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I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was the sixth such conference, intended to bring together speakers from a number of countries to discuss issues involving Middle Eastern security and identity issues.

To be sure, Iran, threatened as it is from all sides, has certain aspects of a security state. And as what is essentially a partial democracy run along religious lines, it has very clear limits on what constitutes acceptable behavior. But I think the representatives of the thirty or so countries who attended the congress would agree that there was no attempt made to limit free speech or guide discussions. The only attempt to censor the conference and its content has been, I would note, the blocking of sponsor New Horizon’s website on Google and presumably elsewhere in the Zionist/U.S. dominated social media and information-searching world. Indeed, the only coordinated activity that might have been noted at the conference itself was the loud hissing noise that accompanied any mention of the name John Bolton.

Indeed, there was clear criticism of the nature of the Iranian government openly expressed at the conference as well as very heated exchanges on a number of issues surrounding Jewish identity, Israel, the Palestinians, the status of Jerusalem and the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Agreement (JCPOA) on the Iranian nuclear program. Privately, many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change. It should be noted that such comments were not provoked by anything that any of us said. We were indeed being careful not to offend the host country or to get the organizers in trouble, perhaps more cautious than we had to be.

One might also mention that the timing of the conference and associated activities was particularly appropriate as it came on the heels of the President Donald Trump’s abandonment of the JCPOA and the slaughter of Palestinian protesters by the Israeli Army in Gaza. We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more. A baby that was in an area far outside of the area where the shooting was taking place died after being suffocated by the clouds of teargas being used by the Israelis. It was ghastly and it was disgusting. Predictably the Israeli shills in both the U.S. and from Israel itself made the victim the guilty party, arguing that the child should never have been so close to the “fighting” there in Gaza in the first place.

And for those who are concerned that the Israeli Army might even run out of bullets, rest assured that all appropriate steps are being taken. Knesset member Avi Dichter reassured the audience on live television the army “has enough bullets for everyone. If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem.”

I have been invited to Iran before, but as an ex-CIA it was complicated for me to get a visa to make the journey. In this case, however, the hard work and networking of the conference sponsors prevailed, making it possible for me and some friends formerly working for the Pentagon to speak and also participate in the numerous panels. We were an instant hit among the attendees and also for the Iranian public, being featured in the local and national media and interviewed over and over again.

To be sure, some will say that we were little more than useful idiots, invited to disparage the United States and provide aid and comfort to its enemies, but that would assume there was any effort to enforce uniformity in the speeches and comments, which, as I have already noted, was not the case. There was, indeed, a theme of the conference, which was essentially that the U.S. recognition of Jerusalem was a new catastrophe delivered by Washington on the backs of the long suffering Palestinian people, virtually guaranteeing that a Palestinian state will never be allowed to develop. And U.S. uncritical support of Israel and its fascistic leader Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is, of course, the root cause of the problem, something that was discussed in some depth.

I will not make any attempt to describe the speeches and speakers at the conference as I am sure that such material will be surfacing independently through the alternative media over the next few days, but I would like to share some impressions as well as some particularly well-made points that emerged about the current and, unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.

Many at the conference came away convinced that the White House’s rejection of JCPOA was a watershed moment. The anger in Europe clearly being expressed in their national media last week reflects an understanding that the United States is no longer interested in cooperating with anyone to reduce the risk of war. If European nations act in support of their rhetoric there will be an increase in efforts to distance themselves from Washington. This will include mechanisms to work around American sanctions, to include buying Iranian oil with Euros instead of dollars and selling to Iran in ways that avoid U.S. banks as conduits. The eventual result, which will undoubtedly be supported by China and Russia, would mean a flight from dollars as the world reserve currency. The reduced acceptability of the dollar in turn would mean that the Federal Reserve will be unable to continue to print fiat money to support U.S. interventions, with severe repercussions for the American economy.

And the participants at the conference would likely agree that the United States government has no credibility, by which I mean NONE. It is not particularly a Trump issue but rather a Trump-Obama-Bush problem that has been festering ever since 9/11 if not before. We conference participants watched the slaying of the Palestinians and, by split screen, also witnessed how someone named Raj Shah at the White House told reporters at a press briefing that “The responsibility for these tragic deaths rests squarely with Hamas. Hamas is intentionally and cynically provoking this response” as “a gruesome and unfortunate propaganda attempt.” Sure didn’t look like that, Raj.

And meanwhile over at the United Nations, the irrepressible so-called American Ambassador Nikki Haley vetoed a Russian proposal seeking an investigation into the carnage, explaining that that Hamas, aided of course by Iran, was to blame for the violence. “I ask my colleagues here in the Security Council: who among us would accept this type of activity on your border? No one would. No country in this chamber would act with more restraint than Israel has.” She then walked out when Riyad Mansour, the Palestinian Permanent Representative to the United Nations began to speak.

Combining the words “Israel” and “restraint” in one sentence just might be a breakthrough moment for the hard charging Nikki, but one hopes for another breakthrough on her part in the ability to see dead Palestinian children as real human beings rather than just as targets for Israeli sharpshooters. Indeed, Haley might must consider that there are a lot of human beings floating around who are perfectly decent individuals finding themselves just a bit tired of being stamped on by the United States and its mad dog Israel.

The biggest lesson I learned in Iran was that in spite of all the years of abuse, Iranians still like and respect Americans. I heard over and over again expressions of that fact from ordinary people and sophisticates alike. They would love to have a good relationship and an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen. The only problem is that the United States doesn’t do that anymore. For that reason, the Iranians expressing their liking for the U.S. did have one problem. They can’t stand what the U.S. government is doing all over the world. Well, neither can I and I told them so, as did the twenty or so other Americans present at the conference. I also told them that, unfortunately, the door to Washington is controlled by Israel, which has been doing an expert job at defaming Iran for the past thirty years. The door won’t open anytime soon.

And as sometimes what is expected does not take place, I have to report that I was not harassed by the U.S. authorities when I returned home. Other American conference participants who had long involvement in the peace movement had told harrowing stories of being hounded by the federal government every time they left the country and returned. In my case, I had been headlined in the Iranian and Middle Eastern media during the whole time of the conference and surely was picked up through the intensive USGOV monitoring of all things going on in Iran. I had fully expected to be approached by two thugs with badges on arrival, but they didn’t show up. Maybe next time.

 
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  1. Bravo! You are a very brave and righteous man, Phil Giraldi, and a trailblazer worthy of emulation. We are fortunate to have you!

    • Agree: RobinG, Carroll Price
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  2. peterAUS says:

    ….many Iranians we encountered were quite free in expressing their dislike of the religious leadership and their desire for dramatic change.

    Interesting.

    We watched in amazement on live television coverage as the snipers shot dead 58 unarmed Arabs and wounded two thousand more.

    I tried to find those videos. Not easy…..

    Examples:

    My take: inconclusive.

    Good video. My take: A woman with a flag does feel as a murder. Now, it is possible (“condition unknown”) that she was shot in a leg (I’ve seen a fit man dropping as a sack, in shock, after being shot in a leg…or so I say).

    Interesting. Especially “Allahu akbar”.

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.
    Taking into account the parameters there, not great, but good enough.

    Yes, I know, that makes me something really nasty and a part of very tiny minority here, but, unfortunately for the majority around, free speech is still working fine on this site.

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.
    That’s for IDF and shooting, only, here, not getting into who’s right and wrong there.

    I guess that Greasy Williams explained that (right and wrong) rather well in that another thread about all this mayhem there. Just imagine his opposite reply.

    I was wrong. It’s not medieval. It’s ancient.

    …unfortunately, burgeoning conflict in the Middle East.

    Yup. Emphasize on “burgeoning”.

  3. Biff says:

    Sounds like the Iranians are more plugged into world affairs than Americans. The Yankee media has been streamlined leaving them completely isolated from the rest of the world.

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped? The crash of the dollar is the only thing I can think of.

  4. llloyd says: • Website

    I actually kind a agree with what you say. But how has this developed? Gaza because of the blockade has become a gigantic third world kind of prison compound. The inmates have launched a mass prison outbreak and their guards are shooting them down with intent not generally to kill them but to incapacitate them. What is the solution? Improve the conditions by removing the blockade except for weaponry. Rehabilitate the inmates until they could actually be let out. Maybe they could then go on a shopping spree in Tel Aviv. I checked the Lonely Planet report on Gaza. Lonely Planet does whatever it realistically can to encourage tourism. Are there shopping malls in Gaza as recent videos claimed? If they ever existed, they are gone. It really is a bombed out shit hole full of people approaching a mass mental break down.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @anon
    , @Caruthers
  5. Great job, Philip. You are doing excellent and important work.

    Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident that neocons, crypto-Israelis, deep-pocket Zionists, liberal interventionists, and the usual cabal of tribal supremacists have taken control of Washington and American culture in general. What we have in our midst is an ongoing, invisible coup. America has been captured.

    A viable, legitimate, anti-Zionist position in US culture no longer exists. It’s not allowed to. Resistance is not only marginalized, it is being criminalized; one insidious step at a time. The coordination is vast, sophisticated and ruthless.

    This phenomena is unique. It is partially hidden. Many do not see it at all. Some sense it. Many who do understand it and see the complex process behind it remain silent and afraid. Identifying the source is forbidden. Objecting to it requires oblique, obsequious cant. Most simply refuse to look there.

    If the usual suspects get their way, certain areas of dissent will soon become ‘speech crimes’, carrying criminal penalties. This, incredibly, is the direction in which we are headed. In fact, we are already partly there.

    ‘Denying’ the Holocaust can land you in prison. Advocating for a lethal, cataclysmic, preemptive war on an enemy of Israel’s on the other hand can win you the Presidency.

    Jewish influence has attained such power as to make the very discussion of Jewish power OFF LIMITS.

    This moral distortion is a political cancer. It affects the entire world. It undermines fairness. It destabilizes world order. It has turned the US into a rogue superpower.

    Until the American people can 1) re-assert their political authority and 2) reimpose ‘national interests’ (as well as the rule of law) as a fundamental, guiding principles attached to all US policies, millions of lives are at risk. Just count the bodies. They’re real. In Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine. And the ancient civilization of Iran–a nation the poses no conceivable military threat to the US–is our next target.

    The economic interests as well as security interests of the United States have become deeply compromised via extra-national subterfuge.

    Who do I blame for this?

    Sure, there’s plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The ‘military-industrial complex’. And of course there’s Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

  6. Momus says:

    You could not know what the result of the warning fire was: a bruise or a wound.

    Getting hit with a rubber bullet in the leg will drop you like a bag of shit; as so many of these ‘kill’ vids show.

    If I was hit Palo I would be more worried about the possible injury complications caused by my brothers picking me up by the extremities and racing off with me.

    • Replies: @Iris
  7. Momus says:

    Lol at benthos PG’s hope for martyrdom at the hands of two badged thugs.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  8. utu says:
    @mark green

    Who do I blame for this?

    I would include all the IQists (like at iSteve here at the UR) spreading their mantra which leads to a knee jerk reflex if not a conscious belief that lower IQ people always deserve what they get and thus do not deserve our compassion while on the other end of the IQ scale which presumably is populated by Jews nothing can’t be done wrong.

    • Troll: manorchurch
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    , @Anon
  9. Momus says:
    @mark green

    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west; it is well known and well regarded.

  10. Momus says:
    @Biff

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped?

    Duped about what?

    • Replies: @windwaves
    , @Grumbler
    , @Biff
  11. Realist says:

    Phil, thank God you’re back on point. Your little girls club was apoplectic last week when you got off subject.

  12. Trump’s disgraceful Zionist directed withdrawal from the Iran agreement must surely place the Europeans at a watershed moment.
    The EU has vast amounts of money & prestige invested in this agreement. Should the EU roll over on its back, like a fearful dog, in the face of US sanctions inspired aggressions, any sense of respect, of self respect for the EU will be impossible. It would represent one of the most naked expressions of Sovereign cowardness in history. It would make Munich look like bravery & statesmanship.
    And, of course, this all comes on top of many years of European cowardness (& Elite greed for US dollars). The US’s open, blatant snubbing of the Minsk agreement (US offensive weopons delivered to Kiev in last month) & support for the Ukraine Junta are just more evidence of European moral & political corruption.

    • Replies: @Wally
  13. @Cloak And Dagger

    Bravo, and Brave and Righteous, and all that, but mostly what I’m thinking is ENVY!

    I wish I could have been there!

    Iran is so beautiful; the cause is so important; your advocacy is so deep-rooted and vital — I wish I could have witnessed the conference in real time.

    Thanks a million for the report, Phil, and I hope we will hear more about the conferees and the topic.

    Until then –

    Will Trump’s Pyrrhic Victory End with America’s Role As Global Bully?
    By Philip M. Giraldi

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49451.htm

    • Replies: @RobinG
  14. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    It is not particularly a Trump issue but rather a Trump-Obama-Bush problem that has been festering ever since 9/11 if not before.

    Definitely way before the “Three Stooges” for Israel stole into the WH, with plenty of American Jewish money backing them.

    That Iranians still proclaim to like Americans shows us what a kind, forgiving and sensible people they are.

    From 1953 on, when our CIA and Britain’s MI6 overthrew the democratically elected Iranian President Mossadegh, for having the balls to ask that Iran’s oil resources be used to enhance Iran’s economy and not Western fat cats pockets, to installing the brutal Shah, whose SAVAK intelligence service turned into a brutal oppressor of the Iranians, with CIA-backing, leading to 26 years of murderous oppression, to the US Navy–while in Iranian territorial waters–shooting down Iran Air Flight 655, a huge Airbus 300, which the Navy claimed, or rather lied and said the radar signature showed it to be an Iranian Air Force F-14, to the US instigated Iraq invasion of Iran, a brutal war that saw our then buddy Saddam Hussein use American provided poison gas against Iranian troops, to the current endless rounds of punitive sanctions against Iran would make almost any nation hate the state that has attacked them relentlessly for over 65 years, but not the peace-loving Iranians.

    There is only ONE reason the Pentagon and POTUS are threatening Iran, and that reason is Israel and its control of the USG. Not only of our foreign policy, but many other areas, such as our MSM, banking, Hollywood and most of the huge, monolithic Internet companies thru their American sayanim, which is Yiddish term for an American Jew who is actually loyal to Israel, not the nation they live and work in.
    Control which they use to endlessly propagandize Americans into thinking Israel is our friend and ally, when in fact, Israel is one of our worst enemies, attacking us many times, and using their power over the MSM to make Americans think that all Muslims are crazed, knife-wielding jihadis, whose only desire is to kill Americans.

    Unless Americans wake up and realize that a hostile, malevolent foreign power is holding us hostage and using our money and troops to fulfill its fantasy of an Eretz Israel, which would stretch from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates, and from southern Turkey to northern Saudi Arabia, we will continue to see what’s left of our standing on the world stage diminish and our economy slowly implode, due to all those trillions spent to defend Apartheid Israel, while our nation’s infrastructure
    slowly disintegrates into 3rd world status.

    And the graves in our national cemeteries will grow, filled with American troops killed fighting and dying for Apartheid Israel.

    Trump controlled by Mossad – Part IV

    https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2018/05/13/trump-controlled-by-mossad-part-iv/

    • Agree: Moi
  15. gsjackson says:
    @mark green

    On the subject of speech crimes, I’m wondering if a constitutional challenge has been mounted yet against this new South Carolina law criminalizing advocacy of the BDS movement. If such a challenge is unsuccessful, then the free speech clause of the First Amendment — one of the pillars of American democracy — is a dead letter.

    Back in the early ’80s in a civil liberties class in law school I addressed some point about an expansive interpretation of the First Amendment and said it was held by every liberal arts professor at the university, assuming, as I did then, that they were uniformly ACLU type liberals. The professor corrected me: “That’s not true. They’re Marxists and Marcuseans.”

    t took me a while to understand just what he meant, but it is clear now that (((Marxists))) and (((Marcuseans))) are sworn enemies of free speech, and no doubt are even more entrenched decades later in academia and the other propaganda venues.

    And by the way, thanks a heap, South Carolina, for your current contributions to our public life. Is there anybody out there worse than Graham and Haley?

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  16. geokat62 says:

    I had fully expected to be approached by two thugs with badges on arrival, but they didn’t show up. Maybe next time.

    LOL. They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @ChuckOrloski
  17. Jake says:

    The 2 thugs did not make themselves known to you at the airport, but you can rest assured that you are being monitored closely.

  18. Jake says:
    @mark green

    If not for Anglo-Puritanism being a Judaizing heresy, and archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell having made alliance with Jews, inviting them back into England granting them special rights and privileges (doing so specifically to have the money needed to keep warring to destroy non-Anglo-Saxon white Christians and their local cultures), and the British Empire growing from that alliance to spread Judaizing culture around the globe, Jews never could have acquired the cultural and moral control of the US they have. And without the US replacing the UK as the Boss of the Globalist WASP-run, WASP-based Empire, Jews could not have the controls over the world they now do.

    WASP culture was absolutely necessary to getting us here. WASP culture is necessary to keeping this mess of horrors going.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem. They are twined.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @anon
  19. …the United States is no longer interested in cooperating with anyone to reduce the risk of war.

    It’s about time that people begin to understand that concept; the US cacocracy probably never was interested in any of that, and worse, the scum has actively done everything it could to provoke conflict while mouthing platitudes of peaceful intent in public for over a century.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  20. This will include mechanisms to work around American sanctions, to include buying Iranian oil with Euros instead of dollars and selling to Iran in ways that avoid U.S. banks as conduits.

    And this time I think they know what they’re up against. The Nazis were ahead of their time and successfully accomplished something similar, but were crushed by Bolshie supporting nutjobs, mostly based in New Yoik and London.

    I hope, but doubt, that saner brains prevail this time.

    Excellent article, PG. Too bad the trolls flock here with their always mindless mantras but at least their hideous claims, always unsupported by either truth or reason, are presented for all the world to see and we cannot say we didn’t know what unhinged hyenas they always have been.

  21. Z-man says:
    @geokat62

    Sadly I think Giraldi is getting a little too old (and respected) for the Zio dominated American government to harass. I hope Phil has a good line of younger successors to take up the baton and that they have the intestinal fortitude to expect harassment from the controlled government.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Momus
  22. Iranians want to be friends with Americans

    Of course they do.

    Iran (Persia) is a tiny, poor country that’s entirely unable to defend itself from the big boys who have long done everything possible to keep the country backward and under their bootheels. We can now add more than 100 years to Shuster’s claim….

    “Persia has suffered in many ways from the foreigner during
    the past thirty years.”

    W. Morgan Shuster, The Strangling of Persia, 1912, pg 315

    Shuster was the leader of a group of Americans who, at the request of the Persians (Iranians) went there to help modernize the country. After 8 months he and the rest were booted out of Persia by the Russians and Brits.

    Subsequently the “Allies,” three months prior the attack on Pearl Harbor sunk or disabled neutral Iran’s entire navy (of around six “ships” if I remember correctly) in a surprise attack, occupied the country, confiscated the oil resources and refineries, then established the Persian Corridor which was used to ship military supplies to Stalin. The supplies included everything from ammot to locomotives and planes and was enough to supply 60 Soviet divisions.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @L.K
  23. @utu

    On the contrary, Steve and many of his commenters have stressed enabling people to find their own level, instead of vaulting them into positions for which they have no natural aptitude, and are consequently resentful and unhappy.

  24. Another Shuster quote…Let’s see how well the trolls connect the dots.:

    Throughout the entire controversy between the Persian Government and the two Powers [Russia and Britain] there has never been more than a weak pretense that what was being done was to benefit the Persian people. Every utterance and claim has been based on a cynical selfishnessthat shocks all sense of justice. It is in the pursuit of “Russian interests” or “British trade” that innocent people have been slaughtered wholesale. Never a word about the millions of beings whose lives have been jeopardized, whose rights have been trampled underfoot and whose property has been confiscated.

    Not a single line in these smug documents would ever lead one to believe that Persia was a friendly nation whose sovereignty had been actually proclaimed and guaranteed by the two Powers who destroyed it in December, 1911.

    W. Morgan Shuster, The Strangling of Persia, 1912, pg 331.

    Deja vu all over again?

    God bless the people of Iran, and remember how the German people were treated, and how the crimes against them, starvation and humiliation, were repeated.

    • Agree: Iris
  25. Googled New Horizon AND Iran and the link came right up. Useful idiot is right. Imagine! Taking an 8 month-old infant with a diagnosed heart defect to the Gaza fence where it breathed teargas and died, murdered by the Zionists.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  26. America is a colony of Israel and has been under Zionist control for over 100 years starting in 1913 with the creation of the Zionist owned FED and then the Zionists fastened the IRS on Americans to make sure we would pay for the wars that the Zionist bankers had planned for America starting with WWI and on down through the Mideast.

    911 was done by Israel and the zionist controlled deep state in the U.S. and the fact that they got away with proves the zionist total control of America, and 911 was typical of the zionists as that is what they do ie cause wars and destroy countries and societies and they will are destroying America.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Patricus
  27. iffen says:
    @peterAUS

    I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.

  28. Momus says:
    @llloyd

    True.

    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    Sans Hamas, rehabilitation will take a generation.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @Art
  29. Pindos says:
    @Momus

    Yeah, just ask them.

    • LOL: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @Svigor
  30. Anon[452] • Disclaimer says:

    More takkiyah and kitman from Iran-firster Phil G . I would like to see a financial disclosure regarding monies and other good and valuable considerations paid to Phil G from the Iran regime or their contemporaries .

    • Troll: Herald
  31. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus

    Not sure if you are serious or if you are trolling, but if you bring up the JQ in any capacity in the west you will be called an antisemite and be ruined.

  32. anarchyst says:
    @iffen

    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp where everything is controlled by Israel? The “border” that Israel claims, is not a border at all, but is an Israel-imposed “demarcation line”…

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  33. Hamas is a MOSSAD front, and acts as an agent provocateur for Israel to cause acts of aggression to be blamed to be blamed on the Palestinians and to give Israel the excuse to attack Palestine.

    The same agenda is used against Iran and Syria where attacks by Israel on its self by Hamas is used as an excuse to attack Syrian and Iranian forces, similar to Hitler having German troops attacking a German radio station and blaming Poland, typical false flag.

    See Steve Pieczenik Talks.com and Ron Paul and Dr. Alan Sabrosky all of whom have said Hamas is a Mossad front, also see Veteranstoday.com.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @ChuckOrloski
  34. Ockam’s Razor, Israel wants to destabilise any country in the ME that it does not control.
    So only Saudi Arabia can be allowed to exist.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  35. geokat62 says:
    @Z-man

    Sadly I think Giraldi is getting a little too old..:

    Compared to Ray McGovern (born in 1939), Phil (born in 1946) is a young whippersnapper!

  36. Marcus says:
    @peterAUS

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.

    Western Europeans would just let them in

  37. turtle says:

    “has enough bullets for everyone. If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem.”

    As we know, killing is relatively easy.
    However, corpse disposal can be a major problem.
    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.
    Clearly, the facilities are not yet in place to do so.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @anon
    , @Carroll Price
  38. Wally says:
    @Momus

    said:
    “Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?”

    [MORE]

    The fake & impossible ’6,000,000 Jews & gas chambers’ is all about Jew power. In fact that is why it was invented.
    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes. An obvious admission that the storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.

    Revisionist Dr. Faurisson beaten:

    Revisionist Michel Caignet beaten

    Bombing attack on Revisionist Ernst Zundel’s home

    see much more: Jew Terror

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2662/?lang=en

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
  39. Wally says:
    @Jake

    What WASP problem?

    You’re making it up to distract from Jew terror tactics.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Jake
  40. @geokat62

    More so than Elie Wiesel, geokat’s “Memory” intact & wrote: “They were probably still busy roughing up other truth tellers, like Ray Mcgovern, Phil.”

    Hi geo,

    Among tolerant native intellectuals, am grateful for P.G.’s conveyance of findings from Iran.

    You need no reminder, but Phil’s article subtitle is very thoughtful, “Iranians want to be friends with Americans but Israel hates the idea.” I will expand upon his insight a bit.

    Israel wanted all ZUS Senators to be friends with PreZident Trump’s CIA Director-nominee, Gina Haspel. Turned out, the majority were!

    In contrast, Citizen Ray McGovern, with whom I like to consider myself as a vicarious (remote) “friend,” was not chummy with ZUS Jewish Lobbies & Americans like CIA-employee Gina Haspel whose career fast-tracked because of her affinity for institutional torture programs.

    Well, geokat, turns out that when news broke about Mr. McGovern’s awful fate while in attendance at Gina’s limited Senate hearing, my fellow citizen, Thomas L. Friedman, happened to publish a NYT Op-Ed about how ZUS occupies “moral high ground” and China does not. (Zigh)

    I got miffed about another display of secular Jewish hypocrisy, and launched the missive (below) to my hometown, Scranton Times-Tribune.

    Apparently, the newspaper editors are my “friend” and they published my letter, this past Sunday. geokat — Uh, please issue a “Citizen Pardon” for drawing attention to my meager act of unfriendliness to how Friends of Israel love when dissenters get “roughed up” for disobedience.

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune’s corresponding picture, below?

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-theeditor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    Thanks to Phil & all my friends assembled here!

  41. Wally says:
    @animalogic

    Yet as a result, Israel & US ass kissing of “that shitty little country” is now being criticized like never before.
    A very good thing. Hmm.

    BTW, the Munich Agreement was a fair deal for all involved.
    Clearly you have not yet tossed away your Zionist indoctrination.

    http://www.codoh.com

  42. anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:

    would mean a flight from dollars as the world reserve currency. The reduced acceptability of the dollar in turn

    That’s pretty much the real, silent threat to the US in the longer term. The US can do what it wants because it can afford to do so, showering dollars everywhere to get it’s way. It’s backed by oil and the economic, political and military might of the US. The US’s ham-handedness and tendency towards diktat may boomerang on it. Were the dollar to lose it’s reserve status it would shrink it’s economic power far below the current level. War would be the answer to prevent that from happening, against Iran or almost any other country. A country will usually fight to keep from being toppled from it’s preeminent position.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  43. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    I seriously doubt that Iran is still defenseless.
    Things have changed.

    Cheers.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  44. Momus says:
    @Z-man

    He’s a benthos in a tiny oxygen poor ecosystem. No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

  45. Wally says:
    @DESERT FOX

    said:
    “similar to Hitler having German troops attacking a German radio station and blaming Poland, typical false flag.”

    Wrong, very much so, pure propaganda. No one even heard of it until 1945, yet it supposedly happened in 1939.

    see:
    The Gleiwitz “False Flag” Incident is Pure Fiction

    https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction

    and:
    THE MYTH OF THE FAKE GERMAN ATTACK ON THE GLEIWITZ RADIO STATION

    https://www.cwporter.com/gleiwitz.htm

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  46. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus

    How do you say it is “the” driving force by any measure? And is there not a notable trend for the later generations of clever Jewish families that produced able scientists to produce lawyers and bankers instead?

  47. @Anonymouse

    Useful idiot is right.

    The Izzy first crowd should know. They’ve had a lot of experience playing dupe to the money bag gangsters that own, operate and profit from the criminal state of Israel.

    They’re cut from the same bloody, shitty, utopian tissue paper as the Bolshie firsters who were flushed down the sewer when their usefulness ended.

    The Red millionaire “Willi” Mϋnzenberg, Stalin’s propagandist called the process of duping fools, “rabbit-breeding,” but that was before he himself was finished off by Stalin! Ya gotta love it!

    Bon voyage, Bunnies, and godspeed to ya!

  48. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    Your “inconclusive” is rubbish. If you can’t apply as a matter of morality the simple rules which apply to a common law defence to a murder charge of self defence then you ought to switch on your brain and connect it up too to a conscience. Why not wait till someone breaks through the fence and then let him (them) have it with machine guns if you do think serious violence is needed?

  49. @anonymous

    A country will usually fight to keep from being toppled from it’s preeminent position.

    Probably more precisely stated as, “A country’s moronic rulers will usually dupe their subjects to fight to keep from being toppled from their preeminent position.”

  50. @jilles dykstra

    Do you mean “destroy” when you write “destabilise”?. Otherwise your logic is puzzling.

  51. @ChuckOrloski

    Bravo, Chuck!

    …pole-climber Stormy Daniels.

    You mean Stinky Stormy, the pole-climbing polepussycat?

    Stinky for Prez! ;)

  52. @anarchyst

    How do you build a country in an open-air prison camp …

    I wonder if that troll will understand your point. Iran and many other small political entities have always had a tough time trying to maintain themselves, let alone improve themselves, when murderous, treacherous, moneyed goons have always been eager and able to get fools to beat them down.

    • Replies: @iffen
  53. Zumbuddi says:
    @iffen

    Compared to Israel, Hamas and the Palestinia s are on a fast-track.

    Jews started colonizing Palestine at latest by 1910.
    In 1930, the project was still sparse and in danger of financial collspse.

    British sponsorship and protection from 1917 to 1948 provided the security guarantee rich Jews required before investing in the project –ideology is one thing but busi eds is business.
    While under the British security blamket, mansions were built for Chain Weizmann & the Schockens; banking was established and a hospital, and the beginnings of Hebrew University.
    In addition to the British providing security in the period 1917 – 1948, Germans provided organizational, cultural and intellectual talent and expertise as well as an infusion of capital. This carried Israel for a time, but the Talmudist Polish Jews who took over Israel never, in all their history, developed the ability to get along with others, not even other Jews.

    Based on ancient as well as more recent bonds among Iran, Germany, and Jews, Iran served as Israel’s security “pillar” 1948 – 1979, Iran sharing its oil wealth with still-struggling Israel. By the mid-1960s, Jews opened a major artery into the German body politic/money vault and has vampires on that revenue stream ever since.

    Still, and with all these advantages and supports, well into the 1980s, Israel had not achieved cultural cohesion nor economic vigor.

    Only with the injection of Russian brain power, created by Russian taxpayers then subsidized to migrate by American taxpayers — only then did Israel start to develop a sound evonomy. “Startup Nation” is very young and was NOT a home-grown phenomenon; there are serious doubts whether Israel’s education system can equal the capacities migrated in from Germany and Russia.

    Now, what has Hamas accomished, and what infusions of aid, security, brain power have the Palestinians enjoyed?

    Can you, iffen, construct a. one-to-one matching list of gifts and benefits to Palestine that parallels those to Israel?

    Or is the situation quite the reverse, as Paul C Roberts wrote — If Gaza builds a house, Israel destroys it; Gaza raises a child, Israel kills him; Gaza elects a leader, Israel vilified and undermines him.

    All things considered, iffen, for perseverance, for reourcefulness, for character and grace, Palestinians earned fullest accolades.

    Israel is an abject failure,

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Curmudgeon
  54. windwaves says:
    @Momus

    everything mate because everything is dictated by jews or israeli firsters traitors

    • Replies: @MacNucc11
  55. @ChuckOrloski

    What a brilliant letter, Chuck Orloski!

    http://m.thetimes-tribune.com/opinion/letters/letters-to-the-editor-may-20-2018-1.2339270

    You juxtaposed Tom Friedman’s hypocritical allusions to censorship in China with the facts of censorship carried out in the US Senate when armed officers of the Law manhandled to the ground 78-year old Ray McGovern, in order to protect and even promote CIA (((torturer))) Gina Haspel.

    Congratulations, Chuck; very well done.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  56. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @llloyd

    What is the solution? Improve the conditions by removing the blockade except for weaponry. Rehabilitate the inmates until they could actually be let out. Maybe they could then go on a shopping spree in Tel Aviv.

    Thank goodness!!

    I thought I was the only one who noticed all those signs the Palestinians were waving:

    WE JUST WANT TO GO SHOPPING!!

    All we want is a trip to the Mall!!

    Walmart or Bust!

    brought a tear to me eye, it did.

    • Replies: @llloyd
  57. iffen says:
    @anarchyst

    I thought that my comment was very clear. Nation building skills required. Propaganda skills are only one small part.

  58. Zumbuddi says:
    @turtle

    “Liquidation of Gaza . . . would require didposal of 2 000 000 corpses.”

    Another clear indication how much smarter Jews are than anybody else, especially Germans.

    Dumb Germans hauled millions of Jews thousands of miles to specially constructed, equipped and manned facilities to gas then cremate then bury then dig up and cremate again. All they got for their efforts was soap and lampshades. (Who has that many lamps anyway?)

    Jews, on the other hand, shoot ‘em in situ and let the dying bury the dead.
    Spiff Spott.

    • Replies: @iffen
  59. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Refer to my letter & the Times-Tribune’s corresponding picture, below?

    A picture’s worth a thousand words, Chuck… and this picture depicts democracy in action in today’s Weimerica:

    • Replies: @Moi
  60. @DESERT FOX

    DESERT FOX wrote: “See Steve Pieczenik Talks.com and Ron Paul and Dr. Alan Sabrosky all of whom have said Hamas is a Mossad front, also see Veteranstoday.com.”

    Hi DESERT FOX,

    Above, as you know, that to what you & others say is frowned upon by Palestinian Resistance “idealists.”

    However, not so with veteran CIA/Mossad-machination watchers.

    They love the advantage of “plausible deniability.”

    The majority of U.R. commenters are anonymous but for snappy “screen names.” In your case, DESERT FOX, I have no idea what “Front” you fight in.

    But as my comment “Rules of Engagement” lend me to respect your offering, I will lend the following reinforcement to your interesting viewpoint:

    In John Le Carre’s fiction-novel, “The Little Drummer Girl,” one gains insight as to how tricky (deceptive) Mossad-tactics routinely get.

    First though, I offer personal thought that Israel’s “Big Game” target is the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the subsequent shooting of Palestinian protestors is “Small Game,” provocative & always in-season!

    In Le Carre’s “The Little Drummer Girl,” the Chief Mossad officer, Kurtz, with a grin, advised comrades thusly, “You want to catch the lion, first you tether the goat.” *

    As the world knows, the abused “goat” Palestinians are tethered in West Bank and Gaza Strip. And the mighty western Zionist powers, along with perhaps Russia, know that Iran is the “lion” which must be either tamed or killed.

    Thanks, DESERT FOX!

    *F.y.i., In Christopher Bollyn’s book “Solving 9/11,” Le Carre’s novel is discussed and considered very instructive.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  61. iffen says:
    @jacques sheete

    Correction to my correction; you don’t know jack shit.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  62. iffen says:

    Persians? Seriously?

    • Replies: @Anon
  63. Moi says:
    @Momus

    Then how come in so many countries the “acceptable” narrative about the holocaust cannot be challenged without suffering a fine and/or imprisonment?

    • Replies: @Momus
  64. @SolontoCroesus

    Hi SolontoCroesus,

    It’s impolite for me to challenge your brotherly “congratulations,” but I have swum out of the Zionist Jew “Rubicon,” escaped in mind & spirit, and that’s that.

    Cordially, as we here at U.R. Camp comment
    had rallied to support Phil Giraldi after T.A.C. canned him, I suggest we “stick together” and support Ray McGovern.

    Thanks!

  65. Svigor says:

    To be sure, some will say that we were little more than useful idiots, invited to disparage the United States and provide aid and comfort to its enemies

    I am certainly no shill for Iran. I’m not as sympathetic toward Iran as many critics of Israel or pro-Whites are, either. But I just don’t think of Iran as our enemy. Sure, there’s a lot of trash-talk going on between the American and Iranian gov’t. Yes, they’re in opposing camps. But what have the Iranians actually done to us? The whole “enemy of America” thing seems to hinge on the idea that Israel is our greatest ally, which I find to be complete horseshit; their relationship to us is parasitic. The Iranians don’t sponsor al Qaeda or Islamic State, as far as I know; that has been our “allies” (Saudi Arabia and other Sunni states) sin. So what if the Iranians are fighting a proxy war against Israel and Sunni states in Syria or Lebanon? WTF do I care? If the gov’t wants to meddle in that nonsense and get US servicemen killed, that’s their business. It has nothing to do with American interests, as far as I’m concerned.

    If that makes me a “useful idiot,” so be it.

  66. Svigor says:
    @peterAUS

    My criteria for whether the IDF is doing an acceptable job doesn’t exist in a vacuum; for me, it’s about whether the IDF lives up to the standards that Jews hold American Whites to.

    The answer is FUCK NO.

  67. Moi says:
    @geokat62

    I understand quite a lot of our constabulary goes for higher-level training in Israel–and then they bring it home.

  68. Svigor says:
    @Momus

    If by “scientific endeavour” you mean “obfuscating and denying and vilifying the realities of HBD and race, and serially poisoning the well of race relations,” then I concur.

  69. Svigor says:
    @Pindos

    Everyone hates the Jews because they’re so fabulous.

  70. annamaria says:
    @peterAUS

    Giraldi is right: “Israel and its fascistic leader Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.”
    You, peterAUS, cannot refute this succinct statement. Israel has been practicing fascistic policies towards all her neighbors (see Oded Yinon plan).
    There has been also a well-documented collaboration between Israel and ISIS (Al Qaeda). And this is not all: Israel-firsters and ziocons have been collaborating with banderites in Ukraine. Amazingly, neither ADL nor any other nazi-hunting organization raised their voices against Nuland-Kagan, Pyatt, and McCain, these ardent friends and supporters of Ukrainian self-proclaimed neo-Nazi: https://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/us-backing-neo-nazis-ukraine
    – Your posts are good at inviting the readers to ponder on the cynism and amorality of “the most victimized” and the “most moral.”
    The only natural solution to the problem seems to be the giving up on the ethnic exclusivity (supremacism) of the state of Israel and creating a normal modern state where Palestinians would have the same rights as the supposedly Jewish aliya from Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and Brooklyn.

  71. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    No, Persians comically.

  72. Grumbler says:
    @Momus

    Jews pushing for the elimination of free speech more than cancels out whatever good they claim they have accomplished in scientific endeavor.

  73. @Wally

    I stand by what I said, it a fact and no amount of disinformation can change it.

  74. Grumbler says:
    @Momus

    Momus, duped about the entire myth of Jews and their god; wars in the ME that have zero to do with the US being threatened but everything to do with Israel’s lust for the Greater Israel project; the lies being pumped into the culture by the Jewish run media and entertainment; the holocaust; etc, etc, etc…

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  75. @ChuckOrloski

    I am an independent America who sees the gov of the U.S. as captured by the Zionists as far back as 1913 and see our way of life steadily being destroyed by these Zionists via their control of our gov and MSM and MIC and the deep state.

    The PROTOCOLS OF ZION laid out the Zionist plan and they are succeeding on every front and in regards to 911 Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did and got away with it.

    What we have is what Orwell said we would have ie a boot smashing us in the face.

  76. Grumbler says:
    @Momus

    So if the elites do not care for the truth then no one else should care either?

  77. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I knew this would warm your cockles. ;) Let’s hope there’s a bootlegged record of the proceedings, because it seems links are suppressed. [Searching anything newhorizons.ir gets "website unavailable" notice. Also, "6th International Conference of Independent Thinkers and Artists" gets very limited results.]

    Any success with alternative search engines? I was looking for a list of speakers, at least. (Do you recognize the guys sitting with Phil? They look familiar.)

    This is a notorious conference. In 2014, Gareth Porter famously expressed regret for attending, citing the presence of anti-Semitic 911 truthers. “The Anti-Defamation League loudly attacked the conference for focusing on Zionist control of western media and the outsize influence of the Zionist Lobby in the US and around the world.”

    https://dissidentvoice.org/2014/10/new-horizon-conference-meeting-of-minds-in-tehran/

    • Replies: @tac
  78. peterAUS says:
    @iffen

    Agree.

    Looking at just those 3 videos it’s obvious that they’ve learnt that art well.
    It’s the same method, actually, used by “progs” all over the world.

    It’s almost fascinating to see Israelis, Jews, of all people on defensive here.
    Cynic would say that the inventors and masters are getting out mastered, or karma is a bitch.

    At the same time, well, Israelis don’t budge here as most of the rest and that’s also interesting to see.
    I am positive that a lot of people on the “state side” watching this, anywhere in the world can’t help but envying Israelis on the ground there. “If only I could do that, just for one day….”.

    I try (or so I say) to constantly switch positions when thinking about all that, trying to find a solution to all that. Nothing……..

    Immovable object and unstoppable force.

    This could get worse.
    Feels as an experiment.

    • Replies: @deschutes
  79. @iffen

    … you don’t know jack shit.

    True, but at least I know that and am working on it. You, on the other hand…

    • Replies: @L.K
  80. @Grumbler

    Momus, duped about the entire myth…

    That one fancies itself some great satirist but it’s truly gormless.

  81. Incitatus says:
    @Momus

    “Jewish intellectual power is the driving force for scientific endeavour in the west…”

    Don’t forget proof: the Cherry Tomato. Mankind is in awe.

  82. @Wally

    I seriously doubt that Iran is still defenseless.
    Things have changed.

    Cheers.

    Cheers to you , sir!

    Now, if you’d elaborate and substantiate…

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Carroll Price
  83. @Momus

    No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

    Mo-muss doesn’t care, blah blah blah…therefore mo-muss admits she’s no one who matters.

    PS: We already knew that.

  84. Sam Shama says:

    I heard over and over again expressions of that fact from ordinary people and sophisticates alike. They would love to have a good relationship and an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.

    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @anonymous
  85. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hey Jacques,

    Yes, Iran has been suffering at the hands of the major imperialist powers for a long time, 150 years easy…

    I only disagree that Iran is a tiny and defenseless country; it is a large country with a large population(now) and it is far from defenseless… which, in the 1940s, it obviously was, of course. The Brits and Soviets invaded Iran in August 1941 & quickly overran Iran’s tiny forces.

    Also, despite all the sanctions since the 1979 revolution, Iran has modernized itself, this was admitted recently even by that neocon rag, the Economist.

    As Lebanese journalist Sharmine Narwani, who writes for TAC(for how long?), tweeted:‏

    In ONE year (2015), #Iran moved up 6 places in the Human Devt Index (HDI) – according to UNDP “one of the highest increases for any country in the past 8 years.” Btwn 1980-2012, Iran averaged double the global growth rate. The Revolution, in a nutshell.

    I’m confident the new criminal ZUS sanctions against Iran, which constitute acts of war if you think about it, will fail again… maybe it’ll even help get the Rouhani’s neoliberals out… these people are damaging and undermining Iran.

  86. Charlie says:

    Amazing the difference between Giraldi’s article here and Peter Van Buren’s story on Reuters-

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vanburen-iran-commentary/commentary-i-just-visited-iran-heres-what-i-heard-about-the-u-s-idUSKCN1IM1EG

    Van Buren says JCPOA and the embassy move were tracked closely in Iran but apparently mentioning the killings in Gaza ist verboten at Reuters. Van Buren can do better than this.

  87. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Jacques,

    In case you missed it, great article by Dr. Sniegoski a while back, about Iran as a victim of British, Russian/Soviet & Zamerican imperialism…

    https://alethonews.com/2013/11/10/iran-as-a-twentieth-century-victim-1900-through-the-aftermath-of-world-war-ii/

    Iran as a Twentieth Century Victim: 1900 Through the Aftermath of World War II

    During the nineteenth century, Russia and Britain competed for power and influence in Central Asia, in what was known as the Great Game. Needless to say, it was neither great nor a game for those countries, such as Iran, which were treated like pawns on a chessboard by the two great powers. By the turn of the twentieth century, Russia had come to dominate the northern part of Iran while Britain dominated the south. The two powers formalized this division in the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907, which segmented Iran into three parts—a Russian zone in the north, in which Russia was to have exclusive political and economic control; a British zone in the southeast, in which Britain had the sole right to exercise political and economic control; and a neutral “buffer” zone in the rest of the country, in which both the British and the Russians shared power. …

    …With the dramatic rise in power of Germany in Europe, which was also starting to penetrate Central Asia, Britain and Russia realized that it was necessary if not to completely put away their rivalry, then at least to lessen tensions. This development, however, did not bode well for Iranian sovereignty since the formal division made it appear that the imperial control would be lasting.

    This foreign domination essentially meant that the resources of Iran were under the control of the two imperial powers and that the purpose of whatever economic development took place was primarily for the benefit of those powers and not the Iranian state or people. …

  88. Incitatus says:

    “I have to say that Hamas gets a check mark from me for a very effective propaganda operation. If only they were as good at nation building as they are at propaganda.”

    Agree. But that’s the only card Hamas has to play. No ‘nation’ will be permitted by Likud. It would mean their (Likud) downfall.

    Sometimes enemies are more useful as enemies.

    • Replies: @iffen
  89. Momus says:
    @Wally

    Benthos Wally. Holocaust denial is not revisionist history – it is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: often the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems.

    Denial law certainly doesn’t stop you or me discussing contemporary events and personalities involving Jews or the Jewish state.

    Holocaust denial laws serves a social function analogous to the controls societies place on people with serious communicable diseases. Ebola or typhus patients on the loose; not good for order.

    The other point is that in law, in my country and in the US the Holocaust is covered by the rule of Judicial notice.

    Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    You and other Bradley Smith acolytes can continue to suck on the bones of the fallen whale in you dark but don’t think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

  90. lavoisier says: • Website
    @gsjackson

    And by the way, thanks a heap, South Carolina, for your current contributions to our public life. Is there anybody out there worse than Graham and Haley?

    McCain.

    But the other two are pretty awful.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  91. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hey Jacques,

    I ain’t Wally, but, just briefly, I’ll give it a go;

    First, common sense; if Iran was defenseless, it would have already long been attacked by the ZUSA coward, which loves a war with those who cannot fight back…

    But the Pentagon has gamed an attack on Iran many times, and the chances of failure were high for the zamericans…

    Iran, if attacked , will not fight on zamerican terms. I’d say, imagine Hezbollah on steroids.
    The Saker is correct on this issue.
    A good article about the orange bozo’s new campaign against Iran;

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/trumps-new-campaign-against-iran-will-not-achieve-its-aims.html

    Regards

  92. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    Right. The onus is on the Iranian clergy… they’re the ones standing in the way of a bright future, not the Zionists. I get it, I get it… if only the Iranian people embraced regime change, business would flourish. They are being offered the same deal that was offered to Musharraf‘s Pakistan: if you don’t choose wisely, you’ll be bombed back to the Stone Age. Why can’t these dumb Mullah’s get it? Business is king!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  93. @peterAUS

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.

    Sitting here, trying my hardest to imagine what it would be like to have this happening on my border, yet somehow all I can seem to do is imagine myself as the Palestinian in such a scenario. Screaming at invaders who used a contract with a foreign government to invade, slaughter and replace my people with their preferred demographics, and then proceeded to continue slaughtering, displacing and robbing my people of everything they have ever known for the next 70 years while simultaneously screeching about their ‘right’ to defend themselves against us.

    That about sum it up for you, ZioNazi? You don’t get to do the invading and the killing and then cry victim when your victims of 70+ years now decide to do something other than quietly accept their genocide.

    That border you speak of, it’s PALESTINE’S border. Not Israel’s. That Balfour Declaration of 1917 by which Israel was created, was a declaration of a war of aggression wherein Jews and Brits stole occupied land and claimed it as their own. Then they built an 80% ATHEISTIC nation on the land and cited their land lord of a god as justification for their actions.

    The illegitimate Rothschild terror state of Israel has no right to exist.

    • Agree: L.K, deschutes, Kolo
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @deschutes
  94. @peterAUS

    It doesn’t happen at US borders, and it doesn’t happen at EU or UK borders. You’re not being controversial. You’re being wrong.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Carroll Price
  95. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    I think we should have a great relationship with Iranians, starting with cultural exchanges. If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    Ain’t that exactly what one would expect a Jewy Jew would say:

    First, sell your children’s soul to the Jewish devil of perversion, depravity, violence and hate, then turn over your economy to the money changers.

    Shama the Jewy Jew pasted Giraldi’s wisely conditional statement, but she didn’t incorporate it into her thinking process:

    . . . an American Embassy run by proper diplomats who are willing to talk and listen.

    The way the USA represents itself to the world cannot be called diplomacy.

    Thuggery, maybe.

    Pompeo a diplomat?

    Bolton, Haley, Feltman, Nuland the Kaganite, Robert Ford, Ryan Crocker, David Satterfield — not one among them who, if he/she took rooms in a hotel in Tehran, that space would have to be fumigated upon conclusion of visit. USA has not been represented by a person of statesman-calibre since William Morgan Shuster.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Sam Shama
  96. @L.K

    LK, thanks for that. Sniegoski is tops too, and I agree with all you posted. Intend to check the link.

    Bottom line, Iran (Persia) has been a target for imperial ambitions for a long time. I don’t know how those folks keep going, but then the middle class here has been under siege since the beginning, too.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  97. @Momus

    Jews make movies, call it history, then send out mama’s boys to pretty it up with Talmudic phrases.

    Instead of cleaning up turds, Jews mount a PR campaign and sell them.

    Total Rubbish: Why is Israel so Filthy?

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/MAGAZINE-total-rubbish-why-is-israel-so-filthy-1.6006920

  98. chris says:
    @Momus

    No one who matters cares what he thinks, does or says.

    errr, but why do you then, Einsteen ? Your self-deprecation is very understated.

  99. @jacques sheete

    ain’t Wally, but, just briefly, I’ll give it a go;

    First, common sense; if Iran was defenseless, it would have already long been attacked

    Who knows? Remember, we’re dealing with crackpots in positions of power, so anything is possible.

    Iran seems to make a fairly decent bogeyman and if they get destroyed, that’s one less “threat” for the asses in power to play with.

    Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. Wars are no longer waged by the will of superior men, capable of judging dispassionately and intelligently the causes behind them and the effects flowing out of them. They are now begun by first throwing a mob into a panic; they are ended only when it has spent its ferine fury. Here the effect of civilization has been to reduce the noblest of the arts, once the repository of an exalted etiquette and the chosen avocation of the very best men of the race, to the level of a riot of peasants. are now disgusting and degrading; the conduct of them has passed out of the hands of nobles and knights and into the hands of mob-orators, moneylenders, and atrocity-mongers.

    -H.L. Mencken, In Defense of Women, p27, (1918)

    http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/files/indefwom.pdf

    PS: I think you meant “good sense,” not common sense. Good sense is not common.

    PPS: I think we could add, all the wars of Zionism, are now disgusting and degrading…

    PPPS: Iran has been attacked, or more accurately under attack in various ways, for the better part of the last century.

  100. Jake says:
    @Wally

    Which is exactly what a smart Jew, or person directed by smart Jews, would say to deflect from the partnership. We have what we have because of the natural, inevitable flow of culture from the Anglo-Saxon Puritan Judaizing heresy. We have what we have precisely because of Oliver Cromwell making alliance with Jews, and doing it specifically to wage war on non-WASP white Christians.

    Nothing has changed since then, save that in recent decades it has become clear than the once junior partner, banking partner, Jews have supplanted the WASPs as acting senior partner in the alliance. But the WASP-Jewish alliance remains, and it acts always to further destroy whatever is left of historic Christendom and its peoples. The British Empire took the WASP-Jewish alliance around the globe and forced millions upon millions to bow before it. The Yanks took over running the worldwide WASP-Jewish alliance and are now even more insistent that the whole world bow to it.

    Without the WASP problem, there would be no Jewish problem that could not be handled locally and rather easily.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  101. @anonymous

    To the Maven Sam Shama, & in dismay, anonymous # 107 inquired: “Pompeo a diplomat?”

    Hi # 107,

    He knows, but the Maven will never explain (to dumb goyim) exactly what kind of “diplomat” is ZUS Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo.

    Pompeo is an Ace Khazarian mafia-diplomat, and one can evaluate current evidence which demonstrates how he’s given the Islamic Republic of Iran’s theocracy an “offer they can’t (better not!) refuse.

    Thanks, 107!

  102. Them Guys says:
    @Momus

    Another Glue Sniffing Zio Hasbarat Clown eh.

  103. @L.K

    I read it, it’s excellent, and I give the author an A+. I have nothing to add or correct, and I am happy that he emphasized the fact that after the Brits and Soviets gave the American mission the boot, Iran sought support from the Germans, and the Germans complied in a respectable manner.

    He also did a good job of summarizing while emphasizing the meddling of the Bolshies and the USSR.

    It’s a good supplement to PG’s excellent article and I call it a “must read” for all the “experts” who get their info from mass (dufus) media.

    Note: It’s less than 9000 words long and an easy read.

    • Replies: @L.K
  104. L.K says:
    @forgottenpseudonym

    forgottenpseudonym to Troll peterAus:

    It doesn’t happen at US borders, and it doesn’t happen at EU or UK borders.

    Indeed it does not. In fact the largely Zionist controlled media would be all over it IF it did.
    Troll peterAus is just merely using this as a tactical device to entice the more sanguine anti-immigration types into his completely false analogy.
    As RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965 pointed out, the Palestinians locked up in Gaza are the indigenous population of Palestine, mostly they are refugees from zionist ethnic cleansing that took place in 48.
    IOW, it is the Jews who were the invading immigrants, the foreign elements invading Palestine, and, unlikely those immigrants who are let into North Zamerica or Europe, they rapidly armed themselves up and violently expelled the indigenous Palestinian majority.
    Also worth pointing out that the Hungarian government protected its borders without massacring anybody.

    forgottenpseudonym to Troll peterAus: “You’re not being controversial. You’re being wrong.”

    Of course, but what peterAus really is, is a COWARD & a liar, which are the hallmarks of this warmongering hasbaraRat shill and keyboard commando.

  105. @Momus

    …but don’t think your views have any currency with the vast majority.

    So what?

  106. @geokat62

    If the Iranian clergy only saw their way clear to do this, business partnerships would follow naturally.

    He wrote that?

    No surprise there because we all should know by now that it’s “natural,” these days to do “business” at the point of a gun. (Same as the old days and there are numerous examples.)

    We dumb goyim can be fooled some of the time…

  107. Momus says:
    @Moi

    A lot of it has to do with keeping public order. The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.

    • Troll: Che Guava
  108. Art says:
    @peterAUS

    More I watch all that more I feel that IDF is, actually, doing an acceptable job, overall, there.

    How stupid!

    I feel sorry for AUS – they have a peter on display, with a very small brain that can only process one picture at a time. He is incapable of seeing the whole picture, of 70 years of Jew rule over the Palestinians. Stupid peter has zero empathy for the beleaguered people of Gaza.

    peter is not much of a man – a real man feels the just anger that boys and young men naturally feel toward the oppressors of their families. People that have it all together empathize with the Palestinians – not the mean Jews.

    Why are all the Jew lovers so inhuman? They are never nice. They are always haughty and arrogant. They think meanness is smart.

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

    p.s. peterAUS and Jews – birds of a feather.

  109. Sam Shama says:
    @anonymous

    Evidently, you are quite upset, apoplectic even. I have many Iranian friends in the US, successful entrepreneurs most of them, and almost to a man, they agree the time is high for a renaissance in US-Iran cultural and commercial partnerships. They also despise the mullahs.

    I fail to understand what your objections are. [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]

    Qorban-e shoma berem

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @L.K
  110. @Momus

    Let me guess –

    Your girlfriend just finished first year law school. You got drunk together to celebrate, and over barf episodes and beer-breathe, she mentioned the term “judicial notice” and tried to explain it.

    Some cretins (benthos?) at the bar smashed some glasses & the gendarme was summoned — causing your pickled brain to associate “public order” with “judicial notice.”

    In a Freudian confession punctuated with burps, you revealed to your girlie-girl that you just weren’t making the cut on your hasbara team; your retorts were tinny and unimaginative. Bosswoman said your commentary was “something your average Episcopalian might produce.” The Episcopalian slur really got to you.

    In a rare moment of sobriety, girlie-girl, all excited, said, Momus mami, here’s the solution: Judicial notice!
    Introduce this concept to your squad! It’s genius! It’ll catch-on like the clap, your boss will invite you over for shabbat, you’ll get a raise and you can pay for my next abortion! Oh mami I love you!

    And so it came to pass: mami Momus took Judicial Notice for a test-drive on Unz while her girlfriend got a refill on her clindamycin.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
    Judicial notice is not a simplistic process;

    The court may judicially notice a fact that is not subject to reasonable dispute because it:
    (1) is generally known within the trial court’s territorial jurisdiction; or
    (2) can be accurately and readily determined from sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.

    (c) Taking Notice. The court:
    (1) may take judicial notice on its own; or
    (2) must take judicial notice if a party requests it and the court is supplied with the necessary information.

    . . .

    The usual method of establishing adjudicative facts in through the introduction of evidence, ordinarily consisting of the testimony of witnesses. If particular facts are outside of reasonable controversy, this process is dispensed with as unnecessary. A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_201

    In other words, one cannot drop the Judicial Notice bomb the way IDF drops Palestinian babies; the facts sought to be put on notice must be outside reasonable controversy and have a high degree of indisputability.

    The very fact that certain historical claims are maintained as facts under systems of duress, punishment, censorship and criminalization shrieks to high heaven that those “facts” do not enjoy a “high degree of indisputability.”

    Back to the drawing board for you, Momus mami, and to vinegar douches for your אהובה

  111. KenH says:

    It’s time to normalize relations with Iran and give Israel the one finger salute. We should lift sanctions on doing business with Iran while freezing all foreign aid we provide Israel. We should end all foreign aid since it’s just a bribery racket anyway although in Israel’s case their powerful domestic lobby is extorting the money.

    Iran’s domestic issues are none of our business just like ours is none of theirs and is between the Iranian government and their people to sort out. Sorry deplorables, but “America First” was just a catchy campaign slogan. We flyover rubes always fall for that stuff.

    We never bothered to ask if Trump meant it literally or as Charles Lindbergh did. Instead we’re getting whatever Sheldon Adelson and Bibi demand and if you protest you’re a wicked anti-semite and un-American.

  112. The reduced acceptability of the dollar in turn would mean that the Federal Reserve will be unable to continue to print fiat money to support U.S. interventions, with severe repercussions for the American economy.

    This American welcomes “severe repercussions for the American economy” if it means the death of the Anglo/Zio Empire. When you are being over run it is permissible to call for air support/artillery on your own position.

  113. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    [btw how do you know I am Jewish? Have we met or exchanged pleasantries?]

    ummm.

    hmm.

    [scratching head]

    [btw how do you know I am Jewish? ]

    Oooo

    ah, yes!

    Archives!!

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Sam+Shama

    Ron Unz, what a guy! Thought of everything!

    sheesh

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  114. Laugh.

    i don’t know about friendship. Those shouts about “death to america” are troubling. And its high time they take responsibility for coups conducted by their own citizens. They sound like democrats and Russian collusion.

    However, I see n o reason to go about attempting regime change in the region or violating the deal we have agreed to without evidence , especially evidence from disinterested parties, to bail on the installed agreement.

  115. Them Guys says:
    @Momus

    Momma, don’t let yer babies grow up to be….Jewdeo-Glue-Sniffer’s!

  116. peterAUS says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    …yet somehow all I can seem to do is imagine myself as the Palestinian in such a scenario.

    Could be. Depends on who you are and how long you’ve been in Europe.

    I just have a feeling that a lot of people in countries along that …highway….from Greece to Germany can, with ease, imagine the opposite.
    Native to those lands that is.

  117. L.K says:
    @Sam Shama

    sam shameless, the Zionist microbe: “Evidently, you are quite upset, blah, blah, blah….”

    Anonymous[107]‘s reply to your usual BS/obfuscation was spot on and drove you “apoplectic”.
    :-P

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  118. peterAUS says:
    @Jake

    ….in recent decades it has become clear than the once junior partner, banking partner, Jews have supplanted the WASPs as acting senior partner in the alliance.

    Does look that way.

    Personally, still, not quite sure about it.

    Not saying “disagree”, just “not sure”.

  119. L.K says:
    @Momus

    momus, zionist hasbaraRat and unintentional clown goes:
    “The facts of the holocaust are judicial notice. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.”

    pffffhHAHAHHAHAHAHA … thanks for the laugh, liar.

    Well, since you keep lying about this thread after thread, I’ll keep reminding you of the truth.
    Several of the most important holohoax historians have admitted, discreetly & grudgingly, that evidence to support the official holohoax atrocity propaganda is very much lacking.

    ..already in 1951, the Jew Léon Poliakov, who had been part of the French delegation at the Nuremberg show trials (1945-1946), stated his conclusion that we had at our disposal an overabundance of documents for all points of the history of the Third Reich, with the exception of one point alone: the “campaign to exterminate the Jews”. For this, he wrote, “No document remains, perhaps none has ever existed” (Bréviaire de la haine, Paris, Calmann-Lévy, 1974 [1951], p. 171; English version: Harvest of Hate, New York, Holocaust Library, 1979, revised and expanded edition)

    It is not just documentary evidence that is missing.. . it is also the material evidence which should be abundant, but in fact does not exist. For example:
    During an interview to the Canadian STAR, 27 December 2009, prominent Jewish holohoax “historian” and Auschwitz ‘expert’, Robert Jan van Pelt, stated:

    We have no material or forensic evidence to support eyewitness reports of gassings…
    Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove

    Comparing the “evidence” for the official tales re Auschwitz to the AR camps, the same van Pelt, in his ‘The Case for Auschwitz: Evidence from the Irving Trial’, p.5, writes:

    “The evidence for the role of Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor[...] is much less abundant(than Auschwitz).”There are very few eyewitnesses, no confession that can compare to that given by Höss, no significant remains, and few archival sources.

    So, the evidence for Auschwitz is next to nothing – plus there is abundant evidence refuting the atrocity propaganda – but the evidence for the Aktion Reinhardt camps is, according to Pelt himself, even much less than at Auschwitz, which is just about zero. Concerning the ‘confessions’ of Höss though, another famous holohoax “historian”, the miserable shabbos goy, Christopher Browning, in his ‘The Origins of the Final Solution: The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy’, September 1939-March 1942 (University of Nebraska Press and Yad Vashem :-) , 2004), p.544 note.169, writes:“…the testimonies of especially Höss and to some extent Eichmann are confused, contradictory, self-serving, and not credible.”

    The above are but just a few examples… and that, shill, is the reason for all the censorship around the holohoax, the most taboo subject of all.

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  120. RobinG says:
    @L.K

    Question for Phil…..

    What do you know about the assertion that US/UK, (CIA, along with MI6, et al), not only installed the Shah in 1953, but, finding him no longer suitable, facilitated his removal in 1978-79?

    There was some discussion of this in comments at Mike Whitmey’s “Did Trump Scrap the Nuke’s Deal to Pay Back His Pro-Israel Campaign Donors?”

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @L.K
  121. The Christian religion thrived even as the Romans took desperate measures to try and suppress it. Why is it that a religion, when faced with tyrannical oppression, is still able to increase its following? In Vietnam, despite huge body counts the population of Vietnam stayed constant. This should create fear in the hearts of all nations with Muslim minorities. The flip side of this is, what has it done or will continue to do to the Total fertility rate in Israel? How many Israeli couples want to raise children, especially boys who may become snipers and man the 500 checkpoints scattered throughout the West Bank and Jerusalem or man the security patrol in every part of the country? Don’t even ask how Israel can finance all this security without American foreign aid?
    During our Sunday’s church service, the congregation asked for prayer for people who had been flooded out by spring snowmelt or those in the shadows of Kilauea on the big island. After my good wife tried but failed to dissuade me I took the bold step of publicly stating that snipers shooting into crowds of Palestinians may not be a good way to bring people to Christ. This is definitely not the type of thing that makes me want to stand up for Jesus or make Jews proud of their heritage. Amongst good Christians, it is widely believed that the chosen people hold the key to the second coming and any criticism of Israel will cause you to be driven from the congregation and go straight to hell. The hell part I’m not sure about but I am the largest contributor, in the church so that may buy me some forgiveness.
    In church, the events in the Middle East are always given as proof that the second coming is imminent and he will save his chosen people. In the good book, it is written that no one knows the hour or day and that Christ will arrival like a thief in the night. This is all well and good but Christians claim the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb and its’ invention may not have been a bad thing.
    So how is this Middle East conflict going to end?
    Snipers’ firing into crowds of innocent people is definitely not a good way to achieve reconciliation.
    Plan A. the most commonly accepted is the second coming.
    Plan B. America and Israel versus the world is an expensive stalemate. The two or three very wealthy Jewish political contributors who are able to purchase America’s unconditional support of Israel are approaching the end of their life expectancy. The cost of this military intervention keeps rising and threatens to alienate our allies and bankrupting the nation. This plan will continue to create very large piles of corpses.
    My scenario or Plan C. is that the Birth rate of Israelis and emigration out of Israel by its’ best minds will continue; while Christianity continues to fall out of vogue here at home. Palestinians will be in a better negotiating position and the Israelis will have to bargain in good faith. This appears to be the only way out for everyone. Both groups need each other and nobody is going anywhere.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @ANON
  122. Patricus says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Desert Fox, it would be too complimentary to call you a Jew hater. You are self deluded.

    Israel doesn’t control the US. Jews are 1.7% of the country and shrinking. Those serving as elected representatives have to win their votes from a majority of non Jews. Are all these gentiles willing stooges of the Zionists?

    It is amazing the Jews of 100 years ago were able to anticipate future wars so precisely. Sad to say, our foolish middle eastern wars were designed and implemented by gentiles.

    All knowing and all seeing Jews have ruined your wretched life? Try getting a girlfriend and a job. As a white man I am ashamed to see a fellow white man crawl (maybe you are an aborigine). Dislike Jews if you must but stop giving them imaginary super powers. You need psychological help.

    Plenty of Jews died on 911. They are overrepresented in New York.

  123. Art says:
    @Momus

    Their Hamas leaders are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    What dishonesty!

    Jews are the jailers, oppressors and torturers.

    It is amazing what little respect the Jews have for truth and reality. They insult us.

    Getting in people’s face and forcing an obvious lying on them – is major stupid – but all the Jews do it (95%).

    There are 7,000,000,000 people who do not believe this guy (voted at the UN).

    A Jew by culture is a greedy dishonest jerk – only when he acts in a Western manner does he achieve success.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

    • Replies: @L.K
  124. Che Guava says:
    @Momus

    The way you are mis- and over-using ‘benthos’ is pretty funny,

    You cute little benthic basement-dwelling gronk, so adorable.

  125. RobinG says:

    Letter from Iran: Mr. Trump, you have been served http://www.atimes.com/article/letter-from-iran-mr-trump-you-have-been-served/ Pepe Escobar:

    In a letter addressed to President Donald Trump, with copies to the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the UN Security Council, four top former officials at the highest level of the US government have given him legal notice about his duty to advise the US Congress, the ICC and the UNSC, among others, about Israel’s actions coinciding with the “70th anniversary of the expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians from their homes.”

    The letter is signed, among others, by former CIA operations officer Phil Giraldi; former Pentagon official Michael Maloof; former US Army officer and State Department coordinator for counterterrorism contractor Scott Bennett; and former diplomat and author of Visas For al-Qaeda: CIA Handouts That Rocked The World, Michael Springmann.

    “…the letter was written by Giraldi and Maloof at an airport lounge as they were waiting for a flight from Mashhad to Tehran …”

  126. @RobinG

    So RobinG has a “Question for Phil…..”

    Hi RobinG,

    Why petition P.G. for that?!!

    With his usual Christian-Zionist spin, I predict even iffen can answer that one.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @iffen
  127. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hey Jacques,

    Glad you enjoyed it, that article( and Sniegoski’s excellent book transparent cabal) deserve a wider audience.

    Btw, Pepe Escobar of Asia Times conducted an eye opening interview in Iran.

    Ahmad Bahmani is the Europe and Americas adviser to Ali Akbar Velayati, who happens to be the top foreign policy adviser to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. So what Bahmani says comes from the highest levels of the Iranian government.

    Bahmani received Asia Times for an exclusive exchange of ideas in an unassuming office in Tehran.

    http://www.atimes.com/article/tehran-eyes-path-ahead-after-us-withdrawal-from-nuclear-pact/

    Key topics/highlights of the interview

    On the New World Order
    On Barjam (how the JCPOA is referred to in Iran)
    On Iranian psychology
    On Iranian resilience
    On regional alliances
    On the near future
    On Israel
    On Israel’s bombing of the T4 base in Syria

    Cheers

  128. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Great post!!!

  129. L.K says:
    @RobinG

    The part about the CIA/MI6 1953 coup is by now backed by declassified documents…

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/20/64-years-later-cia-finally-releases-details-of-iranian-coup-iran-tehran-oil/

    64 Years Later, CIA Finally Releases Details of Iranian Coup

    On August 19, 1953, democratically-elected Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh was overthrown in a coup orchestrated by the CIA and British intelligence, after having nationalized the oil industry.

    Declassified documents released last week shed light on the Central Intelligence Agency’s central role in the 1953 coup that brought down Iranian Prime Minister Muhammad Mossadegh, fueling a surge of nationalism which culminated in the 1979 Iranian Revolution and poisoning U.S.-Iran relations into the 21st century.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
  130. @George Jansen

    ” . . . but Christians claim the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. ”

    No, The scriptural reference is in the contained context of christ’s admonitions of end times.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24&version=NIV

  131. L.K says:
    @Art

    Yep.

    Israeli dissident Gilad Atzmon has just written a new piece after the Gaza massacre. In it he states:

    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018/5/19/onaccountability-in-the-light-of-israeli-brutality

    I remain firmly behind those words that upset Mr. Adlington “…maybe the time is ripe for Jewish and Zionist organisations to draw the real and most important lesson from the Holocaust. Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.” http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/holocaust-day-the-time-is-ripe-for-a-jewish-apology.html

    • Replies: @anon
    , @sarz
  132. annamaria says:
    @Momus

    “… the face of racist propaganda and a cause of serious social problems..”
    – Poor Momus. It is so yesterday to be upset about “racist propaganda” when the leading US ziocons have been the leading supporters and promoters of neo-Nazis. Tell the Kagans’ clan that “Holocaust denial is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory”. The Kagans are the true makers of history in Ukraine where it is OK (after the Nuland-led regime change in 2014) to desecrate Jewish cemeteries and abuse WWII veterans.
    The louder you bloviate about holocaust biz, the greater is the cognitive dissonance between the Zionists’ “righteous” suppression of the freedom of speech and their actual promoting, strengthening, and supporting the neo-fascist movement in Ukraine.
    Momus writes, “Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted.” — Thank you. The insulting activities of ziocons towards the memory of victims of the WWII in Ukraine, Poland, Russia, and the Baltic States are so notorious and well known, that the whole ziocon cabal must be investigated for the promoting the neo-Nazism and banderism.
    The ziocon-initiated neo-Nazi renaissance has been spilling to Poland: “Ukrainian nationalists stand behind desecration of Jewish cemetery:” https://www.reddit.com/r/antisemitism/comments/5npnj5/ukrainian_nationalists_stand_behind_desecration/
    “Jewish Cemetery Vandalized in Ukraine Town ‘Cleansed’ by the Nazis of Its Jews:” https://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/3762941/jewish/Jewish-Cemetery-Vandalized-in-Ukraine-Town-Cleansed-by-the-Nazis-of-Its-Jews.htm
    “Nazi Desecration of Monument at Babyn Yar:” https://ukrainesolidaritycampaign.org/2014/11/19/nazi-desecration-of-monument-at-babyn-yar/
    “In a 72-page document published by the Israeli Ministry for Diaspora Affairs, Ukraine was named as the leading country of the post-Soviet space, in terms of a number of verbal attacks and violent actions against Jews, their property, shrines and community institutions.” https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/01/israel-announces-ukraine-as-most-anti/

  133. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    Sometimes enemies are more useful as enemies.

    I guess I could compliment Israel for doing their part, but I don’t see a lot of options available to them.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  134. anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:

    The average Iranian IQ is 84. Most of the population of Asiatic stock. They are Muslims. There is nothing in Iran for us.

    • Troll: Mike P
  135. ANON[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @George Jansen

    Amongst good Christians, it is widely believed that the chosen people hold the key to the second coming and any criticism of Israel will cause you to be driven from the congregation and go straight to hell. . . .
    In church, the events in the Middle East are always given as proof that the second coming is imminent and he will save his chosen people. In the good book, it is written that no one knows the hour or day and that Christ will arrival like a thief in the night. . . . the Bible also states that the second coming will be during a time of Nations rising against nation, wars and rumors of war and so on. .

    WTF is “good” or “Christian” about that pile of irrational pseudo-spiritual mumbo-jumbo? Did you ever think about it under a cold, harsh light of logic?

    What is so important or significant about a “second coming?”
    Second coming of What, exactly? An orgasm? Santa Claus? JFK?

    What? Who?
    What’s going to happen on the Second coming event that is so important, so significant that it’s worth killing hundreds of millions of people, stealing their homes and futures?

    Are you even going to be around for it?
    Let’s say you’re 45 years old.
    The Second Coming not having occurred in the last 2000 years, give or take, the odds are you are going to be dead before The Event for which you have been “the biggest contributor” occurs.
    Sheldon Adelson smiles.
    All your contributions down his gold-plated toilet into his IDF-armored vault.
    The House always wins.
    Sucker.

    It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb and its’ invention may not have been a bad thing

    More “good Christian” learning, George Jensen?
    Do the people who were incinerated by “the bomb” share your sentiment?
    Have you ever spent a moment — in good Christian prayer, of course — considering that killing people in huge numbers is not something Jesus spent a lot of time advocating?

    “It’s easy to forget that we have not had a war between two major power since the invention of the bomb”

    We haven’t had a war that started on Tuesday, Dec. 8, 1941 either. What does that prove?

    Do “good Christians” believe that “wars between major powers” kill fewer people than wars in which a major power bombs the hell out of a country that cannot proportionally defend itself?

    What criteria do “good Christians” apply to a war in which only one power is a major power?

    It’s easy to forget because
    a. Americans — “good Christians” — have almost never been on the dying end of those wars or those bombs;
    b. we’ve cleverly exonerated ourselves from culpability for crimes against humanity on a hitherto unimagined scale in those wars that were “between two major powers,”
    c.

    its’ invention may not have been a bad thing

    If that’s the case, George Jensen, and if that’s what “good Christians” believe, that “the invention of the bomb may not have been a bad thing,” then more nations should have bombs, thereby expanding the distribution of things that are “not bad.”

    Right?

    I am the largest contributor, in the church

    why in the world do you support such mind-numbing, soul-shriveling, law-breaking nonsense?

    Don’t you consider yourself complicit in Israel’s crimes?

    Tell this forum how much you contribute to support the really goofy notions that you laid out and that your money helps to reinforce.

    Now, how many Palestinian dead people does your money redeem?

    Think in REAL terms, man, not some whack-a-doodle notions about somebody coming down from the sky then doing the sequel.

    “good Christians.”

    The problem, not the solution.

  136. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    When you make no sense, Chuck….. you really make no sense. Perhaps you misunderstood the question. But congrats on your LTE. Did you submit the picture of Ray, or did the editors do that on their own?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  137. @Patricus

    Read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION and the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and by the way I do not hate the Jews as the vast majority are not involved in what the Zionists have done and are doing to America.

    Read Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution to see what the Zionists did to Russia and these are the very type of Zionists who are destroying America via the wars we are forced to fight for Israel and the wars ie WWI and on down to this very day that we have fought for the Zionist bankers who own the FED and the IRS.

    The Zionists have a goal of a NWO ie a Zionist controlled ONE WORLD GOV, suggest y0u do some research on this and yes Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911, that is a fact, suggest you do some research on this also.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Momus
  138. iffen says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Jews, on the other hand, shoot ‘em in situ and let the dying bury the dead.

    And some foolish people argue that Jews are not smarter than the average bears.

  139. Sam Shama says:
    @L.K

    L.K. what a delight to see you!

    Hope the caretaker at the reptile enclosure is taking good care of your mother’s rat ration while you are away slithering into our view?

    But do tell me, have you found gainful employment yet? I know, I know the circuses are a bit busy these days with mentalists and their likes, so the reptilian act takes a backseat. What can an honest reptile hybrid do? Kepp me abreast of your progress, won’t you?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Hessler
  140. iffen says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    I predict even iffen can answer that one.

    I would need to know where PG was stationed in the late 70′s in order to answer this one, Woodchuck.

    How’s the shack-up with Melissa going?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  141. @RobinG

    RobinG astutely noticed: “When you make no sense, Chuck….. you really make no sense.”

    Hi RobinG,

    Close to how the old & catchy ZUS Army recruiting-slogan went, I try to “be all that I can be” in all forms of understanding and misunderstanding.

    F.y.i, it was The Times-Tribune letters-editor who offered the picture of Ray upon the floor. And I give them credit for doing so. Also, I emailed Mr. McGovern to offer goodwill & “thanks” for his extraordinary service

    Thanks, RobinG. Am pleased L.K. supplied the information you requested on Mossadegh’s fate.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  142. Iris says:
    @Momus

    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they’ve been brought to hospital.

    These facts have been consistently reported by eminent health professionals volunteering in Gaza:

    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Gaza-le-professeur-Oberlin-constate-les-blessures-des-Palestiniens-50968.html

    You are a piece of filth without a shred of humanity in you.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Momus
  143. Sam Shama says:
    @anonymous

    Well ok, I suppose; although your frenzied reply suggests otherwise. It is not the reply of an insecure poster who could not muster the courage to write under their usual handle while indulging in a fit of insults?

    Why the insults? “Jewy Jew”, “Jewish Devil”, etc. Do you find the suggestion of cultural and business exchanges objectionable? I should really like to know.

    Stay well anonymous[107]

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  144. @iffen

    Ever self deluded & lost, & compassionate, iffen asked me: “How’s the shack-up with Melissa going?”

    Hi iffen,

    The shack-up with Melissa is (hubba-hubba!) akbar, and if you don’t mind my asking, does the Maven Shama permit you to shack-up & indulge “sloppy seconds” with his mares?

    Thanks!

    • Replies: @iffen
  145. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    No, sigh… Mossadegh’s fate is common knowledge. It’s CIA role in the fall of the Shah that I inquired. [And not the stupid, Khomeini half British Indian conspiracy version, either.] At least that putz iffen can read.

    • Replies: @iffen
  146. llloyd says: • Website
    @anon

    My comment on shopping spree was meant ironically. That was the disgusting words used by the Zionist American media to describe the temporary liberation of the Gazans into Egypt about ten years ago. There was a time the Gazans could take bus rides into Cairo and Tel Aviv. At the time after Oslo, Gaza was made a sister city of Tel Aviv. Gaza as a free prosperous city State was possible until the psychos took over Israel and have kept bombing every step of Gazan progress. Gazan air port, power station. All destroyed by the psychos in Jerusalem.

  147. peterAUS says:
    @Iris

    Getting slightly crude.

    Palestinians are deliberately shot with soft nose bullets which cause fist-size wounds and shatter the bones, leaving only amputation as means of treatment.

    They are victims of chemical attacks which cause recurrent seizures and convulsion, even long after they’ve been brought to hospital.

    You sure this is the proper target audience for such…..work?

    You appear to be on the game. Good.
    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C’mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Say, something which would, most likely, put, say, a British soldier in a prison for murder.

    As, say:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44054776

    With all this video coverage (impossible during “Troubles”) that shouldn’t be a problem.

    You call.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Art
    , @Iris
  148. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @mark green

    Sure, there’s plenty of blame and responsibility to go around. The deep state. The ‘military-industrial complex’. And of course there’s Trump.

    But primarily, I blame the Jews.

    They are all one and the same, deep state = military industrial complex = Israel lobby = msm = jews. Trump is being subjugated thanks to his son-in-law, he’s trying to fight his way out.

  149. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @turtle

    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.
    Clearly, the facilities are not yet in place to do so.

    Such facilities have been in place since WWII, one would say the Jews are quite familiar with them.

  150. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Sounds like what you’re saying is Jews are a parasitic species that cannot thrive outside its host. The two questions are:

    1) can you kill the parasites without killing the host? and

    2) can you kill the host without killing the parasites?

    Both are possible.

  151. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hope the caretaker at the reptile enclosure is taking good care of your mother’s rat ration while you are away slithering into our view?

    Hmm — what kind of a reptilian cabal would mendaciously claim that their people were made into soap and lamp shades — all with the express goal of harming another people?

    Shame shame!

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

    p.s. The Jews have been doing it for 70 years – when will it end – how will it end?

  152. N. P. says:

    The Rothschilds’ March To WWIII

    Why Trump Is A Rothschild Tool

    https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/

    NATO UK:

    https://www.chathamhouse.org/

  153. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K

    I have long held the position that the biggest problem with the Jews is their dishonesty, which directly leads to their incapability for any introspection. Everything is always someone else’s fault. Nothing is ever their own damn fault. Yes it’s horrible that the holocaust happened, but what did the Jews do that made Hitler hate them so much he would go to war to exterminate them? It takes two to tango. One side cannot be completely blameless. Their inability to self-critique will cause them to continue to make the same mistakes and engender the same kind of resentment over and over again. And now they have inculcated the brainless blacks with the same toxic victim mentality.

    Instead of making the world a better place with their higher intelligence, Jews manage to make the world a worse place for everyone. Are they God’s chosen or Satan’s?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  154. Biff says:
    @Momus

    Duped about what?

    And he makes my point.

    Q: How do you keep a Pollack in suspense?

    A: I’ll tell you tomorrow.

  155. rejection of JCPOA was a watershed moment.

    When the Joint Plan deal was signed I thought that had the potential to be a “watershed moment” as well. Even though I never expected a possibility of even minimal diplomatic relations. The Mosaddeq coup and the US embassy trashing seem like two obstacles that are impossible to work through. But if the deal –such a difficult negotiation– could have been successful maybe a slow process leading towards mutual respect was possible? I don’t believe there’s a chance of that now thanks to Trump and
    our question-free relationship of the conduct of Israel.

    Between the erratic Trump administration and a hostile Israel, Iran needs to practice dramatic outreach in its foreign policy with Europe to avoid war. I’m sure they will be following the US midterm elections with great interest.

  156. Biff says:
    @peterAUS

    It could help if you, Europeans, could imagine all that happening at your border with your solders dealing with all that.

    Look up the definition of a border – “a line between two States”. Gaza is not a State.
    Look up the definition of a prison wall, and you will find the truth.

  157. Thanks for sharing, dear Phil. And I hope to see you again at the upcoming Ron Paul Conference August 18.

    You wrote:

    “The only attempt to censor the conference and its content has been, I would note, the blocking of sponsor New Horizon’s website on Google and presumably elsewhere in the Zionist/U.S. dominated social media and information-searching world.”

    As a former Jew, now an Orthodox Christian, I just come right out with it: It’s JEW-DOMINATED, and JEW-OWNED media, social media and information-searching world.

    Google is owned by The Mossad and has been since its inception by funding Sergei Brin and Larry Page when they were students at Stanford back in the 90′s. Google is JEWGLE, it is JEW-OWNED.

    Here’s my point and trajectory.

    Jews are getting nervous, more and more “goys” are on to them including influential journalists.

    The millennials are against Israeli violence of Palestinians and have no interest in the HoloHoax scam. In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.

    So what’s the JEW to do?

    Not only continue de-ranking (like Unz Review has been de-ranked); censoring on JEWtoob; restricting PayPiss accounts; limiting searches to what’s acceptable to Jews (try ‘googling’ Israel’s ‘Samson Option’…nothing comes up. Do it on Bing and BINGO.

    The next phase by King Tut JEW (I’m on to you Momus, you JEW TROLL) is to threaten ISP’s with a letter from the ADL saying they’re sponsoring ‘hate sites.’

    MANY ISP’s and Web Hosting Services will succumb. But we can be TEN STEPS ahead of King KUCK Jew.

    Ron Unz, Jeff Rense, David Duke, and other ‘Truth Sites” need to develop independent internet infrastructures. I urge all of you who have prominent websites to embark on this. Feel free to write to me.

    +Brother Nathanael, Publisher Real Jew News @

    http://www.realjewnews.com/

  158. @anon

    It is quite clear why Hitler sent jews to concentration camps.
    In a 1939 speech he threatened them that ‘should they again cause a world war, they themselves ran the chance of being ausgerottet’.
    Ausgerottet at the time was not genocide, but ‘weeding out’.
    As far as I can see the Madagaskar plan, moving all jews from camps after the war to the island, was not inconsistent with ‘ausrotten’.
    Hans Jansen, ‘Der Madagaskar Plan, Die beabsichtigte Deportation der europäischen Juden nach Madagaskar’, München 1997
    Trans ‘the planned deportation of European jews to Madagaskar’.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  159. @DESERT FOX

    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  160. @Patricus

    According to the definition of the atheistic jews of themselves ‘anyone who feels connected to the jewish culture’, my estimate would be that the USA has some ten percent jews.
    I corresponded with a christian USA writer, whose grandfather, or great grandfather, forgot, in 1870 in Germany converted from judaism to christianity.
    In my opinion my correspondent still was a jew, his first loyalty to jews.
    One also sees this in his books.

  161. @Biff

    A cab driver in Tehran knows more about the world affairs than Trump, Bolton and Pompeo combined!

    • Replies: @Momus
  162. freebird says:

    Possibly a bit naive on the authors part. Undeniable that Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of world wide terror and that the country is trying to develop nuclear weapons with the capability of delivering them anywhere on the globe. ———- Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @jacques sheete
    , @anon
  163. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    At least that putz iffen can read.

    You are a cut above your fellow travelers. Every one of them would have written “that dishonest putz iffen.”

  164. Momus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Judicial notice is an established precedent in the US and in similar principal across the West.

    See here:

    IHR was a flogger denier group set up by Nazi William Carto.

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward. Represented by public interest attorney William John Cox, Mermelstein subsequently sued the IHR in the Superior Court of Los Angeles County for breach of contract, anticipatory repudiation, libel, injurious denial of established fact, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and declaratory relief On October 9, 1981, both parties in the Mermelstein case filed motions for summary judgment in consideration of which Judge Thomas T. Johnson of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County took “judicial notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944,” judicial notice meaning that the court treated the gas chambers as common knowledge, and therefore did not require evidence that the gas chambers existed. On August 5, 1985, Judge Robert A. Wenke entered a judgment based upon the Stipulation for Entry of Judgment agreed upon by the parties on July 22, 1985. The judgment required IHR and other defendants to pay $90,000 to Mermelstein and to issue a letter of apology to “Mr. Mel Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau and Buchenwald, and all other survivors of Auschwitz” for “pain, anguish and suffering” caused to them.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Svigor
  165. iffen says:
    @freebird

    Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    We don’t need no stinking facts. Dem Jews what done it is all anyone needs to know.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  166. Momus says:
    @DESERT FOX

    You need to do some research not suck up the benthos fecal matter fed to you.

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @annamaria
  167. @Biff

    When the crash comes, there are going to be large numbers of elderly Americans living on good pensions who will all of a sudden be broke. Many of these will be conservative, Evangelical, Israel -worshippers who will be loud and angry because they can no longer go on their “little cruises” or visit Branson, Missouri next Christmas. With great glee, I will tell them – “Do you love being broke?; if so, thank an Israeli. And, also why don’t you personally thank your Congressman for pissing off the whole world to spite the Palestinians and the Iranians!”

  168. @peterAUS

    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C’mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Could you, please post one link to any credible material which clearly proves “Ay-rabs” did 9/11?

    Or that the Germans gassed 6 million?

    Or that Iran is an existential threat to either the US or Israel?

    Clearly you and your ilk are shooting blanks (insult intended).

  169. @jilles dykstra

    The Protocols were written at the request of the tsarist secret police.

    You are usually quite good at substantiating your points. Please substantiate that one.

    Even if forgeries, do they not describe much of what we see happening?

  170. @freebird

    Need to fact facts (sic???) in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock.

    You mean, like your witless, vacuous, brainless comment?

  171. @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Jews are getting nervous, more and more “goys” are on to them including influential journalists.

    Jews are always nervous. I’d be nervous too if I spent my life lying, stealing, defrauding, mocking, killing, enslaving, and despising goyim as well as “lesser” Jews..

    In 2o years Holocaust Museums will be turned into restaurants.

    I can think of some other uses. Restaurants? Gag me!!!

  172. @Momus

    In other words holocaust deniers, anti semitic racists, must be treated the same as someone with a dangerous communicable disease- say typhus or Ebola.

    You are amusing in a pathetically puerile way, but what shall we do with the mothers of all racists, the violent Zionists? Explain.

  173. @Momus

    “Jewish intellectual power” is pure hype.

    By far the top ethnic group intellectually in America be all measures (standard tests, grades, etc.) are Asians.

    The Ivies is filled with undeserving Jewish students at the expense of Asian and white students who are not Jewish

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Sam J.
  174. Incitatus says:
    @iffen

    “I guess I could compliment Israel for doing their part, but I don’t see a lot of options available to them.”

    Non-lethal intervention (tear gas, water cannon, etc.), only when absolutely necessary?

    Dichter’s “If every man, woman and child in Gaza gathers at the gate, in other words, there is a bullet for every one of them. They can all be killed, no problem” seems criminally suggestive, no better than fringe Palestinian rhetoric.

    • Replies: @iffen
  175. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete insightfully wrote: ”
    Even if forgeries, do they not describe much of what we see happening?”

    Hi Jacques,

    They only want you to read & see what they want.

    Article below displays beautiful pictures that perhaps P.G. had the pleasure to see in Iran.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/16/561942/Iran-persian-garden

    Thanks, Brother!

  176. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    But Exodus by Leon Urine and Holocaust the teevee series are the trooff, the whole trooff and nothing but the troof.

    —-
    @ 176 jacques sheete says:

    I can think of some other uses. Restaurants? Gag me!!!

    AGREE!!

    Imagine the menu– Smoked baby-back ribs?

  177. Momus says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    More benthos garbage. Samson Option, Israel’s little joke, garners me hundreds of Google references.

  178. Momus says:
    @Zio Please

    Numerically azn, qualitatively Ashkenazi Einstein.

  179. @Momus

    Yes, Judicial Notice is an established precedent, and that legal procedure rests on

    ~ sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.
    ~ facts are outside of reasonable controversy,
    ~ A high degree of indisputability is the essential prerequisite.

    These characteristics do not apply to the ordained narratives of the holocaust ™

    The primary, or foundational notion of American legal process is that all parties are entitled to an unprejudiced hearing. That basic principle has not yet been applied to the so-called holocaust: the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing, and the Jewish side has been gathered and presented (relentlessly) in emotion-laden tones and downright mendacity, with German defendants under duress, torture, acknowledged psychological warfare.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @iffen
  180. Chu says:
    @mark green

    agree. In the NY Times this morning they are hailing the death of Philip Roth as ‘the last of the great white males’.

    Wow, who knew and to talk about cultural appropriation…

  181. Svigor says:
    @Momus

    No, denial law serves the role of enforcing Jewish preference as law.

    It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general.

    If Jews had any long-term sense, they’d be fighting these laws, against the day that they don’t have the cash to keep buying people off, or the clout to keep threatening them.

    • Replies: @Momus
  182. Svigor says:
    @Momus

    In 1980, the IHR promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Mel Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The IHR wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five. Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward.

    LOL. A Jew’s word is “proof,” if it’s notarized. Jews are a trip.

    “As he later learned.”

    In other words, hearsay. Even the testimony itself would be thrown out of court.

    That whole comment is a great example of why Jews are hated. No sense of decency.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Momus
  183. @jacques sheete

    Protocols of the Elders of Zion
    “The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now.” –Henry Ford, 2-17-21, whose newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, cited the Protocols as evidence of an alleged Jewish threat until at least 1927
    “To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion….” –Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery made in Russia for the Okhrana (secret police), which blames the Jews for the country’s ills. It was first privately printed in 1897 and was made public in 1905. It is copied from a nineteenth century novel by Hermann Goedsche (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.
    The basic story was composed by Goedsche, a German novelist and anti-Semite who used the pseudonym of Sir John Retcliffe. Goedsche stole the main story from another writer, Maurice Joly, whose Dialogues in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864) involved a Hellish plot aimed at opposing Napoleon III. Goedsche’s original contribution consists mainly of introducing Jews to do the plotting to take over the world.
    The Russians used big chunks of a Russian translation of Goedsche’s novel, published it separately as the Protocols, and claimed they were authentic. Their purpose was political: to strengthen the czar Nicholas II’s position by exposing his opponents as allies with those who were part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world. Thus, the Protocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.
    The Protocols were exposed as a forgery by Lucien Wolf in The Jewish Bogey and the Forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (London: Press Committee of the Jewish Board of Deputies, 1920). In 1921, Philip Grave, a correspondent for the London Times, publicized the forgery. Herman Bernstein in The Truth About “The Protocols of Zion”: A Complete Exposure (1935) also tried and failed to convince the world of the forgery.
    The Protocols were published in 1920 in a Michigan newspaper started by Henry Ford mainly to attack Jews and Communists. Even after they were exposed as a forgery, Ford’s paper continued to cite the document. Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.
    The Protocols hoax continues to fool people and is still cited by certain individuals and groups as the cause of all their woes.
    See related entries on Holocaust denial, the Illuminati and shoehorning.

    further reading
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
    What’s the story with the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”? The Straight Dope
    Bronner, Stephen Eric. A Rumor About the Jews : Reflections on Antisemitism and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (St Martins Press, 2000)
    Cohn, Norman Rufus Colin. Warrant for Genocide; the Myth of the Jewish World-conspiracy and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York: Harper & Row, 1967).
    Goldberg, Isaac. The so-called “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”; a Definitive Exposure of One of the Most Malicious Lies in History (Girard, Kansas, Haldeman-Julius Publications, 1936).
    Segel, B. W. A Lie and a Libel: the History of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Richard S. Levy, translator & editor, (Lincoln, NE : University of Nebraska Press, 1995).
    United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on the Judiciary.
    Protocols of the Elders of Zion; a fabricated “historic” document; a report prepared by the Subcommittee to Investigate the Administration of the Internal Security Act and Other Internal Security Laws … Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1964.
    Wolf, Lucien. The Myth of the Jewish Menace in World Affairs; or, The Truth About the Forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York, The Macmillan company, 1921).
    ©copyright 2002
    Robert Todd Carroll

    Even if the protocols describe what is happening, they still are fake

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @CalDre
  184. Momus says:
    @Iris

    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.
    These warnings were ignored and Hamas’s aim of breaking into Israel to kill and create mayhem was revealed. Security measures were ramped up.
    In common with security and police force procedure around the world in those situations hollow point ammo is used to shock the target and to avoid a high velocity round travelling through and hitting others.
    Re the chemical attacks. Is there an independent cite of chemical weapons being used; or is that a filthy slander from an anti semite bereft of any impartiality?

    • Replies: @manorchurch
  185. Momus says:
    @Monty Ahwazi

    Ahh, but can he influence them?

  186. @Svigor

    A weird story.
    The gassings were supposed to have happened at one of the Auschwitz camps, there were many, Birkenau.
    As even Elie Wiesel describes, Birkenau was the camp for those seen as unfit for work.
    Elie Wiesel, ‘La Nuit’, 1958, 2007
    Wiesel was in different camps, there were good and bad camps, depending on who ran the camps were good or bad people.
    As all camps had self management, those that survived, because they ate well, the others died, according to Rassinier after some six months, under nourishment, this Mermelstein must have belonged to the Birkenau camp management.
    Even Wiesel describes the self management, and how this management was well fed.
    This management, at the periodic inspections by German doctors, of all inmates in all camps, was never sent to Birkenau.
    Germans hardly ever entered the camps.
    Wiesel never was in Birkenau, but did see from a distance the chimneys of the crematoria, that he assumed were gas chambers, or so, his story on this is not very clear.
    I thus wonder if Mermelstein was part of the camp management, and let his relatives die.
    Why nobody bothers to read Wiesel, I do not understand

  187. @SolontoCroesus

    As far as I know there is hardly a German side.
    Holocaust ‘denial’, I think the word is inappropriate, one denies to have committed a murder, that there was a murder is proven by a body, killed, is by the French Rassinier and Faurisson, the American Butz, the Canadian German Zundel, the American Leuchter, and yes a German, Rudolf.
    Even then, the debate mainly is about gas chambers, did they exist or not.
    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris
    This description of persecutions and the holocaust is based on evidence given at the Neurenberg trials.
    As far as I know there never was any other trial in Germany about the holocaust.
    There was to be one in the sixties, an Auschwitz under commander then found, he denied the gas chambers, but there was no trial, the apparently healthy man suddenly died in prison.
    Rassinier was not allowed to enter Germany to witness the trial.

  188. To Brother geokat,

    Hi geo,

    Am impressed & heartened with the proliferation of a variety of dissent methods coming at the Mighty ZUS.

    Am grateful for ALL as I now describe the daring (suicidal?) journey named “The Freedom Flotilla.” One of the crafts on the way to the blockaded Gaza Strip is Norwegian & is lettered, “Al Awda” (‘The Return,’ in Arabic). In contrast to USS Liberty’s mission, I hope The Freedom Flotilla crew returns!

    Perhaps you’re aware of this humane relief-trip, geo? But just in case, posted (below) is an obscure article written by a passenger,Elizabeth Murray. She served as a US Deputy Intelligence Adviser, is now retired after a 27-year career.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/22/a-new-flotilla-steams-towards-gaza/

    Thanks, Brother geo!

    Post scriptum:
    Yesterday’s NYT featured a hypocritical column written by the Jewish David Brooks who opined about “Single selfless thread binds moral heroes.”
    Brook’s heroes are commendable, including St. Mother Teresa & the former-UN Secretary General, Dag Hammarskjold. (Zigh) At least Brooks did not bind together Hollywood’s “The American Sniper” and Nikki Haley.

  189. @Momus

    IDF used paper leaflets warning of danger if the Gaza fence was approached as their initial deterrent.

    You are so full of shit. Israel has mounted a sustained campaign of genocide against Palestinians for 70 years. The UN accord that created “Israel” provided full citizenship for the Palestinian residents. Israel has systematically denied all rights of citizenship to Palestinians, incrementing the level of discrimination, denial, and outright murder with each passing year.

    Israel has outdone the Nazis for Holocaust creation. The situation is contemptible in the extreme, and Israel’s government should be put down like the mad dog it shows itself to be.

  190. Sam Shama says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    try ‘googling’ Israel’s ‘Samson Option’…nothing comes up.

    Here, let’s try Googling ‘Samson Option”

    https://www.google.com/search?q=samson+option&oq=Samson+option&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.6643j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Anything else, Brother?

  191. anarchyst says:
    @Sam Shama

    An Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the power outage in Atlanta without being inspected by U S customs. This reeks of covert activity… The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”. Just maybe one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for “the big one”. As Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship only reinforces “split loyalty”–NOT upholding the interests of the United States, and must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should not be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

  192. RobinG says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Scott Bennett is posting speakers at the conference. (Should copies be made, in case YouTube decides to censor?)

    MICHAEL MALOOF, former Pentagon Official, speaking in Iran at the New Horizons Conference

  193. FLgeezer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    A classic post S2C. You are the best! 8-)

  194. Steve3455 says:

    You are playing the same subtle game with words that the radical Zionists in Israel always play, using the game to somehow transform an ugly reality into something else.

    The Gaza fence is not a “border” in any lawful sense. Gaza is a totally enclosed and blockaded territory totally under Israel’s direct and indirect control. Therefore, it is an open-air prison camp, not a “country”. So it is not a “border”, it is the barrier fence of a prison camp. The prisoners, not having been convicted of any recognized crime in a court of law, are guilty solely of having once lived in Palestine and having the “wrong” religion, enjoy the same legal status that Jews themselves enjoyed in the Warsaw Ghetto: Stateless animals with no rights their prison-warden felt bound to respect.

    The people of Gaza have a moral right to escape their unjust confinement. The Israeli soldiers who guard that fence are ALL war criminals, no different than the Nazi guards of ghettos and concentration camps. Yes, I said it, MORALLY NO DIFFERENT.

    • Agree: manorchurch
  195. Momus says:
    @Svigor

    “It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general.”

    Irony much?

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, not the rights of the perpetrators.

  196. gwynedd1 says:
    @manorchurch

    Genocide is a loaded term. What do we really mean by it? There are at least as many Native Americans as there were when Europe discovered North America at the neolithic stage of development. So its not by raw numbers. The Palestinian population is not shrinking. So it cannot be by raw numbers alone. Israel is certainly killing a lot of them.

    Israel is definitely a negative influence on their culture, far worse than the Native Americans who really were a backward culture.

    • Replies: @manorchurch
  197. Momus says:
    @manorchurch

    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.

    Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Ahmadiyya, Arab Christians Copts, Druze, Syriac Christians Arameans, Assyrians, Samaritans, Armenians, Circassians, People from post-Soviet states, Finns, Baha’is, Vietnamese, African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem.

    The problem for the indigenous Arabs was they underestimated the Jews resolve to make something of their shared homeland and thought they would be pushovers in military confrontation.

    Many Arabs dug themselves into a hole because of that assumption, and are still digging to no effect, unfortunately. Think the burrowing Hamas; doing it literally.

    Many Arabsare happy to say that they are better off in Israel than in any of the surrounding 23 Muslim Arab countries.

  198. @manorchurch

    It is the other way round.
    Israel is the cause that the number of Palestinians grew explosively.
    The 800.000 or so of 1948 now is some seven million.
    The cause is that just married men with children are allowed to work in Israel, just families get UN food aid.
    As a consequence, they marry at fifteen.
    The big zionist mistake is not to have committed genocide when it still was possible, in 1948, no video cameras, no satellite connections, no Youtube.
    Hardly any telex connections, a telex that could send pictures, no idea if it even existed at the time.

    • Replies: @manorchurch
    , @L.K
  199. tac says:
    @mark green

    Agreed. The other side to take into account is the vast transfer of wealth, technology, military assets to Israel. And this is where one needs to pay close attention to the messianic angle (to be used for political, financial, military gain of Israel–at the expense of its hosts …. and keep this in mind, the existence and prosperity of Israel is more dependent on the Jews of the diaspora than that of the population in Israel itself).

    All the other distractions with the Obama Deep State, are just that, distractions ….

    Israel’s aggressive behavior is prophesied in Hebrew Bible:
    Authored by: Laurent Guyenot

    “…The paradox is only apparent, because for Zionists, the Bible is not a religious text, but a textbook of history. And so it should be obvious to anybody paying attention that Israel’s behavior on the international scene cannot be understood without a deep inquiry into the Bible’s underlying ideology. Only by taking account of the biblical roots of Zionism can one understand why Zionism has never been a nationalist movement like others. It could not be, as Gilad Atzmon remarked, from the moment it defined itself as a Jewish movement, aimed at creating a “Jewish state”.[6] Jewish exceptionalism is a biblical concept that has no equivalent in any other ethnic or religious culture.

    The launching of the Iraq War was a decisive step toward that goal of a new world order headquartered in Jerusalem. It was the context for a “Jerusalem Summit” held in October 2003 in the highly symbolic King David Hotel, to seal an alliance between Jewish and Christian Zionists.

    The “Jerusalem Declaration” signed by its participants declared Jerusalem “the key to the harmony of civilizations,” replacing the United Nations that had become “a tribalized confederation hijacked by Third World dictatorships”:

    “Jerusalem’s spiritual and historical importance endows it with a special authority to become a center of world’s unity. [. . .] We believe that one of the objectives of Israel’s divinely-inspired rebirth is to make it the center of the new unity of the nations, which will lead to an era of peace and prosperity, foretold by the Prophets.”

    according to Deuteronomy Yahweh plans to deliver to Israel “seven nations greater and mightier than [it],” adding: “you must utterly destroy them; you shall make no covenant with them, and show no mercy to them.”

    https://russia-insider.com/en/israels-aggressive-behavior-embodied-and-prophesied-hebrew-bible/ri22632

    See my other comments on the other thread starting with this one about the plan to build the third Temple:

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-messiah-is-here/#comment-2340971

    and this:

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/02/17/revealed-the-temple-mount-movements-goal-build-third-temple-ruins-al-aqsa/

  200. Momus says:
    @Svigor

    From Wikipedia:

    Mel Mermelstein (born September 25, 1926, Örösveg (or Oroszvég, Ukrainian: Rosvyhove, German: Rosswegau), near Munkacs) is a Hungarian-born Jew, sole-survivor of his family’s extermination at Auschwitz concentration camp who defeated the Institute for Historical Review in an American court and in 1981 had the occurrence of gassings in Auschwitz during the Holocaust declared a legally incontestable fact.[1]

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  201. anonymous[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    It wasn’t effective propaganda, it’s just that simpering imbeciles like Giraldi, the anti-Jew pinheads on Unz, the EU, UN, etc… blindly accept it as truth because they suffer from Israel Derangement Syndrome. Much like Trump Derangement Syndrome. Here’s what Hamas has to say about the “massacre” -

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/middleeast/hamas-members-gaza-deaths/index.html

    In truth, the vast majority of “victims” are Hamas’ own terrorists. The other “victims” are military aged males, some of them from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group.

    When Israel was created and Arabs were dispossessed, even more Jews were dispossessed from Arab lands. Muslims have no intention of compensating those Jews and, certainly, the Turks showed the precedent of how to treat infidels in their genocide of 3 million Armenians and Greeks. The fake Palestinians should have been absorbed by adjacent Muslim countries.

    The sane Arab states will put pressure on the “Palestinians” to settle.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-must-make-peace-or-shut-up-saudi-crown-prince-said-to-tell-us-jews/

    Particularly, since the GCC is trashing everyone’s asses and that includes Iran. The EU will not go against the US regarding Iran. The EU has been on the side of evil for a long time – for the Paris Climate Accord, against Brexit, for unlimited 3rd world immigration, against free speech, for TPP. Supporting the Iran Deal is evil as well.

    • Agree: Momus
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  202. @Momus

    Superfluous Momus opined: “This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.”

    Hi Momus,

    First, what is a Momus? Is there a Larrymus? A Curleymus? A Shempmos? Let me know, please, Moe?

    Oh my, how long would be a list to post all the Jewish Lobby-owned ZUS Congressmen & Senators.

    Selah, Zecretary of Ztate, Mike Pompeo’s address to the Heritage Foundation on inevitable “regime change” requirement in Iran.

    • Replies: @Momus
  203. @gwynedd1

    Genocide is a loaded term. What do we really mean by it?

    Loaded term? It sure is. It should be, doncha think? If Israelis are putting great effort into corraling Palestinians into what is, essentially, a concentration camp worthy of any SS ambition, I feel quite comfortable referring to the process as genocide. Genocide is the purpose, therefore genocide is the correct term. Another useful term might be, oh, say “fish in a barrel”?

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
  204. @jilles dykstra

    Israel is the cause that the number of Palestinians grew explosively.

    Don’t bullshit, jake. The purpose is genocide; the actor is Israel. Therefore, Israel is guilty of genocide.

  205. @Momus

    This is a short list of minorities in Israel. Many including Arabs and Bedouins of course are represented in the Knesset.

    WTF? Relevance????

    The Palestinians in Gaza have been systematically denied all rights. Gaza is a concentration camp, Auschwitz-style. A slow genocide, perpetrated by Israel, is being pursued. Some weeks the genocide gets a quick boost as a few dozen Palestinians are murdered by the IDF — preferably toddlers, women and children.

    It is very clear what YOU are.

    • Replies: @Momus
  206. @Sam Shama

    Hi Maven Shama,

    Can we take pause for a Momus of Truth?

    (Zigh)

  207. @anonymous

    Where is Mohammad bin Salman?

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-has-mohammad-bin-salman-gone-so-quiet/

    . . . he has barely been seen in public since prolonged heavy gunfire was heard at the royal palace in Riyadh in the middle of the night on April 21.

    At the time Saudi state media dismissed reports on Twitter and elsewhere the shots were the sound of a coup taking place, insisting instead the semi-automatic gunfire was merely aimed at a recreational drone that had flown too close to the palace walls.

    In this age of fake news and heavy Arab media censorship it’s hard to know who to trust, but what seems certain is that the Crown Prince, previously ubiquitous as the international focal point of a cultural revolution in the kingdom, seems suddenly to have vanished.

    • Replies: @Art
  208. @Momus

    From Wikipedia:

    Zionists edit wikipedia to ‘properly’ present Israel; “this kind of knowledge is important for defending Israel . . . it’s so important to be online and to prove to ourselves that we are just and we are right . . .”

    in 1981 had the occurrence of gassings in Auschwitz during the Holocaust declared a legally incontestable fact.[1]

    What documentation was presented to support this ‘declaration’?

    • Replies: @Momus
  209. @Momus

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, .

    Which one?

    The “persecution” pogroms in Russia that provoked Jacob Schiff to rush in and fund the Bolshvik revolution — but was then discovered to have involved episodic mob violence that cost the lives of 43 — count ‘em, 43 Jews? Far fewer than Palestinians that Israel killed earlier this month.

    Rabbi Stephen Wise belly-ached about “6 million Jews” being “persecuted” sine ~1900.

    How do you say “cry wolf” in Yiddish?

    • Replies: @CalDre
  210. Art says:
    @peterAUS

    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?

    Poor AUS – their peter can type. He is insulting and an embarrassment.

    AUS is a fine Western nation – peter is an anti-Western, failing, false narrative popper.

    Art

    p.s. Why would a Western person lie for the Jews? Really!

    p.s. If you support the Israelis – you have to lie.

  211. @Zumbuddi

    Jews started colonizing Palestine at latest by 1910.
    In 1930, the project was still sparse and in danger of financial collspse.

    While the Zionist Jews may have started in Palestine, “Israel” has no borders. This makes Nikki Haley’s “who among us would accept this type of activity on your border?” a question like “When did you stop beating your wife?”
    Most of the statements about Israel are idiotic:
    “Israel has a right to defend itself” … and the Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Jordanians don’t?
    “Israel has a right to secure borders.” … OK, what are they?
    “Israel has a right to exist.”… exist as what?; but Palestine doesn’t? Does any country have the “right to exist”? Clearly, Yugoslavia didn’t nor did the Soviet Union.
    “Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East”… You mean the people don’t really vote in Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt?

    All of it is meaningless claptrap.

  212. anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @freebird

    Undeniable that Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of world wide terror and that the country is trying to develop nuclear weapons with the capability of delivering them anywhere on the globe.

    In what way is Iran a sponsor of world wide terror? ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra are all sunni muslims not shiites like Iranians. 9/11 was carried out by 19 sunni muslims including 15 from Saudi Arabia. 99% of all terrors committed in western countries are by sunnis. If anything it is Saudi Arabia that is the biggest sponsor of world terror.

    Iran supports Hamas and Hamas’ only target is Israel, because of their incursion into Lebanon and Gaza. Almost all western countries except the US have delisted Hamas as a terror organization. Iran is not a sponsor of world terror but Saudi Arabia is, it’s time for CIA, the neocons and the Jew owned msm in America to tell the truth.

  213. Art says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Where is Mohammad bin Salman?

    An excellent question. Clearly something has happened. Before the gun fire, MBS was front and center all the time. MBS did not meet the US appointed “world’s cop” (Pompeo) when he was in Saudi.

    No matter what, this is going to slow down Kushner’s plans for the Sunni Arab elite to suck up to Israel.

    Apparently, the Saudi king was taken to a US air base for safe keeping. How totally disgusting. America defending a Wahabis poobob. 9/11 &%^&^%*&^%&[email protected]%&^)()(*%#%@$

    Think Peace — Art

  214. @iffen

    Need to fact facts in the analysis or everything else is just poppycock

    We don’t need no stinking facts. Dem Jews what done it is all anyone needs to know.

    We don’t need no stinking facts. Dem Nazis what done it is all anyone needs to know.

  215. @Momus

    The Protocols of Zion are fake; they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    Like the Horrorcaust is a myth set up by the Zionists.

    • Replies: @renfro
  216. Momus says:
    @manorchurch

    Rights denied to Gazans are denied by their despotic, kleptocratic, theological ‘leaders’ Hamas.
    A good job would be an indentured tunnel worker; try having a beer.

    If they behaved like other Israeli Arabs, instead of arseholes, they would be a lot better off.

    Genocide in the middle of a population explosion? Gaza’s population is growing mightily: 3% a year.

    • Replies: @manorchurch
  217. @Sam Shama

    Yes, there is something else…

    Added to the ramping up of censorship by JEWS who own and control the information apparatus will be an enlarged enlistment of low-rent JEW TROLLS who use fake names like “Sam Sham” and “MOOmus.”

    You’re on the losing side, mr SHAM.

    The “goys” are on to you more and more, the kids now use the JEW word derogatively on their latest social forums, (they’ve left FaceBook) and time will bring on a worse backlash against Jews that would make Hitler look like a schoolmarm.

    Next time around no one will be saying, “oh those poor innocent jews.” Instead they’ll say, “the jews deserve it.”

    +Brother Nathanael
    Publisher of Real Jew News @

    http://www.realjewnews.com/

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Sam Shama
  218. @jilles dykstra

    Thus, the Protocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.

    Well that sounds pretty damning, ( a forgery of plagiarized fiction…wow!), until one realizes that they pretty well describe reality. They needn’t have been plagiarized from some fiction.

    In other words, most of those things were known for ages so the “fiction” was probably based on common knowledge.

    For example, I’m confident that if someone wanted to discredit Luther’s Die Juden und ihre Lügen they could successfully claim he “plagiarized” it from some “fiction.”

    I agree with Ford.

  219. Momus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    As good a place to start as any would be with General Eisenhower’s contention that as much documentation of the concentration camp horrors as possible should be recorded.

    This is what Eisenhower said on pages 408-9 of “Crusade in Europe”

    “The same day [April 12, 1945] I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock.

    “I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that `the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.’ Some members of the visiting party were unable to through the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton’s headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.”

  220. Momus says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Research is not your strong point eh Chuckles?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  221. L.K says:
    @jilles dykstra

    You keep repeating this BS, man.

    By 1947, the Palestinians represented roughly 70% of the population of Palestine, this after decades of jew immigration.

    Before the Zionist project, there were hardly any Jews in Palestine, and 95-98% were Palestinian Muslims & Christians.

    Finally, in 1947 the British announced that they would be ending their control of Palestine, which had been created through the League of Nations following World War One, and turned the question of Palestine over to the United Nations.

    At this time, the Zionist immigration and buyout project had increased the Jewish population of Palestine to 30 percent and land ownership from 1 percent to approximately 6 percent.

    The Real Story of How Israel Was Created
    Alison Weir
    CounterPunch & AntiWar.com

    http://ifamericaknew.org/history/realstory.html

  222. renfro says:
    @Momus

    Facts and materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by a witness or other rule of evidence, and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

    And therein lies your holocaust problem:


    Judicial notice nevertheless remains useful for admitting documents
    into evidence because
    [t]he taking of “judicial notice of court records” is actually a
    convenient shorthand for two distinct concepts—importing the
    documents into the record of the matter at hand and establishing
    their authenticity. Importing the documents into the record
    really is not a matter of judicial notice at all; it is a matter of
    offering evidence.9

    If you are envisioning using “common knowledge” as a holocaust tool in a court you still have to provide documents ,evidence and proof….its not just a matter of Jews say so or how many people believe what.

    Which if you are being challenged on your holocaust your opponent will also submit documents , records and evidence to the judge or jury…..probably using official records from the Red Cross , DP records and a myriad of reports from at the time reports and subsequent opposing investigators. So you still have to prove, beyond just Jews say so, that whatever you are claiming…i.e, 6 million, gas chambers, etc……are true, with evidence…..and frankly stories from so called survivors have already been somewhat tainted by all the fake survivors that have been exposed.

    So for you judicial notice isn’t really a slam dunk

  223. gwynedd1 says:
    @manorchurch

    OK, more or less you are saying that Israel has arranged for the easy disposal of Palestinians in their helpless state. Agreed. However its not really genocide until its genocide. However yes the population is quite precarious.

    • Replies: @Art
  224. annamaria says:
    @Momus

    But the documents showing Jacob Schiff financing the anti-Russian activities are real. Same with the documents showing the Jewish Bolsheviks’ sadism against Russians.
    You seem to be in support of research. Well. There is a great documentary “Two Hundred Years Together” by Solzhenitsyn; the book is filled with the riches of factual material.
    The history of ziocons in the US is still in the making. See the Middle Eastern Wars for Israel on the US dime & limb. See also the ongoing process of banderization of Ukraine, courtesy of the leading US ziocons.

  225. renfro says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hey Momus

    they are a false flag set up by the Tsarists.

    Well damn….you should sue Russia cause everyone knows Jews own the false flag maneuver .
    They stole your act….make them pay.

  226. Art says:
    @gwynedd1

    OK, more or less you are saying that Israel has arranged for the easy disposal of Palestinians in their helpless state. Agreed. However its not really genocide until its genocide. However yes the population is quite precarious.

    The truth is that the mendacious Jews want to erase the word “Palestine” from human history.

    They say that there never was a place called “Palestine.”

    There is no end to Jew coercion. They respect no one.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Look at all the trash talk coming from the Jews on this article.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Hessler
  227. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing,

    As far as I know the Germans were reluctant to say very much and still are.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  228. renfro says:
    @Momus

    If Hitler had been smarter he would have shipped the Jews to Japanese POW camps…..they are lucky he didn’t.

  229. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    Non-lethal intervention (tear gas, water cannon, etc.), only when absolutely necessary?

    I haven’t followed the details closely. I don’t know if that would work or not. The essential point is that they can’t allow a breach. The cleanup from that would be a colossal PR disaster.

    no better than fringe Palestinian rhetoric

    Right, and as more of these types come to power the more support they will lose.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  230. renfro says:
    @Momus

    I sometimes wonder if people like you are jew haters in disguise cause you have to be really really stupid not understand that 99% of the world is sick and tired of you and your eternal whining and it just adds to our disgust with you.

    No one cares about the holocaust any more, most of the younger generations know nothing about it.

  231. There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    Indeed there are: tons of documents, in fact, gathered primarily by German Jews during and after the war, and sent to USA where Gerhard Weinberg led a team who copied them, sent the originals back to Germany and the photostats to US archives, where Robert Wolfe, also Jewish, controlled access to the German Archive for several decades.

    The chain of custody leaves something to be desired: were documents incriminating of Allies/Jews destroyed? Were all of the documents returned to Germany (we know from Major-General Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof that the answer to that question is NO. )

    Nevertheless, with this unprecedented in all of history trove of documents, not one scrap of evidence could be found to support the assertion that NSDAP planned and carried out a “systematic, industrialized, extermination of every Jewish man, woman and child they could get their hands on.”

    A new, Jew-approved hagiographer has just published a biography of Eisenhower (similarly re Jimmy Carter), so I’m guessing the Rational Institute has determined that the Merkun people need to have their I Like Ike buttons burnished. Triggered, perhaps, by a surfeit of hits on videos and essays on Eisenhower’s Death Camps, where he gave orders that German POWs be re-classified as Disarmed Enemy Combatants, thus outside the purview of required accommodation of POWs, therefore, he starved them to death.

    Volumes could be written to discredit Eisenhower and ‘evidence’ he gathered, or planted, post-surrender, but pearls before swine and all that.

    The short summery is, The statement you quoted proves nothing; it is not a document stating what NSDAP plans were, or what was carried out.

    Try again.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  232. renfro says:
    @Art

    Jews have a certain kind of stupidity that isn’t curable.

    To quote the renowned historian/anthropologist and “Holy Land” specialist, Professor Ilene Beatty:

    “When we speak of ‘Palestinians’ or of the ‘Arab population [of Palestine]‘, we must bear in mind their Canaanite origin. This is important because their legal right to the country stems…from the fact that the Canaanites were first, which gives them priority; their descendants have continued to live there, which gives them continuity; and (except for the 800,000 dispossessed refugees [of 1948 along with the further hundreds of thousands expelled before and after the war Israel launched on 5 June 1967]) they are still living there, which gives them present possession. Thus we see that on purely statistical grounds they have a proven legal right to their own land.” (“Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan,” 1957)
    In short, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have been living continuously between the River and the Sea for about 9,000 years.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @anon
  233. @iffen

    As far as I know

    Q E D

    • Replies: @iffen
  234. Airhead iffen said: “As far as I know the Germans were reluctant to say very much and still are.”

    Hi iffen,

    Since your tutor has yet to make an appearance here, I will help.

    (Zigh)

    You need to take your thought to the next level, and ask “why” your own words brought you to such an unusually valid conclusion.

  235. Iris says:
    @peterAUS

    A video of the “greatest democracy in the ME”‘s military, beating and abusing wounded Palestinians they just shot, and attacking the unarmed first-aiders and nurses coming to the rescue.

    Your ilk belongs to a Nuremberg tribunal.

    • Replies: @Hessler
  236. Iris says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    A video of the “most moral military in the world” deliberately running over a Palestinian demonstrator:

  237. @Momus

    The stooge Momus noted: “Research is not your strong point eh Chuckles?”

    Correct, MoEmos, presently school bus driving is my specialty!

    As Brother Renfro brought up the matter of your tribe’s False Flag specialty (comment 230), you may chuckle along with the people who took to shits & giggles after the successful “False Flag King David Hotel” bombing, 1946. Please refer to the video linked, below, Moe?

    B.t.w., thanks for the Bush League-level of ridicule. You gave it your best!

    • LOL: renfro
  238. All I got to say is thank you Mr Giraldi for exposing the lies with the truth! Keep up the good work!

  239. Art says:
    @renfro

    In short, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have been living continuously between the River and the Sea for about 9,000 years.

    renfro,

    Thanks much – am saving that whole quote.

    The Jews will see it again and again and again.

    Think Peace — Art

  240. renfro says:

    Well this is going to send Trump into further fits of rage…lol So will he give up his twittering or break the law by still blocking critics? We shall see.

    Trump can’t block users from his Twitter feed, federal judge rules

    Blocking users from viewing his Twitter account is unconstitutional and a violation of the First Amendment, according to the judge.
    by Tom Winter and Elizabeth Chuck / May.23.2018 / 1:13 PM ET / Updated 2:12 PM ET
    NBC

  241. Sam Shama says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Brother Nathanael! I did look forward to receiving a reply from you. But it turns out to be rather unimpressive, all things considered.

    You just got caught lying, claiming that Google doesn’t return anything on “The Samson Option”.

    I say nothing about your very un-Christian attitude which screams of hatred, bitterness and, not to put too fine a point on it, mental instability.

    Look, Jews like me read posts by you, mainly to entertain ourselves. “Hitler look like a school marm” you say? Personally speaking, a good reprimand from schoolmarm or nanny is what I was brought up to expect. Still brings me to my feet, back erect. Dolf’s got nothing on Nanny.

    “goys are on to you” you say? Couldn’t tell you how right you are. Must’ve spoken with my dear better half, didn’t you?!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  242. @Momus

    Genocide in the middle of a population explosion? Gaza’s population is growing mightily: 3% a year.

    Since when did population growth refute the truth of a continuing attempt at genocide? If overall Amerind population increases, while one Amerind tribe, the Bororo, is killed-off, was there or was there not a genocide? In the vernacular, in the way in which the word is bandied about by various interest groups, you betcha there was. (FYI, the Bororo are a real South American tribe — what’s left of it.)

    As one pundit remarked recently, “The screams of firebombed Palestinian children puts a smile on Jesus’ face.”

    That’s YOU, Momus-bob-boy. Baby-killing Nazi. Jesus as killer.

  243. @Momus

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history…

    We must be talking about the tens of millions of German folk who were brutalized for years, thanks to the Bolshies, international banksters, common Jewish thugs, and French officials during WW1, and for years after the Versailles Extortion Treaty, no?

    [Crackpots] with criminal records and stormy, prize-fighting characters were spirited out of the underworld and given unofficial protection as agents for the establishment of a Rhineland Republic.
    The idea was, by fostering anarchy, to frighten the Germans into acquiescence. Bands of gangsters were conveyed free of charge on French trains to meetings which usually developed into bloody and destructive frays.

    -Arthur Bryant, Unfinished Victory, pp126-7 (1940)

    https://archive.org/stream/ArthurBryantUnfinishedVictory1940V1/Arthur%20Bryant%20-%20Unfinished%20Victory%20%281940%29%20-%20v1_djvu.txt

    Bryant catalogues many other ways that Germans and others were terrorized and starved into submission long after the “peace” treaty..

  244. anon[411] • Disclaimer says:

    Haley reserves her crocodile tears for the fake victims of bogus Syrian gas attacks.

    • Replies: @Hessler
  245. peterAUS says:
    @iffen

    The essential point is that they can’t allow a breach. The cleanup from that would be a colossal PR disaster.

    Agree.

    It would be interesting to see who, exactly, orders the firing (position, rank). Assesses the situation at the spot and orders fire.

    It looks as team/squad leaders can do that. Israeli NCOs.

    Could be wrong.

  246. renfro says:
    @Momus

    Where is the discussion of Jewish power off limits?

    Its always been off limits for politicians and now they are trying to extend it to everyone.
    But….its not gonna work…however much money the Jew men have its not enough to buy all of us.

    Criticize the Israeli Government, Or Criticize Individuals Who Put Israel First Ahead of the U.S., You’re Breaking The Law. Goes Into Effect July 1 — by J

    Never thought I’d see it from a Southern State, but thanks to a Representative in their State Legislature, those citizens of that state are having their 1st Amendment Rights squashed (even though the legislation claims not), if they dare criticize the Israeli Government or the actions of those who put Israel first ahead of the U.S., they are breaking their State law. Those who dare question Israel or question those who put Israel 1st ahead of the U.S., are labeled legally as a law breaker thanks to that particular state legislator.

    What state? South Carolina. Who is the state lawmaker attacking the 1st Amendment? State Representative Alan Clemmons.

    Clemmons initial bill was stalled in the state senate last year, so he attached his bill to the state budget bill of each chamber. South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster supported Clemmons’ proposal, and urged the state senate to pass it. Keep in mind that Clemmon’s bill only lasts for a year, and how far it goes beyond that depends on the outcry by the citizens of South Carolina who were blindsided and muffled by their state legislator and governor.
    Rep. Clemmons’ legislation
    It appears that Representative Clemmons was rewarded like a little puppy getting a rawhide treat, Clemmons was one of those invited to the dedication of the new U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem party last week.
    Let’s examine those particulars that were injected in South Carolina’s budget bill, thanks to Rep. Clemmons:
    a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities;
    calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews; making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as a collective; accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, the state of Israel, or even for acts committed by non-Jews;
    accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust;
    accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interest of their own nations;
    using the symbols and images associated with classic anti-Semitism to characterize Israel or Israelis;
    drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis;
    blaming Israel for all inter-religious or political tensions;
    applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation;
    multilateral organizations focusing on Israel only for peace or human rights investigations;
    denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, and denying Israel the right to exist, provided, however, that criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic.
    (C) South Carolina public colleges and universities shall take into consideration the definition of anti-Semitism for purposes of determining whether the alleged practice was motivated by anti-Semitic intent when reviewing, investigating, or deciding whether there has been a violation of a college or university policy prohibiting discriminatory practices on the basis of religion.
    (D) Nothing in this proviso may be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States or Section 2, Article I of the South Carolina Constitution, 1895.
    How cannot such a piece of legislation I have to ask Rep. Clemmons not infringe on the 1st Amendment rights of his states’ citizens? To dare to criticize the Nazi policies of the State Israel, is considered illegal by his bill. Doesn’t such infringe on the 1st Amendment of both the U.S. and South Carolina?
    So to the 64 dollar conundrum, which other U.S. States will follow South Carolina’s actions?
    The bar is now open for drinks and discussion.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Momus
  247. renfro says:
    @renfro

    Here’s Clemmons twitter which is totally promoting Israel and nothing else.
    And a newspaper article about his ‘national political ambitions’ that he thinks jewish money and support will secure for him.

    https://twitter.com/repalanclemmons?lang=en

    https://www.postandcourier.com/news/myrtle-beach-lawmaker-alan-clemmons-a-mormon-gains-a-national/article_2b42d68e-131d-11e7-8329-d72b08a364a1.html

  248. What did Iran do to us again? Syria? N Korea?
    are they the ones that machine gunned those American sailors aboard the USS Liberty?
    were they the ones who attacked us on 9-11?
    I just can’t remember why I’m supposed to hate Iran… oh yeah AIPAC, those a-holes that meddle in our affairs here in America, they’re Iranian right?
    I bet the Iranians killed JFK too.

    • Replies: @Momus
  249. @Sam Shama

    Maven Sam Shama suggested to Brother Nathanael: “Must’ve spoken with my dear better half, didn’t you?!”

    Uh…, Maven, I see no evidence that Brother Nathanael spoke with your “dear better half,” Incitatus.

  250. @Biff

    What will it take to get the Americans to realize they’ve been duped?

    Americans are like children, they enjoy being duped. They wouldn’t have it any other way.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @MacNucc11
  251. A. P. says:

    Gareth Porter debunks Netanyahu’s “new” old accusations against Iran

  252. @jacques sheete

    Everyone except Vladimir Putin understands it.

  253. @Momus

    Everyone except you, apparently.

  254. @Momus

    You should have treated the American goyim better if you did not want your “plan” to fall apart

    See, Americans are starting to realize that more and more they are being treated like Palestinians, like Arabs. Fighting wars for our “freedom” but having much less freedom every day that passes. Fighting dictators, and bringing their people “democracy” by way of open slave markets.

    This is why no amount of bullshitting will on the goyim from this point on, they can see your actions here at home now. So they know Israel is the problem over there, the aggressor because now they can see it first hand. We know that our “government” and those controlling them are the problem here at home, because of these actions. You can’t change that, its reality, whether you approve of it or not.

    Americans should have seen it immediately after 9/11, when Bush and the “neocons” that controlled him, started wiping their ass with our Constitution. It took a while, but your time is up now. No amount of sock puppetry, fake news, censorship, porn star or “deep state” distractions, holocaust guilt trips none of it will work anymore. You’re doing the same thing to us. Murdering all of those Christians over there didn’t help your cause here in America either. The sudden panic to disarm law abiding Americans, why is that? What you so worried about? Easier to kill and control people that are only armed with rocks isn’t it you spineless coward?

    You’re only fooling yourselves at this point.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  255. Momus says:
    @renfro

    That legislation sounds like standard race hate and vilification law practised across the West.
    Unusual that it is so specific.

    I imagine a particular incident was the reason, or something to do with BDS?

    • Replies: @renfro
  256. @turtle

    As we know, killing is relatively easy.
    However, corpse disposal can be a major problem.
    Liquidation of the entire population of KzL Gaza would require the disposal of ~2,000,000 bodies.

    Well now, ain’t it a shame the Nazis failed to provide a single clue as to how they went about killing and disposing of 6 million Jews without leaving a trace of remains.

    • Replies: @Momus
  257. Momus says:
    @redmudhooch

    You’ve been smoking too much of that hooch. Put down the bong.

    Remember the Embassy hostages? What about the hundred of US soldiers killed in Iraq by Iranian weapon factory produced IED’s?

    You like hearing ‘Death To America’ chants?

    • Replies: @Hessler
    , @dcite
    , @FLgeezer
  258. @jacques sheete

    Iran is strong enough to keep Israel at bay. But that’s not saying much since Hezbollah forces in Lebanon has them scared shitless.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  259. @Momus

    That’s funny. The Holy Bible (also compiled by Jews) once held the same judicial notice status as the holohoax until after it was proven to contain hundreds of tall tales on the same level with Cinderella and Jack & the Beanstalk..

  260. @forgottenpseudonym

    It don’t happen on the borders of any civilized country on earth. Jewish control over virtually the entire developed world’s financial systems (including the US) is the only reason their uncivilized conduct is allowed to continue.

  261. Incitatus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    It is quite clear why Hitler sent jews to concentration camps.
    In a 1939 speech he threatened them that ‘should they again cause a world war, they themselves ran the chance of being ausgerottet’. Ausgerottet at the time was not genocide, but ‘weeding out’.

    Jilles, did Jews order the invasion of Poland 1 Sep 1939? Did Poles?

    Wind back the clock to 16 Sep 1919 – Adolf Hitler, graduate of the army propaganda course who serves in Karl Mayr’s intelligence department (under District Military Commander General Arnold von Möhl) writes “[Jews cannot be German, the Jew is a] leech upon the peoples of the world and from that follows [the end-goal of] rational anti-Semitism must be, without any compromise, the removal of the Jews” in a letter to Gemlich. Bear in mind, Adolf wasn’t German. Yet here he’s preaching disenfranchisement of German Jews. Why? Some were in the very Bavarian regiment in which he served. Let’s see. 1919. The German General Staff (Adolf’s employer) seeks to excuse starting and losing a war by scapegoat? It was everybody else’s (Jews, France, Freemasons, Civilians) fault? Whad’ya think?

    Jilles, you preach about what true Germans should feel. Easy for a Dutch economist (state-employee with a pension and health benefits?). Ready to pick up a gun and invade neighbors like Wilhelm II and Adolf required in 1914 and again in 1939? Was it easier for Dutch Nazis like you, sitting on the sidelines? Easier than the poor Germans you try to raise, once again, to Aryan pride? News: they’re dead, and their survivors know better. Why not concentrate on Gouda and tulips (how’s the crop this year?).

    “The Kaiser never wanted war, Hitler never wanted war.”

    Why did they pull the trigger?

    WW1: Austria-Hungary issues the first declaration of war [28 Jul on Serbia]; Germany the second [1 Aug on Russia]; Austria-Hungary launches the first offensive [shelling Belgrade 29 Jul]; Germany the second [invasion of Luxembourg 2 Aug]. First declarations of war, first offensives.

    WW2: Hitler, ignoring territorial guarantees by the UK and France, and the 1934 Deutsch-polnischer Nichtangriffspakt, invades Poland without declaring war 1 Sep 1939.

    Text from the Wilhelm II and from Hitler – direct quotes – implicate each in the cold-blooded planning and launching of world war that killed millions. Happy to provide both, though you – profligate title dropper on Unz – must know them. Why do you lie?

    I’m glad you traveled to the US on vacation, sad you found it so deficient. The new world is not a place for little souls who (on a state pension) exercise schoolteacher disproval while risking nothing other than pompous dignity. All while spewing manure that got millions of Germans killed in the 20C. Put it this way, Jilles. Want to revisit the grand old WW2 and WW1 days? Suit up, raise a regiment in the Netherlands, and invade a neighbor.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @CalDre
    , @iffen
  262. Momus says:
    @Carroll Price

    There are countless documented mass grave sites where Jews were killed by Nazis. Many have been exhumed and the identity of each of the victims established.

    You make your commenting character sound inordinately stupid with remarks to the effect that no remains exist.

    • Replies: @CalDre
    , @Carroll Price
  263. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Per the Encyclopedia Britannica, the Philistines are a group of people who arrived in the Levant around 12th century B.C. They occupied a region from present day Tel Aviv to Gaza. Later the Greeks referred to the whole region as Palestine. They conquered the Canaanites.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Philistine-people

    More interesting stuff from LiveScience:

    https://www.livescience.com/55429-philistines.html

    The reliability of the texts that refer to them is another issue that scholars encounter. Many of the surviving ancient texts come from the Hebrew Bible. The stories told in the Hebrew Bible claim that the Philistines were often in conflict with King David, a ruler who supposedly controlled a powerful Israelite kingdom around 3,000 years ago. However, research by a number of archaeologists, including Israel Finkelstein, a professor at Tel Aviv University, has found that there is little archaeological evidence that a powerful Israelite kingdom led by a king named David existed.

    Jerusalem, which was supposed to be King David’s capital, appears to have been sparsely populated around 3,000 years ago, Finkelstein says.

    “Over a century of archaeological explorations in Jerusalem — the capital of the glamorous biblical United Monarchy — failed to reveal evidence for any meaningful 10th-century building activity,” wrote Finkelstein in a paper published in 2010 in the book “One God? One Cult? One Nation: Archaeological and Biblical Perspectives” (De Gruyter, 2010).

    Finkelstein says that if a united Israelite kingdom did exist 3,000 years ago it likely would have been a small entity, located in the highlands — away from the Mediterranean coast.

    • Replies: @renfro
  264. renfro says:
    @Momus

    There was no incident. I know Alan Clemmons or of him , he has had a Israeli flag flying in front of his business office for years.
    He’s in the Israeli circle for the money and his ambition to get elected to Washington.
    Just another swamp creature.

  265. renfro says:
    @anon

    Finkelstein says that if a united Israelite kingdom did exist 3,000 years ago it likely would have been a small entity, located in the highlands — away from the Mediterranean coast.

    Egyptians records don’t even mention Israel except as a ‘outpost’ inhabited by Hebrews…..they referred to it a outpost because it wasn’t any large built up settlement and was used off and on by both Egyptians and Romans as a station for their soldiers.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  266. @renfro

    Archeologist, a dangerous occupation in Israel.
    Hardly anything was ever dug up that confirms the biblical stories, on the contrary.
    Amy Dockser Marcus, ‘The view from Nebo, How archeology is rewriting the bible and reshaping the Middle East’, Boston, 2000

  267. CalDre says:
    @peterAUS

    That’s all good and well to write as a Hasbara.

    But what if the Palestinians murdered every Jew entering the West Bank? They are actually entering, not just approaching. You would laud their moral rectitude?

    Oh, right, Jews are Gods and the Palestinian animals don’t have the same rights in the Jew supremacist Hasbara book.

    “One million Palestinians are not worth a single Jewish fingernail”, right, Hasbara?

    • Replies: @Hessler
  268. CalDre says:
    @Momus

    Countless mass graves? Name 10 of them. And not of dead partisans, most of whom happened to be Jewish, so they could sit in the back and order their Slav(e)s to fight for world domination for them.

    In any event Carroll wasn’t referring to summary executions, but to the Holohoax gassing myth.

    • Replies: @Momus
  269. CalDre says:
    @Incitatus

    Jilles, did Jews order the invasion of Poland 1 Sep 1939? Did Poles?

    Let’s say there were a number of provocations, starting with the the theft of West Prussia, and continuing through the numerous anti-German pogroms conducted against the Germans who lived there, despite recurring and most earnest German protests. If there is such a thing as justified war, this was it.

    Bear in mind, Adolf wasn’t German.

    In what sense? He wasn’t born in the German border but in an Austrian border town, which for a long period was part of Bavaria, populated by Germanic folks? And Hitler fought in the German Army. So, by what means wasn’t he German? Do you imagine an American Jew can speak about Palestinian rights in Israel and Jerusalem?

    Whad’ya think?

    Obviously Jews were very intimately and profoundly involved in Germany’s defeat in WW I. Read Mein Kampf, a lot about that in there.

    WW2: Hitler, ignoring territorial guarantees by the UK and France

    Which UK and France had no business making, and which they did not have to enforce. In fact, they didn’t enforce it against USSR, which invaded Poland, without declaring war and despite a peace treaty, two weeks later. Indeed, at the end of the war, France and UK handed all of Poland to Stalin on a silver platter. Nice “territorial guarantee”, what? Maybe it was really about something else. Hmmmm. Well you’d have to escape your Pavlovian conditioning to see it, probably not a likely occurrence.

    implicate each in the cold-blooded planning and launching of world war that killed millions

    No need to get into WW I, though that was a war caused by, and fought against, UK’s Global Empire, whatever the trigger may have been (much like the US today reserves the right to rule the world, which will also, inevitably, lead to a World War by those sick of US evil and arrogance), let’s look at WW II. When did it start? Well, when UK and France declared war against Germany. Before that it was just Germany and Poland fighting, a neighborly battle that has occurred thousands of times in European history. But UK’s global Communist Empire made the war a “World War”.

    Care to reach the evil, cold-blooded machinations of the French and Brits as they, once again, dragged the world into a World War?

    millions of Germans killed in the 20C

    It is a fact the Jews and Brits won, and continue to rule the world. And they are just as evil as they have ever been. Just as violent – ever notice how virtually every war in the wold involves one of these two Imperial Beasts? Sometimes they use their US puppet as the bully with the bomb, but at the end of the day, it’s just a puppet whose people have no voice whatsoever.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  270. CalDre says:
    @jilles dykstra

    [The Protocols are] copied from a nineteenth century novel by Hermann Goedsche (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.

    Now for that, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. There are some similarities, of course. Just like Saturn is similar to Mars. But that does mean Saturn is a copy of Mars. Do you comprehend the distinction? From what you wrote in your post, I doubt it, but it’s worth checking :).

    The Russians used big chunks of a Russian translation of Goedsche’s novel, published it separately as the Protocols, and claimed they were authentic. Their purpose was political: to strengthen the czar Nicholas II’s position by exposing his opponents as allies with those who were part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world.

    Amazing how people will use facts to their advantage, isn’t it? But none of that proves they are “fake”.

    The Protocols were exposed as a forgery by Lucien Wolf in The Jewish Bogey and the Forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (London: Press Committee of the Jewish Board of Deputies, 1920).

    They weren’t exposed as anything. All the arguments made against the Protocols are the same, lame, irrelevant points you made in your posts. None whatsoever even to the slightest degree proves they are fake or a forgery. What it might prove more logically is that the conspiracy was leaked more than once, and the initial discoverers maybe did not realize it was genuine, and used it in a work of fiction, or the initial discoverers feared for their lives in publishing the real thing, so they turned it against the French Republic in a novel.

    Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.

    Utter hogwash. If the Nazis had attempted to “exterminate the Jews” they would have succeeded. After all, they were in concentration camps. It would have been as easy as not feeding them, or putting poison in their food, or shooting them. Germans managed to kill millions of heavily armed Red Soldiers in the wild in very disadvantageous conditions, you think they were incapable of killing fish in a barrel? You historical liars are utterly amusing.

    Even if the protocols describe what is happening, they still are fake

    It’s not just that they describe what is happening – no, no, no. It’s that the Jews have very much lead roles in all of what they describe that is happening. The odds of a coincidence are somewhere around 100, trillion to 1. I’ll take that as beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The Protocols really don’t say anything that is not already in the Torah and Talmud. At least, in terms of the concept that Jews are the “chosen ones” who will rule the world under their Messiah. Protocols are just more detailed in a political manner.

    Also interesting is the regular use of the term “forgery” in the Protocols critiques. A forgery is something that is not an original. I will concede that the copy found in the hotel room was not an original, but a copy. It wasn’t signed. But that’s it. You don’t need the original, because, as noted above (in terms of subsequent events and who is at their forefront, the Protocols are entirely and overwhelmingly self-authenticating.

  271. CalDre says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    The Six Million Man Myth runneth long and wide:

  272. Caruthers says:
    @Momus

    Holocaust denial laws are no different from the multitudinous blasphemy laws of the past, and are justified with the fallacious slogans: they serve a necessary societal function, etc.

  273. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Verbose, gyrating dribbling by a non-German in 2018 purporting to explain how the Jews got what they deserved (except they didn’t really get it) do not count.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  274. Caruthers says:
    @llloyd

    The Gazans were forcibly expelled from lands their families had inhabited for centuries, and then forcibly quarantined for decades in a vast ghetto, a vast concentration camp, along with their children, and their children’s children, all for the crime of being of the wrong race, for the crime of having the wrong non-Jewish ancestry.

    The solution is to end the racist military blockade and allow them the same rights and freedoms as all others in historic Palestine.

    • Replies: @Momus
  275. @Carroll Price

    Iran is strong enough to keep Israel at bay.

    I doubt it’s strong enough to keep the US from bombing the s&!t out of them when the Izzies tell Trump to jump.

    Probably their main strength is their potential threat to the shipping lanes. Gasoline prices are already up probably on the mere threat of escalation. Parenthetically, that’s another reason why they’ll likely be maintained as a bogeyman; it gives the money bags an excuse to raise the price of oil which has been too low too long (probably held down to squeeze Russia, but who knows?).

    For me, the bottom line is that they are no threat to anyone, least of all the US as PG points out, and therefore “we” need to mind our own flippin business and leave those folks alone particularly since we have more than enough problems that need to be dealt with right here at home.

    It’s classic Zio and neocon behavior to bully people then blame them for initiating conflict and accusing them of being a threat. Their political “kin” even pulled that off by blaming utterly prostrate Germany while buying up the place for next to nothing. Enough of that crap already.

    Check this…

    [MORE]

    During the years that immediately followed the Inflation, when German trade, freed from every prior charge, was temporarily booming and when foreign money, seeking an outlet from more fortunate lands, poured in the shape of loans into the Republic, the Jews obtained a wonderful ascendancy in politics, business and the learned professions. Though there were little more than half a million of them living in the midst of a people of sixty-two millions — less, that is, than one per cent of the population — their control of the national wealth and power soon lost all relation to their numbers. In the 1924 Reichstag nearly a quarter of the Social Democratic representatives were Jews. Every post-war Ministry had its quota of them. In business, according to figures published in 1931 by a Jewish statistician, they controlled 57 per cent of the metal trade, 22 per cent of the grain and 39 per cent of the textile. Of 98 members of the Berlin Chamber of Commerce and Industry, 50, or more than half, were Jewish, and of the 1474 of the Stock Exchange in 1930 no less than 1200. Twelve out of sixteen of the Committee of the Berlin Commodity Exchange were Jews and ten out of twelve of the Metal Exchange.

    The banks, including the Reichsbank and the big private banks, were practically controlled by them. So were the publishing trade, the cinema, the theatres and a large part of the Press — all the normal means, in fact, by which public opinion in a civilised country is formed. In 1931, of 29 theatres in Berlin 23 had Jewish directors. The largest newspaper combine in the country with a daily circulation of four millions was a Jewish monopoly. So virtually were the Press Departments of the Prussian administration. At one period of the Republic’s history, as Mr. Mowrer pointed out, a telephone conversation between three Jews in Ministerial Offices could effect the suspension of any newspaper in the State. 1 It was a power that was frequently used.

    -Arthur Bryant, Unfinished Victory, pp. 139-40, (1940)

    https://archive.org/stream/ArthurBryantUnfinishedVictory1940V1/Arthur%20Bryant%20-%20Unfinished%20Victory%20%281940%29%20-%20v1_djvu.txt

    The point is that Germany was starved and looted after WW1 by certain elements of the big money crowd.

    Does any of the above have a familiar ring?

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @geokat62
  276. Tyrion 2 says:
    @redmudhooch

    The vast majority of Americans correctly think you’re nuts.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  277. @Momus

    The relatively small number of graves found at or near any of the so-called death camps are easily accounted for by the approximate number of deaths that would occur as a result of accidents, sicknesses (typhus in particular) and old age where any large number of people are confined for any length of time. Nice try, but the 6 million myth is a $6 trillion dollar rip-off that I suspect you are well aware of.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Momus
  278. @CalDre

    Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.

    Utter hogwash.

    It is utter hogwash., and one would think that well read European jyles would have a clue as to what Hitler was about and what Germany was subjected to at the time.

    This book seems to do an excellent job of putting the times into perspective, Unfinished Victory by Arthur Bryant.

    or https://archive.org/stream/ArthurBryantUnfinishedVictory1940V1/Arthur%20Bryant%20-%20Unfinished%20Victory%20%281940%29%20-%20v1_djvu.txt

    Start with Chapter 3 if yer pressed for time.

    I find it interesting that almost all of it would come as a huge surprise to most Americans, yet most Americans can identify with the way things played out. Simply stated, Germany was under the gangster bootheel of some of the money bag crowd. Germany was infested with the scum and we ‘Merkins are now living under very similar conditions.

    • Replies: @Momus
  279. @SolontoCroesus

    Unz needs to add a BOP tab at the bottom of each comment (best of post).

  280. @Momus

    There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    Mountains of lies.

    Try again.

    • LOL: Hessler
  281. Israel’s depletion of bullets would be akin to believing the US military might temporarily run out of bombs, or the Monopoly money to purchase them. Won’t happen–at least not until the end of days.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  282. @Tyrion 2

    The vast majority of Americans correctly think you’re nuts.

    Well, I correctly believe that the vast majority of Americans seem not only nuts themselves, but stupid too. Anyway I’d like to know your sources for that info.

    Meanwhile people with a clue think yer stupid. Probably nuts too.

    No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.

    -H.L. Mencken, ‘Notes On Journalism’ in the Chicago Tribune (19 September 1926)

    He would no doubt have found similar results had he researched the mental health of the masses.

    • Agree: L.K
  283. @Sam Shama

    Why the insults? “Jewy Jew”, “Jewish Devil”, etc.

    They’ve been called far worse, and for damned good reason, so you’d best shut-the-hell up and appreciate the good times and free ride you’re having right now.

    As I recall from Sunday School class, the Palestinian prophet, Jesus of Nazareth had some choice words for you self-appointed chosen people.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  284. RVBlake says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Interesting. I went to Wikipedia to read about Gen. Schultze-Rhonhof, having never heard of him. This led me to Udo Walendy, a German publisher and colleague of the general, who has encountered difficulties in his country due to his questioning of the Holocaust. In 1999, he served 15 months in prison for publicly questioning the Holocaust.

  285. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    Incitatus, H. Arendt says in Eichmann that the Germans had euthanasia teams operating in the East that killed wounded German soldiers. I have read about mercy killings of suffering, fatally wounded soldiers, but not a routine operation to dispose of ordinary wounded. Have you read on the subject?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Incitatus
  286. geokat62 says:
    @jacques sheete

    … it gives the money bags an excuse to raise the price of oil which has been too low too long (probably held down to squeeze Russia, but who knows?).

    Conrad Black knows, jacques. Here’s an excerpt from Conrad Black: The Saudis Fear Western Alliance With Iran; Crashing Oil Is Their Retaliation (Authored by Conrad Black via The National Post):

    Al-Badri’s flimflam, for which there is much precedent in the history of OPEC (essentially, the cartel is a perpetual quarrel among thieves pretending to be price-fixing), naturally seeks to disguise the fact that Saudi Arabia is trying to discourage the use of Iranian and Russian oil revenues to prop up the blood-stained and beleaguered Assad regime in Damascus, to finance Iran’s nuclear military program, and to incite the continuing outrages of Hezbollah and Hamas in Lebanon and the Palestinian Territories against Israel.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-21/conrad-black-saudis-fear-western-alliance-iran-crashing-oil-their-retaliation

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  287. @Thomas Malthaus

    According to this article, the US is indeed running out of bombs. Which, at the rate they’re shooting and dropping them, should surprise no one.

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/12/06/us-air-force-running-out-of-bombs-to-fight-isis.html

  288. Momus says:
    @CalDre

    Gassings are proven beyond any doubt. They are judicial note across western courts- meaning they are common knowledge.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @CalDre
  289. Momus says:
    @Caruthers

    The Israelis are very keen to do that; keeping their people safe from the murderous arseholes is expensive.

    Unfortunately the Gazans are bereft of leadership and are perpetuating and exacerbating their problem.

  290. Hessler says:
    @Art

    Agree 100%

    and don’t forget they lie about koran too that it doesn’t mention Al Quds a.k.a Jerusalem. A jew posted the same argument at me thinking that no one here has ever read the koran and as usual my response to his argument was neglected.

    http://www.unz.com/article/jews-baptize-new-american-embassy-with-palestinian-blood-58-dead-and-2700-wounded/#comment-2338728

  291. Gassings are proven beyond any doubt. They are judicial note across western courts- meaning they are common knowledge.

    Benthos, Baby. Benthos.

  292. Momus says:
    @Carroll Price

    Benthos Carroll, with Wally at the bottom of the eco system in the dark, feeding on the 60 tonne whale fall and waste that filters down.
    There were many massacres of Jews away from the camps. The investigation of these village killings is straightforward and conclusive.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Carroll Price
  293. @CalDre

    Simon Newman, ´March 1939, The British guarantee to Poland, A study in the continuity of British Foreign Policy’, 1976, Oxford
    Lawrence R. Pratt, ‘East of Malta, West of Suez’, London, 1975
    Comte Jean Szembek, Ancien sous-secrétaire d’État aux Affaires étrangères de Pologne, ‘Journal, 1933 – 1939’, Paris 1952
    A. von Ribbentrop, ´Deutsch-Englische Geheimverbindungen, Britische Dokumente der Jahre 1938 und 1939 im Lichte des Kriegsschuldfrage’, Tübingen 1967
    Leonard Mosley, ‘The Reich Marshall, A Biography of Hermann Goering’, London 1974
    Günter Grass, ‘Beim Häuten der Zwiebel’, München 2008
    Grass lived in Danzig.
    Helmuth Fechner, ´Deutschland und Polen, 1772 – 1945’, Würzburg 1964

    For me, these books together make it crystal clear.
    Poland went to the allied side, in the hope that in case of war their troops could take Berlin in a few days, as they expected the Hitler regime to collapse.
    Plan B was a greater Poland after the war.
    Goering did anything to prevent war.
    Hitler did want Danzig, and a corridor through the Korridor to E Prussia, and he wanted to answer the provocations, and the discrimination of Germans in Poland.
    Britain panicked in giving the guarantees, not just to Poland.
    Poland was convinced it had to take sides, the Polish divisions were after a war in which Poland had remained neutral.
    What is not mentioned in the books is the guarantee FDR is supposed to have given to Poland in August, for this the only evidence is what Hoggan tells us Bullitt told him after the war.

  294. deschutes says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    Great post. The PeterAUS seems quite like a hasbara troll, methinks. You gave him the smackdown he so thoroughly deserved. Kudos.

  295. Hessler says:
    @Iris

    Thanks for the video Iris.

    Just want to expand a little on your post. The people with infinite hate for the Arabs/Muslims, completely deprived of morality and introspection and with fabricated divine status of muslims like merely animals, anyone expects Jews to behave in any other way is delusional and loaded.

  296. Momus says:
    @jacques sheete

    So tell us how deservedly tough WW1 reparations justified the Nazi attempt at a Jewish genocide?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  297. @Momus

    Sure.
    Therefore Poliakov writes, based on Neurenberg evidence, that the gassings were in cellars, and that the installations were blown up at the end of 1944.
    There is a small problem, what do tourists now see in Birkenau ?
    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris

    • Replies: @Momus
  298. deschutes says:
    @peterAUS

    You act as if your cherry picked vids to suit your pro-zionist pro-Israeli viewpoint justify killing 63 Palestinians and gravely injuring thousands more in one day alone? It never fails, there is always some nutcase like you under articles like these spouting self-pitying hasbara bullshit. You suck dude. Only really stupid people or zionists would agree with your horseshit.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  299. @CalDre

    I copied an article that convinced me.
    Other ideas of course are possible.
    But this article is consistent by other writings, that I did not store.

  300. Hessler says:
    @anon

    If you wanna know how the worst of our kind are, Haley is a fine contender. She aboviously doesn’t share the “Jewish Agenda” of racial superiority. She is in it for the advancement of her career. As a compensation she sold out her soul to the lucifier’s right hand a.k.a The world Jewry.

    She preaches justice, peace ONLY where it fits the “Jewish agenda” rest is all garbage.

  301. @iffen

    Never found anything like that in any book published by a German fighting on the east front.
    On the contrary, Rudel landed his Stuka to help the crew of another Stuka, damaged, that had crash landed.
    He then was unable to start, wheels sunk in the mud.
    He made a very hazardous escape from behind Russian lines
    He was the German pilot Rusiand most wanted, feared for his tank destruction.
    Hans-Ulrich Rudel, ´Mein Kriegstagebuch, Aufzeichnungen eines Stukafliegers’, 1983, 2006 Dresden

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Miro23
  302. @geokat62

    Hi geokat,

    Thanks for C.B.’s informative article which once again proves Von Clausewitz theories and in this case, how sinister ZUS Empire politics & their having crashed global oil-market value in order to harm Russian economy was an “act of war.”

    To Brothers geokat & Jacques Sheete:

    F.y.i., below I link an educational article from the left-wing, “The Nation,” written by Trita Parsi.

    In order to complete the JCOPA deal, Parsi let’s on an obscure fact that the Obama administration had little choice but to permit the Iranians to enrich uranium under the Non-Proliferation Treaty which of course nuclear weapon power, Israel, squirmed out.

    Consequently, Trita Parsi insightfully wrote, “The Obama administration also planted the seed of the right-wing narrative that Trump is now using.” Refer to article, below.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/why-abandoning-the-iran-nuke-deal-is-likely-to-lead-to-war/

    P.S. (Zigh) I dig how some well meaning writers, even by accident, reveal how united ZUS presidential administrations, be they either Democrat (Left) or GOP (Right), plant GMO “seeds” for each other to nourish & harvest the fruit for Israel’s benefit.

  303. Momus says:
    @Carroll Price

    6 million is your contention.

    I know beyond any doubt that the Nazis embarked on a plan to systematically exterminate European Jews.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  304. Momus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Gassings took place in ad hoc facilities for sure; converted dwellings early on. The majority were killed in disguised, purpose designed gassing facilites.

  305. @Momus

    Point one, explain that there was an attempt at genocide.
    There was the Madagaskar plan, concentrating jews in camps, deporting them to Madagaskar after the war.
    The reparations had nothing to do with it, just Hitler’s conviction that jews had again started a world war, his speech in 1939.
    He then treatened them with ausrottung, a word that at the time had as main translation ‘weeding out’.
    Why people died in camps I now have explained many times, the camps had self management, one finds this in any book written by an inmate who survived, if the book is read attentively.
    The management ate well, up to 3500 kcal a day, the others got some 1100 a day.
    This leads to death after six months, unless food packets were received from outside.
    At the beginning of 1945 the misery increased hugely, allied fighter bombers prevented any transport, so no food at all to the camps, also Zyklon B vor delousing clothes no longer came, so for example Anne Frank died of typhoid.
    There are descriptions of German camp commanders desperately seeking food.
    I see no point is again quoting the books on which my conclusions are based.

    • Replies: @Momus
  306. Hessler says:
    @Momus

    ‘Death To America’ is another spin of reality by the lucefarian tribe. The actual translation would be “Down with America”

    The more you bring up. The more it’s cleared and shared. Keep shooting yourselve in the foot. The smart guys eh?

    Also, those Americans died in Iraq went their on initation by the Iraqi people who either held nothing against them or they simply didn’t have any ability to carry out attacks to the soldiers of a nation who not only attacted them on the false pretext for the expansion of the tribal state that has waged war against their faith and against their entire civilization but also carried out henious acts of terror and suffering.

    All those people died in the Amrican civil war was also Iranian doing. Don’cha ya think sport ?

  307. @Momus

    I suppose the kind of knowledge for which there is no proof ?

    • Replies: @Momus
  308. Hessler says:
    @CalDre

    You nailed it Cal.

    • Replies: @Momus
  309. Hessler says:
    @Sam Shama

    I can sense some serious butt Hurt here LOLOL

    • Replies: @Anon
  310. @RVBlake

    Glad you dug a little deeper, RVBlake, and welcome to UnzForum.
    Warning, tho: a. it’s habit-forming, and b. hold onto your brain, a lot of things are going to rattle the conventional wisdom-lobe.


    The title of this article rattled my brain: Why did Phil use “Persians”? There are numerous ethnic groups in Iran, of which Persian is just one, and of course, Iran, aka IRI, the Islamic Republic of Iran, is, um, Islamic.

    In my opinion, at their core, Iranians are Persian; Persian culture, based on Zoroaster, is what bonds the Iranian people. While USA has numerous battlefield sites, and an uncivil war is raging over which military leader’s statue may or may not stand in US cities,* Iran is dotted with shrines and memorials to Persian poets and cultural icons: in Shiraz, the City of Poets and Roses, people spend their lunch-hour and after-work leisure spreading their carpets near the monument to Hafez

    http://life.toiran.com/?p=626

    Phil wrote that he was in “Mashad and Tehran” at the International conference organized by New Horizon.

    Tehran is the largest city in Iran (and one of the largest cities in the world). According to Iran Chamber http://www.iranchamber.com/cities/tehran/tehran.php the name, Tehran, was first used in the tenth century.
    Here’s an interesting factoid I found on http://www.livius.org/articles/place/rhagae/

    Rhagae is situated on a very ancient road. It started in Babylonia, went through Ecbatana to Rhagae (Tehrân), and from there through Parthia to Susia (Tus near Mashad), where it divided. Its northern branch was to become known as the Silk road: it went through the Karakum desert to Margiana (Mary or Merv) and Bactra (Balkh, near modern Mazâr-e Sharîf). From there, the road went across the Pamirs and continued to China. The southern branch went through Aria, Arachosia, and from there to the Indus valley.

    For centuries, traders have passed along these roads and visited Rhagae, where they could choose between three roads across the Elburz mountains to the Caspian Sea. The excavations at Chesmeh Ali, a part of modern Reyy, have shown that people were already living there in the Early Bronze Age.

    This intrigued me because when I tried to find out more about “Rhagae,” up popped Rhagaer, white-haired Prince in the Game of Thrones. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Rhaegar_Targaryen
    Maybe everybody else in the world knows this (I’ve never played GoT) — that there are probably extensive references to the Persian empire and Shahnameh, the Persian epic, in GoT. For example, because Prince Zal was albino (i.e. white-haired Rhaegar), he was rejected by his father but saved by the bird, Simorgh, who raised him and promised to always protect Zal — a promise Simorgh kept. Bird images are everywhere in Persian iconography and literature. sorry about the digression

    Mashad is Iran’s most strictly-observant city and home to the Shrine to Shi’ite martyr Imam Reza. https://sacredsites.com/middle_east/iran/mashhad.html

    https://www.molon.de/galleries/Iran/Mashhad/Shrine/img.php?pic=2

    So RobinG’s question @ 123 https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/among-the-persians/#comment-2340450 is extremely important —

    How did Iran go from a Persian monarchy to an Islamic Republic in 1979?

    How did Iran go from Tehran to Mashad?

    Where is the locus of the Iranian people — Tehran, or Mashad, or both?

    Is there a relationship to the situation of the American people and their loci of control/loyalty — New York-LosAngeles-DC vs Flyover country?

    PLEASE PLEASE do not divert from the question- and time period: YES, we know about 1953.
    DO NOT RESPOND with references to CIA involvement in overthrow of Mossadeqh. You will be consigned to play with iffen and Momus in a sandbox the cats discovered last night.

    Here’s RobinG’s original question:

    What do you know about the assertion that US/UK, (CIA, along with MI6, et al), not only installed the Shah in 1953, but, finding him no longer suitable, facilitated . . . Shah Reza Pahlavi’s . . . removal in 1978-79?

    RobinG referred to a discussion on Mike Whitney’s article; was Robin referring to this comment?

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/did-trump-scrap-the-nukes-deal-to-pay-back-his-pro-israel-campaign-donors/#comment-2326771

    George H W Bush selected Khomeini and maneuvered him into power.
    GHWB, Pissed at Carter for removing him from CIA chiefdom – fiefdom, retained his contacts. And knew, before Carter, that Shah was dying. GHWB foresaw the succession situation & planned for it. He selected a charismatic Muslim on the concept that such a leader could/would control a dynamic population that might otherwise embrace Communists.

    Anybody have any sources/references/wisdom to contribute?

    *Interesting factoid: the Islamic government grossly neglects to the point of destruction several of Iran’s ‘secular’ Persian historic sites, including Pasargadae and the site of Shah Pahlavi’s lavish 2000 anniversary bash.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
    , @RobinG
    , @iffen
  311. Momus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    At one point there was a suggestion to make a Jewish homeland on the Kimberley coast of North West Australia.

    Your suggestion that concentration camps were self managed is a mental illness grade delusion. The camps were run by the SS.

  312. @RVBlake

    Gerd Schultze- Rhonhof, ´1939, Der Krieg, der viele Väter hatte, Der lange Anlauf zum Zweiten Weltkrieg’, München 2003, 2006
    ‘The war that had many fathers, the long road to WWII’.
    He had a high position in the German army, was fired immediately.
    Great country for human rights, Germany, of Germans.
    Any dissident is destroyed immediately, not ‘politisch korrekt’ is not allowed.
    There are many others, Hohmann, Sarrazin.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  313. Momus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Mountains of proof mate. Complete buildings testify.

    Problem for benthos like you is it is very dark with little O2.

  314. Momus says:
    @Hessler

    Nailed it? He belted his thumb a beauty.

  315. @Momus

    Such as the Höss do it yourself installations ?
    Do you really think that the efficient Germans, had they wanted to exterminate millions, would it have done it in such primitive ways as the stories tell us ?
    Would they have allowed any witness ?
    A plant for mass industrialised killing is not difficult to envisage, with no remains whatsoever.
    Just think about any present animal slaughter installations.
    Temple Grandin, ‘Thinking in Pictures and other reports from my life with autism’, New York 1995, she’s expert on slaughter houses.
    Germans constructed the VII rocket, do you think them incapable of efficient mass killing ?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Momus
    , @anarchyst
  316. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hessler

    I can sense some serious butt Hurt

    We bow to your expertise in such matters.

    • Replies: @Hessler
  317. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    While a marvel of engineering, the V2 was extremely inefficient at mass killing.

  318. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus

    As good a place to start as any would be with General Eisenhower’s contention

    Which is of course irrelevant with respect to Auschwitz, which was liberated by Soviets.

    • Replies: @Momus
  319. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    A perfect reduction of the self-contradictory sauce ["Jews got what they deserved (except they didn’t really get it)"]

    • Replies: @ANON
  320. Sam Shama says:
    @Carroll Price

    I’d have remarked that you are attempting to censor my right to free speech, but on second thoughts I put it down to constipation and plaque clogging your neural pathways. There are natural remedies.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  321. sarz says:
    @L.K

    Gilad knows damn well that the Holocaust story is a crock of shit. But he keeps pushing it as if real. One more time: Please stop stop promoting that lie, Gilad.

  322. RVBlake says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Yes, I was impressed with the general’s courage at going toe-to-toe with the government’s official position regarding WWII. Not usual to see someone with so much to lose showing such moxie. Would that some of our American general and flag officers had the testes to confront criminal enterprises, i. e. Iraq 2003.

  323. RVBlake says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Thank you. I’ve been coming here daily for a month or so now. Had previously commented over on Takimag till the comment section got “disappeared.”

  324. ANON[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    . . . But they DID deserve ‘it’??

  325. dcite says:
    @Momus

    You like hearing ‘Death To America’ chants?

    Hearing such chants from groups in their own countries, after they were bombed by Americans, is something to be expected, but I wouldn’t want to live around it; very stressful. However, in my own country I pay more attention to what various groups do, than what they say. Dual Israeli-American citizenship, especially among people in our government, should be illegal. So should dual Russian or Chinese or Irish. That is so transparently obvious I am always left speechless by the fact it exists. And that’s why it still exists. It makes your eyes glaze over with disbelief.

    • Replies: @Momus
  326. Momus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Just think about any present animal slaughter installations.

    That is one of your more thoughtfull statements eh?

    The meat from these animals ends up being eaten and the skin ends as shoes. Every other part is used. Hardly “no remains whatsoever”

    Moron grade commenter.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  327. Momus says:
    @Anon

    Correct.
    Eisenhower, Patton and Bradley went to Orhdruf.

  328. Momus says:
    @dcite

    America has not bombed Iran. Iran has bombed and killed many Americans.

  329. @Sam Shama

    As habit & from atop Manhattan Mount Nebo, Maven Shama spoke down at Carrol Price, hypocritically said: “I’d have remarked that you are attempting to censor my right to free speech, but on second thoughts I put it down to constipation and plaque clogging your neural pathways. There are natural remedies.”

    Hi Maven, Ph D, X-lax Inducement Specialist,

    Your damaged human (?) brain’s neural pathways are not clogged (constipated) by plaque! Congratulations.

    If such were the case, as you note above, there are supernatural “natural remedies.”Refer to scientific article, linked below.

    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/brain-re-wires-itself-after-damage-246049

    The killer-clog in your brain is caused by willful constipation of neural pathways that connects with the brain part which controls what the late-C.S. Lewis called the “moral code” center, created by Yahweh.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  330. geokat62 says:
    @Momus

    Iran has bombed and killed many Americans.

    Your primary concern for American lives is very touching, indeed. And we have ample evidence to support this. Why I recall how melancholic the Dancing Israelis were when the first plane hit the first twin tower. They were visibly shaken (pun intended) by the loss of 3,000 innocent American lives. Your brethren were equally devastated to learn that just over 5,000 American soldiers have been killed fighting the bogus GWOT to safeguard your brethren residing in the villa in the jungle. I personally witnessed a tear* on the cheeks of Bill Kristol, Richard Perle, Robert Kaganovich et al when they were informed about American loss of life. Rumour has it that these Israel-firsters are experiencing emmense difficulty sleeping at night in light of the significant roles they played pushing for the GWOT that resulted in the loss of American life.

    The wailing and gnashing of teeth hasn’t ceased.

    * it was later confirmed that the tears were those of a crocodile.

    • Replies: @Momus
  331. Hessler says:
    @Anon

    Lol another one.Nice….

    Okay but be sure to make it fast before Karma catches up with you.

    • Replies: @Anon
  332. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hessler

    Okay but be sure to make it fast

    I know you’re eager but that’s not my “scene”. Thanks for the interest I guess.

  333. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    … . . Shah Reza Pahlavi’s . . . removal in 1978-79?

    There were at least 6 interlocutors at the Mike Whitney thread, starting with #5, Anon. Then Mike P’s comment #33 and the Perloff article (of which at first I missed the significant point).

    Of course Perloff, like most people, has his own bias and axe to grind, but he raised good questions. Anon 204 protested, asserting that Iranian support for Khomeini was genuine. Well, what if it was? So what? That doesn’t mean the CIA wasn’t playing its own game.

    Since you brought up Game of Thrones, its popularity is evidence that Americans (some significant portion, anyway) are capable of following a complex story line where multiple factions are maneuvering, realigning, scheming, etc., etc. There’s an epic range of themes, from downright evil to the unintended consequences of good intentions.

    The pundits and media are doing a huge disservice when they discourage understanding by framing [anything] as too complicated. Life is complicated. Are they just misguided, or is there a motive for making us moronic?

  334. sarz says:

    *Interesting factoid: the Islamic government grossly neglects to the point of destruction several of Iran’s ‘secular’ Persian historic sites, including Pasargadae and the site of Shah Pahlavi’s lavish 2000 anniversary bash.

    Not true. I was there last week at both sites. It took quite a while lining up for tickets. That’s where they need more attention, more windows. They were jam-packed with tourists, at least half of them foreigners, mostly European, Japanese and Chinese. No Americans. Major work going on at Persepolis.

    As a rose lover, I was really impressed with the rose planting in every Iranian city. A prolific white floribunda planted in masses particularly caught my eye. I thought of taking one home. Suddenly it occurred to me that this was not a Persian rose, though like all modern roses it probably had some Persian genes. No, this was definitely Moon Dance, an All American Rose Society winner. Well done, America. May you have more wins of the right sort.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @SolontoCroesus
  335. @Momus

    Does anyone else suspect that Momus really believes the alternate version of reality that he/she/it spews?

    We’re told that the “Jew brain” is as successful as it is because it bypasses or defies the logic that ‘ordinary’ persons live by.
    Black Pigeon’s discussion of East v West creativity

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=245&v=et-pIHUUai0

    starts one to thinking that that creativity has made interesting contributions, but it has a downside: it’s a Frankenstein, it has no moderating soul, and if Momus is any example of the phenomenon, it is robotic, unassailable by countervailing arguments.

    There’s a basic notion in Psych 101 that that which has been ‘implanted’ emotionally can be changed by Reason only with great difficulty. In my inexpert understanding, the neurotransmitters between emotion & reason simply do not connect; making that connection requires intensive work.

    It might be that the Jew brain is wired to receive signals ‘emotionally to the nth degree,’ wired directly to centers committed to the pleasure/satisfaction of the Self (i.e. narcissistic) or mirror-of-Self (i.e. tribe), with no connection to a moderating system of logic. Or empathy for the Other.

  336. Momus says:
    @geokat62

    Nobody cares what you think.

    Go and lick some windows clean.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  337. Sam Shama says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Mount Nebo? Hahahaaaa. Yes, I behold the Promised Land!

    Maven Shama merely responded to constipated Carroll’s directive to “shut up”. Maven felt that his FoS was being trodden upon.

    Nonetheless, interesting article you linked, Woodchuck. There may yet be hope for your friends when they gather acorns for the winter.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  338. peterAUS says:
    @deschutes

    You could be right.

    Any chance of you, then, doing what the propagandists, so far, haven’t been able to:

    Could you, please post one link to a video material which clearly shows a murder of a Palestinian protester there?
    C’mon, give it a best shot (pun intended).

    Say, something which would, most likely, put, say, a British soldier in a prison for murder.

    As, say:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44054776

    With all this video coverage (impossible during “Troubles”) that shouldn’t be a problem.

    You call.

    You, just one video. One….1……
    Say, we see it here and, sitting in a jury, say “that was murder”.

    Can’t wait…..

    • Replies: @Anon
  339. iffen says:
    @Momus

    Your suggestion that concentration camps were self managed

    Judenrat operations did not stop at the front gate.

    I call geo a pellet dropper, but most pellet droppers were probably Jews.

  340. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Dribble, dribble, dribble ………

  341. iffen says:
    @sarz

    Not true. I was there last week at both sites.

    Factoids of an accurate and correct nature are a minor detail.

  342. Anon[212] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    This is an IDF video, Watch particularly at 0.3 and onwards. It shows armed Hamas operatives. Most of the killed were Hamas and Islamic Jihad fighters. The story of the little girl is also pure propaganda. What would a toddler or an even younger be doing there?

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @tac
  343. iffen says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Never found anything like that in any book published by a German fighting on the east front.

    Thanks jill, but I wasn’t really interested in ordinary military heroics and exploits. I was inquiring if there might be a “My Time in a Special Detail of the Einsatzgruppen When We Executed Our Brothers.”

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  344. geokat62 says:
    @Momus

    Nobody cares what you think.

    LOL… exactly the quality rebuttal I expected from you.

  345. @Sam Shama

    Maven Shama said:
    “Mount Nebo? Hahahaaaa. Yes, I behold the Promised Land!”

    Hi Maven,

    A question.

    Do fellow NYC Jews like the “serpentine cross” located at the peak of Jordan’s windy Mount Nebo where Joshua is said to have looked upon The Promised Land?

    F.y.i, the cross is remodeled from its former less aesthetic steel-structure which an Israeli modified passenger plane plausibly could have smoked during a strictly ideological False Flag attack.

    Refer to real Mount Nebo photos, below… neither Mave’s Manhattan nor the Mormon Utah ones!

    https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/mount-nebo—jordan?sort=mostpopular&mediatype=photography&phrase=mount%20nebo%20-%20jordan

  346. @sarz

    Tickets you say?

    Well then, you force the realization that it’s been ten years since I was at Pasargadae where there was not only not a dearth of ticket windows, there was no controlled access whatsoever — we drove into a lot, walked freely around the monuments, no guards, no guides, a few signboards explaining the monuments.
    There were serious concerns that the Iranian government was not attending to erosion control and water diversion problems.

    Ten years ago the site of Pahlavi’s 2000th anniversary party was overgrown and observable only from a distance — what we saw was the skeletal framework of the tents.

    It’s good news that the situation has changed to what you report.

    PS iffen — plenty of sandboxes for you and Momus to romp in, but you should know that feral cats have freedom of movement in many places in Iran.

    • Replies: @iffen
  347. renfro says:
    @Momus

    There were many massacres of Jews away from the camps. The investigation of these village killings is straightforward and conclusive.

    How often must you be told how dumb your whining and false statements are?
    Gonna tell you a little secret that most people who follow the US Israeli adventures wont admit.
    We’re becoming “numb’…iow we have seen so much carnage caused by it that while we can still wince at needless deaths of others Jews kill –we have no feelings for Jewish dead then or now.
    The Jews have whined and killed out of the world any sympathy for them.
    If I learned today that Palestines or Hizbollah killed thousands of Israeli Jews I say good riddance they deserved it.
    And I doubt I am alone in that attitude…..so that’s what you’re up against…..more and more people just don’t care about you.
    Your victimhood card has been canceled.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  348. tac says:
    @RobinG

    Here is a partial list of the speakers:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/05/17/jerusalem-al-quds-eternal-capital-of-palestine-conference-in-mashhad-iran/

    Speakers from the New Horison International Conference in Mashad (YouTube uploaded)

    Philip Giraldi:

    Michael Maloof:

    Scott Bennett:

    Sander Hicks:

    • Replies: @tac
    , @RobinG
  349. tac says:
    @tac

    My apologies for the wrong link to Michael Maloof.

    Here is the correct one:

    Michael Maloof:

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  350. RobinG says:
    @tac

    Right. Seems those were all the remarks at the opening session. I wonder if there were other recorded prepared talks, or open discussions. This was a 3-day conference. Here’s what looks like a press conference.

    Iran: US security experts warn against all-out war in Iran

  351. Art says:

    How about we discuss something relevant like “Where is MBS?”

    Kushner’s number one Saudi buddy is missing?

    Hmm?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. How sweet — Israel and Saudi forever — elite Jew, elite Arab forever!

    p.s. The Rothschilds are happy.

  352. tac says:
    @Anon

    nice collage of footage of the protests (during the day) and the ones showing people (could have been Israelis themselves to make it look like Palestinians) placing weapons (at night as is indicative of the night-vision footage).

    Why did they not just shoot them when when they placed those weapons there at night … why not confiscate the weapons shortly thereafter? Why would protesters hide weapons there in the first place, when, and if they wanted to, or had in fact had weapons, did they not just hide them amongst themselves during the protest … could have easily done so with such large number of protesters gathered that day. No, in fact, it is more likely that the Israels place those weapons there and took footage of these scenes for later propaganda use.

    How stupid do you think people are? Come back with more convincing ‘proof’, if you have any … I doubt it however.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  353. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Ten years?

    Why not twelve? Can I get 15? Gimme 15, now 20 , can I get 20? Who will go for 25?

    Ignorant dipwad.

  354. anarchyst says:
    @jilles dykstra

    I have posted this on other sites…apologies to those who have seen it already:

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    [MORE]

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified. German jews considered themselves Germans first and had no desire to emigrate.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. Many periodicals of the day starting with the 1800s touted the “six-million” figure.

    What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    As cremation of ONE human body takes hours, the amount of time claimed by holocaust ™ promoters is a physical, scientific and statistical impossibility. Their claims also do not account for the “downtime” that crematoria require for maintenance, etc. In addition, there are no mass burial sites that are commensurate with the claims of “six-million” or even “one-million”. There is also a jewish prohibition on excavation of claimed possible burial sites. WHY?? Because THEY DO NOT EXIST. There is even a prohibition on the use of ground penetrating radar to search for burial sites. WHY?? If millions were gassed and cremated, the activities would have lasted well into the 1950s.

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth?? What are you afraid of??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”. Zionist complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust ™”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment.

    The latest “vicitms” of “holocaustianity ™” are Ursula Haverbeck and Monika Schaefer, both 80 plus-year-old grandmothers who have been prosecuted and sentenced to maximum-security prison in Germany for “incorrect thoughts”.

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust ™” is the only one that counts . . . It is interesting to note that the term “holocaust ™” to mean “mass extermination” was never used during or immediately after WW2, only coming to vogue in the 1960s, when it was noted that “guilt” could be assigned and reparations could be procured.

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ “transference syndrome”. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations. Accprding to these jewish psychiatrists, even unrelated individuals can be “infected” with this “malady”.

    Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland” for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures). The International Red Cross had full access to all of the camps for the duration of the war, yet reported NOT ONE INSTANCE of extermination or mass murder.

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used vindictively before or since. . .After his report was published, he was harassed by Israeli “deep state” types (mossad) who he successfully “outed”.

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    It is said that “the light of day is the best disinfectant in the search for truth” Unfortunately this quote does not apply to “all things holocaust ™”. It appears that there are those “holocaust ™” promoters who are afraid of the TRUTH. Hence the prosecution and incarceration of those who dare question aspects of this historical event.

    I urge all “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

    • Replies: @Momus
  355. Zumbuddi says:
    @tac

    Thanks so much.

    Should say, geniinely, Thank you for your service.

    • Replies: @tac
  356. peterAUS says:
    @tac

    nice collage of footage of the protests (during the day) and the ones showing people (could have been Israelis themselves to make it look like Palestinians) placing weapons (at night as is indicative of the night-vision footage).

    True.
    Or it could’ve been paid actors…anywhere….even in any developed country. Say, all powerful Jews paid some Hollywood people to do all that.
    Etc….

    Or, they were simply Palestinians doing all that then and there.

    As for the rest, if you really want to go that route:

    Why did they not just shoot them when when they placed those weapons there at night …

    Operational security. If you want more please say, I’ll try to explain.

    why not confiscate the weapons shortly thereafter?

    Mission parameters: weapons placement done by secondary players; wait for real players to pick them up and take them out. Etc…

    Why would protesters hide weapons there in the first place,

    Plenty of options. The most practical, simply no need to cover all that ground armed to get closer to its target!?

    when, and if they wanted to, or had in fact had weapons, did they not just hide them amongst themselves during the protest … could have easily done so with such large number of protesters gathered that day.

    That is sound possibility.
    Another is, save range/distance thing (very important when trying to shoot somebody) that the crowd itself wouldn’t be happy with an armed person within. Or, people in tactical command there, on Palestinian side, didn’t want to risk a mass retaliation.

    No, in fact, it is more likely that the Israels place those weapons there and took footage of these scenes for later propaganda use.

    It is possible.
    It is also possible it was done exactly as OP said.

    You people, both sides, are just funny, actually.

    Each side is pointing to obvious to the other, BUT, not admitting to obvious in “own’ side.

    One side: Israelis perfect, Palestinians evil incarnate.
    Other side: Palestinians perfect, Israelis evil incarnate.

    How about: both side perfectly capable of anything imaginable and have been doing that for some time there.

    Now, in this very case, I go for:
    Palestinians hard effort versus Israeli measured and efficient response.

    Good play by both sides.

    • Replies: @tac
  357. @Momus

    I assume you would agree that any village killings would have occurred among the civilian population. Meaning they had nothing to do with any kind of state-sponsored programs to “liquidate” large numbers of Jews by gassing them in “death camps”. No controversy exist regarding the presence of forced labor camps. However, there could not have been any sort of death camps, as proven by a total lack of evidence (including mass graves) that any such thing ever existed.

  358. @Momus

    The majority were killed in disguised, purpose designed gassing facilites

    .

    Oh, now I get it!! Kinda like Colin Powell’s mobile chemical labs – another Jewish (neocon) fabrication. I’ll have to admit that when it comes to making up horror stories that appeal to the ignorant and uninformed, Jews are in a class all to themselves, no competitors anywhere even close.

  359. @Momus

    Now, it appears you are admitting there are no remains whatsoever. So, considering time restraints, plus a lack of natural resources needed to reduce 6 million Jews to – well nothing, how did that happen? The trouble with you people is that you tell so many lies about so many different thing until you can’t keep them straight and end-up contradicting what you just said.

  360. tac says:
    @peterAUS

    PeterAUS:

    I am not quite certain just yet if you are selective in your thinking in isolating pieces of an argument and making an counter argument simply by focusing on that PIECE as if the entire argument rests upon JUST that part (having now proven your inability to retain each piece in the OVERALL theory when taken in its entirety to assess the probability, or likelihood, if you will, of most likely scenario). Now, when taken all the evidence presented in that video (two separate times, one part of the video of the protests during the DAY–to give it that sense of realizability–, and the other taken at NIGHT–to tie in the weapons, bombs, mischief). Perhaps next time they can film the footage around the same time of day, so at least it adds plausibility. this Israeli footage is amateurish….so much for that higher IQ.

    And again, PeterAUS, let’s just set aside that GLARING miscalculation, and focus more on other aspects. Why would a supposed Hamas operative place a rifle RIGHT NEXT to the security fence AT NIGHT and BEFORE the demonstrations? How close to that weapon do you think he would get during the DAY when the IDF snipers are actively picking off Palestinians? No, Peter, it makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. It makes more sense that it was planted there (whether by the Mossad, IDF, or a paid-off Palestinian) is irrelevant. If a Hamas ‘terrorist’ was to hide a weapon, even at NIGHT and before the event, it would make more sense to hide it in a myriad of other places, like BURIED under some dirt anywhere FAR from the security fence.

    You see PeterAUS, when examining all of these pieces, and others, which I do not think I need to in order to prove that more likely scenario, who has the motive, the opportunity and the benefits? If all else’s fails, think qui bono, and work from there. Now, either you’re obtuse, disoriented, and easily distracted in your reasoning, or quite aware in your reasoning, yet highly selective and very motivated to sell a preconceived version of the events, if just massaged subtly enough, can APPEAR to be reasonable, and thus possible–all the while disguising your true motivations. Which is it PeterAUS?

    You will have to try harder next time…and if it is the later, as to your true intent here, do not forget to ask the Hasbara foundation for more shekels, or the higher IQ type Hasbara types … or was that a myth …. why abandon reason when it is of great benefit … especially in these times?

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @peterAUS
  361. @Momus

    Your suggestion that concentration camps were self managed is a mental illness grade delusion. The camps were run by the SS.

    Dear Benthos, I mean Bathos, check out Emil Maurice. Even wikipedia, which is usually very unreliable when exposing the sins of the chosen thugs, admits that he, an SS officer and personal friend of Hitler, was Jewish.

    In 1935 Heinrich Himmler, the head of Reichsführer-SS, introduced new racial purity rules. When it was discovered that [Emil] Maurice’s…great-grandfather, Charles Maurice Schwartzenberger, was Jewish. Himmler recommended that Maurice be expelled from the SS. However, Adolf Hitler protected him and he declared him an “Honorary Aryan”.
    Like most of Hitler’s friends from his earlier life, Maurice was rewarded with a sinecure. In 1936 he became a Reichstag deputy for Leipzig and from 1937 was the chairman of the Landeshandwerksmeister, a society of professional handicraft workers in Munich. From 1940 to 1942, he served in the Luftwaffe as an officer. After the war in 1948, he was sentenced to four years in a labor camp.

    http://spartacus-educational.com/GERmaurice.htm

    Your denial that concentration camps were self managed is mental illness grade delusion and industrial grade ignorance as well, but keep it up. We dumb goyim love it.

    PS You wanna hear about Zionist collaboration with Nazis?

  362. @Momus

    America has not bombed Iran.

    Maybe not, though America’s boss probably has…

    Tikun Olam תיקון עולם:

    In its report, Israel Defense publishes satellite images and analysis that claims “an attack” against bunkers in the complex. I don’t know if use of the word was intentional or not. But it is highly suggestive. In addition, how did IsraelDefense get access to these images? I have a pretty good idea. Their friendly Israeli intelligence source wanted to let the world know about the accident. Either he wanted the world to know purely to feast on Iran’s misery; or because his agency had something to do with the explosion.

    https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/10/09/did-israel-bomb-irans-parchin-nuclear-facility/

    You probably never heard of this.:

    Iran civilian flight 655 shot down by US warship in Iran’s territory.

    http://www.iransview.com/photos-you-may-not-have-seen-iranian-civil-plane-shot-down-by-us-navy/1290/

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @L.K
  363. L.K says:
    @tac

    Hello tac,

    You have done great work unmasking the sordid obfuscation & lies advanced by the agent provocateur & COWARD, peterAus…

    However, I fear that, in the end, you might just be feeding a Troll…

    Cheers

    • Replies: @tac
  364. tac says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Thank you for caring for the truth. Objective …. I have read on this forum that the goyim, especially the European/US kind, lack this (for whatever reason–which is not the focus of my exercise here– be it because of Enlightenment, a sense of individualism, complacency, whatever….) whereas the Jews have one clearly defined and spend generations in the pursuit of it as a result: SURVIVAL! One may say whatever one wishes about the Jews, but they have lived, and paid terrible prices at various times throughout their history, and are justly bound by this term and therefore vastly experienced in its nuances. On the other hand, the goyim are at a precipice, but lack awareness–or the implications thereof–of this most basic, yet single most important biological concept (in this case, not biological survival, but cultural, political, economic, and meaningful survival–lest one is content to be a third-world type society). Survival …. Is that not worthy to pursue as an OBJECTIVE, akin to the early foundation of America?

    A false sense of security buttressed by enough complacency is a recipe for being deceived, infiltrated, invaded, and ultimately subjugated. I have no time to engage in superiority contests, as I have witnessed here at times–full of higher-lower IQ competitions–, but I can tell you one thing for certain: I refuse to live on my knees and become a subject, and so I choose to fight back (I am no one of significance of authority, but am one of enduring resolve)–having practically little personal free-time due to many usual factors for hard-working individuals, but have managed to squeeze out every possible moment of free-time (even sleeping on three-hour nights) to research, analyze, and inform people on various sites and various subjects, including here recently, of what is at stake here-and-now. I choose to fight for my family, my kids, my fellow citizens (both of the US and the world at large)!

    Now, if we can have those who feel likewise–put aside their petty egos (in some cases)–and join this movement: SURVIVAL (see Darwinism) we can overcome this. Those with more time on their hands (and/or those with higher IQs) join the resistance!
    Do what you can in exposing the the truth, let your natural expertise in varying fields of study/experience/curiosity (although holocaust/Holohoax deserves to be investigated–in a less-pressing time no doubt–the one of most significance and one that can have the biggest effect in turning the tide is 9/11 (lookup highly sourced Shea memo and work from there) uncovering this will blow everything WIDE OPEN!!!!

    Do what you can, whether research, analysis, recording, informing or simply spreading it out–all of this is key to CHANGING THIS miserable juncture we find our selves in currently!

    Let me end this this way:

    What did this man die for?:

    What are you to do as a citizen:

    Now you can choose to be counted, or you can choose to suffocate [slowly]? What will it be? Your family, your citizenry–of all IQ types–, and humanity awaits your answer?
    Do you make things happen, watch things happen, or just wonder: what the hell just happened?

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  365. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hey Jacques,

    ZUSA never even apologized for it(flight 655 shoot down), not to mention the cover up…

    ZUSA also, as declassified documents prove, helped Saddam gas the Iranians in the 1980s… which just goes to show the utter hypocrisy and cynicism of the ZUS when making their total BS claims that the Syrian forces used chemical weapons against zusa’s backed jihadists.

    CIA Files Prove America Helped Saddam as He Gassed Iran

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/

    ZUSA really is, much like IsraHell, a complete rogue state.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  366. L.K says:

    Latest news on Great March of Return in Gaza – periodically updated

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/latest-news-on-great-march-of-return-in-gaza-constantly-updated/

    “Since March 30, Palestinian refugees in the Gaza Strip — including families, women, and children — have gathered along the Israeli border to highlight their dispossession in 1948 and protest the growing humanitarian catastrophe.

    Latest numbers: Israeli forces have killed 112 Palestinians, injured 13,190 since March 30th” – shot deaf child in the head, soccer player in the knee, medics, killed 2 journalists & injured 90… A total of one Israeli soldier was injured, the cause is unclear).”

    • Replies: @Momus
  367. L.K says:

    Meet Tarek Loubani, the Canadian Doctor Shot by Israeli Forces Monday While Treating Gaza’s Wounded

  368. L.K says:

    Israeli journalist Gideon Levy wrote in the Haaretz:

    60 Killed In Gaza And The End Of Israeli Conscience [ one cannot end what one never had to start with Mr. Levy ]

    On the night of the Palestinians’ slaughter, Zion exulted an embassy and a Eurovision. It’s difficult to think of a more atrocious moral eclipse

    … Two million human beings we’ve imprisoned already, and their fate matters to no one. The pictures that occasionally flicker of children without electricity and parents without water, of crippled people being shot to death and of leg amputees, all children of refugees from the 1948 disaster we landed on their heads.

    What has that to do with us? It’s Hamas’ fault. Sixty individuals killed in one day, and not a shred of sorrow has been sighted in Israel. From now on, it never will be.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @jilles dykstra
  369. tac says:
    @L.K

    Whatever my feelings are with respects to PeyerAUS (along with his true intentions on this site) is besides the point; rather my intent is to give PeterAUS any and all possibility at a face-saving retraction consisting of a position that is plausible, given the evidence presented along with the limiting/sorrounding circumstances given, and one that, on the whole, can appear to make a REASONABLE argument.

    PeterAUS, however, should forever feel that given ample room–throughout his ever-morphing arguements–he was given every opportunity at at concise, coherent, and substantive rebuttal (as to yet again be subject to the ever-lastin kvetching or those eternal victory…almost wants to make one wear the ‘(((Scarlet letter)))’

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  370. peterAUS says:
    @tac

    Why would a supposed Hamas operative place a rifle RIGHT NEXT to the security fence AT NIGHT and BEFORE the demonstrations?

    So an unarmed person can walk to that weapon and use it. Night, obvious. Before, obvious. Makes sense?

    How close to that weapon do you think he would get during the DAY when the IDF snipers are actively picking off Palestinians?

    Depends where the snipers, or any IDF soldier is. That’s a long fence……

    If a Hamas ‘terrorist’ was to hide a weapon, even at NIGHT and before the event, it would make more sense to hide it in a myriad of other places, like BURIED under some dirt anywhere FAR from the security fence.

    Maybe. It also makes sense if the weapon is buried straight next to the fence. Depends what you want with the weapon.

    …who has the motive, the opportunity and the benefits?

    Both sides.

    See, you seem unable to accept a couple of simple facts:
    -that conflict is a nasty business
    -both sides have proven capable of all sort of ….mischief. Truth being the first thing to go….

    I am not, yet, quite sure are you pushing an agenda of are simply naïve.

    Now, I definitely admit that it was/is/will be possible that Israelis did/do/will do that. Oh man…did I even write that? Like “Earth revolves around Sun”.

    But, my…..friend, you somehow can’t accept that Palestinians could do all that as well.

    THAT is the key in all this….discussion.

    I mean it’s just funny. Hilarious in fact. That people yelling “Allahu Akbar” can’t do that.
    They can kill their own people, including women and children, to blame the other side. Re-read this. If you can’t/won’t accept that fact no need do continue this.

    In this particular case I simply believe that the “planters” were Palestinians.

  371. peterAUS says:
    @tac

    How nice.

    Just one thing, a simple question. “Yes” or “no” would work perfectly.

    Have you ever being in a real life situation, as a member of military/security forces, similar to what’s happening there? Just once, in any capacity?

    I say I have. In my case, strong, “yes”.

    I am not saying that makes me an expert and your comments are worthless. Could very well be other way around. But, just curious.

    So…”yes” or “no”?

    • Replies: @tac
  372. Momus says:
    @L.K

    Haaretz is a virulently anti Israeli outlet. It is neither printed or published in Israel, and most of it’s journalists are in Europe or elsewhere, not Israel.

    It caters for that species of Jew, who mimic many off the commenters here, in their self loathing, for their nation.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  373. Momus says:
    @L.K

    Most of the killed where known terror operatives- attempting to get into Israel to kill, or Hamas military.

    • Troll: renfro
  374. @L.K

    Indeed, about 1880 rabbi Graetz of Krakow wrote in a nine volume or so history of the jews ‘that conscience has no place in judaism’.
    One finds the quote in
    Houston Stewart Chamberlain, ‘Die Grundlagen des Neunzehnten Jahrhunderts’, 1898- 1907, München
    Shahak writes similarly
    Israel Shahak, ‘Jewish History, Jewish Religion, The Weight of Three Thousand Years’, 1994, 2002, London

  375. @renfro

    There were
    Jan T. Gross, ‘Neighbours, The Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne, Poland, 1941’, 2003, London
    Dan Jacobson, ‘Heshels Rijk Familiekroniek’, Amsterdam 1998
    The last book is about how the Lithuanians killed their jewish neighbours.
    Alas why it happened, I just have
    ‘From prejudice to destruction’, Jacob Katz, 1980, Cambridge MA

    • Replies: @renfro
  376. @Momus

    Even books written by jewish inmates of concentration camps describe self management
    Elie Wiesel, ‘La Nuit’, 1958, 2007
    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962

    • Replies: @Momus
  377. Art says:

    Oh my —- why would Iran do a deal with America again?

    Threatening Kim – John Bolton make stupid statements about Libya and killing its leader. (To assassinate peace?)

    Then look at what happened. NK dismantles their nuke test site – and its Trumps turn to reciprocate – right?

    NO – Pompeo and Trump canceled the peace summit — go figure! (NK – insufficient kissing of Pence rump.)

    Don Trump, Gina Haspel, Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, Mad Dog Mattis, Mike Pence, and John Bolton.

    These people want total capitulation. What a rogue’s gallery of thugs. Why would anyone make a deal with those bullies?

    We are pre-2003 Iraq war, with sanctions and starving.

    Now Iran – we are one or two years and a Jew false flag away from war.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Hmm – did not hear it described that way on FOX – did you?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  378. Momus says:
    @anarchyst

    Haha. A veritable Megillah of nonsense.

    Any dispassionate search for information on the Holocaust results in mountains of meticulously researched, peer reviewed evidence for the vast scale of the Nazis efforts to exterminate Jews, and to hide that they did so.

  379. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    Refute my statements. Trouble is, you can’t. Your jewish holocaust ™ is going DOWN, and DOWN fast. People are finally seeing through this “money grab” and it’s inherent lies and fabrications. The jewish holocaust ™ scam is being exposed.
    A question for you: Why is it deemed necessary to incarcerate those who have differing opinions on this minor historical event?

    Monika Schaefer and Ursula Haverbeck, both 80-plus-year-old grandmothers are doing “hard time” in maximum security prisons in Germany for expressing their opinions (actually statements of fact) about the so-called jewish holocaust ™?

    • Replies: @Momus
  380. Momus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    By management I mean it in the large sense of design, implementation, overall administration and policy.

    The Jewish inmates weren’t paying the rail company bill for stock carriage transport of prisoners to Auschwitz

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  381. Momus says:
    @anarchyst

    You are making extraordinary claims that fly in the face of common knowledge about the Nazi’s pogroms. It is incumbent on you and your fellow benthos to make your case; not for me to refute the.
    So far that case has been a resounding, and worsening failure. DNA evidence and modern forensics have made the argument for the Holocaust happening unassailable.

    Instead of empathy and understanding for the plight of millions murdered, you cry and sook and are triggered because your sick narrative has no credibility.

    Why should being elderly and having vaginas excuse these old bags for breaking the law?

  382. @L.K

    Thank you for the reminder. I think we’re feeding a troll…

    • Replies: @Iris
  383. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    How is expressing one’s opinion “breaking the law”? Even the corrupt United Nations declares that “freedom of conscience” is an inalienable right.
    Your “holocaust ™” is being proven to be a falsehood as we speak…your hasbara roots are showing…
    Refute my statements…trouble is, you can’t as it would expose the falsehoods that comprise holocaust ™ orthodoxy.

  384. @Momus

    Haaretz is a virulently anti Israeli outlet. It is neither printed or published in Israel, and most of it’s journalists are in Europe or elsewhere, not Israel.

    Guess what? Israel is the worst anti-semitic and anti-human gangster state on the planet. Maybe Haaretz is, appropriately, anti-Israeli thug.

    It caters for that species of Jew, who mimic many off the commenters here, in their self loathing, for their nation.

    Love it. That species of Jew. Tsk tsk, your “superiority” complex is showing and it sounds as if you may be a “self-loather.” By the looks of it you ought to loathe your own personal self, no doubt do and that would be most appropriate.

    Keep posting; your comments, both anti-goy and anti-semitic, are as revealing as they are amusing.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  385. @Art

    These people want total capitulation.

    Yes they do. They seem to thrive on humiliation of others.

    What a rogue’s gallery of thugs. Why would anyone make a deal with those bullies?

    No one with a either a brain or a grain of self respect would attempt it if they could avoid it.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @L.K
  386. @Momus

    Any dispassionate search for information on the Holocaust results in mountains of meticulously researched, peer reviewed evidence for the vast scale of the Nazis efforts to exterminate Jews, and to hide that they did so.

    Too bad those mountains of BS are, despite your risible claims, anything but dispassionate.

    Prove us wrong.

  387. @Momus

    You are making extraordinary claims that fly in the face of common knowledge about the Nazi’s pogroms.

    You mean common propaganda.

    Anyway, tell us about the Bolshie anti-goy pogroms, and the Marxist goons who funded, initiated and participated in them.

    FYI, your appeal to “common knowledge” is amusing but hardly valid or convincing, but please do keep trying. May I point out the “common knowledge” is for commoners, liars and similar ignoramuses?

  388. @Momus

    Why should being elderly and having vaginas excuse these old bags for breaking the law?

    Unjust laws are made to be broken, even by us dumb goyim. And please note that your comment seems to be anti-goy hate speech and besides, it’s a strawman argument since their vaginas have nothing to do with it.

    Why should playing the victim card ad nauseum be a valid though over-used excuse for breaking “the law” ?

  389. MacNucc11 says:
    @Carroll Price

    So true. If you ever try and un-dupe them they react in anger and fear that you tried to wake them from their zombified state.

  390. MacNucc11 says:
    @windwaves

    You should probably just call them Israelis. I think it is wishful thinking that there is even a second.

  391. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete wisely advised ideologically blind Momus: “Keep posting; your comments, both anti-goy and anti-semitic, are as revealing as they are amusing.”

    Hi Jacques,

    I support your advice, above!

    Not as deceptively articulate as either Maven Sam Shama or InZitatus, but I’ll settle for Momus, at a “marked down” cost!

    He is much more straight forward & consistent with his non-objective & Jew-centered comments.

    (Zigh)

    An objective & awaited Hebrew Messiah might assert “Out on a fragile limb, but scribe Momus has no guile!”

    Thanks, Jacques.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  392. Heard on C Span: “If it wasn’t for our military, Europe would be speaking German.”

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  393. tac says:
    @peterAUS

    PeterAUS, since it is now clear that you are impervious to reason I will leave you with these to defend with plain footage (if you can?):

    • Replies: @tac
    , @tac
  394. @tac

    In reality, 9/11 is the key. Unless and until the false-flag of 9/11 is openly acknowledged and honestly dealt with by the American people, all paths forward remain closed. With prominent writers and commenters like ex-congressman Ron Paul, Pat Buchannan, and many others who have every reason to know better, continuing to reference 9/11 as a legitimate attack by Muslim terrorist, there is no hope.

    • Replies: @Momus
  395. @ChuckOrloski

    I rather sympathize with Momus, and other hasbara agents assigned the formidable task of monitoring and commenting on the Unz Review. I suppose in most ways it would represent the ultimate compliment bestowed upon individuals by his or her superiors, but you know it can’t be easy.

  396. tac says:
    @tac

    Once again most of what I just posted was cut off?!?!

    Here it is again:

    ttps://twitter.com/AllThereIsNow/status/997556222780985344

    • Replies: @Momus
  397. tac says:
    @tac

    and this was also cut off from my previous post:

    • Replies: @tac
    , @Momus
  398. @SolontoCroesus

    Thanks, Jacques.

    And thanks to you, as well, Chuck! It’s almost sad to see Hasbara Central scraping the dregs from the very bottom of the hasbarrel. It’s no doubt intended as an insult to us dumb goyim as well.

    Perhaps when the hideous goons quit shooting to kill and maim unarmed and non-threatening (to any normal person) Palestinians for all the world to witness, they can send in the real schmucks.

  399. tac says:
    @tac

    And PeterAUS, if that is not enough justification for you flailing attempts to justify cold-blooded murderous atrocities committed by the government of Israel, here is some more (do try to justify these):

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180309-palestinian-child-blinded-in-one-eye-after-being-shot-by-israeli-soldier/

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180517-award-winning-photographer-shot-by-israel-soldier-in-the-west-bank/

    Would you like more exposure …. I can go on INDEFINITELY??!!!

    • Replies: @tac
  400. @Momus

    We seem to getting closer to one another.
    You no longer deny the self management in the camps.
    You deny that jews set up the deportations and the camps.
    We fully agree here.

    • Replies: @Momus
  401. Momus says:
    @Carroll Price

    There is hope for most people Carroll.

    Wackadoodle “it’s a cornspeeracee” MF’s like you are suffering from serious mental illness grade delusions.

    Accept the overwhelming evidence of Muslim terrorists who learnt to steer aircraft committing that attack and a lot of the mind damaging anger, confusion, crying and cognitive dissonance will leave you. Not to mention the time you will save by not posting garbage on smelly little blogs. :-)

    • Replies: @Art
  402. renfro says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Your reply isn’t pertinent to what my reply to Momus said.

    It wasn’t about Poles and Jews. You missed the point.
    I said the world has had enough of the Jewish whining and their killing others while whining has cancelled their get out of jail free victimhood card.

    I will say however that relying on Jewish authors for knowledge and understanding of the war and the Jews…in any country….wont give you the complete picture.
    You need unbiased history to get the sweep and details of why Jews were attacked in various countries…which no one disputes….to understand why. A lot of Poland’s Jews had emigrated to Poland from Russia and as a matter of fact a lot of Polish Jews fled back to Russia during the war—-which you can verify in reports of various government officials from observing countries during that time. People didn’t just suddenly let their inner anti semite out, it was more complicated than that and past history came into play—Bolshevism, communism, etc. was associated with the Jews and some people blamed Jews for causing the war and Germany’s invasion of Poland.

  403. gwynedd1 says:
    @Patricus

    Yeah no bias here , huh.

    1.7% of people is not 1.7% of the disposable income. Lots of voters keep trying to vote in politicians that are not so pro-Israel but they nearly always lean Zionist after the election. This includes Trump. I was more positive on Trump for being more neutral, and now , as usual, muh Zionism.

  404. @Momus

    Your statement reminds me of the mountain of evidence that the Palestinians were not driven from their land in 1948 and earlier, but that their leaders asked them to go away.
    Those asking to be shown that evidence got nothing.

    In 1980 Faurisson published an article in Le Monde, that after fifteen years of research he had not been able to find evidence for the gas chambers.
    About two dozen of French intellectuals replied that the gas chambers must have existed, because six million jews had been killed.
    Faurisson’s reply to them was not published.

    He lost his job according to a new law stating that anyone denying the standard holocaust story had to be fired from civil service.

    In one of the later trials against Faurisson the court stated that they’d never known that the evidence for the holocaust was so thin, but, ‘as denying was against the law, they had to convict him’.

  405. renfro says:
    @Momus

    Any dispassionate search for information on the Holocaust results in mountains of meticulously researched, peer reviewed evidence for the vast scale of the Nazis efforts to exterminate Jews, and to hide that they did so

    Hardly. Books written by Jews and reviewed by Jews aren’t dispassionate research.

    • Replies: @Momus
  406. Momus says:
    @tac

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5270604,00.html

    Baby Gaza was a floppy prop with congenital heart disease that killed her.

    • Replies: @Art
  407. Incitatus says:
    @iffen

    Hi iffen! Sorry for the delay.

    “euthanasia teams operating in the East that killed wounded German soldiers”

    Don’t recall anything in T4 studies or elsewhere. Don’t remember it in ‘Eichmann in Jerusalem’ to be honest, but it’s decades since I read it, so faulty memory could be a factor.

    The stand-till-death order ala Stalingrad (‘Out of ammo? Use your teeth and nails!’) was, one supposes, a novel Aryan self-euthanasia program. ‘Winter coats? We don’t need no stinkin winter coats!’

    Best

    • Replies: @Art
    , @iffen
    , @Anon
  408. tac says:
    @tac

    PeterAUS, since you are tone-deaf (and have absolutely NO IDEA whom you are dealing with), try to refute these:

    Israelis in their OWN WORDS:

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @peterAUS
  409. Momus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    You are probably talking about sonderkommandos at the death camps and kapos at others.

    The SS commanded by Himmler ran the concentration camps, not the inmates.

  410. Art says:
    @jacques sheete

    Don Trump, Gina Haspel, Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, Mad Dog Mattis, and John Bolton

    These mean-spirited rogues are running America. Not one of them a Jew. Yet they are all dedicated to the Israeli war agenda. They will viciously attack you and call you un-American if you remind them of that fact.

    The Jews are truly monsters. For sure America has always been flawed – but it was unmatched in giving the most people the best life. Jews have parasitically taken over the best thing that ever happened to mankind and turned it into a war machine for their sick tribe.

    Vote the all the bastards out of office who support these rogues. It is the most important thing you can do.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

    p.s. Iran is next to be bloodied.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  411. Momus says:
    @renfro

    Why not?

    Deniers like yourself claim the research of pro Nazi historians as dispassionate and authorative.

    In any case there are any number of researchers who are not Jewish who have added to the mountain of documentary, physical and eyewitness evidence of the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  412. Momus says:
    @tac

    First video. No doubt there are Jewish soldiers who relish the opportunity to shoot an arab in the head- even if it is only with a .22 hollowpoint.

    You never can tell from a video which of those boys may harbor a desire for revenge because a parent or friend or sibling was blown up by a Hamas bus bomber. What goes around in a tough neighbourhood.

    • Replies: @Art
  413. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Don’t recall anything in T4 studies or elsewhere. Don’t remember it in ‘Eichmann in Jerusalem’ to be honest

    WWII – WWII – WWII — you and Dolf forever and ever. You two make music.

    The word from hell, is that Dolf loves you! You honor him with a sweet name.

    He is so happy – you keep him alive.

    Think Peace — Art

  414. Art says:
    @Momus

    Wackadoodle “it’s a cornspeeracee” MF’s like you are suffering from serious mental illness grade delusions.

    Oh my’ — things must be dire — Hasbara Central is sending out the Kiddy Corps.

    What grade are you in? You are energetic – do you young Little Jews ever get recess?

    Bet, you cannot wait to get some real blood on your hand in the IDF.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

  415. Incitatus says:
    @iffen

    Hans Ulrich Rüdel was a remarkable warrior. ‘Stuka Pilot’ is well worth reading. Hitler created a special class of the Knight’s Cross (golden oak leaves, swords, diamonds) just for him. Wounded five times, lost a leg below the knee, kept on flying. Indefatigable Eveready Bunny meets Monty Python’s Black Knight.

    One thing’s for sure. No more avid, unapologetic Nazi ever existed. Even after the crimes became well known. Naturally Barbarossa was a “defensive war”, a “crusade for the whole world”, and Germany was betrayed in a second Dolchstoß. Carried the torch to Argentina and befriended Perón, who helped him transition to military advisor/arms dealer in Brazil, Bolivia, Chile and Paraguay. Represented Dornier, Focke-Wolf, Messerschmitt, Siemens and other German firms. He also provided advice on close-air support that helped design the A-10.

    At the same time, Rüdel formed an odious relief organization for like-minded humanitarians like Josef Mengele, Adolf Eichmann and Walter Rauff. Sent food packages to Hess and Dönitz. Partnered with RSHA forger Friedrich Schwend and Klaus ‘Butcher of Lyon’ Barbie to provide good jobs for ex-SS. Sadly, no South-American Reich blossomed. Worse, das Vaterland rejected Rüdel’s election bid for the right-wing Deutsche Reichspartei in 1953.

    Warriors so famous recall ever-more-elusive chivalry. Manfred von Richthofen, an extraordinary predator, hunted without personal malice. Rüdel shared that talent, but fed on doctrinal spite. The irony? Hitler despised losers, including vanquished Germans. Just ask Friedrich Paulus. Wonder if he would have ordered Rüdel, like fallen Germany, destroyed?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Art
  416. @tac

    tac, a video disappeared!

    I watched it — it was several minutes long; I think it was just below the Israelis thugs who punched and kicked in the groin the Palestinian kid. It had scrolling text, not closed captioning but a discourse.

    I wanted to watch it again, among other reasons because it said, “this is just like the Nazis,” (+ – ) then ended with the request, “share this video,” so I was going to try to download it.

    I would share the video, but I think it’s a strategic error to constantly raise the “Nazi” comparison: first of all, imo the situation is not at all the same — Germans were in a type of actual war that is no longer fought, that does not compare with what Israelis are doing to Palestinians; furthermore, I’m not aware of solid evidence of German soldiers actually brutalizing civilians other than partisans, the way that Palestinian was beaten on camera.

    Second, comparing Jews/Israel/IDF to Nazis is like giving a blow job to goons like Momus and the ones who beat up that kid: it reinforces Jewish hate, and conveys a sense of power, even superpower, to Jewish thugs.

    If it’s a bad idea for AltRight to use NSDAP symbols, it’s an even worse idea to use “Nazi” to characterize Zionists, Israelis, IDF, etc. They are totally different ideologies and creatures.

    PS The exchange between the Irish ?? legislator & Israeli ambassador needs to spread far and wide. He got a little hot, and a moderator tried to tone him down, but he made numerous significant points, most important = “the whole system of apartheid needs to be dismantled.” Same as Ahmadinejad: “zionism must disappear from pages of time.”

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @tac
  417. Miro23 says:
    @jilles dykstra

    On the contrary, Rudel landed his Stuka to help the crew of another Stuka, damaged, that had crash landed.
    He then was unable to start, wheels sunk in the mud.
    Hans-Ulrich Rudel, ´Mein Kriegstagebuch, Aufzeichnungen eines Stukafliegers’, 1983, 2006 Dresden

    Or, https://www.amazon.com/Stuka-Pilot-Hans-Ulrich-Rudel/dp/1908476877/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1527272958&sr=1-1&keywords=rudel+stuka

    Using a slow outdated aircraft (Junkers 87 “Stuka”) he destroyed:

    11 aircraft, 519 tanks, 1 battleship (Soviet “Marat”), 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, many 100′s of vehicles. A fascinating book: Rudel redefines “Cojones”.

  418. Art says:
    @Momus

    No doubt there are Jewish soldiers who relish the opportunity to shoot an arab in the head- even if it is only with a .22 hollowpoint.

    Jewdi – Jewdi – Jewdi – our little Jewdi boy is so cute – he is tuff too — our little Momus Jewdi is a proud killer.

    What a tribe!

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

  419. peterAUS says:
    @tac

    Wow…you are on the roll here.

    I was mistaken.
    That you have zero real life experience with military/security stuff was obvious.
    But, you aren’t naive member of “chattering class” tribe in West as I suspected.
    You are an agenda pusher here. Probably even with roots outside of Western sphere. Slipping in style, even, longer you post.
    Sad, of sort.

    I guess you are surprised and that creates additional layer of frustration.
    Surprised that the proven method, suddenly and unexpectedly, isn’t working anymore.
    Pictures of dead children..the ultimate weapon. I mean, the same delivered those cruise missiles on Syria recently.
    Pictures of shot civilians…oh, horror….any security outfit of this world fears those more than paramilitary assault on own HQ.
    Works as charm, always………well…except now.
    Israelis just do not give a shit. You guys failed, keep failing and will keep failing.
    Israelis…….just………do………not………give …………..a ………….shit.

    I guess you do know (being one of “them”) that the game there isn’t the same as in West. Your campaign is, granted, well thought out and executed, but, the game, the stakes, aren’t the same. They are much higher, for the state power there, than in all those other places where the same method worked so well.
    Israelis aren’t Russians in Ukraine, Alavites in Syria, Turkish army vs Erdogan, let alone Western governments “trying” to protect their borders or own society.
    The game is ancient, of blood and soil, and is primordial.
    High tech weaponry and gadgets are just tools; the mindset is from the age of bronze weapons.

    So, you are more than welcome to keep pushing the agenda and keep your impotent rants up. Emphasize on impotent.
    Israelis will keep doing whatever they, and nobodody else in this world, believe it works in their own best interests. As any decent government, especially in West, should be doing.
    If it takes killing thousands of Palestinians in next couple of months they’ll do it.
    And no amount of blabbing will change that.

    Hamas did well, the best they could. Still, not good enough.
    It would’ve worked anywhere else, granted, but….not there.

    I, personally, don’t see any change there until something major changes somewhere else.

    The real question “chattering class” should be asking (not your types, of course) is: how much of that social disaster there is of Israeli making and how much of Palestinian own making.
    Similar to African-American plight in USA. Or African in France.
    Or..taking into account those “Allahu Akbar” Islamist shit in West.

    This is a good laboratory.
    Some people, I am sure, are taking notes along the lines “well, working well there; perhaps we could use some of it when it happens here”.

    We’ll see, taking into account the Jewish attitude, quite 180 style, when assessing state response anywhere else except Israel.

    Funny, a?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @tac
    , @L.K
  420. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    Ah
    So

    George Bush, David Petraeus and assorted US commandants in illegitimate war in Iraq who are now living la dolce vita on Lockheed and Raytheon etc. boards are NOT blazing a new trail.

    Say, do you suppose the Bush family compound in Paraguay https://agorafinancial.com/2015/04/24/why-did-george-bush-buy-nearly-300000-acres-in-paraguay/ or the vast territory in Patagonia that Jews are cornering as a haven against WWIII, https://new.euro-med.dk/20180104-the-2-israel-in-patagonia-argentine-refuge-for-israeli-elite-after-gog-magog-attack.php were formerly inhabited by any of Rüdel’s rangers?

  421. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Hans Ulrich Rüdel was a remarkable warrior. ‘Stuka Pilot’ is well worth reading. Hitler created a special class of the Knight’s Cross

    Oh my’ — Incitatus and iffen and Dolf – brothers in death – keeping fascist evil alive.

    Incitatus and iffen making WWII comments over and over – and Dolf clapping from hell.

    The axis of fascist evil – German fascism keeps Jew fascism alive. How sad.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

    • Replies: @iffen
  422. Z-man says:
    @lavoisier

    Tom ‘pikkin’ Cotton. He should be drawn and quartered.

  423. Art says:
    @Momus

    Baby Gaza was a floppy prop with congenital heart disease that killed her.

    Oh dear’ — our little Jewdi Momus is so young – so sick – so mean – so Jewish – so Israeli – so sad.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism — Art

  424. @Momus

    In any case there are any number of researchers who are not Jewish who have added to the mountain of documentary, physical and eyewitness evidence of the Holocaust.

    Name them.

  425. Art says:
    @peterAUS

    Israelis…….just………do………not………give …………..a ………….shit.

    My gosh’ — poor AUS — their peter is at it again – defending Jewdis.

    How sad – 500 words promoting evil!

    Think Peace — Art

  426. Momus says:

    Name them.

    Ok, how about Dwight Eisenhower, an American soldier of German back ground. Here is some of what he said when he saw Ohrdruf/Buchenwald:

    We continue to uncover German concentration camps for political prisoners in which conditions of indescribable horror prevail. I have visited one of these myself and I assure you that whatever has been printed on them to date has been understatement. If you could see any advantage in asking about a dozen leaders of Congress and a dozen prominent editors to make a short visit to this theater in a couple of C-54′s, I will arrange to have them conducted to one of these places where the evidence of bestiality and cruelty is so overpowering as to leave no doubt in their minds about the normal practices of the Germans in these camps. I am hopeful that some British individuals in similar categories will visit the northern area to witness similar evidence of atrocity.

    Eisenhower made sure he saw every part of that camp and invited many journalists photographers and politicians, as well as local Germans to view the Nazi horrors. He researched and recorded in the first person; saw the sights, smelt the smells, vomited and so on.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @jacques sheete
    , @renfro
    , @Anon
  427. tac says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Hi S2C:

    I checked and it seems those videos are still active, but I will post them again … btw, I am not one to compare Nazis to these Israeli thugs, but since I did not make those videos, I cannot separate what is contained within them, but you and I can both agree that proof of Israeli brutal tactics against the Palestinians is both undeniable and clear-cut … (btw2, nice to finally get a response from you …. I am in general agreement with most of what you post … keep up the good work … let’s finally expose these sub-humans for what they really are):

    Also Boycott Israel:

  428. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    These mean-spirited rogues are running America. Not one of them a Jew.

    The Jews are truly monsters.

    Art!
    The cup runneth over with your Christian Love, Peace, Hope, Healing and Idealism.

    • Replies: @Art
  429. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    but it’s decades since I read it

    Thanks, it’s in there, I just finished it. She doesn’t give a source which is not the only instance. It was one of those books that many people read years ago and I just never got around to it.

    She’s a terrible writer. She spends way too many pages trying to bounce around inside people’s heads.

    Even so, some interesting information that I was not familiar with and that can be verified.

  430. tac says:
    @peterAUS

    You see, PeterAUS, it is useless to reason with you as your mind is already made up–as I originally was inclined to believe–, but at least the avid readers of this site can now see you for what you really are: a Zio Hasbara troll, who attempts to disguise himself as a dispassionate observer under a thin veil of ‘objectivity’. But alas, PeterAUS, you can now stop pretending since you have torn off your mask-of-deceit and have show us what you really stand for.

    And since you want to continue, so shall I:

    More to be proud of as an Israeli:
    3 year-old in cage

    • Replies: @tac
  431. iffen says:
    @Art

    Arts, you are one sad case. Jews on the brain disease has turned yours to complete mush.

    A warrior’s skill and accomplishments are not the same as his motivation or ideology. You are not confusing apples with oranges, you are saying that rocks, apples and oranges are all the same thing.

    • Replies: @Art
  432. tac says:
    @tac

    In case that was not enough, PeterAUS, here is some more:

    Here they go again doing what they can to hide their atrocities:

    The Israeli Ministerial Committee for Legislation will discuss, Sunday, a bill that would prohibit the documentation of Israeli soldiers’ human rights violations against Palestinian citizens.
    The bill states, “anyone who shoots a video or a photo, or records soldiers while they are doing their job, with the aim of disturbing the morale of soldiers and citizens, will be sentenced to five years imprisonment. In case this is done with the aim of destabilising the state’s security, the perpetrator will be sentenced to ten years imprisonment.”

    In addition, the bill prohibits the sharing of photographs or recorded content on social media or in the media.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180525-israeli-bill-seeks-to-criminalise-documentation-of-israeli-soldiers-actions/#.WwhxVGSW2M0.twitter

    • Replies: @Momus
  433. @tac

    Thank you, tac, and apologies for distracting from your main message & running off on a tangent — I hate when that happens.

    The videos are powerful.

    Block party/Memorial Day picnics will be just across the street; I’ll print fliers of some of the images you posted, especially the Israeli-origin items to BDS, and spread them around.

    Thanks again.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  434. FLgeezer says:
    @Momus

    >What about the hundred of US soldiers killed in Iraq by Iranian weapon factory produced IED’s?

    And who was it that tricked GWB into attacking Iraq? Your bros Mo. We would all benefit by a Momus of Silence.

    http://www.sobran.com/columns/2003/030325.shtml

    • LOL: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @Momus
  435. L.K says:
    @peterAUS

    ‘peter TheTroll aus’ to tac: “That you have zero real life experience with military/security stuff was obvious blah, blah, blah”

    Who do you think you impress with this sh*t, clown?
    You have zero real life military/security experience.

    You are merely a sad little liar, neocon propagandist, coward and keyboard commando… pretty obvious from your various BS posts re military matters…

    Joker.

  436. L.K says:
    @Momus

    pfffhahaHAHAHAHAHAHA, you are too funny!! Thanks for the laughs!

    I elect you the new hasbaraRat village idiot, displacing even the utterly pathetic iffen! Congrats!

    Prof. Faurisson wrote in his article The Detail:

    Eisenhower, Churchill, de Gaulle

    Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill’s The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of Nazi gas chambers is to be found.

    Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi “gas chambers,” a “genocide” of the Jews, or of “six million” Jewish victims of the war.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  437. Art says:
    @iffen

    You are not confusing apples with oranges, you are saying that rocks, apples and oranges are all the same thing.

    I am saying that Zionist Israel is a fascist nation – not unlike Nazi Germany was.

    Fascism is tribalism on steroids. Always bloody.

    That describes your Jewdi Israel – always bloody.

    In the last 70 years, Jews have been the victimizer, look at all the blood that has flowed around Israel.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  438. Iris says:
    @jacques sheete

    A troll who changes names, talks and replies to himself, and defends both sides of the argument to make the deception less detectable.

    All in the purpose of flooding the discussion thread and diluting the thought-provoking, intelligent comments in a sea of nonsense.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  439. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    These mean-spirited rogues are running America. Not one of them a Jew.

    The Jews are truly monsters.

    Art!
    The cup runneth over with your Christian Love, Peace, Hope, Healing and Idealism.

    Make fallowed hay while the darkness prevails. The light is coming. It always has. (Check Jew history.)

    Think Peace — Do No harm – Maintain Hope — Seek Idealism

    Take Heed — Art

  440. L.K says:

    Few people seem to realize the fact that there is a Zionist connection re the ZUSA’s threatening stance towards North Korea & that it involves Iran.

    Former MI6 spook and EU diplomat discusses it in the following article

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/03/22/is-north-korea-deal-stalking-horse-trump-mid-east-makeover.html

    …Trump, it seems, is emboldened sufficiently to try to unfold his ‘plan’ for Middle East peace. It is not so much a ‘plan’ in a conceptual sense, but rather a series of transactional steps that he seems to have in mind. But key to this sequencing, is the ‘seed’ planted by Mark Dubowitz and the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD), which is funded primarily by right-wing supporters of Israel, including billionaire Sheldon Adelson, a close ally of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. It is a long standing advocate for war on Iran.

    Politico describes Dubowitz as “a key outside adviser to the Trump Administration on Iran”. And the point on which Dubowitz has been insisting with Trump, is that any North Korean nuclear deal is intimately interconnected with the Iranian JCPOA – and that both ultimately connect to making peace in the Middle East.

    The FDD thesis is that “the Iran-North Korea axis dates back more than 30 years. The two regimes have exchanged nuclear expertise, cooperated widely on missile technologies, and run similar playbooks against Western negotiators. The fear: Tehran is using Pyongyang for work no longer permitted under the 2015 nuclear deal [i.e on nuclear warheads] while [Iran is] perfecting North Korean-derived missile delivery systems, back home [which are not covered by the JCPOA]”. Or, in other words, that Pyongyang has sub-contracted to itself the development of an ICBM capable nuclear warhead, whilst Tehran – on the other hand – is focused on developing missile capability. And this presumption of a division of labour between North Korea and Iran essentially is at the root of Trump’s demand that the Europeans must get Iran to relinquish the so-called ‘sunset clauses’, and the Iranian missile programme – lest Iran enable North Korea to achieve the capability to land a nuclear bomb on the US.

    Is there really this conspiracy? There may have been some co-operation years ago, in the era of Pakistan’s A. Q. Khan, but the FDD thesis is more speculation, than substance. North Korea’s and Iran’s aims differ: North Korea wants inter-continental missiles that can reach America. Iran doesn’t. It wants short and medium range missiles for self-defence. …

  441. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hey Jacques,

    The ‘Forgotten’ US Shootdown of Iranian Airliner Flight 655­
    By Jeremy R. Hammond | Jul 3, 2017

    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2017/07/03/the-forgotten-us-shootdown-of-iranian-airliner-flight-655%C2%AD/

    The Facts about the US Shootdown of Flight 655

    …The real story, in sum, is as follows:

    Twenty-nine years ago, on July 3, 1988, US warships entered Iranian waters and initiated hostilities with Iranian vessels.

    The consoles of the radar operators aboard the USS Vincennes at the time unambiguously showed an aircraft ascending within a commercial corridor in Iranian airspace, with the plane’s transponder signaling its identity as a commercial aircraft.

    Captain Rogers nevertheless ordered his gunner to open fire on the plane, shooting it out of the sky and killing the 290 civilians on board.

    Subsequently, rather than being held accountable for committing a war crime, Rogers and his entire crew received awards for their actions.

    Like Captain Rogers, the mainstream media establishment seems to suffer from institutional “scenario fulfillment”, in which this action did not constitute a war crime or, at best, an act of international terrorism.

    In the case of the media, the preconceived notion is that the US is an exceptional nation whose government is sometimes capable of “mistakes”, but only ever acts out of benevolent intent.

    It is an assumption that, while deemed axiomatic by the mainstream media establishment, is no less self-delusional than Captain Rogers’ imaginary scenario of this “forgotten” episode in US-Iran relations.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @RobinG
  442. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    The range of items appears quite exhaustive; from avocados to Levis jeans, Colgate toothpaste, McDonald’s, KFC, to Intel and IBM etc, etc.

    It would require steely determination on the part of the conscientious boycotter to appear unclothed, uninformed and unfed at the block party. To say nothing of halitosis – Colgate-Palmolive makes if I am not mistaken, about 90% of all oral hygiene products.

  443. @Momus

    Dwight Eisenhower

    A kiss ass West Pointer and dufus bureaucrat. Not a credible source for that. Sorry.

    Try Again.

    • Replies: @Momus
  444. @Art

    I am saying that Zionist Israel is a fascist nation – not unlike Nazi Germany was.

    Art, you mean, not unlike Nazi Germany was supposed to have been according to their enemies, the Bolshies. believe nothing of what they say, and question the rest.

    If you want to know what a fascist country was like, just look at how the USSR, the USA and GB treated their workers and compare that with how the Nazis treated theirs.

    This, too, is an excellent primer about how we’ve been duped and bullshitted for decade after decade.:

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.

    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Time
    Mr. Rothbard was an American Jew and an historian of the very highest caliber.

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

  445. @Iris

    That one is even more pathetic than the regular trolls here. Musta flunked outta Hasbara High School, and is trying desperately to earn it’s way back in. Bathos for sure, with benthos on the brain and not one useful comment here.

    PG is right about Iran but that one avoids the subject like the plague.

  446. peterAUS says:

    In meantime:

    https://www.cfr.org/blog/gaza-and-hamas-1

    Quotes from the article for busy people (bolds mine):

    Now Hamas has tried pushing masses of Gazans to the border fences, mixing its own armed men among them carrying grenades, guns, and other weapons. The goal was obviously to overrun the border, get into Israel, and (we know from testimony in the past few days) kill and destroy as much as possible. And now this tactic has failed as well. Israel defended its border: no one got through and all the loss was on the Palestinian side. Injuries to those trying to break through the border overwhelmed Gaza’s medical facilities, there were perhaps 60 deaths, and Hamas pulled back. On “Nakba Day” itself, Tuesday May 15, there was relative quiet. In the West Bank, there was little solidarity shown to Hamas: a couple of hundred demonstrators here and there, totaling under two thousand. There were no major demonstrations in Arab capitals.

    Hamas should stop throwing the people of Gaza into combat and stop attacking Israel. It should concentrate on economic recovery for Gaza, negotiating for more open borders that permit imports of needed goods and export of people and products.

    Misery in Gaza is not in Israel’s interest. The problem is that Hamas has thus far shown no interest in such a transformation from Islamist terrorist group into responsible government of Gaza.

    Hamas is Islamist.

    Asking the Hamas leadership to abandon the battle against the Jews is asking them to abandon their raison d’etre and their life’s work.

    Hamas is an Islamist terrorist group dedicated to the eliminating Israel, and will never agree to transform itself into a “normal” government.

    This leaves Israel and Egypt, and anyone else who is serious about avoiding more violence, with few good options.

    And, the only important part, really:

    There is no visible “solution” to the problem of Gaza, because it is today a small Islamist emirate governed by a terrorist organization.

    Now, should Hamas get replaced by something… normal…., perhaps a solution could, somehow, present itself.
    Not in my lifetime I am sure. Not “replacing”, just “normal”.

    I just have a feeling that the guys who created all this in ’48 were quite something.
    Must be smiling from above/under watching all this….us here included.

    • Replies: @Anon
  447. Art says:

    This is how America is run!

    GOP Hostility Toward Iran Secured After Adelson Gives $30 Million To Top Super PAC

    Sheldon Adelson – who says his issue is Israel – donated $30 million to a top Republican PAC.

    This may be the single largest campaign donation in U.S. history.
    Adelson influenced Trump to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and end the Iran nuclear agreements.

    Adelson-supported appointees include Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, & John Bolton, a close Adelson confidante. He was instrumental in removing Rex Tillerson and H.R. McMaster, due to their support for the Iran agreement

    by Whitney Webb, Mint Press News

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/gop-hostility-toward-iran-secured-after-adelson-gives-30-million-to-top-super-pac/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=93a2aad5-4d79-429a-8841-9aac9552d158

    Do not vote for people who receive this money.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Momus
  448. CalDre says:
    @Momus

    Gassings are proven to be a concocted fiction beyond any reasonable doubt – concocted by Stalin, who did not let any witnesses or defendants at Nuremberg visit any of the facilities while the Red Army constructed fake gas chambers to blame on their nemesis.

    Judicial notice? LOL. Yes there are some idiot judges who have done that, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Mermelstein , but it is a clearly erroneous application of the law. Given the Jewish death grip on “historical facts”, it’s not a surprise that many otherwise thoughtful people succumb to the propaganda. Judicial notice was never meant for disputed issues but for undisputed ones, such as, the fact that Los Angeles is located in California, or that 2016 is a leap year, or that 3 * 4 = 12. Undisputed facts.

    But if judges could decide historical fact, without evidence, we would never need trials, would we?

    If some Egyptian judge took “judicial notice” that the Protocols were true, I suppose that would prove to you, beyond any doubt, that they are, right? LOL. What a maroon!

  449. @Sam Shama

    In an Epistle to Manhattan Hebrews, the Maven Shama preached “The Good News,” in reverse:
    “It would require steely determination on the part of the conscientious boycotter to appear unclothed, uninformed and unfed at the block party. To say nothing of halitosis – Colgate-Palmolive makes if I am not mistaken, about 90% of all oral hygiene products.”

    (Zigh)

    As uptown elite-Jews rejected & wanted to kill Jesus, the Gospel of John (?) explains how the unclothed, the dumb goyim, & the unfed, would be invited to His Father’s “banquet.”

  450. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    link to the Pat Buchanan’s article, “Can a Pope Change Moral Truth?” — recall that Adelson was a significant supporter of Newt Gingrich’s presidential bid.

    Newt’s third wife, Callista, with whom he carried on an affair for six years before divorcing his second wife, was appointed by Trump to the Vatican ambassadorship.

    At Callista’s request, Newt’s 19-year marriage to Marianne was annulled on the basis that she had been married before. The annulment enabled Callista and Newt to marry in the Catholic church, where she was a life-long member and to which Newt converted under her influence.

    iow Adelson bought a spot for his man at Vatican.

  451. geokat62 says:

    Californians finally have an America-firster they can vote for:

    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
  452. @Sam Shama

    Hi Maven,

    Respectful of your family & prayer time at The Hasbara Cowboy Ranch, I have one more tempting thing:

    Selah, “Man shall not live by Colgate-Palmolive alone.”

  453. FLgeezer says:

    >As uptown elite-Jews rejected & wanted to kill Jesus, the Gospel of John (?) explains how the unclothed, the dumb goyim, & the unfed, would be invited to His Father’s “banquet.”

    Yes, and they have been very successful to the present in killing those who follow Him. Aren’t you proud SamScamMan?

    http://original.antiwar.com/vlahos/2009/11/16/iraqi-christians-seek-return-sense-extinction/

  454. renfro says:
    @Momus

    You poor fool….you think Eisenhower was specifically referring to the horrors for Jews?
    No he was expressing his revulsion to war and its atrocities as a whole.

    Eisenhower had no special regard for Jews and didn’t tolerate their interference. There will be another Eisenhower soon or later …and what will you jews and Israel do then?

    XVI, Suez Crisis, July 26–December 31, 1956, Document 475
    Eisenhower to Swede Hazlett11.
    Eisenhower Library, Whitman File,

    November 2, 1956
    (excerpt)

    ”As we began to uncover evidence that something was
    building up in Israel, we demanded pledges from Ben-Gurion that he would keep
    the peace. We realized that he might think he could take advantage of this
    country because of the approaching election and because of the importance that so many politicians in the past have attached to our Jewish vote.

    I gave strict orders to the State Department that they
    should inform Israel that we would handle our affairs exactly as though we
    didnt have a Jew in America. The welfare and best interests of our own country
    were to be the sole criteria on which we operated.”

    http://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1955-57v16/d475

    • Replies: @Momus
  455. @tac

    PS Home Depot is totally off-limits.

    Just got a $5 coupon from Home Depot. What imaginative thing shall I do with it?

    We shopped for stuff for the block party — passed up less expensive grass-fed ground beef from Australia in favor of more expensive beef NOT from Australia. Don’t want to risk exposure to whatever cooties have putrified peter aus’s brain.

    Likewise, we’ll avoid the racks and racks of Australian wine.

    btw, mint leaves, or vanilla, or bicarb of soda are superior breath fresheners.
    You guys wear clothes to neighborhood parties? Ours are au naturel.

    PS to peter aus: how considerate to summarize for “busy people.”
    I took a different approach.
    Ignore.

    • Replies: @tac
  456. @geokat62

    Thanks for posting this, geokat62.
    The female interviewer did not know how to handle someone who had not memorized the talking points.

    It takes only a few brave souls to get out ahead of the mob and start to turn it. It won’t be long until more congressional candidates are disqualified on the basis of their support for a foreign entity rather than the USA.
    What a concept.

  457. RobinG says:
    @L.K

    Thanks for that link. Here is Phil’s review of Jeremy Hammond’s book, Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

    “Given the intense focus and the passions aroused by the conflict it is rare to find a book or article that says something new but Jeremy Hammond’s Obstacle to Peace: The U.S. Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict does just that, deconstructing the prevailing narrative on the Middle East while also explaining in meticulous and fully documented detail why and how a succession of United States administrations has actually become the greatest impediment to a just settlement that would benefit both Palestinians and Israelis…. To my mind his book is essential reading on Israel-Palestine, joining the classic John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, Steven Sniegoski’s The Transparent Cabal and Alison Weir’s Against Our Better Judgement.” — Philip Giraldi, The Unz Review

    https://www.amazon.com/Obstacle-Peace-Role-Israeli-Palestinian-Conflict/dp/0996105816

    • Replies: @Iris
  458. Momus says:
    @FLgeezer

    You need to use block quote for coherent pots.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  459. Momus says:
    @jacques sheete

    Mate you are miles behind. Time to give up.

  460. MSNBC had an hour special (5/25) primarily on the deceit of Israel vis-a-vis Iran. Of course they didn’t state that… but they made it clear. How often do we see such programming (how about never)?
    It covered Mossad’s operation to steal Iran’s nuclear plans and allow Netanyahu to present new material in his no Iran nukes power point presentation. The former was apparently a success but the latter was not (old material by Netanyahu). He just happened to have a useful dupe in Trump.

    Other points of interest were interviews on the activities of “Black Cube” –Israeli private intel– who tried to smear Obama staffers charged with getting the Iran agreement done. And how the MEK cult from Iran has supposedly paid J.Bolton more than 150k for speaking engagements. Bolton is pledging regime change by the end of the decade (which is what they wanted to hear).

    • Replies: @Momus
  461. Momus says:
    @tac

    Millions die in the Holocaust and this twat is worried about a reporter with a thick ear. Too funny.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  462. Momus says:
    @Art

    Certainly good for the US and Israel that so many wealthy and influential people support such a righteous cause.

    The Muslim aligned, terror attack apologists and normaliser, pressure groups were ascendant under Obama. Now they have been slapped down hard and the proper, respectable US government functioning restored.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  463. I gave strict orders to the State Department that they
    should inform Israel that we would handle our affairs exactly as though we
    didnt have a Jew in America.

    Interesting comment. You highlighted one of the “eternal” verities of American politics.

    I’ve never had much respect for Eisenhower given the roles he filled, and his responsibility for the treatment of German POWs. but you’ve encouraged me to look into the guy.

    Politicians are notorious for saying one thing for public consumption and then doing exactly the opposite. I wonder if that was the case here even though it’s from a private letter.

  464. @Momus

    Millions die in the Holocaust and this twat is worried about a reporter with a thick ear. Too funny.

    What do you have against twats? You yourself probably came out of one. To cover the stench and disinfect you they must’ve dipped you in a solution of sodium hypochlorite immediately afterwards.

    However, I agree with you. Millions did die in the holocaust. Millions of Christians, that is, while the Marxists and millionaires came out smelling like roses.

    What can you tell us about the holodomor and the tens of millions of Christians murdered under Lenin and Stalin?

  465. @geokat62

    Great discovery of a non-Jew “fool’s gold” political peddler in California, geokat!

    Thank you.

  466. Momus says:
    @Mark James

    All good. Israel needs to go in hard on this. No one with a modicum of awareness doubts what the Iranians are attempting to do and JB is the man to remind them to behave.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  467. @Momus

    Mo(e)mus pontificates to Jacques Sheete:
    “Mate you are miles behind. Time to give up.”

    Had U.R. Comment Section a feature for selection of a most favored “Rookie Hasbara/Troll of The Week,” you’d own my vote!

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  468. Momus says:
    @renfro

    You poor fool….you think Eisenhower was specifically referring to the horrors for Jews?
    No he was expressing his revulsion to war and its atrocities as a whole.

    Eisenhower was in a Nazi concentration camp and went to great efforts to make sure the world new about the savage evil inflicted on it’s inmates.

    His concern that the horrific detail would be spun later was well enunciated and serves as a reminder to the rewriters and deniers, and Nazi apologists, that there is a painstakingly documented objective, and truthful history of the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  469. @Momus

    Certainly good for the US and Israel that so many wealthy and influential people support such a righteous cause.

    Righteous?

    English isn’t your native tongue, is it?

    Influential? I think you meant effluential.

  470. Hey, Mo (muss)…

    I’ve seen the Jewish future in Britain and it looks good. The next generation of Jewish leadership showed up in Parliament Square on 16th May and gave their elders a lesson in Jewish ethics and how to avoid compromise, timidity and hypocrisy when faced with a clear case of atrocity.They also began the long haul to rescue Judaism, and the Jewish community in Britain, from the dead hand of Zionism.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/prayed-mourners-zionism/

    Try to unsee that!

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  471. Attention, Hasbara Trolls.:

    Did you see this?:

    They also began the long haul to rescue Judaism, and the Jewish community in Britain, from the dead hand of Zionism.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/prayed-mourners-zionism/

    You Izzy firsters are going down. You’ve been duped by the scum of your nation. You’ll be tossed aside like used tissue paper when the goons in charge, the dead heads of Zionism, don’t need you any more.

    Don’t be a fool. Bail while you still can. Advocate and work for peace with Iran and everyone else.

    For you American Izzy firsters, the message is the same, and this applies too.:

    “Peace and friendship with all mankind is our wisest policy…”

    -Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1786. ME 5:310

    It’s our duty to make peace with Iran, especially since they are no threat to the US, never have been, are are not likely to be for quite some time if ever, especially if we abandon our provocations.

    “It is our duty still to endeavor to avoid war; but if it shall actually take place, no matter by whom brought on, we must defend ourselves…”

    -Thomas Jefferson to James Lewis, Jr., 1798. ME 10:37

    I think one of the best ways to cultivate peace and friendship with Israel is to remove the punch bowl, and introduce Israelis to the concepts of acceptable behavior and taking responsibility for one’s actions. Tough love demands that she pay for her transgressions.

    “It should be our endeavor to cultivate the peace and friendship of every nation, even of that which has injured us most, when we shall have carried our point against her.”

    -Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XXII, 1782. ME 2:240

    When will the US get the guts to discipline the kiddies?

    • Agree: Iris
  472. @Momus

    Mate you are miles behind. Time to give up.

    ROFL.

    You don’t know JS.

    PS: You’re still parotting threadbare Commie propaganda; who’s miles behind?

    Time to catch up if you can.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  473. Zumbuddi says:
    @jacques sheete

    Agree, especially wrt “parroting threadbare propaganda.”

    It’s a shame this Forum allowed itself to be distracted & diverted by such a run-of-he-mill hasbara machine tool, especially at the cost of the far more worthy topic at hand: the participation of a number of Americans in a calm, respectful and rational discussion with Iranians of the status and future of Iran-US-Israel-Palestine interactions.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Momus
  474. @Zumbuddi

    Agree.

    …calm, respectful and rational discussion…

    Those are words and concepts not found in the troll dictionary and attempting to address them in those ways is utterly futile. They persist in using methods that their close relatives the Bolshies used before they, (thank G-d), got tossed under the bus.

    Calumny, mockery, lies and distraction is all they have, and they’re not bright enough to understand that their cracks are showing.

    I hope they keep mouthing off and that they keep playing the anachronistic, outdated, obsolete fools.

  475. @L.K

    …one will find no mention either of Nazi “gas chambers,” a “genocide” of the Jews, or of “six million” Jewish victims of the war.

    Whereas the ones with intentions and fantasies of extermination were the Bolshies and other Marxist factions and their rich backers. Funny how little we hear of that.

    In 1939, Earnest A. Hooten, Rhodes scholar and the “pre-eminent” anthropologist of the early 20th century a “professor”at Harvard University, revived the Italian criminologist Lombroso’s “childishly naïve” theories in his book, Crime and the Man, which was based on misleading statistics.
    In 1943 Hooten penned an article headlined, “Breed War Strain Out of Germans” for the New York Daily newspaper. It advocated an “outbreeding” plan to “destroy German nationalism and ideology” by using the immigration of masses of non-European male to eradicate Germans.

    Theodore N. Kaufman, authored “Germany Must Perish,” and was a Manhattan-born businessman and chairman of the “American Federation for Peace.”

    2 of the chapters in his deranged sounding screed were titled, “5. ‘Blessed Are the War Makers’: and “7. Death to Germany.”

    In one leaflet headlined, “Kill,” Ilya Ehrenburg, Stalin’s propagandist, ranted:.

    The Germans are not human beings…We shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day… If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill him with your bayonet…If you kill one German, kill another – there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses… Kill.

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ehrenburg

    The usual murderous jokers picked a fight with Germany just like they want to instigate wars on Iran today. SSDD.

    Sick [email protected]

  476. Jacques wrote to L.K.: “The usual murderous jokers picked a fight with Germany just like they want to instigate wars on Iran today.”

    Hi Jacques,

    Presently, in the Jewish Corporate Media, all is eerily quiet on the issue of ratcheting up war on Iran & Syria.

    Under present forms of (somewhat) angry domestic & international pressure, I’m afraid the Trump administration will soon rely upon a major False Flag attack to get done what Adelson, Netanyahu & PNAC demands.

    Thanks!

  477. I disagree with my earlier over-enthusiastic endorsement of Patrick Little.

    I’ve since read a bit more about him, specifically, a Newsweek interview
    ttps://katana17.wordpress.com/2018/05/07/patrick-little-interview-with-newsweek-apr-30-2018-transcript/

    Based on that, and on all the inside-baseball white nationalist stuff, I don’t think he’s ready for prime-time.

    I also have to acknowledge that I know very little about the entire spectrum of white nationalism/Alt-Right and all the personalities involved.

    Opposition to Jewish power in the USA and in foreign power is an extremely important topic that demands serious attention.

    The interviewer in the Newsweek article tried to bait Little to advocate violence against Jews; Little had worked out the basic shape of a response, but not the most effective one, imo, and the response he seems to be working on is not well articulated.

    Little responds to questions of violence by turning to the notion of Force, and that the State is empowered to use Force to enforce its laws:

    Newsweek: Do you advocate violence against Jews? In a deportation process or whatever that would be?
    Little: Do I advocate, …? No! The state has to use force though. If things are law, they need to be enforced, and ultimately government is the threat of force.

    In my opinion, Little would do well to spend some serious time composing a comprehensive response to “Are-you-a-neo Nazi-Do-you-deny-the-Holocaust-What- should- be- done- about- JQ and do- you- advocate- violence” by focusing on Free Speech:

    If the history of the wars in Europe

    AND

    the truth about 9/11 and the Terror Wars it kicked off

    were openly, honestly and objectively researched, discussed, robustly debated, rather than censored, criminalized, brutalized, then no impulse for violence would exist.

    People WILL be heard, one way or the other: you censors out there: CHOOSE: free speech or violence.

    The “neo-Nazis” in Charlottesville were not permitted to speak!
    Philip Zelikow, specialist in mythologies who oversaw the whitewash report on 9/11 is now director of the Miller Center at University of Virginia at Charlottesville.

    The zionists are in control of Thomas Jefferson’s legacy!

    Trump was roundly denounced for saying “there was blame on both sides, and good people on both sides.”
    That is what the US system of Equal Justice Under Law is supposed to stand for.

    —–
    Donald Rumsfeld said, “You go to war with the army you have.”

    Little — and Nehlen, and some others — have put themselves out there, conversant in ideas and positions many on Unz Forum endorse.
    They are not perfect.
    We would do well to get behind them; summon similar courage to give up our “$100,000/year jobs,” as Little has done; hold meetings and conferences where ideas and knowledge can be shared — consider the impact Kevin McDonald’s book had on Little!
    We can do media trainings.
    We can frame the issue and shape the narrative OUR way.

    I can hear RobinG saying, How are you going to do that?

    We can start by communicating with Patrick Little and Paul Nehlen.

    Write a White Paper (no pun intended) and send it to them.

    If you have the ability — geographically, financially, knowledge-wise, socially — meet up with other UF participants, put your heads together and compose something to pass along to Little and Nehlen.

    There’s a lot of talent on this forum; it should be organized and empowered.

  478. Presently, in the Jewish Corporate Media, all is eerily quiet on the issue of ratcheting up war on Iran & Syria.

    Under present forms of (somewhat) angry domestic & international pressure, I’m afraid the Trump administration will soon rely upon a major False Flag attack to get done what Adelson, Netanyahu & PNAC demands.

    True. And I don’t trust the scum for a second because it’s only a matter of time before they deal with both according to the “Libyan model.” (Which they did to Germany via the rapacious “Peace Treaty.”:

    Trump Adopts Hillary Clinton’s Foreign Policy

    …the lying neocon buffoon with the Captain Kangaroo mustache, [and brain,if any], John Bolton, … says he favors “the Libyan model” for dealing with North Korea. The “Libyan model” was authored by none other than Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama: Dupe Libya into getting rid of its nuclear weapons, promising to be nice in return, then orchestrate the savage and brutal public murder of the Libyan president with whom they made the deal. Then crow that “We came, we saw, he died!” and chuckle your head off about it, as Hillary Clinton did on video.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/trump-adopts-hillary-clintons-foreign-policy/

  479. Momus says:
    @Zumbuddi

    I’m up for the US/Iran discussion as well: Giraldi has trolled himself by including Israel in the discussion.

    There is no particular enmity between the Iran and Israeli people. In fact there is a lot of support for Israel among the significant minority population in Iran. Obviously the Iranian leadership are martial, theocratic lunatics who have wrecked the economy and probably the social fabric of their country in the increasingly dangerous persuit of nukes and ICBM’S. Their unforgiveable aggression against the US and numerous terror attacks against Israel makes for a shared enemy and a serendipitous confluence of interests (A 3 way confluence increasingly given Putin’s noticeable shift now that the heavy work in Syria seems done). I doubt that the Shiite mullahs have any real interest in the debased and leaderless Sunni Palestinians except as expendable anti Israel irritants. Observations on the presence of a fence causing enforced Palo euthanasia rather than diabolical Israeli behaviour need to be made. At least floppy prop the baby has been debunked not teargassed.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  480. @jacques sheete

    I’d liked to have seen ‘jews condemn ethnic cleansing, land theft, and the Gaza concentration camp’.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  481. Zumbuddi says:

    Bully for you.
    You may be “up for” discussing Iran Israel, but you have nothing useful to say, and nobody cares to engage with you anyway: we’ve already been over ecposed to the billet-doux from Bibi’s butt that inform your threadbare propaganda.
    Maybe you have halitosis?

    It is the case that many Persians feel protective of Jews: that speaks to the character of the Iranian people.

    While Jews in Iran may “support” Israel in some vague sense, their vote with their feet is telling: they think of themselves as Iranians First, to the point of resisting large bribes to aliyeh.

    As to the nature & effectiveness of Iran’s leadership and economy, a. that’s for the Iranian people to decide; b. what irony — a Jew criticizes Iran’s economy. Jews have been using US institutions to destroy Iran’s economy since at least 1995, while simultaneously propping up Israel’s cleptocratic economy at the expense of American and German taxpayers.

    The rest of your comment is “toss it to the wall and see if it sticks” junk: it slides right off.

    A lot of us at Unz Forum have a great deal of respect for Dr. Giraldi and the wisdom he has shared over many years. In civilized societies, it is expected that outsiders refrain from demeaning such respected leaders.

  482. @Momus

    Did not jew Eisenhower know that FDR was brought into politics by Bernard Baruch to wage war ?
    Dit he not give E Germany, the later DDR, to Stalin by ordering USA troops not to advance further ?
    Did he also not give Prague to Stalin ?
    USA jeeps had been in Prague.
    Whatever, he killed about a million German POW’s.
    In a letter he wrote ‘we should have killed more Germans’.
    About Eisenhowers atrocities on POW’s read:
    James Bacque, ´Der geplante Tod, Deutsche Kriegsgefangene in amerikanischen und französischen Lagern 1945 – 1946, Frankfurt/M, 1989, 1994 (Other losses, Toronto, 1989)
    Charles A. Lindbergh, ´The Wartime Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh’, New York, 1970
    or look at the pictures of Eisenhower’s open air POW camps
    Heinz Leiwig, ´Deutschland Stunde Null, Historische Luftaufnahmen 1945’, Stuttgart 2005
    As to the terrible situation in the camps, from early 1945 on no transport was possibe in Germany, because of USA fighter bombers, so also no food to the camps.
    See Stephen Jay Gould on Bergen Belsen in
    Wim Kayzer, ‘Een Schitterend Ongeluk, Wim Kayzer ontmoet Oliver Sacks, Stephen Jay Gould, Stephen Toulmin, Daniel C. Dennett, Rupert Sheldrake en Freeman Dyson’, 1993 Amsterdam.
    Jew Gould in WWII was RAF scientific advisor.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @RVBlake
  483. peterAUS says:
    @Momus

    Obviously the Iranian leadership are martial, theocratic lunatics who have wrecked the economy and probably the social fabric of their country…

    Yup.

    I doubt that the Shiite mullahs have any real interest in the debased and leaderless Sunni Palestinians except as expendable anti Israel irritants.

    Actually, that applies to everybody in the region. They all see Palestinians as expendable anti Israel irritants., and nothing more.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  484. Zumbuddi says:
    @peterAUS

    Two interesting observations, Peter AUS.

    Please tell us more: What is the basis for them?

    Is the evidence Open Source or do you have access to secret intelligence?

    Unz Forum truly would like to know the basis for these conclusions of yours.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  485. Momus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Eisenhower is now a Jew according to what reckoning? Where? Who was his Rabbi? What year was his Bar Mitzvah?

    James Bacque’s work on Eisenhower has been thoroughly debunked in forensic detail by numerous professional historians and researchers. As deniers here are fond of saying: show us the remains of the dead? He is as credible as Dr Suess’s The Cat In The Hat on the subject.

    You mark yourself as an eldritch anti semitic hater without decency or reverence by such slander.

    As is well understood the allies under Eisenhower in the immediate aftermath of WW11 had to feed a lot more people than simple geography and demographics suggested. German troops fled in their millions to escape the tender mercies of the Red Army for the relative benevolence of the Americans, French and British.

    Food rationing was continued for years after the war in countries as relatively unaffected as Australia and New Zealand

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @dcite
  486. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Trump was roundly denounced for saying “there was blame on both sides, and good people on both sides.”
    And pitiful Martin O’Malley was denounced for saying, “All lives matter.”

    We can start by communicating with Patrick Little and Paul Nehlen.
    Little could use some help, all right. If he were posting at UR, he’d be suspected of hasbara, the variety that discredits anti-Zionists.

  487. @SolontoCroesus

    S2C reminded us: “Donald Rumsfeld said, “You go to war with the army (amor!) you have.”

    Hi SolontoCroesus,

    At present as ZUS has soft war ongoing against us dumb goyim, our formidable armor is that which is beneath our rib cages.

    When the hard war phase begins, we might do well by relying upon & donning what Paul called the “Armor of God.”

    Thanks.. trust I’m not being excessively obstructionist as dearest RobinG.

  488. peterAUS says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Two interesting observations, Peter AUS.

    Not really.

    Please tell us more:

    Define “us”.
    I’ll help:
    Jew haters, mostly, doing “online therapy”.
    West haters and Islamists of all sorts, most of the rest. Pushing their agenda.
    Several Jews and Jew lovers pushing their agenda. Tiny minority here.
    A couple of guys trying to make sense of all of that. A very tiny minority.

    What is the basis for them?

    Observing.

    Is the evidence Open Source or do you have access to secret intelligence?

    Visible reality.

    Unz Forum truly would like to know the basis for these conclusions of yours.

    Don’t flatter yourself, yet. You aren’t the UNZ Forum. Yet.
    Dynamics does tend to squeeze dissenting minority out. Most of the time. The catch is, that does require owner/mods help too.
    Here, unique on the Internet, I haven’t, still, seen that. Free speech.
    As for direct answer it’s simple: Your ilk can’t get it and never will. That majority above.
    For the rest, that minority, it’s obvious.

    And, just to really make things clear, some of us aren’t here to feel cozy and mix with friends. The usual.
    All we want is to get some useful info and insight. Provide some in return (sounds fair exchange I guess).
    And….I know that will sound crazy for your types, but, so far, I’ve got the most of those actually from people I don’t see as friends and mostly disagree.

    What your types really can’t get it is that developing echo chamber works against you.

    Well, that’s why you are where you are and some other people rule the world.

    Back to the topic:
    Hamas failed. Israel won this round, again. Compliments. Pity some other countries/peoples can’t do the same/similar.
    Iranian theocracy has a big problem. It will get bigger, rather soon.

    • Agree: Momus
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  489. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Average Israeli IQ is 94. Please note that all the hosanna in excelsious dei praises of high Jewish IQ apply only to Ashkenazi Jews, not Sephardi Mizrahi, or Persian jews

    I’ve never seen exactly where the proof of that high Ashkenazi IQ comes from. Only thing I’ve seen is a New York city 1920s gifted public school test that included goyim as well as Jewish kids who went to that school.

    • Replies: @Momus
  490. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    Reason the soviet soldiers didn’t retreat is that behind the lines were mostly Jewish communist commissars whose purpose was to kill any soviet soldiers who started to retreat. The commissars were better armed than the regular soldiers

    It’s not uncommon. Alexander the Great and his father Phillip used that tactic. They probably didn’t invent it.
    The Prussians did it too.The first French revolutionary army that invaded the Germans on the northern border used that tactic too.

  491. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Momus

    I’ve read most of Eisenhower’s observations of the camps. They were indeed horrible and the condition of the prisoners also horrible.

    But he. Never mentioned that Jews were in those camps, just prisoners in terrible condition

  492. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    Sounds like a good plan to me too bad it didn’t succeed.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  493. Momus says:
    @Anon

    It’s out there, that IQ information. :-)

    Try sources later than the 1920′s

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  494. RVBlake says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Eisenhower Jewish? Wikipedia states that Ike’s paternal line was Pennsylvania Dutch, from Karlsbrunn, Germany. His mother was of German Protestant lineage.

  495. Wikipedia states…

    There’s yer problem. Never, ever, depend on Wiki for a source on subjects like that.

  496. @Momus

    You need to use block quote for coherent pots.

    Look who’s talking “coherence!”

    Hahahahaha!

  497. @Momus

    Eisenhower is now a Jew according to what reckoning? Where? Who was his Rabbi? What year was his Bar Mitzvah?

    And I was told by a rabbi that one is a Jew if his/her mother was one. Now it appears that to be a Jew one has to have a rabbi and a bar/bat mitzvah.

    What gives?

  498. @Momus

    It’s out there, that IQ information.

    Yeah, it’s out there for sure.

    Waaaay out there!

    ROFL.

  499. @Momus

    Israel’s never gone in hard on anything other than begging the US to fight their wars for them while they collect war profits. Well, on 2nd thought, they DID go in hard scrambling back out of Lebanon in 2006, with Hezbollah hot on their asses. And, take note of the fact they haven’t made that mistake again.

  500. peterAUS says:
    @Anon

    Sounds like a good plan to me too bad it didn’t succeed.

    You mean

    I just have a feeling that the guys who created all this in ’48 were quite something.
    Must be smiling from above/under watching all this….us here included.

    At last somebody here at the root of the…..thing. Maybe. Let’s see.

    It, apparently, was an exceptionally good plan. I’ll say it IS an exceptionally good plan, and, most likely, will be the same in years to come.

    Having said that, I am not quite sure that what you and me see as the plan is the same.

    So, assuming you believe (yes, I know about assumptions) that the plan was to (re)settle Jews in a place they can call a country, well, the plan didn’t work quite well and it wasn’t a good plan at all.

    Now, assuming that the plan was, actually, something else (giving Jews a country just a sidenote), then, I must admit, it was, is and will be a very good plan for some time to come.

    Makes sense?

  501. @peterAUS

    Again, peterAUS pontificates: “Iranian theocracy has a big problem. It will get bigger, rather soon.
    • Agree: Momus”

    (Zigh)

    My, my. Yes, a “big problem.” I agree with the two (2) nuts above! Why? The Western Zionist Axis of Nuclear Evil (ZUS, UK, & France) are frothing at the mouth, “Death to the Islamic Republic of Iran!”
    (Zigh) That’s Iran’s biggest problem.

    But in classic bait & switch tactic, i.e., “Hey, Homer, look over there and see how fucked up is Iran…,” —
    The terminally cocksure and ideologically blind, peterAUS, wants to further convince “dumb goyim,” ZAmericans that everything is beautiful with swinish Zionist Jews running our country deeper into hell.

    Am so sick of him that… Oh fuck him, gotta’ “move on” as recommended in the Johnny Cash song, (Zigh), “AUS don’t know ‘nuttin, move on!”

    For all here who peterAUS childishly proclaimed that we gather here for “online therapy, below is a terrific (lengthy) Veterans Today article which intelligently describes a “big problem” for ZUS’s 1st Amendment’s longevity. Worth the time & mental energy expended to read and further enhance awareness!

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/05/25/an-evil-agenda-stabs-at-the-heart-of-the-1st-amendment-senate-and-congressional-supporters-of-senate-bill-720-israel-an

    Selah, uh…, “get away from peterAUS, Satan!”

  502. But in classic bait & switch tactic, i.e., “Hey, Homer, look over there and see how fucked up is Iran…,” —

    Anything to divert our attention away from the goons in Israel and their mass murdering of harmless Palestinians in cold blood.

    More “bleeped” up…

    On June 1st in Las Vegas, at least a thousand people are expected to participate in the world’s biggest orgy ever. Couples must pay $200, and it’s $25 for single women. Since no single men are allowed, the incels can stay home and seethe.

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/dreamers-opioids-and-involuntary-celibates/

    The US and Israel; pigsties of the world. MAGA indeed and it reinforces the meaning of ‘Merkin.”

    How much lower can we sink?

    • Agree: Iris
  503. Iris says:
    @RobinG

    Many thanks, RobinG, for bringing this book to attention.

  504. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Write a White Paper (no pun intended) and send it to them.

    Great idea, S2C. I’d recommend taking the Newsweek and NBC interviews as templates for the kinds of queries mass media are likely to put to candidates like Little and Nehlen and we (Unzers who are interested) should take a crack at drafting what we consider to be “ideal” responses.

    Perhaps we could resurrect the LFTL vehicle for doing so. Once we finalize a set of responses we could send it to both Little and Nehlen as well as other prospective candidates that are America-firsters.

    If Phil is ok with this proposal, perhaps we could recruit Chuck to join our little group.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  505. @geokat62

    To SolontoCroesus, geokat suggested: “If Phil is ok with this proposal, perhaps we could recruit Chuck (me) to join our little group.”

    Hi geo,

    Above, you honor me, am grateful. Of course the voice of several other U.R. commenters are very worthy to participate.

    Just a fair heads-up, in late Summer 2016, I accepted an invitation to participate in the Vincent Salandria Forum. The panel consisted of esteemed writers, academics, and medical professionals.

    As a part-time school bus driver for Scranton School District, I began to offer Forum comments which troubled other participants including the honorable Vince Salandria who (in polite language) recommended that I go back to driving school bus.

    As a constructive warning to P.G. regarding my personality, below I link an article which objectively described my virgin-Forum experience:

    https://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2016/11/27/jfk-and-me-cleaning-out-the-swamp-an-ax-to-grind-with-toxins-left-behind-in-permindex-basement.php

    P.S. :
    Right or wrong, within the article is Vince Salandria’s sincere view on Jack (Ruby) Rubinstein’s killing of Oswald & general American-intellectual fears for dumb goyim outraged reaction & potential pogroms.

    Thanks geo, S2C… & P.G.!

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @jacques sheete
  506. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Right or wrong, within the article is Vince Salandria’s sincere view on Jack (Ruby) Rubinstein’s killing of Oswald & general American-intellectual fears for dumb goyim outraged reaction & potential pogroms.

    Hey, Chuck. Facinating read… thanks for sharing.

    (Sigh) One chance to dialogue with a real dissident hero (non-Controlled Opposition?) of the Warren Commission Report, and after having mentioned “Third Rail” Israeli complicity, I blew it!

    While I was surprised you hadn’t used your trademark “Zigh,” I must disagree with your assessment that you “blew it.” The truth supersedes any dialogue with any “real dissident hero,” no matter who it is.

    That said, I very much enjoyed your concluding paragraph:

    To conclude, I for one pause in respect before the terrible medicine of Vincent Salandria. By his words, 21st Century Americans can reflect upon the fact that during the end moment of JFK’s presidency, “the U.S. left wing was Jewish… and (painfully) settled for the “lone assassin myth” for fear of a pogrom. At the dawn of President Trump’s election, the American left tends to shy away from his very open record of (too) close unity with Sheldon Adelson and Israeli P.M. Benjamin Netanyahu. I shudder at the thought of what ultimate violent Western wars and U.S. taxpayer supported Muslim Liberation Pogroms lay in store for The Islamic Republic of Iran… which will be necessary to complete the creed of territorial expansion, a “Greater Israel.” By serving the policy ends of False Flag dependent and wealthy nuke weapon power Israel, “Bam,” the American nation self inflicts a pogrom upon it’s soul.

    As long as you keep telling the truth, Chuck, I have no issues having you as a “comrade in arms.”

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  507. @geokat62

    geokat,

    Especially during TV Zio interviews and Q&A sessions, no one possesses an interior polygraph (lie/truth detector).

    Nonetheless, posing Comment Commando “team” questions to the unorthodox Mr. Nehlen would, at minimum, constructively show him where we are coming from!

    That’s not too shabby, eh?

    F.y.i., it’s hard for me to even believe that an intelligent freak, like for example, John Bolton, actually is a “True Believer” in the Beast he serves, and then comfortably looks at himself during Colgate-Palmolive morning shaves.

    So whatever proceeds, geo, in the words of Carly Simon, “You’ve got a friend (comrade) in me.”

    Thank you!

    Selah, “I won’t hurt you, won’t desert you, so just take my (calloused) hand if you’ll let me…”

  508. @ChuckOrloski

    I hope yer (coyly) dropping a few hints to the kiddies on the skool bus now and then, Chuck!

    Interesting read even though I know nothing about the details of the assassination. I pretty much always assumed that the Warren Commission, like all others, was B.S. and coverup, and that I’d never be privy to the real reasons he was killed.

    One of the other lessons to be learned from this is that presidents have no more control over events than the man in the moon. They must do as they’re told or else. So voting for one as the Messiah is worse than futile, it’s infantile.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  509. Art says:

    Is this true?

    US House bans Trump from declaring war on Iran without Congress’s approval

    The US House of Representatives has unanimously passed an amendment that bans President Donald Trump from declaring a war on Iran without the Congress’s approval.

    The bipartisan amendment on Wednesday received approval from the House as part of the US National Defense Authorization Act of 2019.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/25/562896/US-House-Representatives-war-Iran-Donald-Trump-JCPOA

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @RobinG
  510. @jacques sheete

    Hi Jacques,

    South Side Scranton there is located J.F.K. Elementary School.

    F.y.i., during school year 2016, I asked a Scranton School Principal what is taught regarding JFK’s assassination and Oswald as the “Lone Gunman.”

    He informed me that the government curriculum recommends, “the teaching of the Warren Commission judgement is standard, however individual teachers are permitted reasonable latitude.”

    Thanks so much, Jacques!

  511. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Yes, it’s true. The unanimous part is what’s amazing.

    ” A bipartisan amendment introduced by Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) and cosponsored by Reps. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Ro Khanna (D-CA), Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Jim McGovern (D-MA) and Walter Jones (R-NC) passed the U.S. House as part of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2019″

    https://ellison.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/us-house-makes-clear-that-there-is-no-authorization-for-use-of-military

    OTOH, a related Amendment failed to pass.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/h220

    Gabbard’s pre-vote press release -

    https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/video-rep-tulsi-gabbard-urges-congress-oppose-authorization-war-against-iran

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Art
    , @Art
  512. Another angle on the possible shooting war on Iran.

    Perhaps [Netanyahu] will be able to restrain himself and not lead us into a war with Iran – a war which will be lost by both sides. It would be a destructive, a catastrophic war. Perhaps Bibi is clever enough to avoid this trap. Unless the criminal investigations against him come too close to trial and his future becomes too endangered. War is always the last refuge of a nationalist ruler.

    Even without war, Bibi’s course is leading towards an apartheid state. There is just no other possibility. The “Jewish Nation-State” from the Mediterranean Sea to the desert, with an Arab majority that will inexorably grow, until the balance of power within the state turns, the international situation changes, and the willpower of the herrenvolk weakens.

    That has happened in history again and again, and that will happen to us. The Jewish State will turn into a bi-national state, with a shrinking Jewish minority, since Jews will not want to live in such a country.

    -Uri Avnery, The Luck of the Gambler

    http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1527250202/

    Like I said, the goon State of Israel is making itself more abominable by the day and will wind up in the outhouse of history, though not soon enough.

  513. @peterAUS

    WHAT THE EXPERTS ARE NOT DISCUSSING – ISRAEL, RUSSIA, CHINA & IRAN, BELT & ROAD INITIATIVE AND HOW THIS IS AFFECTING THE MIDDLE EAST

    They are all co-operating. Especially Israel, Russia and China. Israel is using stolen US high technology to make itself indispensable in the $7.2 trillion dollar economic development of the Eurasian, African and Middle Eastern economic belt.

    Israel will have FULL control over these countries critical infrastructure and Internet Of Things.

    ISRAELS SECRET WEAPON THE TALPIOT PROGRAM
    Israel’s complete domination of the high technology sector and how it makes Israel a world power.

    ISRAELI DRONES WORLD WIDE
    One hour video on the intruiging goings on between Israel, Russia, China and Iran amongst others. High technology transfers and Israel providing technology for the $7.2 trillion Belt & Road Initiative.

    THE TIMES OF ISRAEL – CHINA ISRAEL HIGH TECH CO-OPERATION

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/china-israel-technology/#

    If China and Russia are the new sworn enemies of the United States, how is it Israel – the bestest friend ever of the U.S – is supplying both these countries with technology Israel stole off the United States?

    I was in Iran for three months and was being groomed to work with Iranian Government analysts at The Persian Gulf Studies Centre. I was also being groomed for a show on Press TV. It was a bizarre experience. I see why they call Iran, “North Korea lite”.

    What is not being discussed here is The Belt & Road Initiative (BRE). Or, One Belt One Road (OBOR) as it was formally known, and its primary role as the bubble in which these Middle Eastern events are unfolding.

    China has been given $7.2 trillion to play with by The City of London and Lord Jacob Rothschild. Israel has THE primary role as high technology provider for this project – and no one is talking about it.

    You’d think there would be some “narrative” about this in the “expert” analysis by all these intelligence guys over there? We’ve tried contacting them ten million times. Maybe the emails don’t get through?

    Aircraft from Kuala Lumpur to Tehran three times per week are filled with Chinese business men. They are all over the airport and the streets of Tehran – no one talks about this as an important over all aspect of this Middle Eastern “re-shaping” of the area?

  514. @Biff

    No. Iranians are pretty stupid. They are not encouraged to learn English. I met Iranian government analysts from The Persian Gulf Studies Center. I was to work with them after being given political asylum.

    They were far more interested in going after Saudi Arabia than they were going after Israel.

    They simply had zero clue. Nice people – I loved them personally.

    I met a Colonel from passport and border control – allegedly a Mr Housseine. Again, ZERO clue. He asked why i did not apply for asylum in Germany :-D

    There is a clique of disaspora Iranians who are very clued up and they keep the rest of the country as dumb as possible.

    The “revolution” was a Rothschild private intelligence conspired revolution coming out of a Paris commune followed by a German intelligence documentary crew.

    Iran has an extremely close relationship with Swiss and German banks. Iranians also LOVE Germany. Haj for an Iranian is a trip to Berlin.

    Like in so many issues, we have polarization. Iran is either loved or despised. It deserves neither. It plays it’s games along with everyone else.

    The greatest friend of Israel is Iran – a country that funds Hizbollah, a group that goose steps and Hitler salutes on cue, screaming they will rain down 80,000 missiles on Israel – keeping Bi Bi in power and israeli’s terrified.

    Iran has a military industrial complex just like Israel and both need them to stimulate their high technology sector.

    Lord Jacob Rothschild and “The Great Game”, the “Grand Chessboard,” and by the ignorence shown on this message board, we are all his pawns.

    • Troll: L.K, tac
    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @ChuckOrloski
    , @tac
  515. Miro23 says:
    @RobinG

    Yes, it’s true. The unanimous part is what’s amazing.

    ” A bipartisan amendment introduced by Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) and cosponsored by Reps. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Ro Khanna (D-CA), Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Jim McGovern (D-MA) and Walter Jones (R-NC) passed the U.S. House as part of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2019″

    https://ellison.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/us-house-makes-clear-that-there-is-no-authorization-for-use-of-military

    WASHINGTON —On Tuesday night, the House unanimously passed an amendment making clear Congress’s position that no law exists which gives the President power to launch a military strike against Iran. Today, that amendment passed the U.S. House as part of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2019.
    “The unanimous passage of this bipartisan amendment is a strong and timely counter to the Trump administration’s withdrawal from the Iran deal and its increasingly hostile rhetoric,” Rep. Ellison said. “This amendment sends a powerful message that the American people and Members of Congress do not want a war with Iran. Today, Congress acted to reclaim its authority over the use of military force.”

    There are plenty of cross currents here.

    The US House of Representatives unanimously vote by following AIPAC instructions, and the Neo-cons want an Iran war, so what’s going on?

    The only explanation is that it’s a set up. When we get the False Flag, Congressmen can present themselves to the electorate as reluctant warriors; “We never wanted this war- look at our amendment! But… blah, blah… it’s our Patriotic Duty”.

    That way they vote for war but deflect the blame (with the subtext that these are late stage preparations and the False Flag is imminent ).

    The more interesting angle is the attitude of the European Plutocracy. They’re fine with Russia and Iran and appreciate the stability brought by the Iran Nuclear Agreement. They don’t want Israel (nominally the US) dictating to them, threatening them with sanctions, or bringing the bad economic disruption of an Iran war.

    Also, they know about the fakery of 9/11 and are signaling to Israel (US) that they don’t want a repeat performance.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Art
  516. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Yes, it’s true. The unanimous part is what’s amazing.

    Thanks RobinG,

    Yes’ amazing! They are all up for reelection in six months.

    For these politicians – the only thing more powerful then Jew money – is informed mad voters!

    Of course, it is not report by the Jew MSM – but clearly “The People” do NOT want another war. (Where are the poll numbers?)

    Now that they can tell the voters they voted against war – they can kill it some midnight. (Sorry about the sarcasm.)

    Think Peace — Art

  517. Art says:
    @RobinG

    RobinG – an aside.

    Former Prime Minister of Israel – Ehud Barak was on cspan yesterday.

    It was at a NYC synagogue – syrupy female rabbi – obnoxious interviewer – Jew audience – menacing armed guards – the whole nine yards.

    The interviewer asked Barak about Kushner’s Palestinian peace initiative – with total disrespect – the NY Jew audience, spontaneously busted out laughing.

    Cracked me up – it was to funny.

    Think Peace — Art

  518. Art says:
    @Miro23

    Also, they know about the fakery of 9/11 and are signaling to Israel (US) that they don’t want a repeat performance.

    Miro23,

    You are so right on — there will be another major false flag coming to America forcing us to war..

    Destroying Iran is at the top of the list of the Zionist objective.

    When that happens – the Palestinians will then disappear, completing the Zionist project.

    Think Peace — Art

  519. RobinG says:
    @Brendon O'Connell

    Australia gave you three years in jail for anti-Jewish video statement? Harsh.

    “Fakers” – Australian White Nationalist Coddled By Alex Jones

    • Replies: @Brendon O'Connell
  520. @Brendon O'Connell

    They are all co-operating. Especially Israel, Russia and China. Israel is using stolen US high technology to make itself indispensable in the $7.2 trillion dollar economic development of the Eurasian, African and Middle Eastern economic belt.

    Israel is no doubt not only using stolen US technology, it’s been stealing from the US since its beginning. Its theft of Palestine was no doubt supported with stolen resources as well.

    Goldberg conducted a hugely-respectful interview of Lester Crown, 88. And well he should be respectful. Crown is a Chicago billionaire and eminent supporter of Israel who vouched for Obama in the Jewish community when Israel supporters were suspicious of Obama in ’08; and Crown has a hawkish view on Iran and pushes that view through the Council on Foreign Relations and the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.

    -Philip Weiss, Was it ‘jihad’ when Henry Crown smuggled plane parts to Israel?,July 29, 2013 27

    http://mondoweiss.net/2013/07/was-it-jihad-when-henry-crown-smuggled-plane-parts-to-israel-and-when-jeffrey-goldberg-moved-there.html

    Nixon papers suggest Israel stole nuclear material from US in 1965, and more

    “The Israeli press is picking up Grant Smith’s revelation from FBI documents that Benjamin Netanyahu was part of an Israeli smuggling ring that spirited nuclear triggers out of the U.S. in the 80s and 90s.”

    mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-from-u-s-big-story-in-israel.html

    Wake up, America!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  521. @Brendon O'Connell

    Brendon O’Connell attempted to educate little peterAUS by writing:
    “What is not being discussed here is The Belt & Road Initiative (BRE). Or, One Belt One Road (OBOR) as it was formally known, and its primary role as the bubble in which these Middle Eastern events are unfolding.”

    Re,”What the experts are not discussing;” Fascinating insight into International Jewry’s-inner-labyrinth misdeeds, Brendon.
    Much obliged!

    Today I read Paul Craig Roberts latest excellent article which, for your consideration, I post below.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/

    International Jewry controls the economics of the West… or else.

    Paul Craig Roberts article is ultra-informative but for reasons unknown to me & perhaps others, PCR hesitates to recommend that, in order for President Putin to liberate Russia from the West’s Jewish-dominated neoliberal (Chicago School of Economics), the Way is National Socialism economics.

    No doubt, a boiling & untouchable “hot potato,” I remain confounded as to why PCR has yet to declare that a possible remedy for America’s killer-debt crisis is National Socialism.

    A question, please Brendon O’Connell?

    Is the plague of Globalization so institutionally enduring that serious & prestigious challenges are met with contempt & perhaps worse?

    P.S. My special appreciation for this: “China has been given $7.2 trillion to play with by The City of London and Lord Jacob Rothschild. Israel has THE primary role as high technology provider for this project – and no one is talking about it.”

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Brendon O'Connell
  522. @Brendon O'Connell

    Hi Brendon O’CONNELL,

    Regret I failed to post the actual referenced article written by Paul Craig Roberts. Refer below?

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/05/25/americas-fifth-column-will-destroy-russia/

    In addition, in my final sentence, by accident, I left out the threatening & perhaps violent reprisals suffered by those intelligent, conscientious, & influential does of Globalization.

    Thanks again, Brother.

  523. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brendon O'Connell

    Re “drones in Parkland . . .”

    We haven’t heard much about the squeeky-clean ethnic Greek Orthdox Christian who killed 10 in Texas.

    Anyone else speculate he might have been mind comtrolled?

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    , @dcite
  524. @jacques sheete

    From perhaps the banks of the Mississippi, Jacques Sheete offered this John The Baptist style heads-up: “Wake up, America!”

    Hi Jacques,

    That’s precisely what our Zio rulers try to prohibit, awareness.

    I will now share something which surprised me earlier today, Armistice Day.

    I wrote a poem which many will denounce as esoteric, incomprehensible, and far out-of-the-realm of The Most Favored ZUS “identity poets.”

    For example, the poets chosen annually by the POT(Z)US to do readings at the black-site White House.

    Nonetheless, for quite some time, I became elated over what President Putin has done to support Assad’s sovereign Syria Cause, but at times, I am bewildered by Putin’s homage to P.M. Netanyahu’s Greater Israel goal.

    I believe the deceit factor has globally reached a “road less traveled” spiritual highway.

    Consequently, I wrote a poem which “time travels” and connects Gregory Rasputin’s (alleged) significant influence upon the last of the Romanov dynasty & the present Russian Orthodox & Zionist Jew-duo’s spiritual-political influence upon President Vladimir Putin.

    https://literaryyard.com/2018/05/28/poem-the-hours-at-saint-rasputin-syrian-orthodox-church/

    Humbly, Jacques, I am impressed by the poems posting by Literary Yard, an outstanding web site based in India. As we know, some “chatter” is available that shows Netanyahu’s attempt to gain insidious leverage in the Subcontinent.

    Thanks & Happy Armistice Day.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  525. L.K says:
    @Brendon O'Connell

    You are another disinfo agent.

  526. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Memorial Day, originally known as Decoration Day was first observed on May 30, 1868, to honor those fallen in the Civil War.

    Armistice Day, first observed on November 11, 1919, marks the end of WWI, formally the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918. It was renamed Veterans Day in 1954. In other countries, it is still known as Armistice Day.

  527. Writing about Brendon O’Connell, L.K. said to him: “You are another disinfo agent.”

    Hi L.K.,

    Having sheer respect for your knowledge, above, it is now apparent O’Connell’s comment here caught my interest & he fooled me.

    The old American proverb, “First time his fault, next time mine!”

    Can you elucidate, L.K.? Otherwise will do some looking into who & what he is.

    Thanks!

    • Replies: @Brendon O'Connell
  528. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “China has been given $7.2 trillion to play with by The City of London and Lord Jacob Rothschild.

    Hmm – I talked with Jacob the other day.