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Tulsi Gabbard is one brave Congresswoman. She has challenged her party and the president saying that it’s time for Washington to halt its “illegal, counter-productive war to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad. I don’t think Assad should be removed. If Assad is removed and overthrown, ISIS, al Qaeda, Al Nustra, these Islamic extremist groups will walk straight in and take over all of Syria … they will be even stronger.”

Indeed, Washington’s senseless policy in Syria has been hanging out there like overripe fruit for quite some time with the mainstream media instead marching at lockstep to the tune being whistled by a large disengaged and unaccountable White House. Gabbard might go one step further to ask why Syria is the way it is in the first place since that would question Administration priorities under Democrats as well as Republicans, both of which have emphasized eliminating al-Assad for no conceivable reason that has anything to do with actual American interests.

Much has been made of Washington groupthink, which is the concept that when a meeting of senior staffers is held everyone will veer towards a point of view that is being espoused by whoever called the meeting, be they the president or one of the cabinet secretaries. It is also reflected in the output of foundations and think tanks, which rely on government access as well as funding from beneficiaries of the war economy. Current groupthink, rejected by Gabbard, is that removing al-Assad is somehow an essential precondition for any settlement of Syria’s torment.

Another prevalent groupthink that is sometimes linked to the Syria issue is that Russia’s Vladimir Putin is somehow a reincarnation of Josef Stalin and that today’s Russia is actually the Soviet Union, ready, willing and able to expand into Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Though considerable opposition to those two viewpoints can be noted in the alternative media it is not listened to in the White House.

Yet another kind of groupthink prevails within the government bureaucracies themselves, compounding the problem. From my own experience, analysts at CIA very often were scrupulous in their judgements on developments overseas but a funny thing would happen at Agency headquarters as information made its way from the ground floor up to the seventh floor where the political appointee mandarins would preside. It would become politicized and any viewpoints diametrically opposed to what prevailed at the consumer level in Congress and in the White House would be mitigated or even excised. Such is the nature of bureaucracy, which exists to support the status quo and inter alia requires a satisfied audience to prosper.

And the press fails to do its part to correct the listing ship. The rubbish that appears in the mainstream media under the rubric of “informed opinion” bears a large part of the blame because it continues to create a mythical magical kingdom in which Americans all wear white hats and go about slaying dragons because it is good for the whole wide world, even if those heathens don’t appreciate it. That is what Americans like to think about themselves apparently, all contrary evidence notwithstanding.

A piece on Syria that appeared in the Washington Post before Christmas exemplifies precisely what is wrong with the punditry that shapes the narrative that appears to drive the national consensus on what to do about terrorism and related issues. It is “Obama and Kerry’s wishful thinking on Syria,” by Frederic C. Hof, currently a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Rafik Hariri Center. Hof was an army officer who had extensive service in the Middle East. He is, somewhat uncharacteristically, an actual expert on the Arab world and speaks Arabic. He joined the State Department in 2009 after an interlude in the private sector as the President and CEO of AALC, limited company, an international business consulting and project finance firm formerly known as Armitage Associates LC. In 2012 Hof served as President Barack Obama’s Special Adviser for Transition in Syria.

Hof is a bright and highly competent guy whose professional life has been closely linked to the U.S. government version of reality, a reality in which Washington calls the shots and is empowered to “draw red lines.” Relative to the U.S., all other governments are either client states or adversaries who can be disregarded or bullied into compliance. In October he wrote: “With regard to ISIL, a professional ground combat component provided by regional powers is desperately needed to work with coalition aircraft to sweep this abomination from Syria and permit a governmental alternative to the Assad regime to take root inside Syria. With central and eastern Syria free of both the regime and ISIL, an all-Syrian national stabilization force can be built. Western desires for a negotiated end to the Syrian crisis would be based, under these circumstances, on more than a wish and a hope. The United States should neither seek nor shy away from confrontation with Russian forces in Syria. Moscow will not like it if its client’s ability to perform mass murder is impeded. Russia will not be pleased if ISIL, its false pretext for military intervention in Syria, is swept from the table. Ideally, Russia will not elect to escort regime aircraft on their mass homicide missions. And it would be difficult for even Russian President Vladimir Putin to articulate outrage if ISIL is crushed militarily. But if Russia seeks out armed confrontation with the United States in Syria, it would be a mistake for Washington to back down. People like Putin will push until they hit steel. And he will not stop in Syria.”

The op-ed is saying several things, which most likely reflect the Washington consensus on foreign policy. First, it advocates a U.S. leading role in Syria in support of a currently non-existent and unlikely to exist regional force to fight ISIS thereby creating an alternative government enabling the removal of al-Assad from power and winding up with a “Western desired” democracy. Second, it characterizes Russia as supporting “mass homicide” in Syria and urges the U.S. to confront it militarily if necessary as Moscow is intent on expansion. That means that Syria somehow has become a vital American interest, important enough to go to war with Russia.

Hof’s more recent foray in the Post makes a number of similar points. First, that the Syrian civil war cannot end as long as al-Assad remains in power is described as an “objective truth” that adversaries like Russia and Iran refuse to accept. Al-Assad is described as a “barrel bomber in chief.” Iran, in particular, should “grasp the chance to become a normal state.” Hof likens the Syrian, Iranian and Russian leadership to Hitler thirty years ago in that they are being given a pass by the West and avers that they “know that Assad is the single greatest obstacle to a united front against Islamic State.” Iran is motivated by propping up a client state while Russia is into the game desirous of “humiliating the United States by preserving Assad.” The op-ed goes on to claim that delaying action for thousands of Syrians will mean “people slaughtered, maimed, stampeded, starved, tortured and raped by Assad’s people” and reiterates the call for “professional ground forces…under U.S. command” to deal simultaneously with both al-Assad and ISIS.

Given all of the above, it is no wonder that many of us find American foreign and national security policy incomprehensible. First of all, by what Act of God does the United States have a Special Adviser for Transition in Syria? Why does that position even exist? How the White House react if the Chinese or Russians were to create a similar bureaucracy tasked with subverting the manifestly corrupt U.S. institutions and even arming “rebels” to do the job?

One suspects that antagonism towards Damascus is rooted in the fact that the United States government have been working hard in a neoconservative driven effort supported by Israel to subvert the Syrian regime ever since President George W. Bush signed the Syria Accountability Act in 2004. Al-Assad’s alleged use of chemical weapons on his own people is frequently cited as a justification for armed intervention, but there is considerable controversy over the incident at Ghouta in 2013, with many observers believing that the attack was staged “false flag” by the rebels possibly aided by the Turkish intelligence service to implicate the Syrian government. And it is easy to forget that before Syria under al-Assad became an enemy it was considered friendly, having participated in the U.S. led coalition that ousted Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991 and also having supported Washington’s counter-terrorism “rendition” program post-9/11.

It is simplistic to see everything as a problem created by the Syrian government, Russia and Iran, all of whom have been described as “adversaries” of the United States even though they are actively fighting ISIS. That label would be comforting if one were a reader of the Rupert Murdoch media but Tehran’s and Moscow’s desire to stabilize the Syrian government position as a prelude to negotiations for a settlement is not exactly wrongheaded, as Congresswoman Gabbard has noted. And any narrative’s thrust more-or-less depends on where one starts. To my mind the blame for the mess in Syria and Iraq coupled with the rise of ISIS should be put squarely where it belongs: at the White House under our two most recent presidents and their advisers. The rot began in 2003 when Iraq was invaded. At that time both Baghdad and Damascus were quiet, stable and terrorist free even if they were not democracies. Neither threatened the United States and neither threatens the U.S. to this day, which makes one wonder at why al-Assad has been elevated to enemy-in-chief status by the White House and media.

The inside the beltway dismissal of Iran and Russia is classic Washington groupthink. Iran may indeed not be a “normal” nation, but that just might be due to threats against it emanating from the United States and Israel since the foundation of the Islamic Republic in 1979. We are currently witnessing the U.S. Congress and Israel cranking up the pressure to defeat implementation of the nuclear program agreement recently signed with Tehran, an effort that suggests that no matter what it does or doesn’t do Iran will never be seen as normal or even acceptable by most of the powerbrokers in Washington.

And the denigration of Russia is another given, complete with the often heard but ridiculous claim that Moscow is out to “humiliate” the U.S., which often comes coupled with a reference to Hitler. Russia may have a government that is not to our liking but it has a serious and legitimate interest in preventing the spillover of Islamic insurgency into its own heavily Muslim southern federated states. Creating a cartoon image of Vladimir Putin as someone who has to be taught a lesson even though he has in fact been a largely realistic, restrained and rational player in his foreign policy, is not a serious argument. Stating that Russia is only interested in propping up a client and enabling mass murder is both sloppy and does not allow for other considerations that might actually be both sensible and legitimate while a willingness to confront major power Russia militarily over unimportant Syria is something closely akin to madness. And attributing all the mayhem in Syria to its government is similarly myopic in that it ignores the other players on the ground, to include groups supported by America’s nominal Arab and Turkish allies that the United States calls “terrorist.”

The apparent willingness among policy makers to put U.S. troops on the ground in Syria against both its government and ISIS flies against all reason given the poor track record of White House initiated military interventions over the past fifteen years. The creation of a “stabilization force” without any current Syrian government participation is laughable as even President Obama has conceded that the identification and deployment of “moderate rebels” is a bit of a fantasy. And Syria is not taking place in a vacuum. Afghanistan is rapidly sliding back under Taliban control, Iraq is chaotic and its closest friend is Iran while Libya is anarchical. Another intervention? No thanks.

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  1. What do you have against paragraphs?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  2. christian says:

    Paragraphs would make this easier to read.

  3. Gad, Philip.


    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  4. geokat62 says:

    Gabbard might go one step further to ask why Syria is the way it is in the first place since that would question Administration priorities…

    Not only Administrtion priorities but Congressional priorities as well. As Wesley Clark noted in 2007:

    “We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran”

    And who was responsible for dreaming up this game plan of taking out “seven countries in 5 years?” Why it was none other than the neocon/Israel firsters who were keen on remaking the ME by regime changing those countries deemed hostile to the Zionist project, to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle. It’s all laid out in PNAC’s A Clean Break and in the Oded Yinon Plan.

    If anyone is still doubtful that this is the case, one need only recall the words that were uttered by SOS Condi Rice back in 2006, when the Zionist Project was busy defending itself against that Goliath called Lebanon:

    “What we’re seeing here, in a sense, is the growing — the birth pangs of a new Middle East.”

    I wonder who wrote those words for her?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  5. @PiltdownMan

    technical problem – fixed!

    • Replies: @Kiza
  6. If the US were serious about fighting terrorism, it would have bombed Riyadh 15 years ago and pushed for regime change there.

  7. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Ashton Carter…the nuclear physicist…has already done a back of the envelope calculation and convinced himself that he in a bunker with Kenyan Foreigner DEAR LEADER BARACK THE MAGNIFICENT will survive a nuclear war with Conservative Orthodox Christian Russia..And when Ash and Dear Leader Barack emerge from concrete bunker they will have at least a billion year REICH Lording over the various cockroach species.

    A goodtime to start Nuclear WW3 is this comming Super Bowl Sunday..on the SABBATH….America is a Christian HERESY!!!!!

    • Replies: @Johann
  8. Johann says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Very true America is indeed a Christian heresy, the perpetual war machine right out of the Apocalypse.

  9. Kiza says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Yeah, Mr Giraldi is not to blame for the lack of paragraphs, it is a computer issue – the difference between New Line and Carriage Return with New Line, and their conversion into HTML “breaks”, that is new paragraphs. Anyway, what picky readers.

    With respect, I have commented on most of the issues which Mr Giraldi covers in this article already.

    Regarding how the good intelligence gets cooked (on the 7th floor) and why:

    Regarding the honorary title of Hitler which the State Department, US pundits, and the servile US presstitutes like giving to distinguished foreign statesmen:

    Regarding the likelihood of a direct military intervention by US in Syria:

    In summary, Mr Hof is dedicated to singularly promoting the point of view of his Ziocon masters, and to me this is the only sign of personal intelligence that Mr Giraldi mentions: Mr Hof knows who is buttering his bread as a military consultant. But, otherwise, Mr Hof appears to be on the same hallucinogens as his masters. One could laugh at his writing if it was not so delusionally dangerous. Scary.

    • Replies: @Realist
  10. Rehmat says:

    Mr. Giraldi – Tulsi Gabbard’s views are commendable about America’s illegal war in Syria. However, her knowledge about who’re running the anti-Assad war, are clouded by her Indian and Hindu background. Her father is an Indian Catholic padre and her mother a devout Hindu from India. Naturally, she sees Muslim terrorism under her bed all the times. For her, Hindu, Christian and Jewish terrorism doesn’t exist anywhere in the world.

    She is sees the western phony al-Qaeda, ISIS, al-Shabaab and other pro-Western thugs as “Islamists”, but BJP and other Hindutva fascists in India as no threat to non-Hindu religious minorities.

    Non-Muslim minorities have lived in peace in many Muslim nations in addition to Syria, such as, Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt, etc. On the other hand, Muslim minorities have long been persecuted not only in the western nations, but also in India, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, Israel, Thailand, Tanzania, Burma, etc.

    If al-Qaeda is indeed “Islamist”, why the anti-Muslim leaders like Sen. John McCain and the discredited Gen. David Petraeus want it to continue fighting against Assad and other anti-Israel ME leaders?

    • Replies: @greysquirrell
  11. Tom Welsh says:

    As always, Mr Giraldi makes a great deal of sense – but he draws back at the critical point. He writes that the US government seems set on: “…eliminating al-Assad for no conceivable reason that has anything to do with actual American interests”.

    If only that were true! Many writers have clearly explained how wealthy corporate interests – mostly American – wish to run oil and gas pipelines through Syria, and for that and other purposes would like to run the country as they wish. That is, without any interference from pesky Syrians or their government. It would be ideal, in fact, if there were no Syrian government at all. The country would then descend into chaos and anarchy, in which no one’s life or property would be safe – unless, like wealthy American corporations – they were able to bring in their own private mercenary armies to protect them, enforce their will, and punish anyone who resists them.

  12. Some additional thoughts from my blog;

    Assad assumed that if he cooperated with the Americans they would leave him alone, so he agreed to turn over all his chemical weapon stockpiles, which Syria safely maintained for decades as a deterrent to an Israeli attack. The USA sent a special team and ship that disposed of all Syrian chemical weapons. But the hostile rhetoric along with weapons and foreign fighters continued to flow to Syria, and the Obama team resumed chanting: “Assad Must Go! Meanwhile, thousands of Syrians died and millions were displaced while Assad was blamed for using his Army to protect Syria from these foreign funded Islamic fighters.
    Why did Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama cause massive death and destruction trying to oust Assad, and think that a loose collection of Islamic “moderates” could rule Syria? Every group of armed moderates our CIA sent into Syria immediately joined a larger Islamic terror group. The effort was a disastrous failure, yet continues. Why not help Assad restore order so that millions of Syrian refugees can return home? Luckily, Russia intervened to save Assad, but the USA was angry! Why? If NATO was truly interested in defending Europe, it would send troops to help Assad restore peace so Europe could ship their million unwanted Syrian refugees back home. Trump is the only presidential candidate who says Assad must stay. Bill O’Reilly asked why, and Trump responded: “Because I don’t’ want to run Syria, do you?”

  13. Avery says:

    {In a clear sign of frustration with the Kremlin, Hammond scolded Putin for paying lip service to a political process aimed at ending the civil war while also bombing opponents of Assad who the West hopes could shape Syria once Assad is gone.}

    Great news: filthy, anti-Christian warmongering Neocons are frustrated that their plans to destroy another viable, functioning state and cause ethnic cleansing and bloodshed like in Iraq, have been thwarted (… so far).

    The more the bloodless anti-Human slithering reptilian scum express frustration, the more we know that their throat-cutting cannibal puppets are being chopped to pieces by SAA and Russian AF.

    Go Syrian Arab Army. Go Russia.

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson, Ace
  14. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Midterm exam:

    The homosexual Narcissist Kenyan Foreigner administration is openly attempting to overthrow the sovereign government of Syria.

    Conservative Orthodox Christian Russia is committed to defending the Sovereign Government of Syria.

    The Russian Military is digging in deep in Syrian Soil…

    The US Military is digging in deep in Syrian Soil…

    Calculate the probability of a Russian Military and US Military violent collision in Syria..

    The calculate the probability of thermonuclear war after that first initial collision of the Russian and US Military…

    I can think of no more vile and repellant phrases than:”I support the Troops!!!!”…and “Thank you for your service” uttered by short-fat-cellulite-pudgies with rapidly expanding-shockwaves-of-cellulite through thick -farty-brown-coudoroy pants worn by wealthy chickenhawk sports talk how hosts on stations such as WFAN!!!

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @Anonymous
  15. To my mind the blame for the mess in Syria and Iraq coupled with the rise of ISIS should be put squarely where it belongs: at the White House under our two most recent presidents and their advisers. The rot began in 2003 when Iraq was invaded. At that time both Baghdad and Damascus were quiet, stable and terrorist free even if they were not democracies.

    Respectfully disagree.

    “Blame for the mess . . . belongs at the White House under ^ the George H W Bush administration . . . and all subsequent presidents and their advisors.”

    The “rot” did not begin in 2003 when Iraq was invaded, and in 2003 Baghdad was not stable, neither was it terrorist-free.

    Iraq was invaded by the Bush 41 administration. Following that onanistic rape, Iraq was subject to sanctions that resulted in the deaths of a million Iraqis, “half of them children,” as Hillary Mann Leverett persistently recites. Iraq was under a no-fly zone and was bombed frequently.

    That is, Iraqi citizens were terrorized by USA beginning with the George H W Bush administration.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  16. annamaria says:

    Mr. Hof is a wet-dream of Military Industrial Complex. He is the very antithesis of the honorable General Butler:
    “Throughout his distinguished career in the Marines, Smedley Darlington Butler demonstrated that true patriotism does not mean blind allegiance to government policies with which one does not agree. To Hell with war.”

  17. Like Iraq, Syria is held together only by a strongman. The Bush maladministration made the serious mistake of taking out the Baathist regime in Iraq and replacing it with less than nothing. The wise move would be to have taken out Saddam, handed the keys to the next guy in line with the statement “don’t make us come back.” Instead, they destroyed the glue that held the country together.

    The Neocons are trying to do the same thing in Syria.

    By the by, Russia is only nominally Orthodox.

    • Replies: @Avery
  18. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The US government’s obsession with Syria seems to be more and more irrational as time goes on. After the thumbnail biographical sketch of this Hof character I expected some well informed, reasoned writing. Instead it was the raving of a looney-tune. It shows how a person can have degrees, hold a series of responsible jobs and have credentials that look good on paper but yet be irresponsibly stupid or unhinged in other ways. Describing him as an “actual expert” is undercut by what he actually wrote which is shrill bombast, just propagandistic rubbish reminiscent of old style fascist or communist invective.
    Is there anybody in charge of US policy or is it all just drifting along, being pushed by various factions pursuing their own personal interests at the expense of the well-being of the American public? The humanitarian aspects of of causing millions of people on the other side of the world to die or become homeless, pauperized refugees never seems to be of any concern whatsoever. Here in the US a person can be sent to prison for wanton cruelty to animals yet at the same time policies are instituted that kill hundreds of thousands of people and yet Americans hardly blink an eye at this. American politicians can never make a speech without making threats against other countries; why is this?. I’m tired of all this constant drumbeat of war incitement meant to scare and hype-up the public. It can’t end well for us or for anyone else and yet here we go down that path.

    • Replies: @Avery
  19. The Iranian characterization of the Anglo/Zio Empire as the Great Satan is accurate. The High Poobahs of the “West” cannot be understood in any other way. They are not stupid. They are not in thrall to group think. They are soulless monsters and there will be no peace or security for anybody until they are removed from power.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @Ace
  20. Avery says:

    {The wise move would be to have taken out Saddam}

    The wiser move would be to stay home – unless attacked here – and not stick Uncle Sam’s nose in every corner of the world.

    {“Whenever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will be America’s heart, her benedictions and her prayers. But she does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the wellwisher to freedom and independence for all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She well knows that by once enlisting other banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extridition, in all wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom….She might become the dictress of the world but would no longer be ruler of her own spirit….Americans should not go abroad to slay dragons they do not understand in the name of spreading democracy.”} John Quincy Adams, as Secretary of State.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  21. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Some of you out there need to stop portraying Bernie Sanders as a peacenick..Has FEELTHEBERN ever condemned the narcissistic Kenyan Foreigner as a WAR CRIMINAL?

    Why haven’t the assets of Jew-Pure Israel been frozen?..Israel has at least 200 fucking nukes!!!.Why hasn’t peacenick Bernie Samders called for the freezing of Jew-Pure-Israel’s assests? Remember the USS Liberty!!!!!…Dancing Israeli Art Students on a NJ rooftop 9/11….Israel our friend!!!!!….or is it our fiend?

    Who stole nuke material from America?…Iran?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  22. Avery says:

    {Here in the US a person can be sent to prison for wanton cruelty to animals yet at the same time policies are instituted that kill hundreds of thousands of people and yet Americans hardly blink an eye at this.}

    Well said.

  23. @War for Blair Mountain

    You forgot to mention the single mother, lesbian, gay, trans-sexual-staffed United States military the faggy President from Kenya transformed the American fighting forces into. What’s Russia got to fear from the United States anyway?

    Seriously, how could you forget?

  24. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Wouldn’t it be funny if the Conservative Orthodox Christian Russian Military and the homosexual-pedophile-African-Mexican Gangbanger-Lesbian Feminist F-15 fighter pilot US Military had a direct collision in Syria 30 seconds from the Super-Bowl kickoff 6:36 Eastern Standard Time… would be day-glow-orange -Groovy Man!!!..right? America!!!!…America!!!! burning burning bright!!! All through the Orange Day Glow Night!!!!!….Ah shucks…America won’t get to see the Half-time Toyota Car Commercial featuring homosexual San Francisco Husband-Husband pedophiles raising kidnapped blue-eyed blond-hared-infant Russian Males showing the World American Family Values!!!!!

    And it will be the end of homo “WHAT A STUD” FANTASY FOOTBALL…DARN THOSE RUSSKIES!!!…Why couldn’t they just submit and OBEY US!!!!

    The situation in Syria is probably far more dangerous than anyone realizes. It could be triggered accidentally at this point in time…Who the F ordered this?

  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The analogy between Putin and Hitler becomes interesting, if you consider Hitler’s reason to go to war with Poland: the Danzig corridor. Putin may find himself in a similar situation with Kaliningrad, which is isolated from main Russia.

  26. RobinG says:

    Thank you, S2C, for bringing this up. I’ve commented to Phil on this before. When G.W. declared “mission accomplished” in 2003, he didn’t acknowledge that he’d defeated an army already rendered helpless by Daddy Bush and Bill Clinton who also decimated, impoverished, and depleted the Iraqi population.

    In 1991, in lieu of phony WMD, there were fake stories about babies thrown from incubators to incite the American populace to support the invasion. I remember the 1st or 2nd night of Desert Storm, Dan Rather had an analyst to comment — a retired expert of some sort (really sorry I don’t know his name). He explained how Iraq’s repeated appeals/complaints, that Kuwait was illegally pumping oil from Iraqi territory, had been ignored in the U.N. and how our ambassador had given Saddam the impression that the US would not interfere if he took matters into his own hands. Needless to say, this elderly gentleman was never seen on network TV again, with his story that didn’t fit the Deep State agenda. Can’t give the masses any doubts, can we?

    Now there’s general denial that H.W. laid a trap for Saddam. What Yinon Plan? You must be a conspiracy theorist! 🙂

  27. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Not everyone on WFAN is bad. Mike Francesa is excellent.

  28. RobinG says:

    Paragraphs? LOL, I was too happy reading to notice! Meanwhile, leave it to Gilad to toss out a little raw meat for everybody—-

    February 02, 2016 / Gilad Atzmon

    The Zionist UK Jewish Chronicle reported last weekend that Jewdas, a so-called ‘Left’ Jewish group, recently participated in an Anti-Fa march in Dover against ‘right wing extremists’ who oppose the entry of Syrian refugees into the Kingdom.

    In fact, many British humanists and ethically oriented beings agree that the UK should provide shelter to refugees from a battle zone, especially when it is Britain that made Iraq, Syria and the entire region into a battle zone. One could anticipate that ‘Left’ Jews would be at the forefront of a call to help Syrian and Iraqi refugees because Jewish ‘Leftists’ ought to know that the 2003 criminal war against Islam in particular and Arabs in general was an immoral Zio-con operation. The Jewdasses must know that it was Lord Levy and the Labour Friends Of Israel who were Tony Blair’s leading fundraisers when Britain was taken into that criminal war. They should certainly remember that Jewish Chronicle writers David Aaronovitch and Nick Cohen were the leading advocates for the war within British media.

    So it was not a surprise that Jewdas joined the Anti-Fa campaign for Syrian refugees. But astoundingly, none of the expected humanist concerns brought Jewdas to the streets of Dover. In fact, it was the other way around. Crude Jewish self-centric interests motivated Jewdas. Their spokesperson said:

    “We think it’s important that the Jewish community takes the threat of far-right violence seriously – a point we made at various stages last year when anti-Jewish demonstrations were taking place in London.”

    His statement is unambiguous. It wasn’t the plight of the refugees or any kind of acknowledgment of Jewish political complicity in the humanitarian disaster in the Middle East that brought Jewdas to the streets of Dover. Once again, it was Judeo-centrism at play. Jewdas joined the Anti Fa protest to defend their own Jewish tribal and racial interests. Their spokesman stated: “These (right wing) groups pose a clear threat to our (Jewish) community.”

    Bizarre, by expressing such views, the Jewdas spokesperson revealed that Jewdas has more in common with the ‘Rightwing extremists’ than with most immigration advocates or minority support groups.

    Yet, I admit that this news item left me a bit puzzled. On the one hand, Jewdas claims to care for minorities in Britain while they seem to lack even remote empathy towards indigenous English people who have been reduced into a minority in their own capital.

    I guess that within the Jewish political universe, the indigenous population is always an enemy, whether it is in Britain, Palestine or anywhere else. Maybe this helps explain why Jewish history is a chain of countless holocausts and pogroms.

  29. And we have this barking mad comment from a UK Tool of the Empire:
    “Putin is strengthening Isis in Syria, says UK foreign secretary ”

    There really does seem to be an endless supply of these fuckwits.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  30. Realist says:

    “Anyway, what picky readers.”

    Paragraphs are important to readability.

  31. Excuse me uttering an instant brain shower as the thought has occurred after reading more emanations on the fixed positions re Jews, Israel etc.

    How about someone do an analytic and imaginative piece treating strongly tribal Jews (very different from tribal Iraqis or Pakistanis of course – just a convenient way of indicating strong instinctive affiliation) as a political party in a global democracy the functioning and rules of which are even more idiosyncratic, fluid, contested and unreliable than in the sort-of democracy that the US boasts?

    In so far as one wants to treat the UN as legislature one has not just permanent Opposition but permanent minor party single issue status for Israel, a convenient blocking vote in the upper house which still has to be negotiated occasionally….. and so on.

    Before stamping on it would someone like to extend the figurative use of democratic political parties to analyse and predict the behaviour in question? Maybe even Mayor Daley and Tammany Hall could feature….

  32. “But she does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. ”

    She goes abroad to create monsters that must never be destroyed. Frederic Hof loves that smell of financial victory in his Washington mornings. It smells like the odor of freshly minted greenbacks… created by never won, never ending warmongering.

  33. KA says:

    Saddam was accused of living in a bubble . Aren’t Western power wielding ruthless corrupt murderous elite living in a simlar only larger and more complicated bubble?
    A long decay saves the empire from a hard fall. But a long process also destroys the chances of social scientific cultural recovery .
    Rome did not recover. Germany and Russia did . Last two survived because the citizen carried the seeds of recovery ,held the hopes high and didn’t give up.
    American citizen have offered their complete surrender to idiocies,megalomaniac hubris ,exhibited ,dismissive attitude to any opinion not coming from US,UK,or Israel , and visceral hatred to anybody labeled as enemy by the elite without any resistance or noise.

  34. @Avery

    The wisdom of your comment is abundantly clear. Quartermaster displays none of the required means for a wise move in his.

  35. @War for Blair Mountain

    I may be wrong but I think you may have conflated the events concerning the Israelis. As I recall the dancers were dancing in an apartment building car park after setting up a tripod and camera (fortuitously?) to capture the planes crashing into WTC 1 &2.

    The Israeli “art students” were a different and much larger group who were actually found to be living illegally (squatting) inside unoccupied offices within the Twin Towers themselves just prior to 9/11.

    Coincidentally (Coincidence theorists take note) there was a total power shutdown, the first in the entire history of the buildings, for “data cable upgrades” during the same period.

    Some people have raised the question whether or not there is a connection here to the installation of explosive thermite charges within the buildings which made them collapse in a manner that contradicts Newton’s Laws of Physics.

    • Replies: @Thirdeye
    , @Ace
  36. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:

    Coincidentally (Coincidence theorists take note) there was a total power shutdown, the first in the entire history of the buildings, for “data cable upgrades” during the same period.
    Some people have raised the question whether or not there is a connection here to the installation of explosive thermite charges within the buildings which made them collapse in a manner that contradicts Newton’s Laws of Physics.

    No, an explosives caused collapse doesn’t contradict Newton’s Laws. It contradicts an official conspiracy story, and corroborates Newton’s Laws of Physics.

  37. annamaria says:
    @Bill Jones

    But Mr. Hof is of course exceptional: he is the best prostitute MIC can buy.
    “Hof likens the Syrian, Iranian and Russian leadership to Hitler thirty years ago in that they are being given a pass by the West and avers that they “know that Assad is the single greatest obstacle to a united front against Islamic State.” … The op-ed goes on to claim that delaying action for thousands of Syrians will mean “people slaughtered, maimed, stampeded, starved, tortured and raped by Assad’s people” and reiterates the call for “professional ground forces…under U.S. command” to deal simultaneously with both al-Assad and ISIS.”
    Does not Mr. How know what exactly was an major impetus for creation of ISIS? Has he heard about the effects of the illegal western wars against several Middle Eastern states? And note the M. Hof’s sudden humanitarian concern for the “slaughtered, maimed, stampeded, starved, tortured and raped” in Syria – as if Mr. Hov has never heard about the US/EU wars against Israel, Afghanistan, and Libya, which had started before the conflict in Syria. These wars have indeed produced a lot of “slaughtered, maimed, stampeded, starved, tortured and raped” persons. Plus the huge waves of refugees, which began reaching Europe before the Syrian war.
    Mr. Hof comes out as an amazingly pliable individual always ready to contort his mind in a profitable direction. A classic opportunist. Who is Frederic C. Hof? Mr. Hof used to be a Mideast official in the Pentagon and the CEO of AALC, an Arlington, VA international business consulting firm.”Since 1993 he has been working closely with corporate clients internationally to solve problems, devise strategies and provide key issue analysis across a broad spectrum of business sectors.”
    Do we need to know more about Mr. Hof? – Currently, Mr. Hof is a Resident Senior Fellow at Atlantic Council, the same Council that had elevated Mr. Higgins (of Billincat fame), a specialist in selling women’ underwear and author of slanderous fantastic stories about US/RF conflict in Ukraine, to Council’s Fellowship.
    Here is a special pronouncement of Mr. Hof, this corporate warrior: “The United States should neither seek nor shy away from confrontation with Russian forces in Syria.” In short, the war profiteers of Military Industrial Complex, rejoice!

    • Replies: @Kiza
  38. annamaria says:

    Sorry: ” US/EU wars against Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, which had started before the conflict in Syria.

    • Replies: @edNels
  39. RobinG says:


    This morning, 10,000 copies of a fake New York Times were handed out across Manhattan — at Penn Station, Grand Central, Times Square — as well as at the Barclays Center. The paper’s front page, accompanied by an online version, proclaimed that Congress would debate U.S. aid to Israel and that Hillary Clinton had quit the presidential race. The ersatz edition even included a bogus weather forecast for Tuesday: “windy, cloudy, high 22.” (Today’s high was 54 degrees.)


    Kirk J. Beattie is a professor at Simmons College in the Political Science and International Relations Department, specializing in comparative politics with regional expertise in the Middle East and Western Europe. He is the author of the 2015 book Congress and the Shaping of the Middle East which is based on 200 congressional staffer interviews about the American Israel Public Affairs Committee’s influence on politicians and policymaking.

    Jim Lobe served as the Washington, DC correspondent and chief of the Washington bureau of IPS from 1980 to 1985, and again from 1989 to the present. Lobe has written at some length on the general worldview of neoconservatives, including “What is a Neo-Conservative Anyway?” Aug. 12, 2003, “From Holocaust to Hyperpower,” Jan 25, 2005, as well as of their policy agendas as they have evolved over time.

    Roger J. Mattson is the author of the forthcoming book, Stealing the Atom Bomb: How Denial and Deception Armed Israel. Dr. Mattson has experience in engineering and management with Sandia National Laboratory, the Atomic Energy Commission, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), the Environmental Protection Agency and several nuclear safety and security consultancies. He was an adviser to the NRC commissioners on policy issues, such as safety goals, risk assessment, nuclear safeguards, and Three Mile Island reforms.

    Justin Raimondo is the editorial director of and a regular contributor to The American Conservative and Chronicles magazines. His books include Reclaiming the American Right: The Lost Legacy of the Conservative Movement (Center for Libertarian Studies, 1993), Into the Bosnian Quagmire: The Case Against U.S. Intervention in the Balkans (AFPAC, 1996), and Colin Powell and the Power Elite (America First Books, 1996).

    Full list/bios –

    • Replies: @geokat62
  40. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:

    well if your old enough to remember the old days of television, there was a weekly show, Outerlimits”, and they started with some clever stuff: “We control the horizontal, we control this’d that… then started an allegorical sic fi episode. Where is all the allegorical gone? Too much for the Xers to interpolate? not up their alley? Or, was it figured out that it was too easy for half wait to make sense and decode the subtextual stuff in it, which could… Undermine the BS that ” glues together the bs that is so integral etc.

    Well anyways… the nature of all the mass entertainment of politics and news about current events issue screwy anymore, I’d say, it is intentionally… totally mimicking the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party” like in Disney’s Alice in Wonderland Cartoon.

    So in memorable past there was Satire, that mocked and showed in relief, some truth about reality. But that being problematic, to even some small degree, things evolved to where the ”Reality” is no longer available, and so can not be mocked because no irony is sensed.

    The cartoon is what you get, in place of reality, So there’s no way to do much with that kind of material. Nobody is making any good cartoon charicatures of any of the political mob anymore, they aren’t real enough to do a take-off from.

    Hell they got things so fantastic, why don’t they just insert some acid in those ”chemtrail” vapor trail things,? and have a good laugh.

    Now, just seeing a (10 part ) documentary about the Donald, what a shark! but, he demonstrates a thing pretty good, that is in short supply: some pluck and independence, in the way he told Fox to fly a kite, (re: Roger Ailes /Meegan Kelly).
    In fact, as mean as he is, what do you see in the others, that is exemplary? Empty suits sycophants, liers, and cyphers.

    Jeeze what a hell of a cartoon it is, wonder how it ends, (happy ending?), where are the Schmedly Butlers, the Sgt. Yourk … Gary Cooper characters when you need em’

  41. RobinG says:

    Just in time for our anti-Israel Lobby activities –

    Meet The New Sniper Golem

    By Gilad Atzmon

    In Jewish tradition the Golem is a robot created by the Jews to serve the chosen people and their tribal interests.

    The best known story of the Golem is of Rabbi Judah Loew ben Bezalel, called the Maharal of Prague (1513-1609). It is said that the Maharalcreated a Golem out of clay to protect the Jews from blood libel and to help Jews comply with requirements for physical labour.

    The Golem has made it to Israel. By now, the Palestinians are accustomed to being watched constantly by a score of Israeli flying Golem or ‘kosher drones.’

    Yesterday we learned that the World Zionist Organization (WZO) has invested in a new cyber Golem designed to spy on all of us. Sniper, the new Golem will scan the net using a new algorithm, looking for anti-Jewish content.

    The new Golem will search for certain keywords in different languages. A crew of WZO members will monitor the results, and react immediately. Once an offender is detected, the WZO will either contact authorities in the offending party’s country or, alternatively, send a flying Golem to track the suspected Jew hater.

    The Sniper Golem “will create deterrence,” say the entrepreneurs behind it, “it won’t be so easy to publish a status calling for the murder of Jews.”

    In my years of activity as a writer and researcher I have never come across a single ‘status’ calling for the ‘murder of Jews.’ This appears to be a severe manifestation of collective Jewish pre Traumatic Stress Syndrome (PRE TSD) hovering on the verge of psychosis.

    The new Golem is set for launch on Sunday, during a WZO conference aimed at combating anti-Semitism in the modern era, which will be attended by Israel’s Ambassador to the UN Danny Danon and Knesset Speaker MK Yuli Edelstein. In short, if you planned to publish a ‘murderous status’, hurry up, only three days left.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  42. Thierry Meyssan at VoltaireNet is determined to expose the role of Jeffrey Feltman in the debacle that turned Syria into a cauldron of suffering humanity.

    In Germany and the UNO Against Syria,Meyssan reported on the complicity of a German think-tank with Feltman to undermine Assad.

    Feltman is also implicated in the assassination of Rafik Hariri, carried out in collaboration with the same German worthies, as well as coordination of Israel’s counterproductive attack on Lebanon in 2006.

    Yesterday, Voltairenet reported on Saudi activities surrounding imminent negotiations toward peace in Syria. Meyssan notes that Feltman’s finger on the scales in the negotiations discredits the role and function of the United Nations as an arbiter. Towards peace in Syria without armed opposition.

    Feltman was mentioned in Victoria Nuland’s “f&%k EU” conversation with Pyatt; Feltman was the State Department’s man in Algeria at the time of the outbreak of “Arab Spring” in Tunisia; and in mid-2008 Feltman told a US State Department panel that he was involved in funding NGOs operating in Iran in the lead-up to Iran’s elections in 2009.

    Colorful guy, that Jeff Feltman.

  43. geokat62 says:

    Hi, Robin. Any luck joining the “Liberty from the Lobby” FB group Phil has set up?

  44. Kiza says:

    It is that special knack of the MIC and its prostitutes and presstitutes to use the dead bodies which they create as a reason why we need to pay them more for their “protection”. The MIC created a self-sufficient, self-containing, and self-perpetuating war eco-system: the MIC kills indiscriminately (for example, using drones), the killing produces enemies, those enemies are to weak to wage real war so MIC calls their attempts at revenge “terrorism”, the MIC kills some more, then they use the dead bodies of their victims for propaganda to show how vile “our enemies” are, and the MIC’s own, real terrorists use victim prisoners for nice extra financing by selling their organs on the black market and so on forever. Nirvana of pigs in the clover.

    • Replies: @Kiza
  45. Thirdeye says:

    You might want to re-check your story on the dancing Israelis and the “art students.”

    You can’t contradict Newton’s laws of physics.

  46. Thirdeye says:

    Hof is thrashing for some way, somehow, to salvage his project that is circling the bowl. even if it means potentially going to war with Russia.

    The “moderates” have been crumbling ever since they lost Salma and their northern supply route from Turkey just got cut. That is only the beginning.

  47. annamaria says:

    meanwhile in Ukraine:
    “The occupation of Ukraine by the US and its allies enters its third year. The results are spectacular: collapse of economy and finance, collapse of industrial production, collapse of the social sphere, education and medical care, a massive exodus of several million people in two years, demographic collapses, depopulation of entire regions, bombing of major Ukrainian cities, biological warfare on the population, massive forest fires in the Chernobyl region, widepsread hunger and cold, spike in violent crimes, organ trafficking and tens of thousands of people including children missing.”
    So, who was an originator of the “most blatant coup d’etat?”

  48. Kiza says:

    Why are US MIC results so miserable relative to the amount of money it costs. The Russian military budget is at least 12 times smaller than the US budget (but up to additional 50% of the US official military budget is hidden into the “non-military” budget items, such civilian nuclear energy and so on, and into ad hoc military appropriations and “kinetic action” allocations, which lifts it from the official \$550B to at least \$750B). Yet, Russia produces armaments which are in some areas almost on par, but in others even better than what the US has in its arsenal, especially in Electronic Warfare – EW.

    It is not that Russian military does not do corruption, a recent Russian defense minister was caught trading in vast military real-estate assets for personal and his buddies’ gain. Therefore, corruption exists in every military, but only in the US it is institutionalized and ubiquitous. Here is a really great summary of how corruption criples the US military capabilities, a must read:

    The US MIC is not corrupt, it is the meaning of corruption.

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  50. Robzview says:

    Firstly for the latest posters,nothing to say about the substance of the item,just a snippy comment on the lack of paras. Go back to bed. Recent developments in Syria- lifting of sieges in “pro govt towns”Russian close air support for SAA and allies advances into “rebel” held areas, cutting off supply lines to Turkey etc etc time to wake up America regime change gone,terrorists on the run,Russia not going home any time soon(try another shoot down erdogan go on just try ).

    • Replies: @Kiza
  51. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The grimm conclusion is, at the crossroad of MEast we were on serious fault when chose A friend. Actually time cannot be renewable to avoid save-our-self situation.

  52. It amazes me that the neocons still insist that the west still has an option in Syria. America, smartly avoids a disastrous conflict that it cannot win. Russia, China, Iran are in Syria to stay. Please, everyone, stop stating that Saudi Arabia is behind ISIS for this is grossly untrue. Clearly, Israel is behind ISIS and is desperately attempting to blame Saudi Arabia and Turkey for her roles in the formation of ISIS. Further, the neocons in Washington and Tel Aviv have been quiet, the quiet before the storm. No doubt that they will be facilitating a major terrorist attack, most likely on American soil. They are quiet for two reasons; one, to get their candidate into the WH- Sanders, and secondly; plausible denial. Same Ol’, Same Ol’.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  53. Kiza says:

    The latest is that the SAA is preparing an attack to cut of the main jihadi highway between Aleppo and Turkey. This comes as close as possible to the most important battle of the war. Without the supplies from Turkey, almost all terrorists will be in huge trouble, both those sponsored by Saudi Arabia and those sponsored by Turkey. Therefore, big trouble for the jihadis ahead.

    This is why Erdogan is preparing Turkish tanks a troops for the same battle – there is a good chance that Turkey will finally openly attack Syria, instead of using its terrorist proxies.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    , @Avery
  54. @Boris M Garsky

    Please, everyone, stop stating that Saudi Arabia is behind ISIS for this is grossly untrue. Clearly, Israel is behind ISIS and is desperately attempting to blame Saudi Arabia and Turkey for her roles in the formation of ISIS. . . .

    They are quiet for two reasons; one, to get their candidate into the WH- Sanders, and secondly; plausible denial. Same Ol’, Same Ol’.

    Disagree with the first point: Israel has been increasing its alliance with Saudi Arabia for several years. Bibi declared it from the podium of United Nations in 2014. see


    Very much agree that Sanders is a stealth candidate of the Israel lobby.

    Why does he keep naming the Koch brothers as offensive “billionaires” but not naming the numerous Jewish billionaires who are running the show on Wall Street and backing candidates who will comply with their Israel first demands?

    Sanders said in a speech in NH yesterday that unemployment is a major cause of instability that leads to the fact that US has the highest rate of incarceration in the world. His solution is to raise the minimum wage.

    At the same time, Jewish functionaries in US Treasury Department and Jewish-dominated committees in Congress are running ruinous economic-financial wars against Iran and Russia, intended to provoke destabilization.

    This is just like the way Jews and other Wall Street financiers ran ruinous and provocative financial wars against Russia (in early 20th century) and Germany beginning in 1933, with the intention of provoking the war that ultimately destroyed Germany and the Christian core of Europe.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
  55. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    What do you have against concentrating and using your brain?

  56. thomasMV says: • Website

    RE: WFAN… Bread & circus diverts, & corrupts rational analysis and constructive thinking. Winning mud wrestling match is \$hit…

    Just spent an hour listening to NPR, subject Syria: Every minutia explored ad nauseum, except why & why Syria!!

    To make way for greater Izreal??? And then there is “The Great Game”: Populated by the Neo-Zion, (Hillary?) Victoria Nuland’s “Destroy Russia LLC”

    Whys and who’s not important on NPR. They mislead by omission…

  57. druid says:

    Or self – imploded !

  58. @Kiza

    Which explains why Kerry is demanding that Russia immediately stop bombing ISIS.

    • Replies: @Kiza
  59. My one disagreement with Mr. Giraldi is his observation that the problem originated in 2003.

    The root of the problem is the use of chaos as a tool of US foreign policy. Prior to the Iran-Iraq War, the “arc of crisis” was used to further what were perceived as US interests, for example to weaken the Soviet Union by creating a challenge for in in Afghanistan and eventually Central Asia.

    However, with the Iran-Iraq War, the MIC discovered that it could make money selling arms to both sides. When the Soviets collapsed and the Cold War could no longer be used to justify increased military spending, the MIC needed a new security threat. What was the US interest in the disintegration of Yugoslavia? The West first encouraged the secession of Slovenia, then Croatia with its cleansing of its Serb population. Did it increase global security to feed the paranoia of Serbs? No, but it sold lots of arms, so it was a great success.

    Chaos for the sake of chaos and arms sales has become the essence of US policy, and it started long before 2003.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Art
  60. Art says:

    My one disagreement with Mr. Giraldi is his observation that the problem originated in 2003.

    The problem began with the creation of Israel in 1948 – period – end of discussion!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  61. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Israel was not created in 1948 it declared itself a state in 1948.

    Israel was created — that is, it became an entity determined to dispossess indigenous Palestinians and make of their land a Jewish thing — as early as 1905 or so.

    It’s important to get the timeline correct because the facts undermine the claim that the “holocaust” necessitated the creation of Israel.

    count on your fingers if you have to.

    Cause comes before effect and 1905 comes before 1945.

    • Replies: @anti_republocrat
  62. Kiza says:
    @Carroll Price

    Well that was all expected. The best way to know the situation on the ground is to wait for the US to call for peace negotiations. This is a sure-fire sign that their proxies on the ground are in serious trouble. I remember the same from the Bosnian war – when the Bosnian Serb offensive was kicking the bejesus out of the Bosnian Muslims (proxies of Saudi Arabia), the US and UK were screaming for peace negotiations. But before, when they landed planeloads of mujahedin onto Sarajevo Airport from Iran (of all places, Shiite Iran was sending fighters to help Bosnian Sunni Muslims; Sunni money + Shiite fighters + Western logistics = Bosnian War), then there was no time for negotiations.

    The same pattern repeated itself in every Western war of choice after, including Ukraine before Syria.

    Now, if you did not know the juiciest detail from Kerry’s “demand”: the US is offering a drop in Saudi Oil production, to increase the price of oil and thus pull Russia out of recession. Mike Whitney wrote an article about this, which has not taken yet.

    BTW, Saudi Arabia is a proxy of Israel, that is one of Israel’s allies which pays for what Israel wants (Israel somehow never has the money to pay for what it wants, other peoples’ money is always preferred).

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  63. @anonymous

    Excellent point. People also need to realize that ethnic cleansing was always fundamental to mainstream Zionism, due to its requirement for a state dominated by Jews. The ideology also requires the “ingathering” of all Jews to Eretz Israel. Unfortunately, there were many Jews in the diaspora and non-Jews who supported the Zionist movement but did not understand those two fundamental truths or chose to ignore them

  64. Avery says:

    {…there is a good chance that Turkey will finally openly attack Syria….}

    It’s been said not to underestimate the arrogant stupidity of Turk leaders.
    But even they can’t be that stupid, can they ?

    Let us see:

    1. The legitimate government of Syria has invited Russian military into Syria.
    2. A ground invasion by Turkey would be illegal.
    3. Turkish armored columns can and will be attacked as illegal invaders.
    4. Yes, illegality did not stop NATO or its members from attacking Yugoslavia, for instance. But that was then and this is now: Russia has already demonstrated to the warmongers that things have changed.
    5. Even Neocon puppet UN cannot legitimize an illegal invasion by Turks, with permanent member Russia (…and China), vetoing anything they come up with.
    6. An armored column without air cover is so much as scrap metal .
    7. Russian air defenses will not allow Turkish AF to support their armored columns. After a few F-16s are shot down, Turks will get the message.
    8. SAA does not have the numbers or the equipment to stop the Turks. So it will fall to Russia.
    9. What is Russia going to do, allow Turks to move around Syria freely ?
    10. Russia has to destroy Turk armor: otherwise might as well invite NATO into Moscow.
    11. After Turk AF is chased away, Turk armor can be methodically destroyed.
    12. What is NATO going to do: start a nuke war with Russia ?
    13. They might: but Russia has publicly announced that it reserves the right of first-use of tactical nukes. I doubt very much European people will allow their leaders to commit them to collective suicide for Anglo-American crazies.
    14. Turk armor can also be destroyed via cruise missiles launched by the Caspian fleet. What is NATO going to do, attack Russian navy ships inside Russia ?

    So I don’t think the Turk troop concentration is anything more than desperate posturing.
    Turks know without air cover it will be a “Turkey shoot”. And Russia is not about to allow Turk AF to violate Syrian airspace. Russia in fact will welcome the opportunity to avenge the Su-24 shootdown.

  65. Kiza says:
    @Carroll Price

    and Avery

    Well the Turks are crying about the humanitarian catastrophe in Aleppo because, due to Russian bombing, they cannot deliver their “humanitarian assistance” to the “besieged civilians”:

    Therefore, all the signs are that the Syrian war is going towards its end. The only chance for the the Coalition of the Sponsors of Terrorism (COST) is now for the US to jump into the war. The COST desperately needs a false flag to justify getting US military involved into this war. As I wrote before, it is unlikely that the US will get involved in the Syrian War under the electioneering conditions. The most likely scenario of a possible military intervention by the Coalition of the Sponsors of Terrorism, is Turkish tanks and troops with some Saudi troops, supported by US, NATO and Israeli air-forces fighting the Russian airforce for the control of the Syrian sky. The Incirlik base is full of US military jets and there are a US and a French aircraft carriers near by.

    5731 and Avery, please stop writing about the NATO Charter and the International Law, when the the Coalition of the Sponsors of Terrorism has broken just about every law in existence. This is only about power, nothing about the law or agreements. The Euro-puppets in NATO will do exactly as told, the good dogs that they are.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Kiza
    , @Avery
  66. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    and that ain’t all

    John Batcheror interviews Prof. Stephen Cohen: sobering.

    US is weaponizing Russia’s borders

  67. Kiza says:

    In a stunning display of disregard for international laws the two US satellites, UK and Sweden, say that they will disregard the UN decision on unlawful detention of Julian Assange.

    It is my opinion that if you are coming to alternative media, such as, then you should not suffer from any illusion that there is any law for Israel and its satellites, US and EU. Such illusions are reserved for the brainwashed consumers of the regimes’ MSM. Opposite to this, Russia and China have to observe the laws, signed and unsigned. But for Israel, US and EU, if it is not in their interest, it is as if the law does not exist. Who is going to force them to comply?

    Thus, International Law is only called upon to justify the Western interest in something. When it cannot be used as a justification, then the law does not exist. Simple.

    • Replies: @Avery
  68. Avery says:

    {5731 and Avery, please stop writing about the NATO Charter and the International Law, when the the Coalition of the Sponsors of Terrorism has broken just about every law in existence. This is only about power, nothing about the law or agreements. The Euro-puppets in NATO will do exactly as told, the good dogs that they are.}

    {4. Yes, illegality did not stop NATO or its members from attacking Yugoslavia, for instance. But that was then and this is now: Russia has already demonstrated to the warmongers that things have changed.}

    Things have changed: Russia now has power. Did not have it when Yugoslavia was decimated, and could not help (….exemplified by the Pristina airport fiasco). When you have power, you can play the game of ” NATO Charter and the International Law” on the same level with the COST gang, as Russia has demonstrated in Syria.

    Not only that, you can turn their tools against them, as Russia has done.
    It’s a global theater.

  69. Avery says:


    Nobody here is suffering from any illusions.
    Certainly I am not.

    I am well aware of what International “Law” is and isn’t.
    And clearly so do the leaders of Russia and China.
    When Pres Putin and FM Lavrov talk about “International Law” and “our Western partners” they certainly are under no illusions as to who those alleged “partners” are.
    But it’s a theater. And Russian leaders are playing their part quite well.
    And the reason they can play so well, is because they quietly were building up Russia’s military while their “partners” were celebrating the demise and backwardness of Russian military.
    Until the spectacular cruise missile salvo from the Caspian Sea disabused them of their illusions.

    Russia now has brute power, has shown is not shy to use it, and can use the International “Law”, such as it is, to its advantage.
    Two can play the game.

  70. @Rehmat

    Tulsi Gabbard isn’t Indian . Her dad is White+Samoan and her mom is White. Her mom adopted Hinduism ergo Tulsi’s connection to the religion.

  71. geokat62 says:

    Just came across this cool billboard:

    I’ve added this and another demand to our list:

    1. public money for public elections
    2. all foreign agents must register under FARA
    3. no more wars for Israel
    4. end the occupation, now
    5. the perpetrators of the illegal invasion of Iraq must be brought to justice
    6. the facilitators of torture must be brought to justice
    7. no dual citizens in positions of high office
    8. Israel must become a signatory of the NPT
    9. no more tribute paid to Israel
    10. no more UN vetoes for Israel
    11. America First, Not Israel
    12. free Edward Snowden, free Julian Assange

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @RobinG
  72. RobinG says:

    Yes, those are amazing billboards, and Deir Yassin Remembered is an excellent group. (Check out their web page.)

    Alison Weir just wrote to the If Americans Knew mailing list…

    Dear xxxxxx,

    Here’s a 20-second video on how AIPAC operates on campuses:

    And here’s a 1-minute clip from a video report by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency about how AIPAC has pushed us to attack Iran:

    I urge everyone to go to Washington, DC on March 20th to join the mass demonstration against AIPAC – information is here. We’ll be there and hope you will be, too!

    It’s time to show our politicians how many people oppose tragic and unnecessary wars, support full rights for Palestinians, and object to AIPAC’s destructive influence over US policies.

    Best wishes,
    Alison Weir

    FYI, the schedule that week —

    Friday, March 18 — conference, Israel’s Influence on America

    Sunday, March 20 — National March to Support Palestine and Protest AIPAC.

    Sunday, March 20 – Tuesday March 22 — AIPAC Policy Conference 2016

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  73. @RobinG

    Robin, geokat62, other CoffeePartiers —

    a. Listen very carefully to Gilad Atzmon’s recent talk in NYC (Atzmon’s ideas and presentations are frequently intricately layered);

    b. Absorb the essential points of Atzmon’s thesis. (Atzmon’s discussions about Jewish Identity Politics on RedIce are also insightful)

    c. Apply those essential points to the participants in the WRMEA conference and to the persons proposed by **Liberty from the Lobby**

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @geokat62
  74. geokat62 says:

    Apply those essential points to… the persons proposed by **Liberty from the Lobby**

    Thanks for sharing, S2C. I take it you’re suggesting we drop a certain someone from our invite list?

    I think it’s best to have these discussions on Phil’s FB group. Have you had the opportunity to join? (btw – I put this same question to Robin, but I didn’t get a response).

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  75. @SolontoCroesus

    PS Neither the suggested email network nor the Facebook page seem to have caught fire.

    So this is a bit of sticking-my-neck-out — just a bit.

    I would pass on several of the persons proposed to participate in Liberty from the Lobby.

    My preferences tend to high-information low-noise type events, more like seminars and less like pep rallies. (Alternatively, an event such as a Mock Trial can be effective.)

    Over the 20 years or so that I’ve been watching this topic, I’ve encountered a number of academics and authors who are off the beaten track but who have researched and written very important analyses. One such scholar is Walter Hixson, professor of history at Akron University, who came to my attention when he involved himself in a 2011 incident at Kent State University where KSU prof. Julio Pino shouted “Death to Israel” at a CAMERA-sponsored talk by an Israeli representative.

    the Op Ed Hixson wrote about the KSU incident:

    CAMERA responds to Hixson’s Op Ed:

    (I followed the Letters to the Editor in Akron Beacon Journal on this tempest; it’s where I first encountered what Atzmon calls “Pre Traumatic Stress Disorder.” )

    Five years later, Julio Pino is still challenging the IPTB and the boundaries of free speech. For his troubles he is under investigation by FBI.

    Hixson’s CV:

    Hixson has carried out extensive research on American foreign policy and diplomacy.


    David Stockman has remained active in small circles of the public arena.


    So has Gary Hart, whose book and talk on Machiavelli still inspire me


    John Mueller of Ohio State University has spoken out courageously against neoconservative dominance of US foreign policy


    Jeffrey Wawro has done bold and impressive historical writing on the evolution of the US – Israel relationship

    I’ll link again to a very fine conference sponsored by American Conservative last Fall —

    In addition to Phil’s talk, these speakers were impressive (imho) (not an exhaustive list, just my favorites):

    John Duncan (R-Tenn)
    William Ruger
    Michael Desch
    Emma Ashford **
    Fr. Thomas Zain
    William Lind

    ** Ashford is a newly minted PhD. If we wish to degrade and destroy the power of the Israel lobby, we better have an alternative waiting in the wings, and we damn well better nurture young people to develop the rhetorical, political, and scholarly skills to do so.


    Mary Ellen O’Connell of Notre Dame University has special expertise in Just War Theory, laws of war, and laws re international sanctions


    Dr. Dan Joyner is my go-to guy when the topic is the law of international treaties in general with special expertise in Nuclear Non- Proliferation and CBW treaties

    NC Congressman Walter Jones has taken a number of courageous positions and deserves not only our support but also should be more widely known: Courage is infectious.


    Two other aspects of a proposed event that I think are important:

    1. Conferences like this might do well to rebalance “talking to” and “listening to.” By giving attendees more time and space to be listened to, — maybe small-group break-outs moderated by conference Speakers, conference organizers might discover pockets of expertise in talk-over land, and must find ways to empower and amplify the positions that we wish to prevail.

    2. There MUST be a take-away; ideally, quite carefully programmed or scripted, for example, a kind of syllabus for an at-home salon that conferees would organize in their neighborhoods and communities.

  76. @geokat62

    I’ve not been able to find the FB page, try as I might, thru google as well as my own FB.

    Is there a magic word or special knock-knock I should know?

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  77. geokat62 says:

    All I did was enter “liberty from the lobby” in the “search Facebook” field at the top of my FB page. It then displayed a number of groups with the words “liberty” and/or “lobby” and I managed to find the one Phil set up (so did Cloak n’ Dagger).

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  78. geokat62 says:

    Absorb the essential points of Atzmon’s thesis.

    While I think his observation that “the goy drift away from dissent” is very valid, I think he gives the concerns you’ve expressed about “chickens and pigs” short shrift, as a possible explanation for this phenomenon.

  79. @geokat62

    I guess I should have taken my anti crotchety pills before scrolling through a gazillion FBs with “Liberty” or “Lobby” on them.

    For this hunt-and-peck system Zuckerberg became a billionaire?

    I spent 20 minutes & could not find Liberty from the Lobby.

    I’m not going to spend more time.

    Good luck y’all.
    Call if you get work.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  80. RobinG says:


    Events at Atlantic Council are routinely attended by staff of numerous foreign embassies, as well as US military officers and K Street think tankers. Hof and fellow toady David Ottaway will no doubt press the current groupthink … which may include growing friction with SA.


    Great Rifts: Political and Economic Ramifications of the Iran-Saudi Divide

    A Conversation with:

    Frederic C. Hof

    Senior Fellow, Rafik Hariri Center for the Middle East
    Atlantic Council

    Amir Handjani
    PG International Commodity Trading Services

    Sara Vakhshouri
    Senior Fellow, Global Energy Center
    Atlantic Council

    David Ottaway
    Senior Scholar
    Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars

    Moderated by:

    Barbara Slavin
    Acting Director, Future of Iran Initiative
    Atlantic Council

    The Atlantic Council’s Future of Iran Initiative invites you to a discussion entitled, “Great Rifts: Political and Economic Ramifications of the Iran-Saudi Divide” on Tuesday, February 9.

    More than a month after the Saudi execution of a prominent Shi’ite leader and Iranian despoiling of the Saudi embassy, the rift between the two major Middle Eastern powers continues to roil regional diplomacy. The strife between the two countries has the potential to transform into a full blown conflict, with ramifications on the proposed peace process in Syria and global energy markets. Join us for a discussion about the impact of this dangerous divide on shifting economic and political trends in the region.

    DATE: Tuesday, February 9, 2016
    TIME: 10:00 a.m. – 11:30 a.m.
    LOCATION: Atlantic Council

    1030 15th Street NW, 12th Floor

    Washington, DC 20005

  81. Ace says:

    It’s a sad note when I begin to think that the “Great Satan” nonsense might actually be a good working hypothesis. At a minimum, Barry’s Excellent Syrian and Libyan Adventures are knee deep in lies, and the death and misery are entirely our doing.

    The involvement of Hillary “We came. We saw. He died.” Rodham in our foreign policy formulation and implementation is an absurdity.

    Our support for ISIS and al-QaidaNusraShamMartyrs Brigade has rendered us unclean.

  82. Ace says:

    Those thousands of pound of “explosive” thermite charges were carried up the stairs unnoticed during this power outage. They were emplaced, again unnoticed by tenants or security, with precision and lightning speed in the dark.

    That makes sense.

    Thermite charges work by igniting and burning at extremely high temperatures, not by generating shock waves.

  83. RobinG says:

    Good news: we have work! At least Phil does… He’s been asked to speak on March 20. We are planning a little coming out party for Liberty from the Lobby. (Did Phil send, in your email, an invite to the FB page? I followed it, and am in.)

    National March on Washington D.C. to Support Palestine
    March 20, 2015 at 12pm – 5pm

    The National March and Rally is timed to coincide with the opening of the AIPAC Convention in downtown Washington, D.C. We will gather in front of the White House for a rally at 12 Noon. At 1:00 pm we will march to the D.C. Convention Center, the site of the AIPAC (American Israeli Public Affairs Committee) conference.

  84. (Did Phil send, in your email, an invite to the FB page? I followed it, and am in.)

    not as of February 16, 2016 at 12:00 am GMT

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  85. @SolontoCroesus

    (Did Phil send, in your email, an invite to the FB page? I followed it, and am in.)

    not as of Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:00 pm GMT

    Maybe it got lost in the mail.
    Same thing happened to my invitation to the Inaugural Ball.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  86. RobinG says:

    Some birthing pains, and Phil has been away for ten days. But he has been invited to speak on March 20.
    National March on Washington D.C. to Support Palestine

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