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Putin’s address to the Russian Federal Assembly – a de facto State of the Nation – was a judo move that left Atlanticist sphere hawks particularly stunned.

The “West” was not even mentioned by name. Only indirectly, or via a delightful metaphor, Kipling’s Jungle Book. Foreign policy was addressed only at the end, almost as an afterthought.

For the best part of an hour and a half, Putin concentrated on domestic issues, detailing a series of policies that amount to the Russian state helping those in need – low income families, children, single mothers, young professionals, the underprivileged – with, for instance, free health checks all the way to the possibility of an universal income in the near future.

Of course he would also need to address the current, highly volatile state of international relations. The concise manner he chose to do it, counter-acting the prevailing Russophobia in the Atlanticist sphere, was quite striking.

First, the essentials. Russia’s policy “is to ensure peace and security for the well-being of our citizens and for the stable development of our country.”

Yet if “someone does not want to…engage in dialogue, but chooses an egoistic and arrogant tone, Russia will always find a way to stand up for its position.”

He singled out “the practice of politically motivated, illegal economic sanctions” to connect it to “something much more dangerous”, and actually rendered invisible in the Western narrative: “the recent attempt to organize a coup d’etat in Belarus and the assassination of that country’s president.” Putin made sure to stress, “all boundaries have been crossed”.

The plot to kill Lukashenko was unveiled by Russian and Belarusian intel – which detained several actors backed, who else, US intel. The US State Department predictably denied any involvement.

Putin: “It is worth pointing to the confessions of the detained participants in the conspiracy that a blockade of Minsk was being prepared, including its city infrastructure and communications, the complete shutdown of the entire power grid of the Belarusian capital. This, incidentally means preparations for a massive cyber-attack.”

And that leads to a very uncomfortable truth: “Apparently, it’s not for no reason that our Western colleagues have stubbornly rejected numerous proposals by the Russian side to establish an international dialogue in the field of information and cyber-security.”

“Asymmetric, swift and harsh”

Putin remarked how to “attack Russia” has become “a sport, a new sport, who makes the loudest statements.” And then he went full Kipling: “Russia is attacked here and there for no reason. And of course, all sorts of petty Tabaquis [jackals] are running around like Tabaqui ran around Shere Khan [the tiger] – everything is like in Kipling’s book – howling along and ready to serve their sovereign. Kipling was a great writer”.

The – layered – metaphor is even more startling as it echoes the late 19th century geopolitical Great Game between the British and Russian empires, of which Kipling was a protagonist.

Once again Putin had to stress that “we really don’t want to burn any bridges. But if someone perceives our good intentions as indifference or weakness and intends to burn those bridges completely or even blow them up, he should know that Russia’s response will be asymmetric, swift and harsh”.

So here’s the new law of the geopolitical jungle – backed by Mr. Iskander, Mr. Kalibr, Mr. Avangard, Mr. Peresvet, Mr. Khinzal, Mr. Sarmat, Mr. Zircon and other well-respected gentlemen, hypersonic and otherwise, later complimented on the record. Those who poke the Bear to the point of threatening “the fundamental interests of our security will regret what has been done, as they have regretted nothing for a very long time.”

The stunning developments of the past few weeks – the China-US Alaska summit, the Lavrov-Wang Yi summit in Guilin, the NATO summit, the Iran-China strategic deal, Xi Jinping’s speech at the Boao forum – now coalesce into a stark new reality: the era of a unilateral Leviathan imposing its iron will is over.

For those Russophobes who still haven’t got the message, a cool, calm and collected Putin was compelled to add, “clearly, we have enough patience, responsibility, professionalism, self-confidence, self-assurance in the correctness of our position and common sense when it comes to making any decisions. But I hope that no one will think about crossing Russia’s so-called red lines. And where they run, we determine ourselves in each specific case.”

Back to realpolitik, Putin once again had to stress the “special responsibility” of the “five nuclear states” to seriously discuss “issues related to strategic armament”. It’s an open question whether the Biden-Harris administration – behind which stand a toxic cocktail of neo-cons and humanitarian imperialists – will agree.

Putin: “The goal of such negotiations could be to create an environment of conflict-free coexistence based on equal security, covering not only strategic weapons such as intercontinental ballistic missiles, heavy bombers and submarines, but also, I would like to emphasize, all offensive and defensive systems capable of solving strategic tasks, regardless of their equipment.”

As much as Xi’s address to the Boao forum was mostly directed to the Global South, Putin highlighted how “we are expanding contacts with our closest partners in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the BRICS, the Commonwealth of Independent States and the allies of the Collective Security Treaty Organization”, and extolled “joint projects in the framework of the Eurasian Economic Union”, billed as “practical tools for solving the problems of national development.”

In a nutshell: integration in effect, following the Russian concept of “Greater Eurasia”.

“Tensions skirting wartime levels”

Now compare all of the above with the White House Executive Order (EO) declaring a “national emergency” to “deal with the Russian threat”.

This is directly connected to President Biden – actually the combo telling him what to do, complete with earpiece and teleprompter – promising Ukraine’s President Zelensky that Washington would “take measures” to support Kiev’s wishful thinking of retaking Donbass and Crimea.

ORDER IT NOW

There are several eyebrow-raising issues with this EO. It denies, de facto, to any Russian national the full rights to their US property. Any US resident may be accused of being a Russian agent engaged in undermining US security. A sub-sub paragraph (C), detailing “actions or policies that undermine democratic processes or institutions in the United States or abroad”, is vague enough to be used to eliminate any journalism that supports Russia’s positions in international affairs.

Purchases of Russian OFZ bonds have been sanctioned, as well as one of the companies involved in the production of the Sputnik V vaccine. Yet the icing on this sanction cake may well be that from now on all Russian citizens, including dual citizens, may be barred from entering US territory except via a rare special authorization on top of the ordinary visa.

The Russian paper Vedomosti has noted that in such paranoid atmosphere the risks for large companies such as Yandex or Kaspersky Lab are significantly increasing. Still, these sanctions have not been met with surprise in Moscow. The worst is yet to come, according to Beltway insiders: two packages of sanctions against Nord Stream 2 already approved by the US Department of Justice.

The crucial point is that this EO de facto places anyone reporting on Russia’s political positions as potentially threatening “American democracy”. As top political analyst Alastair Crooke has remarked, this is a “procedure usually reserved for citizens of enemy states during times of war”. Crooke adds, “US hawks are upping the ante fiercely against Moscow. Tensions and rhetoric are skirting wartime levels.”

It’s an open question whether Putin’s State of the Nation will be seriously examined by the toxic lunatic combo of neocons and humanitarian imperialists bent on simultaneously harassing Russia and China.

But the fact is something extraordinary has already started to happen: a “de-escalation” of sorts.

Even before Putin’s address, Kiev, NATO and the Pentagon apparently got the message implicit in Russia moving two armies, massive artillery batteries and airborne divisions to the borders of Donbass and to Crimea – not to mention top naval assets moved from the Caspian to the Black Sea. NATO could not even dream of matching that.

Facts on different grounds speak volumes. Both Paris and Berlin were terrified of a possible Kiev clash directly against Russia, and lobbied furiously against it, bypassing the EU and NATO.

Then someone – it might have been Jake Sullivan – must have whispered on Crash Test Dummy’s earpiece that you don’t go around insulting the head of a nuclear state and expect to keep your global “credibility”. So after that by now famous “Biden” phone call to Putin came the invitation to the climate change summit, in which any lofty promises are largely rhetorical, as the Pentagon will continue to be the largest polluting entity on planet Earth.

So Washington may have found a way to keep at least one avenue of dialogue open with Moscow. At the same time Moscow has no illusions whatsoever that the Ukraine/Donbass/Crimea drama is over. Even if Putin did not mention it in the State of the Nation. And even if Defense Minister Shoigu has ordered a de-escalation.

The always inestimable Andrei Martyanov has gleefully noted the “cultural shock when Brussels and D.C. started to suspect that Russia doesn’t ‘want’ Ukraine. What Russia wants is for this country to rot and implode without excrement from this implosion hitting Russia. West’s paying for the clean up of this clusterf**k is also in Russian plans for Ukrainian Bantustan.”

The fact that Putin did not even mention Bantustan in his speech corroborates this analysis. As far as “red lines” are concerned, Putin’s implicit message remains the same: a NATO base on Russia’s western flank simply won’t be tolerated. Paris and Berlin know it. The EU is in denial. NATO will always refuse to admit it.

We always come back to the same crucial issue: whether Putin will be able, against all odds, to pull a combined Bismarck-Sun Tzu move and build a lasting German-Russian entente cordiale (and that’s quite far from an “alliance’). Nord Stream 2 is an essential cog in the wheel – and that’s what’s driving Washington hawks crazy.

Whatever happens next, for all practical purposes Iron Curtain 2.0 is now on, and it simply won’t go away. There will be more sanctions. Everything was thrown at the Bear short of a hot war. It will be immensely entertaining to watch how, and via which steps, Washington will engage on a “de-escalation and diplomatic process” with Russia.

The Hegemon may always find a way to deploy a massive P.R. campaign and ultimately claim a diplomatic success in “dissolving” the impasse. Well, that certainly beats a hot war. Otherwise, lowly Jungle Book adventurers have been advised: try anything funny and be ready to meet “asymmetric, swift and harsh”.

(Republished from The Vineyard of the Saker by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. tyrone says:

    The pigeon will strut around on the chess board pretending it won.

    • Agree: Reactionary Utopian
    • LOL: GMC
    • Replies: @Majority of One
  2. “Iron curtain 2.0 is now on and simply won’t go away.”
    Does this wall keep them in or keep them out?It looks like
    Belarus just got “wokened”and will no longer tolerate
    the peaceful democracies advance on the “evil communists”.
    It takes two to tango…who’ll finally stop the orchestration?

  3. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:

    Skimming through the transcript of the address, it struck me that Russia has evolved a National Socialism, with strong emphasis on traditional family values and focus upon the welfare of all of its people.
    China seems to be evolving a similar system, with similar values.
    It all seems so very SANE!

    I only hope this sanity spreads to the west… preferably without war.

    As for Putins few words regarding the USA/NATOs’ insane provokations, may the USA, NATO and other malignat forces take note! – Or may Russias’ “swift, asymetric” response be on target.

    The world needs a change in direction, away from unilateral hegemony and from finance capital, away from “wokeness” and make-believe histories. These changes can be achieved peacefully… but only if the puppet politicians stop taking direction from their (((financial backers))). If they continue down this road, we all loose.

  4. For the best part of an hour and a half, Putin concentrated on domestic issues, detailing a series of policies that amount to the Russian state helping those in need – low income families, children, single mothers, young professionals, the underprivileged – with, for instance, free health checks all the way to the possibility of an universal income in the near future.

    Fake “equality”, Medical tyranny and universal basic income are some of the primary tenants of the great reset agenda. Of course, they dress it up in “humanitarian” rhetoric. Russia had lockdowns across almost the entire country a year ago, and has recently made holocaust denial a crime.

    It is amazing to me that people here do not see this. Sure Putin says some good things; they play their role in the mostly false east/west paradigm. But sadly, they are heavily compromised, and they are on board with the globalist agenda.

    The enemy of my enemy can also be my enemy.

  5. BT says:

    What an interesting summary of Russia’s current situation.

    A country that is falling behind all of its cohorts, more and more, year after year, is somehow schooling and threatening the west with their new style of society in the manliest way. Putin, as we know, is a very powerful and manly leader.

    It’s hard to make the Soviet Union look good, but Putin’s really making them look pretty good. The Soviets actually built up that country, in their own awful way. Putin is a leach, and there’s been little progress under his leadership. At best he has brought forth a partial, flawed and unstable restoration of the Soviet system. Which was a system that really did have a lot of flaws in the first place.

    But Putin is smart about one thing, having a big military CAN get you a seat at the table with the big boys. But Russia really can’t afford that seat in the long run, and it can afford it even less than the Soviet Union could. The State of California alone has twice the GDP of Russia.

    Just a reminder, invading Ukraine some more will NOT make anything in Russia better, even if it makes Vlad feel better. Here’s another observation: China will not turn out to be a strategic partner to Russia, they never have been and never will be.

    You just never know how these kinds of dictatorships will end. What does happen after the big man retires? Who gets all of his money and real estate? No one knows. It’s never pretty. Democracy doesn’t always select the right people (see Trump (unless you’re Vlad – well played!)), but that’s actually not the key point.

    The key is that in a democracy, on a periodic basis, rid can yourself of a leader who is not working out (Trump again). If only the Russians could do so.

  6. @tyrone

    …And pooping all over the board.

  7. Off topic: Space and technology fascinates me immensely. I even believe it is technology that evolves societies more than spirituality or philosophy. And Russia has always been at the forefront of space technology.
    I am an indian and I studied in canada for many years. One day an American guest lecturer gave us a lecture in which he said “Do you know why we Americans won the space race?” Because we were doing it in the intention of helping all mankind, and for the betterment of science and knowledge. The Russians on the other hand were doing it for nationalistic and political reasons. And this is why despite having a headstart, despite putting a man in space first, they faltered. Whereas Americans landed on the moon and continue to be the leader in space technology.

    • Replies: @Carlos22
    , @FB
    , @Rdm
    , @Carroll Price
  8. Icy Blast says:
    @BT

    Russia is “falling behind” the United States? In what way? You must be taking some very powerful drugs. Are you actually Jen Psaki? Or Brian Stelter? I think you need to check yourself into rehab.

    • Replies: @tyrone
  9. @BT

    What an utter crock of crap. Example: The GDP of California. Who are the biggest employers in Kali? The WarDefense industry, of course. They are also the biggest moneymakers, sucking up billions upon billions, mounting into trillions from the ever-suffering American taxpayer. Leading the pack of parasites is Lockheed-Martin, whose primary owners just happen to be London Bank$ters, led and directed by the Rottenchild Crime Clan.

    Second in Kali’s race to the roses is Hollywood and the Tribalists who have run the place, virtually since its inception. Contemporary movies are Krappola. Full of shootemups, car-chases, explosions and similar violence provoking, deliberate dumbing down of the American people, and even worse, exported all over the world to rake in those shekels.

    Then there’s the rentier economy, centered on real-estate speculation, also adding hugely to their GDP. That metric is totally a false paradigm and essentially meaningless in determining the economic health of a nation. Consider the masses of homeless in California, jamming up streets, parks in their largest cities. Many of them have lost their homes due to the plandemic. Others are drugged out beyond comprehension, self-medicating in the face of a near terminally insane culture.

    As for “democracy”, that is one of the biggest crocks of craps ever shoved down the throats of innocent children as well as the adulterated ones who are allegedly grown-up. The only actual forms of democracy in the U$ are (1. annual township meetings where each resident of the township has one vote and the whole process is free and open and (2. Initiative and Referendum, which is on the law books in a relative handful of enlightened states, where WE THE PEOPLE can create laws (such as legalizing cannabis) and not leave it entirely to bought and paid-for pro$titicians in the Di$trict of Corruption and all too many states across the fruited plain.

    In stark contrast, Russia constitutes probably the most well-run country in the industrialized world. Perhaps I should say, major country, as some lands such as Iceland are currently very responsive to their citizenry and even jailed a bunch of their most corrupted bank$ters who had made deals with Perfidious Albion which had greatly harmed the good people of that island republic. There is no doubt in my deeply studied and researched mind that Vladimir Putin is the premiere statesman in the world today. He is not a mere politician. His common-sense, levelheaded approach to governance is quite possibly the equal to that of Bismarck.

    As for dictatorships, why speak of speck in someone else’s eye, when you have a log in your own. Consider $leepy Joe Biden, the (s)elected Pretzeldunce. He has been nothing more than a self-seeking corporate shill (he does hail from the state of Dupont) all through his checkered career; happens to be as corrupt as the day is long and is now shuffling through an advanced state of dementia, having reached his dotage even before his 80th year. Biding her time in the wings is Willie Brown’s favorite laplander, Kamala’s Foote, who never received one single delegate vote in the Democrat primaries but who was selected by Biden’s handlers to replace him when his dementia reaches the drooling stage. Democracy, all right.

    Sir, you are a typically naive American. All the more erudite international posters and lurkers on this site have surely grinned in mordant amusement at your public display of arrogance commingled with ignorance. Likely you get your information and opinions via boobtoob noose and national pubic radio. Or maybe you are so highly edjumicated that you are a subscriber to the Chew Pork Slymes.

  10. Big Ron says:

    @BT

    Just wondering if your post is the result of pay for play for some USAID-type agency?

    “The state of California alone has twice the GDP of Russia” sure sounds like a government-issued and inspired talking point.

    “Invading Ukraine” is another poorly-disguised give-away.

    Russia suffered at least 100,000 war dead defending Crimea when UK and France (among others) invaded Crimea. Something tells me the Russian people (especially in Crimea) are quite strongly-motivated by this knowledge, even for events dating to the 1850’s. The only true “invasion” worthy of discussion on this subject was in 1853 by most of the usual suspects among Western governments.

    Small wonder that in 2014, 97% of Crimeans exercised their citizen’s rights and voted to join the Russian Federation. Pew Research from the US called the election “free and fair.”

    Better luck next time posting something at least in the zip code of sensible.

    • Agree: John Q Duped
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    , @erzberger
  11. Katerina says:

    To BT

    Brainwashed much? You must be an American. You poor, sad people..
    The good start for you and those like you is to stop watching and reading your MSM’s and actually try and get the information that will provide you with actual FACTS. Right now you are just repeating the crapola you heard on your totally controlled and privately owned so-called mass media. Don’t embarass yourself.

    • Agree: John Q Duped
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  12. profnasty says:
    @BT

    California is a port city. SanFran is playing with fire in it’s dalliance with Communism. Tinseltown? Pornography. Agriculture. – OK.
    Russia sits on natural resources beyond compare. It has good social cohesion on a sound moral footing.
    All of America’s gargantuan economy rests on dangerous debt obligation, social unrest, and forced alliances.
    I like Russia’s position in this.
    The Triad allows Putin to talk to our President, eye to eye. If we had one.

  13. Thim says:

    (((Blinken))) responded by authorizing flying the fag flag at all American Embassies. Not sure what he is saying to the goyiim with that. Come plunk us in the arse?

    • LOL: Bro43rd, Irish Savant
  14. @BT

    This echo chamber is so hollow it will not even play in Peoria. Nor anywhere else.

  15. FB says: • Website
    @BT

    A country that is falling behind all of its cohorts, more and more, year after year…

    Yeah right. Which is why Russia has the world’s second-biggest immigrant population. All those ‘wealthy’ neighbors want to get in on that sweet sweet ‘poverty’?

    Why don’t you put down the hopium pipe and go have a look at this ‘miserable’ country for yourself? As many of us have done.

    I would be much more concerned about the house of cards right here at home, friend. For lots of folks in the land of Disney and Larry Fink, a folding cardboard box would actually be a step up the ladder of ‘upward mobility,’ lol.

    But nice try. I guess some folks will still buy the ‘sizzle’ eh?

    • LOL: Jazman, Cortes
    • Replies: @marckus
  16. @BT

    The Russians don’t want to rid themselves of their democratically elected leader, Vlad Putin.

    They like him. He is good to them. Unlike the US’s dictator “leaders.”

  17. GMC says:

    During the summer months, tens of thousands of Ukies will be coming to Crimea, in order to check on their flats, garages, dacha, visiting a health sanatorium. And of course – soaking up the sun and bathing in the Black Sea, just like they have done for decades, with No ill will directed at all. And the Sanctions will continue and the media will call Crimea – an Occupied State. In deed, we are occupied – Happily . If only the Western Bolsheviks could be happy, with their current destruction of the Americas – and leave us alone.

    • Agree: Ukraine Tiger
    • Thanks: Robjil, Alfred
  18. FB says: • Website
    @stevennonemaker88

    Yeah, what’s the world coming to when we want to make sure that our children have their basic needs looked after?

    Heaven forbid that King Bezos should spare a dime or two so that a working mom can know that her kid is getting a hot meal at school?

    • Replies: @Rooster11
  19. Ross23 says:

    It appears at face value Ukraine and NATO crapped their pants and backed down.

    Now everyone wants to meet up and be best friends.

    Putin better watch out however I’m sure his enemies have more tricks up their sleeves.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  20. Schuetze says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Universal basic income is a Rothschild ploy to set up the goyim for slavery. The Rothschild controlled central bank is also evidence that Russia is owned. The Sputnik vaccine, designed in Israel, released a few months after Covidocaust hit the fan, is more proof that Putin is in on the “great reset”. But the icing on the cake is all of Putin’s yid links.

    • Agree: stevennonemaker88
    • LOL: Alfred
    • Replies: @The Real World
    , @Mefobills
  21. Schuetze says:
    @BT

    Trump was merely controlled opposition, and that is the problem with “democracy”. You get to choose between the guy they want, and the other guy they put there in case you don’t choose the guy they want. Which democracy ever confronted and found a solution to Jewish Power?

  22. Schuetze says:

    “So here’s the new law of the geopolitical jungle – backed by Mr. Iskander, Mr. Kalibr, Mr. Avangard, Mr. Peresvet, Mr. Khinzal, Mr. Sarmat, Mr. Zircon and other well-respected gentlemen, hypersonic and otherwise, later complimented on the record.”

    Typical Russian “Muh big dick” politics. Just wait for the May Day communist “victory” parade in Moscow. It will be more disgusting than watching Putin having a sword fight in a gay bathhouse.

    • Replies: @Fred777
  23. I wonder if Pepe Escobar is allowed into the US. His not being allowed would be further confirmation that in the US “free speech” means speech approved by the elites.

  24. @BT

    A really dumb comment. So many examples but let’s go with this one —
    “Just a reminder, invading Ukraine some more will NOT make anything in Russia better, even if it makes Vlad feel better.”
    Invade the Ukraine? Are you tripping? As the article (& 100’s of others) demonstrate is that the last thing Putin wants is to “invade” the Ukraine?
    For “why” ? To give NATO more excuses for hostility? To engage in the psychosis inducing task of birthing a functioning Ukrainian government?
    The Ukraine is a corpse or golem animated by the shabby, tawdry evil of the West to function as a constant thorn (& provocation) in Russia’s side….

    • Replies: @Manfrog
  25. @stevennonemaker88

    But sadly, they are heavily compromised, and they are on board with the globalist agenda.

    This recently looks more probable for the reasons you cite.

    Also there are conflicting opinions as to how powerful Chabad Lubbovitch is, but that they have any influence at all seems significant. Afaik Putin has not offered the slightest criticism of judeo-bolshevism, nor any mention of the humanitarian crimes committed by the Red Army all the way to Berlin in the roll-up of Op Barbarossa.

    Finally he has openly expressed contempt for Tsar Nicholas who, with wife and children/ retainers (doctor etc) were executed, an event that was celebrated by Jewry worldwide and is suspected to be a Ritual Murder.

    I still hope you are wrong.
    But it’s looking less likely imho.

    • Agree: Schuetze
  26. @BT

    Bizarre post. You seem to be out of touch with reality. What kind of future does a US that has embraced black supremacy have? And as grotesque as US negro worship is, it’s merely one of the many pathologies that, by itself, would suffice to destroy the country. How about schools that indoctrinate but don’t teach or the regime’s determination to destroy the energy industry to avert imaginary “climate change”.

    The US is, as of now, a dystopic cesspool—and it’s rapidly getting worse! Whatever is in store for Russia will be better by default.

    • Agree: Manfrog
  27. Mikael_ says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Very funny.

    You rely on Pepe’s summary, and dish out devastating critique on Putin based on misinterpreting that.

    Putin:
    During the peak [Corona] periods, our hospitals and outpatient clinics had to reduce or even suspend scheduled visits. This increased the risk of the aggravation of chronic illnesses or the risk of missing the first signs of or correctly diagnosing new illnesses.

    I would like to ask the Government, the Healthcare Ministry and the constituent entities of the Russian Federation to expand the system of medical check-ups and periodic screenings, taking into account the current epidemiological situation, and to relaunch them in full measure on July 1, 2021 for people of all ages. They must involve the largest number of people possible.

    See, totally tyrannical and totalitarian!

    On the “the possibility of an universal income in the near future”, I find that a rather sloppy claim by Pepe.

    Putin:
    As soon as in 2022, we must introduce the ‘social treasury’ principles. This means that all federal benefits, pensions and other social payments and services will be provided and paid in a one-stop mode, without having to visit dozens of different agencies, but simply upon marriage, the birth of a child, retirement or other life milestones. Within three years, the vast majority of public and municipal services should be provided to Russian citizens remotely, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, that is, on an ongoing basis.

    ‘Paid in a one-stop mode’ doesn’t mean or imply every citizen has a claim to something.
    All the other individual income support programs Putin talked about regarded families with children.

    Yes, I also see a few worrying points in Putin’s speech, such as the seemingly full acceptance of Globull Warming urgency, but he only mentions it in passing, so I still take it as lip service to push for valid goals of increasing energy efficiency and decreasing pollution in Russia.

    Maybe you Steven should search as carefully for things that indicate total collision course of Putin with the globalist agenda… and use the original speech, not just Pepe’s article.

    • Thanks: GMC, Kali
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  28. For those Russophobes who still haven’t got the message, a cool, calm and collected Putin was compelled to add, (…)

    …which surely was intended to make them even more russophobic, provided you are using that word’s suffix in its original, true sense.

  29. AH14 says:

    Typical nonsense from Pepe. No mention of the jews, no mention of the fact that Russia refuses to apologize about world war 2 and lies about the holocaust. No mention of the thousands of Russians imprisoned for denying the holocaust every year, no mention of the fact that whole country is still on Covid lockdown. No mention of Russian support for BLM and antifa, no mention of the fact the Russian church supports gay marriage and abortion. No mention of the fact that Putin is Jewish.

    People there is a reason all of Eastern Europe prefers NATO and the EU to the new USSR. Everything wrong about the west is even worse in Russia by far. Granted Russia is already in an advanced stage of collapse with non Russians rapidly becoming majorities in most regions and the Jews are positioning China to take over Russia so the whole game will be changing very soon. So given how close is the Russian federation is to disappearing all this Russia talk will look really silly in a few years.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @annamaria
    , @tosh
    , @FB
  30. Critic says:

    The events unfolded as follows. Russia crumbled under the US pressure. Begged US ambassador to go home and ask US for clemency. The US sanctions whip did the job. Mr. Putin folded and caved in. Forces withdrawn from the Ukraine border. Mr. Escobar’s (and others) fantasies of Kiev invasion popped and disappeared into the valley of reality. America, despite the propaganda of the adversaries, is still the “Shere Khan” in a world full of jackals. China will soon follow and switch to lamb mode from wolf warrior status. The noose around China is tightening. I am surprised that Xi didn’t scream “I can’t breathe” at the Climate conference. It’s only a matter of time! Cards well played, Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump.

    • Agree: AH14
    • LOL: Schuetze
    • Replies: @AH14
    , @Buck Ransom
    , @Vidi
  31. annamaria says:
    @Kali

    “If they continue down this road, we all lose.”
    — Correct. The solution is to reform the puppeteers. The citizenry must focus on mega war-profiteers and their paid enablers. The citizenry must realize that their lives are in mortal danger because of the profiteering and traitorous actions by McCains, Clintons, Bushes, Obamas, and other AIPAC/MIC/Banksters’ servants.

    • Agree: Z-man, Ann Nonny Mouse, Druid
    • Replies: @Z-man
  32. Schuetze says:
    @AH14

    He also forgot to mention how Israel bitch slaps Putin around like an angry sheboon bullies a cucked white soy boy.

  33. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    On the surface, what you say is true; he does seem to be articulating notions put forth by the WEF (UBI, universal healthcare, etc). But look closer. His approach is one of national sovereignty, characterised by cooperation in matters of mutually beneficial self interest internationally – economic cooperation across Eurasia and the global south, coupled with a form of “national socialism” (hense ubi, healthcare…) at home.

    His discussion of the demographic crisis/challenges facing Russia, and his obvious support for the family unit in order to address that challenge set him appart from the Internationalists/Money Changers of the post-communist era, who would destroy the family entirely, and make themselves the arbitors of depopulation and of future invitro reproduction.

    So, though the English translation of his address may contain some words and phrases to which we automatically bridle, and though he certainly followed the “pandemic” narrative (which he also addressed in his speach (“…we did not know what we were dealing with.” (or words to that effect)), his overall position is one of STRENGTHENING his nation by strengthening his people, in exact contrast to “western” ZOG entities, which do everything to weaken our nations for exploitation by the Money Lenders.
    The same can be said of China.

    And though it is absolutely possible that he (ans Xi) are simply pupets playing a part, I’m inclined to think that he is actually genuine in his ambitions for national sovereignty and mutually beneficial international cooperation.

    The implossion of the USA is (sadly for those of you who must endure it) a forgone conclusion. It’s reasonable to assume that it will not go quietly into that good night, but is being aimed by ((its controllers)) at Russia and China (and, ofcourse, Iran, but for other reasons) in order to weaken those countries enough that the “great reset” can be implimented GLOBALLY,

    I believe it’s also reasonably reasonable to recognise that the collopse of the US will open the doors of opportunity for a less despotic entity than the ((globalists)) to assert influence and effect changes BENEFICIAL to mankind, and that in doing so, the ((greatest threat to all free people everywhere)) may finally be, if not erradicated, at least put in its place.

    Of course I could be wrong, and merely wishful thinking, but I see no other cause for hope on the horrison. Therefore Putin gets my support and my endorsement.

    • Agree: GMC, Luus Kanin
    • Thanks: Majority of One
  34. annamaria says:
    @AH14

    “No mention of Russian support for BLM and antifa, no mention of the fact the Russian church supports gay marriage and abortion…”
    – Tis is such a poorly arranged hasbara.
    Pepe Escobar is a wonderfully erudite mensch and excellent political analyst. And then comes anonymous Ms. “AH14” and tries to project her self-significance by contradicting Mr. Escobar’s great report.
    Better if you focus on your Kaganat of Nuland. How are the relationships between zionists and banderites there? Still are filled with cordiality and brotherly tenderness?

    • Agree: GomezAdddams, Druid
    • Thanks: Kali
  35. AH14 says:
    @Critic

    Strong agree, Russia is just in a phase of controlled demolition right now. Russians are generally to incompetent and unintelligent to manage a modern state on behalf of world Jewry. They tried to prove their bonafides to the Jews by invading Ukraine with the intention of handing it over to them but the Ukrainians soundly thrashed with modest American help. Not the Jews are just dismantling the RF and putting it under Chinese Jewish management.

  36. @BT

    It is always good to start a day with a dose of good laugh. I find Unz one of the best place with high concentration of USA trained clowns doing their best to entertain.
    I wonder what color is your nose knob is?

    The only area USA is getting ahead of Russia is number of genders invented, flying pigs and overall degeneracy across all areas important to maintain coherent and functional state.

    • LOL: Zarathustra
  37. Fred777 says:
    @BT

    Are you Navalny’s handler at Langley?

    • LOL: Old and Grumpy
  38. How do you move NAVAL assets from the Caspian to the Black Sea?

    • Replies: @Cowboy
    , @Alfred
    , @Golf Channel
  39. Fred777 says:
    @Schuetze

    “It will be more disgusting than watching Putin having a sword fight in a gay bathhouse.”

    Unz readers will have to defer to Schuetze’s experience.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  40. @BT

    “The State of California alone has twice the GDP of Russia.”

    It’s impossible to compare the two because California is part of a much larger economy and Russia is a sovereign nation. California’s economy is artificially inflated because of all the money that’s poured into it from the US Federal government in the form of military expenditures. California has almost 200,000 active duty military personnel. California also has an enormous welfare population with almost 4,000,000 people on food stamps which are heavily subsidized by the Federal government. If California were completely isolated from the US Federal government’s money, it’s economy would be much lower, probably much lower than Russia. Face it, most of the manufacturing that California once had is gone, it really doesn’t have enormous natural resources and other than agriculture, tourism and some oil, it really doesn’t have much going for it. Its full of poor people and getting poorer by the day. Russia has eight times California’s white population, is the most resource rich country in the world and has almost endless potential. California’s future doesn’t look good, it’s sinking to what it was 200 years ago, an unimportant northern appendage of Mexico.

  41. Rooster11 says:
    @FB

    That’s certainly how they bill it to the rubes… and they believe it. Believe me, if it were as simple as Bezos gets taxed higher and all of it pays for local investments, I’d be all for it! However, Bezos just passes most the tax increase on to the consumers through price increases… seen any inflation lately? As for the tax money itself, most of that is siphoned off to special interests, and their wages/salaries. Ever wonder why your local “community organizer” is always driving around in a new Cadillac and lives in the richest neighborhood?

    Also, what was initially billed as only a tax on the rich suddenly encompasses everyone above the poverty line. The hot breakfast isn’t just breakfast, it’s hot lunch, and hot early dinner to go along with the free after school care and programs. These kids then go home to a rental unit that their parents pay nothing for, all afforded by the tax payer. This isn’t to mention the literally thousands of other services offered to the bottom feeder class. All the while, fringe families are wondering why they’re still working when they can hop on the welfare wagon too.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions, or in this case, social programs pushed by our benevolent overlords.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  42. tyrone says:
    @Icy Blast

    “Russia is “falling behind” the United States? In what way?”…….drag queen story time for pre-schoolers?…..tell BT I would rather “fall behind” than fall apart.

  43. tosh says:
    @AH14

    There is a lot of this “Putin is a Jew” nonsense going around. That’s just desperate. It won’t detract from his stature as a statesman. Success is not measured by rhetorical virtual signaling. Success is measured in deeds. The West has no leader who compares. The West has no leaders period, just sad hysterical ninnies trying to remain relevant. Putin is no messiah. Putin is no saint. Russia has its problems. But Putin does command a certain respect that is absolutely lacking in any Western public figure. And this is what the Western elite feel in their guts and this is what they hate.

    • Replies: @marckus
    , @Johan
  44. @stevennonemaker88

    It’s entirely unsurprising that holo-denial would be criminalized in Russia. The legend is largely the work of Stalin’s propaganda machine, which had exclusive access to and control of the alleged death camps in the east taken by the Red Army. Years earlier, when the Soviet Union invaded eastern Poland, they evacuated Jews out of the war zone to camps in Russia. Some 2 ½ to 3 ½ million Jews were relocated this way and it remains in dispute how many lived to see the end of the war. Germans stated that Treblinka and other places were transit camps, where people fit to work were selected, while those who were not were showered, their clothing deloused, then put back on the trains which left them at the edge of Soviet territory. This is why “survivor” narratives consistently recount the “miracle” that water came out of the shower heads in the alleged gas chambers. The bars of coarse soap they were given to wash with were stamped “JF”, the initials of the manufacturer, which some imagined meant Juden Fabrik, made of Jews. Large quantities of the insecticide Zyklon B were used in the clothing fumigation chambers, to kill the lice that carried typhus, a deadly epidemic that was killing tens of thousands all across war-torn Europe. From these data a legend was constructed and the farcical Nuremberg Tribunals conducted to give them apparent reality. The unmasking of phony anti-German atrocity propaganda after the Great War had led to widespread disillusionment, so this could not be allowed to happen a second time. Interestingly, Eisenhower’s Psychological Warfare unit was tasked with, among other things, creating stories to undermine the German people’s faith in their leaders – and this “black ops” phase of their work is the only part that still remains classified Top Secret.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @profnasty
  45. marckus says:
    @tosh

    I agree. There is a tendency on this site to use the stupid peg “Jew this Jew that” whenever the commenter is unable to discern the thrust of someone’s thinking or when they have run out of ideas.

    One can see the same trend in daily politics where the terms racist, fascist. bigot, white supremacist is used. We are at the point now where this nonsense has become so prevalent that calling a fellow these names has no effect. Like the constant use of the words “awesome” and “amazing” to describe even a roll of toilet paper, many words in the English language have been reduced to the level of commonality and vulgarity.

    The people using them thus sound like idiots and those to whom the nouns and adjectives are directed cant even seem to be bothered one way or the other.

    • Replies: @AH14
    , @Johan
  46. Alfred says:
    @BT

    The key is that in a democracy, on a periodic basis, rid can yourself of a leader who is not working out (Trump again). If only the Russians could do so. 🤣

    Election Fraud Cases Continue

  47. marckus says:
    @Joe Paluka

    Great points Joe. At one time California was the Mecca of the US but unfortunately all good things come to an end usually due to the grubby hands of the Politicians. Friends and family of mine who have lived there since the early 70’s have sold everything and moved to Texas/ Florida to start anew. The State according to them has become unbearable.

    As for comparing Cali to Russia, I agree with you there is no comparison. Personally, I would live in Russia especially on the Black Sea coast or the Kuban. Putin’s style relegates our JB to the rank of shoe shine boy.

    Harlem has a GDP 20 times that of my neighbourhood but I doubt I would want to live there !

  48. marckus says:
    @FB

    Elmer looks a lot like SteveNoneMaker88 !

    Unable to get any in the US he moved to Guatemala with his sack and now he is a big hit with the ladies LOL

  49. @Kali

    I only hope this sanity spreads to the west… preferably without war.

    To the extent of their control, real or imagined, Noseberg will never allow it. Even the crude square tire nationalism of a multikult shit-stew poses a real threat to their ill-gotten power.

  50. Mefobills says:
    @Kali

    And though it is absolutely possible that he (ans Xi) are simply pupets playing a part, I’m inclined to think that he is actually genuine in his ambitions for national sovereignty and mutually beneficial international cooperation.

    It’s not possible. The globalists derive all of their energy through the money system, with a form of usury. Usury is a power relation, where those in the power position take sordid gain on the weaker party. (It is not just excessive interest as a form of sordid takings, there are positive interest money systems that are non usurious.)

    China has full control over their money via their state banks, and if you examine Chinese State Policy, the control has solidified even further in recent times.

    Russia plays rope-a-dope with its BIS central bank, especially by stuffing Russian mined gold into said bank. This then allows Russia to emit Rubles and prevents currency shorting attacks. Russia effectively is insulated from exchange rate “bear raids” as a form of economic hitman tactics. Remember, none of the economic sanctions against Russia have worked. Putin does listen to the Stolypin group despite their keeping a low profile.

    A large reason the Hegemon is striking out is that Atlantacism itself is failing due to internal contradictions. Atlantacism is finance capital combined with blue water navy projection combined with “international corporations” and supposedly free markets.

    There is nothing new under the sun, Atlantacism won in WW2, effectively it was finance capitalism winning out over industrial capitalism/national socialism. This time around, history won’t repeat.

    It won’t repeat because the Atlantacists have nothing to offer except liberal degeneracy and bombs for democracy. Democracy bombs are now impotent as Pepe mentioned.

    • Agree: annamaria, Kali
    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  51. Cowboy says:
    @Richard Hill

    Haha. It’s called peepee magic to destroy the Hegemon.

  52. @Joe Paluka

    Excellent comment. The US economy is almost entirely a scam, and feCal’s even more than the rest. The few significant industries left in the US are rapidly being destroyed to satisfy greedy (((stockholders))) or to conform with liberal ideology. Boeing no longer makes airworthy airplanes. Google has corrupted its search algorithm. And so it goes.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @RadicalCenter
  53. AH14 says:
    @marckus

    I’m just telling it exactly how it is. Theres no reason at all to follow geo politics because it’s no different than professional wrestling. America and Russia both say how high when Israel tells them to jump. Russia consistently does what Israel orders them to do. Russia attacked Georgia in 2008 to force the Georgians into a relationship of dependence on Israel. They launched a unprovoked war aggression against Ukraine with the intention of restoring khazaria to Jewry. Ukraine stoped them cold fortunately but Kiev’s reliance on the US will because problematic. Russia acted as Israel’s Trojan horse in Syria and how helps the Israelis conduct airstrikes in Syria.

    Russia is Israel’s attack dog and now they losing their usefulness and the Jews are looking for a better golem with China and the US. That’s all there is to it. “All the world is a stage” Shakespeare figured it out a long time ago.

    • LOL: Kali
  54. Z-man says:
    @annamaria

    You forgot to mention the top traitors and enemies, the NEOCONS and the globohomo anti Christ elite.

    • Agree: Agent76
  55. @AH14

    “Not the Jews are just dismantling the RF and putting it under Chinese Jewish management.”

    Are the Chinese secret Jews or is the “management” a joint venture, really Chinese-Jewish?

  56. G J T says:

    Putin is a Jewish puppet and Russia is ZOG East. Chabad Likudnik kikes control Russia and leftist, Trotskyist Jews control the USA. Thanks to Stalin, Russia and Eastern Europe are not quite as far down the Jewish road to degeneracy and poz, but they will get there.

    Geopolitics is theater.

    • Thanks: stevennonemaker88
  57. Alfred says:
    @Richard Hill

    How do you move NAVAL assets from the Caspian to the Black Sea?

    The Russian ships are designed so as to be able to cross land. Special large tires are used. A bit like the Vikings moving their ships from one river to the next.

    • LOL: Biff, FB
  58. @Richard Hill

    There are two canals that connect that connect the Caspian Sea to the Black Sea.

  59. I wish for once that Putin would come right out and mention the zionist central banking kabal that was behind the bolshevik revolution in Russia and was behind WWI and WWII and turning China over to Mao and his communists and behind the destruction of the middle east and the Maidan revolution in the Ukraine, and now are behind the color revolution here in America and so much more it would take a book to list it all, and by the way their is an excellent book on this, The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed.

    Putin is the only true statesman on the world stage, and he stands alone with a pack of ravenous wolves surrounding he and Russia.

    • Agree: profnasty
  60. Biff says:
    @BT

    22 posts over three years, and most of them being anti-Trump(TDS) screeds.

    Yea. We got us a real looper from the bowels of the DNC.

    Well, there are some who appreciate a good punching bag and you’re “it”.

  61. @Rooster11

    I was going to reply to FB, but you said it better. Of course we would prefer a living wage and a just economic system… but that is the LAST thing you will get from the elites.

    Thank you!

  62. Mefobills says:
    @Joe Paluka

    “The State of California alone has twice the GDP of Russia.”

    Purchase Power Parity is the better way to measure.

    PPP of Russia is probably just behind Germany. Russia could do better, no doubt.

    Globalist/Atlantacists would like nothing more than to attach dollar denominated debts to Russia’s natural resources and people. Dollar denominated debts are code for Federal Reserve Notes, which in turn is international finance of private banking. The international debt money system includes more than just dollars, but dollars are the dominant mode.

    Like I said earlier, Putin does listen to the Stolypin group, and Sergey Glazyev is no dummy. But, Putin also listens to Elvira Nabiullina, which hinders Russia somewhat, in that she believes in western neo-liberal economics.

    • Replies: @Avery
  63. @Arthur MacBride

    Thanks Arthur, I agree. Putin does say some good things, and I used to think Russia really was a good alternative to the West. But the covid madness, recent holocaust denial laws (signed by Putin), vaccine push, etc. have opened my eyes. The fact that they are promoting UBI is pretty much a giveaway. I’m not saying they are exactly the same as the west; but they ABSOLUTELY are involved with the great reset agenda, and they are not the good guys afterall. Russia has had tremendous problems with corruption, has aborted over a hundred million babies, and has a white fertility rate below replacement. I’m not trying to sh!t on Russia; just pointing out that the West = bad, East= good narrative is lies. People are desperate for a glimmer of hope during these dark times, and so it is easy for them to be conned into siding with a fake alternative.

    • Replies: @emersonreturn
  64. @Mikael_

    I do not speak Russian, and unfortunately have to rely on translations into my native tongue. That being said, even RT which is a Russian site confirmed much of this; the holocaust denial laws, corona lockdowns, vaccine push, etc.

    I’m not saying that everything Putin or Russia does is bad. In fact, I used to think they were a good alternative to the West. However, the events of the last few years have opened my eyes to the fact that they are heavily compromised. Electronic health passes for Moscow, censorship, UBI, quazi mandatory vaccines, etc. These are all parts of the great reset agenda, and Russia is going along with every one of them.

    I know that the West is utterly corrupt and Evil. Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that seeing the East as the light is mostly “hopium” and falsehood.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Mikael_
    , @Alfred
  65. Armoric says:

    ” whether Putin will be able (…) to build a lasting German-Russian entente cordiale “

    Pepe Escobar would like to be a smart, respected geopolitical analyst, talking about the subtle interplay of national interests, as if he still lived in the 19th century. It’s not that European governments in the 19th century really worked for the common good and for their national interests. They were more interested in states and empires than in protecting the race. But since then, they have gone completely mad. Under Jewish domination, the new priority of Western governments is to destroy the White race in Russia, as well as in America and Western Europe. It makes it harder to try to look intelligent while talking about geopolitics.

    I wonder why Germany is less aggressive than the USA against Russia. Since the German government’s priority is to destroy the Germans, I would expect it to both dismantle the nuclear plants and refuse the Russian gas pipelines. Anyway, the primary problem is that Western governments are under Jewish anti-White domination. It explains the Western aggression against Russia, as well as the political power of the loony left.

    In his speech where he mentioned the Jungle book, Putin also threatened to use nuclear weapons against the West. Before he nukes us and gets nuked in return, I wish he would spill the beans and inform Western people about the JQ. It would make more sense than criminalizing WWII revisionism. It could save the White race, as well as saving Russia from Western aggression.

  66. Mefobills says:
    @Ray Caruso

    The US economy is almost entirely a scam, and feCal’s even more than the rest. The few significant industries left in the US are rapidly being destroyed to satisfy greedy (((stockholders))) or to conform with liberal ideology

    .

    The U.S. is being destroyed by Finance Capitalism, which is unable to differentiate between speculative capital and productive capital. Liberalism is part of it, as FC funds liberal ideology with recycled profits made by sordid gain, so the gain can continue. Parasites like their easy life.

    The last several cycles of money creation in the U.S. have all channeled into non-production. The .com bubble, housing bubble, and now the latest bubble is of paper finance in wall street. This is all empty calories, and polarizes society into haves and have-nots. Finance Oligarchy arises.

    The only legitimate path for credit creation is to channel toward production and improving the commons. Industrial capitalism is characterized by state credit channeling toward industry and productive modes, not consumption or speculation. The interest on state credit can be paid back by improved production and living conditions. The interest collected is then re-spent back into the economy to lower taxes.

    Both China and Russia are improving their industry, commons, schools, roads, bridges, rail, waterways, food production, food quality, etc. Their militaries are low cost because they are close in area denial (defense) and do not need to power project.

    Nobody can say that the west is improving, as Atlantacists think that wealth is measured by speculative finance capital as it emanates from London, and Wall Street.

    • Replies: @anon
  67. Carlos22 says:
    @RJ Macready

    Your post is a typical example of the more something is repeated the more people believe it and it becomes the established truth in the west.

    Russia put the first Satellite in Space

    Russia put the first man in space

    Russia put the first woman in space

    Russia did. the first space walk

    Russia put the first space station in orbit.

    The US put a man on the moon 52 years ago and suddenly they win a race (something looking more dubious with each passing decade)

    Does the race change when the Chinese send someone to Mars, is there a beginning and end to the race?

    The latest news space x will be delaying their development of a moon rocket that was originally scheduled for 2024.

    LOL how convenient that they struggle to rebuild something in 2021 that worked with a computer the power of a pocket calculator in 1969.

    The next thing they’ll say they won in Afghanistan and the sham corrupt two horse race every 4 years is the greatest democracy on earth.

    It’s all show business bull shit once you pull the curtain back you realize there was nothing ever there but a fragile false belief system.

    • LOL: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @G J T
    , @profnasty
  68. Agent76 says:

    Apr 15, 2021 Putin Orders Live Fire Drills to Attack ‘Enemy’ TODAY as US Warship to Arrive in Black Sea

    THE RUSSIAN navy has announced it will hold live-fire drills in the Black Sea as tensions with the US threaten to boil over into conflict.

    Sep 6, 2020 John Bolton upset Belarus protests did not lead to regime change

    Russia and Belarus are preparing to reopen borders that were closed because of the coronavirus pandemic and are discussing rerouting Belarusian oil exports through Russia, news outlets reported after high-level talks Thursday.

  69. Putin’s Zioterrorist business partners can count on him for their globalist projects, from plandemic to “climate change” to strategic use of force. He sees Russia’s development to be possible only within the post-WW2 world order imposed and managed by the Ziocorporate West to which he wants to add a few Russian tweaks that won’t upset things too much.

    That’s kind of good for Russian people to the extent that Putin, unlike the Western terrorists, doesn’t seem to think the world’s overpopulated, which would be ridiculous anyway since Russia doesn’t have even 10 people per square kilometre and wants to stimulate internal consumerism and the Soviet legacy of providing everyone with healthcare and education, despite the size of the country, isn’t about to be ditched.

    But not unlike the US Zioterrorists, the Russian military-industrial complex and the Russian Zioligarchs invested in strategic industries like Gazprom (50% privatised), Rosneft (even BP owns part of it, and through it, of Venezuela’s PDVSA whose gold was stolen by British Zioterrorist scum), and others see 1000x more profits and benefits from Putin pro-Zioterrorist business stance than the average Russian ever will.

    “Re-writing” geopolitics? Nice joke but it has nothing to do with the adjustments going on.

    • Thanks: stevennonemaker88
  70. Halo you deaf and blind!
    There is negro revolution and takeover going on in US. Precisely on the pattern of South Africa.
    All US government is on its knees praying to negro for mercy.
    Autistic Biden is trying to cover up the negro revolution by verbally attacking Russia and China.
    Not even Moliere would write better comedy.
    Remember the prophecy: The stupid will inherit the world!

  71. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Mefobills

    A large reason the Hegemon is striking out is that Atlantacism itself is failing due to internal contradictions. Atlantacism is finance capital combined with blue water navy projection combined with “international corporations” and supposedly free markets.

    Another way of thinking about it is Atlantacism is a fiat currency Ponzi scheme backed by hollowed out industrial economy, tech, media propaganda, and a lot of firepower. Jews have their hooks deeply into media propaganda and the big banks that maintain the Ponzi scheme.

    There is nothing new under the sun, Atlantacism won in WW2, effectively it was finance capitalism winning out over industrial capitalism/national socialism. This time around, history won’t repeat.

    A parasite run Ponzi scheme vs. a real economy? Forget about it.

    America can only recover if it gets rid of the parasites soon. Then it can rebuild its industrial economy, advance its tech economy, and install media that informs and lifts up the people, not one that subverts and uses them for malignant and malicious Zionism/”Jews” and their utterly selfish and megalomaniac agenda of parasitic narcissism and paranoid totalitarian control.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  72. Schuetze says:
    @Fred777

    You have no idea how raunchy it gets. I have watched a lot of May Day parades, and they are all displays of sadistic Russian Generals with medal salads pinned to their chests, drooling over giant missiles and dreaming about launching rubber suited chemical warfare battalions deep into the European hinterlands. Just look at their homo president who by all accounts loves nothing more than bare chested bear rides. Of course he is always fondling his own missile while bragging about how fast and how high its war head will rise and how big the explosion will be, which I personally find disgusting. There are also depraved rumors about how he loves to dance on the end of an artillery barrel, but I will spare you the messy details.

    • Troll: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @ivegotrythm
  73. FB says: • Website
    @AH14

    The only ‘nonsense’ here is from you! For instance this.

    People there is a reason all of Eastern Europe prefers NATO and the EU to the new USSR.

    Which tells us you have never actually stepped foot in that part of the world and actually talked to people. If you had, you would have noticed this:

    SPECIAL REPORT: In eastern Europe, people pine for socialism–Reuters

    Across former communist eastern Europe, disenchantment with democracy is widespread and pollsters say mistrust of the elites who made people citizens of the European Union is staggering.

    Or this:

    Homesick for a Dictatorship: Majority of Eastern Germans Feel Life Better under Communism

    Today’s Germany is described as a “slave state” and a “dictatorship of capital,” and some letter writers reject Germany for being, in their opinion, too capitalist or dictatorial, and certainly not democratic.

    Other polls in Eastern Europe show similar results. In Hungary:

    A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same.

    From Pew Research in Romania:

    …41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.

    Even in relatively well-off Czechia, the nays outnumber the yays:

    Roughly 28 percent of Czechs say they were better off under the Communist regime…Only 23 percent said they had a better life now.

    Polls show: Eastern Europeans miss Communism.

    Anyone who travels to Eastern Europe will find deep dissatisfaction among the people with the EU and Nato. Everybody realizes they have been royally screwed by their comprador elites in government and media. Not unlike a lot of Americans that consider their own institutions mostly illegitimate.

    Nobody is buying the globalist bologna that you are trying to sell here. Nobody in East Germany, or the Western part for that matter, is going to take up a rifle and march on Russia because hooknose Blinken wants them to.

    Even fewer in Hungary and other countries in the region. A great many of the folks there look over to Russia and see a country moving in the right direction. Many others vote with their feet and immigrate to Russia…12 million immigrants, the second-highest immigration population in the world.

  74. they ABSOLUTELY are involved with the great reset agenda, and they are not the good guys afterall.

    There certainly seems to be mounting evidence towards that view, Steven.

    One of the prime factors in any leader is Integrity.
    Leaders must be honest to gain respect … OK of necessity there have to be aspects of policy that cannot be transparently obvious to everyone …

    But —

    1) why for example is Israel apparently allowed to attack Syria with impunity ? What is Russia there for but to prevent this and American thieves stealing oil ?
    Is their presence there little more than theater ?

    2) Putin’s public persona is Orthodox Christian. The ROC has declared Tsar Nikolai II and family to be “Saints/Martyrs” therefore worthy of public veneration. Indeed this is the case widely over Russia (and beyond) with statues/memorials going up all over Russia. See short vdo, one of very many in regard to Romanov family.

    How does an Orthodox Christian and prominent person publically disrespect Tsar Nicholas and retain credibility ? This source seems credible, sad to say …

    During his presidency, Vladimir Putin has spoken negatively about Nicholas II on more than one occasion, describing his role as a ruler “erroneous” and “absurd”.

    https://tsarnicholas.org/2021/03/15/putins-negative-assessment-of-nicholas-ii/

    Just to restate — I am hoping that you are wrong and that my growing doubts about Vladimir Putin are unfounded, but …

  75. Why is it that most of the “American” anti-Russian hawks wear small hats?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  76. @Kali

    His discussion of the demographic crisis/challenges facing Russia, and his obvious support for the family unit in order to address that challenge set him appart from the Internationalists/Money Changers of the post-communist era, who would destroy the family entirely, and make themselves the arbitors of depopulation and of future invitro reproduction.

    I have noticed that Russia has taken some steps to combat globohomo, and that is good. Nevertheless, Russia actually has a birth rate BELOW replacement, and similar to much of the west. I’m not saying Putin and Russia are ALL bad; Putin is a skilled speaker and does seem to care about his people. But I think people on this sight overlook many worrying, or even DAMNING features of Russian policy. The holocaust denial laws, Moscow health passes, lockdowns, vaccine push, UBI, etc are central to the Reset.

    Of course I could be wrong, and merely wishful thinking, but I see no other cause for hope on the horrison. Therefore Putin gets my support and my endorsement.

    You certainly seem to be able to write well, and consider complicated topics. However, I would caution you against “Hopium”. The oligarchs know that many of us are DISGUSTED by the west, and it is to their advantage to corral us into supporting the East since it is the (alleged) adversary of Washington. In reality, the both share too much common ground for comfort, and are both compromised and authoritarian.

    I’m sure we agree on alot, and it really comes down to a matter of emphasis. I think that while Putin does some good, his compliance with the NWO outweights it. Others may have a slightly different balance, which is certainly understandable. Is he a puppet who is playing us? or is he a patriot who is trying to chip away at the corrupt order without having it blow up in his face? Is the jury still out on this one? interesting questions, for sure.

    Thanks for the engaging discussion

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
    , @Kali
  77. FB says: • Website
    @RJ Macready

    Space and technology fascinates me immensely.

    The Russians on the other hand were doing it for nationalistic and political reasons. And this is why despite having a headstart, despite putting a man in space first, they faltered.

    Maybe you should actually do a little reading if you like the subject so much?

    The first Briton in space flew to a Russian space station aboard a Russian spacecraft. So did the first German and the first Frenchman.

    Also the first Pole, the first Czech, the first Hungarian, the first Bulgarian, the first Vietnamese, the first Cuban, the first Mongolian, the first Indian, the first Syrian, the first Afghani, and the first Austrian.

    InterKosmos Program

    Those ‘selfish’ Russians, eh? And they are still bumbling along?

    Which is why the US for the last two decades has been buying advanced Russian engines which the Defense Department uses for all their mission-critical launches, including every one of those high-profile Nasa missions to mars in recent years, including the rover and drone that is there now.

    [The much hyped SpaceX has been chosen a grand total of three times for Defense Department launches, compared to nearly 90 for the Russian engines, and none of the mars missions, despite a lot of mars talk from Elon Musk.]

    Not to mention the international space station [which btw should be called Mir 2, since it is in fact a Russian space station with a few American add-on modules that have nothing to do with the core space station functions of navigation, guidance and propulsion, all of which are handled by the Russian Mir 2 segment].

    Or the fact that even getting to the ISS for the last 10 years the Americans have had to buy seats on Russian aircraft.

    The fact is that the US is very far behind Russia in space technology, and has some very big gaps in basic technology, like high performance engines, which they have never been able to master. I just posted an overview of the early space race in another comment a couple of days ago.

    As for ‘winning’ the moon race with the Apollo program, I certainly hope that is how it actually was. As an aerospace engineer myself, I know that the space game works mostly on the honor system where you can’t really ‘check’ to see if the other guy is telling the truth, unless you go there yourself.

    I have only one thing that that I can’t explain about the Apollo program, and that is that famous Apollo 11 press conference with Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins. Did these unhappy guys really land on the moon…or did the moon land on them?

    I especially like Armstrong at the 55 minute mark. ‘The beginning of a new age.’

  78. Rahan says:

    It just occurred to me the other day–over the last 2 years both President Putin and Chairman Xi got their parliaments to vote them the ability to extend their rule as long as needed, for the foreseeable future.

    Question. Did they both do it because:
    a) they be evil Asiatic dictators, or
    b) they both realized something big is coming from globohomo and started preparing

    If b), then is what we are seeing now the events Putin and Xi began preparing for awhile back, or is all this just the very start of the shitshow Putin and Xi started getting ready for?

    Question 2. Aside from settling into their thrones at more or less the same time, Putin and Xi also began hoarding gold very seriously at the same time.

    Russia gold

    China gold

    Why would they do that?

    Could we say that the simultaneous hoarding of gold and simultaneous extension of their authority as leaders are reflections of information they received?

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  79. G J T says:
    @Carlos22

    No country has put a person on the moon or in “space.”

  80. @BT

    The State of California alone has twice the GDP of Russia.

    Yeah, but look at the state of the State of California, especially post-COVID California. Cali represents those shiny veeners, botox, and platic surgery people like Californians get when their actual physical reality is in a state of decay and decline.

    Silly-Con valley is moving to Austin. Hollywood is dwindling as theatres stay shuttered and actors are replaced with CGI characters, and principle huge markets like China and India look inward for content with people who look like them (do you think any Captain America, especially a black one, plays well in China these days?). Farming is increasingly under pressure from environmentalists. The state suffers increasing bouts of rolling electric blackouts under the perfect storm of ubiquitous air conditioning, electric cars, shuttering of power generation, and precautionary shutdowns of power lines to prevent them igniting undergrowth that environmentalists refuse to allow to be removed.

    Pretty much every industry that makes up the GDP of California, aside from defence manufacturing perhaps, is in a serious state of decline as you and I type away here. Oh, and Russia has a first-strike or retaliatory capability, while California is not only under invasion, but is actually underwriting it. To paraphrase The Pretenders, Hey, ho way to go Sacramento.

  81. Mefobills says:
    @Chris Moore

    Another way of thinking about it is Atlantacism is a fiat currency Ponzi scheme backed by hollowed out industrial economy, tech, media propaganda, and a lot of firepower. Jews have their hooks deeply into media propaganda and the big banks that maintain the Ponzi scheme.

    Nobody can accuse me of going easy on our (((friends))). But, let’s face it, the usury, rent-taking, and self-aggrandizing in-group behavior of our friends has metastasized and spread to other groups, including judeo-christians, and athiests alike.

    All money is fiat, and is a function of the law. Even the 2000 year gold coin era was fiat money. As soon as the coin got the King’s stamp, said coin became legal fiat.

    The question is always “who issues the money” and “for what purpose.” It is better to think of it as Sovereign money vs private money. National Socialism is impossible with private “international” money.

    The merchant class over 4000 years ago, were standing outside of city-states, and demanding the gates be torn down. Our aiparu (((friends))) have long been merchants, and secretly made usurious gains on their donkey caravan routes, trading metal money and goods, while taking sordid gains through silver/gold exchange rates.

    Even if all the Jews suddenly disappeared, there would still be hard work ahead reprogramming brain-washed normies.

  82. Notsofast says:
    @AH14

    if what you say is true why is russia in syria with iran and hezbollah supporting assad?

  83. @FB

    Good to see you back commenting, FB. This site needs a cutting mind and wit. All the best.

    • Thanks: FB
  84. Mikael_ says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    If you don’t speak Russian, why don’t you peruse the official English translation at the link Pepe provided http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/65418

    (If you don’t trust the official translation to say the same as the original, you can also fetch the original Russian there and run it through Google Translate, piecewise.)

    I have come to other conclusions than you, regarding Russia. How you jump at supposed [Russian] UBI looks more like a psychological defense mechanism: “see, it’s as bad over there.”

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  85. Schuetze says:
    @FB

    Who knows? FB knows. The self-declared Mr. Know-it-all about Eastern Europe. He knows what everyone thinks there, and that is that things were far better for everyone under communism. That is why Western Germany, Switzerland and Austria are chock full of Ossies who had to escape the devastated Eastern German economy that could produce absolutely nothing that could compete with West Germany. Ooops, I forgot the one export that the Ossies managed to sell to the Wessies: Angela Merkel. Now, 30 years after the Wende, West Germany is almost as big a shit hole as East Germany ever was. It never would have been possible without reunification!

    Note to Wessies: Forget about ever ending your Solidaritätszuschlag (solidarity tax). I know, I know, the Ossies had it so good back then that even after 30 years they still cannot carry their own weight. Just consider it to be the same kind of tribute you have to pay to the jews in Israel. Ossies are parasites too, and parasites have feelings!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  86. Mefobills says:
    @Irish Savant

    Why is it that most of the “American” anti-Russian hawks wear small hats?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

    This is the only true statement from Wikipedia

    Proponents of the act sought to establish a distinct American identity by preserving its ethnic homogeneity.[13][14] Reed told the Senate that earlier legislation “disregards entirely those of us who are interested in keeping American stock up to the highest standard—that is, the people who were born here.”[15] He believed that immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe, most of whom were Catholics or Jews, arrived sick and starving, were less capable of contributing to the American economy,

    The rest of it is blathering about Asian immigrants, of which there were practically none during this time period. Many of the Jews pretended to be Catholics, as it is ok – even honorable, to lie as the Kol-Niedre gives sanction.

    The issue was that Eastern European Jews from Polish Shtetls, and Pale of Settlement were becoming a real problem, and were trying to Bolshevize the U.S. Hence the immigration cut-off.

    The descendants of this immigration cohort settled in New York (Jew York) and Chicago. Obama’s handlers were Chicago Jews like Rham Emanuel, and money was supplied by the Pritzker family.

    The Jew looks backward and harbors grievances, hence subsequent generations of Jews harbor grievances.

    Pale of Settlement Jews hear the hoof-beats of Cossacks in their fevered imaginations.
    Jewish hind-brain has fevers, even while safely cocooned and parasitizing on Americans. Ukraine is where the Pale was located.

  87. @Zarathustra

    Remember the prophecy: The stupid will inherit the world!

    Wise people store up knowledge,
    But the mouth of the foolish is near destruction.
    Prov. 10:14 NKJV

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  88. Malla says:
    @BT

    You are an idiot monkey who wants to spread globo homo culture around the world and you cannot stand it that Russia and China (as well as NK and Iran) wont buy your Whore of Babylon bullshit.

  89. annamaria says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    You are obviously very irritated by the Russian Federation position and by her recovery from the Harvard Boys/Bill Browder’s brothelish rules.
    It is truly amusing how you try to expose Russian “amorality,” a la the “righteous” opportunist Mr. Eliot Higgins (former seller of ladies’ underwear), the rabidly Russophobic “Masha” Gessen, and other Ann Appleboums trained and paid by the “Integrity Initiative.” https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Integrity_Initiative
    Here for you something to ponder on the current state of affairs in the US: https://turcopolier.com/kim-foxx/

    During her [Chicago State’s Attorney Kim Foxx] first year as one of Chicago’s top prosecutors, she dropped charges against nearly 30% of felony defendants. The prosecutors are funded by a Geoge Soros-backed foundation called the Justice and Public Safety PAC, directed by Whitney Tymas.

    https://turcopolier.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Kim-Foxx-696×696-1.jpg

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  90. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Mefobills

    The question is always “who issues the money” and “for what purpose.” It is better to think of it as Sovereign money vs private money. National Socialism is impossible with private “international” money.

    But, let’s face it, the usury, rent-taking, and self-aggrandizing in-group behavior of our friends has metastasized and spread to other groups, including judeo-christians, and athiests alike.

    And not coincidentally, the one ideology they all support is Zionism. And parasitically co-opting “private money” that is a function of the public-built economy is how the “Jews” have transformed sick and corrupt sects of the public into international Zionists — which is their signal that they’re on board the public gouging and racketeering, from right to left and snow white to coal black.

    Zero members of Congress oppose the “Jews,” and precious few oppose the “Jewish” gang hideout known as Israel. They’re all signaling their international Zionist bona-fides.

    But they’re not really “Jews” in the Moses sense. They’re the heirs of the Hebrews targeted by Moses.

  91. annamaria says:
    @Observator

    Give due to Holobiz’ Grand Propagandist:

    Ilya Ehrenberg [born in Kiev to a Lithuanian-Jewish family] was the war propagandist and war provocateur who invented the 6 million number, the bars of soap, the lampshades…all admitted hoaxes…

    His words are quoted below … Of course all of this is in accordance with the Talmud. In fact, he [Ehrenburg] left his memoirs to Israel. These words were meant to encourage the Judeo-Bolsheviks to savage European civilians:

    “Kill! Kill! In the German race, there is nothing but evil; not one among the living, not one among the yet unborn but is evil! …Use force and break the racial pride of these German women. Take them as your lawful booty. Kill!”

    Ehrenburg has never been charged with a war crime.

    • Thanks: Kali, Joe Levantine
  92. @Mikael_

    If you don’t speak Russian, why don’t you peruse the official English translation at the link Pepe provided http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/65418

    (If you don’t trust the official translation to say the same as the original, you can also fetch the original Russian there and run it through Google Translate, piecewise.)

    All of us are commenting on the article as written by Pepe. He may be distorting some things, but the gist of what he is saying I have seen before even on RT and the saker, etc.

    I have come to other conclusions than you, regarding Russia. How you jump at supposed [Russian] UBI looks more like a psychological defense mechanism: “see, it’s as bad over there.”

    I wish Russia really was free, good, and against the NWO, and I used to actually think that was mostly true. Please read my post #76 which goes into more detail. Although it is true that Putin has done some good things, it is FACT that many things are bad over there, as I have listed above. Health passes in Moscow, lockdowns, holocaust denial laws, etc. the list goes on an on, and looks DISTURBINGLY similar to the global reset agenda.

    Don’t assume that I am against you because I have a nuanced take on this issue.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  93. BorisMay says:

    How is it that such bitter enemies, the US and Russia are able to fully cooperate running, manning and resupplying the International Space Station?

    Clearly all this angst is a charade to help cloak The Great Reset.

    If Putin is promoting a universal basic income then he is in bed with Bill Gates, Claus Schwab and the ultimate facilitator Nathan Rothschild.

    • Replies: @Kali
  94. Alfred says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Electronic health passes for Moscow, censorship, UBI, quazi mandatory vaccines, etc. These are all parts of the great reset agenda, and Russia is going along with every one of them.

    Russia and China have a simple choice. Go along with the fantasies of the West, or the USA will start a war against you.

    The Russians, to my knowledge, have never accused the USA of lying to its own people. Putin is responsible for the people of Russia only. Xi Jinping is responsible for the people of China only. They are practicing “non-interference” in the domestic affairs of the USA and other countries.

    There are plenty of examples where the Russians (and the Soviets) kept quiet so as not to provoke the Americans:

    1- The non entry into space of Alan Shepard – his vehicle traveled around 250 miles.
    2- The fake moon landings. The Soviets returned the Apollo 13 capsule to the Americans in Murmansk.
    3- The true perpetrators of 9/11.
    4- The false role attributed to CO2.
    5- The Renewable Energy falsehoods.
    6- The Global warming scam.
    7- The existence of a Covid-19 virus.
    8- The necessity for lockdowns.
    9- The efficacity of masks.
    10- The need to close borders.
    11- The effectiveness of the fake PCR test.

    I am sure there are many more. Please note that by going along with some of these things, they have helped the elites of the West destroy their own economies – at a minimal cost to the Russian and Chinese economies.

    The sad fact is that if Putin did not go along with the virus hysteria, the American-controlled media inside Russia would have lambasted him. A lot of Russians would have been convinced that their own government cares less for them than governments in the West care for their own citizens.

    Below is the front page of today’s Moscow Times. It is Dutch-owned and the editors are American. They claim that 110,000 people in Russia died of Covid – one in 1300 people. And how many of them were over the age at which most Russians die? How many had multiple health problems?

    Big deal! Of course, I can say that but Putin cannot. It is OK for Biden to spout nonsense, but Putin cannot do that. 🙂

  95. @Ray Caruso

    Exactly right. It doesn’t help my family when GDP “increases” due to our landlord overcharging us for rent and our doctors and dentists raping us for their services.

    Also, whether gross domestic product, gross private product, or other alleged measure of national well-being, any “average” household income or household wealth is a useless and misleading gauge. The medians tell us much more about how average people, and most people, actually live.

    • Agree: Ray Caruso
  96. annamaria says:
    @AH14

    Your disinformation is of poor quality because it is easy to debunk. For instance, Israelis were participants in the 2008 Georgia debacle on the side of the attackers.

    The Israelis should be proud of themselves for the Israeli training and education received by the Georgian soldiers,” said Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili

    “Yakobashvili was born into a Georgian Jewish family in Tbilisi.”
    As for the Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine), you pretend that you were asleep through the “most blatant coup d’etat” run by the State Dept.
    Your showy mention of the Bard was in vain.

  97. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @AH14

    China has retained its unique culture, underpinned by philosophies of virtue and honour, for milenia, and I dare say have used their experiences of “jew culture” over the last few hundred years to know the enemy of themselves, and of mankind/”goyim”
    Sure ((the tribe)) will have its beady eye on China as their next sacrifice to their chosen god. And faced without any alternative China might even capitulate.
    But their IS and alternative. One that both China and Russia, amongst many others, seem now to be pursuing.

    Lau Tzu.
    Kong Fuzi (Confucius).
    Sun Tzu.

    These wise men left a great legacy behind, which, despite much turbulence along the way, remains with us all… but mostly with China.

    These antient people are easily capable of out manouvering the evil “jewish empire”, including if that means working in partnership with concievably the greatest enemy of that tribe, residing in the former USSR.
    You can bet Vladamir Putin, alongside huge swathes of the Russian people, know their bloody history better than you, and most of us here. I know how I feel about the astonishing evils they visit on the world. I dare say if I was Russian I’d feel stronger still.

    The Russian Federation isn’t being “dismantled”quite so much as the United States are being ripped appart… or quite so fast!

    The only way the US can save (and I use the term loosely) itself now is by agreeing to engage in a kenetic war of attrition agaist the (concievably) mortal enemy of “Organised Jewry”, the Mighty Russia.

    But Russia and China, alongside many various partners, seem well prepared to engage them on every front.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  98. Escher says:
    @BT

    It is a good question: Who will succeed Putin?

  99. I will try to use very simple English in my comments so that everyone can easily understand what I am trying to say. So here goes…

    I have great respect for Vladimir Putin. I have NO respect for 99-1/2% of the brain-dead politicians in MY country and the “leaders” of the large network of NGOs (non-governmental organizations) that are feeding off of the American taxpayer, with the help of the Jewish and non-Jewish owned banking and financial interests.

    I firmly believe that Mr. Putin is trying his best to make things better for the average Russian citizen, unlike the politicians and “leaders” in MY country only trying to make things better for themselves.

    The United States has become a bankrupt, washed-up, third-rate Banana Republic, which insists on
    dragging all others down to its level, thanks to “The System.” As the saying goes, it is very difficult to not know something, when your paycheck is dependent on you not knowing it.

    If all of the American politicians and “leaders” used one simple “rule” in guiding their actions – “What would my mother think of this?” – 99% of the world’s problems would not exist!

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  100. @Mefobills

    Great except some of Reed’s statements. When my ancestors arrived in the USA from Europe, including southern and eastern Europe, they were neither sick nor starving. What they were was honest, hardworking, godly poor people with gratitude and affection for the country that admitted them — and they have proven their worth and loyalty many times over.

    Contrary to ignorant unfounded statements by superior-feeling ugly big-eared no-cuisine finance-worshipping WASPs from shitty rainy heavily-faggotized little islands. But I mean that in a good Christian way.

    People who agree with that dipshit about southern and eastern european Americans should try reclaiming any sizeable part of our country without us. There are tens of millions of loyal, productive, trustworthy non-globalist Americans with some Slavic, Italian, or Greek genes and heritage. It’s rather shortsighted and stupid for high-and-mighty WASPs to insult us when they have zero chance without us in practical terms.

    Reed and his modern ilk can kiss my proud Italian/Greek/Germanic/Slavic white American ass. But we’ll still teach our children to bear arms in defense of those arrogant ill-informed pricks, their families, their neighborhoods, and our nation.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  101. Schuetze says:
    @Alfred

    I don’t buy it Alfred. Putin takes the planet to the brink of nuclear war, shuts down airspace over the black sea, and starts a blockade of the Bosphorus, yet cannot risk exposing the climate hoax, covid hoax or 9/11? All these actions push the agenda of the secret elites, including the war hysteria.

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/15/putin-closes-off-access-to-black-sea-after-biden-blinks/

    http://uawire.org/russia-closes-airspace-over-crimea-and-black-sea

    • Disagree: Biff
    • Troll: ivegotrythm
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  102. @AH14

    (…)They tried to prove their bonafides to the Jews by invading Ukraine with the intention of handing it over to them but the Ukrainians soundly thrashed with modest American help.(…)

    Yes, those Moskals were soundly thrashed at Ilovaisk, Saur Mogila, Debaltsevo…

    You chochol is showing, AH14.

    As for the rest of hysterical denials from your friends, Shuetze and stevenonemaker…
    Think of what will come after V.V.Putin finally tires of his burdens and passes the direction to a Brezhnevist like Shoigu, you wont like that, trust me.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Anon
  103. @stevennonemaker88

    You are great man! (lol) Russia needs Crimea and Donbas only temporary. And Russia certain does not need Europe. All those will perish in time because of Global warming.

    • LOL: Schuetze
  104. Jazman says:
    @FB

    Elon Musk isn’t a rocket-scientist or inventor. He is just a good businessmen and marketeer. He draws on primitive and cheap technologies and concepts of 1970s-80s, puts on them current electronics, gives them beautiful names (Merlin, Falcon, Dragon etc.) and pretends he’s created something really new and great. In effect, he exists only because American money bags have never been satisfied with NASA’s being a governmental agency. They want to have it privatized, sooner or later in the future, and Musk is supposed to “prove” to the public (gradually, of course) that private way is more effective. So, one day, NASA will (probably premeditatively) fail , or it’ll be “proven” by media that it failed, with some (or several) of its projects, and by that time, the public will have been ideologically ready to give it over into more “effective” private hands. Something similar to the phenomenon of private military companies. Privatization of profits and socialization of costs (Musk receives big governmental subsidies). The situation will be facilitated by the circumstance that (IMHO) NASA’s higher officials are totally conducive into the idea.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  105. @stevennonemaker88

    have you considered that putin (& xi for that)are aware that they, along with iran, were biowarfare targets? recall, possibly 3 years ago now, putin querying why america was taking blood samples from russians. consider, it may be possible that putin takes covid seriously b/c he knows something about ft detrick we don’t–it also offers some explanation as to why sputnik V was ready to launch so smoothly & effectively.

    • Thanks: stevennonemaker88
  106. @Schuetze

    Is it part of your job description to watch May Day parades?

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  107. Levtraro says:
    @Schuetze

    I think that Alfred is saying that Putin is playing along with the USA on some things that mostly affect the USA and her western allies and to avoid war (as did the Soviets) whilst staying independent and strong on things that really matter to Russia.

    • Agree: Alfred
  108. @Kali

    I believe Sun-tzu says intelligence is the most important attribute of the commander.

    Based on brainpower alone, the West is already (badly) defeated in its next war (with Russia or China). You can recognize a born loser by how eager he is to fight. Which means a terrible reckoning is coming for the (((West))).

    • Agree: Kali
  109. @Brad Anbro

    Thanks for sharing. Please feel free to post more often as you appear to possess elementary common sense, a quality far too rare these days in deliberately dumbed-down and cognitively dissonant Americans.

    Sorry to use $50 words, but in my experience one of those can be worth ten $10 words, thus not cluttering up the message.

  110. @SeekerofthePresence

    Destruction is coming in the form of Global warming. This world as it is now is going to pass soon.
    Rebirth of humanity will be conflict free. We have to worry only about WW3 which will be end of humans on this planet.
    ………………………………………………………..
    I will explain later.

    • LOL: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Alfred
  111. profnasty says:
    @Observator

    N.Korea says US dropped bio-weapon typhus fleas in 1950. There are photos to back this up. Logically US deliberately introduced typhus to Germany in ’44. It’s not a long stretch. //Dead Jews, by Jews. Ain’t it grand?

  112. @Alfred

    Global warming is not a scam. It is real and it will be devastating. 95% of humanity will die because of it.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………
    I will explain later.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • LOL: Schuetze
  113. @annamaria

    You are obviously very irritated by the Russian Federation …

    It is truly amusing how you try to expose Russian “amorality,” a la the “righteous” opportunist Mr. Eliot Higgins (former seller of ladies’ underwear),

    ???

    A very bizarre post, dear lady.
    Perhaps it’s the wrong time of the month ?
    It’s not the drink, is it ? I do hope it’s not that.

    You mention Bill Browder. Are you a friend of this finance rat ?
    Here’s a movie abt him made by Andrei Nekrasov. AN was taken in by Browder’s heart-breaking story and wanted to help him by making a docu about his supposed murdered “lawyer” Sergei Magnitsky … however as investigations proceeded AN discovered a totally different set of events had occurred …


    PS Please re-read the post you answered with this gibberish …

    • LOL: Schuetze
  114. profnasty says:
    @Zarathustra

    Jews declared war on Whites in 1916.
    Or, 0033.
    But was Amalek White?
    knowmorenews.org

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  115. anon[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mefobills

    What to make of this story and some of the comments

    “Minutes before Trump left office, millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life
    Why was an obscure Florida company managing a huge swath of the Internet? The shift is the handiwork of an elite Pentagon unit that reports directly to the secretary of defense.

    After decades of not using a huge chunk of the Internet, the Pentagon has given control of millions of computer addresses to a previously unknown company in an effort to identify possible cyber vulnerabilities and threatsBy Craig Timberg and Paul Sonne” WaPo.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/24/pentagon-internet-address-mystery/

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  116. Schuetze says:
    @FB

    “Even fewer in Hungary and other countries in the region. A great many of the folks there look over to Russia and see a country moving in the right direction.”

    All those Eastern European countries like Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Czechia and Slovakia love, love, love Russia and of course communism.

    EU’s Baltic states expel four Russian diplomats in solidarity with Prague

    The Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania said Friday they were expelling a total of four Russian diplomats in solidarity with the Czech Republic, which is involved in a spat with Moscow.

    The Czech government has accused Russian secret services of being behind a fatal explosion at an arms depot in eastern Czech Republic in 2014.

    Prague has expelled 18 Russian diplomats over the allegations and is planning to eject dozens more diplomats and embassy staff in a move that is expected to bring retaliation from Moscow.

    Russia has expelled 20 Czech diplomats from Moscow so far, decimating the embassy’s workforce.

    “The decision shows our solidarity with our ally after an unprecedented and dangerous incident in the Czech Republic,” Lithuania’s foreign ministry said, announcing the expulsion of two Russians.

    Lithuania also signalled its readiness to help the Czech embassy in Moscow carry out its functions following the expulsion of the Czech diplomats.

    Latvian Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics announced the expulsion of a Russian diplomat, saying: “Latvia will not tolerate subversive activities on its soil or that of its partners and allies.”

    Estonia’s foreign ministry said the explosion near the Czech village of Vrbetice showed “Russia’s action violates international law, undermines European security & stability and is unacceptable”.

    Estonia is also expelling one Russian diplomat.

    Slovakia, which formed a single country with the Czech Republic until 1993, said on Thursday it would expel three Russian diplomats in solidarity with Prague and because of information received from its intelligence services.”

    What a pompous buffoon FB is.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  117. Alfred says:
    @Zarathustra

    I will explain later

    If you are waiting for the earth to warm up, it will be a long wait – 2050 according to those who have noticed that big bright object in the sky. 🙂

    Dr Legates said: “President Trump realized the importance of space weather, and particularly of the Sun, in influencing global climate. It was he who signed the October 2020 ProSwift Act into law to assist in studying and forecasting space weather. Given the history of previous periods of comparative solar activity, the weather may get a little cooler between now and 2050. If we are right, our electricity grids and our satellites should be safe until then.”

    New Paper uses AI to Predict the Sunspot Cycles: Low Solar Activity until 2050

    • LOL: Schuetze
    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Zarathustra
    , @The Alarmist
  118. @Schuetze

    Yes, I remain amazed at the quantity of slobbering adulation I read on several comment boards about Putin. Too many Americans are always looking for a savior (gee, I wonder why – programming much?)

    Clearly, he’s a very smart and strategic guy but, I don’t trust him any more than I do any other world leader — which is to say: not at all.

    All that warm and fuzzy ‘concern’ mentioned in the third paragraph of the article should have sent antennas up. Sounds an awful lot like the socialist-type policies being fronted here. Putin has also appeared exceedingly comfortable with Netanyahu in a way that makes a careful observer cringe.

  119. @Alfred

    Russia and China have a simple choice. Go along with the fantasies of the West, or the USA will start a war against you.

    You are speaking as if war would be a forgone conclusion. The US has never attacked a serious rival, only nations that were completely outmatched. Assuming that the US would attack both these countries is quite unrealistic.

    The sad fact is that if Putin did not go along with the virus hysteria, the American-controlled media inside Russia would have lambasted him. A lot of Russians would have been convinced that their own government cares less for them than governments in the West care for their own citizens.

    I think you have a good point here. But by the same token, he would probably have far more support from hard line Russian nationalists, and half the global population that sees the corona hysteria is WAY over exaggerated, if he exposed it.

    I get the idea that Putin is one man and is metaphorically surrounded by wolves. It is certainly possible he goes along with some things in an effort to pick his battles, and chip away at the corrupt system. Nevertheless, I find that on the balance, he supports far too much of the globalist agenda, even at home in Russia. If he was just trying to be diplomatic, he could be much more assertive while avoiding his outright support of the great reset. He will be demonized by the west either way, and I think that is part of the mostly fake East/west dilemma.

    I agree with you that Putin is doing some good and perhaps thinking strategically, and as I mentioned in comment #76, it comes down to a matter of emphasis.

  120. Rdm says:
    @RJ Macready

    Fake till you make it.

    Russians were faking Gagarin first. The collusion began after Moon rocks samples authentication. Since we can now send man to the low Earth orbit, it seems Russian MIGHT have actually sent Gagarin to the space first.

    The same goes for Moon. But since it’s more impossible to send man to the moon to this day, it’s still faked and it actually is.

  121. Schuetze says:
    @The Real World

    Putin is a puppet on a string, just like Trump. The really sad truth is that the Russophiles here at UR are just as fanatical about Putin as the Magatards were about Trump, and just as stupid.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  122. Schuetze says:
    @ivegotrythm

    I remember when my hormones kicked in at about age 13. That coincided with the hebrew victory over Christian anti-pornography legislation. Ironically the Heebs had snuck their first full breast pornography past the censors using the back drop of the WWII “Nazi Death Camps”. About a decade later there were full breasted and often naked cover girls at the check out of every 711 and convenience store in California. As a young teenager I could not help but stare at these covers and lust after these beautiful women.

    For normal men, military hardware has a similar effect. Tanks, jets, destroyers, aircraft carriers, machine guns have always interested me nearly as much as naked playboy models. As I grew up and began to mature I realized that I had to resist certain urges and I taught myself not to obsess over photos of naked women.

    Unfortunately for the entire planet, Russians have never been able to wean themselves from military porn. Every year Russia puts on the worlds biggest pole dance, when all their favorite pornographic military hardware is put on parade in front of the Kremlin, like a bunch of Russian hookers strutting for a few rubles. Russian men, and women, still have not figured out that just like obsessing over photographs of young naked women is not healthy, so obsessing over planet destroying rockets and waves of steam rolling armor is also not healthy.

    As a result, just as the entire planet is being threatened by a wave of mind and culture destroying jewish pornography, so is the entire planet being threatened by the Russian lust for ever more and bigger rockets, tanks and artillery. May 1 is the most important day of the year for Russia, not only does it have its warmonger military hardware orgy, it gets to relive all the satanic ritual blood baths that they have committed against their neighbors over the centuries.

  123. Mefobills says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Sorry. No offense meant.

    The immigration cut off did have wasp xenophobia. All the eastern Europeans have been fine immigrants.

    The small hats not so much.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  124. @Schuetze

    Great comment! Russia is every bit as interested in keeping the official narrative of ww2 going as the west is.

  125. @stevennonemaker88

    Some here may be getting closer to the mystery, than say, @Mikael who accuses you that

    I have come to other conclusions than you, regarding Russia. How you jump at supposed [Russian] UBI looks more like a psychological defense mechanism: “see, it’s as bad over there.”

    And without a solution, you answered https://www.unz.com/pescobar/putin-rewrites-the-law-of-the-geopolitical-jungle/#comment-4613802

    . . .admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them. Hebrews 11:13
    https://www.bible.com/bible/111/HEB.11.13-16.NIV

    ALL men betray. Run until you can’t run any more, that is the beginning of knowledge.

    [MORE]

    It might help to know the identity of the real Hebrews of whom the apostle Paul wrote the book of Hebrews. Mind you, Paul was not writitng about (((Jews)))–whom he identified as wanting to kill him. https://biblehub.com/acts/26-21.htm

    To reveal the mystery of the lost Hebrew tribes, first eliminate the counterfeit, namely who they are not. And If “Jews” are not “Hebrews” –then WHO are the people who constituted the original nation of Israel ?

    This is why the bible five-hundred years after the last of the real Hebrews were scattered to the wind, quotes a Hebrew from the tribe of Judah (also known as the Son of God), as telling the “Jews” who were inhabiting Jerusalem at that time, “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” Sound familiar ? https://biblehub.com/john/8-44.htm

    That is why He told His disciples, “But the tenants said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.’ ” https://biblehub.com/mark/12-7.htm

    Maybe your local zionist wolf preacher should teach you what the bible actually says, instead of feeding you smooth words of hopium and jews = Israel. God loves the real nation of Israel and will protect them and give them a heavenly country of their own, which He promises to establish on this earth. Stop running in the belief that man can cure mankind, and offer Him your broken and contrite spirit, as this, He will not despise. https://biblehub.com/psalms/51-17.htm

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  126. Mefobills says:
    @anon

    “Minutes before Trump left office, millions of the Pentagon’s dormant IP addresses sprang to life
    Why was an obscure Florida company managing a huge swath of the Internet? The shift is the handiwork of an elite Pentagon unit that reports directly to the secretary of defense.

    Consider the source, it is the Washington Post. WP is owned by Bezos. Amazon is angling to be a prime contractor for distributing military goods and offering cloud services to said military.

    It might be true. All we know for sure is that MIC is in bed with finance capitalism, as they are fellow travelers. MIC needs a boogey man to keep up the gravy train, which is about $1T a year from the taxpayer. These dollars from the taxpayer then funnel into military corporations, and said corporations then use lobbyists to keep the game going. Of course most UNZ readers are aware of this destructive cycle. The minimum military is useful, anything more than the minimum is a waste, as it lowers the standard of living by diverting life energy of citizens toward things that are not used. Note that Russia continues to lower its defense spending, but is getting a lot of bang for the buck.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/defense-contractors-spent-millions-lobbying-congress-get-billions-in-new-budget

    The destructive cycle began after Wilson’s “progressive era” reforms; which were 16 and 17’th amendment and Federal Reserve Act.

    I dug through the Congressional record once, and found a Wilson’s comment. To paraphrase, he said that the halls of Whitehouse now was filled with lobbyists seeking special favors. Before his progressive era acts, the halls were empty.

    The 17’th is especially bad in that State’s Legislatures no longer send or recall their Senators to Congress. Senators in turn, must have Lobby money in order to become populists, to then receive a vote.

    The founders never intended for the Senate to become populist. Senators were to be above the political fray, and States were intended to be small countries, not vassals.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  127. @Majority of One. 9

    Vladimir Putin is the premiere statesman in the world today.

    Well said!

  128. Mefobills says:
    @Schuetze

    Universal basic income is a Rothschild ploy to set up the goyim for slavery. The Rothschild controlled central bank is also evidence that Russia is owned.

    The BIS connections to Bank of Russia has a lot of people confused. BIS recently allowed gold to be a Tier 1 asset in reserve loops of banks.

    Russia mines their own gold, buys said gold with Rubles, and then uses the gold for two things. To stuff in the reserve loop, and to have available for FX (foreign exchange).

    I suppose it is ok to announce this out loud, since globo-homo has already tried to exploit Russia with several attacks to destroy the Ruble, especially with having the Saudi’s flood the market with oil. This didn’t work as the Saudi’s soon found out that Russian floor cost for oil was lower than expected.

    Some form of gap spending, whether it be UBI or whatever, is required for good economics. Labor cannot buy their output in Finance Capitalism, so what happens over time, is that the “owners” of capital end up owning everything. Society Polarizes.

    The gap between what the price value of what labor produces, and what it can buy has been known by man, ever since Clifford Douglas and the Social Credit movement.

    There has to be debt free injection of some money into households to accommodate the gap, and no more. The gap can be calculated by monitoring the flow of prices in the economy.

    You point still stands, in that the “owners” of finance capital want to have a dumbed down population under their control. Throwing some shekels their way will keep them quiescent.

  129. Miro23 says:

    We always come back to the same crucial issue: whether Putin will be able, against all odds, to pull a combined Bismarck-Sun Tzu move and build a lasting German-Russian entente cordiale (and that’s quite far from an “alliance’). Nord Stream 2 is an essential cog in the wheel – and that’s what’s driving Washington hawks crazy.

    Nord Stream 2 is still just about surviving – despite all the US threats. The US deep state problem is 1) that Germany very much needs that gas (US liquefied “freedom” gas isn’t a realistic alternative) 2) the German public is becoming aware of CIA interference in their country/media and they don’t like it – and it’s being reflected politically.

    The Biden administration doesn’t get such a big welcome in Western Europe (apart from the UK). Boris Johnson’s administration is still wholly subservient – for example sending British warships into the Black Sea on US orders.

  130. I must say that living in the Yankee Reich’s most groveling Five Eyes stooge state, Austfailia, today is a very dispiriting experience. Our so-called ‘elites’ in politics, business and the fakestream media cancers are all quite uniformly moronic (or pretend to be) pig ignorant, thuggish, sub-fascist and loathsome. The sheer toxicity of the foaming hatred spewed at the latest ‘enemy’, whether China, Russia, Iran, Syria or what have you is indicative of psychopathic minds gripped by fear and group hysteria. I imagine that the Dachaus and other internment camps for ‘traitors’ cannot be far away. The Murdoch abomination’s thuggish inmates are already screeching ‘treachery’ at New Zealand for keeping relations with China on a somewhat polite and mutually beneficial level, while we spew sheer hatred at the Yellow Peril day after day.
    I’ve long expected this day to arrive. Starting with the US coup against Whitlam, with the connivance of local hard Right goons, the country has been driven ever further Right, led by Murdoch, Satan itself. Meanwhile, as various ‘commissions’ find, although nothing ever changes, we treat the Indigenous with exquisite cruelty and contempt, there being a racist hardcore of ten to twenty percent or so, whose votes keep the Right in power. We furthermore treat our elderly despicably, in ‘nursing homes’ bent on profiteering and racketeering, not ‘care’, institutional child abuse reached stratospheric levels, led by the ‘religious’, our environment is destroyed and desecrated everywhere, we lead the world in sabotaging climate destabilisation remediation and prevention, we join ANY genocidal US campaign, our Special Forces have been caught out committing numerous atrocities in Afghanistan, including slitting 14 year old shepherd boys’ throats etc, etc, etc. Yet our political monsters never stop squawking on about ‘our moral values’, ‘our values’ blah, blah, when abusing China with invariably false accusations. If ever a country has piled up a mountain of bad karma it’s this one.

  131. Whitey now is in a minority in California–by 2030- it will be whitey at 10% and others at 90%—only Martin Marietta and Hollywood and Pro Wrestling will don white faces.,..the coming reality.

  132. @Schuetze

    Ukronazi Russophobia, foaming red, is ever so boring.

    • Agree: Aaron Hilel
  133. @Mefobills

    It was a rhetorical question in a way but your point about the Cossacks is well taken. Which probably explains why they were targeted so mercilessly by the largely Jewish NKVD.

    • Agree: Mefobills
  134. @Schuetze

    You’re comparing a intelligent and informed leader ( Putin) with a self aggrandizing failure and buffoon? 2024 –Mike Pompeo will lead the USA when the chips are down,,,, Hunter Biden will switch sides and stand as VP—USA wll be united and John Hagee then will agree with gay marriage and Diamond Dallas Page will regain his title with the “George Floyd ICB –submission hold”. Second Amendment will be extended and NRA will issue condolence cards…by the thousands…

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  135. @Schuetze

    What’s healthier to you, military bases all over the world and involved in wars and/or starting wars everywhere? National pride a problem for you? May 1st is a huge Holiday all over the planet except here.

  136. @Alfred

    Alfred the Very Much Not Great, who insidiously infected your great, grey, greasy matter with this climate destabilisation denialism? Obviously you smell a rat about CoViD19, and there’s plenty or rodents there, as with 9/11, CoViD lockdowns, the misuse of face-masks etc, but climate destabilisation, as it is happening? Why? Is it ideological, and you just hate Greenies, or are you simply a Dunning-Krugerite bamboozled by the denialist industry’s pseudo-science and outright lies? Your descendants, if any, won’t forgive you.

    • Replies: @Kali
  137. Mefobills says:
    @Aaron Hilel

    Putin finally tires of his burdens and passes the direction to a Brezhnevist like Shoigu, you wont like that, trust me.

    Good point.

    The old Brezhnev guard is a “sixth” column, where atlantacist integrationists are the “fifth column.”

    Any criticism of Putin is valid when it comes to not suppressing the fifth column violently enough.

    I’m going to lean toward Putin’s replacement being a United Russia member, or some technocrat who has been trained as part of the 300.

    Andropov created a “management class” within the KGB; Putin was trained in how to manage cities and civilizations are part of this group.

    Putin and United Russia is scouring Russia for the “300” people he needs as feedback for monitoring the far flung Krais (frontiers), republics, and oblasts. In other words, there is a not -so secretive management class that is being created. This management class has regular meetings and does things like going mountain hiking with each other, to then create a sense of familiarity and solidarity. They are given homework, such as classics to read, and go through training.

    This network of management class people, are sent to the far flung areas, to then feedback information to the governing center.

    Mishustin is hand selected by Putin. Dmitry Medvedev was an Atlantacist integrationist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Mishustin

  138. @Mefobills

    Since you’re knowledgeable about economics I have a question for you. In a fully automated and robotised society, where a technological society is ultimately headed, wouldn’t it make sense to pay people for doing nothing? Sort of give them UBI, one equivalent to a fairly decent wage but not requiring employment. Wouldn’t such an economy be viable and ultimately desirable? This would ensure satisfying what FB asks in comment #18.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @FB
  139. Avery says:
    @Mefobills

    {“Purchase Power Parity is the better way to measure.”}

    That’s true, but even that measure does not capture the actual picture.
    For example, my understanding is that in Russia most people own their home/dwelling, free and clear. In the US the biggest expense is the house mortgage or rent we pay.
    There lots of other “costs of living” in US that are absent in other countries.

    Russians pay 13% flat tax.
    Here in the US we have Federal income tax, State income tax, county tax, city tax, sales tax, use tax, 911 tax (on phones) this tax, that tax,…..there is no end. Some States in US even tax groceries.

    There are just too many differences between societies/countries to compare by PPP.
    You have to live in a country to know.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  140. I would be more impressed with Putin, if Putin wasn’t participating in the Covid-19 scam. The profits from the Sputnik jab must make it worth Russia’s while.

    Latest mainstream scare headline, is about the flu making a massive comeback, flu bugs have been in hiding during the Covid scam, and it will be a double whammy of a new wave of post jab Covid and the worst flu season ever.

  141. @Alfred

    Solar activity introduces tiny variation into system. But there is a system that rules the temperature of our globe. Our globe will be heating up continuously.
    …………………………………………………………………..
    I will explain later..

    • Replies: @Alfred
  142. @profnasty

    Jews did not declare war on whites. All Jews want is to be the world nobility and all world population to be their servants. Jewish dream is too ambitious causes lot of pain but the result would be peace in the world. But for many reasons It is impossible to achieve. So only pain is what Jews are accomplishing,

  143. @Schuetze

    I will wipe of that smirk from your face.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  144. Skeptikal says:
    @Katerina

    I am actually getting kind of tired of Katerina, the single-note drone, her one note being “You must be an American. You poor, sad people…”

    Katerina is playing the same single note in the comment threads at The Saker blog.

    Katerina: Think of something interesting to say, for a change.

    Or maybe just get a life, wherever it is that you hang your hat and receive broadcasts of some kind from the poor sad Americans.

  145. Mefobills says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Fiscal policy (taxes) are the flip side of monetary policy. One cannot exist without the other.

    The future technological society where robots and artificial intelligence create goods and services, will cut human labor out of the production and distribution system.

    With finance capital, then said capital will own the robots and means of production, while labor will be cut out of the production system. The production system in turn distributes money.

    The way the current economy works is that goods and services make prices, prices fetch money, and money is thrown backwards into the production system. When labor gets a paycheck, it is from an employer, so business and industry are part of the distribution system for money. That is why shutting down business for Covid was stupid in the extreme; the political class have trained incompetence, making them morons.

    This idea that labor will be upgraded to “take care of the robots” and find new usefulness is whistling past the graveyard type of thinking. LEARN TO CODE! LoL

    Vast swaths of the labor pool have two digit IQ’s and are not upgradeable (unless Eugenics), but they still need to eat and consume to live.

    The only economic doctrine that can deal with the gap between production and labor is Douglas Social Credit Theory. The production system will have to be taxed, and aggregations of capital will have to be taxed with targeted fiscal policy. A VAT is not sophisticated enough to deal with the coming technological future, where AI and Robots make most goods.

    The current western political class is also not sophisticated, especially as they have been brainwashed with liberal economic orthodoxy. The elite institutions like Harvard and Yale are graduating people with trained incompetence.

    Probably someplace like China might be able to learn quickly, and adapt to the coming future, as their hierarchy is intelligent and can figure things out.

    So, the future could easily be dystopian where the means of production are owned by a few Oligarchs who then control the government. The other alternative is a government establishes control over the production system.

    I am pro-fascist by the way, as fascism is closely related to industrial capitalism, and has the power to tax away unearned income and rents, and bring corporations to heel.

    Social creditors are generally anti-government, but this is more wishful thinking, because money true nature is law, and fiscal policy to tax – is a form of force. Men with guns enforce the law.

    Gap theory will tax away aggregations and distribute it to former labor, so they can live and consume the products of the production system.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  146. @Big Ron

    You forgot the Turks, sir.

  147. @Zarathustra

    Factually Schuetze is right.

    Even though I wonder when those nations will find out they were thrown to the wolves in Yalta by the very Free West™ they so ardently admire.

    Probably not going to happen. The continued credibility of the Free West™ after Yalta and the cold war is one of the wonders of the world, on par with nostalgia for bolshevism, a murderous belief system if ever there was one.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  148. Mefobills says:
    @Avery

    There are just too many differences between societies/countries to compare by PPP.
    You have to live in a country to know.

    We probably both agree that to demean Russia as a “gas station” country is wide of the mark.

    Russia is quickly moving to autarky in most things. The western attempts to bust Russia out with sanctions, etc. has backfired, as Russia was forced to move and create its own industrial substitutes.

    Becoming food independent, and then going further to become a net exporter of food, is proof in the pudding.

    The Western elites (Atlantacists) are losing on all fronts, which is why they are striking out in all directions, like a body having spasms. What used to work, no longer works.

    • Thanks: Robjil
  149. The world is very lucky to have V. V. Putin. Think what a frightful place it would be without him.

    Except that there would probably be no human life on the planet today without him, an improvement, I guess

    • Replies: @The Soft Parade
  150. @byrresheim

    It does not matter much but my comment was addressed to his lol under my comment.
    Concerning your comment:
    All those countries yielded to Stalin by Churchill and Roosevelt were Slavic countries except Estonia Hungary, and Albania. Russia had the most human lives lost in the war so CH and R went along.
    All those countries joining EU expected that under German help their living standard will be significantly increasing, But it did not really happen. So in my opinion West should not really expect great enthusiasm in those countries for attacking Russia.
    Communism is not evil system but as it was implemented with total rigidity economy did not work and
    Economy did become stagnant.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Malla
  151. @BT

    US can inflate its GDP by increasing student tuition fees and medical costs
    Using PPP shows Russian GDP equal to Germany

    Americans are so wealthy they live in Hoovervilles and eat Foodstamps when not using private jets and yachts

    US spent $6 Trillion on wars since 2000 because money is no object when you are $28 Trillion in debt in a world with $80 Trillion GDP

  152. There are also depraved rumors about how he loves to dance on the end of an artillery barrel, but I will spare you the messy details.

    For purposes of understanding the limits of subject matter arising from cheap gin and imagination, please don’t spare us the messy details, but mind you, my interest in the personal knowledge by which you found Putin’s homosexuality, sadism and fondling of giant missiles digusting, is at best, strictly academic.

    I’ve spent time in Russia and paternal dominance there is demanded by women that turn their back to males who pander or flatter. The Me Tarzan you Jane is part of their bigger picture, which in practice negates your claim that “Russian men, and women, still have not figured out that . . . obsessing over planet destroying rockets and waves of steam rolling armor is also not healthy.” So considering your alternative, will have to go with their reputation and societal glue which to date avoids any further test of their promise for an “asymmetric” and “tough” response to an opponent, should need arise.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  153. @The Soft Parade

    you’ll have to work on your writing before your post makes ANY sense. You are throwing around bizzare statements with no context. Mikael never asked me for a “solution”… what are you even talking about?

  154. Schuetze says:
    @Zarathustra

    Hey climatard, we are still waiting for your

    “……………………………………………………………………………………………
    I will explain later.”

    Is that how you will “wipe that smirk off of my face”, or was that a threat from a communist?

    Communists are the same as warmists, they both are eager to destroy the village in order to save it.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  155. Levtraro says:
    @Mefobills

    I fundamentally disagree. The evolution of the liberal state is toward letting the masses go on their own, not to integrate them with social credit systems. The future liberal state, running with very little and very intelligent human labor, will just tell the masses to go on their own, that they are better off not living under the liberal state, and they will be right, so the masses will seggregate and live outside of the State. This will not just be consistent with liberal ideas, but will also solve the problem of excessive use of natural resources, as the seggregated masses will consume a lot less than statepeople.

    • Replies: @Kali
    , @Mefobills
  156. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Thank you too, steven.

    I do appreciate what you’re saying, and certainly, given what we each obviously know about the mechanisms of the power-play in which the world has been embroiled for the last 100 – 1,000 years (depending when we start counting), we should be cautious in our favorable appraisals of a would-be “saviour” (or “Sving Grace”, as the case may be).

    But more and more I look to the histories which were successfully kept from our/my parents (I was born in 67), and those histories shape my understanding of our current global situation.
    Are Putin and Jiping compromised, doing the bidding of the ((cabbal))? Who can know for sure?

    I think it was “mefobills” who commented earlier regarding why Russia might have every reason to take the corona-threat seriously, and so proceeded with high caution (they are dealing with an utterly depraved West after all).

    But all ofthat said, and my other comments also, I do appreciate your possition as well as your contributions to this conversation. Thank you, also, for your complimentary words regarding my own input.

    • Agree: stevennonemaker88
  157. Schuetze says:
    @Mefobills

    You have some great comments in this thread, Mefobills. I will respond to them here.

    I have never been inside the Russian Empire, so I don’t know enough to discuss what form UBI should/could take there. I am certain that what might work in Moscow or St. Petersburg will not work as well in the remote countryside, or, say, Sochi, Sevastopol or Grozny. In 2006 I travelled through the Carpathians and the Romanian countryside, and I noticed horse drawn carts loaded with old women heading out to pick up garbage along the roads in the mornings. I decided that this must be some form of welfare.

    The entire “west” has horribly lopsided demographics with a giant bulge of baby boomers “retiring”. It is clear that they rapid deterioration of retirement systems across the west will not be able to sustain these old people who are no longer contributing to society (creating wealth). With NIRP, ZIRP and financial repression the draw down of public and private retirement funds is accelerating. The Biden regime already wants to jack up tax levels to a European niveau, and this will ultimately fragment society as much as multiculturalism or the gay disco. Young wealth creating workers and entrepreneurs will not allow themselves to be turned into complete tax donkeys while remaining fountains of wealth creation.

    One big problem modern judeo-capitalism is responsible for is what you call “The gap between what the price value of what labor produces, and what it can buy“. I see this as large monopolistic corporations playing the mercantilistic game of using their monopoly and corruption power to suppress the price of their inputs. This not only happens to labor costs, but also in all raw materials that serve as inputs. This of course impoverishes the third world and deprives them of any chance to get ahead.

    One solution to this gordian demographic/judeo-capitalistic knot that is often discussed is some form of debt jubilee. I “own” several rental units and a have high debt load. This would benefit me greatly, so I tend to favor this approach. However the majority of people where I live, especially young people, have only a little consumer debt and would not benefit nearly as much. Those old Romanian women, arguably the most needy, would not benefit at all.

    Another solution discussed is hyperinflation. This would clear off the government debt, and that of people like me. Theoretically it might be possible to keep wages rising as fast as inflation, so theoretically my renters would be able to pay the rents that I would be forced to keep jacking up. But that would be unlikely, and I would end up hungry like all the other crushed middle class.

    UBI, ignoring its corrosive effect on the work ethic, could not work if it was financed through MMT or plain old money printing. It will lead to Hyperinflation. So UBI requires a high level of growth in order to finance the boomer retirements. The Climatards, like Mudbrain and Zarathustra, have put the kibosh on growth as a solution.

    This is the dilemma that the secret elites face. They demand the retention of power, yet society is programmed to implode. Their solution is clearly social credit, where only the obedient get “credits”, and where they will define the new reality. Those that refuse go along will simply be outcast and starved. This is clearly where the vaccine passports are leading. Get your vaccination or you will be outcast and not get any “credit” and left to starve. With all their robotics and AI they think that they don’t really need any independent thinkers anyway. The secret elites are clearly planning a culling.

    You write:

    “I am pro-fascist by the way, as fascism is closely related to industrial capitalism, and has the power to tax away unearned income and rents, and bring corporations to heel.”

    Your expression: “tax away unearned income and rents” is clearly a threat to me. Renting apartments can actually be a lot of work. I recently had to completely sanitize and apartment that some Hungarians had trashed and it cost me almost a year of their rent. Now that apartment is and I am showing it. Several times people have made appointments to see it and then simply not shown up. When I do get it rented out, there will be all kinds of work required to get contract accepted and the money flowing into the bank account. I also have a couple of older single women renters who are constantly complaining and requiring attention. One house I have has leaks on one side and requires expensive repairs and a new solar powered heater that must now meet modern energy usage laws (solar), thanks to idiots like Mudbrain and Zarathustra.

    Hitler basically said that if you don’t work, you don’t eat. This is what I observed in Romania, where welfare recipients were sent out to pick up garbage in the cold of winter. I do not know if Hitler would have stripped me of my rental income like you propose, but I will say that I would rather have this solution than social credit and genocide.

  158. Schuetze says:
    @GomezAdddams

    “You’re comparing a intelligent and informed leader ( Putin) with a self aggrandizing failure and buffoon?”

    Actually I was comparing the Putinazoid zombies to the Maga Trump cultists. Which cult members are more or less intelligent is certainly up for debate.

    As far as “intelligent and informed” vs. “self aggrandizing failure” goes, one important question is which one is more willing to jerk on their puppet strings and expose the puppet masters to the public. On this score they are roughly equal.

    Which one is/was a bigger threat to the puppet masters comes out roughly as a draw as well. We saw their desperation to get rid of Trump in the way they so blatantly and obviously rigged the election. With Putin it is not so clear whether he really is a threat, or merely controlled opposition. However the secret elites appeared to be willing to take the world to the edge of a nuclear holocaust in order to force Putin to cow down, so I guess we could call it a draw here too.

  159. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @BorisMay

    What if the scientific collaborations between the two are just that? Simply professionals within a field, cooperating for the betterment of their own particular interests.

    As for the UBI, you need to read the transcript of the address to know that Putin didn’t mention UBI at all, and the use of the term “universal income” was Pepes’ own interpretation/short-hand.

    One thing I can’t fit in with my own stance on this issue is the “holocaust denial” laws which look like a huge fly in the ointment from my perspective… But could it be, as suggested earlier by another commenter, that these laws are designed to project Russian (Soviet!) guilt onto Germany? Or possibly to appease the Atlantacists as a longer game is played out?
    Or am I simply rationalising infavour of my own wishful thinking?

    I guess we’ll all find out for sure in due course.

  160. Smith says:
    @Schuetze

    Inflation and hyperinflation is a thing due to no price control.

    It seems the West can control everything, except prices, ohhhh, the free market cannot be touched. Oh, and banks are holy entities that cannot be controlled, they can print magic paper and you have to borrow from them, but the state cannot print on its own.

    The problem in the USA is a policy problems, fueled by people who really have in their head that currency/money actually means something sacred that you cannot touch.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  161. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Oh my.
    From “global warming” to “climate change” to “climate destabalisation“. (Too funny! lol)
    All caused by human-made PLANT FOOD of course., and nothing at all to do with natural cycles of the Earth, the Sun or the galaxy itself… because “the science”.
    And, of course, requiring a political/economic solution in the form of the”green new deal” and agendas 21/30 and…. da-da-dahhhh…. The Great Reset!
    And let’s not forget to lable anyone who disagrees, no matter how nuanced their reasoning, a denier” because, well, it saves time… and brain-cells.

    (Off topic and slightly trollish, I know, but I couldn’t resist.)

    • Thanks: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  162. Schuetze says:
    @The Soft Parade

    What a word salad! I believe what you are saying is that feminists and lesbians have to support Russian militarism in order to maintain a ““asymmetric” and “tough” response to an opponent, should need arise”, but I am not sure.

    In comment 119 above I linked to this article explaining how 5 small and relatively powerless countries have expelled Russian diplomats because of Russian bullying. All these countries are in Nato because that is the only way to keep the Russian bear at bay.

    “PRAGUE– The explosion was massive, blowing out windows of houses kilometers away, leaving a smoldering crater in the eastern Czech forest, not far from the border with Slovakia.

    The blast, on October 16, 2014, destroyed a cache of ammunition and related weaponry. The bodies of two men who worked at the site were recovered nearly a month later. A second explosion occurred about two months later at nearby location, about 1 kilometer away.

    The incident rattled Czech authorities, who were already watching warily as 1,700 kilometers away, Ukraine was gripped in a ferocious fight with a separatist uprising that was stoked, and fueled, by Russia. If there was a known connection at the time, it wasn’t ever revealed publicly by investigators.

    On April 17, however, Czech officials made a stunning allegation, drawing a direct line between the explosions and the Russian military intelligence agency known as the GRU — specifically, a division known as Unit 29155 that has been linked to assassination attempts and other subversive actions across Europe.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/czech-expulsions-bulgaria-gebrev-russia-gru-intelligence-explosion-spy-scandal/31209960.html

    Russia is back to her old bad habits, just like under Tsar Nicholas, Lenin, and Stalin. A tiger simply cannot change his stripes, and all of Eastern Europe knows this. That is why they are such tools for Nato, even allowing radars and nuclear weapons on their territory.

    This one is for FB the Commie who claims all of Eastern Europe loves and admires Vlad and Russia:
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/two-spies-an-explosion-and-the-czech-republic-s-new-rift-with-russia

    The revelation is forcing the Czech Republic to reconsider not just the Sputnik V vaccine, but Russia’s long-term economic involvement in the country. Minister of Industry and Trade Karel Havlíček has all but confirmed that the Russian company Rosatom, previously the favourite to win a major nuclear power plant contract, will now be excluded from the selection process. A crackdown on Russian organised crime and businessmen representing Russian state interests in the Czech Republic could also follow.

    For the majority of people in the Czech public – who remember the Soviet domination of Czechoslovakia from 1968 until the Velvet Revolution in 1989 – evidence of Moscow’s violation of Czech sovereign territory has confirmed their worst suspicions about Russia. Some protestors at the Russian Embassy on Sunday carried placards calling Czech President Miloš Zeman a ‘traitor’ for his pro-Russian tendencies and passionate lobbying for the use of Sputnik V.

    • Replies: @The Soft Parade
  163. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Levtraro

    You raise some interesting points, Levtraro, which I would be delighted to agree on (having left behind the “wonders” (read perplexities) of the system some years ago in favour of self reliance and connection with natural law).
    Sadly, however, upon exploring the details of un agendas 21/30 coupled with details of the “great reset”, the plans of “neoliberal” organisations to own and plunder the whole planet for their own empowerment become all too clear. Their ambitions to “rewild” the countryside translate as “depopulate” and exploit for resources.

  164. Schuetze says:
    @FB

    Not only Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Czechia and Slovakia are expelling Russians, Bulgaria is too. If the Russians cannot even convince their little Slav Brothers the Bulgarians that they are sincere partners, then who can they convince? It won’t be long before the Russians have no one left to lie to…

    Russia Expels Two Bulgarian Diplomats In Spy Dispute

    “The Russian Foreign Ministry called the expulsion of its diplomats from Bulgaria “baseless.”

    The expulsions came in March after prosecutors charged six people, including current and former military intelligence officers, with spying for Russia.

    The Bulgarian Foreign Ministry declared two Russian diplomats “personae non gratae” on March 22 because they had carried out activities “incompatible” with their diplomatic status.

    At the time, the Russian Embassy called the decision “groundless” and said that Moscow “reserves the right to retaliate.”

    Bulgaria has close cultural, historical, and economic ties with Russia, the country’s main energy partner. But relations between Sofia and Moscow have been hit by several spy scandals in recent years.

    Last week a Bulgarian arms trader was implicated in a major diplomatic row between Prague and Moscow after Czech intelligence linked Russian military agents to a deadly ammunition depot explosion in 2014 that killed two people.

    On March 19, Bulgarian authorities in the NATO member state announced they had busted an espionage group passing military secrets to Russia.

    Prosecutors said six people, including former and current military intelligence officers, were detained and charged for passing classified information about Bulgaria, NATO, and the EU to the Russian Embassy in Sofia.

    The Sofia Military District Court has ordered five of them remanded in custody, while another suspect was released on bail, according to the BTA news agency.

    Since October 2019, the EU and NATO member state has expelled five diplomats and employees of the Russian Embassy accused of conducting intelligence work.“

    The Bulgarians, slav little brothers are learning the hard way: With a big brother like Russia, who needs a pimp?

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @showmethereal
  165. @Schuetze

    Note to Wessies: Forget about ever ending your Solidaritätszuschlag (solidarity tax). I know, I know, the Ossies had it so good back then that even after 30 years they still cannot carry their own weight.

    I thought the plan was to keep it for as long as the DDR existed, at which point Die Ossivergeltungswaffe’s Nachfolger, Die Grüneisener Kanzlerin, will rename it an yet another EcoTax.

  166. @Schuetze

    He he he.
    I am pleased by your curiosity.
    But with your very narrow and limited brain capacity you will not be able to comprehend it at all.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  167. @Jazman

    Elon Musk isn’t a rocket-scientist or inventor. He is just a good businessmen and marketeer…. In effect, he exists only because American money bags have never been satisfied with NASA’s being a governmental agency.

    Musk saw all that sweet, sweet money flowing to the United Launch Alliance, and thought, “That looks lekker, mate,” and crunched the numbers and realised he could undercut them by half and still have a huge profit margin, and went to town picking the pockets of companies that had been fattening themselves at the NASA teat for half a century.

    Funny how the most successful African American actually came from Africa and is White.

  168. @Alfred

    You can bet the Climate Change fanatics will claim responsibility for keeping the Earth cool until then.

  169. Mefobills says:
    @Schuetze

    Your expression: “tax away unearned income and rents” is clearly a threat to me. Renting apartments can actually be a lot of work.

    Rent is a term re-entering the English language thanks to Michael Hudson. Rentier is French term, and relates to rent-racking.

    Rent-racking happened during the industrial era in England, where the feudal landlord class owned most of the land. The Norman’s had won the land in conquest, and had enclosed it. This meant that any production gains made in industry, would go to labor in the form of wages, and then land-lords would jack up rents.

    Land-lords had site value for their property, and those with site value would jack up rent prices. Rent prices had no counterpart in production, and hence were considered the taking of unearned income.

    Owning rental properties is not the same as the taking of rents. If you have a spam folder on your computer, that is not the same thing as eating spam luncheon meat.

    Gravity makes you fall down and bump your head. Taxes are law. Law is force. Taxes are the flip side of money.

    All wealth ultimately comes from land + labor.

    So, the proper way to tax is to separate unearned income/usury from production. The proper way to create and channel money is toward production and the commons.

    Your argument is that you are productive and don’t want it to be taxed away. The rent that you collect barely covers your costs, and especially your labor inputs.

    My argument is that there are ways to tax and inject money well known to mankind at this late stage in our history, but our elites are not trained. There are economic doctrines that completely ignore unearned income, as if it doesn’t exist.

    I am also making the case that China and to a lesser degree Russia, are moving in that direction – to properly tax and inject.

    The West is moving in the opposite direction, and makes pretend there is no such thing as unearned income and rents (in the rent-racking unearned sense).

    Ignore iron economic laws, and your civilization will reap the whirlwind.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  170. Mefobills says:
    @Schuetze

    There are ways to address every man made problem with man made solutions.

    Hyperinflation is a bad idea. All hyperinflations in history, with the exception of Zimbabwe were due to exchange rate pressure.

    Most people think that Germany’s hyperinflation was due to government printing, but that is not true, it was private hypothecations of new credit at private banks due to a shorting of the mark.

    Dollars, Gold, Pounds, and Francs, were used as collateral to take a short position. Germany was under exchange rate pressure in order to pay Versaille debts.

    The Reichsbank was privatized under the Dawe’s plan, and it took Government action to un-do the hyperinflation.

    After the German economy was busted out, our (((friends))) especially, borrowed overseas dollars and pounds, to buy up Germany real assets (now priced in devalued marks), such as land and industry.

    Russia has the Stolypin group, which is comprised of people who understand exactly how things work, but unfortunately they are not fully in charge. But, at least they have this group, there is no counterpart in the west.

    And therein lies the rub. If you populate your hierarchy with people who are not trained and have no real understanding, then expect bad outputs.

    You mention secret elites and their dilemma. In Fascism there are no secret elites. Secret elites are only concerned about their “take” and not the general welfare.

    With regards to debt release, that is technically easy to do. The old people pushing donkey carts to pick up trash are to be paid gap income, as they have inherited part of the production system passed down to them by their forbearers.

    If you could go back in time to Fascist Italy or NSDAP Germany, and interview the citizens, the vast majority were happy as things were constantly improving, especially as new money injected into production, and people were not debt burdened.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  171. Mefobills says:
    @Smith

    Inflation and hyperinflation is a thing due to no price control.

    There are several categories of inflation, and hyperinflation is a fairly unique (and avoidable) phenomenon.

    Price controls are something different, where government steps in to prevent price gouging on goods. Price controls can be bad where it distorts price signaling to increase production.

    Price controls are something like tariffs, where they can be good or bad depending on the situation.

    The U.S. got rich behind tariff walls, such that nascent industry was protected, and then the laboring public could create goods and services efficiently in an industrial setting.

  172. Johan says:
    @marckus

    If the democracy continues long enough, only the noise of violent utterances of hatred and division which bring about some activity in the mind of the crude will be heard on the political stage. These are not exactly a people of poetic refinement.

    Hyping is another hobby of the democratic peoples. Take a look for instance at Youtube, in the music section every individual declares this or that composer or artist to be a genius, or this particular piece to be the work of genius, important for all times to come. Not able to produce any flourishing refined culture, they are ever trying to dig up more, searching in all corners. This hyping is the sign of utter incompetence, of a culture which is desperate. The more desperate they become, the more noise they will make. The more atomized and egalitarian they become, being individually nothing in their collectivist system, the stronger words they need.

  173. Johan says:
    @tosh

    It takes a long time to become a leader, a long term of learning and experience, hence the Western democracies produce no competent leaders. Besides, the democratic peoples of the West don’t want leaders, they want to lead themselves. They are envious rebels of egalitarianism who do not know how to value a superior man, they en mass continuously throw mud at potential leaders, they get what they deserve, incompetent, corrupt and spineless men. In fact, the whole of the Western democratic culture is based upon mud throwing rebellious egalitarianism, thus Western society produces no eminent men, and no culture.

  174. Anon[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @Aaron Hilel

    Following 911, it was Putin who was sincerely and most passionately pro American in the political and military circles . He obviously believed that was right thing to do .
    Since then Putin has possibly come to embrace the suspiciousness and distrust of the rest.
    After Putin, the next person will be much less positive to West. Will be least likely to show restraint.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
  175. Malla says:
    @Zarathustra

    So in my opinion West should not really expect great enthusiasm in those countries for attacking Russia.

    If you ask me some Eastern European Slavic nations like the Poles are more anti-Russia than many Western Europeans are (who are being brainwashed by anti-Russia local media ofcourse). Indeed many Western European nationalists (Le Pen of France or Nick Griffin of the UK) are tired of American domination and look more positively towards Russia which they see as an European country with a more nationalist leadership, which they would prefer for their own nations. Maybe it is “grass is greener on the other side” thingy.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
    , @Garliv
  176. Johan says:
    @Schuetze

    ” I recently had to completely sanitize and apartment that some Hungarians had trashed and it cost me almost a year of their rent. ”

    In these times of continuous uprooting and atomization, renting houses will necessary be a great burden. The democratic tendency of trying to arrange matters by more and more regulations will only make it a greater burden. In addition, the scam of the Climate church will contribute to making things unnecessarily expensive. There is nothing to do about it, the landlord has its burdens as well as the renter, as well as the rest of society.

    • Agree: Schuetze
  177. Robjil says:
    @Schuetze

    slav little brothers are learning the hard way:

    The Zion US empire is like the roach motel. Once you get in you, can not get out.

    All these “free” nations can not get out, so they follow all the commands of the Zion US empire.

    It is the way it is.

    A lot of little people in these “free” nations do not like what their “leaders ( really just followers of their Zion rulers)” are doing.

    • Agree: Kali, Alfred
    • Replies: @Schuetze
  178. Schuetze says:
    @Zarathustra

    Climatards have no shame. They have been strutting around like Chicken Little for 45 years now. The snow keeps falling, the ski resorts remain open, the pacific islands haven’t sunk, the polar bears have been breeding so fast that they are a big problem, there are still glaciers all over the place, and the most important thing is that man kind is no where near extinct.

    Yet the climatards keep repeating the same old bullshit like a 45 year old broken LP record. One would think that would realize that being on the same script as George Soros, Prince Charles, Evelyn Rothschild, Bill Gates, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Janet Yellen, Christine Lagarde, Jeffry Epstein, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Al Gore, Klaus Schwab and even that mentally retarded Greta Thunberg would be enough for them to show some humility and shame. But no, we keep getting spammed by climatards 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. As I said, they simply have no shame.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  179. Mefobills says:
    @Levtraro

    I fundamentally disagree. The evolution of the liberal state is toward letting the masses go on their own, not to integrate them with social credit systems.

    I fundamentally disagree with your disagreement, as my view is based on empirical facts from history, not wishful thinking.

    Liberalism is a big reason we live in clown world today, as liberalism tries to undo the Logos. The Logos is the natural order of man and the universe, and liberalism pretends there is no natural order.

    Letting the masses “go on their own” will then enable alpha males to drive around in the white Toyota “Technical” pickup trucks, picking and choosing the juiciest women, and then terrorizing the population, so said alpha males may self aggrandize themselves as the great leaders.

    Oh wait… that experiment in Liberalism has already been run.

    If you click your heels together, and purse your lips just right, you may be able transport yourself to a fantasy island where liberalism works.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  180. @Malla

    Poles and Russians have a history. Poles did attack Russia when Russia was still weak.
    They did steel from Russia all gold icons and church properties. Than Polish-Lithuenian empire with help of Hungarians did attack Russian Czardom and almost did destroy it. Than Russian czar established the cast of Cossack that protected Russia and did allow Russia to grow.
    Then came Germans who kept attacking Russia They went through all Baltic area.
    Russians were fighting back and eventually Germans Austrians and Russians did divide Poland among themselves. It did happen two or three times. So location of Poland was for them kind of unfortunate.
    That is why Poles are so naturally hysterical, seeking protection from US.

  181. @Schuetze

    Please be patient. All I need is article about Global warming where I will smack my theory.
    I do not know maybe you are intelligent enough to understand it. But than maybe not.
    But I do stand by my prediction of 95% of humanity to die off.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  182. Schuetze says:
    @Robjil

    That would be a possible explanation if it were one or two countries. But we are talking about Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Czechia, Slovakia and Bulgaria have thrown out Russian diplomats due to Russian behavior. Of course Ukraine and Georgia, non Nato members, also have extreme difficulties dealing with Russia. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania also have the misfortune of having to deal with uppity Russian minorities who are constantly threatening to appeal to Russia to intervene on their behalf. These people behave even worse than Israeli dual citizens. As I have said before, you Russophiles are like jews who claim that after getting thrown out of 109 countries that the only problem is anti-semitism.

    And sure, over the sabotage, spying and even poisoning Russia has some plausible deniability, just like Joe Biden. But when it comes to flying bombers and sending submarines close enough to threaten these countries, no other country holds a candle to Russia.

    But most of all, there is the looming May Day parade of Macho Russian world destroying militarism. The message is getting broadcast loud and clear across all of Eastern Europe: The Russian Bully is Back.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @Alfred
  183. Schuetze says:
    @Mefobills

    “My argument is that there are ways to tax and inject money well known to mankind at this late stage in our history, but our elites are not trained.”

    I don’t know if you are a US person, or if you live in the US. I spent decades as a US expat, and have had to live and cope with double taxation by two arrogant, incompatible, ignorant and tax systems that obstinately refuse to consider what the other is doing.

    Try living in a situation were you are taxed on capital gains in one country, and on wealth in the other. Try dealing with a death in the family and an inheritance when one country insists that death taxes are owed by the estate, and the other insists that the death taxes are owed by the descendents.

    But even worse, try living in a non-US country and deal with FBAR, Fatca, Gilti, FEIE, transfer tax, covered and uncovered expatriation.

    I tell you this not so that you will feel sorry for me, but so that you understand that more and more complicated tax regimes to try to “inject money” or try to bring equality are not only a nightmare for middle class entrepreneurs, they are usually quite counter productive to wealth creation.

    As a land lord I cannot even start to conceive how two different countries might punish or damage my life by trying to determine what part of my income from rentals is “earned rent” and what part is “rentier rent”.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  184. The West, led by the United States, wants women across the entire planet to be able to kill their offspring at any time, men across the entire world to stick their penises up another man’s ass at any time, and children, even infants, to be sexually abused at any time. The entire federal bureaucracy of the United States has been infiltrated by sexual degenerates. That’s what all of this is about. It is Satanic cultural imperialism. These faggots will go to war to impose their evil agenda on the rest of the world.

    And Putin is having none of it. And I say, kudos to him.

  185. Garliv says:
    @Malla

    If you ask me some Eastern European Slavic nations like the Poles are more anti-Russia than many Western Europeans are

    I think for some Eastern European countries (Poles) its a question of a neighbor who mistakes the newcomer across the seas as “better than the devil they know.” Or worse mistakenly believe the newcomer will aid them against their ancient enemy. Thus Poles are in some lalaland thinking Americans/Nato will aid them in their ancient disputations with Russians.

  186. For now, there is no reason to panic. Since 1945 (Operation Unthinkable) Heaven is holding back the wind of the WW3. And so it will be until the appointed time. In the Book of Daniel, we read, “And both these kings [Great Britain and Russia. In 1882 British troops occupied Egypt. Great Britain then took the role of “the king of the south”. Around the same time, Russia expanded its influence in the region, which previously belonged to Seleucus I Nicator, and took the role of “the king of the north”], their hearts (will be) to do mischief, and at one table (they) will speak a lie; but it will not succeed. Indeed yet (the) completion to (the) appointed time. And [the king of the north] will go back (to) his land with great wealth [1945. This detail indicated that after the previous victories Hitler will attack the Soviet Union and will fight to the bitter end]; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant [Soviet Union introduced state atheism and believers were repressed]; and will act [it means a lot of activity in the international arena]; and go back to his own land [1991-1993. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. The troops from the Soviet military bases returned to their country]. At the appointed time (he) will return back [Russia will regain the influence, which it lost after the break-up of the Soviet Union. Furthermore, it also means crisis, which will eclipse the Great Depression. Not only the eurozone will break up, but also the European Union and NATO. Then, also, many countries of the former Eastern block will return to a military alliance with Russia], and will enter into the south [this will be the beginning of the global nuclear war. The detonator will be the ethnic conflict to the south of Russia’s borders (Matthew 24:7)], but it will not be as the former [2008 – Georgia] or as the latter [Ukraine. Here too, a military response from the West is not to be expected now. However, the next time, after the return of Russia, there will be a military confrontation with the United States], for the dwellers of coastlands of Kittim [the distant West, to be precise – Americans] will come against him, and (he) will break down [will lose hope], and will go back.” (11:27-30a)

    • Replies: @anon
  187. Kapyong says:
    @FB

    “Did these unhappy guys really land on the moon…or did the moon land on them?”

    Indeed.
    The most famous men in the world having just completed the most significant event in human history. Literally. They should be bursting with excitement, pride, huge grins, bubbling over with energy about what they did, what they saw, what they felt.

    But we see the opposite – unhappy, embarrassed, reluctant, awkward.

    Years later Armstrong spoke to NASA’s younglings :

    There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth’s protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief.

    What are those truths, still protected ?

  188. Schuetze says:
    @Zarathustra

    While I wait, I’ll ask you a few simple questions. Are you aware of geoengineering? Are you aware that Russia has a massive ionospheric heater (haarp) up by Murmansk?

    If you are aware, then how can you be certain that climate and climate events have not been deliberately man made? If you are not aware, then reading this from me how can you be certain that geoengineering is not the cause of “climate disruption”?

    https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org

    Here is Gutfeld on Kerry and Global Warming….

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  189. Levtraro says:
    @Mefobills

    It seems you took me for a liberal, some fundamental misunderstanding there. I don’t know what “Logos” mean (except literally in Greek), but it seems to be very important to you, to ‘man’, and to the universe. I guess though the universe couldn’t care less, it is a huge and mostly empty place.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  190. anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ewiak Ryszard

    You are following the footsteps of the writers of the Gospels . Known events are being projected back as future events to visit foretold by the prophets

  191. @Schuetze

    Sorry no. And none of them rise to level of noticeable influence. My theory is actually Earth shaking.

  192. Mefobills says:
    @Levtraro

    There are some such as Jones who are attempting to define the logos, and others who have a different definition:

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/04/20/the-logos-of-e-michael-jones/

    The founding fathers were deists and their view of the logos was a mechanistic universe, where the planets and humans had an order that could be perceived.

    Your perception is that the universe in empty, and perhaps are a nihilist, not a liberal.

    Liberals for the most part, want to tear down the natural order. The natural order, or logos, can be perceived if you don’t lie to yourself. For example, women are not the same as men, and carry babies in their wombs. Men have a penis and a set of testicles that make sperm.

    A liberal would say that sex differences are unnatural, and you end up with transgenders making claims against nature. A liberal would go along with happy claptrap that you can just let a population loose and that things will somehow work out fine. A nihilist would observe a loose population killing itself, raping, plundering and not give a damn.

  193. Parbes says:
    @Mefobills

    “If you could go back in time to…. NSDAP Germany, and interview the citizens, the vast majority were happy as things were constantly improving….”

    Yeah…and then their hindbrain-driven dumbass hick of a ‘Fuehrer’, the illustrious Adolphus Hiedler of Braunau Am Inn, went and ruined it all by attacking right and left like a rabid dog, culminating in the maniacal assault on the Soviet Union in history’s largest carnage – devastating both countries as well as most of the rest of Europe, destroying the cream of their male gene pool, slaughtering 50 million MORE Europeans in a Europe that was barely starting to recover from the disaster of World War I, and handing global Premier Hegemonic Power status to the Anglo-Zionist “diverse” U.S. Empire on a platter. Instead of focusing on: consolidating and strengthening Germany; getting rid of the troublesome Jews; and shoring up German defenses against the Anglo-Zionist imperialists of the U.S. and U.K. – all of which would have ensured the continued existence of his regime and Germany as a strong, united, independent, ascendant and dominant nation in the middle of a healthy Europe, taking no shit from the U.S. Empire or anyone else, much less being its pathetic vassal.

    And there are still morons considering themselves “white nationalists”, “neo-Nazis” or whatever today, who admire and try to rehabilitate this incompetent buffoon and his regime of malevolent loons. Stupidity knows no bounds.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  194. Mefobills says:
    @Schuetze

    I tell you this not so that you will feel sorry for me, but so that you understand that more and more complicated tax regimes to try to “inject money” or try to bring equality are not only a nightmare for middle class entrepreneurs, they are usually quite counter productive to wealth creation.

    I’m telling you straight up that there is always hierarchy, and if the hierarchy is constructed improperly, that is a different question than whether or not it exists.

    Your complaint is that since you are taking a screwing, that you life energy is being stolen, that everything should be dismantled. Then it is replaced by what? It will be another hierarchy.

    There have been civilizations in the past that did their best to figure out how to prevent people like you from being double taxed, and to release you to be productive. Even for short periods in the U.S. under the American System of Economy, Americans were released to be productive, and most taxes were covered by tariffs.

    I’m an American living in Texas. It doesn’t matter where I live, the truth of things are what they are. You can be a landlord and collect rental income and NOT BE A RENTIER.

    A rentier is giving a screwing, not taking a screwing. The fact that humans are unable to figure this stuff out is a function of humans not training their governing hierarchy. We are not learning from the past.

    The average person is unable to comprehend things because they are gas-lit, which is why I take some time out of my day to blog here and teach. I don’t have to do it.

    The third persons who inject themselves into our lives are unqualified for the most part, so if you complained about your double taxation, or how some renter destroyed your property, you would get the blank eye stare.

    Under kingship rule in the ancient near east, debts not your fault were erased. For example, you property was destroyed by a renter, putting you into debt burden not your fault. The king (if he wasn’t an ass) could be petitioned for redress, and your taxes would be forgiven, or some sort of deal made so you were not busted out.

    The analogy they made was that if you were transporting goods, and a robbery happened, both the creditor (owner of the goods) and debtor (person doing the transport) could be released from an unnatural debt that occurred by happenstance e.g. flood, robbery, or other situations beyond your control.

    Generally you had to swear to the evidence, and another party had to swear also, before the debt was released.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
  195. FB says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    In a fully automated and robotised society, where a technological society is ultimately headed, wouldn’t it make sense to pay people for doing nothing? Sort of give them UBI, one equivalent to a fairly decent wage but not requiring employment.

    Good question, Mike. A number of comments here have reflexively pooh-poohed the UBI comment from Putin, along with the other social benefit increases he mentioned. This kind of reaction comes from simply not understanding how things actually work.

    First let’s think about the idea of automation, which has in fact been with us throughout history, and has rapidly accelerated in the last couple of centuries. I remember being mesmerized by my grandmother’s spinning wheel as a young boy.

    Old woman with Irish spinning wheel – around 1900 Library of Congress collection

    Of course nobody was using those anymore, even back then nearly sixty years ago, but that wheel was something my grandmother inherited and was taught how to use when she was a little girl…because rural folks 100 years ago still made cloth like that. My grandfather likewise kept a team of big Belgian draft horses, even though plowing had long since switched to tractors. So today it probably takes a couple of man-days of work to produce clothes and food that would have taken those folks a year!

    So automation has in fact been with us a long time and people, being as ‘smart’ as they are [just look at the brainiacs on this thread], should have a really good handle on this, right?

    So today if you go to a state-of-the art car factory for instance, you will see already extensive use of robots and highly automated machines. You need far fewer people, but you do still need some. You also need a lot of engineers who are going to design those machines and that entire automated production line, with a lot of custom-made equipment, since producing spaghetti is not going to be the same as churning out automatic transmissions.

    But we note here that industrial production is just a small part of what we need. We also need doctors and teachers and professors that are going to train those engineers etc. We also need bus drivers and pilots and people driving those big mine excavators etc. You still need a guy to come to your house to install that fancy new bathtub, and you still need that guy down the street chopping your Korean veggies, even if they do figure out how to get that meal to you by drone.

    So how far along are we on this road of automation? Is it really going to make much difference if we can reduce employment in factories, even by 90 percent, if that entire manufacturing sector employs just one tenth of the workforce as it is?

    So the answer is pretty obvious. We’re already pretty automated in manufacturing and any reductions are not going to be that huge. And since many things still need human hands [from surgery to operating machines] then the reality is that we are not heading for any huge reductions in workforce. That is in fact quite obvious. The biggest steps in workforce reduction are probably already behind us.

    So then what is going on with this ‘agenda’ with UBI and associated things like this ‘great reset’ and 4’th industrial revolution etc? Why is this even a ‘thing’?

    Well, let’s think about two very basic concepts: scarcity and abundance.

    Obviously it would be great if we could just load up our shopping cart at the food store and the electronics store…and pay one tenth the price we do now. That’s abundance. All the ‘regular’ folks want that, who wouldn’t? Well, I’ll show you one guy who wouldn’t:

    [MORE]

    That’s Larry Fink, who heads up the EIGHT TRILLION DOLLAR BlackRock superfund, probably the world’s biggest ‘investor’ pool.

    This one ‘capital pool’ owns or co-owns pretty much every company and bank under the sun, along with a few other such giant ‘investment’ firms like Vanguard, State Street and a few others. Neither this guy, nor King Bezos, nor Lizard Gates, nor any of the several thousand parasites on Wall Street has anything to gain by abundance for the people.

    Yet abundance is precisely where we are heading, and have been headed for many years now, as we continue to figure out how to make more food, more clothes, more of everything, with less and less EFFORT.

    That is the conundrum. The unstoppable advent of abundance. It’s a big problem because capitalism has always operated strictly on the principle SCARCITY.

    The ‘golden rule’ of supply and demand works on the principle of scarcity = good. Who would want to produce a lot of stuff, only to get less money?

    So you have for instance the government paying huge amounts of money to agribusiness to NOT plant crops and leave fields empty. Because you don’t want the price of grain or rice to fall through the floor. Yes you can make more than people can eat, but that would be ‘bad.’

    The supply of energy is another example, with the Opec cartel controlling output. In this case we have lately seen the US doing the opposite and trying to increase supply and lower prices by desperately producing economically nonviable oil and gas from literally cracking the bedrock open to extract hydrocarbons [which is causing huge damage to the vital resource of groundwater].

    But now, in the midst of this capitalist headlock on the engineered scarcity system, we have the curious case of China, the ‘world’s workshop.’ Ironically, this came about as an inevitable consequence of the same drive for scarcity by the Larry Finks of the world. In this case it was labor arbitrage by way of offshoring production.

    Unlike produced goods, including, crucially, food, which you want to be artificially scarce, labor should always be abundant, so that it is cheap. That is why manufacturing moved to China, and is also why we have massive immigration. [Although the immigration is even more important for the Ponzi banking economy, because you need to get more warm bodies each year to take out loans…since a bank loan is the only way new money comes into existence, and thus keeps the Ponzi afloat. But that’s a little sideways jaunt from the topic at hand.]

    So let’s step back and take a look at the overall picture. After the destruction of WW2, the US was left in a powerful position. Not only did it have the world’s biggest industrial production, but also agricultural. Michael Hudson stresses the importance of commodity food production. which people often overlook [see Super Imperialism]. But in fact food is a huge factor in global power. [I won’t get into the nitty grit here].

    So is energy, which the US also managed to get control of by coopting the oil-producing Gulf monarchies, really by sheer arm-twisting. Crucially, it is not necessary for the US to own them, as you would by invading. It’s only necessary that they sell oil only in dollars. They are given to understand, like any protection racket, that if they refuse to play ball then bad things will happen. See Saddam and Gadafi.

    Europe, which is another center of industrial production, was similarly subsumed right after Russia defeated Germany.

    So in those postwar decades you had the US in full control of the key levers of global power: food, energy and manufactured goods. It meant that the US was in essence the ‘superstore’ and if you wanted to either buy or sell grain and oil and cars and radios, you would have to buy dollars. And buying dollars means you are LENDING money to the US government, who is then free to print more and more ‘free’ dollars for itself. Right now there are 26 trillion dollars held offshore, plus another eight trillion in T-bills.

    This is really the key to US postwar power and domestic prosperity: control of the major commodities that people need to live, as well as the manufactured products that you also need in your everyday life.

    So let’s tie this back into abundance and scarcity. During all that time that it became easier and cheaper to produce more and more of all of these things, it was also REQUIRED to keep people’s income DOWN!

    This chart speaks for itself. It shows that incomes have sharply diverged from productivity, starting in the 1970s. This trend is exactly mirrored by another measure, that of the amount of total wealth owned by the 0.1 percent:

    We see the exact same timeline. By 1978, the share of wealth of the top fraction of the demographic has bottomed out, and then starts shooting skyward. It’s clear to see just where those gains in productivity ended up!

    So now we have a situation where we actually NEED for people to buy more of that cheap stuff that China is so happily supplying. That benefits the entire community, because the food store and electronic store and the car store and everybody else who is selling stuff needs people coming in and buying. That is the idea behind the universal basic income. It is a necessary thing to balance the productivity gains, which obviously didn’t result in more spending power for the masses, but for only a few who cannot possibly spend that much anyway.

    It is a new twist for capitalism, which doesn’t quite yet know how to operate in a world that runs on abundance instead of scarcity.

    Now let’s consider the global picture, which is in fact far more interesting. We have now a global system in which one of the major pillars of US power has been taken over by China…the manufacture of goods. So what happens if the other two major pillars are also knocked away? Those being the supply of the basic commodities of food and energy?

    The result is of course that there is no more US ‘superstore.’ No one will need to buy US dollars or US government debt [Treasury Bills]. That is the nightmare that awaits. At that point the entire Ponzi edifice that has been built on credit and taking ‘rent’ on that credit by way of interest…as well as the entire ‘middleman’ scam, known as ‘financialization, where you have for instance banks and insurance companies dealing in between the end customer, like patients and students, and the actual providers, like doctors and teachers, always taking a huge and completely unnecessary cut…all of that just implodes like the house of cards that it is.

    If we look carefully we see Russia as the other shoe that is going to drop. Because this is the country that is able to dominate the energy business, as well as the commodity grain business. Once the US control of those two pillars also is upended, then it is all over. There will be no more levers of global control by means of those three crucial things! That, is exactly why there is all of this screaming and foot-stomping about Russia, and also about China.

    The US is not in a position to do anything militarily against those two powers. In fact, technologically the US is decades behind Russia in key things like hypersonics and aerospace tech. The US graduates half the engineers that Russia does, thanks to the financialization of higher education in the US, and a culture that rewards ‘professions’ like banking and law, while ignoring the real meat and potatoes of human progress, which is HARD SCIENCE.

    This downward trajectory of financial capitalism was of course bound to happen. The ‘great reset’ and such schemes are therefore attempts to forestall that. Could this ‘new idea’ in fact have something to do with the notion of actually LIFTING folks up, and thereby lifting the yachts as well, with the rising tide that lifts all boats?

    Who knows what they are thinking. But thinking they are, because we do hear snippets about these grandiose new departures they are cooking up in Davos.

    Of course the whole ‘green’ thing is the equally desperate maneuver to forestall the loss of control of the global energy flow. There is no scientific basis that oil comes from biomatter or any kind of ‘fossils,’ in fact it is contrary to known principles of thermodynamics. For proof, just consider what is required to turn biomatter into fuel…the Fischer-Tropf process. No such underground factory has ever sprung up on its own, lol!

    But those conditions [temperatures of 300 C and pressures of tens of atmospheres] do exist many miles below the surface, where no life or ‘fossils’ have ever existed. And where in fact today’s deep drilling technology is lifting up oil and gas. Those hydrocarbons being formed from primal carbon and hydrogen deep in the earth’s crust, not any kind of ‘biomass.’

    In the final analysis, the US has chosen to go down kicking and screaming, because there is no way of saving its privileged position, this global ‘superstore’ that it has been running and on which it depends for its prosperity. It is for simple greed and exploiting ordinary workers and families that we are where we are. Reset or not, there is no changing the fact that China and Russia together have the means of wresting those three pillars of global control from the Larry Finks of this world.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike, Jazman, Vidi, Kali
  196. A.K.Patal says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    “They are on board with the globalist agenda”

    False! It is realy easy to check the false statement that you made here by asking two clear cut questions: 1) if the oligarchs and the globalists could starve Russia, wouldn’t they? Yes, they would have. 2) If they could kick Mr. Putin out of power, wouldn’t they? Of course they would have.

    But here are the facts. They tried both, but failed miserably on both. Just see how much effort they are making to cancel the Nord Stream2 project which is so important for Russia. And all the indications suggest they failed on that as well. Now, keep that holcaust denying thing to yourself, but the reality that everybody could see is that the globalists are no friends of Mr. Putin or Russia. Mr. Putin has beaten them at every confrontation that, out desperation, the globalists have turned the old adage of ‘if you cannot beat them join them’ upside down, by falsely insinuating, through you, that ‘Mr. Putin is one of their guys!’ Nice try!

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  197. Mefobills says:
    @Parbes

    https://www.unz.com/mhudson/in-quest-of-a-multipolar-economic-world-order/#comment-4565240

    From GeeBee:

    One must bear in mind that the West exterminated Industrial Capitalism’s 20th-century political manifestations in a war for Finance Capitalism’s future. Had the German and Italian National Socialist/Fascist models prevailed, it spelt the end for that future. They knew they had to wipe the German and Italian models off the face of the earth, and then bury them beneath a moraine of propaganda that must never for one moment let up, lest the people would come to see just what these vermin had done and how they had been tricked into fighting their own salvation, and ‘winning’, at huge loss of blood and treasure, a ‘victory’ that was nothing less than their own nemesis.

    Imagine that for a moment: the people had willingly swapped their salvation for their nemesis because of Jewish lies and trickery. Then imagine a world in which this became common knowledge. Then look at ‘Chopkins’ (as Mefobills recently re-named C J Hopins) here at Unz Review, with his unending invocations of ‘the ebil Naaazzziiis’ in each and every one of his propagandist offerings.

    No doubt you are right in that when Hitler turned outward toward war, national socialism was extirpated from the world scene and history.

    The question you should be asking yourself would be, how should a civilization organize itself so that a leader will not lead his people off a cliff into war.

    I’m no fan of Hitler’s turning outward toward war, but I’m also cognizant of the maneuvers finance capital made in the decades preceding the movement to war.

    • Replies: @Parbes
    , @Zarathustra
  198. @Schuetze

    Russia is back to her old bad habits . . . On April 17, however, Czech officials made a stunning allegation, drawing a direct line between the explosions and the Russian military intelligence agency known as the GRU

    Understood. Russia is unhappy that Germany wholeheartedly welcomes a Nordstream 2 pipeline of cheap available fuel which sells itself, and for these reasons has instead chosen to queer the deal and bully Europe. Got it.

    . . .Back to the gin thing. It’s understandable how the cheap stuff may have caused you to make such a claim–yet with the help of that gin you may also forget having done so.

  199. “We always come back to the same crucial issue: whether Putin will be able, against all odds, to pull a combined Bismarck-Sun Tzu move and build a lasting German-Russian entente cordiale”

    Hear! Hear!

    Furthermore. It is heartening that Putin reads Kipling. The Gods of the Copybook Headings is the most conservative poem ever written. There is always the threat that Russia will be destroyed by wellfare state and corporatism. Moscow should not do hand outs. Moscow is military protection.

    http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm

  200. @FB

    In my family, here in Sweden. We had exactly that model of spinning wheel. Unfortunately, with broken parts, lost now.

    • Replies: @FB
  201. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    A pragmatically reasonable person might even arrive at saying that if ballot stuffing is what keeps Putin in the position to ward off the West, so be it. Some might even argue that Russia’s history solidly affirms the outrageous cost of not having had a Putin until now.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/putins-5-star-hotel-in-gelendzhik/#comment-4426528

  202. Parbes says:
    @Mefobills

    Hitler wasn’t pushed into his attack on the Soviet Union, Poland etc. by the HOSTILITY of Western “finance capitalism” towards HITLER’S GERMANY – that notion is not even preposterous, it’s just imbecilic. He was motivated by those warm, fuzzy ideas like “untermenschen (directed towards fellow white Europeans!)”, “lebensraum”, and “drang nach osten”.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Malla
    , @annamaria
  203. @Mefobills

    Very powerful but it does require more proof.

  204. Mefobills says:
    @Parbes

    It was much more complicated. You have been drinking the cool aide. Ron Unz has many links on the period leading up to war.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Parbes
  205. @Ross23

    Based on his behavior over the years I’m pretty certain Putin doesn’t trust NATO one bit… The FM has said as much…. Saying they expect them to always be anti Russia.

  206. FB says: • Website
    @Erikassimo

    Thanks. Those were of course an important household item back in the day. I wonder if Larry Fink’s grandmother had one? 🤔

  207. @stevennonemaker88

    These measures, instituted in a country ruled by its Government, in the interests of the many, not the blood-sucking oligarch few, are entirely different from the planned changes in the West. Apples and oranges. Russia is NOT the USA, or even France.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  208. Vidi says:
    @FB

    SPECIAL REPORT: In eastern Europe, people pine for socialism–Reuters

    Thanks for the link. I notice that the article is now undated. That annoyed me, so I used the Wayback Machine to find what may be the original version:

    Original special report: people pine for socialism–Reuters

    This version is dated November 7, 2009. That was not as recent as I would prefer, but it was still almost twenty years after the Berlin Wall fell. There should have been enough time for adaptation to the capitalist world, yet as the article makes clear, most people in Eastern Europe thought socialism would be better for them.

    As far as I can tell, there isn’t much difference between the two versions of the article. A couple of propaganda pictures have actually been deleted from the newer version, believe it or not. So fair enough, except for the undating.

    • Thanks: FB
  209. @Kali

    The climate is destabilising, as swings of temperature, temperature extremes and extremes of rainfall and cyclonic winds show. Closing your eyes and mind won’t make it go away. It is important because it was the relative climate stability of the Holocene that allowed the present Earth human population, and ‘civilization’ to arise, particularly through agricultural productivity.
    Of course there are cycles, in solar radiance, the Milankovitch Cycles that move the Earth into and out of glaciations, and variations, if not strictly cycles, in vulcanism, and the much slower movements of tectonic plates. There may even be galactic cycles, but I doubt that they vary much on the 200 year period that is the result of the forcing of greenhouse gas increases in the troposphere. That forcing far outweighs any changes in solar activity over those brief centuries. You’ll have to get used to it-denying it, unlike denying the boogey-man, won’t make it go away. And, please, don’t label your banal idiocies as ‘nuanced’-they are the exact opposite of subtle.

    • Replies: @Kali
  210. @Schuetze

    Imbecile (being generous). The Russian parade is on Victory Day, May 9th, not May Day, when the Russians celebrate smashing fascists like you.

    • LOL: FB
    • Replies: @Schuetze
  211. Smith says:

    @ Mefobills

    Of course, it’s bad in case when the government wants to make stuff costlier (i.e. tariffs), but that still depends on which kind of goods.

    But if the government intervenes and makes thing cheaper, what’s wrong there?

    The issue is US and american “people” fear the very word “government intervention”.

  212. Anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    Excellent comment FB !

    The big question is how will these “scarcity parasites” like Lary Fink[elstein] and the RottenChild Crime Clan play their losing hand?

    Their usual modus operandi is to instigate economic and or military conflict (aka Libya 2011, Germany Italy Japan 1939, and Russia 1917, etc.)

    Do you anticipate any way of diffusing the situation without major conflict…for ALL boats to rise with the incoming tide?

    • Replies: @FB
  213. John Hagan says: • Website

    Where as Pepe:’The “West” was not even mentioned by name. Only indirectly, or via a delightful metaphor, Kipling’s Jungle Book. I think another metaphor might be the baroque that resulted in a 30 year war 1600-1750. So ….

    I have upgraded my baroque video that deals with such civilisational culture wars and it features Thatcher, Johnson, 2 Bidens, AOC, Kamala, B.Bardot, Candice Owens, MacEnany, Soros, Benjamin Netanyahu, Hillary, Bush, Madow, Pelosi, McConnel, Psaki and Mona Lisa all as characters in Rubens and other baroque paintings where somehow they do not look out of place. Those students of history who are interested in ‘culture wars’ might find the analogies interesting and just how well the characters fit in such irregular exaggerations.
    Cheers John!

    • Thanks: FB, Jazman
  214. Avery says:
    @Mefobills

    Well, maybe it was complicated, but Hitler made the decision – on his own – to invade USSR. And it was no last minute decision. Hitler wrote about Lebensraum in the East in his Mein Kampf in 1925. Did he or didn’t he? Did anyone provoke him to dream about emptying lands populated by Slavic peoples and filling them with Germanic peoples?

    He may have been so-called “provoked”, or this, or that, and the other thing.
    But he decided to invade USSR, and as poster [Parbes] wrote above, caused the premature deaths of 10s of millions of Caucasians/Europeans/Whites. As a direct result of Hitler’s stupidity, defeated and guilt-ridden Germans willingly prostrated themselves to be under the Chauvin-knee of the GloboSorosistas.

    Had Hitler satisfied himself with Austria and Sudetenland – to which both UK and Frances agreed to at Munich – Germany today would be a proud, independent nation of its indigenous German people. Instead of being a vassal of GloboSorosistas and under the jackboot of AngloAmericans, and being flooded with millions of non-German Muslims – courtesy of GloboSorosistas.

    Let’s contrast the messianic psychopath with the current Russian leadership.
    Globos have been provoking Putin and Russia ever since the drunkard Yeltsin mercifully left the stage.

    Creeping NATO to Russia’s border, despite their pledge not to.
    Provocation in Georgia.
    Provocations in Ukraine – massacres of ethnic Russians in Odessa.
    Provocations in Syria: shootdown of Su-24 by NATO(Turks); Shootdown of Il-19 with the loss of a couple dozen RF airmen; targeted killing of a group of Russian nurses; targeted killing of a Russian general and colonel.
    And on, and on.

    In each case Russia had casus belli to start a war.
    She had the power to nuke and vaporize any and all miscreants, but to what end?
    Putin & Co kept their cool and didn’t start thinking they are invincible – like der Führer.
    And that’s the difference between a rational leader who knows his limitations and a megalomaniac psychopath.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
    , @Kali
  215. Parbes says:
    @Mefobills

    I haven’t been drinking anything. YOU are the one who is under the influence of pro-Nazi nonsensical revisionist history propaganda, the sole aim of which is to exonerate the Hitler regime from the catastrophes it caused.

  216. Mefobills says:

    I disagree with Hitler’s turn to war the same as you. NSDAP thought was more than one man and was a sophisticated ideology.

    No doubt the war was a disaster. That said, a rational person is able to look back and assess the period without histrionics.

    Yes, Hitler could take some lessons from Putin. The analogy is apt as Russia is being demonized and attacked. History doesn’t repeat but it rhymes.

    • Replies: @Smith
    , @Kali
  217. @RJ Macready

    Considering your critical thinking skills, I assume you think Muslim terrorist blew up 3 buildings in NY City on 9/11.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  218. @Carroll Price

    My critical thinking skills are far better than your assuming ones. I am certain of this.

  219. Smith says:
    @Mefobills

    Mefobills seems rational on this.

    I have seen many Hitler-sympathetic guys gone crazy over the rationale of invading the USSR.

    It was a bad decision that costed Hitler’s empire, same for Napoleon.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
    , @Mefobills
  220. Schuetze says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    “The Russian parade is on Victory Day, May 9th, not May Day”

    Cooling planet Earth to climatard: In the West it is known as the May Day Parade. Only “Muh big Dick” Russian war mongers, useful idiot communists and climatards like you call it Victory Day. look here:

    duck duck go

    • Replies: @FB
  221. @AH14

    So Russia attacked Georgia for no reason, just so Georgia would be dependent on Israel. You somehow neglect to mention that Georgia’s idiot president Sakashvili launched an unnecessary attack on Tskhinvali South Ossetia prior to Russia’s involvement. Also no mention of Russia’s self interest in keeping NATO off its doorstep.

    You also purport that Russia is some kind of Trojan horse for Israel in Syria. Without Russian support, Syria would already have been broken up into several new nations, just as Israel wants. Russia is the only reason Assad is still in power. I suppose you think that is what Israel wants also, even though Israel has been trying to remove Assad since 2011.

    Please be a little more careful when spouting nonsense, everyone should be able to speak their mind, some should just make sure they are on a fast horse when doing so.

  222. Alfred says:
    @Zarathustra

    Solar activity introduces tiny variation into system. But there is a system that rules the temperature of our globe. Our globe will be heating up continuously.

    Facts are such a nuisance to people who are committed to the warmist cult. 🤣

    The article below would disabuse anyone misled by the cult. The last Winter produced a record amount of snow – it is not included in the chart below.

    Northern hemisphere snow cover trending upward since 1967 (April 2020)

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  223. GeeBee says:
    @Mefobills

    The average person is unable to comprehend things because they are gas-lit, which is why I take some time out of my day to blog here and teach. I don’t have to do it.

    I can assure you that your efforts are enormously appreciated. It is clear (and also amusing) that those reading your remarkable oeuvre fall mostly into two categories: those of us who learn and are grateful, and those whose brains are thrown into utter turmoil, with red lights flashing, alarm bells clanging and error messages like ‘cannot compute’ zinging across their consciousness. These latter then proceed to make themselves look like fools by hurling insults and attempting ridiculous counter ‘arguments’. Great sport!

    Do please keep it up! (Confession: when you first started commenting here, I was so impressed that I started a Word document in which I copied and pasted many of your more startling insights. I still look back at it from time to time, but by now I have learned so much that I’ve more or less ‘got it’. We can always learn, even when – in my case – we are well turned sixty).

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  224. Alfred says:
    @Schuetze

    But we are talking about Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Czechia, Slovakia and Bulgaria have thrown out Russian diplomats due to Russian behavior.

    It is easy enough for the Americans to control all of Europe – except Belarus. They set up the European Union and put unelected people at the top. The “parliament” of the EU is a fiction. That way, the Americans need only bribe or blackmail a handful of people and control over 30 countries (including those dreaming of entry).

    As soon as the EU breaks up – the Euro will go first – all these vassals will regain their independence and the Americans will no longer be able to coerce them into the Czech-like nonsense about the Russians blowing up a munitions store 14 years ago.

    It has been 46 years since the evacuation of the US Embassy in Saigon. Not since then have US forces under the direction of the State Department suffered such a defeat in the face of superior defending military force. Until these days.

    The Bornholm operation in the Baltic Sea on March 29-31; the Donbass disengagement announced on April 1 by Ukrainian chief of the general staff, Ruslan Khomchak; then the Black Sea mission-abort of the USS Donald Cook and USS Roosevelt on April 14 – this has been a three-front defeat of the Secretary of State Antony Blinken and his Under Secretary for war against Russia, Victoria Nuland (née Nudelman), and their Polish and Ukrainian proxies.


    No Russian shot has been fired; no Russian life lost. Marshal Mikhail Kutuzov’s golden bridge strategy has allowed the adversary to make an orderly retreat from the Russian red line.

    The Blin-Noodle Gang (Blinken-Nudelman) Sinks From The Baltic To Black Sea And The Shores Of Tripoli

    • Thanks: Robjil
  225. @BT

    Well said

    Yup Russia is currently on a slow but certain decline,all the metrics show this,but its only childish Putin fan boys in the west who actually can’t see this

    Once Putin has gone then what????

  226. GeeBee says:
    @Avery

    Had Hitler satisfied himself with Austria and Sudetenland – to which both UK and Frances agreed to at Munich – Germany today would be a proud, independent nation of its indigenous German people. Instead of being a vassal of Globo-Sorosistas and under the jackboot of Anglo-Americans, and being flooded with millions of non-German Muslims – courtesy of Globo-Sorosistas

    I fear that, just like the great majority of the propagandised population of the West today, you are not factoring in the crucial cause of WWII: the absolute determination of the Western powers, in thrall as they already were to the (((Financial International))), to do away with an existential threat to their usury and exploitation that had suddenly – and against all expectations – risen up in a land that was slated by the victors of WWI for Bolshevik – and thus Financial International-compliant – control. All was going well post-1918, until a young ex-corporal in the German Infantry appeared on the scene. Already on this thread we have seen enough simplistic comments from other equally brainwashed individuals, who cannot and will not dare to raise their heads above the parapet of propaganda and glimpse the appalling truth: that they have been lied to all their lives, and that their cherished worldview is very likely a 180-degree version of reality.

    Unsurprisingly, there are very few who have the necessary mental courage to confront this sort of thing. We see this in the tone of their comments in this very thread: name-calling, insults, simplistic and facile ‘assessments’ of Adolf Hitler’s character, mental state and judgement. They absolutely need to have that man turn out to be just as they have always been told: an evil tyrant who shall forever sit atop the very pinnacle of human demonology, in order for them to preserve their sanity.

    Let me repeat once again: Hitler and Mussolini had grasped what Jews were up to. They had seen the callousness they displayed to ‘mere goyim’. They understood the vast network of usury, swindling, extortion and parasitism that was afoot. FDR and his (((government))) knew full well that unless the new and remarkable system of Judenfrei economics, that had been devised and introduced by the genius of Gustave Feder and Hjalmar Schacht, under the determination of Hitler to be rid of the awful system that had laid waste to the Weimar Republic, was got rid of, it would spread over the world like some fearful cancer and destroy them. A benign cancer, so far as the ordinary people of Europe and America were concerned. But one that would spell the end of the vampire squid that had sat upon the face of Western nations, sucking dry its life-blood.

    All talk of ‘Hitler contenting himself with Austria and the Sudetenland’ and suchlike is utterly redundant: the ‘Allies’ were determined to have their war and destroy the Axis come what may, and the ‘war guarantee’ given by Britain to the corrupt and arrogant Polish junta was not so much a foolish blunder but rather a sure-fire method of ‘justifying’ their declaring war on Germany and thus getting the scheme to destroy this existential threat afoot.

    Until and unless the truth about these things is confronted, there will be no end to the vile rape of all that we hold dear; to the pollution of our lands and the reign of madness and ugliness that blights them with the very things you single out, such as Soros’ schemes to destroy our culture and flood us with Muslims. Let us think on these things and let us learn. Above all, take courage!

  227. Alfred says:
    @FB

    I agree with much of your thesis. The sad reality is that conventional oil production peaked in 2005. A modern economy requires an EROEI of 10+. Fracking is nowhere near that at perhaps 2.

    The automation that you refer to requires massive amounts of cheap energy. It will not happen. I don’t mean that currently highly-automated factories will go back to more labour intensive modes of production. I mean that car production will gradually taper off.

    I agree with Gail Tverberg that consumers will not be able to afford the price of oil necessary for oil companies to invest. Most oil will remain in the ground. ourfiniteworld.com

    However, I totally disagree with what she has to say about things that she does not understand such as the fake Global Warming and CO2 nonsense. Her writings on Covid are also nonsense – like those of our illustrious host. 🙂

    The current elites are fully aware of the energy crisis and that is why they are trying to reduce economic activity – especially travel and commuting.

    Martin Armstrong’s computer forecasts that their efforts will fail – they are already starting to fail. I look forward to the day when Blackrock and many others will break up into much smaller pieces – a bit like the USSR.

    The Civil War is Coming Globally

  228. Timbo says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    I have also wondered why Russia (and China for that matter) have not exposed a principal crime of how the US and the Europeans have responded to the COVID fiasco and taken a different path: it is a treatable disease using ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine and other drugs so 75%-80% of the deaths were preventable, according to many clinical trials of these drugs in other countries. Russia seems bent on vaccinating all their citizens (no doubt, health passport and global ID coming soon) rather than saving them from needless deaths (unless I missed something–I’d be delighted to be wrong). This indicates they may be in on the global tyranny that we the people better wake up soon and prevent.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    , @Uncoy
  229. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Good morning Mumble-brain.

    You admit it yourself in your comment, though not in so many words: The Earths climate has never been “stable” in the entire history of the planet.

    It is important because it was the relative climate stability of the Holocene that allowed the present Earth human population, and ‘civilization’ to arise, particularly through agricultural productivity.

    Don’t tell me, let me guess, you thought that”relative climate stability” would last for ever, despite all evidence to the contrary?
    The climate alarmism that you promote gives you and your similarly deluded globalist colegues an opportunity to brow-beat humanity into accepting life in environmentally devestating monstrocities – densly packed, completely controlled, stack-em and pack-em urban shitholes – whilst the corpratocracy rapes the “rewilded” countryside for rare earth mineral to power those “smart” cities… oh, and for power and profit of course. And shall we talk about their plans for future “food” production to feed the imprisoned masses, or shall we pretend that the economic, social and environmental impacts of genetically altered and synthetic “food” is inconsequential..??

    All of which may be possible only as long as you ignore, maginalise and deplatform all scientific evidence which bring your pet theory into question. Because questioning “THE science” might upset the plans of the billionair class for global-governance and absolute control of the entire planet.

    And, please, don’t label your banal idiocies as ‘nuanced’-they are the exact opposite of subtle.

    Ah, but I didn’t, Mumble-brain. I simply used irony and sarcasm to highlight the ridiculousness of your pet theory, as well as your unfortunate use of the word “denier” to delegitimise the vast array of arguments which counter your far-fetched claims, so to enable the technocratic global-governance which will remove all notions of individual freedom from all but the carpet-bagger-come-billionair “elites”.

    Next time you want to call others “idiotic” because they aren’t falling for the distortions of reality promoted by big-tech-billionairs, to take effective ownership of the entire planet and all life on it into their own hands, maybe you should pause and take a long look in the mirror first.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  230. Alfred says:

    Russia seems bent on vaccinating all their citizens (no doubt, health passport and global ID coming soon)

    The Russian vaccine is a real vaccine – not like the mRNA vaccines of the West. No one is obliged to get vaccinated. There is no question of vaccine passports and such nonsense. The Russians have had an experience of totalitarianism that is relatively recent. The British have forgotten all about Cromwell and what went on at that time. The Americans have never experienced it.

    I suspect that the Russian vaccines are for different types of influenza – which explains how they were quickly rolled out.

    Below is today’s data for Russia. The alleged deaths due to Covid is 0.05% of the population (one in 1900 people). Almost all of them either elderly and/or sick individuals. To put matters in perspective, on a normal day, 5,700 Russians die.

    Everything is open in Moscow – concerts, movies, restaurants, flights, trains, metro, vacations etc. No masks and such nonsense – except for the Covidiots.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride, Kali
  231. @Alfred

    Well!
    Actually winter before I did shovel my drive way four time. The fifth time The neighbor came over to help me with his snow blower. This winter I did shovel my drive way only once.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  232. @FB

    I pity them. It must have been hell-on-earth living every day of your life as a lie.

    • Agree: FB
  233. @Timbo

    This indicates they may be in on the global tyranny that we the people better wake up soon and prevent.

    Indeed.
    Perhaps an increasing number of those who take an informed (as much as possible) view of current events hope that we are wrong about Putin/Xi in that the posturing by the comically inept US “leadership” is not just cartoon-standard theater, carried on with their acquiescence in some sort of global Rothschild end-game.

    I have just read Ron Unz https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/?showcomments# as history is a continuum and what stands out is the way that dissenting voices in academia and politics to multicult marxism have been/are today marginalised and silenced in the “Free West”.

    That alone is a disturbing picture, plus the possibility of the Mossad’s slogan of making war by deception on a global scale even more so.
    Let us hope it is not so, as you say.

  234. @A.K.Patal

    1) if the oligarchs and the globalists could starve Russia, wouldn’t they? Yes, they would have. 2) If they could kick Mr. Putin out of power, wouldn’t they? Of course they would have.

    Mr Patal: There are many who think it IS the globalist’s plan to starve most of the world, or depopulate it by other means. The (((globalists))) lie all the time. The things they SAY they care for, they obviously despise. So why do you assume that the things they claim to Despise are actually their foes?

    I hope you realize that what you posted are what if statements that there is NO WAY to know the answer to, and they are, in any case, entirely hypothetical, and basically irrelevant. What I posted, on the other hand, were FACTS. ACTUAL policies of the Russian government.

    You should see that while their is inflammatory rhetoric, and certainly some differences, The ACTUAL policies of Putin & Russia share much common ground with the great reset agenda. Your comment amounts to wishful thinking on your part, and the (false) assumption that rhetoric and silly what if’s should trump Actions, and Reality.

  235. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Russia is NOT the USA, or even France.

    Please find the one who said it was…

    These measures, instituted in a country ruled by its Government, in the interests of the many, not the blood-sucking oligarch few, are entirely different from the planned changes in the West.

    I just listed many things that ARE Russian policies, and also features of the GREAT RESET agenda. saying they are entirely different is silly, there is a huge amount of overlap. And you should be smart enough to see that these things are dressed up as “in the interests of the many” but are IN FACT to the benefit of the blood-sucking oligarchs.

  236. Alfred says:
    @Zarathustra

    This winter I did shovel my drive way only once.

    Bully for you! I have no idea where you are so here is some recent data for the USA and the southern hemisphere (Africa and Australia). Data your lying MSM hides from you. You can be sure that if the converse were the case, the MSM would be shouting loud. 🙂

    According to unofficial data compiled by coolwx.com, thousands of new low temperature records fell across the United States this past week (from April 19 to April 26) — an embarrassment of riches for the cold hunters, and just a flat-out embarrassment for the proponents of AGW.

    Over the Past 7 Days, Thousands of Low Temperature Records Fell Across the United States (April 21, 2021)

    The global warming narrative is collapsing like a flan in a cupboard. The serial prevaricators are leading the parroting masses ever-closer to that cliff edge, to that ground-shaking revelation that what they’ve been fed for the past four decades isn’t science, but is instead a pile of policy-driving hooey.

    Winter Arrives Early across the Southern Hemisphere (April 21, 2001)

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  237. FB says: • Website
    @Schuetze

    What an absolutely remarkable idiot you are.

    May Day is on May 1, and is a public holiday in many countries, going back centuries.

    It is an ancient festival of spring[1] and a current traditional spring holiday in many European cultures. Dances, singing, and cake are usually part of the festivities.

    Nearly every European country has a May Day tradition:

    May Day has been celebrated in Ireland since pagan times as the feast of Beltane (Bealtaine) and in latter times as Mary’s day.

    In Italy it is called Calendimaggio or cantar maggio a seasonal feast held to celebrate the arrival of spring.

    In the Rhineland, 1 May is also celebrated by the delivery of a maypole, a tree covered in streamers to the house of a girl the night before…the Third Reich declared 1 May a “national workers’ day” in 1933.

    In Finland, Walpurgis night (Vappu) (“Vappen”) is one of the four biggest holidays along with Christmas Eve, New Year’s Eve, and Midsummer (Juhannus – Midsommar).

    May Day has never had anything to do with Victory Day, on May 9, which is when Nazi Germany surrendered in 1945.

    Absolutely amazing that in this day and age, with info at your fingertips, we can have such complete imbeciles.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Zarathustra
  238. @Mefobills

    This is what I am very curious about.
    I would like to see Russia go through ‘the grind’of climbing up the economic ladder.
    They have the geographical position to be a major pork producer for Asia. Sanctions made them produce their own cheeses as well. There has been some very important work in hybridyzing certain crops that grow in shorter season-cold climates. I believe that these are a type of oil seed that will meet increased world demand for frying oils.
    Russia should become a massive, powerhouse industrial economy. I agree with the content of Putin’s speech as he spent most of the time outlining social programs that are critical to the country moving forward. I think that the most important thing they can do is recover demographically from the 20th century.
    It will probably continue to be a grind given that there are no agenda-free sources of investment finance for Russia that I am aware of.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  239. AReply says:

    //Back to realpolitik, Putin once again had to stress the “special responsibility” of the “five nuclear states” to seriously discuss “issues related to strategic armament”. It’s an open question whether the Biden-Harris administration – behind which stand a toxic cocktail of neo-cons and humanitarian imperialists – will agree.//

    “Behind which” read Republicans

    Biden / Harris are our Republican inheritance, The Bush’s neocons all herald previous Republican administrations.

    You might wonder: what about the Democrats? They were famously murdered in the 60s. In every domain of American life and policy there is the Republican spectre, and Republican hobgoblins scurry energetically today and shape the course of the nation.

    “Marxists” however you want to ascribe meaning to this pleonasm of a cultural designator have nothing to do with running America, and the jargon itself is a Republican reaction-formation.

    What are Republicans? The late 20th century product and embodiment of white conservatism.

    So what is going on here at Unz: Sewing circle of ex-Republican dry-drunks whose livers won’t take no more, but due cauterized brains can’t talk about nothing but the old-timey days runnin’ that good hooch.

  240. GeeBee says:
    @Smith

    It is a very complex subject, and one that left Hitler with a choice between muck of nettles (as we say in Yorkshire). Once one has grasped the undoubtable fact that Stalin would have invaded Europe and probably not stopped until he reached the English Channel – the preparations for which appear to have been so advanced that the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS, together with armies from a dozen other nations, found themselves striking at tight formations which – as anyone with military knowledge knows – means they were massed for attack, which means in turn, strange to relate, that they are more vulnerable to an attack on their own formations at that crucial time. Thus Hitler’s only chance was to strike first – and had it not been for the Russian winter appearing earlier than ever in living memory, he would almost certainly have beaten Stalin outright. Not so mad as it seems, when one bears in mind these two facts.

    The Americans were utterly determined to destroy Hitler’s wonderful economic miracle, and they were supporting Russia because they knew the risk of not doing so. (My own father was in the Royal Navy escorting the American convoys during the war, as a lad of just seventeen and a half when he joined up.) Germany would have been defeated one way or another, irrespective of Operation Barbarossa.

    • Replies: @Smith
  241. Malla says:
    @Parbes

    Hitler’s attack was a pre-emptive strike. There were Soviet troops massing up at the border. Also Molotov’s four demands which included Romania from where Germany’s oil came from.

    • Thanks: Kali
    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @Parbes
    , @Bronek
  242. Schuetze says:
    @FB

    What a dolt you are. May is the 5th month of the year. It it has been that way for centuries. Day is the time it takes for the earth to rotate once. May Day has many different meanings, as you so crudely illustrated. Search engines take a query and point you to their closest translation. If you type “May Day Parade Moscow” as I prepared for you, it takes you to the “Victory Day” parade in Moscow. That is the best translation for that query as determined by Google and Duck Duck Go. I set it up for you, but you are such a pompous ass you could not even bother to click on it before you shat in your pants in ecstasy and started ankle biting me. If you cannot even figure out how to click on a hyperlink when one is stuck under your nose, or are too lazy to even do that, then you must be a completely useless communist useful idiot.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  243. Mefobills says:
    @Smith

    PCR is constantly advocating for Putin to invade the Donbass, or take Ukraine.

    I’m of the opinion that the forces arrayed against today’s Russia are similar to what Germany was afflicted with. Germany probably had even greater forces of empire directed against it than today’s Russia, as NSDAP Germany was surrounded.

    Putin uses Judo leverage moves, so he resets the chessboard. Putin also is effective at changing the hearts and minds of erstwhile enemies, and gains friends.

    Invading Ukraine or the Donbass as PCR recommends would make Russia fall into the same trap that Hitler fell into.

    Hitler no doubt was under pressure from hot-heads within his administration, and finally relented – a big mistake.

  244. Washington is going to walk back with its tail between its legs. It should get ready for more beatdowns and humiliations coming its way.

  245. Mefobills says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    I think that the most important thing they can do is recover demographically from the 20th century.

    There are ways to do that, as today’s Hungary has shown. Hungary is having a baby boom.

    Russia is not doing enough to let women return to the home-life.

    Women need to feel secure and have a nest, along with a visible improving future, before they open their legs.

    Let’s rewrite that – K selected women (whites and asians).

    I grind my teeth when Putin doesn’t listen to Sergey Glazyev of the Stolypin Group, as all the answers Putin needs are in Sergey’s brain. The Stolypin group is analogous to the excellent team that Hitler had in Reinhardt and Schacht, and to the early work of Federer.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Glazyev

    To give an idea of how much of a threat Sergey is:

    On March 17, 2014, a day after the Crimean status referendum, Glazyev was one of the first seven persons who were placed under executive sanctions by President Obama. The sanctions froze his assets in the US and banned him from entering the United States.[5] However, according to Glazyev, he has not been negatively affected by these sanctions because he has neither property nor accounts of any sort in the United States, nor had he any plans to come to America.[6]

    • Thanks: Luus Kanin
  246. Defender says:

    Putin may not be a Jew but he likes shekels just as much.

    I used to like him once but now believe he is just like all the others regurgitating the same old OFFICAL lines. He still believes ten Arabs brought down three buildings in New York.

    • Thanks: stevennonemaker88
  247. FB says: • Website
    @Anon

    Do you anticipate any way of diffusing the situation without major conflict…?

    I doubt that the Ukraine situation will lead to any major conflict. Nobody in Germany or France is interested in an actual shooting war with Russia, which would be world war 3. Those countries, and Europe in general, have a lot of problems as it is. So any actual shots fired would involve only the US and possibly UK.

    Even so, I doubt that their military professionals would seriously consider such a dangerous and risky course, even if the insane political class is willing. The military reality is just not there. I discussed a few of the technical issues in a recent comment on another thread, here.

    A ground war is for sure out of the question. I would say Nato would do nothing even if Russia did invade the Baltic countries, for instance, which have sizable Russian minorities who are being badly mistreated. [Although there is really zero chance that Russia is interested in attacking anyone]. Being in Nato doesn’t mean what those little countries think it means.

    And what about an air war, along the lines of the US-led Nato air war against Serbia in 1999?

    Well, that didn’t turn out nearly as well as expected, considering the miniscule power of Serbia. The US does have a lot of combat aircraft, far more than Russia, but even with combined air power of the major Nato countries, it is not enough to overcome Russian defenses. Nato aircraft losses would be huge, which would severely tarnish the ‘fearsome’ image of western air power that the alliance has been projecting. I would say it would end in nothing less than disaster for the west [and military folks are well aware of that math].

    Putin has specifically addressed the Nato air threat, stating point-blank that Russia would destroy Nato airfields BEFORE they could muster their aircraft for an attack. That is a credible warning, since Russia, unlike Nato, does possess standoff missiles, including hypersonic, that could accomplish the task. In other words, Russia is not going to wait and watch the US bring in an invasion force of dozens or even hundreds of aircraft near its borders. It will act decisively as soon as it sees such a threatening buildup.

    I really do not see any possibility of the US general staff making any such military moves against Russia. The only plausible way to attack Russia would be with nuclear strikes, which would also end very badly for the west.

    Consider the calculus of nuclear war, a subject that is highly specialized and almost completely unfamiliar to both the public and media. This is something that top military strategists constantly wrestle with, carefully considering all possibilities and the likelihood of each move and countermove.

    The least likely scenario is for either the US or Russia to launch a massive ICBM salvo out of the blue. Both countries are fully equipped to detect such a launch within seconds, and would respond in kind, almost certainly ending the existence of both belligerents. Obviously that is nothing more than a suicide pact, and would be a last-ditch measure…if that!

    But there are in fact some quite realistic scenarios involving the use of nuclear weapons–smaller ones, known as tactical nukes. For instance the US has publicly made noises about how it has a plan to take out Russia’s Kaliningrad exclave, which is outside of ‘mainland’ Russia and is nestled between the Baltic states and Poland, which are Nato members.

    Here is some typical crazy talk from the US:

    The Pentagon has a plan for destroying the defenses of Russia’s most heavily-armed European outpost, a top U.S. commander said in September 2019.

    USAF Boeing B-52H 60-0024 … took off from Barksdale AFB [on] 2019-03-14 [at] 01:30 Zulu [time], flew over [Canada] and conducted a mock nuclear cruise missile strike on the Russian Federation, only turning around 60 nautical miles from Russian air space [at] 11:10 Zulu, landing at RAF Fairford [at] 13:32 Zulu

    If a War Came, This Is How NATO Would Attack Russia’s Kaliningrad Base

    Obviously this kind of limited nuclear attack, which would certainly cause a lot of damage, is NOT going to prompt the Russian Federation to launch a massive, potentially civilization-ending, ICBM-salvo at the US.

    Instead, they might nuke the British airfields where B52s are based. This is how a nuclear war could very realistically escalate. With each strike, the other side has the option of escalating or de-escalating. That is the chess game that is involved here, and it requires a thorough technical understanding of what the other guy can really do!

    So let’s say at this point, after the RF retaliation, the US decides to escalate further. The answer from the Russians would be an even more forceful attack on the UK, possibly doing huge damage, including great civilian loss of life.

    Does the US at this point go all in? Why would they, when it would only insure their own destruction in that ultimate suicide pact ending? Obviously the opportunity to then back down is far more compelling.

    This is the cold hard reality of sacrificial pawns. The idea of buffer zones has long been a fixture in great power conflicts. That’s the ONLY reason you have buffer zones, so you can ultimately sacrifice them if the need arises. The ultimate goal being to protect YOURSELF!

    This is a military ‘secret’ that is very real, yet kept completely out of the public consciousness. A war with Russia, even a nuclear one, would likely end with the destruction of Europe, primarily Britain, after which things would almost certainly subside.

    In any case, none of that is likely to start. The main reason being the military parity that would ensure each side would be badly pummeled. The US may be crazy, particularly the neocon elements which have a visceral hate for Russia. But there are also military professionals who actually understand the nuts and bolts, and they are not going to do something crazy.

    The main use of the US military has been to enforce their global dollar empire, by beating up on defenseless small powers like Iraq and Libya and Serbia. Even Iran is too tough a nut to be realistically attacked, as we saw with the US stand-down after the Iran rocket attacks on US bases last year.

    The Army officer described the feeling of the missiles crashing down around him “like a freight train going by you” and said that, in his opinion, “nobody should’ve lived through this.” His comments align closely with those from U.S. Air Force personnel at Al Asad during the strikes. That service released a compendium of personal stories from survivors of the strikes last year.

    “No one quite understood the magnitude of what we might be facing,” Air Force Captain Adella Ramos, head of 443rd’s Airfield Operations Flight, also said. “But as the night carried on, there was an unspoken understanding that this might be it. We might not live through this.”

    Fortunately for US military personnel, Iran had telegraphed its intentions, allowing the US to evacuate hours before the strikes.

    U.S. Marine Corps General Frank McKenzie, head of CENTCOM, said he waited until intelligence told him the Iranians had downloaded their last commercial image of the base for the day before beginning evacuations and the movement of equipment. In doing so, they severely disrupted the effectiveness of the Iranian attack and likely saved many lives and lots of equipment in the process.

    Everything New We Just Learned About The 2020 Iranian Missile Attack On U.S. Forces In Iraq

    So no, there is not going to be any kind of US or Nato ‘war’ against Russia. That was never on the table. What the zombie Biden team is doing is simply trying to stir up trouble with their silly Ukrainian puppets.

    Of course, Putin quickly poured cold water on the whole thing by making it very clear that a Ukrainian genocidal attack against the people of Donbas, many of whom are Russian citizens, would mean the end of this troublesome country. Shoigu’s show of force was impressive: No less than two full armies [nearly 200,000 men], a couple of airborne divisions, amphibious landing craft in the Black Sea…it was enough to send a firm message.

  248. @FB

    We did that (erecting the tree.) And when the girl was arrogant we put empty cans hanging such way that when was a little wind the cans would rattle.

  249. Vidi says:
    @Critic

    The events unfolded as follows. Russia crumbled under the US pressure.

    The US was mostly healthy then.

    America, despite the propaganda of the adversaries, is still the “Shere Khan” in a world full of jackals.

    America’s fur now looks thin and ragged. This Shere Khan has mange, an often fatal illness.

  250. Anonymous[452] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    Very informing as always especially the “It’s for the simple greed and exploiting ordinary workers and families that we are at where we are now’ and of course that’s the entire history of the country some say it was set up that way from the beginning which I have no doubts of…

    • Thanks: FB
  251. @FB

    Brilliant comment. Tully remarkable error less evaluation.

    • Thanks: FB
  252. @Alfred

    Please !!!!!!!!
    Go on RT and find there article about those holes in Russian tundra and read it.
    Permafrost in Russian Tundra is thawing
    For that simply cannot be other explanation than gradual increase of Earth Enthalpia (thermal content). Which means our planet is warming up

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @Alfred
  253. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Avery

    You make some very good points, which highlight for me a very important gap in my own reading: Mein Kamp! (It just went straight to the top of my reading list. Thank you.)
    —————————————————————–

    You know, what that W. Bush aid said was said is almost right:

    “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” [Taken from https://theweek.com/articles/854892/what-karl-rove-right-about-realitybased-community which I just found on searching for this quote…. looks like an interesting read…]

    [MORE]

    He underestimates our ability to simultaniously “parse” (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/parse%5D history/histography and see exactly where we are right now in the unfoldment of this particular story. And what lies ahead of us “on the chessboard” if you will.

    And that gives us, every single one of us who “gets it”, AGENCY. (Including to change the game.)
    And that means we get to shape a new reality on our own terms… or die. (Though ultimately we get to die regardless, so that’s kind of moot),

    Those of us who survive the dying throws of ((the aglo-zionist empire)) will step into the future with crystal clarity; clarity to compliment our natural immunity ;immunity to all of the various pathalogies or pathogens which may take others. And we’ll be older and wiser. And the young amongst us will be stronger, more able, and MUCH better informed. (How’s that for “natural selection”? lol)

    Consider also that many, many and yet more people all over Europe, and I dare say all over which ever continent you happen to be on, have been practicing self-sufficiency, “prepping” and other far-sighted activities (“survivalism”?), since we became aware (cognisant) of the fact that we were being governed by monsters. Even before we knew it may be written “((monsters))”).

    Non-sequeture (sp?):

    Every single last one of us is dealing with some serious karmic shit right this very moment. – (I’d bet the house on that if I lived in a house!) Now we either transmute/transcend that karma, or we pass it on into the future, on the back of every injustice we inflict upon any other, Which would means “We” loose.

    So that means it’s time for us to get real!
    To be honest with ourselves.
    “Who am I” is all any one truly needs to know.
    (Hints: you are not your culture, not your religion, not your title, not your career and you are not your name. Etcetera.)

    One who knows himself/herself can never be mastered by another.

    (Forgive my veering way off topic, Pepe Escobar. I’lll insert a ‘more’ tag.)

  254. @Schuetze

    Russians celebrate May Day on May 1st, and Victory Day on May 9th. Other than occurring in the same month, the two have no connection with one another.

  255. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Mefobills

    Yes, Hitler could take some lessons from Putin. The analogy is apt as Russia is being demonized and attacked. History doesn’t repeat but it rhymes.

    More: Putin almost certainly has taken some lessons from Hitler.

  256. @GeeBee

    Until and unless the truth about these things is confronted, there will be no end to the vile rape of all that we hold dear;

    This is of course true and such confrontation must itself depend on a sound basis of truth, in this case about National Socialism/economics that produced the amazing transformation of a Germany wrecked and despoiled by WW1/Versailles/Weimar to a prosperous debt-free nation in just a few short years.
    One cannot arrive at informed truth without study of the pertinent documents and the outcomes they produced.
    The reader might start with this short text —

    Gottfried Feder’s Manifesto for Breaking the Financial Slavery to Interest is one of a series of three books by the important, albeit now obscure German campaigner against parasitic debt-finance-capitalism.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  257. @Arthur MacBride

    A quick PS to show how vital Feder’s economic theory was to the founding and basis of the NSDAP, an excerpt from Mein Kampf

    P 401 8.2 TWO TYPES OF CAPITAL

    Previously, I didn’t clearly recognize the difference between capital that is purely the product of creative labor, and capital that is exclusively the result of financial speculation. Here I needed an inspiration to set my mind thinking in this direction; but that impulse had not appeared.

    The necessary inspiration now came from one of the men who lectured in the course I mentioned earlier. This was Gottfried Feder.

    https://carolynyeager.net/adolf-hitler-discovering-gottfried-feder

    Of course it wasn’t all economics, “the dismal science” lol, but Hitler shows in this brief passage how his outlook changed from near despair at this “inspiration”.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
  258. @Alfred

    1- The non entry into space of Alan Shepard – his vehicle traveled around 250 miles.
    2- The fake moon landings. The Soviets returned the Apollo 13 capsule to the Americans in Murmansk.
    3- The true perpetrators of 9/11.
    4- The false role attributed to CO2.
    5- The Renewable Energy falsehoods.
    6- The Global warming scam.
    7- The existence of a Covid-19 virus.
    8- The necessity for lockdowns.
    9- The efficacity of masks.
    10- The need to close borders.
    11- The effectiveness of the fake PCR test.

    Ouhlala, une liste à la Prévert!

    I agree with 1, 2, 3 & 5, disagree with the rest. You need some education on palaeoclimatology to understand the role of the CO2.

    You can start here:

    About the coronavirus, compare the data of somes countries like NZ, Korea, China, Vietnam, etc. with those of the eu countries…

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  259. @Olivier1973

    Well said, but what is your problem with 5?

  260. Smith says:
    @GeeBee

    Hitler made a decision, and that’s playing balls with the brits and attack the russian, who have more in common with them than the anglo-saxon merchants.

    In retrospect, Hitler could be said to be an useful idiot who lost his chance. Just like Napoleon, they both purposely started shit with the other continental power instead of finishing the cancer that is London – Britain.

    And the whole Stalin attacking Europe is a bold face lie, Stalin himself had problems taking on Finland, and at the time was having trouble with his own officers, and he was ambivalent on Hitler, seeing they are both pragmatic and independent rulers. But Hitler messed this all up because he thought the anglo-saxon across the channel as his “brothers”.

    The people who continue who defend Hitler’s most tremendous mistake will always wander in the cave instead of finding better solutions.

  261. @FB

    US nukes on Kaliningrad would lead to full-scale thermo-nuclear war, and consequent human extinction, within hours. It is becoming more likely as the ‘Four’ Eyes (NZ is now loudly denounced here as ‘treacherous’ because they refuse to go along with the insanely vicious campaign of race-hatred against China)leadership goes barking mad. Always Evil, they have added rank insanity to the brew,

  262. This world is a clown show. On so many levels every country follows the same script. They all dress up their Generals and parade their soldiers back and forth. While they’re busy with co-operative scams like foriegn policy, NASA and WHO, which are just ways to launder tax money, have been adopted by every nation with a respectable population, meaning a population that can pay taxes. As they’re busy pretending to be mad at one another, they hold their laughs until they get together for their special G7, G20, UN, Davos etc., lounge at 10 star hotels, and all on the working man’s dime. I’d take Putin over Trump or Biden any day, but they all work for the system: for the bankers, the Black Rocks’, et al. And who does Black Rock et al work for? The same old European money families. George Carlin had it wrong. It’s a small club.

  263. @Zarathustra

    In the last 200 years to oceans have sequestered 150 zettajoules (ten to the 21st power)of energy, thanks to greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. That GUARANTEES millennia of climate instability. We are rooted. The denialist scum won.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  264. @FB

    I always find it funny that so many retarded anons think Russia or China would do nothing and watch a US military build up near their borders. They actually think Russia or China is the same as Iraq.

    There are so many retards.

    • Agree: showmethereal
  265. @Rahan

    Both Russia and China increasing their gold holdings has to do with their desire to break free of the US dollar stranglehold.

  266. @FB

    I watched the moon landing on ‘live TV along with my immigrant peasant grandfather. When Armstrong stepped off the ladder, my grandfather jumped up and shouted these famous words: “that’s a bullshit. Prove it throw a rock down.”
    My story is true. The same can not be said of NASA’s. Never A Straight Answer.

    • LOL: Arthur MacBride
  267. Levtraro says:
    @Malla

    Hitler’s attack was a pre-emptive strike. There were Soviet troops massing up at the border.

    And we know how that worked: the Führer got a bullet in his head, all German women west of Berlin were raped by Russians, and Germany was destroyed as a proud military nation. How waiting for the Soviet invasion was not a better option?

  268. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    Obviously this kind of limited nuclear attack, which would certainly cause a lot of damage, is NOT going to prompt the Russian Federation to launch a massive, potentially civilization-ending, ICBM-salvo at the US.

    I disagree. If you are thinking like this, with your gradual escalation theory that leaves the USA nearly unharmed and Europe and Russia badly damaged, and this logic is in fact what NATO military are assuming, then the logic in Russia would be to launch a complete destruction of the USA as a surprise counter-attack. After Kaliningrad, NATO would be waiting for the gradual escalation in the UK as you assume, but they would get a massive nuclear strike in the USA. Do you think European NATO states would join the war after that? Likewise, NATO would not just attack Kaliningrad and then wait for the slightly disproportionate Russian response. Perhaps I misunderstood you but it seems to me any war between nuclear states will escalate exponentially fast to total annihilation of the enemy.

    • Replies: @FB
  269. GeeBee says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Well said. It is vital, as we both say, that more people come to know the real reason the Allies were so determined to wage war on Germany. All the depressingly recalcitrant belief in the propaganda – the ‘excuses’ that were manufactured out of thin air, especially that of ‘Nazi atrocities’ – must be corrected, and replaced in the public mind by the reality of that horrendous and criminal conflict being little more than America’s first and most inglorious ‘regime change’ operation, whose purpose was to maintain the dominance of the (((Financial International))), establishing as it did so American hegemony by casting the British Empire into the dust. Both points duly ticked by 1945, and at the cost of countless millions of innocent lives lost thanks to FDR, Churchill and their (((handlers))). As the late, great Revilo P Oliver put it back in 1968:

    In the years after the war had ended I felt certain that the secrets of Washington would quickly become known and that our nation would be swept with moral indignation and revulsion when Americans saw exposed to the light of day even a small part of the foul record of the diseased creature that had squatted in the White House for so many years, surrounded by his appalling gang of degenerates, traitors, and alien subversives.

    But back then I still believed that there was a significant intellectual difference between the American public and those beasts one sees staring down from between the slats in hig sided vehicles, contentedly munching hay on their way to the slaughterhouse.

    (Oliver had led an important and top-secret team of 200 agents and intelligence analysts during the war, attached to the White House. He therefore knew whereof he spoke.)

    I also ought to apologise for somehow o’er hastily calling Feder ‘Gustave’ instead of Gottfried. I can’t imagine how, but there we are!

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  270. Alfred says:
    @Zarathustra

    Go on RT and find there article about those holes in Russian tundra and read it.
    Permafrost in Russian Tundra is thawing

    Have we been driving cars for 7000 years? 🙂

    Study: Siberian permafrost has been warming for 7000 years

    Sadly, cold is returning even in Siberia.

    Temperatures plummet to minus 73 in Siberia
    The Russian city of Yakutsk is in the midst of an abnormally long period of harsh subzero temperatures. (January 2021)

  271. Parbes says:
    @Malla

    No, it wasn’t. Quit regurgitating neo-Nazi revisionist history garbage pretending that you’re some kind of World War II European theater military expert – as an Indian, it makes you look really ridiculous. Massing troops near the border on your own territory doesn’t automatically mean you’re planning to attack – most of the time, it’s actually a DEFENSIVE move against a known, probable aggressor (as was true in this case). Stalin did everything he could to avert war with Nazi Germany, up to agreeing to divide Poland, just to try to create a buffer between the Nazis and the Soviet Union. In fact, he deluded himself so much that he had reached an agreement with them preventing a war, that he was initially shocked and paralyzed when the first news of the Nazi armies crossing the border arrived, as many first-hand sources attest. Hitler and his Nazis were motivated by the ideology of “untermenschen” Slavs and Russians, “lebensraum” for the slated-to-aggressively-expand German nation, and “drang nach osten” meaning expansion to the East, and, of course, fanatical militant anti-communism – all of which had been known by everybody for over a decade. Plus, by that time, Hitler had ALREADY attacked and overrun several European countries.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Levtraro
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  272. Avery says:
    @Parbes

    {“In fact, he deluded himself so much that he had reached an agreement with them preventing a war, that he was initially shocked and paralyzed”}

    Quite true.

    When the first reports of the invasion started coming to Stalin, he forbade his frontline generals to open fire on the invading troops. He was so convinced that he had an ironclad non-aggression pact with Hitler, that he considered those initial attacks ‘provocations’ , deigned to get USSR and Nazi Germany into a war (…by parties unknown). He was desperate to avoid a war Nazi Germany.

    I remember watching a Youtube vid by Anastas Mikoyan’s son. He was relating what his father had told him. It’s exactly as you wrote: after Stalin realized that this was no provocation, but the Real McCoy, he went into a shock, and hid in his room: incommunicado. For about a week or so. Frontline generals were pleading for permission to withdraw in good order, but no one dared to allow it without Stalin’s permission. Entire Soviet armies were cut off and annihilated, awaiting orders from the Kremlin.

    Finally Marshal Zhukov dared to open Stalin’s door and go in to shake him out of his paralysis. By that time the damage to the Red Army was already catastrophic.

    • Replies: @Malla
  273. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Thank you.
    The denialist did not win. Who will win will be confirmed by new reality. The planet warming is confirmed by thawing of permafrost in Russian Tundra that is simply undeniable.
    The theory of reason why it is happening took me a months of brainstorming until I have come to the point of “eureka”. But i will not submit my theory just to be lost in Gossip comments. My theory will leave all world in ave.
    I really do need an article which will force everybody talking about Global warming. than i will let it loose my theory on all the professors. The conclusion of theory is that 95% of humanity will die of. But even survivors of 5% is in my opinion questionable. I am not naive. I do know that it looks sensational and absurd, but I will prove it.
    Biden made some suggestion of conference of world leaders on Global warming at the end of April but I do not hear anything now on CNN.

  274. @GeeBee

    Right you are.
    Revilo P Oliver is not alone in his estimate of the moral stature of the average citizen, which has worsened since his day in my humble opinion …

    I often make mistakes in names through over-rapid typing … recently posting on the (probably planned by the author) fatuous nature of Ulysses and wrote the “hero’s” (haha) name as Leonard Bloom instead of Leopold Bloom …
    Hopefully readers will forgive typo’s like that.

    It’s my belief that we have been in an open and more or less continuous war waged by the forces of evil since Herzl’s Declaration in Basel in 1897, not only shooting wars and “revolutions” but also engineered financial peaks and crashes. A friend who works in finance in Berlin says it should have collapsed in 2008 but they again bought off Mr Rothschild … it is again unrealistically bloated and could go at any time, ie when (((they))) pull it …
    Maybe this will not happen soon, or even at all.
    But then again …
    Our criminal “leaders” have put us in this situation.

    The death toll is beyond counting.

  275. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    Okay, I see that I need to flesh out more detail about how nuclear escalation actually works, in terms of military doctrine. And it’s not like you or Mulga imagine.

    I mentioned already that this is a highly specialized subject. It is also highly technical, and the general public simply doesn’t have important knowledge about this subject. In fact, it’s better that they don’t know, especially the public in UK and Europe which are the de facto sacrificial pawns in a very realistic nuclear war. After all, who would want to live their lives knowing they could well be sacrificed?

    First and foremost, there is a huge difference between an ICBM and a tactical nuke, for instance a cruise missile launched from a bomber. A single ICBM rocket with say ten warheads of 500 kilotons carries 5 million tons equivalent of high explosive. That’s nearly double the entire bomb tonnage that was dropped on Europe in WW2, in a single ICBM. A single nuclear sub carries about 16 of those intercontinental-range rockets, more than 20 WW2s worth of destructive power.

    There is no known way to stop an ICBM due to its very high speed, which is almost as fast as orbital speed, about 15,000 mph. Furthermore, the warhead is a very tiny target, being only about a foot in diameter.

    Technicians work on installing W87 thermonuclear warheads [475 kilotons each] on a Minuteman ICBM multi-warhead ‘bus’

    Yes, there is talk about ‘missile-defense’ but would it actually work? The fact that Kim Jong-Un was launching missiles over the heads of the US Pacific Fleet, which is equipped with the Aegis ballistic missile defense system, claimed to be able to shoot down these much slower intermediate-range missiles, tells us those admirals did not have enough confidence in the system to attempt an interception.

    I discuss some of the details of a ballistic trajectory vs hypersonic maneuvering in a recent comment, here.

    Now let’s consider the cruise missile, like the one that is carried on that B52 that made the mock bombing run on Russia in 2019.

    The W80 thermonuclear warhead that is used on all US cruise missiles, both air-launched and sea-launched by subs and surface ships.

    There are many thousands of these kinds of lower-yield bombs in possession by the US and Russia. They are not actually limited by the major treaties that deal with ICBMs. Instead, only the number of carriers, ie aircraft, are counted.

    The yield on that warhead is variable between just 5 and 150 kilotons, called dial-a-yield. Now why do you suppose they would want to lower the explosive power of a warhead? The only reason is because of the calculus of escalation. You want to be able to escalate, but not over-escalate.

    That in itself, tells you that these are in fact DESIGNED TO BE USED!

    It is not a secret, at least among military professionals, that tactical, or ‘battlefield’ nukes are indeed meant to be used. When I was a little boy my father was stationed with the British forces in Bielefeld, West Germany. Part of his responsibility was for the US tactical nukes, that were in British possession, but, crucially, CONTROLLED by the US.

    MGR-1 Honest John rocket, picture probably taken in the 1960s

    This US control of a very dangerous weapon in the hands of British troops was in fact a thorny point of contention in Parliament at the time. Even today, the British nuclear subs are fitted with US Trident missiles.

    Now let’s consider an actual battle plan in Europe, Seven Days to the River Rhine, developed by the Russians during the Cold War.

    Seven Days to the River Rhine [Russian: «Семь дней до реки Рейн», Sem’ dney do reki Reyn] was a top-secret military simulation exercise developed in 1979 by the Warsaw Pact. It depicted the Soviet bloc’s vision of a seven-day nuclear war between NATO and Warsaw Pact forces.

    This battle plan is now public because the Polish government released it in 2005.

    The scenario for the war was NATO launching a nuclear attack on Polish and Czechoslovak cities in the Vistula river valley area in a first-strike scenario, which would prevent Warsaw Pact commanders from sending reinforcements to East Germany to forestall a possible NATO invasion of that country.

    The plan expected that as many as two million Polish civilians would die in such a war and Polish operational strength would be completely destroyed.

    A Soviet nuclear counter-strike would be launched against West Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark and North-East Italy.

    After that, Red Army forces would sweep through Germany and the low countries and take that territory within seven days.

    Now all of this was going to be done with those tactical nukes, on both sides. There is no ‘end of the world within hours’ scenario here. That’s just childish babble.

    Nuclear weapons on a small scale are very usable, which is why you will still hear, occasionally, US generals talking about using those tactical nukes, against Kaliningrad, for instance. And it’s also why you still have those exercise flights by nuclear capable bombers, both US B52s flying toward Russia, and Russian Tu160 and Tu95 heavy bombers buzzing US airspace.

    There is no question that Russian retaliation to US use of tactical nukes, would ALSO involve such tit-for-tat strikes against US targets, using those cruise missiles launched from the heavy bombers, and also cruise missiles, including hypersonic, launched from subs, such as the Zircon scramjet-powered missile.

    Like the US nuclear strikes on Russian territory, these would target military targets within the US. Nobody is saying that the Russia would spare the US in its retaliation. In fact, Putin has stated point-blank that the US would be hit.

    But that does not mean that any ICBMs would be launched. Those are the doomsday weapons. They are in fact civilization-ending. But we need to understand a key technical piece of information here. The launch of ICBMs can be detected instantly because of the huge amount of heat generated by those rocket engines. Both US and Russia have satellites with infrared sensors that will instantly trigger a response launch. Also over-the-horizon radar that would be used to confirm an alert from the sats and track an ICBM salvo in flight.

    The logic here is quite unambiguous. If the other guy has launched the big ICBMs, you MUST launch immediately, otherwise your own ICBMs will be destroyed in their silos. That is the final suicide pact. But as you can see, there are many escalation steps that can and will happen, BEFORE such a final desperation launch is initiated.

    Nothing has changed since the eighties when that Seven Days to the Rhine battle plan was fleshed out, only that the borders have somewhat shifted. But that is mostly meaningless. What counts is what military folks call the ‘order of battle.’ Which is the weaponry and capability that each side has arrayed against the other. And that has NOT changed, except that in fact a nuclear war could be even more manageable than before. That is to say, the escalation can be more finely controlled.

    Let’s consider a what-if scenario with the Ukraine. Direct Nato involvement in any fighting that erupts is going to result in serious escalation by Russia. At first it will be strictly conventional, using long-range cruise and hypersonic missiles to take out Nato command and control centers, including on Nato territory. Again, Putin has spelled that out.

    And let’s say the US does escalate in turn, by attacking Kaliningrad. Only here they have to use those tactical nuclear cruise missiles, because there is no other way to defeat the Russian A2/AD defenses [as I outlined in my previous comment].

    At that point, Russia may indeed escalate by hitting the US military assets in the UK, as I previously outlined. Further escalation will also result in Russia hitting US military assets in the US itself, again using hypersonic missiles or tactical nukes.

    But refer back to the Soviet battle plan above. The Russian response will also involve a quick ground force invasion of, almost certainly, the Baltic statelets, since those territories separate Kaliningrad from mainland Russia. And also almost certainly taking all of Ukraine, and most likely the eastern half of Poland, east of the Vistula river.

    This is what Nato loses for starting the war, just as it would have lost West Germany and the low countries for starting a war in the eighties.

    Does the US decide at this point to commit suicide by launching its ICBMs? Why would they? They would even go on to sacrifice Britain as I already explained, BEFORE pulling back from the brink…both sides choosing of course to live and fight another day!

    Does this leave Europe damaged? Yes it does–some countries, primarily Britain, possibly destroyed. Both Russia and the US have also taken serious hits. BUT, notice that no ICBMs have been launched. Civilization and human life on earth has NOT been destroyed. Why should it be?

    • Agree: Jazman
    • Replies: @Uncoy
  276. Levtraro says:

    In reply to FB 279:

    Very nice, reassuring and interesting but ultimately unconvincing, because just like tactical nukes, that you say in bold font are there to be used, ICBMs are there to be used too, and any side feeling losing the war will use them, because that is in the nature of war, to use the best weapons and destroy the enemy. This is especially true now, when one side has hypersonic ICBMs.

    I congratulate you on your laying here your knowledge on this matter and working out the details of what you anticipate will happen with this fine-tune escalation theory that saves civilization but leaves behind the UK and Kaliningrad in ashes and Russia owning up to the Vistula, but it sounds to me very much like wishful thinking.

    The great war that might coming will be fantastic and magnificent and fast for the whole of the northern hemisphere. People in southern Chile and Argentina will have the responsibility to restart civilization. Sorry about the Falklands.

    • Disagree: FB
    • Replies: @Vidi
    , @Anonymous
  277. @Mefobills

    Mefobills thanks for the comment. I am not an economist so I am just trying to get a better understanding of fiat money. I always believed that a gold or silver standard was required in order to not have a fiat system, where money can be created out of thin air. Are you saying that as long as unbacked bank credit is allowed, or because of the fact that interest is paid by the borrower, that these are the reasons gold is fiat money, or is there something else?

    What are your thoughts on the Texas Bullion Depository? It appears that if Americans began to use gold and silver through the Depository that this could damage The Fed’s control of money because over time the coins would retain more value than the Federal Reserve notes.

  278. Vidi says:
    @Levtraro

    Very nice, reassuring and interesting but ultimately unconvincing, because just like tactical nukes, that you say in bold font are there to be used, ICBMs are there to be used too, and any side feeling losing the war will use them, because that is in the nature of war, to use the best weapons and destroy the enemy.

    FB’s point was: you don’t want to destroy the enemy if he can destroy you in response. Most militaries are NOT suicidal; they won’t use the doomsday weapons, the ICBMs.

    Tactical nukes are different. Note that such a nuke, if dialed down to 5 kt, has a smaller yield than a conventional bomb like the MOAB.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  279. @Alfred

    Yet again the dumbest of the dumb Dunning-Krugerism. We actually began altering the planet’s ecology with the advent of agriculture and animal husbandry. As for the melting permafrost-it is melting NOW, you buffoon, not over the last 7000 years. Watts Up With That-you like to advertise your gullible stupidity, or worse, don’t you.

  280. Uncoy says: • Website
    @Timbo

    The Russian vaccines seem fairly benign, using boring old vaccine technology and human cells, rather than Chimpanzee cells. The Russian state has made available its vaccines high and low to the population. The population are playing wait and see, as they should, as none of the vaccines have been properly tested (“emergency vaccines”). From what I can see, there is minimal pressure on Russian citizens to vaccinate themselves.

    That Russia is bothering at all with the vaccines suggests there is a darker side to Covid-19 which isn’t being shared with us. That Russia is not bothering much about mass vaccination suggests Covid-19 is not nearly the big deal it’s been made out to be in the West..

    Overall, based on recent comments and policy, it doesn’t look to me like Vladimir Putin wants Russia to take part in the Global Reset nonsense. He’s running a family-centric, nationalist, private-enterprise friendly, low taxation, Russian-culture (white/European) centric platform. Quite the opposite of most of the West who are pushing anti-small business, anti-family, anti-white, anti-history, anti-European policies.

    • Agree: Kali
  281. Uncoy says: • Website
    @FB

    This theory that tactical nukes are acceptable is something the US Joint Chiefs of Staff would like to see as part of the rules of modern warfare. Unfortunately the Russians have not agreed. Anyone detonating any nukes, or as specifically Vladimir Putin has put it, “threatening Russian statehood” in any substantial way buys full retaliation.

    The USA would love to see another war in Europe. It’s about the only event which could make its own economy competitive again. The increased economic activity would occupy its own population, rendering them docile again. The Russians have not and will not agree to “war in Europe”. War in Europe means global war, unless the Russians are clearly winning and there are no nukes.

    So keep trying to persuade stupid people that tactical nukes are okay and part of the order of battle. And watch in dismay as the ICBMs rain down and destroy you, your family, your children, your grandchildren and every city in your relatively densely populated land (parts of Siberia will survive armageddon, all of the continental USA will perish). The USA does not set the rules of war. Talking claptrap does not make claptrap true no matter how many pretty pictures you attach to your comments.

    What is true is that in the past there have been other foolish souls on the NATO side who suggested they could get away with tactical nukes. Obviously they did not really think so or they would have proceeded to “tactically nuke” the Soviet armies out of existence at the time. It’s dangerous self-delusion.

    ***

    Sidenote: Unlike Westerners, most Russians do not fear death. How have they conquered the fear of death? By accepting mortality. There is no ultimate reprieve. The only permanence may be in the hereafter. Having suffered under the Mongolian yoke and thrown it off by force of arms, Russians are more than prepared to stand up to Napoleon, Hitler and the United States, whatever the price.

    • Agree: Levtraro
  282. @Alfred

    There is no permafrost in Siberia.
    Siberia has Two very distinct parts.
    Taiga and Tundra.
    Taiga is the forested part and there is no permafrost there.
    Tundra is north of Taiga there are no trees there only some special type of Grass.
    It is an open flat land.
    My suspicion is that all Tundra is actually sediment from the oceans Brought there by waves from oceans.
    Permafrost is present only in Tundra.

    • Replies: @Kali
  283. Levtraro says:
    @Vidi

    FB’s point was that tactical nukes are there to be used, that was all he said in a nutshell, but the same applies to ICBMs. They were built with a sign written on the side: “Use in case of losing a war”.

    The USA and Russia have some capabilities to intercept ICBMs, untested in a real war between strong states such as themselves, and Russia now has hypersonic ICBMs, which gives them a considerable advantage. If losing the great new war, they will hope for the best and launch, they will not think they are commiting suicide (especially big shots in the state hierarchy), they will think there is a good chance to win, probably a painful victory (painful to others) but a victory after all. Heads of states will not stop to think to save civilization, they will think of winning the war. Any side thinking of humanity in general and showing restraint, as in gradual escalation theory, is the losing side.

    Gradual escalation theory is a nice intellectual exercise and provides lots of room to try simulations and war games. But war is brutal and fanatical and states don’t show restraint when fighting for their survival, this is what has happened in the past and this is what will happen in the next great war.

    • Replies: @FB
  284. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Zarathustra

    There is no permafrost in Siberia.
    Siberia has Two very distinct parts.
    Taiga and Tundra.

    Permafrost is present only in Tundra.

    Nuff said?

  285. Alfred says:
    @Jazman

    Alfred what is your opinion about this

    I am probably the only person here who worked briefly on the construction of a nuclear power station in the UK – Dungeness B. I was with Balfour Beatty Construction. It was 1971.

    It was a disaster. It was a new design. They told the government that it would take 4 years to build. It took almost 20 years. When I was there, they were forced to break out and undo a vast reinforced concrete ring that was not to the requisite tolerances. Physicists had designed the thing without taking into account the limitations imposed by the way things were built!

    I think that the UK is stuffed. No joke. There is no possible way that they will ever build a new nuclear power station to a new design. At best, they will somehow get the Russians or Chinese to build one for them. They have lost the ability to carry out any really big projects. The system is dysfunctional.

    The contractor/subcontractor with the lowest bid wins any work. From the outset, his objective is to find faults in the design and to bill at a much higher rate for the requisite changes to the design. A more unwieldy process it is hard to find. Of course, the contractor will handsomely pay off (under the table) the representatives of the customer so as to ensure that there is a good amount of changes that are necessary – and to ensure that substandard work passes muster.

    The thesis about CO2 being responsible for the fake Global Warming is false on so many levels that it is ridiculous to use CO2 output as a way of justifying or not any project.

    It is my humble opinion that the UK will collapse. There will be a bloody revolution of some sort. A dictator will get into power who will discard all this nonsense. There are colossal deposits of coal under the North Sea. Even 100 years ago there were coal mines that followed the seams out under the sea.

    Ellington Colliery

    With current technology, it is possible to make electric-powered machines that are remotely controlled and that can work under the sea. There no need for people to work under ground.

    There is no alternative to fossil fuels. Even with cheap coal, the standard of living will drop enormously. In the London of 1939, my dad was at the Royal School of Mines. He owned a half share in a car that run on “town gas” – a derivative of coal. When rationing started, they handed in the car for scrap.

    BTW, I have also worked for Aramco, Chevron and Exxon. I know a bit about the gritty end of energy.

    Here is Dungeness B:

    And here is the front page of the website of Chevron. That is all you need to know about the decline of what was once a great company. I could almost puke. 🙁

    • Thanks: Luus Kanin
    • Replies: @Jazman
  286. @Mefobills

    Well said. How about a universal basic income, but one that is not funded by taxes that suppress incentives for the mass of the people to work, save, invest, and take risks? Place our God-given natural resources under public ownership and pay the net proceeds from the sale of the resources to all non-incarcerated US citizens 21 and over. This includes oil, natural gas, minerals, metals, and water. This natural-resource-funded UBI would be a larger, more generous version of the State of Alaska’s annual Permanent Fund dividends.

    Elsewhere I have suggested two additional sources of new federal revenue to help fund a UBI. First, legalize marijuana federally and levy a 5% retail excise tax. Second, levy a substantial excise tax on non-citizens sending cash to recipients in foreign countries, at least 10-15%. Both legal adult marijuana sales and foreign cash remittances are large, growing tax bases currently untapped by the fed gov.

    The UBI should be large enough to replace much of the fed gov welfare-state bureaucracy and “programs.” Get help directly and regularly to the American citizenry, while removing a major part of the federal government-employee constituency for ever more spending and taxing and intrusion. (Yes, the congressmen likely to enact a UBI will include none of these sensible offsetting spending cuts.)

    Whether or not we institute a UBI, how about creating a federal Public Bank that offers ZERO-INTEREST refinancing of Americans’ debts? Only non-elite non-incarcerated US citizens age 21 and over.

    Mortgage loans on primary residences would be eligible, only up to the 95th percentile of home mortgage loan amounts. No Public Bank refinancing of loans on second homes. Zero-interest refinancing of all student loans, vehicle loans, small-business loans, and medical debts.

    Big difference between refinancing Americans’ debts at zero interest and inventing/borrowing dollars to pay us checks that then go largely to debt — often to pay crippling interest without ever breaking free (as designed). The “stimulus” checks of the past year have stimulated bank profits, bank executive bonuses, and major bank-shareholder dividends more than the real productive economy and the lives of normal people.

    It’s wasteful and unjust to borrow and print dollars like mad — causing inevitable price/rent inflation — so that Americans can keep on that vicious debt treadmill just a while longer. Better to end the rip-off interest and stop its accumulation by refinancing at zero interest. These rapacious disloyal creditors are lucky to get their principal back — they should count themselves lucky if we stop at knocking them off the interest gravy train.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  287. Jazman says:
    @Alfred

    Thank you Alfred it is so good to read your answers . It helping me a lot to understand energy

  288. Agent76 says:

    Apr 22, 2021 Russia launches Crimean exercises on Ukraine border in a show of force

    Russia launched major military exercises in Crimea on Thursday under the personal supervision of Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu as part of a show of force on Ukraine’s southern border that has prompted intense concern in Kyiv and the West.

  289. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    FB’s point was that tactical nukes are there to be used, that was all he said in a nutshell, but the same applies to ICBMs. They were built with a sign written on the side: “Use in case of losing a war”.

    Actually, no. That is completely incorrect. ICBMs are NOT meant to be used. Not even close.

    Yes, ICBMs were indeed usable at one time in history, when they first came along as the ultimate nuclear delivery weapons. But within a couple of decades, the evolution of technology made them unusable, except in a mutual assured destruction scenario, MAD.

    I will get to those specific technological developments in a minute, but first consider that nuclear disarmament treaties even exist. And not only do they exist, but they have cut deployed ICBMs by more than three quarters, over the years. [They do NOT apply to tactical nukes which can be produced at will.]

    Why would each side agree to such massive ICBM cuts, if these weapons were useful? This points instead to them being a problem that the two sides are trying to get out from under, like a Damocles Sword.

    There is also the issue of basic logic and rationality. In your previous comment you said this:

    …because just like tactical nukes…are there to be used, ICBMs are there to be used too, and any side feeling losing the war will use them, because that is in the nature of war, to use the best weapons and destroy the enemy.

    How is deciding to commit suicide a rational act?

    If Hitler had known in advance that invading the Soviet Union would cost him his life in four years, and leave his country destroyed, would he have still done so?

    I have highlighted your ‘losing the war’ part. Let’s continue with the Ukraine what-if scenario. After the Russians have responded to American use of tactical nukes on Kaliningrad and have taken the Baltics and eastern Poland. Is this a reason for the US president and the joint chiefs to now say:

    ‘Oh well, nothing left but to destroy ourselves, our families and our country, which is still intact, because…well, because we simply cannot live any longer, knowing the Russians have entered Riga, Latvia and Byalistok, Poland. Of course we would rather die first.’

    Is this the logic you are employing here?

    Quite obviously, the prospect of peace looks very very compelling at this point, especially if both sides have taken serious damage from those tactical nuke strikes on mostly MILITARY targets.

    But let’s look even a little more closely at the logic at work. Obviously the American side knows that employing tactical nukes against Kaliningrad is going to set this escalation cycle in motion. And obviously they have gamed this out to the point that I have here, in fact they have done so in much finer detail.

    So after going through this exercise they realize that even starting is not worth it.

    The ONLY way that it could be worth it is if they have a realistic chance of completely defeating Russia. That means US troops entering Russia, as the Red Army did with Germany, uprooting the governing authority and taking over.

    But can they do this?

    And even at that point Russia still has its ICBMs [which can still end the existence of the United States] and at that point Russia can invoke the final suicide pact. The converse is true also in case of a complete Russian defeat of the US, although I doubt any Russian seriously is interested in such an objective. That is the ONLY scenario in which MAD has any chance of becoming reality.

    Even at that final moment before the extirpation of statehood, the use of ICBMs is very far from assured. President Putin [or the US ‘president,’ whoever that may actually be at any given point in time] still has a big moral dilemma. Is it better to destroy the lives of most of his people and hope the few survivors can continue as a nation, or at least a tribe? Or is it better to simply submit to the enemy occupation and let the people live, even just as slaves?

    [MORE]

    Really, you need to think about these questions clearly. Obviously you are not.

    That fateful decision in no imaginable way comes at any point before such a final and COMPLETE defeat. That much is obvious.

    And the mere possibility of such a complete military defeat of either side is so vanishingly tiny, that it doesn’t even bear serious consideration at all. Neither Russia, nor US are in any way, shape or form in the position of being able to capitulate the other. That possibility is simply not on the table! [Thankfully !]

    So very clearly then, the ICBMs are the FINAL MASS SUICIDE. Just like Jim Jones’ and his followers’ mass suicide in Guyana, or the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas [although that may have been a case of a government massacre, not a mass suicide].

    Why on earth would anyone consider mass suicide to be something that just happens as a normal outcome of war? Has it ever happened before?

    That is my question to you? Go ahead and answer that, instead of telling me you are not ‘convinced’ [which I can’t help in any case, since my point is not to ‘convince’ but to simply state FACTS!]

    Now let’s examine how the ICBM came to evolve from a usable weapon, to an unusable weapon.

    I briefly outlined the technical evolution of the ICBM in my previous comment.

    The ‘Semyorka’ R7 rocket on display in Moscow at the Exhibition of Achievements of National Economy. This rocket was the first ICBM and also took Gagarin, Titov, and four other cosmonauts into spaceflights, including the first woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova in 1963.

    At that time in history, the late fifties, the chance of a bomber getting through the enemy’s defenses and dropping an atomic or thermonuclear bomb, were not good at all. It would almost certainly be shot down by interceptor aircraft or air defenses, including the surface-to-air missile [SAM] which had by 1960 already demonstrated its lethality by shooting down the high-altitude U2 spyplane of Gary Powers in 1960.

    The ICBM could of course get through and was unstoppable–and most likely still is.

    Those early ICBMs were in fact meant to be used, no question about that. So what changed?

    Several key developments have brought us to where we are. One is reliable early detection and warning, which is by way of satellites that can detect the massive heat output of those huge rockets. And the second is over-the-horizon radar, which can track flying objects at distances of thousands of miles. Both are used simultaneously to insure absolutely positive identification of an ICBM launch.

    Work on both of those fronts was started immediately with the dawn of the space age [and ICBM age], but early schemes were crude and did not work very well. I’m not going to get into a detailed technical discussion here, but today’s missile launch detection systems are highly capable. That means that you can see if anyone, anywhere has launched a BIG rocket [smaller, short-range rockets are still difficult, if not impossible to detect and track; see the surprise attack of Iranian rocket strikes on the US Al Asad base in Iraq last year, as discussed in my previous comment in this thread].

    Another development was the evolution of the multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle [MIRV], which is an ICBM that carries multiple warheads, each capable of hitting a geographically separate target. Today’s ICBMs are almost fully MIRV’ed, with up to 10 or more warheads.

    This was made possible by shrinking down the size and mass of thermonuclear devices [see above photo of Minuteman MIRV]. Early ICBMs carried one very large bomb, and it wasn’t very accurate at all. It could miss its target by several kilometers, which would make it far less capable of taking out the intended military targets.

    The accuracy improved dramatically over the decades with the use of highly sophisticated inertial gyroscope technology. This is a self-contained guidance system that works by computing the vehicle’s flight path, and does NOT rely on outside radio guidance, such as GPS or other radio schemes…which would defeat the purpose of even having an ICBM, since the opponent could simply jam it or even take it over. Gyro-based systems cannot be interfered with. Even the first successful rocket, the German V2 used gyros for guidance.

    The result of all of this is that, starting in the 1970s, ICBMs were becoming deadly accurate, within a few feet in fact, and the ability to detect their launches and track their flight paths meant that a surprise attack was out of the question.

    The upshot of all this evolution was that if you launch an attack, the opponent will launch his IMMEDIATELY, since the flight time is only about 30 minutes and you want to get your ICBMs in the air before the opponent’s missiles hit.

    There is also the evolution of the sea-launched ICBM carried on nuclear submarines. The ocean is in reality a black hole where it is near impossible to locate a submarine at any given time. That means, quite simply, that even if your ICBMs are somehow destroyed in their silos, you can still strike. As mentioned already, a single sub carries more than 20 times the entire tonnage of bombs dropped in WW2.

    A similar wrinkle of mobility is the ground-mobile ICBM, which the US doesn’t use, but Russia and China does. Here, just like the nuclear sub, you never really know just where exactly the ICBM is, because it’s moving around across a possibly vast geographic area instead of sitting in a silo. That makes it survivable, like a sub.

    The RS24 ‘Yars’ road-mobile ICBM launcher

    So all of these things mean that there is zero chance that you will not be destroyed if you decide to use your ICBMs. You will, it is a complete certainty.

    And what if you decide to launch, say, just one single ICBM in the midst of an escalation? Does this change the calculus?

    That is indeed a difficult scenario. Do you just launch a single ICBM in return? Knowing of course that even that single ICBM coming at you could take out as many as TEN CITIES with its MIRVs?

    Would you hold back? Or would you launch ten or twenty in return?

    That is completely unknowable. So let’s think about the assumption of the side that is contemplating launching that first, single ICBM. They have no way of knowing if the other guy is going right to MAD at this point. So it must be assumed that this is the beginning of the end, the final suicide exchange.

    So right there you have a very big line that you don’t want to cross. How then do you assume, like other commenters here, that, supposedly Putin said that he would just immediately launch the final apocalypse?

    That makes absolutely no sense. So it makes absolutely no sense for the US deciding to launch even a single ICBM. It’s really all over at that point. That is why those ICBMs are NOT USABLE. not even a single one. Because simple logic tells you that once you open that floodgate, then it is all over!

    Now what about the fact that Russia has jumped ahead with the hypersonic ICBM, which the US doesn’t have? As you mentioned:

    …because that is in the nature of war, to use the best weapons and destroy the enemy. This is especially true now, when one side has hypersonic ICBMs.

    Does this change anything? The Avangard is still launched by an ICBM rocket, which means it will be instantly detected by the US. There is no way to know if the warhead is Avangard or just a plain old ballistic warhead, and it makes no difference anyway.

    So the response will be the same from the US, even a single ICBM launch will mean that a response launch is initiated, perhaps a massive launch. So again, all of the above logic applies.

    The only difference with Avangard is that it is even harder to stop than a ballistic ICBM, although its flight time is still going to be the same 30 minutes or so. The only thing this changes is that it defeats any notions of anti-missile defense, because a MANEUVERING warhead is impossible to stop. But for now at least, so is a non-maneuvering warhead. Here is the flight path of a boost-glide vehicle like Avangard.

    The importance of Avangard is thereby mostly symbolic at this point. It says to the US that its dream of defeating Russia by inventing and deploying a truly effective anti-missile shield is already completely negated anyway. It is a huge psychological weapon, that tells the US they have lost this particular technology war.

    So that is how tactical nuclear weapons are usable, but ICBMs are not.

    It should be noted that tactical nukes can also be used on small hypersonic flight vehicles, for instance the Zircon, which has a range of at most about 1,000 km. The same is true for the air-launched Kinzhal, or the ground-launched Iskander, which has a range of only 500 km. These missiles are deadly because they are difficult to stop…if not impossible.

    These would be employed with tactical nukes, the Iskander we know has that option. But so do subsonic cruise missiles like the US relies on. Even those are difficult to stop.

    The bottom line is that tactical nuclear missiles could very easily be used, and it is by no means a sure thing that this leads to an ICBM exchange and mutual assured destruction. That is simply not the case.

    This does NOT mean that using even tactical nukes is going to be something that we are likely to see. It is not. And it is precisely for those reasons I already mentioned, which is the very precise calculus of escalation. Neither side has a realistic chance of winning, even using tactical nukes…and certainly not inflicting a total defeat, which is out of the realm of possibility.

    The US knows very well that if it attacks Kaliningrad with nukes, as I gamed out above, it’s going to lead to a point where there is no other choice but to then pull back from the brink and make peace.

    And after all that damage and destruction, what is the point? Would it be worth it?

    At this point in history, no. Hence, the unlikelihood of using even tactical nukes to being with. And by extension, even starting a shooting war between Russia and the US. Which is of course why it is so infuriating to see what the so-called Biden-Harris ‘administration’ has already stoked up in its first few days in office.

    No doubt, we can trace back this psychopathic behavior to the likes of Hooknose Blinken, Victoria Nudelman, and probably a few more dozen basement crazies of the neocon cabal, who of course remain charge, no matter what kabuki theater happens in ‘elections.’

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Thanks: Jazman, Vidi
  290. annamaria says:
    @Parbes

    “HOSTILITY of Western “finance capitalism” towards HITLER’S GERMANY – that notion is not even preposterous, it’s just imbecilic.”
    — You protest too much.
    Why don’t you take a decent book on European history and read about the reparations imposed on Germany after WWI? Your post has a Yiddish accent.
    https://www.unz.com/proberts/the-fate-of-the-peoples-of-the-world/?highlight=Germany+and+USA+Hitler

    • Replies: @Parbes
  291. @Schuetze

    Very simplistic critique… Does Bulgaria not believe the CIA and MI6 don’t have operatives extracting critical information from them??? Do they believe the NSA is not spying on all their networks?? If Angela Merkel could get spied on – who do they think they would be to escape? So their anti Russia bent can’t just be about spying. If Russia had an economy the size of NATO – whose side would Bulgaria be on?

  292. @FB

    What about test launches of all these rockets? Do the superpowers inform each other about them so that they are not mistaken for a real attack? And trying any “secret” tests without letting the other side know would seem dangerous given that they’d be detected anyway but not knowing what kind of warhead is being used.

    • Replies: @FB
  293. Smith says:

    Since we are discussing the usage of tac nukes in Europe, and assuming FB is right and no ICMB is used afterwards, what would be the impact immediately after the bomb drops and long-term after the bomb drops?

    Environmental, social–economic and such?

  294. @Mefobills

    I wish Hitler had stfu and let his Generals develop a trap for Stalin. Fake a rout, funnel them in, surround them and exterminate the Red Army. Yeah, I know…armchair, right?
    He had some of the best military minds.
    I so wish history had been different.

  295. Parbes says:
    @annamaria

    Apparently either your English reading comprehension isn’t good enough, or you’re too dumb to understand what I said. Read it again – I wrote:

    “Hitler WASN’T PUSHED INTO HIS ATTACK on the Soviet Union, Poland etc. by the HOSTILITY of Western ‘finance capitalism’ towards HITLER’S GERMANY – that notion is not even preposterous, it’s just imbecilic.”

    I didn’t say there was no hostility of Western finance capitalism towards Germany – I’m aware of the reparations imposed on Germany after WWI (though note that those reparations were forced onto Germany right after WWI, not after Hitler’s rise to power). My post doesn’t have a “Yiddish accent” at all. What I said was that the notion of WESTERN finance capitalism’s hostility towards GERMANY causing Hitler to attack the SOVIET UNION is imbecilic, since the logical response to such hostility should have been for Hitler to attack the Western centers of finance capitalism, not the Soviets. The cause of Hitler’s attack on the Soviet Union was the ideas of “untermenschen”, “lebensraum” and “drang nach osten”, plus fanatical anti-communism. I didn’t say “the notion that Western finance capitalism was hostile to Hitler’s Germany is imbecilic”.

    You’re obviously not doing too well with English as a second language at the level of moderately complex discussions. Time for you to go and take some more ESL courses.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @annamaria
  296. FB says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    The airspace above 18,000 feet is heavily restricted in every country that is a signatory to ICAO [International Civil Aviation Organization], which is pretty much everyone.

    So you can’t fly ANYTHING above that height without alerting the airspace authorities in your country, which would then issue a public NOTAM, notice to airmen that is information that’s available to anyone, anywhere. Routine flights by civil aircraft, including private planes, simply need air traffic control clearance to fly there.

    That is one tier. There are other mechanisms that deal with test flights and rocket flights, especially those that leave the atmosphere. The best-known such incident was the Norwegian Rocket Incident of 1995.

    Black Brant 12 sounding rocket

    …a team of Norwegian and US scientists launched a Black Brant XII four-stage sounding rocket from the Andøya Rocket Range off the northwestern coast of Norway.

    The rocket carried scientific equipment to study the aurora borealis over Svalbard, and flew on a high northbound trajectory, which included an air corridor that stretches from Minuteman III nuclear missile silos in North Dakota all the way to the Russian capital city of Moscow

    Norway did notify Russia and 30 other countries, but it seems the Russian radar operators were not given the heads-up. Instead, taking into consideration the missile’s flight path, with the known air corridor that would be flown by a US ICBM strike, they came very close to launching.

    Now this is actually a perfect example of why you don’t want to launch even a single ICBM. Because a single rocket shot would likely be an EMP [electromagnetic pulse] detonation that would blind radar and put electronics out of commission. It would be followed by the main ICBM salvo.

    This is what the Russians assumed at first, but fortunately the retaliatory launch didn’t happen…else things might be much different for all of us right now.

    There may be other mechanisms in place. Every space launch must be well-known in advance, even a smaller rocket. The testing of certain intercontinental-range rockets may also be subject to some clauses in the arms control treaties like START [strategic arms reductions treaty].

    There was another early-warning system false alarm in 1983, known now as the Stanislav Petrov incident, for the Lt Col in the Soviet Air Defense Forces who refused to launch.

    Notice how launch-on-warning actually operates:

    If notification was received from the early warning systems that inbound missiles had been detected, the Soviet Union’s strategy was an immediate and compulsory nuclear counter-attack against the United States [launch on warning], specified in the doctrine of mutual assured destruction.

    Notice also that the US was playing fast and loose at the time, and tensions were very high, not unlike right now with Ukraine.

    In mid-February 1981, and continuing until 1983, psychological operations by the United States began.

    These were designed to test Soviet radar vulnerability and to demonstrate US nuclear capabilities. They included clandestine naval operations, in the Barents, Norwegian, Black, and Baltic seas and near the Greenland-Iceland-United Kingdom (GIUK) gap, as well as flights by American bombers, occasionally several times per week, directly toward Soviet airspace that turned away only at the last moment.

    That sounds very smart, now doesn’t it? Especially that there was in fact a very big crisis at the time with intermediate-range nuclear missiles in Europe, which ended a few years later with the signing of the IRNF Treaty [which Trump tore up last year].

    ‘It really got to them,’ recalls Dr. William Schneider, [former] undersecretary of state for military assistance and technology, who saw classified ‘after-action reports’ that indicated U.S. flight activity.

    ‘They didn’t know what it all meant. A squadron would fly straight at Soviet airspace, and other radars would light up and units would go on alert. Then at the last minute the squadron would peel off and return home.’

    That was the background setting when that false alarm happened in 1983. That was the year that the Soviets shot down Korean Flight 007. Again a rather questionable incident where a Boeing 747 equipped with triple-redundant navigation system designed to be accurate to a few feet, plus a seasoned long-range flight crew strays hundreds of miles off course and flies over a Soviet nuclear sub base in Kamchatka.

    Petrov in 2016

    And what about that 1995 ‘scientific’ Norwegian rocket, using a US-made rocket and just ‘coincidentally’ flying along the same track that an ICBM launched from North Dakota would fly?

    There are other such incidents that I know of. There are likely many more that have not been made public. It is all a testament to the capable early-warning and detection systems on the Russian side, and less to any such ‘cooperation’ about rocket flights, incredible as that may seem.

    As I said, right now we have the psycho ‘Team Biden,’ which is obviously the *team neocon* riding in the saddle again.

    Thank heavens for Vladimir Vladimirovich. If both sides were this idiotic, what do you suppose might happen, even by accident?

  297. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    Good read, and you make a good and sensible case for your gradual escalation theory as the follow-up after a tactical nuke attack by NATO on Kaliningrad.

    The fundamental problem with your gradual escalation theory (and the point that you don’t get from my replies) is that you think like a technical person, while the decisions will be made well above your paygrade, by heads of state and their entourage of decision makers. These people will not suicide themselves, they will suicide others.

    Try to think like a head of state. Kaliningrad has been destroyed and taken by NATO using tactical nukes, causing massive fatalities in a large Russian city and a large environmental disaster. You are the leader of Russia and you can punish the USA badly for a crime against humanity and against your people and your honour. And you say the leader’s response will be to mobilize troops to take the Baltic statelets, advance to the Vistula, and tactical nuke the UK? No way. Putin has already spoken of “assymetrical, swift and severe responses” in connection to further economic sanctions attacks. Listen to the guy. He knows a lot more than you about how Russia would react to an attack on her territory. He is the decision maker, he is the kind of guy that will make the decision, not the likes of you with your ellaborate and colour-illustrated fine-tuned escalation theories.

    And the advantage that Russia has with her hypersonic ICBMs, plus the other mobile ICBMs on land and the sea, makes it quite likely that before Russia sees her main cities destroyed because of retaliation (because yes, we will see the flashes) she will unleash hell on earth on both the USA and western Europe. As Uncoy said, ICBMs will rain on our cities.

    And this is before we consider the effect of the S-400 and S-500 systems that you have so far ignored (but I expect a well-illustrated long comment from you about these). They are mobile, they seem to hit ballistic targets flying nearly 500 km away, tens of km high, and multiple numbers of them. Russia has a good chance to intercept a lot of the retaliation ICBMs sent her way and thus get away with a full-blown ICBM “exchange of opinions”.

    Further reason to give more weight to Putin’s “assymetrical, swift and severe responses” style of leadership than to your fine-tuned escalation theory in the event of a NATO attack on Kaliningrad with tactical nukes.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @FB
  298. annamaria says:
    @Parbes

    There was and is a rivalry between the UK and Germany. Moreover, the UK’s Great Game dreams never perished and the Financial Sqeed never stopped plotting against Russia.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halford_Mackinder…

    In 1895, Mackinder was one of the founders of the London School of Economics. …

    His book titled “The Geographic Pivot of the History,” presented his theory of the Heartland … The book’s most famous quote was: “Who rules East Europe commands the [Eurasian] Heartland; Who rules the Heartland commands the World Island; Who rules the World Island commands the World.” This message was composed to convince the world statesmen at the Paris Peace conference of the crucial importance of Eastern Europe as the strategic route to the Heartland was interpreted as requiring a strip of buffer states to separate Germany and Russia.

    https://briqjournal.com/en/the-geopolitics-separatist-movements-eurasia:
    “Mackinder designated Russia as Eurasia’s geopolitical hearth.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History:

    He outlined the following ways in which the Heartland might become a springboard for global domination in the twentieth century (Sempa, 2000): “Successful invasion of Russia by a West European nation (most probably Germany).”

    WWI & WWII was a handiwork of Banksters.

    • Replies: @Parbes
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  299. FB says: • Website

    Well, I’m not going to go into ever greater and greater military-technical detail to rebut objections like this:

    Kaliningrad has been destroyed and taken by NATO using tactical nukes, causing massive fatalities in a large Russian city and a large environmental disaster.

    A lot of very big errors there. Kaliningrad is neither taken by ‘Nato’, nor is it a big city.

    Refer again to the Cold War Rhine offensive above. Was the Vistula valley ‘taken’ by Nato after the tactical bombing of the area? Of course not, because the Russian battle plan was to prevent that and quickly sweep several armies across Germany, the heart of Nato forces in a pre-emptive push.

    Taking the Baltic statelets and eastern Poland by comparison today is child’s play. [An ‘army’ today is about 100,000 troops, consisting of five or six divisions; it could be up to 300,000 in time of war].

    Nato today in a conflict stirred up by US neocons would include only complete puppet Britain. Both Germany and France would sit out any war of choice in Eastern Europe.

    Warsaw itself knows that it could be overrun by Russia in a week, as their own recently disclosed war game shows. Scott Ritter with the details.

    It would take months for a ‘Nato’ consisting of US and UK forces to put together a land army big enough to take on Russia on its doorstep. That is not how things would happen. Any such war on Kaliningrad would see US and UK airpower and tactical nukes, and the ground forces of Poland and the Baltics trying to overrun Kaliningrad.

    This is a 100 percent REAL possiblity!

    The only reason why it hasn’t happened yet is that they do not have the actual strength to carry it out. If they thought they could do it, they would do it in a heartbeat.

    Putin has already spoken of…

    Yes, yes I know. You and the others here know more about what Putin means than Putin himself, it seems. Look, these kinds of plans and military specifics are for the military to know and keep quiet about, not for Putin to toss out in TV soundbites.

    As for missile defense, that is another topic, and one I should get into at some point because there is a lot of interesting stuff there.

    The S500 is said to be designed specifically for intercepting ICBMs. And Russia has, since 1995, its A135 anti-ICBM system surrounding the entire greater Moscow region, which actually uses nuclear-tipped interceptor rockets that could, in theory, have a chance of at least deflecting some ICBM warheads.

    But nobody knows that for sure. Nobody knows for sure if the S500 and the new and updated A235, both set to come online soon, are any better than the US ‘anti-missile’ system, which might as well be a cardboard maquette from what I can tell.

    Right now, the assumption is that the ICBM cannot be stopped, nor do I think that is going to change anytime soon. So we are still living in a final suicide pact called MAD.

    It seems that people do not like these realities. Like I said at the beginning, it’s better that people actually don’t know all the details. They are not comforting.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  300. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Levtraro

    Think without a doubt FB is right why would the wealthy lose everything they have in a major escalation of the war, to them England and the EU could be written off with little to no lost to them and believe me their lives are the most precious on the planet at least to them, ICBM’s are last ditch affairs to be only use in the case where one country or the other is to be removed from civilization..

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  301. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Hell just tax every robot the same as you would tax the worker to make business pay at least their fair share, that way they couldn’t park it in off-shore accounts, tax every financial transaction including every share of stock sold to all the hedge funds to the Fed itself, and that would take care of what you propose and destroy the ugliness in the capitalist system.

  302. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    Sorry, somehow forgot to hit the reply button. Above comment is in reply to you.

  303. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    Yes, yes I know. You and the others here know more about what Putin means than Putin himself, it seems. Look, these kinds of plans and military specifics are for the military to know and keep quiet about, not for Putin to toss out in TV soundbites.

    Come on. It was you who presented a complete battle plan for Russia’s reaction to a tacttical nuke attack on Kaliningrad, including maps with arrows lol! You pretend to know what will be Russia’s reaction but what will really happen is way above your paygrade and there is a substantial likelihood, according to what the guy who really knows has said (“Assymetric, swift and severe response”) that it is not what you assume.

    It seems that people do not like these realities. Like I said at the beginning, it’s better that people actually don’t know all the details. They are not comforting.

    It is a pity that you are so arrogant, because you have a good knowledge base, but in the end all that knowledge is ruined by your condescending tone. Look, you are just a technical guy, you don’t have the faintest idea what happens when they say thank you and close the door behind you.

    In summary, your scenario is wishfull thinking. If NATO attacks Kaliningrad with tactical nukes, as in the case that you presented, the consequences will be far worse than you assume. This is not comforting, indeed.

    • Replies: @FB
  304. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    Oh and btw, this part of your comment is exactly correct:

    These people will not suicide themselves, they will suicide others.

    This is exactly why they WILL sacrifice the UK or any other sacrificial pawn long before it comes to their own date with Mr ICBM. As I have been saying all along.

    Of course this part of your comment is completely at odds with your other notions.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  305. Levtraro says:
    @Anonymous

    Mmh, you seem to not have understood the conversation. FB is arguing that a tactical nuke attack on Kaliningrad will not result in Russia using her ICBMs, because of MAD, so his point was actually that a NATO tactical nuke attack on Russia is something feasible because Russia will react with a gradual escalation war campaign. So he is actually downplaying the impact of using tactical nukes on the stability of our civilization, thus his hypothesis, if shared by decision makers in the West, gets us closer to war between nuclear powers. His hypothesis, if shared by decision makers in the West, endangers the wealth of western elites. You agreed to something that was contrary to your argument.

    So what evidence do we have? Russia alone has hypersonic ICBMs and seems to be very confident in her S-400 and S-500 ICBM intercepting systems, and they seem to be so good that they can sell them even to NATO countries. Plus Putin has spoken of “assymetrical, swift and severe responses” to western attacks in another context. Plus Putin raised the ante in the recent Ukranian-Donbass standoff by promising an end to Ukranian statehood in responde to the threat to the Donbass. So the evidence clearly points in the direction of Russia not playing along the game of fine-tune gradual escalation in response to an attack on her territory with tactical nukes. Rather, it seems more likely that Russia will launch her ICBMs and expect to win, or more relevant to us, as Uncoy has aptly said, we here in major western cities will see those ICBMs raining down on our heads. Ideas like those of FB are very dangerous.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Zarathustra
  306. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    No, the fact that they will suicide others means that MAD is less threatening to the decision makers in Russia, thus making more likely that they will launch her ICBMs, which is consistent with my objections to your fine-tuned escalation theory and at odds with your reliance on MAD to support your fine-tuned escalation theory.

  307. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    Ideas like those of FB are very dangerous.

    Well…but in your scenario:

    …we here in major western cities will see those ICBMs raining down on our heads.

    Which I guess is less dangerous than a tactical nuke war in Eastern Europe?

    Anyway, I guess it’s time for me to give up at this point because I am fully confused by your reasoning. I will note though that S400 has no chance of intercepting ICBMs; it is an anti-aircraft SAM, and also limited anti-missile defense for much slower and smaller short-range ballistic missiles.

    I will probably get around to going into some more detail on this and S500, and anti-missile defense in general.

    Despite what you may believe, technical capabilities do matter. In fact they are at the center of military capability. What various clowns in suits think makes little difference to the physics-based reality we occupy on this earth.

    Their domain is in think-tank world on the Potomac and in various ‘international studies’ ‘programs’ and other such flatulence chambers… all of which gas is instantly swept away as soon as those rocket motors fire up.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  308. Parbes says:
    @annamaria

    Hey look, this dialogue is getting really boring… We’re talking past each other here. You keep repeating the same memorized mantra like a trained parrot, without acknowledging or apologizing that you misinterpreted what I was saying and attacked me unfairly in your earlier post. Banksters are bad and played a nefarious role in 20th century world wars…Yes. There was a rivalry between the British and the Germans…Yes. Finance capitalists hated and plotted against Russia/USSR…Yes. The Anglo-Zionist British Empire viewed Russia/USSR as its geopolitical enemy and plotted against her in a ‘Great Game’…Yes. I am not objecting to any of these. But my comments on this thread have been about the fact that, the East European theater of World War II and Hitler’s attack on the Soviet Union would not have happened without the Nazi ideology of extreme, irrational, parochial German tribalist supremacism as expressed in the ideas of “untermenschen”, “lebensraum” and “drang nach osten”, coupled with fanatical anti-communism (which was, of course, tacitly supported and fanned by the banksters and Western capitalist Anglo-Zionist powers).

    As a pro-Russian commentator/counter-propagandist, I think you are fairly mediocre, facile and ineffective.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  309. @Levtraro

    I tend to agree with you in this case. My opinion in this scenario would be responded by by Russia by placing all Russian army into Ukraine. So in case of shoot out the Ukrainian population would suffer and not Russian. Similar tactic was developed at the Soviet times when I was in the Army.

  310. annamaria says:
    @Parbes

    It seems that you tried to impress me with the brilliance of your intelligence. Whatever knowledge you possess, it is canceled by your poor manners (an indicator of intelligence).
    Also, you need to check the meaning of the word “dialogue.”

    • Replies: @Parbes
  311. Oddly enough, I believe Russia and the West want the same thing in the upcoming war: a quick, short end to the war. The West wants to avoid (Western) casualties at all costs; they do not look good on camera. Thus Nato will use tactical nukes early, to “shock and awe” Russia into submission.

    Russia does not want a prolonged war, because it remembers the horror of 27 million dead in WWII. Therefore it will go for decapitation. This is what Putin is getting at with his telling phrase, “assymetrical, swift and severe responses.” “Assymetrical,” because it will strike command centers throughout Europe, Britain, and the American coasts. “Swift,” because immediate, with hypersonic missiles, bombers, and submarines. “Severe,” including nukes (especially if the West has initiated their use), to remove the decision makers.

    This strategy is not dissimilar to the Chinese Assassin’s Mace, which is designed to end a war before it begins in earnest. It accords with Sun-tzu’s approach, to be unseen, swift, and lethal. One wonders what Putin may have learned from Xi in their recent consultations.

    Little is predictable in the next war, except that it will happen. The infinite greed of the West makes it so. Am afraid the West will be totally unprepared for the ferocity of Russia’s response to Western aggression. Russia has had enough.

    • Agree: Levtraro
    • Replies: @FB
  312. FB says: • Website
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Well, all of these scenarios from commenters here about what they *think* will happen [and what they *think* Putin’s words mean] gives me a whole new appreciation of even The Saker’s ‘analyses.’

    I’m not going to get into a wholesale rehashing of what I have already presented here…but will only suggest all of you actually READ what I have already written.

    I have *specifically* said that any direct involvement of Nato in Ukraine would result in Russia targeting Nato command and control centers *including on Nato territory*. That is certainly an *asymmetric* response that you and others here are so fixated upon.

    I then went on to *specifically* state that any FURTHER Nato escalation would see Russia targeting first British and then US targets.

    And then you say this:

    Thus Nato will use tactical nukes early, to “shock and awe” Russia into submission.

    No, actually they will not. I can tell you that they absolutely will not, because they do not have a workable PLAN for seeing such an escalation to fruition. It’s not something that is even remotely possible.

    Look, all you people here seem to think that airplanes and tactical nukes and ICBMs all just fly around like the tooth fairy without any regard to physics and physical limitations.

    If you are going to start a war you have to have a realistic PLAN. It’s all well and nice to think that Putin just assured the world that as soon as the crazies in DC decide to do something stupid, Putin is just going to magically erase all of them…and we all live happily ever after.

    No. They will not do something *extremely* stupid, even if they really really want to, because the people who are actually responsible for the military are *not actually stupid*. They do plan and work out scenarios, like I have done here, and they know what is doable and what is not.

    This will be my last post on this subject, until and unless someone actually comes up with a question or comment or disagreement that actually makes sense!

  313. Parbes says:
    @annamaria

    Calling ME poor-mannered, when it was you who butted into this thread misquoting, misunderstanding and insulting me… That’s kind of rich. Incompetent Russians like you are part of the problem, you alienate and piss off even those who support Russia.

    Thanks for nothing, and wasting my time.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  314. Smith says:

    But don’t the UK have their own nukes?

    Wouldn’t they just retaliate if they detect the Russian nuking them since they got nothing else to lose?

    • Replies: @Alfred
  315. annamaria says:
    @Parbes

    Ms. Parbes, while making your temperamental accusations, you overlooked (does not matter intentionally or not) my apologia for Nazi Germany in the historical context of the UK-Germany rivalry and the UK’s centuries-long Russophobia.
    Before using a set of unpleasant adjectives towards commenters on this forum, count to 10.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  316. @FB

    Hope you are right and I am wrong. Have little to no confidence in our esteemed leaders to do anything remotely resembling a workable plan.

    As to what is physically possible, I don’t know but hope to learn. Some of your posts have not yet gotten to, am looking forward to those. Value them all.

    From what I read, military planners are looking into how to make tactical nuclear war work. They and their neocon bosses are the ones I fear.

  317. FB says: • Website

    From what I read, military planners are looking into how to make tactical nuclear war work.

    Yes they are. Because tactical nuclear war DOES work, and has been considered such for a very very long time. That, my friend, is the dirty little secret that they will never, ever tell the public about in any way that is understandable.

    Look both sides know this. They know far more than I have presented here, which is just a brief introduction. A couple of points:

    1. There are ZERO treaties for limiting tactical nukes

    2. The war plan from the Cold War era I discussed is just one of many such plans

    Now think about this. Neither side seems to be interested at all in limiting tactical nukes. Does that sound like they don’t see this class of weapon as useful? [That is so obvious it should be a rhetorical question.]

    Now I will open another door on the subject: since both sides embrace tactical nukes, the delivery method then becomes key. So subsonic missiles, supersonic and hypersonic missiles etc.

    Also just regular combat aircraft of course; even a very small fighter like the F16 can drop a tactical nuke of 300 kiloton. So that means even air defense systems meant to stop those aircraft become part of the equation. Also satellites and other space assets. Everything that gives you an edge in getting that sweet little tactical nuke on the head of your opponent.

    So there is a lot to this whole thing, but hopefully you get the drift. The bottom line is that ICBMs are the end of civilization. Nobody is going to shoot even a single one off, because of the ‘launch on warning’ I already talked about at length.

    So the only thing stopping a shooting war between Russia and the US from going to tactical nukes is the fact that they are evenly matched in any particular theater. US would love to snatch Kaliningrad, for instance. They also want to bring US bases into Ukraine.

    The end goal being this long slow, possibly 100-year war where they hope they will eventually have the edge in terms of better, more capable missiles and aircraft and all the other things mentioned so that they can go in and finish Russia off.

    But unfortunately for this Wile E Coyote obsession with Russia among the US elite, the opposite is happening. It is Russia that is surging ahead in key military technology, and space technology, and turning out more competent people while the US is making less and less [Russia graduates twice as many engineers as the US, and they are of a very high quality].

    So at this time at least there is not a chance that any such war is going to happen. If it does, it would almost certainly lead to the scenario I described, where both step back from the abyss before even a single ICBM is launched…because it might as well be a hundred. No difference.

  318. JasonT says:

    The only response to a tactical nuclear strike is an all out strategic nuclear strike because tit-for-tat strikes only escalate. So why wait for the inevitable. I think Putin knows this, and knows that Russia is better capable of surviving an all out nuclear war than the West. Not to mention that Putin has gone on record to say that a world without Russia is no world worth living in.

    • Agree: Levtraro
    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
  319. Parbes says:
    @annamaria

    You still don’t get it, do you? Your apologia for Nazi Germany IS the problem, Ms. Annamaria.

    Are you Russian? If you are, how the hell can you make an apologia for Nazi Germany??

    • Replies: @annamaria
  320. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    FB, we are on the same side, we don’t want NATO to attack Russia and start a war. Both of us respect Russia and wants her to keep getting better for their people and as an example to the West. I have said many times I admire Russia as a bastion of consertavive values vis-a-vis a morally decaying West that promotes importation of blacks and browns, feminization, sexual deviancy and neo-liberalism. You are confused by my arguments because you are making the wrong assumptions about me. We simply disagree on the effect of a NATO tactical nuclear attack on Kaliningrad, which was your initial scenario. You think it will lead to Russia responding with a gradual escalation war campaign WWII-style and ultimately Russia winning because both sides will walk away from the brink of nuclear war because of MAD. I reacted to that by pointing out that it would be much worse. Russia is in the position and seems to be disposed to retaliate in assymetrical, swift and severe manner, so us in major cities in the West will die en masse due to ICBMs falling on our heads. My point is using tactical nukes against Russia is a very very very bad idea. It will lead not just to NATO defeat in Europe as you think. It will lead to a full-blown nuclear armageddon with ICBMs and probably Russia would win but that is poor consolation because of all us will be dead. Cappici?

  321. Manfrog says:
    @animalogic

    Does anyone really believe NATO forces (i.e., US) would intervene in the event of a Ukraine-Russia shooting match over Donbass?

    If so, you are stupid.

  322. @FB

    Article on nuclear weapons from the neocon side, but with an interesting discussion of tactical nukes…

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/04/29/russian_nuclear_doctrine_force_expansion_and_nuclear_deterrence_774957.html

    P.S. Accidentally clicked “Thanks” on the comment below (#323) rather than yours.

    The last Hundred Years War (1337–1453) saw a savior figure arise (Joan of Arc) and the emergence of France as a powerful state. Would love to see Russia come out of its current travails secure and prosperous, free to pursue its highest aims apart from the constant incursions of other states.

    • Replies: @FB
  323. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    Good comment.

    Now think about this. Neither side seems to be interested at all in limiting tactical nukes. Does that sound like they don’t see this class of weapon as useful? [That is so obvious it should be a rhetorical question.]

    Yes, but only to be used against strong non-nuclear enemies. NATO cannot use tactical nukes against Russia and expect a tactical nuke response from Russia. Russia will respond with ICBMs.

    So there is a lot to this whole thing, but hopefully you get the drift. The bottom line is that ICBMs are the end of civilization. Nobody is going to shoot even a single one off, because of the ‘launch on warning’ I already talked about at length.

    That was a good argument until Russia developed hypersonic ICBMs and the soon to be operative S-500, on top of the currently operative S-400 (according to the Russians, these can intercept cruise and ballistic missiles too). Russia has now (or it will have very soon) sufficient confidence to responde assymetrically, unleach armageddon, and expect to have a sufficient likelihood to prevail.

    But unfortunately for this Wile E Coyote obsession with Russia among the US elite, the opposite is happening. It is Russia that is surging ahead in key military technology, and space technology, and turning out more competent people while the US is making less and less [Russia graduates twice as many engineers as the US, and they are of a very high quality].

    Exactly right. Which makes MAD less of a deterrent for Russia and increases the chances of us getting killed by Russian ICBMs in case of a tactical nuke attack by NATO against Russia.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  324. @Alfred

    At the same time, the USSR was sending freighters full of weapons to help North Vietnam kill GIs, they were too afraid of exposing the supposedly fake moon landings? That is arrant nonsense.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  325. Jazman says:
    @FB

    I do not see people here have enough knowledge to comment or have disagreement with you . Only Martianov so far what I have seen . Your articles are for us layman perfect opportunity to have basic understanding what can happen . I follow one guy from curiosity on tweeter and you probably know him https://fas.org/expert/hans-kristensen/ . Reading about his bio he is anti nuke activist and I have not seen any engineering credentials . He stated that US have edge in nuclear weapons over Russia I personally think that it is BS

    • Agree: FB
  326. Alfred says:
    @Smith

    But don’t the UK have their own nukes?

    The British paid for them but the Americans control them. I know this sounds ridiculous but you get the governments that you deserve. 🙁

    How Washington owns the UK’s nukes.
    London’s nuclear dependency cuts to the heart of the US-UK Special Relationship.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Smith
  327. FB says: • Website
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Thanks for that article. I’m reminded of Ben Franklin’s eminent advice to ‘fart proudly.’

    Of course it’s quite funny when someone decides to impress with an underwear-shredding ass blast, but this gets old very quickly. So it did take some effort [and nose-holding] to wade through this rather sustained flatulence fest.

    Look, this is exactly the kind of ‘material’ that is the bread and butter of the so-called ‘think tanks.’ These people have zero clue about how things really work, either the technology or how it would be used in a military confrontation. Their only purpose is to whip up froth.

    For instance, in referring to Russia’s new ‘super weapons’ they write this:

    The new nuclear weapons may be intended as a backstop to Russian aggression and coercion against NATO.

    I mean come on. How is Russia ‘coercing’ Nato? That is just so unreal that you have to wonder how anything this guy writes could possibly improve the knowledge of even a guy that just had a lobotomy.

    There is much more along these lines, in fact the entire thing is nothing but drivel and farce. On the subject of tactical nukes, which as I mentioned already are completely unregulated, so there is no knowing just how many of them exist. But this article says The US has only ‘100 tactical bombs deployed at air bases in Europe.’

    This is of course the B61 bomb that we hear about from time to time, because the US keeps them at bases in Europe and Turkey, and they would be dropped from fighter jets.

    B61 Thermonuclear Bomb. The B61 nuclear bomb is designed for carriage by aircraft at supersonic flight speeds and is the *primary* thermonuclear weapon in the U.S. stockpile since the end of the Cold War. The weapon was designed and built by the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico beginning in 1961 and has been produced in several versions.

    Also in that wikipedia article:

    So there have been 3,155 of these built, yet only ‘100’ are now in the hands of the US military? What happened to the other three thousand? Why not just say the US only has one or two, lol?

    I mean this is the level of bullshit we’re dealing with here. Btw, the ‘source’ for that number is this article from another assclown that Jazman just mentioned, Hans Kristensen, who seems to be active on twitter, lol.

    There are no shortage of these clowns. Their only purpose is purely theatrical.

    There are literally dozens of worked out military plans and contingency plans by the military strategists on both sides that are obviously not made public, certainly not to these clowns–and in fact probably not even to political figures. This is purely military stuff. The politicians only go to the generals and say, ‘can you do such and such’? And the generals say yay or nay, and if they are asked to start something that’s when those plans are pulled out. Not before.

    I presented here already just one such plan [Seven Days to the River Rhine] that was only made public decades after the Cold War. This is an *accurate* glimpse of true reality, and how things would actually unfold.

    Note that the scenario starts with a Nato attack *using tactical nukes*. The response is also nuclear, but again *tactical* and not ICBMs. This is in fact how things would unfold if it came to a shooting war, for whatever reason.

    Any other commentary is just free flatulence of the kind we see in this silly article.

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  328. annamaria says:
    @Parbes

    “how the hell…”
    — I am not a victim of holobiz. Are you?

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  329. Alfred says:
    @FB

    The end goal being this long slow, possibly 100-year war …

    Apologies for a slight diversion. There is no way the US, and the EU, will remain intact past 2032. Martin Armstrong’s model forecasts the end of the dollar hegemony by 2028 and a total reset of governments worldwide by 2032.

    BTW, thank you for your insights. 🙂

    Look at Britain, you have Boris Johnson a purported CONSERVATIVE acting like a total dictator. This is no longer political insofar as one party against another. As governments start to implode moving closer to 2032, what is collapsing is simply this form of Republican governments.

    Why Republics are Always the Worst Form of Government

    We are confronted by the end of the Sixth Wave come 2032, which will be a profound economic and political change. It appears these world leaders are pushing us toward fulfilling the vision of Kalus Schwab and his distorted view of how society functions…

    What is 2032

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  330. Alfred says:
    @Ray Caruso

    At the same time, the USSR was sending freighters full of weapons to help North Vietnam kill GIs, they were too afraid of exposing the supposedly fake moon landings?

    Believe it or not, countries at war or proxy war often deal with each other on other fronts quite differently.

    A famous case was when the Germans offered a deal to the British in WW2 – one million Jews in return for 10,000 trucks. The British refused. After the war, the Jews/Israelis assassinated the British person who had made that decision.

    A well-known Zionist representative in Hungary, Joel Brandt, arrived on 19th May by a German plane in Istanbul and reported to the representatives of the Jewish Agency as follows:

    The Assassination of Lord Moyne

    At present, it is well-known that the Ukrainians sell off to all comers some of the weapons the USA sends to them. The Americans are quite aware of this but that does not stop them from sending more obsolete weapons in return for the publicity they get. 🙂

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  331. FB says: • Website
    @Alfred

    There is no way the US, and the EU, will remain intact past 2032.

    I agree, Alfred. However we might define ‘intact,’ and whether it is a particular date or moment in history doesn’t even matter much, I think.

    What is obvious is that the US is very shaky house of cards already…a Ponzi Empire that is at the mercy of the world at large to continue bankrolling its existence.

    Consider what happens when the Chinese one fine day simply say, okay now we accept only yuan or gold for all the everyday stuff that you need for your existence. And on the same day tell the Arabs that China will only pay for oil in gold-backed yuan. What happens then? Who is going to even have the dollars to buy several trillion dollars a year in US government debt, the Treasury Bill IOUs? Which of course keeps the US solvent right now.

    Btw, thanks for that article on Britain’s nuclear subs that carry leased American Trident missiles. What is kind of funny and sad and indicative of where we are in terms of really knowing what’s going on is the obvious Overton window that that article is operating in.

    Yes, it is good that these things are even being discussed, but of course the most important piece of info being the fact that it is clear that the role of Britain is first and foremost as the primary sacrificial pawn, in case things get hairy with Russia. not merely the minutiae of the ‘nuclear agreement’ with the US.

    Nobody actually knows who exactly controls the ‘switch’ on those SLBMs, whether Britain, as various politicians would like us to believe, or in fact the US. That is a big dark secret.

    But now consider this scenario. What happens if Britain is in control, and launches those ICBMs at Russia at some point in war as I described previously, where US and Russia are trading shots with tactical nukes?

    We know beyond a doubt that both US and Russia operate on ‘launch on warning’ which means you launch a massive salvo as soon as you detect and confirm an ICBM headed your way. Even if it’s just one, because it could be an EMP that would disable your radars and electronics.

    Consider also that there is no way of Russia knowing whether that sub that just launched is American or British. So of course, the immediate response is to unleash the apocalypse–a full ICBM launch on the US.

    Now ask yourself this: would the US allow Britain to start the chain reaction that leads to the US getting destroyed? With ICBMs that the US actually owns but only leases to Britain?

    I think the answer is pretty obvious. Britain is the centerfold model of the sacrificial pawn. The US will first see this country completely erased before it steps back from the brink and saves its own ass. I’m sure the Russians have done the math and fully know this fact, and would thus be much more inclined to punish the designated pawn when it comes to trading blows.

    Now what do you think the populace would say if they came out and made that public?

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  332. MEexpert says:
    @BT

    There are no Soviets. Soviet Union was dissolved in the 90s,

  333. Bronek says:
    @Malla

    Read the battle for Koenigsberg. There’s a whole chapter about how Germany was recovering after the depression. It would’ve recovered even greater without any AH. He did improve the economy because of his military industrial endeavors.

    As for Russia wanting to attack Germany, that’s childish. It’s been disproven by just about every single individual with an IQ above 90. In fact, Stalin thought that Hitler would exhaust himself fighting the West. There are thousands of history/PoliSci books where info is taken from bureaucratic Nazi documentation that indicates Case White was is the initiative for invading Poland (several months before WWII). After that came initiatives for invading the Soviet Union (as noted in several Nazi leadership meetings). One Ukrainian fellow (I forgot his name at this time, as I’ve just had an operation and got out of a hospital), used a phony name and phony info in an effort to further thinking that Stalin wanted to invade Germany. Later, he even told others that his dream was to be president of Ukraine. I’ve been all over E. & W Germany, deem Germans -overall- are great people. I’ve spoke with ex-Eurocide II military personal, it too bad you couldn’t have heard them talk about the insanity on the hell of the Eastern Front. My Take: Without Eurocide II Germany today would be, if not the world leader, amongst the top three.

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  334. Parbes says:
    @annamaria

    We were talking about Hitler’s attack on the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, not “holobiz”.

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  335. Avery says:
    @Bronek

    {“Eurocide II”}

    Great (new) word to describe WW2.
    Very apropos.
    Kudos.

    And what a Eurocide it was.

  336. @Levtraro

    The nuclear winter means that NO-ONE can ‘prevail’ in a thermo-nuclear ‘exchange’.

  337. @annamaria

    In 1895 China was a basket-case. I don’t know if Mackinder was a racist supremacist, but it was, and still is, ubiquitous among Western ‘elites’. China’s power, if left unhindered, will grow to stupendous proportions, and, unlike the USA, they will not use it to ‘dominate’. Perhaps this obsession with power and domination arises from ritual penis mutilation. Who knows, but you need to deeply delve into sewers of unconscious and sub-conscious pathology to explain a cane-toad like Pompeo (and his scores of brother amphibians here in Austfailia).

  338. annamaria says:
    @Parbes

    And I found your Germanophobia childish.
    Germans have gifted humanity with the best in math, physics, music, philosophy… The 20th-century German supremacism had arisen in a historical context. See the story of WWI reparations. For instance, https://military.wikia.org/wiki/World_War_I_reparations

    …the principal representative of the British Treasury at the Paris Peace Conference, John Maynard Keynes, resigned from the Treasury in June 1919 in protest at the scale of the reparations demands…

    Many Germans came to the conclusion that the Treaty of Versailles was indeed punitive and “vindictive”, a view increasingly shared by opinion makers and politicians …. According to A.J.P. Taylor, the Versailles Treaty lacked “moral validity”

    https://treatyofvers.weebly.com/germanys-punishment.html

    There were 440 articles in the Treaty of Versailles, and 410 of them described Germany’s punishment…


    The proverbial cherry: https://www.realjewnews.com/?p=40

    ON MARCH 24 1933 on the front page of the London Daily Express, appeared the headline:” Judea Declares War On Germany: Jews Of All The World Unite.” The headline followed with: “The Israelite people of the world declare an economic war on Germany. It is not sufficient that we should buy no goods made in Germany. We must refuse to deal with any shopkeeper who sells any German-made goods. What we are proposing is to bring the German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence depends.

    More: http://jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/judeadeclareswar.pdf
    Today, it is the Russian Federation that has become an “Amalek”.

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  339. Parbes says:

    I am not “Germanophobic” per se. I just despise what Germans did with the Nazis and Hitler; the way they are as a country now; and their historic unremitting hostility towards Russians, Slavs and Orthodox Christians. I am aware of German history and accomplishments, post-World War I reparations etc., you don’t need to lecture me about those things. Your “Nazis dindu nuffin” position is quite stupid, frankly speaking. Reparations, bankers and Jews didn’t make Hitler attack the Soviet Union; untermenschen/lebensraum/drang nach osten ideology did.

    Are you Russian, or German? I was thinking that you were Russian, but maybe you’re German. It would explain a lot of things about the way you are.

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  340. Alfred says:
    @FB

    Now what do you think the populace would say if they came out and made that public?

    I have spent many years in the UK – mostly school and university (1962-1975). I also spent a few years there later (1998-2009). I was always quite skeptical about the place. At boarding school, as an ex-colonial, I had to put up with lots of jibes from other kids who thought that their empire was extant.

    However, the situation now is far worse. They have become the empire of pretense. Building dysfunctional aircraft carriers no less. Totally delusional. My few remaining friends in England believe all the nonsense on the BBC. It is almost a religious necessity in order to survive in that environment.

    Recently, I sent a link to an Irish lady in London to show that the Irish government has admitted that they have no proof of the existence of the Covid-19 virus – in reply to a much delayed FOI request by a lawyer. Her immediate reply was “Gemma O’Doherty is a certified lunatic. I have the pleasure of knowing her and can confirm that she’s crazy”

    Another friend, a retired GP, agreed with me on the phone some months ago that the vaccine is possibly dangerous and unnecessary. A bit later, he confessed that he had taken the first dose and was planning to soon take the second dose – “I know all about the dangers so there is no point telling me about them”.

    Clearly, survival is down on their list. They know that the BBC and the Daily Mail will defeat the Russians.

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  341. Levtraro says:
    @Parbes

    Quit regurgitating neo-Nazi revisionist history garbage pretending that you’re some kind of World War II European theater military expert – as an Indian, it makes you look really ridiculous.

    Worth mentioning too that the Führer himself explained in Mein Kapf in 1925-1926 that the plan was to extend the Lebensraum to the East, to Russia, explicitly. It was his plan all along. So many projects and dreams. All ended by a bullet in his head 20 years later, the raping of all German women east of Berlin by drunken Russians, and the destruction of Germany as a proud military nation.

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    , @Parbes
  342. Levtraro says:
    @Bronek

    There are thousands of history/PoliSci books where info is taken from bureaucratic Nazi documentation that indicates Case White was is the initiative for invading Poland (several months before WWII). After that came initiatives for invading the Soviet Union (as noted in several Nazi leadership meetings).

    Including the most authoritative of all documents: Hitler’s Mein Kampf.

  343. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    Any other commentary is just free flatulence of the kind we see in this silly article.

    Do you listen to yourself? Any other commentary except yours is flatulence. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Such hubris.

  344. Avery says:
    @annamaria

    You are correct that German people have given much to world’s civilization: higher math, physics, chemistry, engineering marvels, classical music and much more. We all are richer for it.

    And you are also correct that the Treaty of Versailles punitive punishments were quite vindictive. Even England and France tacitly acknowledged that: when Hitler annexed Austria and took German populated Sudetenland, both UK and France accepted it by signing off at Munich.
    But of course Hitler had a much bigger appetite: he wrote about Lebensraum in the East in his Mein Kampf. in 1925.

    Even now, it is astonishing to me that German government shows so much hostility to Russia. I don’t know how German people feel, but how could they be so hostile to Russia (Russians/Slavic peoples) after what Nazi Germans did to Soviet peoples (to Russians/Slavic peoples) ?

    It is very hard for a non-German like me to reconcile the strange phenomenon of the gifts that Germans have given human civilization with the barbarity they seem to descend to every so often.

    And WW2 was not the first time.
    Kaiser’s Germany is “credited” with the 1st genocide of 20th century, which to her credit Germany has acknowledged: the 1904 genocide of the indigenous Herero people of German South West Africa (now Namibia).

    Next, again to their credit, Germany acknowledged that their officers, military assisted Turks in organizing and carrying out the Armenian Genocide (and that of Christian Assyrians and Christian Pontic Greeks) of 1915-1923.

    Very strange: people who produced someone like Beethoven also produced mindless thugs like the Brown Shirts and the SS. I am not surprised that Turks are, well, Turks: they are the same nomad savages today that they were centuries ago when they invaded from their homelands around Uyguristan. They have given nothing to the world but destruction, mass-murder, abduction and rape of children, looting, arson, and…..Genocide. But the Germane people? What happened?

  345. Avery says:
    @Levtraro

    {“…the raping of all German women east of Berlin by drunken Russians”}

    All the German women?
    Do you have any verifiable sources to substantiate that charge?
    There is no doubt that German women were raped by Red Army troops, but ‘all’? as in millions of them? Where are all the 100s of 1,000s of children that those millions of rapes would have produced? Does not seem plausible.

    [Allied soldiers — including Canadians — raped thousands of German women after Second World War: research]
    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/allied-soldiers-including-canadians-raped-thousands-of-german-women-after-second-world-war-research

    [The Second World War in Europe ended when Nazi Germany signed an unconditional surrender on May 7, 1945. As the Allies gained control over the Western and Eastern Fronts in 1944 and 1945, German soldiers were not the only casualties. Recent historical research has revealed German women and girls were also targets, subjected en masse to a wide range of sexual violence allegedly committed by American, Canadian, British, French and Soviet soldiers.]

    [By the spring of 1945, Nazi Germany was crumbling and the Soviets were racing toward Berlin. The Red Army swept across the Eastern Front, first taking Poland, then East Prussia, Austria and Czechoslovakia. While sexual violence against German civilians was committed by all Allied powers, the Soviet rapes are considered the most prevalent and severe.
    The exact number of rapes is unknown, with estimates ranging from tens of thousands to millions. It is clear, however, that this violence was driven in no small part by a desire to exact revenge on the Germans for atrocities committed in the East, including mass sexual violence perpetrated against “non-Aryan” women.]

    ‘The exact number of rapes is unknown, with estimates ranging from tens of thousands to millions.’

    Estimates 10s of 1,000s to millions?
    So it’s basically a wild guess: nothing more.

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  346. Steven80 says:
    @FB

    Nobody actually knows who exactly controls the ‘switch’ on those SLBMs, whether Britain, as various politicians would like us to believe, or in fact the US. That is a big dark secret.

    There is a book from a Rand analyst Daniel Ellsberg, called ” The Doomsday Machinne”. He says as much as 10 persons in the US have the nuclear codes, most of them navy admirals responsible for carrier battle groups. At least this was the situation during the Cold war, as they were worried what would happen if the president and some branches of the military were eliminated.

    There’s pretty nice information about fatalities estimates that Rand were estimating for a potential ISBM nuclear exchange – it is truly horrifying it was still considered an option in the 60-es and 70-ies
    https://ibb.co/tXtQmvv

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  347. FB says: • Website
    @Parbes

    Are you Russian, or German? I was thinking that you were Russian, but maybe you’re German. It would explain a lot of things about the way you are.

    Ah yes…the curious case of our little ‘Annamaria.’

    Is she an earnest mädchen of the Hitler Jugend, reciting chapter and verse from Mein Kampf, while heel-clicking in perfect pizzicato cadence?

    Or is she a Russian patriot, dutifully carrying a framed photo of her uncle Serozhya in the Immortal Regiment march through the streets of Moscow each May 9?

    A curious case indeed? Perhaps she is both ‘Anna’ and ‘Maria’…as per the timid and shy Eve White, who tends to turn into the wild and wooly Eve Black at the drop of a hat.

    There’s more to ‘Annamaria’ than meets the eye!

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    , @Alfred
  348. Levtraro says:
    @Avery

    There is no doubt that German women were raped by Red Army troops, but ‘all’? as in millions of them? Where are all the 100s of 1,000s of children that those millions of rapes would have produced?

    They are all over Germany, in the current German population, as grandparents and great-grandparents. My guess is that the raping of all German women they could find was a policy coming from the highest levels of the Soviet hierarchy, and that something similar was happening in western Germany. It makes a lot of sense. Nazism was a racial ideology. Best way to deal with it is to spread alien genes amongst the German population. dilute the Aryan constitution. There were very few means to conduct abortions at those times and in post-war conditions so it is to be expected that many children were born from the rapes.

    I read about the intentional search for ALL women of reproductive age during the Soviet advance to Berlin in Antony Beevor’s “The Fall of Berlin”, Penguin Books, 2002, or in David Glantz and Jonathan House’s “When Titans Clashed”, The University Press of Kansas, 1995, I don’t remember exactly. I read that some Soviet officers tried to stop the rapes and wrote to their command but to no avail. Soviet soldiers explicitly searched for women of reproductive age in all places and they found them hiding in all sorts of conditions.

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    , @Alfred
  349. Smith says:
    @Alfred

    So the UK doesn’t control its own destiny.

    That’s fucked to say the least, provided this is true, FB at least has a point.

    • Agree: Alfred
  350. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    …the intentional search for ALL women of reproductive age during the Soviet advance to Berlin…

    That’s just ridiculous bullshit. Beevor is an anti-Russia hack. Col Glantz is a first-rate historian, but he certainly never wrote that there was any PLAN to dilute the German gene pool. What crackpottery!

    The Red Army rape issue has appeared only fairly recently in historiography, as part of the general anti-Russia smear campaign. Some rapes did occur as is to be expected in any war, but they were not condoned by the military and many perps were in fact summarily executed.

    It is a slander to any military to accuse them of widespread rape, since such a state of affairs would indicate loose discipline. This is completely nonfactual and Red Army officers were highly professional and kept up high morale and discipline, which is a big part of why they won.

    The likes of Beevor have an agenda to undermine the Soviet role in the war against the scourge of Nazism. This is all part of the ongoing campaign to rewrite history where it was the Americans who ‘won’ the war and even liberated Auschwitz, while the massive genocide against white European Slavs by Hitler is swept under the rug.

    It should be noted how Britain’s tune has changed over the years. From cheering the Red Army on lustily when the mighty sword of Hitler hung over helpless Albion, to later worms like Beevor trying to reinvent the entire thing.

    No country was more grateful to Russia and the Red Army than England when the outcome of all of Europe hung in the balance of those great battles on the Russian heartland.

    Churchill presents the Sword of Stalingrad to Stalin at the Tehran Conference.

    The bejewelled ceremonial longsword specially forged and inscribed by command of King George VI of the United Kingdom as a token of homage from the British people to the Soviet defenders of the city during the Battle of Stalingrad. On 29 November 1943.

    The news of the battle echoed round the world, with many people now believing that Hitler’s defeat was inevitable.

    The Daily Telegraph proclaimed that the victory had saved European civilisation. The country celebrated “Red Army Day” on 23 February 1943.

    We have come a long way indeed our shifting narratives!

    • Agree: Alfred
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    , @Avery
  351. @FB

    Annamaria is my favorite so you better tiptoe.

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  352. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    I am happy to elicit further illustrated comments from you.

    It is MY interpretation of the writings of several historians of the war in the Eastern front that there was a tacit condonement of the raping of German women by the Red Army during the march to Berlin, which was not formally reversed by Soviet officers until late in the campaign. I guess no historian will present this hypothesis as something worth of study, as it cannot be documented because of “tacit”. Beevor in fact attributes the widespread raping to “a dark area of male sexuality which can emerge too easily, especially in war, …” and to lack of discipline.

    So your comment made me check my library. It is a very big one and there is a large section on WWII. My grandma built it. You are right about one thing, it was Beevor’s book, not Glantz and House’s, that went into detail regarding the rapings of German women by the Red Army.

    You denigrate Beevor as an “anti-Russia hack”. In the Preface of his book “The Fall of Berlin 1945” he thanks Colonel Shuvashin of the Central Archive of the Russian Ministry of Defence, Dr. Natalia B. Volkova and her staff at the Russian State Archive for Literature and the Arts, Dr. Vladimir Kuzelenkov and Dr. V. Korotaev of the Russian State Military Archive, Prof. Kyrill M. Andersen and Dr. Oleg V. Naumov of the Russian State Archive for Social-Political History, and many other non-Russian sources. He thanked the hospitality in Russia of Drs. Galya and Luba Vinogradova and Prof. Anatoly A. Chernobayev. Beevor was digging down heavily on Russian and German archives, including many letters of common people and soldiers, to write his book. In addition he interviewed 16 Russian officers and civilian assisstant survivors of the war that participated in the march to Berlin, as well as German survivors and a few others. His book has 430 referenced footnotes. He writes in the Preface: “Many Soviet troops, especially in frontline formations, unlike those that came behind, often behaved with great kindness to German civilians.”

    Do you know that in the final days there were so many requests for abortion from German women refugees from the East because of rape by Russians that Bormann issued a directive to the effect that to approve abortions an officer of the Kriminalpolizei has to interrogate the woman? The Soviets even thought that Germans had infected their women with venereal diseases to harm the Red Army, that much widespread was the raping.

    Many rapists were shot on the spot, according to Beevor, because it was a break of discipline, as you correctly indicate. Yet repression of raping (and looting and other gratuitous violence against civilians) by Soviet officers was apparently very limited and as a formal Soviet policy it was instituted late in the march to Berlin.

    I have asked nearly all of my Russian friends about the raping of German women during the Red Army march to Berlin after a few shots of vodka with scumbria and siliotka with boiled potatos. The unanimous response: a smirk and a comment to the effect that they deserved what they got. I feel unable to contradict them, after what the Germans did in Russia, especially the SS, but still, these women were innocent.

    You are blinded by your Russophilia. The Russians can be as savage or more than any other military in war. This is a lesson that has to be well understood, especially by western warmongers and Russophobes.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Zarathustra
  353. Alfred says:
    @FB

    I really enjoyed “The Three Faces of Eve”. An amazing story.

    I have only ever had to handle the two-faced version. 🙂

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  354. Alfred says:
    @Levtraro

    There were very few means to conduct abortions at those times and in post-war conditions so it is to be expected that many children were born from the rapes.

    Not true. Since ancient times, women have known that a little very dilute vinegar in the right place destroys the sperm which is in a slightly alkaline fluid. Since the urethra is mildly acidic (urine), the penis ejaculates a neutralizing solution an instant before ejaculation.

    Sperm can survive for up to 5 days prior to fertilization. That is because the woman’s egg is fertile for a very brief period every month. Ideally, for fertilization, the sperm should be waiting for ovulation to occur.

    If you look online, there are many articles saying that vinegar is dangerous, that it does not work and so on. I am pretty sure that these articles are financed by the pharmaceutical industry and their allies. Obviously, the medical profession has always been against self-treatment.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  355. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    …but still, these women were innocent.

    Look, I’m the last guy who is going to condone the mistreatment of women.

    Rape is a serious crime and it did happen even in the Red Army. But to say that it was some kind of’ ‘tacit’ policy is completely groundless. I don’t think even Beevor said that, although he certainly did focus on this, while excluding the preceding context of the Nazi crimes, such as The Hunger Plan, a deliberate policy designed to literally starve to death tens of millions of Russian civilians.

    Herbert Backe, architect of the Nazi Hunger Plan for seizing foodstuffs and livestock en masse from occupied Russian territory. He committed suicide while awaiting trial at Nuremburg.

    Like you said, it is YOUR ‘interpretation’ that is the problem, even more than the dishonest Beevor, who does in fact have an agenda, despite all the window-dressing of serious scholarship.

    And I doubt very much that your Russian drinking buddies were among the ranks in the march to Berlin, so that means nothing except the general feeling of Russians when they are confronted by this canard, which is ‘they deserved it.’

    That may be true in a general sense, but not in the individual sense of any innocent woman that is mistreated. It’s unfortunate that the truth has become so muddied that we see the resort to such facile arguments.

    The simple fact is that it goes against logic that any military force would compromise discipline in such a foolhardy way as to let their soldiers run amok on such a large scale. It happened around the margins, yes, but measures were taken. That is a fact.

    As for my supposed ‘Russophilia’, I am more of a Sovietophile. Very little good has come from Gorbachev forward. Putin has done a decent job and at least stabilized things, but he is still nibbling at the edges, where in fact a wholesale reform is needed along the lines of lessons learned from the CCP. Not that it makes any difference to this particular topic at hand, but I felt it necessary to respond because you seem fond of jumping to conclusions.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @erzberger
  356. Levtraro says:
    @Alfred

    Interesting, but I guess German women at the time did not know they could stop those unwanted pregnancies with vinegar. According to the evidence gathered by Beevor from German archives, there were long queues of refugee German women waiting to get an abortion, many women tried abortions themselves which ended badly, and many completed their pregnancies and abandoned their Russkie babies in hospitals and orphanages.

  357. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    The raping was not a marginal thing, it was massive, but the Soviets understood in the end that it was bad for the war effort and tried to stop it. Beevor strikes me as a honest historian. His book here discussed has not been approved for circulation in Russia, although he was one of the first to get access to Soviet archival material in 1992. I like that he presents the war from the point of the view of the high officers as well as from the common soldier and civilians. This is something to be appreciated. His book on the Spanish civil war is also vey informative. So you are a commie. I respect what the CCP has achieved. Raising hundred of millions from poverty in such a short period of time is the greatest thing done by any government since … I don’t know when. They deserve the Nobel Peace Prize or the second-tier economics prize. The second greatest thing done by governments in my lifetime is what Putin has done in Russia, amazing feat indeed. I thought Russia was to become a cesspool of neoliberalism, jew depredations, and poverty, and then he came and turned around that colossal country to head it in the right direction. Bravo. Or like my Russian drinking buddies would say, hurrah! Spasibo bolshoi.

    • Replies: @FB
  358. Parbes says:
    @Levtraro

    “All German women east of Berlin” were not raped by “drunken Russians”, quit repeating neo-Nazi revisionist history propaganda memes like a retard. The Germans in the East were actually very LUCKY to have the Soviet troops as an occupying force and merely suffer a few scattered rapes at the end of World War II, after what the Nazis had done to the Soviet country and people for the five years prior. Any other victorious occupying army from any other nation – East or West, North or South – in the same situation, would have not just raped but exterminated all of them, razed their country to the ground and salted the earth.

    • Agree: FB
    • LOL: Levtraro
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Parbes
    , @Malla
  359. Alfred says:
    @FB

    No country was more grateful to Russia and the Red Army than England when the outcome of all of Europe hung in the balance of those great battles on the Russian heartland.

    The British remind me of the story of the scorpion and the frog.

    In WW2, when the Germans were advancing on Cairo, the family factory was the sole source of paint for the British Army. My Dad was one of only 3 main suppliers to the British. Frequently, he gave money to the British Red Cross. Afterwards, they gave him a certificate of thanks.

    A few years later, he and his brothers had a mining operation in Sinai. The British controlled the Suez Canal. The British stopped our trucks and workers from crossing the Canal. My Dad took the certificate of thanks and handed it in at the British Embassy. They relented and allowed his business to operate.

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  360. @Levtraro

    No!
    There were no individual rapes by Russians. Russians did not venture to go individually into population. If they ventured than they went in groups with some low rank officer.
    So there were very few rapes, and if it happened there were group rapes.
    And usually girls were all hiding in attic. There were on the ground only mothers ergo older women.
    So the rapes by Russian soldiers were really an exception to the rule.
    .

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  361. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    So you are a commie.

    Well, I’m glad that I know where to file your ‘material’ from now. I’m sometimes a little slow on the uptake…but eventually I get there.

    • LOL: Levtraro
  362. Smith says:

    I do think the pro-germans doth protest too much.

    After all, it was Stalin who maintained the very idea of Germany at all, the Western Allies wanted to dismantle it and reduced it to previous small city states/provinces.

    That would be more infinitely dangerous than any kind of rape.

    • Agree: Alfred, Levtraro
  363. Levtraro says:
    @Zarathustra

    So I have (a) your inestimable words here coming right out of your fingertips on the one hand, and (b) Beevor’s long and detailed examination of Soviet and German archives and witness interviews on the other hand. Who should I trust on this? Mmh.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  364. @Alfred

    Believe it or not, countries at war or proxy war often deal with each other on other fronts quite differently.

    I suppose that’s true in general, but it’s irrelevant to the fact that it makes no sense to claim the USSR was afraid to embarrass the US by revealing space race shenanigans but not afraid to openly aid the opponents of the US in a war that was tearing the country apart. The assassination of Lord Moyne in particular has zero relevance to the topic.

    • Replies: @FB
  365. Avery says:
    @FB

    {“Beevor is an anti-Russia hack”}

    He certainly is.

    Beevor and pretty much most, if not all, British ‘historians’ of WW2 are infamous for their (historic) anti-Russian bias, and their versions of WW2 are carefully manufactured, selective ‘history’: their books are written to minimize the role of the Red Army in defeating the Wehrmacht. And whenever they say something positive about the Red Army, they always throw in some canard to paint Russian in a negative light.

    Beevor in particular is notorious for being anti-Russian/anti-Red Army.
    He appears in many Youtube vids about WW2, and his anti-Russian bias is like a flashing neon sign: it is that obvious.

    • Agree: FB
  366. @Levtraro

    You can trust me because I did live through it. And I did have ears and eyes.
    We had a beautiful girl in village but she was a little bit kuku. When Russians were going through they did camp a for week nearby village. All girls were hiding in the attics but this girl was walking around undisturbed. And so because she did not understand anything she did behave totally bold. No one Russian did touch her. But than there was not one rape in the village.
    ( the girl did become a heroine of the village.)
    …………………………………………………..
    The historians do have a second hand knowledge, but newer historians have now fourth or even even fifth hand knowledge. So the historical truth get unfortunately more distorted in following generation.
    …………………………………………………….
    Personally I did hear only one gang rape. In this case middle age women was sunbathing near the river. Maybe I will sound cinical, but I will still say it: Maybe she wanted it.

    • Thanks: FB
    • Replies: @FB
    , @Levtraro
  367. FB says: • Website
    @Ray Caruso

    …it makes no sense to claim the USSR was afraid to embarrass the US by revealing space race shenanigans…

    There was nothing to ‘reveal.’ The space race has always worked on the honor system. The USSR had no way to confirm that the US landed men on the moon. It could therefore also not disprove it.

    But Alfred is right in saying that they are separate issues. Despite the cold war and despite the USSR being the main supporter of Vietnam, the rivalry in space was friendly and continues to be such. For instance the Apollo-Soyuz docking in 1975.

    As an aerospace engineer with a good technical base on the specifics of spaceflight and space hardware, I have to say I have my doubts about the moon landing. The US was hugely behind in engine technology which is the key. They still are, which is why they buy them from Russians. Consider that the Saturn V only flew a grand total of 13 times. That’s just barely a start for getting a new engine program going. Yet it is supposed to include six moon landings.

    But a couple of years later, when they launched Skylab to try to match the Russian advances in space stations, they couldn’t get Apollo to fly up there and keep it in orbit, and Skylab came down, burning up in the atmosphere. For more than five years the US could not even fly into space at all until they got the Shuttle working. Why didn’t they keep flying Apollo-Saturn if it was good enough to get them to the moon?

    The Russian Proton rocket developed in the same timeframe has flown to space over 400 times so far, and is still going. The bigger Zenit, using engines bigger than the F1 on the Saturn V has flown into space nearly 100 times. It makes no sense to abandon the Saturn V and those F1 engines after 13 flights, if they were indeed as successful as claimed.

    The biggest mystery to me though is the human factor. I have watched a lot of post-flight press conferences–Shuttle flights, Soyuz-ISS flights etc. Those astronauts and cosmonauts that have just returned from space are visibly walking on cloud nine, especially the ones that just completed
    their first spaceflight.

    And then there is Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins, after returning from man’s first walk on the moon: or did the moon land on them? You be the judge.

  368. Avery says:
    @Parbes

    {“…. after what the Nazis had done to the Soviet country and people for the five years prior”}

    Quite true.

    Nazi invaders (collateral)killed, outright murdered, burnt to death villagers in closed barns, summarily hanged villagers who had supposedly helped partisans, and on, and on, and on. At the horrific Siege of Leningrad alone, Nazis deliberately starved the civilians and children to death. Apartment buildings were firebombed by the Nazis to kill and terrorize civilians. About 1- 1.5 million civilians were killed by the Nazis: starved to death, killed by aerial bombs, artillery barrages,….

    About 15 million Soviet civilians, overwhelmingly Russians/Slavic peoples, lost their lives as a result of the Nazi criminal invasion. Plus the 10 million or so mostly (young) men Soviet soldiers and fighters.

    I have had this discussion a while back with a poster at Unz.com who regularly cries rivers of crocodile tears over the supposed ‘millions’ of German women raped by the Red Army “beasts”, without ever mentioning the atrocities of Nazis in USSR.

    I asked him/her: assuming very large numbers of German women _were_ raped by the Red Army troops, and unequivocally accepting that rape is a horrific, ugly crime against women: what would be preferable; to be raped and live, or be raped and murdered – as many Russian (village) women were by the Nazis?

    Or be cooked alive ?

    Germans’ Anglo-Saxon kin burnt German civilians alive – women, children, old men – as a revenge for what Nazis did to the British civilians during the blitz.: a mere fraction of what Nazis had done to the civilians of Soviet Union. Estimates of German civilians cooked alive during the Dresden and Hamburg firebombing were about 100,000. Although Anglo-American ‘historians’ have methodically reduced that number over the years.

    British ‘historians’ carefully avoid publicizing their war crimes against German civilians, but deliberately exaggerate Red Army rapes into millions. The magicians classic misdirection trick.

    When the Red Army crossed the German border, they had the power to do a 100 Dresdens: nothing and nobody could stop them.: the mighty Wehrmacht was reduced to 15 year old boys and senior citizens. But they didn’t. The most serious charge against the Red Army is the supposed “mass rapes of millions of German women”. While Anglo-Americans carefully avoid publicizing their documented horrific war-crimes.

    In one of the threads, poster [Carlton Meyer] documents another firebombing war crime, which I had no idea about (…..how many people even knew/know about it?).

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/shock-and-awe-is-a-state-of-mind-millions-of-deaths-have-not-made-americans-safer/#comment-4593213

    [but the most heinous was the slaughter of 23,000 refugees packed into the small coastal resort of Swinemunde at the end of the war, and the bombing of farming towns once cities were destroyed.]

    • Thanks: FB
    • Replies: @FB
    , @Zarathustra
    , @Parbes
    , @Jazman
  369. FB says: • Website
    @Zarathustra

    I do greatly enjoy your comments. One never knows what to expect from you, 😂!

    Like this:

    In this case middle age women was sunbathing near the river. Maybe I will sound cinical, but I will still say it: Maybe she wanted it.

    No comment. I’m just glad that you have managed to stick around for all these years. Thanks!

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  370. FB says: • Website
    @Avery

    It’s not just German civilians and cities and towns that the US bombed mercilessly. This callous behavior would be repeated again and again through the following decades.

    The US dropped seven million tons of bombs on Vietnam, which was twice the total the allies dropped on Germany in WW2. Korea was likewise bombed into the stone age. There was literally not a building left standing in any town or even village.

    ‘Over a period of three years or so, we killed off — what — 20 percent of the population,’ Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War would later brag.

    The US War Crime that North Korea Won’t Forget

    Bombing of North Korea

    Gen Curtis Lemay

    That’s always been, and continues to be the US warfighting ‘strategy’, if you can call it that…to massively punish civilians, and almost exclusively from the air. They did that in Serbia in 1999, targeting schools, hospitals, bridges, trains etc. They could not even defeat the small and obsolete, but stubborn and competent Serb air defenses, however, despite the combined might of Nato airpower and over 1,000 aircraft.

    It was the same in Iraq for years, during the no-fly-zone decade, and then the subsequent invasion. Same in Libya etc.

    For all of that bombing, the US army has not shown itself to be able to actually fight. In Korea, despite having complete control of the skies, the Chinese, when they waded in, made quick work of the US forces and their coalition allies.

    …the Chinese intervened and drastically changed the character of the war. Eighth Army was decisively defeated at the Battle of the Chongchon River and forced to retreat all the way back to South Korea. The defeat of the U.S. Eighth Army resulted in the longest retreat of any U.S. military unit in history.

    The Chinese broke through the U.S. defenses despite U.S. air supremacy and the Eighth Army and U.N. forces retreated hastily to avoid encirclement. The Chinese offensive continued pressing U.S. forces, which lost Seoul, the South Korean capital. Eighth Army’s morale and esprit de corps hit rock bottom, to where it was widely regarded as a broken, defeated rabble.

    A broken, defeated rabble…at the hands of the Chinese, circa 1950.

    –Eighth United States Army

    In World War Two, the Germans in early 1945, despite having been completely broken by the Red Army that was already on the steps of Berlin, were still able to throw the US-UK forces back in the Ardennes Offensive, aka Battle of the Bulge.

    In the Pacific Theater, the Red Army was able to roll up the million-man Jap army in Manchuria in just over a week, leaving Russian generals scratching their heads just how the US had such a hard time with them in the Philippines and Indonesia.

    And so it goes. The US is a military that has never been able to fight well, just bomb civilians, as Hiroshima and Nagasaki underline. They would like to pull the same MO against Russia today, but they are stymied.

    • Agree: Avery
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  371. @Avery

    The claim that millions of German women were raped is a nonsense.
    Most of German kids (Hitlerjugent) had personal arms at home. Russian soldiers were glad to survive the war. The idea that they would go into German homes to rape German women, and risk to be shot
    is simply preposterous. STUPID.

  372. Parbes says:
    @Avery

    Yes, exactly. All of what you wrote here is true down to the last word.

    • Thanks: Avery
  373. Parbes says:
    @Parbes

    To the neo-Nazi meme-spreading idiot “Levtraro”: What’s the “LOL”, moron? Go “LOL” your dumbass so-called “Fuehrer”, who destroyed Germany with his stupidity.

    • LOL: Levtraro
  374. Jazman says:
    @Avery

    Look at this , they prise use of nuclear bomb like it is something good for Japanese people
    This right wingers want to tell us they did great job

    https://www.prageru.com/video/was-it-wrong-to-drop-the-atom-bomb-on-japan/

  375. @FB

    Yankee ‘warrior’ cowardice is legendary. I don’t doubt that they would fight bravely in their own homeland, hopefully against each other, but everywhere else they prefer cowardly slaughter from the air, death-squads and massacres on the ground, and picking tough enemies like Cuban airfield workers in Grenada. It’s a lot easier on Hollywood ‘block-busters’. They’re real tough there.

    • Agree: FB, Jazman
  376. Levtraro says:
    @Zarathustra

    You can trust me because I did live through it. And I did have ears and eyes.

    Seriously, you lived in eastern Germany on January-April 1945? That is 76 years ago. Assuming you were 10 at the time you are now 86. Congrats on such a long life, you are older than my Grandma.

    So how side were you? I guess not with the Soviets because you speak of “the Russians”. And why were all the girls hiding in the atticks? Please go tell more stories from that time and location. I am very interested in what you may remember 😉

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  377. I do have a surprise for you.
    I am not at any side. I am on the side of the truth. I call it as I see it and know it.
    Anybody who is “ON SIDE” eventually start to resort to small lie first, than this small lie grows into big lie, and the person will loose its way.
    If you want to respected you must speak the truth as you see it.

  378. @Levtraro

    And I do have even better surprise for you.
    Why those girls were hiding in attic?
    The time changes the culture. So you must understand that.
    Girls at those times terrified of loosing their virginity.
    If after wedding the newly wed husband did find out that his wife was not virgin he did ask for dissolution of marriage.
    Naturally it seems ridiculous by today’s society standards.
    That is why today’s budding historians cannot understand really history.
    Today’s girls are eager to loose their virginity.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  379. Levtraro says:
    @Zarathustra

    What about your memories of the time when you were in Eastern Germany in January-April 1945? Frankly, I think you lied about being there, in Eastern Germany in January-April 1945. But you tend to write fairly funny things so your claim can be archived in the jokes section.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  380. Malla says:
    @Parbes

    Quit regurgitating neo-Nazi revisionist history garbage

    Stop farting official WW2 victors history. Hitler feared a Soviet preemptive strike. His speech to the German people as well as his private conversation with Finnish general Mannheim attest to this fact.

    as an Indian, it makes you look really ridiculous.

    How so?

    Stalin did everything he could to avert war with Nazi Germany, up to agreeing to divide Poland, just to try to create a buffer between the Nazis and the Soviet Union.

    Stalin wanted the conquest of all Europe. He wanted Germany to exhaust itself and he would suddenly attack and make himself look like the liberatodfo Europe.

    In fact, he deluded himself so much that he had reached an agreement with them preventing a war, that he was initially shocked and paralyzed when the first news of the Nazi armies

    Typical bullshit. He was shocked and paralysed because he did not expect Hitler to smartly make the first move before he made his move. His plans were destroyed.

    Hitler and his Nazis were motivated by the ideology of “untermenschen” Slavs and Russians, “lebensraum” for the slated-to-aggressively-expand German nation,

    This Untermenchen nonsens has been debunked many times on Unz.
    You were taught propaganda history and you vomit it here. There has been an entire industry on writing shit about Germany nd Japan during Ww2.

    Hitler had ALREADY attacked and overrun several European countries.

    So had the Soviets. Hitler had reason for every invasion he made. Hitler did not want war at that time. He wanted to create his Nationalist Socialist System. it is obvious that the bankers did not want that to happen.

  381. Malla says:
    @Avery

    after Stalin realized that this was no provocation, but the Real McCoy, he went into a shock, and hid in his room: incommunicado.

    He went into a shock because he could not believe that Hitler had preemptively attacked him before he could have his attack on Central and Western Europe

    • Replies: @Avery
  382. FB says: • Website
    @Malla

    When we want to hear about The Great Patriotic War from a ‘Malla’ we’ll let you know, okay?

    • LOL: Jazman
    • Replies: @Malla
  383. @Malla

    Oh for Christ’s sake, it can’t all be war time propaganda. The Japanese were eating Indians and other POWs and evidence just keeps piling even long long after the war when there is no further need for this propaganda:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/japanese-troops-ate-flesh-enemies-and-civilians-1539816.html

    Or in handwritten memoirs of a POW himself:

    So yeah to you all accounts of Allied POWs, Jews in concentration camps, civilians in occupied territories are all absolute lies, all concocted by all of them simultaneously from locations all over the world under direction of Churchill or whoever else was telling them what precisely to write so as to blacken the Krauts and Japs in their testimonies. Now how credible is that?

    • Replies: @Malla
  384. Malla says:
    @FB

    When we want to see your idiotic pointless comments here, we will let you know, okay.
    Take a break till then.
    BTW a message from a local RSS sahka pracharak after he saw that cartoon for you.
    “Teri randi maa ke choot me mera badbudaar lund”
    Regards.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Avery
  385. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Oh for Christ’s sake, it can’t all be war time propaganda. T

    A lot of it was war propaganda. BTW Indian judge Radhabinod Pal in the Tokyo trials representing India argued that the United States had clearly provoked the war with Japan and expected Japan to act. He argued that “Even contemporary historians could think that ‘as for the present war, the Principality of Monaco, the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg, would have taken up arms against the United States on receipt of such a note (Hull note) as the State Department sent the Japanese Government on the eve of Pearl Harbor.’” He also noted that “Questions of law are not decided in an intellectual quarantine area in which legal doctrine and the local history of the dispute alone are retained and all else is forcibly excluded. We cannot afford to be ignorant of the world in which disputes arise. He held the view that the legitimacy of the Tokyo trials was suspect and questionable, because the spirit of retribution, and not impartial justice, was the underlying criterion for passing the judgment. Failure of the Tribunal to provide anything other than the opportunity for the victors to retaliate.” Judge Pal refers to the trial as a “sham employment of legal process for the satisfaction of a thirst for revenge.” That the published accounts of Nanking ‘rape’ could not be accepted by the world without some suspicion of exaggeration…” In this he was not alone among Indian jurists of the time; one prominent Calcutta barrister wrote that the Tribunal was little more than “a sword in a wig”

  386. FB says: • Website
    @Malla

    Look clown, you have zero knowledge about anything, especially WW2 history. Your tiresome bloviating here only serves to show that you suffer some sort of mental disorder.

    • Replies: @Malla
  387. Levtraro says:
    @Malla

    This Untermenchen nonsens has been debunked many times on Unz.
    You were taught propaganda history and you vomit it here. There has been an entire industry on writing shit about Germany nd Japan during Ww2.

    Have you read Mein Kampf? That is not propaganda by the victorious Red Army. Hitler writes there explicitly that he wants to expand Germany into Russia. It was his plan all along. Great plan! It ended with a bullet in his head.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  388. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    It’s not just Mein Kampf. David Irving, who is objectively considered the authoritative Hitler biographer, has written extensively that conquest of the east was the core motivation and ideology of Hitler throughout the entirety of his career.

    Besides Mein Kampf which speaks about the obsession of conquering Russia, Irving brings forth massive documentation, including minutes of meetings through the years etc. All this based on archival material that no one else has even remotely approached in terms of sheer volume and detail. The overarching ambition of the entire Nazi project was subjugation of Russia by means of a massive war of aggression. All the rest was just side dishes and appetizers.

    I have not read the Irving books, but I have read substantive reviews that highlight many passages within this theme. Only a complete retard, of the kind that hang around this website’s comment section, could argue against this. If I have some time I will try to find some of this Irving material and share some here.

    Btw, I don’t think you are doing yourself a favor by being rude with Zarathustra. He is very definitely an old guy from that part of Europe and nothing he has ever presented here has given anyone any cause to doubt his sincerity. Maybe you should consider that Beevor is indeed an anti-Russia hack, which is in fact far more likely than all the points to the contrary that have been brought out here.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  389. Avery says:
    @Malla

    {“When we …..”}

    We?

    Who is “we”, homes?
    I understand you are Indian – Hindu?


    unz.com is run by an American (….of Jewish ancestry).
    All sorts of people from all over the world post comments here.
    But pretty grandiose of youse to assume the mantle of “we”, don’t youse think?

    I am of Armenian ancestry, happily naturalized US citizen.
    I don’t presume to lecture other posters @UNZ.com whether we want to see…..”

    As to the subject at hand: WW2, USSR, Hitler, Stalin, etc, etc, etc.
    It is clear you know nothing about it, and are just filling space with your illogical, vacuous comments. Fine. It’s an open forum: as long as UNZ.com moderators go along, we all can spout whatever sense or nonsense we care to spout.

    I wouldn’t presume to comment on India-Pakistan issues, because I know squat about it.
    But you apparently have the baseless, exaggerated self -confidence to offer the readers of UNZ.com your lack of knowledge about WW2, Hitler, Stalin, USSR,…………

    • Agree: Levtraro
  390. Malla says:
    @FB

    Listen monkey, you can shove your idiotic propaganda and your cartoons up your ass. You are a prime grade idiot who does not understand how the world works, larp your “revolutionaries” fighting imperialists games in your mother’s basement.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  391. Malla says:
    @Levtraro

    Have you read the link I provided above which debunks this lebensraum nonsense?

    This is the English translation of the private conversion in between the Fuhrer of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler and the Finnish military leader and statesman, Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim . This was secretly recorded.

    Adolf Hitler:…a very serious danger, perhaps the most serious one – its whole extent we can only now judge. We did not ourselves understand-just how strong this state [the USSR] was armed.
    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim:No, we hadn’t thought of this.

    [MORE]

    Adolf Hitler: No, I too, no.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: During the Winter War -during the Winter War we had not even thought of this. Of course….

    Adolf Hitler: (Interrupting) Yes.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: But so, how they – in reality – and now there is no doubt all they had – what they had in their stocks!

    Adolf Hitler: Absolutely. this is – they had the most immense armaments that, uh, people could imagine. Well – if someone had told me that a country – with…..
    If somebody had told me a nation could start with 35,000 tanks, then I’d have said:”You are crazy!”

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: Thirty-five?

    Adolf Hitler: Thirty-five thousand tanks.

    Another voice in background: Thirty-five thousand tanks! Yes!

    Adolf Hitler: We have destroyed – right now – more than 34,000 tanks. If someone had told me this, I’d have said:”You!” If you are one of my generals had stated that any nation has 35,000 tanks I’d have said:”You, my good sir, you can see everything twice or ten times. You are crazy; you see ghosts.”
    This I would have deemed possible. I told you earlier we found factories, one of them in Kramatorskaja, for example. Two years ago there were just a couple a hundred [tanks]. We didn’t know anything.
    Today there is a tank plant, where-during the first shift a little more than 30,000 and ’round the clock a little more than 60,000, workers would have laboured – a single tank plant! A gigantic factory! masses of workers who certainly lived like animals and….
    [Hitler voice shows shock and compassion for the Soviet workers when talking about them living like animals].

    Another voice in background: (Interrupting) In the Donets area?

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: Well, if you keep in mind they had almost 20 years, almost 25 years of – freedom to arm themselves….

    Adolf Hitler: (Interrupting quietly) it was unbelievable.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: And everything -everything spent on armament.

    Adolf Hitler: Only on armament.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: Only on armament!

    Adolf Hitler: (Sighs) Only – well, it is – as told your president [Ryte] before – I had no idea of it. If I had an idea – then I would have been even more difficult on me, I would have taken the decision [to invade] anyhow, because there was no other possibility. It was – certain, already in the winter of ’39/’40, that the war had to begin. I had only this nightmare – but there is even more! Because a war on two fronts – would have been impossible – that would have broken us.
    Today, we see more clearly – than we saw at that time – it would have broken us. And my whole – I originally wanted to – already in the fall of ’39 I wanted to conduct the campaign in the west – on the continuously bad weather we experienced hindered us.
    Our whole armament – you know, was – is a pure good weather armament. It is very capable, very good, but it is unfortunately just a good-weather armament. We have seen this in the war. Our weapons naturally were made for the West, and we all thought, and this was true’till that time, uh, it was the opinion from the earliest times; you cannot wage war in winter.
    And we too, have, the German tanks, they weren’t tested, for example, to prepare them for winter war. Instead we conducted trials to prove it was impossible to wage war in winter.
    That is a different starting point [than the Soviet’s]. In the fall of 1939 we always faced the question. I desperately wanted to attack, and I firmly believed we could have finished France in six weeks.
    However we faced the question of whether we could move at all – it was raining continuously. And I know the French area myself very well and I too could not ignore the opinions, of many of my generals that, we – probably – would not have had the, that our tank arm would not have been, effective, that our air force could not been effective from our airfields because of the rain.
    I know northern France myself. You know, I served in the Great War for four years. And – so the delay happened. If I had in ’39 eliminated France, then world history would have changed. But I had to wait ’till 1940 and unfortunately it wasn’t possible before May. Only on the 10th of May I immediately attacked. I gave the order to attack on the 10th on the 8th. And – then we had to, conduct this huge transfer of our divisions from the west to the east.
    First the occupation of – then we had the task in Norway – at the same time we faced – I can frankly say it today – a grave misfortune, namely the weakness of, Italy. Because of – first, the situation in North Africa, then second, because of the situation in Albania and Greece – a very big misfortune. We had to help. This meant for us, with one small stoke, first – the splitting of our air force, splitting of our tank force, while at the same time we were preparing, the, tank arm in the east.
    We had to hand over – with one stroke, two divisions, two whole divisions and a third was added – and we had to replace continuous, very severe, losses there. It was – bloody fighting in the desert.
    This all was inevitable, you see. I had a conversation with Motolov [Soviet Minister] at that time, and it was absolutely certain at that time, and it was absolutely certain that Motolov departed with the decision to begin a war, and I dismissed the decision to have a war, and I dismissed him with the decision to – impossible, to forestall him. There was – this was the only – because the demands that man brought up was clearly aimed to rule Europe in the end. (Practically whispering here.) Then I have him – not publicly… (fades out).
    Already in the fall of 1940 we continuously faced the question, uh: shall we, consider a break up [in relations with the USSR]? At that time, I advised the Finnish government, to negotiate and, to gain time and, to act dilatory in this matter – because I always feared – that Russia suddenly would attack Romania in the late fall – and occupy the petroleum wells, and we would have not been ready in the late fall of 1940. If Russia indeed had taken Romanian petroleum wells, then Germany would have been lost. It would have required – just 60 Russian divisions to handle that matter.
    In Romania we had of course- at that time – no major units. The Romanian government had turned to us only recently – and what we did there was laughable. They had only to occupy the petroleum wells. Of course, with our weapons I could not start a, war in September or October.
    That was out of the question. Naturally, the transfer to the east wasn’t that far advanced yet. Of course, the units first had to reconsolidate in the west.
    First the armaments had to be taken care of because we too had – yes, we also had losses in our campaign in the west. It would have been impossible to attack – before the spring of 1941. And if the Russians at that time – in the fall of 1940 – had occupied Romania – taken the petroleum wells, then we would have been, helpless in 1941.

    Another Voice in background: Without petroleum…

    Adolf Hitler: (Interrupting) We had huge German production: however, the demands of the air force, our Panzer divisions – that are really huge. It is level of consumption that surpasses the imagination. And without the addition of four to five million tons Romanian petroleum, we could not have fought the war – and would have had to let it be – and that was my big worry.
    Therefore I aspired to, bridge the period of negotiations’till we would be strong enough to, counter those extortive demands [from Moscow] because – those demands were simply naked extortion’s. They were extortion’s. The Russians knew we were tied up in the west.
    They could really extort everything from us.
    Only when Molotov visited – then I told him frankly that the demands, their numerous demands, weren’t acceptable to us. With that the negotiations came to an abrupt end that same morning.
    There were four topics. The one topic that, involved Finland was, the freedom to protect themselves from the Finnish threat, he said.[I said] You do not want to tell me Finland threatens you! But he said: “In Finland it is – they who take action against the, friends, of the Soviet Union. They would [take action] against [our] society, against us – they would continuously, persecute us and, a great power cannot be threatened by a minor country.”
    I said:”Your, existence isn’t threatened by Finland! That is, you don’t mean to tell me….”

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: (Interrupting) Laughable!

    Adolf Hitler: “…that your existence is threatened by Finland?” Well [he said] there was a moral – threat being made against a great power, and what Finland was doing, that was a moral – a threat to their moral existence.
    Then I told him we would not accept a further war in the Baltic area as passive spectators. In reply he asked me how we viewed our position, in Romania.
    You know, we had given them a guarantee. [He wanted to know] if that guarantee was directed against Russia as well? And that time I told him: “I don’t think it is directed at you, because I don’t think you have the intention of attacking Romania. You have already stated that Bessarabia is yours, but that you have – never stated that you want to attack Romania!”

    “Yes,”he told me, but he wanted to know more precisely if this guarantee…

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  392. Malla says:
    @Levtraro

    Fuhrer of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler talking in his everyday voice to Finnish military commander Mannerheim in 1942.
    Thor Damen, an engineer for the Finnish broadcasting company Yle, recorded the first 11 minutes of Hitler and Mannerheim’s private conversation.

    He also mentions to Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim

    “Our whole armament – you know, was – is a pure good weather armament. It is very capable, very good, but it is unfortunately just a good-weather armament. We have seen this in the war. Our weapons naturally were made for the West, and we all thought, and this was true’till that time, uh, it was the opinion from the earliest times; you cannot wage war in winter.
    And we too, have, the German tanks, they weren’t tested, for example, to prepare them for winter war. Instead we conducted trials to prove it was impossible to wage war in winter.”

  393. FB says: • Website
    @Malla

    Look at this stream of diarrhea from the little Calcutta street urchin. Do you think anyone is actually going to read your incoherent, schizophrenic babble?

    I tried reading your claptrap at one point, and quickly realized you are deranged. Don’t you have anything better to do, slumdog? Like begging for rupees?

    • LOL: Jazman
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    , @Malla
  394. @Malla

    Considering the plans Hitler and the Nazis had for Eastern Europe and Russia, which were known to everyone since Mein Kampf, whatever the Soviet Union did or was preparing to do was justified, and it should have acted more deliberate, like taking the Ploesti oil field and depriving Germany of this source of fuel – it would have saved millions of lives and averted the widespread destruction the Germans brought to the east.

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    , @erzberger
  395. Levtraro says:
    @Levtraro

    I’ve been told by FB that I was kind of rude to you and if that was how you felt it at your end then I present my sincere apologies. I appreciate your comments, always have, they are very original and that counts a lot in my book.

  396. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    Yes, there is evidence everywhere, from the 20s, of Hitler planning to invade Russia for Lebensraum. He actually wrote that this was his plan, ffs! Those arguing that Hitler conducted a pre-emptive strike instead of executed a long-thought invasion plan have just not read enough or are not sincere.

    Beevor has a website (antonybeevor.com). There are some interviews there. One is with Russian historian Dr. Artem Drabkin. Watch that interview if you find the time. It’s about 1 h long. They talk about the rapes in the seconf half. Watch Drabkin’s response when they talk about it. He knows it is true but he try to say it is more revenge than anything else. Beevor relates how he got the info from NKVD reports deep inside the Soviet archives. Perhaps Beevor is biased anti-Soviet or anti-communist, but a hack he is not. He deserves to be taken seriously.

    Regarding the fellow commenter with the Persian nick, Zarathustra, you might well be right. I apologized for having doubted his asserions.

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  397. Levtraro says:
    @Malla

    Malla, you are talking about a commenter that writes densely informative comments while you, well, you weight less that a bag of popped popcorn, no offence.

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  398. @FB

    Well?
    Maybe Mala is Calcutta street Urchin, but now she is now London street Urchin because she resides in England. (She has English accent.)
    Because you are nice to me I will let you on big secret. But nobody else may read it.

    • LOL: FB, Levtraro
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  399. @Levtraro

    Dear young man!
    Are you certain that you are not mixing up the Zarathustra (German) with Zoroastrian (Persian)

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  400. Levtraro says:
    @Zarathustra

    Regarding you, I am not certain about anything.

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  401. Levtraro says:
    @Levtraro

    And I mean that in a good way 😉

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  402. Malla says:
    @FB

    Look at this stream of diarrhea from the little Calcutta street urchin.

    Listen you stupid monkey. I know it feels cool to larp anti-fa in Murrica when you have the police and American deep state protecting your ass. Take your monkey business here in India, and have a real fight. Our macho mustachio thags would rape your White pussyboy ass, you would be peeing in your panties. They would even rape your pretty feminine White Communist ass with their macho smelly brown Hindutva dicks and maybe you would spend your remaining years as a nautchgirl in some Indian slum as a pretty pussyboy bitch of some macho mustachiod thug. You could try to teach your Indian man somethign about WW2 when he dumps his load in your feminine ass.

    Don’t you have anything better to do, slumdog? Like begging for rupees?

    Don’t you want to give your preety feminine White commie ass to your thaggard moustachiod Indian man. You sure do. Come Come. We arrange it for you.

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    , @JohnnyWalker123
  403. Malla says:
    @Levtraro

    If you wanna kiss FB’s preety butt (just filled in by thaggard Indian smelly dick) you are free to do so. Kisisng butt is not my hobby.

    Anyways moving on

    Wilhelm Keitel, Field Marshal and Chief of Germany’s armed forces High Command, spoke about the German fears during a postwar interrogation:

    All the preparatory measures we took before spring 1941 were defensive measures against the contingency of a possible attack by the Red Army. Thus the entire war in the East, to a known degree, may be termed a preventive war … We decided … to forestall an attack by Soviet Russia and to destroy its armed forces with a surprise attack. By spring 1941, I had formed the definite opinion that the heavy buildup of Russian troops, and their attack on Germany which would follow, would place us, in both economic and strategic terms, in an exceptionally critical situation … Our attack was the immediate consequence of this threat …”

    In 1941, Admiral N. G. Kuznetsov was the Soviet Navy minister, as well as a member of the Central Committee of the Soviet Communist Party. In his postwar memoirs, published in 1966, he recalled:

    “For me there is one thing beyond all argument — J. V. Stalin not only did not exclude the possibility of war with Hitler’s Germany, on the contrary, he considered such a war … inevitable … J. V. Stalin made preparations for war … wide and varied preparations — beginning on dates … which he himself had selected. Hitler upset his calculations.”

    Suvorov comments:

    “The admiral is telling us quite clearly and openly that Stalin considered war inevitable and prepared himself seriously to enter it at a time of his own choosing. In other words, Stalin was preparing to strike the first blow, that is to commit aggression against Germany; but Hitler dealt a preventive blow first and thereby frustrated all Stalin’s plans …

    “Let us compare Keitel’s words with those of Kuznetsov. Field Marshal Keitel said that Germany was not preparing an aggression against the Soviet Union; it was the Soviet Union which was preparing the aggression. Germany was simply using a preventive attack to defend itself from an unavoidable aggression. Kuznetsov says the same thing — yes, the Soviet Union was preparing for war and would inevitably have entered into it, but Hitler disrupted these plans with his attack. What I cannot understand is why Keitel was hanged [at Nuremberg], and Kuznetsov was not.”

    Anyway, when Hitler did launch his preemptive strike against Soviet Russia, Roosevelt and Churchill immediately sided with Stalin, and when the Red Army took half of Europe in 1944-45, neither the British nor the American leader objected.

    What can now be stated with certainty — thanks to the work of Suvorov and other revisionist historians — is that in smashing the great Soviet military buildup in 1941, Hitler dashed Stalin’s plan to quickly conquer Central & Western Europe, and that, in spite of his defeat in 1945, Hitler saved at least the western half of Europe, and tens of millions of people, from the horrors of Soviet subjugation.

  404. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    Getting back to the topic at hand, which is the possibility of a Russia-Nato war over Ukraine.

    I laid out in previous comments in this thread what might happen, for instance here, where I pulled out a Soviet battle plan in Central Europe from the 1980s, and gamed out what might happen today if Nato wades into a Ukrainian war against the Russian breakaway republics in Eastern Ukraine:

    But refer back to the Soviet battle plan above. The Russian response will also involve a quick ground force invasion of, almost certainly, the Baltic statelets, since those territories separate Kaliningrad from mainland Russia. And also almost certainly taking all of Ukraine, and most likely the eastern half of Poland, east of the Vistula river.

    Now this scenario did not come out of nowhere. It is in fact a scenario that is gamed actively in US military circles. For instance this RAND paper, Reinforcing Deterrence on Nato’s Eastern Flank:

    In a series of wargames conducted between summer 2014 and spring 2015, the RAND Corporation examined the shape and probable outcome of a near-term Russian invasion of the Baltic states.

    The games’ findings are unambiguous: As currently postured, NATO cannot successfully defend the territory of its most exposed members. Across multiple games using a wide range of expert participants in and out of uniform playing both sides, the longest it has taken Russian forces to reach the outskirts of the Estonian and/or Latvian capitals of Tallinn and Riga, respectively, is 60 hours. Such a rapid defeat would leave NATO with a limited number of options, all bad…

    Now that report couches all of this in terms of the boilerplate Russian ‘aggression,’ where in fact Russia has no desire to invade anybody, but WILL in fact invade the Baltics and Eastern Poland, as I explained previously, in case Nato gets directly involved in Ukraine.

    The reason is to protect the Russian Kaliningrad exclave, which would require Russia taking the 40-mile land bridge between Russian-allied Belarus and the exclave.

    That means taking the Baltics and Eastern Poland as I outlined. This is not news to any military planner on either side, and has been written about extensively…for instance, The Suwalki Gap: The 40-Mile Line NATO is Ready to Go to War with Russia Over.

    We see a rehashing of these war scenarios in an article from a couple of weeks ago:

    An example of a weak spot is the forty-mile-long Lithuanian-Polish border, also called the Suwalki Gap, that separates the Russian enclave Kaliningrad and the Russian satellite state Belarus.

    It is also called the new Fulda Gap. The Baltic states are connected to the rest of Europe via a highway and railroad, which are well within the range of Russian missiles in Kaliningrad. The war simulations showed that Russia would capture the Baltic states within sixty hours.

    –Russia, Not NATO, Has the Upper Hand in Ukraine; National Interest

    Russian airborne troops and ilyushin Il76 transport aircraft

    This analysis also mentions some of the other points I brought out, such as the lack of appetite for a war within major Nato countries like Germany and France, etc.

    So despite your strenuous objections about how such a war could quickly involve tactical nuclear weapons on both sides, the reality is that this is very much actively gamed as I stated unambiguously.

    The only thing preventing the US from wading into Ukraine is the fact that they could not stop the Russian armed forces from quickly taking those exposed Nato territories of the Baltics and Eastern Poland, exactly as I explained. That is the only reason we will not have a war. If they thought they could pull it off, they would…and resorting to tactical nukes would be the least of their concerns.

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  405. Malla says:
    @Zarathustra

    When in the Summer of 1939 the Reich government, motivated by the desire to achieve a settlement of interests between Germany and the USSR, approached the Soviet government, it was quite aware that it was no easy matter to reach an understanding with a state that on one hand claimed to belong to a community of nation states with rights and duties resulting therefrom, yet on the other hand was ruled by a party that, as a section of the Comintern [Communist International], was striving to bring about world revolution – in other words, the dissolution of those nation states.

    The German Reich government made the effort, setting aside its serious misgivings, which were based on this fundamental difference in the political aims of Germany and Soviet Russia, and on the sharp contrast between the diametrically opposed worldviews of National Socialism and Bolshevism. It was guided by the idea that the elimination of the possibility of war, which would result from an understanding between Germany and Russia, and the safeguarding of the real vital needs of the two nations, between whom friendly relations had always existed, would offer the best guarantee against a further spreading to Europe of the Communist doctrine of international Jewry. This belief was strengthened by the fact that certain events in Russia itself and certain measures of international scope undertaken by the Russian government allowed one to assume that a departure from those doctrines and previous methods of subversion of other nations seemed at least possible. The reception accorded in Moscow to this German initiative and the readiness of the Soviet Russian government to conclude a pact of friendship with Germany appeared to confirm this change of attitude.

    Thus, a Non-Aggression Pact was concluded on August 23, 1939, while a Boundary and Friendship Agreement was signed by the two states on September 28, 1939. The essence of these agreements consisted of:

    1. Reciprocal pledges by both states not to attack one another and to live as peaceful neighbors, and

    2. Delineation of spheres of interest, with the German Reich renouncing all influence in Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Bessarabia, while territories of the former Polish State as far as the line formed by the Narew, Bug and San [rivers] were to be incorporated into Russia according to the wishes of the Soviets.

    Immediately following the conclusion of the Non-Aggression Pact with Russia, the Reich government in fact carried out a fundamental shift in its policy toward the USSR, and since that time assumed a friendly attitude toward the Soviet Union. The German government faithfully adhered in both letter and spirit to the treaties concluded with the Soviet Union. In addition, it had – through the defeat of Poland, that is, by shedding German blood – helped the Soviet Union to gain its greatest successes in foreign policy since its establishment. That was only possible as a result of Germany’s well-intentioned policy toward Russia and the overwhelming victories of German armed forces.

    Not unreasonably, the Reich government therefore felt justified in expecting that the Soviet Union would adopt a similar attitude toward the German Reich, especially given that during the negotiations conducted by Reich Foreign Minister von Ribbentrop in Moscow, and on other occasions, the Soviet government had repeatedly expressed the view that these treaties would be the basis for a lasting settlement of German-Soviet Russian interests, and that the two nations, each respecting the regime of the other, and prepared to abstain from any interference in the internal affairs of the other partner, would achieve lasting good neighborly relations. Unfortunately it soon became evident that the Reich government had been quite mistaken in that assumption.

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    , @Zarathustra
  406. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Continued from last post

    In fact the Comintern resumed its activities in every sphere very soon after conclusion of the German-Russian treaties. This was true not only with regard to Germany, but also regarding states friendly to Germany, as well as neutral States, and areas in Europe that were occupied by German troops. In order to avoid openly violating the treaties, methods were changed and camouflage was applied more carefully and with greater cunning. In Moscow it obviously was thought necessary to offset the impact of the conclusion of the pact with National Socialist Germany by continually denouncing Germany’s supposed “imperialistic war.” Strong and effective preventive police measures compelled the Comintern to try to conduct its subversive activities and its intelligence work in Germany in other ways, making use of centers established for that purpose in neighboring countries.

    For that purpose former German Communist officials were deployed to foment subversion and to arrange for acts of sabotage in Germany. GPU [NKVD] Commissar Krylov was in charge of systematic training courses organized for that purpose. In addition, intensive subversive activities were carried out in territories occupied by Germany, notably in the Protectorate [Bohemia- Moravia] and in occupied France, as well as in Norway, Holland, Belgium, and so forth.

    Soviet Russian diplomatic posts, notably the General Consulate in Prague, rendered valuable assistance in that regard. An active intelligence service that included radio transmitters and receivers is absolute proof of the work of the Comintern directed against the German Reich. There is also extensive documentary evidence consisting of witnesses’ statements and written materials on the full scope of other subversion and reconnaissance work of the Comintern. In addition, sabotage groups were organized, which maintained their own laboratories for making incendiary and high-explosive bombs for use in acts of sabotage. Such attacks were carried out, for example, against no fewer than 16 German ships.

    [MORE]

    In addition to this subversion and sabotage activity, espionage was also carried out. Thus, the repatriation of [ethnic] Germans from Soviet Russia was exploited by the most reprehensible means for the purpose of gaining the services of these Germans for the ends of the GPU. Not only men but women as well were victims of shameless extortion and forced to enter the service of the GPU. Even the Soviet Russian embassy in Berlin, in operations headed by embassy counselor [Amayak] Kobulov, did not shrink from unscrupulous abuse of the rights of extraterritoriality for espionage purposes. A staff member of the Russian Consulate at Prague, Mokhov [L. Mikhailov], headed another Russian espionage network that extended across the Protectorate [Bohemia-Moravia]. Further instances in which the police were able to take action in time provided clear, unequivocal evidence of these extensive Soviet Russian machinations. The evidence as a whole proves irrefutably that Soviet Russia carried out against Germany illegal, large-scale subversive activities, acts of sabotage and terror, and espionage in preparation for war, in the political, military and economic spheres.

    With regard to Soviet Russia’s subversive activities in European countries outside of Germany, those extended to almost all countries in Europe that are friendly to or are occupied by Germany. Thus in Romania, for example, Communist propaganda in the form of leaflets of Russian origin portrayed Germany as being responsible for all local troubles in order to foster an anti-German public mood. The same thing had been evident in Yugoslavia since the Summer of 1940. Leaflets there incited the people to protest against the [Dragiša] Cvetković government, which was aligning with the “imperialistic” governments of Berlin and Rome. At a meeting of Communist party functionaries in Zagreb the whole of Southeastern Europe from Slovakia to Bulgaria was described as a Russian protectorate that would come into being after Germany’s hoped for military decline. In the Soviet embassy in Belgrade, German troops discovered documentary evidence of the Soviet Russian origin of this propaganda. Whereas Communist propaganda in Yugoslavia sought to make use of nationalist slogans, in Hungary it was effective chiefly among the Ruthenian population, to whom it held out hopes of forthcoming liberation by Soviet Russia. Anti-German propaganda was particularly active in Slovakia, which openly agitated for annexation of that country by Soviet Russia.

    In Finland the notorious “Society for Peace and Friendship With the Soviet Union” actively worked with the [Soviet-run] Petroskoi radio broadcasting station to promote the subversion of the country, and thereby operating in an entirely anti-German way.

    In France, Belgium and Holland agitation was directed against the German occupation authority. A similar propaganda campaign, but of nationalist and pan-Slavic character, was carried out in the Government General [Poland]. Scarcely had Greece been occupied by German and Italian troops when Soviet Russian propaganda commenced there as well. All this is evidence of a campaign systematically carried out in every country by the USSR against Germany’s endeavor to establish a stable order in Europe.

    Parallel with that was propaganda directly aimed at countering German policy measures, which denounced those measures as anti-Russian and sought to win over these various countries for Soviet Russia and against Germany. In Bulgaria there was agitation against that country’s joining the Tripartite Pact, and in favor of a guarantee pact with Russia. In Romania attempts were made at infiltration of the [nationalist] Iron Guard [movement] and suborning its leaders, including Groza, a Romanian who initiated the attempted putsch of January 23, 1941, and behind whom Bolshevist agents of Moscow stood as wire-pullers. The Reich government had indisputable evidence of this.

    With regard to Yugoslavia, the Reich government had come in possession of documents showing that the Yugoslav envoy [Milorad] Georgevic [Djordjevich] became convinced, on the basis of a conversation with [Soviet foreign minister] Molotov in May 1940 that Germany was regarded there as the “powerful enemy of tomorrow.” Soviet Russia’s attitude was made even more clear by its response to the requests for armaments made by Serbian military circles. In November 1940, the chief of the Soviet Russian General Staff declared to the Yugoslav military attaché: “We will give you, immediately, everything you ask for.” The prices to be paid and the method of payment were left to the discretion of the Belgrade government, and only one condition was made: to keep this a secret from Germany. When the Cvetković government subsequently approached the Axis powers, Moscow began to delay deliveries of weapons, and this was communicated curtly to the Yugoslav military attaché by the Soviet Russian War Ministry. The staging of the Belgrade putsch of March 27 of this year was the climax of those conspiratorial activities against the Reich by Serbian plotters and Anglo-Russian agents. The Serbian leader of that putsch and the head of the “Black Hand,” Mr. [Božin] Simić, is still in Moscow, where he works actively against the Reich in close collaboration with Soviet Russian propaganda centers.

    The foregoing points are only a small portion of the enormously comprehensive propaganda activities against Germany that the USSR has been carrying out across Europe. In order to furnish the outside world with an overview of these activities by Soviet Russian agencies since the conclusion of the treaties between Germany and Russia and to enable the public to reach its own judgment, the Reich government will be publishing the extensive material at its disposal. In summary, the Reich government points out the following:

    At the conclusion of the treaties with Germany, the Soviet government repeatedly made the unequivocal declaration that it did not intend to interfere, either directly or indirectly, in German affairs. When the friendship treaty was concluded, it solemnly stated it would work together with Germany in order to bring an end, in accordance with the true interests of all nations, of the war existing between Germany on one hand and Britain and France on the other, and to achieve this aim as soon as possible. In the light of the above-mentioned facts, which have steadily become more apparent during the further course of the war, these Soviet Russian agreements and declarations have been shown to be intentionally misleading and deceptive. Nor did the advantages accruing from Germany’s friendly attitude cause the Soviet government to adopt a loyal attitude toward Germany. On the contrary, the Reich government has been forced to realize that the conclusion of the pacts in 1939 was yet another instance of the application of Lenin’s thesis, as expressly reaffirmed in the October 1939 “Guidelines for the Communist Party in Slovakia,” stating that “pacts may be concluded with certain other countries if they further the interests of the Soviet government and help render the opponent innocuous.” The signing of these treaties of friendship was, accordingly, for the Soviet government only a tactical maneuver. The real goal was to reach agreements that were advantageous to Russia and, at the same time, enable preparation for powerful future action by the Soviet Union. The guiding idea remained the weakening of non-Bolshevist states in order to be in a position to subvert them more easily and, when the time came, to smash them. In a Russian document discovered after the capture of Belgrade in the Soviet legation there, this purpose was expressed with stark brutality in the following words: “The USSR will respond only at the opportune moment. The Axis powers have further dissipated their forces, and the USSR will consequently strike a sudden blow against Germany.”

  407. FB says: • Website
    @Malla

    …macho mustachio thags…macho smelly brown Hindutva dicks…macho mustachiod thug…when he dumps his load…

    Oh my, our little brown Malla seems to have ‘dick’ on her brain…

    [MORE]

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  408. Malla says:
    @FB

    My my, FB after having his feminine cute commie White butt being filled to satisfaction by smelly macho hairy chested mustachioed Hindutva Indian slumdwellers smelly brown dick is stuck with posting dick cartoons. Masala dick, FB. Quite an effect huh. This is the big heart of Indians, you insult India but Indians satisfy your secret carvings to be owned by a real man.

  409. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    like taking the Ploesti oil field and depriving Germany

    destruction the Germans brought to the east.

    Maybe Tzar Nicholaus II would have been proactive and impaled Lenin. That would have prevented mass deaths and destruction in the East.
    Better yet maybe Princep would have shot himself and not Archduke Ferdinand, that would saved millions of humans lives in the 20s.
    Maybe Mosley would have come to power in Britain, and Britain for once would have done sensible in its life and made a military and economic alliance with Third Reich Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal to prevent the spread of Bolshevism as well as Americanism into Europe (outside the USSR). Would have made an alliance with the Japanese Empire too in the East, a natural and sensible alliance Britain had with Japan in the past.
    Maybe Poland and Germany would come to an understanding regarding ethnic Germans living in Poland as well as the railway lines to Danzig. Thus all nearby ethnic Germans in the Reich, the Reich could go ahead with its National Socialist program.
    Maybe Subhash Chandra Bose would become the leader of India in alliance with Germany and Japan and would have imposed some form of National Socialism in India, India and Pakistan would have remained one (he was the only Hindu leader whom Muslims would have listened to, popular among Muslim youth). No Nehru’s idiotic policies influenced by the Commie monkey Harold Laski or today’s Modi’s Jew financial capitalist looting today.
    Lots of possibilities.

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  410. @Malla

    Sure, and maybe Germany, having enjoyed that economic miracle under the Nazis, could have been satisfied with continuing to develop, and remained satisfied with all the concessions she was given up to and including Munich, and not started invading everyone in sight. Then maybe she would have been left alone.

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  411. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Germany would never be left alone. The blood suckers would never leave it alone.

  412. @Malla

    Are the Punjabis more macho than the South Indians?

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  413. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    For the record, I repeat that I believe Russia would launch and all-out ICBM nuclear attack on the USA and large European cities and NATO bases in western Europe (and in other locations) after any NATO attack on her territory, such as an attack on Kaliningrad or Crimea. This is the scenario that you presented earlier, a NATO attack on Kaliningrad, as the westernmost post of Russia’s military and civilian projection.

    Now you are presenting a different scenario: NATO involvement in a war with Russia on the Ukranian front, and the Ukraine is not Russia’s territory.

    The Rand paper argues that NATO cannot defend and does not provide a deterrent for the Baltic statelets against Russia, and asks NATO to buy three more armored brigades, promising it would cost less than 13 USD billions upfront, and about 2.3 USD billions per year in maintenance. The nerve of these guys.

    The other article in National Interest is not a sales pitch and essentially says that the Ukraine is gone to Russia if Russia wanted to invade and take it whole.

    I agree with the National Interest overview of the situation. I also agree that the Baltic statelets are not defensible from Russia in a conventional war.

    I don’t think that under this new scenario (NATO coming openly on the side of the Ukraine to re-take the Donbass [Crimea would be a bridge too far, any move against Crimea as a Russian region would unleash nuclear war]) Russia would touch eastern Poland or the Baltic statelets. For the following reasons:

    1) Ukraine is not NATO while the Baltic statelets and Poland are NATO. While being NATO as junior member (Poland) or as micro members (Baltic statelets) will not be nearly as good as being a major NATO player, it still is some kind of insurance so Russia would try not to expand the Ukraine theater into those other theaters.

    2) Eastern Poland would be the perfect location for washing away fanatic Ukranians and thus creating a refugee problem for Europe, without actually invading any NATO nation.

    So perhaps we still disagree in a very peculiar way. I think that Russia would unleash the destruction of our civilization through a full-blown nuclear war if NATO attack any Russian territory. But if NATO just enter into a Ukrainian-Russian war on the side of the Ukraine then I think Russia would be much more modest in her response than you think, not touching the Baltic statelets or eastern Poland, limiting her operations to the Ukraine herself. This is not to say that Russia would not mass troops and gear ready to take the Baltic statelets if necessary.

    • Replies: @FB
  414. Jazman says:
    @FB

    The West was never up to the level to fight full-scale war with the Soviets anyway, either conventional or nuclear.Big war isn’t only about machines. Machines are important but they are secondary. Munitions are primary.Their number and size.By June 1941 the Third Reich had roughly three times more munitions than the rest of the world combined.And not only that.They outmatched everybody in size of calibers.While for Soviets 152mm was a rare occurrence, for the Germans 205mm was a normal situation. Blitzkrieg requires a moving densely firewall of shells and bombs. Without that firewall it’s nothing. The shortage of munitions wrecked the Vietnam war for the US. The economy wasn’t sustainable to replenish bombs,so by 1968 it became clear that the war is up,hence the stopping of the Rolling Thunder.But after Vietnam situation with munitions became even more pathetic – Americans expended their entire Cold War bomb storages just in a month of campaign against Iraq in 1991 so they started buying out their own bombs (previously sold) from their European allies for two- and threefold prices. For comparison, Russia have been selling and using in various conflicts Soviet munitions left and right, and still going to use them for a century to come without problems.

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  415. @Malla

    I can see now that you are truly Indian Nazi.
    I do have a really bad news for you.
    In coming the hot age all Indian population will die out.
    But there some Indian Gypsies will survive.
    Russians will rule the world.
    ……………………………………………………………….
    Bad karma .

    • LOL: FB
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  416. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    Now you are presenting a different scenario…

    No, I’m not. Perhaps you haven’t carefully read what I wrote previously. Every scenario starts with Ukraine. The Nato attack on Kaliningrad comes AFTER the conflict actually starts in Ukraine, with direct Nato involvement. I never presented a Kaliningrad conflict in isolation, because it is unrealistic and pointless. Ukraine is the attack vector for the US—which is precisely why it is such a big deal.

    But if NATO just enter into a Ukrainian-Russian war on the side of the Ukraine then I think Russia would be much more modest in her response than you think, not touching the Baltic statelets or eastern Poland, limiting her operations to the Ukraine herself.

    You may think that, but where is the logic? Once US and Nato is militarily in Ukraine then the NEXT domino to fall is Kaliningrad. This is where your civilian logic [such as it is] fails you.

    In fact you entirely miss the point. My entire discussion centers on the fact that Russia has escalation dominance in the region, by far—due to a far larger and vastly more capable force structure than anything the US, and whatever allies it may succeed in dragging in [mostly Britain, Poland and the Balts] . The outside material I presented confirms that, since it comes to very specific war game conclusions. [I believe I had earlier linked to a similar war game that sees Russia on the gates of Warsaw in something like three days].

    Look, I specifically laid out an escalation scenario based on direct statements from Putin. He has said very specific things: That Nato command and control centers will be targeted, and that airfields will be preemptively destroyed. This WILL happen if a US ‘coalition’ [it’s not going to be Nato, which I will get to in a minute] wades into Ukraine. At that point we have a full war.

    Russia doesn’t have to use even tactical nukes to take out those command posts and airfields. But if the coalition then escalates to tactical nukes, as is likely, then the escalation from the Russian side hits British bases very hard and US command centers using standoff tactical nukes at very long range.

    None of that requires ending civilization. There is a threshold of pain that will force the US to back away. The Russians know this, which is the whole point of having the capability to inflict that pain using those long-range weapons [some of them hypersonic].

    I think that Russia would unleash the destruction of our civilization through a full-blown nuclear war if NATO attack any Russian territory.

    Again, you can think that, but it doesn’t stand the test of basic logic. ICBMs are NOT necessary for Russia to inflict huge pain on the US and Britain in particular. I specifically mentioned the Tu160 bombers in that clip where they visited Venezuela. They can launch missiles from several thousand miles away. Very precise missiles. The US can do the same on Russian targets, but the US disadvantage is that it doesn’t have the air defense systems in place to intercept those. Russia does, so it inflicts more pain that it receives.

    There is absolutely no reason to go to ICBMs as the very first choice. That is simply unbelievable that anyone could be so uninformed to think that.

    As for Russia taking the Baltics and eastern Poland early in the war, that is the most sound military strategy. By taking that territory, they preclude the possibility of US landing a huge army on their doorstep. Plus the extra buffer gives them defense-in-depth, which is an established Russian doctrine that was used to great effect in WW2, for instance at Kursk, where Wehrmacht launched its last offensive, Operation Citadel, in 1943, and was defeated largely to to defense in depth.

    So taking those is imperative in case a shooting war breaks out. The fact that taking them is quite easy only adds to the calculus. This is exactly the same doctrine and strategy that was used in the cold war plan I discussed, Seven Days to the River Rhine.

    Anyway, I’m going to leave it at that because there is no point arguing with someone that doesn’t have the foundational knowledge and training about how the military actually works.

    As for ‘Nato’, it is practically pointless to use this grouping. None of the major countries of Germany, France and Italy will ever sign on to a US plan to get militarily involved in Ukraine, or even to send soldiers to die for Latvia. Even that National Interest article admits that the Bulgarians and Romanians, who are quite obedient, do not want to get involved.

    Nobody seriously wants a war with Russia over Ukraine, except perhaps the neocon crazies in the US plus the equally crazy British regime. Also the Baltic and Polish regimes, even though their publics, especially in Poland are very far from being onside. There is in fact quite a bit of pro-Russian sentiment in Poland, especially among those who remember what life was actually like during socialism. For many it was a lot better than now, as serfs to the west.

    If the US does wade in physically in Ukraine, Russia will surely take the Baltics and Eastern Poland in short order. That is simply a military necessity. I think you are over your head here.

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    , @erzberger
  417. @Jazman

    Big Bertha, But Germans did have only few of them. Even Tigers what Germans did have was very few for such a long front.

  418. Levtraro says:
    @FB

    No, I’m not. Perhaps you haven’t carefully read what I wrote previously. Every scenario starts with Ukraine. The Nato attack on Kaliningrad comes AFTER the conflict actually starts in Ukraine, with direct Nato involvement. I never presented a Kaliningrad conflict in isolation, because it is unrealistic and pointless. Ukraine is the attack vector for the US—which is precisely why it is such a big deal.

    Yes, you presented the scenario of a NATO attack on Kaliningrad in isolation. This is you in this thread:

    But there are in fact some quite realistic scenarios involving the use of nuclear weapons–smaller ones, known as tactical nukes. For instance the US has publicly made noises about how it has a plan to take out Russia’s Kaliningrad exclave, which is outside of ‘mainland’ Russia and is nestled between the Baltic states and Poland, which are Nato members.

    Those US noises you mention are not in response to a war in the Ukraine, or are they?

    Obviously this kind of limited nuclear attack, which would certainly cause a lot of damage, is NOT going to prompt the Russian Federation to launch a massive, potentially civilization-ending, ICBM-salvo at the US.

    To which I replied and started our discussion, essentially saying that any attack on Russian territory would unleash nuclear war including ICBMs. That has been my whole point in our discussion. That any attack by NATO on Russian territory, of which Kaliningrad is part, would unleash nuclear war, including ICBMs.

    You may think that, but where is the logic?

    The logic is my points 1) and 2), in the comment you are replying. (1) The Baltic statelets and Poland are NATO, which does mean something even though the statelets and Poland are minor players, and (2) eastern Poland is the best location to create a refugee problem to Europe. So, from the Russian point of view, why to extend a war in the Ukraine to the Baltic statelets and to eastern Poland? In the scenario of a war in the Ukraine, which is not the scenario that you presented and prompted my objections, Russia is better off limiting operations to the Ukraine herself.

    Anyway, I’m going to leave it at that because there is no point arguing with someone that doesn’t have the foundational knowledge and training about how the military actually works.

    You have just re-started the discussion out of nothing and now you pose, with your characteristic hubris, as the one that wants to leave it as it is. And you don’t know much about me. I know a lot more about you than you know about me.

    If the US does wade in physically in Ukraine, Russia will surely take the Baltics and Eastern Poland in short order. That is simply a military necessity. I think you are over your head here.

    No. If NATO (the USA will do nothing in Europe unless it gets NATO on board) does wade physically in the Ukraine, Russia will fight NATO in the Ukraine and will not expand operations into the Baltics or eastern Poland. Russia will move against NATO territory only in the event that NATO attack Russian territory, and that movement will be accompanied by a full blown ICBM “exchange of opinions”.

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    , @Levtraro
  419. FB says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    I specifically mentioned a US attack on Kaliningrad in the context of a Ukraine escalation. You are cherry picking quotes here, and leaving out the part where I went through the escalation scenario step by step, STARTING WITH UKRAINE!

    Look, you can think whatever you want about what Nato ‘means’ with regards to the Baltic states. I already wrote about this. I think I said something to the effect of: Now that Russia is in Riga Latvia and Bialystok Poland, the US Chief of Staff will just say: ‘Well, that’s it then…time to launch the ICBMs and destroy our country, our family etc. It’s been nice knowing you, world.’

    You are talking nothing but silliness.

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  420. Levtraro says:
    @Levtraro

    Btw, today is Victory Day and my Russkie drinking budies here in western Europe have invited me to celebrate. You, FB, as a commie and sovietphile, would undertand. Na zdarovie!

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  421. Jazman says:
    @FB

    Hi FB ,

    Do you have idea why Su-57 have so specific whistling sound , it is really scary

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  422. Malla says:
    @Zarathustra

    I do have a really bad news for you.
    In coming the hot age all Indian population will die out.

    Woaw woaw woaw, where did this come from?
    Anyways for your info, Indians are hardcore Russophiles. Russia and Putin are super popular here. If one would poll “which country is their best friend” among Indians in India, Russia would come out tops, easy. If Putin would stand for elections here, he might even win because of his fan following here.

    As far as Indian population dying out? 1.4 billion people? That is a lotta work. Anyways life is cheap here. We will see.

  423. FB says: • Website
    @Jazman

    The whistling sound is from the engine compressor at the front, which consists of multiple rows of fans that compress the engine inlet air, before fuel is injected and burned in the combustion chamber.

    Cutaway of a GE J85 turbojet engine, showing compressor wheels at front and turbine wheels at the aft end, the two assemblies connected by a common shaft, and the combustors in the middle.

    Those blades on the compressor are spinning at supersonic speed at the tips, which is what causes the whistle.

    The Saturn AL31 engine on the Sukhoi is much bigger and sucks in about 250 pounds of air PER SECOND, at an inlet flow speed of about 0.5 Mach. That is a HUGE quantity of air, about the size of a room that is 30 x 30 x 30 ft, being emptied every second. That is why you hear the whistling—there is a lot of airflow going on at very high speed. Notice that you hear the whistling only as the airplane approaches, and then after it passes overhead you hear the rumble of the exhaust.

    Every jet airplane has this characteristic, but it does seem that in the Su57 the compressor whistle dominates somewhat uncharacteristically. This could be due to the very big wing that separates the aft engine nozzle from the front engine air inlets and perhaps blocks the exhaust sound.

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  424. FB says: • Website

    To Everyone:

    Today is Victory Day.

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  425. @Malla

    Nah-most Indians will just decamp north, or die. Could be by 2050, although famines will probably occur much earlier. Alfie will be happy.

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  426. @Malla

    Here I do explain it to you Malla. You probably do not have technical education but you are very intelligent so you will understand at least part of it.

    Global warming.

    [MORE]

    The collection of pea brain politicians want to stop Global warming by controlling the carbon dioxide in atmosphere. That is actually more ridiculous than trying to stop the rushing train by putting a single straw on the rails.
    Confident politicians are trying to change Gods setup.
    Obviously they cannot succeed.
    And Gods setup is that way that 95 percent of humanity will be eliminated.
    God did set it up this way when he did create our solar system.

    Global warming?

    Global warming is continuous process that started at peak of the Ice age that did happen about 18 thousand years ago.

    There is now no more global warming. There is now accelerated global warming.

    People now noticed that our planet is warming up. People did not notice global warming before, because the changes were not noticeable during one person lifetime.
    So what is the reason for accelerated global warming?
    Some 30 or 40 years ago great change did happen. And it has nothing to do with carbon dioxide in atmosphere.
    Carbon dioxide stays in lower atmosphere is not cumulative process. With rain carbon dioxide creates carbonic acid and it falls to the ground where it helps in creation of top soil. Also plants do absorb carbon dioxide. So carbon dioxide is being part of the recycling process Carbon dioxide is not and newer was the cause of global warming. Although there always were large forest fires they never influenced anything..

    So here is what is happening!

    Staging.

    I do find it difficult to pick the starting point of explanation, but I am picking the starting point of peak of the Ice age. Ice age is now accepted fact so I do not have to prove it.
    We did find some Neanderthal skeletons and some pictures on the walls of caves where they were living. (But the question is: Did all Neanderthals live in caves?)
    Also we have here a traveler through Alps clothed if fur and leader with pouch of berries.
    Scientist determined that he died six thousand years ago. He was discovered only because the thick layer of ice above his body has melted away.
    Than we have latest excavations in Sahara desert where were find skeletons an villages and former lakes what did prove that Sahara was a place with ample flora a fauna.
    But most important fact we find in Bible when Jews did leave Egypt they were wandering 40 years in wilderness and when they were very hungry God did send them manna. The manna was sweet. So at one time area which is now Sinai Desert was bursting with vegetation and life. And the manna was coconuts falling from coconuts trees.
    All this is proof that Global warming was present and happening continuously to this day.

    And this is only the end of the Stage, Foreword, or like I love to say Prelude.

    And now I can go to the theory itself .

    MYSTERIOUS LADY THEORY

    I have no doubt that most of readers will not understand the theory because to understand it, it requires certain minimal knowledge of static, kinematics, dynamics and vectors.
    It also requires certain familiarities with works of two Slavic Geniuses , Copernicus, and Kepler, and also Holandian Ticho de Brahe.

    But there is no reason to despair. All you have to understand that everything has two sides. As Newton law that every action has an opposite reaction of equal size. Also every coin has a head ant tale. So if there was an Ice age there must be also a hot age.

    I will concentrate mostly on Kepler.
    So how it went down,
    Tycho de Brahe spent most of his life observing night skies recording the position of planets at time intervals. Eventually when he finished his work, he did not know what to do with it, so he did send all his notes and sketches to Kepler.
    On bases of these notes Kepler formulated 3 laws on movement of orbiting planets in our Solar system. (you can Google Kepler to find the Laws,)
    What is significant is the interpretation of second Law which is about of equal areas. The interpretation is that velocity of the earth orbiting tne Sun is not constant. The velocity when earth on the curve around the sun is higher than when is on the curve on opposite side. (Far away from sun.)

    But I do have a problem with first Law (the ellipse)
    First problem is that ellipse is an anomaly.
    Second problem is that ellipse is inherently unstable.

    As the earth rotate around the Sun trajectory is determined by two obvious forces. The gravity pull of the sun and the centrifugal force emanated from kinetic force of the earth.
    These two forces never change so the orbit must be circular,

    So who is right Kepler or me.
    Actually Kepler is right because his Law is based on factual findings of Ticho de Brahe.

    But here is the snag, First law of dynamics is that nothing changes in our universe unless force is applied to it. So there must be some invisible unknown force that warps the circular orbit of earth into ellipse. I do call this unknown force “Mysterious Lady”

    So there are three forces determining the trajectory of the earth not two. (Holy Trinity,)
    And so mysterious lady is pushing the end of ellipse continuously away from the other end. That is more and more away from sun making the ellipse longer and narrower. Because now earth is spending more time on the ellipse that is far away from sun, the temperature of the earth is decreasing and than the ice age sets in up on earth. Because the vector of Mysterious lady is in direct opposition to Suns gravity, strength of Mysterious lady is decreasing with each orbit. Eventually Suns gravity eliminates all force of Mysterious lady and earth execute his last progressing orbit. And that is the peak of the ice age,
    Than Sun is starting to pull back orbit of the earth, making ellipse fatter and shorter until earth make last orbit which is precise circle.
    But Sun pulling back the earth trajectory is building up the potential energy in earth.
    And now we know the origin of Mysterious lady. It is actually inertia of earth built up by Suns gravity. So when earth makes the precise circular orbit, that is the peak of hot age. And passing that point, inertia in earth is starting to build the ellipse on opposite side of Sun and the process repeats itself.
    So the movement is like pendulum.
    Orbit of the earth defined by two vectors. Vector of kinetic energy and vector of earth inertia.

    According my calculations movement from peak of ice age to peak other ice age takes forty thousand years,
    ………………………………………
    So where are we now?
    We are approximately 2 thousand years away from peak of hot age, when orbit of the earth becomes precise circle. And I believe it is not too good news for humanity,
    At the beginning I did mention the red line and accelerated Global warming.
    So what is happening?
    Sun is emitting heat waves into universe but so does also earths, the face turned away from sun. This acceptance of heat energy and emitting heat energy was in balance.
    But because earth is spending more time closer to sun the enthalpy of the earth is increasing, Increase of enthalpy means accelerated Global warming.

    Prophecy and consequences

    Seasons.

    Although it was happening before now it will happen more obviously. The summers will become longer and winters will become shorter. It will happen until circular
    orbit of the earth when seasons will vanish and all year will be only summer. I am not going to note on the impact on the flora. In every case the impact becomes questionable.

    Going back to present.
    Environmentalists are now alarmed by diminishing icebergs on poles. Claiming of the rising of the level of oceans is threat to humanity. That is not a threat. That is a joke.

    About our Mother Earth.
    Earth is not a sphere to call earth sphere is good enough when we argue with people who claim that the earth is flat.
    Earth is ellipsoid with larger axis of distance of two opposite points on the equator an smaller axis from pole to pole.
    But even that is not precise because earth is more squashed on north pole than on south pole.
    That proves two things.
    Earth was once liquid mass.
    The solidifying of surface of the liquid mass did begin on North pole.
    On North pole we have deep see while on South pole we have solid earth mass.

    So what are the detrimental factors threaten the humanity?
    (Here are enthusiast of global worming actually right.)
    1.Increased temperature.
    2.Weather

    Temperature of air on most areas will increase to such extent that it will become non breathable.

    Concerning weather, it is more complicated.
    As earth will heat up and all snow and ice will vanish the temperature differences will of different areas considerable decrease. That will influence the air movement around the globe.
    The air movement will considerably decrease. It will decrease to such extent that most of evaporated water from oceans in a form of clouds will not reach solid ground but they will fall back in a form of rain into oceans. Result of this will be dry lands on continents.

    So here is signs to watch. Amounts of rain in all areas.
    Tornados Hurricanes and Typhoons will be no more. They will die out.

    The results.
    The earth axis of rotation is not perpendicular to area of its ellipse it is inclined 22,7 degrees. That means that southern hemisphere is more exposed to sun when earth is on curve around the sun.
    So Australia will first that will become arid uninhabitable land. All flora and fauna including the population will die out. Following new Zealand Africa Middle east South America will die out.
    Eventually all area up to Northern Polar circle will become uninhabitable.

    Only Northern parts of Canada, Labrador, Iceland and Russian Tundra will be habitable.

    Naturally by progressing the devastation there will be great migration Earth population to North.
    Some countries will accept selectively some emigrants but there will not be so many accepted .
    Russian Taiga is a huge land and they will accept mostly Slavic people Except Polish and not Russian speaking Ukrainians.

    We have Lucy from 3,2 million years and we have Ardi from 4.4 million years.
    So humanoids and humans survived several hot ages so why such a pessimistic outlook for humanity now?
    Well?
    We do not know how may died in hot age and how many survived.
    And here is the huge difference. They did not have an axe and saw. All surface of earth was cowered and protected by canopy of trees.

    This time it will be different.
    People did cut down most of the trees for inhabitation, fields and roads.
    So now the earth is mostly naked.

    So what can humans do now to at lest somehow diminish the impact of hot age.
    Not much!
    Maybe plant trees on every free area could help a little bit.
    The other thing is imperative. Canada should dig a deep channel from Great lakes to arctic circle, and Russia should dig a deep channel from Baikal lake to Russian Tundra.
    To have a soft water for population and for irrigation to have a back up
    in case of insufficient rain.

    I still stand by my calculation of peak of the hot age 2 thousand years from now, but that is within error of plus minus 5 hundred years. So maybe we will start to notice the beginning of hot age soon.

    We have scientist star gazers, who could measure the distance of earth to sun at time of peak of winter, and at time of peak of summer and establish the parameters of ellipse.
    And doing twice or more times could determine the gradient of earth nearing the sun.
    From that it can be calculated precisely the peak of the hot age.

    What is most peculiar to me that Trump wanted to buy Iceland from Denmark.
    Did he wanted a safe land for future US population? Because he knew what will be coming? This is very suspicious to me. But Democrats have different idea
    They just will kill all Iceland population and take over.
    Soon will be here on earth life or death situations for most of nations, so conflict will arise with unforeseen consequences.

    Final conclusion.
    Bible is saying that God created heaven and earth. I would put it slightly differently.
    Many parameters of our Earth and our Solar system that support life, in my opinion could not happen randomly. I am strongly convinced that our solar system is Gods pet project.

    Post Scripted

    Please do not misunderstand me. I am condoning all activities what Governments are doing, fighting Global warming and Climate change. But these activities will have zero influence on what is coming.

    I am only wondering if I will get at least one echo.

    April 30, 2021

    Signet by Zarathustra, Diploma Engineer

    • Thanks: Malla, FB
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    , @Levtraro
    , @FB
  427. Malla says:
    @Zarathustra

    Thanks Zarathrustra, this is interesting stuff. Thanks for all this effort. If this happens, the effect on planet Earth would be catastrophic.

    So maybe we will start to notice the beginning of hot age soon.

    What time do you believe of know this could start becoming unbearable? 2050? 2100?

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  428. Malla says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    If what Zarathrusta says is true, I do not think there would be much space for most Indians. Just the North polar region, even Antarctica is off as the Southern Hemisphere is warmed up more because of the tilt in axis. And remember as the ice melts, more low lying land might go underwater, reducing the land area available to land based life.
    If there is a mass extinction coming, maybe we could build DNA banks of the biodiversity of flora and fauna present on Earth today especially the tropical regions. Build them in northern lands. And preserve it and wait it out, up north, till the Earth’s orbit becomes more elliptical again.

  429. Levtraro says:
    @Zarathustra

    Interesting theory. I will try to find some published research germane to your postulates. Note too that Trump did not want to buy Iceland. He wanted to buy Greenland. Greenland does belong to Denmark, while Iceland is a sovereign nation.

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  430. FB says: • Website
    @Zarathustra

    That’s very interesting, Z, thanks for sharing.

    You obviously know some physics and thermodynamics and have given this some thought. I agree that any ‘warming’ or ‘cooling’ trends we may be seeing are definitely not caused by carbon dioxide, but by fundamental physical processes having to do with the sun, which is the only source of energy for our planet.

    Perhaps you have read up on the Milankovitch Cycles? He also discusses the earth’s orbit eccentricity and how it varies between nearly circular and elliptical.

    Orbit with 0.5 eccentricity on right, exaggerated for illustration; Earth’s orbit is only slightly eccentric

    But he also considers variations in earth’s axial tilt and precession, both of which have periods of many thousands of years. Also orbital precession, and orbital inclination, which also vary over periodic cycles that are much longer yet. His theory seems to explain the periodicity of ace ages, but there are still some gaps.

    I don’t accept any of the ‘man-made’ global warming agenda for the simple reason that the so-called leaders cannot be trusted. We do have incredibly serious environmental degradation to worry about, such as pollution with toxic chemicals and heavy metals; destruction of habitat and extinction of our most majestic species like the big cats; terrible pollution of the oceans and ground water, and a lot of other problems like clear-cutting of old-growth forest and much more.

    But you will notice that they are doing precisely ZERO to address any of that. Instead, they want to implement some kind of ‘carbon’ regime whereby the corporate class will have another means to extract wealth from the real economy and from workers. This is complete bullshit.

    It is some sort of Jihad against ‘fossil’ fuels, which don’t exist. Thermodynamically, it is impossible for the complex petroleum hydrocarbon chains to form from biomass without extremely high heat and pressure which is not found near the surface. See the Fischer-Tropf process for making synthetic fuel from biomatter.

    Those kinds of conditions of extremely high temperatures and pressures exist only deep below the earth’s surface, where hydrocarbons are formed from primal carbon and hydrogen. The Soviet academics rigorously proved this thermodynamically decades ago, see abiotic oil. This is now also proved beyond doubt by the fact that oil and gas is being extracted from great depths of 20 km or more, using new drilling techno