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Curious Bedfellows: The Neocon and Progressive Alliance to Destroy Donald Trump
The neocon metamorphosis is nearly complete as many of the neocons, who started out as Democrats, have returned home, where they are being welcomed for their hardline foreign policy viewpoint.
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The Roman poet Ovid’s masterful epic The Metamorphoses includes the memorable opening line regarding the poem’s central theme of transformation. He wrote In nova fert animus mutatas dicere formas corpora, which has been translated as “Of shapes transformed to bodies strange, I purpose to entreat…”

Ovid framed his narrative around gods, heroes and quasi-historical events but if he were around today, he would no doubt be fascinated by the many transformations of the group that has defined itself as neoconservative.The movement began in a cafeteria in City College of New York in the 1930s, where a group of radical Jewish students would meet to discuss politics and developments in Europe. Many of the founders were from the far left, communists of the Trotskyite persuasion, which meant that they believed in permanent global revolution led by a vanguard party. The transformation into conservatives of a neo-persuasion took place when they were reportedly “mugged by reality” into accepting that the standard leftist formulae were not working to transform the world rapidly enough. As liberal hawks, they then hitched their wagon to the power of the United States to bring about transformation by force if necessary and began to infiltrate institutions like the Pentagon to give themselves the tools to achieve their objectives, which included promotion of regime change wars, full spectrum global dominance and unconditional support for Israel.

The neocons initially found a home with Democratic Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, but they moved on in the 1970s and 1980s to prosper under Ronald Reagan as well as under Democrat Bill Clinton. Their ability to shape policy peaked under George W. Bush, when they virtually ran the Pentagon and were heavily represented in both the national security apparatus and in the White House. They became adept at selling their mantra of “strong national defense” to whomever was buying, including to President Obama, even while simultaneously complaining about his administration’s “weakness.”

The neoconservatives lined up behind Hillary Clinton in 2016, appalled by Donald Trump’s condemnation of their centerpiece war in Iraq and even more so by his pledge to end the wars in Asia and nation-building projects while also improving relations with the Russians. They worked actively against the Republican candidate both before he was nominated and elected and did everything they could to stop him, including libeling him as a Russian agent.

When Trump was elected, it, therefore, seemed that the reign of the neocons had ended, but chameleonlike, they have changed shape and are now ensconced both in some conservative as well as in an increasing number of progressive circles in Washington and in the media. Against all odds, they have even captured key posts in the White House itself with the naming of John Bolton as National Security Adviser and Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State. Bolton’s Chief of Staff is Fred Fleitz, a leading neocon and Islamophobe while last week Trump added Iran hawk Richard Goldberg to the National Security Council as director for countering Iranian weapons of mass destruction. Goldberg is an alumnus of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, which is the leading neocon think tank calling incessantly for war with Iran.

Meanwhile, the neocon metamorphosis is nearly complete as many of the neocons, who started out as Democrats, have returned home, where they are being welcomed for their hardline foreign policy viewpoint. Glenn Greenwald reports that, based on polling of party supporters, the Democrats have gone full-Hillary and are now by far more hawkish than the Republicans, unwilling to leave either Syria or Afghanistan.

The neocon survival and rejuvenation is particularly astonishing in that they have been wrong about virtually everything, most notably the catastrophic Iraq War. They have never been held accountable for anything, though one should note that accountability is not a prominent American trait, at least since Vietnam. What is important is that neocon views have been perceived by the media and punditry as being part of the Establishment consensus, which provides them with access to programming all across the political spectrum. That is why neocon standard-bearers like Bill Kristol and Max Boot have been able to move effortlessly from Fox News to MSNBC where they are fêted by the likes of Rachel Maddow. They applauded the Iraq War when the Establishment was firmly behind it and are now trying to destroy Donald Trump’s presidency because America’s elite is behind that effort.

Indeed, the largely successful swing by the neocons from right to left has in some ways become more surreal, as an increasing number of progressive spokesmen and institutions have lined up behind their perpetual warfare banner. The ease with which the transformation took place reveals, interestingly, that the neocons have no real political constituency apart from voters who feel threatened and respond by supporting perpetual war, but they do share many common interests with the so-called liberal interventionists. Neocons see a global crisis for the United States defined in terms of power while the liberals see the struggle as a moral imperative, but the end result is the same: intervention by the United States. This fusion is clearly visible in Washington, where the Clintons’ Center for American Progress (CAP) is now working on position papers with the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute (AEI).

One of the most active groups attacking President Trump is “Republicans for the Rule of Law,” founded by Bill Kristol in January 2018, as a component of Defending Democracy Together (DDT), a 501(c)4 lobbying group that also incorporates projects called The Russia Tweets and Republicans Against Putin. Republicans Against Putin promotes the view that President Trump is not “stand[ing] up to [Vladimir] Putin” and calls for more aggressive investigation of the Russian role in the 2016 election.

DDT is a prime example of how the neoconservatives and traditional liberal interventionists have come together as it is in part funded by Pierre Omidyar, the billionaire co-founder of eBay who has provided DDT with $600,000 in two grants through his Democracy Fund Voice, also a 501(c)4. Omidyar is a political liberal who has given millions of dollars to progressive organizations and individuals since 1999. Indeed, he is regarded as a top funder of liberal causes in the United States and even globally together with Michael Bloomberg and George Soros. His Democracy Fund awarded $9 million in grants in 2015 alone.

Last week, the Omidyar-Kristol connection may have deepened with an announcement regarding the launch of the launch of a new webzine The Bulwark, which would clearly be at least somewhat intended to take the place of the recently deceased Weekly Standard. It is promoting itself as the center of the “Never Trump Resistance” and it is being assumed that at least some of the Omidyar money is behind it.

Iranian-born Omidyar’s relationship with Kristol is clearly based on the hatred that the two share regarding Donald Trump.

Omidyar has stated that Trump is a “dangerous authoritarian demagogue… endorsing Donald Trump immediately disqualifies you from any position of public trust.”

He has tweeted that Trump suffers from “failing mental capacity” and is both “corrupt and incapacitated.”

Omidyar is what he is – a hardcore social justice warrior who supports traditional big government and globalist liberal causes, most of which are antithetical to genuine conservatives. But what is interesting about the relationship with Kristol is that it also reveals what the neoconservatives are all about. Kristol and company have never been actual conservatives on social issues, a topic that they studiously avoid, and their foreign policy is based on two principles: creating a state of perpetual war based on fearmongering about foreign enemies while also providing unlimited support for Israel. Kristol hates Trump because he threatens the war agenda while Omidyar despises the president for traditional progressive reasons. That hatred is the tie that binds and it is why Bill Kristol, a man possessing no character and values whatsoever, is willing to take Pierre Omidyar’s money while Pierre is quite happy to provide it to destroy a common enemy, the President of the United States of America.

(Republished from American Herald Tribune by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. By embracing the venomous identity politics of the Democratic Party, the neocon snakes openly reveal their contempt for white Christians. This isn’t a surprise. The relationship between Jews and Christians throughout Western history has been fraught with dysfunction, to put it mildly.

    • Replies: @Moi
  2. Biff says:

    The media does a real good job keeping the cabal of neo-cons obscure from the minds of the American public. All, but the most politically astute have never really heard of them. Most any other political faction gets attention getting news clips and clicks, and are always referred to as a group.
    One of the best circus acts the media pulls off is presenting the Bush’s, and the Clinton’s as different, because one family are Republicans, and the other are Democrats, but the neo-con foundation maintains them as one and the same. Stupid voters.

    Neo-cons = never elected, but always there.

    Stupid voters!

    • Agree: Realist
  3. Anon[376] • Disclaimer says:

    More on Omidyar from Sibel Edmonds:

    Omidyar’s PayPal Corporation Said To Be Implicated in Withheld NSA Documents

    {excerpts, emphasis added}

    …”Omidyar’s long-ongoing multi-billion dollar partnership with government agencies, including the CIA and NSA, questionable coincidences and ties between Omidyar-Snowden”

    ”Other whistleblowers from the intelligence community have also expressed grave concerns over the serious implications of the recent venture partnership between journalist Glenn Greenwald and PayPal owner Pierre Omidyar. Indeed, the journalists in question have decided to hold back the release of the remaining 99% of the whistleblower’s documents, and have been inconsistent and vague as to when and how much they intend to release further documents. Their decision to withhold the majority of the documents appears to coincide with their new $250 million business venture with PayPal’s Omidyar, and recent mega-bucks book and movie deals. ”

    ”Crytome.Org’s John Young, whom we sought comments from for this news story, considers the claims by these former NSA insiders valid and legitimate.”

    ”We asked Mr. Young how he viewed the implications of the same billionaire who is allegedly implicated in these documents, buying out the involved reporters (both of them) and getting ownership of the whistleblower’s leaked documents”.

    ”Billionaires are as obliged as financial services to cooperate with governments in order to protect their wealth and to guard against excessive taxation, expropriation, confiscation, prosecution, stigmatization and exclusion from government contracts. Cooperation with governments is essential for wealth accumulation, the greater the wealth the greater the cooperation…”

    SIBEL EDMONDS

    Omidyar’s PayPal Corporation Said To Be Implicated in Withheld NSA Documents

    Sibel Edmonds | December 11, 2013 38 Comments

    The U.S. Government, An Implicated Billionaire, Fortune-Seeking Journalists & A Public in the Dark

    https://www.newsbud.com/2013/12/11/bfp-breaking-news-omidyars-paypal-corporation-said-to-be-implicated-in-withheld-nsa-documents/

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  4. Why did Trump choose crazy neocon Bolton as his national security adviser, and now Bill Barr from the CIA? Yes, President Trump’s new attorney general is a career CIA agent. He is not a career CIA officer, but trained at CIA headquarters for years and then continued as a covert agent placed in key government positions.

    http://deepstateblog.org/2019/01/15/bill-barrs-cia-resume-cover-ups-covert-operations-and-pardons/

    This is not mentioned in our corporate media, and explains why Democrats also supported his nomination. This is more evidence that Trump has no intention to confront the Deep State. I’ll be surprised if he can accomplish a very minor rollback by removing our troops from Syria, which may be just to consolidate forces for an attack on Iran. Meanwhile, Barr can meet with fellow covert CIA agent Robert Mueller to keep the political gridlock game going so nothing changes, the empire keeps expanding, and Trump remains under tight control.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Moi
  5. This is called “The Clarification.” Look it up.

  6. T. Weed says:

    Why are they still trying to destroy him? He has done everything they demanded, the odious Bolton and disgusting Pompeo are in charge of a belligerent Israel-first foreign policy. What else can he do to please them? Bomb Tehran?

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @ATBOTL
  7. JLK says:

    It seems that some of them may view Trump as an unenthusiastic supporter of certain past decisions.

  8. Realist says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    This is more evidence that Trump has no intention to confront the Deep State.

    Trump is part of the Deep State…as I have said numerous times.

    • Agree: Moi
    • Replies: @JLK
    , @Bragadocious
  9. The neocon survival and rejuvenation is particularly astonishing in that they have been wrong about virtually everything, most notably the catastrophic Iraq War

    It depends on the point of view. For America’s de facto rulers, a war which shattered a perceived threat to Israel and created mountains of dead and wounded goyim, all achieved at little or no cost to Jews, was spectacularly right.

  10. Renoman says:

    There is nothing the Rats and the Jews won’t do to get rid of Donny Daddy, nothing.

  11. The Jews first used the Soviet Union as their vehicle to spread global terror and when it became obvious in the 1970’s that that wasn’t going to pan out, they shifted to the United States, though it could be argued they’d been at work in the U.S. since they’d corrupted FDR in the 1930’s.

    Given that they’ve made themselves despised throughout Europe it’s hard to say where they’ll descend on next once they’ve hollowed out America. Israel won’t work because there’s no host to parasitize and to Asians, they’re “white” and thus, foreign.

    As for Trump, it’s become obvious that he’ll do their bidding in spite of the fact that they hate him. I wonder if they’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse; war with Iran in return for their support in 2020.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  12. wayfarer says:

    Trotskyism: the political, economic, and social principles advocated by Trotsky especially the theory and practice of communism developed by or associated with Trotsky and usually including adherence to the concept of worldwide revolution as opposed to socialism in one country.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotskyism

    Who Made the Useful Idiots of the Left?

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  13. Neo-conservatism is Progressivism.

  14. Sherlock says:

    Irving & Billy Kristol invented “neocon”, like father like son. No honor among thieves.
    “neocon” ….. just another way to spell TRAITOR.
    “I have been a neo-Marxist, a neo-Trotskyist, a neo-socialist, a neoliberal, and finally a neoconservative.” – Irving Kristol, Neo-Conservatism: The Autobiography of an Idea
    To get a sense of the horror these ‘revolutionaries’ brought to Russia and to the white people and Christians, we need only read the words of Trotsky as he explained how the Christians and whites of Russia, the dominant race, were going to be treated.
    THIS is what the kristol family supports, THIS is Trotskyism: ““We must turn Russia into a desert populated by white Negroes upon whom we shall impose a tyranny such as the most terrible Eastern despots never dreamt of. The only difference is that this will be a left-wing tyranny, not a right-wing tyranny. It will be a red tyranny and not a white one. We mean the word ‘red’ literally, because we shall shed such floods of blood as will make all the human losses suffered in the capitalist wars pale by comparison.” – Leon Trotsky
    NeoCon was INVENTED by Irving Kristol and his CABAL of TROTSKYITE COMMUNISTS. Irving Kristol himself was once a member of the “Workers’ Party”—a Trotsky-influenced political group. In his Neoconservatism: The Autobiography of an Idea, Kristol admits to being “lucky to have been a young Trotskyite and I have not a single bitter memory.” Leon Trotsky was born Lev Bronstein in 1879 he supported the concept of the “Red Terror” — the destruction of all the enemies of the revolution. “Ruthlessness,” Trotsky said, “is the highest revolutionary humanism.” Once he personally ordered the execution of every 10th man in a regiment that had fled from a battle.
    Trotskyism renamed Neo Conservatism, Leon Trotsky advocated for form of Communism called Permanent Revolution Permanent Revolution, in the eyes of Trotsky, was a world where somewhere a communist revolution was taking place and the old order was being overthrown, bringing in government by the people. To achieve this, he wanted Russia post-1921 to actively export revolution abroad, using the expertise that the Communists had gained since November 1917 to achieve this. He wanted Russia to send experts abroad to assist revolutionary movements and he wanted Russia to help finance such movements. Trotsky believed that a world experiencing a permanent revolution could only strengthen the hold of the working class and destroy what he viewed as the old order that had done all it could to strangulate the workers. Neo Conservatives are generally Zionist or supporters of Zionism, who work the revised plan of permanent revolution, rebooted now as permanent war in service of the Israeli agenda. The Project for a New American Century, called PNAC was a neoconservative think tank, which focused on American foreign policy. PNAC was an organization led by influential and mostly dual citizen Zionist conspirators, a group of people serving the interest of Israel over the interests of Americans.
    In the 1970s neoconservative Irving Kristol aptly described the Republicans as “the stupid party.”
    NeoCon is COMMUNISM wrapped in an American flag.
    NeoCons refuse to WEAR an American uniform ….
    they just wrap themselves in the flag and send YOU and YOURS to be maimed and
    killed while they WAR PROFITEER off their “defense stocks”.
    Today’s American NeoCons are yesterday’s Jewish Trotskites & Bolsheviks. SAME PEOPLE. Jewish Bolsheviks, the SAME people who holocausted the Ukrainian Christians.
    There are TWO holocausts they do NOT want REMEMBERED.
    The Armenian holocacaust of 1.5 million Christians carried out by Donmeh-Jews Young Turks.
    The Holomodor and USSR holocaust of 66 million Christians carried out by Bolshevik-Jews.
    https://mothersagainstmarxism.wordpress.com/category/bolshevik/

    The correct spelling is neoCOMMUNIST.

  15. “The Neocon and Progressive Alliance to Destroy Donald Trump”

    Satan didn’t force the forbidden fruit into Eve’s mouth; rather, he made her do it. All he did was to whisper something in her ear. Likewise, the only way the Satanists can “destroy” Donald Trump is by making him destroy himself (happening as I type this); which is child’s play in this case since Donald Trump is an ignorant, arrogant, mentally defective, shallow, malignantly narcissistic, morally bankrupt, breathtakingly reckless, utterly unprincipled buffoon.

    And because of this it’s almost pointless to argue the question of whether or not he “intended” to follow through on his pre-election intimations and campaign promises since he is obviously inherently incapable of doing so, if he could even somehow acquire/establish such an “intent” in the first place. Donald Trump promising to “make America great again” would be like a five year old child promising to lift 500 lbs. over his head; it’s impossible.

    “One of the most active groups attacking President Trump is “Republicans for the Rule of Law,” founded by Bill Kristol in January 2018, as a component of Defending Democracy Together (DDT), a 501(c)4 lobbying group that also incorporates projects called The Russia Tweets and Republicans Against Putin.”

    How come all these groups weren’t “attacking” Obama? Obama didn’t appoint Bolton et al.; Obama didn’t move the embassy to Jerusalem; Obama didn’t pull out of the JCPOA agreement with Iran (he advocated it); Obama didn’t abandon the INF treaty with Russia; Obama wasn’t planning on militarizing space; etc. In general, Obama wasn’t nearly as confrontational with Russia and China as Trump is yet Trump is being attacked because he’s such a pussycat if not a Russian agent? Seriously?

    And why isn’t Trump even creating the appearance of fighting back? He has the power of the presidential bully pulpit at his disposal, for example, yet he sits there mute? Something just doesn’t make sense here. Could it be that the “everybody’s out to get Trump” scam is just another scam?

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @EliteCommInc.
  16. Realist says:

    Against all odds, they have even captured key posts in the White House itself with the naming of John Bolton as National Security Adviser and Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State. Bolton’s Chief of Staff is Fred Fleitz, a leading neocon and Islamophobe while last week Trump added Iran hawk Richard Goldberg to the National Security Council as director for countering Iranian weapons of mass destruction. Goldberg is an alumnus of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, which is the leading neocon think tank calling incessantly for war with Iran.

    Against all odds,…??? That’s bullshit. Trump chose them and many others, because Trump is part of the Deep State.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  17. Realist says:
    @Harold Smith

    And why isn’t Trump even creating the appearance of fighting back? He has the power of the presidential bully pulpit at his disposal, for example, yet he sits there mute? Something just doesn’t make sense here. Could it be that the “everybody’s out to get Trump” scam is just another scam?

    Of course…Trump is part of the Deep State.

  18. JLK says:
    @Realist

    Trump is part of the Deep State…as I have said numerous times.

    There are schisms in most groups. May they split wide open and reveal everything.

  19. “Republicans for the Rule of Law”

    Odd title for a groups violating the international rules of law and justice.

  20. @Realist

    I am not sure it’s quite that dynamic. More likely that the president’s bid to show stregnth and being an outsider leaning on insiders is what is at play here.

    I don’t think the president had any idea what he was up against really. I think he honestly thought, I won and its my show. which by all rights it should have been, but he has never assessed correctly that,

    They didn’t like hike before. They definitely don’t like him now. And have no intention of liking him now muchless allowing him to lead without making it clear its their way not his.

    He needed allies and his choices were anything but, regardless of how honorable they might have been. I am shrinking from the belief that this president will be any real conduit for the transformative president he could have been — might still be.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  21. @Harold Smith

    One of Dr. Bacivic’s real creditable works is that concerning the powers arrayed against any president, much less an outsider.

    Washington Rules : America’s Path to Permanent War

    he may have assessed the rhetorical political landscape accurately, but I suspect that he had no clue of the internal buearacratic monster of established politics that awaited him.

    Now that he knows — he has some tough choices to make to be a conduit for change. Monumental will would be required. That includes breaking faith with the likes of Fox News that wants to steer him in the direction of intervention.

  22. Zumbuddi says:
    @wayfarer

    Rethinking “Agree.” after reading about Bezemov on various blogs . Several track the systems Bezmenov described directly back to Putin / Russian government.

    I think that’s bogus.

    First, Russia today and Putin are, imo, radically different from Bolshevik Russia whose tactics Bezmenov describes.

    Second, US .media is pushing the Russia & Putin evil subversive meme.

    US media is also at the front of the brainwashing Bezmenov described.

    US media is not run by Russians.

    The (((people))) who control US media brainwash Americans Trotsky-style then blame it on today’s Russia.

    Finally, the process of subverting a nation is described, as a deliberate campaign of psychological and military conwuest, in the Hebrew books of Joshua and Judges: first spies were sent in, then a prostitute was ‘turned’ to betrayal; then the Hebrew men marched around the city blowing thru ram’s horns, then shouting — creating chaos & disabling panic, then the slaughter & capitulation & occupation.
    All a key part of Jewish “sacred scripture.”

    So thanks for mentioni g Benezov, and learn what you can, but trust no one.

  23. Trump does not need any alliance to destroy him…
    He destroys himself too well to need anybody else…..

    • Troll: apollonian
  24. @Realist

    If he’s part of the Deep State, why would they have engineered a failed coup to stop him? Why are they still frantically trying to remove him from office? Why would Trump repeatedly call the Iraq War a colossal failure — the only one among 17 GOP candidates to do so, other than Rand Paul? Why would he question NATO, the ultimate cozy Deep State operation?

    As a Deep Stater surely his goal would be to not ruffle any feathers. And he would call Iraq a noble effort to promote democracy and yada yada yada. Nah, all the evidence suggests that he’s a disrupter, not a cheerleader, of the Deep State. I primarily look at what his enemies are saying to confirm this. When they pipe down, I’ll agree that he’s one of them.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Realist
  25. @T. Weed

    I don’t know if he’s ever written about it, but I’d love to get Mr. Giraldi’s take on what might happen if the US started bombing Iran at the insistence of Netanyahu and his Neocons, whose lifetime wet dream is for US soldiers to die for Greater Israel. Some commenters apparently think that both Russia and China will stand by and do nothing. I don’t see how they can. After expending so many men and so much treasure to keep Mr. Assad in power in Syria, how could Mr. Putin just bring the Russian troops home and allow Iran to be annihilated by the Hegemon in the mother of all bombing campaigns? Indeed, how could Putin stay in power if he acted so cravenly?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Uncle Sam
  26. Uncle Sam says:

    It is truly revolting and disgusting the way the Jews have taken over America. Trump simply has too many Jews around him, and if the circumstances are right, they will stab him in the back.

    The Jews have made a total mockery out of the American political system, such that that system no longer represents the American Gentile population, and is indeed a mortal threat to them in that the Jews may cause a nuclear war with Russia. American Gentiles are nothing more than slaves and cannon fodder ( for those dumb enough to join the American military) under this antiquated and dysfunctional political system.

    If one wants to participate in the American political processs, and assuming he is an American citizen, he has to be willing to expose himself to opposition, criticism or different points of view. The Jews, however, do not accept that. Their pathological belief that they are a special people , i.e., God’s chosen people, means that they have to be immune form criticism of any kind. And if someone has the audacity to criticize them he is immediately smeared, vilified or demonized as an antisemite. a racist, a bigot and so on. If that doesn’t work, they try to destroy his livelihood or wreck his career, as for example the actor Mel Gibson and more recently the CNN analyst Mark Lamont Hill.

    By way of analogy, the National Rifle Association does not try to vilify or destroy the people who oppose them. And to the best of my knowledge, I can think of no other lobbying group that does, at least nowhere near to the extent that the Jewish lobby does.

    I am afraid that America is in its “Weimar Republic” phase and that it will take a strong man to straighten everything out.

    • Agree: follyofwar, mark green
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  27. “If he’s part of the Deep State, why would they have engineered a failed coup to stop him?”

    Simple; because a failed coup not only doesn’t stop him, but it makes him look like a hapless victim, a martyr for the cause of truth, justice and the American way, albeit an amazingly ineffectual one – which is apparently the propaganda goal.

    “Why are they still frantically trying to remove him from office?”

    They’re not frantically trying to remove him. If they were they’d be hammering him over his war crimes, his abandonment of the INF treaty, and other serious things for which he seems very vulnerable.
    Also if they were actually trying to remove him he’d actually be using the power of his office to fight back, which he isn’t.

    “Why would Trump repeatedly call the Iraq War a colossal failure — the only one among 17 GOP candidates to do so, other than Rand Paul?”

    Simple; because talk is cheap and he’s a pathological liar; an unprincipled, opportunistic liar.

    “Why would he question NATO, the ultimate cozy Deep State operation?”

    Simple; because because talk is cheap and he’s a pathological liar; an unprincipled, opportunistic liar.

    “As a Deep Stater surely his goal would be to not ruffle any feathers.”

    He’s not actually “ruffling any feathers”; he only pretends to be (and the people that need to be fooled are fooled, and all is right with the universe).

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  28. @Bragadocious

    Mr. Trump is certainly a disrupter when it comes to the border, but, on foreign policy, it seems pretty obvious that he has been captured by the Deep State, or at least he cannot stand up to it. I hated both Obama’s domestic and foreign policies, but at least he stuck it into Nuttyahoo’s eye when, with John Kerry doing the heavy lifting, he negotiated the Iran Nuclear deal. (Word is that Obama hated the Bully of Tel Aviv so much that he couldn’t stand to be in the same room as him). With the threat of an attack on Iran thus minimized, the world seemed like a little safer place than today after Trump, fulfilling a campaign promise to Israel, tore it up the first chance he got. How is anyone who is for peace still able to support Trump after he put Pompeo and Bolton into positions of power? And I fear for who Trump will name to be our next DOD Secretary.

  29. peterAUS says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I am shrinking from the belief that this president will be any real conduit for the transformative president he could have been….

    Looks like it.

  30. peterAUS says:
    @follyofwar

    I see….discussion not heated enough. Boring, a?

    ….I don’t know if he’s ever written about it, but I’d love to get Mr. Giraldi’s take on what might happen if the US started bombing Iran

    Yes he has. And, some of other authors too. And plenty of commentators offered their opinions.

    But, I”ll bite. Won ‘t say anything I haven’t said several times so far. Naturally, some other guys will come with replies I’ve already seen.
    So…yes….it will liven up a discussion here a bit.
    Here I go:
    Trump needs a huge “US way” thing to win the next elections. The best way to do that, historically, was a nice war. Emphasize on “nice”. Meaning short and without too many casualties.
    The war against Iran is the best for that.
    When I say “war”, it’s actually more or an “armed engagement”. Something like that show over Syria.

    So, here it how it goes:
    Deep State, with gusto, creates a situation when an incident is given->incident happens->MSM gets into frenzy and Westen sheeple get comfortable with the show enough not to do anything->US military, with allies, execute a campaign, from a safe distance, onto chosen Iranian targets.->The regime in Tehran takes all it on the chin, weathering all that out->after, say, a couple of weeks of that show the regime in White House proclaims victory (naturally, Tehran proclaims the same).->the show pleases enough of sheeple to vote for the President; more importantly, the destruction of certain Iranian targets pleases “them”->Trump wins the second term.
    Everybody happy (except dead and mutilated, but that’s life….except for the dead but let’s not get carried away).

    Now…..as in most of “armed engagements’ in the history of humankind, all that above could slip out of control and can ESCALATE. I think….80/20 not escalate/escalate.

    That’s me.

    Oh, BTW, could’ve written the usual replies to my comment but it’s just too much work. They’ll be coming soon. Say….the usual 70/30 “playground screaming”/civil disagreements.

    • Replies: @anon
  31. Mulegino1 says:

    Trump’s problem is obviously not that he is antisemitic or anti-Zionist, but that his zeal in the defense of the supremacy of the Jews is perceived as insufficient, which in and of itself constitutes a capital offense in the eyes of the self-proclaimed chosen.

    It is not sufficient to grovel or scrape and bow before these people. One must place their interests before one’s own and personal interest. One must not only acknowledge, but openly embrace their Holohoax religion and the absolute right of the Zionists to steal Palestinian land, murder Palestinian children and cry out in pain as they engage in offensive warfare throughout the greater Middle East.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  32. @Harold Smith

    He’s not actually “ruffling any feathers”; he only pretends to be (and the people that need to be fooled are fooled, and all is right with the universe).

    Well, that’s the beauty of posters like you. You claim to be in possession of superior data while the hapless rubes stumble around in the dark. Problem is, you never share your data. You simply assert, then say you’re right. Because of the superior data.

    Maybe Trump is as you say, maybe not. Fact is, until he disrupted NATO, Europe was paying less to the alliance. Now they’re paying more. Not my opinion, these are the words of Jens Stoltenberg. And the Deep State was very unhappy with Trump’s actions. I’d call that “ruffling.”

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  33. @Anon

    Sibel Edmonds lost me when she went after Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett. I don’t trust anything coming from Newsbud after that smear-job and their glorification of the White Helmets.

  34. @Uncle Sam

    It appears that only our Dissident Right is sufficiently Red Pilled on Jewish total dominance of the formerly great US of A. And everything possible, short of arresting their leaders (which might happen next), is now being done to silence them. I’m waiting for the dam to burst, as is now happening in France and some other Jewish-occupied Euro countries.

  35. anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    At the time of the Trotsky-Stalin split and the former’s demise Soviet propaganda accused the Trotskyists of having gone over to the other side and working with the capitalists to bring down Soviet communism. It seemed far-fetched but this article pretty much confirms this switching of sides by the Trots. Current American politics has produced some strange bedfellows. The American system has partly depended on constant expansion and permanent war, a strategy that obviously can’t continue forever but one with no internal restraints but bumps up against external restraint in the form of Russia, China, Iran. The ideologues along with the war profiteers could engineer a world-wide disaster for everyone in their zeal to force their way. A lot is hanging in the balance.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  36. peterAUS says:
    @anonymous

    The American system has partly depended on constant expansion and permanent war, a strategy that obviously can’t continue forever but one with no internal restraints but bumps up against external restraint in the form of Russia, China, Iran. The ideologues along with the war profiteers could engineer a world-wide disaster for everyone in their zeal to force their way. A lot is hanging in the balance.

    Pretty much.
    Especially the last two sentences.
    Actually, even worse; they could create disaster not by engineering it but simply by mismanaging some important events.

  37. “strange bedfellows”?

    not at all:

    the difference between the neo-con Jews and hardLeft Jews was/is merely tactical:

    the neo-cons want Israhell on the map until such time as they have completed the destruction of White Western Civilization….in case things derail, and they need someplace to scamper off to.

    the hardLeft Tikkun Olas, more confident than the neo-con Jews, figure they’ve got YT down for a nine count already and will need no bolt hole.

  38. @Bragadocious

    “Well, that’s the beauty of posters like you. You claim to be in possession of superior data while the hapless rubes stumble around in the dark. Problem is, you never share your data. You simply assert, then say you’re right. Because of the superior data.”

    My opinions are based on observation and reasoning. Anyone who cannot by now see that orange clown is a deep state Trojan horse and that the “let’s get orange clown” scam is nothing more than a political punch and Judy show, is apparently either delusional or dishonest.

    “Maybe Trump is as you say, maybe not.”

    If everything he’s done (or failed to do) so far is not enough to convince you, please give some examples of what it would actually take to convince you; e.g., “a public confession”; “a selfie showing him throwing babies out of air force one”; etc.?

    “Fact is, until he disrupted NATO, Europe was paying less to the alliance. Now they’re paying more. Not my opinion, these are the words of Jens Stoltenberg. And the Deep State was very unhappy with Trump’s actions. I’d call that ‘ruffling.’”

    ROTFLMAO! First, let’s say you’re correct about the facts; you would call such a demand by orange clown a “disruption”? Seriously? (At worst it would be tantamount to a lovers’ spat). Still assuming it happened, how do you know that the “deep state” was unhappy with that? They called you on the phone and told you?

    Second, it seems your imagination is running away with you again. Apparently it didn’t happen.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-nato-members-spending-us-germany-angela-merkel-evidence-a8444396.html

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  39. Uncle Sam says:
    @follyofwar

    You are assuming that American air and naval forces can devastate Iran. Nothing could be further from the truth. If the American military thought they could pulverize Iran, they would have done so long ago

    American piloted aircraft would suffer heavy — and unacceptable — losses. That is why they would have to use their aircraft as standoff platforms to fire cruise missiles and flying bombs into Iran. Most of them would be shot down or misdirected. Witness the enormous success the Syrians have had against Israeli flying bombs and cruise missiles.

    The Irani retaliation would be quick and devastating. The Fifth fleet would be destroyed as would Israel. The Strait of Hormuz would be shut.

    The game is not worth the candle.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Christo
  40. @Harold Smith

    how do you know that the “deep state” was unhappy with that? They called you on the phone and told you?

    Gee, I don’t know. Could it be all of the Tweets from Deep State psychopaths like John Brennan and Evan McMullin blasting Trump for questioning the “sacrosanct” NATO partnership? I’d say their tweets are pretty indicative of how the Deep State sees things.

    Or the fact that the Brits sicced MI6 on Trump after some anti-NATO musings in 2015. That would seem to be, oh, evidence.

    But yeah, maybe it’s all a dog and pony show. I don’t know, and neither do you. Maybe those kids at Sandy Hook weren’t killed. I mean, did you see any dead bodies? Ha! Thought so.

    As for that story, what are you trying to convey? That until you see cancelled checks from Germany and Spain, there isn’t any proof that Europe is paying more? Stoltenberg already said they are. Maybe Stoltenberg is lying. Maybe he’s in on the scam. Maybe he doesn’t even exist, and is a hologram created by Russian troll farms in partnership with Nintendo.

    The story did include this gem of a quote by Trump, referring to NATO: “I can do whatever I want, this alliance has no legitimacy”

    See, that’s the guy I voted for. The Disrupter.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
    , @Harold Smith
  41. @Johnny Smoggins

    Why would they leave America after it’s been hollowed out? This country has everything they could possibly want. A huge continent separated by oceans from the rest of the world’s turmoil, abundant natural resources, a population of slavish, donkey-like Mexican peons, inured to suffering and asking little of life.

    Seeing to it that the whims of the Jewish Plutocracy will be carried out will be the function of a secret security police who employ roided black thugs as enforcers over the cowed Mexican peons and East Indian programmer slaves. The black’s co-operation will have been assured by having been granted exclusive control over the illegal drug and prostitution trade. Any manufacturing taking place will be done by the massive Asian population working in joint-venture Jewish-Asian owned factories, the result of open borders.

    A small remnant of Euro-whites will huddle in a homeland consisting of Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Nebraska and the Dakotas. Cut off from world trade in their agricultural based subsistence economy they will soldier on, living embodiments of Morgenthau’s dream of revenge.

  42. @ThreeCranes

    Maybe, maybe not. I have no doubt that Jews fantasize about lording over everyone else, just as their god has told them they should, but on the other hand they need White people to leech off because other than scamming, they’re pretty much incompetent at everything.

    It’s no accident that historically they’ve turned up in large numbers in White nations like Russia, Germany, Britain and the U.S. and have mostly steered clear of black and brown nations.

    Regardless, we’re in a fight to the death with them now and only one of us is going to win.

  43. Svigor says:

    Jews + Jews + Shabbos Goyim != strange bedfellows.

  44. @Bragadocious

    How, sir, is a protection racket disrupted by making the “protected” pay more?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  45. Realist says:
    @Bragadocious

    If he’s part of the Deep State, why would they have engineered a failed coup to stop him? Why are they still frantically trying to remove him from office? Why would Trump repeatedly call the Iraq War a colossal failure — the only one among 17 GOP candidates to do so, other than Rand Paul? Why would he question NATO, the ultimate cozy Deep State operation?

    You’re being played.

  46. Contrary to popular opinion, Trump is NOT independently wealthy, but instead owes his financial survival to Bear Sterns and other Jewish banking institutions who bailed 3 or 4 of his business ventures out of bankrupcy in the late 1990s and early 2000s. In this regard, he’s in much the same position as Winston Churchill, who from the day he entered parliament was under total control of Jewish bankers who (for instance) wouldn’t have allowed him to discuss peace terms with Adolf Hitler even he had been inclined to do so. In one way or another,, every US president since Woodrow Wilson (including him most of all) has been owned by Jews, which goes to explain why no matter who’s in the White House, US foreign policy desined around US domination of the entire world, has since 1913, changed not one iota.

    • Agree: apollonian
  47. @Bragadocious

    “‘how do you know that the ‘deep state’ was unhappy with that? They called you on the phone and told you?’

    Gee, I don’t know. Could it be all of the Tweets from Deep State psychopaths like John Brennan and Evan McMullin blasting Trump for questioning the ‘sacrosanct’ NATO partnership? I’d say their tweets are pretty indicative of how the Deep State sees things.”

    I thought we were talking about your claim that you somehow know that the “deep state” was unhappy about orange clown’s demand – and the other NATO countries’ acceptance of that demand – that they spend more money (which didn’t actually happen). But now you’re changing it a little bit. Now you’re claiming to somehow know that the “deep state” is unhappy with orange clown for questioning the [existence?] of the “sacrosanct NATO partnership”? So which is it? Please make up your “mind.”

    “Or the fact that the Brits sicced MI6 on Trump after some anti-NATO musings in 2015. That would seem to be, oh, evidence.”

    ROTFLMAO! Yeah that’s “evidence” alright; evidence that you’re throwing handfuls of shit at the wall and hoping some of it sticks.

    “But yeah, maybe it’s all a dog and pony show. I don’t know, and neither do you.”

    Yes, I do know that it is, and most likely so do you.

    “Maybe those kids at Sandy Hook weren’t killed. I mean, did you see any dead bodies? Ha! Thought so.”

    Why don’t you finish mutilating this subject before moving on to another one?

    “As for that story, what are you trying to convey? That until you see cancelled checks from Germany and Spain, there isn’t any proof that Europe is paying more?

    I was “trying to convey” that contrary to your bare assertion, there’s apparently no evidence that orange clown was able to get any NATO members to increase spending as per his demand.

    Stoltenberg already said they are.”

    Apparently he didn’t. If you’re going to claim otherwise then prove it.

    “Maybe he’s in on the scam. Maybe he doesn’t even exist, and is a hologram created by Russian troll farms in partnership with Nintendo.”

    Or maybe you’re just full of shit.

    “The story did include this gem of a quote by Trump, referring to NATO: ‘I can do whatever I want, this alliance has no legitimacy’”

    LOL! First, if orange clown believed in good faith that NATO had no “legitimacy,” then why would he want to spend more money on it?

    Second, the story also said:

    “Nato secretary general Jens Stoltenberg could provide no details to corroborate Mr Trump’s claims of massive and fast defence spending, despite repeated questions from the media.”

    So if the “story” contains something you agree with, that part of the story is true and correct, but if it contains something you don’t agree with, you pretend it’s not there?

    “See, that’s the guy I voted for. The Disrupter.”

    LOL! Sorry but the guy you voted for is a dissembler, not a disrupter (of the status quo).

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  48. @Uncle Sam

    Man, I hope you are right, Uncle Sam. If so, then even Israel’s bully boy, Mr. N, would know this. So why has this Jewish chickenhawk been calling for Iran’s destruction, by the US military, for 20 years? If it is all a CIA/Mossad psyop, designed to scare the Iranian people and prompt them to overthrow the Mullahs, then it isn’t working, or it would have worked a long time ago.

    If Trump thinks that, by being bellicose and making Pompeo and Bolton his top two foreign policy advisors, it will help him win re-election, then he’d better think again. He would have never won if he had campaigned as just another war-first Israel-bootlicker. Seriously, I just don’t get the stupidity.

  49. @ThreeCranes

    Actually, for those whites who want to separate, a “homeland consisting of Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Nebraska, and the Dakotas” would be a dream come true. Those states have tremendous natural resources. No “free trade” would be needed or wanted. Far from being a “subsistence economy” they would prosper. It’s called White ingenuity.

    And they could build a “big, beautiful wall” surrounding it, without opposition from the low-intelligence Far-Left. Let the rest of the self-destructive former USA go to Hades, which is exactly what would happen.

    We are either going to separate peacefully or there will be a civil war. I don’t see any other option.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  50. @Harold Smith

    Ok bub. Anyone who pooh-poohs MI6 interference in a U.S. election isn’t worth my time. It’s clear you’re another psychopath with Trump on your mind, 24/7. This paragraph says it all:

    Obviously, orange clown is completely mentally and morally defective and he therefore has no business occupying the highest political office in the land. He’s the equivalent of an unsupervised, emotionally disturbed child playing with matches, in a house full of highly flammable material, and that – i.e., the extreme danger he poses to all life on this planet – is the only sense in which he can be taken seriously.

    This is straight from John Brennan and Bill Kristol. I mean, word for word.

    • Replies: @Kolo
    , @peterAUS
  51. anon[151] • Disclaimer says:

    Recent flurry of activities and authorized sounds emanating from Jordan UAE Egypt regrading the admission of Syria to Arab League show that the Arab’s struggle against Iran as portrayed by Jew and Israel is and has been nothing but self serving lies . They are as Shamir has told before ” jews say muslims don’t like Christmas ” to hide their foot prints and to make muslim feel wanted and accepted by the visible power.

  52. “It’s clear you’re another psychopath with Trump on your mind, 24/7. This paragraph says it all:”

    Orange clown was elected to take the world off the path to WW3. Instead of doing that he’s reversed himself and betrayed his supporters; he’s escalated tensions everywhere. Clearly, orange clown’s a devil-worshiping, demon-possessed madman who’s leading the world to planetary extinction on the orders of his depraved jewish-supremacist handlers, but I’m the “psychopath” for pointing it out?

  53. Christo says:
    @Uncle Sam

    Actually US air power could destroy all of Iran’s Air Force and subsequently a large chunk of its armed forces , along with its power grid and its industrial/manufacturing capabilities similar as the US did to Iraq back in 1990. The real factors that prevent the US from attacking Iran , is that Iran, unlike Iraq , sits astride the entire north coast of the Persian Gulf , and also the Gulf of Oman and commands the passage of the Strait of Hormuz between them. This gives Iran the position to decide if the bulk of oil produced in the Middle East can be shipped to the rest of the world. Iraq could not do that , so Saddam did not have that geographically commanding”insurance”. Iran does. An Israeli/neocon ordered US attack on Iran would close the Persian Gulf disrupting the world oil market and supply and subsequently the worlds financial markets catastrophically and in ways unpredictable. This combined with the fact the US no longer has the ground forces to subjugate a country and population the size of Iran in a reasonable time, would mean long term disruption of world oil/trade and financial markets. The (rich) might want, wish and love Israel to rule the world , but they want , wish and love money first. A US war on Iran represents too much of a risk to their gravy train on making money as things are now, that why the US has not attacked Iran. Iran’s military’s capabilities as bombing targets has not and will not be a deciding factor against any US military attack.

  54. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Omidyar has set up safe houses on an island in France, Southern California and Nevada along with a 640-acre ranch in Montana. “I’d say we’re probably more significantly prepared than the average family,” Omidyar said. “We have property all over the world and we have property we can fly to.”

    His long residence in Nevada and Montana, inside the greater Deseret Empire, offer a clue to his cult-like perspective. One of few new religions not hostile to the Church of Latter-Day Saints is the Bahai Faith, which originated in Iran although its largest temple, the Universal House of Justice, is based in Haifa, Israel.

    Another clue to Omidyar’s covert connection to Bahai is his focus on development projects in Zambia, the chief target of the sect’s missionary activities in Africa.

  55. @follyofwar

    Right you are, but I deliberately painted a gloomy picture to highlight what our enemies have in store for us.

  56. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Omidyar is a CIA agent and work toward Zionist criminal project ‘WORLD GOVERNMENT’, Rothschild family and its stooges George Soros and Rockefeller, Zionist bankers world domination, a 1984 George Orwell, slaves under surveillance living on earth.

    Pierre Omidyar co-funded Ukraine revolution groups with US government, documents show
    Just hours after last weekend’s ouster of Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, one of Pierre Omidyar’s newest hires at national security blog “The Intercept,” was already digging for the truth.

    https://mediachecker.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-ukraine-revolution-groups-with-us-government-documents-show/

    Apparently, he is a Bahia, where was originated in Iran. More than 95% of Iranian Bahia are coming from Jewish background where support Israel and their temple is in occupied land. He has close connection with the Zionists, and at the Roshan center, at Maryland University where he tries to use Iranian language and culture for his political gain, majority of people are Zionist friendly, and some have traveled to Israel, and taught at the university build in occupied land of Palestine.

    Pierre’s mother Elahe Mir-Djalali Omidyar had similar credentials as a Farsi linguist at Georgetown University in the mid-1970s when the Carter administration was grappling with the upsurge in popular protests in Iran against the Shah’s regime, while USAID advisers were trying to identify the underlying socioeconomic causes of the unrest. At the time when the Shah of Iran’s grip on power was starting to crumble, Ayatollah Khomeini was in exile in Paris. Elahe Omidyar’s Ph.D.-level fluency in both Farsi and French had to be an outstanding asset.

    Founded by Dr Omidyar, the Roshan Institute for Cultural Heritage is dedicated to the preservation of Persian culture. Since the institute’s literature makes a point of using Persia rather than Iran, a bit of explanation is needed. Though the two names are somewhat interchangeable, Persia refers to the polyglot empire and the ancient language that is the basis of Farsi, while Iran is more associated with the modern nation-state. The word Iran is based on Aryan, the ancient Indo-European term for “Land of Light” (as opposed to the higher latitudes as one travels northward). Persian in cultural reference also tends to imply the imperial dynasties and the courtly culture of the native emperors and conquering dynasties that adopted the regional culture.

    The Roshan symbol of 24-ray sun is based on a carving at the ruins of Persepolis, the capital of the Achaemenid Empire, who best-known emperors were Xerxes and Darius II. Alexander the Great, avenging Xerxes’ invasion of Greece (depicted with extreme bias in the movie “300”), either allowed or ordered the destruction of the-then world’s greatest city. The two Shahs of modern Pahlavi dynasty, Reza and the CIA-installed Mohammad Reza, staged massive performances at Persepolis to identify themselves with the Achaemenid dynasty. Fate being ironic, their rule ended nearly as disastrously. For purposes of discussion here, the Omidya valorization of Persepolis indicates attachment to the Shah of Iran, whose court included many advisors and officials were Bahai followers or Jewish by birth.]

    http://www.rense.com/general96/saving.html

    He has received many ‘award’ for his services, including one from Andrew Carnegie Medal of Philanthropy

  57. Kolo says: • Website
    @Bragadocious

    Glad you realize Harold is mad

  58. peterAUS says:
    @Bragadocious

    The paragraph sounds as a very good description of Killary, actually.
    Like:

    Obviously, Cackling Bitch is completely mentally and morally defective and she therefore has no business occupying the highest political office in the land. She’s the equivalent of an unsupervised, emotionally disturbed girl playing with matches, in a house full of highly flammable material, and that – i.e., the extreme danger she poses to all life on this planet – is the only sense in which she can be taken seriously.

  59. ATBOTL says:
    @T. Weed

    Open borders is just as important to neocons as Israel First. They already get the latter from the entire political mainstream anyway. Sure, the neocons sent a part of their network, the pseudo-“nationalists” like Bolton to work with Trump. Neocons are aggressively opportunistic and will attempt to infiltrate everything. There is already a neocon faction set up specifically to work with and subvert the “far-right.” They have operated mainly in Europe, giving support to nationalists who are friendlier to Israel and trying to marginalize nationalists who are stronger on ethnic nationalism. Nick Griffin has done some good work documenting these types.

  60. Moi says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Much as I admire PG, he’s wrong. The fact is that America is being bitten in the ass by its history. What’s different now is that smart Jews are firmly in control of the neocon agenda of full-spectrum domination and unconditional support of Israel.

  61. Moi says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Agree, and @Realist is is spot on that Trump is part of the Deep State.

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