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In April, President Joe Biden told the nation he would have all U.S. troops out of Afghanistan by Sept. 11, the 20th anniversary of the worst terrorist attack ever on the continental United States.

Given the turn of events of the past week, that 20th anniversary may be celebrated by a triumphant Taliban, now on the cusp of victory over the Americans and their Afghan allies, with gruesome public executions of their surrendered and captured enemies.

Sept. 11, 2021, could see U.S. Marines and diplomats fleeing Kabul to escape the retribution of the Taliban whom we ousted in 2001.

Consider. From Friday, a week ago, to today, the Taliban have overrun 10 of Afghanistan’s 34 provincial capitals.

Mazar-e-Sharif in the north is now surrounded. Kandahar and Herat, second and third largest cities, are under siege. The Kandahar-Kabul road has been cut. The defense minister escaped assassination in the capital. The government’s media director did not. The Taliban now control half of the 400 regions of Afghanistan and two-thirds of its territory.

Some Afghan soldiers have fought bravely. Others have retreated into their bases, surrendered, or fled into neighboring countries such as Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Pakistan. An entire Afghan army corps with its U.S. weapons, equipment and vehicles was surrendered in Kunduz city.

U.S. military say the fall of Kabul could come within 90 days, with some saying privately the regime could fall to the Taliban within a month.

Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut has summarized the situation:

“The complete, utter failure of the Afghan national army, absent our hand-holding, to defend their country is a blistering indictment of a failed 20-year strategy predicated on the belief that billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars could create an effective democratic central government in a nation that has never had one.”

The reality of that grim assessment raises many questions.

Who is responsible for the colossal U.S. failure in Afghanistan? Who is responsible for America’s impending defeat in her longest war?

Over the last 20 years, the U.S. lost 2,500 troops with 20,000 wounded and invested \$1 trillion to create an Afghan army, only to see that army crumble and disintegrate as soon as we departed.

Wednesday, Biden conceded that truth:

“Look, we spent over \$1 trillion over 20 years; we trained and equipped … over 300,000 Afghan forces. Afghan leaders have to come together. They’ve got to fight for themselves.”

We are facing in Afghanistan a wipeout of the investment of a generation to convert Afghanistan into a democracy with the ability to hold the allegiance of its people and to defend itself.

Why did we fail?

Did the U.S. generals, statesmen, politicians and journalists who went to Afghanistan during these last two decades, and came back to testify to our steady progress, delude themselves? Or did they deceive us?

ORDER IT NOW

How many U.S. generals knew what was going on but declined to risk their careers by telling Congress or the country that the Afghan army and regime we had stood up would likely collapse like a house of cards once the Americans departed and they had to face the Taliban alone?

Today, the U.S. special envoy for Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, is in Qatar threatening the Taliban that if they overrun the country and impose a victor’s peace, they risk being denied diplomatic recognition by the U.S. and its Western allies and a forfeiture of future foreign aid.

But to brand the Taliban terrorists and pariahs is not new to them. What they seek is something for which they have proven they are willing to die.

What is critical for them is to restore the Taliban to their previous dominance; to create an Islamic Emirate; to make themselves the moral, social and political arbiters of a more purely Islamic Afghanistan.

And to be rid of the outsiders and their alien values.

They want to be able to stand up and say to the Muslim world: “We have shown you how to do it. We fought America, the world superpower, for 20 years until we forced the Americans, tails between their legs, to get out of our land, and then put their puppets up against a wall.”

While our strategic defeat will leave Americans reluctant to attempt any such future imperial interventions, there needs to be an accounting.

The questions that need answering:

Was not the attempt to transplant Madisonian democracy into the soil of the Middle and Near East a fool’s errand from the beginning?

How many other U.S. allies field paper armies, which will collapse, if they do not have the Americans there to do the heavy lifting?

Is what we have on offer — one man-one vote democracy — truly appealing in a part of the world where democracy seems to have trouble, from the Maghreb to the Middle East to Central Asia, putting down any deep roots?

The Taliban’s God is Allah. The golden calf we had on offer was democracy. In the Hindu Kush, their god has proven stronger.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

 
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  1. USA1943 says:

    If we go to War, We should ALWAYS go in with Unconditional Surrender of the Enemy the ONLY Outcome As Truman demanded with Japan, And if we lose we should fight to the last Man, Including reinstating the Draft and have it be for EVERYBODY above 16 years old, so the people making decisions who are 40, 50, 50, 70 Etc. years old should have to fight if physically able, Yes we should go Nuclear if we have to to get the unconditional surrender as Truman did, Leaving and having the enemy in control a few weeks or months later, makes us look weak, and you can’t demand respect by being weak.

    • LOL: rgl
  2. What about the poppy fields ??

    • LOL: V. Hickel
  3. Franz says:

    And to be rid of the outsiders and their alien values.

    And if they can do it, so can we.

  4. This was yet another unnecessary war that Empire America deserved to lose. Let the tribes and people who live in Afghanistan determine their own future. Transforming their traditional way of life is not America’s business. Instead, the US should be protecting American borders from invasion, not attempting to impose vulgar and alien American-style ‘democracy’ on some distant land. Such folly. Such arrogance. Such waste. Trillions of dollars for what?

    Indeed, US forces had little or no right to enter Afghanistan in the first place (Oct. 2001) and certainly no right to remain there after Osama Bin Laden was killed by US forces (in Pakistan) in 2011. After all, not only was Osama Bin Laden not a statesman or even citizen of Afghanistan, he apparently lived as a fugitive elsewhere for years before his death at the hands of US mercenaries ten years after the mysterious events of 911. Because of Zio-Washington’s ‘hit’ on Bin Laden, his exact role in 911 may never even be known.

    It should also be noted that part of the unannounced reason that Zio-America seized on the opportunity to invade and then occupy Afghanistan after 911 was the fact that, with US forces and bases already positioned in Iraq, additional US military installations in Afghanistan could be used to further intimidate and terrorize Iran, which lies right between those two beleagured states. Fortunately, Iran has been able to withstand and resist decades of organized US-Israeli terror and economic warfare.

  5. Anon[295] • Disclaimer says:

    Apart from the blatant lies told by the military high command and the CIA, I think that the major reason for this defeat was that America went in to Afghanistan imagining that they could turn it into a Middle Eastern version of Kansas, complete with apple pie, refrigerators in the kitchen, Dorothy and Toto and all the other things so worshiped by middle America. An the method that they would use to reach this utopia? Why, just bomb them in to loving democracy. Your soldiers, diplomats and civilians in Afghanistan were hated invaders, you did not speak their language (or most of you didn’t), you did not respect their beliefs or culture and you thought that they would sell there birthright for a can of Coke and a packet of Salems. Americans do not, and never have, learned from history. The British were beaten by the Afghans, the Russians were beaten by the Afghans and along comes Uncle Sam and thinks he could do it better. When will America learn that you cannot bomb people into loving you?

  6. JimDandy says:

    The only thing about any of this that bothers me is my new theory that The Deep State stopped Trump from pulling out so Biden would get the credit.

    • Agree: V. Hickel
  7. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:

    George W. Bush lost it and is responsible.
    Barack Obama also lost it and is responsible.
    Donald Trump also lost it and is responsible.
    Joe Biden also lost it and is responsible.

  8. Who Lost America’s Longest War?

    The project was ill-conceived. Responsibility for it’s failure lies with it’s originators. Think Dick Cheney.

    • Replies: @rgl
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
  9. an effective democratic central government in a nation that has never had one.

    You can blame the US for that. Yanqui should butt out of Asia.
    https://williamblum.org/chapters/killing-hope/afghanistan

  10. El Dato says:

    How many U.S. generals knew what was going on but declined to risk their careers by telling Congress or the country that the Afghan army and regime we had stood up would likely collapse like a house of cards once the Americans departed and they had to face the Taliban alone?

    “Don’t ask, don’t tell”

    • Replies: @Taras77
    , @Jeff Davis
  11. dearieme says:

    Was not the attempt to transplant Madisonian democracy into the soil of the Middle and Near East a fool’s errand from the beginning? Of course it was; obviously so. Fools, indeed, were Bush the Younger and the sycophants who worked for him. Though, to be fair, some of the sycophants at least managed to enrich themselves so maybe it’s better to say that they were crooks rather than fools.

    How many other U.S. allies field paper armies Germany, for a start.

    Is what we have on offer … truly appealing in … the Maghreb to the Middle East to Central Asia? Nope. Even if you were to offer something less corrupt than the American way of voting, it seems unlikely to appeal. Only dolts and ignoramuses could persuade themselves that, for example, Iraq could be converted into a Middle Eastern Belgium.

  12. mijj says:

    as usual, the stupid people whine and wonder about the stupid reasons US lost Afghanistan (or wherever the US is currently losing). But the real question should be .. What were the stupid reasons for the US going to Afghanistan (or wherever the US is creating misery and destruction).

    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  13. Prior to collapsing the Soviet Union, it was sent into Afghanistan to lose. Was this to soften up and demoralise the state prior to the collapse?

    Flash forward to 2001, America goes into Afghanistan. 2021 it retreats after trillions were spent. Was it done for the same reasons?

    Remember (((who))) benefitted from the Soviet collapse. I would not be surprised to see history repeat itself. 🙂

    • Agree: Irish Savant
  14. “Madisonian democracy “?

    Was it “democracy ” when the CIA agent Hamid Karzai was literally imposed in the middle of the night on Afghanistan at the head of a hypercorrupt puppet child sex slaver Quisling warlord regime?

    Was it “democracy ” when people were forced by the regime’s warlords to vote at gunpoint, and specifically for such and such a candidate?

    Was it “democracy ” when the Amerikastani citizen Ashraf Ghani then stood for election as “president”?

    Was it “democracy” when said Ashraf Ghani so blatantly rigged the election that even his Amerikastani overlords had to admit it was rigged?

    Was it “democracy” when those same Amerikastanis, in violation of the constitution that they had imposed on Afghanistan, created the post of “chief executive officer” to appease Abdullah Abdullah, who otherwise threatened to rebel with his warlord army in reply to said rigging?

    Was it “democracy” when the rapist and mass murdering war criminal Abdul Rashid Dostum was foisted on Afghanistan as “vice president”, with the rank of Marshal to boot?

    If that is democracy, no wonder the Afghans prefer the Taliban.

    • Replies: @tyrone
  15. Gruben says:

    Was there ever made an honest attempt by the US to transplant a meaningful democracy to Afghanistan? The two presidents Afghanistan had under US-rule were chosen in Washington, certainly not by the people in Afghanistan. The administrative personnel working for these two Afghan presidents were also chosen or vetted by US authorities as is the case in most of the states having accepted an US-dependency. Such functionaries, chosen by US services because they knew about their shortcomings or corrupt dealings, are in many cases obliged to do what the US wants from them because they know that the US services could blackmail them if they do not follow their orders. The US is not at all exporting a “Medisonian democracy” but a system of imperial exercise of power in foreign countries, based on blackmail, which tends to bring corrupt and morally defective people to power.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  16. From Vietnam onward, with mayhaps the exception of Gulf War Uno, every American war has been a Forever War™.

    Forever Wars are “won” first by starting and then by continuing, no other metrics are needed. Money burned and lives lost don’t matter.

    By FW standards, both crapganistan and iraq were resounding victories.

  17. Typical — that is, Exceptional! — (i) whitewashing of Uncle Sam’s agenda, (ii) tarring any who resist, and (iii) pronoun propagandizing Americans to keep “us” rooting for “our democracy.”

    Mr. Buchanan knows that the answer to his play dumb questions

    Who is responsible for the colossal U.S. failure in Afghanistan? Who is responsible for America’s impending defeat in her longest war?

    is the Establishment that he serves: the people for whom only peace is “failure” or “defeat” and who came out way ahead

    [o]ver the last 20 years, [while] the U.S. lost 2,500 troops with 20,000 wounded and invested \$1 trillion[.]

  18. @USA1943

    Why wait?

    Recruit a Lincoln Brigade for Madisonian Democracy in Afghanistan.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  19. U.S. military say the fall of Kabul could come within 90 days,

    Shouldn’t that be “the liberation of Kabul?”

  20. Hitmarck says:

    Was 9/11 the worst terror attack?
    Or was it when u guys infected urself with (((them)))?

    • Agree: rgl
  21. @Si1ver1ock

    9 days looks more likely right now than 90.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  22. Good luck in Iran faggots!

  23. bob sykes says:

    America’s longest war is Somalia, begun in the winter of 92/93, and still ongoing. That’s almost 29 years. SOCOM is nowadays fighting the grandchildren of Aidid, and can’t be them either.

    Of course the war in Somalia began with a UN mandate, so it has a veneer of legitimacy. Kosovo/Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, Libya, Yemen, Mali, Niger, Chad… et al. are mere imperialist exuberance, and war crimes.

  24. @USA1943

    The unprecedented idea of compelling an entire nation to surrender its sovereignty unconditionally came from the fevered brain of FDR after he had read a biography of Ulysses Grant. That general famously demanded the unconditional surrender of a single rebel fort which his forces had encircled. His opponent termed the demand “ungallant [and] ungentlemanly” but was compelled by circumstances to comply.

    Churchill, as war-mad as he was, was appalled by FDR’s bizarre proposition, which historians generally agree prolonged the war, dooming Europe to at least another eighteen months to two years of needless destruction and slaughter. But FDR was determined to make a larger mark on history than previous White House occupants Grant and particularly his hated archrival cousin Theodore, and so he did. Unfortunately it was written in blood spilled for no purpose but to stroke his massive ego.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  25. Phipps says:

    We were attacked by Osaa Bin Laden due to Jewish dominance in our foreign policy/pro-Israel stances. Like all Arabs and Muslims around the world, the suffering of the Palestinians was a huge issue for Bin Laden and the attackers. But for Buchanan to mention America’s Jewish problem is too honest. As for “spreading democracy,” well, we don’t even have that in America. It’s the same thing with America’s crusade to combat terrorism. How can a terrorist state (the United States) fight terrorism? The best way for America to not get into stupid wars for Israel — or because of israel — is to first deport the Jews.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  26. rgl says:
    @USA1943

    You are delusional. Have you enlisted yet?

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  27. KenH says:

    And to be rid of the outsiders and their alien values.

    By JOG standards that is Afghan supremacy. When non-whites wish to be rid of white outsiders the Jew led left weeps tears of joy but if whites in Western nations wish to be free of Jewish control and the third world interlopers who they’ve imported they are castigated as the most god awful human beings on earth.

    The only people on earth deserving of an etho-state are the Jews followed by non-whites. White nations belong to everyone. Disagree and your life will suffer. The ADL will see to it.

    All the Taliban had was AK-47’s, RPG, and roadside bombs along with an unshakeable faith in their God and they stand victorious. The rocky and mountainous terrain helped a great deal in preventing U.S. land offensives and enabled hit and run attacks by the Taliban. The Afghan landscape favors the guerilla fighter.

    It seems only Muslims and Muslim nations have the testicular fortitude to stand up to Zionist aggression whether coming their large American colony or from the Israel epicenter.

  28. rgl says:

    Personally, I do not think blame can be laid at the feet of any one person. American Exceptionalism, it’s practitioners, and cheerleaders lost the war. That and the profit motive for the MIC.

    A belief that America can be all, and do all is a flawed tenet.

  29. gottlieb says:

    The Taliban chose their ‘god’ over the Golden Calf of Democracy? Good one. Well it was an easy choice wasn’t it? The Taliban is Moses. Good one. Such hifalutin rhetoric of ideals for 20 years of senseless slaughter based upon the lies of 911.

    The war was over before it began as there was no ‘just cause’ and the American foreign policy of exceptionalism and hubris has Greek Tragedy written all over it.

    The USSA is a failed nation which will make the collapse of the USSR look like a Paris spring.

  30. Generals don’t win wars, they steal resources for the corporations. The preppy Generals aren’t inspirational, and the grunts have no reason to really risk their lives. Most joined for a way out to escape their dead end existence, only to get sent to wars that are more of a dead end existence. Military moral just isn’t there. Grinding away at the US military is how you beat them. The Taliban and whoever is financially backing them did just that.

  31. rgl says:
    @WorkingClass

    Cheney, evil though he is, was only the gun. The president pulls the trigger. But then who controls the president?

    MIC, CIA, NSA … in short, the shadow government, a.k.a. Deep State. One thing I assuredly agree with is that the entire op was ill-conceived. It was entirely based on lies. The day the towers came down, Boeing, Lockheed-Martin and the rest of the ‘defence’ industry got ginormous boners.

  32. nsa says:

    Coming to a town near you….hundreds of thousands of Afghan quislings, drug runners, kiddie rapers, pederasts, thieves, murderers, torturers, quisling’s women with ten inbred offspring each requiring endless welfare, roadside bandits soon to be car jackers, ad nauseum. The hilarious aspect is all these newly imported creeps will fit right in….no one will even notice except for all the goats running around the section 8 apartments.

  33. As the United States discovered in 1945, winning a war cripples the economy by eliminating jobs and removing the need to borrow money to fight it. They won’t be making that mistake again.

  34. Afghan leaders have to come together. They´ve got to fight for themselves.

    Sorry to have to break the news, ladies … they do 😛

  35. @GomezAdddams

    Although the CIA surely would have made the attempt, the poppy fields cannot be relocated.

  36. @WorkingClass

    Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld are to blame for the disaster that was tbe US’s misadventure in Afghanistan. But let’s also not forget Frum, Wolfowitz, Libbey, Kristol, Goldberg, Krauthammer, the Kagans and the rest of the neocon gang. War criminals all.

    Never forgive. Never forget.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @Merillion
  37. @Anon

    Why, just bomb them in to loving democracy. Your soldiers, diplomats and civilians in Afghanistan were hated invaders, you did not speak their language (or most of you didn’t), you did not respect their beliefs or culture and you thought that they would sell there birthright for a can of Coke and a packet of Salems. 

    It worked for Germany and Japan – and the South. They all love Uncle Sugar.

  38. Aviva says:
    @Anon

    ‘the Russians were beaten by the Afghans ‘ this is said a lot but were the Russians beaten by the Afghans, alone? Without American money, arms, logistics could the Afghans beat the Russians? Perhaps but I have never seen this view debated. Anyone have a view?

    The idea of putting in Western democracy into Afghanistan being something they don’t want is belied by the masses of Afghan refugees living in the West who love it. Look how those in Afghanistan the past years without the taliban have enjoyed more of their life as never before. Those there who don’t want the Western way of life are perhaps a small minority with all the guns.

    I’ve heard that the Taliban got all there armaments shipped in from Doha etc., landed in Pakistan and trucked into Afghanistan by road – the US with drones and other weapons couldn’t stop this? Anyone know why? I don’t see Pakistan defying the US on this or what?

    • Replies: @MEexpert
  39. Taras77 says:
    @El Dato

    This phrase, “turning the corner”, should follow all of the military and political incompetents but assuredly it will not:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/turning-the-corner-in-afghanistan.html

    There is no accountability and this disaster will occur over and over and over again!

  40. @mark green

    Trillions of dollars for what?

    For trillions of dollars. Who do you think that money went to? Admittedly a proportion of it was funneled back to the whores in Congress who kept authorising the funding.

  41. @mijj

    Perpetual war is an end in and of itself.

    • Agree: Greta Handel, animalogic
  42. Let’s see- the U.S.. has 158 military bases around the world and not one soldier on the southern border? EVERY President since 1960, except for Donald Trump, has allowed this and has been a traitor . Bad enough to allow 30 million illegal aliens to break into this country, something obviouly blessed by the incredibly corrupt ruling elite. But to then lose tens of thousand of soldiers and spend TRILLIONS of dollars in Iraq, Vietnam and now Afghanistan AFTER the French and Russian debacles preceding ours is both a national humiliation and a monument to stupidity and corruption

    Buchanan is much too kind. If there was any accountability, heads would roll. Either the generals were grossly incometent or corrupt. Will ANYONE be fired? You lose wars and waste gigantic sums of money and everybosy stays in place collecting their saleries and then pensions and consuting fees? Where is any outerage about this natiional disgrace? Apparently the only issue the military can get passionate about is ” White supremacy”. Oh, sorry- “white supremacy”- only Black is allowed to be capitalized today- I will be consigned to PC purgatory!!!

    So lose wars spend trillions- no problem. But we absolutely MUST have a woke military or else. Or else what? Why bother having such a pathetic miltary at all if they cannot protect our border?

  43. Tim M says:

    Wasn’t Afghan all about opium?

  44. MarkinLA says:
    @Observator

    dooming Europe to at least another eighteen months to two years of needless destruction and slaughter.

    I don’t know about that. Hitler was still alive and the Wehrmacht fought right to the end. Even Japan’s proposals to end the war were ridiculous, along the lines of let’s stop here and keep what we got.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  45. MarkinLA says:
    @Gruben

    The US had a heavy influence on the leadership of South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan and slowly loosened up to the point of not being an issue any more. The difference is the people involved.

  46. Taliban for Afghanistan.

    Globan for the West.

  47. US ‘lost’ cuz it didn’t send these boys.

  48. @MarkinLA

    I don’t know about that. Hitler was still alive and the Wehrmacht fought right to the end. Even Japan’s proposals to end the war were ridiculous, along the lines of let’s stop here and keep what we got.

    Basically, they wanted a truce to catch their breath. What we got from the truce at the end of WWI was WWII. Thanks, but no thanks, especially given that a post-WWII truce would likely have seen all sides armed with nukes.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  49. @El Dato

    “Don’t ask, don’t tell”

    Don’t blow your life’s work building a successful career in the US officer corps.

    Get in, get your star, get out, retire and get a board seat with a defense contractor.

  50. The young White Core Americans who fought overseas for the American Empire in Iraq and Afghanistan must be getting pissed about the anti-White nonsense in the United States.

    The White Core American soldiers of the Iraq War and the Afghanistan War must be hopping mad when they see the violent thugs in Antifa stifling the free speech of patriotic Americans who love their ancestors and want to show their ancestors proper respect.

    The White Core American soldiers who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan will ask the question: What Were We Fighting For?

    • Replies: @Goddard
    , @MEexpert
    , @Wokechoke
  51. Who are we as a nation and what are we fighting for? I wonder how many officers and enlisted soldiers under the age of 50 are thinking like Samuel Huntington.

    How many US soldiers garrisoning the globe for the American Empire are wondering just what it is they are defending? I would imagine after the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan there are many disillusioned members and former members of the United States military.

    The Founding Fathers understood that a large standing army would require concentrated political power so as to collect the funds necessary to support the army. Just about 800 years ago some Norman nobles demanded that their king would cease and desist in his efforts to concentrate more political power by maintaining a large standing army at the nobles expense.

    The rancid Republicans babble on about so-called “limited government” while they support not only a large standing army, but also the garrisoning of American Empire outposts all over the globe. Something has gone wrong in our understanding of basic politics and our understanding of political power.

    The White American Core soldiers in the American Empire are not fighting for their own best interests nor the best interest of the United States. White Core American soldiers are fighting to defend globalization and multiculturalism. White Core Americans are fighting to maintain a political system that is transparently anti-White.

    Is the US military just a giant jobs program? Yes it is. But it is also something more evil and insidious. The US military, as it is presently run, is a large bureaucratic sinkhole that dissipates the martial energies of White Core Americans while actively working against the best interests of White Core Americans.

    The American Empire and the US military have become a clear and present threat to the national security interests of the United States. The US military now actively supports nation-wrecking mass immigration and multiculturalism.

    It is long past time to honor our English ancestors by reconsidering the benefits of a large standing army. The Founding Fathers did it; so did the Norman nobles in 1215; it is time we did the same.

  52. The American people have had it with endless war in the Middle East and Central Asia fought for no discernible reason. The American Empire must have contingency plans for cutting off all contact with Israel. It may be time to implement that plan so as to prevent Israel from dragging the American Empire into another disastrous war in the Middle East and its environs. If the Israeli military has the contingency plan known as the Samson Option, then the US military should similarly make plans in case it is necessary to sever all ties with Israel.

    Many Americans have noticed that Jews such as those in the Neo-Conservative faction support nation-wrecking mass immigration for the United States and all other nations that have European Christian ancestral cores. These same Jews demand that Israel be considered a “Jewish” state while saying that all European Christian nations are merely ideological or proposition nations.

    How many US military veterans of the Wars For Israel in Iraq and Afghanistan still feel that those wars fought to further Israeli regional interests were worth it? We can’t ask about 7 thousand of them because they were killed in those Middle Eastern and Central Asian rat holes called Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The weakness in the Israeli government’s plan to keep the American Empire endlessly embroiled in the Middle East and Central Asia is the fact that global Jewry is blatantly pushing nation-wrecking mass immigration on all White Christian nations. The Neo-Conservatives are especially vulnerable on the mass immigration issue and the national question. Americans want less involvement with foreigners overseas and in the United States.

    The best way for White Core Americans to bring forth a more narrowly defined foreign policy that strictly and clearly puts the United States interests first is to press home the point that the American Jews who put Israel’s interests ahead of the United States are the same Jews who push open borders mass immigration for the USA.

  53. Ragno says:

    Well, I certainly know who lost America’s shortest war.

    It was so short, it was over before anybody realized it was on. It began, and ended on December 12, 2016.

    Thank God for America’s legacy journalists. How would we ever know a blessed thing about the world we live in without them?

  54. Goddard says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    The White Core American soldiers who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan will ask the question: What Were We Fighting For?

    … and they will either grow righteously indignant or wilt into passive-aggressiveness and depression. At this point I think the latter more likely.

  55. Cowboy says:

    Who Lost America’s Longest War?

    Fifty four and counting to date and no correct answer?

    Pat gave it away…

    Is what we have on offer — one man-one vote democracy

    Bueller Bueller Bueller?

  56. tyrone says:

    We all knew this day would come,right…….a few more billion dollars and a few more dead and maimed boys and we could be in the same place we are now in a couple of years…….Myself ,I favor the gibbet …..leave W’s stinking carcass in it for twenty years (not a joke).

  57. tyrone says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    How can a fake democracy create a real democracy in anther country……..if you said it was all about the poppy I wouldn’t argue.

  58. I’d have to go with the POTUS and the Congress that started the war at CIA’s behest.

    Winning was never an option.

  59. @rgl

    “If” he said.

    And he’s absolutely right. But that means we should only go to war when our greatest self interest or survival is at stake. Then, it’s all or nothing. We shouldn’t engage in these “limited wars”. (Wasn’t the term and notion something dreamed up during the Kennedy presidency? Or was it Johnson?)

  60. Many people ”lost” the war in Afghanistan; we should have just left after ousting the Taliban; Biden is just doing what Bush, Obama and Trump should have done; our Afghan allies are much like the South Vietnamese in that despite the backing of the worlds most powerful nation and having huge advantages in aid and a numerical advantage they are being defeated by an enemy that is outgunned and outnumbered but us more motivated as the NVA and VC were against the South Vietnamese; we should just evacuate our people and the Afghans who helped and will be targeted and just leave; most Americans dont give a damn about Afghanistan they have other things to worry about; I see nothing wrong with the Taliban ruling Afghanistan.

  61. MEexpert says:
    @Aviva

    I’ve heard that the Taliban got all there armaments shipped in from Doha etc., landed in Pakistan and trucked into Afghanistan by road – the US with drones and other weapons couldn’t stop this? Anyone know why?

    Yes. The US was too busy droning and bombing women, children, schools, hospitals, and wedding parties.

  62. MEexpert says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    The White Core American soldiers who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan will ask the question: What Were We Fighting For?

    They should have asked this question when they were fighting the war, not after.

  63. V. Hickel says:

    it was lost the second the first US soldier touched down. who is responsible? W. and his jay puppet masters. name the j Pat. what do you have left to lose?

  64. @Charles Pewitt

    “If the Israeli military has the contingency plan known as the Samson Option…”

    It does not. It beggars belief that the zios have any plan that involves their suicide. They’ll do anything to survive, if necessary pretend to be Arabs if it comes to that, but they will not blow themselves up.

  65. anon[408] • Disclaimer says:

    Have you been watching BBC ? It seems it is shitting all over and letting the shit hit the fan . It airs old videos of Taliban . Shows decades old footage of Al Quiada . Given the peaceful surrender of most of the areas and the capitals and the absence of violence in the civilian areas , it is quite clear Taliban for now at least being welcomed.The constant reference to possible civil war, killing,stoning,revenge attacks by Taliban seem intended to expose the sincere desire of BBC to carry nothing but the dirty water for the western war monger .

    Petrasesus is saying Taliban rule is not preferable to civil war on BBC .

  66. Mike Tre says:

    Who lost it? The moron who started it.

  67. bjondo [AKA "5 dancing shlomos"] says:

    Dear Taliban,

    After you whack a few necks in Kabul,
    bring your swords to DC.

    So many soft necks not requiring much effort.
    Be sure not to skip Austen and Milley. Two
    fools who are expired but refuse to leave.

    Been a long time since DC has seen men,
    heard non-weasel words, smelled fresh air
    not neolibcon shit.

    Welcome,

    5 dancing shlomos

  68. @Phipps

    Deport the Jews? Where? To Palestine? Genocide an American value?

    It’s a couple of centuries too late in this world with beyond-huge population and rapid transport for any country to deport its Jews.

    That is not the Final Solution. Come up with a better idea.

    • Replies: @Anon
  69. Merillion says: • Website
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Is Pat trying to find the culprits?

    Here is a hint from Thomas Friedman:

    “I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.”

    It’s been “Declassified” since 2003.

    Read the details here: : https://www.haaretz.com/1.4764706

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  70. This is history repeating itself. Whenever foreigners get involved in an internal national conflict and/or setup a puppet government, the locals take the foreigners and their local supporters down at some point. Second time in 30 years for the Taliban taking down foreigners, i.e., USSR-Russia first and now, the US. The Russian puppet government lasted two years and the US puppet government…two weeks after being left on their own. Ditto in Vietnam for France and the US. Same will or really has already happened in Iraq…the US was told to get out last year by the puppet government the US installed, so it’s only a matter of time. Why does the US keep repeating the same mistake? For the past 30 years, it’s been about money and protecting Israel…NOT democracy in the Middle East. Israel is the tail that wags the dog/US! Big money is only made when war materials are expended and replaced, over and over again! And, lives of politicians or their family members are never listed on casualty reports…it’s the lower and middle classes that fight and get maimed or die.

  71. Was not the attempt to transplant Madisonian democracy into the soil of the Middle and Near East a fool’s errand from the beginning?

    Come on. No such thing was attempted.

    Consider WWII. Japan and Germany were not merely invaded but totally smashed. They didn’t just get beaten but got raped in the butt. Also, the defeat was for all Germans and all Japanese.

    In contrast, US explained the Afghan War in terms of ‘Afghanis are wonderful people, and we are going there to remove the bad guys and help out the good guys’. So, it wasn’t about America totally defeating Afghanistan but recruiting one bunch of Afghans to fight another bunch. The ‘Northern Alliance’ for instance. And because the US closely worked with those Afghans, they were shoed into positions of power. They were not treated like the defeated who had no choice but to listen and obey. No, they were treated as allies and friends. So, the US was content to prop up its puppet regime, and there was NO effort to turn Afghanistan into any kind of modern nation-state.

    Besides, who wants any nation to follow the US today? After WWII, the US was a pretty good model for the world. It was nationalist and reasonably race-ist. It had Christian values. People still believed in family and tradition and community. But the US changed so much since then. Indeed, compare US from 2001 to 2021. Even in the Clinton 90s, it seemed like ‘gay marriage’ would never happen. But look where the US is today. ‘Twerking’ is its national expression. Women got tattoos, piercings, and green hair. Churches fly homo flags. Catholics are a bunch of morons with their satanic pope. Even kid culture has been pornified via Disney and other industries. TV ads push homo degeneracy, tranny nuttey, and jungle fever. Jews expect white men to fight Wars for Israel but revile ‘whiteness’ as the source of all evils. When Bush invaded Afghanistan in 2001, there was still talk of a ‘Christo-Fascist’ America but today it’s a Jewish globo-homo gangster-state that flies homo flags in every institution, in embassies all around the world.

    America failed to change Afghanistan but Jews sure changed America. It seems Afghanis, for all their stupidity, have more resilience and pride than the white race which is a pathetic cuck bunch of morons to Jewish power.

    Btw, US didn’t lose any war. US simply decided to end an occupation. The war ended fast in 2002. Since then, US mostly just occupied the nation with minimum fighting. Finally, it decided to call it quits(as Trump was using the antiwar theme), and that means fall of the puppet government.
    Same would have happened if US left in 2002.

    There was no way US could ‘win’ this war if victory means survival of US-backed puppet government.

    • Replies: @Jokem
  72. Well, thank Todd America ‘lost’.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    , @p-dawg
  73. @mark green

    “America seized on the opportunity to invade and then occupy Afghanistan after 911 was the fact that, with US forces and bases already positioned in Iraq,
    I think there’s a problem with your timeline…..?

    • Replies: @mark green
  74. @Johann Ricke

    “What we got from the truce at the end of WWI was WWII”
    “Truce” gave way to “peace treaty” in 1920.
    In so far as the “peace” contributed to
    W. W II it was the terms of the treaty which were causal. Indeed, some of that causation can be sheeted back to the US. That is, the US wouldn’t forgive all its inter-allied loans which then put extra pressure on the French etc to apply harsher reparations on Germany.
    The other prime cause of the success of the Nazis, & thus W. W II was the Great Depression which started… in the US….

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  75. Jokem says:
    @mark green

    They sent an airliner into one of our buildings. I don’t think the proper response for that is to wring our hands and dither.

    • Replies: @Exile
  76. Jokem says:
    @Anon

    I don’t agree, I think we went in there will no plan at all, or a plan that did not jibe with reality.

  77. sonny six says:

    good old usa is sodom and gomorroh on steroids, remember what happened there, power to the common people of afghanistan

  78. Who lost America’s longest war, Pat ?

    The USA lost it, the zionist golem whose only policy is destruction and looting.
    Ordinary Americans lost it in real terms, elites not so much.

    Probably Iraq will be next for your exit.
    What about all those bases ? How long can you keep paying for them ?

    Things might have been different.
    But the Parasite that rules you is calling the shots that are destroying you.
    Look at the composition of Alzheimer Joe’s Cabinet.

    How can Americans not see the glaringly obvious ?

    • Agree: V. Hickel
  79. @Priss Factor

    Even if those pictures were doctored in order to troll, that the claim that Dr. Levine is now dressing like Baby Jane Hudson isn’t entirely implausible demonstrates how degenerate American society has become.

    (Incidentally, images of Dr. Levine would be a very effective tool in the Talibans’ next recruitment campaign.)

  80. Is what we have on offer — one man-one vote democracy — truly appealing in a part of the world where democracy seems to have trouble…?

    We don’t have it in the USA … what makes anyone think we can deliver it elsewhere?

  81. p-dawg says:
    @Priss Factor

    We’re approaching Peak Clown World. Honk, honk.
    Never send to know for whom the nose honks; it honks for thee.

    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
  82. Exile says:
    @Jokem

    Even the Bush Admin narrative didn’t accuse the Taliban of masterminding 9/11 but rather of merely harboring Bin Ladin.

    As for who “sent an airliner,” google “dancing Shlomos.”

    • Replies: @JoeBloggs
    , @Jokem
  83. Anon[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Here’s a better idea:

    A virus encoded with Ashkenazi DNA that causes photosynthesis of keratinocytes to produce a bluish tint.

    No more hiding behind the matrilineal, or changing the surname.

    Blue skin, for all to see.

    • Replies: @V. Hickel
  84. anon[158] • Disclaimer says:

    The (((globalist elites))) lost Afghanistan.

    Afghans don’t want what they’re selling, i.e. materialism and cultural degeneracy in the name of freedom. They prefer to keep their sovereignty and their soul. Good for the Afghans.

  85. @GomezAdddams

    Mr. Buchannan is very myopic on the topic of Afghanistan. We did not go there to establish democracy. We installed our own puppet government and did not care what the people wanted. We were there for the opium and to build a pipeline through the country. When negotiations with the Taliban on the pipeline failed we caused 9/11 and then invaded Afghanistan. Pat seems to be short on facts and the real history of the US Empires interventions in other nations. We may never know the whole truth but pretending it was about spreading democracy is less than truthful.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  86. JoeBloggs says:
    @Exile

    And the proof of that is? Or do you not require proof and Osama was guilty until proven innocent/until shot? You drank too much KoolAid man

  87. The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire is directly responsible for the Afghanistan War Debacle and The Iraq War Debacle.

    The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire must be politically decapitated and then they must be financially liquidated and then they must be legally and forcibly exiled to walled and fenced concentration compounds in a hot and humid and fetid part of sub-Saharan Africa.

    Who Controls Foreign Policy?

    Who Controls Immigration Policy?

    Who Controls Trade Policy?

    Who Controls Monetary Policy?

    Who Controls The Mass Media?

    The evil and treasonous JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire controls it all and they are making a mess of it.

    [MORE]

    Trump was elected primarily on his pledge to put Americans and America First in all matters. Voters were pleased to hear candidate Trump speak of implementing an immigration policy that puts the interests of American citizens ahead of the interests of random foreigners who wish to colonize the United States. The Bush and Clinton and Obama Organized Crime Syndicates had made it clear that the interests of foreigners must be put before the interests of citizens of the United States.

    The Ruling Class of the American Empire sends out politician whores such as Lindsey Graham to say that America must fight over there to make sure we don’t have to fight them here. Lindsey Graham and the Ruling Class never have to explain their nonsense statements because the corporate media is there to protect them. If we don’t bring them here, we won’t have to fight them here. But Graham wants to have both endless war all over the globe and he wants to continue the mass immigration policies that have greatly harmed the United States.

    IMMIGRATION is the issue that will destroy the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire. Trump is the first blast of the trumpet against the Ruling Class plan to use immigration as a demographic weapon to destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Sam Huntington Questions:

    Who are we as a nation?

    What are we fighting for as a nation?

    National Identity and Foreign Policy.

  88. The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire dragged the US military into the Afghanistan War Debacle and the Iraq War Debacle. The JEW/WASP Ruling Class uses the US military as muscle to fight endless war on behalf of the millstone client state of Israel.

    Israel is not an ally of the USA.

    Israel is a strategic liability.

    There is no doubt JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) plotted to racially transform the United States — and many other European Christian nations — by using mass immigration as a demographic weapon. It is a historical fact that can’t be disputed. I must add, however, that the WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire was a willing accomplice to the demographic execution of America.

    The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire has colluded together to concentrate wealth and power and to actively attack the cultural cohesion of the United States. The JEW/WASP Ruling Class was best exemplified by the treasonous globalizer filth in the two Bush presidential administrations.

    Bushy Boy #1 used the 1990 Immigration Act to massively increase legal immigration and to encourage more illegal immigration. Bushy Boy #2 dragged the US military into the Iraq War debacle and the Afghanistan mess. The Neo-Conservative Jews in the Bushy Boy #2 administration wanted to use the US military as muscle to further the national security interests of Israel. I believe both Bush’s to be WASP treasonites who push nation-wrecking mass immigration and unnecessary war in the Middle East.

    Don’t forget or minimize the evil influence of treasonous WASP scum in the immigration invasion and foreign policy blunders of the American Empire. It is the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire that is evil and must be politically decapitated and removed from power.

    • Agree: Pat Kittle
  89. @animalogic

    “Truce” gave way to “peace treaty” in 1920.
    In so far as the “peace” contributed to
    W. W II it was the terms of the treaty which were causal. Indeed, some of that causation can be sheeted back to the US. That is, the US wouldn’t forgive all its inter-allied loans which then put extra pressure on the French etc to apply harsher reparations on Germany.

    A treaty without the will to enforce its terms is a glorified truce. The reparations were minimal compared to the reparations that the French had to come up with after their defeat in 1870. Ultimately, the Germans needed to be stomped flat in order to curb their ambitions. That’s what unconditional surrender at the end of WWII accomplished – the elimination of over 10% of the German population. Without the cleansing of the German population’s most aggressive elements, as well as the imposition of a war weariness similar to the aftermath of the Thirty Years War, we’d likely have seen WWIII with nukes a couple of decades later.

    Germany got off easy. It killed probably 30m Europeans while losing 8m of its own. If the victors had applied the logic of the German High Command to Germans re prophylactic measures, the German population would have been eliminated in its entirety.

  90. Rahan says:

    “The complete, utter failure of the Afghan national army, absent our hand-holding, to defend their country is a blistering indictment of a failed 20-year strategy predicated on the belief that billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars could create an effective democratic central government in a nation that has never had one.”

    The reality of that grim assessment raises many questions.

    Firstly, half of Europe “never had one” yet today some of the most robust democracies with real pluralism and free speech can be found among the “never had” ones. Likewise Korea, Japan, and Taiwan also “never had one” until they did. So in itself this means nothing.

    Secondly, this implied connection between “democracy” and loyal, competent, and courageous troops is rather forced. Communist, Nazi, Fascist, and Monarchist troops have been known from time to time to be a standard of courage and determination.

    So that’s two boomer burger assumptions baked into one small paragraph. In the past such assumptions may have been “mostly harmless”, but in today’s situation of chaotic transition to corporate anarcho-tyranny with cyber-gulag and pharma-fascist neofeudalism, keeping the ole blinds on may not be conductive to objective situation reading and thus survival.

  91. macilrae says:

    When the US first invaded Afghanistan the pretext was to get Osama bin Laden and eradicate Al Qaeda. Uzbeks and Tajiks were employed to do the most dangerous ground fighting i.e. “knocking on doors” while the armor-clad US troops stood well back. After that it was “to ensure that Afghanistan is no longer a refuge for terrorism” and of course “to bring democracy”. It’s hard to love a Taliban but they became the enemy to be defeated at all costs – it was hard to figure out why them and not other equally unsavory characters around the world.
    As a non-citizen it seems to me that the USA has been wholly taken over by lobbyists – in virtually all three branches of its government – their myriad special interests competing in a totally chaotic and haphazard fashion and where leadership, planning and logic have been abandoned – creating a brainless train-wreck of a country: a terrible danger to the people of the world.
    The only way forward would be to all start all over again – but good luck to all of us with that faint hope.

  92. @Merillion

    The first rule of neocon club is to take over everything, and whatever you can’t take over break.

  93. Jokem says:
    @Priss Factor

    ‘Consider WWII. Japan and Germany were not merely invaded but totally smashed. They didn’t just get beaten but got raped in the butt. Also, the defeat was for all Germans and all Japanese.’

    Germany and Japan were orderly societies from the beginning. Both fully expected to be made into slaves in a rump state. That is not what happened. There was an occupation over several years and a conversion to nation with consent of the governed. Being an orderly society from the outset laid the groundwork for that. The Middle East is not like that, it is in many ways, tribal, with an overlay of theocracy.

  94. Jokem says:
    @Exile

    OK, I googled it, got a page of links about a Jewish Dance, and a Jewish songwriter.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  95. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Just how much help was the South Vietnamese army to? Do we never learn. We care about democracy; to the rest of the world, it is just another form of government.

  96. @Jokem

    OK, I googled it, got a page of links about a Jewish Dance, and a Jewish songwriter.

    (((Google’s shysters))) long ago stopped delivering honest search results.

    Try the search engine “DuckDuckGo”:
    — ( https://duckduckgo.com )

    “dancing israelis”:
    — ( https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22dancing+israelis%22&atb=v214-1&ia=web )

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    , @Exile
  97. Incitatus says:

    “Who Lost America’s Longest War?.. Who is responsible for the colossal U.S. failure in Afghanistan? Who is responsible for America’s impending defeat in her longest war?”

    Who indeed? Start with the early years.

    • STAGE ONE AFGHANISTAN [1979-92]; The Anti-Soviet Proxy War. It begins with CIA Operation Cyclone (1979-89): cynical arming, financing and encouraging 8C Islamic radicals against the USSR (with the assistance and endorsement of ‘allies’ Pakistan and Saudi Arabia). Carter gave \$675,000 in 1979. Things really got-going under Raegan (‘The Raegan Doctrine’) with \$20-30 million in 1980 rising to \$630 million in 1987 (let alone Stinger missiles). CIA funding officially ceased on Soviet withdrawl 1989, but as late as 1991 under GHW Bush the House Intelligence Committee provided \$200 million for the Mujahideen for fiscal year 1992, matched by equal funds from champion of democracy Saudi Arabia. The US also helpfully forwarded weapons captured from Iraq in the first Gulf War (what, in 1992, were they fighting?). The US walked away after 13 years as Afghanistan slid into civil war. Was that a defeat Pat?

    • STAGE TWO AFGHANISTAN [20 Aug 1998]: Clinton’s ‘Operation Infinite Outreach’, cruise missile strikes on Al-Qaeda targets in Khost Province (as well as the Sudan) in retaliation for the Kenya and Tanzania embassy bombings (which killed 224). Unsuccessful. Clinton was ridiculed for a ‘wag the dog’ event intended to distract from GOP impeachment for sexual misbehavior. High-minded moral Republicans – like Pat – have since shown undiminished support for a man who bragged about ‘grabbing pussy’ and ‘if you’re a star, they let you do it’ while asking for a Tic-Tac breath mints. A man who payed porn stars for silence (listing it a deductible business expense?), who none-the-less remains a favorite of cult-evangelicals praying for Apocalypse and amoral DC scumb-bags like Pat. Hypocrisy is nowhere better exhibited in human history.

    • STAGE THREE AFGHANISTAN: GW Bush 20 Jan 2001: Warned by outgoing Clinton officials of Al-Qaeda and terrorism after the USS Cole bombing 12 Oct 2000, Bush did nothing. He (with celebrity -pianist Condi Rice) downgraded Terrorism (Ricard A. Clarke) from cabinet access. May 2001 GWB gave \$43 million to the Taliban for retarding opium production.

    • STAGE FOUR AFGHANISTAN: 9/11/01 was a big surprise for GW Bush, Cheney, Condi and Pat, despite multiple prior urgent US intelligence alarms. Who would have thought (despite multiple warnings)? Caught pants down reading about pet goats to Florida Kindergarteners – the GOP legacy, and proud of it.

    • STAGE FIVE AFGHANISTAN: CIA agents are sent in theatre late autumn 2001 with suitcases stuffed with hundred-dollar-bills to bribe 15C war-lords who would kill anybody/do anything for a buck. Real champions of democracy (as long as US Air power helps destroy their opponents). The pride of Pat’s ‘Madisonian Democracy’.

    • STAGE SIX AFGHANISTAN: Bush allows the Taliban and Al-Qaeda to escape in the Battle of Tora Bora 6-17 Dec 2001; Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar, and Ayman al Zawahiri and Al Qaeda vanish (the former to ‘ally’ Pakistan). US emphasis shifts to Iraq.

    • STAGE SEVEN AFGHANISTAN: Late 2002/early 2003. GW Bush (advised by Bernard Lewis, Richard Pearl, etc.) sets Iraq as a ‘shock-and-awe’ target that will demonstrate US power and deter Islamic terrorism. Allegations of Saddam’s WMDs are ultimately unproven, making the US guilty of two Nüremberg counts – Crimes Against Peace (conspiracy) and Waging Aggressive War.

    • STAGE EIGHT AFGHANISTAN: Policy on auto-pilot, the far-reach of such intended to avoid controversy and save American presidents from embarrassment (especially Donald J. Trump, who campaigned on withdrawl, but never quite got there in four years.

    • STAGE NINE AFGHANISTAN: Biden withdraws US troops: what Trump (and Pat?) promised 2016? Same as Nixon Vietnam 1974. Now, according to Pat, a grievous defeat.

    Poor, poor Pat. Black-and-blue from slapping opponents and continuously changing sides.

    • Troll: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  98. @Incitatus

    “Who Lost America’s Longest War?.. Who is responsible for the colossal U.S. failure in Afghanistan? Who is responsible for America’s impending defeat in her longest war?”

    Who indeed? Start with the early years.

    Golly, (((you))) go to great lengths to blame the servile Shabbos goys who faithfully followed orders from their (((Israel lobby masters))):

    “9/11 Was an Israeli Job – How America was neoconned into World War IV”:
    — (https://www.unz.com/article/911-was-an-israeli-job/)

    “‘9-11/Israel did it’ – Wikispooks”:
    — (https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it)

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  99. SafeNow says:

    The war had two purposes, and both were accomplished. (1) Spend a lot of military money; and (2) Show Russia and China that the US, regarding military strategy, is quite insane. And thereby prevent any major military adventures by those nuclear powers, because they cannot predict what an insane US might do. And so escalation into a nuclear ashpile is prevented.

    Spend money, display insanity. Mission accomplished. Just like Vietnam. There never was any other purpose. On to the next expensive, nonsensical deployment.

  100. @animalogic

    “America seized on the opportunity to invade and then occupy Afghanistan after 911 was the fact that, with US forces and bases already positioned in Iraq,”
    I think there’s a problem with your timeline…..?

    The post-911 project in Afghanistan was never separate from Zio-America’s earlier (and ongoing) efforts to crush/transform Iraq (Operation Desert Storm, for instance) not to mention other anti-Zionist regimes in that region. This is why permanent US bases were installed in Iraq following its ‘liberation’ from Saddam Hussein. Zio-Washington will never allow genuine Iraqi self-determination. Never. Germany understands this process. Crushing ‘anti-Semitism’ is a permanent war conducted now through both Washington and Israel. And this kosher crusade has no expiration date. This is why Iran is being targeted relentlessly. America has become Israel’s headless battering ram.

    This cabal in charge of Israel’s global campaign has targeted Assad’s Syria, Gaddafi’s Libya (R.I.P.), Hezbollah in Lebanon, as well as numerous other pockets of anti-Zionist resistance wherever and whenever they appear. Israel first, now and forever.

    The fanatical Jews in charge are methodical, savvy, unified, coordinated, highly-placed, and very well-funded.

    Just as the attacks on 911 were reprisals against decades of unfair and cold-hearted, pro-Israel US-policies in the Middle East; the subsequent Zio-American war in Afghanistan was never separate from the grander, regional plan which seeks to destabilize or neutralize all anti-Zionist regimes/movements. (Soon after 911, Gen. Wesley Clark famously revealed US plans to take out seven countries in five years, even though none of these distant nations posed any conceivable threat to American security. This is the power of Zion.)

    The opportunity to weaken/intimidate/destabilize Iran was surely factored into Zio-America’s attacks on both Iraq and Afghanistan. You can also expect that the ongoing US-Israeli effort to destabilize Iran will likely use radical cells operating out of adjacent Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Israel wants this organized subversion to appear home-grown even though much of it is financed and orchestrated from outside, with Israeli oversight.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  101. @David Homer

    So why do you amplify his use of “we” to refer to the USG?

    Keeping Americans identified with the Establishment is one of the most effective propaganda tools.

  102. @Pat Kittle

    Or Yandex

    https://yandex.com/search/?text=dancing+israelis&lr=10427

    https://yandex.com/search/?text=dancing+israelis+911&lr=10427

    People still use google ?
    Even employ the verb “to google” …

    LOL (though it isn’t funny really)

    • Thanks: Pat Kittle
  103. 3m ago 14:41
    Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has left the country

    The Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani has left the country reports Afghanistan’s TOLO News.

    The story has now been confirmed by Al-Jazeera.

    Looks like its over already.
    The above quote is from the Guardian live page.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/15/afghanistan-taliban-close-in-on-kabul-as-last-government-stronghold-in-north-falls

  104. George Bush lost the war.

    It was lost the moment it started.

  105. Exile says:
    @Pat Kittle

    LOL – I overlooked that – should’ve said “Bing” it.

    Arthur’s right, I was using Google as a verb – which is like using “molest” as a synonym for “love.”

    Not holding my breath for Jokem to achieve a breakthrough here. I think he’s going to cling to the narrative he likes. Please prove me wrong.

    Ryan Dawson’s website is good for 9/11 truth if you want to skip the preliminaries and go straight to the hard stuff.

    • Replies: @Jokem
    , @Pat Kittle
  106. Wokechoke says:
    @Anon

    Fighting wars to benefit Jewish donors only worked in ww2.

  107. Wokechoke says:
    @mark green

    This is the best analysis I’ve seen on the topic. The last viable rebellion, or maybe the first was Uncle A. He may not have even believed his own story, if he did believe his own story he badly underestimated their capability to manipulate the Anglo into a war on the scale of ww2. Personally I think this pullout is sign that Crimea or Taiwan are gonna get hot.

    • Replies: @Jokem
  108. Wokechoke says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    They were fighting as golems for Uncle Shmueli. That’s the sad thing. All those fine young men butchered to make America safe for Ilan Omar and Cori Bush!

  109. Coming up: the new Hollywood blockbuster on Afghanistan, “Bloodhawk Down”:

    Tom Cruise (it’s always Tom Cruise) is Major Bloodhawk, a brave helicopter pilot evacuating Americans from the Kabul embassy. Suddenly he gets a call from his old mate Quislinguddin in Kandahar! A girl threatened with marriage to an Evil Talib Commander needs rescuing! Tom pilots his Chinook – against official orders – to Kandahar, uses the rotor blades to break open the Taliban commander’s dastardly fortified residence, fights off the entire Taliban contingent with the help of his trusty door gunner…played by the guy in Jurassic World…and rescues the girl! Unfortunately Quislinguddin is killed by the Taliban commander just as the helicopter lifts off. Tom weeps bitter tears over Quislinguddin’s corpse, but the girl lays a comforting hand on his shoulder. He looks up at her and smiles. End credits.

    Oscar material, yo.

  110. Andreas says:

    How many U.S. generals knew what was going on but declined to risk their careers by telling Congress or the country that the Afghan army and regime we had stood up would likely collapse like a house of cards once the Americans departed and they had to face the Taliban alone?

    Mr. Buchanan, you answered your own question with this question.

  111. Jokem says:
    @Exile

    I’m not a big fan of the USA and it’s entangling alliances. It is hard to know what news source is credible as many of them have an agenda. Just because it is published on the internet does not make it true. Using terms like ‘to Google’ when you mean something else is a careless way to communicate and does nothing to enhance your credibility.

    • Replies: @Exile
  112. Jokem says:
    @Wokechoke

    I always thought it was the Japanese who manipulated the USA to get into WW2?

  113. @Exile

    Not holding my breath for Jokem to achieve a breakthrough here. I think he’s going to cling to the narrative he likes. Please prove me wrong.

    Jokem “cling[s] to the narrative he likes” because Jokem is almost certainly a Jew, pushing a Jew supremacist agenda.

    ISRAEL ACTUALLY HIRES & TRAINS THESE “HASBARA” TROLLS:
    — (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hasbara+jew+troll&t=chromentp&atb=v214-1&ia=web)

    This recent comment from “Rurik” meticulously delineates Jew supremacist treason, treachery, & genocidal sadism:
    — (https://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/a-tonkin-gulf-incident-in-the-gulf-of-oman/#comment-4829980)

    Jokem the hasbara troll can’t refute any of it, so he calls Rurik a troll.

    In due time it becomes easier to identify online hasbara trolling, and we realize most hasbara are laughably clumsy propagandists. However, some hasbara (such as Jokem) are more erudite & subtle, so recognizing them takes longer.

    • Troll: Jokem
    • Replies: @Jokem
  114. Jokem says:
    @Pat Kittle

    I am at loathe to debase myself with a response here, but this comment is so laughable I just have to respond. On my mothers side it was German and Irish. On dad’s side it was really a Heinz57, no one really knows, I think his father was Germanic, but his ancestry was mostly unknown. I do know dad did not like Jews, not to the extent of condemning them to the gas chamber, to work-to-death camps.
    I know he respected the Germans as hard-working and productive people, and like many soldiers out of WW2, considered them formidable combatants.

    Me, I think Jews ought to be afforded the same rights under a free market as anyone else, with minimum government interference. Much like people with Jewish blood, like Barry Goldwater or Milton Friedman.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  115. JimDandy says:
    @Greta Handel

    This is going so poorly that I find myself wondering if it’s on purpose–to somehow further demoralize “patriots” or any American who still feels warmly about the American flag.

    But I know it’s probably just the kind of ineptitude that comes with absolute power.

  116. @Jokem

    Denying you’re Jewish is kosher if it promotes the Hasbara Jew agenda — but whatever you are, you certainly promote the (((Jew supremacist agenda))).

    So utterly predictable — you even invoke the so-called “Holocau\$t”:

    I do know dad did not like Jews, not to the extent of condemning them to the gas chamber, to work-to-death camps.

    Yeah right, “gas chamber”!
    🙂
    Your Germans-gassed-Jews-to-death fable is so easily debunked that Jew supremacists have connived to make it illegal to debunk it! As a result, Germans are doing hard time in prison right now — for merely questioning their own WWII history, and arriving at conclusions displeasing to anti-White Jew supremacists!

    Meanwhile Jews keep raking in endless \$\$\$ BILLIONS \$\$\$ in “reparations” — if that isn’t the ultimate extortion racket I don’t know what is.

    Let’s not forget the \$\$\$ TRILLIONS \$\$\$ we’ve pissed away fighting (((wars for Israel))) against whomever Jews designate as the “New Hitler.” But even that doesn’t compare to the mind-boggling horror & misery these (((wars))) have cost the entire non-Jewish world.

    Of course you know all this.

    So tell us, “Jokem” — do you support legalizing free inquiry into the alleged “Holocaust” — and freeing & compensating everyone who is currently imprisoned for doing so?

    We’ll see who you are by how you answer (or don’t answer) that question.

    • Replies: @Jokem
  117. There’s a religious delusion on the part of many Americans that probably affects politics with the Arab world. That is that there are three “Abrahamic religions.” We may have this notion in the back of our minds and it may make us apt to underestimate the differences with Islam.

    If you go by what Jesus said, there is but one Abrahamic religion, namely orthodox Christianity. Jesus said that Abraham rejoiced to see His, Jesus’, day; Abraham saw it and was glad (St. John 8:56). Our Lord is saying that Abraham had faith in Him.

    Judaism has largely lost hope of a Messiah, I gather, or else thinks the Messiah was not Jesus but is to come. Islam rejects the belief that Jesus is the Son of God, was truly crucified and died, and rose again for our justification. For that matter, quite a bit of mainline Protestantism and Catholicism sentiment is at best shaky about this.

    Most Americans probably do not hold to real Abrahamic religion, but this “Abrahamic religions” thing can fuddle their thinking. It might be well to dismiss it.

  118. Jokem says:
    @Pat Kittle

    ‘Denying you’re Jewish is kosher if it promotes the Hasbara Jew agenda — but whatever you are, you certainly promote the (((Jew supremacist agenda))).’

    OK, so now I am not Jewish but a Jewish ‘agent’ of some sort? Make up your mind.

    ‘We’ll see who you are by how you answer (or don’t answer) that question.’

    I think your definition of ‘free inquiry’ is to accept only what supports your pre-existing conclusion.
    Anything contradicting that will be discounted as Jewish propaganda. You will dig into the structure of whatever research agency conducted the research and find a Jew there, or someone with Jewish friends or connections of some sort and reject the entire thing.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  119. @Jokem

    I asked you:

    Do you support legalizing free inquiry into the alleged “Holocaust” — and freeing & compensating everyone who is currently imprisoned for doing so?

    We’ll see who you are by how you answer (or don’t answer) that question.

    You’ve now confirmed it:

    You support imprisoning “Holocaust deniers” (anyone who disputes the OFFICIAL SACRED INFALLIBLE JEW VERSION OF WWII HISTORY) — meaning most of us contributing to the Unz Review, including Ron Unz.

    If you’re not a (((hasbara Jew troll))), you sure do a great impersonation of (((one))):

    Hasbara Jew troll:
    — (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Hasbara+Jew+troll&t=chromentp&atb=v214-1&ia=web)

    • Replies: @Jokem
  120. Incitatus says:
    @Pat Kittle

    “Golly, (((you))) go to great lengths to blame the servile Shabbos goys who faithfully followed orders from their (((Israel lobby masters)))”

    Thanks, Pat. Took little effort. History is history, and goys gave the orders (sorry).

    Could easily have listed (along with Bernard Lewis and Richard Pearl), Wolfowitz, Adelman, Feith, Krauthammer, Frum, Ledeen, Friedman, Wurmser, Safire, Kristol(s), Podhoretz, Boot, Goldberg, Netanyahu and probably many others in the chorus urging invading Iraq. What’s the point?

    Then I’d have to mention goys Charlie Wilson, William Casey, Dick Cheney, Jerry Falwell, Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson, Condi Rice, Donny Rumsfeld, Newt Gingrich, John Ashcroft, Tom DeLay, Ann Coulter, Oliver North, James Woolsey, etc. Or (back to basics) good Presbyterian Dulles Brothers (who gleefully engineered the overthrow of Mossadegh and Iranian democracy 1953; the overthrow of Arbenz in Guatemala 1954 (United Fruit was a client of Foster’s law firm). And of course, Bay of Pigs 1961.

    Stay well Pat.

    Check your bed, cupboards and closets for “Israeli Masters” without fail morning, day and night. Can’t be too careful. Don’t worry about CIA skill-less history PhD tools like Phil Giraldi (who would dutifully cut your throat to earn pension/health coverage, then go anti-Jew for a little more sweet 501c3 tax-exempt DC action).

    Stay well Pat.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  121. @Incitatus

    I said — “Golly, (((you))) go to great lengths to blame the servile Shabbos goys who faithfully followed orders from their (((Israel lobby masters)))”

    (((You))) now name some of their Israel lobby masters — good for (((you)))!

  122. “It seems only Muslims and Muslim nations have the testicular fortitude to stand up to Zionist aggression whether coming their large American colony or from the Israel epicenter. ”

    Muslims nations have all caved in to China. Leaders of the Muslim world like Saudi Arabia and the influential UAE have become quite chummy with Israel. Iran is the exception, thumbing its nose at the West and Israel.

    • Replies: @Jokem
  123. anon[375] • Disclaimer says:

    So far only chaos from this development is killing of a few by US army near the airport and deaths of 7 from fall from the plane or running over by the aircraft .

  124. Jokem says:
    @greysquirrell

    Iran is not the only exception, but is a significant one.
    What needs to happen is examine why largely Muslim nations have managed to have peaceful diplomatic relations with Israel? I think part of the answer is they do not want Iran to become a Nuclear Power.

  125. Jokem says:
    @Pat Kittle

    ‘You support imprisoning “Holocaust deniers” (anyone who disputes the OFFICIAL SACRED INFALLIBLE JEW VERSION OF WWII HISTORY) — meaning most of us contributing to the Unz Review, including Ron Unz.’

    No I don’t, and show me where I said that.

    If you are going to continue to accuse me of things I did not say and what I am not, there is no point in continuing this thread.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  126. @Jokem

    In true (((hasbara troll))) fashion (((you))) refuse to say whether (((you))) oppose imprisoning “Holocaust deniers.”

    Instead (((you))) give us (((your opinion))) of “Holocaust deniers.”

    We already know what (((you))) think of us — the question is:

    DO (((YOU))) OPPOSE IMPRISONING “HOLOCAUST DENIERS”?

    • Replies: @Jokem
  127. Jokem says:
    @Pat Kittle

    ‘DO (((YOU))) OPPOSE IMPRISONING “HOLOCAUST DENIERS”?’

    I believe in a free press. Imprisoning people for expressing opinion is exactly what the 1st amendment is about. Holocaust Deniers, as absurd as that is, ought to be allowed to express their opinion, even in the face of evidence to the contrary.

    And if you continue to deluge me with comments in capitals, I will cease discussing this with you.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  128. @Jokem

    I use Caps Lock sparingly, but when (((you))) respond to a simple question with evasive gaslighting, I repeat the question in Caps — which (((you))), after much squirming, have now answered:

    Holocaust Deniers, as absurd as that is, ought to be allowed to express their opinion,

    Excellent!

    We both know that people are doing hard time in prison, right now, for simply expressing their opinion about the alleged “Holocaust” — and (((you))) now admit that imprisoning them is wrong.

    QUESTION:
    Those wrongly convicted innocent prisoners should be freed, apologized to, and given reparations. Right??

    • Replies: @Jokem
  129. Jokem says:
    @Pat Kittle

    Restate this without the caps for ran answer.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  130. @Jokem

    Restate this without the caps for ran answer.

    Sure, now that we’ve got (((your))) attention:

    I use Caps Lock sparingly, but when (((you))) respond to a simple question with evasive gaslighting, I repeat the question in Caps — which (((you))), after much squirming, have now answered:

    Holocaust Deniers, as absurd as that is, ought to be allowed to express their opinion,

    Excellent!

    We both know that people are doing hard time in prison, right now, for simply expressing their opinion about the alleged “Holocaust” — and (((you))) now admit that imprisoning them is wrong.

    Question:
    Those wrongly convicted innocent prisoners should be freed, apologized to, and given reparations. Right??

  131. Jokem says:

    ‘Those wrongly convicted innocent prisoners should be freed, apologized to, and given reparations. Right??’

    I don’t think imprisoning people for venturing an opinion is right. They ought to be freed and maybe reparations given, depending on how long they were in jail.

    This entire thread seems to be getting tiresome. Can you get to the point?

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  132. Wokechoke says:
    @USA1943

    Kill all the men, enslave the women and settle your own population there. That’s the real solution.

  133. Exile says:
    @Jokem

    Typical bad faith trolling we see at Unz – and as PK says, you’re likely a paid hasbara shill – deflecting the conversation into pointless style quibbles and tangents and doing pilpul like you’ve had plenty of practice.

    For readers seeking information in good faith, check out Dawson’s site. Jokem doesn’t want you to – that should be reason enough to take a look.

    Jokem, you seem very invested in dominating and derailing this thread – discrediting everyone who doesn’t buy the standard issue neo-con narrative on 9/11. Why?

    • Agree: Pat Kittle
    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @Jokem
  134. Sparkon says:
    @Exile

    In his article here, Pat Buchanan describes 9/11 as “the worst terrorist attack ever on the continental United States,” yet he somehow manages to avoid mentioning the name of former president George W. Bush even once in his article “Who Lost America’s Longest War?”

    The Bush administration went to war in Afghanistan on false pretenses. Should we really be surprised that a war based on lies ended ignominiously?

    There was never even a scintilla of evidence that Osama bin Laden had anything at all to do with the false flag attacks on the WTC and Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001. Please see my previous comment:

    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/a-saigon-moment-looms-in-kabul/#comment-4845757

    As commenter Brad Ambro notes in response to my comment, after the Bush administration accused Osama bin Laden of orchestrating the 9/11 attacks, the Taliban asked for proof of his involvement, and of course the Bush administration couldn’t provide any.

    Nor could the FBI, who never charged bin Laden with any crime related to 9/11.

    What is more, in the days after 9/11, several of the alleged Arab kamikaze hijackers turned up alive, well, and protesting their innocence.

    Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.

    His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world.

    Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

    Certainly, knowledgeable 9/11 skeptics realize there are a host of problems with the allegedly hijacked airliners, especially AA 11, which reportedly was not even scheduled to fly on Sept. 11, 2001, and for which there was no “wheels up” BTS data showing the airplane ever took off. There have been long discussions at UR about flight attendant Betty Ong, who allegedly called AA reservations, of all places, to report a hijacking of her airplane. Please see Jonathan Revusky’s UR article from 2018 Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty

    You wrote:

    Ryan Dawson’s website is good for 9/11 truth if you want to skip the preliminaries and go straight to the hard stuff.

    Kevin Barrett’s current article at Unz Review has some discussion about Ryan Dawson, who apparently believes a plane really did hit the Pentagon, and also that Building 7 at the WTC collapsed due to office fires. I haven’t read Dawson, but apparently he also thinks that fires could have brought down the Twin Towers.

    https://www.unz.com/audio/kbarrett_steven-rosenbaum-new-9-11-film-the-outsider-may-help-spark-necessary-conversations/

    I suggest most serious 9/11 skeptics now agree that the WTC was destroyed by pre-planted explosives, and many now subscribe to the no planes theory (NPT), often pointing to Michael Hezarkhani’s notorious still image of UA 175 appearing to plunge into WTC 2 with no reaction from either airplane or building, which would have been impossible, and proves that the video was phony, created with CGI.

    If there had been real hijacked airliners crashing into the WTC on 9/11, there would have been plenty of aircraft wreckage, and no need for fake videos.

    Additionally, if there really had been hijacked airliners on 9/11, they would have been intercepted by the USAF. Since no hijacked airliners were intercepted on 9/11, we may reasonably conclude there weren’t any.

    • Agree: Brad Anbro
  135. @Sparkon

    There was some confusion in the beginning over people with similar names. But it appears that the “hijackers still alive” story was just a confusion over names.

    http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Hijackers_still_alive

  136. Jokem says:
    @Exile

    Virtually everything you said about me here is untrue. These are simply unfounded personal attacks.
    I am done talking to you.

  137. @Jokem

    This entire thread seems to be getting tiresome.

    (((You))) just (deliberately) broke the thread, by not using the “Reply” button when responding to me.

    Of course this is “tiresome” for you.

    (((YOU))), a hasbara Jew troll, ADMIT that “HOLOCAUST DENIERS” are INNOCENT and should be FREED from PRISON and GIVEN REPARATIONS.
    🙂

    “Netanyahu: Hitler Didn’t Want to Exterminate the Jews”
    — (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/netanyahu-absolves-hitler-of-guilt-1.5411578)

    (((You people))) can’t keep (((your Holocau\$t narrative))) straight.
    🙂

    • Replies: @Jokem
  138. Incitatus says:
    @Sparkon

    Excellent post Sparkon! WTC Nukes-in-the-basement Iris can learn from you!

    What happened to your trademark annoying bold first letter? Can any be confident you’re really Sparkon (rather than one of the mass legion of pretenders? We all know them – evil, evil, evil each and every one)!

    Admire how you manage to post strapped in straight-jacket. Stylus in mouth pecking at a keyboard?

  139. Jokem says:
    @Pat Kittle

    I give you the same response I gave exile. I am tired of your personal attacks and am done discussing this with you.

  140. I am tired of your personal attacks and am done discussing this with you.

    Of course (((you))) are!
    🙂
    What could be more humiliating for a hasbara Jew troll*, than to have to ADMIT that “HOLOCAUST DENIERS” are INNOCENT and should be FREED from PRISON and GIVEN REPARATIONS.
    🙂
    “Netanyahu: Hitler Didn’t Want to Exterminate the Jews”
    — (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/netanyahu-absolves-hitler-of-guilt-1.5411578)

    Like I said, (((you people))) can’t keep (((your Holocau\$t narrative))) straight — (((your monstrous extortion racket))) is crumbling; the awful truth is emerging.

    Enjoy (((it))) while (((you))) can, the world is wising up — (((you))) will be held accountable.
    🙂

    *Hasbara Jew trolls:
    — (https://educate-yourself.org/cn/The-Goyim-Guide-to-Hasbara-Trolls-from-Jonathon-Blakeley22nov11.shtml#top)

  141. Wielgus says:
    @USA1943

    No. Notice they never declare war nowadays. There are “wars” on vague concepts like “terrorism”, which can mean anything or nothing but do mean your civil liberties go out the window. Or “wars” on Covid, which seems to develop a new variant as soon as it looks like it is responding to measures.

  142. Tsigantes says:

    Excellent observations as ever, Mr. Buchanan, thank you.

    Allow me to point out that ‘In the name of Democracy’ is not the same thing as actual democracy: both Karzai and Ghanzi were appointed by a foreign occupier, not elected by Afghans.

    Secondly,

    How many other U.S. allies field paper armies, which will collapse, if they do not have the Americans there to do the heavy lifting?

    Answer: Israel, for one.

  143. Americans need to understand not everybody in the world wants their culture or way of life.

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