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In an exclusive interview, the Senator who led inquiry into attack says Obama’s plan to confront Sunni jihadis repeats past mistakes
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The rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) has been aided by the continuing failure of the US Government to investigate the role of Saudi Arabia in the 9/11 attacks and its support of jihadi movements such as al-Qaeda in the years since, says former Senator Bob Graham, the co-chairman of the official inquiry into 9/11.

Senator Graham, who chaired the Senate Intelligence Committee, said that successive administrations in Washington had turned a blind eye to Saudi support for Sunni extremists. He added: “I believe that the failure to shine a full light on Saudi actions and particularly its involvement in 9/11 has contributed to the Saudi ability to continue to engage in actions that are damaging to the US – and in particular their support for Isis.”

Senator Graham, a distinguished elder statesmen who was twice Democratic governor of Florida before spending 18 years in the US Senate, believes that ignoring what Saudi Arabia was doing and treating it as a reliable American ally contributed to the US intelligence services’ failure to identify Isis as a rising power until after it captured Mosul on 10 June. He says that “one reason I think that our intelligence has been less than stellar” is that not enough attention was given to Saudi Arabia’s fostering of al-Qaeda-type jihadi movements, of which Isis is the most notorious and successful. So far the CIA and other intelligence services have faced little criticism in the US for their apparent failure to foresee the explosive expansion of Isis, which now controls an area larger than Great Britain in northern Iraq and eastern Syria.

Senator Graham’s criticism of the US policy towards Saudi Arabia is important because it comes amidst growing doubts in the US about the wisdom of President Barack Obama’s plan announced on Wednesday to look to the Gulf monarchs as crucial allies in the US campaign to contain and, if possible, push back Isis after its victories in Iraq and Syria during the summer.

Under the plan, Saudi Arabia is to host a special training facility for “moderate” Syrian opposition which is to fight both Isis and the government of President Bashar al-Assad. A problem is that Saudi Arabia dislikes Isis today, whatever its role in its creation, but it gives priority to regime change in Damascus.

Senator Graham thinks it is wise to engage with Saudi Arabia because, despite Saudi denials, he says it has been “a central figure in financing Isis and extremist groups”. But he is cautious about success from the US point of view because of the Saudi monarchy’s long-term alliance with the Wahhabi clergy and its commitment to spread Wahhabism, the intolerant variant of Islam which denounces Shia as heretics and treats women as chattels under male control. The Senator says that Saudi Arabia not only gives support to Sunni communities worldwide “but the most extreme elements among the Sunni”.

The Saudi role in the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center in 2001 has long been public knowledge since 15 out of 19 of the hijackers were Saudis, and the leader of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, was a member of the Saudi ruling elite. The 9/11 inquiry found that, for financing, al-Qaeda relied on a core group of private donors and charities in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf.

Despite the Saudi connections of the 9/11 conspirators, Saudi Arabia and its citizens were treated with extraordinary leniency in the wake of the attacks. Some 144 individuals, mostly from the Saudi aristocracy, were permitted to fly back to Saudi Arabia within days of the attacks without being questioned by the FBI. The influential Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan was pictured in cheerful conversation with President Bush on the White House balcony a few days after 9/11. Senator Graham recalls that “there were several incidents [in which US officials] were inexplicably solicitous to Saudis”. US officials who went to Saudi Arabia to investigate links to 9/11 found their Saudi counterparts to be persistently obstructive.

Saudi obstructionism continued during the decade after 9/11: in 2007, Stuart Levey, the Under Secretary of the US Treasury in charge of monitoring and impeding the financing of terrorism, told ABC News that when it came to al-Qaeda, “if I could somehow snap my fingers and cut off the funding from one country, it would be Saudi Arabia”. He added that at that stage not one person identified by the US or the UN as funding terrorism had been prosecuted by the Saudis. Eight years after 9/11, the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, wrote in a cable leaked by WikiLeaks that “Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaeda, the Taliban, LeT [Lashkar-e-Taiba in Pakistan] and other terrorist groups.”

As al-Qaeda in Iraq began to reorganise and turn itself into Isis in the years after 2010, politicians and security officials in Baghdad were convinced of the complicity of Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf monarchies in funding jihadis in Iraq. They generally avoided public criticism of these states as allies of the US, but in March 2014 Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki identified Saudi Arabia and Qatar as the two countries “primarily responsible for the sectarian, terrorist and security crisis in Iraq”. He said that Riyadh and Doha were “buying weapons for the benefit of these terrorist organisations”. Mr Maliki had his own share of blame for persecuting the Sunni community in Iraq so it gave support to armed resistance by Isis, but Iraqi leaders all believed that the monarchs of the Gulf were bankrolling Sunni opposition in Iraq and would never accept a Shia-dominated government.


The most striking example of Washington’s willingness to protect the Kingdom over complicity in 9/11 is the 28 pages of the official inquiry that were censored and have yet to be published. Senator Graham is not allowed to reveal what is in the chapter that was redacted, but other sources say that they are about connections between Saudi government officials and the 9/11 attacks. Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, in their book The Eleventh Day: The Full Story of 9/11, quote a senior American official, who saw the 28 pages before they were excised, apparently on the initiative of President Bush, as saying: “If the 28 pages were to be made public, I have no question that the entire relationship with Saudi Arabia would change overnight.”

Senator Graham has long campaigned to have the 28 pages of the 9/11 inquiry and other documents released. He says, knowing their content, that there is no national security justification for keeping them a secret 13 years after 9/11. He says that some government agencies, notably the FBI, have a motive in keeping information from the public about “their actions and their competence at the time of 9/11”. In Sarasota, Florida, the FBI initially denied having any documents relating to hijackers who were based there but has now handed over 80,000 pages that might be relevant under the Freedom of Information Act, according to Tom Julin, the Miami-based attorney handling the FoI application.

Asked why the US government has been so eager since 2001 to cover up for the Saudis, Senator Graham says that one explanation is the long-term US strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia, going back to the Second World War. There is also the close personal relationship between the Bush family and the Kingdom. But what he finds more difficult to explain is why the “policy of covering up Saudi involvement [in 9/11] persisted under the Obama administration”. Though Mr Obama had pledged to the families of the 9/11 victims during the 2008 presidential election campaign to release the 28 censored pages, it has failed to do so six years later.

Senator Graham does not suggest that the Saudis are directly running Isis, but that their support for Sunni extremists in Iraq and Syria opened the door to jihadis including Isis. Similar points were made by Sir Richard Dearlove, the former head of the British Secret Intelligence Service, and MI6, who said in a lecture at the Royal United Services Institute in London in July that the Saudi government is “deeply attracted towards any militancy which effectively challenges Shiadom”. He said that rulers of the Kingdom tended to oppose jihadis at home as enemies of the House of Saud, but promote them abroad in the interests of Saudi foreign policy. Anti-Shi’ism has always been at the centre of the Saudi world view, and he quoted Prince Bandar, the ambassador in Washington at the time of 9/11 and later head of Saudi intelligence, as saying to him: “The time is not far off in the Middle East, Richard, when it will be literally ‘God help the Shia’. More than a billion Sunni have simply had enough of them.”

In allying itself with Saudi Arabia, the US automatically plugs itself into an anti-Shia agenda and limits its ability to monitor and take action against Sunni jihadis who are promoted by Riyadh. In Syria this has led to parts of a jihadi-dominated military opposition being relabelled as “moderate”. President Obama intends to support this group, who scarcely exist on the map, to fight both Isis and the Assad government.

Senator Graham maintains that there is a “dark side” to Saudi Arabia exemplified by 9/11 and its aftermath that the American public need to know about and which has hitherto been concealed. The US and other Western governments have yet to explain why their “war on terror” has so demonstrably failed with the rise of Isis, but tolerance of Saudi complicity in 9/11 will surely be part of the answer.

‘The Jihadis Return: Isis and the New Sunni Uprising’ by Patrick Cockburn, published by OR Books, is available at

(Republished from The Independent by permission of author or representative)
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  1. Very good article! I agree! However, to confront the Saudi terrorist funding complex the US must pursue energy independence, so instead of dropping bombs on ISIS it should use that money on research and development of green energy, our gas reserves, and recycling technology. There is no point to this new war because more fighters will join the insurgency with Saudi funding, American and British training, and unfortunately American arms. They will add mujahedin on one end and kill them on the other. Also there is the issue of the petrodollar. The US needs to get its house in order so we can cut the Saudi terrorist funding complex loose. I wonder how much of Obama’s new war is guided by the Saudi hand? Would the US be supporting the mujahedin if Saudi Arabia and Israel didn’t want the Shia to be erased from the pages of history? I think the answer is no. Also there is money to be made from this chaos. The US clearly has no desire to go to war against Saudi Arabia. If it did, it would have done so after 9/11. I wish Obama would emancipate the US from Saudi and Israeli warmongering. I wonder what goes through the President’s mind beyond the next election.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  2. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    When it comes to war and war mongering, the President does not call the shots. Other forces are at work. It matters not whether it is Bush, Clinton, H., Kerry or Obama, more war is in the offing. Keep reading Cockburn, including the new book.

  3. rod1963 says:

    Excellent article and I agree with it.

    And heck yeah there is a dark side to KSA. You know why? Because KSA is the chief builder of Mosques and Iman’s throughout the world, especially in the West. That means they promote the Salafist/Wahabi fundamentalist poison that generates all the jihadis.

    I remember a special on TV about radicalism in Canadian Mosques, they used a Sufi sheik to investigate and he came out and said all the Mosques were Saudi funded and staffed and had a lot of radical literature as well.

    None of this talked about in the MSM or in the government that remains oblivious to the growing cancer in their midst.

    You want to kill radicalism? Topple the KSA government and put the oil supply under control of the West. Failure to confront the Saudis will just make things worse.

    • Replies: @Heath
  4. This article has serious issues. The most blatant being it validates the 9/11 commission in several respects, which is a real travesty of justice and disservice to truth:

    ^ Fear of Minor Debris points to the issues with WTC Building 7 collapse & several of the Saudi ‘hijackers’ turning up alive-

    Another problem with the article is, the American training of jihadis. If the Saudis are wrong to fund them, what of the USA complicity in training them?

    ^ When American trained commandos go rogue

    And, of course, ’empire’ has a lot to do with the preceding:

    ^ It’s not only the American ‘oil addiction’ but greed generally

    • Replies: @El Tonno
  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Washington Bridge–two Israelis dressed up as Arabs, driving a white van having explosives and sides of the van depicting a plane painted and slamming into the WTC 1. Both drivers MOSSAD agents and released. Police report sealed. Day of the event–Sept 11 2001. Wake up America–Politicians are lying and most Americans don’t want to know the truth :^(

  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Someone should remind Sen. Graham, whom I generally tend to admire, of the Spock quote from the Star Trek TV series that, “”The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one” and that the needs of the American people to be informed and the records set straight outweigh the needs of the few, specifically the Bush family and those who allowed those responsible for 9/11 walk. As long as the American people are kept uninformed and ignorant those who manipulate world events will have no checks against agendas that are not in the best interest of the American people.

  7. KA [AKA "911"] says:

    Saudi have established religious tentacles through payments of the certain voices within Madrass and Mosques. The activity is most obvious in Pakistan .They have been trying to infiltrate in Central Asian “Stans” and Malaysia. The main opposition leader in Malayasia is a wahabi paid agent and was widely supported by the neocons against Malyasian current and previous Prime ministers . Uzbek leader Kamarov personally threatened to shoot any wahabi . Balkan is another hot spot of Saudi activity.
    The religious angles of the Saudi comport well with the destabilization agenda of the west in Russia and China ( Brezensky will agree to that. So will the former intelligence officer of CIA as book -Dollar for Terror says . ) and now in Syria and not so long ago did in Libya.
    Having said that it is doubtful that the roles and the parts played by Saudi in 911 were from the august office of the 911 Central Control Room .They were junior partner at best .
    Graham is focusing on 911 now .It might have one purpose that is to raise the stakes for Saudi and to threaten them -if they did not get on board with the wider plans of US in ME – with the disclosure of what are in the 28 pages . But the whole information put out by the commission is based on information derived from torture,obfuscation,destruction of tapes, partial or no cooperation, belittling the eye witness’s descriptions of 911 as it was happening , and not following the obvious clues like mystery E mail from Odigo, foreknowledge of the dancing 5 Israeli youths with connection to Israeli intelligence, the spying activities by hundreds of Israeli “art-Students” , the stock market activities prior to 911, and the cold dismissive attitude by the Bush administrations to the information on possible attacks on the US soil .

  8. The problem with articles about 911 is that they attract all kinds of conspiracy minded nutcases. Real conspiracies do exist, and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn of Israeli or CIA etc. involvement in 911, but it was obviously done by nineteen Arabs. The Arabs might have been helped by some intelligence services (I find a Mossad involvement plausible, especially in light of the wildly celebrating Israelis detained at the scene, even if it’s far from being proven), but obviously there was no controlled demolition, holograms of planes, cruise missile at the Pentagon, etc. Of course nobody takes any kind of involvement by intelligence services seriously because of the nutcases advocating for their controlled demolition etc. theories.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:


    I am the sibling of a victim of 9/11. My beautiful sister was murdered at Tower 1 of the WTC.

    15 of 19 of those sad, confused young men were carrying Saudi passports.

    We import less than 13% of our petroleum from Saudi Arabia and that number is rapidly declining as we engage more and more in alternative energy sources.

    The Saudi government has sheltered wealthy Saudi corporations and individuals that have been proven to have paid for the apartments, hotel rooms, meals, flight training, strippers, airplane tickets and other expenses of the 9/11 hijackers.

    I am a plaintiff in a lawsuit being brought by a patriotic law firm (Motley Rice) in order to hold these Saudi entities accountable for their misdeeds, commonly, but not well-known as the Lawsuit to Bankrupt Terrorism.

    Jim Baker (former Chief of staff and Treasury Secretary under Reagan and Secretary of State under H.W. Bush) has a law firm in Texas and that law firm is defending the Saudis being sued by over 10,000 American plaintiffs, people who were damaged directly by the events of 9/11.

    The courts have been stone-walling the entire lawsuit for over 10 years. Many of the judges were appointed by both of the Bush presidents.

    Questions: After 9/11, why didn’t we bomb Saudi Arabia? After 9/11 why didn’t the Saudis pay reparations to the families and children of 9/11? Why are the defendants in the Lawsuit to Bankrupt Terrorism being defended by an American and a former public servant? and why isn’t that American and former public servant being tried for treason? Why aren’t the judges that are siding with the Saudi’s at every turn being tried for treason? We went to war, just like in 1941-45 and in 1945/46 the war criminals were tried and executed, their possessions seized as war reparations. I don’t understand the difference with today? Aren’t the Saudi’s that funded 9/11 war criminals? Didn’t they fund the murder of 2,996 people and cause over $10 billion in damage? Why don’t they have to pay?

    Less than 13% of our energy supply, especially when we import over 30% from Canada and we can import more from our Canadian friends, Venezuela and other countries… is not enough to give up our national identity and our national interests. Yes, the Saudi’s have over $1 Trillion invested in the US. So? We should take it from them… yes take it from them as payment of war reparations for all of the costs associated with 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan. Forget Iraq, that was a folly intended to make H.W. Bush, Cheney and their friends very rich (which it did). But we could seize the Saudi holdings in the US in the same way we seized Iran’s holdings in the US during the hostage crisis of 1979/80.

    What happened to us? How did we lose our identity as a nation? How can guys like Jim Baker look themselves in the mirror and how can his friends ignore the simple fact that he is a traitor?

    The course is clear, hold the Saudis accountable for their misdeeds. Make them pay. Make it hurt. Then you will see a shift in geopolitics. Perhaps they will think twice before they squander the wealth that has fallen on them so easily. The Saudis are dogs (a term they love to use to privately describe Americans), the only reason they have their wealth is because the British gave it them. They have no legitimate claim of royalty and no right to control the Muslim holy lands (Islam’s equivalent of the Vatican). All they have is money and a lot of it. But we can take it from them, our military dwarfs them by over 50 times… we can take everything from them with a single aircraft carrier group. The Russians and the Chinese won’t stop us, they are as disgusted with the Saudis as we are.

    Let’s hold these bastards accountable. Let’s do it. Let’s be proud Americans and remember that we ARE the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    • Replies: @KA
    , @Chico
  10. KA [AKA "911"] says:

    Two pieces of information have been made public and have been done numerous times . One was that the 19 hijackers came from Saudi and second one was that a passport was retrieved from the site.

    Even these information are suspect for number of reasons. Do you have any evidence that Saudi did it? We will will like to have a new investigation , an impartial ,unbiased,free from pressure from any sources .
    Even if Saudi oil were taken over by US , there will be no direct benefit from it to US economy . The money that we will make from it is already here in US in treasury bonds . Few more trillions will not do much . Well it will. We can wage more wars without borrowing from China . But I agree with you that Saudi royals are despicable . But again that’s why Harvard Professor ,Government insider, ex Pentagon advisor Lutwalk -author of Coup de ta – a Practical Handbook- replied honestly when challenged with the question why US was attacking Saddam in 1991. He said “Saddam does not spend money on prostitutes and wines like the Sheikhs do. He is rebuilding his country and decommissioning his Republican Guard”

  11. Chico says:

    You said it. We invaded the wrong country. The Saudis are the ones funding the extremist flavor of Islam all around the world.

  12. What would happen to Wall Street, and by extension, millions of pension funds, 401ks, retirements, if Saudis pulled out their investments? What if Israelis & ‘Israel firsters’ pulled their money out of Wall Street?

    IMO, those are the short hairs that keep USA involved in ME.

  13. El Tonno says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    “Fear of Minor Debris points to the issues with WTC Building 7 collapse”

    Not that shit again. Far from minor debris Building 7 had a nice fat gash in its support structure. Because, you know, concrete crap was coming down from on high etc.

    “several of the Saudi ‘hijackers’ turning up alive”

    Oh yeah? [citation needed]

    You want conspiracy? Here is a pretty good one, and it may even be very true:

    • Replies: @KA
    , @Ronald Thomas West
    , @KA
  14. KA [AKA "911"] says:
    @El Tonno

    “A five-year-old story from our archive has been the subject of some recent editorial discussion here. The story, written in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, was about confusion at the time surrounding the names and identities of some of the hijackers. This confusion was widely reported and was also acknowledged by the FBI.

    The story has been cited ever since by some as evidence that the 9/11 attacks were part of a US government conspiracy.

    We later reported on the list of hijackers, thereby superseding the earlier report. In the intervening years we have also reported in detail on the investigation into the attacks, the 9/11 commission and its report.

    We’ve carried the full report, executive summary and main findings and, as part of the recent fifth anniversary coverage, a detailed guide to what’s known about what happened on the day. But conspiracy theories have persisted. The confusion over names and identities we reported back in 2001 may have arisen because these were common Arabic and Islamic names.

    In an effort to make this clearer, we have made one small change to the original story. Under the FBI picture of Waleed al Shehri we have added the words “A man called Waleed Al Shehri…” to make it as clear as possible that there was confusion over the identity. The rest of the story remains as it was in the archive as a record of the situation at the time.
    We recently asked the FBI for a statement, and this is, as things stand, the closest thing we have to a definitive view: The FBI is confident that it has positively identified the nineteen hijackers responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Also, the 9/11 investigation was thoroughly reviewed by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States and the House and Senate Joint Inquiry. Neither of these reviews ever raised the issue of doubt about the identity of the nineteen hijackers.

    Yes, lets read it again –“We recently asked the FBI for a statement, and this is, as things stand, the closest thing we have to a definitive view: The FBI is confident that it has positively identified the nineteen hijackers responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Also, the 9/11 investigation was thoroughly reviewed by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States and the House and Senate Joint Inquiry. Neither of these reviews ever raised the issue of doubt about the identity of the nineteen hijackers.”

    This is the evidence – The FBI is confident ! National Commission on Terrorist Attacks reviewed it! House and Senate did not raise doubt!
    And we are supposed to believe it!

  15. @El Tonno

    2,200 professional architects and engineers have signed on to dispute the government’s (and your) ‘WTC 7 died of fright’ position:

    Here’s the better conspiracy link for people inclined to buy into the official whitewash in forum discussions:

    ^ it really is worth a read 😉

  16. KA [AKA "911"] says:

    Katz, who ‘Found’ the Sotloff video, Caught on Camera Admitting to Her Con Job

    September 8, 2014 by ajfloyd

    Rita Katz says that her organization released the beheading of Stephen Sotloff video “before ISIS had a chance to” at the 1:33 mark. Did she also help Israel with the special effects on 9/11?

    Listen to her assertion ” ISIS says only we (Katz) have the video and ISIS will release it soon.

    She says ” we looked and we found”

    She found it before ISIS uploaded .

    Only we[Katz] have the video beforehand . We (Katz) released before they did. “We beat them.”

    Is she studying some other organization that released the video of beheading by ISIS before ISIS released the video ?
    She is always studying . She studies a lot . She cant keep the facts straight .

  17. KA [AKA "911"] says:

    More on Katz (SITE)

    “A few days after the pronounced death-threats, a list of over 100 Swedish companies was published which Islamists say should be punished just for being of the same nationality as Vilks. “Take revenge,” these fanatics urged. However, when journalists rang some of these companies for a comment, they were surprised. “We have received no indications of any threat,” a spokesperson of one of the companies said. In fact, it turns out, these companies haven’t received any direct threats. The list of companies, as well as the death-threats against Vilks and the editor, all originate from one source: The Search for International Terrorist Entities (SITE) Institute. Founded in 2002 by Rita Katz and Josh Devon, SITE is a Zionist propaganda institute which, among other things, offers its “Monitoring Service, which provides numerous daily translations of terrorist propaganda and multimedia from primary source terrorist websites.” Katz and Devon claims for instance that Yahoo! has become one of al-Qaeda’s most significant ideological bases of operation. Utilizing several facets of Yahoo!’s service, including chat functions, e-mail, and most importantly, Yahoo! Groups, al-Qaeda and its supporters have inserted themselves like a cancer into a company that screams, “American pop culture,” and made it as much their own as a training camp in Khost [in Afghanistan].

    When Osama Bin Laden and his gang are not using Yahoo!’s chat service, however, they spend their time surfing more protected sites. SITE brags on its first-page as being described in the following way by an author:

    “By monitoring terrorist and extremist websites and penetrating password-protected al-Qaeda linked sites, SITE provides a state-of-the-art intelligence service to both practitioners and analysts to understand the adversary.”

    It makes you wonder how the SITE Institute, with a small staff of only two people (at least no other is mentioned) can find its way into “password-protected al-Qaeda linked sites” which, apparently, the FBI and the CIA, with all its resources, seem to be incapable of finding and infiltrating. What is even more noteworthy is that SITE, in its own words, works regularly with and provides important and often unique information to journalists, law firms pursuing civil litigation, major corporations, law enforcement, U.S. Congress, and numerous federal agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security, the Treasury Department, Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS), the FBI, Customs, and the Department of Justice.”

    From—- KRISTOFFER LARSSON is a Swedish theology student occasionally commenting on political issues. He works with the Bethlehem-based International Middle East Media Center and is a Director of Deir Yassin Remembered. He appreciates constructive feedback: [email protected]

  18. KA [AKA "911"] says:

    On CNN Katz is saying something very ineteresting to question “how did your organization obtain the video”

    Katz, who ‘Found’ the Sotloff video, Caught on Camera Admitting to Her Con Job

    September 8, 2014 by ajfloyd

    Rita Katz says that her organization released the beheading of Stephen Sotloff video “before ISIS had a chance to” at the 1:33 mark. Did she also help Israel with the special effects on 9/11?

    Listen to her assertion ” ISIS says only we (Katz) have the video and ISIS will release it soon.

    She says ” we looked and we found”

    She found it before ISIS uploaded .

    Only we[Katz] have the video beforehand . We (Katz) released before they did. We beat them.

  19. KA says:
    @El Tonno

    The Deadliest Israel Lobby Conspiracy Theories

    Mainstream media awash in false accusations
    by Grant Smith, April 15, 2013

    “he Israel lobby operates on the assumption that “American politicians will always bankroll Israel.” The assumption is fueled by the lobby’s observation that most American voters are too ignorant, disenfranchised, and too busy to perceive that while Israel obviously greatly benefits from U.S. financial and diplomatic support, the U.S. pays increasingly untenable costs. The lobby relies on establishment news outlets’ self-censorship about Israel’s nuclear arsenal while advancing an unending flood of ridiculous propaganda packages, many actually crafted by paid foreign lobbyists to advance Israeli government interests. ”

    “OJ Demands Immunity for Anti-Iran Group UANI

    Posted By Grant Smith On September 14, 2014 @ 11:00 pm In Uncategorized | 1 Comment

    The U.S. Department of Justice asked a federal judge on Friday to throw out a lawsuit against the American Coalition Against Nuclear Iran, Inc., more popularly known as United Against a Nuclear Iran (UANI). Greek shipping magnate Victor Restis sued UANI last year claiming the group’s false public allegations he aided Iran’s nuclear program had cost him billions in lost revenue. Mystery surrounds precisely how the U.S. Department of Justice decided to become involved in the civil suit. Clues may be found in its most court recent filing (PDF) demanding the lawsuit be shut down. On February 14, 2014 “the Government informed the Court that the United States wished to have an opportunity to determine whether the Government had an interest in this action.” According to the court docket (PDF) through that time UANI was losing a series of key battles to dismiss the Restis lawsuit and evade standard discovery motions that would have revealed its secret sources of funding and clandestine operations to obtain sensitive information. It is likely UANI called in the government to help get the case dismissed.

    UANI clearly has a lot to hide. Its board of advisors includes the former head of a country’s foreign intelligence services in the top tier targeting the United States for economic and military secrets – Israeli Mossad’s former General Director Meir Dagan. “–

  20. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @reiner Tor

    Are “nutcases” like “racists”?

  21. Hepp says:

    Why is the US afraid to confront Saudi Arabia? Probably dread about what happens if that regime ever falls. As evil and corrupt as they are, all indications are that things can be worse.

  22. TomB says:

    Oh, think strategically people, and realistically, not conspiratorially. bin Laden hated the House of Saud even more than the U.S., so how does that square with the idea that the House is somehow dedicated to hostility to the U.S.?

    Certainly there’s some oil-related interests that favor us protecting the House of Saud, but regardless of who was in charge there, or elsewhere in the ME, they can’t drink their oil and are very fond of trading it for our dollars. And that has included both Saddam and Iran. Indeed, what do we do when we want to *punish* someone over there? We try to make it impossible for them to sell their oil.

    So what’s our other interest? Clearly there’s our instinct to want reliability/stability everywhere, no matter what, and that shouldn’t be underestimated, but beyond that we’ve liked the House of Saud because it’s been THE huge moderating arab force in the ME vis a vis Israel.

    And to fully illustrate just how important that would be to us just consider what the consequences would be if all that Saudi money over the decades had been devoted to waging conflict with Israel, not to mention funding the building of WMD’s. And then consider also the Saudi role holding back Iran.

    And then consider the impossibility of the U.S. not riding to the rescue of Israel in any major conflict it got involved in where its existence was threatened.

    With “riding to the rescue” even possibly meaning using our nukes, or approving of Israel’s use of its own.

    So what of this talk about the nefarious House of Saud?

    Clearly what the situation is there is that there is a substantial *non*-moderate population in Saudi Arabia, and a substantial *non*-moderate public sentiment that the Saudi government simply has to walk delicately around. So that while as to big big things it can be moderate, it also to some significant extent has to appease these non-moderates, which it does mostly by not cracking down on them too strongly as to this or that, keeping to religious domestic laws and etc. and so forth. And not cracking down on some of their rich who want to fund an al Queda or ISIS.

    Thus, it’s just a huge mistake to go seeing the House of Saud as being our enemy. Indeed, even seeing things in these terms (“enemy/friend”) shows a certain desire for simplicity that just doesn’t exist in foreign relations much.

    They aren’t our “friend,” that is, but no foreign power really is, so what they are is simply one HELLUVA lot better for us than the alternatives … GIVEN, that is, WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED ARE OUR INTERESTS. (As smartly or as foolishly as that has been done.)

    An illustration via a thought experiment:

    Assume you’re the President. Just whose voices would you find screaming *loudest* and *most* powerfully at you to do whatever you could to help preserve the House of Saud?

  23. KA says:

    Mr Cockburn does not beleive in conspiracy theory . But 911 was a conspircay . Who did it?
    Those very people who did Antrhax also most likely were the very people who did it.Those very people who knew about possible anthrax also knew about 911. Those who obstructed or did not follow up on anthrax clues also obstruced 911 from not happening and did not follow the clues.

    People from Inida,Pakistan,Russia,and Indonesia dont need 911 redacted page to know that Sauids are involved in terrorism . Neither does CIA.Though the level of understanding and the sources supporting those are different.Also is different is the relations. The formers are victims .CIA is the handler of Saudi terrosism.

    911 commisison is flawed to begin with .Why focus on some redacted pages? Redo it.

  24. pyrrhus says:

    The Bushes are Rockefelller servants, so of course they covered up the Saudi role in 9-11. Osama was clever enough to capitalize on that.

  25. Jim says:

    The US government supports in a big way, the two biggest troublemakers in the world – Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    Both are ancient tribal societies with ancient attitudes to their fellow humans. Neither respect the lives of their neighbors.

    How can this be – how can these two mean spirited foreign cultures control the US government – America the creator of modern democracy is supporting and fostering the exact opposite of what it itself was born to be?

    This is sick – will the American people ever wake up? There is only one way out of this —- voting!

  26. KA says:

    Apart from the issues raised by the two articles above one likely possibility is that the planning of the events took place ,most likely over a period of times including during Clinton era . Bush family obviously was not in a position to thwart the intelligence or block the intelligence services from taking any actions against those hijackers .

    Second question how the other WTC buildings ( 5 or. 6) despite bring in the same environment as was WTC 7 ,survive and did not collapse from whatever reason the bldg 7 did.

  27. KA says:

    “More sophisticated policy analysts have read Seymour Hersh’s July 28, 2003 New Yorker article (“The Syrian Bet”), which details Syria’s unreciprocated cooperation with US intelligence. In one instance, according to Hersh, “Syrians learned that Al Qaeda had penetrated the security services of Bahrain and had arranged for a glider loaded with explosives to be flown into a building at the U.S. Navy’s 5th fleet headquarters.” Former National Security Council staffer Flynt Leverett also confirmed to Hersh that Syria “let us thwart an operation that, if carried out, would have killed a lot of Americans.”

    “Just as US Administration officials began to recognize Syrian contributions in support of Bush’s war on terror, AIPAC undermined their statements in a July 31, 2002 Memo:”

    “A September 5, 2002 document, “Working to Secure Israel: The Pro-Israel Community’s Legislative Goals,” later confirmed AIPAC’s intention to “sanction Syria for its continuing support of terrorism” by working “with Congress to pass the Syria Accountability Act.”

    Sure enough, in November 2003, AIPAC successfully convinced an overwhelming majority in Congress to pass the has a “remarkable system,” said Paul Weyrich, head of the extreme right wing Free Congress Foundation. “If you vote with them, or make a public statement they like, they get the word out fast through their own publications and through editors around the country who are sympathetic to their cause…If you say something they don’t like, you can be denounced or censured through the same network. That kind of pressure is bound to affect Senators’ thinking, especially if they are wavering or need support.”

    Saul Landau ( at that time was a teacher Cal Poly Ponoma University)

    It is obvious that US ignores the atrocious actions by friends and ignores the goodwill and coeration from the enemies .
    One wonders where would ISIS have been today if Syria were handled according to the national interests of US.
    By allowing Israel to dictate what US should do or shouldn’t do ,US has been forced to engage in balancing acts of listening to Saudis and Jordanian in a hope that a calamity planned and forced by Israel could be somehow prevented by listening to some other players in the region.

  28. KA says:

    It is time to recap some of the developments in last 10 yrs or so in Syria.

    Last year it was Oren”“The greatest danger to Israel is by the strategic arc that extends from Tehran, to Damascus to Beirut. And we saw the Assad regime as the keystone in that arc,” Oren said. “We always wanted Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran.” He said this was the case even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated with al-Qaeda.”
    IsIs will still be here without any Saudi input . Hamas was not created by Saudi.

  29. Here is part of one of my old articles from Sanders Research: “Spooks in Congress” where CIA officer Bob Graham is uncovered, so his comments must be suspect:

    Many Americans grumble that the U.S. Congress lacks the courage to exert its constitutional role by challenging abuses of the Bush administration. They may be interested in knowing how Congressmen are selected before they are elected. Even before party primaries begin, powerful groups select their favorites and back them with money and media support. One of the most powerful groups in the USA is the “intelligence community” that operates from secret budgets estimated at $44 billion a year. One must assume that they might use their influence and money to insert spooks into Congress to serve their needs.

    This has already happened, as this debate in the halls of Congress revealed:

    Congressional Record: June 23, 2004

    WASHINGTON, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 23, 2004 House of Representatives

    [Excerpt from Page H4866]

    Mr. SIMMONS. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to my friend and distinguished colleague, the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Kirk), who is also a naval intelligence officer.

    Mr. KIRK. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the Simmons amendment. Unlike some other amendments in this bill that are offered for partisan advantage, this amendment is offered by a former CIA officer with detailed knowledge of how the U.S. intelligence community works. To my knowledge, there are only three current Members of Congress who work with the CIA: our chairman, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss), the author of this amendment; the gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. Simmons); and me, who is detailed to the CIA from navy intelligence.

    To clarify this exchange, former CIA officer Congressmen Robert Simmons (R-CT) tells the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, former CIA officer Congressmen Porter Goss (R-FL), that he would like to yield one minute to CIA agent Congressmen Mark Kirk (R-IL). Kirk rose to support an amendment to the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2005 to allow CIA agents access to “open records” of Americans; e.g. telephone call records, bank and credit card records, and airline travel records. Since CIA agents never really retire, is it just a coincidence when three CIA agents help give the CIA greater legal snooping authority?

    Congressmen Simmons’ political career is not unusual, having served as a member of the Connecticut General Assembly for 10 years. However, Simmons won election to Congress in a mostly Democratic state. Moreover, he began the campaign with little name recognition outside his New London area-based district, and was considered a long shot since beating an incumbent in Congress is considered nearly impossible. He retained close ties to the CIA after his short ten- year “career,” having also served as an Army intelligence officer, the senior staffer on the Senate Intelligence committee, which oversees CIA activities, and later taught classes on military intelligence at Yale.

    Congressmen Porter Goss graduated from Yale, served as an intelligence officer in the U.S. Army, and then became a CIA clandestine services officer. Ten years later, he retired early due to illness and moved to Florida to accept an appointment to fill a vacant spot as a county commissioner. No one has ever explained why the Democratic Governor of Florida at the time, Bob Graham, appointed an “ill” Republican from Connecticut with no local government experience to a county position in south Florida. Goss somehow accumulated a lot of money to run for Congress, was elected and eventually became chairman of the House Intelligence committee, which oversees CIA activities. His counterpart in the US Senate is Bob Graham, the man who gave the sickly Goss his Florida appointment and later became a senator, and is now chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. According to Carl Hulse of the New York Times in his 2-17-02 article, Goss and Graham were together on the morning of the 9-11 terror attack, meeting with the chief of the Pakistani intelligence service, whom they had met while traveling together to the region a few weeks earlier.

  30. KA says:

    ISIS was anticipated by the neocons .It was eagerly hoped for by them .Bush administration was warned but they ignored it .It is ironic it was the same Bush administration that ignored the 911 warnings .

  31. KA [AKA "911"] says:

    “The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom recently remarked, “by any measure the U.S. has long used terrorism. In 1978-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the U.S. would be in violation.”

  32. Sam J. says:

    This is disinformation, smoke and mirrors. The Israelis are desperate to pin 911 on anyone but them. Senator Graham is completely in Israeli pockets. The Israelis did 911. Truther, nutcase, conspiracy nut; explain this.

    Building #7, not hit by a plane, fell at the same speed as a bowling ball dropped in the air next to it for 108 feet. No resistance. All four corners falling at close to the same rate. This is impossible. Not improbable, not unlikely, impossible. Even melted steel has some resistance. If you had magically suspended the floors of building #7 and placed marshmellows in between them then dropped the floors the building would have fallen slower than it did.. There’s enormous amounts of evidence that 911 was an inside job. The crazy post about nukes and laser beams are disinformation to cover the crime. Somebody screwed up. Not sure who/what. Maybe building #7 was supposed to fall when the other towers did or when the plane hit but it didn’t.

    911 was directly responsible for me becoming wise about the Jews, their behavior and their responsibility for the hastening destruction of my country. They’ve been thrown out of every single country they’ve gone to. Hundreds of times. Why? If you keep one single idea in mind you’ll never again be surprised by the behavior of the Jews again. They are a tribe of psychopaths. Not all Jews. Not even most but the ones in charge that drive Jewish tribal behavior are. 911 was a operation to embroil the US in the Middle East and destroy Israels enemies. Psychopaths are insatiable schemers and lairs. Who else but a psychopath could do such a ridiculous thing? The whole absurd psycho-ops is falling apart and heading for disaster. The arrogance of psychopaths is also well know. There’s even a word for it, chutzpah. 911 will eventually be the ruin of the Jews. The Middle East will not be tamed by their crazed ops, Americans are not going to give up their weapons no matter what you do and if you try to take over this country by force like you did Russia I wouldn’t be surprised if every last Jew on the planet was hunted down and exterminated.

  33. KA says:

    The love fest between Saudi and the imperial power runs deep and stays invisible to the naked eyes of the vice police of Saudi and the US department of Justice or to the culture of the Shining City on the Hill.

  34. KA says:

    “President Obama was given detailed and specific intelligence about the rise of the Islamic State as part of his daily briefing for at least a year before the group seized large swaths of territory over the summer, a former Pentagon official told Fox News.

    So it is reasoanable to convlude that for whatever reason US decided to ignore the danger it was not out of deference to Saudi or not out of lack of information. Neither the Saudi reluctance could have been a constraint factor when Maliki was asking to send mi,ovary back to Iraq last year.

    Ma Cain knew Los that the Northern Front who he met innTurkey border was no saint and was intimately involved with ISIS who was already at that time killing the not so radical volunteer and leaders .

  35. KA says:

    Israel is in close contacts with the terrorists . Washington should pursue Israel as it does go after the terrorists .

    “This is implied in a secret file recently leaked by a person(s) apparently close to the Israeli Minister of Foreign Affairs Avigdor Lieberman. It contains a record of conversations between Bibi Netanyahu, Avigdor Lieberman and Russian President Vladimir Putin during the latter’s recent visit to Israel. Israelis seem to have no doubts about its authenticity. Counterpunch received the original file, and here are the highlights of this conversation (in our translation from Hebrew):

    Netanyahu asked Putin to facilitate Bashar Assad’s departure. “You can appoint his successor, and we shall not object , said the Israeli Prime Minister. “There is one condition – the successor must break with Iran».
    Putin responded: we have no candidate for Bashar’s successor. Do you?
    No, we don’t, replied Netanyahu, but we shall tell you our preference soon.

    Apparently, Israel can influence the rebels, inasmuch as it can bear on them to accept a successor acceptable to Tel Aviv. This means that the rebels’ chain of command goes beyond unruly field commanders, beyond Qatar and Saudi Arabia, beyond Paris and Washington, all the way to Israel. It is well known that the rebels seekfriendship with Israel, but nobody thought that Israel was able to control them to such an extent”

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