dangerous to take any kind of military action against of course. They like to have the reputation of being a Hawk, but no one actually contemplated anything beyond words with Russia/ A reputation as a Hawks in relation to Russia (and North Korea) means nothing. Nobody in the Beltway is fooled by the rhetoric. There is a reason the early Cold War nuclear bazooka was quickly phased out and nothing like it exists now. Iran is different, the Hawks on Iran are intent on destroying it.

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  198. @jacques sheete

    If any president wanted war, and lowered the USA standard of living, it was FDR.
     
    Thank you for that excellent point.

    I believe Britain during the 30s was also undergoing a drop in the standard of living. If I remember correctly, Reed, in his "Controversy of Zion" made that point.

    In contrast, Germany, despite International Commie agitation and threats from all sides, the depression, the strangling effects of the Versailles Treaty and the declaration of war against and boycott of Germany by Jews, the standard of living was improving and apparently decent. Also the workers were treated much better in Germany than in the USSR (slave labor camps and all), Britain and the US.

    The three largest fascist states couldn't have Germany empowering, or at least benefitting, the workers.

    Part of what led to the calamity of the 30’s was the credit inflation of the 20’s, that was to a large degree motivated by Britain’s refusal to acknowledge that the pound had been permanently weakened by the rigors of WW1. As usual, the banksters’ tentacles left their mark at the crime scene.

    https://mises.org/library/monetary-breakdown-west

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    Part of what led to the calamity of the 30’s was the credit inflation of the 20’s...
     
    I'm confident that credit manipulation as well as commodity, futures and stock market manipulation are all engineered. Cui bono? I think you and I know.

    First, inflate credit, then pull the slop tray away, things crash and the money boys buy up what they want for pennies on the dollar. It's a simple, but slick trick that seems to always work.


    …we were laboring under a dropsical fulness of circulating medium. nearly all of it is now called in by the banks who have the regulation of the safety valves of our fortunes and who condense or explode them at their will. lands in this state cannot now be sold for a year’s rent:

    -Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 7 November 1819

    http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/founders/default.xqy?keys=FOEA-search-1-1&expandNote=on#match1
     

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  199. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    Definitely more than either of Iraq conflicts, but, and that’s only what matters, below the threshold for a serious internal pressure. A lot of talk, oh yes. But not a real pressure on the Administration.
    That Las Vegas shooting. Anyone talking about that? How did it last?
     
    Looks like we are probably in broad agreement on casualty levels, just not on the political impact. Certainly we are not in the world of a conscript army suffering mass infantry casualties, as in Vietnam or in Korea, but that doesn't mean the propagandised American people will be completely unaware of and unaffected by daily losses of equipment and personnel.

    It will be more than sufficient to bring home the fact that they are in a war, and to fire up the existing political divisions, which is what matters. Then it's just a matter of time until it becomes clear nothing of any significance is being achieved - that comes a lot quicker these days than it used to, thanks to the internet.

    As for all that “bases, aircraft carriers” etc.
     
    I didn't write "aircraft carriers", I wrote "ships", and it appears you are in agreement with me because you yourself wrote "ships up to destroyer".

    In reality it appears we are not far apart on loss estimates, just on our assessment of the likely impact of those losses.

    Where we do part is in your assumption of the rosiest possible scenario with regard to protection of major assets - bases and capital ships. You, as advocates of war always do, assume that everything will work and therefore there will be no unpleasant surprises. That's understandable - you have to adopt that inherently dishonest position in order to push your war because if you were honest about the risks then people might start to ask if it is really worth it. In reality, the chances are that there are going to be mistakes and unexpected capabilities that will result in the other side "getting through". This idea of attacking Iran is something new for the US in modern times - an attack on a substantial enemy on its home turf. It's a lot bigger than just destroying an Iraqi expeditionary force, or invading an Iraq demoralised and reduced by years of isolation and sanctions.

    I don't say the Iranians will necessarily get a capital ship - in part it depends on how careful the Yanks are, and whether the Iranians get lucky, but I do think some bases are probably going to get heavily hit - bases don't move and the only thing protecting them is missile defences and counters working perfectly.

    Regardless, I think your cosy assessment about the US easily weathering - politically - the loss, say, of a couple of destroyers and a few other small ships in the initial fighting, along with ongoing aircraft losses, and probably with nothing to show for it, is most likely wrong. A couple of Arleigh Burkes, or one plus half a dozen mine countermeasures and other small ships, means up to 5-600 men lost. That, alone, is three times the number of US military men killed in the invasion of Iraq, and three times the number killed by enemy action in the 1990/91 war. And the more careful the US is about military losses, the less progress they will have to show for it after a few weeks of fighting.

    But as I said, it's nothing new that advocates of war seek to downplay the likely costs of their desired war - they always do that, and rely on the "rally behind the troops" effect to prevent their lies from catching up with them. Often, it works. In this particular case, though, I think the uncertainties are high, the visible gains likely all but non-existent (will even the jingoist US sphere legacy media be able to make enough people care that "progress has been made" in degrading Iranian forces, a couple of weeks or a month into the fighting, with no end in sight to the war, and no plausible way to end the war even suggested other than vague fantasies of "they'll have to give in eventually") and the collateral economic costs high.

    Then it’s just a matter of time until it becomes clear nothing of any significance is being achieved – that comes a lot quicker these days than it used to, thanks to the internet.

    That works both ways. Managing public I mean.
    What is being achieved anywhere as far as that public is concerned and there are casualties?
    In this case the only what will matter is:” we are preventing the collapse of the oil trade”. Accepting death/mutilation (never shown up, just read about) of dozens of US military personnel daily will not, IMHO, create any problem for the Administration. On the contrary.

    …it appears you are in agreement with me because you yourself wrote “ships up to destroyer”.

    Correct. Carrier loss always comes up on this webzine when this topic is concerned. And, when I say “loss”, remember Sheffield. Or Cole. It would be like that. Won’t create any issue.

    …..you have to adopt that inherently dishonest position in order to push your war ….

    Haha…this is very good.
    If a British gentleman can write something like that what can one expect from the rest of the crew here. Even you can’t accept that I am trying to put some cold facts here in a sea of wishful groupthink in an echo chamber. No prob. More to come.

    It’s a lot bigger than just destroying an Iraqi expeditionary force, or invading an Iraq demoralised and reduced by years of isolation and sanctions.

    It is bigger. My point is not so big to create serious domestic problems for Administration.

    Regardless, I think your cosy assessment about the US easily weathering – politically – the loss, say, of a couple of destroyers and a few other small ships in the initial fighting, along with ongoing aircraft losses, and probably with nothing to show for it, is most likely wrong. A couple of Arleigh Burkes, or one plus half a dozen mine countermeasures and other small ships, means up to 5-600 men lost.

    Wrong.
    You take ship loss with all hands. No. Ship loss as sunk, burnt down, but, with say, 60-70 men lost. Same for sweepers etc. Altogether around less than 1000. Remember Falklands?
    Bottom line, shall not affect the Administration in a negative way.

    But as I said, it’s nothing new that advocates of war seek to downplay the likely costs of their desired war – they always do that, and rely on the “rally behind the troops” effect to prevent their lies from catching up with them. Often, it works.

    Yes and it does.
    It will this time too.
    Just keep “no oil-economy collapse” mantra high and up.
    At least for three months.
    Three………..months………only.
    After that could be “end of major hostilities, pulling out, peace negotiations, blah…blah…”.
    Sounds familiar?

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    After that could be “end of major hostilities, pulling out, peace negotiations, blah…blah…”.
    Sounds familiar?

    Like the negotiations going on in NK ?
    No , no negotiation but an armistice One hopes Iranian remember and do what needs to be done same day the war breaks out and 100 years after and all the time in between . Destruction should be served to US in more than one format . Don't cry "terrorism " or blame " 7th century ideology "
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  200. @Sin City Milla
    I'm all for being mollified. I couldn't care less what goes on behind closed doors as long as they bring the tariffs on! Whatever his IQ Trump has finally done what no other Pres in generations had the sense to do. The rest could not spell IQ.

    How many factories do you expect will be built and staffed as a result of those tariffs?

    Goldman (“Spengler) addressed the wariness of investors to take on development of significant physical facilities in USA (preferring, instead, less capital-intensive software innovations) because Chinese and other emerging third world labor would still be cheaper; China can still build it cheaper.

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    To the question:

    How many factories do you expect will be built and staffed as a result of those tariffs?
     
    Not any… authentic factories, (might be some Potemkin ruses though).
    The time for tariffs was long past, before the hundreds of plants and factories in US were crated up to rail roads to ships to offshore.
    What was a good idea once but not now. In fact it might be an example of senility and Cognitive Dissonance.
    The result of tariffs at this late stage is probably to sweep up remaining US small fry fabricators who depend on the steel now available. (more corporate consolidation IOW's.) Increased imports of Ersatz replacement junk to complete uS dependency and loss of any self sufficiency for the eventual final solution.
    What happens When the shoddy goods that replaced quality all fail simultaneously, no way to replace, then what?

    THanks for the interesting lecture on China and real issues. Sure brings up the level of the thread!
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  201. QNA says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    In Stefan Molyneux's conversation w/ Prof. Duchesne, the latter explained how "universal human rights" evolved to rationalize the notion that national rights are meaningless, but an immigrant to a land. legal, illegal, whatever, possessed "universal human rights," therefore should be accepted as a citizen of the nation to which he/she migrated.

    http://www.unz.com/video/stefanmolyneux_the-fall-of-canada-prepare-yourself-accordingly/

    With that in mind, consider the meme repeated by the March for Our Lives non-marchers (it was not a march, more like a rally -- or even a Hollywood stage play): "Automatic weapons [let's call them WMD] are weapons of war, used by military in war; ordinary citizens had no need for such weapons and should not be permitted to purchase them or use them."

    This meme was reinforced in a cameo by several members of military who had seen action in Iraq, etc., who said they used those WMD in war (to defend American freedoms and values); they were not to be used by citizens.

    The Children's Crusaders want to feel secure in their schools; "It is not okay that I am afraid to go to school. I have a right to feel safe and the government has an obligation to make me feel safe." That is, feeling safe in school is a "human right." A "universal human right." Just like someone who sneaks across a border to enter USA has a "universal human right" to live in USA and be protected by USA taxpayers.

    One step further: If "human rights" are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere -- Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass -- have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.

    Yet the Children's Crusaders actively advocated for members of US military to use WMD "over there," but not over Here.

    --
    In my daily descent into the purgatory of C Span Washington Journal, a white female who identified as a "baby boomer" who was politically activated by participating in Vietnam war demonstrations (on the side of Communists), said the "March for our lives" was just that same kind of event.

    I beg to differ. Most of the protests re Vietnam were in opposition to war.
    The March for Our Lives was the opposite: not only did those children express no concern with use of US taxpayer funded WMD when used to kill black, brown as well as whitefish people "over there," they endorsed those uses; their only concern was that They be protected from them in their (((Boca Raton))) enclaves Over Here.

    These kids even registered outrage over the Florida proposal that all backpacks be transparent! ME? You want to inconvenience ME??

    Duchesne doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He probably doesn’t even know what instrument or article he’s trying to refer to. Migrant rights have nothing to do with citizenship. You have the right to leave and return to your country. Period. You could look it up, even though he obviously never did (you know, he’s Sorta Rican, he gets a break from affirmative action.)

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  202. RobinG says:
    @Joe Levantine
    I am glad you asked for my plan, even though I admit that there no one size fits all.
    First, extreme decentralisation.
    Second, electing rulers who should assume direct responsibility for their deeds without being able to hide behind the intricacies of a system of checks and balances.
    Third, Direct democracy by people voting on any issue of major importance especially wars, defence spending and taxes.
    Forth, an education system that frees the individual's mind from all the methodical programming that we are subjected to at schools and universities. More of an education system that emphasises unhindered creativity, frankness, freedom of speech without the shackles of political correctness, and ethical behaviour.
    In short, small, accountable government that leaves the people to assume responsibility for their deeds or actions without exentricities such as R2P or social engineering and the rest of the so called modern day liberal bullshit.
    Jacques Sheet is one commentator who can see beyond the majority of most Westerners; he sensed that American democracy was fatally wounded when the Federal government defeated the Southern cessation movement by brute force.
    If you have a solution please state it. If you don't, continue casting your ballots for the next layer of governmental fraudsters in our great representative democracy.

    Hey Joe,

    Thanks for trying to answer, but those are goals…(your #164 also)…. that is not a plan, so let me state the queston again. How do you propose to achieve those goals?

    Street marches? (Those kids got impressive turnout yesterday … let’s see what comes of it. There were big marches in 2003, but Bush/Cheney still attacked Iraq.)
    “Civil society orgs” like QNA believes?
    Violent rebellion? You scorn voting. So, are you going to overthrow the govt.? How will you do it? (This question has probably triggered the NSA bot, LOL.)

    My guess, since you (and JS also) did not seem to understand the question, your “plan” is to keep complaining in comments sections. That’s harmless.

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    I think your question is perfectly legitimate.
    Street marches might put some pressure on the establishment but it will fail to do any real change.
    Here one should consider a holistic approach to defiance, starting with civil desobedience all the way to outright confrontation. As a non American, I cannot preach about the right course to take but I do believe that smart resistance does not entail a major shoutout with the many layers of state security. However, I would only confirm that trying to change the system from within will get you nowhere.
    What I would preach to start making a dent in the matrix of control is to advocate the following:
    - to totally refrain from resorting to credit financing which would deprive the banksters from a major income and thereby impede the effect of Wall Street influence on elections.
    -to revive community living by shutting off the idiocy box and mingling with your neighbours in a real buildup of neighbourly solidarity and true social living.
    - to totally turn a deaf ear to the corporate media.
    - to refuse to engage in any armed conflict that does not entail the defence of America from an imminent threat. Here, I can state that one of my favourite heroes is the late boxing champion Mohamed Ali who flatly refused to serve in Vietnam.
    -to revive the labour unions as a an effective political force that could promote representatives who are totally dedicated to the well being of the working class and who can face up to the destructive practices of big business that is hollowing out America's industrial capacity.
    -to force the American government to heed the taxpayer's priorities by asking each citizen to allocate how he or she would like to have their tax dollar spent among the major spending programs.
    -to connect with your immediate neighbors about creating an alternative home schooling to keep control of education of children away from the programming of the a Department of Education.
    - to impose the people's power by simply refusing to obey the diktats of the establishment especially when the government intrudes on what should be the family domain such as vaccination, political correctness etc...
    These are not all comprehensive ideas, but a few tips that should stir the mind of a true rebel to look for alternatives for the self destructing path of ever bigger defence and welfare spending.
    Overall, America needs leaders who are willing to put their lives on the line in pursuit of real reforms unhindered by the police state. A tall order for sure but not an impossible one. The alternative would be a long term decay that will result in economic collapse followed by a dictatorship akin to what happens in most empires after the point on implosion.
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  203. Well, as many here have ridiculed the delusional Trump hopefuls that their dear leader was a 3D chess player, I have to confess that I was in the ranks of the delusional who held out hope for Trump being a diabolical chess player who was quietly draining the swamp with masterful application of the Art of the Deal. To my sorrow, that delusion ended in a disappointing clatter with the appointment of Walrus Bolton a few days ago. This is the ultimate act of betrayal from those of us who had believed that MAGA was not just campaign rhetoric and were willing to turn a blind eye to all that transpired since he was elected, believing that these were all deeper machinations towards the greater good of restoring this republic.

    Sadly, childhood always ends. I turned off the lights and locked the door behind me.

    But, once we stop believing in Santa and the Tooth Fairy, delusion is replaced by wisdom. Regardless of being a disappointment, Trump has shown that we, the people, do have the power to thwart the desires of the deep state and elect the unelectable. We have shown that Jewish power is not invincible and that next time, if we can find the right person, we do have the power to be king makers.

    In the past, my champion was Ron Paul. Unfortunately, despite the honesty and purity of that great man, he was found wanting in his ability to coalesce this diverse nation into a unified voice. The Jewish media was able to make mincemeat of his proposals and divide the people successfully and fool them into thinking that somehow his domestic policies, something that a POTUS has little control over, took precedence over this foreign policy, ignoring that foreign policy shapes domestic policy. Ron continues to be a voice of reason, and his evangelism of key Libertarian principles may yet help, but he is no longer the one who will lead us to victory.

    Who then?

    Maybe Rand Paul, with all his many failings and the mandatory expression of fealty to Israel, could be the man to watch. It is hard not to become jaded as decades of betrayal take their toll on our faith and increases our cynicism, but without faith there is no hope, and without hope there is no resistance to the forces of darkness. This from an atheist. Go figure!

    No one else comes to mind, unless a new Messiah rises in the next few years.

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    I was just going to push my agree button...but I'm still holding out a thread of hope, however thin it might be. (Grin)

    PS. Yeah Rand Paul, maybe he got a stronger pair since he got flattened by his nutty neighbor.
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  204. @SolontoCroesus
    In Stefan Molyneux's conversation w/ Prof. Duchesne, the latter explained how "universal human rights" evolved to rationalize the notion that national rights are meaningless, but an immigrant to a land. legal, illegal, whatever, possessed "universal human rights," therefore should be accepted as a citizen of the nation to which he/she migrated.

    http://www.unz.com/video/stefanmolyneux_the-fall-of-canada-prepare-yourself-accordingly/

    With that in mind, consider the meme repeated by the March for Our Lives non-marchers (it was not a march, more like a rally -- or even a Hollywood stage play): "Automatic weapons [let's call them WMD] are weapons of war, used by military in war; ordinary citizens had no need for such weapons and should not be permitted to purchase them or use them."

    This meme was reinforced in a cameo by several members of military who had seen action in Iraq, etc., who said they used those WMD in war (to defend American freedoms and values); they were not to be used by citizens.

    The Children's Crusaders want to feel secure in their schools; "It is not okay that I am afraid to go to school. I have a right to feel safe and the government has an obligation to make me feel safe." That is, feeling safe in school is a "human right." A "universal human right." Just like someone who sneaks across a border to enter USA has a "universal human right" to live in USA and be protected by USA taxpayers.

    One step further: If "human rights" are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere -- Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass -- have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.

    Yet the Children's Crusaders actively advocated for members of US military to use WMD "over there," but not over Here.

    --
    In my daily descent into the purgatory of C Span Washington Journal, a white female who identified as a "baby boomer" who was politically activated by participating in Vietnam war demonstrations (on the side of Communists), said the "March for our lives" was just that same kind of event.

    I beg to differ. Most of the protests re Vietnam were in opposition to war.
    The March for Our Lives was the opposite: not only did those children express no concern with use of US taxpayer funded WMD when used to kill black, brown as well as whitefish people "over there," they endorsed those uses; their only concern was that They be protected from them in their (((Boca Raton))) enclaves Over Here.

    These kids even registered outrage over the Florida proposal that all backpacks be transparent! ME? You want to inconvenience ME??

    If “human rights” are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere — Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass — have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.

    Irrefutable point S2C.

    Sometimes I put my hands over my ears to shut out the deafening din of manufactured events and afford myself a few scant moments of clarity and escape from the engulfing confusion, and can predict:

    There will be no war in North Korea.
    There will be no war in Iran (at first).

    But,

    There will be a massive war in Lebanon, which will spill over to Syria, instigated by the forces of evil in Israel, funded by our neocons and supported by the crypto-jews in KSA.

    Tel Aviv will go up in flames.
    The Israelis will try to flee to Europe and the US, but as you sow, so shall ye reap.

    Having stoked the anti-immigration flames in Europe by forcing hordes of refugees from Muslim countries to disrupt European cultures, very few Israelis will find refuge there (except perhaps in Germany and Sweden).

    So, they will come to our backyards, armed with dual citizenship, supported by the diaspora, and settle in our neighborhoods. With them, they will bring a culture of hatred, deceit, and all that is vile, and the Synagogue of Satan will take root in our troubled nation sowing the final seeds of our destruction.

    We are already a nation divided and pitted against each other. So few of us realize that this is a manufactured conflict. While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don’t stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.

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    You're talking like Taxi, lol. Too bad Ron only sent a video to Orindo. Check out #204 f0r SpringAction. What do you make of QNA posts?
    , @jacques sheete

    While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don’t stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.
     
    Nice, succinct summary.
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  205. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Men are welcome. So are ideas.
     
    My idea is that the Oct March should be rebranded to:

    Americans Rise Together for Peace, October 20-21, 2018

    American Peace March on the Pentagon
     

    Just as there were marches organized to protest the looming invasion of Iraq, the American people should participate in marches to protest against the looming attacks on Iran.

    It won’t be rebranded, and for good reason. I’ve said this before, but in case you missed it (or couldn’t process it) the title Women’s March on the Pentagon is a direct rejoinder to the Pussy Warriors who refused to include anti-war concerns.

    As for what “American people should participate in,” how kind of you to say. You’re a good researcher, Geo, but you’ve made it clear that you’ll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else. Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.

    The same activists are struggling to reignite a peace movement. Their position is pitifully reactionary. Countering Bolton’s appointment is the latest scramble, but the first days of action were already in the pipeline:
    April 14-15, nationally coordinated regional mobilizations to challenge the war makers.

    http://www.springaction2018.org/

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    You’re a good researcher, Geo, but you’ve made it clear that you’ll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else.
     
    I guess you inferred this from the fact that I flew almost 500 miles to participate in the tedious work of organizing for LFTL, right?

    Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.
     
    I have no clue where you get this “stuff” from.

    Look, you said you were open to ideas, so I proffered one. You don’t like it, that’s fine. You can take it or leave it.
    , @jacques sheete

    It won’t be rebranded, and for good reason. I’ve said this before, but in case you missed it (or couldn’t process it) ...
     
    You may want to ditch the smarm and sit back and listen. It's evident to all but you that geocat62 knows more than you ever will and can "process" it far faster than you could ever hope to.

    You smart mouths just don't know when to pipe down, do you?
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  206. QNA says:
    @RobinG
    What makes you think I have a plan? I'm just looking for anything effective.

    Joe L. and the coterie that decry voting don't have a plan, is the point. Complain, but suggest nothing. NOT voting is for even bigger suckers. Disengage, so the system rolls on without them.

    Then QNA jumps in about "civil society organizations." Sound like Soros color revolution ops, don't they? As if the US gov't. gives a shit about "international pressure." US gov't. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.

    QNA's orgs are okay, so keep trying. But at least realize that the point of those orgs is to build pressure on the gov't. that exists. They're not calling for violent revolution.

    ‘As if the US gov’t. gives a shit about “international pressure.” US gov’t. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.’

    Spoken like a woman who’s never seen what goes on in Geneva. Who’s never seen her government babble and cringe and make fools of themselves in front of their victims with the whole world looking on. Who’s never noticed the government scrambling to propitiate the treaty parties who make their binding law. Here, do yourself a favor, get past facile leftist defeatism:

    http://www.treatybodywebcast.org/

    ‘They’re not calling for violent revolution.’

    Spoken like an FBI provocateur. The Soviet bloc was destroyed quite peacefully. That is how the USA will go. Black Alliance for Peace is in fact looking ahead to the end of the USA. The USA has broken the cardinal rule: don’t piss off people who know how to knock over a regime. (and that doesn’t mean Soros, they’re dilettantes with no grasp of revolution in practice.) That’s the reason for this xenophobic propaganda panic.

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    Are you one of those BAP//UNAC types who refuse to cooperate with anti-war conservatives, who won't attend a conference if Libertarians are included? What will you do with them when YOUR tyranny rules the democracy? Maybe you ARE a Bolshevik.
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  207. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG
    It won't be rebranded, and for good reason. I've said this before, but in case you missed it (or couldn't process it) the title Women's March on the Pentagon is a direct rejoinder to the Pussy Warriors who refused to include anti-war concerns.

    As for what "American people should participate in," how kind of you to say. You're a good researcher, Geo, but you've made it clear that you'll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else. Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.

    The same activists are struggling to reignite a peace movement. Their position is pitifully reactionary. Countering Bolton's appointment is the latest scramble, but the first days of action were already in the pipeline:
    April 14-15, nationally coordinated regional mobilizations to challenge the war makers.
    http://www.springaction2018.org/

    You’re a good researcher, Geo, but you’ve made it clear that you’ll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else.

    I guess you inferred this from the fact that I flew almost 500 miles to participate in the tedious work of organizing for LFTL, right?

    Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.

    I have no clue where you get this “stuff” from.

    Look, you said you were open to ideas, so I proffered one. You don’t like it, that’s fine. You can take it or leave it.

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    Yes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larggKpTCsw
    Are we preparing for a full blown war with Iran?
    Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson
    , @SolontoCroesus
    1. I couldn't organize a sock drawer.

    2. Iirc I said If Cindy McKinney went South, Pat Lang would go North. I believe that to be reality. A few days ago Lang commented about his deep disdain for Larry Wilkerson: he said Wilkerson knew full well his boss, Colin Powell, was being set up but he did nothing to interrupt the process. Thus, it's not likely Lang would participate with Wilkerson in an anti war event.

    3. I recall that geokat62 composed a Declaration of Independence from the Lobby. It might be a good idea to put that on the table again for this body of commenters to see, think about, spread around.

    4. I admire and have supported Alison Weir's method and persistence (and believe them to be more effective than street protest):
    a. Put together a solid body of information, i.e. a book like "Against Our Better Judgment," then
    b. speak about the book at every conceivable opportunity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_5iOYsHFQ

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  208. RobinG says:
    @QNA
    'As if the US gov’t. gives a shit about “international pressure.” US gov’t. owns those piddling Geneva NGOs. And owns Geneva. Anyone who pipes up gets his legs cut out from under him.'

    Spoken like a woman who's never seen what goes on in Geneva. Who's never seen her government babble and cringe and make fools of themselves in front of their victims with the whole world looking on. Who's never noticed the government scrambling to propitiate the treaty parties who make their binding law. Here, do yourself a favor, get past facile leftist defeatism:

    http://www.treatybodywebcast.org/

    'They’re not calling for violent revolution.'

    Spoken like an FBI provocateur. The Soviet bloc was destroyed quite peacefully. That is how the USA will go. Black Alliance for Peace is in fact looking ahead to the end of the USA. The USA has broken the cardinal rule: don't piss off people who know how to knock over a regime. (and that doesn't mean Soros, they're dilettantes with no grasp of revolution in practice.) That's the reason for this xenophobic propaganda panic.

    Are you one of those BAP//UNAC types who refuse to cooperate with anti-war conservatives, who won’t attend a conference if Libertarians are included? What will you do with them when YOUR tyranny rules the democracy? Maybe you ARE a Bolshevik.

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    This touchy preoccupation with the 1-dimensional left/right, conservative/liberal spectrum seems somewhat strange. Antiwar people are off on an orthogonal axis and indifferent to the official US government typology, since they are the true political enemies of the state. Anybody who can identify as conservative or liberal has fallen to some extent under the influence of controlled opposition. The only real conflict is the humans against this overreaching state. Everything else is COINTELPRO squabbling.

    You never know who can help. Some people associate with the ultras who find themselves in the US Gestapo. Some might label them conservatives. The government labels them insider threats. Everyone's disgusted with this government. That's the thing we always have in common.
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  209. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    If “human rights” are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere — Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass — have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.
     
    Irrefutable point S2C.

    Sometimes I put my hands over my ears to shut out the deafening din of manufactured events and afford myself a few scant moments of clarity and escape from the engulfing confusion, and can predict:

    There will be no war in North Korea.
    There will be no war in Iran (at first).

    But,

    There will be a massive war in Lebanon, which will spill over to Syria, instigated by the forces of evil in Israel, funded by our neocons and supported by the crypto-jews in KSA.

    Tel Aviv will go up in flames.
    The Israelis will try to flee to Europe and the US, but as you sow, so shall ye reap.

    Having stoked the anti-immigration flames in Europe by forcing hordes of refugees from Muslim countries to disrupt European cultures, very few Israelis will find refuge there (except perhaps in Germany and Sweden).

    So, they will come to our backyards, armed with dual citizenship, supported by the diaspora, and settle in our neighborhoods. With them, they will bring a culture of hatred, deceit, and all that is vile, and the Synagogue of Satan will take root in our troubled nation sowing the final seeds of our destruction.

    We are already a nation divided and pitted against each other. So few of us realize that this is a manufactured conflict. While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don't stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.

    You’re talking like Taxi, lol. Too bad Ron only sent a video to Orindo. Check out #204 f0r SpringAction. What do you make of QNA posts?

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    You’re talking like Taxi, lol.
     
    No surprise there - she is one smart lady, and being an American expat in the Levant, has a great eagle perch on that part of the world with unfiltered news. Funny you should mention her - I recently posted something on her site after a long while:

    https://platosguns.com/2018/03/15/say-goodbye-to-america-as-we-know-it/#comment-22427


    Check out #204 f0r SpringAction
     
    More power to them for doing something! I think I will show up at Lake Merritt on April 15.

    What do you make of QNA posts?
     

    I haven't read enough of him/her to form a hard opinion - he/she only has a total of 8 posts on this site. There is a whiff of trolling, but as I said, too few samples to reach a conclusion. I am sure we will know in a few weeks if he/she continues to post here. We have recently seen a plethora of personalities that all ended up being from the same source. You can usually tell by whom they attack.
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  210. @Beefcake the Mighty
    Part of what led to the calamity of the 30’s was the credit inflation of the 20’s, that was to a large degree motivated by Britain’s refusal to acknowledge that the pound had been permanently weakened by the rigors of WW1. As usual, the banksters’ tentacles left their mark at the crime scene.

    https://mises.org/library/monetary-breakdown-west

    Part of what led to the calamity of the 30’s was the credit inflation of the 20’s…

    I’m confident that credit manipulation as well as commodity, futures and stock market manipulation are all engineered. Cui bono? I think you and I know.

    First, inflate credit, then pull the slop tray away, things crash and the money boys buy up what they want for pennies on the dollar. It’s a simple, but slick trick that seems to always work.

    …we were laboring under a dropsical fulness of circulating medium. nearly all of it is now called in by the banks who have the regulation of the safety valves of our fortunes and who condense or explode them at their will. lands in this state cannot now be sold for a year’s rent:

    -Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 7 November 1819

    http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/founders/default.xqy?keys=FOEA-search-1-1&expandNote=on#match1

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  211. @RobinG
    It won't be rebranded, and for good reason. I've said this before, but in case you missed it (or couldn't process it) the title Women's March on the Pentagon is a direct rejoinder to the Pussy Warriors who refused to include anti-war concerns.

    As for what "American people should participate in," how kind of you to say. You're a good researcher, Geo, but you've made it clear that you'll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else. Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.

    The same activists are struggling to reignite a peace movement. Their position is pitifully reactionary. Countering Bolton's appointment is the latest scramble, but the first days of action were already in the pipeline:
    April 14-15, nationally coordinated regional mobilizations to challenge the war makers.
    http://www.springaction2018.org/

    It won’t be rebranded, and for good reason. I’ve said this before, but in case you missed it (or couldn’t process it) …

    You may want to ditch the smarm and sit back and listen. It’s evident to all but you that geocat62 knows more than you ever will and can “process” it far faster than you could ever hope to.

    You smart mouths just don’t know when to pipe down, do you?

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  212. @Cloak And Dagger

    If “human rights” are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere — Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass — have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.
     
    Irrefutable point S2C.

    Sometimes I put my hands over my ears to shut out the deafening din of manufactured events and afford myself a few scant moments of clarity and escape from the engulfing confusion, and can predict:

    There will be no war in North Korea.
    There will be no war in Iran (at first).

    But,

    There will be a massive war in Lebanon, which will spill over to Syria, instigated by the forces of evil in Israel, funded by our neocons and supported by the crypto-jews in KSA.

    Tel Aviv will go up in flames.
    The Israelis will try to flee to Europe and the US, but as you sow, so shall ye reap.

    Having stoked the anti-immigration flames in Europe by forcing hordes of refugees from Muslim countries to disrupt European cultures, very few Israelis will find refuge there (except perhaps in Germany and Sweden).

    So, they will come to our backyards, armed with dual citizenship, supported by the diaspora, and settle in our neighborhoods. With them, they will bring a culture of hatred, deceit, and all that is vile, and the Synagogue of Satan will take root in our troubled nation sowing the final seeds of our destruction.

    We are already a nation divided and pitted against each other. So few of us realize that this is a manufactured conflict. While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don't stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.

    While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don’t stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.

    Nice, succinct summary.

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    Thanks JS, George, and Chuck!
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  213. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    You’re a good researcher, Geo, but you’ve made it clear that you’ll leave the tedious work of organizing, trying to build coalitions of disparate parties, to someone else.
     
    I guess you inferred this from the fact that I flew almost 500 miles to participate in the tedious work of organizing for LFTL, right?

    Then you and S2 can criticize the tangential agendas of the participants. You reminisce about 2003, but most of those protesters, other than opposing the war, were not your political soulmates.
     
    I have no clue where you get this “stuff” from.

    Look, you said you were open to ideas, so I proffered one. You don’t like it, that’s fine. You can take it or leave it.

    Yes.

    Are we preparing for a full blown war with Iran?
    Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson

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    Good video.

    One thing, though.
    The Col. said something like "...invest Iran for 10 years to prevent nuclear capability".
    Didn't get that.

    I'd go for "Yugoslavia" scenario first: that "round the clock" capability the Col. did mention to hammer the regime in Tehran into submission. Maybe with stirring some internal things, incursions etc.
    If Hormuz is threatened escalate. That escalate could go into limited invasion to control that coast there.
    All could be accomplished in 3 months I guess.
    Cessation of hostilities, agreement with inspections of possible nuclear facilities etc follow.
    Done.

    Yes, I know.

    More likely, should the above happen it won't stop there. Well, maybe for 6 months/year.
    And then the next phase for the regime change in Tehran. Iran out.
    Next step.

    Because, we do know, I guess, what/who is the real target at the end.
    , @Z-man
    Good video, thanks and thanks to the good colonel.
    , @Cloak And Dagger
    Refreshing video demonstrating Wilkerson's candor about those in power only speaking candidly about US policies being made in Tel Aviv after they are no longer in power. He demonstrates great wisdom and understanding of the nuances of power and influences in the ME w.r.t. Moscow and Beijing - something lost on the mavericks (and Israeli stooges) that have controlled the lever in the state dept. in the last several decades.
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  214. peterAUS says:
    @RobinG
    Yes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larggKpTCsw
    Are we preparing for a full blown war with Iran?
    Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson

    Good video.

    One thing, though.
    The Col. said something like “…invest Iran for 10 years to prevent nuclear capability”.
    Didn’t get that.

    I’d go for “Yugoslavia” scenario first: that “round the clock” capability the Col. did mention to hammer the regime in Tehran into submission. Maybe with stirring some internal things, incursions etc.
    If Hormuz is threatened escalate. That escalate could go into limited invasion to control that coast there.
    All could be accomplished in 3 months I guess.
    Cessation of hostilities, agreement with inspections of possible nuclear facilities etc follow.
    Done.

    Yes, I know.

    More likely, should the above happen it won’t stop there. Well, maybe for 6 months/year.
    And then the next phase for the regime change in Tehran. Iran out.
    Next step.

    Because, we do know, I guess, what/who is the real target at the end.

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  215. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    August 15, 2008

    Leaders were once named after their most (in)famous acts. In the 10th century Ethelred, king of England, was called "the Unready" after he panicked at the prospect of Viking pirates coming to raid his shores; he was forever after known as "Ethelred the Redeless" --- the king who was bereft of counsel in the face of barbarian attack.

    Well, here we are a thousand years later, and our vaunted leader-to-be Barry O is about as ready as Ethelred was in the year 1000 CE. Because we are still threatened by barbarians today. Check the headlines if you don't believe it.

    Vladimir Putin should be known throughout the world as "Putin the Poisoner." His signature act -- the action that defined Putin's character for all the world to see -- was the radioactive poisoning of KGB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London, using polonium-210. The kicker is that you can't just buy polonium-210 at your local chemical supply store. You can only get it if you have a nuclear weapons industry, because there you need it to start a nuclear chain reaction. It's a super-tricky substance to control. Putin's assassins left their traces all over London. Chemically, Po-210 is 250,000 times more toxic than hydrogen cyanide. But the Russians have always favored overkill.

    Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/08/barry_the_unready_and_putin_th.html#ixzz5AmQp7I5I

     

    Vlad the Impaler says he never impaled anyone, and cant understand why anyone disbelieving him

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge-ilEFgJ34

    “Vladimir Putin should be known throughout the world as “Putin the Poisoner.” His signature act — the action that defined Putin’s character for all the world to see — was the radioactive poisoning of KGB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London, using polonium-210.”
    – Sean, do you have a single substantiated evidence for the above anti-Russian propaganda written by the intellectually dishonest Mr. Lewis in 2008? It does not take long to see his dishonesty.
    A sample (2014): James Lewis: “The major causes of the new world war can be found in oil-fueled hate propaganda sponsored by Gulf Arabs and Iran.” – This is rich coming from a mouth of an American Jew.
    More: “Iran and Saudi Arabia … have lost control of the wars they started thirty years ago. Muammar Gadhafi was overthrown.” — You see, according to Mr. Lewis, Clinton and her AIPAC friends have nothing to do with the death of Quaddaffi.
    More from the zioconish Lewsi: ” What we know at this time is that massive aggression against our national security is now worldwide. We know with certainty the ideological origins of worldwide war — and that it is not, repeat not our fault, contrary to liberal illusionists.” — Is Mr. Lewis really that stupid that he fails to learn about some 1000 American bases positioned around the globe?
    “According to a new poll from WIN and Gallup International, the U.S. represents the largest threat to world peace today. In their annual End of Year poll, researchers for WIN and Gallup International surveyed more than 66,000 people across 65 nations and found that 24 percent of all respondents answered that the United States “is the greatest threat to peace in the world today.” http://www.ibtimes.com/gallup-poll-biggest-threat-world-peace-america-1525008
    – You see, facts have anti-Lewis bias. Mr. Lewis believes deeply that the US (similar to Mr. Lewis) is the most innocent and most defenseless entity in the world. Where did he has got this idea, one wonders… Anyway, facts are of no concern for Mr. James Lewis.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/09/the_awful_truth_the_world_is_at_war.html

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    I gave Putin the benefit of the doubt the first time, when FSB turncoat Alexander Litvinenko in London exile publicly claimed he had video proof that Putin is a child molester, and was shortly thereafter was murdered with polonium-210 (a ridiculous excess of it).

    However now Skirpal, another FSB turncoat, has been poisoned in England (using a very meager amount of Russian nerve gas). I have to conclude Putin must take FSB men's treachery very personally, and have authorised Skirpal's assassination.

    That there is some Fourth Protocol type faction in the Russian (or British secret services) or with &access to the nerve gas (as now being floated by Moscow loyalists is very unlikely.

    The stellar career of Alexei Ulyukaev shows that Putin rewards absolute loyalty from his small circle of ex KGB advisers, and I think they did not dare give him honest advice when this assassination was contemplated. They maybe went along or even suggested it because they wanted to please their boss and be appointed to a good job at a oil company. Ulyukaev is a bit of a hothead, demolishing a $100 million house because the wife he was building it for ran away with an Italian racing driver. Russia is ill-served by these cowboy characters around Putin, he should start paying attention to career diplomats, who have no objection to lying as long as it does not come back to bite the country on the arse. Russia does not now have a consulate in Seattle, where is the benefit in that?

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  216. QNA says:
    @RobinG
    Are you one of those BAP//UNAC types who refuse to cooperate with anti-war conservatives, who won't attend a conference if Libertarians are included? What will you do with them when YOUR tyranny rules the democracy? Maybe you ARE a Bolshevik.

    This touchy preoccupation with the 1-dimensional left/right, conservative/liberal spectrum seems somewhat strange. Antiwar people are off on an orthogonal axis and indifferent to the official US government typology, since they are the true political enemies of the state. Anybody who can identify as conservative or liberal has fallen to some extent under the influence of controlled opposition. The only real conflict is the humans against this overreaching state. Everything else is COINTELPRO squabbling.

    You never know who can help. Some people associate with the ultras who find themselves in the US Gestapo. Some might label them conservatives. The government labels them insider threats. Everyone’s disgusted with this government. That’s the thing we always have in common.

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    "Anybody who can identify as conservative or liberal has fallen to some extent under the influence of controlled opposition."
     
    Well then, you'd better check with your BAP friends about that, because that's where there at, although they might use a label like progressive, not liberal.
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  217. Randal says:
    @QNA
    You use the word discrimination in a general, vaguely perceptual, sense to make a uncontroversial statement, but then you get wrapped around the axle.

    In human rights law, discrimination is a term of art with a more specific meaning. It means denying rights to certain sorts of people. If you actually believe in rights, you know you can't do that, because if it isn't universal, it isn't a right.

    The foundation of modern identity politics is statist divide-and-rule.

    In human rights law, discrimination is a term of art with a more specific meaning. It means denying rights to certain sorts of people.

    No, it doesn’t. It means denying “rights” to people (but in practice mostly only to people in specially protected groups or classes).

    There is no “right” to be respected.
    There is no “right” to be served in a shop.
    There is no “right” to be given a job.
    etc

    There is a right to, if you are an employer, choose for yourself whom to employ on whatever basis you like. There is a right, if you are a businessman, to choose with whom you do business on whatever basis you like. There is a right to choose whom you like and dislike, whom you respect and don’t respect, on whatever basis you like.

    These rights are not necessarily respected in law in the countries of the US sphere (quite the contrary in most cases), but that just reflects that fact that these are not countries that respect rights, or even understand what they are. Rather, laws are passed on supposedly utilitarian grounds, but in reality on the grounds that suit the powerful groups and lobbies that influence the creation of laws. Like you, they mostly apply leftist and identity lobby dogmas to create manufactured “rights” that suit political ends.

    The foundation of modern identity politics is statist divide-and-rule.

    No, the foundation of modern identity politics is democracy and the “squeaky wheel” rule.

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    Now you're just making shit up. Nobody listens to these Grampa tirades even on Thanksgiving.
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  218. RobinG says:
    @QNA
    This touchy preoccupation with the 1-dimensional left/right, conservative/liberal spectrum seems somewhat strange. Antiwar people are off on an orthogonal axis and indifferent to the official US government typology, since they are the true political enemies of the state. Anybody who can identify as conservative or liberal has fallen to some extent under the influence of controlled opposition. The only real conflict is the humans against this overreaching state. Everything else is COINTELPRO squabbling.

    You never know who can help. Some people associate with the ultras who find themselves in the US Gestapo. Some might label them conservatives. The government labels them insider threats. Everyone's disgusted with this government. That's the thing we always have in common.

    “Anybody who can identify as conservative or liberal has fallen to some extent under the influence of controlled opposition.”

    Well then, you’d better check with your BAP friends about that, because that’s where there at, although they might use a label like progressive, not liberal.

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  219. Rogue says:
    @jacques sheete
    Rogue, you might find Raico's book full of good info. This is relevant to the article's main topic as well.

    Churchill had been a strong Zionist practically from the start, holding that Zionism would deflect European Jews from social revolution to partnership with European imperialism in the Arab world.69 Now, in 1936, he forged links with the informal London pressure group known as e Focus, whose purpose was to open the eyes of the British public to the one great menace, Nazi Germany. “e great bulk of its finance came from Jewish businessmen such as Sir Robert Mond (a director of several chemical firms) and Sir Robert Waley-Cohn, the managing director of Shell, the laer contributing £50,000.” e Focus was to be useful in expanding Churchill’s network of contacts and in pushing for his entry into the Cabinet.70

    -Ralph Raico, Great Wars and Great Leaders, p 70 (2010)
    https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Great%20Wars%20and%20Great%20Leaders%20A%20Libertarian%20Rebuttal_2.pdf

     

    Thanks. Appreciate the several responses. Not to say I will necessarily believe what you have to say, but it will be food for thought.

    As a non-American I can only shake my head at the craven lickspittle pandering to the Zionists that goes on amongst US politicians. Beyond farce.

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  220. Rogue says:
    @Rurik

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so?
     
    by controlling the banks and the money supply

    Rothschild's control of England is legendary. The real (and never mentioned reason for the American revolution was the British demand that the American colonies use fiat debt paper as their currency, which would mean slavery to the Bank of England. That was also the reason for the war of 1812, because Rothschild was determined to enslave all governments and people. Andrew Jackson had their number, and so did many patriots.

    I mean why the f' would any sane nation want to have their currency provided by the world's greediest men - at interest, that by design can never be paid off, when they can simply print their own?!

    It means slavery. Debt slavery to evil men.

    That's why it's in the Constitution that the US print and coin its own currency. But Wilson betrayed us all, and not just Americans, but the world, because after the Jews got their WWII, the Federal Reserve Note was designated as the world's reserve currency, thereby enslaving the entire planet to the tender mercies of the world's most evil men; the International Zionist Banksters.

    so this had been going on for a while now, and it was Wilson who arranged for Trotsky to go to Moscow with suitcases full of cash, in order to fund the Bolshevik revolution, that would enslave Russia with that other invention of the International Jew; communism.

    This is why Hitler railed against both capitalism and communism as methods of evil men to enslave their betters.

    anyways, it's all tied together. We didn't get where we are overnight

    (must go- to be continued)

    Ok, thanks for the reply. All food for thought – though not necessarily saying I’m going to agree.

    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda. Not that I’m a fan of him – for several reasons I’m not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.

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    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda. Not that I’m a fan of him – for several reasons I’m not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.
     
    Bingo on both counts!

    The propagandists operate on the principle of blaming others for what you're doing. It's an old trick but still effective. The effects last for decades if not centuries.

    , @Rurik

    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda.
     
    it all has continuity, going back to Rothschild at Waterloo and before- to Babylon and the invention of paper money.

    Not that I’m a fan of him – for several reasons I’m not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.
     
    Hubris and racial arrogance did Hitler and Germany in.

    Just think if instead of all that rhetoric about Germans and the Aryan/Nordic race as exceptional, he instead reached out to the Slavs, and spoke of them as brothers under assault from the same force (Bolshevism/Zionism) that menaced Germany and beyond. Perhaps he could have rallied the Slavs as allies, and routed the Fiend with little effort. The Slavic peoples (Russians, Cossacks, Poles, others..) were just as brutalized and victimized by the Jewish supremacist Bolsheviks as anyone else, more so even.

    Just imagine if Hitler would have embraced them as brothers, rather than denigrating them, it all could have turned out differently.

    but my main point is that this is all of one cause. From the Treaty of Versailles to WWII, to the war on Iraq and the pending war on Iran. These are not separate occurrences, as they'd have us all believe, they're all tied together. All part of the creeping hegemony and Orwellian dystopia the tribe is working towards, relentlessly, imperceptibly, and with a vicious (netherworld even) monomaniacal imperative.

    Yesterday it was Nazi Germany, today it is Western civilization they have slated for murder and genocide. If the West doesn't muster the wherewithal to resist these demons, (and end the Fed!)..

    ..then what happened to Germany after the war was "won", will be the fate of our grandchildren - Aryan, Nordic, Russian, Slav and all others whom the Jewish supremacists consider affronts to their insane and hysterical narrative as 'the chosen'. As long as there's a tall, proud pretty blond woman out there, with intelligent eyes - it will drive them apoplectic with envy. How can they be God's special little pets, (the only ones with souls, the only ones who matter!), if God also created these white Christian types, so beautiful and strong, who create these magnificent civilizations?

    If the tribe can simply destroy these people, under a tsunami of immigrants, and see them flooded into a morass disconnected consumers, lacking any collective heritage or ethos, then they can rewrite history minus the inconvenient parts like Rome, or the Renaissance, with the chosen as the only people of note, who created all things good and noble. Blah, blah, blah.

    Sorry, ranting a bit, as is my unfortunate wont.

    As we bear witness to the lies ((they)) tell hourly, and always with the agenda of war and the demonization and destruction of their enemy du jour, how can we not conclude that the ((same people)) telling the lies today, weren't the same people telling the same devil's lies during the lead up to WWII?

    Didn't they lie about the Holodomor?

    Didn't they lie about Stalin's ambitions to enslave the planet, as was demonstrated at the end of the war, when half of Europe was turned over to his tender mercies?

    Didn't they lie about Katyn?

    Didn't they lie about everything, always? In fact, if they're talking (western media, western politicians, western academics) isn't it a certainty that they're lying?!

    So now that the exact same people are lying us all into eternal wars for Israel, as we all watch with alarm and sadness and horror how nation after nation are being destroyed, and millions upon millions of lives are ended or driven to despair...

    all of it

    ALL OF IT!

    are nothing more than a continuation of their same satanic imperative to enslave the planet that menaced Germany in the last century.

    So all I'm saying is, I wasn't there when the world was driven to the brink of war (and over) in the 1930s. When great men like Lindberg were trying to warn them.

    But I'm here now, and I see all the same financial treachery vis-a-vis the Fed, that Bernanke even admitted was responsible for the Great Depression in the 1930s

    I see the same cultural and spiritual sewage being injected into America's children, as happened during the Weimar regime, when the starving children of Germany were used as amusements to the world's depraved sexual predators.

    I see the same corruption of America's institutions, and the denigration of its heritage as evil and vile, just as they humiliated Germans and Germany's heritage, when they dominated it in absolute terms, just as they dominate the West's institutions today, using as always their God damned Fed- to supply literally unlimited lucre towards their nefarious ends.

    Nothing has changed, and nothing will change unless we can take away their counterfeiting machine, that allowed them to corrupt everything.

    No one is allowed to audit the Federal Reserve Bank. No one has power over it, not the president, not the congress, not the EU or the UN.

    The (((Federal Reserve Bank))) is the only power on earth that is above all earthy sovereignty. Having corrupted even the Vatican, and turned it too into a house of iniquity and rampant pedophilia/anti-Western hatred.

    If we can't rein in the Fed, then get used to more Eternal Wars (for Israel) and cultural and spiritual death for your children and grandchildren, as they will curse us in our graves for what we've condemned them to, out of our cowardice and apathy.
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  221. Z-man says:
    @Cloak And Dagger
    Well, as many here have ridiculed the delusional Trump hopefuls that their dear leader was a 3D chess player, I have to confess that I was in the ranks of the delusional who held out hope for Trump being a diabolical chess player who was quietly draining the swamp with masterful application of the Art of the Deal. To my sorrow, that delusion ended in a disappointing clatter with the appointment of Walrus Bolton a few days ago. This is the ultimate act of betrayal from those of us who had believed that MAGA was not just campaign rhetoric and were willing to turn a blind eye to all that transpired since he was elected, believing that these were all deeper machinations towards the greater good of restoring this republic.

    Sadly, childhood always ends. I turned off the lights and locked the door behind me.

    But, once we stop believing in Santa and the Tooth Fairy, delusion is replaced by wisdom. Regardless of being a disappointment, Trump has shown that we, the people, do have the power to thwart the desires of the deep state and elect the unelectable. We have shown that Jewish power is not invincible and that next time, if we can find the right person, we do have the power to be king makers.

    In the past, my champion was Ron Paul. Unfortunately, despite the honesty and purity of that great man, he was found wanting in his ability to coalesce this diverse nation into a unified voice. The Jewish media was able to make mincemeat of his proposals and divide the people successfully and fool them into thinking that somehow his domestic policies, something that a POTUS has little control over, took precedence over this foreign policy, ignoring that foreign policy shapes domestic policy. Ron continues to be a voice of reason, and his evangelism of key Libertarian principles may yet help, but he is no longer the one who will lead us to victory.

    Who then?

    Maybe Rand Paul, with all his many failings and the mandatory expression of fealty to Israel, could be the man to watch. It is hard not to become jaded as decades of betrayal take their toll on our faith and increases our cynicism, but without faith there is no hope, and without hope there is no resistance to the forces of darkness. This from an atheist. Go figure!

    No one else comes to mind, unless a new Messiah rises in the next few years.

    I was just going to push my agree button…but I’m still holding out a thread of hope, however thin it might be. (Grin)

    PS. Yeah Rand Paul, maybe he got a stronger pair since he got flattened by his nutty neighbor.

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  222. Z-man says:
    @RobinG
    Yes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larggKpTCsw
    Are we preparing for a full blown war with Iran?
    Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson

    Good video, thanks and thanks to the good colonel.

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  223. Not to say I will necessarily believe what you have to say, but it will be food for thought.

    Exactly. Question everything. I’m happy if I can stimulate some questioning.

    As a non-American I can only shake my head at the craven lickspittle pandering to the Zionists that goes on amongst US politicians. Beyond farce.

    I am in full agreement and have felt that way for decades. The deeper one digs, the more valid that concept appears.

    I have two more pieces that are gems among gems for those who are curious about the subject.

    Both are from longish articles, but worth every second I think.

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Time
    Mr. Rothbard was an American Jew and an historian of the very highest caliber.

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

    This explains how FDR was culpable for fanning the flames of war. He was much worse than Hitler ever was and not only because the US was never threatened, while Germany was.:

    When Ambassador Potocki was back in Warsaw on leave from his post in Washington, he spoke with Count Jan Szembek, the Polish Foreign Ministry Under-Secretary, about the growing danger of war. In his diary entry of 6 July 1939, Szembek recorded Potocki’s astonishment at the calm mood in Poland. In comparison with the war psychosis that had gripped the West, Poland seemed like a rest home.

    “In the West,” the Ambassador told Szembek, “there are all kinds of elements openly pushing for war: the Jews, the super-capitalists, the arms dealers. Today they are all ready for a great business, because they have found a place which can be set on fire: Danzig; and a nation that is ready to fight: Poland. They want to do business on our backs. They are indifferent to the destruction of our country. Indeed, since everything will have to be rebuilt later on, they can profit from that as well.”[30]

    -Mark Weber, President Roosevelt’s Campaign To Incite War in Europe: The Secret Polish Documents, The Journal of Historical Review, p 137

    http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/4/2/Weber135-172.html

    Your comment about craven lickspittles tells me you’ll find lots of good info to support your intuitions on the matter.Enjoy!

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  224. @Rogue
    Ok, thanks for the reply. All food for thought - though not necessarily saying I'm going to agree.

    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda. Not that I'm a fan of him - for several reasons I'm not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.

    That Hitler has been (and continues to be) demonized as a kind of Satan is a sure sign of ongoing propaganda. Not that I’m a fan of him – for several reasons I’m not, but we are given a very juvenile (mis)representation of actual WW2 history, and what led to it, methinks.

    Bingo on both counts!

    The propagandists operate on the principle of blaming others for what you’re doing. It’s an old trick but still effective. The effects last for decades if not centuries.

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  225. QNA says:
    @Randal

    In human rights law, discrimination is a term of art with a more specific meaning. It means denying rights to certain sorts of people.
     
    No, it doesn't. It means denying "rights" to people (but in practice mostly only to people in specially protected groups or classes).

    There is no "right" to be respected.
    There is no "right" to be served in a shop.
    There is no "right" to be given a job.
    etc

    There is a right to, if you are an employer, choose for yourself whom to employ on whatever basis you like. There is a right, if you are a businessman, to choose with whom you do business on whatever basis you like. There is a right to choose whom you like and dislike, whom you respect and don't respect, on whatever basis you like.

    These rights are not necessarily respected in law in the countries of the US sphere (quite the contrary in most cases), but that just reflects that fact that these are not countries that respect rights, or even understand what they are. Rather, laws are passed on supposedly utilitarian grounds, but in reality on the grounds that suit the powerful groups and lobbies that influence the creation of laws. Like you, they mostly apply leftist and identity lobby dogmas to create manufactured "rights" that suit political ends.

    The foundation of modern identity politics is statist divide-and-rule.
     
    No, the foundation of modern identity politics is democracy and the "squeaky wheel" rule.

    Now you’re just making shit up. Nobody listens to these Grampa tirades even on Thanksgiving.

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    Yeah, that's about what I expected.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Wow, what a truly insightful response.
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  226. Randal says:
    @QNA
    Now you're just making shit up. Nobody listens to these Grampa tirades even on Thanksgiving.

    Yeah, that’s about what I expected.

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  227. @QNA
    Now you're just making shit up. Nobody listens to these Grampa tirades even on Thanksgiving.

    Wow, what a truly insightful response.

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    All politically correct leftist bluster and no substance to back it up - like I said, about what I expected.
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  228. @Miro23

    In politics, power is everything. No one in Washington is loyal to Trump – Republicans, Democrats, bureaucrats, and j-media are all in some way or other loyal to the deep state. Even worse, most of them are loyal to Israel first. Even his own daughter is loyal to Israel first. Trump has no friends in the DC halls of power.
     
    But there is another kind of power. If the US public could re-familiarize themselves with the art of street demonstrations, this could prove lethal to the Deep State (DS). The DS can leverage its power through targeting individuals (Congressmen, academics, journalists etc. ) but it has far more difficulty dealing with diffuse opposition (as in an election).

    Public demonstrations are the ultimate diffuse threat, and would force the DS to act - and this is the point - DS violence would become explicit and visible, rather than the usual back door variety. The US public would likely wake up at this point (with the direct contact), while radicalization would expose Pelosi, Ryan and the other collaborators, putting them in a much more dangerous place.

    A motive for street action would be Anti-War. Trump was elected on Anti-War but is going for more ME conflict and more $ Trillions of debt.

    Marches don’t really accomplish much, especially when the government is as detached from the electorate as is visible today. The marches in GB against the invasion of Iraq were huge but did nothing to stop it. British police have also developed new strategies to disrupt and confound marchers and protesters, such as “kettling” them by boxing them into cramped, confined spaces where there is no access to food or water. Hard to imagine they don’t share tactics. Agent provocateurs have also been used to “turn” the protest violent and allow oppressive measure to be used.

    A general strike is a better solution with people calling in ‘sick’ or going slow on the job. Very slow pedestrians blocking streets and stations so that people can’t get to work on time so business suffers greatly and pressure is brought to bear by those with greater access and influence, business owners.

    Some of the older and simpler methods, like handbills, posters and stencils are effective too and harder to thwart. It won’t be easy and those in control can reduce access to food and other staples so the less well prepared will suffer more than they need to. Things are so bad now that suffering of some sort is inevitable as has always been the case for the common man when nations choose to go to war.

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    It's like the Rock-Paper-Scissors hand game. Every position has its weakness.

    The Deep State (rock) can control all the elements of power (the administration, media, Congress, academia) by targeting individual dissidents. Individual journalists, academics and Congressmen know the rules and aren't going to risk their careers.

    The Paper is diffuse public action. Demonstrations, strikes and general mass protest are loss of control from the POV of the Deep State, and very difficult to deal with.

    If their standard technique of targeting individuals doesn't work, then, at some point they have to engage in violence against large public groups - something that is highly risky from their point of view since; 1) It can't be hidden and 2) it can spiral out of control.

    Also, as the public starts to familiarize itself with street action, the dynamic builds and is self reinforcing (i.e. it becomes a fashion and a new social norm).
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  229. Randal says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Wow, what a truly insightful response.

    All politically correct leftist bluster and no substance to back it up – like I said, about what I expected.

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    Michael Jackson doubtless had a fulsomely-articulated explanation why statutory rape law doesn't mean what it says. That doesn't mean I have to take him seriously.

    Feel free to look at what you're trying to talk about and explain why it doesn't mean what it says.

    Your state and federal common law:
    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Documents/UDHR_Translations/eng.pdf

    and, supreme law of the land equivalent to federal statute, which with domestic law at all levels must come into compliance:
    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CCPR.aspx
    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CERD.aspx
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  230. Hibernian says:
    @JoaoAlfaiate
    You must be an Irishman.

    There aren’t to many Irish guys named Jake.

    Cromwell wasn’t just bad for the Irish. He was very bad for the British, too. He was a cathedral vandal and the beneficiary of regicide.

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  231. wayfarer says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    In Stefan Molyneux's conversation w/ Prof. Duchesne, the latter explained how "universal human rights" evolved to rationalize the notion that national rights are meaningless, but an immigrant to a land. legal, illegal, whatever, possessed "universal human rights," therefore should be accepted as a citizen of the nation to which he/she migrated.

    http://www.unz.com/video/stefanmolyneux_the-fall-of-canada-prepare-yourself-accordingly/

    With that in mind, consider the meme repeated by the March for Our Lives non-marchers (it was not a march, more like a rally -- or even a Hollywood stage play): "Automatic weapons [let's call them WMD] are weapons of war, used by military in war; ordinary citizens had no need for such weapons and should not be permitted to purchase them or use them."

    This meme was reinforced in a cameo by several members of military who had seen action in Iraq, etc., who said they used those WMD in war (to defend American freedoms and values); they were not to be used by citizens.

    The Children's Crusaders want to feel secure in their schools; "It is not okay that I am afraid to go to school. I have a right to feel safe and the government has an obligation to make me feel safe." That is, feeling safe in school is a "human right." A "universal human right." Just like someone who sneaks across a border to enter USA has a "universal human right" to live in USA and be protected by USA taxpayers.

    One step further: If "human rights" are universal, and if feeling safe in school is a right, a human right, a universal human right, then school children everywhere -- Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Donbass -- have that same universal human right, and the use of WMD even by military in, say, Ukraine or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan, and especially in an undeclared or illicit war, as in Syria, is just as unacceptable as it is in Parkland, Florida.

    Yet the Children's Crusaders actively advocated for members of US military to use WMD "over there," but not over Here.

    --
    In my daily descent into the purgatory of C Span Washington Journal, a white female who identified as a "baby boomer" who was politically activated by participating in Vietnam war demonstrations (on the side of Communists), said the "March for our lives" was just that same kind of event.

    I beg to differ. Most of the protests re Vietnam were in opposition to war.
    The March for Our Lives was the opposite: not only did those children express no concern with use of US taxpayer funded WMD when used to kill black, brown as well as whitefish people "over there," they endorsed those uses; their only concern was that They be protected from them in their (((Boca Raton))) enclaves Over Here.

    These kids even registered outrage over the Florida proposal that all backpacks be transparent! ME? You want to inconvenience ME??

    In my simple world, “universal human rights” have always been entitlements that needed to be earned.

    Yuma Arizona is a U.S.-Mexico border town, and that’s where I live right now. Gun laws here are among the least-restrictive in the United States.

    Which is good because the ratio of police to citizens in Yuma is probably about 1:1000. And not too far from here in Tijuana Mexico the homicide rate is currently about 5 people being murdered each day.

    source: http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/01/09/tijuana-cartel-violence-sets-new-murder-record-2017/

    I gave up praying for safety, about a week after my first confession and holy communion. Always felt “god” had better things to do than spend his time watching out for me.

    Safety is my responsibility, at least that’s the way I’ve always seen it.

    I live in a low-rent trailer park. Hidden in my old fifth-wheel, is an oak axe-handle, a machete, a WWII German K98 bayonet, a large folding knife, a semi-auto handgun with approx. 300 rounds of 9mm ammo, and 4 high-capacity magazines.

    If a stranger in the night enters uninvited, I’m considerate enough to ask questions first. Can’t say that would be the case for other folks in this town, as they’d most likely shoot first and ask any necessary questions, later.

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  232. @QNA
    Your bold challenge tickles my funny bone. It's as if some bejerkined wop flopped out of a time machine and denounced me as a Black Guelf.

    Do you know any communists? Where do they rule, nowadays? Are they still bent on world domination, or are they starting to get discouraged? I'd love to meet one, that would be a hoot.

    Human rights law is entirely agnostic on the question of state ownership of the means of production. You'll be happy to hear that, as human rights law is US state and federal common law and the supreme law of the land, in accord with the Supreme Court's the Paquete Habana decision. Are THEY communists? I thought they were just crooked assholes.

    No one cares how you organize your economy, as long as your UN member nation measures up. Problem is, your UN member nation doesn't cut it. Your kids get tertiary education at the cost of lifetime debt peonage. You have to pay to fix your teeth but you get useless sitting-duck F-35s for free. No one there's a commie, they're just poor downtrodden lumpenproles now.

    So….you’re not a communist? The rest of your response must be to someone other than me. I never said anything about human rights law or economies. Apparently you’re easily confused and can’t be bothered to scroll up and reread before responding.

    You still sound like a commie to me. Since you didn’t bother to deny it, I’ll just go with my original impression of you.

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  233. @RobinG
    You're talking like Taxi, lol. Too bad Ron only sent a video to Orindo. Check out #204 f0r SpringAction. What do you make of QNA posts?

    You’re talking like Taxi, lol.

    No surprise there – she is one smart lady, and being an American expat in the Levant, has a great eagle perch on that part of the world with unfiltered news. Funny you should mention her – I recently posted something on her site after a long while:

    https://platosguns.com/2018/03/15/say-goodbye-to-america-as-we-know-it/#comment-22427

    Check out #204 f0r SpringAction

    More power to them for doing something! I think I will show up at Lake Merritt on April 15.

    What do you make of QNA posts?

    I haven’t read enough of him/her to form a hard opinion – he/she only has a total of 8 posts on this site. There is a whiff of trolling, but as I said, too few samples to reach a conclusion. I am sure we will know in a few weeks if he/she continues to post here. We have recently seen a plethora of personalities that all ended up being from the same source. You can usually tell by whom they attack.

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    You can usually tell by whom they attack.
     
    Another tip-off is how they attack. They spout inanities as veracities.
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  234. @RobinG
    Hey Joe,

    Thanks for trying to answer, but those are goals...(your #164 also).... that is not a plan, so let me state the queston again. How do you propose to achieve those goals?

    Street marches? (Those kids got impressive turnout yesterday ... let's see what comes of it. There were big marches in 2003, but Bush/Cheney still attacked Iraq.)
    "Civil society orgs" like QNA believes?
    Violent rebellion? You scorn voting. So, are you going to overthrow the govt.? How will you do it? (This question has probably triggered the NSA bot, LOL.)

    My guess, since you (and JS also) did not seem to understand the question, your "plan" is to keep complaining in comments sections. That's harmless.

    I think your question is perfectly legitimate.
    Street marches might put some pressure on the establishment but it will fail to do any real change.
    Here one should consider a holistic approach to defiance, starting with civil desobedience all the way to outright confrontation. As a non American, I cannot preach about the right course to take but I do believe that smart resistance does not entail a major shoutout with the many layers of state security. However, I would only confirm that trying to change the system from within will get you nowhere.
    What I would preach to start making a dent in the matrix of control is to advocate the following:
    - to totally refrain from resorting to credit financing which would deprive the banksters from a major income and thereby impede the effect of Wall Street influence on elections.
    -to revive community living by shutting off the idiocy box and mingling with your neighbours in a real buildup of neighbourly solidarity and true social living.
    - to totally turn a deaf ear to the corporate media.
    - to refuse to engage in any armed conflict that does not entail the defence of America from an imminent threat. Here, I can state that one of my favourite heroes is the late boxing champion Mohamed Ali who flatly refused to serve in Vietnam.
    -to revive the labour unions as a an effective political force that could promote representatives who are totally dedicated to the well being of the working class and who can face up to the destructive practices of big business that is hollowing out America’s industrial capacity.
    -to force the American government to heed the taxpayer’s priorities by asking each citizen to allocate how he or she would like to have their tax dollar spent among the major spending programs.
    -to connect with your immediate neighbors about creating an alternative home schooling to keep control of education of children away from the programming of the a Department of Education.
    - to impose the people’s power by simply refusing to obey the diktats of the establishment especially when the government intrudes on what should be the family domain such as vaccination, political correctness etc…
    These are not all comprehensive ideas, but a few tips that should stir the mind of a true rebel to look for alternatives for the self destructing path of ever bigger defence and welfare spending.
    Overall, America needs leaders who are willing to put their lives on the line in pursuit of real reforms unhindered by the police state. A tall order for sure but not an impossible one. The alternative would be a long term decay that will result in economic collapse followed by a dictatorship akin to what happens in most empires after the point on implosion.

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    Some good ideas there. I don't pretend to have the answers but I do as little as possible to support the system and challenge anyone with questions if they parrot the standard propaganda.

    I especially advocate staying out of debt and living below ones' means, but our masters have every base covered. For instance, even if one avoids personal debt, they have ways of loading us with public debt and if we live below our means, they force us to buy stuff that we don't need and never wanted.

    It's a sick system and one that has to be resisted without resting. I wish I had better answers!
    , @Rurik
    I agree with Jacque here Joe, that you've compiled a great list.

    I suspect that much of that wise counsel is just as important to a person's well-being as it is to effecting change.

    Overall, America needs leaders who are willing to put their lives on the line in pursuit of real reforms unhindered by the police state. A tall order for sure but not an impossible one.
     
    I would add that if we haven't given up hope yet, and would like to fight the Fiend, then we should do that (((they)))) do, and give grass-roots support to politicians who are willing to do just that.

    Paul Ryan is a zio-cuck, willing to betray any and every tenet of decency to serve his master, (((Sheldon Adelson, et al))), including of course his 'sacred oath', which for a treasonous cuck like Ryan, is as sacred as dog vomit. Even less so.

    A "soulless globalist from the Democrat wing of the Uni-Party."

    That quote is from Paul Nehlen, who's running against Ryan.

    this from his website

    http://www.electnehlen.com/news/

    if we want to resist the evils that our government is perpetrating, both globally with their zio-wars, and domestically with their hate-agenda, then we should support guys like Nehlen.

    That's what the tribe do relentlessly, they target politicians who refuse to gush over all things Israel.

    Speak one sympathetic word about the Palestinians, and across the entire length and breath of this planet, they will coalesce as one, and use their power of the purse, and media, courts and everything they've got to bring to bear against that person.

    As James Traficant [RIP}, and Cynthia McKinney can attest, they're vicious and resolute, and if we're going to oppose them, we have to learn to be the same. Perhaps not the vicious part, as it's not in our nature, but the resolute part, and the especially the coalesce part.

    I don't know Mr. Nehlen, or if he's a man of integrity or not, but the way he's embracing honorable and brave men like Kevin McDonald, is a sign that this guy has the balls to take on these bastards directly, and a loss for cuck-Ryan would send chills down the congressional hall of whores, that might even be a crack in ((their)) iron grip of power over our congress.

    If so, the entire world's people of good will should support Nehlen. As a repudiation of that nest of war criminals and traitors, that threaten the entire planet with their craven, abject, TOTAL fealty to all things zion. (The Fiend)
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  235. @RobinG
    Yes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larggKpTCsw
    Are we preparing for a full blown war with Iran?
    Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson

    Refreshing video demonstrating Wilkerson’s candor about those in power only speaking candidly about US policies being made in Tel Aviv after they are no longer in power. He demonstrates great wisdom and understanding of the nuances of power and influences in the ME w.r.t. Moscow and Beijing – something lost on the mavericks (and Israeli stooges) that have controlled the lever in the state dept. in the last several decades.

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    Baker was more energetic and didn’t have to deal with a degraded bunch of aggressive school children. Going back in time from 9/11 usually reveals a much more polished form of Imperialism. The fundamentalist offspring - long marinated in domestic criminal business - brought forth their best efforts to set the world ablaze following the September operation.

    Tillerson is a greasy CEO but with manners, nothing prepared him for the bullying of the mob children of the Trump administration and their enabling keepers in the military.

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  236. @jacques sheete

    While we fight each other, we do not fight the demonic forces of an evil tribe that would enslave us as cattle.

    If we don’t stop falling for their tricks and stop them cold in their tracks, it is all over for us.
     
    Nice, succinct summary.

    Thanks JS, George, and Chuck!

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  237. Miro23 says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Marches don't really accomplish much, especially when the government is as detached from the electorate as is visible today. The marches in GB against the invasion of Iraq were huge but did nothing to stop it. British police have also developed new strategies to disrupt and confound marchers and protesters, such as "kettling" them by boxing them into cramped, confined spaces where there is no access to food or water. Hard to imagine they don't share tactics. Agent provocateurs have also been used to "turn" the protest violent and allow oppressive measure to be used.

    A general strike is a better solution with people calling in 'sick' or going slow on the job. Very slow pedestrians blocking streets and stations so that people can't get to work on time so business suffers greatly and pressure is brought to bear by those with greater access and influence, business owners.

    Some of the older and simpler methods, like handbills, posters and stencils are effective too and harder to thwart. It won't be easy and those in control can reduce access to food and other staples so the less well prepared will suffer more than they need to. Things are so bad now that suffering of some sort is inevitable as has always been the case for the common man when nations choose to go to war.

    It’s like the Rock-Paper-Scissors hand game. Every position has its weakness.

    The Deep State (rock) can control all the elements of power (the administration, media, Congress, academia) by targeting individual dissidents. Individual journalists, academics and Congressmen know the rules and aren’t going to risk their careers.

    The Paper is diffuse public action. Demonstrations, strikes and general mass protest are loss of control from the POV of the Deep State, and very difficult to deal with.

    If their standard technique of targeting individuals doesn’t work, then, at some point they have to engage in violence against large public groups – something that is highly risky from their point of view since; 1) It can’t be hidden and 2) it can spiral out of control.

    Also, as the public starts to familiarize itself with street action, the dynamic builds and is self reinforcing (i.e. it becomes a fashion and a new social norm).

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  238. chris says:
    @Rurik

    ’he’s playing 3 dimensional chess’
     
    my last hope was that Bolton would have to pass a Senate confirmation that he wouldn't get. But National Security Advisor requires no confirmation. So Bolton (and war with Iran) are a certainty, as far as I can see.

    It's over.

    Pence can’t be any worse than Trump.
     
    God help us but I think you're mistaken about that.

    Trump is a whore, but Pence is a true believer. Pence wants to force the Second Coming, and that means the Apocalypse, and the Tribulation, and all that other psychotic, biblical insanity.

    Please keep in mind that the Zionists consider WWII as their greatest triumph. 65+ million goyim souls slaughtered horrifically, often by burning alive! You can't get more Old Testament triumphal vengeance than that!

    And all these wars in the Middle East that leave entire nations utterly in ruins.. With their people in shock at the death and carnage and utter despair.. ..are all things that Zionists (and their Christian concubines like Pence) gush over. As the world and all people with a shred of morality or decency, reel from the slaughter-fest, horrified - the Zionists, (just like the dancing Israelis on 9/11 or the cackling war hag over the lynching of Gadhafi) are beside themselves with self-satisfied, ebullient glee. Literally unable to contain their elation.

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/01/F180122HP16-640x400.jpg

    http://blackchristiannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/hagee-pence-cui.jpg

    As bad as Trump is, and has turned out to be, with the dead giveaway by appointing zio-scum Bolton, I suspect that true-believer Pence, would be even worse.

    Trump is a whore, but Pence is a true believer.

    LOL, excellent observation, Rurik!

    When you begin to tally up the caliber of moron which the Jewish filtering process is allowing through the electoral process, people like Halley, Pence here and Williamson, Johnson and May in England, it may be that intelligent people with an ounce of self-respect just refuse to be associated with something like this. What’s left is morons and, like you say, whores.

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  239. Chris took account, wrote: “What’s left is morons and, like you say, whores.”

    Ideally, Donald Trump will be remembered as an insidious “BAIT & SWITCH” Master-practitioner.

    Bait: Stabilize Russian relationship, non-interventionist, rebuild US infrastructure, enforce immigration law, etcetera, ad nauseam.

    Switch: Refer to John Derbyshire’s informative new article at U.R.

    To their own sad demise, “whores” appetites are unsatiable. Donald Trump’s appetite to serve Israel is gluttonous and for the time being, it is “the gift” to Adelson & Netanyahu that “keeps on giving,” and of course to him$elf.

    Thanks.

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  240. @Cloak And Dagger

    You’re talking like Taxi, lol.
     
    No surprise there - she is one smart lady, and being an American expat in the Levant, has a great eagle perch on that part of the world with unfiltered news. Funny you should mention her - I recently posted something on her site after a long while:

    https://platosguns.com/2018/03/15/say-goodbye-to-america-as-we-know-it/#comment-22427


    Check out #204 f0r SpringAction
     
    More power to them for doing something! I think I will show up at Lake Merritt on April 15.

    What do you make of QNA posts?
     

    I haven't read enough of him/her to form a hard opinion - he/she only has a total of 8 posts on this site. There is a whiff of trolling, but as I said, too few samples to reach a conclusion. I am sure we will know in a few weeks if he/she continues to post here. We have recently seen a plethora of personalities that all ended up being from the same source. You can usually tell by whom they attack.

    You can usually tell by whom they attack.

    Another tip-off is how they attack. They spout inanities as veracities.

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  241. @Joe Levantine
    I think your question is perfectly legitimate.
    Street marches might put some pressure on the establishment but it will fail to do any real change.
    Here one should consider a holistic approach to defiance, starting with civil desobedience all the way to outright confrontation. As a non American, I cannot preach about the right course to take but I do believe that smart resistance does not entail a major shoutout with the many layers of state security. However, I would only confirm that trying to change the system from within will get you nowhere.
    What I would preach to start making a dent in the matrix of control is to advocate the following:
    - to totally refrain from resorting to credit financing which would deprive the banksters from a major income and thereby impede the effect of Wall Street influence on elections.
    -to revive community living by shutting off the idiocy box and mingling with your neighbours in a real buildup of neighbourly solidarity and true social living.
    - to totally turn a deaf ear to the corporate media.
    - to refuse to engage in any armed conflict that does not entail the defence of America from an imminent threat. Here, I can state that one of my favourite heroes is the late boxing champion Mohamed Ali who flatly refused to serve in Vietnam.
    -to revive the labour unions as a an effective political force that could promote representatives who are totally dedicated to the well being of the working class and who can face up to the destructive practices of big business that is hollowing out America's industrial capacity.
    -to force the American government to heed the taxpayer's priorities by asking each citizen to allocate how he or she would like to have their tax dollar spent among the major spending programs.
    -to connect with your immediate neighbors about creating an alternative home schooling to keep control of education of children away from the programming of the a Department of Education.
    - to impose the people's power by simply refusing to obey the diktats of the establishment especially when the government intrudes on what should be the family domain such as vaccination, political correctness etc...
    These are not all comprehensive ideas, but a few tips that should stir the mind of a true rebel to look for alternatives for the self destructing path of ever bigger defence and welfare spending.
    Overall, America needs leaders who are willing to put their lives on the line in pursuit of real reforms unhindered by the police state. A tall order for sure but not an impossible one. The alternative would be a long term decay that will result in economic collapse followed by a dictatorship akin to what happens in most empires after the point on implosion.

    Some good ideas there. I don’t pretend to have the answers but I do as little as possible to support the system and challenge anyone with questions if they parrot the standard propaganda.

    I especially advocate staying out of debt and living below ones’ means, but our masters have every base covered. For instance, even if one avoids personal debt, they have ways of loading us with public debt and if we live below our means, they force us to buy stuff that we don’t need and never wanted.

    It’s a sick system and one that has to be resisted without resting. I wish I had better answers!

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  242. Hi All, including adversaries,

    Below is article on US offensive “defense” tax dollars at work, including photo display which our Zio Corporate Media tactfully ignores.