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A Ukrainian serviceman walks in a fortified position at the front line with Russia-backed separatists not far away, in Avdiivka, Donetsk region, on April 5, 2021. Photo: AFP
A Ukrainian serviceman walks in a fortified position at the front line with Russia-backed separatists not far away, in Avdiivka, Donetsk region, on April 5, 2021. Photo: AFP

Ukraine and Russia may be on the brink of war – with dire consequences for the whole of Eurasia. Let’s cut to the chase, and plunge head-on into the fog of war.

On March 24, Ukrainian President Zelensky, for all practical purposes, signed a declaration of war against Russia, via decree No. 117/2021.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky speaks during a joint press conference with European Council President in Kiev on March 3, 2021. Photo: AFP / Sergey Dolzhenko
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky speaks during a joint press conference with European Council President in Kiev on March 3, 2021. Photo: AFP / Sergey Dolzhenko

The decree establishes that retaking Crimea from Russia is now Kiev’s official policy. That’s exactly what prompted an array of Ukrainian battle tanks to be shipped east on flatbed rail cars, following the saturation of the Ukrainian army by the US with military equipment including unmanned aerial vehicles, electronic warfare systems, anti-tank systems and man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS).

More crucially, the Zelensky decree is the proof any subsequent war will have been prompted by Kiev, debunking the proverbial claims of “Russian aggression.” Crimea, since the referendum of March 2014, is part of the Russian Federation.

It was this (italics mine) de facto declaration of war, which Moscow took very seriously, that prompted the deployment of extra Russian forces to Crimea and closer to the Russian border with Donbass. Significantly, these include the crack 76th Guards Air Assault Brigade, known as the Pskov paratroopers and, according to an intel report quoted to me, capable of taking Ukraine in only six hours.

It certainly does not help that in early April US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, fresh from his former position as a board member of missile manufacturer Raytheon, called Zelensky to promise “unwavering US support for Ukraine’s sovereignty.” That ties in with Moscow’s interpretation that Zelensky would never have signed his decree without a green light from Washington.

On March 8, 2021, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin speaks during observance of International Women’s Day in the East Room of the White House in Washington, DC. Photo: AFP / Mandel Ngan
On March 8, 2021, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin speaks during observance of International Women’s Day in the East Room of the White House in Washington, DC. Photo: AFP / Mandel Ngan

Controlling the narrative

Sevastopol, already when I visited in December 2018, is one of the most heavily defended places on the planet, impervious even to a NATO attack. In his decree, Zelensky specifically identifies Sevastopol as a prime target.

Once again, we’re back to 2014 post-Maidan unfinished business.

To contain Russia, the US deep state/NATO combo needs to control the Black Sea – which, for all practical purposes, is now a Russian lake. And to control the Black Sea, they need to “neutralize” Crimea.

If any extra proof was necessary, it was provided by Zelensky himself on Tuesday this week in a phone call with NATO secretary-general and docile puppet Jens Stoltenberg.

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg gives a press conference at the end of a NATO Foreign Ministers’ meeting at the Alliance’s headquarters in Brussels on March 24, 2021. Photo: AFP / Olivier Hoslet
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg gives a press conference at the end of a NATO Foreign Ministers’ meeting at the Alliance’s headquarters in Brussels on March 24, 2021. Photo: AFP / Olivier Hoslet

Zelensky uttered the key phrase: “NATO is the only way to end the war in Donbass” – which means, in practice, NATO expanding its “presence” in the Black Sea. “Such a permanent presence should be a powerful deterrent to Russia, which continues the large-scale militarization of the region and hinders merchant shipping.”

All of these crucial developments are and will continue to be invisible to global public opinion when it comes to the predominant, hegemon-controlled narrative.

The deep state/NATO combo is imprinting 24/7 that whatever happens next is due to “Russian aggression.” Even if the Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF) launch a blitzkrieg against the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics. (To do so against Sevastopol in Crimea would be certified mass suicide).

In the United States, Ron Paul has been one of the very few voices to state the obvious: “According to the media branch of the US military-industrial-congressional-media complex, Russian troop movements are not a response to clear threats from a neighbor, but instead are just more ‘Russian aggression.’”

What’s implied is that Washington/Brussels don’t have a clear tactical, much less strategic game plan: only total narrative control.

And that is fueled by rabid Russophobia – masterfully deconstructed by the indispensable Andrei Martyanov, one of the world’s top military analysts.

A possibly hopeful sign is that on March 31, the chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, General Valery Gerasimov, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, talked on the phone about the proverbial “issues of mutual interest.”

Days later, a Franco-German statement came out, calling on “all parties” to de-escalate. Merkel and Macron seem to have gotten the message in their videoconference with Putin – who must have subtly alluded to the effect generated by Kalibrs, Kinzhals and assorted hypersonic weapons if the going gets tough and the Europeans sanction a Kiev blitzkrieg.

French President Emmanuel Macron speaks as German Chancellor Angela Merkel looks on after a German-French Security Council video conference at the Elysee Palace in Paris, on February 5, 2021. Photo: AFP / Thibault Camus
French President Emmanuel Macron speaks as German Chancellor Angela Merkel looks on after a German-French Security Council video conference at the Elysee Palace in Paris, on February 5, 2021. Photo: AFP / Thibault Camus

The problem is Merkel and Macron don’t control NATO. Yet Merkel and Macron at least are fully aware that if the US/NATO combo attacks Russian forces or Russian passport holders who live in Donbass, the devastating response will target the command centers that coordinated the attacks.

What does the hegemon want?

As part of his current Energizer bunny act, Zelensky made an extra eyebrow-raising move. This past Monday, he visited Qatar with a lofty delegation and clinched a raft of deals, not circumscribed to LNG but also including direct Kiev-Doha flights; Doha leasing or buying a Black Sea port; and strong “defense/military ties” – which could be a lovely euphemism for a possible transfer of jihadis from Libya and Syria to fight Russian infidels in Donbass.

Right on cue, Zelensly meets Turkey’s Erdogan next Monday. Erdogan’s intel services run the jihadi proxies in Idlib, and dodgy Qatari funds are still part of the picture. Arguably, the Turks are already transferring those “moderate rebels” to Ukraine. Russian intel is meticulously monitoring all this activity.

A series of informed discussions – see, for instance, here and here – is converging on what may be the top three targets for the hegemon amid all this mess, short of war: to provoke an irreparable fissure between Russia and the EU, under NATO auspices; to crash the Nord Steam 2 pipeline; and to boost profits in the weapons business for the military-industral complex.

So the key question then is whether Moscow would be able to apply a Sun Tzu move short of being lured into a hot war in the Donbass.

ORDER IT NOW

On the ground, the outlook is grim. Denis Pushilin, one of the top leaders of the Lugansk and Donetsk people’s republics, has stated that the chances of avoiding war are “extremely small.” Serbian sniper Dejan Beric – whom I met in Donetsk in 2015 and who is a certified expert on the ground – expects a Kiev attack in early May.

The extremely controversial Igor Strelkov, who may be termed an exponent of “orthodox socialism,” a sharp critic of the Kremlin’s policies who is one of the very few warlords who survived after 2014, has unequivocally stated that the only chance for peace is for the Russian army to control Ukrainian territory at least up to the Dnieper river. He stresses that a war in April is “very likely”; for Russia war “now” is better than war later; and there’s a 99% possibility that Washington will not fight for Ukraine.

On this last item at least Strelkov has a point; Washington and NATO want a war fought to the last Ukrainian.

Rostislav Ischenko, the top Russian analyst of Ukraine whom I had the pleasure of meeting in Moscow in late 2018, persuasively argues that, “the overall diplomatic, military, political, financial and economic situation powerfully requires the Kiev authorities to intensify combat operations in Donbass.

“By the way,” Ischenko added, “the Americans do not give a damn whether Ukraine will hold out for any time or whether it will be blown to pieces in an instant. They believe they stand to gain from either outcome.”

Gotta defend Europe

Let’s assume the worst in Donbass. Kiev launches its blitzkrieg. Russian intel documents everything. Moscow instantly announces it is using the full authority conferred by the UNSC to enforce the Minsk 2 ceasefire.

In what would be a matter of 8 hours or a maximum 48 hours, Russian forces smash the whole blitzkrieg apparatus to smithereens and send the Ukrainians back to their sandbox, which is approximately 75km north of the established contact zone.

In the Black Sea, incidentally, there’s no contact zone. This means Russia may send out all its advanced subs plus the surface fleet anywhere around the “Russian lake”: They are already deployed anyway.

Russian President Vladimir Putin looks on as Novator Design Bureau director-general Farid Abdrakhmanov and Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko shake hands during a signing ceremony for government contracts in Alabino, Moscow region, Russia. on June 27, 2019. Photo: AFP / Alexei Druzhinin / Sputnik
Russian President Vladimir Putin looks on as Novator Design Bureau director-general Farid Abdrakhmanov and Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko shake hands during a signing ceremony for government contracts in Alabino, Moscow region, Russia. on June 27, 2019. Photo: AFP / Alexei Druzhinin / Sputnik

Once again Martyanov lays down the law when he predicts, referring to a group of Russian missiles developed by the Novator Design Bureau: “Crushing Ukies’ command and control system is a matter of few hours, be that near border or in the operational and strategic Uki depth. Basically speaking, the whole of the Ukrainian ‘navy’ is worth less than the salvo of 3M54 or 3M14 which will be required to sink it. I think couple of Tarantuls will be enough to finish it off in or near Odessa and then give Kiev, especially its government district, a taste of modern stand-off weapons.”

The absolutely key issue, which cannot be emphasized enough, is that Russia will not (italics mine) “invade” Ukraine. It doesn’t need to, and it doesn’t want to. What Moscow will do for sure is to support the Novorossiya people’s republics with equipment, intel, electronic warfare, control of airspace and special forces. Even a no-fly zone will not be necessary; the “message” will be clear that were a NATO fighter jet to show up near the frontline, it would be summarily shot down.

And that brings us to the open “secret” whispered only in informal dinners in Brussels, and chancelleries across Eurasia: NATO puppets do not have the balls to get into an open conflict with Russia.

One thing is to have yapping dogs like Poland, Romania, the Baltic gang and Ukraine amplified by corporate media on their “Russian aggression” script. Factually, NATO had its collective behind unceremoniously kicked in Afghanistan. It shivered when it had to fight the Serbs in the late 1990s. And in the 2010s, it did not dare fight the Damascus and Axis of Resistance forces.

When all fails, myth prevails. Enter the US Army occupying parts of Europe to “defend” it against – who else? – those pesky Russians.

That’s the rationale behind the annual US Army DEFENDER-Europe 21, now on till the end of June, mobilizing 28,000 soldiers from the US and 25 NATO allies and “partners.”

This month, men and heavy equipment pre-positioned in three US Army depots in Italy, Germany and the Netherlands will be transferred to multiple “training areas” in 12 countries. Oh, the joys of travel, no lockdown in an open air exercise since everyone has been fully vaccinated against Covid-19.

Pipelineistan uber alles

Nord Stream 2 is not a big deal for Moscow; it’s a Pipelineistan inconvenience at best. After all the Russian economy did not make a single ruble out of the not yet existent pipeline during the 2010s – and still it did fine. If NS2 is canceled, there are plans on the table to redirect the bulk of Russian gas shipments towards Eurasia, especially China.

Connecting German infrastructure for Nord Stream 2 is in place. In this handout photo released February 4, 2020, by the press service of Eugal, a view shows the Eugal pipeline, in Germany. The Eugal pipeline, which will receive gas from Nord Stream 2 in the future, has reached full pumping capacity, and the second line of the pipeline has been introduced. Photo: AFP / Press-service of Eugal / Sputnik
Connecting German infrastructure for Nord Stream 2 is in place. In this handout photo released February 4, 2020, by the press service of Eugal, a view shows the Eugal pipeline, in Germany. The Eugal pipeline, which will receive gas from Nord Stream 2 in the future, has reached full pumping capacity, and the second line of the pipeline has been introduced. Photo: AFP / Press-service of Eugal / Sputnik

In parallel, Berlin knows very well that canceling NS2 will be an extremely serious breach of contract – involving hundreds of billions of euros; it was Germany that requested the pipeline to be built in the first place.

Germany’s energiewende (“energy transition” policy) has been a disaster. German industrialists know very well that natural gas is the only alternative to nuclear energy. They are not exactly fond of Berlin becoming a mere hostage, condemned to buy ridiculously expensive shale gas from the hegemon – even assuming the egemon will be able to deliver, as its fracking industry is in shambles. Merkel explaining to German public opinion why they must revert to using coal or buy shale from the US will be a sight to see.

As it stands, NATO provocations against NS2 proceed unabated – via warships and helicopters. NS2 needed a permit to work in Danish waters, and it was granted only a month ago. Even as Russian ships are not as fast in laying pipes as the previous ships from Swiss-based Allseas, which backed down, intimidated by US sanctions, the Russian Fortuna is making steady progress, as noted by analyst Petri Krohn: one kilometer a day on its best days, at least 800 meters a day. With 35 km left, that should not take more than 50 days.

ORDER IT NOW

Conversations with German analysts reveal a fascinating shadowplay on the energy front between Berlin and Moscow – not to mention Beijing. Compare it with Washington: EU diplomats complain there’s absolutely no one to negotiate with regarding NS2. And even assuming there would be some sort of deal, Berlin is inclined to admit Putin’s judgment is correct: the Americans are “not agreement-capable.” One just needs to look at the record.

Behind the fog of war, though, a clear scenario emerges: the deep state/NATO combo using Kiev to start a war as a Hail Mary pass to ultimately bury NS2, and thus German-Russian relations.

At the same time, the situation is evolving towards a possible new alignment in the heart of the “West”: US/UK pitted against Germany/France. Some Anglosphere exceptionals are certainly more Russophobic than others.

The toxic encounter between Russophobia and Pipelineistan will not be over even if NS2 is completed. There will be more sanctions. There will be an attempt to exclude Russia from SWIFT. The proxy war in Syria will intensify. The hegemon will go no holds barred to keep creating all sorts of geopolitical harassment against Russia.

What a nice wag-the-dog op to distract domestic public opinion from massive money printing masking a looming economic collapse. As the empire crumbles, the narrative is set in stone: it’s all the fault of “Russian aggression.”

(Republished from Asia Times by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Alfa158 says:

    Well, I’m hoping the Ukrainians will finally remember Bernard Lewis’s warning about the U.S. and realize they are being used like a Kleenex: “America is harmless as an enemy but treacherous as a friend.”
    Americans have had it and will never tolerate sending combat troops into a Russia/Ukraine conflict no matter how much rah-rah let’s you and him fight we’ll hold your coat for you, faux patriotism the lugenpresse throw at them. Those of us who volunteered for the US military in the past have learned our lesson.

    • Thanks: tgordon
    • Replies: @Fred777
    , @mindblower
  2. Good article. Lot’s of info we don’t get elsewhere.

  3. anon[156] • Disclaimer says:

    “It certainly does not help that in early April US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, fresh from his former position as a board member of missile manufacturer Raytheon, “
    He was told at his send off party not to worry about winning any war but to start and continue the new and the existing ones. His valedictory promise did not disappoint anybody .

  4. Petermx says:

    “The problem is Merkel and Macron don’t control NATO.” I don’t know how a decision is made whether NATO will go to war or not but if Germany and France have no say in whether their soldiers will be sent to war or not, that must by a very scary thought for them.

    I found the following analysis interesting and I think it makes sense. It suggests France and Germany have a say in matters and that they oppose any offensive Ukraine has in mind. The commentator analyzes the diplomatic language and Germany and France appear to be fed up. Without coming out and saying so directly, they see things more as Russia does than Ukraine. It’s very unfortunate things have developed this way for Ukraine. In addition, if Merkel wants to be perceived as a complete failure as chancellor in Germany, only then will she let NS2 be stopped from being completed. This analysis suggests there may be some strain between France and Germany versus the USA.

  5. I do have to disagree. If Ukraine start a war Russia must take back all eastern part of Ukraine that has prevalent Russian population. Odessa and Zaporozhie is particularly important. Russia must also tale all Kiev area back.

    • Agree: Ukraine Tiger, Alfred
    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  6. Several things to note:

    1. Senior Ukrainian officers were once Soviet officers. They, and most of their troops, don’t want to fight Russians and know it’s foolish. The Ukrainian army will crumble if they come in contact with regular Russian troops. It’s not that they are cowards, but sane. It would be like Canadian troops ordered to attack across the American border.

    2. The American empire is furious and concerned that its long-time puppet disobeyed orders. Germany wants Russian gas and the empire wants that pipeline stopped. Not only to hurt Russia, but to teach the Germans a lesson. If fighting occurs in the Ukraine, would the Germans dare to buy natgas from evil Russians?

    3. Most importantly, Israel controls the American government. A major goal is the destruction of Syria to allow the expansion of Greater Israel, as explained in the video below. This nearly succeeded until the Russians intervened. Fighting in Ukraine would divert Russian military resources from Syria so that nation can be destroyed, or Russia may give up Syrian support as part of a grand peace deal.

    The Biden administration is fully supportive of finishing off Syria and Lebanon, then moving on to destroy Iran. The new talks about Iran’s nuclear program will go nowhere. It’s just a show so Biden can say he tried.

  7. @anon

    It makes all the difference when the revolving-door regulator-capture reframing is not “USA/Nato vs Russia” — but rather the more accurate “Raytheon (et al) vs Russia.”

    The modern truth is: Russia and China have governments in control of policy and industry. The USA (and therefore also its yapping poodle collection) have Industry setting policy and running government for their 1%-er shareholder benefits.

    • Replies: @responseTwo
  8. Part of me wants to think that the Ukies will want to fold at the last moment. Yet all this apparent evidence points to their going for it and promptly getting their collective noses smashed in. Those who speculate in meta-political geo-strategic analysis cannot make sense of the moves by the largely incompetent shot-callers and their even more incompetent minions who cut the orders to their chessmen.

    Heavy pressure by the equally incompetent regime in the Di$trict of Corruption, where carrot and stick are equally in play, is as Escobar points out, the force behind this nearly automatic death-sentence for the Kiev regime and the poor slobs who make up the draftee elements in the Ukrainian military.

    Again, geopolitically, one wonders at the deeper string-pullers within the Pentagram, the CIA and the mass media of mind-control and message-massaging. Is this essentially a move to keep the American people–most particularly the edjumacated managerial and technical classes who make up the core of the alleged “middle-class”–“on message and in line”?

    Yes, the WarDefense industry (aka Eisenhower’s “Military-Industrial Complex”) insist on ongoing wars and threats of war to maintain their profit margins for the prime owners of that false economic basis,prime actors such as the Rottenchild Crime Clan and the rest of the parasites clustered in City of London and Wall $treet.

    How will the canny and ever wary Russians proceed? Will they operate in the manner that Escobar proposes, by not directly employing the considerable ground-forces which now stand on alert just to the eastwards of their mutually agreed upon Swiss-cheese border with the Novorussians in Donetsk and Luhansk? Or will Russian strategy be somewhat more comprehensive by liberating the rest of the primarily Russian-speaking parts of eastern and southern Ukraine which had largely backed the overthrown legitimate government of that bedizened composite nation and are still smarting under the heels of the Galician fascists and the smaller grouping of Russophobic Ukrainian nationalists who still harbor nightmares about the Bolshevik/Stalinoid Holodomar? There are, after all human considerations which may influence Kremlin policy.

    Should Russia decide to make a move, it is my projection that they would never be likely to even attempt to occupy central Ukraine and would set a stop-line well to the east of Kiev. Something that bemusingly intrigues me is the Belarus factor. It would appear that the Minsk regime, smarting from the attempted coup by the Poles, Baltic states and Ukraine backing of “pro-Westerners, may be mobilizing to get into the action and perhaps readjust their boundaries somewhat southwards. This could indicate a countering move by the Uniates in Galicia to make common cause with their Roman Catholic brethren in the afore-mentioned Poland along with Lithuania and remove their lands of control from a shattered Ukraine and form a confederation with their neighbors to the west.

    There is little doubt in my mind that Russia has numerous human assets in central and southwestern Ukraine, who along with elements of a disintegrating Ukie military, would unite to overthrow the rotten regime in Kiev and establish a markedly neutral smaller but more cohesive Ukraine–a natural though smaller nation which could serve as an essential buffer between a strengthening Russia and a collection of NATO nations which would then comprise a hodgepodge of hawks and doves, a discombobulated collection of politico-economic entities attempting to swim their ways to calmer shores or to maintain some semblance of “Great Reset” programming in the face of popular resistance to lockdowns and mandated AstraGenica jabbings.

    Worst possible scenario is that someone in the Pentagon-dominated NATO command complex loses their cool and initiates a conflict that could result in planet-wide chaos and destruction. One would hope that cooler heads will take a few hits to their expansionist fantasies and decide to make the best of a failed bit of adventurism and bide their time—if they feel they have any time remaining before globalist economies hit the skids, leading to a potential collapse to the myth of progress.

  9. Vojkan says:

    Everyone gets American logic. It’s the Ukrainian logic that is truly baffling. Just how stupid do the Ukrainians have to be to attack when anyone with a brain knows what will be the outcome?

  10. AH14 says:

    More pro Moscow nonsense from one of the usual suspects. Notice that all countries that are geographically close to Russia hate Russia. Until Russia begs forgiveness about WW2, renounces all expansionist claims towards its neighbors and bans all Soviet era symbols and propaganda they will rightfully remain a pariah state. All this pro Russian propaganda that never mentions how awful Russia was in WW2 cranked out by Pepe and faker is just false opposition like Putin.

    In any case Putin is just a scarecrow meant to trick people into thinking Russia is an alternative to the West. He is Jewish, he is mossad (mossad and kgb are the same thing) and he is a rapacious neo liberal. His whole job is to prevent a real Russian patriot from rising up and banning Soviet era symbols, apologizing to Poland, Ukraine and the Baltic’s about WW2 and banning Victory day celebrations and the march of the immortals. That’s what a real Russian patriot would do and it’s suspicious Putin hasn’t done it.

    Russia isn’t pivoting to China because the West is mean to the neo Soviets for no reason. They are pivoting to China because that’s their natural civilizationonal model. Russians are non European and they are anti White, and once Russia disintegrates under Putin’s misrule which will be very, very soon than China will take over the territory of the former RF instead of the Baltic’s, Ukraine and Poland. The relationship with China is about keeping Europe out while Russia collapses.

  11. GMC says:

    You can’t do any Normal business with a Crime Syndicate like the USA/ EU and or Israel. Turkey, Saudi Arabia and others. Russia is so close to being self sufficient , they could turn their back on the West and it’s cut throat allies , and just look to the East until the West implodes. They will have to destroy all armies within close proximity to their borders, including the Ukrainian/Mercenary one. Moscow must still have Jew Oligarchy baggage, that is making money on Wall Street and those ties need to break apart or come to a Pro Russian agreement or else. Rename Kyiv to Berlin 1944, and Lviv to Dresden and take it from there – and don’t look back anymore. And PS : on way to Lviv, Agent Orange every F..n Monsanto/Bayer, Dupont and Cargil farm – like they did to Vietnam.

  12. Levtraro says:

    Behind the fog of war, though, a clear scenario emerges: the deep state/NATO combo using Kiev to start a war as a Hail Mary pass to ultimately bury NS2, and thus German-Russian relations.

    Yes but also the Ukraine needs to save those gas transit fees that will go kaput if NS2 is completed and operational, so it is the Ukraine the one with the most immediate incentive to start a war. Though they need just a small war, a little war to force the hands of the Germans to cancel NS2. Problem is the Russians have promised to give the Ukrainians more than what they bargained for. To save those gas transit fees the Ukrainians may end losing the country to a puppet installed by the Kremlin.

    • Agree: Rev. Spooner
    • Replies: @Majority of One
  13. Schuetze says:

    Escobar, besides not naming the Jew, does not mention which side Israel is likely to support. We can be pretty certain that whichever side Israel supports is going to be the victor in this conflict. Turkey is also important because of the Bosphorus, and Turkey and Israel are working together to exploit the Leviathan gas field to the detriment of Cyprus and Syria, so Israel can jerk Turkey around like a pitbull on a chain.

    The US has been moving drones into Ukraine and they now are right on the border with Crimea. The US Marines also have a large presence in Romania, also likely including all kinds of drones. The Israelis are among the planet’s leaders in drone technology, and surely own even more patents. Israel provides much of its drone technology to Turkey, and the Azerbeijanis used Turkish and Israeli drones in their short war with Armenia. During this short war the Azerbeijanis shot up all kinds of Russian equipment with their drones including Pantsir’s and ZSU-23’s.

    The US also has all kinds of stealth drones and missiles, likely that is one area where they lead the entire planet.

    So here is my scenario: Plausibly deniable US F35’s and stealth cruise missiles take off from Romania and swing out over the black sea to take out Russian anti-aircraft positions, airfields, Russian Airforce assets, and S300/400/500 batteries around Sevastopol and throughout Crimea. These S300/400/500 have not yet been proven against US and Israeli stealth technology. Once the big batteries, BUK’s and Pantsir’s have been eliminated, US stealth drones are sent in, also from Romania, to clear up the majority of remaining assets including manpads. Then Ukraine, with Craft and other contractors in support, sends in waves of tank/APC busting drones and orbiting missile platforms.

    At this point, the US, Nato and Ukraine still have not shed a drop of blood. Then the MLRS and artillery start softening up the Ismus to Crimea in preparation for the assult. This is likely when the Kerch bridge would be take out too, and the Russian Black Sea fleet eliminated by stealth drones and F35’s too. Finally, when all the big stuff is eliminated, the real invasion would begin.

    • Agree: AH14
    • Disagree: Ukraine Tiger
    • Troll: Zarathustra
  14. Goyboy says:

    Future generations will claim they went to all this trouble to lay 1000s of kilometres of pipeline under the sea and then never used it.

    Those times must have been completely dysfunctional.
    But they all got on-board the COVID hoax and passport pandemic.
    And look what became of Europe…Poor old Europe!

  15. I’m mixed up, and hoping for enlightenment. In 1853 when France, Britain and their allies, in their Crimean War with Russia, attacked the Russian naval base at Sevastopol, were they all really just confused and it wasn’t Russia at all but really it was Ukraine? And in 1945 when Stalin, FDR and Churchill met at Yalta in the Crimea, where Stalin was their host, were they all just confused, and it wasn’t Russia at all, but really Ukraine? And if it was Russia then, when and how did it come to be Ukraine now?

    • Agree: Rdm
    • Replies: @Garliv
    , @Chris Moore
  16. Ross23 says:

    Pepe and Saker generally ignore the fact that Ukraine leadership sending large numbers of men to a certain death in a suicide attack and a certain military defeat is very dangerous to the Ukie gov and Zelensky himself.

    Almost certainly triggering a coup in any gov that tries it.

    A bullet in the head is a bullet in the head regardless if it’s Russian or one of your own officers.

    Using ISIS in E Ukraine is more than dumb since there is no host Islamic population and would stand out to the world media.

    They might as well dress them up as Nazi stormtroopers with swastica armbands LOL.

  17. @Petermx

    Exactly! So much for ‘democrazy’ and the Free World. Men fit to be slaves.

    • Thanks: Petermx
  18. Miro23 says:

    https://vk.com/wall-57424472_304332

    If this assessment is correct (in Russian but comes out OK in Google translate), then the US / NATO have to get involved to compensate for the lack of a Ukrainian air force – and in fact the rest of their obsolete equipment.

    Personally, I can’t imagine US or NATO troops on the ground in the Ukraine – and I don’t see any planning for it, so what’s the idea?

    One possibility seems to be 1) to start the fighting 2) then start the real game, which is a massive anti-Russian media barrage “heroic Ukrainian patriots”, “Russian atrocities”, “killer Putin” etc. sufficient to finish with Nord Stream 2, divide Russia from France/Germany, plus reanimate NATO and sanction Russia. Basically to force Europe back into US hegemony, and away from independent decision making.

    They won’t have any problem with the UK (their most slavish follower) but at some point the French and Germans are surely going to become tired of all this CIA/Neo-con BS.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Herald
  19. [German Industrialists] are not exactly fond of Berlin becoming a mere hostage, condemned to buy ridiculously expensive shale gas from the hegemon….

    German Industrialists and financiers have been repeatedly shaken down by the hegemon for fines related to a number of “infractions.” The scuttlebutt I’ve heard from a number of them is that it got old a long time ago; what point is it to participate in the US market when your profits are repeatedly clawed back as “fines,” and those in the US with whom you compete are given a leg up not just in the US, but on the world stage. Left to most industrialists, Germany might have gone its own way years ago. Oddly enough, it is the Ossivergeltungswaffe who dithers over breaking ranks with the “ally” that openly spied on her.

    And even assuming there would be some sort of deal, Berlin is inclined to admit Putin’s judgment is correct: the Americans are “not agreement-capable.” One just needs to look at the record.

    The most recent example would be the Doha agreement on the US withdrawal of forces and personnel from Afghanistan. Apparently the Pentagon recently awarded a number of contracts for contractor services in that country for some time well past the “agreed” withdrawal date, strongly suggesting the agreement to leave was a ruse.

  20. NS2 will be targeted by the US if it’s completed. There’s no way to protect it and the US wants it shut down, so they’ll blow a few holes in it and the repairs will take months or it will be abandoned for the time being.

    Germany needs to tell the US to pound sand AND demand the US remove all it’s mercenaries and equipment from its soil. Abandoning the insanity of NATO is long overdue. The entire EU project is up for grabs should a hot war start.

    • Agree: MarkU, HeebHunter, Realist
    • Replies: @Rdm
  21. Garliv says:
    @anon

    He was told at his send off party not to worry about winning any war but to start and continue the new and the existing ones.

    How come Americans don’t mind this revolving door policy between weapon makers and senior military Generals? Like Wall Street, Treasury kind of thing. It should be obvious how Very dangerous it is to have conflicted, money minded individuals at the head of military. But then Major General Smedley Butler warned decades ago how war is a racket but it doesn’t seem to have registered as an issue of concern.

    • Replies: @anon
  22. Garliv says:
    @J. Alfred Powell

    Unfortunately we live in a world where history is/was erased, facts don’t matter or they can be twisted to fit anything no matter how ridiculous, the present is what I say it is. Thus US and its vassals are just interested in their today’s narrative.
    Ukrainian leadership is hopelessly incompetent and corrupt so will do anything Biden’s gang tells them. It’s simply a depressing scenario.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
  23. Fred777 says:
    @Alfa158

    The crumbling US economy will provide more than enough meat for the neocon’s grinder.

    • Replies: @Realist
  24. AH14 says:
    @Schuetze

    Spot on analysis. Russia has gotten its rotten teeth kicked in in ever war they have fought since the collapse of the JewSSR. On the other hand for all its problems the US military is still fairly competent and is so high tech that having woke personal and ideology foisted on it doesn’t effect it much. The US could easily wipe out the neo Soviet military districts bordering the conflict zone and Crimea without much effort using stand off power and stealth technology which Russia isn’t even close to understanding or possessing.

    After the US/Ukraine victory watch for the rhetoric against Russia to subside and shift to Syria and Iran who Russia will also betray like Donbass. Hell the Iranians and Syrians might just surrender once they see Russia get so utterly humiliated in Ukraine. Jewtin may even be in on the US plans since he is actually part of the same false opposition. I suspect that anti Russian rhetoric will subside after Ukraine, Syria, and Iran fall which they will in rapid succession. After that than Russia itself will break up and nothing of value will be lost.

    • Disagree: GomezAdddams
    • LOL: RoatanBill, Z-man, Realist
    • Troll: MarkU
  25. Fred777 says:
    @Schuetze

    Here’s the real scenario. The Ukies get their ass handed to them in eastern Ukraine region and the US backs down, screaming “RUSSIAN AGGRESSION!” through their mouthpieces at CNN.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
  26. padre says:
    @AH14

    Perhaps you didn’t notice that everywhere American troops are situated, they hate the USA!

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  27. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @J. Alfred Powell

    In 1853 when France, Britain and their allies, in their Crimean War with Russia, attacked the Russian naval base at Sevastopol, were they all really just confused and it wasn’t Russia at all but really it was Ukraine? And in 1945 when Stalin, FDR and Churchill met at Yalta in the Crimea, where Stalin was their host, were they all just confused, and it wasn’t Russia at all, but really Ukraine? And if it was Russia then, when and how did it come to be Ukraine now?

    What today are called “the Jews” yesterday were known as the Khazarian Mafia and the day before that were known as the Synagogue of Satan.
    https://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-hidden-history-of-incredibly-evil.html

  28. MLK says:

    It’s worth noting the seeming downgrading of the China-Russia “Strategic Alliance” to a “Strategic Partnership” the moment everyone was sure they got rid of Trump.

    This while the alliance has deepened, and in concert with Biden’s handlers has gone out of its way to let everyone know it’s on the right side of history.

    Nothing is free in this world, most especially foreign assistance/acquiescence to stealing a US presidential election. The payoffs have come fast and furious, as I predicted. But those actions were presented as mere down payments, particularly to China, Iran and Russia.

    The shift in the narrative, as the kids say, on Nord Stream tells the tale. All you have to do is read Escobar over the years to see it in realtime. Here he fails to mention that the current project is called Nord Stream 2 because . . . . get ready for it . . . . . it was preceded by Nord Stream 1 — a gift by Obama/Biden in 2014.

    Yes, a gift in that compensation didn’t go to the USG in the form of geopolitical horse-trading but to the Clinton Foundation et. al. It was such a good deal for all concerned they planned a sequel: Nord Stream 2.

    In steps Trump, stubbornly and very publicly pointing out that “We’re (US national interest) the suckers.” That we bear the lion’s share of the cost of NATO to protect Germany from Russia, yet Germany (which is delinquent on its dues) makes itself and Western Europe ever more dependent on Russian energy.

    Are you getting why Trump had to go by any means necessary? Why anybody who is anyone needed an American Yeltsin — a Potemkin Village Idiot, so they could get back to business?

    Or why we’re back to the old sing-song that Nord Stream 2 coming on line is no win for Russia. It’s just a headache that Putin got roped into way back when on a date with Merkel!

    Any reasonably intelligent middle schooler knows that top of the list of USG geopolitical imperatives is keeping keeping China and Russia from uniting in a strategic alliance. And, no, rebranding it a mere “partnership” isn’t an answer.

    • Replies: @WHAT
    , @hillaire
    , @Badger Down
  29. @AH14

    Russia to ban its historical symbols? Are you nuts? They’re not Germans to do something so ridiculous. And if you’re advocating censorship you’re at the wrong site.

  30. skrik says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Not only to hurt Russia, but to teach the Germans a lesson. If fighting occurs in the Ukraine, would the Germans dare to buy natgas from evil Russians

    I suggest Mme Merkel should go ‘trans’ and get a pair, then kick *all* US forces out of D. IF she did that THEN she would go down in history as D’s eternal saving mother, but IF she doesn’t THEN Markus Söder most likely will = making himself a real hero, which will *really* get up Mme Merkel’s nose.

    IMHO most ‘upright’ German wo/men-in-the-street are *totally* fed up with being disgustingly dominated [actually raped] by the US. rgds

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  31. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    Failure to vigorously address the root cause of practically every major problem in the World today, will result in Armageddon soon enough.

    Jews.

    It’s the Jews that foment this insane “Russophobia”.

    That the Jews stole Ukraine, and were allowed to, was Satan’s key move.

    Enjoy your scorched earth remnants after the inevitable Jew War III, you moronic and fearful of being called an antisemite citizens of the West.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • Thanks: Alfred Muscaria
  32. How does the info on Hunter’s laptop play into American Ukrainian policy? The Biden Crime Syndicate has made millions off of the Ukraine. Is it just now simply about pipelines? Just curious on how Hunter plays in all this, or if he even does.

    • Replies: @hillaire
    , @GomezAdddams
  33. WHAT says:
    @AH14

    Lol khokhol got assblasted, as expected.
    Are you ready to mogilize, hokhol?

  34. WHAT says:
    @MLK

    >protect Germany from Russia
    Lol.

  35. Blinken poking the Ukies to attack is a Hail Mary to stop NS2. Maybe it will work, maybe not. But a few hundred or a few thousand dead Ukies is worth the Russian boogeyman psy-op for the empire. The US, as Mao said, is a paper tiger, and isn’t going to engage in a real war with Russia. And Russia has no interest in taking over the basket case of the Ukraine. Expect France, Germany or Ukie generals to pull back Zelensky or expect Russia to destroy everything larger than a lawn mower. There’s no more “mulligans” for the empire against Russia — proxies will be punished quickly and severely.

  36. Miro23 says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    1. Senior Ukrainian officers were once Soviet officers. They, and most of their troops, don’t want to fight Russians and know it’s foolish. The Ukrainian army will crumble if they come in contact with regular Russian troops. It’s not that they are cowards, but sane. It would be like Canadian troops ordered to attack across the American border.

    It’s not up to them. Their Zio/CIA leadership have no doubt been generously (personally) compensated by the US for offering them in sacrifice.

  37. Levtraro says:
    @Schuetze

    We can be pretty certain that whichever side Israel supports is going to be the victor in this conflict.

    Your admiration for Israel is showing, or is it defeatism?

    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Rurik
  38. Marckus says:

    “”Ukraine and Russia may be on the brink of War…blah blah””

    Contrary to what Pepe asserts the rest of the world will not give a shit. Memories of Chechnya? The sooner Putin over runs the place the better. You can bet the Ukrainian ruling elite, for all their gumption, have their jets all fuelled and ready with flight plans for the US via Switzerland.

    When things get sticky the Masters of Ukraine will look to their own skins and discard the then useless cunts who supported them.

    Vlad needs to get this over and done with quickly. That way UR readers can ignore Pulpit Pepe and concentrate on the Chauvin trial and the coming Chimp Invasion coming this summer to a City near you.

  39. @AH14

    In any case Putin is just a scarecrow meant to trick people into thinking Russia is an alternative to the West. He is Jewish, he is mossad (mossad and kgb are the same thing) and he is a rapacious neo liberal

    Thanks for stating the truth, but I’m sorry to say it will fall on deaf ears here at the alter of Putin worship. Virtual none here can see Putin is just another Chabad Lubavitch controlled thug, doing the bidding of his Jewish masters.

    https://fitzinfo.net/2020/05/01/putin-a-rothschild-controlled-chabad-jewish-grand-master-put-in-power-to-usher-in-anti-christ-russian-analyst/

    • Troll: Ukraine Tiger, Seraphim
    • Replies: @Zarathustra
    , @gsjackson
  40. Z-man says:

    Volodymyr Zelensky …lets see what is he? A Joo former comedian. ‘Nuff said’.

  41. MLK says:

    The current fashion is that the US is so “exceptional” it shouldn’t pursue it’s national interest.

    Lots of shouting during Trump’s four years over the terrible awful “hegemon” failing to service the interests of so-called allies and adversaries alike.

    I already mentioned geo-strategy 101 as far as keeping China and Russia from unifying. We’re on to that only because keeping Germany and Russia from “partnering” in dominance of the Eurasian continent is too triggering to even mention.

    Ask yourself why “the hegemon” isn’t supposed to pursue its interests? You know, none of these sovereigns are cute and cuddly. But from where I sit it isn’t even a close call that the US is the cleanest dirty shirt compared to what China, Russia, Germany, and Iran, have historically visited upon their own people let alone others.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • LOL: Rdm
    • Replies: @Robert Bruce
  42. Marckus says:

    Reliable sources in the DOD who wish to remain anonymous have indicated that Secretary Austin Floyd, oops Lloyd Austin is going to sweep up all male blacks in the US.

    Designated the 1st Monkey Army, equipped with red dresses, high heel shoes, blond wigs and matching handbags, Floyd, I meant Lloyd will personally lead them in a Blitzkrieg to the gates of Moscow. Who needs the Ukrainians ?

    There they will loot and burn the place, a practice that comes naturally to them and in which they are well versed. Vlad better be on his toes !

    Too bad really, as this means a Summer of boredom here in the US.

    • Replies: @Realist
  43. Reaper says:

    “NATO puppets do not have the balls to get into an open conflict with Russia.”

    Sadly not so sure.
    Some has it`s own agenda, like POland, Lithuania. Not even NATO/ US are in full control over that, and needs no more than a misstep. Like activate some system which is potentionally dangerous for Russia.
    Or in different NATO/ US bases elsewhere in continental Europe.

    “to provoke an irreparable fissure between Russia and the EU, under NATO auspices”
    “When all fails, myth prevails. Enter the US Army occupying parts of Europe to “defend” it against – who else? – those pesky Russians.”

    This sounds to be the real goal.
    For long since the US is jealous to Europe as it became more and more equal in economic and political power, and prevail better even with this “global pandemic”.
    EU wants more independence, US wants it`s colony to more obidient and follow commands.

    If not just occupy, but “let” Europe partly destroyed even better: the treat of dominance reduced, and again can be the “nice savior” who helps and “brings democracy”.

    So seems far too real in the Ukrainian conflict Ukraine is just a side character.

  44. Schuetze says:
    @Levtraro

    Germany, at its peak in 1942, had control of Europe from Gibraltar to Moscow and from Norway to Sicily, and yet Germany could not defeat Judea.

    If/When Israel steps out of the shadows and throws the entirety of Jewish Power behind one side, Ukraine or Russia, then the other side will quickly sue for peace. Ignoring the Sampson option, when the Jews of Russia, or the Jews of Ukraine, whichever is going to lose, get the word from their rabbinical councils and the Sanhedrin to stop supporting the war, that countries leadership will either cuck or get stabbed in the back.

    Looking back to Germany in 1942, Kaufmann’s book “Germany Must Perish” had been already released, and the first drafts of the Morgentau plan were coming out as well. One of the reasons Germans fought so hard to the bitter end is because the Jews had made their plans for the Amaleking of Germany perfectly clear, and the entire planet saw the screwing that the hebrew did to Germany at Nuremburg. Trust me, it won’t go on for that long. It would be bad for the Jews, and they already got Israel in WWII.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  45. There is no “Russophobia” involved. Russia has given good reason for the mistrust they have earned. Putin whines about not wanting war, then invades his neighbors, then acts so put upon.

    If Putin tries anything with Ukraine again, he will find that its military is nothing like they were in ’14. They well remember the Russian reconquest after the revolution and Holodomor. Ukraine will not be easily swallowed again.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • LOL: MarkU, RoatanBill
    • Troll: Ukraine Tiger
  46. what does a bonobo know about manufacturing missiles?

  47. @MLK

    What national interests? This scenario is more of a big distraction from a not to distant financial collapse for the hegemon and it’s underlings.

    • Replies: @MLK
  48. Less than a century after Jewish bolsheviks nearly succeeded in starving them all to death, Ukrainians are lining up to send their daughters to work in Israeli brothels and their sons to get themselves killed fighting wars for the Jews.

    Ukrainians are dumber than Africans.

  49. skrik says:
    @AH14

    … and @Schuetze, I hear your mother calling.

  50. @Carlton Meyer

    In addition to the senior officers, more than a few rank-and-file are likely to be Russian-speakers or otherwise less than enthusiastic about attacking Russia. It make me wonder, would the failed invasion of the Donbas be immediately followed by a military coup in Kiev?

    • Replies: @Anon
  51. Aedib says:

    It seems that CoVid got totally out of control in Ukraine. Deaths toll is hovering just below 500/day. May be the clown Ze would love to start a war to distract the focus from the chaotic internal situation just like the Argentinean junta did in the 1980s.

  52. Anonymous[902] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan

    Good point. They simply can’t “win” anything by attacking.

    The (((US))) will provide plenty of encouragement and support as long as they get mountains of Ukrainian corpses in return. Those corpses can then be photographed and the photos broadcast all over the world as “proof” that Putin is Hitler. Basically, Ukrainians are being funnelled into the meat grinder for a globohmo psyop opportunity. What a way to die.

    And if the (((US))) really pushes their own goyim into the machine, we’re looking at a WW3 scenario which will almost certainly turd-blossom into a thermonuclear exchange of some kind with Ukraine sitting in the epicentre. So, again, they don’t “win” anything, to say the least.

    In other news: Zelensky is a Jew, as is his patron oligarch, predecessor and his predecessor’s patron oligarch. Gosh, even Victoria Nuland is Jewish. What a tiny world we have here. What could, possibly, go wrong.

  53. Realist says:
    @Fred777

    The crumbling US economy will provide more than enough meat for the neocon’s grinder.

    Perhaps they will turn their attention to problems at home. The question is are they smart enough to recognize where the problem lies.

  54. MLK says:
    @Robert Bruce

    Are you referring to the Ukraine fiasco? Would that it were so that it was just a distraction. Just apply some reverse engineering to how Germany and Russia have a pretext to link up energy-wise when Ukraine was a perfectly serviceable transit point until NeoCon filth started working their magic.

    • Replies: @Robert Bruce
  55. @skrik

    I suggest Mme Merkel should go ‘trans’ and get a pair, then kick *all* US forces out of D. IF she did that THEN she would go down in history as D’s eternal saving mother, but IF she doesn’t THEN Markus Söder most likely will = making himself a real hero, which will *really* get up Mme Merkel’s nose.

    Impossible becasue Germany is under “Kanzlerakte”.

    http://live.world-citizenship.org/wp-archive/7813

    Japan, also defeated in WW2, has a similar secret agreement which is why both Germany and Japan are vassals of the USA.

    There is a book by Kouji Yabe that talks about this “secret agreement” in Japanese.

    • Replies: @skrik
    , @RoatanBill
  56. Realist says:
    @Marckus

    Your comments in jest are quite clever…but the funniest part was Reliable sources in the DOD…

    • Replies: @Marckus
  57. Realist says:
    @Quartermaster

    Comments like this are why you are a Quartermaster. If your IQ was a little over 100 you could be a Halfmaster…or perhaps a Halfasster.

    • LOL: Fred777
  58. anon[177] • Disclaimer says:

    Wanna know why there is still a Quanon thing going on predicting something hgappens by April 20th? They are desperate that white guys re-enlist their precious military.

    Just imagine, less whites in the military (and even fewer signing up), a not-guilty verdict in the Floyd trial, the Ukraine moves against Russia, and China takes Taiwan. I dont think the Iranians just sit there if this all goes down. Meanwhile we are trying to tell the Myanamar military to accept a rigged election and we still claim Gaudio, who never ran for the office, is the real president of Venezuela.

    But remember we can’t even control our own border seeing sex trafficking of minors and narcotics. Remember, you cant ask for a drivers liscense to vote in Georgia……….what real nation on earth would trust our neocon-dominated State Department?

  59. GMC says:
    @AH14

    And I suppose your stupid ass would have voted to stay with the Criminal Corrupt Dysfunctional Ukraine, had you had a chance to vote in Crimea. So, if you look at the booming economy in Crimea vs the destitute and loser Ukraine – then it shows how much of an idiot you are. Da – ya ” I’m for Ukraine – because the US , Nato and Israel is going send us hundreds of tons of cool weapons – , so we can attack nuclear equipped – Russia- and probably die. But hey, those Babylon Talmud suckers callin the shots in Washington and Tel Aviv – will toast to your dead dumb ass. LOL Russia was the name of the country before and after the Soviet Union – and you Jew boys are still trying to destroy it.

  60. Summer is going to be very bad.

  61. ADKC says:
    @Schuetze

    Russian policy permits the use of nuclear weapons should Russian territory be threatened/attacked/invaded. Should the situation develop as you suggest then Putin/Russia either have to surrender and then watch the collapse and evisceration of Russia or use those weapons. Since the limited use of nuclear weapons will invite an overwhelming response then Russia would be compelled to strike first in an unrestrained fashion.

    The US know this so why would they bother with the scenario you outline? Why not go for the big one before it’s too late?

    And, so, your scenario is not practicable; whatever US/NATO do there can be no attack on Russian territory including Crimea, air defense systems, stand-off weapons or Russian forces. And it would be exceptionally risky for US/NATO to attack any Russian assets on who move into LDNR or, for that matter, any of Ukraine.

    Your analysis is hopeless.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @alwayswrite
  62. I can guarantee the tanks on rail flat cars were headed east well before the signing of 117/2021 as well as convoys of fuel trucks.

  63. skrik says:
    @dogbumbreath

    Impossible becasue Germany is under “Kanzlerakte”

    Amazing; back when we were children, we’d say “Says who?” I’m under the impression that contracts made under duress are invalid; all it would take is for some new Kanzler to say:

    “Look what the US tells us, a free democracy, to do! Ha! They can now all bugger off; go home Yanks, get all the way out, right now!”

    OK; the alternative is that from the Kanzler through the tea-lady down to the garbage-collectors are all idiotic, abject cowards. rgds

  64. @Vojkan

    Logic be damned, if you are corrupt and your bank account is stuffed and, why not?

  65. @Majority of One

    “Or will Russian strategy be somewhat more comprehensive by liberating the rest of the primarily Russian-speaking parts of eastern and southern Ukraine”

    Yes please

  66. @Silicon Silence

    Perfect description on what is really going on.

  67. Rurik says:
    @AH14

    Until Russia begs forgiveness about WW2

    too late

    once the drums of war are beating, (and they are now ; ), then any opportunity to defuse the tensions by mollifying lingering anger over Soviet imperialism, is not going to happen.

    Instead, all people of good will and decency, must rally behind Russia like never before.

    I don’t know if there are Estonians or Poles or other Eastern Europeans lurking here, but if so, please take if from an American, that any alliance with the ZUS fiend, is going to end up very, very badly for those states.

    I’m not a weapons analyst or geopolitical strategist of any kind. Hardly. But I do know the nature of the ZUS government. I know it like I know the back of my hand.

    It was the ZUS government that prolonged WWI on behalf of Zion, which led to WWII, and the horrific loss of over 60 million European and Russian lives. Zion rose out of the ashes of Europe, and now rules the ZUS (and England and France and Canada, et al) as its undisputed ma$ter.

    If anyone thinks the ZUS is participating in good faith, then just look at Ukraine, and who perpetrated that coup, so that they could install (“Yats is the guy”) a very unpopular Jewish bankster as Ukraine’s president. (because they were supporting ‘democracy’) Since then Ukraine has descended into a dystopian hell on earth. Corruption on top of corruption. Wannabe Nazis dressing up like German SS troops and taking orders from Jewish supremacists. Asshats bombing civilians in their own putative country.

    Why, because those civilians are speaking their native tongue, Russian. Which they’ve been told by said asshats, is verboten.

    What unbelievable assholes!

    And that is who the ZUS has installed as their vassal quislings, a bunch of Jewish supremacists telling the citizens of Russian-speaking Ukraine, that they’re not allowed to speak their native language.

    What self-respecting NATO participant could possibly go along with this idiocy and transparent agenda of war?

    Is that reason enough to allow the Zionists to reignite yet another war in Europe? Because some petty assholes in Ukraine are demanding the humiliation of their Russian-speaking neighbors?

    If I were a Latvian or sane Ukrainian, I’d be telling Zion and Kolomoyskyi to eat shit. Fight their own wars for one in their rotten, Jewish supremacist lives.

    If Ukraine or anyone else, had a legitimate grievance with Putin’s Russia, then hell yes, blast away. Death is better than enslaved humiliation to your enemies.

    But the only enemies that Ukraine has, are the fiends that have co-opted control of your nation, and your destiny, and are using the Ukraine like it used Poland in the last century. As a dupe, with corrupt quislings in power, in order to foist their own agenda. And that agenda, (make no mistake) is all about furthering Jewish supremacist power and domination of your lands, as goyim are ground up in yet another Jewish-orchestrated slaughter-fest.

    Such a deal!

    • Agree: Robjil, Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Exosome
  68. Marckus says:
    @Realist

    Dear Realist,

    I am pretty fucking weary of the same droning and buzzing about this war and that war. I say, let Russia and Ukraine and anyone else who wants to, rock and roll. China and the US ? Lets rumble.

    Right now the world’s politicians are like my kids when I took them on a long trip.

    “Dad he is looking at me”
    “Dad he touched me”
    “Dad he took my Lego”
    “Dad he threw a piece of lettuce at me”

    Shit, its at the point where I might even bid on Sean Connery’s jet pack just to stay above the bullshit. It seems like today’s articles are yesterday’s articles with the paragraphs rearranged and the passive voice changed to the active voice.

    This USA is burdened with a back breaking amount of serious problems. Its hard to imagine anyone giving a flying horse’s ass about Russia and the Ukraine or any other shit hole outside the Continental US.

    Its either a little humour on my part, some naughtiness from time to time and the occasional trolling OR….saying goodbye to UR.

    We need to move on from the daily vaccination of shit !

    • Replies: @Realist
  69. @Majority of One

    Good comment. Basically what I have been saying since Maidan. I understand why it has not happened but the time has definately come. I think the demarcation would be Odessa, Kherson, Mykolaev and then north along the Dnipro including Khortiskia and up to East Sumy. I know it sounds warmongerish but I hope this happens. Get this shit over with. There is so much happening in this country that discriminates against ethnic Russians more each day.

  70. EugeneGur says:
    @Quartermaster

    Putin whines about not wanting war, then invades his neighbors,

    Putin didn’t “invade” anybody. But if invading the neighbors, or any other country for that matter, is the reason for mistrust, when the US should enjoy no trust in it whatsoever, because there is not a single country on this planet that’s invaded and destroyed more countries than the US has. Actually, the Europeans also have their share in the US “adventures” even if they like to pretend to be as innocent as newly born lambs.

    If Putin tries anything with Ukraine again, he will find that its military is nothing like they were in ’14.

    No, it isn’t; it’s worse. The Ukrainian army suffers huge non-combat losses every day: accidents from drinking or narcotics, desertion, suicides. Their commanders are incompetent and super-dumb as well as first-rate scumbags.

    They well remember the Russian reconquest after the revolution and Holodomor.

    That they do not remember, for that never happened, at least, not as described. What they do remember, however, are the caldrons in 2014-2015 and their horrendous losses.

    Ukraine will not be easily swallowed again.

    If anyone cared to swallow it, it would be.

    • Agree: Rdm
  71. @Quartermaster

    “They well remember the Russian reconquest after the revolution and Holodomor. Ukraine will not be easily swallowed again.”

    Ummmmm……. it would appear that the grandchildren of the architects of the Holodomor are the ones currently in power in Ukraine. Pretty amazing level of cucking and submission if you ask me.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  72. canspeccy says: • Website

    Did no one think of letting the people of each Ukrainian oblast decide for themselves to which country they wished to belong?

    Oh, but wait a minute, that’s what those Russian bastards did in Crimea.

    So sure, WWIII, bring it on, if that’s what it takes to restore Crimea to the rule of the legitimate kleptocrats in Kiev.

  73. @Vojkan

    imagine america doing israel’s bidding & you have it—america cannot do otherwise, cannot conceive otherwise, otherwise is in fact unimaginable, all that is conceivable is to serve & continue to forfiet blood & treasure for the betterment & safety of its queen…dumbly obeying like ants.

  74. Schuetze says:
    @ADKC

    You did not mention the jew in your scenario. Putin has taken every opportunity presented over the last 20 years to grovel in front of the Jew. From kippa at the wailing wall photo-ops, to holocaust museum visits, to shots with him surrounded by the racial supremacist Chabad Lubbowitz. Besides, Putin’s mother was a Jew, and he is a crypto-jew.

    So you are 100% certain that Putin will start a nuclear war to keep Crimea even if the jews tell him to give it up and threaten to declare both Putin and Russia Amalek. Personally I don’t think he will do it, and I don’t think his military leadership will push him to do it either. I don’t think the US will do a first strike either, especially without the blessing of Israel.

    Instead, Putin will try to convince the Jews that he, Putin, and his nation, Russia, are more valuable to Judea than Ukraine. Sure, he will try to set the ground conditions in his and Russia’s favor, so that the Hebrew will be forced to back Russia instead of Nato/US/Ukraine. And once the fighting starts he will try to spank Nato/US/Ukraine with conventional weapons, and the Nato/US/Ukraine will be trying to do the same.

    So in effect this fight for Crimea will end up like a scene out of Gladiator, with Nato/US/Ukraine playing one Gladiator and Russia the other. Judea will play the emperor. At the end of the kerfuffle, emperor Yid will chose his favorite, his bankers will be far richer, and the entire planet will have orders of magnitude more debt owed to the shyster jews.

  75. Every time I see a photo of SecDef Idi Amin I’m reminded how the US is not my country in any real sense. And if you’re a White Christian who does not practice sodomy, it’s not your country either.

  76. Rurik says:
    @Levtraro

    Your admiration for Israel is showing, or is it defeatism?

    There are two possibilities for humanity to prevail over Zion, and global slavery

    1: End the Fed/ECB.

    As long as Judea has the global counterfeiting machine, they’re going to call the shots. Money is power. And the ability to create- out of thin air- unlimited trillions of dollars, to loan out as they see fit, is as close to absolute power as it gets today.

    or

    2: nuke em

    If Russia is facing defeat at the hand of Zion (NATO, ZUS, et al), then I’d advocate going nuke.

    Whatever survives the fallout, it would be better than to condemn humanity to suffer under the cruelest degenerate sadists the world has ever known.

    If you doubt me, just ask the Germans of Danzig, or the Ukrainians starved to death by the millions. Or, just ask the Palestinians, who’ve gotten to know these people extremely well over the last seventy or so years.

    If humanity had a choice; either damn your children and grandchildren to the fate of existing like a Palestinians for perpetuity, or nuking the planet into a global reset, and allowing mankind to rebuild civilization from scratch- then as dire and as horrible as such a choice would be, I know what I’d ultimately choose.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  77. Schuetze @13

    Give it a rest, Shultzie, your Swastika is showing. My history book indicates the German Sixth Army surrendered to the Russians, not the other way around.

  78. @dogbumbreath

    Do you mean some piece of paper signed decades ago is the mighty force that will prevent Germany from telling the US to get the hell out?

    You can’t be serious. Countries routinely negate prior commitments.

    Germany has benefited from the US occupation because the US pumps lots of money into Germany’s economy. The real deciding factor is the economic implication. I’m fairly certain that Germany’s leaders know damned well that the pipeline is going to get blown up if they piss off Uncle Sam.

  79. Rurik says:
    @Schuetze

    Instead, Putin will try to convince the Jews that he, Putin, and his nation, Russia, are more valuable to Judea than Ukraine.

    alternatively, there is also the proverbial ‘stick’

    just as with the ‘Samson Option’, Putin could have his own version.

    a reverse Sampson, of sorts.

    • Agree: Fred777
    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Fred777
  80. @AH14

    Would you like a more realistic assessment of any war against Donbass and/or Crimea?

    A piddly artillery barrage starts at 0400, counter-batteried into bloody paste, as it happened so many times before.
    A regimental strenght tank attack starts, attempting to advance through countless forgotten minefields in the direction of LDNR positions, the lead tank explodes, the column stops – a fruitless exchange of fire ensues, more tanks are disabled, the rest turns tail (as usual).
    NATO commissars chase Ukrainian conscripts into RU artillery and machinegun fire until they lose control over their units, which immediately flee the battlefield (as usual).
    If V.V. Putin feels merciful, there’s no Buratino rocket barrages on troop concentration points, as happened during Ilovaisk debacle.

    Now, hopefully NATO will puff up and use their vaunted Israeli drones during the attack, so RU can study the remains.
    You never, ever attack entrenched, prepared and boresighted Russians in tank country, without air superiority, because if you do you get Kursk.
    In the best case.

    In worst, and most probable case, NATO will get another Saur Mogila disaster.

  81. @Levtraro

    Let’s look at this historically. Russia BEGAN as a national entity when Swedish Varangians and Slavic tribes in the vicinity of the trading-post the newcomers established to later become Kiev. Thus the ancient name of the entire country was Kievan Rus. The Rus were Scandinavians who quickly married into the families of local chieftains; out of which ultimately arose Vladimir the Great and other leaders of that developing nation. Additional to Kiev, there was also a major Rus trading-center in the northern forest lands at Novgorod.

    Ukraine itself, has always, since the times of the Mongol invasion, been a borderland between the Russian nation and the Roman Catholic powers to the west, the Khazars to the southeast, the Byzantines to the southwest and ultimately the Terrible Turks and the Tatarian terrorists who replaced the Byzantines. Ukraine, thusly, has never really been a true nation with its own separate language and culture.

    A modest, semi-autonomous nation-state centered on Kiev might be the best ultimate solution to the present situation. It would not be a “puppet” regime, as Levtraro speculates, rather a fraternal society which shares much history, religion and social values with Russia. We must ever bear in mind that the Maidan incident overthrew the legitimate, elected government of Ukraine and that the current regime is nothing more than a puppet state which does NOT represent the best interests of the Ukrainian people and particularly of those particularly Russian speaking folks in Crimea and the Donbass region.

    The illegitimate regime in Kiev is almost entirely Khazarian Talmudist dominated and in cahoots with the fascistic Uniates in Galicia. That group should be entirely divorced from any future Ukrainian state as their history has a long involvement with Western Roman Catholic cultures and consequently is an alien entity within the body politick of Ukraine, Belarus or Russia. Let them go their own way and not infect their neighbors to the south and east with their culturally indigestible attitudes.

    • Agree: Aedib
  82. @Schuetze

    Complete and total idiocy as more erudite posters have come to expect from this hybrid German-Ukrainian homophilophobic imperialist stooge.

    • Thanks: tgordon
    • LOL: Schuetze
    • Replies: @tgordon
  83. Levtraro says:
    @Schuetze

    You give them too much credit, they are not that much powerful, just a tiny country with a large diaspora which happened to take a large degree of control of some major White nations, and that control is not guaranteed. They have been expelled from hundreds of places that they supposedly controlled to a certain degree and have suffered a lot because of their greed for money and power and their ethos as the freaking chosen monkeys.

    Besides, you should be more careful with your assertions. Germany had a good, admirable run up to 42 thanks to the Führer but she never controlled Moscow or Gibraltar. In fact the fat-ass chicken-shaped Spanish fascist Franco betrayed Germany not allowing her to take Gibraltar to use it against GB.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  84. Schuetze says:
    @Rurik

    Yes, Russia could have some aces hidden up their sleeve. So could the US. So could Nato. So could even Ukraine.

    One important point here is that it would not be good for the jews if this goes nuclear. Perhaps Russia has a Sampson option, and perhaps it will go nuclear, perhaps the US does too, but I don’t want me or my grand children to be around afterwards if that is what happens. More importantly, I don’t think that god’s chosen racial supremacists want to destroy everything that they have worked so hard to steal for their children. What good are 3000 goyim slaves if they are all dying of radiation poisoning.

    Katherine Austin Fitts always talks about hidden technologies and the $20T stolen by the MIC. I certainly don’t know what secrets are hidden away by the US MIC in Area 51 or any other secret bases. I do think that there are all kinds of secret weapons and technology available. There has also been a sudden surge in “UFO” sightings lately. Using weather engineering as a weapon is also a factor to consider. Floods, droughts, earthquakes, volcanoes and even wild fires have already been deployed IMO.

    If we go back in history to WWII it is also clear that the Red Russian Rapist Army was not only dependent on supplies and technology from the west, but that there was no discipline. The cold war also showed an over-reliance by the USSR and the Warsaw pact on quantity over quality. Don’t forget the massive amounts of free Vodka provided by Bronfam family through lend lease either. The quality and sophistication of all Russian manufactured wares lag far behind Germany, Japan and Korea, all who would be on the same side as Ukraine in this conflict.

    So sure, Russia is likely to deploy some new weapons. US/Nato/Ukraine will too. But if I was making the bet on who would have the most and biggest new non-nuclear technology, I would not bet on Russia.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  85. Alfred says:

    Funny how they use black men to tell lies and launch wars. We all know who the puppet masters are.

    Last time, it was Colin Powell.

    • Agree: Agent76
  86. @AH14

    Pitiful but nice try. Now go back to your sandbox.

  87. BorisMay says:

    Very good article. Erdogan will certainly help jihadi groups to attack Donbass as a way of getting back in with the US. This will result in a Russian invasion of Turkey, which in turn will result in the permanent occupation Istanbul and the return of the old empire to Christianity. This has already been prophesied by Russian Orthodox priests. Turkey will be neutralised to protect Russia in Syria.

    The US fleet will be destroyed if they try to enter the Black Sea and neutralised in the Mediterranean. Migs armed with Kinsal will be busy bees.

    The UK media has already primed the nation for a likely nuclear attack, which will be inevitable should either NATO or the US support Ukraine or attack Russia since operations will be directed from the UK.

    You have to realise that Russia has considered itself at war, (sanctions are acts of war), since 2016 and has used the last five years to prepare itself. NATO, the US and Europe have done everything possible to reduce their combat abilities with social programming, arming themselves with flying bricks often referred to as F35s and reducing training periods for their officer corps. Think Prince Harry for the sort of two faced wanker that now constitutes the officer corp in the West.

    With even the semblance of war plus a few sunken obsolescent new aircraft carriers in the western Atlantic just think how the western governments will impose new even more draconian lockdowns and vaccine passports etc.

    What we need is to kick the US out of Europe and Scandinavia to allow the unification of Europe to be complete for the first time ever. A whole Europe includes Russia, since everything west of the Urals is geographically Europe. The US is not Europe and it should be kicked out all together. Let’s face it, Europe has been occupied by the US for 80 years and needs to be free of the US jackboot.

    • Agree: Johnny Smoggins
    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @Blade
  88. Alfred says:
    @Zarathustra

    Russia must also take all Kiev area back

    Sadly, most of Ukrainians are totally brainwashed. Only a couple of weeks ago, Zelensky shut down the last 3 TV channels that were not under his control. In 2014, masses of TV stations were shut down. Three TV stations in Kharkov alone.

    RT.com, SputnikNews.com, Yandex.com, VK.com, Odnoklassniki.com and many other websites are not accessible in Ukraine.

    Propaganda really works. It would take decades to sort out the mentality of most Ukrainians. They have to start with the school curriculum. The Russians must stop protecting the Jews who control the narrative everywhere. Jews must no longer control more than 10% of the media. They are only 1-2% of the population.

    Like the Jews, Galician Ukrainians are always victims. What they did to the Poles during the German occupation is forgotten.

    Ukrainians deported from Poland in 1944 recall mass killings, explain paths to historical reconciliation

  89. The zionists are in control in the Ukraine and if they start a war with Russia the Ukraine is going to be destroyed, Russia has warned Ukraine over and over but being the typical zionists that they are, they will accept nothing but destruction and bloodshed as long as it is someone elses blood and destruction.

    The zionists have destroyed Iraq and Syria and Libya and Yemen and America.

  90. Schuetze says:
    @Levtraro

    “the fat-ass chicken-shaped Spanish fascist Franco betrayed Germany not allowing her to take Gibraltar to use it against GB.”

    True. Franco was smart enough not to bet against the hebrew, even after they had practically destroyed his country. But he did make the SS Azul division available to Hitler, and they did fight bravely.

    In any case Hitler let Petain and Vichy keep the entire Mediterranean fleet, and Churchill blew it up anyway. If Hitler had demanded and taken control of that fleet the Med would have been a German/Italian lake. IIRC Franco had nothing to do with that.

    As far as Jewish Power goes, I think you entirely underestimate it. There are many inner rings to the world power structure, I certainly don’t claim to know or understand them all. But I do know that holohoax denial is a crime across the entire planet, the pathetic joke of anti-semitism is as well, but more importantly jews have total control over the media and banking of the entire world. But then came Covid. What is the true agenda behind the great reset, food justice, and climate protection? I would say that the answer is all these things are about one thing only: Jewish Power.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @James1
  91. @Alfa158

    What do uki zio nazi leaders care what happens to ukraine, they will flee to Israel the JUSSA or the JEU with billons of dollars and buy mansions, sportscars, drugs, hookers etc.

  92. AH14 says:
    @Aaron Hilel

    Sorry but Schuetze has a much, much more probable outcome than you. You haven’t accounted for the jews who control the US, Anglo sphere, EU, China and Russia. The same Jews completely control all these power blocks to the exact same extent, but they want wars so that they can control them even harder. That’s what you Russophiles don’t get at all, the jews already totally control the world uniformly and they do these wars as a way of tricking people into thinking Putin and China aren’t controlled by Jews to the same extent as the US and EU. And like I already said, the wars help them control the world even harder.

    Basically there is no reason at all to care about geo politics or what is happening in the world because it’s all ran by the Jews anyway. Putin is a Jewish NATO puppet just like Navalny. There is absolutely no difference between Xi and Biden. If the Russians win its a win for Zog, if the US and Ukraine wins its also a win for Zog. However Russians tend to be so incompetent that I predict they are less useful to Zog, combine that with the bad karma they have reaped for not apologizing about WW2 and banning victory day I think they will be the chosen losers here. And it serves them right.

  93. hillaire says:

    There is no mention of ‘jews’ in this article…

    Is this escobar character a serious analyst or has he not been paying attention ? this whole scenario revolves around ‘jews’..

    without ‘jews’ there is no story, I fear this character has had ‘one too many’ from the sakers vinyard..

    ‘nuland anyone’….

    • Agree: Alfred
  94. What a terrible article!

    But what would you expect from a pro kremlin shill like Escobar

    How on earth does someone get so stupid

    Ok Putler invades Crimea,which incidentally isn’t part of Russia,and was only part because some pork side Prussian lump invaded it, but in Pepes twisted little world the invaders some how become the victims!!!!

    Only psychos think like that

    As for a war, well it’ll get Russia totally economically shafted,and things ain’t going too well in Russia as things stand,demographics are going worse every year,no future,so the brain drain continues,and Putler knows this,even the Kremlin has had to admit it at last,they claim its some sort of act of god!

    No it’s because Russia is a backwards authoritarian cess pit run by a dwafish idiot,who’s basically created the right sort of regime to finally destroy whats left after those other idiots,the Soviets had had their shot at messing up

    so basically no future,but then Putler basically wants to get what remains of his population reduced further by war and even more sanctions,what a tin pot clown

    And this is what Pepe,the great roving journalist , thinks is good for Russia!

    They need to invent a new kind of dumb to explain how Escobars brain functions

  95. hillaire says:
    @MLK

    I’m no at all sure what you are wittering about, I’m not at all sure you are either….

  96. hillaire says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    I think hunter filled the crack pipes, chopped the lines and stuffed the smaller money bags… like you say..

    ‘pop’ did most of the ‘heavy lifting’.. pallets of cash, air lifted by CIA whirly-birds and that sort of thing.

  97. Rurik says:
    @Schuetze

    Perhaps Russia has a Sampson option, and perhaps it will go nuclear, perhaps the US does too, but I don’t want me or my grand children to be around afterwards if that is what happens

    if the fiend is able to destroy all resistance to its total and absolute power over the planet, then what I’d expect is a kind of global concentration camp, run by a million Salomon Morels, all exacting vengeance for ‘two thousand years of poisecution’.

    Old Testament genocidal supremacism unleashed.

    Today, even in Gaza and the West Bank, they’re careful of public opinion and global reaction to their cruelty. But once there’s no one on the planet to hold them to any kind of account, then their sadism will know no bounds.

    I’ve always been stuck by the methods used during the Holodomor, or at Dresden and elsewhere. Even at Waco, TX, when some Americans decided to thumb their noses at ZOG.

    If they had their druthers, I would expect them to castrate every white, Christian male, and then unleash the orcs on the women. Once that party had run its course, then I’d expect the mass-starvations to kick in. Nothing like watching the anti-Semites slowly and excruciatingly starve to death, as they watch with helpless pleas- to an entity devoid of any shred of compassion, their loved ones and children also starve to death.

    They’d be the lucky ones, because the survivors would surely know a cruelty that is beyond human reason. The unique capacity for Jewish hatred is something I’ve tried, but am ultimately unable to comprehend. It’s enough for me to know it is not of this world. Something from Satan’s bowels, and then some.

    Salomon Morel would select Germans and Poles to be drowned or die slowly in a vat of freezing sewage. When he wasn’t arbitrarily beating them to death, or otherwise torturing and starving women and children. And this fiend was given sanctuary in Israel, as a Jew in good standing.

    The reason we can all be certain that Jewish supremacists approve of what Mona Nelson did, is because no one has ever heard of her. Any why, because Mona, (as they see it), isn’t guilty of anything. All she did was kill yet another budding and aspiring white supremacist. And for that, they laud her with their collective silence. As they do all POC who butcher ‘anti-Semites’ (white people), like Channan Christian, and thousands upon thousands of others.

    When you come to realize that these crimes are approved of, like the Wichita massacre, because they’re never mentioned in the Jewish media, then, haltingly, you slowly begin to grasp just how much they hate your white guts with- a netherworld, genocidal and murderous insanity.

    Yes

    And it is because of what I’ve come to understand about their nature and their motivating principles, that I believe almost anything would be preferable to existing in a world where their unique appetites and nature are unleashed on the planet’s people with Talmudic ferocity.

    The quality and sophistication of all Russian manufactured wares lag far behind Germany, Japan and Korea, all who would be on the same side as Ukraine in this conflict .

    That’s because Germany (like so many others) is Zion’s bitch. The prominent nation who isn’t, (in spite of everyone’s silly insistence that Putin is just another Jew), is Russia. Which is why it’s Russia that is being menaced 24/7 by Zion’s dogs; the ZUSA, England, France, Ukraine and Germany as well as soon as it’s given its marching orders by Zion.

    If this whole brouhaha comes down to another case of Russia having to give a spanking to yet another Zio-stooge, then fine.

    But if it escalates into a wider war, that could engulf the entire region, bringing Russia to war with ((Europe/NATO)), then I’d just hope that Putin and Lavrov have make it clear who the first places to get nuked will be, (all the way down to those sites in Patagonia, if need be) if it ever looks like Russia’s sovereignty is actually threatened.

    And it isn’t just for Russia that I hope that. It’s for the rest of us.

    • Agree: hillaire, Robjil
    • Replies: @Schuetze
  98. @ADKC

    Crimea isn’t Russian territory,it’s an occupied part of another sovereign state which Russia invaded

    Why is that so difficult to understand?????

    Why doesn’t Escobar understand that its not acceptable to Ukraine to have its sovereign integrity violated by Russia?

    Why can’t Esconbar understand that theres absolutely no future for Crimea as things stand,apart from anything the place is becoming bone dry,so nothing more than a desiccated overblown military base for pimply Russian conscripts

    This isn’t some big win,up yours America kind of thing,thats just childish anti western/ American/ NATO blather from Escobar not honest even handed journalism,why this guy gets a free pass as some sort of geo political expert is beyond me

    Look at what he wrote in this daft article,Russia won’t invade Ukraine,well if you hadn’t already noticed,Pepe darling,they already have,thats why 30,000 Russian troops are now in Crimea!

    • Disagree: GomezAdddams, Ukraine Tiger
    • LOL: Alfred
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Aedib
    , @EugeneGur
  99. Levtraro says:
    @Majority of One

    A modest, semi-autonomous nation-state centered on Kiev might be the best ultimate solution to the present situation. It would not be a “puppet” regime, as Levtraro speculates, rather a fraternal society which shares much history, religion and social values with Russia.

    Probably not a puppet regime, a fraternal Slav society would be nice indeed, and the historical context you lay out is very informative and conducive in that direction. But my many Russian friends, for much that I love and respect them, don’t speak very fraternally about the Ukraine and Ukrainians.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  100. US secretary of defence Lloyd Austin, who rose through the ranks of the military by color not ability and upon retiring, was given another series of affirmative action appointments on company boards including Raytheon. Now he’s Biden’s Secretary of Defence, what a joke. Someone who looks like the dictator of Burundi and probably has a brain to match making decisions about the US going to war. The US has sunk lower than the keel of a garbage scow.

  101. Levtraro says:
    @Schuetze

    I don’t know what to make of you. You speak with respect about Franco’s betrayal of Germany because it was the “smart” thing to do to appease the Jews. So if you are smart, you should grovel in front of the Jews, you should lick their boots and say thank you. That is, going by your logic.

    • Replies: @John Q Duped
  102. Schuetze says:
    @Rurik

    Both the Kaiser and Hitler made multiple offers of peace during WWI and WWII. All were rejected by Judea. Judea wanted war. This is exactly how it will be if this war for Crimea breaks out. We must also recognize that the Rothschilds had England and France fighting a war in Crimea in 1856 against their biggest foe, Tsar Alexander. In the end Russia backed down and gave up control of Crimea. This is one reason the Tsar offered support to Lincoln and harbored his fleet in San Francisco and New York during the US civil war. In short, I don’t think Putin, just like the Tsar before him, will escalate after Judea enters the fray.

    The real struggle over control of the goyim is going on with the Food Revolution and the great reset. Ice Age farmer has been producing a steady stream of video’s about the judaic take over of food production across the planet. The take over is going step by step across the entire planet. In this one the farmer talks about Croatia and how they are making it illegal for farmers to grow their own seed:

    Here is a longer, even more depressing video about how critical “zero carbon” and agenda 2030 is to the take over:

    • Replies: @Rurik
  103. @AH14

    “mossad and kgb are the same thing”

    If this is true and we know that the CIA and Mossad are joined at the hip, what’s all the threat of war? Two branches of the Mossad fighting against each other.

  104. Agent76 says:

    Aug 10, 2020 Nord Stream 2 final stretch & Russia-Cyprus try to mend fences

    Apr 4, 2019 NATO EXIT: Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

    NATO is a criminal entity, an instrument of the Pentagon. There is no “Alliance”. There is military Occupation.

  105. Where is the world going?
    1) First, we will see the return of Russia (Daniel 11:29a). This means strengthening Russia’s position and a significant weakening of the United States. Russia will again have military bases outside the country. Furthermore, it also means crisis, which will eclipse the Great Depression. Not only the eurozone will break up, but also the European Union and NATO. Then, also, many countries of the former Eastern block will return to a military alliance with Russia.
    2) Then there will be a global nuclear war. (Numbers 24:23, 24; Isaiah 5:24, 25; Luke 21:10, 11; Revelation 6:4)
    The detonator will be the ethnic conflict to the south of Russia’s borders. In the Book of Daniel, we read, “and [the king of the north] will enter into the south, but it will not be as the former [2008 – Georgia] or as the latter [Ukraine], for the dwellers of coastlands of Kittim [the distant West, to be precise – Americans] will come against him, and (he) will break down [will lose hope], and will go back.” (11:29b, 30a)
    Jesus stated: “All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.” (Matthew 24:7, 8)
    3) Long after that, there will be “trampling of Jerusalem” = lasting 42 months, the great tribulation of Christian minorities. (Daniel 11:31a; Luke 21:24b; Revelation 11:2)
    4) Immediately afterwards there will be designation of the “abomination of desolation” = the world government (Daniel 11:31b; 12:11). The book of Revelation calls it “the beast”. (13:1, 2, 7)
    5) The future leader of Russia (who will rule on the model of Alexander the Great) will perfectly prepare the army for the next world war, he will not spare the means to create new, previously unknown weapons (Daniel 11:36-39). Russia will triumph this time. (Daniel 11:40-43). This will be the last world war.
    6) Then the rulers will give their power and strength unto “the beast”. (Revelation 17:13, 17)
    7) The world government [“the beast”] will destroy the great Christian churches. (Revelation 17:16)
    These are just some of the biblical prophecies.

    • Thanks: Agent76
  106. Anon[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Perhaps Putin has infiltrated a massive number of Russian special forces in and around Kiev during the past 7 years of apparent stalemate and the first thing they will do when Zelensky releases the hounds in Donbass is to capture his entire national government and offer a deal the reptiles cannot refuse. Something like independence/home rule for all the ethnically Russian oblasts would work, expulsion of all the US/NATO vultures from the entire country, seizure of all their weapons and serious gulag time for all the neonazi militia unless they flee to North America never to return. It’s a good deal, they’d find the US & Canada to be wonderlands for armed fascists and plenty of action v the likes of Antifa and BLM.

  107. @AH14

    ” US military is still fairly competent ”

    I don’t know what weed you’re smoking but it has really scrambled your brains. The ability to show up on the parade grounds and go around the world showing fancy overpriced toys does not equate to fighting ability. The US hasn’t faced a real army in a conventional war since Vietnam. The US is great at fighting banana republics, but if facing a real military like Russia (who believe me have all the drones that the US has and the ability to neutralize those of the enemy) would run for their safe spaces and hide.

  108. Avery says:
    @alwayswrite

    {“Why is that so difficult to understand?????”}

    It is difficult to understand because there is nothing to understand: it is difficult to understand nonsense.

    Fact1: while USSR was intact, Soviet dictator Khrushchev took Crimea from Russian SSR and “gifted” it to Ukraine SSR in 1954. What residents of Crimea wanted did not matter. And since it was “One Big happy Soviet Family” people of Crimea went along.

    Fact2: as the USSR was crumbling, in Jan 1991 residents of Crimea voted overwhelmingly ~90% to restore autonomy which they had before (Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic). Their vote was ignored by Kiev.

    Fact3: in 1994 residents of Crimea voted overwhelmingly ~80% to secede from independent Ukraine. Ukraine ignored the popular vote.

    After the illegal SorosaGlobo sponsored coup in Kiev, the UkroNazis were let loose and started harassing, disenfranchising, and finally massacring ethnic Russians of Ukraine (e.g. Odessa massacres). Crimea’s majority Russian residents, not wanting to be ethnically cleansed and/or exterminated, chose to join Russia.

    Crimea was never a part of any independent Ukraine.
    Under USSR constitution, peoples of Autonomous Regions/Republics had the legal right to secede from the given SSR they were attached to. Furthermore, once USSR dissolved, any legal basis for a given (former) SSR to have sway on the given Autonomous Soviet Republic ended.

    In fact most of original Ukraine was artificially “fattened up” by various Russian and Soviet leaders.
    [Territories Annexed to Ukraine]
    https://external-preview.redd.it/Ac69B2pvCGyFG9VcPAlyC-7dqI5V3h33vqf2URyOvGo.jpg?width=927&height=485.340314136&auto=webp&s=063b7385b544833a187844f9e198422bfb3ddab7

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
    , @Alfred
  109. Herald says:
    @Miro23

    They won’t have any problem with the UK (their most slavish follower) but at some point the French and Germans are surely going to become tired of all this CIA/Neo-con BS.

    Merkel and Macron know just what the US is playing at. If the Ukraine does get the deserved thrashing, that it is literally begging for, then of course there will be German and French knee jerk condemnations along with the ritual imposition of token sanctions. However this dangerous episode, will likely harden the resolve of both countries to escape the grip of the flailing hegemon, which is now in its death throes. So perhaps in the slightly longer term, the whole episode will backfire on the US and big time at that.

    Russia might feel that war in Ukraine is inevitable and perhaps it would be better now, rather than later.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  110. Aedib says:
    @alwayswrite

    Crimea is Russian territory because Crimeans decided to be Russians. Period.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  111. @Levtraro

    As a composite culture, the Ukrainian people suffer from an acute generalized case of PTSD. One cannot fault them for that fear-based derangement. First, there was the Khazarian-Bolshevik terror, roughly from 1917-21. Lives were destroyed. Lands were lost. Communities were broken up. The “mir” was no more.

    Second, the Holodomor, where Lazar Kaganovich, henchman to Stalin, but with an agenda of his own, had his troops and secret-police agents seize essentially ALL the food stocks from perhaps 2 million peasant families, resulting in death by starvation for multi-millions.

    Thirdly, the heaviest battles in the Second World War were mostly fought in Ukraine. Again, the death totals of the civilian population were huge. The land was ravaged. Essentially the entire population were deeply traumatized.

    Consequently one should not wonder that to the average Russian Ukrainians appear to be dazed and dumbed-down. So next time you see your Russian friends, kindly remind them that their brethren to the south and west should be regarded and treated with considerable compassion.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
  112. Fred777 says:
    @Rurik

    Putin has already warned that if Russia isn’t going to exist there is no reason for any other country to exist.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  113. @Avery

    Someone else living in the past

    But hey if you want to play that game it historically was Tartar land,who had it taken from them by Russian imperialism,under that fat slag,Catherine the Great,who was ironically not even Russian,but a Prussian,but then the Russians seem to like being led by foreigners after all the monster Stalin was from Georgia 😂😂😂😂

    And it was during the Stalinist beast time that all Tartars were forcibly deported,smashing eh!

    So please spare me your pro kremlim shill propaganda trash,Crimea has been nothing more than a Russian imperial play thing for centuries,not that it’ll do the putler dwarf monster much good

    So let him walk into his self induced bear trap,it’ll take Russia down,and yes the west will sit back and do very little,it’ll be another Afghanistan for Russia,with the same outcome for Putin and his cess pit oligarchy criminal regime

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  114. Even if Russia is strong a major conflict is dangerous and hazardous for everyone, including Russia.

    • Replies: @Herald
  115. @alwayswrite

    Always Wrong. Your idiocy almost overwhelms my senses.

    Do you comprehend ANYTHING about the history of Crimea? Within the context of the USSR, Ukrainian born Nikita S. Khrushchev administratively “donated” Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR. Ukies, at the time of the coup which overthrew the legitimate, elected government of that sad land, made up only 15% of the population of that peninsula. Russians made up well over half . So you stand for an illegitimate government which wanted to seize Crimea so the Evil Empire could base their navy there and also missiles to target Russia’s “soft underbelly”?

    People who live in the glass houses of their own fantasy perspectives should not start throwing stones. They might get rocked in the process and their heads might roll down the slopes of reality.

    • Agree: Aedib
  116. @Aedib

    You mean colonists

    The Russians in Crimea are an imposition

    A colony shipped in to take over from those who it rightfully belongs,the Crimean Tartars,not Russians

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @Aedib
  117. Rurik says:
    @Schuetze

    The real struggle over control of the goyim is going on with the Food Revolution and the great reset

    I remember once reading why they enjoyed using starvation as a method of genocide.

    It’s humiliating, it’s excruciating and it’s cheap!

    But not only that, it’s slow.

    You get to watch the anti-Semites die a little bit, day by day. You get to watch them experience the worst kind of agony known to man, that of being forced to watch your children die in front of your eyes, pleading for relief from the pain, and being unable to provide it.

    They could have simply shot them, but instead they wanted to see them suffer. Par for the course, for everything I’ve come to understand about these people.

    If anyone doubt if they’d want to do the same to us, simply look at how they’ve been using their media to condemn, in the mass-starvation campaign in Yemen. I think that’s all we’ve been hearing about on CNN, and MSNBC and the NYT keeps it on the front pages along with the BBC and all the rest of the Jewish media.

    If there’s something they don’t like, (Trump’s presidency, Putin, ‘insurrection’ at the capital), then it’s what you hear about screeching from their orifices 24/7. Right now it’s the effects of ‘systemic racism’ with white cops murdering black men all across this nation, simply because they’re black.

    This (Saint Floyd) is a story they want told, and so you hear about it. They care about (non-existent) white racism, because that’s what lynched Leo Frank. And led to the ‘holocaust’, and if it isn’t nipped in the bud, (whitey disenfranchised for all time), then who knows where it could lead.

    Consider.. everyone know Leo Frank was guilty, but they didn’t care. It’s like the previously mentioned Salomon Morel. Monsters who rape and murder defenseless Gentiles, but for Jewish supremacists, that’s not a crime. If anything, it’s a kosher badge to be proud of and flaunted.

    What Gentile would want a man who rapes and murders a thirteen year old girl to be exonerated?

    None that I know of, or would want to. But for these unique people, such a thing is a trifle, and certainly nothing a Jew should be punished for.

    From Leo Frank to Larry Silverstein, (both considered Jews in good standing by Israel and Jewish supremacist Inc.), we get a glimpse of these people’s nature. And as they consolidate food production under their nefarious control, as they have our governments, and universities and courts and media and so forth, we should be very, very concerned.

    If it looks like they’re going to prevail over Russia, and the last remaining bastion of strength to oppose their absolute power over all of us, then I just hope Putin is keeping the button in close reach.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Schuetze
  118. Realist says:
    @Marckus

    Agreed it does seem like Ground Hog Day. The articles become a blur of the same bullshit.

  119. TG says:

    But it’s not going to be ALL the fault of “Russian Aggression.”

    There is always ‘white supremacy’ to blame!

  120. @alwayswrite

    The Terrible Tatars were invaders who rode into Crimea with the Mongol Hordes and terrified, tortured and enslaved its inhabitants. They never had any moral right to the land. However, some of them have tamed down and currently make up some 12-15% of the peninsula’s population.

    FUCK the “West”. These are all Zionist occupied governments who by no means represent the majority of their people. They have no moral right to shit, particularly not the right to overthrow legitimate, elected governments as they did at Maidan in 2014. They were also guilty of destroying the most population-friendly government in all of Africa when they murdered Libya’s ruler Moammar Gaddhafi, destroyed that land’s infrastructure, seized Libya’s massive gold-reserves and turned the place into a failed-state. Then we turn to Yugoslavia, which they tore apart and the turned on the Serbs, the most pro-allied country in the Balkans during WWII, bombing their cities and destroying their infrastructure. The same treatment was applied in Iraq, which possessed ZERO “weapons of mass destruction”. Finally their onslaught against the government and people of Syria by supporting bloodthirsty Takfiri and Salafist Islamist mercenaries and also adding some bombing and missile strikes against that nation.

    You blather like some high-school student high on video games, or some AriFarce NCO who’s been fed a trough-full of propaganda. Grow up. Wake up…or quit making a fool outta yourself.

    • Agree: Robjil, Rurik
  121. Rurik says:
    @Fred777

    I agree.

    But Mr. Escobar has politely let me know that I’ve been fulminating too much over the people I’m convinced are behind every bit of the Ukrainian – Russian contrived hostilities.

    So I’ll desist from further railing on it, out of courtesy to the author of this piece.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  122. @Zarathustra

    The thought of Odessa, in particular, in the hands of Ukronazi orcs, is abominable, particularly given the massacre there by the orcs on 2 May 2014, which the Wikipedia vermin have the filthy audacity to call ‘clashes’.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  123. @alwayswrite

    The Russians have been there for over 300 years. Your argument is pure revanchist clap-trap. I rather think that the Scythians need to be re-installed. Where have they gone?

  124. @Herald

    The real centre of control in France and Germany are the Zionazis. Neither country can conceivably break free from that locus of power and influence, centred in the media, finance and political bribery.

    • Agree: Herald
  125. @Levtraro

    His logic is fine. Guess your brain just can’t figure that out.

  126. notamason says:

    There surely are plenty of fools in the world ready to create havoc.

  127. frontier says:
    @Alfred

    Propaganda really works.

    It works both ways, that’s what liberation is for.

  128. Aedib says:
    @alwayswrite

    So, give back Gibraltar to Spain and Malvinas to Argentina.

    • Replies: @Joe Paluka
  129. Herald says:
    @Christophe GJ

    Even if Russia is strong a major conflict is dangerous and hazardous for everyone, including Russia.

    Yes, very true and Russia knows that as well or likely better than most. However, there may be a time when the risks of doing nothing, outweigh all other considerations. That time might not be too far away.

  130. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Schuetze

    Lol and as they say shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up the quickest…

  131. Darrell says:

    Since over 95% of the citizens of Crimea wanted to be part of Russia, any attempt to take it back by Ukraine must just be part of the plans of the “usual suspects” to create as much conflict, death, and destruction as possible there (and everywhere else) in their quest for a one world government and diabolical NWO with universal enslavement for those not killed off by the “vaccine” (see Dr Sherri Tenpenny) or other means.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  132. niceland says:

    The situation is primarily bad for the people of Ukraine.

    Before the upheaval in 2016 I remember reading news about deep political divide in the country and weird politics.

    It seems the country has deep internal conflicts, and both the west and Russia are meddling in it’s internal affairs. It seems normal that Russia is concerned for obvious reasons, with it’s neighbor, harboring part of it’s own population, and critical area in it’s own defense.

    The “west” on the other hand doesn’t have these reasons. The “west” isn’t threatened in any way even if Russia takes over Ukraine. It looks like it’s using Ukraine as a club to hammer Russia. When Victoria Nuland (fuck the EU) and John McCain (bless his heart) show up in Ukraine and blather about democracy and freedom you know something is up. And the well being of the Ukraine people isn’t high on the agenda. Something else is.

    We have seen the uptick in negative news, and what certainly looks like propaganda in the western MSM towards Russia in recent years. Skripal case, Navalny case, chemical weapons in Syria nonsense, Nord stream 2 gas pipeline. It doesn’t look promising.

    My take on the situation is Russia is in defense. The “west” is the aggressor and Ukraine will be the victim.

    Overall, the U.S. with their European vassals are responsible. According to the Nuremberg standard they are engaging in the gravest of war crimes – to start a war.

    But perhaps the situation isn’t as serious as we think. It’s a proven fight tactic to play “nuts”, without reason and logic, and then wait for your opponent to react to your craziness and make mistakes. From the looks of it – this is something the U.S could be doing deliberately. But perhaps that’s just a wishful thinking. More and more it looks like the U.S. gov is indeed just nuts.

    • Thanks: Rurik
  133. @Aedib

    Spain has a legitimate claim to Gibraltar but Britain occupied the Falkland Islands before Argentina existed as a nation.

    • Replies: @Aedib
  134. Blade says:
    @BorisMay

    Hahahahah invasion of Turkey and permanent Russian occupation of Istanbul. When was the last time Russians occupied Istanbul? Zero times, never. When was the last time Turks invaded Moscow, many many times. No single country has the ability to invade Istanbul and fight 18 million Turks who will instantly grow mustaches and turn into soldiers in such event. At this rate only thing that will happen is Black Sea turning into a NATO sea.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  135. @Darrell

    There is nothing that Ukronazi orcs like more than killing Russian ‘Coloradoes’ ie beetles, other than murdering Poles and Jews, that is. If the orcs ever retook Crimea, Russian resistance would lead to abominable atrocities.

  136. tgordon says:
    @Majority of One

    Thank you for releasing me from the rathole of Scheutze’s comments which I’ve been stupid enough to pursue for the last fifteen minutes. Immediately prior to your comment I thought, ” I give up, time to simply skip anything by this Scheutze and find my way back to the previously scheduled program.” Thanks for validating my suspicion.

  137. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Garliv

    If you were working for a state facility anywhere in midwest , you would be asked to complete certain mandatory tasks each year . One of these tasks as learning module includes that the employee will have no business relation with any vendor currently and shouldn’t have any within 2 years before joining orator leaving the job. This is more fine tuned and extensive in scope for any administrator.
    People get fired for using envelope or pencil or paper or phone or computer or printer for any kind of personal use at federal facility.

  138. The Zelensky regime is hostage to the Ukranazis. At this point Zelensky has painted himself into a corner. He can’t step back and withdraw forces without getting Maidaned and maybe lynched by the Nazis. He can’t attack without triggering a Russian intervention that would wipe out his regime (even if the Russians don’t go to Kiev and overthrow him, the Nazis will). His only hope is to get NATOstani troops in Ukraine to serve as human shields against Russia. Good luck with that.

    By the way, the Ukranazis were literally flying the Swastika flag when Zelensky came visiting the front line.

    https://www.donbass-insider.com/2021/04/08/donbass-zelensky-was-on-ukrainian-positions-under-wehrmacht-flag-of-nazi-germany/

    Shows what they think of him, really.

  139. @MLK

    Who will protect Germany against the US, and the UK, and “israel”?
    Predations or depredations? I never know.

  140. @Blade

    If Russia, combined with Iran, wanted to play snooker with “Sultan” Erdogan, they would stealthily support Turkish Kurds, so long as they behaved themselves and did not evince any problems for Iran, Iraq or Syria. Conjointly, perhaps the Chinese would delight in providing financial support for the Turkish-occupied Kurds, who could keep Erdogan’s forces so occupied that they could not foment trouble elsewhere, as in Nagorno-Karabakh, for example.

    Cooperating with the Syrian government, they could outflank both the Turks and the Evil Empire by aerially backstopping Syrian forces in sending detachments to their original border stations with Turkey from the Iraqi border all the way up the Euphrates valley to their northwestern border with the Erdogan regime’s border. Without stepping one millimeter onto Turkish soil, simply supplying air cover to Syrian efforts to secure their own borders, not only would Erdogan be obliged to shit or get off the pot, but also the Evil Empire would be stymied from stealing Syrian oil and wheat and supplying the Islamist terrorists attacking that beleaguered nation.

    Erdogan is an Islamist Muslim-Brotherhood pig. He needs to face battles of attrition all along his fantasized Neo-Ottoman empire.

    • Replies: @Blade
  141. @Schuetze

    What a wonderful scenario! Just keep shooting at the target and it never shoots back. Next time I play chess against a Russian, I’ll win!

  142. Seraphim says:
    @alwayswrite

    Crimea was Byzantine Christian-Orthodox territory where Saint Vladimir received the Baptism, not from the Tartars to be sure. The Tartars don’t show up until 15th century. The Byzantine Principalities of Theodoro-Mangop and Perateia, parts of the Trebizond Empire, survived until the Ottoman conquest. Part of the population fled to Russia.
    Practically Russia, as successor of the Byzantine Empire recovered parts its former territories, Crimea among them, gaining the right of protecting all Christian subjects of the Ottoman Empire. Ottomans renounced their rights to protect the Crimean Tartars.
    The man behind the annexation of Crimea by the ‘Prussian lump’ was Prince Grigory Aleksandrovich Potemkin-Tauricheski, Russian to boot and practically the real ruler of Russia.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Blade
  143. Schuetze says:
    @Rurik

    Genocide by starvation is just one facet of their campaign of population reduction. The “climate crisis” is another distraction used to justify their population reduction/genocide policies. Sacrificing economic growth on the altar of zero carbon will lead to the death of untold millions, with the side benefit of chaos, revolution and civil war.

    Of course the elephant in the middle of the room is the “pandemic”. Clearly Fauci was involved in the gain of function research and release in Wuhan. Already millions have died through the side effect of the plandemic like the lack of medical care due to the shut down of the medical system. The Dutch doctor de Bossch is warning that vaccines will release an “uncontrollable monster”. Robert Kennedy Junior has been saying the same thing. Now Pfizer Vice President and Chief Science Officer Dr. Mike Yeadon has come out and stated that it is ‘Entirely possible this will be used for massive-scale depopulation’.

    So the yid narrative is starting to flounder, and the stupid goyim have not yet been vaccinated and the campaign for world wide starvation is not yet out of the gates. The financial system is teetering on the brink of collapse before all these other dominoes are set up correctly.

    This is why a war in one part of the planet or another is necessary and becoming inevitable. Meanwhile autistic Russian trolls obsessed with one and only one thing, Nazis ready to invade “Mother Russia” in Operation Barbarossa V2.0, seem to be unable to even start to comprehend that this planetary crisis is about far more than a “Muh Russia” sword fight with Ukraine.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  144. Anonymous[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Why would you do that? Since when is Escobar your political commissar?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  145. @padre

    You mean the whole world, don’t you.

  146. @Rurik

    At least the guy in the back looks affronted by his colleagues’ thuggery.

  147. @Alfred

    The genocide of Galician Poles from 1943-4 was only halted by the Red Army. Today the Ukronazi orc regime in Kiev has passed laws criminalising mention of that genocide, while the priest-ridden paedo paradise of Poland has passed laws criminalising denial of the genocide. Such is the ‘Free World’.

  148. @Vojkan

    Well, nobody mentions it here, so I probably should. Zelensky’s back is against the wall by the so-called “Wagnergate” – a threat by MI6-backed Bellingcat to publish a documentary film denouncing treason (“zrada”) in the highest echelons of Ukrainian power. The release has been scheduled for March 15, and then postponed when Zelensky went bellicose. The current release date is April 30, meaning the war must start before that or else the film will be released.

    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
  149. @niceland

    Agree with high respect.

    • Thanks: niceland
  150. @Schuetze

    Climate crisis did not even started and starvation is still hundreds of years away in the future.
    But one thing is certain. More than 95% of humanity including flora and fauna will perish.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  151. Read this, posted by (by not authored by) Russell Bonner Bentley in Donetsk:

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10225086781979600&id=1320094225

    Again and again I’ve said that the Donbass armies were stopped by the Putinist regime from taking Slovyansk and Mariupol. Here they agree with me. The Putin worshippers like the Faker keep claiming that it was the Donbass forces themselves who stopped because of the “threat of being surrounded.”

    Rubbish.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  152. @Old and Grumpy

    It was again those women –they find Hunter Biden irresistible. Remember when Amtrak ( Joe) said his son (Hunter) was being targeted by Russian women? This was shortly after Hunter returned from Ukraine working as coffee boy for Dmitry Firtash –at big coin? Then Hunter returned to USA and had his daddy claim Hunter was being targeted. Then his brother Beau died and Hunter had affair with his sister in law and then there was the Arkansas stripper who now has son sired by Hunter. Hunter was likewise doing crack and paid another pro 25 grand at motel in Jersey? However , Hunter resides at apartment at 6,000 per month and again—-like all the others –he now writes a book which will sell like hotcakes……..me and Morticia are going to read it and have our Porshenko chocolates —–personally if something happens to Bill Clinton–I really hope it will then be Hunter and Hillary !!!

  153. Alfred says:

    Here is an article explaining how Ukraine has been falling apart for a long time. Railway lines that were in existence for almost a century are being abolished. The line along the south coast connecting all these Russian-speaking provinces is being given the 1000 cuts treatment. But the same applies in Moldova – another failed state.

    You can be sure that if the Russians were in control, all of this would be repaired.

    Ukraine – Railways no longer unite the country

    • Replies: @GMC
  154. El Dato says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Should not only have stopped them but made sure they don’t come back, ever. Who cares if Bellingcat and NATO gitterati gets their knickers into a twist.

    At this point in time, there should be no incertitude about what happens if Ukraine wages war in the eastern region.

    Also:

    which could be a lovely euphemism for a possible transfer of jihadis from Libya and Syria to fight Russian infidels in Donbass

    If that is true, the whole Ukraine regime should be decapitated. Literally.

  155. @Schuetze

    This is why a war in one part of the planet or another is necessary and becoming inevitable. Meanwhile autistic Russian trolls obsessed with one and only one thing, Nazis ready to invade “Mother Russia” in Operation Barbarossa V2.0, seem to be unable to even start to comprehend that this planetary crisis is about far more than a “Muh Russia” sword fight with Ukraine.

    You nailed it my man.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  156. Aedib says:
    @Joe Paluka

    So do Russia. It took Crimea before Ukraine existed as a nation (1991). Ukraine’s claims about Crimea are groundless.

  157. AP says:
    @Alfred

    Congratulations on demonstrating that you believe whatever nonsense you find on the internet.

    • Disagree: GMC
    • Replies: @Avery
  158. Rurik says:
    @Schuetze

    Now Pfizer Vice President and Chief Science Officer Dr. Mike Yeadon has come out and stated that it is ‘Entirely possible this will be used for massive-scale depopulation’

    I agree with your general outline.

    Only I’m not sure if they want a “massive-scale depopulation”. From everything I’ve seen, they want surplus populations for various reasons. Most of them economic, but they’re also obviously interested in replacing the dwindling (on their own) people of the West, with super-prolific non-Westerners. If the PTB wanted to depopulate, then all they’d have to do is stop the migrations from the exploding numbers in the Third World- into the West. By doing so, the West would reduce its numbers naturally, and the Third World would be forced, like China, to take steps to control its bursting populations without the release valve of immigration into the West.

    But instead they demand massive migrations of people whose only talent is fecundity, into the West. So it looks to me like the plandemic is about something else entirely. And based on everything I know about human nature, I’d say I’m about 99.999% certain that their agenda is about power and control. Ultimately, total power and total control.

    The other day there was a Climate Justice expert on NPR explaining that one billion people in the U.S. should be something to celebrate, so long as they’re all properly controlled with Climate justice programming and so on. I suspect that if you were to ask your typical Climate Justice expert, if he wanted England to look like the British countryside, as it has looked for centuries, with farms and beautiful rural landscapes as far as the eye could see, or, would he prefer that the whole of England look like one massive London, with teeming throngs of social and Climate Justice diversity and progressive social programming, I think we all know what they’d prefer, even if it meant the death of every last blade of grass or remaining wildlife. Who needs those things when you have Social and Climate Justice?

    The financial system is teetering on the brink of collapse before all these other dominoes are set up correctly.

    This is why a war in one part of the planet or another is necessary and becoming inevitable. Meanwhile autistic Russian trolls obsessed with one and only one thing, Nazis ready to invade “Mother Russia” in Operation Barbarossa V2.0, seem to be unable to even start to comprehend that this planetary crisis is about far more than a “Muh Russia” sword fight with Ukraine.

    For decades I’ve been vexed and disheartened over the intractable hostilities between those who understand the existential threat to Germany in the 1930s, and those (especially Slavs) who suffered due to the war. A war that I consider was forced upon Germany by The Whores of Judea. (Perfidious, Bolshevik Russia and others..) Because Germany was yanking out the Zio-fangs that had been deep in its jugular for decades.

    I’ve kind of given up on trying to get a Slavic person to accept that Russia at that time was a threat to everyone. And Germany was the ultimate prize for ((commie subjugation)).

    It goes too deep into the Slavic consciousness, that National Socialist Germany invaded their countries and killed a lot of their people. There’s no room for nuance there. ‘Nazis were evil and my grandfather died and they can go fuck themselves, blah, blah, blah..’

    But now the tables are turned. Now it’s Russia that is being menaced by the tribe. Germany is now an occupied vassal of Judea, (as are England, France, the ZUS and so many others..).

    So what I’d hope for now, is that we can all agree, (finally), that aside from everyone’s respective WWII narrative, we are all being menaced by the current drive to WWIII.

    And that Germany, Russia, Ukraine, (the people, not the (((government))), England, all Slavic nations, and all Western and Scandinavian peoples and every single person of decency on the planet, must all repudiate what’s going on in Ukraine right now.

    Russia in this case is in the right. Russia is no longer a Soviet menace to its neighbors. Hardly. Quite the contrary in fact, as it’s Russia that stands more or less alone as the voice of sanity and reason, on a planet descending into zio-madness. With Climate Justice combined with demands for all Western nations to open their borders to infinite numbers of billions of super-prolific, stone-age invaders. Because we need Climate Justice!!

    God, I wish I was joking.

    Anyways, yes, the West is now clinically insane. They tell their children there’s no such thing as gender, and that all white Brits [redundant] (or Canadians, the French, etc..) are all congenitally evil and racist, blah, blah..

    But there’s one large and impossible to ignore nation, that is not acting that way. And just as Germany had heroically removed the shackles of Zion in the 1930s, today it’s Russia. And for that exact same reason, it’s Russia that is in their ((crosshairs)), and all the rest of us need to defend Russia as the last remaining bastion of sanity and Western reason and rationality.

    IMHO

  159. AP says:

    Significantly, these include the crack 76th Guards Air Assault Brigade, known as the Pskov paratroopers and, according to an intel report quoted to me, capable of taking Ukraine in only six hours.

    Lol. It took the US military about 3weeks to take Iraq but these Pskov paratrooper supermen would take Ukraine in about 6 hours.

    Even the pathetic 2014-2015 Ukrainian military managed to capture and kill a few Pskov paratroopers, when they were sent to Donbas (i.e., “accidentally crossed the border”).

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11056312/Russian-paratroopers-captured-in-Ukraine-accidentally-crossed-border.html

    Anti-American boomers desperately clinging to Russia will believe anything.

    Andrei Martyanov, one of the world’s top military analysts

    Lol. From what can be read publicly online, he graduated from a second tier military academy, served as a junior naval officer for a couple years, then right away moved to the USA where he didn’t use his background to work as, say, an engineer but instead tutored schoolchildren which is something grandfather immigrants do, not young ones like he was.

    He is certainly not unintelligent, and from the perspective of a western website the opinions of a Soviet military veteran are useful and somewhat exotic, but there are probably thousands of boomer veteran retired officers from the former USSR who could provide similar takes, he is not something brilliant.

    Serbian sniper Dejan Beric – whom I met in Donetsk in 2015 and who is a certified expert on the ground

    Also lol.

  160. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous

    Why would you do that?

    I’m a guest here on Mr. Unz site, and at times I’ve stretched my welcome.

    Since my ‘Agree, Disagree, etc..’ privileges have been returned, I suppose I’m still tolerated on this thread, so long as I don’t get to ranting and frothing too much.

    I don’t like to see my posts censored, as some authors have, but a gentle nod, (like removing ‘Agree’ privileges), seems like a harmless enough suggestion that my rants are a distraction to the author’s points. (as he sees them, and this is his article).

    But thank you, in any case.

  161. Avery says:
    @AP

    Prove it is nonsense by your own ‘facts’, if you can.

    Which part of it is nonsense, the fact that Nikita Khrushchev (illegally) transferred Crimea Autonomous Republic/Region from Russia SSR to Ukraine SSR, for example?

    [1954 transfer of Crimea]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_transfer_of_Crimea

    [The transfer of the Crimean Oblast in 1954 was an administrative action of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union, which transferred the government of the Crimean Peninsula from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian SSR.]

    • Replies: @AP
  162. Avery says:

    [Reject Nord Stream 2 Once and for All]
    [The pipeline puts Ukraine’s national security at serious risk.]
    (By Oleksii Reznikov April 8, 2021 6:37 pm ET)
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/reject-nord-stream-2-once-and-for-all-11617921459

    {Ukrainians therefore are bewildered by the continuing construction of the Baltic Sea pipeline, known as Nord Stream 2. Unlike the attack (so-called ‘attack’ (Avery)) on Crimea, which came as a surprise, the pipeline’s completion will have entirely predictable consequences for our national security. Ukraine will be irreparably weakened as soon as Russia has a new direct gas link to Germany.}

    Good: the sooner the better.

    So what this SorosStooge is arguing is that Russia is somehow obligated to keep paying these UkroNazi SorosaScum to keep their attacks on ethnic Russians of Ukraine, and to host NATO criminal warmongers to threaten the security of RF. These scum have clearly been infected by SorosaChutzpah: rape, steal, murder…..then blame the victims or your crimes.

  163. niceland @135

    “We have seen the uptick in negative news, and what certainly looks like propaganda in the western MSM towards Russia in recent years. Skripal case, Navalny case, chemical weapons in Syria nonsense, Nord stream 2 gas pipeline. It doesn’t look promising.

    My take on the situation is Russia is in defense. The “west” is the aggressor and Ukraine will be the victim.

    Overall, the U.S. with their European vassals are responsible. According to the Nuremberg standard they are engaging in the gravest of war crimes – to start a war.”

    Very well said!

  164. AP says:
    @Avery

    Crimea and the blue corner of Donetsk/Luhansk were the only factual parts of the map.

    As would be evident to anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of this place.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  165. @Zarathustra

    Have you really checked on what’s happening with the food supply? Maybe you wouldn’t be so sanguine if you understood how laws are being promulgated to get rid of animal farming totally, with insects and lab grown shit as the replacement.

    I suggest you check out and subscribe to the iceagefarmer channel on YouTube to get a handle on what’s being proposed. He gathers news from around the world but concentrates on the US concerning farming conditions, statistics and especially the insane legislation being considered.

    As an example, visit https://iceagefarmer.com/docs/AbsoluteZero.pdf to see what the UK has in mind. Pay particular attention to page 6 where they state their goals for food, road vehicles, rail and shipping (required for food). While you’re there, look at all the other categories and their implementation time frames to understand that the goal is a totalitarian state.

    Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.
    Henry Kissinger

    • Agree: Schuetze, Rurik, Realist
  166. JamesinNM says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Russia must support Syria and Crimea: no deals with the evil empire, none!

    • Agree: Robjil
  167. GMC says:
    @Alfred

    Agree – used to go to Kyiv from Simferopol and right past Запорожья we would catch air jordan in the dip of tracks – it was kinda fun but not when you are nappin on the top bunk lol Not to mention seeing the tracks when I flushed. But , honestly, had Ukraine stayed pro Russian , things would have improved and Ukraine would have been a great place for young people , backpackers and older folks -to see how life in rural Ukraine was. Fun !. There is nothing wrong with living the simple life, as long as things are improving and there is plenty of freedom to move around. Crimea was full of life during the Ukraine days – people from Ukraine, Moldova, Turks, Georgians, Belarus, Germany, Poland, British tour ships, and it was a melting pot of nationalities. Russia wants it to be like it was – they were part of it being a free port , a free place to enjoy. There were No problems. It was and still is Autonomous , and will stay that way, as soon as the West dries up and blows away – because the Americans had no clue this place even exited – until their military wanted it.

  168. Robjil says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    This is why a war in one part of the planet or another is necessary and becoming inevitable.

    Wars are only inevitable for Zion. Zion wants wars to control this planet.

    This Ukraine thing is all about Zion controlling US ukraine. Ukraine would be just an ordinary state if Zion was not involved.

    It is not about fantasies about WWII, Russians are dealing with real crazies of Zion on its borders.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  169. Schuetze says:
    @Rurik

    “Russia in this case is in the right. Russia is no longer a Soviet menace to its neighbors.”

    Tell that to Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania whose militaries are completely dwarfed by that of the Russian Empire. Poland too seems to be at least a little intimidated. Don’t forget Königsberg either. Plus Russia has been, shall we say, not very timid when it comes to demonstrations of her military prowess. Mix all of that together, and it could easily be said that Russia, and Putin, have been behaving like a bully.

    But I do agree that Russia is the aggrieved party here, Nato is completely out of line. If I was a Scandanavian I would consider Nato a bigger threat to peace than Russia.

    The key issue here, to me anyway, is that US, UK, EU, Nato, AND RUSSIA are all vassals to Israel. If Russia wants to prove her military might and independence from Heeb intimidation, then Russia should use some of those incredible S300/400/500 we keep hearing about to shoot down an Israel jet conducting war crimes (aggressive war) on Syria. But Russia just looks on, even as Israel conducts false flag chemical weapons attacks on Syria simultaneous to framing Russia for chemical weapons attacks on Russian dissidents. Russia is also supposedly an ally of Iran, but look how Russia, and Putin, cowardly look on as Israel bitch slaps Iran and Yemen.

    So judging by events and facts on the ground, I can only conclude that Russia, and Putin, are vassals to the Heeb. That is why I say that it is Israel who will decide who ultimately gets control of Crimea. Perhaps there will be some face saving gesture like “co-ownership” of certain ports or “airstrips”, but I would bet that Russia, and Putin, are going to be forced to make concessions.

  170. Robjil says:

    Tell that to Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania whose militaries are completely dwarfed by that of the Russian Empire.

    US Zion Empire dwarfs them too. It is the same one who created Bolshevik Revolution, WWI and WWII, the same type of people – Zion maniacs. Yet, all of them swoon over the Zion US empire.

    Look at the “free” Zion US press today, it ten times more insane then any press during the Soviet times.

    Russia is acting very carefully, it knows very well what Zion can do to any nation that back talks. China knows it too.

    If the US weakens a bit, then it is possible that back talk to Zion will be allowed on this planet again. US Zion is the main bully on this planet holding up Zion’s total control agenda. It attacks any nation that back talks to Zion.

  171. @Rurik

    Brilliant evaluation. But you do not need to worry trust in God. God has the plan and I can see it.

  172. @Robjil

    Just the briefest of brief histories of Ukraine, and why I would say they have a right to want to keep everybody the hell out of their country. Especially Mother Russia

    How did Ukraine break away?
    The first independent Ukrainian state was declared in Kiev in 1917, following the collapse of the Russian and Austro-Hungarian empires at the end of World War I. That independence was short-lived. The new country was invaded by Poland, and fought over by forces loyal to the czar and Moscow’s new Bolshevik government, which took power in Russia’s 1918 revolution. By the time Ukraine was incorporated into the Soviet Union in 1922, its economy was in tatters and its populace starving. Worse was to come. When Ukrainian peasants refused to join collective farms in the 1930s, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin orchestrated mass executions and a famine that killed up to 10 million people. Afterward, Stalin imported millions of Russians and other Soviet citizens to help repopulate the coal- and iron-ore-rich east. This mass migration, said former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Steven Pifer, helps explain why “the sense of Ukrainian nationalism is not as deep in the east as it is in the west.” World War II exacerbated this divide.

    What happened during the war?
    When the Nazis invaded Ukraine in 1941, many locals welcomed the Germans as liberators from the Soviets, and tens of thousands even fought alongside them, hoping Adolf Hitler would reward them with an independent state. Later, when the Nazis began using Ukrainians as slave labor, about 2.5 million fought for Stalin’s Red Army. The country became one of World War II’s bloodiest battlefields. At least 5.3 million Ukrainians died during the war — about one sixth of the population. About 2.25 million of those killed were Jews, targeted by both the Nazis and some Ukrainian collaborators. At the end of the war, Stalin deported tens of thousands of Ukrainians accused of cooperating with the Nazis to Siberian prison camps, and executed thousands more.

    https://theweek.com/articles/449691/ukraines-fraught-relationship-russia-brief-history

    “Russia without Ukraine is a country, Russia with Ukraine is an empire.” – Daniel Drezner, international politics professor at Tufts University.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  173. One thing that I haven’t seen mentioned is Elon Musk’s satellite program. He expects to put up over 12,000 satellites (now up to 40,000). No American could possibly do that without Deep State connivance of some kind.

    What it portends for the modern battlefield, I do not know. But, at any one, time thousands of potentially hostile satellites will be within range of Russia or any other country being targeted / encircled.

    I’m not sure how you would counter this type of dual-use technology. Probably the best would be for China to announce it will put up 60,000 satellites. ( five for each one Musk puts up)

    Only maybe the Chinese ones could have quantum capabilities.

    What Elon Musk’s 42,000 Starlink satellites could do for — and to — planet Earth

    https://www.businessinsider.com/how-elon-musk-42000-starlink-satellites-earth-effects-stars-2020-10?op=1

  174. gsjackson says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    I think this is the only time I’ve ever disagreed with you (and we agree on some things that are considered pretty far out even on Unz). Every word I’ve ever read for years that came from Putin’s lips has seemed to be nothing but good sense. I’ve come to think of him as the one same adult in an asylum taken over by the inmates. But I’m open to be convinced, and certainly respect any opinion you put forward. Can you point me in the direction of any source material on which you base your point of view?

  175. EugeneGur says:
    @alwayswrite

    Crimea isn’t Russian territory,it’s an occupied part of another sovereign state which Russia invaded

    Oh, our Ukrainian brother made a showing. And what state would that be exactly? Certainly not Ukraine. When what difference doe it make to you – none that I can see. Crimea is Russia as least as a winner’s prize but Ukraine has no claim whatsoever.

    Why doesn’t Escobar understand that its not acceptable to Ukraine to have its sovereign integrity violated by Russia?

    Ukraine has neither sovereignty nor integrity. It has to accept the situation it finds itself in for it can nothing about it.

    Why can’t Esconbar understand that theres absolutely no future for Crimea as things stand

    Crimea would have no future as a part of the failed state of Ukraine. Here, corrected this for you.

    Look at what he wrote in this daft article,Russia won’t invade Ukraine,well if you hadn’t already noticed,Pepe darling,they already have,thats why 30,000 Russian troops are now in Crimea!

    Why don’t you guys fight in Crimea then with the Russian Army instead of killing 4 years-olds in Donbass?

  176. @Joe Paluka

    The US has sunk lower than the keel of a garbage scow.

  177. @Rurik

    Why dont they give you a column?
    Pepe is a clown, he knows diddly.
    I would rather your analysis.
    With Prof. S. Cohen dead it is hard to get objectivity on Russia.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
    , @Rurik
  178. @niceland

    More and more it looks like the U.S. gov is indeed just nuts.
    — ——
    There is no U.S. gov just nuts. There was a Jew coup in Nov that was endorsed by the Supreme Court. It is official: Jews are in power in America. And boy are they terrified of the 75 million Real Americans. So afraid they have decided they are all white supremacist-domestic terrorists.
    If Putin were smart he would send greetings to all 50 Governors and offer them diplomatic recognition as well as direct appeals to real Americans. If our enemies are the same, Jewish Power, then why shouldnt we just cut out the middleman. The US feral govt is Zionist-Chabadnik host.
    Let us destroy it together VVP.
    Judaica delenda est.
    MC 110

  179. EugeneGur says:
    @Majority of One

    First, there was the Khazarian-Bolshevik terror, roughly from 1917-21. Lives were destroyed. Lands were lost. Communities were broken up. The “mir” was no more.

    The Revolution and the Civil War (which BTW was civil in the name only involving as usual the West and more besides) touched the entire country. There was fighting in the Volga region, which is the heart of Russia, in Siberia, in the Far East (occupied by the Japanese), in the Russian north (occupied by the US), in the Caucasus (occupied by the British), not just in Ukraine.

    Second, the Holodomor

    There was no such thing. There was hunger at a huge territory, yes, including parts of Ukraine, Russia, and Kazakhstan. Whatever caused that hunger, there was nothing specifically Ukrainian about it.

    Thirdly, the heaviest battles in the Second World War were mostly fought in Ukraine.

    Actually, none was. The battle for Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk – this is all Russia.

    Again, the death totals of the civilian population were huge.

    No more than in Leningrad, Stalingrad, or Sevastopol. Kiev was occupied, yes, but so was Crimea – longer than any other territory BTW – and so was Donbass. As you see, the results are entirely different.

    Not to mention that in post-war years Ukraine enjoyed a significantly higher level of prosperity than Russia, and not due to their own efforts but because it was heavily subsidized. It also emerged from the Soviet period with good infrastructure, industry and debt-free, for the collective Soviet debt was paid by Russia alone. Didn’t help them any, and not because they were deeply traumatized I assure you.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @AP
    , @canspeccy
  180. gsjackson says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Can’t consign Pepe to the circus, but I do agree strongly that Rurik should have a column.

  181. Robjil says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    “The Week” is the worst magazine. I gave up on it. They are US Zion empire propagandists. It supported the war against Yugoslavia. I cancelled my subscription after that.

    After I was brainwashed by the nine eleven event, I tried it again. It continues doing US Zion yellow journalism. After Nuland’s coup in Ukraine, I canceled it again. Researching all things after this coup, I found out that nine eleven was a Zion event.

    The things you mentioned are from the Zion era. It does not speak of the Russian Empire era. It does not speak of the Tartar raids for Slav slaves. Ukraine being the closest region to the Crimean Tartars, it was the biggest victim of that trade. Poland and Russia was also effected by it.

    Russia ended that Slav slave trade in 1783 after it took over Crimea. Ukraine could rebuild and was safe from the raids for Slavery

  182. AP says:
    @EugeneGur

    Not to mention that in post-war years Ukraine enjoyed a significantly higher level of prosperity than Russia, and not due to their own efforts but because it was heavily subsidized.

    A common Soviet belief that is false.

    During Soviet times, Ukraine was much poorer than Russia (look at 1990):

    The idea that Russia was “feeding” the European republics was a myth.

  183. Just tired of the Putin worship here, when in reality the Joos have a stranglehold on Putin, just as they have had on every American administration since before the apartheid state of modern day Israel was founded. Whatever becomes of this mess, it will be good for no one. Then again it is possible it is all just another “wag the dog” moment in history. I guess only time will tell.
    Cheers

    There is much more research that could be conducted regarding the validity of Putin being a nationalist, such as the apartment bombings, support of Antifa in the US while viciously clamping down on Antifa in Russia, the bombing of Chechens, support of the middle east invasion post 9/11, the secrecy surrounding Vera Putina as well as his time in the FSB, KGB and his time spent with people like Dugin and others. In any case, we see that on the subject of Zionism apparently Putin is just as much of a Zionist as Donald Trump or almost anyone else in contemporary politics who purports to have right-wing beliefs. Men who are genuinely concerned with the health and welfare of European nations and European people across the globe would do well to look more carefully into the backgrounds of certain figureheads claiming to be nationalists, especially if they think people like Putin or Dugin are. Knowing what is known now, one should begin to reconsider their support for the Alt-Right, as we have not even touched on a surface level analysis of the Alt-Rights’ many inconsistencies, not yet. Just as many Trump supporters have been undermined by the results of Q-anon during Capitol Hill or how the Alt-Right imploded after Charlottesville one must be more aware of the inner workings of these movements. I wish my Russian brothers the best of luck and to all people across the world who have come under the pre-calculated, existential nightmare created by Zionism.

    PUTIN – RUSSIAN NATIONALIST OR ZIONIST?
    https://action-zealandia.com/articles/putin-russian-nationalist-or-zionist

    • Replies: @Robjil
  184. Robjil says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    There is a reason why Russia is so “hated” by our Zion “free” press and its governments like the US. The articles below show that Russia acts very differently than the “free” Zion west.

    https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/us-born-rabbi-called-extremist-kicked-out-of-russia-540444

    MOSCOW — For the eighth time this past decade, Russian authorities told a foreign Chabad rabbi living in Russia to leave the country.
    Josef Marozof, a New York-born rabbi who began working 12 years ago for Chabad in the city of Ulyanovsk 400 miles east of Moscow, was ordered earlier this week to leave because the FSB security service said he had been involved in unspecified “extremist behavior.”

    https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/us-born-rabbi-called-extremist-kicked-out-of-russia-540444

    Chief Rabbi of Siberia Asher Krichevsky is the latest in a series of rabbis who have faced expulsion by Russia for purportedly threatening the country’s stability.

    Krichevsky was stripped of his residence permit after being charged with attempting to “destroy Russia’s constitutional order,” according to a synagogue official in the Siberian city of Omsk.

  185. anon[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @AP

    Myth or not that chart doesn’t show anything about the post war period. It starts at the point where the USSR breaks up.

    • Replies: @AP
  186. @Rurik

    The West is suffering what Jung called a ‘psychic epidemic’, but I would prefer to call it a ‘psychopathic epidemic’. The 500 year reign of terror over the world by the West is over. The nukes are still there, ready and waiting. All belief in anything but greed and power is dead. Religion is worse than dead -it has been perverted into fundamentalist, ‘happy-clappy’, ‘prosperity doctrine’, ‘ Christian Zionist’, End Time barbaro-imbecility. The ecological collapse is near its end-stage, and we feel in, sub-consciously, and manifest it in our dreams and nightmares. And everywhere you look in the West, power is in the hands of Evil imbeciles, while decent, if gutless, people like Corbyn are hounded from public life by a braying pack of lying, slandering, Zionazis and their Sabbat Goy stooges. Lies are the lingua franca of these robopaths, and everything they say and do is untrue and wicked.

  187. @AP

    I wonder where were you then? I seriously doubt you even existed at the time?
    Now, without those pesky Kazapy, feeding whom sucked Ukraine dry according to this chart you produced, how come Ukraine turned into total piece of you know what that no one wants to touch even with a very long stick and is one of the two poorest states in Europe.
    Something clearly does not add up. Unlike you I lived in Ukraine then.

    • Replies: @AP
  188. AP says:
    @Serge Krieger

    I wonder where were you then? I seriously doubt you even existed at the time?

    I visited Ukraine in 1990 and saw Soviet squalor with my own eyes. It was terrible, how people lived. From a material standpoint, middle class Soviets lived liked American blacks in housing projects. Three generations in a single apartment, almost nobody had cars (but they could take busses, like Detroiters do), cheap clothing and furniture, deodorant was a luxury, etc.

    Now, without those pesky Kazapy, feeding whom sucked Ukraine dry according to this chart you produced, how come Ukraine turned into

    It was run by Soviet comprador elites. People brought up on Soviet values, who took the opportunity to steal all they could. Kravchuk – third in command of Ukrainian Communist Party leadership. Kuchma – director of a Soviet factory. They ran the place into the ground from 1991-2005. What would you expect?

    and is one of the two poorest states in Europe.

    Since Ukraine’s westward turn it’s wages have now surpassed those of Belarus, Armenia, and Georgia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

    Taking into account cost of living, Ukraine slips behind Belarus but passes Moldova, Albania and Kosovo.

    But there will be a lot of catching up to do, decades of crap can’t be changed overnight.

    • Replies: @Serge Krieger
    , @Robjil
  189. AP says:
    @anon

    A year before.

    I found this chart going back to 1970:

    Ukraine was poorer than Russia and poorer than the USSR average since 1970 at least. In some Soviet years, Ukraine was even poorer than the Caucasian republics.

    Anyone who claims Ukraine was the richest USSR republic is either dishonest or a clueless believer in myths.

  190. @AP

    1990?
    We all know what was going by that year. You should have come earlier.
    Your arguement is similar to someone telling me that everyone was living in communal apartments surrounded by drunks.
    In 80s I knew no one among those whom I knew who did not have separate apartment and many had cars.
    But you miss the point totally. USSR while improving standards of life steadily was providing to people basically for free what cost arm and leg in the West.
    Btw, my grandfather knew Kuchma personally. It is Dnepropetrovsk Uzh Mash. Was according to him outstanding director. Not president though.
    Again. You see.when Kuchma was controlled from Moscow he used to be a lot better than when he got the full responsibility. Reminds you of something? The whole Ukraine project is going down the drain.

    • Replies: @AP
    , @Serge Krieger
  191. Blade says:
    @Seraphim

    Nonsense. Turkic tribes had been there long before Russians. That’s why as soon as Russian principalities were established they ended up having a series of wars with Pechenegs, Kipchag and then others. Tatars are just the same people.

    • Replies: @AP
    , @Seraphim
  192. Blade says:
    @Majority of One

    That’s a funny thought. Chinese aren’t dumbasses. They are busy with more imminent stuff and have no reason to turn enemies with Turkey. So that’s not possible. Half of Iran is Turk/Turkmen, I don’t see them trying to cause huge problems for Turkey as Turkey could much effectively support Turkic separatism in Iran, that would be the end of Iran. That leaves Russia. Russia is not in a position to do anything you suggest. Turkey holds Russia by its neck by controlling the Turkish Straits. Montreaux Convention is a working agreement, and it is good for Russia. Turkey also still has ties to the Caucasus. Russia would risk neither another revolt in the Caucuses nor turning the Black Sea into NATO sea to support some Kurds or Syrians. Just because you hate Turks, doesn’t mean everyone else would harm their own interests for your delusions. The reality is that all countries you mentioned are trying to pull Turkey to their side for intelligent reasons on their end, and thanks to stupid mistakes on America’s end it starts looking more and more sensible thing to do.

  193. Blade: Northwestern Iranians are Azeris, of mixed Persian and Turanic heritage, as well as having absorbed indigenous elements. There are very few Turkomans in Iran. The straits are useful for Russia but not critical as they do have warm-water ports in Murmansk and Vladivostok. Turkey’s ties in the Caucasus are not all that binding as the Islamist Chechens took their due whipping and the population of Dagestan is not very large. Relative pinpricks.

    Turks are an ultimately undigestible intrusion into Anatolia and absofuckkinlutely do not belong in their chunk of Europe. Many of today’s Turks are absorbed indigenes and perhaps do not possess the innate hatreds and fanaticisms which are so evident in “Sultan” Erdogan with his expansionist fantasies.

    Had the Rottenchild crime clan not had the Brits and French by the short-hairs, inducing them to invade Crimea in the mid 1850’s, Tsarist Russia would have cleaned the Ottoman clock during or around the era of the American Civil War and we would not have that Turkish problem today and Russia would have Orthodox allies controlling the Straits.

    • Replies: @Blade
  194. James1 says:
    @Schuetze

    I always like articles by Pepe for his indepth knowledge of the facts. I’m in Australia & NOT at all happy that this country is a memeber of 5 Eyes -a junior partner that licks the USA a$$ at all times – so no thing but Western propaganda here.

    Seems to me that the only worthwhile thing to do if Europe & USA are stupid enough to get actively involved is that Israel should be taken out — finished –nuclear response! A just wounded Israeli animal is too dangerous. Finish it & the USA is also denutted !

  195. AP says:
    @Serge Krieger

    In 80s I knew no one among those whom I knew who did not have separate apartment and many had cars.

    In 1990 my relatives didn’t choose to all move together that year. It was typical for parents, kids and grandparents to share an apartment. When people divorced – they often still lived together in the same small apartment because they had nowhere else to go.

    Average wait time for a car was seven years and the available cars were mostly crappy modified Fiat. “Many” is not “most.” In 1985, there were only 45 consumer automobiles were 1,000 people in the USSR Maybe 1 in 5 Soviet families had a car. That is many people, but still a minority of them. More families in American housing projects own cars than did middle class Soviets. And the type of cars the American poor people own (old Buicks, old Hondas) are much better than the Soviet junk cars.

    A Soviet joke:

    A man laid down the money to buy a car. The person in charge of distributing cars said to him: Come back in 10 years and get your car.

    The man answered: Morning or afternoon?

    And the fellow behind the counter said: Ten years from now, what difference does it make?

    And he said: Well, the plumber is coming in the morning.

    ::::::

    But the USSR had 5 times more tanks than the USA. That did a lot of good.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  196. AP says:
    @Blade

    Correct, but there were also Greeks and Ostrogoths in Crimea. These assimilated into the Tatars.

  197. The only way I could envision Greeks and Ostrogoths being “assimilated” by the Tatars was by being sold in the Istanbul slave markets—the Tatar specialty.

  198. Seraphim says:
    @Blade

    Petchenegs, Cumans (Kipchak) never settled in Crimea. They might have ‘controlled’ it at times, but from outside. The wars between Rus and nomads happened outside Crimea. It was at times under the control of the Khazars, if that’s what you try to suggest (Khazars before Russians, Khazars the ancestors of the ‘Ukrainians’, ergo Crimea belongs to ‘Ukraine’).
    The eastern area of Crimea was conquered by Prince Sviatoslav I of Kiev and became part of the Kievan Rus’ principality of Tmutarakan. The Church of Saint John the Baptist in Kerch was built in 717AD and for sure it was not ‘tartar’.
    In 988, Prince Vladimir I of Kiev also captured the Byzantine town of Chersonesos (presently part of Sevastopol) where he later converted to Christianity. The remains of the church where he was baptized are visible even today. It remained in Byzantine hands until the Mongol invasion. The Crimean interior came under the control of the Turco-Mongol Golden Horde from 1239 to 1441.

    • Replies: @Blade
    , @anon
  199. Oblov says:

    Russia could overrun everything up to the Dnepr (which would include half of Kiev) and along the black sea up to to the border to Transnistria.

    Could Russia hold on to these territories? Very much in doubt. Too expensive to rebuild, too difficult to defend against a population among which there would be many many thousands willing to participate in terrorist attacks against Russian forces. The Chinese wouldn’t like it either. They want stability. Strelkov is a total dreamer. Nobody should even listen to this guy.

    So going for the Dnepr is ruled out.

    NATO and the Ukrainians know that and they only need a war that’s limited to Eastern Ukraine. They need not win it.

    The Russians know that NATO and the Ukrainians know and so on.

    Poker game. Who blinks first looses.

    Ukraine and its NATO backers will blink first. They know the equation but they also suffer from a gigantic psychological drive that compels them to go to war. It exists on all levels and it’s all about Russophobia. They are in the process of establishing totalitarian, mask-wearing, contact-traced, vaccinated, anti-racist Wokistan under permanent lockdown. In Western perception Russia is the counter-thesis to all of that even though it is not immune to these tendencies either. Mobilization can’t be stopped, like on the eve of WWI. War it has to be and war it will be.

    But, Putin will need to let the situation develop to get the Russian population behind him.

    Politics is the art of the possible. Not more is possible than Russian forces moving into Donbass to prevent a genocide. That’s what the Russians are prepared to support, not more than that. But they need to see the genocide unfolding first. It’s also necessary for the Germans to see it for them to be able to hold on to NS2.

    The Ukrainians, even though they do not really need to win, may still try to win by attempting a massive sudden assault.

    If Donbass forces can hold the line long enough, then Russia moves in, otherwise it looses.

    • Agree: Aedib
  200. Anon[391] • Disclaimer says:

    Those illegal immigrant children are so cute and innocent so why don’t we let them in, say the white women. And then they grow up to hate the very country that took them in, like Pepe Escobar. The man is an evil demon. It’s unconscionable for anyone to hate a country so much that allowed him to achieve such prosperity that he never would have been able to achieve in his own country, and never asked anything of him. He is a truly evil man.

  201. Robjil says:
    @AP

    Since Ukraine’s westward turn it’s wages have now surpassed

    A westward turn is not a good thing these days. The east is the way. Ukraine is making a big mistake, the west is going the way of a new Soviet Union.

    https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/5016812?hl=en

    You cannot be a publisher and a platform. You cannot exert corporate power over public discourse. Any liberal would be opposed to corporate exertion of power in this regard, and yet they don’t care because its their team with the power. To say that censoring people stops violence is profoundly insane. John Stuart Mill and other classical liberals laid out the case quite a long time ago that we need people who believe heterodox views to be able to speak.

    We are seeing censorship of conservative content creators, and we are seeing complete censorship of conservative ideas on ALL social media platforms. When we can’t talk to one another, WE FIGHT. You are making an egregious error and you are forcing our hand. If you, an American company with a near-monopoly on video distribution, cannot adhere to the first amendment and disallow your biased Californian employees’ echo-chamber from persecuting one group UNFAIRLY, we will bring the fight to you in policies.

  202. @Serge Krieger

    One with half brain should check what combo of free housing, education, medicine and decent retirement at 60 for men and numerous other free perks from kids and citizens costs before posting crap. Right now one has to check how much it costs to just rent apartment say in Toronto , I would not even go into buying…

    • Replies: @AP
  203. Alfred says:
    @AP

    Crimea and the blue corner of Donetsk/Luhansk were the only factual parts of the map

    So the “Ukrainian” army of the Ukrainian Tsar Peter the Great defeated the Swedes at Poltava?

    An interesting take on history. 🤣

    And the Ukrainian Empress (born in Prussia) Catherine the Great founded the city of Odessa, and that is why her statue is in the centre of that used-to-be-great city.

    • Agree: Jazman
    • Replies: @AP
  204. AP says:
    @Serge Krieger

    One with half brain should check what combo of free housing, education, medicine and decent retirement at 60 for men and numerous other free perks from kids and citizens costs before posting crap.

    Poor black people in the USA get all of these things, at quality levels (other than education, but this seems cultural rather than systemic) similar to that of the Soviet middle class.

  205. AP says:
    @Alfred

    Crimea and the blue corner of Donetsk/Luhansk were the only factual parts of the map

    So the “Ukrainian” army of the Ukrainian Tsar Peter the Great defeated the Swedes at Poltava?

    Peter added something to Ukraine?

    Are you that historically illiterate?

    And the Ukrainian Empress (born in Prussia) Catherine the Great founded the city of Odessa, and that is why her statue is in the centre of that used-to-be-great city

    The map claimed that Odessa was added to Ukraine by Lenin in 1922, not by Catherine II.

    You can’t read maps (even fake ones) like you can’t read history.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  206. Seraphim says:

    The real founder of the cities of Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev, Sevastopol, Simferopol, was the ‘Ukrainian’ Prince Grigory Aleksandrovich Potemkin-Tauricheski, the first Governor General of Novorussia and Taurida, born in Chizovo, in the region of Vladimir-Suzdal, and old ‘Ukrainian’ region snatched by the Moskali!

  207. @AP

    Russians already had a excellent luxury car called Volga at the end of fifties.
    Also later car Lada (which I did have) was a very good car. (lasting)
    Also in the fifties I did have Russian wrist watch called Pobieda (victory) It lasted many decades.

  208. @Zarathustra

    Ukraine was never an independent state. It had never any Ukrainian administration or Ukrainian power structure. most of power structure was nobility which was strictly Russian. Actually most of the population was Russian as it is still today. Cossacks did have a power structure, but they were faithful to Russian czar to their last breath.
    …………………………………………………………………..
    So all this idiotic bullshit what AP here is spewing is just that a bullshit.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @AP
  209. According to the mainstream narrative, oil is bad, guns are bad, rednecks and their love of big diesel trucks are bad. Thus the Biden Admin is moving the USAmerika into an electric car future, GM said it will only produce electric vehicles by 2035, Los Angeles will not permit new gasoline stations, Tesla stock went to the moon, and Nancy Pelosi has a fund invested in our green future. Uh huh. If we are so sure of electricity over oil, why do we have so many troops with their guns and heavy diesel trucks all over the middle east where the oil (and heroin) is? If guns are so bad why does the USGov have so many? If hard drugs like heroin so bad why are we still occupying Afghanistan? Why does Dayton Ohio have an heroin epidemic, is it because of Wright-Patterson AFB is a distribution point?

    [MORE]

    The other part of this green narrative which is utter bullshit is that we are going all the way with electric to combat global warming, which is now called climate change, both are about the demonization of carbon dioxide (a life gas but labeled as a pollutant by the EPA) . The MSM (babbling idiots) say CO2 going up is causing warming. A trace gas going from 280 to 415 ppm over the last century is not a controlling factor in earth thermodynamics and heat equation, but it is believed nevertheless by the public and that genius AOC. Many geologists know that CO2 is not correlated with temperature, past ice ages CO2 was over 3,000 ppm.

    Many scientists (see https://electroverse.net/) know global warming by CO2 is a hoax but are blacklisted and drowned out by the MSM liars who push agendas and public policies based on unprovable effects of invisible molecules like CO2 or invisible (non-existant) virus thingy they call COVID-19. This anti-CO2 religion has a saint named Greta Thunberg who’s mom says she can see CO2 molecules rising from chimneys.

    On the home front the US empire battles the invisible Covid and CO2 molecules, but overseas the USMil has invested a huge amount in men and materials to protect the oil fields. If we are all going to be driving Teslas in ten years then why are we wasting our resources and wealth on yesterday’s energy supply? The Pentacon is the world’s largest user of oil, fighter jets and bombers burn lots of kerosene, as do tanks and troop carriers and naval ships. Oil is the lifebllood of the modern military, and Iran has lots of it.

    Iran and China sign 25-year cooperation agreement

  210. AP says:
    @Zarathustra

    Russians already had a excellent luxury car called Volga at the end of fifties.

    LOL. The 1970s version of this “luxury car” had a maximum speed of 90 mph.

    Also later car Lada (which I did have) was a very good car. (lasting)

    The famous Zhiguli was a modified cheap Fiat. It did look kind of cute. It broke down often, but because it was built simply it was easy to fix. You forgot the Moskvich which was even worse.

    Only about 1 in 5 Soviet families had a car; for such junk they had to typically be on a 7 year waiting list. So be definition, even this junk was a “luxury” by poor Soviet standards.

    This was the common Soviet car of the 1980s:

    Maximum speed 86 mph.

    In the USA the most popular car in 1985 was the Chevrolet Cavalier:

    Much bigger, softer seats, faster, etc.

    It was probably about as “luxurious” as the Volga.

    Almost every American family could afford and did have a car.

    • Thanks: Johnny Walker Read
  211. Miro23 says:

    The famous Zhiguli was a modified cheap Fiat. It did look kind of cute. It broke down often, but because it was built simply it was easy to fix. You forgot the Moskvich which was even worse.

    I had that “cheap Fiat” (Fiat 124) and it was an excellent car all round (apart from flaky paintwork). Much better than anything British Leyland was producing.

  212. AP says:

    I had that “cheap Fiat” (Fiat 124) and it was an excellent car all round (apart from flaky paintwork). Much better than anything British Leyland was producing.

    Better than a Jaguar? Um, okay.

    In the USA, Fiat was said to stand for “Fix It Again, Tony.”

    Most popular car in Britain in 1985 was a Ford Escort:

    Still a class above the Zhiguli.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  213. AP says:
    @Zarathustra

    Ukraine was never an independent state.

    Hetmanate was independent from 1648 until it signed a treaty with Russia in 1654:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack_Hetmanate

    The Ukrainian Peoples’ Republic was recognized as an independent state de jure by Germany, Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, Ottoman Empire, Soviet Union, Baltic Republics, Georgia, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Holy See and de facto by Switzerland, Sweden Denmark and Persia, though it was controlled by Germany as the Warsaw Pact countries were controlled by Moscow during the Cold War:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_People%27s_Republic

    most of power structure was nobility which was strictly Russian

    No, many of the Ukrainian elites such as the historian and head of the Central Rada Hrushevsky were of noble background.

    Actually most of the population was Russian as it is still today.

    LOL.

    Cossacks did have a power structure, but they were faithful to Russian czar to their last breath

    .

    Like Mazepa? Or Vyhovsky?

    The anti-Russian Ukrainian nationalist Petliura was of Cossack background. So was the Ukrainian fascist Dmytro Dontsov:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Dontsov

    So all this idiotic bullshit what AP here is spewing

    We see above who spews what. Tell us more about most of Ukraine’s population being Russian. Or that the Zhiguli was a great car.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  214. canspeccy says: • Website
    @EugeneGur

    Thirdly, the heaviest battles in the Second World War were mostly fought in Ukraine.

    Actually, none was.

    Actually, one was.

    The Battle of the Dneiper, with something like four million troops engaged and a million and a half casualties.

    It was the largest battle ever fought on the face of planet Earth.

  215. AP says:

    Thank you for demonstrating that Eugene Gur does not even know the basics of Soviet history or the history of World War II.

    But really, the only way one can be an honest fan of the USSR is if one knows little about it.

    (Among other large battles in Ukraine were the Second Battle of Kharkov with about a million men total, Lvov–Sandomierz strategic offensive operation involving 1.4 million men total, etc.)

  216. Blade: Northwestern Iranians are Azeris, of mixed Persian and Turanic heritage, as well as having absorbed indigenous elements. There are very few Turkomans in Iran. The straits are useful for Russia but not critical as they do have warm-water ports in Murmansk and Vladivostok. Turkey’s ties in the Caucasus are not all that binding as the Islamist Chechens took their due whipping and the population of Dagestan is not very large. Relative pinpricks.

    Turks are an ultimately undigestible intrusion into Anatolia and absofuckkinlutely do not belong in their chunk of Europe. Many of today’s Turks are absorbed indigenes and perhaps do not possess the innate hatreds and fanaticisms which are so evident in “Sultan” Erdogan with his expansionist fantasies.

    Had the Rottenchild crime clan not had the Brits and French by the short-hairs, inducing them to invade Crimea in the mid 1850’s, Tsarist Russia would have cleaned the Ottoman clock during or around the era of the American Civil War and we would not have that Turkish problem today and Russia would have Orthodox allies controlling the Straits.

  217. Miro23 says:
    @AP

    Better than a Jaguar? Um, okay.

    Jaguar not so great:

    Where do we even begin with this one? The Jaguar XJ-S and XJ-12 might be the most affordable V12 cars you can buy, but that affordability comes at the expense of reliability. The Jaguar XJ-12 has two radiators fed by two coolant tanks, with two fuel tanks, two fuel pumps and a battery that has its own thermostatically controlled cooling fan. If that isn’t enough to terrify you, these cars are filled with a mind-boggling maze of infamous Lucas wiring, with fuse boxes at seemingly random intervals along the fenders inside the engine bay. And when things do break, engine access is worse than anything except a twin-turbo 300ZX (look it up, it’s spooky!). Opening the hood on a V12 Ferrari reveals gleaming cam covers and polished intake manifolds, whereas the underhood view of a V12 Jaguar is dominated by a mess of vacuum lines and wiring that resembles the Windows “pipes” screensaver. This is not a car for the faint of heart or slim of pocketbook.

    • Replies: @AP
  218. AP says:
    @Miro23

    Ok, so in your mind a Zhiguli is better than a Jaguar because complex wiring. And middle class Soviet housing:

    Is better than middle class Western housing:

    Because there is less stuff to fix or go wrong (roof, etc.)

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Commentator Mike
  219. Robjil says:
    @AP

    Ukraine could have been a contender. It choose to join the US Zion empire in 2014.

    Russia chose to be a contender when Putin came in power. The entire real free world is very happy about that. Ukraine is now just one of the many colonies of US Zion empire. How sad for Ukraine.

    https://www.sott.net/article/450940-Understanding-the-anti-Putin-PSYOP-The-Empire-prepares-its-Ukrainian-puppet-for-war

    A summary of how Russia became a contender.

    To understand why Putin is the Devil incarnate, we have to understand that the leaders of the collective West really thought that this time around, after a millennium of failures and embarrassing defeats, the West has finally “defeated” Russia which would now become a leaderless, culture-less, spiritual-less and, of course, history-less territory whose sole purpose would be to provide resources for the “Triumphant West”. Not only that, but the AngloZionist leaders of the Empire executed the 9/11 false flag operation which gave them the pretext needed for the GWOT, but which completely distracted the West from its previous focus on the so-called “Russian threat” simply because by 2001 there was no Russian threat. So there was a certain logic behind these moves. And then, “suddenly” (at least for western leaders) Russia was “back”: in 2013 Russia stopped the planned US/NATO attack on Syria (the pretext here was Syrian chemical weapons). In 2014 Russia gave her support to the Novorussian uprising against the Ukronazi regime in Kiev and, in the same year, Russia also used her military to make it possible for the local population to vote on a referendum to join Russia. Finally, in 2015, Russia stunned the West with an extremely effective military intervention in Syria.

    Meanwhile, US ukraine is being used as a battering ram against Russia for the US Zion empire’s interests. It may spark WWIII and end our planet.

  220. @Zarathustra

    Marxism(Communism) at work today in the US. It’s all about the proletariat don’t cha know..

    The co-founder of the polarizing Black Lives Matter movement is under fire for buying a $1.4 million home in a posh California neighborhood that’s 88 percent white. It’s an interesting decision for Patrisse Cullors, a self-professed Marxist and race-baiting activist who has paid lip service to promoting black pride.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/blm-founder-branded-fraud-after-buying-million-dollar-home-mostly-white-la-enclave

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  221. @Johnny Walker Read

    Both Fascism and Communism gave birth of enormous enthusiasm in Majority of people.
    Fascism was destroyed by war. And Communism did stop functioning after enthusiasm of people receded. But even Communism did have a tremendous successes at beginning.

  222. @AP

    AP understands very good. History. Iron-mining.

  223. Blade says:
    @Seraphim

    I am not trying to suggest anything I just corrected a basic mistake, the claim that Crimeans suddenly popped in the 15th century. By the way, it was settled by Turko-Altaic people from time immemorial. Before Khazars, there were Bulgars, before them Huns, and so on. Kerch itself is a Turkic word for that reason. I’ve read this stuff from Russian Turcologists themselves, who actually have done excellent work on this subject.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  224. Blade says:
    @Majority of One

    If we talked about could-haves there are a lot more could-haves in Turkish history. What if Timur didn’t destroy Golden Horde? What if the Ottomans helped Tatar Khaganetes? What if we focused on Russia sooner? What if we didn’t stop at Pruth and destroyed Peter and his army? It doesn’t mean anything.

    As for Azeri Turks, they disagree with you. Not me, they disagree with the nonsensical claim that they are Persian. They are so Turkish that their Shah, who gave Iranians their religion writes in his Turkish poems that when his Turks appeared Persians were wondering if it was doomsday. So maybe you should not talk in place of people who are clearly Turks, and call themselves so. It is only butthurt Persians who insist that they are Persians. Are you Persian?

    • Replies: @Majority of One
    , @AP
  225. @Blade

    Me Persian? Not in this lifetime. Are you a Turk?

  226. Seraphim says:
    @Blade

    I didn’t say that ‘Crimeans’ suddenly popped up in the 15th century, but the Tartars. If Tartars were ‘Crimeans’, not all Crimeans were Tartars. That the Crimean Peninsula is a ‘cul-de-sac’ in which various populations poured during millenia and that it has been inhabited at all times is something too well known to be worth discussing at all. The problem is who exercised sovereignty over it. Since 1783 there were the Russians. The majority of the Tatars, who refused to submit to a Christian ruler, emigrated to Turkey.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  227. AP says:
    @Blade

    As for Azeri Turks, they disagree with you. Not me, they disagree with the nonsensical claim that they are Persian.

    They are Turkified Persians. Baku still has an old native Zoroastrian fire temple, they still celebrate the Persian New Year, and of course they are Shiites.

    But they adopted a Turkic language |(sometime in the 14th-15th centuries), and you are correct, that Azeris see themselves as brothers of Turks, not of Persians.

  228. @AP

    You’re cherry picking your images. There was plenty of Soviet style breeze block housing in the West and there still is. Maybe not middle class but then the Russian and East European middle classes also had a house in the countryside something western middle classes don’t.

    • Replies: @AP
  229. Seraphim says:
    @AP

    ‘Many’ doesn’t mean ‘most’. Mazepa or Vyhovsky means ‘some’. Petliura ended up as we know. Exceptions do not make the rule.

    • Replies: @AP
  230. hotrod31 says:
    @anon

    anon: You have said it all …
    America and most other Western-Democracies, do not govern for the people, they govern to remain in power so that they may do the bidding of their campaign fund supporters, viz. the multi-corps and nefarious oligarch masters.

    • Replies: @RichardDuck
  231. AP says:
    @Seraphim

    Pay attention. The person I responded to claimed all. Every one. Very ridiculous and ignorant. I provided significant and obvious counter examples.

    Mazepa and Vyhovsky were both the local rulers. As were Doroshenko, Sahaidachny, Khmelnytsky (plotting with the Swedes against Moscow at the time of his death), all pursuing anti-Russian policies. So it may be most, or at least close to half.

  232. @Seraphim

    The people are Tatars.
    Tartar is the sauce.
    Otherwise I do agree with you.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  233. AP says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You’re cherry picking your images.

    No. I posted very typical and popular Soviet housing, where middle class people lived. My own aunts and uncles lived in such apartments, as did one set of my wife’s grandparents.

    There was plenty of Soviet style breeze block housing in the West and there still is

    Sure. Typically, housing projects for poor people. That’s the point. Middle class professionals in the USSR lived like poor people in the West.

    but then the Russian and East European middle classes also had a house in the countryside something western middle classes don’t.

    Under Soviet rule, dacha ownership peaked in the 1980s with only a third of families having a dacha. These were typically shacks (many lacked indoor plumbing) and a small plot of land to grow potatoes and fruits to supplement one’s diet and store for the winter.

  234. Robjil says:
    @AP

    The creation of US ukraine was the biggest mistake in centuries for this planet. It is worst than any Climate Change. Ukraine joined the new Soviet Union, that is the Zion US empire. The Soviet Union never ended , it just went west. Read any of the “news” media in the US Zion empire. It reads like the Soviet Union of the past, but on a much lower intellectual level.

    This new Soviet Union is crazier than original, it might lead to a nuclear war that ends this planet.

    Why did Ukraine join the new Soviet Union? How could it be so easily fooled?

  235. @AP

    For one nice house in US there are ten homeless.

    • LOL: AP
  236. @Petermx

    Wasn’t France not in NATO for a long time? and even with the Iraq war the French didn’t want to get involved hence “Freedom Fries” (which the French laughed at and said it started in Belgium). So it’s always been clear that they didn’t always agree with NATO. But of course the French were in lock step with Obama and Hillary in the destruction of Libya – so it’s not always innocent.
    But overall yeah – I’m not sure why France and Germany stay in NATO.

  237. Rdm says:

    Pepe,

    Don’t worry. Mission accomplished !!

    2 days ago, Walgreens in Florida,

    Ukrainian lady doing service voluntarily under the name of who-you-know.

  238. @Majority of One

    Americans and NATO know that their warships in the black sea will be like rubber ducks in a bath tub. The first day of any war they will be sent to the bottom to become permanent hotels for fish. They will only go to the Black Sea like tourist cruise ships and leave in a few days. They will stay there only when Pentagon and NATO commanders get some screws lose in their head/

  239. Seraphim says:
    @Zarathustra

    Of course I was not talking about Tartar Sauce.

    ”Historically, the term Tatars (or Tartars) was applied to anyone originating from the vast Northern and Central Asian landmass then known as Tartary, which was dominated by various Turco-Mongol nomadic empires and kingdoms
    Tartary (Latin: Tartaria, French: Tartarie, German: Tartarei) was a blanket term used in Western European literature and cartography for a vast part of Asia bounded by the Caspian Sea, the Ural Mountains, the Pacific Ocean, and the northern borders of China and India at a time when this region was largely unknown to European geographers. In the Early modern period, as understanding of the geography increased, Europeans began to subdivide Tartary into sections with prefixes denoting the name of the ruling power or the geographical location. Thus, Siberia was Great Tartary or Russian Tartary, the Crimean Khanate was Little Tartary, Manchuria was Chinese Tartary, and western Central Asia (prior to becoming Russian Central Asia) was known as Independent Tartary
    More recently, however, the term has come to refer more narrowly to highly or lowly related ethnic groups who refer to themselves as Tatars or who speak languages that are commonly referred to as Tatar, namely Tatar by Volga Tatars (Tatars proper), Crimean Tatar by Crimean Tatars (although Crimean Tatars are not a part of a “big” Tatar nation, they are a different nation using the similar ethnonym) and Siberian Tatar by Siberian Tatars.
    The largest group amongst the Tatars by far are the Volga Tatars, native to the Volga-Ural region (Tatarstan and Bashkortostan)…”

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  240. @showmethereal

    The French led the charge on Libya because Gaddafi was funding an African Union currency and a bank. The French CFA was threatened. The French sided with the Jews, who owned Obama and Killary, to destroy Libya.
    Libya was the ‘cork’ that kept sub-Saharan Africa plugged. No more. Now Israel sees European jewry frightened and getting on planes to Tel-Aviv. Awesome for Israel.
    I wonder when the Jews in America will face similar attacks to push them home? Coming up real soon.

  241. @MLK

    Of course it is a distraction, unless the global elites have decided to finally “do it” and start Armageddon. They have pushed Russia back up against the wall. They can’t have Ukraine in NATO or the jig is up. Russia can get by without NS II and the US knows this. A totally distracted and discombobulated populace is less likely to formulate a coherent plan/organization to combat these psychos. Americans have turned into frightened children with all of this drama.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  242. Exosome says:
    @Rurik

    Frankly, the entire Ukraine thing is about the unresolved territorial issues created by Stalin.
    That’s the elephant in the room, waiting to be talked about, ie peace treaties terminating WWII finally.

    Almost half of Poland is German territory plus East Prussia is Polish and Russia admisitered , the western parts of Ukraine and Belorussia are be Poland. Thus, NS2 pipeline is done in the North Sea to bypass these issues.
    Bottom line, “post” WWII disorder was built on the inequality of Germany and Japan in international relations, see the still present enemy state clauses in the UN charter.
    In case of NS2, Germany has no real say, as anyone can see, former WWII allies fight over German energy supplies.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Exosome
  243. Exosome says:
    @Exosome

    Correction… not in the North sea, but Baltic sea.

    The result of going back to lawful borders, ie peace treaties, would be artificial Ukraine being almost non existent, the west would go Poland, the east to Russia.
    Leaves unresolved Belorussia, which is also in the works as it looks, with Lukashenko publicly humiliating the IMF and their “corona” psyop.

  244. From the outside and listening to US rhetoric, the militarization of Ukraine as it is done by the US looks like it is going to be a repeat of the establishment of Israel as a super US controlled military base to control the region. The next step should be the transformation of one one of the “-stan” states in Central-Asia into another military state serving the US dictates. The US once helped finance the adventures of Hitler against Russia; it seems the US now has a better plan.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  245. @hotrod31

    I tend to agree rhat Western democracies are no longer democraties in the sense that the “elected” people act more like autocrats and monarchs; they seem to work for lobbying groups. They no longer listen to the people’s voices. When important decisions are grounded on the general consensus, people feel concerned and participate to the common good. Unfortunately Western populations have abdicated their right to govern themselves or their voice is being silenced. Strange in the age of the Internet.

  246. Exosome says:
    @showmethereal

    I’m not sure why France and Germany stay in NATO.

    The answer is quite easy, but overlooked because it is so obvious.

    Germany, that is the US administration for Germany(“Federal Republic”) imposed in 1948 in West Germany, extended in 1990 to former GDR, is an US administration registered in Washington DC. As such, the Berlin regime are legally prohibited to seek a peace treaty or negotiate peace, since they do not represent the German state, but foreign powers. This is documented in the “2+4” Paris protocols of the French.

    France is funnily in kind of similar situation, because after the German occupation of France, the invading US never actually repealed military law there. France is basically the representative of WWII China in Europe, hence member of UN sec council, since China had no war efforts in Europe, and Soviet and Chinese troops in Europe were out of question among the allies.

    Bottom line, this corrupt and impotent EUSSR muppet show is US colony theater, a fig leaf for NATO/US military rule. Germany is still militarily occupied by the US, enemy state to UN.

    As first NATO Sec General Ismay said, and it is still so valid, on the purpose of NATO:

    …to keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down

  247. EugeneGur says:
    @AP

    The idea that Russia was “feeding” the European republics was a myth.

    No, it isn’t. I don’t know where you dug up this graph but it is bogus. Ukraine poorer than Turkmenistan – it’s so silly, it’s not even funny. Yes, Ukraine was significantly more prosperous than Russia, and the arrogance the Ukrainians might’ve been partially derived from that. Silly them, they believe that was because of how cleaver they were.
    My relatives lived in Ukraine and I lived in Moscow at the time. An ordinary Ukrainian provincial town boasted the availability of products almost similar to that in Moscow, while the Russian provincial towns could only dream of that.

    • Replies: @AP
  248. EugeneGur says:
    @AP

    Typically, housing projects for poor people. That’s the point. Middle class professionals in the USSR lived like poor people in the West.

    You are always spitting such nonsense that I am not sure what planet you live on. I am not going to argue that the Soviet people were rich because they weren’t or that the Soviet cars were as good as the German ones because they clearly weren’t. However, lots of thing you say a simply not true.

    Lots of people in the US live in crapy apartment building, which only means that many here in the US aren’t that rich either. We ourselves lived in such a building, and we are two Ph.Ds working at a University at the time. Our neighbors were similar professionals. The apartment we had was in no way better than the one we had back in the Soviet Union, with one difference: it cost us 25% of our income wheres the one back in Russia cost us essentially nothing. We also used public transportation as did many other professional people, with the same difference: super-expensive in the US and virtually free in the USSR.

    This is just one example. You, my friend, consistently cannot see the forest for the trees.

    • Replies: @AP
  249. AP says:
    @EugeneGur

    No, it isn’t. I don’t know where you dug up this graph but it is bogus.

    According to you, who thought there were no major battles on Ukrainian soil during World War II.

    Here is a chart from a Soviet source:

  250. AP says:
    @EugeneGur

    Lots of people in the US live in crapy apartment building

    Correct, because there are over 300 million people in the USA.

    A middle class American does not live in a crappy apartment building, unless perhaps he chooses to live in a small expensive bubble like San Francisco or New York City.

    The apartment we had was in no way better than the one we had back in the Soviet Union, with one difference: it cost us 25% of our income wheres the one back in Russia cost us essentially nothing.

    If you were a very poor person in an American ghetto you also wouldn’t pay rent for your Soviet-style apartment. Something to aspire to.

    Meanwhile, in the real world. A modest, middle class American house where an average person would live (not an upper middle class person like a physician, but perhaps a nurse or schoolteacher):

    Middle class Soviet housing:

    An aunt who was a schoolteacher in an oblast center lived in such a place.

    American public housing for poor people (mostly blacks) in Buffalo, NY:

    Middle-class Soviets had balconies, so there is one small advantage.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  251. @RichardDuck

    U$ messing with the Stans. About as likely as a Stan and Ollie reunion.

  252. Robjil says:
    @AP

    Meanwhile, in the real world. A modest, middle class American house where an average person would live

    Meanwhile in the real world in the nations that the Zion US empire coverts:

    Destruction of lives and properties on the massive scale goes on:

    9 11 – start the Seven Nations to Destroy game

    Destruction of lives of thousands of Americans and many other nationalities caught up in that event

    2001 Afghanistan invasion – destruction of the lives of many American soldiers and millions of Afghanis

    2003 Iraq invasion – destruction of the lives thousands of US soldiers, millions of Iraqis caught up in that and their properties.

    2011 Libya NATO invasion destruction of the lives and property of millions of Libyans

    2011-present – destruction of the lives and the properties of millions of Syrians

    Whatever life of luxury that the US people live in the USA, they have to learn to have compassion for the people overseas affected by what its government does overseas. The same goes nations who live under the USA rule like most of Europe.

    Ukraine as one of the newest colonies of the USA empire, should be ashamed at what the USA empire has done and does to this planet. Ukraine hopefully is the last nation to foolishly join the destructive USA empire.

    It is very odd that as you noted that American citizens cherishes good housing. Yet, ironically and sadly the US empire destroys millions of lives and properties overseas.

  253. @Exosome

    Thanks for that reply. I hope to make some time to look further into what you said about Germany

  254. anon[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    In 988, Prince Vladimir I of Kiev also captured the Byzantine town of Chersonesos (presently part of Sevastopol) “
    Vladimir was looking or a new religion for some reason .He sent emissaries to Byzantine ,to Islamic land and also to Jewish centers .He decided to convert to Christianity . He then imposed the religion on the rest by force.This top- down approach was still operative in other parts of N Europe until 17h century .

    Today religion has become again an instrument of appropriating political legitimacy in many countries including in Caucasus , S E Asia ,and ME. Somewhat it is also a force for abuse among the evangelicals .

    Crimea is Russian now .Tartars have returned to Crimea and more can return from other parts of Siberia if tehy want .But religion shouldn’t play any part in sense of nationality .

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  255. Seraphim says:
    @anon

    I can’t stop wondering why people insist on saying that Vladimir ‘in search for a new religion’ sent emissaries to Byzantine, Islamic and Jewish lands when the primary sources say that there were the Mahomedan Bulgars and the Jewish Khazars and the Catholic Germans and the Orthodox Greeks who sent preachers to Vladimir, each of them praising their religion. Only after that, at the advise of his boyars, did he sent his emissaries in fact finding missions to study their religions and ascertain which one is the truest. And they found out that the Greek one was the true one, illuminated in the Temple of the Holy Wisdom. And they reported back to Vladimir that ‘there God lives in the middle of the people’ and that their services are ‘more wonderful that any others’ and that after ‘testing the sweetness of it they wouldn’t be able to suffer the bitterness [of ‘paganism’] and wouldn’t even want to live in Russia anymore. Then the boyars reasoned with Vladimir: ”the Greek religion was the best since even his grand mother Olga, who was ‘the wisest among all women’ adopted it” (that means that Christianity had a longer history in Russia). Vladimir’s decision to accept the Baptism was not his decision only and it was both religious and political. Orthodoxy became definitory for ‘Russianness’ and Russian statehood. But that’s what irks people so much.

    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  256. Robjil says:

    This is what the world is dealing with since Nuland’s coup in Ukraine in 2014. The Apocalypose as a real factor. Nuland even mentioned this was not about Ukraine joining the EU. Her war cry to start her coup was “F**k the EU”.
    The Zion Joker Zelensky is now asking Libya destroyer NATO to come to Ukraine. Ukraine could have been a contender, it now just a tool of the Zion world wide destruction empire.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/520832-apocalypse-biden-administration-china-russia/

    And those aren’t the only inconvenient truths the Western media would rather its audience not know about.

    On April 6, just days after Zelensky had a lengthy telephone conversation with US President Joe Biden, in which the US leader pledged America’s “unwavering support,” Zelensky placed a call to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, in which he expressed Kiev’s desire to become a card-carrying member of the US-led military block. Just a coincidence, right?

    “NATO is the only way to end the war in Donbass,” Zelensky said, which may have been the funniest one-liner the former actor-comedian has ever uttered in his career.

  257. “A generation which ignores history has no past and no future.” – Robert Heinlein

    In the 1920s the Soviet Union established itself as a totalitarian state with a communist ideology. The new socio-economic structure didn’t have a place in its hierarchy for a Ukrainian farm owner. A typical citizen of the Soviet Union was an impersonal comrade with no nationality, property, family ties or personal values. The population, which the state was trying to gradually enslave, resisted such changes. The state went all the way in its yearning to break the back of the nation through uprooting the Ukrainian village. They confiscated all kinds of provisions, even the cooked and served meals from people’s tables. Then they cut off the access to supplies and banned any moving in or out. Millions of Ukrainians lost their lives because of the Soviet regime policy, which was aimed at them. Today this crime is classified as a genocide against the Ukrainian nation.

    Not only did the Holodomor alter national demographics, but it also had a huge impact on people’s values. The aim of the Soviet communist totalitarian regime was to concentrate all the resources in the state’s possession, to break the nation’s back by turning Ukrainian farm owners into impersonal kolhosp members. These changes were supposed to forcibly create a new outlook of a new Soviet citizen, and in the case with rebellious Ukrainians in the cruellest way possible — through slow annihilation by starvation.
    Starvation influences the physical and psychological state of a person and changes one’s personality. In the case of the Holodomor, the trauma remained unexpressed and existed only in family narratives. Today Ukrainians are called a “postgenocide society”. Therefore, the objective for the current generation is to comprehend the scale of the changes that took place in the 1930s, and to find an approach on how to live with them in the 21st century.

    https://ukrainer.net/holodomor-influence-ukraine/

  258. @Johnny Walker Read

    I urge all to read the full article listed above. The description of the Ukrainian mind set, then and now, as a result of the holodomor bears a striking resemblance to the mindset we witness in the streets of America today. CV, racial tension, and all of it brought on by a tyrannical government, lap dog media, and a gaggle of leftist, “woke” corporations has turned us all into post holodomor Ukrainians. It’s almost as if that’s the plan.
    Again, the link: https://ukrainer.net/holodomor-influence-ukraine/

  259. Rdm says:
    @Schuetze

    How many times, how many people need to remind you that Putin mother was not Jews?

    • Replies: @Majority of One
    , @Seraphim
  260. Robjil says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Therefore, the objective for the current generation is to comprehend the scale of the changes that took place in the 1930s, and to find an approach on how to live with them in the 21st century.

    The Galicians, northwestern Ukrainians, gave the strongest support to the US Zion coup. It is quite bizarre that they chose a Kagan to rule over them again after that. Perhaps, the reason for this is that the Galicians were not effected by the famine since it was part of Poland in 1930s. Lazar Kagonovich was main instigator for the famine in Ukraine.

    Vicky Nuland, wife of Robert Kagan, notice the similar surname,was the main instigator for the 2014 Zion US coup in Ukraine. The Soviet Union never left this world , it just went west to the US.

    https://ww2truth.com/2020/08/03/jews-claim-newly-discovered-ukrainian-victims-of-soviet-holomodor-were-jews-gassed-by-nazis/

    The Nazis didn’t intentionally starve anyone to death — that’s what the Jews did to the Ukrainians during Soviet farm ‘collectivization’.

    And, yes, the Ukrainian men and women were often separated — which accounts for why mostly women and children were discovered in the basement.

    During the 1930s, the Jewish Bolsheviks, under direct orders from the Jew Lazar Kagonovich, at least 10 million White Christian Ukrainians were intentionally starved to death in what today is known as the Holodomor — the greatest single mass murder of the 20th century.

    That’s what the so-called “Holocaust” actually is — an clumsy attempt to blame the Nazis for crimes against humanity committed by Soviet Jews — before, during, and after WWII.

    https://theduran.com/americas-first-family-of-war-the-kagans-neocon-royalty-and-their-family-fortune-built-on-chaos-and-destruction/

    Much of this “strategy” is personified by a single Washington power couple: arch-neocon Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century and an early advocate of the Iraq War, and his wife, Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, who engineered last year’s coup in Ukraine that started a nasty civil war and created a confrontation between nuclear-armed United States and Russia.

  261. @Rdm

    Like arguing with a brick wall. That man is so wrapped up in his own preconceptions and prejudices that he is an ambulatory case of cognitive dissonance. Like a grouchy Marxist of my acquaintance, his opinions are embedded in concrete and his soul is composed of adamantine.

  262. @Robjil

    The Kagan couple, as well as the one on the Supreme Court, Like Lazar Kaganovich, happen to be Khazarian Royalty. It was the Kagan (Khan/ruler) of the Khazarian tribal nation which converted his subjects en masse to Talmudic Judaism in ca 740 A.D.

    Russian, Ukrainian, Galician, Lithuanian Jews are almost entirely Khazarian by descent—with very little admixtures of Hebrew DNA. Polish Jews in the city ghettos were almost entirely of Sephardic Jewish ancestry by way of exile from Western Europe. In rural Poland, the vast majority were Khazarians who had migrated westwards, as the Sephardim were exiled eastwards…an odd coupling, indeed.

    The “ovich” tail on Kagan signifies “son of”—as in son of o vitch. So it is linguistically evident that all three Kagans, as well as Kaganovich, were descended through one of the many wives of the Kagan rulers of the Khazarian Talmudics. Among American Jews, the largest number by far is made up of descendants of the mass of Khazarians who migrated to their new “promised land of milk and Shiksa honeys”. When they began arriving, the much earlier migrated “German” Jews shook their heads in wonder that those wriggling, screaming, mobs of 1880’s to 1914 newbies could possibly be their co-religionists.

    Among the terms which came into general use over the generations, particularly in the New York/Jersey area were such slams as “Kikes” and “Yids” that the Sephardim used to describe their cultural “brethren”.

  263. @Johnny Walker Read

    I do not like it!
    But it is true!

  264. Robjil says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Therefore, the objective for the current generation is to comprehend the scale of the changes that took place in the 1930s, and to find an approach on how to live with them in the 21st century.

    Even before the 1930s, Ukraine was a shell shocked land. It was the region nearest to the Crimean Slav slave raids. These raids held back Ukraine for centuries.

    After Russia conquered the Crimean Tartars in 1783, Ukraine had time to rebuilt for over a century until the Bolshevik Revolution set it back again.

    The Neocons , a 21st century version of Bolshevik like Jewish Power, took over Ukraine in 2014. They are holding Ukraine back again. It is very sad for Ukraine. It is also very sad and dangerous to the entire world. Since the Neocons are using Ukraine as a battering ram against nuclear powered Russia.

    https://listverse.com/2018/06/06/10-little-known-facts-from-the-crimean-slave-trade/

    Historian Alan W. Fisher has stated that two million Russians, Ukrainians, and Poles were captured and sold into slavery by Muslims between 1468 and 1694. Furthermore, the Ottoman capital of Istanbul imported as many as 2.5 million slaves from Christian Europe and parts of the Muslim and Christian Caucasus between 1450 and 1700.[2]

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Seraphim
  265. Seraphim says:
    @Rdm

    You can tell ‘them’ one million times but they won’t change their mind. ”Never let truth stand in the way of a good story”. Slander is an essential part of ‘diabolization’: ”Calomniez, calomniez, il en restera toujours quelque chose” (“Slander, slander, something will always stick”), you will always find someone to believe the unbelievable.

  266. Seraphim says:
    @Robjil

    Good to remind the ‘little known facts’ that the Muslim Crimean Tatars’ modus vivendi was the slave trade of kidnapped Russians until Russians excised that festering sore. As well as that of the Caucasian bandit tribes.

    • Agree: Robjil
  267. @Schuetze

    At the end of the kerfuffle, emperor Yid will chose his favorite, his bankers will be far richer, and the entire planet will have orders of magnitude more debt owed to the shyster jews.

    Kinda’ like the previous two world wars, don’t cha think.

  268. Easy Pete says:

    Why is the matter of Crimean drought not discussed? I must have been reading propaganda when I learnt that Russia had the choice of seizing the upper bodies of water or depopulating Crimea.

  269. Seraphim says:
    @Robjil

    How can you forget the military wing of the ‘famiglia’?
    Frederick (brother of Robert), author of the AEI* report, titled ‘Choosing Victory: A Plan for Success in Iraq’, released on January 5, 2007, which won over the ear of President George W. Bush, strongly influencing his subsequent “surge” plan for changing the course of the Iraq War.
    Kimberly Kagan (née Kessler), his wife, President of the ‘Institute for the Study of War’.
    Both Professors of Military History.

    *American Enterprise Institute

    • Thanks: Robjil
  270. @Easy Pete

    Is there a water pipe in the Kerch Strait Bridge?
    I recall seeing a picture of a water reservoir that was nearly empty. The country in Crimea looks like southern California, not much water.

  271. @alwayswrite

    Your style is that of a third grader. Still, you are lucky to be on the payroll in these times.

  272. @Robert Bruce

    Your attachment to reality is at best evanescent. Russia’s back is against the wall, but you can blame Putin for that. he wants to pretend the US is his enemy when it is actually China. One could not be blamed for wondering who the bigger enemy of Russia is, Putin or China. The first loss Putin will sustain in the far east will be Vladivostok and nearby territories.

    While Putin tries to restore Ukraine to the Russian Empire, China is licking its chops over the territory it claims in Siberia and the Russian Far East.

    I have as yet to meet any Americans that have turned into frightened children over Russia.

    • Agree: Johnny Rico
  273. @Exosome

    Other than the “sit on Fritz” your post is little more than a fantasy.

    The Allied occupation of Germany ended when the peace treaty was signed with Germany. The DR was not included because the Soviets had not ended their occupation of eastern Germany. As a result, Germany had all the powers of a sovereign country, including that of making treaties. After the victory of the socialist coalition in 1969, their foreign policy was often at odds with ours when it came to the Soviets.

    France was never subject to an Allied occupation. Any military law that was imposed in France after removing the Germans was of their own making.

    NATO countries were never ruled by the US. The truth, however, is that the US carried NATO when it came to defense from the Soviet threat. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, there has been a massive withdrawal of US forces from western Europe. The US still has a few bases, but now has less than 90,000 stationed there (with the local Germans practically begging us not to leave, and Italians begging us to come back). At the height of the cold war, close to half a million were stationed there. NATO is also a shadow of itself, with little meaning.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  274. @Robjil

    Quoting RT ends any credibility you could have possibly had. RT is simply Putinist propaganda. There was no coup in Ukraine in 2014. There was an uprising of the Ukrainian people themselves when Yanukovich backed down from signing an agreement with the EU and instead started making noises about betraying Ukraine back into Russia’s sphere of influence. Yanukovich ordered the murders on the Maidan in an attempt to put down the uprising, and when it didn’t work, he ran for asylum to his buddy Putin, who was glad to grant it. Yanukovich is still a fugitive from justice.

    Calling it coup plays into Putin’s hands. Yanukovich didn’t have to order the murders, or run and abandon his office. That’s what he chose, and the events that followed were handled lawfully. Saying there was a coup is simply spewing Putin’s lies.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Majority of One
  275. @Easy Pete

    Desalination, perhaps. Atmospheric water harvesting? Piprline from Russia? De-populate? Crap. They didn’t liberate Crimea from the Ukronazi orcs to depopulate it.

  276. @Robjil

    NATO will end the war in Donbass, and Ukraine, and possibly all of us. Did you see the pipsqueak Fuhrer in his combat gear, visiting the troops and effecting a stern, aggressive, martial expression-as if he was very constipated. The living expression or history as farce.

    • Agree: Robjil
  277. @Seraphim

    Islam was rejected because of the prohibition on alcohol.

  278. Robjil says:
    @Quartermaster

    There was no coup in Ukraine in 2014

    .

    The Kagan family would think otherwise. That is their business. A bit like Samuel Zumurray, who started the first banana republic in Honduras in 1911. Kaganovich name lives up to its name again.
    https://theduran.com/americas-first-family-of-war-the-kagans-neocon-royalty-and-their-family-fortune-built-on-chaos-and-destruction/

    But Nuland is a foreign policy force of her own, considered by some in Washington to be the up-and-coming “star” at the State Department. By organizing the “regime change” in Ukraine – with the violent overthrow of democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014 – Nuland also earned her spurs as an accomplished neocon.

    Nuland has even outdone her husband, who may get “credit” for the Iraq War and the resulting chaos, but Nuland did him one better, instigating Cold War II and reviving hostilities between nuclear-armed Russia and the United States. After all, that’s where the really big money will go – toward modernizing nuclear arsenals and ordering top-of-the-line strategic weaponry.

    https://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-violence-war-massacre-resistance/fr/document/great-ukrainian-famine-1932-33.html

    These sources include secret resolutions passed by the Politburo or the Central Committee of the Ukrainian Communist Party, Stalin’s correspondence with his closest collaborators Molotov and Kaganovich, and secret police reports on the situation in the countryside, in particular at the “collection fronts”. The documents also help to delineate the particular characteristics of the Ukrainian famine vis-à-vis other famines that ravished a slew of regions in the USSR in 1931-33, including Kazakhstan, where between 1.1-1.4 million died (or almost one third of the indigenous Kazakh population), and western Siberia and the Volga area, with several hundred thousand victims (Abylhozin, Aldazumanov and Kozybaev, 1992; Ohayon, 2006; Malyseva and Poznanskii, 1999; Ivnitskii, 2000).

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  279. Seraphim says:
    @Robjil

    That ‘Quartermaster’ is the quartermaster of the Kagans! He is distributing the cookies.

  280. @Quartermaster

    Get your facts straight. No peace treaty between any German government and the former direct occupation forces was ever signed. Don’t believe me? Do you research and find out for yourself. Technically Germany is still an occupied country and its now relatively small occupational force is still equipped with nuclear weaponry.

  281. @Quartermaster

    Woo-woo: Quarterpounder is now in the lead for the Grand Championship of the race for most badly uninformed poster on UR.

    “There was no coup in Ukraine in 2014”. Been getting into Viccious Nudelman’s cookie-jar again? Didn’t you know they were spiked with datura? Gives you strange dreams.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  282. @Majority of One

    A phone call, meddling however blatant and handing out cookies is not a coup, nitwit.

  283. Rurik says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Thank you (and gsjackson) for your kind words.

    And I very much enjoy reading your (and gs’s) comments, as well.

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