President Donald Trump, who canceled a missile strike on Iran, after the shoot-down of a U.S. Predator drone, to avoid killing Iranians, may not want a U.S. war with Iran. But the same cannot be said of Bibi Netanyahu.
Saturday, Israel launched a night attack on a village south of Damascus to abort what Israel claims was a plot by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards’ Quds Force to fly “killer drones” into Israel, an act of war.
Sunday, two Israeli drones crashed outside the media offices of Hezbollah in Beirut. Israel then attacked a base camp of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command in north Lebanon.
Monday, Israel admitted to a strike on Iranian-backed militias of the Popular Mobilization Forces in Iraq. And Israel does not deny responsibility for last month’s attacks on munitions dumps and bases of pro-Iran militias in Iraq.
Israel has also confirmed that, during Syria’s civil war, it conducted hundreds of strikes against pro-Iranian militias and ammunition depots to prevent the transfer of missiles to Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Understandably, Israel’s weekend actions have brought threats of retaliation. Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah has warned of vengeance for the death of his people in the Syria strike.
Quds Force General Qassem Soleimani reportedly tweeted from Tehran, “These insane operations will be the last struggles of the Zionist regime.” Lebanese President Michel Aoun called the alleged Israeli drone attack on Beirut a “declaration of war.”
Last Friday, in the 71st week of the “Great March of Return” protests on Gaza’s border, 50 Palestinians were wounded by Israeli live fire. In 16 months, 200 have died from gunshots, with thousands wounded.
America’s reaction to Israel’s weekend attacks? Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called Netanyahu to assure him of U.S. support of Israel’s actions. Some Iraqi leaders are now calling for the expulsion of Americans.
Why is Netanyahu now admitting to Israel’s role in the strikes in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq? Why has he begun threatening Iran itself and even the Houthi rebels in Yemen?
Because this longest-serving prime minister in Israeli history, having surpassed David Ben-Gurion, is in the battle of his life, with elections just three weeks off. And if Netanyahu falls short — or fails to put together a coalition after winning, as he failed earlier this year — his career would be over, and he could be facing prosecution for corruption.
Netanyahu has a compelling motive for widening the war against Israel’s main enemy, its allies and its proxies and taking credit for military strikes.
But America has a stake in what Israel is doing as well.
We are not simply observers. For if Hezbollah retaliates against Israel or Iranian-backed militias in Syria retaliate against Israel — or against us for enabling Israel — a new war could erupt, and there would be a clamor for deeper American intervention.
Yet, Americans have no desire for a new war, which could cost Trump the presidency, as the war in Iraq cost the Republican Party the Congress in 2006 and the White House in 2008.
The United States has taken pains to avoid a military clash with Iran for compelling reasons. With only 5,000 troops left in Iraq, U.S. forces are massively outmanned by an estimated 150,000 fighters of the pro-Iran Popular Mobilization Forces, which played a critical role in preventing ISIS from reaching Baghdad during the days of the caliphate.
And, for good reason, the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, with its crew of 5,600, which Trump sent to deter Iran, has yet to enter the Strait of Hormuz or the Persian Gulf but remains in the Arabian Sea off the coast of Oman, and, at times, some 600 nautical miles away from Iran.
Why is this mighty warship keeping its distance?
We don’t want a confrontation in the Gulf, and, as ex-Admiral James Stavridis, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, says:
“Anytime a carrier moves close to shore, and especially into confined waters, the danger to the ship goes up significantly. … It becomes vulnerable to diesel submarines, shore-launched cruise missiles and swarming attacks by small boats armed with missiles.”
Which is a pretty good description of the coastal defenses and naval forces of Iran.
Netanyahu’s widening of Israel’s war with Iran and its proxies into Lebanon and Iraq — and perhaps beyond — and his acknowledgement of that wider war raise questions for both of us.
Israel today has on and near her borders hostile populations in Gaza, Syria, Lebanon, Iran and Iraq. Tens of millions of Muslims see her as an enemy to be expelled from the region.
While there is a cold peace with Egypt and Jordan, the Saudis and Gulf Arabs are temporary allies as long as the foe is Iran.
Is this pervasive enmity sustainable?
As for America, have we ceded to Netanyahu something no nation should ever cede to another, even an ally: the right to take our country into a war of their choosing but not of ours?
Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”
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I do not believe the American people will support a war with Iran.
I know that if there is a serious threat of a war, I will personally help to organize protests.
Right. Everybody has to die for Netanfuckinyahu’s political career.
There are three Americas. None of them benefit in any way from Netanyahu and his shitty little country.
Perhaps we need a second American revolution to wrest control of the government from Israel and the Zionists.
Let Mike Pompeo and the Christian Zionists go fight for the SLC. Real American patriots will be sitting this one out.
(Hey, Donny, Pompee-O, Bibi and Bolton are going to make sure you’re a one-termer.)
Just a very gentle reminder:
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LEO FRANK
MARY PHEGAN
THINK ABOUT IT
Just like England and France in 1939 gave Poland a blank check.
“As for America, have we ceded to Netanyahu something no nation should ever cede to another, even an ally: the right to take our country into a war of their choosing but not of ours?”
Yes, the US has done exactly that. They’ve also surrendered to this group their rights of speech, assembly, and fair trial. That lobby (the ADL, etc.) has worked diligently to ban critical books off Amazon, ban YouTube channels, and change laws to make persecution of dissidents easier; they can even blackmail your politicians the way Israeli agent Jeffery Epstein did with no consequences. The United States is a full fledged colony of Israel controlled by an aggressive ethnic lobby backed up by an immoral apartheid state. The Boomers wanted that, so they have no right to complain of the consequences. Personally, I have no dog in this fight, so I don’t care what happens anymore. I just want to live long enough to see China rip through this empire full boar. And if God is really generous to me, he’ll also let me live to see the destruction of Israel by the future POC ruling class. The wailing and gnashing of teeth by the deepstate and Ruling Class might just be worth all the misery they’ve put the world through. Hopefully, I’ll be on a beach by then sipping a margarita and reminiscing with the locals about my childhood back when America was a tad less F’d up as this whole thing implodes under the weight of toxic sanctimony and decades of poor management.
Interesting how Buchanan assumes that us helping Israel should they be attacked by Hezbollah would put us into a full fledged war. It would look more like us launching a few tomahawks and doing a few airstrikes.
It wouldn’t be boots on the ground in Lebanon for the US, that’s a foolish assumption. Should Israel be attacked by Hezbollah, we should help Israel out. I’d love to see Hezbollah crushed. Anyone who draws a moral equivalence between Hezbollah and Israel is simply anti-Semitic and wants Jews dead.
The fear mongering from Pat is a bit tiresome, he doesn’t seem to understand that us launching a few tomahawks and airstrikes isn’t all out war.
Except that the U.S., AFAIK, has no treaty with the Zionist State, at least for now.
No war for Israel.
The US has 5,000 troops in Iraq who become targets for irate Iran-backed groups for a military strike they did not carry out. A retaliatory Iranian strike that kills US troops (because of Israeli actions) will have consequences …and that is what Israel hopes for.
Israel has :…(continued to ) bomb Syria, Is now bombing Iraq, Is sending drones into Lebanon, Is bombing Gaza (again) , and now Israel is planning to bomb Yemen ….a favor to MbS no doubt.
The Israelis and Fifth Column Jews are desperate to get the Iran war started. They are setting fires everywhere.
Consider this typical ‘Jew screaming ‘ nonsense—-Iran ‘sanctioned’ the Jew war think tank the FDD and its leader, Mark Dubowitz.
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/149247/Iran-sanctions-Washington-based-FDD-for-role-in-intensifying
In a statement published minutes ago, Iran’s Foreign Ministry refers to the impacts of ‘the US economic terrorism’ on ordinary Iranians including endangering the lives of many innocent people, Iran’s legitimate trade with the world and the impact of the US illegal sanctions on Iran’s environment, adding that the sanctions are aimed at changing the Islamic Republic establishment.
The Iranian FM statement goes on to condemn the deliberate actions of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) and its CEO Mark Dubowitz including spreading lies, lobbyism, propaganda against Iran, saying the FDD’s actions are in line with the goals of the ‘US economic terrorism’.
So the very very Zionist war monger Dubowitz has told everyone that Iran is ‘threatening his life’, lol…and all the Jews are on a twitter storm demanding the US take action against Iran for this…
Tweets by mdubowitz
Mark Dubowitz Retweeted
Conf Of Jewish Organizations Presidents @Conf_of_Pres 7h7 hours ago
”The threat by Iranian officials against a Washington DC think-tank, @FDD, warrants a response from government officials here and abroad, ”
PLEASE PLEASE…..RID US OF THESE PEOPLE
It has always been the desire of the wretch Netanyahu to drag the US into a war with Iran. During the Obama administration, Netanyahu and then time defense minister Ehud Barak failed. President Trump is surrounded by a die-hard pro-Israel fraction, starting with John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, Mike Pence, David Friedman, Jarad Kushner and the rest of the crowd. In such an environment, Netanyahu’s plans might work out. His aggressive behavior could set the whole region on fire, perhaps Israel will not survive. In such a war, it’s crystal clear, who is the primary aggressor and bears the sole responsibility: Netanyahu and the Zionist regime. The burden of President Trump is to call this war-prone lunatic in Jerusalem off.
Shock and awe, eh …
And where did that get US the last time?
We do NOT owe israel one cent and especially not one drop of the blood of any US Military members … period. We have nothing to gain by associating with them … as my grandfather used to say, if you hang around with pigs, pretty soon you get that stink on you. We’ve had the stench of our involvement on US for generations … it’s time to end it once and for all and let the chips fall where they may.
Meanwhile … we need to make sure that at least some of our own weapons are targeted toward israel — they’d likely try to seriously bite the hand that’s been feeding them since ’48 (and well before).
“Whyamihere” I have asked this question many times. Why are you here, indeed. You just want to give Israel a blank check. Israel is a rogue state led by a mad man, Netanyahu. Israel attacks every neighbor at will and the world just looks the other way. Everytime Israel bombs someone, the great empire just wags its tail. What a great country.
Hey “whyamihere,” learn the meaning of “anti-semite.” Neither you, nor Netanyahu, nor 90% of the Israelis are semites.
Certainly not the first time. 1917
The author asks: ‘As for America, have we ceded to Netanyahu something no nation should ever cede to another, even an ally: the right to take our country into a war of their choosing but not of ours? If the answer is yes, the already danger climate in the Middle East becomes even more unstable, if that is Israel’s aim. A hundred years ago Germany found itself committed to fighting in defence of Austria, the minor Germanic power. Israel, like any nation, has legitimate national interests. World war ultimately serves nobody’s interest.
https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/
I think you are very naive. Trump and the Deep State do not care what the American people want. They know that most American people are inane fools and will believe anything. Most Americans would rather watch America’s Got Talent or Dancing With The Stars than be informed about important issues.
No perhaps about it.
“Netanyahu has a compelling motive for widening the war against Israel’s main enemy, its allies and its proxies and taking credit for military strikes”…but even if he didn’t, not much would change. Israel’s unhinged belligerence does not hinge on Netan-yahoo’s venality & personal plight. They would be gunning down unarmed protestors, sabotaging neighboring countries & suborning the hapless U.S., with or without crooked Bibi. There is nobody in the Blue and White or any other political grouping in Israel – except for the Joint Arab List & Meretz – that wouldn’t do the same or has tried to stop him. Nothing will change after the election, no matter who wins, even if Bribing Bibi is rotting in jail, which will never happen either. Even if “Americans have no desire for a new war”, Trump & Congress both are more afraid that crossing cunning Israel is more likely to cost them their own re-election.
“As for America.. [we have] ceded to Netanyahu something no nation should ever cede to” treacherous Israel – being their “ally”. They are very likely again to “take our country into a war of their choosing but not of ours” – and you can bet that John Derbyshill will be cheering them on, as always!
“We are not simply observers. For if Hezbollah retaliates against Israel or Iranian-backed militias in Syria retaliate against Israel — or against us for enabling Israel — a new war could erupt, and there would be a clamor for deeper American intervention.”
Yes, lots of (((clamor))).
In 2006 Hezbollah damaged the Israeli ship Hanit while Houthi forces have been threatening US vessels. Both Iranian proxies use missiles modeled on the Chinese C802. Echoes of the Brits and the French-built Exocet in the South Atlantic.
Egypt was bribed courtesy of American taxpayers.
And what pray tell would be in it for America? Israel is a Country that shouldn’t exist, all they do is cause shit for the World, stealing everyone’s money, telling people how to run their affairs, promoting homosexuality, they are just a war mongering pain in the ass, wright em off.
No one is asking the American people their opinion on the matter.
It’s called representative democracy, where the representatives get to ignore their constituents and do as they damned well please. That’s how the system works.
Israel is here to stay. Get over it. The Iranian, theocratic, old goat regime’s days are numbered. Go Bibi!!!
Soros and his Globalist pals wanted to start a nuclear arms race in the region. They would obtain more migrant “refugees” further destabilising Christian nations. And, they would reap the financial benefits from ownership in military industrial firms.
Stopping the nuclear arms race before it starts, is the cheapest option available to the U.S. Fortunately, that can be accomplished by restricting Iranian cash. No need for a ‘boots on the ground’ solution.
PEACE
Robert, There is already a very serious threat of war. Where are all the protests?
I give up, Working Class. What are the three Americas of which you speak?
Israel is indeed a racist rogue state, and Netanyahu is a filthy scumbag filled with hate and reckless ambition. But is he a madman? I judge that he is hardly so, but is the modern embodiment of Machiavelli’s “The Prince.” He constantly lies and schemes, while goading his US subjects into doing the fighting and dying for his people. The man is a 4-D chess master on the world’s stage, making all other world leaders, beside just a brave handful, cower in his fearful presence. Not bad for a man who rules a country the size of New Jersey.
Now, as for being ruled by a madman, there is the matter of that childish megalomaniac who resides near the shores of the Potomac, and who thinks he is king of the world, while he is, in fact, just a big barking dog being led around on a leash by his Zionist Masters.
I beg to differ.
Us “boomers” were recipients of what the “greatest generation” foisted upon us.
It was those of “the greatest generation” who changed immigration laws in 1965 to favor third-world immigration ahead of white Europeans (Hart-Celler immigration Act).
Not only that, it was President Eisenhower who used federal troops to disenfranchise us whites (at the point of federal bayonets) in our own communities in 1957 Little Rock Arkansas.
The “boomers” had NOTHING to do with our disenfranchisement. It was those of the “greatest generation” who set the wheels in motion and are responsible for our present state of affairs.
Great comments! Some of you have really good writers☺️
So… How do we do it? How do we act to be free of our parasite? Voting seems too silly, armed resistance too drastic, but sipping margaritas en las playas not always in reach or desired. Posting on message boards with robots and occasional humans with humor or sense is helpful conversation, but surely there’s a point to it all.
Besides dark comedy!
You have it backwards, Hezbollah is a defensive organization . It defends Lebanon against Israeli terrorist invasion.
I don’t watch either show, but tell us, How many hours a day should Americans spend “being informed”? Are two hours a day enough? Five? Eight? Twelve? Give us a number that meets your approval.
Yes, the so-called “greatest generation,” full of irrational exhuberance after winning the War, set the nation-destroying wheels in motion. But what did the Euro-American boomers, of which I am one, do to rollback the damage they had done? Answer: NOTHING! We Euro-American boomers (the last generation to be 90% white) only made the situation worse, much worse. So, those hated Euro-American generations following us (who are even now a minority of US births) should damn us all to Hell, which is where most of us belong.
Here’s Ol’ Pat doing his Rip Van Winkle shtik. Oof, grunt fart scratch yawn, Wheah’s my wo powahs? Pat you ain’t had no war powers for thirty years, you ol’ crispie. You gave em away to CIA!
Where were you when DCI Bush stone blew off the Clark Amendment and then turned aggression by Savimbi’s irregulars over to the Jew State? Were you snoozin? What were you wet-dreamin about when CIA ABSCAMMed Congress and made them repeal the Boland Amendment?
You ain’t got no nation, Pat. You woke up on the CIA plantation, and you nuthin but darkie slave cannon fodder! All you got is massa at Langley.
Correction…
The Iranians shot down a Northrop Grumman turbofan-powered MQ4 Triton drone flying at 65,000 feet…this $200 million UAV is the most sophisticated and costly unmanned US aircraft…
The Predator is a piston engine UAV costing 4 million bucks…BIG DIFFERENCE…
You’re both right, I would say.
Nixon took us off the gold standard, betrayed us by supporting Israel during the Yom Kippur war, imposed a draconian 55 mph speed limit as a result, bolstered Affirmative Action by demanding unilateral affirmative action in all government employment, and ‘One of the pressing issues of Nixon’s first administration was school desegregation. By percentage in 1968, nearly 70 percent of black children were segregated from their white peers; by the end of Nixon’s first term it was just 8 percent.’
The “greatest generation” sold us out, to virtue signal their “goodness”, by tossing the white working class man under the racial spoils bus.
It seems that for as long as I’ve been alive, this country has betrayed its own, to bolster the fortunes of the Zionists and the political classes who slavishly service them.
And the boomers are no different.
The only thing I can say about the ‘greatest generation’, is that Ron Paul is nominally from their ranks. Whereas his son Rand, is like the rest of the boomers. A moral coward and a self-serving liar. And even at that, he’s still one of the best boomers around. Says a lot.
“The “boomers” had NOTHING to do with our disenfranchisement. It was those of the “greatest generation” who set the wheels in motion and are responsible for our present state of affairs.”
The Boomers are just as complicit. They could have stopped this but didn’t. Instead, they wasted everyone’s time with inane ideological pursuits – libertarianism, neoconservatism, Christian Zionism, civic nationalism – while simultaneously purging those who wanted to change course, guys like Pat Buchanan. Now, it is too late. Back in the 1990s, Boomer president Bill Clinton gave a college commencement speech in which he bragged to rapturous applause that the US would soon be majority minority. Boomers elected this man. Boomers reelected this man
All Boomers wanted were flax taxes, capital gains tax cuts, estate tax cuts, and income tax cuts for the rich; the Wall Street Journal’s unofficial motto was “thou shalt be open borders.” Boomers gave us outsourcing, and they continued mass immigration back when they had the votes to stop it. Boomers got us into the Iraq war. Boomers supported gatekeeping outfits like the National Review as they purged wrongthinkers. Even now their billionaire compatriots fund gatekeeping groups like Turning Point USA, “we only oppose illegal immigration”. Boomers endlessly harped about “muh socialism” while caring nothing for immigration, the middle-class economy, the culture, or anything else. Back in the 1990s, immigration always ranked low on republican concerns; they only cared about the immediate state of the economy as it affected them. Multiple Boomer presidents gave us outsourcing and free trade, and Boomer voters went along with it like good little libertarians. Boomers are the ones who railed against “muh big gubment” while never doing anything about it. Boomers let the radical left monopolize the media, academia, the entertainment industry, and all government agencies with nary a hint of resistance because “muh private companies”.
They are just as culpable for our current state of affairs if not moreso.
This is 100% wrong. Iranian al’Hezbollah is an offensive force dedicated to attacking Jews and dominating non-Muslim citizens of Lebanon. Their preference is for first strikes against civilian targets in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv (1). Katyusha rocket based first strike systems have limited ability to be used in a defensive manner against Israeli troops and vehicles.
Israel’s response to the offensive forces of Iranian al’Hezbollah is centered on reducing their first strike capabilities.
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(1). https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/hassan-nasrallah-boasts-hezbollahs-offensive-capabilities-emphasizing-ability-hit-strategic-targets-population-center-israel/
Bibi doesn’t do anything without CIA’s permission. CIA gave him the IFF codes so he could buzz around Iraq like a bignosed Khazar gnat. Bibi will own his war again when he loses it. Then CIA will turn on a dime and decapitate the Jew State with prosecutions for the crime against humanity of extermination. Bibi will off himself in Scheveningen like Epstein, “ACK ACK ACK, Help Me! Antisemites got me!!!” Except for reals.
Israel can go to hell. They are no ally. They are trying to start a war knowing that their diaspora kinsmen in America and the kosher cuck and nutty evangelicals who love them will apply so much pressure on Trump that he’ll have no choice but to finish what Izzy started. So say hello to Middle East quagmire 2.0.
On the bright side another war might finally topple the kleptocratic, Jewish occupied U.S government since we can ill afford another 1-2 trillion dollars and tens of thousands of casualties. The U.S. military is starting to run out of white guys who are the only group capable of fighting and winning wars. Our LGBTQ divisions will get cut to pieces by Hezbollah.
Trying to occupy Iran would be a nightmare scenario not to mention a little chaos theory that has Russia and China getting involved and things escalating to a nuclear exchange.
I am just stating how it is…that makes this country so fucked up.
Who is us??? Intelligent people know this country is on a shit slide to hell. Being naive is one of the problems. It doesn’t matter to me, I am older and doing fine, if you’re happy living with the naivete, fine.
I am sure you watch programs that are just as inane.
North America. Central America. South America,
The United States Of America is located in North America along with Canada and Mexico.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=map+of+the+americas&t=ffsb&atb=v181-6&ia=images&iax=images
Agree.
Nation too weak to protect her border
Is pleased to defend everyone else’s.
Meanwhile China scorns her soy and fodder,
And markets crash, for she lost her senses.
With red tripwires everywhere and calls for blood in the air,
Curtain is set to go up on the darkest play ever.
Good intentions is our name.
Losing wars is our game.
Our bluff and posture are lame.
Our Cockatoo’s insane.
I suppose we can quibble with words but a person who is constantly at war with his neighbors has to be a mad man. A sane person would like to have peaceful relations. How do you like this request by Netanyahu, “Netanyahu Urges International Community to Act to Protect Israel?” He bombs several countries without any provocations and then runs home screaming for help. What chutzpah!
You are right. This is 100% wrong. You don’t even know the history of Hezbollah. Hezbollah is purely a defensive organization.
A123, you have been drinking Israeli Koolaid or have been trained by Netanyahu school of misinformation.
Thanks A123,for information I already found in the Washington Post.
In the meantime the second occupation of Lebanon failed /2006/ and Israel Army was defeated comprehensively.
Are the Israel governments try to be different from from the Nazis. And how?
“….wants us dead.” I do believe I could find a way to go on were such a frightful thing to occur.
You might think you are for peace but you are of no value to anyone if you can’t even recognize naked aggression. Hizbollah fighters were dying in Syria to stop ISIS, while Israel has been supporting the headchoppers. Hizbollah has not fired a shot at Israel since 2006. Iran has not bombed anyone. Israel drops bombs on other countries every week, along with shooting Palestinians IN Gaza. “Limiting their 1st strike capabilities” Yeah right, any excuse to support such violence. How about Hizbollah and Iran reducing Israel and the US first strike capability? Would you support that?
Your moral compass is pretty distorted.
Clearly Bibi has decided that Iran and its allies will turn the other cheek no matter how great the aggression. I don’t think he’s trying to start a war. He’s just trying to get re-elected and stay out of prison. After all, his long term position has been to fight Iran to the last American. Obviously he believes he can act tough without any response from the other side. He also mistake Iranian restraint with fear. Maybe he simply concludes that because he – and the US – has nuclear weapons that they will never dare to fight back. And clearly he believes that even if it comes to war that Israel and the US will win easily. Never mind that both militaries have done nothing in recent years except murder unarmed civilians and have next to zero tolerance for taking casualties.
Makes me wonder how delusional all western leaders are.
Israel is behaving like #$%$. They used terrorism to create the state of Israel by bombings and shootings…then when they got that they started to steal the lands, homes and the lives of the Palestinians. Not content with that they attack their neighbours and thumb their nose up at UN resolutions. Any other state doing the same we would have attacked them by now and done a regime change…Not Israel though. And they have got it their way so good that you can criticize God but you can’t criticize Israel.
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the idiot force is one of the biggest terrorist organizations on this world
the propagandists laugh at all of us
Zion is the only terrorist organization that demands love for its victims
Two part answer:
-1- How are Islam and the Nazi government the same? In ~600AD Islam butchered tens of millions of Christians. In the 1940’s Nazi’s butchered ten of millions of mostly Russian Christians. So, Islam and Nazis are the same because they have jihadist genocide of Infidels (a.k.a. Christians & Jews) as a core value.
-2- How is Israel different from the Muslim/Nazism? Israel has not intentionally slaughtered tens of millions of Christians.
Only the mentally disturbed with very warped values miss the near total convergence of the genocidal Nazi and genocidal Muslim core values.
PEACE. 😇
Of course not. Naked aggression by Iranian al’Quds and Iranian al’Hezbollah troops are what the U.S. and Israel are defending against. Why don’t Iranian troops return to Iran? Then they would stop dying.
You can easily tell the difference between the two sides:
— Violent Muslim aggression against Infidels
— Self-defense by Infidels who do not want to be killed by violent Islam.
I get it. You are upset that inferior Infidels do not want to die at superior Muslim hands. I hate to break it to you, but Muslims who follow the Blood Prophet of Jihad are not superior to anyone.
PEACE
LOL, Hezbolah crushed Israel’s little mama’s boys the last time they met.
And what’s wrong with being an “anti-semite”
said:
“he doesn’t seem to understand that us launching a few tomahawks and airstrikes isn’t all out war.”
An act of war is exactly what it would be if the equivalent were launched against the US or “that shitty little country”.
you think that others are fools, please stop so many gross lies to fool naive
takfiri-wahabi are your allies
Zionist terror and arab/Wahabi terror … they are two sides of the same coin
Zionist terror after killing more than a thousand Lebanese … the Wahabi terror in the same Dahiya district killed more than two hundred Lebanese
the most insufferable thing about you is that you lie, and again and again you seek to deceive
You provide an excellent example of the Muslim devotion of Taqiyya (1), Lying to Infidels. When caught with no facts, the Taqiyya deceiver gives worship to Muhammad by falsely accusing the Infidel.
Sorry. You can bluster all you want but no one is going to buy into your painfully obvious attempts at misdirection. As you have been soundly and conclusively defeated here, you should find some other venue to spread your lies.
PEACE
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(1) http://www.freedompost.org/islam/deception/common-taqiyya-or-islamic-lies-and-deceptions-by-muslims.html
But But But !!! Israel did not cause the Iran US war ! See the lack of enthusiasm from Jewish
This will be there argument once the war is about to start or is over.
NUKE ISRAEL. Put ALL the AIPAC Jews and sayanims in Israel – and NUKE ISRAEL.
Israel is a land infested by ruthless, blood thirsty monsters. No amount of innocent blood slakes their thirst.
I am/was a yehudi
save your ridiculous lies for another
Your mixture of ignorance, lies and fantasy is insufferable
The difference is that Britain and France saw Germany as an economic threat. No one sees Iraq, Iran, Syria, or Lebanon as an economic threat.
Eretz Israel – from the Nile to the Euphrates.
Thanks for that.
For years, I have been telling the whiners that they have their colloective heads up their ass. I’m 70, and wasn’t old enough to vote when the immigration “reform” was voted in. The same for the multicultural bullshit being foisted on us.
Apparently, I was “privileged” to have worked for almost 50 years to collect a modest “ponzi scheme” pension, while paying mortgage interest rates in the high teens, that made some of us lose everything we had. We were right there, marching and voting for the s.o.b.s who were sending our jobs off shore, because it was all a union’s fault that the international bankers convinced Nixon he had to get off the gold standard.
If I tell people that in high school we used to joke about the 6 million because we knew it was bullshit, and didn’t care if it were true, I am the devil incarnate – a xenophobic, Auntie Shemi-tic, racist, Neo-Nazi. To be honest, I seem to have more in common with despicable pieces of shit like Tlaib and Omar, who are at least brave enough to challange the Zio-babble, than I do the whiners.
Kinda like your Kol Nidre:
“All vows [], obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called ‘ḳonam,’ ‘ḳonas,’ or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next (whose happy coming we await), we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths.”
Israhell national anthem: Onward Christian Soldier
Well at least you do not deny that you are a Muslim Taqiyya liar. I guess that is a step forward. Trying to justify your lies by saying that others are liars is pretty weak. But even tiny progress is a gain when dealing with followers of the Blood Prophet of Jihad.
By the way, I am a Christian who follows the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Where is “my Kol Nidre” in the Bible. I don’t member that from Sunday School.
PEACE 😇
A123’s sole tactic is to accuse anyone he doesn’t like of being a lying Muslim. He’s repeated it countless times here.
In the face of all of he evidence presented, its pathetic and weak.
Moreover, Islam is based wholly on Judaism. If a Muslim is commanded to deceive, that edict will also be found in Judaism. It follows that Islam’s and Judaism’s destructive apocalyptic goals are largely the same.
WOW!!! A pathetic and weak “anon” poster shows up to help my cause. Thanks! All of the evidence presented is on my side, which is why I state facts. No accusations required. Just the TRUTH. Alas, I must post frequently because there are so many Taqiyya Muslim Liars here.
An absurd Taqiyya lie. Islam and Judeo-Christian values are diametrically opposed.
— Jews and Christians believe in the Sixth Commandment, “Thou Shall Not Kill”
— Muslims believe in the Covenant of Jihad, “Thou Shall Kill the Infidel and Steal His Land”
As long as violent followers of Islam occupy Jewish and Christian lands, peace is impossible. When Muslims choose to end their occupation, peace will be achievable.
PEACE
‘ A retaliatory Iranian strike that kills US troops (because of Israeli actions) will have consequences …and that is what Israel hopes for…’
It just has to look like an Iranian attack. The American media will play ball.
I thought this was a political discussion board. Please keep your religious bigotry to yourself. You’ll never win any arguments with it. You merely show people what you’re really about…and it’s not PEACE.
If Iran/Hizbollah do the same things Israel/US do then it’s aggression. I do admire your double standard. A nice luxury as your side can do anything – including a nuclear attack – and you’ll continue to support them. The lunatics in Tel Aviv and Washington are counting on people like you.
How about the US military return to its own territory? How about Israel return to the ’67 borders? Or how about allowing the people of Gaza freedom of movement, instead of keeping them trapped in a small territory(concentration camp) for 15 years? I don’t wish to put words in your mouth but I suspect you consider those unarmed protesters an act of aggression.
I’m glad the NFL season is about to kick off as you can go back to blindly cheering for your favourite team without any people having to die for your cause.
I haven’t heard this speech. Which college and which year was it? If he did say this, then the Boomers can take much of the blame for the current immigration mess. No doubt that Clinton represented them.
As for the rest of it, I can’t think of any generation in US history that has been a worse Guardian of their own people, traditions and society than this crowd.
Paw, Curmudgeon, and Davidson20 all mentioned religion earlier? Why didn’t you post this comment about them?
I have won every argument so far. I don’t see that changing
There is no such thing as a ’67 border. Please use the correct terminology. You are referring to the ’67 armistice line. This was never intended as a border and there is no practical way to make it work as one. Trying to use this unworkable, non-border to divide the sides is one of the reasons why violence is common.
The 20’s “Binding International Law” border gave 3/4+ of Palestine to Muslim Palestine and 1/4 of Palestine to Jewish Palestine. Why are you so opposed to a real border that could work?
I do want peace. I have offered up multiple possible options. Here is a good example of one that could work. All you have to do is let go of hate and embrace the opportunity for peace. Are you capable of that?
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Voluntary relocation schemes have a chance. Arabs want to leave Jewish Palestine: (1)
If you do not like this poll from 2015, search for others. Results like these have been consistent for years.
If only 25% of Gaza residents are willing to volunteer for compensated relocation, that is still a 500,000+ population base to launch New Muslim Palestine. Arab civilians deserve the ability to ‘vote with their feet’ by leaving over the objections of violent ‘leaders’. Fatah and Hamas are more interested in hate & power than helping their people.
PEACE
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(1) https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=765875
Additional detail on what I believe is the same 2015 poll:
— http://www.thetower.org/1739-poll-gaza-residents-blame-hamas-for-palestinian-division/
With all due respect, Robert, street protests were not the decisive factor in ending Vietnam.
Often times, street protests are just a means by which law enforcement agencies may keep track of potentially real threats to public safety. Dossiers are easier to keep once people have been brought out into the street.
Nowadays, of course, they’re unneeded. The web is the street.
I encourage the organization of floor parties, but just know that once you begin this, you’re going to attract the enemy from jumpstreet. If the organization can’t handle this reality and keep its cool like Michael Corleone, it’s better not to head in this direction.
/You merely show people what you’re really about…and it’s not PEACE./
They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. ‘Peace, peace,’ they say, when there is no peace. — Jeremiah 6: 14
That’s “A” for ya.
Pffffshshwahahahahaha!!! That’s hilarious – no historian worth his salt would claim this.
But let’s see what Jewish historians say that Jews said about the early Muslim conquests:
“..but despite the inauspicious beginning, the conquest of Jerusalem by Caliph Omar in 637 was welcomed by some Jews as a release from Christian oppression. In the following Jewish apocalyptic tract composed soon afterward, Esau stands for Rome/Byzantium/Christendom and Ishmael for the Muslims:
…The angel Metatron at once answered him. ‘Fear not, O son of man! The Holy One, blessed be He, brings the kingdom of Ishmael only to save you from this wicked one (Rome) He will send a prophet to them and conquer the Land [of Israel]…And the second king who arises from Ishmael will love [the people of] Israel and conquer all the kingdoms.’”
Historical Dictionary of Judaism
Whaaaaat?! They were cheering from the sidelines?! Why, they don’t teach this in class! LOL! And now Zionists come with their “They killed bazillions of you Christians!!! So let’s you and him fight!”
Joke.
Peace.
/I have won every argument so far/
Seek help.
https://www.goodencenter.org/delusions-of-grandeur/
I’m actually really glad the guy is posting here. Everyone gets to see hyper-Zionism in its full glory – magnificent!
Wa salaam.
When you are shadowboxing, you win every time.
We need this guy around, don’t try to send him away please.
Wa salaam.
I never claimed any of these things things:
So what you are doing is ‘strawmanning’ (1):
Everyone appreciates your willingness to self identify as a Troll. My unbroken string of fact-based victories has left you in a mouth frothing but impotent rage. Please, continue to provide comic relief for the readers here. I am quite amused by your antics.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Strawmanning
Ahh…. Taqiyya Talha the Troll returns. I thought that you had stopped peddling your lies.
And now the facts from serious historians (1):
We all understand that you have to lie for your Blood Prophet of Death. So thank you for being so obvious about it.
PEACE 😇
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(1). https://www.israelislamandendtimes.com/muslims-massacred-669-million-non-muslims-since-622ad/
/We need this guy around, don’t try to send him away please./
Send him away?
I’d be more successful trying to send away the smell of manure from an Iowa corn field.
No offense to manure, of course. It does have its benefits.
Yeah. It’s not bad to have such a representative here.
There but for the grace of God go I, eh?
was-salaam.
You falsely claimed that you’ve “won every argument thus far.”
Close enough.
Oooga booga!
LOL! Man, I said serious historians, not some chop-shop Zionist site. Come on, you guys can do better than that. I mean it tries to cite Raphael Moore’s “History of Asia Minor” to claim 50 million Christians were killed in jihad, which is nonsense. Here is his work right here:
http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm
He only attributes 3.5 million deaths to the Turks (and is quite meticulous about it) and the rest to the Communist persecution in Ukraine and Russia – it’s all there in his own words.
Furthermore, the site takes one estimate (9 million – which is probably reasonable given 14+ centuries and the extent of territory) and a separate false one (50 million) and then doubles them up for 59 million!!! And then throws another 80 million on top of that out of nowhere! It’s magic! LOL!
Please keep on posting your stuff and citing Zionist websites as sources for “serious history”! I’m sure you’re winning lots of people to your side of the argument.
Peace.
Wait, didn’t you say earlier:
“Trying to justify your lies by saying that others are liars is pretty weak.”
That’s right, you did. But please, keep up calling anyone and everyone that disagrees with you “Taqiyya Muslim Liars” and claiming victory in each exchange – I love it!
Peace.
My favorite lie is when A and Lot profess to be Christians.
Doesn’t get any more entertaining.
Pretty interesting.
Although, I have to admit, I have seen some Christians actually out-Zion Zionists.
At the end of the day – it’s really our fault. Our disunity is the big issue; they are simply using it to their advantage. And we will keep getting humiliated until we finally figure this lesson out and turn that ship around. Until then, I figure the beatings and humiliations at the hands of Zionists will continue and – not only will we be powerless about it – we will actually have factions of Muslims helping them to do it in order for some paltry gain in this world. Sad affair.
Wa salaam.
“Stay aloof from the parties of contention.”
… and …
“Be one with your beds.”
… both sound familiar. End times’ counsel, if I recall.
As I told Robert earlier, street protests are just a convenient means by which law enforcement compiles dossiers, and they’re certainly here — in today’s “street” — already.
“Doing something about it” is an attractive prospect, but its attendant demands are actually less attractive than most people would like them to be, particularly when the first of them requires one to acknowledge that the biggest obstacle to doing anything stares back at him from the mirror.
was-salaam
Pat Buchanan is a perfect example of the cucked Western male, of the Roman Catholic type. His devout Catholicism means that he will OSCULUM INFAME black/Asian priests-popes.
When he ran for the presidency in 1992, he chose a black woman as his running mate.
He has the money to help Western nationalist movements but all he does is scribble columns that are questions and never offer answers. He has done nothing to help save the West.
The Middle East can be solved. Muslims must be made to understand that Israel is there to stay. Western Jews will have to be stripped of their citizenship so they will have to move to Israel. Buchanan would always scribble about Israel but has never done anything to solve the problem.
He has accomplished nothing in his long life.
Is this a joke, sir? It already has; long ago.
In contrast to attilathehen who puts its Israel donkey-fellating anti-Arab anti-POC bigotry on display but only behind a silly mask.
a coward’s coward
The ultimate cuck – always named “anon.”
Defending POCs? Hmmmmm…..something funky is going on in your life.
Name one Pat Buchanan political accomplishment.
I offer solutions. What are your solutions?
You will someday be held accountable for your genocidal antiGentilism.
You and your Terrorist Theocracy of Eretz Ysrael, home of the foulest war criminals the world has ever known, BAR NONE.
Have a nice day, shyster, and please don’t take offense at anything I’ve said.
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Philosophy of Charlie Wilson, the CEO of GE, is still alive and well! During Eisenhower reign Charlie professed a simple and clear direction for the formation of the MIC. It was the idea of “PERMANENT WAR ECONOMY” in support of economic growth and high employment in the US. Since then the US has been involved in many wars or has created many wars for others with a few wars still ongoing. In the meantime the Pentagon budget has quadrupled which almost half of the annual budget is funneled into the MIC and its subservients’ pockets.
So the Israelis behavior is another excuse amongst many other excuses for the US to pull the trigger for another war. In other words, protecting the existence of Israel or Nothin-Ya-Who is not an objective for the US but Israel is a tool for creating business opportunities for the US in the ME region.
Celebrate!!
Kill the fatted hen!
LOL!!! Once again a cucked Western male cannot handle the truth or deal with reality.
Israel’s response to the offensive forces of Iranian al’Hezbollah is centered on reducing their first strike capabilities.”
Yes ! I want to dismember somebody so that he can’t entertain any evil thought against me or muster the courage of thinking of using the first strike capability he has in possession against me . Sounds like a Talmude looks like a Talmud walks on the water like a Talmud.
Anyway How does Talmud walk into your brain all the time with open pages .
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday renewed his pledge to annex all Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank as he reached out to right-wing voters ahead of a 17 September election and amid allegations of corruption.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/netanyahu-renews-pledge-annex-all-west-bank-settlements
Bibi can articulate the Zio dream openly brazenly and in your face attitude to Americans and Russian ( ex Soviet ) who birthed that illegal entity after being conceived by a bribed English administration of Balfour Lloyd Churchill . Back then those bribed and filthy leaders told Zionist militia leaders , Rothchilds ,Weizmann and Weiss ,May Clifford Sliver , to hide the real intention . Begin Shamir Rabin Peres Barak and Olmert – all maintained the facade and the deception .
The Talmudic Taqya is asking the world again to bring peace by restricting Iran. When the time is ripe, Talmudic Taqyia will get US drop nuclear bombs on the country .
Talmudic Taqiya has educated the world – ” we the Jewish people have found no partner in piece ”