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It may have been President Bill Clinton who once justified his wrecking of the Balkans by observing that liberal interventionism to bring about regime change is a good thing because “Democracies don’t start wars with other democracies.” Or it might have been George W. Bush talking about Iraq or even Barack Obama justifying his destruction of Libya or his interventions relating to Syria and Ukraine. The principle is the same when the world’s only superpower decides to throw its weight around.
The idea that pluralistic democracies are somehow less inclined to go to war has in fact been around for a couple of hundred years and was first elaborated by Immanuel Kant in an essay entitled “Perpetual Peace” that was published in 1795. Kant may have been engaging in some tongue in cheek as the French relatively liberal republic, the “Directory,” was at that time preparing to invade Italy to spread the revolution. The presumption that “democracies” are somehow more pacific than other forms of government is based on the principle that it is in theory more difficult to convince an entire nation of the desirability of initiating armed conflict compared to what happens in a monarchy where only one man or woman has to be persuaded.
The American Revolution, which preceded Kant, was clearly not fought on the principle that kings are prone to start wars while republics are not, and, indeed, the “republican” United States has nearly always been engaged in what most observers would consider to be wars throughout its history. And a review of the history of the European wars of the past two hundred years suggests that it is also overly simple to suggest that democracies eschew fighting each other. There are, after all, many different kinds of governments, most with constitutions, many of which are quite politically liberal even if they are headed by a monarch or oligarchy. They have found themselves on different sides in the conflicts that have troubled Europe since the time of Napoleon.
And wars are often popular, witness the lines of enthusiastic young men lining up to enlist when the Triple Entente took on the Germans and Austrians to begin the First World War. So, war might be less likely among established democracies, but it should be conceded that the same national interests that drive a dictatorship can equally impact on a more pluralistic form of government, particularly if the media “the territory of lies” is in on the game. One recalls how the Hearst newspaper chain created the false narrative that resulted in the U.S.’s first great overseas imperial venture, the Spanish-American War. More recently, the mainstream media in the United States has supported the disastrous invasion of Iraq, the destabilization of Syria, and the regime change in Ukraine, Afghanistan and Libya.
So now we Americans have the ultimate liberal democratic regime about to resume power, possibly with a majority in both houses of Congress to back up the presidency. But something is missing in that the campaigning Democrats never talked about a peace dividend, and now that they are returning the airwaves are notable for Senators like Mark Warner asking if the alleged Russian hacking of U.S. computers is an “act of war?” Senator Dick Durbin has no doubts on the issue, having declared it “virtually a declaration of war.” And Joe Biden appears to be on board, considering punishment for Moscow. Are we about to experience Russiagate all over? In fact, belligerency is not unique to Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo. War is in the air, and large majority of the Democratic Party recently voted for the pork-bloated National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), endorsing a policy of U.S. global military dominance for the foreseeable future. If you are an American who would like to see national health insurance, a large majority among Democrats, forget about it!
But more to the point, the Democrats have a worse track record than do the Republicans when it comes to starting unnecessary wars. Donald Trump made the point of denouncing “stupid wars” when he was running for office and has returned to that theme also in the past several weeks, though he did little enough to practice what he preached until it was too late and too little. Clinton notoriously intervened in the Balkans and bombed a pharmaceuticals factory in Sudan and a cluster of tents in Afghanistan to draw attention away from his affair with Monica Lewinsky. His secretary of State Madeleine Albright thought the death of 500,000 Iraqi children due to U.S. sanctions was “worth it.” Barack Obama tried to destroy Syria, interfered in Ukraine and succeeded in turning Libya into an ungovernable mess while compiling a “kill list” and assassinating U.S. citizens overseas using drones.
If you want to go back farther, Woodrow Wilson involved the U.S. in World War One while Franklin D. Roosevelt connived at America’s entry into the Second World War. FDR’s successor Harry Truman dropped two atomic bombs on civilian targets in Japan, killing as many as 200,000. Japan was preparing to surrender, which was known to the White House and Pentagon, making the first use of nuclear weapons completely unnecessary and one might call it a “war crime.” Truman also got involved in Korea and John F. Kennedy started the intervention in Vietnam, though there are indications that he was planning to withdraw from it when he was killed. The only Democratic president who failed to start one or more wars was the much-denigrated Jimmy Carter.
So, it is Joe Biden’s turn at the wheel. One has to question the philosophy of government that he brings with him as he has never found a war that he didn’t support and several of his cabinet choices are undeniably hardliners on what they refer to as national security. The lobbies are also putting pressure on Biden to do the “right thing,” which for them is to continue an interventionist foreign policy. The Israeli connected Foundation for the Defense Democracies (FDD) has not surprisingly issued a collection of essays that carries the title “Defending Forward: Securing America by Projecting Military Power Abroad.” If one had to bet at this point “defending forward” will be what the Biden Administration is all about. And oh, by the way, as democracies don’t go to war with democracies, it will only be the designated bad guys who will be on the receiving end of America’s military might. Or at least that is how the tale will be told.
Philip Giraldi, Ph.D. is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.
Jimmy Carter actually got us involved in Afghanistan and the Mujahideen. This later got us blowback in the form of Al-Qaeda.
Donald Trump lost the election, Phil.
The foreign adventures under President Harris will only be for the purpose of extracting graft money for the Pentagon with distribution to all of our other little government friends. Most understand that the “woke” military can’t win a real war any longer.
The powers that be may be convinced they can win through technology. Good luck with that. Our mighty carrier fleets only roam the oceans now by approval of the Russians and probably the Chinese. The proliferation of missile and drone technology makes many of our bases around the globe nothing but vulnerable assets that will be difficult to defend.
The important thing though is the we promote as many incapable people as possible to the highest ranks in the Woke Military. At least no one will call us racist or homophobic or whatever other phobic we might other wise be labeled.
The style of government matters very little. All gov’ts want to control and plunder their populations and plunder their neighbors as well. Modern gov’ts are just an updated version of their raping and pillaging gangs from centuries ago that established the first governments.
Communism, Marxism, democracy, dictatorship, etc are all just words that try to find some minor difference between the thugs and sociopaths that run things world wide. They hire the dregs of the society as the military and produce the PR programs that get the utterly stupid to thank them for their service. Gov’t then defines new words like taxation to try to distance themselves from the obvious word which would be theft. They pass laws that everyone is supposed to obey but exempt themselves from its consequences. And yet, people keep voting and arguing over which band of murderers and thieves should be crowned the overlords.
You can’t fix stupid.
So do Republicans.
Neither of the political parties is worthy of existence, but that does not give them pause.
They are supported by people who know nothing and believe anything.
The article notes “Harry Truman dropped two atomic bombs on civilian targets in Japan, killing as many as 200,000.” What’s largely forgotten is that the US Army Air Forces had been bombing Japan with conventional munitions for quite some time. The 58th Bombardment Wing (Very Heavy), a B-29 unit, first began bombing operations from China; however, bringing bombs, fuel and other supplies by airlift over the Hump from India limited operations, so the wing moved to the Mariana Islands where it continued operations with newer arrivals, the 73d, 313th, 314th and 325th BWs. Each wing had four bomb groups and each group had three bomb squadrons. These five groups were part of the 20th Air Force that ravaged Japan from one end to the other. Bombing from the Marianas (Saipan, Tinian and Guam) started in the fall of 1944 and continued through the end of the war. Most people overlook that more people were killed in the night fire raid on Tokyo on March 9, 1945, than in the atomic bombings.
The US was already incinerating massive numbers of civilians, but it took a lot more planes and bombs and put more aircrewmen at risk.
Why were Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombed? Because they’d been largely spared from early bombings, having no military value, and planners needed “fresh material” to see the extent of atomic bombing on a city.
Also unknown to most is that the atomic bombing didn’t mean the conventional bombing stopped. Instead, it continued, and in fact the largest air raid of the Pacific war, putting over 1,000 aircraft in the air, took place after the atomic bombings and included planes from multiple commands. Everyone knew the war was just about over and, in fact, it had been declared over by the time the planes returned to their airfields.
By this point Japan was out of fuel for its remaining aircraft, so US aircraft roamed its skies with impunity. Gunners and their guns were taken off of the B-29s since they were no longer needed, and this allowed the planes to carry more fuel and munitions.
I suspect one of the reasons for this raid was that the commanders in the Pacific knew they would be competing for future commands and promotion with their counterparts in the recently-ended war in Europe, where numerous multi-thousand plane raids had taken place in the final phase of the fighting there. With Japan on its knees, there really wasn’t a good reason for the killing to continue until the last available minute.
Agreed…I would only change the word approval to tolerance. This will probably not last much longer in the face of truculent hegemony on the part of the US. Most Americans will be horrified to see 5,000…or more… military personnel sent to Davy Jones’ Locker.
If people would just stop voting then on some grand and glorious day, a president would be (S)elected by a few thousand vote from the political party members. What a mandate that would be.
If voting would start to really die off, they would make it mandatory to make sure the theater of the absurd continues and the dolts would applaud this to make sure the bullshit known as democracy continues apace.
There’s no hope when the majority of the entire world is as dumb as a stump.
Uh, I thought it was the Jews who make this government blow shit up and torture wogs but OK, sure.
Anyway, thanks for the update on CIA’s senile puppet ruler!
So will Biden’s Jew ventriloquist be Cohen? or Blocker,
https://www.jta.org/2020/12/09/politics/darrell-blocker-who-could-lead-bidens-cia-is-a-black-jew-known-as-a-spy-whisperer
the Sammy Davis Junior of simulated live burial?
I appreciate Mr. Giraldi’s writings, that are both profound and enlightening, in my opinion.
Since when were we a democracy, anyhow? Basically every major policy decision – on shipping our industries to communist china, using third world immigration to force population growth, spending tens of trillions of dollars bailing out wall street, etc.etc., has been against the wishes of the public at large.
“Democracy” is a con to privatize power and socialize responsiblity.
“the Sammy Davis Junior of simulated live burial?”
I read that same JTA article and immediately thought, “A pseudo-jewish oreo cookie?”.
A most unappetizing prospect, indeed……….
“people keep voting and arguing over which band of murderers and thieves should be crowned the overlords. You can’t fix stupid.”
“Governments don’t want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear.”~ George Carlin
“There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism – by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.” Ayn Rand
“The State is a gang of thieves writ large – the most immoral, grasping and unscrupulous individuals in any society.” Murray Rothbard
Regards, onebornfree
Tocqueville wrote that two things would be hard for democracies to do–starting a war, and ending one.
The question boils down to whether economic collapse as a result of failed policies and the medico-fascism policies which helped the democrats get close enough to be able to effect a victory via fraud (that they didn’t actually win is pretty much shown by clear and convincing evidence) will determine whether we survive. Paradoxically, the greater the extent of the collapse, the better chance we have of surviving. To those who simply claim Biden won, I point out that the courts hid behind procedural bullshit to avoid examining this evidence. I agree with those that indicate that political correctness will benefit the foes of the yankee imperium, since its fighting ability will diminish if perverts and incompetents put in based on their skin color or whether they are female manage the war. The corruption level is also increasing and far greater than that suffered by opposing forces. Since it will take a length of time to seize more complete control of the regime, the Russian and Chinese advantages will increase, and prospects for the future do not look too bright.
The US is a fake democracy, governed by engineered consent, massive propaganda apparatus and outright coercion when the other options don’t work well enough. Wilson persecuted and jailed anti-war activists and used the government to force compliance with his entry into the war which wasn’t very popular. As pointed out, the US has been pretty much on the move militarily throughout. The average person desires peace which is why every US president that schemed to take the country into war lied and posed as the peace candidate; Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Bush, etc. It’s part of the duplicity of a fake democracy: promise one thing but deliver something else. Before they can be elected they’ve been selected.
Someone like Durbin ratchets up war incitement rhetoric about the supposed Russian cyber hack yet didn’t the US attack Iran with one? They’ll go on and on about a single dead career criminal like Floyd yet cause hundreds of thousands to die overseas. Out of sight, out of mind; it’s just a video game anyway, nobody cares about dead Ay-rabs, not when we have St Floyd to agonize over. US democracy is like a farm where the cattle are told that their opinion matters.
I would like to suggest that if Biden does manage to take the oath of office come January that any new wars started by his corrupt regime only be fought by those that voted for him and his ho of a VP.
Since whites are racist and Trumpers are deplorables I think it behooves us to allow POCs, feminists, trans-people, lesbians, gays, and all the rest of the assorted carnival freaks to go to the front of the line in fighting these new wars.
How about it Supply and Demand, willing to join the military and go off to fight and die for your much beloved Joe and Kamala regime change psychopaths?
Trump’s ‘loss’ of the 2020 election is still not official. Allegations of widespread voter fraud have merit. Yet despite mounting evidence, a rigorous examination (and national debate) over what may have occurred in numerous swing states is being suppressed.
Here’s a very powerful examination of how the 2020 election may have stolen by ‘liberal’ operatives with the help on one at least one well-known billionaire. Recommended:
‘…the airwaves are notable for Senators like Mark Warner asking if the alleged Russian hacking of U.S. computers is an “act of war?” Senator Dick Durbin has no doubts on the issue, having declared it “virtually a declaration of war.”…’
By this yardstick…
When are we nuking Israel?
‘…Japan was preparing to surrender, which was known to the White House and Pentagon, making the first use of nuclear weapons completely unnecessary…’
I’m afraid that’s a gross exaggeration. Factions in Japan had recognized the obvious, but found themselves incapable of acting. It was a quandary…
Then we dropped the bombs. That broke the ice, so to speak. Good thing, when all was said and done.
CIA cowards blowing up 6th graders from their hidey-holes:
https://theintercept.com/2020/12/18/afghanistan-cia-militia-01-strike-force/
01 and 02 murders are either:
01. Internationally wrongful acts in breach of jus cogens entailing erga omnes responsibility to stop, investigate and prosecute CIA suspects and assess restitution, reparations, compensation with interest and satisfaction;
or
02. Serious crimes under CTOC invoking international legal assistance.
Title 50 doesn’t get CIA out of this bind because CTOC exempts only sovereign actions in conformity with the UN Charter, and state responsibility covers ultra vires actions. So it’s individual legal exposure to serious crime if the US denies it, or an open-and-shut ICJ case if the US acknowledges it. If the US rejects both possibilities, the ICC or foreign courts can step in under the complementarity principle.
You’ll know which way they’re going to go when you see who the DCI is. If it’s the Zionazi Übermensch Cohen, the government will shield him and take its chances with state responsibility (and pay through the nose.) If it’s the disposable Schwartze Blocker, CIA retains the option to sacrifice his black ass as just one of those bad apples, and buy time for its increasingly untenable evasion of command responsibility. Because the SCO don’t have to take your shit anymore. They’ll decapitate you sleeves and we will strew flowers and sweets.
” “Democracies don’t start wars with other democracies.”
Who can argue against a stupid claim made by 3 most aggressive warmingering countries – USA,UK,and Israel?
All three work with most despicable notorious dictators – Saudi, UAE,and Egypt. So when you are supoorting and propping dictators ,you are essentially destroying chances of democracy . Israel was the country that provided this sound bite taking the cues from Bush Cheney and Rumsfield . Very soon Israel woukd attack democratically elected Gaza and attack Lebanon. It woukd kill democratically elected leaders and citizens of democratic countries . Egypt’s Morsi was the victim of Israel and American machination.
America has caused coups in Hondurus,tried in Venezuala and Bolivia. One can claim so that US can wage wars .
Meanwhike money and kickbacks have driven American policies which enrich political class of Israel ,deprives the disenfranchised and corrupts other democracies as Sudan and Indonesia are finding out
That lie “Democracies don’t start wars with other democracies.”has caused more wars and destroyed more democracies than any other lie would ever or has.
‘…Why were Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombed? Because they’d been largely spared from early bombings, having no military value, and planners needed “fresh material” to see the extent of atomic bombing on a city…’
Hiroshima was the primary port for military traffic to and from China. In response to the American conventional bombing campaign, much of the civilian population had been evacuated.
As a result, about twenty percent of the people present in city when it was nuked were military personnel.
I don’t know about Nagasaki, but Hiroshima obviously had considerable military value.
Trump gave us four years of relative peace. Clinton, Kane, and the nut job harpies advising her, would have had us in Syria directly confronting Russia because Assad bad. Trump winning in 16 was pure goodness. Anything he did after dispatching the hag was just gravy.
Shittin’ upside down again, Bill? You fixed our stupid by leaving the U.S.
As your presence now amounts only to verbal diarrhea, the shithole here is tolerable.
“any new wars started by his corrupt regime only be fought by those that voted for him”
Dead people and Dominion voting machines cannot fight wars friend.
Although article gives me feeling of being not finished, still it is brilliant.
Why the so-called “Left” (N. Chomsky and his ilk) can’t see this? They are praying for war criminal Biden.
He also unleashed the CIA on Nicaragua.
I wouldn’t call most of the military the dregs of society. Sir. Most of those dregs are prolly far better people than you’d ever be willing to admit.
They got caught up in a huge shit show. Don’t go blaming 18, 19, 20 year old young men trying to helpthemselves in an impossible situation.
You’re not being fair, sir.
More nonsense from one of Unz’s “star” pets. It’s repetitive but again the very accurate sports betting odds/statistics site, 538.com, crunched all the final polls on Nov. 2, finding a 7% popular vote edge for Joe Depends. They then subtracted the 3% popular vote error from the 2016 election caused by shy Diaper Don voters lying to the pollsters. 7% – 3% = 4% popular vote margin to Joe Depends. The actual popular vote margin turned out to be 4.3%. How much closer could the prediction have been without an actual working crystal ball? The real fraud was in the exclusion of the Green Party from the ballot in over 20 states as the greenies were blamed for the murderous incontinent old crone’s 2016 defeat. Greenies received 1.5 million popular votes in the 2016 election, but only 390,000 in 2020. If the dummie R’s had made sure Howie the Greenie was on the ballot in all 50 states, they might have scraped by in the electoral college while losing the popular vote again. The Rs are widely referred to as the stupid party for a reason.
Well put.
Despotic regimes start wars, which is what Washington is with out the despot – or a known despot. Throughout known history we always knew who they were – Churchill, Stalin, Hitler, Franco, George the III. But now we have the puppets out front – we have personality contest winners or (s)elected officials doing the bidding of the real despots that form their liar in the depths of the deep State corporate layers.
“War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small ‘inside’ group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes”
Gen. Smedley Butler, USMC
And who is the small ‘inside’ group? I’ll give you three guesses and the first two don’t count.
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That is what the Ottomans would do. Sent the dangerous criminals to the frontline as cannon fodder shock troops so do some damage and get totally damaged before the main Ottoman professional soldiers moved in. A win win.
Communism, Marxism, democracy, dictatorship, etc are all just words that try to find some minor difference between the thugs and sociopaths that run things world wide.
Marxism was a critique of capitalism and its inherent failures and structural problems! Do not put a list of words up there as if you know something ! Read more!
“There are no innocent civilians, so it doesn’t bother me so much to be killing innocent bystanders.”
“If we’d lost the war, we’d all have been prosecuted as war criminals.”
Gen. Curtis LeMay
I think I’m done on the unz review.
I really appreciate Mr Ron’s effort. I needed an outlet to vent. It helped tremendously, str.
I found some real treasures here. I learned much. It was very exciting to think i was learning.
It’s too much fur me i guess.
I’m gonna focus on trim.
You guys(not all) have been great.
I still wish Mr Ron was potus.
Great job, sir.
Good thing, Madeline?(Albright). No matter the other factors, it was a horrendous thing, as were Dresden, etc., etc., etc
Seems to me like the wolf of imperialism has turned into an Ouroboros eating its own tail.
p.s. Beware Ayn Rand and her godless Sign of the Dollar.
https://whittakerchambers.org/articles/nr/bigsister/
War keeps the Jewish Banking Cartel profitable. The cartel lends money to the Military Industrial Complex and collects interest on the loans. The US government gives large contracts to the Military Industrial Complex. And who keeps the US government afloat? The Federal Reserve, which is the main component of the Jewish Banking Cartel. The US government, Wall Street, and the Federal Reserve are failed systems. It’s that simple.
The entire system in America is corrupt. That is precisely why America is collapsing.
(Part of this copied from an RT post)
Look at the corrupt so-called Covid bill aid package…If we divide 3.8 Billion dollar by 5 million Israelis, each Israeli would get $760 each, more money than the piddling $600 each American is going to get. Sounds fair… if the USA was Israel’s slave…which we are.
This is only the opening ante on the coming year in which Marxists AKA Democrats, will outdo what the Rethugs did in regards to giving Israel free money & free weapons. They’ll want to outdo what the Rethugs did for Israel, so expect much more pork, since this kind is Kosher.
Israel is getting twitchy that we haven’t carpet bombed Iran even though the Deep State psychos gave Trump several chances. If he had taken advantage of those false flags & bombed the hell out of Iran, he would not have lost to the thieves.
So brace yourself. Mad Dog Harris is chomping at the bit to be president so she can show the world she can be even more destructive than male presidents.
Wanna bet…?
Nothing is as simple as you think.Thank God.
Dewey beat Truman,Gore beat Bush,Hillary
would have won but for Putin.
Mr Biden won? Wake up. He puts the D in dementia.
You can lie,cheat and steal. You can’t always win.
Guess who didn’t start a war,yet? Watch out, Iran.
I agree. The US fire-bombed Japan in a manner so criminal that big cities like Tokyo was burnt to the ground. Undeterred, US war criminals did the same in North Korea a few years later.
Thanks, I was going to say exactly the same thing. One thing to add is that Carter was heavily influenced by his national security advisor, Brezinski.
And if you believe Akio Nakatani’s book “Death Object” the so called nukes dropped on Japan were hoaxed. He contends and I believe him that the ‘nuclear chain reaction’ is a physical impossibility and this was above all a psychological operation. It also was a convenient reason for the Japanese to surrender something very difficult for them to do because of their culture. It also stopped the Russians in their tracks as they were advancing quickly on Japan. For the Americans it left them as ‘top dog’ after the war and the fear porn of ‘nuclear weapons’ is still with us. Isn’t it interesting that these ‘weapons’ have not ever been used since………………….just like we have never gone back to the Moon either? This is one of the enduring myths of the post war world and is little understood. But don’t take my word for it check out Nakatani’s book
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hit with nuclear weapons as a show of force to the Russians, nothing more. No point developing a nuke if you don’t get to show the world you actually have it.
Calling it now. Ethiopia will be Biden’s first foreign intervention
The neoliberal order are taking advantage of the information blackout from this war. The public are only being fed bits and pieces of information. They’re being primed to support intervention when the time comes
Right now their propaganda machine (“Foreign Policy”, “The Economist”) and those in the Biden Admin’s immediate circle (Susan Rice, NSA pick Jake Sullivan and several others) are pushing the idea that Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed is a war criminal the making and that the TPLF have equal moral footing in this conflict. This is not the case.
The Tigrayan People’s Liberation Front (aka, TPLF) who brought you Tedros Adhanom, the WHO director general that botched this pandemic, are intentionally trying to provoke war with Eritrea and other Ethiopian provinces (the Horn of Africa is built like the balkans so this means race war.) They’ve launched missiles into civilian sites and have spent the last few months committing sporadic massacres while also using their own citizens as a meat shield.
TPLF started the war by suddenly attacking Ethiopian military outposts. They’ve openly stated they took inspiration from Israel’s Six day war tactics. Tigrayan leadership turned their capital city into a military target and told as many civilians as possible to take up arms. Prime Minister Ahmed told civilians to evacuate the city and stay away from soldiers so they wouldn’t get caught in the crossfire. In response, Susan Rice and others started chirping about war crimes. If Ethiopia properly responds to the Tigrayan rebellion they will be slander as an out of control government committing genocide against an innocent population. While the thick of the conflict is over, their is still a chance it will turn into insurgency, and that TPLF will get Ethiopia’s Muslim ethnicities involved
Americans won’t know the details of this conflict so they’ll think Biden’s stopping war crimes. In actuality he’ll be aiding war criminals who have been trying to bait foreign intervention for ages, but as you know, the truth is irrelevant in the face of media manipulation. What better way to take attention away from domestic issues than to start a war under the guise of peacekeeping? If Abiy Ahmed is painted as a war criminal, Biden and Harris will become heroes and liberators when they stop him. It’s the perfect setup
Why are we suddenly targeting Ethiopia? The answer is that they stopped sublimating to NATO and pivoted into the Russia-China-Turkey axis, and kept building their dam which threatens Egypt’s hegemony over the Nile. Egypt is America’s number one recipient of military aid outside of NATO and Israel. If the U.S. doesn’t try to bail them out during their most crucial period it would send the message that the U.S. can’t be relied upon as an ally anymore
If Africa’s second most populous nation at 110 million is destabilized Libya style it will balkanize, and refugees will flood the west in numbers never before seen in history. Waves of literal millions upon millions coming in for the foreseeable future
Pray that I’m wrong
Lincoln is guilty of similar crimes. And one should familiarize oneself with G Washington’s treatment of the rank and file. Not exactly something to be proud of.
While you might be afraid, you’re also wrong given the fact that Japan was dependent and effectively on its knees long before the shooting started. If it were able to defend itself, the deranged, bloodthirsty, power freak, narcissist, FDR, would never have maneuvered their crazed militarists ( a minority among them) into firing the first shot.
The whole damned war was unnecessary, but the sickos, Winnie and Frankie, got what they had long lusted for and what their bosses wanted.
And the concept can be applied to WW1 as well.
If America lost a carrier to a brazen attack from the Vodka Boys or the Rice Gobblers all bets would be off.
Jews… you forgot the true instigators Phil.
Iraq 1990. Jews.
Afghanistan & Iraq II. Jews & 9/11.
Syria. Jews.
Libya. Jews.
Iran all these years. Jews.
Dragging America into WWI. Balfour & Jews.
Dragging America into WWII. Jews & Roosevelt.
Funny, but I can’t think of any nation that wants to start a hot war against the US. Yet the US is on a very deliberate collision course with the likes of Russia, China, Iran and Venezuela, no matter how hard those nations try to scramble out of the way.
Of course, the US will only start hot wars with weaker nations: sanctions are there for a reason. But cold wars can be pretty rough too: the Doomsday clock is there for a reason.
Throughout the 20th century and 21st century the US and friends has been using the Amalek method, attacking civilians, for “warfare”. It fits the bill with our Zion rulers. No mercy allowed for “enemies” even families of “enemies” by our Zion rulers.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-amalekites
Salam dear Phil,
Syria was not destroyed neither left into ungovernable mess like Libya. In fact, the opposite is true, when the Russian were on live TV invited back to Middle East by John Kerry to save Syria and Bashar Al-Asad. On live TV!
Best regards,
Mohamed
Democracies Don’t Start Wars. But Democrats Do
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It’s not so much democracies or democrats as it is Capitalists. We’re always fighting for Capitalist Corporations and banksters/jews (thank you very much woodrow wilson – started the Fed, 1913).
Why can’t these lousy Corpsorations and banksters hire their own army like the old British East India Co.? Why do they always have to use our guys?
Rumors of war on Christmas morning! Geez Giraldi, thanks for the lump of coal in my stocking LOL.
It was inevitable and totally predictable that Russia and Turkey would be turned into America’s bogeymen because they both refuse to bow down to the Imperial Jewish Empire of Israel.
Peace to everyone in 2021.
Another excellent article by PG, but misses the mark. There is no Republican-Democrat binary when it comes to violence abroad (mostly against brown Muslim peoples) because the very soul of America is sick, a condition that has affected America from its birth.
America isn’t worthy of existence until it sheds its penchant for violence. Fat chance of that…
And the media has resurrected the decades old Lockerbie plane downing and the murder of Zio journalist Daniel Perle at the very time the Orangutan has pardoned Blackwater mercenaries for murdering civilians in Iraq.
PS: with apologies to orangutans
“Democracies Don’t Start Wars.”
Oh gawd, yet another writer prattling on about the supposed benefits of “democracy”. [And the US is supposed to be a Republic,not a democracy. Last time I checked, the founders opposed democracy].
Methinks its time for some more Mencken:
“The doctrine that the cure for the evils of democracy is more democracy is like saying that the cure of crime is more crime”
“Here is tragedy – and here is America. For the curse of the country, as well of all democracies, is precisely the fact that it treats its best men as enemies. The aim of our society, if it may be said to have an aim, is to iron them out. The ideal American, in the public sense, is a respectable vacuum.”
“The highfalutin aims of democracy, whether real or imaginary, are always assumed to be identical with its achievements. This, of course, is sheer hallucination. Not one of those aims, not even the aim of giving every adult a vote, has been realized. It has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good.”
“Democracy turns upon and devours itself. Universal suffrage, in theory the palladium of our liberties, becomes the assurance of our slavery. And that slavery will grow more and more abject and ignoble as the differential birth rate, the deliberate encouragement of mendicancy and the failure of popular education produce a larger and larger mass of prehensile half-wits, and so make the demagogues more and more secure.”
“If x is the population of the United States and y is the degree of imbecility of the average American, then democracy is the theory that x times y is less than y”
“The most popular man under a democracy is not the most democratic man, but the most despotic man. The common folk delight in the exactions of such a man. They like him to boss them. Their natural gait is the goose step.”
“[T]here is only one sound argument for democracy, and that is the argument that it is a crime for any man to hold himself out as better than other men, and, above all, a most heinous offense for him to prove it.”
“We must think of human progress, not as of something going on in the race in general, but as something going on in a small minority, perpetually beleaguered in a few walled towns. Now and then the horde of barbarians outside breaks through, and we have an armed effort to halt the process. That is, we have a Reformation, a French Revolution, a war for democracy, a Great Awakening. The minority is decimated and driven to cover. But a few survive- and a few are enough to carry on.”
“Liberty and democracy are eternal enemies, and every one knows it who has ever given any sober reflection to the matter.”
“I confess I enjoy democracy immensely. It is incomparably idiotic, and hence incomparably amusing.”
“Democracy is only a dream: it should be put in the same category as Arcadia, Santa Claus, and Heaven.”
“Democracy-the domination of unreflective and timorous men, moved in vast herds by mob conditions.”
“Free speech is too dangerous to a democracy to be permitted”
Regards, onebornfree
From what I can tell Joe Biden has voted for every single war for his entire career.
He’s also a draft-dodger.
Hopefully the Democratic party will be torn asunder due to its own contradictions in the immediate future. Unfortunately, that just means Republicans will manage to stay in operation.
The US should have remained a Confederation, but the Freemasons wouldn’t have that. The “Union” should have been allowed to split up in 1860, but the Freemasons and the Jews wouldn’t have that either.
Some people like to blather on about how “the founding fathers” wanted each congressmen to represent a smaller number of people. This would mean that there should be thousands of congressmen with congressional districts of around 50,000 voters.
I do think that that smaller districts with more direct representation would be far better, but the real issue here is that the US is far to big to be manageable as a “democracy”, even if there was a congress of 10000 representatives for 40,000 people each. Far better would be 10-100 different confederations each with 10-100 provinces, all united in some kind of trade agreement.
For over a century now the entire western half of the US is merely a provincial plantation to the Freemasons and Jews who own the the entire country. Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam and Alaska are even worse off. The entire planet has become the playground for the jews that own the US.
The real bottom line here is that you can have “Representative Government”, or you can allow Jews to organize and to have equal rights. You simply cannot have both because Jews will either drag you into their wars, or they will incite civil wars, or both. The histories of the US and Europe are proof of this.
Bankers do buy politicians, who then send their militaries to fight wars against supposed enemies whose politicians have also been purchased. Capitalism at its finest. Or should I just call capitalism for what it is usuryism? Personally I think bankerism has a better ring. It is all slavery pretending to be free markets and the means to ownership. Thanks polihookers.
Not to marginalize any war slaughter, we’ve also killed a lot of white Christians over the years in all of our wars. What a sorry statement on American “exceptionalism.”
The low end of the military is made up of the losers in the society; those that went through school and majored in football, alcohol, drugs and chasing skirt. Those that learned something went on to college or some trade, while those that are good for nothing joined the military or became cops.
Face it – the military is a welfare program for the dolts in the society that are willing to kill for a paycheck. These are the morally bankrupt that choose to turn off their conscience and follow orders without thinking about what they’re doing to people around the world. That they may have little other choice since no one else wants to employ them is their own fault. They either are genetically too stupid to function in a modern society or chose to goof off when education was offered.
The upper end of the military is comprised of the real sociopaths and murderers. They go to foreign lands to kill people that have not harmed them or the people of the US. If there were any real justice in the world, the US military would be on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity and hung.
Commander Colin Wright said: “I don’t know about Nagasaki, but Hiroshima obviously had considerable military value.”
Symbolically, Hiroshima was nuked on the day of Transfiguration. This immoral & unnecessary mass killing had ritual value.
People who adhere to the false theory that “democracies don’t start wars” tend to conveniently ignore that National Socialist Germany was a parliamentary democracy. The NSDAP legitimately won enough seats in the Reichstag for President Hindenburg to name Adolf Hitler as Chancellor of a coalition government that included deputies from the German National People’s Party. After the Reichstag fire, Hitler dissolved the parliament and governed by cabinet, perfectly legal under the “democratic” Weimar constitution.
Democracies don’t start wars nor do Democrats start wars. Jews start wars.
Merry Christmas everyone!
… just read the comments to see how the effectiveness of (((their))) SJW propaganda is fading fast.
You are engaging in dissimulation.
The plain fact of the matter is that the evidence of voter fraud has not been examined in a court of law.
Courts of law are where our civilizations make final determination.
There is enough evidence, including signed affidavits, to open up an investigation.
As if a sports betting site is the final arbiter? LoL
Actually Mark, no. Trump did not lose. He won. In fact, he was winning so big that his vote totals in the six disputed states blew right through the maximum values in the vote switching algorithms. That is why four of those states simultaneously had to “stop for the night”. They needed to make adjustments to the software on the fly, and then bring in hundreds of thousands of fake ballots so the physical ballot total would at least roughly match the new adjusted count.
We now can understand why Germans did not throw out Hitler or why Italians did not rebel against Mussolinin much earlier or why Russians did not rise up against Stalin,or why Cambodians did not throng gather in the street against Pol Pot .
Our inertia, fear ,detatchment ,optimism and gullible trust in the system ( even when we are excoriating one or the other political party , and by doing that we are preserving our faith in the system ) are differnet from all of the above countries simply because of the global reach and acceptance of our propaganda ( one consistent success of the system ) .
America ‘s system has two rivals priests vying against each other to sing the loudest ,filthiest ,and most ,ingratiating hymns .
Did he? That’s news to me.
Republicans are Democrats with prettier women and nothing more.
Your question has the answer.
British East India (one of the first corporations) had a charter, which was time based. If the corporation exceeded its charter, it could be disbanded. Corporation root word is corporeal, or men at arms.
A group of men were allowed a carve out in the law, to be men at arms. The East India company had its own mercenary army to then enforce far flung contracts. For example, tea supplies in India.
When Bank of England (a corporation) took over England in 1694, it was a group of hidden stock-owners controlling a country. The now corporate country went on to merge with East India company.
The English military took-over the role of the private mercenaries of East India Company. You can see this in Indian rebellion of 1857, then the subsequent take-over with British Raj in 1858. The British “Crown” took over in 1858, but it wasn’t really the Crown, it was Bank of England, and behind it, their hidden stock owners.
The nature of corporations becoming perpetual, and having more legal rights than sovereign god-created individuals, is at the heart of your question.
Whether or not you are correct in principle is not even relevant so I’m not even going to argue the point. There are always going to be governments or hierarchies of some sort, and no amount of objections or philosophizing is ever going to change that. Someone or some group is going to have power.
Having said that, I would strongly prefer that those in power operate in a way that aligns with my racial interests, rather than in a way that is objectively out to destroy them. I’m not interested in conversations about the moral merits of governments as a concept, I’m interested in preserving my people and a future for my children. If we do not have governments in power that seek to secure these things for us, then we have Jews in power. Jews need to be removed from power at all costs, and that doesn’t happen via some fantastical visions of anarchist utopia. In fact spending time and energy advocating for such nonsense only impedes our efforts to overthrow the global Jewish supremacist regime.
Colin
Chuck
Nagasaki was the most Christian City in Japan. The largest Cathedral was was the target. Zion rulers don’t like Christianity too much. The “Christian” bombers were doing the job. No real (((free))) press to understand what they were doing was wrong.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-bombing-of-nagasaki-august-9-1945-the-un-censored-version/5345274?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles
Do you have something against Jews?
Please don’t distort the historical record like this Dr. Giraldi. As you surely must know, it was Pres. Dwight D. Eisenhower who got the United States involved in Vietnam by refusing to recognize or participate in the Geneva accords in 1954, which called for nation-wide elections after the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu.
Instead of recognizing Geneva and supporting the elections, Ike refused to participate, and propped up and assisted hold outs in the south, who had no legitimacy, by providing them financial and military assistance, as well as political support.
All the debacle in Vietnam stems from Ike’s decisions, although it was in fact Truman who began aiding the French in Vietnam after WWII.
Pres. Kennedy inherited that situation when he took office in 1961. Although he was somewhat naive at first, JFK was a good student of the situation. By at least May of 1963, Pres. Kennedy, through his Secretary of Defense McNamara had established the tone and plan of “phase out” of U.S. forces in Vietnam, which is clear from reading the minutes of the SecDef conference at Camp Smith on May 6, 1963, and the follow-up from McNamara on May 9th, where he wrote that the phase-out plans were “too slow.”
And there is more. McNamara’s speech at the Waldorf hotel in NYC on November 18, 1963 outlined plans for modest defense cuts in the future, asserting that the Soviets didn’t really have 175 divisions facing NATO in Europe, but rather only about half that number, and in fact the Soviet Union had made substantial cuts in its armed forces since 1955.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP66B00403R000400060018-1.pdf
One can only imagine the cheer and good humor with which McNamara’s speech was received in the gilded halls and bastions of the MIC.
Interestingly, in Dec. 1963, the Soviet Union announced a 4% reduction in defense spending, but by then, of course, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy was dead.
Westworld captured your mentality perfectly in the recurring host response. “It doesn’t look like anything to me.”
Trump won in a landslide. It’s notable that no one has made an affirmative case for Sleepy Joe having won the election that isn’t an insult to one’s intelligence.
That makes the theme of this article interesting, including in its timing.
The US isn’t a democracy. It’s a constitutional republic. There is nothing about the democratic component — the 2020 campaign and election — that substantiates any criticism of the electorate whatsoever as supportive of war.
Trump made the case for ending the endless wars (and much more, if you were paying attention). He was cravenly unopposed by the Democrats, who remained Radio Silent when they weren’t attacking him for “threatening our national security.”
Apply the Pareto Principle. Eighty percent knew Trump was right, with a very powerful 20% that wants to get back to business, including the worst sort of corrupt and war-mongering filth.
My essential point being that this governing class is wholly discredited. If a Yeltsin circa 1996 takes the oath — and don’t believe that is anything close to certain — then the MIC has entered uncharted territory. They don’t even have an elected figurehead/pitchman (e.g. Obama; Bush) to legitimize their death and destruction.
Everything remains in play. “The most important election ever” resolved nothing. Not who will be POTUS. Nor which party has the Senate majority. Nor even whether that filthy old whore Pelosi will be Speaker in the next Congress.
And, Trump has brilliantly vetoed the NDAA and teed up a Pocket Veto of the Covid/Omnibus travesty.
Understand something, everyone in Washington knows Trump won in a landslide. He isn’t going to concede and MAGA, which ain’t just Rs but Ds and Is as well, is anything but demoralized. No one is fooling anyone anymore. A corrupt and treasonous gerontocracy, fronting for a CCP-admiring administrative state, is putting the younger politicians of all stripes between a rock and a hard place, telling them to take one for the team by finally forcing through the coup.
Sir, very well said. I believe it was because JFK was going to do what was good for America over the good of the corporations and the bankers. No mere president was going to stand in the way of their lousy profits.
Government is power, raw, corrupt power, always and everywhere.
Those individuals that want power need to function withing the gov’t coercion monopoly or purchase it via bribery, legal or otherwise. It is the existence of gov’t that provides the vehicle for the sociopaths to control the planet. By demanding gov’t, you are demanding a system proven over thousands of years to murder people, enslave them, threaten them, impoverish them and absolutely always connive a system that splits the population to fight among themselves.
I’m not stupid enough to want to maintain that system. You, on the other hand, make an excellent slave.
Governments don’t want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear.
George Carlin
Why all the vitriol against RB’s decision to relocate? Would all of you who rail against him for choosing to relocate in his perceived betterment of his life deal with, say, a woman of domestic abuse and violence who left her husband and then became outspoken about the evils of DV and abuse in the same manner and tone?
RB, I agree with much/most of what you state in your post and I would like what I’m about to state to not be interpreted as an excuse or defense of the morally-bankrupt types you listed; I only want to add a little balance perhaps to the situation.
Let’s keep in mind that many of those young men (and women!) have been “nudged” into joining due to the state destroying and distorting the economy so badly that many/most of those young folks probably didn’t see any other alternatives to earning a living and took the easiest route out of their dismal prospects from wherever they were from, so, shame on the government for all their shitty, destructive, failed central-planning. I hope all politicians have a place in Hell reserved for them. I blame them, ultimately, for robbing and deceiving youth. What an evil thing to do.
Again, not defending their choice to fight for the Empire and the carnage.
Don’t be foolish. A significant cohort of our own citizens will enthusiastically do that regardless how much the system prostrates itself to blacks, browns, and any other group seething with jealousy over the achievements of White Americans. I know you were being facetious, but it is important to note just how implacable the scum pushing this are.
Al-Qaeda was a CIA creation. ISIS was/is Al-Qaeda rebranded by Obama and Hillary. Basically both are an organized terrorist army for purposes the US military can’t or won’t be used.
Tocqueville was only half right.
Since 1913 and the creation of the zionist privately owned FED, all wars have been fought by the ZUS for the destruction of the middle east and other countries for the zionist goal of a satanic one world new world order government, and one world government.
The use of a made up fiction ie scam and psyop of covid-19 which is biggest scam and psyop in the history of the world has the world locked down in a prison that exists only in the minds of the believers but is a prison none the less and has the zionists and their fellow travelers like Gates and Fa uci, etc., close to locking the gate on what little freedom we have left.Now to finish the job of culling the herd, they have the sheeple being vaccinated with vaccines that contain messenger RNA which will change a persons DNA FOREVER and create a transhumanist and quite possibly result in the deaths of millions.
This is our brave new world order that these satanist bastards have in store for us unless we wake the hell up.
Don’t worry, Phil make sure to totally overlook the fact that Trump didn’t start any new wars.
“Donald Trump made the point of denouncing “stupid wars” when he was running for office and has returned to that theme also in the past several weeks, though he did little enough to practice what he preached until it was too late and too little.”
This is not true. On the contrary, there were plenty of teenagers in the center at the time and lots of schools around. many of them had been brought into the city to help put out fires caused by the bombing. So, many people killed or injured by the bomb were in fact essentially children, 12-14 years-old.
Actually, that is not quite true.
My understanding is that top military brass wanted to detonate the device on a remote island to give the Russkies (and everyone else) that ‘show of force’.
But psychos at the very highest level nixed that, wanting to demonstrate that we would vaporize hundreds of thousands of civilians without any qualms (while also being able to fully evaluate the effects of the new devices on large, relatively pristine, occupied cities.)
And all when Japan was apparently ready to fully capitulate on our terms.
It was a show of psychopathic force, nonpareil.
Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the blood lust of psychos in power is beyond the minds of ordinary men and women to truly comprehend. And that power grows more and more inhumane with each passing day. I agree with Phil that the Biden/Harris team scare the living daylights out of me, as both are dyed-in-the-wool psychos of the highest order, capable of God knows what.
Or as one of the 19th and 20th century’s greatest minds sadly noted in clear prescience circa 1898:
“…you may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.”
(The only thing Tesla got wrong in that quote was using the word “may” instead of “will”…… )
Avoiding killing for the State might be the only honorable thing Biden has done.
Marxism was marketed as a critique of capitalism and its inherent failures and structural problems!
Marx was a mouthy punk, FoS and a fraud. Backed by “capitalists,” too.
I don’t know what Giraldi is on about, but George W. Bush’s war trashed a million Iraqi lives, while the war criminal is at present happily painting.
Merry Christmas to you as well, geo!
That’s like somebody citing murder and rape statistics by race and responding, “Do you have something against Blacks?”
I’m officially retired from my professional career, but have businesses that keep me occupied. In all my years of working for others and then for myself, I was never fired or had a days worth of unemployment. I credit that to being a productive individual that took school seriously to get engineering degrees. There was always a position for me because I had something to offer.
The folks that go into the military wasted their youth and learned very little. There’s no job for them because they’re too uneducated and / or too lazy to perform work in the private sector. They go to the military to murder people and then collect their 30 pieces of silver in an early retirement. These are the cretins that then become cops to hassle motorists for the made up crime of speeding, rolling through a stop sign, etc without any victim to be identified. They were murderers for the Fed Gov and then become highwaymen for municipalities to fleece the productive public.
The cops and military will eventually be called upon to collect the weaponry in private hands, the Constitution be damned. These are the people of such low moral character that they will do anything for a paycheck because they allowed themselves to remain mental midgets and as such otherwise unemployable in a modern society. They are the lowest of the low and should be shunned by every productive individual they prey upon.
All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire
Biden didn’t avoid any killing – Biden has probably killed more people than any other sitting politician.
He just never had the cojones to pull the trigger himself – he sent other people’s sons to do it.
It’s the incesterous relationship between fraternal twins, neocons and neo-liberals, giving us there mongoloid war babies. All in the supposed persuit of Democracy and progress.
I don’t disagree.
Nothing that helps.
I was certain you wouldn’t disagree.
Sad but all true.
If Trump had stayed in power, as I hoped, the wall would have been completed. Hopefully other America First policies would have been brought forward even if I have my doubts.
Iran would have gone to another P5+1 ‘peace table’ and America and the rest would have gotten a better deal without Iran losing face by keeping most of their ballistic missile capability.
He’d already given the Zionist more than any other American president so I believe he would stop humiliating himself to the Zionists and pressure from America’s allies in the Arab world would at least stabilize the situation there with some benefits to the Palestinians.
Trump and Putin would get along just fine with Trump visiting Moscow on May Day to the hysterics of CNN, MSNBC et al.
The NORKS…I don’t know what would happen there. I would lob a few cruise missiles at them just to keep ‘Yung Fat Kim’ nervous.
But who knows . All I know is that it is December 25th, Merry Christmas!
Apart from the fact that the USA disgraced itself as a democracy in front of the whole world in the last elections, it is also certain that from now on only undemocratic democrats will populate the white house. Because if a gigantic election fraud was supported by the highest courts of the USA, then nothing will change in the future.
From now on, the USA are a hundred percent killer nation before the eyes of the world. And that brings tears to my eyes to see how this lovely and helpful nation will now be the property of the worst crime syndicate this planet has ever seen.
Yes.
And yes, that $600 amount is pathetic.
Trump is really going out with a bang by screwing the corporate Republi’cunts by demanding a $2000 check per person. The fact that the old hag Pelosi jumped on Trumps’ bandwagon makes it even better. My guess (hope) is that they’ll jack it up to $1500 per person and make it a stand alone bill.
‘Good thing, Madeline?(Albright). No matter the other factors, it was a horrendous thing, as were Dresden, etc., etc., etc’
Well now, there you go. You compare Hiroshima to Dresden, but in fact, not dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have resulted in more deaths than dropping them did, while Dresden was entirely gratuitous and did nothing to accelerate the end of the war or reduce the overall death toll.
Bombing Hiroshima may well have been ‘a horrendous thing.’ Odds are not bombing it would have had more horrendous consequences still. The same can’t be said for Dresden — and that was obvious at the time.
Still repeating that old canard, eh, or did you invent that pretext all by yourself? Either provide a source for the claim, explain your reasoning, or I call BS.
Who said that Japan either had to be invaded or bombed to get them to surrender? And since when did the warmongers and bureaucrats give a damn about saving lives or anything else but their own hides and profits?
Even the ghoul, “Ike,” along with numerous other military men knew that it was not necessary to drop the stinking things or that it was necessary to invade Japan.
So, I guess you know more than “Ike,” eh? Urrrp.
Biden’s nursing home is shaping up according to plan. When you’ve got a crooked, blackmailable presidential figurehead, you need a crooked, blackmailable AG to keep him out of jail. Voilà! Doug Jones! Now CIA can pull the trigger if anyone acts up. Secure control.
https://www.justice-integrity.org/1812-sen-doug-jones-as-confirmable-biden-ag-a-bad-idea
Problem is, there’ll be some minimal animal cunning needed to paper over DoJ’s arbitrary Gestapo shit. A pure crook like Jones doesn’t have what it takes. He’s a cracker retard.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/roger-stone-announces-25m-lawsuit-against-doj-mueller-comey-barr-and-brennan
We seem to be reaching the limit of CIA’s traditional strategy: to get out of trouble for past crimes, just commit some more. CIA’s just breeding deskbound fugitives at this point. They can’t ratfuck anyone but us.
Hey, Tony.
You’ve got my attention with your genuine observations. Don’t quit now- seriously, stick to the pints and weed and let it pour out; you’re our Hank Chinaski!
Nagasaki was home of the Mitsubishi shipyards where the super battleships Yamato and Musashi were built.
The operative word isn’t surrender. The Japanese showed no evidence of actually wanting to surrender, they were looking for an armistice that would end the war without surrendering. This is a pretty good roundup to start with of all the initiatives being explored:
https://www.quora.com/Did-Japan-really-try-to-surrender-before-the-atomic-bomb-was-dropped-on-Hiroshima
The best outcome they were trying to get was a cease fire in place that would involve no military occupation, no change in government,no abdication by the Emperor, and any war crime trials would be conducted but their own justice system.
After the Soviets rejected their efforts to broker a peace and instead declared war, and the cities were nuked, the Emperor finally realized he had to do the unthinkable, endure the unendurable and surrender.
Good feeling, ain’t it – when most of the world’s IQ and thinking ability are going down the tubes by the hour.
But the longer you stick around the more you’ll learn – and it will also protect you from the ever-present temptation to switch off your brain and go back to the lies of the mainstream media.
Who knows ? Perhaps one day (quite) soon something might happen which will put the rare diamonds like Mr Unz into the spotlight – for all the RIGHT reasons instead of the wrong ones. I suspect that many of us here are privately daydreaming about something of that sort.
Stick around, friend. We need the smarter ones here, for sure. Believe me – there’s nowhere else to go.
Not sure how this changes the thrust of the article.
I bet she is. With apologies to all Constitutional Americans, it is my sincere and fondest hope that she will be assassinated as soon as possible – and certainly before Sleepy Joe is carted off to a (late) retirement due to unspecified “ill-health”.
I also hope the demented witch Pelosi is in the same car when the bomb goes off.
My bad.
I’m always surprised at how clueless people on this site are. They know perfectly the MSM are professional liars, not only facilitating the criminals, but are themselves criminals. Never believe them. Unz readers seem aware of this, and yet believe them when they say that Trump, who won by a landslide (they know exactly how many each got) will just slide off into the sunset. He is going to be in the WH four more years because 80% of those who voted, voted for him.
They can fake narrow victories but blatantly vast ones don’t really work.
Democracies don’t start wars?
The American Civil War. The American people voted for that war, fair and square.
Spanish American War. I believe we provoked that one so we could grab Cuba. Everyone was all for it.
Vietnam. We voted for Kennedy, Johnson the second time, and Nixon both times. That’s all our fault, yes, the fault of the democratic voters. The only reason public opinion turned against Vietnam is became it was dragging out and we weren’t winning. If we’d won a nice quick victory, Vietnam would be lionized and praised today.
Democracies have been sponsoring wars in the Middle East and Africa for generations. Democracies have sponsored terrorism so severe it caused Civil Wars in the Middle East. Look at Isis. These actions don’t belong to just one political party here, either. Reagan got up to all sorts of antics in Nicaragua and Panama.
The fundamental problem is that for a defeated people, the Japanese sure as heck hadn’t surrendered. They didn’t seem to know they were defeated, and they were still fighting like crazy all the way up to the bomb.
Yes, it was necessary. Learn some history.
Agreed. Courts have corruptly ‘dismissed’ the lawsuits without actually allowing the evidence to be presented.
The evidence of fraud is overwhelming.
i.e.:
– many references: The Proof Is In: The Election Was Stolen: by Paul Craig Roberts:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/12/paul-craig-roberts/the-proof-is-in-the-election-was-stolen/
– At least 450,000+ ballots in battleground cities had a vote for only Biden. No down ballot votes cast, no independents, green party or write in candidates voted for on those ballots.
– Republicans won all 27 “contested” House seats but lost the presidency?:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/saturdays-fun-fraud-facts-seven-unexplainable-results-reveal-democrats-didnt-even-try-hide-fraud/
– Saturday’s Fun Fraud Facts: Seven Unexplainable Results that Reveal Democrats Didn’t Even Try to Hide Their Fraud: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/saturdays-fun-fraud-facts-seven-unexplainable-results-reveal-democrats-didnt-even-try-hide-fraud/
So true. Just like Mr. Clinton’s intervention, or non-intervention, in the Rwanda genocides. Most Americans still don’t know who the aggressors were in that conflict or Clinton’s motives in letting it happen.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-geopolitics-behind-the-rwandan-genocide-paul-kagame-accused-of-war-crimes/3958
https://www.globalresearch.ca/top-secret-rwanda-war-crimes-cover-up/5657770
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-rwandan-genocide/4223
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-international-criminal-tribunal-on-rwanda-ictr-celebrates-20-years-of-impunity-and-endorsement-of-kagame-military-dictatorship/5417240
It will be fun to watch President Harris send divisions of social workers to fight the next war. We won’t lose any aircraft carriors because Harris will donate them all to Ethiopia as Reparations. BLM n Klantifa meanwhile will learn Mandarin n attack American bases with the full cooperation of the Woke General Staff n Harris will then give them all medals.
Do a little reading – say, 3 months worth or so – and get back to us.
Start here:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net
There is a reason ‘Colin Wright’ was marked as a Troll by Ron Unz himself, on another thread, a little while ago.
A good article covering much of what you have mentioned and more:
https://original.antiwar.com/brett_wilkins/2020/08/05/nuclear-war-or-invasion-the-false-dichotomy-of-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/
And the real reason Japan surrendered:
Perhaps the best book on the subject:
“The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb”
by Gar Alperovitz
Big talk. The Vodka Boys or the Rice Gobblers as you call them would kill a large part of the US. The US warships do not belong in areas outside of the US…their presence in the middle east and Asia is hegemonic. They are not protecting the US.
“…the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing.”
The “fellow travelers” in the American government, left over from FDR, wanted the war prolonged long enough to allow the Soviet army to march east and grab some easy pickings. Truman, it seems, was a little naive in seeing through their arguments, but when he finally did, he decided he wanted a very quick and decisive end to the war. So did the Japanese, as long as they would be allowed to keep their Emperor.
There is actually a good argument that the A-bombings were faked, that they were fire-bombings staged to look like atomic bombs. The terms of the occupation suppressed the truth quite effectively.
Bankers Hate Peace
The SECOND BANK OF THE UNITED STATES was chartered in 1816 for a term of 20 years. The time limitation reflected the concerns of many in Congress about the concentration of financial power in a private corporation. The Bank of the United States was a depository for federal funds and paid national debts, but it was answerable only to its directors and stockholders and not to the electorate.
http://www.ushistory.org/us/24d.asp
ALL WARS ARE BANKERS’ WARS! By Michael Rivero
I know many people have a great deal of difficulty comprehending just how many wars are started for no other purpose than to force private central banks onto nations, so let me share a few examples, so that you understand why the US Government is mired in so many wars against so many foreign nations. There is ample precedent for this.
Obviously, democracies (Greek city states) did fight each other occasionally, as well as anyone else.
This saying, however, as translated to Realpolitik terms, looks like this:“Puppet states of USA don’t start wars with other puppet states of USA”. After all, the same actors could and did invoke No True Scotsman on the countries with much the same formal structures that don’t heed State Department attentively enough.
In this form the phrase sinks straight through the level of intuitively obvious and into banal.
This “principle”, however, does not follow from observable facts, but rather is picked to prop a preconceived conclusion. Which exists, because pacifism is one of the tenets in the subset of Protestantism that grew into modern Mainstream Protestantism. Including branches thereof claiming to be “totally secular” or “atheist”, it mostly sticks to this Quaker theology. See also: “How Dawkins Got Pwned” and “An Open Letter to Open-Minded Progressives” from Moldbug, for details. But it’s obvious.
The other is Social Justice — even if Rawlsian version differs from Tumblr version in style, it’s there. And it’s wrapped in the form of “democracy”.
Thus, stripping this presumption of euphemisms down to underlying theology, we’ll get something like this: “Social Justice is righteous. Pacifism is righteous. Therefore political forms built upon the true righteousness must have strong inclination toward both Social Justice and Pacifism”. Now it’s clear — whether we subscribe to the same dogma or reject it, the path from these axioms to this conclusion is quite straightforward.
Of course, if something supports the Harvard faith /New World Order/whatever, it will profess both principles, along with the rest. The apparent anomalies come mostly from double bottoms in the tenets of “Social Justice” and “Pacifism”.
Chomsky’s controlled by the CIA. He was given a Nobel prize as part payment for his services.
Several hypersonic missles slamming simultaneously into the big population centers might solve America’s internal race problems for a few generations at least.
The last thing I want is to maintain the system that currently exists. But I’m not willing to die on an ideological hill whose prospects fall somewhere between an invasion of two-headed purple space aliens, and Benjamin Netanyahu making a public apology to the world on behalf of the Jewish race. I will not purity spiral at the expense of my children’s future, and I will choose an existing power dynamic that favors my in-group over a more equitable and fair abstraction that will never materialize. Every single time.
Libertarianism and anarchism are dead-end ideologies completely at odds with reality and natural law, through which Jews have further divided and neutralized white European people.
The globohomoshlomo regime would most certainly disagree, made evident by the fact that people like me are imprisoned if our politics become too public.
Sen Dick Durbin of Illinois is an absolute buffoon. He only cares about illegal immigrants.
Lol, Xiden won’t decide anything. He just reads whatever they give him.
Every fixed asset or base will be another Pearl Harbor waiting for that “moment” to occur and ripe for abuse by the ones responsible for their creation. It is inevitable.
Thanks for that. It’s hard to imagine that people still parrot really brainless war propaganda from nearly a century ago (in this case not quite that long). Exasperating at best.
I was tempted to tap the “Troll” button myself, but I am averse to making personal attacks. In any case, he’s never answered any of the questions I’ve put to him so at least he has sense enough to keep his mouth shut at times. “Si tacuisses philisophus mansisses…”
No, it was not. Read my comment.
Please also note that you are in the tiny minority. It looks like 6 others agreed with me so far and all of them have demonstrated their knowledge and intelligence in many comments. You, on the other hand…tsk, tsk.
Note also that you cannot always expect such useless comments to be dignified with a response in the future.
Furthermore, learn when to keep your mouth shut, your eyes open, and your ears tuned and you may learn something. Now go troll somewhere else.
I read long ago that the war in the Pacific was unnecessarily prolonged in order to be able to use the damned things, but I cannot remember the source.
As for them being faked, I wouldn’t be surprised, but according to Racey Jordan, the US government shipped a lot of nuke technology and materiel including uranium salts and heavy water to the USSR during the war via Lend Lease so there’s that.
“Bankers” is just another way of saying Jews. Some do it because they’re afraid of using the dreaded J word, and others do it simply because they haven’t quite put it all together yet.
All wars are JEWISH wars, and the goys who benefit are merely along for the ride.
Did you ever think that “the steal” is just another part of the big Jewish trick being played on everyone by the professional liars in the MSM?
Trump is not going to be president for another four years. Zion Don has served his purpose, which was to give the rising nationalist and nativist sentiment in the US a safe outlet that would lead to nowhere. He played the part perfectly and now ZOG is ready for a brand new op.
Until the USA is wiped out there will be no peace. Putin, the world needs you to change your plans. China and Russia, we need you.
The title is correct. You need to learn who the Bankster’s are in history. Start with Prescott Bush an American Bankster in the late 1800’s. “I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing.” Socrates
How does a history of US militarism find more to condemn about Clinton or Obama than Bush? The last of these somehow merited just a solitary passing reference: “Or it might have been George W. Bush talking about Iraq…”. Talking?!
This is tendentious, presentist nonsense on par with the 1619 project.
If you think Prescott Bush is a meaningful starting point for this discussion then you know even less than I originally thought.
Blaming Carter for Operation Cyclone is to ignore the Deep State entirely. Avrakatos was working his angles in the Nixon years. One could more plausibly hang that on HW than on peanut man.
I’ve commented that Trump will end up as the best President of my lifetime [GenX] (as ludicrous and pathetic as that is), but in regard to engaging my nation in war and the pointless death of my brothers, Carter may actually have the edge. Carter was certainly less the Zionist than Trump so fewer of us died for Jew mythology circa ‘76-‘80 than ‘16-‘20.
Wow! Only 2 comments in and you expose the secret gist of the article, that the immediate future is one of Demonrat war. Do tell us, Captain Obvious, if you have anything to add germane to the topic that Geraldi introduced..
Despicable as it is, the MIC’s little wars against pipsqueak countries isn’t an existential (at least not immediately) threat. But the constant agitation against Russia and to a lesser extent China, could well be. What are the chances that these halfwits provoke a hot conflict with a serious rival? It’s a solution to the financial apocalypse that is impending, no? It’s a relief valve for the racial war that the leftists have been ginning up for the past dozen years, no?
This is probably the most salient piece on UR right now. The election was stolen, nothing will be done. The Demonrats are running the show (!) again and facing the worst economic crisis since 1929 (or perhaps ever) and they have a long record of solving problems with war. Are our rivals content to play conventional war games? If so, up unto what provocation? Are our halfwits (such as our likely half-breed President) up to the challenge of brinksmanship?
They count FDR and LBJ as great heroes. We know what the future portends, we just don’t know how bad it will get..
Lol!, yes.
Also consider the irony of Unz recently disparaging some of his authors as crackpots, while handing out stars to these batshit sore losers.
Unz should have a policy of revoking “stardom” too.
‘…There is a reason ‘Colin Wright’ was marked as a Troll by Ron Unz himself, on another thread, a little while ago.’
…and there’s a reason I’m telling you to go fuck yourself.
‘…Democracies don’t start wars with other democracies.” …’
That remark’s inane. However, thinking about it, it’s possible democracies have a hard time accepting any outcome other than victory. Note the outcomes of the American Civil War, the First World War, and the Second World War. Notice also the difficulty we had accepting failure in Viet Nam, and the difficulty we are currently having accepting failure in Afghanistan. See also the French in Algeria. That one only ended after the Fourth Republic collapsed.
‘Nagasaki was home of the Mitsubishi shipyards where the super battleships Yamato and Musashi were built.’
Thanks. I wonder if this is true as well? From Wikipedia:
‘…Less than a second after the detonation, the north of the city was destroyed and 35,000 people were killed.[23] Among the deaths were 6,200 out of the 7,500 employees of the Mitsubishi Munitions plant, and 24,000 others (including 2,000 Koreans) who worked in other war plants and factories in the city, as well as 150 Japanese soldiers…’
The figures actually sound a little improbable. Better than six out of seven of the dead were legitimate military targets? I’m skeptical of that.
The main point here is that all of what you say indict the whitevil race as the most necrophiliac the world has ever known.
But curiously, this level of evilness is referred to very matter-of-factly (not just you), sometimes with absolute awe, as if it is a very normal human thing.
What else to expect from the most psychopathic race, yeah?
And the reason is that’s the best that trolls can do.
“The only Democratic president who failed to start one or more wars was the much-denigrated Jimmy Carter.”
Almost; I would consider the Afghan trap set for the Soviets a war of sorts, although U.S. soldiers were not directly involved.
Democrats will once again start a war and reinforce the US military presence in the Middle East or elsewhere. Such actions will be sanctified and hallowed by the MSM, because to them ‘democrat’ is synonymous with ‘righteous’ and ‘inherently good’.
The following video summarizes very well and in humor the hypocritical stance of the MSM:
As Paul Watson says, the only time major Western media upheld a Trump decision was when he activated the war machine by ordering the bombing of a Syrian airfield in 2017. Scary that this is so predictable, right?
You really pleasantly suprise me with your commentary as the great majority of clueless Germans are thrilled with the prospect of JB being installed in the white house and they, the “ahnungslosen” BO worshiping Germans, are infected with the most rabid hate for DT to be found on the entire planet.
I was in Germany with my German-born wife, a retired Gymnasium teacher, shortly after the election of DT and in conversation with an elderly upper-class German couple was amazed to hear them state that a good German must hate DT: “Ein guter Deutscher muss DT hassen”.
Of course this can be traced back to the war being waged by the German media for the last fifty years against the US Republican party and the total infection of German society with the green/leftist mentality.
I loved Germany decades ago but it has changed terribly for the worst, and I suspect that things will become even worse.
The brain-washed Germans have no clue as to the truth about JB and his entire family of con-artists and abject scumbags.
AJM
Ever heard of jest? Perhaps, it’s you who needs to go back to the drawing board to learn some new lessons. A tabula rasa is a dangerous thing…
Stunning document. Thanks. Below are several passages from the book that caught my eye, documenting what many might characterize as truly massive treason at the highest levels of the FDR administration. Demonstrating how vulnerable democracies are to subversion from without.
The Manhattan-project materiel was, of course, sent to Russia when there was no guarantee the project would be successful in producing either of the enriched-uranium bomb or plutonium bomb allegedly used on Japan. (If anything the amounts of materiel diverted from the program might well have delayed it.) So a fire-bombing staged to look like an atomic bombing would have made sense if the project was still short of fruition. It would at least have saved face when clearly Stalin was fully aware of its purpose. Remember there was precious little testing.
Yes, I Hate Evil as well as the Evildoers…
Don’t You?
It’s a virtue to Hate Evil, and Evildoers.
Christ showed what he thought of the Pharisees.
The Apostles were “In Fear of the Jews.” Why? Because of their Evil ways.
The Jews don’t have to be and do Evil. But they do. And are.
They don’t give those of us that admire Truth and Goodness any recourse, now, do they?
Amen!
Thank you very much for your reply. I was already worried that I might have offended you. There are quite a few people in Germany who think like me. But they live isolated from the brainwashed rest. Basically, there are two German populations. The large majority, which believes every nonsense, among them also and straight many academics, from whom one would expect actually more thinking achievement. And those who threw their TV sets out of the window a long time ago, who get their information only from the Internet, and who can’t even dare to say what they think openly in their families. In the former GDR, you could still say what you thought within the family circle. But not in today’s Germany.
There is a joke among people like me: Why do German journalists go to the dentist in Poland? Because they are not allowed to open their mouths in Germany. I wish You a merry Christmas-
Which shows you just how Rand continued the fraud of Marx.
Marx’s Communism is about state control. The purest from of socialism is anarchy. Ayn Rand was a communist. Her commune was the financiers and corporations that run the US.
Biden did not win the election by every conceivable way that would be normal.
“Democrats have a worse track record for starting wars than the republicans.” Yes. For one thing, democrats have mostly been in control of Congress for nearly 100 years plus. As for the presidents, let us check out the record. First world war, Woodrow Wilson, democrat. Second world war, Franklin Roosevelt, democrat. Korea, Harry Truman, democrat. Vietnam, Lyndon Johnson, democrat.
Now after Vietnam was lost by the U.S., former democrats had converted to “neo cons”, who seem to be Republican but are really former communist democrats. Thus continuing on with the Gulf War and Bush Jr.’s absurd “War on Terror”, in Iraq, presumably to punish Iraq because of 9/11, even though Saudi Nationals, seemed involved in starting it and Saudi Arabia is a great friend of the Bush’s and the neo cons, so that, the war by “democrats” a.k.a. neo-cons, assured an unbroken line of democrat party war mongers.
Biden did not win the election. In every conceivable way that is rational, that’s a given.
Thank you Jurgen. I have many relatives in Austria and it is the same there, although a few Austrians and Austrian politicians are also sick of the lies being repeated by the status quo, day after day..
Here is a fun one you missed.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/voter-fraud-display-houston-ballots-signature-address/
Nothing to see here, move along.
A lot of smart people are buying up bunkers as far from the US as they can get.
I could be wrong – but I think the author was being facetious…. I think he was mocking the idea that if a country is a democracy it won’t start wars – in the same way it is a mockery that in the US Democrats are peaceful but Republicans like war.
And yes – correct about Germany.
Giraldi has discussed issues like the Iraq war… His point is the new defense bill passed has enthusiasm from Democrats – and it is a war making/perpetuating budget.
Morocco-Israel Normalization Is A War Deal, Not A Peace Deal https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/morocco-israel-normalization-is-a-war-deal-not-a-peace-deal/
https://cryptome.wikileaks.org/2012/06/dod062912.htm
DoD Leaks Classified Abrams Tank Tech to Morocco
Excerpt:
”Kingdom of Morocco–M1A1 SA Abrams Tank Enhancement, Support and Equipment”
”The Government of the Kingdom of Morocco has requested a possible enhancement and refurbishment of 200 M1A1 Abrams tanks, provided as part of a grant Excess Defense Article (EDA) transfer notified to Congress on 27 April 2011, to the M1A1 Special Armor (SA) configuration. The possible sale will also provide 150 AN/VRC-87E and 50 AN/VRC-89E Exportable Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radio Systems (SINCGARS), 200 M2 Chrysler Mount Machine Guns, and 400 7.62MM M240 Machine Guns. The possible sale also includes 12,049,842 Ammunition Rounds (including 1400 C785 SABOT, 1800 CA31 HEAT, and 5400 AA38 SLAP-T), 200 M250 Smoke Grenade Launchers, support equipment, spare and repair parts, personnel training and training equipment, publications and technical data, communication support, U.S. Government and contractor technical assistance, and other related logistics support. The estimated cost is $1.015 billion. This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a major Non-NATO ally that continues to be an important force for political stability and economic progress in Africa.”
https://cryptome.wikileaks.org/2012/06/dod062912.htm
‘…Biden did not win the election. In every conceivable way that is rational, that’s a given.’
Biden won if you grant that the people who matter are not those who vote, but those who count the votes.
…there is, incidentally, a moral there. Assuming we want to retain our democracy, we need to do something to prevent wholesale fraud in future elections. We can run anyone, and they can run anyone; if they can just manufacture votes as needed, they’ll always win.
Profoundly, G J T asked: “Did you ever think that “the steal” is just another part of the big Jewish trick being played on everyone by the professional liars in the MSM?”
Is worth repeating,⭐ G J T, and thanks very much.
Politics is just another sport. Wander over to fivethirtyeight.com where a proprietary model is used to meld 18 active polls for the two Georgia Senate races into a prediction based on statistical analysis. Adjustments are made for pollster reliability, recency, and sample size. Fivethirtyeight pegged the recent prez election within 0.3% using his statistics based approach and a simple adjustment for his 3% error in 2016 (ashamed Trumpies lying to pollsters). Read his explanation of the “house effect” which he adjusts for. All 18 GA polls are shown. He has Perdue up by 0.5% and Warnock up by 0.6% (probably should be a tossup as at least 0.6% are whites lying to pollsters so as not to appear as being racist). As that great philosopher Yogi Berra observed: “It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future”.
I personally find it very suspicious that Barack Obama dispatched B2 stealth bombers from Missouri (a high rarity) to go bomb an ISIS training hub, less than 12 hours before Donald Trump was inaugurated as President. If he knew about it beforehand, the delay in action is suspicious. If he found out about it at the last minute, he should have waited for the incoming president’s input on the mission.
It is best for sheer unabashed evil to wither away and die. By preserving “your people” you are condemning your currently innocent children to turn into that evil too.
After all it is the whitevil elites (chrizzie, juden, godless… who the fuck cares!) and their equally evil apologists (i.e. your kind, indirectly), which have unleashed untold death, destruction and suffering on others. And, y’all will get your much deserved comeuppance.
Now consider, if you are young enough, your innocent child will turn into you, in all likelihood, right? That will be a terrible outcome for him/her. Why would you wish the terrible comeuppance coming to you, on them?
Also…
If a white fellow doesn’t consider him/herself unabashed evil, as I make the point of whitevil apologists above, why not consider this little thought experiment;
Chrizzie/Juden mofers Bush/Cheney/Wolfowitz etc., were responsible for the evil of Iraq war 2.0, right?
Why was it evil?… because the loser called Saddam did not have WMDs, the purported casus belli for war. And, what if he had them? Was it okay to lay waste to millions of innocents for that? After all, Little Kimmy with the Big stick, indeed has WMDs (he virtually gives the middle finger with them), and the impotent whitevil scum are unable to do jack-shit about it.
So, given that war crimes were committed by a bunch of whitevil mofers (so what else is new), would you be willing to pardon them (or obfuscate their crimes) with some creative dissembling, or would you be personally willing to insert a well placed piece of lead, as just comeuppance?
I suspect most of the whitevil supremecist scum who lurk around here will choose some creative dissembling. Hence why they are as much evil as the accursed elites I mention above.
Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.. A Christmas is never belated. Rejoice Christ the Prince of Peace (as) is born.
Brothers forever,
Mohamed
Salam brother,
Merry Christmas on the birth of Christ Prince of Peace (as).
Colin Wright exposed himself long time ago, and since then he keeps on putting his both feet in his Wide Open Mouth! I was gonna say “Wide Open Beaver” like Vonnegut, but caught myself in time!
BTW, to please one of my Muslim’s brother, who kept complaining about me and me loosing several personas, Ron Unz once himself called me a Troll too, to please him. Ron told him, if you don’t like him, then use the Troll button, like I did above. I guess Ron got tired of his complaining in emails to him!
Best regards,
Mohamed
” Prevent wholesale fraud in future elections”
If the current election is allowed to stand with JB as the winner, all future elections will be fraudulent and in favor of the Democrats.
We cannot avoid future fraudulent elections unless the current one is reversed.
AJM
As we say in New York City, you’re pissing up a rope with your endless hopium.
https://straightlinelogic.com/2020/12/23/the-gray-curtain-descends-part-1-by-robert-gore/
‘We cannot avoid future fraudulent elections unless the current one is reversed.’
The current one isn’t going to get reversed.
Resign yourself to that, and decide where to go from here.
For myself, it’s do what I can to promote laws that will prevent wholesale fraud in the future, and push for Tucker Carlson for President, 2024. I’ve never even watched him, but he would seem to be our best hope.
To Mensa braggart, the Authenticjazzman, Colin opined: “For myself, it’s do what I can to promote laws that will prevent wholesale fraud in the future, and push for Tucker Carlson for President, 2024. I’ve never even watched him, but he would seem to be our best hope.”
These two birds demonstrate how little Americans know about our ZOG and tiresome theater.
Maybe Colin Wright is a simpler man than I thought,🤔 but when he endorsed Tucker for 2024 President, I can hear Jews laugh at how little Americans really understand about their “fraudulent” fate.
Hey, Chuck! Colin Wright stated a while ago that he voted for John “bomb, bomb Iran” McCain, ’cause he was white! LOL
Colin is a narcissistic dork with illusions of grandeur!
He is always talking as an expert about things he has NO command of. Not to mention being an individual of extreme bad faith and a complete moron: a while ago, while criticizing the israeli bastards, this fool said that US soldiers never killed children or civilians! This was too much and I was forced to actually post info and photos, photos with a chain of custody, of American soldiers doing exactly that; murdering unarmed civilians, including women and children.
A key characteristic that can be easily observed about this individual, is that while he tries to build some credibility by denouncing Zionism and Israel, he is always hypocritically white-washing the numerous crimes his country, the US, has inflicted and continues to inflict on so many different countries and peoples, throughout a US history drenched with imperialism and militarism. He’s just done it again with regards to the nuclear bombings of Japan.
At the same time he continually pushes most official narratives about key events: he is constantly saying how, “of course”, the holocaust Greuelpropaganda happened just as alleged, notice how he does this one very frequently, how “of course” 9-11 happened just as alleged, etc.
For a while I thought the guy was some sort of gatekeeper, but now I’m convinced he is just a fool with too much free time on his hands, and typical of a certain kind of American hypocrite I see from time to time…
Anyways, good to see you are doing okay, Chuck.
A Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family.
I think I’ve already covered what I have to say to this.
‘These two birds demonstrate how little Americans know about our ZOG and tiresome theater.
‘Maybe Colin Wright is a simpler man than I thought,🤔 but when he endorsed Tucker for 2024 President, I can hear Jews laugh at how little Americans really understand about their “fraudulent” fate.’
Assuming you are being honest, if you actually believed this, you would be led to one of two conclusions.
Either one would make posting anything at all a foolish activity.
Meanwhile, in the waning days of the Trump presidency, out on the high seas, the USS John S. McCain (DDG 56) continues a holiday, goodwill freedom of navigation tour around the Far East.
On Nov. 24, 2020, she ventured into Peter the Great Gulf, violating by about a mile what Russia claims as its territorial waters, but which the USN says is international waters, and its ships are free to operate there.
In response to the American guided missile destroyer’s operation, the Russian Pacific Fleet’s anti-submarine destroyer Admiral Vinogadov reportedly threatened to ram the McCain to drive it from the gulf.
On Dec. 22, 2020 the McCain conducted another provocative maneuver when she sailed past the Spratly Islands in the S. China Sea, leading a Chinese Senior Colonel to claim that the PLA Navy had “expelled” the American warship.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/12/23/no-china-did-not-expel-us-warship-its-territory-navy-says.html
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/11/24/uss-john-s-mccain-challenges-russias-claims-peter-great-bay-sea-of-japan.html
The Spratlys are claimed by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, the Philippines and Brunei.
Donald J. Trump has been president since 2017.
[my bold]
Apparently you did not “get” the essence of my reply so I will repeat myself :
If these current fraudulent election results are allowed to stand and JB is inserted into the white house every following election from here to eternity will be fraudulent and the Democrats will be the winners.
The Republicans or any party other than the deranged Democrats will never win another major election, and the country will descend into a PC socialist lunacy such as unimaginable for any rational person now.
AJM “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.
Let’s not get carried away and laud democracy to the hilt as though it was the best thing since ginger bread man. If you want to quote me the Greeks on the virtue of democracy, bear in mind THEY never practiced it. Besides, let me remind you that Thucydides blamed the “democratic” Athenians for the 20 year war against the “undemocratic” Spartans. The rule of the mob does not deserve the praises it gets from the most undemocratic sources in our society, politicians, bureaucrats, and the corporate press.
As Arthur Koestler et al once said about communism, it’s the God That Failed.
I got news for you, Democracy is also a dead or dying god not worth the trouble.
Merry Crisis and a Happy New Fear; You Will Die of Old Age, I Will Die of Climate Change
Politics is downstream of economics.
The reason no legal investigation has occurred, is that too many in power will have their ox gored. The will lose their illicit income. Politicians do get rich well beyond their salaries, do they not?
Also, many are under the influence of kompromat. They have been compromised or threatened. Who does the threatening? Those who are on the take; a criminal class in suits.
The fivethirtyeight site is polling downstream data. If a legal case were taken up, and the election data actually examined, then that would immediately change the polity, and hence there would be adjustments in downstream statistics.
You hear arguments all the time about how the suppression of Hunter Biden’s laptop and DOJ investigation was enough to swing the election. The pollster data is contingent on what happens upstream.
You are upside down about lines of causality. You can predict outcomes if you have insider knowledge, especially of who is bribing who, and where the kompromat is. Yogi Berra is basically saying, I don’t know enough to make predictions.
But, insiders do know enough. Maybe Biden had insider knowledge?
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/24/joe-biden-says-democrats-created-the-most-extensive-and-inclusive-voter-fraud-organization-in-american-history/