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I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was the sixth such conference, intended to bring together speakers from a number of countries to discuss issues involving Middle Eastern security and identity issues.

To be sure, Iran, threatened as it is from all sides, has certain aspects of a security state. And as what is essentially a partial democracy run along religious lines, it has very clear limits on what constitutes acceptable behavior. But I think the representatives of the thirty or so countries who attended the congress would agree that there was no attempt made to limit free speech or guide discussions. The only attempt to censor the conference and its content has been, I would note, the blocking of sponsor New Horizon’s website on Google and presumably elsewhere in the Zionist/U.S. dominated social media and information-searching world. Indeed, the only coordinated activity that might have been noted at the conference itself was the loud hissing noise that accompanied any mention of the name John Bolton.

Indeed, there was clear criticism of the nature of the Iranian government openly expressed at the conference as well as very heated exchanges on a number of issues surrounding Jewish identity, Israel, the Palestinians, the status of Jerusalem and the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Agreement (JCPOA) on the Iranian nuclear program. Privately, many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change. It should be noted that such comments were not provoked by anything that any of us said. We were indeed being careful not to offend the host country or to get the organizers in trouble, perhaps more cautious than we had to be.

One might also mention that the timing of the conference and associated activities was particularly appropriate as it came on the heels of the President Donald Trump’s abandonment of the JCPOA and the slaughter of Palestinian protesters by the Israeli Army in Gaza. We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more. A baby that was in an area far outside of the area where the shooting was taking place died after being suffocated by the clouds of teargas being used by the Israelis. It was ghastly and it was disgusting. Predictably the Israeli shills in both the U.S. and from Israel itself made the victim the guilty party, arguing that the child should never have been so close to the “fighting” there in Gaza in the first place.

And for those who are concerned that the Israeli Army might even run out of bullets, rest assured that all appropriate steps are being taken. Knesset member Avi Dichter reassured the audience on live television the army “has enough bullets for everyone. If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem.”

I have been invited to Iran before, but as an ex-CIA it was complicated for me to get a visa to make the journey. In this case, however, the hard work and networking of the conference sponsors prevailed, making it possible for me and some friends formerly working for the Pentagon to speak and also participate in the numerous panels. We were an instant hit among the attendees and also for the Iranian public, being featured in the local and national media and interviewed over and over again.

To be sure, some will say that we were little more than useful idiots, invited to disparage the United States and provide aid and comfort to its enemies, but that would assume there was any effort to enforce uniformity in the speeches and comments, which, as I have already noted, was not the case. There was, indeed, a theme of the conference, which was essentially that the U.S. recognition of Jerusalem was a new catastrophe delivered by Washington on the backs of the long suffering Palestinian people, virtually guaranteeing that a Palestinian state will never be allowed to develop. And U.S. uncritical support of Israel and its fascistic leader Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is, of course, the root cause of the problem, something that was discussed in some depth.

I will not make any attempt to describe the speeches and speakers at the conference as I am sure that such material will be surfacing independently through the alternative media over the next few days, but I would like to share some impressions as well as some particularly well-made points that emerged about the current and, unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.

Many at the conference came away convinced that the White House’s rejection of JCPOA was a watershed moment. The anger in Europe clearly being expressed in their national media last week reflects an understanding that the United States is no longer interested in cooperating with anyone to reduce the risk of war. If European nations act in support of their rhetoric there will be an increase in efforts to distance themselves from Washington. This will include mechanisms to work around American sanctions, to include buying Iranian oil with Euros instead of dollars and selling to Iran in ways that avoid U.S. banks as conduits. The eventual result, which will undoubtedly be supported by China and Russia, would mean a flight from dollars as the world reserve currency. The reduced acceptability of the dollar in turn would mean that the Federal Reserve will be unable to continue to print fiat money to support U.S. interventions, with severe repercussions for the American economy.

And the participants at the conference would likely agree that the United States government has no credibility, by which I mean NONE. It is not particularly a Trump issue but rather a Trump-Obama-Bush problem that has been festering ever since 9/11 if not before. We conference participants watched the slaying of the Palestinians and, by split screen, also witnessed how someone named Raj Shah at the White House told reporters at a press briefing that “The responsibility for these tragic deaths rests squarely with Hamas. Hamas is intentionally and cynically provoking this response” as “a gruesome and unfortunate propaganda attempt.” Sure didn’t look like that, Raj.

And meanwhile over at the United Nations, the irrepressible so-called American Ambassador Nikki Haley vetoed a Russian proposal seeking an investigation into the carnage, explaining that that Hamas, aided of course by Iran, was to blame for the violence. “I ask my colleagues here in the Security Council: who among us would accept this type of activity on your border? No one would. No country in this chamber would act with more restraint than Israel has.” She then walked out when Riyad Mansour, the Palestinian Permanent Representative to the United Nations began to speak.

Combining the words “Israel” and “restraint” in one sentence just might be a breakthrough moment for the hard charging Nikki, but one hopes for another breakthrough on her part in the ability to see dead Palestinian children as real human beings rather than just as targets for Israeli sharpshooters. Indeed, Haley might must consider that there are a lot of human beings floating around who are perfectly decent individuals finding themselves just a bit tired of being stamped on by the United States and its mad dog Israel.

The biggest lesson I learned in Iran was that in spite of all the years of abuse, Iranians still like and respect Americans. I heard over and over again expressions of that fact from ordinary people and sophisticates alike. They would love to have a good relationship and an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen. The only problem is that the United States doesn’t do that anymore. For that reason, the Iranians expressing their liking for the U.S. did have one problem. They can’t stand what the U.S. government is doing all over the world. Well, neither can I and I told them so, as did the twenty or so other Americans present at the conference. I also told them that, unfortunately, the door to Washington is controlled by Israel, which has been doing an expert job at defaming Iran for the past thirty years. The door won’t open anytime soon.

And as sometimes what is expected does not take place, I have to report that I was not harassed by the U.S. authorities when I returned home. Other American conference participants who had long involvement in the peace movement had told harrowing stories of being hounded by the federal government every time they left the country and returned. In my case, I had been headlined in the Iranian and Middle Eastern media during the whole time of the conference and surely was picked up through the intensive USGOV monitoring of all things going on in Iran. I had fully expected to be approached by two thugs with badges on arrival, but they didn’t show up. Maybe next time.

 
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  1. Bravo! You are a very brave and righteous man, Phil Giraldi, and a trailblazer worthy of emulation. We are fortunate to have you!

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    Bravo, and Brave and Righteous, and all that, but mostly what I'm thinking is ENVY!

    I wish I could have been there!

    Iran is so beautiful; the cause is so important; your advocacy is so deep-rooted and vital -- I wish I could have witnessed the conference in real time.

    Thanks a million for the report, Phil, and I hope we will hear more about the conferees and the topic.

    Until then --


    Will Trump’s Pyrrhic Victory End with America’s Role As Global Bully?
    By Philip M. Giraldi
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49451.htm
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  2. peterAUS says:

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.

    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.

    I tried to find those videos. Not easy…..

    Examples:

    My take: inconclusive.

    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg…or so I say).

    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That’s for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who’s right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It’s not medieval. It’s ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.

    Yup. Emphasize on “burgeoning”.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.
    , @Marcus

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
     
    Western Europeans would just let them in
    , @Anon
    Your "inconclusive" is rubbish. If you can't apply as a matter of morality the simple rules which apply to a common law defence to a murder charge of self defence then you ought to switch on your brain and connect it up too to a conscience. Why not wait till someone breaks through the fence and then let him (them) have it with machine guns if you do think serious violence is needed?
    , @Svigor
    My criteria for whether the IDF is doing an acceptable job doesn't exist in a vacuum; for me, it's about whether the IDF lives up to the standards that Jews hold American Whites to.

    The answer is FUCK NO.
    , @annamaria
    Giraldi is right: "Israel and its fascistic leader Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu."
    You, peterAUS, cannot refute this succinct statement. Israel has been practicing fascistic policies towards all her neighbors (see Oded Yinon plan).
    There has been also a well-documented collaboration between Israel and ISIS (Al Qaeda). And this is not all: Israel-firsters and ziocons have been collaborating with banderites in Ukraine. Amazingly, neither ADL nor any other nazi-hunting organization raised their voices against Nuland-Kagan, Pyatt, and McCain, these ardent friends and supporters of Ukrainian self-proclaimed neo-Nazi: https://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/us-backing-neo-nazis-ukraine
    -- Your posts are good at inviting the readers to ponder on the cynism and amorality of "the most victimized" and the "most moral."
    The only natural solution to the problem seems to be the giving up on the ethnic exclusivity (supremacism) of the state of Israel and creating a normal modern state where Palestinians would have the same rights as the supposedly Jewish aliya from Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and Brooklyn.
    , @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
     
    Sitting here, trying my hardest to imagine what it would be like to have this happening on my border, yet somehow all I can seem to do is imagine myself as the Palestinian in such a scenario. Screaming at invaders who used a contract with a foreign government to invade, slaughter and replace my people with their preferred demographics, and then proceeded to continue slaughtering, displacing and robbing my people of everything they have ever known for the next 70 years while simultaneously screeching about their 'right' to defend themselves against us.

    That about sum it up for you, ZioNazi? You don't get to do the invading and the killing and then cry victim when your victims of 70+ years now decide to do something other than quietly accept their genocide.

    That border you speak of, it's PALESTINE'S border. Not Israel's. That Balfour Declaration of 1917 by which Israel was created, was a declaration of a war of aggression wherein Jews and Brits stole occupied land and claimed it as their own. Then they built an 80% ATHEISTIC nation on the land and cited their land lord of a god as justification for their actions.

    The illegitimate Rothschild terror state of Israel has no right to exist.

    , @forgottenpseudonym
    It doesn't happen at US borders, and it doesn't happen at EU or UK borders. You're not being controversial. You're being wrong.
    , @Art
    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.

    How stupid!

    I feel sorry for AUS – they have a peter on display, with a very small brain that can only process one picture at a time. He is incapable of seeing the whole picture, of 70 years of Jew rule over the Palestinians. Stupid peter has zero empathy for the beleaguered people of Gaza.

    peter is not much of a man – a real man feels the just anger that boys and young men naturally feel toward the oppressors of their families. People that have it all together empathize with the Palestinians - not the mean Jews.

    Why are all the Jew lovers so inhuman? They are never nice. They are always haughty and arrogant. They think meanness is smart.

    Think Peace --- Do No harm --- Maintain Hope --- Seek Idealism --- Art

    p.s. peterAUS and Jews – birds of a feather.
    , @Biff

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
     
    Look up the definition of a border - “a line between two States”. Gaza is not a State.
    Look up the definition of a prison wall, and you will find the truth.
    , @CalDre
    That's all good and well to write as a Hasbara.

    But what if the Palestinians murdered every Jew entering the West Bank? They are actually entering, not just approaching. You would laud their moral rectitude?

    Oh, right, Jews are Gods and the Palestinian animals don't have the same rights in the Jew supremacist Hasbara book.

    "One million Palestinians are not worth a single Jewish fingernail", right, Hasbara?
    , @Brendon O'Connell
    WHAT THE EXPERTS ARE NOT DISCUSSING - ISRAEL, RUSSIA, CHINA & IRAN, BELT & ROAD INITIATIVE AND HOW THIS IS AFFECTING THE MIDDLE EAST

    They are all co-operating. Especially Israel, Russia and China. Israel is using stolen US high technology to make itself indispensable in the $7.2 trillion dollar economic development of the Eurasian, African and Middle Eastern economic belt.

    Israel will have FULL control over these countries critical infrastructure and Internet Of Things.

    ISRAELS SECRET WEAPON THE TALPIOT PROGRAM
    Israel's complete domination of the high technology sector and how it makes Israel a world power.
    https://vimeo.com/261809752

    ISRAELI DRONES WORLD WIDE
    One hour video on the intruiging goings on between Israel, Russia, China and Iran amongst others. High technology transfers and Israel providing technology for the $7.2 trillion Belt & Road Initiative.
    https://vimeo.com/261811415

    THE TIMES OF ISRAEL - CHINA ISRAEL HIGH TECH CO-OPERATION
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/china-israel-technology/#

    If China and Russia are the new sworn enemies of the United States, how is it Israel - the bestest friend ever of the U.S - is supplying both these countries with technology Israel stole off the United States?

    I was in Iran for three months and was being groomed to work with Iranian Government analysts at The Persian Gulf Studies Centre. I was also being groomed for a show on Press TV. It was a bizarre experience. I see why they call Iran, "North Korea lite".

    What is not being discussed here is The Belt & Road Initiative (BRE). Or, One Belt One Road (OBOR) as it was formally known, and its primary role as the bubble in which these Middle Eastern events are unfolding.

    China has been given $7.2 trillion to play with by The City of London and Lord Jacob Rothschild. Israel has THE primary role as high technology provider for this project - and no one is talking about it.

    You'd think there would be some "narrative" about this in the "expert" analysis by all these intelligence guys over there? We've tried contacting them ten million times. Maybe the emails don't get through?

    Aircraft from Kuala Lumpur to Tehran three times per week are filled with Chinese business men. They are all over the airport and the streets of Tehran - no one talks about this as an important over all aspect of this Middle Eastern "re-shaping" of the area?
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  3. Biff says:

    Sounds like the Iranians are more plugged into world affairs than Americans. The Yankee media has been streamlined leaving them completely isolated from the rest of the world.

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped? The crash of the dollar is the only thing I can think of.

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    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped?
     
    Duped about what?
    , @Monty Ahwazi
    A cab driver in Tehran knows more about the world affairs than Trump, Bolton and Pompeo combined!
    , @Richard Vajs
    When the crash comes, there are going to be large numbers of elderly Americans living on good pensions who will all of a sudden be broke. Many of these will be conservative, Evangelical, Israel -worshippers who will be loud and angry because they can no longer go on their "little cruises" or visit Branson, Missouri next Christmas. With great glee, I will tell them - "Do you love being broke?; if so, thank an Israeli. And, also why don't you personally thank your Congressman for pissing off the whole world to spite the Palestinians and the Iranians!"
    , @Carroll Price

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped?
     
    Americans are like children, they enjoy being duped. They wouldn't have it any other way.
    , @Brendon O'Connell
    No. Iranians are pretty stupid. They are not encouraged to learn English. I met Iranian government analysts from The Persian Gulf Studies Center. I was to work with them after being given political asylum.

    They were far more interested in going after Saudi Arabia than they were going after Israel.

    They simply had zero clue. Nice people - I loved them personally.

    I met a Colonel from passport and border control - allegedly a Mr Housseine. Again, ZERO clue. He asked why i did not apply for asylum in Germany :-D

    There is a clique of disaspora Iranians who are very clued up and they keep the rest of the country as dumb as possible.

    The "revolution" was a Rothschild private intelligence conspired revolution coming out of a Paris commune followed by a German intelligence documentary crew.

    Iran has an extremely close relationship with Swiss and German banks. Iranians also LOVE Germany. Haj for an Iranian is a trip to Berlin.

    Like in so many issues, we have polarization. Iran is either loved or despised. It deserves neither. It plays it's games along with everyone else.

    The greatest friend of Israel is Iran - a country that funds Hizbollah, a group that goose steps and Hitler salutes on cue, screaming they will rain down 80,000 missiles on Israel - keeping Bi Bi in power and israeli's terrified.

    Iran has a military industrial complex just like Israel and both need them to stimulate their high technology sector.

    Lord Jacob Rothschild and "The Great Game", the "Grand Chessboard," and by the ignorence shown on this message board, we are all his pawns.
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  4. llloyd says: • Website

    I actually kind a agree with what you say. But how has this developed? Gaza because of the blockade has become a gigantic third world kind of prison compound. The inmates have launched a mass prison outbreak and their guards are shooting them down with intent not generally to kill them but to incapacitate them. What is the solution? Improve the conditions by removing the blockade except for weaponry. Rehabilitate the inmates until they could actually be let out. Maybe they could then go on a shopping spree in Tel Aviv. I checked the Lonely Planet report on Gaza. Lonely Planet does whatever it realistically can to encourage tourism. Are there shopping malls in Gaza as recent videos claimed? If they ever existed, they are gone. It really is a bombed out shit hole full of people approaching a mass mental break down.

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    True.

    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    Sans Hamas, rehabilitation will take a generation.
    , @anon

    What is the solution? Improve the conditions by removing the blockade except for weaponry. Rehabilitate the inmates until they could actually be let out. Maybe they could then go on a shopping spree in Tel Aviv.
     
    Thank goodness!!

    I thought I was the only one who noticed all those signs the Palestinians were waving:

    WE JUST WANT TO GO SHOPPING!!

    All we want is a trip to the Mall!!

    Walmart or Bust!

    brought a tear to me eye, it did.
    , @Caruthers
    The Gazans were forcibly expelled from lands their families had inhabited for centuries, and then forcibly quarantined for decades in a vast ghetto, a vast concentration camp, along with their children, and their children’s children, all for the crime of being of the wrong race, for the crime of having the wrong non-Jewish ancestry.

    The solution is to end the racist military blockade and allow them the same rights and freedoms as all others in historic Palestine.

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  5. Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It’s not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become ‘speech crimes’, carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    ‘Denying’ the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel’s on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose ‘national interests’ (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They’re real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran–a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US–is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there’s plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The ‘military-industrial complex’. And of course there’s Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

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    Who do I blame for this?
     
    I would include all the IQists (like at iSteve here at the UR) spreading their mantra which leads to a knee jerk reflex if not a conscious belief that lower IQ people always deserve what they get and thus do not deserve our compassion while on the other end of the IQ scale which presumably is populated by Jews nothing can't be done wrong.
    , @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.
    , @gsjackson
    On the subject of speech crimes, I'm wondering if a constitutional challenge has been mounted yet against this new South Carolina law criminalizing advocacy of the BDS movement. If such a challenge is unsuccessful, then the free speech clause of the First Amendment -- one of the pillars of American democracy -- is a dead letter.

    Back in the early '80s in a civil liberties class in law school I addressed some point about an expansive interpretation of the First Amendment and said it was held by every liberal arts professor at the university, assuming, as I did then, that they were uniformly ACLU type liberals. The professor corrected me: "That's not true. They're Marxists and Marcuseans."

    t took me a while to understand just what he meant, but it is clear now that (((Marxists))) and (((Marcuseans))) are sworn enemies of free speech, and no doubt are even more entrenched decades later in academia and the other propaganda venues.

    And by the way, thanks a heap, South Carolina, for your current contributions to our public life. Is there anybody out there worse than Graham and Haley?
    , @Jake
    If not for Anglo-Puritanism being a Judaizing heresy, and archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell having made alliance with Jews, inviting them back into England granting them special rights and privileges (doing so specifically to have the money needed to keep warring to destroy non-Anglo-Saxon white Christians and their local cultures), and the British Empire growing from that alliance to spread Judaizing culture around the globe, Jews never could have acquired the cultural and moral control of the US they have. And without the US replacing the UK as the Boss of the Globalist WASP-run, WASP-based Empire, Jews could not have the controls over the world they now do.

    WASP culture was absolutely necessary to getting us here. WASP culture is necessary to keeping this mess of horrors going.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem. They are twined.

    , @windwaves
    brilliant.
    Scary.
    , @anon

    Sure, there’s plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The ‘military-industrial complex’. And of course there’s Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.
     

    They are all one and the same, deep state = military industrial complex = Israel lobby = msm = jews. Trump is being subjugated thanks to his son-in-law, he's trying to fight his way out.
    , @Chu
    agree. In the NY Times this morning they are hailing the death of Philip Roth as 'the last of the great white males'.

    Wow, who knew and to talk about cultural appropriation...
    , @tac
    Agreed. The other side to take into account is the vast transfer of wealth, technology, military assets to Israel. And this is where one needs to pay close attention to the messianic angle (to be used for political, financial, military gain of Israel--at the expense of its hosts .... and keep this in mind, the existence and prosperity of Israel is more dependent on the Jews of the diaspora than that of the population in Israel itself).

    All the other distractions with the Obama Deep State, are just that, distractions ....

    Israel's aggressive behavior is prophesied in Hebrew Bible:
    Authored by: Laurent Guyenot


    "...The paradox is only apparent, because for Zionists, the Bible is not a religious text, but a textbook of history. And so it should be obvious to anybody paying attention that Israel’s behavior on the international scene cannot be understood without a deep inquiry into the Bible’s underlying ideology. Only by taking account of the biblical roots of Zionism can one understand why Zionism has never been a nationalist movement like others. It could not be, as Gilad Atzmon remarked, from the moment it defined itself as a Jewish movement, aimed at creating a “Jewish state”.[6] Jewish exceptionalism is a biblical concept that has no equivalent in any other ethnic or religious culture.
    ...
    The launching of the Iraq War was a decisive step toward that goal of a new world order headquartered in Jerusalem. It was the context for a “Jerusalem Summit” held in October 2003 in the highly symbolic King David Hotel, to seal an alliance between Jewish and Christian Zionists.

    The “Jerusalem Declaration” signed by its participants declared Jerusalem “the key to the harmony of civilizations,” replacing the United Nations that had become “a tribalized confederation hijacked by Third World dictatorships”:

    “Jerusalem’s spiritual and historical importance endows it with a special authority to become a center of world’s unity. [. . .] We believe that one of the objectives of Israel’s divinely-inspired rebirth is to make it the center of the new unity of the nations, which will lead to an era of peace and prosperity, foretold by the Prophets.”
    ...
    according to Deuteronomy Yahweh plans to deliver to Israel “seven nations greater and mightier than [it],” adding: “you must utterly destroy them; you shall make no covenant with them, and show no mercy to them."
     

    https://russia-insider.com/en/israels-aggressive-behavior-embodied-and-prophesied-hebrew-bible/ri22632

    See my other comments on the other thread starting with this one about the plan to build the third Temple:
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-messiah-is-here/#comment-2340971

    and this:

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/02/17/revealed-the-temple-mount-movements-goal-build-third-temple-ruins-al-aqsa/

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  6. Momus says:

    You could not know what the result of the warning fire was: a bruise or a wound.

    Getting hit with a rubber bullet in the leg will drop you like a bag of shit; as so many of these ‘kill’ vids show.

    If I was hit Palo I would be more worried about the possible injury complications caused by my brothers picking me up by the extremities and racing off with me.

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    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they've been brought to hospital.

    These facts have been consistently reported by eminent health professionals volunteering in Gaza:

    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Gaza-le-professeur-Oberlin-constate-les-blessures-des-Palestiniens-50968.html

    You are a piece of filth without a shred of humanity in you.
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    Lol at benthos PG’s hope for martyrdom at the hands of two badged thugs.

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    The way you are mis- and over-using 'benthos' is pretty funny,

    You cute little benthic basement-dwelling gronk, so adorable.
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  8. utu says:
    @mark green
    Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It's not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become 'speech crimes', carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    'Denying' the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel's on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose 'national interests' (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They're real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran--a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US--is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there's plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The 'military-industrial complex'. And of course there's Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    Who do I blame for this?

    I would include all the IQists (like at iSteve here at the UR) spreading their mantra which leads to a knee jerk reflex if not a conscious belief that lower IQ people always deserve what they get and thus do not deserve our compassion while on the other end of the IQ scale which presumably is populated by Jews nothing can’t be done wrong.

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    On the contrary, Steve and many of his commenters have stressed enabling people to find their own level, instead of vaulting them into positions for which they have no natural aptitude, and are consequently resentful and unhappy.
    , @Anon
    Average Israeli IQ is 94. Please note that all the hosanna in excelsious dei praises of high Jewish IQ apply only to Ashkenazi Jews, not Sephardi Mizrahi, or Persian jews

    I’ve never seen exactly where the proof of that high Ashkenazi IQ comes from. Only thing I’ve seen is a New York city 1920s gifted public school test that included goyim as well as Jewish kids who went to that school.
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  9. Momus says:
    @mark green
    Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It's not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become 'speech crimes', carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    'Denying' the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel's on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose 'national interests' (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They're real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran--a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US--is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there's plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The 'military-industrial complex'. And of course there's Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

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    Yeah, just ask them.
    , @Anonymous
    Not sure if you are serious or if you are trolling, but if you bring up the JQ in any capacity in the west you will be called an antisemite and be ruined.
    , @Wally
    said:
    "Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?"

    The fake & impossible '6,000,000 Jews & gas chambers' is all about Jew power. In fact that is why it was invented.
    Below is where free speech on the impossible 'holocaust' storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes. An obvious admission that the storyline doesn't stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.
    http://theday.co.uk/images/stories/2016/2016-12/2016-12-15_holocaust.png

    Revisionist Dr. Faurisson beaten:
    https://codoh.com/media/files/jhr-16-2-faurisson6.jpg
    Revisionist Michel Caignet beaten
    https://codoh.com/media/files/jhr-16-2-faurisson4.jpg
    Bombing attack on Revisionist Ernst Zundel's home
    https://codoh.com/media/files/jhr-16-2-faurisson3.jpg
    see much more: Jew Terror
    https://codoh.com/library/document/2662/?lang=en

    www.codoh.com
    , @Anon
    How do you say it is "the" driving force by any measure? And is there not a notable trend for the later generations of clever Jewish families that produced able scientists to produce lawyers and bankers instead?
    , @Moi
    Then how come in so many countries the "acceptable" narrative about the holocaust cannot be challenged without suffering a fine and/or imprisonment?
    , @Svigor
    If by "scientific endeavour" you mean "obfuscating and denying and vilifying the realities of HBD and race, and serially poisoning the well of race relations," then I concur.
    , @Grumbler
    Jews pushing for the elimination of free speech more than cancels out whatever good they claim they have accomplished in scientific endeavor.
    , @Incitatus
    “Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west…”

    Don’t forget proof: the Cherry Tomato. Mankind is in awe.
    , @Zio Please
    "Jewish intellectual power" is pure hype.

    By far the top ethnic group intellectually in America be all measures (standard tests, grades, etc.) are Asians.

    The Ivies is filled with undeserving Jewish students at the expense of Asian and white students who are not Jewish
    , @renfro

    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?
     
    Its always been off limits for politicians and now they are trying to extend it to everyone.
    But....its not gonna work...however much money the Jew men have its not enough to buy all of us.

    Criticize the Israeli Government, Or Criticize Individuals Who Put Israel First Ahead of the U.S., You're Breaking The Law. Goes Into Effect July 1 -- by J

    Never thought I'd see it from a Southern State, but thanks to a Representative in their State Legislature, those citizens of that state are having their 1st Amendment Rights squashed (even though the legislation claims not), if they dare criticize the Israeli Government or the actions of those who put Israel first ahead of the U.S., they are breaking their State law. Those who dare question Israel or question those who put Israel 1st ahead of the U.S., are labeled legally as a law breaker thanks to that particular state legislator.

    What state? South Carolina. Who is the state lawmaker attacking the 1st Amendment? State Representative Alan Clemmons.


    Clemmons initial bill was stalled in the state senate last year, so he attached his bill to the state budget bill of each chamber. South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster supported Clemmons' proposal, and urged the state senate to pass it. Keep in mind that Clemmon's bill only lasts for a year, and how far it goes beyond that depends on the outcry by the citizens of South Carolina who were blindsided and muffled by their state legislator and governor.
    Rep. Clemmons' legislation
    It appears that Representative Clemmons was rewarded like a little puppy getting a rawhide treat, Clemmons was one of those invited to the dedication of the new U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem party last week.
    Let's examine those particulars that were injected in South Carolina's budget bill, thanks to Rep. Clemmons:
    a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities;
    calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews; making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as a collective; accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, the state of Israel, or even for acts committed by non-Jews;
    accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust;
    accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interest of their own nations;
    using the symbols and images associated with classic anti-Semitism to characterize Israel or Israelis;
    drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis;
    blaming Israel for all inter-religious or political tensions;
    applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation;
    multilateral organizations focusing on Israel only for peace or human rights investigations;
    denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, and denying Israel the right to exist, provided, however, that criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic.
    (C) South Carolina public colleges and universities shall take into consideration the definition of anti-Semitism for purposes of determining whether the alleged practice was motivated by anti-Semitic intent when reviewing, investigating, or deciding whether there has been a violation of a college or university policy prohibiting discriminatory practices on the basis of religion.
    (D) Nothing in this proviso may be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States or Section 2, Article I of the South Carolina Constitution, 1895.
    How cannot such a piece of legislation I have to ask Rep. Clemmons not infringe on the 1st Amendment rights of his states' citizens? To dare to criticize the Nazi policies of the State Israel, is considered illegal by his bill. Doesn't such infringe on the 1st Amendment of both the U.S. and South Carolina?
    So to the 64 dollar conundrum, which other U.S. States will follow South Carolina's actions?
    The bar is now open for drinks and discussion.
    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/
    , @Sam J.
    "...Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west..."

    If Jews are driving the west anywhere it's into the ground.

    One of the reasons I consider the Jews a tribe of psychopaths. Continuously fabricated blatant lies.

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  10. Momus says:
    @Biff
    Sounds like the Iranians are more plugged into world affairs than Americans. The Yankee media has been streamlined leaving them completely isolated from the rest of the world.

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped? The crash of the dollar is the only thing I can think of.

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped?

    Duped about what?

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    everything mate because everything is dictated by jews or israeli firsters traitors
    , @Grumbler
    Momus, duped about the entire myth of Jews and their god; wars in the ME that have zero to do with the US being threatened but everything to do with Israel's lust for the Greater Israel project; the lies being pumped into the culture by the Jewish run media and entertainment; the holocaust; etc, etc, etc...
    , @Biff

    Duped about what?
     
    And he makes my point.


    Q: How do you keep a Pollack in suspense?





    A: I’ll tell you tomorrow.
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  11. Realist says:

    Phil, thank God you’re back on point. Your little girls club was apoplectic last week when you got off subject.

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  12. Trump’s disgraceful Zionist directed withdrawal from the Iran agreement must surely place the Europeans at a watershed moment.
    The EU has vast amounts of money & prestige invested in this agreement. Should the EU roll over on its back, like a fearful dog, in the face of US sanctions inspired aggressions, any sense of respect, of self respect for the EU will be impossible. It would represent one of the most naked expressions of Sovereign cowardness in history. It would make Munich look like bravery & statesmanship.
    And, of course, this all comes on top of many years of European cowardness (& Elite greed for US dollars). The US’s open, blatant snubbing of the Minsk agreement (US offensive weopons delivered to Kiev in last month) & support for the Ukraine Junta are just more evidence of European moral & political corruption.

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    Yet as a result, Israel & US ass kissing of "that shitty little country" is now being criticized like never before.
    A very good thing. Hmm.

    BTW, the Munich Agreement was a fair deal for all involved.
    Clearly you have not yet tossed away your Zionist indoctrination.

    www.codoh.com

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  13. @Cloak And Dagger
    Bravo! You are a very brave and righteous man, Phil Giraldi, and a trailblazer worthy of emulation. We are fortunate to have you!

    Bravo, and Brave and Righteous, and all that, but mostly what I’m thinking is ENVY!

    I wish I could have been there!

    Iran is so beautiful; the cause is so important; your advocacy is so deep-rooted and vital — I wish I could have witnessed the conference in real time.

    Thanks a million for the report, Phil, and I hope we will hear more about the conferees and the topic.

    Until then –

    Will Trump’s Pyrrhic Victory End with America’s Role As Global Bully?
    By Philip M. Giraldi

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49451.htm

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    I knew this would warm your cockles. ;) Let's hope there's a bootlegged record of the proceedings, because it seems links are suppressed. [Searching anything newhorizons.ir gets "website unavailable" notice. Also, "6th International Conference of Independent Thinkers and Artists" gets very limited results.]

    Any success with alternative search engines? I was looking for a list of speakers, at least. (Do you recognize the guys sitting with Phil? They look familiar.)

    This is a notorious conference. In 2014, Gareth Porter famously expressed regret for attending, citing the presence of anti-Semitic 911 truthers. "The Anti-Defamation League loudly attacked the conference for focusing on Zionist control of western media and the outsize influence of the Zionist Lobby in the US and around the world."
    https://dissidentvoice.org/2014/10/new-horizon-conference-meeting-of-minds-in-tehran/

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  14. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    It is not particularly a Trump issue but rather a Trump-Obama-Bush problem that has been festering ever since 9/11 if not before.

    Definitely way before the “Three Stooges” for Israel stole into the WH, with plenty of American Jewish money backing them.

    That Iranians still proclaim to like Americans shows us what a kind, forgiving and sensible people they are.

    From 1953 on, when our CIA and Britain’s MI6 overthrew the democratically elected Iranian President Mossadegh, for having the balls to ask that Iran’s oil resources be used to enhance Iran’s economy and not Western fat cats pockets, to installing the brutal Shah, whose SAVAK intelligence service turned into a brutal oppressor of the Iranians, with CIA-backing, leading to 26 years of murderous oppression, to the US Navy–while in Iranian territorial waters–shooting down Iran Air Flight 655, a huge Airbus 300, which the Navy claimed, or rather lied and said the radar signature showed it to be an Iranian Air Force F-14, to the US instigated Iraq invasion of Iran, a brutal war that saw our then buddy Saddam Hussein use American provided poison gas against Iranian troops, to the current endless rounds of punitive sanctions against Iran would make almost any nation hate the state that has attacked them relentlessly for over 65 years, but not the peace-loving Iranians.

    There is only ONE reason the Pentagon and POTUS are threatening Iran, and that reason is Israel and its control of the USG. Not only of our foreign policy, but many other areas, such as our MSM, banking, Hollywood and most of the huge, monolithic Internet companies thru their American sayanim, which is Yiddish term for an American Jew who is actually loyal to Israel, not the nation they live and work in.
    Control which they use to endlessly propagandize Americans into thinking Israel is our friend and ally, when in fact, Israel is one of our worst enemies, attacking us many times, and using their power over the MSM to make Americans think that all Muslims are crazed, knife-wielding jihadis, whose only desire is to kill Americans.

    Unless Americans wake up and realize that a hostile, malevolent foreign power is holding us hostage and using our money and troops to fulfill its fantasy of an Eretz Israel, which would stretch from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates, and from southern Turkey to northern Saudi Arabia, we will continue to see what’s left of our standing on the world stage diminish and our economy slowly implode, due to all those trillions spent to defend Apartheid Israel, while our nation’s infrastructure
    slowly disintegrates into 3rd world status.

    And the graves in our national cemeteries will grow, filled with American troops killed fighting and dying for Apartheid Israel.

    Trump controlled by Mossad – Part IV

    https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2018/05/13/trump-controlled-by-mossad-part-iv/

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  15. gsjackson says:
    @mark green
    Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It's not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become 'speech crimes', carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    'Denying' the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel's on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose 'national interests' (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They're real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran--a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US--is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there's plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The 'military-industrial complex'. And of course there's Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    On the subject of speech crimes, I’m wondering if a constitutional challenge has been mounted yet against this new South Carolina law criminalizing advocacy of the BDS movement. If such a challenge is unsuccessful, then the free speech clause of the First Amendment — one of the pillars of American democracy — is a dead letter.

    Back in the early ’80s in a civil liberties class in law school I addressed some point about an expansive interpretation of the First Amendment and said it was held by every liberal arts professor at the university, assuming, as I did then, that they were uniformly ACLU type liberals. The professor corrected me: “That’s not true. They’re Marxists and Marcuseans.”

    t took me a while to understand just what he meant, but it is clear now that (((Marxists))) and (((Marcuseans))) are sworn enemies of free speech, and no doubt are even more entrenched decades later in academia and the other propaganda venues.

    And by the way, thanks a heap, South Carolina, for your current contributions to our public life. Is there anybody out there worse than Graham and Haley?

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    And by the way, thanks a heap, South Carolina, for your current contributions to our public life. Is there anybody out there worse than Graham and Haley?
     
    McCain.

    But the other two are pretty awful.
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  16. geokat62 says:

    I had fully expected to be approached by two thugs with badges on arrival, but they didn’t show up. Maybe next time.

    LOL. They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil.

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    Sadly I think Giraldi is getting a little too old (and respected) for the Zio dominated American government to harass. I hope Phil has a good line of younger successors to take up the baton and that they have the intestinal fortitude to expect harassment from the controlled government.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    More so than Elie Wiesel, geokat's "Memory" intact & wrote: "They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil."

    Hi geo,

    Among tolerant native intellectuals, am grateful for P.G.'s conveyance of findings from Iran.

    You need no reminder, but Phil's article subtitle is very thoughtful, "Iranians want to be friends with Americans but Israel hates the idea." I will expand upon his insight a bit.

    Israel wanted all ZUS Senators to be friends with PreZident Trump's CIA Director-nominee, Gina Haspel. Turned out, the majority were!

    In contrast, Citizen Ray McGovern, with whom I like to consider myself as a vicarious (remote) "friend," was not chummy with ZUS Jewish Lobbies & Americans like CIA-employee Gina Haspel whose career fast-tracked because of her affinity for institutional torture programs.

    Well, geokat, turns out that when news broke about Mr. McGovern's awful fate while in attendance at Gina's limited Senate hearing, my fellow citizen, Thomas L. Friedman, happened to publish a NYT Op-Ed about how ZUS occupies "moral high ground" and China does not. (Zigh)

    I got miffed about another display of secular Jewish hypocrisy, and launched the missive (below) to my hometown, Scranton Times-Tribune.

    Apparently, the newspaper editors are my "friend" and they published my letter, this past Sunday. geokat -- Uh, please issue a "Citizen Pardon" for drawing attention to my meager act of unfriendliness to how Friends of Israel love when dissenters get "roughed up" for disobedience.

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune's corresponding picture, below?

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-theeditor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    Thanks to Phil & all my friends assembled here!
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  17. Jake says:

    The 2 thugs did not make themselves known to you at the airport, but you can rest assured that you are being monitored closely.

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  18. Jake says:
    @mark green
    Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It's not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become 'speech crimes', carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    'Denying' the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel's on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose 'national interests' (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They're real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran--a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US--is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there's plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The 'military-industrial complex'. And of course there's Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    If not for Anglo-Puritanism being a Judaizing heresy, and archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell having made alliance with Jews, inviting them back into England granting them special rights and privileges (doing so specifically to have the money needed to keep warring to destroy non-Anglo-Saxon white Christians and their local cultures), and the British Empire growing from that alliance to spread Judaizing culture around the globe, Jews never could have acquired the cultural and moral control of the US they have. And without the US replacing the UK as the Boss of the Globalist WASP-run, WASP-based Empire, Jews could not have the controls over the world they now do.

    WASP culture was absolutely necessary to getting us here. WASP culture is necessary to keeping this mess of horrors going.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem. They are twined.

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    What WASP problem?

    You're making it up to distract from Jew terror tactics.

    www.codoh.com
    , @anon
    Sounds like what you're saying is Jews are a parasitic species that cannot thrive outside its host. The two questions are:

    1) can you kill the parasites without killing the host? and

    2) can you kill the host without killing the parasites?

    Both are possible.

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  19. …the United States is no longer interested in cooperating with anyone to reduce the risk of war.

    It’s about time that people begin to understand that concept; the US cacocracy probably never was interested in any of that, and worse, the scum has actively done everything it could to provoke conflict while mouthing platitudes of peaceful intent in public for over a century.

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    Everyone except Vladimir Putin understands it.
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  20. This will include mechanisms to work around American sanctions, to include buying Iranian oil with Euros instead of dollars and selling to Iran in ways that avoid U.S. banks as conduits.

    And this time I think they know what they’re up against. The Nazis were ahead of their time and successfully accomplished something similar, but were crushed by Bolshie supporting nutjobs, mostly based in New Yoik and London.

    I hope, but doubt, that saner brains prevail this time.

    Excellent article, PG. Too bad the trolls flock here with their always mindless mantras but at least their hideous claims, always unsupported by either truth or reason, are presented for all the world to see and we cannot say we didn’t know what unhinged hyenas they always have been.

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  21. Z-man says:
    @geokat62

    I had fully expected to be approached by two thugs with badges on arrival, but they didn’t show up. Maybe next time.
     
    LOL. They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil.

    Sadly I think Giraldi is getting a little too old (and respected) for the Zio dominated American government to harass. I hope Phil has a good line of younger successors to take up the baton and that they have the intestinal fortitude to expect harassment from the controlled government.

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    Sadly I think Giraldi is getting a little too old..:
     
    Compared to Ray McGovern (born in 1939), Phil (born in 1946) is a young whippersnapper!
    , @Momus
    He's a benthos in a tiny oxygen poor ecosystem. No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.
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  22. Iranians want to be friends with Americans

    Of course they do.

    Iran (Persia) is a tiny, poor country that’s entirely unable to defend itself from the big boys who have long done everything possible to keep the country backward and under their bootheels. We can now add more than 100 years to Shuster’s claim….

    “Persia has suffered in many ways from the foreigner during
    the past thirty years.”

    W. Morgan Shuster, The Strangling of Persia, 1912, pg 315

    Shuster was the leader of a group of Americans who, at the request of the Persians (Iranians) went there to help modernize the country. After 8 months he and the rest were booted out of Persia by the Russians and Brits.

    Subsequently the “Allies,” three months prior the attack on Pearl Harbor sunk or disabled neutral Iran’s entire navy (of around six “ships” if I remember correctly) in a surprise attack, occupied the country, confiscated the oil resources and refineries, then established the Persian Corridor which was used to ship military supplies to Stalin. The supplies included everything from ammot to locomotives and planes and was enough to supply 60 Soviet divisions.

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    I seriously doubt that Iran is still defenseless.
    Things have changed.

    Cheers.

    , @L.K
    Hey Jacques,

    Yes, Iran has been suffering at the hands of the major imperialist powers for a long time, 150 years easy...

    I only disagree that Iran is a tiny and defenseless country; it is a large country with a large population(now) and it is far from defenseless... which, in the 1940s, it obviously was, of course. The Brits and Soviets invaded Iran in August 1941 & quickly overran Iran's tiny forces.

    Also, despite all the sanctions since the 1979 revolution, Iran has modernized itself, this was admitted recently even by that neocon rag, the Economist.

    As Lebanese journalist Sharmine Narwani, who writes for TAC(for how long?), tweeted:‏

    In ONE year (2015), #Iran moved up 6 places in the Human Devt Index (HDI) - according to UNDP "one of the highest increases for any country in the past 8 years." Btwn 1980-2012, Iran averaged double the global growth rate. The Revolution, in a nutshell.
     
    I'm confident the new criminal ZUS sanctions against Iran, which constitute acts of war if you think about it, will fail again... maybe it'll even help get the Rouhani's neoliberals out... these people are damaging and undermining Iran.
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  23. @utu

    Who do I blame for this?
     
    I would include all the IQists (like at iSteve here at the UR) spreading their mantra which leads to a knee jerk reflex if not a conscious belief that lower IQ people always deserve what they get and thus do not deserve our compassion while on the other end of the IQ scale which presumably is populated by Jews nothing can't be done wrong.

    On the contrary, Steve and many of his commenters have stressed enabling people to find their own level, instead of vaulting them into positions for which they have no natural aptitude, and are consequently resentful and unhappy.

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  24. Another Shuster quote…Let’s see how well the trolls connect the dots.:

    Throughout the entire controversy between the Persian Government and the two Powers [Russia and Britain] there has never been more than a weak pretense that what was being done was to benefit the Persian people. Every utterance and claim has been based on a cynical selfishnessthat shocks all sense of justice. It is in the pursuit of “Russian interests” or “British trade” that innocent people have been slaughtered wholesale. Never a word about the millions of beings whose lives have been jeopardized, whose rights have been trampled underfoot and whose property has been confiscated.

    Not a single line in these smug documents would ever lead one to believe that Persia was a friendly nation whose sovereignty had been actually proclaimed and guaranteed by the two Powers who destroyed it in December, 1911.

    W. Morgan Shuster, The Strangling of Persia, 1912, pg 331.

    Deja vu all over again?

    God bless the people of Iran, and remember how the German people were treated, and how the crimes against them, starvation and humiliation, were repeated.

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  25. Googled New Horizon AND Iran and the link came right up. Useful idiot is right. Imagine! Taking an 8 month-old infant with a diagnosed heart defect to the Gaza fence where it breathed teargas and died, murdered by the Zionists.

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    Useful idiot is right.
     
    The Izzy first crowd should know. They've had a lot of experience playing dupe to the money bag gangsters that own, operate and profit from the criminal state of Israel.

    They're cut from the same bloody, shitty, utopian tissue paper as the Bolshie firsters who were flushed down the sewer when their usefulness ended.

    The Red millionaire "Willi" Mϋnzenberg, Stalin's propagandist called the process of duping fools, "rabbit-breeding," but that was before he himself was finished off by Stalin! Ya gotta love it!

    Bon voyage, Bunnies, and godspeed to ya!

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  26. America is a colony of Israel and has been under Zionist control for over 100 years starting in 1913 with the creation of the Zionist owned FED and then the Zionists fastened the IRS on Americans to make sure we would pay for the wars that the Zionist bankers had planned for America starting with WWI and on down through the Mideast.

    911 was done by Israel and the zionist controlled deep state in the U.S. and the fact that they got away with proves the zionist total control of America, and 911 was typical of the zionists as that is what they do ie cause wars and destroy countries and societies and they will are destroying America.

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    Desert Fox, it would be too complimentary to call you a Jew hater. You are self deluded.

    Israel doesn't control the US. Jews are 1.7% of the country and shrinking. Those serving as elected representatives have to win their votes from a majority of non Jews. Are all these gentiles willing stooges of the Zionists?

    It is amazing the Jews of 100 years ago were able to anticipate future wars so precisely. Sad to say, our foolish middle eastern wars were designed and implemented by gentiles.

    All knowing and all seeing Jews have ruined your wretched life? Try getting a girlfriend and a job. As a white man I am ashamed to see a fellow white man crawl (maybe you are an aborigine). Dislike Jews if you must but stop giving them imaginary super powers. You need psychological help.

    Plenty of Jews died on 911. They are overrepresented in New York.
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  27. iffen says:
    @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.

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    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp where everything is controlled by Israel? The "border" that Israel claims, is not a border at all, but is an Israel-imposed "demarcation line"...
    , @Zumbuddi
    Compared to Israel, Hamas and the Palestinia s are on a fast-track.

    Jews started colonizing Palestine at latest by 1910.
    In 1930, the project was still sparse and in danger of financial collspse.

    British sponsorship and protection from 1917 to 1948 provided the security guarantee rich Jews required before investing in the project --ideology is one thing but busi eds is business.
    While under the British security blamket, mansions were built for Chain Weizmann & the Schockens; banking was established and a hospital, and the beginnings of Hebrew University.
    In addition to the British providing security in the period 1917 - 1948, Germans provided organizational, cultural and intellectual talent and expertise as well as an infusion of capital. This carried Israel for a time, but the Talmudist Polish Jews who took over Israel never, in all their history, developed the ability to get along with others, not even other Jews.

    Based on ancient as well as more recent bonds among Iran, Germany, and Jews, Iran served as Israel's security "pillar" 1948 - 1979, Iran sharing its oil wealth with still-struggling Israel. By the mid-1960s, Jews opened a major artery into the German body politic/money vault and has vampires on that revenue stream ever since.

    Still, and with all these advantages and supports, well into the 1980s, Israel had not achieved cultural cohesion nor economic vigor.

    Only with the injection of Russian brain power, created by Russian taxpayers then subsidized to migrate by American taxpayers -- only then did Israel start to develop a sound evonomy. "Startup Nation" is very young and was NOT a home-grown phenomenon; there are serious doubts whether Israel's education system can equal the capacities migrated in from Germany and Russia.

    Now, what has Hamas accomished, and what infusions of aid, security, brain power have the Palestinians enjoyed?

    Can you, iffen, construct a. one-to-one matching list of gifts and benefits to Palestine that parallels those to Israel?

    Or is the situation quite the reverse, as Paul C Roberts wrote -- If Gaza builds a house, Israel destroys it; Gaza raises a child, Israel kills him; Gaza elects a leader, Israel vilified and undermines him.

    All things considered, iffen, for perseverance, for reourcefulness, for character and grace, Palestinians earned fullest accolades.

    Israel is an abject failure,
    , @peterAUS
    Agree.

    Looking at just those 3 videos it's obvious that they've learnt that art well.
    It's the same method, actually, used by "progs" all over the world.

    It's almost fascinating to see Israelis, Jews, of all people on defensive here.
    Cynic would say that the inventors and masters are getting out mastered, or karma is a bitch.

    At the same time, well, Israelis don't budge here as most of the rest and that's also interesting to see.
    I am positive that a lot of people on the "state side" watching this, anywhere in the world can't help but envying Israelis on the ground there. "If only I could do that, just for one day....".

    I try (or so I say) to constantly switch positions when thinking about all that, trying to find a solution to all that. Nothing........

    Immovable object and unstoppable force.

    This could get worse.
    Feels as an experiment.
    , @anonymous
    It wasn't effective propaganda, it's just that simpering imbeciles like Giraldi, the anti-Jew pinheads on Unz, the EU, UN, etc... blindly accept it as truth because they suffer from Israel Derangement Syndrome. Much like Trump Derangement Syndrome. Here's what Hamas has to say about the "massacre" -

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/middleeast/hamas-members-gaza-deaths/index.html

    In truth, the vast majority of "victims" are Hamas' own terrorists. The other "victims" are military aged males, some of them from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group.

    When Israel was created and Arabs were dispossessed, even more Jews were dispossessed from Arab lands. Muslims have no intention of compensating those Jews and, certainly, the Turks showed the precedent of how to treat infidels in their genocide of 3 million Armenians and Greeks. The fake Palestinians should have been absorbed by adjacent Muslim countries.

    The sane Arab states will put pressure on the "Palestinians" to settle.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-must-make-peace-or-shut-up-saudi-crown-prince-said-to-tell-us-jews/

    Particularly, since the GCC is trashing everyone's asses and that includes Iran. The EU will not go against the US regarding Iran. The EU has been on the side of evil for a long time - for the Paris Climate Accord, against Brexit, for unlimited 3rd world immigration, against free speech, for TPP. Supporting the Iran Deal is evil as well.
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  28. Momus says:
    @llloyd
    I actually kind a agree with what you say. But how has this developed? Gaza because of the blockade has become a gigantic third world kind of prison compound. The inmates have launched a mass prison outbreak and their guards are shooting them down with intent not generally to kill them but to incapacitate them. What is the solution? Improve the conditions by removing the blockade except for weaponry. Rehabilitate the inmates until they could actually be let out. Maybe they could then go on a shopping spree in Tel Aviv. I checked the Lonely Planet report on Gaza. Lonely Planet does whatever it realistically can to encourage tourism. Are there shopping malls in Gaza as recent videos claimed? If they ever existed, they are gone. It really is a bombed out shit hole full of people approaching a mass mental break down.

    True.

    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    Sans Hamas, rehabilitation will take a generation.

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    Another Glue Sniffing Zio Hasbarat Clown eh.
    , @Art
    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    What dishonesty!

    Jews are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    It is amazing what little respect the Jews have for truth and reality. They insult us.

    Getting in people’s face and forcing an obvious lying on them - is major stupid – but all the Jews do it (95%).

    There are 7,000,000,000 people who do not believe this guy (voted at the UN).

    A Jew by culture is a greedy dishonest jerk – only when he acts in a Western manner does he achieve success.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Maintain Hope --- Seek Idealism --- Art
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  29. Pindos says:
    @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    Yeah, just ask them.

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    Everyone hates the Jews because they're so fabulous.
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  30. Anon[452] • Disclaimer says:

    More takkiyah and kitman from Iran-firster Phil G . I would like to see a financial disclosure regarding monies and other good and valuable considerations paid to Phil G from the Iran regime or their contemporaries .

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  31. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    Not sure if you are serious or if you are trolling, but if you bring up the JQ in any capacity in the west you will be called an antisemite and be ruined.

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  32. anarchyst says:
    @iffen
    I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.

    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp where everything is controlled by Israel? The “border” that Israel claims, is not a border at all, but is an Israel-imposed “demarcation line”…

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    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp ...
     
    I wonder if that troll will understand your point. Iran and many other small political entities have always had a tough time trying to maintain themselves, let alone improve themselves, when murderous, treacherous, moneyed goons have always been eager and able to get fools to beat them down.
    , @iffen
    I thought that my comment was very clear. Nation building skills required. Propaganda skills are only one small part.
    , @Grumbler
    anarchyst, well said.
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  33. Hamas is a MOSSAD front, and acts as an agent provocateur for Israel to cause acts of aggression to be blamed to be blamed on the Palestinians and to give Israel the excuse to attack Palestine.

    The same agenda is used against Iran and Syria where attacks by Israel on its self by Hamas is used as an excuse to attack Syrian and Iranian forces, similar to Hitler having German troops attacking a German radio station and blaming Poland, typical false flag.

    See Steve Pieczenik Talks.com and Ron Paul and Dr. Alan Sabrosky all of whom have said Hamas is a Mossad front, also see Veteranstoday.com.

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    said:
    "similar to Hitler having German troops attacking a German radio station and blaming Poland, typical false flag."

    Wrong, very much so, pure propaganda. No one even heard of it until 1945, yet it supposedly happened in 1939.

    see:
    The Gleiwitz “False Flag” Incident is Pure Fiction
    https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction
    and:
    THE MYTH OF THE FAKE GERMAN ATTACK ON THE GLEIWITZ RADIO STATION
    https://www.cwporter.com/gleiwitz.htm

    , @ChuckOrloski
    DESERT FOX wrote: "See Steve Pieczenik Talks.com and Ron Paul and Dr. Alan Sabrosky all of whom have said Hamas is a Mossad front, also see Veteranstoday.com."

    Hi DESERT FOX,

    Above, as you know, that to what you & others say is frowned upon by Palestinian Resistance "idealists."

    However, not so with veteran CIA/Mossad-machination watchers.

    They love the advantage of "plausible deniability."

    The majority of U.R. commenters are anonymous but for snappy "screen names." In your case, DESERT FOX, I have no idea what "Front" you fight in.

    But as my comment "Rules of Engagement" lend me to respect your offering, I will lend the following reinforcement to your interesting viewpoint:

    In John Le Carre's fiction-novel, "The Little Drummer Girl," one gains insight as to how tricky (deceptive) Mossad-tactics routinely get.

    First though, I offer personal thought that Israel's "Big Game" target is the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the subsequent shooting of Palestinian protestors is "Small Game," provocative & always in-season!

    In Le Carre's "The Little Drummer Girl," the Chief Mossad officer, Kurtz, with a grin, advised comrades thusly, "You want to catch the lion, first you tether the goat." *

    As the world knows, the abused "goat" Palestinians are tethered in West Bank and Gaza Strip. And the mighty western Zionist powers, along with perhaps Russia, know that Iran is the "lion" which must be either tamed or killed.

    Thanks, DESERT FOX!

    *F.y.i., In Christopher Bollyn's book "Solving 9/11," Le Carre's novel is discussed and considered very instructive.
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  34. Ockam’s Razor, Israel wants to destabilise any country in the ME that it does not control.
    So only Saudi Arabia can be allowed to exist.

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    Do you mean "destroy" when you write "destabilise"?. Otherwise your logic is puzzling.
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  35. geokat62 says:
    @Z-man
    Sadly I think Giraldi is getting a little too old (and respected) for the Zio dominated American government to harass. I hope Phil has a good line of younger successors to take up the baton and that they have the intestinal fortitude to expect harassment from the controlled government.

    Sadly I think Giraldi is getting a little too old..:

    Compared to Ray McGovern (born in 1939), Phil (born in 1946) is a young whippersnapper!

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  36. Marcus says:
    @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.

    Western Europeans would just let them in

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  37. turtle says:

    “has enough bullets for everyone. If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem.”

    As we know, killing is relatively easy.
    However, corpse disposal can be a major problem.
    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.
    Clearly, the facilities are not yet in place to do so.

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    "Liquidation of Gaza . . . would require didposal of 2 000 000 corpses."

    Another clear indication how much smarter Jews are than anybody else, especially Germans.

    Dumb Germans hauled millions of Jews thousands of miles to specially constructed, equipped and manned facilities to gas then cremate then bury then dig up and cremate again. All they got for their efforts was soap and lampshades. (Who has that many lamps anyway?)

    Jews, on the other hand, shoot 'em in situ and let the dying bury the dead.
    Spiff Spott.

    , @anon

    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.
    Clearly, the facilities are not yet in place to do so.
     
    Such facilities have been in place since WWII, one would say the Jews are quite familiar with them.
    , @Carroll Price

    As we know, killing is relatively easy.
    However, corpse disposal can be a major problem.
    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.

     

    Well now, ain't it a shame the Nazis failed to provide a single clue as to how they went about killing and disposing of 6 million Jews without leaving a trace of remains.
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  38. Wally says:
    @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    said:
    “Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?”

    [MORE]

    The fake & impossible ’6,000,000 Jews & gas chambers’ is all about Jew power. In fact that is why it was invented.
    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes. An obvious admission that the storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.

    Revisionist Dr. Faurisson beaten:

    Revisionist Michel Caignet beaten

    Bombing attack on Revisionist Ernst Zundel’s home

    see much more: Jew Terror

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2662/?lang=en

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history - it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn't stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don't think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

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  39. Wally says:
    @Jake
    If not for Anglo-Puritanism being a Judaizing heresy, and archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell having made alliance with Jews, inviting them back into England granting them special rights and privileges (doing so specifically to have the money needed to keep warring to destroy non-Anglo-Saxon white Christians and their local cultures), and the British Empire growing from that alliance to spread Judaizing culture around the globe, Jews never could have acquired the cultural and moral control of the US they have. And without the US replacing the UK as the Boss of the Globalist WASP-run, WASP-based Empire, Jews could not have the controls over the world they now do.

    WASP culture was absolutely necessary to getting us here. WASP culture is necessary to keeping this mess of horrors going.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem. They are twined.

    What WASP problem?

    You’re making it up to distract from Jew terror tactics.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Which is exactly what a smart Jew, or person directed by smart Jews, would say to deflect from the partnership. We have what we have because of the natural, inevitable flow of culture from the Anglo-Saxon Puritan Judaizing heresy. We have what we have precisely because of Oliver Cromwell making alliance with Jews, and doing it specifically to wage war on non-WASP white Christians.

    Nothing has changed since then, save that in recent decades it has become clear than the once junior partner, banking partner, Jews have supplanted the WASPs as acting senior partner in the alliance. But the WASP-Jewish alliance remains, and it acts always to further destroy whatever is left of historic Christendom and its peoples. The British Empire took the WASP-Jewish alliance around the globe and forced millions upon millions to bow before it. The Yanks took over running the worldwide WASP-Jewish alliance and are now even more insistent that the whole world bow to it.

    Without the WASP problem, there would be no Jewish problem that could not be handled locally and rather easily.
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  40. @geokat62

    I had fully expected to be approached by two thugs with badges on arrival, but they didn’t show up. Maybe next time.
     
    LOL. They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil.

    More so than Elie Wiesel, geokat’s “Memory” intact & wrote: “They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil.”

    Hi geo,

    Among tolerant native intellectuals, am grateful for P.G.’s conveyance of findings from Iran.

    You need no reminder, but Phil’s article subtitle is very thoughtful, “Iranians want to be friends with Americans but Israel hates the idea.” I will expand upon his insight a bit.

    Israel wanted all ZUS Senators to be friends with PreZident Trump’s CIA Director-nominee, Gina Haspel. Turned out, the majority were!

    In contrast, Citizen Ray McGovern, with whom I like to consider myself as a vicarious (remote) “friend,” was not chummy with ZUS Jewish Lobbies & Americans like CIA-employee Gina Haspel whose career fast-tracked because of her affinity for institutional torture programs.

    Well, geokat, turns out that when news broke about Mr. McGovern’s awful fate while in attendance at Gina’s limited Senate hearing, my fellow citizen, Thomas L. Friedman, happened to publish a NYT Op-Ed about how ZUS occupies “moral high ground” and China does not. (Zigh)

    I got miffed about another display of secular Jewish hypocrisy, and launched the missive (below) to my hometown, Scranton Times-Tribune.

    Apparently, the newspaper editors are my “friend” and they published my letter, this past Sunday. geokat — Uh, please issue a “Citizen Pardon” for drawing attention to my meager act of unfriendliness to how Friends of Israel love when dissenters get “roughed up” for disobedience.

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune’s corresponding picture, below?

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-theeditor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    Thanks to Phil & all my friends assembled here!

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    Bravo, Chuck!

    ...pole-climber Stormy Daniels.
     
    You mean Stinky Stormy, the pole-climbing polepussycat?

    Stinky for Prez! ;)

    , @SolontoCroesus
    What a brilliant letter, Chuck Orloski!

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-the-editor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    You juxtaposed Tom Friedman's hypocritical allusions to censorship in China with the facts of censorship carried out in the US Senate when armed officers of the Law manhandled to the ground 78-year old Ray McGovern, in order to protect and even promote CIA (((torturer))) Gina Haspel.

    Congratulations, Chuck; very well done.
    , @geokat62

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune’s corresponding picture, below?
     
    A picture’s worth a thousand words, Chuck... and this picture depicts democracy in action in today’s Weimerica:

    https://www.sott.net/image/s23/466841/large/5af32a48dda4c84d678b464f.jpg

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  41. Wally says:
    @animalogic
    Trump's disgraceful Zionist directed withdrawal from the Iran agreement must surely place the Europeans at a watershed moment.
    The EU has vast amounts of money & prestige invested in this agreement. Should the EU roll over on its back, like a fearful dog, in the face of US sanctions inspired aggressions, any sense of respect, of self respect for the EU will be impossible. It would represent one of the most naked expressions of Sovereign cowardness in history. It would make Munich look like bravery & statesmanship.
    And, of course, this all comes on top of many years of European cowardness (& Elite greed for US dollars). The US's open, blatant snubbing of the Minsk agreement (US offensive weopons delivered to Kiev in last month) & support for the Ukraine Junta are just more evidence of European moral & political corruption.

    Yet as a result, Israel & US ass kissing of “that shitty little country” is now being criticized like never before.
    A very good thing. Hmm.

    BTW, the Munich Agreement was a fair deal for all involved.
    Clearly you have not yet tossed away your Zionist indoctrination.

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  42. anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:

    would mean a flight from dollars as the world reserve currency. The reduced acceptability of the dollar in turn

    That’s pretty much the real, silent threat to the US in the longer term. The US can do what it wants because it can afford to do so, showering dollars everywhere to get it’s way. It’s backed by oil and the economic, political and military might of the US. The US’s ham-handedness and tendency towards diktat may boomerang on it. Were the dollar to lose it’s reserve status it would shrink it’s economic power far below the current level. War would be the answer to prevent that from happening, against Iran or almost any other country. A country will usually fight to keep from being toppled from it’s preeminent position.

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    A country will usually fight to keep from being toppled from it’s preeminent position.
     
    Probably more precisely stated as, "A country's moronic rulers will usually dupe their subjects to fight to keep from being toppled from their preeminent position."
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  43. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    Iranians want to be friends with Americans
     
    Of course they do.

    Iran (Persia) is a tiny, poor country that’s entirely unable to defend itself from the big boys who have long done everything possible to keep the country backward and under their bootheels. We can now add more than 100 years to Shuster's claim....

    “Persia has suffered in many ways from the foreigner during
    the past thirty years.”


    W. Morgan Shuster, The Strangling of Persia, 1912, pg 315

    Shuster was the leader of a group of Americans who, at the request of the Persians (Iranians) went there to help modernize the country. After 8 months he and the rest were booted out of Persia by the Russians and Brits.

    Subsequently the "Allies," three months prior the attack on Pearl Harbor sunk or disabled neutral Iran's entire navy (of around six "ships" if I remember correctly) in a surprise attack, occupied the country, confiscated the oil resources and refineries, then established the Persian Corridor which was used to ship military supplies to Stalin. The supplies included everything from ammot to locomotives and planes and was enough to supply 60 Soviet divisions.

    I seriously doubt that Iran is still defenseless.
    Things have changed.

    Cheers.

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    I seriously doubt that Iran is still defenseless.
    Things have changed.

    Cheers.
     
    Cheers to you , sir!

    Now, if you'd elaborate and substantiate...
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  44. Momus says:
    @Z-man
    Sadly I think Giraldi is getting a little too old (and respected) for the Zio dominated American government to harass. I hope Phil has a good line of younger successors to take up the baton and that they have the intestinal fortitude to expect harassment from the controlled government.

    He’s a benthos in a tiny oxygen poor ecosystem. No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

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    So if the elites do not care for the truth then no one else should care either?
    , @jacques sheete

    No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.
     
    Mo-muss doesn't care, blah blah blah...therefore mo-muss admits she's no one who matters.

    PS: We already knew that.

    , @chris

    No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.
     
    errr, but why do you then, Einsteen ? Your self-deprecation is very understated.
    , @Carroll Price
    Everyone except you, apparently.
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  45. Wally says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Hamas is a MOSSAD front, and acts as an agent provocateur for Israel to cause acts of aggression to be blamed to be blamed on the Palestinians and to give Israel the excuse to attack Palestine.

    The same agenda is used against Iran and Syria where attacks by Israel on its self by Hamas is used as an excuse to attack Syrian and Iranian forces, similar to Hitler having German troops attacking a German radio station and blaming Poland, typical false flag.

    See Steve Pieczenik Talks.com and Ron Paul and Dr. Alan Sabrosky all of whom have said Hamas is a Mossad front, also see Veteranstoday.com.

    said:
    “similar to Hitler having German troops attacking a German radio station and blaming Poland, typical false flag.”

    Wrong, very much so, pure propaganda. No one even heard of it until 1945, yet it supposedly happened in 1939.

    see:
    The Gleiwitz “False Flag” Incident is Pure Fiction

    https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction

    and:
    THE MYTH OF THE FAKE GERMAN ATTACK ON THE GLEIWITZ RADIO STATION

    https://www.cwporter.com/gleiwitz.htm

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    I stand by what I said, it a fact and no amount of disinformation can change it.
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  46. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    How do you say it is “the” driving force by any measure? And is there not a notable trend for the later generations of clever Jewish families that produced able scientists to produce lawyers and bankers instead?

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  47. @Anonymouse
    Googled New Horizon AND Iran and the link came right up. Useful idiot is right. Imagine! Taking an 8 month-old infant with a diagnosed heart defect to the Gaza fence where it breathed teargas and died, murdered by the Zionists.

    Useful idiot is right.

    The Izzy first crowd should know. They’ve had a lot of experience playing dupe to the money bag gangsters that own, operate and profit from the criminal state of Israel.

    They’re cut from the same bloody, shitty, utopian tissue paper as the Bolshie firsters who were flushed down the sewer when their usefulness ended.

    The Red millionaire “Willi” Mϋnzenberg, Stalin’s propagandist called the process of duping fools, “rabbit-breeding,” but that was before he himself was finished off by Stalin! Ya gotta love it!

    Bon voyage, Bunnies, and godspeed to ya!

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  48. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    Your “inconclusive” is rubbish. If you can’t apply as a matter of morality the simple rules which apply to a common law defence to a murder charge of self defence then you ought to switch on your brain and connect it up too to a conscience. Why not wait till someone breaks through the fence and then let him (them) have it with machine guns if you do think serious violence is needed?

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  49. @anonymous

    would mean a flight from dollars as the world reserve currency. The reduced acceptability of the dollar in turn
     
    That's pretty much the real, silent threat to the US in the longer term. The US can do what it wants because it can afford to do so, showering dollars everywhere to get it's way. It's backed by oil and the economic, political and military might of the US. The US's ham-handedness and tendency towards diktat may boomerang on it. Were the dollar to lose it's reserve status it would shrink it's economic power far below the current level. War would be the answer to prevent that from happening, against Iran or almost any other country. A country will usually fight to keep from being toppled from it's preeminent position.

    A country will usually fight to keep from being toppled from it’s preeminent position.

    Probably more precisely stated as, “A country’s moronic rulers will usually dupe their subjects to fight to keep from being toppled from their preeminent position.”

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  50. @jilles dykstra
    Ockam's Razor, Israel wants to destabilise any country in the ME that it does not control.
    So only Saudi Arabia can be allowed to exist.

    Do you mean “destroy” when you write “destabilise”?. Otherwise your logic is puzzling.

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  51. @ChuckOrloski
    More so than Elie Wiesel, geokat's "Memory" intact & wrote: "They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil."

    Hi geo,

    Among tolerant native intellectuals, am grateful for P.G.'s conveyance of findings from Iran.

    You need no reminder, but Phil's article subtitle is very thoughtful, "Iranians want to be friends with Americans but Israel hates the idea." I will expand upon his insight a bit.

    Israel wanted all ZUS Senators to be friends with PreZident Trump's CIA Director-nominee, Gina Haspel. Turned out, the majority were!

    In contrast, Citizen Ray McGovern, with whom I like to consider myself as a vicarious (remote) "friend," was not chummy with ZUS Jewish Lobbies & Americans like CIA-employee Gina Haspel whose career fast-tracked because of her affinity for institutional torture programs.

    Well, geokat, turns out that when news broke about Mr. McGovern's awful fate while in attendance at Gina's limited Senate hearing, my fellow citizen, Thomas L. Friedman, happened to publish a NYT Op-Ed about how ZUS occupies "moral high ground" and China does not. (Zigh)

    I got miffed about another display of secular Jewish hypocrisy, and launched the missive (below) to my hometown, Scranton Times-Tribune.

    Apparently, the newspaper editors are my "friend" and they published my letter, this past Sunday. geokat -- Uh, please issue a "Citizen Pardon" for drawing attention to my meager act of unfriendliness to how Friends of Israel love when dissenters get "roughed up" for disobedience.

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune's corresponding picture, below?

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-theeditor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    Thanks to Phil & all my friends assembled here!

    Bravo, Chuck!

    …pole-climber Stormy Daniels.

    You mean Stinky Stormy, the pole-climbing polepussycat?

    Stinky for Prez! ;)

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  52. @anarchyst
    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp where everything is controlled by Israel? The "border" that Israel claims, is not a border at all, but is an Israel-imposed "demarcation line"...

    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp …

    I wonder if that troll will understand your point. Iran and many other small political entities have always had a tough time trying to maintain themselves, let alone improve themselves, when murderous, treacherous, moneyed goons have always been eager and able to get fools to beat them down.

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    Correction to my correction; you don't know jack shit.
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  53. Zumbuddi says:
    @iffen
    I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.

    Compared to Israel, Hamas and the Palestinia s are on a fast-track.

    Jews started colonizing Palestine at latest by 1910.
    In 1930, the project was still sparse and in danger of financial collspse.

    British sponsorship and protection from 1917 to 1948 provided the security guarantee rich Jews required before investing in the project –ideology is one thing but busi eds is business.
    While under the British security blamket, mansions were built for Chain Weizmann & the Schockens; banking was established and a hospital, and the beginnings of Hebrew University.
    In addition to the British providing security in the period 1917 – 1948, Germans provided organizational, cultural and intellectual talent and expertise as well as an infusion of capital. This carried Israel for a time, but the Talmudist Polish Jews who took over Israel never, in all their history, developed the ability to get along with others, not even other Jews.

    Based on ancient as well as more recent bonds among Iran, Germany, and Jews, Iran served as Israel’s security “pillar” 1948 – 1979, Iran sharing its oil wealth with still-struggling Israel. By the mid-1960s, Jews opened a major artery into the German body politic/money vault and has vampires on that revenue stream ever since.

    Still, and with all these advantages and supports, well into the 1980s, Israel had not achieved cultural cohesion nor economic vigor.

    Only with the injection of Russian brain power, created by Russian taxpayers then subsidized to migrate by American taxpayers — only then did Israel start to develop a sound evonomy. “Startup Nation” is very young and was NOT a home-grown phenomenon; there are serious doubts whether Israel’s education system can equal the capacities migrated in from Germany and Russia.

    Now, what has Hamas accomished, and what infusions of aid, security, brain power have the Palestinians enjoyed?

    Can you, iffen, construct a. one-to-one matching list of gifts and benefits to Palestine that parallels those to Israel?

    Or is the situation quite the reverse, as Paul C Roberts wrote — If Gaza builds a house, Israel destroys it; Gaza raises a child, Israel kills him; Gaza elects a leader, Israel vilified and undermines him.

    All things considered, iffen, for perseverance, for reourcefulness, for character and grace, Palestinians earned fullest accolades.

    Israel is an abject failure,

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    Great post!!!
    , @Curmudgeon

    Jews started colonizing Palestine at latest by 1910.
    In 1930, the project was still sparse and in danger of financial collspse.
     
    While the Zionist Jews may have started in Palestine, "Israel" has no borders. This makes Nikki Haley's "who among us would accept this type of activity on your border?" a question like "When did you stop beating your wife?"
    Most of the statements about Israel are idiotic:
    "Israel has a right to defend itself" ... and the Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Jordanians don't?
    "Israel has a right to secure borders." ... OK, what are they?
    "Israel has a right to exist."... exist as what?; but Palestine doesn't? Does any country have the "right to exist"? Clearly, Yugoslavia didn't nor did the Soviet Union.
    "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East"... You mean the people don't really vote in Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt?

    All of it is meaningless claptrap.
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  54. windwaves says:
    @mark green
    Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It's not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become 'speech crimes', carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    'Denying' the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel's on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose 'national interests' (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They're real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran--a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US--is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there's plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The 'military-industrial complex'. And of course there's Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    brilliant.
    Scary.

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  55. windwaves says:
    @Momus

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped?
     
    Duped about what?

    everything mate because everything is dictated by jews or israeli firsters traitors

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    You should probably just call them Israelis. I think it is wishful thinking that there is even a second.
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  56. @ChuckOrloski
    More so than Elie Wiesel, geokat's "Memory" intact & wrote: "They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil."

    Hi geo,

    Among tolerant native intellectuals, am grateful for P.G.'s conveyance of findings from Iran.

    You need no reminder, but Phil's article subtitle is very thoughtful, "Iranians want to be friends with Americans but Israel hates the idea." I will expand upon his insight a bit.

    Israel wanted all ZUS Senators to be friends with PreZident Trump's CIA Director-nominee, Gina Haspel. Turned out, the majority were!

    In contrast, Citizen Ray McGovern, with whom I like to consider myself as a vicarious (remote) "friend," was not chummy with ZUS Jewish Lobbies & Americans like CIA-employee Gina Haspel whose career fast-tracked because of her affinity for institutional torture programs.

    Well, geokat, turns out that when news broke about Mr. McGovern's awful fate while in attendance at Gina's limited Senate hearing, my fellow citizen, Thomas L. Friedman, happened to publish a NYT Op-Ed about how ZUS occupies "moral high ground" and China does not. (Zigh)

    I got miffed about another display of secular Jewish hypocrisy, and launched the missive (below) to my hometown, Scranton Times-Tribune.

    Apparently, the newspaper editors are my "friend" and they published my letter, this past Sunday. geokat -- Uh, please issue a "Citizen Pardon" for drawing attention to my meager act of unfriendliness to how Friends of Israel love when dissenters get "roughed up" for disobedience.

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune's corresponding picture, below?

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-theeditor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    Thanks to Phil & all my friends assembled here!

    What a brilliant letter, Chuck Orloski!

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-the-editor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    You juxtaposed Tom Friedman’s hypocritical allusions to censorship in China with the facts of censorship carried out in the US Senate when armed officers of the Law manhandled to the ground 78-year old Ray McGovern, in order to protect and even promote CIA (((torturer))) Gina Haspel.

    Congratulations, Chuck; very well done.

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    Hi SolontoCroesus,

    It's impolite for me to challenge your brotherly "congratulations," but I have swum out of the Zionist Jew "Rubicon," escaped in mind & spirit, and that's that.

    Cordially, as we here at U.R. Camp comment
    had rallied to support Phil Giraldi after T.A.C. canned him, I suggest we "stick together" and support Ray McGovern.

    Thanks!
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  57. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @llloyd
    I actually kind a agree with what you say. But how has this developed? Gaza because of the blockade has become a gigantic third world kind of prison compound. The inmates have launched a mass prison outbreak and their guards are shooting them down with intent not generally to kill them but to incapacitate them. What is the solution? Improve the conditions by removing the blockade except for weaponry. Rehabilitate the inmates until they could actually be let out. Maybe they could then go on a shopping spree in Tel Aviv. I checked the Lonely Planet report on Gaza. Lonely Planet does whatever it realistically can to encourage tourism. Are there shopping malls in Gaza as recent videos claimed? If they ever existed, they are gone. It really is a bombed out shit hole full of people approaching a mass mental break down.

    What is the solution? Improve the conditions by removing the blockade except for weaponry. Rehabilitate the inmates until they could actually be let out. Maybe they could then go on a shopping spree in Tel Aviv.

    Thank goodness!!

    I thought I was the only one who noticed all those signs the Palestinians were waving:

    WE JUST WANT TO GO SHOPPING!!

    All we want is a trip to the Mall!!

    Walmart or Bust!

    brought a tear to me eye, it did.

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    My comment on shopping spree was meant ironically. That was the disgusting words used by the Zionist American media to describe the temporary liberation of the Gazans into Egypt about ten years ago. There was a time the Gazans could take bus rides into Cairo and Tel Aviv. At the time after Oslo, Gaza was made a sister city of Tel Aviv. Gaza as a free prosperous city State was possible until the psychos took over Israel and have kept bombing every step of Gazan progress. Gazan air port, power station. All destroyed by the psychos in Jerusalem.
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  59. iffen says:
    @anarchyst
    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp where everything is controlled by Israel? The "border" that Israel claims, is not a border at all, but is an Israel-imposed "demarcation line"...

    I thought that my comment was very clear. Nation building skills required. Propaganda skills are only one small part.

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  60. Zumbuddi says:
    @turtle

    “has enough bullets for everyone. If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem.”
     
    As we know, killing is relatively easy.
    However, corpse disposal can be a major problem.
    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.
    Clearly, the facilities are not yet in place to do so.

    “Liquidation of Gaza . . . would require didposal of 2 000 000 corpses.”

    Another clear indication how much smarter Jews are than anybody else, especially Germans.

    Dumb Germans hauled millions of Jews thousands of miles to specially constructed, equipped and manned facilities to gas then cremate then bury then dig up and cremate again. All they got for their efforts was soap and lampshades. (Who has that many lamps anyway?)

    Jews, on the other hand, shoot ‘em in situ and let the dying bury the dead.
    Spiff Spott.

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    Jews, on the other hand, shoot ‘em in situ and let the dying bury the dead.

    And some foolish people argue that Jews are not smarter than the average bears.
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  61. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    More so than Elie Wiesel, geokat's "Memory" intact & wrote: "They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil."

    Hi geo,

    Among tolerant native intellectuals, am grateful for P.G.'s conveyance of findings from Iran.

    You need no reminder, but Phil's article subtitle is very thoughtful, "Iranians want to be friends with Americans but Israel hates the idea." I will expand upon his insight a bit.

    Israel wanted all ZUS Senators to be friends with PreZident Trump's CIA Director-nominee, Gina Haspel. Turned out, the majority were!

    In contrast, Citizen Ray McGovern, with whom I like to consider myself as a vicarious (remote) "friend," was not chummy with ZUS Jewish Lobbies & Americans like CIA-employee Gina Haspel whose career fast-tracked because of her affinity for institutional torture programs.

    Well, geokat, turns out that when news broke about Mr. McGovern's awful fate while in attendance at Gina's limited Senate hearing, my fellow citizen, Thomas L. Friedman, happened to publish a NYT Op-Ed about how ZUS occupies "moral high ground" and China does not. (Zigh)

    I got miffed about another display of secular Jewish hypocrisy, and launched the missive (below) to my hometown, Scranton Times-Tribune.

    Apparently, the newspaper editors are my "friend" and they published my letter, this past Sunday. geokat -- Uh, please issue a "Citizen Pardon" for drawing attention to my meager act of unfriendliness to how Friends of Israel love when dissenters get "roughed up" for disobedience.

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune's corresponding picture, below?

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-theeditor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    Thanks to Phil & all my friends assembled here!

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune’s corresponding picture, below?

    A picture’s worth a thousand words, Chuck… and this picture depicts democracy in action in today’s Weimerica:

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  62. @DESERT FOX
    Hamas is a MOSSAD front, and acts as an agent provocateur for Israel to cause acts of aggression to be blamed to be blamed on the Palestinians and to give Israel the excuse to attack Palestine.

    The same agenda is used against Iran and Syria where attacks by Israel on its self by Hamas is used as an excuse to attack Syrian and Iranian forces, similar to Hitler having German troops attacking a German radio station and blaming Poland, typical false flag.

    See Steve Pieczenik Talks.com and Ron Paul and Dr. Alan Sabrosky all of whom have said Hamas is a Mossad front, also see Veteranstoday.com.

    DESERT FOX wrote: “See Steve Pieczenik Talks.com and Ron Paul and Dr. Alan Sabrosky all of whom have said Hamas is a Mossad front, also see Veteranstoday.com.”

    Hi DESERT FOX,

    Above, as you know, that to what you & others say is frowned upon by Palestinian Resistance “idealists.”

    However, not so with veteran CIA/Mossad-machination watchers.

    They love the advantage of “plausible deniability.”

    The majority of U.R. commenters are anonymous but for snappy “screen names.” In your case, DESERT FOX, I have no idea what “Front” you fight in.

    But as my comment “Rules of Engagement” lend me to respect your offering, I will lend the following reinforcement to your interesting viewpoint:

    In John Le Carre’s fiction-novel, “The Little Drummer Girl,” one gains insight as to how tricky (deceptive) Mossad-tactics routinely get.

    First though, I offer personal thought that Israel’s “Big Game” target is the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the subsequent shooting of Palestinian protestors is “Small Game,” provocative & always in-season!

    In Le Carre’s “The Little Drummer Girl,” the Chief Mossad officer, Kurtz, with a grin, advised comrades thusly, “You want to catch the lion, first you tether the goat.” *

    As the world knows, the abused “goat” Palestinians are tethered in West Bank and Gaza Strip. And the mighty western Zionist powers, along with perhaps Russia, know that Iran is the “lion” which must be either tamed or killed.

    Thanks, DESERT FOX!

    *F.y.i., In Christopher Bollyn’s book “Solving 9/11,” Le Carre’s novel is discussed and considered very instructive.

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    I am an independent America who sees the gov of the U.S. as captured by the Zionists as far back as 1913 and see our way of life steadily being destroyed by these Zionists via their control of our gov and MSM and MIC and the deep state.

    The PROTOCOLS OF ZION laid out the Zionist plan and they are succeeding on every front and in regards to 911 Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did and got away with it.

    What we have is what Orwell said we would have ie a boot smashing us in the face.
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  63. iffen says:
    @jacques sheete

    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp ...
     
    I wonder if that troll will understand your point. Iran and many other small political entities have always had a tough time trying to maintain themselves, let alone improve themselves, when murderous, treacherous, moneyed goons have always been eager and able to get fools to beat them down.

    Correction to my correction; you don’t know jack shit.

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    ... you don’t know jack shit.
     
    True, but at least I know that and am working on it. You, on the other hand...
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  64. iffen says:

    Persians? Seriously?

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  65. Moi says:
    @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    Then how come in so many countries the “acceptable” narrative about the holocaust cannot be challenged without suffering a fine and/or imprisonment?

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    A lot of it has to do with keeping public order. The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.
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  66. @SolontoCroesus
    What a brilliant letter, Chuck Orloski!

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-the-editor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    You juxtaposed Tom Friedman's hypocritical allusions to censorship in China with the facts of censorship carried out in the US Senate when armed officers of the Law manhandled to the ground 78-year old Ray McGovern, in order to protect and even promote CIA (((torturer))) Gina Haspel.

    Congratulations, Chuck; very well done.

    Hi SolontoCroesus,

    It’s impolite for me to challenge your brotherly “congratulations,” but I have swum out of the Zionist Jew “Rubicon,” escaped in mind & spirit, and that’s that.

    Cordially, as we here at U.R. Camp comment
    had rallied to support Phil Giraldi after T.A.C. canned him, I suggest we “stick together” and support Ray McGovern.

    Thanks!

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  67. Svigor says:

    To be sure, some will say that we were little more than useful idiots, invited to disparage the United States and provide aid and comfort to its enemies

    I am certainly no shill for Iran. I’m not as sympathetic toward Iran as many critics of Israel or pro-Whites are, either. But I just don’t think of Iran as our enemy. Sure, there’s a lot of trash-talk going on between the American and Iranian gov’t. Yes, they’re in opposing camps. But what have the Iranians actually done to us? The whole “enemy of America” thing seems to hinge on the idea that Israel is our greatest ally, which I find to be complete horseshit; their relationship to us is parasitic. The Iranians don’t sponsor al Qaeda or Islamic State, as far as I know; that has been our “allies” (Saudi Arabia and other Sunni states) sin. So what if the Iranians are fighting a proxy war against Israel and Sunni states in Syria or Lebanon? WTF do I care? If the gov’t wants to meddle in that nonsense and get US servicemen killed, that’s their business. It has nothing to do with American interests, as far as I’m concerned.

    If that makes me a “useful idiot,” so be it.

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  68. Svigor says:
    @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    My criteria for whether the IDF is doing an acceptable job doesn’t exist in a vacuum; for me, it’s about whether the IDF lives up to the standards that Jews hold American Whites to.

    The answer is FUCK NO.

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  69. Moi says:
    @geokat62

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune’s corresponding picture, below?
     
    A picture’s worth a thousand words, Chuck... and this picture depicts democracy in action in today’s Weimerica:

    https://www.sott.net/image/s23/466841/large/5af32a48dda4c84d678b464f.jpg

    I understand quite a lot of our constabulary goes for higher-level training in Israel–and then they bring it home.

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  70. Svigor says:
    @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    If by “scientific endeavour” you mean “obfuscating and denying and vilifying the realities of HBD and race, and serially poisoning the well of race relations,” then I concur.

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  71. Svigor says:
    @Pindos
    Yeah, just ask them.

    Everyone hates the Jews because they’re so fabulous.

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  72. annamaria says:
    @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    Giraldi is right: “Israel and its fascistic leader Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.”
    You, peterAUS, cannot refute this succinct statement. Israel has been practicing fascistic policies towards all her neighbors (see Oded Yinon plan).
    There has been also a well-documented collaboration between Israel and ISIS (Al Qaeda). And this is not all: Israel-firsters and ziocons have been collaborating with banderites in Ukraine. Amazingly, neither ADL nor any other nazi-hunting organization raised their voices against Nuland-Kagan, Pyatt, and McCain, these ardent friends and supporters of Ukrainian self-proclaimed neo-Nazi: https://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/us-backing-neo-nazis-ukraine
    – Your posts are good at inviting the readers to ponder on the cynism and amorality of “the most victimized” and the “most moral.”
    The only natural solution to the problem seems to be the giving up on the ethnic exclusivity (supremacism) of the state of Israel and creating a normal modern state where Palestinians would have the same rights as the supposedly Jewish aliya from Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and Brooklyn.

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  73. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen
    Persians? Seriously?

    No, Persians comically.

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  74. Grumbler says:
    @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    Jews pushing for the elimination of free speech more than cancels out whatever good they claim they have accomplished in scientific endeavor.

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  75. @Wally
    said:
    "similar to Hitler having German troops attacking a German radio station and blaming Poland, typical false flag."

    Wrong, very much so, pure propaganda. No one even heard of it until 1945, yet it supposedly happened in 1939.

    see:
    The Gleiwitz “False Flag” Incident is Pure Fiction
    https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction
    and:
    THE MYTH OF THE FAKE GERMAN ATTACK ON THE GLEIWITZ RADIO STATION
    https://www.cwporter.com/gleiwitz.htm

    I stand by what I said, it a fact and no amount of disinformation can change it.

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  76. Grumbler says:
    @Momus

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped?
     
    Duped about what?

    Momus, duped about the entire myth of Jews and their god; wars in the ME that have zero to do with the US being threatened but everything to do with Israel’s lust for the Greater Israel project; the lies being pumped into the culture by the Jewish run media and entertainment; the holocaust; etc, etc, etc…

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    Momus, duped about the entire myth...
     
    That one fancies itself some great satirist but it's truly gormless.
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  77. @ChuckOrloski
    DESERT FOX wrote: "See Steve Pieczenik Talks.com and Ron Paul and Dr. Alan Sabrosky all of whom have said Hamas is a Mossad front, also see Veteranstoday.com."

    Hi DESERT FOX,

    Above, as you know, that to what you & others say is frowned upon by Palestinian Resistance "idealists."

    However, not so with veteran CIA/Mossad-machination watchers.

    They love the advantage of "plausible deniability."

    The majority of U.R. commenters are anonymous but for snappy "screen names." In your case, DESERT FOX, I have no idea what "Front" you fight in.

    But as my comment "Rules of Engagement" lend me to respect your offering, I will lend the following reinforcement to your interesting viewpoint:

    In John Le Carre's fiction-novel, "The Little Drummer Girl," one gains insight as to how tricky (deceptive) Mossad-tactics routinely get.

    First though, I offer personal thought that Israel's "Big Game" target is the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the subsequent shooting of Palestinian protestors is "Small Game," provocative & always in-season!

    In Le Carre's "The Little Drummer Girl," the Chief Mossad officer, Kurtz, with a grin, advised comrades thusly, "You want to catch the lion, first you tether the goat." *

    As the world knows, the abused "goat" Palestinians are tethered in West Bank and Gaza Strip. And the mighty western Zionist powers, along with perhaps Russia, know that Iran is the "lion" which must be either tamed or killed.

    Thanks, DESERT FOX!

    *F.y.i., In Christopher Bollyn's book "Solving 9/11," Le Carre's novel is discussed and considered very instructive.

    I am an independent America who sees the gov of the U.S. as captured by the Zionists as far back as 1913 and see our way of life steadily being destroyed by these Zionists via their control of our gov and MSM and MIC and the deep state.

    The PROTOCOLS OF ZION laid out the Zionist plan and they are succeeding on every front and in regards to 911 Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did and got away with it.

    What we have is what Orwell said we would have ie a boot smashing us in the face.

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  78. Grumbler says:
    @Momus
    He's a benthos in a tiny oxygen poor ecosystem. No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

    So if the elites do not care for the truth then no one else should care either?

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  79. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Bravo, and Brave and Righteous, and all that, but mostly what I'm thinking is ENVY!

    I wish I could have been there!

    Iran is so beautiful; the cause is so important; your advocacy is so deep-rooted and vital -- I wish I could have witnessed the conference in real time.

    Thanks a million for the report, Phil, and I hope we will hear more about the conferees and the topic.

    Until then --


    Will Trump’s Pyrrhic Victory End with America’s Role As Global Bully?
    By Philip M. Giraldi
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49451.htm

    I knew this would warm your cockles. ;) Let’s hope there’s a bootlegged record of the proceedings, because it seems links are suppressed. [Searching anything newhorizons.ir gets "website unavailable" notice. Also, "6th International Conference of Independent Thinkers and Artists" gets very limited results.]

    Any success with alternative search engines? I was looking for a list of speakers, at least. (Do you recognize the guys sitting with Phil? They look familiar.)

    This is a notorious conference. In 2014, Gareth Porter famously expressed regret for attending, citing the presence of anti-Semitic 911 truthers. “The Anti-Defamation League loudly attacked the conference for focusing on Zionist control of western media and the outsize influence of the Zionist Lobby in the US and around the world.”

    https://dissidentvoice.org/2014/10/new-horizon-conference-meeting-of-minds-in-tehran/

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    Here is a partial list of the speakers:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/05/17/jerusalem-al-quds-eternal-capital-of-palestine-conference-in-mashhad-iran/

    Speakers from the New Horison International Conference in Mashad (YouTube uploaded)

    Philip Giraldi:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAMKB2AlHRo

    Michael Maloof:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPm92g3QfqM

    Scott Bennett:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUCD6CoToiE

    Sander Hicks:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPm92g3QfqM
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  80. peterAUS says:
    @iffen
    I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.

    Agree.

    Looking at just those 3 videos it’s obvious that they’ve learnt that art well.
    It’s the same method, actually, used by “progs” all over the world.

    It’s almost fascinating to see Israelis, Jews, of all people on defensive here.
    Cynic would say that the inventors and masters are getting out mastered, or karma is a bitch.

    At the same time, well, Israelis don’t budge here as most of the rest and that’s also interesting to see.
    I am positive that a lot of people on the “state side” watching this, anywhere in the world can’t help but envying Israelis on the ground there. “If only I could do that, just for one day….”.

    I try (or so I say) to constantly switch positions when thinking about all that, trying to find a solution to all that. Nothing……..

    Immovable object and unstoppable force.

    This could get worse.
    Feels as an experiment.

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    You act as if your cherry picked vids to suit your pro-zionist pro-Israeli viewpoint justify killing 63 Palestinians and gravely injuring thousands more in one day alone? It never fails, there is always some nutcase like you under articles like these spouting self-pitying hasbara bullshit. You suck dude. Only really stupid people or zionists would agree with your horseshit.
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  81. @iffen
    Correction to my correction; you don't know jack shit.

    … you don’t know jack shit.

    True, but at least I know that and am working on it. You, on the other hand…

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    Jacques,

    In case you missed it, great article by Dr. Sniegoski a while back, about Iran as a victim of British, Russian/Soviet & Zamerican imperialism...

    https://alethonews.com/2013/11/10/iran-as-a-twentieth-century-victim-1900-through-the-aftermath-of-world-war-ii/

    Iran as a Twentieth Century Victim: 1900 Through the Aftermath of World War II

    During the nineteenth century, Russia and Britain competed for power and influence in Central Asia, in what was known as the Great Game. Needless to say, it was neither great nor a game for those countries, such as Iran, which were treated like pawns on a chessboard by the two great powers. By the turn of the twentieth century, Russia had come to dominate the northern part of Iran while Britain dominated the south. The two powers formalized this division in the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907, which segmented Iran into three parts—a Russian zone in the north, in which Russia was to have exclusive political and economic control; a British zone in the southeast, in which Britain had the sole right to exercise political and economic control; and a neutral “buffer” zone in the rest of the country, in which both the British and the Russians shared power. ...

    ...With the dramatic rise in power of Germany in Europe, which was also starting to penetrate Central Asia, Britain and Russia realized that it was necessary if not to completely put away their rivalry, then at least to lessen tensions. This development, however, did not bode well for Iranian sovereignty since the formal division made it appear that the imperial control would be lasting.

    This foreign domination essentially meant that the resources of Iran were under the control of the two imperial powers and that the purpose of whatever economic development took place was primarily for the benefit of those powers and not the Iranian state or people. ...
     
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  82. @Grumbler
    Momus, duped about the entire myth of Jews and their god; wars in the ME that have zero to do with the US being threatened but everything to do with Israel's lust for the Greater Israel project; the lies being pumped into the culture by the Jewish run media and entertainment; the holocaust; etc, etc, etc...

    Momus, duped about the entire myth…

    That one fancies itself some great satirist but it’s truly gormless.

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  83. Incitatus says:
    @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    “Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west…”

    Don’t forget proof: the Cherry Tomato. Mankind is in awe.

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  84. @Wally
    I seriously doubt that Iran is still defenseless.
    Things have changed.

    Cheers.

    I seriously doubt that Iran is still defenseless.
    Things have changed.

    Cheers.

    Cheers to you , sir!

    Now, if you’d elaborate and substantiate…

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    Hey Jacques,

    I ain't Wally, but, just briefly, I'll give it a go;

    First, common sense; if Iran was defenseless, it would have already long been attacked by the ZUSA coward, which loves a war with those who cannot fight back...

    But the Pentagon has gamed an attack on Iran many times, and the chances of failure were high for the zamericans...

    Iran, if attacked , will not fight on zamerican terms. I'd say, imagine Hezbollah on steroids.
    The Saker is correct on this issue.
    A good article about the orange bozo's new campaign against Iran;
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/trumps-new-campaign-against-iran-will-not-achieve-its-aims.html

    Regards

    , @Carroll Price
    Iran is strong enough to keep Israel at bay. But that's not saying much since Hezbollah forces in Lebanon has them scared shitless.
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  85. @Momus
    He's a benthos in a tiny oxygen poor ecosystem. No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

    No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

    Mo-muss doesn’t care, blah blah blah…therefore mo-muss admits she’s no one who matters.

    PS: We already knew that.

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  86. Sam Shama says:

    I heard over and over again expressions of that fact from ordinary people and sophisticates alike. They would love to have a good relationship and an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.

    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

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    If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.
     
    Right. The onus is on the Iranian clergy... they’re the ones standing in the way of a bright future, not the Zionists. I get it, I get it... if only the Iranian people embraced regime change, business would flourish. They are being offered the same deal that was offered to Musharraf‘s Pakistan: if you don’t choose wisely, you’ll be bombed back to the Stone Age. Why can’t these dumb Mullah’s get it? Business is king!
    , @anonymous

    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.
     
    Ain't that exactly what one would expect a Jewy Jew would say:

    First, sell your children's soul to the Jewish devil of perversion, depravity, violence and hate, then turn over your economy to the money changers.

    Shama the Jewy Jew pasted Giraldi's wisely conditional statement, but she didn't incorporate it into her thinking process:


    . . . an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.
     
    The way the USA represents itself to the world cannot be called diplomacy.

    Thuggery, maybe.

    Pompeo a diplomat?

    Bolton, Haley, Feltman, Nuland the Kaganite, Robert Ford, Ryan Crocker, David Satterfield --- not one among them who, if he/she took rooms in a hotel in Tehran, that space would have to be fumigated upon conclusion of visit. USA has not been represented by a person of statesman-calibre since William Morgan Shuster.

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  87. Grumbler says:
    @anarchyst
    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp where everything is controlled by Israel? The "border" that Israel claims, is not a border at all, but is an Israel-imposed "demarcation line"...

    anarchyst, well said.

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  88. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Iranians want to be friends with Americans
     
    Of course they do.

    Iran (Persia) is a tiny, poor country that’s entirely unable to defend itself from the big boys who have long done everything possible to keep the country backward and under their bootheels. We can now add more than 100 years to Shuster's claim....

    “Persia has suffered in many ways from the foreigner during
    the past thirty years.”


    W. Morgan Shuster, The Strangling of Persia, 1912, pg 315

    Shuster was the leader of a group of Americans who, at the request of the Persians (Iranians) went there to help modernize the country. After 8 months he and the rest were booted out of Persia by the Russians and Brits.

    Subsequently the "Allies," three months prior the attack on Pearl Harbor sunk or disabled neutral Iran's entire navy (of around six "ships" if I remember correctly) in a surprise attack, occupied the country, confiscated the oil resources and refineries, then established the Persian Corridor which was used to ship military supplies to Stalin. The supplies included everything from ammot to locomotives and planes and was enough to supply 60 Soviet divisions.

    Hey Jacques,

    Yes, Iran has been suffering at the hands of the major imperialist powers for a long time, 150 years easy…

    I only disagree that Iran is a tiny and defenseless country; it is a large country with a large population(now) and it is far from defenseless… which, in the 1940s, it obviously was, of course. The Brits and Soviets invaded Iran in August 1941 & quickly overran Iran’s tiny forces.

    Also, despite all the sanctions since the 1979 revolution, Iran has modernized itself, this was admitted recently even by that neocon rag, the Economist.

    As Lebanese journalist Sharmine Narwani, who writes for TAC(for how long?), tweeted:‏

    In ONE year (2015), #Iran moved up 6 places in the Human Devt Index (HDI) – according to UNDP “one of the highest increases for any country in the past 8 years.” Btwn 1980-2012, Iran averaged double the global growth rate. The Revolution, in a nutshell.

    I’m confident the new criminal ZUS sanctions against Iran, which constitute acts of war if you think about it, will fail again… maybe it’ll even help get the Rouhani’s neoliberals out… these people are damaging and undermining Iran.

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  89. Charlie says:

    Amazing the difference between Giraldi’s article here and Peter Van Buren’s story on Reuters-

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vanburen-iran-commentary/commentary-i-just-visited-iran-heres-what-i-heard-about-the-u-s-idUSKCN1IM1EG

    Van Buren says JCPOA and the embassy move were tracked closely in Iran but apparently mentioning the killings in Gaza ist verboten at Reuters. Van Buren can do better than this.

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  90. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    ... you don’t know jack shit.
     
    True, but at least I know that and am working on it. You, on the other hand...

    Jacques,

    In case you missed it, great article by Dr. Sniegoski a while back, about Iran as a victim of British, Russian/Soviet & Zamerican imperialism…

    https://alethonews.com/2013/11/10/iran-as-a-twentieth-century-victim-1900-through-the-aftermath-of-world-war-ii/

    Iran as a Twentieth Century Victim: 1900 Through the Aftermath of World War II

    During the nineteenth century, Russia and Britain competed for power and influence in Central Asia, in what was known as the Great Game. Needless to say, it was neither great nor a game for those countries, such as Iran, which were treated like pawns on a chessboard by the two great powers. By the turn of the twentieth century, Russia had come to dominate the northern part of Iran while Britain dominated the south. The two powers formalized this division in the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907, which segmented Iran into three parts—a Russian zone in the north, in which Russia was to have exclusive political and economic control; a British zone in the southeast, in which Britain had the sole right to exercise political and economic control; and a neutral “buffer” zone in the rest of the country, in which both the British and the Russians shared power. …

    …With the dramatic rise in power of Germany in Europe, which was also starting to penetrate Central Asia, Britain and Russia realized that it was necessary if not to completely put away their rivalry, then at least to lessen tensions. This development, however, did not bode well for Iranian sovereignty since the formal division made it appear that the imperial control would be lasting.

    This foreign domination essentially meant that the resources of Iran were under the control of the two imperial powers and that the purpose of whatever economic development took place was primarily for the benefit of those powers and not the Iranian state or people. …

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    LK, thanks for that. Sniegoski is tops too, and I agree with all you posted. Intend to check the link.

    Bottom line, Iran (Persia) has been a target for imperial ambitions for a long time. I don't know how those folks keep going, but then the middle class here has been under siege since the beginning, too.
    , @jacques sheete
    I read it, it's excellent, and I give the author an A+. I have nothing to add or correct, and I am happy that he emphasized the fact that after the Brits and Soviets gave the American mission the boot, Iran sought support from the Germans, and the Germans complied in a respectable manner.

    He also did a good job of summarizing while emphasizing the meddling of the Bolshies and the USSR.

    It's a good supplement to PG's excellent article and I call it a "must read" for all the "experts" who get their info from mass (dufus) media.

    Note: It's less than 9000 words long and an easy read.

    , @RobinG
    Question for Phil.....

    What do you know about the assertion that US/UK, (CIA, along with MI6, et al), not only installed the Shah in 1953, but, finding him no longer suitable, facilitated his removal in 1978-79?

    There was some discussion of this in comments at Mike Whitmey's "Did Trump Scrap the Nuke's Deal to Pay Back His Pro-Israel Campaign Donors?"
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  91. Incitatus says:

    “I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.”

    Agree. But that’s the only card Hamas has to play. No ‘nation’ will be permitted by Likud. It would mean their (Likud) downfall.

    Sometimes enemies are more useful as enemies.

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    Sometimes enemies are more useful as enemies.

    I guess I could compliment Israel for doing their part, but I don't see a lot of options available to them.
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  92. Momus says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?"

    The fake & impossible '6,000,000 Jews & gas chambers' is all about Jew power. In fact that is why it was invented.
    Below is where free speech on the impossible 'holocaust' storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes. An obvious admission that the storyline doesn't stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.
    http://theday.co.uk/images/stories/2016/2016-12/2016-12-15_holocaust.png

    Revisionist Dr. Faurisson beaten:
    https://codoh.com/media/files/jhr-16-2-faurisson6.jpg
    Revisionist Michel Caignet beaten
    https://codoh.com/media/files/jhr-16-2-faurisson4.jpg
    Bombing attack on Revisionist Ernst Zundel's home
    https://codoh.com/media/files/jhr-16-2-faurisson3.jpg
    see much more: Jew Terror
    https://codoh.com/library/document/2662/?lang=en

    www.codoh.com

    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history – it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn’t stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don’t think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

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    Jews make movies, call it history, then send out mama's boys to pretty it up with Talmudic phrases.

    Instead of cleaning up turds, Jews mount a PR campaign and sell them.

    Total Rubbish: Why is Israel so Filthy?
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/MAGAZINE-total-rubbish-why-is-israel-so-filthy-1.6006920
    , @jacques sheete

    ...but don’t think your views have any currency with the vast majority.
     
    So what?
    , @Them Guys
    Momma, don't let yer babies grow up to be....Jewdeo-Glue-Sniffer's!
    , @annamaria
    "... the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.."
    -- Poor Momus. It is so yesterday to be upset about "racist propaganda" when the leading US ziocons have been the leading supporters and promoters of neo-Nazis. Tell the Kagans' clan that "Holocaust denial is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory". The Kagans are the true makers of history in Ukraine where it is OK (after the Nuland-led regime change in 2014) to desecrate Jewish cemeteries and abuse WWII veterans.
    The louder you bloviate about holocaust biz, the greater is the cognitive dissonance between the Zionists' "righteous" suppression of the freedom of speech and their actual promoting, strengthening, and supporting the neo-fascist movement in Ukraine.
    Momus writes, "Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted." -- Thank you. The insulting activities of ziocons towards the memory of victims of the WWII in Ukraine, Poland, Russia, and the Baltic States are so notorious and well known, that the whole ziocon cabal must be investigated for the promoting the neo-Nazism and banderism.
    The ziocon-initiated neo-Nazi renaissance has been spilling to Poland: "Ukrainian nationalists stand behind desecration of Jewish cemetery:" https://www.reddit.com/r/antisemitism/comments/5npnj5/ukrainian_nationalists_stand_behind_desecration/
    "Jewish Cemetery Vandalized in Ukraine Town ‘Cleansed’ by the Nazis of Its Jews:" https://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/3762941/jewish/Jewish-Cemetery-Vandalized-in-Ukraine-Town-Cleansed-by-the-Nazis-of-Its-Jews.htm
    "Nazi Desecration of Monument at Babyn Yar:" https://ukrainesolidaritycampaign.org/2014/11/19/nazi-desecration-of-monument-at-babyn-yar/
    "In a 72-page document published by the Israeli Ministry for Diaspora Affairs, Ukraine was named as the leading country of the post-Soviet space, in terms of a number of verbal attacks and violent actions against Jews, their property, shrines and community institutions." https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/01/israel-announces-ukraine-as-most-anti/
    , @Svigor
    No, denial law serves the role of enforcing Jewish preference as law.

    It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general.

    If Jews had any long-term sense, they'd be fighting these laws, against the day that they don't have the cash to keep buying people off, or the clout to keep threatening them.

    , @renfro

    Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.
     
    And therein lies your holocaust problem:


    Judicial notice nevertheless remains useful for admitting documents
    into evidence because
    [t]he taking of “judicial notice of court records” is actually a
    convenient shorthand for two distinct concepts—importing the
    documents into the record of the matter at hand and establishing
    their authenticity. Importing the documents into the record
    really is not a matter of judicial notice at all; it is a matter of
    offering evidence.9

    If you are envisioning using "common knowledge" as a holocaust tool in a court you still have to provide documents ,evidence and proof....its not just a matter of Jews say so or how many people believe what.

    Which if you are being challenged on your holocaust your opponent will also submit documents , records and evidence to the judge or jury.....probably using official records from the Red Cross , DP records and a myriad of reports from at the time reports and subsequent opposing investigators. So you still have to prove, beyond just Jews say so, that whatever you are claiming...i.e, 6 million, gas chambers, etc......are true, with evidence.....and frankly stories from so called survivors have already been somewhat tainted by all the fake survivors that have been exposed.

    So for you judicial notice isn't really a slam dunk

    , @Carroll Price
    That's funny. The Holy Bible (also compiled by Jews) once held the same judicial notice status as the holohoax until after it was proven to contain hundreds of tall tales on the same level with Cinderella and Jack & the Beanstalk..
    , @Caruthers
    Holocaust denial laws are no different from the multitudinous blasphemy laws of the past, and are justified with the fallacious slogans: they serve a necessary societal function, etc.
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  93. lavoisier says: • Website
    @gsjackson
    On the subject of speech crimes, I'm wondering if a constitutional challenge has been mounted yet against this new South Carolina law criminalizing advocacy of the BDS movement. If such a challenge is unsuccessful, then the free speech clause of the First Amendment -- one of the pillars of American democracy -- is a dead letter.

    Back in the early '80s in a civil liberties class in law school I addressed some point about an expansive interpretation of the First Amendment and said it was held by every liberal arts professor at the university, assuming, as I did then, that they were uniformly ACLU type liberals. The professor corrected me: "That's not true. They're Marxists and Marcuseans."

    t took me a while to understand just what he meant, but it is clear now that (((Marxists))) and (((Marcuseans))) are sworn enemies of free speech, and no doubt are even more entrenched decades later in academia and the other propaganda venues.

    And by the way, thanks a heap, South Carolina, for your current contributions to our public life. Is there anybody out there worse than Graham and Haley?

    And by the way, thanks a heap, South Carolina, for your current contributions to our public life. Is there anybody out there worse than Graham and Haley?

    McCain.

    But the other two are pretty awful.

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    Tom 'pikkin' Cotton. He should be drawn and quartered.
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  94. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    I seriously doubt that Iran is still defenseless.
    Things have changed.

    Cheers.
     
    Cheers to you , sir!

    Now, if you'd elaborate and substantiate...

    Hey Jacques,

    I ain’t Wally, but, just briefly, I’ll give it a go;

    First, common sense; if Iran was defenseless, it would have already long been attacked by the ZUSA coward, which loves a war with those who cannot fight back…

    But the Pentagon has gamed an attack on Iran many times, and the chances of failure were high for the zamericans…

    Iran, if attacked , will not fight on zamerican terms. I’d say, imagine Hezbollah on steroids.
    The Saker is correct on this issue.
    A good article about the orange bozo’s new campaign against Iran;

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/trumps-new-campaign-against-iran-will-not-achieve-its-aims.html

    Regards

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  95. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    I heard over and over again expressions of that fact from ordinary people and sophisticates alike. They would love to have a good relationship and an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.
     
    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    Right. The onus is on the Iranian clergy… they’re the ones standing in the way of a bright future, not the Zionists. I get it, I get it… if only the Iranian people embraced regime change, business would flourish. They are being offered the same deal that was offered to Musharraf‘s Pakistan: if you don’t choose wisely, you’ll be bombed back to the Stone Age. Why can’t these dumb Mullah’s get it? Business is king!

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    If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.
     

     
    He wrote that?

    No surprise there because we all should know by now that it's "natural," these days to do "business" at the point of a gun. (Same as the old days and there are numerous examples.)

    We dumb goyim can be fooled some of the time...
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  96. @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.

    Sitting here, trying my hardest to imagine what it would be like to have this happening on my border, yet somehow all I can seem to do is imagine myself as the Palestinian in such a scenario. Screaming at invaders who used a contract with a foreign government to invade, slaughter and replace my people with their preferred demographics, and then proceeded to continue slaughtering, displacing and robbing my people of everything they have ever known for the next 70 years while simultaneously screeching about their ‘right’ to defend themselves against us.

    That about sum it up for you, ZioNazi? You don’t get to do the invading and the killing and then cry victim when your victims of 70+ years now decide to do something other than quietly accept their genocide.

    That border you speak of, it’s PALESTINE’S border. Not Israel’s. That Balfour Declaration of 1917 by which Israel was created, was a declaration of a war of aggression wherein Jews and Brits stole occupied land and claimed it as their own. Then they built an 80% ATHEISTIC nation on the land and cited their land lord of a god as justification for their actions.

    The illegitimate Rothschild terror state of Israel has no right to exist.

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    ...yet somehow all I can seem to do is imagine myself as the Palestinian in such a scenario.
     
    Could be. Depends on who you are and how long you've been in Europe.

    I just have a feeling that a lot of people in countries along that ...highway....from Greece to Germany can, with ease, imagine the opposite.
    Native to those lands that is.
    , @deschutes
    Great post. The PeterAUS seems quite like a hasbara troll, methinks. You gave him the smackdown he so thoroughly deserved. Kudos.
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  97. @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    It doesn’t happen at US borders, and it doesn’t happen at EU or UK borders. You’re not being controversial. You’re being wrong.

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    forgottenpseudonym to Troll peterAus:

    It doesn’t happen at US borders, and it doesn’t happen at EU or UK borders.
     
    Indeed it does not. In fact the largely Zionist controlled media would be all over it IF it did.
    Troll peterAus is just merely using this as a tactical device to entice the more sanguine anti-immigration types into his completely false analogy.
    As RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965 pointed out, the Palestinians locked up in Gaza are the indigenous population of Palestine, mostly they are refugees from zionist ethnic cleansing that took place in 48.
    IOW, it is the Jews who were the invading immigrants, the foreign elements invading Palestine, and, unlikely those immigrants who are let into North Zamerica or Europe, they rapidly armed themselves up and violently expelled the indigenous Palestinian majority.
    Also worth pointing out that the Hungarian government protected its borders without massacring anybody.

    forgottenpseudonym to Troll peterAus: "You’re not being controversial. You’re being wrong."

    Of course, but what peterAus really is, is a COWARD & a liar, which are the hallmarks of this warmongering hasbaraRat shill and keyboard commando.

    , @Carroll Price
    It don't happen on the borders of any civilized country on earth. Jewish control over virtually the entire developed world's financial systems (including the US) is the only reason their uncivilized conduct is allowed to continue.
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  98. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    I heard over and over again expressions of that fact from ordinary people and sophisticates alike. They would love to have a good relationship and an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.
     
    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    Ain’t that exactly what one would expect a Jewy Jew would say:

    First, sell your children’s soul to the Jewish devil of perversion, depravity, violence and hate, then turn over your economy to the money changers.

    Shama the Jewy Jew pasted Giraldi’s wisely conditional statement, but she didn’t incorporate it into her thinking process:

    . . . an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.

    The way the USA represents itself to the world cannot be called diplomacy.

    Thuggery, maybe.

    Pompeo a diplomat?

    Bolton, Haley, Feltman, Nuland the Kaganite, Robert Ford, Ryan Crocker, David Satterfield — not one among them who, if he/she took rooms in a hotel in Tehran, that space would have to be fumigated upon conclusion of visit. USA has not been represented by a person of statesman-calibre since William Morgan Shuster.

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    To the Maven Sam Shama, & in dismay, anonymous # 107 inquired: "Pompeo a diplomat?"

    Hi # 107,

    He knows, but the Maven will never explain (to dumb goyim) exactly what kind of "diplomat" is ZUS Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo.

    Pompeo is an Ace Khazarian mafia-diplomat, and one can evaluate current evidence which demonstrates how he's given the Islamic Republic of Iran's theocracy an "offer they can't (better not!) refuse.

    Thanks, 107!
    , @Sam Shama
    Evidently, you are quite upset, apoplectic even. I have many Iranian friends in the US, successful entrepreneurs most of them, and almost to a man, they agree the time is high for a renaissance in US-Iran cultural and commercial partnerships. They also despise the mullahs.

    I fail to understand what your objections are. [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]

    Qorban-e shoma berem

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  99. @L.K
    Jacques,

    In case you missed it, great article by Dr. Sniegoski a while back, about Iran as a victim of British, Russian/Soviet & Zamerican imperialism...

    https://alethonews.com/2013/11/10/iran-as-a-twentieth-century-victim-1900-through-the-aftermath-of-world-war-ii/

    Iran as a Twentieth Century Victim: 1900 Through the Aftermath of World War II

    During the nineteenth century, Russia and Britain competed for power and influence in Central Asia, in what was known as the Great Game. Needless to say, it was neither great nor a game for those countries, such as Iran, which were treated like pawns on a chessboard by the two great powers. By the turn of the twentieth century, Russia had come to dominate the northern part of Iran while Britain dominated the south. The two powers formalized this division in the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907, which segmented Iran into three parts—a Russian zone in the north, in which Russia was to have exclusive political and economic control; a British zone in the southeast, in which Britain had the sole right to exercise political and economic control; and a neutral “buffer” zone in the rest of the country, in which both the British and the Russians shared power. ...

    ...With the dramatic rise in power of Germany in Europe, which was also starting to penetrate Central Asia, Britain and Russia realized that it was necessary if not to completely put away their rivalry, then at least to lessen tensions. This development, however, did not bode well for Iranian sovereignty since the formal division made it appear that the imperial control would be lasting.

    This foreign domination essentially meant that the resources of Iran were under the control of the two imperial powers and that the purpose of whatever economic development took place was primarily for the benefit of those powers and not the Iranian state or people. ...
     

    LK, thanks for that. Sniegoski is tops too, and I agree with all you posted. Intend to check the link.

    Bottom line, Iran (Persia) has been a target for imperial ambitions for a long time. I don’t know how those folks keep going, but then the middle class here has been under siege since the beginning, too.

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    ain’t Wally, but, just briefly, I’ll give it a go;

    First, common sense; if Iran was defenseless, it would have already long been attacked
     

    Who knows? Remember, we're dealing with crackpots in positions of power, so anything is possible.

    Iran seems to make a fairly decent bogeyman and if they get destroyed, that's one less "threat" for the asses in power to play with.


    Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. Wars are no longer waged by the will of superior men, capable of judging dispassionately and intelligently the causes behind them and the effects flowing out of them. They are now begun by first throwing a mob into a panic; they are ended only when it has spent its ferine fury. Here the effect of civilization has been to reduce the noblest of the arts, once the repository of an exalted etiquette and the chosen avocation of the very best men of the race, to the level of a riot of peasants. are now disgusting and degrading; the conduct of them has passed out of the hands of nobles and knights and into the hands of mob-orators, moneylenders, and atrocity-mongers.

    -H.L. Mencken, In Defense of Women, p27, (1918)

    http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/files/indefwom.pdf

     

    PS: I think you meant "good sense," not common sense. Good sense is not common.


    PPS: I think we could add, all the wars of Zionism, are now disgusting and degrading...

    PPPS: Iran has been attacked, or more accurately under attack in various ways, for the better part of the last century.

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  100. @Momus
    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history - it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn't stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don't think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

    Jews make movies, call it history, then send out mama’s boys to pretty it up with Talmudic phrases.

    Instead of cleaning up turds, Jews mount a PR campaign and sell them.

    Total Rubbish: Why is Israel so Filthy?

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/MAGAZINE-total-rubbish-why-is-israel-so-filthy-1.6006920

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  101. chris says:
    @Momus
    He's a benthos in a tiny oxygen poor ecosystem. No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

    No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

    errr, but why do you then, Einsteen ? Your self-deprecation is very understated.

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  102. @jacques sheete
    LK, thanks for that. Sniegoski is tops too, and I agree with all you posted. Intend to check the link.

    Bottom line, Iran (Persia) has been a target for imperial ambitions for a long time. I don't know how those folks keep going, but then the middle class here has been under siege since the beginning, too.

    ain’t Wally, but, just briefly, I’ll give it a go;

    First, common sense; if Iran was defenseless, it would have already long been attacked

    Who knows? Remember, we’re dealing with crackpots in positions of power, so anything is possible.

    Iran seems to make a fairly decent bogeyman and if they get destroyed, that’s one less “threat” for the asses in power to play with.

    Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. Wars are no longer waged by the will of superior men, capable of judging dispassionately and intelligently the causes behind them and the effects flowing out of them. They are now begun by first throwing a mob into a panic; they are ended only when it has spent its ferine fury. Here the effect of civilization has been to reduce the noblest of the arts, once the repository of an exalted etiquette and the chosen avocation of the very best men of the race, to the level of a riot of peasants. are now disgusting and degrading; the conduct of them has passed out of the hands of nobles and knights and into the hands of mob-orators, moneylenders, and atrocity-mongers.

    -H.L. Mencken, In Defense of Women, p27, (1918)

    http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/files/indefwom.pdf

    PS: I think you meant “good sense,” not common sense. Good sense is not common.

    PPS: I think we could add, all the wars of Zionism, are now disgusting and degrading…

    PPPS: Iran has been attacked, or more accurately under attack in various ways, for the better part of the last century.

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  103. Jake says:
    @Wally
    What WASP problem?

    You're making it up to distract from Jew terror tactics.

    www.codoh.com

    Which is exactly what a smart Jew, or person directed by smart Jews, would say to deflect from the partnership. We have what we have because of the natural, inevitable flow of culture from the Anglo-Saxon Puritan Judaizing heresy. We have what we have precisely because of Oliver Cromwell making alliance with Jews, and doing it specifically to wage war on non-WASP white Christians.

    Nothing has changed since then, save that in recent decades it has become clear than the once junior partner, banking partner, Jews have supplanted the WASPs as acting senior partner in the alliance. But the WASP-Jewish alliance remains, and it acts always to further destroy whatever is left of historic Christendom and its peoples. The British Empire took the WASP-Jewish alliance around the globe and forced millions upon millions to bow before it. The Yanks took over running the worldwide WASP-Jewish alliance and are now even more insistent that the whole world bow to it.

    Without the WASP problem, there would be no Jewish problem that could not be handled locally and rather easily.

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    ....in recent decades it has become clear than the once junior partner, banking partner, Jews have supplanted the WASPs as acting senior partner in the alliance.
     
    Does look that way.

    Personally, still, not quite sure about it.

    Not saying "disagree", just "not sure".

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  104. @anonymous

    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.
     
    Ain't that exactly what one would expect a Jewy Jew would say:

    First, sell your children's soul to the Jewish devil of perversion, depravity, violence and hate, then turn over your economy to the money changers.

    Shama the Jewy Jew pasted Giraldi's wisely conditional statement, but she didn't incorporate it into her thinking process:


    . . . an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.
     
    The way the USA represents itself to the world cannot be called diplomacy.

    Thuggery, maybe.

    Pompeo a diplomat?

    Bolton, Haley, Feltman, Nuland the Kaganite, Robert Ford, Ryan Crocker, David Satterfield --- not one among them who, if he/she took rooms in a hotel in Tehran, that space would have to be fumigated upon conclusion of visit. USA has not been represented by a person of statesman-calibre since William Morgan Shuster.

    To the Maven Sam Shama, & in dismay, anonymous # 107 inquired: “Pompeo a diplomat?”

    Hi # 107,

    He knows, but the Maven will never explain (to dumb goyim) exactly what kind of “diplomat” is ZUS Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo.

    Pompeo is an Ace Khazarian mafia-diplomat, and one can evaluate current evidence which demonstrates how he’s given the Islamic Republic of Iran’s theocracy an “offer they can’t (better not!) refuse.

    Thanks, 107!

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  105. Them Guys says:
    @Momus
    True.

    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    Sans Hamas, rehabilitation will take a generation.

    Another Glue Sniffing Zio Hasbarat Clown eh.

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  106. @L.K
    Jacques,

    In case you missed it, great article by Dr. Sniegoski a while back, about Iran as a victim of British, Russian/Soviet & Zamerican imperialism...

    https://alethonews.com/2013/11/10/iran-as-a-twentieth-century-victim-1900-through-the-aftermath-of-world-war-ii/

    Iran as a Twentieth Century Victim: 1900 Through the Aftermath of World War II

    During the nineteenth century, Russia and Britain competed for power and influence in Central Asia, in what was known as the Great Game. Needless to say, it was neither great nor a game for those countries, such as Iran, which were treated like pawns on a chessboard by the two great powers. By the turn of the twentieth century, Russia had come to dominate the northern part of Iran while Britain dominated the south. The two powers formalized this division in the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907, which segmented Iran into three parts—a Russian zone in the north, in which Russia was to have exclusive political and economic control; a British zone in the southeast, in which Britain had the sole right to exercise political and economic control; and a neutral “buffer” zone in the rest of the country, in which both the British and the Russians shared power. ...

    ...With the dramatic rise in power of Germany in Europe, which was also starting to penetrate Central Asia, Britain and Russia realized that it was necessary if not to completely put away their rivalry, then at least to lessen tensions. This development, however, did not bode well for Iranian sovereignty since the formal division made it appear that the imperial control would be lasting.

    This foreign domination essentially meant that the resources of Iran were under the control of the two imperial powers and that the purpose of whatever economic development took place was primarily for the benefit of those powers and not the Iranian state or people. ...
     

    I read it, it’s excellent, and I give the author an A+. I have nothing to add or correct, and I am happy that he emphasized the fact that after the Brits and Soviets gave the American mission the boot, Iran sought support from the Germans, and the Germans complied in a respectable manner.

    He also did a good job of summarizing while emphasizing the meddling of the Bolshies and the USSR.

    It’s a good supplement to PG’s excellent article and I call it a “must read” for all the “experts” who get their info from mass (dufus) media.

    Note: It’s less than 9000 words long and an easy read.

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    Hey Jacques,

    Glad you enjoyed it, that article( and Sniegoski's excellent book transparent cabal) deserve a wider audience.

    Btw, Pepe Escobar of Asia Times conducted an eye opening interview in Iran.

    Ahmad Bahmani is the Europe and Americas adviser to Ali Akbar Velayati, who happens to be the top foreign policy adviser to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. So what Bahmani says comes from the highest levels of the Iranian government.

    Bahmani received Asia Times for an exclusive exchange of ideas in an unassuming office in Tehran.
     
    http://www.atimes.com/article/tehran-eyes-path-ahead-after-us-withdrawal-from-nuclear-pact/

    Key topics/highlights of the interview

    On the New World Order
    On Barjam (how the JCPOA is referred to in Iran)
    On Iranian psychology
    On Iranian resilience
    On regional alliances
    On the near future
    On Israel
    On Israel’s bombing of the T4 base in Syria

    Cheers
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  107. L.K says:
    @forgottenpseudonym
    It doesn't happen at US borders, and it doesn't happen at EU or UK borders. You're not being controversial. You're being wrong.

    forgottenpseudonym to Troll peterAus:

    It doesn’t happen at US borders, and it doesn’t happen at EU or UK borders.

    Indeed it does not. In fact the largely Zionist controlled media would be all over it IF it did.
    Troll peterAus is just merely using this as a tactical device to entice the more sanguine anti-immigration types into his completely false analogy.
    As RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965 pointed out, the Palestinians locked up in Gaza are the indigenous population of Palestine, mostly they are refugees from zionist ethnic cleansing that took place in 48.
    IOW, it is the Jews who were the invading immigrants, the foreign elements invading Palestine, and, unlikely those immigrants who are let into North Zamerica or Europe, they rapidly armed themselves up and violently expelled the indigenous Palestinian majority.
    Also worth pointing out that the Hungarian government protected its borders without massacring anybody.

    forgottenpseudonym to Troll peterAus: “You’re not being controversial. You’re being wrong.”

    Of course, but what peterAus really is, is a COWARD & a liar, which are the hallmarks of this warmongering hasbaraRat shill and keyboard commando.

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  108. @Momus
    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history - it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn't stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don't think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

    …but don’t think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

    So what?

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  109. @geokat62

    If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.
     
    Right. The onus is on the Iranian clergy... they’re the ones standing in the way of a bright future, not the Zionists. I get it, I get it... if only the Iranian people embraced regime change, business would flourish. They are being offered the same deal that was offered to Musharraf‘s Pakistan: if you don’t choose wisely, you’ll be bombed back to the Stone Age. Why can’t these dumb Mullah’s get it? Business is king!

    If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    He wrote that?

    No surprise there because we all should know by now that it’s “natural,” these days to do “business” at the point of a gun. (Same as the old days and there are numerous examples.)

    We dumb goyim can be fooled some of the time…

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  110. Momus says:
    @Moi
    Then how come in so many countries the "acceptable" narrative about the holocaust cannot be challenged without suffering a fine and/or imprisonment?

    A lot of it has to do with keeping public order. The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.

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    Let me guess --

    Your girlfriend just finished first year law school. You got drunk together to celebrate, and over barf episodes and beer-breathe, she mentioned the term "judicial notice" and tried to explain it.

    Some cretins (benthos?) at the bar smashed some glasses & the gendarme was summoned -- causing your pickled brain to associate "public order" with "judicial notice."

    In a Freudian confession punctuated with burps, you revealed to your girlie-girl that you just weren't making the cut on your hasbara team; your retorts were tinny and unimaginative. Bosswoman said your commentary was "something your average Episcopalian might produce." The Episcopalian slur really got to you.

    In a rare moment of sobriety, girlie-girl, all excited, said, Momus mami, here's the solution: Judicial notice!
    Introduce this concept to your squad! It's genius! It'll catch-on like the clap, your boss will invite you over for shabbat, you'll get a raise and you can pay for my next abortion! Oh mami I love you!

    And so it came to pass: mami Momus took Judicial Notice for a test-drive on Unz while her girlfriend got a refill on her clindamycin.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
    Judicial notice is not a simplistic process;


    The court may judicially notice a fact that is not subject to reasonable dispute because it:
    (1) is generally known within the trial court’s territorial jurisdiction; or
    (2) can be accurately and readily determined from sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.

    (c) Taking Notice. The court:
    (1) may take judicial notice on its own; or
    (2) must take judicial notice if a party requests it and the court is supplied with the necessary information.

    . . .

    The usual method of establishing adjudicative facts in through the introduction of evidence, ordinarily consisting of the testimony of witnesses. If particular facts are outside of reasonable controversy, this process is dispensed with as unnecessary. A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_201
     

    In other words, one cannot drop the Judicial Notice bomb the way IDF drops Palestinian babies; the facts sought to be put on notice must be outside reasonable controversy and have a high degree of indisputability.

    The very fact that certain historical claims are maintained as facts under systems of duress, punishment, censorship and criminalization shrieks to high heaven that those "facts" do not enjoy a "high degree of indisputability."

    Back to the drawing board for you, Momus mami, and to vinegar douches for your אהובה

    , @L.K
    momus, zionist hasbaraRat and unintentional clown goes:
    "The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted."

    pffffhHAHAHHAHAHAHA ... thanks for the laugh, liar.

    Well, since you keep lying about this thread after thread, I'll keep reminding you of the truth.
    Several of the most important holohoax historians have admitted, discreetly & grudgingly, that evidence to support the official holohoax atrocity propaganda is very much lacking.

    ..already in 1951, the Jew Léon Poliakov, who had been part of the French delegation at the Nuremberg show trials (1945-1946), stated his conclusion that we had at our disposal an overabundance of documents for all points of the history of the Third Reich, with the exception of one point alone: the “campaign to exterminate the Jews”. For this, he wrote, “No document remains, perhaps none has ever existed” (Bréviaire de la haine, Paris, Calmann-Lévy, 1974 [1951], p. 171; English version: Harvest of Hate, New York, Holocaust Library, 1979, revised and expanded edition)
     
    It is not just documentary evidence that is missing.. . it is also the material evidence which should be abundant, but in fact does not exist. For example:
    During an interview to the Canadian STAR, 27 December 2009, prominent Jewish holohoax “historian” and Auschwitz ‘expert’, Robert Jan van Pelt, stated:

    We have no material or forensic evidence to support eyewitness reports of gassings…
    Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove
    "

     

    Comparing the "evidence" for the official tales re Auschwitz to the AR camps, the same van Pelt, in his 'The Case for Auschwitz: Evidence from the Irving Trial', p.5, writes:

    "The evidence for the role of Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor[...] is much less abundant(than Auschwitz)."There are very few eyewitnesses, no confession that can compare to that given by Höss, no significant remains, and few archival sources."

     

    So, the evidence for Auschwitz is next to nothing - plus there is abundant evidence refuting the atrocity propaganda - but the evidence for the Aktion Reinhardt camps is, according to Pelt himself, even much less than at Auschwitz, which is just about zero. Concerning the 'confessions' of Höss though, another famous holohoax "historian", the miserable shabbos goy, Christopher Browning, in his 'The Origins of the Final Solution: The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy', September 1939-March 1942 (University of Nebraska Press and Yad Vashem :-) , 2004), p.544 note.169, writes:“...the testimonies of especially Höss and to some extent Eichmann are confused, contradictory, self-serving, and not credible.”

    The above are but just a few examples... and that, shill, is the reason for all the censorship around the holohoax, the most taboo subject of all.
    , @jacques sheete

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.
     
    You are amusing in a pathetically puerile way, but what shall we do with the mothers of all racists, the violent Zionists? Explain.
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  111. Art says:
    @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.

    How stupid!

    I feel sorry for AUS – they have a peter on display, with a very small brain that can only process one picture at a time. He is incapable of seeing the whole picture, of 70 years of Jew rule over the Palestinians. Stupid peter has zero empathy for the beleaguered people of Gaza.

    peter is not much of a man – a real man feels the just anger that boys and young men naturally feel toward the oppressors of their families. People that have it all together empathize with the Palestinians – not the mean Jews.

    Why are all the Jew lovers so inhuman? They are never nice. They are always haughty and arrogant. They think meanness is smart.

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

    p.s. peterAUS and Jews – birds of a feather.

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  112. Sam Shama says:
    @anonymous

    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.
     
    Ain't that exactly what one would expect a Jewy Jew would say:

    First, sell your children's soul to the Jewish devil of perversion, depravity, violence and hate, then turn over your economy to the money changers.

    Shama the Jewy Jew pasted Giraldi's wisely conditional statement, but she didn't incorporate it into her thinking process:


    . . . an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.
     
    The way the USA represents itself to the world cannot be called diplomacy.

    Thuggery, maybe.

    Pompeo a diplomat?

    Bolton, Haley, Feltman, Nuland the Kaganite, Robert Ford, Ryan Crocker, David Satterfield --- not one among them who, if he/she took rooms in a hotel in Tehran, that space would have to be fumigated upon conclusion of visit. USA has not been represented by a person of statesman-calibre since William Morgan Shuster.

    Evidently, you are quite upset, apoplectic even. I have many Iranian friends in the US, successful entrepreneurs most of them, and almost to a man, they agree the time is high for a renaissance in US-Iran cultural and commercial partnerships. They also despise the mullahs.

    I fail to understand what your objections are. [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]

    Qorban-e shoma berem

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    [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]
     
    ummm.

    hmm.

    [scratching head]

    [btw how do you know I am Jewish? ]

    Oooo

    ah, yes!

    Archives!!
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Sam+Shama

    Ron Unz, what a guy! Thought of everything!


    sheesh

    , @L.K
    sam shameless, the Zionist microbe: "Evidently, you are quite upset, blah, blah, blah...."

    Anonymous[107]'s reply to your usual BS/obfuscation was spot on and drove you "apoplectic".
    :-P
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  113. @Momus
    A lot of it has to do with keeping public order. The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.

    Let me guess –

    Your girlfriend just finished first year law school. You got drunk together to celebrate, and over barf episodes and beer-breathe, she mentioned the term “judicial notice” and tried to explain it.

    Some cretins (benthos?) at the bar smashed some glasses & the gendarme was summoned — causing your pickled brain to associate “public order” with “judicial notice.”

    In a Freudian confession punctuated with burps, you revealed to your girlie-girl that you just weren’t making the cut on your hasbara team; your retorts were tinny and unimaginative. Bosswoman said your commentary was “something your average Episcopalian might produce.” The Episcopalian slur really got to you.

    In a rare moment of sobriety, girlie-girl, all excited, said, Momus mami, here’s the solution: Judicial notice!
    Introduce this concept to your squad! It’s genius! It’ll catch-on like the clap, your boss will invite you over for shabbat, you’ll get a raise and you can pay for my next abortion! Oh mami I love you!

    And so it came to pass: mami Momus took Judicial Notice for a test-drive on Unz while her girlfriend got a refill on her clindamycin.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
    Judicial notice is not a simplistic process;

    The court may judicially notice a fact that is not subject to reasonable dispute because it:
    (1) is generally known within the trial court’s territorial jurisdiction; or
    (2) can be accurately and readily determined from sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.

    (c) Taking Notice. The court:
    (1) may take judicial notice on its own; or
    (2) must take judicial notice if a party requests it and the court is supplied with the necessary information.

    . . .

    The usual method of establishing adjudicative facts in through the introduction of evidence, ordinarily consisting of the testimony of witnesses. If particular facts are outside of reasonable controversy, this process is dispensed with as unnecessary. A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_201

    In other words, one cannot drop the Judicial Notice bomb the way IDF drops Palestinian babies; the facts sought to be put on notice must be outside reasonable controversy and have a high degree of indisputability.

    The very fact that certain historical claims are maintained as facts under systems of duress, punishment, censorship and criminalization shrieks to high heaven that those “facts” do not enjoy a “high degree of indisputability.”

    Back to the drawing board for you, Momus mami, and to vinegar douches for your אהובה

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    Judicial notice is an established precedent in the US and in similar principal across the West.

    See here:

    IHR was a flogger denier group set up by Nazi William Carto.

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward. Represented by public interest attorney William John Cox, Mermelstein subsequently sued the IHR in the Superior Court of Los Angeles County for breach of contract, anticipatory repudiation, libel, injurious denial of established fact, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and declaratory relief On October 9, 1981, both parties in the Mermelstein case filed motions for summary judgment in consideration of which Judge Thomas T. Johnson of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County took "judicial notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944," judicial notice meaning that the court treated the gas chambers as common knowledge, and therefore did not require evidence that the gas chambers existed. On August 5, 1985, Judge Robert A. Wenke entered a judgment based upon the Stipulation for Entry of Judgment agreed upon by the parties on July 22, 1985. The judgment required IHR and other defendants to pay $90,000 to Mermelstein and to issue a letter of apology to "Mr. Mel Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau and Buchenwald, and all other survivors of Auschwitz" for "pain, anguish and suffering" caused to them.

    , @FLgeezer
    A classic post S2C. You are the best! 8-)
    , @renfro
    BRAVO BRAVO !!!!!
    , @Carroll Price
    Unz needs to add a BOP tab at the bottom of each comment (best of post).
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  114. KenH says:

    It’s time to normalize relations with Iran and give Israel the one finger salute. We should lift sanctions on doing business with Iran while freezing all foreign aid we provide Israel. We should end all foreign aid since it’s just a bribery racket anyway although in Israel’s case their powerful domestic lobby is extorting the money.

    Iran’s domestic issues are none of our business just like ours is none of theirs and is between the Iranian government and their people to sort out. Sorry deplorables, but “America First” was just a catchy campaign slogan. We flyover rubes always fall for that stuff.

    We never bothered to ask if Trump meant it literally or as Charles Lindbergh did. Instead we’re getting whatever Sheldon Adelson and Bibi demand and if you protest you’re a wicked anti-semite and un-American.

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  115. The reduced acceptability of the dollar in turn would mean that the Federal Reserve will be unable to continue to print fiat money to support U.S. interventions, with severe repercussions for the American economy.

    This American welcomes “severe repercussions for the American economy” if it means the death of the Anglo/Zio Empire. When you are being over run it is permissible to call for air support/artillery on your own position.

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  116. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama
    Evidently, you are quite upset, apoplectic even. I have many Iranian friends in the US, successful entrepreneurs most of them, and almost to a man, they agree the time is high for a renaissance in US-Iran cultural and commercial partnerships. They also despise the mullahs.

    I fail to understand what your objections are. [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]

    Qorban-e shoma berem

    [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]

    ummm.

    hmm.

    [scratching head]

    [btw how do you know I am Jewish? ]

    Oooo

    ah, yes!

    Archives!!

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Sam+Shama

    Ron Unz, what a guy! Thought of everything!

    sheesh

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    Well ok, I suppose; although your frenzied reply suggests otherwise. It is not the reply of an insecure poster who could not muster the courage to write under their usual handle while indulging in a fit of insults?

    Why the insults? "Jewy Jew", "Jewish Devil", etc. Do you find the suggestion of cultural and business exchanges objectionable? I should really like to know.

    Stay well anonymous[107]
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  117. Laugh.

    i don’t know about friendship. Those shouts about “death to america” are troubling. And its high time they take responsibility for coups conducted by their own citizens. They sound like democrats and Russian collusion.

    However, I see n o reason to go about attempting regime change in the region or violating the deal we have agreed to without evidence , especially evidence from disinterested parties, to bail on the installed agreement.

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  118. Them Guys says:
    @Momus
    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history - it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn't stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don't think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

    Momma, don’t let yer babies grow up to be….Jewdeo-Glue-Sniffer’s!

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  119. peterAUS says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
     
    Sitting here, trying my hardest to imagine what it would be like to have this happening on my border, yet somehow all I can seem to do is imagine myself as the Palestinian in such a scenario. Screaming at invaders who used a contract with a foreign government to invade, slaughter and replace my people with their preferred demographics, and then proceeded to continue slaughtering, displacing and robbing my people of everything they have ever known for the next 70 years while simultaneously screeching about their 'right' to defend themselves against us.

    That about sum it up for you, ZioNazi? You don't get to do the invading and the killing and then cry victim when your victims of 70+ years now decide to do something other than quietly accept their genocide.

    That border you speak of, it's PALESTINE'S border. Not Israel's. That Balfour Declaration of 1917 by which Israel was created, was a declaration of a war of aggression wherein Jews and Brits stole occupied land and claimed it as their own. Then they built an 80% ATHEISTIC nation on the land and cited their land lord of a god as justification for their actions.

    The illegitimate Rothschild terror state of Israel has no right to exist.

    …yet somehow all I can seem to do is imagine myself as the Palestinian in such a scenario.

    Could be. Depends on who you are and how long you’ve been in Europe.

    I just have a feeling that a lot of people in countries along that …highway….from Greece to Germany can, with ease, imagine the opposite.
    Native to those lands that is.

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  120. L.K says:
    @Sam Shama
    Evidently, you are quite upset, apoplectic even. I have many Iranian friends in the US, successful entrepreneurs most of them, and almost to a man, they agree the time is high for a renaissance in US-Iran cultural and commercial partnerships. They also despise the mullahs.

    I fail to understand what your objections are. [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]

    Qorban-e shoma berem

    sam shameless, the Zionist microbe: “Evidently, you are quite upset, blah, blah, blah….”

    Anonymous[107]‘s reply to your usual BS/obfuscation was spot on and drove you “apoplectic”.
    :-P

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    L.K. what a delight to see you!

    Hope the caretaker at the reptile enclosure is taking good care of your mother's rat ration while you are away slithering into our view?

    But do tell me, have you found gainful employment yet? I know, I know the circuses are a bit busy these days with mentalists and their likes, so the reptilian act takes a backseat. What can an honest reptile hybrid do? Kepp me abreast of your progress, won't you?
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  121. peterAUS says:
    @Jake
    Which is exactly what a smart Jew, or person directed by smart Jews, would say to deflect from the partnership. We have what we have because of the natural, inevitable flow of culture from the Anglo-Saxon Puritan Judaizing heresy. We have what we have precisely because of Oliver Cromwell making alliance with Jews, and doing it specifically to wage war on non-WASP white Christians.

    Nothing has changed since then, save that in recent decades it has become clear than the once junior partner, banking partner, Jews have supplanted the WASPs as acting senior partner in the alliance. But the WASP-Jewish alliance remains, and it acts always to further destroy whatever is left of historic Christendom and its peoples. The British Empire took the WASP-Jewish alliance around the globe and forced millions upon millions to bow before it. The Yanks took over running the worldwide WASP-Jewish alliance and are now even more insistent that the whole world bow to it.

    Without the WASP problem, there would be no Jewish problem that could not be handled locally and rather easily.

    ….in recent decades it has become clear than the once junior partner, banking partner, Jews have supplanted the WASPs as acting senior partner in the alliance.

    Does look that way.

    Personally, still, not quite sure about it.

    Not saying “disagree”, just “not sure”.

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  122. L.K says:
    @Momus
    A lot of it has to do with keeping public order. The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.

    momus, zionist hasbaraRat and unintentional clown goes:
    “The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.”

    pffffhHAHAHHAHAHAHA … thanks for the laugh, liar.

    Well, since you keep lying about this thread after thread, I’ll keep reminding you of the truth.
    Several of the most important holohoax historians have admitted, discreetly & grudgingly, that evidence to support the official holohoax atrocity propaganda is very much lacking.

    ..already in 1951, the Jew Léon Poliakov, who had been part of the French delegation at the Nuremberg show trials (1945-1946), stated his conclusion that we had at our disposal an overabundance of documents for all points of the history of the Third Reich, with the exception of one point alone: the “campaign to exterminate the Jews”. For this, he wrote, “No document remains, perhaps none has ever existed” (Bréviaire de la haine, Paris, Calmann-Lévy, 1974 [1951], p. 171; English version: Harvest of Hate, New York, Holocaust Library, 1979, revised and expanded edition)

    It is not just documentary evidence that is missing.. . it is also the material evidence which should be abundant, but in fact does not exist. For example:
    During an interview to the Canadian STAR, 27 December 2009, prominent Jewish holohoax “historian” and Auschwitz ‘expert’, Robert Jan van Pelt, stated:

    We have no material or forensic evidence to support eyewitness reports of gassings…
    Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove

    Comparing the “evidence” for the official tales re Auschwitz to the AR camps, the same van Pelt, in his ‘The Case for Auschwitz: Evidence from the Irving Trial’, p.5, writes:

    “The evidence for the role of Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor[...] is much less abundant(than Auschwitz).”There are very few eyewitnesses, no confession that can compare to that given by Höss, no significant remains, and few archival sources.

    So, the evidence for Auschwitz is next to nothing – plus there is abundant evidence refuting the atrocity propaganda – but the evidence for the Aktion Reinhardt camps is, according to Pelt himself, even much less than at Auschwitz, which is just about zero. Concerning the ‘confessions’ of Höss though, another famous holohoax “historian”, the miserable shabbos goy, Christopher Browning, in his ‘The Origins of the Final Solution: The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy’, September 1939-March 1942 (University of Nebraska Press and Yad Vashem :-) , 2004), p.544 note.169, writes:“…the testimonies of especially Höss and to some extent Eichmann are confused, contradictory, self-serving, and not credible.”

    The above are but just a few examples… and that, shill, is the reason for all the censorship around the holohoax, the most taboo subject of all.

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    nicely done L.K
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  123. RobinG says:
    @L.K
    Jacques,

    In case you missed it, great article by Dr. Sniegoski a while back, about Iran as a victim of British, Russian/Soviet & Zamerican imperialism...

    https://alethonews.com/2013/11/10/iran-as-a-twentieth-century-victim-1900-through-the-aftermath-of-world-war-ii/

    Iran as a Twentieth Century Victim: 1900 Through the Aftermath of World War II

    During the nineteenth century, Russia and Britain competed for power and influence in Central Asia, in what was known as the Great Game. Needless to say, it was neither great nor a game for those countries, such as Iran, which were treated like pawns on a chessboard by the two great powers. By the turn of the twentieth century, Russia had come to dominate the northern part of Iran while Britain dominated the south. The two powers formalized this division in the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907, which segmented Iran into three parts—a Russian zone in the north, in which Russia was to have exclusive political and economic control; a British zone in the southeast, in which Britain had the sole right to exercise political and economic control; and a neutral “buffer” zone in the rest of the country, in which both the British and the Russians shared power. ...

    ...With the dramatic rise in power of Germany in Europe, which was also starting to penetrate Central Asia, Britain and Russia realized that it was necessary if not to completely put away their rivalry, then at least to lessen tensions. This development, however, did not bode well for Iranian sovereignty since the formal division made it appear that the imperial control would be lasting.

    This foreign domination essentially meant that the resources of Iran were under the control of the two imperial powers and that the purpose of whatever economic development took place was primarily for the benefit of those powers and not the Iranian state or people. ...
     

    Question for Phil…..

    What do you know about the assertion that US/UK, (CIA, along with MI6, et al), not only installed the Shah in 1953, but, finding him no longer suitable, facilitated his removal in 1978-79?

    There was some discussion of this in comments at Mike Whitmey’s “Did Trump Scrap the Nuke’s Deal to Pay Back His Pro-Israel Campaign Donors?”

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    So RobinG has a "Question for Phil….."

    Hi RobinG,

    Why petition P.G. for that?!!

    With his usual Christian-Zionist spin, I predict even iffen can answer that one.
    , @L.K
    The part about the CIA/MI6 1953 coup is by now backed by declassified documents...

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/20/64-years-later-cia-finally-releases-details-of-iranian-coup-iran-tehran-oil/
    64 Years Later, CIA Finally Releases Details of Iranian Coup

    On August 19, 1953, democratically-elected Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh was overthrown in a coup orchestrated by the CIA and British intelligence, after having nationalized the oil industry.

    Declassified documents released last week shed light on the Central Intelligence Agency’s central role in the 1953 coup that brought down Iranian Prime Minister Muhammad Mossadegh, fueling a surge of nationalism which culminated in the 1979 Iranian Revolution and poisoning U.S.-Iran relations into the 21st century.
     
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  124. The Christian religion thrived even as the Romans took desperate measures to try and suppress it. Why is it that a religion, when faced with tyrannical oppression, is still able to increase its following? In Vietnam, despite huge body counts the population of Vietnam stayed constant. This should create fear in the hearts of all nations with Muslim minorities. The flip side of this is, what has it done or will continue to do to the Total fertility rate in Israel? How many Israeli couples want to raise children, especially boys who may become snipers and man the 500 checkpoints scattered throughout the West Bank and Jerusalem or man the security patrol in every part of the country? Don’t even ask how Israel can finance all this security without American foreign aid?
    During our Sunday’s church service, the congregation asked for prayer for people who had been flooded out by spring snowmelt or those in the shadows of Kilauea on the big island. After my good wife tried but failed to dissuade me I took the bold step of publicly stating that snipers shooting into crowds of Palestinians may not be a good way to bring people to Christ. This is definitely not the type of thing that makes me want to stand up for Jesus or make Jews proud of their heritage. Amongst good Christians, it is widely believed that the chosen people hold the key to the second coming and any criticism of Israel will cause you to be driven from the congregation and go straight to hell. The hell part I’m not sure about but I am the largest contributor, in the church so that may buy me some forgiveness.
    In church, the events in the Middle East are always given as proof that the second coming is imminent and he will save his chosen people. In the good book, it is written that no one knows the hour or day and that Christ will arrival like a thief in the night. This is all well and good but Christians claim the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb and its’ invention may not have been a bad thing.
    So how is this Middle East conflict going to end?
    Snipers’ firing into crowds of innocent people is definitely not a good way to achieve reconciliation.
    Plan A. the most commonly accepted is the second coming.
    Plan B. America and Israel versus the world is an expensive stalemate. The two or three very wealthy Jewish political contributors who are able to purchase America’s unconditional support of Israel are approaching the end of their life expectancy. The cost of this military intervention keeps rising and threatens to alienate our allies and bankrupting the nation. This plan will continue to create very large piles of corpses.
    My scenario or Plan C. is that the Birth rate of Israelis and emigration out of Israel by its’ best minds will continue; while Christianity continues to fall out of vogue here at home. Palestinians will be in a better negotiating position and the Israelis will have to bargain in good faith. This appears to be the only way out for everyone. Both groups need each other and nobody is going anywhere.

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    " . . . but Christians claim the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. "


    No, The scriptural reference is in the contained context of christ's admonitions of end times.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24&version=NIV
    , @ANON

    Amongst good Christians, it is widely believed that the chosen people hold the key to the second coming and any criticism of Israel will cause you to be driven from the congregation and go straight to hell. . . .
    In church, the events in the Middle East are always given as proof that the second coming is imminent and he will save his chosen people. In the good book, it is written that no one knows the hour or day and that Christ will arrival like a thief in the night. . . . the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. .
     
    WTF is "good" or "Christian" about that pile of irrational pseudo-spiritual mumbo-jumbo? Did you ever think about it under a cold, harsh light of logic?

    What is so important or significant about a "second coming?"
    Second coming of What, exactly? An orgasm? Santa Claus? JFK?

    What? Who?
    What's going to happen on the Second coming event that is so important, so significant that it's worth killing hundreds of millions of people, stealing their homes and futures?

    Are you even going to be around for it?
    Let's say you're 45 years old.
    The Second Coming not having occurred in the last 2000 years, give or take, the odds are you are going to be dead before The Event for which you have been "the biggest contributor" occurs.
    Sheldon Adelson smiles.
    All your contributions down his gold-plated toilet into his IDF-armored vault.
    The House always wins.
    Sucker.

    It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb and its’ invention may not have been a bad thing
     
    More "good Christian" learning, George Jensen?
    Do the people who were incinerated by "the bomb" share your sentiment?
    Have you ever spent a moment -- in good Christian prayer, of course -- considering that killing people in huge numbers is not something Jesus spent a lot of time advocating?

    "It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb"

    We haven't had a war that started on Tuesday, Dec. 8, 1941 either. What does that prove?

    Do "good Christians" believe that "wars between major powers" kill fewer people than wars in which a major power bombs the hell out of a country that cannot proportionally defend itself?

    What criteria do "good Christians" apply to a war in which only one power is a major power?

    It's easy to forget because
    a. Americans -- "good Christians" -- have almost never been on the dying end of those wars or those bombs;
    b. we've cleverly exonerated ourselves from culpability for crimes against humanity on a hitherto unimagined scale in those wars that were "between two major powers,"
    c.

    its’ invention may not have been a bad thing
     
    If that's the case, George Jensen, and if that's what "good Christians" believe, that "the invention of the bomb may not have been a bad thing," then more nations should have bombs, thereby expanding the distribution of things that are "not bad."

    Right?

    I am the largest contributor, in the church
     
    why in the world do you support such mind-numbing, soul-shriveling, law-breaking nonsense?

    Don't you consider yourself complicit in Israel's crimes?


    Tell this forum how much you contribute to support the really goofy notions that you laid out and that your money helps to reinforce.

    Now, how many Palestinian dead people does your money redeem?

    Think in REAL terms, man, not some whack-a-doodle notions about somebody coming down from the sky then doing the sequel.

    "good Christians."

    The problem, not the solution.
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  125. Patricus says:
    @DESERT FOX
    America is a colony of Israel and has been under Zionist control for over 100 years starting in 1913 with the creation of the Zionist owned FED and then the Zionists fastened the IRS on Americans to make sure we would pay for the wars that the Zionist bankers had planned for America starting with WWI and on down through the Mideast.

    911 was done by Israel and the zionist controlled deep state in the U.S. and the fact that they got away with proves the zionist total control of America, and 911 was typical of the zionists as that is what they do ie cause wars and destroy countries and societies and they will are destroying America.

    Desert Fox, it would be too complimentary to call you a Jew hater. You are self deluded.

    Israel doesn’t control the US. Jews are 1.7% of the country and shrinking. Those serving as elected representatives have to win their votes from a majority of non Jews. Are all these gentiles willing stooges of the Zionists?

    It is amazing the Jews of 100 years ago were able to anticipate future wars so precisely. Sad to say, our foolish middle eastern wars were designed and implemented by gentiles.

    All knowing and all seeing Jews have ruined your wretched life? Try getting a girlfriend and a job. As a white man I am ashamed to see a fellow white man crawl (maybe you are an aborigine). Dislike Jews if you must but stop giving them imaginary super powers. You need psychological help.

    Plenty of Jews died on 911. They are overrepresented in New York.

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    Read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION and the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and by the way I do not hate the Jews as the vast majority are not involved in what the Zionists have done and are doing to America.

    Read Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution to see what the Zionists did to Russia and these are the very type of Zionists who are destroying America via the wars we are forced to fight for Israel and the wars ie WWI and on down to this very day that we have fought for the Zionist bankers who own the FED and the IRS.

    The Zionists have a goal of a NWO ie a Zionist controlled ONE WORLD GOV, suggest y0u do some research on this and yes Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911, that is a fact, suggest you do some research on this also.
    , @jilles dykstra
    According to the definition of the atheistic jews of themselves 'anyone who feels connected to the jewish culture', my estimate would be that the USA has some ten percent jews.
    I corresponded with a christian USA writer, whose grandfather, or great grandfather, forgot, in 1870 in Germany converted from judaism to christianity.
    In my opinion my correspondent still was a jew, his first loyalty to jews.
    One also sees this in his books.
    , @gwynedd1
    Yeah no bias here , huh.

    1.7% of people is not 1.7% of the disposable income. Lots of voters keep trying to vote in politicians that are not so pro-Israel but they nearly always lean Zionist after the election. This includes Trump. I was more positive on Trump for being more neutral, and now , as usual, muh Zionism.
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  126. Art says:
    @Momus
    True.

    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    Sans Hamas, rehabilitation will take a generation.

    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    What dishonesty!

    Jews are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    It is amazing what little respect the Jews have for truth and reality. They insult us.

    Getting in people’s face and forcing an obvious lying on them – is major stupid – but all the Jews do it (95%).

    There are 7,000,000,000 people who do not believe this guy (voted at the UN).

    A Jew by culture is a greedy dishonest jerk – only when he acts in a Western manner does he achieve success.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

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    Yep.

    Israeli dissident Gilad Atzmon has just written a new piece after the Gaza massacre. In it he states:
    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018/5/19/onaccountability-in-the-light-of-israeli-brutality

    I remain firmly behind those words that upset Mr. Adlington “…maybe the time is ripe for Jewish and Zionist organisations to draw the real and most important lesson from the Holocaust. Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.” http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/holocaust-day-the-time-is-ripe-for-a-jewish-apology.html
     
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  127. Che Guava says:
    @Momus
    Lol at benthos PG's hope for martyrdom at the hands of two badged thugs.

    The way you are mis- and over-using ‘benthos’ is pretty funny,

    You cute little benthic basement-dwelling gronk, so adorable.

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  128. RobinG says:

    Letter from Iran: Mr. Trump, you have been served http://www.atimes.com/article/letter-from-iran-mr-trump-you-have-been-served/ Pepe Escobar:

    In a letter addressed to President Donald Trump, with copies to the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the UN Security Council, four top former officials at the highest level of the US government have given him legal notice about his duty to advise the US Congress, the ICC and the UNSC, among others, about Israel’s actions coinciding with the “70th anniversary of the expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians from their homes.”

    The letter is signed, among others, by former CIA operations officer Phil Giraldi; former Pentagon official Michael Maloof; former US Army officer and State Department coordinator for counterterrorism contractor Scott Bennett; and former diplomat and author of Visas For al-Qaeda: CIA Handouts That Rocked The World, Michael Springmann.

    “…the letter was written by Giraldi and Maloof at an airport lounge as they were waiting for a flight from Mashhad to Tehran …”

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  129. @RobinG
    Question for Phil.....

    What do you know about the assertion that US/UK, (CIA, along with MI6, et al), not only installed the Shah in 1953, but, finding him no longer suitable, facilitated his removal in 1978-79?

    There was some discussion of this in comments at Mike Whitmey's "Did Trump Scrap the Nuke's Deal to Pay Back His Pro-Israel Campaign Donors?"

    So RobinG has a “Question for Phil…..”

    Hi RobinG,

    Why petition P.G. for that?!!

    With his usual Christian-Zionist spin, I predict even iffen can answer that one.

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    When you make no sense, Chuck..... you really make no sense. Perhaps you misunderstood the question. But congrats on your LTE. Did you submit the picture of Ray, or did the editors do that on their own?
    , @iffen
    I predict even iffen can answer that one.

    I would need to know where PG was stationed in the late 70's in order to answer this one, Woodchuck.

    How's the shack-up with Melissa going?
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  130. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete
    I read it, it's excellent, and I give the author an A+. I have nothing to add or correct, and I am happy that he emphasized the fact that after the Brits and Soviets gave the American mission the boot, Iran sought support from the Germans, and the Germans complied in a respectable manner.

    He also did a good job of summarizing while emphasizing the meddling of the Bolshies and the USSR.

    It's a good supplement to PG's excellent article and I call it a "must read" for all the "experts" who get their info from mass (dufus) media.

    Note: It's less than 9000 words long and an easy read.

    Hey Jacques,

    Glad you enjoyed it, that article( and Sniegoski’s excellent book transparent cabal) deserve a wider audience.

    Btw, Pepe Escobar of Asia Times conducted an eye opening interview in Iran.

    Ahmad Bahmani is the Europe and Americas adviser to Ali Akbar Velayati, who happens to be the top foreign policy adviser to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. So what Bahmani says comes from the highest levels of the Iranian government.

    Bahmani received Asia Times for an exclusive exchange of ideas in an unassuming office in Tehran.

    http://www.atimes.com/article/tehran-eyes-path-ahead-after-us-withdrawal-from-nuclear-pact/

    Key topics/highlights of the interview

    On the New World Order
    On Barjam (how the JCPOA is referred to in Iran)
    On Iranian psychology
    On Iranian resilience
    On regional alliances
    On the near future
    On Israel
    On Israel’s bombing of the T4 base in Syria

    Cheers

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  131. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zumbuddi
    Compared to Israel, Hamas and the Palestinia s are on a fast-track.

    Jews started colonizing Palestine at latest by 1910.
    In 1930, the project was still sparse and in danger of financial collspse.

    British sponsorship and protection from 1917 to 1948 provided the security guarantee rich Jews required before investing in the project --ideology is one thing but busi eds is business.
    While under the British security blamket, mansions were built for Chain Weizmann & the Schockens; banking was established and a hospital, and the beginnings of Hebrew University.
    In addition to the British providing security in the period 1917 - 1948, Germans provided organizational, cultural and intellectual talent and expertise as well as an infusion of capital. This carried Israel for a time, but the Talmudist Polish Jews who took over Israel never, in all their history, developed the ability to get along with others, not even other Jews.

    Based on ancient as well as more recent bonds among Iran, Germany, and Jews, Iran served as Israel's security "pillar" 1948 - 1979, Iran sharing its oil wealth with still-struggling Israel. By the mid-1960s, Jews opened a major artery into the German body politic/money vault and has vampires on that revenue stream ever since.

    Still, and with all these advantages and supports, well into the 1980s, Israel had not achieved cultural cohesion nor economic vigor.

    Only with the injection of Russian brain power, created by Russian taxpayers then subsidized to migrate by American taxpayers -- only then did Israel start to develop a sound evonomy. "Startup Nation" is very young and was NOT a home-grown phenomenon; there are serious doubts whether Israel's education system can equal the capacities migrated in from Germany and Russia.

    Now, what has Hamas accomished, and what infusions of aid, security, brain power have the Palestinians enjoyed?

    Can you, iffen, construct a. one-to-one matching list of gifts and benefits to Palestine that parallels those to Israel?

    Or is the situation quite the reverse, as Paul C Roberts wrote -- If Gaza builds a house, Israel destroys it; Gaza raises a child, Israel kills him; Gaza elects a leader, Israel vilified and undermines him.

    All things considered, iffen, for perseverance, for reourcefulness, for character and grace, Palestinians earned fullest accolades.

    Israel is an abject failure,

    Great post!!!

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  132. L.K says:
    @RobinG
    Question for Phil.....

    What do you know about the assertion that US/UK, (CIA, along with MI6, et al), not only installed the Shah in 1953, but, finding him no longer suitable, facilitated his removal in 1978-79?

    There was some discussion of this in comments at Mike Whitmey's "Did Trump Scrap the Nuke's Deal to Pay Back His Pro-Israel Campaign Donors?"

    The part about the CIA/MI6 1953 coup is by now backed by declassified documents…

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/20/64-years-later-cia-finally-releases-details-of-iranian-coup-iran-tehran-oil/

    64 Years Later, CIA Finally Releases Details of Iranian Coup

    On August 19, 1953, democratically-elected Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh was overthrown in a coup orchestrated by the CIA and British intelligence, after having nationalized the oil industry.

    Declassified documents released last week shed light on the Central Intelligence Agency’s central role in the 1953 coup that brought down Iranian Prime Minister Muhammad Mossadegh, fueling a surge of nationalism which culminated in the 1979 Iranian Revolution and poisoning U.S.-Iran relations into the 21st century.

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  133. @George Jansen
    The Christian religion thrived even as the Romans took desperate measures to try and suppress it. Why is it that a religion, when faced with tyrannical oppression, is still able to increase its following? In Vietnam, despite huge body counts the population of Vietnam stayed constant. This should create fear in the hearts of all nations with Muslim minorities. The flip side of this is, what has it done or will continue to do to the Total fertility rate in Israel? How many Israeli couples want to raise children, especially boys who may become snipers and man the 500 checkpoints scattered throughout the West Bank and Jerusalem or man the security patrol in every part of the country? Don’t even ask how Israel can finance all this security without American foreign aid?
    During our Sunday’s church service, the congregation asked for prayer for people who had been flooded out by spring snowmelt or those in the shadows of Kilauea on the big island. After my good wife tried but failed to dissuade me I took the bold step of publicly stating that snipers shooting into crowds of Palestinians may not be a good way to bring people to Christ. This is definitely not the type of thing that makes me want to stand up for Jesus or make Jews proud of their heritage. Amongst good Christians, it is widely believed that the chosen people hold the key to the second coming and any criticism of Israel will cause you to be driven from the congregation and go straight to hell. The hell part I’m not sure about but I am the largest contributor, in the church so that may buy me some forgiveness.
    In church, the events in the Middle East are always given as proof that the second coming is imminent and he will save his chosen people. In the good book, it is written that no one knows the hour or day and that Christ will arrival like a thief in the night. This is all well and good but Christians claim the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb and its’ invention may not have been a bad thing.
    So how is this Middle East conflict going to end?
    Snipers’ firing into crowds of innocent people is definitely not a good way to achieve reconciliation.
    Plan A. the most commonly accepted is the second coming.
    Plan B. America and Israel versus the world is an expensive stalemate. The two or three very wealthy Jewish political contributors who are able to purchase America’s unconditional support of Israel are approaching the end of their life expectancy. The cost of this military intervention keeps rising and threatens to alienate our allies and bankrupting the nation. This plan will continue to create very large piles of corpses.
    My scenario or Plan C. is that the Birth rate of Israelis and emigration out of Israel by its’ best minds will continue; while Christianity continues to fall out of vogue here at home. Palestinians will be in a better negotiating position and the Israelis will have to bargain in good faith. This appears to be the only way out for everyone. Both groups need each other and nobody is going anywhere.

    ” . . . but Christians claim the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. ”

    No, The scriptural reference is in the contained context of christ’s admonitions of end times.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24&version=NIV

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  134. L.K says:
    @Art
    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    What dishonesty!

    Jews are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    It is amazing what little respect the Jews have for truth and reality. They insult us.

    Getting in people’s face and forcing an obvious lying on them - is major stupid – but all the Jews do it (95%).

    There are 7,000,000,000 people who do not believe this guy (voted at the UN).

    A Jew by culture is a greedy dishonest jerk – only when he acts in a Western manner does he achieve success.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Maintain Hope --- Seek Idealism --- Art

    Yep.

    Israeli dissident Gilad Atzmon has just written a new piece after the Gaza massacre. In it he states:

    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018/5/19/onaccountability-in-the-light-of-israeli-brutality

    I remain firmly behind those words that upset Mr. Adlington “…maybe the time is ripe for Jewish and Zionist organisations to draw the real and most important lesson from the Holocaust. Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.” http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/holocaust-day-the-time-is-ripe-for-a-jewish-apology.html

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    I have long held the position that the biggest problem with the Jews is their dishonesty, which directly leads to their incapability for any introspection. Everything is always someone else's fault. Nothing is ever their own damn fault. Yes it's horrible that the holocaust happened, but what did the Jews do that made Hitler hate them so much he would go to war to exterminate them? It takes two to tango. One side cannot be completely blameless. Their inability to self-critique will cause them to continue to make the same mistakes and engender the same kind of resentment over and over again. And now they have inculcated the brainless blacks with the same toxic victim mentality.

    Instead of making the world a better place with their higher intelligence, Jews manage to make the world a worse place for everyone. Are they God's chosen or Satan's?

    , @sarz
    Gilad knows damn well that the Holocaust story is a crock of shit. But he keeps pushing it as if real. One more time: Please stop stop promoting that lie, Gilad.
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  135. annamaria says:
    @Momus
    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history - it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn't stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don't think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

    “… the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems..”
    – Poor Momus. It is so yesterday to be upset about “racist propaganda” when the leading US ziocons have been the leading supporters and promoters of neo-Nazis. Tell the Kagans’ clan that “Holocaust denial is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory”. The Kagans are the true makers of history in Ukraine where it is OK (after the Nuland-led regime change in 2014) to desecrate Jewish cemeteries and abuse WWII veterans.
    The louder you bloviate about holocaust biz, the greater is the cognitive dissonance between the Zionists’ “righteous” suppression of the freedom of speech and their actual promoting, strengthening, and supporting the neo-fascist movement in Ukraine.
    Momus writes, “Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.” — Thank you. The insulting activities of ziocons towards the memory of victims of the WWII in Ukraine, Poland, Russia, and the Baltic States are so notorious and well known, that the whole ziocon cabal must be investigated for the promoting the neo-Nazism and banderism.
    The ziocon-initiated neo-Nazi renaissance has been spilling to Poland: “Ukrainian nationalists stand behind desecration of Jewish cemetery:” https://www.reddit.com/r/antisemitism/comments/5npnj5/ukrainian_nationalists_stand_behind_desecration/
    “Jewish Cemetery Vandalized in Ukraine Town ‘Cleansed’ by the Nazis of Its Jews:” https://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/3762941/jewish/Jewish-Cemetery-Vandalized-in-Ukraine-Town-Cleansed-by-the-Nazis-of-Its-Jews.htm
    “Nazi Desecration of Monument at Babyn Yar:” https://ukrainesolidaritycampaign.org/2014/11/19/nazi-desecration-of-monument-at-babyn-yar/
    “In a 72-page document published by the Israeli Ministry for Diaspora Affairs, Ukraine was named as the leading country of the post-Soviet space, in terms of a number of verbal attacks and violent actions against Jews, their property, shrines and community institutions.” https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/01/israel-announces-ukraine-as-most-anti/

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  136. iffen says:
    @Incitatus
    "I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda."

    Agree. But that’s the only card Hamas has to play. No ‘nation’ will be permitted by Likud. It would mean their (Likud) downfall.

    Sometimes enemies are more useful as enemies.

    Sometimes enemies are more useful as enemies.

    I guess I could compliment Israel for doing their part, but I don’t see a lot of options available to them.

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    "I guess I could compliment Israel for doing their part, but I don’t see a lot of options available to them."

    Non-lethal intervention (tear gas, water cannon, etc.), only when absolutely necessary?

    Dichter’s “If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem” seems criminally suggestive, no better than fringe Palestinian rhetoric.
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  137. anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:

    The average Iranian IQ is 84. Most of the population of Asiatic stock. They are Muslims. There is nothing in Iran for us.

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  138. ANON[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @George Jansen
    The Christian religion thrived even as the Romans took desperate measures to try and suppress it. Why is it that a religion, when faced with tyrannical oppression, is still able to increase its following? In Vietnam, despite huge body counts the population of Vietnam stayed constant. This should create fear in the hearts of all nations with Muslim minorities. The flip side of this is, what has it done or will continue to do to the Total fertility rate in Israel? How many Israeli couples want to raise children, especially boys who may become snipers and man the 500 checkpoints scattered throughout the West Bank and Jerusalem or man the security patrol in every part of the country? Don’t even ask how Israel can finance all this security without American foreign aid?
    During our Sunday’s church service, the congregation asked for prayer for people who had been flooded out by spring snowmelt or those in the shadows of Kilauea on the big island. After my good wife tried but failed to dissuade me I took the bold step of publicly stating that snipers shooting into crowds of Palestinians may not be a good way to bring people to Christ. This is definitely not the type of thing that makes me want to stand up for Jesus or make Jews proud of their heritage. Amongst good Christians, it is widely believed that the chosen people hold the key to the second coming and any criticism of Israel will cause you to be driven from the congregation and go straight to hell. The hell part I’m not sure about but I am the largest contributor, in the church so that may buy me some forgiveness.
    In church, the events in the Middle East are always given as proof that the second coming is imminent and he will save his chosen people. In the good book, it is written that no one knows the hour or day and that Christ will arrival like a thief in the night. This is all well and good but Christians claim the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb and its’ invention may not have been a bad thing.
    So how is this Middle East conflict going to end?
    Snipers’ firing into crowds of innocent people is definitely not a good way to achieve reconciliation.
    Plan A. the most commonly accepted is the second coming.
    Plan B. America and Israel versus the world is an expensive stalemate. The two or three very wealthy Jewish political contributors who are able to purchase America’s unconditional support of Israel are approaching the end of their life expectancy. The cost of this military intervention keeps rising and threatens to alienate our allies and bankrupting the nation. This plan will continue to create very large piles of corpses.
    My scenario or Plan C. is that the Birth rate of Israelis and emigration out of Israel by its’ best minds will continue; while Christianity continues to fall out of vogue here at home. Palestinians will be in a better negotiating position and the Israelis will have to bargain in good faith. This appears to be the only way out for everyone. Both groups need each other and nobody is going anywhere.

    Amongst good Christians, it is widely believed that the chosen people hold the key to the second coming and any criticism of Israel will cause you to be driven from the congregation and go straight to hell. . . .
    In church, the events in the Middle East are always given as proof that the second coming is imminent and he will save his chosen people. In the good book, it is written that no one knows the hour or day and that Christ will arrival like a thief in the night. . . . the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. .

    WTF is “good” or “Christian” about that pile of irrational pseudo-spiritual mumbo-jumbo? Did you ever think about it under a cold, harsh light of logic?

    What is so important or significant about a “second coming?”
    Second coming of What, exactly? An orgasm? Santa Claus? JFK?

    What? Who?
    What’s going to happen on the Second coming event that is so important, so significant that it’s worth killing hundreds of millions of people, stealing their homes and futures?

    Are you even going to be around for it?
    Let’s say you’re 45 years old.
    The Second Coming not having occurred in the last 2000 years, give or take, the odds are you are going to be dead before The Event for which you have been “the biggest contributor” occurs.
    Sheldon Adelson smiles.
    All your contributions down his gold-plated toilet into his IDF-armored vault.
    The House always wins.
    Sucker.

    It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb and its’ invention may not have been a bad thing

    More “good Christian” learning, George Jensen?
    Do the people who were incinerated by “the bomb” share your sentiment?
    Have you ever spent a moment — in good Christian prayer, of course — considering that killing people in huge numbers is not something Jesus spent a lot of time advocating?

    “It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb”

    We haven’t had a war that started on Tuesday, Dec. 8, 1941 either. What does that prove?

    Do “good Christians” believe that “wars between major powers” kill fewer people than wars in which a major power bombs the hell out of a country that cannot proportionally defend itself?

    What criteria do “good Christians” apply to a war in which only one power is a major power?

    It’s easy to forget because
    a. Americans — “good Christians” — have almost never been on the dying end of those wars or those bombs;
    b. we’ve cleverly exonerated ourselves from culpability for crimes against humanity on a hitherto unimagined scale in those wars that were “between two major powers,”
    c.

    its’ invention may not have been a bad thing

    If that’s the case, George Jensen, and if that’s what “good Christians” believe, that “the invention of the bomb may not have been a bad thing,” then more nations should have bombs, thereby expanding the distribution of things that are “not bad.”

    Right?

    I am the largest contributor, in the church

    why in the world do you support such mind-numbing, soul-shriveling, law-breaking nonsense?

    Don’t you consider yourself complicit in Israel’s crimes?

    Tell this forum how much you contribute to support the really goofy notions that you laid out and that your money helps to reinforce.

    Now, how many Palestinian dead people does your money redeem?

    Think in REAL terms, man, not some whack-a-doodle notions about somebody coming down from the sky then doing the sequel.

    “good Christians.”

    The problem, not the solution.

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  139. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    So RobinG has a "Question for Phil….."

    Hi RobinG,

    Why petition P.G. for that?!!

    With his usual Christian-Zionist spin, I predict even iffen can answer that one.

    When you make no sense, Chuck….. you really make no sense. Perhaps you misunderstood the question. But congrats on your LTE. Did you submit the picture of Ray, or did the editors do that on their own?

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    RobinG astutely noticed: "When you make no sense, Chuck….. you really make no sense."

    Hi RobinG,

    Close to how the old & catchy ZUS Army recruiting-slogan went, I try to "be all that I can be" in all forms of understanding and misunderstanding.

    F.y.i, it was The Times-Tribune letters-editor who offered the picture of Ray upon the floor. And I give them credit for doing so. Also, I emailed Mr. McGovern to offer goodwill & "thanks" for his extraordinary service

    Thanks, RobinG. Am pleased L.K. supplied the information you requested on Mossadegh's fate.
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  140. @L.K
    momus, zionist hasbaraRat and unintentional clown goes:
    "The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted."

    pffffhHAHAHHAHAHAHA ... thanks for the laugh, liar.

    Well, since you keep lying about this thread after thread, I'll keep reminding you of the truth.
    Several of the most important holohoax historians have admitted, discreetly & grudgingly, that evidence to support the official holohoax atrocity propaganda is very much lacking.

    ..already in 1951, the Jew Léon Poliakov, who had been part of the French delegation at the Nuremberg show trials (1945-1946), stated his conclusion that we had at our disposal an overabundance of documents for all points of the history of the Third Reich, with the exception of one point alone: the “campaign to exterminate the Jews”. For this, he wrote, “No document remains, perhaps none has ever existed” (Bréviaire de la haine, Paris, Calmann-Lévy, 1974 [1951], p. 171; English version: Harvest of Hate, New York, Holocaust Library, 1979, revised and expanded edition)
     
    It is not just documentary evidence that is missing.. . it is also the material evidence which should be abundant, but in fact does not exist. For example:
    During an interview to the Canadian STAR, 27 December 2009, prominent Jewish holohoax “historian” and Auschwitz ‘expert’, Robert Jan van Pelt, stated:

    We have no material or forensic evidence to support eyewitness reports of gassings…
    Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove
    "

     

    Comparing the "evidence" for the official tales re Auschwitz to the AR camps, the same van Pelt, in his 'The Case for Auschwitz: Evidence from the Irving Trial', p.5, writes:

    "The evidence for the role of Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor[...] is much less abundant(than Auschwitz)."There are very few eyewitnesses, no confession that can compare to that given by Höss, no significant remains, and few archival sources."

     

    So, the evidence for Auschwitz is next to nothing - plus there is abundant evidence refuting the atrocity propaganda - but the evidence for the Aktion Reinhardt camps is, according to Pelt himself, even much less than at Auschwitz, which is just about zero. Concerning the 'confessions' of Höss though, another famous holohoax "historian", the miserable shabbos goy, Christopher Browning, in his 'The Origins of the Final Solution: The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy', September 1939-March 1942 (University of Nebraska Press and Yad Vashem :-) , 2004), p.544 note.169, writes:“...the testimonies of especially Höss and to some extent Eichmann are confused, contradictory, self-serving, and not credible.”

    The above are but just a few examples... and that, shill, is the reason for all the censorship around the holohoax, the most taboo subject of all.

    nicely done L.K

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  141. @Patricus
    Desert Fox, it would be too complimentary to call you a Jew hater. You are self deluded.

    Israel doesn't control the US. Jews are 1.7% of the country and shrinking. Those serving as elected representatives have to win their votes from a majority of non Jews. Are all these gentiles willing stooges of the Zionists?

    It is amazing the Jews of 100 years ago were able to anticipate future wars so precisely. Sad to say, our foolish middle eastern wars were designed and implemented by gentiles.

    All knowing and all seeing Jews have ruined your wretched life? Try getting a girlfriend and a job. As a white man I am ashamed to see a fellow white man crawl (maybe you are an aborigine). Dislike Jews if you must but stop giving them imaginary super powers. You need psychological help.

    Plenty of Jews died on 911. They are overrepresented in New York.

    Read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION and the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and by the way I do not hate the Jews as the vast majority are not involved in what the Zionists have done and are doing to America.

    Read Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution to see what the Zionists did to Russia and these are the very type of Zionists who are destroying America via the wars we are forced to fight for Israel and the wars ie WWI and on down to this very day that we have fought for the Zionist bankers who own the FED and the IRS.

    The Zionists have a goal of a NWO ie a Zionist controlled ONE WORLD GOV, suggest y0u do some research on this and yes Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911, that is a fact, suggest you do some research on this also.

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    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.
    , @Momus
    You need to do some research not suck up the benthos fecal matter fed to you.

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

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  142. iffen says:
    @Zumbuddi
    "Liquidation of Gaza . . . would require didposal of 2 000 000 corpses."

    Another clear indication how much smarter Jews are than anybody else, especially Germans.

    Dumb Germans hauled millions of Jews thousands of miles to specially constructed, equipped and manned facilities to gas then cremate then bury then dig up and cremate again. All they got for their efforts was soap and lampshades. (Who has that many lamps anyway?)

    Jews, on the other hand, shoot 'em in situ and let the dying bury the dead.
    Spiff Spott.

    Jews, on the other hand, shoot ‘em in situ and let the dying bury the dead.

    And some foolish people argue that Jews are not smarter than the average bears.

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  143. Sam Shama says:
    @L.K
    sam shameless, the Zionist microbe: "Evidently, you are quite upset, blah, blah, blah...."

    Anonymous[107]'s reply to your usual BS/obfuscation was spot on and drove you "apoplectic".
    :-P

    L.K. what a delight to see you!

    Hope the caretaker at the reptile enclosure is taking good care of your mother’s rat ration while you are away slithering into our view?

    But do tell me, have you found gainful employment yet? I know, I know the circuses are a bit busy these days with mentalists and their likes, so the reptilian act takes a backseat. What can an honest reptile hybrid do? Kepp me abreast of your progress, won’t you?

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    Hope the caretaker at the reptile enclosure is taking good care of your mother’s rat ration while you are away slithering into our view?

    Hmm --- what kind of a reptilian cabal would mendaciously claim that their people were made into soap and lamp shades --- all with the express goal of harming another people?

    Shame shame!

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Maintain Hope --- Seek Idealism --- Art

    p.s. The Jews have been doing it for 70 years - when will it end - how will it end?
    , @Hessler
    I can sense some serious butt Hurt here LOLOL
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  144. iffen says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    So RobinG has a "Question for Phil….."

    Hi RobinG,

    Why petition P.G. for that?!!

    With his usual Christian-Zionist spin, I predict even iffen can answer that one.

    I predict even iffen can answer that one.

    I would need to know where PG was stationed in the late 70′s in order to answer this one, Woodchuck.

    How’s the shack-up with Melissa going?

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    Ever self deluded & lost, & compassionate, iffen asked me: "How’s the shack-up with Melissa going?"

    Hi iffen,

    The shack-up with Melissa is (hubba-hubba!) akbar, and if you don't mind my asking, does the Maven Shama permit you to shack-up & indulge "sloppy seconds" with his mares?

    Thanks!
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  145. @RobinG
    When you make no sense, Chuck..... you really make no sense. Perhaps you misunderstood the question. But congrats on your LTE. Did you submit the picture of Ray, or did the editors do that on their own?

    RobinG astutely noticed: “When you make no sense, Chuck….. you really make no sense.”

    Hi RobinG,

    Close to how the old & catchy ZUS Army recruiting-slogan went, I try to “be all that I can be” in all forms of understanding and misunderstanding.

    F.y.i, it was The Times-Tribune letters-editor who offered the picture of Ray upon the floor. And I give them credit for doing so. Also, I emailed Mr. McGovern to offer goodwill & “thanks” for his extraordinary service

    Thanks, RobinG. Am pleased L.K. supplied the information you requested on Mossadegh’s fate.

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    No, sigh... Mossadegh’s fate is common knowledge. It's CIA role in the fall of the Shah that I inquired. [And not the stupid, Khomeini half British Indian conspiracy version, either.] At least that putz iffen can read.
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  146. Iris says:
    @Momus
    You could not know what the result of the warning fire was: a bruise or a wound.

    Getting hit with a rubber bullet in the leg will drop you like a bag of shit; as so many of these 'kill' vids show.

    If I was hit Palo I would be more worried about the possible injury complications caused by my brothers picking me up by the extremities and racing off with me.

    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they’ve been brought to hospital.

    These facts have been consistently reported by eminent health professionals volunteering in Gaza:

    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Gaza-le-professeur-Oberlin-constate-les-blessures-des-Palestiniens-50968.html

    You are a piece of filth without a shred of humanity in you.

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    Getting slightly crude.

    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they’ve been brought to hospital.
     
    You sure this is the proper target audience for such.....work?

    You appear to be on the game. Good.
    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C'mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Say, something which would, most likely, put, say, a British soldier in a prison for murder.

    As, say:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44054776
    With all this video coverage (impossible during "Troubles") that shouldn't be a problem.

    You call.
    , @Momus
    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.
    These warnings were ignored and Hamas's aim of breaking into Israel to kill and create mayhem was revealed. Security measures were ramped up.
    In common with security and police force procedure around the world in those situations hollow point ammo is used to shock the target and to avoid a high velocity round travelling through and hitting others.
    Re the chemical attacks. Is there an independent cite of chemical weapons being used; or is that a filthy slander from an anti semite bereft of any impartiality?
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  147. Sam Shama says:
    @anonymous

    [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]
     
    ummm.

    hmm.

    [scratching head]

    [btw how do you know I am Jewish? ]

    Oooo

    ah, yes!

    Archives!!
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Sam+Shama

    Ron Unz, what a guy! Thought of everything!


    sheesh

    Well ok, I suppose; although your frenzied reply suggests otherwise. It is not the reply of an insecure poster who could not muster the courage to write under their usual handle while indulging in a fit of insults?

    Why the insults? “Jewy Jew”, “Jewish Devil”, etc. Do you find the suggestion of cultural and business exchanges objectionable? I should really like to know.

    Stay well anonymous[107]

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    Why the insults? “Jewy Jew”, “Jewish Devil”, etc.
     
    They've been called far worse, and for damned good reason, so you'd best shut-the-hell up and appreciate the good times and free ride you're having right now.

    As I recall from Sunday School class, the Palestinian prophet, Jesus of Nazareth had some choice words for you self-appointed chosen people.

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  148. @iffen
    I predict even iffen can answer that one.

    I would need to know where PG was stationed in the late 70's in order to answer this one, Woodchuck.

    How's the shack-up with Melissa going?

    Ever self deluded & lost, & compassionate, iffen asked me: “How’s the shack-up with Melissa going?”

    Hi iffen,

    The shack-up with Melissa is (hubba-hubba!) akbar, and if you don’t mind my asking, does the Maven Shama permit you to shack-up & indulge “sloppy seconds” with his mares?

    Thanks!

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    Neigh!
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  149. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    RobinG astutely noticed: "When you make no sense, Chuck….. you really make no sense."

    Hi RobinG,

    Close to how the old & catchy ZUS Army recruiting-slogan went, I try to "be all that I can be" in all forms of understanding and misunderstanding.

    F.y.i, it was The Times-Tribune letters-editor who offered the picture of Ray upon the floor. And I give them credit for doing so. Also, I emailed Mr. McGovern to offer goodwill & "thanks" for his extraordinary service

    Thanks, RobinG. Am pleased L.K. supplied the information you requested on Mossadegh's fate.

    No, sigh… Mossadegh’s fate is common knowledge. It’s CIA role in the fall of the Shah that I inquired. [And not the stupid, Khomeini half British Indian conspiracy version, either.] At least that putz iffen can read.

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    At least that putz iffen can read.

    You are a cut above your fellow travelers. Every one of them would have written "that dishonest putz iffen."
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  150. llloyd says: • Website
    @anon

    What is the solution? Improve the conditions by removing the blockade except for weaponry. Rehabilitate the inmates until they could actually be let out. Maybe they could then go on a shopping spree in Tel Aviv.
     
    Thank goodness!!

    I thought I was the only one who noticed all those signs the Palestinians were waving:

    WE JUST WANT TO GO SHOPPING!!

    All we want is a trip to the Mall!!

    Walmart or Bust!

    brought a tear to me eye, it did.

    My comment on shopping spree was meant ironically. That was the disgusting words used by the Zionist American media to describe the temporary liberation of the Gazans into Egypt about ten years ago. There was a time the Gazans could take bus rides into Cairo and Tel Aviv. At the time after Oslo, Gaza was made a sister city of Tel Aviv. Gaza as a free prosperous city State was possible until the psychos took over Israel and have kept bombing every step of Gazan progress. Gazan air port, power station. All destroyed by the psychos in Jerusalem.

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  151. peterAUS says:
    @Iris
    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they've been brought to hospital.

    These facts have been consistently reported by eminent health professionals volunteering in Gaza:

    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Gaza-le-professeur-Oberlin-constate-les-blessures-des-Palestiniens-50968.html

    You are a piece of filth without a shred of humanity in you.

    Getting slightly crude.

    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they’ve been brought to hospital.

    You sure this is the proper target audience for such…..work?

    You appear to be on the game. Good.
    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C’mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Say, something which would, most likely, put, say, a British soldier in a prison for murder.

    As, say:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44054776

    With all this video coverage (impossible during “Troubles”) that shouldn’t be a problem.

    You call.

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    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C’mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).
     
    Could you, please post one link to any credible material which clearly proves "Ay-rabs" did 9/11?

    Or that the Germans gassed 6 million?

    Or that Iran is an existential threat to either the US or Israel?

    Clearly you and your ilk are shooting blanks (insult intended).
    , @Art
    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?

    Poor AUS – their peter can type. He is insulting and an embarrassment.

    AUS is a fine Western nation – peter is an anti-Western, failing, false narrative popper.

    Art

    p.s. Why would a Western person lie for the Jews? Really!

    p.s. If you support the Israelis – you have to lie.
    , @Iris
    A video of the "greatest democracy in the ME"'s military, beating and abusing wounded Palestinians they just shot, and attacking the unarmed first-aiders and nurses coming to the rescue.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMNGpP26vYk

    Your ilk belongs to a Nuremberg tribunal.
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  152. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @mark green
    Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It's not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become 'speech crimes', carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    'Denying' the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel's on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose 'national interests' (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They're real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran--a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US--is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there's plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The 'military-industrial complex'. And of course there's Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    Sure, there’s plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The ‘military-industrial complex’. And of course there’s Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    They are all one and the same, deep state = military industrial complex = Israel lobby = msm = jews. Trump is being subjugated thanks to his son-in-law, he’s trying to fight his way out.

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  153. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @turtle

    “has enough bullets for everyone. If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem.”
     
    As we know, killing is relatively easy.
    However, corpse disposal can be a major problem.
    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.
    Clearly, the facilities are not yet in place to do so.

    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.
    Clearly, the facilities are not yet in place to do so.

    Such facilities have been in place since WWII, one would say the Jews are quite familiar with them.

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  154. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake
    If not for Anglo-Puritanism being a Judaizing heresy, and archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell having made alliance with Jews, inviting them back into England granting them special rights and privileges (doing so specifically to have the money needed to keep warring to destroy non-Anglo-Saxon white Christians and their local cultures), and the British Empire growing from that alliance to spread Judaizing culture around the globe, Jews never could have acquired the cultural and moral control of the US they have. And without the US replacing the UK as the Boss of the Globalist WASP-run, WASP-based Empire, Jews could not have the controls over the world they now do.

    WASP culture was absolutely necessary to getting us here. WASP culture is necessary to keeping this mess of horrors going.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem. They are twined.

    Sounds like what you’re saying is Jews are a parasitic species that cannot thrive outside its host. The two questions are:

    1) can you kill the parasites without killing the host? and

    2) can you kill the host without killing the parasites?

    Both are possible.

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  155. Art says:
    @Sam Shama
    L.K. what a delight to see you!

    Hope the caretaker at the reptile enclosure is taking good care of your mother's rat ration while you are away slithering into our view?

    But do tell me, have you found gainful employment yet? I know, I know the circuses are a bit busy these days with mentalists and their likes, so the reptilian act takes a backseat. What can an honest reptile hybrid do? Kepp me abreast of your progress, won't you?

    Hope the caretaker at the reptile enclosure is taking good care of your mother’s rat ration while you are away slithering into our view?

    Hmm — what kind of a reptilian cabal would mendaciously claim that their people were made into soap and lamp shades — all with the express goal of harming another people?

    Shame shame!

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

    p.s. The Jews have been doing it for 70 years – when will it end – how will it end?

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  156. N. P. says:

    The Rothschilds’ March To WWIII

    Why Trump Is A Rothschild Tool

    https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/

    NATO UK:

    https://www.chathamhouse.org/

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  157. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K
    Yep.

    Israeli dissident Gilad Atzmon has just written a new piece after the Gaza massacre. In it he states:
    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018/5/19/onaccountability-in-the-light-of-israeli-brutality

    I remain firmly behind those words that upset Mr. Adlington “…maybe the time is ripe for Jewish and Zionist organisations to draw the real and most important lesson from the Holocaust. Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.” http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/holocaust-day-the-time-is-ripe-for-a-jewish-apology.html
     

    I have long held the position that the biggest problem with the Jews is their dishonesty, which directly leads to their incapability for any introspection. Everything is always someone else’s fault. Nothing is ever their own damn fault. Yes it’s horrible that the holocaust happened, but what did the Jews do that made Hitler hate them so much he would go to war to exterminate them? It takes two to tango. One side cannot be completely blameless. Their inability to self-critique will cause them to continue to make the same mistakes and engender the same kind of resentment over and over again. And now they have inculcated the brainless blacks with the same toxic victim mentality.

    Instead of making the world a better place with their higher intelligence, Jews manage to make the world a worse place for everyone. Are they God’s chosen or Satan’s?

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    It is quite clear why Hitler sent jews to concentration camps.
    In a 1939 speech he threatened them that 'should they again cause a world war, they themselves ran the chance of being ausgerottet'.
    Ausgerottet at the time was not genocide, but 'weeding out'.
    As far as I can see the Madagaskar plan, moving all jews from camps after the war to the island, was not inconsistent with 'ausrotten'.
    Hans Jansen, ‘Der Madagaskar Plan, Die beabsichtigte Deportation der europäischen Juden nach Madagaskar’, München 1997
    Trans 'the planned deportation of European jews to Madagaskar'.
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  158. Biff says:
    @Momus

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped?
     
    Duped about what?

    Duped about what?

    And he makes my point.

    Q: How do you keep a Pollack in suspense?

    A: I’ll tell you tomorrow.

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  159. rejection of JCPOA was a watershed moment.

    When the Joint Plan deal was signed I thought that had the potential to be a “watershed moment” as well. Even though I never expected a possibility of even minimal diplomatic relations. The Mosaddeq coup and the US embassy trashing seem like two obstacles that are impossible to work through. But if the deal –such a difficult negotiation– could have been successful maybe a slow process leading towards mutual respect was possible? I don’t believe there’s a chance of that now thanks to Trump and
    our question-free relationship of the conduct of Israel.

    Between the erratic Trump administration and a hostile Israel, Iran needs to practice dramatic outreach in its foreign policy with Europe to avoid war. I’m sure they will be following the US midterm elections with great interest.

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  160. Biff says:
    @peterAUS

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.
     
    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.
     
    I tried to find those videos. Not easy.....

    Examples:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92nBzhBbGA
    My take: inconclusive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLzRv_kNXU
    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg...or so I say).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF07HSsfGc
    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That's for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who's right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It's not medieval. It's ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.
     
    Yup. Emphasize on "burgeoning".

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.

    Look up the definition of a border – “a line between two States”. Gaza is not a State.
    Look up the definition of a prison wall, and you will find the truth.

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  161. Thanks for sharing, dear Phil. And I hope to see you again at the upcoming Ron Paul Conference August 18.

    You wrote:

    “The only attempt to censor the conference and its content has been, I would note, the blocking of sponsor New Horizon’s website on Google and presumably elsewhere in the Zionist/U.S. dominated social media and information-searching world.”

    As a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian, I just come right out with it: It’s JEW-DOMINATED, and JEW-OWNED media, social media and information-searching world.

    Google is owned by The Mossad and has been since its inception by funding Sergei Brin and Larry Page when they were students at Stanford back in the 90′s. Google is JEWGLE, it is JEW-OWNED.

    Here’s my point and trajectory.

    Jews are getting nervous, more and more “goys” are on to them including influential journalists.

    The millennials are against Israeli violence of Palestinians and have no interest in the HoloHoax scam. In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.

    So what’s the JEW to do?

    Not only continue de-ranking (like Unz Review has been de-ranked); censoring on JEWtoob; restricting PayPiss accounts; limiting searches to what’s acceptable to Jews (try ‘googling’ Israel’s ‘Samson Option’…nothing comes up. Do it on Bing and BINGO.

    The next phase by King Tut JEW (I’m on to you Momus, you JEW TROLL) is to threaten ISP’s with a letter from the ADL saying they’re sponsoring ‘hate sites.’

    MANY ISP’s and Web Hosting Services will succumb. But we can be TEN STEPS ahead of King KUCK Jew.

    Ron Unz, Jeff Rense, David Duke, and other ‘Truth Sites” need to develop independent internet infrastructures. I urge all of you who have prominent websites to embark on this. Feel free to write to me.

    +Brother Nathanael, Publisher Real Jew News @

    http://www.realjewnews.com/

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    Jews are getting nervous, more and more “goys” are on to them including influential journalists.
     
    Jews are always nervous. I'd be nervous too if I spent my life lying, stealing, defrauding, mocking, killing, enslaving, and despising goyim as well as "lesser" Jews..

    In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.
     
    I can think of some other uses. Restaurants? Gag me!!!
    , @Momus
    More benthos garbage. Samson Option, Israel's little joke, garners me hundreds of Google references.
    , @Sam Shama

    try ‘googling’ Israel’s ‘Samson Option’…nothing comes up.
     
    Here, let's try Googling 'Samson Option"

    https://www.google.com/search?q=samson+option&oq=Samson+option&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.6643j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Anything else, Brother?

    , @RobinG
    Scott Bennett is posting speakers at the conference. (Should copies be made, in case YouTube decides to censor?)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc4OZQnyNLw
    MICHAEL MALOOF, former Pentagon Official, speaking in Iran at the New Horizons Conference
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  162. @anon
    I have long held the position that the biggest problem with the Jews is their dishonesty, which directly leads to their incapability for any introspection. Everything is always someone else's fault. Nothing is ever their own damn fault. Yes it's horrible that the holocaust happened, but what did the Jews do that made Hitler hate them so much he would go to war to exterminate them? It takes two to tango. One side cannot be completely blameless. Their inability to self-critique will cause them to continue to make the same mistakes and engender the same kind of resentment over and over again. And now they have inculcated the brainless blacks with the same toxic victim mentality.

    Instead of making the world a better place with their higher intelligence, Jews manage to make the world a worse place for everyone. Are they God's chosen or Satan's?

    It is quite clear why Hitler sent jews to concentration camps.
    In a 1939 speech he threatened them that ‘should they again cause a world war, they themselves ran the chance of being ausgerottet’.
    Ausgerottet at the time was not genocide, but ‘weeding out’.
    As far as I can see the Madagaskar plan, moving all jews from camps after the war to the island, was not inconsistent with ‘ausrotten’.
    Hans Jansen, ‘Der Madagaskar Plan, Die beabsichtigte Deportation der europäischen Juden nach Madagaskar’, München 1997
    Trans ‘the planned deportation of European jews to Madagaskar’.

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    It is quite clear why Hitler sent jews to concentration camps.
    In a 1939 speech he threatened them that ‘should they again cause a world war, they themselves ran the chance of being ausgerottet’. Ausgerottet at the time was not genocide, but ‘weeding out’.

     
    Jilles, did Jews order the invasion of Poland 1 Sep 1939? Did Poles?

    Wind back the clock to 16 Sep 1919 – Adolf Hitler, graduate of the army propaganda course who serves in Karl Mayr’s intelligence department (under District Military Commander General Arnold von Möhl) writes “[Jews cannot be German, the Jew is a] leech upon the peoples of the world and from that follows [the end-goal of] rational anti-Semitism must be, without any compromise, the removal of the Jews” in a letter to Gemlich. Bear in mind, Adolf wasn’t German. Yet here he’s preaching disenfranchisement of German Jews. Why? Some were in the very Bavarian regiment in which he served. Let’s see. 1919. The German General Staff (Adolf’s employer) seeks to excuse starting and losing a war by scapegoat? It was everybody else’s (Jews, France, Freemasons, Civilians) fault? Whad'ya think?

    Jilles, you preach about what true Germans should feel. Easy for a Dutch economist (state-employee with a pension and health benefits?). Ready to pick up a gun and invade neighbors like Wilhelm II and Adolf required in 1914 and again in 1939? Was it easier for Dutch Nazis like you, sitting on the sidelines? Easier than the poor Germans you try to raise, once again, to Aryan pride? News: they’re dead, and their survivors know better. Why not concentrate on Gouda and tulips (how’s the crop this year?).

    “The Kaiser never wanted war, Hitler never wanted war.”
     
    Why did they pull the trigger?

    WW1: Austria-Hungary issues the first declaration of war [28 Jul on Serbia]; Germany the second [1 Aug on Russia]; Austria-Hungary launches the first offensive [shelling Belgrade 29 Jul]; Germany the second [invasion of Luxembourg 2 Aug]. First declarations of war, first offensives.

    WW2: Hitler, ignoring territorial guarantees by the UK and France, and the 1934 Deutsch-polnischer Nichtangriffspakt, invades Poland without declaring war 1 Sep 1939.

    Text from the Wilhelm II and from Hitler - direct quotes - implicate each in the cold-blooded planning and launching of world war that killed millions. Happy to provide both, though you – profligate title dropper on Unz – must know them. Why do you lie?

    I’m glad you traveled to the US on vacation, sad you found it so deficient. The new world is not a place for little souls who (on a state pension) exercise schoolteacher disproval while risking nothing other than pompous dignity. All while spewing manure that got millions of Germans killed in the 20C. Put it this way, Jilles. Want to revisit the grand old WW2 and WW1 days? Suit up, raise a regiment in the Netherlands, and invade a neighbor.
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  163. @DESERT FOX
    Read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION and the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and by the way I do not hate the Jews as the vast majority are not involved in what the Zionists have done and are doing to America.

    Read Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution to see what the Zionists did to Russia and these are the very type of Zionists who are destroying America via the wars we are forced to fight for Israel and the wars ie WWI and on down to this very day that we have fought for the Zionist bankers who own the FED and the IRS.

    The Zionists have a goal of a NWO ie a Zionist controlled ONE WORLD GOV, suggest y0u do some research on this and yes Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911, that is a fact, suggest you do some research on this also.

    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.

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    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.

     

    You are usually quite good at substantiating your points. Please substantiate that one.

    Even if forgeries, do they not describe much of what we see happening?
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  164. @Patricus
    Desert Fox, it would be too complimentary to call you a Jew hater. You are self deluded.

    Israel doesn't control the US. Jews are 1.7% of the country and shrinking. Those serving as elected representatives have to win their votes from a majority of non Jews. Are all these gentiles willing stooges of the Zionists?

    It is amazing the Jews of 100 years ago were able to anticipate future wars so precisely. Sad to say, our foolish middle eastern wars were designed and implemented by gentiles.

    All knowing and all seeing Jews have ruined your wretched life? Try getting a girlfriend and a job. As a white man I am ashamed to see a fellow white man crawl (maybe you are an aborigine). Dislike Jews if you must but stop giving them imaginary super powers. You need psychological help.

    Plenty of Jews died on 911. They are overrepresented in New York.

    According to the definition of the atheistic jews of themselves ‘anyone who feels connected to the jewish culture’, my estimate would be that the USA has some ten percent jews.
    I corresponded with a christian USA writer, whose grandfather, or great grandfather, forgot, in 1870 in Germany converted from judaism to christianity.
    In my opinion my correspondent still was a jew, his first loyalty to jews.
    One also sees this in his books.

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  165. @Biff
    Sounds like the Iranians are more plugged into world affairs than Americans. The Yankee media has been streamlined leaving them completely isolated from the rest of the world.

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped? The crash of the dollar is the only thing I can think of.

    A cab driver in Tehran knows more about the world affairs than Trump, Bolton and Pompeo combined!

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    Ahh, but can he influence them?
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  166. iffen says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Ever self deluded & lost, & compassionate, iffen asked me: "How’s the shack-up with Melissa going?"

    Hi iffen,

    The shack-up with Melissa is (hubba-hubba!) akbar, and if you don't mind my asking, does the Maven Shama permit you to shack-up & indulge "sloppy seconds" with his mares?

    Thanks!

    Neigh!

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  167. freebird says:

    Possibly a bit naive on the authors part. Undeniable that Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of world wide terror and that the country is trying to develop nuclear weapons with the capability of delivering them anywhere on the globe. ———- Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

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    Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    We don't need no stinking facts. Dem Jews what done it is all anyone needs to know.
    , @jacques sheete

    Need to fact facts (sic???) in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock.
     
    You mean, like your witless, vacuous, brainless comment?
    , @anon

    Undeniable that Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of world wide terror and that the country is trying to develop nuclear weapons with the capability of delivering them anywhere on the globe.
     
    In what way is Iran a sponsor of world wide terror? ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra are all sunni muslims not shiites like Iranians. 9/11 was carried out by 19 sunni muslims including 15 from Saudi Arabia. 99% of all terrors committed in western countries are by sunnis. If anything it is Saudi Arabia that is the biggest sponsor of world terror.

    Iran supports Hamas and Hamas' only target is Israel, because of their incursion into Lebanon and Gaza. Almost all western countries except the US have delisted Hamas as a terror organization. Iran is not a sponsor of world terror but Saudi Arabia is, it's time for CIA, the neocons and the Jew owned msm in America to tell the truth.

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  168. iffen says:
    @RobinG
    No, sigh... Mossadegh’s fate is common knowledge. It's CIA role in the fall of the Shah that I inquired. [And not the stupid, Khomeini half British Indian conspiracy version, either.] At least that putz iffen can read.

    At least that putz iffen can read.

    You are a cut above your fellow travelers. Every one of them would have written “that dishonest putz iffen.”

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  169. Momus says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Let me guess --

    Your girlfriend just finished first year law school. You got drunk together to celebrate, and over barf episodes and beer-breathe, she mentioned the term "judicial notice" and tried to explain it.

    Some cretins (benthos?) at the bar smashed some glasses & the gendarme was summoned -- causing your pickled brain to associate "public order" with "judicial notice."

    In a Freudian confession punctuated with burps, you revealed to your girlie-girl that you just weren't making the cut on your hasbara team; your retorts were tinny and unimaginative. Bosswoman said your commentary was "something your average Episcopalian might produce." The Episcopalian slur really got to you.

    In a rare moment of sobriety, girlie-girl, all excited, said, Momus mami, here's the solution: Judicial notice!
    Introduce this concept to your squad! It's genius! It'll catch-on like the clap, your boss will invite you over for shabbat, you'll get a raise and you can pay for my next abortion! Oh mami I love you!

    And so it came to pass: mami Momus took Judicial Notice for a test-drive on Unz while her girlfriend got a refill on her clindamycin.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
    Judicial notice is not a simplistic process;


    The court may judicially notice a fact that is not subject to reasonable dispute because it:
    (1) is generally known within the trial court’s territorial jurisdiction; or
    (2) can be accurately and readily determined from sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.

    (c) Taking Notice. The court:
    (1) may take judicial notice on its own; or
    (2) must take judicial notice if a party requests it and the court is supplied with the necessary information.

    . . .

    The usual method of establishing adjudicative facts in through the introduction of evidence, ordinarily consisting of the testimony of witnesses. If particular facts are outside of reasonable controversy, this process is dispensed with as unnecessary. A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_201
     

    In other words, one cannot drop the Judicial Notice bomb the way IDF drops Palestinian babies; the facts sought to be put on notice must be outside reasonable controversy and have a high degree of indisputability.

    The very fact that certain historical claims are maintained as facts under systems of duress, punishment, censorship and criminalization shrieks to high heaven that those "facts" do not enjoy a "high degree of indisputability."

    Back to the drawing board for you, Momus mami, and to vinegar douches for your אהובה

    Judicial notice is an established precedent in the US and in similar principal across the West.

    See here:

    IHR was a flogger denier group set up by Nazi William Carto.

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward. Represented by public interest attorney William John Cox, Mermelstein subsequently sued the IHR in the Superior Court of Los Angeles County for breach of contract, anticipatory repudiation, libel, injurious denial of established fact, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and declaratory relief On October 9, 1981, both parties in the Mermelstein case filed motions for summary judgment in consideration of which Judge Thomas T. Johnson of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County took “judicial notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944,” judicial notice meaning that the court treated the gas chambers as common knowledge, and therefore did not require evidence that the gas chambers existed. On August 5, 1985, Judge Robert A. Wenke entered a judgment based upon the Stipulation for Entry of Judgment agreed upon by the parties on July 22, 1985. The judgment required IHR and other defendants to pay $90,000 to Mermelstein and to issue a letter of apology to “Mr. Mel Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau and Buchenwald, and all other survivors of Auschwitz” for “pain, anguish and suffering” caused to them.

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    Yes, Judicial Notice is an established precedent, and that legal procedure rests on

    ~ sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.
    ~ facts are outside of reasonable controversy,
    ~ A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite.

    These characteristics do not apply to the ordained narratives of the holocaust ™

    The primary, or foundational notion of American legal process is that all parties are entitled to an unprejudiced hearing. That basic principle has not yet been applied to the so-called holocaust: the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing, and the Jewish side has been gathered and presented (relentlessly) in emotion-laden tones and downright mendacity, with German defendants under duress, torture, acknowledged psychological warfare.
    , @Svigor

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward.
     
    LOL. A Jew's word is "proof," if it's notarized. Jews are a trip.

    "As he later learned."

    In other words, hearsay. Even the testimony itself would be thrown out of court.

    That whole comment is a great example of why Jews are hated. No sense of decency.

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  170. iffen says:
    @freebird
    Possibly a bit naive on the authors part. Undeniable that Iran is the world's leading sponsor of world wide terror and that the country is trying to develop nuclear weapons with the capability of delivering them anywhere on the globe. ---------- Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    We don’t need no stinking facts. Dem Jews what done it is all anyone needs to know.

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    Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

     

    We don’t need no stinking facts. Dem Jews what done it is all anyone needs to know.
     
    We don’t need no stinking facts. Dem Nazis what done it is all anyone needs to know.
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  171. Momus says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION and the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and by the way I do not hate the Jews as the vast majority are not involved in what the Zionists have done and are doing to America.

    Read Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution to see what the Zionists did to Russia and these are the very type of Zionists who are destroying America via the wars we are forced to fight for Israel and the wars ie WWI and on down to this very day that we have fought for the Zionist bankers who own the FED and the IRS.

    The Zionists have a goal of a NWO ie a Zionist controlled ONE WORLD GOV, suggest y0u do some research on this and yes Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911, that is a fact, suggest you do some research on this also.

    You need to do some research not suck up the benthos fecal matter fed to you.

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

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    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.
     
    Like the Horrorcaust is a myth set up by the Zionists.
    , @annamaria
    But the documents showing Jacob Schiff financing the anti-Russian activities are real. Same with the documents showing the Jewish Bolsheviks' sadism against Russians.
    You seem to be in support of research. Well. There is a great documentary "Two Hundred Years Together" by Solzhenitsyn; the book is filled with the riches of factual material.
    The history of ziocons in the US is still in the making. See the Middle Eastern Wars for Israel on the US dime & limb. See also the ongoing process of banderization of Ukraine, courtesy of the leading US ziocons.
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  172. @Biff
    Sounds like the Iranians are more plugged into world affairs than Americans. The Yankee media has been streamlined leaving them completely isolated from the rest of the world.

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped? The crash of the dollar is the only thing I can think of.

    When the crash comes, there are going to be large numbers of elderly Americans living on good pensions who will all of a sudden be broke. Many of these will be conservative, Evangelical, Israel -worshippers who will be loud and angry because they can no longer go on their “little cruises” or visit Branson, Missouri next Christmas. With great glee, I will tell them – “Do you love being broke?; if so, thank an Israeli. And, also why don’t you personally thank your Congressman for pissing off the whole world to spite the Palestinians and the Iranians!”

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  173. @peterAUS
    Getting slightly crude.

    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they’ve been brought to hospital.
     
    You sure this is the proper target audience for such.....work?

    You appear to be on the game. Good.
    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C'mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Say, something which would, most likely, put, say, a British soldier in a prison for murder.

    As, say:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44054776
    With all this video coverage (impossible during "Troubles") that shouldn't be a problem.

    You call.

    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C’mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Could you, please post one link to any credible material which clearly proves “Ay-rabs” did 9/11?

    Or that the Germans gassed 6 million?

    Or that Iran is an existential threat to either the US or Israel?

    Clearly you and your ilk are shooting blanks (insult intended).

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  174. @jilles dykstra
    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.

    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.

    You are usually quite good at substantiating your points. Please substantiate that one.

    Even if forgeries, do they not describe much of what we see happening?

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    Jacques Sheete insightfully wrote: "
    Even if forgeries, do they not describe much of what we see happening?"

    Hi Jacques,

    They only want you to read & see what they want.

    Article below displays beautiful pictures that perhaps P.G. had the pleasure to see in Iran.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/16/561942/Iran-persian-garden

    Thanks, Brother!
    , @jilles dykstra
    Protocols of the Elders of Zion
    "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now." --Henry Ford, 2-17-21, whose newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, cited the Protocols as evidence of an alleged Jewish threat until at least 1927
    "To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion...." --Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery made in Russia for the Okhrana (secret police), which blames the Jews for the country's ills. It was first privately printed in 1897 and was made public in 1905. It is copied from a nineteenth century novel by Hermann Goedsche (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.
    The basic story was composed by Goedsche, a German novelist and anti-Semite who used the pseudonym of Sir John Retcliffe. Goedsche stole the main story from another writer, Maurice Joly, whose Dialogues in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864) involved a Hellish plot aimed at opposing Napoleon III. Goedsche's original contribution consists mainly of introducing Jews to do the plotting to take over the world.
    The Russians used big chunks of a Russian translation of Goedsche's novel, published it separately as the Protocols, and claimed they were authentic. Their purpose was political: to strengthen the czar Nicholas II's position by exposing his opponents as allies with those who were part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world. Thus, the Protocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.
    The Protocols were exposed as a forgery by Lucien Wolf in The Jewish Bogey and the Forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (London: Press Committee of the Jewish Board of Deputies, 1920). In 1921, Philip Grave, a correspondent for the London Times, publicized the forgery. Herman Bernstein in The Truth About "The Protocols of Zion": A Complete Exposure (1935) also tried and failed to convince the world of the forgery.
    The Protocols were published in 1920 in a Michigan newspaper started by Henry Ford mainly to attack Jews and Communists. Even after they were exposed as a forgery, Ford's paper continued to cite the document. Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.
    The Protocols hoax continues to fool people and is still cited by certain individuals and groups as the cause of all their woes.
    See related entries on Holocaust denial, the Illuminati and shoehorning.

    further reading
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
    What's the story with the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"? The Straight Dope
    Bronner, Stephen Eric. A Rumor About the Jews : Reflections on Antisemitism and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (St Martins Press, 2000)
    Cohn, Norman Rufus Colin. Warrant for Genocide; the Myth of the Jewish World-conspiracy and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York: Harper & Row, 1967).
    Goldberg, Isaac. The so-called "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"; a Definitive Exposure of One of the Most Malicious Lies in History (Girard, Kansas, Haldeman-Julius Publications, 1936).
    Segel, B. W. A Lie and a Libel: the History of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Richard S. Levy, translator & editor, (Lincoln, NE : University of Nebraska Press, 1995).
    United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on the Judiciary.
    Protocols of the Elders of Zion; a fabricated "historic" document; a report prepared by the Subcommittee to Investigate the Administration of the Internal Security Act and Other Internal Security Laws ... Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1964.
    Wolf, Lucien. The Myth of the Jewish Menace in World Affairs; or, The Truth About the Forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York, The Macmillan company, 1921).
    ©copyright 2002
    Robert Todd Carroll

    Even if the protocols describe what is happening, they still are fake
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  175. @freebird
    Possibly a bit naive on the authors part. Undeniable that Iran is the world's leading sponsor of world wide terror and that the country is trying to develop nuclear weapons with the capability of delivering them anywhere on the globe. ---------- Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    Need to fact facts (sic???) in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock.

    You mean, like your witless, vacuous, brainless comment?

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  176. @Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Thanks for sharing, dear Phil. And I hope to see you again at the upcoming Ron Paul Conference August 18.

    You wrote:


    "The only attempt to censor the conference and its content has been, I would note, the blocking of sponsor New Horizon’s website on Google and presumably elsewhere in the Zionist/U.S. dominated social media and information-searching world."
     
    As a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian, I just come right out with it: It's JEW-DOMINATED, and JEW-OWNED media, social media and information-searching world.

    Google is owned by The Mossad and has been since its inception by funding Sergei Brin and Larry Page when they were students at Stanford back in the 90's. Google is JEWGLE, it is JEW-OWNED.

    Here's my point and trajectory.

    Jews are getting nervous, more and more "goys" are on to them including influential journalists.

    The millennials are against Israeli violence of Palestinians and have no interest in the HoloHoax scam. In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.

    So what's the JEW to do?

    Not only continue de-ranking (like Unz Review has been de-ranked); censoring on JEWtoob; restricting PayPiss accounts; limiting searches to what's acceptable to Jews (try 'googling' Israel's 'Samson Option'...nothing comes up. Do it on Bing and BINGO.

    The next phase by King Tut JEW (I'm on to you Momus, you JEW TROLL) is to threaten ISP's with a letter from the ADL saying they're sponsoring 'hate sites.'

    MANY ISP's and Web Hosting Services will succumb. But we can be TEN STEPS ahead of King KUCK Jew.

    Ron Unz, Jeff Rense, David Duke, and other 'Truth Sites" need to develop independent internet infrastructures. I urge all of you who have prominent websites to embark on this. Feel free to write to me.

    +Brother Nathanael, Publisher Real Jew News @
    http://www.realjewnews.com/

    Jews are getting nervous, more and more “goys” are on to them including influential journalists.

    Jews are always nervous. I’d be nervous too if I spent my life lying, stealing, defrauding, mocking, killing, enslaving, and despising goyim as well as “lesser” Jews..

    In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.

    I can think of some other uses. Restaurants? Gag me!!!

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  177. @Momus
    A lot of it has to do with keeping public order. The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.

    You are amusing in a pathetically puerile way, but what shall we do with the mothers of all racists, the violent Zionists? Explain.

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  178. @Momus
    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

    “Jewish intellectual power” is pure hype.

    By far the top ethnic group intellectually in America be all measures (standard tests, grades, etc.) are Asians.

    The Ivies is filled with undeserving Jewish students at the expense of Asian and white students who are not Jewish

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    Numerically azn, qualitatively Ashkenazi Einstein.
    , @Sam J.
    "...By far the top ethnic group intellectually in America be all measures (standard tests, grades, etc.) are Asians..."

    By population it might be Asians but by numbers it's Whites.
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  179. Incitatus says:
    @iffen
    Sometimes enemies are more useful as enemies.

    I guess I could compliment Israel for doing their part, but I don't see a lot of options available to them.

    “I guess I could compliment Israel for doing their part, but I don’t see a lot of options available to them.”

    Non-lethal intervention (tear gas, water cannon, etc.), only when absolutely necessary?

    Dichter’s “If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem” seems criminally suggestive, no better than fringe Palestinian rhetoric.

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    Non-lethal intervention (tear gas, water cannon, etc.), only when absolutely necessary?

    I haven't followed the details closely. I don't know if that would work or not. The essential point is that they can't allow a breach. The cleanup from that would be a colossal PR disaster.

    no better than fringe Palestinian rhetoric

    Right, and as more of these types come to power the more support they will lose.
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  180. @jacques sheete

    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.

     

    You are usually quite good at substantiating your points. Please substantiate that one.

    Even if forgeries, do they not describe much of what we see happening?

    Jacques Sheete insightfully wrote: ”
    Even if forgeries, do they not describe much of what we see happening?”

    Hi Jacques,

    They only want you to read & see what they want.

    Article below displays beautiful pictures that perhaps P.G. had the pleasure to see in Iran.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/16/561942/Iran-persian-garden

    Thanks, Brother!

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  181. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    But Exodus by Leon Urine and Holocaust the teevee series are the trooff, the whole trooff and nothing but the troof.

    —-
    @ 176 jacques sheete says:

    I can think of some other uses. Restaurants? Gag me!!!

    AGREE!!

    Imagine the menu– Smoked baby-back ribs?

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  182. Momus says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Thanks for sharing, dear Phil. And I hope to see you again at the upcoming Ron Paul Conference August 18.

    You wrote:


    "The only attempt to censor the conference and its content has been, I would note, the blocking of sponsor New Horizon’s website on Google and presumably elsewhere in the Zionist/U.S. dominated social media and information-searching world."
     
    As a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian, I just come right out with it: It's JEW-DOMINATED, and JEW-OWNED media, social media and information-searching world.

    Google is owned by The Mossad and has been since its inception by funding Sergei Brin and Larry Page when they were students at Stanford back in the 90's. Google is JEWGLE, it is JEW-OWNED.

    Here's my point and trajectory.

    Jews are getting nervous, more and more "goys" are on to them including influential journalists.

    The millennials are against Israeli violence of Palestinians and have no interest in the HoloHoax scam. In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.

    So what's the JEW to do?

    Not only continue de-ranking (like Unz Review has been de-ranked); censoring on JEWtoob; restricting PayPiss accounts; limiting searches to what's acceptable to Jews (try 'googling' Israel's 'Samson Option'...nothing comes up. Do it on Bing and BINGO.

    The next phase by King Tut JEW (I'm on to you Momus, you JEW TROLL) is to threaten ISP's with a letter from the ADL saying they're sponsoring 'hate sites.'

    MANY ISP's and Web Hosting Services will succumb. But we can be TEN STEPS ahead of King KUCK Jew.

    Ron Unz, Jeff Rense, David Duke, and other 'Truth Sites" need to develop independent internet infrastructures. I urge all of you who have prominent websites to embark on this. Feel free to write to me.

    +Brother Nathanael, Publisher Real Jew News @
    http://www.realjewnews.com/

    More benthos garbage. Samson Option, Israel’s little joke, garners me hundreds of Google references.

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  183. Momus says:
    @Zio Please
    "Jewish intellectual power" is pure hype.

    By far the top ethnic group intellectually in America be all measures (standard tests, grades, etc.) are Asians.

    The Ivies is filled with undeserving Jewish students at the expense of Asian and white students who are not Jewish

    Numerically azn, qualitatively Ashkenazi Einstein.

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  184. @Momus
    Judicial notice is an established precedent in the US and in similar principal across the West.

    See here:

    IHR was a flogger denier group set up by Nazi William Carto.

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward. Represented by public interest attorney William John Cox, Mermelstein subsequently sued the IHR in the Superior Court of Los Angeles County for breach of contract, anticipatory repudiation, libel, injurious denial of established fact, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and declaratory relief On October 9, 1981, both parties in the Mermelstein case filed motions for summary judgment in consideration of which Judge Thomas T. Johnson of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County took "judicial notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944," judicial notice meaning that the court treated the gas chambers as common knowledge, and therefore did not require evidence that the gas chambers existed. On August 5, 1985, Judge Robert A. Wenke entered a judgment based upon the Stipulation for Entry of Judgment agreed upon by the parties on July 22, 1985. The judgment required IHR and other defendants to pay $90,000 to Mermelstein and to issue a letter of apology to "Mr. Mel Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau and Buchenwald, and all other survivors of Auschwitz" for "pain, anguish and suffering" caused to them.

    Yes, Judicial Notice is an established precedent, and that legal procedure rests on

    ~ sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.
    ~ facts are outside of reasonable controversy,
    ~ A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite.

    These characteristics do not apply to the ordained narratives of the holocaust ™

    The primary, or foundational notion of American legal process is that all parties are entitled to an unprejudiced hearing. That basic principle has not yet been applied to the so-called holocaust: the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing, and the Jewish side has been gathered and presented (relentlessly) in emotion-laden tones and downright mendacity, with German defendants under duress, torture, acknowledged psychological warfare.

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    As far as I know there is hardly a German side.
    Holocaust 'denial', I think the word is inappropriate, one denies to have committed a murder, that there was a murder is proven by a body, killed, is by the French Rassinier and Faurisson, the American Butz, the Canadian German Zundel, the American Leuchter, and yes a German, Rudolf.
    Even then, the debate mainly is about gas chambers, did they exist or not.
    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris
    This description of persecutions and the holocaust is based on evidence given at the Neurenberg trials.
    As far as I know there never was any other trial in Germany about the holocaust.
    There was to be one in the sixties, an Auschwitz under commander then found, he denied the gas chambers, but there was no trial, the apparently healthy man suddenly died in prison.
    Rassinier was not allowed to enter Germany to witness the trial.
    , @iffen
    the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing,

    As far as I know the Germans were reluctant to say very much and still are.
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  185. Chu says:
    @mark green
    Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It's not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become 'speech crimes', carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    'Denying' the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel's on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose 'national interests' (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They're real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran--a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US--is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there's plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The 'military-industrial complex'. And of course there's Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    agree. In the NY Times this morning they are hailing the death of Philip Roth as ‘the last of the great white males’.

    Wow, who knew and to talk about cultural appropriation…

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  186. Svigor says:
    @Momus
    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history - it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn't stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don't think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

    No, denial law serves the role of enforcing Jewish preference as law.

    It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general.

    If Jews had any long-term sense, they’d be fighting these laws, against the day that they don’t have the cash to keep buying people off, or the clout to keep threatening them.

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    "It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general."

    Irony much?

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, not the rights of the perpetrators.
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  187. Svigor says:
    @Momus
    Judicial notice is an established precedent in the US and in similar principal across the West.

    See here:

    IHR was a flogger denier group set up by Nazi William Carto.

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward. Represented by public interest attorney William John Cox, Mermelstein subsequently sued the IHR in the Superior Court of Los Angeles County for breach of contract, anticipatory repudiation, libel, injurious denial of established fact, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and declaratory relief On October 9, 1981, both parties in the Mermelstein case filed motions for summary judgment in consideration of which Judge Thomas T. Johnson of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County took "judicial notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944," judicial notice meaning that the court treated the gas chambers as common knowledge, and therefore did not require evidence that the gas chambers existed. On August 5, 1985, Judge Robert A. Wenke entered a judgment based upon the Stipulation for Entry of Judgment agreed upon by the parties on July 22, 1985. The judgment required IHR and other defendants to pay $90,000 to Mermelstein and to issue a letter of apology to "Mr. Mel Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau and Buchenwald, and all other survivors of Auschwitz" for "pain, anguish and suffering" caused to them.

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward.

    LOL. A Jew’s word is “proof,” if it’s notarized. Jews are a trip.

    “As he later learned.”

    In other words, hearsay. Even the testimony itself would be thrown out of court.

    That whole comment is a great example of why Jews are hated. No sense of decency.

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    A weird story.
    The gassings were supposed to have happened at one of the Auschwitz camps, there were many, Birkenau.
    As even Elie Wiesel describes, Birkenau was the camp for those seen as unfit for work.
    Elie Wiesel, 'La Nuit', 1958, 2007
    Wiesel was in different camps, there were good and bad camps, depending on who ran the camps were good or bad people.
    As all camps had self management, those that survived, because they ate well, the others died, according to Rassinier after some six months, under nourishment, this Mermelstein must have belonged to the Birkenau camp management.
    Even Wiesel describes the self management, and how this management was well fed.
    This management, at the periodic inspections by German doctors, of all inmates in all camps, was never sent to Birkenau.
    Germans hardly ever entered the camps.
    Wiesel never was in Birkenau, but did see from a distance the chimneys of the crematoria, that he assumed were gas chambers, or so, his story on this is not very clear.
    I thus wonder if Mermelstein was part of the camp management, and let his relatives die.
    Why nobody bothers to read Wiesel, I do not understand
    , @Momus
    From Wikipedia:

    Mel Mermelstein (born September 25, 1926, Örösveg (or Oroszvég, Ukrainian: Rosvyhove, German: Rosswegau), near Munkacs) is a Hungarian-born Jew, sole-survivor of his family's extermination at Auschwitz concentration camp who defeated the Institute for Historical Review in an American court and in 1981 had the occurrence of gassings in Auschwitz during the Holocaust declared a legally incontestable fact.[1]
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  188. @jacques sheete

    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.

     

    You are usually quite good at substantiating your points. Please substantiate that one.

    Even if forgeries, do they not describe much of what we see happening?

    Protocols of the Elders of Zion
    “The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now.” –Henry Ford, 2-17-21, whose newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, cited the Protocols as evidence of an alleged Jewish threat until at least 1927
    “To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion….” –Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery made in Russia for the Okhrana (secret police), which blames the Jews for the country’s ills. It was first privately printed in 1897 and was made public in 1905. It is copied from a nineteenth century novel by Hermann Goedsche (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.
    The basic story was composed by Goedsche, a German novelist and anti-Semite who used the pseudonym of Sir John Retcliffe. Goedsche stole the main story from another writer, Maurice Joly, whose Dialogues in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864) involved a Hellish plot aimed at opposing Napoleon III. Goedsche’s original contribution consists mainly of introducing Jews to do the plotting to take over the world.
    The Russians used big chunks of a Russian translation of Goedsche’s novel, published it separately as the Protocols, and claimed they were authentic. Their purpose was political: to strengthen the czar Nicholas II’s position by exposing his opponents as allies with those who were part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world. Thus, the Protocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.
    The Protocols were exposed as a forgery by Lucien Wolf in The Jewish Bogey and the Forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (London: Press Committee of the Jewish Board of Deputies, 1920). In 1921, Philip Grave, a correspondent for the London Times, publicized the forgery. Herman Bernstein in The Truth About “The Protocols of Zion”: A Complete Exposure (1935) also tried and failed to convince the world of the forgery.
    The Protocols were published in 1920 in a Michigan newspaper started by Henry Ford mainly to attack Jews and Communists. Even after they were exposed as a forgery, Ford’s paper continued to cite the document. Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.
    The Protocols hoax continues to fool people and is still cited by certain individuals and groups as the cause of all their woes.
    See related entries on Holocaust denial, the Illuminati and shoehorning.

    further reading
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
    What’s the story with the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”? The Straight Dope
    Bronner, Stephen Eric. A Rumor About the Jews : Reflections on Antisemitism and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (St Martins Press, 2000)
    Cohn, Norman Rufus Colin. Warrant for Genocide; the Myth of the Jewish World-conspiracy and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York: Harper & Row, 1967).
    Goldberg, Isaac. The so-called “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”; a Definitive Exposure of One of the Most Malicious Lies in History (Girard, Kansas, Haldeman-Julius Publications, 1936).
    Segel, B. W. A Lie and a Libel: the History of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Richard S. Levy, translator & editor, (Lincoln, NE : University of Nebraska Press, 1995).
    United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on the Judiciary.
    Protocols of the Elders of Zion; a fabricated “historic” document; a report prepared by the Subcommittee to Investigate the Administration of the Internal Security Act and Other Internal Security Laws … Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1964.
    Wolf, Lucien. The Myth of the Jewish Menace in World Affairs; or, The Truth About the Forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York, The Macmillan company, 1921).
    ©copyright 2002
    Robert Todd Carroll

    Even if the protocols describe what is happening, they still are fake

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    Thus, the Protocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.
     
    Well that sounds pretty damning, ( a forgery of plagiarized fiction...wow!), until one realizes that they pretty well describe reality. They needn't have been plagiarized from some fiction.

    In other words, most of those things were known for ages so the "fiction" was probably based on common knowledge.

    For example, I'm confident that if someone wanted to discredit Luther's Die Juden und ihre Lügen they could successfully claim he "plagiarized" it from some "fiction."

    I agree with Ford.

    , @CalDre

    [The Protocols are] copied from a nineteenth century novel by Hermann Goedsche (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.
     
    Now for that, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. There are some similarities, of course. Just like Saturn is similar to Mars. But that does mean Saturn is a copy of Mars. Do you comprehend the distinction? From what you wrote in your post, I doubt it, but it's worth checking :).

    The Russians used big chunks of a Russian translation of Goedsche’s novel, published it separately as the Protocols, and claimed they were authentic. Their purpose was political: to strengthen the czar Nicholas II’s position by exposing his opponents as allies with those who were part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world.
     
    Amazing how people will use facts to their advantage, isn't it? But none of that proves they are "fake".

    The Protocols were exposed as a forgery by Lucien Wolf in The Jewish Bogey and the Forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (London: Press Committee of the Jewish Board of Deputies, 1920).
     
    They weren't exposed as anything. All the arguments made against the Protocols are the same, lame, irrelevant points you made in your posts. None whatsoever even to the slightest degree proves they are fake or a forgery. What it might prove more logically is that the conspiracy was leaked more than once, and the initial discoverers maybe did not realize it was genuine, and used it in a work of fiction, or the initial discoverers feared for their lives in publishing the real thing, so they turned it against the French Republic in a novel.

    Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.
     
    Utter hogwash. If the Nazis had attempted to "exterminate the Jews" they would have succeeded. After all, they were in concentration camps. It would have been as easy as not feeding them, or putting poison in their food, or shooting them. Germans managed to kill millions of heavily armed Red Soldiers in the wild in very disadvantageous conditions, you think they were incapable of killing fish in a barrel? You historical liars are utterly amusing.

    Even if the protocols describe what is happening, they still are fake
     
    It's not just that they describe what is happening - no, no, no. It's that the Jews have very much lead roles in all of what they describe that is happening. The odds of a coincidence are somewhere around 100, trillion to 1. I'll take that as beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The Protocols really don't say anything that is not already in the Torah and Talmud. At least, in terms of the concept that Jews are the "chosen ones" who will rule the world under their Messiah. Protocols are just more detailed in a political manner.

    Also interesting is the regular use of the term "forgery" in the Protocols critiques. A forgery is something that is not an original. I will concede that the copy found in the hotel room was not an original, but a copy. It wasn't signed. But that's it. You don't need the original, because, as noted above (in terms of subsequent events and who is at their forefront, the Protocols are entirely and overwhelmingly self-authenticating.
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  189. Momus says:
    @Iris
    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they've been brought to hospital.

    These facts have been consistently reported by eminent health professionals volunteering in Gaza:

    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Gaza-le-professeur-Oberlin-constate-les-blessures-des-Palestiniens-50968.html

    You are a piece of filth without a shred of humanity in you.

    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.
    These warnings were ignored and Hamas’s aim of breaking into Israel to kill and create mayhem was revealed. Security measures were ramped up.
    In common with security and police force procedure around the world in those situations hollow point ammo is used to shock the target and to avoid a high velocity round travelling through and hitting others.
    Re the chemical attacks. Is there an independent cite of chemical weapons being used; or is that a filthy slander from an anti semite bereft of any impartiality?

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    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.
     
    You are so full of shit. Israel has mounted a sustained campaign of genocide against Palestinians for 70 years. The UN accord that created "Israel" provided full citizenship for the Palestinian residents. Israel has systematically denied all rights of citizenship to Palestinians, incrementing the level of discrimination, denial, and outright murder with each passing year.

    Israel has outdone the Nazis for Holocaust creation. The situation is contemptible in the extreme, and Israel's government should be put down like the mad dog it shows itself to be.
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  190. Momus says:
    @Monty Ahwazi
    A cab driver in Tehran knows more about the world affairs than Trump, Bolton and Pompeo combined!

    Ahh, but can he influence them?

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  191. @Svigor

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward.
     
    LOL. A Jew's word is "proof," if it's notarized. Jews are a trip.

    "As he later learned."

    In other words, hearsay. Even the testimony itself would be thrown out of court.

    That whole comment is a great example of why Jews are hated. No sense of decency.

    A weird story.
    The gassings were supposed to have happened at one of the Auschwitz camps, there were many, Birkenau.
    As even Elie Wiesel describes, Birkenau was the camp for those seen as unfit for work.
    Elie Wiesel, ‘La Nuit’, 1958, 2007
    Wiesel was in different camps, there were good and bad camps, depending on who ran the camps were good or bad people.
    As all camps had self management, those that survived, because they ate well, the others died, according to Rassinier after some six months, under nourishment, this Mermelstein must have belonged to the Birkenau camp management.
    Even Wiesel describes the self management, and how this management was well fed.
    This management, at the periodic inspections by German doctors, of all inmates in all camps, was never sent to Birkenau.
    Germans hardly ever entered the camps.
    Wiesel never was in Birkenau, but did see from a distance the chimneys of the crematoria, that he assumed were gas chambers, or so, his story on this is not very clear.
    I thus wonder if Mermelstein was part of the camp management, and let his relatives die.
    Why nobody bothers to read Wiesel, I do not understand

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  192. @SolontoCroesus
    Yes, Judicial Notice is an established precedent, and that legal procedure rests on

    ~ sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.
    ~ facts are outside of reasonable controversy,
    ~ A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite.

    These characteristics do not apply to the ordained narratives of the holocaust ™

    The primary, or foundational notion of American legal process is that all parties are entitled to an unprejudiced hearing. That basic principle has not yet been applied to the so-called holocaust: the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing, and the Jewish side has been gathered and presented (relentlessly) in emotion-laden tones and downright mendacity, with German defendants under duress, torture, acknowledged psychological warfare.

    As far as I know there is hardly a German side.
    Holocaust ‘denial’, I think the word is inappropriate, one denies to have committed a murder, that there was a murder is proven by a body, killed, is by the French Rassinier and Faurisson, the American Butz, the Canadian German Zundel, the American Leuchter, and yes a German, Rudolf.
    Even then, the debate mainly is about gas chambers, did they exist or not.
    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris
    This description of persecutions and the holocaust is based on evidence given at the Neurenberg trials.
    As far as I know there never was any other trial in Germany about the holocaust.
    There was to be one in the sixties, an Auschwitz under commander then found, he denied the gas chambers, but there was no trial, the apparently healthy man suddenly died in prison.
    Rassinier was not allowed to enter Germany to witness the trial.

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  193. To Brother geokat,

    Hi geo,

    Am impressed & heartened with the proliferation of a variety of dissent methods coming at the Mighty ZUS.

    Am grateful for ALL as I now describe the daring (suicidal?) journey named “The Freedom Flotilla.” One of the crafts on the way to the blockaded Gaza Strip is Norwegian & is lettered, “Al Awda” (‘The Return,’ in Arabic). In contrast to USS Liberty’s mission, I hope The Freedom Flotilla crew returns!

    Perhaps you’re aware of this humane relief-trip, geo? But just in case, posted (below) is an obscure article written by a passenger,Elizabeth Murray. She served as a US Deputy Intelligence Adviser, is now retired after a 27-year career.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/22/a-new-flotilla-steams-towards-gaza/

    Thanks, Brother geo!

    Post scriptum:
    Yesterday’s NYT featured a hypocritical column written by the Jewish David Brooks who opined about “Single selfless thread binds moral heroes.”
    Brook’s heroes are commendable, including St. Mother Teresa & the former-UN Secretary General, Dag Hammarskjold. (Zigh) At least Brooks did not bind together Hollywood’s “The American Sniper” and Nikki Haley.

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  194. @Momus
    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.
    These warnings were ignored and Hamas's aim of breaking into Israel to kill and create mayhem was revealed. Security measures were ramped up.
    In common with security and police force procedure around the world in those situations hollow point ammo is used to shock the target and to avoid a high velocity round travelling through and hitting others.
    Re the chemical attacks. Is there an independent cite of chemical weapons being used; or is that a filthy slander from an anti semite bereft of any impartiality?

    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.

    You are so full of shit. Israel has mounted a sustained campaign of genocide against Palestinians for 70 years. The UN accord that created “Israel” provided full citizenship for the Palestinian residents. Israel has systematically denied all rights of citizenship to Palestinians, incrementing the level of discrimination, denial, and outright murder with each passing year.

    Israel has outdone the Nazis for Holocaust creation. The situation is contemptible in the extreme, and Israel’s government should be put down like the mad dog it shows itself to be.

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    Genocide is a loaded term. What do we really mean by it? There are at least as many Native Americans as there were when Europe discovered North America at the neolithic stage of development. So its not by raw numbers. The Palestinian population is not shrinking. So it cannot be by raw numbers alone. Israel is certainly killing a lot of them.

    Israel is definitely a negative influence on their culture, far worse than the Native Americans who really were a backward culture.
    , @Momus
    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.


    Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Ahmadiyya, Arab Christians Copts, Druze, Syriac Christians Arameans, Assyrians, Samaritans, Armenians, Circassians, People from post-Soviet states, Finns, Baha'is, Vietnamese, African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem.

    The problem for the indigenous Arabs was they underestimated the Jews resolve to make something of their shared homeland and thought they would be pushovers in military confrontation.

    Many Arabs dug themselves into a hole because of that assumption, and are still digging to no effect, unfortunately. Think the burrowing Hamas; doing it literally.

    Many Arabsare happy to say that they are better off in Israel than in any of the surrounding 23 Muslim Arab countries.

    , @jilles dykstra
    It is the other way round.
    Israel is the cause that the number of Palestinians grew explosively.
    The 800.000 or so of 1948 now is some seven million.
    The cause is that just married men with children are allowed to work in Israel, just families get UN food aid.
    As a consequence, they marry at fifteen.
    The big zionist mistake is not to have committed genocide when it still was possible, in 1948, no video cameras, no satellite connections, no Youtube.
    Hardly any telex connections, a telex that could send pictures, no idea if it even existed at the time.
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  195. Sam Shama says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Thanks for sharing, dear Phil. And I hope to see you again at the upcoming Ron Paul Conference August 18.

    You wrote:


    "The only attempt to censor the conference and its content has been, I would note, the blocking of sponsor New Horizon’s website on Google and presumably elsewhere in the Zionist/U.S. dominated social media and information-searching world."
     
    As a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian, I just come right out with it: It's JEW-DOMINATED, and JEW-OWNED media, social media and information-searching world.

    Google is owned by The Mossad and has been since its inception by funding Sergei Brin and Larry Page when they were students at Stanford back in the 90's. Google is JEWGLE, it is JEW-OWNED.

    Here's my point and trajectory.

    Jews are getting nervous, more and more "goys" are on to them including influential journalists.

    The millennials are against Israeli violence of Palestinians and have no interest in the HoloHoax scam. In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.

    So what's the JEW to do?

    Not only continue de-ranking (like Unz Review has been de-ranked); censoring on JEWtoob; restricting PayPiss accounts; limiting searches to what's acceptable to Jews (try 'googling' Israel's 'Samson Option'...nothing comes up. Do it on Bing and BINGO.

    The next phase by King Tut JEW (I'm on to you Momus, you JEW TROLL) is to threaten ISP's with a letter from the ADL saying they're sponsoring 'hate sites.'

    MANY ISP's and Web Hosting Services will succumb. But we can be TEN STEPS ahead of King KUCK Jew.

    Ron Unz, Jeff Rense, David Duke, and other 'Truth Sites" need to develop independent internet infrastructures. I urge all of you who have prominent websites to embark on this. Feel free to write to me.

    +Brother Nathanael, Publisher Real Jew News @
    http://www.realjewnews.com/

    try ‘googling’ Israel’s ‘Samson Option’…nothing comes up.

    Here, let’s try Googling ‘Samson Option”

    https://www.google.com/search?q=samson+option&oq=Samson+option&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.6643j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Anything else, Brother?

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    An Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the power outage in Atlanta without being inspected by U S customs. This reeks of covert activity… The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand". Just maybe one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for "the big one". As Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship only reinforces "split loyalty"--NOT upholding the interests of the United States, and must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should not be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Hi Maven Shama,

    Can we take pause for a Momus of Truth?

    (Zigh)
    , @Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Yes, there is something else...

    Added to the ramping up of censorship by JEWS who own and control the information apparatus will be an enlarged enlistment of low-rent JEW TROLLS who use fake names like "Sam Sham" and "MOOmus."

    You're on the losing side, mr SHAM.

    The "goys" are on to you more and more, the kids now use the JEW word derogatively on their latest social forums, (they've left FaceBook) and time will bring on a worse backlash against Jews that would make Hitler look like a schoolmarm.

    Next time around no one will be saying, "oh those poor innocent jews." Instead they'll say, "the jews deserve it."

    +Brother Nathanael
    Publisher of Real Jew News @
    http://www.realjewnews.com/

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  196. anarchyst says:
    @Sam Shama

    try ‘googling’ Israel’s ‘Samson Option’…nothing comes up.
     
    Here, let's try Googling 'Samson Option"

    https://www.google.com/search?q=samson+option&oq=Samson+option&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.6643j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Anything else, Brother?

    An Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the power outage in Atlanta without being inspected by U S customs. This reeks of covert activity… The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”. Just maybe one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for “the big one”. As Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship only reinforces “split loyalty”–NOT upholding the interests of the United States, and must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should not be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

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  197. RobinG says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Thanks for sharing, dear Phil. And I hope to see you again at the upcoming Ron Paul Conference August 18.

    You wrote:


    "The only attempt to censor the conference and its content has been, I would note, the blocking of sponsor New Horizon’s website on Google and presumably elsewhere in the Zionist/U.S. dominated social media and information-searching world."
     
    As a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian, I just come right out with it: It's JEW-DOMINATED, and JEW-OWNED media, social media and information-searching world.

    Google is owned by The Mossad and has been since its inception by funding Sergei Brin and Larry Page when they were students at Stanford back in the 90's. Google is JEWGLE, it is JEW-OWNED.

    Here's my point and trajectory.

    Jews are getting nervous, more and more "goys" are on to them including influential journalists.

    The millennials are against Israeli violence of Palestinians and have no interest in the HoloHoax scam. In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.

    So what's the JEW to do?

    Not only continue de-ranking (like Unz Review has been de-ranked); censoring on JEWtoob; restricting PayPiss accounts; limiting searches to what's acceptable to Jews (try 'googling' Israel's 'Samson Option'...nothing comes up. Do it on Bing and BINGO.

    The next phase by King Tut JEW (I'm on to you Momus, you JEW TROLL) is to threaten ISP's with a letter from the ADL saying they're sponsoring 'hate sites.'

    MANY ISP's and Web Hosting Services will succumb. But we can be TEN STEPS ahead of King KUCK Jew.

    Ron Unz, Jeff Rense, David Duke, and other 'Truth Sites" need to develop independent internet infrastructures. I urge all of you who have prominent websites to embark on this. Feel free to write to me.

    +Brother Nathanael, Publisher Real Jew News @
    http://www.realjewnews.com/

    Scott Bennett is posting speakers at the conference. (Should copies be made, in case YouTube decides to censor?)

    MICHAEL MALOOF, former Pentagon Official, speaking in Iran at the New Horizons Conference

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  198. FLgeezer says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Let me guess --

    Your girlfriend just finished first year law school. You got drunk together to celebrate, and over barf episodes and beer-breathe, she mentioned the term "judicial notice" and tried to explain it.

    Some cretins (benthos?) at the bar smashed some glasses & the gendarme was summoned -- causing your pickled brain to associate "public order" with "judicial notice."

    In a Freudian confession punctuated with burps, you revealed to your girlie-girl that you just weren't making the cut on your hasbara team; your retorts were tinny and unimaginative. Bosswoman said your commentary was "something your average Episcopalian might produce." The Episcopalian slur really got to you.

    In a rare moment of sobriety, girlie-girl, all excited, said, Momus mami, here's the solution: Judicial notice!
    Introduce this concept to your squad! It's genius! It'll catch-on like the clap, your boss will invite you over for shabbat, you'll get a raise and you can pay for my next abortion! Oh mami I love you!

    And so it came to pass: mami Momus took Judicial Notice for a test-drive on Unz while her girlfriend got a refill on her clindamycin.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
    Judicial notice is not a simplistic process;


    The court may judicially notice a fact that is not subject to reasonable dispute because it:
    (1) is generally known within the trial court’s territorial jurisdiction; or
    (2) can be accurately and readily determined from sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.

    (c) Taking Notice. The court:
    (1) may take judicial notice on its own; or
    (2) must take judicial notice if a party requests it and the court is supplied with the necessary information.

    . . .

    The usual method of establishing adjudicative facts in through the introduction of evidence, ordinarily consisting of the testimony of witnesses. If particular facts are outside of reasonable controversy, this process is dispensed with as unnecessary. A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_201
     

    In other words, one cannot drop the Judicial Notice bomb the way IDF drops Palestinian babies; the facts sought to be put on notice must be outside reasonable controversy and have a high degree of indisputability.

    The very fact that certain historical claims are maintained as facts under systems of duress, punishment, censorship and criminalization shrieks to high heaven that those "facts" do not enjoy a "high degree of indisputability."

    Back to the drawing board for you, Momus mami, and to vinegar douches for your אהובה

    A classic post S2C. You are the best! 8-)

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  199. Steve3455 says:

    You are playing the same subtle game with words that the radical Zionists in Israel always play, using the game to somehow transform an ugly reality into something else.

    The Gaza fence is not a “border” in any lawful sense. Gaza is a totally enclosed and blockaded territory totally under Israel’s direct and indirect control. Therefore, it is an open-air prison camp, not a “country”. So it is not a “border”, it is the barrier fence of a prison camp. The prisoners, not having been convicted of any recognized crime in a court of law, are guilty solely of having once lived in Palestine and having the “wrong” religion, enjoy the same legal status that Jews themselves enjoyed in the Warsaw Ghetto: Stateless animals with no rights their prison-warden felt bound to respect.

    The people of Gaza have a moral right to escape their unjust confinement. The Israeli soldiers who guard that fence are ALL war criminals, no different than the Nazi guards of ghettos and concentration camps. Yes, I said it, MORALLY NO DIFFERENT.

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  200. Momus says:
    @Svigor
    No, denial law serves the role of enforcing Jewish preference as law.

    It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general.

    If Jews had any long-term sense, they'd be fighting these laws, against the day that they don't have the cash to keep buying people off, or the clout to keep threatening them.

    “It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general.”

    Irony much?

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, not the rights of the perpetrators.

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    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, .
     
    Which one?

    The "persecution" pogroms in Russia that provoked Jacob Schiff to rush in and fund the Bolshvik revolution -- but was then discovered to have involved episodic mob violence that cost the lives of 43 -- count 'em, 43 Jews? Far fewer than Palestinians that Israel killed earlier this month.

    Rabbi Stephen Wise belly-ached about "6 million Jews" being "persecuted" sine ~1900.

    How do you say "cry wolf" in Yiddish?

    , @jacques sheete

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history...
     
    We must be talking about the tens of millions of German folk who were brutalized for years, thanks to the Bolshies, international banksters, common Jewish thugs, and French officials during WW1, and for years after the Versailles Extortion Treaty, no?

    [Crackpots] with criminal records and stormy, prize-fighting characters were spirited out of the underworld and given unofficial protection as agents for the establishment of a Rhineland Republic.
    The idea was, by fostering anarchy, to frighten the Germans into acquiescence. Bands of gangsters were conveyed free of charge on French trains to meetings which usually developed into bloody and destructive frays.

    -Arthur Bryant, Unfinished Victory, pp126-7 (1940)

    https://archive.org/stream/ArthurBryantUnfinishedVictory1940V1/Arthur%20Bryant%20-%20Unfinished%20Victory%20%281940%29%20-%20v1_djvu.txt


     

    Bryant catalogues many other ways that Germans and others were terrorized and starved into submission long after the "peace" treaty..
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  201. gwynedd1 says:
    @manorchurch

    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.
     
    You are so full of shit. Israel has mounted a sustained campaign of genocide against Palestinians for 70 years. The UN accord that created "Israel" provided full citizenship for the Palestinian residents. Israel has systematically denied all rights of citizenship to Palestinians, incrementing the level of discrimination, denial, and outright murder with each passing year.

    Israel has outdone the Nazis for Holocaust creation. The situation is contemptible in the extreme, and Israel's government should be put down like the mad dog it shows itself to be.

    Genocide is a loaded term. What do we really mean by it? There are at least as many Native Americans as there were when Europe discovered North America at the neolithic stage of development. So its not by raw numbers. The Palestinian population is not shrinking. So it cannot be by raw numbers alone. Israel is certainly killing a lot of them.

    Israel is definitely a negative influence on their culture, far worse than the Native Americans who really were a backward culture.

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    Genocide is a loaded term. What do we really mean by it?
     
    Loaded term? It sure is. It should be, doncha think? If Israelis are putting great effort into corraling Palestinians into what is, essentially, a concentration camp worthy of any SS ambition, I feel quite comfortable referring to the process as genocide. Genocide is the purpose, therefore genocide is the correct term. Another useful term might be, oh, say "fish in a barrel"?
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  202. Momus says:
    @manorchurch

    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.
     
    You are so full of shit. Israel has mounted a sustained campaign of genocide against Palestinians for 70 years. The UN accord that created "Israel" provided full citizenship for the Palestinian residents. Israel has systematically denied all rights of citizenship to Palestinians, incrementing the level of discrimination, denial, and outright murder with each passing year.

    Israel has outdone the Nazis for Holocaust creation. The situation is contemptible in the extreme, and Israel's government should be put down like the mad dog it shows itself to be.

    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.

    Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Ahmadiyya, Arab Christians Copts, Druze, Syriac Christians Arameans, Assyrians, Samaritans, Armenians, Circassians, People from post-Soviet states, Finns, Baha’is, Vietnamese, African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem.

    The problem for the indigenous Arabs was they underestimated the Jews resolve to make something of their shared homeland and thought they would be pushovers in military confrontation.

    Many Arabs dug themselves into a hole because of that assumption, and are still digging to no effect, unfortunately. Think the burrowing Hamas; doing it literally.

    Many Arabsare happy to say that they are better off in Israel than in any of the surrounding 23 Muslim Arab countries.

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    Superfluous Momus opined: "This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset."

    Hi Momus,

    First, what is a Momus? Is there a Larrymus? A Curleymus? A Shempmos? Let me know, please, Moe?

    Oh my, how long would be a list to post all the Jewish Lobby-owned ZUS Congressmen & Senators.

    Selah, Zecretary of Ztate, Mike Pompeo's address to the Heritage Foundation on inevitable "regime change" requirement in Iran.
    , @manorchurch

    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.
     
    WTF? Relevance????

    The Palestinians in Gaza have been systematically denied all rights. Gaza is a concentration camp, Auschwitz-style. A slow genocide, perpetrated by Israel, is being pursued. Some weeks the genocide gets a quick boost as a few dozen Palestinians are murdered by the IDF -- preferably toddlers, women and children.

    It is very clear what YOU are.

    , @redmudhooch
    You should have treated the American goyim better if you did not want your "plan" to fall apart

    See, Americans are starting to realize that more and more they are being treated like Palestinians, like Arabs. Fighting wars for our "freedom" but having much less freedom every day that passes. Fighting dictators, and bringing their people "democracy" by way of open slave markets.

    This is why no amount of bullshitting will on the goyim from this point on, they can see your actions here at home now. So they know Israel is the problem over there, the aggressor because now they can see it first hand. We know that our "government" and those controlling them are the problem here at home, because of these actions. You can't change that, its reality, whether you approve of it or not.

    Americans should have seen it immediately after 9/11, when Bush and the "neocons" that controlled him, started wiping their ass with our Constitution. It took a while, but your time is up now. No amount of sock puppetry, fake news, censorship, porn star or "deep state" distractions, holocaust guilt trips none of it will work anymore. You're doing the same thing to us. Murdering all of those Christians over there didn't help your cause here in America either. The sudden panic to disarm law abiding Americans, why is that? What you so worried about? Easier to kill and control people that are only armed with rocks isn't it you spineless coward?

    You're only fooling yourselves at this point.
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  203. @manorchurch

    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.
     
    You are so full of shit. Israel has mounted a sustained campaign of genocide against Palestinians for 70 years. The UN accord that created "Israel" provided full citizenship for the Palestinian residents. Israel has systematically denied all rights of citizenship to Palestinians, incrementing the level of discrimination, denial, and outright murder with each passing year.

    Israel has outdone the Nazis for Holocaust creation. The situation is contemptible in the extreme, and Israel's government should be put down like the mad dog it shows itself to be.

    It is the other way round.
    Israel is the cause that the number of Palestinians grew explosively.
    The 800.000 or so of 1948 now is some seven million.
    The cause is that just married men with children are allowed to work in Israel, just families get UN food aid.
    As a consequence, they marry at fifteen.
    The big zionist mistake is not to have committed genocide when it still was possible, in 1948, no video cameras, no satellite connections, no Youtube.
    Hardly any telex connections, a telex that could send pictures, no idea if it even existed at the time.

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    Israel is the cause that the number of Palestinians grew explosively.
     
    Don't bullshit, jake. The purpose is genocide; the actor is Israel. Therefore, Israel is guilty of genocide.
    , @L.K
    You keep repeating this BS, man.

    By 1947, the Palestinians represented roughly 70% of the population of Palestine, this after decades of jew immigration.

    Before the Zionist project, there were hardly any Jews in Palestine, and 95-98% were Palestinian Muslims & Christians.

    Finally, in 1947 the British announced that they would be ending their control of Palestine, which had been created through the League of Nations following World War One, and turned the question of Palestine over to the United Nations.

    At this time, the Zionist immigration and buyout project had increased the Jewish population of Palestine to 30 percent and land ownership from 1 percent to approximately 6 percent.
     
    The Real Story of How Israel Was Created
    Alison Weir
    CounterPunch & AntiWar.com
    http://ifamericaknew.org/history/realstory.html
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  204. tac says:
    @mark green
    Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It's not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become 'speech crimes', carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    'Denying' the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel's on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose 'national interests' (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They're real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran--a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US--is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there's plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The 'military-industrial complex'. And of course there's Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    Agreed. The other side to take into account is the vast transfer of wealth, technology, military assets to Israel. And this is where one needs to pay close attention to the messianic angle (to be used for political, financial, military gain of Israel–at the expense of its hosts …. and keep this in mind, the existence and prosperity of Israel is more dependent on the Jews of the diaspora than that of the population in Israel itself).

    All the other distractions with the Obama Deep State, are just that, distractions ….

    Israel’s aggressive behavior is prophesied in Hebrew Bible:
    Authored by: Laurent Guyenot

    “…The paradox is only apparent, because for Zionists, the Bible is not a religious text, but a textbook of history. And so it should be obvious to anybody paying attention that Israel’s behavior on the international scene cannot be understood without a deep inquiry into the Bible’s underlying ideology. Only by taking account of the biblical roots of Zionism can one understand why Zionism has never been a nationalist movement like others. It could not be, as Gilad Atzmon remarked, from the moment it defined itself as a Jewish movement, aimed at creating a “Jewish state”.[6] Jewish exceptionalism is a biblical concept that has no equivalent in any other ethnic or religious culture.

    The launching of the Iraq War was a decisive step toward that goal of a new world order headquartered in Jerusalem. It was the context for a “Jerusalem Summit” held in October 2003 in the highly symbolic King David Hotel, to seal an alliance between Jewish and Christian Zionists.

    The “Jerusalem Declaration” signed by its participants declared Jerusalem “the key to the harmony of civilizations,” replacing the United Nations that had become “a tribalized confederation hijacked by Third World dictatorships”:

    “Jerusalem’s spiritual and historical importance endows it with a special authority to become a center of world’s unity. [. . .] We believe that one of the objectives of Israel’s divinely-inspired rebirth is to make it the center of the new unity of the nations, which will lead to an era of peace and prosperity, foretold by the Prophets.”

    according to Deuteronomy Yahweh plans to deliver to Israel “seven nations greater and mightier than [it],” adding: “you must utterly destroy them; you shall make no covenant with them, and show no mercy to them.”

    https://russia-insider.com/en/israels-aggressive-behavior-embodied-and-prophesied-hebrew-bible/ri22632

    See my other comments on the other thread starting with this one about the plan to build the third Temple:

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-messiah-is-here/#comment-2340971

    and this:

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/02/17/revealed-the-temple-mount-movements-goal-build-third-temple-ruins-al-aqsa/

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  205. Momus says:
    @Svigor

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward.
     
    LOL. A Jew's word is "proof," if it's notarized. Jews are a trip.

    "As he later learned."

    In other words, hearsay. Even the testimony itself would be thrown out of court.

    That whole comment is a great example of why Jews are hated. No sense of decency.

    From Wikipedia:

    Mel Mermelstein (born September 25, 1926, Örösveg (or Oroszvég, Ukrainian: Rosvyhove, German: Rosswegau), near Munkacs) is a Hungarian-born Jew, sole-survivor of his family’s extermination at Auschwitz concentration camp who defeated the Institute for Historical Review in an American court and in 1981 had the occurrence of gassings in Auschwitz during the Holocaust declared a legally incontestable fact.[1]

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    From Wikipedia:
     
    Zionists edit wikipedia to 'properly' present Israel; "this kind of knowledge is important for defending Israel . . . it's so important to be online and to prove to ourselves that we are just and we are right . . ."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52LB2fYhoY

    in 1981 had the occurrence of gassings in Auschwitz during the Holocaust declared a legally incontestable fact.[1]
     
    What documentation was presented to support this 'declaration'?
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  206. anonymous[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen
    I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.

    It wasn’t effective propaganda, it’s just that simpering imbeciles like Giraldi, the anti-Jew pinheads on Unz, the EU, UN, etc… blindly accept it as truth because they suffer from Israel Derangement Syndrome. Much like Trump Derangement Syndrome. Here’s what Hamas has to say about the “massacre” -

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/middleeast/hamas-members-gaza-deaths/index.html

    In truth, the vast majority of “victims” are Hamas’ own terrorists. The other “victims” are military aged males, some of them from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group.

    When Israel was created and Arabs were dispossessed, even more Jews were dispossessed from Arab lands. Muslims have no intention of compensating those Jews and, certainly, the Turks showed the precedent of how to treat infidels in their genocide of 3 million Armenians and Greeks. The fake Palestinians should have been absorbed by adjacent Muslim countries.

    The sane Arab states will put pressure on the “Palestinians” to settle.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-must-make-peace-or-shut-up-saudi-crown-prince-said-to-tell-us-jews/

    Particularly, since the GCC is trashing everyone’s asses and that includes Iran. The EU will not go against the US regarding Iran. The EU has been on the side of evil for a long time – for the Paris Climate Accord, against Brexit, for unlimited 3rd world immigration, against free speech, for TPP. Supporting the Iran Deal is evil as well.

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    Where is Mohammad bin Salman?

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-has-mohammad-bin-salman-gone-so-quiet/

    . . . he has barely been seen in public since prolonged heavy gunfire was heard at the royal palace in Riyadh in the middle of the night on April 21.

    At the time Saudi state media dismissed reports on Twitter and elsewhere the shots were the sound of a coup taking place, insisting instead the semi-automatic gunfire was merely aimed at a recreational drone that had flown too close to the palace walls.

    In this age of fake news and heavy Arab media censorship it’s hard to know who to trust, but what seems certain is that the Crown Prince, previously ubiquitous as the international focal point of a cultural revolution in the kingdom, seems suddenly to have vanished.
     
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  207. @Momus
    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.


    Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Ahmadiyya, Arab Christians Copts, Druze, Syriac Christians Arameans, Assyrians, Samaritans, Armenians, Circassians, People from post-Soviet states, Finns, Baha'is, Vietnamese, African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem.

    The problem for the indigenous Arabs was they underestimated the Jews resolve to make something of their shared homeland and thought they would be pushovers in military confrontation.

    Many Arabs dug themselves into a hole because of that assumption, and are still digging to no effect, unfortunately. Think the burrowing Hamas; doing it literally.

    Many Arabsare happy to say that they are better off in Israel than in any of the surrounding 23 Muslim Arab countries.

    Superfluous Momus opined: “This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.”

    Hi Momus,

    First, what is a Momus? Is there a Larrymus? A Curleymus? A Shempmos? Let me know, please, Moe?

    Oh my, how long would be a list to post all the Jewish Lobby-owned ZUS Congressmen & Senators.

    Selah, Zecretary of Ztate, Mike Pompeo’s address to the Heritage Foundation on inevitable “regime change” requirement in Iran.

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    Research is not your strong point eh Chuckles?
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  208. @gwynedd1
    Genocide is a loaded term. What do we really mean by it? There are at least as many Native Americans as there were when Europe discovered North America at the neolithic stage of development. So its not by raw numbers. The Palestinian population is not shrinking. So it cannot be by raw numbers alone. Israel is certainly killing a lot of them.

    Israel is definitely a negative influence on their culture, far worse than the Native Americans who really were a backward culture.

    Genocide is a loaded term. What do we really mean by it?

    Loaded term? It sure is. It should be, doncha think? If Israelis are putting great effort into corraling Palestinians into what is, essentially, a concentration camp worthy of any SS ambition, I feel quite comfortable referring to the process as genocide. Genocide is the purpose, therefore genocide is the correct term. Another useful term might be, oh, say “fish in a barrel”?

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    OK, more or less you are saying that Israel has arranged for the easy disposal of Palestinians in their helpless state. Agreed. However its not really genocide until its genocide. However yes the population is quite precarious.
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  209. @jilles dykstra
    It is the other way round.
    Israel is the cause that the number of Palestinians grew explosively.
    The 800.000 or so of 1948 now is some seven million.
    The cause is that just married men with children are allowed to work in Israel, just families get UN food aid.
    As a consequence, they marry at fifteen.
    The big zionist mistake is not to have committed genocide when it still was possible, in 1948, no video cameras, no satellite connections, no Youtube.
    Hardly any telex connections, a telex that could send pictures, no idea if it even existed at the time.

    Israel is the cause that the number of Palestinians grew explosively.

    Don’t bullshit, jake. The purpose is genocide; the actor is Israel. Therefore, Israel is guilty of genocide.

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  210. @Momus
    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.


    Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Ahmadiyya, Arab Christians Copts, Druze, Syriac Christians Arameans, Assyrians, Samaritans, Armenians, Circassians, People from post-Soviet states, Finns, Baha'is, Vietnamese, African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem.

    The problem for the indigenous Arabs was they underestimated the Jews resolve to make something of their shared homeland and thought they would be pushovers in military confrontation.

    Many Arabs dug themselves into a hole because of that assumption, and are still digging to no effect, unfortunately. Think the burrowing Hamas; doing it literally.

    Many Arabsare happy to say that they are better off in Israel than in any of the surrounding 23 Muslim Arab countries.

    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.

    WTF? Relevance????

    The Palestinians in Gaza have been systematically denied all rights. Gaza is a concentration camp, Auschwitz-style. A slow genocide, perpetrated by Israel, is being pursued. Some weeks the genocide gets a quick boost as a few dozen Palestinians are murdered by the IDF — preferably toddlers, women and children.

    It is very clear what YOU are.

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    Rights denied to Gazans are denied by their despotic, kleptocratic, theological 'leaders' Hamas.
    A good job would be an indentured tunnel worker; try having a beer.

    If they behaved like other Israeli Arabs, instead of arseholes, they would be a lot better off.

    Genocide in the middle of a population explosion? Gaza's population is growing mightily: 3% a year.
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  211. @Sam Shama

    try ‘googling’ Israel’s ‘Samson Option’…nothing comes up.
     
    Here, let's try Googling 'Samson Option"

    https://www.google.com/search?q=samson+option&oq=Samson+option&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.6643j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Anything else, Brother?

    Hi Maven Shama,

    Can we take pause for a Momus of Truth?

    (Zigh)

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  212. @anonymous
    It wasn't effective propaganda, it's just that simpering imbeciles like Giraldi, the anti-Jew pinheads on Unz, the EU, UN, etc... blindly accept it as truth because they suffer from Israel Derangement Syndrome. Much like Trump Derangement Syndrome. Here's what Hamas has to say about the "massacre" -

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/middleeast/hamas-members-gaza-deaths/index.html

    In truth, the vast majority of "victims" are Hamas' own terrorists. The other "victims" are military aged males, some of them from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group.

    When Israel was created and Arabs were dispossessed, even more Jews were dispossessed from Arab lands. Muslims have no intention of compensating those Jews and, certainly, the Turks showed the precedent of how to treat infidels in their genocide of 3 million Armenians and Greeks. The fake Palestinians should have been absorbed by adjacent Muslim countries.

    The sane Arab states will put pressure on the "Palestinians" to settle.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-must-make-peace-or-shut-up-saudi-crown-prince-said-to-tell-us-jews/

    Particularly, since the GCC is trashing everyone's asses and that includes Iran. The EU will not go against the US regarding Iran. The EU has been on the side of evil for a long time - for the Paris Climate Accord, against Brexit, for unlimited 3rd world immigration, against free speech, for TPP. Supporting the Iran Deal is evil as well.

    Where is Mohammad bin Salman?

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-has-mohammad-bin-salman-gone-so-quiet/

    . . . he has barely been seen in public since prolonged heavy gunfire was heard at the royal palace in Riyadh in the middle of the night on April 21.

    At the time Saudi state media dismissed reports on Twitter and elsewhere the shots were the sound of a coup taking place, insisting instead the semi-automatic gunfire was merely aimed at a recreational drone that had flown too close to the palace walls.

    In this age of fake news and heavy Arab media censorship it’s hard to know who to trust, but what seems certain is that the Crown Prince, previously ubiquitous as the international focal point of a cultural revolution in the kingdom, seems suddenly to have vanished.

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    Where is Mohammad bin Salman?

    An excellent question. Clearly something has happened. Before the gun fire, MBS was front and center all the time. MBS did not meet the US appointed “world’s cop” (Pompeo) when he was in Saudi.

    No matter what, this is going to slow down Kushner’s plans for the Sunni Arab elite to suck up to Israel.

    Apparently, the Saudi king was taken to a US air base for safe keeping. How totally disgusting. America defending a Wahabis poobob. 9/11 &%^&^%*&^%&[email protected]%&^)()(*%#%@$

    Think Peace --- Art
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  213. @Momus
    From Wikipedia:

    Mel Mermelstein (born September 25, 1926, Örösveg (or Oroszvég, Ukrainian: Rosvyhove, German: Rosswegau), near Munkacs) is a Hungarian-born Jew, sole-survivor of his family's extermination at Auschwitz concentration camp who defeated the Institute for Historical Review in an American court and in 1981 had the occurrence of gassings in Auschwitz during the Holocaust declared a legally incontestable fact.[1]

    From Wikipedia:

    Zionists edit wikipedia to ‘properly’ present Israel; “this kind of knowledge is important for defending Israel . . . it’s so important to be online and to prove to ourselves that we are just and we are right . . .”

    in 1981 had the occurrence of gassings in Auschwitz during the Holocaust declared a legally incontestable fact.[1]

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    There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    As good a place to start as any would be with General Eisenhower's contention that as much documentation of the concentration camp horrors as possible should be recorded.

    This is what Eisenhower said on pages 408-9 of “Crusade in Europe”

    “The same day [April 12, 1945] I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.

    “I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that `the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.’ Some members of the visiting party were unable to through the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.”
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  214. @Momus
    "It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general."

    Irony much?

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, not the rights of the perpetrators.

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, .

    Which one?

    The “persecution” pogroms in Russia that provoked Jacob Schiff to rush in and fund the Bolshvik revolution — but was then discovered to have involved episodic mob violence that cost the lives of 43 — count ‘em, 43 Jews? Far fewer than Palestinians that Israel killed earlier this month.

    Rabbi Stephen Wise belly-ached about “6 million Jews” being “persecuted” sine ~1900.

    How do you say “cry wolf” in Yiddish?

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    The Six Million Man Myth runneth long and wide:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
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  215. Art says:
    @peterAUS
    Getting slightly crude.

    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they’ve been brought to hospital.
     
    You sure this is the proper target audience for such.....work?

    You appear to be on the game. Good.
    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C'mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Say, something which would, most likely, put, say, a British soldier in a prison for murder.

    As, say:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44054776
    With all this video coverage (impossible during "Troubles") that shouldn't be a problem.

    You call.

    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?

    Poor AUS – their peter can type. He is insulting and an embarrassment.

    AUS is a fine Western nation – peter is an anti-Western, failing, false narrative popper.

    Art

    p.s. Why would a Western person lie for the Jews? Really!

    p.s. If you support the Israelis – you have to lie.

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  216. @Zumbuddi
    Compared to Israel, Hamas and the Palestinia s are on a fast-track.

    Jews started colonizing Palestine at latest by 1910.
    In 1930, the project was still sparse and in danger of financial collspse.

    British sponsorship and protection from 1917 to 1948 provided the security guarantee rich Jews required before investing in the project --ideology is one thing but busi eds is business.
    While under the British security blamket, mansions were built for Chain Weizmann & the Schockens; banking was established and a hospital, and the beginnings of Hebrew University.
    In addition to the British providing security in the period 1917 - 1948, Germans provided organizational, cultural and intellectual talent and expertise as well as an infusion of capital. This carried Israel for a time, but the Talmudist Polish Jews who took over Israel never, in all their history, developed the ability to get along with others, not even other Jews.

    Based on ancient as well as more recent bonds among Iran, Germany, and Jews, Iran served as Israel's security "pillar" 1948 - 1979, Iran sharing its oil wealth with still-struggling Israel. By the mid-1960s, Jews opened a major artery into the German body politic/money vault and has vampires on that revenue stream ever since.

    Still, and with all these advantages and supports, well into the 1980s, Israel had not achieved cultural cohesion nor economic vigor.

    Only with the injection of Russian brain power, created by Russian taxpayers then subsidized to migrate by American taxpayers -- only then did Israel start to develop a sound evonomy. "Startup Nation" is very young and was NOT a home-grown phenomenon; there are serious doubts whether Israel's education system can equal the capacities migrated in from Germany and Russia.

    Now, what has Hamas accomished, and what infusions of aid, security, brain power have the Palestinians enjoyed?

    Can you, iffen, construct a. one-to-one matching list of gifts and benefits to Palestine that parallels those to Israel?

    Or is the situation quite the reverse, as Paul C Roberts wrote -- If Gaza builds a house, Israel destroys it; Gaza raises a child, Israel kills him; Gaza elects a leader, Israel vilified and undermines him.

    All things considered, iffen, for perseverance, for reourcefulness, for character and grace, Palestinians earned fullest accolades.

    Israel is an abject failure,

    Jews started colonizing Palestine at latest by 1910.
    In 1930, the project was still sparse and in danger of financial collspse.

    While the Zionist Jews may have started in Palestine, “Israel” has no borders. This makes Nikki Haley’s “who among us would accept this type of activity on your border?” a question like “When did you stop beating your wife?”
    Most of the statements about Israel are idiotic:
    “Israel has a right to defend itself” … and the Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Jordanians don’t?
    “Israel has a right to secure borders.” … OK, what are they?
    “Israel has a right to exist.”… exist as what?; but Palestine doesn’t? Does any country have the “right to exist”? Clearly, Yugoslavia didn’t nor did the Soviet Union.
    “Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East”… You mean the people don’t really vote in Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt?

    All of it is meaningless claptrap.

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  217. anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @freebird
    Possibly a bit naive on the authors part. Undeniable that Iran is the world's leading sponsor of world wide terror and that the country is trying to develop nuclear weapons with the capability of delivering them anywhere on the globe. ---------- Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    Undeniable that Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of world wide terror and that the country is trying to develop nuclear weapons with the capability of delivering them anywhere on the globe.

    In what way is Iran a sponsor of world wide terror? ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra are all sunni muslims not shiites like Iranians. 9/11 was carried out by 19 sunni muslims including 15 from Saudi Arabia. 99% of all terrors committed in western countries are by sunnis. If anything it is Saudi Arabia that is the biggest sponsor of world terror.

    Iran supports Hamas and Hamas’ only target is Israel, because of their incursion into Lebanon and Gaza. Almost all western countries except the US have delisted Hamas as a terror organization. Iran is not a sponsor of world terror but Saudi Arabia is, it’s time for CIA, the neocons and the Jew owned msm in America to tell the truth.

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  218. Art says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Where is Mohammad bin Salman?

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-has-mohammad-bin-salman-gone-so-quiet/

    . . . he has barely been seen in public since prolonged heavy gunfire was heard at the royal palace in Riyadh in the middle of the night on April 21.

    At the time Saudi state media dismissed reports on Twitter and elsewhere the shots were the sound of a coup taking place, insisting instead the semi-automatic gunfire was merely aimed at a recreational drone that had flown too close to the palace walls.

    In this age of fake news and heavy Arab media censorship it’s hard to know who to trust, but what seems certain is that the Crown Prince, previously ubiquitous as the international focal point of a cultural revolution in the kingdom, seems suddenly to have vanished.
     

    Where is Mohammad bin Salman?

    An excellent question. Clearly something has happened. Before the gun fire, MBS was front and center all the time. MBS did not meet the US appointed “world’s cop” (Pompeo) when he was in Saudi.

    No matter what, this is going to slow down Kushner’s plans for the Sunni Arab elite to suck up to Israel.

    Apparently, the Saudi king was taken to a US air base for safe keeping. How totally disgusting. America defending a Wahabis poobob. 9/11 &%^&^%*&^%&[email protected]%&^)()(*%#%@$

    Think Peace — Art

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  219. @iffen
    Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    We don't need no stinking facts. Dem Jews what done it is all anyone needs to know.

    Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    We don’t need no stinking facts. Dem Jews what done it is all anyone needs to know.

    We don’t need no stinking facts. Dem Nazis what done it is all anyone needs to know.

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  220. @Momus
    You need to do some research not suck up the benthos fecal matter fed to you.

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    Like the Horrorcaust is a myth set up by the Zionists.

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    Hey Momus

    they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.
     
    Well damn....you should sue Russia cause everyone knows Jews own the false flag maneuver .
    They stole your act....make them pay.
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  221. Momus says:
    @manorchurch

    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.
     
    WTF? Relevance????

    The Palestinians in Gaza have been systematically denied all rights. Gaza is a concentration camp, Auschwitz-style. A slow genocide, perpetrated by Israel, is being pursued. Some weeks the genocide gets a quick boost as a few dozen Palestinians are murdered by the IDF -- preferably toddlers, women and children.

    It is very clear what YOU are.

    Rights denied to Gazans are denied by their despotic, kleptocratic, theological ‘leaders’ Hamas.
    A good job would be an indentured tunnel worker; try having a beer.

    If they behaved like other Israeli Arabs, instead of arseholes, they would be a lot better off.

    Genocide in the middle of a population explosion? Gaza’s population is growing mightily: 3% a year.

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    Genocide in the middle of a population explosion? Gaza’s population is growing mightily: 3% a year.
     
    Since when did population growth refute the truth of a continuing attempt at genocide? If overall Amerind population increases, while one Amerind tribe, the Bororo, is killed-off, was there or was there not a genocide? In the vernacular, in the way in which the word is bandied about by various interest groups, you betcha there was. (FYI, the Bororo are a real South American tribe -- what's left of it.)

    As one pundit remarked recently, "The screams of firebombed Palestinian children puts a smile on Jesus' face."

    That's YOU, Momus-bob-boy. Baby-killing Nazi. Jesus as killer.
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  222. @Sam Shama

    try ‘googling’ Israel’s ‘Samson Option’…nothing comes up.
     
    Here, let's try Googling 'Samson Option"

    https://www.google.com/search?q=samson+option&oq=Samson+option&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.6643j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Anything else, Brother?

    Yes, there is something else…

    Added to the ramping up of censorship by JEWS who own and control the information apparatus will be an enlarged enlistment of low-rent JEW TROLLS who use fake names like “Sam Sham” and “MOOmus.”

    You’re on the losing side, mr SHAM.

    The “goys” are on to you more and more, the kids now use the JEW word derogatively on their latest social forums, (they’ve left FaceBook) and time will bring on a worse backlash against Jews that would make Hitler look like a schoolmarm.

    Next time around no one will be saying, “oh those poor innocent jews.” Instead they’ll say, “the jews deserve it.”

    +Brother Nathanael
    Publisher of Real Jew News @

    http://www.realjewnews.com/

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    A video of the "most moral military in the world" deliberately running over a Palestinian demonstrator:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oYVH4phV9s
    , @Sam Shama
    Brother Nathanael! I did look forward to receiving a reply from you. But it turns out to be rather unimpressive, all things considered.

    You just got caught lying, claiming that Google doesn't return anything on "The Samson Option".

    I say nothing about your very un-Christian attitude which screams of hatred, bitterness and, not to put too fine a point on it, mental instability.

    Look, Jews like me read posts by you, mainly to entertain ourselves. "Hitler look like a school marm" you say? Personally speaking, a good reprimand from schoolmarm or nanny is what I was brought up to expect. Still brings me to my feet, back erect. Dolf's got nothing on Nanny.

    "goys are on to you" you say? Couldn't tell you how right you are. Must've spoken with my dear better half, didn't you?!

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  223. @jilles dykstra
    Protocols of the Elders of Zion
    "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now." --Henry Ford, 2-17-21, whose newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, cited the Protocols as evidence of an alleged Jewish threat until at least 1927
    "To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion...." --Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery made in Russia for the Okhrana (secret police), which blames the Jews for the country's ills. It was first privately printed in 1897 and was made public in 1905. It is copied from a nineteenth century novel by Hermann Goedsche (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.
    The basic story was composed by Goedsche, a German novelist and anti-Semite who used the pseudonym of Sir John Retcliffe. Goedsche stole the main story from another writer, Maurice Joly, whose Dialogues in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864) involved a Hellish plot aimed at opposing Napoleon III. Goedsche's original contribution consists mainly of introducing Jews to do the plotting to take over the world.
    The Russians used big chunks of a Russian translation of Goedsche's novel, published it separately as the Protocols, and claimed they were authentic. Their purpose was political: to strengthen the czar Nicholas II's position by exposing his opponents as allies with those who were part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world. Thus, the Protocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.
    The Protocols were exposed as a forgery by Lucien Wolf in The Jewish Bogey and the Forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (London: Press Committee of the Jewish Board of Deputies, 1920). In 1921, Philip Grave, a correspondent for the London Times, publicized the forgery. Herman Bernstein in The Truth About "The Protocols of Zion": A Complete Exposure (1935) also tried and failed to convince the world of the forgery.
    The Protocols were published in 1920 in a Michigan newspaper started by Henry Ford mainly to attack Jews and Communists. Even after they were exposed as a forgery, Ford's paper continued to cite the document. Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.
    The Protocols hoax continues to fool people and is still cited by certain individuals and groups as the cause of all their woes.
    See related entries on Holocaust denial, the Illuminati and shoehorning.

    further reading
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
    What's the story with the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"? The Straight Dope
    Bronner, Stephen Eric. A Rumor About the Jews : Reflections on Antisemitism and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (St Martins Press, 2000)
    Cohn, Norman Rufus Colin. Warrant for Genocide; the Myth of the Jewish World-conspiracy and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York: Harper & Row, 1967).
    Goldberg, Isaac. The so-called "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"; a Definitive Exposure of One of the Most Malicious Lies in History (Girard, Kansas, Haldeman-Julius Publications, 1936).
    Segel, B. W. A Lie and a Libel: the History of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Richard S. Levy, translator & editor, (Lincoln, NE : University of Nebraska Press, 1995).
    United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on the Judiciary.
    Protocols of the Elders of Zion; a fabricated "historic" document; a report prepared by the Subcommittee to Investigate the Administration of the Internal Security Act and Other Internal Security Laws ... Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1964.
    Wolf, Lucien. The Myth of the Jewish Menace in World Affairs; or, The Truth About the Forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York, The Macmillan company, 1921).
    ©copyright 2002
    Robert Todd Carroll

    Even if the protocols describe what is happening, they still are fake

    Thus, the Protocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.

    Well that sounds pretty damning, ( a forgery of plagiarized fiction…wow!), until one realizes that they pretty well describe reality. They needn’t have been plagiarized from some fiction.

    In other words, most of those things were known for ages so the “fiction” was probably based on common knowledge.

    For example, I’m confident that if someone wanted to discredit Luther’s Die Juden und ihre Lügen they could successfully claim he “plagiarized” it from some “fiction.”

    I agree with Ford.

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  224. Momus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    From Wikipedia:
     
    Zionists edit wikipedia to 'properly' present Israel; "this kind of knowledge is important for defending Israel . . . it's so important to be online and to prove to ourselves that we are just and we are right . . ."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52LB2fYhoY

    in 1981 had the occurrence of gassings in Auschwitz during the Holocaust declared a legally incontestable fact.[1]
     
    What documentation was presented to support this 'declaration'?

    There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    As good a place to start as any would be with General Eisenhower’s contention that as much documentation of the concentration camp horrors as possible should be recorded.

    This is what Eisenhower said on pages 408-9 of “Crusade in Europe”

    “The same day [April 12, 1945] I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.

    “I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that `the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.’ Some members of the visiting party were unable to through the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.”

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    http://www.us-japandialogueonpows.org/essays/Santotomas%20two.jpg

    If Hitler had been smarter he would have shipped the Jews to Japanese POW camps.....they are lucky he didn't.
    , @renfro
    I sometimes wonder if people like you are jew haters in disguise cause you have to be really really stupid not understand that 99% of the world is sick and tired of you and your eternal whining and it just adds to our disgust with you.

    No one cares about the holocaust any more, most of the younger generations know nothing about it.

    , @jacques sheete

    There are mountains of documents and testimonies.
     
    Mountains of lies.

    Try again.
    , @Anon

    As good a place to start as any would be with General Eisenhower’s contention
     
    Which is of course irrelevant with respect to Auschwitz, which was liberated by Soviets.
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  225. Momus says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Superfluous Momus opined: "This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset."

    Hi Momus,

    First, what is a Momus? Is there a Larrymus? A Curleymus? A Shempmos? Let me know, please, Moe?

    Oh my, how long would be a list to post all the Jewish Lobby-owned ZUS Congressmen & Senators.

    Selah, Zecretary of Ztate, Mike Pompeo's address to the Heritage Foundation on inevitable "regime change" requirement in Iran.

    Research is not your strong point eh Chuckles?

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    The stooge Momus noted: "Research is not your strong point eh Chuckles?"

    Correct, MoEmos, presently school bus driving is my specialty!

    As Brother Renfro brought up the matter of your tribe's False Flag specialty (comment 230), you may chuckle along with the people who took to shits & giggles after the successful "False Flag King David Hotel" bombing, 1946. Please refer to the video linked, below, Moe?

    https://youtu.be/U8ZavzbeaFE

    B.t.w., thanks for the Bush League-level of ridicule. You gave it your best!
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  226. L.K says:
    @jilles dykstra
    It is the other way round.
    Israel is the cause that the number of Palestinians grew explosively.
    The 800.000 or so of 1948 now is some seven million.
    The cause is that just married men with children are allowed to work in Israel, just families get UN food aid.
    As a consequence, they marry at fifteen.
    The big zionist mistake is not to have committed genocide when it still was possible, in 1948, no video cameras, no satellite connections, no Youtube.
    Hardly any telex connections, a telex that could send pictures, no idea if it even existed at the time.

    You keep repeating this BS, man.

    By 1947, the Palestinians represented roughly 70% of the population of Palestine, this after decades of jew immigration.

    Before the Zionist project, there were hardly any Jews in Palestine, and 95-98% were Palestinian Muslims & Christians.

    Finally, in 1947 the British announced that they would be ending their control of Palestine, which had been created through the League of Nations following World War One, and turned the question of Palestine over to the United Nations.

    At this time, the Zionist immigration and buyout project had increased the Jewish population of Palestine to 30 percent and land ownership from 1 percent to approximately 6 percent.

    The Real Story of How Israel Was Created
    Alison Weir
    CounterPunch & AntiWar.com

    http://ifamericaknew.org/history/realstory.html

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  227. renfro says:
    @Momus
    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history - it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn't stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don't think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

    Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    And therein lies your holocaust problem:


    Judicial notice nevertheless remains useful for admitting documents
    into evidence because
    [t]he taking of “judicial notice of court records” is actually a
    convenient shorthand for two distinct concepts—importing the
    documents into the record of the matter at hand and establishing
    their authenticity. Importing the documents into the record
    really is not a matter of judicial notice at all; it is a matter of
    offering evidence.9

    If you are envisioning using “common knowledge” as a holocaust tool in a court you still have to provide documents ,evidence and proof….its not just a matter of Jews say so or how many people believe what.

    Which if you are being challenged on your holocaust your opponent will also submit documents , records and evidence to the judge or jury…..probably using official records from the Red Cross , DP records and a myriad of reports from at the time reports and subsequent opposing investigators. So you still have to prove, beyond just Jews say so, that whatever you are claiming…i.e, 6 million, gas chambers, etc……are true, with evidence…..and frankly stories from so called survivors have already been somewhat tainted by all the fake survivors that have been exposed.

    So for you judicial notice isn’t really a slam dunk

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  228. gwynedd1 says:
    @manorchurch

    Genocide is a loaded term. What do we really mean by it?
     
    Loaded term? It sure is. It should be, doncha think? If Israelis are putting great effort into corraling Palestinians into what is, essentially, a concentration camp worthy of any SS ambition, I feel quite comfortable referring to the process as genocide. Genocide is the purpose, therefore genocide is the correct term. Another useful term might be, oh, say "fish in a barrel"?

    OK, more or less you are saying that Israel has arranged for the easy disposal of Palestinians in their helpless state. Agreed. However its not really genocide until its genocide. However yes the population is quite precarious.

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    OK, more or less you are saying that Israel has arranged for the easy disposal of Palestinians in their helpless state. Agreed. However its not really genocide until its genocide. However yes the population is quite precarious.
     
    The truth is that the mendacious Jews want to erase the word "Palestine" from human history.

    They say that there never was a place called "Palestine."

    There is no end to Jew coercion. They respect no one.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Look at all the trash talk coming from the Jews on this article.

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  229. annamaria says:
    @Momus
    You need to do some research not suck up the benthos fecal matter fed to you.

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    But the documents showing Jacob Schiff financing the anti-Russian activities are real. Same with the documents showing the Jewish Bolsheviks’ sadism against Russians.
    You seem to be in support of research. Well. There is a great documentary “Two Hundred Years Together” by Solzhenitsyn; the book is filled with the riches of factual material.
    The history of ziocons in the US is still in the making. See the Middle Eastern Wars for Israel on the US dime & limb. See also the ongoing process of banderization of Ukraine, courtesy of the leading US ziocons.

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  230. renfro says:
    @jacques sheete

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.
     
    Like the Horrorcaust is a myth set up by the Zionists.

    Hey Momus

    they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    Well damn….you should sue Russia cause everyone knows Jews own the false flag maneuver .
    They stole your act….make them pay.

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  231. Art says:
    @gwynedd1
    OK, more or less you are saying that Israel has arranged for the easy disposal of Palestinians in their helpless state. Agreed. However its not really genocide until its genocide. However yes the population is quite precarious.

    OK, more or less you are saying that Israel has arranged for the easy disposal of Palestinians in their helpless state. Agreed. However its not really genocide until its genocide. However yes the population is quite precarious.

    The truth is that the mendacious Jews want to erase the word “Palestine” from human history.

    They say that there never was a place called “Palestine.”

    There is no end to Jew coercion. They respect no one.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Look at all the trash talk coming from the Jews on this article.

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    Jews have a certain kind of stupidity that isn't curable.


    To quote the renowned historian/anthropologist and “Holy Land” specialist, Professor Ilene Beatty:

    “When we speak of ‘Palestinians’ or of the ‘Arab population [of Palestine]‘, we must bear in mind their Canaanite origin. This is important because their legal right to the country stems…from the fact that the Canaanites were first, which gives them priority; their descendants have continued to live there, which gives them continuity; and (except for the 800,000 dispossessed refugees [of 1948 along with the further hundreds of thousands expelled before and after the war Israel launched on 5 June 1967]) they are still living there, which gives them present possession. Thus we see that on purely statistical grounds they have a proven legal right to their own land.” (“Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan,” 1957)
    In short, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have been living continuously between the River and the Sea for about 9,000 years.
    , @Hessler
    Agree 100%

    and don't forget they lie about koran too that it doesn't mention Al Quds a.k.a Jerusalem. A jew posted the same argument at me thinking that no one here has ever read the koran and as usual my response to his argument was neglected.

    http://www.unz.com/article/jews-baptize-new-american-embassy-with-palestinian-blood-58-dead-and-2700-wounded/#comment-2338728
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  232. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Yes, Judicial Notice is an established precedent, and that legal procedure rests on

    ~ sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.
    ~ facts are outside of reasonable controversy,
    ~ A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite.

    These characteristics do not apply to the ordained narratives of the holocaust ™

    The primary, or foundational notion of American legal process is that all parties are entitled to an unprejudiced hearing. That basic principle has not yet been applied to the so-called holocaust: the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing, and the Jewish side has been gathered and presented (relentlessly) in emotion-laden tones and downright mendacity, with German defendants under duress, torture, acknowledged psychological warfare.

    the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing,

    As far as I know the Germans were reluctant to say very much and still are.

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    As far as I know
     
    Q E D
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  233. renfro says:
    @Momus
    There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    As good a place to start as any would be with General Eisenhower's contention that as much documentation of the concentration camp horrors as possible should be recorded.

    This is what Eisenhower said on pages 408-9 of “Crusade in Europe”

    “The same day [April 12, 1945] I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.

    “I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that `the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.’ Some members of the visiting party were unable to through the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.”

    If Hitler had been smarter he would have shipped the Jews to Japanese POW camps…..they are lucky he didn’t.

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  234. iffen says:
    @Incitatus
    "I guess I could compliment Israel for doing their part, but I don’t see a lot of options available to them."

    Non-lethal intervention (tear gas, water cannon, etc.), only when absolutely necessary?

    Dichter’s “If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem” seems criminally suggestive, no better than fringe Palestinian rhetoric.

    Non-lethal intervention (tear gas, water cannon, etc.), only when absolutely necessary?

    I haven’t followed the details closely. I don’t know if that would work or not. The essential point is that they can’t allow a breach. The cleanup from that would be a colossal PR disaster.

    no better than fringe Palestinian rhetoric

    Right, and as more of these types come to power the more support they will lose.

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    The essential point is that they can’t allow a breach. The cleanup from that would be a colossal PR disaster.
     
    Agree.

    It would be interesting to see who, exactly, orders the firing (position, rank). Assesses the situation at the spot and orders fire.

    It looks as team/squad leaders can do that. Israeli NCOs.

    Could be wrong.

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  235. renfro says:
    @Momus
    There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    As good a place to start as any would be with General Eisenhower's contention that as much documentation of the concentration camp horrors as possible should be recorded.

    This is what Eisenhower said on pages 408-9 of “Crusade in Europe”

    “The same day [April 12, 1945] I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.

    “I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that `the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.’ Some members of the visiting party were unable to through the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.”

    I sometimes wonder if people like you are jew haters in disguise cause you have to be really really stupid not understand that 99% of the world is sick and tired of you and your eternal whining and it just adds to our disgust with you.

    No one cares about the holocaust any more, most of the younger generations know nothing about it.

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  236. There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    Indeed there are: tons of documents, in fact, gathered primarily by German Jews during and after the war, and sent to USA where Gerhard Weinberg led a team who copied them, sent the originals back to Germany and the photostats to US archives, where Robert Wolfe, also Jewish, controlled access to the German Archive for several decades.

    The chain of custody leaves something to be desired: were documents incriminating of Allies/Jews destroyed? Were all of the documents returned to Germany (we know from Major-General Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof that the answer to that question is NO. )

    Nevertheless, with this unprecedented in all of history trove of documents, not one scrap of evidence could be found to support the assertion that NSDAP planned and carried out a “systematic, industrialized, extermination of every Jewish man, woman and child they could get their hands on.”

    A new, Jew-approved hagiographer has just published a biography of Eisenhower (similarly re Jimmy Carter), so I’m guessing the Rational Institute has determined that the Merkun people need to have their I Like Ike buttons burnished. Triggered, perhaps, by a surfeit of hits on videos and essays on Eisenhower’s Death Camps, where he gave orders that German POWs be re-classified as Disarmed Enemy Combatants, thus outside the purview of required accommodation of POWs, therefore, he starved them to death.

    Volumes could be written to discredit Eisenhower and ‘evidence’ he gathered, or planted, post-surrender, but pearls before swine and all that.

    The short summery is, The statement you quoted proves nothing; it is not a document stating what NSDAP plans were, or what was carried out.

    Try again.

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    Interesting. I went to Wikipedia to read about Gen. Schultze-Rhonhof, having never heard of him. This led me to Udo Walendy, a German publisher and colleague of the general, who has encountered difficulties in his country due to his questioning of the Holocaust. In 1999, he served 15 months in prison for publicly questioning the Holocaust.
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  237. renfro says:
    @Art

    OK, more or less you are saying that Israel has arranged for the easy disposal of Palestinians in their helpless state. Agreed. However its not really genocide until its genocide. However yes the population is quite precarious.
     
    The truth is that the mendacious Jews want to erase the word "Palestine" from human history.

    They say that there never was a place called "Palestine."

    There is no end to Jew coercion. They respect no one.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Look at all the trash talk coming from the Jews on this article.

    Jews have a certain kind of stupidity that isn’t curable.

    To quote the renowned historian/anthropologist and “Holy Land” specialist, Professor Ilene Beatty:

    “When we speak of ‘Palestinians’ or of the ‘Arab population [of Palestine]‘, we must bear in mind their Canaanite origin. This is important because their legal right to the country stems…from the fact that the Canaanites were first, which gives them priority; their descendants have continued to live there, which gives them continuity; and (except for the 800,000 dispossessed refugees [of 1948 along with the further hundreds of thousands expelled before and after the war Israel launched on 5 June 1967]) they are still living there, which gives them present possession. Thus we see that on purely statistical grounds they have a proven legal right to their own land.” (“Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan,” 1957)
    In short, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have been living continuously between the River and the Sea for about 9,000 years.

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    In short, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have been living continuously between the River and the Sea for about 9,000 years.

    renfro,

    Thanks much – am saving that whole quote.

    The Jews will see it again and again and again.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @anon
    Per the Encyclopedia Britannica, the Philistines are a group of people who arrived in the Levant around 12th century B.C. They occupied a region from present day Tel Aviv to Gaza. Later the Greeks referred to the whole region as Palestine. They conquered the Canaanites.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Philistine-people

    More interesting stuff from LiveScience:
    https://www.livescience.com/55429-philistines.html


    The reliability of the texts that refer to them is another issue that scholars encounter. Many of the surviving ancient texts come from the Hebrew Bible. The stories told in the Hebrew Bible claim that the Philistines were often in conflict with King David, a ruler who supposedly controlled a powerful Israelite kingdom around 3,000 years ago. However, research by a number of archaeologists, including Israel Finkelstein, a professor at Tel Aviv University, has found that there is little archaeological evidence that a powerful Israelite kingdom led by a king named David existed.

    Jerusalem, which was supposed to be King David’s capital, appears to have been sparsely populated around 3,000 years ago, Finkelstein says.

    “Over a century of archaeological explorations in Jerusalem — the capital of the glamorous biblical United Monarchy — failed to reveal evidence for any meaningful 10th-century building activity,” wrote Finkelstein in a paper published in 2010 in the book “One God? One Cult? One Nation: Archaeological and Biblical Perspectives” (De Gruyter, 2010).

    Finkelstein says that if a united Israelite kingdom did exist 3,000 years ago it likely would have been a small entity, located in the highlands — away from the Mediterranean coast.
     

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  238. @iffen
    the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing,

    As far as I know the Germans were reluctant to say very much and still are.

    As far as I know

    Q E D

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    Verbose, gyrating dribbling by a non-German in 2018 purporting to explain how the Jews got what they deserved (except they didn’t really get it) do not count.
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  239. Airhead iffen said: “As far as I know the Germans were reluctant to say very much and still are.”

    Hi iffen,

    Since your tutor has yet to make an appearance here, I will help.

    (Zigh)

    You need to take your thought to the next level, and ask “why” your own words brought you to such an unusually valid conclusion.

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  240. Iris says:
    @peterAUS
    Getting slightly crude.

    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they’ve been brought to hospital.
     
    You sure this is the proper target audience for such.....work?

    You appear to be on the game. Good.
    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C'mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Say, something which would, most likely, put, say, a British soldier in a prison for murder.

    As, say:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44054776
    With all this video coverage (impossible during "Troubles") that shouldn't be a problem.

    You call.

    A video of the “greatest democracy in the ME”‘s military, beating and abusing wounded Palestinians they just shot, and attacking the unarmed first-aiders and nurses coming to the rescue.

    Your ilk belongs to a Nuremberg tribunal.

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    Thanks for the video Iris.

    Just want to expand a little on your post. The people with infinite hate for the Arabs/Muslims, completely deprived of morality and introspection and with fabricated divine status of muslims like merely animals, anyone expects Jews to behave in any other way is delusional and loaded.
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  241. Iris says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Yes, there is something else...

    Added to the ramping up of censorship by JEWS who own and control the information apparatus will be an enlarged enlistment of low-rent JEW TROLLS who use fake names like "Sam Sham" and "MOOmus."

    You're on the losing side, mr SHAM.

    The "goys" are on to you more and more, the kids now use the JEW word derogatively on their latest social forums, (they've left FaceBook) and time will bring on a worse backlash against Jews that would make Hitler look like a schoolmarm.

    Next time around no one will be saying, "oh those poor innocent jews." Instead they'll say, "the jews deserve it."

    +Brother Nathanael
    Publisher of Real Jew News @
    http://www.realjewnews.com/

    A video of the “most moral military in the world” deliberately running over a Palestinian demonstrator:

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  242. @Momus
    Research is not your strong point eh Chuckles?

    The stooge Momus noted: “Research is not your strong point eh Chuckles?”

    Correct, MoEmos, presently school bus driving is my specialty!

    As Brother Renfro brought up the matter of your tribe’s False Flag specialty (comment 230), you may chuckle along with the people who took to shits & giggles after the successful “False Flag King David Hotel” bombing, 1946. Please refer to the video linked, below, Moe?

    B.t.w., thanks for the Bush League-level of ridicule. You gave it your best!

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  243. All I got to say is thank you Mr Giraldi for exposing the lies with the truth! Keep up the good work!

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  244. Art says:
    @renfro
    Jews have a certain kind of stupidity that isn't curable.


    To quote the renowned historian/anthropologist and “Holy Land” specialist, Professor Ilene Beatty:

    “When we speak of ‘Palestinians’ or of the ‘Arab population [of Palestine]‘, we must bear in mind their Canaanite origin. This is important because their legal right to the country stems…from the fact that the Canaanites were first, which gives them priority; their descendants have continued to live there, which gives them continuity; and (except for the 800,000 dispossessed refugees [of 1948 along with the further hundreds of thousands expelled before and after the war Israel launched on 5 June 1967]) they are still living there, which gives them present possession. Thus we see that on purely statistical grounds they have a proven legal right to their own land.” (“Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan,” 1957)
    In short, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have been living continuously between the River and the Sea for about 9,000 years.

    In short, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have been living continuously between the River and the Sea for about 9,000 years.

    renfro,

    Thanks much – am saving that whole quote.

    The Jews will see it again and again and again.

    Think Peace — Art

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  245. renfro says:

    Well this is going to send Trump into further fits of rage…lol So will he give up his twittering or break the law by still blocking critics? We shall see.

    Trump can’t block users from his Twitter feed, federal judge rules

    Blocking users from viewing his Twitter account is unconstitutional and a violation of the First Amendment, according to the judge.
    by Tom Winter and Elizabeth Chuck / May.23.2018 / 1:13 PM ET / Updated 2:12 PM ET
    NBC

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  246. Sam Shama says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Yes, there is something else...

    Added to the ramping up of censorship by JEWS who own and control the information apparatus will be an enlarged enlistment of low-rent JEW TROLLS who use fake names like "Sam Sham" and "MOOmus."

    You're on the losing side, mr SHAM.

    The "goys" are on to you more and more, the kids now use the JEW word derogatively on their latest social forums, (they've left FaceBook) and time will bring on a worse backlash against Jews that would make Hitler look like a schoolmarm.

    Next time around no one will be saying, "oh those poor innocent jews." Instead they'll say, "the jews deserve it."

    +Brother Nathanael
    Publisher of Real Jew News @
    http://www.realjewnews.com/

    Brother Nathanael! I did look forward to receiving a reply from you. But it turns out to be rather unimpressive, all things considered.

    You just got caught lying, claiming that Google doesn’t return anything on “The Samson Option”.

    I say nothing about your very un-Christian attitude which screams of hatred, bitterness and, not to put too fine a point on it, mental instability.

    Look, Jews like me read posts by you, mainly to entertain ourselves. “Hitler look like a school marm” you say? Personally speaking, a good reprimand from schoolmarm or nanny is what I was brought up to expect. Still brings me to my feet, back erect. Dolf’s got nothing on Nanny.

    “goys are on to you” you say? Couldn’t tell you how right you are. Must’ve spoken with my dear better half, didn’t you?!

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    Maven Sam Shama suggested to Brother Nathanael: "Must’ve spoken with my dear better half, didn’t you?!"

    Uh..., Maven, I see no evidence that Brother Nathanael spoke with your "dear better half," Incitatus.
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  247. @Momus
    Rights denied to Gazans are denied by their despotic, kleptocratic, theological 'leaders' Hamas.
    A good job would be an indentured tunnel worker; try having a beer.

    If they behaved like other Israeli Arabs, instead of arseholes, they would be a lot better off.

    Genocide in the middle of a population explosion? Gaza's population is growing mightily: 3% a year.

    Genocide in the middle of a population explosion? Gaza’s population is growing mightily: 3% a year.

    Since when did population growth refute the truth of a continuing attempt at genocide? If overall Amerind population increases, while one Amerind tribe, the Bororo, is killed-off, was there or was there not a genocide? In the vernacular, in the way in which the word is bandied about by various interest groups, you betcha there was. (FYI, the Bororo are a real South American tribe — what’s left of it.)

    As one pundit remarked recently, “The screams of firebombed Palestinian children puts a smile on Jesus’ face.”

    That’s YOU, Momus-bob-boy. Baby-killing Nazi. Jesus as killer.

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  248. @Momus
    "It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general."

    Irony much?

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, not the rights of the perpetrators.

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history…

    We must be talking about the tens of millions of German folk who were brutalized for years, thanks to the Bolshies, international banksters, common Jewish thugs, and French officials during WW1, and for years after the Versailles Extortion Treaty, no?

    [Crackpots] with criminal records and stormy, prize-fighting characters were spirited out of the underworld and given unofficial protection as agents for the establishment of a Rhineland Republic.
    The idea was, by fostering anarchy, to frighten the Germans into acquiescence. Bands of gangsters were conveyed free of charge on French trains to meetings which usually developed into bloody and destructive frays.

    -Arthur Bryant, Unfinished Victory, pp126-7 (1940)

    https://archive.org/stream/ArthurBryantUnfinishedVictory1940V1/Arthur%20Bryant%20-%20Unfinished%20Victory%20%281940%29%20-%20v1_djvu.txt

    Bryant catalogues many other ways that Germans and others were terrorized and starved into submission long after the “peace” treaty..

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  249. anon[411] • Disclaimer says:

    Haley reserves her crocodile tears for the fake victims of bogus Syrian gas attacks.

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    If you wanna know how the worst of our kind are, Haley is a fine contender. She aboviously doesn't share the "Jewish Agenda" of racial superiority. She is in it for the advancement of her career. As a compensation she sold out her soul to the lucifier's right hand a.k.a The world Jewry.

    She preaches justice, peace ONLY where it fits the "Jewish agenda" rest is all garbage.
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  250. peterAUS says:
    @iffen
    Non-lethal intervention (tear gas, water cannon, etc.), only when absolutely necessary?

    I haven't followed the details closely. I don't know if that would work or not. The essential point is that they can't allow a breach. The cleanup from that would be a colossal PR disaster.

    no better than fringe Palestinian rhetoric

    Right, and as more of these types come to power the more support they will lose.

    The essential point is that they can’t allow a breach. The cleanup from that would be a colossal PR disaster.

    Agree.

    It would be interesting to see who, exactly, orders the firing (position, rank). Assesses the situation at the spot and orders fire.

    It looks as team/squad leaders can do that. Israeli NCOs.

    Could be wrong.

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