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Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin spent an hour and 14 minutes in a video conversation on Wednesday. Geopolitically, paving the way for 2022, this is the one that really matters – much more than Putin-Biden a week ago.

Kremlin press secretary Dmitry Peskov, who generally carefully measures his words, had previously hinted that this exchange would be “extremely important.”

It was obvious the two leaders would not only exchange information about the natural gas pipeline Power of Siberia 2. But Peskov was referring to prime time geopolitics: how Russia-China would be coordinating their countercoups against the hybrid war/Cold War 2.0 combo deployed by the US and its allies.

While no substantial leaks were expected from the 37th meeting between Xi and Putin since 2013 (they will meet again in person in February 2022, at the start of the Beijing Winter Olympics), Assistant to the President for Foreign Policy Yuri Ushakov did manage to succinctly deliver at least two serious bits of information.

These are the highlights of the call:

  • Moscow will inform Beijing about the progress, or lack thereof, in negotiations with the US/NATO on security guarantees for Russia.
  • Beijing supports Moscow’s demands on US/NATO for these security guarantees.
  • Putin and Xi agreed to create an “independent financial structure for trade operations that could not be influenced by other countries.” Diplomatic sources, off the record, say the structure may be announced by a joint summit in late 2022.
  • They discussed the Biden-hosted “Summit for Democracy,” concluding it was counterproductive and imposed new dividing lines.

Of all of the above, the third point is the real game-changer – already in the works for a few years now, and gaining definitive momentum after Washington hawks of the Victoria “F**k the EU” Nuland kind recently floated the idea of expelling Russia from SWIFT – the vast messaging network used by banks and other financial institutions to make money transfer instructions – as the ultimate sanctions package for the non-invasion of Ukraine.

Putin and Xi once again discussed one of their key themes in bilaterals and BRICS meetings: the need to keep increasing the share of the yuan and ruble in mutual settlements – bypassing the US dollar – and opening new stock market avenues for Russian and Chinese investors.

A 100 yuan bill and Russian 10 ruble coins. Photo: AFP / Demyanchuk /Sputnik
A 100 yuan bill and Russian 10 ruble coins. Photo: AFP / Demyanchuk /Sputnik

Bypassing a SWIFT mechanism “influenced by third counties” then becomes a must. Ushakov diplomatically put it as “the need to intensify efforts to form an independent financial infrastructure to service trade operations between Russia and China.”

Russian energy businesses, from Gazprom to Rosneft, know all there is to know not only about US threats but also about the negative effects of the tsunami of US dollars flooding the global economy via the Fed’s quantitative easing.

This Russia-China drive is yet another dimension of geoeconomic, geostrategic and demographic power rapidly shifting towards Eurasia and possibly foreshadowing the advent of a new world system related to other matters Putin-Xi certainly discussed: the interconnection of Belt and Road with the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU), the expanded reach of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and the coming Chinese presidency of BRICS in 2022.

The US – with US\$30 trillion in debt, 236% of its militarized GDP – is virtually bankrupt. Russia-China have already experimented with their alternative payment systems, which will inevitably integrate.

The most important banks in both countries will adopt the system – as well as banks across Eurasia doing business with them, and then vast swaths of the Global South. SWIFT, in the long run, will be used only in exceptional cases if China and Russia have their way.

Maidan redux

Now to the heart of the geopolitical puzzle.

Ushakov confirmed that the Russian Federation has submitted proposals on security guarantees to the US. As Putin himself had confirmed even before talking to Xi, it’s all about “indivisible security”: a mechanism that has been enshrined all across the territory of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe since a 1975 summit in Helsinki.

Predictably, under orders of the powers that be, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg already rejected it.

Both Xi and Putin clearly identify how Team Biden is deploying a strategic polarization gambit under good old divide-and-rule. The wishful thinking at play is to build a pro-American bloc – with participants ranging from the UK and Australia to Israel and Saudi Arabia – to “isolate” Russia-China.

That’s what’s behind the narrative thunderously splashed non-stop all across the West – to which Biden’s Summit for Democracy was also tied. Taiwan is being manipulated against Beijing while Ukraine is being literally weaponized against Russia. “China aggression” meets “Russian aggression.”

Russian and Chinese soldiers take aim in a 2018 joint military exercise. Image: Twitter
Russian and Chinese soldiers take aim in a 2018 joint military exercise. Image: Twitter

Beijing has not fallen into the trap but has asserted at different levels that Taiwan will eventually be integrated into the mainland motherland, without any ludicrous “invasion.” And the wishful thinking that massive American pressure will lead to cracks inside the Chinese Communist Party is also likely generating zero traction.

Ukraine is a much more volatile proposition: a dysfunctional nightmare of systemic instability, widespread corruption, shady oligarchic entanglements and poverty.

Washington still follows the Zbigniew Brzezinski-concocted Maidan plan laid out for cookie distributor Nuland in 2014. Yet seven years later, no American “strategist” managed to understand why Russia would fail to invade Ukraine, which has been part of Russia for centuries.

For these “strategists”, it’s imperative that Russia faces a second Vietnam, after Afghanistan in the 1980s. Well, it’s not going to happen because Moscow has no interest whatsoever in “invading” Ukraine.

It does get more complicated. The ultimate fear dictating all US foreign policy since the early 20th century is the possibility of Germany clinching a new version of Bismarck’s 1887 Reinsurance Treaty with Russia.

Add China to the combination and these three actors are able to control just about the entire Eurasian landmass. Updating Mackinder, the US would then be turned into a geopolitically irrelevant island.

Putin-Xi may have examined not only how the imperial hybrid war tactics against them are floundering against them, as well as how the tactics are dragging Europe further into the abyss of irrelevance.

For the EU, as former British diplomat Alastair Crooke points out, the strategic balance is a disaster: “The EU has virtually ruptured its relations with both Russia and China – at the same time. Washington’s hawks wanted it. A ‘European Brzezinski’ certainly would have advised the EU differently: never lose both in tandem – you are never that powerful.”

No wonder the leadership in Moscow-Beijing can’t take anyone in Brussels seriously – be it assorted NATO chihuahuas or the spectacularly incompetent Ursula von der Leyen at the European Commission.

A faint ray of light is that Paris and Berlin, unlike the Russophobic Poland and the Baltic fringe, at least prefer having some sort of negotiation with Moscow over Ukraine as opposed to slapping on extra sanctions.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov (left) meets Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Beijing on March 23, 2021. Photo: AFP / Russian Foreign Ministry / Handout / Anadolu Agency
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov (left) meets Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Beijing on March 23, 2021. Photo: AFP / Russian Foreign Ministry / Handout / Anadolu Agency

Now imagine Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov explaining the ABCs of foreign policy to a clueless Annalena “Grune” Baerbock, now posing as German foreign minister while displaying a fresh mix of incompetence and aggressiveness. She actually placed the phone call.

Lavrov had to meticulously explain the consequences of NATO expansion; the Minsk agreement; and how Berlin should exercise its right to pressure Kiev to respect Minsk.

No leaks about it should be expected from Ushakov. But it’s fair to imagine that with “partners” like the US, NATO and the EU, Xi and Putin should conclude that China and Russia don’t even need enemies.

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  1. “the US would then be turned into a geopolitically irrelevant island”

    Sit back and watch as the Feds have to make the tough choice between cutting the military/security budgets , or impoverishing the nation .

  2. Decoy says:
    @beavertales

    A large cut in our “military/security” budget is exactly what the United States needs. And next most beneficial would be the Europeans doing the same with NATO. Russia would quickly follow.

    • Replies: @bologna
    , @RadicalCenter
  3. Roberto11 says:
    @beavertales

    That choice has already been made and it wasn’t tough for them.

  4. A123 says: • Website

    Putin, Xi Running Circles Around Biden’s Hybrid War

    True… But consider:

    Governor DeSantis Running Circles Around Biden’s War on America (1)

    • Plans to bus migrants to Martha’s Vineyard
    • Ban on state & local and business licenses for those who transport illegals
    • Private companies to be held financially liabile for crimes committed by transportees (Video @~2:00)

        — America is Winning! —
        — Biden is Losing! —

    Putin and Xi are helping America by kneeing Biden in tha fork. The more Biden loses, the more MAGA and DeSantis win. Their support for Donald Trump’s agenda is appreciated.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/11/florida-governor-ron-desantis-outlines-legislation-targeting-private-sector-contractors-who-facilitate-unlawful-immigration-and-joe-bidens-human-trafficking-operations/

    • Replies: @lloyd
    , @Z-man
    , @Robert Bruce
  5. anon[232] • Disclaimer says:

    1) Regarding SWIFT – a few alternatives to SWIFT have already been working for a few years now. Something to note, SWIFT’s board of directors has 25 members:
    (11) – EU states
    (6) – USA, England, Oz, Canada
    (1) – Japan
    (1) – South Africa
    (1) – Russia
    (1) – China
    (1) – Singapore

    Washington can not ‘kick’ Russia out of SWIFT without the EU going along. Most interesting is the EU and 2 other states can ‘kick’ out the US from SWIFT.

    2) Note; Washington threatening to ‘kick’ out Russian Banks from SWIFT is a gross violation of international law. SWIFT is akin to the Red Cross Treaty or the International Postal Union.

  6. bologna says:
    @Decoy

    What America needs is to stop giving money to third world shitholes and Israel. How many billions did Obama give to Iran so they wouldnt continue nuclear weapons development? Then they continued anyway. This country was intentionally bankrupted by criminal bankers and politicians.

    This type of shit has been going on for decades. The American tax payer cant afford to support the entire planet nor should they.

  7. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov (left) meets Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Beijing on March 23, 2021. Photo: AFP / Russian Foreign Ministry / Handout / Anadolu Agency

    This is the most ludicrius photo you could have selected, Pepe. And if people are afraid of physical contact, isn’t a Chinese/japanese bow or an Indian Namaste more dignified?

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  8. anon[416] • Disclaimer says:

    The US – with US\$30 trillion in debt, 236% of its militarized GDP – is virtually bankrupt.

    Be that as it may, even as the Fed announced they would begin to taper the bond buy back and increase interest rates starting this spring, treasury yields remain at near all time low. Ten year yield barely budged at 1.47%. And 70% of our t-bills are bought by foreign entities.

    No matter how bad things are in the US, the rest of the world is in even worse shape. China is experiencing a major slowdown due to all the Covid shutdowns, same goes for all of Asia, Oceania, UK and the EU. Russia is being sanctioned to death so nothing new there with their lagging economy.

    Someone started this crazy theory that we never have to pay back what we owe, just keep printing more money. I hate to say it but it seems to be true.

  9. El Dato says:
    @bologna

    How many billions did Obama give to Iran so they wouldnt continue nuclear weapons development? Then they continued anyway.

    What do you smoke during the day? I must have a long pipe because you are really pulling Uncle Shmuel’s propaganda up the rectum.

    • LOL: Z-man
    • Replies: @professorchops
  10. @beavertales

    Pretty sure the nation is already impoverished. The Fed took on \$9 trillion in garbage from the investment banks, starting four months before Covidmania launched. They never completely got the \$4 trillion off the books from the 2008 banker welfare program. Homelessness is rampant in the US, the bridges are collapsing, and the average wage hasn’t risen with worker productivity in fifty years. There is no real way to dampen the inflation that this \$9 trillion welfare cheque for Goldman Sachs and pals is inducing.
    Catch the wave of early 1970-level inflation that we saw once the US floated the petro-dollar!
    Hang ten!

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Franz
  11. Trending, tendencies, as things are going over years and now months:

    Money, the accountability of money, the dollar and his out of wedlock siblings, the Euro, the Yen, then some, will become gradually absurd inside and inter-economies as denominators of value and ultimately power. The accelerator is apparent, Russia and China will withhold part of the total sum of transactions inter-economies, thus making the accounting of the Feds and Western central banks, investment banks, meaningless to the middle classes, then inside the local economies to the masses.

    Reversing this means toppling the power elites, especially the behind the curtains organizers, and root them out of generational participation in governance. This cannot be done with a whoring middle-class that sacrifices it’s own siblings, much so as “dept” is shoving abomination into the future by the mooting elites themselves.

    Some freaks have shown their cards, the surplus population is attributed as no longer worth capitalizing on. Thus making taxes, growth, depth and other theoretical bile into derivatives not yardsticks, of long term sustenance of populations encased in their environments.

    There were many unforgivable mistakes, all induced by the failing of the quality of goal setting. Crowing on a pile of dung, the Jewish elites mindset at work.

  12. @anon

    2) yes but since when does Wazhington care about international law when it wants to do something?
    Let us also be honest – Russia has no illusion of the EU not bowing to the US like it did with Iran (though China still has some but it is quickly fading away like a fog hit by sunshine).

  13. lloyd says: • Website
    @A123

    A good start. But DeSantis in in complete thrall to Israel, maybe more than any other American political leader. I get the impression there is a war going on between cultural marxism and christian zionism. Jews control both. De Santis brings in laws banning cultural race theory but puts in its place, mandatory Holocaust studies. In America, a huge thing is made about white identity by its advocates and white supremacy by its enemies. But outside these circles, the ethnic origin counts which is what you pick up at the kitchen table. De Santis appears to be of French origin and I suspect idealises French occupation of North America including Florida. The white anglo saxon protestant descendants who figure in politics today all appear to be coloured and naturally identify with that. Now Trump is German descent and appears to be breaking away from the hold over him of the Kushners. Now that is something to be watched in 2024. Then there is Irish descended Robert Kennedy. His popularity is surging over covid. Will he make a presidential bid in 2024? Unlike the previous generation of Kennedys, he won’t be a lamb to the slaughter. Only he could realistically defeat Trump in a legitimate election.

    • Thanks: RedpilledAF
  14. lloyd says: • Website
    @lloyd

    Why does DeSantis support Israel to an astonishingly servile level? He seems too clever to be a Christian Zionist and his origins don’t suggest it. I suspect he touts as a pragmatist for the Jewish retiree single issue vote. He would admire Israel as an ethnic white State dishing it out to the wogs. But he doesn’t know or closes his mind that Israel is also a thief and war monger. He may be amenable to change his mind.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  15. They gotta stop with the elbow bumps. It’s so wussy.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  16. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @anon

    Someone started this crazy theory that we never have to pay back what we owe, just keep printing more money. I hate to say it but it seems to be true.

    Yeah. Golden Calf-worshiping ((Jews)). “It seems to be true”? That’s what they thought too, until Moses whacked them.

    There’s no free lunch, even for ((Jew)) grifters. Eventually, they’ll pay.

    P.S. Is Orwell’s 1984 your fantasy scenario? Oceania vs Eastasia vs Eurasia? Because that’s where your demented ((Jewish)) thinking leads.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  17. Security guarantee is of course Russia’s top priority. It is really like a spirit of confusion with Atlantacists. On what planet did they think surrounding Russia with NATO would somehow make Russia get scared and retreat… No… And contrary to the Soviets – the Russian Federation understands not to over spend on military but develop weapons NATO cant defend against.
    China understands the same thing (though it has a bigger budget than Russia)….
    Now both are working to make their economies survivable by a NATO attack.. The Global South rejoices expecting they wont end up like Libya or Iran/Venezuela if they decide not to follow NATO orders (which includes IMF – World Bank – etc)

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  18. Cuffy says:
    @bologna

    Hey Quackamole you are a morbid embarrassment

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  19. Baxter says:

    Putin is not ancient, though he is getting up there in years. At some point he will reach a point of diminishing returns in his work. I wonder if he has a successor in mind and if he is grooming someone to takeover after his time runs out. I seems to me very likely a man like Putin would want to relinquish the ship of state to someone he finds suitable.

    • Replies: @John Q Duped
  20. @lloyd

    It’s silly to accuse DeSantis of being beholden to Z’rael since all prez candidates are. The Chose even briefly let obozo get away with trash talking them to keep him on his short leash.

    #DeSantis24 has shown leadership Trump never did. He hates (((fake news))) and has fought #covidhoax. He’s the best candidate by far, and I suspect he’s more Jew-wise than Jew-beholden.

    • Agree: Ukraine Tiger
    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  21. A123 says: • Website
    @lloyd

    Infidels (Christians & Jews) are natural allies against the horror of Islamic invasion & settlement. DeSantis is against foreign colonies in Christian Florida. DeSantis supports native Palestinian Jews in their struggle against foreign Muslim colonization. The two positions are logically connected.

        Muslim Colonies are the problem.
        Muslim Decolonization is the answer.

    If you want American politician who will go down on knees to service the Mullahs, you need an Omar or possibly a Kamala. MAGA Christians will never submit before Muhammad. Submission is an act of personal & religious weakness. Of course, any politician immoral enough to submit is too weak to lead America. This best such a spiritual vacuum could obtain is helpless puppet status, like Not-The-President Biden.

    PEACE 😇

  22. @A123

    Of course, coming from this vile, racist, Sabbat Goy liar, the truth is the opposite. The Talmudists who dominate Israel religiously and through their secular bastard offspring, the Zionazis, REVILE Christians. They make a habit on spitting on Christian churches and graveyards, and believe that Jesus is in Hell, up to his neck in boiling faces, and his mother Mary was a whore. They far prefer Moslems because they are not ‘idolators’, but they hate ALL goyim, even arse-kissers like you.

    • Agree: Badger Down
  23. @Decoy

    Wholeheartedly agree that the US “defense” budget is actually bloated to carry out prolonged unnecessary wars of aggression and occupation.

    But Russia absolutely should not, and likely would not, cut their own defense spending or the size of their armed forces. There’s that little matter of CHINA to deter.

  24. @bologna

    First, Iran is not a Third World country. Second, the dickhead Obama was not wrong to merely unfreeze and not steal assets/funds that already rightly belonged to Iran.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  25. @anon

    Totally untrue, arrogant, out-of-touch wishful thinking. Many countries are advancing, modernizing, and allowing more economic and personal freedom than the US regime is nowadays.

    Many other countries aren’t saddled with the crushing levels of government and household debt that the US has.

    Embarrassing that you either don’t realize or won’t admit that the US is going down, perhaps hard. Pretending it’s not happening will only cause people to avoid trying to ameliorate our severe economic and social problems, and they’ll keep getting worse.

    The currency will decline drastically against some of the world’s currencies, including the Ruble.

    My family will keep converting our USD savings into other currencies, as well as saving to buy real estate abroad rather than here. You can keep wishful-thinking and go down with the ship if you like.

    • Agree: Realist, W
  26. @beavertales

    USA just approved 770 Billion for 1 year’s worth of Defense ( Offense ) spending and NOT a whisper –and it has been the case that similar amounts have been approved for the last 5/6 years–Donald Trump sitting there with a foot thick package first term in office — BUT —when the public needs 1.5 Trillion for public improvements —-all chaos erupts and USA does NOT have the coin. Oddly–the 1% had its tax rates lowered and Trump reduced the corporate tax rates –MainStreet is paying the shot but getting the shaft in its rear end ——

  27. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    They had a choice ” We want Barabbas !!” and Barabbas was a thief-murderer criminal. Earlier times–Moses returned from the mountain top after meeting the Almighty and they are worshipping —the golden calf. They were ready to stone Jesus on occassion and did not like when Jesus told them “you have slain the prophets in the temple” and Judas was a good find—-he sold out Jesus for 30 pieces of silver –and this was stated as truth by Zecchariah —–all points to –” From walking up and down the earth and all that is in it” and this speaker is addressing the Almighty and his name is satan—Job 1. Satan is the king of Israel —

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  28. @A123

    Native Palestinian Jews? No such thing, you crackpot. The oppressed, imprisoned, house-demolished Palestinians, not allowed on Jewish roads, are the nearest thing to the ancient Hebrews today.

    Neturei Karta, the ultra-orthodox Jews of that name, are explicit that Israel has no right to exist and they want to live at peace in the Palestinian state.

    • LOL: A123
  29. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    How do the chinese feel about whites (especially American whites)? Do you think the chinese hate american whites less than jews do? The comments I’ve read from chinese people here at unz.com leads me to believe that the chinese see whites as the devil incarnate. you certainly do.

  30. Countries are unnecessarily complicating the currency exchange issues. They readily accept to match their currencies against the American dollar, even though all currencies and the American dollar are manipulated; but once they leave the dollar, they do not agree upon a common yardstick to measure their currencies’ worth (that is the essential function of the dollar), saying that all yardsticks are manipulated!

    Gold and precious metals offer one good yardstick. But an even better, though unusual, yardstick would be the energy unit kWh.

    The function of SWIFT is not just transferring money between banks; SWIFT is the mechanism by which new dollars are created out of thin air. This must be kept in mind while designing an alternative.

  31. It doesn’t take a theoretical physicist to comprehend the fact that Russia and China are at war with USA- GlobalHomoZioBIGsRxMIC3BLM. I mean, seriously???, how do you fight a bunch of gender queers who are given orders to mount weapon systems they don’t know how to use because they’re white CO’s are under CRT military rules of combat engagement to comply with UN mandates that 2SLGBTQQIAPWXYZ are the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen.
    That’s just silly. (Lisping).

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
    , @Badger Down
  32. Escher says:

    A faint ray of light is that Paris and Berlin, unlike the Russophobic Poland and the Baltic fringe, at least prefer having some sort of negotiation with Moscow over Ukraine as opposed to slapping on extra sanctions.

    Considering their history with the Russian empire and later the Soviet Union, some degree of Russophobia is to be expected.
    Ask the Tibetans how they feel after being demographically swamped by Han hordes.

    • Replies: @Yee
    , @EugeneGur
    , @Showmethereal
  33. Franz says:
    @rufus clyde

    Pretty sure the nation is already impoverished.

    Most people think so.

    The next shoe dropping will be the unproductive suburbanites finding out that it’s going to be much easier to downsize them in the 21st century than it was to dump autoworkers and steel workers back in the 20th.

    They had to reconfigure the whole supply chain to dump those guys. But getting rid of gender studies professors and critical race theorists…

    Hey, I think there’s going to be a bull market in selling tickets for that.

  34. @lloyd

    I agree, but his speech impediment will hinder his ability to get across his message. But who knows, it may be to his advantage. I wish him the best in the best of all possible worlds.

  35. Miro23 says:

    A potential major blow to the Empire.

    Putin and Xi agreed to create an “independent financial structure for trade operations that could not be influenced by other countries.” Diplomatic sources, off the record, say the structure may be announced by a joint summit in late 2022.

    The most important banks in both countries will adopt the system – as well as banks across Eurasia doing business with them, and then vast swaths of the Global South. SWIFT, in the long run, will be used only in exceptional cases if China and Russia have their way.

    The map of countries that only recognize China (not Taiwan) is a good proxy of Chinese influence vs. the US, and it already covers most of Africa, the MIddle East, Central Asia and SE Europe with countries in South America making the switch.

    They will be OK with a new international interbank payments system meaning that Europe will HAVE TO offer it as an alternative and US dollar hegemony comes to an end (with everything that that implies). New IITP ? (International Interbank Transfer Protocol)

  36. @anon

    “Someone started this crazy theory that we never have to pay back what we owe, just keep printing more money. I hate to say it but it seems to be true”
    It is true — but only if the debt is purely denominated in US dollars.

  37. Levtraro says:
    @anon

    It’s actually easy to gather a majority to cut Russian banks out of SWIFT. All EU directors would follow plus SA and Japan and possibly Singapore. Two considerations though make kicking Russian banks out of SWIFT a stupid move. One, the cutting off may not be effective if China remains inside. Two, the harm to SWIFT’s brand will be substantial. SWIFT sells itself as universal, strictly neutral, all-encompassing, and unique. That will be lost by kicking out Russian banks because of political reasons.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  38. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I believe that there were always some Jews residing in Palestine, but not many. After Zionazism came into being the country was invaded by foreign Jews, most always intent on eventually driving out the Indigenous Palestinians, a people comprised of all the many ethnicities and religions that have lived in the region, over tens of millennia, including Jews who converted to Christianity and/or Islam. 123 is pure Evil viciousness, the type the Talmudists prefer in their Sabbat Goyim.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  39. Who would have thought that Americans would roll their wagon trains around Russia and China as leaders for the future of civilization.
    I’m having difficulty supporting the babbling buffoon and his Willie lap dancing VP. They’re so out of touch with reality, even a gay frog would want to self suicide.
    Save the frogs.
    Thanks Alex Jones – InfoWars.com or resetwars.com or whatever channel he’s allowed to broadcast from.

  40. @GomezAdddams

    I can’t do ‘they’. Some Jews, many Jews, a few Jews-but not ‘all’. No collective in history is uniformly monstrous or angelic all the time. The leadership of Jewry, however, does seem always to have been xenophobic, untrustworthy, avaricious and supremely vicious, and that is most certainly true of Israel’s leadership and the top dogs in the Western slave States. Mind you, Judaic unpleasantness may have made them almost uniformly unloved, but they are still extant. Almost all their contemporaries from the Late Bronze Age Near East are gone, subsumed by other ‘peoples’. Is that a bad thing, in the end?

    • Replies: @CosmicMythos
  41. AndrewR says:
    @RadicalCenter

    China would also cut its military budget if the US did.

    The whole world is being held hostage by Israel and Halliburton.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  42. Ayax says:

    “… the third point is the real game-changer – already in the works for a few years now, and gaining definitive momentum after Washington hawks of the Victoria “F**k the EU” Nuland kind recently floated the idea of expelling Russia from SWIFT – the vast messaging network used by banks and other financial institutions to make money transfer instructions. …”

    May I propose the name for the new China-Russia+ financial system to replace the sanctions prone SWIFT system.?

    It should be named: Global Interbank Financial Telecommunication = GIFT

    The new system will be a relief from the sanctions driven foreign policies of the Western block.

  43. AndrewR says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Iran has some very poor areas, and the regime sends a lot of money to Arabs in the Levant instead of investing in Iran.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  44. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:

    Russia has been slow as always waiting for handouts from “western partners “. A SWIFT alternative should have established at least five years ago. All the illegal sanctions should have jolted them from their apathy

    • Agree: Aedib
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  45. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Russia will never “invade” Ukraine.

    However…

    12,000 Airborne and Spetsnaz forces will land in Kiev and other places 2 hours after Putin’s order to “regulate” the Jews in control of Ukraine. The Ukrainian Armed Forces will be simply bypassed and provided a warning not to interfere, as RSOF and VDV units surround and capture all of the 2014 Nudelman Gang Criminals.

    Within 48 hours of their landings, Zelensky, Poroshenko, Kolomoisky, and their respective gangs will be on their way to Yekaterinburg to stand trial on War Crimes charges… 10,000+ murders of Donbass citizens primarily.

    If a few of these Jews die “fleeing”, it would be seen as the earliest possible justice.

    • Replies: @Walter
    , @The_MasterWang
  46. antibeast says:
    @anon

    Be that as it may, even as the Fed announced they would begin to taper the bond buy back and increase interest rates starting this spring, treasury yields remain at near all time low. Ten year yield barely budged at 1.47%. And 70% of our t-bills are bought by foreign entities.

    Not true at all. The reason why rates are so low is because the Fed has been buying up T-bills like crazy, making it the largest holder of US government debt, greater than the combined T-bill holdings of the rest of the world.

    Someone started this crazy theory that we never have to pay back what we owe, just keep printing more money. I hate to say it but it seems to be true.

    The Fed is effectively ‘monetizing’ the US government debt of \$30T by printing USD out of thin air which needs to be paid back to the Fed. Those USD are not free money but US government debt that US citizens need to pay back in taxes.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  47. Wielgus says:
    @Priss Factor

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG0L_r_KjYk “In a moment of less than supreme ecstasy, the two elbows kissed.”

  48. karel says:
    @bologna

    How many billions did Obama give to Iran so they wouldnt continue nuclear weapons development? Then they continued anyway.

    Apparently, it was not enough as Iranians still have not managed to test the bomb. Why is the American government so stingy?

  49. whodat says:
    @RadicalCenter

    The US defense posture seems geared to fight third rate powers of sell our stuff to third rate powers in regional struggles, because the GPS network centric focus of systems like the F35, drones and global data sharing … are all useless against a first rate ECM and space capable power like Russia or China. The F35 pig and its blind drone wing man friends will flounder around blindly in a hot war with satellite links broken and unable turn on radar to break stealth, so a heavy electronic battlefield capable enemy at this warfare tier level will cause this to be not a good option : the only decision left will be ignominious loss or all out nuclear war.
    This means that heavy kinetic combat with Russia or China , the middle tier electronic but short of WWIII level, will be a hard sell if the issues at stake are not truly of core national interest, not some treaty. So we continue to sell F35’s to Israel to beat up Syria and Iran, which must have been the idea all along.

    • Thanks: Emerging Majority
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  50. Z-man says:
    @A123

    That image of DeSantis and sleepy Joe; Ronny may be better than ‘Coked up, medicated’ Joe domestically but they are both owned by Big Joo.

  51. Z-man says:
    @AndrewR

    Agreed.
    As I brilliantly said elsewhere, there should be a 10% across the board cut in the US budget. Certainly some good programs that directly help Americans should be spared but then other bloated departments should make up the difference. Now 10% might put some angry former federal employees out there in the public, but I’ll takes me chances. (Grin)

    Just a note about this guy Escobar. As much as I can appreciate his views especially when indirectly attacking The Cabal, his virulent hatred for America is obvious and clouds his judgment.
    America First!
    Build That Wall!!!
    No more NEOCONS!

    • Replies: @anon
  52. A few hours ago I drove passed a convoy of 24 military vehicles headed east just east of Zaporozhye.

  53. @CelestiaQuesta

    I think that the entire world is too intertwined economically for there to be an all out ww2 kind of war. That will never happen. If some incident does occur it will quickly be resolved by the world police. The internet and the modern economy have ensured there wont be an all out war anywhere. Skirmishes sure(India-Pak/Pal- Israel)But no war..

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  54. Levtraro says:
    @Anon

    So you say Russia should’ve created an alternative SWIFT to transfer value with whom? With Belarus, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan? How would Russia make German banks join the alternative SWIFT that you say Russia should’ve created 5 yr ago?

  55. @anon

    “Someone started this crazy theory that we never have to pay back what we owe, just keep printing more money. I hate to say it but it seems to be true. ”

    That is why the likes of Russia and China are moving away from transactions in USD. They have been working at it for at least a decade and particularly since 2014. Both countries now buy with USD and sell for their own currencies or real value assets such as gold. Last time I looked, the Chinese held over a trillion USD in bonds, if only they would call them in or just buy Manhattan for OneUSDTrillion. I mean that would be a \$999,999,999,876 windfall, would it not?

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Joe Wong
  56. @GomezAdddams

    Typical Trumpkin repugnat logic always protects the J

  57. MLK says:

    In all principal ways, the weak and thoroughly compromised “Biden” regime is a replay of Yeltsin, circa 1996-99. Curiously, even incisive observers such as this author ignore the collapsed situation within the US.

    This even though we’re approaching a full year into a well-honed routine in which the US administration and government ratchets up the shouting and self-defeating provocations as cover for the inevitable geopolitical gifting to foreign powers of every description in return doing their part to keep the illegitimate regime in place.

    Both Xi and Putin clearly identify how Team Biden is deploying a strategic polarization gambit under good old divide-and-rule.

    Nonsense. First unwittingly and then by collaborationist design, the USG beginning in 2000, has made best and impressively successful efforts to drive Russia into a Strategic Alliance with China. Trump was a four year exception, which is why “Trump Must Go!” was ratcheted up, culminating in the all hands on deck steal of his 2020 landslide win.

    Putin understood what 2014 represented — and that it was not within his power to break the Chinese grip. He had to accept that neutralizing the threats to vital Russia interests could only come through an alliance with CCP China because that’s what the corrupted USG insisted upon.

    Now this is culminating in a lose-lose for the US and those states reliant on it for security. Either “Biden” agrees to Russia’s demands, completing the designed humiliation of the USG that Obama was unable to complete in time; or, worse, Russia achieves its objectives kinetically with China moving at the same time in the South China Sea.

  58. Walter says:

    In our time the physics of nuclear explosives is well-understood. There is no technical need to test a basic simple bomb. No Country that has wanted an n-bomb has ever failed to get a nice big bang on the first try. see> https://www.atomicheritage.org/history/nth-country-experiment

    If Iran wants n-bombs they can make them quite easily, probably from the parts they have on the shelf, and do it in a few days.

    They don’t want n-bombs. That’s why they don’t have any. And they don’t need them. RDX works just fine.

    Meantime> target map>

    Policies can change. It would not be a good idea to create the situation where Iran changed her mind.

    …..

    Pepe’s insight about the fate of the US, it’s becoming an irrelevant island, accords with the basic strategy of land power. Kettle and isolate, and starve.

    However the US is at present hysterical and desperate…and may well create a “hail Mary” war. One goal would be to provide a reason to “postpone” any more elections and “suspend pro tempore” what’s left of Constitutional Law. Another to disguise the clotshot waves of deaths.

    • Thanks: GMC
  59. Seems like the Biden administration is applying a steroid version of the Cloward-Piven strategy on everything USA. So could Putin-Xi running their circles around a hybrid war not be the desired outcome? Ultimately all three have the same London based banker clan to answer to. Seems like the US has had its run, and time for bargain hunting by the approved buyers for the natural resources. China “ruling” the world is up next, and it will suck. Think human locusts. Russia can be the proverbial punching bag when the need is called for. Good times ahead for all, but at least we won’t be leading it. Victory enough for haters…I guess.

  60. Carolina says:

    A faint ray of light is that Paris and Berlin, unlike the Russophobic Poland and the Baltic fringe, at least prefer having some sort of negotiation with Moscow over Ukraine as opposed to slapping on extra sanctions.

    The Hypocrisy of the European Position
    (excerpts)
    https://truthaboutrussia2019.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-hypocrisy-of-european-position.html

    [MORE]

    The truth of the matter is that 1. Germany needs Russia a lot more than Russia needs Germany 2. Europe in all her uber-hypocricy needs Russia a lot more than Russia needs Europe and Russia knows this and now acknowledges this, stating plainly several times, such as the meeting between FM Lavrov and EU(SSR) FM Borrell, that the EU is an unreliable partner to deal with. 3. economic isolation of a nation with vast trading networks with China, SE Asia, India, Africa and Latin America, means an isolated Europe from the 5th largest economy in the world, a full service economy that no one EU(SSR) republic can hold a claim to.

    Additionally, after 8 months of deriding and laughing at the Russian vaccine work, all of the EU(SSR), except for Hungary, suddenly finds itself in another hypocritical situation. President Orban of Hungary is the only European leader who actually has a working brain and cares about his people. Hungary showed the EU(SSR) the middle finger on the EU(SSR)’s decree that Sputnik V would not be allowed in the EU(SSR) and went ahead and registered it and delivered it to its people, producing it locally with Russian assistance. At this point, Orban has got to have that feeling he is back in the Warsaw Pact…being scolded, ordered around and colour revolutioned by the EU(SSR) elites.

  61. @Baxter

    That’s normally how it works especially when you’ve got foreign enemies hanging around your doorstep.

  62. Avery says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    {…., if only they would call them in….}

    They can’t and they won’t.
    Chinese are much smarter than that.
    US would default, and wouldn’t pay.

    And China’s economy benefits greatly from the US market: I go to Home Depot and Lowes often, and there isn’t much there that ISN’T stamped “Made in China”.
    China needs US markets not to crash, to wind down slowly.

    But you are correct that Russia and China are gradually decoupling from US dollar, and accumulating gold*. The process will take decades, but eventually US dollar will be dethroned. Really smart financial guy Jim Rogers talks about this often. He gives the example of British pound sterling being the world currency at one time. Now…….

    _________________________________________________
    * https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-12/russia-s-583-billion-reserves-now-hold-more-gold-than-dollars

    [Russia for First Time Holds More Gold Than U.S. Dollars in \$583 Billion Reserves] Jan 12, 2021

    [A multi-year drive to reduce exposure to U.S. assets has pushed the share of gold in Russia’s \$583 billion international reserves above dollars for the first time on record.
    Gold made up 23% of the central bank’s stockpile as of the end of June 2020, the latest date for which data on the breakdown is available, according to a report published late Monday. The share of dollar assets dropped to 22%, down from more than 40% in 2018.]

    • Replies: @Emerging Majority
  63. Once Macron is replaced the French State will re-orientate towards Russia as 1891-1894 and Germany will decline as France brings Club Med Nations into its EU Bloc.

    Germany is run by student politicians with Scholz vying with Soeder for belated fitting of a black uniform – both arrived too late for their disposition.

    Germany has a very weak government with a very turbulent societal future as its last export industry folds. China is the dominant force in the German economy as supplier and marketplace. Germany will increasingly align with China as it has been been sucked into dependence. – 20% Daimler belongs to China and increasingly its cars and engines will be sourced from China.

    BMW is moving X5 production from Spartanburg, SC to China.

    VW depends on China.

    China has bought up so many Germany technology-based SMEs and shipped know-how to China.

    Germany will lose the rest of its manufacturing base as it is already short of skilled manpower and has created a dystopia of high taxes, high electricity costs, unpleasant atmosphere for foreign nationals, and a lack of innovation or competition. – Asia is prospectively way ahead.

    European demographics coupled with the morbidity of death vaccines will not enhance future prospects.

    • Replies: @Emerging Majority
  64. Thim says:

    Trump is gone and now a cabal of very smart and professional Jews are in charge, you can call this cabal ‘the Biden’. Though Biden himself has no idea what is going on.

    As (((Kerry))) revealed, the French were in such a childish tantrum, as they are apt to do, over an arms deal, that they recalled their Ambassador, but Biden himself knew nothing of it.

    The Biden is having some success. They have stopped Nord Stream 2, and have gotten the Europygmies on board for a new war in Donbass.

    Moscow will stand by only so long. The Biden will commit increasing atrocities infinitum until Moscow is forced to intervene. Then, Wala, like magic, ”Putin has invaded Ukraine’.

    I’m not sure it was the right decision in 2014 to reject the request of the two provinces to be incorporated into Russia. If he is forced to invade, will he just take the Black Sea coast as well?

    The Biden is certainly hoping so. Provocation after provocation, that is the goal. Pepe sees what he wants to see. The situation is reality is far more complicated.

  65. @Walter

    USA may not be a Union by 2024

    • Replies: @Walter
  66. Agent76 says:

    Apr 4, 2019 NATO EXIT: Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

    NATO is a criminal entity, an instrument of the Pentagon. There is no “Alliance”. There is military Occupation.

    Nov 29, 2016 The Map That Shows Why Russia Fears War With US

  67. Mefobills says:
    @antibeast

    The Fed is effectively ‘monetizing’ the US government debt of \$30T by printing USD out of thin air which needs to be paid back to the Fed. Those USD are not free money but US government debt that US citizens need to pay back in taxes.

    QE is a swap operation. Buying TBills from private banks changes the composition of the private banks ledger. It is something like a private citizen swapping from their savings account to checking account. There was no real net position change, only composition.

    The TBills leave the private banks ledger, and end up on the FED’s ledger. The private banks get a dollar as an asset in swap.

    The QE action then holds up TBill price, and lowers interest rates.

    The lowered interest rates, then cause PRIVATE DEBTS to increase. People rush out to buy houses with cheap credit.

    This is the real problem, private debts. Public debts can stay on the ledger forever, and not be recalled.

    Rule of thumb: If the Federal Govt raises deficit spending, then that is new public debt with offsetting dollars, that finds its way into the general transaction money supply. If the FED or the private banking system does QE, then that is a swap – a composition change within their private banks (reserve loops).

    It would take a special legal body to look at the various debt types and where the debt instruments are lodged, and what their claims are. Most of the debts (public and private) can be erased or restructured. But, I never hear that conversation, especially from the political class.

    Private debts are especially hard to get at legally, which is why China has a permanent advantage. Many debt instruments are housed in the State Banks and hence are accessible by legal means.

    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  68. Sanjay says:

    All this is fine for the present, but in the end, genetics is what will determine the victor. And in this regard, China’s fertility rate is one offspring per female, and with a dysgenic pattern on top of that, and Russia’s fertility is quite similar. On the other hand, the Hassidic/Heredi Ashkenazim have five or more offspring per female, and the fertility is relatively eugenic. Hence, the West (Ashkenazim) will defeat Russia and China in the long run.

    • Replies: @Malla
  69. nadim says:
    @bologna

    [How many billions did Obama give to Iran so they wouldnt continue nuclear weapons development?]

    You the zionist propagandist must do better than this to keep your apartheid shit. The money was Iran’s money that was blocked by the Zionist thieves that you kiss their behinds. A lot more of Iranian’s money is still blocked and Iran will take it out of your throat. Israel is showered by the American TAX money with Billions of dollar to be used against the regional states to creat CHOAS and wars which the west needs to rule its colonies in the region like Saudi Arabia, Turkey and UAE.
    Putin is part of the game as well by being silent to Israel bombing of Syria on a daily basis. But this situation soon will seize to exist idiot.

    Go and find another place to live because you are going to be homeless soon. No one wants you in the region. The US and Russia who voted for the erection of the apartheid entity are responsible and must pay for it. Both US and Russia and the rest of the colonies like France, Britain, Germany are supporting a terrorist state with nuclear weapons and parroting “Israel has a right to defend itself.” People are fed up with your STUPID slogan. These ‘leaders’ are in the pocket of the Jewish mafia, weather is Biden, Putin or Johnson, the clown or the new ‘leaders’ of Germany all behind kissers.
    No one has respect for traitors.

  70. Yee says:
    @Escher

    Ask the Tibetans how they feel after being demographically swamped by Han hordes.

    Half of the Tibetan population don’t live in Tibet, they live in Han provinces, you moron. Tibet is 92% Tibetan, worry about your own demographic.

    • Replies: @anon
  71. “The US – with US\$30 trillion in debt, 236% of its militarized GDP – is virtually bankrupt.”

    America is the place where all tyrants send its offspring to get schooling and their mommies for shopping and naturally they maintain a pied-à-terre just in case there is coup against their harsh rule to escape to the land of the free. So, what is the value of the USA? Incalculable! A thousand trillion debt would not change a thing.

  72. Eudion2 says:
    @beavertales

    Unfortunately, they won’t find that a tough choice.

  73. A123 says: • Website
    @Walter

    In our time the physics of nuclear explosives is well-understood. There is no technical need to test a basic simple bomb. If Iran wants [nuclear] bombs they can make them quite easily, probably from the parts they have on the shelf, and do it in a few days.

    They have insufficient quantity of bomb grade fissile material and no way to obtain it. That is why everyone is keeping track of their centrifuge operations.

    If they obtain enough material, perhaps they could construct one simple (but reliable) fission bomb that is too large for mussile delivery. How would sociopath Khamenei get it to Jewish Palestine? The ship would mysteriously sink, vanish, or possibily explode at the Iranian port during loading.

    They don’t want n-bombs. That’s why they don’t have any. And they don’t need them. RDX works just fine.

    Sociopath Khamenei is so desperate for a bomb he is driving his own country to financial ruin. (1)

    Eighty percent of Iranians are currently living below the poverty line. Accounts of self-immolation or suicide due to poverty are covered even by state-run media on a daily basis. Inflation has crossed the 45% threshold. Point-to-point inflation of necessary items is 66.7 percent, according to the state-run ISNA news agency. Institutionalized corruption and bribery permeate the economy. The unbridled import of goods by the IRGC has effectively destroyed local manufacturing, resulting in high unemployment.

    it will be forced to sign on to a deal that would see the loss of its enriched uranium stockpile, accepting permanent monitoring by IAEA, signing on to FATF, accepting restrictions on its missiles program, and effectively dismantling the Quds Force and proxy forces from countries of the region.

    This second path will map a new era for the region, forcing the regime’s internal repression to loosen up, thereby resulting in a total collapse of the regime in Tehran.

    The fall of the Mullahs will help the entire region, starting with their own citizens that are ruthlessly oppressed. Further afield, the collapse of Hamas and Hezbollah will allow peace and reconstruction efforts in Lebanon and Syria to proceed. Everybody wins!

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/11/what_could_trigger_irans_mullahs_demise.html

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Mefobills
  74. @lloyd

    DeSantis is an Italian name, not French.

    DeSantis’s paternal grandparents immigrated here from Italy and his father was Ronald Daniel DeSantis.

    DeSantis’s mother was named Rogers. Possible that she had some French heritage but no particular reason to think so.

    As for RFK junior, he will be mocked and trounced if he were foolish enough to run for the Dem presidential nomination. A large portion of the Dems’ hysteric authoritarian base will viciously oppose him for refusing to go along with the erection of this surveillance-and-digital-control society.

    As for Trump supposedly breaking away from the Kushners’ warmongering and disloyal (to America) influence, suffice it to say that you are Charlie Brown and Trump is Lucy promising that THIS time, she won’t pull the football away.

    • Replies: @DrWatson
  75. Mefobills says:
    @Mefobills

    Private debts are especially hard to get at legally, which is why China has a permanent advantage. Many debt instruments are housed in the State Banks and hence are accessible by legal means.

    Above is a key feature of China’s superior industrial capitalism. Also, the belt and road will create new markets, and help the road participants acquire raw materials.

    The other feature of Industrial Capitalism is that debt instruments always have a twin, the credit that they spawned.

    If you have industrial capitalism, then the debt instruments tend to (tend to) have production capability on the other side.

    With (((finance capitalism))) of the West, then debt instruments are often finance engineering, and the debt claims are empty calories. They are harvesting already in place assets, rather than building production and capability.

    Shoveling around finance paper claims, and holding up their price artificially will not end well for the West.

    Any sort of economic theory that cannot separate value from price is something like poking out your eyes. It is a blinding ideology. The West is caught in a loop of false ideology where they think the dollar price is the only measuring stick for the world. The hypnosis is that the world must be indebted and the debt instruments must be priced in Federal Reserve Notes euphemized as dollars (not U.S. dollars – heaven forbid).

    Real assets of the world must be turned over to the “international” then be flogged, to then make new debts to pay off old debts, to then pay an oligarchy of hidden string pullers.

    The hidden string pullers then emit FUD (Fear Uncertainty Disease) megaphoned with their owned press, to flog the population into compliance.

    • Agree: dogbumbreath, John Regan
  76. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yee

    Sino-Tibetan is a real concept….Han Chinese and Tibetans are the same ethno-linguistic family. Although I’d say northern Han resemble Tibetans much more than southern chinese do.

  77. anon[240] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man

    ‘…As I brilliantly said elsewhere, there should be a 10% across the board cut in the US budget……’

    10% is a start, but 75% cut is the goal. Today Gov’t at all levels consumes about 42% of GDP, in 1912 it was a mere 7% of a vastly smaller (in real terms) GDP.

    Gov’t is at least 4 times too big

  78. anon[240] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    The path to a lasting Peace in the Levant is for Tel Aviv to finally accept UN Resolution 181.

    • Replies: @A123
  79. nadim says:

    The following has been done to Nabil Rajoub by the apartheid Israel where US, Russia, Germany, France voted for its erection its erection on other people’s homeland. All of them including Britain still repeat the stupid slogan in support of a terrorist state armed with Nuclear weapon ” Israel has a right to defend itself” to control the region.
    Why these states do not disarm Israel? Why don’t Russia, Germany, France, Britain and other colonies address Israel’s nuclear weapons and the WMD? Why Israel is not under sanctions? What are you afraid of?

  80. Mefobills says:
    @AndrewR

    Iran has some very poor areas, and the regime sends a lot of money to Arabs in the Levant instead of investing in Iran.

    What would you do if you were running Iran?

    It’s fairly cheap strategically and tactically to fund Hezbollah, which then keeps Israel from invading Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. Those poor areas would be even more poor, with democracy bombs raining down day and night.

    For relatively few shekels, Iran has a foreign mercenary army as its forward base, and builds Arab good will at the same time, so Wahhabism does not take over Arab brain space.

    Wahabbism in turn is part of Globo-homo finance capital, especially since the 1973 Kissinger petrodollar deal.

    Trump assassinated Iranian General Qasem Soleimani, no doubt at the behest of his Zionist puppet masters. Hezbollah has been very effective.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/death-soleimani-huge-blow-hezbollah

  81. Walter says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    Yes, my friend, it may not. Some say it’s not a Union now. I say nobody owns tomorrow. One may ask what is the basis for the US? The only reply is that the US exists through its Constitution. If the government does not obey the basic law, then the US has ceased. Of course what would remain would be some custom and a simulacrum. A fake. But a fake with very dangerous potential, weapons, rockets, bombs, and all sorts of nasty germs…under the control of people with zero loyalty to law, patriotism, or even culture, addicted to vice.

    The Country never rationalized its fundamental contradictions, and these now are tearing apart even the customs as oligarchic rogues loot what’s left.

    Melville wrote about this. So did many others.

    • Agree: Thor Walhovd
  82. Walter says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Most native Palestinian Jews converted long ago and are now Moslem. There may be, are, a few that did not. They have nothing to do with the cryptofascist brigands that live under the term “zionist”, but yes there are a few native classical observant Jewish families left. Jesus was a native Palestinian Jew.

    See, by the way Einstein’s letter 1948 to New York Times>https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948

    He makes the observation that the “zionists” and the WW2 nazis share characteristics. He was not the only guy that noticed.

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Ann Nonny Mouse
  83. Walter says:
    @Anon

    Russian prosecutors have been gathering evidence of nazi war crimes in Ukraine, and drawing up indictments. You may well assume that they intend to have trials. After all, it’s a matter of R2P and also the survival of the State. But it’s also a terrible tragedy. Evil deeds resonate for generations. We must not take pleasure in this. https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/11/23/remains-taken-from-mass-grave/

  84. GMC says:

    Since the Bankers have made sooooo much money from stealing, laundering, etc. off the USA , I don’t think they will think twice about stealing the billions that are sittin in the US banks , when the ” bail in fine print” gets zoomed up to 125%. They did it in the CCCP bank closures, and then did it again when the Old Soviet rubles, that the Russian people were holding , had a real short timeframe, in order to turn the old rubble/ rubles – for the new Rubles they have today. The people got royally fucked and so could the Americans – in the same manner. Some say it will happen by next summer , some say in a couple years , but Americans have had a very good heads up, that it Will Happen eventually.

  85. Joe Wong says:
    @bologna

    USA and EU’s aids are political promises not contractual binding commitments. People did a survey about USA and EU aids, and the finding is only 10% of USA and EU’s announced aids materialized. And most of the aids ended in the pockets of USA and EU’s businesses and their NGOs.

    The aid recipient nations dared not to complain, because if they do they will be labelled as corrupted and incompetent nations, as well as be punished by sanctions and harsh long arm jurisdiction measures by the USA and EU.

    America and EU giving money to the third world is an illusion and lies to pop up America and EU’s hypocritical moral authority, as well as to steal and cheat the third world’s wealth on the moral high ground without a sense of guilt and crime. America and EU get way more back from what they “give.”

    • Agree: dogbumbreath, Amarok
  86. @El Dato

    Why do you propagate the fiction that we gave Iran billions of dollars? It was Iran’s money, illegally taken by the USA to show their displeasure over Iran’s removal of the notoriously corrupt and cruel western puppet, the Shah?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  87. @Walter

    I’ll go with “clot-shot cover up” for 6 million, Alex

  88. @RJ Macready

    GlobalHomoZioBIGsRxMIC3-BLM have to much invested in weapons of global destruction that will decimate civilization a thousand times. Why would they not use it?
    Regardless of what Elon Musk says, global population is unsustainable and must be reduced by 7 billion so that 500 million chosen elites become guardians of earth and beyond. (See Georgia Guidestones)
    Once AI assembly becomes fully automated (AI making AI) there will be no stopping the rise of machines followed by twilights last gleaming for humanity in the flesh.

  89. Mefobills says:
    @A123

    Projection much?

    Sociopath Khamenei is so desperate for a bomb he is driving his own country to financial ruin.

    Here is the “sociopath” on nuclear weapons:

    Regarding the nuclear program of Iran, Khamenei issued a fatwa in 2003 forbidding the production, stockpiling and use of all kinds of weapons of mass destruction.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Khamenei

    Eighty percent of Iranians are currently living below the poverty line. Accounts of self-immolation or suicide due to poverty are covered even by state-run media on a daily basis. Inflation has crossed the 45% threshold. Point-to-point inflation of necessary items is 66.7 percent, according to the state-run ISNA news agency.

    And of course your quote is context free… nothing about western sanctions and inability of Iran to export oil, to then support their economy.

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/06/23/starvation-sanctions-are-worse-than-overt-warfare/

    Last week, Mr. Pompeo acknowledged to Michael J. Morrell, a former acting director of the C.I.A., that the administration’s strategy would not persuade Iranian leaders to change their behavior.

    _____________–

    “I think what can change is the people can change the government,” he said on a podcast hosted by Mr. Morrell, in what appeared to be an endorsement of regime change.

    The Trump administration isn’t leveling these sanctions because it believes they’ll cause Tehran to capitulate to Washington’s impossible list of demands; they know full well that that will never happen. What they claim, based on no evidence or historical precedent whatsoever, is that by making life so painful for the hungry and malnourished Iranian people they’ll be forced to rise up against their government to effect regime change themselves.

    ________________

    Here is Caitlin on the real sociopaths:

    Can you think of anything more sociopathic than this? Off the top of my head, I personally cannot.

    • Replies: @A123
  90. AndrewR says:
    @professorchops

    The shah was not a “puppet,” nor was he any more cruel or corrupt than the current regime. Quite the contrary.

  91. A123 says: • Website
    @anon

    Paedophilia is the core UN value: (1)

    Every year or so, allegations of sexual misconduct by peacekeepers deployed under the United Nations flag ricochet around global media, shocking international audiences.

    A few months ago, a report revealed that Burundian peacekeepers deployed in Central African Republic (CAR) have been extensively involved in the sexual exploitation and abuse of women and children.

    It led to heartfelt statements about how such abuses will not be tolerated; how they undermine the capacity and credibility of the UN and its peacekeeping efforts.

    The scandal surrounding revelations in 2015 of the violent sexual abuse of children in CAR by peacekeepers from France, Chad and Equatorial Guinea was also followed by such statements, and the adoption of Security Council Resolution 2272, which gives the Secretary-General authority to repatriate peacekeeping units or contingents where there is credible evidence of systemic or widespread sexual exploitation and abuse

    The United Nations should immediately be abolished. All UN Resolutions are inherently void acts of immorality.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/united-nations-un-peacekeeping-sexual-exploitation-abuse/12286664

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  92. @A123

    Until recent history – Jews and Muslims were more friendly with each other and saw Christians as the joint enemy. That is especially true in the Crusades. You make up too much false history. It is not necessary.

    • Replies: @A123
  93. A123 says: • Website
    @Mefobills

    Projection much?

    Nope. I am Christian, and thus do not suffer from Islamic Projection Syndrome. The projection prize is all yours.
    ___

    We all noticed you skipped the IRGC’s damage to the Iranian economy. Let me repeat

    Institutionalized corruption and bribery permeate the economy. The unbridled import of goods by the IRGC has effectively destroyed local manufacturing, resulting in high unemployment.

    Would you like to address IRGC corruption?
    Or should everyone accept your conspicuous silence as surrender?

    Khamenei issued a fatwa in 2003 forbidding the production, stockpiling and use of all kinds of weapons of mass destruction.

    If sociopath Khamenei is sincere. Why does he not cooperate with the civilized international community? Iran was caught red handed violating the the JCPOA deal while Barack Hussein was in office: (1)

    two non-partisan organizations based in Washington, DC — the Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) and the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD) — released detailed reports about Iran’s undeclared clandestine nuclear facilities as well.

    The IAEA first ignored the reports. This should not come as a surprise: the IAEA has a long history of misreporting the Islamic Republic’s compliance with the deal and declining to follow up on credible reports about Iran’s illicit nuclear activities. Iran’s clandestine nuclear sites in Natanz and Arak were revealed by the opposition group, the National Council of Resistance of Iran.

    In any event, after a significant amount of pressure was imposed on the IAEA, and after the IAEA’s chief passed away and Iran was reportedly able to moving the suspected materials out of the secret nuclear facility, inspection of the site was recently implemented.

    What was the outcome? Even though the Iranian leaders had cleaned up the facility, the IAEA’s inspectors were able to detect traces of radioactive uranium at the site. Israel’s warning and other reports had proved accurate.

    What is the penalty for an Ayatollah who openly violates his own Fatwah?

    Why is this scourge of the Iranian people still in leadership?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/14910/iran-nuclear-deal-violations

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  94. @GomezAdddams

    Under the rules of Bablyonian Money-Magick, “defense” spending inevitably trumps expenditures on infrastructure. Expenditures on gadget-laden weaponry such as the F-35 “Flying Turkey” are huge money-makers for the central Bank\$ters. “So we should spend for bridges and railroads when the profits are far larger in blood money? Give me a break”.

  95. @AndrewR

    Mohammed Reza Shah was not “a” puppet, he was twice a puppet.
    What most people forget is US/Little Britain deposed Reza Shah 1941
    (because he wanted to stay neutral), not only Mohammed Mossadegh 1953
    (because he wanted a piece of the oil profits).
    It doesn´t get toadier than that.

    • Agree: Sisifo
    • Replies: @republic
  96. A123 says: • Website
    @Showmethereal

    I have made nothing up. Your statement is irrelevant, and a transparent attempt at distraction.

    The key FACT is — Islam is not indigenous to Palestine.
    The SOLUTION is — Palestine must be returned to its only two native faiths, Judaism & Christianity.

    There is no other way.

    PEACE 😇

  97. PJ London says:
    @anon

    Don’t be silly, SWIFT is a private company with the majority of the shares owned by 3 -4 American Banks.
    It has been a puppet of US since the inception. If you remember, the CIA had every single SWIFT message world-wide copied for “Terrorist Funding” investigation. This is an ongoing investigation.
    The USA took ten minutes to get Iran expunged from the SWIFT network. They could switch off Russia or China just as quickly, but the outcry would be large and the countries could switch over to alternatives in days.
    It would cause a huge problem to the Commercial banks of the West much more than to either China or Russia.
    The problem with SWIFT is that because of its’ age and spread, millions of programs in thousands of banks are tuned to the messaging formats of SWIFT. To change the programs would take many years.
    However there is no great barrier to maintaining the formats and changing the Network to a private national network or to a VPN.
    Been there, done that.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  98. Joe Wong says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    Americans are ‘god-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘pirates’, they did not let Chinese buy anything in the USA with that over a trillion USD in bonds, as well as they try to stop anyone selling assets to Chinese in USD. In fact, by denying Chinese to buy assets in the USA with USD as well as where else, the American already told the world that they will not honor the debt(T-bills) they issued, meanwhile they will keep issuing not redeemable T-bills.

    The world knows the USA will not honor its debts long time ago, for the stability of world economy and their own national interests, just nobody wants to poke the fake USD trustworthiness bubble. The only time nations can collect USA’s debt is to conquer the USA and suck dry the USA like USSR.

    • Agree: nokangaroos, Aedib
  99. @Avery

    What prevents me from becoming an all-out Russophile is the probable reality of their central bank being under PRIVATE ownership. If any poster has current information on the status of that institution and it’s actual primary stock/bond-holders; I’m confident that may posters would appreciate that applied research.

  100. @Paul Greenwood

    Astute observations and credible research.

    We must always bear in mind that with the 76 year old continuous occupation of Germany by the U\$ military and the total lack of a genuine peace-treaty after all those decades, Germany is by no means a relatively free and actually independent political entity. The sad-eyed people of that shattered once-great civilization appear to be in a state of perpetual depression.

    Up until Hitler made that decision to cut-off the central bank\$ter financiers by establishing a state-run financial system; Germany had become the epicenter of European civilization, both economically and intellectually. Today it is a mess. Cui Bono?

    • Replies: @Miro23
  101. @Anon

    I don’t understand this Jews run Ukraine talk. What kind of Jew regime willingly work with neo-Nazis like the Azov battalion?

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @Badger Down
  102. @Joe Wong

    The first financial decision the US of A ever made as independent country was to not honor its debt to France. Keep that in mind.

  103. Miro23 says:
    @Emerging Majority

    The sad-eyed people of that shattered once-great civilization (Germany) appear to be in a state of perpetual depression.

    It can’t be long now – they’re all wearing the same uniform. Those pensioners in skinny jeans and John Lennon specs must mark the end of 1960’s counter-culture.

  104. @Rev. Spooner

    The gesture IS directed at the “West”.

    You don’t count.

  105. EugeneGur says:
    @Escher

    Considering their history with the Russian empire and later the Soviet Union, some degree of Russophobia is to be expected.

    Their history was nowhere near as bad as they make it out. The Baltics were heavily subsidized at the expense of Russia proper, and nobody pushed them around that much, actually at all. The same goes for Poland. As for that sort of argument, the Russians should then positively hate the Germans, considering their past activities in the land.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  106. @A123

    Are you suggesting Jews are at the core of Pedofailia?
    All I do is convert the scapegoat-ism and insert what is being avoided.

    How about, “The State of Israel should immediately be abolished. All Israel actions are inherently void acts of immorality.

    • Replies: @A123
  107. republic says:
    @nokangaroos

    Ryszard Kapuscinski

    Shah of Shahs

    Great book by a master

  108. @The_MasterWang

    The other way round it also becomes a boot …

    What kind of Banderist would work for the murderers of his people?*
    While it is true Stepan in his later years was a CIA goon (there was no other
    game in town) he cannot have forgotten the NKVD prison and the cathedral
    of Lemberg.
    *Put simply, none; it is easy to deck out any number of Jewish lowlifes
    in Nazi regalia.

  109. @RadicalCenter

    What does Russia need to deter China from?? You are not making sense. Seems you have no clue what is actually going on and believe some neo-con garbage. Clown it is cheaper for China to have Russia in Vladi than for China to have it back.. Not only that Russia and Japan have a territorial dispute which also draws in the US. Chinese arent as dumb as the neo-cons who come up with the silly ideas that what China wnd Russia settled 30 years ago is still on the table. They dont renege on each other like NATO… Hence the reason they are growing close. Your neo-con sources dont realize China is actually a defense export market for Russia – which is even more important now that India is starting to buy US weapons in earnest. Russia’s defense issues are NATO and Japan – not China… And not even Ukraine really.. Ukraine is simply being used by NATO.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  110. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Yes it is very peculiar that the most religious Jews are actually the ones who tend to be most against the State of Israel. Mainly they know that a secular Israel is an oxymoron… And yes they do realize the other sons of Abraham… But the Palestinian issue is a very complex one which I wont go into on this thread.
    But yeah most westeners would not be able to tell a Mizrahi Israeli apart from a Palestinian… And for decades the Ashkenazi Israelis looked down on the Mizrahi… Complex stuff.

  111. Goddard says:
    @beavertales

    The World Continent (Eurasia) is strengthening while the Island Continent (the Americas) is receding back to its more accustomed position historically, the periphery.

    Americans should not only accept, but welcome, this state of affairs.

    For 17 years I lived on either end of Eurasia: W. Europe 7 years, Asia 10 years. Every time I came back to the USA, I was struck by America’s enviable circumstances. Foremost among those enviable circumstances was our isolation between two vast oceans.

    Our forefathers, far from lamenting their inability to orchestrate affairs on the World Continent, rejoiced in their isolation on the Island Continent. Splendid isolation was the theme until only a hundred years ago, and persisted right up to Pearl Harbor.

    The post World-War II order is however fading away. A return to isolationism is in order. Americans should be less concerned about orchestrating world affairs and more concerned about preserving their way of life. We should be looking within, not without.

    China may say checkmate to America’s imperial ambitions, but China needn’t rob the United States of its independence.

    Americans should realize their enviable position on the Island Continent, cherish it, and defend it. We should implement a 100-year moratorium on immigration, deport forthwith freeloader immigrants and illegals, wash our hands of the Middle East, and get out of Korea and NATO.

    We should build a mighty Wall to defend our way of life from Pauper America and allow the oceans to buffer us from the maelstrom of the World Continent.

    We should build a might city on a hill that will last a thousand years and that the nations of the World Continent will envy but not replicate.

  112. @Escher

    Not a great comparison because Tibet was an empire that simply got defeated… Historically Tibetans were not a peacenick bunch who just sat around on the plateau seeking to be by themselves. They were warriors – contrary to the Hollywood version. And many Tibetans willing left Tibet to live in neighboring provinces… They willingly left their majority behind such that the majorityt of Tibetans dont live in Tibet.

    I dont know the history of Poland and the Baltics…. But I never heard of either having their own empire and attacking Russia to the east or other great European empires to their west… If so please enlighten me.

    • Replies: @TheJamesRocket
  113. @Cuffy

    You have an interesting point of view. Please explain why you think the US should give billions of dollars every year to “israel”.

    • Replies: @Cuffy
  114. @Showmethereal

    You’re too generous. This is typical of Western racist bullshit. It doesn’t impress the Russians or Chinese who KNOW that it is yet more filthy lies from evil, psychotic, racist, liars, but it is intended to impress vicious, racist, Western dullards.

    • Troll: anaccount
  115. Levtraro says:
    @PJ London

    Correct. What will happen naturally is that a niche will appear to conduct transfers from SWIFT banks to out-of-SWIFT banks and viceversa. For example, kicking Iran out of SWIFT made some EU countries create their own system (INSTEX) to make (humanitarian) transfers to Iran. Rusia and China already have their own systems that work internally.

  116. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    USUKisrael “bombs dams”. The bad guys won the second world war. And your name is evil.

    • Replies: @bombthe3gorgesdam
  117. @EugeneGur

    When the Lithuanian fascists returned to power, an early act was to charge a very elderly Jewish woman with murder, because, during WW2, as a Soviet partisan, she had killed some Nazis and Lithuanian fascists, those Jew-killers so vicious that they revolted even the Nazis. That is what is at work in Lithuania, but, thankfully, like the racist scum that they are, they have picked a fight with China, who will teach them a very unhappy lesson.

  118. @A123

    I’m afraid Judaism came from elsewhere, too. Remember your mythology-Abraham from Ur, wasn’t it? So feck off back to Iraq then. Christianity does appear to be indigenous, but such musings are a sign of a viciously low intellect. Islam has its roots in Judaism and Christianity, honours both as fellow monotheists, and has been in Palestine for over one thousand years. And, as I’ve stated often, the Talmudists REVILE Christianity.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  119. A123 says: • Website
    @bike-anarkist

    ROTFL

    Anti-Semitic Muslims at the UN the core of Paedophilia. One cannot “scapegoat” Bacha Bazi chasers for what they actually are.

    Why do Islamists always try to distract from their debauchery? The diversion never works. Let me Fix That For You:

    “The Islamic Republic of Iran should immediately be abolished. All of sociopath Khamenei’s actions are inherently void acts of immorality.”

    See how much more accurate that is?

    PEACE 😇

  120. @CelestiaQuesta

    a bunch of gender queers who are given orders to mount weapon systems

    An odd image.

  121. Cuffy says:
    @Badger Down

    Sorry , should have explained. Uncle Tom Obama did not give Iran any US money. It repaid them for monies they stole from Iran back in ’79. Probably the US mafia state still holds millions of dollars in Iranian assets.
    As for giving shithole third world countries money from the US taxpayers, you should see who these shit hole countries(as you/he put it ) are beholden to.
    You could investigate what the US gets from these shit hole countries.
    It is surely not benevolence.
    Find out about Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran, Syria etc how much they get from the mafia state or how much is stolen from them.
    BTW, why dont you look into the recent Exon deal with the Govt of Guyana where one of the largest oil finds in the world was recently discovered.
    Lets see who is stealing from whom

    • Replies: @Avery
  122. @Badger Down

    there are no good guys and bad guys in war; just my side and your side. you’d understand this if you weren’t retarded. my name is just a foreign policy position

    • Replies: @Emerging Majority
  123. @Joe Wong

    This thread makes me think of Weimar Germany and photos of portly Germans carrying cart loads of papiermark in order to buy a loaf of bread due to “hyperinflation” — they were poor but portly.

    What most people don’t understand is that Weimar Germany was under the complete control of Jews and probably all the photos were staged and propaganda. In other words, the economic crisis was engineered and fake history. Note the Jewish MSM is presently scaremongering us (hyping-up) China’s debt problems and impending collapse (e.g. Evergrande).

    By the way, for those still harping on “Chinese theft” of Western technology…. here’s something you should know: the hollowing out of American industry and offshoring it to China which began in the early 1990s was ostensibly to make China a client state of the U.S. dollar. The so-called “theft” (transfer) of Western technology was written into the contracts and loans by the Jewish bankers.

    In return, all trade between China and America would be denominated in U.S. dollars. In fact, all international trade is denominated in U.S. dollars. Hence USA calls the shots globally.

    Despite all the sanctions and talk of war with Russia and China, most of their trade with the world is still denominated in U.S. dollars.

    Needless to say, all Jewish banker wars are currency wars and so WW3 won’t begin until Russia or China really becomes independent and conduct international trade using their own currencies.

    • Agree: Sisifo
    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @antibeast
  124. Avery says:
    @Cuffy

    {…. Iran, Syria etc how much they get from the mafia state or how much is stolen from them.}

    Right you are.
    To wit:

    [Trump admits his intentions of keeping occupying troops in Syria.. Stealing Oil]

    “…..I took the oil…..”

    You gotta give it to Trump: his predecessors stole others’ oil and dressed in typical Anglo-American doublespeak, but Trump openly said what the victims of the thefts have known for a long time.

    Another theft:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/the-us-has-been-selling-oil-from-iran

    [The United States recently seized a ship and then sold off the Iranian oil it was carrying, according to reports over the weekend.
    U.S. authorities in February seized the Liberian-flagged tanker Achilleas off the coast of the United Arab Emirates as it was transporting Iranian oil, the Associated Press reported Monday.
    The U.S. government brought the cargo to Houston, Texas, where it sold the oil.]

    Pure gangsterism.

    • Thanks: Cuffy
  125. Mefobills says:
    @A123

    What is the penalty for an Ayatollah who openly violates his own Fatwah?

    Why is this scourge of the Iranian people still in leadership?

    The gatestone institute? Really. That is about Lolbertarian as it comes, and is funded by usury flows vectoring from the private banking sector.

    Remember all the claims about IRAQ and weapons of mass destruction. Then all the claims about Iran and how they were ready to build nuclear weapons – it has all been evidence free, just claims.

    What Iran HAS DONE, is build up an accurate missile defense ability, along with a home-grown industry that cannot be interdicted. They also fund Hezbollah, which is cheap, effective, and wise.

    None of your screed answered my salient point, in that it was the Western sanctions that devastated Iran’s economy. The sanctions are the acts of Sociopaths intended to starve and harm Iranian people.

    Fortunately, Iran is becoming a part of belt and road, and there isn’t a damn thing that Zionists (including Christian Zionists) can do about it.

    • Replies: @A123
  126. Avery says:
    @Walter

    {Jesus was a native Palestinian Jew.}

    Nonsense.

    Assuming one believes that Jesus was the son of God, then it is not possible for the son of God to be of any ethnicity. God created man and woman. God created all creatures. God created all ethnicities that populate the Earth. The son of God can not be a Jew, or an Armenian, or a Palestinian, or…..or anything else.

    The fact that some very smart and very educated Jewish writers claim he was, means bupkis (in the Yiddish vernacular).

    As to Virgin Mary: who knows what she was.
    Assuming God wanted His son to appear amongst people in the form of a human being, He chose a human female to carry the Child and give birth. There was no human DNA from the mother. No Jewish DNA, no Armenian DNA, no Palestinian DNA, no any human DNA. Even if one believes Virgin Mary was Jewish*, Jesus cannot possibly have any ‘human’ in Him.

    ____________________________
    * How do we know what ethnicity Virgin Mary was? Again, because very smart and highly educated Jewish writers claim she was?

  127. Mefobills says:
    @A123

    “The Islamic Republic of Iran should immediately be abolished. All of sociopath Khamenei’s actions are inherently void acts of immorality.”

    Isn’t it interesting that Zion has repeatedly beseeched Iran’s Jews to come home to Zion (Israel).

    They keep saying NO. They like it in Iran.

    https://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/features/we-re-honoured-to-be-the-jews-of-iran-1.62386

    Even if one reads the above post from the Jewish Chronicle (the oldest Jewish newspaper) it is easy to see that Iranian Jews can travel and leave anytime they want.

    Iran limits Jews from sensitive positions in their civilization.. they cannot be school teachers, work in government, and be a money counter (banker). The West could learn a lot from Iran.

    • Agree: nokangaroos, W
    • Replies: @Emerging Majority
  128. @Levtraro

    After what was done with Iran and Europe following US orders – nobody believes SWIFT is neutral. There were even Europeans (German Finance minister) as one – saying Europe needed its own system. The myth of SWIFT neutrality went up in a puff… Just like pretending the IMF and World Bank dont just do the bidding of Washington. The WTO doesnt – hence the drive to smash the WTO. Any international organization that doesnt toe Washington’s line they want to destroy. Lately it hasnt worked… Mainly because of China and Russia. Now DC has successfully turned the EU against Russia again….. And even though China is now the EU’s largest trading partner they are slowly turning them againt China. They have started by using tiny Lithuania as the guinea pig (aside from that the garbage about Uighurs and Hong Kong). No doubt thwy whispered in there ear “see look how close Russia and China are getting” and used Russophobia to get them to turn on China. Now it will make the EU look bad if they dont back tiny and defenseless Lithuania (eye roll) against big and bad China who is friends with big and bad Russia. The US intel apparatus has lots of failires in recemt decades… But once in a while they come up with something that works.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  129. @A123

    Such a tired old t’what: Always kvetching about Iran. Was it not Persia that pulled Esther and her kin out of the noose? No gratitude. Ever. No wonder awakening individuals of Jewish heritage keep departing from the fold. And the chutzpah, the chutzpah, when the only peace you favor is a piece of every pie in the world—the biggest piece–excepting maybe a few overbaked crumbs.

    For shame. At least you do provide some comic relief on occasion.

    • LOL: A123
  130. Mefobills says:
    @Maowasayali

    The so-called “theft” (transfer) of Western technology was written into the contracts and loans by the Jewish bankers.

    The ideology is Jewish… it is mammonism and usury.

    American patrimony was sold off cheap to then take some of that sweet Chinese labor arbitrage.

    This then short circuited a couple of generations of Americans from the invention and creative gains of their fathers. America became hollowed out.

    The Greenmailing techniques done by wall street did have a large Jewish component, people such as Carl Icahn.

    This greed-is-good mentality of finance capitalism has spread beyond just Jewish bankers, where a whole country bought into the B.S.

    Part of the reason is that Americans (I’m American) have been brainwashed since birth about the nature of reality. Religion teaches that it is glorious to get rich, and those who are poor are that way … because you know, god doesn’t love them as much.

    Jesus beat the money changers with a whip.

    JudeoChristianity in America is very Jewish and has little in common with the original Church.

    https://michael-hudson.com/2021/10/the-tight-fist-of-special-interests/

    Well, that metaphor with early Christianity is very appropriate because it is how Christianity grew until — how did the Romans detooth it? They made Christianity the state religion. And once they made the state religion, they backed St. Augustine against the reformers, and Augustine really founded the Inquisition. And Augustine began having them fight against all of the social reformer games and said, we’re not going to change the world. It’s okay for people to be rich. It’s okay for them to be usurers long as they give the money to the poor, meaning us, the Church, to do everything.

  131. @Mefobills

    In terms of what Iranian Jews are permitted or not permitted to do or be, occupationally, their policy was almost identical to that of the Byzantinian Empire.

    Curious, isn’t it, that Byzantium was invaded, sacked and robbed extensively by Roman Christian crusaders. I wonder what agency it might have been–besides obvious greed and bloodthirstiness–that impulsed that particular target, the city which was at that time the largest by far in the Mediterranean world and well and away the wealthiest.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  132. Ever since the sixties, American CEO’s in the boardrooms of our largest corporations understood that low and medium tech with human expertise essential for exporting finished products, would inexorably be transferred to both second and third world nations. The CEO’s knew that all the formal education, technology, financial wherewithal and slave labor required to produce them at un-competitve, low cost vis-à-vis, U.S. and Western Occident finished product prices would, in the end, decimate the manufacturing sector middle class(es) They were too unionized, highly trained and provided a good portion of total GNP. This begs the question, how to reestablish our global role and preserve wealth while surrendering lower tech know how to everyone else? The only ladder left to climb was to create an emphasis on and command economy for military hardware (including outer space adventures). It was in this new portfolio of ever increasing levels of high tech products that would preserve USA and it’s western familiars “techno-edge” above every other nation, while building on groundbreaking (new mini-wars) that preserve, our wealth and power. The same position we held by default immediately following WWII, that is to say, only nation other than Switzerland left unscathed by warfare.

    ASIDE: It must be obvious to all Unz readers by now that JFK, RFK and MLK were totally opposed to this new fork in the road and they collectively wanted to promote and emphasize social democracy, domestically and abroad. A pied piper strategy of that City-on-a Hill vision, namely Washington DC/ NYC. Nations would seek us out and adore the leadership and diplomatic savvy. By soft power alone we would (eventually) defeat any other system be it philosophical or financial…

    Now to my point, during some un publicized, backroom negotiation effort in the recent past, the EU, CCP, OPEC et cetra explained to every president since Reagan, that the USA will pave a way for its so called “allies” to militarily target commodity rich but very poor countries. To, in effect, “soften them up” for future exploitation, by our allies, and at the same time (USA) assume all the bad press for doing so. In exchange, China, the house of Saud and Japan will continue to purchase worthless T bonds, stocks and cash payments issued from THE muscle man, the US.

    • Replies: @CosmicMythos
  133. @A123

    DeSantis is just another career politician that happens to be the flavor of the month. Until conservatives can actually grow a brain and an actual set of testicles, they will continue to lose ground by staying on the GOP plantation. The party functionaries are all neocons and can rewrite the voting rules to support who those who really run the whole show. Or the press can do a hit job on whomever the Establishment doesn’t want. Look at what they did with Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders. Why anyone thinks voting for either party is going to make things better at this point in time is beyond me. DeSantis will just be another figurehead for the masses to focus on. The President does what he is told and follows the script.

    • Agree: Biff, dogbumbreath
    • Replies: @A123
  134. @The_MasterWang

    Some Jews didn’t like the government of Ukraine, so they changed it. The President ran for his life and a new, Jewish president was installed. The giant sucking sound continued, and continues:
    https://www.johndenugent.com/disastrous-meeting-by-us-jewish-ogress-nuland-with-russians/

  135. @Emerging Majority

    not my call. if I was in charge, you’d have been nuked decades ago. go into doggy submission or there will never be chinese-american friendship

  136. @Emerging Majority

    Don’t say that! He’ll bomb the dam and thousands of innocent Chinese people will die.

    • Replies: @bombthe3gorgesdam
    , @d dan
  137. A123 says: • Website
    @Mefobills

    ROTFLMAO

    Wow… More Muzzie distraction from Muzzie lying about Muzzie oath breaking… How unsurprising.

    *FACT* — The IAEA determined that sociopath Khamenei violated JCPOA.

    -1- Look up you own source.
    -2- Take responsibility for your actions.
    -3- And, most importantly — *STOP LYING*

    Of course, all 3 of these things are impossible for Shia Jihadists and their lobotomite sycophants.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  138. @Badger Down

    more like 100 million, which would probably be enough to cause the chinese to surrender to america unconditionally. I think the best way to do it would be to employ a CIA-trained team of oppressed and vengeful white moslem uigur saboteurs to either plug a stuxnet-type virus into the dam’s vulnerable locking mechanism hardware or, failing that, strap themselves with sufficient high explosives (a dirty bomb should do the trick) to blow a hole in the dam. they will do it for allah, their god. america can sweeten the deal by offering these brave souls national sovereignty after mission accomplished.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  139. Sisifo says:

    Lavrov and Yi bumpimg the elbows lile two obedient little dogs… oh, dear!

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  140. d dan says:
    @Badger Down

    “He’ll bomb the dam and thousands of innocent Chinese people will die.”

    Hahaha, I don’t read from that clown, but your comment pit my curiosity.

    That clown hates Chinese so much, and then asks why Chinese hate him. He is so retard that he couldn’t see it, and then he calls you retard.

    Double irony clown: good source for a laugh when bored. Hahaha.

  141. Seraphim says:
    @bombthe3gorgesdam

    If there would be any Uighur left.

  142. Sisifo says:
    @bombthe3gorgesdam

    My experience travelling through China was that the average Chinese has no idea that Americans hate China, nor that Australians share the same sentiment.

    As an Australian, I was treated incredibly well everywhere I went, with people accosting me just to talk, and in more than a few cases with strangers asking me.to have a picture with them or their kids.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Cuffy
    , @The_MasterWang
  143. A123 says: • Website
    @Robert Bruce

    conservatives … lose ground by staying on the GOP plantation

    MAGA is not conservative. MAGA is Christian Populist and pro-worker/citizen. MegaCorporation conservatives, violent NeoConDemocrats, and SJW Leftoids now share the DNC.

    The situation is unique (or has not been present for decades). A MAGA House, MAGA Senate, and MAGA President working together can steamroller the establishment, including the Lügenpresse.

    If the Corporate SJW’s attempt to steal another election, the Constitution will end. The good future is MAGA Reindustrialization. The bad future is Civil War. Either way, U.S. Elites are about to take a beating. I think the good future is possible, because Elites will feed each other to the sharks to survive. There will be less profit under Reindustrialization, but the fastest moving Elites can still win. They simply have to ruthlessly obliterate their peers to seize wins from the smaller pool of opportunities.

    PEACE 😇

  144. @whodat

    Good points…. Though Iran has Russian radar that apparently tracks the F-35’s. I have no intimate knowledge – but I doubt Russia is bluffing…

    https://tass.com/world/1193281

  145. @AndrewR

    The sole purpose of putting the Shah back into power was to make sure the British and Americans had access to the Iranian oil… If that is not a puppet – then what is???

  146. Magnus says:

    Comments seem more braindead than normal for some reason

  147. @A123

    You stated: “Infidels (Christians & Jews) are natural allies against the horror of Islamic invasion & settlement.”

    I pointed out factual history that you are a liar and that for much of history – Muslims protected Jews from Christians and Jews sought refuge in Muslim countries from European Christians. In the Crusades Muslims and Jews stood side by side to resist European Christians (in contrast to Asian and African Christians). Those are facts. Only in the last century has that changed.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @A123
  148. Mefobills says:
    @Emerging Majority

    Justinian code. Either Jews are limited, or expelled.

  149. Biff says:
    @Sisifo

    Chinese has no idea that Americans hate China, nor that Australians share the same sentiment.

    It’s not willful, they are trained and goaded to hate their masters’ adversary’s.

  150. Cuffy says:
    @Sisifo

    No surprise here. Everywhere you Europeans or of European descent have gone, you murdered , hated, bludgeoned, robbed and imported and exported local black, brown, yellow and red populations in the name of submission er civilization. Your calling card is slavery, napalm, bullets and bombs. People who greeted you in their world was repaid with blood and barbarism and christianity. Gosh,this has been going on for centuries, so it must be in your DNA makeup.
    The Aussies recently were taking swigs of their favorite beer from the prosthetic leg of a murdered Afghan. God , this is depravity …..imagine what is not reported

    • Agree: Ben Sampson
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  151. antibeast says:
    @Maowasayali

    By the way, for those still harping on “Chinese theft” of Western technology…. here’s something you should know: the hollowing out of American industry and offshoring it to China which began in the early 1990s was ostensibly to make China a client state of the U.S. dollar. The so-called “theft” (transfer) of Western technology was written into the contracts and loans by the Jewish bankers.

    This is a common myth but is false as China joined the WTO only in 2001. Before then, the USA had imposed sanctions against China in 1989 after Tiananmen.

    What happened thereafter was that Deng invited Asian investors who then opened factories in China in the 1990s. That’s how China joined the global economy using the British-ruled HK as its gateway to the world. And that’s how Shenzhen boomed as it started out as Deng’s experiment in market capitalism back in the 1980s.

    The US outsourcing trend started long before China with Maquiladoras in Mexico in the 1960s and EPZs in Southeast Asia in the 1970s. To this day, most of the big-ticket items like autos and appliances exported to the USA come from foreign-owned factories in Mexico.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Maowasayali
  152. @A123

    What do you mean, “anti-Semitic Muslims”, you crackpot? The Palestinian Muslims are Semites. The Jews, apart from a few, a tiny proportion in ancient Palestine, never were. Read Genesis, the genealogy of Abraham. Every generation of the descendants of Shem contains one who is an ancestor of Abram and many who are not. Look at what happened post-Alexander, when tribal religions disappeared from the large empires that were suddenly there, everyone converted to Judaism.

    So, at the beginning, only a tiny proportion of Semites were Jews, and by the time of Christ only a tiny proportion of Jews were Semites.

    Read Jonathan Cook’s “Stolen Children” article. The Jewish invaders of Palestine were determined to eliminate any Jews who were Semites.

    Much more.

  153. Levtraro says:
    @Showmethereal

    Yes, SWIFT’s brand was affected by kicking Iran out but the impact was minimal. Kicking Russia out is qualitatively different. It may happen of course, actually quite easily like I said. Minor point: the EU did not follow US orders in that instance. Instead, they created their own system of inter-bank messaging and transfers with Iranian banks. At that time EU bigshots did not like POTUS because POTUS was mean to EU bigshots, lol! That’s how it works at the highest levels in the West.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  154. Levtraro says:
    @showmethereal

    Yes, in fact in addition to similarities in physical appearance and biological constitution jews and muslims have been natural allies against Whites for much of historical times. Islamic sources are proud to proclaim that Jews received the invading moros with open arms in southern Europe in the 8th century.

    • Thanks: showmethereal
  155. @A123

    The SOLUTION is – Palestine must be returned to its only two native faiths

    I am afraid the acolytes of Ba´al and Dagon were not terribly indigenous either –
    but at least they were Semites and at the height of urban civilization
    (maybe not quite at the height of the ones they burned down 😛 ).
    But any excuse to get the joo out of Europe …

    Peace? No peace.

  156. A123 says: • Website
    @showmethereal

    ROTFLMAO

    You are so detached from reality it is very funny. Why do you think deliberately taking an obviously modern reference and twisting into painfully inappropriate historical implications could possibly work?

    Let me make the incredibly obvious “more incredibly obiviouser” for you

    *IN MODERN TIMES* Infidels (Christians & Jews) are natural allies against the horror of Islamic invasion & settlement.

    Are you happier now that I have explicitly pointed out your deception?

    I know it is a struggle given your limitations, but try to keep up.
    ____

    Let me restate the meaningful & relevant facts that you keep dodging:

    FACT — Islam is not indigenous to Palestine
    FACT — Muhammad the Settler Prophet brought occupiers ~1,400 years ago
    FACT — His non-native religion created invasive Islamic settlements & colonies

        Muslim Colonies are the problem.
        Muslim Decolonization is the answer.

    To head off ethnic diversions and digressions, I’ll even make a deal. Those who openly denounce Muhammad, publicly burn the Quran, and become genuinely Jewish can stay. For obvious reasons, the penalties for fake conversions that do not represent a genuine change of belief will will be punished harshly.
    ___

    All you have done so far with your irrelevance and distraction is show that your position is weak and unsupportable. Will you show something real? Or, evade again?

    Personally I think you will SURRENDER to my superior logic by evading again. Please feel free to prove me right!

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    — We are not laughing with you. We are Laughing At You.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  157. Mefobills says:
    @antibeast

    The US outsourcing trend started long before China with Maquiladoras in Mexico in the 1960s and EPZs in Southeast Asia in the 1970s. To this day, most of the big-ticket items like autos and appliances exported to the USA come from foreign-owned factories in Mexico.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenith_Electronics

    The NUE case of Zenith vs Sony showed how America works. It is special interests and string pullers from behind the scenes that influence the polity. The military industrial complex had decided to make Japan an outpost for repairing naval vessels. The Japanese economy was allowed to steal American innovation and then monetize it. This also was long before the wall street-china gambit.

    Finance Capitalism has a blind spot, in that it only looks at prices. Zenith was not allowed to benefit from its innovations, including flat panel TV’s. The company is gone now.

    So yes, Americans need to take a good look in the mirror. China is running a version of the American System of Economy. This is industrial capitalism invented by the colonials, and taken up by the founders. It was the reason for the revolutionary war.

    America was never meant to be a populist democracy…. this was considered the worst form of government, easily maneuvered by monied and oligarchical special interests.

    Zenith and NUE:

    In December, 1970, National Union Electric (“NUE”) sued most of the Japanese television manufacturers for violation of the Anti-Dumping Act and a conspiracy which violated American antitrust laws.[8] During the pendency of that suit, Zenith Radio Corporation encountered increasing financial difficulty as their market share progressively went to Japanese companies. Concerned about losing market share to Japanese companies, Zenith filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia in 1974 against the major Japanese television and electronic manufacturers charging violation of the United States Antitrust Laws and the Anti-Dumping Act of 1916.[9] Zenith joined two United States companies Sears, Roebuck and Co. and Motorola, Inc. as co-plaintiffs.[10] The NUE suit was transferred to the Eastern District of Pennsylvania and the two suits were consolidated for pretrial proceedings and trial.[8] The suit, styled In re Japanese Electric Products Antitrust Litigation, sought \$900 million in damages.[11]

    By the end of 1983, Zenith had spent millions of dollars in connection with the litigation.[12] In 1981, the trial court entered summary judgment on the antitrust and antidumping claims and dismissed the lawsuits.[1

    (If you actually read the lawsuit minutes, its clear that Zenith was wronged, and the U.S. did allow transfer of technology to then benefit Japan, and not the American inventors and their progeny.)

    • Thanks: Maowasayali, antibeast
  158. Mefobills says:
    @A123

    Wow… More Muzzie distraction from Muzzie lying about Muzzie oath breaking… How unsurprising.

    *FACT* — The IAEA determined that sociopath Khamenei violated JCPOA.

    I’m not a Muzzie, I’m a national socialist, an American, and an admirer of Original Christianity. My comment history proves this to be the case.

    The IAEA is also not a credible source, as is gatestone institute. IAEA was influenced.

    https://www.biblio.com/target-iran-by-ritter-scott/work/98597

    Scott Ritter dropped the dime on how the narrative was twisted to make enemies. It is even happening today, as Russia and China are being demonized.

    Weak minded people, or those with an agenda fall for the BS.

    Any country that is not part of the Atlantacist system, which is very Jewish by the way, is demonized.

    This very article by Escobar can be recast as Russia and China also trying to escape from Atlantacist method.

    Also, anybody who signs off with “Best Regards, or Peace” on an online forum is blowing hot air and is virtue signaling.

    The only thing that matters here is ideas, and not your virtue.

    In terms of Geo-politics, the thing that has ZION’s panties all twisted, is that Iran properly limits its Jews, it does not engage in Finance Capitalism, it does not bow to globo-homo, and has built an indigenous military industry that can make missiles.

    The missiles in turn are highly accurate as has been demonstrated many times. The attack on Saudi Infrastructure was aimed at the heart of globo -homo, and is one of those events that fell into the memory hole.

    Iran can also bottle up the tanker fleets coming down the Strait of Hormuz, this also has globo homo shaking in their boots.

    The South Pars gas dome field is big enough to fuel Europe if only the gas could find transit. Qatar made a play in the Syrian War to take over the fields, and control the pipelines. The Atlantacist globo homos started the war in Syria using a paid for mercenary army of Wahabbi Takfiris.

    You are so ate up with false narrative, you cannot even distinguish the players on the chessboard. The Muslims in Iran are not in bed with globo-homo and (((finance capital))) hidden string pullers.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  159. @Sick of Orcs

    It’s nauseating how far up Nuttyyahoo’s rear channel Trump went with his tongue. The man is owned by the zionists. Give it up.

  160. @Levtraro

    Yes I agree… I’m noting though that even though the EU did take that step – in effect all of their companies got scared of the US and the EU was too impotent to back them. So basically they forfeited any business dealings in Iran. But – yes to the rest of what you said. But NATO is crazy so there is no telling what it would do.

    • Agree: Levtraro
  161. @A123

    “In modern times” means the opposite of being “natural allies”. It is all political folly and has nothing to do with real spiritually. Why are the UAE and Israel’s governments now best friends??? Now since the Abraham Accords there is all the talk of Jewish history on the Arabian peninsula and Morocco etc. All of it is true – but it is all political folly now to go against Iran. You might have missed it that Sunni Arabs and Berbers are Muslims… Stop pretending to be biblically spiritual with your agenda… Others have already pointed out you are a troll – let us leave it there.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  162. Uncle Sam says:

    Russia and China’s attempt to organize a new international financial structure is eerily reminiscent of what happened during the 1930’s. The three Axis countries Germany, Italy and Japan had sovereign monetary systems not linked, or very loosely linked to the same financial structure we have today.

    Moreover, they instituted a barter trade policy based on a goods standard. If barter became widespread, countries would not have to take out loans from international banks in London and New York. The international bankers would go out of business. In other words, no more Wall Street and the City of London. So they had their puppets Roosevelt and Churchill start a war to save that system. And of course they were successful.

    Today the situation is different. They cannot start a with Russia or China because these countries are nuclear powers and the financiers would face their own deaths in a nuclear war. If the dollar ceases to be the world’s reserve currency, which is what would happen if Russia and China are successful, it can no longer be weaponized. America and the Anglo-Saxon world in general would lose a great deal of their power.

    Beyond that, American consumers would have to pay more for imports from countries that ditched the dollar and demanded payment in some other currency. In other words, the dollar would have to be used to buy the currency of the exporting country. The cost of such imports would very likely go up which would cause consumer dissatisfaction and ultimately political problems.

    The future does not look good for Anglo-Saxon financial domination.

  163. @Sisifo

    Yeah, that IS pathetic. Ignorant, irrational, and unmanly.

  164. @Cuffy

    It’s a good thing the rest of the world is so peaceful and kind to each other, LOL.

    Having said that, it is disgusting and contemptible what our rulers have used the US and Western militaries to do. I feel zero loyalty to this government and don’t trust, like, or respect about half of my supposed “fellow Americans” (and I don’t mean precisely by party affiliation, by no means).

  165. @antibeast

    I am talking specifically about technology transfer from the West to China vis a vis “Joint Venture Agreements and Loans” and you are talking generally about the modernization of China vis a vis the World Trade Organization (WTO) and Deng’s reforms and invitation to “Asian” investors based in (((British))) Hong Kong to build up Shenzhen in the 1990s.

    The technology transfer predates China joining the WTO in 2001–on that point I do not disagree– but if you think Jews had no vital and major part in promoting Deng and creating China to what it is today then you are either dishonest or delusional.

    Let me connect the Jewish dots and numbers for you…

    Do you know how old Deng was, when he made his famous “Southern Tour” (Shenzhen, Zhuhai, Guangzhou) which is “widely regarded as a critical point in the modern history of China, as it saved the Chinese economic reform as well as the capital market, and preserved the stability of the society, ” according to Wikipedia?

    Well, he was 88-years old– a very lucky number to both Chinese and Jews. Deng would die five years later in 1997.

    The burning question inquiring goys want to know is why did Deng wait so long? He came to power after Mao’s death in 1976, so why did he wait 16-years, until he was a very ripe 88-years old to modernize China?

    Here’s a clue: Zionists do everything by the numbers and dates, and on January 24, 1992–the same month that Deng embarked on his “Southern Tour”– China officially restored full diplomatic relations with Israel. Just a coincidence? Methinks not.

    Here’s more background info., from the Jewish Virtual Library no less, admitting “secret” military pacts and or technology transfers between Israel and China:

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    History

    In the 1930s, David Ben-Gurion said that China would be one of the great world powers of the future. Though he was prescient, Ben-Gurion could not win over the Chinese during its early years. In 1947, China abstained on the vote for partition and later expressed support for the Palestinians.

    Until the 1980s, China refused to grant visas to Israelis unless they held dual citizenship and carried a passport of a country other than Israel. Following the Sino-Soviet split, and China’s 1979 establishment of diplomatic relations with the United States, China and Israel began to secretly build military ties. Both countries supplied weapons to the Afghan mujahideen fighting the Soviets.

    China eased travel restrictions, while Israel reopened its consulate in Hong Kong (then under British administration), which would serve as the main point for diplomatic and economic contact.

    In 1987, Prime Minister, Shimon Peres, appointed Amos Yudan to set up the first official Government owned company to establish and foster commercial activities between companies in China and Israel. The company was active until 1992.

    Prior to the establishment of full diplomatic relations, [January 24, 1992] Israel and China established representative offices in Beijing and Tel Aviv, which functioned as de facto embassies. The Israeli office was formally known as the Liaison Office of the Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities. This was opened in June 1990. China was similarly represented by a branch of the China International Travel Service, which also opened in 1990.

    • Replies: @antibeast
    , @CosmicMythos
  166. @Uncle Sam

    The US shot itself in the head when it started using the dollar to impose murderous sanctions on States, and societies, it did not like, or find sufficiently obedient. It could bomb Libya back to the Stone Age and steal its gold, or bomb Iraq to Kingdom Come, killing a million, with another million killed by sanctions there, including 500,000 children under five (approved by Madeleine Albright), but it can’t bully or bomb nuclear powers into submission. It’s Comeuppance Time’!

  167. @showmethereal

    The thing with the Zionazis and Talmudists is that they believe that Jewish history is all that counts. Being far superior to the goyim (with souls as different from the goyim as goyim souls are from those of animals, as Rabbi Kook the Elder, Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi in Palestine just before Israel was created, declared)the history of the Jews is far more important than that of all others. And not just in the region, but in all the world, throughout history.
    The region has been occupied by humans for 70.000 years, give or take ten thousand. Before that other Homo species and other hominids have dwelt there for hundreds of thousands, even millions, more. But only the Jews count. Only Jewish archeological remains count, which explains Judaic archeology that seeks to ‘prove’ Judaic mythological history, while expunging the remains of non-Jews, a work recently outsourced to Daesh, the Israelis’ catspaw.
    The Jews invented themselves 3500 years ago, and ruled only small parts, briefly, of the region, but only their sovereignty counts. The Palestinians are descended from all these peoples, including Jews, but their long residency does not count. A snarling, murderous, Jewish settler from Brooklyn, descended from Turkic converts to Judaism has all the rights to invade Palestinian land, kill Palestinians if in need of recreation or catharsis, destroy their homes, steal their land and olive trees, poison their animals etc, and we mere goyim must praise this barbarity, NEVER dare criticise it in any way, or face the consequences, which now include fourteen years in gaol in the UK colony for daring to support Hamas, the last elected Government of the Palestinians.

  168. @Mefobills

    We know that 123 is, supposedly, a Sabbat Goy stooge, but her use of the inane ‘Muzzie’ shows that she is a puerile stooge-the type the Zionazis prefer. Totally obedient, always.

  169. @Showmethereal

    I dont know the history of Poland and the Baltics…. But I never heard of either having their own empire and attacking Russia to the east or other great European empires to their west… If so please enlighten me.

    Depends on how far back in history you look. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth fought many wars with the Russian Empire. They even launched their own invasion during the Polish–Muscovite war, back in 1605–1618. In more recent history, the 2nd Polish Republic conquered the Ukrainian Republic in 1918-1919, and went to war against the Soviet Union in 1919-1921. They expanded their territory significantly during these conflicts.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  170. @Sisifo

    Thankfully this is changing. I for one am working hard on it.

    • Replies: @Matt long
    , @Matt long
  171. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Almost all their contemporaries from the Late Bronze Age Near East are gone, subsumed by other ‘peoples’. Is that a bad thing, in the end?

    I assume you mean is it bad thing to be subsumed by “other peoples”?

    I would say, all things considered . . . YES. It’s never a good thing to lose your identity, the very core and soul of your existence. Why lose it, for ANY reason?

    It’s also COMPLETELY unnecessary to lose an identity to remain, and if need be regain, a society’s dynamism and drive to advance.

    There are at least 4 cultures extant today that have never come close to losing their sense of being, their sense of self.

    I give you:

    1)China (from the Early Bronze Age, contemporary of Early Dynastic Egypt, and the Fertile Crescent). Not yet united, but with a very strong concept of their distinct place in the world.

    2) India (arguably from the Early Bronze Age – Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro – or at the latest the Middle Bronze Age ie the Aryan Invasion of 1500 BC)

    3) The Jews (circa 1200 BC – the escape of the slaves from Egypt and subsequent acquisition of identitiy in the Levant)

    1) Iran (circa 1200 BC, when some Indo-Aryan tribes began to be self-consciously Persian).

    There are yet more examples out there. Many here can point to a great many more.

    Now, most cultures and peoples disappear from history, but if these 4 MAJOR examples are anything to go by, loss of identity can be entirely avoided.

    On the matter of cultural drive:

    Can anyone really argue that the Chinese are not extremely forward looking and dynamic, after a historically brief hiatus of several hundred years?

    That the Jews are not still large players in the world?

    Can it be said, definitively, that India and Iran will not one day get back their essential “mojo”?

    Identity is a treasure beyond price or reckoning. To lose it is sorrowful, and infuriating.

    Loss of identity is not a CONSEQUENCE of the loss of dynamism and rise of despairing anomie. Rather the reverse. The loss of dynamism and rise of despair are the RESULT of the loss of identity.

    Beware those who would take your identity away, or try to convince you to be what, in your inner self, you are not. Such a person is your absolute greatest enemy.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  172. antibeast says:
    @Maowasayali

    Shenzhen started in the 1980s when Deng made his Southern tour. But it was in the 1990s that Deng visited Singapore and decided to adopt its technocratic-run, State-driven industrial capitalist model which resulted in the normalization of Singapore-China diplomatic relations and the establishment of the Singapore-Suzhou Industrial Park.

    That’s when China opened up its market to Asian investors, half of whom are ‘Overseas Chinese’ from HK, Taiwan and Southeast Asia, and started importing industrial technologies mostly from Japan but also some from Germany. During this time, Japanese and German auto manufacturers began setting up JV-owned factories to produce cars to sell in China.

    The US sanctions barred the Americans (except for a few) from doing business in China. But that didn’t stop Asians and Europeans (mostly German) from investing in China.

  173. @elmerfudzie

    An interesting recap of the situation.

    Granted, your assessment of the situation as it in fact stands in reality has broad-stroke validity, but I am not sure that it was the plan all along.

    It’s like saying that since a coastal city has been inundated by the ocean, due to the levees failing, that is was meant to be that way so real estate companies could buy all the property cheaply.

    Does this mean that, somehow, secretly and sneakily, real estate companies had infiltrated the construction firm that built the levees?

    Besides, 3 out of 5 American households can’t afford a sudden \$400 dollar expense. 60% of Americans are part of households that live paycheck to paycheck. This is the country with the master plan?

    To cite one example, the Chinese economy is now, in total, 35 to 40% larger than ours. In industrial capacity, it’s 80% larger (meaning, among other things, that if it came down to a real war, their war making capacity is already, TODAY, 80% greater than that of the U.S. – and that gap is growing). In number of technological patents granted, China has outstripped us. Etc, etc.

    So, how did that “plan” to maintain U.S. technological hegemony work out? Are you quite sure that what happened was actually “part of the plan”?

    • Replies: @elmerfudzie
  174. @Maowasayali

    Yeeaaah . . . but no.

    See, Deng Xiaoping was born on August 22, 1904. He was turning 88 in August of 1992.

    But the Southern Tour happened between Jan. 8 and Feb. 21, 1992. At the time, Deng Xiaoping was, in FACT, 87 years old, not 88.

    No, to the Chinese OR to the Jews (OR to the German National Socialists) 87 is NOT “close enough” to 88. If the Jews had a hand in it, it would have to have taken place on, or after, August 22, 1992. See, that’s their deeply-held superstition.

    Most likely, the Southern Tour took place according to Chinese cosmological and geomantic factors, not any sort of outside influence.

    • Replies: @Maowasayali
  175. Matt long says: • Website
    @The_MasterWang

    This sounds alot like what a smart guy mike myself would just write. Unlike normal news there’s no quotes no real references in how we know they spoke that many times, it’s obvious they want us to know then.
    This pipeline is this Nord Stream 2 the one that atwd Cruise and the Senate under the Trump Administration was able to keep at bay but please explain what did Biden do or not do to help the bi partisan bills hauling production of the Nord stream 2. I feel like he might be responsible for the eventual reconstruction of the Solviet union due to Putin Blackmails by not stopping that pipeline. I know it’s so very clear that a president Xi does not believe Biden would ever do anything which is why they held their auto computer chips. President Trump had a direct line to Russia.

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    He also met face to face with all the Dictators. Maybe to show them he’s not going to just sit back and watch them do whatever they want and we all know Trump identified China as an enemy of the state and was criticized but I’m sure Biden is not having emergency meeting with all Senators and seeing what we can do with the rest of the World. That he threw away when he decided to pull out of Afghanistan. Prior to that he had more friends so to speak in other countries Trump. However it was clearly due to the US always paying more then everyone else. But we needed a compromise not to leave. Mistake obviously. Biden js has mad so e speeches but they hold no water really. The question is why was Nord Stream 2 not stopped or did it stop and Biden let it finish? Second question would be with China. They are anti America anti Capitalist and will have all the South China sea islands as attack bases naval bases recon stations for whatever and they are now so very dangerous we were the best in Terms of Naval presence in the World and acted with impunity with our fleets this is what be will do with bigger newer fleets. What are the sources you used to show the Chinese Russian intent. We know it’s never good I do t know who is worse Putin will do bad things and Xi does things for his people and infrastructure. He will not hesitate in a second to act the way American Presidents used to act when we had so much more power. Will be just stop giving us Palladium Cobalt est to build our cars as a start and then just surround us with his global presence. One thing about Xi is he uses enemies of America in so many ways I heard he supplies the new age Cartel with fentanyl using a Chinese doctor close to the border on the American side. Pounding our youth with drugs and illegals and I’m afraid Putin is going to black mail countries we vow to help

  176. Matt long says: • Website
    @The_MasterWang

    I feel like Americans have no idea about the dangers that normally the President Luike JFK would be warning us about. Noone knows what is going through the 78 year old mind of Joe Biden and Harris is no war hero she’s knows nothing her job is the border which I think she just opened basically and kids are in cages.

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    More importantly I need to find sites that have this type of news with actual intelligence prepared and then published. We need to know which countries to place our money in because 08 is gonna happen again but way faster and he gave away more money then ever so the next storm u have entire states not working anymore. So what is communism? Chinese citizens are doing better y der his care. He’s fining billionaires and using that cash for the country. Ex. Somehow we get Amazon to give away 100 billion dollars and use it to fix the countries failed ng infrusture. We as the people ask owners of huge companies that are not divided into shares but to take some money and use it towards the war to come. Again what is the difference? Alot but they choose to mess with the 1 st second and 8th amendments and it was clear. And Jeff Bezos needs to be fined for out sourcing all his phone staff to other countries when our unemployment is an all time high. All he needs to do is give the people some way of making a commission for doing their jobs in America and not lay the full minimum wage but u get a way to earn way more with sales. Bill gates has done his part but how about a new law stating multi billionaires if u ever want to become one u agree when u due your family gets half your money and the people the rest. Appointed accountants not left or right but chosen to decide where the money needs to go and that doesn’t mean give it to people on the border to have Snap. We need to act more like China. And we need to be way more innovative we can’t have elections not tampered we can’t have our own computer chips we can’t get each healthy young man and female to serve 2 years in the military like Korea. millennials grew up not even knowing wordly news and they have access in their hands. Most people are very stupid and this is New York so u can imagine what Al or LA people think and what they are good at is joining the military. And we need that but we also need real military leaders. The last few even the one now screwed up already and they asked what does winning mean the White House or Dick Chaney gave no real explanation because he found his oil buyers made money we paid less on gas back then even Trump we paid less then now. We can’t be a country divided and open. First thing is close it. We have so many illegal people we make them legal that’s it no more but they are forced to serve in an armed forces. Then after that they must pay to go to college just like me a son of an immigrant or they can work. Old people sweep the streets of China that’s how they earn their keep. We let our old people died or we spend trillions on them as their lives end this is the end of a baby boomer generation latin families always have many kids. And china had fixed their lopsided sex and pop. And right now the avg family not immagrants barely have children if they do it’s 2 Max and many decide to not. Unfortunately this country is old right now. And we have the oldest Joe. I tried to get food stamps because vi was a student then I was finishing an externship which I found they didn’t. I was working for free. I couldn’t have another job I couldn’t afford food. If I worked at night I would not sleep. The reason I was denied was because I wasn’t a full time student. I said that’s because I’m in the externship now and there’s no more classes. Denied. Huge families of illegals come behind me and all quality for food rental assistance and free lunch cards for all kids about to go to school. Me no money. I have a SA card and I’ve paid taxes. These people show up get more then I ever can imagine no cut off they had 6. Total people and two elderly but I can’t confirm if they were American. But they didn’t speak English noone does here. I never though leaning Spanish was so important. But I decided I should learn Mandarin if I need to. Maybe I can actually get on a winning side. Why isn’t this news bigger then it should be? Why hasn’t a state of the Union give us motivation to do more. Why is inflation ok all the Sudden why do some white people vthinknasians are getting too much media when a few just got raped and there faces caved in one old lady in a coma all in my city. The new mayor said no bail. So you can do anything u want. Cops don’t want to be cops I spoke to metro cops they hate it. The are the ones who have to write tickets however they hate the fact that basically they will be charged with murder. For manslaughter thanks alot de Blasio, Cuomo our rich Italian mafioso style leaders had to go but the new one just is all about Black Lives Matter, not Asian ones. If there’s any Asian ball player take a knee but they get black balled like MVP of the ivy league and best player in Palo alto didn’t really get a spot untill Lin Dominated a harvard and best Duke by himself. And he was never drafted. So he was stay wise similar to Kyrie but with way more time in the court. Still bounced around blacks have him corona virus. Teammates. Blacks never truly respect Asians not this generation. Why is it that Africans and Latinos can beat down my people and they get away with it when cause no hate crime. So anyone reading this tell me is the media real? Also tell me what news sites are actually done well not left not right round meaning world news. I have this to say I received my Johnson &J shits 8 months ago. It’s crazy here on LI. Today I mixed and got the mederna shit booster. I didn’t get sick. But will I have to do this every 6 months?

  177. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    The comments I’ve read from chinese people here at unz.com leads me to believe that the chinese see whites as the devil incarnate.

    Not the devil, the devil’s minions maybe. Don’t be always overestimating yourselves.

    And not “the whites”. The Russians are white, and they aint too bad, beneath the grim exterior, they are good guys. The Germans too. they are strict, but fair. Finns never did anybody much harm. Greeks and Romans are admirable for their gifts to mankind. Whatever conquering they did, happened 2000 years ago. Now all forgiven.

    But the USA….now that is a different story. They and their Anglosphere lapdogs still think they are God’s gift to mankind. Strutting around and forcing their ideas down everybody else’s throats.

    But they are not unredeemable. A little humility will make them lovable human beings again. China and Russia will soon see to that.

    While we in the little countries around the world cheer them on. Let me look for a little vodka and baijiu to raise toast to them.

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  178. Athena says:

    Canada (Bronfman, Desmarais, and Austrian-Ukrainian friends) and exports of ”hydrid” and GMO grain and other seeds of destruction in Europe


    Twitter”Canada Trade Commissioner:

    Thanks to CETA, CdnBusinesses can export to the EU with fewer barriers and restrictions.”


    Foodwatch submits complaint to the European Ombudsman against CETA

    https://www.bilaterals.org/?foodwatch-submits-complaint-to-the&lang=en
    (exerpts)

    ”After a long correspondence with European Commission on the trade agreement CETA, foodwatch has submitted today a complaint to the European Ombudsman. The complaint addresses the lack of transparency and democratic deficits of the CETA committees’ work.

    foodwatch complaint

    CETA is a living agreement, negotiations between Canada and Europe continue in committee meetings. The committees meet behind closed doors, negotiating important issues like pesticide protection standards, food controls or genetic engineering standards.

    Decisions on pesticide standards will affect 447 m EU citizens

    For example: Canada wants to get rid of the EU’s precautionary principle as a basis of pesticide standards on EU imports. A lot of money is at stake. Canadian agricultural exports worth more than 1.88 billion EUR (2.7 billion CAN \$) per year are affected by European standards on Minimum Residue Levels (MRLs) of pesticides. 1

    These decisions on pesticide standards within CETA will have a big impact on the food quality of 447 million EU citizens and their health. It is definitely an issue of profound public interest. Yet, we have no way of knowing what is being negotiated.

    CETA is a black box and might even be a box of Pandora for European food safety and health standards. We are not satisfied with the little information that is made available on the negotiations in CETA committees.
    Mirjam Hägele International Campaign Director at foodwatch International

    Decisions are made in secret

    Over the past two years, foodwatch has been working hard to find out what the European Commission and Canada are negotiating under the CETA trade agreement via publicly available documents as well by requesting access to further documents. Parts of the requested preparatory documentation have not been made accessible. All in all, the available documents did not provide sufficient insight into the activities of the CETA committees.”

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  179. Joe Wong says:
    @Uncle Sam

    If foreigners cannot use USD to buy assets in USA, why would people give their currency in exchange for USD? The only way for the Americans to get foreign goods will be barter trade too by then.

  180. DrWatson says:
    @RadicalCenter

    As for RFK junior, he will be mocked and trounced if he were foolish enough to run for the Dem presidential nomination.

    Naturally, RFK would be a better candidate for the Republican party.

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  181. @DrWatson

    The Deep State murdered his uncle and probably his father, so, seeing as they run the Demoncrazy Party, I doubt that he would be approved. If he did too well despite that-pop goes the weasel!

  182. @Athena

    ANOTHER example of how ‘liberal democracy’ is a sad, sick, joke. Give me a ‘despot’ who is not in the pay of those profiting from mass murder by pesticide poisoning, EVERY day.

  183. @CosmicMythos

    The Jews were NEVER an enslaved people in Egypt. If you believe Torah mythology, you are in a bad place. Most Judaic ‘history’ is pure invention. All the great civilizations you mention subsumed others, and were vivisected by invaders, from time to time, eg Mongols, Manchus, Indo-Europeans, Mughals, Macedonians, blah, blah, but eventually incorporated them into their civilization. By where are the Canaanites, Midianites, Moabites, Hittites, Etruscans, Jebusites etc?

  184. @TheJamesRocket

    Ok – thanks… So somewhat similar… And then they can’t complain either if they simply lost…

  185. “The US – with US\$30 trillion in debt, 236% of its militarized GDP – is virtually bankrupt.”

    The US has an additional US\$100 trillion for unsecured government debt to pensioners, Social security, medicare, etc. To this, we must add another \$100trillion US dollars held by simple folks around the world, for a rainy day. When the USD slide these holders will buy other currencies to protect their nest egg.
    Consequently, the avalanche sell-off will start as soon as the smallest sign of weakness is detected. It is noteworthy that Russia and China have already started their divestiture in favor of buying gold.
    The real debt of the US is nothing short of cataclysmic.

  186. Malla says:
    @Sanjay

    Hence, the West (Ashkenazim) will defeat Russia and China in the long run.

    The Ashkenazim Wall Street have their own special relations with China. They help China as CCP allows them to make some money in Hong Kong. Israel has its own special relations with China too.

  187. @CosmicMythos

    Thanks for your info.. but it doesn’t detract from my assertion that Deng’s Southern Tour in 1992 coincided with the reestablishment of full diplomatic relations between China and Israel. The Southern Tour in 1992 is widely considered as the seminal event that kickstarted China’s meteoric rise and modernization.

    Was Deng 87 or 88?

    In China, it is the ancient custom to add one year at birth and on Chinese Lunar New Year another year is added and the baby becomes two years of age. See Wikipedia’s entry for “East Asian age reckoning” for more info.

    Moreover, China did not fully adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1949 and Deng and his generation would have adhered to the old custom of adding 1 year to his age from birth. The Chinese still use their old calendar to celebrate the new year aka “Lunar New Year.”

    The dates of the Southern Tour was January 18 to February 21, 1992. The Chinese Lunar New Year in 1992 was February 4. The Southern Tour dates overlapped the Chinese Lunar New Year. So according to Chinese ancient custom, Deng was already 88-years of age when he began his Southern Tour and became 89-years old on February 4, 1992.

    Now that I’ve had more time to think about it, the Southern Tour was very unusual in its timing. It was very strange that the Paramount leader chose to tour China on official business during the Chinese Lunar New Year. Normally, China literally shuts down for 2 weeks or more during this holiday.

    The more I think about it, the more I think the Southern Tour was a numerical ritual done pursuant to Jewish Cabalistic beliefs and superstition. Although the Chinese are superstitious people and believe in lucky numbers like the Jews do, they, however, do not practice gematria, which is Jewish.

    Nor do the Chinese take their astrology and zodiac seriously; not the way the Jewish Cabal does. Note the Jewish Cabal chose 2020 (the Chinese year of the Rat) to unleash COVID-19 on the world. In the West “rat” is a pejorative and associated with plague and the Black Death, but in China there is no such association. On the contrary, in Chinese culture rats are used to symbolize wealth and surplus.

    In the Chinese zodiac, the rat begins the 12-year cycle. If I were a betting man, I would bet the COVID-19 “pandemic” will end in the year of the snake in 2025. The snake is the 6th animal of the Chinese zodiac and we all know how much Jews love the number SIX and SNAKES, don’t we?

  188. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    Oh I am working very hard to make people see you as the demonic creatures you are. I always stress the point that coexistence is impossible.

    I couldn’t care less about what the Jews think of you except if they think they can exploit us again it will be the last thing they ever do.

  189. @Walter

    Sir Isaac Isaacs, retired Australian Governor General, was emphatic on that. Focus on defeating Hitler, do NOT let the European Jews move into Palestine, other peoples’ land. If that is allowed they will become the Herrenvolk of Palestine. It was, they did, they are.

    An observant Jew, his worst nightmare came true, virtually from the day he died.

  190. @CosmicMythos

    Cosmicmythos from elmerfidzie. I suppose that my, not entirely clear thesis, can be summed up this way; China will now exploit Afghanistan under the guise of the BRI. Libya’s oil will be sold on the spot market and not under the control of an elected central government (privatization). Ditto for Iraq, although privatization did not take a firm hold, those investing international corporations relish all the chaos that was a result of this mini-war, now they exploit oil fields near Basra and Kirkuk. Meanwhile the Iraqi Kurds and Arabs will be at each others throats for some time to come. China will move into this scenario as it did in African Oil bearing nations…, all this bloodletting launched by the King of Chaos, the Wests’ MICs and their armed forces, all under the control of adventurists like George Bush, Dick Cheney, Bechtel, Halliburton and their corporate associates.

    It seems that the USA does the “groundbreaking” work, i.e., topple governments with force, while corporate investors infuse privatization schemes plying the black art of divide and conquer stratagems.

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