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Dr. Brian Monahan, attending physician of Congress, told a closed meeting of Senate staffers this week that 70 million to 150 million Americans — a third of the nation — could contract the coronavirus. Dr. Anthony Fauci testified that the mortality rate for COVID-19 will likely run near 1%.

Translation: Between 750,000 and 1.1 million Americans may die of this disease before it runs its course. The latter figure is equal to all the U.S. dead in World War II and on both sides in the Civil War.

Chancellor Angela Merkel warns that 70% of Germany’s population — 58 million people — could contract the coronavirus. If she is right, and Fauci’s mortality rate holds for her country, that could mean more than half a million dead Germans.

Czech Prime Minister Andrej Babis called Merkel’s remark “unhelpful” and said it could cause panic. But Harvard epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch seemed to support Merkel, saying between 40% and 70% of the world’s population could become infected.

Again, if Fauci’s 1% mortality rate and Lipsitch’s estimate prove on target, between 3 billion and 5 billion people on earth will be infected, and 30 million to 50 million will die, a death toll greater than that of the Spanish Flu of 1918.

There is, however, some contradictory news.

China, with 81,000 cases, has noted a deceleration in new cases and South Korea appears to be gradually containing the spread of the virus.

Yet, Italy, with its large elderly population, may be a harbinger of what is to come in the West.

As of Thursday, Italy had reported 12,000 cases and 827 deaths, a mortality rate of nearly 7%. This suggests that the unreported and undetected infections in shutdown Italy are far more numerous.

In the U.S., the death toll at this writing is 39, a tiny fraction of the annual toll of tens of thousands who die of the flu.

But the problem is this: COVID-19 has not nearly run its course in the USA, while the reaction in society and the economy approaches what we might expect from a boiling national disaster.

The stock market has plunged further and faster than it did in the Great Crash of 1929. Trillions of dollars in wealth have vanished. If Sen. Bernie Sanders does not like “millionaires and billionaires,” he should be pleased. There are far fewer of them today than there were when he won the New Hampshire primary.

What does the future hold?

It may one day be said that the coronavirus delivered the deathblow to the New World Order, to a half-century of globalization, and to the era of interdependence of the world’s great nations.

Tourism, air travel, vacation cruises, international gatherings and festivals are already shutting down. Travel bans between countries and continents are being imposed. Conventions, concerts and sporting events are being canceled. Will the Tokyo Olympics go forward? If they do, will all the anticipated visitors from abroad come to Japan to enjoy the games?

Trump has issued a one-month travel ban on Europe.

As for the “open borders” crowd, do Democrats still believe that breaking into our country should no longer be a crime, and immigrants arriving illegally should be given free health care, a proposition to which all the Democratic debaters raised their hands?

The ideological roots of our free trade era can be traced to the mid-19th century when its great evangelist, Richard Cobden, rose at Free Trade Hall in Manchester on Jan. 15, 1846, and rhapsodized:

“I see in the Free Trade principle that which shall act on the moral world as the principle of gravitation in the universe — drawing men together, thrusting aside the antagonism of race, and creed, and language, and uniting us in the bonds of eternal peace.”

In the pre-Trump era, Republicans held hands with liberal Democrats in embracing NAFTA, GATT, the WTO and most-favored-nation trade privileges for China.

ORDER IT NOW

In retrospect, was it wise to have relied on China to produce essential parts for the supply chains of goods vital to our national security? Does it appear wise to have moved the production of pharmaceuticals and lifesaving drugs for heart disease, strokes and diabetes to China? Does it appear wise to have allowed China to develop a virtual monopoly on rare earth minerals crucial to the development of weapons for our defense?

In this coronavirus pandemic, people now seem to be looking for authoritative leaders and nations seem to be looking out for their own peoples first. Would Merkel, today, invite a million Syrian refugees into Germany no matter the conditions under which they were living in Syria and Turkey?

Is not the case now conclusive that we made a historic mistake when we outsourced our economic independence to rely for vital necessities upon nations that have never had America’s best interests at heart?

Which rings truer today? We are all part of mankind, all citizens of the world. Or that it’s time to put America and Americans first!

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2020 Creators.com.

 
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  1. Beb says:

    The New Work Order was always smoke and mirrors bullshit. It’s past time to be “woke”. Wake UP! And make America Great Again!

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Ann
    , @Biff
  2. Ramp up the fear factor.

    Coronavirus. Sort out the facts from the fiction. The truth from all of the fake fear mongering on the Main Stream News. CORONAVIRUS: THE PHARMA PANDEMIC

    Has Big Pharma Primed us for a COVID Disaster?; ICAN’s CDC Lawsuit. https://youtu.be/TieuTQDhFm0

  3. Rational says:

    IMMIGRATION => CONGESTION => DEATH. EVEN EDUCATED INDIANS ARE RAPISTS.

    It is a well established fact in medical science that population density/congestion kills, by allowing infections to spread more easily. It also causes congestion, pollution, traffic jams and fatalities, crime, etc.

    See: immigration-is-cancer.blogspot.com

    US is the 3rd most populous nation on earth, after China and India, and is full. Ban immigration. Deport all aliens.

    Open border and alienist thugs might like to know that Indian-origin Plastic surgeon Manish Gupta was raping women and has been finally arrested:

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/08/ohio-plastic-surgeon-charged-with-drugging-raping-women-on-camera/

    https://www.toledoblade.com/local/courts/2020/03/07/Toledo-plastic-surgeon-accused-of-drugging-raping-unconscious-women-for-years/stories/20200307114

    • Replies: @Anon
  4. “Which rings truer today? We are all part of mankind, all citizens of the world. Or that it’s time to put America and Americans first!”

    How about instead of putting America and Americans first, we try the Golden Rule? “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

    • Agree: animalogic
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  5. bluedog says:
    @Beb

    And people love it for if they didn’t they would have rose up long ago to put it right, rather then whining like a cur dog that’s just been kicked and now has its tail between its legs,So don’t expect whats not gong to happen as far as making America great again for that takes balls and Americans lost theirs years ago.!!!.!!!

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Biff
  6. Crazy Horse says: • Website

    Funny how Pat turned into an anti-globalist when it was his boss Nixon who kicked the doors open to China.

  7. Ann says:
    @Beb

    New Work Order: great term, thanks! It’s more accurate than New World Order.

    I often read on blogs that the big event (big deception) to be used by the bankers and military-police state to take full control of the population will be one of the following:

    1 ) a meteorite hitting the Earth (false event, but made credible using the media);

    2 ) a very big earthquake;

    3 ) a sudden, catastrophic crash of the US dollar at Wall Street.

    However, i find that this new idea for a psy op, a coronavirus, is much better.

    – This very limited threat has much more chances to quickly become perceived as a very dangerous threat by tens of millions around the globe.

    – It’s consequence (the FEAR, only the FEAR), will result in number 3), the crash of the US dollar.

    – the cancellation of big events everywhere will severely harm local economies, thereby facilitating the passage to a New Work Order.

    – a bonus: the monsters who refused to cover for years the disaster of Fukushima will, again, be spared from giving explanations on what happened and what continues to happen in Japan: they can now simply cancel the Games. Geiger counters will not be required by spectators and participants to ensure they don’t drink readioactive water from the reactors whose water, contaminated by radioactivity, has been dumped and is still being dumped untreated into the ocean.

    https://www.unz.com/video/thecorbettreport_is-this-the-big-event-questions-for-corbett/

    • Replies: @SteveK9
  8. The new world order
    Collapses. Forgot in God
    Eternal verdure.

  9. Anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rational

    Agree with everything said in that “immigration is cancer” blog. I am an immigrant who wants to end all further immigration to the US, and deport all who are not citizens. If all the people I tried to get away from 30+ years ago follow me here, there’s no reason to leave at all. America is being sold out by its elites, mostly Jews but also lots of Jew puppets like Trump and his entire cabinet. They want to kill off the West through immigration for their own gains – more votes, more customers, more cheap labor, more division – divide and conquer.

    Coronavirus is horrible and it will kill lots of good people. If there is one good thing to come out of it, I hope it is the salvation of the West by the end of globalization and all further immigration to the West.

  10. Delta G says:

    We can only hope that Journalists over the Age of 70 find there way to a Corona Hot Spot.

    • Disagree: thotmonger
  11. Biff says:
    @Beb

    The ruling elite probably have less intrinsic concern for the American population than it does for it’s Third World labor force.

  12. Smith says:

    We can only hope.

    Lotsa people are gonna turn right wing and embrace authoritarianism after this, liberal democracy is a meme, you need a strong iron fist in times of crisis, and crisis are always looming.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  13. anon[119] • Disclaimer says:

    Trillions of dollars in wealth have vanished.

    Wrong.

    Not “vanished” but redistributed from accounts of small investors, 401ks, retirees, to the pockets of the first-in-line elites.
    Every share of stock sold is purchased by someone; it doesn’t “vanish.”

    The stock market crash was certainly gamed by whomever deployed the virus.
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/who-made-coronavirus-was-it-the-u-s-israel-or-china-itself/

    China’s Coronavirus: A Shocking Update. Did The Virus Originate in the US?
    Japan, China and Taiwan Reports on the Origin of the Virus
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196
    tracks back to September 2019, when deaths were attributed to “e-cigarettes” or flu or pulmonary fibrosis, but death certificates stated, Corona virus.

    The stock market was at or near a peak on December 31, 2019.
    Persons over 70 1/2 who have retirement accounts must take “required minimum distributions” (RMD) from those accounts; the amount required to be withdrawn in the next year is based on the value of retirement assets on Dec. 31. But the stock market plunge may have removed so much from some small accounts that the 2020 RMD exceeds the funds remaining available.

    Just$ayin

    • Agree: Amerimutt Golems
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @jasmin
  14. Dumbo says:

    Is the “new world order” really collapsing, though? Or does this global virus scare is perfect for those who want more fear among the population, more forms of control, more globalization?

    As of Thursday, Italy had reported 12,000 cases and 827 deaths, a mortality rate of nearly 7%. This suggests that the unreported and undetected infections in shutdown Italy are far more numerous.

    Only cases that are tested and require hospitalization are being counted, therefore the discrepancy. There is a larger population who has mild or no symptoms, and is not being counted. Children and teenagers, for instance, while they can carry the virus, seem to be largely asymptomatic. So they are not being tested by and large. It is clear that also in the U.S. there is or will be a large number of untested cases.

    This global panic is something very unusual. Even if it kills 1% of the world population, which I doubt, it is not a lot. People die. Diseases kill. That’s life. I think more people die each year of of cancer and we don’t have a cure for most of its forms.

    China and South Korea seem to have contained it somehow. In Italy the situation is more complicated because of the larger number of older people, and limited UCI resources, but still, it has been contained mostly in the northern region, the center and south have (so far) much lower number of cases. So containment and isolation seem to work.

    Even in Italy, 85% of those aged over 80 affected by the virus, survive. And very few fatal cases in anyone under 50. So it’s bad, but hardly a death sentence.

    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
  15. “Will the Coronavirus Kill the New World Order?”

    “New World Order” has become a very tiresome phrase because it is so often used to lend a rather sinister air to something which is not in the least sinister, trade and commerce.

    If one means by it, the totality of international trade and economic relationships plus the organizations created to provide a framework for that economic activity, the answer to Mr Buchanan’s question is a resounding “no.”

    Globalization is the natural outcome of a human desire for economic growth and the advance of technology in transportation and communications making it practical to think and plan in global terms.

    Those fundamental forces are entirely unaffected by the setback of a temporary disease.

    It’s actually a bit silly to think so.

    And it’s even sillier to see this temporary disease as a trumpet call to nationalism and trade barriers. Very much Luddite-style thinking.

    Germany and Russia and Japan and other nation-states were literally in total ruins at the end of WWII. Look at them today.

    If the colossal destruction and death of WWII – more than 50 million people died in that conflict – could cause only a temporary pause in the momentum of economics and trade, this disease – which the Chinese already have demonstrated can be brought under control – hardly can be be expected to do so.

    In 15th century Europe, the next town or village was a far-off place, decent roads being rare and the cost of horses and vehicles being beyond the means of almost the entire population.

    That’s a very good measure of the way our thinking has adjusted with changing technology.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @TGD
    , @Kali
  16. SBaker says:
    @Crazy Horse

    That was 50 years ago. People do change and with age sometimes comes wisdom. Did you ever make a mistake?

  17. SBaker says:

    A note that may be of interest concerning a country overthrown by Maddog Mao, who killed at least 50 million of his own people. China is one of the most xenophobic countries of the world. Does anyone know what percentage of their population is of Caucasian, African, or Hispanic origin? Does anyone now how difficult is to immigrate there and become a Chinese citizen? On the one hand, we have become addicted to cheap prices based in underpaid workers, substandard working conditions, stolen patents and intellectual property, and unbridled pollution. On the other hand we expected they would reciprocally open their markets to our products and shift from Communism to democracy. The later never happened. Instead we got a massive trade deficit and they doubled down on secrecy and Communism at our expense. Now, they have formed an alliance–again with Russia–to attack our financial markets.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Chinaman
  18. Rurik says:
    @John Chuckman

    “New World Order” has become a very tiresome phrase because it is so often used to lend a rather sinister air to something which is not in the least sinister, trade and commerce.

    trade and commerce, and, (you forgot) outsourcing and insourcing !

    The processes whereby globalists dismantle manufacturing in heartland America and Europe, and ship it all to the Third World, because the labor is dirt cheap and there’s no environmental regulation to speak of. And, the globalists (Koch brothers, Soros, etc…) also demand Europe and North America open their gates to unlimited armies of Third World immigrants and “refugees”, in order to further crush heartland America and Europe under a tsunami of cheap labor and ethnic replacements of ‘whitey’, whose temperament

    isn’t conducive to the kind of feudalist society the internationalist, globalist elites have in mind.

    This photo of London today, that I recently posted to another Buchanan thread;

    ..is what the Glob elites have in mind for us.

    vs. pre-globalist London (where admittedly they didn’t all have ‘smart’ phones or much money, but they had something else).

    The pictures say it all.

    • Agree: SBaker
  19. TGD says:
    @John Chuckman

    “New World Order” has become a very tiresome phrase because it is so often used to lend a rather sinister air to something which is not in the least sinister, trade and commerce.

    The Bushee “New World Order” was a “sinister” scheme designed to speed up the de-industrialization of the USA and to replace lost high value added industries with an “advanced service economy,” where workers flip hamburgers, drive trucks, pick and pack customer orders at Amazon, sell each other real estate, trade stocks and “derivatives,” engage in endless wars, etc etc.

    And what about older workers who can’t adjust to the “New Economy?” Joe Biden has a solution: “Learn to code.”

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  20. The stock market has plunged further and faster than it did in the Great Crash of 1929. Trillions of dollars in wealth have vanished. If Sen. Bernie Sanders does not like “millionaires and billionaires,” he should be pleased. There are far fewer of them today than there were when he won the New Hampshire primary.

    You may want to look up terms like watered stock, pump and dump plus short-selling.

    The ideological roots of our free trade era can be traced to the mid-19th century when its great evangelist, Richard Cobden, rose at Free Trade Hall in Manchester on Jan. 15, 1846, and rhapsodized:

    “I see in the Free Trade principle that which shall act on the moral world as the principle of gravitation in the universe — drawing men together, thrusting aside the antagonism of race, and creed, and language, and uniting us in the bonds of eternal peace.”

    Adam Smith and others laid the foundation, especially David Ricardo with his comparative advantage fallacy. He didn’t envision the Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Bangladeshis and Vietnamese wrecking industries in West through slave labor.

    Anyway proponents and parrots are rattled as the tide turns.

    From Foreign Policy magazine, “The Coronavirus Is Killing Globalization as We Know It” by Philippe Legrain, a ‘British’ economist born to a French father and an Estonian mother who is the author of “Immigrants: Your Country Needs Them”.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  21. A123 says:

    It may not kill the UN/NWO, but it will savage it’s little brother the EU. (1)

    Anyone with a heart can feel pity and an urge to help them [Italy]. They need help, bad.

    But don’t go asking the European Union.

    Turns out the open-borders globalist set-up is stiffing the Italians in their hour of need:

    First, the EU created the problem by failing to shut down their borders with China, enabling its spread into Italy in the first place. While President Trump was acting swiftly to protect America from the lethal virus, the European Union was saying there was no crisis and calling Trump a xenophobe.

    Now, with Italy hit hard based on that hate-Trump ‘logic’, its medical system is overwhelmed. Its doctors and nurses are exhausted. There’s not enough equipment or supplies, and the patients keep coming. Health care is being doled out by triage, old people being told ‘no health care for you.’ The Italians are appealing for help with masks, surgical equipment, doctors, anything that will enable them to get through it and save human lives — and the EU is not giving it.

    The EU’s epic failure is already boosting Lega Nord. And the next Italian government will stiff EU protected institutions like DeutscheBank. All those bonds in elite Globalist banks that suddenly become worthless.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/with_health_care_collapsing_italy_learns_just_how_worthless_the_eu_is_and_socialized_medicine_too.html

  22. @bluedog

    Yes, young US white males have indeed lost their balls, with testosterone levels dropping precipitously. With this deadly virus from China, it is now cool to be a stay-at-home couch potato, with masturbating to porn replacing the real thing. Andrew Yang was right – we must have our $1000 per month stipend NOW for doing nothing.

    As for losing our balls, nothing epitomizes it more than pro golf, including the Masters, being cancelled until further notice. Keep the fans away, yes, but golf is played in the fresh air with NO CONTACT, so what’s the problem?

    How long will it take for men, quarantined in their homes with nothing to do, to start beating their girlfriends and maybe go Postal?

    Not to be cruel, but it is mostly sick old people who die from the virus anyway. Do they think they can live forever? Really, at some point they are worthless eaters, sucking Medicare and Social Security dry, while our young are too much in student debt from overpriced colleges to start families and buy homes. Our current effeminate country, with its priorities all askew, could never have won WWII.

    • Agree: bluedog, Buck Ransom
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Sulu
    , @NoseytheDuke
  23. Mr. Grey says:
    @Crazy Horse

    Funny how Pat turned into an anti-globalist when it was his boss Nixon who kicked the doors open to China.

    I think Pat has always been a nationalist. Nixon restoring relations with mainland China was all about the Soviet Union and the Cold War. Mao was still alive at the time.

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
  24. “In retrospect, was it wise to have relied on China to produce essential parts for the supply chains of goods vital to our national security? Does it appear wise to have moved the production of pharmaceuticals and lifesaving drugs for heart disease, strokes and diabetes to China? Does it appear wise to have allowed China to develop a virtual monopoly on rare earth minerals crucial to the development of weapons for our defense?”

    Certainly it was not very clever to outsource production of strategic items to China and then embark on a campaign of China bashing and dragon poking. In fact this only makes sense if you are fairly sure that the Chinese are not going to retaliate. How far that is a correct assumption remains to be seen. So far, it looks rather like adults dealing with a fractious and rather violent child. Even very patient and basically gentle adults can sometimes be pushed too far and even decide that the violent behaviour can only be stopped by physical punishment. This gets scary, of course, when both have nuclear weapons!

    The outsourcing of strategic items could have been stopped only by government fiat, as the logic of Capitalism, is that the bottom line is the most important parameter, and the beancounter is King. In other words, the board’s primary responsibility is not to the country, its workforce, the community it finds itself in, the environment or the world, but to the shareholders. So if outsourcing to China or Chunga-Changa is good for the bottom line in the near term, that is what they HAVE to do.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  25. In retrospect, was it wise to have relied on China to produce essential parts for the supply chains of goods vital to our national security? Does it appear wise to have moved the production of pharmaceuticals and lifesaving drugs for heart disease, strokes and diabetes to China? Does it appear wise to have allowed China to develop a virtual monopoly on rare earth minerals crucial to the development of weapons for our defense?

    The thing is, if you don’t want to retrospectively regret commercial decisions you made long ago and think that some of them were strategic mistakes, you need a planned economy that has a longer timescale than the next five or six quarters’ results. This where the Chinese are strong and the USA is weak.

  26. @Rurik

    The World We Have Lost!

    • Agree: Rurik
  27. @SBaker

    Annihilating your nation’s working class and industrial capacity to please button-pushers and bean counters on Wall Street is one hell of a ‘mistake’.

    If I owned an extremely powerful manufacturing business that was doing great, it would be something more than a ‘mistake’ if I decided to sell all my technology and skills to some other people who are hostile to me, in the hopes they will continue making my products for a low price.

  28. @foolisholdman

    But they are asked to look out for the company bottom line in the long term, now with Chinese companies like Huawei muscling in on the American monopolies, the people who shipped the jobs out to China to increase their stock value are looking rather stupid.

    My question is, did these people underestimate the Chinese and view them as a docile and domesticated coolies who would forever slave away for the benefit of the White Man, but were shocked when these little industrious fellow learned these new Western technologies and innovated on them, the innovation being boosted by China’s authoritarian system where the State’s resources can be mobilised at a moment’s notice to pursue a task seems to be beneficial? (as we see with the Hubei lockdown)

  29. Rurik says:
    @Amerimutt Golems

    From Foreign Policy magazine, “The Coronavirus Is Killing Globalization as We Know It” by Philippe Legrain, a ‘British’ economist born to a French father and an Estonian mother who is the author of “Immigrants: Your Country Needs Them”.

    For the record, I wouldn’t wish for Philippe Legrain to catch the Coronavirus.

    But.. if what happened to Pamela Mastropietro (raped by Legrain’s orcs, dismembered *while alive*, genitals hacked off, cannibalized and then stuffed into suitcases..)

    …were to happen to Legrain instead- rather than to the Italian teenager- who was Legrain’s victim, as much as she was the victim of his pets. Then perhaps there’d be a certain karmic justice to that, no?

    Will the Coroavirus effect Legrain’s agenda to see many, many more Europeans given ‘The ‘Philippe Legrain-treatment’ in the future? (since the so-called ‘benefits’ (to the globalist elite scum) of immigration are, to his mind- worth it– if a few girls are raped and cannibalized from time to time…) ?

    We can only hope so.

  30. @Smith

    Agreed about the Strong Iron Fist. Democracy is fatally flawed, and the sooner we lose ours, with losers like Nancy Pelosi and senile Joe Biden at the top, the better. My eye opener occurred after reading “The End of Democracy” by Christophe Buffin de Chosal. The best of the people never run for public office, and voting changes nothing. As WB Yeats wrote:”The Best Lack All Conviction, While the Worst are Full of Passionate Intensity.”

    But, rather than turn Right, this country might well turn Totalitarian Left. They have the majority due to our Left-wing educational scam, and all that is needed is a leader like Stalin, and the Antifa brownshirts will follow. In spite of killing millions of people, he brought Russia into the 20th Century. Mao did the same in China.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @bluedog
  31. I think we might need to be scared of swine flu and Zika while we’re at it, in case some of that panic was missed. Let’s go ahead and panic now about the next big plague and avoid the rush. Is there an email alert list we could subsbcribe to so we don’t miss it?

  32. I would say no.

    The wealthy can self-isolate better than any other group and they are the ones that push lies about globalism being good for everyone.

    Even wealthy conservative talk show hosts that can afford to tell the truth still stick to the establishment lines and don’t dare point out that the “free market” hasn’t fixed Africa. This tells me that most conservative talking heads are really just money whores and don’t care about the country.

    I’m optimistic though. Both right/left narratives are easily torn apart on the internet. Liberals turned off comments on most of their websites because it became clear that they aren’t telling us everything. A few comments can completely undermine a narrative that some liberal spend days on.

  33. Dumbo says:
    @follyofwar

    Our current effeminate country, with its priorities all askew, could never have won WWII.

    Why did it “win WWII”, anyway? It’s not as it seems to have done much for anyone, “winners” or “losers”.

    Really, at some point they are worthless eaters,

    LOL, but aren’t they exactly those manly men who “won WWII”?

    Anyway, the old are also people, we will all be old one day. Or not.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  34. Anonymous[681] • Disclaimer says:

    I used to look upon world travelers with envy, now I look at them with disdain. Globalist globetrotters are the spreader of viruses all over the world. I have no more desire to travel and see the world.

  35. Sulu says:
    @follyofwar

    I take it the old people of today that paid into social security for 40 plus years only became “worthless eaters” when they became old enough to be entitled to some of the money that they have been paying in for decades?
    Sulu

  36. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @SBaker

    True we all make mistakes but I also agree with Just Passing Through that it was one hell of mistake as such even though there were salutary results i.e. detente’ which was destroyed by some peanut farmer later on but I won’t get into that.

  37. @follyofwar

    Not to be cruel, but it is mostly sick old people who die from the virus anyway. Do they think they can live forever? Really, at some point they are worthless eaters, sucking Medicare and Social Security dry, while our young are too much in student debt from overpriced colleges to start families and buy homes.

    Not to be cruel? I take it that you meant to write not to be just cruel but immoral too. Those old “useless eaters” that you refer to actually built and paid for the universities that students are in debt to and are not responsible for the high cost of attending, and much of that debt was incurred obtaining useless degrees anyway. When the old get SS or Medicare they are usually receiving back a mere fraction of what they already put into the system over a great many years, they deserve to live out their twilight years with dignity (you may have to look that word up judging by your comment).

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Thanks: bluedog
  38. @Dumbo

    What happened is that too many manly men from the upper and middle classes were killed off.

    This happened on both sides and is the dysgenic nature of modern warfare.

    Basically your top officers and specialists get sent to the front lines first.

    It wasn’t like wars of the past where you take peasants and send them at each other while the officers stay back.

    • Replies: @Kim
  39. Pamela Mastropietro? Wow. RIP. I learn the wildest things around here.

    Kudos Pat, hen peckers notwithstanding.

    Note: It is an interesting fact that both Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan came to Seattle in December 1999 to criticize the World Trade Organization ministerial meeting. I vividly remember on King 5 TV News, Pat’s example of WTO unacceptably usurping American laws was about their decision to overrule our effort to… better protect sea turtles! Hurrah Pat!! True, Ralph remains more a hero to me, but Pat is still welcome in my living room. He is one of those rare birds today: a real statesman.

    p.s. The HBO miniseries, The Plot Against America, seeks to make the expression “America First” shameful and just plain radioactive. It is based on a novel by Philip Roth that does a real obscene number to Charles Lindbergh. Basically argues it would better if Lindbergh were assassinated (ala Mossad?) rather than be permitted to remain an elected president of the USA. Something to keep in mind when the producer admits he sees this series as an allegory to the Trump presidency today. (I would add to any presidency that objects to Israel First.)

    Read a salient review of the book here:

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/heil-to-the-chief/

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  40. @follyofwar

    You’re not the first person to figure out that Democracy is flawed.

    The problem is that with dictators it’s too easy to get the wrong person at the top like Hitler or Mussolini that screws everything up and ends up making things easier for the left.

    For example before WW2 the study of racial differences was allowed in the US and in fact California was a leader in this regard. After WW2 the leftist narrative of race not existing became standard in the schools. The left is firmly in control of the narrative to where numerous areas of research can’t consider race as a factor even if the evidence is overwhelming.

    • Replies: @Malla
  41. Anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    The two aren’t mutually. I would expect the citizens of other nations to put their nation and citizens first.

  42. @thotmonger

    True, Ralph remains more a hero to me, but Pat is still welcome in my living room.

    Pat is a hero to a lot of us that had to sit through White guilt studies aka the social sciences.

    I knew the social sciences were only pretending to engage in critical thinking but Pat’s book pointed me in the direction of the Frankfurt school and that tied it all together. It was much easier to deconstruct the underlying ideology once I understood the foundation. I switched to the hard sciences in part because the professors found me to be infuriating.

  43. Jake says:

    If the coronavirus could kill off the aging Sodomites in the Catholic Church, as well as the non-Sodomite Leftists who back Pope Francis as much as do the Sodomites, then the Catholic Church once again could act positively for the world.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @Hibernian
  44. Kim says:
    @John Johnson

    It wasn’t like wars of the past where you take peasants and send them at each other while the officers stay back.

    I am not sure what period of history you are referring to. In the medieval period in Europe, the nobility usually fought in the fiercest of it. Richard I (Lionheart) of England was killed in battle. King Harald at Hastings. The flower of French nobility was lost at Agincourt. I could make a very long list.

    It is in fact more likely today for officers to be kept safe than it formerly was.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  45. bluedog says:
    @SBaker

    Oh my poor fellow and you just failed to see it coming,just what in hell did you think was going on when Reagan was telling the business to come to Washington so they could show how to move their business out of country and fatten their bottom line,and then he created the off-shore accounts so they could stash their loot there safe from the eyes of the taxman.You been sleeping for 40 years and now its all China’s fault typical dumbass American that won’t cry until his pants are on fire then its always someone fault never their own.

    Trump should have been on this virus clear back in the middle of January but played it down afraid that would hurt his re-election, after all that all that dumbshit ever thinks about is Trump and now we are into a full blown virus that can kill up to 1.5 million now ain’t you glad that you voted for him.!!!

  46. bluedog says:
    @follyofwar

    What decent person would want to run for the oval office if he wasen’t one of the tribe they would demonize him 24/7, make up all kinds of stories about him and if that didn’t work they would lock him up somewhere or he would have an accident,it makes little difference if its right or left the result in the end would be the same.The fake news that Trumps always is whining about comes right out of Washington and then its peddled to the people by the media which they suck up depending upon the party they belong or the political retoric of that party,they whine about socialism but what we have is state socialism and everyone is fine with that.!!!!

  47. Due to quickly dumping stock well before small and medium investors have a chance to panic and sell at a loss or break even, the super wealthy 1% suffer little if any during a stock market sell off. Plus, once the market hits bottom they quickly re-purchase the same stocks at bargain basement cost. Added to that, Covid 19 will very likely solve another major liability by eliminating a large chunk of an aging, non-working population. Plus, there’s all the money to be made selling test kits etc. etc.

    So, looking at it from the a super wealthy standpoint, WHAT IS THERE NOT TO LIKE about the current situation?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  48. KenH says:

    It seems the highest number of coronovirus cases in the U.S. are in states and cities with lots of third world immigrants like California, Seattle, WA, New York and Massachusetts. Lily white W. Virginia has no cases and even Alabama and 82% white Idaho have zero cases thus far.

    We are lectured to never, ever, under any circumstances, imply that this virus has anything to do with East Asians and Pacific Islanders but if there was a virus outbreak in lily white areas of flyover country then I guarantee the “tolerant” anti-racist (anti-white) left would be casting aspersions on them and using every racial epithet in the book.

    If the U.S. ever decides to get serious about bringing the supply chain back stateside then Silicon Valley, major corporations, the CoC and assorted billionaires will demand a massive increase in immigration and work visas to keep wages artificially low, so Americans, and especially white Americans, will get screwed over.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  49. @Jake

    then the Catholic Church once again could act positively for the world.

    When was that exactly? I seem to have missed learning about that period.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  50. Malla says:
    @John Johnson

    The problem is that with dictators it’s too easy to get the wrong person at the top like Hitler or Mussolini that screws everything up and ends up making things easier for the left.

    Sometimes you get good dictators like Lenin or Stalin. Fortunately America had the foresight to help Stalin in destroying Hitler and Tojo, two of the greatest threats to the spread of communism in Eurasia.
    And today America reaps the benefit of this good karma. It may (may? guaranteed) soon get its own Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin in the foreseeable future.
    More good karma by America include, America’s movie industry Hollywood never made many anti-Communist movies (Red Dawn is the only one I know) but is never tires of “evul Nazis” and the occasional “evul Jap”. Cold War and a risk of nuclear war with a Communist superpower and your movie industry makes no (or very very few) anti-Communist movie!!!! Wow! If some alien would make an analysis of Hollywood in the post cold war era, they would conclude that the USA had a cold war with the evul nazis, not commies.
    America has so much good karma that she easily deserves a Communist Brazilian like future, which is on the way.

    • Replies: @TGD
    , @dfordoom
  51. @Kim

    I am not sure what period of history you are referring to. In the medieval period in Europe, the nobility usually fought in the fiercest of it.

    The musket / early rifle period where you had columns of men with officers shouting orders at them.

    It is in fact more likely today for officers to be kept safe than it formerly was.

    Certainly today compared to medieval times but not German officers in WW1 or WW2 if we are talking pilots and u-boat commanders.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  52. @anon

    Part of what you wrote was never true, and part is no longer true due to the enactment of a positive change effective this January 1st, 2020: instead of age 70 and 1/2, you are not required to take minimum distributions from a retirement account until age 72.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinmckenna/2020/01/10/you-can-now-take-required-minimum-distributions-at-72-but-should-you/#7111e27b7a75

    Moreover, the required minimum distribution can never be more than the amount in your account. The RMD is calculated as a percentage of your retirement account’s value based on the average life expectancy of someone who is of your sex and age.

    The government and the financial and banking elites certainly screw us regularly, but that particular criticism was not grounded in fact.

    Finally, absent a required minimum distribution, which nobody under age 72 has to take, it would be quite stupid, and obviously so, to panic-sell after the stock market suffers a big drop. Losses from such panic selling are self-inflicted and generally readily avoidable.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  53. @Carroll Price

    If you engage in panic selling after a big drop in the stock market, you have yourself to blame for your losses. This should be obvious by now. We had the same discussion after the 2008 plunge in the stock market.

    I didn’t sell anything after the 2008 crash and don’t plan to sell any of my stocks now. The stock portion of my retirement portfolio fully recovered from that crash and then some. That includes keeping substantially ahead of inflation over the intervening period as well.

    This doesn’t mean that I have the same confidence in the US and “allied” countries’ economies as I used to, because I don’t. Thus I also don’t have the same expectations about long-term rates of return in our stocks going forward (and indeed those rates of return are not as high as they were in many prior decades in the last century or so).

    Thus I have diversified the retirement portfolio into a real estate investment trust (REIT). These days my wife and I invest more new money each year in a REIT than in stocks.

    And the stocks that we do buy are no longer just US/UK/Euro/Jap stocks. Now we buy shares in Chinese companies (and to a lesser extent, Russian companies), some for current dividend income and some for long-term appreciation retirement purposes.

    But the point remains: whatever you have invested in the stock market, US or foreign, it typically makes little sense to let emotion and short-term “thinking” lead you to sell after a big drop.

  54. @RadicalCenter

    PS Keep a certain percentage of the retirement account in cash. If you are 72 or older and the market plunges right before you have to take a required minimum distribution (and stays substantially down for the better part of a year), you take some of the cash as the RMD. No need to sell stocks at their low point.

  55. Kali says:
    @John Chuckman

    Globalization is the

    natural

    outcome of a human desire for economic growth and the advance of technology in transportation and communications making it practical to think and plan in global terms.

    Seriously?
    A global economy controlled by a sect/cult/cabbal of internationalist oligarchs who grow ever more wealthy/powerful with every passing “crisis” (real or invented) is a “natural outcome” of some invented/contrived nonsence suggesting “human desire for economic growth”?

    I would suggest that this “human desire” you place front and centre as the initiator of economic globalisation is actually nothing more than a desire for individual, family and community econimic security, not “growth”.

    “New World Order” has become a very tiresome phrase because it is so often used to lend a rather sinister air to something which is not in the least sinister, trade and commerce.

    Trade and commerce, committed on a global level, controlled by a cabbal of internationalists for their own enrichment/empowerment at the expence of the vast majority of human and animal life, and of the planet itself, is entirely sinister!

    There is nothing natural about the globalised economy in its present form…

    …Just as there is nothing natural about the global fear-mongering about corona virus.

    I disagree with Buchanan, that this Common Cold virus will spell the end of the NWO. In fact I think the opposite is true.

    CV 19 is all about global lock-down and national governments giving themselves the “legal authority”, under the pretence of ensuring public safety, to take anyone, at any time, into isolated custody, where anything, including death, may befall them. The FEMA camps are ready. New Crown virus 2019 may prove to be the vehicle which fills them – dissident by dissident voice.

    In the meantime the digital/cashless economy which will soon result, will spell the end of any kind of “economic freedom” for everyone who has not prepared for their “economic” independence from “the state”.
    If you do not have access to food, shelter, drinking water, and all of the other “economic” necessities of life, absent the wholy unnatural “economy stupid” of international banksters, you may soon find that your life is even more tightly controlled by “digital credits/debits”, a bunch of social media algorithms, and the mendacity of a heartless machine, be it “human” or otherwise .
    And, even if you have taken the precaution of ensuring your survival outside of “the economy stupid”, CV 19 may be used as the excuse to re-capture you and end your independence.

    So, whilst trade and commerce may not be characterised as “sinister” in themselves, the mono-poly economy of the cabbal which now controls it, is.
    This is the New World Order which (((they))) have been engineering for the last century. The New/Novel Crown, virus 2019, may very well prove to be the mechanism by which its final pieces are put into place.

    Unless, of course, mankind wakes tfu from its state/media-induced trance before the “Lock Down”, or some natural disaster knocks out their (((unnatural systems))). (Not worth holding your breath for.)

    Upon reflection one may find why it was that the Buddha laughed.

    With love,
    Kali.

  56. Chinaman says:
    @SBaker

    Damn…you are good. Mike Pompeo need a speech writer like you, you hit all the important talking points of the neocon warmongers in just one paragraph.

    Do you really believe this shit you write? You DO know these politician make up these shit as a pretext for whatever personal or Jewish agenda they are pushing, right? Or are you so brainwashed that you can’t tell the difference?

    Wake up and get a grip, man.

  57. Chinaman says:
    @KenH

    We are lectured to never, ever, under any circumstances, imply that this virus has anything to do with East Asians and Pacific Islanders

    There is no reason to be coy about or to imply anything…don’t talk about it, do something.

    Physically assault them. Their existence is a threat.

    beat the shit out of them so they start splitting contaminated blood and infected liquids burst out of their orifice.

    Wait, what ? the coronavirus originated from America ?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-further-evidence-virus-originated-us/5706078

    • Replies: @KenH
  58. Pat Buchanan raises some concerns, such as China’s “virtual monopoly on rare earth minerals”. It is the growing confrontation with Beijing, though there are other potential flash points, that is reminiscent of 1914 or 1939. We must not allow issues such as Coronavirus or climate change distract us from that dangerous drift.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  59. Chinaman says:
    @foolisholdman

    How far that is a correct assumption remains to be seen. So far, it looks rather like adults dealing with a fractious and rather violent child. Even very patient and basically gentle adults can sometimes be pushed too far

    This is an apt description of the relationship between China and America. The dragon poking is childish and annoying. The Chinese do hit their kids to instill discipline and compliance.

    Like every kid, you let them throw their tantrum for awhile, they eventually get tired and come to their senses. After they calm down, You bribe them with something small like sweets so you can get on with your business.

    We have 2000 years of experience in barbarian domestication so this is easy.

    • Agree: d dan
    • LOL: Biff
  60. SteveK9 says:
    @Ann

    You think the coronavirus is a very limited threat (5000 deaths … so far), but that Fukushima (0 deaths) was a disaster??

  61. On the bright side, Corona kills literally Merkels argument for Migration.
    Die Rentner.

  62. Anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Wilbur Ross and other Ziocons are gleefully cheering that companies might now move their production out of China. Unfortunately they aren’t moving them back to the US. They are moving them to countries like Vietnam and Malaysia. So the whole objective of this trade war was not so much to help the US regain our manufacturing base but to hurt China. But the sneaky Chinese know that all they have to do is open factories in places like Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia and they’re still making all the bucks, or just have these places be the final assembly places or shipping points while still making most parts in China. So in the end China is not hurt at all.

    If the coronavirus kills off Wall Street and the JWO, it’d be the one good thing that came out of this disaster.

  63. Anon[237] • Disclaimer says:

    Which rings truer today? We are all part of mankind, all citizens of the world. Or that it’s time to put America and Americans first!

    Buchanan, it’s not my intention at all to be abusive, or even wry, to you. But I think you well know “America” and “Americans” are by now dear memories, rather than nowadays active forces/values.
    There’s an empire, with subjects. Who don’t notice they are subjects. Because that’s the first thing a slyly-run empire will ensure its subjects not notice.
    And yes, it’s the kind of empire where, also for racial reasons, the rulers are at best indifferent to the majority of the subjects.

    Such things happen… a lot of things happen in the history of mankind, and this is one of those.

  64. jasmin says:
    @anon

    Any elderly person who had money in the stock market is crazy. No matter how you look at it the stock market has risk and it was due to collapse because of the actions of the Federal Reserve. The big money always gets out first. The 401k’s are frozen and pension fund money cannot be moved out fast enough. In fact, it’s a repeated cycle of pump then dump with the dump part controlled by the big money. It’s all rigged.

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
  65. @Crazy Horse

    Pat Buchanan has always been very upfront about his early adherence to the free-trade nonsense. When he was in the Reagan White House, Buchanan bragged that he was the biggest proponent of free-trade except for Reagan himself.

    However, the scales fell from Pat’s eyes when he himself hit the campaign trail in 1991 and 1992 in his bid to win the Republican presidential nomination.

    As he told it, he came face-to-face with auto workers (in Ohio, maybe?), union guys who had never supported a Republican. These men told him point blank that they would support him if he could “bring their jobs back”. At that moment, Buchanan realized that the free-trade policies of the previous 25 years had very real human consequences: real people lost real jobs (that paid real well) in real numbers.

    Further, as Buchanan continued on the campaign trail throughout the Midwest, he saw the scope of the ravaged middle class of ordinary Americans, people who had no hope of ever finding another job that paid anywhere near as well as the manufacturing jobs they had lost.

    Because Buchanan was both a smart and a compassionate man, he was able to do what almost none in professional politics were able to do: he changed his mind and his platform on a crucial issue. He began to run as an anti-free trader.

    In spite of ferocious opposition from the pro-Wall Street, establishment Republicans (embodied by George H.W. Bush), Buchanan came from nowhere to come reasonably close to winning the nomination in 1992. His success scared the crap out of the establishment Republicans and they made sure in 1996 that Buchanan could not do it again. (They nominated Bob Dole, a candidate guaranteed to lose. He did, of course.)

    After that, Buchanan wrote “The Great Betrayal” in which he bemoaned free-trade theory and the unthinking allegiance to it from the professional pundits, the politicians and the professoriate.

    He has continuously and loudly condemned free-trade ever since.

    • Agree: Biff, Bill Jones
    • Thanks: Crazy Horse
  66. WHAT says:

    No, it will usher it in.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
  67. Hibernian says:
    @Jake

    There are plenty of young homosexual priests to take their place.

  68. Hibernian says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Were it not for the Catholic Church Europe would have become an absolute wasteland and stayed that way forever after the fall of Rome.

  69. JUSA says:

    Will coronavirus kill the JWO?

    I hope so.

    All it has to do is take down Wall Street, and the JWO will collapse into a smoldering heap.

  70. @Rurik

    Oh, goodie: how nice to see the children playing Ring Around a Rosie
    Just like they did in the plague years.

    And, the globalists (Koch brothers, Soros, etc…) also demand Europe and North America open their gates to unlimited armies of Third World immigrants and “refugees”,

    Based simply on wikipedia on Charles Koch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Koch (his brother died in 2019), your statement is ill-informed:

    He is opposed to corporate welfare and told the National Journal that his “overall concept is to minimize the role of government and to maximize the role of private economy and to maximize personal freedoms.” [which sounds vaguely Ron Paulian to me] He has expressed concern for too much government regulation in the U.S., stating that “we could be facing the greatest loss of liberty and prosperity since the 1930s.” In addition, he has warned that drastic government overspending and a decline of the free enterprise system will prove detrimental to long-term social and economic prosperity.
    . . .
    Koch disdains “big government” and the “political class.”[20] He believes billionaires Warren Buffett and George Soros, [ position changed drastically–or foolishly– with creation of Quincy Institute] who fund organizations with different ideologies, “simply haven’t been sufficiently exposed to the ideas of liberty.” Koch claimed “prosperity is under attack” by the Obama administration and sought to warn “of policies that threaten to erode our economic freedom and transfer vast sums of money to the state.””

    Koch funds Mercatus Center at George Mason Univ in Virginia, not Pritzker-headed CSIS or Harvard-Yale-Hopkins; and CATO, not WINEP.

    Koch operates in the global marketplace but, in my opinion, should be understood and cited with more nuance.

    Although — Koch owns Quilted Northern Tissue and is, therefore, one of the major beneficiaries of current pandemic hysteria.
    Maybe Charles Koch created Covid19 to sell toilet paper?
    (I bought canned tuna. No matter how much relish you mix with TP, it’s still got bad mouth-feel.)

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Rurik
  71. @SolontoCroesus

    Mercatus currently runs the following research programs: The Project for the Study of American Capitalism; Technology Policy Project; State and Local Policy Project; Spending and Budget Initiative; Program on the American Economy and Globalization; Program on Monetary Policy; Program on Financial Regulation; and Program for Economic Research on Regulation.

    Rob Stein, a Democratic strategist, has called Mercatus “ground zero for deregulation policy in Washington.” The Wall Street Journal has called the Mercatus Center “the most important think tank you’ve never heard of”

    Mercatus produced Fight of the Century: Keynes vs Hayak

  72. Biff says:
    @bluedog

    So don’t expect whats not gong to happen as far as making America great again for that takes balls and Americans lost theirs years ago.!!!.!!!

    Balls are weak and sensitive. If you want to be tough – get a vagina. Those things can take a pounding.

  73. KenH says:
    @Chinaman

    Wait, what ? the coronavirus originated from America ?

    Global Research is not an authoritative and definitive source but you’re free to believe whatever makes you makes you feel good. In fact, it seems that the vast majority of news outlets and websites traffic more in speculation than hard facts and while I haven’t discounted the prospect of coronovirus originating in the U.S. most of the evidence right now points to China and the Wuhan wet market or sloppy containment practices in the bio weapons lab nearby.

    Face saving is a cultural trait of the Chinese which is why they are defensively lashing out and pointing fingers at everyone except themselves.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  74. TGD says:
    @Malla

    More good karma by America include, America’s movie industry Hollywood never made many anti-Communist movies (Red Dawn is the only one I know)…

    The 1956 movie, “Invasion of the Body Snatchers,” was intended to portray a world where everyone thought and acted alike for a common purpose- the takeover of the world- ie communism.

    Most people never had any idea of the original intent and enjoyed it for its superb portrayal of fear. It’s been remade 5 times since the original.

    • Thanks: Malla
  75. MEH 0910 says:

    George H. W. Bush New World Order Quotes

    Vince McMahon NWO Promo – All Segments [2002.01.14] Smackdown

    [MORE]

    The nWo’s WWE Debut

  76. Chinaman says:
    @KenH

    The global research article is citing a Taiwanese virologist who claim that the strains in Taiwan and Australia is genetically distinct from the strains in China and their common ancestor must arise from somewhere else. You can trace its evolution of the virus via the accumulation of its mutation. The logic goes that if virus arise in China and spread to other countries, Patients in China would already harbour those strains. Only the US have all 5 strains of the virus that are known now. This is not conspiracy theory, this is genetic evidence and inductive logic

    Too bad you don’t know Chinese or I can send the link for the video.

    The Japanese were the first to propose that the virus originated from the US since a couple was diagnosed after going to a trip in Hawaii. The Italian patient 0 also went to Hawaii. Both have no connection to China.

    As hominem “ poison the well” attacks aside, I would love someone to address these points above.

    • Replies: @KenH
  77. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Oh, goodie: how nice to see the children playing Ring Around a Rosie
    Just like they did in the plague years.

    hmm..

    almost sounds like you’re trying to be snide, S2C

    a little cranky?

    The photo of the children playing, isn’t about the cornhole virus, per se

    Rather it’s simply a snapshot in time of a lighthearted moment when adults and children were at ease in their own country, their own community, and in their own skin. No hatred or fear or existential angst written across their furrowed brows for being ‘racists’! It’s almost hard to imagine (British) children so care-free (on London’s streets) today. And hence the photo. I had no way of knowing it would offend anyone, least of all you.

    Based simply on wikipedia on Charles Koch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Koch (his brother died in 2019), your statement is ill-informed:

    Wiki?!

    Are you being sarcastic?

    Koch operates in the global marketplace but, in my opinion, should be understood and cited with more nuance.

    It’s you, I suspect, who’s being had by the PR intrigues of Koch and Soros, pretending to be against wars, as they foment globalism and Cato Institute-like open borders.

    The anti-war bullshit is a ruse, dude. They know it’s a popular sentiment, so they use their billions to make people believe they give a fuck about Endless Wars, when they never have. All those rats care about are their own petty, little agendas, (white genocide for Soros, and more billions for Koch), so these billionaire get together to promote their respective agendas, by playing people like you into thinking they’re anti-war. Or that they have some smidgen of integrity. (They don’t. It’s all a PR stunt ; )

    (And it’s almost a sin for you to mention Ron Paul in the same post as these cretins)

    vvvvvvvvvvvvvv


    “A new foreign policy think tank that will ‘promote an approach to the world based on diplomacy and restraint rather than threats, sanctions, and bombing.’ YES PLEASE,” tweeted In The Now‘s Rania Khalek.


    Others have been a touch more skeptical.

    “Hi Joshua, I’ve got a bridge on sale. You seem very interested in buying such. Gimme a call,” Moon of Alabama tweeted at Landis.

    Such skepticism is warranted. It is true that the Quincy Institute’s co-fouder Trita Parsi has been a vocal opponent of US imperialism towards Iran and elsewhere, but it is also true that the Kochs and Soros have both acted as toxic facilitators of US imperialism.

    Charles Koch has been a major donor to the Iraq-raping think tank American Enterprise Institute, which has returned the favor by aggressively churning out narrative management on the public image of the Koch brothers. George Soros is a major funder of the NATO narrative management firm Atlantic Council, which has been a driving force behind the campaign manufacturing consent for escalations against Russia, something the Quincy Institute claims to oppose.

    So if you’re interested in viewing world events through a lens that is untainted by corrupt narrative management, some skepticism of this new Quincy Institute is not just appropriate, but absolutely required.

    Or, just read the article.

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/07/01/new-soroskoch-funded-think-tank-claims-to-oppose-us-forever-war/

    As for Koch’s “concern for too much government regulation”, what those scumfucks are talking about, isn’t the federal government’s regulation/demand that all businesses have transgender bathrooms, but rather the kind of government regulation that prevents monopolies, or banks from using tax payer-insured investments to gamble at the casino with those funds.

    They want a free-for-all to rape the planet of every last blade of grass, and the federal government (tax payers) to subsidize their greed.

    Maybe Charles Koch created Covid19 to sell toilet paper?
    (I bought canned tuna. No matter how much relish you mix with TP, it’s still got bad mouth-feel.)

    more snide

    I guess you were taken in by the Koch’s selfless love of Iran.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Rurik
  78. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Malla

    America’s movie industry Hollywood never made many anti-Communist movies

    They made loads of anti-communist movies in the 50s. A constant stream of them. And communists were the bad guys in countless American TV shows in the 50s and 60s.

  79. @Rurik

    “Snide?” Moi?

    No, Rurik; I’m a victim of I-wanna-believe-there-are-billionaires-whose-philanthropy-is-USA-focused.
    Not zionist.

    (and an ungovernable tendency for sarcasm.)

    For example, I wanted to believe so intensely that Trita Parsi’s NIAC was good for Iran that I hosted an event & had lunch with him (my treat, no tuna fish). Parsi was mentored by the late Ruhi Ramazani of University of Virginia. https://news.virginia.edu/content/memoriam-renowned-iranian-scholar-ruhi-ramazani but Parsi is not Ruhi, and UVa has changed radically without Ramazini’s presence and influence.
    Parsi has been sponsored by Rockefeller Fdn & I don’t even know who else. The career path of a public intellectual — Parsi, Bacevich, Walt, Mearsheimer, the whole gang — is touch and go, not like, say, a machinist at Lordstown who can count on a single paycheck able to support a family + retirement pension (there’s that snide again). Jewish public intellectuals like Friedman, Kristol, Boot, etc. are as prominent as they are because, as Theodor Herzl observed in Der Judenstaat, https://www.gutenberg.org/files/25282/25282-h/25282-h.htm

    Being on the stock exchange, we are consequently exposed afresh to contempt. At the same time we continue to produce an abundance of mediocre intellects who find no outlet, and this endangers our social position as much as does our increasing wealth. Educated Jews without means are now rapidly becoming Socialists. Hence we are certain to suffer very severely in the struggle between classes, because we stand in the most exposed position in the camps of both Socialists and capitalists.


    I like your take on the picture of the English children: post-Dickensian; shades of Mary Poppins.
    Plus, it turns out the story that Ring Around a Rosie was about plague has been debunked. Never let facts get in the way of a snide remark.

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  80. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    The anti-war bullshit is a ruse, dude. They know it’s a popular sentiment, so they use their billions to make people believe they give a fuck about Endless Wars, when they never have. All those rats care about are their own petty, little agendas, (white genocide for Soros, and more billions for Koch), so these billionaire get together to promote their respective agendas, by playing people like you into thinking they’re anti-war. Or that they have some smidgen of integrity. (They don’t. It’s all a PR stunt ; )

    A very quick little Internet search on (the so-called anti-war) Trita Parsi (Solonto’s apparent hero these days ; )

    >><<


    National Security Advisor Zbig Brzezinski dies at 89. Without a doubt, one of the sharpest minds of the past century, an absolute giant.

    ..
    Years later, while serving as President Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor, he was having dinner with the Shah and Farah at the White House.

    (so this statesman giant on the world’s stage, was also chummy with the Shah, according to the ‘pro-Iranian’ Trita Parsi)

    We will never know if Zbig would have become the Shah’s Foreign Minister or not. But we do know that whether we agree with his polices or not, he was one of the sharpest strategic thinkers and players of the past century.

    Washington sure could use his guidance today.

    https://iranian.com/2017/05/27/zbig-brzezinski-almost-became-irans-foreign-minister/

    His guidance today?!

    War with Russia, anyone?

    http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/10/brzezinski-to-putin-stop-hitting-our-al-qaeda-or-its-world-war-iii/

    “Oh, what a tangled web we weave…”

  81. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    No, Rurik; I’m a victim of I-wanna-believe-there-are-billionaires-whose-philanthropy-is-USA-focused.
    Not zionist.

    I can’t even imagine such a thing. The decency and goodness of men like Henry Ford and Walt Disney were assassinated at the public square. As a lesson to all others.

    As for the Koch, I don’t think they have a ‘focus’ other than more billions for themselves. (I wonder how those billions are helping the dead one- in hell these days…)

    ‘But Satan, I’ll give you four billion dollars not to stick that pitchfork in my ass again’

    (we can dream ; )

    For example, I wanted to believe so intensely that Trita Parsi’s NIAC was good for Iran that I hosted an event & had lunch with him (my treat, no tuna fish).

    Before I read this post of yours, I did a quick check on the Quincy Institute, to glimmer what could possibly motivate S2C to defend the Koch bros. (my antenna was well-tweaked, apparently ; )

    And I think you’re right about Parsi. An intellectual whore. Hence his (gushing) support for Brzezinski, and his myopia vis-a-vis the Shah.

    But those were the talking points that paid at the time. Bacevich is another gapping whore pulling his credentials wide apart for all cummer$.

    At least, if I’m correct about your assessment of Parsi.

  82. KenH says:
    @Chinaman

    Again, the Taiwanese virologist is just one opinion/hypothesis and there’s no scientific consensus that the strains found in Taiwan and Australia are distinct from those in China or that America is home to all five strains.

    The other thing you are overlooking is that areas of the U.S. and Northern Italy that have the most cases also have sizable Chinese-American communities. States with very few or no Chinese, like West Virginia and Alabama have no cases at the moment.

    In time it could turn out to be true but there seems to be a lot of finger pointing and face saving by various nations. That the Coronavirus originated in China does not make the Chinese inherently bad or evil (or make the American people bad or evil if its origin is here). It just means that’s where the virus originated and it’s not hate or racism to point out simple facts.

    But it’s definitely a searing indictment of globalism and interdependence and how America can be held hostage by low wage nations like China.

  83. @KenH

    I guess you have not been waatching news about the racism againt asians worldwide , if it comes out that americans had a hand in spreading this virus to china ,you know theres going to be zero racism against americans like, in the past how h1n1 was handled and killed about a half million people,also aids originated in the US and has killed millions,so its easy for you to say.

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  84. Chinaman says:
    @KenH

    There is no scientific consensus because there is no data and no testing. The bat-eating Chinaman is so ridiculous narrative that it is on par with a deliberate bioattack by America. All these are narratives and conjectures with nothing to back them up.

    My working hypothesis before the genetic sequencing of the strains was that it was a bioweapon leak since the Chinese did work on it. The fact that they were mute about its origin but treating it like a bio attack suggest to me it was a coverup as the CCP is wont to do, I do make an effort to be intellectually honest and follow the evidence wherever it leads me.

    The evolutionary history of the strains and that the common ancestor is not in China present convincing evidence that something is amissed here. Saving face or ulterior motives aside, I am interested in the truth. I am agnostic as to how the virus originated and will withhold my judgement until further evidence.

    But to try to stifle discussion and scepticism of the western narrative by calling it “saving face” or blame game is no different from the Chinese communist government trying to cover up their previous crimes.

    You will make a great communist cadet , Comrade Ken.

  85. KenH says:

    There is no scientific consensus because there is no data and no testing. The bat-eating Chinaman is so ridiculous narrative that it is on par with a deliberate bioattack by America.

    Bat soup is an entre and delicacy served in China. Again, this is statement of fact but like most non-Westerners you’re very thin skinned about this and interpret any statement of fact as a grievous insult and race baiting.

    China has been ground zero for a number of pandemics throughout history most notably the bubonic plague and more recently, SARS, and until proven otherwise, Coronavirus. Before you claim swine flu originated in the U.S. know that it actually originated in Mexico.
    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/qa/where-did-the-2009-swine-flu-outbreak-originate

    But to try to stifle discussion and scepticism of the western narrative by calling it “saving face” or blame game is no different from

    Stating my opinion is not “stifling the discussion”, but your guilt tripping of anyone who disagree with is. Your defensiveness is not unlike “conservative” Chinese-American Kathy Zhu who claims race doesn’t matter but leaped to the defense of her racial kinsmen in China when jokes about bat soup began circulating on Twitter. Yet she screams “white supremacy” at any white person who dares identify with or defend fellow white people.

  86. KenH says:
    @eastkekiisawhiteguy

    Cry me a river. It’s white people who are insulted, mocked and impugned 24/7/365. Not by China but by the Jewish controlled media. If the American media was taken over by Chinese it would actually be an improvement for whites.

    AIDS originated in West Africa, not the United States unless you’re going to give me the tin foil hat stuff about it being created by the CIA to wipe out black people and other POC whose populations are currently exploding.

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