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One cannot but feel mildly amused at the theatrical spectacle of the US troop pullout from Afghanistan, its completion day now postponed for maximum PR impact to 9/11, 2021.

Nearly two decades and a staggering US\$2 trillion after this Forever War was launched by a now immensely indebted empire, the debacle can certainly be interpreted as a warped version of Mission Accomplished.

“They make a desert and call it peace,” said Tacitus – but in all of the vastness of the Pentagon there sits not a single flack who could imagine getting away with baldfacedly spinning the Afghan wasteland as peaceful.

Even the UN bureaucratic machinery has not been able to properly account for Afghan civilian deaths; at best they settled for 100,000 in only ten years. Add to that toll countless “collateral” deaths provoked by the massive social and economic consequences of the war.

Training and weaponizing the – largely inefficient – 300,000-plus Afghan Army cost \$87 billion. “Economic aid and reconstruction” cost \$54 billion: literally invisible hospitals and schools dot the Afghan landscape. A local chapter of the “war on drugs” cost \$10 billion – at least with (inverted) tangible results: Afghanistan now generates 80% of the world’s opium.

All these embarrassing facts disappear under the shadow play of 2,500 “official” departing troops. What really matters is who’s staying: by no means just a few out of some 17,000 “contractors,” over 6,000 of whom are American citizens.

“Contractor” is a lovely euphemism for a bunch of mercenaries who, perfectly in tune with a shadow privatization drive, will now mingle with Special Forces teams and covert intel ops to conduct a still lethal variation of hybrid war.

Of course this development won’t replicate those David Bowie-style Golden Years in the immediate post-9/11 era. Ten years ago, following the Obama-Petraeus surge, no fewer than 90,000 contractors were dancing to the Hindu Kush groove, lavishly compensated by the Pentagon and dabbling in everything from construction, transportation and maintenance to “enhanced interrogation services.”

Collectively, this shadow army, a triumph of private enterprise many times cheaper than the state-sponsored model, bagged at least \$104 billion since 2002, and nearly \$9 billion since 2016.

Afghan people inspect at the site where a truck bomb exploded targeting a hotel used by foreign contractors, in Kabul on August 1, 2016. The Taliban used a truck full of explosives to break the wall of the guest house. Photo: AFP / Haroon Sabawoon / Anadolu Agency
Afghan people inspect at the site where a truck bomb exploded targeting a hotel used by foreign contractors, in Kabul on August 1, 2016. The Taliban used a truck full of explosives to break the wall of the guest house. Photo: AFP / Haroon Sabawoon / Anadolu Agency

Now we’re supposed to trust CENTCOM commander General Kenneth McKenzie, who swears that “the U.S. contractors will come out as we come out.” Apparently the Pentagon press secretary was not briefed: “So on the contractors, we don’t know exactly.”

Some contractors are already in trouble, like Fluor Corporation, which is involved in maintenance and camp construction for no fewer than 70 Pentagon forward operating bases in northern Afghanistan. Incidentally, no Pentagon PR is explaining whether these FOBs will completely vanish.

Fluor was benefitting from something called LOGCAP – Logistics Civil Augmentation IV Program – a scheme set by the Pentagon at the start of Obama-Biden 1.0 to “outsource logistical military support.” Its initial five-year deal was worth a cool \$7 billion. Now Fluor is being sued for fraud.

Enhancing stability forever

The current government in Kabul is led by a virtual nonentity, Ashraf Ghani. Like his sartorially glamorous predecessor Hamid Karzai, Ghani is a US creature, lording it over a rambling military force financed by Washington to the tune of \$4 billion a year.

So of course Ghani is entitled to spin a rosy outlook for an Afghan peace process on the pages of Foreign Affairs.

It gets curioser and curioser when we add the incandescent issue that may have provoked the Forever War in the first place: al-Qaeda.

A “former security coordinator for Osama bin Laden” is now peddling the idea that al-Qaeda may be back in the Hindu Kush. Yet, according to Afghan diplomats, there is no evidence that the Taliban will allow old-school al-Qaeda – the Osama/al-Zawahiri incarnation – to thrive again.

That’s despite the fact that Washington, for all practical purposes, has ditched the Doha Agreement signed in February 2020, which stipulated that the troop pullout should have happened this past Saturday, May 1.

Of course, we can always count on the Pentagon to “enhance security and stability” in Afghanistan. In this Pentagon report we learn that “AQIS [al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent] routinely supports and works with low-level Taliban members in its efforts to undermine the Afghan government, and maintains an enduring interest in attacking US forces and Western targets.”

Well, what the Pentagon does not tell us is how old-school al-Qaeda, pre-AQIS, metastasized into a galaxy of “moderate rebels” now ensconced in Idlib, Syria. And how contingents of Salafi-jihadis were able to access mysterious transportation corridors to bolster the ranks of ISIS-Khorasan in Afghanistan.

The CIA heroin ratline

All you need to know, reported on the ground, about the crucial first years of the imperial adventure in Afghanistan is to be found in the Asia Times e-book Forever Wars, part 1.

Two decades later, the politico-intel combo behind Biden is now spinning that the end of this particular Forever War is an imperative, integrated to the latest US National Security Strategy.

Afghan National Army (ANA) soldiers march during a ceremony at a military base in the Guzara district of Herat on May 5, 2021. Photo: AFP / Hoshang Hashimi
Afghan National Army (ANA) soldiers march during a ceremony at a military base in the Guzara district of Herat on May 5, 2021. Photo: AFP / Hoshang Hashimi

Shadow play once again reigns. Withdrawal conditionals include the incompetence and corruption of the Afghan military and security forces; that notorious Taliban-al-Qaeda re-engagement; the fight for women’s rights; and acknowledging the supreme taboo: this ain’t no withdrawal because a substantial Special Forces contingent will stay in place.

In a nutshell: for the US deep state, leaving Afghanistan is anathema.

The real heart of the matter in Afghanistan concerns drugs and geopolitics – and their toxic intersection.

Everyone with transit in the Dubai-Kandahar axis and its ramifications knows that the global-spanned opium and heroin business is a matter very close to the CIA’s heart. Secure air transport is offered by bases in Afghanistan and neighboring Kyrgyzstan.

William Engdahl has offered a concise breakdown of how it works. In the immediate post-9/11 days, in Afghanistan, the main player in the opium trade was none other than Ahmed Wali Karzai, presidential brother and a CIA asset. I interviewed him in Quetta, Balochistan’s capital, in October 2001 (the interview can be found in Forever Wars). He obviously did not talk about opium.


Ahmed Karzai was snuffed out in a Mafia-style hit at home, in Helmand, in 2011. Helmand happens to be Afghanistan’s Opium Central. In 2017, following on previous investigations by Seymour Hersh and Alfred McCoy, among others, I detailed the workings of the CIA heroin ratline in Afghanistan.

New Great Game 3.0 is on

Whatever happens next will involve layers and layers of shadow play. CENTCOM’s McKenzie, at a closed-door hearing at the US House Armed Services Committee, basically said they are still “figuring out” what to do next.

That will certainly involve, in McKenzie’s own assessment, “counter-terrorism operations within the region”; “expeditionary basing” (linguistic diversion to imply there won’t be any permanent bases, at least in thesis); and “assistance” to Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (no details on what this “assistance” will consist of).

Now compare it with the view by major Eurasian powers: Russia, China, Pakistan and Iran, three of them members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), with Iran as an observer and soon full member.

Their number one priority is to prevent any mutating Afghan jihadi virus to contaminate Central Asia. A massive 50,000 troop-strong Russia-Tajikistan military exercise in late April had exactly that in mind.

Ministers of defense of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) met in Dushanbe with the objective of further fortifying the porous Tajik-Afghan border.

And then there’s the Turkmen-Afghan border, from which the opium/heroin trail reaches the Caspian Sea and diversifies via Russia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. Moscow, even more than the CSTO, is particularly worried by this stretch of the trail.

An Afghan farmer harvests opium sap from a poppy field in Dara-l-Nur, District of Nangarhar province, Afghanistan, on May 13, 2020. Photo:AFP / Wali Sabawoon / NurPhoto
An Afghan farmer harvests opium sap from a poppy field in Dara-l-Nur, District of Nangarhar province, Afghanistan, on May 13, 2020. Photo:AFP / Wali Sabawoon / NurPhoto

The Russians are very much aware that even more than different opium/heroin routes springing up, the top danger is a new influx of Salafi-jihadis into the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS).

Even if analyzing it from completely different perspectives, Americans and Russians seem to be equally focused on what Salafi-jihadists – and their handlers – may come up with in post-9/11, 2021 Afghanistan.

So let’s go back to Doha, where something really intriguing is afoot.

On April 30, a so-called extended troika – Russia, the United States, China and Pakistan – issued a joint statement in Doha on their discussions regarding a negotiated settlement in Afghanistan.

The extended troika met with the Kabul government, the Taliban and host Qatar. At least they agreed there should be “no military solution.”

It gets curioser and curioser again: Turkey, backed by Qatar and the UN, is getting ready to host a conference to further bridge the gap between the Kabul government and the Taliban. Realpolitik cynics will have a ball wondering what Erdogan is scheming at.

The extended troika, at least rhetorically, is in favor of an “independent, sovereign, unified, peaceful, democratic, neutral and self-sufficient Afghanistan.” Talk about a lofty undertaking. It remains to be seen how Afghanistan’s “neutrality” can be guaranteed in such a nest of New Great Game serpents.

Beijing and Moscow will be under no illusions that the newly privatized, Special Forces Afghan-American experiment will eschew using Salafi-jihadis, radicalized Uighurs or other instant assets to destabilize what in effect should be the incorporation of Afghanistan to the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (where it’s already an observer) and the larger Eurasia integration project.

An extra-intriguing piece of the puzzle is that a very pragmatic Russia – unlike its historical ally India – is not against including the Taliban in an overall Afghan settlement. New Delhi will have to go along. As for Islamabad, the only thing that matters, as always, is to have a friendly government in Kabul. That good old “strategic depth” obsession.

What the major players – Russia and China – see in the framework of a minimally stabilized Afghanistan is yet one more step to consolidate the evolution of the New Silk Roads in parallel with the Greater Eurasia partnership. That’s exactly the message Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov delivered during his recent visit to Pakistan.

Now compare it with the – never explicit – strategic deep state aim: to keep some sort of military-intel “forward operating base” in the absolutely crucial node between Central and South Asia and close, oh so close, to national security “threats” Russia and China.

The New Great Game 3.0 is just beginning at the graveyard of empires.

(Republished from Asia Times by permission of author or representative)
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: Afghanistan, American Military, China, CIA, Russia 
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  1. The war in Afghanistan has been a resounding success for the MIC and also for the CIA drug cartel. They have spent over twenty years gorging themselves at the Afghan war trough.

  2. SafeNow says:

    Excellent essay — it lays-out for me the pieces of a very complicated puzzle, to use your apt word. Thank you.

    How many refugees will now have to be admitted to the US, because they worked with the US, and now might suffer reprisals? Of course, the precedent is Vietnam. One possible difference is that, here in S. Cal, a synonym for “descendant of Vietnamese refugees” is “dentist” or “pharmacist.”

    • Replies: @showmethereal
    , @Pindos
  3. “The New Great Game 3.0” => Dope Inc. new edition (2021!)

    In the 80s, Reagan was using a convoluted way to finance the Contras in Nicaragua. Oliver North and C. Powell turned out to be the game players. I bet they didn’t know how to use the Dope Inc’s protocols to do the same thing and the CIA since 2001 has adopted the Dope Inc’s protocols to fund its operations in Central and West Asia. No need asking money from the Congress or illegally selling weapons to finance ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other affiliates.

    If a politician says that the US is leaving Afghanistan, it’s a BIG LIE. The mafia can’t leave behind \$billions in opium trade just because an administration thinks that the troops should go home!

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  4. The Empire is Death Incorporated. It exists to kill and destroy, and profit from them. It starts the vast majority of all major wars, it bombs from the air with cowardly blood-lust, it has been ‘at war’ with some weaker victim for 90% of its infernal existence, and its wars are always characterised by massacres, death-squads, torture, rape and savagery. It has a hardcore of flunky accomplice butchers like Austfailia, and where war itself is not yet feasible, it turns to subversion and sanction to carry out its thanatophiliac drives.
    That’s why its ghoul leaders want war with China so much. Think of the ‘kill counts’, the targets and targets of opportunity there. The only problem is that the Chinese would fight back, and Yankee ‘warriors’ don’t like that. Even the resistance of Cuban airfield workers in Grenada sent them into a frenzy, and they sacked the Cuban Embassy in a typical example of respect for ‘The Rules Based International Order’, defiling the building with their faeces.

  5. Escobar is one of the best and most interesting writers writing for any American journal today. He sees both sides of every point, and is admirably concise at putting it all in perspective. I hope that The Unz Review will continue to publish Escobar’s articles for a long time to come.

  6. BlackFlag says:
    @Mr. Cracker

    Once the Taliban regain control will they shutdown opium production? In that case will Southeast Asian production ramp up once again?

  7. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    “What puzzles me Gomez—-India and G7_____not a word ___” and I have to agree with Bosley Swain again——

  8. gent says:

    The US is only pulling out the visible troops so they use partisan proxies against China’s outposts.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  9. The dream of establishing another ‘Camp Bondsteel’, like the permanent empire base in Kosovo, is dead.

    It only took 20 years for them to realize that Afghanistan will never be like Kosovo.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  10. V. K. Ovelund @ 5

    Escobar is one of the best and most interesting writers writing for any American journal today. He sees both sides of every point, and is admirably concise at putting it all in perspective. I hope that The Unz Review will continue to publish Escobar’s articles for a long time to come.

    Amen! Well said.

  11. “New Delhi will have to go along.”

    The multiple turncoat and war criminal (who murdered hundreds of prisoners of war in 2001 by locking them in sealed containers) Abdul Rashid Dostum, an Erdoğan stooge in the Afghan body politic, was in Delhi last year begging for Indian troops. Not even Modi is quite that stupid. India has not even managed to crush the Kashmir insurgency in 32 years despite committing well over 300000 military, paramilitary, and armed police troops to occupy the state, so Modi isn’t eager for a military defeat in a war of choice in Afghanistan, which even he must know is inevitable. On top of which Modi’s rubber stamp mouthpiece media have started making noises about the need to engage with the Taliban to turn them against Pakistan, a sure sign of what passes for thinking in the gibbering globetrotting genocidal gangster Gujarati government of Narendrabhai Damodardasbhai Modi is going.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
  12. @BlackFlag

    It is most unlikely that they will shut it down again since it’s now Afghanistan’s main source of revenue. I’ll bet you some low denomination currency units that the Taliban have already agreed to let the CIA have the prime cut of the opium harvest in return for Bidet pulling out the troops.

  13. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Wow! Nothing to be surprised here . tats par the course .

    top of which Modi’s rubber stamp mouthpiece media have started making noises about the need to engage with the Taliban to turn them against Pakistan, “
    If you have the source ,can you cite it please if you can?

  14. @SafeNow

    The Vietnamese who collaborated that escaped often did so in boats and showed up in 3rd party countries… Not sure it would work the same way with Afghan people. There are no waters for them to stowaway to…

  15. @gent

    Not just China… Russia too… That’s why they co-founded the Shanghai Cooperation Organization….
    Then in the other direction they attempt to use the proxies against Iran. Which is why Iran wants to join the SCO also. Busy neighborhood.

  16. The American government has used the US military to protect the opium trade for two centuries and evidence shows this continues. The extent of this protection is open for debate, but if one connects the dots the image is ugly.

    • Thanks: Biff, FB
    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  17. @BlackFlag

    When the Taliban previously took control of Afghanistan they brought the opium production almost to zero. Will they do it again? Who knows?

  18. Anonymous[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    A masterpiece, like Pepe’s original post.

  19. Remember when we used to laugh at Russia for being bogged down in Afghanistan? At least they had the sense to get out after less than 10 years. The US have been there twice as long and for sure has spent at least 10x the money for the same futile end.

    Biden is lying when he says we’re leaving. We’re not leaving, we’re just outsourcing the nonsense to private contractors. The troops coming home is just a dog and pony show to fool the sheeple, the same morons who voted for Biden in the first place.

  20. Ghali says:

    Nearly two decades after the 9/11 attacks on the US, more than 3 million innocent Muslims were needlessly killed. Millions more have been wounded, lost their homes and livelihoods. The US-led regimes committed heinous international war crimes and crimes against humanity. All those responsible must be held accountable for their crimes.

    Not one single country from those invaded and attacked by the US-led regimes had any connection to the 9/11 attacks. Overwhelming hard evidence show that the Israeli Mossad were directly responsible for the 9/11 attacks on the US.

  21. @beavertales

    Afghanistan links China and Iran. Can also serve as an attack staging point on the Chinese new Silk Road. It is too important for the USA to give it up. The drug trade is just a plus.

  22. Thanks for a good overview report, Pepe.
    The overarching need for peace/stability leading to Silk Road trade/prosperity will be the eventual winner … the question being how to define “eventual” in real time.

    This is a hugely complex situation, even lengthly reports could come ref any one of those border situations, but certainly correct that Rus/China/Iran/Pak will be exerting pressure to contain and pacify the turmoil that has been created by the Mad Dog’s drug etc occupation. India seems desperate to prove its loyalty to ZUSA and may prove a wild card, even acting against its own regional interests by support for ZUSA.

    Below is a Southfront entry on a regional “clash”. The ANA report is of course just for Pentagram consumption; as a comment notes, the Taliban simply fade out and allows the ANA to “win” a battle, when the ANA is recalled the Taliban moves back in …

    Noone can doubt that ZUS is a force for depravity destruction and evil, with it’s zio poodles in the “west”. Afghan will prove a decisive nail in its/their coffin.

  23. “independent, sovereign, unified, peaceful, democratic, neutral and self-sufficient Afghanistan.”

    I came across this line, or something like it, at my job. It takes all my effort not to comment or interpolate any number of sarcastic addenda – “… independent, sovereign, unified, peaceful, democratic, neutral and self-sufficient Afghanistan, and other such euphemistic phantasms,” or just “lol” . It amazes me that people can write and report this shit with totally straight faces. But then, they believe in the coronavirus hoax.

    I think we should all feel some pity for the Afghan peoples. Perhaps there have been nations more kicked around by the great powers, though having done so little to anyone else, but I am having trouble thinking of any. Absent any other evidence of the perfidy and eternal tick-like bloat of the MIC and Washington establishment, destroying the relative order established by Mullah Omar – for profit, and to spite Russia, China and Iran – would be enough.

  24. El Dato says:

    Reminder that the showy raid on Bin Laden’s hideout is fraught with fishy smells:

    TMR 044 : Transcript : Dr. Paul Craig Roberts : Osama bin Laden – The Man Who Died Twice


    no Pentagon PR is explaining whether these FOBs will completely vanish

    They will be miracles of Chernobyl-style decay and toxic waste dumps for many many years to come.

    • Replies: @republic
  25. This reminds me of an article I read 7 or 8 years ago about a 28 y.o. pilot flying the same B-52 that had been flown by both his father and his grandfather when they did their respective times in the USAF. We’re not far away from Afghanistan, and Iraq for that matter, becoming a three-generation war.

  26. El Dato says:

    The thought arises that you wouldn’t want to be part of a private contractor or a “denied special forces” contingent in Afghanistan after US departure.

    Similar to Syria, you will not even be mentioned under “dogs & goners” in the NYT when China or Russia decides to reduce your home base to a crater. Although you may get a mention at under “someone’s camp was obliterated in a morning attack”.

  27. @Carlton Meyer

    Ah yes, Mr Kerry … “Boston Irish Catholic” Kerry family …

    His family name was changed from Kohn, some say the camel face is a giveaway.

    That’s his paternal side.
    His maternal line (Forbes) were Opium traders in China.

    Runs in the family.
    All part of the “American Dream”.
    Any US soldiers reading this … are you happy giving your lives for dross like this ?

    • Thanks: Old and Grumpy
  28. I can’t understand why any country should give a shit about Afghanistan.

  29. anon[173] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes I agree.That will make you not wonder how shitty the countries attacking Afghanistan are and how poor IQs of the leaders and the cheerleading crowds are across the board .The not so shitty country but close to one like Israel still has not been attacked .So it makes no sense –why attack Afghanistan.

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  30. Meena says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Never knew Indain express in 2003 was asking India join It did though under Arun Shourie in 1990 .He was a Modi in his time .

    Lately Russia and Iran has provided enough support to Pakistan not to allow any Indian voice in the negotiations despite US’s insistence . They know what would that means .

  31. BorisMay says:

    A rather deceptive article which ignores the Ismaili Moslems in the northern border areas like Tajikistan and Uzbekistan that are a natural barrier to the Sunni Afghan Moslems in central and south Afghanistan. The Tajiks in particular are openly critical of Afghan Moslems. From a purely cultural aspect there is zero chance of Afghan/Taliban infiltration in to the states bordering the northern frontier.

    While mentioning women’s rights there is absolutely no mention of young boy’s rights. Afghan men care nothing about women because they prefer sex with young boys. In the west it is called paedophilia, a preference for anal sex with young boys (who dress as girls). All Afghan Sunni men have this preference, and especially the Afghan officer class in their national army.

    It is always interesting that commentators fail to mention this aspect of Afghan life. All the gobble de gook about Silk Roads, infiltration into CIS countries and drugs are always used as a cover to hide the true nature of what the US is protecting: paedophiles.

    The fact that sexual child abuse is the glue that holds the international Establishment together…re Epstein, Prince Andrew and Bill Gates…is always studiously avoided. Why?

    This author has traveled the Pamir Highway but obviously he does not understand the fundamental difference between the non-aligned Ismailis to the north and the Salafist Sunni Moslems to the south. To a stranger it may not be obvious of course, and the author is not native to the area, but neither am I.

    The likelihood of Sunni/Taliban infiltration is literally zero. This is a red herring. The real question is why the US is supporting, even encouraging, sexual abuse of children in Sunni Afghanistan. Are the contractors all paedophiles?

    ***Note, the opium can be grown anywhere the CIA chooses, not just in Afghanistan.

  32. republic says:
    @El Dato

    That article from Paul Craig Roberts

    is excellent,it would have been on the front section of Unz if he would have allowed comments

  33. Unit472 says:

    If ever Bush should have stood in front of a Mission Accomplished banner it should have been when Mullah Omar’s regime was toppled and the beaver hat clown Karzai was installed as president in Kabul.

    Bush had achieved all that we could ever have hoped to achieve in that benighted failed state, avoided any further US casualties and prevented thousands of worthless Afghan refugees being resettled in the US.

    It wouldn’t have made Bush a great wartime president but at least he would have appeared less incompetent.

    • Replies: @anon
  34. gotmituns says:

    Right, leave those people alone to go about their business as they see fit.

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  35. The empire doesn’t care about dead Americans. Why do you think they are recruiting young men and breeders from Central America? More soldiers. It is only a matter of time citizenship for military service becomes a reality .

    This article is why I hate drug users with a passion. Personally I would spray every poppy, pot, coca field with DDT until harvest time. Then I would hit them up with paraquat. That ought to give the drug users a high they won’t ever remember in this lifetime. The users have caused so much misery in the world. Financed so much evil. For what? So their special little selves could get high. Worse yet most come from cushy lives and started their usage at a exclusive party.

    • Agree: Cortes, vox4non
  36. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    “…the gibbering globetrotting genocidal gangster Gujarati government of Narendrabhai Damodardasbhai Modi…”

    That’s is a mouthful even for a low IQ-ed Paki… are you a paki, i.e. a follower of the Grand Sand Nigga of the Arabia?

    If you’re, then, happy ramodon and ala oo akba to you and yours!

    • Replies: @Meena
    , @Malla
    , @anonymous
  37. MLK says:

    You know you’re dealing with a huge f**k up when it has to be filed under “let me count the ways . . . ”

    It’s world-historical when everyone enters the Scarlett O’Hara phase:

    I can’t think about that right now. If I do, I’ll go crazy. I’ll think about that tomorrow.

    That’s indisputably the Afghan War at this point. Meanwhile, ever greater damage to not just the national interest but the republic itself. All because the powers that be feel bad about themselves.

    The lessons we learn depend on where we sit. At the commanding heights HW Bush was a chump for his circumspection in the 1st Gulf War. Let alone re the collapsing Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact (e.g. His “Chicken Kiev Speech”).

    W’s faction, most especially the NeoCon filth that collected around his candidacy and presidency like flies around a rubbish can, figured out it didn’t matter how much they screwed up as long as they cut a deal with the incoming Obama faction.

    The Bush gang could then rest easy in the comforting knowledge that the Obama faction would make them look like pikers when it come to sacrificing the national interest through personalities like psychopath Brennan and other freaks, fools and frauds.

  38. Nothing like the love between the terrorist Ziocorporate globalists of the West and their Russian and Chinese business partners.

    And cemetery really? Pentagon Ziocorporate terrorists can’t account for \$23 trillion of the cash wasted and stolen in maintaining the global status quo in which Putin and Xi can be making deals and policy with whoever is president/PM in the US/NATO terrorist regimes. Sounds just like great business.

    Even if they have to hire more druglord mercs from the CIA/DEA’s Mexican and Colombian friends after “withdrawal”, Afghanistan’s a gift to keep on giving, there’ll be opportunity galore to sit at the diplomatic table to “negotiate” the world’s “order”.

  39. anon[364] • Disclaimer says:

    There was a gun pointed at him by the neocons . The alarm raised by Wesley Clark was still going off and no one dared to turn off that serenade. Because it was also so pleasing to that moron, praise -hungry, imbecile .Above all there was always the fear that someone would spill the secrets of 911 that the administration had slept on the wheel intentionally .

  40. Meena says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    “in November 2016. Modi said that “I have asked the country for just 50 days. If after December 30, there are shortcomings in my work or there are mistakes or a bad intention found in my work, I will be prepared for the punishment that the country decides for me”.

    His demonetisation destroyed Indian economy .GST Bill killed small businesses and weakened Indian economy further. The Agricultural Reform policies cost the lives and incomes of Indian farmers and ruined Indian agricultural economy. The Citizenship (Amendment) Act, 2019 passed by the Modi government is not only intended to destroy citizenship rights of the religious minorities . There is growing rape and violence against women and religious minorities in India as Hindutva fascists encourage the fulfilment of their followers’ anti Muslim and bottled-up sexual desires.”

    Bhabani Shankar Nayak, University of Glasgow, UK

    BJP -RSS would possibly blame the dalit Christians and Muslims while lying cold and getting warmed on the burning pyres for getting smoked out of the communal crevices and corners -condominiums of their fascist politics .

    Thats exactly they recently did in Bangalore .Re-

    Also in NDTV

  41. If (((they))) could spend 20+ years and \$2 trillion + on the slaughter of a few hundred thousand Islamic Terrorists, imagine what they’ll be spending going after a few million white domestic terrorists?
    One thing is for certain, they will be slaughtered from sea to shining shore, from the west to the east. No Geneva Convention, no Nuremberg Codes, no UN treaties, just pure unadulterated white power in all its glory.

  42. d dan says:

    The “China” factor is certainly one of the main consideration for the “love with Afghan cemetery”.

    1. Republican congressman Mike Waltz feels that it is a mistake to withdraw from Afghanistan because:

    “What’s the only country in the world where we have a base, an airbase that basically borders China? It’s Afghanistan, the western flank of China, southern flank of Russia, eastern flank of Iran, … If we do have to go to some type of military confrontation over Taiwan, we need the ability to open a second front on China’s western flank” – Mike Waltz

    “As China continues to unleash a genocide on the minority Muslim Uighur population in the western Xijiang region, they fear American intelligence resources supporting their persecuted population from Afghanistan in resisting the oppression from Beijing.” – Mike Waltz

    2. Lawrence Wilkerson is the Chief of Staff for Colin Powell. He explained that two of the objectives for the US troops in Afghanistan were to disrupt China’s Belt and Road Initiative and to leap on and stabilize Pakistan’s nuclear stockpile if necessary. And the third reason is to destabilize China through Xinjiang:

    “… the CIA would want to destabilize China, and that would be the best way to do it, to foment unrest and to join with those Uighurs in pushing the Han Chinese in Beijing from internal places rather than external.” — Lawrence Wilkerson

    • Thanks: Aedib, showmethereal
  43. Art says:

    One cannot but feel mildly amused at the theatrical spectacle of the US troop pullout from Afghanistan, its completion day now postponed for maximum PR impact to 9/11, 2021.

    Clearly the US government is trying to get some propaganda value out of ending this war on 9/11.

    Seeking some political advantage by flying the bloody 9/11 war flag is an insult to all Afghanistan and American people.

    Hope this sick ploy backfires on them and people start demanding a new 9/11 investigation.

    p.s. Bush, Chaney, and Rumsfeld should be hung in effigy every 9/11.

    • Replies: @Druid55
  44. @Ghali

    The same lies we were told about “Islamic Terrorists” are being repeated again to attack “White Supremacists”.
    As more people wake up to (((globalist MIC))) ultimate solution, the more multi nation warriors there will be to fight.

  45. The zionist war in Afghanistan has it’s genesis in the zionist and ZUS attack on the WTC and the pentagram on 911 and not only the war in Afghanistan but the destruction of Iraq and Libya and Syria and all this killing of civilians , men , women and children over the 21 years, millions were killed and all of this for zionist Israel and the ZUS MIC.

    The real terrorists wear suits and operate out Washington DC and Tel Aviv and London and are backed by the zionist central banks who profit from the blood shed and the trillions spent.

  46. Malla says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    That’s is a mouthful even for a low IQ-ed Paki… are you a paki, i.e. a follower of the Grand Sand Nigga of the Arabia?

    He is an Indian Communist living in the West. While I agree with his comment, I can understand why Indian Nationalists hate Indian Communists as “shameless traitors to their nation”.

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  47. Malla says:

    Meena Meena Meena, the Indo-US alliance seems to be falling apart thanks to Joe Biden. Joe’s Chinese masters seemed to have played well. But divorce from USA will not turn India pro-China. Nothing in the World will turn India pro-China. If the whole world turns pro-China, India will stand alone and resist.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  48. Malla says:

    Israeli Mossad were directly responsible for the 9/11 attacks on the US.

    9/11 was the Pearl Harbour of this century. The main objective of this false flag was to justify screwing up and destroying the Middle East and to increase surveillance on Western populations. Much of those surveillance by Israeli companies.

  49. @Meena

    Indian Express, Times of India, and India Today were among the shrillest media demanding India join the invasion of Iraq. I don’t remember whether the Hindustan Times did. Outlook, though it celebrated the fall of Kabul with a cover story, did not.

  50. @Meena

    Don’t try to educate these Modifellating Bhaktonazis. Their god has just put up petrol prices to Rs 100, so their response would be to clap and cheer that he’s scored a century.

    All they know is to invent canards to throw at people who are not members of the cult of Narendrabhai Damodardasbhai Modi.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  51. @MarcusAurelius

    Totally predictably, there was a bomb blast at a girls’ school in Kabul today, which is just Stage One of the false flag operations to scupper even the fake withdrawal.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  52. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    “Jain Commission’s Report – The Foreign HandThe Jain Commission’s final report focuses on a larger international conspiracy, and theCIA-Mossad-LTTE link, in the Rajiv killing.

    The final report mentions Amos Radia and Giorce Betchar as agents operating for the Israelis in India.

    The report is not without its Indian angle. Startling depositions and intelligence intercepts included in the report indicate that Dr Subramanian Swamy and former Prime Minister Chandra Shekhar, in different ways, may have had prior knowledge of a threat to Rajiv but did not react in a “timely manner”.

    Justice Jain has devoted separate chapters to three key Indian— godman Chandraswami, Janata Party leader Dr Subramanian Swamy and former PM Chandra Shekhar. The three are bracketed, prima facie, as either having a link with those who allegedly conspired with the assassins or at least having been privy to the fact of a plot.

    Ramesh Dalal, BJP activist, deposed that he knew “Shri Chandraswami has relations with the CIA, Mossad and the LTTE. He took the help of these agencies in assassinating Rajiv Gandhi…. … Chandraswami told me he had been financing the LTTE…”

    As for Swamy, the Commission interweaves various independent depositions and pieces of evidence to flesh out his links ….

    Going back to the period before the killing, Jain cites the then cabinet secretary Zafar Saifullah’s statement that “there were some intercepts emanating from Israel for information to Chandraswami and Swamy for Jaffna. These intercepts have not come before the Commission. If Saifullah’s statement is correct, then the intercepts would have thrown much more light on the question of complicity.”

    Today Swamy is most anti Russian and virulently pro American . India’s entry in neoliberalism and rise of RSS -BJP became possible only after death of Rajiv Ghandhi.

  53. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Uh, the Taliban IS a Salafist enterprise.

  54. Malla says:

    100% correct, Swami the South Indian Brahmin Yale Professor (Yale-Skull and Bones) played a big part in getting India against Russia and on the US camp. The guy is a prime grade slaimeball, riling up the poople with “Hindutva greatness” while his daughter is married to some rich, posh Muslim guy. He rails against the “evul” pro Soviet/pro-Russia Nehru- Gandhi family and riles up the idiotic Hindutva Indian masses that they are “agents of the Vatican scheming 24/7 to destroy Hindu culture”. LOL Hindutva monkies lap up this bullshit. The Vatican has itself turned commie. Many western churches are just soft Communists today. They have turned anti-West, anti-White. They are collapsing, except maybe those Christian Zionist freaks.Lick Jew ass at all costs like those Hinduvadis. They both are similar, butt-buddies they do not realize this yet.
    Rajiv Gandhi was actually the last protector of India from the Western financial corporations coming in for the loot. He was not perfect but anyways.
    But Joe Biden is doing everything to destroy the Indo-US alliance. Backstabbing India, maybe for this Chinese masters. Indians in the USA with their virulent hate Whitey, hate Western civilization and hate Christianity mental disease (but conveniently pro Modi and pro Hindutva and also pro lick Jew ass) screeched and screamed against Trump and voted for anti-Indian Biden and now their great hero Modi is screwed. LOL. Indians are a bunch of idiots. We are comedy pure and simple. All those years of mindless hate British/ hate Whitey and hate China. We are a confused lot.

    And Chandrasekhar who colluded with the two Swamis to kill Rajiv Gandhi became the PM immediately after the assassination.

  55. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Once again, are you a paki from India? If so, wish you happy romodom and ala oo akba.

  56. @Meena

    Didn’t the pakis, i.e. converts to Islam asked for and received not one but two separate territories when Hindustan got its independence from the Great Britain? If I were a Hindu, I wouldn’t want pakis in my country either, especially, since they feel closer bonds to the sand niggas, i.e. dirty Arabs more than their kith and kin in the Indian Subcontinent.

    • Replies: @Anon
  57. Aedib says:

    The obvious failure of NATO in Afghanistan is not exactly good news for Russia. It will have to spend resources, may be jointly with China, to brake the dissemination of extremist Islamism inside Central Asia. I think Putin felt comfortable with the “permanent wound” theory. I.e to use NATO to control the Taliban in Afghanistan while using Taliban to bleed USA.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  58. @Malla

    I don’t care for Muslims but hell, I would take a paki over a no-good fucking commie bastard any day of the week.

    And Malla, you may want teach the idiot that there is no such thing as “Damodardasbhai”… it’s either Damodar Bhai or Damodar Das. Not only he is a treasonous ass but ignorant of the basics of the culture… must be a black bengali!

    • Replies: @Malla
  59. Malla says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    must be a black bengali!

    Bingo, good guess, he is Bengali. We desis can have have some uncanny sense in these things. I do not know if he is black, he is a Bengali Brahman.
    Bengali intellectuals, very smart people but they waste their time on bullshit. Smoking a fag (smoke) in Coffee House, Calcutta and having intellectual debates (mostly some Marxist gibberish) and showing off their intellectualism. All we simple UP guys know about are cows and buffaloes. LOL Gave me, the simple gawar (country-bumpkin) UP Bhaiyya an inferiority complex, yessa they did.
    Later I came to know that Marx was a pompous fartpig. I pity them Bengali “intellectuals” now. What a waste of time and intelligence!!!

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  60. @Mr. Cracker

    Another fifty, mostly young girls, slaughtered by US proxies today, more blood for ghouls like Clinton to sup upon.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  61. @Aedib

    The dissemination of Islamism, the USA’s preferred weapon, in the region is a SUCCESS for NATO, my friend, not a ‘failure’.

    • Replies: @Malla
  62. @Malla

    They are that stupidly self-harming, all out of envy.

  63. Anon[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    It’s a big volume , very large book with many pictures, references, citations .
    Don’t pick up the page where bhaktas have left as their favorite point of reference .
    Evolution of Pak took actually a while despite the Hinduvatta’s birth as a full fledged adult virus of monstrosity by 1880.

  64. @Meena

    There also seems to be greater networking between Turkey – Iran – Pakistan… Pakistan is not as friendly with the Saudis anymore… Seems the Muslim world is splitting into the Arab camp – minus Qatar – against that bloc. The Iranian backed Houthis have pretty much taken over Yemen… We shall see. Pakistan seems to have come to the conclusion that helping the US in the region is too costly to them…

  65. @A Half Naked Fakir

    You’re more than welcome to invent whatever fantasy you want in your diseased imagination about me. I mean, someone who literally worships Modi as a god- two temples that I last saw- isn’t someone whose opinion means anything to me anyway.

  66. @Anon

    In fact Jinnah at first laughed off the idea of Pakistan as ludicrous and unworkable, which, of course, it has proved to be.

  67. @BlackFlag

    I would venture to say that the present day Taliban is not like yesteryear’s Taliban; they are prore pragmatic, less idealogical and need financing just as the CIA does for its covert operations.

  68. @anon

    I recall Gandhi’s assassination extremely well. At that time everyone knew he would win and everyone expected a second Gandhi regime to be a tremendous improvement on the first (not to speak of the VP Singh/Chandrasekhar disaster). He had learnt his lesson about packing his administration with Doon School cronies, and hopeful wouldn’t bow to the religious fundies of either camp any longer either. Eliminating him opened the door to the neoliberal capitalist robber baron class that has ruined India from then to now.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  69. This is true. It is both good (less religious balderdash like restricting formal – they never restricted informal – girls’ schooling) and bad (they’re now much more profit conscious and depend on opium for financing).

    In any case they’re going to come back to power now, that is inevitable, and we’ll just have to wait and see what they’ll do.

  70. Malla says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    That is ISIS/Daesh, Taliban is different from ISIS, Mulga. Daesh are Globo Corp’s Islamic fundu mercenaries, Taliban is native Afghan Islamic fundus (with Pakistani support and funding).

    All Russia and China need to do is sit behind and let the US bleed. But one feels sorry for the Afghans who have to go through all this bullshit. They don’t deserve this shit.

    • Agree: Aedib
    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  71. Pindos says:

    Can I be racist here.? The Chinese are notorious for cutting corns. And arrogance. But the Vietnamese are quite diligent and thoughtful. Each has been a plus for america. But we can’t take everybody onboard.

    • LOL: showmethereal
  72. Druid55 says:

    You left out all the neocon tribalists

  73. @Malla

    55 school children paid the price with car bomb at entrance to school. I suspect it was planted by CIA to prove USA still needed to protect Afghanistan OR it was USA trained thugs—Uighurs out of China —responsible.

    • Replies: @Malla
  74. anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    I take it you are a retarded hindutvadi, and a faggot who would love to be reamed by your idol, Modi, if only the evil mofer wasn’t the impotent lowlife he is. That should also make you a rabid follower of that extremist pagan curse on mankind, which amongst so many stomach churning beliefs, I have tried to distill just a few of the most egregious ones;

    1. Worship of queer deities. Shiva and Vishnu fornicating together to produce a child deity.
    2. Worship of rapist deities. Vishnu raped a woman because he was impotent at vanquishing her demon husband.
    3. Worship of symbols of human genitalia. Shiva’s phallus, the Lingam, and his consort’s vagina, the Yoni. Sheesh! What kind of mindset would one have to believe in such puke inducing garbage?
    4. Worship of such mutated creatures as the elephant headed deity, Ganesh.
    5. Worship of the devil like Kali.
    6. And so on.

    ala oo akba

    Lol! I have never understand rabid “theists” from godless societies trying to make fun of the Arabic saying God is Great!

    Aren’t your pagan deities “great”? Don’t you believe in shiva oo akba?!

  75. @Malla

    All fucking Bongs are black (some of them may pass for North Indians), not only in color but in their idiotic hearts. Just like the Thais took the temple dancing girls to hearts like ducks to water, the useless Bengali has taken the idea of Bannerjee, Chatterjee and Mookerjee too far for his own good. Just look at the entire Bengal (including Banglastan): it’s a piss-poor shithole that has given up eighty percent of its population to the creed of the sand niggas. What a useless bunch!

  76. Malla says:

    I suspect it was planted by CIA to prove USA still needed to protect Afghanistan

    Not impossible. Very likely, actually. They have a long history of false flags.

  77. @anonymous

    Don’t forget that his gibbering globetrotting genocidal gangster Gujarati god Modi is a closet homosexual who abandoned his wife without divorce or maintenance and posed as a bachelor until the truth came out when he had to file his nomination papers for the 2014 elections.

  78. @A Half Naked Fakir

    You must be really traumatised that despite your god the gibbering globetrotting genocidal Gujarati gangster putting governance on hold for months to campaign in Bengal, the Bhakt Jumla Party got Mamata Banerjee’s cast right up its arse. Don’t worry, this is just the beginning. Wait and watch what Uttar Pradesh does to the career criminal Ajay Mohan “Yogi Adityanath” Bisht next year.

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  79. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Momata Bandopadyoy, the ugly carpet muncher by choice belongs in banglastan like the rest of you no good blackies unlike the celibate by choice bania Modi.

  80. @Anon

    The sand nigga virus started way back in the 7th century… radiation treatments just may cure you by the end of 3rd millennium. Of course, harakiri by scimitar might be the best option for the half billion of you in the subcontinent being that you neither belong in the Saudi desert nor the verdant landscape of Hindoostan!

  81. @A Half Naked Fakir

    Keep hoping and fantasising. Your gibbering globetrotting genocidal gangster Gujarati god Modi’s inspiration Hitler did that in the Führerbunker and fat lot of good that did him.

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  82. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Ah, that won’t matter. By 1979 Vietnam & China were at war. At a certain point, the USA taxpayer says enough.

    It is sort of like West Pakistan. You are Bengali so I use this example. The people in Karachi just could not give a damn about Winston Churchill transforming Bangladesh into a colony that Pakistanis did not want.

    By 1971 Winston Churchill had been discredited. As has George Bush. Wars ushered in by discredited leaders do not make the territory more popular.

    That is how the Americans feel about this. Try to factor in time. The USA enter Afghanistan 20 years ago. That is one fifth of a century.

    West Pakistan was gone by 1971. Similarly, nothing that happens in Afghanistan is going to keep the Americans there.

    Bin Laden accomplished exactly what he desired, should we follow the theory he was behind 9-11. Hypothetically.

    He drew the USA into a 700 billion dollar war & now the USA is backwater.

    He won. Sure, he lost his life, but he still won.

    And if 9-11 was an inside job, than nobody now wants to continue a war it started.

    Twenty years is an entire generation. I was 27 years old in 2001. That’s just a huge amount of time.

    Gen Y & Z is totally weary of war. None of the care. Only a few moron Boomer hick GOP care.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  83. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    But what about the final solution of the black bengalee? Banglastan sounds just about right!

  84. @Zarathustra

    I can’t understand why any country should give a shit about Afghanistan.

    They make good hashish but honestly Nepalese hashbol is better and they don’t fuck goats. At least not that I know of.

  85. Now that the source of civil disorder is leaving; a sort of peace can return to Afghanistan. That’s assuming that the Americans are not faking it.

  86. So, will an event occur between now and September 11 which will enable the White House to reverse their decision to withdraw from Afghanistan?

  87. @Jeff Stryker

    “Bin Laden accomplished exactly what he desired, should we follow the theory he was behind 9-11. Hypothetically.

    He drew the USA into a 700 billion dollar war & now the USA is backwater”

    What really started the quagmire was the petro dollar and the “need” to protect Saudi Arabia…. That started the downward spiral…

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