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Virginia is a newly blue state, with a Democratic governor and two Democratic senators, that Joe Biden won by 10 points.

Hence, former Gov. Terry McAuliffe was an early and solid favorite to regain the office he vacated in 2017. But if McAuliffe loses Tuesday, the defeat will be measured on the Richter scale.

For if he does lose, it will be because of an elitist belief McAuliffe blurted out during a debate with Republican rival Glenn Youngkin:

“I’m not going to let parents come into schools and actually take books out and make their own decisions. … I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.”

Yet, during his own term as governor, one Virginia school district pulled copies of “To Kill a Mockingbird” and “Huckleberry Finn” out of the schools because of the books’ use of racial slurs.

What McAuliffe was saying was that the knowledge, truths and beliefs imparted to children in public schools are to be determined by school officials and teachers alone. Parents have no role and should butt out.

His dismissal of any parental role in education did more than cause a backlash against McAuliffe. It put on the national agenda an issue that will be engaged and fought long after this Virginia governor’s race is over.

Former President Barack Obama was not amused at Virginia’s reaction to McAuliffe’s rejection of any parental role in education.

“We don’t have time to be wasting on these phony, trumped-up culture wars,” said Obama during a campaign stop for McAuliffe.

But to the voters of Virginia, who have been moving to Youngkin since McAuliffe made his now-famous remark, these are real issues.

For what their children are taught and not taught in the public schools to which parents consign them from age 5 to age 18 are matters of grave concern for those parents. For it will affect the kind of adults and citizens their children will become.

“Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man” is a saying attributed to the Jesuits’ founder St. Ignatius of Loyola.

These schools are helping shape what children come to believe about the moral, social and historical issues tearing our country apart. These schools are helping shape the men and women these children will become.

Consider. Under the landmark Supreme Court rulings in Roe v. Wade and Obergefell v. Hodges, abortion and same-sex marriage have been made constitutional rights. Yet both decisions contradict biblical truths, Catholic doctrine and natural law.

While both decisions are today the law of the land, have parents no right to object if public-school teachers instruct their students that these decisions were right, moral and just? Do students and parents have no right to dissent, both inside and outside the classroom?

According to the New York Times’ “1619 Project,” American history began when the first slaves arrived in Virginia, not when the colonies declared independence in 1776 or when the Constitution was ratified.

ORDER IT NOW

Do parents have no right to object if the tenets of critical race theory — that America is shot through with “systemic racism,” that whites are privileged from birth and blacks oppressed — are taught as truth about the country to which they have given their loyalty and love?

For generations, statues to Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson stood on Monument Avenue in Richmond, Virginia. Now that the statues are torn down, both are reviled as “traitors.”

Yet, until he was 40 years of age, George Washington was a loyal British subject. But when Virginia rose up against the British Crown, Washington joined the rebellion. Robert E. Lee was also a loyal U.S. soldier and hero of the Mexican War, until his home state Virginia seceded.

Both men were slave-owners. The great difference: Washington was victorious at Yorktown, and Lee surrendered at Appomattox.

President Dwight Eisenhower regarded Lee, whose portrait he hung in the Oval Office, as among the greatest of all Americans.

Whose view of Lee should be taught? Eisenhower’s or Harvard’s?

The question raised by McAuliffe is: Who decides? Who, in the education of America’s children, decides what is historically, morally and socially true? And who is allowed to participate in those decisions?

The nation is today divided over whether America is a good and a great country, or whether it has been irredeemably stained by its sins against the indigenous peoples and slavery. As the Dutch historian Pieter Geyl said, “History is indeed an argument without end.”

Again, the question: Who decides which version is taught in the public schools that are paid for with the tax dollars of the parents who send their children there?

Middle America’s view of the country is more than a little distant from the Ivy League’s, and somewhat closer to Merle Haggard’s. “When you’re running down my country, you’re walking on the fighting side of me.”

Whatever happens Tuesday, “the McAuliffe issue” will be on the table in the elections of 2022.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

 
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  1. Who decides what sort of brainwashing is proper for gentile children?

    Take a wild guess.

  2. Jews decided kids should learn this.

  3. Pat Buchanan, please don’t quote stuff from the country music crowd. Oh, I like country music just fine. I have a few classic albums. My question is “Just what have the tough sounding big men on the country music scene been doing to fight the insanity of the Biden Administration? Nothing, that’s what. They don’t want record sales affected. As if the handful of people on the left that listen to Give me a break.country music is going to affect anything if they stop listening. These cowboys are just as freaked and scared of the left, as your average tough talking truck driver. Please, no more quoting songs that have the , Don’t tread on me theme. It’s phony as hell coming from the country music pansies.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
    , @voicum
  4. Secession from toxic blue states should never be off the table.

  5. G. Poulin says:

    In a related matter, Ann Coulter asks “Will the Supreme Court uphold the Constitution and the rule of law?” We’ve been holding our breath and waiting for the answer for 150 years. We can exhale. The answer is “No, it won’t.”

  6. Realist says:

    Who Decides What Kids Should be Taught?

    It’s sure as hell, not parents.

  7. Dumbo says:

    Who Decides What Kids Should be Taught?

    Jews.

    Next question.

    It’s been ages since parents (or just normal people) had any say in what children are taught, and soon also the government will take the parents’ right to decide what’s good for the child’s health. Vaccinate them and give them myocarditis, or else.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  8. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    It’s phony as hell coming from the country music pansies.

    ‘The Fightin’ Side of Me’ was released more than fifty years ago in 1970. Merle Haggard died five years ago. Don’t be a putz.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  9. Vinnie O says:

    Idiots. I can see that NONE of you have ever been in a Requirements Analysis Working Group.

    Requirements for ANY organized Instruction START with DISCOVERING the Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities that a Student (regardless of age) needs to demonstrate to get their tick-mark and advance to the NEXT set of Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities.

    So activities for any SPECIFIC Class can ONLY be determined “backwards” from the Top Level Requirement (e.g., “Advance to 4th Grade REQUIREMENTS”).

    Individual teachers DO NOT simply sit down and write crap during lunch. The teacher MUST prepare class “knowledge transfer” as a STEP toward the student demonstrating some level of competence (not necessarily Mastery) . This is generally hierarchical: mastery of Addition and Subtraction are REQUIRED Skills for understanding Multiplication, etc.

    You CAN of course “teach the ANSWERS”, rather than the Methods. And people (e.g., Parents) who have NO UNDERSTANDING of Methodical Instruction can simply teach children to MEMORIZE the Multiplication Tables, etc.

    This a NOT the place for “well meaning” recommendation from illiterates (including the idiot News guys). Methods for SYSTEMATIC class development were defined 100 years ago. AMATEURS need not apply.

    The Top Level Requirements are created and distributed by State Education Boards and such. And of course SHOULD match lists of Entry Requirements for each level documented “education”.

    • Replies: @Vinnie O
    , @Anonymous
  10. Vinnie O says:
    @Vinnie O

    Hey! I think I’m FAMOUS!!! It appears that Unz now believes that I’m such a threat to Civilization that EVERY ONE of my Comments gets reviewed by a Dedicated Overseer. Go skulk in a corner ye mere Revolutionaries!! VinO has posted ANOTHER comment on Truth and Understanding!!! Surely Civilization will collapse by the weekend.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
    , @voicum
  11. @Veteran Aryan

    It’s not only about the song created fifty years ago sir. In fact, Haggard is one of my favorites. It’s about the sad attitude of the whole “country music crowd” towards this treason. No one expects them to go out and riot against Biden. They would probably get shot down. But as so called solid conservatives in “fly over states” (a derogatory term the left uses in case there is any confusion) they keep up the “don’t tread on me attitude, ” while essentially doing squat. Not even non-violent opposition. The record sales both here and internationally might dip. Peace.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  12. anon[296] • Disclaimer says:

    Education is the #1 reason why the left is winning the culture war. The left has figured out long ago that our schools are where the battle is at. First they took over the colleges, then the high schools, then middle schools, now it’s down to elementary schools and even preschools. Conservatives’ biggest mistake was letting go of education. It’s time to wake up.

    The left’s take over of the Education Industrial Complex (EIC) started in the late 60’s with all the Vietnam war protests on college campuses. In the 70’s, these liberal college grads grew up and became faculty and administrators in colleges all over the country. From there, they indoctrinated generations of future K-12 teachers, journalists, lawyers, politicians, university faculty and administrators with their leftist ideology. Eventually, they took over our elite colleges as students, faculty and administrators, and started things like US News College Rankings to ensure there continues to be a group of “elite” colleges with small enrollment and rich endowments that serve as gatekeepers to high-paying elite careers in our society to encourage the rat race and frenzy among our kids and parents. Dangling these golden handcuffs in front of families, they can now sit comfortably atop their lofty perch and issue the edict from on high. Whatever Harvard does, everyone else follows.

    The battle for our kids’ education is one we must win, and it should begin with that credentialing cartel known as higher ed. Our doggedness to send our kids to these bastions of left wing elitism, arrogance, self-importance and hypocrisy give the left all the power. To take back education, the first thing conservatives need to do is get our children off the elite college track. Take pride in sending our kids to local community colleges to save money or no college at all, just certificate programs, trade schools or coding schools. Once the pressure a.k.a. golden handcuffs of elite college are off, we’ll no longer feel powerless to teachers in K-12 who control our kids’ grades and recommendations and can begin to fight for their education alongside them by loudly and boldly protesting the increasingly one-sided curriculum and various ridiculous school policies esp. with regards to gender.

    The pandemic could give us the reset we all needed. Conservatives need to eschew materialism and return to asceticism. Remote work can now enable parents who live in expensive coastal cities to move to cheaper small towns and live on one parent’s income, or the whole family could take up farming. One or both parents could homeschool the kids K-12. Homeschooling is our great way out. But if that’s not an option, then parents must band together to fight the schools, starting from the small towns and work our way up, and from K through 12, and enlist our children to fight alongside us by not being afraid to speak alternative viewpoints in class.

    • Agree: Veteran Aryan
  13. Liberals have an inordinate need to control other people’s lives. Liberals seek to indoctrinate American children with their flawed evil propaganda. ”Critical Race Theory ” is just Brainwashing white children that they are evil and racist at a time when 99 percent of blacks are murdered by other blacks and the people of the 3rd world are rushing to get to ”evil racist America.”

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  14. Vinnie O says:
    @anon

    Yes. People keep wanting to discuss this Bottom-Up starting with their local school. But that’s NOT the way the SYSTEM works.

  15. USA1943 says:

    With what is going on CURRENTLY, Hitler should be seen as a Hero, he tried to stop all this degeneracy meaning LGBTQ Agenda, Also Hitler was strongly Anti=Communist, as you see CURRENTLY All this Anti-White Stuff is tied to Communism. The way the Far Left (Which is MOST of the Democrat Elected Officials) Talks about Whites they CLEARLY Hate Whites and would Genocide them if they could, Sadly Whites rarely fight back, look for the Anti-White Rhetoric and Agenda to not only continue, but to escalate.

    Am I wrong?

  16. Thomasina says:

    I remember arriving at a school meeting (which the administrators told us beforehand was only going to be an “information meeting”, just to get feedback from parents, nothing was written in stone, nothing decided, etc.)

    Yeah, right. Nothing could have been further from the truth. After only a few minutes I could see that they were not interested in feedback at all; they just wanted to push their agenda through.

    Parents attended in good faith, thought they could ask questions and get answers, and then would be given time to think about it, but instead they were met by a well-oiled agenda machine. I looked around the large crowd and saw some angry faces, many blank faces, and I was taken aback by the calm, but forceful demeanor of the administrators, like they were handling an assembly of kindergarteners.

    Because the parents were surprised, off-guard, they didn’t know what to say – exactly as planned.

    I also remember when they pushed through sex education for the kids. I remember glancing over at my son who was all of about six or seven and thinking “WTF”. The experts and administrators presented the issue as if your child would be stifled if he wasn’t introduced to this information at an early age. So maddening. No, I didn’t speak up, even though I didn’t like it; I was too stupid and unsure of myself at that time. That wouldn’t happen now.

    Parents need to set boundaries around their children, reclaim them, and make sure that whatever is taught is age-appropriate.

    The purpose of education shouldn’t be to indoctrinate children, shove propaganda down their throats, but to present both sides of an issue in order that they may develop critical thinking skills.

    I saw what the school system did to my kids. There wasn’t a day that went by that they weren’t hauled off to the gym to have their heads filled with progressive crap. Did they swallow it? Yes, they did, but I’m happy to report that it’s all unwinding, albeit slowly, because they’re finally growing up.

    Take back your country.

    • Replies: @PJ London
  17. With the Covid hysterics, children have realistically been out of school for well over a year. Any schooling they’ve gotten was just so much theater; pretend education.

    The parents should 100% remove their children from the public schools. Let the teachers unions rot. Let the school boards rot. Let the state propaganda mechanism wither and die.

    Parents should en masse withhold their tax payments until such time as the public education portion is removed since public schooling doesn’t work and hasn’t worked in decades for the price paid. What is the state going to do when there’s a tax revolt for cause? Even the media can’t spin the story in the gov’ts favor since the attempt would be laughed at.

    It is way past time to kill public education at least at the grade school level and make education accountable to parents by only having private schools. Sell off the public school infrastructure to the free market and allow a for profit system to emerge that will only hire competent teachers and provide an education that parents can honestly say they got their money’s worth.

  18. Who decides which version is taught in the public schools that are paid for with the tax dollars of the parents who send their children there?

    The short answer is unelected, government bureaucrats. But PB’s question is all wrong. The correct question is “Why do we even need a public education system?”

    Please allow me to clear up one misconception: At least ⅓ of school parents are not payers. They are net takers; the number doubles for parents with multiple kids in school. (State governments spend, on average, ~\$19K per kid*yr. For the ultra-worstest, inner-city schools the figure is > \$30K.)

    School parents are a very entitled bunch who think that when it comes to choice of curriculum, that their voices should matter most, if not exclusively. Despite this, non-utilizing payers — including childless couples and those who use(d) private schools — still have some say, though way less than they deserve. A_p_e is a special case of the latter: nobody wants to hear its opinion.

    [MORE]

    Public school instruction would suck just as much if department chairs were Princeton faculty, if boards were comprised of business all-stars like Musk, etc. The schools are governed by literally thousands of regulations. The two worstest are compulsory attendance (school is even for kids who don’t want to go) and the 180d @6+hrs school “year” (school has to be expensive).

    Public education curriculum is just another totally avoidable, political problem caused by too much government. If education were a 100% private affair, then what schools do/not teach would matter to people about as much as does the menu at McDonald’s.

  19. The Zionist agenda is an ambitious one, to tear down and re-write Western history completely.

    In the new telling of Western history, the West does not spring from Athens/Greco-Roman/ Northwest Europe. It’s central element is Judaic, from the Levant. Your history begins there.

    Your children will be indoctrinated into the Holocaust lie. It’s ‘the most important event in history’, according to the new agenda.

    You are not distinctly Christian, you are Judeo-Christian. Christian holidays like Christmas and Easter are funny shopping events, but Jewish holidays are solemn. You get the side that can be mocked, they get the side which must be respected and revered. Your side is historically committing sins, their side is spiritually repairing. You are the subordinate partner in the ‘Judeo-Christian’ doctrine.

    Your pre-Christian faiths, which existed in Athens, Rome and pagan Europe, are dismissed as nothing of value. In the new Western history, it wasn’t until the Abrahamic religions arrived that the foundations of Western identity were laid.

    The ambition of the Zionist supremacists is to program gentile children’s minds to a new version of Western identity, which implicitly places Jewish leadership in the driver’s seat.

    Total mind control from an early age.

  20. anon[661] • Disclaimer says:

    There is sometimes this idea that the hippy Boomers of the swinging 60’s and 70’s were followed by the conservative GenX yuppies of the 80’s and 90’s, and therefore, there is hope that GenZ could revert to conservatism following in the heels of uber liberal Millennials.

    But was GenX really conservative? This is the generation that made popular shows like Melrose Place, Friends, Sex and the City, Sopranos, singers/rappers like Vanilla Ice, Prince, Eminem, Madonna and movies like Wall Street and the Romcom genre. It is the generation that was peaking through the ’87 financial crisis, the ’90’s dotcom boom, 9/11 and the 2008 Great Recession. Looking back, I think this generation was not at all conservative, in fact, it was worse than the Boomers. The Boomers gave us the sexual revolution, the Civil Rights movement, feminist revolution, the antiwar protests and drugs on campuses. Instead of reversing this downward trajectory, the GenXers only further extended it by being even more decadent with sex, harder drugs, cruder lyrics in pop/rap music. Worse, they are a lot more materialistic, money worshiping and decadent than the Boomers.

    The Millennial generation was raised by the Boomer generation, not only did they continue down the rabbit hole with drug, sex and rap mania passed on by GenX, but they’ve been thoroughly brainwashed to not only accept but cheer on mass immigration. The only difference between them and GenX is, they’ve reverted back to the Boomers’ communist/socialist roots as GenX continues to hog all the wealth.

    GenZ is raised by GenX. Judging by what happened with GenX, I’d say there is little hope that they will turn things around. More likely they’ll be even more decadent than the Millennials with all the gender ideology, mental health crisis, drugs, transmania, even more mindless and explicit music lyrics and movie contents. The only difference here is they might revert back to GenX’s materialism and love of \$ — everyone wants to be a billionaire, and they don’t care if they have to sell their soul to get there, as long as they get there. There will be more fraud, theft, corruption, hacking.

    I think America is on a downward spiral, unless the GenXers wake up, acknowledge their own role in accelerating America’s downward spiral, ditch materialism for religiosity and asceticism, and start fighting to take back their children’s education.

    • Replies: @Prester John
  21. KenH says:

    McAullife is a lying left wing scumbag. Is there any other kind?

    Glenn Youngkin seems like a generic, race neutral and cucky kind of Republican but he’s run a pretty good campaign and he isn’t a mean tweeter so he’s not making the moderates or wine and cheese conservatives clutch their pearls.

    I’m just glad the GOP didn’t decide to run Candace Owens or some other magic negro/black savior type as governor of Virginia. If they did they would get shellacked almost as hard as Larry Elder did in California.

    “We don’t have time to be wasting on these phony, trumped-up culture wars,” said Obama during a campaign stop for McAuliffe.

    Says the half breed who gave us a phony and trumped up war on black males by the police during his time in office that we’re still dealing with. And which has led to several race riots.

    But that’s what white hating communists do. They lie about events then pour gasoline on the fires they created until there’s a raging inferno.

    • Replies: @anon
  22. anon[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Pat. I spose you’re too old to get your head around this concept now. While you’re obsessing about your country – an abstraction like the square root of negative 3 or transuent causation or the objective correlative – the real question goes so far over your head that you don’t even hear the whistle.

    Your country – which you couldn’t define if your life depended on it – is neither here nor there. It’s your state that matters. And your state is shit. You live in a kleptocracy propped up by a police state, which pits synthetic factions against each other to channel the resentment of the subject population. The latest such trick is taking sides for or against dead guys. No one gives a rat’s ass about that nonsense. It takes Reisberg 5 or adolescent pseudo-stupidity for shit like that to get someone wound up.

    Your old boss understood the problem. To keep from getting shot like JFK he called it “the whole Bay of Pigs thing.” CIA runs your country, however you define it, with impunity for arbitrary conduct. Until you fix that, your country is a helpless brainwashed mass.

    Keep giving Boy’s State speeches about CIA-designated controversies and you will die irrelevant, having accomplished jack shit all your earnest useless life. Are you with Dick Nixon and JFK, or are you bending over for a Langley light stick up your ass?

    What’s the point of you? You don’t have much time to decide.

  23. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve never met a teacher, as a student or outside the educational system, in the Chicago public school system who wasn’t kind of dumb, mediocre, follower of leftist ideologies, taking psychiatric medications or just plain strange. Everyone knows education degrees are the easiest to get which is why the dumbest students opt for it. The entire educational establishment at the upper echelon is made up of leftists who consider indoctrination to be the number one goal, not imparting knowledge or ability to think critically. They’ve gotten by all these years because parents have generally been too trusting and didn’t screen what was really going on in school. It’s just that things have gotten extreme so things have caught people’s attention. You can see the high-handed, condescending attitude of people like Obama who display their hatred of everyday people in America. A money pit, the entire educational establishment should be revamped and purged.

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  24. anon[125] • Disclaimer says:

    The left has always been about power, while the right is all about money. But in the last century, since a certain tribe started arriving in large numbers, the elites of both sides have gradually converged as each side uses one to acquire the other, i.e. the elite right uses money to acquire power, while the elite left uses power to acquire money. So now, the elites of both sides have all the money and all the power, while we ordinary Joe’s are left with neither. Meanwhile, as they own all the media, social media, academia and publishing industry, they are great at giving us the illusion that there is still a right and a left, by periodically throwing us some red meat like LGBTQ mania, abortion, gun control, BLM to keep us fighting.

    And it doesn’t matter much who we vote for, no matter which side is in the white house or runs Congress or SCOTUS, the same group of (((elites))) control these people like puppets and pull all the strings. The only thing the elites want are endless wars and endless immigration, because both are good for business and for getting more votes.

    As Mark Twain once said, if voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.

    • Replies: @Prester John
  25. @Vinnie O

    Hey! I think I’m FAMOUS!!! It appears that Unz now believes that I’m such a threat to Civilization that EVERY ONE of my Comments gets reviewed by a Dedicated Overseer.

    Could also just be that everyone thinks you’re an asshole. They do seem to flock to Buchanan articles for some reason.

  26. Athena says:

    “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man” is a saying attributed to the Jesuits’ founder St. Ignatius of Loyola.

    These schools are helping shape what children come to believe about the moral, social and historical issues tearing our country apart. These schools are helping shape the men and women these children will become.

    Debunking Anti-Chinese Psy Ops: Jesuits, Tavistock and the Battle for the Soul of China
    (exerpts, with emphasis added)
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/debunking-anti-chinese-psy-ops-jesuits-tavistock-battle-soul-china/5758963

    ”Just as Ignatius Loyola’s meditations featured a self-hypnotic mantra that induced the practitioner into believing white is black if god willed it be so believed (2), Russell’s extension of this same mantra was elaborated upon in his 1953 Science and Society where he called for teams of psychiatrists to see how much it would cost to convince young people that snow is black writing:

    “It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment…

    Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive. Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten. Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid taste for eccentricity. It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark gray.”

    The Foundation for the Eternal Feminine

    Without going into great depth, I invite the reader to review the multi billion-dollar Foundation of the Eternal Feminine founded in 2015 by systems analysis guru David Hawk (protégé of Tavistock’s Eric Trist). This strange Beijing/US-based foundation professes to shape a new generation of Chinese Joan of Arcs among the billionaire heiresses of China who represent a surprisingly large quotient of China’s young elite due to the post 1979 one China policy undertaken by Malthusian followers of the Club of Rome associated with Zhao Ziyang.”

  27. anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    Who is paying the bills?

  28. Naturally, everyone who thinks that parents don’t deserve to have a say in what is taught would change their minds instantly if the schools were teaching things they didn’t like.

  29. @anon

    At bare minimum this country needs a viable third party. What we have now is two sides of the same coin. But it won’t happen in my lifetime. If there is one thing with which the two major parties agree it’s that they won’t let anyone else in their playpen.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  30. @anon

    The US, along with the rest of what we used to call “Western Civilization” is in the “decadent” phase described by the late historian, Jacques Barzun, in his magnum opus “From Dawn to Decadence.” The emergence of various diseases (AIDS, Covid etc) is a symptom, along with all the other symptoms you’ve described (money worship, gender ideology, mental health issues etc.). The likelihood is that it’ll be a long, LONG descent. What will finally emerge from all this is anyone’s guess. A second Renaissance? Maybe. Who knows- other than The God That No One Believes In anymore of course.

  31. PJ London says:
    @Thomasina

    It is the “Delphic” method of controlling the agenda and getting nominal justification for social changes. (trying to find confirmation of name on Google is fraught with frustration, Google no longer brings results for anything which does not agree with ‘good government, bad individuals’)
    They are trained and you are not.
    You cannot win whilst agreeing to their methodology.
    If you want change you have to go door to door and start a different group then challenge them in the ballots and in the courts.
    Which is when the DoJ will call you a Domestic terrorist and destroy you and your family.

  32. PJ London says:

    The Rockefeller’s General Education Board proudly announced in its 1906 “Occasional letter number 1” that;

    “In our dreams…people yield themselves with perfect docility to our moulding hands. The present educational conventions [intellectual and character education]…
    We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or men of science.
    We have not to raise up from among them authors, educators, poets or men of letters.
    We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians, nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we have ample supply.”

    “There’s a reason that education sucks, and it’s the same reason it will never ever be fixed. It’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it. Be happy with what you’ve got. Because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talking about the real owners now, the big, wealthy, business interests that control all things and make the big decisions. Forget the politicians, they’re irrelevant.
    Politicians are put there to give you that idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations, and they’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the State Houses, and the City Halls. They’ve got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear. They’ve got you by the balls.
    They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I’ll tell you what they don’t want—they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interest. You know something, they don’t want people that are smart enough to sit around their kitchen table and figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.” –
    George Carlin

  33. @anonymous

    The bad teacher problem is caused by a mix of the women’s movement and cheap anti-union Republicans. Until the mid to late 1970s most talented women because school teachers because: (1) other fields were largely closed to them; (2) it was a relatively portable career and they could switch jobs if there husband who worked for a large corporation was transferred; (3) it was an easy field to leave and re-enter. They could teach. Quite and have babies. Then return to teaching when their kids reached high school age; (4) their salary was “surplus” to the family they were not the primary bread winner so they did not mind low pay. Indeed, as late as the 1970s school districts would pay married male teachers more than female teachers because they reasoned the men had families to support. Things changed in the late 70s and 80s. More jobs opened to women so the quality of teachers declined tremendously. Republicans, however, who oppose teachers unions (because they viscerally oppose all unions) refused to let schools pay market competitive wages to attract good people to teaching. The public at large misunderstood why we were blessed by great teachers–the reality being that there were not many other places smart educated women could get jobs. Schools are blighted today because we fail to pay market competitive wages to teachers.

  34. @Max Maxwell

    You said “The left has always been about power, while the right is all about money …”

    Conservatives have the same impulse. Conservatives oppose universal health care or a basic universal income because they want to force people to work for sub-living wages. Conservatives gave us prohibition. That failed, but conservatives resurrected that with the wars on drugs (which were often rooted in racism). Conservatives made sex work illegal. For many years, conservatives banned gambling. Conservatives for many years backed Sunday blue laws, until the big business types strong armed the religious types into giving up blue laws. Conservatives want prayer in schools. Conservatives want to ban strip clubs and censor pornography. When it comes to social control, conservatives have the liberals beat coming and going.

  35. The problem with saying parents should control what schools teach is that no one is willing to discuss which parents. Should Muslim parents control schools? Should Jewish parents control schools? Should Baptist parents control schools? Should Catholic parents control schools? What about parents who are guilty of felonies? Should undocumented alien parents control education?

    What the controversy in Virginia is really about is that racist parents do not like Virginia schools teaching about structural racism or about the history of racism in the US. Kids learn to be racist at home from their parents. They are not learning to be racist watching television. They are not learning to be racist playing video games. Parents move to segregated neighborhoods. White parents do not socialize with black people. White parents who go to church (they are a dwindling group) do not attend churches with people of other races.

    Racist parents do not like schools teaching children to see their parents own racism. That is the problem.

    • Troll: Automatic Slim
  36. Mac_ says:

    The article title question, answer is those who have the most and biggest weapons, the state.
    also, the hoards who reproduced who don’t care. they also decide, by not deciding, so by them ignoring, that share of opinion is defaulted, handed to state, which is why people are wearing masks for no reason. The state relies on people who don’t care. The go alongs, who don’t decide but actually do, by not deciding, take others down with them. Or maybe those who know things need to try more to inform go alongs, or, give them a boot, whichever. Of course there is military, drones etc, but for a long time that was the big problem and yet is now, are those who go along. After all, how did so-called skools get any track to begin with. Force. and because of go alongs. Now they have more weapons, because state, and so they are telling more people what to do, including kids. So there’s some sort of answer. The state, and skool board gangs, and a few con teachers here or there, also keep the herds moving in the planned direction, the go alongs.

  37. @G. Poulin

    The Constitution died when Lee surrendered his army at Appomattox.

  38. @Harry Huntington

    You cannot fix the unfixable. The way I see it, the answer is hiding in plain sight: one nation under one God, one language, one religion, no child mutilation, no racism, total assimilation of all ethnicities into one superentity: the American People. There is no alternative.

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  39. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    It pains me to say it, but the gun-toting, militia crowd fall in the same category – all swagger and all mouth with no ass to back either.

  40. Doris says:

    Rutgers University Professor Brittney Cooper:

    ‘We got to take white people out’: Rutgers University professor, 41, calls white people ‘villains’, says ‘Critical Race Theory is just the proper teaching of American history’ and praises dwindling white birth rates in online discussion

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10143199/NJ-professor-says-got-motherf-s-talking-white-people.html

    [MORE]

    A New Jersey professor said that ‘we got to take White people out’ during a discussion on the national backlash on Critical Race Theory.

    Brittney Cooper, 41, a professor at Rutgers University, made the shocking comment during an online discussion with The Root’s Michael Harriot titled Unpacking The Attacks On Critical Race Theory on September 21.

    She started by saying on the topic: ‘Kids actually can grasp Critical Race Theory because the issue that the right has, is that Critical Race Theory is just the proper teaching of American history.’

    She said the accurate portrayal of history was the white people ‘didn’t discover America’ because there were already indigenous people and that they had ‘committed acts of violence in order to make yourselves seem superior.’

    Cooper added: ‘It’s not that white people don’t know what they have done,’ presumably referencing slavery, which was abolished in 1865 after a nearly 300-year-long stint of being legal.

    ‘They fear that there is no other way to be human than the way in which they are human’ noting that whenever she speaks to a white person they write off ‘all of this power’ as merely a part of ‘human nature’.

    Cooper continued: ‘They do this thing where they say that how white people have done humanity – how they have acted as human beings – is the way all of us act. So they think black people are going to get them back.

    ‘And I wouldn’t be mad at the black people who want to get them back but what I believe about black people is that we have seen what a sh** show this iteration of treatment of other human beings means. And my hope is that we would do it differently in the moments when we have some power.’

    During Cooper’s response Harriot was seen nodding his head in agreement before asking the Rutgers professor what she thinks the other options are.

    He provided the options as ‘they’ – presumably lumping all white people together – ‘coming around to the majority of human beings on the planet’s way of thinking’ or ‘they say f*** that’ because they don’t want to relinquish said ‘power’.

    Cooper candidly responded: ‘The thing I want to say to you is, “We got to take these motherf*****s out,” but like we can’t say that,’ before noting that she ‘doesn’t believe in a project of violence’.

    She shared that she also ‘thinks that white people are committed to being villains in the aggregate’.

    She added that whiteness ‘totally skews our view of everything’ and cited a TED Talk she did on the topic back in 2016 titled The Racial Politics Of Time. According to a synopsis the speech ‘broke down the subject of racism and its passage through the history of America’.

    Cooper – a graduate of Howard University in Washington, DC – went on to elaborate on ‘white colonialism’ and said it is her job to help ‘get to the other side of this very inconvenient apoca(lyptic)-interruption of black and indigenous world-making’.

    She then asked: ‘Does that give people comfort on the day-to-day when you’re just having to deal with white folks and the travesties that they create in the sense that they want to destroy the planet?’

    ‘Nah,’ Cooper said in response to her own question.

    ‘Despite what white people think of themselves they do not define the laws of eternity,’ she added when theorizing about when whiteness, which she called an ‘inconvenient interruption’ in history, will end.

    ‘Their projects are not so sophisticated’ she added, noting that she ‘showed up’ in this point of history ‘precisely so that we could help to figure out an end and a way to the other side of this gargantuan historical tragedy that is white supremacy’.

    The Root Institute’s description of the conversation called it ‘a healthy dose of reality’.
    ================================================================

  41. voicum says:
    @Vinnie O

    Maybe they are worried about your imbecile comment. Nobody is against learning writing and reading or arithmetic….

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
  42. @matzahballsgonewrong

    The way I see it, the answer is hiding in plain sight: one nation under one God, one language, one religion, no child mutilation, no racism, total assimilation of all ethnicities into one superentity

    Whose God? The Muslim God? The Jewish God? The Baptist God? The ELCA Lutheran God? The Roman Catholic God? The Hindu God? The Mormon God?

    I am sure I left a few out. America’s problem is rooted in its founding. Many of the Founders or their parents were religious heretics or apostates. Numerous among them were deists. America at its founding elided the question of which God by pretending that was not a problem. America today suffers from the problem that citizens do not share a faith. That problem only grows worse through time. Voters in Virginia are choosing between a Godless private equity manager who would outsource everything to China if given his way. Or they have the used car salesman, Clinton crony, who doesn’t care much about anyone’s church or God. Saying give parents control over schools means zero if those parents pray to the wrong God.

    • Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong
  43. @Prester John

    You’re dead wrong.

    What the country needs is to get rid of the two parties that currently control the theater known as elections.

    As an anarchist, I don’t believe in gov’t at all, but if I wanted to have a fair voting system it could easily be done without political parties and done almost over night.

    Allow the major Internet retailers to sell a set of products known as “Joe Biden” and “Donald Trump” for \$1, for example. Allow the public to make their purchase. The credit card companies are now the tallying organizations and the monthly statement is the voter’s receipt for who he/she picked. Duplicate votes are easily identified by computer software and can send the corrupt voter their court date as part of their monthly statement.

    No one has to go anywhere to vote, there are no paper ballots, no back room deals, no political party needed at all.

    Now, for candidate selection, again, use the Internet. Let anyone become a candidate. They can put up a blog of their position on everything they want to expose, the only restriction is that they must do it without any mention of their identity, sex, religion, age, wealth, etc and they must write their material in a proctored environment where no notes or help from anyone or anything is available to them. Each candidate gets a handle and the voters vote for that handle. Only on election day do the voters get to see the person they voted for.

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  44. @Harry Huntington

    I’ve read several of your posts on this page and I can see you’re one that wants to control what other people do with a left wing bent.

    Unions should be against the law since there are laws against extortion. That’s what unions are – legalized extortion.

    As far as education is concerned, there should be no public schools, only private for profit schools. Those schools should select teachers based on merit and parents can bankrupt any school that isn’t doing a good job. No school boards needed and competition will define a proper price for service.

    The solution to your made up quandary is simple – stick to the basics of reading writing and arithmetic and avoid the bullshit of political history, art, music, philosophy and all the other subjects that are primarily opinion.

    It is the teaching of things that aren’t true that creates the problems later on. The humanities and social sciences need to be identified as the opinions of their priests and their practitioners labeled as propagandists by trying to convince people that their opinions are truth itself.

    • Agree: Realist
  45. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    Merle Haggard’s….“When you’re running down my country, you’re walking on the fighting side of me.”

    Merle was a complex hombre.

    Most folks think he was a war-mongering redneck. In reality, he was anti-war.

    He also defended Obama…but then no one’s perfect. (<:)

    If Zionist whore-for-war ("Israel uber alles!") hebe-harridan/scheiss-eater Debbie Schlussel hated him, Merle must have been quite honorable, indeed.

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/82048/merle-haggard-no-tears-for-anti-war-anti-troops-leftist-obama-fan-buh-bye/

  46. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vinnie O

    Requirements for ANY organized Instruction START with DISCOVERING the Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities that a Student….needs to demonstrate to… advance to the NEXT set of Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities.

    I’m not sure if the proper response to your truism is “Thanks, Captain Obvious!” or “No shite, Shakespeare!”

    Despite your “Capitalization Tourette’s” (or maybe because of it?), you ignore the elephant in the room: what is the END GOAL of the prescribed steps?

    If you want to create a nation of docile-compliant NPCs, you’d teach CRT at younger and younger ages. That’s what Leftist schoolboards have been doing for decades. Covid Hysteria inadvertently revealed their plans to parents. YOU seem to think parents should continue grabbing their own ankles, letting schoolboards continue giving it to them and their kids “good and hard.”

    Both Hitler Youth and Boy Scouts had levels that needed to be “tick-marked” to attain the highest ranks (Reichsjugendführer and Eagle Scout). What was the endgame/goal of each group? What if “Good German” parents had stood up and protested their children being indoctrinated into Nazism?

    Finally, what do current U.S. schoolboards consider “good citizens”? What do parents?

  47. @Harry Huntington

    The God of the Founding Fathers, if this means anything to you or anybody else. One can worship a flying saucer, a tree or an Unicorn. Let them do that in their basements. The current religious freedom is the rotten core of our society, our religious freedom devolved into confusion and immorality at every level of it. A person who worships a tree thump has a a different set of moral principles than a Christian usw. which throws us in a perpetual state ofconflict. Are we so stupid to pursue this indefinitely? Our politicians, academics, doctors, teachers, everyone down to the part-time library worker are all confused. Do you have a solution to solve this problem?

    • Replies: @raga10
  48. @RoatanBill

    My take on what constitutes a “government” is different. First of all there are no political partys whatsoever. Verboten! Not ever! People are selected purely by lottery. You have a job to do, two years, get your ass in there and get it done and then you’re out. One and done. And you or your family are forever more forbidden from ever having office ever again. You’re simply a manager of resources and you’re not there to argue your parties particular prejudices. No pensions, no special perks, just enough to cover the basic expenses with a provided apartment and nothing else. You don’t want anyone who desires to be there as a career. You’re there to “sacrifice” yourself for the greater good. Same goes for the staff or anyone else. There is no political or beaurocratic class. To eliminate these ticks who burrow into the body of society you have to check and mate every inclination or ability to acquire power. Oh, and another thing, you try and change the system, which seeks to be as small and unobtrusive as can be, its an instant death sentence.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  49. @InnerCynic

    Do you really want Phelopia and Testicleeze to get into office via them winning your proposed lottery?

    If people are determined to be slaves to government, at least put people in place that know something about how systems should operate. If gov’t “service” is to be considered a job, then shouldn’t there be a job interview to determine if a given person has the smarts and outlook required to even be considered? That’s why I offered up the idea that candidates for office write up their vision on given topics and do so on their own so that they’re not just some mouth piece for a hidden cabal.

    The problem in the US is that a huge portion of the elected are lawyers that haven’t a clue how the real world works. China chooses mostly engineers and scientists that, by training, understand physical reality and can’t be swayed by some bullshit about CO2, how solar and wind are going to save the world, etc. They also know how to balance a check book unlike the congress critters that only know how to spend without ever worrying about how to pay for anything.

    I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the genuine principles of its Constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the federal government the power of borrowing.
    Thomas Jefferson

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  50. The conservatives are pathetic. Except for football, the skoolz are a complete disaster. Yet the best that the conservatives can come up with are:

    • No CRT!
    • Testing.
    • Just say No!
    • Accountability.
    • Observe Veteran’s Day.
    • No sekz ed for 1st graders!
    • The Pledge of Allegiance.
    • A moment of silence.

    I don’t want the skoolz to teach (babysit) CRT.
    I don’t want them to teach the 3Rs.
    I want them to die.

    I want all education regulations, bureaucracies, etc. to be abolished. Then, almost overnight, a competent, competitive, 100% private education services sector will emerge. For all tastes and pricepoints.

    This is all so obvious. The only reason why this country didn’t move to the fully privatized model eons ago is simply because both parties have been leeching off the system — now entrenched to the tune of roughly \$1T per year — since it all started.

  51. @anon

    Changing the way public school unions think, will fail. Only my personal belief. They have become so powerful, that in order to defeat them would require millions of parents to keep protesting these school boards every week for years. I doubt the typical American parent is up to the task. They are distracted by so many things—new cars, movies, going to malls, playing paint ball warrior, on the weekends, etc.etc. I sincerely hope that I’m totally wrong but knowing the determination of these communists, I doubt it. One possibility that might work if parents can spend a few minutes each day, is DEMANDING that all school classes taught each and every day be recorded and made available to the parents, EACH AND EVERY DAY. These people can not be trusted with a dirty pair of socks.

  52. @RoatanBill

    The problem with government as we’ve always had it is that the worst are drawn to the levers of power. The last thing I want is a class of parasites that fulfill their evil desires by getting what they want at the expense of everyone else. You could limit said lottery to a particular IQ level and those without moral terpitude. We have today a behemoth that is far and beyond anything necessary. Its as big and as intrusive as it is today because the parasites want it so. As always. Its difficult for Americans today to wrap their noggins around anything different than what they’ve been inculcated into believing is “the way things are”. Thats by design. You have to toss out the belief that what we’ve been shackled with for over two hundred years deserves to continue living. Sometimes you just have to come to grips with the fact that you’re a prisoner to a vampire and its long past time to drive a stake through its evil heart

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  53. @InnerCynic

    In my comment that you originally replied to I stated categorically that I’m an anarchist. Anarchism – rules but no rulers, and the rules amount to the non aggression principal.

    I hinted at a solution for the idiocy of voting for your slave master. I don’t vote. I wouldn’t vote even in the system I described because I don’t believe in the legitimacy of government.

    If I have no moral authority to come to your house and demand money from you, and if you neighbors have no moral authority to come to your house and demand money from you, and if all the people of the country have no moral authority to come to your house and demand money from you, then how does the gov’t gain that authority? The short answer is that government has no such authority.

    Government has no authority to make laws. Government has no authority to instigate wars. Government has no authority to exist because the population can’t grant to it that which they themselves do not possess. Government is simply the euphemism used to refer to the largest criminal organization in a given geographic area, nothing more.

    I don’t want to fix government. I want to end it because I want to end the primary source of criminality that impinges upon my life. Government IS the criminal organization it pretends to protect the population from.

  54. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    I’m just glad the GOP didn’t decide to run Candace Owens or some other magic negro/black savior type as governor of Virginia. If they did they would get shellacked almost as hard as Larry Elder did in California.

    That whole California recall farce was trumped up by liberal and conservative Jews to force the hands of Gavin Newsome. They wanted him to veto the new cultural diversity curriculum that Jews thought were “anti-Semitic” because it didn’t include enough about the suffering of the Jews and the Holocaust, and too much on the suffering of the Palestinians. Larry Elder was put up by RINOs and Ziocons and approved by AIPAC because they knew he was not a real threat, even though Jew media talked it up like he did. Newsome won the recall 62% to 38%. Nevertheless he was led to believe he was facing a real threat and had to ask for Jew money to fight the recall, so he was forced to veto the Cultural Diversity Curriculum bill and sign a new one that was approved by his Jew masters.

  55. raga10 says:
    @matzahballsgonewrong

    Do you have a solution to solve this problem?

    Solution is obvious: abolish ALL religions.

    • Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong
  56. @raga10

    I am all in, but let’s start with the most depraved ones, like Judaism, which is technically not even a religion but a form of ideological warfare, just like Islam, hell-bent on world domination. Christianity has played his role in evolution, but devolved into its opposite.

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