The moderator is desperate to move on as she’s very much aware of time constraints and looming, incandescent clashes

The moderation was much better than I expected. When Biden wanted to ramble, she let him dribble on incoherently. American Thinker provides a good summary: (1)

President Trump had several good moments in the final debate … In my own view, the standout moment came last, when Trump just drew out Joe Biden on energy, first on fracking, and then on the entire energy industry, setting him up and then … letting him keep talking.

[1:27:26] Biden: My response is that those people live on what they call ‘Fence Lines’. He doesn’t understand this. They live near chemical plants that, in fact, pollute. Chemical plants, and oil plants and refineries that pollute. I used to live near that when I was growing up in Claremont, Delaware.
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[1:28:12] Welker: OK, I have one final question–
[1:28:14] Trump: Would you close down the– Would you close down the oil industry?
[1:28:17] Biden: I would transition from the oil industry. Yes.
[1:28:19] Trump: Oh, transition.
[1:28:21] Biden: It is a big statement because I would stop–
[1:28:22] Welker: Why would you do that?
[1:28:24] Biden: Because the oil industry significantly — but here’s the deal —
[1:28:27] Trump: That’s a big statement.
[1:28:31] Biden: Well, if you let me finish the statement, because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time. Over time. And I’d stop giving to the oil industry– I’d stop giving them federal subsidies. You won’t give federal subsidies to the gas and, excuse me, to solar and wind. Why are we giving it to the oil industry?

Key inflection point: Trump jumped in on Welker, who was trying to change the topic to something else, and asked him point blank the important question: whether he would shut down the American oil industry, and she actually carried along with it.
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And it was old, tired stuff, too, spoken as if the Obama administration had never already tried it.

Biden said he was going to destroy U.S. energy independence and the associated jobs.

Trump won this debate. Only the most extreme TDS victims will say otherwise. Trump was much better prepared, and he did not bail Biden out by stepping on dementia induced gaffes.

With more Hunter Biden material coming daily, the result could be a Gingrich sized red wave.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/that_moment_when_trump_just_let_biden_keep_talking.html

Biden stated, “We had a good relationship with Hitler before he invaded Europe.”

Hunter Biden’s laptop and emails were not part of a Russian disinformation campaign – directly contradicting what Joe Biden said in the debate.

So, Russia beating the Nazis is why Hunter’s laptop magically became incriminating long before it looked like Creepy Joe would be a viable Presidential candidate, and if only the Nazis had not been beaten would it not have been an issue? Is Joe Biden pro-Nazi?

There’s many moving parts here

First is the laptop from hell. The corruption. The payola. The selfie child porn.

Second is the media reaction. Ignore. Pretend. Save China Joe at all costs.

Third is the intelligence reaction. FBI rides again.

Fourth is Russia, Russia, Russia. If you still fall for this crap, you need an analyst.

Fifth is the public reaction. They are finally getting it.

What did I miss?

Jefferson borrowed freely from Locke, Rousseau, Hume to come up with an eminently quotable Greatest Hits, featuring “self-evident” truths such as “all men are created equal”, “unalienable rights”, and that searing “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

Thomas Paine wrote that. He later very narrowly avoided the guillotine of Robespierre.

We have Trump vs. Biden thanks to Israel.

Are there psychological war crimes?

You forgot Matthew 12:25.

Make America Jeffersonian again with a drug-addict, corrupt, buffoon and puppet of the Mitteleuropean Roman Catholic elite (using Deutsche Bank as the nowadays Welsers and Fuggers) – which in the XVIII cenyury opposed to USA’s independence sending troops of mercenaries from Hesse, soon defeated by the Puritans ? If you actually want America coming back to its roots, vote for Biden.

Every White man to have 40 acres and a slave! Very Jeffersonian.
Of course, the population then was under 3 million and it was still possible to do that.
But if the importation of black slaves had been stopped in his time, the black population of America would be very, very much smaller today. If we assume 1 to 2% of the present population, that would be 3 to 6m people. The problems caused by these people would also be much smaller.
So. No. Don’t make America Jeffersonian again.

Jefferson borrowed freely from Locke, Rousseau, Hume to come up with an eminently quotable Greatest Hits, featuring “self-evident” truths such as “all men are created equal”, “unalienable rights”, and that searing “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” …Still, there’s something endlessly fascinating about these “self-evident truths”. They actually radiated like Spinoza axioms, spawning abstract truths that can be extrapolated at will. Jefferson’s “self-evident truths” ended up creating the whole, massive structure of what we define as “Western liberal democracy”.

So Western liberal democracy was a fantasy the entire time. Spinoza’s tribesman Jesus said Build your house on rock, not sand, which will be swept away in a storm. But Jesus built his own house on sand.

The entire Six-Thousand-Year-Old-Earth club is a sand castle that is finally being swept into the sea.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

because in real life none of this uplifting rhetoric applied to Native Americans and enslaved Africans.

It wouldn’t have applied to any slave, even the European ones that were more common than African ones in the early days of settlement. Some of those European slaves were owned by Blacks. Some “Native” Americans (who were those red haired giants in their oral history, who were here when they arrived?) owned slaves.

And it’s quite something to see Biden acknowledging in public proven US industrial and political support to Nazism.

By omission, this suggests that the public proven US industrial support to the USSR was OK. Also OK was Roosevelt’s political support to encourage Poland not to settle the territorial dispute with Germany, and his interest free loan to “Uncle Joe” to re-build and re-arm the USSR post German invasion.
Suffice to say that most of the planet is puzzled by the Quadrennial Freak Show, trying to figure out how the domestic policy drives foreign policy, and whether their country will be on the shit list of the winner. Moralizing about past “sins” is a distraction.

“The entire Six-Thousand-Year-Old-Earth club is a sand castle that is finally being swept into the sea. ”

The rock is Truth and the Truth is the Word of God. Jesus did not build on sand, but unfortunately, many/most people claiming to be Christian have.

The rock is Truth and the Truth is the Word of God. Jesus did not build on sand, but unfortunately, many/most people claiming to be Christian have.

So what’s all this Judeo-Christian talk of End Times? A lack of faith? No, it’s an echo of Masada. It’s an acknowledgement that the cult will eventually be forced to succumb to Great Powers reality.

But the question is whether the U.S. has become so infiltrated by the sick cult that it will bring about a sort of End Times through nuclear Armageddon, just to “prove” that it was “right.”

Magalomaniacs are fanatical like that.

Fuck Jefferson. The USA is a backwater retrogressing in drift and chaotic adaptation. It’s an undeveloping country. Its constitution is obsolete crap, and anyway now it’s revoked for perpetual emergency rule by secret decree called COG. Western culture is subsumed in world culture, and it’s just as well because world culture is better. You want something, you better look outside your asscrack shithole country for it, because your parasitic state is of no use.

Your real founding fathers are the founding fathers and mothers of the world. Ricardo Alfaro, H.G. Wells, Rene Cassin, P.C. Chang, Charles Malik, Hansa Mehta, Eleanor Roosevelt, Virginia Gildersleeve.

You are confusing real Christians with fake Christians.

Jefferson borrowed freely from Locke, Rousseau, Hume to come up with an eminently quotable Greatest Hits, featuring “self-evident” truths such as “all men are created equal”, “unalienable rights”, and that searing “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

Thomas Paine wrote that.

Agree on Thomas Paine!

The Deep State does helpfully have these conferences to prepare the intellectual ground prior to attacking US democracy. Think PNAC ( Project for the New American Century) prior to 9/11.
Now it’s the TIP (Transition Integrity Project).

This past summer, the Transition Integrity Project (TIP) war-gamed possible scenarios post-November 3. All the scenarios lead to a huge constitutional crisis – forced, as part of the premise, by Trump’s refusal to concede his defeat at the polls.

TIP, predictably, is a proverbial Beltway bubble, composed of assorted Democratic Party higher-ups, Clintonistas, Obamistas and neo-con Never Trumpers.

Their message is now widely accepted as another avatar of “self-evident truths” because of this group’s powerful grip over Anglo-American mainstream media. Reverberations may be seen, for instance, here, here and here.

So the preferred doomsday scenario ahead spells out an engineered unresolved election, wide socio-political chaos, “continuity of government” protocols, even martial law.

If 9/11 was Russia February 1917, then an activated TIP is planned as Russia October 1917 i.e. a Deep State coup dealing the death blow to US democracy..

10% owning 70% of the wealth in USA does make for problems when the bottom half have had no increase in wealth for the past 30 years and currently at 4% dropping to 0? This in not the pursuit of happiness –equality-

Clearly Trump won this debate. The problem is: how many were still watching after an hour and a half of mostly drivel? If Trump had allowed Biden to finish his turn speaking in the first debate, instead of constantly interrupting, which let him off the hook, senile Old Joe would have self-destructed. As is, with up to half of voters having already voted early in-person or by mail-in ballot, it may be too little, too late.

What you may have missed is in your next to last sentence. “They are finally getting it.”

Gawd, I hope that they are and that you are right. But my thoughts turned to the wise words of H.L, Mencken: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

featuring “self-evident” truths such as “all men are created equal”, “unalienable rights”, and that searing “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

Thomas Paine wrote that.

Please — How is it that you know that?

The whole planet has every reason to be terminally puzzled at how all those lofty Enlightenment ideals Thomas Jefferson embedded in the 1776 Declaration of Independence ended up with…Trump vs. Biden.

Yeah, but those lofty ideals were only relevant to white, free (as in monied) people, not to indians (from the west Indies), negroes, slaves or indentured workers, and have-nots of any color. Same with the European thinkers’ postulates, they were meant only for other educated Europeans, not for the Chinese, Indians (from the east Indies) or for the European rabble. That’s why it is so easy to adapt the Jeffersonian rhetoric of 250yrs ago to today’s discursive nonsense from the US/EU Ziocorporate globalist terrorist regimes posing as “democracies/republics” while they’re killing and war-profiteering off their New World Order machinations. The mythical BS of the American “founding fathers” always belies the fact that they thought themselves peers of the king of England, not peers of European peasants and merchants paying tribute to the aristocracy. It wasn’t long after the American “revolution” that Simón Bolívar warned that the US would be enslaving the Americas in the name of “freedom”, the Monroe Doctrine, which could’ve come out of any imperial European mind of the early 1800’s, came only a few yrs later.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/07/its-true-thomas-paine-really-did-write-the-declaration-of-independence/

Thanks for the Thomas Paine article —- have been a Paine fan for many years. He is a true wordsmith.

I believe that he wrote the first draft of The Declaration of Independence.