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When I first visited Israel in 1976 after spending three years in Northern Ireland working on my second degree, I was struck by the similarities between the situations in the two countries.

It is therefore entirely appropriate that on the same day that the Israeli-Palestinian crisis was exploding this week, an inquest in Belfast was reporting on a mass killing by the British Army in Belfast half a century earlier.

This was what became known as the Ballymurphy Massacre which took place between 9 and 11 August 1971, when 10 Catholics were shot and killed in the working-class district of Ballymurphy in west Belfast. The British government and army claimed for years that the dead were IRA gunmen or had been throwing petrol bombs. But the inquest determined this week that all the dead were innocent civilians – and the army’s actions were “unjustified”. Boris Johnson has apologised unreservedly for the killings.

An important parallel between Northern Ireland then and Israel/Gaza today is that, in both cases, grossly excessive military force was and is used to try to solve political problems that it only succeeds in exacerbating. In the case of the Ballymurphy shootings, which took place during the introduction of internment without trial, the British government managed only to delegitimise itself, to spread hatred against itself and to act as the recruiting sergeant for the Provisional IRA.

As in Northern Ireland half a century ago, the Israeli security services keep announcing that they are winning famous victories and killing enemy commanders, as if local leaders of the rag-tag paramilitary forces of Hamas and Islamic Jihad were irreplaceable military technicians. Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu says that Hamas and Islamic Jihad “will pay a heavy price for their belligerence.” No doubt they will, but the heaviest price will be paid by civilians in Gaza, like in the last such conflict in 2014 when 2,000 Palestinians and 73 Israelis were killed in a ‘war’ lasting 67 days.

In some respects, not much has changed since then, but that in itself is significant because Donald Trump was the most pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian president ever to occupy the White House. He and his son-in-law Jared Kushner enthusiastically endorsed Netanyahu’s thesis that Israel can achieve a lasting peace while at the same time keeping the Palestinians in a permanently subordinate position as a defeated people.

That was never going to work, but the speed with which it has unravelled over the last week, and within months of Trump leaving office, is still surprising. The ‘Palestinian question’, what one British diplomat used to call “the poison of Palestine”, is back on the international agenda, as unresolved and explosive as it has been for the last hundred years.

Perhaps the biggest effect of the hype and spin of the Trump era was to breed self-destructive hubris among Israelis at all levels of authority. Israeli officials felt free to expand settlements on the West Bank, evict Palestinians in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood of Jerusalem, and order the police to throw stun grenades and use tear gas around the Al-Aqsa mosque.

In one respect, the crisis is already more intense and wide-ranging than in past ‘wars’ centred on Gaza in 2008/9 and in 2014. The new element is the involvement of the two million Israeli Arabs/Palestinians who make up 20 per cent of the Israeli population. In mixed towns and cities like Lod, Jaffa, Acre and Haifa, synagogues and mosques, shops and cars, have been attacked and individuals beaten. In Lod, for instance, where the rioting has been most intense and is right next to Ben Gurion airport, the population is made up of 47,000 Israeli Jews and 23,00 Israeli Arabs/Palestinians.

The similarity between Israel and Northern Ireland goes beyond an exaggerated and counter-productive use of military superiority to solve a political problem. At the most fundamental level, both countries contain two hostile communities of roughly equal size living intertwined in a small place.

In Northern Ireland, Catholics and Protestants each number about one million, while in the more politically fragmented area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea live 14 million people, seven million of them Israeli Jews and seven million Palestinians. The area may be divided by fortified walls and frontiers, but it is essentially a single political unit, as the spread of violence from Jerusalem to Gaza to Israel and to the West Bank has demonstrated in the last few days.

In Northern Ireland in 1971, the British government made the disastrous mistake of using the British Army to prop up what was sometimes called “the Orange State”. This meant that Catholics would have to accept a second-class status in a state run by Protestants, something that – regardless of their acceptance or rejection of physical force – the Catholics were never going to do.

The determination of the Catholic community not to roll over should have been obvious from day one of The Troubles, but it took the British government thirty years to take this on board. When it finally did so the outcome was the Good Friday Agreement of 1998 which shared power between two communities with very different identities, culture and loyalties.

It would be nice to think that the same process might one day happen in when it comes to Israel and Palestinians, but there are differences as well as similarities between the two situations. Compromise in Northern Ireland required a certain balance of power between the two communities and a recognition by all, particularly by the British government and by Irish Republicans, that neither side was going to win a complete victory.

Holding back any such compromise between Israel and the Palestinians is that the balance of power appears to be overwhelmingly in favour of Israelis. They do not feel the need to compromise because they have total military superiority and the support of the United States and other powerful nations.

ORDER IT NOW

Palestinian weaknesses, several of them self-inflicted, include very poor leadership and political organisation. Hamas can fire lots of rockets into Israel in a show of defiance, but this is politically counter-productive since it enables Israel to frame its actions as defensive and part of a war on terror. The Palestinian National Authority based in Ramallah hasn’t held an election for 15 years, with the latest attempt being postponed indefinitely last month — and is now deeply compromised as a representative of its people.

The best strategy for the Palestinians should be to use their great numbers in a peaceful mass campaign demanding civil right and an end to discriminatory restrictions.

The Palestinians do hold a card of the highest value, which is that Israel will not have won until the Palestinians declare that they have lost. The events of last week showed that this is not going to happen. Israel wins trick after trick at the political and military card table but can never be declared the winner because it is playing a game that does not end.

(Republished from The Independent by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. A123 says:

    The Palestinian National Authority based in Ramallah hasn’t held an election for 15 years, with the latest attempt being postponed indefinitely last month — and is now deeply compromised as a representative of its people.

    The best strategy for the Palestinians should be to use their great numbers in a peaceful mass campaign demanding civil right and an end to discriminatory restrictions.

    You are correct that the Muslim Occupiers in Judea and Samaria need better leadership to negotiate in good faith. The situation is currently frozen by Muslim Elites (Fatah) and Iranian Proxies (Hamas) who dominate the political landscape. These Islamic War Criminals will use any mass campaign as human shields for violence. For example, Hamas dresses combatants in medical white using the “border marches” as cover to assault Jewish Palestine (a.k.a. Israel).

    Hamas has destroyed the aquifer under Gaza. Objective science indicates that without fresh water, 1.5-2.0 MM will be on the move. Facing another lost generation & insurmountable physical hardship, many parents will take their children and leave. Compensation could be negotiated as part of peacefully ending the Islamic occupation. The right figure could lead Muslims out of Palestine, and help them return homeland of their faith.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: UNIT472
    • Disagree: gleongelpi
    • Troll: Alfred
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Angharad
    , @MEexpert
    , @Alfred
  2. The best strategy for the Palestinians should be to use their great numbers in a peaceful mass campaign demanding civil right and an end to discriminatory restrictions.

    This is what they did in the 2018-2019 Gaza border protest and 183 were killed and 9,204 wounded.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, gleongelpi
    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  3. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    The problem was initiated by attempts to enter the masjid and occupy by large numbers of settler -garrison state dwellers supported by police court and politicians . It was brewing for a whiel again and was given a new lease of life by teh Government of Israel when it cut off the electricity supply to the masjid and ban entry of people and allowed the settelrs fanatics to throng the masjid.

    Peace to putrid .

  4. ruralguy says:

    It’s all a game, .. a deadly game in which neither the Israelis, the Palestinians, nor the Hamas cooperate with each other.

    At the end of WW2, the allies (excepting the Soviets) wanted to replace the violence used to settle disputes in WW1 and WW2, with laws, a science for resolving disputes, to settle the land and governance issues throughout the world. But, the allies couldn’t resist the temptation to play the sanctimonious victim, using the Nuremberg trials as a victors court to prove Germany committed crimes against humanity. But, the interesting part of the Court proceedings was the gradual loosening of the standards for rules of evidence. They were not able to find sufficient evidence under existing western rules of evidence to gain a conviction, so they agreed with the Soviet approach to just eliminate the rules of evidence, as the trial proceeded. By the conclusion of the trial, the U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Stone was disgusted with the whole thing, calling it a fraud and a lynching party, to satisfy the sanctimonious actors.

    So, the allies decided to give up on using law to settle disputes, preferring to play politics and deadly games, just like the Palestinians and the Israelis.

  5. I think in both cases the supremacist community in question tried to take too much land when they established their state. N.I. incorporated far too many Irish Catholics and had no natural boundaries. The Orangemen should have accepted a state half the size and reduced the Catholics to a small minority. Also Israel should have never taken over the west bank and should have accepted less land for fewer Arabs.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Jake
  6. ruralguy @ 4

    “U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Stone was disgusted with the whole thing, calling it a fraud and a lynching party, to satisfy the sanctimonious actors.”

    Well not quite so. You’ve omitted that Associate Justice Robert Jackson was the chief architect of the Nuremberg Trials.

    And one shouldn’t take Stone’s off the cuff indictment of the Nuremberg trials at face value because though he once referred to the Nuremberg trials as a “high-grade lynching party” he also wrote privately in November 1945 that it would not disturb him greatly if the allies simply executed the German defendants, he just did not think it should be done through a trial setting.

    Moreover there is evidence that Stone was perturbed that Justice Jackson didn’t ask his permission before accepting President Truman’s appointment as Chief U.S. Prosecutor. And with Justice Jackson on leave of absence as Chief U.S. Prosecutor Stone had to help take up the slack and he was angry that his workload was somewhat increased.

    The Nuremberg Trials were certainly not a “high-grade lynching party” as not all of the defendants were executed and three of the defendants were acquitted and four were given prison terms. Justice Stone’s remarks should be taken with a grain of salt.

  7. SafeNow says:

    If the Man from Outer Space appeared with unlimited free money, would there be a monetary fix for all of this? Just a thought experiment.

  8. Angharad says:
    @A123

    JEWS are the problem. Not the Muslims. Palestine is their homeland. JEWS NEED TO LEAVE. THE EARTH.

    • Troll: AKAHorace
    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  9. The best strategy for the Palestinians should be to use their great numbers in a peaceful mass campaign demanding civil right and an end to discriminatory restrictions.

    LOL! That only works in white countries.

  10. TG says:

    I am not a great fan of the Israeli government, and in particular I despise seeing elected officials of the United States publicly swearing higher loyalty to Israel than to their own country (yes really), but in this specific case, the Israelis have a point.

    The Palestinians have enormous numbers of children, left unchecked their population would soon swamp Israel and wipe them the Israelis off the face of the earth. Israel has no choice: stop the Palestinians, corral them and control their numbers by limiting their access to resources, or be annihilated. The Israelis have chosen not to be annihilated (though I do wish they would allow the United States the same right of self-defense).

    Why are the Egyptians as brutal in stopping Palestinians escaping the Gaza Strip as the Israelis are? Because the Egyptians have more than enough poverty as it is, thank you very much.

    Look at what all those Palestinian refugees have done to Jordan – and now Jordan is desperately trying to prevent them from getting citizenship and throw up other borders, indeed even as the United States is not allowed to police its own border, it is spending money to help Jordan build a wall to keep additional Palestinians out!

    And while there are apparently ‘only’ about 500,000 Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, that hasn’t worked out so well for Lebanon, either. For example, according to wikipedia, the devastating 1975 civil war was to a great extent caused by Palestinians moving into South Lebanon.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
    , @sher singh
    , @rgl
    , @Ace
  11. torch man says:

    It is the zionists who are the occupiers, they really should go to NJ, Florida, NY, Germany, UK, etc. where they are generally more accepted, nay even given privileged status. Like they were chosen.

  12. MEexpert says:
    @A123

    You are correct that the Muslim Occupiers in Judea and Samaria need better leadership to negotiate in good faith. The situation is currently frozen by Muslim Elites (Fatah) and Iranian Proxies (Hamas) who dominate the political landscape.

    And you are completely off base. You can spin it any way you want. The world knows who the occupier is, the criminal regime of Israel, aka the US proxy. The election was postponed under pressure from Israel and the US by their stooge Mahmood Abbas.

    Hamas has destroyed the aquifer under Gaza. Objective science indicates that without fresh water, 1.5-2.0 MM will be on the move.

    And Hamas also infiltrated the Israel military and started bombing Gaza to get world sympathy. Compensation could be negotiated as part of peacefully ending the Islamic occupation.

    The right figure could lead Muslims out of Palestine and help them return homeland of their faith.

    How can you even look at yourself in the mirror after writing these blatant lies?

    • Agree: rgl, RadicalCenter
  13. MEexpert says:
    @TG

    The Palestinians have enormous numbers of children, left unchecked their population would soon swamp Israel and wipe them the Israelis off the face of the earth. Israel has no choice: stop the Palestinians, corral them and control their numbers by limiting their access to resources, or be annihilated. The Israelis have chosen not to be annihilated (though I do wish they would allow the United States the same right of self-defense).

    Is this your version of Israeli self-defense? To annihilate the Palestinians before they annihilate the Israelis. No one has the right to impose control of any kind on other people. Israel is arrogant and a bully supported by another bully, who did the same thing to the Indians.

    Look at what all those Palestinian refugees have done to Jordan – and now Jordan is desperately trying to prevent them from getting citizenship and throw up other borders, indeed even as the United States is not allowed to police its own border, it is spending money to help Jordan build a wall to keep additional Palestinians out!

    But the Palestinians are not the refugees in their homeland. The Jews are the occupiers of their land and should rightly be kicked out of it. You would do the same to someone who moved in your home.

  14. MEexpert says:

    Israel wins trick after trick at the political and military card table but can never be declared the winner because it is playing a game that does not end.

    Patrick needs to go way back in history to learn what the Israelis (Jews) are doing. An indication was given by one of the settlers’ sign saying KHYBER. Every time the Jews have lost, it is to the Shiah Muslims. Most recently by Hezbollah. But the Khyber reference goes back to the 7th century loss to Prophet Muhammad forces and especially to his commander and Cousin Ali ibn Abi Talib, the Shiah imam, who defeated the Jews at the fort of Khyber. Ironically, at Khyber, the Jews were depending on the heavy IRON GATE of the fort to keep the Muslim forces away, just as the Israeli Jews are depending on the IRON DOME to keep the Muslim missiles away. It did not work then, and it will not work now. The Jews are trying to avenge the defeat at the hands of Ali. In the end Israel will lose.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
  15. @Angharad

    “Beautiful Gomez—the USA has again backed Israel with advanced weapons and wiping the table of these Palestinians….” and with this the Grim Reaper was tossed from our residence ==by Lurch.

  16. Sean says:

    An important parallel between Northern Ireland then and Israel/Gaza today is that, in both cases, grossly excessive military force was and is used to try to solve political problems that it only succeeds in exacerbating.

    Is there any such thing as excessive military force? The army is a killing machine, and was in Northern Ireland because a minority of the people there objected to the police force , which was unable to cope with the resultant disorder , which was the fault of Loyalists as well as Republicans. The mini government and its police force of NI were destabilized, and from what I have read the British government stepped in as much to protect Catholics as anything.

    In Northern Ireland in 1971, the British government made the disastrous mistake of using the British Army to prop up what was sometimes called “the Orange State”. This meant that Catholics would have to accept a second-class status in a state run by Protestants, something that – regardless of their acceptance or rejection of physical force – the Catholics were never going to do

    Britain does not want to hold onto NI it doesn’t, but the Unionists/Loyalists are in a voting majority, not as great a voting majority as during the Troubles but a majority in a one man one vote democracy nonetheless. Not always that easy to control soldiers (who are trained to shoot people) when faced with people demonstrating in support of Republicanism, which is paramilitary in nature. There were gunmen around but the soldiers tended to shoot who they could see, who were the wrong people usually. It has been questioned whether Northern Ireland is a “problem” to be solved or more accurately characterized as a conflict, which means by its nature NI will not have a solution, but merely an outcome as with all other conflicts.

    The best strategy for the Palestinians should be to use their great numbers in a peaceful mass campaign demanding civil rights and an end to discriminatory restrictions.

    That strategy worked in NI to get the province’s civil government ended and the police subordinated to the British army, which was brought in to protect the resisting areas, which later on led to shooting of demonstrators from those areas against the army being there. Not an improvement, or maybe it was, because it was Bloody Sunday ECT that created the greatest amount of support for Republicanism.

    In some respects, not much has changed since then, but that in itself is significant because Donald Trump was the most pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian president ever to occupy the White House. He and his son-in-law Jared Kushner enthusiastically endorsed Netanyahu’s thesis that Israel can achieve a lasting peace while at the same time keeping the Palestinians in a permanently subordinate position as a defeated people.

    Does Israel want peace? I think the current situation suits them, which is why they keep it going. The Palestinians are useful in many ways, especially to keep Jews identifying as such, being a people under threat. Externally, Iran as a threat fulfills a similar function for Israel inasmuch as it keeps the country and its Lobby in the US cohesive in the face of a much exaggerated threat. What Northern Ireland and Israel have in common is there are a lot of people there in a voting majority that were born there and consider it their homeland. The Occupied Territories are a little bit different, for now. Incidentally, the status of the OC before they were taken by Israel was not really recognized by anyone but the British.

    • Disagree: Pheasant
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  17. “ The current violence throughout Israel/Palestine is an outcome of the apartheid regime that controls the entire area. Under this regime, about half of the people who live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea – Jews – are able to lead full lives and enjoy protection of their human rights, while the other half – Palestinians – cannot. The appalling street violence we are seeing is heartbreaking, terrifying and must be forcefully condemned. Any violence against civilians is absolutely reprehensible. Yet the violence runs deeper than what can be captured on camera. The range of measures the Israeli regime employs to ensure Jewish supremacy throughout the area is inherently violent. Airstrikes, shooting and stun grenades are visible, while the laws, military orders, bureaucrats, policy makers and judges who uphold the system remain mostly invisible. “Restoring order” means that Jews will go back to their peaceful lives, while Palestinians continue to live under a boot: subjected to constant, relentless violence that is invisible to Jews. A reality that is based on organized violence is not only immoral – it is a danger to us all. That is why the Universal Declaration of Human Rights proclaimed, in 1948: “It is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected…” We are all entitled to live under a regime that ensures justice and quality for both peoples. A regime that allows all the human beings who live here to exercise their right to life, to security, and to the freedom to create, learn, dream and love. We all desire life. For every single one of us.”
    B’Tselem

  18. @Commentator Mike

    This is what they did in the 2018-2019 Gaza border protest and 183 were killed and 9,204 wounded.

    Agreed. (Don’t have any “agree”s left to give.)

    I’m not sure what kind of world Cockburn is inhabiting. I’d never claim the Palestinian leadership is infallible, but he seems oblivious to the role that Israel plays in controlling the PA:

    Seriously, does he not read news like this?

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/military-liaison-israel-should-end-security-ties-with-pa-if-hamas-wins-election/

    Israel’s outgoing military liaison to the Palestinians said Thursday that Jerusalem should halt all of its security coordination with the Palestinians if the Hamas terror group prevails in next month’s Palestinian legislative election, as looks increasingly likely.

    “We will stop everything,” Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories head Kamil Abu Rukun said in an interview with the Kan public broadcaster. “That, at least, will be my recommendation, based on things that happened in the past and on what I see in the field.”

    And what are Palestinians supposed to do when Israel’s government green lights crimes committed against them day in and day out? Lay down and die?

    How is any of this “self-inflicted”?

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
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  19. joe2.5 says:

    Cockburn sounds stupider and stupider:

    The best strategy for the Palestinians should be to use their great numbers in a peaceful mass campaign demanding civil right and an end to discriminatory restrictions

    This guy doesn’t seem to live in this world. What else have the Palestinians been doing all these years?
    Or perhaps he was born yesterday night and that’s why he even missed the Big Turkey Shoot of peaceful demonstrations for civil rights year before last in Gaza, with 300+ peaceful demonstrators, medicos and journalists killed and thousands maimed only for doing what Cockburn recommends — with bupkis result because, as he said, the invader is part of the Empire.
    Such guys are the most dangerous propagandists for Zionism.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  20. Pheasant says:
    @Sean

    Pathetic

    ‘Is there any such thing as excessive military force? ‘

    Shooting thirteen unarmed civillians while the organisation you said was shooting at you did not in fact exist at the time might be considered excessive.

    ‘was in Northern Ireland because a minority of the people there objected to the police force , which was unable to cope with the resultant disorder’

    The army originally went in there to protect catholics against protestant pogroms. The army should not have been used to prop up a sectarian state.

    ‘Not always that easy to control soldiers (who are trained to shoot people) when faced with people demonstrating in support of Republicanism’

    True it is not always easy to control soldiers but it is very easy not to send the toughest soldiers in the British army to go rough up people demonstrating in favour of civil rights (remember bloody sunday is what caused the provisional IRA to come into being).

    ‘That strategy worked in NI to get the province’s civil government ended and the police subordinated to the British army’

    Local rule was abolished but London rule did not equate to getting rid of a sectarian state. There was an early attempt in the sunningdale agreement but blame protestant nutcases and the British deep state for derailing it.

    ‘What Northern Ireland and Israel have in common is there are a lot of people there in a voting majority that were born there and consider it their homeland’

    As Arlene Foster said she would leave Northern Ireland if a united Ireland ever happened. Most Jews do not live in Israel and anyone who can leave those places for greener pastures do because both places suffer from massive brain-drain.

    What a pitiful attempt to re-write history.

    • Replies: @Sean
  21. ruralguy says:
    @Lawrence Miller

    Good points about Stone. At first, Churchill was also in favor of executing the German leaders, without a trial.

    What these “leaders” failed to understand was the Nuremberg trial was a missed opportunity to rationally analyze the war using the probative rigor of a trial. Instead they chose to believe their own propaganda and biases, charging the axis leaders with crimes against humanity, then altering the rules of evidence as the trail proceeded, to align the results with the allied victors’ view. If the trial proceeded with the proper probative rigor, it would likely have shown the severe failing of both the allies and axis leaders in their ability to govern in a civilized way.

    The situation is no different than today. The U.S. is failing, but there is no rational recourse to solve the problem. In the aftermath of WW2, there was a effort to change this, but it failed.

  22. UNIT472 says:

    I don’t see the “Palestinians” as being analogous to the Israeli’s. They are more like the Iroquois Indians in Colonial America. A defeated people who have no choice but to make terms as best they can with a superior civilization.

    The Iroquois could at least fend for themselves but the Palestinians can’t even do that. They are utterly dependent on foreign assistance for everything in a world where ‘foreign assistance’ is fast running out. They need to capitulate and accept that Hamas and Hezbollah will never be able keep the Israeli Air Force from doing what it wants to them.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain, rgl
  23. Allan says:

    It’s misleading to say that the Israelites are making the same errors as the British on Ireland. The situations and motivations are quite dissimilar, as anyone can see by comparing their historical backgrounds.

    The British presence on Ireland is a legacy of piecemeal activity commenced before Henry’s rebellion againt the papacy. Inertia could have kept the British (or English, really) on Ireland, but they clung to the land also for sectarian reasons, for national pride, and probably due to pecuniary motives of well-connected English elites. The Israelites’ presence in the so-called Holy Land, however, is a great imperialist project to restore cryptocanaanites to regional power, and, later, to become a world power. This faction, comprised of descendants of the Atenists (so to speak) of Phoenecia, have a nazism which puts them at the top of humanity and demands submission from everyone on Earth.

    Their religion also stipulates their control over a patch of land which cannot be shared by two large factions of peoples—one the self-appointed priesthood of all humanity, and the other (mostly) the adherents of a heretical Arabist cult. The Canaanites, if they are to be true to their own history, have only one direction to move: removal of the Palestinians who can’t be reabsorbed into the nation. (Genetic research is ongoing and shows some shared Canaanite ancestry.) Thus when Hamas or some other resistance group fires a barrage of rockets at the cryptocanaanites, the Phoenicians reasonably see it as an opportunity to move their project forward. The uprising of Arabs now in many parts of Israel will simply add a sense of urgency to plans to remove all of them. The game does have an end.

    Probably Cockburn is too fixated upon the Peel plan of 1937 or the UN partition plan of 1947. He needs to loosen up a little. Those plans were intended to be points of departure, at least from Israel’s POV, so it’s more than a little naive to construe them as expectations for fixed political realities to endure ever after. The Arab state proposed in the UN plan would have been a patchwork, hardly the stuff of a stable, coherent polity for a people who are basically inert, anyway, thanks to their fatalist sect. And again, the cryptocanaanites’ nationalism calls for possession of a contiguous parcel of land. According to one version of scripture, that land extends from a wadi on the Sinai Peninsula to the Euphrates. Any hostile, disruptive people in the way will have to be shoved aside; sentimental humanist ideas about rights are just gadflies to be endured grudgingly along the way. Furthermore, it does not matter now that Israel was established by secularists and communists. Those people are the past. So Cockburn will be much less frustrated if he just recognizes the project for what it is and changes his imagination accordingly.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
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  24. Peaceful Palestinian mass demonstrators would simply be slaughtered, as so often in the past. When your tormentor regards you as human dust, insects without value, and themselves as ‘Gods Upon the Earth’, and see killing you, even your children, as a blessed act, a mitzvah, there is no hope. This will end, indeed MUST end given the nature of Zionazism and Talmudic Judaism, in genocide, expulsion or eternal imprisonment in ever smaller imitations of the Warsaw Ghetto.

  25. @Allan

    There are other versions of Eretz Yisrael that claim the Arabian Peninsula, too. Zionazism will only be halted the way that German Nazism was. Good luck with that.

  26. @UNIT472

    At least you are a honestly filthy Zionazi racist. No different from any German Nazi, c.1942. Look forward to seeing you in 1945.

  27. The comparison between the situation in Northern Ireland and Israel Palestine is not very apt. Firstly, all the people in Northern Ireland have the same ancestry and culture, the only difference is that they follow different sects of Christianity. In Israel you have a people who came from Europe and invaded a country that has had the same people living in it since Roman times. The only similarity is that the US has been the source of money (unofficially) for the Catholics in Ireland and (officially) for the Jews in Israel.

  28. MEexpert says:
    @UNIT472

    They need to capitulate and accept that Hamas and Hezbollah will never be able keep the Israeli Air Force from doing what it wants to them.

    For people who have been imprisoned and watched 24 hours by its enemy, it is a victory that Hamas is bombarding Israel with home-made rockets in spite of the high-tech Iron-Dome.

    As to Hezbollah, they don’t have to prove anything. They have already done that in 2006 by defeating the multibillion-dollar army and air force. Even Hamas, after been bombarded relentlessly for 57 days in 2014, is back firing rockets at Israel. So, who won?

  29. sher singh [AKA "Jatt Aryaa"] says:
    @TG

    Israelis (jews) have higher TFR than all but Gaza.

  30. Daniel H says:
    @MEexpert

    But the Khyber reference goes back to the 7th century loss to Prophet Muhammad forces and especially to his commander and Cousin Ali ibn Abi Talib, the Shiah imam, who defeated the Jews at the fort of Khyber.

    Nothing in the Koran is corroborated by outside sources. Muhammad likely didn’t exist, neither did the first four “Rightly Guided” caliphs. There were no holy cities of Mecca and Medina. The first historically verified caliphs honored Christian and Zoroastrian icons. The first 100 years of Islamic history is a melange of folk lore and artful editing, whereas the biography of Muhammad and the Hadiths are utter, 100% fiction.

    • Agree: rgl
    • Replies: @MEexpert
    , @anonymous
  31. Jake says:
    @anonymouseperson

    The Orangemen did not create the borders of Norther Ireland. The English did, and they chose as they did precisely to make the point that they would retain a stranglehold over all of Ireland and use it whenever they wanted to.

    Various Irish nationalists over the decades suggested a plebiscite by county and voting district within each county to decide which parts of Northern Ireland would be ruled from London and which from Dublin. The English were never going to allow that.

    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
  32. You know it’s kind of ironic…actually, a “coinkydink” if you know what I mean…that all this war crapola started as Benny the Yahoo was about to be kicked out of the Prime Minister-ship because some Palestinian opposition leader (I forgot his name and party but it wasn’t Joint List) lead the “overthrow” of Benny boy in league with Likud’s main opposition party! Add to that (as Ron Paul and various Israeli truth tellers have stated) the fact that Hamas was aided originally in the 80s by ISRAEL (during the First Intifada) as a counterweight to Arafat’s PLO and it isn’t coincidence that suddenly Hamas has all these rockets and can even attack the so-called Iron Dome…In other words, did Benny the Yahoo suddenly (blaming Iran and Hezbollah, of course) send all these rockets to Hamas so that Hamas could “prove” it needs to lead the Palestinians not Mahmoud Abbas (PA) and so that Benny boy could “prove” to Israelis he needs to stay as leader? Because, after all, it seems to me neither Israelis nor Hamas/ Abbas gives any crap at all about Palestinians! Nor, of course, do most Christian Zionists…..not even giving a crap about the CHRISTIANS among the Palestinians! (Christ at the Checkpoint video channel can verify this hatred of Palestinians by some Christian Zionists). And if Israel is so “blessed” then why are they dropping like flies from the covid “vaccines”?

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  33. Sean says:
    @Pheasant

    Charles Haughey who later became PM of Eire which claimed Northern Ireland as its territory and Neil Blaney were dismissed as cabinet ministers for having Captain Kelly of the Republic of Ireland Army intelligence smuggle arms to the IRA in Northern Ireland. That was in 1969. There were 3 soldiers killed by snipers under working under cover of rioters before Ballymurphy, and three very young off duty Royal Highland Fusiliers. lured from a pub in killed also, and what could be the motive for that but provoking reprisals from the British Army? Anyway, there were para’s given the job of being counter snipers at Ballymurphy to cover those of anti riot duty, who were clearly were trigger happy, and the same soldiers are believed to have killed people at Bloody Sunday. I know for a fact that most of the paras who shot people on Bloody Sunday were Scottish. That Englishman who was chief of the IRA said his strategy was to escalate and that is what happed.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  34. Sean says:
    @Allan

    The British presence on Ireland is a legacy of piecemeal activity commenced before Henry’s rebellion against the papacy. Inertia could have kept the British (or English, really) on Ireland, but they clung to the land also for sectarian reasons, for national pride, and probably due to pecuniary motives of well-connected English elites.

    No, the Irish estates became a drain on Britain in the 19th century. Arthur Balfour took action against absentee landlords and enabled peasants to get their own land. Balfour and Lord Salisbury in never believed that home rule offered a final settlement in Ireland, and so there could be no half way house between independence and remaining part of the UK.

    Probably Cockburn is too fixated upon the Peel plan of 1937 or the UN partition plan of 1947. He needs to loosen up a little. Those plans were intended to be points of departure, at least from Israel’s POV, so it’s more than a little naive to construe them as expectations for fixed political realities to endure ever after.

    They turned it down. It is not as extreme as that fellow who thinks all the unionist would leave Northern Ireland on unification (the middle class ones protestants already are going to a nontrivial extent), but the Palestinians have a pattern of holding out for a great deal, and there seems to be a unspoken assumption that Jews will not want to live in Israel any more. But many of them were born there including in the occupied territories, which were not a recognized part of any Arab state before Israel occupied them, in 1967 they had been in the hands of–in other words occupied by–Egypt and Jordan since the 1948 war. So its rightful owners might have been clear under a partition deal that the Arabs rejected, but it’s not as simple as that now. As has been said in relation to Northern Ireland, conflicts have outcomes, not solutions.

  35. “The best strategy for the Palestinians should be to use their great numbers in a peaceful mass campaign demanding civil right and an end to discriminatory restrictions.”

    Please be so kind to explain how the hell this is supposed to succeed. When did peaceful mass campaigns ever win against a fascist colonial power, anywhere in history?

  36. @MEexpert

    In fact in 2006 Hezbollah’s main force units weren’t even engaged. They were held back in reserve. Hezbollah defeated the zio invasion using the equivalent of frontier guards.

  37. @joe2.5

    Cockburn knows that his career and pay-packet depends on NEVER telling the whole truth about Israel, the Zionazis, the Judaic Talmudic death-cult and the activities of Judaic Fifth Columns in the west. One false word and he will get the Corbyn Treatment-or worse.

  38. @omegabooks

    Abbas is a Quisling, and you know that, absolutely, because the Zionazis have not murdered him-yet. The Zionazis and their Western fakestream stooges are aiming to have Dahlan, the traitor who delivered the Po 210 poison to Arafat, for his Masters in Israel, and who attempted a coup in Gaza, after Hamas won the last Palestinian election, in 2006.

  39. @MEexpert

    The Zionazis inflict numerous psychological terror tactics on the caged Gazans. There are the regular murders by drone, often with ‘collateral damage’, and the drones are kept aloft over Gaza at all hours, the low humming a reminder that the ‘Gods Upon the Earth’ can exterminate the ‘insects’ below whenever a ritual offering is required. And the Zionazis regularly fly over Gaza, at night, low or at supersonic speeds, the sonic booms awakening one and all, and terrorising chjildren in particular. The Gazan children are among the most psychologically terrorised such population anywhere, but the Western fakestream media vermin that we must sympathise only with Israeli children, forced to waddle rapidly to their reinforced bunkers, because Gazan children deserve what they get. By the by-despite my nassty, but true, observations, I am glad that Israeli children are basically safe, because I see child-killing as Evil, unlike the Zionazis.

  40. MEexpert says:
    @Daniel H

    And I suppose the “Truth Fairy” is real.

  41. sb says:

    The best contribution to this issue which the US could make is to simply state that there just isn’t enough real estate involved to allow for two separate countries and that Gaza and the Left Bank become part of Israel proper with a common citizenship for all .

    Of course the Jews are not going to like that but as compensation the Jews will be allowed to unconditionally migrate to the US . I’m sure most will

    This will maybe double the US Jewish population but would this make much difference ?
    US Jews pretty much have all the power and wealth that they want now so that will just continue .
    I rather doubt US Gentiles will notice much difference . They will just continue to live in a Jewish dominated country

    I’d say the lives of the religious Jews who stay in Israel will also pretty much remain the same . I don’t think many of them really care about politics as long as they are left alone to wait for the Messiah or whatever it is they do to pass the time

  42. @AnonStarter

    I’m not sure what kind of world Cockburn is inhabiting

    Just looking at the title, I’d say he’s living in a world where the planned destruction of a population over 70 years is considered a “mistake” . . you know, like oops, we stole your land and blew your family to bits, sorry, our mistake . . oh by the way, remember the holocaust.

    • Agree: AnonStarter, rgl
  43. It’s funny how the ziofreaks commenting here blame Palestine for the horrible mess that “israel” has made of the region. One fool even thinks Jordan, Lebanon, and other neighbours have too many Palestinian refugees. We wonder why Palestinians didn’t stay in their own country.

    When the British diplomat spoke of the ‘Palestinian question’, it means the Jewish Problem. That is “the poison of Palestine”.

    • Agree: rgl
  44. rgl says:
    @TG

    “…according to wikipedia…”

    lol

  45. Ahm Ahm says:

    When are the western countries ready to take back their exported settlers to middle east and provide them the respect so that they do not feel occupying another country.

    • Troll: anonymouseperson
  46. This writer calls for “peaceful protests.” Like the March of Return? And get shot down like dogs?AGAIN? The only thing the Jews understand is armed resistance. They no longer bomb Lebanon because they know what Hezbollah will do in return. A deterrent, however inadequate, has to be established. The only alternative is to lie down and die quietly as the Jews complete their ethnic cleansing and destroy Al Aqsa. The reality of Zionist Occupation is like Nazi rule in Occupied Poland. Countries like America and Britain have even made Bds illegal. America has threatened to BOMB the ICC if it so much as LOOKS at precious Israel. Just WTF else are they supposed to do????????????

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
  47. @Jake

    It was a mistake to create a state with a one third hostile minority.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  48. @Lawrence Miller

    Judge Iona T. Nikitchenko, who presided at the Nuremberg Tribunal’s solemn opening session and was the head Soviet judge at the “war crimes” trials, was a vice-chairman of the supreme court of the USSR before and after his service at Nuremberg. In August 1936 he was one of the leading judges at the Moscow trials of the [unjustly persecuted innocent socialists? Reactionary wreckers and evil conspirators against the socialist revolution?] Kamenev and Zinoviev… and many others.

    One of these trials was a complete sham, of course — a “show trial;” a mockery of justice and truth; mere theater to provide a “moral justification” for the persecution and murder of defeated opponents — while the other was a obvious triumph of Truth, Justice, the American Wary, and muh human rights democracy.

    The question is — which was which? And why? And what mysterious force could possibly account for Mr. Nikitchenko’s sudden change from evil, murderous monster to incorruptible crusader for cosmic justice [or vice versa?]

    The world wonders…

  49. Donald Trump was the most pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian president ever to occupy the White House.

    Fact check: FALSE

    https://jewishdems.org/2020-israel/

    Joe Biden’s consistent support for Israel spans his entire five-decade career in public life, since he was first elected to the Senate in 1972. No candidate for president in either party has ever run with as long and as strong of a pro-Israel record as Joe Biden.

    As Vice President, Joe Biden played key roles in ensuring Israel’s “security”, including through his support of unprecedented levels of “security assistance” to Israel.

    Biden opposes the global BDS movement and opposes cutting or conditioning military aid to Israel.

    Only Joe Biden is strong on Israel and the values that most Jewish Americans support. Biden’s support for Israel stems from his own values, which align with the values shared by most Jewish Americans.

    Since he was first elected to the Senate in 1972 and traveled to Israel in 1973, Biden’s commitment to Israel has been unshakeable. Biden has fought in the Senate for critical aid to Israel, calling it “the best \$3 billion ‘investment’ we make,” and opposed any effort to cut or condition aid to Israel. In fact, he’s called such efforts “outrageous.”

    As vice president, Biden helped ensure unwavering support for Israel’s “security.” During the Obama-Biden Administration, he was a key advocate in securing support for… Iron Dome, David’s Sling, and Arrow 3 anti-rocket and missile defense systems. Biden helped shape the unprecedented \$38 billion, 10-year, Memorandum of Understanding between the U.S. and Israel signed in 2016, the largest such military aid package in U.S. history.

    Biden’s first foreign trip as Senator in 1973 was to Israel, when he met with Prime Minister Golda Meir and then-Ambassador Yitzhak Rabin. During his career in the Senate, he met with the nine Israeli Prime Ministers, from Meir to Ehud Olmert

    Biden proudly calls himself a Zionist, saying “You don’t have to be Jewish to be a Zionist, and I’m a Zionist.” He cosponsored the Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act of 2006. The Act was enacted into law in December 2006.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20201003213847/https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/22/2020-election-haim-saban-throws-money-behind-biden-democrats-in-senate-races.html

    Billionaires Haim and Cheryl Saban ramp up support for Biden and Democrats in Senate races

    https://www.jta.org/2014/11/09/united-states/saban-slams-obamas-iran-policy-advises-bombing-in-worst-case

    Haim Saban, a top Democratic Party donor and backer of Hillary Rodham Clinton, slammed President Obama’s Iran strategy and advised Israel to bomb the “living daylights” out of Iran

    “I would bomb the living daylights out of these sons of bitches,” Saban said Sunday at the first conference of the Israeli American Council, an advocacy group he is helping to fund.

    He and his son-in-law Jared Kushner

    From the CNBC piece above: “While Saban supports the Democratic Party, he has also has ties with Trump’s son-in-law and senior advisor, Jared Kushner.”

    https://theintercept.com/2020/01/07/joe-biden-iraq-war-history/

    Joe Biden, Five Years Before Invasion, Said the Only Way of Disarming Iraq Is “Taking Saddam Down”

    Etc.

    • Thanks: Ace
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  50. Ace says:
    @Lawrence Miller

    The trials were a low-grade lynching party as hideous torture was visited on some prisoners, not least the former commandant of one major camp. American Jewish GIs apparently participated in that. Crushed testicles. That sort of thing.

  51. Ace says:
    @TG

    Little did the Palestinians realize they were occupying the ancestral homeland of the Ashkenazi. The population dynamics are as you describe but Israel moved to take over their land and now face the full implications of their theft.

  52. Alfred says:
    @A123

    You constantly get first place in the comments because you are a full-time troll. Your controller tells you when unz.com has a new article about the Middle East.

    Hamas has destroyed the aquifer under Gaza.

    So what water are they supposed to drink when the Israelis only supply them brackish water?

    You are a troll who is working for the Zionists by constantly pointing out the “errors” of the Palestinians without explaining what forced them to commit these errors.

    Do you seriously think that Palestinian parents wish to impose salty water on their kids?

    Israel bombing destroys water supplies of 20% of Gaza residents

    This most recent conflict was initiated by Jews grabbing illegally more property from Palestinians in East Jerusalem. What is so difficult to understand?

    What Israel is currently doing is going to come back at them at a later date – in spades.

  53. Alfred says:

    A strategic look at the situation is important.

    1- Israel is desperate to prevent Iran from coming to an agreement with the USA which will permit Iran to become sanction-free.

    2- Israel deliberately triggered the on-going crisis by allowing Jewish settlers to attack Palestinians in Jerusalem and to seize Palestinian homes.

    3- Hamas and Islamic Jihad retaliated against Israel by firing rockets.

    4- Hamas and Islamic Jihad have asked the Hezbollah of Lebanon not to join the fight.

    5- Hezbollah has not entered the fray because they want the sanctions on Iran to end and because they were formally asked not to join. It is a purely Palestinian struggle.

    6- Biden is keen to renew the agreement of Obama with Iran.

    If the Israelis do not succeed in sabotaging the agreement between the USA and Iran, they will have been the strategic losers. Furthermore, the Holohoax is being undermined by their ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

    The oil markets seem to have made their minds up.

    Oil reaches three week low on inflation concerns, Iran deal progress

    Once these sanctions are removed, the gloves will be off.

  54. 7. Distracts from Bibi’s legal and electoral problems

    2- Israel deliberately triggered the on-going crisis by allowing Jewish settlers to attack Palestinians in Jerusalem and to seize Palestinian homes.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/11/29/eviction-of-palestinians-in-sheikh-jarrah-part-of-israeli-policy

    Eviction of Palestinians in Sheikh Jarrah part of Israeli policy

    In October, the Israeli magistrate court of Jerusalem ruled to evict 12 of the 24 Palestinian families in Sheikh Jarrah and to give their homes to Israeli Jewish settlers. The court also ruled that each family must pay 70,000 shekels (\$20,000) in fees to cover the settlers’ legal expenses.

    Israeli? This morbidly obese MOT sounds like he hails from the part of Tel Aviv that is commonly known as “Brooklyn”:

    “If I don’t steal it, some other jew is gonna steal it”

    Typical semitic supremacist attitude — any and all goy ownership claims are automatically invalid; only the Tribe has any meaningful right of ownership.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  55. @James Forrestal

    What a revolting evil bastard. This should be played on all western media let the world see the lovely people they support. And these racist settler bastards are the real face of Israel not gay pride marches in Tel Aviv or chicks in the IDF. You want to throw up when you see their evil ugly mugs.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  56. Wielgus says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Judging from his weight he has clearly not missed many bagel buffets.

  57. @James Forrestal

    Saban embodies the death-cult, or more precisely the murder-cult, that is Judaism. He is slobbering for a New Purim in Iran with mass murder of Iranians. But you cannot state that fact, which, being the truth, is ‘antisemitic’.

  58. @Sean

    Are there any other cowardly mass murders you care to make loathsome excuses for?

  59. anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel H

    Lol, you pagan godless vermin!

    The Holy Quran says this;

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, nor is there to Him any equivalent.”

    That is “corroborated” by simple logical reasoning. If one is a theist, he/she cannot dispute it.

    On the other hand, your pagan godless evilisation depends on this for its core spiritual foundation…

    The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (Latin: Trinitas, lit. ‘triad’, from Latin: trinus “threefold”) holds that God is one God, but three coeternal and consubstantial persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit.

    This uncorroborated pagan nonsense is “The Truth”?

  60. Palestinians need better weapons.

    • Replies: @A123
  61. A123 says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Palestinian Jews have pretty good weapons in Jewish Palestine.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  62. @A123

    Does your zionazi instinct tell you this show in Palestine is enough to stop Biden from kissing Iranian ass, to stop the nuclear deal to woo Iran away from China and Russia?

    I enjoy the hell out of it. Please continue the show, show the world your true colors. lol

  63. @anonymouseperson

    Yea, jews should have genocided the Palestinians before the creation of Israel. lol.

    This comments section is fucking gold.

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