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Eurasia Takes Shape: How the SCO Just Flipped the World Order
As a rudderless West watched on, the 20th anniversary meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization was laser-focused on two key deliverables: shaping up Afghanistan and kicking off a full-spectrum Eurasian integration.
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The two defining moments of the historic 20th anniversary Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit in Dushanbe, Tajikistan had to come from the keynote speeches of – who else – the leaders of the Russia-China strategic partnership.

Xi Jinping: “Today we will launch procedures to admit Iran as a full member of the SCO.”

Vladimir Putin: “I would like to highlight the Memorandum of Understanding that was signed today between the SCO Secretariat and the Eurasian Economic Commission. It is clearly designed to further Russia’s idea of establishing a Greater Eurasia Partnership covering the SCO, the EAEU (Eurasian Economic Union), ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) and China’s Belt and Road initiative (BRI).”

In short, over the weekend, Iran was enshrined in its rightful, prime Eurasian role, and all Eurasian integration paths converged toward a new global geopolitical – and geoeconomic – paradigm, with a sonic boom bound to echo for the rest of the century.

That was the killer one-two punch immediately following the Atlantic alliance’s ignominious imperial retreat from Afghanistan. Right as the Taliban took control of Kabul on August 15, the redoubtable Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of Russia’s Security Council, told his Iranian colleague Admiral Ali Shamkhani that “the Islamic Republic will become a full member of the SCO.”

Dushanbe revealed itself as the ultimate diplomatic crossover. President Xi firmly rejected any “condescending lecturing” and emphasized development paths and governance models compatible with national conditions. Just like Putin, he stressed the complementary focus of BRI and the EAEU, and in fact summarized a true multilateralist Manifesto for the Global South.

Right on point, President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev of Kazakhstan noted that the SCO should advance “the development of a regional macro-economy.” This is reflected in the SCO’s drive to start using local currencies for trade, bypassing the US dollar.

Watch that quadrilateral

Dushanbe was not just a bed of roses. Tajikistan’s Emomali Rahmon, a staunch, secular Muslim and former member of the Communist Party of the USSR – in power for no less than 29 years, reelected for the 5th time in 2020 with 90 percent of the vote – right off the bat denounced the “medieval sharia” of Taliban 2.0 and said they had already “abandoned their previous promise to form an inclusive government.”

Rahmon, who has never been caught smiling on camera, was already in power when the Taliban conquered Kabul in 1996. He was bound to publicly support his Tajik cousins against the “expansion of extremist ideology” in Afghanistan – which in fact worries all SCO member-states when it comes to smashing dodgy jihadi outfits of the ISIS-K mold .

The meat of the matter in Dushanbe was in the bilaterals – and one quadrilateral.

Take the bilateral between Indian External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar and Chinese FM Wang Yi. Jaishankar said that China should not view “its relations with India through the lens of a third country,” and took pains to stress that India “does not subscribe to any clash of civilizations theory.”

That was quite a tough sell considering that the first in-person Quad summit takes place this week in Washington, DC, hosted by that “third country” which is now knee deep in clash-of-civilizations mode against China.

Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan was on a bilateral roll, meeting the presidents of Iran, Belarus, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. The official Pakistani diplomatic position is that Afghanistan should not be abandoned, but engaged.

That position added nuance to what Russian Special Presidential Envoy for SCO Affairs Bakhtiyer Khakimov had explained about Kabul’s absence at the SCO table: “At this stage, all member states have an understanding that there are no reasons for an invitation until there is a legitimate, generally recognized government in Afghanistan.”

And that, arguably, leads us to the key SCO meeting: a quadrilateral with the Foreign Ministers of Russia, China, Pakistan and Iran.

Pakistani Foreign Minister Qureshi affirmed: “We are monitoring whether all the groups are included in the government or not.” The heart of the matter is that, from now on, Islamabad coordinates the SCO strategy on Afghanistan, and will broker Taliban negotiations with senior Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara leaders. This will eventually lead the way towards an inclusive government regionally recognized by SCO member-nations.

Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi was warmly received by all – especially after his forceful keynote speech, an Axis of Resistance classic. His bilateral with Belarus president Aleksandr Lukashenko revolved around a discussion on “sanctions confrontation.” According to Lukashenko: “If the sanctions did any harm to Belarus, Iran, other countries, it was only because we ourselves are to blame for this. We were not always negotiable, we did not always find the path we had to take under the pressure of sanctions.”

Considering Tehran is fully briefed on Islamabad’s SCO role in terms of Afghanistan, there will be no need to deploy the Fatemiyoun brigade – informally known as the Afghan Hezbollah – to defend the Hazaras. Fatemiyoun was formed in 2012 and was instrumental in Syria in the fight against Daesh, especially in Palmyra. But if ISIS-K does not go away, that’s a completely different story.

Particular important for SCO members Iran and India will be the future of Chabahar port. That remains India’s crypto-Silk Road gambit to connect it to Afghanistan and Central Asia. The geoeconomic success of Chabahar more than ever depends on a stable Afghanistan – and this is where Tehran’s interests fully converge with Russia-China’s SCO drive.

What the 2021 SCO Dushanbe Declaration spelled out about Afghanistan is quite revealing:

1. Afghanistan should be an independent, neutral, united, democratic and peaceful state, free of terrorism, war and drugs.

2. It is critical to have an inclusive government in Afghanistan, with representatives from all ethnic, religious and political groups of Afghan society.

3. SCO member states, emphasizing the significance of the many years of hospitality and effective assistance provided by regional and neighboring countries to Afghan refugees, consider it important for the international community to make active efforts to facilitate their dignified, safe and sustainable return to their homeland.

As much as it may sound like an impossible dream, this is the unified message of Russia, China, Iran, India, Pakistan and the Central Asian “stans.” One hopes that Pakistani PM Imran Khan is up to the task and ready for his SCO close-up.

That troubled Western peninsula

The New Silk Roads were officially launched eight years ago by Xi Jinping, first in Astana – now Nur-Sultan – and then in Jakarta.

This is how I reported it at the time.

The announcement came close to a SCO summit – then in Bishkek. The SCO, widely dismissed in Washington and Brussels as a mere talk shop, was already surpassing its original mandate of fighting the “three evil forces” – terrorism, separatism and extremism – and encompassing politics and geoeconomics.

In 2013, there was a Xi-Putin-Rouhani trilateral. Beijing expressed full support for Iran’s peaceful nuclear program (remember, this was two years before the signing of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, also known as the JCPOA).

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Despite many experts dismissing it at the time, there was indeed a common China-Russia-Iran front on Syria (Axis of Resistance in action). Xinjiang was being promoted as the key hub for the Eurasian Land Bridge. Pipelineistan was at the heart of the Chinese strategy – from Kazakhstan oil to Turkmenistan gas. Some people may even remember when Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, was waxing lyrical about an American-propelled New Silk Road.

Now compare it to Xi’s Multilateralism Manifesto in Dushanbe eight years later, reminiscing on how the SCO “has proved to be an excellent example of multilateralism in the 21stcentury,” and “has played an important role in enhancing the voice of developing countries.”

The strategic importance of this SCO summit taking place right after the Eastern Economic Forum (EEF) in Vladivostok cannot be overstated enough. The EEF focuses of course on the Russian Far East – and essentially advances interconnectivity between Russia and Asia. It is an absolutely key hub of Russia’s Greater Eurasian Partnership.

A cornucopia of deals is on the horizon – expanding from the Far East to the Arctic and the development of the Northern Sea Route, and involving everything from precious metals and green energy to digital sovereignty flowing through logistics corridors between Asia and Europe via Russia.

As Putin hinted in his keynote speech, this is what the Greater Eurasia Partnership is all about: the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU), BRI, India’s initiative, ASEAN, and now the SCO, developing in a harmonized network, crucially operated by “sovereign decision-making centers.”

So if the BRI proposes a very Taoist “community of shared future for human kind,” the Russian project, conceptually, proposes a dialogue of civilizations (already evoked by the Khatami years in Iran) and sovereign economic-political projects. They are, indeed, complementary.

Glenn Diesen, Professor at the University of South-Eastern Norway and an editor at the Russia in Global Affairs journal, is among the very few top scholars who are analyzing this process in depth. His latest book remarkably tells the whole story in its title: Europe as the Western Peninsula of Greater Eurasia: Geoeconomic Regions in a Multipolar World. It’s not clear whether Eurocrats in Brussels – slaves of Atlanticism and incapable of grasping the potential of Greater Eurasia – will end up exercising real strategic autonomy.

Diesen evokes in detail the parallels between the Russian and the Chinese strategies. He notes how China “is pursuing a three-pillared geoeconomic initiative by developing technological leadership via its China 2025 plan, new transportation corridors via its trillion-dollar Belt and Road Initiative, and establishing new financial instruments such as banks, payment systems and the internationalization of the yuan. Russia is similarly pursuing technological sovereignty, both in the digital sphere and beyond, as well as new transportation corridors such as the Northern Sea Route through the Arctic, and, primarily, new financial instruments.”

The whole Global South, stunned by the accelerated collapse of the western Empire and its unilateral “rules-based order, now seems to be ready to embrace the new groove, fully displayed in Dushanbe: a multipolar Greater Eurasia of sovereign equals.

(Republished from The Cradle by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Passer by says:

    Funny to see how western brainwashing machines (MSM) are silent on SCO, on it taking over security and economics in Asia, or on Iran joining SCO. Iran joining SCO is a big deal. Its new Government says Asia first. Forget about any US “sanctions” affecting that country. Interconnectivity in the world’s largest continent and economy (Asia) is growing, completely bypassing the US. Pipelines, roads, railways, digital cables, trade..

    Poor brainwashed western populations must not think that big changes are happening and that the West is retreating and declining. Its all about what happened yesterday in the US or the UK. Not about China investing 400 billion \$ in Iran or about Russian energy/gas giants putting Europe to its knees.

  2. @Passer by

    True, true. The Western dupes are concentrating on the next “quarterly reports” of their fave corporation of “white guilt,” trannies, or wokeness, while true statesmen envision decades or centuries ahead for their peoples.

    Native Americans held councils and debated decisions and paths for their tribes as to how their actions would affect the fourth and fifth generations to come.

    …and the ‘civilized’ White Man called them “Savages.”

  3. MN Steel says:

    Ahh, the ol’ “Road to Dushanbe” trick, eh?

    I think I saw a Cold War documentary about that area…

  4. pdb says:

    The world is breaking loose and getting free from Western usury, sanctions, terrorism, thefts, war crimes, crimes against humanity, multiple genocides, and mendacity without measure. The global bully has no friends and is isolated from meaningful win-win relationships with sovereign nations, not that it wants that kind of relationships. It prefers killing and stealing in dishonor rather than being honorably productive and working with others. Division and Chaos are just two of the chickens that are coming home to roost in the USA. wholesale looting has been here a while already, and genocide is on its way, probably.
    Patrick

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Thanks: Alternate History
  5. g8way says:

    The Coudenhove-Kalergi, Cloward-Piven, Bunting Cloverleaf plan is right on schedule. The 150 year final solution to the Goyim Question is almost complete.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
  6. onebornfree says: • Website

    “With Iran’s arrival, the SCO member-states now number nine, and they’re focused on fixing Afghanistan….. ”

    “Fixing Afghanistan” huh?

    Sure, this group of a\$\$holes will “fix” Afghanistan. 😂😛😆

    Some reminders for y’all:

    “Everything government touches turns to crap” Ringo Starr

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” H.L.Mencken

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “Regards”, onebornfree

  7. onebornfree says: • Website

    More reminders for y’all:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.” Albert J. Nock

    So a bunch of criminal psychopaths are gonna “Fix” Afghanistan?

    Yeah, they’ll “fix” it alright. 😎

    Regards, onebornfree

  8. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:

    Add to this the betryal of France by US UK and Australia. Australia turned into Bahrain for USA.
    Also the new labeling on the open bottle fillled with old wine – ” We paid Pakistan. We can India ” to maintian the chaos in Afghanistan to hamstring China – roared a Republican Senator. Blinken would discuss that off camera with Modi. So he said.

    ——
    Afghanistan is seeing the spike in ISIS run violence . At this stage,it is not conducive to the desired transformation to demand major cultural changes from Taliban. Demands should be limited to Afghanistan doing everything possible to uproot Saudi- UAE- America- UK ‘s influence and destroy ISIS.

    SCO should focus on interbanking, trade and should build instututions for cross cultural growth .SCO should coordinate behaviors and responses at UN .
    SCO should demand that coercing third party to follow sanction is war and be removed from lexicon

    • Replies: @Brooklyn Dave
  9. Ohio Guy says:

    I’m dumping my job and preparing for the incoming financial fallout that is certainly to come. Few in western nations understand Taoism, let alone the desire of Asian nations, mother Russia and her slavik neighbors, Iran, parts of Europe and even Africa, to be free from western sanctions, debt slavery, wars and general hate and selfishness. I’ve lived in the heart of amerikka for 55 years and never, ever, have I seen professional leadership the likes of which are on the other side of this planet from where I sit. And that’s a fact, Jack!

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Montefrío
    , @xcd
  10. RobinG says:
    @Ohio Guy

    Agree about those other side leaders. How are you preparing? Does dumping job imply you’re leaving?

    OT, but —
    Tough road ahead for Kashmir separatist movement after Geelani
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tough-road-ahead-for-kashmir-separatist-movement-after-geelani/ar-AAOHhpP?ocid=msedgntp

    • Replies: @Ohio Guy
  11. The can-do vigour of the peoples of China and Russia puts the west to shame.

  12. Unlike the USA, The CSO are using diplomatic agreements to advance their cooperation rather than scorched earth tactics used by the illegitimate Biden Regime and his former leftist One World One Gender Rainbow Caliphate GlobalHomo advocates.
    As an American I can only applaud our adversaries for their unrelenting approach for global equilibrium by refusing to partake in a world that is devoid of common human instincts and culture.
    What we have now here in the US is a illegitimate Biden Regime hell bent on the destruction of not only America, but the entire human race.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  13. @onebornfree

    One born dead, intellectually and spiritually, like all ‘libertarians’.

    • Agree: dogbumbreath, Seraphim
    • Replies: @Bro43rd
  14. @pdb

    Nicely put, pdp.

    But Scott Morrison is on his knees licking a certain part of the US anatomy.

    I doubt if he ever thinks of anything but Rapture.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Seraphim
  15. You do not want to be ruled by Chinese, and rulership is all they are about: China Number One, everyone else “less than zero”. This extends to an internal hierarchy of absolute submission(Kowtow!!!) by the poor Chinese to the rich Chinese. Ask me how I know. I live among them. I respect them, and aspects of Chinese culture(TCM, Chinese astrology) are an integral part of my life, but I am under no illusions about what they are. A Filipina once told me “The Chinese are like jews, everything is about money”. Other East Asians are under no delusions of what the Chinese are. Pablo Escobar is a purveyor of delusions.

  16. DrWatson says:

    There are two (maybe three) noticable demographic differences between the “West” and the East (“Eurasia”) if you think about it:

    1. The West has a sizable black population and is being inundated by them, e.g. Haitians on the Mexican border – the East has no blacks.

    2. The West is controlled by Jews, with all the pathologies present this usually entails. The East is devoid of such power structure.

    3. No Amerindians in the East either – the West is full of them and their number is continuously increasing (probably exponentially).

    The people of the East are quite capable and willing to work and produce the goods the West consumes. The West stopped producing and is becoming a degenerate welfare state for the “chosen” populations.

    • Replies: @Brooklyn Dave
  17. Rich says:
    @CPL Antero Rokka

    The reason Indians might be called savages is the way they tortured captives. Cutting off ears, noses, pieces of flesh. One trick was to cut open the abdomen and tie the intestines to a tree. The squaws liked to castrate living captives, too, as well as stabbing and beating until dying captives finally gave up the ghost. Yes, savages.

  18. Alea iacta – so the only question remaining is where Europe will land.

    Somewhat à propos, the German elections are imminent.
    Whoda thunk the Greens would outgrovel the Free Democrats as the
    compradorest of all Atlanticist comprador parties? They don´t even pretend to
    anything green any longer.
    Soeder has kowtowed to (((Party Central))), so it´s Tweedledee vs. Tweedledum.

    Lasciate ogni speranza 😀

  19. @Bombercommand

    A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You have superficial knowledge of the Chinese and yet you purport to know them well. You apparently live/lived in a Southeast Asian nation with a small Chinese minority. Your contacts with them are limited.

    Go and live in a Chinese majority country a few years, learn to speak Chinese. And no some glancing stereotypical knowledge of TCM, Chinese Astrology, Fengshui does not count. After living there a few years, I would then be interested to know your opinion then.

    • Agree: showmethereal
  20. @anon

    If the Taliban burn all the poppy fields which help fund US black ops and child trafficking that is good enough for me at this point.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
  21. Ja, can see 24/7 rtc flights JFK to Tel Aviv, all full …
    future Museums to Jewish perfidy …
    Learned tomes on How could we ever …

    The wonderful voice of the gentleman Roy Orbison R.I.P. —

    “Setting suns before they fall, Echo to you That’s all, that’s all …”

    • Agree: Rubicon
  22. padre says:
    @onebornfree

    Well, they can sure fix it better than West did in 20 years!

  23. Smith says:

    Hopefully this will improve infrastructure in these countries. I always wanted to visit the great plains of Central Asia.

    Speaking of great plains, anyone find it weird that Mongolia isn’t in the SCO?

    • Replies: @lizzie dw
    , @showmethereal
  24. @Bombercommand

    Did you ever think there might be 2 factions vying for power in China? One being a Trump-like faction that wants to rid itself of globalist bankers, Zionist influence and a one world government. The other faction being the globalist One World Corporate Fascists. If this is true, the SCO is a big slap in the face to the Bangksters, a kick in the gonads to the Zionists (because of its inclusion of Iran), and a win for the so-called “white hats” in China. The source of power of these Bangksters is the US. If it comes tumbling down, so will Europe, and so will the Bangksters in China. Maybe we have to go down first. Neither of these sides like the USA, but there is a difference. Our system, as it currently is, needs to be brought down. The Trump-like faction in China knows we are very weak at this point, have a Dr. Demento in the White House, have a Congress that has been selling its butt to anyone for the right price. The Bangkster faction is operating with the same info as the other team – but their intention is just pure control and domination of the American people.

  25. @DrWatson

    In China, there is a small population of blacks -Shanghai, Beijing -other big cities, but not so large a number to upset anything. Chinese really don’t care for blacks. They make sure they stay on a short leash.

  26. @CelestiaQuesta

    If you manage to get rid of the illegitimate Biden Regime, you’ll just get an other illegitimate regime. It’s the entire system that’s rotten, not just any given administration. But, I guess you know that.

    The US needs to be ended. The Fed Gov isn’t a legitimate gov’t at all. It’s a mafia organization ruin by the deep state which is comprised of the US military, the intel agencies, the banking establishment and the major corporations. Elections are window dressing.

    People need to stop cooperating with any and all gov’t mandates (laws) that they disagree with.

    • Replies: @Realist
  27. Weaver says:
    @CPL Antero Rokka

    Christians viewed everyone who wasn’t Christian as “savage” more or less. The same terms would have been used with any fringe Europeans or pagan Europeans, fringe there not meaning race but poverty, lack of development.

    It’s very odd how you praise Amerindians though. They couldn’t unite at all, very divided. Divisions weren’t only among tribes and nations but within tribes. And parts of North America had some irrigation and agriculture, impressive temples and construction; but you also had slavery and cannibalism, constant wars.

    You can look at how mostly “pure” Amerindians behave with Greenland. High crime, but they do well on the whole.

    Anyway, I regret the loss of Amerindian nations. It would have been neat to preserve some nations and to also preserve a European state within the US. Instead, we have cosmo globalism.

  28. lel says:
    @Bombercommand

    >TCM and astrology
    You sound like my superstitious grandma lol

  29. anon[222] • Disclaimer says:

    “sraeli official told Axios that Israel wants the US to move forward with a “plan B” since nuclear deal talks have been stalled since June 20th. The alternative plan the Israelis would like to see would involve more sanctions on Iran, although the Biden administration has implemented a few rounds of Iran-related sanctions in recent months.

    An Israeli official told Walla News that during the meeting, the US conveyed to Israel if talks don’t resume soon, the US will impose even more sanctions on Iran. US sanctions have decimated Iran’s economy, and Washington is now eyeing measures that would disrupt Tehran’s oil trade to East Asia, which has been a vital lifeline for the country.

    Also—

    Question should be what USA would if it returns not what Taliban with their promises.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/22/life-in-bagram-through-the-eyes-of-former-prisoners

    Last week, Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz hinted that Israel is working on a “plan C” that involves military action against Iran, and the Israeli Defense Forces have said they are “accelerating” plans to attack Iran. The Israelis frequently take covert action against Iran, which Bennett has vowed his government will continue.”

    https://news.antiwar.com/2021/09/22/report-us-israel-held-secret-talks-on-possible-plan-b-for-iran/

    ——

    Why is Israel obsessed with Iran? Question can be reframed as why Israel was obsessed with the indigenous Arab of the Palestine or the residents of the land known as future Palestine state in 1948,or with the Kurd in 1950 or with Syria in 1955 or with Nasser and Saddam Ghaddafi and later with Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and now with Syria and Iran.
    The leopard has not and will not change its spot. It has survived by antagonizing . It has depended on monetary rescue packages and military supplies from west . The antagonistic behaviors elicit reactions . Israel seeks more everytime a reaction is elicited. Tomorrow,it would be Pakistan and day after it woukd be Afghanistan once Iran is turned into Iraq as AIPAC delegates and attendees gloated over expecting the result before Cheney would become history of putrid bloddsucking moneylaundering sick cadavar.

    Its in the interest of Iran Pakistan and Afghanistan that they coordinate their responses to Israel aggression and Indian machination.

    Indias domestic policy of eventual social econimic elimination of muslims and the religious barrier in Israel to muslim’s roles and rights dovetail smoothly with each other ‘s situation and moral religious compass. Both also look at expansion.

    SCO is not the right platform for Iran Pakistan and Afghanistan to addresss this .

  30. @onebornfree

    It is critical to have an inclusive government in Afghanistan, with representatives from all ethnic, religious and political groups of Afghan society.

    Wonder if the new Chinese ambassador will be giving any lectures on equality for the women.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  31. Ross23 says:

    The wild card is India.

    It’s a nuclear power and a billion population but they are not too keen on China, even having a border skirmish between them recently

    Which side will they choose?

    If they choose the west no doubt they’ll try to build them up in the same way they did China from the 80’s – 00’s and use them as an anti China.

    I would be surprised if the US didn’t do that

  32. @CPL Antero Rokka

    You’re missing a rather critical point. None of those who you describe as missing what’s going on are actually white men. They are either Jews or their servile puppets. It is a fundamental missing piece in everything to not only realize that about America and by extension Europe, but also to not realize that Jews are essentially a kind of transnation, a nation of people that breach all other boundaries and loyalties.

    There are no Jews anywhere that are more loyal to their host nation over Jews of any other place. It is a quite stark distinction. There is no other people who are like that on the whole face of the planet. Ignoring that fact, which essentially all people in the mainstream simply ignore, be it out of ignorance and stupidity, or because they know it’s true and cannot speak out for fear of retribution, simply makes all their analysis and judgements inherently incorrect.

    It’s like trying to cure someone with cancer while ignoring the obvious cancer. We can see the cancer, why not investigate whether all the symptoms that align with cancer may be caused by the big and obvious growing cancer.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Maowasayali
  33. Rahan says:
    @Bombercommand

    A Filipina once told me “The Chinese are like jews, everything is about money”.

    Diasporas of all sorts are “all about money” (and nepotism), including Armenians, Pakistanis, and many others. The Chinese are indeed in this group, especially the southern Cantonese subtype, whom the rest of China also views as “Jews”.

    But “being like a Jew” in the real sense is not this. It’s not “being an Armenian, but Jewish”. It’s about destroying your host society and delighting in it. That’s a different game altogether.

    In the West, east Asians follow their cultural pattern–conform to prevalent norms. Today in globohomo land the norms are “hate whitey, complain, subvert, do double anal”. Thus some Asians do that, but not, unlike Jews, because it comes from some innate need to hate whitey, complain, subvert etc., but because this is the prevalent norm which they stepped into and thus imitate.

    If the prevalent social norm was respect whitey, disrespect Jews and blacks, shame sluts, the Asians would be doing this with the exact same automatism. Perhaps with even more innate enthusiasm.

    No. It’s one thing to have gooks take over your schools and real estate through sheer educational masochism and “protestant ethics”, to have Turks take over your taxis and strip clubs, Albanians take over the drug trade and cafeterias, and Bangladeshis to become the family grocery store mafia of the city.

    It’s another thing to have Jews take over the nervous system of your society and kill it in front of your eyes while screaming that you’re a fascists and it hurts so much from all the torture you’re doing to them. That’s not “just another Asiatic nepotic mafia”. That’s “reptiles from Sirius”.

    • Agree: Miro23, Badger Down
  34. The writing is on the wall. The only question that remains: are the parasites able to infest and dominate the East? Chabad surrounds Putin and is entrenched in Russia. Chabad has been steadily growing its presence in China. Chabad has manipulated its way into Persian Jewry slowly.

    The Geist is moving East again. As part of the movement, it will include radical paradigm shifts. Will the parasites flourish again? Will the Talmud and Kabbalah, with their doctrines of evil, manifest in Eastern thought of the monotheistic, pantheistic, and socio-political kind? That is the big question.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  35. Rahan says:

    Concerning the pressing issue of our times as in the COVID thing and the kike-spike mandates. The Eurasian grand alliances are part of that.

    India and China half-heartedly, but for example Tajikistan and Turkmenistan are the only countries on Earth where the jab is mandatory for absolutely everyone. Italy on steroids.

    These people are still mostly cargo-cultists concerning the West. They may badmouth it all they want, but when a snap decision needs to be made, inside their skulls something goes “ping” and a robotic voice says “Whatever France and England are doing this is also what we must do as well!”

    China, India, and Iran are ancient civilization cores and this shields them somewhat, but the ‘Stans and even Russia and Belarus–there the pro-Western cargocultism is a deep-rooted reflex which has yet to be softened at least somewhat.

    Hungary too. When the jab-peddlers say “jump”, Orban and Putin (and Turkey, and the Philippines, etc) say “how high?”. They literally “believe The Science”.

    They may wage their little wars against trannies or show off some new tank or what have you, but once push comes to a shove, the moment “The Science” in some “elite” place like Germany or Canada claims something is true, all the “anti-globohomo alternative centers” trip over their own tits rushing to fulfill the demands of The Science.

    Until these places start filtering all the informational and social impulses from the post-West, and choosing what to use and what to not use, as opposed to opening themselves up completely when it’s “The Economy” or “The Science”–until then it’s just posturing by insecure second-rate players.

  36. @onebornfree

    So?

    Okay.

    If all governments are criminal enterprises and if every individual is compelled by force to live under the mantle of one, then isn’t the crux of the issue whether one is allowed to participate in the gang and thereby derive some measure of benefits and protection?

    Isn’t this all the more reason why one would not want to be ruled by an aristocracy made up of aliens who feel no sense of mutual obligation towards their underlings? Disenfranchised and alone–“free”, as you put it–one will die off. Methinks you are a fifth columnist working for the enemy of white Europeans.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  37. “One hopes that Pakistani PM Imran Khan is up to the task and ready for his SCO close-up.”

    This is the problem with the Latin writers, who engage in the English medium: they don’t understand world in the way that old civilizations do.

    Pakis are an artificial breed, just like the byproducts of Imran Khan and Jemima “the Jewess” Goldsmidt union and the offspring must decide whether they are Jews or Muslims but not both and similarly, the nations of Asia will not be able to truck with both China and the West… they’ll have to decide sooner rather than later.

    And it’s going to be fifty-fifty, no win, no lose!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  38. @Rahan

    You make some good points. In my post above yours, I mention “radical paradigm shifts,” and I think that is what is necessary, that the whole “a priori grid” fundamentally changes, in all the countries you mentioned, as well as in America in the masses. It has to, or else we will see a more and more quickening decline in America, and sadly, the same thing that happened in the West, repackaged and applied in the East– a new Gilded Age in the East.

    The Talmudic Dialectic has to be eradicated. The Covid fauxdemic and vaccine deception is part of that Talmudic Dialectic.

    • Thanks: Rahan
  39. @onebornfree

    They SCO countries all have the same world fiat banker located in London. A friendly reminder to Mr Escobar: the US is a dangerous nuclear – biological power run by criminally insane idiots. No matter how satisfying you find our collapse, it will get worse for all.

    • Agree: Rev. Spooner
    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @anon
  40. As long as SCO politics will be joining without aggression and coercion SCO will be successful.

  41. @CPL Antero Rokka

    The whole Global South, stunned by the accelerated collapse of the Racist Supremacist Global Jewish slave empire dictatorship and its unilateral “Jewish rules-based order,

    There is no West it has been conquered by the Racist Supremacist Global Jewish slave empire dictatorship. Another 50 years of this and there will be no Europeans left on this planet.

    Iran and now China maybe Russia are the only resistance to the Racist Supremacist Global Jewish satanic slave empire dictatorship

  42. Realist says:
    @RoatanBill

    The US needs to be ended. The Fed Gov isn’t a legitimate gov’t at all. It’s a mafia organization ruin by the deep state which is comprised of the US military, the intel agencies, the banking establishment and the major corporations. Elections are window dressing.

    People need to stop cooperating with any and all gov’t mandates (laws) that they disagree with.

    Yes, indeed, but so far I see no sign of that happening. As I have stated before:

    The Deep State doesn’t care about the unimportant internecine squabbles of the two parties as long as their important issues are advanced (wealth and power). As a matter of fact, it strengthens the false perception that there is a choice when voting. In fact, we live under a plutocratic oligarchy.

    The Deep State does not care what U. S. citizens want. They know that most U. S. citizens are inane fools and will believe anything. Most Americans would rather watch America’s Got Talent, or Dancing With The Stars, or The Masked Singer than being informed about important issues.

    The vast majority of Americans believe that Capitalism and Democracy are two gods joined at the hip. Anything is fair game in the furtherance of, or defense of Capitalism and Democracy. The worship of this, the combination of economic/government, system has reached the level of religious dogma. This fact did not go unnoticed by those that strived to gain complete control of the United States and thereby hegemonic control of the world…a unipolar world. I referrer to this concept and the people that work toward it as the Deep State. The idea of using wealth to gain power is by no means a new one…even in this country. It has been a dream of the rich in this country for many decades, but progress was limited…until 1945. Everything changed after WWII. The wealthy found that during the war the opportunity to become even more fabulously rich (this was also the case during WWI) was possible. To the wealthy and powerful the possibility of total world control didn’t seem so impossible to reach. For the last seventy-six years there has been an all out push by the Deep State to achieve the unipolar world. This effort has been obvious to those that were not too blinded by the dogma. There were numerous events that were planned to further the power of the Deep State…I will not list them here. The total control of the United States is almost complete, but the goal of a unipolar world has some major roadblocks.

  43. Joe Wong says:
    @pdb

    What else can you expect from Western Monotheistic Fundamental Cult Pirates?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  44. Joe Wong says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    “Equality” is vague and noncommittal, it is like glorified lies. Taking steps to improve quality of life, like improving opportunity to education, jobs, etc. definitely are worthwhile promoting.

  45. @Realist

    Excellent analysis and very well written.

    Let me borrow PCR’s favorite word to describe the bulk of the US population – insouciant. They will remain asleep till something hits them over the head and that will be when their bellies ache from hunger or when they have no fuel to fend off the cold. That’s when things get real, when reality can no longer be denied.

    It’s the economy, stupid.
    James Carville

    The irrational exuberance to spend, spend, spend by the honorable / distinguished / assholes in congress are adding fuel for a hyperinflation future. As the dollar goes, so does their control. It is only when the people realize that they’ve been completely deceived by their elected representatives that they will react and it will be with anger.

    I see only two options for the deep state. Either the US military takes over as an in your face dictatorship before the SHTF, or there will be rioting all over the country after the SHTF, followed by the dictatorship. Either way, the future looks bleak.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Realist
  46. @Ohio Guy

    I understand Taoism, have been practicing Taoism/Zen for 50+years amd am a bit at a loss as to how Taoism enters into this. Thanks for any clarification you can offer.

    • Replies: @J
    , @SeekerofthePresence
  47. anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ross23

    India tries or tried to punch above its weight . Now it doesn’t because no one holds same respect for it anymore as was the case during Nehru-Ghandhi .
    Now it tries to score points in electoral contest by citing friendships with US ,UK ,and Israel . Bush Trump Netanyahu have been immensely popular because of anti terrorism anti Muslim rhetorics .
    Ideological alignment with these people have helped Indian government to solidify its identity as anti Muslims . This sells during election . BJP ‘s rise is based on this psychological trait .

    This can’t avoid getting translated into foreign policy of anti Muslim attitude .
    Saudi Arab , Ghani of Afghanistan, UAE and Maldives and Bangladesh are appreciated because these countries recently have started sounding ‘anti Muslim ‘ or open to Israel .

    Iran despite being anti Taliban , anti ISIS has not gained traction in Indian minds partly here the issue is of subjecting core interest of India to the powerful USA and the gate keeper Israel amd sound same time anti Islamic . So they went along .

    India is not going ever rise above these calculations. It has survived for millennia by adjusting and accommodating the powerful . A nation that survives this way , will never have an identity based on any belief .

    • Agree: antibeast, Rev. Spooner
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  48. onebornfree says: • Website
    @ThreeCranes

    “Methinks you are a fifth columnist…….”

    Well, regardless of whatever a “fifth columnist” is in your tiny mind( I have no idea), methinks you don’t think at all. 😎

    “Regards” onebornfree

    • Disagree: Rev. Spooner
  49. Anon[343] • Disclaimer says:

    These days Sanctions seem to only isolate the US and it’s vassals.

  50. I think I’ll gain around 100 lbs. and put on a Sydney Greenstreet persona and begin my career as an international trader in Asian products. I’ll be known as the guy to “see” for a deal. Why not, probably half of our representatives in Congress and the Senate, including the Prez are bought off by China and other slave labor nations. Warren Buffett made easy. Just trade with slave labor nations.

    • Replies: @Anon
  51. hillaire says:

    The problem with this thesis, is not that a world run by a motley collection of despotic easterners is anything to look forward to (it isn’t), irregardless of peepees pant wetting and excitement at the demise of the ‘regime’, nor that the west deserves to exist further in its current state (hint: it doesn’t)…

    The big problem, for all these gangsters, is that of course the ‘jews’ will be running the souk..
    they already do of course.. this is all theatre, merely a transitioning of the empire they funded with your work and brains…..East… the asylum north of mexico and it’s vassals are now experiencing the late stage of schlomo’s scorched earth policy..

    The problem for the ‘jews’ of course is all that financial delerium is done with, all these imbeciles are paper tigers too.. the ‘covid’ nonsense illustrates the position of these yiddish miscreant satraps…

    cleansing fire is coming… mmmmmm toasty…

  52. @pdb

    “The world is breaking loose and getting free from Western usury, sanctions, terrorism, thefts, war crimes, crimes against humanity, multiple genocides, and mendacity without measure. ”

    I sure hope you are correct but I don’t see the jews relinquishing their control of world financial power just yet. Would they not find their way into the SCO alliance?

  53. @Brooklyn Dave

    I think the Taliban 2.0 is quite happy to allow the poppy fields to continue only the opium is forbidden to be used within Afghanistan. It is to be exported and that of course leads to funds into the country and dispair in the west.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  54. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @RedpilledAF

    The Geist is moving East again. As part of the movement, it will include radical paradigm shifts. Will the parasites flourish again? Will the Talmud and Kabbalah, with their doctrines of evil, manifest in Eastern thought of the monotheistic, pantheistic, and socio-political kind? That is the big question.

    If they do, the East deserves exactly what it will get, just like the West deserves what it is getting for letting down its guard and giving ((Jews)) license and even a place of honor.

    Bring back out the Christian hammer and start pounding down the parasites, and the West will be back in charge in no time. Don’t… and it deserves to continue sinking into the ((Jewish)) cesspool.

    ((Jews)) are an unchanging catalyst for evil. Give them entre at your peril.

    • Agree: RedpilledAF
  55. Jiminy says:

    China spending a trillion dollars on the bri. No doubt the US government is scoffing, thinking so what, we spent two and a half trillion killing people. Shame there’s nobody with vision there to develop a bri of their own from America all the way down to Argentina. To get away from the tensions and killings for a while, if only for a decade or two.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  56. Dystopian says:
    @Bombercommand

    Having done a good bit of business with Chinese entities I agree with your sentiment. Jews may have some competition as the stingiest race. Where most westerners view crooked business dealings as contemptuous, Chinese folks seem to view screwing someone as a badge of honor. I always structure deals with every possible consequence written out and make sure I get paid before they get what they want. Otherwise, they will disappear and never pay a dime for my services.

    • Agree: beavertales
    • Replies: @littlereddot
  57. Tjoe says:
    @CPL Antero Rokka

    Just finished a good book “The Manitous”. Spoiler not in the book is that Indians had no sense of “one God”, it was missionary’s that brought the concept of Gitche or Kitche Manitou as one God over all. I’m making a totem pole in honor of the forest Manitous.

  58. lizzie dw says:
    @Smith

    Hello.
    My understanding is that Mongolia has observer status in the SCO, along with Afghanistan and Belarus. Iran has moved to full membership.

    There are dialogue partners, also: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Cambodia, Nepal, Sri Lanka and Turkey.

    As you can see, the members are: Russia, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, China, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Iran.

    • Replies: @Smith
  59. J says:
    @Montefrío

    Sorry, I cannot offer clarification about Taoism. For my clarification, how the Talmud enters into this? It is the Jerusalem Talmud or the Babli (Iraqi) Talmud? How are China and Russia – both in the Northern high latitudes – in the Global South?

  60. anonymous[654] • Disclaimer says:
    @Passer by

    The NWOrder, post WW II post Pax Americana, is taking shape (with USA cooperation). Chinas surge was NOT possible without USA corporate investments, so CHINA is now the main HEGEmont. Meanwhile USA borders are being overrun, lockdowns, electoral fraud, white genocide, economic collapse…

  61. @anon

    When Iran sent oil to Hezbollah in Lebanon against US sanctions, Nasarullah issued a warning to US and Israel against attacks, I commented that they would let the tankers through.
    The tide turned the day Iran showed its missile accuracy by attacking the American base. Prior to that the Americans had thought that the multi-million dollar drone brought down by the Iranians was a fluke.
    Iran is no threat to America, and we all know this but this equation has changed with precision guided missiles. Now Iran is a deadly threat to the minuscule country of Israel.
    As for Israel’s nukes, they can turn Iran into a wasteland but they will never survive as a country after incinerating the Persians . The Israelis that survive will be the wandering Jews. We will then see another thousands years of moaning and crying by these survivors

  62. The US response to the EurAsian alliance is to embed US military advisors in as many countries as they can.

    Anyone trying to leave the US empire will find themselves facing a domestic security and economic crisis, followed by scorched earth if they resist (sovereign wealth held in US banks will be stolen).

    In the new scramble for the global south, the shrinking US empire will double down on keeping SOC out of the Mediterranean basin, and staking its claim to Venezuela’s plentiful energy.

  63. @Realist

    Deep State? This problem can be laid at the feet of the Brits who continue to control the US via the Pilgrim Society, the Senior Executive Service and Rhodes Scholars that have penetrated the government.

    Remember, Chief Justice Roberts is a Knight of Malta, Henry Kissinger is a British knight and longtime Pilgrims Society officer as was Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger, Alexander Haig, Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker, CIA George Tenet and Mike Pompeo.

    Rhodes Scholars? Bill Clinton, Susan Rice, Byron White, James Woolsey, Strobe Talbot, Richard Haas, Ash Carter, Bruce Reed, George Stephanopoulos, Corey Booker, Jake Sullivan

    These people work the other side of the street.

    • LOL: John Regan
  64. @Ukraine Tiger

    I think in the next few months you will read that the Taliban have destroyed all poppy fields. I’m no fan of the Taliban but they too have an ideology and opium is considered haram (forbidden) by them.

  65. Ohio Guy says:
    @RobinG

    I’m going to cash in my accts before cash is worthless, turn most of it into something tangible, work for myself on my schedule, and just basically live what life I have left on my own terms. And most importantly, avoid as much taxation as possible. I’m debt free (one of the few) who can afford to journey into a different reality for me and those I care about. I hope that answers your question and I wish you well.

  66. @Passer by

    To tell tue truth as equally big as the Afhhanistan issue is that the SCO countries stated they will move toward more trade in local currencies. I wouldnt be surprised if the New Development Bank from BRICS gets involved (the UAE just became a member). It gives loans to BRICS countries in local currencies. If the whole bloc starts using more local currency in trade as well – then NATO loses a lot of its leverage.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  67. The Chinese workforce peaked in 2011 and is shrinking fast. China has to grow productivity considerably just to stand still. Xi is heading in the opposite direction in his bid to restore communism. The world should be worrying about China’s weakness not its strength.

  68. Realist says:
    @RoatanBill

    Excellent analysis and very well written.

    Thank you.

  69. Mefobills says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    The SCO countries do not have their banking controlled from London. Go back and reread the article.

    Atlantacism is the enemy, and that especially means, City of London.

    • Agree: Rubicon
  70. ThenAgain says:

    Big step forward for the world! But where the EU in this?

  71. Seraphim says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Morrison is ”that fella downunder” who is licking the ‘big fella’. In Aussie slang ‘big fella’ has a precise meaning.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  72. @Rich

    So wait… Whites never tortured? Whites never bludgeoned anyone to death? What about all the white men who were having lots of sex with savage women? what does that make them?? You do realize that’s what resulted in Puerto Ricans and the like – right?

    • LOL: Rich
  73. Rubicon says:

    We always appreciate Pepe Escobar’s latest articles.

    But we are unable to find any 1st class reporters who can explain these ties between China and the US:

    1. Chinese & American doctors have worked together on nano-technology. A leading US researcher, Charles Leiber has been working a long time with China in developing this technology that seems to focus on social control, via the technology.

    2. Someone needs to explain, why China, of all countries has accepted Black Rock (+Vanguard, the largest hedge fund in the world) into parts of the Chinese economy. This is an insidious, grotesque corporation owns most all US pension/retirement funds, and an assembly of other holdings. The CEO: Larry Fink. A Jew.

    3. In the US, we hear that China uses social cards as a means of controlling its population. Is that true?

    Anybody?

    • Replies: @RichardDuck
  74. Adûnâi says: • Website
    @Passer by

    This news silence is but a sign of a geographical difference in culture. A second iron curtain. Does anyone remember the attempted coup d’état in Belarus on 2021-04-17? It doesn’t even have a Wikipedia article! Not a blip on the radar! Here’s my struggle to include it on the Russian Wikipedia’s News page – shot down by the Western spies. Knowing Russian and listening to Jew Soloviev’s talk show feels like living a double life.
    https://archive.vn/DqgQQ

  75. @Smith

    I believe Mongolia is an “observer” – which is what Iran was prior to acceptance.

  76. @anon

    Zionazistan is obsessed with Iran because their religion is hatred. If not Iran, it would be the Palestinians, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jeremy Corbyn, ‘antisemites’, ‘self-hating Jews’, secular Jews, the Big Hats or the Easter Island hats, or….you get the picture. A cancer upon humanity, bent, as ever, on self-destruction.

  77. @Seraphim

    ‘Old fella’ is more common, colloquially. Big fella is self-delusion.

  78. @Philip Owen

    Idiot comment. China is leading the world in automation, computerisation, robotisation, AI etc. Their work-force will, in future, enjoy much more leisure time, greater equality, common wealth and ecological restoration, while the dystopias full of Philip Owens fall into ever greater inequality and social discord.

    • Replies: @DrWatson
  79. @Jiminy

    Shame there’s nobody with vision there to develop a bri of their own from America all the way down to Argentina.

    What do you think the American Empire has been doing in Central and South America since the 50’s….they have been trying to build just that. The reason it has not worked is because the American version requires ALL countries be subservient. No country can have Autonomy or Sovereignty. In other words, Washington and Wall Street decide what is best for each country. Are you really surprised this can run into roadblocks?

    The Chinese BRI encourages each country to have Autonomy and Sovereignty. There is no interference from Beijing what so ever. All deals are based on win/win otherwise there is no deal. No military or economic coercion is ever required. Stark difference from the US model.

  80. Ha! Their puny alliances are no match for the 100,000 Haitian doctors and scientists we imported! Globohomo Ho!

  81. @Bombercommand

    But the alternative is democracy, or say Ezra Pound said, rule by jews.

    Speaking of which, where is the Iron Dome money, goy? You still owe them a war with Iran.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  82. @Ross23

    What is happening is that now – India’s old good friend Russia is starting to deal more and more with Pakistan – through the SCO. A lot of that is because India is becoming more friendly with the US. Russia is losing some of it’s trust in India.

  83. d dan says:
    @Philip Owen

    “The world should be worrying about China’s weakness not its strength.”

    i.e. “The Coming Collapse of China”, version 385.

    • LOL: dogbumbreath, vox4non
    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  84. @Rahan

    “Ping!” “You are absolutely right, Rahan, and I agree with everything you said.”

  85. antibeast says:
    @Philip Owen

    Why should stupid gringos like you worry about the alleged ‘weakness’ of China? You should worry more about your Banana Republic of the USA rather than a foreign country with an alien culture that you don’t understand. What a pathetic loser.

  86. Biff says:
    @Rich

    The reason Indians might be called savages is the way they tortured captives. Cutting off ears, noses, pieces of flesh. One trick was to cut open the abdomen and tie the intestines to a tree. The squaws liked to castrate living captives, too, as well as stabbing and beating until dying captives finally gave up the ghost. Yes, savages.

    The trick that is used over and over(a 5000 year tradition) is to accuse your enemies of what you yourself are guilty of.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Wielgus
  87. Agent76 says:

    Sep 23, 2021 Most People Don’t Understand Who ‘THEY’ Really Are | DAVID ICKE 2021 (NEW)

  88. @anon

    Regarding Iran… Well Iran and Pakistan didn’t get along in the past – so India was amicable with Iran… A lot of that has to do with Pakistan having been religiously aligned (and some would say subservient) to Saudi Arabia. That calculus changed a lot after 9/11. Saudi Arabia has drawn closer to India and in turn Pakistan has engaged with Iran. The US is the reason for both.
    Recall the US gave India a pass regarding the Chahabar Port in Iran. Well the first problem is that India felt they needed acceptance from the US. Then when the US used unilateral sanctions – India stopped buying oil and doing serious business with Iran. Iran did not appreciate that one bit.
    Others have taken notice… Notice as Mr Escobar reported – which is easily verifiable – it was Iran – Pakistan – China – Russia meeting to discuss Afghanistan. India was frozen out. I really don’t understand why they have given up their autonomy

  89. @Rubicon

    I feel many Westeners like the culture and the civilization of China in daily life. Others who worked in China don’t. I liked it. The Chinese culture is different from ours since it gives more importance to social values compared to the more individualistic Anglo-Saxon culture. This is a matter of shades since there are many common points between us. Chinese individuals are quite open. The best thing is to forget about politics but that means to stop watching the political news! I try to stick to the facts and not pay too much attention to rhetorics and to the political games although the politicians do everything they can to get the attention on themselves. Unfortunately the MSM seem to have a very narrow view of the human life on the planet. The best thing is to take some time learning foreign languages and to travel the small roads.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  90. @dogbumbreath

    You’re right. It’s “America’s Dumbest Criminals” all over again. Some drunk guy kicking the liquor store door, disappears for a minute, then throws a chair at the window, disappears for a few minutes, then falls through the ceiling into the store. Grabs a bottle of whisky just as the police roll up.

    Meanwhile “America” blunders into Iraq, Laos, Korea, Panama, Bolivia, Libya, Pakistan, Ukraine, Syria, Sudan and spends trillions propping up the evil slouching toward Bethlehem, and killing millions of beautiful human lives.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  91. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Does that include the 89 members of Congress with dual Israeli citizenship?

  92. Rich says:
    @Biff

    You’re a tiresome boor in these comment sections. Anti-American, anti-White, anti-Christian, why do you think anything you write would be taken seriously? The tortures used by American Indians, the murders and rapes of settlers, their viciousness towards enemies, White or other Indians, is well documented. Ask the Algonquins how nice the Iroquois were, ask the Kiowa about the Osage or the Sioux, ask the Pawnee about the Sioux. Or don’t.

  93. @Rahan

    Exactly.

    Modi is currently busy ass-kissing deep state lackeys and puppets in DC.

    And only a few months ago, Imran Khan was campaigning in front of NWO-WEF’s patented slogan – “Build back better”.

    If China and Russia are relying on such Zio-Anglo stooges for a better future, not much to look forward to!

  94. @showmethereal

    “I really don’t understand why they have given up their autonomy”

    India never had autonomy. Has always been a Zio-Anglo colony.

  95. DrWatson says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Completely agree. What is more, Chinese companies are now investing and building plants in Central- and Eastern European countries. Their main partner here is Hungary: https://www.hepaoffice.gr/en/chinese-companies-gain-opportunities-hungary/

  96. @Ross23

    Ha, ha! The West has trouble building up itself, let alone India, wracked by ecological collapse, the caste madness, Hindutva fascism and mass poverty and want. India could be built up by China, but India’s ‘elites’ are so fifth-rate and blinded by envy of China that they have chosen to bind themselves to the cadavers of the West.

  97. @RichardDuck

    Collectivism values ALL individuals, past and future included. Western individualists either fear and hates others, or sees them as prey, or objects to be exploited for the great individual’s benefit. Western individualism is anti-human, and dies with each individual.

  98. @dogbumbreath

    The EXACT opposite of Yankee ‘Full Spectrum’ Domination.

  99. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    they say NOTHING about gay sex IRAN hate woman bomb them

  100. Anonymous[168] • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Owen

    There is still an *enormous* reservoir of under productive labor engaged in Chinese agriculture which is ready to transfer to higher productive work in industry.

    By contrast, the west is busily engaged in shutting down productive industry and importing the third world – by the millions – to claim welfare, deliver fast food, wipe floors, wipe arses etc.

  101. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Sounds like a fitting end for our rulers.

  102. @The_MasterWang

    Obviously I hit a nerve. You know what I’m talking about. Your insect slave society is like a cauldron full of angry crabs. Your women are miserable, and you don’t even notice. There will never be a war with Iran, they would shut down the Strait Of Hormuz, and that’s very bad for our allies Japan and Europe. We have our own oil, we don’t care, but we care about our allies, we love Japanese culture and European culture, hell we love Chinese culture too, so relax.. You don’t want a war with Iran, Chinaman, you would be fucked like Japan and Europe. We like the situation just as it is. Iran is being played, keeps the Ayrabz in line. In your arrogance, Chinaman, you will never understand the Western Mind, stick to running your sleazy scams.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
    , @denk
    , @Samoo
  103. @Dystopian

    The next time you do business with the Chinese try this experiment:

    Relate to them as you would to a friend, rather as the party on the opposite end of a contract document. Use words such as honour, trust, humanity etc. If you can buy a gift for their children or wives it will get you far. It not need to be a big item. It is the gesture that will endear you as a friend. Never give a knife, scissors or clock/watch….they can be taboo depending on how superstitious they are especially if they are Cantonese/Hongkonger.

    Whatever you do, do not threaten especially with legal remedies, damages etc etc. Do not boast or belittle. Americans do not understand how they can come across to Asians as arrogant, extremely pushy and full of themselves. It is not good or bad, it is just a cultural difference.

    Remember that the Chinese come from a totally different civilisation that sees Western, especially US style business as very litigious and contractually mercenary. They react to what they perceive as “being screwed with onerous contractual details” by asymmetrical moves of their own.

    The best thing you can do is become a friend of your Chinese partner. It will open doors for you. This is the real meaning of “guanxi”. It is a network of “reliable and trustworthy partners”, not the shadowy half legal web that Westerners make it out to be.

  104. Wielgus says:
    @Biff

    It somewhat resembles hanging, drawing and quartering, law of the land in England for centuries in cases of treason, but leaving out the hanging bit.

  105. @Bombercommand

    The scary part is I think you believe what you wrote. Ahhh the so called masters of the universe think they are playing Iran. Please tell us wise sage…. Has pulling out of the JCPOA worked? Do you have any clue what Iran joining the SCO means????

    Japan is not a US ally – it is a US vassal. It is to be used as long as it is useful and then tossed away. Japan is still so devastated from the two atom bombs it still cant stand on its feet. At least France recalled its ambassadors after it was openly stabbed in the back by 2 of the 5 eyes in the recent submarine deal. Japan took the Plaza Accord and numerous other stabs in the back woth a “yes sensei” and a bow.

    And as to caring about European emergy supplies – tell me how the Nord Stream 2 is going.

    Last but not least – it is not about the oil but the money that backs the oil. How long will the Saudis keep holding on to the US dollar since you are so wise….? Do you understand the implications of the SCO and EAEU beginning to trade in local currencies?? First the US military was removed and slowly the US dollar. Well it would be good for the average US citizens who prefer to actually improve their own lives… But it will be bad for those such as yourself who believe American exceptionalism and that the US should tell the world how to live.

    Btw – how is the shale industry going? What are the 30 year prospects?

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  106. Bro43rd says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Very trollish of you, typical statist. Can’t refute OBF so just resort to ad hominem.

  107. Smith says:
    @lizzie dw

    Hopefully Mongolia can join soon. Kinda weird it’s left out.

  108. antibeast says:
    @Ross23

    India has bigger problems than China. Here’s a video showing how the rich and powerful Indian elites were busy chartering private jets to flee India while foreign countries donated medical supplies to Indians suffering from the surge in the Covid-19 pandemic:

    If the rich and powerful Indian elites don’t care about their own kind, then who’s going to care about the Indian people? And that is the problem with India which is ruled by the rich and powerful Indian elites whose oversized but prickly egos make them sensitive to any perceived slight to their national egos. In order to ingratiate themselves with Western elites, these rich and powerful Indian elites have chosen to align India with the USA Empire to spite China which has only succeeded in alienating Russia.

    India is screwed up.

    • Replies: @anon
  109. @Showmethereal

    Another berserk freakout from an enraged Chinese crab in the Chinese cauldron. Yes, Japan is an ally, they know what we did for them. They attacked us, we defeated them, and what did the American Victors do? Gave Japanese women the right to vote. Agrarian land reform: taking farmland from the mega landowners and giving to the those who worked it so Japanese serfs became freehold farmers. Rebuilding Japanese industry and giving it a giant export market(The USA) so that Japan became one of the most prosperous nations in the world. We did the same for YOU, Chinaman. We lifted you out of the third world and this is how you repay us: “Kowtow!!!Kowtow!!!”. Thumping your chest and crowing how you will plant your Great China foot on America’s subservient neck. Your thin-skinned towering ego is ridiculous.

    • Agree: Grahamsno(G64)
    • Troll: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Anon
  110. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    you appear to be missing the basic point in the mix. there is no need to remind P. Escobar of anything because the west the USA will decline anyway, period! It is written in nature, decline! And whatever its potential the world will face the decline of the US regardless, must unavoidably deal with that decline and survive it, if that is possible!

    Satisfying the US decline? Much more than that it is the only chance humanity has, the goddamn end of the US empire and white power period, The cost is just about immaterial at this point, as long as the US and white power are gone when it is over.

    The US power in the middle of what looks more and more like a global genocide with the Covid vaccines every day. More evidence slips out everyday that corroborates such an impression with facts. So the price is being paid as we speak. And what? it is reported that over 3 billion people in the world have already been vaccinated! So what cost are you implying…?

    The world is paying massively already. Already we can think logically only in terms of rebuilding with the remnant of the 7-8 billion that survive western, US decline. So screw the dying biological-nuclear power. The price is prolly the planet itself so worry, cost, is almost immaterial as I said.

    Time to stand up and let the lunatic empire have it regardless! Time to cut it up, smash it! spit on it.! Let it blow it all up or slither away like it did in Kabul

  111. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    Can’t the Indian people take care of themselves?

    I think they can! I have absolute confidence that they can and will, and that the Indian elites are the problem, the fact that’s in-between the people and taking care of themselves. In fact the Indian people should not wait!

    What the hell are they waiting for!!? The Indian people should rise up now, this minute and take over their country, make short work of the Indian elites: String them up immediately all over the country! wherever they are found at the moment! Then proceed to organize their country in whatever ways they find suitable to meet all their needs, now and into the the furthest distant future!

    And by that example the ordinary people of all countries should rise and make such work of their own elites..as short work as possible! And following that same revolutionary example…take over their country!

    The country is theirs whole and simple! They built it, blood sweat and tears – its theirs! Take it and organize it in the interest of the ordinary population. Find the ways to do so relative to their own culture, natural conditions and social needs and stage of the day

  112. DrWatson says:
    @Rahan

    Ha. You think we in Hungary consider Canada or Germany some ‘elite’ place? Canada is a backwoods society as far as we are concerned with the lumberjacks and all and Germany, we make fun of ’cause of their ridiculous habits, their servility to the ‘higher powers’, their obedience to autocrats and their lack of freedoms. Just recently a leftist (!) survey found that people in Hungary feel 4 times freer than Germans in their own country. Elite places my a\$\$.

    As for the “Science” I am actually a scientist, so am capable of drawing my own conclusions regarding this discipline without the quotation marks (unlike you). I am quite certain Orban and Putin can have access to competent scientists, too. Also, we can choose from 6 different vaccines unlike poor ‘elite’ Germans who had to go all the way to Moscow if they wanted to avoid AstraZeneca or Pfizer. (We went with the Chinese as a colleague recommended it.)

    • Replies: @Rahan
    , @yao
  113. Rahan says:
    @DrWatson

    If you’ll just allow me to first wipe off the globules of Magyar ego off my face…

    But yes, big cudos to Hungary for at least giving a trad vax choice. The only such place in both the EU and the Anglosphere and the overseas vassals in places like East Asia and Araby.

    That is indeed a big plus. Also, I’ve seen travel bloggers commenting how chill life is right now in Hungary, in terms of restrictions. But you guys did indeed do a jab-fest with the kike-spikes, no denying it. You went through with it. You have the trad vax option which is great, but you also went through with the globohomo program.

    And I imagine it took heroic effort on the part of the smart and courageous among you to keep the country from going all in.

  114. DrWatson says:

    So you are Magyar? Yes, we have insufferable egos, true. Look at our Parliament, for a start 🙂

    I am at a loss as to what you refer to by the “globohomo” program. It is stated in the Hungarian constitution that marriage is defined as a union between one man and one woman. (((They))) are giving us a hard time because of that. Orban & Netanyahu are big “friends”, which may be a safeguard against being accused of antisemitism. Also Jews have a better/safer life here than in most other countries (Fidesz also has many of them in its ranks), which is good. However they are not calling all the shots (“jabs” if you like) because Orban is strong and smart.

  115. @Montefrío

    I believe Lao-Tzu might say something like…
    The moment the US embarked on world hegemony (say, aound the time of LBJ), it assured its doom. He who devotes himself to power will die. Who devotes himself to money will go bankrupt. Or as the Lord said, “He who lives by the sword will die by the sword.”

    • LOL: sher singh
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  116. @Frank frank

    Excellent point.

    Although I have been aware of the Jewish Problem for over 7 years, it recently dawned on me that everything they do is astrological and numerical.

    COVID-19 comes during the year of the Great Conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn (December 21, 2020) ushering in the Age of Aquarius aka The Jewish Messianic Age.

    Despite being depicted as a water carrier, Aquarius is an air sign and, no doubt, why we are told COVID-19 is air borne and why we all have to wear a mask to protect ourselves.

    Of course it is all ritualistic. It is a coronation ritual: “corona” comes from the Latin for “crown.” It also has an astronomical meaning: “a white or colored circle or set of concentric circles of light seen around a luminous body, especially around the sun or moon.”

    Among many other things, our Jewish overlords now have the power to literally take our breaths away, or at the very least, to restrict how much air we can breathe.

    COVID-19 comes exactly 19 years after they did 9/11 which, we are told, was caused by… yup, 19 hijackers. They also love the number six and staying (social distancing) 6 feet apart during this “pandemic” is a vital part of the numerical ritual and rite.

    But the main point I want to make is that the word “cancer” was historically a zodiac sign. Its first use as a medical term was in the early 1600s.

    cancer (n.)

    Old English cancer “spreading sore, malignant tumor” (also canceradl), from Latin cancer “a crab,” later, “malignant tumor,” from Greek karkinos, which, like the Modern English word, has three meanings: a crab, a tumor, and the zodiac constellation represented by a crab, from PIE *karkro-, reduplicated form of root *kar- “hard.”

    Greek physicians Hippocrates and Galen, among others, noted similarity of crabs to some tumors with swollen veins. The Old English word was displaced by French-influenced doublet canker but was reintroduced in the modern medical sense c. 1600. In reference to the zodiac sign from late Old English; meaning “person born under the zodiac sign of Cancer” is from 1894. The sun being in Cancer at the summer solstice, the constellation had association in Latin writers with the south and with summer heat. Cancer stick “cigarette” is from 1959. [The Jews also ran the cigarette companies.]

    Source: Online Etymology Dictionary

    • Thanks: RedpilledAF
  117. This is good news. Oh how the Zionists are going to seethe now that regional land theft plans are foiled. I hope they don’t try something stupid that will get us all killed. Maybe we should send some nuclear weapons inspectors to Israel just to be safe.

  118. denk says:
    @Bombercommand

    We like those jap

    I bet you do.
    gringo really enjoy forced intrusion on their ‘buddies’, everybody knows that.
    Those jap even shrank their terriroty water to allow gringo nuclear sub smooth passage. [1]
    u couldnt make this shit up boy !
    Whats not to like.
    eheheheh

    [MORE]

    and euros

    Except those Frenchie
    LSD [2]
    Alstom
    Mistral
    We just pull another one while they’r still fuming over that sub scam ,hehehe
    Lockheed’s F-35 topples competition in Swiss fighter contest

    —————————-

    We loathe those jews

    I can see why…
    Arden declare NZ out of bound to FUKUSA nuke sub.
    Wow that lady got cojone

    and those chinks

    yikes those asian jews. [3]

    [1]
    U.S. used secret nuclear pact to pressure Japan to enable U.S. nuclear subs to pass through 5 Japanese straits

    [2]
    https://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/top-killing/

    [3]
    https://www.unz.com/freed/a-military-solution-to-a-commercial-problem/#comment-4918459

    In case the link fails, its comment 271

  119. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bombercommand

    Harris, you’re a crude embarrassment to everyone here engaged in serious discussion.

  120. Samoo says:
    @Bombercommand

    You’re not wrong about the miserable women, but I think maybe you’re projecting your resentment of your Chinese boss here

  121. anonymous[138] • Disclaimer says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    Pakis are an artificial breed…

    Yeah, like that truly matters.

    Take for example a comparison between the Pakis and their neighbours to the East, the majority batshit crazy extremist pagan lowlifes of your dunghole of a nation. Per capita, Pakis appear to be more visually appealing that the dotniggas of your kind.

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  122. anonymous[138] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong

    Western Monotheistic Fundamental…

    Except, for a godless chink (presumably) like you, you wouldn’t know “Monotheistic” if it hit you in the face.

    There is nothing “Monotheistic” in the western spiritual psyche. What they follow is an adaptation of Triple Deities. The same pagan Polytheistic core of Greek mythology and Hindooism. They call it Monotheistic Trinitarianism. If you can’t see the oxymoron in that accursed pagan construct, then you are an idiot, who shouldn’t be commenting on such matters.

    • Replies: @Pharaoh
  123. Pharaoh says: • Website
    @showmethereal

    Saudi Arabia has drawn closer to India and in turn Pakistan has engaged with Iran. The US is the reason for both.

    Actually it is the Great Power rivalry between the US and China that explains these shifting alliances. You can’t leave China out of the equation. China needs it’s old friend Pakistan to be on the same page with its new friend Iran. It is much harder for Pakistan to give up or loosen its close ties with Iran’s enemy Saudi Arabia, than it is for India to give up Iran.

    Notice as Mr Escobar reported – which is easily verifiable – it was Iran – Pakistan – China – Russia meeting to discuss Afghanistan. India was frozen out. I really don’t understand why they have given up their autonomy

    Notice, as all the media is reporting, and Pepe is ignoring, the meeting today in the White House of the Quad alliance: US, India, Japan and Australia.

    Which Quad do you think is stronger? The American Quad or the Chinese Quad?

  124. Pharaoh says: • Website
    @anonymous

    The same pagan Polytheistic core of Greek mythology and Hindooism

    Ignorant bumpkin. Your Allah was a pagan god who had 3 daughters: Al-Lat, Al-Uzzah and Manat. They all lived together in that big black cube in Saudi Arabia.

    Your ‘monotheism’ is the worship of the empty Kaaba, the House of Allah, as your sole idol.

  125. Jon Chance says: • Website

    Is it not utterly pathetic that the human species has achieved less-than-zero successful political evolution during the last 100 years?

    A Gentile World Order

    The Antidote to Global Corporate Socialism….

    Today’s supremacist transnational organizations (the CCP, UN, EU, UK, USK, WZO, etc.) do not serve the interests of national citizens, cultures, or civilizations.

    They must be abolished immediately.

    Should the following cultural regions become self-sufficient and politically autonomous confederations?

    1 – African Confederation
    2 – American Confederation
    3 – Arabian Confederation
    4 – Argentine Confederation
    5 – Australian Confederation
    6 – Brazilian Confederation
    7 – Chinese Confederation
    8 – European Confederation
    9 – Indian Confederation
    10 – Iranian Confederation
    11 – Japanese Confederation
    12 – Korean Confederation
    13 – Mexican Confederation
    14 – Pacific Confederation
    15 – Pakistani Confederation
    16 – Russian Confederation
    17 – Thai Confederation

    The Breakdown of Nations

    Leopold Kohr

    In The Breakdown of Nations, Leopold Kohr shows that, throughout history, people living in small nation-states are happier, more peaceful, more creative, and more prosperous.

    Virtually all our political and social problems would be greatly diminished if the world’s major political unions were to dissolve back into the small nation-states from which they sprang.

    Rather than making ever-larger entangling alliances, in the mistaken belief this will bring peace and security, we should minimize the aggregation of power by returning to a patchwork of small and independent nation-states and confederations where leaders are accessible to and responsive to the citizens.

    https://ch.ch

  126. @Pharaoh

    “Actually it is the Great Power rivalry between the US and China that explains these shifting alliances.”

    No – that has more to do with issues related to 9/11 and also the shifting issues regarding Israel. At US direction – Saudi Arabia and UAE have moved toward Israel in the past few decades in order to get them to jointly fight against Iran’s influence. The Muslim world is mainly aligned by Sunni/Shia fault lines. Iran’s influence is mainly Iraq and Lebanon and now Syria and Yemen. Sunni nations mainly align with Saudi Arabia – which is the motherland of the religion. Though Egypt and Turkey feel they are too big to be subservient to Arab will and want to decide their own future and put their own stamp on the Muslim world. Also in the case of Turkey and now Pakistan and Afghanistan – because they are neighbors of Iran – they have now decided to engage Iran at varying levels. None of that has anything to do with China. Egypt – Saudi Arabia – UAE all do large business with China and China helps them in scientific areas. They know that China will not sacrifice their relationship with Iran for them. The reverse is also true… Iran knows China sells drones to Saudis and helps them with nuclear energy. They know China is not ideological and won’t get involved in the 3rd party dispute.

    Though now that the US is pulling back from the mideast – the Saudis have now tried to ease tensions with Iran again. Why?? Yemen – using Iranian training and weapons have dealt devastating blows to Saudi oil infrastructure. Saudis realize the US air defense systems couldn’t help them. The only thing that has to do with China is that the US is diverting resources there to go try to contain China. That is very indirect… It has nothing to do with China trying to assert it’s will there.

    “Which Quad do you think is stronger? The American Quad or the Chinese Quad?”

    Again your reasoning is off. China has no Quad. China doesn’t dictate to Russia nor Iran nor Pakistan. The US does dictate to Japan and Australia – and they are hoping India soon. Whether that happens or not is another story.

    But I will play your game about which is stronger. First the SCO is not an alliance – because as you see – India is also in the SCO – though it was excluded from that Afghan group – mainly because it is a member of the “American Quad” and the point of the SCO is all the neighbors wanting in addition to contain jihadists – is to keep US hegemony out of Central Asia..
    So as to your game – how do we compare? Well it depends on the category.

    – Military? Well wars are not fought on paper – but I don’t see how you could say that on paper Russia/China – Pakistan – Iran is not more powerful than US – Japan – India – Australia. In both nuclear and conventional – on paper the Russia/China team has more power. It is fairly close since by most analysts they would all be in the top 12 or so nations – except Australia – which is considerably weaker than everyone else – on paper. But the top 3 nations – US/Russia/China are on another sphere from everyone else.

    – Industry? Well China by itself has larger industrial capacity than the combined US Quad… So that ends that contest quickly.

    -Technologically and Scientifically? That’s a very close one. Well if you just talk engineers then the SCO Quad wins. Russia is on the same level as the US while China has more engineers than India and Japan combined. Iran and Pakistan have far more engineering prowess than Australia. But if you include all forms of science and include IT – the competition would be much closer. That would be tough call.

    -Economically? That’s the only one the US Quad wins outright. Though it is closer than you think.
    For instance if you measure the economies by purchase power parity – then China and Russia combined is larger than the US and Japan combined. Australia is a tiny bit bigger than either Iran or Pakistan… But India lifts the US Quad into the win.
    But economics is the point of the SCO wanting to trade in local currency and break US hegemony. That’s also why Iran and Pakistan have been making friends lately. Close neighbors working together economically benefits both.

  127. @anonymous

    Dotniggas (Indians) or slaves of sandniggas (Pakis) are all the same in terms of looks… only the White race is attractive. Don’t pat yourself on the backside too much lest some Afghans gets interested in it.

    P. S. Of course, if you are a chinaman disguised then be assured that you’re just as ugly as the other two.

  128. antibeast says:
    @Pharaoh

    Actually it is the Great Power rivalry between the US and China that explains these shifting alliances. You can’t leave China out of the equation.

    No, you’re wrong. Unlike the USA, China is politically neutral in the the geopolitics of the Middle East. The Chinese don’t take sides and want to do business with everybody there — Israelis, Saudis, Iranians — EVERYBODY! The shifting alliances in the Middle East has to do with the loss of confidence in the USA: Saudi Arabia and Turkey want to hedge their bets by buying the S-400 from Russia, for example.

    Which Quad do you think is stronger? The American Quad or the Chinese Quad?

    The QUAD has turned into yet another talking shop now that the USA has dumped Japan and Australia in favor of the AUKUS deal with the UK and Australia. The Biden Administration made the fatal mistake of selling nuclear submarines to Australia which ain’t goin’ to impress Asian countries like Indonesia. The last thing the USA wants to do is to antagonize yet another Muslim country — Indonesia — which is the largest Muslim country in the world, as their fellow Muslim countries from Pakistan and Iran to Saudi Arabia and Turkey ain’t goin’ to side with Australia as the AUKUS deal pits the USA, UK and Australia against Islam.

    The AUKUS deal ranks as one of the dumbest moves ever made by the Aussies. The only thing Australia got from the AUKUS deal is a debt trap worth hundreds of billions of dollars as US defense contractors milk the Aussies for whatever they’re worth.

  129. yao says:
    @DrWatson

    Jo napot
    If I go to Budapest again I wish I can have a beer with you.

    I am a Chinese studied in Hungary and I think Orban has been doing well for Hungary.

  130. Smith says:

    No article on the recent Meng Wengzhou release?
    Rather big news concerning US-China diplomacy.

  131. @SeekerofthePresence

    “‘US didn’t want to face the truth that it’s no longer the global hegemon,’ Russian spy chief tells RT after Afghanistan debacle.”

    https://www.rt.com/russia/535799-russia-spy-chief-afghanistan/

  132. Everything in these SCO countries is shoddy and second rate. Their only rise to power is due to the suicide of the West. What is happening is less of an endorsement of their greatness, than a result of our decline.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  133. denk says:

    Ever heard of a mob boss demanding ransom in the open ?

    Well the potus had no qualm doing just that…

    If I think it’s good for what will certainly be the largest trade deal ever made – which is a very important thing – what’s good for national security – I would certainly intervene if I thought it was necessary

    .

    Such brazenness from the ‘rule based’ regime,. !

    I heard the rubes are already missing their great white hope !

    Dunno whether to laugh or cry….

    hehehhehe

    https://www.660citynews.com/2020/07/24/trump-used-huawei-cfo-as-bargaining-chip-in-trade-fight-with-china-documents

  134. @Sebastian Hawks

    Why are racists always so bloody stupid and ignorant?

  135. @antibeast

    Anti, Austfailia’s ‘leadership’ in politics, the MSM and business consists of dullards, ignoramuses, bigots, a growing cadre of religious nutters (including the PM, Morrison, the bunyip Bolsonaro)many of which are former military thugs and sundry other human detritus. One ABSOLUTE prerequisite for membership is total, groveling, servitude to the USA and Israel, to slightly lesser extent. We have committed national seppuku by picking a fight with China, which NEVER did us any harm, but siphoned fifty billion per annum in income to us. Ungrateful, deluded, arrogant, racists, we await our fate.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  136. @Pharaoh

    The USA, crumbling into its on shite. Austfailia, the pip-squeak ‘Deputy Sheriff’, Japan, a one-party sham ‘democracy’ run by the spawn of WW2 Imperial fascists, and India, a Hindutva fascist regime with no good prospects, but buckets of the bitter gall of envy at China’s rise. It is to laugh. The ‘Quad-riplegics’.

    • LOL: littlereddot
  137. antibeast says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Australia is a very rich country, well-endowed with its natural resources which has given it a GDP per capita of \$50K. In addition, Australia has a pretty good educational and tourism sectors which attract students and tourists from all over Asia, including China. By aligning with the US Empire, Australia has only succeeded in alienating its Asian neighbors which includes the largest Muslim country in the world, Indonesia.

    The so-called ‘AUKUS’ deal now looks like it was hastily cobbled up by the Biden Administration in order to appease the US Deep State and the US military-industrial complex who were unhappy with Biden’s decision to withdraw US troops from and end the War in Afghanistan. That’s why the Biden Administration secretly negotiated this ‘AUKUS’ deal with Australia without consulting QUAD partners — India and Japan — while backstabbing France in the process. Naked greed was behind this secret deal which was made to sound more legit by roping in the UK.

    Australia just signed its own debt sentence to the US military-industrial complex which has a pretty good track record of ripping off the US government. Now it’s Australia’s turn to be saddled with US debt to be paid for by Australia’s natural wealth.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  138. @antibeast

    Australia is a very rich country, well-endowed with its natural resources which has given it a GDP per capita of \$50K.

    Those natural resources don’t even belong to “the poor white trash of Asia”.

    But the consequences will be great. Australia will be needlessly poorer, more isolated from our region, and more dependent on the uncertain protection of faraway Five Eyes friends. Without a dialogue with China, our necessary engagement with our region will be handicapped. Lee Kuan Yew’s friendly warning – ‘be careful or you will be the poor white trash of Asia’ – comes back now to haunt us.

    https://johnmenadue.com/how-australia-sabotaged-its-own-interests-in-relations-with-china/

  139. Anonymous[173] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    Yep.

    And the Aussies forget the damned obvious – it’s only Chinese demand that has given them their (inflated) excellent living standards.
    How short are Australian memories! Before China really took off, Australian living standards were stagnant and decline and really were threatening a middle income status for the nation.

    UK industrial demand has done damn all for Oz these last 50 years, if they still relied on the UK, they’d be no richer than Argentina.
    ….. And US industrial demand has done fuck all for them now, in the past and in the future.

  140. Pharaoh says: • Website
    @Deep Thought

    Lee Kuan Yew’s friendly warning – ‘be careful or you will be the poor white trash of Asia’ – comes back now to haunt us.

    I didn’t believe that Lee Kuan Yew actually said that, so I googled it. Lo and behold:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-24/lee-kuan-yew-warned-australia-could-be-the-white-trash-of-asia/6342578

    A leader well known for his bluntness, Singapore’s founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew issued a warning in 1980 that Australia was in danger of becoming the “white trash” of Asia.

  141. Pharaoh says: • Website
    @antibeast

    The Biden Administration made the fatal mistake of selling nuclear submarines to Australia which ain’t goin’ to impress Asian countries like Indonesia. The last thing the USA wants to do is to antagonize yet another Muslim country — Indonesia — which is the largest Muslim country in the world, as their fellow Muslim countries from Pakistan and Iran to Saudi Arabia and Turkey ain’t goin’ to side with Australia as the AUKUS deal pits the USA, UK and Australia against Islam.

    Indonesia etc are not competitive threats to the US Navy’s domination of the Indian and Pacific Oceans for the foreseeable future. Those submarines are meant to be used against China. You knew that.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  142. Who did empire better than the white man? Mongols? Arabs? Japanese? Ottomans? Incas? Aztecs? Malis? The white man ended starvation outside the People’s Peace-Loving Democratic Republic of North Korea for the first time in human history.

    • Replies: @Smith
  143. antibeast says:
    @Pharaoh

    Your logic is flawed: the US Navy had long deployed nuclear submarines — both SSBNs and SSNs — which can patrol both the Pacific and Indian Oceans alongside CBGs for decades. So why should the USA now want Australia to have nuclear submarines? Answer: Indonesia, an archipelagic country consisting of 14,000 islands, located right next door to Australia.

    Don’t take my word for it: Indonesia as well as Malaysia are now sounding the alarm against the prospect of having Australia armed with nuclear submarines which is going to affect the balance of power in Southeast Asia. The balance of power in East Asia, ironically, won’t be affected that much as Australia is simply too far from the Asian mainland where land-based armies rule the roost, not sea-based navies.

    The Yanks probably knew this before they made this decision for the Aussies to become their deputy sheriff in Asia, right after they withdrew their US troops from Afghanistan. The Yanks are probably hedging their bets by using Australia as their next US military base in Asia, knowing fully well that they could not rely on the yellow Japs or brown Indians to be their military allies against China/Russia/North Korea/Iran, giving the QUAD short shrift. The Yanks simply feel more kinship with their Anglo-Saxon cousins in Australia, who share ties of ‘flesh-and-blood’ with each other rather than an alliance of convenience with their QUAD partners in Asia.

    • Replies: @littlereddot
  144. Pharaoh says: • Website

    So why should the USA now want Australia to have nuclear submarines? Answer: Indonesia

    The answer is: China. Anglosphere vs China is the rivalry America, as leader of the Anglosphere, is clearly focusing on. It is absurd to think Australia needs 8 of the most advanced nuclear attack submarines for any other reason.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  145. @antibeast

    As Pepe says, the Yanks are circling their wagons in desperation. The “barbarians” are approaching, and they are retreating to their second line of defence. They have decided that all their “allies” are less than reliable and and have chosen their core defensible ground, that of the Anglophone tribe.

    It is actually quite funny to imagine how the non-core “allies” must be taking it now. The French of course are giving us great entertainment with their current tantrums. The Japs must be calculating if they should start warming up to Beijing.

    I speculate this retreat to the core was also what Brexit was all about. The Yanks knew that they could not control Europe forever and sought to extract their favourite poodle before Brussels had the strength to cast off its vassalage.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  146. Hopefully SCO will do as the international bankers have done in the last 50 years but in the opposite direction and so push their patriarchal world view on companies and countries in the West and make it clear to them that any that do not comply with the patriarchy will be left out in the cold to suck at the international banker’s ever-shrinking cancerous teat.

  147. antibeast says:
    @Pharaoh

    China does not consider the Banana Republic of the USA as a ‘rival’ but a mere ‘market’ for its manufactured products. And no, China does not consider Australia its ‘rival’ either but as a source of raw materials like iron ore. Ditto for the UK which China views as a potential ‘partner’ for its financial expertise. Japan and South Korea are the real ‘rivals’ of China because they’re all high-tech powerhouses in East Asia. For example, all three East Asian nations are currently exporting their high-speed rail technology all over the world while developing their own maglev technology as well. The USA does not have high-speed rail technology today and most likely never will. No, the USA is not a ‘rival’ to China, never was and never will be.

  148. antibeast says:
    @littlereddot

    The USA is nothing more than an over-rated Banana Republic which will likely suffer from an economic depression caused by the financial implosion of its USD debt bomb. The Yanks probably wanted to prepare for the eventual fall of their Empire by making sure that they can count on their Anglo-Saxon cousins, linked by ‘flesh and blood’, as their allies rather than rely on haughty Europeans or inscrutable Asians, linked only by alliances of convenience. That explains why the Yanks supported BREXIT which extricated the UK from the EU while creating AUKUS to cut off France from Australia.

    • Replies: @littlereddot
  149. Anonymous[561] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m fairly convinced that the so called ‘liberals’ at The Economist the WSJ, the FT, the NYT, BBC etc etc – the people who keep pumping out, with regular monotony, complete guff that ‘China is finished’, ‘China is doomed’ every fortnight,(for the last 30 years, at the very least, running), are doing so for profoundly racist, in the strictest sense of the word, subconscious if not conscious reason.
    Despite the fact, to a person, are the first to scream out pound their anti racist anti Trump etc credentials, and to shit on other whites at the first possible opportunity, there is something about yellow skinned people running the world which makes them viscerally and instinctively uneasy.
    Surely, nothing else can account for the deep deep depths of their fear and hatred.

  150. @onebornfree

    USA spent 2 tirllion and achieved Nothing except death and destruction—the appendagages of USA democracy—drones and denial—–the pschopaths should all be in The Hague facing War Crimes –starting with Rumsfeld —

  151. @antibeast

    Yes, the expression of Blood is Thicker than Water comes to mind.

    Apparently it was coined by a US Navy captain who answered thus when newspaper reporters asked him why he intervened on the behalf of some British warships when they were being attacked by the Qing navy during one of the Opium Wars.

    The Anglophones may have split up into different countries on different stolen continents, but their blood is still really much thicker than water 150 years later.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  152. antibeast says:
    @littlereddot

    Yes, the expression of Blood is Thicker than Water comes to mind.

    LOL! Tell that to the Indians who are now apopletic after getting shafted by the Yanks:

    “There’s Been a Strategic Ambush of the Quad by AUKUS, Says Former Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao”, the title of the video says it all.

    • LOL: littlereddot
  153. I keep marveling at the effectiveness of exporting “democracy” and the improved quality of life for the recipients of the progressive morality. It is hugely difficult to understand why the countries like China, Russia and lesser notables have not seen the obvious benefit progressive democracy bestows and continue along their crass, dare I say, capitalist ways of promoting money making trade? I hope we in the U.S. continue to reject practical action in favor of idealistic notions and mind numbing verbiage. We are probably better employees than we are employers.

  154. L to R

    1 Shavkat Mirziyoyev Uzbekistan
    2 Emomali Rahmon Tajikistan
    3 Imran Khan Pakistan
    4 Xi Jinping China
    5 Ebrahim Raisi Iran
    6 Vladimir Putin Russia
    7 Narendra Modi India
    8 Kassym-Jomart Tokayev Khazakstan
    9 Sadyr Japarov Kyrgyzstan

  155. @d dan

    Version 1.0 in my case. Even after 2011’s speech by Xi calling for a shift to quality rather than quantity, I was still a China bull. Now he is addressing political rather than economic concerns as his priority.

    • Replies: @littlereddot
  156. @Philip Owen

    I have a contrary view.

    For me, Xi’s recent moves makes me more confident for the future of the country. It shows he is willing to make painful measures to keep the country from being taken over by a oligarchy like the West. He has also shown he understands the difference between rent seeking economics and real economic development.

    But there is really no point speculating about the economic effects of Xi’s moves for the next five to ten years. Whether or not he has done the right thing will only show up in the long term.

    Fortunately for China, they do not have to make policy based on a 4 years election cycle and can plan really long term.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  157. @littlereddot

    Western sham ‘democrazies’ plan for the short-term, ie the election cycle, and lie and lie and lie again regarding their true intentions. Western politicians, all owned by the real rulers of society, the rich capitalist parasites, are up-front, but it is ALL mendacity, hate-mongering, fear-mongering, Divide and Rule and sundry other nasstinesses. And the political caste are just about the vilest collection of sub-standard psychopaths that generations of careful selection could produce. They HATE China for the same reason that a vampire hates Holy Water.

    • LOL: littlereddot
    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  158. @antibeast

    Come on-the ruling compradores in India see themselves as ‘honorary Whites’ like the hereditary fascists who rule one-party Japan. They’ll suck it up, rather than co-operate with China. It’s mostly envy-the fools cannot stomach the idea of two great non-Western civilizations, or the fact that the Chinese have so vastly outdone them. Tragic really.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  159. @Deep Thought

    Austfailia had a brief opportunity to be a decent society, but that was ended by the CIA et al in 1975. It’s been all downhill, accelerating, ever since. Two periods of rapid increase in self-harm occurred after 1996, when the racist Howard ascended, and in 2013, when the racist and misogynist Abbott assumed power. Morrison is just the farce’s final act. When in doubt the mugs, well-trained by Murdoch and his minions in greed, fear, envy and spite, always vote for the biggest shit available.

  160. @mulga mumblebrain

    They HATE China for the same reason that a vampire hates Holy Water.

    Yes. This is another way of saying it:

    … It is also consistent with the arguments of the most honest kind of “China hawk,” who argues that the real problem with Beijing is not that it wants to dominate the world, but that it might stop the U.S. from doing so in a unipolar manner.}

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-real-threat-america-ruling-ideology/5733887

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  161. antibeast says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    The right-wing Japs don’t like Whites at all. They may appear polite and bow down their heads to their Yankee Overlords but that’s only because it’s part of Japanese culture. Beneath the smiles, arigatos and harikatos, the Japs view the stupid gringos in their sacred land as an alien presence which defiles their national honor. And national honor is what the right-wing Japs want to reclaim for Japan. Westerners don’t understand the Japanese psyche which is a tortured soul waiting to break free as the right-wing Japs would rather have the Chinese Communists invade Japan tomorrow than continue living out such a wretched existence.

    That’s the reason why 70 percent of US troops are stationed in Okinawa with the rest of the support personnel stationed in Japan. But the Okinawans don’t want the stupid gringos in their island country either as they know they would only be used as guinea pigs by the US military. Neither the Yamatos nor the Okinawans like the US military at all whose presence in Japan had to be supported by the war-criminals at the LDP at the behest of their Yankee Overlords in exchange for the withdrawal of war-crime prosecution.

    The USA-Japan ‘alliance’ is just a marriage of convenience forged at the onset of the Cold War which ended with the collapse of the USSR in 1991. The Japanese know very well that time is on their side. When the time comes, the Japs would want to reclaim their national honor by switching to China’s side.

  162. @Deep Thought

    It’s what Chomsky called the ‘..threat of a good example’. Why did the USA attack and attempt to destroy Cuba, Nicaragua, Chile under Pinochet, Brazil in the 60s, Brazil under the PT etc. Because ANY society that attempts to govern for the many, not the few, as the US oligarchy does, could set a good example that others would want to follow. China is the worst ‘good example’ of all-the greatest economic leap in history, the greatest poverty reduction ever, and international amity, comity and collaboration with other nations, in contrast to US subversion, sabotage, sanctions and aggression, accomplished through its 800 overseas military bases, and control of the IMF, World Bank, WTO, WIPO etc.

    • Agree: Deep Thought
    • Thanks: littlereddot
  163. xcd says:
    @Ohio Guy

    let alone the desire of Asian nations, mother Russia and her Slavik neighbors, Iran, parts of Europe and even Africa

    These are people who think they know Asians after they have observed an East Asian. Who invented the term Asia Pacific to designate everything to their East.

    • Replies: @littlereddot
  164. @xcd

    Now there is an even uglier term….”indo pacific”.

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