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I am reluctant to write about the “Israel problem” at the heart of U.S. foreign policy two weeks in a row but it seems that the story just will not go away as the usual suspects pile on the Barack Obama Administration over its alleged betrayal of America’s “best and greatest friend and ally in the whole world.”

Even as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his gaggle of war criminals continue to foam at the mouth over the United Nations vote it is, in truth, difficult to blame Israel for what is happening. The Israelis are acting on what they see as their self interest in dominating their neighbors militarily and having a free hand to deal with the Palestinians in any way they see fit. And as for their relationship with Washington, what could be better than getting billions of dollars every year, advanced weapons and unlimited political cover in exchange for absolutely nothing?

Surely even Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu knows that the settlements are illegal under international law and are an impediment to any peaceful resolution with the Palestinians, which is what Resolution 2334 says. It has been U.S. policy to oppose them since they first starting popping up like mushrooms, but Netanyahu has encouraging their expansion in full knowledge that he is creating facts on the ground that will be irreversible. He has also pledged to his voters that he will not permit the creation of a Palestinian state, so why should anyone be confused about his intentions?

Daniel Larison over at The American Conservative summed up the situation perfectly, observing that “Calling out Israel for its ongoing illegal behavior becomes unavoidable when there is no progress in resolving the conflict, and the current Israeli government has made it very clear that there won’t be any progress… Israel isn’t actually an ally, much less a ‘vital’ one, and it certainly isn’t ‘critical’ to our security. The U.S. isn’t obliged to cater to some of the worst policies of a client government that has increasingly become a liability. The real problem with the U.S. abstention on the resolution is that it came many years after it might have done some significant good, and it comes so late because Obama wasted his entire presidency trying to ‘reassure’ a government that undermined and opposed him time and again.”

So stop blaming Israel for acting selfishly, since that is the nature of the beast, as in the fable of the frog and the scorpion. More to the point, it is the American Quislings who should be the focus of any examination of what is taking place as they are deliberately misrepresenting nearly every aspect of the discussion and flat out lying about what might actually be at stake due to Washington’s being shackled to Netanyahu’s policies. I will leave it to the reader to decide why so many U.S. politicians and media talking heads have betrayed their own country’s interests in deference to the shabby arguments being put forward on behalf of an openly apartheid theocracy, but I might suggest that access to money and power have a lot to do with it as the Israel Lobby has both in spades.

The Quislings are making two basic arguments in their defense of surrendering national sovereignty to a troublesome little client state located half a world away. First, they are claiming that any acknowledgement that the Israelis have behaved badly is counterproductive because it will encourage intransigence on the part of the Arabs and thereby diminish prospects for a viable peace agreement, which has to be negotiated between the two parties. Second, the claim is being made that the abstention on the U.N. vote violates established U.S. policy on the nature of the conflict and, in so doing, damages both Israeli and American interests. Bloomberg’s editorial board has conjoined the two arguments, adroitly claiming in an over-the-top piece entitled “Obama’s Betrayal of Israel at the U.N. Must Not Stand” that the abstention “breaks with past U.S. policy, undermines a vital ally and sets back the cause of Middle East peace.”

Citing the damaged peace talks argument, which is what the Israeli government itself has been mostly promoting, Donald Trump denounced the U.N. resolution from a purely Israeli perspective, stating that “As the United States has long maintained, peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties, and not through the imposition of terms by the United Nations. This puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis.” He subsequently added “We cannot continue to let Israel be treated with such total disdain and disrespect,” a comment that just might be regarded as either tongue in cheek or ironic because that is precisely how Israel treats Washington. It is reported, however, that Trump does not do irony.

The pundits who most often scream the loudest in defense of Israel are often themselves Jewish, many having close ties to the Netanyahu government. They would undoubtedly argue that their ethno-religious propinquity to the problem they are discussing does not in any way influence their views, but that would be nonsense. One of those persistently shouting the loudest regarding the “peace” canard is the ubiquitous Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, who has never seen anything in Israel that he dislikes. He commented that Obama had stabbed Israel in the back and had made “peace much more difficult to achieve because the Palestinians will now say ‘we can get a state through the U.N.’”

Syndicated columnist and fellow Israeli zealot Charles Krauthammer added his two cents, noting that the resolution abstention had meant that Washington had “joined the jackals at the U.N.” Observing that the U.N. building occupies “good real estate in downtown New York City…Trump ought to find a way to put his name on it and turn it into condos.” Iran-Contra’s own Elliot Abrams, who opposes Jews marrying non-Jews, meanwhile repeats the Krauthammer “jackals” meme and also brays about the “abandonment of Israel at the United Nations.”

But the prize for pandering to Jewish power and money has to go to the eminent John Bolton, writing on December 26th about “Obama’s Parting Betrayal of Israel” in The Wall Street Journal (there is a subscription wall but if you go to Google and search you can get around it). Bolton, an ex-Ambassador to the U.N under the esteemed George W. Bush, is a funny looking guy who reportedly did not get a position with the Trump administration because of his Groucho Marx moustache. He currently pontificates from the neocon American Enterprise Institute (AEI) where he is something called a senior fellow. He has written a book “Surrender Is Not an Option: Defending America at the United Nations and Abroad,” which is available for 6 cents used on Amazon, plus shipping. There is another John Bolton who wrote “Marada the She-Wolf,” but they are apparently not related.

In his piece, Bolton hit on both the peace talks and the “I’m backing Israel arguments.” He uniquely starts out by claiming that Barack Obama “stabbed Israel in the front” by failing to stop Resolution 2334, which he then describes as “clearly intended to tip the peace process towards the Palestinians…abandon[ing] any pretense that the actual parties to the conflict must resolve their differences.” That’s the peace argument plus the negotiations fiction rolled together. He then goes on to argue that Obama has betrayed Israel by “essentially endors[ing] the Palestinian politico-legal narrative about territory formerly under League of Nations’ mandate.”

Bolton concedes that the damage has already been done by Obama’s complicity “in assaulting Israel” and the opening can be exploited by what he describes as the “anti-Israeli imagineers” at the United Nations. He calls on Donald Trump to work to “mitigate or reverse” such consequences and specifically “move to repeal the resolution, giving the 14 countries that supported it a chance to correct their error.” That they cheered loudly when the resolution passed apparently will have to also be somehow expunged, though Bolton does not mention that. Nations that refuse to go along with the repeal “would have their relations with Washington adjusted accordingly” while “the main perpetrators in particular should face more tangible consequences.”

Bolton is unhesitatingly placing Israeli priorities ahead of American interests by his willingness to punish actual U.S. allies like Britain, Germany and France, as well as major powers Russia and China, out of pique over their vote against the settlements. He also recommends withholding the U.S. contributions to the U.N., which amount to over 20% of the budget. Bolton then goes on to reject any Palestinian state of any kind, recommending instead that a rump version of territory where the bulk of the Palestinians will be allowed to live be transferred to Jordanian control.

As always, there is scant attention paid by any of the Israel boosters for actual American interests in continuing to perform proskynesis in front of Netanyahu and whatever reptile might succeed him. American values and needs are invisible, quite rightly, because they are of no interest to John Bolton and his fellow knee jerkers at AEI, the Hudson Institute, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), Brookings, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) and the rest of the alphabet soup that depends on the generosity of pro-Israel donors to keep the lights on.

Bolton provides precisely one short sentence relating to Washington’s stake in the game being played, noting that the U.N. abstention poses “major challenges for American interests.” He never says what those interests are because there are none, or at least none that matter, apart from godfathering a viable two state solution which Israel has basically made impossible. And that is only an interest because it would lessen much of the world’s disdain for U.S. hypocrisy while mitigating the radicalization of young Muslims turned terrorists who are in part enraged by the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians, blaming it correctly on American connivance. In reality having the U.S. finally vote on the side of sanity and fairness is really a good thing for Americans and hopefully will lead to severing a bizarre “special relationship” that supports a kleptocracy in Asia that has been nothing but trouble.

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  1. Randal says:

    The pundits who most often scream the loudest in defense of Israel are often themselves Jewish, many having close ties to the Netanyahu government. They would undoubtedly argue that their ethno-religious propinquity to the problem they are discussing does not in any way influence their views

    And their disingenuous declarations are now arguably backed by force of law in the UK, where referring to the potential for mixed loyalties on the part of jewish people in relation to the jewish nation falls within the “official definition of anti-Semitism” recently adopted as a result of despicable pandering by politicians at the very highest levels.

  2. Bolton is a Chenyesque wanker.

    Remaining expletives deleted.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @SPQR70AD
  3. n230099 says:

    “…and it comes so late because Obama wasted his entire presidency…”

    LOL!! And yet still a God to some. He was supposed to get the U.S. out of the region. Now the trail he and the war criminals Bush, Rumsfeld, Clinton, Kerry, Rice and Power leave is lined with more dead civilians than have died on either side in Palestine and Israel since 48. Israeli/Palestinian issues are not without some significance but pale in the scope of the war crimes of the U.S in the past 16 years. Millions dead and all we hear is ‘f’n Jews’….

    • Replies: @uslabor
    , @Mikhailovich
  4. Patriot says:


    You are a brave man. It is very dangerous to critize Israel or Jews. Please be safe.

    Thanks for having the courage to speak truth to power.

    • Replies: @Junior
  5. Hrw-500 says:

    That reminds me of a very politically incorrect cartoon made by a guy nicknamed A. Wyatt Mann.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Alden
  6. alexander says:

    What a superb article, Mr. Giraldi.

    I cannot imagine many Americans across our country who would not be popping champagne bottles if President Trump selected YOU to run our Central Intelligence Agency.

  7. iffen says:

    I am reluctant to write about the “Israel problem” at the heart of U.S. foreign policy two weeks in a row

    The gold standard for, ” You can’t make up this stuff.”

    • LOL: Clyde
    • Replies: @Art
  8. what could be better than getting billions of dollars every year, advanced weapons and unlimited political cover in exchange for absolutely nothing?

    Nothing? What do you call selling the US stuff that the Israelis stole the underlying technology from the US in the first place?

    Nothing? What do you call giving the US all that intelligence on the False Flag terrorist groups that Israel supports?

    Nothing? What do you call all that money the Israelis spend meddling in US elections?

    Nothing? What do you call being the root cause of US/Arab tensions?

    The US gets quite a bit from Israel, all of it bad.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  9. Breed highly intelligent gypsies… What do you have??

  10. Agent76 says:

    Dec 31, 2016 The US Continues With A Neocon Foreign Policy

    The foreign policy of the United States over the last 36 years has been a train wreck, and the same people responsible for bringing us unwinnable wars and constant conflict are trying to weasel their way back into power. So who are these people and what are they hoping to accomplish?

  11. schmenz says:

    According to this article the swine Bolton is going to have a place in the Trump administration:

    If that is true I will have to give up all hope. Al of it.

    • Replies: @eD
  12. macilrae says:

    I will leave it to the reader to decide why so many U.S. politicians and media talking heads have betrayed their own country’s interests in deference to the shabby arguments being put forward on behalf of an openly apartheid theocracy, but I might suggest that access to money and power have a lot to do with it as the Israel Lobby has both in spades.

    Doubtless, but shortcomings in their private lives are now readily discovered thanks to virtually unimpeded social media access by a veritable army of privileged zealots. I’ll bet that a file now exists on just about everybody in public life.

    John Bolton was the prime mover behind the retraction of the “Zionism is Racism” resolution of the UN General Assembly.

    As usual, a fine piece by Mr Giraldi.

  13. “The pundits who most often scream the loudest in defense of Israel are often themselves Jewish, many having close ties to the Netanyahu government. They would undoubtedly argue that their ethno-religious propinquity to the problem they are discussing does not in any way influence their views, but that would be nonsense.”

    The pundits and financial backers are largely Jewish. In short, America has a Jewish problem. And the “anti-zionists” are largely phonies who are just as ethnocentric and tied to Israel as their zionist brothers. Israel shouldn’t be much of a U.S. issue, and both zionists and anti-zionists involve the U.S. where it shouldn’t be involved, and always in favor of Israel.

    America needs to put a hard check on Jewish power, if not destroy it completely. The “canards” are real and accurate..

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @annamaria
  14. Great piece! I don’t think I’ve had to grab a dictionary twice in a short article since I gave up reading Buckley.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  15. We’re at an interesting point; who other than diaspora Jews and weirdo evangelical Christians can support Israel anymore? Most people under fifty either don’t believe Jewish propaganda about the holocaust or don’t care. Couple this with Israel’s apartheid treatment of Palestinians and there’s no moral reason to support Israel. Indeed, supporting Israel at this point is almost as poisonous as supporting North Korea or Saudi Arabia.

    Jewish money and influence will see that Israel continues to get a free pass at the highest levels of power for a while yet but for most people, Israel is an evil, aggressive theocracy that brings nothing but misery to its neighbours and unnecessary trouble to the rest of the world.

    • Replies: @Wally
  16. @Hrw-500

    re the first cartoon, “Join the US Army, Fight for Israel”

    This morning C Span Washington Journal interviewed new members of US Congress.

    Among them was Brian Mast, a Republican who defeated Patrick Murphy in Florida’s 18th district, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen’s former district.

    Mast was a bomb detonations expert in US military who lost both legs and an arm in Afghanistan. Mast said he’d never thought about running for congress until he wound up at Walter Reed hospital; he said he had thought he’d spend his career doing what he loved — “jumping out of airplanes and kicking in doors and roping out of helicopters.” He said it was “very difficult for him to lose that purpose” he’d had in life.
    In the process of “finding another battlefield to fight on,” many congressmen & staffers visited him.
    He eventually went to work for various US counterterrorism agencies in addition to
    “spending some time in the Israeli army . . . of which I’m very very proud. . . . I’m probably the only congressman who has been in the Israeli military . . .

    According to wikipedia, Mast attended Christian schools and identifies as a Christian; no denomination is mentioned.
    Whatever denomination it is, apparently their Jesus counsels:
    “Blessed are they who kick in doors, for they shall be called peacemakers;”
    “Seek and ye shall find, kick and the door shall open . . .”

    Mast said he applied his military, mission-oriented training to preparing himself to function in congress. He moved seamlessly from military to counterterrorism,

    With the Israeli military he worked in a role that Mast identified as SAREL (?),
    “which allows individuals from around the world to work with the Israeli military . . . a program they rely on quite heavily to accomplish a lot of what they need to go on with their military, as they don’t have nearly as large a military as the United States.”

    (The closest I could find to “SAREL” was an Israeli medical and pharmaceutical research, development and production corporation,
    Israel’s largest private supplier under one roof of goods and services to healthcare and medical institutions.

    I find it troublesome that the US military or associated agencies are so interwoven with Israeli state forces and institutions.

    In my assessment, such intense interrelationships violate George Washington’s counsels in his Farewell Address, just as surely as Mast’s attitudes invert the counsels of Christianity.

    The unity of Government, which constitutes you one people, is also now dear to you. It is justly so; for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquillity at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very Liberty, which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee, that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed, to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth; as this is the point in your political fortress against which the batteries of internal and external enemies will be most constantly and actively (though often covertly and insidiously) directed, it is of infinite moment, that you should properly estimate the immense value of your national Union to your collective and individual happiness; that you should cherish a cordial, habitual, and immovable attachment to it; accustoming yourselves to think and speak of it as of the Palladium of your political safety and prosperity; watching for its preservation with jealous anxiety; discountenancing whatever may suggest even a suspicion, that it can in any event be abandoned; and indignantly frowning upon the first dawning of every attempt to alienate any portion of our country from the rest, or to enfeeble the sacred ties which now link together the various parts.

    For this you have every inducement of sympathy and interest. Citizens, by birth or choice, of a common country, that country has a right to concentrate your affections. The name of american, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations.

  17. @SolontoCroesus

    Brian Mast will soon be on his way to Israel together with the rest of the freshman class to have an all expenses paid luxury 360 degree experience learning all about the terrible Ayrabs and Persians who continue to threaten America’s best friend and closest ally. I wonder what Mast thought he was accomplishing while kicking in doors in Afghanistan? Did he ever question why he was there? Now he is a congressman with nary a thought of anything contrary in his head. Kind of makes you sick.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Junior
  18. @Philip Giraldi

    “I wonder what Mast thought he was accomplishing while kicking in doors in Afghanistan? Did he ever question why he was there? Now he is a congressman with nary a thought of anything contrary in his head. Kind of makes you sick.”

    Nope. He lost two legs and an arm, and has apparently done no reflection at all. The combat vets that I have known aren’t fond of war, and question the government’s motives. Something is wrong with this man.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @SPQR70AD
  19. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The Zionist creed is greed. What’s ours is ours, and what’s yours is ours. Forget the myth of Biblical roots and a homeland for a people without land. After stealing Palestine, they see Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, and the immense natural resources available: oil, gas, water, and land, for the taking, but what to do with those unworthy locals. Not enough Zionists to subjugate tens of millions, so they need America to do the wars for them. That’s where the likes of John Bolton come into the picture. Corrupt and compromise enough of America’s elites, and the fate of ordinary Americans be damned. It’s the nature of the beast.

  20. john cronk says: • Website

    I hope that President Trump doesn’t allow himself to be unduly influenced by Israel and its supporters. Israel is a big problem, both for itself and the U.S., and religiously hyperbolic references to Jerusalem as its ‘eternal capital’ are worrisome.
    The best thing for people who identify as Jews is to emigrate and assimilate into western civilization, as the religious and political climate in the mideast will only bring continued danger and conflict for themselves and for the entire world.
    The U.S. does not need an ‘ally’ in the mideast which is dedicated to people of one religion and is thus a lightning rod for religious and ethnic hatred by the benighted cultures surrounding it. We need to stay out of the mideast – except for a robust diplomatic and intelligence network, in conjunction with a strong military here at home capable of protecting us from any aggression that may be directed toward our country.
    Israel has done a wonderful job solving the technical problems encountered in carving a country out of a desert, but the idea of a nation dedicated to a religion was flawed from the start. What they defend militarily, and would like the U.S. to as well, is doomed. Not only dangerous, wasteful and ultimately unwinnable in a practical sense, the fight to establish and preserve this kind of state is ethically indefensible.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  21. @OilcanFloyd

    Nope. He lost two legs and an arm…

    I don’t know of him, but it sounds like he lost a bit more than that.

    Could it be the spawn of something like Johnny McCain and Hillary?

    What kind of monsters would vote for something like that? And to reflect on the fact that plenty have voted for that and similar scum makes me more than a little sick.

    • Replies: @Alden
  22. eD says:

    Part of me hopes that these guys go through with this. Since just about every country on Earth voted for that resolution, including many long-standing (genuine) US allies, this could get the US out of the foreign aid racket, which has to be part of a reset of US foreign policy.

    On the wider point, during the campaign and afterwards, Trump was often very vocal in support of what I call red state identity politics, such as being hardline pro-Likud, global warming denailism, tax cuts for coproations, etc. I have two theories about this.

    One is that Trump really believes this stuff. He was a real estate developer with no government experience, who by his own admission gets most of his news from TV. He mainly lives in the neo-con/ Fox News bubble that exists in New York. If this is true, we can expect his administration to be a chaotic disaster, though he may get more of a clue and rein in the crazies later on, as GW Bush did (also Reagan, though pretty well informed when he took office, the Reagan administration did wind up reversing itself on a few of its earl positions).

    The second possibility is that Trump is in fact in a weak position, and is basically making a deal with the Red State portion of the establishment, he will let them get their pet projects through in return for being allowed to stay in office and get key planks in his platform, such as immigration and trade, through. This makes a good deal of sense, and during the campaign the GOP establishment had numerous opportunities to sabotage Trump, which they didn’t go through with after signalling they were considering. However, Trump’s negotiating position is weak enough that I don’t think he will be able to hold the GOP-e to their side of the deal in the end.

  23. POTUS Trump is on board with Israel’s National Origins Immigration Policy…JEWS ONLY!!

    I want an Alt Right National Origins Immigration Policy that excludes all nonwhite Legal Immigrants and Israelies….MAGA!!!

  24. Art says:

    The gold standard for, ” You can’t make up this stuff.”

    Little Jew – your otiose vain attempt at Jew victimhood is falling short. Your sarcastic whining is a little bit entertaining – but not intimidating enough for your bosses.

    Sorry – no bonus from Hasbara Central.

    Peace — Art

  25. Did he ever question why he was there?

    Doubtful in the extreme. Why would he question anything? He already knows it all and believes all the “hero” crap to boot. Fanaticism; this is what it looks like.

    Now he is a congressman with nary a thought of anything contrary in his head.

    The inevitable product of a sewer society and its perverted schooling, “religious” and media systems.

    It looks like we have our hands full…

  26. utu says:

    Trump got where he is now only because a substantial Jewish and Zionist forces were behind him. Actions of Obama and Kerry brought it to the open. Would they have done it if Hillary won? Anyway, “Israel First” will be safe under Trump.

  27. skrik says:

    Philip Giraldi “a viable peace agreement, which has to be negotiated between the two parties”

    Donald Trump “peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties”

    Philip Giraldi “having the U.S. finally vote on the side of sanity and fairness”

    Me: Sounds good, but there’s something missing; at least two:

    1. What exactly is to negotiate?

    2. What exactly is sanity and fairness?

    Lately, I’ve been ending with this, but new order:

    3. Where are the adults?

    In the 50-year ‘preparation’ time between 1897 and 1947, the immigrating alien Jews managed to ‘up’ their purchased = legally acquired ‘share’ of [pre-Herzl, or LN-Mandate] Palestine to about ~6%. In the same time, those same immigrating alien Jews managed to increase their ‘share’ of Palestinian population from ~3% to ~30%. After UNGA181 was passed [with arm-twisting = coercing delays], ‘partition’ was *rejected* for processing by the UNSC, so did not become law. Nevertheless, the 5th column ~30% attacked the natives latest with Plan Dalet, in an action correctly termed ethnic cleansing via genocidal methods, and the immigrated alien Jews [heirs and successors plus new arrivals] have continued aggressing against the natives for the last ~68 bloody years down into ‘the current moment,’ no end in sight.

    In the interim, the UN, useless that it is, recognised the mistake of UNGA181 and passed UNGA194 (refugee ‘right of return’ + compensation), my proposed version of which is RoR+R*3 = Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation. In addition, there’s UNSC242 (inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war + withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied).

    Also, there is UDHR [*inalienable* rights]:

    Article 3.
    • Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
    Article 17.
    • (1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
    • (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

    NB “inalienable” = unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor, which in turn means that the Ps can’t surrender, even if they were ‘fooled’ into attempting any silly such. Also consider about 90% of ‘modern’ Js descended *not* from some obscure Hebrew tribe, but from ‘self-converted Khazars’ aka European.

    Fazit: In plain text, all of Palestine outside of the ~6% *still* belongs to the natives [heirs and successors]; all other land that the putative Jewish state = illegitimate entity squats upon is improperly alienated = ‘illegally occupied’ aka stolen.

    IMHO, none of the above is in any way controversial, being facts readily available to all enquirers. I repeat my 3 Qs:

    1. What exactly is to negotiate?

    2. What exactly is sanity and fairness?

    3. Where are the adults? rgds

  28. @SolontoCroesus

    “… (Brian) Mast’s attitudes invert the counsels of Christianity.”

    “Blessed are those who kick in doors, for they shall be called peacemakers.”

    Thank you very much S2C for conveying such far seeing thought!

    Many rightly blame illiteracy for the Zionist takeover of the U.S. government. But as you well know, America gets the malignant John Bolton as a “statesman” because of the Zionist success at destroying the “counsels of Christianity.”

    I tend to reread Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago One, and today I will quote from the chapter called “The History of Our Sewage Disposal System.” In Spring of 1022, Solzhenitsyn observed how the GPU-NKVD decided to intervene in Russian Orthodox Church affairs. Goon squads were called on to execute a “church revolution” — designed to remove the existing leadership and replace it with one which would have only one ear turned to heaven and the other to the Lubyanka.”

    Remarkable how, & within the scope of only 1/2 century or so, the Zionist root destruction of Christianity succeeded minus a need for mass arrests of (orthodox) U.S. priests & pastors? Why today, just look at how Brian Mast flourishes with his one ear to (modified) sermons on the mount and the other to AIPAC speeches.

    To quote Tanya Khodkevich: “You can pray freely
    but just so Jesus alone can hear.”

  29. @SolontoCroesus

    George Washington and his fellow European settler-colonists did to the indigenous people of North America what Jewish European settler-colonists did to the indigenous people of the Levant. (To be fair, though, the Zionists, if only for lack of opportunity, did not capture, import, and permanently enslave millions of people from another land.)

    It’s noteworthy that both Zionists and Nazis invoked the “American” treatment of the indigenous population to justify their own crimes. As Israeli historian Benny Morris said back in 2004, “Even the great American democracy could not have been created without the annihilation of the Indians.”

    So invoking the settler-colonial nationalism of the slave owner and murdering land-stealer, George Washington, is something Zionists, not their opponents, can do honestly.

  30. If the Israeli political elite had been serious about a two-state solution, they could have implemented it decades ago. But they thought they could slowly absorb the West Bank. This one-state solution could only work if they gave the Palestinians full rights as citizens. But this would likely result in a non-Jewish state very quickly.
    The alternative is to forcibly expel Palestinians from the West Bank, but this would be politically and militarily disastrous for Israeli Jews.
    This is a trap that has been clear for Israeli Jews. The longer things are allowed to continue as they are, the less likely a two-state solution which could accommodate their requirements and the more likely a one-state solution which would be unpalatable to most. Who said Jews are smart people ?
    Prediction. Within twenty years, most Israeli Jews with dual passports will have left Israel, permanently.

  31. Svigor says:

    The current Zionist argument is that Hussein set back the peace process with the UN abstention. The problem with this is that Israel does nothing to advance the peace process, so nobody who isn’t in their pocket, or afraid of those who are, has any reason to do anything but scorn the argument. The Israelis show no evidence of wanting to reach an agreement with the Palestinians, or to afford them the kind of justice Jews are always carrying on about being denied themselves. On the contrary, they give every indication that negotiating with the Palestinians is the last thing they want.

    LOL!! And yet still a God to some. He was supposed to get the U.S. out of the region. Now the trail he and the war criminals Bush, Rumsfeld, Clinton, Kerry, Rice and Power leave is lined with more dead civilians than have died on either side in Palestine and Israel since 48. Israeli/Palestinian issues are not without some significance but pale in the scope of the war crimes of the U.S in the past 16 years. Millions dead and all we hear is ‘f’n Jews’….

    Perhaps because most of US adventurism can plausibly be laid at the feet of an unholy alliance between Zionists and the military-industrial complex?

    “I am reluctant to write about the “Israel problem” at the heart of U.S. foreign policy two weeks in a row”

    The gold standard for, ” You can’t make up this stuff.”

    A bit rich, yes, but it was hardly necessary; the Zionists have been crowing about this loudly from their perches in Big Media. It is hardly the Giraldis of the world who call the tune. If Big Media and the American political establishment think it’s important, who are we to disagree?

    Breed highly intelligent gypsies… What do you have??

    There’s a lot of truth to this…

    ED, I’m not sure I’d buy into either of those positions. Trump’s position is hardly weak. He can veto every bill out of Congress for four years. He will be commander-in-chief of the US military, and head of the executive branch. He will be instrumental in several upcoming supreme court picks.

    Utu, wake up, Trump got to the White House in spite of Jewish political money. Sheldon Adelson was the only exception, and he hardly owes Adelson 4 years of American foreign policy for 50m in donations, or whatever it was. If anything, he owes Jews and Zionists an ass-kicking for how they treated him during the campaign, and I doubt he’ll forget this. If he cleaves to Israel, it will be for his own reasons.

  32. Realist says:
    @jacques sheete


    Bolton’s image reminds me of an evil Captain Kangaroo.

    • Replies: @uslabor
    , @Chuck Orloski
  33. Realist says:

    It seems Mast is a very, very slow learner.

  34. Alden says:

    What’s the official song of the Israeli army?

    Onward Christian Soldiers

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  35. Mark Green says: • Website

    We are in a crisis. And Trump–like the Hope and Change president who preceded him–is not going to alleviate, or even address, this conundrum. Why? Officially, it doesn’t even exist.

    Mainstream opinion requires the denial of Jewish power. It’s taboo.

    This unacknowledged mandate is why there is good reason to believe that ‘America First’ will be remembered primarily as a slogan; since to solve a problem, one must be free to talk about it. Openly.

    As for Trump’s alleged ‘America First’ movement, well, one cannot serve two masters. Therefore, when push comes to shove, America’s core political interests will have to wait. Supreme power enjoys supreme privilege. Trump understands this. After all, he’s just an elected official.

    Incredibly, American civilization has been captured in a quiet, slow-motion, multi-faceted and near-bloodless coup. Few realize that it’s even occurred. Its key operatives dominate our legislatures, our courts, our media, and our schools. We live in an All-Zion-All-the-Time universe. Hitler, Holocaust, Racism, Nativism, Terrorism and Bigotry are just some of the loaded pillars that elevate this cult and keep the counter-revolution nascent, if not still-born.

    America’s dominant media deserves special credit for the efficacy of this extraordinary deception.

    Not only are media-numbed Americans subjected to a Zio-friendly propaganda storm 24/7, but dissident analysts like Giraldi will be forever marginalized for the sin of daring to tamper with the kosher narrative. Of course, censorship of this kind is entirely acceptable in PC America. After all, they’re Nazis! ‘Stop the hate!’

    End of story. End of conversation.

    The Children of Zion not only manage the megaphone but the taboos as well. This is privilege. This is power.

    Yes, Zionist hegemony in American life requires massive amounts of money. But finance is just one element in this complex and well-coordinated scheme. Those who shape our understanding of the past can steer our future. And this is where America’s big, historical lessons come into play; chief among them: ‘anti-Semitism’. Is it the West’s last unpardonable sin?

    Stop the hate!

    Who cares that 220,000,000 million people died in state-initiated wars in the 20th century? That’s a mere footnote now.

    Not all human tragedies are created equal.

    Thus the recent passage of the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act (along with similar, pending, Jewish-scripted legislation in Europe) gives nourishment to the Zionist-friendly war against Free Speech and independent political thought that is storming forward with little opposition.

    “Never forget!”

    An undeclared war is underway. Slowly, the noose is tightening. You are the enemy.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    , @SPQR70AD
  36. Junior says:

    Amen to that! Courage indeed!

    Even when an assault is caught on camera like what occured to Alison Weir at the National Press Club, of all places, there are no consequences for attacks on those that have the courage to criticize Israel.

    I filed a pollice report and then waited and waited. Finally, the detective in charge of determining whether or not to prosecute Murray decided not to do so. The detective’s name is in another notebook somewhere. As I recall, it was Rosenbaum or something similar.

    • Replies: @uslabor
  37. Love all you Joo-obsessors coming out of the woodwork.

    I’m neither Disaspora-Jewish nor Evangelical Christian, and I’m behind Israel 100 percent. The problem in the Holy Land is this: two objects occupying–or claiming to occupy–the same space. That’s impossible, so you have to pick one. I pick Israel. Israel is the West–and it’s the way the West ought to be but isn’t, at least so far in Europe: a bulwark against Islam, which is the real menace to Western civilization, not some crazy haredim in yarmulkes living out in the middle of nowhere. Israel stands up to Islam. We don’t. At least till now (Trump). I don’t care if everything you say about the Jews, the Jewish lobby, or whatever, is true. I stand for Israel, because I don’t stand for the Dar al-Islam. Have any of you ever been to Israel? I have. Where would you rather live: Israel (a beautiful and prosperous country) or an Islamic hellhole (pick any Muslim country–hey, pick Turkey! See you at the next Istanbul nightclub!)?

    The settlements are Israel’s way of saying: We won. It’s what the victors in wars do. Want to have no settlements in your country? Try actually winning one of the three stupid wars plus God knows how many intifadas you’ve started with the aim of driving the Israelis to the sea. “International law”? You actually believe the U.N. ought to be running the world? What are you–a bunch of lefties?

    How sorry do I feel for the poor, poor Palestinians? Hey–not sorry at all! They’ve spent, what, six decades sitting on their behinds and whining when not 1) lobbing rockets at Israelis; 2) bombing school buses and restaurants; and 3) dancing in the streets over stuff like 9/11. Plus making life miserable for the few Christians left in the Holy Land. That alone puts me on the side of the Israelis.

    Yeah, yeah, most American Jews are irritating liberals, and I wish they’d cut it out. Especially the victimology stuff with the country clubs, since they’re America’s most successful ethnic group. And I don’t buy neocon foreign policy, since there’s no reason for Americans to be fighting wars and dying in them in the Mideast, period. Israel does an excellent job of furthering its own interests, such as staying in existence, and Bibi strikes me as an excellent behind-the-scenes power player–you know he’s got lines into both Syria and Russia.

    If Israel gets attacked, I’m all for aiding Israel, but that hasn’t happened yet, and probably won’t–unless the Muslims would like to see even more settlements.

    And finally, I can’t stand John Bolton’s mustache. Neither can Trump, I’m told. Meanwhile, yay for Trump! When I think “quisling,” I think Obama, not Trump–sorry.

  38. Druid says:

    Very true! Many will pay lip service but truly just support the Ziofascism under the shallow surface.

  39. In a way, it’s a feather in the UR’s cap that the online hasbarats have discovered this place. To see what I mean, check out the ‘discussion’ at Linh Dinh’s article yesterday and today. They’ll be here soon, I’m sure.

    Meanwhile, it’s gratifying to read the words of patriots, both in this article and in the early comments (I’m up to 38). Even though Congress and the MSM remain on the other side.

    I agree that John Bolton is a litmus test. Any administration including him is perforce opposed to the best interests of the USA.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  40. Druid says:
    @Aaron Aarons

    Sorry, but the Jews, not Zionism because it didn’t exist, were in the slave trade up to their tonsils!

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Aaron Aarons
  41. HBM says:

    The hyperbolic howling about “betrayal” is deep theater.

    The Left-wing Jews who have Obama and Kerry’s ears, unwilling to give up the useful pretense of Jewish moral superiority– unlike the Right-wing ones who are willing to openly commit an ethnic cleansing– have intuited that Trump’s strategy to separate the United States once and for all from Israel will be to allow Israel to do what it wants in the West Bank. Trump’s plan is to trade Palestinians for American sovereignty.

    This UN move was meant to stymie Trump in this maneuver.

    Just listen to Kerry. He understands that if Israelis do not run an ethnic cleansing they will succumb to demographic realities; Kerry is fully in favor of a pure, Jewish ethnostate. So two states would allow the Jews to have their cake and eat it, too. They would get the sort of home that they will deny us yet still retain the purported moral authority to dictate that the West embrace a suicidal multiculturalism.

    Trump’s plan is to give the Israeli Right a carte blanche and then leverage that behavior against the Jewish forces that would howl loudest about Trump’s plans to remove Muslims from the West.

    Bonus fun fact: Did you know that John Bolton has that moustache to keep Bibi’s nuts warm?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  42. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Jeff Albertson

    Buckley was a coward and a traitor to the conservative cause. He used big words to mask his hypocrisy and inadequacy.

    • Replies: @Alden
  43. TTaylor says:

    Israel is the model country for how white people should behave if they want to be great again. White people got to the top by behaving like Israel is behaving at the present.

    Go Israel, I support Israel.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  44. @Charlotte Allen

    The settlements are Israel’s way of saying: We won. It’s what the victors in wars do.

    Yer doing plenty of whining and ranting, Is that what victors do or are you a loser?

    How sorry do I feel for the poor, poor Palestinians? Hey–not sorry at all! They’ve spent, what, six decades sitting on their behinds and whining …

    And how many decades have you spent sitting on your behind, absorbing propaganda and whining?

    When, inevitably, your law of the jungle Utopia turns on you and yours, your ranting will still sound like so much monkey chatter, only louder. FYI, people with ideas such as you’ve expressed are modern examples of Cleopatra’s apes. Enjoy the performance while you can.

    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
  45. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The Palestinians will now think “we can get a state through the UN”.

    Just like how the Jews did.

  46. Realist says:

    “I will leave it to the reader to decide why so many U.S. politicians and media talking heads have betrayed their own country’s interests in deference to the shabby arguments being put forward on behalf of an openly apartheid theocracy, but I might suggest that access to money and power have a lot to do with it as the Israel Lobby has both in spades.”

    It certainly is not principle, those listed have none. But it is money.

    “Iran-Contra’s own Elliot Abrams, who opposes Jews marrying non-Jews,…”

    Abrams is correct to try to preserve his race. If only whites would do the same.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  47. uslabor says:

    US General Wesley Clark said in 2002 he was given a memo “that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” Every one of those countries a potential enemy of Israel.

    I think, in addition to the obvious oil resources, the US attacked those countries for the benefit of Israel.

    It ain’t so much, as you say “f’n Jews”. For me it is F*cking Zionist Israelis and their Neoconservative enablers in Washington.

  48. uslabor says:

    Remember Rachel Corrie. Run over by a brave Israeli Caterpillar driver.

    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
    , @Clyde
  49. @Kyle McKenna

    In his case we may need to change it from a litmus test to this.:

    A fecal occult blood test (FOBT) which is a lab test used to check stool samples for hidden (occult) blood.

  50. @Mark Green


    Understandably, and regarding the magic chain mentioned in your comment # 37, I suppose you either had no time or forgot to address how “the bloodless coup” operatives managed to sublimate U.S. Christian beliefs in favor of Israeli interests.

    On You Tube screen (below) you can watch V.P. Mike Pence take to the Christian -Zionist megaphone and make even Father Coughlin cry “uncle” from the grave.

    Also, among America’s most popular televangelists during the past decade is Pastor John Hagee. In Hagee’s book “In Defense of Israel” a believer will learn that not all messiahs are created equal. (I’d provide a You Tube video of Hagee, but since 2016 was the Catholic Year of Mercy, I will save you from such audio-visual pain, and refrain)

    Thank you for all the wise insights.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  51. @HBM

    Bonus fun fact: Did you know that John Bolton has that moustache to keep Bibi’s nuts warm?

    Oh, so that’s where they’ve been hiding ’em!

  52. @Charlotte Allen

    I rest my case.

    It sounds like you need a rest; you had a case? Of what? Hope yer better soon.

    (It may help to unplug the boob tube. Legal Disclaimer: That is not to be construed as medical advice.)

  53. schmenz says:
    @Charlotte Allen


    You haven’t presented a case that you can rest. When you do so I will read it carefully. But it must be thoughtful and free of hyperbole. And it must be factual. That means learning both sides the story and coming to your own conclusions.

  54. KenH says:

    Bolton looks like a mustachioed bartender or shopkeeper from Tombstone, Arizona circa 1875. As a gentile, he as much a militant Zionist as the rogues gallery of Zionist Jews like Kristol, Krauthammer and the rest of the usual suspects.

    Israel is a millstone around America’s neck. And most white Americans have become so Judaized and propagandized into believing that Israel is a lonely outpost of European civilization amidst a sea of hostile wogs that I doubt we’ll ever have a sane, truly America first (Israel last), foreign policy. But I hope I’m wrong.

    The former, white ruled S. Africa fits that description, but we threw them under the bus since only Jews have a right to survive and practice apartheid.

  55. @Realist

    “Bolton’s image reminds me of an evil Captain Kangaroo.”

    So funny and true, Realist! Thank you.

    When you can, look at You Tube video (below) and see Father Coughlin take a whip to the Fed money changers, year 1933?

    Odd, but when one views the priest on You Tube, Coughlin’s average-size nose seems to cast a shadow which appears similar to Herr Hitler’s little mustache.

  56. @Charlotte Allen

    I’m neither Disaspora-Jewish nor Evangelical Christian…

    That’s good. I hope yer not blonde cuz here’s some info you may want to consider.

    Nixon papers suggest Israel stole nuclear material from US in 1965, and more…

    “The Israeli press is picking up Grant Smith’s revelation from FBI documents that Benjamin Netanyahu was part of an Israeli smuggling ring that spirited nuclear triggers out of the U.S. in the 80s and 90s.”

    Two minute article that offers a glimpse of the US mobsters who supported the criminal state of Israel. The Aspen Institute vid is worth viewing too.

  57. @uslabor

    Rachel Corrie is a sad example of why parents shouldn’t let their attractive but idiotic daughters do college “internships” in war zones.

  58. utu says:

    “Sorry, but the Jews, not Zionism because it didn’t exist, were in the slave trade up to their tonsils!”

    Correct! Christianity put the stop to slave trading in Europe about 1000 years ago. The slave traders were mostly Jews. Major slave trading markets were in Rome and Prague for central Europe. St. Adalbert fought against the slave traders in Prague and then in Poland. He was martyred in Prussia:

    7) He has a vision of Christ telling him to save Christians from slavery by the Jewish traders[17]
    8) He pleads with the Duke of Bohemia for the release of Christians slaves by their Jewish masters

    Adopting Christianity in Eastern Europe offered protection form Jewish slave traders by Holy Roman Empire.

  59. Wally says: • Website
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Indeed, the ‘holocau$t’ fiction is falling apart faster than a cheap suit.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
    The tide is turning.

    Must reads:
    Holocaust Handbooks & Documentaries

    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    The ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

  60. utu says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    As a person who is neither Jewish nor Evangelical Christian you are pretty well versed in all Zionist talking points. Congratulations! You passed exam for hasbara apprenticeship.

  61. Wally says: • Website
    @Charlotte Allen

    Blame the victim, that’s the hasbarist way.

    Israeli immigration laws specify Jews Only, while hate mongering Zionists demand mass immigration into the US & Europe.

    Israel is a weight around our necks

    Imagine US immigration laws for ‘Christians Only’.

    “Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security”
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    The Zionist attempt to control language.
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY
    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses
    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

    Not to mention that every US taxpayers “loan” that ‘Israel’ receives has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously “forgives” all these huge debts. As if it wasn’t assumed at the beginning.

    Let’s not mention the vast sums they receive from ‘Homeland Security to do much of the spying.

    “Jame Bamford of Wired subsequently reported that the NSA had hired secretive contractors with extensive ties to Israeli intelligence to establish 10 to 20 wiretapping rooms at key telecommunication points throughout the country.”
    Read more:
    “Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA”
    Read more:
    “IDF Unit 8200 Cyberwar Veterans Developed NSA Snooping Technology”
    Read more:

  62. paratrop says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Our youth are often sacrificed to foreign wars fought for immoral causes – witness Vietnam and Iraq. I am sure that Rachel Corrie’s parents will continue to grieve all their lives for their beautiful daughter but at least they have the comfort and pride that she died for a truly moral reason and has become a worldwide beacon of the cause. Vale Rachel.

    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
  63. Clyde says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Good post. I pretty much agree. Israel shows the way on fences and border control. We should do the same. The Izzies know how to build hi-tech fences with sensors and video feeds at reasonable cost. Trump should hire some of their experts to consult on border walls and fences.
    BTW Saudi Arabia is copying Israel by building a border fence to keep out ISIS. Man the fence properly with well trained military forces and it will work.
    Saudi builds northern border fence against infiltrators Sep 06, 2014 · Saudi Arabia has inaugurated a multilayered fence … Saudi builds northern border fence against … Israel for continuing to build …

  64. Clyde says:

    Rachel Corrie your St Pancake. wtf was she doing there? A real cuckoo. Travel 10 thousand miles from hippie land in our Pacific Northwest to Israel, to make hippie protests.

  65. Art says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Israel is the West–and it’s the way the West ought to be but isn’t, at least so far in Europe: a bulwark against Islam

    Really – what Western nation today has a million and have people in a open air prison?

    What Western nations has apartheid walls hemming in indigenes peoples?

    What Western nation has 10,000 citizens in preventive detention?

    What Western nation has brought a 9/11 to our shores?

    What Western nation controls our congress, president, media, education, and soon to be courts.

    What Western nation allows only one religion?

    The people of Israel do vote – but they vote for non-Western actions – last time they voted for NO peace – no solution that gives freedom to the Palestinians.

    The Jews claim that they are Western – but Israel exhibits no Western ideals.

    Peace — Art

  66. Art says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Rachel Corrie is a sad example of why parents shouldn’t let their attractive but idiotic daughters do college “internships” in war zones.

    Only a Jew would say that!

    It is written — Rachel will be vindicated!

  67. @john cronk

    Only a small part of that nation is dedicated to a religion, the real power rests with those who seek global domination. Religion is just a cloak worn to conceal a sword or just like using a burka to conceal a bomb. Power and control is their true religion.

    The parasite is using America as a host and will seek to destroy it should it ever threaten the parasite itself, or should I say when it does threaten it as it surely must.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  68. @Clyde

    Rachel Corrie your St Pancake. wtf was she doing there? A real cuckoo. Travel 10 thousand miles from hippie land in our Pacific Northwest to Israel, to make hippie protests.

    Do we have yet another rabid anti-Semite here? I believe Ms Corrie was Jewish.

    Check this out:

    Now we learn that Jews are giving money, through a Jewish organization, to help fund an educational initiative to honor the “great humanitarian activist” Rachel Corrie.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  69. @Clyde

    Rachel Corrie your St Pancake. wtf was she doing there? A real cuckoo. Travel 10 thousand miles from hippie land in our Pacific Northwest to Israel, to make hippie protests.

    Maybe Charlotte can answer this for you.

    The crew of the USS Liberty. What were they doing on a military vessel thousands of miles from the US when their accident occurred?

    Were they cuckoos, dodos or gulls?

  70. @Charlotte Allen

    “No man ( or woman) is more enslaved than he (or she) who falsely believes himself (or herself) to be free.


    I actually feel sorry for you, though only to the same degree that you have compassion for others, so not very much at all.

  71. @Realist

    It can’t just be money, lots of people have money and many work hard to get it without becoming traitors to their nation. I suggest that a full and open investigation of Pizzagate would reveal that many are blackmailed into betraying their own people. This is just too important to overlook.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @skrik
  72. Lot says:

    I am reluctant to write about the “Israel problem”

    No you’re not.

    Israel/Jew bashing is what UR is all about!

    • Replies: @iffen
  73. @Charlotte Allen

    Charlotte Allen is a sad example of why parents should attempt to inculcate their cold-hearted daughters with some moral guidance.

  74. RobinG says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Embrace the Pain!!

    Whatever you think of Max (btw, his acknowledgement that the Syrian White Helmets are not impartial humanists is a good step) this short video from 2007 is priceless. Laugh, cry, grimace, but stick around for the final ecstatic dance. [And yes, Sam, I did protest a CUFI conference with a sign saying YOUR SUPPORT FOR JOHN HAGEE IS YOUR TICKET STRAIGHT TO HELL.]

    Rapture Ready: The Christians United for Israel Tour

  75. Clyde says:
    @jacques sheete

    Do we have yet another rabid anti-Semite here? I believe Ms Corrie was Jewish.

    What is this Sheete? Hasbara Central? She was not Jewish. She was not even a potato latke….she was your patron Saint Pancake.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @utu
  76. Lot says:

    as the usual suspects pile on the Barack Obama Administration over its alleged betrayal of America’s “best and greatest friend and ally in the whole world.”

    “Usual suspects” = Vast majority of American voters.

    Once again the tiresome fringely Israel bashers have lost an election.

    View post on

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 28 Dec 2016

    We cannot continue to let Israel be treated with such total disdain and disrespect. They used to have a great friend in the U.S., but not anymore. The beginning of the end was the horrible Iran deal, and now this (U.N.)! Stay strong Israel, January 20th is fast approaching!

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 22 Dec 2016

    The resolution being considered at the United Nations Security Council regarding Israel should be vetoed

  77. @Charlotte Allen

    you called it “holy land” 😛 that tells me more than enough.

    • Replies: @Alden
  78. @paratrop

    Oh yeah, she died for being an idiot who thought it was kind of like the Sixties: stuffing daisies into gun muzzles. Her parents should have had the sense to tell her that war is serious business.

  79. @Alden

    Hahahahahahahahaha! @Alden. I’d substitute “American” for “Christian”, tho’–I don’t think they care as long as it’s not THEM being the “soldiers.”

  80. @Clyde

    She was not Jewish.

    I have Jewish friends who claim she was. Who knows? No one really can define what a Jew is anyway.

    Some claim to be Jews yet are not, others are not but people think they are. Some are at one minute at another time not.

    Anyway, I’m quite certain that a lot of Jews do admire her for her courage and sense of justice, while the fake ones mostly sneer at her.

    I bet yer jealous cuz you couldn’t ever muster the moral strength to do something like what she did.

  81. Once again the tiresome fringely Israel bashers have lost an election.

    And they’d have won with the Charnel House Madam in charge?

    Too funny.

  82. utu says:

    You know, Clyde, you are real POS.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  83. @Aaron Aarons

    This is a ridiculous, and all too common argument from Jews – the land of the U.S. was stolen from the natives so Americans can’t say anything about Israel stealing Palestine from Palestinians.

    First of all, the native people of North America were literally living in the stone age when Whites showed up and their lives have been made immeasurably better thanks to the inventions and largesse of the White man. In contrast, Palestinians have done nothing but suffer under Israeli rule.

    Second, native North Americans are subsidized to the point of billions of dollars every year and receive every possible benefit from the government (and taxpaying Whites). Free health care, education and every form of affirmative action that’s ever been dreamt up are all theirs for the taking. Tell us friend, does the Jewish state extend this to Palestinians as it does to Jews?

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Aaron Aarons
  84. Clyde says:

    You should talk…… Your comments here are awful….. pancake! OK you make some good comments.

  85. nsa says:

    In the JUSA, there is only upside for a politician sucking up to the jooies….campaign donations, free trips, speaking engagements, great press from the KM (kosher media), lots of face time on Talmudvision, etc. Any pol antagonizing the jooies is demonized, targeted, and soon out of a job. Pols are just like the girls downtown……you give them enough money and they do whatever you want.

  86. Junior says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Love all you Joo-obsessors coming out of the woodwork.

    Well, well, well. It seems that someone has decided to throw stones from their Mooslim-obsessed glass house. Better be careful that none of those stones that you’re throwing land anywhere near any Israeli Tanks or they might mistake you for a Palestinian child and kill you.

    The problem in the Holy Land is this: two objects occupying–or claiming to occupy–the same space. That’s impossible, so you have to pick one. I pick Israel.

    The problem in America is this: Not only our corrupted-by-the-Lobby politicians, but also our dual-citizenship Sayanim politicians that put the interests of Israel over the interests of America. Two interests occupying- or claiming to occupy- the same space. That’s impossible, so you have to pick one. I pick America.

    “While Washington claims it has a “good neighbor” policy with Mexico, the U.S. does not permit Mexicans to hold dual nationality. The US makes them become either U.S. or Mexican — you can’t be both. But the U.S., in its special relationship with Israel, has become very sympathetic to allowing Israeli-Americans to retain two nationalities and allowing U.S. citizens not only to hold public office in Israel, but to hold US government positions as well! No other country holds this special exception to our laws of citizenship….I don’t know about you, but dual citizenship is fine with me for an ordinary citizen. But if you hold an official position that demands that you put American interests above all else — if you should look transparent and fair to the rest of the world regarding your formation of Middle East foreign policies, then this is a dangerous trend. Even if there were no pro-Israeli agenda, the fact that decision makers have a bias or an allegiance to one of the parties involved in the current conflict should have raised red flags long before now.”

    Israel is the West–and it’s the way the West ought to be but isn’t

    We, here in America, are a SECULAR nation that separates Church from State. Israel is NOT the West. I think you meant to say that Israel is the SOUTH… as in apartheid South Africa.

    Israel stands up to Islam.

    You are absolutely correct. Israel stands up to Islam… if by “stands up” you mean, giving treatment and air-cover to ISIS fighters that are trying to form an Islamic caliphate, then spot on yet again.

    I don’t care if everything you say about the Jews, the Jewish lobby, or whatever, is true.

    And therein lies your problem.

    Have any of you ever been to Israel? I have.

    Thanks for asking but I tend not to enjoy visiting open-air-prison-running-apartheid states that engage in the wholesale slaughter of innocents. But since you love it so much, Charlotte, I’m sure that many of us here would be more than willing to start a fund to help you purchase a one-way ticket back.

    Anyone interested in donating to the fund please send your donation to GetThisIsraeliFirsterTheHellOutOfMyCountry at 🙂

    Where would you rather live: Israel (a beautiful and prosperous country) or an Islamic hellhole

    So I guess “prosperous” Israel won’t be needing that 10.4 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY in “aid” that we’ve been sending them then? Great news! Maybe now we can use that money to turn America back into a beautiful and prosperous country instead.

    I wonder how your beauty pagaent would go if the “Islamic hellhole” got the 10.4 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY dropped on their heads instead of the bombs our treasonous Israeli-Firster politicians have been dropping on their heads to create said “hellholes” for the benefit of Israel.

    The settlements are Israel’s way of saying: We won. It’s what the victors in wars do. Want to have no settlements in your country? Try actually winning

    The settlements are Israel’s way of saying: We’re thieving war criminals.

    Charlotte: “The camps were Hitler’s way of saying: We won. It’s what the victors in wars do. Want to have no camps in your country? Try actually winning.”

    Junior to Charlotte: “This post is Junior’s way of saying: You’re an idiot.”

  87. Svigor says:

    Israel is the model country for how white people should behave if they want to be great again.

    And diaspora Jewry are the people Whites will have to steamroll to get there.

    Sort of like how the Nazis didn’t care much for Slavs, or the French…

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @OilcanFloyd
  88. Realist says:

    “It can’t just be money, lots of people have money and many work hard to get it without becoming traitors to their nation.”

    That is just the point. Being a corrupt traitorous bastard is easy and the money is great. I am not saying that people with money are traitorous. I am say that some people who want easy money are traitorous.

  89. Realist says:

    “And diaspora Jewry are the people Whites will have to steamroll to get there.”

    Not necessarily, whites can just not let the Jews control them. Whites need to stand together and not let bullshit direct them.

  90. Alden says:

    I believe it was more a matter of money with Buckley.

  91. Alden says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Excellent observation. Charlotte’s use of the word Holy Land reveals exactly what she is, a holy roller Old Testament obsessed pro Israeli fundamentalist Christian.

    She says she’s been to Israel. I bet it was one of those 5 day tours arranged by the Israeli propaganda ministry thru her fundamentalist church where they wallowed in all those phony tourist attractions like Abraham’s tomb and King Herod’s retaining wall which the Jews claim is part of the Temple destroyed by the Romans. It’s not part of the Temple. It’s just a retaining wall built to strengthen the plateau on which the civic center was built.

    I know some Israelis who live in America and Jews who spent a year or more in Israel. They all tell me that Israel is very middle eastern and more like any of its Muslim Arab neighbors than Europe or America.

  92. paratrop says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Hmmm! Keep it up – I think everyone here is seeing you for what you are. Yes war is serious business and she was willing to die for a good cause. Her name will live for generations to come. Unfortunately many Palestinian martyrs to Zionism will remain unnamed.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
  93. I would really like to see some serious analysis of the US establishment support for Zionism. But this piece is not it. The establishment, I believe, has no ethnic loyalties; it’s only loyal to itself. And the idea that the usual suspects, the Dershowitzs, the Krauthammers, the AIPAKs, the ADLs are responsible for it, that doesn’t sound convincing to me at all.

    The Teamsters used to be a powerful organization once too, and yet Hoffa was jailed and then disappeared.

    In the 1980s, the jihadists (in Afghanistan) were “the moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers” who could do no wrong, and yet they had no ethnic lobby to influence the US media, or money to bribe the US Congress. Then they became ‘evildoers, hating us for our freedom’. But today, in an Orwellian twist, they (in Aleppo) are beautiful Saints who can do no wrong again.

    All this makes me thing that the Dershowitzs and Krauthammers are just foam on the surface. There have to be real, totally non-sentimental, non-ethnic, power-and-money interests makings Zionism useful for the US elite…

  94. Alden says:

    This just in. The Republicans in congress have decided to withhold state department funds so as to force the state department to finally move our embassy to Jerusalem which will set off an international s**tstorm and make every Muslim in the world hate us more than they do now.

    The state department, not the secretary and short term political appointees, but the civil service professionals is the only government department that is anti Israel.
    Actually as anti Israel as is possible. It’s the professional civil service diplomats that have managed to delay the move since 1994.

    Here is the story of one Greek Orthodox Palestinian family and what happened to them when the Russian Jewish communists took over Palestine in 1948.

    The family were comfortable upper middle class. The father had a good management job for the city of Jerusalem. Both mother and father owned some rental property and small farms that brought in rental income. The family lived in a 10 room house that had been in the father’s family for centuries. The baptism, marriage and funeral records of the family went back to the 1400s in Greek Orthodox churches.

    There were 8 children, mostly boys.

    When the Zionists were planting bombs after WW2 one of the boys was killed when a bomb went off on a busy corner during rush hour.

    As soon as Palestine became Israel, the father was fired from his city job and was denied a pension even though he had worked there from the early 1920s.

    A year later Armed Israeli soldiers invaded the house and gave the family one hour to get out. The youngest boy was only 4. He deeply resented having to leave his rocking horse, actually a rocking tiger behind.
    Being Greek Orthodox the family was able to find shelter in a monastery’s pilgrim hostel. Imagine what that was like, 7 kids, the youngest 4, going from a 10 room house to a couple rooms in a hostel.

    The Greek Orthodox Church resettled the family in Pasadena Ca. The mother and older children got jobs, the younger ones went to school.
    The youngest boy went to Pasadena community college for a year. There he encountered Jewish teachers who claimed the Palestinians fled voluntarily and because of that the Jews were entitled to their homes, farms and businesses.

    In the spring of 1967 the Presidential primaries were held. One candidate , Robert Kennedy was televised making a rousing speech promising that if he were elected he would give to Israel all the support it needed.

    So the youngest son of that Greek Orthodox Palestinian family shot and killed Robert Kennedy because of his support for Israel. The young man’s name is Sirhan Sirhan.

    That’s just one family.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @Paul C.
  95. @Charlotte Allen

    Her parents should have had the sense to tell her that war is serious business.

    It is serious business, and it’s also an abomination, which is why we shouldn’t allow morons to get us into it in the first place. Do you really trust the likes, for instance, of GWB, Obama, Hillary or Netanyahu and other slime of their ilk to decide the who what and when of war?

    BTW: paratrop’s response is excellent. and FYI, sticking daisies into the barrels of rifles was one helluva lot more powerful than carpet bombing rice paddies. Look who “won.”

  96. Skeptikal says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Charlotte you are a truly obnoxious individual.
    Regardless of what you think of Rachel Corrie’s politics and motivations,
    it is an outrageous desecration to speak of her as Pancake Corrie.
    I am not religious, but this is very basic.

    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
  97. alexander says:

    Dear Mr Giraldi,

    King Bibi responded to the U.N.S.C. resolution last week in no uncertain terms.

    He said he would not “turn the other cheek” and announced a “Declaration of War”.

    Is our best buddy (and closest ally) in the whole wide world….really going to launch a total war against GREAT BRITAIN, FRANCE, ITALY, SWEDEN, JAPAN, RUSSIA and CHINA……simultaneously ?

    And if he is, are Americans supposed to do the fighting ?

    Because it seems that absent initiating the Samson Option…….Israel just does not have the manpower to get it done.

    Does it ?

    And what Is President-elect Trumps view on the matter ?…..Certainly “total war” against the entire civilized world was not part of the campaign platform which won him the White House, was it ?

    • Replies: @another fred
  98. iffen says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    Dang, Ji, you might need to go slow with this thinking stuff; you can’t be sure where you will end up.

  99. iffen says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    Love all you Joo-obsessors coming out of the woodwork.

    They are not coming out of the woodwork; they are the woodwork.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  100. @Skeptikal

    I never called her Pancake Corrie. She was a naive idiot to think she could go into a war zone waving her arms around and everyone would put down their weapons just like that. Her parents were idiots for letting her do a college “internship” in a war zone. It was all very sad.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  101. @Svigor

    Beat me to it. I love it how Jews are always trying to make Israel the model for what Americans need to do , especially when they speak to whites. This dumbass doesn’t understand what his advice would lead to.

  102. @Johnny Smoggins


    I understand that the Palestinians are the victims of the Jews, but the best way to deal with Israelis and Jews is not to argue the rights or wrongs of Palestine, but to concentrate on Jewish tribalism and disloyalty in the U.S. and Europe. Getting into an argument about the ME is what they want. They don’t want to talk about the Jewish role in destroying America for tribal gain or reasons, which should be the topic of discussion.

    Of course the founding of America and the founding of Israel are not the same. But why argue the point? Israel isn’t my responsibility anyway. I don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for Muslims anyway, because most readily ally with Jews against whites in the West. Justice for Palestine will likely follow justice for America.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  103. @OilcanFloyd

    I have little sympathy for Palestinians either to be honest and I’d be happy if all Semites were back where they belong; in the Middle East, but hypocrisy has to be called out.

    I’ve noticed lately that this “America was stolen from the natives, so you can’t say anything about Israel” argument has become more common so it has to be nipped in the bud.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @anonymous
  104. @Johnny Smoggins

    I think it just makes more sense to concentrate on the disloyalty of Jews in America, and the role they play in looting, selling out and destroying America, whether they are SJWs or Zionists. Anything else is a diversion, in my opinion.

  105. @Mao Cheng Ji

    what is there for usa in mucking up the middle east though? we basically destroyed 3 countries since 2003. and has been trying for the 4th one for the last 4-5 years.

    I can’t wrap my head around that. what do the power behind the scene gain from all those destroyed countries? this is no longer 1950s where oil was vital. saudi arabia is more than enough for our oil needs if not our own fracking.

  106. that the Dershowitzs and Krauthammers are just foam on the surface.

    Of course they are. Everyone on the stage is “foam.” The real action is always behind the curtain and we’re the audience.

    There have to be real, totally non-sentimental, non-ethnic, power-and-money interests makings Zionism useful for the US elite…

    Yup. Zionism is nothing but a useful prop. Just like Bolshevism or “Christianity” or whatever. Whenever a tool becomes useless or a better one comes along, the tool gets discarded in a hurry. Hillary and the rest of the courtiers should have known this but their narcissism and greed blind ’em.

    When we prols and peasants manage to be relieved (note the passive tense) of one monster, we get saddled with another. There is no Messiah; all revolutions get co-opted.

    I’ve learned that there is no justification for faith. I wallow in it at my own peril.

  107. @iffen

    iffen says: Next New Comment
    January 4, 2017 at 1:57 pm GMT
    @Charlotte Allen
    Love all you Joo-obsessors coming out of the woodwork.

    They are not coming out of the woodwork; they are the woodwork.

    And the Muslim obsessors…? Don’t ya just hate it when the lights are turned on?

  108. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    Here is a little jewel of an interview with Father Leonard Feeney M.I.C.M. of the Saint Benedict Center back in 1955 regarding the Jewish agenda of swaying American support towards Israel, especially this part:

    Q. Under what guise are the Jews trying to win American opinion to their side?
    A. They are portraying Israel as a beleaguered little democracy, America’s one friend in the Middle East, struggling for existence against hordes of Communist-dominated Arab neighbors.

    Hasabarats have now shifted agendas to the hordes being muslims but the endgame is all the same


    “Israeli Inquiry
    Q. What will be one of the main objectives of the Jews in America during 1956?
    A. They will be striving, with accelerated fervor, to maneuver America into the role of big brother to the State of Israel, the protector of its interests and the conqueror of its foes.
    Q. What led the Jews to choose the year 1956 for this campaign?
    A. The presidential elections in November — an event which causes politicians to cast greedy eyes upon the fat bloc of Jewish votes, ready to fall into the lap of whatever candidate makes the most enticing offers.
    Q. Have the Jews published any announcement of their election-year plans?
    A. As outlined in the Bulletin of the Zionist Organization of America, their intention is “to swing American public opinion to come to Israel’s aid and exert pressure on the Administration of the kind which proved successful in 1947 and 1948, without which the State of Israel would not have come into being.”
    Q. Under what guise are the Jews trying to win American opinion to their side?
    A. They are portraying Israel as a beleaguered little democracy, America’s one friend in the Middle East, struggling for existence against hordes of Communist-dominated Arab neighbors.
    Q. Is there evidence that this portrayal is not quite accurate?
    A. Much, three samples of which follow:
    1) The official report on immigration to Israel, published by the U. S. Department of Commerce, reveals that most Israelis come from (and necessarily with the blessings of) Soviet Russia and her satellites.
    2) As a result of the August elections, the Israeli parliament (the Knesset) is composed of the following elements. Of the Knesset’s 120 seats, forty belong to the Socialist Labor Party (Mapai), an affiliate of the Second International; fifteen belong to the Freedom Party (Herut), political arm of those reportedly-outlawed terrorist gangs whose atrocities shocked the civilized world; ten belong to the Unity of Labor (Ahdut Avoda), an avowedly Marxist group; nine belong to the United Workers Party (Mapam), which advocates “the revolutionary class struggle” and “a firm bond between the workers of the world and the Soviet Union”; and six belong to the Communist Party of Israel — making a total of eighty seats for these extremist factions, or two-thirds of the parliament’s membership.
    3) In June of 1950, an American journalist was told by an official at the Vatican’s Department for Extraordinary Affairs, that the state of Israel is “obviously an outpost of the Soviet Union in the Middle East.” When the journalist objected that the major Israeli party is Socialist and not Communist, he was told, “It is all camouflage. These people are of one mind when it comes to the Christian religion. They are out to de-Christianize the Levant as part of a world-wide plot to destroy what is left of Christian morality.”
    Q. If Zionism and Communism are, then, so closely akin why is Israel presently scorning Russia and turning to the U. S. for help?
    A. This is a move not of necessity, but of prudence. The large quantities of planes, tanks, and guns Israel has already amassed have come to her mainly from behind the Iron Curtain, and Russia is still willing to keep Israel fortified, as she made clear immediately upon announcement of her arms-deal with Egypt. The Jews, however, are genuinely alarmed about the Arab nations, whose lands they have usurped, whose villages they have ravaged and destroyed, whose people they have slaughtered.
    Fearful lest the pent-up rage of the Arab world should finally burst upon them, the Jews want to see the Arabs knocked out once and for all, leaving Israel undisputed mistress of the Middle East. If Russia were to take on the assignment, there would be a danger of the U. S. stepping in on the side of the Arabs. Consequently, the Jews are creating the illusion that Israel is herself a victim of Communist aggression — hopeful that the U. S. can thereby be induced to come to her “defense.”
    Q. Is there no chance that this Jewish scheme will be frustrated?
    A. There is an excellent chance that Americans, weary of fighting fruitless wars, will take the trouble to discover that they are now being invited to do and die for no other purpose than to exalt the Jewish nation — whereupon the Jews are likely to find their boldness met with an unexpectedly formidable reaction.
    Q. Is this the only hope of defeating the Jews?
    A. There is another and better one. It is the wan but still-living hope that the remnants of Christendom, struck with the terrible realization that the land hallowed by the Birth and Death of Christ is now in the hands of His implacable enemies, will arise and rally to that now-more-pertinent call which Pope Urban II issued to the first Crusaders: “Mark out a path all the way to the Holy Sepulcher and snatch the Holy Land from that abominable people!”
    Christian Reminder
    For anyone who wonders whether there is provocation for a present-day Catholic Crusade to rescue the Holy Land, we are concluding this issue with a partial list of the atrocities and desecrations which the Jews have committed in Palestine since 1948. (We make no attempt to indicate here the loss in lives and property suffered by the nearly one million Arabs who have been evicted from their ancient homes during the past seven years.)
    The Jews have defiled and destroyed the following Church buildings: the Church of Saint John the Baptist at Am Karim, the Church of the Beatitudes at Capharnaum, the Church of Mensa Christi on the shores of the Sea of Galilee, the Church of Saint Peter at Tiberias, the Cenacle (the place of the Last Supper) at Jerusalem, the Convent of Mary Reparatrix at Jerusalem, the Convent and Hospice of Notre Dame at Jerusalem, the Convent of the Sisters of Saint Ann at Haifa, the Franciscan Convent at Tiberias, the Patriarchal Seminary at Beit-Jala, the Salesian houses at Cremisan, the Sisters’ Convent at Am Karim, the School of the Sisters of Notre Dame de Sion at Katamon, the Sisters’ residence at Capharnaum, the church and rectory at Ikret. Catholic authorities have estimated that the Jews have destroyed Church property in the Holy Land at the rate of more than two million dollars’ worth a year. To enumerate only French Catholic institutions, they have demolished four hospitals, sixteen dispensaries, two hospices, four seminaries, thirty-two schools and orphanages, and seven retreat houses.
    Among the countless other desecrations we might mention, none is more heart-rending than that of Jerusalem’s Church of the Dormition — the magnificent Romanesque shrine to the Mother of God which was pillaged by Israeli soldiers and then turned into a Jewish dance hall for the young men and women of Haganah. It was only after a hundred such incidents that the Apostolic Delegate, Archbishop Hughes, unequivocally charged that there is now in operation a “deliberate Jewish effort to decimate the Arabs and to destroy Christianity in Palestine.”

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  109. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    An insightful I came upon a few days ago

    A Cautionary Tale

    Modern Israel is simply a re-incarnation of the Crusader kingdoms. It is an invasion from the West, mainly Europe, supported by the West, to establish a religious-based government in the area. The first time around, it was Roman Catholic, this time, it is Jewish, but the dynamic is the same.
    The Crusader kingdoms lasted a couple of hundred years, which is long, measured against the span of a single human life, but rather short, considering the whole sweep of history. Those Crusader kingdoms, like modern Israel, could only be established, and continue to survive, so long as their Western base (at that time, Europe) continued to provide support.
    Given the ups and downs that all great empires experience, it is only a matter of time before Israel’s sponsors and benefactors in the West (this time, it’s America), are distracted by some other problem, whether it’s a war, a depression, or some other difficulty, and will be unable, or unwilling to maintain support. It is also just a matter of time before the Muslim world has another of it’s resurgences. It has happened before, including the original period of the spread of Islam, the age of Saladin, (when the Crusader kingdoms were wiped out), and during the heyday of the Ottomans.
    When those conditions come together, modern Israel, as we know it, will disappear. That is not to say, however that the population of Israel will disappear. There, are, after all, Maronite Christians still living in Lebanon, and elsewhere in the Middle East, including present day Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. There are even a few Assyrians in the region, even though their empire collapsed a couple of millenia ago.
    The fate of the Jewish people in Israel, as opposed to the Jewish state, itself, will depend upon how Israelis treat the majority population of the Middle East. If the Israelis act humanely and fairly, they will most likely be living there, raising their families, and practicing their culture, long after the present Israeli regime collapses, just as they did in many Middle Eastern countries for centuries, prior to 1948.
    But the long term danger is that during their present Crusader kingdom phase; the Israelis will act so badly, will develop such a reputation, and will be hated so much, as a result of their actions, that when Israel’s survival conditions no longer exist (i.e., U.S. support); and when a new Saladin emerges, they will be thrown out of the Middle East, entirely.
    Israel wins short-term tactical victories, but is making a huge strategic blunder, with it’s present policies. The people of Gaza, and Jenin, and Hebron, are going to remember what has happened to them for generations. They will probably build museums to keep the memorabilia of their suffering, and they will teach their children to say: (in the ultimate irony) “Never again”.
    Call it Kharma, or simply say: “what goes around, comes around”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  110. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    Interesting quotes I came upon regarding Jews in the Quran, sounds pretty spot on to me

    [62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful.

    [5.82] Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.

    [5.42] (They are) listeners of a lie, devourers of what is forbidden; therefore if they come to you, judge between them or turn aside from them, and if you turn aside from them, they shall not harm you in any way; and if you judge, judge between them with equity; surely Allah loves those who judge equitably.

    [5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.

    [5.13] But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard; they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others).

    [4.160] Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah’s way.

    [4.161] And their taking usury though indeed they were forbidden it and their devouring the property of people falsely, and We have prepared for the unbelievers from among them a painful chastisement.

    “And We conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture that, “You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.

  111. @Astuteobservor II

    what do the power behind the scene gain from all those destroyed countries?

    See my comment here:

    The ‘Arab World’ – a resource-rich, strategically-located region with over 400 million people with common religion and common language. Should it become united, perusing world domination will become so much more difficult… And world domination is the game, the only game…

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  112. Anonymous [AKA "PG Phippen"] says: • Website

    Thanks Phil, glad you’re still in the game, keep up your sword of truth, there will be much more b.s. to cut through in 2017. Peter

  113. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    Here are your chosen ones:

    The French Press Agency (AFP), much like AP in the United States, of March 2, 2002, had a report on the Israeli occupation of Ramallah last year. I quote:

    In the recent Israeli occupation of the Palestinian town Ramallah, the army took over three of the four television stations. In control of the three stations, Al-Watan, Amway, and Al-Sharaq channels.
    The Israelis began broadcasting hard-core pornography into the Palestinian homes beginning about 3:30 pm in the first day of their occupation. The reaction of the devoutly religious Palestinians, both Christian and Muslim, to the Israeli pornography been pointed.
    The article quotes a some of the Palestinians on this latest Israeli outrage, I quote:

    Anita, a 52-year-old mother of three children, complained about “the deliberate psychological damage caused by these broadcasts”.
    “I am furious, these are the people who are shooting at us that also play this disgusting trick on us,” she said.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  114. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    Supposed Holocaust survivor and a professor at Hebrew University, Israel Shahak says:

    Judaism is imbued with a very deep hatred toward Christianity combined with ignorance about it. This attitude was clearly aggravated by the Christian persecutions of Jews, but is largely independent of them. In fact, it dates from the time when Christianity was still weak and persecuted (not least by Jews), and it was shared by Jews who had never been persecuted by Christians or who were even helped by them…
    According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the Talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned. . .
    The very name Jesus was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable, and this popular tradition still persists. The Gospels are equally detested, and they are not allowed to be quoted (let alone taught) even in modern Israeli schools.

    “Jewish children are actually taught – passages such as that which commands every Jew, whenever passing near a cemetery, to utter a blessing if it is Jewish, but to curse the mothers of the dead if it is non-Jewish. . . it became customary to spit (usually three times) upon seeing a church or a crucifix” …9

  115. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    Speaking of the Talmud:

    Balaam [Jesus] fornicated with his jackass. (Sanhedrin 105a-b)3
    Jewish priests raised Balaam [Jesus] from the dead and punished him in boiling hot semen.(57a Gittin)4
    She who was the descendant of princes and governors [The Virgin Mary] played the harlot with a carpenter. (Sanhedrin 106a)
    [Jesus] was lowered into a pit of dung up to his armpits. Then a hard cloth was placed within a soft one, wound round his neck, and the two ends pulled in opposite directions until he was dead. (Sanhedrin 52b)

    “Most Christians are under the impression that Judaism is primarily based on the biblical Old Testament. Actually the ultimate authority for Judaism is not the Bible but on what they call the Babylonian Talmud, a series of writings set down in Babylon in the sixth century after Christ.
    The American Heritage Dictionary describes the Talmud as “constituting the basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.””
    The authoritative Universal Jewish Encyclopedia compiled by the leading Rabbinic organizations of the world, makes it very clear that the Talmud, not the Torah or Old Testament, is the supreme authority for Judaism.
    “Thus the ultimate authority for Orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud. The Bible itself ranks second to it in reality, if not in theory. (Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, “Authority” pg. 637) 2

  116. @Mao Cheng Ji

    ahh. the entire purpose is to make a mess. the mess is the goal. gotcha. very interesting.

    damn, if that is true, the power behind the scenes must be foaming at the mouth with the rising china problem.

  117. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    Straight out of the horse’s mouth:

    There’s No Such Thing as Judeo-Christian Values

    “Let’s be clear: Far from “sharing” one tradition, Orthodox Jews are prohibited from marrying Christians, setting foot inside a Christian church—and we can’t even drink from an open bottle of kosher wine that has been used by a Christian. We reject the Christian idea of salvation, we abhor Christian divine teachings on every subject, and we are repulsed and outraged by incessant attempts by Christian missionaries to bring us into their fold.”

    “Incidentally, we have more in common with Muslims than we do with Christians; Jewish law permits Jews to enter a mosque… but not a church.”

    Funny considering the Quran teaches Muslims that Christians are closer to them then the Jews are

    “To insist that we have some kind of bond with religious Christians because of similar core values, is to propagate a terrible lie. Christians who base their views on what they call the Old Testament, don’t view Mosaic law as an abiding legal text. The Church has abolished Torah law as part of its attempt to abolish the very idea of Jewish nationhood.”

    “Jews and Christians differ on every single fundamental principle—even on the meaning of core Scriptural texts. More crucially, Christians rely on the Old Testament for legal delineation; whereas Jews rely solely upon our rabbinic tradition. We never, ever turn to our Bible for legal guidance, only to our rabbinic literature. To suggest that our Sages had anything at all in common with the likes of Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Carter or Pat Robertson is a slap in the face of 2500 years of scholarship.”

  118. joe webb says:

    just wrote this article about it All, in the realm of Liberalism. It addresses why we let a determined leninist-like minority hijack the Body Politic.. Of course, Protestantism is part of it, but it too is just another Society emanation assaulting the political process.

    Fw: Diversity as only the latest term to come from the anti-political liberal tradition.


    Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:16 PM

    The history of Liberalism can be summarized as anti-state, and pro-small group, in a context of Society as opposed to a State . It can also be considered an intensely individualist psychology as opposed to a collectivist psychology. This Individualism is rooted in white racial genetics. No other race demonstrates such pronounced Individualism as Whites. This has been Good, and now it is largely Bad, or bad for the White Race.

    Historically, we do not know where this White race Individualism came from, but we can think about neolithic conditions in Europe that fostered the trait…Individualism.

    We do know that the ancient Greeks invented law and equality before the law, more or less, and free speech, in the sense that Greeks and then Romans, as citizens , enjoyed what anyone today would recognize as political rights and the right to speak. Greece particularly admired and celebrated speaking and acting….This was the definition of the Whole Man. What most folks today have little interest in is that our
    greco-Roman-Germanic (to a large degree) antiquity also demanded obligations and duties from its citizens.

    Liberalism has not and does not recognize obligations and duties of the person, toward the State, except of course in wartime, when a different psychology is developed by fear. The normal peacetime psychology is “Freedom”…freedom from state interference in one’s “rights,” usually to get rich.

    The long tradition of liberal political theory stretching from Hobbes and Locke to today, is a tradition of extreme suspicion of one’s fellows (racial fellows to be sure) and extreme suspicion of the State. Thus we have our Checks and Balances, Separation of Powers, Federalism, and we worship a contract called The Constitution, which is legalistic, and questionably political in the sense that politics is defined as what matters to the Whole society and state. The Constitution is silent with regard to a Bill of Responsibilities,

    What politics is, is whole, or holistic in today’s terms. Taking a holistic approach to anything, especially human affairs, demands more comprehensive thinking than any law can compass. (An example of how that is recognized today is the ‘case by case’ basis that political and administrative institutions need to deal with complex situations.) No aggregation of disparate groups is going to come up with a national will or national consciousness. Society is hopeless as a source of Authority. It can be compared to the Internet cacophony today, an anarchy.

    Only politics can achieve a national consciousness. However, a national politics cannot be based on lies, like racial equality, or a refusal to deal with reality, not day dreams, and peace and love. Hate, and war are part of the human condition, and must be dealt with as adults, with frank admission of the facts, and equally calm deliberation about these facts….like immigration, race, war for the Jews, borders, and radically unequal racial intelligence.

    The Liberal Tradition is English and American, in the largest part, although Europe has certainly had its liberals, like de Tocqueville, a French aristocrat who sided with the Democratic Revolution begun in 1789, the French Revolution, and wrote Democracy in America, a famous text still very valuable, and its fascination with Equality….an absolutely new thing, not seen since Greece and Rome, with some small exceptions like free cities in feudal Europe. More on Equality later. Our distinctively American politics, or swerve away from politics and toward religion, peace and love promiscuity (love everybody), and obsession with Freedom, meaning personal freedom to be as stupid , or sexual, or greedy as we want….all of this is part of the Liberal Tradition. There has been a constant drumbeat against the State, and for the pluralism of Society…anything goes. We are seeing the result of this now, with the country on the edge of civil war, after the culture wars of the last couple decades.

    Classical liberalism is dead, with even its Free Speech under attack by the social justice warriors. Liberalism today has been colonized by communism, jews, and misfits. All of this has happened under the Reign of Society. Society is life. The State is Oppression, the Hard White Male setting the civilizational standard. Society is a blob, a glob, a mob of resenters with personal agendas. No comprehensive view is at hand by these folks. Whites now, like the bourgeoisie of the communist obsession, are to be liquidated. There is no politics here, only murder and dispossession. Of course, The Political will Return, starting with Trump, but he is not capable of extending a national agenda. There will be another chapter in the national will to live. Politics returns, and Society will be out of the political equation. In other words, your sexuality, your racist minority claims will be rejected out of hand, your revanchist mexican claims will be stamped out, and your passions for a foreign power like Israel, will also be eliminated. This is one country, and one people. No country has ever succeeded as a racially mixed society. Genetic Similarity is the First Principle. We had a civil war over the Negro, and we may have another one. Bloodshed is a fact of life, especially in racially mixed societies. Then there are the muzzies coming.

    After the collapse of Greece because of the exhaustion of the Pelopponesian Wars, while Greece was taken over by Rome, Greek Culture spread in Asia Minor, and into Rome. Hellenism, as this cultural phenomenon is called, abandoned The Political when it abandoned the Polis, the city-state which had developed what we call politics today, the life of the country taken as a whole, and in which the citizen was required to participate, or else to be thought a fool, an Idiot in today’s words. The problem was that the polis was too small, too individualistic, too proud, and too combative. Arguably too White as well, with out racial tendency of extreme individualism, and competition, and highly spirited men…like Achilles, who will never get along with anybody.

    The Stoics came along about 300 BC and largely recommended a non or apolitical life. When the polis was lost, so was the Structure of political life. In its stead spread democratic ideas in the extreme, including Ideas of complete equality, not just political equality, religion, even a “transcendent society” much in the same way as the dreamers today go on and on. “Humanity” was invented…an error, but it fed into Christianity and … we are with these same Ideas.

    “The decline of the polis as the nuclear center of human existence had apparently deprived political thought of its basis unit of analysis, one that it was unable to replace. Without the polis , political philosophy had been reduced to the status of a subject-matter in search of a relevant context. Instead of redefining the new societies in political terms, political philosophy turned into a species for moral philosophy, addressing itself not to this or that city, but to all mankind. When Eratosthenes advised Alexander to ignore Aristotle’s distinction between greeks and barbarians, and to govern instead by dividing men into “good’ and “bad,” this marked not only a step towards a conception of racial equality but a stage in the decline of political philosophy. Aristotle’s distinction has been derived from an essentially political judgment about the competence of non-Greeks to undertake political responsibilities.”

    Allow me to go on with this pregnant remark.

    “Eratosthenes’ advice indicated that political thought, like the polis itself has been superseded by something broader, vaguer, and less political. The “moral” and overridden the “political” because the ‘moral’ and the ‘good’ had come to be defined in relation to what transcended a determinate society existing in time and space……a tradition of political philosophy had exchanged its political element for a vapid moralism.”

    Quotes from Politics and Vision, by Sheldon Wolin, 1960. ( a prof of mine at Cal about 1964, who dismissed Jewish thought as having nothing to offer politics/philosophy in the West. He of course could have said a lot more about jews…the genetic theocrats, along with their fellow Semites…the Arabs and Persians.)

    Sound familiar? The claims of race equality, equality in general, the pie in the sky leftism of 1`789 has replaced reality with abstractions which carry zero correspondence in the world as we know it. But , it gets more interesting in terms of the Liberal Tradition.

    The quest for Freedom from the State, has set up countervailing locations of power, to fight off the State. Not only the previously discussed checks and balances on the state itself, but a whole range of groups, voluntary organizations, what we call NGOs today, and a Free Market in economics is celebrated as a guaranteeing Freedom, whatever that is,.since we presumably already possess the Bill of Rights, etc. What Liberalism celebrates in what used to be called Pluralism back a few decades. The idea is the same, many groups cancelling one-another out in power terms. The State is hobbled, and Society mucks along.

    Enter Diversity a couple decades back. Never mind the absurdities of equality in general for now. Diversity is another vaunting of Society and its groups of Equals all competing and cooperating, as the ideology has it. Society is a vast Blob, an amorphous thing called Culture which has no center, no Authority, no central Principle except that there is no Principle except ….yes Diversity. All claims are equal. Whatever! reigns supreme. And any claim advanced for superiority, or rank, is hooted down.

    There is the Black Community, the Gay Community, the Latino, the Jewish, etc. communities. However, try out “the White community” and see what happens. The Blob Culture is such that any claim for Better or more important. or for Unity, a unified vision of state and society, is rejected out of hand, unless of course, it is the Diverse Rainbow community which is pie in the sky, with no relation to the above ‘determinate society existing in time or space.’

    We are living is an anarchic time brought on by Liberal rejection of Authority. The only authority that Liberalism can point to is Diversity, which rejects authority and actually is constituted by competing groups, minority racists, and selfish hustlers …all of whom claim to be more equal than others. It is a spoils system. There is no fundamental agreement on national goals, national history, national values.

    What we got is the result of an evasion of Authority. Greece and for some time, Republican Rome, called outsiders, barbarians. They knew from practical experience what non-whites were. And, beyond Race, Greek paideia and Roman virtu kept the thing going. They kept it going for centuries. We are on our last century because we have an insane mantra of Diversity Makes Us Stronger. Any Greek or Roman, or just about anyone from any time or place would jeer at such insanity. Unity means common values, common experience, common expectations, and common racial composition.

    All political theorists up to say, 1960, even classic liberals, believed in this. In spite of our white altruism-based delusions about race equality, Commerce demands anti-racism! to sell its crap. We whites were racialist until about 1950, despite our own racial altruism. Despite the pointy- headed liberal intellectuals looking for badges and promotions and transcendental societies, all of course still group based and engaged in competition to prevent the State from whatever, we survived these lefties when it came down to the Fundamental of Barbarians…whether Black, yellow, or brown.

    Trump with all his warts, especially his jew love, is calling for Unity and national values. This is a good start to recapture a political life, and not just one of privacy, material interests, and subjection to small group pee-cee, and apathy/stupidity. The restoration of Politics has begun. Liberal bromides and lies ….lay panting on the floor. They will survive for awhile but either they die, or the US dies.

    Joe Webb

  119. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    I don’t think so!

    “The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would be like saying Satanic-Christianity. The religion now called Judaism did not even come formally into existence until six hundred years after Jesus Christ. It began with the codification of the Babylonian Talmud. In Judaism, the Talmud is the supreme scripture, not the Old Testament. Only Satanism can rival Judaism’s vicious hatred for Jesus Christ. The Talmud even claims that Jesus Christ is being punished in hell by “being boiled in hot semen!”1
    When I first read this hateful Talmudic quote, I just couldn’t believe it. Maybe you don’t believe what I am saying right now, but read on and I will prove to you that this quotation is accurate and that Judaism is intrinsically and viciously anti-Christian. Judaism is the embodiment of the same Satanic tradition that Christ condemned when He referred to “the synagogue of Satan.” (Rev. 2-9) What I say here I can prove in the documented words of the most sacred texts of Judaism and in the clearly documented words of the highest authorities of Judaism itself, and even more importantly, in the scriptures of the New Testament.
    Interestingly enough, Islam is much closer to Christianity than Judaism. For instance, Judaism condemns the Virgin Mary as a prostitute and viciously condemns Jesus as an evil sorcerer and a bastard. The Talmud even claims that Jesus was a sexual pervert who had intercourse relations with his donkey. In stark contrast, although Islam certainly does not share all the Christian views of Jesus Christ, it views Christ as a true prophet of God, virgin-born, and that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. Ironically, the chief religious book of Islam, the Qur’an, actually defends Jesus Christ from the obscene slanders made against Him in the Jewish Talmud.

    • Replies: @Alden
  120. @Astuteobservor II

    I can’t wrap my head around that. what do the power behind the scene gain from all those destroyed countries?

    Whoever it is (if any) had better have a damn good bunker to hide in. Otherwise they should be careful what they wish for.

    /Yeah, I end sentences in prepositions. So what?

  121. annamaria says:

    “Israel shouldn’t be much of a U.S. issue…”

    Is not that simple? – No financial/political support for Israel, no issue.
    “Americans must be free from hatreds and irrational attachments to foreign nations if they are to become partisans of their own. Preconceived positions restrict policy options and prevent the nation from responsibly choosing its own course.”

  122. @alexander

    Because it seems that absent initiating the Samson Option…….Israel just does not have the manpower to get it done.

    Does it ?

    I hesitate to mention this in this context as I generally try to stay out of the good Jew/bad Jew diatribes that go on here, but people really need to re-orient their thinking about what will be needed to wage war as genetic manipulation matures (assuming the predictions of the coming power of CRISPR are reasonably accurate).

    Not only will the size of a nation not be a determinant of the ability to wreak devastation on the world, but that ability will be within the grasp of non-state actors of modest means.

    In one sense, small size will be an asset as it will decrease the number of vaccinations needed to protect the group.

    This should not be taken as a prediction that Jews or any other one group are going to do the deed, just that as the ability to do it gets more and more available, someone will eventually loose the demon.

    • Replies: @alexander
  123. @Astuteobservor II

    “what do the power behind the scene gain from all those destroyed countries?”

    Here’s a clue.

    Also check out the stock market at an all-time high. No coincidence.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  124. Art says:

    Oh my — another crime on the shoulders of the Jews. They screwed America again.

    RFK would have made a great president – he had honesty and courage.

    I did not know this story – it makes me sick!


  125. skrik says:

    You can bet it’s not just $s; consider the ‘multitude’ of parliamentarians of many stripes going on ‘expenses paid’ tours of ‘the holey land’ [sic], a pleasant dinner, a glass or two of fine wine, then ‘encountering’ that ‘dish’ from a nearby table, in the lift on the way up to the room. Then the sweaty little man behind the air-conditioning grill, with his full-HD videocam… in the morning, in the hang-over from the date-rape drug, and the grim realization dawning. Better put a smile on, then. After all, what’s the alternative? It’s part of what politicians do; go with the flow. Pity about truth and justice. rgds

  126. iffen says:

    two weeks in a row

    2,2,2 now 3, 3 can I get 3, do I hear 4,

  127. alexander says:
    @another fred

    War by genetic manipulation ……..Fred ?

    What is wrong with the world just abstaining from “war” altogether ?

    Why is that so stupid ?

    Do you realize with just a third of the ten trillion dollar war debt we have on the books now, the United States could have sent at least two manned missions to Mars, as well as launched a half dozen super sensitive orbital telescopes….that would probably have detected “life as we know it ” on at least one bona fide “earth like” planet (if not more).. in our milky way ?

    Not to mention all the terrific stuff we could have done here at home…

    Isn’t it just a little bit cooler, Fred, to find “life”….. than “exterminate” it ?

    • Replies: @another fred
  128. @Jeff Albertson

    what does national debt and stock market prices have to do with my question?

    • Replies: @Jeff Albertson
  129. @Anon-og

    Damn conspiracy theorists and forgeries!!!! 😉

    (Awesome post.)

  130. @Anon-og

    Ineffable sickos.

    “WASHINGTON — “I’m not spreading propaganda,” George Stephanopoulos’ orthodox-nun sister vows, but Israeli soldiers last week “defecated” on the floors of a West Bank medical clinic they raided.
    They’re also looting Palestinians’ homes there, claims Sister Maria Stephanopoulos, a nun at the Convent of St. Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem.”

    Did someone mention shit?

    “[Israeli] Skunk truck spraying putrid liquid [sewage]all over residential homes in the village of Nabi Saleh.”


    Americans…Your tax dollars at work.

    • Replies: @Alden
  131. Uslabor says:

    Rachel Corrie, killed by a brave Israeli Caterpillar driver.

  132. @alexander

    Why is that so stupid ?

    Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior (besides a lot of things we are learning about instincts).

    I’m a 70 yo male winding down the last part of my life. I don’t have much in the way of wishes but to see my children (and grand) live well and to go fishing once in a while, but I tell my children they should be prepared for war to come. It will be ugly, but as long as we do not have a total launch between two of the major powers, life will go on.

  133. @Alden

    I know little about Sirhan Sirhan’s real intentions but on the night of the murder of RFK he was used as a patsy.

    • Replies: @Alden
  134. @RobinG

    To RobinG,

    I appreciated your followup to my comment, including the important video “link” to John Hagee’s Zionist Christian-world view.

    I had hoped Mark Green would have joined in the original discussion, but understandably, he might be a scholarly type who’d prefer not entering into discussions on the successful de-spiritual Zionization of U.S. Christianity.

    At any rate, I want to add that America now has an (unannounced) “Living Church” like post-revolution Russians got during the 1920s-1930s. Now, an American Christian can profess & act in the the name of Jesus Christ as long as their words & deeds do not run contrary to the their particular church and the USrael government. (P. Giraldi asks, “U.S. or Israel first?” Argument is now superfluous because the making of any such distinction places one into the piglet category of thinking there is a difference)

    Respectfully, I offer an example of a Scranton, PA, Catholic priest, Reverend William Pickard who acted upon his conscience and got arrested. Last year, I met Father Pickard at a South Side Dunkin’ Donuts where he humbly discussed his (non-church sanctioned) protest against the murderous drone program underway at the Hancock (New York) Air Base. Please take a moment to look at the “link” below?

    Sadly, when I attended mass at my Scranton-based Catholic Church, not a word was uttered at altar about Father Pickard’s bravery and arrest. Merely back page blurbs about his arrest in local newspapers and except for friends and family, the priest stood alone but for family & friends and his motivational Messiah.

    RobinG… I offer a final comment and will make return to a back row seat in my “Living Church” catacomb.

    At Noon on July 23, 2009, while inside my company’s Haz-Mat Response vehicle, I turned the radio to WILK channel, and listened to the “breaking” news about Levy Izhak Rosenbaum, of Brooklyn, NY. Undercover F.B.I. agents performed a sting operation and charged Levy Rosenbaum with brokering sales of “black-market” kidneys and selling them to desperate people in the U.S. for as much as $160,00o.

    “Another disgusting and hellish deed,” I immediately thought. A couple weeks later, I talked to my Catholic parish priest about Levy Rosenbaum’s business and his arrest. The priest laughed the matter away, and stated, “Oh well, given our clergy’s corruption scandals, who am I to judge the behavior of brother Jews?” A good point, eh, RobinG? Mutual moral degeneration…

    Finally, I really admire and agree with the sign that you raised at the CUFI conference, “Your Support of John Hagee is your ticket to Hell.” But I must add that our national impulse to excuse & accept Israeli anti-Christian behavior toward Arabs has set the table for President Donald Trump who regularly played “Sympathy for the Devil” at his campaign rallies, and wants to move the USrael embassy to Jerusalem.

    Thank you!

    • Replies: @RobinG
  135. @Astuteobservor II

    The deficit is roughly one trillion per year. The budget of the MICC is roughly the same, and is almost entirely wasted, indeed damaging to America’s actual interests. If we weren’t borrowing the money to shower on the financial, defense and bogus “security” sectors of the economy, the remainder of equities (the real economy) would be a small fraction of what we have now, and the corporations would have to provide real services to voluntary consumers.

    The entirety of the war on terror is to provide an excuse to lock taxpayers into permanent, involuntary debt servitude and divert resources to the financial elite, who either (to be charitable) don’t care about the resulting death and destruction, or more likely are quite pleased with it. The twin signatures of the neocon project are that the real goals are never stated, and all the expenses fall on someone else. Hillary summed it up nicely in her remarks about public and private truths; she spilled the Straussian beans. They are liars, thieves and murderers. God willing, Trump will Andrew Jackson their fat asses.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  136. Agent76 says:

    Dec 29, 2016 Rabbis Support UN Resolution in front of White House

    Rabbi Dovid Feldman of Neturei Karta International, Jews United Against Zionism, speaks at a press conference in support of recent United Nations resolution 2334 condemning Israeli settlements as illegal. The event took place in front of the White House in Washington DC, on December 29, 2016.

  137. Paul C. says:

    Chris Bollyn did an analysis of who shot RFK.

    Given what we know now about staged events, it was most certainly not Sirhan Sirhan. He’s just the “Palestinian” fall guy. It was revealed that his gun held 8 bullets yet 13 were found.

    The Kennedy’s wanted AIPAC to be registered as a foreign agent, so Israel couldn’t buy and control US politicians as they are today. With their assassinations, this never came to pass.

    • Replies: @Alden
  138. RobinG says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Sorry to switch subjects on you C.O., but I want to preserve this comment. While I don’t usually read Anatoly Karlin, I’m glad I noticed this gem:

    What I do dislike is the sheer chutzpah that many Jews display in smearing Russia, even though Jews disproportionately staffed the apparatus responsible for murdering two orders of magnitude more Russians in the 1920s and 1930s than the 2,000 or so Jews who were murdered by vigilantes during the late Tsarist pogroms. Russians saved at least a couple of million Jews by ending the Holocaust, but the neocons and most American Jews sided with Ukrainian Banderists, who would have been quite happy to see it through to the end. Despite the vast majority of the 1990s robber oligarchs having been Jewish, many of whom turned sharply against Russia when something approximating a sovereign state was established under Putin, Russia remains a very philo-Semitic country by East European standards. In this respect, you could say we Russians are more cucked than American evangelicals!

    But the best part about it is that as a rule many of (((those))) people are also extremely supportive of Israel, a country which happens to be far more of a “national state” than either Russia or any other Western country. As soon as Article 282 was brought against the Russian liberal/Jewish nationalist Anton Nossik for calling for the extermination of Syrians, on the basis that it was good for Israel, the entire Echo of Moscow (((crowd))) suddenly became ardent proponents of free speech, even though they had previously been at the forefront of writing Russia’s hate speech laws in the first place. “Nationalism for me, not for thee” has of course been a consistent credo of neocon-liberal Jewry in both Russia and the West.

  139. Kek says:
    @Aaron Aarons

    American Jews are the ones constantly trying to shame white Gentiles for their treatment of other races, yet usually support Israel’s behavior as well as their own tribe’s tendencies toward malignant narcissism. Total hypocrites, to the point of pathology.

    • Replies: @Aaron Aarons
  140. mcohen says:

    Funny no one has picked up the last sentence about Asia.thought Israel was in the middle east

    Another click bait story for the anti Israel forum the way he apologises for his second story in 2 weeks

    What’s up Ron unz are we running out of bait.

  141. Alden says:
    @jacques sheete

    This is mean and rude, but 2 legs and an arm? It reminds me of that movie Starship Troopers. The earth has been attacked by the monster insect people for generations

    And many of the teachers and military recruiters are veterans of the wars. They are just heads and torsos with various artificial appendages. And all these disabled vets are ardent patriots who encourage the high school kids to join the military and be maimed.

  142. Alden says:
    @Paul C.

    I’ve read some of those Sirhan didn’t kill Kennedy books. They make a point, who knows? But I like to post what happened to the Sirhan family as an illustration of what the Jews did to just one upper middle class harmless Christian family.
    But the Palestinians are lucky compared to what the Jewish communists did in Russia and Eastern Europe
    I live near a big federal building. Every once a while the Palestinians have a demonstration. I always go. Useless of course.

  143. Alden says:

    I post the story of the Sirhan family as an excellent illustration of what happened to just one of millions of Palestinians. And the Jews always claim that the Palestinians just fled their homes and refused to return.
    I know there are various theories about who killed both Kennedys. That the Israelis did those assassinations makes sense.
    But I like to post the story to illustrate what happened to just one harmless Christian family among millions of Paleatinians.
    The Old Testament bible thumpers go beserk because they think that only Muslims were driven out.

  144. Alden says:
    @jacques sheete

    The Zionists did that back in the 1940s to show their contempt for the Goyim, defined as unclean, filth, abomination 2 legged animal.

  145. Duglarri says:

    I’ve come to the conclusion that the annexation of the West Bank that people like Bolton have made inevitable will lead to a reckoning on values.

    The value is this: that all men are created equal. And here we have a state that says, no, in our state, some people are less than equal, and will always be so, and will always have lesser rights.

    We won’t abide slavery. Will we abide this attenuated version of slavery?

    Zionism stands in opposition to core principle on which Western civilization is founded.

    Can a state like this be tolerated?

    It think the 14-0 vote with one abstention shows the answer. In the long run, no.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  146. @Druid

    Yes, Jews were heavily involved in the African slave trade. I make no excuses for that, nor for many other crimes that Jewish merchants and bankers have played a large part in. But what does that have to do with my objection to invoking the white settler nationalism of George Washington in supposed opposition to the white settler nationalism of the European Jewish settlers of Palestine?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @pensword
  147. @Johnny Smoggins

    Your first paragraph doesn’t apply to me, since I have always encouraged people I interact with to repudiate Israel along with its patron, the U.S..

    But the rest of what you write is arrogant, patronizing nonsense. On a technological level, the indigenous peoples of North America were living like Northern Europeans had been living a few hundred, or maybe even a few thousand, years earlier, but they were, for the most part, living decent lives. The main thing the white invaders did was to kill the overwhelming majority of those native people and force the survivors onto lands that could barely sustain life. And the settler population’s capitalists continue to ignore treaties and deny the indigenous survivors the rights to the wealth that is often discovered on their remaining land. Pay them for this wealth, and past stolen wealth, as white property owners would be paid, and the native peoples wouldn’t have any need fot all those programs you refer to. Largesse, my ass!

    But you know all that, don’t you?

    BTW, a disproportionate contribution to the inventions that whites generously bestowed upon the ghosts of those they exterminated was made by Jews, who are only, and then without acknowledgement, included as whites when it suits the needs of Christian white supremacists.

    • Replies: @Art
  148. @Duglarri

    “We won’t abide slavery. Will we abide this attenuated version of slavery.”

    On the day U.S.S. Liberty was attacked by Israelis, the successful fighter pilots might have boarded the sinking recon ship, and toss commemorative crates, labeled “U.S. justice,” overboard into Med Sea, and afterward deign the act as The Bolton Tea Party.

    Please consider looking Dr. William Pierce’s You Tube video (below) and you will more so appreciate web site “news” & comment exchanges available at The Unz Review?

    Sadly, Dugglarri, the nation of USrael has no choice but to “tolerate” Zionist injustice.

  149. @Aaron Aarons

    Only that one occurred prior to the concept of international laws and the other didn’t. How could you not know this?

  150. Anonymous [AKA "Muslim"] says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    “…a bulwark against Islam”

    Islam simply stands for complete submission to the One, Infinite & Unique God. Infinite & Unique connotes that He can’t be man-like, animal-like, or ghost-like. You understand? I suppose not.

    Heartless, diseased souls, the likes of you, who stands against that are necessarily standing with Satan.

    I vaguely wonder how you will manage to cohabit a certain place, with the evil whose moustache you can’t stand… that too, for all eternity. But, I suppose that will be the very least of your torment.

    In anticipation of that just comeuppance, please allow me this intense feeling of advance schadenfreude.


  151. pensword says:
    @Aaron Aarons

    You appeal to a distant, shameful history in order to rationalize Israel’s contemporary criminality. Native Americans’ traditional worldview of ownership was vastly different from that of the white men who claimed “newfound” territory as their own. They did not consider land to have any particular owner. White men exploited this to their advantage, leaving the Natives little choice but to eventually assimilate a concept of land ownership originally alien to them. The mitigation of this conflict is not something of which we Americans should be proud, and it could stand some improvement, but most Native Americans aren’t staking a claim to anything more than traditional burial or ceremonial terrain.

    Furthermore, Native American nations are recognized as sovereign jurisdictions under the aegis of American federal law. Israel does not recognize Palestinian sovereignty, and regularly interferes in the PA’s political administration.

    But here’s the central distinction: America is still coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged. Israel refuses even acknowledgment of its current dispossession and mistreatment.

    Big difference.

    • Replies: @Aaron Aarons
  152. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Given what Israel has been doing, that is quite an indictment of criminality of your kind. If you think that is something to be proud of, you are too screwed to be salvaged.

    “White people got to the top by behaving like Israel is behaving at the present.”

    Since you sound like one of those alt-right white supremacist christians, I’ll say this… If your faith makes you believe that the One who created everything, actually created one race of man to be superior to another, then that proves the sheer moral and spiritual bankruptcy of your faith.

    It feels good that the likes of you are on the opposite side of mine.

    It proves that *we* are on to something true. Thank you for that.

  153. SPQR70AD says:

    well brian mast is certainly not a “demolition expert” unless that means blowing yourself up. at least he has paid for his crimes

  154. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Smoggins


    The white race has proven to be the greatest hypocrites this world has ever seen.

    And, who needs the sympathy of hypocrites.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  155. SPQR70AD says:
    @Aaron Aarons

    when the americans fought the Indians most of the time it was a fair fight until the end. America did not force the west to finance the war or did the indian wars were to lead to a world war. the americans did not site idiotic bible verses written by inbred rabbis saying god promised them the land . there is no comparison

  156. SPQR70AD says:
    @Mark Green

    they are not children of zion but they are satans spawn as Jesus described them…..John 8-44

  157. Sam Shama says:

    Hi Robin:
    I persevered till the very end and was rewarded with “Yerushalayim shel zahav, ve shel nekhoshet ve shel or, halo lekol shirayikh ani kinor

    🙂 Thank you!

    Look, I have a number of evangelical friends, and they are not crazy nor stupid. Far from it; many of them are very accomplished [including physicists, mathematicians etc] have a very nuanced reading of the world today: the role of religion, the meaning of rapture and the eschatology involved; it does NOT involve a nuclear armageddon as many misguided people seem to think [like that Jewish bloke in the video] . Of course, they have in their ranks, the loons who believe other religions, [Islam, mostly], to be the club of Satan, a common accusation made by and against any and all competing religions, Judaism rather not spared of that distinction by its detractors.

    I find interacting with groups like these intriguing, that’s all.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Chuck Orloski
  158. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    I found an Evangelical who said X shares the same discontinuity of thought as the I found a Jew who said Y.

    Evangelical and Jew are interchangeable with other terms just as X, Y and Z are interchangeable.

    Afterwards, the value to rational thought is zero.

    • Agree: Sam Shama
  159. @pensword

    Again, I must refute the claim that I have any desire to rationalize Israel’s contemporary criminality. Rather, I am answering the question raised by this article by pointing out the reasons for rejecting loyalty to either the United States or Israel.

    And while the United States has made some moves towards “coming to terms with its past dispossession and mistreatment of the indigenous population, one that it has formally acknowledged”, most of the population that is heir to their genocide* still acts like it has virtually exclusive rights not only to the political entity called “the United States” but to the land that that entity occupies! Thus U.S. nationalists don’t hesitate to insist, by force, that Native Americans from Central America and Mexico have no rights to be on the land occupied by the United States without the permission, usually refused, of the settler population.

    * We are talking here of genocide by physical annihilation, not by largely-voluntary assimilation, as in so-called “white genocide”.

    • Replies: @pensword
    , @NoseytheDuke
  160. @Jeff Albertson

    ahh ok. basically making constant war for the sake of money funneling into the MIC. and the debt it incurs is to lock the public into debt servitude. that is how I understood your comment. is that correct?

  161. Junior says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    I would really like to see some serious analysis of the US establishment support for Zionism.

    A great place to start is, one of the more recent examples of our treasonous politicians putting Israel interests above the interest of America, Hillary Clinton’s Dec. 31, 2012 email while she was Secretary of State that was revealed by Wikileaks.

    “The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad.” – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

    US Department of State under case number F-2014-20439, Doc No. C05794498.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  162. @Junior

    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything 🙂 like some are trying to go for that route. I guess that was how she earned all the msm support during her run.

    • Replies: @Junior
  163. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Charlotte Allen

    “…or an Islamic hellhole (pick any Muslim country–hey, pick Turkey!”

    When you dig at the root causes of who caused these “hellholes,” to be “hellholes,” you will find dirty, lily white hands.

    You do realise that primary punishment is reserved for the evil masterminds, who put their evil into motion, not the fools who actually pull the trigger.

    Muslims may be guilty of being foolish, but your side… boy!!

  164. Alden says:
    @Aaron Aarons

    So why don’t you go back to Russia or wherever your communist grandparents came from if you are so outraged about living in a country stolen from the Indians?

    Anyway, recent archeological discoveries shows that European Whites arrived on the east coast of America about 30,000 years ago, 15,000 years before the first evidence of Asian types arriving on the west coast.

    The only skeleton found on the west coast in Washington state happens to be a 9,000 year old Caucasian.

    The east coast Indians of Anerica and especially Canada all had legends that their ancestors came from across the sea, the Atlantic.
    Latest theory is that the Asians from the west coast eventually overwhelmed the Soultryean Caucasian people of the east coast.

  165. @Sam Shama

    Sam Shama,

    No doubt, you’d find it intriguing by interacting with “groups” identified in the You Tube video, below.

    I’d wager that quite a number of evangelical physicists and mathematicians already know about the Christian Sandals (remaining) on-the-Ground, in Occupied Palestine.

    Thank you, wish you well!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  166. @n230099

    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”. They say Israel profited from the devastation of Syria, Iraq etc., but who decided to start all those criminal wars? Who bombed peaceful and prosperous country Libya? And what for?

  167. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Hi Chuck,
    Yeah, Pallywood does a good job in producing these. Here is one for you:


    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  168. geokat62 says:

    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.

    Technically you’re right. Netanyahu shouted “Saddam must go.” It was Sharon who shouted “Assad must go.”


    Gunning for Syria

    Israeli leaders did not push the Bush administration to put the screws on Syria before March 2003; they were too busy pushing for war against Iraq. But once Baghdad fell in mid-April, Sharon and his lieutenants began urging Washington to target Damascus. On April 16, for example, Sharon and Shaul Mofaz, his defense minister, gave high-profile interviews in different Israeli newspapers. Sharon, in Yedioth Ahronoth, called for the United States to put “very heavy” pressure on Syria. Mofaz told Ma’ariv, “We have a long list of issues that we are thinking of demanding of the Syrians, and it is appropriate that it should be done through the Americans.” Sharon’s national security adviser, Ephraim Halevy, told a WINEP audience that it was now important for the United States to get rough with Syria. The Washington Post reported that Israel was “fueling the campaign” against Syria by feeding the United States intelligence reports about the actions of President Bashar al-Asad.

    Prominent members of the lobby made the same arguments after Baghdad fell. Wolfowitz declared, “There has got to be regime change in Syria.” Richard Perle told a journalist, “We could deliver a short message, a two-word message [to other hostile regimes in the Middle East]: ‘You’re next’.” In early April, WINEP released a bipartisan report stating that Syria “should not miss the message that countries that pursue Saddam’s reckless, irresponsible and defiant behavior could end up sharing his fate.” On April 15, Yossi Klein Halevi wrote a piece in The Los Angeles Times entitled “Next, Turn the Screws on Syria.” The following day, Zev Chafets wrote an article for the New York Daily News entitled “Terror-Friendly Syria Needs a Change, Too.” Not to be outdone, Lawrence Kaplan wrote in The New Republic on April 21 that Syrian leader Asad was a serious threat to America.

    Back on Capitol Hill, Congressman Eliot Engel (D-NY) had reintroduced the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act on April 12. It threatened sanctions against Syria if it did not withdraw from Lebanon, give up its WMD and stop supporting terrorism. It also called for Syria and Lebanon to take concrete steps to make peace with Israel. This legislation was strongly endorsed by the lobby — especially AIPAC — and “framed,” according to the Jewish Telegraph Agency, “by some of Israel’s best friends in Congress.” It had been on the back burner for some time, largely because the Bush administration had little enthusiasm for it. But the anti-Syrian act passed overwhelmingly (398-4 in the House; 89-4 in the Senate), and Bush signed it into law on December 12, 2003.

    Yet the Bush administration was still divided about the wisdom of targeting Syria at that time. Although the neoconservatives were eager to pick a fight with Damascus, the CIA and the State Department were opposed. Even after Bush signed the new law, he emphasized that he would go slowly in implementing it.

    Bush’s ambivalence is understandable. First, the Syrian government had been providing the United States with important intelligence about al-Qaeda since 9/11 and had also warned Washington about a planned terrorist attack in the Gulf.

    Syria had also given CIA interrogators access to Mohammed Zammar, the alleged recruiter of some of the 9/11 hijackers. Targeting the Asad regime would jeopardize these valuable connections and thus undermine the larger war on terrorism.

    Second, Syria was not on bad terms with Washington before the Iraq War (it had even voted for U.N. Resolution 1441), and it was no threat to the United States. Playing hardball with Syria would make the United States look like a bully with an insatiable appetite for beating up Arab states. Finally, putting Syria on the American hit list would give Damascus a powerful incentive to cause trouble in Iraq. Even if one wanted to pressure Syria, it made good sense to finish the job in Iraq first.

    Yet Congress insisted on putting the screws to Damascus, largely in response to pressure from Israeli officials and pro-Israel groups like AIPAC. If there were no lobby, there would have been no Syria Accountability Act, and U.S. policy toward Damascus would have been more in line with the U.S. national interest.

    • Replies: @Mikhailovich
  169. Anonymous [AKA "bill shea"] says:

    Wait ’til son in law Jared gets into the White House then you’ll see the real action. Sit’s on the board Director’s of th American Friends of the IDF and family big on funding for occupied land

  170. pensword says:
    @Aaron Aarons

    most of the population that is heir to their genocide

    Would that the son bore sins of the father … Such an argument may be made of those who continue to rationalize those sins. Comparing contemporary Americans against today’s zionists, it’s rather easy to demonstrate generational continuity of conviction among the latter of the two. More difficult to do so among the former.

    Thus U.S. nationalists don’t hesitate to insist, by force, that Native Americans from Central America and Mexico have no rights to be on the land occupied by the United States without the permission, usually refused, of the settler population.

    An unfortunate reality with which at least half of the American population disagrees.

    As for the racist dispositions of Israelis, the vast majority have them. Moreover, their effects are currently far more overwhelming and devastating than those which you ascribe to America’s treatment of Natives.

  171. @Mikhailovich

    I am not a supporter of Netanyahu, but it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.

    Of course not. He’s fixated on Iran. In fact, he may have a case of palilalia with regard to the word, “Iran.”

    Crying “wolf,” again. Netanyahu is on record as early as 1992 claiming that Iran was “close” to having a nuke.

    Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning ~25 years ago.

  172. chris says:

    excellent video, Robin, thanks – the word “bovine” comes to mind.
    Who keeps the leash on these morons ? They can’t be let loose on their own; somewhere in the organization there must be a connection to the mother ship which filters their waywardness so it’s always in sync with the main message.

  173. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Wishful thinking. Israel can just nuke the Arabs when they get tired of kicking them around. Not that this will happen anytime soon.

    • Replies: @Anon
  174. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    My hunch is that the job will be done with genetically engineered, Arab-selective bacteriological weapons. Israel has researched these for decades. If the right technology was available, manufacturing a cover story would be the easy part..

    • Replies: @Alden
  175. iffen says:

    it is not he who shouted: “Assad must go”.

    Not really of major importance, any Jew will do when all you want to do is hate dem Jews.

    • Replies: @Mikhailovich
  176. @Sam Shama


    Yes — I even liked the music provided by “Pallywood.”

    I’ll share a true story on my January 1981 tour of the Middle East, including Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, and Israel, which upon return I wrote quite a comprehensive paper and received 3-undergraduate credits at University of Scranton.

    After my departure from coastal cities Haifa and Caesarea, I was provided with a Palestinian gentleman as tour guide. Riding in a Mercedes Benz, and along with an Ohio-born Byzantine Catholic priest, the Palestinian drove us to Jaffa, Nablus, and Bethlehem. Very learned and eager to talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the tour guide provided me with an alternative (non-Zionist) introduction to the steamy political situation.

    (Note Sam I keep photos of the Palestinian guide while at the Jaffa-based Franciscan Church of Peter at Nablus “Jacob’s Well,” and at the small door to Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity. Had I scan ability with my desktop, I’d do so and provide you with the pictures)

    At any rate, after spending two days in the Old City of Jerusalem, the tour guide drove the priest and I down the amazing highway leading to the Dead Sea. First stop Masada!

    We rode the lift to Masada peak, and besides the obvious ancient encampments, the first thing I saw was Israeli officers being “sworn in” beneath Israel’s flag. Watching this stirring event, the tour guide nudged me and said, “The Israeli’s do this as ritual & take a vow that there will never be another successful conqueror.” Quite impressive!

    Time passed as I walked around the site and after approximately four (4) anxious hours, I realized that the Palestinian guide was MISSING. Very weird, I felt like an ancient Roman soldier who searched Masada’s grounds to find only one “living” Zealot.

    Perhaps you might know, Sam Shama, the Masada site (at the time) was not very tourist friendly, like for example, the Civil War museum and refreshment perks available at Gettysburg. Frankly, I had to inquire around for a simple place to take a pee-pee.

    Late afternoon, I was approached by two men (plain clothes) who formally apologized for the inconvenience and informed me that the planned visit to Jericho had to be cancelled! Confused as shit, but tolerably understanding, I asked, “What happened to my tour guide… did he become ill?”

    “No. Your guide was arrested and taken back to Jerusalem.”

    “Arrested? Uh, what did he do? He did such a good job!”

    “Never you mind, the guide made trouble. So just follow us and we’ll take you back to the Mount Scopus Hotel. A new tour guide will be assigned to take you to West Jerusalem tomorrow and you can visit our Dead Sea scroll museum.”

    W.T.F. ?

    Strange episode, eh, Sam Shama? And now here at Unz Review, a Byzantine Catholic and a Jew opines about Judawood and Pallywood.

    Wish you well and thanks for the talk.

    • Replies: @chris
  177. @anonymous

    “And, who needs the sympathy of hypocrites.”

    But you left out the bit about still needing the billions and the blood of the needlessly sacrificed youth.

  178. @Aaron Aarons

    I was under the impression that native Americans have the same right to one vote as other Americans do. Do I have that wrong?

  179. It’s true that Zionism is the same thing as 18-19th century European settler-colonialism in North America.

    The difference is that this is the 21th century now. Once upon a time, cannibalism was commonly practiced by humans, but we don’t do it anymore. Some things that were considered normal then, are completely unacceptable now. Slavery, for example. And settler-colonialism is one of these unacceptable things. The period of colonialism ended, somewhere in the mid-20th century. It’s unacceptable, end of story.

    • Replies: @iffen
  180. Junior says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    so, it is all true then. israel is not being used for anything like some are trying to go for that route.

    Wait, what happened? Who did what now? As usual… I’m confused 🙂

    Hey… wait a second… AstuteObservor 2 are you the poster previously known as AstuteConfusor 1? I KNEW IT! Well played, sir. Well played. 😉

    My mistake. I think I may have misconstrued Ji’s statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn’t for that reason. Looking back on it I THINK that Ji is saying that the US “elite” are using Israel, but I should clarify my position if Ji is because I believe the opposite. Israel is using the US “elite”, and the Global “elite” are using Israel. This macro vs. micro view of the distinction between the Global and American “elite” is one that is extremely important.

    The Central Bankster Global “elite” don’t care about Israel or the US or our “elite”. They use us ALL as pawns on their grand chessboard. They already control the world by controlling the global money supply but at this point all they care about is consolidating their power. Their endgame for all the chaos they’ve been causing is Global Governance. That’s all that One World Government is, a consolidation of power. I believe that Israel is going to be used to set off WW3. The Global “elite” don’t even live in Israel. They are headquartered in Switzerland where there are nice big alp mountains to hide themselves and their plunder under when the proverbial shit hits the fan.

    With all that being said of my THEORY about them hiding in the Alps and that Israel will be used as the spark for WW3, the FACT remains that Zionism is strangling this country. I believe that breaking the chain that Israel holds over the US should be the immediate priority due to the lives being lost in these wars for Israel. The next step, freeing our chains from the Central Banks… if there’s still time and that is even possible at this point.

    It seems that in my misunderstanding of Ji, I’ve in turn been misunderstood. Hope that I’ve clarified my self-muddied position. 🙂

    Oh, lawd, please don’t let me be misunderstood

  181. chris says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Interesting story, Chuck. Sounds just like a story from the Soviet Union !

    Did you try to find out what happened to your guide? Might not have cost you too much, but it would sure have helped your guide.

  182. @Junior

    I think I may have misconstrued Ji’s statement to mean that Zionist power may be on the decline in the US, like the Teamsters, and posted recent proof that it isn’t for that reason.

    The point I was trying to make is that having a powerful organization (i.e. the Teamsters) is no guarantee that the establishment is going to kiss your ass. If you’re useful to them, they’ll glorify you anyway (a with the afghan mujahideen in the 1980s), and if you’re a threat to them, they’ll destroy you no matter how powerful your lobby is (as with the trade unions).

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  183. iffen says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    Mid 20th century would be about 1950. (I am not a math whiz.)

    the eventual acceptance of the Seventeen Point Agreement by the Government of Tibet under Chinese pressure in October 1951.[1] The Government of Tibet and Tibetan social structure remained in place in the TAR under the authority of China until the 1959 Tibetan uprising, when the Dalai Lama fled into exile and after which the Government of Tibet was dissolved.

    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji
  184. @iffen

    I am aware that you’re unable to distinguish between a province (Tibet) and a settler-colonial entity (Israel).

    I’m not sure if you’re genuinely unable to make this distinction, or you’re just following your hasbara manual. In any case, there’s nothing I can do for you.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @iffen
  185. @geokat62

    Israel more or less neutral as far as I can see, while US with the enthusiastic support of all other NATO countries, massacres Arabs every day in the last quarter of century. When they don’t bomb them – they kill them by sanctions.
    If The West wanted peace – they would have it long time ago.
    And this rabid Russo-phobia? Where it comes from? Israel? Israel doesn’t even participate in anti-Russian sanctions.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  186. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    Tibet is not a province of China and jawboning that truth won’t make one bit of a difference. All Tibetans, foremost the Dalai Lama would laugh at your nonsense; many including the DL fled to Dharamsala, India, to escape Chinese ethnic cleansing. Han Chinese have flooded the country since the 1950’s.

    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji
  187. geokat62 says:

    Israel more or less neutral as far as I can see, while US with the enthusiastic support of all other NATO countries, massacres Arabs every day in the last quarter of century. When they don’t bomb them – they kill them by sanctions.

    On whose behalf is the US massacring Arabs every day in the last quarter century?

    Have you read Mearsheimer and Walt’s The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy?

    Here’s the 60-page essay version

    Take a quick read and let us know whether you still think “Israel [is] more or less neutral as far as I can see.”

    • Replies: @Mikhailovich
  188. iffen says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    I am so good that I no longer have to follow the manual. I have been given the okay to wing-it.

    I’m not sure if you’re genuinely unable to understand that what makes an entity a province or not is what the one doing the provincing decides. I say to-ma-to; you say to-mah-to. Han say province; Tibetans say country.

    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji
  189. @iffen

    Lot of money and efforts invested in the hatred. And that is not only about Jews. The strategy of the Elites of the West is to divide the people and make them hate each other, so they would be able to manipulate all of them and make meanwhile even more money.

    • Replies: @iffen
  190. @Anon

    You have the right to an opinion, and to worship the guy known as the ‘Dalai Lama’, as you wish. You do not, however, have the right to your own facts. Tibet is a province of China.

    • Replies: @Anon
  191. @iffen

    Tibetans say country

    I presume you are talking about ethnic Tibetans? Are you the officially appointed spokesman for each one of them? If so, please upload your credentials.

    Anyway, since Tibet is both de facto and de jure a province of China, your (impressive) effort of simultaneously reading the minds of 7 million people doesn’t really matter.

    • Replies: @iffen
  192. iffen says:

    Elites of the West is to divide the people and make them hate each other, so they would be able to manipulate all of them and make meanwhile even more money.

    And they are very, very good at it and have been for centuries. Some say that they can never be defeated.

  193. iffen says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    Tibet is both de facto and de jure a province of China

    So, you were playing coy, you do know where provinces come from.

    You are also not the only one who knows where political power comes from.

    the officially appointed spokesman for each one of them

    No dawg in that fight, just observing.

  194. @chris

    “Sounds like a story from the Soviet Union.”

    I am very pleased you responded to my story, Chris, and thank you.

    Frankly, I did not try and determine what happened to the Palestinian guide. My explanation may sound like a “cop out,” but I will tell you why.

    At age 24, while a Teamster dock worker at Roadway Express, Tannersville, PA, & during breaks and lunch time, I read the New York Times. Subsequently, I became aware about the tense and dangerous political situation involving Jews and Palestinians. So prior to my departure for the Middle East, I learned about the fate of the great Melkite Archbishop, Hilarion Capucci, who in 1974, was charged with smuggling weapons to Palestinians and arrested by the Israelis. (Note, last week, Archbishop Capucci passed away at age 94) Please look at N.Y. Times obituary, below?

    Safe inside the Mount Scopus Hotel, Jerusalem, age 29, the next morning (1/1981) I admit to being guilty of a “sin of omission” and did nothing to learn about what happened to the Palestinian guide.

    At approximately 10 am, the Byzantine Catholic priest and I were driven to the Dead Sea Scroll museum located in West Jerusalem. I’ll never forget walking toward the museum and being approached by two (2) young Israeli soldiers.

    Weirdly, without even saying “hello,” the two seized me took by the arms, and posed while an unknown person took a picture. Soon as the picture was taken, I asked the Byzantine Catholic priest to also take a snap shot of the three of us and he obliged. (NOTE: Later I’ll try to get a cell phone picture that will display the arrested Palestinian tour guide and in addition, the peculiar picture of me with the two Israeli soldiers, nearby the Dead Sea scroll museum)

    To conclude, Chris, while in Jerusalem, the American hostages were released by Iran. Months later, President Anwar Satat was assassinated! My memories from time spent in the Middle East are FRESH. This past Christmas Eve 2016, I attended services at St. Joseph’s Melkite Church, Cabrini Avenue, with friend Lindy Morelli, a Carmelite Nun/Coordinator of Lighthouse. Lindy is blind since birth. So you know, Lindy Morelli shares my concerns for Palestinians and all others who are “put upon” and as you please, her web site is available.

    Post scriptum: Not to try and exaggerate this experience, but I am hoping either iffen or Sam Shama chimes in here. I like when people freely speak their minds on the U.S./Israel “special” relationship because time is running out for such luxury)

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @chris
  195. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    I am secure in understanding, not owning, the facts. You cook the bs foo-yong.

    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji
  196. “Obama’s Betrayal of Israel at the U.N. Must Not Stand”

    Hard to ague with this sentiment… our leaders in Washington are so busy betraying America we simply cannot burden them with having to sell out another nation.

  197. @chris


    Attached below are “Brownie automatic” photos (1-page) which correspond to my January 1981 journey to the Middle East and comment # 187.


    Top left is a camel & me in front of Great Pyramid, Giza.

    Top right is Masada & Dead Sea in background.

    Bottom left is Palestinian tour guide at Nablus.

    Bottom right is the tour guide at Capernaum.

    The final pic displays the 2-Israeli soldiers (and me) nearby West Jerusalem-based Dead Sea Scroll Museum museum. To reiterate, the 2-soldiers just took me by the arm and someone unknown took the snapshot. The available one — taken by companion, a Byzantine Catholic priest — shows me less befuddled and smiling!


  198. @Mao Cheng Ji

    hell, teamsters and trade unions had to go before jobs/manufacturing can be outsourced. there was no chance they stand a chance if it affected the bottom-line.

  199. @Junior

    hahaha 😛 my theory is that the global “elite” is no different than the us “elite” or the jewish “elite”. they are interchangeable. especially the us/jewish “elite”. all three are just factions of the same “elite” group? that has to be it. they are all getting something out of it. jewish “elites” are the ones with the most obvious perk, they are given free reign when it comes to land grabbing, in 2017 no less 🙂 it is too visible and catching alot of flak.

    fyi, I think my previous comment actually goes rather well with your last comment 🙂 you were saying jewish power is as powerful as ever, while I supported that notion 🙂 2 negatives makes a positive! 😛

  200. @Anon

    Good, thanks for clarification, Anon. Your understating is obviously your own business, entirely. As long as it’s your personal understanding, I have no problem with “Tibet is not a province of China” or “the moon is made of cheese”, or any other statement you may come up with. Keep ’em coming, by all means. Cheers.

  201. Alden says:

    I’m pretty sure Jesus boils in hot human manure, not semen.
    What’s interesting is that the Talmud relates the same story as the NT. Mary was not married; his father was a manual laborer, the lowest of the low, lower than a beggar or criminal in Jewish eyes.

    Mary could not support Jesus and sold him as a slave to an Egyptian circus where trained as a magician. Having served his 30 years of slavery he came back to Judea abd used his magician tricks to convert the gullible proles and peasants to his heresy.

    Change Mary and Joseph to a respectable couple, send them to Egypt with their newborn for an undetermined period of time, Jesus suddenly appears as an adult preaching heresy, and the stories are similar in the important parts.

  202. iffen says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    but I am hoping either iffen

    Perhaps you were suspected of being a secret Jew-hater, they were afraid that the Palestinian was passing along more material for Jew-hating and took him out. Your photo, of course, was for the suspected Jew-hater roster, in case you came back.

    Pure speculation on my part, Chuck.

    • Replies: @Anon
  203. Art says:
    @Aaron Aarons

    a disproportionate contribution to the inventions that whites generously bestowed upon the ghosts of those they exterminated was made by Jews

    Gee – what inventions were those?

    One of your tribe just claimed the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are Jew documents.

    Perhaps you can add to that also?

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Jew did contribute to WESTERN science. There is no Jew science – right!

  204. chris says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Thanks a lot, Chuck !

    I really appreciate your telling me the rest of your story. Yeah, those are difficult decisions to make at a certain age and in certain times and it is not clear you really could have helped your guide through your inquiry. Back in 1981 they were probably still playing be the Marquis of Queensbury rules compared to what they’re doing nowadays.

    Regarding the pictures you posted, I wasn’t able to see them because I think the links you provided are local to your computer. I tried to search on google images but the pictures you described were not among what came up.

    Very interesting story of Archbishop Capucci!
    I don’t think a priest should be involved with smuggling weapons, but the story of his escapades illustrates how different the times were back then. It was still a struggle of equals. Today Israel is more like Rome was in the times of Jesus, an overwhelming force, void of any sense of justice.

    Take care, Chris

    • Replies: @chris
    , @Chuck Orloski
  205. @geokat62

    On whose behalf? American Military-industrial complex made a lot of money. Oil corporations, American and UK, they also got very good deals in Iraq. Some of those money went to American politicians of course – without them nothing would happen. I tell you who is looser – all human kind, ordinary people, first of all Arabs, but also Americans, Israelites and all the rest.

  206. chris says:

    Correction: “Today Israel is more like Rome was in the times of Jesus” – sorry this is noting like the truth.

    I think only South Africa in the 1970s is analogous, and even that was probably a lot milder !

  207. @chris

    “Regarding the pictures you posted…”

    Chris, I appreciated your cross-time/space insight, “Today Israel is more like Rome was in Jesus’s time.”

    In addition, I tried to transfer the pics using, and below (hopefully!) you can view them.

    View post on

    Most important are the two pics which depict my Palestinian tour guide. The bottom photo includes me and the two Israeli soldiers nearby the Dead Sea Scroll museum. For the sake of verification, I hope the pics appear!

    I totally agree with you that priests should not get involved with weapon smuggling. As you know, Chris, deceptive “Set Ups” (Framing) happened both in the past and to this very date. (Having read John Le Carre’s novel, “The Little Drummer Girl,” I can not ignore the possibility of weapons being planted in the Archbishop’s car)

    P.S.: Initially, I considered making a response to “iffen” @ comment 214. He proposed that my forced-photo with Israeli soldiers was added to the “Jew-hater” list, just in case I happened to make return to Jerusalem. “iffen’s” guess is as good as mine and I let it be… knowing full that the Parousia might happen quicker than I could possibly make a return to the Holy Land. .

    • Replies: @chris
  208. Alden says:

    The Israelis need the bloodthirsty Arabs as an enemy. The entire point of Israel is to live off the tax empt donations of the American Jews and the goyishe kopf American taxpayer.

    Without the bloodthirsty Arabs threatening God’s chosen the need to give and give and give to Israel would stop.

    And they might have to go to work at something other than fundraising.

  209. Quislings in Congress and the Media need to decide which comes first

    What comes first are their smelly arses. They know what happens when they defy the well funded terrorist mafiosi.

    From a good article on how the Zionists are not only terrorists, but anti-Semites. They stop at nothing.

    The historical record makes plain what should already have been obvious from the present reality—that Israel’s and Zionism’s pretenses regarding Jews and Judaism, and in particular its pretense of being a response to anti-Semitism and Jewish persecution, is a fraud. Indeed quite the opposite, it thrives by exacerbating and capitalizing on these, and has turned them into a cynical, deadly business.

    -Tom Suarez,Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won

  210. So it is not complete backgroud until a thoroughly examination over a big cause of 911, completed.

    Dont belittle it.

  211. chris says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Those are excellent pictures Chuck, thanks !

    Yeah, those were times back then, the Grateful Dead had had a concert in Egypt in front of the pyramids in 1978 (3 years before your visit); anything like that is inconceivable today.

    And a great deal of the change for the worse was orchestrated by our “bestes ally” over there through the strings they pull in the western world. Gone is the statesmanship veneer of their leaders from back then, today they are fraught in a mix of paranoia and triumphalism, lead by a troglodytic, knuckle-headed moron; this is not how you pave the way to years of peace but exactly how you fall off the cliff.

    “Yahoo” is no Moses, they will end up learning the lessons of the old testament the hard way, all over again.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  212. [Using all caps in comments is shouting. Stop shouting or all your future comments may get trashed.]

  213. @chris


    During my stay at Jolie Ville Hotel in Giza, during evenings, I walked lonely streets, looking for something to do. At the time, I noted no women were around and upon my return to the States, a friend, Hossam el’Bassiouni, told me Islamic tradition forbade a man’s simply meeting with an Egyptian girl and going on a simple date. One had to first meet with the girl’s Muslim family, eat dinner, and sing traditional songs until a comfort level was reached when a couple could go out together alone.

    As you noted, and my knowing that “The Dead” played close to the Great Pyramid and Sphinx, I was hard pressed to imagine an Islamic audience getting down and wild to Grateful Dead’s cool version of “Good Loving.” Inside a taxi cab ride on a Cairo street, the driver’s radio played songs and he sang along with the voice described as “Egypt’s Elvis Presley.” Also, I noticed a very cool “Grateful Dead” poster for sale and I regret having not stopped and making purchase. Below is a “link” to an article on the intriguing Dead album “Blues for Allah.”

    I totally agree with you, Chris. “Inconceivable” that popular (& industry approved) American musicians would play anywhere in the Middle East except for Tel Aviv of course. Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.

    Re; I consider your final sentence prophetic, “… (Zionists) they will end up learning the lessons of the Old Testament the hard way, all over again.” Even casual American news readers can detect how much world wide anger there is for Israel’s never ending apartheid government, which just a couple months ago got a 10-year $38 billion gift from Netanyahu’s pretend nemesis, the Obama administration.

    Like you (perhaps), I do believe evil governments get a “free ride” for too long periods of time, but one can merely look at the outspoken & angry comments simmering at P. Giraldi’s present article. Master Zionist political-planners know and expect levels of population resentment! Grave danger is that they have President Donald Trump’s mighty military arsenal at their back and I have a sense that a “Superpower” Middle East solution, advantageous to Greater Israel territorial design, will be soon underway.

    Post scriptum: I follow with interest how our USrael government is gradually legalizing weed. That’s good but I have a little foreboding! While riding in the Cairo taxi, I asked my friendly driver, “How is it that everywhere I look, there’s men on curbs playing backgammon and taking hits on hashish bongs? Why don’t they get busted by Egyptian cops?’

    “Ha-ha! Situation much different here. Egyptian people can possess and smoke just about all the hashish they desire! President Sadat government like it that way when majority jobless citizens are STONED so that they do not take to streets and riot! Everybody happy to some political degree… Ha-ha.”

    “Oh, I see, sir, thanks for the insight.” I distinctly recall how the cab driver rolled the word, riot, “ryye-yat.”

    Less than a year (?) after my return from the Middle East, and post-Sadat assassination, a terrorist mass shooting of tourists at Luxor’s cross Nile River (west bank) occurred at the Valley of the Queens. Right now, Chris, I am looking at my picture of the Temple of Queen Hatshepsut including an Egyptian tour guide (wearing a cabbie cap) and his looking straight into the lens of my “Brownie” automatic camera. The photo is modern of course but his gaze is ancient.

    Thank you!

    • Replies: @chris
  214. Junior says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Hey, I was just going through a couple videos on Youtube and came across the news that Obama is boiling mad at a certain someone. Thought you’d get a kick out of it. 🙂

    • Replies: @RobinG
  215. chris says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Thanks again for your great reply, Chuck !

    Master Zionist political-planners know and expect levels of population resentment! Grave danger is that they have President Donald Trump’s mighty military arsenal at their back and I have a sense that a “Superpower” Middle East solution, advantageous to Greater Israel territorial design, will be soon underway.

    I certainly understand your apprehension, but the thing about Trump is that he can’t easily be bribed, he hates to loose, and he doesn’t like to be told what to do.

    He won’t roll over like those cowards, Bush and Obama; and Yahoo knows this ! A new Gaza offensive, mass expulsions, or incursion into Lebanon or Sinai, which is what is probably being planned in Tel Aviv, won’t go smoothly with president Trump. The way I look at it, is that a bull might do a lot of good in a very kitschy china shop.

    I know it’s not much of a hand for us but they’re the only cards we’ve got!

    PS Thanks a lot for the link to “Blues for Allah.” “One from the Vault” is my favorite Dead album !

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  216. RobinG says:

    Thanks for the link, Junior! Gotta love this guy:

    “Why do you think Ambassador Christopher Stephens was left to die? Because he was a witness to Hillary Clinton’s crimes of gun-running and supporting ISIS…..end of story.”

    If only the “Benghazi, Benghazi” relatives of the dead would catch on to the underlying story. It’s not too late. Hilligula (along with the O’Bombster) should be indicted for the felony of providing aid to terrorists.

    • Replies: @Junior
  217. @Kek

    Yes, Jews (and others) who support or excuse Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians are worse racists than are the majority of white gentiles. As for “their own tribe’s tendencies toward malignant narcissism”, it’s not as concrete, but it is certainly real, although the “malignant” part, if you mean active hostility to “goyim”, was and is quite variable among ethnic Jews, as is such hostility towards non-whites among white gentiles.

    Incidentally, at least during the first few decades of Israel’s existence, white (Ashkenazi) Israeli treatment of Arab Jews, especially those from North Africa and Yemen, was easily as bad as the treatment of Blacks in the U.S. South during the same period, even if they were allowed to vote and to participate in the oppression of Palestinians.

  218. @chris


    Looks like this thread to P.G.’s article is petering out. Will look to converse with you again soon.

    One last thing about “The Grateful Dead.” Annually, the Scranton, PA area hosts “The Peach Festival” at the Toyota Pavilion located atop Montage Mountain, during month of August. Thousands of “Dead” fans attend and love to watch the tribute band “Dark Star” perform.

    I am a life long Allman Brothers Band fan and this year I was disappointed when Gregg Allman was hospitalized and could not perform. However, a terrific drummer, (Joe Rizzo?), from the band “Almost Dead” played a non-vocal jazz set, along with the very cool bassist Ottile and a keyboard player. In addition, guitarist Chris Robinson took the stage!

    I will try and tune in to “One From The Vault” which I have not listened to in many years. I really prefer “Grateful Dead” Live and I consider Jerry Garcia’s vocals as irreplaceable.

    Thank you. (F.Y.I., Be on look out for wiles performed by Trump appointee Cotton (from Arkansas) who for years has sucked upon the teat of Israel. The Mainstream Media has the U.S. population magnetized to Putin’s subversive election action and excludes Netanyahu’s subversion which is right-in-front of their noses.

    • Replies: @Junior
  219. Anonymous [AKA "cat thunder"] says:

    I’ve been reading people like Philip G for over 15 years now. Things have only gotten worse it seems. All the exposure of these criminals has done little. I’m weary and tired. It seems pointless to keep trying.

  220. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Iffen…. Remember the title “America or Israel

    Why so many Jew haters?

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    , @geokat62
  221. @Anon

    Thank you very much, anon. I thought “iffen’s” slam against me as a “Jew Hater” was to become left unchallenged on the comment thread, and I’d be lost in Strait of Hormuz waters.

    Maybe “iffen” will view the valuable “link’ you have provided, consider & learn to respect the reality for how things are

    I recall how Bernard Shaw’s admittedly “propagandist” prefaces and Plays spelled out the author’s desire for people to always consider the “degree provocation” that lay beneath both HATE and LOVE.

    Besides, on this very day, the U.S. military has announced having fired upon Iranian vessel(s) due to what appears to be a very shallow “provocation” — a scary event which will be welcomed by both the Israeli government and incoming Trump administration.

    Thanks again, anon. I intuit “iffen” will need Sam Shama’s higher level (strained) ideological reinforcement… and in meantime I go back to driving school bus.

  222. Junior says:

    Hey, Robin!

    I agree that they say SOME great things on that Next News Network(NNN) but when it comes to the topic of Israel, all you get is obfuscation and lies from the NNN(Netenyahu News Network). If anything, I believe that Mr. Giraldi needs to be wary that they are trying to co-opt him into their false narrative that he is being critical of Obama for criticizing Israel instead of him being critical of Obama for not criticizing Israel ENOUGH.

    Here is another clip from the Netenyahu News Network where they refer to the UN resolution as “screwing Israel”. Zionist Propaganda posing as Alternative Media. Be wary of them.

  223. A better question to ask is when will the majority of US voters and the US 2-party system and the US mafia media stop emulating and promoting Israel’s victim cult supremacy politics?

    The answer is never.

    It will take a major revolution to return the US to a constitutionally limited federal government that respects the power of the people and respects the autonomy of their state governments.

  224. Junior says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    I consider Jerry Garcia’s vocals as irreplaceable


    Amen to that! Truer words have never been spoken! Poppa Bear will never be forgotten! W.A.L.S.T.I.B.!

    Unlike The Rolling Stones, I do not believe the Grateful Dead launched their career with the vital help of Jewish managers.

    You are forgetting one of the most important concert promoters that the Dead had, Bill Graham. Here is an interesting article that I found about the many Jewish connections that the Dead had.

    The group’s 1975 album, “Blues for Allah,” was intended as a eulogy to Saudi Arabia’s peace-minded King Faisal, who fell victim to an assassin’s bullet. Hunter claimed that King Faisal was a fan of The Grateful Dead. The album includes an instrumental song, “King Solomon’s Marbles,” and the original LP featured the printed lyrics of the title track in four languages: English, Arabic, Persian and Hebrew.

    Also in regards to the Dead never having vital “help” from Jewish managers, I’d like to point out the fact that the song “He’s Gone” is about Jewish member of the Dead Mikey Hart’s Jewish father, Lenny Hart, who managed the Dead and ended up embezzling close to a million 2017 dollars from them. “Help”, indeed.

    Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb, you know better but I know him.
    Like I told you, what I said, Steal your face right off your head.

    • Replies: @Junior
    , @Chuck Orloski
  225. Junior says:

    I HATE that the clip I posted above of my favorite Dead song is cut, but LOVE that there is video of this first performance ever of “He’s Gone”.

    Nothin’ left to do but 🙂 🙂 🙂

    • Replies: @Junior
  226. Junior says:

    Nothin’ left to do but 🙂 🙂 🙂 …

    To keep from cryin’. 🙂

  227. @Junior


    Thanks for the convincing correction on my assertion that “The Dead” launched to fortune and fame minus Jewish help. And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician! Please do not tell me Neil had Vatican Bank connections???

    Seriously, it’s good that you’re around to catch my mistake and kindly point it out here @ Unz Review, and I thank you catching the error.

    Based upon your information that the song “He’s Gone is about Jewish member of The Dead Mikey Hart’s (Jewish) father Lenny Hart,” I wonder if Lenny did any jail time for the sizable embezzlement? Did they put him away, Junior?

    Also regarding King Faisal’s status as a peaceful “Deadhead,” I see that your quotation refers to the name “Hunter.” Is that a reference to the-late Hunter S. Thompson who rode with The Hell’s Angels and (much prior to the 9-11 attacks) ruminated on the Death of The American Dream?

    Again, thank you.

    • Replies: @Junior
    , @Junior
  228. geokat62 says:

    Here’s the transcript of that audio recording:

    Straight Talk About Zionism: What Jewish Nationalism Means

    By Mark Weber
    April 14, 2009


    It’s important to understand Zionism, not just because it’s an influential ideology and a powerful social-political movement, but also because there’s a lot of ignorance, confusion and deliberate misinformation about it.

    If you look up the word “Zionism” in a standard American dictionary, what you’ll find is likely to be inaccurate, or least misleading. For example, a popular and supposedly authoritative American dictionary in my office defines Zionism as “A movement formerly for reestablishing, now for supporting, the Jewish national state of Israel.” / 1 This definition, which is typical of American reference works, is more than just misleading. It’s deceitful.

    The founder of the modern Zionist movement was a Jewish writer named Theodor Herzl. In the 1890s he was living in Paris, where he was a journalist for a major newspaper in Vienna. He was deeply troubled by the widespread anti-Semitism, or anti-Jewish sentiment, in France at the time. He thought a lot about the pattern of tension, distrust and conflict between Jews and non-Jews that had persisted through the centuries, and he hit upon what he believed is a solution to this age-old problem.

    Herzl laid out his views in a book, written in German, entitled The Jewish State (Der Judenstaat). Published in 1896, this work is the manifesto or basic document of the Zionist movement. A year and a half later, Herzl convened the first international Zionist conference. Fifty one years later, when the “State of Israel” was solemnly proclaimed at a meeting in Tel Aviv, above the speakers’ podium at the conference was, appropriately, a large portrait of Herzl.

    In his book Herzl explained that regardless of where they live, or their citizenship, Jews constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people. He used the German word, Volk. Wherever large numbers of Jews live among non-Jews, he said, conflict is not only likely, it’s inevitable. He wrote: “The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers. Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving Jews … I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear.” / 2

    In his public and private writings, Herzl explained that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but rather a natural response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes. Anti-Jewish sentiment, he said, is not due to ignorance or bigotry, as so many have claimed. Instead, he concluded, the ancient and seemingly intractable conflict between Jews and non-Jews is entirely understandable, because Jews are a distinct and separate people, with interests that are different from, and which often conflict with, the interests of the people among whom they live.

    A prime source of modern anti-Jewish sentiment, Herzl believed, was that the so-called “emancipation” of Jews in the 18th and 19th centuries from the confined life of the ghetto into modern urban society brought them into direct economic competition with non-Jews in the middle classes. Anti-Semitism, Herzl wrote, is “an understandable reaction to Jewish defects.” In his diary he wrote: “I find the anti-Semites are fully within their rights.” / 3

    Herzl maintained that Jews must stop pretending — both to themselves and to non-Jews — that they are like everyone else, and instead must frankly acknowledge that they are a distinct and separate people, with distinct and separate goals and interests. The only workable long-term solution, he said, is for Jews to recognize reality and live, finally, as a “normal” people in a separate state of their own. In a memo to the Tsar of Russia, Herzl wrote that Zionism is the “final solution of the Jewish question.” / 4

    Over the years many other Jewish leaders have affirmed Herzl’s outlook. Louis Brandeis, a US Supreme Court justice and a leading American Zionist, said: “Let us all recognize that we Jews are a distinctive nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.” / 5

    Stephen S. Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and of the World Jewish Congress, told a rally in New York in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith. I am a Jew … Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race.” / 6

    Israel’s first president, Chaim Weizmann, wrote in his memoirs: “Whenever the quantity of Jews in any country reaches the saturation point, that country reacts against them … [This] reaction … cannot be looked upon as anti-Semitism in the ordinary or vulgar sense of that word; it is a universal social and economic concomitant of Jewish immigration, and we cannot shake it off.” / 7

    In keeping with the Zionist worldview, Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon told a meeting of American Jews in Jerusalem in July 2004 that all Jews around the world should relocate to Israel as soon as possible. And because anti-Semitism was especially widespread in France, he added, Jews in that country should immediately move to Israel. French officials quickly, and predictably, responded by rejecting Sharon’s remarks as “unacceptable.” / 8

    But imagine if the leaders of France, the United States, and other countries were to respond to those remarks by Sharon, and similar ones by other Zionists, by expressing agreement. Imagine if an American president were to respond by saying: “You’re right, Mr. Sharon. We agree with you. We agree that Jews do not belong in the United States. In fact, we are ready to show our support for what you say by doing everything we can to promote and encourage all Jews to leave our country and move to Israel.”

    That would be the logical and honest attitude of non-Jewish political leaders who say that they support Israel and Zionism. But the political leaders of the United States, France, Britain, and other such countries today are neither honest nor consistent.

    During the 1930s, one European government that was honest and consistent in its attitude on this issue was the government of Third Reich Germany. Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared similar views about how best to handle what Herzl called “the Jewish question.” They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in Europe, but rather in the so-called “Jewish homeland” in Palestine.

    On the basis of their shared views, Germans and Jews worked together for what each community believed was in its own best national interest. The Hitler government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until 1940-41, when the Second World War prevented further extensive collaboration. / 9

    (During the war years attitudes hardened, and policy shifted drastically. The German policy of collaboration with Zionists and support for Jewish emigration to Palestine gave way to a harsh “final solution” policy.)

    During the 1930s, the central SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, repeatedly proclaimed its support for Zionism. An article published in 1935, for example, told readers: / 10

    “The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the world, and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis, Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.”

    In late 1933, a leading German shipping line began direct passenger service from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, providing “strictly kosher food” on board.

    In September 1935, the German government enacted the “Nuremberg Laws,” which prohibited marriages and sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the country’s Jews an alien minority group. / 11 A few days after the Nuremberg Laws were enacted, the main German Zionist newspaper, the Jüdische Rundschau, editorially welcomed the new measures. It explained to readers: / 12

    “Germany … is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own theater, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all aspects of national life …”

    During the 1930s, Zionist groups, working together with Third Reich authorities, organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.

    The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the Ha’avara — Hebrew for “transfer” — was concluded in August 1933 following talks between German officials and an official of the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. / 13

    Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine through the Ha’avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten percent of Germany’s 1933 Jewish population. Some Ha’avara emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: “Many of these people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories — indeed rough replicas of their very existence.” / 14

    The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact, Hitler’s Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support the Zionist movement and Jewish development in Palestine.

    The essence of Zionism, or Jewish nationalism, is that Jews everywhere — regardless of where they live, regardless of their religious outlook, and regardless of their citizenship — are members of the Jewish “people” or “nation,” to whom all Jews owe a primary loyalty and allegiance.

    The overwhelming majority of Jews in the United States today identify with and support Israel, and are affiliated with Zionist groups and organizations. Every significant Jewish group or association in the United States, and every prominent Jewish American political or community leader supports Israel and Zionism, in most cases fervently so. With very few exceptions, even American Jews who are critical of some of Israel’s more embarrassing policies nonetheless express support for Israel and the nationalist ideology upon which the Zionist state is based.

    A Zionist Jew, by definition, owes his primary loyalty to the Jewish community and to Israel. Zionism is not compatible with patriotism to any country or entity other than Israel and the world Jewish community. That’s why it’s difficult to accept as sincere or honest the pious assurances of Jewish leaders in the United States that American Jews are just as loyal to the US as everyone else.

    In the United States, nearly every prominent political leader — Jewish and non-Jewish, Democrat and Republican — ardently supports Israel and the Jewish nationalist ideology upon which it is based. In Washington, political leaders of both major parties insist on US support for Israel as an ethnically Jewish state. They fervently support, and eagerly seek the favor of, influential Jewish-Zionist groups, such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

    Everyone — whether Jewish or non-Jewish — who claims to support Israel should, if he is honest and consistent, endorse the view of Israeli prime minister Sharon, and other Zionist leaders, and support the migration of Jews everywhere to Israel. But of course that’s not what happens.

    With regard to Zionism and Israel, the attitude and policies of nearly all American political leaders, Jewish and non-Jewish, is characterized by hypocrisy and deceit. To put it another way, Zionist Jews and their non-Jewish supporters embrace a blatant double standard. Jewish-Zionist organizations, along with their non-Jewish allies, support one social-political ideology for Israel and the world Jewish community, and a completely different one for the United States and other non-Jewish countries. They insist that ethnic nationalism is evil and bad for non-Jews, while at the same time they vigorously support ethnic nationalism — that is, Zionism — for Jews.

    They insist that Israel is and must be a Jewish nationalist state, with a privileged status for its Jewish population, including immigration laws that discriminate against non-Jews. At the same time, Jewish-Zionist groups and leaders, and the non-Jews who support them, insist that in the United States, Britain, France, Germany and other countries, there must be no privileged status for anyone based on race, ethnicity or religion.

    Our political leaders tell us that American Jews should be encouraged to think of themselves as a distinct national group with an identity and community interests separate from those of other Americans. At the same time American politicians insist that Zionist Jews be given all rights as full and equal US citizens. On the basis of this double standard, Jews are given a privileged status in American political and cultural life.

    Americans are led to believe that Zionism is a benign outlook of altruistic and righteous support for a so-called Jewish homeland. In fact, Zionism is an ideology and movement of ethnically-based Jewish nationalism that reinforces the identity and self-image of Jews as a distinct and separate community with interests different from those of non-Jews, and which strengthens the already powerful world Jewish community.

  229. Junior says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    I wonder if Lenny did any jail time for the sizable embezzlement?

    6 months.

    Is that a reference to the-late Hunter S. Thompson

    It’s a reference to their songwriter, Robert Hunter.

    Again, thank you.

    No doubt, Brudda! And my thanks to you for reminding me about just how much I love the Dead! I love the free flow of ideas from one topic to the next while staying ON topic of articles that occurs here at Unz.

    And also thanks for bringing up the topic of Dead connections to Judaism for examination! Not a topic that has ever crossed my mind because it makes no difference to me what religion a person is, only their actions and the content of their character matter to me, but an interesting topic to explore none the less. It gave me the chance to combine my two favorite topics, Politics and Music, in one post without forcing it. A rarity for me. 🙂

    And, iffen, sorry to set-up a joke and then knock it down myself but… no, my favorite topics aren’t Music loving and “Jew Hating”. 😉 However on the topics of Zionism-control-of-America Hating and Stevie Nicks Loving… as they say, the cap fits so I’m wearing it. 🙂

    I guess that I should also nip in the bud, the cap I wear is a Brooklyn Dodgers fitted cap and NO it isn’t made from tin-foil. Cotton. The touch… the feel… 🙂 My apologies to iffen, for pre-knocking down this joke set-up also. 😉

  230. Junior says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Hey also in relation to the Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead, and Hunter S. Thompson’s Hell’s Angels, in case you’ve never seen it, here’s a clip that ties them all together and I think you’ll get a kick out of that shows Jagger talking with Jerry while they’re waiting to take a helicopter ride over to the show at Altamont for which the Angels were “security”. Love his music but Jagger is being his usual attention-seeking asinine self in the video. And Jerry is being his usual calm-humble-coolest-down-to-earth-dude-ever self in the video while waiting for the helicopter. Gotta love Jerry at 1:49 of the video: “It won’t be long. Not long, now. We’ll get higher yet.” TOO funny! 🙂

    And here all along I considered Neil Diamond my favorite 1960s-era Jewish vocalist/musician!

    I probably went to about a dozen Dead shows but I gotta tell you that one of my favorite experiences at a show is Phish doing Cracklin’ Rosie live cuz there may not be a finer thing in the world than being in a crowd of thousands of like minded lunatics singing “Oh I love my Rosie child” and TRYING to sound like Neil but not really giving a DAMN what we sound like. Now that is what I call fun!

    Now, if only, I wish I could find a video that SORT OF ties in with the topic of this article and also ties in with the Dead but it HAS to use some of the FINEST Deadhead humor that I’ve ever seen… if only… 🙂

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  231. @Junior


    Below is Roger Waters singing “We shall overcome” for Palestinians with beautiful images. I understand Pete Seeger made the original song famous, but the actual writer is to date undetermined.

    If you have time, and need a good laugh, go to You Tube and look for Hunter S. Thompson’s crazy interview with Keith Richards. They talk about the “afterlife.”

    Thank you, I must leave now for my am school bus run.

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  232. Junior says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Right on! Roger Waters is definitely THE man! One of the few artists that is actually willing to stand up to the insanity. All these other artists just talk about raging against the machine, Waters is doing it.

    I’ll definitely check out that Richards & Thompson interview, but can’t now cuz also gotta get on the road to get car fixed before too late.

    Safe travels, Brudda!

  233. Junior says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Hey, Chuck!

    I was looking into whether Nirvana was a Tavistock Institute creation and whether the rise of Grunge music in the 90’s had a direct correlation to the rise in Heroin addiction at the same time(it does), and I came upon an interesting article about the Dead’s connections to Tavistock which I had not been aware of. I had heard theories about the Beatles and Stones being their creations but never heard this about the Dead. I feel that the author is misdirected in his Jesuit theme because their creator, Ignatius Loyola, was a Marrano so the author doesn’t go far enough into his identification process but an interesting read nonetheless.

    Hope all is well and that you get a chance to check it out. 🙂

  234. Z-man says:

    Bolton is the worst! Hooray Phil Giraldi!

  235. @Charlotte Allen

    I’m a terrible person, but I thought that Pancake Corrie is hilarious. I mean, some people are just itching to win the Darwin Awards. Effort should be rewarded!

  236. Z-man says:

    Israel is not an ally (no treaties signed) it is an albatross around our collective necks!
    Very apropos to put a picture of that Zionist boot licker boob Bolton at the top of the article.

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