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The Donald Trump administration is planning to install a 30,000 strong armed “security force” in northern Syria along the borders with Turkey and Iraq. This presumably will tie together and support the remaining rag-tags of allegedly pro-democracy rebels and will fit in with existing and proposed U.S. bases. The maneuver is part of a broader plan to restructure Syria to suit the usual crop of neocon geniuses in Washington that have slithered their way back into the White House and National Security Council, to include renewed demands that the country’s President Bashar al-Assad “must go,” reiterated by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson last Wednesday. He said “But let us be clear: The United States will maintain a military presence in Syria, focused on ensuring ISIS cannot re-emerge.” Tillerson also claimed that remaining in Syria would prevent Iran from “reinforcing” its position inside Syria and would enable the eventual ouster of al-Assad, but he has also denied that Washington was creating a border force at all, yet another indication of the dysfunction in the White House.

A plan pulled together in Washington by people who should know better but seemingly don’t is hardly a blueprint for success, particularly as there is no path to anything approximating “victory” and no exit strategy. The Syrians have not been asked if they approve of an arrangement that will be put in place in their sovereign territory and the Turks have already bombed targets and sent troops and allied militias into the Afrin region, also a U.S. supported Kurdish enclave on the border. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has indicated clearly that Ankara will disrupt any U.S. devised border arrangement. From the Turkish point of view the border security force, which reportedly will largely consist of Kurdish militiamen, will inevitably work in cooperation with the Kurdish terrorist group PKK which is active on the Turkish side of the border, in seeking to create an autonomous Kurdish state, which Turkey reasonably enough regards as an existential threat.

And then there is one other little complication, which is that the United States presence in Syria is completely illegal both under international law and under the U.S. government’s War Powers Act. Syria is a sovereign state with a recognized government and there is no U.N. or Congressional mandate that permits Washington to station its soldiers, Marines and airmen within the country’s borders. The argument that the recent Authorizations to Use Military Force (AUMF) permitted the activity because groups linked to al-Qaeda were active there and the local government was unable to expel them is only thinly credible as the U.S. has also attacked Syrian Army forces and the militiamen linked to Syria’s ally Iran. That constitutes a war crime.

Trump can under the War Powers Act take military action to counter an imminent threat, which was never the case from Syria in any event, but after 60 days he has to cease or desist or go to Congress for authorization up to and possibly including a declaration of war. The military offensive against Syria began under President Barack Obama and it is far beyond that two-month window already, so egregiously in violation that some Congressmen are actually beginning to take notice. Democratic Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia has demanded that no military initiatives in Syria be undertaken without a Senate vote. He said on Thursday that“I am deeply alarmed that yet again, the Trump administration continues to raise the risk of unnecessary war, disconnected from any firm policy objectives and core national security interests. To be clear, neither the 2001 or 2002 AUMFs provide authority to target Assad or Iranian proxies in Syria, and it is unacceptable for this action to be taken absent a vote and approval of Congress.”

The animus against Syria runs deep, to include questionable claims from generally hostile sources that al-Assad has deliberately massacred hundreds of thousands of his own people as well as dubious assertations about the use of chemical weapons that led to a U.S. cruise missile attack on a Syrian airbase in Shayrat. A perfect example of how brain dead the western media is over the issue was provided by last week’s article by David Brunnstrom of Reuters on the Tillerson speech, where he wrote “U.S. forces in Syria have already faced direct threats from Syrian and Iranian-backed forces, leading to the shoot-down of Iranian drones and a Syrian jet last year, as well as to tensions with Russia.” The uninformed reader would assume that Americans were the victims of an attack and aggression by Moscow whereas the reality is quite different. Iran and Russia are allies of the legitimate Syrian government that are in the country by invitation to help in its fight against groups that everyone acknowledges to be terrorists. The United States is there illegally and is as often as not using its proxies to fight the Syrian Army.

Syria-phobia goes back to the George W. Bush Administration in December 2003, when Congress passed the Syria Accountability Act, House Resolution 1828. Syria at that time was already in the cross-hairs of two principal American so-called allies in the region, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Both were actively working to destabilize the regime, though for different reasons. The Saudis were fearful of Iranian influence over Damascus but also had a religious agenda in that the secular Syrian regime was protective of religious minorities and was itself an offshoot of Shi’a Islam referred to as Alawites. The Saudis considered them to be heretics.

The Israelis for their part were enamored of the Yinon Plan of 1982 and the Clean Break proposals made in 1996 by a team of Jewish American neocons. Their intention was to transform most of Israel’s neighboring Arab states into warring tribes and ethnicities so they would no longer be a threat. Israeli leaders have stated openly that they would prefer continued chaos in Syria, which remains a prime target. Israel is, in fact, currently bombing Syrian Army positions, most recently near Damascus, while also supporting the ISIS and al-Nusra Front remnants.

The Syrian Accountability Act does indeed read at times like the completely bogus indictment of Saddam Hussein that had led to the invasion of Iraq earlier in 2003. It cites development of weapons of mass destruction and missiles, but its main focus is related to the alleged support of terrorist groups by Damascus. It “Declares the sense of Congress that the Government of Syria should immediately and unconditionally halt support for terrorism, permanently and openly declare its total renunciation of all forms of terrorism, and close all terrorist offices and facilities in Syria, including the offices of Hamas, Hizballah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command.”

One might note that the groups cited by name are not identified as being a threat to the United States. Rather, they are organizations hostile to Israel, which suggests that the motivation for the bill was the usual dominant pro-Israeli sentiment in Congress. The bill’s sponsor was Eliot Engel of New York, a passionately pro-Israeli legislator.

Be that as it may, the drive to “get” Syria has remained a constant in American Foreign Policy to this day. When the U.S. still had an Embassy in Damascus, in December 2010 President Barack Obama maladroitly sent as Ambassador Robert Ford. Ford actively supported the large demonstrations by anti-regime Syrians inspired by the Arab Spring who were opposed to the al-Assad government and he might even have openly advocated an armed uprising, a bizarre interpretation of what Ambassadors are supposed to do in a foreign country. He once stated absurdly that if the U.S. had armed opponents of the regime, al-Qaeda groups would have been “unable to compete.” Ford was recalled a year later, after being pelted by tomatoes and eggs, over concerns that his remaining in country might not be safe, but the damage had been done and normal diplomatic relations between Damascus and Washington have never been restored.

The desire to bring about regime change in Damascus gathered considerable steam in 2011. Harsh government efforts to repress the demonstrations that did take place inevitably led to violence in both directions and the United States, Saudis and the Gulf States subsequently began to arm the rebels and support the formation of the Free Syrian Army, which Washington assured the American public consisted of only good people who wanted democracy and fundamental rights. To no one’s surprise many of the fledgling democrats accepted U.S. training and weapons before defecting to the al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusra Front or to ISIS.

Currently, the reconstruction of Syria is proceeding. The Syrian Arab Army is wiping out the last few enclaves controlled by ISIS in Idlib Province and the so-called Syrian Civil War will soon be over but for the mopping up. Many internal refugees have returned to their homes after the government reasserted control and also thousands who fled overseas have reportedly come back. Note that they are returning to areas where the al-Assad government is firmly in charge, perhaps suggesting that, while there were legitimate grievances among the Syrian people, the propaganda insisting that most Syrians were opposed to the regime was grossly overstated. There is considerable evidence that Bashar al-Assad is actually supported by a large majority of the Syrian people, even among those who would welcome more democracy, because they know the alternative to him is chaos.

One would like to think that Syria might again be Syria but Washington is baying for blood and clearly would like to see a solution that involves a fragmentation of the state enabling containment and rollback of Iranian influence there while also satisfying both its clients Israel and the Saudis as well as creating a possible mini-state for the Kurds. The destruction of Syria and the Syrian people will just be regarded as collateral damage while building a new Middle East. Hopefully the Syrians, backed by Iran, Russia and China will prevent that from happening and as the U.S. did not directly engage in much of the hard fighting that destroyed ISIS, it thankfully has little leverage over what comes next.

Whether it is the Riyadh or Tel Aviv leading Washington by the nose is somehow irrelevant as the blame for what is taking place is squarely on the White House. The United States has no coherent policy, nor any actual national interest in remaining in Syria, but the strange political alignments that appear to be playing out in and around the Oval Office have generated a desire to destroy a country and people that in no way threaten the U.S. Someone should remind the president that similar scenarios did not turn out very well in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. No one should expect that Syria will be any different.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. which is that the United States presence in Syria is completely illegal both under international law and under the U.S. government’s War Powers Act.

    The founders left out an important penalty from the constitution: should congress fail to enforce the War Powers Act or any other duties that they are entrusted with, it should be dissolved and a new congress elected excluding any incumbents from being re-elected.

  2. It is not Washington who hates Bashar.
    It is stupid Jews like anon, and LK here who hate Bashar.

    • Agree: Druid
    • Troll: L.K, FB
  3. For me this is very simple. We have no standing to occupy Syria, regardless of the AUMF. Syria has not attacked the US has no intention of attacking the US, is not threat to the US. Our strategic aims of shorting Syria because they are an ally of Iran has no more teeth than sending our troops to occupy another’s sovereign territory minus their permission.

    There are concerns about Iran, but nothing as yet to justify our presence in Syria. There are plenty of checks that don’t require we violate another’s sovereignty. The most obvious of which is supporting the states in the region we refer to as friends — and we can support them without supporting their own violations of state sovereignty.

    Whether Pres Assaad is supported by ten or ten million is an issue for Syrians to figure out and manage.

  4. @Cloak And Dagger

    The WPA was an invention of to curb any attempt by Pres Nixon to support S. Vietnam’s victory in establishing their own country.

    Given that, it salience in today’s foreign policy is all but forgotten. It is preceded by the Constitutional authority over the military (and its use).

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe because he has an attractive wife?
    (This is only a half serious comment, but I think there is some truth here…)
    (I used to oppose Assad, but now I think he is doing a reasonable job of playing the hand he was dealt. He is not the best of men, but most of us aren’t.)

  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Why does Washington hate Bashar al-Assad?

    If this were anyone other than Giraldi asking, I might be tempted to explain how things work in Washington

  7. Willem says:

    Washington does not hate Assad

    What Washington does not want, is that countries become independent from Washington, that is all.

    Here is Washington ‘diplomacy’ in a nutshell

    1. Tell countries what to do (in the interest of Washington)
    2. If 1. fails, send diplomats to countries and tell them what they should do (in the interest of Washington)
    3. If 2. fails, impose economic sanctions to countries, for as long as they do not behave in the interest of Washington
    4. If 3. fails, start a color revolution in the country: hire some busloads full with ‘protesters’ that shout ‘Leader out’, televise it, seduce the police of the country to agression to the protestors, or air it as if the police was agressive to peaceful protestors.
    5. If 4. fails, send in the military

    The reason why Washington does this is explained in a 2 minute film of John Perkins.

    Specific to why Washington does this to Syria is oil and gas (e.g. Google ‘Pipelinestan’ for more info), and not because Washington hates Assad.

    • Replies: @Toby Keith
  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Didn’t spooks like Giraldi work to install Bashar’s daddy and Saddam Hussein?

    • Replies: @chris
    , @El Dato
    , @annamaria
  9. Hubbard says:

    Someone should remind the president that similar scenarios did not turn out very well in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. No one should expect that Syria will be any different.

    Are we incompetent or it is intentional?

    Either way it has empowered the Shia Crescent and today Iran is at the doorsteps of ISISRael. Netanyahu had visited Putin bunch of times in the last year or more of Obama’s Presidency. He care less for Putin now and seems very happy full of confidence. There is always calm before the storm.

    Think Peace – Paul!

    • Replies: @Hubbard
    , @chris
  10. If you’re going by pure numbers, Assad has killed FAR more people than ISIS/Al Qaeda combined. He just does it the “boring, old fashioned” way. That would be indiscriminately bombing and shelling cities.

    ISIS just gets more press because, while they kill less, they make fairly high production, HD videos of beheadings and people being set on fire coupled with threats to attack the West. Meanwhile, that same day, Assad could’ve killed dozens more via barrel bombs or indiscriminate artillery.

    Also, in Saydnaya prison, 13,000 people have been hanged or tortured to death (estimates of 50 being hanged every day at one point), and 18,000 have starved to death (there’s photographic proof). Keep in mind, this is just one prison. There are tens, if not hundreds of thousands missing in Syria still. Reports from Assad prisons are horrific, 80 people crammed into cells meant for five, widespread rape, little food etc.

    No, I’m not supporting regime change. I realize brutal dictators like Assad in the Middle East are sometimes all that can keep minorities like Christians or Alawites from being slaughtered. That being said, we shouldn’t whitewash Assad and paint him as some benevolent person. He’s a very wicked man who is fighting against equally wicked men.

    Stop pretending that everyone Assad’s regime has tortured, starved or bombed to death is some hardcore ISIS/Al Qaeda beheader, because that’s just not true. I don’t have much sympathy for either side in this war, because both have committed horrible atrocities. If I had to pick, I would pick the secular dictator who would protect religious minorities and not require every woman to wear a bag over her head.

  11. Hubbard says:
    @Hubbard

    With VP Pence threatening both Egypt and Jordan, pretty soon they will join the Shia Crescent and it will then become the Islamic Crescent. Good times are ahead for Muslims.

    Think Peace – Paul!

  12. Liza says:

    It doesn’t matter if US presence in Syria is illegal or not. Congress? Constitution? Elections? What’s that? Standard-issue politics don’t work any more. Yes, Bush was right: The Constitution is nothing but a piece of paper. You need the right kind of populace to back it up – and it doesn’t appear to exist any more. Beer, porn, sports and general stupidity are the order of the day.

  13. British and Israel planned Syria regime change

    • Replies: @chris
  14. ” And then there is one other little complication, which is that the United States presence in Syria is completely illegal both under international law and under the U.S. government’s War Powers Act. ”

    Since when was Washington bothered by laws, international, or national ?
    Bush jr formulated it quite clearly ‘who is not with us is against us (US)’.

    Anyone sees that with Turkey becoming an Islamic state led by a dictator the western, USA/Israel, clash with Muslims is escalating.
    Putin does not like Muslims, trouble with them in Russia, but giving away Syria and Iran to the west, for him strategically impossible.
    And he most certainly has China as a still silent partner.

    So w’re again having an interesting situation, Russian bases, naval and on the ground, in W Syria, USA presence in the north east.
    A USA presence detested by Turkey, Kurds claim a third of present Turkey.
    What interest the USA has in NE Syria is beyond my comprehension, same as why there must be a regime change in Damascus.

    I can see only interests, perceived interests, by Israel, the effort to destabilise the whole region.
    Already in 1955 or so a USA diplomat stated in a speech that Israel should behave as a small ME state, not as the headquarters of an international group.
    Abba Eban, ‘An Autobiography’, 1977, New York

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @anonymous
  15. @Cloak And Dagger

    Who can dissolve the highest authority ?

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  16. LondonBob says:

    Looks like the usual crowd has populated the White House, so the US remains a country that needs to be contained. Perhaps Europe is finally tiring of the endless chaos on our borders.

  17. Amomynous says:

    Since the federal administration is obviously breaking a rather significant law plus violating the constitution in conducting an invasion of another country not authorised in any way by congress, can it not be sued in court by an American citizen or group of citizens? Does no citizen have the standing to take the issue directly to the Supreme Court? Is no organization with money willing to undertake such an effort? Or does the constitution and the laws drafted under it mean absolutely nothing?

    A significant number of readers must be lawyers. What’s the hangup? Only the three co-equal branches of the government can challenge one another, leaving out the citizenry? How is that not despotism, just shared amongst an insider elite? I’d love to see an alliance of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich extract a court order against the other two branches to cease and desist on most of these illicit wars of aggression and crimes against humanity. And if they defy the court, then we’ll have us a jolly old constitutional crisis of epic proportions, which many think is badly needed.

  18. Realist says:

    “Why does Washington hate Bashar al-Assad?”

    Because Israel wants him gone.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  19. itchyvet says:

    Why Does Washington Hate Assad ????
    I would have thought that was easy to answer, Washington “Hates” anyone who has the termity to stand up to them, and refuse to be bullied to do their bidding.
    Any nation that does this, demonstrates to other nations, that Washington is not as tough or fearful as it makes out to be, thus any such nation needs to be taught a lesson, and if that means bombing them back to the stone age, contrary to all the Laws on the planet, tough, so be it.
    Of course when Washington then does go ahead and ILLEGALLY wage war on an INNOCENT nation once again, the rest of the World can see with their own eyes what sort of hypocrits the U.S. is and KNOWS that nothing coming out of their mouths is to be believed.
    So in effect, the U.S. Government is the victim of it’s own policies.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  20. Tom Welsh says:

    “Ford actively supported the large demonstrations by anti-regime Syrians inspired by the Arab Spring who were opposed to the al-Assad government and he might even have openly advocated an armed uprising, a bizarre interpretation of what Ambassadors are supposed to do in a foreign country”.

    Au contraire: one of the oldest of international political jokes asks why there will never be a revolution in the USA. Answer: there is no US embassy in Washington.

    Many people all over the world believe that the main purpose of US embassies is to foment instability, provoke disorder, and procure the overthrow of legitimate governments.

  21. Tom Welsh says:

    “…normal diplomatic relations between Damascus and Washington have never been restored”.

    Again, I would submit – in all seriousness – that the US government does not (and has not for many decades) had normal diplomatic relations with any country. Nor does it want to.

    As far as US foreign policy is concerned, foreign countries can be divided into a few categories. There is Israel, which gives orders that must always be obeyed, regardless of the effect on US interests. There are “allies” (which means “slaves”); resource providers (countries too weak to prevent their wealth being steadily pumped out by American corporations); and “enemies” or “adversaries” or “antagonists” (anyone who refuses to be bossed about by Washington, especially if they can defend themselves).

    It has been accurately observed that Washington has no requirement for diplomats. Its ambassadors and other emissaries have only one mode: threats. And Israel does not usually deal with the USA through diplomatic channels. Instead, it issues orders directly to the President and Congress.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  22. Tom Welsh says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    A splendid idea; which is why it was not included in the Constitution, and will never be added to it.

    • Replies: @David
  23. Kiza says:

    It should be obvious that Trump will be worse on Syria than Obama, who made Syria the lowest ring of Hell (for example, US moderates eating hearts of killed Syrian soldiers), but never intervened in Syria with large number of boots on the ground. Under the pressure of his masters Trump will probably try to intervene, especially if he could get the Saudis to pay for it as usual: Israel orders a US military intervention and Saudis financially underwrite it, that is pay for it, as for the attack on Iraq. The US slaves always oblige. But the Saudis are even more bankrupt at the moment than US and preoccupied with reducing the size of the “royal family”.

    As I said many times – the new motto is Make America (Israeli) Garbage Again.

    • Replies: @mr meener
  24. Syria is the home of one of the oldest and largest Christian denominations in the Middle East. Some of whom claim to be able to speak the language spoken by Jesus Christ two thousand years ago. They are also Dr. Assad’s most loyal and fiercest supporters because of Dr. Assad’s secular government. One would assume that Christian America, particularly the Evangelicals, would value and want to protect such Christian roots over the head-chopping Takfiris favoured by Israel and Saudi Arabia. Such is the maniacal world of Washington under the yoke of the Zionist Neo-Cons. Thank you Mr. Giraldi!

    • Replies: @polskijoe
  25. The maneuver is part of a broader plan to restructure Syria to suit the usual crop of neocon geniuses in Washington that have slithered their way back into the White House…

    While there’s little doubt they slither, they haven’t slithered back because the SOBs never left.

    Their ilk have been infesting and undermining the USA since it was born. The blood and treasure of the USA were used, in fact, in the interests of those who want to control the world through humiliation, theft, terror and chaos.

    Follow the tracks of empire and one can still see traces of their hideous behavior all over the world, and that largely explains why there are so many “sh!tholes” around the world today, the US among them.

    Brief summary here (8 short pages).:

    https://ia600906.us.archive.org/8/items/JewsAndTheBritishEmpire/The%20Jews%20and%20the%20British%20Empire.pdf

    Both Christianity and Islam were no doubt essentially attempts to break out from under their yoke in fact.

    • Replies: @Wade
    , @Druid
    , @Paranam Kid
  26. @Amomynous

    Non-justiciable political controversy.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  27. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Democratic Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia has demanded that no military initiatives in Syria be undertaken without a Senate vote.

    I imagine if the Killer Queen had managed to steal the WH and was raising all sorts of Hell in Syria, Timmy would be cheering her on.

    It’s no secret who controls the insane US foreign policy, a toxic approach that doesn’t MAGA, but does secure Israel’s future at Americans expense.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @WJ
    , @RadicalCenter
  28. @LondonBob

    Europe is just the name of a continent.
    There alas is a EU bureaucrcy, that has opinions.
    That this EU in no way represents the European peoples, not even the German, was clear yesterday.
    The SPD, Germany’s dwindling socialist party, now led by bookbinder Schulz, voted on cooperation with the party still led by physicist Merkel, also a great economist.
    The SPD voted for cooperation, something of 300 votes against, and 350 votes for.
    Those that voted against did not want another four years Merkel.
    Macron, in a fit of honesty, said a few days ago ‘that if in France a referendum would be held about the EU, the majority would vote for Frexit’.
    It is frightenening how the peoples of Europe become more and more split on anything.

    http://politiek.tpo.nl/2018/01/23/you-hate-social-media-because-too-much-extremism-msm-says-so/

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  29. @EliteCommInc.

    There are concerns about Iran

    Yes, the “concern” is that they are not yet completely under the boot heels of our masters.

    Any “concerns” beyond that are bulls!t, straight from the premier sh!tholes of the world, Israel and its butt-boy, the USA.

    • Replies: @Herman Stottmann
    , @Kolo
  30. Jake says:

    The Israeli-Saudi alliance is one guaranteed to produce needless new chaos. The US would back whatever Israel wants because of the nation’s core culture: WASP culture is the product of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy.

    And when the Israelis turned to the Saudis, they tickled the deep hearts of all kinds of WASP Elites. By the Victorian era, the pro-Semitism of British Elite WASP culture had begun showing much love for Arabs and Islam. The Israeli-Saudi alliance brings together the two halves of WASP pro-Semitism. It is a Win-Win for all the many pro-Semitic WASP Elites.

    Those who persist in seeing Israel as the poodle that somehow manages to order around the giant, blood-thirsty mastiff simply have no idea of the reality of the relationship. Israel does not trick, nor does it whine and beg, Americans to do Israel’s nutty will. Israel is acting out the pro-Jewishness that WASP Elites love, that is at the very heart of the culture, and has been back to its Judaizing heretical source.

    You cannot solve the ‘Jewish problem’ without also solving the ‘WASP problem.’

  31. @Amomynous

    All this is happening because Arabs did kill grandson of the prophet.
    Or not?

  32. @Tom Welsh

    And Israel does not usually deal with the USA through diplomatic channels. Instead, it issues orders directly to the President and Congress.

    Excellent point in a fine comment.

    Again, I would submit – in all seriousness – that the US government does not (and has not for many decades) had normal diplomatic relations with any country.

    Americans ought to realize, and think about, the fact that the US did not have diplomatic relations with the USSR from the Bolshie (Oct) Rev in 1917 until FDR recognized it in 1933, and by that time it was well known to be a brutal slave and police state and had killed millions of its own. In fact Stalin’s Holodomor mass starvation of Ukrainians had just ended resulting in the deaths of 7 – 10 million in 1932- 1933.

    The Nazis had just come into power and would not be a force to be reckoned with for some time.

    American ought to spend a few minutes thinking about that if they haven’t already.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @mr meener
  33. @whyamihere

    You idiot, there was a civil war going on, one forced on the Syrian government by outside forces.

    • Agree: chris
    • Replies: @Parbes
    , @polskijoe
  34. I guess the neocons are still pissed that Syrian AAA took down two US Navy jets in 1983. They’re also pissed that Iran humiliated them by taking down the station in Tehran, as well as taking out a number of our assets in the region.

    What puzzles me about Israel is that they know that both Syria and Iran are relatively tolerant of jews in their countries (two largest middle-east enclaves outside of Israel itself), while KSA is completely intolerant of jews but nevertheless a seemingly suitable ally. Go figure.

  35. @jilles dykstra

    Shame that SPD vote wasn’t a secret ballot. I don’t know what scares the leadership more: Losing their limos and perks, or losing many more voters to AfK and FDP in a new election.

  36. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Thus sayeth the robed as it suits their institutional role and interests.

    The same tribunal, however, can redefine marriage on a 5-4 vote, tell Florida how to conduct elections, determine when life begins in the womb, etc.

    If, since Marbury v. Madison, the Supreme Court is the supposed arbiter of what is authorized by the Constitution, then why shy from addressing a direct violation of its explicit warmaking provision?

    Your reply may have tamped down Amomynous, but the mere incantation of the penumbralators themselves is not much of an answer.

    My hunch is that you’re a lawyer who graduated from an American law school.

  37. The United States has no coherent policy, nor any actual national interest in remaining in Syria…

    The task of preventing the inevitable coalition of Muslim forces from forming is Sisyphean. We will abandon it when our own troubles overwhelm us. The rest of the world does not care.

    I do recall from my Bible-reading, church-going days words about a stone too heavy to move. People should be careful what they wish for.

  38. Che Guava says:

    The timing of publication of this good piece by the great Mr. Giraldi here is odd.

    The Turks are already attacking northern Syria in the area where the USA was trying to set up a stupid border force, apparently Turks are using jihadi forces previously trained by the USA, since they are using the same name.

    Operation Maximum Havoc?

    As I was pointing out abt. two years ago, it is easy to find testimonials to Dr. Bashar Assad’s skills and kindness as an opthalmologist when he had a practise in London, in British gutter tabloids (their ‘resposible’ press would never reporting such things).

    This whole thing is the new nadir for Israel’s ‘Let’s you fight them’mentality. Backfiring now that creepy Sultan Erdogan is attacking Kurdish forces long cultivated by Israel.

    To me, the logical solution would have been a unitary Syrian state with restored secular govt.

    May it still happen!

    • Replies: @ANON
  39. @Willem

    “Washington” doesn’t think/do ANYTHING. America is a Captive Nation of the Global Jewish Collective which is bent on the destruction of Western civilization.

    • Agree: jacques sheete, Druid
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  40. @whyamihere

    Assad also uses the atomic brainwashing machine that he stole after murdering 6 googleplex innocent survivors at Auschwurst.

  41. David says:
    @Tom Welsh

    I don’t think it’s so great. Who would decide that the provision had been triggered? What if half the country disagreed? How long would it be before eight different congresses claimed sole legitimacy?

    If there were a magic solution to keep the government in check, one that didn’t involve alert and principled citizens, the drafters would likely have thought of it.

  42. @The Alarmist

    What puzzles me about Israel is that they know that both Syria and Iran are relatively tolerant of jews …

    The truth is that Israel, despite the rhetoric, hates “Jews” as well. In fact the Jew-loathing Zio-state of Israel is one of the most “anti-Semitic” gangster organizations in history and was formed, in fact, by non-Semitic atheists who’ve hijacked the victimhood narrative for their own ends.

    The backward retards who run Israel loathe anyone who isn’t under their thumb and that includes “Jews” who assimilate into other countries and cultures as well as the masses of lesser non-goy useless eaters.

    The sh!thole known as Israel is run by a power crazed pack of nut jobs whose biggest talent is destroying anything that they don’t control and, strangely enough (or not), much of what they do control, such as their useful idiots who they toss under the bus when they’ve outlived their usefulness.

    The only way to deal with them is to not deal with them.

  43. @Toby Keith

    “Washington” doesn’t think/do ANYTHING. America is a Captive Nation of the Global Jewish Collective which is bent on the destruction of Western civilization.

    Which it has already accomplished.

    Next step, destroy what’s left and get the goofy goyim to do it!

  44. Israel controls the U.S. gov and the gov does what ever the Israelis tell it to do, and this control was made evident when Israel and the deep state did 911 and got away with, when everyone in the gov knew Israel didit and were afraid to do anything about it, and were even afraid to say jack shit that the Zionist neocons were in on it, that is control in spades.

    So the U.S. was forced into the Mideast wars by Zionist Israel and forced to destroy Iraq and Libya and Syria and Afghanistan for the greater Israel agenda.

    America is an Israeli plantation and we goyim are slaves on this plantation.

    • Replies: @Toby Keith
  45. citing tim kaine, an obama sycophant, as a credible opposition source is rather disingenuous.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  46. @David

    Good comment.

    May I suggest a little tweak to it?

    If there were a magic solution to keep the government in check, one that didn’t involve alert and principled citizens, the drafters would likely have thought of it if they were principled themselves.

    It’s important to realize that it was a set of scum balls who cooked up the constitution and imposed it on the rest of us for their own benefit. They were not principled people; the “anti-federalists” were.

    Those who objected to the imposition of the constitution were not only the ones with any principles at all, but they were correct.

    • Replies: @Ace
  47. The US is so totally under the control of Israel that it is a bit silly to pretend that there is a lot more going on here. Women and homosexuals make up more than a majority of the population, and where they have run things in places like Sparta there was a flurry of military aggressiveness that did not last long. In any pure democracy they will take over given time, hence democracy has limits as a gift to the world. Sparta and Athens blew themselves out in less time than the USA, but the American demise is clearly on the way. Spartan women pushed militarism, shaming men who were on the streets instead of off with their military unit. They made homosexuality central to Sparta’s social life for both men and women. All the Jews who run America need do is ride the contradictions already built in to American life and push the Spartan tendencies already there.

    The central contradiction is between democracy and religion. All religious authority is based on a somewhat scientific approach. Literate men over centuries study history to reveal what patterns have been shown to work best over the long haul. On the other hand democrats believe that truth is self-evident, so to reveal it you just poll everybody. In the present situation regarding Syria the scholars favouring religious authority would make decisions based on study of the situation and a knowledge of what has gone on there throughout history. The democrats would simply poll public opinion to see how much we like the Syrians, and if they are not popular we do whatever is possible to do to screw them. And, when the Jews control your press and are trying to take over that part of the world, naturally you are going to do whatever is in their interest.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Anon-og
  48. Wade says:
    @jacques sheete

    Reading that just makes me despair that all is already lost.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  49. @alvin firpo

    Kaine has been consistent in his demands for a congressional vote on US warmaking – we have to give people credit when they are right

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  50. Joe Hide says:

    While mentally calming to lay the current Syrian events solely on the Trump administration, the reality is uncomfortably mentally complex. Trumps power is limited. He has to make trade-offs with evil powerful influences. While this might be argued as morally and ethically reprehensible, it is practical, realistic, and strategic. Saints seldom provide long-term solutions to political, economic, and military problems. In fact, they usually make things worse. What’s going on in Syria is part of a much much larger strategy of World change.

  51. The Kurds claimed to have already knocked out one Turkish tank.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  52. Is there a message in here somewhere?

    In June 1922, just before the League Council in London bestowed the Palestinean “Mandate” on Britain, the United States Congress passed a joint resolution of both houses, the wording of which was almost identical with that of the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Thereafter the Zionist halter was firmly reaffixed round the neck of American State policy, and though the American voter only realized this, [which he didn't] it became immaterial to him which party prevailed at elections.

    -Douglas Reed, The Controversy of Zion, p302 (~1955)

    https://archive.org/stream/DouglasReedTheControversyOfZion/Douglas%20Reed%20-%20The%20Controversy%20of%20Zion_djvu.txt

  53. @Philip Giraldi

    Kaine has been consistent in his demands for a congressional vote on US warmaking – we have to give people credit when they are right

    We do have to give the proper people credit, but there’s little doubt that he’s pushing for a vote because it’s virtually certain to get approval from that traitorous gang. It’s a move that’ll doubtlessly offer a patina of legitimacy for another destructive, murderous entanglement.

    These people are crafty and we cannot afford to take anything they or their myrmidons do at face value.

    (Of course I’m just a dumb goy paranoid conspiracy theorist!)

    • Replies: @Sherman
  54. Parbes says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    He’s no real “idiot”. Neither are the others of his ilk you see on this and similar websites.

    “WILLING idiot”, maybe – but that’s an entirely different kind of thing.

  55. WJ says:
    @Greg Bacon

    In his debate with Pence, Kaine was drooling over the opportunity to establish No Fly Zone over Syria, as was Pence, so yes, he would have been a shameless cheerleader for intervention in Syria.

    Having said that, it’s good to Dems opposed to war again. We haven’t seen that since before the Iraq Resolution in 2002, where HRC (and many other Dems) cast the vote that arguably cost her the 2008 nomination against BO. Of course Dems loved our mass murder of Serbians over the Kosovo conflict so I suppose it is a pure partisan thing. Bill Clinton also ramped up the Somalia intervention, leading to Blackhawk Down disaster and I don’t recall Dems complaining then either. You really have to go to the Cold War to find the Dems opposed to military action consistently.

  56. Let’s not beat around the bush. We all know this is about Putin. Putin is propping up Assad and is now irreversibly bogged down in Syria. As long as there are US forces in the area, he’s a sitting duck. The US can relaunch the war any time it likes and all Putin can do is choose which sauce he’s going to be eaten with. If he gets into a one-on-one fight with the US, he’s bound to lose and probably lose everything, including Ukraine and maybe even see the Russian Federation disintegrate. If he lets Assad go under, he discredits himself with his elderly Soviet-generation backers at home, which will probably cause him to lose power. Thus, the “secret” for Putin’s American supporters is to persuade their fellow Americans to capitulate to Putin using any pretext they can come up with. And so … The American plan is a ramshackle that won’t work. The Turks are against it. It violates international law. It violates US law. American politicians are against it. Assad is backed by the mighty and irresistible hordes of Russia, Iran, and even the Yellow Peril. The local “bad guys”, Israel and Saudi Arabia are against Assad. Then, contradicting the previous point, US is allied to anti-Israeli terrorists. Assad is immensely popular in Syria. The only alternative to him is chaos. There’s no American interest at stake. That makes eleven different arguments unrelated to each other than by the fact that they all lead to the conclusion that Putin should be allowed to win. That sort of wild “fire in every direction” presentation suggests panic.
    One might also ask why some Americans are so hell bent on persuading their fellow Americans that their country should submit voluntarily and without a fight to a humiliating defeat, probably the most humiliating defeat in their history, a defeat, indeed, which, if it undermines the dollar’s role as world reserve currency, could lead to a Soviet-style implosion in the US itself. That foreigners might want to see such a thing happen is perfectly logical. That Americans might want it to happen seems to fly in the face of the “tribal” nature of the human species.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  57. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Washington and Jews is synonymous.

    • Agree: Z-man
  58. Thoreau says:

    Everything the US does in the Middle East is done on behalf of Israel, with American people’s blood and money.

  59. Doh says:

    When Libya went to court, they made the US cut and run. Remember?

    http://www.icj-cij.org/files/case-related/89/089-19920414-ORD-01-00-EN.pdf

    There was no ICC then, this was the ICJ. Just the prospect of specific precedent addressing US criminality was enough to scare the US government off. The case stopped a US attack.

    Now Syria has an open-and-shut case against armed US attacks in manifest breach of the UN Charter. They can take it to the ICJ. The ICJ can impose reparations, restitution, compensation with interest, or satisfaction. They can even rule on US abuse of veto impunity in the UNSC, as UNSC members demanded in meeting 6300. With the facts formally acknowledged, the ICC can step in and make fugitives of individual US criminals. That’s the unavoidable endgame, mate in 2. We’ll get there. When the time is right.

  60. Wally says:
    @whyamihere

    IOW, you, a hasbarist, has no proof and are just reciting the Israeli mandated lines.

    “We can force through any lie. It just has to be big enough so that a normal person says, ‘Well that cannot be a lie!’. Then the lie cannot be recognized as such. And the lie has to be repeated continuously. Then it is believed and is powerful because it is the belief in a ‘truth.’”

    - from ‘Propaganda’, by Zionist Jew Edward Bernays

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  61. MarkinLA says:
    @anonymous

    The courts are screwy in many ways. My understanding is that the case would likely be thrown out because the plaintiff (who ever that may be) does not have “standing” to bring such a case. Think of the case and who would bring it and what are the “damages”. Maybe if the draft were brought back and some draftee were to sue it might get a preliminary hearing in a US District Court.

    In the normal course of action, an individual can’t just simply bring a case because he thinks a law is unconstitutional. He has to be “harmed” in some way and is using the unconstitutionality of the law as a defense.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Carroll Price
  62. @Jake

    WASP “elites” exercise no independent political power in America. Such assertions are merely Jewish blame-deflecting.

    • Replies: @joe webb
  63. Renoman says:

    No doubt some consider him a brutal Dictator and I’m sure he has his moments but ten years ago Syria was a beautiful peaceful Country with Electricity, sewage systems, healthcare, schools, homes and relative religious freedom. Just look at what the Arabs, the Americans and the Jews have done! Filthy criminals.

    • Agree: RobinG
    • Replies: @Ace
  64. @The Alarmist

    It is Anti-Semitic to resist Jewish domination.

  65. @DESERT FOX

    Well, start boycotting the consumer cartels that fuel their political machine.
    There isn’t a one of you who doesn’t ELECTIVELY send them at least $500/month for china-junk, “entertainment” and shiny things.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  66. @The Alarmist

    Syria and Iran are relatively tolerant of jews in their countries (two largest middle-east enclaves outside of Israel itself), while KSA

    Not sure about Syria, but Iran has laws barring Jews from holding public office, as well as loaning money at usury, thus rendering them a relatively harmless minority. Parasites become a problem only after being permitted to run unchecked among the host. Although there’s known and proven methods for controlling parasites, to my limited knowledge Iran appears to be the only country currently taking steps in that direction.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @Jo Jones
  67. KA says:

    Not that long ago, any suspicion of the existence e of the difference between stated and unstated mission or between what said and what kept concealed , would have been rejected as Conspiracy Theory by liberal and Conservative votaries of the empire.

    Now it is so much clearly thrown into the darker relief by the unaraveling of the realities for everybody to notice, it is no longer the case.

    1Nikolaos van Dam, a former Dutch ambassador to Iraq and a scholar of the Middle East, said that the Trump administration was supporting the Syrian Kurds “against the explicit wishes of Turkey” because it wanted to keep a foothold in Syria after ISIS collapses. But he warned that this approach was unlikely to succeed if Mr. Assad stayed in power. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/22/world/middleeast/whats-behind-turkeys-attack-on-syrias-kurds.html The United States, some analysts said, needs to make a better case to the Turkish government for why the American alliance with the Syrian Kurds will most likely outlast the war against the Islamic State.
    2
    “We told the Turks that the Kurds were temporary, tactical, and transactional to defeat ISIS,” said James F. Jeffrey, a former American ambassador to Turkey and Iraq. “Now we need them to contain Iran.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/22/world/middleeast/turkey-syria-kurds-us.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fworld&action=click&contentCollection=world&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront

    • Replies: @Art
  68. @jilles dykstra

    Who can dissolve the highest authority ?

    Congress is not the highest authority – they are co-equal to the executive and the judiciary. In this case, I would have nominated the judiciary to decide about the dissolution, and the executive to bring out the broom and sweep them off the premises.

  69. @David

    Who would decide that the provision had been triggered? What if half the country disagreed?

    The judiciary would, based on a suit brought to it by the citizenry.

    If there were a magic solution to keep the government in check, one that didn’t involve alert and principled citizens, the drafters would likely have thought of it.

    The drafters didn’t think of everything, nor did they expect themselves to do so, which is why they allowed for amendments to the constitution. That remains a possibility for the states to enact (albeit with great difficulty).

  70. “Prudent practitioners of terrorism—the Soviet Union, Egypt under Gamal Nasser, Syria, contemporary Iran—have kept their sponsorship within the bounds of their Euro-American and Israeli victims’ tolerance.”

    https://amgreatness.com/2017/11/12/reflections-on-terrorism-idiots-in-paradise/

    • Replies: @anon
  71. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA

    Ah, yes, standing – the other beloved judicial punt.

    Are you likewise a lawyer educated here?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  72. @EliteCommInc.

    The WPA was an invention of to curb any attempt by Pres Nixon

    I just used the WPA as an example of a responsibility entrusted to congress (and long after the founders drafted anything). A more egregious failure is upholding the Symington Amendment to the FSA of 1961, which bans U.S. economic, and military assistance, and export credits to countries that deliver or receive, acquire or transfer nuclear enrichment technology when they do not comply with IAEA regulations and inspections, and now contained in Section 101 of the Arms Export Control Act.

    This would preclude any aid to Israel.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  73. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Rarely used but quite apropos, the “Writ of Mandamus.” It requires an incumbent office holder to actually uphold the laws he/she has sworn to uphold.

    • Replies: @Macon Richardson
  74. @MarkinLA

    Maybe if the draft were brought back and some draftee were to sue it might get a preliminary hearing in a US District Court.

    The 13th amendment barring involuntary servitude was effectively made null and void by various Selective Draft Law Cases (specifically Aver vs US) decided by the US Supreme Court, circa 1917.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Draft_Law_Cases

  75. In my opinion, US forces are in Syria (on Israel’s orders) primarily for the purpose of blocking the flow of advanced Iranian weapons reaching Hezbollah via the Shia Crescent extending from Iran across northern Syria and into Lebanon. Although Assad had been an irritant to Israel for quite some time, the bulls eye Israel painted on his back was not there prior to Hezbollah forces cleaning Israel’s clock following their ill-fated invasion of Lebanon in 2006. Which as you may recall was supposed to be another routine cake-walk into and out of Lebanon for the purpose of intimidating it’s neighbors while buttressing the myth of Israeli invincibility.

    • Replies: @L.K
  76. Blake says:

    Can go back to the Bilderberg 1979 meeting & the “Bernard Lewis Project” – blueprint for the deliberate breakup of Mid east http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec05/AZPartVI.html

    1] “Bernard Lewis Plan” – “blueprint for the deliberate destruction of Syria” from 1979 Bilderburg conference
    2] “Oded Yinon plan” from the 1980′s – balkanization of the surrounding Arab [and non-Arab] nations into smaller & weaker states so as to not be a threat to ‘israel’

  77. @Toby Keith

    I boycott the MSM and call and email my rep and senators about the deep state and the wars and etc. and also CHEMTRAILS ie the gov aerosol spraying of the skies over America.

  78. It’s all turned out well in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya; and is doing so in Syria. Everything depends on perspective, or perceptual optics if you will.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  79. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:

    Anon from TN
    The Empire hates everyone who does not toe its line. It recognizes only two kinds of countries: vassals and enemies. This is suicidal policy, but the US elites are too far gone to reverse this course. A pity: the US could have been a decent country.

  80. Art says:
    @whyamihere

    If you’re going by pure numbers, Assad has killed FAR more people than ISIS/Al Qaeda combined.

    Oh’ — I see Hasbara Central propaganda. Syria was a stable country under Assad. Jew controlled media pumped up the kill numbers.

    Within mere months Assad had the support of the Syrian people against the Saudi Wahhabist ISIS types. He has survived 5 years because of that support.

    Peace not democracy, is the immediate goal in Syria and all those countries. That can never happen with Zionist Israel pulling Washington’s strings. The enemy of ME peace is the US Javanka cabal.

    Think Peace — Art

  81. L.K says:
    @Carroll Price

    You are correct.

    At around 0:50 of the following RT CrossTalk show, CIA Ray McGovern talks about the Elephant in the room defining the ZUS policy in Syria, i.e. Israel.

    If you listen to what he says, it’s exactly what you have pointed out. Hezbollah’s weapons’ supplies, weather made in Syria itself or the ones from Iran, come through Syria.

    ‘B’, a retired German Army officer who has been writing about the war in Syria since it started, wrote back in 2013, citing M. Oren’s interview with the Israeli media Jpost;
    Syria: Who Really Wants Assad To Go?

    Michael Oren, the outgoing Israeli ambassador to the United States, wants to lift any doubt about who really wants Assad to go:
    “The initial message about the Syrian issue was that we always wanted [President] Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran,” he said.
    This was the case, he said, even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated to al-Qaida.

    “We understand that they are pretty bad guys,” he said, adding that this designation did not apply to everyone in the Syrian opposition. “Still, the greatest danger to Israel is by the strategic arc that extends from Tehran, to Damascus to Beirut. And we saw the Assad regime as the keystone in that arc. That is a position we had well before the outbreak of hostilities in Syria. With the outbreak of hostilities we continued to want Assad to go.”

    So Israel, according to Oren, would rather have AlQaeda ruling in Syria than the current secular government. Israel is not the only country that has such desire:
    On other issues, Oren – who has contact in Washington with some ambassadors from Persian Gulf countries – said that that “in the last 64 years there has probably never been a greater confluence of interest between us and several Gulf States. With these Gulf States we have agreements on Syria, on Egypt, on the Palestinian issue. We certainly have agreements on Iran. This is one of those opportunities presented by the Arab Spring.”

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/09/syria-who-really-wants-assad-to-go.html

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  82. MarkinLA says:
    @anonymous

    No just some internet moron who remembers cases like the California Prop 8 case.

  83. Art says:
    @KA

    “We told the Turks that the Kurds were temporary, tactical, and transactional to defeat ISIS,” said James F. Jeffrey, a former American ambassador to Turkey and Iraq. “Now we need them to contain Iran.

    What a gross crime – the Kurds are being used by the US government, which is being used by the Jews for the benefit of Israel.

    It is time for peace in the ME – they need it – we need it.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. When we stop killing Muslims – they will stop killing us – not before.

  84. @bliss_porsena

    You’re correct. If you’re connected in any way to the money pipeline flowing from the Fed to the MIC, things could not possibly be better.

  85. Anon-og says:
    @Mike Garrett

    Fascinating – can you post links regarding women, homosexuals and political power Sparta? So many parallels to our situation that I believe it would make for some fascinating reading.

    • Replies: @Mike Garrett
  86. Kaine is suddenly alarmed, a year after Trump took office. Maybe that’s because he liked seeing Trump follow in Obama’s footsteps. I doubt that he’s actually alarmed now. that would require that he understand what is actually going on and he has never shown any sign that he does.

    Kaine’s entire political career is proof that Virginia elections are decided by vote fraud.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  87. joe webb says:
    @Toby Keith

    Jake is correct in his view that US culture is judaized. This is also true of England. This is largely because of our Protestant religion, formed on the basis of bashing the Catholic Church with Old Testamentism.

    Thus, the Arabs are correct in their claim that the whole thing is a Crusade. Jake is probably indebted to The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, by E. Michael Jones. Congrats one way or the other. All this chat about legality is a waste of time

    Jones is a lay Catholic writer, and his website is Culture Wars.

    His discussion of the Reformation should be must reading for all of us. The Jews were part of it inasmuch as they hated the Catholic Church, etc. The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit is cheaper at Culture Wars. it is a thousand pages of history and also other writings about more current affairs.

    I guess that most folks here at Unz are not religious and consequently are not well informed about American Christianity, Protestant as well as Catholic, which has a Me-Too bizarre luv of the jews nowadays.

    One has to have had experience with actually existing Protestants, especially the more rambunctious types who think Jesus is nigh. The Fundamentalists…for lack of a better term, are a large part of Trump’s constituency.

    Trump I think is an Establishment type Protestant, Episcopalian maybe, but he knows where his votes come from.

    Jewish money and jewish media, and jewish mind control is one thing, but none of it is sufficient to compel the Crusade against Arabs. Religion drives the fundamentals in our wars against the Arabs.

    This in no way lessens my own hardline against Arab, etc. immigration of any sort. They are as stupid as our Blacks…at an average of 84 or so. They are as warlike as Jews as well. These Semites have desert religions…Arab and Jew have warrior gods, not peacenik
    gods like Christians …in the first place.

    Magical thinking is still the norm for most folks, even Whites. Presto, the Magic Reveals…the genie in the bottle fulfills every wish. Live forever! Be young forever! Revolution! It will all be Revealed soon!

    There is not a rational dynamic at hand. It is largely irrational, and here we are…the Jews Grin.

    Joe Webb

    • Agree: polskijoe
  88. @jacques sheete

    Great comment. I thought the same thing when I read that statement. My fear is that enough people will not wake up in time to save our nation.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  89. joe webb says:
    @Jake

    right. see my comment down below to Toby Keith. # 87

    The Arabists….a very interesting deviation from the pro-jewish character of Anglo-American views.
    These New England wasps went to Araby to convert, but failing that stuck around in service to their altruism…white. They founded what became the American University in Beirut about 1850. They were recruited by State Dept when no one else around spoke Arabic. They were pro-Arab.

    Kissinger got rid of them and the rest is jewish history.

    The fact that American wasps could like the Arabs, is interesting. It is a case of biology (white temperaments as fairly loving compared to Other races’s temperaments) overcoming religious fanatacism.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @polskijoe
  90. @Twodees Partain

    Sorry but you are not correct. I am no fan of Kaine or of either political party but Kaine has indeed been pressing for a war vote for the past two years, also under Obama. Even if he gets nearly everything else wrong, he is right on this issue for constitutional reasons, which is not to suggest that congress would do anything but vote “yes.”

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Twodees Partain
  91. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @John Q Public

    “that Islam is irrelevant to the perpetrator’s “extremism.” Every U.S president since George W. Bush has assured Americans that Islam is “the religion of peace.”

    It is as meaningless as is the claims of America having been a force of decency honesty and openness
    If those claims by Islamic texts have numbed the reaction of the Muslims to the atrocities committed in its name, so has the claim of America being exceptional, noble,democratic, and ideal only with millions times worst aftermath following any and each of the American forays .

    The name of the site- AMERICAN F+GREATNESS- says it all

  92. joe webb says:

    Whatever my earlier criticisms of Geraldi, I withdraw all of them and thank him for his good work.
    Joe Webb

  93. Sherman says:
    @jacques sheete

    “Of course I’m just a dumb goy paranoid conspiracy theorist!”

    Pretty accurate, but you should add the words “insane”, “loser” and “lonely” in your description of yourself.

    Sherm

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @jacques sheete
  94. L.K says:

    Julian Assange: US & Israel Planned To Overthrow Assad In 2006
    Cables reveal that before the beginning of the Syrian revolt and civil war, the United States hoped to overthrow Assad and create strife between Shiite and Sunni Muslims.

    by Kit O’Connell

    Speaking from Ecuador’s embassy in London, Julian Assange revealed that the United States planned to overthrow the Syrian government as far back as 2006, several years before the start of the current crisis. …
    The United States and its allies in the Middle East, including Turkey and Israel, have been frequently accused of contributing to the ongoing destabilization of Syria in the wake of the uprising and subsequent civil war which began in 2011. But according to cables from the WikiLeaks archive, discussed in the Syria chapter of Assange’s book, plans to deliberately destabilize the region go back at least five years further. …
    WikiLeaks cables reveal that these plans came from the Israeli government, and show that the U.S. government intended to work with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and Egypt to encourage the breakdown of the Assad regime as a way of also weakening Iran and Hezbollah.

    “[I]f Syria sufficiently destabilized, it might be in a position where it can keep the Golan Heights forever, or even advance that territory,” Assange said.

    According to Assange, the cable illuminates how the current Syrian crisis reflects U.S. influence on the Middle East, particularly the ways it has used its allies to put pressure on the country. “Part of the problem in Syria is that you have a number of US allies surrounding it, principally Saudi and Qatar, that are funneling in weapons,” Assange noted, adding that it shows how the U.S. uses its over 100 army bases and network of embassies to further its imperialist interests.

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/julian-assange-us-israel-planned-to-overthrow-assad-in-2006/209493/

  95. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I guess dictators like Assad get too accustomed to having everyone around them at their beck and call and become oblivious to reality. An amusing side effect are the bizarre sartorial tastes of, say, Kim Jong Il, Saparmurat Niyazov or Muamar Qadafi. At least Assad got rid of that Hitler moustache.

    But maybe it was too much to expect that Assad would realize that the Golan is gone for good and that his terrorism games are little more than an annoyance for the Israeli war machine. I wonder if Assad even knows how much he is outclassed militarily, technologically, and—frankly—civilizationally.

    Upping the moustache game was too little, too late. The guy had it coming. Vae victis!

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Kolo
  96. Virgile says:

    Bashar al Assad is the only Arab leader to tell Israel that until they change their apartheid policy towards the Palestinians and stop occupying Arab lands, he will do all he can to make their life difficult. He is the only Arab leader who is not deterred by the enormous military power of the USA and its arrogance.
    The USA wants Arab leaders to be obedient and passive. Bashar Al Assad like Gamal Abdel Nasser is not. That is why they want to destroy him, like they want to destroy Iran religious leader and other leaders who just say NO.
    After 7 years they have created a humanitarian catastrophe, they have destroyed the country, had hundred of thousands killed, millions displaced but Bashar al Assad and the Syrians are still standing and refuse to bow.
    Despite the powerful pro-zionist propaganda, together with Hezbollah leader Nasrallah, Bahar al Assad may be seen as heroic as David facing Goliath

    • Replies: @Kolo
  97. Sean says:

    The US could have demanded the attack stop or else, but it hasn’t. So the US does not seem to be acting as if it wants to preserve its influence and assets in Syria. Turkey is taking the US reaction as a green light.

  98. @Anon-og

    There are several web sites out there that discuss Sparta in some detail. A couple of years ago I bought a book of photographs about Afghanistan with a separate text volume that you might find interesting if you appreciated this comment. It is called Afghan Gold, and was printed by the famous German printer Steidl.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  99. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    To me, the logical solution would have been a unitary Syrian state with restored secular govt.
    May it still happen!

    Moshe Ya’alon,
    Israel Defense Minister,
    with Aaron David Miller, March 2016,
    Wilson Center [Zionist Occupied Territory, Jane Harman, Proconsul]

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?406449-1/israeli-defense-minister-moshe-yaalon-remarks&start=2461

    @ 41 min:

    If I have to think about any kind of psychological situation in Syria as well as in Iraq, we have the two Kurdish sectors in Iraq and Syria.
    The only way that we can live is to have a kind of federation. There is no other way to unify Syria.
    Also, I’m talking about strategy to unify Syria through Bashar Al Assad or someone else, leading Syria. No chance! Wishful thinking!
    And to talk about a kind of federation, we have already constrained [inaudible] Bashar Al Assad — he controls today only 30% of his former territory. That’s it.

    We have seen a Kurdistan already: we know the turks are not happy with it but in the end, there is a Kurdish autonomy in Syria, there is a Kurdish autonomy in Iraq. We might think about a Kurdistan in Syria; they might cooperate with the regime as they do now. The problem is when it comes to the Sunnis, we have DAESH, Jabat al Nusra, Al Qaeda followers, Muslim Brotherhood elements. [inaudible]

    So first of all, let’s find a way to have a kind of federation or whatever, let’s also agree to have this kind of federation and then fighting the other or whatever. The problem is that there are so many contradictory interests regarding the situation in Syria.
    As an example, there are those who support Bashar Al Assad’s regime, like Iran, Hezbollah, Russia — today, with its intervention in Syria. And even western parties first of all believing Iran should be a central part of the settlement or the solution as I mentioned earlier.
    So —the Kurds demonstrated their capabilities to fight DAESH, when they were supported. Why not support other moderates in Syria, like Sunni moderates, to fight for their cause?
    Most of them were ignored. Western parties decided to sit on the fence and the Kurds in Syria were defeated by DAESH [inaudible] to the point that it started to get support. And then you have to settle this contradictory interest with Turkey. Saudi Arabia its own interest.
    Yet there is a need for different grand strategy regarding Syria.
    But the idea to unify Syria back, to become as it was in the past is wishful thinking.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  100. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Herman Stottmann

    Those who think the federal government shutdown precipitated by Chuck “Israel’s Shomer” Schumer was about DACA, review the tactics used to gain mass approval of Federal Reserve act — The DACA gambit might not be a precise match but the same cunning:

    The goal of the DACA-linked shutdown followed by quick re-open , seemingly a loss for Schumer, was really about getting the people of USA to say, WE NEED TO FUND MILITARY, we need a massive military.

    Why do we need a massive military?

    US economy depends on defense spending, yes, and defense contractors have powerful lobbies, yes.

    But the wars this massive military fights are Israel’s wars.

    Israelis operate deep within all levels of US Defense systems and ‘homeland security,’

    If NSA and other spy agencies spy on everything Americans say, do, spend, think, etc., so does Israel know.

    Buy a new iPhone!
    Don’t forget that FIT bracelet: Israel wants to know whose healthy and who’s not, and where you live, who you meet, what you say.

    SAMISDAT!

  101. @anonymous

    Your hunch is right and MarkinLa’s comment on standing is quite good. I’ve been disgusted by Supreme Court decisions beginning in the 1950s and continuing until today, but I didn’t feel like writing a long post on “non-justiciable political controversies.”

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  102. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Donald Trump administration is 100% neocon. Save Syria, impeach Trump? Wouldn’t make a difference, but it would make for riveting entertainment.

    Trump actor did everything he was supposed to: sabre dance for Lockheed Martin in the pre-coup House of Saud, launched a flurry of Raytheon into a Syrian airfiled and has had his three stooges: Mattis, McMaster and Tillerson variously prance like arms lobbyists while it’s been revealed he fucked a porn star but good when his Euro-bride was pregnant.

    Evangelicals have grown weary of the profound immorality. All the propagandists have walked back their adulation of the mafia realtor from the time of the rigged referendum, Paul Craig Roberts included.

    Conclusion? To distract from the usual imperial movements in Syria, we need an impeachment. It changes nothing but is superior entertainment – something to consume Americans into the spring.

  103. @L.K

    Imagine!!!! Jew agent provocateur know how to copy and paste.

    • Troll: RobinG
  104. L.K says:

    In the dirty proxy war against Syria, huge numbers of Syrian “rebels” were recruited from over 80 different countries.

    A few days ago I saw the case of a Nusra field commander from Maldives(!) who got kia in one of the Syrian fronts.
    Even the British sponsored disinfo one man outfit pompously called SOHR, has recently admitted that while the vast majority of fatalities on the Government side are from Syria, a slight majority of the dead ‘rebels’ is actually made up of non Syrians… sponsored by the ZUS led coalition… such is the nature of the “civil” war in Syria.
    Of the thousands of jihadists from Tunisia, some who survived have returned disillusioned… others have reported on the many dirty tactics used in Syria, in order to cause sectarian strife.

    Tunisian ex-Jihadist tells you why he stopped fighting alongside the FSA

    Tunisian Jihadist Admits We Destroyed & Desecrated Mosques in Syria to Cause Defections in Army

  105. chris says:
    @Anonymous

    if he did, then that’s another great reason to be grateful to him for.

  106. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    ALL of the 911 Wars have been to implement ERETZ ISRAEL- nothing else. Not pipelines, not oil, not refugees or WMDs. The triumph by the MSM- and now totally infiltrated and neutered “alt media”- is to call the Iraq Wmd sequel of invading Syria w/ foreign mercenary death squads as a “civil war”.
    Syria was under INTENSE attack as the next ‘domino’ in 2003 already and the first fake ‘Arab Spring’ was in 2005; kicked off by “Lebanon’s 911″: the car bombing of PM Rafiq Hariri to frame Syria and overthrow its govt. WHERE ARE YOUR MEMORIES?? Are y’all dead?

    http://www.arkofcrisis.com/id51.html

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  107. chris says:
    @Hubbard

    And then there is one other little complication, which is that the United States presence in Syria is completely illegal both under international law and under the U.S. government’s War Powers Act.

    ‘Laws ??? We don’t need no stinkin laws !’

  108. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    Vae victis!

    Don’t you mean Israel Heil?

    At least Assad got rid of that Hitler moustache.

    Assad had a Hitler moustache? That’s kinda new to me.

  109. L.K says:

    From the article:
    …to include renewed demands that the country’s President Bashar al-Assad “must go,” reiterated by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson last Wednesday. He said “But let us be clear: The United States will maintain a military presence in Syria, focused on ensuring ISIS cannot re-emerge.”

    Right. The ZUS coalition created ISIS – and the other Takfiri militias, like Nusra – as a way to achieve its goals in Syria and Iraq. The obvious ploy also focuses entirely on ISIS, while conveniently ignoring the other Takfiri militias, which are generally referred to as ‘rebels”…
    The reality is that ISIS, Al Qaeda in Syria(Nusra) & all other Salafist groups which were, from day one, the real “rebel” fighting forces on the ground, were created/funded and armed by the US coalition, in order to overthrow the Syrian government & justify US meddling in Iraq and Syria

    The Nusra Front( Al Qaeda in Syria), now HTS, was an Al Qaeda in Iraq splinter group, just like ISIS. They are the de facto rulers in Idlib province, which they & their allies overran in the Spring of 2015.
    Remember that when you hear the msm presstitutes going on about the Syrian “regime” attack on the poor rebels in Idlib.

    From Prof. Anderson’s book “The Dirty War on Syria”, we read:

    In mid-2012, US intelligence reported two important facts about the violence in Syria.
    Firstly, most of the armed ‘insurgency’ was being driven by extremist al Qaeda groups, and second, the sectarian aim of those groups was ‘exactly’ what the US and its allies wanted.
    The DIA(Defense Intelligence Agency) wrote:
    ‘The Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria … There is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers [The West, Gulf monarchies and Turkey] to the [Syrian] opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime’ (DIA 2012).
    The US also observed (and certainly did not stop) the channelling of arms from Benghazi in Libya to ‘al Qaeda groups’ in Syria, in August 2012.

    New Evidence US Backed ISIS – Ron Paul

    Ex-DIA boss Michael Flynn: White House took “willful decision” to fund, train Syria Islamists ISIS

  110. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Kenny

    Putin didn’t create any homeless encampments in the USA.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  111. chris says:
    @Jon Halpenny

    Eric Margolis was telling Scott Horton in 2014 that his contacts in the French Secret Service told him they were active in Syria, trying to help the Rebels (Al Qaeda) take down the Assad regime back then ! (so the guy in the video is leaving the French participation out of his story)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  112. voltaire says:

    After reading the many comment here that could be considered anti-Israel, I started wondering just how many posters here are using methods to make themselves truly anonymous online so that they are not susceptible to being traced by the ever diligent supporters of Israel who are active worldwide.

    At an absolute minimum, you should only be posting here using the Tor browser:

    https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html#warning

    And, you should also be using VPN (virtual private network) software installed on your computer. The good VPN programs are, by the way, are not free. (I would be be VERY suspicious of those that are given away without charge). I personally use Windscribe. There are many others also available.

    Also, don’t make yourself easily traceable by getting lazy and using a posting name that you use on less reliable websites elsewhere.

    Don”t be lax about your own security. Otherwise you might, at a minimum, end up losing your job (or friends) over comments made here or in a worse case scenario experience an unwelcome knock on you front door at night if things continue to deteriorate..

    Here are some other privacy tools from the Electronic Frontier website:

    https://www.eff.org/pages/tools

  113. Ace says:
    @jacques sheete

    The Founders didn’t “impose” the Constitution on anyone.

  114. El Dato says:
    @Chris Mallory

    …with US ordinance, I suppose.

    (The whole region sounds like a fresh market for US antitank missiles recently delivered to Ukraine. “Lord of War II: Syrian Job” when?)

    Also, I hear there was another “gas attack in east Ghouta”, conveniently just before the self-selected, non-UN ‘International Partnership against Impunity for the Use of Chemical Weapons’ met in Paris. Tillerson has already unpacked his menacing dick and is waving it around, particularly at Russia.

    Convenient like that last gas attack in Ghouta, just when the UN delegation had arrived at the hotel two blocks or so away.

  115. L.K says:

    Giraldi:

    There is considerable evidence that Bashar al-Assad is actually supported by a large majority of the Syrian people, even among those who would welcome more democracy, because they know the alternative to him is chaos

    This was true early on, even before the nature of the “opposition” became totally clear for all Syrians.

    Even an early Qatari funded poll, Qatar being very heavily involved in arming Wahhabi militants in Syria from the start, discovered exactly that. More recent research indicates Assad’s popularity is much higher now.

    Most Syrians back President Assad, but you’d never know from western media
    by Jonathan Steele

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

  116. renfro says:

    The Donald Trump administration is planning to install a 30,000 strong armed “security force” in northern Syria along the borders with Turkey and Iraq.

    This isn’t about IS….. its about setting up a situation which can lead to an incident with US troops that can be used as a reason to finally oust Assad and to start attacks on Iran.

    • Replies: @Kolo
  117. bluedog says:
    @jacques sheete

    Americans ought to realize, and think about the fact that we have been at war for some 220 years with our own killing fields,both by our own hands and the hands behind the scenes..

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Jo Jones
  118. peterAUS says:
    @voltaire

    There was a decent chat about Internet privacy here several months ago.
    Handle “eagle eye” (if I properly remember) had some good posts there.

    Bottom line, though: there is NO privacy on the Internet if THEY want to get to you.

    Now….if you are really good in networking you can have sniffers and such and see what traffic goes out/in and, with additional hard work go from there. Could get complicated fast though.

    The problem with Tor and/or VPN is very simple: why would you want to use it?
    THEY can see that particular traffic easily and THEN could ask themselves the question above.
    And then you could have a problem: “how about we dig about this guy a bit ?” Of course they can backtrack that packet stream to your physical address.

    And, then: “we are not sure still, how about we put this guy under surveillance?”.
    And THEN you have a big problem.

    Could even get bigger:” well, surveillance didn’t give us anything definite, how about we bring him up for questioning”?
    Etc……………………

    So, while technologically, yes, you can get a pretty decent privacy on the Internet it could create different, more serious, set of problems.

    Hard call.

  119. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @voltaire

    No one is anonymous here. Tor is not going to make you anonymous, the EFF is an industry supported front group that pretends to be pro-privacy but is mostly vapor activism.

    The entire purpose of Unz review and other social media is to capitalize on the fact that most possibilities for privacy don’t exist. If you have a security clearance or work in certain industries you are constantly reminded to avoid social media where the CIA and their associates regularly conduct their operations.

    Let’s get back to it, shall we?

    The Jews hate Assad but they control the US Government so that’s why Israel is really behind the whole Syria war thing. Those neocon guys I tell ya, they really control Trump and the Israelis control too, and they must be using Mossad mind control because Trump was a good guy a little while ago. Man, we’re doomed to destroy Syria because Israel. You can’t trust the guys who are really doing it for Israel’s benefit – instead of supporting the real America like they should. Should we just learn Hebrew?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  120. L.K says:

    Giraldi:

    Hopefully the Syrians, backed by Iran, Russia and China will prevent that from happening and as the U.S. did not directly engage in much of the hard fighting that destroyed ISIS, it thankfully has little leverage over what comes next.

    Indeed.
    Syria – Turks Attack Afrin, U.S. Strategy Fails, Kurds Again Chose The Losing Side

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/01/syria-turks-attack-afrin-us-strategy-fails-kurds-again-chose-the-losing-side-.html

    As for those who truly fought against ISIS; in Iraq, job was largely done by the hastily formed & Iranian backed PMUs. In Syria, by the Syrian army and paramilitaries backed by Russia, Hezbollah & Iran.

    Footage found on dead isis fighter as his battle group was destroyed in combat against Syrian & Hezbollah troops in Eastern Syria, Deir Ezor. Desperate Militants film their own death.

  121. Sean says:

    He didn’t have to, but Obama asked for support for an airstrike on Syria and the country was against it. Even Obama was not that keen. The deep state of the US jdefinately didn’t want to take out Assad. What happens within Syria is relatively unimportant. The US could have stop Turkey with a threat. Turkey got a pass because the US is worried about Jordan’s stability if ME borders get altered by a Kurdish state

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Sean
  122. Wally says: • Website
    @Sherman

    What’s really dumb is that you believe in the scientifically impossible ‘Nazi gas chambers’.
    You believe in millions of allegedly buried Jew corpses of which there has been no actual excavations where those alleged remains can be shown.

    Healthy Jews at Auschwitz ‘liberation’:
    http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/PICS31/66935a.jpg

    http://www.codoh.com

  123. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    Putin didn’t create any homeless encampments in the USA.

    Who knows, who knows. Where there is smoke there is fire etc.

    There should be an enquiry into this, let the facts speak for themselves.

    I’m sure we can find higly paid well-connected individuals who would be willing to work hard on this, as well as representatives who would be willing to take up this issue for a small …. “fee”.

  124. chris says:
    @LondonBob

    Very interesting video Bob, but is Hitchens giving this speech at a hairdresser’s convention ?

    To claim that “idealism in foreign policy (piled up upon idealism)” was what got us into Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan is a bit thick ? Vengeance, cold cunning, willful deception, scaring the masses, and above all, an evil, nefarious plan (which they are still only in the middle of unrolling) to destroy the Middle East is what got us to do this.

    He seems to be a complete tool of the establishment trying to plant the story among students and fool them with the oldest conjuring trick, simply stating an preposterous lie in the hope of getting some of them to swallow it.

    Rifkind of course is a sly, old fox; as it is now emerging, even as he was speaking back then, his government already knew about and had helped further the Steel Dossier, thus assuring himself that “democracy would prevail!” His swipe at Snowden, the whole “debate” is dog and pony show of the establishment; I’m just shocked to see them try to peddle such transparent crap so brazenly. Nice to see some people were yawning at least, but they should have been throwing these scoundrels out on their ears.

    (I don’t mean any of this critique personally toward you or anything, Bob)

  125. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @chris

    All too likely.

    French broadcasters were spamming public opinion with “we must do something” soundbites and ululations from 2012 onwards.

    Syrian expats were less impressed seeing their homeland go up in flames through a collusion of Sarkozy/Hollande governments and various extremist riff-raff (however, in the case of Syria, the riff-raff infestation is a consequence of “the biter bit” as Syria gaily let would-be martyrs into Iraq during the early occupation era)

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/14/france-active-policy-syria-assad-isis-paris-attacks-air-strikes

    In many ways [France's] policy is similar to Britain’s, but France has pushed diplomatically for stronger measures, including a recent proposal for a UN resolution designed to protect civilians from the barrel bombs used by Syrian government forces.

    In 2013, when Assad was accused of using chemical weapons that killed 1,400 people in the Ghouta area near Damascus, Paris called for military intervention but was isolated after the US president, Barack Obama, refused to act despite the breach of what he had earlier declared was a “red line”. Opposition by US Congress and the British parliament reflected a deep reluctance for direct military intervention.

    France has continued to stand firm on the demand that Assad must go if the four-and-a-half-year-long war is to end. Britain, like the US, has been signalling that he could remain in a transitional government for a a few months.

  126. El Dato says:
    @Sean

    The US could have stop Turkey with a threat.

    That ship has likely sailed.

    • Replies: @chris
  127. peterAUS says:
    @Anonymous

    The entire purpose of Unz review and other social media is to capitalize on the fact that most possibilities for privacy don’t exist.

    I am not quit sure I understood this sentence.

    You mean this is, among other things, a “honeypot” to have “alt guys” converge in one place and then get them into …the database ?
    Technically, yes, quite possible.

    Socially/politically, at this stage, well, I just don’t think so.

  128. Thank you, Phil, for all that you do.

  129. RobinG says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Hi Phil,

    Turkish TV reported yesterday that they are “not alone” in their assault of Afrin, but coordinating with the FSA to mop up DAESH pockets. In response to US demands that the Turks conclude their operations quickly, Erdogan stated that they’d be there as long as necessary, and said that the US is in no position to complain – considering how long they’ve been in Afghanistan.

    I’ve long believed that this would be decided on the ground, and prayed for Putin’s success. In 2014, David Swanson and other alleged peace activists were calling for cease-fire and negotiation. This would have guaranteed the dissolution of Syria by giving diplomatic standing to al-Nusra and assorted rebel factions. (This is why I’m not swayed by David’s holier-than-thou grandstanding.)

    You’re sticking with the “Assad’s a ‘brutal dictator’ but he’s the best option” meme. Who says? It seems Assad’s alleged brutality is made from the same tissue as Iraqi WMD, Iranian nuclear threat, Israeli democracy, and maybe even Nazi gas chambers.

    Does the phrase ‘brutal dictator’ have a conveniently vague meaning? Not long ago, Phil Farrah whispered to me a graphic allegation of torture, recounted to him by a Syrian. If true, this was carried out by a sadistic jailer/inquisitor. It was torture designed to kill, so therefore, if there were any purpose beyond sheer sadism, used as a threat on a third party. Do heads of state know the details of these inquisitions? Are US presidents apprised in detail of torture at foreign rendition sites, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, etc.?

    How about security services run amok here in the US? Remember Abner Louima? Bill Clinton was a knave and a criminal, but was he a brutal dictator? Did his domestic policies condone the assault on Louima? Is it important to observe such distinctions? Where they lead to justification of war and mass murder, I’d say YES.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    , @peterAUS
  130. Anon-og says:
    @Mike Garrett

    Thank you, Mike. Much appreciated, you are a studious man as it looks like you have done your homework on me. The photobook looks interesting, will be heartbreaking to see just how much for the worse Afghanistan has turned since I was born there in the late 70s.

  131. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    I think Mr. Hussein and Afez of Assad installed themselves without the US, thanks.

    The more so as the latter was not unfriendly with SovUnion.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @hyperbola
  132. @Cloak And Dagger

    To make the case, you need evidence of the violation(s).

    But neither of those fit the context of circumstance. The AUMF, the Patriot Act and a long list of protocols for the use of force that are being used by the executive branch — are in fact congressional legislation.

    So entangled is the legislation that even if wanted to apply symington, it would have to over ride the newest authorizations used to justify force. Furthermore, Congress is empowered by impeachment for a violation of the law. The reality is that most of Congress is bought in on the use of force, for multiple reasons. Change is going to require an executive who has the strength, willing to stand up to a aggressive foreign policy and or a public fed enough to remove those who are.

    I voted for the current Pres on the basis that he that level of knowledge and if not that courage to stand against needless and damaging foreign interventions. He is a disappointment, in this regard.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  133. Jeremiah says:

    Weeks before this announcement of the BS-Force, the Russian MOD was providing evidence that the US was evacuating ISIS commanders and soldiers to the Kurdish controlled areas for ‘training’.

    Now suddenly the US has found 30,000 ‘pro-democracy rebels’ to organize into this BS-Force.

  134. @RobinG

    Actually I think I said that the proposition that Bashar is a brutal killer of his own people comes largely from hostile sources – the demonstrations in 2011 were, however, definitely put down hard by the authorities…

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @MEexpert
    , @RobinG
  135. peterAUS says:
    @RobinG

    ….if there were any purpose beyond sheer sadism, used as a threat on a third party. Do heads of state know the details of these inquisitions?

    In regimes as Assad’s……….yes, definitely.
    Or, better, they know, in general, what is being done in detail and that it is being done.
    They, of course, don’t know/don’t care about daily/weekly/monthly torture details.

    It’s like a big corporate CEO knowledge of garbage collection in his/her company.

    Even in democracies as US or UK the top leadership knows all about that. They just don’t think about it.
    It’s called “enhanced interrogation”.

    Do top commanders know about kids being blown up by shellfire? Of course. I am sure they know exactly what is that all about.
    But, in reports, briefings…any type of communication….. it’s called “collateral damage”.

    You don’t get into those positions of power if you haven’t got stomach for it.
    Or, in non-democracies, you don’t stay there if you don’t have stomach for it. Somebody will likely replace you..and, then, it’s likely you can get at receiving end of that treatment.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Kolo
  136. @Philip Giraldi

    Philip, pressing for a war vote doesn’t mean that Kaine doesn’t approve of Obama’s desire for regime change in Syria. I can’t compare Kaine’s actions to those of Goode when W was declaring his “war on terror”. That was a stand on Constitutional principle. Kaine hasn’t read the Constitution, apparently. He simply wants to serve Israel.

  137. El Dato says:
    @Anon

    There are now so many rats that Roma crime gangs have been seen using dead ones to intimidate tourists while trying to steal from them.

    Well, Roma are a protected species, can’t do anything about that.

    I suppose the very mild winter (no snow at all I think) has failed to cull the rat population.

    A hot summer, this will be!

    Or maybe it is time to re-read Camus

  138. @Hajji Abdullah

    This is the first time I’ve seen a muslim use “y’all”. I heard a neighbor, who is a Palestinian Arab say, “Oh Lordy” once, but she had lived in the South since she was a child.

  139. @Ace

    Yes, they did. If you’re unaware of how the Constitution was designed and enacted, you should make an effort to learn about it.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  140. voltaire says:

    When I posted my original comment about securing ones computer and protecting ones privacy on the internet (comment # 112), I didn’t realize that I would be getting quite the response that I did.

    Shortly thereafter , two rather revealing (and somewhat panicky) comments came from our resident sayanim, peterAUS (comment # 118) and Anonymous (comment #119). Both tell us in almost identical terms that “there is no privacy on the internet” and then go on to badmouth both the Tor browser and the Electronic Frontier Foundation and its software . Interestingly, these two remarkably similar comments appeared within four minutes of each other which might indicate that Anonymous and peterAUS are either the same person or are working right next to each other.

    When you have the two most prominent Israeli trolls on this site saying that Tor browser doesn’t work and there is no privacy on the internet. this is a sure sure that Tor DOES in fact work and so does VPN software. (Tor, by the way, is “open source” which means its code can be relatively easily checked for spyware by a skilled programmer).

    Apparently the Tor browser and VPNs make peterAUS and Anonymous very nervous indeed only because it will make their work MUCH more difficult. Be aware of this the next time you post using a non Tor browser.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  141. RobinG says:
    @peterAUS

    In much of Europe prostitution is legal, but it can be hard to tell the whores from the Eurotrash.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @iffen
    , @Incitatus
  142. @EliteCommInc.

    To make the case, you need evidence of the violation(s).

    Kinda moot since nobody will bring it up. What is the purpose of our supporting their nuclear ambiguity? How does it serve us?

    All our pols do is game the system.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  143. Druid says:
    @jacques sheete

    Very true. They eventually destroy every place they’re allowed to enter and influence

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  144. @voltaire

    That’s the most unique Hasbara attempt at silencing criticism of Jews I’ve ever seen or heard of. I sincerely hope I don’t have to tell you where you can stick it.

  145. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @RobinG

    The whores charge money for their services, whereas Eurotrash is free (they just enjoy the process, and that’s their reward)

  146. peterAUS says:
    @voltaire

    Not bad.

    Well, you are probably right there. All of it. Got me.

    For those couple of guys here not quite sure that you are right, just this:
    The traffic itself could be safe between nodes in Tor and VPN connection. I am not quite sure it is, though, source code or not. Encryption algorithm and public key exchange could be a tricky matter here.
    Not important actually.

    What is important is that the traffic, as such, is seen from the first ISP router onwards. Hence, it is seen by Five Eyes as “secure traffic”.

    Now, why would an ordinary citizen use “secure traffic”, Tor in particular? THAT could raise a flag I was talking about.
    From raised flag, well……who knows……

    But, well, free will.

  147. @Cloak And Dagger

    I think that is a valid issue. I was intrigued by your comment, so I checked the website of the IAEA, unless I mussed it, there are no outstanding issues between the IAEA and Israel, at least none posted.

    I am concerned that Israel has not signed the NPT. Gere the Syminington matter is a bit hazy. Because it seems that you don’t have to be a signatory as long as one is in compliance in compliance.

    I hope I read that correctly.

    Notes:

    https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/lawsuit-claims-aid-to-nuclear-israel-illegal-under-symington-glenn-amendments/

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  148. @peterAUS

    What is important is that the traffic, as such, is seen from the first ISP router onwards. Hence, it is seen by Five Eyes as “secure traffic”.

    Now, why would an ordinary citizen use “secure traffic”

    Rubbish. Most corporate/enterprise traffic is over a VPN and is secure. I have to use a VPN to read my work mail. I don’t trust Tor, because the NSA has breached it. ‘Brave’ is a better solution: https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/releases/tag/v0.18.23dev.

    Unless you are threatening to commit a crime someone or share child porn, nothing that is said on these fora is of great interest – mostly just noise, unless you are specifically being tracked.

    Only thing you should check is how many days of logs your ISP keeps of VPN clients. Mine keeps it for two days. Companies like Astrill don’t keep any logs at all, so there is no way to trace it back to you. Two days are quite safe.

    So, relax.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  149. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    Warning…”geek alert”. Proceed with caution. The best just skip this.

    Here is the scenario:

    An ordinary citizen, Internet user, with his online profile already known to …..somebody (that’s how privacy on the Internet works)…suddenly starts using Tor (browser) and/or VPN connection.
    Flag up, maybe. Maybe not. A chance.

    From then on a “hack” into the user’s machines. That’s what zero days exploits and such are all about.

    So, true……perhaps the Tor/VNP connection is safe (I don’t believe it but, that’s just me).
    All the rest on your machine and network don’t need to be.

    Sure, you, if you are good (or know somebody who is good and you trust him) you could see the attack and, again, get rid of it. Till next time.

    And, then, maybe just ridding of the exploit raises another flag. So the game escalates.

    Just an idea.

  150. @EliteCommInc.

    I think that is a valid issue. I was intrigued by your comment, so I checked the website of the IAEA, unless I mussed it, there are no outstanding issues between the IAEA and Israel, at least none posted.

    Israel is not a signatory to the IAEA, hence not subject to inspections. Meanwhile it continues to cast aspersions about Iran’s nukes, the latter being a signatory to the IAEA and open to (very thorough) inspections. So, of course, there are no outstanding issues.

    Our congress has taken advantage of the haziness. “when they do not comply with IAEA regulations and inspections”, can be interpreted in a number of ways. Our pols have chosen to interpret it in the way that is of least benefit to us.

    Anyway, this is all moot. There is nothing that will get congress to do anything that inconveniences Israel in the slightest, so an alternative path must be sought.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  151. KA says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    AUMF is American invention to satisfy certain American needs ( being consulted, being acknowledged , not being ignored , taken into confidence ) of the law-makers and activist public of both stripes (
    Republican Democrat ) It is not a law that could be held up in any court of law outside US. It has no validity . AUMF doesn’t give right to the US gov to attack any sovereign country or collapsing country just because some rag heads pops up and says something about IS or Al Qaida. Neither it gives the US the right to invade whenever US feels it’s national interest is at stake or security is threatened .

  152. peterAUS says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Rubbish.

    Could be.

    unless you are specifically being tracked

    Ahm…….

    there is no way to trace it back to you.

    So, relax.

    Yeah.

  153. L.K says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Mr. Giraldi: “the demonstrations in 2011 were, however, definitely put down hard by the authorities…”

    All due respect Mr. Giraldi, I don’t think you have put enough effort into verifying such claims.

    Journalist Sharmine Narwani has, and here are some of the things she found out;

    On March 23, 2011, at the very start of what we now call the ‘Syrian conflict,’ two young men – Sa’er Yahya Merhej and Habeel Anis Dayoub – were gunned down in the southern Syrian city of Daraa.

    Merhej and Dayoub were neither civilians, nor were they in opposition to the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. They were two regular soldiers in the ranks of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA).

    Shot by unknown gunmen, Merhej and Dayoub were the first of eighty-eight soldiers killed throughout Syria in the first month of this conflict– in Daraa, Latakia, Douma, Banyas, Homs, Moadamiyah, Idlib, Harasta, Suweida, Talkalakh and the suburbs of Damascus. ….

    But Merhej and Dayoub’s deaths were ignored. Not a single Western media headline told their story – or that of the other dead soldiers. These deaths simply didn’t line up with the Western ‘narrative’ of the Arab uprisings and did not conform to the policy objectives of Western governments.

    For American policymakers, the “Arab Spring” provided a unique opportunity to unseat the governments of adversary states in the Middle East. Syria, the most important Arab member of the Iran-led ‘Resistance Axis,’ was target number one. [...]”

    Longtime Syrian resident and Dutch priest Father Frans van der Lugt, who was killed in Homs(murdered by Al Nusra) in April 2014, wrote in January 2012:

    “From the start the protest movements were not purely peaceful. From the start I saw armed demonstrators marching along in the protests, who began to shoot at the police first. Very often the violence of the security forces has been a reaction to the brutal violence of the armed rebels.”

    A few months earlier, in September 2011, he had observed:

    “From the start there has been the problem of the armed groups, which are also part of the opposition…The opposition on the street is much stronger than any other opposition. And this opposition is armed and frequently employs brutality and violence, only in order then to blame the government.”

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/narratives-killed-syrian-people/215099/

    “The claim that armed opposition to the government has begun only recently is a complete lie. The killings of soldiers, police and civilians, often in the most brutal circumstances, have been going on virtually since the beginning.” – Professor Jeremy Salt, October 2011, Ankara Turkey, cited in Prof. Anderson’s book ‘The Dirty War on Syria’, Chapter III.

    Under these circumstances, what should the government and the security/military forces have done?

    What would have been the reaction of the ZUSA security forces to “protests” such as the ones described above or in the following video?
    Homs, Syria, 2011: Riot Police (unarmed) shot at, officer killed;

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Kolo
  154. MEexpert says:
    @whyamihere

    since you don’t know why you are here, you better go back to Israel and ask Netanyahu.

  155. MEexpert says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    the demonstrations in 2011 were, however, definitely put down hard by the authorities…

    Just like the demonstrations and protests by “Occupy Wall Street” or protests in Florence, MO against police. No one talks about the protests being brutally put down by the Bahraini rulers with the help of Saudi Arabian Armed forces.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
    , @Ace
  156. FB says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    ‘…It is not Washington who hates Bashar.

    It is stupid Jews like anon, and LK here who hate Bashar…’

    What a retarded comment…

    Thank you Mr. Giraldi for putting the blame squarely at the feet of the pathetic Donald Dump…

    The buck stops at the Shite House…or at least that’s the way it’s supposed to be…but DD is a useless clown who has allowed the neocons to take the driver’s seat…god only knows why…

    As for the ‘Jews’…we note that Dump is already in full genuflection mode from day one…in the direction of Israel…Dump’s own version of Mecca…and certainly that of the ‘Kissinger in the making’ Jared Kushner…

    When will the deplorables wake up…?

    Dump would rather cut off his own nose than to give Israel the cold shoulder it so richly deserves…

  157. @Sherman

    Pretty accurate, but you should add the words “insane”, “loser” and “lonely” in your description of yourself.

    Don’t be so envious; with enough time effort you may rise to the level of one or two of those traits yourself.

    Never give up!

    • Replies: @Art
  158. RobinG says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Of course they did. Like Ferguson, or harder?

    A supposed spark was in Deraa. Some alt-journos (I believe Eva Bartlett spoke about this) say there is no actual proof of the alleged torture of teenagers for their anti-Assad graffiti. There’s lots of poring over evidence vs. testimonials. Same with the “Caesar” photos. I haven’t studied it, but please forgive my skepticism when the track record is so abysmal.

    Here at home, I’ve long been an admirer of Cornel West. [Especially liked his calming influence at the unfortunate spectacle dubbed 'Million Muslim March' a few years ago, and which I may one day cite to Geo as example of stupidity or evil.] But imagine my dismay when West regaled Amy Goodman with a tale of Charlottesville, thanking God that Antifa was there to protect the peaceful Black protesters from the neo-Nazis… who “would have killed us.” Was there a grain of truth to this, even in the sense that it may have been West’s perception? Can you imagine the amount of legwork necessary to get any grasp of reality? Rashomon moments all around.

    At the old boys’ lunch last August, Abdul Aziz Said recounted how US Amb. Ford had come to his home numerous times to “consult” on the insurrection. That was before Ford was recalled and Aziz fled to the green pastures of US academia to continue his spin offensive. Truth was a casualty long before the war began, so as far as “…demonstrations in 2011 …put down hard..”…. Yeah, maybe.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  159. Ben_C says:

    Basically, the “neocons” see this in a similar way as Israel. Since Syria is allies with Iran and Hezbollah, “Assad must go”.

    John Kerry specifically and personally asked Assad to repudiate Iran as an ally in 2009, and Assad refused to do so.

    There are other interests that influence US policy that can’t stand Assad for a lot of other reasons.

    1. Assad is an ally of Russia. I want to point out these people know (including, and especially, Israel) that there is no way in hell ISIS could obtain sophisticated military equipment from Russia, or even Iran; unlike the Assad government.

    2. Syria has good relations with other nations that US foreign policy makers can’t stand, such as: North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba. Remember, Israel bombed Syria because they alleged North Korea was helping them develop nuclear weapons (which Israel allegedly possesses btw…).

    3. US policy makers want puppets, which Assad is clearly fundamentally incapable of being.

    There are other reasons, but these are some of the big ones.

  160. @Ace

    The Founders didn’t “impose” the Constitution on anyone.

    Bless you little one!

    Do you have any evidence for your assertion? If so, I’d love to see it.

    PS: I highly doubt that you know more about it than Nock…

    The Constitution looked fairly good on paper, but it was not a popular document; people were suspicious of it, and suspicious of the enabling legislation that was being erected upon it. There was some ground for this. The Constitution had been laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d’état.

    It had been drafted, in the first place, by men representing special economic interests. Four-fifths of them were public creditors, one-third were land speculators, and one-fifth represented interests in shipping, manufacturing, and merchandising. Most of them were lawyers. Not one of them represented the interest of production — Vilescit origine tali. (the dice were loaded from the start)

    Albert Jay Nock, Liberty vs. the Constitution: The Early Struggle

    mises.org/daily/4254

    • Replies: @Ace
  161. @bluedog

    Americans ought to realize, and think about the fact that we have been at war for some 220 years with our own killing fields,both by our own hands and the hands behind the scenes..

    Most certainly.

    There are many others that could be added to the list, but most people would blow a gasket with what we’ve posted so far.

  162. @Twodees Partain

    Yes, they did. If you’re unaware of how the Constitution was designed and enacted, you should make an effort to learn about it.

    True.

    Unfortunately, as Thomas Paine said, time converts more than reason, but I suspect that even time doesn’t often work miracles.

  163. @Druid

    Very true. They eventually destroy every place they’re allowed to enter and influence

    Good to know that at least one other person has a clue! Thank you.

  164. @Cloak And Dagger

    I acknowledged that they are not signatories. I also noted that they are not required to be as long as they comply. I took a minute to check the IAEA website to see if there were any outstanding issues, cases or charges, that might fall in violation of the regulation in question — I did not see any.

    I do agree that we are playing fast and loose with the those areas of ambiguity with the law.

    If the US is gong to turn itself around, it’s going to take a good deal more than the current president. In my view, he is surrounded by people who will advise him poorly to the agenda he ran on. Clearly our dynamic is out of balance with respect to Israel.

    Note: I share your frustration.

  165. chris says:
    @El Dato

    It sure did. After Obama’s attempted coup in Turkey, Turkey too its gloves off. The whole friendship part is only Kabuki theater now.

    • Replies: @itchyvet
  166. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    clash with Muslims is escalating.

    Yes, the clash between the powerful Polytheist Human Worshippers & the Godless, and True Monotheists is escalating.

    What trials and tribulations the One has willed for those chosen for enlightenment, I do not know.

    But, I do have an idea of the tribulations by fire the One has willed for the enemies of True Monotheism.

    As evident now, true monotheists will face greater hardships in this clash, given our weakness. But, that said, we also whisper the following… which means, we should be ok.

    There is no Power or Might except with Him.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  167. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    The Israeli-Saudi alliance is one guaranteed to produce needless new chaos.

    The following verse from the Holy Quran comes to mind in the context of the connivance between the Saudi “Royals” and the truly evil Imperialists & Zionists.

    O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the [enemies of Islam] for your allies: they are but allies of one another and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide people who are unjust. (Quran 5:51)

    I do not have a full understanding what dilemmas these “royals” have to wrestle with to ally themselves with the clear enemies of the faith, but perhaps, “Ally with us against Iran, OR ELSE…,” is probably the most likely of them.

  168. Bianca says:

    This is not about hate, but the typical process of demonization, dehumanization, and building of a long term narrative for indocrinating US public.

    This worked beautifully for over a century, why change practice. Syrian government and institutions are undesirable, as secularism is to be destroyed in the Middle East. Secularism is equivalent of nationalism, and secular states are harder to globalize and subject to corporate “humanitarian” controls.

    But in US, once demonization starts, rare will be thise whi would not cede to at least some aspects od demonization. So, in order to “look” credible, most analysts must piously agree to some elements of demonization. Hence, Assad must be brutal dictatir, andvthen follows “but” — and reasons why it is not our
    business. It is essential to reject demonization outright, as rge authord if deminization do not really care about improving anybody’s lot, they only care about their power, and with power comes the wealth.

    In Middle East, Israel particularly has a oft stateddislike if not hate for Christians. It is reflected in all Western policies that have for decades created conditions for the demise if Christians. As a result, most people in Mediterranean Middle East prefer secular, modern nation- states, not Saudi midel of feudal span of control caliphates.

    Hate is a political theater, with the eye in long term psychological warfare, aimed primarily at domestic audience, then as a club to bring allies in line, and then to satisfy thise who ideologically hate selected groups.

    But the first step needed to confront endless calls fornmilitarism — is to reject any temptation to join in demonization, even that ibligatory “little bit”. I would recommend an interview with Assad’s wife, a Harward educated investment banker, who can more the eloquently represent the views if majority Syrian Sunnus, Shia or Christians. But this is what demonization does. We are not allowed to talk ir listen to the demonized untermenchen. To do that, one has to watch one of those “not free” alternative media.

  169. Sam J. says:
    @Realist

    “…Because Israel wants him gone…”

    This is the root of the problem. It’s the root of why we are in Afghanistan. It’s the root of endless commercials with White Women and Black Men. It’s the root of the attacks on White Men. Feminism, mass immigration, moving industry overseas, over priced military equipment, on and on and on. It’s the root a HUGE range of problems we have in the US and Europe. It’s time we stop working around the edges of these problems and get to the root.

    “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.” – Henry David Thoreau

    It’s time to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go whatever it takes.

    There will be whole slew of Hasbara proclaiming that we should do this and that and the other and the Jew problem will be solved. [This seems to be their latest tested confuse the issue meme]. Well I don’t care if Whites are not perfect, wonderful, Manly, super Christian, whatevers. I see the vast majority of problems we have are exacerbated tremendously by the Jews. It’s time to get rid of them.

    No matter what our problem is being the prey for Jewish parasites for thousands and thousands of years we’re not likely to fix whatever our problem is in the few next years so the best solution is to get rid of the Jews however we can. People have lived, believe it or not, very happy lives without the Jews for hundreds and hundreds of years. Let’s try that first. We can work on self improvement without the machinations of the Jews and see how that works for a while.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Carroll Price
    , @Druid
  170. Sam J. says:
    @itchyvet

    “…Washington “Hates” anyone who has the termity to stand up to them…”

    This is a complete lie. It’s has nothing to do with “Washington” it’s the Jews all the way that are pushing this. Their control of Washington is the problem and if we got rid of the Jews the whole thing could be sorted out ourselves. What group in the US, besides the Jews, wants to fight in Syria. None. No one, but the Jews.

    • Replies: @itchyvet
  171. Sam J. says:
    @Jake

    “…You cannot solve the ‘Jewish problem’ without also solving the ‘WASP problem.’…”

    I don’t believe you. Not at all. There’s really no WASP control over anything in the US. If there is then they are worthless. I submit that you’re just another person posting the Jew think tank tested message of the day that Whites must preform some task or the other, become some sort of thing other than what we are to control the Jews. We don’t need to do anything for the Jews or to ourselves we just need to get rid of the Jews. However we can. Anyway possible they must go. Even if you’re right about the ‘WASP problem’, whatever the hell that is, we can fix that AFTER we get rid of the Jews.

  172. Bubby says:
    @whyamihere

    Dictators are everywhere and especially in the US

  173. Art says:
    @jacques sheete

    Sherman: Pretty accurate, but you should add the words “insane”, “loser” and “lonely” in your description of yourself.

    jacques sheete,

    This “lonely” thing seems to a new Hasbara Central talking point.

    The lemmings are saying, we all are “soooo isolated” – when everyday new voices appear in the comments, bringing new angles to bear against the Jews and their sicko culture.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. I have to say, they are cute in their brown shirts and little jack boots.

    p.s. You little guys – Please – stay away from the cliffs.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @jacques sheete
  174. RobinG says:
    @RobinG

    “… please forgive my skepticism when the track record is so abysmal.”

    Should I have been more clear? I’m speaking of the track record of US gov’t, intel agencies, and major media. Ranging from strategic omission to disinformation, our “informed electorate” is anything but.

    While the general public may be ignorant about everything, it’s particularly enervating how most seasoned activists who have long been aware that virtually everything we’re told about Israel/Palestine is a lie, nevertheless unquestioningly lap up every accusation about Assad, Gaddafi, DPRK, or Russia! etc. from the same unreliable sources.

    • Agree: iffen
  175. itchyvet says:
    @Sam J.

    Oh Dear, so sorry to burst your bubble of complacency Sam, but the FACTS are, there are none, not one Congressman or woman that will stand up in Congress (or anywhere for that matter) and state their opposition to the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL WAR CRIMES the U.S. Government is committing day by day.
    It may have escaped your attention, that the U.S. has ILLEGALLY invaded Syria and is waging an ILLEGAL war, against the people of Syria.
    On top of that the actions the U.S. is conducting in Syria is also AGAINST the U.S. Constitution it’self without the approval of Congress. But then you can believe what you want, if it makes you feel better, it wont change a thing.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  176. itchyvet says:
    @chris

    Unfortunately, the U.S. is on record with the World, as stating that the U.S. has no friends, only interests. I’d say that was a monumental truth that slipped out accidentally.

    • Replies: @Ace
  177. @anonymous

    The Balfour Declaration, the 1953 coup in Iran, establishing Israel, the Afghan and Iraq wars, and much more, is irrelevant ?

    • Replies: @Sean
  178. Realist says:
    @Sam J.

    If you mean genocide I am not for it….at all. But if you mean ending their inordinate control over white lives then I am very much for it.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  179. Sam J. says:
    @Realist

    Specifically I mean they should leave the US. All White countries and go to Israel. If they will not leave I support any means to get them to so. What they do in Israel is none of my affair.

  180. Sam J. says:
    @itchyvet

    “…bubble of complacency…”

    Complacency? What does that even mean in this context? The quality of the Hasbara has been steadily falling. The reason all these things are happening is the Jews have taken control of our country just as they took over Russia, Germany, Spain and others. If Russia can get their country back so can we. Your comments are just one of a pattern of comments by what I suppose to be Jews blaming everything under the Sun on Whites and proclaiming that we must do this, that or the other to make things right. No we just need to get rid of the Jews. All the rest we can work on later at our own convenience. Can you name even one thing that you say we must do that can’t be done “after” we get rid of the Jews?

    We may also may lose the fight to stop the country from being overrun by immigrants and aliens. So be it. We should start talking to all the Hispanics and Blacks about the Jews and how we need to get rid of them. Noting the Federal Reserve stealing the capital needed for the economy would be a start. Wars for the Jews in the Middle East. Jews major role in bringing Blacks to the US as slaves. The major role of Jews selling opium to the Chinese. They’ve fucked just about everyone on the planet at one time or another.

  181. Sam J. says:
    @Art

    “…This “lonely” thing seems to a new Hasbara Central talking point…”

    The other big one lately is “self improvement”. Notice they are all about how we need to “improve” ourselves as some right of passage to withstand the Jews. None of these are anything but silly diversions as any of them could be done “after” we get rid of the Jews. I suggest that if we do zero improvement. That if we are dirty, rotten, pieces of shit that wear awkward looking clothes and wear funny hats we will still be better off if we get rid of the Jews. I don’t think there’s any living with these people. Their long term mental state is to destroy everything everywhere they go. We have several thousands of years worth of data to go by. The only surefire 100% way to get these people to leave you alone is get rid of them. Deport them. Have no intercourse with them at all and make sure they have no say so in your lives in any measure.

    • Replies: @Sherman
    , @Art
  182. stevedap says:

    … shall be dissolved…

    fixed it.

  183. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    Do you have reason to believe that slut-shaming will work in Europe when it doesn’t seem to work all that well in the U. S. anymore?

    And don’t forget: whores, white trash and Eurotrash need love too.

  184. @jacques sheete

    I like your term “infesting”: I used it to describe the arrival of Zionists in Palestine, which they infested like cockroaches.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  185. @Art

    The lemmings are saying, we all are “soooo isolated” – when everyday new voices appear in the comments, bringing new angles to bear against the Jews and their sicko culture.

    True.

    Apparently ostracism is one of the principal threats that their fanatic rabbis use to keep them in the clique, and it is a sicko one. Ostracism is a primitive means of controlling people and it probably works best in people who’ve been raised from birth to think of themselves as eternal victims. The isolation meme is no doubt projection on their part. What an intolerably simple minded bunch of goons!

    So,despite their imagined superiority (no doubt a soothing fiction), they’re probably terrified of being cast out of the supposedly protective group. They probably ought to be pitied, but they make themselves so hideously obnoxious that they can barely stand one another. That also explains their hatefulness and contempt of the goyim and apostates as well as their utterly destructive nature.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Sam J.
  186. @Wade

    Reading that just makes me despair that all is already lost.

    It certainly is. There is no reforming, improving or redeeming the current mess. It must be torn down and entirely rebuilt on some different model, uninfestable if possible.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  187. @Paranam Kid

    I like your term “infesting”: I used it to describe the arrival of Zionists in Palestine, which they infested like cockroaches.

    It’s a consistent part of their history and goes back at least 2000 + years.

  188. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    Is this why guys like Giraldi armed and funded Saddam’s war on Iran? While funding and arming Iran nearly at the same time?

  189. MEexpert says:
    @MEexpert

    Not Florence. I meant Ferguson, MO.

  190. Sean says:
    @Sean

    The US has the power, and Turkey can hardly turn to Russia.

  191. Let’s think. Where are the roots of terrorism? Developing countries? Thanks to Russia which help Syria by forward thinking.

  192. Sean says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “Nothing matters very much and few things matter at all”. Arthur Balfour

  193. @LondonBob

    The debate, while loquacious and almost witty at times, was ‘non-entical’. Of far more interest were the panel of beauties on the dais. One might think they were placed there for diversion, for the audience is dressed far more appropriately for the barrage of balderdash, than were ‘the ladies’.

  194. mr meener says:
    @LondonBob

    boy would I love to debate with those 4 beauties

  195. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “…just reciting the Israeli mandated lines.”

    What did the Führer think, Wally?

    “The broad mass of a nation…will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one” (“Die breite Masse eines Volkes…fällt einer grossen Lüge leicher zum Opfer als einer kleinen”).

    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ 1925

    Hope that helps.

    • Troll: L.K
  196. mr meener says:
    @Kiza

    a “moderate” rebel cooks the heart of a Syrian before eating it and a radical rebel eats it raw

  197. mr meener says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hitler prevented the jewish Bolsheviks from killing more Europeans then they killed Russians

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  198. Sherman says:
    @Sam J.

    “Have no intercourse with them”

    Ha!

    I doubt you’ve ever had intercourse with anyone in your life!

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Sam J.
    , @Sam J.
  199. Incitatus says:
    @RobinG

    “In much of Europe prostitution is legal, but it can be hard to tell the whores from the Eurotrash.”

    Thankfully we don’t have that problem in the US!

    Stormy Daniels for Vice-President 2020!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels

  200. Che Guava says:
    @ANON

    I would prefer if you were posting under a real u-name, but you are choosing not to.

    Am not having to watch the video to believing your quote, and it is evil.

    To me, the natural political and military solution for Syrian Kurds would have been an alliance with the Syrian govt., driving out the Islamist nutcases together, on condition of some degree of autonomy in the end.

    Instead, their political leaders were making arrangements only with Israel and the USA.

    Absolute failure of thought, and now, the normal people there, not the political class, who likely have bolt-holes and foreign passports, suffer an attack from Turkey, boots on the ground courtesy (mainly) of USA-trained jihadis, black joke indeed.

  201. @Incitatus

    Thus spake Incitatus downward to Wally: “The broad mass of a nation…will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one” (“Die breite Masse eines Volkes…fällt einer grossen Lüge leicher zum Opfer als einer kleinen”).
    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ 1925
    Hope that helps.”

    Hi InZit,

    Below is Gilad Atzmon reflecting upon a Big Lie Americans bought into, post 9/11.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/01/02/kosherising-the-9-11-truth-movement/

    Hope this helps!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  202. Sean says:
    @Sherman

    Sexual intercourse is the origin of our life and its dynamic principle, just as war is to a nation state. No one should be blamed for touching base now and again. It’s healthy.

  203. FB says:
    @L.K

    Your little anti-Assad spiel is wearing thin…

    Everybody who is fair minded and has evaluated both sides of the conflicting version of events as to how the violence in Syria actually started in 2011 has seen the facts very clearly…

    Police and security personnel sent to confront protesters were unarmed…by order of Assad…

    These so-called protesters quickly turned to arms and killed a bunch of security personnel…the first blood spilled was that of Syrian security forces…

    Your little stories have about as much truth to them as the Shite Helmets agit-prop…

    Nobody is buying the BS anymore…Assad is genuinely popular among the majority of Syrians…and he will be elected again…

    The US neocon project to tear Syria to pieces has failed miserably…get over it…

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @RobinG
    , @L.K
  204. Ace says:
    @jacques sheete

    Jacques and his cheap shots. Always an aid to persuasion.

    In what way was the proposed Constitution imposed on the colonial ratification assemblies? How were those people prevented from exercising independent judgment?

    The identities of the Founders were no secret and the ratifying assemblies were not prevented from making independent inquiry as to their interests and motivations. Merely highlighting economic interests is irrelevant to the process of examining how ratifying or rejecting the Constitution was effected. Do explain what coercive methods were used to obtain ratification of this pernicious document that duped so many innocents.

    While you’re at it, highlight the provisions of the Constitution that gave special protection or advantage to real estate, shipping, manufacturing, or merchandising interests. That’s sort of an Article and Section question, Jacques.

  205. @Incitatus

    Boy oh boy, that Hitler was one hell of a guy; a Superman, in Sam Shama’s parlance: In Dear Adolf’s brief years on this earthly orb, he single-handedly revitalized the German economy; incited 70 million Germans to uniformly hate Jews for no reason whatsoever, (cautioning them to ignore the relentless firebombing campaign Jews were instrumental in executing over Germany, killing at least half-a-million German civilians and destroying 75% of Germany’s cities and built culture); single-handedly killed six million of said Jews, having planned to “exterminate every single Jewish man, woman and child he could get his hands on” (per Prof. David Engel), while simultaneously deploying German Gestapo to assist up to 600,000 Jews to migrate from Germany; and also single-handedly killing 10- 15- 20-million (pick a number) Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Hungarians.

    Nevertheless, Superman Hitler failed in his quest to kill “every single Jew in the world” inasmuch as, of the 3,200,000 Jews under German control, 4,500,000 survived.

    Sometimes even Superman has a bad day.

    • LOL: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Sherman
    , @L.K
    , @Incitatus
  206. Che Guava says:
    @mr meener

    mr meaner,

    I like the spirit, but it is illogical.

    USSR largely stopped killing europeans (including the units to shoot retreaters, usually commanded by Jewish ‘comissars’, at least after the battle of Stalingrad), but was continuing after their victory with another mass-wave of deportation leading to death.

    Hitler was throwing dice (not in literal
    Sense) as strategy, and eventually losing..
    Possible worlds where WW2 was won by a diff. combo. (e.g, Japan, the Axis, and USSR under Stalin during and late ine war), IMHO that world would be better place, but of course an impossible result
    The site Wally is to recommending too frequently has good info. on it. Specific link, if a real interest, find it yourself. Too tired for spoon-feeding right now                                            

  207. Ace says:
    @FB

    Didn’t he say the exact same thing as you are saying?

    • Replies: @FB
  208. Ace says:
    @MEexpert

    And Ferguson and Bahraini conduct proves what about Syrian conduct?

  209. Art says:
    @jacques sheete

    Ostracism is a primitive means of controlling people and it probably works best in people who’ve been raised from birth to think of themselves as eternal victims.

    jacques sheete,

    Good point – the threat of being ostracized is very powerful. At a tender age, Jew children are traumatized with the notion that humanity wants to kill him. This happens at an age where they cannot tell right from wrong. He is told his tribe and their cultural ways are his safety. In his messed up, terrorized psyche, he must follow or die.

    The Jew culture is child abuse. Before they can think, they are inculcated with negative values. Jew children are not fed well-meaning happy ending Euro fairy tales. They are not told of love for humanity – but are fed the themes of separation, fear, and superiority.

    The Jews have a cruel culture – just look at Israel and Palestine. Look at the Israeli school system that produces hate for Palestinians and a righteous superiority and separation from humanity.

    The Jew are ruined at five.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  210. Ace says:
    @itchyvet

    The “only interests, not friends” idea is a truism of any beginning text on foreign policy. De Gaulle and Kissinger have said the same thing.

    “Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.” — Lord Palmerston, English Statesman, 1784-1865.

  211. RobinG says:
    @FB

    You seem confused… “Your little anti-Assad spiel is wearing thin…” Did you mean to address that to someone else? [i.e Not L.K]

    • Replies: @FB
  212. Ace says:
    @Renoman

    No sacrifice of the Syrians is too great for the Yinon plan or the Qatari-Oshkosh gas pipeline.

  213. @ChuckOrloski

    “The broad mass of a nation…will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one” (“Die breite Masse eines Volkes…fällt einer grossen Lüge leicher zum Opfer als einer kleinen”).
    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ 1925

    Looks as if was right about “The” “Holocaust” even before they lied about his supposed part in it.

    The truth is that Jews, including Zionists, supported Hitler. He was primarily against Bolshies, especially the Eastern European hordes that had been raising terror in Germany for decades. The Reds even had a Communist state of Bavaria and had infiltrated and controlled many other surrounding countries. That many of them were supposedly Jews was secondary if a problem at all.

    The biggest hoax ever is the lie about “The” holocaust and most people do believe that fraud without question.

    Tell the truth and get bashed…it’s the Talmudic way!

    • Replies: @L.K
  214. @Ace

    Jacques and his cheap shots. Always an aid to persuasion.

    I guess yours are better?

    I asked you a question and you’ve failed to answer it, therefore I’m not persuaded.

    Have a nice day now!

  215. @Art

    The Jew culture is child abuse.

    Evidently, and in more ways than one. From what I’ve seen, including the comments of the defenders of them, it’s viciously degenerate and destructive to the core.

    The Jews have a cruel culture – just look at Israel and Palestine.

    And Iran and Iraq and Libya and Syria, and Lebanon, and, and, and…

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  216. Hi All,

    I am back to considering why, once upon a time, Jewish Neoconservatives despised Trump and could not support him for president of the ZUS.

    Half hour ago (E.S.T.), I happened to listen in on Limbaugh’ s “talent on loan from God,” and he proudly opined about William Kristol and how this Neocon crackpot wanted David French to run against and stop Trump.

    Please look at video linked below and you’ll hear a whack job Jewish Task Force representative speak on behalf of “Jews for Cruz” and with homage for David French.

    On the article’s good question as to why D.C. hates Assad, I have defaulted on my “Talent” (monthly payment) loan from The Lobby, and subsequently both Damascus and Moscow are alright with me!

  217. Sherman says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Hey Chuck

    What was that part about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  218. FB says:
    @Ace

    Oops…you’re right…I misunderstood LK’s comment entirely…

  219. FB says:
    @RobinG

    Yes…I did misunderstand LK…I agree with his comment entirely…hope that clears it up…

  220. FB says:
    @Ace

    Ace…have you not figured out yet that Jack Sheep is basically the Village Idiot around here…?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Ace
  221. L.K says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    LOL , Solonto, thanks man, sometimes sarcasm & humor make for the best replies to this kinda garbage…

    The Nazi cannibal’s “extermination program” seems to have been conducted by incompetent amateurs indeed, since Israeli demographer, Sergio Della Pergola, stated in an official Israeli report that there were 1.092,000 Jewish holohoax survivors alive in 2003… imagine the numbers in 45…
    It reminds me of Norman Finkelstein telling a story about how his mother said something like: ‘with so many survivors, who did Hitler kill??’

    Demonization of the target is a powerful thing in propaganda, in the case of the Syrian government and president Assad, for instance, all of the Syrian war fatalities, real or imagined, have been constantly attributed to him, disregarding the huge number of both soldiers and civilians who have been killed while supporting the government.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  222. L.K says:
    @FB

    Hey shithead,

    Before you try to troll me, you should at least read what I wrote in my comments 154/115 and others, in which I stated the same things you said…

    With one big diff, I actually provided DETAILS.

    Few here at Unz have done more in the comments than me to expose this criminal war against Syria…

    There is an electronic record of it…

    Fuck off.

    • Replies: @FB
  223. For those romantics who think the constitution was not imposed upon the majority of the populace, here is just one argument, of many to the contrary.:

    3. It cannot be said that, by voting, a man pledges himself to support the Constitution, unless the act of voting be a perfectly voluntary one on his part. Yet the act of voting cannot properly be called a voluntary one on the part of any very large number of those who do vote. It is rather a measure of necessity imposed upon them by others, than one of their own choice. On this point I repeat what was said in a former number,[1] viz:

    “In truth, in the case of individuals, their actual voting is not to be taken as proof of consent, even for the time being. On the contrary, it is to be considered that, without his consent having even been asked, a man finds himself environed by a government that he cannot resist; a government that forces him to pay money, render service, and forego the exercise of many of his natural rights, under peril of weighty punishments.

    - Lysander Spooner
    —No Treason, no. 6: The Constitution of no Authority

    Clearly, the constitution and the centralized government it established were imposed upon “we, the people.” There’s a reason so many resisted the imposition of the abomination. Most, however, had no idea that there was a move afoot to bind them to a new set of masters, and if they did, there would have probably been another “revolution” which in fact did occur. We call it the Civil War.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  224. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hey Jacques,

    You said “The truth is that Jews, including Zionists, supported Hitler.”

    Well, not exactly. The Zionists did, to some extent, as they wanted Jews moving to Palestine…

    But back then, the Zionist movement, though very powerful & expanding quickly, was not yet, as far as I can remember, a majority of organized Jewry.

    The Zionists, at any rate, cooperated with N.S Germany only when it suited their interests, and against it when it did not.

    In Palestine during WW2, the zio Stern gang actually offered to fight against the Brits and for Germany, if Germany supported their cause in Palestine later( going from memory here). The Germans refused.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  225. FB says:
    @L.K

    What are you hyperventilating about pinhead…?

    I admitted already I misunderstood your intent…

    As for debunking stuff about Syria…check my comment history here…especially about the technical matters surrounding the Shayrat strike…

    Clearly we are both on the same side…so why the hand grenade spiel…?

    Anyone can make an honest mistake…but your instant resort to vulgarities makes me wonder how useful you are to the cause…a ‘stable genius’ is not exactly what we need…

  226. @Ace

    For anyone who thinks the adoption of the constitution was a moral act, there’s plenty of evidence to the contrary and from many sources. Anyway, all thinking people understand that it was imposed on us and its adoption was agreed to by only a very small sample of the population at the time.

    The number who actually consented to the Constitution of the United States, at the first, was very small. Considered as the act of the whole people, the adoption of the Constitution was the merest farce and imposture*, binding upon nobody.

    -Lysander Spooner, No Treason No. II. The Constitution (1867)

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/No_Treason/2

    *Imposture, imposition. Get it?

    • Replies: @Ace
  227. @FB

    Ace…have you not figured out yet that Jack Sheep is basically the Village Idiot around here…?

    He probably hasn’t yet figured out that you’re one of the Ziomaster’s useful idiots, but as obvious as you make it, how could he miss it?

    Have a nice day, dolt!

  228. @Sherman

    What was that part about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?

    ‘Ey Shoym!

    What part’s respectable?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  229. @L.K

    Demonization of the target is a powerful thing in propaganda,

    Don’t say that too loudly; you may shock a few trolls out of their voluntary stupidity and that can’t be a pretty thing, not that their stupidity is.

  230. wootendw says:

    “Why Does Washington Hate Bashar al-Assad?”

    Because he is Good. Assad, with his highly intelligent English (Sunni) wife, Asma, are the best persons to reform Syria and make into a nice country. That, however, would mean that the Netanyahu regime would no longer be the ME’s only stable democracy. In fact, Syria could easily become more prosperous and free than Israel – which is technically still at war with Syria and depends on fresh water flowing into it from Syria (as well as Lebanon).

    Netanyahu is like the wicked queen in Snow White:
    “Magic Mirror on the Wall,
    Who is the ME’s fairest of all?”
    When the Mirror says ‘Assad’ instead of ‘Israel’, Bibi fumes “What?! Arm terrorists to destabilize Syria! Gas some Syrian babies! And make it look like Assad did it!”

    Hatred of the good for being the good, as Ayn Rand would have put it.

    • Agree: RobinG, Kiza
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @L.K
    , @Johnny Rico
  231. @L.K

    You said “The truth is that Jews, including Zionists, supported Hitler.”

    Well, not exactly. The Zionists did, to some extent, as they wanted Jews moving to Palestine…

    L.K, I think I have pretty good evidence to support my contention that Jews (not all Jews, mind you) supported Hitler. Among them were the assimilated ones such as a good proportion of those who owned large businesses, banks, shipping lines, mines, newspapers, and movie industry related businesses, etc., just as they do in the US today. I believe that’s true for the military that supported him and maybe even some who later tried to snuff him.

    I suspect that any anti-Jew rhetoric he came up with was about as serious as Trump’s and any other politician’s campaign promises, i.e., utterances that helped him politically with the masses.

    The infamous yellow star badge was in fact the idea of a Nazi supporting Jewish banker, Olaf Aschberg. The famous boycott of Jewish businesses lasted all of one day and many Jews continued to run their businesses under Nazi rule.

    Here’s one source. Note the date.:

    The Jews, through their native talents and more particularly through close mutual collaboration, had profited enormously. They largely ran Berlin and the great provincial cities [of Germany]… In the stalls sat a phalanx of Jewish dramatic critics, headed by Alfred Kerr, and wrote laudatory notices for the most widely read newspapers, the Jewish Berliner Tageblatt and Vossische Zeitung. In the lobbies of the theatres and picture houses schwärmerische German mothers and daughters fought for the signatures of their Jewish favourites. Have all those autographs been ceremoniously burned, in solemn family conclave, since the eyes of Germany were opened?

    When I had a toothache I went to a Jewish dentist, and when I was ill a Jewish doctor cured me quickest, and that, I suppose, was why they were so numerous and prosperous. The most fashionable and wealthiest lawyers, well advertised by the press of their co-religionists, were Jews. Jewish architects, Erich Mendelssohn prominent among them, were busy building new villas for the wealthy along the pleasant avenues leading out to the woods and lakes.

    -Douglas Reed, Insanity Fair, (1938), ~ page 46-unfortunately the book is unpaginated

    http://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/Douglas_Reed_Books_pdf/Insanity%20Fair.pdf

  232. @Diversity Heretic

    Surely you meant the 1850s, not the 1950s: the 1850s gave the US South v Maryland (59 U.S. 18 How. 396 [1855]) which made it clear that there is no positive duty of care imposed on “law enforcement” to protect individuals or their property.

    That decision should have caused the scales to fall from the eyes of the livestock: it effectively said that an individual citizen cannot sue the system if the system failed to “protect and serve”.

    What that ruling made clear, is that “law enforcement” is established to keep us serfs in line (by making sure we obey) – and that all slogans (e.g., “protect and serve”) are misdirectional eyewash (the pigs protect the political class and serve the political class, not us… the better to enable the parasites to live in bigger, shinier palaces).

    At that point, the citizenry ought to have overthrown the government – after all, the BlackRobes had literally just said that the government had no duty of care to its citizens.

    The citizenry didn’t overthrown the government (at least, that’s what happened in my version of the simulation), and the law as “interpreted” by the BlackRobes in 1955 is still canonical (thanks to the stupid doctrine of stare decisis – which rivals papal infallibility for hubris).

    There have been a string of decisions by the BlackRobes that make it absolutely clear that they are power’s handmaidens forst and foremost: they do not work for society – they work for the political class. The hint is that the whole “sombre gravitas” schtick is so reminiscent of Catholic litursgy (or at the very least, High Church Protestantism) – including all the trappings of senior ecclesiasts (the whole ‘gown’ dressup thing: if their opinions were inherently meritorious, they could deliver their decisions in t-shirts and track pants).

    It used to stagger me that the median individual could not see the scam – that we are semi-free-range livestock, and governments are tax farms (“semi-free-range”: large cages, but still cages – try leaving your national jurisdiction without getting your ear-tag checked).

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Zumbuddi
  233. Art says:
    @Sam J.

    “…This “lonely” thing seems to a new Hasbara Central talking point…”

    The other big one lately is “self improvement”. Notice they are all about how we need to “improve” ourselves as some right of passage to withstand the Jews.

    Sam J,

    New words – same old false put-downs.

    Being immoral and arrogant is not smart. Smart people do not put up roadblocks to future intercourse with others, as the inferior Jews do.

    With the Jews it is always a “zero-sum they win you lose” contest.

    That is not how the universe works – win win is how the universe progresses. When a Jew leaves somewhere, there is always chaos.

    Think Peace — Art

  234. @jacques sheete

    And, as Paine said (prefiguring Spooner) –

    There never did, there never will, and there never can, exist a Parliament, or any description of men, or any generation of men, in any country, possessed of the right or the power of binding and controlling posterity to the “end of time,” or of commanding for ever how the world shall be governed, or who shall govern it; and therefore all such clauses, acts or declarations by which the makers of them attempt to do what they have neither the right nor the power to do, nor the power to execute, are in themselves null and void. Every age and generation must be as free to act for itself in all cases as the age and generations which preceded it. The vanity and presumption of governing beyond the grave is the most ridiculous and insolent of all tyrannies. Man has no property in man; neither has any generation a property in the generations which are to follow. The Parliament or the people of 1688, or of any other period, had no more right to dispose of the people of the present day, or to bind or to control them in any shape whatever, than the parliament or the people of the present day have to dispose of, bind or control those who are to live a hundred or a thousand years hence. Every generation is, and must be, competent to all the purposes which its occasions require. It is the living, and not the dead, that are to be accommodated. When man ceases to be, his power and his wants cease with him; and having no longer any participation in the concerns of this world, he has no longer any authority in directing who shall be its governors, or how its government shall be organised, or how administered.

    Think of the consequences of this line of thinking as Δ T shrinks towards zero: a person born tomorrow is bound by the decisions of the political class of today, despite having no say in the decision.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  235. Jo Jones says:
    @bluedog

    I’ve read that French archaeologists estimated that there were between 25 and 75 million native people in the United States before the Europeans arrived. I don’t think anybody or any nation can top United States of America when it comes to massacring innocent human beings.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  236. Zumbuddi says:
    @wootendw

    Disagree in part: Iran is more stable and more ‘Democratic than Israel.

    Hands down.

    No contest.

    Surprised at robin’s reflexive “Agree.”

    • Replies: @RobinG
  237. @Kratoklastes

    Scam*, ya say? How’s about this?

    What’s even worse is that the position of Supreme Court Justice is an appointed position thus there are no specific requirements for selecting them beyond being a somewhat living being and a buddy of the president or one of his handlers.

    Of course an additional practical consideration is that they must be able to be approved by Congress, but as we all know, that institution is a joke and has been for some time.

    While the Constitution stipulates qualifications for being President of the United States, it is silent as to qualifications for Supreme Court justices.

    The Constitution does not say that a Justice must be American born, a certain age or hold any particular profession before being selected. The court’s highest Justice also is not required to have any specific qualifications.

    In fact, the Chief Justice isn’t even required to have served as an Associate Justice.

    https://thelawdictionary.org/article/qualifications-to-become-a-supreme-court-justice/

    *Keep writing like that and you’ll be smeared with all kinds of scat from the Zio-trolls here. Welcome abourd!

  238. Jo Jones says:
    @Carroll Price

    “If history is any guide, the consequences, when the parasite has once developed beyond a certain size and strength…it is almost inevitably fatal to its victim.” W R Halliday

  239. Zumbuddi says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Think about church services in Christian denominations as well as RC, & in spades for Episcopal — All the talking, directing, chastising, prodding toPledge — comes from the pulpit, i e top down. Role of the congregation (demos) is to sit down, shut up, listen up, pay up, and volunteer to fry fish, clean the church hall, obey, and chastise yourself for your ‘sins.’

    Nothing Democratic about any Christian church service I’ve seen over many uears.

    Americans are trained from birth to “pray, pay, and obey.”

    When the Greek & Roman myths were the religion of the land, belief was not compulsory .
    Enforcement, unto death, of belief in the One God is a Hebrew Abrahamic innovation.

    If Christianity hopes to survive, it is essential that it First, decouple itself from the -Judaic imposition, then do as the Germans tried to do a century ago, and Jefferson did a century before that: The ‘religion’s of Jesus must completely remove from its spirituality or theology each and every linkage to Judahite-ism. 1 example . . .Jesus did not teach that Hatred and killing were good things.

    Jefferson wrote in early 1800s that Judaism wanted reform. That still applied.
    As well, Christianity “wants reform,” if it hopes to survive.

  240. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    > Why does Washington hate Bashar al-Assad?

    As the lion of damascus explained; hydrocarbons.

    Russians, Europeans, Americans, Gulf countries, Chinese, they all want energy, and his country happened to be in the way of the greater powers.

    For the other explanations; you always find a stick when you want to beat a dog.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @KA
  241. Sam J. says:
    @Sherman

    There’s that Hasbara lonely talking point. I guess you can check that one off on you little talking point form.

    Intercourse is an old school way of sating , talk to, live in the same area as, trade, be neighborly too. You an determine if you are talking about sexual or other forms of intercourse depending on the context the word is used. I guess you missed that.

  242. RobinG says:
    @Zumbuddi

    The Magic Mirror analogy was great, and my (new) use of the agree button has me a little punchy. Actually, it was the mention of Ayn Rand that gave me pause. ;) Your point about Iran is kind of OT to that comment. Besides, isn’t Lebanon also more democratic than Israel?

    • Replies: @wootendw
  243. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete asked Sherman: “What part’s respectable?”

    Hi Jacques,

    Answer is…, the part that’s cast off banquet table by the Jewish Lobbies.

  244. Sam J. says:
    @Sherman

    Using the word “intercourse” was a mistake. Next time I’ll use the phrase “have nothing to do with them” so you will understand.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  245. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    “…So,despite their imagined superiority (no doubt a soothing fiction), they’re probably terrified of being cast out of the supposedly protective group…”

    Yeah that’s really insightful. All that they are is primarily due to the ingroup behavior of the Jews. Doing each other favors and covering for each other makes them much more powerful. They’re very much like the Mafia and are following the same precepts. They also act somewhat like a army with various specialties to attack us.

    This is probably why me saying,”We must get rid of them”, pisses them off so bad. Whites people when you say that to them are much more likely to have the attitude, “to hell with you I don’t want to be around you either”.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  246. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    “… Reading that just makes me despair that all is already lost.

    It certainly is. There is no reforming, improving or redeeming the current mess. It must be torn down and entirely rebuilt on some different model, uninfestable if possible…”

    No, No, No don’t lose hope. Remember that the Jews have been kicked out of every single country they’ve ever been to in all their history. The Germans and Russians were far more infested than the US is. They think that all these immigrants will take away all power from Whites. Well maybe we will lose a lot of power but on “one issue”, getting rid of the Jews, Whites can band together and the immigrants will go along because they don’t have any love for the Jews either.

    I believe that we should concentrate on one thing. Getting rid of them. They can go to Israel. The only thing we have to change is making it illegal for them to have anything to do with us at all. No trade, no nothing. We had a perfectly good system of “Representative Democracy” in the US where only “qualified Voters” voted. Mostly we should only have voters that have skin in the game, pay taxes, maybe have children. What the qualifications are we can work out later after we get rid of the Jews.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  247. L.K says:
    @wootendw

    “That, however, would mean that the Netanyahu regime would no longer be the ME’s only stable democracy.”

    Apartheid Israel is FAR from being a “democracy”.

    Nor is it really that stable, given the artificial and unfair manner it came into being and all that stems from its criminal inception.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  248. William says:

    How many times do you have to be told? Washington doesn’t hate Syria or Assad. Washington today, the last putative “super power,” is in reality nothing more than a lap dog, a pawn of an army of fanatical Israeli supporters. Whether you believe it or not, or whether you like it or not, the fact is that Israeli
    supporters in this country control congress with practically unlimited funds. It is this group of dedicated lovers of Israel that lied poor, ignorant Pres George Bush to invade Iraq, and they are pushing daily for the U.S. to ‘hate’ Iran enough to attack it. The CIA helped organize the Ukranian opposition and then funded it. The same with Syria. U.S. tax payer dollars, funneled through the CIA helped organize and fund the Syrian rebels. The CIA then supplied weapons, logistical support, political support to opponents of Assad. The result has been the devastation of one more Middle East country.
    Why did the U.S. expend so much U.S. treasure and cause the deaths of so many thousands of Syrians?
    Certainly Syria was no threat to the U.S. nor ever could be. And American citizens never gave a thought to Syria much less hate Syria. The power behind the throne was Israel, manipulating, buying, threatening U.S. politicians until they convinced a despicable, cowardly congress into thinking that maybe they did hate Syria. And maybe Syria did pose a threat to the mighty U.S. military.
    The war was fought because of Israel. Tens of thousands of human beings died because Israel wants
    to dominate the Middle East. And it has not cost the Israelis one thin dime. No. Gullible, cowardly U.S. politicians paid for it all with our money, tax payer money.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  249. @Sam J.

    They’re very much like the Mafia…

    They are probably the worst and by far the most effective mafia that ever existed. They’re undoubtedly extremely well versed in the art after thousands of years of experience.

    They terrorize their own as much as they terrorize others and I bet Bro Nathaniel could add some worthwhile insights to the concept if he hasn’t already.

    • Replies: @ANON
  250. @Sam J.

    It’s time to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go whatever it takes.

    Jews don’t need to be persecuted or forced to go anywhere. Deny them the right to serve as public officials, bankers, judges and jurors, plus enact laws criminalizing the private loaning of money at usury, and a large majority will voluntarily relocate to other countries, with the ones who don’t being rendered harmless.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  251. @Greg Bacon

    Let’s go a big step further than Kaine: have US citizens vote directly on war or military intervention of any kind, whenever possible.

    Congressman Louis Ludlow had this idea long ago, and it seems like a promising one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Amendment

  252. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    I’m convinced that a lot of it is genetic. There’s evidence that about 60% of human behavior is motivated by genetics. I believe that the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths. Not all but a great deal of their population are psychopaths. You may quibble with this idea but the end effect of a bunch of Jews moving into any country is the exact same as if a a tribe of psychopaths moved in so even if I’m wrong you’ll never be surprised if you assume the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths.

    The only known 100% sure way to deal with psychopaths is to get rid of them. Move them away from you and have nothing to do with them. We should get rid of the Jews and live happily ever after. The colors in our wash will be brighter. Our children will be happier and the the World will be a better place.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  253. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    For the religious guys here.

    Not sure if this is christian or jewish or islam but

    “Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.”

  254. Sam J. says:
    @Jo Jones

    “…archaeologists estimated that there were between 25 and 75 million native people in the United States before the Europeans arrived…”

    Of who the large majority of died from diseases they had no defense against. This is in no way comparable to the deliberate massacres of people the Jews have killed in the tens and tens of millions. I bet the number is much higher for the Jews massacring others.

    This shows that we must get rid of the Jews before they try to massacre us. If they do start to try and massacre us like they did the Spanish, Germans, Russians and many others we should massacre them first.

  255. Sam J. says:
    @Carroll Price

    I agree you’re statement is correct but over time they bring back the infestation. We should be sure about it this time and get rid of them.

  256. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Trump recently declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel.
    He was mistaken.
    Jerusalem is the capital of the JEWSA.

  257. To All,

    Can’t predict another Brother Nathanael appearance here. so meanwhile (below) he meaningfully speaks about the last American president.

    http://brothernathanaelchannel.com/watch_video.php?v=1245

  258. hyperbola says:
    @El Dato

    Exclusive: Saddam key in early CIA plot
    By RICHARD SALE, UPI Intelligence Correspondent | April 10, 2003

    https://www.upi.com/Exclusive-Saddam-key-in-early-CIA-plot/65571050017416/

    U.S. forces in Baghdad might now be searching high and low for Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, but in the past Saddam was seen by U.S. intelligence services as a bulwark of anti-communism and they used him as their instrument for more than 40 years, according to former U.S. intelligence diplomats and intelligence officials. United Press International has interviewed almost a dozen former U.S. diplomats, British scholars and former U.S. intelligence officials to piece together the following account……

    A Look at How the CIA Backed and Financed Saddam Hussein 40 Years Ago in An Effort to Assassinate Iraq’s Then Prime Minster

    https://www.democracynow.org/2003/4/21/a_look_at_how_the_cia

  259. wootendw says:
    @RobinG

    Lebanon is more democratic than Israel but Israel destabilizes it. I’m not going to Iran. Israel’s claim is false but plausible to many.

  260. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    The Italian Mafia that is basis for generic term, mafia, emerged from southern parts of Italy where Jews migrated in large numbers after Rome settled the Maccabean uprising.

  261. @Sam J.

    I believe that we should concentrate on one thing. Getting rid of them.

    It’s becoming increasingly clear to me that must be priority #1 along with getting rid of their nukes, a hefty part of which have been stolen in one form or another from us dumb goyim.

    As a group they act like crackpots and there is nothing to do but keep ‘em penned up otherwise they keep pulling the same crap and we keep suffering the same results.

  262. @Sam J.

    I believe that the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths. Not all but a great deal of their population are psychopaths. You may quibble with this idea …

    There can be little doubt about it, and you’ll not catch me quibbling!

  263. polskijoe says:
    @RealAmerican

    More like 50 million Evangelicals who worship Israel,

    while calling Catholics “antiChrist”, and “Whore of babylon”.
    They prefer land of Israel more than defending other Christians.

    Yeahhhawww lets bring the rapture and end the world, in the name of Israel and Mammom. lol.

    Plus half the US population who thinks Jews are chosen.

    Wouldnt call them Christians.
    Just ZioEvangelical worshippers.

    Quite frankly though, recently im getting sickened with organized religion,
    even though was raised hardcore Catholic.

    Probably influenced because of all the antiCatholic sentiment,
    which dominated Anglo speaking nations,
    the Freemasons, and Jews, have turned the Catholic Church itself
    into a weak, self, which still often sides evil elitists, mic, and politicians in the US and Europe.

    And the Catholic Church which wont throw out the faggots from priesthood, until they do something obviously wrong.
    I thin kthe Catholic Church is either scared like scary to remain neutral, or fear of assiinations, bombs, or they have become lost in some areas because of the division.

    Starting to lose hope sadly.

  264. polskijoe says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Agreed. Giraldi makes lots of good articles. Hard hitting.

    The Civil War was obviously CIA/Mossad operation to destablize the nation.
    Similar like Color Revolutions.

    Send in hordes of Al Qeuda, Al Nustra, ISIS to kill, loot, rape and destroy.

    Make sure that Washingtoncompst, JewYorkTimes, and other trash whether its CNN or Economist and others, shows how “evil” Assad is.

    Those terror organizations are hordes from dozens of dozens of nations including,
    Libya, Saudi, descenedants from around the Arab world, even a few from West and Russia.

    The CIA/Mccain scum, protect them, while pretending to be against them.

  265. polskijoe says:
    @joe webb

    Its strange that it appears the WASP elites, like Jewish elites,
    some side with Semites over other Europeans.

    In fact the West often sided with Arabs for oil and influence in the Middle East,
    until that time where Zionism started gaining more and more influence. Now its about Jews.

    (I am aware that the British, French, and later US have messed with Middle East since at least 1900, probably earlier).

    The Liberals will use both groups which is better deal. And make deals with both. Coups, oil, color revolutions.
    The Republicans appear to be completely Zionist, and only use Arabs for war purposes.

  266. RBHoughton says: • Website

    The author says the Saudis have a religious reform plan to extirpate the Syrian Alawites. He says the Israelis want the entire Levant partitioned into tribal areas so no one of them is strong enough to confront Tel Aviv. These are real reasons for those countries but what about America? What’s to be gained by America to justify the costs in blood and treasure? The author does not say.

    The Unz Review does a fair job in getting alternative views out into the public domain imo and Mr Giraldi has often alerted us to important developments soon after they have occurred, but there is something missing in this article – its the promotion of the USD which underlies US interest in replacing Assad’s government with someone submissive and conciliatory to US policy.

    The geopolitical interest is getting gas from the Qatar side of the huge field under the Persian Gulf by installing a pipeline up to the Syrian coast where it can be supplied to Europe and end for a long time the EU’s reliance on Russian gas. The US assessment is Europe compromises over Russia because they are dependent on Russian energy. Remove that dependency and NATO will persuade the EU civil government to be completely pro-war, even if its fought (as it will be) in Europe.

    I think that’s why the neocons in Washington are so rabidly determined to remove Assad. He is seen as just one man. Get rid of him and Europe will be buying its energy supply from Qatar using USD, the font of American power.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @L.K
  267. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    Reading your comments, a tiresome slog really, until one arrives at this particular gem, when it is hard to imagine how the raw irony behind “have nothing to do with them” could have escaped even as obtuse a creation such as yourself, that your host is a Jew.

    Not your fault of course, but your parents drew from the shallow end of the gene pool.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  268. peterAUS says:
    @RBHoughton

    Good comment.

    And, that

    Europe will be buying its energy supply from Qatar using USD, the font of American power.

    is exactly why Russia is there.
    Keep Europe buying energy supplies from Russia. The core of Russian economy and keeping the current regime in power.

    That’s at least what I read the same week when Russians got directly involved there.

  269. @EliteCommInc.

    USA has no reason to be in Iraq, Afghanistan,Libya,Syria near Russia bear Ukraine.
    Untill,China Russia reach to Superpower capabilities we will keep this criminal country keep getting away with crime against humanity.
    Let’s hope they keep pocking Russian bear by interfering Ukraine and Cuban crises would look like a picnic. Putin has balls and power to do it.

  270. KA says:
    @Anonymous

    Oil or supply of oil has been repeatedly invoked to portray as the cause for US ‘s intervention in ME. USA could get all the oil it wants from Iran and some more . US could have got all the oils had it wanted from Saddam . Syria as was told by Putin in 2015 was more interested in reaching deal and making friends in the west . It is not oil . It has same relevance as does the clean water has for US intervention in Libya.
    Oil business never supported sanctions on Iraq or on Iran. It never supported the Iraq war . Halliburton or similar firms supporting or getting involved do not prove that oil business was interested in war . They served different purposes and made money by building what was already built and was in place but was destroyed by war .

  271. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…could have escaped even as obtuse a creation such as yourself, that your host is a Jew…”

    You Hasbara are so dense. Like I didn’t already know. They irony is on YOU.

    It amazes me that you supposed geniuses are such dolts. I never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed but you Hasbara are frequently routed here and everywhere else. I think that you’re used to blaring your pronouncements from TV where you get no feed back. Your arguments are pitifully weak. You KNOW that we don’t need you. We can live great fulfilling, happy lives and never have anything to do with Jews. We’ve done so. Over and over. Every time you’re kicked out of a country everything becomes better. The children are happier. Colors become brighter and I’ll bet even the Earth itself becomes more productive by sheer joy of your absence.

  272. Lets put all this in to context
    One: UN census shows that the Kurds are roughly 8 percent of the sovereign state of Syria UN recognised borders. Syria did have a free election. The lines in Beirut in 2014 where a mile long. See the west had closed all of Damascus’e embassies and consulates.The turn out was circa 70 percent of eligible voters. Far more representation than the last POTUS election of 2016. Assad was elected.
    Two: Syria is a country inhabited by Syrians hence they should choose who what and where with the sovereign nation .
    Three: US has not learned anything from past bellicose adventures IE ME in general. .Syrian will always consider US forces as occupying forces. No different to the foreign takfiri forces that destroyed Syria and Iraq. Remember the vast majority of the takfiri’s were and are foreigners and not native Syrians
    Conclusion:
    It appears most commentators of the west seem to forget little details like that.
    It is very troubling to see the follies prior to WW1 re occurring in this post modern day dystopia.

  273. @Sam J.

    Not one of them has ever made a comment of any substance whatsoever that I’ve seen.

    The best they can do is mock and taunt folks in the most juvenile ways and they’re not bright enough to understand that some of us dumb goyim see what they’re about.

    As far as the host here being “Jewish,” I’d like to know on what basis he’s considered one.

    You KNOW that we don’t need you.

    And that’s one of the things they just can’t stand. They’re continuously trying to be somebody and they know they don’t have much to work with. We don’t need what they have to offer. Even worse, their own group will cast them out if they cease being useful to their perverted ways.

    It would help if they’d simply grow up, but the prospects appear dim.

  274. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    [Like I didn’t already know]

    Even in the company of these pitiful old dregs who come here to flog their fantasies and everything else below the midsection on a daily basis, you stand out. So, if you did know of your host’s identity and yet continued to make your asinine, sweeping desires about what you would like to do to “All Jews”, that you want “No connection to Jews”, you stilted carrion, you need to be told that all you are engaged in, is a vile fantasy; self-therapy of the most pitiable sort. Like a mangy duo, you spit on the hand which allows you to post on this forum. You and your cackling cur of a friend who feeds on you, are going to be able to do precisely nothing. Except of course to come here daily and flog your fantasies. Run along.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @iffen
    , @Sam J.
    , @Art
  275. Art says:
    @Sam J.

    You KNOW that we don’t need you. We can live great fulfilling, happy lives and never have anything to do with Jews. We’ve done so. Over and over. Every time you’re kicked out of a country everything becomes better. The children are happier. Colors become brighter and I’ll bet even the Earth itself becomes more productive by sheer joy of your absence.

    Sam J.,

    The parasitic Jews are chaos makers. When they leave a situation, it is always worse for their having been there.

    9/11, the home price bubble, single parenthood — it is all them!

    Ostracize them – that is moral.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @AnonyMous
  276. @Cloak And Dagger

    The answer today is term limits for congress! They get corrupted and narrow minded when in congress longer than they deserve

  277. Zumbuddi says:

    “mangy duo,”

    As in Deuteronomy,

    As in the true Israelite – destroying, all Other – destroying Levites.

    How about you, Sam,

    Are you a ‘mangy Deuteronomite,’ Sam, completng the pair to Proud Levite Mangy Michael Ledeen?

  278. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Are we here for the dopamine? Another regular flogger posted part of Chamath Palihapitiya at Stanford. The whole talk is very interesting. I’ve been wishing for a way to feel, and be, more positive. This is challenging, yet encouraging. Do you work with ‘hard problems’ such as Chamath describes? At least you’re doing the first bit right – [get money!].

    Chamath Palihapitiya, Founder and CEO Social Capital, on Money as an Instrument of Change

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Zumbuddi
  279. AnonyMous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Enjoy!

    • Replies: @Art
    , @helena
  280. anon • Disclaimer says:

    However, in his memoir, Bush jarringly acknowledges that he was aware that the UN inspectors were roaming around Iraq during the lead-up to the war.
    “Some believed we could contain Saddam by keeping the inspectors in Iraq,” Bush wrote. “But I didn’t see how. If we were to tell Saddam he had another chance — after declaring this was his last chance — we would shatter our credibility and embolden him.”

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/23/george-w-bush-dupe-or-deceiver/

    These wars in ME could be just as well be summed up as nothing but HONOR KILLING – we would shatter our credibility

  281. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    Hi Robin,
    You’ve asked a question I consider to be at the heart of the matter I’ve struggled with for years. I daren’t speak of all I find deeply distressing, matters entwined in the behaviour of a section of my co-religionists in particular, and that of the reigning elite in general. I’ll keep this to the length of a gist, and expand on it afterwards.

    The circumstances are these: the entire global economy is constructed to act as a giant hoover which syphons wealth upwards. This wealth is spent sparingly compared to what lower earners might have, were they the recipients: a well-understood concept of lower marginal propensity to consume by the rich. As a result, the pool of savings grows at a rate faster than investable assets. So, asset prices grow slowly but steadily. And inequality persists. However, at the same time, average incomes also rise steadily and at a rate lower than inflation. In other words, everyone is getting more from prosperity, but the top reaches excessively so.

    The difficulties consequently are less economic than social, a malaise which tends to affect people for a variety of reasons some which I can discern but most of which I fear I am not perspicacious enough to understand. The whole apparatus is causing a kind of widespread angst. I don’t know how to change that, but I do know that the chances of mobilising an organised effort against it, a popular movement as it were, faces odds not worth spending one’s coin on. Coin better made and spent on attainable odds; on outcomes far more social and pleasant. It is the pragmatist in me and I can see into the future, but not one too distant.

    Thus, I continue to offer my lukewarm support for Mr Trump, on account of the tax changes [except the portion relevant to Private Equity, which stinks; note to Mr Stephen A. Schwarzman]. My support will rise in its enthusiasm when we see significant plans for infrastructure and a relief for student debt. And the full re-institution of affordable healthcare [I prefer a single payer system together with private options, but that is a bridge too far, I reckon].

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @ChuckOrloski
    , @RobinG
  282. @wootendw

    Assad, with his highly intelligent English (Sunni) wife, Asma, are the best persons to reform Syria and make into a nice country.

    Interesting.

    Assad has been in charge for 17.5 years. He reformed the country into a civil war 6 years ago. Which destroyed Syria…the opposite of a “nice country.”

    If I were you, I would read up on the actual history of the Middle-East before you go near a keyboard again.

    In fact, Syria could easily become more prosperous and free than Israel…

    There is just so much not right about this comment…I’m not even gonna start. Have you ever attended school?

    • Troll: polskijoe
    • Replies: @anon
  283. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    and a relief for student debt.

    No, no, no!

  284. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    And you thought Lizard King was the bottom.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  285. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Rico

    Syria has been trying just to survive as a nation for last 16 yrs since the neocons started targeting it on a global scale . Before 2002, it has been subject of targeted sanctions written by the neocon

    Syria also has been attacked periodically by Israel since 2006
    Despite this, the country has been a paradise compared to Palestine (OT) or Iraq or Afghanistan under USA or compared to Honduras or El Salvador

  286. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…all you are engaged in, is a vile fantasy…”

    Actually getting rid of the Jews has happened many, many times in the past. It’s certainly not a fantasy if we are speaking historically.

    “… self-therapy of the most pitiable sort…”

    You of course acknowledge that the thought of no Jews is Therapy to me and many others. You know the long term behavior of the Jews. It’s very bad. The sickness in your people is evident from what they push and do.

    You Jews are kind of stuck. You’re pushing the edge of what you can get away with in the US and Europe. When it tips you’ll be gone once again and this could be at any moment. This time though world wide communication means you’re little trick, “they abused us” when you try to move to a new feeding ground will be null and void. People will know. They won’t want you. Look at the forays into Chile you just tried. Not so successful.

    So maybe you think you can take over the US like Russia. I doubt it. There’s more registered gun owners in just one State, Pennsylvania, than there are soldiers in whole US Army. Doubtful you can get the whole army on your side and to take over will require massacres of which will soon rebound on you.

    Even if your plans work you’re screwed. Let’s say you make Whites a minority which looks like what will happen. The people who you replaced them with hate you much more than the average White ever will. You particular type of parasitism only works around Whites where we’re interested in moral values as individuals and not group orientated like yourself and most every other race on the planet. You will lose out in this mix. Whites of course will be pissed and over time will understand just whose fault this is. Jews and their lackeys. Then you and they will be cast out. Exiled to Israel for possibly tens of thousands of years. Now in the neighborhood of Israel what do you think the people around you feel about you? What will you do when all of you are there and the wrongs you’ve done come to light? What will you do when there is no US army to help you, fight for you?

  287. Incitatus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    S2C!

    “In Dear Adolf’s brief years on this earthly orb, he single-handedly revitalized the German economy…”

    Always marvel at your worship of a guy that poisoned his own dog.

    Sure, killing the new frau and blowing his own brains out was one thing. Could be justified by fear of capture and ridicule. Not quite the fearless übermenschen todeskampf, but nobody’s perfect.

    Why kill Blondi? Was Dolf afraid of widespread K-9 conversion to Bolshevism? A Red Show Trial to shame Alsatians and (shudder) corrupt Dobermans, Rottweillers, Spitzs, Schnauzers, and Jagdterriers?

    Blondi was rumored to be able to give the Hitlergruß. Surely the Reds wouldn’t hold that against her – or her five pups? Guess Dolf thought they would. After snuffing Blondi, Feldwebel Fritz Tornow shot all five puppies. Wonder if he borrowed Dolf’s Walther PPK 7.65 (pretty nasty on a small dog, though better than a 9mm).

    Tough love. Like Joe and Magda’s deep affection for their six offspring. You can be proud.

    National Socialist Mutt Martyrdom is too oft overlooked. In addition to Blondi and pups, Eva’s terriers Negus and Stasi, secretary Frau Gerda Christian’s dogs, and Tornow’s own dachshund paid the ultimate price for the Vaterland. Another heroic chapter in the miraculous Third Reich.

    Lest miscreants blame the Führer, trust you can ferret out causal links to Woodrow, Winnie, FDR, Freemasons, Jews, sunspots, etc. Maybe FDR’s terrier Fala was a zionist canine double-agent? Benny Freedman, Harry Barnes and Murray Rothbard can help via séance. They’re bound to be much more accurate post-mortum.

    When you burn Holocaust texts and stock library shelves with tear-jerker Italian war orphan memoirs, save space for inspirational Nazi animal history. ‘Blondi’s Tale? ‘I Was a Dachshund at Danzig’? ‘Albert the Anschluß Alsatian’? ‘Schnauzers in the SS’? ‘I Shed Fur for the Führer’? ‘Politzei Paws’?

    Think about it. Heart-warming children’s books and animated movies. Merchandising? Sky’s the limit! Be the makin of ya.

    Hope this helps. Best regards to the Bund.

    PS. What secret weapon helped Joe, Winnie, and FDR win the war? Answer: Benny Mussolini’s army.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Sam Shama
  288. Ace says:
    @FB

    :-)

    I’ve known him to make intelligent comments in the past but of late he seems angry about something.

  289. Ace says:
    @jacques sheete

    MW has the definition as “the act or practice of deceiving by means of an assumed character or name.” Thus Spooner is talking about deception, not imposition.

    You have not shown what provisions of the Constitution are prima facie guardians of the interests identified by Nock. The Constitution sought to maximize everyone’s liberty, at least so far as the federal government was concerned. In that it was an immensely moral document.

    Maximizing liberty meant freedom for all interests to pursue their interests. Even successful people had that liberty. Free markets have never been unregulated. Laws against fraud, fraudulent conveyance, trade libel and undue influence and laws protecting private property and enforcing contracts have been necessary to keep the market place honest and functional. The Constitution stood on centuries of common law and equity and was not pulled out of the air.

    Perhaps you believe that the Constitution should have had provisions limiting the accumulation of private wealth and commercial power. But the problem of trusts was not evident in the 18th c. and it was only in the early 20th c. that steps were taken to enact anti-trust laws.

    It’s not unfair to point out that the Constitution, let alone any state or federal legislation, was not and is not approved by all the people at the time or by later generations sought to be bound by it. To require every person to consent to new laws or to retroactively approve laws that have been enacted before their birth is an unworkable system and it has not proved to be oppressive until modern times to require that laws apply to all when enacted in a democratic fashion. As the progressive cancer has spread it’s increasingly accurate to say that laws are, in fact, laws for special interests and privileged minorities hostile to the majority. Overall political legitimacy seems to be the problem, not the failure of individuals to consent to specifics.

    The issues important in the ratification debates were clearly stated and much debated. The Founders were extraordinary men and were, I think, trusted by the majority to have done their best to create something unique and wonderful. The country was not split for decades after ratification by large groups of citizens still nursing grievances over having had the Constitution jammed down their throats.

    Looking at the Founders as duplicitous, self-interested grifters and con men seems like a ludicrous proposition to me and so far what I’ve seen from you is merely that, the assertion that they were interested deceivers.

    I think I’ve answered your question. The Constitution was approved in a public, deliberate fashion by reasonably representative assemblies short of an unworkable requirement that there be universal approval.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @jacques sheete
  290. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    HAHAA. Yes. Do read the full extent of his fantasies in #288. I think I know more gun-owners in the TX chapter of the NRA than this moron, people who would gladly pepper his arse with rock salt shots. LOL

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  291. Zumbuddi says:
    @RobinG

    Chamath in 12 words, ( not including fuck and shit):

    How do you live like a fucking billionsire?

    Step 1. Get a billion fucking dollars.

  292. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus,

    Thank you, thank you! Another keeper for those times when UR fatigue sets in. Enjoyed every word.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @Incitatus
  293. Art says:
    @AnonyMous

    That is a touching picture. Each of those Jew holies have a Pence butt cheek in hand.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Trump says that Pence was disrespected, so he is going to starve the Palestinians until they get on their knees and submit to Javanka.

  294. @Sam Shama

    Thus perspicacious spake Sam Shama to the pragmatist in RobinG:. “The circumstances are these: the entire global economy is constructed to act as a giant hoover which syphons wealth upwards.”

    Hi Maven,

    Am impressed, above; articulate and concise, “The circumstances,” repeat, “The circumstances.”

    What to do now? Let me think. What would Alan Dershowitz do?

    Hm. Got it! Will read fucked-over U.R. commenters their rights.

    Eh hem — Anything all you vacuum-brain goyim say to the Herbert Hoover contrary
    can and will be used against you!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  295. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    After snuffing Blondi, Feldwebel Fritz Tornow shot all five puppies. Wonder if he borrowed Dolf’s Walther PPK 7.65 (pretty nasty on a small dog, though better than a 9mm).

    Didn’t know about this. Bad business, so heart-rending. Think I’m going train my dog [also Alsatian] to despise the Dolfy-Schnurrbart.

    Best

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  296. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    Notice when they’re cornered they just start speaking gibberish that has nothing to do with anything or totally misses the point all together.

    Hey I can do that too!

    Many marsh Men are vacating the the pink colored vacation homes. Not all were kind.

    The clouds may be wispy but the iron particle saturation caused grief to the survivors.

    The two were parallel causing a gasp in the crowd.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @jacques sheete
  297. Sam Shama says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hi Woody,

    Welcome! You always bring a smile to my face. Must confess though, I am unclear as to what you mean to imply here. The ‘hard problem’, at least the early attainable portion of it, is to determine what the level of guaranteed minimum income ought to be, and then, configure an environment necessary to keep society deeply engaged, not in mischief but in good deeds. Any suggestions?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @anonymous
  298. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    The Osmium you’ve got upstairs is impenetrable, and, the admission of speaking gibberish, as you did just now, is evidence of that which is left as a mind-bender for you to solve.

  299. @Sam Shama

    Sam Shama says to InZitatus: . Think I’m going train my dog [also Alsatian] to despise the Dolfy-Schnurrbart.”

    Oh… that’s very interesting, Mave! Especially when memories of Abu Ghraib’s Bow Wow versus Raghead torture-events might (?) have survived.

    Wonder how much “10-Minutes Hate Training” the bad-ass dogs got, those who honorably served with Charles Garner, on the prison’s Naked-Pyramid Building wing?

    Selah Alsatian, Alpo Steroids, Maven Mind Control, and a background check.

  300. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Play it Sam – Sing – “I am a Jew fool, who cannot defend Israel because they are obviously mendacious and cruel, so I attack the truthers with meaningless confusing sentences of 204 type words that cause laughter.”

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Sam do you have any idea how foolish you look with these nothing comments?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Sam Shama
  301. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam,

    Know exactly what you mean about UR fatigue. Recall a ‘Twilight Zone’ character who wakes and repeats the same day, day after day. Exists on Planet Germania. Their script instructs [Brain] Wash, Rinse, Repeat. Between video games and cut-and-paste revisionism. Gets boring.

    Good you’re back – enjoyed posts on sage Murray Rothbard, late bon-vivant of the fabled Ludwig von Mises Institute for Austrian Economics and Swamp Gas. Pity he’s dead – he could’ve easily won an endowed chair from Planter’s Nuts.

    The Blondi business is low. Guessing it’s not in C+D’s ‘Greatest Story Never Told’, but I could be wrong. Makes one think. Mutter Magda poisoning six kids is one thing. But what kinda guy poisons his own dog? Shoots her puppies? Dolf named the pick Wolf, his own nickname.

    Of course Dolf also ordered Speer to blow-up Germany and send the Volk back to the Stone Age. More heroic courage. But his own dog?

    Wager the Bund will find a scapegoat? On second thought, they always ignore inconvenient facts. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

    Best

    • Replies: @Art
  302. L.K says:
    @RBHoughton

    “These are real reasons for those countries but what about America? What’s to be gained by America to justify the costs in blood and treasure? The author does not say.”

    Say what??

    You are not a serious person & clearly you have NOT been reading Giraldi regularly.

    You may want to start here;

    America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/

  303. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    “Configure an environment … keep everyone engaged in good deeds.”

    You getting the nursery school business or restoring plantation life?

    Coordinates so well with Black Lives Mattering .

    You guys can’t resist acting like Atlas astride the world, can you.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  304. L.K says:

    In their article “The People Against the 800 Pound Gorilla( Sept. 2013)” – hated by the usual leftist gatekeeping bastards – Author Diana Johnstone & Belgian professor Jean Bricmont write re the war on Syria:

    “An American friend who knows Washington well recently told us that “everybody” there knows that, as far as the drive to war with Syria is concerned, it is Israel that directs U.S. policy. Why then, we replied, don’t opponents of war say it out loud, since, if the American public knew that, support for the war would collapse? Of course, we knew the answer to that question. They are afraid to say all they know, because if you blame the pro-Israel lobby, you are branded an anti-Semite in the media and your career is destroyed.

    One who had that experience is James Abourezk, former Senator from South Dakota, who has testified: “I can tell you from personal experience that, at least in the Congress, the support Israel has in that body is based completely on political fear – fear of defeat by anyone who does not do what Israel wants done. I can also tell you that very few members of Congress–at least when I served there – have any affection for Israel or for its lobby. What they have is contempt, but it is silenced by fear of being found out exactly how they feel. I’ve heard too many cloakroom conversations in which members of the Senate will voice their bitter feelings about how they’re pushed around by the lobby to think otherwise. In private one hears the dislike of Israel and the tactics of the lobby, but not one of them is willing to risk the lobby’s animosity by making their feelings public.”
    Abourezk added : “The only exceptions to that rule are the feelings of Jewish members, who, I believe, are sincere in their efforts to keep U.S. money flowing to Israel. But that minority does not a U.S. imperial policy make.”[1]

  305. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    Here’s a suggestion— Mind your own damn business.

    Jews can’t run pissant Israel without killing, stealing, blackmailing, yet presume to tell others how to run their own affairs.

    Run your usurious scams & slave import schemes in your own pig pen.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  306. Miro23 says:
    @Ace

    As the progressive cancer has spread it’s increasingly accurate to say that laws are, in fact, laws for special interests and privileged minorities hostile to the majority. Overall political legitimacy seems to be the problem, not the failure of individuals to consent to specifics.

    When you have a hyper rich elite, and economic inequality on a historic scale that exceeds the extremes of the pre WW1 British aristocracy or pre WW1 Czarist Russia, then the elite are certainly going to be worried, especially since many of them are from the Jewish minority, and they are living in a supposed Democracy.

    Elite paranoia means that they’re going to maximize defensive barriers such as PC rules, the “greed is good” narrative, a 100% compliant media, bought and blackmailed politicians and Homeland Security along with the deconstruction of the Anglo world (the majority group they have recently displaced) in every possible way.

    This probably explains the total elite horror at the election of an American nationalist (Trump), despite their maximum coordinated efforts to stop him. If Trump can overpower them, what other bad things could happen??

    It doesn’t really matter that they have neutered Trump himself – his base is still sitting there, and the next Trump may not be so compliant or easy to blackmail. And there’s also the question of the current speculative bubble – when that goes (probably taking the US dollar with it) – then public discontent over further impoverishment may be uncontrollable.

    • Replies: @Ace
  307. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Do you babble from subject to subject like this all the time — really Hitler’s dog!

    Fifty-five people died in WWII and you go on about a dog.

    Are the Hasbara Central folks now going after the dog lovers? Are they a new victim group to be cultivated into their stable of suckers?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Say I have a question – when you Hasbara lemmings go for a pack run – do they make you not-Jews run in the back of that pack.

  308. @Ace

    The Constitution was approved in a public, deliberate fashion by reasonably representative assemblies short of an unworkable requirement that there be universal approval.

    Dream on. In what way was it public? Reasonably representative? Tsk tsk.

    Read Nock’s article. He ‘splains it to ya, not that you want to be faced with the truth. Key points are that the delegates were supposed to amend the Articles of Confederation, not cook up a centralized authority, the convention met in secret, it would have never been ratified in any case if a Bill of Rights hadn’t been tacked on to make it palatable and acceptable for ratification, and the vast majority of the country had no say in it.

    The constitution was imposed on “us” and still is. Sorry to have burst your bubble and the only thing you’ve accomplished is to demonstrate your ignorance and sophomoric duplicity.

    • Replies: @Ace
  309. @Sam J.

    Notice when they’re cornered they just start speaking gibberish that has nothing to do with anything or totally misses the point all together.

    Exactly.

    Oh, but they’re sooo clever! Hehehehe!

  310. @Art

    p.s. Sam do you have any idea how foolish you look with these nothing comments?

    That’s why I quit reading such garbage. It was getting so cringe-worthy that I was feeling embarrassed for it, especially with the quasi-erudite expressions of pure B.S. that were so artlessly presented to impress us dumb goyim.

  311. @L.K

    the support Israel has in that body is based completely on political fear – fear of defeat by anyone who does not do what Israel wants done.

    The whole backward, infantile, mafia organization appears based on terror; mind control, threats real and imaginary, and assassination to name a few.

  312. @L.K

    That crew were responsible for US involvement in both world wars as well. Wilson and his butt buddy House had Baruch and who knows who else as their handlers, then there’s this sort of thing.:

    Franklin Roosevelt enjoyed the overwhelming support of American Jews during his presidency, and the reasons are clear. In his three-plus terms from 1933 to 1945, he led the war against Hitler, [ed: while supporting Stalin the bloody mass murderer and his Bolshie police state] and his supported a Jewish homeland in Palestine, appointed a Jew to the Supreme Court, chose another to be his secretary of the Treasury and surrounded himself with Jewish advisers who helped shape the laws that revolutionized the role of government in American life — what some critics sneeringly called the “Jew Deal.” Then, of course, there was Eleanor Roosevelt, whose concern for minorities fused the bond even tighter. When Roosevelt died in 1945, the Rabbinical Assembly of America described him, almost supernaturally, as an “immortal leader of humanity and a peerless servant of God.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/books/review/fdr-and-the-jews-by-richard-breitman-and-allan-j-lichtman.html

    That scum pack has been using the US to make the word a shithole for over a century if not more. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were responsible for using the US to punish Spain for kicking them out.

    Short read, written in 1935, many features recognizable today although the US empire has supplanted the Brit one.

    -Leslie Fry, “the Jews and the British Empire,” 1935

    https://archive.org/stream/FryLeslieTheJewsAndTheBritishEmpire/Fry_Leslie_-_The_jews_and_the_British_Empire_djvu.txt

  313. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    Do you know how cadaverous you appear depositing the same dead nonsense in 99% of your own posts? I wrote what I thought was totally appropriate to a tiresome fool who, in his own words proclaimed “I want no intercourse with Jews” and “All Jews have the genes for Psychopathy”. Of course, I am fully aware that is your own wet dream. However, two observations:

    (1) these wet dreams are just that, figments of your night sweats and

    (2) even the worst of the shameless, pitiable fools ought to realise that by commenting on the UR they are accepting the good graces of a Jew who champions free speech. IOW the yelping curs are biting the hand which feeds them. If these dogs including yourself and that vacuous fool Jacues Shit, are so soured of Jews, if they are so determined to stay away from Jewish contact, why do they accept our host’s generous invitation? Why do they not form their own webzine? Do you know why? Because you are all shameless, impotent ranters. Nothing else. It is one thing to have strong opinions on Israeli policy, however, it is the lowest of lows, the most contemptible behaviour, to come here daily, accept the generosity of a Jew [whatever his views] and then yelp like the dogs you are “We want to have no intercourse with Jews”.

    Do you understand now?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Art
    , @Sam J.
    , @Sam J.
  314. helena says:
    @AnonyMous

    I can’t understand Christians who put on Judaism. Teresa May does it too. And so did William Bradford – at the end of his life he taught himself Hebrew to re-read the bible to find out why his colony hadn’t work the way it was supposed to have.

    I thought I had just found a piece of Jewish built-civilisation but then it turned out to have been built by a Roman centurion. http://www.capernaum.custodia.org/default.asp?id=5390

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  315. Sam Shama says:
    @anonymous

    By your own accounts, or at least those of fellow travellers, we already own the nursery school business. This, therefore, is for the plantation scheme which will secure your position as the head Mandingo.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  316. Sam Shama says:
    @helena

    Hello Helana,
    I might be able to shed some light on this subject. The name is actually based on the Hebrew Kfar Nahum [ כְּפַר נַחוּם ], which means the Village of Nahum. The original architects and designers were Hebrew and, the later church was also constructed by a Hebrew architect. It is, therefore, properly categorised as Judaeo-Christian.

    Capernaum fulfilled such a central role in the life of Jesus that it was sometimes called “the town of Jesus.” As the New Testament describes it: “And leaving Nazareth, He came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is by the sea…” (Matt 4:13). Here in Capernaum and its surroundings Jesus chose his Apostles.

    Remains were unearthed here during excavations of a residential quarter from the time of the Second Temple. Its private dwellings were usually built out of basalt, which was the most common local rock. A typical home consisted of an unroofed courtyard surrounded by rooms that opened onto it. Rooms occasionally opened outward; these were apparently shops. The quality of construction shows the community was a simple one.

    Remains of the synagogue discovered in Capernaum, however, were more opulent. The synagogue was built of well-carved limestone, its façade adorned with floral, faunal and geometric patterns. Some of the designs, like the seven-branched candelabra carved onto a Corinthian capital, clearly show their Jewish origins. One unique stone relief is a cart bearing a structure that looks like a shrine. Some scholars believe the image was meant to represent the Ark of the Covenant being borne into battle against the Philistines.

    http://www.parks.org.il/sites/English/ParksAndReserves/capernaum/Pages/default.aspx

  317. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    iow
    “I know I am but so are you, and double-twice. Na Na Na Na na”

    Grow up Sam.
    Ron is not running a nursery school either.

    Nor a stable.
    Take your dog and pony show and join some other circus.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  318. @Sam Shama

    Maven Shama pontificates to Art and “shameless” all: “Because you are all shameless, impotent ranters. Nothing else. It is one thing to have strong opinions on Israeli policy, however, it is the lowest of lows, the most contemptible behaviour, to come here daily, accept the generosity of a Jew [whatever his views] and then yelp like the dogs you are…”

    Hi Maven,

    I’m in awe of your consistent arrogance and insatiable need to articulately talk down to U.R. commenters!

    You are an asshole…,
    but saying such does not necessarily mean that I selfishly do not appreciate your advanced skill set; notably bombarding the topics upon which Phil Giraldi writes and explaining (in earnest) the goodness & supreme value of the incredible ZUS debt economy.

    A fair question, Mave.

    Re; P. Giraldi’s weekly “strong opinions” here at the U.R. which thrives because of a Jew’s “generosity.”

    Do you think (what I consider) “lowest of low” goyim-Comstocks at T.A.C. did ZUS a service by tossing Giraldi into a Fahrenheit 451 bonfire for his unacceptable articles?

    Selah Ray Bradbury.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @L.K
  319. @anonymous

    Grow up Sam.

    Never happen.

    Zionism itself is an infantile reaction to a neutral (some good, some bad) world. The whole movement is an political temper tantrum.

    Izzy firsters are too busy preening themselves over “their” groups’ Nobel Prizes and “high IQs” to notice that they are little more than useful coxcombs for their masters. They aren’t even savvy enough to know that they’re being duped.

  320. @ChuckOrloski

    Maven Shama pontificates to Art and “shameless” all: “Because you are all shameless, impotent ranters.

    We’re all shameless impotent ranters? Why would a humble, powerful, intelligent wanker bother writing something like that?

    Pontificate? Good one! Ha ha haaaa!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  321. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    even the worst of the shameless, pitiable fools ought to realise that by commenting on the UR they are accepting the good graces of a Jew who champions free speech

    I do not know Mr. Unz’s Jewishness or lack thereof — he most likely does not like all that is posted about Jews on this blog. But on the other hand, he must approve some of it.

    Clearly, he does genuinely believe in free speech. That is rare among Jews. There is nothing wrong with the Jew culture, that free speech would not greatly help. Jesus said that “the truth will set you free” – those are the most important words ever spoked by a human being. (What fools you Jews are, he is one of yours and you hate him.)

    Of course, you think that Jew culture is elevated above all others. Why is that, when you can see the wrongness of the culture so vividly exposed in Israel. Apartheid, summery killing, torture, squatting, jailing without trial, aberrant militarism, and the destabilization of neighbors. How can you ignore all that?

    I believe that Jew elders poison their children’s minds. That they traumatize your immature brains with fear and arrogance. That is how your 204 can subconsciously ignore Jew wrong doing. From the age of five, you are forever chained to your Jewishness. How sad. You are not free.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  322. Hey You Guys — jacques sheete, rurik, Talha, RobinG, ChuckOrloski, Art & Others of the basket of Unz deplorables that I may have neglected to name –

    This is getting boring.

    Phil, you know I love ya, guy, but pointing out Israel’s many crimes against the American people has worn an ugly rut across the beautiful landscape of my brain. It’s that time of year when the seed catalogs come out and plans for the garden get made.

    Here’s what I’d like to try out in my brain garden this season:

    While reading Douglas Reed’s Controversy of Zion, I did some quick comparative timelines: In the same eras/timeframes that the Judahites and Levites were busy planning how they could terrorize their own people and kill other people, the pre-Socratics, influenced by the Persians, were developing the foundational theories of western civilization’s philosophy (tho why it’s called “western” is a mystery, since it emerged from the East + the Greek-Anatolian conjunction of East and West).

    Here’s what Prof. Timothy Shutt has to say about the pre-Socratics of Miletus and the Greek islands:

    THE ROOTS of philosophy not in Athens but in IONIA, on the other side of the Aegean, in Miletus in west coast of Turkey.
    THRIVING at time Greek/Ionian philosophy was born and declined when rebelled against Persian, never recovered.
    Miletus FAR more influential, more prosperous, far more involved in Trade than Athens, lesson: trade & commerce more beneficial than war; Ionia was FAR MORE dynamic & vital under Persia.

    In that commercial entrepôt and rich cultural mix that philosophy began. “THIS is one of the most important and indeed arguably —and I would argue, in fact, THE single most important contribution of Hellenic culture to western culture as a whole; in a nutshell, systematic rationality: the notion that the best and the most profitable and truest and most useful means of making sense both of the natural world and the human world is NOT recourse to tradition, not
    even recourse to revealed texts, but systematic examination of and reflection upon evidence in rational terms.

    He then identifies the Four large principles that this emerging philosophy developed:

    Cosmos — same root as cosmetics — ordering or adorning things; to call the universe all that exists a cosmos implies that there is a rational order under lying everything which we see.
    This is a KEYNOTE idea of pre Socratic philosophers,
    to which we adhere without serious demur or doubt,
    universally — secular, nonsecular, religious or not; it is an idea which has an immense future in front of it
    Physis, as in Physics, what we would call NATURE,
    Physical instantiation of that Cosmic order in process, in motion
    Order revealed in material things and in time
    This Greek concept differs from what went before in that it, too, operates in rationally accessible processes

    Archae — as in archeology. Archae means Origin,
    in one sense, temporal origin, the first things, but
    in another sense LOGICAL or causal origin, the thing that gives rise to everything else.
    A concern about the archae of something is necessarily a concern about how that thing is structured and about how that thing expresses itself in time
    Logos — all of the above expressed in LOGOS — word; . . . the Gospel of John begins with, In the beginning [archeo] was the word [logos] . . .

    Freshmen in a halfway decent liberal arts program might have learned these things, but to me they were a breath of fresh air.
    Over the last month or so I’ve been attending services at Christian & Unitarian churches. They might as well be AIPAC conferences.

    I wanted to find another approach to a question Rurik asked: where do we go for a life-affirming, soul-enobling system of beliefs? [pardon the wild paraphrase!]


    After noticing the disparities between the discoveries of the Levites/Judahites vs the Greeks, I next started to try to understand The Aeneid. Virgil lived, wrote and died within a few years of Jesus; his work dominated — dominated — literature of Europe for about 1500 years.

    Did Hebrew scripture have the same sort of presence in the minds of Europeans over that same period of time — that is, did as many Europeans even have access to HEBREW books of ‘bible’ between 1 AD and the late 3rd century when the Septuagint was translated to Greek?

    The ‘New Testament’ was not canonized until about the same time (I think).

    SO — what spiritual influence might The Aeneid have had on, specifically, the New Testament, and would it be a good idea if we returned to those principles in preference to the linkage of New Testament to ‘Old Testament’ that Douglas Reed disparages, and that has wrought so much murder and mayhem to the centuries?

    The linked-together bible has been available in vernaculars for less time than The Aeneid dominated.

    in my humble — some would say doglike, bunkerish, deplorable– opinion much of the Old Testament sucks and should be relegated to the trash heap of history.

    The Greeks established eternal principles.
    Much of New Testament built upon those principles.

    I don’t want to lead the crusade to rehabilitate Hitler (though I insist on Justice for Germans/Germany);
    I don’t want to lead the crusade to vanquish zionism (though deo volente that will come about of ‘its own internal nastiness’)

    I want to see a Renaissance of the profound Graeco-Roman heritage.

    I don’t have the facts at my fingertips to support it, but I’m pretty sure US Founders were intimately acquainted with those sources of wisdom and inspiration.

    Revitalization of US’s Graeco-Roman heritage simultaneously restores that which was best in foundation of USA.

    In my neck of the woods a lot of churches have been turned into restaurants, bars, even a sail-makers shop.

    I say, close down the holocaust museums/freak shows.

    Turn them into cathedrals to Miletus, Socrates, Virgil, Dante, Milton —

  323. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    I do not know Mr. Unz’s Jewishness or lack thereof — he most likely does not like all that is posted about Jews on this blog. But on the other hand, he must approve some of it.

    What he approves of or what he doesn’t, is not the point. As a believer in free speech, he allows it all. What is being questioned by me is your utter lack of balance, not to speak of normal shame that ought to prevent anyone from constantly insulting the religion of their host, who, again, may or may not be religious. It is at least akin to going into the home of an atheist, perhaps a former Christian, and calling Jesus a scumbag, a rabble-rouser, a traumatiser of children etc. How well do you think that would sit with your host? As I said, you chaps are utterly devoid of simple balance and manners and therefore, fully deserve what I give back in kind.

    Jesus said that “the truth will set you free”

    Ask Jesus to impart some manners to you and your fellow travellers and that will get you to propound your views in polite company or, you’ll forever remain at the fringes.

    Of course, you think that Jew culture is elevated above all others.

    Never have, Never will.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @MEexpert
    , @Art
  324. @jacques sheete

    Jacques said: “Pontificate? Good one! Ha ha haaaa!”

    Given empowerment, I believe the Maven would issue his tribal-equivalent to a “fatwa” upon us.

    Thanks, Jacques.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  325. L.K says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski to Zionist rat Shameless: “You are an asshole…”

    He is indeed… plus, he is the enemy.

    Not only of the ZUSA, no, he & his ilk are the enemies of mankind.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  326. Sam Shama says:
    @L.K

    …., he & his ilk are the enemies of mankind.

    You forgot; that would be your forebearers who chose to mate with reptiles. Yet there is hope in that choice for Mankind, as hybrids are incapable of procreation.

  327. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Perhaps you can identify Palihapitiya’s 150 rulers of the world? And whether their investments decree our state of militarism and angst? Are they the really deep Deep State?

    A month after Stanford, Chamath was on CNBC. Besides defending his Stanford remarks, he pitched his companies and Bitcoin. Struck me as a con, Bitcoin being the ultimate scalable ponzi scheme. I put this down to his continued “Get Money” strategy. Then he can fund his long-term projects in health care and education.

    But Bitcoin alarms me in a visceral paranoid way. Will we become cashless? Will a child not be able to buy candy at the corner store without a cellphone? In parts of DC it’s already impossible to use the parking meters w/o a credit card or smart phone … i.e., they want a record of who parked there, and when, and for how long. Using bitcoin, won’t every transaction be recorded? There will be no privacy. Do I have this right?

    The example he gave of a ‘hard problem’ is global warming. It is irrelevant what’s causing it. If/when the oceans rise, more people will have to squeeze onto less land. He says, be prepared. That’s what our military is doing. (So, certain new infrastructure should move inland, for one thing.)

    A sample, not a gist. ;)

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  328. Ace says:
    @Miro23

    The cat got out of the bag with the passage of the 16th Amendment authorizing an income tax with no upper limit. After that there was simply no hope that individuals or groups could stand up against the financial resources of the central state. As Robert Bork stated, the Supreme Court simply ceased to defend the Commerce Clause in the 1930s and thereafter there was no limit on what Congress would do.

    Today, for example, not one member of Congress objects to federal involvement in providing health care on the basis that “health care” is nowhere mentioned in Art. I, Sect. 8. In the same way, the U.S. can unconstitutionally engage in military operations in and wage aggressive war on Syria without fear of congressional or popular objection, the outcry over possibly bombing Syria after it allegedly crossed Obama’s red line being an apparent exception.

    Anti-Russia hysteria and NATO provocations of Russia continue at warp speed, national borders remain wide open, and tens of thousands of U.S. factories now operate in China. None of these is remotely of interest to, or in the interest of, the putative sovereign people. The cherry on top of this is the intellectual collapse of the elite who advance propositions — homosexual marriage, feminism, worship of minorities and hostile, economic migrants, stagnant citizen wages, metissage, structural racism, white privilege, abortion as sacrament, single motherhood, “hate” speech, living Constitution, “climate change,” “gender” “dysphoria,” media monopoly, affirmative action, and anti-white hatred, for example — that are simply absurd.

    None of this is remotely defensible and the elites’ resort to the use of AntiFa enforcers and hostility to proponents of a functional civilization are a mark of desperation, an admission that they cannot compete intellectually on substantive matters.

    The elite are still basically untouchable but the whole American enterprise now drifts inexorably into Herb Stein territory where what can’t go on, won’t. Loss of the Mandate of Heaven territory will soon be ours to explore, so corrupt and debased is the vaunted progressive alternative to the Western civilization so hated by Jessie Jackson.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  329. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    The Greeks established eternal principles.
    Much of New Testament built upon those principles.

    Quite so. Yet no doctrine remains completely relevant over the arc of history; not Aristotle’s entire body of thought, nor certainly every word of the Bible.

    I don’t want to lead the crusade to rehabilitate Hitler (though I insist on Justice for Germans/Germany);

    Imagine the consequences if you really, really, chose to lead that crusade! Battle stations!

    I don’t have the facts at my fingertips to support it, but I’m pretty sure US Founders were intimately acquainted with those sources of wisdom and inspiration.

    Here are a few tips for your fingers:

    The Pilgrims arriving on these shores were imbued with a sense of destiny openly proclaimed as inspirations drawn from Biblical motifs of Hebrews fleeing the Pharaoh (see Abraham Katsch, The Biblical Heritage of American Democracy)

    Many of the Founding Fathers were trained Hebrew scholars, went to the elite schools of this country – which, to this day, preserve their mottos in Biblical Hebrew – and gave their commencement speeches in Hebrew.

    It was once contemplated that the Constitution be written in Hebrew.

    Take it from George Washingon who wrote invoking the Prophet Micah, to the members of a Rhode Island synagogue:

    “May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in the land continue to merit and enjoy the goodwill of the other inhabitants. While everyone shall sit safely under his own vine and fig-tree and there shall be none to make him afraid.”

    Or take John Adams in a letter to F.A. Van Der Kemp, 16 February 1809:

    “… I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations. If I were an atheist of another sect… I should still believe that chance had ordered the Jews to preserve and propagate for all mankind the doctrine of a supreme, intelligent, wise almighty sovereign of the universe, which I believe to be the great essential principle of all morality, and consequently of all civilization… They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this earth. The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more, and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern.” As quoted in: Allan Gould, What Did They Think of the Jews, (New Jersey, 1997), pp. 71-72.

    So Hebrew, or more precisely the Bible in Hebrew is very much a part of this great nation.

    In my neck of the woods a lot of churches have been turned into restaurants, bars, even a sail-makers shop.

    Did you and your fellow citizens not pay your Church dues? Even the good friars need to make a living….

    • Replies: @helena
    , @Sam J.
    , @Sam J.
    , @Sam J.
  330. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    Righto. Interesting and relevant ruminations, all. Permit me to take a shot at it tomorrow.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  331. Ace says:
    @jacques sheete

    Jacques, the Constitution was ratified without the Bill of Rights. You can look it up.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  332. helena says:
    @Sam Shama

    Journalist Richard Brookhiser wrote that Adams’ Puritan ancestors “believed they lived in the Bible. England under the Stuarts was Egypt; they were Israel fleeing … to establish a refuge for godliness, a city upon a hill.”[wiki]

    not at all paranoid

  333. Maven Shama pontificated to Art (in particular) & the general U.R. population: “As I said, you chaps are utterly devoid of simple balance and manners and therefore, fully deserve what I give back in kind.”

    Hi L.K.,

    Indeed he should not be merely relegated to being an “asshole.”

    Agreed — The Maven always comments “out of his ass.” With condescending intent, he spouts off egghead words which he foolishly thinks covers the emoted stench of decay…, and in meantime he dispatches the lost Little Orphan iffen to a dictionary.

    But is he “an Enemy of mankind?” Hm. Let me think.

    Answer: Yes, L.K., the Maven Shama is an enemy to mankind. The Graeco-reasoning employed, which perhaps S2C may appreciate, can be easily confirmed by his arrogant & pontifical words (above) spoken to Art and other “chaps.”

    Anyone/Anything that obsessively strives to make the human specie’s historical, economic, and socio-political AWARENESS utterly “lesser,” becomes mankind worst Enemy.

    But Maven Shama’s presence here has value-in-reverse.

    For example, for each unbalanced & Israeli biased-comments he offers on P. Giraldi articles, I estimate (on average) > 10 intelligent & sane comments are mockingly generated in response.

    Not to shabby, eh L.K.? Thanks!

  334. @ChuckOrloski

    Given empowerment, I believe the Maven would issue his tribal-equivalent to a “fatwa” upon us.

    Careful there…anyone with an IQ of 204 could doubtlessly fashion an evil golem and infuse it with power through secret, magical incantations and such!

    Maybe we should get us some clay and make our own Golem of Prague to protect us.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  335. @Ace

    The cat got out of the bag with the passage of the 16th Amendment authorizing an income tax with no upper limit.

    Hmm, ya don’t say…Where did that power come from? Was it a result of popular demands or was it imposed on them? (Think Shay’s (tax) Rebellion.)

    The elite are still basically untouchable…

    And now we know the answer to one of George Mason’s concerns about the proposed “popular” document.

    This Government will commence in a moderate Aristocracy; it is at prese[nt] impossible to foresee whether it will, in it’s operation, produce a Monarchy, or a corrupt oppressive Aristocracy…

    - George Mason’s Objections [to the proposed constitution], September 1787

    http://edu.lva.virginia.gov/docs/MasonsObjections.pdf

  336. @Ace

    Jacques, the Constitution was ratified without the Bill of Rights. You can look it up.

    By 5 (of 13) states, and with the proviso that the amendments known as the Bill of Rights be added immediately.

    So, your point is?

    My point still is that the constitution was not a popular document and that it was imposed on all but the ruling aristocracy of the time.

    It was a huge link in the yoke around our necks and was in effect a counter revolutionary act. It nullified much of what the people fought and went into debt for.

  337. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “… yelping curs are biting the hand which feeds them…”

    HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    Jews complain about biting the hand that feeds them

    HAHAHHAHHHAHAHHHHAA

    As for psychopaths. I said that I might be wrong that a large number of Jews are psychopaths but that the end effect of any large number of Jews moving into a country is EXACTLY the same as a tribe of psychopaths moving in so if you assume they are a tribe of psychopaths you will be able to confidently predict their behavior.

    Psychopaths are only able to work their magic where people trust them to act like normal people and be reasonably honest. Once you know their psychopaths it’s very simple. Believe nothing they say and get rid of them. Get them away for you. This is the answer to the Jew problem.

    I can see that part of this is going into effect as no one believes a damn word you people say. Now we just need to follow through on getting rid of them by any means possible. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go no matter what.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  338. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…Because you are all shameless…”

    Jews calling people shameless.

    HAHHHHAHAHAHHAHAAAA

  339. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…Jesus said that “the truth will set you free”…”

    Oh I love it when you quote scripture. It warms my heart. Jesus also said,

    JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, 8:44 “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. – then answered the Jews — ” (which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)

    I think that’s fairly clear.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  340. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…It was once contemplated that the Constitution be written in Hebrew…”

    Holy smokes the lies never end. What whoppers. Hitler talked about this that the Jews told such complete whoppers of lies that a normal person knowing he would never do such a thing from shame might even believe them until…everyone knows most everything they say is a lie.

    Don’t lose faith dear people. The Jews have been thrown out of EVERY single country they’ve ever been to. No one can stand psychopaths but so long. After time builds they reach the edge of their tolerance and they get rid of them, The goal is to get rid of them. They’re so persecuted? Well let them go to their shitty little country. There’s no walls holding you in like the prisons the Jews built in the commie countries after WWII.

  341. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…John Adams in a letter to F.A. Van Der Kemp, 16 February 1809:

    “… I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation…”

    It wouldn’t surprise me in even the most minute slightest that some Jew forged that letter. We shouldn’t believe anything the Jews say.

    Fake news, Fake letters, Fake people.

  342. MEexpert says:
    @Sam Shama

    “Jew” is not a religion. Judaism is. Also not all Jews are Semites. The comments posted at UR are against the Jews/ Zionists/neocons. Mr. Unz allowing this conversation on this site is a testament to his integrity and respect for free speech. This can hardly be said about Israel where they pass all kinds of laws to shut down free speech, not only in Israel but also in other countries around the world. It can also be said that there are some “good” Jews.

  343. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    “…Maybe we should get us some clay and make our own Golem of Prague to protect us…”

    I’m way ahead of all of you. My Golem is made of carbon fiber and Geopolymers!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  344. @Anon

    It worked well in Marbury vs. Madison, though Chief Justice Marshall used the case to create the federal judiciary whole-cloth from it. In the present matter, who would have standing to present a writ of mandamus?

  345. @Sam J.

    I can see that part of this is going into effect as no one believes a damn word you people say.

    That would be a fine start. Another great leap forward will happen when people assume that the truth is much more often than not exactly the opposite of what they say.

    So old 204 was quoting Jesus? Now that beats all. Enough to gag a maggot.

  346. @Sam J.

    It wouldn’t surprise me in even the most minute slightest that some Jew forged that letter.

    True. Because here’s what he said about government…you know the “civilizing influence” of de “learned”Hebrews, ya know.

    “While all other Sciences have advanced, that of Government is at a stand; little better understood; little better practiced now than three or four thousand years ago.”
    - John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, Jul. 9, 1813.

    “There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.”

    - John Adams

    Here’s what he said about debt… I wonder what his Hebrew friends woulda thunk.

    “All the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arise, not from want of honor or virtue, but from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.”
    - John Adams, Letter to Thomas Jefferson, August 25, 1787.

    “The consequences arising from the continual accumulation of public debts in other countries ought to admonish us to be careful to prevent their growth in our own.”
    - John Adams, First Address to Congress, Nov. 23, 1797.

  347. @Sam J.

    Yeah, but is it blessed with magic and incantations from da rebbeh? ;)

  348. @Sam J.

    It wouldn’t surprise me in even the most minute slightest that some Jew forged that letter. We shouldn’t believe anything the Jews say.

    True and true.

    It was John Adams who complained about the Amsterdam bankers. Guess who they might have been.

    I feel myself obliged … to put you on your Guard against the immeasurable avarice of Amsterdam as well as the ungovernable Rage of Speculation…

    The Truth is that Messrs. Willinks and Vanstaphorst have been purchasing immense Quantities of American Paper, and they now want to have it acknowledged and paid in Europe.

    If a Precedent is set of paying them in Europe, I pretend not to Sufficient foresight to predict the Consequences. They appear however to me to be horrid. If the Interest of one Million Dollars is paid this Year in Europe, you will find the Interest of Ten Millions demanded next year.

    The Interest of our Commissioners, of the Brokers, Undertakers and Money Lenders, all conspire to induce them to prevent a failure.

    Depend upon it, the Amsterdammers love Money too well, to execute their Threats. They expect to gain too much by American Credit to destroy it.

    -Letter, From John Adams To Thomas Jefferson , 12 February 1788, London

    Yup, debt, I’m told, is good. Tsk, tsk.

  349. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    In case you have room for home entertainment, suitable for children even, this has only gotten better with age. Evergreen plot and themes. “… adventures of a motley crew of swindlers and ne’er-do-wells trying to claim land rich in uranium deposits in Kenya …”
    Beat The Devil (1953)

  350. @SolontoCroesus

    SolontoCroesus reasonably said to a few of us guys & gals: “This is getting boring… I want to see a Renaissance of the profound Graeco-Roman heritage.”

    Hi S2C,

    You know what? Upon reading about your expressed “boredom,” I ran an experiment.

    Having set my mind as if I were a Zio employed Goyim-Thought-Process-Monitor Specialist, I reread random comments on this particular article, and “boredom” vividly set in.

    Consequently, S2C, I appreciate your enthusiasm for a restorative “Renaissance of the profound Graeco-Roman heritage” here at the U.R. comment section.

    However, and please do not take me as a candyass “Party Pooper,” but ZUSland has undergone > 50 years of gradual demoralization, and due to the fact that the most popular known “Homer” is the Simpson’s patriarch, I can not see a “Graeco-Roman Renaissance” flying here.

    Please, please, please consider the important video, linked below?

    A respectful thanks, SolontoCroesus!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  351. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    What is being questioned by me is your utter lack of balance

    Really - balance – when are you balanced – how about the Jew MSM, how about congress, how about Trump?

    When they are all balanced – promise – I will no longer make comments against Israel.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  352. @ChuckOrloski

    I feel unclean. I can’t be brainwashed.

    BTW, If they’re so smart, why are they always victims? If they’re so bright, how could they be subject to “The” holocaust?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  353. @Art

    Really – balance – when are you balanced…

    C’mon, Art, don’t you know yer s’posed ta go easy on the poor lil victims? (Like they do?) ;)

  354. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…Or take John Adams in a letter to F.A. Van Der Kemp, 16 February 1809:

    “… I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. ..”

    You forgot the part where he says,”…I cannot say that I love the Jews very much…”

    Then he goes on to talk about the bank swindlers!

    “…Our medium is depreciated by the multitude of swindling
    banks…”

    Look I can cut and paste, just like the Joos!

  355. Sam J. says:

    Just to give you people who are dumbfounded at the destruction the Jews have caused a little more hope I will call you’re attention to this. Firefox browser’s new built in system for distributed internet.

    https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2018/01/26/extensions-firefox-59/

    “…Support for Decentralization Protocols

    Mozilla has always been a proponent of decentralization, recognizing that it is a key ingredient of a healthy Internet. Starting with Firefox 59, several protocols that support decentralized architectures are available for use by extensions. The newly approved protocols are:

    Dat Project (dat://)
    IPFS (dweb:// ipfs:// ipns://)
    Secure Scuttlebutt (ssb://) …”

    What does this mean. This means they will no longer be able to control who has a site saying what. Also this means that sites will be distributed all over, everywhere and no one can sensor them. An example let’s say you like the “The Big Ole We love White People”(TBOWLWPS) site. Of course the Jews would want to shut that down immediately but they will not be able to. Let’s say you visit (TBOWLWPS) site and realize, hey I’m White and I don’t hate myself, you could be a server yourself for the site by hitting a button link. You could save a little piece of that site on your computer and anytime anyone wanted to look at the site you and millions of other White people, who don’t hate themselves either, would serve the site super fast. It’s like BitTorrent but instead of movies or books or whatever it serves sites. There’s a bunch of these. Zeronet is another. They’re not all together yet but they’re moving up in usefulness very fast. So when they say they’ll censor us we will just laugh at them and their puny threats. White people will use our natural inventiveness and desire for an open and free society to route around the evil Jewish Oligarchs.

  356. helena says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    It is West because “qui ex Patri (Filioque) procedit”

    The Filioque turns the philosophy from 3×1/3=3 to 3+1=4. And since 3×4=12, the Filioque is a Development threshold. Emanation is the principle of science too, no coincidence.

  357. helena says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology_of_Israel

    Persian period[edit]
    This section is empty. You can help by adding to it. (September 2013)

    Hellenistic period[edit]
    This section is empty. You can help by adding to it. (September 2013)

  358. @Sam J.

    SamJ, I do so appreciate your presence here, fine chap, ( I’m saying this in the quasi-erudite tone of one we’re supposed to be so impressed with), great catch. You are so quite right to follow through on this. Superb!

    I woulda never guessed that the “smart” one would offer something taken outta context…

    After waxing admiringly about the Hebrews, Adams adds this.:

    “I cant Say that I love the Jews very much neither.”

    I do so wonder if our boy wonder makes a distinction between Jews and Hebrews…

    Tsk, tsk.

    Here’s a tidbit more to explicate ( I meant “here’s an example,” but I’m trying to impress folks ala 204), what Adams knew of his subject.

    They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this earth. The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more, and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern.” As quoted in: Allan Gould, What Did They Think of the Jews, (New Jersey, 1997), pp. 71-72.

    https://kenspiro.com/article/history-crash-course-55-jews-and-the-founding-of-america/

    I wonder if Izzy-firsters are a religious sect nowadays. Are all Israelis Hebrews? Jews? Are all Hebrews Israelis? Are all Jews Israelis?

    Note the source of that last quote. There appears to be a whole genre of history twisted into propaganda favoring the eternal victims. It’s as risible ans it is desperate.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  359. @Sam J.

    SamJ, I’m so thrilled that you brought up the subject of F.A. Van Der Kamp.

    He’s one interesting character from what I can ascertain( I mean gather) to date ( I mean so far).

    Anyway, he appears to have been a slaveholder and was somewhat of a rambunctious sort and one who was opposed to the Orangists, and as we all know, Jewish financial power was transferred from Amsterdam to London under William III of Orange whose invasion of Britain was financed by two Jews, (Ferdinand Carvajal of London, and Isaac Suasso of Amsterdam), so I find it interesting that Adams should praise Hebrews to him.

    These are particularly fascinating bits of history and I bet I know where they lead…

  360. Kolo says:
    @L.K

    In other words Mossad
    Cough cough

  361. @SolontoCroesus

    I don’t have the facts at my fingertips to support it, but I’m pretty sure US Founders were intimately acquainted with those [Greek and Roman]sources of wisdom and inspiration.

    I suspect you’re correct.

    In marked contrast was the “Hebrew” influence on some of the biggest nutcases, the (witch burning and Quaker persecuting) Puritans. Far from the Hebrew influence being a civilizing one as John Adams claimed, here’s a quote from a most interesting though typically propagandistic, article. The article highlights, too, the Hebrew influence on the Puritan fanatics.

    So popular was the Hebrew Language in the late 16th and early 17th centuries that several students at Yale delivered their commencement orations in Hebrew. Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Brown, Princeton, Johns Hopkins, and the University of Pennsylvania taught courses in Hebrew ― all the more remarkable because no university in England at the time offered it. (In America, Bible study and Hebrew were course requirements in virtually all these colleges and students had the option of delivering commencement speeches in either Hebrew, Latin or Greek.)2)

    Many of the population, including a significant number of the Founding Fathers of America, were products of these American Universities ― for example, Thomas Jefferson attended William and Mary, James Madison Princeton, Alexander Hamilton King’s College (i.e. Columbia). Thus, we can be sure that a majority of these political leaders were not only well acquainted with the contents of both the New and Old Testaments, but also had some working knowledge of Hebrew.

    https://kenspiro.com/article/history-crash-course-55-jews-and-the-founding-of-america/

    Revitalization of US’s Graeco-Roman heritage simultaneously restores that which was best in foundation of USA.

    I’m betting that the “universities” were institutions of propaganda and we can see today how our “civilization” has been corrupted by their influences.

  362. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete asked me: “BTW, If they’re so smart, why are they always victims? If they’re so bright, how could they be subject to “The” holocaust?”

    Hi Jacques,

    First a question related to the above.

    In our consumer American society, do you notice how essentially below average IQ (ambitious-religious) people manage to make lots of money, and suddenly they begin to talk and act with charisma as if their IQ mushroomed 100 points or so? Subsequently, neighbors become awed / respectful of their BANK ACCOUNT portfolios, and corresponding misperceived wisdom.

    One decent shyster example is the James & Tammy Fay Baker couple who snookered adoring believers & who helped them finance a self-profitable Christian theme park in Florida.

    Now I move on to Fuhrer Adolph Hitler’s need to employ Jews and others as labor in essential war related enterprises.

    According to Hannah Arendt’s great book “The Banality of Evil; Eichmann trial,” Hitler relied upon “bright” & influential Jewish-German elders to assist and facilitate the mass round up of average Jews and their assignment to work camps.

    It seems to me that out of the embryo of Jewish Elder cooperation with the Germans emerged the “victimhood” narrative that by the late-1960′s became transformed into the “Holocaust” by bright (?) elite Jews who subjected western nations to a CONTROL-oriented tale of inhuman Nazi mass murder of Jews.

    Also, Jacques, we must be ever mindful how the W. Bush administration’s “Best & Brightest” convinced America that 19 Arabs flew aluminum winged airplanes into the Twin Tower steel structures, flattened them like “pancakes,” killing apps. 3,000. *

    Thank you.

    * Linh Dinh created the pancake image.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  363. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam,

    Considering Syria and the ME policy in general, what influence do corporations wield? Do Lukoil, Gazprom or Rosneft stand to profit from Assad/Russian victory? Are oil/gas exploration and drilling rights (especially coastal) at stake?

    Reading Steve Coll’s ‘Private Empire: ExxonMobil and American Power’. CEO Lee Raymond, climate change skeptic and Cheney friend, openly remarked “I’m not a US company and I don’t make decisions based on what’s good for the US.” Stepped down in 2005 with $321 million.

    Are we are returning to (corporate) feudalism? Walmart, depending on global trade and energy, pulled in $486 billion in 2016. Largest company in the world. Waltons own 50.8% and a collective $170 billion net worth. Wealth on a rare scale. Is it healthy?

    Annual oil company revenues surpass many national GDPs ($billion):

    Saudi Aramco (KSA): 455.5
    Sinopec (China): 448.0
    China National Petroleum: 428.6
    Petro China: 367.9
    ExxonMobil (USA): 268.9
    Royal Dutch Shell (Ntld/UK): 265.0
    Kuwait Petroleum: 251.9
    BP (UK): 222.8
    Total (France): 212.0
    Lukoil (Russia): 144.2

    Top Ten Total: $3,064,902,000,000. Second only to the 2016 nominal GDPs of USA, China, Japan and Germany.

    Is Saudi Aramco (and others) playing Iran sanctions to maximize profits? How? National Iranian Oil Company revenues were $110 billion in 2012. Syria’s GDP? $50.2 billion (ppp, 2015, CIA World Factbook). Doubtless you have more accurate figures.

    The cliché Iraq ’03 was all about oil doesn’t seem totally crazy.

    Best

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Sam Shama
  364. Incitatus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “This is getting boring.”

    Agree.

    “…pre-Socratics, influenced by the Persians, were developing the foundational theories of western civilization’s philosophy…”

    Try W. K. C. Guthrie’s multi-volume ‘History of Greek Philosophy’ if you tire of Shutt.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  365. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    The cliché Iraq ’03 was all about oil doesn’t seem totally crazy.

    Hi, Incy. Apologies for being so tardy in providing a response to your previous post in another thread. I’ll get to that one as well, but I just couldn’t let the above comment go unchallenged. As you well know, the truth-telling Profs. Mearsheimer and Walt provided copious references in their magnum opus The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy that completed refuted what you coyly refer to as a cliché. Let me know if you would like for me to produce these references here at UR for everyone’s perusal?

    Having read this book, I wonder why you would bother making such a statement? Could it be an attempt at sowing seeds of doubt in The Dumb Goyim’s minds as to what was the primary driving force behind the desire to remake the MENA? As I noted previously, your motives may not be as benign as they may first appear… and the reference to a cliché doesn’t help dispelling those suspicions.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Incitatus
  366. @Incitatus

    S2C: “This is getting boring.”
    InZit: “Agree.”

    Hi InZit,

    Above in response, I will paraphrase the departed-Catholic/Zio windbag, W.F. Buckley:

    The first 5 people who enter Scranton Dunkin’ Donuts each morning are way more interesting, less “boring” than you.

  367. @geokat62

    Geokat to InZit: “As I noted previously, your motives may not be as benign as they may first appear…”and the reference to a cliché doesn’t help dispelling those suspicions.

    Hi geokat,

    Bingo, above!

    InZit is a cunning Chameleon that lay in (dense) clear water & hides beneath purposely spilled fuel oil.

    Also, swell to see how you offered documentable M&W exposure of his deceptive comment.

    Selah, wink-nod, wink-nod; a dumb goyim Advisory to look elsewhere for the root source of the April 2003, Shock & Awe attack.

  368. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    Hi Geo,

    The cliché Iraq ’03 was all about oil doesn’t seem totally crazy.
    “…I just couldn’t let the above comment go unchallenged. As you well know, the truth-telling Profs. Mearsheimer and Walt provided copious references in their magnum opus The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy…Having read this book, I wonder why you would bother making such a statement?”

    Simple. I read quite a few books. M&W published in 2007. Eleven years ago. Memory is far from perfect. Did they write about Syria 2018?

    Caught in a time warp with your “truth-telling magnum opus”? Same tired phrases. Same demands for your favorite (only) scapegoat. Questions about multi-national corporate influence not permitted. Close your eyes to other culprits. Today ‘the Lobby’, tomorrow the Euro-Ethno-World?

    Glad I didn’t add CIA Syria questions ala Sy Hersh. Sure, their budget is $14,700,000,000 (2013) and nobody really knows what they’re up to. Never mind. They’re not in M&W.

    Inspiration for you:

    Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively…it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side…The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble…they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward… in the end one must always return to the assertion of the same formula.”

    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ Chapter VI 1925

    Wash, rinse, repeat.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @RobinG
  369. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Did they write about Syria 2018?

    Your cliche was in relation Iraq 2003, why shift the focus to Syria 2018?

    Same demands for your favorite (only) scapegoat. Questions about multi-national corporate influence not permitted. Close your eyes to other culprits. Today ‘the Lobby’, tomorrow the Euro-Ethno-World?

    Oh, I see. I’m the one whose priorities are skewed. Forget about how the phony GWOT has wrought the death of over a million innocents and the destruction of several Muslim countries in MENA, we should focus instead on more mundane matters like GDP, the cost of pharmaceuticals, infrastructure projects? While these latter issues are undoubtedly important, they pale in comparison with the taking of innocent lives on such a vast scale. But, hey, perhaps you’re right, the quality of life for Americans is more important than the right to life for innocent foreigners?

    Glad I didn’t add CIA Syria questions ala Sy Hersh.

    Syria again? See first note above.

    Inspiration for you:

    Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Rumor has it that Dolf may have gotten his inspiration from Edward Bernays, widely considered to be The Father of propaganda:

    Of his many books, Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923) and Propaganda (1928) gained special attention as early efforts to define and theorize the field of public relations. Citing works of writers such as Gustave Le Bon, Wilfred Trotter, Walter Lippmann, and his own double uncle Sigmund Freud, he described the masses as irrational and subject to herd instinct—and outlined how skilled practitioners could use crowd psychology and psychoanalysis to control them in desirable ways.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Incitatus
  370. RobinG says:
    @Incitatus

    “Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively…it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side… confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas.

    These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward… in the end one must always return to the assertion of the same formula.”

    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ Chapter VI 1925

    Perfectly describes RUSSIAGATE.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Incitatus
  371. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    Perfectly describes RUSSIAGATE.

    And geo’s comments.

  372. Incitatus says:
    @RobinG

    “Perfectly describes RUSSIAGATE.”

    Agree. Seems to describe quite a few things these days. Not that I think Russia totally innocent. It’s natural for any country to promote its own interest.

    Hitler was brilliant, Göbbels no slouch either. More seductive (and dangerous) than current media. Suppose we should be grateful newscasters don’t wear uniforms (yet).

  373. @ChuckOrloski

    In our consumer American society, do you notice how essentially below average IQ (ambitious-religious) people manage to make lots of money, and suddenly they begin to talk and act with charisma as if their IQ mushroomed 100 points or so?

    Yes, I have noticed that phenomenon quite a bit. Even within relatively high income groups, the one with just a few more shekels, oops, dollars thinks (s)he’s King or Queen Doo-Doo, and it’s a positively fascinating thing to behold. I’ve always found it quite amusing as well. Another funny thing is that the others actually believe in it for some reason(s) that I’ll never understand.

    Lucian of Samosata is a fun read, especially when he has Menippus laughing at the moneyed fools who’re in Hades howling about the good old days.

    DIOGENES
    Pollux, I have a commission for you; next time you go up—and I think it is your turn for earth to-morrow—if you come across Menippus the Cynic—you will find him about the Craneum at Corinth, or in the Lyceum, laughing at the philosophers’ disputes—well, give him this message:—Menippus, Diogenes advises you, if mortal subjects for laughter begin to pall, to come down below, and find much richer material; where you are now, there is always a dash of uncertainty in it; the question will always intrude—who can be quite sure about the hereafter? Here, you can have your laugh out in security, like me; it is the best of sport to see millionaires, governors, despots, now mean and insignificant; you can only tell them by their lamentations, and the spiritless despondency which is the legacy of better days. Tell him this, and mention that he had better stuff his wallet with plenty of lupines, and any un-considered trifles he can snap up in the way of pauper doles1 or lustral eggs.2

    -Lucian of Samosata, DIALOGUES OF THE DEAD 1 – 20, TRANSLATED BY H. W. & F. G. FOWLER, 1 (1). DIOGENES AND POLLUX

    http://www.theoi.com/Text/LucianDialoguesDead1.html

  374. @geokat62

    Hi geokat,

    Airhead iffen mentioned RUSSIAGATE in comment # 381, and as if he had any clue to as to what the hell even happens on Hogan’s Heroes reruns, he said something extraordinarily stupid about your very clear comments.

    Below, FYI, I linked an outstanding article on Russia, written by Israel Shamir. I almost posted it to iffen which would have been an extreme waste of time because of his terminal learning deficiency.

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-rich-also-cry/

    (Zigh) Note that Israel Shamir mentioned the holy word “Epiphany” and iffen’s reading such could have induced paranoia, and he’d figure Real Jew News operatives have I.D.’d him (in code) as E-P_iffenEE.

    I believe you will appreciate Shamir’s article, geo!

  375. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “Your cliche was in relation Iraq 2003, why shift the focus to Syria 2018?”

    My post (#372) concerned oil companies and Syria 2018.

    “Oh, I see. I’m the one whose priorities are skewed. Forget about how the phony GWOT has wrought the death of over a million innocents and the destruction of several Muslim countries in MENA, we should focus instead on more mundane matters like GDP, the cost of pharmaceuticals, infrastructure projects?”

    You’re not concerned with the GWOT except as a prop for flogging ‘the Lobby’. Otherwise you’d be receptive to the possibility that many special interests support it. You might even admit other issues also vitally concern Americans.

    You need ‘the Lobby’ as exclusive scapegoat. Next stop? Euro-Ethno-Statehood. Your words:

    “My goal is to help the people from European and European-derived countries shake off the cultural Marxist spell that claims that Diversity Is Our Strength, before it is too late.”

    “I’d like to see all these countries renounce their embrace of diversity before it is too late.”

    Don’t see much concern about the GWOT.

    “Rumor has it that Dolf may have gotten his inspiration from Edward Bernays, widely considered to be The Father of propaganda…”

    Wouldn’t be surprised. Dolf was a brilliant autodidact, read many authors. Pragmatic about what was useful, but ruthlessly original in his own right. Mention Bernays because he was Jewish? How many wars did he launch?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @iffen
  376. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Don’t see much concern about the GWOT.

    Not to belabour the point, I stand by my comments regarding the Two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby:

    1. “Diversity Is Our Strength” for European and European-derived peoples
    2. The GWOT is being waged to enhance the security of European and European-derived peoples

    My primary source for refuting the first big lie is the work of Prof. Kevin MacDonald (see CofC) and that of Lawrence Auster (see Path To National Suicide). My source for debunking the second lie is The Israel Lobby, by Mearsheimer and Walt.

    These two prongs of activity have been the primary focus of The Lobby and so I’ve made it my primary focus to bring this to light for all other Dumb Goyim.

    Mention Bernays because he was Jewish? How many wars did he launch?

    While he may not have launched it, he is credited with selling the Second World War to the American people with this phrase:

    “Making the World Safe for Democracy”

    … much catchier than fighting the Global War On Terrorism, no?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  377. Art says:

    Play it Sam — Sing – “I love Trump I do – I love tax breaks I do – I love Jerusalem I do – I love cutting off Palestinians I do – I love dividing Syria I do!

    Whippy do, I love Trumpy-do - I do I do I do!”

    Must admit, that you got that one right – he has a full head of steam – what next is he going to do for you Jews? Divorce his Christian wife and install Ivanka as queen?

    Think Peace — Art

  378. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    Thank you. Much appreciation to yourself and others here to. Most everything they say is some sort of lie or twist on the truth. A lot of what they do is very similar to cheap magicians pointing in one direction while stuffing a rabbit in a hat to pull out later.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  379. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=it%27s+a+bird+trashmen&view=detail&mid=5E2A8FA1B13A70309FEE5E2A8FA1B13A70309FEE&FORM=VIRE

    A-well-a, everybody’s heard about the Jew
    Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, J-Jew’s the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, the Jew is the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, the Jew is the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, the Jew is the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, J-Jew’s the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, well, the Jew is the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, J-Jew’s the word
    A-well-a, don’t you know about the Jew
    Well, everybody knows that the Jew is the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, J-Jew’s the word
    A-well-a

  380. @Sam J.

    Most everything they say is some sort of lie or twist on the truth.

    And it’s so elementary. Take the idea that Hitler and Goebbels were the initiators of the “Big Lie.”

    As most of us know, we’re supposed to believe that those two invented the concept, when, in fact they mentioned it only to point out that “Jews” have used it for centuries. They were making the point that Martin Luther did in his “Lies of the Jews.”

    We can all judge for ourselves whether any of the following describes reality.

    Therefore be on your guard against the Jews and know that where they have their schools there is nothing but the Devil ‘s nest in which self-praise, vanity, lies, blasphemy, disgracing God and man, are practiced in the bitterest and most poisonous way as
    the Devils do themselves… Through God’s wrath they have been delivered to believe that all of their boasting, vanity, lying to God, cursing all men, are right and a great service to God, something well becoming to such noble blood of the fathers and circumcised saints (no matter how mean they otherwisemight know themselves to be in gross vices) which service they think they have rendered hereby.

    Look out for them !

    They brag and boast that they have had the land of Canaan, the city of Jerusalem and the temple from God. Although God has overthrown such boasting and vanity many times… yet their iron neck (as Isaiah calls it) is not bowed, nor has their iron forehead become red with shame. They constantly remain stiff-necked, blinded, hardened, and immovable. Still hope that God will bring them home again and give everything back to them.

    -Martin Luther, The Jews and Their Lies, p22-3, (1543) English translation

    https://archive.org/stream/TheJewsAndTheirLies1543En1948/LUTHERDr._Martin-The_Jews_and_their_Lies_1948-EN_djvu.txt

    No doubt the usual suspects will claim it’s a forgery (one of their specialties) and that Luther repudiated it (flip-flopping is another of their manuevers).

  381. geokat62 says:

    The latest by Phil Weiss… an excerpt from Struggle for equal rights for Palestinians is ‘right choice,’ and will lead to ‘significant exodus of Jews’ — Henry Siegman:

    I don’t understand why Siegman is not in all our leading papers and on the cable shows. The New York Times should be interviewing him; Chris Hayes should be hosting him. Because this is news. For the U.S. establishment it’s huge news. The two state solution is an illusion, the peace process is dead and buried, maintaining otherwise is a scam that serves Netanyahu, and Jews should prepare themselves for a “significant exodus of Jews” from Israel as it faces a future of acknowledged apartheid or– democracy.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/01/struggle-palestinians-significant/

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Sam J.
  382. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “While he [Bernays] may not have launched it, he is credited with selling the Second World War to the American people with this phrase: “Making the World Safe for Democracy”

    WW2? The phrase dates from WW1. Bernays (25, medical editor and theatrical press agent) wrote Woodie’s 2 Apr 1917 speech? Are you sure? Sources please.

    Did you mean FDR’s “Arsenal of Democracy” broadcast 29 Dec 1940? That phrase first appeared in an article by American businessman Herbert Houston in 1918. American playwright Robert Sherwood and French economist Jean Monnet repeated it in 1940, prior to FDR’s speech. Can’t find any record of Bernays involvement. Can you?

    Geo, think American entry into WW1 and WW2 were necessary? Believe both were needlessly provoked by Jews, devout Planet Germania dogma? WW2′s tough, given Pearl Harbor and Dolf’s 11 Dec 1941 declaration of War. How’d FDR manage that?

    WW1′s more complex. Read German Foreign Secretary Arthur Zimmermann’s 19 Jan 1917 telegram:

    “We [Germany] intend to begin on the first of February unrestricted submarine warfare. We shall endeavor in spite of this to keep the United States of America neutral. In the event of this not succeeding, we make Mexico a proposal or alliance on the following basis: make war together, make peace together, generous financial support and an understanding on our part that Mexico is to reconquer the lost territory in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona…the ruthless employment of our submarines now offers the prospect of compelling England in a few months to make peace.”

    Not necessarily a fan of Woodie, but I’d be upset if neighbors conspired to assault and rob me. Make a safe neighborhood? Sign me up!

    The mastermind behind Germany’s unrestricted submarine war and Mexican alliance? Wasn’t ‘the Lobby’ or Bernays. It was good old Generalquartiermeister Eric Ludendorff! Don’t worry, Eric found a way to blame failure on everybody else. Especially Jews. Hell of a guy. Here’s one of his gems:

    “I decline Christianity because it is Jewish, because it is international, and because, in cowardly fashion, it preaches Peace on Earth.”

    No wonder he was a big pal of Dolf!

    Bernays is interesting. His “Torches of Freedom” promotion of female cigarette smoking is my favorite. God bless American Tobacco! Wasn’t long before nascent airlines gave passengers free smokes and encouraged them to light up inflight. Native Americans’ couldn’t dream up better revenge!

    If you want something truly sinister, try his work with for United Fruit Company in 1954. Jacobo Árbenz must go to keep Chiquita Banana free? Ike’s second big mistake. Should never have trusted the Dulles Brothers.

    “Not to belabour the point, I stand by my comments regarding the Two Big Lies propagated by The Lobby…”

    Not surprised, Geo. Believe what you like. It’s a free country (still).

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Art
  383. iffen says:

    Not necessarily a fan of Woodie …

    Ike’s second big mistake. Should never have trusted the Dulles Brothers.

    Wot?

    WW2? The phrase dates from WW1.

    The fog! The fog of war! The fog of Jew inspired war!

    BTW, what was the 1st one?

    Let me guess: the interstate highway system.

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    “I decline Christianity because it is Jewish, because it is international, and because, in cowardly fashion, it preaches Peace on Earth.”

    Not exactly your average philosophical Christian, huh, Arts?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  384. @geokat62

    …and Jews should prepare themselves for a “significant exodus of Jews” from Israel as it faces a future of acknowledged apartheid or– democracy.

    Here’a a quote from another, related article. Israel is a pit and only suckers support the vicious,racist pig sty, but in the end, they stand a great chance of being thrown under the bus as well, and good riddance.

    BUT ARABS are not the most unfortunate victims of this [Zionist]government. This role is reserved for the Africans.

    Black people fleeing from Sudan and Eritrea have reached us for years after a long and painful trek, crossing the border between Sinai and Israel. In the end Israel built a wall and stopped the flow. But before that happened, about 35 thousand black Africans had reached Tel Aviv, where they settled in the poorest sections and soon quarreled with the locals.

    The government built a special prison for them, but many had to be released. They were illegally employed washing dishes and such.

    Now the Israeli government has made a secret agreement with the governments of Ruanda and Uganda: for a payment per head, these countries will receive the immigrants. The victims themselves will receive a few dollars if they leave voluntarily. Otherwise they will be incarcerated indefinitely.

    The decision raised a storm. It was generally assumed that in these African countries the lives of the refugees would be in danger, that they would be robbed, raped and killed, that others would try to reach European shores and be killed on the way.

    The racist aspect was painfully obvious. Israel is full of foreign workers, from Ukrainians to Chinese. The Africans could easily displace them and do their jobs. But they are black. And they might – God forbid! – marry kosher Jewish girls.

    -Uri Avnery, The Jumping Parliament, 2018

    http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1517052482/

  385. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    WW2? The phrase dates from WW1. Bernays (25, medical editor and theatrical press agent) wrote Woodie’s 2 Apr 1917 speech? Are you sure? Sources please.

    You’re right. It was used to sell American participation in the First World War.

    That said, Bernays was also involved in the second:

    During World War II, Bernays advised the United States Information Agency as well as the Army and Navy. He was chairman of the National Advisory Committee of the Third U.S. War Loan, co-chairman of the Victory Book campaign, and part of the New York State Defense Council.

    Geo, think American entry into WW1 and WW2 were necessary? Believe both were needlessly provoked by Jews, devout Planet Germania dogma? WW2′s tough, given Pearl Harbor and Dolf’s 11 Dec 1941 declaration of War. How’d FDR manage that?

    Again, Incy, it’s all or nothing with you. While there are undoubtedly many factors at play, do you discount the role played by American Jewry in both wars? What about their behind the scenes efforts to get the US into WWI in exchange for securing a declaration from the Brits regarding their support for a Jewish homeland? Any truth to that? Or is it all lies? Regarding WWII, have you read Benjamin Ginsberg’s How The Jews Defeated Hitler: Exploding the Myth of Jewish Passivity in the Face of Nazism? Or Edwin Black’s Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine. Plenty of blame to go around, isn’t there?

    If you want something truly sinister, try his work with for United Fruit Company in 1954. Jacobo Árbenz must go to keep Chiquita Banana free? Ike’s second big mistake. Should never have trusted the Dulles Brothers.

    What I find most sinister about Bernays is this little tidbit about his campaign to promote smoking among women:

    Throughout the job, Bernays concealed the fact that he was working for the American Tobacco Company, and in fact succeeded in keeping his own name out of the affair as well. Staff were instructed never to mention his name. Third parties were used, and various notable people received payments to promote smoking publicly as if on their own initiative. (Decades later, however, Bernays boasted about his role.)

    Bernays didn’t smoke cigarettes and persistently but unsuccessfully tried to induce his wife Doris to quit. After his semi-retirement in the 1960s he worked with the pro-health anti-smoking lawyer John Banzhaf’s group, ASH, and supported other anti-smoking campaigns.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

    Kind of reminds one of Herbert Marcuse, a leading member of the Frankfurt School, who promoted the radical assault on the institution of marriage, while being married to his wife for several decades.

    • Replies: @iffen
  386. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    While you not-Jew boys are busy putting guilt on white folks for Hitler – there are troubles brewing with “the six million lie.”

    Netanyahu has his panty’s in a bunch and is going apoplectic because Poland has the gonads to object to the term “Polish death camps.” They have made a law against using those words.

    Things are falling apart before your eyes. Slowly and surly the lie is becoming exposed.

    But that will mean nothing to you one trick pony not-Jew boys. You’ll will continue with your Hasbara Central work. The Big Jews will wind you up, and you will put your little hearts into performing a new lie. Sad!

    Think Peace — Art

    https://www.afp.com/en/news/826/israel-poland-row-over-holocaust-bill-doc-y23ua1

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  387. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    A-well-a, everybody’s heard about the Jew
    Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, J-Jew’s the word

  388. Sam J. says:
    @geokat62

    “…The two state solution is an illusion, the peace process is dead and buried, maintaining otherwise is a scam that serves Netanyahu, and Jews should prepare themselves for a “significant exodus of Jews” from Israel as it faces a future of acknowledged apartheid or– democracy…”

    I hope not. I’m a Zionist. I want all of them,. every last one, to go to Israel. My apologies to the Palestinians but they will surely understand why I want to get rid of them at any cost. We don;t want them to go to Europe or God forbid come here. We have enough fleas already.

  389. @Art

    Things are falling apart before your eyes. Slowly and surly the lie is becoming exposed.

    Yup. It’s becoming obvious how the b*$tards operate and people are finally having to face reality.

    I hope they enjoyed their sick behavior while it lasted.

    The sick little shithole country couldn’t exist without a steady drain of cash from us dumb goyim and even with it, the place stinks to high heaven.

    This is a fun read.:

    -Uri Avnery, The Jumping Parliament, 2018

    http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1517052482/

  390. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hello Incitatus,
    I do so admire your patient industry to orient Geo on this critical matter; of a modus vivendi which ought to be crystal clear – even to a doctrinaire – that corporate interests tend to claim primacy of place today. To deny it is to be willfully blind: insisting on a proposal which borders on tautology; it tries to explain everything and explains nothing. One supposes it is a particular case of what Iffen terms, “It’s gotta be dem Joos!” :-) We can all think of countries [including our own] which had waged war for resources, commercial interests, territorial positioning, etc. when AIPAC did not exist.

    It’s not that I believe AIPAC to be uninfluential – indeed I consider them wholly instrumental in fashioning a subset of American attitudes toward Israel – but they are positively exiguous to the full the reach of American foreign policy. In Asia, only mildly. In Europe, not at all. In the Middle East and Africa, AIPAC/Israel exerts influence only on a small handful: The Emirates, Jordan, and to some extent, KSA. With KSA it has always been a relationship of convenience: each domestic lobby pitching for the other in Washington when interests align.

    Of course, O & G and trade routes are the central reasons behind American involvement in Iraq and Syria! GWB may have had his little personal vendettas in mind, but for Exxon Mobil [derived from Rockefeller's Standard Oil, Lee Raymond's ties to the Bush family, Tillerson assuming the same relationship subsequently] Chevron [Condi Rice the champion], Texaco, Halliburton [Cheney] et al. the calculus had nothing to do with filial revenge. British Petroleum, Royal Dutch, Saudi Aramco completed the inner circle. These were the signatories to what was to become decadal involvements for the U.S. and Britain. Iran was a critical player in this theatre, but her ambitions have always been a notch or two higher than those of Arab-Oil. For Iran, it has long been Islamic unity and its expression and execution that needed financing from Oil revenues.

    Ayatollah Khamenei in his The Future of Religion writes of Qutb:

    This lofty and great author has tried in the course of the chapters of this book…to first introduce the essence of the faith as it is and then, after showing that it is a program of living….[to confirm] with his eloquent words and his particular world outlook that ultimately world government shall be in the hands of our school and “the future belongs to Islam”

    That is not an isolated opinion Khamenei was expressing [as did Ahmedinejad before the U.N. in 2007], but very much a synopsis of the Iranian Constitution:

    In accordance the sacred verse of the Qur’an (“This your community is a single community, and I am your Lord, so worship Me” [21:92], all Muslims form a single nation, and the government of the Islamic Nation of Iran has the duty of formulating its general policies with a view to cultivating the friendship and unity of all Muslim peoples, and it must constantly strive to bring about the political, economic, and cultural unity of the Islamic world

    So the sublimation of doctrinal differences gives way to shared pan-Islamic ambition. That is at the heart of Iranian policy, and, naturally, therefore, given her geographic situation, Oil endowments, and historic place, bring her into direct conflict with today’s pre-eminent powers.

    The Sunni Arab nations are utterly different today. The KSA and the Gulf Arabs are the beneficiaries of vast accidental wealth which brings with it cunning ambition and hubris aplenty. KSA is quite content to export Wahhabism and keep the ME and SE Asia in choppy waters. Today, however, they see the future with more clarity.

    Which brings us to the question of Oil and its price. Alliances consummated are on plain display. The U.S. and KSA together with a club of Emiratis against the ambitions of Iran and her limited allies, Russia and China. The national character of China is transactional, their grievances mainly commercial. That is not to say they do not have the long view, they most manifestly do, yet as long as Oil needs are satisfied and at the lowest price possible, their support of Iran is limited. Russia’s involvement is graver, being a far more substantial commodity-dependent economy than China, although they are trying to diversify as best as they can.

    The notion of Peak-Oil is dead. It is more a question of Peak-demand. Given the worldwide, earnest trends toward alternate energy, self-driven electric cars Oil demand is reliably seen to peak in 2042 [BP Chairman Dudley]. These projections do not take into full account the official goals of many nations, including populous ones like India, to go fully electric by 2025. So peak demand might come sooner. Why is MBS is doing an IPO of Aramco? Why is he building the half-trillion dollar NEOM City? Aramco valued today with Oil at $65 is likely as high as they are going to get in the foreseeable future. Oil demand is still quite inelastic [decreases less than proportionally with price increases], so it is simply carpe diem . Carpe diem indeed, for the fiscal breakeven needs of the Kingdom. Iran’s BE is about $140/bbl and KSA’s $104. KSA’s production costs are low about $7/bbl out of the ground, while Iran’s about $13. The fiscal demand for Oil revenues is equally demanding: the key concern of both governments.

    Crude at $105 suits both, but opinions differ sharply between the two. Iran sees her population as far more capable of dealing with austerity whereas for the KSA this is a non-starter. Enter the Aramco IPO, i.e a 10% sale of oil assets, not to forget the shakedown of his fellow princes by MBS. Most importantly he wants Iran under attack. He wants Oil above $100; what a relief that will bring! NEOM has been called the investment on a mountain of hubris by many, but it is merely another scheme cooked up by MBS to part a decent portion of the Davos crowd from their capital. That is my view. A combination of Oil rising above $80, a successful Aramco IPO [or sale of stakes to Sovereign wealth funds], a sufficient capitalisation of NEOM will render a war on Iran far less likely than otherwise. I don’t see the $80 price even if reached, to remain there or go higher.

    That is a brief discussion of global Oil and its interests. Nothing is quite cut and dried, but any synopsis needs to focus on essentials. More generally, corporate interests which might be appropriately called corporate feudalism is firmly in place. American corporations are no more American than Japanese corporations are Japanese, or German ones German. In the S&P 500, the top 10% of corporations derive more than 40% of their revenues outside America. These corporations are owned by the shareholders, chief amongst whom are the retirement savers. So, what are we to conclude? Of one thing I am confident: if any American policy led to say a 30% drop in the S&P 500 …….:-)

    P.S. [if I may to RobinG]: This brings me to a question which RobinG had put to me. Who are the 150 most powerful individuals in the world? The allusion to this super-elite group was made by Pahlipatia of Facebook fame. I had heard of this man only peripherally, but listening to him gave me the distinct feeling of being in the company of a fraudster. He waxing peppered with a profusion of expletives left me thinking that this is what must happen to the accidental Billionaire! …more on this later if I may, since I’ve got to dash off.

    • Troll: L.K
  391. geokat62 says:

    Of course, O & G and trade routes are the central reasons behind American involvement in Iraq and Syria!

    “central reasons” LOL. And you expect me to refrain from using my favourite refrain? You just can’t help yourself, dissembling for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. All in an effort to dupe The Dumb Goyim.

    Listen, why don’t you try authoring a book that demonstrates this assertion and bolster it by citing references to credible sources? Kinda like what Mearsheimer and Walt have done in their magnum opus, The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy?

    A few excerpts from The Israel Lobby:

    [MORE]

    This chapter [Chapter 4 "What Is the 'Israel Lobby'?"] also considers whether Arab-American groups, the so-called oil lobby, or wealthy Arab oil producers are either a significant counterweight to the Israel lobby or even the real driving forces behind U.S. Middle East policy. Many people seem to believe, for example, that the invasion of Iraq was mostly about oil and that corporate oil interests were the primary movers behind the U.S. decision to attack that country. This is not the case: although access to oil is obviously an important U.S. interest, there are good reasons why Arab Americans, oil companies, and the Saudi royal family wield far less influence on U.S. foreign policy than the Israel lobby does. p.16

    Neither Arab governments nor the vaunted “oil lobby” pose a significant counterweight to the Israel lobby. The belief that oil companies and/or wealthy oil sheikhdoms exert a powerful influence on U.S. Middle East pol­icy is widespread and is reflected in the frequent claim that the war in Iraq in 2003 was a “war for oil” and for related corporate interests such as Hallibur­ton. Interestingly, this view is advanced by some of Israel’s most persistent critics—such as Noam Chomsky and Stephen Zunes—as well as by fervent defenders like Martin Peretz. More conspiratorial versions of this perspec­tive suggest that personal and financial connections between the Bush fam­ily and the House of Saud have shaped U.S. Middle East policy to America’s detriment. These various interpretations portray the Israel lobby as just one player among many, and probably not the most important one. p.142

    Beyond this obvious interest in preserving access to Middle East oil, however, there is little evidence that either wealthy Arab states or a power­ful “oil lobby” has had much impact on the broad thrust of U.S. Middle East policy. p.143

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  392. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…Hello Incitatus,
    I do so admire your patient industry to orient Geo on this critical matter…”

    He gives away the whole game right here at the beginning. Let’s “orient” people. Their whole purpose is to derail any thought about the real problem, the base, the essence, the root of the problem which is the Jews run our country.

    He then of course goes on and on with a heap of verbiage yet “conveniently” omits that it’s the Jews that own most of the major corporations. Remember the bank bail out? If the Jews don’t own everything then they are the most incompetent fools in history with all the cash we shoved their way. They got, we know from Rep. Ron Paul’s forced audit of the FED $16 trillion. (This is the reason the stock market is roaring. They’re buying up the economy with our money). Estimates of the total amounts a few years ago from looking at financial data is $29 trillion. I bet it’s more, way more. At $29 Trillion and 300 million Americans we could have given a zero interest loan for every family of four of $386,666. Housing crisis solved and the economy would have roared with all that cash going into people’s pockets. Instead the Jew banks got all the money to buy hard assets and we got the bill. We would be much better off printing money straight up and just giving it to people. There will be a gasp at this idea but if printing 29 Trillion and giving it to the banks is not bad then why would bankrupting the banks and giving 29 trillion to the public be worse?

    The only reasonable solution is to get rid of the Jews. It would cause financial problems for short while but since we’re the ones actually making stuff in the first place we could always make more money. After taking out the Jews cut, and it’s big, we’d all be rich. Every society that has gotten rid of the Jews has prospered.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @jacques sheete
  393. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    It’s not that I believe AIPAC to be uninfluential – indeed I consider them wholly instrumental in fashioning a subset of American attitudes toward Israel – but they are positively exiguous to the full the reach of American foreign policy

    Really – exiguous.

    Exiguous: meagre, inadequate, insufficient, small, scant, scanty, paltry, negligible, limited, restricted, modest, sparse, spare, deficient, skimpy, short, little, miserable, pitiful, puny, miserly, niggardly, beggarly.

    You Jews are such liars – how could anyone use that word to describe AIPAC’s influence on America’s foreign policy. You disgust people.

    That is why you Jews are ostracized – you never play the game fairly – you always cheat. You are always in people’s face with a lie.

    Your Trump/Javanka has pitted America against the world of decency. We are being separated from the Western nations by you Jews.

    Your AIPAC and the like have destroyed representative democracy as a workable system of human organization. We will come up with something that supplants “national power” and that will bring peace.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  394. @Sam J.

    He was addressing Jews. But i think the context is that he was referring to a certain type of Jew – not Jews in general.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  395. Sam J. says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “…But i think the context is that he was referring to a certain type of Jew – not Jews in general…”

    I think different. Due to the longstanding behavior of the Jews to act like they worship the Devil. If you take this longstanding behavior and the longstanding behavior of most Jews to cover for the Jews acting like they worship the Devil then they whole phase seems to cover the lot of them. That ten or twenty, hell maybe even thirty are different doesn’t change a thing. It’s hard to think of any group on the face of planet earth that acts more like they worship Satan than the Jews. They are some seriously fucked up people, (if you consider Satan worship fucked up).

    This is just another detour, by saying “they’re not all like that”, to play towards Western sensibilities towards fair play but…they don’t give a shit about fair play or individual rights. Why should I? I don’t for people who don’t play by the same rules I do. This is just another reason, making up extra rights for Jews that they have no intention of giving others themselves, that we need to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but by any means possible.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  396. @Sam J.

    This is just another detour, by saying “they’re not all like that”, to play towards Western sensibilities towards fair play but…they don’t give a shit about fair play or individual rights. Why should I? I don’t for people who don’t play by the same rules I do. This is just another reason, making up extra rights for Jews that they have no intention of giving others themselves, that we need to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but by any means possible.

    I used to be one of those who claimed that they’re all not like that, but thanks to the boilerplate hasbara trolling, their utter disrespect for the truth, endless mockery and constant attention seeking behavior, I now feel the same as you do. It is apparent that they don’t give a shit and will stoop to anything to make a mess of things even where there’s no personal or group gain. They act like a hideous and destructive bunch of sadists and I’ve developed zero tolerance.

    These squats never relent in their endless grubbing for special treatment and taking advantage of decency to try and get the upper hand. Consequently, I now have troll fatigue and loathe anyone that makes any excuses for them or associates with them in any way.

  397. @Sam Shama

    Hi Maven,

    Credit for your articulate deception technique!

    A question related to the presstv article, below.

    Putin’s Russia is consistently portrayed as U.S. # 1 enemy. Why is it the case that the Jewish Corporate Media never cover President Putin & P.M. Netanyahu’s cordial relationship?

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/01/29/550567/Israel-Netanyahu-Moscow-Putin

  398. From your article, an example of how these fools think they’re kidding all the dumb goyim.

    Netanyahu’s last such effort, however, fell flat after he traveled to Sochi to seek Putin’s help to rein in what the Israeli leader characterized as “Iran’s push for hegemony in the region.”

    That mendacious, sneering, dumbass will never get the punishment it deserves.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  399. Incitatus says:
    @iffen

    Not necessarily a fan of Woodie …
    “Wot?”

    Tend to agree with Clemenceau (20 May 1919):

    “…I’m between two men – one of whom (Lloyd George) thinks he’s Napoleon and the other (Wilson) thinks he’s Jesus Christ…”

    Aside from messianism, don’t fancy Woodie’s ‘Birth of a Nation’ attitude (though probably commonplace in his time). That said, not the worst POTUS. Made the right call on WW1.

    “BTW, what was the 1st one?”

    Operation Ajax. Kermit Roosevelt’s 19 Aug 1953 coup. Alan Dulles at his best. Mosaddegh must go, AAOC/BP/Pahlavi/Savak must rule! Little wonder Iranians resent ‘Great Satan’. Are we better today? Sanctions? Saudi Aramco $456 billion. National Iranian Oil $110 billion. Suppose it makes sense. The Saud family has expensive taste. Shared by our oil/finance/defense industries.

    Ike reclaimed some honor with Suez in ’56.

    “The fog! The fog of war! The fog of Jew inspired war!”

    Many here believe any and all war no less.

    “Watch yourself. Be on guard. This place is full of vultures. Vultures, vultures everywhere. Everywhere.”

    Beware integrity on Planet Germania.

    • Replies: @iffen
  400. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    Let’s “orient” people. Their whole purpose is to derail any thought about the real problem, the base, the essence, the root of the problem which is the Jews run our country.

    You are disoriented, therefore in dire need of re-orientation as manifest in the rants which followed.

    it’s the Jews that own most of the major corporations.

    Homework for you: list the S&P 500 companies, pick the top 251 by market capitalisation and find for us the structure of share ownership. Obviously, these are publicly traded corporations and data is freely available. Upon performing this exercise correctly, you will find that yours is merely a case of wind escaping the confines of poor knowledge. Let me provide the top 25 corporations: Apple Inc, Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Berkshire Hathaway, JP Morgan Chase, Johnson & Johnson, Exxon Mobil, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Walmart, Visa Inc, and Chevron. Upon examining the top share ownerships [I'll provide a couple], this is what obtains:

    1. AAPL : Vanguard Group = 6.77%, Blackrock = 6.18%, State Street = 4.06%, FMR LLC = 2.86%, Berkshire Hathaway = 2.72% ……….Tim Cook = 0,02% etc

    2. GOOG : Vanguard Group = 6.01%, Larry Page = 5,73%, Sergey Brin = 5.54%, Blackrock = 5.34%, FMR LLC = 3,83% ….etc

    If you fail to perform this exercise – it is incumbent on you since you made a very specific claim – we shall know that you are speaking nonsense.

    Remember the bank bail out?

    Yes, I do indeed and am confident I know more than you on this subject. Do the same exercise for bank ownership structures.

    with all the cash we shoved their way

    I am sure that ferment is active in your imagination, but Don Quixote also thought he was rushing a whole army up the hill.

    They got, we know from Rep. Ron Paul’s forced audit of the FED $16 trillion. (This is the reason the stock market is roaring. They’re buying up the economy with our money). Estimates of the total amounts a few years ago from looking at financial data is $29 trillion. I bet it’s more, way more.

    Ron Paul, Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders have called for the audit of the Fed’s Monetary Policy for many years. The various bills with amendments have always failed to pass Senate. If it ever passes Congress the President will veto it. Do you know why? Even Donald Trump, now the President and no longer the candidate or President-Elect, knows the critical role the Fed plays and the last thing you need is for the monetary authority to be politicised. Politicisation will have terrible consequences. It will subject the Fed to undertake expansionary policies at the behest of the ruling party, particularly before elections. This can never be allowed to happen.

    The Fed acted swiftly to provide the banking system with liquidity and capital to shore up public confidence. There were some 28 facilities, including swap lines afforded to the European banking system. The vast majority of bank recap [as opposed to say, the GM recap, which ended in a loss], the preference capital owned by the U.S Treasury/Taxpayer and financed by the Fed in many cases, returned a profit. So, you don’t know what you are talking about.

    https://money.usnews.com/investing/articles/2017-01-19/financial-crisis-bailouts-have-earned-taxpayers-billions

    Although I know you have no credible sources, as a matter of record I want you to provide references for your claim of disbursing “more than $29 tr given by us to Jews”. So, once again references please, for your piffle!

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @peterAUS
    , @Sam J.
  401. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam,

    Thanks for a very interesting response. Provocative subject! Rare on Planet G.

    Have several questions/comments. Will find time to coherently express them asap. Stay tuned.

    Best

  402. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    Operation Ajax. Kermit Roosevelt’s 19 Aug 1953 coup. Alan Dulles at his best.

    Isn’t this just one intervention that did not turn out well (in the long run)? What about the hundreds that have turned out somewhat okay?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  403. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    the last thing you need is for the monetary authority to be politicised.

    Talk about being tardy in closing the barn door.

  404. @jacques sheete

    Presumably, Jacques Sheete said to me (?): “From your article, an example of…”

    Hi Jacques,

    Above, can not confirm your words are addressed to my comment (# 407) including linked press article to the Maven.

    At any rate, I await what distortion Mave might offer on the Jewish Corporate Media’s relentless demonization of Putin’s Russia including a charge of influencing the rigged ZUS presidential election 2017…, and how the same shady Media takes a pass & merely whimpers about the Israeli-Russian honchos cordial military “coordination” and PRETENDS Jewish Lobby influence on ZUS congressional & presidential is a fool’s delusion.

    FYI, given you may have addressed me, please see the central (presstv) sentence copy/paste, below?

    “The Israeli premier said he and Putin “meet periodically in order to ensure the military coordination” between the Israeli and Russian forces.”

    Sincerely, I have deep respect for SolontoCroesus’s complaint about the Giraldi article / comment thread as becoming a “bore.”

    However, I suggest that a reason for an outbreak of “boredom” is not entirely due to a deficit in U.R. commenter’s application of classical logic.

    No doubt, each commenter here at the U.R., in my “exigious” judgement, does their best to either issue forth awareness, i.e.; geokat et al, or deception, i.e.; Sam Shama.

    Good and healthy thought needs logic and, in addition, a conscience respectful of a determination to seek truth and expose lies.

    Ever hear about the rather simple but logical words of philosopher St. Anselm, Jacques? Famously, Anselm advised thinkers, “if one part of the article is determined WRONG, you must reject the whole.”

    I for one suggest that public teaching & application of such saintly advice would shatter the Siamese Twin Tower U.S./Israeli “coordination” on the (official) 9/11 Commission Report.

    Logic (in written thought) minus a determined conscience & search for truth inevitably produces static “boredom.” Articulate deception-specialists like Maven Shama & InZitatus prey upon commenters who hesitate to dynamically “cut to heart” of matters.

    In addition, our Israeli Controllers are ENERGIZED when masses of restless American consumers are logically misinformed, & in the words of Roger Waters, are rendered “Comfortably numb.”

    As of this writing, the logical, conscientious, non-boring, and unafraid Brother Nathanael remains an occassional U.R. commenter, and is yet to get promoted.

    Thank you, Jacques.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @jacques sheete
  405. iffen says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    However, I suggest that a reason for an outbreak of “boredom” is not entirely due to a deficit in U.R. commenter’s application of classical logic.

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/destroying-syria/#comment-2179996

    A-well-a, everybody’s heard about the Jew
    Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, J-Jew’s the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, the Jew is the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, the Jew is the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, the Jew is the word
    A-well-a, Jew, Jew, Jew, J-Jew’s the word

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Art
  406. peterAUS says:
    @Sam Shama

    Coherent and informative posts.

    Keep them coming.

    And, just re-read and deleted a long follow up re Jews etc. No point.

    The point is, maybe, to find a way out of this current state.
    Assuming it is not good, that is.

    Hopefully without that simple solution “just get rid of Jews and all will be fine”.

    The real solution I mean.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Sam J.
  407. @iffen

    Hi Little Orphan iffen,

    Knowing about your incurable learning deficiency, & for the sake of others here, I link the Telegraph article (below) which objectively discussed “Nazi” offer to leave western front, and in return, obtain Allied permission to attack Stalin’s USSR and it’s Marxist-Leninist revolutionary plan for westward expansion.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10336126/Nazis-offered-to-leave-western-Europe-in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html

    Selah, The Choice at Hand: either Kiddie-Blues Clues or Real Jew News.

  408. Art says:
    @iffen

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/destroying-syria/#comment-2179996

    Does that mean that there have been over two million comments on UR – impressive!

    Art

  409. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Fraudster? Isn’t that relative? He’s not pushing WMD or GWOT or Russia! as far as I can tell, (not that he seems to indicate any interest). And he left FB in 2011, long before the current suppression of dissident opinion. Accidental billionaire? Read his bio, he worked for it. Or do you mean that he wasn’t born upper-caste?

    He’s actually somewhat contrite, as in the short clip – first linked by ‘wayfarer’ – h/t. Note the “dopamine driven….social validation feedback loop” and his warning about short term gratification. [And what is really going on in UR comments?] It’s the socio-psychological observations that caught my eye. As far being a potty-mouthed hipster, he’s very moderate in that regard.

    Sean Parker, Chamath Palihapitiya – Facebook is ‘Ripping Apart Society’

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Sam Shama
  410. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    M&W employed the tried and trusted tactic of pre-emptively naming, predicting in effect, the reaction of the Jerusalem Corner and in so doing scored a cheapish point. The Jerusalem Corner was immediately silenced by “Oh, the Profs told us you’d say this!”

    What never makes an appearance in the Lobby[at least not in the 2008 edition I carry] is any mention of O & E corporations – Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Halliburton etc. I won’t mention the lack of mention of the Amen Corner [led by Buchanan] which could barely contain its glee. M&W counted their support as a given; might that raise a few eyebrows?

    Therefore, this needs to be said: A pre-emptive declaration, “there is little evidence that either wealthy Arab states or a power­ful “oil lobby” has had much impact on the broad thrust of U.S. Middle East policy” does not weather scrutiny very well at all. They made no serious attempt, in fact, any attempt at all to scrutinise the windfalls made by the O&E corps.

    As with most things which impact geopolitics, the question of pure dollars and cents, and who made them in the ensuing circumstances, is vital; ignoring it poses other questions, ones that can prove fatal for their thesis. But I don’t mean to shine a spotlight on their ulterior motives. The Jerusalem Corner did not make any money out of it; even the claim of the costs of war, shakily laid at the doorsteps of the lobby, are merely costs. Who pocketed the profits, the simoleon, Geo? Any answer to this requires a serious look into the P&L of these corporations over and beyond what their normal trends would predict.

  411. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    Hi Robin,
    My apologies. I am always pretty circumspect of rich men sitting around a table offering advice and trying to good. I suppose I was put off by Palihapitiya’s expletives; I was suffused with the uncomfortable feeling of listening to a well-rehearsed act. Had I a billion dollars I’d tip the waiter a $1000 for a $500 restaurant bill and pat myself on the back too. But honestly, I understand his feelings. There is great joy in aiding a man in need when one can. But I wouldn’t let it become public knowledge.

    So, in the end, I must’ve come across as petty, even churlish. Truth is I haven’t followed his career very closely. But I can make the following two observations:

    1. His goals are indeed lofty. Taking on 50-year problems – the real LONG RUN. In so doing, he implicitly credits himself with knowing what our 50-year problems are going to be and that he knows the solution. Still, I must applaud this. He has put his money where his mouth is and has persuaded others to do so. I should take a closer look, and who knows I might find myself persuaded :-)

    2. His advocacy of Bitcoin and the Cryptocurrency complex is ill-advised, if not entirely self-serving. Have you looked at the initial coin offerings? these are the current day versions of the Tulip Bulb Mania of the 1630s! Many gullible souls are being parted from their savings.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  412. Sam Shama says:
    @peterAUS

    Thanks, Peter. I mean to try.

  413. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    I’m quite sure that O & G had/have an impact, but don’t believe it’s as direct as profit for O & E corporations. As William Engdahl postulates, denial of resources [to China] is desired by Deep State elements.

    My own postulation, the profit motive is bigger for “defense” industries. How else can you reconcile the costs of war on the balance sheet?

  414. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    I haven’t followed Palihapitiya at all. This was my first exposure. Agree with both your points. Also, have mixed feelings about the tipping. Seems that does more to stroke himself than have any lasting social benefit. But, hey, it’s his money.

    Do you think he went to Davos? (Is there a list of attendees?) It’s his post-FB, VC investments that make him rich, so maybe he does mingle with that elite. Who knows. Would like to know the 150 who rule us all.

    BTW, big loss this weekend – Robert Parry.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/29/robert-parrys-legacy-and-the-future-of-consortiumnews/

    Robert Parry’s Legacy and the Future of Consortiumnews

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @geokat62
  415. RobinG says:
    @RobinG

    He’s not on this list…. but neither is Donald Trump. Looks like chocolate king ◦Petro Poroshenko was there!

    https://www.verdict.co.uk/davos-attendees-2018/

  416. @Sam Shama

    The cunning Maven asked geokat62: “Who pocketed the profits, the simoleon, Geo? Any answer to this requires a serious look into the P&L of these corporations over and beyond what their normal trends would predict.”

    Hi Mave,

    I prefer to expand dialogue with you, for example, I would not give you “home field advantage” by limiting counter argument to the seminal work of M&W.

    So, I will probe into one particular comment made by Prime Minister that suggested to me that he is truly a STRONG global leader.

    Netanyahu proclaimed, “9/11 was good for Israel.”

    Anticipating you may retreat & claim that “Bibi” spoke extemperaneously, but I still have an important question to ask you, one which intersects with your U.R. comments deceptive routine

    Why did Netanyahu fail to mention the “rest of the story” and name some ancillary 9/11 attack-beneficiaries, for example, the M.I.C. and in your words, the “O & E companies, Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Halliburton” ?

    As you pontificated to geokat about your points requiring a “serious look into the P&L” ratio breakdown, mine does likewise.

    Nighty profit & loss night, Maven!

  417. [Multiple copies of almost exactly the same comment isn't good commenter behavior.]

    US hates Bashar Assad because Israel says so (IOW, Israel dictates US policy in the ME.) Then, why does Israel hate (would like to remove) B Assad? For two TOP reasons: 1) Assad sympathizes with the Palestinian (check out inauguration speech of Assad).; 2) Assad has explicitly indicated that Syria, for its territorial integrity, should take back the Golan Heights. Since then, Assad has been in the crosshair of Israel, as supported by their rabid supporters in Washington D.C.

    There are other reasons as to why US/Israel hate Assad — but secondary ones — to break the Shia Triad, blah, blah.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  418. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    BTW, big loss this weekend – Robert Parry.

    A tremendous loss, indeed, as RP was one of the few who were prepared to speak truth to power.

    Hopefully, the next generation will be able to supply, I can’t say replacements, but those who are cut from the same cloth.

  419. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…Homework for you: list the S&P 500 companies, pick the top 251 by market capitalisation …”

    Homework? Get a grip on your Judo-entitlement. We all know that a hand full of companies own everything. Most hide their ownership through Switzerland., YOU look that up, Easy to find.

    “…Politicisation will have terrible consequences. It will subject the Fed to undertake expansionary policies at the behest of the ruling party, particularly before elections…”

    And God forbid it will make it so the only reason they expand the money supply is to put money in the pocket of the Jews.

    This has happened before. The Jews owned the banks in Germany. They expanded the money supply for their own pockets and ruined the whole entire German middle class leading to the rise of Hitler. OOPPPS!!! You people keep making the same mistakes over and over.

    Notice when Hitler took over the banks it stabilized the currency and the economy. Hitler was a dumb ass for attacking Poland but he did a lot of stuff right like getting rid of the Jews influence on Germany. While Americans were hanging themselves in their barns during the depression Germans were going on vacations.

    “…audit of the Fed’s Monetary Policy for many years. The various bills with amendments have always failed to pass Senate. If it ever passes Congress the President will veto it. Do you know why?…”

    Duuuuhhh…Because the Jew won’t let them. They are blackmailing Congress and Trump is useless.

    “…The Fed acted swiftly to provide the banking system with liquidity and capital to shore up public confidence…”

    Notice MOST PROMINENTLY that you completely skip over the idea of making all the, essentially zero interest, loans to the banks and not to the people. If the problem was housing then why not directly attack the housing loan problem by bailing out the people? What’s wrong with that?

    Let’s get this straight. The Jew bankers can’t even make money when they are allowed to print it for nothing. Even when they can massively multiply their money they STILL can’t make money. We should have let them all go bankrupt and shored up the citizens, not the banks.

    You seem to be enamored of the mighty FED’s great Jew brain. Well if they’re so good then why did we have this huge banking crisis in the first place? Why has the FED and Jews been against derivative regulations where they have to have capital to back up derivatives? That’s what happened in the banking crisis. They wrote derivative contracts to back up housing mortgage bonds and had nothing to back them up. The Jews are a huge rip off that constantly feed on everyone else and that’s why we need to get rid of them. Constantly adding “task” like homework that we should do to waste our time when the basic functions the Jews run are rotten in the first place. We need homework for this, no.

    For those that don’t know here’s how the rip off FED deal works. The Treasury says they need money, The FED says ok give us a bond. The Treasury gives the FED a bond for the principle amount of money they need and the interest to be paid to the FED. The FED gives the country…A BIG FAT NOTHING. Nothing at all. Oh the lying Jews will tell you it creates “”stability” and that they “regulate” the money supply but anyone with three or four brain cells can tell they haven’t done that. If they did that why all the crisis? They only only exist to channel money into Jew pockets.

    The whole FED Jew money system is a farce. Get this…if we pay off the debt…we will have NO MONEY, none. All money is based on debt so if we have no debt we have no money. What a stupid system. Like nothing in the country is worth anything? Like we couldn’t have a system where the money supply was based on net worth? Well we could if we got rid of the Jews.

    The whole stupid FED system is a rip off. Borrowing money is WAY more inflationary than just printing it. Common sense. If you borrow money you not only have to pay the principle you owe the interest. If you just print it directly then you only inflate by the principle. Money 101. The whole system is inflationary where Jews get first pass on the money through their FED friends and then constantly charge us interest on ALL money so that eventually the interest will become so high, it has too because all money is debt so you CAN’T pay it off except with more debt, that the Jews will own EVERYTHING. It’s designed that way. A moments thought will tell you so.

    All your little statistics and silly assed nonsense is to hide the actual rottenness of the Jews system. All of your comment is designed to confuse the situation, which I easily make clear. This shows that “…it’s incumbent on you…” to defend the rotten, crooked, evil, cheating, Jew system.

    There’s your homework.

    Here’s mine, what’s the best way to get rid of the Jews? Can we do so without gassing them all and burning them up in ovens. I hope so it would cost a lot of money to burn up all those Jews. Can’t we just get them top get on planes and go away. Save us a fortune.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Sam Shama
  420. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    ” “just get rid of Jews and all will be fine”

    I never said that. I said get rid of the Jews and it will solve a great deal of our problems. I said frequently that we could be on a much better position to solve the problems we have of the Jews were not around to make things worse. Isn’t better…better? Isn’t the path to solving problems finding out what are the worst first and then tackling those first a valid method of resolving problems? If the Jews are a vast obstetrical to solving an immense amount of our problems, and they are, read the comment on the evil Jew FED, then if we tackle getting rid of the Jews it would free up a lot of time to tackle other problems. Like all these “task” the Jews want us to do, like be more Holy, learn Hebrew and Greek, all this stuff…we’ll have some time to do them instead of constantly trying to stay afloat from Jew attacks. Getting rid of the Jews is the single most liberating task that Whites can do that will have 100% guaranteed results that are time tested and proven to work over hundreds and hundreds of years.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  421. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    What never makes an appearance in the Lobby[at least not in the 2008 edition I carry] is any mention of O & E corporations – Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Halliburton etc.

    That’s funny, my edition has quite a bit to say about the oil industry (…both Exxon and Haiburton are directly referenced in their book):

    Beyond this obvious interest in preserving access to Middle East oil, however, there is little evidence that either wealthy Arab states or a power­ful “oil lobby” has had much impact on the broad thrust of U.S. Middle East policy… Similarly, if oil companies were driving U.S. policy, one would also have expected Washington to curry favor with big oil producers like Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, Muammar Gaddafi’s Libya, or the Islamic Republic of Iran, so that U.S. companies could make money helping them develop their energy resources and bringing them to market. Instead, the United States imposed sanctions on all three of these countries, in sharp opposition to what the oil industry wanted. Indeed, as we will show in Part II, in some cases the U.S. government deliberately intervened to thwart business deals that would have benefited U.S. companies. If the oil lobby were as powerful as some critics believe, such actions would not have occurred

    Excerpts from Part II (emphasis mine)

    P.S. Note well the sources of some of these quotes…. as the saying goes “straight from the horse’s mouth.”

    [MORE]

    What about energy companies? These corporations do engage in plenty of lobbying activities, but their efforts in recent decades have focused al­most entirely on their commercial interests rather than on broader aspects of foreign policy. Specifically, energy companies concentrate on tax policy, government regulation, environmental concerns, access to potential drilling sites, and other practical dimensions of energy policy. For them, foreign pol­icy is normally a secondary concern, and according to Robert Trice, their “primary goal . . . is to create a political and economic environment in the Middle East that will allow them to maximize profits. As such, the political interests of corporate actors are generally much narrower than those of the pro-Arab groups.”131

    This relatively narrow focus is apparent when one examines the website of the American Petroleum Institute, the flagship trade association of the oil industry. Five topics appear under the general heading of “policy issues”: cli­mate change, exploration/production, fuels, taxes and trade, and homeland security. There is no reference to “Israel” or the “Arab-Israeli conflict” any­where on the site, and few references to foreign policy at all. By contrast, Is­rael and U.S. foreign policy are front and center on the websites of AIPAC, the ADL, and the Conference of Presidents.132 As AIPAC s Morris Amitay noted in the early 1980s, “When oil interests and other corporate interests lobby, 99 percent of the time they are acting in what they perceive to be their own self-interest—they lobby on tax bills . . . We very rarely see them lobby­ ing on foreign policy issues . . . In a sense, we have the field to ourselves.”133

    In addition, American corporations appear to be discouraged from trying to influence U.S. Middle East policy by the fear of retaliation from well-organized pro-Israel groups. In 1975, for example, the revelation that Gulf Oil had under­written a number of pro-Arab activities in the United States led to public con­demnations by the Conference of Presidents and the Anti-Defamation League. In response, Gulf bought a half-page ad in the New York Times in which it apologized for its action and told readers, “You may be certain it will not hap­pen again.” As Trice notes, “A vigilant, sensitive, and reactive pro-Israel lobby is one reason why U.S. corporations have tended to avoid direct participation in domestic political debates on Middle East questions.”134

    Some commentators believe that oil and gas companies are driving U.S. policy either to gain lucrative concessions in places like Iraq, or to foment instability that will drive up oil prices and enable them to reap windfall prof­its.135 Not only is there little direct evidence of such behavior, but it runs counter to the long-term interests of major energy companies. Energy com­panies do not like wars in oil-rich regions, sanctions, or regime change—the staples of U.S. Middle East policy in recent years—because each of them threatens access to oil and gas reserves and thus their ability to make money, and such events also encourage Americans to think more seriously about reducing demand for the oil companies’ main product. Thus, when Vice President Dick Cheney was the president of Halliburton, Inc., a major oil services firm, in the 1990s, he opposed U.S. sanctions on Iran (a policy, as discussed in Chapter 10, driven largely by the lobby) and complained that U.S. firms were being “cut out of the action” by America’s “sanctions happy” policy.136 Cheney’s earlier position suggests that if oil companies controlled Middle East policy, the United States would have pursued a very different agenda in recent years.

    None of this denies that oil companies, good capitalists that they are, will seek to profit from foreign policy initiatives that they did not encourage. It is not surprising that oil companies want to obtain lucrative concessions in post-Saddam Iraq, just as they would have been happy to do business with Saddam himself. On balance, however, wealthy Arab governments and the oil lobby exert much less influence on U.S. foreign policy than the Israel lobby does, because oil interests have less need to skew foreign policy in the directions they favor and they do not have the same leverage.137 Writing in the early 1970s, the Columbia University professor and former Assistant Secretary of State Roger Hilsman observed, “It is obvious to even the most casual observer . . . that United States foreign policy in the Middle East, where oil reigns supreme, has been more responsive to the pressures of the American Jewish community and their natural desire to support Israel than it has to American oil interests.” In his comparison of the Israel and Arab lobbies, Mitchell Bard acknowledges that although oil companies like Aramco have conducted lobbying campaigns in the past, the effort “has had no observable impact on U.S. policy.” Or as AIPAC’s former legislative direc­tor, Douglas Bloomfield, told BBC News in 2003, “AIPAC has one enor­mous advantage. It really doesn’t have any opposition.”138

  422. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam,

    “…corporate interests tend to claim primacy of place today.”

    No less in the age of exploration and colonization. The Virginia Company, Plymouth Company, Ohio Company, American Fur Company, etc. Astor was a Sam Walton in his day. Parkman profiles similar enterprise in Canada, Acadia, and Louisiane. He’s fond of distinguishing feudal France from parliamentary England, but both nurtured commercial ventures. The restless search for wealth? The trade route to China was a powerful lure. Oil today isn’t all that different from pelts in the age of hats.

    “I consider them [AIPAC] wholly instrumental in fashioning a subset of American attitudes toward Israel – but they are positively exiguous to the full the reach of American foreign policy.”

    Don’t disagree, though I think Israel-US linkage unhealthily intimate for both, given Likud-GOP romance. ‘Passionate attachment’ level. That said, AIPAC’s far from omnipotent and doing what most lobbyists do. Many here disagree. Conspiracy, like junk food, never goes out of style.

    “[Iraq '03] calculus had nothing to do with filial revenge”

    Agree, though it made it a bit easier for “the Decider.” Consumer economies need energy. Disaster is Walmart running out of stock.

    “For Iran, it has long been Islamic unity…that needed financing from Oil revenues…pan-Islamic ambition…”

    Interesting Khamenei quotes. Is Hassan Rouhani equally evangelical? Shiites dreaming of Saladin reborn? Thought only Sunnis went there. Beware KSA. MbS may tire of yachts, paintings and French château (you already know that).

    Sometimes think the Industrial Revolution – with its attendant abuses – vaccinated the west with healthy skepticism and self-awareness. Suppose I read too much Dickens, Zola, etc.

    “…accidental wealth which brings with it cunning ambition and hubris aplenty…”

    Commonplace when one doesn’t earn it. No fan of taxes, but will raising inheritance limits end well? Coincidence $11 million probably benefits many life-long Congressmen who seem to have amassed it on their modest salaries? Listening to them define ‘middle class’ is a cynic’s delight. Always seems to comfortably include their pay grade.

    “The notion of Peak-Oil is dead. It is more a question of Peak-demand…2042…”

    Interesting. Bahrain (smaller reserves) dealt with depletion years ago. Oil Well No. 1 was a dry hole full of trash in the mid-70s. Kahlifas went into Aluminum, Finance, Tourism and RE (land reclamation) if I recall. Kuwait has more reserves. Al-Sabahs went in for pan-Arab Finance – the Kuwait Fund (KFAED).

    “Iran’s BE is about $140/bbl and KSA’s $104.”

    Help me out: what’s ‘BE’? Reserves?

    “NEOM has been called the investment on a mountain of hubris by many, but it is merely another scheme cooked up by MBS to part a decent portion of the Davos crowd from their capital.”

    Sounds like Jubail in the old days, though that was domestically funded. Wonder what Dubai and Abu Dhabi will look like in a century. Still getting used to Louvre, Gugenheim branches.

    “…corporate interests which might be appropriately called corporate feudalism is firmly in place…American corporations are no more American than Japanese corporations are Japanese, or German ones German…the top 10% [S&P] derive more than 40% of their revenues outside America. These corporations are owned by the shareholders…””

    Agree. Matter of time before all corporate taxes are abolished? Comparison to Ancien Régime nobility will then be complete. If one regards taxes as fees for government services (political and monetary stability, trade security, currency support, exchange oversight, etc.), corporations are sizable consumers. Services vital to investment. Many already evade taxes and expect subsidies from state and local government (GE, Amazon, Aetna, etc.). Fair? Race to the bottom?

    Yes, it’s their job to minimize cost. Nature of the beast. Neither evil or virtuous. But is it sustainable? Should I invest in guillotine production (nice new laser model)?

    Best.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Sam Shama
  423. peterAUS says:
    @Sam J.

    How to put this politely…..disagree

    Your logic looks even O.K. for an average reader (excluding “Jew haters”…they don’t need any logic).

    I just don’t buy it for a second. Actually, to me, it looks as a sort of distraction. Like….we have a problem, to fix it we need to focus on Jews first…….and then and only then we can focus on the problem itself.

    Greed….lust for power….and everything related to that ……isn’t apparently, the problem. Jews are.
    As nobody else hasn’t been greedy and lusting for power. Since Babylon.
    EVERYONE.

    So, while we are rounding up and detaining Jews all over the place our own (gasp) can take over those places and keep doing the same?
    You think they won’t?
    Because Whites don’t do that to Whites? Not even funny.
    Ah, yes they do it because Jews tricked them into it. Even less funny.

    Jews are just better, at the moment, in playing the same game. Better than us….beating us in the same game we created and have been playing since….well…the first human community.
    They are good. We are worse. Asians are bit worse I guess. Ni….I mean …what’s the latest…ah, yes, “African-Americans” are even worse. Re…I mean “Native Americans” are worse even.
    The GAME is the problem, not the Jews.

    Now….fixing the game is something I have no idea how, though.
    I would know how to fix “Jew problem” for sure. Well….if they don’t fight back that is. But makes things easier……..to comprehend and focus on.

    It’s convenient to blame everything on Jews only. Takes away that uncomfortable mirror we stare into when shave.

    I was actually going to delete this comment because it simply makes no sense.
    No person reading this will change his/her position for a milimetre.
    Still….just to, maybe, say that some of us coming here are much more interested in fixing the game than fixing the…them (whoever that them are).

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    , @iffen
    , @Sam J.
    , @Sam J.
    , @Sam J.
    , @Art
  424. Incitatus says:
    @iffen

    “Isn’t this [Operation Ajax] just one intervention that did not turn out well (in the long run)? What about the hundreds that have turned out somewhat okay?”

    Star Trek Prime Directive Number One:
    Do Not Interfere in Alien Planets.
    Screw ups disrupt time and reverse history.

    Seriously? Sure, some interventions have efficacy. WW1? Marshall Plan? Berlin Airlift? My opinion.

    To say nothing of the ones we don’t know about. CIA budget is $14,700,000,000 (2013). That’s got to mean something.

    Too bad we missed the boat in Rwanda ’94.

  425. iffen says:
    @peterAUS

    (excluding “Jew haters”…they don’t need any logic).

    LOL

  426. @Sam J.

    After taking out the Jews cut, and it’s big, we’d all be rich. Every society that has gotten rid of the Jews has prospered.

    That’s the truth.

    If the US weren’t suckered into paying for all their wars over the last century, can anyone imagine how well off we’d all be?

    The SOBs suck up our money and then use it against us and most everyone else on the planet. Oh, but THEY’RE “Da Victumzzzz!!!” Da pore lil wandering soulz. Enough to gag a maggot.

  427. @Incitatus

    Something InZit said to Sam Shama: “… though I think Israel-US linkage unhealthily intimate for both, given Likud-GOP romance. ‘Passionate attachment’ level. That said, AIPAC’s far from omnipotent and doing what most lobbyists do. Many here disagree. Conspiracy, like junk food, never goes out of style.”

    Hi InZit,

    So “AIPAC’s far from omnipotent and doing what most lobbyists do,”eh?

    My, my. Had you “looks,” Jewish Hollywood would want to hire you for an acting job.

    Since your sucking up to Maven might be done for tonight, I suggest you put on a pair of Steve Mnuchin (designer) eyeglasses and read the new PCR article, linked below.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/01/28/trumps-foreign-policy-service-israel/

    Too bad he ain’t here no mo!

  428. @ChuckOrloski

    Yup, I was replying to you, fine Sir! I was in a hurry this AM and neglected to hit the reply button.

    Anyway, thanks for your excellent, non-exiguous comment.

    Never heard of St Anselm, but have read some of the prophets. Too bad them smarties keep ignoring their own prophets. Oh well, if you have a high IQ and a pocketful of shekels, stupidity is as exiguous as the use of “exiguous” is lexiphanic.

  429. @Sam J.

    Here’s mine, what’s the best way to get rid of the Jews?

    I don’t know if this is the best way, but maybe we can take a lesson from (non-racist, cough, cough) Israel; they’ve been known to force birth control onto Jews of the wrong color.

    Israel Admits Forced Birth Control For Ethiopian Immigrants
    ‘We were afraid … We didn’t have a choice … So we accepted the injection’

    by
    Beth Brogan, staff writer

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2013/01/29/israel-admits-forced-birth-control-ethiopian-immigrants

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  430. iffen says:
    @peterAUS

    The GAME is the problem, not the Jews.

    The game is every man for himself. If one has the abilities that are beneficial in the economic and cultural environment that exists today you do very well. Jews have been dealt a disparate hand of those traits and abilities that are conducive to success in the current environment.
    The JQ is whether one believes that they should be handicapped in some way. Will we stay with meritocratic individualism when it is obvious that on average some groups do better or worse than other groups?

    What do you want? Do you want Peter to do well or do you want Peter’s group to do well?

    • Replies: @helena
  431. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    Get a grip on your Judo-entitlement. We all know that a hand full of companies own everything. Most hide their ownership through Switzerland.,

    I am so sorry to have questioned you on this. You are right, everything is hidden in Switzerland. The CEO’s of these corporations are required to be expert yodellers, yodelling being the first level entry signal before they reach the second level where eating just the precise quantity of Swiss cheese opens the pearly gates beyond which lie all the purloined assets. BTW no Judo practitioner, am I. But you do give the impression of being a contortionist.

    And God forbid it will make it so the only reason they expand the money supply is to put money in the pocket of the Jews.

    So, in fact, you are in favour of politicising the Fed. Why didn’t you say so at the start?! This money supply expansion going into the pocket of Jews, do you think the same amounts sitting in the Fed’s various accounts are all fronts? China fronting for the Jews, e.g.? Please don’t keep us in suspense.

    Duuuuhhh…Because the Jew won’t let them. They are blackmailing Congress and Trump is useless.

    You mean entrapment in the company of ladies of the night and such? I have a suggestion; seems these Jews are just too powerful. To counter their vice-like grip the populace needs to commission you, SamJ to look for untouchables from the outer universe. You seem like a fellow who travels wormholes with aplomb.

    Notice MOST PROMINENTLY that you completely skip over the idea of making all the, essentially zero interest, loans to the banks and not to the people. If the problem was housing then why not directly attack the housing loan problem by bailing out the people? What’s wrong with that?

    Here you have a point. A small one. But being the traveller of wormholes you haven’t had the time to consider the implications. The U.S. Treasury, in fact, did enact a number of similar things. Ever hear of HAMP (https://www.hmpadmin.com/portal/programs/hamp.jsp ]? But you are suggesting “Why not just give homes to people?” From each according to his ability to each according to his need. Perfect. I shall call you Mr Pinko from now on. The U.S. Treasury did send the taxpayers stimulus checks. The Fed recapitalised the banking system and shored up the economy. You will hear from Mr Trump tomorrow that the State of the Union is sound. Thank the Fed for doing its part.

    For those that don’t know here’s how the rip off FED deal works. The Treasury says they need money, The FED says ok give us a bond. The Treasury gives the FED a bond for the principle amount of money they need and the interest to be paid to the FED.

    This is where you’ve destroyed any credibility you might’ve had with us Earthlings, Mr Otherworldly Pinko. The FED returns every dollar it receives from Treasury Bonds back to the Treasury after deducting its costs of salaries and other direct costs. Look it up, but not in the Handbook of Planet Germania. Anything you wrote after this is not even humourous.

    Oh wait! I spoke too soon. More comedy here, in this last bit:

    The whole stupid FED system is a rip off. Borrowing money is WAY more inflationary than just printing it. Common sense. If you borrow money you not only have to pay the principle you owe the interest. If you just print it directly then you only inflate by the principle.

    You mean principal, but then one is never sure about your principles. Presumably, you have a novel definiton of Inflation the same one I think I’ve heard it from some genius here in the recent past. For you inter-planetary creatures, just an expansion of money supply is inflation; yes, yes, how can I forget? But, for the rest of the world, inflation is the rise in the General Level of Prices. Paying interest actually reduces your disposable income, reducing spending and therefore causing a downward pressure on prices. Precisely the reverse. But that is not likely to register in the green matter inside your carbon-fibre skull.

    Here’s mine [Homework], what’s the best way to get rid of the Jews? Can we do so without gassing them all and burning them up in ovens. I hope so it would cost a lot of money to burn up all those Jews. Can’t we just get them top get on planes and go away. Save us a fortune.

    I think you’ll have great success if you sat down with your homework donning a special hat made of tinfoil. It’ll conduct well with the interior Osmium. My suggestion? Go with Crystal Meth or green brownies. You’ll have a better experience at a fraction of the cost. Keep doing it without cessation and you’ll be forever in my debt for suggesting the method.

    Happy dreams.

  432. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    “…Your logic looks even O.K. for an average reader (excluding “Jew haters”…they don’t need any logic)…”

    Yet you don’t say where the logic is bad you just attribute (bad) logic to “Jew haters”. You saying that NO ONE who is a Jew hater is logical? That’s not logical. So you’re saying illogical things to prove that other people are not logical. How’s that for logic?(Made me smile to write that).

    “…Like….we have a problem, to fix it we need to focus on Jews first…….and then and only then we can focus on the problem itself…”

    Constantly, constantly, constantly lying. Can’t open your mouths, can’t write a sentence without lying because I never said that. You may be able to pull a quote that says that out of context but that’s NOT what i said. I have said, over and over, that the general state of the US and most White countries biggest problem is the Jews.

    In response to the Hasbara, who have set upon us, or propose to set upon us these task, of being good, or holy or all these other things we should do first before we fight off the assaults of the Jews I merely said, “Let’s get rid of the Jews first and work on all these other problems later”. This is called prioritization. It’s a very simple process where you place the most thought and action towards things that would get the most results. I promise and can guarantee and have massive numerous evidence, look it up for yourself, that societies that are plagued by the Jews once they get rid of them have a very rapid advance in well being,. They are happier. They are more wealthy. Things are better and the children are better fed and gain weight. This has been done. This is an established method of increasing the well being of a country.

    “…Greed….lust for power….and everything related to that ……isn’t apparently, the problem. Jews are…”

    Lies I never said that.

    “…Because Whites don’t do that to Whites? Not even funny.
    Ah, yes they do it because Jews tricked them into it. Even less funny….”

    Never said that and never said that either.

    “…ah, yes, “African-Americans” are even worse. ..”

    Nope didn’t say that either. I have said that Jews are much worse than Blacks for a country.

    “…It’s convenient to blame everything on Jews only…”

    No didn’t say that either.

    What your comment boils down to is you don’t defeat my logic. You use logic, that’s illogical, to challenge my logic and you lie about what I said.

  433. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    My apologies. I forgot something. His whole comment with it’s illogic and constant lies is just another reason we should get rid of the Jews. We could actually be doing something useful instead of fighting off the lies of the Jews. The world would be a much better place. It’s truly tragic the time, lives and progress that’s lost.

  434. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    I have a plan, don’t know if it will work, but since we may be forced to become an immigrant nation then we should work with the immigrants, the Blacks and anyone else we can to throw the Jews out and get rid of them. The Jews, while decreasing White power, have conveniently packed the country with people who don’t give a shit about them. It may very well be that the immigrants really hate White people but they hate Jews even more. (What idiots these Jews. Take a perfectly good country where they can prosper and fill it up with Satan worship, child rape, blackmailed Legislatures and porn. Ruin the whole place to where it’s unlivable. They have something seriously wrong with their heads.) Like they say if it’s raining lemons make lemonade. Let’s us the Whites, Asians, Blacks and Browns get rid of the Jews.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  435. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    “…The GAME is the problem, not the Jews…”

    Just for fun I’ll point out this also foolish illogical thing you’ve said. It’s well known that different populations have different demeanors and attitudes. I mentioned this earlier in relation to dogs. No one should be surprised when a pit bull tears the scalp off some little kid. That’s what they do. It’s also fairly well understood that Whites tend to be more open to strangers and less clannish. Part of the failure of Whites to fight off the Jews is because of this trait.

    Ok let’s relate this to the “Game” you speak of. I believe that Jews are part of the ecostructure of the West. They are breed to be parasitical on Whites. They think they are this omnipotent super beings but in actuality they are just good at preying on people who are not as clannish as they are and others. Notice when they move to populations that aren’t White and are not backed up by Whites firepower they fall right on their ass. I can back this up. Look at these silly assed Jews who went to China with no British or American firepower.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

    The Chinese literally swallowed them up. Gone. Done. Ground into Chinese dust. Now they all are doing all they can to move to Israel because their power in China is…nothing, zilch.

    So to change this parasitical “Game”, including the mass wars the US is in right now which are really Jew wars, we need to get rid of the Jews. Yes change the game get rid of the Jews.

    Never forget. People have lived nice, productive, happy lives for hundreds and hundreds of years without one single Jew

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Zumbuddi
  436. peterAUS says:
    @Sam J.

    Impressive.

    This in particular:

    So to change this parasitical “Game”, including the mass wars the US is in right now which are really Jew wars, we need to get rid of the Jews. Yes change the game get rid of the Jews.

    And this one even more:

    Never forget. People have lived nice, productive, happy lives for hundreds and hundreds of years without one single Jew.

    .
    All in all…good to read all that you posted.
    Sort of reality check.
    Informative.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  437. helena says:
    @iffen

    The whole point is that the Christian Game is different to the Non-Christian Game. Time will tell whether the new Non-Christian society can sustain the civilisation that arose out of the Christian Game. How does it look to you at the moment – is the West currently constructing (Developing through order and progress) or deconstructing (descending into chaos and anarchy in the name of Progressivism)?

    • Replies: @iffen
  438. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus,
    I am afraid this is going to be a short one, only answering your critical questions, as I am summoned by powers greater to attend a function which oppresses every man. :)

    Israel-US linkage unhealthily intimate for both, given Likud-GOP romance.

    Quite.

    Is Hassan Rouhani equally evangelical?

    Not even close, imho. Khamenei in some ways must bless Rouhani’s stance.

    but will raising inheritance limits end well?

    Not a proponent of receiving or passing great inheritance. My suggestion? Anything over $10m adjusted for inflation ought to be returned to the nation to fund infrastructure or emergency spending.

    Listening to them define ‘middle class’ is a cynic’s delight.

    Yes, the devolution of Congresscritters to something unrecognisable is a sight to behold. Darrell Issa typified all that I dislike in a Congressman. Trying to think of others…..?

    what’s ‘BE’?

    Break-even price per barrel. This includes the cost of getting the crude out of the ground plus transportation costs to the refinery, taxation incident to cover the nation’s fiscal needs.

    Wonder what Dubai and Abu Dhabi will look like in a century. Still getting used to Louvre, Gugenheim branches.

    I think they’ll be fine save a sudden turn to Wahhabism. Chances are small, but not zero.

    Agree. Matter of time before all corporate taxes are abolished? Comparison to Ancien Régime nobility will then be complete. If one regards taxes as fees for government services (political and monetary stability, trade security, currency support, exchange oversight, etc.), corporations are sizable consumers. Services vital to investment. Many already evade taxes and expect subsidies from state and local government (GE, Amazon, Aetna, etc.). Fair? Race to the bottom?

    There is a mild argument to be made rejecting double taxation of corporations – paid first at the corporate level and then by stockholders on their realised profits – but I am firmly on the side of corporations getting taxed at higher levels. The current proposal almost forces everyone to be a stockholder. It is difficult to escape the creeping conclusion that in the near future corporations are going to collect our taxes and determine optimal public services and spending; in fact, an argument to that effect already exists.

    Yes, it’s their job to minimize cost. Nature of the beast. Neither evil or virtuous.But is it sustainable? Should I invest in guillotine production (nice new laser model)?

    I think it is possible to limit the place of corporations in society. But it has to be a globally coordinated effort. It is one of those 50-year problems RobinG might endorse.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  439. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    This is a highly interesting development. A long-term problem if solved will bring untold benefits to the U.S. economy. There are pitfalls as might be expected. Better prepare to have every aspect of our lives scrutinised by corporations like Amazon. Better as a shareholder than the alternative.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/30/technology/amazon-berkshire-hathaway-jpmorgan-health-care.html

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Art
    , @RobinG
  440. Sam J. says:

    “…There is a mild argument to be made rejecting double taxation of corporations – paid first at the corporate level and then by stockholders on their realised profits – but I am firmly on the side of corporations getting taxed at higher levels…”

    Corporations have bee ruled by the Supreme Court to be people and to be able to give campaign funds like people. Therefore they should pay the same taxes as people and have the same liability.

    I would only allow different if they renounced their rights as people and refused to give campaign funds.

  441. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    Well Thank You.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  442. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Interesting, thanks. Better as…., I suppose. But that’s what’s wrong with for-profit insurance.

  443. peterAUS says:
    @Sam J.

    That’s the problem with written text.

    Now you got me confused.

    How about we clarify the topic a bit?
    Say, based on

    ….we need to get rid of the Jews. Yes change the game get rid of the Jews.

    and you are, say, the President of USA with your own Administration (like you pulled “Trump miracle” just the proper way).
    How would you do that?
    Objective?
    “get rid of …” is vague. What exactly that would be?
    “…Jews” vague too I guess. What’s the criteria?
    And, the most important, how? Like, impose martial law and start from there? Enact a new law without martial law?
    Then, what state outfit would do that? FBI and police….or military? Some new outfit even?
    Etc.

    Say, you pull “Japanese in WW2″ in USA? Or Nazi effort re Jews? Stalin gulags? Mao program? Pol Pot thing? Rwanda even?
    Or something new?

    Would you be so kind as to explain that?

    Ah, yes and the most important:
    What happens to all those positions “vacated” by Jews?
    What happens to corporations, businesses, any outfit currently owned, managed or mostly populated by Jews?
    Devil is in details.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  444. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    What never makes an appearance in the Lobby[at least not in the 2008 edition I carry] is any mention of O & E corporations – Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Halliburton etc. I won’t mention the lack of mention of the Amen Corner [led by Buchanan] which could barely contain its glee. M&W counted their support as a given; might that raise a few eyebrows?

    Typical lies, twists, and misleading untruths.

    The US oil companies did what they were supposed to do – bring cheap oil to the American public.

    What did the Jew Lobby bring to America other then 9/11, wars, trillions in debt, and the disrespect of the world?

    You Jews owe us!

    Think Peace — Art

  445. Art says:
    @peterAUS

    Greed….lust for power….and everything related to that ……isn’t apparently, the problem. Jews are.

    Who are the captains and major providers of “…. Greed…. lust for power…. and everything related to that….” in America today – is it not Jews.

    Wall Street, media, congress, and Trump are all dominated by Jews.

    Give credit where credit is due.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  446. peterAUS says:
    @Art

    Oh I know how that meme works in certain circles.

    You are missing the point here.

    Now, if this were a serious forum where an executable policy is enacted I’d do my best to explain it, for obvious reasons. This is just an “Internet blather”…nothing more nothing else.
    True, there are bits and pieces of quality info every now and then, but that’s much it.

    Bunch of guys hating Jews, blaming them for everything bad and posting tons of material …not important, really.
    A bit of dopamine rush, a bit of ego trip etc….but, means nothing in real world.

    People in power, ruling over us, do understand that point very well.
    Most Jews get it too. That’s why they are so numerous in those circles.
    Intelligence, hard work, long history and learning from it…that’s what they do well and why they are where they are.

    Bottom line…they get that very well and use it to their advantage.

    Now, back to “fixes”.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Sam J.
    , @Sam J.
  447. Art says:
    @peterAUS

    Now, if this were a serious forum where an executable policy is enacted I’d do my best to explain it, for obvious reasons. This is just an “Internet blather”…nothing more nothing else.

    True, there are bits and pieces of quality info every now and then, but that’s much it.

    Who are the captains and major providers of “…. Greed…. lust for power…. and everything related to that….” in America today – is it not Jews.

    Wall Street, media, congress, and Trump are all dominated by Jews.

    Those are not bits of truth – they are totally true – truths that have profound consequences for humanity.

    What is wrong with you – why do you not hate Jews for taking down America’s democracy? The US siding with fascist Israel is a major lose to all of humanity.

    Do you hate anything? Or are you some intellectual fap that is above it all – looking down you nose at those who are passionate about the current situation. You come across as an above it all know it all.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  448. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    PNHP (Physicians for a National Health Program) responds to Buffett, Bezos and Dimon. See comment by Dr. McCanne.

    http://www.pnhp.org/news/2018/january/what-will-amazon-berkshire-hathaway-and-jpmorgan-chase-do-for-health-care

  449. peterAUS says:
    @Art

    What is wrong with you – why do you not hate Jews for taking down America’s democracy?

    and

    Do you hate anything?

    are interesting questions.
    Point (pun intended) to that point I mentioned before.

    The powers that be, plenty of Jews there for sure, get you/your types and play you well because of that.

    You come across as an above it all know it all.

    On the contrary actually.
    I do know about some topics more than other people here and much less about some other topics than other people here. That’s another point I guess, as, if I knew about this topic I wouldn’t be discussing it here.

    What puzzles my types is that The Game, which, apparently, doesn’t suit a lot of us, is solely blamed on Jews. Nobody and even more important,nothing else.
    Of course the “enlightened” shall sneer at my ignorance, weakness etc. (feels good re that ego trip I mentioned) but, well, the reality is…most of people think as I do. Or, better, a very tiny minority (tiny as tiny tiny) thinks as your types.
    So….you can feel great about yourself but that won’t change a thing.

    In order to make some meaningful move your types would need to prove to my types that you are correct.
    Correct in sense that this:

    So to change this parasitical “Game”, including the mass wars the US is in right now which are really Jew wars, we need to get rid of the Jews. Yes change the game get rid of the Jews.

    And this

    Never forget. People have lived nice, productive, happy lives for hundreds and hundreds of years without one single Jew.

    Make sense. For me they do not.

    The Game is not good for the majority. We need to change The Game. The Game…not the group that plays it the best.
    Because Jews will play the changed one well too.. They are good, as intelligent, hard working and they do learn from history. Unless you forbid them playing it. Sounds…….weak. Almost as cheating.

    Now, the handle “Sam Shama” has been pointing into that direction and,well, I …feel…..there is something there. I don’t know much about those things but they simply make sense.
    I also try to learn from history. Plenty of examples there where greed and lust for power were among elites having nothing in common with Jews.

    So…blaming just Jews for them feels……….simplistic.
    As most of people like. Makes thinking easy. Or no thinking at all.
    Easy.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Art
    , @Sam J.
  450. RobinG says:
    @peterAUS

    Sorry, “The Game” is Human Nature. Some people are good, others are not, and plenty don’t know the difference.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @iffen
    , @helena
  451. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam,

    Iran’s capacity for mischief warrants attention, but moderation may well come from trade normalization, tourism, etc. Never thought we’d make it through the Cuban Missile Crisis, Red menace and duck-and-cover years. Boeing is certainly for it.

    “Darrell Issa typified all that I dislike in a Congressman. Trying to think of others…”

    Glad he’s retiring. My pick is grand inquisitor Trey Gowdy. Stalwart anti-socialist, loopholes his way to an $80k SC state pension at age 46? Another mouth at the trough. $150k settlement for discrimination?

    “This [BE] includes the cost of getting the crude out of the ground plus transportation costs to the refinery, taxation incident to cover the nation’s fiscal needs.”

    Iran BE $140/bbl and KSA BE $104/bbl covers all government spending? Aren’t both BEs above the current price of crude?

    The extraction cost (±) for tar sands and shale?

    “Anything over $10m adjusted for inflation ought to be returned to the nation…”

    Reasonable. Dynastic wealth is dangerous. It’s really a moot issue. Trusts allow more now (e.g. $20+ million/Romney son as per WSJ).

    “double taxation of corporations – paid first at the corporate level and then by stockholders…”

    Sounds like Grover Norquist’s honeyed whispers. Smart guy, Mr. Death Tax. A 501(c)(3) career of partisan intimidation earns $5.7+ million income. Libertarian alchemy akin to Art Laffer’s magic curve. IMO corporate personhood and stockholders are distinct, both depend on government services, both should be taxed.

    “…in the near future corporations are going to collect our taxes and determine optimal public services and spending; in fact, an argument to that effect already exists…”

    Not sure I can sleep at night with that one. Suppose it depends on the corporation. Bad enough they administer health care for most, sheltering employees from realizing the ridiculous expense. Who’s making the argument?

    “…it [limiting corporations in society] has to be a globally coordinated effort.”

    Liable to be a game of whack-a-mole.

    Believe a Puerto Rico-to-USA tariff made it into law. Russia winning any oil rights in Syria?

    Best

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  452. Art says:
    @peterAUS

    The Game is not good for the majority. We need to change The Game. The Game…not the group that plays it the best.

    What you ask for is beyond our reach at this time. Still we had a good workable but imperfect game.

    The Jews have changed the game – the game used to be played, America for America – now it is played, America for Israel.

    Those are the facts. We must not play the “America for Israel” game.

    We must vote people into office who only play the America for America game.

    We must not buy products from those who play the America for Israel game.

    We must engage and common with those who cherish the Christian Western culture that created the America values game.

    We must ostracize those who advance the “America for Israel game.”

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @L.K
  453. peterAUS says:
    @RobinG

    Well…I guess I’d agree that Human Nature is the foundation of The Game.

    Some periods in history and some cultures/peoples managed that better….some worse.

    One would expect that with technological advancement and accumulation of historical knowledge we should manage it better than those before.
    We, apparently, don’t.
    On top of it the mismanagement could go M.A.D. Blame Einstein, Oppenheimer and those Jews in Manhattan Project.

    So, the catch is…how to do that better management?

    Obviously, lots of people have a solution:
    -Get rid of Jews.
    -Impose neoliberal world on the all of the world.
    -Impose “something else”on the all of the world.
    -Cull most of humanity.
    -Pray
    -Meditate
    -Etc.

    Maybe humans aren’t up to the task.
    Maybe the system got too complicated to be managed by us. Don’t know.

    The point is…if something doesn’t change for better, well…there is a chance for that ICMB flight.

    I just don’t think that getting rid of Jews (whatever that means) would solve that problem.

  454. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    How did I miss Trey Gowdy! Remember my first impression of him, his talking head spread across the right-corner of the telly on Fox News. ‘Is there is something fishy about this man?’ I recall thinking. Images of a Halibut on a slab kept re-appearing in my mind, and, his arguments, staunchly in Bibi’s corner didn’t endear either. Mouth at the trough is right. Pensions are appropriate, but at 46?! Speaking of distressing discrimination suits, I think I’ve seen my share in the financial industry. The typical ‘injured’ parties would raise the ire of Buddhist monks. But what are we to do? Lawyers have mortgages to pay :-)

    Oil prices today are nowhere close to what KSA’s fiscal needs would require. Ditto Iran. Precisely the reason KSA is selling a 10% stake [ est. $100b] of Aramco and shaking down the princes [another $100b]. Iran is also pretty badly squeezed and some of the recent uprisings are pointers in that direction. They cannot sustain this indefinitely. Iran has loftier ambitions and feels she ought to play the role of regional power. Unfortunately, that doesn’t suit the US very much. Nor Russia, to be honest, but Russia has struck a deal with them. Breakage of that deal is very much a function of Oil price. We shall see. At times I am overwhelmed by an urge for isolationism, and I really think in the current ME context that is what is called for. Yet that is merely wishful thinking.

    U.S. Shale marginal cost of production is ~ $75/bbl, for the sands about $70/bbl for a stand-alone, or $45 for a steam+gravity asset. So most of Shale output is earning less than marginal cost. Of course, the BE costs for various U.S. productions have no bearing on our fiscal budget. Plus we have massive reserves. I think Wall Street assists MbS to launch a successful IPO of Aramco, or, arrange a private sale to sovereign funds. That takes care of 2018 [and pays for Mbs' little personal shopping sprees]. The question is what happens in 2019 and beyond? If Peak-demand trends appear closer, I think the probability of a strike on Iran goes much higher next year. Bibi’s interests are clearly aligned with KSA in this regard, as he would appreciate a drought on Iranian funding for Hezbollah.

    IMO corporate personhood and stockholders are distinct, both depend on government services, both should be taxed.

    You won’t get a strong objection from me. Another thing to consider is a return to laws enabling somewhat better labour organisation. This trend of an ever-increasing portion of corporate output going to capital is insidious and cannot be sustained. I am not calling for massive re-distribution, but closing our eyes to the alternative we are caught in the midst of, isn’t promising us any long-term stability.

    Russia winning any oil rights in Syria?

    I’ve heard rumours. Would be surprised if they did not. I don’t think Russia has any illusions about Syria; they are wholly pursuing their self-interest and the security of the Russian population in Syria.

    Best

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @geokat62
    , @Incitatus
  455. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    Some people are good, others are not,

    People do good things and people do bad things.

  456. iffen says:
    @helena

    or deconstructing (descending into chaos and anarchy in the name of Progressivism)?

    This.

  457. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous

    Giraldi is a Mensch — unlike moral pigmies inhabiting Israel and the zioconed D.C.
    Giraldi has provided a clear explanation to the root of the current problems: “The Israelis for their part were enamored of the Yinon Plan of 1982 and the Clean Break proposals made in 1996 by a team of Jewish American neocons. Their intention was to transform most of Israel’s neighboring Arab states into warring tribes and ethnicities so they would no longer be a threat. Israeli leaders have stated openly that they would prefer continued chaos in Syria, which remains a prime target. Israel is, in fact, currently bombing Syrian Army positions, most recently near Damascus, while also supporting the ISIS and al-Nusra Front remnants.”

    The ziocons have been enamored by the useful head-choppers of ISIS as well as by the useful Ukrainian neo-Nazis. The Lobby’s squealing about Hitler and Auschwitz has been just a useful distraction and the way to do racket.

  458. annamaria says:
    @whyamihere

    The Yinon hysterics over independent Syria that refused to become the raped and destroyed Libya, “whyamihere?”
    Four millions slaughtered human beings because of the Eretz Israel project. Or as your co-tribalist, the ugly Madeleine Albright said about the death of 500.000 Iraqi children, “we think the price is worth it.” Jewish cannibals.

  459. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    “…How about we clarify the topic a bit?…”

    “…get rid of …” is vague…”

    I’m perfectly happy with vague as long as the general end is stated clearly. As you said yourself details can change. More specific is I want all the Jews to leave all White countries and go to Israel. They can got o China or wherever as I think it would ruin them and greatly lesson the fear of China becoming an oppressive power but the general idea is for them to go to Israel. That would also tickle the hearts of Christians and Zionist like me.

    I’ve said over and over that they should go peacefully if we can get it but I’m for any and all methods to be assured they leave.

    “…What happens to all those positions “vacated” by Jews?
    What happens to corporations, businesses, any outfit currently owned, managed or mostly populated by Jews?…”

    We would fill their positions.

    We would follow the same legislative behavior that the Jews have and pass laws.

  460. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    “…Bunch of guys hating Jews, blaming them for everything bad…”

    This is a lie. None of us here have ever blamed the Jews for everything bad. We just blamed them for just getting us into WWI and WWII, the Federal Reserve, killing Presidents Lincoln and Kennedy. The destruction of Russia, Germany, Spain, England, US and all of Eastern Europe. The opium trade into China. Bringing slaves to America. Bringing in all the people after the 1965 change in immigration laws and all illegal immigration. Destruction of the studies of anthropology, psychiatry and social sciences. Destruction of the school system through uncivil rights for Blacks. Mass murder of Whites by Blacks due to uncivil rights laws. Destruction of competence of government employees by uncivil rights laws banning effective testing. Destruction of the culture by mass media, just a few of which are radio, TV, movies and music. Police committing widespread murder due to Jews training the police. Corruption of the government by bribery and when that doesn’t work blackmail. Murder of people to cover up corruption. Destruction of truth through distortion of the education system and mass media. The lowering of morals through pornography and evil behavior in film and TV. Sexual degeneracy and illegal forcing of Women and Men into trading sex for work. Pedophile attacks on girls and boys in Hollywood. The pushing of communism and socialism. The movement of manufacturing to China. Widespread theft of military secrets and subsequent selling of those to the USSR , China and who knows who else. The banking collapse and subsequent bailout. Running a fraudulent FED currency scheme. Securities fraud in the bank bail outs and Mortgage backed Bond business. Blowing up our buildings and killing our people on 9-11 and the subsequent wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. The war in Ukraine. ISIS. The murder of Lebanese and Palestinians. Organ smuggling. Drug smuggling. Lots and lots of business and bank fraud. There’s more but that’s the major ones.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Art
  461. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    “…Now, back to “fixes”…”

    All problems are best solved by breaking down the problem into parts and weighing the relative changes needed and how much each change would effect the problem. The biggest problem we have is the Jews. Therefore the logical best step, which I might add has been 100% tested and proven to work over multiple societies over hundreds of years, is to get rid of the Jews. That’s what we should work on.

    As for how we do so it’s of little importance. We should get some really smart people and design a program that will get rid of the Jews. We should also take note of those that failed. For example we shouldn’t tell them they can become Christians and then suppose they will no longer be Jews. They tried that and it failed. We should also try to not start a world war while we are getting rid of the Jews. That didn’t work out so good. So there’s two variables needed to get rid of the Jews. 1. Don’t let them say they are something else and stay. They must go. 2. Avoid wars. These two points are a really good start.

  462. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    “…The Game, which, apparently, doesn’t suit a lot of us, is solely blamed on Jews. Nobody and even more important,nothing else…In order to make some meaningful move your types would need to prove to my types that you are correct…”

    [quotes of things I said]

    The first is a lie. No one ever said that the only problem was the Jews. You’re lying. It’s very plain your lying. You know or should know you’re lying.

    Second, this is another one of these “tasks” that you insist we do to prove whatever it is and I’ll tell you again, we don’t need your “task”, we don’t need your list of things we must do. I refer you to the dog with fleas comment. The dog doesn’t need task it needs to get rid of the fleas. We don’t need task we need to get rid of the biggest problem we have “first” which is the Jews. We can Always tackle all these other problems after we get rid of the Jews.

    Since you don’t seem to be getting it I’ll give you another example. If you wish to wash your car and it’s pouring down rain is this the best way to wash your car? No of course not. You wait til it stops raining. Trying to get any sort of moral, ethical and decent life for Whites with Jews all up in their country running things is like trying to wash your car in the rain. We need to get rid of the Jews first then we’ll work on these other ethical problems without their interference. Let’s stop the rain first.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  463. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…U.S. Shale marginal cost of production is ~ $75/bbl, for the sands about $70/bbl for a stand-alone, or $45 for a steam+gravity asset. So most of Shale output is earning less than marginal cost…”

    Wrong, wrong, wrong. Shama is full of fiction.

    “…Right now, some US shale operators can break even at $10/barrel. Costs for the “expensive” ones run around $55 per barrel but are falling fast. With massive quantities of oil and gas still in the ground, there is no economic reason these companies can’t make big money even if energy prices stay in the $40s.”…”

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/3475906-oil-shale-production-breakeven-marginal-costs-moving-goalposts

    Took me three or four minutes to find this.

    It’s actually going to be a lot cheaper even faster. These guys have invented a high power microwave that fits in the bottom of a well. It first steams the water in the hole driving out the oil then it heats up the oil, the rocks don’t absorb much microwave just like plates and dishes in your microwave at home, then the oil can be pumped out. This means that almost all the oil can be removed. Most oil wells have about 40% or higher oil left in them. With this they can take wells that are already drilled and get the rest of the oil. There’s millions??? or a really lot of these wells that are 40% or better full. BONANZA for the US!!! Think how much oil we’ve pumped already and then imagine that it was way less than 40%. It’s a lot.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Sam Shama
  464. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Iran has loftier ambitions and feels she ought to play the role of regional power. Unfortunately, that doesn’t suit the US very much. Nor Russia, to be honest…

    Since you’re being honest, why not mention that it fails to suit the Jewish state… which, along with KSA, is obsessed about Iran becoming a strong competitor in the region?

    At times I am overwhelmed by an urge for isolationism, and I really think in the current ME context that is what is called for. Yet that is merely wishful thinking.

    I, too, am overwhelmed by an urge for isolationism… and agree that it is wishful thinking as long as The Lobby is pushing for regime change and the destruction of those countries deemed hostile to the Jewish state. But here’s the fundamental problem, Sam. There is no anti-war movement to speak of. As I’ve mentioned previously, progressive Jews are normally at the forefront of these movements, providing the resources, both in funding and leadership, that are critical to success. They were the backbone of the anti-war movement fighting against US involvement in Vietnam.

    But, in this case, they are choosing to not participate. I think we all know the reasons for this. While you try and convince The Dumb Goyim that most American Jewry do not fuss about the Jewish state, I think it’s fair to say that the opposite is true. As Brother Nathanael has confirmed, most Jews have a strong passionate attachment to the Jewish state. As long as this is the case – ie, as long as they support The Lobby’s efforts to remake the MENA to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle – millions more will be killed and more Muslim countries will be destroyed, as spelled out in both the Oded Yinon Plan and PNAC’s Clean Break.

    If Peak-demand trends appear closer, I think the probability of a strike on Iran goes much higher next year. Bibi’s interests are clearly aligned with KSA in this regard, as he would appreciate a drought on Iranian funding for Hezbollah.

    This is the most honest statement that has come out of your mouth since I began exchanging comments with you a few years ago. If you are willing, please expand upon this point. Who do you think will strike against Iran next year? KSA, Israel, or USA? How do you see this scenario playing out? Inquiring minds would like to know.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  465. @Sam J.

    They have something seriously wrong with their heads.

    Shh, don’t tell ‘em that. They’re all geniuses and if they hear that, they may start thinking they’re victims er sump’n!

  466. @Sam J.

    There’s more but that’s the major ones.

    Nice start there, Sir!

    Bravo!

  467. @Sam J.

    Shama is full of fiction.

    Fiction? Oh, so that’s what it’s called!

    How can anyone begin to doubt a guy who apparently has claimed to have an IQ of 204, and is also known as the Maven?

    He once told me that debt is good, and if I want to know why, I should study Krugman, who not only has a Nobel Prize, but is well regarded by his peers as being “intuitive.”

    I call him the Kasuistry Kid and ignore him for the most part unless I’m looking for a laugh.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @L.K
    , @Sam J.
  468. helena says:
    @RobinG

    The Christian Game is the control of human nature for the benefit of all – pareto optima (not Marxism but social conventions around inculcating decency and honesty as in the English wool markets from 1300 to 1650ish, restrictions on undercutting the market). Moving away from Christianity means going back to the Madmax world of caveat emptor – more fool the honest trader, what profit is to be had if no lemons are sold?

  469. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    Most of the subjects on which you foam in the mouth about, are not ones you know much about. You are an incompetent Google jockey.

    While technology has been lowering costs of production [as I had mentioned about the steam+gravity assets], this is the reality of costs.

    For our Midland wells, this will show the reality.

    The point is, one has to know what the economically recoverable oil in the long-run will be, not just our immediate cost reductions on account of technology. As wells dry up, costs rise. Read Wood MacKenzie [a top consultant in Oil]

    https://www.ft.com/content/0a7a817a-4863-11e6-8d68-72e9211e86ab

    “About 60 per cent of the oil production that is economically viable at a crude price of $60 a barrel is in US shale, and only about 20 per cent is in deep water, ”

    Reading some random croaking on seeking alpha won’t give you real knowledge. Even in that article, Mr Nattering Naybob [a moron] says: “…some can produce at $10″. Ah, I see! Great revelation to base our energy price expectations on.

    Prices of all commodities change and finding that “some” producers [how many?] can get it at $10 proves nothing.

    Also, Mr foamer, you are the stupidest liar [and your friend Jacues de Shit] who thinks they know how the Fed works. In #429 you claimed like the uninformed fool you are:

    For those that don’t know here’s how the rip off FED deal works. The Treasury says they need money, The FED says ok give us a bond. The Treasury gives the FED a bond for the principle amount of money they need and the interest to be paid to the FED.

    This is the truth:

    Remittances to Treasury have grown substantially in recent years along with the size of the Fed’s balance sheet following a series of bond-buying programs the Fed launched to try to stimulate the economy.

    The Fed earns interest on those bonds as well as income from other sources. Under law, it uses the revenue to cover its own operating expenses and sends the rest to Treasury’s general fund to help pay the federal government’s bills.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-reserve-sent-92-billion-in-profit-to-u-s-treasury-in-2016-1484067602

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    , @Sam J.
    , @geokat62
  470. Sam Shama says:
    @jacques sheete

    I’ve seen all your posts, you decrepit cackling liar. Show me where I said, “Debt is good”. I have written about optimal debt and the irrelevancy of debt in determining the value of the asset being financed.

    You are a pathetic liar. LOL

    • Replies: @L.K
  471. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam,

    “…my first impression…’Is there is something fishy about this man?’”

    You have good instincts. He served 10 years as a SC district attorney. Pensions require 24, but “solitcitors” and judges have a buy-in loophole to add unserved time. Trey, age 46, reported $88,432 in pension income a year arriving in Congress (2011). Tea party fiscal hawk indeed. He’s not alone:

    ‘Nearly One in Five Members of Congress Gets Paid Twice’

    https://www.taxpayer.net/budget-appropriations-tax/nearly-one-in-five-members-of-congress-gets-paid-twice/

    Admirable Congressmen? Rep. Walter B. Jones (R-NC) is interesting. ‘Freedom Fries’ menu author, very pro-Iraq invasion ’03. Changed his mind as occupation unfolded sans WMDs. Now one of the few doves. Routinely speaks against reckless militarism. Owns his mistake with rare self-effacement. Seems a decent man.

    “Oil prices today are nowhere close to what KSA’s fiscal needs would require. Ditto Iran.”

    Interesting. Nothing like hunger to make one focus on the food chain. Agree Iran can tighten the public belt more than KSA, despite having triple the population and a third per capita GDP. Iranians are acclimated to hardship.

    Saudis? Not so much. As Blanche DuBois might say, they depend on the kindness of strangers. Expatriates hold 66% of KSA jobs, despite 12% native unemployment (2012). Native work in the 90s was more social program than productive labor. Maybe different now, but wouldn’t bet on it.

    “…isolationism… wishful thinking.”

    I’d be happy as a neutral good neighbor. No meddling. Act when there’s a fire. Address neighborhood fire bugs with communal consent. Foreign policy ala Hippocrates. Do no harm.

    “…most of Shale output is earning less than marginal cost… we have massive reserves.”

    A couple centuries worth in 80s surveys (more now?). Texaco and Raytheon tested microwave extraction in Utah back then. Cleaner than fracking, but requires more energy.

    “…[IPO] pays for Mbs’ little personal shopping sprees…”

    Wonder what he’ll want next. Stormy Daniels is available.

    “The question is what happens in 2019 and beyond? If Peak-demand trends appear…probability of a strike on Iran goes much higher next year.”

    Iran could easily retaliate by striking eastern KSA oil fields, refineries, tanker terminals. A world of hurt. Doubt anti-missile technology is all it’s cracked up to be.

    “…ever-increasing portion of corporate output going to capital is insidious and cannot be sustained.”

    Pressure on unions is unhealthy if not addressing genuine abuse. Seems excessive here.

    Stock buy-backs, if the result of tax reform, seem another feudal step. Be interesting if there’s an increase in M&A, consolidation like CVS-Ætna. Can we expect more adventures like ‘Barbarians at the Gate: The Fall of RJR Nabisco’?

    Agree on rewards for Russia in Syria. Anything less would be surprising.

    Best

  472. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Besides looking for a good laugh, the only other good reason to read this Zionist shill is if you are having a bout of insomnia…

    1, 2, 3….zzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  473. L.K says:
    @Sam Shama

    shameless to J.S: ‘You are a pathetic liar.’

    Shameless wrote the above while looking at himself in the mirror…

    Tsc, tsc, tsc..

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  474. L.K says:
    @Art

    Hey Art,

    peterAUS is a shameless supporter of the Zio-American Empire, hegemony over the entire globe, full spectrum dominance.

    He is also a keyboard warrior who loves war from a distance; there is a record here at unz of this asshole’s warmongering, specially under the Saker’s articles( he hates the saker).

    BTW, have you guys noticed that when conversation is dying at a certain thread and people are moving on to others, that is when these zionist shills, like shama, iffen, and that boring imbecile, inZitatus, show up, hijack the thread & try to make it their playground?

    So sad…

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Incitatus
  475. Sam Shama says:
    @L.K

    L.K. slithers in. Perhaps you need to visit your father in the reptilian enclosure. He’ll give you a treatise on debt as he understands it: to your mother for the night when she stepped in.

  476. peterAUS says:
    @Sam J.

    I’m for any and all methods to be assured they leave.

    I believe you.

    We would fill their positions.

    I know. That’s what all that is all about in the first place.

    None of us here have ever blamed the Jews for everything bad. We just blamed them for…..ETC

    Of course you do.

    The biggest problem we have is the Jews.

    That’s one option.Yours.
    Another is to take a good hard look at the mirror. Things like introspection, reflection. Hard, uncomfortable things. Your option is much easier. At least in “Internet blathering”.
    I am not quite sure (which does make coming to this site interesting) do you really believe in all that you wrote or there is some game there.
    If game, well, not great but not bad.
    If you really believe that, well, it’s very good that we still have free speech so such thoughts and sentiments can be seen. A reality check. An interesting topic. I’ll stop here. Just a hint, quoting you:

    You’re lying. It’s very plain your lying. You know or should know you’re lying.

    Three times in a row? Interesting.

    Since you don’t seem to be getting it…

    I think I got enough of it. I also think you got nothing of mine. Both make sense.
    Good luck.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  477. Art says:
    @Sam J.

    There’s more but that’s the major ones.

    That is a great comment. It is all true.

    It truly is staggering the width and breath of Jew wrong doing in this world.

    Jews are given credit for being smart – when they should be seen, not as smart – but as willing to go one step lower than others. If there are two business doing the same thing – the Jew business will be hiring illegal Mexicans at lower wages. A Jew wins by cutting corners that an ethical person does not even think about doing. Jews feed on, abuse, and exploit an honest culture.

    Jews are bottom feeders – they win by going one lower than the existing ethical culture. It is obvious that as the Jews win in a culture – the culture morally slides lower and lower.

    With every weakness known to mankind – there is a Jew exploiting it. Look at Hollywood – the ethics that it produces just get lower and lower – ever more sex, ever more blood, killing, and gore. The angry exploitation of victimhood – that is seeking violent revenge is fostered and standard fare. Anti-culture gender-bender sex is normalized for profit. Wholesome culture is degraded and made fun of. Trash is called art.

    When a culture is totally taken down and there is nothing left to ill-use – the Jew moves on.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  478. Art says:
    @L.K

    BTW, have you guys noticed that when conversation is dying at a certain thread and people are moving on to others, that is when these zionist shills, like shama, iffen, and that boring imbecile, inZitatus, show up, hijack the thread & try to make it their playground?

    L.K,

    Ya’ – you can hear them coming down the hall in their stiff brown shirts and jackboots.

    When they arrive, they start a meaningless argument on oil prices – while their fascist sh*thole Israel is raping Syria, pitting ethnicity against ethnicity. Disgusting isn’t it!

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. The Jew are the champions of chaos that levels a culture to ruble.

  479. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    This is a rushed entry, so pardon any excess of typos etc.

    Geo, you well know that America – her population and leadership throughout history – has gone through waves of isolationistic sentiment followed by extreme engagement; where no intertemporal factors other than her own basic urges can be properly identified as uniquely causal. In summary, America has done much good.

    I’ve never denied that Jews in this country have a special identification with Israel. Why shouldn’t they? Israel, the modern state, is a relatively new nation, and many in the diaspora hold emotional attachments no different than new immigrants from Ireland, Italy, Germany, Japan etc. held for the country of their forefathers. Of course, there are unique differences, chief amongst which has been rendered verboten on this webzine. Be that as it may, my sense is it takes about a hundred years for these ethnic attachments to dissipate, and, I’ve got no reason to believe that Israel will prove an exception to that rule.

    Netanyahu’s fear of Iran is legitimate. Setting aside discussions about what Israel has or hasn’t done to Pals – Israel Shamir has more than vividly captured it in his recent essay:

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/it-has-never-been-so-good/

    The Palestinians are joining in this prosperity by building homes. There is a great building boom all over the West Bank. New apartment houses grow on every empty spot. Yesterday’s poor villages like Imwas near Bethlehem and Taffuh near Hebron became real towns of 3 to 4 floor modern houses, very similar to those coveted by Israelis. They are not as charming and beautiful as those built by their fathers and grandfathers, but it is a global trend.

    It is proper to approach Netanyahu’s position from the perspective of a leader who finds himself fighting the threat of Hezbollah funded almost exclusively by Iran. Of course he wants Iranian influence out of his backyard! You would too, had you been elected PM. Most liberal Jews are not fond of Bibi’s actions, but you must remember they are Americans and while Israel is in their minds they have lives to live and bills to pay and cannot spend great effort countering Netanyahu. To wit; the recent snub that Bibi delivered to his much more fervent conservative supporters. He denied their wish to allow women pray at the Western Wall raising the ire of his previously unflinching supporters. In short, Bibi does not give a shit. He is an opportunist and counts the support of AIPAC to make whatever marginal impact it can to move Washington’s agenda primarily determined by global money and strategic factors. Now, many of these “strategic” factors are quite complex, may even seem muddle-headed, difficult to clearly identify etc., but the money factors are not. In the present circumstances, as I alluded earlier, pay attention to KSA and its objectives.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @Art
    , @geokat62
  480. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    “… that debt is good, and if I want to know why, I should study Krugman,..”

    AHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHAAH good for who?

    As I stated before about the big, one of many, FED Jew scam. If you borrow then you owe the principle AND the interest. You could print money with no backing and have it be more fiscally prudent.

    So that when you see it in the future you will know what;s going on they are trying to ramp it up with a new global scam called the Special Drawing Rights(SDR) It’s the EXACT same scam but even worse because they will limit the amount of credit you can have according to some, supposed, formula. Of course it will really be a method to punish the West and build up Asia while looting the West and lining Jew pockets.

    To the Jews reading this you are building up an immense almost fanatical hated towards yourselves. You can babble on here with your lies but you convince no one. Many people know. Most of them keep quite about it. I say what I see but there are many that are silent who will get to the end of the rope and then it will be too late for the Jews to reform. You can’t say…oh we were just kidding…we didn’t really mean it…it was an accident. You’re moral, financial, military and psychological attacks on Whites will rebound on you and if we use the same level of hatred towards you as you us then you will be in deep shit. This is exactly what happened in Germany and many other places in the past. You need to restrain your psychopathic leaders before they ruin you all.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  481. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    So the “Sham” is going to show us graphs. You said,“…U.S. Shale marginal cost of production is ~ $75/bbl, for the sands about $70/bbl for a stand-alone, or $45 for a steam+gravity asset. So most of Shale output is earning less than marginal cost…”

    You can’t even read your own damn graphs so I don’t think you’re in any way a reliable source. There’s a good interview with Erik Prince recently where he said he was perfectly comfortable finding oil at $40 a barrel. Not to mention it’s a world wide market and in no way does JUST US prices matter. All the peak oil guys predictions have fallen on their asses time and time again. You also completely missed the significance of the the new microwave tech I mentioned. They’ve already started using this. I have to repeat because you mental gears get stuck and grind away on any reality that you don’t like, it means we can recover a large part of wells that have been drilled decades ago that are 40% or so full. This drastically reduces discovery cost.

    AT least I have the common sense to post references that are not behind a pay wall. You want it that way. Here’s my super secret advanced 100% no doubt source that says you don’t know what your talking about

    https://gist.github.com/roachhd/1f029bd4b50b8a524f3c

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  482. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…Remittances to Treasury…”

    You mean Remittances to Jews. So they give us a pittance. A nothing. A minuscule drop of water in an ocean of cost back. Wow, maybe they’ll give s some coupons to save on laundry powder. It doesn’t change at all the fact that we give them bonds with obligation to pay and they give us nothing. Oh wait…I made a mistake they give us…worthless Jew advice that makes things worse so I guess they don’t give us nothing. We should be charging the Jews for the FED not the other way around.

    What you don;t understand is that your Judeo lies don;t work so well any more. People can see your deception here and other places. It’s being written down and comparisons can be made of what you say and what really…is. The internet has made correlation of your lies much easier and many have already been cataloged and collected.

    This will eventually convince people that the only way to deal with the Jews is the time tested method to get rid of them. For thousands of years people have been trying to get along with you but your nature is to fuck everyone over. Eventually people weary of your lies and they get rid of you. After that they immediately experience a great burst of relief and a rapid advance in well being for the whole society. Once you are gone people will be in amazement that they didn’t get rid of you earlier and save themselves from so much grief from your lies and deceptions.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  483. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…There is a great building boom all over the West Bank…”

    What mindless idiots. Of course there’s a building boom. The Israelis blew up all their houses. Mindless Jewish lying stupidity. They have to build if you blow it up. This is the stupid broken windows economics theory of the Jews. If Jews break your windows or destroy your houses then it’s economic growth to rebuild them. Must be some more of that moron economist…what is it…Krudman or whatever.

    All your little mindless deceptions, “building boom”, the “task” you say we need to preform, the hidden links where you make your great pronouncements we’re, just supposed to believe in, are all falling flat. Your supposed superiority where you can “pretend” to be so bright!!! are not working. It’s obvious you’re losing the narrative. I know you’ll continue but the more you wrote the more you display your frivolity, weakness and deceitful intentions. All your attempts at waylaying the narrative have failed.

    The fact is that this article, you know the one you are trying to derail, is about how the Jews are trying to murder everyone, or a lot anyways, of people in Syria and that this was started by the Jews attack on the USA on 9-11 which Jews are responsible for.

    This is the primary, one of many, reasons we should get rid of the Jews. You can’t be trusted and all of your attempts to derail the subject and all your attempts to lie about the past, present and future have fallen flat. You are only digging the hole deeper and deeper. This of course gives me great joy to see you so helpless in the face of truth. It gives me great joy to see how futile your lies are. It gives me great joy that everyone can see publicly that that you are not ever willing to be honest and that the only solution is to get rid of the Jews.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  484. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    Ah yes. Very impressed with your github page, dolt. You are some sort of IT hack. I employ many of them. IT types i.e., and I know what you suffer from.

    Do you trade oil, oil refiners etc? I am sure you don’t. Your statements reek of ignorance. The ~$75 is the level what is experienced as BE at point of refinement. You don’t know Jacues Sheete. What are you blabbering about Peak-Oil? Repeating what I wrote. Wellhead BE prices are $60, and at point of refinement $70+. At least.

    Still, you are a vituperative liar, as evident from the uninformed blather you spread about monetary policy. Do you realise your entire gobbledegook about the Fed earning interest from the Treasury is contrary to the LAW? Fool. Care to blather some more on this?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  485. Sam J. says:
    @peterAUS

    “…Another is to take a good hard look at the mirror. Things like introspection, reflection. Hard, uncomfortable things. Your option is much easier. At least in “Internet blathering”…”

    Yet you totally skip over the idea that we can do this all we want after we get rid of the Jews and in turn stop the pissing all over us keeping the Jews would entail. Myself and lots of others know that the Jews did 9-11. It’s not just all the other things the Jews have done they have attacked us multiple times. That alone is reason enough to get rid of them. Forget all this “task” and “self improvement” that we need to do it’s the Jews that need to improve but through thousands of years they never do. They always have followed the path of attempting to destroy any population they live among and everyone else they could also. It is no good having Jews tell you to look at yourself when they are only using it as a deception to delay us looking at them. The only way to deal with people that refuse to change like the Jews is to get rid of them. If it will make you fell any better we will call it “tough Love”. Oh how fuzzy!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  486. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    Continue to blather.

    You mean Remittances to Jews. So they give us a pittance. A nothing. A minuscule drop of water in an ocean of cost back. Wow, maybe they’ll give s some coupons to save on laundry powder.

    No Mr Pinko. Last count more than $98b went to the U.S Treasury from the Fed on a balance sheet of $4.5tr. That is a 2.2% annual interest, precisely what the duration-weighted average of Fed Treasury bond portfolio would indicate.

    Here is the source. No paywalls

    https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/other20150109a.htm

    Other than that I am happy to send you free laundry powder; you need it. Plus complimentary soap.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  487. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    Forget all this “task” and “self improvement” that we need to do it’s the Jews that need to improve but through thousands of years they never do.

    Oh, we have improved ourselves continuously. Look around. What have you done for your own redemption?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  488. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/it-has-never-been-so-good/

    This is the article which speaks about housing in Israel. Written by Israel Shamir, who hates Jews. Cre to froth some more?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  489. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    I’ve never denied that Jews in this country have a special identification with Israel. …. …. …. no different than new immigrants from Ireland, Italy, Germany, Japan etc. .… …. …. Be that as it may, my sense is it takes about a hundred years for these ethnic attachments to dissipate

    Tsk tsk America — you only have another 40 years of this Jew “attachment” thing.

    Oh boy’ only two more 9/11’s.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Really — “no different than new immigrants from Ireland, Italy, Germany, Japan” – Jews are such liars.

    p.s. Where are you Jews going next?

    p.s. We all know you don’t plan on staying here.

  490. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    Ah Sham Sham lose one argument so you move on to other lies and obfuscation. It’s YOU that bought up all this “cost of production”. I’ll be glad to answer but let’s make sure everyone knows you talk about anything but the actual article we’re supposed to be responding to because you know as well as I do that the Jews caused the whole massive death wars in the middle east. Starting with the Jew attack on the WTC on 9-11 and continuing.

    Let’s add further that you’re big stupid Jew middle east attack will in the long run make everyone there hate you even more. They will also become much better at fighting. It’s not there yet but eventually someone will come along that will unit the Muslims because of your hate attack on them and they will kill the fuck out of you. This has already happened on a smaller scale with Hezbollah. You kept killing the leaders until now they have a much smarter class of leader. This guy kicked your ass in the Lebanon border war. You Jews had to pack up when you got the shit kicked out of you, (because Hezbollah got rid of the Jews),. This has happened on a smaller scale in Palestine. Your special forces went in got the shit kicked out of them and they had to run away, (because the Palestinians got rid of the Jews), and then you had to fire artillery at them and flatten everything.

    When you are overrun we will not let you and your hate come here. There may be guerilla war to get rid of you as we know how evil you are. The breaking point is not there yet but you greedy Jews will eventually completely crash the US economy as you can’t help yourself with you fantastical greed so it’s inevitable that you will kill the economy and then all these hungry people will be mad as hell. We will all know it you Jews turning everything to shit that will be the reason it happened. You think that,”Well my blackmailed Politicians will save me”, but they won’t. They can’t. They don’t have the power. Just in Pennsylvania alone there’s more hunters than there are Men in the US military. So the idea that you can get all of them to fight for you is nonsense. People will be roaming the country looking for you for revenge for what you did to their country. Of course this might not happen but you Jews have a habit, for thousands of years, of constant lying and degenerate behavior until people can’t stand your psychopathic selves any longer and go nuts. If you would act like decent human being then you would be fine but…you can’t. You have some sort of deep Satan worshiping degenerative type mental defect. You should all be ashamed, but your not and that’s the problem.

    S for fracking.

    From EIA website “…new oil wells average 200,000 barrels in the first year (550 bpd). take a price of $50 and that equals 200,000 x $50 = $10 million.

    If a well can be drilled and fracked for $10m …[I Sam J. say this can be done for much less]…then it pays itself off in the first year and subsequent years are all gravy.

    Such a well might be expected to produce 1 million barrels over 25 years so even at $50 it would generate $50m with only about $10m initial investment which is paid back in year one
    The big positive of shale wells is quick return. …[NOTICE the quick return means shale is MORE valuable meaning that the rice can be higher and still make money over conventional]…The majority of the production happens In the first 3 years which is much much better than the same 1 million barrels produced at a flat rate of 40,000 barrels a year for 25 years.

    Shale oil may well be profitable at a price of $25 which is closer to the hundred year average oil price….”[DING,DING,DING]

    Your graphs can’t calculate correctly. Garbage, or Jew data, in garbage out. You need a new keyboard data puncher.

    Want some graphs?? Here’s my graph of how happy and joyful a population is with Jews in their country for x=greater tan zero. Notice the massive happiness and joy when there are no or little Jews.

    Now that’s A GRAPH! This fabulous graph is direct proof that we should get rid of the Jews.

    As for my enlightenment to others on the evil that is the Jew FED here’s the numbers from the government on how much we are ultimately paying them. Notice the lying Jew may say that this comes from different sources but since the “money” created is directly tied to a bond given to the FED it doesn’t matter how many times it’s washed it still originates with and is cleared by the FED.

    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm

    “…Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding…

    Available Historical Data Fiscal Year End
    2017 $458,542,287,311.80 …”

    Notice that the Jew said nothing about all this interest and how it’s inflationary far beyond just printing money in the first place. Notice the Jew said nothing about “all money is debt” because…it is. It’s set up that way so the Jews can rip us off. We Americans had a system, written about by Benjamin Franklin, that was far superior even in colonial times based on land values to paper money but the Jews made us stop using it.

    The Japanese are smart. They don’t let the Jews issue money for them so when they have debt they just…line through it and say it’s paid. Smart Japanese. Same for them not allowing the Jews to jam their country with immigrants. Notice there are next to no Jews in Japan and that is why they are really happy people with happy children that actually learn something in school besides that White people are evil and that the Jews should be given anything they want because of the Holahoax. Us, we have Jew schools with Jew media and it’s constant torture by the fucked up evil Jews who instead of making the world better constantly destroy everything they can find and turn it into shit. Everywhere the Jews go turns to shit. Everything they do turns to shit. The Jew single most productive activity is to turn everything to shit and make wherever they go unlivable because of all that shit.

    Now they’re, supposedly, leaving France because…well they fucked it up and filled it with Muslims. Turning it into shit as usual. This just another in the vast, long, almost ridiculously massive amount of reasons to get rid of the damn Jews before things get worse.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Sam Shama
  491. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “… That is a 2.2% annual interest, precisely what the duration-weighted average of Fed Treasury bond portfolio would indicate…”

    What mindless babbling bullshit. You Jews beat all that can be seen on planet earth at fabricating discombobulating lying and obfuscation. So we should be happy that we get a small portion of interest back that we didn’t need to pay to the Jews in the first place. What hubris you mentally evil geezers have, How many evil hateful things will you do and then tell us,”Oh we’re being helpful”. What did we get for giving the FED a bond we’re supposed to pay principle and interest on??? Nothing not a damn thing. Well we did get a few things bad advice, ripped off and a Jew dominated country. Not only that, you abuse and attack us for not being happy at your greedy assed little pittance of giving a little interest back. You Jews are truly the worst people on all of planet earth. There are no more greedy people anywhere. You have no shame and only care for your tribe. While I really hate that we should become more like you it’s inevitable that we will to fight off your psychopathic tribal ways. It’s just necessary to survive. It’s a shame. I don’t want to be driven by hate and evil like you people. It’s terrible but you demand it. You can not control yourselves or your evil psychopathic leaders. If you think you will kill us off like you did the Russians you’re a fool. Any sign of a whole scale build up of control like you did to the Russians will mean people will start protecting themselves and you Jews are the aggressors.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  492. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…What have you done for your own redemption?…”

    We don;t need to be redeemed, we need to get rid of the Jews.

    “…Look around you…”

    Uhh… you look around yourself. How many times have the Jews with their psychopathic evil tribal ways thought they had complete control and the next thing they knew, gotten rid of. This time will be different though. You could count on blaming the last group you ripped off, “they were mean to us, blah, blah, blah”, and it couldn’t be checked out. Nice White people would let you in but when it happens this time…everyone will know. They will look at the lies you are telling right now. They will see how you behave and, as Trump would say, not good.

    Jews are so stupid and short sighted. You’re niche is ripping off non-tribal Whites. It won’t work anywhere else. The other tribes on this planet don’t care about the Holahoax. As you import more and more of them they may hate Whites but they hate you way, way more and then…we will get rid of you. It won’t make Whites position any better but we will be rid of you and then we can work on all those “task” you deem so important.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  493. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    More deception. You dispute that building if blown up need to be rebuilt for people to live in buildings? Difficult position to defend.

    “…Written by Israel Shamir, who hates Jews…”

    No he hates Jews like you who defend your psychopathic leaders hurling downward in a rush to oblivion. He hates Jews like you who are heartless tribal scum who want to destroy everyone, everyone that is not them. No he hates Jews like you who have no place for or any room in your heart for any semblance of decency. No he hates Jews like you who make excuses for any savage behavior of the Jews.

    That of course doesn’t mean I love him or I’m a fan boy of his. He’s just doing what the Jews always do and sees that the path you are on is to your determent. He’s trying to wake you up to how you are hurling to your own destruction. He’s trying to save the Jews in his own way. I think, though I’m not sure, that this what is what unz is doing. Maybe not, maybe, he just wants to collect names of people opposed to Jews.

  494. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    HAAAHAA you spent a few hours, if not more, writing 1100 words of rubbish. That’s not new. Let me simply point to one howler, which should make clear to all what a prize nincompoop you are.

    You trotted out the total outstanding debt of the nation over a period of time. The fed’s balance sheet holds $4.4 tr of Treasury debt, Mortgage securities and GSE debentures. At the peak, it was $4.5tr .

    Here’s a real graph for you, mouth-foamer:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TREAST

    Obviously, let us know if you can discern the difference between total outstanding debt and the amounts held by the Fed. Plus the implied interest on those principals amounts.

    Other than that do let me know how much laundry powder you require. My sense is more than the average. Much more.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  495. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    You need Xanax. Not sure what side effects it would have for a Meth head, but it’s worth a try.

    Happy dreams

  496. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    I am so sorry, but I have to ask this question. When you say :

    [.....] Us, we have Jew schools

    do you mean to say that you are studying the Torah and the Talmud? How fascinating.

    Also, please humour me:

    Now they’re, supposedly, leaving France because…well they fucked it up and filled it with Muslims.

    How long have you been suffering from these delusions?

  497. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    This is the truth:

    Sam, I love it when you preface your statements with these words..

    One observation, though. It seems you are more inclined to speak the truth when it comes to matters economic… but much less so when it comes to matters political. I wonder why that is?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  498. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam J.

    Trump would say, not good.

    No; Trump would not say that. His daughter and son in law are Jewish. Grandchildren obviously as well. Trump himself is an honourary Jew.

  499. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Geo,
    Well, shall I say “guilty as charged?” Will that satisfy you?

    Truth is, I don’t see political matters quite as cut and dried as economic ones. Here’s a thought: can you seriously consider your favourite subject once again, and tell me what relative weights you’d assign as factors, to the influence of the lobby vs. the monetary angle?

    It’s late and I have an early flight. So I bid you good night until the next time.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @geokat62
  500. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    I only answer these things to show what dissemblers and liars the Jews are. They never disappoint!

    “… The fed’s balance sheet holds [blah, blah, blah]…”

    Why do they hold any? Why do we need the Jew FED. Notice all you good people that the Jews talk about this statistic and that statistic but I get to the root of the problem.

    “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.” – Henry David Thoreau

    We don’t need the Jews. We don’t need the FED. I don’t give a damn what they hold, the Jews shouldn’t run our financial system because they’re a bunch of crooks. We can easily see that giving them bonds, interest and principle for their bad advice, screwing all the Whites and never ending debt is a bad deal. If they hadn’t have bribed and blackmailed so many people plus hidden this then we would be like the Japanese and have a free country. The Chinese also don’t let the Jews run their country.

    This is absolute proof that the only thing you can do with the Jews is get rid of them. They refuse to be honest and never, ever, ever get to the bottom of any situation, which is the Jews are decadent, perverted, cheating, swindlers and prefer to just dissimulate all day long. His whole argument is,”you’re stupid” and [Let's avoid talking about the perfidious Jew deprivations on everyone the live among].

    You the fair readers here can see what the whole Jew stick is. Dissimulate, throw up smoke, dust and mirrors. Insults. Lots of finger pointing in different directions to lead you astray and lies. You’re getting a great play by play of their actions for free, well not for free they’re destroying the country, but for cheap anyways of exactly what they do. Thanks Sham, Sham[he probably thought this name was clever but...well it's accurate anyways].

  501. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    Do ADL operatives fly first class on US taxpayer $, or are you forced to settle for Business class?

    Wishing you a crying 2 yr old

  502. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Truth is, I don’t see political matters quite as cut and dried as economic ones.

    Couldn’t agree more. That said, rather than taking a quantitative approach, as we do in the natural sciences, a qualitative one is more common for the social sciences.

    So rather than having to explicitly state what relative weights we are using, it is more common to use terms that convey the relative importance of the various factors, in terms of the relative role these factors may have played in the outcomes associated with the implementation of some political policy.

    Some of the terms commonly used to convey relative importance include: critical, paramount, driving force, etc. These are the terms that apply to the importance of the role played by The Lobby when it comes to the US’s role in remaking the ME.

    As the good professors reminded us, the influence of The Lobby was a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition for invading Iraq. In other words, without it, the invasion would not have taken place.

    Makes sense?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @RobinG
    , @iffen
  503. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    Art,

    Wonderful post! 9 on the HebrewMeter! You’re back on top.

    And what prose:

    “…Jew wrong doing in this world…abuse… willing to go one step lower than others…wins by cutting corners…culture is degraded…angry exploitation…seeking violent revenge…ever more sex, ever more blood, killing, and gore…anti-culture gender-bender sex…morally slides lower and lower…culture is degraded…fascist sh*thole Israel…disgusting…Jews…Jews…Jews…Jews…Jews…Jews…Jews…Jews.”

    Awesome! Particularly the “gender-bender sex” bit. Don’t worry. Not going to ask where that came from. Mum’s the word. Respect your privacy.

    Then your love note (#488) to L.K:

    “…you [L.K] can hear them [zionist shills…shama, iffen, and that boring imbecile, inZitatus] coming down the hall in their stiff brown shirts and jackboots.”

    We “shills” are Nazis? Are you sure? Here’s a quiz. See if you agree with:

    “That’s why the peoples have to die — so that the Jew can live. He drives the peoples to war to make a profit from the fratricide of the white race. In the World War 11 million gentiles had to die. The Jew was the winner.”

    “The Jew always lives from the blood of other peoples, he needs such murders and such sacrifices. The victory will be only entirely and finally achieved when the whole world is free of Jews.”

    “There must be a punitive expedition against the Jews in Russia, a punitive expedition which will expect: death sentence and execution. Then the world will see the end of the Jews is also the end of Bolshevism.”

    “We know the enemy, we have called him by name for the last twenty years: he is the World Jew. And we know that the Jew must die.”

    –Julius Streicher, ‘Der Stürmer’ editor, Nüremberg

    Sounds just like you, Art. And your pals.

    Julius wore the “stiff brown shirts and jackboots.” A man so criminal Dolf dismissed him from Party office (his editorial duties continued). A man so vile his Nüremberg codefendants avoided him like a plague. One can easily visualize spittle running down his chin.

    What about you, Art? Sponge or drool-cup? Still humping that table leg?

    “Think Peace” would be more convincing if you rose above incoherent race-baiting. Just a thought.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Sam J.
  504. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “As the good professors reminded us, the influence of The Lobby was a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition for invading Iraq. In other words, without it, the invasion would not have taken place.”

    Listen to the “good professors” geo. “Necessary, but not…sufficient” means ‘the Lobby’ wasn’t the sole proponent for the ’03 Iraq invasion. It wasn’t powerful enough.

    Who were the others? The decisive ones? The ones you never mention?

    Too much time on childhood Merry-Go-Rounds?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  505. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    “….a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition…”

    True, and this is an observable constant in the natural sciences (geology, biology, horticulture, medicine, etc.).

  506. Incitatus says:
    @L.K

    L.K,

    Happy to report long-awaited progress in species classification. Sure, you’re a tetrapod. But a hybred offspring of a like specimen mated to a female “from Veneto and Piedmont”? It’s long puzzled biologists. “Ah, Bella Italia!”

    At last they can be more exact. Genus Reptilian (Reptiloide, Reptile Humanoïde, Hommes-Lézards).

    Visual evidence:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians#/media/File:Reptilian.svg

    You’re on the left. Caution. One might easily conclude apparent lack of genitalia. Grave mistake. It is, in fact, positioned where all who know you would logically predict – your head.

    Reptilian size depends solely on fatuous self-importance, as blowfish imbibe air or water. Most have trouble remaining long inflated and collapse like whining, spent balloons. Nazi slogans and insults commonly spew forth during this process. More revealing emanations like “my ethnicities, Germans and Italians, have accomplished more than armenians could ever dream to” are rare but not unknown.

    Lest you feel unappreciated, experts now agree:

    “Reptilian humanoids play a prominent role in fantasy, science fiction, ufology and conspiracy theories.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians

    Well, we already knew that, didn’t we?

    No need to thank me, L.K. Best to the Bund.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @L.K
  507. MEexpert says:

    More than 90% of comments have nothing to do with the topic at hand. I guess Dr. Giraldi likes to have large number of comments to show how popular he his. Personally, I think he should be above that cheap fame.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @iffen
    , @L.K
  508. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    “We know the enemy, we have called him by name for the last twenty years: he is the World Jew. And we know that the Jew must die.”

    –Julius Streicher, ‘Der Stürmer’ editor, Nüremberg

    You: Sounds just like you, Art. .

    You tell more Jew lies.

    I have never ever ever asked for one drop blood from anyone – Jew or otherwise. Remember I ask for peace. How stupid of you, I am not going to bodily harm you or steal your property. (However, I may demand you pay reparations to the Palestinians?)

    I ask to ostracize, to isolate, to avoid contact with Jews – not harm them. Avoiding Jews is moral, freeing, and wise.

    We must commune with those who are “America for America” people – not “America for Israel” people. We must not vote for those who succumb to the Lobby. We must do business with those who support America for America.

    I am a philosophical Christian who supports life – not a Jew chaos creator who sucks the virtuous life out of others. You parasitic bottom feeding Jews, suck the good life out of other cultures – then leave.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. You Jews need to realize that peaceful people like me do NOT run the world.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Incitatus
  509. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    At last they can be more exact. Genus Reptilian (Reptiloide, Reptile Humanoïde, Hommes-Lézards).

    Hmm – I see that the lower reaches of your brain are functioning today. (Better luck tomorrow.)

    Think Peace — Art

  510. Sam J. says:
    @MEexpert

    “…More than 90% of comments have nothing to do with the topic at hand…”

    Say,”Thanks Hasbara” for derailing all points constantly. We of course answer their dissembling. It’s hardy Dr. Giraldi’s fault that paid saboteurs stalk him.

    This is of course another Jew technique. Start lots of rumors to discredit someone then their Jew accomplices make much furor over the rumors made by themselves to discredit the subject. Quite frequently happens.

    Answering these people is important. In this thread alone you’ve seen a great deal of the tactics used to derail and confuse issues. Just reading this one thread is a lesson in this type of sabotage. What’s frightening is this is going on nonstop all over most media on multiple fronts and people have heard these “pronouncements” and distortions all of their lives. It’s difficult to break your mind free from this kind of long and incessant propaganda.

    Part of the Jews problem is that a lot of it is just stupid magic tricks and the internet is providing the answer to how they do it. Have you ever seen one of those shows where they show some super magic trick and then show you how it’s done? It’s a bit of a let down usually. Magic depends a lot on distraction, moving the attention another direction and repeating assertions so you will not look beyond what they tell you. Once you get used to looking at what the Jew say in this mental framework they become, just like the showing of the magic trick, much less impressive.

    We don’t want to think about people in a negative manner but it’s usually quite productive if you just assume every thing a Jew says is some kind of misdirection, dissembling or and outright lie. If you think this way more times than not you will be correct.

  511. Sam J. says:
    @Incitatus

    Of course you don’t like Art’s “prose” because he talks about the “problem”, the Jews, and how this effects Syria being destroyed instead of medieval monks or fracking or whatever other silly “task” the Jews want to confuse the issue with.

  512. iffen says:
    @MEexpert

    More than 90% of comments have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

    The JQ is the topic at hand, as it is every week, and most commenters adher to the subject.
    Although, I add that it takes a good imagination to see the connection sometimes.

  513. iffen says:
    @Art

    p.s. You Jews need to realize that peaceful people like me do NOT run the world.

    I denounce Satan, there is a God after all.

  514. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    I couldn’t find this:

    In other words, without it, the invasion would not have taken place.

    I did find this:

    Rather, the war was due in large part to the Lobby’s influence, especially the neoconservatives within it.

    due in large part

  515. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    “We know the enemy, we have called him by name for the last twenty years: he is the World Jew. And we know that the Jew must die.”-Julius Streicher

    Sounds just like you, Art.

    “You tell more Jew lies.”

    Weasel. You completely agree with his assessment, don’t you? “We have called him [the enemy] by name for the last twenty years: he is the World Jew.” Caught, now you quibble about ‘remedies’?

    “Remember I ask for peace”

    Only after inciting violence. Let others do it. Streicher played the same game.

    When you demonize any group uniformly and persistently, you invite violence. Jews, Blacks, Native Americans, Irish, Italians – you name it. You’re a garden-variety race-baiter. Nothing more.

    You claim the high road. But your language is oft identical with Streichers. Was he a “philosophical Christian” too? Most Nazis called themselves good Christians. Raping country after country was their idea of God’s work. Caught letting rivers of blood, they probably sputtered “Remember I ask for peace.”

    “I am a philosophical Christian who supports life – not a Jew chaos creator who sucks the virtuous life out of others.”

    You’re no Christian. You don’t support life. Nine tenths of everything you write is inflammatory or innuendo. A drunk preaching temperance. Jews this, Jews that, Jews, Jews, Jews. Your ‘philosophy’ is incontinent spleen venting on projected enemies to feed your spite. Moral masturbation. Table leg polishing.

    “We must commune with those who are “America for America” people”

    Define American. Is it inciting discrimination and group-think against whole peoples? You decide who? Just as Streicher and company decided who was German? Who can “commune” with each other? Who can find employment? Who can speak? Who can bear arms? Who can vote? Who has legal rights? Who can marry?

    When discrimination leads to hate, and hate to violence what will you say? “I have never ever ever asked for one drop blood from anyone”? Weasel. Hypocrite. Read your own tripe.

    “You parasitic bottom feeding Jews, suck the good life out of other cultures – then leave.”

    I’m not Jewish. No affection for Israel. Read my archive. I’ve criticized ‘the Lobby’ and Israel. I just don’t like frauds who wrap themselves in the flag or religion to sell race-states or Nazism. Simple as that.

    You throw any dissenter into your mental cesspool. A sewer of calumny you pick like an open sore.

    “You Jews need to realize that peaceful people like me do NOT run the world”

    Advice from your mentor. He was peaceful too:

    “I was all for setting up a separate Jewish state in Madagascar or Palestine or someplace, but not to exterminate them. Besides, by exterminating 4 million Jews – they say 5 or 6 million at this trial, but that is all propaganda, I am sure it wasn’t more than 4.5 million – they have made martyrs out of those Jews.”
    –Julius Streicher 6 Apr 1946 Nüremberg

    Americans hung that moral vagabond.

    • Replies: @Art
  516. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Who were the others? The decisive ones? The ones you never mention?

    You got me, Incy. I have no choice but to confess under the strain of your relentless interrogation.

    The two truth-telling professors did indeed acknowledge another key factor in the invasion of Iraq:

    In Chapter 8 (“Iraq and Dreams of Transforming the Middle East”), we show how the lobby—and especially the neoconservatives within it—was the principal driving force behind the Bush administration’s decision to invade Iraq in 2003. We emphasize that the lobby did not cause the war by itself. The September 11 attacks had a profound impact on the Bush admin­istration’s foreign policy and the decision to topple Saddam Hussein. But absent the lobby’s influence, there almost certainly would not have been a war. The lobby was a necessary but not sufficient condition for a war that is a strategic disaster for the United States and a boon for Iran, Israel’s most serious regional adversary.

    So, according to the good professors, 9/11 was the other major condition for the attack. And we all know the Israelis had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, don’t we, Incy?

    P.S. The bolded words are for the benefit of our resident PEAbrain.

    P.P.S. What do you make of their phrase “the neoconservatives within it—was the principal driving force” kind of sends shivers down your spine, doesn’t it, Incy?

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Incitatus
  517. iffen says:

    P.S. The bolded words are for the benefit of our resident PEAbrain.

    That wording is not in the version that I was reading. I forgot that there are three versions.

    Is “almost certainly” a stonger accusation than “in large part”?

  518. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    And we all know the Israelis had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, don’t we, Incy?

    Jews did 9/11.

    How about WW2?

    WW1?

    The War Between the States?

  519. L.K says:
    @MEexpert

    What a stupid thing to suggest about Mr. Giraldi.

    The comment sections @ the Unz webzine, with a couple of exceptions(Karlin and some other dude), are largely not moderated…

    With this comes the good and the bad.

    Make the best of it, instead of complaining, do your share & offer others good links, info, etc…

  520. L.K says:
    @Incitatus

    Yawnnn… you are almost as good a sleeping pill as your boyfriend, the Sham…

    1, 2, 3, 4….zzzZZZZZ

    Somebody may have told ya you are amusing, but trust me ole girl, you ain’t… you are just plain old boring…

  521. geokat62 says:

    Jews did 9/11.

    Here are the facts surrounding Israel’s 9/11-related activities:

    It brings home, visually, the significance of the following bit of dialogue – cited by Shea* – between Brit Hume and Cameron at the conclusion of their first broadcast on the Israeli spy operation:

    Hume: “What about this question of advanced knowledge of what was going to happen on September 11? How clear are investigators that some Israeli agents may have known something?”

    Cameron: “It’s very explosive information, obviously, and there’s a great deal of evidence that they say they have collected, none of it necessarily conclusive. It’s more when they put it all together. A bigger question, they say, is how could they not have known?”

    http://www.antiwar.com/rep2/MemorandumtotheCommissionandSelectCommitteesbold.pdf

    *Gerald Shea, an international corporate lawyer, prepared a memorandum that documents the 9/11-related activities of the Israelis. He submitted it to the 9/11 Commission back on September 15, 2004. In it, he pleads for a public inquiry on the basis of “Israeli Surveillance of the Future Hijackers and FBI Suspects in the September 11 Attacks and Their Failure to Give Us Adequate Warning.”

    Here’s the intro:

    I am an international corporate lawyer, writing to you today about a matter of public policy that is relevant to the circumstances surrounding, and our preparedness for, the catastrophic attacks on September 11, 2001. I do not know whether the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks (the “Commission”) or the Senate and House Committees on Intelligence (the “Committees”) have had the opportunity to consider these issues carefully. If so, I hope this memorandum will be helpful. If not, I respectfully urge them, in accordance with the mandate of the Commission’s charter and in the exercise of the Committees’ responsibilities, to investigate the facts and resolve the questions presented.

    Here’s the Detailed Summary:

    [MORE]

    Set forth below is a detailed summary of the tentative conclusions reached in this memorandum, which amply illustrate the urgent need for a public inquiry into the activities of the Israeli DEA Groups and the Israeli New Jersey Group. The inquiry must include, without limitation, the examination of members of the Israel Groups and related persons; officials of the Israeli government and certain of its agencies, including Mossad; FBI suspects, agents of the DEA, the INS and the FBI; certain local law enforcement officials; agents of the CIA (in camera to the extent required); other intelligence sources cited by the public press to the extent possible; the boxes of documents and computer hard drives (referred on page 29) seized by the FBI from the Israeli New Jersey Group; and of all other relevant documents, reports, communiqués and information.–

    1. The Israeli DEA Groups were spying on the Drug
    Enforcement Agency and thus upon the United
    States. The DEA itself has concluded that they
    were probably engaged in organized intelligence
    gathering on our soil.

    2. A highly regarded American journal knowledgeable
    about Israeli affairs, has concluded (a) based on
    its own sources, that the Israeli DEA Groups were
    spying on radical Islamic networks suspected of
    links to Middle East terrorism, and (b) based on
    the representations of a former American
    intelligence official regularly briefed on these
    matters by law enforcement officials, that (i) at
    least two members of the Israeli New Jersey Group
    were Mossad operatives, (ii) Urban Moving, the
    company used by the Israeli New Jersey Group, was
    a front for Mossad and its operatives, and (iii)
    the Israeli New Jersey Group was spying on local
    Arabs.

    3. The intelligence sources of a substantial
    American television network report that the
    Israeli DEA Groups may have gathered information
    about the September 11 attacks in advance, and
    not shared it with the United States. One
    investigator said that evidence linking the
    Israeli DEA Groups to such intelligence gathering
    was classified and could not be disclosed.

    4. The Israeli DEA Groups were comprised of 125 or
    more Israelis operating on our soil. Their
    leaders and apparent associates included military
    commanders and experts with military backgrounds
    in intelligence, electronic intercepts and
    telecommunications.

    5. The wiretapping and intelligence expertise of
    members of both Israeli Groups, and the use of
    vans in local neighborhoods where the future
    hijackers were planning the attacks, and the
    extensive use by the hijackers of cell phones and
    land lines, made the Israeli Groups ideally
    suited to gather information regarding the
    hijackers’ plans.

    6. The principal operation of the Israeli DEA Groups
    was located in and around Hollywood, Florida, the
    central training and staging ground for the
    hijacking of North and South Tower Planes and the
    Pennsylvania Plane. The addresses and places of
    residence of the members of the Israeli DEA
    Groups in Hollywood itself were within hundreds
    of yards those of the future hijackers.

    7. The operations of both the Israeli New Jersey
    Group and the hijackers of the Pentagon Plane
    were centered in Hudson and Bergen Counties in
    New Jersey, within a common radius of about
    six miles.

    8. All five celebrating members of the Israeli New
    Jersey Group arrested on September 11 were aware,
    when the North Tower Plane struck the World Trade
    Center, based on their immediate reaction to the
    attack and the information said to be contained
    in their van, that the attack had been planned
    and carried out by Arab terrorists.

    9. After being questioned by the FBI on September
    11, the leader of the Israeli New Jersey Group
    immediately fled the United States to Israel.
    His name and aliases appear, along with those of
    the hijackers and other FBI suspects, on the May
    2002 FBI Suspect list.

    10. Israeli intelligence officials have reported that
    two senior officials of Mossad warned the United
    States in August 2001 that as many as 200
    terrorists on American soil were planning an
    imminent large-scale attack on high visibility
    targets on the American mainland. One press
    report states that in August Mossad provided the
    CIA with the names of future hijackers Khaled al
    Mihdhar and Nawaf al Hazmi.

    11. The CIA’s explanation of how Mihdhar’s and
    Hazmi’s names were placed on the Watchlist
    through the spontaneous efforts of CIA and FBI
    agents is not only difficult to follow but, as
    the sole reason for the Watchlisting, hardly
    credible.

    12. Mossad’s own information appears to have come
    from its sources inside the United States. All
    of the facts and circumstances set forth in this
    memorandum appear to show that Mossad’s two
    likely sources of information were: (a) the
    Israeli DEA Groups, comparable in number to that
    of the Arab suspects and who appear to have
    tracked the future hijackers in their central
    places of operation and in other states, and (b)
    the Israeli New Jersey Group, operating through
    their Mossad front in another principal locus of
    operations of the future hijackers, two of whom
    were Mossad agents, and five of whom appeared
    immediately aware of the origin of the attacks on
    September 11.

    13. While little direct evidence supports the
    contention that the CIA was aware of or condoned
    the Israeli Groups’ tracking of Arab terrorist
    groups in the United States prior to September
    11, the CIA’s pressing for the expulsion of
    members of the Israeli DEA Groups when they were
    detained before September 11, their failure to
    cooperate with the FBI, their circuitous
    explanation of how the above two hijackers were
    placed on the Watchlist, and other relevant
    considerations require that the issue be taken up
    as a part of the public inquiry into these
    painful events.

    http://www.antiwar.com/rep2/MemorandumtotheCommissionandSelectCommitteesbold.pdf

  522. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Weasel. You completely agree with his assessment, don’t you? “We have called him [the enemy] by name for the last twenty years: he is the World Jew.” Caught, now you quibble about ‘remedies’?

    What mumbo jumbo — I do not have a glue as to what you are trying to say?????? I do not even know who Streicher is. If Streicher was a Nazi German, then my family suffered grievously because of him. I hate fascism, Jew or German.

    When you demonize any group uniformly and persistently, you invite violence. Jews, Blacks, Native Americans, Irish, Italians – you name it. You’re a garden-variety race-baiter. Nothing more.

    You are projecting yourself onto me. I believe that you Jews think that you have violence coming to you. You are projecting your hate for others, and your wish for violence on them. Look at Israeli culture and you will see a real invite to violence against hundreds of millions of people.

    I’m not Jewish. No affection for Israel.

    I find it hard to believe that you know some much about Jews, but know little of their destruction of America. Whatever the case, Jew not-Jew you are a fool. You are on the wrong side of history, defending the indefensible. You are a pseudo-intellectual with no real wisdom. You cannot see who is really behind the great violence of our time.

    Think Peace — Art

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  523. geokat62 says:
    @Art

    You cannot see who is really behind the great violence of our time.

    So true, Art. But I’ll tell you what they won’t publicly admit… that this is the logic from the other side:

    We are justified in killing millions of innocents in these pre-emptive attacks as their leaders (Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, etc) were conspiring with the “terrorists” (Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc,) to do us harm. We have every right to protect our people by any means necessary.

    This is the fundamental truth that they will never admit to, as it explains why they support The Lobby by automatically sending in their monthly contributions.

    How the policy of pre-emptive attacks aligns with US values is beyond me. I recall growing up watching Western movies in which the protagonist (wearing a white hat) invariably faced-off against the antagonist (wearing a black hat) in a shootout. The good guy would NEVER draw his gun before the BAD guy did, let alone shoot him in the back in the dark while he wasn’t looking. That type of behaviour would have been simply frowned upon, if he did so. That’s because the idea of pre-emption was antithetical to American values.

    But this fundamental American value was somehow set aside when The Lobby pushed the Bush administration to launch a pre-emptive attack against Iraq, pushed the Obama administration (via NATO) to do the same against Libya, and, unwilling to use the front-door approach, pushed for the launch of a proxy attack against Syria. They did this by tricking the American people into believing that the so-called Global War On Terrorism was launched to enhance their security by defeating terrorism when it is crystal clear that it actually made them less safe as the removal of these autocratic regimes (that were aiding the Palestinians in their struggle against the brutal occupation) actually increased terrorism since the terrorists (al-Qaeda, ISIS, al-Nusra, etc.) were the ones that actually filled the vacuums that were created when these regimes were deposed by the US military and its proxies.

    So, they indeed “see who is really behind the great violence of our time” …. but they will never admit to it because it is ultimately those who automatically send in their contributions to The Lobby that ultimately support this violence.

    Just ask Brother Nathanael… he’ll confirm whether I’m telling the truth.

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    , @Art
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  524. Robjil says:

    There is a new book out that is like “The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed. The book is “From Yahweh to Zion” by Laurent Guyenot. The book is a mandatory read to understand the biggest, most dangerous problem of our time. Climate Change is peanuts compared it. The author is interviewed in the video. He gives lots of gems of insight. One of them is that the “Seven nations to be destroyed concept” comes from the OT : Deut. 7:1. After 911, Wesley Clark heard from the Pentagon the plan of Seven nations that must be destroyed. There is a Seven nations ban lately in the rounds. It is a genocidal idea from the OT.

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  525. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    he’ll confirm whether I’m telling the truth.

    Some people just insist on hogging all of the truth-tellers, leaving none for the other side. Seems like something is wrong with that.

  526. Art says:
    @geokat62

    Jews: We have every right to protect our people by any means necessary.

    geokat62,

    Our response must be – go for it Jews – YOU fight, YOU protect — leave America out of it – PERIOD!

    Jews do not have the right to coerce our political system into fighting their wars.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. How many laws do the Jews have against Palestinians protecting themselves?

    p.s. The Jew is an onerous burden for all of humanity.

  527. Robjil says:

    This destruction of Syria is based on Deut: 7.1/ When Jehovah your God at last brings into the land to which you are going so as to take possession of it, he must also clear away populous nations from before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations more populous and mighty than you are.
    After 911, Wesley Clark said that the Pentagon wanted to destroy seven nations. Why seven? The reason why – Deut. 7.1.
    Here is quote from From Yahweh to Zion by Laurent Guyonet. page 491
    “If Israel seems bewitched by a sociopathic destiny, is it not the fault of its evil genius Yahweh? Does not the Zionist manipulation go back to the creation by the ancient Levites of this particularly xenophobic tribal egregore that has usurped the title of the “Creator of the Universe” and “Father of Humantiy” ?
    P.492
    Only when the biblical Yahweh is correctly diagnosed and publicly exposed as a sociopathic myth will the Jews have a chance to collectively break away from his pyschopathic bond, renounce the curse of being the chosen people, and learn to empathize with the rest of humankind.

  528. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    I’ve never denied that Jews in this country have a special identification with Israel.

    Here’s what you stated previously:

    The “community” does what most ordinary people do. Work, raise families, vacation in FL, watch the debates etc. Repeat sequence.

    Also most of them really don’t obsess over Israel.

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-war-against-the-world/#comment-1400275

    Perhaps you could help reconcile these two statements?