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The twentieth anniversary of 9/11 last Saturday has raised many of the usual issues about what actually happened on that day. Were hijacked airliners actually crashed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or was the damage in New York City attributable to explosives or even some kind of nuclear device? These are fundamental questions and the so-called “Truthers” who raise them have been inspired by their reading of the 585 page 9/11 Report, which is most charitably described as incomplete, though many would reasonably call it a government cover-up.

I have long believed that unless one actually sees or experiences something first hand the description of any event is no better than hearsay. The closest I came to “seeing” 9/11 was the panicked evacuation of a CIA office building, where I was working at the time. Another related bit of 9/11 narrative also came from two close friends who were driving into work at the Pentagon when they each independently observed what appeared to be a large plane passing over their cars and striking the building. I consider the sources credible but was it an airplane or a missile? And I was not there to see it with my own eyes, so I am reluctant to claim that my friends actually saw something that in retrospect might have been misconstrued.

Critics of the physical and engineering aspects of the accepted narrative certainly have a great deal of expert evidence that supports their case. The way the towers fell as well as the collapse of Building 7 nearby are suggestive of something other than the impact of an airliner near the top of the structure, but I am no expert in the science of the matter and have avoided expressing a view regarding it.

Apart from what happened, I have always been more intrigued by “Who done it?” I found the 9/11 Report to be conspicuously lacking in its failure to cover possible foreign involvement, to include the Saudis, Pakistanis and the Israelis. Indeed, President Joe Biden has taken steps that have resulted in the declassification and release of 16 pages of the notorious 28-page redaction of documents relating to any possible Saudi role. The document consists of interviews with Saudi student Omar al-Bayoumi, who reportedly helped support several hijackers.

The Saudis are being sued by 9/11 survivors, but it is unlikely that anything really sensitive will ever be exposed, as explained by investigative journalist Jim Bovard. Indeed, the documents released last Saturday did not demonstrate that the Saudi government itself played any direct role in 9/11, though it is clear that wealthy Saudis and even members of the Royal Family had been supporting and funding al-Qaeda. It is also known that that Saudi Embassy and Consulate employees in the U.S. had funded the alleged hijackers.

Friends who were in CIA’s Counterterrorism Center at the time of 9/11 tend to believe that the Saudis were indeed supporting their fellow citizens while in the U.S. but were likely not knowledgeable regarding any terrorist plot. They observed, however, that there was considerable evidence that Israel knew in advance about what was impending and may have even been instrumental in making sure that it succeeded.

The evidence of Israeli involvement is substantial, based on the level of the Jewish state’s espionage operations in the U.S. and also its track record on so-called covert actions simulating terrorist attacks designed to influence political decision making in foreign countries. But, of course, in reporting on the 9/11 tragedy no one in the mainstream media did pick up on the connection, inhibited no doubt by the understanding that there are some things that one just does not write about Israel if one hopes to remain employed. That is true in spite of the fact that the Israeli angle to 9/11 is without a doubt a good story, consigned to the alternative media, where it can be marginalized by critics as a conspiracy theory or the product of anti-Semitism.

In the year 2001 Israel was running a massive spying operation directed against Muslims either resident or traveling in the United States. The operation included the creation of a number of cover companies in New Jersey, Florida and also on the west coast that served as spying mechanisms for Mossad officers. The effort was supported by the Mossad Station in Washington DC and included a large number of volunteers, the so-called “art students” who traveled around the U.S. selling various products at malls and outdoor markets. The FBI was aware of the numerous Israeli students who were routinely overstaying their visas but they were regarded as a minor nuisance and were normally left to the tender mercies of the inspectors at the Bureau of Customs and Immigration.

The Israelis were also running more sophisticated intelligence operations inside the United States, many of which were focused on Washington’s military capabilities and intentions. Some specialized intelligence units concentrated on obtaining military and dual use technology. It was also known that Israeli spies had penetrated the phone systems of the U.S. government, to include those at the White House.

All of that came into focus on September 11, 2001, when a New Jersey housewife saw something from the window of her apartment building, which overlooked the World Trade Center. She watched as the buildings burned and crumbled but also noted something strange. Three young men were kneeling on the roof of a white transit van parked by the water’s edge, making a movie in which they featured themselves high fiving and laughing in front of the catastrophic scene unfolding behind them. The woman wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police, who responded quickly and soon both the local force and the FBI began looking for the vehicle, which was subsequently seen by other witnesses in various locations along the New Jersey waterfront, its occupants “celebrating and filming.”

The license plate number revealed that the van belonged to a New Jersey registered company called Urban Moving Systems. The van was identified and pulled over. Five men between the ages of 22 and 27 years old emerged to be detained at gunpoint and handcuffed. They were all Israelis. One of them had \$4,700 in cash hidden in his sock and another had two foreign passports. Bomb sniffing dogs reacted to the smell of explosives in the van.

According to the initial police report, the driver identified as Sivan Kurzberg, stated “We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.” The five men were detained at the Bergen County jail in New Jersey before being transferred the FBI’s Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which handles allegations of spying.

After the arrest, the FBI obtained a warrant to search Urban Moving System’s Weehawken, NJ, offices. Papers and computers were seized. The company owner Dominick Suter, also an Israeli, answered FBI questions but when a follow-up interview was set up a few days later it was learned that he had fled the country for Israel, putting both his business and home up for sale. It was later learned that Suter has been associated with at least fourteen businesses in the United States, mostly in New Jersey and New York but also in Florida.

The five Israelis were held in Brooklyn, initially on charges relating to visa fraud. FBI interrogators questioned them for more than two months. Several were held in solitary confinement so they could not communicate with each other and two of them were given repeated polygraph exams, which they failed when claiming that they were nothing more than students working summer jobs. The two men that the FBI focused on most intensively were believed to be Mossad staff officers and the other three were volunteers helping with surveillance. Interestingly, photo evidence demonstrated that they had been seen “casing” the area where they were seen celebrating on the day before, indicating that they had prior knowledge of the attack.

The Israelis were not exactly cooperative, but the FBI concluded from documents obtained at their office in Weehawken that they had been targeting Arabs in New York and New Jersey. The FBI concluded that there was a distinct possibility that the Israelis had actually monitored the activities of at least two of the alleged 9/11 hijackers while the cover companies and intelligence personnel often intersected with locations frequented by the Saudis.

The dots were apparently never connected by investigators. Police records in New Jersey and New York where the men were held have disappeared and FBI interrogation reports are inaccessible. Media coverage of the case also died, though the five were referred to in the press as the “dancing Israelis” and by some, more disparagingly, as the “dancing Shlomos.”

Inevitably, the George W. Bush White House intervened. After 71 days in detention, the five Israelis were inexplicably released from prison, put on a plane, and deported. One should also recall that when the news of 9/11 reached Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was pleased, saying that “It’s very good. Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.” It will “strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we’ve experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.” And, of course, it was conveniently attributable to Israel’s enemies.

The possible role of Israel in 9/11 was first explored in book form in 2003 by Antiwar.com editorial director Justin Raimondo in his The Terror Enigma, a short book focusing on Israeli spying and inconsistencies in the narrative that bore the provocative subtitle “9/11 and the Israeli Connection.”

Currently, the twentieth anniversary of 9/11 has inspired some others to take another look at the possible Israeli role. Ron Unz has recently completed an exhaustive examination of the evidence. He observes that 9/11 and its aftermath have shaped “the last two decades, greatly changing the daily lives and liberties of most ordinary Americans.” He asks “What organized group would have been sufficiently powerful and daring to carry off an attack of such vast scale against the central heart of the world’s sole superpower? And how were they possibly able to orchestrate such a massively effective media and political cover-up, even enlisting the participation of the U.S. government itself?”

Ron Unz answers his question, concluding that there is “a strong, perhaps even overwhelming case that the Israeli Mossad together with its American collaborators played the central role” in the attack. His argument is based on the noted inconsistencies in the standard narrative, plus an examination of the history of Israeli false flag and mass terrorism attacks. It also includes new information gleaned from Israeli journalist Ronen Bergman’s recent book Rise and Kill First: the Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations.

To a certain extent, Unz relies on a detailed investigative article written by French journalist Laurent Guyenot in 2018 as well as on an argument made by an ex-Marine and former instructor at the U.S. Army War College Alan Sabrosky in an article where he records how “Many years ago I read a fascinating discussion of the ‘tactics of mistake.’ This essentially entailed using a target’s prejudices and preconceptions to mislead them as to the origin and intent of the attack, entrapping them in a tactical situation that later worked to the attacker’s strategic advantage. This is what unfolded in the 9/11 attacks that led us into the matrix of wars and conflicts, present (Afghanistan and Iraq), planned (Iran and Syria) and projected (Jordan and Egypt), that benefit Israel and no other country — although I concede that many private contractors and politicians are doing very well for themselves out of the death and misery of others. I am also absolutely certain as a strategic analyst that 9/11 itself, from which all else flows, was a classic Mossad-orchestrated operation. But Mossad did not do it alone. They needed local help within America (and perhaps elsewhere) and they had it, principally from some alumni of PNAC (the misnamed Project for a New American Century) and their affiliates within and outside of the U.S. Government (USG), who in the 9/11 attacks got the ‘catalytic event’ they needed and craved to take the U.S. to war on Israel’s behalf…”

Economist and author Paul Craig Roberts has also been motivated by the anniversary to review the evidence and concludes “Circumstantial evidence suggests that 9/11 was a scheme of George W. Bush regime neoconservative officials allied with vice president Dick Cheney and Israel to create a ‘new Pearl Harbor’ that would generate support on the part of the American people and Washington’s European allies for a Middle Eastern ‘war on terror’ whose real purpose was to destroy Israel’s enemies in the interest of Greater Israel… This is the most plausible explanation, but, if true, it is not one that the U.S. and Israeli governments would ever acknowledge. Consequently, we are stuck with an official explanation long championed by the presstitutes that no one believes.”

Yes, an implausible explanation that no one really believes for the greatest national security disaster in America’s twenty-first century. And Israel gets yet another pass.

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D. is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Mulegino1 says:

    It’s pretty clear “who did it.”

    Israeli operatives, mega-rich hyper-Zionist Israel supporters in New York City, along with various and sundry traitors in the Bush-Cheney Administration, centered around the neocon PNAC group and the VP’s Office of Special Plans , and the deep state financial beneficiaries of the attacks.

    Saudi Arabia may have played an ancillary role in financing the fake hijacker legends, but not a clear motive; the release of the “de-classified” documents pointing to Saudi involvement, however peripheral, may be due to the fact that KSA has recently purchased, or evinced a desire to purchase weapons from Russia- certainly considered a major crime in the Beltway bubble.

    • Agree: Rurik, moi
    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  2. Notsofast says:

    have to agree with drs. giraldi and roberts on this, there is no way this could have happened without the active participation of the neocons in the whitehouse and their pnac accomplices. neocon=zionist, plain and simple. now that the neocons control both political parties the official narrative can never be challenged without being banished to the hinterland of the internet by the mockingbird media and the gatekeeper social media platforms and search engines.

  3. Phil Giraldi,
    You seem to be a very persistent critique of the security apparatus and I respect that, however this is too much to ask though! After so many years passing by, longer than a half century ago, we’ve yet to know who killed JFK! Mathematically speaking for killing 3000 souls in 9/11, many of the future generations may not be told “who done it” either!
    When there’s a good excuse on hand to blame and attack others why give it up?

  4. R.C. says:

    As my engineer Mum said the moment I showed her a video of WTC-7, “That’s preposterous. Skyscrapers don’t fall down and go ‘boom’.”
    Common sense is all it should take at this point.
    R.C.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  5. Chris Moore says: • Website

    We’re living at the tail end of the ((Jewish)) Century. Of course ((Jews)) get a pass on their crimes. Of course science, logic, reason, critical thinking, etc. no longer apply to events concerning ((Jewish)) guilt, and increasingly nothing at all. Of course emotion uber alles. “Holocaust” propaganda made sure of that.

    Christianity was useful to humanity when it was “anti-Semitic.” Christian scholars would apply Western logic to scripture to demonstrate ((Jewish)) guilt, in order to keep the sociopaths in their place. Then the ((Jews)) went into “victim” mode, in conjunction with their ((Jewish)) supremacist “Chosen” dogma, and relentlessly pushed the wars of the ((Jewish)) Century on a traumatized world. A clever, if totally evil, strategy. Something only a collective of Judeofascist sociopaths would design.

    Clown World is the outcome, but the Clown is increasingly unhinged as evidence (again) of his guilt mounts.

    As I said, this is the tail end of the ((Jewish)) Century. Thankfully.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anonymous
  6. As with the JFK assassination, if this was simply 19 guys who “hated America for its freedoms” doing this, why is anything “classified”? If that is true, why not release all the information? It supports the assertion, right?

    If not, what the heck are you hiding?

    If Lee hated Jack so much that he blew him away with a rifle in the middle of the day, why is anything “classified”?

    People who want to keep secret details of what are supposedly simple criminal acts invite skepticism.

  7. The biggest whopper of all, which most Americans have swallowed wholesale, is that Bin Laden was able to pull this off from his cave deep in the Afghan mountains.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  8. Anon62 says:

    . . . it is clear that wealthy Saudis and even members of the Royal Family had been supporting and funding al-Qaeda.

    There is substantial evidence “wealthy Saudis” and members of the “Royal Family” were supporting organizations engaged in terror. But were these organizations known as al-Queda or were they another arabian acronym organization, perhaps one raised and funded to assist the CIA in fulfilling the Brezynski plan to turn Russian involvement in Afghanistan into a Soviet Vietnam? Did the Saudi’s deliver funding because it was demanded of them as allies of the US? Because a radical wahabi militarized group of co-religionists was in the interests of both the Saudi and American elites?

    After all the talk of nasty Russians, the west conveniently forgets that the Afghan state the CIA worked so hard to overthrow was one that empowered women, sought to provide universal access to higher education, perform land reform, reduce poverty, and ensure a legal system that did not act preferentially in favour of the Afghan elites.

    Under this interpretation of events, the corrupt Afghan elites, the corrupt Saudi elites, and the corrupt American elites all conspired together to ensure the funding of an organization dedicated to terror with 9/11 as the ultimate outcome.

    A close examination of “who did it” likely surfaces the same group of self-interested persons who acted to obstruct the American people in their electoral choice of 2016. The American people voiced their desire to avoid a government that was different faces, same policy. The American elite objected to this desire for change and made sure the Amercian people got what they deserved.

  9. Trinity says:

    (((Who))) done it?

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  10. @Mark in BC

    If Lee hated Jack so much that he blew him away with a rifle in the middle of the day, why is anything “classified”?

    For the same reason the FBI’s investigation of Flight 800 remains classified.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/obama-pilot-twa-flight-800-shot-article-1.2186329

    • Thanks: RichardDuck
    • Replies: @Mark in BC
    , @RichardDuck
  11. @Mark in BC

    They don’t release the real story in order to cover either their own asses or that of their close friends.

  12. @carroll price

    Indeed. These and other events supposedly have such simple explanations but, for some reason, any time one questions the narrative all you get is a stone wall.

  13. Correction Head of the World Jewish Congress is Ronald S. Lauder and David de Rothschild, although Maurice Greenberg and Jeffery Greenberg are important players also.

    https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/about/leaders/executive-committee

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/russianfreedomforum/911-rotschild-lauder-connection-t18819657.html

    The 9-11 terror crime required a great deal of setting up, preparation which included the privatization of the World Trade Center, state-owned property of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. For the culprits, obtaining control of the Twin Towers was necessary so that demolition teams could access the buildings in order to place explosive materials. This would have been impossible had the towers remained in the hands of the Port Authority.
    The privatization of the World Trade Center involved Ronald Lauder, a high-level Zionist with close ties to the Rothschild family, one of whom served at the highest level of Israel’s Military Intelligence Directorate.

    Ronald Lauder headed the two commissions under Governor George Pataki that pushed for the privatization of the World Trade Center: the New York State Commission of Privatization and the New York State Research Council on Privatization. Lauder was the driving force behind the effort to privatize the World Trade Center, which resulted in Larry Silverstein, a fellow Zionist, getting the 99-year lease of the Twin Towers in July 2001.

    Ronald S. Lauder is the President of the World Jewish Congress.

    David de Rothschild is chairman of the governing board of the World Jewish Congress. He is also the Executive Chairman of the Rothschild Group

  14. derer says:

    Even if we (herd of sheep) know basic W5 (who, why…) nothing will change and real perpetrators will never be punished because apparently they are dead by “suicide”.

    The true display of American pseudo-democracy workings is the killing of an elected president with a single-magic-bullet, concocted by sinister people for our children and a history note.

  15. RobinG says:

    A 21-year-old Jewish anti-Zionist, who fled Israel in 2017, is pleading his case for asylum in the UK.

    Jewish anti-Zionist to plead his case for asylum in the UK
    Hearing on September 20 will address the appeal of a Jewish anti-Zionist against the rejection he received in from the UK
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/16/asylum-appeal-of-anti-zionist-jewish-israeli-who-refuse

  16. Trinity says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    (((Cui bono.))) teehee.

    Lucky Larry + 5 Dancing Shlomos = COHENcidence or “conspiracy theories?”

    “they are jealous of our freedoms.” lolololol.

    Did not Bibi say that muh Israel benefited from the attacks? How damn cold and inhumane can you be??? And this is our “bestest” friend of all time?

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  17. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris Moore

    unless we get TRANSHUMANISM during that ‘tail end’ which would give us ‘clone world’ and minds fed in cases computer chipped and in control of the clones

    omg! will it ever end?

  18. anonymous[305] • Disclaimer says:

    In the annals of modified limited hangouts, this is your glans peeping out between two teeth of your zipper, in the shadow of your sport coat. Shamefully inadequate.

    Of course Saudis and Israelis pitched in, with evident glee. CIA uses foreign cutouts who run home and taunt the American public with comically exaggerated jerk-off gestures and redeye moons and even cruel and hilarious costumes

    This effectively diverts US public rage from treasonous CIA scumbags like Tenet, Black, Blee, Casey, and Brennan, who set up the eyes-only intelligence liaisons and ran these CIA agents in the USA.

    https://covertactionmagazine.com/2021/09/13/the-twenty-year-shadow-of-9-11-part-2-why-did-key-u-s-officials-protect-the-alleged-9-11-plotters/

    Cut the shit. CIA did 911. Times change and there is no statute of limitations for the gravest crimes. All you vermin who helped, you will be looking over your shoulder the rest of your chickenshit cowardly lives.

  19. As long as families that suffered casualties from the destruction of World Trade Center towers want to remain willfully ignorant about “Who did it?” and want to remain steadfast believers in official American government’s narratives and want to recite names and ring bells thousands of times EVERY YEAR as annual celebration of 9/11, then it doesn’t really matter whether commercial jetliners were used or missiles as well as controlled demolition processes were used for deliberate mass destruction.

    After all, there is a common understanding that Israel’s problem is America’s problem.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  20. JLK says:

    You’re really handicapping yourself if you try to answer “who” without reaching a conclusion as to “what,” in other words the physics and technology that really brought the buildings down.

    If the buildings were pre-wired with explosives, that narrows the possible groups down considerably. If high-tech explosives were used, that narrows things down even more.

    A full analysis must also include whether specific groups who knew of the scheme to hijack airliners and crash them into buildings in advance also knew that the buildings would collapse, or were as surprised as the firefighters and a lot more of us who have some structural engineering background were.

    If they didn’t know the latter, they could have been hooked in deeper than they expected by a let-it-happen-on-purpose strategy. I suspect Israel might fall in this category.

  21. “when they each independently observed what appeared to be a large plane passing over their cars and striking the building.”

    They probably saw something flying low and saw an explosion and the TV news filled the gaps in their “memory.”

    Some theorize it was a drone painted like an airliner, while others say a large aircraft flew low over the Pentagon while dropping a laser guided bomb.

    There is hard proof an airline did not hit given the lack of debris (especially the disappearing tail that couldn’t fit into the round hole), no bodies or aircraft seats, the unscorched lawn, and no damage to the Pentagon wall where the solid engines would hit.

    Then pilots will say only an expert could fly an airliner that long tight turn diving path directly into the part of the Pentagon under renovation to minimize deaths.

    Maybe they could release the 20 plus CCTV videos from all the security cameras so we could see. Nothing was ever released and they didn’t every try inventing excuses.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @RichardDuck
  22. Here’s an oldie but a goodie of mine from way back in May, 2019:

    you are a crank whose opinions always precede evidence

    you interrogate evidence, and select factoids to weave into a narrative

    the dead and maimed from 9-11 are of an unusually cognitively gifted national and global demographic

    the survivors, and the families of the dead, collectively have unusually deep pockets

    they collectively hired skilled and highly intelligent lawyers and investigators

    no one — except the likely gang of cranks who come to you for permission to fantasize their importance, or to agitate for ethnic cleansing and genocide — takes you seriously

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-role-in-9-11/?showcomments#comment-3238375

    • Replies: @04398436986
    , @Colin Wright
  23. Bite Moi says:
    @Mulegino1

    Mulegine1———–Don’t trust Muslems.Don’t trust Jews. You can trust Christians———-if they are family.

    • Replies: @moi
  24. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Depends on how much of what we think we know is true. Did nineteen Arabs actually hijack the planes and fly them into the towers and the Pentagon? If so then the hijacker pilots had to have had extensive training in prepping them to fly those jumbo jets. Only a state has the resources to do so discreetly, requiring planes to practice on, instructors who spoke Arabic, training manuals in Arabic, airfields out of the public way such as at a military base, security system in place so these unconventional pilot trainees won’t get spotted and raise questions, etc. Logically they would have gotten their training at a Saudi Arabian military base where things could be done discreetly and conducted in their own language. SA has been a regular procurer of jihadi one way trippers for the US for a long time. It would only be acting in cooperation with the US of course. How deeply the Israelis were involved is hard to gauge; they did seem to have foreknowledge of the coming event. Might have been a division of labor undertaking.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  25. Phibbs says:

    The Jews were aware that the marines in Beirut were going to be attacked back in 1983, but withheld the information as they believed 242 dead Marines would benefit Israel. The cunning, scheming, manipulative, deceptive, terrorist Jews of Israel and America did the same thing in regard to 9-11 — they withheld critical information to benefit their country.

  26. @anonymous

    There were no hijackers onboard any of the planes. Which is why flight #93 had to be shot down to prevent it from landing at the nearest airport after the pilots regained control of the plane from the flight controller.

    • Agree: JohnnyGodYilmaz
  27. Ron Unz says:
    @JLK

    You’re really handicapping yourself if you try to answer “who” without reaching a conclusion as to “what,” in other words the physics and technology that really brought the buildings down.

    I strongly disagree. From my recent article:

    I would argue that the only important aspect of such technical issues is whether the overall evidence is sufficiently strong to establish the falsehood of the official 9/11 narrative and also demonstrate that the attacks must have been the work of a highly sophisticated organization with access to advanced military technology rather than a rag-tag band of 19 Arabs armed with box-cutters. Beyond that, none of those details matter.

    In that regard, I believe that the volume of factual material collected by determined researchers over the last seventeen years has easily met that requirement, perhaps even ten or twenty times over. For example, even agreeing upon a single particular item such as the clear presence of nano-thermite, a military-grade explosive compound, would immediately satisfy those two criteria…

    Once we have concluded that the culprits were part of a highly sophisticated organization, we can then focus on the Who and the Why, which surely would be of greater importance than the particular details of the How. Yet currently all the endless debate over the How tends to crowd out the Who and the Why, and I wonder whether this unfortunate situation might even be intentional.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/seeking-9-11-truth-after-twenty-years/

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @JLK
    , @Wizard of Oz
  28. @follyofwar

    You have a distinct talent for understatement. Whopper??? Bald faced filthy lie with the underlying assumption that the hearer is butt stupid. lol Something for many to think about. Clinton said, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Guess where you stand if you bought into this. Old Billy boy, would be disappointed in you.

  29. Hri B says:

    Ha ha ha, Mr. Giraldi look away while I clean the crime scene from nano-thermite.
    At least something similar did the post-communist regime in Macedonia when they tried to kill their own president Kiro Gligorov.
    Second, why was the regime in Saudi Arabia spared?
    Did you try to send the message with partial declassifying of the report to twist the arm of the Saudis so they still preserve the Petro-Dollar?

  30. sonny six says:

    don’t lose to much sleep over the 9-11 that already happened. Lose sleep over what is coming next, good old Jew God yahweh says 1/3 of world population will perish. Wow I guess it is time to lose sleep. It might be me, it might be you.

  31. GMC says:

    Well, we know that Saudi Arabia didn’t do it – the FBI said so — lol There is a Huge reason why it’s called – Ground Zero ! But don’t expect the Peasants to figure it out.

  32. Economist and author Paul Craig Roberts has also been motivated by the anniversary to review the evidence and concludes “Circumstantial evidence suggests that 9/11 was a scheme of George W. Bush regime neoconservative officials allied with vice president Dick Cheney and Israel to create a ‘new Pearl Harbor’ that would generate support on the part of the American people and Washington’s European allies for a Middle Eastern ‘war on terror’ whose real purpose was to destroy Israel’s enemies in the interest of Greater Israel…

    In this century, Israel’s enemies have been Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and, by its own perception, its greatest threat has been Iran. America’s response to 9/11 did nothing to weaken Hamas or Hezbollah and ended up strengthening Iran.

    • Agree: ivan
    • Troll: Raches
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  33. @ Philip Giraldi,

    This is what should have happened to your friends’ car/s @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdl94J3AxZY

  34. Sarah says:

    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
  35. chris says:

    I think that another indispensable part of the 911 puzzle is the story of its partisans inside the government, as summarized by Ray McGovern. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/09/no_author/plenty-of-intelligence-to-prevent-9-11/

    This, and the anthrax story which immediately followed 911, which was just more circumstantial evidence suggesting previous knowledge and planning.

  36. roonaldo says:

    The morning of 911, my girlfriend hollered for me to come see the tower that was ablaze, and after what seemed an eternity with no air force planes showing up, I knew something was fishy.

    When the towers came down, demolition-style, I knew a whole bunch of stuff was fishy. I’d been to the WTC observation deck a number of times years before while working in a nearby high-rise, and I’d taken an interest in their construction. It was common knowledge they were designed to withstand a large plane strike.

    Over time it became clear that the wide-ranging conspiracy necessary to pull it off required, as did the JFK murder, guarantors at the highest levels to manipulate evidence, restrict investigations, and white-wash reports. In a recent piece, Mr. Unz paints Cheney and Rumsfeld, the ex Halliburton and Searles CEOs, as humble business folk, but never have a more weaselly-assed pair of motherfuckers graced the Executive Branch. Throw in the Bush Crime Family, and we got ourselves a real hootenanny!

    When faced with gullible believers in the official story, all I say these days is “What about building 7?” Most have never heard of it. It saves time explaining to folks things they can’t mentally digest such as the miraculous, disappearing 757 at Shanksville, the incredible, coincidental hijack simulations, etc., etc.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy, HbutnotG
  37. @04398436986

    and I also had a follow-up to that comment:

    700+ comments in, and beyond a flurry of insults, not a single comment confronted the heart of my contention. I will restate it.

    None of the claims made here about Israel’s role in 9/11 are persuasive to the well informed. The claims are manufactured blood libels.

    In addition, none of the (less outlandish) theoretical technical arguments presented in the comments are readily demonstrable or falsifiable. Each would require many billions to confirm or refute.

    The USG is of course not interested in either the blood libels or the other bizarre claims of the truthers.

    More importantly, the 9/11 survivors collective is not interested. This collective includes elite Americans who work in high-powered finance, international trade, law, big data & complex modeling, etc. This collective also includes (via the uncles and cousins of NYPD, etc. of the first responder community) some of the world’s best crime investigators. So: tens of thousands of highly intelligent and sophisticated Americans, determined to shine a bright light on the political and security establishment that had so severely failed them. They hired lawyers and investigators to evaluate available evidence. With much public sympathy they agitated for government disclosure and accountability and well-considered policies going forward.

    A third group, the white gentile billionaire class, is not interested in 9/11 trutherism. This group includes individuals and families (and moreover, associated networks) Buffet, Gates, Mercer, Koch, Thiel, Walton, Mars, Bezos, Ford, Rockefeller and many others with less name recognition.

    All of the above three groups are committed to the survival and flourishing of the USA.

    Searching for 9/11 Truth is a lot like searching for The Abominable Snowman/Bigfoot/Sasquatch, the Lost City of Atlantis, the secrets of Bermuda Triangle, and ETs at Area 51.

    But the Goebbelians and Islamists understand that some Americans have a deep need to be part of a community that passionately and righteously believes in unlikely things. The Goebbelians and Islamists thus labor to weaponize these passions against Jews.

    Garibaldi, your fans, like yourself, have no shame. None at all.

    • LOL: Thim
    • Replies: @Jihadijew
  38. chris says:
    @JLK

    If they didn’t know the latter, they could have been hooked in deeper than they expected by a let-it-happen-on-purpose strategy.

    What speaks against the “let-it-happen-on-purpose strategy” is the pre-planning and obfuscation operations inside the pentagon and related agencies: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/09/no_author/plenty-of-intelligence-to-prevent-9-11/

    It’s not very likely that having minutely planned everything before and after the attack, they would just sit there crossing their fingers and hoping it would actually take place. Besides, what did Bush say aferward: “either you’re with us or you’re with the terrorists”!!!

  39. Dumbo says:

    The question is “Did Jew do it”? And the answer is “Yes”.

    The following film excerpt from Woody Allen’s “Annie Hall” is supposedly mocking “Jewish paranoia” about “anti-semitism”, only it’s not really humour, Jews really do think this way, all the time. Just check any Jewish newspaper or magazine or blog, about half of it is about “anti-semitism”.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  40. Half Back says:
    @ImaBotKnot

    Lucky Larry wife remembered his dermatologist appointment? Further on his children were caught in traffic on thier way to the ‘towers’ were they worked. Suck luck for the family. In 9/11 you get you see sociopath people. Larry was on the media recently- doesn’t miss a beat talking real estate, but the man (Larry) is a sociopath killer and the worst type of human possible. Filth!

  41. @ImaBotKnot

    Funny how the leaders of international Jewish organs are almost invariably financial gangsters and parasites. The Jews who reach global eminence in the arts, letters, science, technology, academia etc, seem either uninterested in serving, or are not invited.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  42. @Phibbs

    Withholding information? Like, they didn’t tell the US organs who were not aware of the coming ‘New Pearl Harbor’, that ‘We are about to blow up the Twin Towers’. How dastardly!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Hibernian
  43. @Face_The_Truth

    Social commentators claim this is the true information era. One thing is clear as you have so rightly put it, it won’t stop those millions of “willfully ignorant” people who don’t really care enough about all of the lying and deception that the U.S. government has been involved in tor quite a while now. I don’t mean those things that truly have to be kept secret for security reasons, which should be extremely few. I’m talking of the in your face obvious lies our leaders feel free to tell us.

  44. dearieme says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Then where is the plane; where are the passengers?

    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
  45. 20 years and Giraldi still doesn’t have a clue.

    • Troll: Ukraine Tiger
  46. “a strong, perhaps even overwhelming case that the Israeli Mossad together with its American collaborators played the central role” in the attack.

    The correct view by Ron Unz and many distinguished analysts, and thanks for that early diagnosis by Justin Raimondo, Mr Giraldi.

    How obvious it is, from the gleeful dancing Israeli’s to the outcome on more innocents who are Israel’s enemies. In fact the entire non-Jewish world is the enemy of these demons. And how appalling and disgusting that some Americans should be complicit in aiding the international Hyena in 9/11.
    And promoting the mass-murdering ME aftermath for the same Hyena.

    As some note, Christianity kept the children of Satan in as strict control as possible (given their devious nature) for centuries. But now it has been compromised/corrupted, not least by Jewish input like the Scofield Bible Notes. Some see the binding/loosing (and outcome) of Satan in Revelation 20 as describing this history.

    But now the US Jewish golem is failing, wrecked by the Parasite itself. Another power is rising, Jews and their freemason servants are trying to insert into it, abandoning the once-useful USA for new parasite fields. They will fail. Their very long consistent record of deceit, death and destruction is now well known by the common man in the street, how much more by govt agencies.
    It will not end well for the Jewish Hyena and their complicit servants.

  47. Let them wash their eyes,
    If the fans can watch football
    With their wings and fries.

  48. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:
    @Phibbs

    Agree, Phibbs. We had a family member, a young marine, killed in the infamous Beirut attack. Some information regarding Israel’s advance knowledge of this attack (and it’s failure to notify the US military) might have been provided by Jimmy Carter’s book ‘Peace: Not Apartheid’ but after an intense pre-publication tug-of-war between Israeli lobbies and the publisher it was taken out of the book. Not surprisingly, numerous stories covering this issue with Carter’s book at the time, including articles in the New York Times, seem to have been completely scrubbed out of internet existence.

    I think Giraldi’s article is an honest and succinct view of the 9/11 attack. Although, unfortunately, I suspect Turkey also has to be added to any list of Israel’s projected war targets.

  49. Levtraro says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    You forgot to mention Iraq under SH. It was a great enemy of Israel, and it was quickly blamed for 911 and invaded. Then Syria, Lybia, all enemies of Israel. After 911 and further muslim terror attacks in Bali, Madrid, London and Paris, the pain that was Israel’s until 2001, became the pain of White nations, which made Israel leaders happy, as BN declared after 911 (“it is very good”). Note how muslim terrorist attacks on Israel decreased constantly after 2002. So the plan seemed to have worked well for Israel but the trend lasted just 15 yr or so, Al Qaeda and Daesh are now gone, and Israel is still not safe and content. Once again Israel is losing sympathies over their treatment of Palestinians and their building of settlements on land that was not given to Jews by White nations after WWII. But Israel still controls the polities of Anglo nations. Is that enough to keep enlarging Israel territory and securing its expanding borders, or a new resurgence of hatred toward muslims is necessary? It’s been 20 yr now since the last hatred euphoria. As the Nobel poet said “love is so short and forgetting is so long”. We in the West are starting to dislike the Jew nation again and starting to forget about crazy brown takfiris. Israel apartheid system is becoming transparent, and you know, for much that Jews gloat about their cunning, Israel national IQ is below 100 and we Whites are still enormously stronger than anyone else, including the Jews of course.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  50. “And Israel gets yet another pass.”

    You don’t need to get a pass when one is the pass creator.

    • Replies: @Monty Ahwazi
  51. Brilliant article totally logical. But I would blame more cooperators in US government Bush, Chaney, and neocons, than Israeli’s. Because Israeli’s have at least excuse of survival of Israel.

  52. Maddaugh says:

    Who did it ? Who benefited ?

    Who knows, I mean REALLY knows. As many readers have commented, we still dont know who capped JFK. Maybe one day we will, that is not, WE, but the folks living in 2121, people who will ask “JKF ? Lee Harvey Oswald ? Who are they ?”

    The fact is the American public suffer from a natural attention span of 2 minutes compounded by severe amnesia and dementia. Compounding this is the inability to think and of course the ignorance instilled by and encouraged by an education system that is dumbs down students and eduators. The Politicians know this and so ride out the most “shocking” revelations.

    After a month or so of this and that scandal, the public has moved on. Politicians also have their secrets and the crime is not the secret itself but getting caught, exposed or ridiculed. Hence, frequently it seems there is a “you sweep my scandal under the table and protect me and I will keep your skeletons locked in the closet”. Scratch my nuts and I’ll scratch yours.

    What we do know is that whatever the motivation or whoever benefits, the USA, in going to Iraq and Afghanistan, for whatever reason, took blows then and now is more or less done for good.

    Like the schoolyard bully, once bitch slapped by the 90 pound nerd, the whole school runs amok taking turns to exact revenge. This is now the second time the US has been thumped by Third World tilapias. What is the perception of the sharks to now such easily exposed weak meat.

    Whatever the who or why, we have been damaged for decades to come and perhaps for good. If a certain Tribe felt some satisfaction as a result or felt they have gained some long term advantage they need to consider that with a weakened US, they have weakened themselves. Like the bully’s flunkies, when the big guy goes down, his disciples also get a whupping, many times more severe.

  53. @dearieme

    Isn’t that what he was implying?

  54. Anon[794] • Disclaimer says:

    …and we were warned of this 80 or so years ago.

  55. ivan says:

    The dancing schlomos were according to Dr Giraldi held in solitary confinement for days but later sprung by George Bush. Jorge’s behavior here speaks of a man whose mind was made up to attack Saddam Hussein.

    I am sorry to say that I had once respected Bush as some kind of honorable Christian. But it has been clear for time that the man is a war criminal, who wilfully misled all and sundry

  56. saggy says: • Website

    The title

    Another Look at 9/11: Ask Not ‘What Happened?’ But ‘Who Did It?’

    is absurd – if you can’t even determine what happened how in the hell can you figure out who did it? Then the article begins with a lot of truther nonsense. Why continue to publish such idiocy?

    • Replies: @dimples
  57. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    The Israeli Dimension

    By George Friedman,
    Founder And Chairman of STRATFOR
    The Global Intelligence Company
    9-11-01

    The big winner today, intended or not, is the state of Israel.

    Israel has been under siege by suicide bombers for more than a year. It has responded by waging a systematic war against Palestinian command structures. The international community, particularly the United States, has pressured Israel heavily to stop its operations. The argument has been made that the threat of suicide bombings, though real, does not itself constitute a genuine threat to Israeli national security and should not trigger the kind of response Israel is making.

    Today’s events change all of this.

    First, the United States no longer can argue that Israel should endure the bombings. Moving forward, the domestic American political mood simply won’t tolerate such a stance.

    Second, Israel now becomes, once again, an indispensable ally to the United States. The United States is obviously going to launch a massive covert and overt war against the international radical Islamic movement that is assumed to be behind this attack. Not only does this align U.S. and Israeli interests but it also makes the United States dependent on the Israelis — whose intelligence capabilities in this area as well as covert operational capabilities are clearly going to be needed.

    There is no question, therefore, that the Israeli leadership is feeling relief. Given that pressures for Israel to restrain operations against the Palestinian Authority and other Palestinian groups will decline dramatically, it might be expected that Yasser Arafat, anticipating this evolution, will rapidly change his position on suicide bombings and become more accommodating to Israel. In effect, today’s events have wrecked Arafat’s nearly successful drive to split the United States from Israel.

  58. Trinity says:

    The fact that this is still a discussion 20 years later affirms that nothing will happen to the (((culprits))) behind this atrocity. Does anyone honestly think that the Dancing Israelis would have been let go so easily had they been Russkies? How about Chinamen? How about Iranians? How about the favorite current boogeyman, those dreaded “White Supremacists?” Imagine if Larry Silverstein was a “White Supremacist?” My guess is Lucky Larry is a Jewish Supremacist. Whatcha think?

    Everyone and his brother knows who the culprit is, but it doesn’t matter. Everyone knows the election was stolen and they could care less that you know it. The people’s opinion hasn’t mattered for a long, long, time, but now it is official, the people must be seen and not heard.

    • Agree: Thim
  59. Weaver says:
    @Anonymous

    I’ve never heard that Israel had advanced warning and didn’t pass it on. Thanks for sharing that.

    NYT articles should be on microfilm at libraries, unless that has changed.

  60. JLK says:
    @Ron Unz

    I would argue that the only important aspect of such technical issues is whether the overall evidence is sufficiently strong to establish the falsehood of the official 9/11 narrative and also demonstrate that the attacks must have been the work of a highly sophisticated organization with access to advanced military technology rather than a rag-tag band of 19 Arabs armed with box-cutters. Beyond that, none of those details matter.

    We don’t really disagree. That’s what I meant.

  61. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    … inhibited no doubt by the understanding that there are some things that one just does not write about Israel if one hopes to remain employed.

    And that is the whole issue, isn’t it.

    Because Jews have developed a stranglehold on the levers of power, right down to ruining anyone that opposes their evil, unless brave souls decide to create a parallel system of worldly protection against the Tribal Mafia, Mankind is doomed to lose the War the Jews declared on the Nations since the time of Moses.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Disagree: Arthur MacBride
  62. Trinity says:

    WHY is America so slavishly devoted to Israel and Jews? Seriously, what gives here? HOW does this tiny nation and small group of people have so much influence over the West, particularly America?

    All the atrocities that Israel and/or Jewish Supremacists/Zionists aka neo-cons have committed against America and still (((0ur leaders))) won’t kick them to the curb? Not only the bombing of the WTC and other events like JFK, USS Liberty, Lavon Affair, etc., but all the recent riots in the inner cities by groups like (((Antifa/BLM))) as well, the tearing down of monuments which is as common as rape when a nation vanquishes the enemy. The anti-White propaganda that (((Hollywood))) has put out for decades is yet another example. And yet our (((legacy media))) states that “White Supremacists” are the greatest domestic threat to our nation?? lolol. Nothing could be further from the truth.

  63. It is the elephant in the room, the attack on the WTC was done by Israel and traitors in the ZUS government, and every thinking American knows it, but the gutless bastards in congress aka the lower house of the knesset are too scared to do anything about it.

    America is under zionist communist control and the covid-19 scam and psyop is nailing the last nail in the coffin.

  64. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:

    Until Americans start thinking and stop listening,the prospects of worse 911 arent behind us. A nation that doesnt know how to think,evaluate information,seperate message from messengers, and until stop feeling omniscient full of themselves after picking up some echoed soundbites from church,visual audio media,or bar ,it has no hope.

    Think of the fetal tissue research, These psycho have no problem in accepting organs when they need it . But they scream at the researches on fetal tissues .
    They have no problem in exaggerating the validity and success of capitalism . They have zero patience
    before they decry any state or government initiave that deliberates on taking control of private biomedical researches . But then, these morons will start imbibing with passion the kool -aid of the oneliner soundbite of morons on audio visual media hectoring against expenses . Hey dude, private enterprise is about money not about writing bible. They also do not know what even simple businees involves like gathering/ procuring/ storing / processing and trials / shelf life / marketing .
    No doubt these morons belive that everythibg can get incinerated but a passport can land from the burning contact surfaces of tower and plane on the ground and recovered by a law enforcement officer that helps the gov make a case of passport holder ethnicity being behind 911.
    These morons have no problem in thinking Saddam or Atta or or a devious alcholic woman- hungry ,homosexual pervert but a fanatic religious terrorists or frail dying pale enfeebled Bin Laden or drug king Noregia keep themselves surounded with stashes of pornography.

    These morons are angry coward stupid .
    They allow Trump get away with attributing the ethnicity of dancing Israelis to Arab origin.

    Their purveyors of hatred refer to book by Woodward on Miley’s reaching out to China and force discussion in senate and congress but these bastars never mention 911 or Iraq war related questions that arise from books by reputable known authors or even by Woodward .

    Tell these morons about the reports , they will call you names -from anti semitic to traitors to being conspiracy thoerists -or simply will assert why someone will use a book to probe or open an investigation.

    Yeserday some moron on one of the right wing radio was spewing fire on Lindsey Graham’s feeble response to Woodwards report . Where this moron was when Trump killed Soleimani in exchange of senate support against impeachement ? That report was on WSJ.

  65. @Ron Unz

    That makes it clear enough that in fact one big How answer is critical to your case. (You reject implicitly my stripped down conspiracies of which the slimmest is the blockage of effective warnings in or to the White Hoise).

    Yes, you can do without a missile as long as you can have the WTC buildings blown up. Your answer to my accusations of handwaving about at least 20 ways your criteria are satisfied is to point to how many books you have read, quite a few years ago by people like Ray Griffin. Well we’ll have to differ about your judgement of people to believe and I hang my case on the weight you went out of your way to accord to Janie McInatyre’s words which he has said have been misinterpreted by people like you. As well as not contacting him (which should be easy) and not bothering to take an interest in his Master’s thesis beyond speculating that he was coerced into lying you don’t seem to be aware that he also said this’

    “JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN SENIOR PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: The tapes are a more complete and unedited version of five still frames CNN obtained from a Pentagon security camera and was the first to broadcast back in March of 2002. The newly-released video includes a view from a second camera at the same checkpoint, which provides a slightly clearer view of the American Airlines 757 as it flew just feet above the ground, and slammed into the Pentagon. One video shows the nose of the plane as it enters the frame, the other shows the fuselage as it whizzes by at several hundred miles per hour.

    “The tapes were sealed as evidence for the criminal trial of 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui, but with his sentencing, the Justice Department released the tapes in response to a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed by the legal watchdog group Judicial Watch:”

    http://edition.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/16/transcript.wed/index.html

    Given your erroneous description of WTC buildings coming down at freefall speed into their own footprints which presumably resulted from your believing untrustworthy sources without reflecting on it or checking I am reluctant to take much notice of your enthusiasm for the evidence of whoever claimed discovery of military grade nano thermite (a compound of aluminium and iron of which there was an abundance). You’ll have to do better than that if you want me to concede that I shouldn’t be sceptical about demolition with a bias toward calling it BS) until I’ve read the same 20 books as you.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @anon
    , @Iris
  66. @Mark in BC

    Bingo. Why indeed is anything classified.

    The question answers itself. It’s because the truth has to be hidden to protect the guilty.

    • Agree: Trinity
  67. Anon[345] • Disclaimer says:

    The assassinations of Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King, the USS Liberty, the Vietnam War, the 911, the Banksters and WallStreeters robbery, the Oil-Pharma-Agri killer complex with their 2008 “crisis”…and right now the current on going Covid crime…with no end in sight All have proved decisively that the so-called liberal democracy is a flawed system if not criminal by design. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the current system is so destructive to people’s life and liberty that cannot be repaired.. it must be abolished!

    “Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government…”

  68. @carroll price

    It seems the word “investigation” has a very elastic meaning when the administration wants a cover up.

  69. @mulga mumblebrain

    What’s wrong with either of my slimmed down conspiracy theories which some might think had explanatory advantages because they can exist in the absence of great evil and a vast number of people who have to have stayed silent?

    1. Israel knew that the CIA and FBI had all the information needed if they communicated properly and were competent to stop the attacks and may well have had a hunch that they would stuff it up so didn’t take the extra step of a heavyweight warning through the Ambassador;

    2. The warnings were all given but manipulated by a couple of neocons high up in Defense and the White House so that the President wasn’t alerted but could be blamed for not noticing? So the cover up was for the President as well as the FBI and CIA.

  70. @Anonymous

    I believe it is mentioned in “They Dare to Speak Out” by the late Paul Findley.

  71. Hibernian says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Apparently they weren’t the Mark Milleys of their time!

  72. @Carlton Meyer

    Then pilots will say only an expert could fly an airliner that long tight turn diving path directly into the part of the Pentagon under renovation to minimize deaths.

    Was it to minimize deaths or to remove the trail of a 2.3 trillion \$ fraud, in combination with the backup records located in WTC7?

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @Agent76
  73. Agent76 says:

    Dec 16, 2012 The Crimes Committed in the Name of 9/11

    “9/11 Revisted: Seeking the Truth” conference in Kuala Lumpur on November 19, 2012.

    September 10, 2021 The Bin Ladens and the Bushes: On 9/11 George Herbert W. Bush Meets Osama’s Brother Shafiq bin Laden

    Lest we forget, one day before the 9/11 attacks [as well as on the morning of 9/11, the dad of the sitting President of the United States of America, George Herbert Walker Bush was meeting none other than Shafiq bin Laden, the brother of the alleged terror mastermind Osama bin Laden.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-bin-ladens-the-bushes-and-911-a-former-us-president-meets-osamas-brother-not-subject-to-anti-terrorism-legislation/5582436

  74. Agent76 says:
    @Sarah

    Good share Sarah! Since we are dealing with government spook censorship I went directly to the source. Are you ready to have your mind blown?

    Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

    https://www.corbettreport.com/911-suspects-rudy-giuliani/

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Sarah
  75. OPG, do you believe that PNAC conspirators would think they needed more than four hijackings and probably four fiery strikes on landmark buildings to constitute a new Pearl Harbor with major damage and loss of life but no planned collapses of whole buildings? They could count on Cheney and Rumsfeld to react belligerently and the media to beat war war drums so would they have calculated that they still needed to add enormous risk involving hundreds of people in a plot to directly murder a lot of people? Sure, unless someone has got times very wrong the 5 dancing Israelis seem to prove that Mossad knew what was coming. (A question I would like answered however is what phone calls the 5 Israelis made and received).

  76. “The FBI was aware of the numerous Israeli students who were routinely overstaying their visas…”

    The masters of the Amerikastani Empire need visas to trample all over their wholly owned slave entity? How droll.

  77. This is a good piece. Always note the involvement of the British faction of the Global Elite (? Illuminati ) such as Tony Blair and British Petroleum/Royal Dutch Shell and the British membership of The Committee of 300. Also the Euro elite Germanish Deuche Bank/Carl Schawb/WEF/Dragi/LeGaurd. The Vatican (? All are Illuminati )

    In some ways the United States ( the unaccountable Money Generator used to fund Globalism and wars) and Israel are just the “Muscle” used by these European Elite Brotherhood of the Snake.

    And asking again How Illuminati controlled is China. For example search engine….

    Greenberg Starr Foundation ….. To see the Greenberg meetings with top Chinese Leadership.

    Also have evil Globalists posing as Israeli interests installed the Sampson option in China??? Are all countries under the threat of being nuked? The Art Students are everywhere. The B-Thing, The E-Team, Galatin???

    THE FOLLY OF EMPIRES: In the Wake of Afghanistan’s Ruination By Kambiz Zarrabi

    http://www.payvand.com/news/21/sep/1002.html

    As background – Search Engine these terms together “David Kimche” “The Safari Club” Iran-Contra

    • Replies: @ImaBotKnot
  78. Agent76 says:
    @RichardDuck

    A picture is said to be worth a thousand words. This one certainly counts.

    Do you see any plane?

    • Replies: @GMC
    , @RichardDuck
  79. What happens when someone crashes a large airliner at a high rate of speed into something like the Pentagon or the ground, like the 2015 Germanwings disaster in the Alps? You end up with thousands of items and hundreds of body parts scattered about:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=germanwings+debris&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SsArVbeiJo3zoATAx4GQDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1093&bih=482&dpr=1.25

    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/germanwings-alps-crash-recovery-yields-400-600-body-parts-article-1.2164581

    This happens at all such crashes, unless you believe the official story of 9-11 that everything pulverized and disappeared without a single body part to be found, or aircraft seat, or luggage. I don’t know what happened on 9-11, but any sane person who watches this news video about the site in Pennsylvania where we are told Flight 93 crashed concludes that a large airliner did not crash there.

    • Thanks: Agent76
  80. Mevashir says:

    Nice article Philip but a bit lukewarm. Harder to be passionate for the unpleasant Truth than about a chimerical furren enemy, right?

    This is some information about a journalist named Victor Thorn, who way back in 2006 already was implicating the Israelis:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/seeking-9-11-truth-after-twenty-years/?showcomments#comment-4894281
    https://www.unz.com/runz/seeking-9-11-truth-after-twenty-years/?showcomments#comment-4894341



    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OHXOFM0/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p2_i6

    I was looking up his website and discovered on the SPLC website they are gloating that he committed suicide in 2016. He bit the dust with some very eminent people like Phyllis Schlafly. (I wrote to Victor back in 2006. He was a very enthusiastic and confident journalist. It’s very difficult to believe he would commit suicide. More likely the Zionists killed him.)

    [MORE]

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/1613642792?ref_=k4w_embed_dp_err&tag=kpembed-20
    Made in Israel is formatted in a large, easy-to-read 8 ½ x 11 that consists of two main sections. The first half lays out in a clear, no frills style all the key players in the preparation and execution of these attacks and identifies their Jewish, Israeli and/or neo-con background. Thorn ends this portion of the book with these words. Any 9-11 truther who fails to expose Israel s role has, in essence, chosen to protect the worst killers among us. The second half of the book consists of 19 articles that Thorn has written on various other 9-11 subjects for AFP between 2008 and 2011. Victor Thorn once again compels us into realizing that all the focus on how 9-11 happened rather than who did it is really a form of cowardice at this point. The elephant in the room is really the undisputable fact that Israel was behind it. If we want the truth and nothing but the truth, there s no getting around that. The question is: can we handle the truth? –Pete Pappas – American Free Press

    About the Author
    Victor Thorn founded Sisyphus Press in the fall of 2000, and is the author of seventeen books, as well as thirteen other chapbooks. He has published the works of numerous writers in the alternative media, and has also produced five CD-ROMs and DVDs, one of which is a five-disc collection that covers the John F. Kennedy Assassination (Evidence of Revision). Thorn served as the editor of five anthologies, and his political articles have appeared in various newspapers around the country. He has also freelanced for magazines such as Paranoia and The Barnes Review. In February, 2001 Thorn founded Babel magazine, an online publication that ran until early 2004 and featured some of the first articles devoted to the 9-11 conspiracy. One of his books, The New World Order Exposed, was translated and published in Japan in 2006, while 9-11 on Trial has been republished by Progressive Press, and was also released in France to coincide with the fifth anniversary of 9-11. After co-hosting The Victor Thorn Show on the Reality Radio Network from 2002-2003, in February, 2004 he co-founded WING TV (World Independent News Group) which was a daily Internet television and radio talk show that was viewed in over 100 countries worldwide. In addition, he s been a weekly investigative reporter for American Free Press since 2007, while currently serving as AFP s assignment editor. Thorn has also made hundreds of different radio appearances (including Coast-to-Coast AM and The Lionel Show on WOR 710 in New York City) and has done weekly one-hour news updates on Alex Merklinger s Mysteries of the Mind, while also appearing weekly on Vyzygoth s From the Grassy Knoll and Frank Whalen s Frankly Speaking Radio. Thorn has been an avid political activist who spoke at the OKC Bombing tenth anniversary, as well as before the America First Party. He has also protested in six different states, not to mention at Ground Zero on several occasions and in front of the White House in Washington, DC.

    See also the review of this book. note that thorn publish this in 2006 in already was clearly in dieting the Israelis for the 9/11 attacks. His books are expensive because he died suspiciously a few years ago. The SPLC website gloats that he committed suicide and smugly places his death alongside a number of highly respected in prominent social critics such as Phyllis Schlafly:
    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2017/sunrise-sunset-five-leading-extremists-dead-2016


    9-11 EVIL: Israel’s Central Role in the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks

    This is the book the ADL and Jewish Lobby don t want you to read … or talk about. This is the book the government, mainstream media, gatekeepers, 9-11 Commission, distracters, obfuscators, deceivers, and those who want to keep a lid on 9-11 don t want you to read. This is the most dangerous 9-11 book ever written the final taboo the book that Lisa Guliani described as an atomic bomb after she finished reading it. This is the book that forever changes the way we ll look at 9-11. Of course there will be those who try to conceal, cover-up, and ignore this information even those in the 9-11 truth movement itself but here it is at long last. And yes, this data has been available in different locations for nearly five years a little bit here, a little bit there but never before has it been culled together all in one place so convincingly … and so damningly … and it hits harder than anything ever written on the subject of 9-11. This book doesn t play nice, and it s not lightweight in the least. Instead, this is hard-core, heavy-duty reality. We already know why 9-11 was done, and we already know how the WTC towers were destroyed (via controlled demolitions). But for some reason, most everyone wants to shy away from Who ultimately did 9-11. Oh sure, there are those who never go beyond the Bush-Cheney cabal, or those who blame it on faceless, shadowy entities like the New World Order, globalists, or the Illuminati. But these individuals all belong to a massive protection racket that will do anything humanly possible to keep the finger of blame from being pointed in a certain direction. And after seeing the atrocities being committed in the Middle East, we know what direction I m talking about. These people have even created pre-approved Orwellian scripts as to how we should speak about 9-11 in a politically-correct way. But the truth as pointed out in 9-11 Evil is far more brutal and immediate. The nation of Israel played a central, key role in the 9-11 terrorist attacks on our country, and now there is overwhelming proof beyond any reasonable doubt contained within the pages of 9-11 Evil. It s been nearly five years now. The big question is: do you have the guts to confront the TRUTH about 9-11, or will you opt to be an ostrich with its head in the sand, just like those who sit in front of their TVs watching CNN, FOX, and CBS; refusing to accept the fact that 9-11 was not only an inside job, but also an outside job … and the actual terrorists didn t reside in Afghani caves, or belong to a non-existent Nazi cult. No, al-Qaeda and the swastika are merely smokescreens conveniently used to mask another symbol the Star of David. Israel is 9-11 EVIL, and once you read this book, you ll never view this event in the same way again.

    Review
    Finally, a book about 9/11 that actually talks about the real perpetrators of that bloody swindle! Victor Thorn’s new blockbuster 9-11 EVIL bills itself as “the most dangerous 9-11 book ever written,” and is exactly that, because it blows the lid off the media suppression of Jewish involvement in the greatest crime ever perpetrated against the American people. Thorn, who with his partner Lisa Guliani have propelled their WING-TV Internet newscast into one of the most reputable on the web, is fast becoming the Ralph Nader of the 9-11 movement, after his many a celebrated outings of corporate shills Mike Ruppert and Alex Jones. Thorn writes: “The attacks on New York City and Washington DC nearly five years ago were only the beginning, and if we don’t fully recognize who the real enemy is and stop it dead in its tracks right now, I guarantee that at some point in the near future, we won’t have another opportunity such as this to save ourselves.” What does Thorn’s book do that all the other voluminous examinations of 9-11 don’t do? It points the finger squarely at the Mossad, at Israel, and Jews in general. The crime of the century has many co-conspirators. What did happen on 9/11? Thorn writes: 1. The WTC Towers did not collapse due to plane hits or fire … they were crippled by controlled emolitons that were well planned in advance; 2. Flight 77 did not strike the Pentagon. 3. The crash site in Pennsylvania was not caused by Flight 93. Thorn lists the best 9-11 books that form the core of his research, and sources the most reputable empirical 9/11 researchers, those who don’t wander into fanciful high-tech explanations. Prominent among his sources are author Michael Collins Piper and webmaster Michael Rivero, whose whatreallyhappened.com website has provided a news package as reliable and focused as any site on the web. With the same everyman panache that made his previous 9-11 book, 9-11 on Trial such an easy and valuable read, Thorn creates composite dialogues that flesh out the utter ludicrousness and savage betrayal that the official story inflicted on free people everywhere. Why are Israel and the Mossad and Jews in general all behind the 9/11 caper? Thorn answers with a thorough survey of all the existing evidence, beginning with Netanyahu’s snide comment on the day of the tragedy. “It’s very good,” he said, referring to the event’s benefit to Israel. Why were so many Israelis apprehended around the U.S. shortly after the attacks in suspicious circumstances all magically released and flown home to Israel? And why does the 9-11 skeptics movement, anchored by commercial, pro-Israel shills like Alex Jones and Meria Heller, remain silent on this all-important question? Thorn’s interpretation of how the entire 9-11 skeptics movement has been diverted in an array of convoluted directions provides an important checklist of hazards awaiting new researchers. 1. Vague descriptions of the masterminds of permanent war like New World Order deflect from identifying the real perps. 2. Popular media personalities insert their agendas into mass movements. 3. Use a religious figure to accurately describe what happened on 9/11, but he fails to mention the most important point, namely, who did it. 4. Use paid back-room moles to infiltrate every possible 9-11 chat room, message board, and forum to create as much din, disruption, noise , and chaos as possible which constantly litters and pollutes the soup, effectively preventing most people from focusing on Israel s central role in 9-11. 5. Minutia, rhetoric, and circular arguments to lead people down a maze of endless rabbit holes. –John Kaminski

    Who was really behind the controlled demolition of three buildings of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, along with the other incidents in Pennsylvania and at the Pentagon? In his new book, 9-11 Evil: Israel’s Central Role in the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks, Victor Thorn points his finger at the one entity that most other authors (even in the so-called 9-11 truth movement) prefer not to even mention: Israel. Thorn makes a convincing case that Israel-firsters were responsible for the mysterious Pentagon stand-down that allowed the attack on America to proceed. Thorn also contends that Zionists infiltrated Air Force One and threatened President Bush on the morning of September 11, 2001 with electronic capabilities even more sophisticated than those of the NSA. Many patriots, who rightly dismiss the impossible official 9-11 explanation as a mere conspiracy theory, alas, are convinced that the real 9-11 plot was hatched with the selection or election of George W. Bush in 2000. In reality, writes Thorn, it is an integral part of a Zionist cluster of conspiracies going back at least to the 1960s, and Bush is merely a puppet playing his small part in the overall scheme. In one gem from the book, the authors point out that a series of power-downs occurred in the WTC towers on the weekend prior to 9-11. With the electricity knocked out, the security cameras, electric locks and other security devices were disabled. This means an ideal opportunity existed for agents to go through the buildings, planting bombs. Thorn says the evidence for this comes from the statements of Scott Forbes, a computer analyst for WTC occupant Fiduciary Trust. Thorn adds that the first suspects arrested within hours of the attack were the Dancing Israelis, the Israelis on the roof of the buildings who were seen laughing and pointing to the WTC as it was falling. The man who eventually freed them was Michael Chertoff, whose family was involved in the creation of the state of Israel. Also involved is a demented wealthy-beyond-wealthy rabbi, Dov Zakheim, say Thorn and Guliani. Zakheim, they tell us, is the man who filched more then \$2 trillion (yes, that s trillion) from the Pentagon, making him the biggest thief in history. Zakheim, former comptroller in the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense, was one of the architects, along with some other rabid Zionists, of a document called Rebuilding America s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century, published by the Project for a New American Century. This document, which has been dubbed the blueprint for the 9-11 attack, called for some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor as being necessary to foster the frame of mind needed for the American public to finance and die in a war in the Middle East that would politically reshape the region for the benefit of Israel and Zionists in power in the United States. Israeli firms were in charge of security at the WTC and airports on 9-11, writes Thorn. The media involved in covering everything up is dominated by Zionists. The lease on the World Trade Center complex had been purchased not long before the attack by Larry Silverstein, a Zionist, whose mortgage holder in turn was a Zionist. Silverstein had direct ties to two of Israel s most hawkish prime ministers: Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu. The man who arranged the deal was a Zionist, plus the CEO of the Blackstone Group, which was heavily involved, was a Zionist. After reading 9-11 Evil which is dedicated to AFP correspondent Mike Piper it is hard to deny Israel s involvement in this act of state-sponsored terrorism. Thorn offesr a crescendo of evidence demonstrating that 9-11 was not only an inside job executed by Israeli-loyal neo-cons within the U.S –John Tiffany – American Free Press

    Victor Thorn’s new book, 9-11 Evil, Israel’s Central Role in the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks, takes 9-11 research and reporting to a whole new level by providing much-needed answers to the most crucial questions regarding the attacks of September 11: exactly WHO planned and carried out this abominable crime against humanity, and WHY in God’s name would anyone do something this horrible? What was the psychology and the psychopathology involved? How did the perpetrators rationalize these unconscionable acts of mass murder? What were their sinister and evil motivations? And who – above all others – stood to benefit most from this heinous crime against all of humanity? For when we answer that one critical question of who benefited most, we most likely have answered the ultimate question: who was the perpetrator? We already know the “how” of September 11. Other researchers, including Victor Thorn himself in a previous book, 9-11 on Trial, which discussed the collapse of the WTC towers and Building 7, have thoroughly exposed the forensics of 9-11, such as the fact that the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled demolition, that no Boeing 757 impacted the Pentagon, and that Flight 93 – or whatever it was – was most likely shot down and did not strike the ground intact in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, as we were told by government and media sources. These are relatively easy questions to answer, and the 9-11 “Truth Movement” has done a fairly good job of answering them, but the question of “who” is a much more difficult one to deal with, because it involves actually pointing the finger of blame at the actual perpetrators themselves, at the specific, ruthless individuals and entities that were criminally liable. This takes tremendous courage to directly confront evil of this magnitude, and the author of this book should be commended for doing so. Too often when we ask this vital question of who the actual 9-11 perpetrators are, we are offered vague, nebulous, non-specific answers, such as the globalist did it, or the New World Order was to blame. Either that or we’re told that Bush & Cheney or the Bush Administration are the individuals or entities that were ultimately responsible. This serves only to muddy the water and to distract our attention away from the actual perpetrator. The cold, hard facts laid out in this book, which may very well turn out to be the most important ever written on the subject of 9-11, lead the reader to only one conclusion: Israel did it, and ISRAEL ultimately is the 9-11 Evil. –Michael Langston

    About the Author
    Victor Thorn founded Sisyphus Press in the fall of 2000, and is the author of seventeen books, as well as thirteen other chapbooks. He has published the works of numerous writers in the alternative media, and has also produced five CD-ROMs and DVDs, one of which is a five-disc collection that covers the John F. Kennedy Assassination (Evidence of Revision). Thorn served as the editor of five anthologies, and his political articles have appeared in various newspapers around the country. He has also freelanced for magazines such as Paranoia and The Barnes Review. In February, 2001 Thorn founded Babel magazine, an online publication that ran until early 2004 and featured some of the first articles devoted to the 9-11 conspiracy. One of his books, The New World Order Exposed, was translated and published in Japan in 2006, while 9-11 on Trial has been republished by Progressive Press, and was also released in France to coincide with the fifth anniversary of 9-11. After co-hosting The Victor Thorn Show on the Reality Radio Network from 2002-2003, in February, 2004 he co-founded WING TV (World Independent News Group) which was a daily Internet television and radio talk show that was viewed in over 100 countries worldwide. In addition, he s been a weekly investigative reporter for American Free Press since 2007 while currently serving as AFP s assignment editor in 2011. Thorn has also made hundreds of different radio appearances (including Coast-to-Coast AM and The Lionel Show on WOR 710 in New York City) and has done weekly one-hour news updates on Alex Merklinger s Mysteries of the Mind, while also appearing weekly on Vyzygoth s From the Grassy Knoll and Frank Whalen s Frankly Speaking Radio. Thorn has been an avid political activist who spoke at the OKC Bombing tenth anniversary, as well as before the America First Party. He has also protested in six different states, not to mention at Ground Zero on several occasions and in front of the White House in Washington, DC.

  81. Jihadijew says:
    @04398436986

    You are a genius in your own mind.
    Are you a Rabbi?
    A paid writer for Israeli Intelligence? I dont understand why everyone is after Mossad leaving the real culprits.

    Or simply a volunteer who hates non Jews specially Christians.

  82. cohen says:

    I can not imagine the Israelis would do anything like 911 without the go ahead of US. And who is/are the US characters in chain of commands.

    May be groups like anonymous or wikileak (whatever is left of it) could do a public favor to expose the real culprits. That would be the day.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  83. Rurik says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    your believing untrustworthy sources without reflecting on it or checking I am reluctant to take much notice of your enthusiasm for the evidence of whoever claimed discovery of ..

    good God what a tiresome old windbag of shit your are, Lizard

    Don’t you see by now how utterly disgusted everyone is by now of your idiotic, pompous trolling?

    I guess it’s like something I read about dead people. They don’t know they’re dead. Only the living know they’re dead. It’s the same with stupid people.. they have no comprehension of how stupid they are. So they blather on and on..

    With you it’s vapid, insipid, rhetorical puke. Regurgitated over and over and over in the hapless Mr. Unz beleaguered site.

    But since you’re the one doing the puking, and sitting there covered in your own vomit, you don’t smell it, but the rest of us do.

    ‘hey Ron, what you’re doing is not ‘good for the Jews’

    Hey Ron, hey Ron.. Hey Ron.. Hey Ron..

    • Thanks: utu
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  84. It seems a large percentage of the population is worshiping the Anus (see Golden Ass) which is represented by 11. They also know 9 is the sacred number. Sometimes they say 9-1-1 on purpose which represents emergency. None of this is coincidental. A mass ritual. Next is Christ Mass.

    The symbols are everywhere.

  85. @ImaBotKnot

    Ah Me! could thou and I with Fate conspire

    To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire,

    Would not we shatter it to bits — and then

    Re-mould it nearer to the Heart’s Desire!”

    By O. K.

    Ask Jesus to Save you. Do not do evil things.

    Book Suggestion The Rubaiyat of a Persian Kitten by Oliver Herford.

  86. Jim H says:

    ‘Israel gets yet another pass.’ — Philip Giraldi

    Nicely understated.

    Much circumstantial evidence supports this conclusion. Classified evidence that would prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt likely has been tampered with or destroyed.

    That atrocity was 20 years ago. But what is Israel demonstrably getting a free pass on today — in broad daylight, with no lack of proof?

    Answer: its well-documented but officially undisclosed nuclear weapons, which the US disgracefully and treasonously cooperates in keeping ambiguous.

    For all the oceans of ink and hundreds of thousands of hours of diplomatic and analysts’ time devoted to the Iranian nuclear deal, Iran’s potential future nuclear capability is a minor sideshow compared to the here-and-now threat of truculent nuclear-armed Israel, bombing and rocketing its neighbors without restraint.

    What could possibly go wrong? When the inevitable disaster occurs, the United States will be clearly, indefensibly on the hook for knowingly, with malice aforethought, aiding and abetting its occurrence for decades, with the collaboration of every president since the 1970s.

    Israel is humanity’s misfortune.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  87. Rurik says:
    @cohen

    I can not imagine the Israelis would do anything like 911 without the go ahead of US.

    USS Liberty

    or just consider Jonathon Pollard,

    That treasonous rat was freed and hailed in Israel as a great, triumphant hero,

    in full view of the entire American nation, and with the complete (treasonous) complicity of the president of the United States.

    IOW, they can do anything, betray our nation’s most sacred secrets, kill our citizens with total impunity, perpetrate war crimes, lie, steal, cheat, murder..

    and not one national politician has the courage or decency to call them out.

    So 9/11 was really a walk in the park.

    Even now that we all know they did it, the pall of cowardice and corruption hangs over America like a veil of evil- rotting away at every institution, and the very souls of the people.

    Thanks Jews

  88. @Trinity

    Are yo really so naive, or you are pretending ?
    But still here it is.
    There are two rules in society that will never change.

    Golden rule:
    Those who have the gold rule.

    Second.
    Everybody can be bought if the price is right.

  89. Z-man says:

    To me it’s preaching to the choir but it’s always good for Phil to share with the masses and remind others not to forget or get distracted as to who the real enemy is and who really did 911, Izrael and Zionists.

  90. Trinity says:

    It really takes a special kind of evil to commit an act as heinous as the attacks on the WTC buildings and then be evil enough to pin the blame on others who had nothing whatsoever to do with the attacks. Where I live we had a young mother and father who killed there own kid. Wait. It gets even more diabolical, they faced the cameras, looked right into them, and loudly criticized law enforcement for not finding the killers. The father was a helluva actor, the lying sack of shit never even batted an eye.

    Millions of lives lost, 2.3 trillion lost/stolen, etc. Yep, we have a really group of competent leaders running America, it is almost as if they want to destroy America on purpose. What Jew think?

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @Weaver
  91. GMC says:
    @Agent76

    It’s a shame that place wasn’t wired like the twin towers were.

  92. moi says:
    @Bite Moi

    After Jews and Hindus, Christians lie the most.

  93. @Rurik

    You come across as such a deranged idiot that I gave up reading you a long time ago. But this was directed to me so I read it. I wasted my time. There was not a word that even purported to relate to anything I had said. Your own word “vomit” describes it pretty well.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Anon
  94. Weaver says:

    You don’t trust Hindus? What about Buddhists and other religions? What about Shia vs Sunni and odd sects like the Druze?

    • Replies: @babu
  95. Weaver says:
    @Trinity

    I think the intended goal was as they stated: rebuild Iraq into Texas, then freedomise Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Yemen, etc. Another possible explanation was to just turn all power centers into rubble, reduce populations, increase divides and tensions, ensure no threat could arise, prevent Arab nationalism.

    There’s some twisted strategy, but it didn’t work. Armenia seems ruined long term (recently by Turkey/Azeri). Christians are more the target than Muslims in these wars, whatever the case. Ironically, people warned removing Saddam would help Iran; the results were predicted.

    As for the US, we’re supposed to become a mixed electorate which lacks identity and can be shaped as elites want without trouble, relocated anywhere without trouble.

    Many whites actually believe the US has always been diverse, a nation of immigrants, etc. They don’t even know America has been transformed several times, especially in 1965. And immigration rates were far lower than today.

    In retrospect, maybe the US should have stayed under Britain. Freedom seems to have failed worse than ever imagined. I think the strategy elites are using in the US is also failing though. Only whites like globohomo, which is just meant to reduce births, disrupt the family institution.

  96. Anonymous[228] • Disclaimer says:

    In the mid eighties In my advance dynamics class the professor who held PhD in mechanical engineering from MIT said the trade center buildings would withstand a jumbo jet. And the collision the building would sway back and forth, acts like a spring. If the buildings were hit by an object weighing more than 100 tons, traveling at 542MPH hitting it at about 700 ft above the ground and angle of attack is roughly 90 degrees and the building falls down vertically, how is that possible? Even with controlled demolition, if buildings weren’t standing still, how could they fall perfectly vertical? Think about it.

  97. Weaver says:
    @Trinity

    Look at Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years: Bolshevik Jews were in power for a time in Russia, though only 4% of population. Stalin apparently displaced them, with time, even though far more were brought into Russia through expansion. As Unz noted, the funding for the Bolsheviks came from the US, from US capitalism.

    I think WASP political ideals and values are also just easy to take over. It’s like a workers’ ideology begging for a ruling class to take it over. For example, we didn’t value cultural pursuits, didn’t see them as important. But the Greeks knew they were important. Plus we got greedy, imported workers, and we came to worship Jews. And we couldn’t bear being called racist; our culture rejected a strong enough racial identity, even though we started with it.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  98. It was the Saudis. Yet neo-con zionists used the attack to invade a couple of m00slime quagmires making themselves billions war profiteering.

  99. babu says:

    We know who did it; but it is a moot point because even if one could deliver eye witness, video, audio evidence along with signed confessions of the perpetrators, the ZOG US government is in no position to deliver justice

    • Agree: Z-man
  100. babu says:
    @Weaver

    except for the Muslim Taliban who lie the most.

  101. Iris says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I chuckled when I read that you, of all people, are calling someone else a deranged idiot.

    Although I give it to you, I am half wrong: your activism is deliberate, not “deranged” , you are just a Zionist “idiot”.

  102. @Trinity

    Bibi merely stated the flaming obvious; indeed I guess a case could be made
    from it against foreknowledge
    (with time he might have thought of a more nuanced response).

    (… not that I doubt it was a Mossad job, mind you)

  103. Tjoe says:

    You miss a huge part. The preparations went to the top of the US government while they were outing our pervert President Bill. The jewess Monica was set up by Hilda and Epstein people, to not give the Epstein honey trap up and intact….undetected. The coup included Hilda. She hated bill for proving to the world that she could not keep her man satisfied. They promised her the presidency…..and put her in as NY Senator….a key facilitating position INSIDE.

    Bush knew the plan and had signed off before he was president. He knew it was going down and he let them do it. Watch his face when told it started….he knew and was contemplating his own betrayal of trust. It was the face of JUDAS. The face of a traitor. Watch it on YouTube.

    They promised Hillary the presidency but Obama came along. He was malleable and quickly was co-opted., so they made her SS and showered money on the Clinton foundation. But Trump blew her mind. Even Mossad didn’t think Trump would win as is evidenced by the Lolita express log…..26 times for Bill Clinton and one for Trump.

    Imagine being offered to be ruler of the world if you helped murder 3000 of your countrymen, doing it, then not being paid what was promised. Twice.

    • Replies: @Jim H
  104. Canute says:

    I grow very weary of listening to various angles as to who did 9/11, how and why. To anyone who has followed most of the revealing information published at this site alone, the fact that Israel was behind the entire thing appears evident and overwhelming. Were Jews protected on that day in New York? Why doesn’t someone ask for Mayor Ed Koch, who was spreading the word to his tribe and paving the way for Israel to shed a few more goyim on its way to capturing the entire US military….for free.

  105. And yet the stupid voters of Wyoming voted in Liz Cheney. Why, because they recognize her name? Name brand? Same as dumb Utah voters vote in Romney? You mean that’s why you vote for someone – because you know the name? 2021 democracy is a farce.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @jsm
  106. @Jim H

    Israel is humanity’s misfortune.

    Indeed.
    In the days before Israel it was stated more broadly, German history Professor H. von Treitschke being the first to say “The Jews are our Misfortune” in a popular pamphlet mid-19 Century, later same phrase was used by others.
    Possibly more Jews will see that Israel is their misfortune also …

    http://scihi.org/heinrich-von-treitschke/

    • Replies: @Weaver
  107. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @mulga mumblebrain

    The Jews who reach global eminence in the arts, letters, science, technology, academia etc

    All those ((Jews)) in media, government, science, academia etc. who rubber stamp bullshit narratives like 9/11 and covid “vaccines”? Who professionally and financially benefit from the “War on Terror,” the MIC, the MSM complex, the “science” of Big Pharma, etc… the “soft” Zionist rackets?

    All self-identifying ((Jews)) are Zionists, or their brainwashed and bribed victims/accomplices. That’s what makes all ((Jew))-stooges and their apologists evil, too. Junior ZOG accomplices.

  108. Jim H says:
    @Tjoe

    ‘Imagine being offered to be ruler of the world if you helped murder 3000 of your countrymen, doing it, then not being paid what was promised. Twice.’ — Tjoe

    Hurtful. Very hurtful.

    And all the fault of toxic, cheating males.

    I’d probably lock myself inside in retirement, scarf down Twinkies and white wine till I weighed 300 lbs and couldn’t walk … but would still feel superior to a dementia (or syphilis?) crippled spouse whose vacant mouth now lolls open catching flies.

    It’s not gonna be easy to feign tears at his funeral.

  109. anonymous[109] • Disclaimer says:
    @Phibbs

    Is this your parody of a limited hangout, suggesting Israel was aware of but not actually responsible for pulling it off? Read, for example, Christopher Bollyn’s exhaustive and overwhelmingly persuasive circumstantial evidence of Eretz Israel’s guilt, bearing in mind that Eretz (Greater) Israel has about an equal number of Jews, although far more Mossad operatives, who reside in the United States as reside in Israel proper.

  110. nsa says:

    Someone has to say it: the Izzies could admit to foreknowledge of the 911 false flag (a few renegade spooks got carried away?) and Amelikans would gladly bend over and take the cut cock up the butt. The Izzies could even admit to purposefully using muzzie useful idiots to knock the buildings down in order to get Amelika involved in destroying their enemies (to fulfill a biblical prophecy?) and Amelikans would still gladly bend over and take the cut cock up the butt. The 911 false flag is just the USS Liberty writ large….bomb and torpedo the vessel and strafe the lifeboats followed by a coverup and Amelikans gladly taking the cut cock up the butt. One can only conclude that Amelikans like to take the cut cock up the butt.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  111. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The Federal Investigation of 9/11 Ignored Recorded, Eyewitness Accounts of Firefighters Who Heard Explosions Just Before the Towers Collapsed

    From October 2001 through January 2002, the eyewitness accounts of FDNY firefighters, paramedics and EMTs were recorded at the instruction of Thomas Von Essen, the New York City Fire Commissioner. Americans owe that man a deep debt of gratitude. Any criminal investigation would necessarily require a transcribed accounting from the eyewitnesses to the crime. (To ignore that evidence is to suggest that the official narrative of the crime had already been decided.)

    The New York Times filed a Freedom of Information Law (FOIL) request for those records in February 2002. Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s administration refused to make them public and the Times had to go to court against the city. The Times won the suit and announced it was making the records public on August 12, 2005. The trove became known as the FDNY Oral Histories. All 503 oral histories are available here.

    Using those FDNY Oral Histories, Graeme MacQueen, a retired professor at McMaster University in Ontario, found that 118 of those interviewed had indicated that they had heard explosions at the scene on 9/11. MacQueen released his report on August 21, 2006 in the Journal of 9/11 Studies.

    We read those 118 interviews and selected the five below as examples of the evidence of explosions that NIST dismissed out of hand when it wrote that no corroborating evidence of explosions to support a thesis of controlled demolition existed.

    https://wallstreetonparade.com/2021/09/the-federal-investigation-of-9-11-ignored-recorded-eyewitness-accounts-of-firefighters-who-heard-explosions-just-before-the-towers-collapsed/

    Procrastination, obfuscation, dillydallyimg , fobbing peopel off , setting an investiqgtion designed to fail ,and not addresssing the security gaps show that higher ups were involved or sat on the wheel asleep .
    The record speed shown by other to enggae America into war with Islam by starting war with Iraq showed that the foregn and local neoccons knew those omissiosn , lapses,and blind disregatd of threats . Neoocns were ready to spill the truth and to force impeachment of Bush if war did not follow they way they wanted from Iraq to Arafta’s compound to Libya and Sudan .

    • Thanks: Iris, Ron Unz
    • Replies: @utu
  112. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:

    One strange coincidence is that Muslims and Jews all vote on the same side, left, along with 9/11 truthers. Sixty-nine percent of Muslims voted for Biden. I’m sure it was closer to 100 for Obama.
    So your dancing Israeli’s could also be supporters of Palestine, you’d be surprised at how many there are even in the CIA like you Mr. Giraldi. But anti-American activities aren’t allowed to be outed if the work for the CIA. Did anyone go to jail over Valerie Plame?

  113. @Trinity

    You bring up the most excellent points, Trinity. Does the whole Congress go into obsequious mode when the leader of say, Switzerland comes visiting? No it does not. I don’t really grasp the whole dimensions of the thing. I have met many many Jewish people that have the most excellent characters. No really. They have done things that no Anglo is likely to do. For example, the daughter of a family was hit by a car and required extensive hospital care. The family did not know how they would pay the bills. The Jewish family next door loaned them the money with no interest and no time requirement to pay it back. Being an honorable family, they paid back as soon as they could. I did not read this from some magazine or newspaper but experienced it first hand.

    My own Mom, used to work for rich Hollywood Jews back in the mid nineteen fifties. One family had a grandmother who would constantly bother by Mom about how the Jews were treated in Germany. My mother was German. The kids of the women, constantly told my mom to “just ignore her.” But she would patiently listen anyway.

    Another family she worked for was orthodox. The husbands only concern seemed to be that my Mom wash the dishes a certain way and if she didn’t the sin would be on her. lol She ignored his advice and instead spent the time she worked that day in cleaning the oven which so impressed the wife that she kept saying it’s like she has a new oven.

    The Jews that are so irritating to myself personally are the activist type. Some of them are so crazy that they actually endanger their own children by allowing them to get into situations that can either get them killed or physically maimed in some way. I’m sure other Jews consider these types near crazy too. But being like most people are, just ignore them.

    I have no doubt that some are plain evil. When Jerry Nadler was asked by a reporter on what he thought of the burning , looting and killing of people two summers ago, he said that this never happened. He stated this as if it were the most natural thing in the world to say. That is evil.

    Was he challenged by a group of Americans anywhere at the time. No he was not. Where we Americans could make a difference, we don’t. Instead we flee to places the evil operate in and are satisfied. I’m just expressing my feelings about why I have never liked words like , all, every, all of, etc.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  114. Iris says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I am reluctant to take much notice of your enthusiasm for the evidence of whoever claimed discovery of military grade nano thermite (a compound of aluminium and iron of which there was an abundance).

    What a great example of a “chutzpesque” argument: science does not exist because the Wazzock of Zion has decided so.

    Nanothermite collected at the WTC was analysed by scientists, whose findings were peer-reviewed, confirmed and published in a 2009 article in the prestigious Open Chemical Physics Journal.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228660396_Active_Thermitic_Material_Discovered_in_Dust_from_the_911_World_Trade_Center_Catastrophe

    There is nothing “abundant” about nanothermite: the particle size under 100 nano-meters was obtained only recently and artificially. In 2001, nanothermite was a military-grade explosive being secretly developed, which had only been presented in confidential military conferences, and was available only to the US and Israel.

  115. Weaver says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    They need some place to go. Russia thought of sending them to Crimea but decided that would be too politically risky (see 200 Years, the one book I cite here.) Crimea would have been nice; I guess the then residents would have been booted out, but maybe that’s easier? There’s a frozen Russian state that’s nominally Jewish, that was made for them.

    They tried taking another’s lands in Palestine. You just can’t do that easily.

    Where can WASPs go…

  116. Trinity says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Nadler, Schumer and Schiff are indeed slimy characters. Pelosi, a self admitted shabbos goy isn’t exactly Mother Teresa either. Must have inherited her father’s genes. Republicans are not much better. Cheney and the Bush family. How did America ever wind up with caca like this running our nation?

  117. Sarah says:
    @Agent76

    Good share Sarah! 

    Thank you !
    Trump mentioned several hypotheses in the video I published: explosives but also two planes or a heavy and strong plane able to pierce the steel wall of WTF (in this video we see the damage that a bird did on the nose of a commercial plane.

    Are there massive, dark gray commercial aircraft like the one in the bombing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsmc_rS2jOo

    The idea that came to me was that of an airplane with a reinforced nose and fuselage or maybe even with an bomb in the nose tip.

    However, this does not explain how the wings could also pierce the steel wall.

    A B52 can carry 30 metric tons of bombs. So why not an empty plane carrying 30 tons of steel reinforcement at the nose and leading edge of the wings?

    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
  118. @A Half Naked Fakir

    And an increase from \$3.3b/mo to \$3.8b/mo for the false flag!

  119. Sean says:

    Jamal Khashoggi’s close friendship with Osama bin Ladenhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-9709545
    21 Jun 2021 — Murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi was a close friend of Osama bin Laden and cried when the al-Qaeda leader died, it has been revealed

    Also an extremely close associate of the head of Saudi intelligence. Khashoggi knew too much.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  120. Art says:

    One avenue of inquiry not covered – is who did the US government 9/11 investigation.

    If memory serves – all the major investigation players where pro-Israel. US Zionists (Jew and Gentile) where in leadership positions able to hide information and mislead paths of valid interrogation.

    This fact only adds to the perception of Israeli involvement in 9/11.

    Zionism Occupies America.

    • Agree: Iris
  121. @Trinity

    Is not the whole America! It’s the greedy and corrupt officials/politicians in the US who are slavish that selling themselves cheap for contributions! Who has the money to satisfy their greed for money/power? You know the answer to the question.
    The Americans can only be blamed for their apathy and for not making enough contributions to the campaigns in order to own their Reps. So the Reps will look for other sources and in return they become subservient to the major contributors. Thus the reason for Mr Roberts to name them as “Plostitude”.

  122. Agent76 says:
    @Sarah

    All of the visuals were made up Hollywood style. This is a firefighter there that day and morning. It doesn’t get any better than this.

    May 25, 2014 FDNY 9/11 Survivor Witness and Whistleblower Speaks on WTC 7

    Listen very carefully starting at the ’20’ second mark! As a firefighter on 9/11, he was at Ground Zero and was there when Building 7 came down.

    • Agree: Tjoe
    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Sarah
    , @Sarah
  123. Turk 152 says:

    I dont find the crime itself particularly revealing; there are plenty of States that could have pulled it off; (Add Russians, Chinese and various Arab regimes to the Usual Suspects). If 9/11 ended with the explosions, it would have been much easier to hide.

    It is not the bombing’s that are revealing, it is the enormous scale of the cover up with its redirection of the military into scapegoating Iraq and Afghanistan that could only have been pulled off by the most powerful people in the world. The US Executive Branch, the legislators, the CIA, the FBI, the media not only in the US but throughout the world all played along with 9/11 story. The only group with that much power are Israel, the Bush Clan, City of London Banksters; anyone else would have been totally destroyed.

    • Disagree: Tjoe
  124. @Agent76

    If it was a twin engine passenger plane hitting the Pentagon then I would expect two additional impact locations where those heavy engines hit the facade. Did the engines enter the Pentagon through that single hole?

    • Replies: @RichardDuck
  125. We know what brought the buildings down, all of the evidence points to controlled demolitions.
    (forget the planes, they are the distraction)

    Now that the real “how” is established, the “who” follows – Mr Silverstein, by his own words

    • Agree: Mevashir, Iris
    • Replies: @The Real World
  126. @JLK

    As far as I can see, everyone who says the “how” tends to assume their own default form of “how” without always spelling it out. One place where the “how” is going to have a huge influence in determining any assessment is the Dancing Israelis story. It’s known that Larry Silverstein was reported as a “close friend” of Ariel Sharon:

    http://www.haaretz.com/1.5462012

    In such conditions there is no way that anyone who was not similarly close would have gotten themselves involved in planting bombs in the building. If some people from the CIA got together with a few Islamic extremists and decided to plant bombs in the Towers as a joke on Silverstein then there is a very high chance that they would be caught by the Mossad and subject to blackmail. That fact that Silverstein was so close to Sharon rules out any bombs-in-the-buildings conspiracy-scenario which does not place the Mossad at the center of the picture. This, in turn, must determine how one evaluates the Dancing Israelis story.

    But if we allow that the buildings probably just collapsed from plane impacts then the Dancing Israelis story, while still of interest, takes on a very different coloring. Most 911truthers who cite the Dancing Israelis story do so in a way which implies that not only did these 5 Mossad agents know exactly what was about to happen, but that the Israeli government had had such knowledge well in advance of the attacks. This has not been confirmed at all so far.

    It is known that in August the Israeli government gave a report to the US government which warned of a likely attack. The report did not have the specifics laid out however. Should we believe that the Israeli government really did know in August about how the attack was going to be carried out, and that the August warning was really just a red herring meant to mask their own culpability? That’s an interesting hypothesis, but there is no evidence for it so far. The Israeli government may have been sharing its best available intelligence in August.

    Putting aside the issue of what the Israeli government really knew in August, should the Dancing Israelis be taken as evidence that by the date of 911 the Israeli government had everything figured and was not withholding information from the FBI? Again, all one can honestly say is that the hypothesis is interesting but unproven. It is not even clear that those 5 Dancing Israelis really knew exactly what was going to happen, although it seems clear that they had some foreknowledge. Did they really know that planes would flown into the buildings or did they just have word of some kind of expected terrorist strike? Even if one assumes that they knew exactly how 911 was going to be carried out, it does not follow that their superiors in Israel had such knowledge. The history of spying is filled with stories about agents at the ground level finding out something important at the last minute without being able to successfully pass the information up the ladder to the higher-ups in time to make a difference.

    One thing which often influences discussion about the Dancing Israelis is that they seem to have evinced a smug cocky attitude. The reference to them as “Dancing” is meant to convey this. However, such a cocky attitude by agents at the ground level is not evidence that the higher Israeli officials were trying to conceal anything. It could almost be read the other way around. If Israeli officials were really trying to conceal something from the US government then they would have good reason to order that all of their agents maintain good decorum. The smugness expressed by the 5 Israelis works against a conspiratorial view, to the extent that it matters at all.

    The cockiness evinced by the Dancing Israelis is actually similar to some of the smug remarks which Churchill made about Stalin after Barbarossa was launched. Churchill had indeed warned Stalin on several occasions before June 22, 1941, and he pledged British assistance to the USSR once the invasion had been launched. But Churchill also threw his own share of caustic remarks suggesting that Stalin was getting some of what he had asked for. In the early period of the war Churchill had believed that the USSR would be effectively ruined by the war one way or another. He didn’t want to see Hitler emerge as the main power of Europe and so chose to give aid to Stalin, but Churchill did not at all expect that the USSR would come out of the war as the leading Eurasian power.

    In that context Churchill made some comments implying that Stalin was getting his just desserts, and if such comments were taken out of context they might even seem to imply that Churchill did not really wish to warn Stalin of Barbarossa. But we know that he did try to warn Stalin of this. It was just that there were differences between Churchill and Stalin going on in the background, differences which would emerge in the Cold War. Likewise, with regards to the Dancing Israelis the attitude expressed by some of these lower level agents is essentially irrelevant. What is important here is what did Sharon, Netanyahu et al know, when did they know, and what did they communicate in messages to the US. So far nothing about this really confirms a conspiracy-scenario, although one can hypothesize such.

    But how all of the above is going to be evaluated by an analysis is going to have to hinge very much on do we believe the controlled demolition version or not. So the “how” is very much influencing our assessment of the 5 Ws.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @JLK
  127. HVM says:

    I was in Peru and Ecuador a few weeks before 9/11. While sitting at a bar I met a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen who thought I agreed with the neocon agenda. To his chagrin, I had a mind of my own and did not concur. To make a long story short, he got hot headed (as Israelis do when you do not agree with the plan), and blurted we will get you Americans to do the fighting for us.

    Anyway, I never trusted the Israelis after that point. I share the view of Paul Craig Roberts. It is clear that the intention was to launch neoconservative wars in the Middle East to reshape it for Israel, oil, and corporate state interests such as Halliburton. Today our Middle Eastern foreign policy and intelligence is made in Tel Aviv which controls Foggy Bottom and Langley. Make no mistake of this fact. I am sure Dr. Giraldi does not need this spelled out.

    What is truly outrageous is that someone as partisan as Cheney from the New American Century group was given reigns over the 9/11 commission. It his report was as badly done as the Warren Commission.

    Strangely, while stopping overnight in a hotel in Miami on my way home from Ecuador, I was in an elevator with some men of Islamic origin who kind of looked like Atta and his boys. I said Allah Akbar to them. It probably was not any of the hijackers, but it felt like a weird coincidence when 9/11 occurred.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @anon
  128. Mevashir says:
    @HVM

    A similar thing happened to me when I was in South Africa. 9/11 occurred about 10 days before Rosh Hashanah that year. I met some Jews from New York who were visiting relatives in Johannesburg for the holiday. They too started gloating how 9/11 would force the US to fight Israel’s wars on its behalf. I already had been reading 9/11 truth information and felt Fury towards these smug and arrogant people.

    • Agree: Tjoe
    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @RichardDuck
  129. dimples says:
    @saggy

    I agree, who dunnit is far less interesting than how it was dun, certainly at this early stage. It’s either the Jews or Zionists or USMIC so take your pick. Who cares?

    As to how it was dun, well I haven’t read anything yet that makes complete sense, yet it ought to be possible from the amount of evidence available. I am talking about sense here, not no-planes and nuke fruitcakes thanks.

    • Replies: @Uncle Jon
  130. Mevashir says:
    @Patrick McNally

    None of your convoluted speculations would matter at all if there had been a proper commission of inquiry authorized by a grand jury with the power to subpoena witnesses and make them swear to tell the truth. You also ignore the fact that there was bomb residue in the van used by the Israelis. Plus the large amount of money and the false passports etc.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  131. Mevashir says:
    @nsa

    About 10 years ago, when I was very actively publicizing 9/11 truth, I met a Christian Zionist who read my information and then smiled looked me in the eye and said:

    “The Jews are God’s chosen people. And the Israelis are the best and bravest of the Jews. If it’s really true that they orchestrated 9/11, then that just means it was God’s will because one America is a corrupt and evil Nation and two in order to drag us into war to protect the interests of God’s chosen.”

    I would wager that most Christian Zionists and evangelicals have this attitude even if they haven’t thought it out carefully. And therefore it is impossible to move America into a more even-handed approach to the Middle East. And certainly the truth about 9/11 will never be revealed.

    • Replies: @jsm
    , @Iris
  132. utu says:
    @anon

    Consensus 9/11: The 9/11 Best Evidence Panel
    http://www.consensus911.org/point-tt-8/

    Medical technician Lonnie Penn said that just before the collapse of the South Tower, “I felt the ground shake, I turned around and ran for my life. I made it as far as the Financial Center when the collapse happened.” [13]

    Fire patrolman Paul Curran said that he was standing near the North Tower when, “all of a sudden the ground just started shaking. It felt like a train was running under my feet. … The next thing we know, we look up and the tower is collapsing.” [14]

    Lieutenant Bradley Mann of the Fire Department saw both buildings come down. “Shortly before the first tower came down,” he said, “I remember feeling the ground shaking. I heard a terrible noise, and then debris just started flying everywhere. People started running.” After they returned to the area, so he said, “we basically had the same thing: The ground shook again, and we heard another terrible noise and the next thing we knew the second tower was coming down.” [15]

    • Replies: @Iris
  133. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Weaver

    Look at Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years: Bolshevik Jews were in power for a time in Russia, though only 4% of population. Stalin apparently displaced them, with time, even though far more were brought into Russia through expansion. As Unz noted, the funding for the Bolsheviks came from the US, from US capitalism.

    Judeofascists are a small percentage of the population in every nation in which they dwell. Nazi Party members were a small percentage of the population. Communist Party members were a small percentage of the population. If they’re brainwashed from birth that they’re “chosen” and racially or cosmically supreme (and ((Jews)) are) they’re even more cohesive and deadly than Nazis and Commies.

    I think WASP political ideals and values are also just easy to take over. It’s like a workers’ ideology begging for a ruling class to take it over. For example, we didn’t value cultural pursuits, didn’t see them as important. But the Greeks knew they were important. Plus we got greedy, imported workers, and we came to worship Jews. And we couldn’t bear being called racist; our culture rejected a strong enough racial identity, even though we started with it.

    WASPs/Anglos are all about conforming and kowtowing to royalty, wealth and the establishment. The Christian founders of the USA rejected Royalty as corrupt and decadent, but also being products of the enlightenment, they made America vulnerable to ((Jews)) and other malignant, calculating creatures. Still, America held strong until the ((Jewish)) Century, when those same calculating creatures finally wore it down.

    By 9/11, America was putty in Judeofascist/Zionist hands.

    The JFK assassination, and then ((LBJ)) and the USS Liberty coverup were precursors to what has been a steady drumbeat of high level treason and Judeofascist/Zionist conspiracy ever since.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @Jim H
  134. Chauvin rots in jail for 22 yrs because George Floyd died of drug overdose.

    But the real killers in the US military are always exonerated and will be called ‘heroes’ by all sides.

    Afghan lives don’t matter. That’s for sure.

  135. Mevashir says:
    @Trinity

    We have politicians like these because we handed control of our nation to the international Jewish banking class back in the time of woody wilson. Politicians have to pay the piper and dance the hora to these ruthless financial overlords and scheißvoll puppet Masters.

  136. @Mevashir

    I don’t see what the big deal about bomb residue in a Mossad truck would be. Are you implying that the people with that truck had just gotten back from rigging the WTC up for demolition and were high-fiving it while their truck smelled of all the explosives which they had just planted in the WTC? That sounds very dubious. If there were any Israeli agents actually involved in setting up bombs in the building then it’s more likely that they would have quietly slithered away and done nothing to attract attention. The fact that a Mossad truck would show evidence of having handled explosives, cash, fake passports and possibly drugs is certainly not shocking. These are tools of the trade. But the likely missionary role of these 5 Mossad agents was just to watch and trail the likely Arab terrorists.

    • LOL: Iris
    • Troll: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  137. RobinG says:
    @Sean

    Khashoggi knew too much. Probably. And not just about the Saudis.

    The Washington Post, one of the affiliated outlets, explained that 37 of the listed phones had thus far been confirmed as targets of attempted or successful hacking by Pegasus spyware. Among the phones’ owners were journalists, activists, and “the two women closest to Saudi columnist” Jamal Khashoggi, who was murdered by agents of the Saudi state on October 2, 2018.

    Israel’s Pegasus: Is your phone a ‘24-hour surveillance device’?
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-s-pegasus-is-your-phone-a-24-hour-surveillance-device/ar-AAOxrVn?ocid=msedgntp

    • Replies: @Sean
  138. Anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    Why am I not surprised that a notorious anti-Semite and neo-Nazi like Giraldi is jumping on the 9-11 truther bandwagon? He’s like the inverse “Dancing Israelis” – instead of supposedly celebrating the the fall of the Twin Towers, he celebrates the perpetuation of anti-Semitic tropes and conspiracy theories. What else are Jews responsible for? Global warming? COVID? Killing JFK too? How about slavery and colonialism? Oh no! Those were white Protestants! Oops! If you read enough Giraldi, you’d think every evil in the world is from Jews.

    • Troll: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @Mevashir
  139. Weaver says:
    @Chris Moore

    I’m WASP. There’s wisdom in supporting order over chaos, avoiding revolution. But everything has its place. I just dislike how “blame Jews,” who deserve blame, often suggests WASP ideals are flawless. They’re not. Anyway, it sounds like “Audit the Federal Reserve” and if politically possible “full reserve banking” could be important.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  140. Weaver says:
    @Anon

    You sound anti-WASP. Did WASPs also steal Palestinian land? Those dancing Israelis were really from Maine; nothing to see here. Epstein is a traditional English name. Etc :p

  141. @R.C.

    Fire Chief stated “We decided to pull it” ( Buidling 7) and he was on TV interveiw only one time–a fluke. However more interesting is why London England BBC announced Building 7 collapsing BUT –this announment was one half hour before the event ???

    • Replies: @Iris
  142. jsm says:
    @Sir Launcelot Canning

    Surely the 2020 election taught you something. If national elections can be stolen, how much more so local ones?

  143. jsm says:
    @Mevashir

    The CZs truly are demented, aren’t they? They still think that Hal Lindsay got it right, even though he said Jesus was coming back in 1988, for sure!

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  144. @antitermite

    It’s interesting to watch these multiple towers come down by controlled demolition as contrast to the 3 WTC buildings. All 3 of those were perfect pancake falls.

    These fall all over the place – what the hell? https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/spectacular-demolition-video-china-blows-up-15-giant-skyscrapers/

    • Thanks: Weaver
    • Replies: @antitermite
  145. Mevashir says:
    @Patrick McNally

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/09/10/the-secret-history-of-9-11/

    Caption to this photo of Five Israelis:
    While the Mossad 9/11 truck bombers who placed thousands of pounds of explosives on the George Washington Bridge which had to be defused and removed were allowed to return to Israel, these five ‘Dancing Israelis’ were detained for several months before returning to Israel where they appeared on TV and admitted they had been sent to document the destruction of the WTC. The Mossad plan was to blame the Palestinians.

    According to this article at Veterans Today, they were attempting to blow up the George Washington bridge.

    The trucks were part of a moving company. Why would moving companies be ferrying around dangerous explosives?

    Your attitude seems to be that MoeSad should be able to do anything they wanted so long as they weren’t directly involved in 9/11. It’s as though you want to give them carte blanche. Why?

    • Agree: Tjoe, Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  146. Mevashir says:
    @jsm

    CZs in my experience hate our secular enlightenment-based democracy and yearn for a theocracy with a king or other autocrat. This is one reason why they venerate the State of Israel.

    Barrie Chamish was a Canadian Israeli muckraking journalist. He often would speak in North America and was extremely popular in Evangelical circles. He would travel Coast to Coast speaking in their churches and being treated like royalty, even though he was a devout Jew and loyal Zionist who hated Jesus and Christianity. That didn’t stop the evangelicals from lavishing their love and support upon him.

    • Replies: @jsm
  147. Mevashir says:
    @Anon

    Is it anti-Semitic to point out that a particular dangerous criminal happens to be Jewish? Is it anti-Semitic to point out that Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel were high level Jewish executives in the Mafia? Is it anti-Semitic to quote Jonathan Pollard stating shamelessly that every American Jew should commit espionage against his country? Is it anti-Semitic to state that you appear to be a sleazy and conniving Jewish apologist?

  148. @Anonymous

    ‘…Some information regarding Israel’s advance knowledge of this attack (and it’s failure to notify the US military) might have been provided by Jimmy Carter’s book ‘Peace: Not Apartheid’ but after an intense pre-publication tug-of-war between Israeli lobbies and the publisher it was taken out of the book. Not surprisingly, numerous stories covering this issue with Carter’s book at the time, including articles in the New York Times, seem to have been completely scrubbed out of internet existence…’

    Do tell. Obviously, given what you claim this may be impossible — but can you provide any documentation for this?

  149. @Trinity

    I entirely agree with you. How did it wind up with this “caca”.

  150. Sarah says:
    @Agent76

    Thank you👌I watched this video some time ago but I couldn’t find it. An important testimony from an experienced and knowledgeable person👍
    I will post another video as a gift to you👋

  151. Sean says:
    @RobinG

    Nine eleven would have been a pretty tall order for Israel, no matter how good it is at covert operations including false flag ones. Lets assume they had a motive (though that motive is supposed to be getting rid of Saddam and the official story of 9/11 was it was a Saudi led and manned operation so hardly a slam dunk excuse for invading Iraq) the means would entail a huge operation and deployment of advanced technology equivalent to a Manhattan project for a country Israel’s size. There would need to be tests and rehearsals to prove the concept was feasible in practice.

    Any actual operation would surely require AWACs-type planes in the region, plus support for in air refueling . It would be a high tech raid on Entebbe, except not on a country like Uganda. While America did try a very difficult operation to rescue the Embassy hostages in Iran, that was crucially different inasmuch as the whole point of a false flag 9/11 would be not merely secrecy and compete surprise, but fooling America about who the real perpetrators were afterwards. My feeling is that no Israeli general would say it would be feasible to get away with bringing the WTC down as a false flag that would be attributed to Bin Laden and his Arab terrorists. No leader would order something that his generals said could not be done.

    The Saud family dictatorship in Saudi Arabia is there to administer it as a satellite of the US, and as such has an tacit alliance with Israel against the Arab countries with lots of people but little oil wealth, but I think in the eyes of American strategists the importance of Israel is far less than that of Saudi Arabia, simply because of the petrodollars. Everything the US does in the Middle East in regards to keeping the Arabs away from the oil wealth seems to be consistent with a determination to keep Saudi Arabia investing its petrodollars in America.

    • Agree: Johnny Rico
  152. @Levtraro

    Israel had no love for Saddam Hussein, who lobbed a few scud missiles at them during the Gulf War, in a futile attempt to provoke a retaliation that would alienate Bush’s Arab allies, but he wasn’t much of a threat or focus in Israel twenty years ago. Their immediate concerns were Hezbollah and Hamas, and their long term fear was Iran developing nukes and a millenarian Ayatollah launching them at Israel.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @Raches
  153. Iris says:
    @Mevashir

    And certainly the truth about 9/11 will never be revealed.

    Thanks for all your comments, with which I much agree, but not on this specific point, Mevashir.

    The genocidal Israelis who blew up the WTC left behind an undeniable nuclear crime scene.

    Scientific forensics were collected and inadvertently shared with the entire world: they are now in the public domain and can never go back to secrecy.

    These forensics are a US. Geological Survey (USGS) report of flyovers of the WTC, five and twelve days after the 9/11 attacks, made to record Airborne Visible/Infrared Imaging Spectrometer (AVIRIS) remote sensing data.

    These forensics were then utilised, using the well established, centuries-old Equations of Heat Transfer by free convection, to calculate a low-estimate of the heat released by the WTC after its collapse. The calculations returned an astronomical figure (10^15 Joules), aligned with the monthly production of a medium-size 900 MVA nuclear reactor. Ergo, for obvious reasons of compacity, the energy at play in the controlled demolition of the WTC could only have been nuclear.

    The reckoning of 9/11 has actually already occurred, since no explanation other than the above is scientifically possible. And those who had the power to pull it out were those with total control over the Towers, Silverstein and his Zionist bosses.

    It is only because nations are still scared of the US Deep State and Israel that they don’t speak up.
    9/11 has caused terrible devastation and can never be forgiven. Its mechanism is completely understood by physicists and its reckoning is inevitable.
    https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-02004696

    In only a few years, the nuclear controlled demolition of the WTC by militant Zionists will be publicly discussed in scientific and engineering panels on TV, on Afghan, Iraqi, Syrian, Russian, Chinese media outlets.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  154. Iris says:
    @utu

    Thanks for posting this very important information, although I suspect you are only inadvertently contributing to the truth.

    The information you posted is proven to be correct by at least 2 separate video footages of the North Tower collapsing, filmed by different people, and from different locations.

    These videos prove that the ground shook, in both cases, exactly 12 seconds before the North Tower collapsing.

    This corresponds to the standard pattern of underground nuclear explosion in hard soil.
    When a charge is detonated inside an underground nuclear chamber, it shakes the ground, while its shockwaves travels and shatters everything around, creating a nuclear chimney above the explosion chamber.

    For a little while, the pressure produced by the explosion is so high that it maintains the shattered rock suspended above the explosion chamber. After a while, the pressure and temperature drop, and all matter collapses, creating a chimney above the explosion chamber.
    https://ia803104.us.archive.org/27/items/DTIC_ADA384780/DTIC_ADA384780_text.pdf

    In the case of the WTC, the underground detonation first made the ground shake. After exactly 12 seconds, the nuclear chimney collapsed, engulfing the North Tower. The cause-and-effect was recorded and timed by two different filming devices, so it is beyond discussion.

    • Replies: @orchardist
  155. Levtraro says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The little Jew nation wanted powerful White nations to hate brown takfiris as much as they do. Cunning little Jews wanted to spread a general kind of hatred to manipulate stronger White nations, particularly the USA, just as gloating Bibi said of 911 (“it is very good”). Your focus on just those two groups of agitated moslems sounds insincere and narrow-minded.

  156. onebornfree says: • Website

    James Corbett: “9/11 Truth: Lessons Learned?”
    https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/ep408:7

    Regards, onebornfree

  157. Robjil says:

    The who can be investigated from many angles. The Doers left many clues.

    Why was the “evidence” so quickly destroyed? Who decided on that?

    Why was “seven Nations to destroy” picked as a theme after 9 11? Who devised this theme? It is a Jewish religious theme. It is how the first Israel was created. Why is a Religious theme of a minority religion being used to “destroy” seven nations? Who thought of this? In the 21st century?

    https://www.salon.com/2011/11/26/wes_clark_and_the_neocon_dream/

    He said: “Sir, it’s worse than that. He said – he pulled up a piece of paper off his desk – he said: “I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defense’s office. It says we’re going to attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years – we’re going to start with Iraq, and then we’re going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.”

    According to Chabad, this “seven nations to destroy” command is still valid for “all time”. Thus, after destroying the seven nations listed above. The Jewish Religious led US military could devise another list of seven nations to destroy. It could go endless until we have no nations left on earth. This nonsense has to stop. We are in the 21st century and not in 500 BC Israel.
    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961561/jewish/Positive-Commandment-187.htm

    Since these seven nations no longer exist4 a person could think that this commandment is not noheg l’doros [for all generations5]. But only someone who does not understand the concept of noheg l’doros would think such a thing. A command that can be fulfilled without being limited to a certain time is considered noheg l’doros, because if the act would become possible in any generation, the mitzvah would apply.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  158. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Weaver

    What makes you think the WASP establishment has a Christian bone in its bodies anymore? What makes you think ((Jews)) have anything to do with the laws of Moses anymore?

    My theory is that ((Jews)) are actually refugees from Moses’ wrath, who have galvanized for eons into what you see today: the most elaborate, sophisticated, sepantine organization of criminals.

    Anyone touched by these criminals (and the WASP establishment has been in bed with ((Jews)) for how long?) becomes infected.

    It’s not like any religion is immune. Look at the Pope. Look at factions of the Church. Look at factions of Orthodox Christianity’s involvement with ((Bolshevism)).

    But Satanists aren’t immune either. They’re the first ones who gave in to the (Jews)), the most greedy, bitter, stiff-necked, butthurt, vengeful gang of criminal scum in history.

    They’re actually enjoying seeing the world discover how much like ((Jew)) filth it really has become.

    It’s like that line from Sympathy For The Devil: ‘I shouted out “Who killed the Kennedys?” When after all, it was you and me.’

    Who alive today is capable of bringing order from this chaos?

    • Replies: @cohen
  159. You’d be surprised at the number of people who have NEVER heard of any connection between
    1. 9/11
    and
    2. Zionists willing to go to any lengths to fulfill their objective.

    Tell everyone you know. Send them links to articles.

    We cannot unite against an enemy that we do not see as an enemy.

  160. Mevashir says:
    @Iris

    Thank you for these comments. You provide even better information than Gordon Duff over at Veterans Today. I am forwarding to him your comments.

    I guess I should not have said the truth will never be revealed. What I really meant is the truth will never be formally ratified and the perpetrators held accountable, because we have a society led by cowardly criminals on the payroll of the Zionist run banking cartel. Our politicians are spineless and our scientists are completely corrupted by the allure of money and the threat of ostracism.

    I know this personally because my father is an elite recombinant DNA scientist who’s completely in the camp of big Pharma and the biowarfare research operations. His wife my stepmother was a spokesman at USUHS in Washington DC. Many years ago I sent her and her colleagues information about the dangers of DU weapons. USUHS is one of the biggest organizations that has covered up the health dangers of these horrible weapons as well as covering up Gulf war syndrome problems for so many veterans. At any rate I received a call that if I continued to email members of this organization I would be contacted by the FBI!

    In only a few years, the nuclear controlled demolition of the WTC by militant Zionists will be publicly discussed in scientific and engineering panels on TV, on Afghan, Iraqi, Syrian, Russian, Chinese media outlets.

    Are you serious with this statement? What possible effect will these countries have on our own domestic policies? Muslims have been stating from the very outset that 9/11 was clearly an Israeli false flag operation. Leading figures in Europe have also been stating this. It has made absolutely zero difference. We here in the United States are a captive population under control of an occupying alien government. They are impervious to criticism either domestic or foreign.

    I was particularly disappointed that Putin has gone on record numerous times supporting the official version of the 9/11 attacks. So I place no hope whatsoever in your statement. The American elites and their Jewish Masters could care less. The entire world could be clamoring about the truth of 9/11 and they would just shut their ears and carry on with even more determination on their evil path.

    In the end after being involved with 9/11 Truth for 20 years, I have to agree with Paul Craig Roberts that the truth will never be officially revealed and the guilty parties will never be held accountable.

    • Replies: @Iris
  161. @RichardDuck

    If I go back to the question “Who did it?” after sleeping over all the comments I have read here and the escellent reviews in this series I come up with the following answer. However this is rather an answer to the question “Who facilitated it?” though. He must be an éminence grise in the style of duTremblay who was working for Cardinal Richelieu. DuTremblay was accused of plotting/facilitating the very bloody Thirty Year War in Europe in the 1600’s.

    There is a very efficient guy in the US administration who has been seen everywhere and who makes me think of duTremblay and he is Jim Bolton. I don’t say Jim is the Who of 911 of course, but I believe someone with his track record and his talents and background and his contacts in the CIA, the DoD, International WhosWho, and the PNAC is the “Who facilitated it?”. “Who dit it” actually may be two or three disconnected teams just to confuse any investigation.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Bill Jones
  162. @Iris

    A device barely larger in size and form than a regular waffle-cone, positioned at the bottom end of an ‘amplifier’ roughly the size and form of a college megaphone, carefully positioned and aligned with the vertical axis of the building in question would do roughly what you suggest.

    • Replies: @Iris
  163. It’s always amused me that somehow the plain simple fact that the government is promulgating the most outrageous and unlikely conspiracy theory out there never gets mentioned.

    • Thanks: Jim H
  164. Mevashir says:
    @Robjil

    Thank you for this important comment. I practiced Orthodox Judaism in Israel for 18 years and never knew this! It seems dubious to me. That commandment applied in a specific historical situation.

    [MORE]

    However Chabad is extremely influential. Unlike most Hasidic sects that are reclusive and hide from public scrutiny, Chabad has always been an in your face form of ultra Orthodox Judaism. Chabad members have been encouraged to enter the most prominent positions of society and to try to influence public policy. Kushner and Ivanka are both involved with Chabad and their position in the White House was orgasmic for the Chabad organization!

    Also unfortunately Putin is in bed with the Chief Rabbi of Russia, who is also Chabad. They also are the most hostile to Christianity of all Jewish sects. Traditionally the most aggressive anti-missionaries have come out of the Chabad organization. When they conned President Reagan into signing his Noahide Declaration (a form of Judaism for Gentiles that basically criminalizes Christianity), you knew that we are facing an enormous menace.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  165. cohen says:
    @Chris Moore

    You forgot to include Muslims like Saudis, Qataris, Emiratise. Cryptic Muslims. Who will sell their mothers for money. That is their religion. Reminds you anyone like them?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  166. cohen says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-fakhrizadeh-assassination-israel.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=World%20News

    The Jewyork Times article glorifying the Mossad and not Israeli defense intelligence. The Israeli propaganda machine always forgets to print the great blunders of Mossads. Which one can read in Israeli Newspapers.

  167. @The Real World

    Lol, that is hilarious! They look like Jenga towers falling down.
    Obviously the Chinese skimped on explosives, and expertise.

    The WTC demos were textbook – a thoroughly professional job.
    Interesting to see that vid, to show how it could have looked, had any shortcuts been taken.

    • LOL: Weaver
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Sparkon
  168. Mevashir says:
    @cohen

    Who will sell their mothers for money.

    So that’s how your father met your mother!

  169. @antitermite

    Lol, that is hilarious! They look like Jenga towers falling down.
    Obviously the Chinese skimped on explosives, and expertise.

    Where is Bin Laden when you need him?

  170. @Mevashir

    Sadly I have met people from many countries who told me they rejoiced from 911. It’s not religion or culture related although Israel appears to be the winner. Others raked financial profits from the aftermath of the event.

  171. Uncle Jon says:
    @dimples

    Don’t you worry your little head. It was John Wilkes Booth, I mean Oswald, I mean Sirhan. And it was only one bullet.

    You can go to sleep now.

    • LOL: Iris
    • Replies: @HbutnotG
  172. anon[664] • Disclaimer says:

    The Scientist and the A.I.-Assisted, Remote-Control Killing Machine
    Israeli agents had wanted to kill Iran’s top nuclear scientist for years. Then they came up with a way to do it with no operatives present.
    Since 2004, when the Israeli government ordered its foreign intelligence agency, the Mossad, to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, the agency had been carrying out a campaign of sabotage and cyberattacks on Iran’s nuclear fuel enrichment facilities. It was also methodically picking off the experts thought to be leading Iran’s nuclear weapons program. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-fakhrizadeh-assassination-israel.html

    NYT shall label and expand on incident as followings
    1 Call the agent terrorist
    2Israel is supporting terror from its soil
    3Isreal has been lying about Iran’s nucelar
    4 on the basis of those lies it is conducting terrorism
    5 Long before Syrian war or Lebanon war of 2006 Israel started attacking Iran
    6 Israeli track record on terrorism shall allow the world to reconsider 911 theories .

    • Replies: @RobinG
  173. Sparkon says:
    @antitermite

    The WTC demos were textbook – a thoroughly professional job.

    No they weren’t. With over \$4 billion in damages to structures surrounding the WTC, the demolitions of 9/11 were only barely controlled, and hardly professional.

    There was no precedent for demolishing two 110-story skyscrapers, nor any skyscrapers with a tube within a tube design, and hence there was no textbook for either operation.

    The Twin Towers did not fall within their own footprints. If they had, there would have been no damage to any surrounding structures.

    • Troll: Mevashir
    • Replies: @The Real World
  174. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @HVM

    Why would anyone think that the Israeli’s, Palestinians, Muslims, Chinese etc… would be loyal to the United States or American people? Um No they aren’t, their loyalty is to their own, period. It would be impossible to have loyalty to a foreign nation and your own, your going to be loyal to one or the other.

  175. Jim H says:
    @Chris Moore

    ‘The JFK assassination, and then ((LBJ)) and the USS Liberty coverup were precursors to what has been a steady drumbeat of high level treason and Judeofascist/Zionist conspiracy ever since.’ — Chris Moore

    It’s not on the scale of 9/11, but an exposé in the NYT of Mossad’s assassination of an Iranian nuclear scientist with a remote-controlled machine gun illustrates a familiar pattern of collusion:

    ‘Preparations for the assassination began after a series of meetings toward the end of 2019 and in early 2020 between Israeli officials, led by the Mossad director, Yossi Cohen, and high-ranking American officials, including President Donald J. Trump, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the C.I.A. director, Gina Haspel.

    ‘In late February, Mr. Cohen presented the Americans with a list of potential operations, including the killing of Mr. Fakhrizadeh. The American officials briefed about the assassination plan in Washington supported it, according to an official who was present at the meeting.

    ‘Both countries were encouraged by Iran’s relatively tepid response to the American assassination of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani in January 2020.’

    https://outline.com/aHLSBK

    Foreign assassinations are illegal under US law. But apparently, it’s okay if Mossad does it, with the full approval and probable technical cooperation of the United States. Or even if Trump does it, knowing that Israel-whipped Kongress Klowns and DOJ won’t raise a peep of objection.

    If Israel feels entitled to murder at its convenience overseas, why would it not do the same in the United States, with the full collaboration of dual-loyalty Israel-First insiders like Trump, Pompeo and Haspel?

    • Agree: Mevashir
  176. Robjil says:
    @Mevashir

    Even the numbers 9 11 have a Jewish religious significance. Why are Jewish religious number themes being promoted for this attack on the US? I noticed the Sefer Yetzira verse that spoke of these two numbers before I saw a Chabad article on it.

    https://www.sefaria.org/Sefer_Yetzirah.1.4?lang=bi

    Ten are the numbers of the ineffable Sefirot. Ten, and not nine. Ten, and not eleven. Learn this wisdom, and be wise in the understanding of it. Investigate these numbers, and draw knowledge from them. Fix the design in its purity, and pass from it to its Creator seated on his throne.

    Here is the Chabad article on it.

    https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380327/jewish/Nine-Eleven-and-Ten.htm

    In the Sefer Yetzira (“Book of Formation”), the oldest Kabbalistic text, attributed to the patriarch Abraham, a cryptic phrase states: “Ten sefirot of nothingness; ten and not nine, ten and not eleven.”

    Religion that believes in a G‑d in Heaven but forgets about G‑d’s presence on Earth (ten minus one – nine), or annihilates life on Earth (ten plus one – eleven), will be fundamentally bankrupt. 9/11 – and all the events of the past year – remind us that science, politics, economy, every one of our systems, must include the tenth dimension, malchut, for us to survive. This tenth ingredient is the key to our security and future.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  177. Mevashir says:
    @Robjil

    Even the numbers 9 11 have a Jewish religious significance. Why are Jewish religious number themes being promoted for this attack on the US?

    They are being promoted because chabad has members and goy sympathizers planted throughout the highest levels of the US government. Eliot Cohen is a prominent neocon who backed all the wars of terror the US has engaged in since 2001. I had him as an instructor back in 1979 when I was a Harvard undergraduate. Eliot’s wife Judy was director of the campus Hillel Jewish student organization. Eliot was very culturally Jewish and already showing right wing neocon signs even back then when he was a young political science graduate student at Harvard. He was in love with the idea of redemptive violence that the Christian Zionists love as well (the idea that you have to kill people in order to redeem them from evil):

    [MORE]

    https://www.theatlantic.com/author/eliot-a-cohen/

    Eliot believed that American Imperial and Jewish interests perfectly dovetail. Eliot never stopped to think that Israel is an ultra Orthodox right-wing bastion whose rabbis would never approve of the way he and his wife practice their Jewishness. Israel is to Jews as the Vatican is to Catholics: it commands their complete and total loyalty based not on reason or logic but on profound psychological and emotional manipulation.

    The only way to rid America of this problem is to “invite” all of its Jews to leave and to move to Israel. The USG could provide all sorts of attractive incentives, such as one-way plane tickets, a moving allowance, cash reimbursements similar to the transfer agreement between the zionists and the Nazi government. I increasingly believe this is the only salvation for America.

  178. @Sparkon

    Had you ever been to the former WTC? Perhaps you don’t realize how tightly-built most of Manhattan is.

    Two 110 story buildings and one 47 story building coming entirely down in, even, expert fashion would have still created plenty of damage to surrounding structures.

    Plus, was it 4 billion is damages claimed or in damages paid? There can be a substantial difference between the two. Many NYers are not shy about gaming the system (see Larry Silverstein as one big example).
    Aerial view, pre 9/11 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/wavz13/4083899777

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Sparkon
  179. Athena says:

    Ask Not ‘What Happened?’ But ‘Who Did It?’

    The Rockefellers and Rothschilds in China: A Long, Intimate Relationship

    https://www.newsbud.com/2018/02/09/the-rockefellers-and-rothschilds-in-china-a-long-intimate-relationship/

  180. @Mevashir

    “According to this” bit of claptrap by Gordon Duff, scammer-in-chief of Veterans Today, “they were attempting to blow up the George Washington Bridge.”

    Wouldn’t that be one of the dumbest maneuvers imaginable? Right after some nice Arab terrorists have so kindly driven planes into the Towers a bunch of lunatics from Israel attempt to blow up the George Washington Bridge and thereby risk negating the effect of 911. Your attitude seems to be that you buy into a silly hoax like this without critically examining it. Feel free to lay out as much real evidence that these Israeli agents were about to do something so stupid as you may have. But don’t just regurgitate tripe from Veterans Today. What FBI report do you have for this? For that matter, any kind of primary source.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @anon
  181. Mevashir says:
    @The Real World

    Thank you for this very valuable comment!

  182. Mevashir says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Blowing up the bridges would have been portrayed as part of the Islamist attack on New York. They had no intention of getting caught and revealed as Israeli operatives. Isn’t that obvious?

    Gordon’s point is that what actually happened on 9/11 was far less destructive and lethal than what was being planned.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  183. Iris says:
    @orchardist

    A device barely larger in size and form than a regular waffle-cone,

    Thanks for your reply.
    The size of the nuclear explosives utilised by Silverstein and his team for the controlled demolition of the WTC can be easily approximated.

    The WTC released at least a minimum of 10^15 Joules, or 1 Peta Joule, after its collapse. For such astronomical quantity of energy to be produced, would require 100,000 metric tons of chemical energy carriers (including conventional explosives), or a more modest 10 metric tons of nuclear energy carriers.

    There was nowhere to hide 100,000 metric tons of chemical explosives at the WTC: that would have required hiding the volume equivalent of 1,000 train carriages. This is why the only scientifically-acceptable explanation is that nuclear explosives were used.

    1 Peta Joule is equivalent to approximately 240 kilotons of TNT. So each Tower wad demolished by a nuclear charge in the order of at least 80 kilotons, weighing at least 3 tons each.

    Details of the calculations can be found in pages 22 and 23 of this paper:
    https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-02004696v3/document

  184. Iris says:
    @Mevashir

    We here in the United States are a captive population under control of an occupying alien government. They are impervious to criticism either domestic or foreign.

    This is a different question, where your knowledge is far better than mine.

    What I see happening in the near future is that the Zionist-Occupied American government will provoke another hot war, more probably around China.

    The Israelis have recently taken an unexpected and swift beating from poor, destitute Gaza, and so did their Saudis lapdogs from equally destitute Houthis. I don’t think they will now ever envisage taking on a larger regional ballistic alliance (Iran + Hezbollah + Gaza + Yemen and even Syria), for fear of what could happened to their most sacred place (Israel).

    The ZOG wants a war against China; this is the meaning of the current US+UK+Australia nuclear alliance.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/15/australia-nuclear-powered-submarines-us-uk-security-partnership-aukus

    The ZOG imperialists will go to war against China, because they don’t care about American or any other casualties, as long as Israel is safe. But they can never win such war. They are, scientifically and militarily, far too much lagging behind to beat China.

    The Israeli-American global empire will collapse soon, and this is bound to result in a lot of turmoil and distress for the American people, inside America. America’s ruling system cannot survive the collapse of its empire, neither politically, nor economically.

    This is why the work done by American analysts such as Philip Giraldi, Ron Unz, Andrew Bacevich, is important for your country. One can hope that there are people within legalist American institutions reading them, who have already a clear mind about the trouble to come, will raise to the challenge, keep the country together and avoid unnecessary suffering to its people.

    I was particularly disappointed that Putin has gone on record numerous times supporting the official version of the 9/11 attacks.

    Putin’s public declarations and all the English-language Russian media are tailored to bluff their self-proclaimed enemies. They are diplomatic.
    You would be surprised of what they actually reveal in their publications issued in other languages, Spanish and Arabic most notably.
    In particular, the Russians are the ones who blew the whistle on the nuclear demolition of the WTC by Israel.

    • Thanks: Robjil
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  185. Sparkon says:
    @The Real World

    Two 110 story buildings and one 47 story building coming entirely down in, even, expert fashion would have still created plenty of damage to surrounding structures.

    Sez who? As I said, there was no precedent and hence no text book for demolition of two 110-story skyscrapers, so you’re just making this up.

    Theoretically, it may have been possible to drop the Twin Towers pretty much straight down by severing and kicking aside the central core columns while blowing the bolts holding the external panels together, and the floor truss attachments to them. It was uncharted territory, and I suppose the plotters may have figured that too much force was very much better than not enough force when it came to demolishing the Twin Towers on 9/11.

    Any way you want to slice it, substantial damage was done to properties surrounding the World Trade Center on 9/11. That is a fact visible in many of the photographs taken in the aftermath. Both Fiterman Hall and the Deutsche Bank building were eventually demolished long after 9/11, and repairs to the Verizon Building were said to be \$1.2 billion. Of course I have no way of knowing the legitimacy of any of the insurance claims, and it’s neither here nor there anyway, as the damage to surrounding properties was visible and obvious, however you want to quantify it.

    It also should be obvious that the Twin Towers did not fall into their own footprints, and it wasn’t even close, so 9/11 skeptics need to quit saying that, and educate themselves about the true collateral damage, howsoever they may choose to interpret it.

    The image shows damage to 3 World Financial Center, 2 WFC, and the Winter Garden Atrium, and a great number of the signature external box column sections, or panels, that were hurled outward some distance from WTC 1.



    Image: Wikimedia Commons

    • Replies: @The Real World
    , @Mevashir
  186. @Sarah

    It certainly is plausible that a bomb was placed in the basement of the WTC. Are you implying that it couldn’t have been placed there by Arab terrorists but must instead have been an inside-job of some kind? That doesn’t seem warranted. The original strike against the WTC in 1993 was an attempt to place in the parking garage of the WTC.

    Rodriguez has claimed that in June 2001 he saw Mohand Alshehri at the WTC:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20061221094623/http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/203065p-175130c.html

    Rodriguez maintains that this was evidence that Alshehri was casing the Towers before the attack. Is it possible that Al Qaeda managed to plant some bombs down in the basement of the Tower before the attack? Yes, it is possible.

    But what use what would such bombs be for a set of conspirators who have already rigged the whole Tower up for controlled demolition? These bombs (if such is what they were) in the basement of the Tower did not play any role in bringing down the Tower later. The collapse was top-down and the bottom stories up the Towers pretty much remained intact even after they had been buried under the mass of wreckage from the collapsing higher layers. There is therefore no way that this explosion in the basement would have influenced the later collapse, so what would be the purpose of it?

    If we assume that Al Qaeda managed to plant a few bombs in the basement of the Towers (which seems to be what Rodriguez believes based upon his report of an encounter with Alshehri in June 2001) then that is easy to comprehend. It fits consistently with the attempt in 1993 to plant a bomb in the parking garage and it would compliment the strike with airplanes. But if you want to hypothesize that the Towers were blown up with pre-placed demolition charges by conspiratorial insiders then there’s no obvious net benefit to the conspiracy from having these basement bombs go off well in advance of the scheduled demolition. What would be the purpose of this according to an inside-job scenario?

    • Replies: @Sarah
  187. @Mevashir

    What does he source this absurd claim off of? While one is entitled to hypothesize that some further attacks were planned (e.g. there is the hypothesis floating around that Flight 93 was meant for WTC 7) it’s safe to assume that these people were off from work. Clowning around on a rooftop while taking videos to document the event in a way which gathers attention is not something which you do when you’re about to go out and plant more bombs on another target. If these fools had been planning to do that then they would have quietly traveled to the target and done the job without raising heckles in a way which makes a woman call for law enforcement.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  188. Iris says:
    @GomezAdddams

    However more interesting is why London England BBC announced Building 7 collapsing BUT –this announcement was one half hour before the event ???

    Thanks for bringing up this point, which proves that Silverstein was the master conductor of the WTC controlled demolition operation.

    The announcement made by the BBC journalist is significant only to those naïve enough to believe that WTC7 fell because of office fires. It of course did not.

    But the BBC journalist wasn’t a special insider neither: she was merely repeating like a parrot what she heard from the firemen, who themselves must have heard it from their Fire Department Chief, who was contact with Silverstein and his party, making the decisions and deciding to demolish WTC7

    Very unexpectedly to the perpetrators, WTC7 internally imploded when the Twin Towers were demolished, because the respective blasts were carried over to WTC7 by underground tunnels.
    https://www.unz.com/article/demystifying-9-11-israel-and-the-tactics-of-mistake/?showcomments#comment-4908199

    Silverstein suddenly and unexpectedly found himself dealing with a third building that had blown up from the inside, bearing irrefutable traces of explosion collateral damage, and screaming of controlled demolition. WTC7 had become a giant smoking gun for the false flag.

    Silverstein then made the decision to deviate from the “plane attack” scenario and demolish WTC7 as well. By doing so, he set in motion a sequence of events that lead first to public disbelief, and finally to irrefutable evidence of controlled demolition.
    https://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7

    The fact that Silverstein was in a position to improvise and decide, by himself, on the spot, the demolition of WTC7 to hide obvious traces of the crime shows who really was in charge: him.

    The WTC demolition was entirely an Israeli false flag, in which American institutions were lead, deceived, double-crossed and blackmailed into silence because they had been foolish enough to store nuclear weapons under WTC7, which Israel opportunistically used in its “two-birds-with-one-stone” usual modus operandi.

  189. @Sparkon

    So, we’ve established that you’d never been to the former WTC complex (but, aren’t adult enough to say so).

    More than once you concur with my statement that damage to nearby structures was a given since other buildings were so very close and two of the fallen were 110 stories steel structures.

    So, you’re simply arguing semantics. If your contention is that placed explosives were not used, well, there’s nothing further to dialogue about.

  190. Mevashir says:
    @Iris

    thanks for these insights.

    The Israeli-American global empire will collapse soon, and this is bound to result in a lot of turmoil and distress for the American people, inside America. America’s ruling system cannot survive the collapse of its empire, neither politically, nor economically.

    I can well imagine. There will be turmoil and bloodshed in the streets. I already suffer from taking public transportation and sitting among the hordes of HADAMI people: Homeless Alcoholics Drug Addicts Mentally Ill that are infesting the streets across America like a Medieval plague. (They dress in rags and are covered in ugly tattoos and piercings from head to toe. In Colorado almost all of them are white trash.) The elites think they are insulated from it because they tool around in their cars and live in gated communities. When they bravely venture out to Whole Foods there are security guards patrolling the parking lot for them. [HADAMI is a Hebrew word I made up that means approximately Bloody Scum of the Earth.]

    I am prepared to have my life ended as the necessary price to pay to see the ZOG globalist empire toppled forever.

    In particular, the Russians are the ones who blew the whistle on the nuclear demolition of the WTC by Israel.

    Please explain.

    PS Do you also agree with VT that Beirut Port was a nuclear attack?

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Iris
  191. Mevashir says:
    @Patrick McNally

    What does he source this absurd claim off of?

    Read it yourself: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/09/10/the-secret-history-of-9-11/

    Here’s his email address so you can approach him directly. But warning: he does not suffer fools: [email protected]

    See also below the article:

    Further Reading – Background Articles
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/10/05/911-filling-in-the-map-tracing-the-nukes/https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/06/17/911-revelations-continue-humiliating-the-victims-dancing-on-their-graves/

  192. Mevashir says:
    @Sparkon

    The image shows damage to 3 World Financial Center, 2 WFC, and the Winter Garden Atrium, and a great number of the signature external box column sections, or panels, that were hurled outward some distance from WTC 1.

    And that’s precisely some of the evidence that nukes were used to demolish the towers! The answer is staring you right in the face, but it’s too ugly for you to accept. Wake up bro!

  193. @Mevashir

    I tried wading through it for awhile when you first listed it and all I could see was just a readiness to throw out unsupported assertions. Maybe I’ll get around to scanning it line by line at some point. But if you really have been convinced then surely you must know what his claims are based on, yes? Is there some FOIA-obtained memo from the FBI which specifically asserts that these morons were about to try bombing the George Washington Bridge?

  194. JLK says:
    @Patrick McNally

    There’s more than the dancing Israelis. Don’t forget the Odigo warnings. That’s enough evidence that Israelis knew enough to warn people out of the area on the day.

    It doesn’t mean they knew the structures would collapse and casualties would be as high as they were.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
    , @JLK
  195. The always dependable James Corbett has a look at the lessons we should take from 9/11.

    https://www.corbettreport.com/lessonslearned/

  196. Iris says:
    @Mevashir

    I am prepared to have my life ended as the necessary price to pay to see the ZOG globalist empire toppled forever.

    You won’t have to wait long for that. The ZOG will not give China another five years; it will soon engage it militarily.

    HADAMI is a Hebrew word I made up that means approximately Bloody Scum of the Earth.

    It breaks my heart to see ever more of these people in the streets of Europe too; I refuse to call them trash, they are victims. Governments that secretly tolerate, promote and manage drug trafficking against their own population are genocidal war criminals.

    Please explain.

    The first person who blow the whistle on the WTC nuclear demolition was a Russian, calling himself Dmitri Khalezov and claiming to be a former Soviet officer engaged in a nuclear defence directorate.
    What was remarkable in his revelations is that he was adamant on very specific details of the nuclear demolition, while clearly not understanding the destruction mechanism himself. Only somebody very confident about the accuracy of their information could do that.

    He triggered the curiosity of a physicist, who first tried to prove him wrong, but then was astonished to find out that scientific thermal calculations proved Khalezov was correct.

    It is not clear why Khalezov blew the whistle, what were his political motives. First, he claimed self-preservation, tried to dissociate himself from Mossad officers who attempted to scapegoat him for 9/11. He spent time in a Bangkok prison until he was cleared.

    But Khalezov also mentions a Russian missile with nuclear warhead, that would have been stolen, then fired onto the Pentagon on 9/11, probably from an Israeli vessel cruising at the limit of US territorial waters.
    This is much more plausible than a vessel full of US servicemen firing on their own Ministry of Defence. It would also explain why Russia kept her mouth shut on 9/11: because she was double-crossed and blackmailed too.

    Khalezov’s revelations were made in 2007, in a pivotal time where Putin was finishing his second term and the West was hoping to get rid of him forever. I think that Khalezov’s breakthrough declarations were not personal or random, but a far-reaching political warning.

    Do you also agree with VT that Beirut Port was a nuclear attack?

    Yes, but not with classic fission nuclear weapons, as those utilised for the WTC controlled demolition. The Beirut harbour was destroyed by a new type of fusion nuclear bombs, a clean weapon that leaves no radioactive fallout. Such weapons have been under development since 2006.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
    , @Sarah
  197. @JLK

    Nobody was ever warned away from the Towers by Odigo. What happened was that 2 employees in Israel received pop-up text messages. The Odigo spokesman Alex Diamandis said that:

    —–
    Without going into details, the message was most noteworthy due to the timing, nit due to the substance of the ‘warning.’ It could easily be coincidence.
    —–

    The Odigo employees notified their management, which then contacted Israeli security services, who then reported the matter to the FBI. That was it! No warnings sent to anyone in the United States. Just the 2 Israeli employees who received a strange message and reported it Israeli police after the attack had occurred.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030201161145/atnewyork.com/news/article.php/8471_893851

    https://web.archive.org/web/20020607000423/amenusa.org/prior.htm

  198. Sparkon says:
    @Mevashir

    That image from Veterans Today you’ve posted shows a geological feature known as a glacial pothole. It is entirely natural and has nothing to do with nuclear explosions.

    I’ve discussed this feature in the past. Please read my comments about it beginning here:

    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/from-9-11-to-the-great-reset/?showcomments#comment-4158945

    Gordon Duff has already fessed up that some of what he writes at VT is baloney, because otherwise they’d kill him or take his wine away or his motorcycle or something like that. The guy who claims to be one of the “top global intelligence specialists” has also been promoting Dimitri Khalezov’s nukes in the basement nonsense, and thus could more easily lay claim to being one of the world’s most celebrated BS artists, just like Khalezov.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Mevashir
  199. Iris says:
    @Sparkon

    has also been promoting Dimitri Khalezov’s nukes in the basement nonsense,

    This was explained to you in the past, hundreds times over: there were no nukes “in the basement” of the Twin Towers.

    The basement of the Twin Towers was going down up to and literally sitting atop the bedrock onto which it was anchored, at minus 21 metres below street level.

    Each explosion chamber was at the bottom of a borehole dug into the bedrock during the construction of the respective Tower, and going down at minus 75 metres below bedrock level, or minus (75+21)= minus 96 metres below street level.

    Since you can’t differentiate between depths of -21 and -96 metres after all this time, it may be time for you to move on to another subject than 9/11.

  200. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    he [Gordon Duff] does not suffer fools: [email protected]

    You mean, he doesn’t tolerate criticism or answer probing questions.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  201. I was “useful” to allow Pearl Harbor, too.

  202. Mevashir says:
    @Sparkon

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/another-look-at-9-11-ask-not-what-happened-but-who-did-it/#comment-4910920

    Just from her respectful and calm tone, I will put odds on Iris over you by about 10 to 1. Just because you don’t like the implications of Khalezov’s ideas does not make them nonsense. It might simply make you a victim of cognitive dissonance if not an outright liar!

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  203. Mevashir says:
    @Iris

    I used to pity the HADAMI people, but no more. I literally dread walking to the bus and having to ride it. This is a nice town without any overt ghettos and yet these people are like maggots because they are drawn here by libtard social Services that keep them dependent and never let them leave poverty behind.

    They should be locked up in FEMA camps or put back in the Mental hospitals that Ronald Reagan emptied out so many years ago dumping these wretched Souls onto the streets across America.

    As for the nukes theory, what do you say to our friend Sparkon:
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/another-look-at-9-11-ask-not-what-happened-but-who-did-it/#comment-4910933

    It isn’t that important to me. It’s only one detail in a gigantic narrative that stinks to high heaven.

    • Replies: @Iris
  204. H. P. says:

    Montréal 911 Truth : WE WILL NOT BELIEVE YOU

    • Thanks: Iris, Robjil
  205. Iris says:
    @Mevashir

    Hi Mevashir. You will have to trust me on this one, as I trusted somebody else (the Physics professor who made the WTC thermal transfer calculations and got personal confirmation from NYC geologists).

    This photo depicts a genuine natural glacial pothole, and not any vitrified rock resulting from a nuclear explosion.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/nyregion/22rocks.html

    While the bedrock is in average at minus 21 below street level, this single pothole locally adds another 12 meters depth, so it makes a local depression at minus 33 metres. The nuclear charges were detonated much lower, at minus 96 metres.

  206. JLK says:
    @JLK

    There’s enough smoke all-together to strongly suggest Israel had some foreknowledge of the hijacking scheme. How about the Israelis that were held for a few months by the FBI before being allowed to leave the country?

    That doesn’t mean they knew everything, though.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  207. Mevashir says:

    [This is not a Covid/vaxxing discussion. Stop trying to spam this thread with your nonsense or most of your future comments may get trashed.]

  208. Sparkon says:
    @Mevashir

    Iris’s calm and respectful tone? You must be joking, slick. She is the same shrieking harridan and gullible nitwit who in the past at UR was relentlessly promoting another proven BS artist, James Files, while calling me a lot of names in the process.

    You are the gullible fool who posted Duff’s photo of the glacial pothole as proof of a basement nuke, and yet you’ve got the chutzpah to call me a liar.

    And the pot calls the teacup black…

    • Replies: @Iris
  209. Mevashir says:
    @Iris

    Yes, but not with classic fission nuclear weapons, as those utilised for the WTC controlled demolition. The Beirut harbour was destroyed by a new type of fusion nuclear bombs, a clean weapon that leaves no radioactive fallout. Such weapons have been under development since 2006.

    Literally zero fallout? What countries have access to these weapons? How is Israel able to develop new kinds of nukes when they don’t have the means to test them?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Iris
  210. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    Yeah, just trust “Iris,” lol.

  211. Sarah says:
    @Patrick McNally

    But if you want to hypothesize that the Towers were blown up with pre-placed demolition charges by conspiratorial insiders then there’s no obvious net benefit to the conspiracy from having these basement bombs go off well in advance of the scheduled demolition. What would be the purpose of this according to an inside-job scenario?

    On a another article (Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake), Iris (reply 180) answered me about this video :

    Again, thanks ever so much Sarah: this is a short but most extraordinary testimony which provides much food for thought.

    In summary, a named witness, known to have been employed and present at the North Tower’s basement at the critical time of the attack, has stated that the explosions in the basement have preceded the Tower being attacked by a “plane”. And his testimony is proven true by the terrible scars left onto a colleague wounded by these preliminary explosions.

    This does not surprise me in the least for the following reasons: blowing up the Mechanical Room, as well as the stand-by generators , would have ensured that the pumps operating the sprinkler system would have been put out of service before the attack commenced.

    This was done on purpose, so as not to extinguish any fire caused by the planted explosives, and so as to create the “plane crash” illusion and give some substance to the preposterous “office fires-induced collapse” tall tale.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  212. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Go to Hell, Whizz.

    • Replies: @WIzard of Oz
  213. @JLK

    Sue, just like there’s plenty of evidence that the FBI and CIA had certain leads which were not pursued. What is more of an issue about Israeli foreknowledge is whether or not something truly significant was deliberately withheld from the US. It is acknowledged that the Israelis sent a warning of some kind to the Bush administration in August 2001:

    http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg77113.html

    “The Telegraph has learnt that two senior experts were with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the CIA and FBI to the existence of a cell of as many as 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation.”

    Did they subsequently hide more detailed information as they became aware of something more? That’s possible, but unproven. However some aspects of the claims which circulate about alleged Israeli foreknowledge, such as the assertion that Odigo warned Jewish employees at the WTC, are patently false. The Odigo pop-up messages were sent to 2 employees within Israel, not to anyone in New York, and contained no specific information. The 2 Israeli employees subsequently reported the messages when they learned of 911.

    As far as warnings to the Bush administration, it is known that many warnings were ignored:

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2012/09/11/shocking-911-warnings-more-numerous-previously-thought

    Did a deliberate failure by Israeli officials to send further information to the White House after the August warning occur, and did such a deliberate failure somehow clinch the occurrence of 911? That can be entertained as a hypothesis, but it’s far from proven.

    • Replies: @WIzard of Oz
    , @anon
  214. Iris says:
    @Sparkon

    You are the gullible fool who posted Duff’s photo of the glacial pothole as proof of a basement nuke

    There is nothing “gullible” about Heinz Pommer and Gordon Duff’ s interrogation about an actual, original and mind-challenging geological piece of information, and their attempt to understand how it fitted within the larger picture hypothesis. This is how the scientific process works.

    Plus, a glacial pothole so close from sea level is an extremely rare occurrence.
    And at the time they made this assumption, the depth of the explosion chamber wasn’t known yet. They had every reason to make such an assumption, which could only be disproved by an honest geologist, one that wouldn’t be scared to contradict the 9/11 official mantra.

    You attitude, on the contrary, is to brush off any difficult question and is totally unscientific. Not only you pick and chose “information” that fits your pre-conceived narrative, but even worse, you don’t even use basic common in interpreting this information.

    Your conclusion that the Towers’ debris just disappeared sideways is beyond ludicrous: the WTC entire footprint was miniscule, compared to the mountain of debris that should have resulted from 2 X 110 collapsed storeys.

    Plus, this is not even a subject of discussion: first responders have highlighted how they could not distinguish any of the architectural fitting, sinks, offices furniture, etc.., normally found in a collapse. So the fact that matter was pulverised is obvious and undisputable.

    A standard classic demolition results in a pile of debris of approximately 30% of the initial building’s height. Nothing of the sort happened at the WTC, 3 times in a row. Most of the 3 Towers was reduced to fine dust, proving that they were destroyed by a physics phenomenon capable of shattering matter at the molecular level. Only a shockwave resulting from a nuclear detonation could have achieved that.

    The question “Where did the Towers go?” remain a very relevant one: the answer indicates pulverisation of matter at molecular level, a feat that traditional explosives, let alone “plane crashes” could have never achieved.

    • Agree: The Old Philosopher
    • Thanks: Mevashir
  215. Iris says:
    @Mevashir

    Literally zero fallout?

    Yes Mevashir, fusion (merging atoms) can have in theory zero radioactive fallout, contrary to fission (breaking up atoms).

    – Fusion Lithium/Hydrogen (Li7+H1), requires 0.5 billion degree K, by-product is 2 Helium He4 nuclei

    – Fusion Bore/Hydrogen (B17+H1), requires 1 billion degree K, by-)product is 3 Helium He4 nuclei

    The outcome of these “green”, “clean” fusion reactions, produces in principle, neither radioactivity nor neutrons. Apart from the explosion itself, the only by product is common Helium, a gas so harmless it is used to blow up children’s balloons.

    The problem always was how to reach these billion degree temperatures. It was overcome by a discovery accidentally made in 2003, confirmed in 2006, by an American laboratory working on a Z machine, a test installation used to experiment on nuclear weapons. They accidentally achieved temperatures in a range of 2 to 3 billion degree K.

    https://www.osti.gov/biblio/991002-ion-viscous-heating-magnetohydrodynamically-unstable-pinch-over-two-billion-kelvin

    Below is a older comment on the topic: you may want to look at the entire discussion, if you are interested and patient enough to scroll through the usual (and similar) trolls.
    https://www.unz.com/audio/kbarrett_elliot-abrams-and-the-nuking-of-beirut-on-press-tv-richie-allen-show/?highlight=Z+machine#comment-4102072

    How is Israel able to develop new kinds of nukes when they don’t have the means to test them?

    Israel did not develop or invent anything whatsoever. Unfortunately, for reasons unclear to me, Israelis took possession and control of this all-American discovery. French scientists who tried to enquire and ask questions about the American Z-machine breakthrough results ended up being directed to a PR officer in Tel Aviv. Why? Your guess is better than mine.

    But this is the reason why I posit that it is Israel who blew up the Beirut harbour with new, scalable, undetectable nuclear fission weapons, that have been in development since 2006. G. Duff is most likely right about that too.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  216. @Anon

    I’m not sure about the company. How would I recognise you amongst all the other cowardly bug eyed malignant anons?

  217. @Patrick McNally

    You may sensibly have joined the short winded mouthbreathers in not reading my more prolix comments but I take it you would acknowledge the possibility that Ron Unz has something right in his drawing attention to malign neocons in DC because that logically allows for a couple of them wanting to allow the Arabs to create a new Pearl Harbor and, accordingly manipulating the way the information was presented in the White House.

    That, as I have said, is my most slimmed down scenario for an Israel centric plot. Logical, isn’t it? Plausible if we knew the actual nrocons who could have done it? Who knows?

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  218. eddik says:

    There is a missing intriguing event linked to 9/11 and the “Dancing Israelis” : the case of the Brooklyn born developer Larry Silverstein who “by miracle” was saved when his wife, Klara, reminded him he had an appointment with his dermatologist instead of going to work at the Towers.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wtc-terrorism-insurance/

    • Replies: @Iris
  219. Sarah says:
    @Iris

    It breaks my heart to see ever more of these people in the streets of Europe too; I refuse to call them trash, they are victims. Governments that secretly tolerate, promote and manage drug trafficking against their own population are genocidal war criminals.

    Me too ; I agree.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Thanks: Iris
  220. Iris says:
    @eddik

    Great point. It is even more “intriguing” than that, since Silverstein’s daughter and son also had an epiphany and miraculously avoided that fatal 9/11 meeting:

    HIGH-LEVEL INDIVIDUALS AVOIDED DANGER ON 9/11

    The fortunate circumstances that kept the high-level individuals out of danger the morning of 9/11 were quite extraordinary. Larry Silverstein survived the attacks supposedly because his wife forced him to go to a doctor’s appointment instead of a meeting at the WTC; Silverstein’s son and daughter survived because, independently of each other, they were running late; his top aide survived because he cut short a meeting he was in at the top of the North Tower; his publicist agreed to join a meeting at the WTC at 9:00 a.m. instead of 8:00 a.m.; and others associated with Silverstein Properties may have avoided danger due to the cancellation of a meeting on the 88th floor of the North Tower.

    http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-28/wtc-leaseholder-and-his-associates-cheated-death-911-was-it-coincidence-or-foreknowledge

  221. @RichardDuck

    It’s always amused me that somehow the plain simple fact that the government is promulgating the most outrageous and unlikely conspiracy theory out there never gets mentioned.

  222. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Iris

    A standard classic demolition results in a pile of debris of approximately 30% of the initial building’s height. Nothing of the sort happened at the WTC, 3 times in a row. Most of the 3 Towers was reduced to fine dust, proving that they were destroyed by a physics phenomenon capable of shattering matter at the molecular level. Only a shockwave resulting from a nuclear detonation could have achieved that.

    And nukes suggests both US Deep State and Zionist involvement.

    Back to Democrat ((LBJ’s)) treason involving the USS Liberty and attacks on it by the ((Jewish)) state: the treason-doers saw what they could get away with. The Republicans — supposedly patriots — did nothing. But that was on foreign soil. Presumably a treasonous attack on the homeland would be a different story. That’s why the ((Jews)) needed the ((neocons)) to chip away at the GOP.

    It worked. Today a treasonous neocon Republican ex-president who used 9/11 as a pretext to take America into war for Zionism — his fingers caught in the till — has declared America Firsters to be the equivalent of Muslim terrorists.
    https://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/who-and-what-is-tearing-the-us-apart/#comment-4902253

  223. Mevashir says:
    @Iris

    Thank you for this wonderful information. You are a true blessing on this thread. Unfortunately due to Ron’s scathing comment to me above, I don’t wish to participate here anymore:
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/another-look-at-9-11-ask-not-what-happened-but-who-did-it/#comment-4911072

    There was nothing nonsensical about what I was trying to post. I was providing insight into the mindset of the perpetrators of 9/11 and how they might justify to themselves their horrific actions.

    I’m wondering if Ron is a sociopath. I don’t think he actually cares about any of the problems that are discussed on his website. I think it’s more an intellectual puzzle for him. I think that puts him in the category of a sociopath or maybe even a psychopath devoid of empathy. When you listen to him talk his voice is devoid of all emotion another tell for psychopathology.

    Anyway I don’t enjoy getting beaten up on his website by him or his commenters. I really appreciate the information you have shared and I hope you can find a forum that deserves your respectful and well informed input.

    Shalom

  224. Mevashir says:
    @Iris

    Another wonderful reply chock full of useful information presented in a respectful manner. Probably far more than sparkon deserves. Ms Iris you rock!

  225. Mevashir says:
    @Iris

    Yes Mevashir, fusion (merging atoms) can have in theory zero radioactive fallout, contrary to fission (breaking up atoms).

    So this would be the complete opposite of a neutron bomb which as I understand it maximizes Fallout to kill people and leaves buildings standing. But this fusion weapon would do the opposite, correct?

    My uncle was a nuclear physicist at Stanford and CERN who served on Nixon’s Arms Control committees. Unfortunately he recently passed away, but when I saw him three years ago he told me he went to Iran as part of a special investigatory commission sent by Obama and they concluded that the Israelis are greatly exaggerating the dangers of the Iranian nuclear program. People also forget that the United States gave nuclear reactors to Iran when the Shah was in power as part of the Atoms for peace program.

  226. anon[129] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/19/business/accounting-firms-tax-loopholes-government.html- NYT can dissect the tangled relationship between gov and the corporate ,between the law -drafting agencies and the beneficiaries of the law, between the firm sending higher-ups to gov and taking them back after the stints with the desired results in the pockets, and NYT in other times have figured out deep influences of the lawmakers in making laws about LGBT/Abortion or between the religion of Jihadist and their target . Why cant NYT use the same simple standard between Israel and passage of bills in its favor ,between Judaism and settlement ,between Judaism and anti Iran narrative, between the age old blood sacrifice and wars ,between the religiously colored Amalek and economic an dotter wars against Iran ,between the PNAC’;s old association with Israel and war agisnt Iraq .
    Why cant it think that 911 was a prerequisite to change the world upside down in its favor . Before 911 forcing Israeli hand was a common theme .Before 911 ,sending money to Israel was a debatable issue , before 911 torture imprisonment and shooting the innocent or the children by military (IDF) were deplorable ,before 911 ,before 911 Jerusalem was not capital ,before 911 Golan was occupied and West Bank and Gaza had rights not to be under blockade and sanctions ,before 911 Israel was shitty country to France and Isreali behaviors of forging passports were denounced with recall of envoys ,before 911 providing free meal on the table of Israelis were not the main concerns of poor Americans . Before 911

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  227. @Iris

    Iris,

    I understand your hypothesis involves fission bombs detonated at -96 meters into bedrock. What happened to the radiation?

    Can your hypothesis be validated by a physical examination? I’m approaching this as a lay person. Say a warrant could issue. Assume we could gather bore samples. What sort of test(s) would confirm or debunk your theory that the three WTC buildings were demolished by nuclear energy? Could we expect to find irrefutable evidence of that in an explosion chamber?

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  228. Iris says:
    @Niebelheim

    I understand your hypothesis involves fission bombs detonated at -96 meters into bedrock. What happened to the radiation?

    Hi. The WTC nuclear demolition was a classic, ordinary case of underground nuclear testing. The overwhelming number of nuclear tests ever carried out in history were done in that fashion.

    I counted that the official number undertaken by the USA, USSR and France combined was 1,471. To which you can add another 3, carried out by the Zionists for demolition purposes on 9/11. The only difference is that there were buildings with people inside atop the detonation sites.

    An underground nuclear detonation is purposely designed to contain the radioactive fallout: it is mentioned even in its basic Wikipedia definition.

    Underground nuclear testing is the test detonation of nuclear weapons that is performed underground. When the device being tested is buried at sufficient depth, the nuclear explosion may be contained, with no release of radioactive materials to the atmosphere.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_nuclear_weapons_testing#:~:text=Underground%20nuclear%20testing%20is%20the%20test%20detonation%20of,no%20release%20of%20radioactive%20materials%20to%20the%20atmosphere.

    The reason why this containment (almost) works is because radiation is made of moving matter, which is stopped by the rock and cannot corrode it.
    If the detonation occurs deep enough inside the bedrock, the radioactive particles will have to travel through a thick layer of rock to get to the surface. Most of it will be trapped into the shattered rock, with only a tiny fraction making it to the surface by randomly finding a way through the cracks.

    The amount of radioactive fallout would have been tiny, but still required taking precautions, which wasn’t done. This resulted in a striking epidemic of radiation-induced cancers among 9/11 first responders: 10,000+ got cancer, and 3000 have already died from it.

    Can your hypothesis be validated by a physical examination?

    It has already been proven true by the thermal calculations made by Pr Francois Roby. Please see my comments 158 and 190.

    The heat released by the WTC was assessed and found to be in the order of magnitude of a 900 MVA nuclear reactor’s energy capacity. For reasons of compacity, only nuclear explosives could have produced such effect. It is an open and closed case, a discussion closed within 5 minutes if such free discussion were allowed.

  229. Iris says:
    @Niebelheim

    Could we expect to find irrefutable evidence of that in an explosion chamber?

    For clarity, yes, such evidence is available and will remain available for decades, probably centuries.

    The Twin Towers’ former footprints (at minus 21 metres below street level) have been first concreted to fill in any crack, then turned into water basins. It is not a random choice, water is the preferred media to contain radioactivity, used for that purpose in all civil nuclear reactors.

    What would be required is to install a boring machine in the middle of a former Twin Tower footprint, and drill the bedrock for soil samples. The radioactive matter and vitrified rock will be picked up very quickly, there won’t even be the need to go down to -75 metres below bedrock level.

    It could be done in 1 to 2 days.

    https://theconstructor.org/geotechnical/boring-methods-soil-sampling/31869/#:~:text=%20Boring%20Methods%20for%20Soil%20Sampling%20%201,stiff%20soils%20and%20rocks.%20Percussion%20drilling…%20More%20

  230. @Sarah

    Wanting to stop the sprinkler systems would be a very good motive for Islamic terrorists who pan to slam buildings into the Towers. It’s not such a wise motive for secret conspirators who intend to place hidden bombs within the building but wish to hide the explosions under cover of a jet-crash causing the collapse. While I remain undecided about what really caused the apparent explosions in the basement, it’s not at all obvious that attributing these explosions to an attack by Islamic fundamentalists isn’t the best explanation.

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  231. It has already been proven true by the thermal calculations made by Pr Francois Roby. Please see my comments 158 and 190.

    I did peruse your link to that report. I followed the lay explanation, not the formulas, which are way outside of my ken; and using common sense I find it highly plausible to imagine the source of the heat of that magnitude burning for over three months in those three specific locations to be something other than the 20,000 gallons of jet fuel that likely dissipated itself rapidly. I’m convinced the heat pockets are a big red flag and it’s really piqued my curiosity. Thank you so much for your compelling presentation of your thesis and all of the supporting substantive information with which you defend it.

    But for lay persons such as myself who lack your frame of reference for the values expressed by those “elegant” formulas, it would be even more compelling to see the cavity of the blast and any tell tale alteration of the mineral structure of the bedrock subjected to such intense heat. I’m envisioning core samples and methods used in geophysics to map subterranean caverns. Whether that’s possible is out of my area of expertise.

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  232. @WIzard of Oz

    The thing is that when it gets to this kind of point it really does remind me of the Reichstag fire. Contrary to what is sometimes presumed by some, most historians have generally accepted that Hitler had nothing to do with setting the Reichstag building on fire. It was done by a lone nut anarchist Marinus van der Lubbe. Lubbe had for awhile explored the Dutch Communist Party, but he broke from them as he lost patience with the Communist International. He simply acted on his own.

    For a few decades after WWII it was widely believed that agents of the SA had somehow set the building on fire and used Lubbe as a dupe. But eventually it was concluded that Hitler had merely taken advantage of an event as it occurred. Of course Hitler had always intended to establish his own one-man dictatorship as soon as he gained the Chancellorship. The decisions made after Lubbe set the building on fire were what Hitler had always planned upon doing somehow, in some way. But it does seem that this just a matter of adapting one’s agenda to the circumstances and seizing on an opportunity while it was there.

    Now it is clear that neocons had advocated for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein before 911. The Israeli government was more seriously interested in Iran, but neocons with more experience dealing with the US public had decided that it would be easier to sell the public on a war in Iraq and then use this to surround Iran. There’s no doubt that well-placed people were looking around for an opportunity to do something like this, just as Hitler of January 30, 1933, started looking around for a chance to pass the Enabling Act. But it still may be that, as apparently was the case with Hitler, the neocons were simply latching onto an opportunity as it arose.

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  233. Mevashir says:
    @Iris

    https://youtu.be/CCFs0PtzeVE
    Do you think this is a realistic portrait of Putin?

    And thank you for your steady stream of sober-minded information regarding the nuclear angle of the 9/11 attacks. Perhaps the outrage this could generate would be sufficient to motivate the American public out of its mass media induced stupor and motivate them to demand justice!

  234. Sparkon says:
    @Iris

    Your conclusion that the Towers’ debris just disappeared sideways is beyond ludicrous

    You’re lying. Nowhere have I ever said or concluded anything like that at all.

    Rather, I have said that debris ejected from the Twin Towers did a lot of damage to surrounding structures. See, for example, my comments 178 and 192, above.

    You really are a shameless liar.

    The idea of underground nuclear explosions at the WTC is refuted by the undamaged condition after Sept. 11, 2001 of large parts of the voluminous areas below the WTC.

    For people who have seen the surface destruction, either in pictures or in person, it may be hard to imagine that anything is intact below ground. But engineers and recovery officials say that large parts of the underground perimeter are undamaged, even though the buildings above them are partly collapsed.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/01/nyregion/a-nation-challenged-the-vault-below-ground-zero-silver-and-gold.html

    There were gold vaults containing a fortune in gold bars and other riches that were located beneath WTC 4 and WTC 6, at the very least.

    Would the 9/11 conspirators have risked destroying or irradiating their booty by setting off nuclear explosions nearby? I don’t think so, and in any event, there is no sign of any such underground nuclear explosion in any of the available photographs.

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  235. On the matter of 9/11 truth, far more crucial than the question of ‘Who did it?’ is ‘Who was behind it?’. After all, it was hitmen who shot Vito Corleone in THE GOFATHER, but they were hired by Sollozzo ‘the Turk’ who, in turn, served the Tattaglia Clan. And behind the Tattaglias was Barzini, the real Soros-like would-be-nemesis of the Corleone Family. Because of the ‘buffers’ between Barzini and the hitmen, he could pretend to be a neutral party among adversaries and even pretend to broker a deal. So, what really mattered in the end was the Corleone knowledge who was behind it. Of course, as Barzini gave the go-ahead, one could say he DID IT. But when there are hidden layers to any given event, there is what might be construed as plausible deniability for the one who standing in the shadows. It’s like the devious general played by Adolph Menjou in PATHS OF GLORY. He manipulates people and hints & nods this way and that, but because he uses suggestions and ‘buffers’, he could always pretend to be above the fray and unprejudiced. And it’s not like Arnold Rothstein did the footwork in fixing the World Series. He had others do it for him while keeping a distance. And Hyman Roth invokes plausible deniability in THE GODFATHER PART 2 when Michael Corleone presses him on who had Pantangeli killed. Roth says the Rosato Brothers, and that is incontestable, but then, who gave the go-ahead? It is then that Roth says he acted in the interest of ‘business’, just like Michael had done in taking out Moe Green. Roth both wins and loses the argument in that scene. By making a point that Michael is a killer too, Roth puts him in his place, especially as Moe Green was dear to him. Also, by mentioning how he’d risen above the ‘personal’ and accepted Green’s death as fait accompli in the interests of ‘business’, he demands Michael do the same in regards to Pantangeli. And yet, Roth loses too as he lets the mask slip, just enough to convince Michael that it is indeed ‘personal’ with Roth who can never forgive the Sicilians for having killed a fellow Jew who was like his ‘kid brother’. It’s like Michael could never forgive those who plotted to kill his father despite claiming that it’s about ‘business’. At any rate, we need to remember that the Power uses a lot of buffers. This is why RICO laws were necessary to indict the higher-ups who gave the go-ahead. Of course, laws are only as good as those enforcing it. So, while the government will go after higher-ups in the mafia when the lowly goons kill someone, no such connections are made when Jewish globo-Zionist supremacists fund and recruit Antifa and BLM lunatics to attack Americans. The government is paralyzed when it comes to Jewish Power. There isn’t anyone like Lee Van Cleef in FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE who has the guts to take on the killer. Everyone gets cold feet when confronted with Jewish Power. Donald Trump love to talk big, but when face-to-face with Jewish Power, the only words out of his mouth was, “Can I suck your dic*?” And, while Jews pretend it’s all ‘business’, it really boils down to being Tribal.

    [MORE]

    There is much to be learned from THE GODFATHER… and GOODFELLAS as well. Though about crime among Sicilian/Italian-Americans, THE GODFATHER stands as a metaphor for the rise of ethnic power in America. Part I is about how ethnics need tribal solidarity because the WASP-rigged Rule of Law doesn’t always play fair, as Bonasera found out the hard way. And Part II is about how Wasps are a bunch of prejudiced hypocrites who say one thing but do another. Follow the way of Wasps and you end up like Senator Geary, a two-faced whore politician, or like Kay, an innocent who still believes in Girl Scout virtues. So, the Family, which is bound by blood and sentiment, is all important, which is why Michael cannot forgive Kay for killing the baby and Fredo for having cut a deal with Roth.
    No doubt Jews saw a lot of themselves in THE GODFATHER. If THE GRADUATE was like a coming-out party for pushy Jewish neurosis(though Dustin Hoffman played a Wasp), THE GODFATHER was like a coming out party for ethnic power as a whole. “We are beating the Wasps.” And even though Michael battles the arch-enemy Roth, Jewish viewers sensed in Michael’s intelligence and cunning a set of traits closer to Jewishness. When THE GODFATHER movies first aired on TV as THE GODFATHER SAGA(told in chronological order), one Jewish kid in school got so excited that he read the novel and couldn’t stop talking about it. I didn’t know then but I can guess as to why in retrospect. He was one of those ultra-Jewish Zionist types and probably sensed in the rise of the Corleones a metaphor for the rise of Jewish Immigrant Power.
    THE GODFATHER is instructive because Sicily in the movie can be seen as metaphor for Israel. Michael makes ‘Aaliyah’ to his ancestral land and reconnects with deeper roots. Sure, US is bigger and richer, and many Sicilians would love to ask any G.I. “to take me to America”. But Michael becomes aware of a consciousness deeper than laws, rights, liberty, and wealth, things which draw peoples around the world to America. Americanism is ultimately about individualism and materialism. It’s a sail but not an anchor. The modern ‘exodus’ was like a mass-Aaliyah of Jews to the Holy Land, not only to visit and reconnect but to take over and form a new nation based on ancient roots. Just as THE GODFATHER cannot be understood without Michael’s transformation from a boy-scout American who believes in the Constitution & red-white-and-blue patriotism to a grownup family man with cultural roots & tribal loyalties, Jewish Power cannot be understood without its connections and loyalties that go much deeper than American Identity & Interests. When Jews say ‘America’, they really mean its utility to Jewish tribal-supremacism. Journals like ‘American Interest’ are essentially Zionist and Judeo-centric. Thus, Jewish-American history is not about Jews assimilating to generic Americanism defined by the Constitution but about Jews reshaping all American institutions, industries, icons, and idols to serve or at least complement Jewish Supremacist interests. In this, current America is indeed a Jewish gangster-fascist state(as opposed to a decent humanist-fascist one), and the workings of the Deep State obeisant to Jews are much like that of the mafia. Jews exposed WASP hypocrisy about the Constitution — White America spoke of liberty and equality but denied full rights to others based on race and even ethnicity — to delegitimize Anglo-American power, but ultimately it wasn’t to create a ‘more perfect union’ based on universal(or at least colorblind) Constitutional principles but to install a new system that would be amenable to Jewish supremacism. Just ask the Palestinians. For all their talk of ‘systemic racism’ of ‘white supremacism’, Jews demand all whites to support Jewish Power and Zionism over Palestinians and Arabs. For all the BLM idolatry used to shame and ‘guilt-bait’ whites, the very Jews who push ‘social justice’ for blacks do everything in their power to suppress BDS, a movement calling for justice for Palestinians who are on the verge of losing their last few remaining territories. You won’t see PALESTINIAN LIVES MATTER signs across America because Jews control the academia & media and because whites, ‘blue’ or ‘red’, are such ridiculous cuckeroos to Jewish Power.

    Based on Martin Scorsese’s gangster films GOODFELLAS, CASINO, and THE IRISHMAN, one gets the impression that the mafia faced steep decline beginning in the early 80s. One gets the impression that the government finally got its act together to put organized crime in its place(if not totally eradicate it). But there was more than one reason for the fall of the Italian-American Mob. One had to do with family-centrism. Whereas Jewish identity was essentially tribal(and spiritual-historical), Italian identity was essentially family-or-clan-oriented. This meant too many blood feuds among Italians, making it impossible for them to come together as a cohesive community. In THE GODFATHER, the Italian families wipe each other out. It’s like blackness is usually about ‘muh gang vs yo gang’, what with East Coast Rappers and West Coast Rappers dissing one another, or the war between the Crips and the Bloods. While internecine Jewish violence existed, it was never to the extent among Italians or blacks, or among the Irish — it’s been said Irish national identity was more viable in the US because the Irish in Ireland were usually at each other’s throat. Perhaps, the stronger sense of male pride made things bloodier among the ‘goombas’. There was another problem with family-centrism owing to the rising libertinism of youth culture and the impact of feminism. Family power relies on patriarchy, and younger Italians took on a more defiant attitude toward elders. And Italian-American womenfolk became more ‘independent’. Also, it was only natural that the smarter and saner among the Italian-Americans would join the mainstream, making the mafia even more reliant on the dregs of society.
    But it also had to do with Jews. Jewish Power wasn’t only gunning for WASPS in control of ‘virtue’ institutions & industries but the ethnics(especially the Italians and others in control of Labor Unions with their fat pension funds) with their hooks on vice industries.

    Jews, with their power over academia and media, would gain control of the gods and redefine what is holy and unholy. The New Normal in virtue would be philosemitism and even globo-homo. Today, it’s oh-so-virtuous to wave the ‘gay’ flag while it’s questionable to say ‘Jesus Is King’. White Symbols are deemed satanic and must be removed… and replaced by Jewish-favored symbolism.

    A Nation Conquered: Gay Pride Flag to Replace Robert E Lee Statue.


    What passes for the New Normal in ‘virtue’ is really a form of neo-satanism, but most Nice People don’t think seriously about what is good and bad. Rather, they are easily swayed with symbolism, iconography, and narrative as to who/what are holy or unholy. The priority of Nice People is to be approved, liked, and welcomed by whatever has prestige and status in the moment. Of course, as Nice is generic and bland, it is partial to Spice(provided by salty Jews, peppery blacks, and minty homos). Anglo-Americans used to control the gods. US used to be a Christian country in which European-Americans had special claim and pride of discovery, settlement, founding, and development. That had to go in order to bolster Jewish Power as the controllers of the gods. The New Normal in Virtue is all about ‘diversity’, ‘equity’, and ‘inclusion’, of course, as Jews define those things as the last thing Jews want is equity between Jews and Arab-Americans and inclusion of (pro)Palestinian voices on the editorial board of NYT and WAPO. To gain control of the gods, the icons of ‘virtue’, Jews needed to bring down the WASPS.

    But Jews also wanted control of vice industries. Too much money to be made in gambling, drugs, and sexuality. Jews took over prostitution from blacks by having pornography legalized. In regards to gambling and drugs, as long as they were deemed as vices, they belonged to the underworld with questionable legal protection. Gangsters could buy favors from politicians and the police, but there was a limit to crony relations between outlaws and the law(unless we’re talking of countries like Mexico where it’s hard to tell where the law ends and crime begins). It’s like Vito Corleone says the Law will tolerate gambling and even prostitution to some degree but may not do so with narcotics.
    At any rate, as long as certain vice industries were illegal, it favored the Italians over the Jews. Operating in the dark underworld, Italians could use muscle to bump off or intimidate their rivals, including Jews. And Jews couldn’t rely on the law for protection since they too were operating in the dark. But if vice industries were made respectable — “Desert Inn has heart”, Las Vegas as the Christmas Place to Be — , they could have all the legal protection from the Establishment that would, sooner than later, become dependent on handouts from the industry. Consider how both parties were once loathe to be associated, at least directly, with the gambling industry, but today, even the GOP, as the party of ‘conservative’ values, is totally servile to Jewish-Zionist moguls of Las Vegas. And what are Mormons about except More-Money? Once the vice became legal, Jews could make lots of money and have legal protection against the Mob. Today, legalization of marijuana means even more money for the Jews. This was why the Italians hardly made any headway in Hollywood, which was legal from day one. Jews made money legitimately from day one by making & marketing movies and had the protection of the law, especially with all the money they threw at it. It’s like the police chief in BIG LEBOWSKI goes out of his way to protect the Jewish pornographer played by Ben Gazzara, a ‘respectable’ member of community because pornography has been legalized and is a big money maker.
    Though Scorsese didn’t spell out the ethnic angle — he came closest to it in CASINO, not least because of the character of Ace Rothstein — , his gangster movies are like barbed lamentations of the fall of Italian Power when sin was sacralized and came to be owned by Jews with backing of the law. CASINO ends with the image of mob-controlled gambling palaces being demolished to make for new ones erected with ‘clean’ Wall Street money. The money, instead of coming from grubby Labor Unions with their ties to Italian hoodlums, now came from respectable Wall Street firms run by Jews and Wasps(who now followed the lead of the Tribe as the New Boss in town).

    But did the fall of the Italian Mob mean the US became a better and cleaner country? No. The forces that demolished the Mob took on all the facets of the Mob. Indeed, GOODFELLAS could now be seen as metaphor for the Deep State that attracts the kind of people who see themselves as being above the law. They want to be ‘made men’. It’s like the US is ruled by the Jewish Mafia or Schmafia, which has tentacles in every corner of society: government, media, academia, finance, entertainment, gambling, real estate, NGO’s, Antifa, etc. If Jews want to bomb a country, the Schmafia coordinates among Jews in think tanks, media, and deep state. If Jews want to rig an election, they marshal forces to ‘fortify’ the results. If Jews want to intimidate MAGA people or shut down free speech, they use their goons in industries or on the streets, not unlike how the guys in GOODFELLAS make sure mail from school doesn’t get delivered to Henry’s home. If ADL wants someone shut down, Jewish-run Paypal and Jewish-run Media(and all the worthless cuck-dogs) go along and work in tandem.

    If Jews want to spread fear and hysteria, they call on their hirelings in deep state and media to push something crazy like ‘Russia Collusion’ Hoax. If Jews want to rake in big bucks and gain control over us, they use the Medico-Tyranny of Covid Hysteria. If Jews want more money, they play more dice on Wall Street as just an extension of Las Vegas, and if they lose, they get bailouts from whore-politicians like Barack Obama and grow even richer. Like Paulie in GOODFELLAS, Jews win no matter what. What Paulie does with the restaurant is like what Jews did with the Housing Bubble that led to the crash of 2008. Of course, Jews didn’t get punished but even got richer with Obama as their toady. Of course, what Jews did to Russia in the 90s was even worse. And Jews wonder why the Holocaust happened.

    Jews get to decide what is what. BLM and Antifa scum running amok and burning down parts of cities? That’s OK as they’re useful to Jewish Power. But those Jan. 6 protesters, they are ‘domestic terrorists’ and must be placed in solitary confinement and be treated like Abu Grahib prisoners. As for free speech, forget about it. It’s only for Jews, not for goyim(unless their idea of ‘free speech’ is to parrot the Jewish line). Jews in deep state work with Jews in media and big-tech to silence anyone they don’t like. And Jews in finance go along and deny service to people based on ideology. It’s like Americans are now Palestinians. But because Jews control the gods and Jewishness is deemed holy, even those negatively affected by Jews don’t name the Jew but complain about ‘Chinese-style censorship’ when in fact Censchwarzship in the West is Jewish-conceived and predates whatever the Chinese government is doing now.

    In a crucial way, the rise of Jewish Vice cannot be understood apart from Jewish control of Virtue. Once Jews gained control of the gods and made Jewishness into a icon of holy-holocaustianity, it became taboo to call out on bad Jewish behavior. Why, that’d be ‘antisemitic’. So, both parties hail Jews, suck up to Jews, no matter what Jews do. Whatever differences Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi may have, they are 100% agreed on the duty of all Americans to lick the Jewish Boot. Notice the total silence on both the ‘left’ and ‘right’ when Jonathan Pollard was sprung from prison and flown to Israel where he gave the US a big fat middle finger… and standing right next to Netanyahu. The cult of Jewish Virtue made Jews sacrosanct. US is said to be anti-theocratic, but its religion is the trinity of Jew-Negro-Homo worship. No amount of rational or factual argumentation can justify the casting of doubt on the purity of Jewish-Black-Homo souls(and bodies). Then, it’s hardly surprising that the more Jews have been sacralized, more satanic they’ve become. It’s the logic of power to grow more abusive and corrupt if unchecked. Same with black violence. One might think it’s rather odd that black body counts piled up after 2020 when the national slogan was BLM or Black Lives Matter. But BLM is predicated on the sacral view of blacks as holy innocents and soulful saints who are being hunted down by ‘white supremacist’ cops feverish with ‘systemic racism’. It means all the moral burden is on whites and none on blacks. Blacks, being naturally more prone to violence than other races, were bound to act even worse when indulged in such way. If a violent alcoholic is hailed as the most exemplary teetotaler, of course he’s going to drink more and do more damage. Why would he stop when his drunkenness is said to epitomize the highest virtues of sobriety?

    Perhaps, some people are beginning to wake up… which may be Jews are even more hysterical in pushing Covid nonsense to maintain total grip on us. Take the Jeffrey Epstein affair. The circumstances surrounding his death is something out of a gangster movie. On the night of his demise, the cameras weren’t working and guards were asleep. This wasn’t just some ‘any prisoner’ but the most famous or infamous one in America, a scandalous public figure. The government and the media should have been watching his every move, but the story was disappeared after the official narrative came out about his ‘suicide’. US bitches about Russia as a gangster state, but how did this happen in the US? And what really happened? Was Epstein secretly ferreted out and sent to Israel while a body double was used as corpse? Or was he told, like Pantangeli in THE GODFATHER PART 2, to kill himself for the good of the Tribe? If Epstein did kill himself, he must have done so on order, but then, who gave the order? Or was the order given and refused by Epstein, therefore he had to be killed in MICHAEL CLAYTON style. Of course, there is the possibility that the official story is true, and he really did kill himself out of depression, but the circumstances surrounding the death are too suspect. It suggests gangster operation. Given the strangeness of the events, why weren’t the media and FBI pursuing all possibilities? They had no problem pulling out all the stops when it came to the fantasy of Russia Collusion, but on the matter of Epstein, it was ‘case closed’ and that’s that.
    At the end of GOODFELLAS, it seems like the ‘goombas’ are finally getting their comeuppances, and forces of the Law finally have the upper hand. But look at the Deep State today, and it’s just a fancier version of the world of Henry Hill and Paul Cicero. And just like the hoods laugh at the Constitution and the suckers who pledge allegiance to the flag, you can bet the Jews and their deep state goons laugh at anyone who invokes the Constitution and patriotism. It’s all about the power, their own. It’s more about The Prince(Machiavelli) than principles.

    Now, what is the operative mode of Jewish Power? Is there like a super-don of the Tribe who gives orders to underlings in a chain of command? Is the Jewish Power structure like that among the Italian mafia or the Japanese yakuza? A strict hierarchy? No. Indeed, such structuralism proved to be an Achilles Heel for the Italians. Italian mafia power depended on bosses and flunkies. Some give orders, some take orders. So, the removal of a top boss could prove fatal for the organization. Or if the command chain was disrupted, things could fall apart. In contrast to the Italians, Jews were more individualistic in their roles. They were more likely to rely on initiative and improvisation, not least because an average Jew was smarter than an average Italian(who would have felt lost without someone telling him what to do). So, even when a top Jew fell or the system was disrupted, Jews were far more adept at regrouping and adapting to new situations. Perhaps, this owes to Covenant consciousness that imbued every Jew, no matter how lowly, with a sense of self-worth as one of the Chosen.
    While Italians could be colorful and expressive, they weren’t truly individualistic in the manner of Jews. But then, individualism among Jews revolved around Jewish identity; it wasn’t like white goy libertarian individualism prone to atomization and personal liberty uber alles.

    Jewish Power was more antennaeic than earphonic. Earphonic power is about taking orders from above. Someone high above gives orders and those below pass the orders to those lower down the line. Earphonic power operates by with specific directives, without which those lower on the rung would feel lost.
    In contrast, antennaeic power is something sensed without being told. It doesn’t have to be spelled out. There doesn’t have to be a meeting of the cabal every so often and memos sent out to every member of the system. Instead, there’s a shared buzz, a mental hum, an understanding that THIS is what it’s all about. It’s like how ants operate. Ants go about their routines not because they are given a set of directives on a day to day basis. Rather, they feel the constant buzz of what needs to be done and what their duties are in relation to fellow ants. And it’s the same among bees. Via their antennas, shakes of the bodies, or droning hums, there is a mutual understanding of what needs to be done.
    Now, such antennaeic sense exists in all groups. After all, if everyone only acted on directives, so much that needs to be done would not get done. Even without orders from above or agreement stamped on paper, members of a unit must have a sense of what must be done(especially in times of crisis) to maintain or restore order, or to expand power and gain extra advantage.
    But the antennaeic sense has been stronger among Jews. Jews understand the power potential of the mental hum. Not for nothing did Jews understand more than most people the importance of electronic mass media. For the first time, humanity had the means to create and sustain a mass hive mind. Millions of people hearing the same radio program or watching the same TV show would share in the same senses and emotions at the same time. It was almost as if all their minds were interconnected into One Mind. So, those who controlled the electronic medium would effectively control the mass hive mind, and this control could be used to strengthen or weaken a people’s sense of identity; it could be used to define their sense of righteous community, to which one’s loyalty would be (re)directed. Prior to electronic media, certain ideas could, over time, spread far and wide through books, newspapers, lectures, and meetings, but each individual or community acquired it in its own way, own place, and own time. Also, each community could filter and adapt the idea or message to its own ends, needs, and liking. But with electronic media, all the country(and even all the world) could be subjected to the exact same images and sounds controlled by the same select elites.
    This power over electronic media meant Jews could mess with the antennaeic sense among goyim. It could be disrupted, distorted, and even re-programmed. It’s like ant and bee behavior can be messed up with electronic signals(or some say). Of course, Jews fear messing up their own antennaeic senses and loyalties, which is the subject of SERIOUS MAN by the Coen Brothers. In the movie, a Jewish family in Minnesota is bombarded by the same set of influences by mass media. TV antenna connects every home to Hive Society, and it means Jewish kids are ‘mass-culturized’ like rest of America. Pop Culture dominates all, and what might it do to Jewish identity? But, Jews have one ace up the sleeve, and it is near-monopoly control of TV and music industry. Thus, even as Jews use the media to promote Pop Culture and Mass Entertainment for everyone, both are subtly designed to subvert and weaken white consciousness while passing-over Jewish identity and interests. The antennaeic power among whites are scrambled and/or reprogrammed while Jewish antennaeic connections remain relatively unperturbed.

    This is why it makes little sense to fixate on some secret cabal of Jews that is hatching the big plan and handing out all the orders. No such single cabal exists. Even though the likes of George Soros and Michael Bloomberg are very rich and powerful, Jewish Power would continue as is even if both were to drop dead this very moment. Jewish Power isn’t earphonic. It’s not a simple matter of powerful Jews whispering orders to lesser Jews, like in National Socialist Germany or militarist Japan. When the Nazi regime was destroyed in Germany, everything related with it faded into dust. When Hirohito told the people, “Look, we are beat” and the military leaders admitted defeat, it was all over for Japan. Orders came from above, and that was that. That was earphonic power.
    But while there is a hierarchy among Jews as well, the essence of Jewish Power is in the antennaeic buzz among the Jews. Jews don’t need to be told what’s what. They sense it. They know and understand and indeed were inculcated in Jewishness from cradle or come to adopt it eventually as what gives the most meaning in alienated modernity. Each Jew is like Barzini who knows without being told. Jews in the media didn’t need to be told about what WMD lies or Russia Collusion Hoax was all about. They sensed what those were about — “Is it good for Jews?” — and did what they could to help out the Tribe. It’s like what Roma says in GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS. One must know without being told, without it being spelled out. That’s how you help each other out in the company.

    Tom Hagen: When I meet with Tattaglia’s men, should I insist all their drug middlemen have clean records?
    Don Corleone: Mention it, don’t insist. But, Barzini will know that without being told.
    Tom Hagen: You mean Tattaglia…
    Don Corleone: Tattaglia is a pimp. He never could have outfought Santino. But I didn’t know until this day that it was Barzini all along.

    The thing about Barzini is he’s smart and perceptive. He knows what’s what. He knows the angles and how to play all sides. Nothing has to be spelled out for him. It’s the difference between a soldier and a hunter. A soldier goes out to fight and kill based on orders. Without orders, he’s a man of peace. But a hunter hunts because that’s what he does. He must make his kill any way he knows how. Blacks evolved to be hunters, which is why they are so restless as thugs and criminals. Among Jews, the game was to hunt the suckers, rich or poor — dimwit goy aristocrats were rich suckers, and Anglo elites proved to be suckers too. Rather than bagging a hippo, wildebeest, or gorilla, Jews were trained to bag the suckers… as in GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS. This led to unpleasant Jewish traits but also self-reliance, initiative, perceptiveness, boldness, and a sense for ambiguity, which allows for passive/aggressive traits among Jews. Take Jordan Belfort, the weasel of Wall Street.
    So, unlike Japanese who are totally lost without a command center telling them what to do, Jews know-without-being-told. Thousands of years of Jewishness taught Jews that wherever they go, they must do what is good for themselves as the members of the ancient tribe of the future. They must do this without being told what-is-what and what-to-do. In contrast, when Japanese move from Japan to the West, their first reaction is to find out who is the boss and what must be done to serve him and win his approval. This is why Francis Fukuyama serves the Jews in the US. He noticed Jews got the power, and his duty as Japanese-American is to serve the big boss, the globo-shogun. And according to James Clavell, the ‘taipan’ is very important in the Chinese context. Jews felt contempt for Teutonic Germans as a people incapable of doing anything without strict orders from above, a people incapable of deviating from orders, no matter how ridiculous or insane.
    In contrast, even though Jews are well-aware that certain Jews are super-oligarchs and moguls who command more respect, they know-without-being-told, and their imperative derives from the prestige of Jewishness itself, not the power of certain rich privileged Jews. Even if all the rich super-Jews were to lose power and wealth in the US, Jews would still know-without-being-told and work in the interests of Jewishness. In contrast, Japanese-Americans will always switch loyalties to the New Boss. In the past, they served the Anglo-American bosses as the US that defeated Japan in WWII was Wasp-dominated. Now, they serve Jewish bosses who are masters of America. If Jewish power were to fall and if the future of America were to be decided by Hindus, Japanese would be serving the Neo-Brahmins. Once Japan lost the war and became a mama-san whore of Uncle Sam, its main objective has been to serve the US and do its bidding like a dog.

    The antennaeic way is crucial to Jewish Power because, despite pathological levels of unscrupulousness, most Jews will not go along with the plans of Crazy Jews if things were spelled out. Imagine a Big Jew saying to a Little Jew: “Look, I’m a Big Jew, and you’re a Little Jew. I know a lot of powerful people, and you little Jews are useful to us. We Big Jews are hatching a plan to bring down the Twin Towers by using Muslim idiots, and we want you Little Jews in the media space to push a certain narrative so that idiot goy Americans will support Wars for Israel.” Even the most pro-Zionist Jew in the media will have a hard time saying YES to a whopper like that. So, the trick for the Big Jew is to carry out the plan without telling the Little Jews(and even most Big Jews who aren’t in the inner circle of the plot). Just do it and rely on the antennaeic sense among Jews to go along regardless of their suspicions(and even sense of outrage) because the (1) Jewish Way is always to circle the wagons and (2) Jews are deathly afraid of Another Holocaust, especially one that confirms Hitler’s view of Jews as agents of subversion and treachery. Jews know-without-being-told what’s up and what they must do. This is why, bigger the Jewish crime, more the Jews close ranks. Part of the reason is tribal loyalty going back to ancient times but another factor is abject fear of being found out by goyim that, gee maybe just maybe, the Anti-Semites were right. The (2) factor affects even good decent Jews. They want fellow Jews to be good and don’t want to support Jews doing bad, but what choice do they have but to go along with the official 9/11 narrative when the alternative, the Jews-done-it theory, would indicate that there is something seriously sick in the Jewish Mindset and vindicate the ‘canards’ of the Anti-Semites? If indeed Israel had a key role in 9/11, it means the US has the moral right to nuke Israel like it did Japan in WWII. It means Hitler, though wrong in the treatment, was right in the diagnosis of Jewishness as a kind of Cancer of History.

    Now, one would think Jews wouldn’t face these problems IF they acted nice and normal. If Jews act good, they got nothing to hide. Or, if they acted bad in the conventional way, they’d be no worse than the rest of humanity that isn’t full of saints either. But, Jews are nothing if not arrogant, ambitious, megalomaniacal, restless, holier-than-thou, and at once self-righteous and nihilistic. They got the god-complex & gangster-mentality and want to play the world like a god-gangster. They want to be the grand chess master of history and also the handicapper and rigger. There are too many Jews with personalities of people like Alan Dershowitz, Mel Brooks, Jordan Belfort, Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, and Jennifer Rubin… and Bobby Fischer, who hated Jews for doing to the world what he did on the chess board: Total arrogance, total control, and total intolerance. Hoping for Jews to be normal by white standards is like expecting Negroes to be ‘nice’. It’s like expecting homos to be modest. It’s like expecting alcoholics to be sober or expecting degenerate gamblers to be self-restrained. Jews see the world like rough-housing homos approach sexuality. It’s there to be f***ed in the ass.

    Now, as to what really happened on 9/11, the official story is plausible if and only if the following scenario is true. The 1990s were such a good time for the US that its intelligence services were asleep at the wheel. It was assumed that terrorism could only happen abroad and never touch US soil. There had been an attack on the World Trade Center in the early 90s, but the instigators were captured and dealt with. There was the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing, but that was domestic terrorism. Also, no one thought the radical Jihadists would be so bold as to carry out such a grandiose plan, one of Wagnerian proportions. Indeed, someone went so far as to say the US security failed in its ‘imagination’. Thus, a Black Swan event happened out of the blue. This narrative is surely true to an extent, i.e. many well-meaning and diligent people working in US security departments really did fail to imagine such a scenario and were genuinely caught off guard. Likewise, most Americans in government were genuinely taken by surprise by the attack on Pearl Harbor. For them, it was indeed a shock. But there’s still the question, what did FDR and the men around him know? Did they steer events to force Japan into a war with the West? Did FDR know the attack was imminent and let it happen? After all, most Americans didn’t want to enter the European War. Partly, it was because of the sour aftermath of World War I, and furthermore, white majority America didn’t want to fight another war where whites killed whites. And if Europeans were slaughtering one another, that was their business. So, the only sure way to stir up public support for war was to have Japanese as Yellow Peril attack the US. Make it a Race War, and then, everything would fall in place as Germany was allied with Japan. If FDR had foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor attack and did nothing, it goes to show that a tragic event need not be an ‘inside job’. The trick is to let an Outside Job happen by goading foreign actors into aggression, either out of desperation or stupid arrogance, or bit of both, as was the case with Japan. The oil and iron embargo drove Japan into desperation, but there were plenty of hotheads in the Japanese militarist state who were willing to gamble it all. FDR only needed to play it cool. Choke off Japanese’s supplies and wait for the hotheads to prevail in Japan. There was no need for an inside job: Americans blowing up Pearl Harbor and then blaming it on the ‘Japs'(and maybe the Nazis too) to pave for US entry into war. (The lies about Gulf of Tonkin Incident were more brazen.)

    Still, there is a big difference between Pearl Harbor and 9/11. That a major attack on Pearl Harbor was planned by the Japanese military is totally plausible. It was a big event hatched by a complex organization with lots of tools to work with. In contrast, 9/11 was, in some ways, even more audacious, but we are to believe it was plotted by a bunch of rag-tag terrorists in the caves of Afghanistan and carried out by a bunch of Muslim ne’er-do-wells with box cutters. Also, if the terrorists had managed to get hold of ONE airplane, maybe it would have made sense. But they nabbed four planes? And one even swooped down and hit the flat Pentagon building at a perfect angle even though, to the best of our knowledge, terrorist-pilots only had the most rudimentary flying skills? And even though the main actors were of Saudi origin, the US grew even cozier with Saudi Arabia while hitting Afghanistan and then Iraq, a nation that had NOTHING to do with 9/11? The two possibilities are the official narrative is essentially true: (1) Muslims with box-cutters caught off-guard the overly complacent Americans and were very lucky in carrying out the plot to successful conclusion, BUT the powers-that-be exploited the event to fulfill the Neocon agenda (2) Even though Muslims were certainly involved, the series of events were orchestrated by a hidden hand, that of Zionist-Globalism.

    If (1) is true, the Neocons have to be the luckiest people in world history. After the end of the Cold War, they were itching to have the US get involved in Wars for Israel, but most Americans lacked enthusiasm and wouldn’t have voted for politicians calling for what came to be known in Neocon circles as ‘World War IV’ premised on the concept of ‘clash of civilizations’. Indeed, Bush II eked into the White House by promising a more humble foreign policy. So, it seemed like the Neocon plan would never come to fruition. US would go on supporting Israel against Palestinians and continue with sanctions against Iraq, but otherwise, the Yinon Plan would remain on paper and never see the light of day.
    Besides, Israel wasn’t about to do the fighting itself. Even as the most powerful nation in the Middle East, it would have been a bridge too far to wage wars on all those Arab/Muslim nations, especially as Jewish blood would have to be spilt. As far as Jews were concerned, Wars for Israel had to be done by goyim whose blood and treasure were seen as expendable. But, just when the Neocon Dream seemed hopeless, out of the blue a bunch of Muslims with box cutters emerged as godsend and carried out the biggest terrorist attacks on US soil and not only made the Wars for Israel likely but inevitable. With Bush II’s approval at 80%, Americans were revved for revenge and mayhem. Were Neocons really so lucky? They were plotting the Wars for Israel and needed a catalyst to set them off, and just like that, the Muslims delivered the ultimate gift that gave Neocons a free pass to do as they pleased for years to come(and the so-called Liberal Jews who took over with Obama even took it further by spreading wars to Libya and Syria, but then Bush II’s wars were an extension of Bill Clinton’s policy of provoking unrest in the Muslim World with sanctions and bombings). Luck is a factor in history, and just because an event favors a certain regime doesn’t mean it was hatched by that regime. Russia and China gained advantages due to US failures and setbacks in the Middle East, but they didn’t cause those events. Rather, US shot itself in the foot, and others gained advantage. (We are not supposed to ask if Jews were involved in 9/11, but Jews had no problem spreading rumors, innuendoes, and outright falsehoods to tie Saddam Hussein to 9/11. Apparently, it’s ‘antisemitic’ to ask if Jews were up to no good, but it’s A-Okay to suspect Arabs/Muslims of doing horrible things even when there is zero evidence.)
    9/11 almost too perfectly fit the Neocon script. And considering that real estate big shots were looking for ways to get rid of the Twin towers and that Larry Silverstein not only bought insurance few months before the attack but missed work on the day of the attack(over some bullshit doctor’s appointment), the whole thing smells like a skunk. And Building 7’s collapse is suspicious too. And the Dancing Israelis and the fact that the US government suddenly dropped all investigations and let them return to Israel also suggest “there’s something happening here, what it is ain’t exactly clear”. And recent media treatments of Jeffrey Epstein story, Hunter Biden’s Laptop, Covid hysteria, and possible election rigging hardly have done much to shore up our confidence in the media as a source of truth and trust. And most journalists are hardly different from politicians. They are status-seekers who serve favored narratives than pursue facts, especially as Political Correctness has turned ideology into idolatry, the holy gods to serve. So-called secular ‘liberals’ are quasi-religious in their conviction that Jews, blacks, & homos are holy while anything associated with the ‘Right’ is evil or, at best, just barely tolerable, if it cucks to Jews, blacks, and homos(like the GOP does all the time). The Religious Mind will always favor the sacred over the factual, which is why we have ‘woke’ journalists pushing the obvious lie of the Russia Collusion Myth(against ‘literally Hitler Trump’) and pretending BLM riots are ‘mostly peaceful protests’ or that rising murder rates among blacks have to do with Covid lockdowns than the enshrinement of moron George Floyd. There is also status vanity: They work for the ‘respectable’ media, so they must be right even when they’re wrong; and those in the ‘alternative’ media must be wrong even when they’re right because anything outside the mainstream is just ‘conspiracy theories’ pushed by basement dwellers, even though Jewish-run mainstream media often push conspiracy theories and mass hysterias(that do far more harm than those peddled by the alt-media).

    Maybe the Neocons had a Luck-of-the-Irish moment with 9/11 as a godsend to their grand plan, but scenario (2) seems far more likely. There’s no doubt Muslim actors were involved, but they seem to have been unwittingly orchestrated. There were many ways Jews could have done this. Some Jews could have posed as radical Muslims and goaded real Muslims toward violence. It’s like the FBI uses ‘informants’ and agent-provocateurs to encourage certain groups to do nutty stuff, all the better to hype the threat posed by ‘extremism’, further expanding FBI’s reach and its good graces with the all-powerful Jews. Also, Jews have posed as Neo-Nazi leaders and led dimwit white-supremacist loser types to make sorry spectacles of themselves, leading to more donations to groups like SPLC and ADL. Frank Collins was really Frank Cohen, a Jewish child-molester. Furthermore, as the Israel-ISIS alliance has shown, Jews and radical Muslims have found ways to work together. Jews are nothing if not two-faced. Jews could have both encouraged radical Sunni Muslims to strike out at their enemies(be they secular modernizers like Assad of Syria, Shia-ruling elites of Iran, or US as great Satan) AND expressed outrage at those attacks, demanding that something be done about Muslim Terrorism. But then, the so-called War on Terror, for the most part, didn’t target radical Muslim terrorists but secular Arab nations. For Jews, ANY kind of Muslim terrorist violence is useful because most people in the West can’t tell an Arab from a Persian, a secular Arab or Christian Arab from a Muslim Arab, or Sunni from a Shia. So, if Jews encourage one bunch of Muslims to carry out violence, they can blame it on whomever they choose in the Middle East and North Africa. Have Saudi terrorists attack the US and then make Americans support war on Iraq ruled by secular Hussein. What do Americans know or care? They are all Ay-Rabs, a bunch of camel jockeys in Chuck Norris movies.

    Now, Jews masquerading as hardline Muslims goading other Muslims to carry out terrorism would be a case of direct Jewish involvement in the plot. But Jews could have done it indirectly as well, and this indirect approach was surely more important. In a windless sea, sails are useless. But where there are lots of wind, one can use the sails to harness the winds and so far. And Jews knew there was a lot of rage, anger, frustration, and bitterness in the Muslim World. The question was how to channel and guide those feelings toward the West. That way, Muslims would carry out the terrorism while the gloved Jewish Hand would remain invisible. Jews don’t need to get their hands dirty in direct action if they can harness and direct the rage that is already there. Take Antifa and BLM. Most Antifa losers aren’t Jewish, though there are Jewish handlers. And BLM is mostly black thugs. What matters is Jews know there’s a good deal of demento-radical white rage and black rage. They are always there, just beneath the surface. When useful, as in 2020, Jews could unleash and encourage such rage by using the media to hype certain ‘social justice’ issues(like about George Fentanyl Floyd) and ordering the police & courts to be lenient with black thugs and white radicals. And there may have been some dirty tricks involved in Jan. 6 event as well. Darren Beattie and Tucker Carlson raised questions as to whether FBI used agents and informants to encourage violence among the protesters, making it all the easier for the Democrats to label the protests an ‘insurrection’. And of course, the Democratic Party is just a puppet show of the Jews.

    Consider the game of curling: https://infogalactic.com/info/Curling

    The stone follows a certain trajectory but the players use brooms to subtly alter its speed and direction. It’s most likely the Jews ‘curled’ Muslim rage toward certain targets in America. And only a handful of Jews need to have been involved in key places. The thing was to guide the Muslims into attacking NY & DC and then to ease US defenses against foreign threats. It suggests the operation began under Billy Boy Clinton and came to fruition under Bush II(and would have happened with Gore-as-president as well). While certain intelligence officers did notice odd movements of Muslims in the US, those at the top refused or ‘failed’ to connect the dots. Indeed, the politicization of national security can be seen in domestic politics. When Jan 6. happened, the government took swift action, rounded up the trespassers, erected forbidding fences and barriers, and stationed tens of thousands of troops in the Capitol. But when BLM riots were raging in the summer, the government and the military did precious little. They were out to make Donald Trump look bad as a coward hiding in the bunker. If anything, the officials painted BLM slogans all over DC streets even as the thugs went on burning, looting, and attacking people. The military refused to take action to defend cities from the mob(and even blue city bourgeoisie tolerated the mayhem just to hurt Trump and keep blacks in the Democratic corner). All across America, the state did almost nothing to protect property from BLM and Antifa mobs who were called ‘mostly peaceful protesters’ by the Jew-run media working in cahoots with the Deep State and its thug-goons.
    Contrast that to state and media reaction to the Charlottesville Protest by the Alt Right. Though Alt Right acted in accordance to the law, the state used emergency power to shut down the event with brute police force. If anything, the police drove the Alt Right guys into Antifa mobs who far outnumbered Richard Spencer and his gang. And the media spun the whole event as ‘Nazis got violent’. So, law-and-order and matters of security are totally politicized. If this is true in regards to US citizens, then it’s surely the case with foreign entities as well. To ensure that 9/11 attacks would happen, key Jews in the deep state most likely goaded others to lower the guard or focus on other matters as distraction. National Security has come to be a toy of Jews. Currently, Texas borders are being inundated by illegal invaders, but the Jewish-controlled Biden administration does NOTHING; if anything, the Jews are doing everything to encourage More Invasion. All this suggests that Jewish Power had all the tricks up its sleeve in 2001 to ensure that the terrorists passed through the obstacles; they had wind behind their backs but didn’t know it.
    One thing for sure, Israelis and Jewish globalists have been carrying out all sorts of operations in the US, but NOTHING was done about it. It’s well understood in the Deep State that if you blow the whistle on nefarious Jewish/Zionist activity, you will be fired or demoted by your superiors who cuck to Jews. So, Jews go on with their activities, and on the occasion they do get caught, they know they’ll be bailed out by fellow Jews or cucks who serve Jews and be set free and fly back to Israel to hero’s welcome. If Jews can pull off Jeffrey Epstein and Jonathan Pollard, what can’t they pull off? They could pull off WMD lies, Russia Collusion Hoax, Mostly Peaceful Protests nonsense, Covid Hysteria, and Election Rigging. The evidence keeps mounting on the nature of Jewish Evil, and in retrospect it shouldn’t surprise ANYONE that Jews could have done 9/11. Of course, they didn’t dirty their own hands as there were more than enough Muslim dummies who could be played and manipulated.

    Muslim killers were easy to find as they’re dime-a-dozen in the Middle East. Their counterpart in the West are white Christian soldiers in the US military. What do Muslim Jihadists and white Christian Soldiers have in common? They are relatively dim and stupid. Unable to win success with wit and intelligence, they cling to guns or lob bombs. So, there are always lots of dumb Muslims and dumb Christians for Jews to play with. Jihadists vs Crusaders, with Jews as the only winners. Have goyim fight goyim. Goad Muslims into attacking the West, and then goad white Christians to fight War of the Worlds, and then, bring over Muslim ‘refugees’ to the West and tell them that ‘Liberal’ Jews are their friends against those ‘Islamophobic’ white supremacist Christ-tards. In this sense, there isn’t much difference between the idiot Muslim terrorist and the idiot Christian soldier-imperialist. Especially as white goy elites now cuck to Jews, white soldiers are essentially tools of Zion. As for the Saudi connection in the 9/11 attacks, Jews probably wanted it this way. Saudi elites were unwittingly encouraged to fund Saudi operatives in the West. They probably didn’t know they were funding terrorists targeting the US. And when 9/11 happened, Saudi Arabia had no choice but to be 100% onboard with supporting the US because the hijackers were mostly of Saudi origin and even received money from the Royals. It was the ONLY WaY Saudi elites could prove their ‘innocence’. Indeed, how ironic that Saudis, though so often accused of having harbored and funded the terrorists of 9/11, have been the closest allies of the US and Israel in the so-called ‘War on Terror’. It’s so surreal.

    “Muslims did 9/11” is like “Hornets attacked your house”. Suppose there’s a hornet’s nest far removed from your house. So, hornets hardly pose a threat to you and your family. But suppose I live closer to the nest and want it destroyed, especially as I messed with it a bunch of times. But I don’t want to get stung and hurt. So, I goad one of your kids to throw a stone at the nest while I run inside my house. Angry, the hornets attack your kid and follow him to your house and and then attack your family, which is unawares that the hornets had been roused. Then, I call you up and say, “You see, them hornets are really nasty, and something must be done about them”, and I insist it’s a matter of your pride and dignity to fight this War on Hornets. So, while the hornets are destroyed(and you get stung badly in the destruction), I look outside my window at the melee from and laugh.
    The thing is the Muslim hornets wouldn’t have been a threat to anyone outside the Middle East and North Africa if they hadn’t been provoked so often by the US under Jewish pressure. Ultimately, however, the problem was less that Jews played with dumb Muslims than they played with idiot whites. Whatever Jews did to encourage Muslims to attack the West, they certainly succeeded much more in making the West mess with the Arab/Muslim World, thereby convincing plenty of young Arab/Muslim men that it’d be glorious to join the Jihad.

    Jews know the trick is not so much in doing something as making the other side doing something. It’s like the game of chess. You move your pieces to elicit responses from the opponent. You lure him into making a big bold move that proves fatal. You set the trap and wait for the opponent to fall into it. So, Jews never needed to do 9/11 directly. They only needed move certain pieces and to set the trap and let Muslims make the bold move, only to be checkmated in turn. The fact that Israeli operatives were closely tracking the Muslim terrorists suggests they weren’t so much on their trail but removing the obstacles in their path. Thus, Jews were leading than following the terrorists(who, being dumb, didn’t know the mission was being made easier for them by Jews who were setting a trap). Whatever really happened with the assassinations of JFK and RFK, it’s more than possible and even plausible that a lone killer did it. Any determined person can kill someone important. But because 9/11 plot was so elaborate and involved multiple actors, it’s hard to believe it went so undetected and was fulfilled to near-perfection.

    Within Jewish Power, they could be the dark-cabal alongside the light-cabal. While the light cabal also works for Jewish Power, it doesn’t have the stomach and balls to think up something like 9/11. But, when push comes to shove and were such an event take place, the light-cabal will go along with the dark-cabal. It’s like how Michael keeps Tom Hagen out of certain affairs in THE GODFATHER movies. Michael senses Hagen is more a ‘business’ type, rational and cautious, moderate by gangster standards. He’s not a wartime consiglieri. And so, Hagen has to be kept out of certain plans. Likewise, there could be a cabal within the cabal among Jews. The dark cabal. It is made up of ultra-Zionists who are willing to do ANYTHING to get their way, and they have no qualms about the what or the how. 9/11 was likely hatched by the dark cabal, but once it was done, the light cabal may have felt a bit sick and queasy but believed it had no choice but to go along as, all said and done, it too is about Jewish Power uber alles. It’s like the National Socialists had moderates and the radicals. Though the moderates didn’t want war and genocide, they went along when the radicals pushed events to the breaking point. And of course, when Tom Hagen is finally told of what’s what, he goes along.

    The light cabal Jews are probably anxious and even frightened of the dark cabal. But, they go along because they are all part of the Tribe. Also, the dark cabal has the boldness that the light cabal lacks. It’s like the ‘good respectable Jew’ in CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS relies on the ‘bad gangster Jew’ to do what’s gotta be done. Also, as the fate of the light cabal and dark cabal are so closely entwined, there is no way the light cabal can survive if the dark cabal falls. It’s like moderate Nazis had to support the dark Nazis. It’s like Henry Hill, though moderate by mafia standards, must play along with the darker figures of Jimmy and Tommy in GOODFELLAS. Though less psychotic, he too is part of the crew. And light cabal Jews have relied too much on dark cabal Jews over the years. They’ve been joined at the hip. So, even though Neo-Lib Jews will make some noises about bad boy Neocon behavior, they will never expose the full extent of Neocon nuttery. It’s like Paulie admits Tommy is a bad kid but takes umbrage(from a civilian) at the notion that he be killed.

    In the past, Woody Allen had a tendency to present Jews as harmless schlemiels while hoodlum killers were Italians, but in CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS and CAFE SOCIETY, he showed the dark underbelly of Jewish Power. Neocons, ex-Trotskyites who act like gangsters, are the Tough Jews of the Cabal. And people like Jennifer Rubin are Jewish molls.

    According to Jewish Moral Logic, Good White People should shun and shame any white person who mutters, “It’s Okay to be White”, but Good Jews must close ranks with Rogue Jews who dare pull something like 9/11, along with BLM riots, election rigging, Covid hysteria, and New Cold Wars with whatever nation in the cross-hairs of Jews at the moment. George Soros is obviously a total scumbag, and so is Paul Singer, but they got the backs of so-called Good Jews. Indeed, a so-called Liberal Jew is more likely to cover for the late Sheldon Adelson who said Iran should be nuked than a white guy, libby or conzo, is likely to do anything for a fellow white guy in need.
    One thing for sure, the quality of any discourse relies on what is allowed to be questioned. If certain questions are off the table, entire areas remain ‘redacted’ and out-of-reach. It’s like the true history of Maoism cannot be known in China because certain questions about Mao are not allowed. Even critics of Maoism must begin with the premise that Mao was a great man, a godlike figure. Therefore, while aspects of his rule can be addressed critically, fundamental questions about Maoism cannot be questioned. In the West, Jews not only control the gods but are worshiped as gods, and that means certain questions about Jewish Power and Jewish Evil cannot be questioned. Indeed, while goyim can be thought of as good or evil, Jews must only be thought of as good. While Jews will concede there are bad individual Jews, Jews as a people or a power can never ever be evil. But, one could say Germans, Iranians, Russians, or Chinese as a people can be evil. As for whites, it’s now controversial to argue that they can be good as a people. No, according to Jews, whites can be good as individuals but never as a people. ‘Whiteness’ itself is deemed an evil notion, and whites as a collective must atone for their special crimes against humanity… mainly by cucking to Jewish supremacism and carrying out the orders of Jewish gangsters. In a perverse twist of fate, white redemption comes by way of blind obedience to Jewish supremacist evil. In the West, we can’t raise questions about possible Jewish Evil, and we can’t ponder if whites, as a collective, have been a force of good for humanity. Given these rules, the most important questions about 9/11 cannot be questioned in the West, no more than Chinese can ask honest questions about Maoism and its impact on national history. But, those in the alternative media spaces should ask those questions.

    Now, there are two crucial questions as to how 9/11 could have been pulled off by Jewish Power. (1) What kind of people would have been capable of doing such a thing? (2) Who would have been the key players?

    (1) has to do with personal character. Surely, most people wouldn’t have the stomach to do something that extreme, indeed evil. And this goes for most Jews as well. An average Jew, if asked to take part in such a plot, would have been shocked and outraged. This is why the Nazis hid the truth about the Shoah from most Germans. Whatever most Germans felt about Jews, they didn’t want mass murder. And yet, there were radical-willed Germans willing to carry it out. And there were many who followed orders. The radical Germans, like Heinrich Himmler, were true believers. They were 100% committed to the racial ideology of Aryan supremacy and domination; they were 100% sure that Jews were the enemy and had to be dealt with in some radical manner. They were as committed to Nazism as the Jesuits to Catholicism. They were fanatics. And the SS trained men to be hardline, ruthless, and unquestioning. It was a matter not only of power and loyalty but spirituality. They were indoctrinated to believe in the purity and holiness of their cause. Then, there were other Germans who were less radical and extreme but prone to follow orders and/or didn’t have much of a choice. The likes of Adolph Eichmann and Albert Speer wouldn’t have cooked up mass slaughter of peoples on their own but, once the game was on, felt it was their duty to play along.
    It is hardly far-fetched to assume that an ideology akin to National Socialism has existed among Jews and, if anything, became even more radicalized with vengeful emotions about the Holocaust, the ultra-nationalist pride in the Zionist enterprise, and the hubris of having ousted the seemingly invincible Anglos from the top perch in the US, the lone superpower. If, over the years, white goy parents were raising their kids to be more deracinated, atomized, and self-critical(or even self-loathing), not least due to Jewish-controlled media and academia, Jewish parents and community were raising Jewish kids to be ever more tribal, race-conscious, resentful, proud, and even arrogant & contemptuous toward goyim: Whites, Christians, Russians, Arabs, Palestinians, Iranians, Muslims, and etc. And to be more demanding and intolerant. While not all Jews were raised this way, enough ended up with a mindset not unlike the Jewish version of the Nazi SS. A strange and perverse combination of extreme victimhood and boundless victor-hood. “No people suffered so much and for so long as we Jews, and the whole antisemitic world owes us, oh boo hoo hoo”, and “We Jews deserve to rule because we are the smartest, pushiest, chutzpahiest, and holiest. We got big brains, big balls, lotsa matso cunning, and the Covenant.” Such a mindset is bound to create a subset of Jews who are capable of doing ANYTHING for Jewish Power. Also, in such a culture, bigger-balled Jews get grudging respect from lesser-balled Jews who, though queasy about certain big-balled Jewish behavior, are also in awe. It’s the politics of balls or ballitics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL9aJZ4SqAc&ab_channel=SantosMiguelPrietoSu%C3%A1rez

    It’s like the mindset of the Italian-American community in GOODFELLAS. There’s a combination of tribal victimhood — “We Italians have to look out for one another because the system is rigged by the Anglos and Jews” — and pride of manhood expressed through criminality, usually directed towards non-Italians. In GOODFELLAS, there are four kinds of personalities, and this applies to Jewish Power as well: Super-big-balled, big-balled, gonadic, and shrimp-beady. Jimmy Conway and Tommy are super-big-balled. If they want something, they’ll take it. They’ll do anything anyhow to get whatever they want. Henry isn’t super-big-balled and on his own wouldn’t have done half the things he did alongside Jimmy and Tommy as ringleaders. Then, there are other hoodlums who are, at best, gonadic. Without tougher gangsters around, it’s likely they wouldn’t even have entered the life of crime. They are in that world as hangers-on, flunkies, and vultures. They are out for the crumbs, like the fat guy who bought a Cadillac for his wife soon after the Lufthanse Heist.

    Then, there are the shrimp-beady. These types aren’t criminals but do nothing to stand up against crime and, if anything, do favors for criminals when asked and if there’s a piece in it for themselves. It’s like Jimmy has plenty of civilian accomplices in distributing stolen loot. The gangsters got the balls and are looked up with both fear and respect(even awe) by the community. And plenty of Italian-Americans love the hoodlums in THE SOPRANOS. In a way, the Italian-American community is like a vulgar cartoon version of the Jewish community. Jews, being smarter, are savvier and more sophisticated in their ways. (Whereas most Italians who came to the US were bottom of the barrel, many Jewish immigrants were better educated on average than most Europeans.) Still, the balls-size factor is big among Jews as well. Jewish kids idolized tough Jewish gangsters. Jews admire tribesmen with chutzpah. Indeed, Jews tend to be far more offended by Nice Jews than by Nasty Jews, and this goes for both Jewish ‘liberals’ and ‘conservatives’. Indeed, one reason why Jonathan Rosenbaum favors Elaine May over Mike Nichols is he believes May remained uncompromisingly Jewish whereas Mike Nichols too often played it safe, as if he was too afraid to rock the boat in the WASP world.

    https://jonathanrosenbaum.net/2020/05/bridge-over-troubled-water-2/

    And consider the prominence of such Jews as Pauline Kael, Bob Dylan, Andrea Dworkin, Ayn Rand, Alan Dershowitz, Bill Maher, Howard Stern, Sarah Silverman, Rob Reiner, and the list goes on. A Jew accused of being ‘nice’ by fellow Jews is like a Negro being called an ‘oreo’ by fellow blacks. It’s not just about the brains(as among Asians) but the balls. And it doesn’t matter how ludicrous or outlandish Jewish big-balled behavior is. Indeed, more outlandish the better as it means the balls are truly big. Barbra Streisand as sex symbol? Outrageous, but she had the balls to insist she is hot stuff. Woody Allen made himself the romantic lead in his movies as well. Bob Dylan as a rock star? No way, but he made it happen. Andrea Dworkin a victim of sexual assault or the face of feminism? But she gained notoriety, not always a bad thing among Jews. Jewish big-balls antics would have been ludicrous but for the fact of their wit and humor to make it seem halfway feasible. Streisand’s shtick wouldn’t have worked without her talent as comedienne. And Dylan-as-star wouldn’t have worked without genuine musical imagination and lyrical talent. And we forget the ridiculousness of Woody Allen as romantic lead because he makes us laugh.

    So, what you have among Jews is the pride of identity, hostility & resentment toward others(for reasons of historical revenge, spirituality of chosen-ness, and contempt), and hubris of being the rulers of the lone superpower. It is a recipe for a perverse kind of supremacism. One that isn’t only racially supremacist but morally self-righteous. A pathological combination of victimology and victorology, and indeed they feed one another because the greater one’s self-esteem, greater one’s sense of aggrievement. It’s like blacks feel so oppressed because they see themselves as superior(especially in sports and fighting) and find it intolerable that slow wussy whitey have more than they do. Precisely because Jews regard themselves as so superior, they find antisemitism especially intolerable because it’s about inferior goyim pushing superior Jews around. This is why the cult of Shoah is really tribal supremacism wrapped in rhetoric of anti-supremacism. Ostensibly, it’s a warning against what supremacism can do: The Aryan persecution and mass killing of Jews. But, Jewish rage is really about how they, the real superior race, was targeted by thick-skulled Germans.
    Granted, there is more to Jewish Consciousness, making their hostility even more problematic. Jews are fiercely competitive, and while they feel confident in their mental edge, they are deeply resentful that blacks beat them in sports and whites beat them in looks. So, Jews feel they must own and control blacks as athletes and music stars. Blacks are like horses in their stable, like the one owned by the Jewish Hollywood mogul Woltz in THE GODFATHER. Even as Jews resent blacks, they also flatter them as fellow victims of whites because Jewish Power really depends on white submission. To reinforce ‘white guilt’ that paralyzes white pride and agency, Jews elevate blacks as sacred victims. Also, by flattering blacks so profusely and giving them lots of money, Jews hope that blacks will overlook the fact that Jews played a key role in Western Imperialism and the slave trade. That Jews are resentful of white beauty is evident in their portnoic lusts for blonde shikses and in their promotion of jungle fever, whereby white beauty is destroyed by mixing with black genes, resulting in white mothers giving births to simian-looking babies. Jews are not only supremacist in their intellectual arrogance and contempt but feverish with inferiority-complex when it comes to athleticism and beauty. It’s all a recipe for a kind of political psychosis.

    While high intelligence is rather common among Jews, not all Jews got big balls. Some Jews are merely gonadic while some are shrimp-beady when it comes to ball size. So, naturally, they look to big-balled Jews. Big-balled Jews may be crazy at times, but they get things done. They create new spaces for other Jews to operate in. After all, intelligence without balls is like Japanese-Americans. Pretty smart and successful people but ZERO when it comes to tribal power.

    Given the essence of the Jewish mindset, it’s hardly surprising that the Jewish Community would produce a number of people with the combination of victimological self-righteousness, god complex, philosophical certitude, ruthless gangsterism, and con-man cunning. But then, Bolshevik Jews had attributes of both ideological purists and murderous gangsters. So, among Jews, there are certainly plenty of people with the character traits necessary to plan and execute something as crazy as 9/11. Such Jews are capable of ANYTHING for the Tribe. The ones with the biggest balls would have conceived of it, and those with lesser balls would have gone along, if only out of deference to Big Balls.

    The dark recesses of power in any system scour for and recruit people with certain character traits. They aren’t looking for mere intelligence and talent. After all, many smart people are moral, upright, and decent… or timid and anxious. They may have the aptitude necessary to work for elite intelligence services but not the requisite flexibility bordering on venality to toss principles to the winds and play dirty when necessary. CIA and even the FBI scout for respectable members of society who are capable of doing the most unrespectable things, ones so dirty that they must be kept secret. Now, the system may justify such actions on grounds that (1) it is an exceptional force for good in the world, and therefore, any means at its disposable are justifiable, or the ends of globalism justify all its means. The Deep State certainly felt this way about the Russia Collusion Hoax. It knew the whole thing was a lie but, as it was aimed against lowlife populist demagogue Donald Trump who denounced globalism, any means were deemed necessary to bring down the Bad Orange Man. Or the system may justify such actions on the basis that (2) the other side plays just as dirty or even worse. During the Cold War, many decent people thought they should tolerate the dirty tricks of the CIA because the KGB was even worse. So, if the CIA used dirty means to depose certain regimes, it was unfortunate but necessary because the Soviets might extend their influence and install their puppets or clients, like Fidel Castro. It’s the logic behind the movie MUNICH by Steven Spielberg and Tony Kushner, i.e. “Sure, the Israelis do terrible things, BUT the Arabs started it!” — never mind the Zionists displaced the Palestinians. The end result is organizations like the CIA manned by people with respectable credentials but who act like ruthless, venal, psychopathic gangsters. Or, perhaps those in the game of power become so wrapped up in the game of winning and losing that it’s no longer about right-and-wrong than us-and-them.

    Still, there is a difference between quasi-gangster organizations like the CIA & FBI and Jewish Power. CIA, FBI, and NSA are about national security, and ‘national’ is a rather vague term, especially in a multi-racial and multi-ethnic country like the US. What exactly is meant by ‘American’? When US was ruled by Anglo-Americans, national interest/security was defined by the WASPS. When Jews took over as the new elites, there was a new set of national interests. If Hindu-Americans were to take power in the US, they would get to define the nature of ‘national interests’. In other words, ‘national interests’ are always mutable in a multi-racial society. In contrast, Jewish Power was, is, and shall always be about Jews, the Tribe. Not only are Jews prominently embedded in all departments of the Deep State committed to ‘national interests’, Jews are allowed to operate as JEWS in the name of JEWISH and ZIONIST interests on American soil. No politician or operative in the US will be censured, demoted, or fired for saying Jewish interests and Zionism are as important to him or her as American Interests, which is another way of saying “American Interests = Serving Jewish Power”. Rudolf Hess once said, “Hitler is Germany, Germany is Hitler.” The American motto might as well be, “Israel is US, US is Israel” or “Jews are America, America is Jews.”

    So, we can pretty much agree that the Jewish Community has the attitude, culture, and agenda that could produce, shelter, supply, and protect the kind of people who could have plotted 9/11, just like the Italian-American community produced the kind of people who carried out the Lufthanse Heist in GOODFELLAS. Such types would have been harder to find in the Swedish-American community(though also involved was Morrie the Jew).

    Now, what would have been necessary to carry out the plot. Basically, Muslims had to hit NY and DC. Finding crazy Muslims wouldn’t have been difficult as there was plenty of Muslims willing to blow stuff up, themselves too in the bargain. The challenge was making the Muslims do it in the US and in spectacular fashion. The basement bombing of the WTC in the early 90s and overseas bombing of US embassies were proof that such weren’t sufficient to persuade most Americans into supporting War on Terror, aka Wars for Israel. No, something spectacular had to be done, one that topped Pearl Harbor in sheer fireworks. A hit on NY would garner much sympathy for Jews especially as New York is Jew York. A hit on Washington, especially the Pentagon building, would have made the attack military as well as commercial in character, i.e. even anti-globalists who didn’t care about dead globalist New Yorkers would have been outraged as patriots by what had been done to the Pentagon, the center of US military command. Also, as the Jews had long wanted to get rid of the World Trade Center that stood as an asbestos-filled White Elephant, what better way than by having Muslims blow it up? It’d be like killing two birds with one stone.

    But how would the Jews get the Muslims over to the US to carry out such an outrageous plan? Even with laxer security than usual, a plot that big would have been detected by numerous agents in the intelligence agencies. This is where Jews had to play the role of the leads. As the Muslim terrorists were under close surveillance by the Jews, Jews knew their every move. So, whatever the Muslims planned to do, Jews got there earlier and cleared the way for the Muslims. So, if Muslims planned to enter through A, Jews got there first and distracted people in A while the Muslims slipped in. Thus, not only Americans but Muslims got played, much like the woman in David Mamet’s HOUSE OF GAMES. Or like Warren Beatty’s character in PARALLAX VIEW. The player gets played.

    Once the way was cleared for Muslims, how could Jews rely on those amateurs to really pull it off? After all, we were told they had only the most basic knowledge of flying an airplane. What if Jews hid poison gas in the cockpit? The pilots would have been taken out, and then suppose the planes were operated by remote control toward the World Trade Centers? So, maybe it wasn’t so much the Muslims who flew the planes. The planes could have been operated via remote control by aerial experts working in the Israeli government. The notion that amateur-pilot Muslims swooped down and hit the Pentagon building is even harder to believe.
    Furthermore, could Jews be sure that the Twin Towers would fall if hit by planes? Perhaps. Even though the buildings were reinforced with lots of steel, airplanes of that size flying at that speed were bound to cause severe damage. A ping pong ball thrown at someone’s head hardly does anything but at sufficient speed can make the head explode. Still, Jews couldn’t have been sure that the buildings would fall. The Dancing Israelis are sure sign that Jews had fore-knowledge of events. That means they had to make sure that the buildings would fall if the planes failed to do the job. Could Jews have planted the structure with explosives beforehand? Or right after the crashes? The fall of Building 7 makes it all the more suspicious.

    As spectacular as 9/11 was(and even though it involved many more operatives than a lone actor, such as Lee Harvey Oswald or Sirhan Sirhan), it was nowhere as complex as Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor. The Japanese attack had to be a major naval operation. In contrast, 9/11 required only just enough people to hit two buildings in NY and one in DC. Thus, Jews could get a real bang for the buck by slipping in a bunch of Muslims to carry out the attacks. Of course, it would have been more complicated for Jews IF the Muslims weren’t really capable of flying the planes into buildings, in which case, Muslims were boarded on the planes that were really operated by remote control once the pilots were incapacitated with poison gas or some sleeping agent.

    Now, surely there are many people in government who suspect the Jewish Hand in all this. Why have they remained silent? Initially, it was because they all got excited and joined in the War on Terror. Thus, they too became complicit in the History as written by Jews. Another reason could be the ‘failure of imagination’. It’s been said US intelligence failed to imagine that Muslims could do such a thing. Yet, if imagination was tragically in short supply when it came to Muslim craziness, why can’t the same be said of Jewish craziness? Why must our imagination be limited to Arab/Muslim evil but not Jewish Evil? Perhaps, the real failure of imagination about 9/11 has been the refusal to ponder the Jewish role.

    Of course, in a nation where Jews control the deep state, media, academia, think tanks, and politicians(many of whom can be blackmailed like Senator Geary in THE GODFATHER PART 2), anyone who mentions the Jews will immediately be targeted and destroyed. Take the Code of Silence about Russian Collusion Hoax even though surely everyone in the Deep State knew it was total fake and orchestrated by Jews and their cuck-puppets. Besides, even if Jews did 9/11, the deep state had a great run with more funds, more wars, and more global power games. When push comes to shove, those in the deep state aren’t interested in justice or truth but in the power game. And as long as they get to play, they don’t care for what or for whom.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
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    , @Mevashir
    , @Skeptikal
  236. JLK says:
    @Sparkon

    There were gold vaults containing a fortune in gold bars and other riches that were located beneath WTC 4 and WTC 6, at the very least.

    I remember reading about that and thinking it was an interesting angle. Like the stories that the documents relating to the investigation of the missing 2.3 trillion at the Pentagon were located in WTC7.

    Hard to know if these stories are true or made up, so I tend to stick with the physics of the collapses and the geopolitical “whys.”

  237. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Odigo Says Workers Were Warned of Attack
    Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.5410231

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  238. Mevashir says:
    @Priss Factor

    Wow! What a post! I’m not sure why this comment of encyclopedic length is allowed to go through while my very much shorter comment was repeatedly censored. I guess Ron has mood swings like a woman during her period.

    [MORE]


    I recommend this book which strongly suggests that the Jews were always at the Pinnacle of the so-called “Italian” Mafia. Lansky points out that from the earliest years in the 20th century the Jews and the Italians collaborated against the Irish in organized crime. This also explains the long running enmity of the Mafia against the Kennedy family.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CXox9ANgt2xOtDXCRZeAA7tiG8Hh2rCg/view?usp=drivesdk
    This is a compilation of expert comments on anomalies in the 9/11 narrative.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fxBifK9bVqrJI83wZ0CtWVxR565XWN_w/view?usp=drivesdk
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1--nMUjQiNVG6EZiBTcO_oA34UTAPBKqM/view?usp=drivesdk
    These are two brief essays about the toxic teachings of Orthodox Jewish groups like Chabad that form the spiritual backbone of Jewish supremacism and antipathy to the non-Jewish and particularly Christian worlds.

    I am still studying your very lengthy comment. Thank you

  239. @anon

    What exactly was your point? Are you repeating what I had said or are you imagining something different? The story was that 2 Odigo employees in Israel, nowhere the WTC but on the other side of the ocean, received some off messages right before the attack. These messages said nothing about the WTC at all, but seemed to be written with the knowledge that an attack was going to take place. When the Israeli employees learned of the attack they immediately reported it to their higher-ups who then passed it on to the Israeli authorities who informed the FBI. Nobody in New York was ever given a single warning through Odigo. Is that what you were trying to point out? I can’t really make sense of what you meant to imply.

    • Agree: Mevashir
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    , @anon
  240. Some good stuff here. Some nutty stuff too.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  241. JLK says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Perhaps anon was providing the article to you as a cite supporting your previous post, which appears to have been accurate.

  242. Mevashir says:
    @Priss Factor

    I still haven’t gone through all of your lengthy comment, but it seems incredibly well written and perceptive. I think Ron should run it as a feature article rather than a comment.

    [MORE]

    When Jews say ‘America’, they really mean its utility to Jewish tribal-supremacism. Journals like ‘American Interest’ are essentially Zionist and Judeo-centric. Thus, Jewish-American history is not about Jews assimilating to generic Americanism defined by the Constitution but about Jews reshaping all American institutions, industries, icons, and idols to serve or at least complement Jewish Supremacist interests. In this, current America is indeed a Jewish gangster-fascist state…

    I don’t understand what you mean here. How does the Constitution define “generic Americanism”? The blessing and the curse of America is that it leaves such a definition completely vague and undefined. American society is like a free-for-all where success and power are up for grabs to those who are the most talented. There is no core identity in American society and for better or worse the Jews and to a lesser degree the Catholics have commandeered most of the critical institutions. The Jews have the financial and media power and the Catholics have many of the arms of government (SCOTUS, CIA etc).

    I have been watching a lot of clips of president Putin. He is so overwhelmingly impressive as a poised intelligent articulate and dignified world leader. I think he may be truly in a class of his own and American politicians don’t come up to his toenails. Listen at 4:55 into this clip to his comment about anti-Semitism. One of the interesting things about Putin is that he extends a lot of respect to Russian Jews and to Israel. But he appears to be able to keep them in their place and to stop them from undermining Russia’s identity as an Orthodox Christian society. This is something that American leadership are unable to do precisely because America’s ethnic religious and cultural identity is nebulous and completely up for grabs.

    It appears that the Jews are doing in America what they did in Weimar Germany, when they commandeered most of the economy and watched with unconcern as the rest of Germany spiraled into poverty and destitution. The German Jews were also notorious purveyors of vice, making Berlin into the most decadent city in Europe if not the world. And it is not necessary to comment on their parallel function in the United States:
    https://www.darkmoon.me/tag/jewish-takeover-of-germany/
    https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/the-sexual-decadence-of-weimar-germany/

    A prominent American Orthodox Rabbi even commented on this before Jewish community outrage forced him to remove the article from his website. But fortunately David Duke saved the information:
    https://davidduke.com/hitler-the-jews-and-rabbi-lapin/

  243. anon[815] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

    Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company’s management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI.

    “I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don’t know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don’t know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made,” said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya.
    https://www.haaretz.com/1.5410231

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  244. anon[815] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick McNally

    They did in Mexico .They got caught They got repatriated with no charge . In 2000 Feb, 5 Israelis were caught with Afghan identities on a plane from India to Bangladesh .They were intercepted in Kolakata airport false travel papers were exposed and Israel pressurized India to release them .Their plan was to attend a religious festival where millions come form all over the world.

  245. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Did Hitler ignore the warnings? There was no warning . Wolofwitz throughout his career from 1991 to 2001 in and out of office ignored the warnings . Not only that he pushed the other angles – Saddam involved in WTC 1993 attack and was intending to attack USA .He ignored the FBI warnings pre 911. His methodical laser focus on Saddam diverted the attention away from Al Quaida . had he not done so with Scooter, Luti,Feith Abrams, Rice and Rimsfield – we wouldn’t have 911 Instead a manhunt would have been launched against AlQuida and would have caught the fight trainees ,would have interrogated the suspects caught at the borders and would have led to massive airport screenings.

  246. @anon

    It appears to be the clumsy wording that may have confused you. There never was a prediction that “the attack would happen.” That’s just a misstatement by the Haaretz reporter:

    http://www.web.archive.org/web/20030201161145/atnewyork.com/news/article.php/8471_893851

    —–
    ..the IMs did not mention the World Trade Center specifically, or any other targets…

    “Without going into details, the message was most noteworthy due to the timing, not due to the substance of the ‘warning.’ It could easily be coincidence,” Diamandis said.
    —–

    The words which you’ve bolded from the Haaretz report are just a classic example of a reporting error. The reporter made it sound as if these 2 had received a prediction which mentioned the WTC when in fact they had not.

  247. @anon

    Are you talking about the events which occurred on October 10, 2001, in San Lazaro? You don’t see the difference between trying something a month later versus the idiotic notion that these Dancing Israelis were about to blow up the George Washington Bridge? Those suspects who were grabbed in San Lazaro had not done anything like the Dancing Israelis had done when they were watching the crash into the WTC. The incident in San Lazaro reads like what you would expect if agents had been sent somewhere to discretely plant something like a bomb but then got caught. The insane claim made by Gordon Duff that the Dancing Israelis were about to plant bombs on the George Washington Bridge is another matter altogether. If they had been on such an assignment then I can assure there would never have been any story about “dancing Israelis” heard of anywhere. They would simply have gone quietly to the George Washington Bridge and planted the explosives without doing anything to attract attention. Gordon Duff simply makes crap up on the fly.

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  248. @anon

    Al Qaeda is a pure CIA/Saud/Israeli/UK creation. To deny or ignore that reality renders your maunderings more than usually meaningless.

  249. @anon

    What do the Zionazis threaten to get their goons released? Economic warfare, perhaps. MOSSAD hits on local politicians?

  250. @Iris

    Silverstain is a close, personal, friend of Bibi Nuttyyahoo. Say nothing more.

  251. @anon

    I can readily agree that there were many warnings gathered by the FBI which, had they been followed up, would have prevented 911. This is part of what offsets the arguments about whether or not Israel could and should have done a better job of warning the US. There was an Israeli warning given in August 2001, but it was of a general kind. Did the Israelis already at that point possess hard specific information about what was planned, which they withheld? That can’t be determined from present information. It does seem likely that the 5 Dancing Israelis had obtained some more specific information by the morning of September 11, but it’s not clear how precise even their information was or (even more important) how much of it had traveled up to the top layers of Israeli command at taht point.

    But without a doubt if the Bush administration had just been aggressive about following the FBI leads then they could have stopped the whole thing without needing a single bit of extra info from the Mossad. Whether the Bush administration was hoping to allow some kind of terrorist attack with the hopes of using this to justify a war in Iraq is impossible to prove, but plausible. Of course if they were they probably did not anticipate close to 3000 lives being lost.

    Obviously the Reichstag fire did not claim any lives and is hence a much smaller event. Bur certainly Hitler had been hoping to provoke the Communists and Social Democrats into some kind of a confrontation. It’s not so much a matter of ignoring warnings about someone setting the Reichstag on fire as it is a matter of trying to provoke an action from political opponents. Hitler was definitely seeking to do this when he learned that the Reichstag had been set on fire. At that point he simply made what he could out of it by blaming it on Bulgarian Communists without a shred of evidence.

    Ironically, Hitler had been so confident of what he was doing that he didn’t even bother to manufacture a case against the Bulgarian defendants. The police and judiciary in the Weimar Republic had a long record of showing favoritism towards the Right-wing and being hostile towards the Left. If Hitler had carefully planned things in advance he could easily have selected a judge who would have rammed through a false conviction. Instead the trial of the Reichstag fire defendants became an opportunity to upstage Goering before the international public. This only happened because the whole thing was done off the cuff, not because Hitler lacked the power to make a fake trial go through.

    That is another obvious parallel with 911. There was no methodical attempt to blame it on Iraq. The attempts to charge Iraq with 911 have a very off the cuff form to them. If a methodical scheme had been planned to frame Iraq for 911 then it should have been easy for the CIA or Mossad or whoever to gin up just a few documents indicating some type of communication with Iraqis by the 911 terrorists. It wouldn’t have to be anything so dramatic as a fake letter from Saddam Hussein. But just set up a few messages sent to the terrorists which appear to be of Iraqi origin and use these to incriminate Saddam. Nothing like this was ever even attempted. The whole effort to blame Saddam just seems to have been done on the fly without any preparation, much like the attempt to blame the Communist International for the Reichstag fire.

  252. Robjil says:

    attention away from Al Quaida

    This Al Qaeda is a Israel/US creation. It is a common word for going to toilet in the Arabic language.

    http://americangoy.blogspot.com/2008/01/al-kaida-means-toilet-and-other-fun.html

    “Qa’ada” is the infinitive of the verb “to sit”. “Ma-Qa’ad” is a chair. “Al-Qaeda” is the base or fundament of something. “Ana raicha Al Qaeda” is colloquial for “I’m going to the toilet”. A very common and widespread use of the word “Al-Qaeda” in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl.

    The toilet joke continues with the new Israel/US pet called Isis.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/i-cleaned-toilets-while-in-isis-kalyan-youth-areeb-majeed-tells-nia/articleshow/45328623.cms

    Majeed also disclosed how he was completely sidelined by the terror group as he had been asked to carry out menial tasks like cleaning toilets or providing water to those on the battlefield, instead of being pushed into the warzone.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3673885/Accused-ISIS-recruiter-Hamdi-Alqudsi-cancelled-trip-Syria-no-toilet-paper.html

    In the messages the men revealed they slept on spongy mattresses, used dirty toilets, had no toilet paper and used buckets of water to wash instead of showers, reported The Daily Telegraph.

    https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/jakarta-toilet-bomber-demanded-100-bitcoins-inspired-by-isis/

    According to local media reports, Leopard Wisnu Kumala was allegedly responsible for the bombing last week that injured one person in the Alam Sutera Mall in Tangerang. He allegedly planted the bomb in a toilet, which exploded at around noon on Wednesday.

    https://www.contractormag.com/plumbing/article/20880324/five-men-whipped-by-isis-for-using-flush-toilets

    Not everyone has it as good as we do here in the U.S. A recent story from AWD News serves as a horrifying reminder of this, as a Mosul source told the website that ISIS fighters whipped five men for using a flush toilet in their homes instead of squat toilets.

  253. @Iris

    Coincidences like this are interesting, but don’t prove much either way.

    On October 5, 1939, members of the Polish Army planned to detonate hidden explosives during Hitler’s victory parade in Warsaw. 500 kg of TNT were placed in a ditch to be detonated. At the last moment the parade was diverted. On November 8, 1939, Johann Georg Elser placed a time-bomb in Munich which was supposed to kill Hitler at the commemoration of the Beer Hall Putsch of 1923. Hitler left early and the bomb exploded. On July 20, 1944, a briefcase with a bomb was placed under a table near Hitler. Colonel Heinz Brandt, standing next to Hitler, pushed the briefcase aside with his foot. When the bomb exploded Brandt lost his leg and was killed, but Hitler was saved.

    All of these were just lucky (from Hitler’s point of view) coincidences which each time saved Hitler’s life. That doesn’t mean that Silverstein wasn’t part of a conspiracy to blow up the WTC. But coincidences of this type are not real evidence.

  254. Seems that Mossad/JIDF/sayanim still use the tried and tested method of posting something innocuous then another team-member (or maybe the same person using a different alias) will answer, “leveraging” that post to prove Israel’s total innocence, good-will and indeed pro-active stance on “fighting terror”.*

    Usually in this ploy there are references to Adolf Hitler and/or the holobiz, no matter what the topic under discussion may be.

    * For some small detail of this zionist thirst for righteousness, see the story of Zekaria Zubeida and the outline of their beastiality in Palestine elsewhere on UR.

    • Agree: Iris
  255. Skeptikal says:
    @Priss Factor

    I haven’t gotten through all of this. But had to stop here and comment.
    Re “And Jews couldn’t rely on the law for protection since they too were operating in the dark. But if vice industries were made respectable — “Desert Inn has heart”, Las Vegas as the Christmas Place to Be —” Interesting that you bring up Las Vegas, gambling, and Jewish claws in real estate on the West Coast and the deserts.

    You cite a lot of movies, but a large portion of the Jewish playbook for controlling the interface between the illegal Underworld and the “legal” Overworld (legal profession; justice; local and ultimately municipal, state, and national govt) with the goal of making millions on real estate and legal gambling and also gaining control of Hollywood and relevant unions is laid out in documented and readable detail by Gus Russo,
    Supermob: How Sidney Korshak and His Criminal Associates Became America’s Hidden Power Brokers, by Gus Russo (2006)

    The Outfit: The Role of Chicago’s Underworld in the Shaping of Modern America, by Gus Russo (2003)

    Please do read both of these. Feature films are interesting, and most of us have seen them. And the Corleone series is, I believe, based on the work of an Italian writer . .. can’t recall name. I read his book aboutthe Mafia before Puzo publishe The Godfather. But the filmss are not documentaries.

    • Thanks: Weaver
  256. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris Moore

    Beware the Synagogue of satan,
    Revelation 2:9 and 3:9
    John 8 and 8:44
    They are not gods chosen..

  257. HbutnotG says:
    @Uncle Jon

    Someone claims they saw someone throw something at Bldg7 from the book suppositury across the street just before it came down.

  258. jsm says:
    @Mevashir

    Interesting comment. Still, Mevashir, I fear you give them too much credit. All the CZs I’ve met — and I’ve met a lot — are, quite simply, too dim to “get it,” other than their preacher told them the Bible says God will bless those who bless Israel and curse anyone who doesn’t, therefore “Stand With Israel.” Their thinking skills extend only so far as to say, “The Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it.”

    So that, coupled with Hal Lindsay’s claim that so long as the political entity named Israel continues to have a spot on the world map, it means Jesus is coming back Any Day Now — which means the CZs get to avoid all that tedious mucking about dying and stuff — is enough for them to stick fingers in ears LALALALA when you try to point out the in-your-face Jewish perfidy..

    Their stubborn willful ignorance is breathtaking.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  259. Mevashir says:
    @jsm

    Reposting as Reply to your comment #268:

    [MORE]

    Interesting comment. Still, Mevashir, I fear you give them too much credit. All the CZs I’ve met — and I’ve met a lot — are, quite simply, too dim to “get it,” other than their preacher told them the Bible says God will bless those who bless Israel and curse anyone who doesn’t, therefore “Stand With Israel.” Their thinking skills extend only so far as to say, “The Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it.”

    So that, coupled with Hal Lindsay’s claim that so long as the political entity named Israel continues to have a spot on the world map, it means Jesus is coming back Any Day Now — which means the CZs get to avoid all that tedious mucking about dying and stuff — is enough for them to stick fingers in ears LALALALA when you try to point out the in-your-face Jewish perfidy..

    Their stubborn willful ignorance is breathtaking.

    You understand them all too well! In the late 1990s I was living in Jerusalem and still practicing Orthodox Judaism. I came across a large group of American Christian tourists waiting outside the Jerusalem Convention Center for their buses to whisk them away on another leg of their fantasy island trip. I went up to one man and asked him who they were and he explained, then he asked me how I liked living in Israel. I decided to be honest and told him that, while it’s a great place for tourists to visit, for those of us who live here it’s pretty awful: terrible poverty, constant stress and strife between different Jewish groups, threats of terrorism and war, hateful rhetoric against non-Jews of all sorts, brutality against the Palestinian natives, etc. He smiled, put his hand on my shoulder, and said: “Son, what you’re doing here is so important for the rest of us, so keep up the good struggle.” And I walked away thinking that Israel could never in a million years find more loyal allies.

    If Israel were smart they would offer some sort of quasi-citizenship to the CZs, because ideologically they are much more fanatically committed to Zionism than the Jews are. It took me a long time to realize that Israel doesn’t want too large a population. It wants to set itself up like a luxury Jewish enclave in the ME, like a Boca Raton on the Mediterranean, with lots of tribute flowing into it from all over the world, exactly as written in Isaiah 60:4-6:

    https://biblehub.com/isaiah/60-5.htm
    Future Glory for Zion
    …4Lift up your eyes and look around: They all gather and come to you; your sons will come from afar, and your daughters will be carried on the arm. 5Then you will look and be radiant, and your heart will tremble and swell with joy, because the riches of the sea will be brought to you, and the wealth of the nations will come to you. 6Caravans of camels will cover your land, young camels of Midian and Ephah, and all from Sheba will come, bearing gold and frankincense and proclaiming the praises of the LORD.…

    [Note that Christians try to spiritualize this pecuniary vision by attributing it to the Wise Men bearing gifts of gold frankincense and myrrh for the infant Jesus. But the Zionists and CZs take it literally it seems.]

    Israel is a snobbish elitist place even among Jews. Housing prices are sky high and only the most wealthy can afford to live there. It offers nothing to middle class Jews around the world except a mistaken sense of pride and hubris. Increasingly Jewish youth aren’t buying into that narrative.

    The ultra-Orthodox, who soon will comprise 40% of the Israeli population, are Luddites who live mired in poverty and rely on handouts from the government that secular Israelis increasingly resent. I predict soon enough Congress will be asked to fund these groups for humanitarian reasons.

    The CZs are to Israel as Catholics are to the Vatican: a totally loyal mass of supporters incapable of critical thinking about the golden calf they so love and venerate. As proof a few years ago I was telling a Christian friend about 9/11 Truth evidence. He listened patiently then sighed and said: “Look, I don’t really believe any of these claims. But even if they were true, it would just mean that America is a wicked society deserving of God’s judgment and He used his Chosen People to deliver it to us.”

    Ultimately this is a giant spiritual battle, which is why secularists like Alison Wier and Gilad Atzmon, no matter how good their intentions, cannot make a genuine difference in the situation.

    See this article from Cambridge:
    A BIBLICAL MYTH AT THE ORIGINS OF SMITH’S THE WEALTH OF NATIONS
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/502898FA3134D3F2C34AB571BA1C70AE/S1053837216000286a.pdf/div-class-title-a-biblical-myth-at-the-origins-of-smith-s-span-class-italic-the-wealth-of-nations-span-div.pdf

    See these comments from a different Unz article:
    https://www.unz.com/article/the-jewish-origins-of-american-legal-pluralism/#comment-4919276
    https://www.unz.com/article/the-jewish-origins-of-american-legal-pluralism/#comment-4919062

  260. @anon

    All the buttons that say SUBMIT used to say ENTER. Before 9/11.

  261. @Patrick McNally

    ‘…Gordon Duff simply makes crap up on the fly.’

    Rings a bell, doesn’t it? Got a source for that Solzhenitsyn quote yet?

  262. Raches says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen

    Israel had no love for Saddam Hussein, who lobbed a few scud missiles at them during the Gulf War, in a futile attempt to provoke a retaliation that would alienate Bush’s Arab allies, but he wasn’t much of a threat or focus in Israel twenty years ago.

    At the time of the 2003 Iraq War, I was a Zionist.  I read Israeli English-language newspapers online daily, and my social circle largely consisted of Israelis.  I recall that Saddam was sometimes called “Haman”—anyone who knows Jewish culture should know what that means; for everyone else:  Hitler is also called “Haman”, among other Jewish epithets.  It is an allegorical reference to the goy villain in the Purim myth, an enemy of the Jews who winds up being killed by the Jews.  I also recall some explicit comparisons of Saddam to Hitler.

    Saddam was well-known for his overt support of the Palestinians, and he was widely perceived as a champion of their cause.  (Such a beleaguered people does need champions!)  His principal antagonists in America were the “neocons”—a euphemism for Jews and Christian Zionists in hock to AIPAC.  Their principal complaint:  His enmity towards Israel.  They were upset that he was not overthrown in 1991; perspicacious observers in the 1990s, pre-9/11, predicted that Jewish agitation would cause another American invasion of Iraq, sooner or later.  Anyone who is not too young should be able to remember this from contemporaneous observations.

    Your allegation that Israelis didn’t “focus” on Saddam is so far detached from reality, I do not know how you can even believe it, unless you are significantly under the age of thirty.

    On the other hand, I am not surprised to see you say this.  I found your comment here when examining your comment history, after in a comment on my article on why Germans are hated, you essentially did putatively Gentile Holohoaxing about “the Nazis’ genocide of millions of untermenschen” as “German in character”; and you said this, by way of your agreement with an anti-German screed by a Christian Zionist who is so whacked out for Jesus, he claims that George Soros is a Muslim (!).

    At best, you are extraordinarily gullible in your swallowing and regurgitation of Jewish lie-propaganda. ®

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