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Quite likely a majority of Americans would agree that it is wrong for the government or police to torture someone, though some would surely accept the “ticking time bomb” exemption, where a detainee is withholding information that could save many lives. It is in fact illegal to torture someone as well as it being morally wrong. Indeed, it could constitute a crime against humanity or a war crime depending on circumstances. The United States, which has signed the United Nations Convention Against Torture and is bound by it, has thereby accepted legal sanctions to back up the view that torture is never permissible. Under US law, torture committed by “government officials and their collaborators upon a person restrained by the government is a felony punishable by up to 20 years in federal prison, and its fruits are inadmissible in all courts.” Given that background, one is astonished to learn that some in the government have not taken the obligation seriously. To be sure, the US has been quick to react when lower ranking officials, contractors and ordinary soldiers have reportedly been involved in torturing prisoners, as occurred with Abu Ghraib prior to 2004, but the higher one goes up the ladder of power the less do laws apply to even the most egregious misbehavior.

It has long been known that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), in the wake of 9/11, resorted to torture in its overseas “black” prisons, but details of what took place and anything that would stand up in court as evidence has been difficult to discern as it has been easy for the Agency to shroud its more nefarious deeds through claims of protecting “states secrets.” But now some more details have emerged. The news that former Donald Trump appointed CIA Director Gina Haspel during her tour overseeing a prison in Thailand in 2002 personally observed at least one terrorist suspect being tortured by waterboarding, which simulates being drowned repeatedly until a confession is obtained. Waterboarding was used by the Japanese on prisoners of war in the Second World War and was subsequently considered to be torture, a war crime.

The new information came from one of the creators of the Agency’s “enhanced interrogation techniques” program, psychologist James E. Mitchell, who was testifying in a May pretrial hearing at Guantanamo Prison relating to the treatment of Saudi al-Qaeda linked terrorist suspect Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, who has been accused of being complicit in the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000 that killed 17 American sailors. Al-Nashiri, who was shipped to Gitmo in 2006 and who has been waiting sixteen years for his trial, could face the death penalty if he is convicted. His defense is seeking to demonstrate that the evidence against him was obtained by torture and should therefore be inadmissible.

Al-Nashiri was subjected to four months of waterboarding as well as to what have been described as “other coercive techniques” during his questioning in Thailand. According to testimony, the hooded interrogators repeatedly slammed al-Nashiri’s head into a wall and forced him naked into a small confinement box. When he briefly went on a hunger strike due to his treatment he was fed rectally. It is not known how frequently Gina Haspel, the senior officer in charge of the base, observed the torture, which she allegedly watched but did not participate in, but she drafted up the classified cables detailing what had occurred and what information had been developed. Oddly, al-Nashiri was freely answering the questions from the interrogators, who recommended that the extreme measures be stopped, but CIA Headquarters insisted that the torture continue in the belief that nothing is “true” until it is verified under torture. Rather than resigning to demonstrate her disagreement, Haspel allowed the process to continue, which is why in part some of her former Agency colleagues regularly refer to her as “Bloody Gina.”

Videotapes were made of the torture but they were subsequently destroyed. Haspel participated in the November 2005 destruction of hundreds of hours of recordings contained on 92 tapes showing at least two interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and al-Nashiri. She did so while serving as chief of staff to the Director of the National Collection Service Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. At her Senate confirmation hearing as Director in 2018, she said “I would also make clear that I did not appear on the tapes.” Rodriguez, who made the decision to destroy the tapes, also reportedly determined how to handle a suspected terrorist detainee Gul Rahman. Rahman was chained, nearly naked, to a concrete floor for an extended time and then froze to death. There was an internal CIA investigation but no officer on-site nor at the Agency headquarters was punished – let alone prosecuted. In fact, Rodriguez, who was in charge of the detention site, received a \$2,500 bonus for his “consistently superior work.”

The Agency currently regards the existence of the black prisons and the procedures used to elicit information as a “state secret” even though the existence of the sites is widely known and has been reported on extensively. After serving as Director of Central Intelligence Haspel retired from CIA in January 2021. She currently works for a major Washington law firm King & Spalding L.L.P., a typical transition for senior officials who are able to exploit the revolving door between government and the private sector. She reportedly is part of the firm’s Government Matters practice where she “advise[s] clients on cybersecurity and information technology, among other issues.”

Every instance of torture by the federal government or its agents is by law a separate felony. Beyond that, what went on in the Agency’s black overseas prisons is shocking even in a Washington where no crime is too low to the contemplated by the governments we have unfortunately placed into power. Some might object that Gina’s actions amounted to oversight of a dreadful necessity, but there is something particularly loathsome about a powerful Administration intelligence officer finding time to watch the horrors performed on a suspect who undoubtedly was not afforded any due process before he arrived in his cell to be experimented on by a team of modern-day Torquemadas.

The unfortunate fact is the Gina Haspel is not alone. She committed what are undeniably felonies and now enjoys a well-paid sinecure with a law firm that deals extensively with the government. One might recall similar trajectories relating to the former CIA Director George Tenet who lied America into a war with Iraq that is regarded as the greatest foreign policy failure since the Second World War. He was rewarded with a professorship at Georgetown. And then there is his partner in crime Paul Wolfowitz, he of the fabricated intelligence, who was named head of the World Bank only to subsequently step down after an unacceptable sexual relationship with a subordinate whom he rewarded with promotions was exposed. He is now a Senior Fellow at the neocon affiliated American Enterprise Institute think tank. George and Paul just might consider how the Nuremberg Trials regarded starting a war of aggression as “the ultimate war crime.” And they might suggest a bit of retrospection from their friends George Bush, Doug Feith, Scooter Libby, and Condi Rice, all of whom have been complicit in the same infamy. And then there is Donald Trump’s assassination of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani based on a lie that he was seeking to kill Americans. They are all doing quite well, thank you, either still active or ensconced in highly respected retirement positions, shielded by their wealth and power.

As long as there is no accountability in Washington the farce of government “of the people, and for the people” will continue. That a government can use the “secrets privilege” to conceal and avoid any consequences when killing people without any due process is despicable. If you use government resources to murder someone, you should be tried and go to prison. If you start a war through deliberate lying, you should stay in prison forever. Those who make the decisions to commit crimes are wired into the system and are in a sense bullet-proof, while the public has been completely brainwashed and the beat goes on. Another recent story tells how the CIA was apparently planning to kill currently imprisoned journalist Julian Assange in London. It reportedly included scenarios for a possible shoot-out in the heart of the city, the ramming of Russian diplomatic vehicles and the disabling of any airplane that might be involved in an escape attempt. Who came up with that one? It dates back to 2010, when the noted constitutional lawyer Barack Obama was president. Didn’t he or his advisers know that murder is against the law?

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected].

 
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  1. anon[416] • Disclaimer says:

    The second amendment. The original and only homeland security.

    • Agree: CSFurious
    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Realist
  2. Dr. Giraldi wrote: “But now some more details have emerged. The news that former Donald Trump appointed CIA Director Gina Haspel during her tour overseeing a prison in Thailand in 2002 personally observed at least one terrorist suspect being tortured by waterboarding, which simulates being drowned repeatedly. ”

    Lest we forget how Ray McGovern got trounced by the Capitol police during Haspel’s confirmation hearing.
    👿

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @JWalters
  3. Alrenous says: • Website

    They won’t be, give it up.

    Assume they will go on to perpetrate again and plan accordingly.

    • Agree: michael888, Adam Smith
  4. Every high-level Agency administrative bureaucrat has been guilty of serious crimes against humanity since it was created during the Administration of Harryass Truman, along with the N\$A, the Airfarce, and the Department of “Defense” which has been on the aggression-tainted offensive since it replaced the Departments of the Army and the Navy.

    It all began with Allen Dulles, who was almost certainly complicit in the assassination of our last genuine American president, John Fitzgerald Kennedy in Dallas on 11-22-63. JFK had fired his ass for the Bay of Pigs fiasco and numerous other “incidents” such as the removal of the Prime Minister of Iran in 1953 on behalf of oil interests, most particularly the Rottenchild Crime Clan’s predecessor of British Petroleum.

    The most recent of the worst ones was the egregious Bible-Thumping Michael Pomposity, who after he headed up the Agency, was selected from the powers that be as Trump’s Secretary of \$tate. Pomposity is a notorious “Born Again” who is currently pushing for more and more lead-ups to a potential nuclear war against Russia. Though that certifiable Bass-Turd appears to be calling the shots, he’s actually a devout puppet for the Khazarian Mafiya Babylonian Talmudists.

    Thus, the biggest criminals of all are the intermarried Bank\$ters who run the Western “nations” as their personal fiefdoms. Nevertheless, their willing power-mad psychopathic and sociopathic minions, definitely including all the top brass in the CIA, most particularly those who are in the Operations division, are indictable career criminals…individuals who use torture and assassinations on behalf of state power…that power being exercised by trillionaire crime clans.

  5. Dr. Giraldi wrote: “The news that former Donald Trump appointed CIA Director Gina Haspel during her tour overseeing a prison in Thailand in 2002 personally observed at least one terrorist suspect being tortured by waterboarding, which simulates being drowned repeatedly until a confession is obtained.”

    And lest we forget how Ray McGovern was trounced by the , Capitol police during Haspel’s confirmation hearing.

    • Replies: @Lysias
  6. Our elected leaders never pay for their mistakes and blunders. Even when their actions are criminal in nature, no one ever does any prison time. Sure, they might have to face a public inquiry by congress now and then, but that never amounts to anything in the end. Both republicans and democrats try to have their ‘gotcha’ moment which makes the other side look bad, but it’s soon forgotten. Nothing ever comes of it.

    Did former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder ever pay for his gun-running scheme? Did Obama’s IRS thug, Lois Lerner, every pay for her crimes? Has Hillary Clinton received any justice for all the illegal crap she’s engaged in? How about all those congressional officials who went along with the lies and false impeachment claims surrounding Donald Trump? How about those who concocted ‘Russia-Gate’ and manipulated the federal courts to help them? Does anyone really believe that Hunter Biden and “the big guy” will get convicted in a court of law and do serious prison time? Of course not. How about all those wealthy and important people who regularly frequented Epstein’s pedophile island? Will they ever have to face a court if it can be shown that they diddled underage girls? Don’t count on it.

    Only the ‘little people’ have to pay for their crimes. Well, that and perhaps anyone else who ruffles the feathers of our Judeo Bolshevik overlords too much. Is it any wonder why the greater majority of the American people don’t trust the federal government? And why should they? Our congressional critters do everything in their power to persuade us not to trust them. The same could be said about the mainstream media. The only people who believe the government and the media are those lacking in discernment and critical thinking skills – which accounts for at least half of the American population!

    All of it, of course, comports with a dying nation. When you create a no-trust society via multiracialism and multiculturalism, including liberal lunacy, what else are we to expect? When you celebrate America as a deviant freak parade, don’t be surprised when the nation starts to break apart.

  7. Franz says:
    @emerging majority

    Very true.

    For connoisseurs of torture stories, look to the drug war. Not only pure torture, but completely legal. Broiling people alive, a torture unknown since ancient times, has been revived in Arizona and everywhere else that took the “drug war” seriously.

    Even though anyone can find out about it nothing can be done. It’s totally legal under the Zero Tolerance laws. Americans don’t just torture foreigners anymore. We start at home.

    https://fee.org/articles/chasing-the-scream-is-a-powerful-antidote-to-the-drug-war/

    One day Hari is talking to the head of a prisoners rights group and ask what the most shocking thing she’s encountered is:

    “She started to reel off a long list – and around the middle of her litany, she referred in passing to a case where a woman was cooked in a cage, before continuing on. Sorry Donna, I said, can we go back a moment? Tell me about the woman who was cooked in the cage.”

    • Thanks: Rahan
  8. @emerging majority

    Can’t use the AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC feature, so have to agree her. I AGREE.

  9. Anonymous[259] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s clear that capital punishment does not work to eliminate the problem of warmongering, torture and crimes against humanity. All of Hitler’s gang, tried and executed at Nuremberg, were obviously quickly reincarnated into the monsters now serving America’s vile “national interest.” Pure evil is like energy, it can never be created nor destroyed only converted from one form to another.

    • Agree: mocissepvis
    • Replies: @Katrinka
    , @RockaBoatus
    , @HdC
  10. SafeNow says:

    “Sadistic personality disorder” was included in the DSM-III (diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders) as a mental illness. Defined were the characteristics of people who derive pleasure by inflicting pain upon others. It has been removed (I use the passive voice) and does not appear in the DSM-5 (Arabic numbering is now used.) Now it’s okay; nothing to see here.

    By the way, I remember how Obama said “We tortured some folks.” Two objections. First, “torture” does not go with “folks.” One might properly say, “We invited some folks to an Easter-egg hunt on the White House lawn.” Second, what is the approximate magnitude of “some”?

    • Agree: ariadna, Notsofast
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    , @TKK
  11. bert33 says:

    Criminals don’t follow the law and some are zealots who are hell-bent on death and destruction and once thusly radicalized are human weapons on 2 legs, kind of like the terminator, only without the german accent and ability to survive gunfire largely unscathed. There are bad people and groups and such in the world, and to this writer, and to readers, I put the question of what tools you want to be available to our govt. to be able to stop berzerkers and other bad actors in the world who would love to see the united states burn to the ground. Whether its personal at street level or an international conflict, once people are on the warpath, people will be hurt and killed. So, again, what tools do you want uncle sam to have in his tool box to fight the good fight and win the day? Careful what you wish for, you might get it. “People Sleep Peacefully in Their Beds at Night Only Because Rough Men Stand Ready to Do Violence on Their Behalf”-Grenier, Orwell, somebody

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  12. My understanding is the Nuremberg Trials themselves were a sadistic Jewish mockery of justice, with confessions obtained by torture, such as testicle-crushing.

    If so, (((everyone))) involved is guilty of war crimes, as well as everyone who’s participated in the cover-up ever since.

    • Agree: Druid55
  13. Ghali says:

    What the Jews are doing to America and Americans is criminal. Instead of criticising Russia and China, non-Jewish Americans should be ashamed and bury their heads in the sand.

    • Replies: @Derer
  14. the Nuremberg Trials regarded starting a war of aggression as “the ultimate war crime”

    – except for Stalin’s attack on Poland and later Finland which, of course, were no wars of aggression

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  15. You have reminded me to include in a speech on desirable reforms the near abolition of extradition, not least if the extradition is to the United States.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  16. Anon[278] • Disclaimer says:

    War crimes have no statute of limitations. The people involved in the war crimes Giraldi describes might be arrested and tried decades hence.

    Also note, even the lowliest clerk can be tried for war crimes 75 years later;,

    For example in Germany a trial is underway of a 97 year old lady who worked as a 18 year old civilian in a typing pool in a labor camp in 1944.

  17. Anonymous[970] • Disclaimer says:

    “Constitutional lawyer”, a term used for both Clinton and Obama, is code for “idiot”.

    Waterboarding is a standard part of SERE training. It is torture but there are bigger crimes available.

  18. Richard B says:
    @anon

    waterboarding, which simulates being drowned repeatedly until a confession is obtained.

    The hostile elite has been waterboarding the United States for ages (and not just the United States). But instead of a confession they want blind obedience to their authority.

    And of course instead of actual water they use non-stop propaganda, financial instruments, mass immigration, and of course, their stable of paid proxies and useful idiots. The list could go on, but I’d never finish.

    The good news is that their addiction to destruction is undermining their lust for power.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  19. Usually, politicos make sure that there is some gap between the criminal act and themselves, to ensure deniability. The facts seem incontrovertible: Haspel promoted the use of torture and witnessed her operatives carrying it out. This seems incredibly sloppy and stupid for any competent apparatchik, which obviously Haspel isn’t.

    As things stand, Haspel seems untouchable. But economic, political and social collapse for America is imminent. What happens thereafter, God only knows. Will Haspel’s brazenness come back to convict her ? Time will tell.

  20. Legba says:

    I don’t want to be an ally of the CIA or anything, but I’m pretty sure they don’t feed hunger strikers rectally.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  21. GMC says:

    It’s looking like a lot of those being tortured, are the innocent or possibly innocent and the severest guilty ones are given a free pass. This is so the general populace gets the drift that – you are next if you don’t go along with the One World Order scam. Fear, destroying ones livelihood, freezes on bank accounts, put on secret terrorist lists, assassinations, and other illegal acts have shown the destruction of any legal system in place. This is one of the reasons Russia is in Ukraine – and one of the reasons the USG programs its populace to hate Russia. The Western Crime Syndicate and their Media can not allow the citizens in the West to find out the truth.

  22. roonaldo says:

    Huh. Ya gotta love life in the good ol’ U.S.A.–adults can abduct, torture, and kill others and get bonuses and promotions for doing so. Meanwhile, gradeschoolers, for the grave crime of “mispronouning”, are ostracized and expelled.

    About fifty years ago, we first-day sophomores were hazed–my hair was a mass of petroleum jelly, marshmallow creme, and sprinkles. Tabasco sauce was squirted in my eyes and I was shoved into a bathroom to put on white undies with the ass end smeared with peanut butter. In front of the entire student body, three boy-girl teams raced tricycles, and since my duo lost, we were made to hold hands and skip around the basketball court to the tune of “Tiptoe through the Tulips.” We then rejoined the bedraggled mass of sophomores as school administrators droned on about past and future glories.

    Despite ribbing by classmates and embarrassment on my part, no trauma ensued. The consensus was that I was the second-worst of the hazed, with the winner being the fellow who nearly suffocated while being dragged around the courtyard in a gunney sack full of dead chickens.

    Perhaps I could have used the experience for a multi-million dollar contract at Guantanamo. Dragging Muslims around in gunney sacks with dead piglets is surely worth… a think-tank contract? A few hundred thousand bucks in reparations? Or, gulp, a night on the town with Gina Haspert?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  23. Realist says:

    Government officials must be held accountable

    Yeah…how are you going to do that? They work for the Deep State, and they are in control.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes, TKK
  24. @bert33

    Jack Nicholson kind of said the same:

    • Agree: Bel Darrow
  25. Realist says:
    @anon

    The second amendment. The original and only homeland security.

    Yes, but currently undergoing destruction by the Deep State.

  26. Realist says:
    @emerging majority

    It all began with Allen Dulles, who was almost certainly complicit in the assassination of our last genuine American president, John Fitzgerald Kennedy in Dallas on 11-22-63. JFK had fired his ass for the Bay of Pigs fiasco and numerous other “incidents” such as the removal of the Prime Minister of Iran in 1953 on behalf of oil interests, most particularly the Rottenchild Crime Clan’s predecessor of British Petroleum.

    Very good…at least one on this blog knows the history of the CIA. Thank you.

    • Replies: @Thim
  27. There is another kind of psychological torture system of which very little is said, it is known as ‘gang stalking’ — personally I have lived for more than ten years under that kind of torture, I have denounced it in different places … I addressed this letter to pastors of different denominations and congregations, nobody answered, “they” did, running me over with a car ten days after I posted it on this website.
    Currently they have a unit probably from the FBI on top of my apartment in order to continue the psychological torture: banging on the ceiling, complemented with deafening noises of police and fire patrol cars, neighbors slamming doors, etc.
    Todo esto se consigue mediante la ‘colaboración’ que obtienen a traves de la masonería y las instituciones con la calumnia …

    https://gangstalkingmindcontrolcults.com/ti-statement-alfonso-romero/

    Alfonso Romero
    3500NW 18th Ave.
    Apt # 1101
    Miami Fla 33142

  28. All this is achieved through the ‘collaboration’ they get through Freemasonry and institutions with slander …

  29. “… some would surely accept the “ticking time bomb” exemption, where a detainee is withholding information that could save many lives.”

    Why would anyone believe the detainee was telling the truth? He could easily say a bomb was at the corner of Douglas and Danielovich while he’d actually planted it at Trotsky and Bronstein.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @Liberty Mike
  30. Jim H says:

    ‘That a government can use the “secrets privilege” to conceal and avoid any consequences when killing people without any due process is despicable.’ — Philip Giraldi

    Equally despicable is an \$84 billion intelligence black budget, whose dim outlines are known only to the Gang of Eight — a self-selected coterie nowhere authorized in the constitution.

    Meanwhile, 527 rank-and-file Kongress Klowns have no more clue what’s in the intelligence budget than lay people like ourselves.

    They might glimpse bits and pieces of the intel budget through the cracked lenses of the NY Slimes and the WaPo. But most of that ‘info’ will be tainted — planted by the agencies themselves via their mighty Wurlitzer, to distort and deceive.

    Secret government — and secretly-funded government — is inherently illegitimate. What the little haberdasher from Kansas City left behind when he made WW II intel agencies permanent fixtures of civilian life was a poison pill that has leached away the foundations of our republic.

    Violations of its charter by the US fedgov are so egregious and so comprehensive that it is a good candidate for total replacement, as suggested in a handwritten founding document from 1776. After all, the Supreme Court has rubber-stamped the worst of those violations, such as the state secrets doctrine. So the court is no bulwark against fedgov degeneracy.

    Carry on, Dr Giraldi.

  31. What i find amazing, disturbing even, is that someone who was essentially a librarian became this evil torturer in Thailand and then slipped into the CIA directorship. What the hell?

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  32. BL says:

    And then there is Donald Trump’s assassination of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani based on a lie that he was seeking to kill Americans.

    While I get the “A Pox on all their houses,” impulse, this conflation is pernicious and in the end self-defeating.

    The subject of torture following 9/11, or what was playfully referred to as “enhanced interrogation,” is too important.

    The “ticking bomb” is a red herring, at best. No spooks, or anyone else for that matter, would ever be exposed, let alone prosecuted, for giving someone ‘the third degree’ commensurate with the risk of harm.

    The question is who bears the burden. These sickening revelations of systematized torture, with no intelligible connection to governmental interest, demonstrate it must be borne by those who act.

    Then VP Cheney kicked this off by declaring publicly that “the gloves were off.” And then charging the government to figure out how to give everyone in the chain of command a pass in advance for whatever they did, under whatever pretext, as long as they claimed they did it to “keep us safe.”

    This last January 6th, Liz Cheney plopped one of her wigs on her father’s head and brought him to the House floor for rock star treatment by Democrats.

    Believe the official version or not, the most despicable and damaging lie was that 9/11 was the result of a naive failure to torture or otherwise take the gloves off.

    Consider what we would have thought of ‘Dirty Harry’ if he hadn’t tortured his suspect to try to save the girl. Or if he insisted his Gina Haspel boss watch so that he was safe as a kitten from prosecution.

    https://screenrant.com/dirty-harry-clint-eastwood-zodiac-scorpio-real-life-inspiration/

  33. Katrinka says:
    @Anonymous

    “Pure evil is like energy, it can never be created nor destroyed, only converted from one form to another.”

    That was a line used in the movie “The Amityville Horror”.

  34. @Chuck Orloski

    “ Lest we forget how Ray McGovern got trounced by the Capitol police during Haspel’s confirmation hearing.”

    And no public outrage for the despicable behavior of the four police officer goons who took their body muscles against a respected veteran of the CIA while telling him to stop resisting. And what was the 79 year old man’s infraction: just telling the committee to ask Haspel a direct question if she had been involved directly in torture.

    I very much doubt that the much maligned Fascist regimes under Hitler and Mussolini would have gone to such lows.

  35. @Anonymous

    “All of Hitler’s gang, tried and executed at Nuremberg, were obviously quickly reincarnated into the monsters now serving America’s vile “national interest” – More like unjustly tried and executed at Nuremberg. David Irving and others have written about Nuremberg’s show-trials.

    • Thanks: anarchyst, Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @goeshittheragman
  36. geokat62 says:

    I just looked up the Early Life section of Gina Haspel’s wiki entry. While identifying her father, it says absolutely nothing about her mother. Does anyone else find that strange?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Haspel

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @Republic
  37. Lysias says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    It’s mysterious that Trump appointed Haspel CIA director because she was station chief in London in 2016, when and where all the Russiagate plotting against Trump began.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  38. parshad says:

    US CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY in SYRIA
    And again… US occupation troops smuggle 55 oil tankers out of Syria’s Hasakah. These American thieves should be shot on the spot.
    The US army has smuggled a new convoy of tankers filled with Syrian oil from the northern Hasakah governorate, passing through the illegitimate Al-Mahmoudiya border crossing into Iraq.
    According to local reports on 4 July, 55 oil tankers were escorted out of Hasakah’s countryside by the US occupation forces. US troops and their proxy militia in northern Syria – the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) – are in control of most of the oil fields in Hasakah and Deir Ezzor governorates, and have been regularly smuggling Syrian oil out of the country to sell it abroad.
    The occupation troops have also been accused of stealing the country’s wheat supplies. On 18 June, a convoy of 40 trucks filled with Syrian wheat from the Al-Jazeera region was smuggled into US military bases in Iraq.On the same day, another convoy with 36 vehicles filled with stolen wheat crossed the Al-Waleed border from the Tal Hamis area.

  39. anarchyst says:

    In today’s America, and in many other parts of the world, the process is the punishment. Selective prosecution is a major problem in this country. BLM and Antifa types who have committed crimes are ignored while innocents who defend themselves (but are of the wrong political persuasion) are charged with crimes.
    Being charged with a crime, the indictment, the arraignment and trial are all a part of the punishment. Even if the case is dismissed, the damage, the difficult days, the threat of fines, incarceration and legal bills, and the uncertainty of what comes next are all punishments.
    Observe those who were arrested after the January 6, 2020 demonstrations—those who were purposely let in to the capitol and then arrested, days, weeks, and months after the event.
    Those who are presently incarcerated for the January 6, demonstrations are “special cases”–”political prisoners” who have been identified by their political enemies and prison staff and have been selected for “special treatment”.
    Even if their cases are dismissed, the damage has already been done. The time served, the harassment and brutality can never be “taken back”.
    This also extends to the likes of Kyle Rittenhouse, who is clearly observed on video defending his own life against rioters, who was “put through the legal wringer”–once again, the process being the punishment. Thankfully, he was acquitted by a competently-run legal system (in his case).
    The Memphis couple who were charged with “brandishing weapons” against the BLM and Antifa criminals who broke down a barrier and were trespassing on private property is but another example of selective prosecution. They were indicted on “weapons charges” for merely defending themselves.
    My third and final example of this is the “Satilla Three” who are languishing in prison for defending their lives and neighborhood against Ahmad Arbery, a career criminal who was “casing” construction sites for materials and tools that he could steal. In this case, the “powers that be” went “prosecutor shopping” when the initial prosecutor refused to indict. It took “four tries” before they found a prosecutor who would indict.
    It turns out that Arbery had “doubled back” and threatened the man with the shotgun, pulling on it causing it to fire. You see, Arbery had felt “disrespected”, and in his feral, simian way had to confront the man who had “disrespected” him. Arbery could have run off in any direction, but chose to confront the man with the shotgun. This was a clear case of self-defense, having been video taped as well. The trial was a fiasco, with a weak, incompetent judge, civil-rights hustlers and Arbery family members in the courtroom threatening riots if the “correct” verdict was not rendered. Requests for a change of venue and a sequestered jury were denied. Evidence showing Arbery’s previous criminal activity in the Satilla Shores neighborhood was also suppressed. It would seem that, with all of the legal and procedural misconduct, these three men should have good grounds for a successful appeal.
    Once again, the process is the punishment…something democRATs have been using to their advantage.

    • Agree: Fidelios Automata
  40. anon[560] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s official. Giraldi’s on our side, our side being humani generis. The sole vital interest of the CIA regime is impunity, and Phil just denounced it.

    The corollary of impunity is absolute sovereignty. A CIA command structure with impunity is not out of control, it’s in control. The government is CIA, because whoever you are CIA can kill you or torture you and get away with it. That’s why Putin, who meets with opposite numbers only, met with Burns.

    Impunity results in arbitrary conduct, which is not just illegal but actively destructive to the rule of law. Gina takes a ringside seat for torture cause she can. Arbitrary conduct is corrected by force. So the SCO took care to build a missile gap of hypersonic nonballistic platforms. To rid the world of CIA impunity vermin, it’s going to take unrestricted warfare and another Khabarovsk tribunal. Everybody better decide which side they’re on, the torture cowards or the world

  41. BAMA says:

    And for whom have we become such a barbaric nation? Surely, not for ourselves. Yes, nation.We accept our government’s vile misdeeds for decades on end without a peep. A nation that lies to itself now as a way of life.

    • Replies: @TheMoon
  42. parshad says:
    @RockaBoatus

    [How about all those congressional officials who went along with the lies and false impeachment claims surrounding Donald Trump?]

    You have NO credibility when you attack ONLY democrats and leave the illiterate Jewish mafia servant, Trump, an ASSASSIN, a thief stealing the Syrian oil and a traitor made \$billions of dollars using the ‘office’ protecting the jewish mafia members and their allies, the butcher MBS in Saudi Arabia and UAE out.
    He should be arrested and punish. All options are on the table. He laughs at gullible people who protect him. He is a fraud and only gullible people not able to recognize. Both Biden and Trump are traitors and have committed crimes against humanity.

    • Thanks: Katrinka
  43. Jimmy1969 says:

    During WW2 on the Russian front the SS and the NKVD went to work on each other in a manner unparalleled in military history. Many of the top NKVD guys were Jews, because of their foreign language abilities. Do you think anyone cared how many Germans they tortured? Were any of them or the ones running the East German secret services up until the early 90s ever prosecuted or dragged out of Israel? But Zionists are still chasing down 100 year old German men who were nothing during the War. Phil…you should also look into the Phoenix program too…it was quite a blood bath. And Phil if Israel was at stake, would those guys hesitate to employ torture against their Muslim friends….do they call them Sir in all of those prisons and camps over there? Why should the US worry about this stuff. Wait and see what will happen to our boys and girls if China defeats us some day…

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  44. JackOH says:
    @JoaoAlfaiate

    You’re right, I thought that was the objection to using torture as an interrogation tool. It was unreliable, and I’m pretty sure I’ve read a detailed examination of the subject from people who know more than I do. Stuff like: “The torturee has no knowledge of the ‘ticking time bomb’. The torturer does not know that. How much time does the torturer spend to extract information the torturee does not have? If the torturee falsely confesses, how many investigative resources will be expended to chase a false lead?”

    Torture as an instrument of state terror, where the extraction of information is collateral or secondary to the infliction of pain, seems to me a different kettle of fish.

    If our leaders approved torture as an instrument of American state terror, while deluding themselves for the sake of a bogus piety that they were thinking interrogation—we’re at a level of governmental self-delusion I can’t grasp.

    • Replies: @JoaoAlfaiate
  45. … some are zealots who are hell-bent on death and destruction and once thusly radicalized are human weapons on 2 legs, kind of like the terminator, only without the german accent and ability to survive gunfire largely unscathed.

    First step when you want to perform atrocities on someone: dehumanize them.

    So, again, what tools do you want uncle sam to have in his tool box to fight the good fight and win the day?

    Two things. First, how many times has Uncle Psycho’s activities been anything that a sane person could describe as “the good fight?” And, secondly, Uncle doesn’t just use his “toolbox” against furriners. If you imagine that a ferocious empire overseas will be a Bill-of-Rights-respecting, civilized thing domestically, think again. Have you noticed Rainbow Warrior Maximum Generalissimo Milley, the FBI, and so forth announcing that the Big Threat these days is “White supermacy?” You or I could end up in a torture box, explaining to guys in hoods that no, we’re really Good Americans. As much explaining as we have time for, in between pourings of water into that cloth covering nose and mouth.

    Or just go back to your teevee fantasies of gummint good guys being benevolent protectors. That’s easier than thinking, by a long way.

  46. vladimir says:

    The US is a terrorist state and destroyer of independent countries in the world.

  47. @RockaBoatus

    David Irving is coming out with a new book next year about our involvement in WWII. That should be a humdinger.

  48. @Lysias

    Hi Lysias!

    Trump was obligated to appoint Haspel, and this was part of his promise to Sheldon Adelson.

    Btw, Philip Giraldi and Brother Nathanael will be the first to enter a ZUS internment camp.

    • Agree: geokat62
  49. anarchyst says:
    @Jimmy1969

    The Nuremberg trials in which Germany’s leaders were prosecuted were run by vindictive jews who used the same tactics used to get Russia to go “bolshevik”.
    The torture that Nuremberg defendants went through as well as the suspension of “rules of evidence” are but two more examples of jewish bolshevik tactics which the USA allowed to take place without any objections.
    Today’s equivalent is the January 6 detainees who are undergoing the same treatment…suspension of the “rules of evidence” and torture at the hands of criminal jailers and a criminal congress.

    • Agree: HdC, Katrinka, CelestiaQuesta
  50. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Al-Nashiri was subjected to four months of waterboarding as well as to what have been described as “other coercive techniques” during his questioning in Thailand. According to testimony, the hooded interrogators repeatedly slammed al-Nashiri’s head into a wall and forced him naked into a small confinement box. When he briefly went on a hunger strike due to his treatment he was fed rectally. It is not known how frequently Gina Haspel, the senior officer in charge of the base, observed the torture, which she allegedly watched but did not participate in, but she drafted up the classified cables detailing what had occurred and what information had been developed. Oddly, al-Nashiri was freely answering the questions from the interrogators, who recommended that the extreme measures be stopped, but CIA Headquarters insisted that the torture continue in the belief that nothing is “true” until it is verified under torture. Rather than resigning to demonstrate her disagreement, Haspel allowed the process to continue, which is why in part some of her former Agency colleagues regularly refer to her as “Bloody Gina.”

    The Zionist sadomasochists who run the U.S. government — currently led by Catholic Joe “I am a Zionist” Biden — get their sadistic jollies off of torture. It doesn’t matter of its Islamofascists, Christofascists, or Goyimfascists, if there’s even a sniff of anti-Zionism, they’re on the job.

    How does a good Catholic like Joe “I am a Zionist” Biden become a kosher psychopath? It’s all about the thirty pieces of silver.

    • Replies: @René Fries
  51. Haspel should face the death penalty. Not that I have any sympathy for terrorists, but confessions obtained under torture are usual false and thus, more Americans die.

  52. nadim says:

    Victims of the the US crimes against humanity at Abu Gharaib, in 2003

    The story of an Iranian prisoner of Abu Gharaib, who was wrongfully arrested, imprisoned, interrogated, tortured, including WATERBOARDING. He was one of the prisoners whose photos were circulated online being naked facing American soldiers with attacking dogs, is screaming out of fear. He is Mr. Bolandian, an Iranian who made a pilgrimage to Karbala in Iraq, then was arrested, imprisoned and tortured at Abu Gharaib.
    He broke his silence after 19 years and this is his story where everyone should read to understand US is the biggest terrorist state in the history of mankind while accusing others selling FAKE ‘American democracy’ and ‘human rights’. to deceive world population including the American people.

    Human Rights: the United States and Western Style: By Mansoureh Tajik
    https://thesaker.is/human-rights-the-united-states-and-western-style/#comments

  53. @JoaoAlfaiate

    There is also the possibility that he planted the bomb at the intersection of Martin Luther King Boulevard and Malcolm X Avenue.

  54. Mr. Giraldi reported that the Iraq War is “regarded as the greatest foreign policy mistake since the 2nd World War.” Perhaps, but what about the Vietnam debacle as well as the flattening of North Korea, a war which still hasn’t ended?

    And the worst foreign mistake is yet to come with the brain-dead Biden Regime’s unhinged Ukraine aggression. Iraq didn’t have nuclear weapons, but Russia has more nukes than the US, as well as hypersonic weapons that are invulnerable to air defense. If US/NATO doesn’t back down from their insanity a wider war will be coming soon, perhaps to your neighborhood. It may be a question of who shoots off their nukes first.

  55. nadim says:

  56. “suspect Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, who has been accused of being complicit in the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000 that killed 17 American sailors.”

    Yet the people who bombed the USS Liberty (34 dead) in 1967 get a pass?

    In our modern bizzaro world, the D.C. regime is supplying HIMARS missile systems to Ukraine to presumably kill mass numbers of Russians and Donbass civilians. Yet, we expect the Russians to die without complaint or indignation.

    These double standards make the horrors worse.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  57. anon[275] • Disclaimer says:

    Here is the relevant law –

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-against-torture-and-other-cruel-inhuman-or-degrading

    not the bullshit CIA-redacted federal law but the supreme law of the land, irrevocable under the foundational continuity of obligations principle.

    Fun facts:
    – Nothing justifies torture. Stick your ticking time bomb up your ass.
    – Acquiescence to torture is a crime. Gina, Obama, Bush, Rumsfeld, all rendition-ready for the postwar tribunal.
    – When Gina She-Wolf of the SIS got a tit caught in the wringer, CIA forced Congress to decriminalize their two favorite crimes, outrages on human dignity and denial of the rights of trial, like say confessions coerced under torture.

  58. @beavertales

    No the Ukrainians can do better than those providing them with arms. The weapons are so accurate that they can be used without hurting civilians.

    • LOL: Che Guava
    • Troll: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  59. Notsofast says:
    @InnerCynic

    she may have been recruited for the job because of a pre-existing proclivity towards s and m, bondage, and torture (especially of men). she may have been a dominatrix from the beginning or she was walked into it assignment by assignment as she worked her way up the ladder.

    it seems every stage along the way she was going to be the fall “guy” if the shit ever hit the fan.

  60. JimDandy says:

    To the last Ukrainian! Huzzah!

    The shifting nature of the war in Ukraine has prompted a split among analysts and U.S. lawmakers, with some questioning whether American officials have portrayed the crisis in overly rosy terms while others say the government in Kyiv can win with more help from the West.Washington Post

    • Replies: @JoaoAlfaiate
  61. Republic says:
    @geokat62

    Probably due to some black spot,she probably had all birth records cleaned up.Hitler on gaining power in 1933 did the same thing with his Austrian birth records

  62. CSFurious says:

    I would amend the Constitution to limit any federal employee who obtains level GS-15 or higher to one decade of government service for life. That is a way of starting to “drain the swamp”.

    • LOL: RoatanBill
  63. Phibbs says:

    President Truman wrote in his diary that Jews are crueler and more ruthless than Nazis. Gina Haspel is a typical Jew. Coming in second for hatred and barbarity are evangelicals.

    • Agree: Jim H
  64. To all my colleague UNzers, please see below. Is about Bobby Fischer’s anti-Semitism. 😂

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/12/bobby-fischer-s-pathetic-endgame/302634/

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Kratoklastes
  65. nadim says:

    It is the time to destroy the Evil Empire and its extension the apartheid Israel.

    It is tragic and laughable to see the criminals at the US gov, USSC, are lyingagain to cover up another crime against humanity, the killing of Shireen Abu Akleh, a Palestinian-American, like those 3000 citizens who were massacred at 9/11 staged by US/Israel, to protect its client state, Israel.

    “the U.S. Security Coordinator (USSC)could not reach a definitive conclusion regarding the origin of the bullet that killed Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh. Ballistic experts determined the bullet was badly damaged, which prevented a clear conclusion.”

    A jewish mafia member, Mark Dubowitz, a terrorist from FDD a fifth column and an Israeli firster influencing US foreign policy for the interest of an Apartheid Israel, is using the lies of the USSC to accuse Iran, thousands of miles away from the CRIME scene.

    Mark Dubowitz
    @mdubowitz 23h
    Let’s be clear: Iran-backed Palestinian Islamic Jihad is responsible for the death of Shireen Abu Akleh. Terrorists murdered 19 Israeli civilians and committed war crimes by using Palestinian civilians as human shields.

    https://www.state.gov/on-the-killing-of-shireen-abu-akleh/

    United against the Evile Empire and its mad dog, the apartheid and terrorist state of Israel.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  66. Hello, my fellow UNzers!

    Dr. Giraldi is always in tune and always there for us.

    He has the courage to challenge international Jewry, including AIPAC and the numerous Jewish organizations in America.

    Is intelligent for him to have covered the State Department and CIA’s criminal torture activities around the world.

    Was great idea for Dr. Giraldi to write about enormous Jewish influence over America’s foreign and domestic policy.

    But now, we don’t want Phillip to be perceived in a rut by exclusively staying on Jewish subjects. Nonetheless, we need him to loosen the stranglehold of International Jewry.

    Btw, have written this to combat the Jewish hasbaras/Trolls who appear on the Unz Review. Does anyone here either agree or disagree with me?

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @geokat62
  67. @JimDandy

    Being an enemy of the United States can be dangerous, but being a friend is absolutely fatal….

    • Agree: JimDandy
  68. Jose says:

    Señor Giraldo, le escribo en español porque sé que lo habla y entiende, y pido disculpas al resto de lectores por no hacerlo en inglés.
    Dice usted ser Licenciado en Historia de Europa y sin embargo ha ido usted a escoger a Tomás de Torquemada para su artículo. Debe usted haberse tragado una buena dosis de Leyenda Negra española al haber estudiado su licenciatura en la pérfida Albión.
    Sepa usted que la Inquisición Española fue la menos lesiva de toda Europa, con aproximadamente 3000 ejecuciones en 350 años. Y la iglesia Católica no admitía como prueba válida una confesión obtenida mediante tortura. Las ejecuciones por brujería fueron anecdóticas y prácticamente inexistentes en España; a diferencia de, por ejemplo, Alemania en donde la histeria de la brujería ejecutó en la hoguera a más de 30000 en muy poco tiempo. Lea usted al hispanista Henry Kamen y estudie e investigue la Inquisición en Europa y, después, compare. Puede empezar en el Archivo de Salamanca: la Inquisición Española está documentada.
    Quizás después encuentre otros nombres que hubieran encajado mejor en su artículo. Por ejemplo Calvino y su reforma con la quema indiscriminada y sin juicio previo de católicos en Suiza. País, por cierto, cuya prosperidad radica en la sangre de sus naciones vecinas. O quizás Leopoldo II de Bélgica y su genocidio de negros en el Congo. Puedo seguir pero no terminaría nunca. Un saludo cordial.

  69. @emerging majority

    Actually it was FDR who started this mess with his provocations to Japan to get it to attack the US, which they did.

    Though FDR didn’t know it, Stalin was in on the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor by making peace with them in the east so they were free to do so. He didn’t give a wit if they attacked the US and was hoping they would.

    Meanwhile, FDR couldn’t do enough for Stalin and sent him everything he “demanded” under the rather dubious Lend-Lease program.

    It was under FDR that the OSS was created and its leadership became the forerunners to Truman’s CIA. However, to be fair, Truman never expected to the CIA to become any more than an information gathering agency.

    It wasn’t until 1950 with the publication of NSC-68 that the Deep State and all its cronies really got its start. And though Eisenhower railed against it in his “Farewell Address”, he did nothing during his 2 terms to mitigate its growing power.

    Only JFK stood up to this monstrosity and they assassinated “my president” for it. They should all hang…

    • Agree: Jim H, CelestiaQuesta
  70. TheMoon says:
    @BAMA

    Some of us peep quite a lot, but “muh conservatives” call us commies despite being so far to their right we’re over their horizon.

  71. geokat62 says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    To all my colleague UNzers, please see below. Is about Bobby Fischer’s anti-Semitism.

    Great read… thanks for sharing, Chuck.

    My favourite line:

    His assertion that Soviet communism was “basically a mask for Bolshevism, which is a mask for Judaism” elicited the most quizzical expressions.

    … it seems that Fischer wasn’t so “uncultured,” after all?

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
  72. Lysias says:

    To be fair, Nixon also tried to stand up to the monstrosity. He was lucky. They only Watergated him.

    Oliver Stone’s JFK is a fine movie. But I think his masterpiece is “Nixon”.

  73. Notsofast says:
    @nadim

    the difference in response between the murder of shireen abu akleh and that of jamal khashoggi is quite telling in and of itself. of course the fact that khashoggi was a c.i.a. asset might have something to do with it.

    the unending hubris and hypocrisy of western govt/media/military and so called intelligence will be it’s eventual downfall. maybe someday the rest of the mockingbird media will receive the khashoggi treatment.

  74. Team Obama and his supporters know that torture is illegal, but they don’t care so log as they are the ones in power and doing the torturing.

    Obama and Trump both got bipartisan support only when dripping bombs on poor countries who cannot fight back. Americans love killing poor brown people, especially if they get some oil from the deal. Trucks and SUVs, doncha know.

    The US is a Satanic, Evil Empire built on lies, death, chaos and slick propaganda that the sheeple lick up over and over, so nothing changes. Nuclear war, energy shortages and famine might wake them up eventually, but don’t hold your breath.

    • Agree: Jim H
  75. Che Guava says:

    I can’t see any point in adding my own words to the prev.

  76. Anglos are wussy scum cuck dogs of Jewish Master.

  77. Cohen says:

    Sadly enough all the criminals, either war criminals or lairs under oath war are walking freely and making money by lucrative consulting (revolving door) and above all being recognized and being invited by the public enemy “the media”. The anti war protesters would be better off protesting in front the houses of these war criminals instead of Washington monument.

    I loved that Indian student back in 2004 who shadowed George Allen than running for a Senate seat from Virginia with a very strong lead. The Democraps because of the Allen’s lead chose to abandon Jim Webb who was a democrap and far behing as “Nothing Burger”.

    Thanks to this Indian devoted activist who got George Allen on video making racist remarks about Indian as Macaca or Monkey. This was the year the idiot W was looking for a Senate majority to fulfill his dreams claiming those instructions came from god (W used to talked to god and got his foreign policy instructions). This hero Indian student made a history by exposing Senator Macaca who was caught red handed on tape. The activist never ever got a credit for his efforts.

    Two things: I ran into Senator Macaca at National Air port in DC (I still call it National airport) while waiting for a cab. Senator Macaca has some good sense of humor and was very friendly, the ordinary Joe.

    Also, when W was talking to god on matters pertaining to foreign policies, I also talked to god who denied that he ever talked to W.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  78. Lysias says:

    How can someone who claims to be a born-again Christian boast about lying, cheating, and stealing?

  79. chris says:

    Another recent story tells how the CIA was apparently planning to kill currently imprisoned journalist Julian Assange in London.

    I never fell for the official Russian poisoning of the Skripals story, but I did find it difficult to come up with an explanation for it. Until the story came out at the trial in Spain of the „security“ firm owner who was spying on Assange, that there had been discussions about kidnapping or poisoning him.

    What struck me was Pompeo‘s over-the-top reaction to the story, which seemed to confirm it more than anything else: „I can’t say much about this other than whoever those 30 people who allegedly spoke to one of these [Yahoo News] reporters — they should all be prosecuted for speaking about classified activity inside the Central Intelligence Agency,” Pompeo said.

    And so with that, the whole story makes a lot more sense for me, because either you believe that during much of 2017 the Trump administration was discussing kidnapping or poisoning Assange in the UK, and just as they’re busy coming up with a plan like that, by complete coincidence, Russian agents, in March of 2018, in front of their very noses, lightly poison their ex-colleague.

    Or, you view the Skripal as a false flag operation designed not to necessarily kill anyone, (though one woman was killed) but to firmly draw the connection between poisonings and the Russian government. What was then set to follow was Assange‘s actual poisoning, claiming that the Russians did it so that he wouldn’t spill the beans about their supposed 2016 cooperation.

    Which is more plausible?

    https://ph.news.yahoo.com/pompeo-sources-for-yahoo-news-wiki-leaks-report-should-all-be-prosecuted-234907037.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9lbmdpbmUucHJlc2VhcmNoLm9yZy9zZWFyY2g_cT1Qb21wZW8rbGVla3MrcHJvc2VjdXRlZCs&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC8j736S0n_1qIHMJN42F3QjEEo-xBPQ2W2eDPyx72Vn4NUkqKVvE1fiXVofiY7nvRFEtXxVPamKoF_RtJendBlw5CkeyEgTTKaMkqynDZd9hzHqLaFsXXdti5a5FbpdDH_l6VEMetckEZMhz3BzT4BWoiesiLxcFt4aTMhcCjFV

  80. Thim says:

    In the Filipino-American war waterboarding was called The Water Cure, and it was widely and routinely used on prisoners and on civilians.

  81. @Legba

    I’m pretty sure they don’t feed hunger strikers rectally.

    Do they not have web search engines where you live?

    CIA interrogators used rectal feedings to encourage prisoner compliance, report reveals gives accurate page cites to the Committee Study of the Central Intelligence Agency’s Detention and Interrogation Program (2014) by the US government’s own Select Committee on Intelligence (these are different from the page numbers of the Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture, which covers some of the same material.

    From p 115 (which is actually the 144th page of the linked PDF):

    Later that same day, Majid Khan’s “lunch tray,” consisting of hummus, pasta with sauce, nuts, and raisins, was “pureed” and rectally infused. Additional sessions of rectal feeding and hydration followed.

    Seriously bruh.

    It takes maybe 15 seconds to do a web search – and you don’t need to trust the reportage/stenography of NPR or PBS or NYT or Bezos’ Blog: it is possible to literally check the original documentary sources (which I always do, because I am a no-trust-having motherfucker).

  82. geokat62 says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    But now, we don’t want Phillip to be perceived in a rut by exclusively staying on Jewish subjects. Nonetheless, we need him to loosen the stranglehold of International Jewry.

    You’re right, Chuck.

    Phil has valiantly been spearheading the fight for restoring America’s sovereignty for several years, now. He was the first to do so vigorously and consistently that I gravitated to him seven years ago. He inspired others to follow his lead that there are now several courageous Americans who are willing to speak truth to power.

    We all owe him a debt of gratitude and we need to rally around him when the hyenas come nipping at his heals.

    Because as Benji once said… “We Must All Hang Together, or Most Assuredly, We Will All Hang Separately.”

    • Disagree: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Chuck Orloski
  83. Thim says:
    @Realist

    Realist…

    Kennedy was never a genuine President, not for one second. The Presidential election of 1960 was stolen from Nixon, particularly in the States of Texas and Illinois. And on top of being a fake President, Kennedy was a complete sleaze.

    • Agree: Che Guava
    • Replies: @Realist
  84. @parshad

    The Republicans, no doubt, have their own set of problems that deserve to be condemned too. And I agree that Zion-Don was no help to our people.

    Yet with that said, the Democratic Party deserves special condemnation due to its diabolical nature and tireless efforts to destroy America every chance it gets. At every point they are driving force (thanks to our Judeo-Bolshevik friends) behind the decline of our once great nation. The Republicans are STUPID, but the democrats are EVIL.

    • Replies: @parshad
  85. Legba says:

    It took me 15 seconds to tell that you are the Joey Chestnut of anal hot-dog eating

  86. @geokat62

    So sorry George but I actually totally agree with you, and THANKS!

    • Thanks: geokat62
  87. @Chuck Orloski

    You’ve got more stamina for pop-psych hogwash than I have; after about 5 paragraphs it was crystal clear that the entire piece was going to boil down to “anti-Semitism is prima facie evidence of mental illness“, which is cribbed out of the pre-Purge Bolshevik handbook. And of course he regurgitates the same trope when he brings up John Nash.

    It’s also clear that this Rene Chun guy managed to get a gig that paid by the word.

    • Troll: Chuck Orloski
  88. Renoman says:

    People are just cattle to the Murican Gummint, unless they are very rich and not even that is not a sure thing. Just an awful terrorist regime, worst anywhere.

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
  89. @Cohen

    W was talking to god on matters pertaining to foreign policies

    Well, as Thomas Szasz famously quipped: “If you talk to God, you are praying; If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia.”

    I also talked to god who denied that he ever talked to W.

    ruh-roh

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  90. While the illegitimate Biden administration and his sting pullers declare Trump supporters “white Supremacists and domestic terrorists”, how many of these targeted white Americans will be assassinated, murdered, killed in mysterious ways and blamed on street violence, when those responsible are hidden and protected under “state secret statute’s.

    There’s no hiding, they have your voting booth poll records and mail-in ballot records that identify every Trump voter.

    As for you Never Trump NeoCons here at UNZ and elsewhere, take a deep breath and ponder your future survival when they start coming after you. It was never about Trump, it was always about whitey, white working class voters they detest. Do you believe for one minute that those millions of refugees and cross border wetbacks are just coming here to have a better life?

    Replacement is a hard concept to comprehend and even harder to admit taking place.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  91. Anonymous[970] • Disclaimer says:
    @roonaldo

    Sophomore hazing: being a hyooge pussy is nothing to brag about.

    • Replies: @roonaldo
  92. @SafeNow

    A Belgian group that helps victims of torture noted, some years ago, that torture is useless for gaining information because the victim will say ANYTHING to stop the horror. Torture, they assert, is inflicted to INTIMIDATE populations, and to slake the ever growing sadistic appetites of the torturers.
    Perhaps the champions of protracted, widespread, torture of tens of thousands are those blessed Israelis ‘The Gaslight Unto Nations’. Decades of it, including of children. When the US invaded Iraq, the Zionazis, including eminent ‘Americans’ like Martin Seligman of ‘learned’ (really induced)helplessness’ infamy, were quick to offer their expertise at torturing Arabs and Moslems, with techniques including sexual humiliation and the use of dogs, gained through decades of torturing Palestinians and others, in places such as the infamous torture centre in Khiam in south Lebanon, to their Yankee ‘friends’. ‘Western Moral Values’ at their finest.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  93. Jimmy1969 says:

    Andresca Agassi has come back to Wimbledon with a skirt and a wig to win the Girls title defeating Giavonnia Mcenroe as they did not allow Russians

  94. anarchyst says:
    @Steve Naidamast

    Let’s not forget the “Office of Special Investigations”, a U S taxpayer-funded and jew-run hunting squad for WW2 Germans and other Europeans who administered and worked in the “work camps”.
    This agency is now known as the “Human Rights and Special Investigations Unit” of the U S “Justice” (actually (((just us))) Department.
    It figures prominently in holohoax prosecutions, even those of mistaken identity which never should have been prosecuted. Remember John Demajnjuk? Even the israeli supreme court exonerated him.
    Just what the hell is a jew-run holohoax hunting agency doing in MY country?

  95. parshad says:
    @RockaBoatus

    Respectfully Disagree. Don’t forget that 9/11 false flag operation designed and implemented by the Republican, Bush/Cheney – seven countries in 5 years, and the invasion of Afghanistan who has nothing to do with 9/11 terror started, then Iraq under the Republicans.
    I don’t see much difference only STYLE. Both parties fully cooperate and protect the apartheid state of Israel.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @RockaBoatus
    , @Richard B
  96. Jimmy1969 says:

    Phil you never write anything about Canada where my cousin is a professor up there…do we have any CIA assets up there…if push comes to shove and the Chinese attack us or if we run out of resources do we have a plan to take those virgins up there by walking over the border

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  97. @parshad

    We all know Biden and Trump don’t call the kill shots, it’s always the small hats in the background whispering in their ears, or else get JFK’d.
    What would you do?

  98. JWalters says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    When criminals capture the state, their crimes become “state secrets”.

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
  99. roonaldo says:
    @Anonymous

    Your ignorance is nothing to crow about.

    To its credit, the school district banned all hazing, due largely to the students subjected to the gunney sack dragging.

    A surprising number of people die or are subjected to sexual and other assaults in frat house, military, and sports team hazing.

    It seems a rather stupid practice to me, which must make me a wimp. Too bad for you that you couldn’t get into Yale–you’d have loved the Skull and Bones initiation.

  100. Realist says:
    @Thim

    And on top of being a fake President, Kennedy was a complete sleaze.

    Not even close to Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Bush I and II, Clinton, Obama, Trump, and Biden…to name the most recent.

  101. @parshad

    Well said, and I would agree with you on those points.

  102. In so many ways,

    Osama Ben Laden continues to be the big winner of September 11 attacks. The US is not broken, beyond repair, but we have a lot of work to do.

    It’s sad, very sad.

  103. TKK says:
    @SafeNow

    Anyone who uses the word “folks” raises my hackles and fires off my bulls*t smoke alarm.

    • Agree: SafeNow
  104. The news that former Donald Trump appointed CIA Director Gina Haspel during her tour overseeing a prison in Thailand in 2002 personally observed at least one terrorist suspect being tortured by waterboarding, which simulates being drowned repeatedly until a confession is obtained.

    Back in 2016 Trump’s loud support of torture was one of three specific reasons I didn’t vote for him. Torture is both a crime and (IMO) a sin, and any supporter of the practice is a horrible person. Being apparently less bad than Hillary on some other issues wasn’t nearly enough to overcome Trump’s criminal attitudes.

    Mr. Giraldi deserves a lot of credit for keeping the torture issue from being totally disappeared.

  105. @Steve Naidamast

    Oh, no doubt that FDR deliberately goaded Japan into Pearl Harbor. He was desperate to pull Britain’s chestnuts outta the fire and furthermore the likes of Frankfurter, Baruch and Morgenthau had him by the short hairs as well.

    The rot goes deeper though, when in 1913 the Blackmailed Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act and then deliberately got us into the World War, when he had just used the campaign slogan: “He kept us out of the War”.

    JFK was indeed an outlier amongst generally controlled American presidents.

  106. @JWalters

    Excellent line. May I “counter” with “When machines count the votes, voters’ votes don’t count.”

  107. JR Foley says:
    @Jimmy1969

    CIA had guys dropping LSD at McGill Univerity 1960’s and they were looking for UFO’s up there in the 1950’s but today—-most CIA action is on the gay and lesbian-trans front—learning firsthand how a great nation works under the heel of a jackboot and true dough–!!

  108. @JWalters

    It is only criminals who always, and desperately, want to capture the state. And they succeed more frequently than we realize. But then we are in a dilemma. A modern society needs many services in the public domain, and that means the state will have its fingers in many pies. That increases the necessity and desperation of the criminal class to capture the state, both to loot the public wealth, and to cover up its crimes. The United States tried to privatize its services, and the results are even more horrible – a spying private sector, banning from public spaces without responsibility, even preventing a dissident from essential services like money transfer, etc. If you keep the services in public domain, then government employees loot it, if you privatize it then the corporate thugs wield power without corresponding responsibility…

    American founding fathers invented a solution – minimal government, with individual’s rights assured; it became so successful that the country was prosperous beyond belief; but they did not foresee the threat of the oligarchs.

    In the US, oligarchs have conquered the government; in Russia and China, demagogues have prevailed over the oligarchs. Lets see which model is more successful. However, both models leave the common man at the mercy of the rulers.

  109. @Wizard of Oz

    The Ukronazis are bombarding Donetsk, killing numerous civilians, as they have done since 2014, murdering 15,000. You are an apologist for THAT!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  110. Sparkon says:

    Well, I can’t let the occasion pass without saying a few words about soggy ol’ scapegoat Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who has somehow escaped mention here even though by some accounts he is the world’s all-time waterboarding champion, reportedly having endured that particular form of torture no less than 183 times, along with sleep deprivation, “rectal rehydration,” and questioning by “an unusual number of female handlers.”

    Imagine that.

    Of course, the convenient outcome of this unusual torture is that KSM has confessed to over 30 major crimes, including being the mastermind of 9/11, which was announced to the press in rather abrupt fashion by White House Press Secretary Dana Perino on Sept. 10, 2008, countering a reporter who’d called Osama bin Laden the mastermind of 9/11.

    “No, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind of 9/11, and he’s sitting in jail right now. ”

    https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/09/20080910-1.html

    KSM’s story is all the more remarkable in light of an article by Syed Saleem Shahzad in the Asia Times which reported on Oct. 30, 2002 that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, “self-proclaimed head of al-Qaeda’s military committee,” had been killed in a bloody gun battle with Pakistani security forces in Karachi on the first anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

    Despite that setback, KSM apparently bounced back from his death in Karachi, and went to work getting waterboarded and anally hosed by the CIA at Guantanamo.

    Now, hold that thought, but for those of a more literary bent, in Fyodor Dostoevsky’s famous novel Crime and Punishment, antihero Rodion Raskolnikov is plagued by several hundred pages worth of guilt, before he finally confesses to his crime, but gets off rather easily with just 8 years in Siberia for the axe murders of two women.

    Some punishment! The unsatisfying conclusion to this novel is more like something I’d expect from a hack Hollywood script writer.

    But that is the beginning of a new story—the story of the gradual renewal of a man, the story of his gradual regeneration, of his passing from one world into another, of his initiation into a new unknown life. That might be the subject of a new story, but our present story is ended.

    https://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/182/crime-and-punishment/3433/epilogue/

    And so Rodion and Sonia rode off into the Siberian penal camp sunset.

    Now finally, back to KSM and recent news from Guantanamo…

    Prosecutors and defense attorneys are negotiating potential plea agreements for the five Guantánamo Bay prisoners charged in the long-delayed 9/11 trial, attorneys for one of the defendants said Tuesday.

    If successful, the plea negotiations, first reported by the New York Times, could yield a workaround to a 14-year-long, unsuccessful effort to prosecute men the U.S. government has implicated in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

    […]

    “At the heart of the commissions’ problems is their original sin, torture,” John G. Baker, the Marine Corps brigadier general who served as the chief defense counsel of the Military Commissions Defense Organization, testified in December before the Senate Judiciary Committee. “The United States chose to secretly detain and torture the men it now seeks to punish.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/16/guantanamo-plea-sept-11/

    [my bold]

    Your unsatisfying conclusions may vary…

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  111. @CelestiaQuesta

    white working class voters they detest

    What’s not to detest in a white working class voter? They are the majority voting block that keeps the current system alive. If they, as a block, stopped voting, the voting system would be shown up as the scam it is.

    TPTsB love the white working class voter. They desperately need white working class voters to come out in numbers to legitimize the con known as elections. They know they’re low IQ by continuing to do the same thing time after time and expecting a different result. TPTsB don’t care who gets their vote as long as they vote to keep the theater of bullshit democracy going.

    If people don’t know by now that every election is rigged, then they’re just stupid. The very process the party system openly advertises as the method to select candidates is fraudulent from the get go and yet people, especially white working class people keep participating in what is their own extinction.

    You can’t fix stupid
    Ron White

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  112. @mulga mumblebrain

    He prefers dead Russians to dead Nazis.

  113. anon[132] • Disclaimer says:

    The way it works, the UN member nations make the rules, and if CIA keeps breaking the rules, then there is the Mitrione procedure, or the Buckley protocol, or the D’Andrea clause.

    Gina’s buckin for all three.

  114. Alrenous says: • Website
    @RockaBoatus

    When you create a no-trust society via multiracialism and multiculturalism

    Option 1: it was already a no-trust society.
    Option 2: Americans wanted to resist but are much weaker than e.g. the Amish, and should be serfs, not voters. Irresponsible non-adults.

    At one point America was an Anglo-German nation. When USG decided to change that, Americans whined a bit but mainly just let them. The society had already been destroyed, it was merely a question of how exactly the symptoms would manifest.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  115. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Kratoklastes

    If your god never talks to you what you have is Satanism; you are praying to a false idol.

  116. geokat62 says:
    @Alrenous

    Option 1: it was already a no-trust society.
    Option 2: Americans wanted to resist but are much weaker…

    Option 3: read The Culture of Critique

    • LOL: Alrenous
  117. @Old Brown Fool

    Boris Berezovsky, the leading Russian Oilygarch during the Yeltsin breakdown years, was on the verge of taking over the country, but was opposed by the suspicions of Primakov. That gentleman was correct in his suspicions as Berezovsky was not only a dual citizen (Israel, dontcha know) but was also the leading grifter in the country, having made off with billions.

    In order to get Primakov off his tail, Berezovsky convinced Yeltsin (who could not run again) to appoint someone else instead of his crime-dog enemy. So Yeltsin acquiesed to suggestions that he nominate then then quite unknown V.V. Putin to the presidency of Russia. Shortly after Putin took office, Berezovsky could no longer barge in to see the president, but needed to ask permission first. Ultimately, the chief oligarch took the message and fled to England, where he ultimately suicided in 2013.

    Though he sold out his country many ways in his drunken stupor, Yeltsin must have been sober when he decided to back Putin. That action saved Russia from total domination by the enemies of humanity, Israel, the Rottenchild Crime Clan and the Sanhedrin’s Babylonian Talmudist agenda of total world domination by the Khazarian Mafiya.

    Yes, a higher-power must have whispered in Yeltsin’s ear. Without Russia getting that new leader, there is little doubt that the scheme for their New World Order would be fully emplaced by now and everyone in the world would be existing in a dystopia of total slavery.

    • Agree: geokat62, Old Brown Fool
    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  118. @CelestiaQuesta

    I agree wholeheartedly, yet behind the vail of government with their lips dripping of “white supremacists and domestic terrorists”, they still detest whitey, even as they use, abuse and accuse us for supporting the fraud.
    Thanks for all your well informed and enlightened comments.

  119. geokat62 says:

    ‘Dancing’ Israelis and FBI Operation Stow Biz

    While many are familiar with the Dancing Israelis, I bet few are familiar with the FBI Operation, Stow Biz.

    You’ll be shocked to learn how special the “special relationship” is.

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  120. Derer says:
    @Ghali

    “non-Jewish Americans” is a very clumsy expression, giving the fake appearance of a peripheral group and prevailing for its antonym.

  121. @geokat62

    Thanks for spreading the word, George!

    • Thanks: geokat62
  122. “Government officials must be held accountable”

    He, he, haw, haw, huk, he, he, hey… git’ yar dumb ass outta’ here will’ya!!

    Never happens. Or more to the point, it never happens in high level corruption cases. The low-level smucks will sometimes get it in the head, but Government officials in high places… fugged’ about it.

    Unless of course, they are independent thinking libertarians or outspoken conservatives, then they may get the whole nine yards of Government feces thrown at them. That’s just the rule of Law.

    Government bureaucrats and mainstream media today, operate mostly like the worlds oldest profession… Gina Haspel will as such not suffer any inconvenience for this, ever!

  123. Some more of Brother Nathanael’s comical intelligence

    https://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1544

  124. c matt says:

    The only time leaders pay for their crimes is when they lose a war and are conquered. Then, as part of the cleanup process, the conquered leaders are “tried” and executed. For the most part, they probably deserve it. Unfortunately, the conquerors are just as guilty, but having won, they escape. Too bad they can’t all lose.

  125. @RockaBoatus

    The “no trust society” is the eventual product of government having monopoly control over a given area: a nation.

    Primitive people want or need government, civilized people don’t.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  126. “We are a government of laws, and not of men.”

    Bullshit. If you believe that, get back to your “Civics for Suckers” textbook.

    Laws don’t enforce themselves. They require enforcement–impartial enforcement by honest, let-the-chips-fall-where-they-may prosecutors. Needless to say, nothing like this exists in Washington, Di\$trict of Corruption. . . .

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  127. Anonymous[907] • Disclaimer says:

    GREAT IDEA, Sir,
    Lets start at the top for a change. Biden.
    Tucker Carlson lays out the Demented One, not just for being stupid and incompetent,
    which most all know to be a fact, but for his Criminal Impeachable actions!!

  128. @emerging majority

    True; the way V V Putin was selected, and his very adroit management of the situation – if he had openly opposed the kleptocrats in 2001, he would have been suicided at best – eventual capture of great power, convincing the people of his intentions, all show a streak of intervention of something above the normal human agency. Mother Russia is indeed lucky.

  129. @Drapetomaniac

    The EXACT opposite of the truth. A libertarian State would be a free-for-some for the predators, which is what libertarianism really means. ‘Everything for me and nothing for anyone else’. Misanthropy as a religion.

  130. @Chuck Orloski

    Good! The Russians can exterminate them in Ukraine. I do hope there are lots of Uighurs, but I suspect they are in Afghanistan already.

    • Agree: Chuck Orloski
  131. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    Mussolini’s fate comes to mind

  132. Sparkon says:

    Hey Chuck! I really don’t know beyond the usual suspects, Sam, Shlomo, Recep and BoJo, but it would be very interesting to learn who is arranging transportation for the terrorists from Syria to Ukraine.

    Maybe Uncle Sam or NATO/OTAN has set up an air shuttle for them.

    Otherwise, it seems unlikely, but perhaps the rent-a-thugs are driving their tan Toyota pick-up trucks into and across Turkey, thence through Bulgaria and across Romania before entering Ukraine.

    Psst. As part of the plan, the Toyotas could be serviced while in transit at the Turkish dealerships where they were originally purchased.

  133. camus10 says:

    Giraldi et al at the CNI deserve our loyal support. attacking the d-state is no casual matter

    there is no better hour than now to gather a Commonlawcore group and meet as a grand jury. the fish head has to be sheared. prepare a no bs door prize for sneakers

    Please notify EPM, Bni my peers, trusted friends where and when to meet. 2169381176

  134. @Old Brown Fool

    First, legislate that a corporation is not a person, has no human rights, no right to own shares in itself or any other corporation.

    Next, start wide divestment. Go back to a world where the human rights of corporations had never existed. There will be no giant corporations.

    • Agree: emerging majority
  135. @mulga mumblebrain

    Balderdash. Libertarians and anarchists don’t consider other people or other people’s property to be theirs. Animals don’t have a concept of others’ property and neither do most people. That is why civilization is NEVER civilized – it is the animal world populated by clever tool using primate animals.

    Without the legalized crime syndcates called government the almost civilized of society would outnumber the amateur criminals remaining by about 50 or 100 to one. At that point it becomes much easier to remove or eliminate any criminals*.

    There are about 8,000,000,000 people on Earth. There isn’t any reason to be nice to criminals since they are not nice to others. It is really the only way to become civilized.

    *Those who think that other people or other people’s property is their property to do with as they wish.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  136. @mulga mumblebrain

    “Everything for me and nothing for anyone else”

    Wrong. Everything you earn or you make is yours and no one else’s. The negation of animal world behaviors.

    In case you haven’t noticed, your description is appropos of the uiltimate goal of all governments, whether they start with that goal or not.

  137. @RockaBoatus

    Shinzo Abe — his grandfather was toady under Tojo–au revoir !!

  138. Richard B says:
    @parshad

    Both parties fully cooperate and protect the apartheid state of Israel.

    Yep.

    The DNC + The RNC = The Jewish Party

    Or, to be more precise, Jewish Supremacy Inc.

  139. @Drapetomaniac

    The legalised crime syndicates are corporations and businesses, who, under capitalism, own and control politics. Outside ‘the law’ they are known as Mafias, just another term for ‘free enterprise’. Property is theft, theft from others, theft from the natural world, theft from future generations, and theft from oneself, a life wasted in penny-pinching effort, or in rank blood-sucking. The original sin is greed, as Aristotle and others noted, and they described it as ‘insatiable’. Bang on the money.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  140. geokat62 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Property is theft, theft from others, theft from the natural world, theft from future generations, and theft from oneself, a life wasted in penny-pinching effort, or in rank blood-sucking. The original sin is greed, as Aristotle and others noted, and they described it as ‘insatiable.’

    Aristotle was also an advocate of private property, however:

    “How immeasurably greater is the pleasure, when a man feels a thing to be his own … And further, there is the greatest pleasure in doing a kindness or service to friend and guests or companions, which can only be rendered when a man has private property. The advantage is lost by the excessive unification of the State.”

    https://fee.org/articles/aristotle-understood-the-importance-of-property/

    • Disagree: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @emerging majority
  141. @geokat62

    Private property is fine and good…so long as it does not become an overweening mania and an unshakable fixation.

    Who actually needs five mansions, a Gulfstream jet fleet and 350 foot yachts…along with a few dozen congress-critters and a bevy of media glitterati?

    Aristotle, though, is not to be taken too seriously. He was third in line of an “Apostolic Succession” of major Hellenic philosophers and was far overshadowed by Socrates and Plato.

    Aristotle was the forerunner of those bloody rationalistic materialists. His spirit did not match his intellect. His visionary powers were mundane, relative to his two predecessors.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  142. anarchyst says:

    The last three commenter’s posts expose their bolshevik communist roots.
    A good example of the “tragedy of the commons” (something that is not taught in schools today) is that of environmentalism.
    Communist societies have the worst environmental records because “nobody owns anything” so it is “nobody’s problem”. Hence, the gross pollution continues in bolshevik communist countries.
    Although capitalism’s record was not perfect when it comes to pollution, capitalist societies have made great strides in cleaning up the environment.
    Private property has a lot to do with it, as ownership generally demands that the owners care for and maintain their property.
    The first white settlers in the “new world” tried the communist way (the “tragedy of the commons” which failed miserably). It is only when settlers were given their own private plots of land that incentive to care for and improve one’s lot was achieved.
    One major mistake in capitalists was inferring “personhood” on corporations, something which should be abolished. This “personhood” along with the ability to gain and effect political clout above and beyond that of ordinary real persons.

    • Agree: Drapetomaniac
    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
  143. geokat62 says:
    @emerging majority

    Private property is fine and good…so long as it does not become an overweening mania and an unshakable fixation.

    Quote from the same article:

    For Aristotle, the appropriate behavior is the “golden mean,” that is, the avoidance of “extreme” or unrealistic goals or conduct in the affairs of men.

  144. So you know corporations (and unions) are creations of government? Businesses should be sole proprietorships or partenerships of individuals. Fck corporations.

    Government is a weapon that is invariably used for doing evil in a society. Probably 300 million or more deaths at the hands of government in the 20th century and hundreds of triliions in wealth stolen or destroyed.

    My suggestion to you is to go live in the animal world with your kind. You know, red in tooth and claw.

    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
  145. @anarchyst

    Capitalists are not a monolithic group. In nature and in a competitive economic evironment, control is a powerful survival mechanism. Government greatly enables control and like in nature, increases survival. There will be those who use government for it.

  146. MEexpert says:

    And they might suggest a bit of retrospection from their friends George Bush, Doug Feith, Scooter Libby, and Condi Rice, all of whom have been complicit in the same infamy.

    Dr. Giraldi left out the bigger criminals; Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. George Bush was just a Cheney stooge. Cheney and Rumsfeld were the mastermind of the Iraq war.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  147. @MEexpert

    No, no, MEexpert!

    Dr. Giraldi didn’t spare any ZUS criminals.

    Cheney and Rumsfeld were merely carrying out their orders from the top of the International Jew pyramid.
    In all likelihood the Rothschild family are at the top.

    Btw, Ron Unz wrote extensively on this matter, but he doesn’t believe Cheney & Rumsfeld had anything to do with 9/11. Nonetheless, I believe Ron’s misleading himself.

  148. @Chris Moore

    a good Catholic like Joe

    Hitler also was “a good Catholic” but as psychopath, he certainly was not kosher.

  149. JR Foley says:

    “Then why don’t you tell us how a good Samaritan with a gun shot killed the shooter at Greenwood Park Mall. Thank God for the second amendment, otherwise this criminal would still get a gun and would have killed more”

    Second Amendment more important than the First Commandment !!!

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