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Sen. Bernie Sanders may be on the cusp of both capturing the Democratic nomination and transforming his party as dramatically as President Donald Trump captured and remade the Republican Party.

After his sweep of the Nevada caucuses, following popular vote victories in Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders has the enthusiasm and the momentum, as the crucial battles loom in South Carolina on Saturday and Super Tuesday on March 3.
The next eight days could decide it all.

And what is between now and next Tuesday that might interrupt Sanders’ triumphal march to the nomination in Milwaukee?

One possible pitfall is tonight’s debate in South Carolina.

Sanders will be taking constant fire as a socialist whose nomination could end in a rout in November, the loss of Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s House and the forfeit of any chance of recapturing the Senate.

Yet Sanders has often been attacked along these lines, to little avail.

He’s shown himself capable of defending his positions, and attacks on Sanders may simply expose his opponents’ own political desperation.

“Buchanan,” Richard Nixon once instructed me after I went to work for him in 1966, “Whenever you hear of a coalition forming up to ‘Stop X,’ be sure to put your money on X.”

Nixon recalled the Cleveland governors conference after Barry Goldwater defeated Nelson Rockefeller in the California primary. There, on the Cuyahoga River, Govs. Rockefeller, George Romney and Bill Scranton colluded absurdly to derail the Goldwater express.

A second event is the anticipated endorsement of Biden by Rep. Jim Clyburn, the most influential black politician in South Carolina, who warns that nominating a socialist like Sanders invites electoral disaster.

Yet Clyburn’s endorsement could be a mixed blessing.

With it, Biden becomes the favorite in the primary where 60% of the vote is African American. If Biden cannot beat Sanders there, in his firewall state, with Clyburn behind him, where does Biden win?

Biden faces another problem: Billionaire Tom Steyer has pumped millions into South Carolina, hired black leaders and pledged to support reparations for slavery. Polls show Steyer with rising support among black voters who might otherwise have stood by Biden.

For Biden, South Carolina is do-or-die.

If he wins here, he is revived. Yet, still, he lacks the broad and deep support Sanders has and the funds Michael Bloomberg has to be competitive in all 14 states holding primaries March 3, including the megastates of Texas and California.

Sanders is predicting victories in both and has been gaining in the polls on Sen. Elizabeth Warren even in Massachusetts, her home state, which also holds its primary on Super Tuesday.

The basic question: With Biden, Buttigieg, Warren, Steyer and Klobuchar — none of whom has beaten Sanders in the popular vote anywhere, and all competing in South Carolina and Super Tuesday three days later — who beats a surging Sanders? When and where do they beat him?

Bloomberg can probably buy enough votes to win some states. But would the other Democratic candidates, who have fought for a year, stand aside to yield the field so this ex-Republican oligarch can save their party from Sanders? Why should they?

And where is the evidence that Bloomberg can beat Sanders? Or beat Trump?

Bloomberg’s first debate raises questions of what, besides his $60 billion, qualifies him to be on the stage or in the race.

The Democratic establishment worries that if the “moderates” in the race do not start falling on their swords, dropping out, and joining behind a single candidate — Biden, Buttigieg or Bloomberg — to challenge Sanders, they will lose the nomination to Sanders and the election to Trump.

The establishment is right to worry.

While Sanders’ chances of becoming president are slim, the odds he wins the nomination and reshapes the party are good and have been improving weekly.

What model does socialist Sanders have in mind for the Democratic Party? Something like the British Labour Party of Jeremy Corbyn.

ORDER IT NOW

“Medicare for All.” Abolition of private health insurance. War on Wall Street. The Green New Deal. Free college tuition. Forgiveness of all student debt. Open borders. Supreme Court justices committed to Roe v. Wade. Welfare for undocumented migrants. A doubling of the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

Winston Churchill once observed: “Some regard private enterprise as if it were a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look upon it as a cow that they can milk. Only a handful see it for what it really is — the strong horse that pulls the whole cart.”

Sanders sees free market capitalism as a fat goose that lays golden eggs and can be hectored, squeezed and beaten into producing lots more.

And those most widely receptive to his message — are the young.

Welcome to the Party of JFK as reconceived by Bernie Sanders.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2020 Creators.com.

 
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  1. JasonT says:

    Buchanan. You simply have no clue what you are talking about. Sanders is not a communist nor is he really a ‘socialist’. But he does understand that the government is a government is more than just a government for the rich. The average person sees this.

    If Sanders wins the Democratic nomination, he will wipe the floor with Trump. No one else stands a chance against Trump because they are all the same as Trump.

  2. American politics necessitates agnosticism. It’s simply the nature of the beast.

    If Sanders is elected president, he won’t make good on many of his current promises, and the only one that would herald a genuine shift in the political winds would be holding Israel’s feet to the fire. If universities become tuition-free, they’ll either have to make admission standards more demanding or become even less attractive venues to those sincerely seeking higher education.

    Trump really won’t give a damn what his constituency thinks of him once elected to a second term — as if he does now. We’re likely to see some convenient rationale for a hotter war with Iran and increased surveillance of the American public. It would be nice if he were playing chess in our own dimension, but he’s far too embedded with the zionists to provide even the slightest glimmer of hope on that front.

    In the meantime, populism widens the arc of the pendulum, poised now to swing even further left of center, and it’s uncertain whether the momentum will slow anytime in the coming generations.

  3. @JasonT

    “If Sanders wins the Democratic nomination, he will wipe the floor with Trump.”

    Not so sure about that, but it will be a real contest, rather than a slam dunk for Trump, which it will be if any of the other dummocraps get the nom (where you and I are 100% in agreement), especially the odious zio-fellater extraordinaire, Peter Buttplug. If somehow Peter-eater were to get the dum’s nod, I predict the greatest electoral landslide in history for Trump. Middle class blacks and hispanics would likely leave the party in droves, and possibly change the dums’ demographics forever. They’d be splintered and impotent, like what happened to Labour in the UK this year. And pretty much all because of one little obnoxious interest group. A very, very powerful interest group.

    Or, to paraphrase another supreme judaeo hiney kisser, Bill “Lolita Express” Clinton:

    It’s the zionists, stupid.

    With Bernie vs Trump, we’d have a horse race, and one that would really polarize the nation, much like JFK vs. Nixon. Now THAT was a helluva contest, even if JFK won by nefarious means. And it would (hopefully) really allow a national dialog about so many key issues that we might actually get the public interested in politics again, get a big turnout, because no matter who wins in that scenario, anything that gets John Q. Public off its collective asses and motivated to participate, to think, to argue, to get mad as hell, is a good thing to my mind. And best of all, nobody gets a ‘mandate’, so that would hopefully temper extremist leanings each seem to have.

    Btw, I was a life-long democrat, but got so disgusted with Obomber that I de-registered to vote. I was pretty excited by Trumpenstein the candidate’s big talk about telling AIPAC he didn’t need their money, and saying he would end the idiotic ME wars for Israel, Assad must stay and let’s fight (not pamper) ISIS together, let’s end illegal immigration and build the wall, let’s rebuild American infrastructure, let’s put the middle class first, not last, etc., etc., and we all know what a pack of lies and bullshit that turned out to be. Now he’s Mr Zionist and the best slave president Israel ever had. He’s turned his back on the middle class, been the best friend the ultra-elites could hope for, and who knows what schemes he has in store for us if re-elected. War on Iran, anyone?

    Not saying I’ll re-register to vote if Bernie gets the nod, but the thought has crossed my mind. It gets tempered by the realization that Bernie, like the rest of them, will probably turn out to be just another zionist-elitist wolf in progressive sheep’s clothing……

  4. melpol says:

    There are few Pied Pipers in Politics with the devoted following as Sanders. Black and Latino minorities as well as other disenfranchised groups will vote him in and make him keep his promises. His cuts to the Trillion dollar defense budget will send every youngster to college and provide Medicare for all Americans. That is more than Trump is willing to do. Building up the biggest military is wasteful when we can defeat any enemy with what is at hand. Trump has given politicians unneeded big military contracts to take home to their states. He is overlooking the real needs of most Americans.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    , @Hypnotoad666
  5. Somebody got the headline wrong. It’s not JFK’s Party. It’s Bill Clinton’s Party.

    • Thanks: Dissident
    • Replies: @MEexpert
    , @Dissident
  6. @JasonT

    If Sanders wins the Democratic nomination, he will wipe the floor with Trump.

    What is your basis for the this?

    Trump is very popular with his base. Did you see the crowd that showed up for him in Iowa?

    Trump haters will vote anyone. That’s a given.

    But independent support for Trump has actually increased this year. The impeachment seems to have had the reverse effect on them.

    The DNC is rightly concerned that Trump is going to win. Trump will hit Sanders on his past. It’s not just the socialist label that Sanders gave himself. Sanders is a career politician and not some new outsider. He has made all kinds of loony left wing statements that the other candidates aren’t touching.

    I do think that Sanders has good intentions and really isn’t a socialist but Trump is good at playing the crowds and better at debating than the establishment wants to admit.

    I just don’t see it working for him but I do think he has the best chance compared to the other candidates. If Warren and the rest really hate Trump then they should drop out.

    • Agree: gsjackson
    • Replies: @JasonT
    , @SBaker
  7. Kronos says:

    I was pretty excited by Trumpenstein the candidate’s big talk about telling AIPAC he didn’t need their money, and saying he would end the idiotic ME wars for Israel, Assad must stay and let’s fight (not pamper) ISIS together, let’s end illegal immigration and build the wall, let’s rebuild American infrastructure, let’s put the middle class first, not last, etc., etc., and we all know what a pack of lies and bullshit that turned out to be.

    Both Trump and Sanders face the extraordinary problem of dismantling the Baby Boomer Stock Market Superstructure first created in the early 1980s. The Boomers created a Faustian deal with the financial sector to do everything possible to increase their stock portfolios and annual returns. Even if that meant massive offshoring, immigration (really indentured servitude,) and de-industrializing the US. Any nationalistic/protectionist policies (Trump) or New Deal/Socialism (Sanders) will undoubtedly impact Baby Boomer retirement accounts and overall asset prices. The Boomer Yuppies are on their way out but still possess substantial electoral/political clout. Both Trump and Sanders must discover a formula of gradual economic reform that satisfies their non-boomer bases but doesn’t create a boomer backlash.

  8. Tulsi Gabbard seems to me a far better candidate than Sanders. She has broader appeal and much better foreign policy than Sanders, and I have little doubt who’d prevail in debates between Tulsi and Trump; without losing her temper, she’d expose him for the policy lightweight and fluff-ball that he is.

    I hope that at the very least we’ll see Tulsi as VP nomination. If Sanders wins the nomination, he’d be well advised to select a VP even less popular with the Deep State than he is. That’s insurance. JFK had Zionist bumboy LBJ foisted on him at the 1960 Convention and we all know how that ended.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  9. @JasonT

    Medicare for All.” Abolition of private health insurance. War on Wall Street. The Green New Deal. Free college tuition. Forgiveness of all student debt. Open borders. Supreme Court justices committed to Roe v. Wade. Welfare for undocumented migrants. A doubling of the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

    Defending all of these positions is going to be a real challenge for Sanders. While the young may not see problems with getting these things passed, older people will. The Republicans and Libertarians had more votes than the Democrats and Greens in 2016. The Libertarians cost Trump 21 ECs when he lost MN, NV, NH and 1 delegate in Maine. Trump will likely not face any Libertarian challenge like he did in 2016. Sanders is going to have to win a lot of states that Clinton lost or should have lost.

    Depending on who Sanders’ VP is, I will probably vote for him, especially if his VP is Tulsi. But I do not think he is the favorite to win by any stretch of the imagination. If he picks a horrible VP then I think the odds of him losing are quite good. A couple of these things Sanders wants — abolition of private health insurance (which will not happen even with Medicare for All), Green New Deal, open borders, and welfare for undocumented workers are going to turn a lot of people off. Me included.

  10. Eric135 says:

    Sanders won’t get the nomination. They’re rigging the election against him. Who will get the nomination? Bloomberg? Hillary? Who knows? But it won’t be Sanders.

    Trump will win no matter who he runs against. His followers, who he has betrayed, worship him as though he were a god. There is a real Trump cult out there. His base is secure.

    The rest of the country is generally satisfied with him. In the latest poll I saw today, 65% of all registered voters think he’ll be reelected.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  11. Svevlad says:

    American capitalism is at this point a rabid, insane horse, trampling everything and shitting all over the furniture. A man can’t live with a mad horse.

  12. Paul says:

    Winston Churchill once claimed: “Only a handful see it [capitalism] for what it really is — the strong horse that pulls the whole cart.”

    LOL. Winston, it is the workers who pull the cart!

    • Agree: Alden
  13. swamped says:

    “There, on the Cuyahoga River, Govs. Rockefeller, George Romney and Bill Scranton colluded absurdly to derail the Goldwater express”…they needn’t have bothered, LBJ did it for them a few months later, in one of the biggest landslides in U.S. presidential election history. And so it will be with kooky Sanders, all that toil & trouble in two grueling primaries, just to take a drubbing in the main event in the fall. To paraphrase Goldwater, extremism in the defense of socialism is no vice – but neither is it a winning platform. Extremists on both sides always lose in the end.
    By the by, what are “undocumented migrants”? That anything like illegal aliens? Looks like the Party of Sanders may already have “hectored, squeezed and beaten” some unlikely commentators into “reconceived” language concessions. What would Barry say?

  14. “President Donald Trump captured and remade the Republican Party.”

    When did this happen? From what I’ve seen, Trump has been captured and remade himself, but whether he was captured by the GOP or by the donor class is the question. Sanders is obviously just going through the motions while waiting to be bought off.

  15. KenH says:

    Biden faces another problem: Billionaire Tom Steyer has pumped millions into South Carolina, hired black leaders and pledged to support reparations for slavery.

    Well old commie Feel the Bern sure isn’t going to be outdone by that. If not tonight he will also pledge support for reparations and allow blacks to torture and murder up to one million white people a year (Republicans will panic and offer a conservative version of pauperizing 500K whites but not killing them).

    Bernie has no earthly idea how much his free everything for everybody (except right of center white people) programs will cost. Bernie’s zombie apocalypse base looks to be about 90-95 % white judging by his rallies. Even though hispanics don’t show up to his rallies he seems to poll much better with them than the blacks.

    Despite all this Bernie is gaining momentum and has snatched the energy and enthusiasm away from Trump. I suspect in the debates Trump will say that Bernie is socialist and socialism will be bad for blacks and on top of that Bernie hates Israel, but I don’t think those milquetoast talking points are good enough to ensure Bernie’s defeat.

  16. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    In all of this warmed over politics-as-sportsball, Beltway drivel, why no mention of Uncle Sam’s increasingly militarized imperialism or fiat dollar?

    Because Red v Blue and these episodic Most Important Elections Ever are nothing but puppet show, which “Mr. Paleoconservative” serves as Stagehand Right. More sheep need to be herded into voting, so free tuition and medical care have replaced transgendered statues and Confederate bathrooms.

  17. JasonT says:
    @John Johnson

    Popular vote in 2016 was 46.1% for Trump and 48.2% for Clinton. Clinton won the popular vote despite being the worst presidential candidate in the history of U.S. politics who alienated a large portion of the Democratic party base. With Sanders, who actually better represents the desires of the Democratic party base, the popular vote will go up, which will translate into many more electoral college votes despite the electoral college’s skew toward states that have predominantly voted Republican.

    Make Tulsi Gabbard Sanders’ running mate and the Democrats will probably win a few states that normally go Republican.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @follyofwar
  18. @Syd Walker

    Tulsi Gabbard seems to me a far better candidate than Sanders. She has broader appeal and much better foreign policy than Sanders

    This shows how group think is endemic to liberalism.

    Gabbard pulls well with independents and is actually a moderate.

    For the most part she has been ignored by the party.

    The “elect a woman” crowd has rallied around Warren even though she lied about being an Indian which means her academic career was a fraud.

    Why is Klobuchar even in the race? No one knows.

    Liberals have a hard time thinking about electability and they seem to be getting worse.

  19. @melpol

    What, exactly, would be the point of sending every American “youngster” to college when the bulk of them have rarely picked up a book on their own initiative in their entire lives? Harry Potter and “graphic novels” don’t count.

  20. onebornfree says: • Website

    “Will JFK’s Party Become Sanders’ Party?””

    Who cares? Ultimately, either way it makes no difference.

    Come election time, as per usual, the US slaves will have a “choice” between the “in your face” socialism/communism of the Democrats, versus the [very] slightly disguised socialism/communism of the Republicans, [including socialist Trump].

    Or maybe this time around there’s a further, er, “choice” – a third party candidate with his/her own nuanced/disguised version of socialism/communism that they promise will “make everything better”.

    This Much Is Guaranteed:

    No candidate on either side will ever talk seriously [let alone lies half-way convincingly!], about fully restoring individual freedom, fully restoring the 1st.amendment, getting rid of all anti 2nd amendment laws [+ all anti-3rd, 4th,5th,6th, 7th.8th.9th.10th amendment laws], abolishing the income tax, ending the drug war, getting out of all foreign wars, abolishing the Dept. of “Education”, Social Security, the FDA, the EPA, the Federal Reserve, the FBI, the CIA, the Pentagon etc. etc etc., and all the rest of the vast mass of entirely unconstitutional , wholly criminal, federal agencies IMMEDIATELY,and returning the Federal government to its original constitutional limitations IMMEDIATELY.

    Or even [ if that much is simply too much to ask], going half-way down that path- or even just taking one single step down that path. No one.

    Dems or Repubs, its all just a giant shit-show; Kabuki theatre for the vast mass of indoctrinated slaves who now make up 99% of the population in “the land of the Free”.

    And so it goes…….What a frickin’ joke!

    Regards, onebornfree

  21. @JasonT

    With Sanders, who actually better represents the desires of the Democratic party base, the popular vote will go up, which will translate into many more electoral college votes despite the electoral college’s skew toward states that have predominantly voted Republican.

    It doesn’t matter if the popular vote goes up in states like California or NY. Sanders has to win battleground states and I see no reason to believe that they will easily switch from Trump.

    He cant “wipe the floor” when most states have already been decided. Is it possible that more voters turn out? Yes but the Democrats hope for that in every election. If he was really that popular with the base then there wouldn’t be so many other candidates right now.

    The DNC is correct to be worried. He still has to debate Trump and because of this divisive primary there will be Warren and Biden voters that stay home. Like it or not there are Democrats that will be worried about Sanders tanking the stock market with all his trillion dollar spending talk. Bloomberg or Steyer might run anyways and split the vote. It won’t be an easy election for Sanders.

    Make Tulsi Gabbard Sanders’ running mate and the Democrats will probably win a few states that normally go Republican.

    That would be a good pick, I’ll agree with you there.

  22. For those who are fans of “accelerationism” nothing could be more delightful than a brokered democrat convention in which the party elite snatches the nomination away from Sanders and gives it to plutocrat Bloomberg. Milwaukee could well be a repeat of what happened in the streets of Chicago at the democrat convention in 1968.

    If the democrats fracture in two as a result, ending the two-party tyranny, it would be a wonderful thing. And, if it removes fumbling Pelosi from her Speakership that would be so much the better. One does not even have to be a fan of Trump (which I’m not) to understand that the democrats, with their “RUSSIA” hysteria, have become toxic to our future.

    Who wants four more years of Tweeter Trump, with vengeful Pelosi nipping at his ankles like an angry poodle, while Schiff and co. plan ever more phony impeachments? Personally, I wouldn’t mind seeing a president Bloomberg as long as the legislature is solidly republican. In a sane country, which the US is definitely not, they could work well together.

    • Agree: John Regan
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  23. melpol says:

    Many kids after finishing high school remain unemployed and resort to drug dealing and prostitution. Instead of being arrested and being sent to prison, colleges can contain them. Many will go on to get a job. College professors can hold education classes for practicing prostitutes and drug dealers. Free college admissions is one avenue of crime prevention. Under the watchful eye of security guards some can go on to earn a college diploma.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
  24. @JasonT

    John Nance Garner’s take on the vice presidency also applies to the popular vote: “It isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit.”

    Trump won the Electoral College by a whopping 304-227 (with 7 faithless electors). That is what really counts.

    Also, take away the formerly Golden State of California, (where Trump lost by 4.2 million votes), and Trump won the other 49 states by 1.3 million. Unless the democrats break apart (which hopefully they will this cycle), the republicans may never win the popular vote in another national election. Long live the Electoral College!

    • Agree: SBaker
  25. @follyofwar

    If the democrats fracture in two as a result, ending the two-party tyranny, it would be a wonderful thing.

    This is also what I concluded.

    I see the best case scenario being that Sanders loses a brokered convention because of super-delegates and then creates a third party. Or better yet because a billionaire tried to buy the election. I actually agree with Sanders on some issues but this two party system is the main problem.

    But I think the DNC is about to give up. Sanders is too far ahead and their so called moderates are terrible. Their best hope is to get behind Sanders and stop the infighting.

    I don’t think the DNC is to blame for this awful lineup. I think most liberals are too far from reality and can’t see why it might be a bad idea to run a homo or a feminist that scolded White people while pretending to be an Indian.

  26. @melpol

    What will the entrance requirements be for these wannabe hookers, hustlers, pimps and drug dealers aspiring to enter the halls of American academe? Will there be any requirements at all?

    How about the large percentage of them who cannot read or write or do math above the level of a fifth or six grader? Will they all be awarded a free path to a university degree under the watchful eye of the security state?

    • Replies: @melpol
    , @follyofwar
  27. melpol says:
    @Buck Ransom

    Entrance requirements to the college of their choice is an General Education Diploma (GED). Street people will be paid and trained to get their GED. From there on they will be bused to their college and be given a spot in a dormitory. Cash, food, and a clothing allowance will be provided. College classes will be made easier for the slow learner, special instructors will insure their progress. Violence will not be tolerated. Victims of violence can have the guilty student punished. Three time violent offenders will be expelled for 14 days. Graduation is guaranteed for all students who follow the behavioral guidelines.

    • LOL: Buck Ransom
  28. Tulip says:

    Sanders is just like Corbyn, with the exception that Britain has the NHS, and 2/3rds of American primary voters say that health care is their #1 issue.

    Sanders is just like Corbyn, with the exception that Corbyn tried to punt on Brexit which happened to be the most important and salient issue in the U.K. electorate.

    Sanders is just like Corbyn, with the exception that the demographics in England reflect America in the 1990’s, not in 2020.

    Sanders is just like Corbyn, with the exception that all the polling shows him defeating Trump in national polling.

    Sanders is just like Corbyn, with the exception that Sanders is an experienced, charismatic and skilled politician.

    In sum, Sanders is just like Corbyn in the same way that Denmark is just like the USSR under Stalin.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  29. SBaker says:

    Who is this career politician of 4 decades? Well, he has had 3 accomplishments; the naming of 2 post offices and some bill I can’t recall. He is the red, decrepit, swamp creature and leeching DC bureaucrat if ever there was one. Bernie, after marrying an ogre of some sort, celebrated by visiting the former Soviet Union where he was inspired by the greatest mass murder of all time, Joe Stalin, and his jewish heroes, Karl Marx, and Lenin.

    Any doubt that Bernie Sanders was a sane person and not a communist psychopath has just gone down the crapper with a load of Marxist propaganda from Cuba. The Castro Brother plus mass torturer/murderer Che Guevara (and possible assassin of Camille Cienfuegos (Sp is off)), were responsible for the deaths of more than 20,000 Cubans, many of whom supported the revolution against Batista. Add in more victims over the decades from the deaths in the red island prisons and downtown Havana torture centers, the shooting down of the unarmed civilian leafleting plane, the killing of fleeing refugees, and the tens of thousands of deaths caused by Castro/Che in Angola, Bolivia, etc., you find a great mass murderer in the Castros, Che and their supporters.

    Bernie is one of those supporters, a Munchausen by Distance killer (i.e. he supported the torture and killings in the name of a “free Cuba”).

    Consider anyone who supports him to be: a hardcore Marxist/communist psychopath, a welfare leech, a minority of many colors, or a brainwashed dupe (esp. the college indebted crowd) who are the equivalent of Hitler’s “Good Germans”–the first book burners during the rise of hitler’s socialist utopia.

    This is an “either, or” scenario. If you support Bernie, you are “the enemy” of America and should be exposed for it. No crap about “voting my conscience.”

    The German-American Bundists during WW2 were Hitler/Nazi members/supporters. PERIOD as Obama would say. No excuses for their treason and support of genocide.

    Let’s treat Bernie and his Red Minions the same as we did the Bundists.

  30. SBaker says:
    @John Johnson

    Sanders is a deep state professional politician of 40 years with no record of performance other than the naming of 2 post offices. Sanders has intentions, none of which are good for working American Citizens. He is full of wild-eyed talk, not just now but for 40 plus years–talk does not get the job done and the talk he is spewing makes him the primary enemy of working US citizens. Other than the queer with same-sex derangement syndrome (SSDS), Sanders is at the bottom of the list of dem candidates.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @bluedog
  31. @Tulip

    Sanders is just like Corbyn, with the exception that all the polling shows him defeating Trump in national polling.

    Which poll would that be?

    At best there have been a few national polls that rate him slightly more favorable than Trump.

    That’s not enough because of the electoral college.

    The DNC is worried for good reason. Sanders doesn’t pull enough moderate Republicans or independents.

    • Replies: @Tulip
  32. @SBaker

    Sanders has intentions, none of which are good for working American Citizens.

    He is right that Americans should have health care regardless of what they do for a living.

    But whether he can get that passed is the question.

    And just because I said he has good intentions doesn’t mean I think he would be a good president. In fact I think he should have stayed a senator.

    Sanders is at the bottom of the list of dem candidates

    Who would you run? Buttgieg doesn’t poll well with minorities or young voters. He’s basically riding on left-wing boomers. Warren faked being an Indian and there are all kinds of videos online where she lies about her background. Biden is anti-gun and just said he wants to sue the entire industry for making legal products. A Bloomberg or Steyer nomination would anger Sanders voters. Gabbard? Probably the best of the bunch but the base doesn’t like her. Go figure.

    The DNC should have found a decent moderate but here we are. Sanders is the best candidate they have and they can’t restart the whole process. If Warren and the rest actually care about beating Trump then they will drop out.

    • Replies: @SBaker
  33. Tulip says:
    @John Johnson

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/

    As far as the electoral college, I can’t tell you that. However, I remember a recent election when “the most qualified candidate for president ever” ran against a crazy Orange Hitler who was doomed to lose and deliver Congress to the Democrats and lost (and the GOP did pretty good in Congressional races).

    Economic indicators are decent, Trump is not an unknown anymore, but the economy is taking its time “trickling down”, and Trump is pissing a lot of people off with his tweets, and the Administration does seem hapless and running from one crisis or scandal to the next (granted MSM and opposition have a role in this).

    So I don’t know if Bernie can win or not, but I do predict any of the other democrats will definitively lose. The Democrats lost 12% of Sanders supporters to Trump last time, and that cost them the Electoral College. If they screw Sanders, I guarantee it will be more like 24-33% will vote for Trump this time.

    The other thing is Sanders does better in open primaries, because he has more support from Independents than the other Democratic candidates. He is crushing Trump 46% to 28% in registered Independents, and has better support than any of the other candidates:

    https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/13/1950/1919/Topline%20Reuters%202020%20Election%20Tracker%2002%2010%202020.pdf

    Not sure what “moderate Republicans” are. Trump is the candidate of Implicit White Identity, and he’s going to pick up the contingent of white voters that corresponds to Al Sharpton’s political base. Old Croakers on Medicare and Social Security (or soon to be) who already got their socialism and paid for by the young aren’t going to vote for someone who wants to extend their socialism to other people and tax them for it. The top 20% is seeing economic benefits from current political order, so is probably risk adverse to change. That leaves 80% minus some geezers and some white nationalist types.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  34. bluedog says:
    @SBaker

    Lol and your a joke so what else is new.!!!!

    • Replies: @SBaker
  35. Sanders – a skinny old heterosexual communist Jew – and

    Stacy Abrams – a relatively young Black lesbian communist landwhale –

    would be an almost perfectly balanced ticket. And

    might well win.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @Alden
  36. JFK’s party? Democratic Party has been Bloomberg and Soros’ party for quite awhile. It doesn’t matter if Bloomberg loses because his ilk own all the politicians.

    • Replies: @Presocratic
    , @Presocratic
  37. @JasonT

    If Sanders is a Socialist, then so’s FDR who himself said his greatest achievement was ‘saving capitalism’.

    It’s almost like the ruling class in the US wants a revolution, and those are always messy. In the same way FDR headed off revolution in the 1930s, Sanders can head one off in the 2020s and we can steer things toward a relatively safe, sane Western European type mixed economy.

    • Troll: SBaker
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  38. bluedog says:
    @Eric135

    Think your wrong or maybe wishing the independents,moderates the cross over voters who voted for Trump in a protest vote of Clinton, won’t have that problem this time, and the too close to call states will go to Sanders as for polls they aren’t worth a mouthful of spit, and I’m sure that you know it but it sounds good to some people.!!!

  39. @Tulip

    Not sure what “moderate Republicans” are. Trump is the candidate of Implicit White Identity, and he’s going to pick up the contingent of white voters that corresponds to Al Sharpton’s political base.

    Are you thinking Sanders is on the side of the workers? How many bills has he written as a Senator that benefited workers?

    How do you know he isn’t just another Democrat that makes big promises and then blames Republicans and moderate Democrats when he doesn’t get them?

    Not sure what “moderate Republicans” are. Trump is the candidate of Implicit White Identity, and he’s going to pick up the contingent of white voters that corresponds to Al Sharpton’s political base.

    Your description of his base is crass and denigrating.

    He will get voters of all races that don’t trust Democrats on borders. He will also pick up gun voters and people that don’t support 9 month abortions. There are also voters of all races that simply won’t trust the stock market to Sanders.

    The Democrat lineup they have is out of touch. If the election were held tomorrow Trump would win easily but like I said Sanders is their best bet. He never should have called himself a socialist or defended Cuba or honeymooned in the USSR or all the other left-wing loony stuff that Trump and the GOP will hit him with. The current Democrats running against him are still playing nice. The current Sanders is not the Sanders the people will learn about in November.

    All the Democrats needed was a reasonable centrist and they somehow screwed that up. Amazing.

  40. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    It’s almost like the ruling class in the US wants a revolution, and those are always messy.

    It’s the same dumb greed that preceded the Russian revolution.

    They don’t think the workers have the guts to do it.

  41. Dissident says:
    @WorkingClass

    It’s not JFK’s Party. It’s Bill Clinton’s Party.

    The Democrats have gotten quite a bit more radical and anti-American since Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton condemned Black crime, and spoke of the need to enforce our borders. And even as late as the 2008 election, no viable candidate from either party was for same-sex marriage [sic(k)], let alone hormone blockers for confused children, or any number of the other excesses of depravity and insanity we have since seen the Democrats (and, increasingly, Republicans as well) embrace.

    • Replies: @KenH
  42. Dissident says:
    @JasonT

    Sanders is not a communist nor is he really a ‘socialist’. But he does understand that the government is a government is more than just a government for the rich.

    1.) Last I heard, Sanders had gone pretty much full open borders. Who benefits from a continued flood of immigrants from the third-world? Isn’t it mainly the rich? Who suffers? Isn’t it mainly the working class?

    2.) Sanders cites Denmark as a model for the policies he advocates under the brand “Democratic Socialism”. The problem with that is that while such policies may very well work pretty well for a place with the demography of Denmark, the U.S. is wildly different. Of course, this absolutely critical difference is not allowed to be mentioned.

    3.) Assuming the establishment truly feels as hostile toward and threatened by Sanders as they appear to, it’s difficult not to feel at least some sympathy for the man.

  43. The only way the Dems can beat Trump is Michelle. At the Convention they can draft her to run against him, or have her run as Bernie’s VP. Either choice is a winning ticket.

    Moriarty aka Hillary may try to steal the nomination from Bernie, but this time the Dem apparatchiks will fail. He will have built up too much momentum by August. He will be the fastest go-kart on the track, but not ready for the Indy 500. They need Michelle, a McLaren with nitro.

  44. @John Johnson

    And I’m reminded that Lenin didn’t think he’d see a revolution in his lifetime. I believe he made this pronouncement very shortly before the revolution started.

    • Replies: @Alden
  45. KenH says:
    @Dissident

    The Democrats have gotten quite a bit more radical and anti-American since Bill Clinton.

    Bigly. Bill Clinton sharply rebuked Sister Souljah for saying that blacks need to take a day off to stop killing each other and start killing whites. Bill Clinton liked blacks but didn’t loathe white people as all righteous Democrat politicians must do today to maintain in good standing with the party. Bill Clinton wouldn’t have invited radical black advocates of cop killing to the oval office like Hussein Obama did.

    About 1-2 months before the 2016 election Bill Clinton was speaking before a crowd of blacks that were hectoring him with BLM talking points and Clinton angrily fired back “tell the truth” and reminded them of the black on black murders that are far more common. Even Trump didn’t have the gonads to say that.

    It’s more Barack Obama’s party these days but even now he’s been kicked to the curb by some quarters of the left as being too far to the right and not woke enough.

    • Thanks: Dissident
  46. SBaker says:
    @John Johnson

    Gabbard would be at the top. BS still at the bottom–he was once a member of CPUSA and is a psychopath in the closet. Trump is far better than any of the dem candidates since he sees value in US citizenship and US sovereignty. Trump also understands the economy and has helped to accelerate growth, and until the recent coronavirus scare, the market reflects this fact.

    • Disagree: John Chuckman
    • LOL: bluedog
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  47. JFK’s Party?

    Pat Buchanan only reveals how out of date he is.

    For a very long time, it’s been the Clinton party.

    Big difference between Clinton – Hillary or Bill – and John Kennedy.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @Alden
  48. SBaker says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Sanders – a skinny old heterosexual communist Jew – and

    Stacy Abrams – a relatively young Black lesbian communist landwhale –

    would be an almost perfectly balanced ticket. And

    might well win.

    Truth and humor makes for a top rated post. Keep up the good work, we need more American citizens posting here and fewer muslims, communists/socialists/fascists/dictators–a 4 sided coin always worth the same. Sanders is a closet psychopath.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  49. SBaker says:
    @bluedog

    Here’s a tip for you blueboy: America could have said FU Stalin and told him after WWII that his Reds can immediately go back to their mother country but we gave the murdering cutthroat Stalin everything he dreamed of. That SOB Kennedy could have eliminated the Castro killers but balked. There are consequences for historical blunders and intentions. Now we have this POS COMMUNIST who very well may become our next PRESIDENT!!!!!

    • Replies: @bluedog
  50. @SBaker

    Gabbard would be at the top.

    Gabbard is no longer on the list. The Dems voted her off.

    Trump is far better than any of the dem candidates since he sees value in US citizenship and US sovereignty.

    I’m not arguing Trump vs Sanders. I said Sanders is their best candidate but that doesn’t mean I am promoting him. I’m just talking strategy.

  51. What I would like to see is for both parties to find reasonable solutions to immigration and health care. Of course in this political climate that is unlikely.

    Democrats are wrong about the borders and Republicans are wrong about health care.

    I shouldn’t have to choose between self-loathing White guilt Democrats that can’t say no to the third world or “free market is fine” Republicans.

    I’m hoping for a party split from this election. We are close and DNC shenanigans could do it.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Tulip
  52. @JasonT

    “… they are all the same as Trump.”

    So is Sanders–as you shall see.

  53. @Buck Ransom

    At last night’s debate, which I didn’t have the stomach to watch much of, socialist Sanders, who wants pot legalization on DAY ONE, floated a very capitalist idea. He said that young men, once they reach 18, could become pot entrepreneurs, and sell home grown pot to their neighbors. That, per Bernie, would prevent the pot millionaires from cornering the market. Just what this country needs, millions of young men selling untested back alley pot to their neighbors, which might sicken or even kill them. Great idea, Bernie, as long as they declare the income on their taxes.

    • Replies: @D3F1ANT
  54. Is Biden’s brain really still working? At the start of last night’s debate he said that 150 MILLION Americans have been killed by guns since 2007. If any candidate corrected him on that figure I didn’t see it. After that democrat food fight was over, his people walked it back and said that old Joe meant to say 150 thousand.

    As for the very much part-time mayor of South Bend, even if he wasn’t a homo he would still be insufferable. At a CNN Town Hall Pete congratulated a 9 YEAR-OLD boy for having the “courage” to come out as a homosexual (I saw the clip on TruNews). So much for those who say that homo propaganda is not affecting our youth.

    • Replies: @KenH
  55. D3F1ANT says:

    JFK’s party has been gone for a long time, already. And it’s been Sanders’ party for a while now, too. Or AOC’s. Same thing. One’s just a little bit dumber.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  56. D3F1ANT says:
    @follyofwar

    I get your point, and agree that it’s a bad idea. But NO pot, grown in any alley, is going to kill anyone. LOL!

  57. @D3F1ANT

    JFK’s party has been gone for a long time, already. And it’s been Sanders’ party for a while now, too. Or AOC’s. Same thing. One’s just a little bit dumber.

    It isn’t the party of Sanders. The DNC hates him.

    They tried last night to sink him in the South Carolina debate by charging $1750 for a ticket.

    Gee whiz what type of crowd will show up?

    Pretty sneaky stuff and expect more tricks to come.

  58. SBaker says:
    @John Chuckman

    Fine to disagree. Words and Deeds are not synonymous. One Deed is worth 10,000 words.

  59. Tulip says:
    @John Johnson

    What I would like to see is for both parties to find reasonable solutions to immigration and health care.

    Just watch, if Sanders wins, he’ll find some kind of meaningless symbol (call it the “Healthcare Wall”) which signals he really really cares about health care even if he is not doing anything about it, we are sure to get at least 6 miles of Healthcare Wall if it doesn’t blow over in the wind by the end of his term.

    Immigration and health care are quandries for our ruling class, not problems, because cheap labor and monopoly-priced health care are both good for profits.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  60. @melpol

    Black and Latino minorities as well as other disenfranchised groups will vote him in and make him keep his promises.

    Bernie can’t keep his promises because . . . math.

    Military cuts and new taxes on billionaires can’t even cover a small fraction of the Infinite Free Stuff Deal he is proposing. Medicare for the elderly is already a financial train wreck that is driving about half of our current $1 Trillion deficit, and rising rapidly in cost every year. “Medicare for all” would basically set the current train wreck on fire.

    At least half the current Democrat base are high-income urban professionals. They love to virtue signal about “racial justice” and transsexual bathroom rights. But they also like money just like everyone else. So when these two-income households of lawyers and consultants making over $250K per year wake up to the fact that Bernie will need to take at least half their incomes in taxes, the wheels will fall off the Democratic coalition in short order.

    • Replies: @melpol
    , @Tulip
    , @Johann Ricke
  61. @Tulip

    Just watch, if Sanders wins, he’ll find some kind of meaningless symbol (call it the “Healthcare Wall”) which signals he really really cares about health care even if he is not doing anything about it

    Yea and as I said there is no reason to assume he will get anything done.

    How many Democrats in office have we seen claim “well you need to vote more Democrats to the house” as an excuse for not getting something passed? The media of course doesn’t point out the majors flaws in their plans and then everyone forgets about it and goes on vacation. This happens all the time in Dem majority states.

    Immigration and health care are quandries for our ruling class, not problems, because cheap labor and monopoly-priced health care are both good for profits.

    No argument here. I’ve pointed out that the Republicans in Texas have been completely lax on immigration for ag industry and only to be told that Democrats are still somehow to blame.

    The ACA had a huge payoff to the insurance industry and the public option was bunk from the beginning. It was real amusing to watch Fox news call it socialism.

    So yea I’m no fan of the establishment obviously.

    • Replies: @Tulip
  62. Is there a difference between socialism and capitalism if you don’t and actually can’t own property?

  63. melpol says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Medicare costs for the elderly and most of the military budget can be downsized. thousands of planes and tanks are not needed. Twelve aircraft carriers was a stupid investment. Half of cops jobs are there to protect billionaires, let the wealthy hire their own police force. Each citizen should carry a crime in progress alert button. Security should be there in minutes.
    Welfare payments are distributed to Moms with a working boyfriend living in the bedroom. He should be outed.
    Most government jobs should be sold to contractors, they can do the same work at half cost. Contractors can hire government workers who have lost their jobs.
    These savings can send kids to college for free. Healthcare for the employed and their families will be available for pennies.

  64. KenH says:
    @follyofwar

    After that democrat food fight was over, his people walked it back and said that old Joe meant to say 150 thousand.

    That’s still a lot lower than other causes like car wrecks and ER mishaps. I heard the other day that hammers killed more people in 2019 than long guns of all calibers at something like 476 to 403. If the dreaded AR-15 is even responsible for 200 of those 403 deaths that means hammers killed more than twice those of a so called deadly assault weapon.

    So tell any leftist friends you have that a tool of carpentry doesn’t belong in the hands of laymen and the only people who should be allowed to possess hammers are licensed carpenters. We also need background checks, waiting periods and red flag laws for people with hammers and those who think they need a hammer.

    Hammers belong only on a carpenters tool belt and nowhere else and if we followed those guidelines we could drastically lower deaths by assault hammer.

  65. @Paul

    “The truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies’” – W. Churchill

  66. Does this mean we can quit hearing goofy JFK conspiracy theories? Might be worth it.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  67. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Like a lone gun, man?

    • Replies: @Alden
  68. Tulip says:
    @John Johnson

    But here is the thing, most Americans believe in this thing called “Democracy” which is “Rule By the People”. Electing the Tribunal of the People, and watching them fail, or in the alternative, watching them start to succeed but then the Democratic process get shut down will lead to a widespread belief that our “Democracy” is a sham facade for “Rule by the Oligarchs”. I think we are in a historical trajectory toward an increasingly radicalized Middle Class against a Rentier Class and some Oligarchs. That is energizing Trump and Sanders politics. The system is incapable of change or reform, so the Middle Class will just get angrier and more radical, until we get a 1789 moment.

  69. Tulip says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Your analysis assumes that Sanders is actually interested in instantiating his agenda, and that he can actually get it through. I think the smart money is on Sanders being about as serious about his concrete proposals as Obama was about his inchoate “Hope and Change”. But even if he truly believes, the Democratic Party doesn’t, and none of this stuff gets out of legislative chamber, and even if it does, the Senate kills it, and if it did pass, I’m sure some federal judge will find its unconstitutional.

  70. @Hypnotoad666

    At least half the current Democrat base are high-income urban professionals. They love to virtue signal about “racial justice” and transsexual bathroom rights. But they also like money just like everyone else. So when these two-income households of lawyers and consultants making over $250K per year wake up to the fact that Bernie will need to take at least half their incomes in taxes, the wheels will fall off the Democratic coalition in short order.

    That can’t literally be the case, unless the half the Democratic base consists of the 1.5% of US households that make over $250K per year:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluence_in_the_United_States

    The real question is what percentage of low-income and middle-income moderates and Republican voters will rally to Sanders just to stick it to the 1.5 percenters.

  71. Art says:

    Will JFK’s Party Become Sanders’ Party?

    Please — JFK’s Party has been the Jew oligarch party for decades.

    The Jew oligarchy hate Bernie — he would kill their greedy money machine (and everything else). His ideas would hurt corporate business which is the hands of the Wall Street Jews. Like it or not “corporate business” is the American economy – we live and breath because of it.

    Do No Harm and Do No Business – with the inferior immoral Jews.

  72. Art says:

    Will JFK’s Party Become Sanders’ Party?

    There is no JFK or Reagan parties.

    There is a left wing Jew oligarch funded party (Dems). Soros and more.

    And there is a right wing Jew oligarch funded party (Republicans). Adelson and more.

    It is foolish to thing otherwise.

  73. bluedog says:
    @SBaker

    Yes indeed keep posting like this clown for he and his kind are the one’s who give Americans a bad name in the world.!!

  74. bluedog says:
    @SBaker

    Here’s a tip for ya fascist if JFK had gone into Cuba as the JC’S wanted they would have lost a division,do you even have a clue how many men are in a division,I rather doubt it from your rambling/.!!!

  75. @Priss Factor

    But Bloomberg, at least in the recent past, has been unafraid to dissent from the prevailing orthodoxies. Here he is in 2015 talking sense about the Russian annexation of Crimea:
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/11/michael-bloomberg-2015-justifies-russia-crimea/

  76. @Priss Factor

    And here’s Bloomberg in 2013 as mayor of NYC saying that based on the percentage of white people commiting crime, the police were actually disproportionately stopping too many whites:
    https://nationalfile.com/mike-bloomberg-on-stop-and-frisk-we-stop-whites-too-much-and-minorities-too-little/
    To be sure, he’s now saying the stop and frisk program was wrong, but what he’s saying now to get the Dem nomination does not really disguise his actual views on these issues.

  77. Alden says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Balance. I got an image of the 2 of them on a teeter totter with him way up in the air legs flailing . Didn’t know the whale was a lesbian. It should definitely, definitely be encouraged among black women. Instead of a baby Orc welfare subsidy, a generous childless black lesbian subsidy

  78. Alden says:
    @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    He didn’t know the Warburgs, Rockefeller’s Schiffs, and the wealthiest people of America and west Europe would send him to Russia with millions of their ill gotten gains soon after he made that statement.

  79. Alden says:
    @John Chuckman

    I had to think a minute before I remembered who JFK was. 60 years ago and he only won because the corrupt Chicago machine “found” enough extra votes to swing Illinois and it’s electoral votes to him.

  80. Alden says:
    @anonymous

    Who’s a skilled marksman with a straight shot down at Kennedy’s head from his workplace window? And was a proud self proclaimed communist at the height of the Cold War? Who was fanatically pro Castro at the same time JFK was fanatically anti Castro????

    Nah, never.

    It was a coalition of Dallas city police and sheriffs, Texas state police, FBI, CIA , secret service, army, navy, marine, and Air Force DEA , IRS, ATF , Farm bureau, state department, agricultural department, and the widow’s second husband all blasting away from the grassy knoll and railroad bridge.

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
  81. Maybe the 2016 election was a referendum on the corrupt, globalist witch whom voters in post industrialized Great Lakes states knew would sell out their interests. I can see Sanders winning Wisconsin, Michigan this time, maybe Pennsylvania, and now with Felon voting and a hundred thousand Puerto Rican hurricane refugees Florida also may go blue. If this is a referendum on health care Sanders would win. Nobody can afford this crap, my policy costs MORE THAN MY RENT!!! 25 years ago my health insurance was on par with my cable bill, but nobody can afford a second rent payment. Especially with corporate America stealing all our jobs, shipping them off to China, and offering nothing but part time, no benefit service jobs. A local Walmart wannabee store runs the whole giant operation on 300 part time employees. We definitely need laws prohibiting businesses from running their operations wholly on part time workers. $15 minimum wage too, why not, who can survive on $9.25 and hour? At least $12 or $13 minimum wage. All this talk about, being responsible for your own health care is bunk, nobody can afford it, and when you get it from your job you are held hostage at that job. When I was in my 20s I moved way out of state to try something new, no way could I ever do that anymore and either be without health care, or be jobless with both a huge rent and even larger private health insurance bill to handle. Not to mention how unreliable jobs are these days. Nothing like having your treasonous company bought out by a multinational and plant shipped off to China, bye bye health care. Enjoy being 50 trying to find a new full time job with health care, especially when you aren’t real healthy anymore and couldn’t handle packing boxes for 12 hours a day like the 20 year olds. Why shouldn’t certain sectors of the economy be non-profit government run like medicine, education, and roads. I visited corporate America’s favorite town, Dallas-FW metroplex after a friend relocated there in 2018 and see what they have in store for us. Private roads not open to the general public, Looked like a nice tollway, but it had no cash tollbooths anymore for any non local traffic who didn’t buy their 1984 style radio transponders. Also evident in DFW before they started showing up in other parts of the country is this giant wall street investor scam to funnel money into these “kiosk” makers. Stupid computer terminals at McDonalds to type in your order, only to have to walk up the the counter to pay for it anyway. Why? Louisville also “privatized” it’s Ohio River Bridges, no tollbooths either for all the out of town traffic headed down I-65 who are not part of the local “transponder” scene. Will they please pass a federal law making these “cashless” tollways illegal and require tollbooths again? I hear they are mailing scam tickets for $20 to all the out of towners who unsuspectingly come upon this bridge. One that was free back in 2012 last time I went that way . Then there are all legal scams like the worthless for profit 1-800 schools that charge as much as Harvard to unsuspecting dolts who believe the “college cargo cult” myth of success, and multi level marketing pyramid schemes fleecing average citizens who are tricked into thinking they are viable businesses. Yes, corporate America is predatory, I could well see Sanders winning out of the anger this has generated.

    • Agree: dfordoom
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