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After the Great Pandemic has passed and we emerge from Great Depression II, what will be America’s mission in the world?

What will be America’s cause?

We have been at such a turning point before.

After World War II, Americans wanted to come home. But we put aside our nation-building to face the challenge of a malevolent Stalinist empire dominant from the Elbe river to the Barents Sea.

And after persevering for four decades, we prevailed.

What, then, did we do with our epochal victory?

We alienated Russia by moving our NATO military alliance into the Baltic and Black Seas. We launched bloody, costly crusades for democracy in the Middle East that, invariably, failed. We exported a huge slice of our manufacturing capacity and economic independence to a coddled China.

Historically, blunders of such magnitude have undone great powers.

Even before COVID-19, Americans had begun to realize the folly of decades of mindless interventionism over matters irrelevant to our vital interests. “Unsustainable” was the word commonly associated with our foreign policy.

But if our foreign policy was unsustainable during President Trump’s economic boom, with unemployment at record lows and a bull market to rival the Roaring ’20s, can an interventionist foreign policy be sustained after the losses of this major depression we have induced to kill the pandemic?

If the Democrats win in November, we know their priorities: national health insurance, carbon taxes, the Green New Deal, open borders, amnesty, reparations and wealth redistribution to reduce social and economic inequality — an agenda costing trillions of dollars.

And Democrats will be looking at the defense budget as a slush fund to finance this new progressive era.

If the Republicans win, given the influence of hawks and neocons among the party elite, interventionism may get another run in the yard.

Having been exposed as naive beyond belief for their indulgence of China from the Bush I days to 2016, some Republicans are looking to make amends by casting China in the Soviet role in Cold War II.

There is talk on Capitol Hill of refusing to pay off U.S. bonds that Beijing holds and of suing China for the damages done by the coronavirus, as China failed to alert the world the pathogen was loose.

Americans should think long and hard before defaulting on U.S. government debt and consider the consequences if we open a door to claims against sovereign nations for past sins.

Iraq was invaded in 2003 to force it to give up illicit weapons of mass destruction it did not have. Baghdad could have a case in international court against America for the unprovoked war waged against that country.

While the U.S. appears determined to bring back manufacturing — especially of products critical to the health, safety and defense of our nation — there seems to be no stomach among the public for a war with China.

But again, with the democracy crusades now repudiated, what is America’s cause, what is America’s mission in the world?

Preventing climate change, say our liberal elites. Yet, even before the pandemic, global warming ranked near the bottom of national concerns.

The situation in which America will find herself after the virus passes and depression lifts will be almost unprecedented.

We will have the same treaty obligations to go to war on behalf of dozens of nations in Europe and Asia and at the same time, we will be running deficits on the order of $3 trillion a year with a shrunken economic base.

If Trump wins, borders will be tightened. The U.S. withdrawal from the Mideast will continue. U.S. manufacturing will begin to be repatriated. Transnational institutions will be downgraded, ignored and superseded.

The watchword will be what it has lately been: “America First.”

In a second Trump presidency, there would likely be even less concern for how other nations rule themselves.

Does it matter to us if Russia is led by an autocrat not unlike a Romanov czar, that Hindu nationalism wields the whip hand in India or that Hungarians have rejected Earl Warren’s ideas about liberal democracy?

In recent decades, the U.N. General Assembly has seemed to resemble the bar scene in “Star Wars.” But is how other nations choose to rule themselves any business of ours, if those nations do not threaten us?

In the 19th century, when the Hungarians had risen up against the Hapsburg Empire and sought U.S. intervention, Henry Clay opposed it:

ORDER IT NOW

“Far better is it for ourselves … and for the cause of liberty … that we should keep our lamp burning brightly on this western shore, as a light to all nations, than to hazard its utter extinction amid the ruins of falling or fallen republics in Europe.”

Not only President Trump’s preferences but also events seem to be driving us toward such a destiny.

To borrow from the title of historian Walter A. McDougall’s classic work, America’s future is as a promised land, not a crusader state.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. KenH says:

    If Trump wins, borders will be tightened.

    Really? Trump has said on numerous occasions he wants a deal to allow DACA recipients to stay in the country and on the legal immigration side of the ledger it’s business as usual x 2 as the Trump administration has been seeking across the board increases in work visas and treasonous bastards like Lindsey Graham is seeking a massive increase in EB-5 visas from 10K to 75K.

    Trump can build all the bollard fencing he wants but the Trojan horse in the form of 20-30 million illegal aliens and visa overstayers and “legal” immigrants who are nothing but colonists for their native countries have been inside the gates for a long time and aren’t going anywhere.

    • Agree: Realist, Felix Krull
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @Wally
  2. Hubbub says:

    If only your predictions come true, Pat, if only…

  3. @KenH

    Not with Miss Lindsey and President Kushner at the helm.

  4. Our new cause should be to stop All immigration from nonWhite countries, and deport as many nonWhites as possible; especially the Mexicans and Blacks. But really that’s just a start. Our new cause should be to then make the U.S. at least 90 percent White again. It’s that or oblivion.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Corvinus
  5. lomshek says:

    Mr. Buchanan:

    You’re still “got it”! It’s sorry we never followed the advice of Henry Clay. Unless a nation (s) is a verified military threat to our nation; stay away from military confrontation expansionist behavior.

    Concentrate on honest/fair trade; produce competitive quality products at a fair price and reap the good will and profits.

    Dave L.

  6. Exile says:

    Asking what “America’s mission” is begs the question of whether there’s an “America” in the first place.

    As Pat often points out in his more objective, less sentimental pieces, there is no longer an American nation, identity or sense of common interest or purpose.

    Those of us who are receptive to Pat’s basic message constitute an almost-entirely White minority in a nominally American geo-economic zone that will never be “made great” or even made whole again.

    Many of us see our “mission” as post-American, building what comes next.

    Pat’s not to be blamed for clinging to the past glory of fading America at his age and given his history. Many of his ideas will live on in our post-American societies, but we’re not rallying around Old Glory anymore.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  7. DB Cooper says:

    I propose rallying the international community and build a coalition to kick India out of Sikkim (India annexed Sikkim fifteen years before Iraq annexed Kuwait) the way the US kicked Iraq out of Kuwait. I don’t see any downside to it. There will not be a single country oppose to the idea. India’s smaller neighbors certainly would be more than happy because they have enough of the bully. America will once again lead the world and be a force for good. There won’t be cynical accusation of the US because Sikkim does not have oil. The US will be rejuvenated the way the first Gulf war rejuvenated a demoralized America after the Vietnam war. This will also stop the infestation of America’s H1B bullshit artists from India for good.

    Queen Hope Cooke is still alive and lives in New York. I am sure she will be more than happy to do whatever she can to restore the kingdom’s independence.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Cooke

  8. PaulT says:

    “After World War II, Americans wanted to come home.”

    Americans may have wanted to come home, but America’s ruling class saw its imperialism bestride the world like a colossus. Competitors were in tatters.

  9. PaulT says:

    “We launched bloody, costly crusades for democracy in the Middle East that, invariably, failed.”

    The U.S. is interested in democracy in the oil-rich Middle East? lol

  10. PaulT says:

    “President Trump’s [deficit and debt fueled] economic boom”

    • Replies: @Derer
  11. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @PaulT

    And note the “We,” Mr. Buchanan’s pronoun propaganda to conflate the people with their rulers, an important distinction drawn in your preceding comment.

    His dwindling fans romanticize “Mr. Paleoconservative,” selectively remembering some of his political campaign themes. But who’s to say he would have been any more effective or sincere than the GOP guy he’s shamelessly shilling for now?

    Monday, Thursday, Monday, Thursday, all the same predictable length and takes. Even when Mr. Buchanan writes a column with some truths, there’s always something for the Establishment. Putin is an “autocrat,” the dempanic is the fault of “coddled China,” etc., keeping his beloved Cold War going and reassuring readers that Uncle Sam is the good guy, whose imperialism would be fine if “we” could afford it. That, and cheerleading for Team Red in the next Most Important Election Ever to keep the sheep voting, are what this Beltway columnist does, Right on schedule.

    • Replies: @Derer
    , @Anonymous
    , @Rurik
  12. @PaulT

    Yes, & another LOL moment from Pat:
    “If the Democrats win in November, we know their priorities: national health insurance, carbon taxes, the Green New Deal, open borders, amnesty, reparations and wealth redistribution to reduce social and economic inequality — an agenda costing trillions of dollars.”
    Pat’s delusional. The Dem’s just destroyed the candidate who supported some of these issues. Does he actually think Biden would do anything progessive ? (maybe he’d open the sigot on legal/illegal immigration — not for any “progressive” reason, but for all his business mates.)

  13. Realist says:
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    Our new cause should be to stop All immigration from nonWhite countries, and deport as many nonWhites as possible; especially the Mexicans and Blacks.

    Agreed….that has always been my old cause.

    That will never happen by electoral means.

  14. Realist says:
    @DB Cooper

    I propose rallying the international community and build a coalition to kick India out of Sikkim (India annexed Sikkim fifteen years before Iraq annexed Kuwait) the way the US kicked Iraq out of Kuwait. I don’t see any downside to it.

    Another goddamn war for no legitimate reason…you don’t see a downside to it?

    There will not be a single country oppose to the idea.

    India comes to mind.

    India’s smaller neighbors certainly would be more than happy because they have enough of the bully.

    That’s too rich…and American calling another country a bully.

    America will once again lead the world and be a force for good.

    Nineteen forty-five called…they want their bullshit American propaganda meme back.

    Queen Hope Cooke is still alive and lives in New York. I am sure she will be more than happy to do whatever she can to restore the kingdom’s independence.

    You want to take control of Sikkim and give it to an American Queen?

    This is one of the goddamn stupidest comments I’ve read here in awhile…and that’s saying something.

    • Agree: Ozymandias
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @DB Cooper
  15. Svevlad says:

    America geopolitically simply doesn’t have the capability to have a foreign policy similar to today, that is sustainable. The distance involved is too much, it’s too isolated geographically to make it work

  16. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    I read the comment as tongue-in-cheek, a riff on the rationalizing of endless post-USSR wars beginning with Operation Desert Storm starring General Schwarzkopf.

    • Agree: Dutch Boy
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @dfordoom
  17. Preventing climate change, say our liberal elites. Yet, even before the pandemic, global warming ranked near the bottom of national concerns.

    Yeah, about that. Having realised that things like The Green New Deal were never going to fly because the world was only going to end in a decade or so, at least according to them, the elites seized upon a pandemic that is little, if at all, more dangerous than the worst pandemics we’ve had since WW2, which they convinced us will kill millions of us in the next three weeks, as an excuse to impose the mother of all carbon taxes in the form of a severe economic shutdown. They tipped their hand by trumpeting how good this has been for air and water quality all over the globe, suggesting the new paradigm of nobody going anywhere is the way for us to go forward into the brave new world. After a few months of this, the sheeple will be happy if they can just go in the park, much less to the carwash.

    So, Green New Deal: Done!

  18. Corvinus says:

    “…U.S. manufacturing will begin to be repatriated. Transnational institutions will be downgraded, ignored and superseded.”

    Buchanan’s favorite character from Disney is Jiminy Cricket. Wish upon a star, sir. Unless there are significant regulations put in place, which goes against Republican/Trump economic theory, it will be more of the same.

    https://www.rt.com/business/486246-us-firms-keep-production-china/

  19. Corvinus says:
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    “Our new cause should be to stop All immigration from nonWhite countries, and deport as many nonWhites as possible”

    That’s YOUR cause.

    “Our new cause should be to then make the U.S. at least 90 percent White again. It’s that or oblivion.”

    How many white offspring do you have? If you have eight or more in your brood, then you are doing your part. If not, you are contributing to the problem.

  20. PaulT says:

    “And Democrats will be looking at the defense budget as a slush fund to finance this new progressive era.”

    The “defense” budget is a slush fund — socialism for the rich.

  21. Realist says:
    @anonymous

    I read the comment as tongue-in-cheek, a riff on the rationalizing of endless post-USSR wars beginning with Operation Desert Storm starring General Schwarzkopf.

    Perhaps you’re right, but I didn’t read it that way.

  22. America doesn’t need a damn cause.

    What it needs to do is face the racial question once and for all.

    Our country is on a crash course because of race denial.

    We have spent billions on Democrat programs and yet they continue to blame White people and demand even more. There are no adults in the room asking why these programs haven’t worked.

    Conservatives aren’t any better. They are just as cowardly when it comes to race. They told us that California Hispanics were actually conservative and immigration was nothing to worry about. Well Democrats in California now have a supermajority. Good job guys.

  23. America’s mission is already drafted and ready for print, Mr. Buchanan. The Corporation of the United States of America is now tasked to proceed to the International Bankruptcy Court for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy due to obvious insolvency financially & morally in 2020.

    By the numbers America is literally toast as any sort of financial or social arbiter of world affairs from this point onwards. The new mandate for Americans writ large is to concede defeat at the hands of the ever incompetent financial bureaucrats that head up the US Treasury & Federal Reserve Fractional Banking System so that Americans can deal responsibly with the crimes against humanity that America’s political & Deep State leadership has foisted upon US taxpayers that are responsible for the crimes of state that have manifested to bring the world to this juncture of chaos worldwide.

    America’s mission is to be completely honest about the level of international criminality they have wrought upon an unwitting global world to date.

    Historically, America is merely a low level thugster functionary sovereign of half wits & political imbeciles educated in degree mills with zero talent or foresight into possible & probable futures.

    American taxpayers all owe the world reparations for the incessant destruction that Americans have destroyed the world economies & world populations with over the last half century.

    Engaging in psychological projections of where America will be heading into the next few decades must reliably contain the reality of a world that rejects the false so-called ‘supremacy’ of anything American and especially anything that is politically expedient when it comes to sovereign obfuscation around the matter of liability for the bioterrorism that the CIA inflicted upon a previously thought of business partner at the international level of business & commerce.

    America is a schoolyard bully that has finally been outed and is slated to be beaten up after school for the overarching abuse overextended over decades upon decades of malevolence towards human beings.

    Let America be cast into perdition for their crimes against humanity & civilization.

    That is America’s mission, Mr. Buchanan.

    RW

  24. TGD says:

    In order for the USA to rebuild the large chunk of manufacturing that has been lost to foreign countries, we would need an “industrial policy” since we’ve forgotten how to make things. We couldn’t just open up shuttered factories. But such a policy would remind politicians of the “central planning” of the former communist countries. And to people of Pat’s ilk, that’s a no-no.

    Below is pictured the former Budd complex in Philadelphia. Budd was the last American company producing railroad passenger cars, subway cars and integrated train sets. Budd closed this site in 1986. All buildings have been torn down.

    • Replies: @Old Guy
  25. Not again says:

    Cause. Cause my butt got prolapsed somehow. Is there a crank on Buchanan’s back that you wind up so he says the same out-of-it patriotic brain farts over and over?

    The cause is breaking up this shithole you keep calling america. It’s got to be broken into minimum six or eight grown-up countries with no nukes. And release pneumonic ebola to wipe out Washington to New York, that part’s irredeemable. And plow plutonium into the soil to keep it from re-emerging there.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  26. Derer says:

    Good article from Pat Buchanan.
    If Democrats win the presidency, they would be elected on the Obama’s resume:
    (excerpt)
    – I have borrowed in 8 years 8 trillions $, while 43 presidents over 220 years have borrowed 12 trillions $. I am a better spender.
    – Addendum: I have nothing to show for that excellent banking activity.

    If Trump is elected his resume will include:
    (excerpt)
    – Repeat of the inaugural (actually a lie) from 2016 where he promised to not interfere in other countries affairs and will close few costly military bases around the world, serving absolutely no purpose.
    – Addendum: He sent more military personnel to Poland, Syria, Iraq. Taliban in Afghanistan will be back in power. America placed in world birth mortality 63rd – one place better than Zimbabwe.

    US political duopoly leaves not many choices, actually only two. A political duopoly is one step from a monopoly (or colluding duopoly) that we criticize in other countries.

  27. Derer says:
    @anonymous

    “Putin is an “autocrat,””

    Just to elaborate on Putin. Actually he is democratically elected president by a transparent (unlike American) election and according to the constitutional rules for two consecutive terms. Communists are the strongest opposition party in Russia. Those that want communists back in power are insane.

    Remember, Russians are voting according to the following principle: “We vote for a leader that is most criticized and slander by our enemies and adversaries. Vote almost never for their selected puppet.”

  28. “We launched bloody, costly crusades for democracy in the Middle East”

    The bullshit never ends, does it?

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  29. @Robert White

    Let America be cast into perdition for their crimes against humanity & civilization.

    “Ah! how cheerfully we consign ourselves to perdition!”
    Melville, Moby Dick

  30. All that’s left is bones.
    The oil god doomed proud Pequod,
    Down to Davy Jones.

  31. dfordoom says: • Website
    @DB Cooper

    I propose rallying the international community and build a coalition to kick India out of Sikkim (India annexed Sikkim fifteen years before Iraq annexed Kuwait) the way the US kicked Iraq out of Kuwait. I don’t see any downside to it

    No, no downside at all. It’s not like India is a nuclear power. Oh, wait…

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  32. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anonymous

    I read the comment as tongue-in-cheek, a riff on the rationalizing of endless post-USSR wars beginning with Operation Desert Storm starring General Schwarzkopf.

    It’s possible. These days satire is simply not possible.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  33. @Not again

    Mr. Buchanan often cheers on secession, but always in other countries. Yugoslavia, one-third the size of Texas, breaks up into 6 micro states, while the dreaded USSR disintegrates into 15 independent republics. American secessionists have existed ever since the signing of the Constitution. But tyrant Lincoln dashed all hope forever, showing the South that he had the power to kill them all if they refused to give up. Thus, as the socialist Pledge has beaten into our brains since kindergarten, we are “one nation,under God, indivisible.”

    Now, could the coronavirus hysteria finally lead to this financially and spiritually bankrupt Evil Empire’s long-needed break-up? One can only hope, but perhaps it is now or never. Once we are all vaccinated and micro chipped it will be too late.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  34. @Robert White

    I think it was Ron Paul who wrote that the FBI should be abolished, investigation of crime is not a federal matter.

    But it seems more important to abolish the CIA. Put them all on generous pensions for a few years but forbid them to communicate with each other or leave the country. Army help would be needed.

    Let each individual state manage its own counter-espionage.

    If NY had been managing its own security I think the 9/11 dancing Israelis would still be in a NY prison.

    So get rid of both the FBI and the CIA.

    • Replies: @Robert White
  35. DB Cooper says:
    @dfordoom

    India is so called nuclear bomb is a joke. When it was tested the seismic waves it generated and was recorded all over the world shows that it has very low yield. Plus India does not have the technology of minimizing (weaponizing) its nuclear warhead meaning it can’t be put in a missle. And India does not have any long range missile capable of reaching the US. India is a shithole. It can’t produce any weapons on its own and the weapon (like the tank, fighter..etc.) are piece of shit, just like the country itself. Kicking India out of Sikkim will be a walk in the park. The reason the shithole can bully its smaller neighbors is only because it has a ready supply of filthy smelly hungry rapey disease ridden third world turds that can overwhelming its smaller neighbors. This is how Sikkim got annexed.

    • Replies: @Piglet
  36. Derer says:
    @PaulT

    Interesting. On the other hand Obama’s 8 trillion debt (added to 12 trillion of previous 43 presidents debt) fueled ISIS.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  37. DB Cooper says:
    @Realist

    “Another goddamn war for no legitimate reason?”

    No legitmate reason? It is as illegitimate as Iraq annexed Kuwait.

    “India comes to mind.”

    And? India only has the pretension of a military. All of its weapons that is any good were all imported. The country can’t even produce its own bullets.

    “That’s too rich…and American calling another country a bully.”

    You don’t know India then. Did the US control Mexico’s foreign policy and forbade Mexico to have diplomatic relation with other country the US does not approve? Did the US meddle in Mexico’s own internal affairs in such a way that even the Mexico government building a highway within Mexico is the US business to approve or reject? Did the US land grab Mexico within the last twenty years?

    You should think outside the box. There is no downside to my proposal. The first Gulf war is a smashing success and it doesn’t even cost the US a penny. Saudi Arabia foot the bill. Building a coalition to kick the shithole out of Sikkim will once a again make the whole world rally behind the US and if done right it will cost the US nothing, just like the first gulf war.

  38. DB Cooper says:
    @dfordoom

    Operation Desert Storm is a smashing success. It is only the second gulf war that is a debacle.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  39. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Derer

    Are you still playing that yeah but Team Red is better than Team Blue thing?

    • Replies: @Derer
  40. @Bill Jones

    Along that same line, winning our independence from Israel strikes me as a worthy cause.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Derer
  41. Alfa158 says:

    I’m not as optimistic. The US lacks the social cohesiveness to have a cause, the government is too over leveraged to pursue a cause, and the economy is too hollowed out to supply the resources for a cause. Our country is now an opportunity zone for colonists from other nations.
    When this was a primarily European based country the level of national purpose and social capital may have been exaggerated by rear-view mirror nostalgia, but it had to be higher than now.
    Who would be these Americans deciding on a new cause?
    The Latinos working in construction or a packing plant?
    The Hasids populating entire communities and locking everyone else out?
    The Hindu surgeon?
    The Asian real estate agent moving property to cash buyers of their own ethnicity?
    The young Asian NYT columnist writing the paper’s 1,254th SailerBait editorial of the year complaining about the perfidy of Whites and demanding her liberation from their oppression?
    The H1B engineer?
    The Muslim shopkeeper in the Midwest with his wife and daughters in hijabs?
    The managers of corporations that explicitly state they are not American companies, they are international companies making money anywhere they can, whose only flag is the rainbow flag with their corporate logo superimposed.
    How many of the new Americans have any interest in setting a new cause for the US rather than just making money, getting into a good school, job, neighborhood and getting their cousins and parents into the country?
    I’m an immigrant who came to the US in the 50’s and even then my older relatives regarded this country the same way all immigrants do; as a prosperous, safe foreign land in which to make a living and live. Then our numbers were small and newcomers were expected to conform to being Americans. The problem is today they are running at numbers too big to assimilate, by some counts, 3M a year, and the culture tells them they have a grievance, this is a salad not a melting pot, and the country has to accommodate to them.
    What’s the consensus cause now other than self-interest?

    And how do we pay for a new cause? We keep hearing that we are burdening our children with a massive debt they will have to “repay”. Someone please tell me if they have ever seen any proposal on how that debt can ever be repaid, because I’ve never seen one. In the early days of the Clinton administration temporary defense budget cuts produced a surplus, but since then we have been making the minimum monthly payments on the credit card balance, and even that has only been possible because the Fed has dictated the interest rate and lowered it to an effectively negative rate.
    How do we dig out of that when the economy is hollowed, a lot of our manufacturing and technology have been offshored and we drain our economy with perpetual trade defects. We now operate more like a developing country exporting mostly raw materials, energy and food stuffs, while importing mostly high tech manufactured products.

    The real question is how the new colonists are going to handle the new US they are inheriting. There are a lot of nice things about our country; lots of habitable real estate, fertile farm land, nice scenery, natural resources, many talented people who can be harnessed as resources for the global capitalist order. As the Imperial phase of America fades away the new Americans will have to work out how to divide the assets. How to deal with writing off the national debt. How to control the inherited mass of feral, dependent people in the cities, maybe how to find a niche in a potential ascendant Chinese world order.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @dimples
    , @Miro23
  42. dfordoom says: • Website
    @follyofwar

    Once we are all vaccinated and micro chipped it will be too late.

    What on earth does vaccination have to do with the prospects for secession?

    Please tell me this isn’t another conspiracy theory.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  43. dimples says:
    @Alfa158

    “The US lacks the social cohesiveness to have a cause”

    Bollocks. The war party’s propaganda machine merely needs to spin up to speed and the cheering of the patriotic obese American sheep and cattle will be heard like thunder over the noise of the latest model jet bombers.

    The next US mission de jour, ie next instalment of the endless war, will be a new Cold War with China. Watch the blame game for the coronavirus ramp up and the provocations multiply!

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Alfa158
  44. Realist says:

    After the Great Pandemic has passed and we emerge from Great Depression II, what will be America’s mission in the world?

    To stay relevant.

  45. Realist says:

    And after persevering for four decades, we prevailed.

    What, then, did we do with our epochal victory?

    We alienated Russia by moving our NATO military alliance into the Baltic and Black Seas. We launched bloody, costly crusades for democracy in the Middle East that, invariably, failed. We exported a huge slice of our manufacturing capacity and economic independence to a coddled China.

    So how did we prevail?

  46. Not again says:

    Xackly right @follyofwar, America doesn’t need a cause, it needs a tow to the landfill. Chop it up and make something useful out of it. In terms of all the most comprehensive measure of modern world standard governance, USA USA USA is in the cellar. In the toilet. Prostrate in its own shit.

    https://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Indicators/Pages/HRIndicatorsIndex.aspx

    Note that ‘autocrat Putin’ (the government of Russia) dominates the US regime on every measure, including the legal standard for democracy, which Pat never heard of. Pat is unable to process this kind of overwhelming documentary evidence. It makes his head pop like a zit. When he recovers, he just writes another of those old-timey fake Lincoln speeches, we we we all the way home. Pat, nobody gives a shit about america.

    I’m so fucking sick of hearing about fucking shit america, that pathetic parasite-ridden downer cow. Just put it out of its misery. Every governor needs to be up on the international law of secession: at a minimum the ICJ advisory opinion on Kosovo and the current legal meaning of sovereignty. If he’s not, just purge his ass, he’s another illegal domestic CIA agent.

  47. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @DB Cooper

    I still read your comment as tongue-in-cheek, but someone else’s. Are you the surviving incubator baby, a Kuwaiti dauphin?

  48. Piglet says:

    We launched bloody, costly crusades for democracy in the Middle East that, invariably, failed.

    Does anyone honestly believe the wars in the ME were “crusades for democracy”? Did anyone ever actually believe that, or was it just fluff for the gullible at the time?

    • Agree: Hail
  49. Piglet says:
    @DB Cooper

    Here’s my proposal. “Rally” the international community yourself and, instead of sending someone else’s money and sons (and now daughters) to do the dirty work for you, you send yourself and your own family members. You can buy your own weapons too with your own money instead of putting the rest of us further into debt. We don’t need any more useless wars.

    We’ll watch it all on TV, just as you would have done to those of us who would have been sent.

    Have fun.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  50. @DB Cooper

    America will once again lead the world and be a force for good.

    Yeah, taking out China’s biggest regional rival for them will really vault us to the top…

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  51. Alfa158 says:
    @dimples

    I don’t think they will anymore. The “Deplorables” are checking out of the program and the “New Americans” were never in it. There will be a lot of cheerleading and astro-turfing by the usual suspects, but almost no one is going to join the parade.
    Did you notice the distinct lack of enthusiasm for the latest campaigns to bomb/no-fly zone/invade Syria/Iran/Crimea/Venezuela/wherever?
    I mentioned here before how the military recruitment ads used to consist entirely of happy multiculti young people hanging out partying off-duty, getting diplomas, probing electrical circuits, staring intently at computer screens, anything but killing and getting killed. Some of the newer ones now also include young Deplorables in combat gear kicking down doors in dusty villages, and inviting them to join up, do their patriotic duty, travel to distant lands, meet exotic people and kill them. This might suggest that the military is having trouble finding enough of the young Deplorables, who man most of the combat units, to fill even their presently modest recruitment quotas.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  52. ricpic says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice if the new American Cause became the return to a republican form of government, limited in size, jealously guarding its citizens liberties and modest in its stance to the rest of the world?

    A current’s tribute to its source, as it were.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  53. Derer says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Independence from Israel is not important but the independence from the American Jewish lobby influence in a predominantly Christian country is.

  54. @Alfa158

    Young rural whites know what the word “Cannon Fodder” means and knows that this is exactly what Hillary thought when she developed an obsession with Ukraine.

    The urban/rural divide has always existed but is now pronounced with rural white proles aware of what redneck rubes the ruling elite regard them to be.

    Having called them Deplorables, how would Hillary have gotten them to volunteer for the Ukraine?

    Rural whites know that the shot-callers regard them with utter disdain.

    They are also aware that rural young people whose parents declare the wars want nothing to do them. There is no draft.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  55. @Jeff Stryker

    Unfortunately, there will probably be no shortage of volunteers for some time to come. With jobs now impossible to get, I suspect young MAGA whites will be barging down the doors of recruiters. A nice paycheck, even with the risk of getting killed, is better than starving.

    Have you noticed that nearly all of those protesting in state capitals around the country, demanding a return to work, happen to be white?

  56. @dfordoom

    What I wrote in my second paragraph is speculation, based on some stuff I have read. I do not presume to know what will happen. That’s why the sentence I wrote before you selectively quoted me was written in the form of a question.

    Gore Vidal wrote that he was a “conspiracy analyst,” not a “conspiracy theorist.” I try to follow the same path.

  57. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I think the CIA should be abolished just based upon their track record to date. The FBI at least does some good sometimes with their Behavioural Science Unit at Quantico. I like the Quantico Behavioural Science analysts as they are science based & empirically based rather than based in, or stooped in propaganda of state. Sure the FBI has screwed up BIG time over the years, but they do have Quantico which comes in handy when one needs a science unit with some semblance of expertise.

    The CIA can be thrown in the trash can, I agree.

    RW

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Mj
  58. DB Cooper says:
    @Ozymandias

    Who told you the shithole is China’s biggest regional rival? The shithole can’t even do diddly-squat to Pakistan despite repeated trying.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  59. DB Cooper says:
    @Piglet

    ““Rally” the international community yourself and, instead of sending someone else’s money and sons (and now daughters) to do the dirty work for you, you send yourself and your own family members.”

    This is exactly what I am talking about. Saudi Arabia paid for the first gulf war. If the US do it right it won’t cost the US a dime. And I am not talking about ground war sending in foot soldiers. I am talking about dropping bombs six thousands feet in the air. America has a lot of experience in this. There won’t be any America casulty. It is time for America to lead.

  60. SafeNow says:

    “But who’s to say he (Mr. Buchanan) would have been any more effective“

    I’ll proudly take the bait. For what it’s worth, I say Mr. Buchanan would have been a more effective President.

  61. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:

    If Trump wins, borders will be tightened. The U.S. withdrawal from the Mideast will continue.

    I doubt this. On the immigration front, Trump has repeatedly stated he wants record numbers of legal immigrants. He’s done practically nothing to reduce that flow, and he’s now walking back claims he ever promised to reduce legal immigration in the first place; his EO immigration moratorium has likewise been revealed as a scam — doesn’t apply to guest workers and extends just 60 days. On foreign policy, he’s been relentlessly belligerent towards Iran, exactly what his neocon donors like Sheldon Adelson want. If Trump is reelected, there is a high chance we get a disastrous war with Iran. He’s also been remarkably weak on withdrawing troops from Syria.

    Fundamentally, Trump is a weak man. He can be bullied on immigration and matters of war by his neocon underlings and daughter. She doesn’t want “kids in cages” so there will be no immigration moratorium. Jared Kushner is an imbecile easily manipulated by Benjamin Netanyahu, so he’ll continue pushing Trump for war on Iran. Trump will eventually give both parties what they want.

    The good news is that Donald Trump will probably lose to Joe Biden, so he won’t be president this time next year. The bad news is that the democrats aren’t any better than Donald Trump over all. We may not invade the Middle East as much, but our homeland here will be invaded. We may not bankrupt ourselves in an Iran War, but we’ll bankrupt ourselves giving free healthcare to illegals and their descendants. We may not get a cold war with China, but we’ll get one with Russia and any European nation that defies our government. We may not go to war with China over the economy, but we’ll go to war against the public as free trade and outsourcing continue. We may not get a new Red Scare, but we’ll get a White Scare as democrats in congress continue holding investigations scapegoating whites for minority troubles. China may not end up paying reparations to the US; instead we the public will end up paying reparations to the democrats.

  62. @DB Cooper

    Who told you the shithole is China’s biggest regional rival?

    China did. You’re a bit of a nutter, aren’t you?

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  63. Miro23 says:
    @Alfa158

    As the Imperial phase of America fades away the new Americans will have to work out how to divide the assets. How to deal with writing off the national debt. How to control the inherited mass of feral, dependent people in the cities…

    To draw a parallel: As Imperial India faded away, the new Indians (on Independence 1947) had to work out how to divide the assets. This did cause problems. The ethnic British returned to the UK, and the country broke up with religious/ethnic strife forming mutually hostile Hindu India and Islamic Pakistan with population transfers between the two.

    If America gained Independence and America’s colonial administrators (Jews) returned to Israel, then the most natural split would be along ethnic lines: Anglo Europeans covering most of the US landmass, a Latino state around the old Spanish dominions (New Mexico and California) and an African state in the deep south (around Mississippi / Louisiana). No doubt it would involve a lot of problems but each new state would have its own identity and cause.

    The Northern Confederation, Mexicali and Akania (land of the Akans – origin in the medieval west African kingdoms).

  64. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Miro23

    As Imperial India faded away, the new Indians (on Independence 1947) had to work out how to divide the assets. This did cause problems. The ethnic British returned to the UK, and the country broke up with religious/ethnic strife forming mutually hostile Hindu India and Islamic Pakistan with population transfers between the two.

    And possibly as many as two million people were killed. And it led to two subsequent wars.

    Anyone who thinks secession can be achieved peacefully for the US might want to keep the example of the Partition of India in mind. It was one of the great disasters of 20th century history.

  65. @Miro23

    You vastly underestimate the concentration of nonwhite and mestizo Hispanics in many places outside California, Texas, and the Southwest.

    Try several million Hispanics in the Chicago area.

    Try another million Hispanics spread across Kansas and Nebraska.

    Anywhere where greedy disloyal white farmers and big ag businesses invited them to work in their fields and their meatpacking plants instead of raising wages to hire White (and Black) Americans.

    Try several hundred thousand Hispanics, rather suddenly, in beautiful West Michigan.

    Add several million “Latinos”, formerly Puerto Ricans but now also Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Mexicans, in NY City area, plus a couple MILLION more in the NY suburbs and a couple MILLION more throughout New Jersey.

    Hundreds of thousands of Latinos in DC and its MD and VA suburbs.

    Try a growing Hispanic presence up in Idaho, in Utah, in even northern Colorado.

    There are more nonwhite and mestizo Hispanics in the USA outside Cali and Texas than in Cali and Texas.

    If you intend Anglo Europeans to mean only those descended from the British isles and NW Europe, you’re dead already, numerically. If you mean all European-Americans, including the tens of millions of white Americans with Eastern European Slavic or Southern European genetic and cultural heritage, you MIGHT have the manpower and resources to survive in a large part of the current USA.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  66. @Miro23

    P.S. The African States and their natives wherever they may be found, will never cease posing a threat to the rest of us. There can be absolutely no admittance of the Africans to the new rump white, white/Asian, and Hispanic countries or confederations that may form out of the disuniting USA.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  67. Anonymous[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Good post.

  68. nickels says:

    America’s over.
    They shut her down.

  69. Anonymous[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    If America gained Independence and America’s colonial administrators (Jews) returned to Israel…

    The Jews are fucked in Israel without the US and the US is fucked if it retains its Jewish colonial administrators. The Tribe’s only “solution” is WW3.

  70. Miro23 says:
    @RadicalCenter

    There are more nonwhite and mestizo Hispanics in the USA outside Cali and Texas than in Cali and Texas.

    If you intend Anglo Europeans to mean only those descended from the British Isles and NW Europe, you’re dead already, numerically. If you mean all European-Americans, including the tens of millions of white Americans with Eastern European Slavic or Southern European genetic and cultural heritage, you MIGHT have the manpower and resources to survive in a large part of the current USA.

    Following the Indian example – there are more Muslims in present day India than there are in Pakistan (they chose to stay on Partition). However, they are a minority, and it’s recognized that political power belongs to the Hindu majority (even if they are abusing it).

    Latinos outside of Mexacali who elected to stay where they were, would accept that political power lies with the people of the Anglo-European Northern Confederation (i.e. defined as an Anglo-European state – home of ethnic Anglo-European people). They would have permanent subsidiary political rights.

    If full political rights were the priority, then they could move to Mexacali.

    East European Slavs (Poland, Russia, Czech, Ukraine, Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia etc.) and Southern Europeans (Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece) are clearly Europeans (they’re not Chinese, Arabs, Indians, Latino native or Africans) with their historic homelands in Europe.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  71. Jimmy1969 says:

    Pat: you are getting old and near the end; and you are one of the last of the old guard who know many of the real dirty facts of American Political life. You have skirted around the topics of Israel/Zionism/American Jews for decades…without really getting too specific and like most guys like you who wanted to play both sides of the street you always messaged your comments in code words. I wish for the sake of posterity you would write either a book or a 20 page essay and really let it rip with no holds bared on the subject of American Jews/money/Zionism and the American electoral political process. It might enhance your retirement…but do it for the good of the Country that has been good to you.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  72. Rurik says:
    @anonymous

    keeping his beloved Cold War going and reassuring readers that Uncle Sam is the good guy, whose imperialism would be fine if “we” could afford it.

    I can’t think of one person, (let alone columnist) who has been more adamant, articulate, and admonishing, since day one- that our (that’s citizens of the ZUS) saber-rattling and provocations towards a post-communist Russia are a dangerous folly.

    Buchanan, more than anyone I know, has decried America’s arrogance and stupidity for pushing NATO right up to the Russian bear’s front door. He’s been on that point year after year after year..

    Nor, has any significant persona, (other than Ron Paul) been more consistent in pointing out the dangerous and destructive stupidity of America’s imperialism, (war mongering, and generally acting like a murderous, drunken asshole on the world’s stage. [only Pat wouldn’t put it in quite those terms ; ])

    • Replies: @anonymous
  73. @Robert White

    “Quantico which comes in handy when one needs a science unit with some semblance of expertise.”

    Please give me some specific examples of this, and your estimate as to how many times this “comes in handy” in a year.

    • Replies: @Robert White
  74. Old Guy says: • Website

    When there is no existential threat, the “American Cause” is simply the “American Dream.” Let each person work hard to better his/her position in society, and improve their local communities.

    Perhaps with the internet now, we spend too much time thinking more in “global terms” and not enough in how to improve our own lives, or the well-functioning of our town / neighborhood. It is easier to get “good feels” by fighting with strangers online than doing the long, boring work of getting a better job, or working on local issues.

    Pessimistic take: The Machiavellians will get ahead, the clueless will continue to fight pointless internet crusades, and the losers will feed their addictions with ever more addictive media.

    Without an existential threat, there will be nothing to unite Machiavellians in any single direction, beyond the simple boom-bust cycle of companies under capitalism. Perhaps they will try to tear down monopolies like Amazon or Google.

    If climate change starts causing more damage to the USA, I doubt it would be responded to in a unified fashion. Different locations would be affected differently. Just look at Katrina. We have an “every state for himself” mentality. That is what happens when you get a country as big as ours.

    All Machiavellians are unified against Tech theft from China, although that hardly seems to be influencing the public much. Wouldn’t it be funny if the government started mandating / funding mass-education in cyber-security? Since tech theft is still a company-by-company issue, it seems unlikely that there will be any strong unified response that sweeps up us normies as foot soldiers. Just high-level actions like angry diplomats or tariffs.

    Peter Zeihan claims the new “cause” will be the re-shoring of industry, and the breakdown of global US-guaranteed trade. Surviving and thriving in the chaos that that would bring might instigate a very “wild-west” sort of atmosphere.

  75. Old Guy says:
    @TGD

    Industry has already been re-shoring to the USA lately, as well as the Mexican border. The minimum wage in Mexico was just raised to $3.20/day (~ $0.40/hr). American industries doing anything labor-intensive will open factories at the border. Anything requiring a mix of engineers and cheap labor will likely open in the Sunbelt (AZ, Texas, etc.)

    Industrial policy will likely be decided state-by-state, since different states are chasing different kinds of industries (e.g. high-tech vs. medium-tech vs. low-tech) which require different policies.

  76. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    None of which refutes a word of what I said, especially in the context of my comment.

    “[only Pat wouldn’t put it in quite those terms ; ]”

    As you’re a fan of both, think of it this way: Dr. Paul is a man of principle, Mr. Buchanan one of tactics.

    You mulishly refuse to see how some of these supposed dissidents serve the Establishment. Thus, you’ll vote again for more of the same in the next Most Important Election Ever.

  77. @Bill Jones

    Most major metropolitan areas of North America have serial killers operating without detection as the FBI Behavioural Science Unit attempts to empirically model their abhorrent behaviour and develop scientific methods/methodology to better identify & track major crimes behaviours & personalities/traits et cetera.

    The Central Ineptitude Agency does not track text book Psychopaths in the USA whereas the FBI Behavioral Science Unit does. And they have a success rate of tracking text book Psychopaths too.

    Look it up on Google.

    RW

  78. Corvinus says:
    @Jimmy1969

    “I wish for the sake of posterity you would write either a book or a 20 page essay and really let it rip with no holds bared on the subject of American Jews/money/Zionism and the American electoral political process.”

    It would not be as bad as you think it is.

  79. Corvinus says:
    @Miro23

    “East European Slavs (Poland, Russia, Czech, Ukraine, Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia etc.) and Southern Europeans (Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece) are clearly Europeans (they’re not Chinese, Arabs, Indians, Latino native or Africans) with their historic homelands in Europe.”

    Are you trying to purposely divided White America into two camps–Anglo-Europeans and non-Anglo-Europeans? Are you saying that these groups you listed above must go back? Please clarify.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  80. Corvinus says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “The African States and their natives wherever they may be found, will never cease posing a threat to the rest of us.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “There can be absolutely no admittance of the Africans to the new rump white, white/Asian, and Hispanic countries or confederations that may form out of the disuniting USA.”

    Fortunately, IF and when there is this magical break-up of the Union, and new nation-states are forming out of the ashes, you and your ilk will not be making that decision.

    If anything, you’re going to have to go back.

  81. Rurik says:

    You mulishly refuse to see how some of these supposed dissidents serve the Establishment.

    While I too often wince when Pat suggests how “We launched bloody, costly crusades for democracy in the Middle East”, it isn’t like he’s suggesting that you or I, (or himself for that matter), did these things for those reasons, but it is true nevertheless that the ((government)) of the ZUS did do those things, for those putative (lied-about) reasons.

    But if Pat digresses too radically from the nomenclature of our [NY]Times, he risks confounding his well-established audience of Paleos and GOP Republicans. Pat is a lifelong Catholic and Republican, so I take his paeans to those two camps (and his – yes, often cringe worthy use of establishment tropes) with a grain of salt, when reading his articles.

    We dissidents (and Buchanan) all know we didn’t go into the Middle East to spread democracy. We all know ‘we’ went into the Middle East to send all nations unbowed to Zion- reeling into dystopian hells on earth for generations. But if Pat were to characterize it that way, he’d be run out of “respectable” circles in a NY second.

    Pat (and Dr. Paul and Tucker, et al) all must parse their words carefully to avoid mentioning AIPAC and PNAC and CFR and all the other acronyms of Zion, while mentioning Billy Kristol (or Max Boot in Tucker’s case) as a sort of oblique way of saying (((it))).

    It is for people like me to say things like ‘all our Eternal Wars in the Middle East are all being waged and fought and paid for, to benefit a cabal of Jewish supremacists that have their Goldman Sachs/Federal Reserve fangs in our Treasury, White House and congress. And who own or control outright all of America’s media of any consequence, and so all national (and most state) level politicians have to toe their line, or return to the job market and work for a living. Hence the near perfect fealty to Zion.

    Thus, you’ll vote again for more of the same in the next Most Important Election Ever.

    I’d vote for more of the same?

    Or hold my nose, and vote for less of the same.

    The tragedy of modern politics today is that it’s a zero sum game. If not Trump = then Hillary.

    Now it looks like it’s either Trump / or Biden.

    If Biden picked Rand Paul for his running mate, I’d vote for Biden. If Biden picked Michelle Obama, I’d vote for Trump.

    I like being in possession of my balls. I really don’t want to live under a government that would like, (if not consider it priority one) to castrate all white males like myself and our sons and grandsons.

    It may sound hyperbolic, but I will say with 100% certainty, that IMO, Michelle Obama would love nothing more on this planet, than to round up every white male in America, with a reasonable chance of fathering children, and have them all castrated (hopefully with a dull knife).

    How else can you consider the words of men like Robert Reich, who demands that no ‘white construction workers’ see one penny of that stimulus money.

    That privileged little Jewish supremacist rat, didn’t say white construction company owners. No. He said construction ‘workers‘. Poor, working class white men who he (and Michelle and Hillary and Maxine and Sotomayer and Kagan and Ginsburg…) would all like to see castrated with a dull knife.

    So..

    .. if it seems to you, that wanting to avoid living under a government (and supreme court) who’d relish the idea of castrating me (financially if not literally) – seems like misplaced energy for “the next Most Important Election Ever”, the way I see it, is that I simply like my balls being where they are. Trump may step on them if they’re in his way, but I don’t feel like he’s ideologically committed to separating them from the rest of me.

    Which is more than I can say for Maxine and Ruth and Michelle and Robert Reich and the rest..

    • Agree: SafeNow
    • Replies: @anonymous
  82. Miro23 says:
    @Corvinus

    Read what RadicalCenter said and my reply.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  83. Corvinus says:
    @Miro23

    I read everything. You need to be clearer. So, are you trying to purposely divided White America into two camps–Anglo-Europeans and non-Anglo-Europeans? So, are you saying that these groups you listed above must go back? Please clarify.

  84. Peace and prosperity for the American people. Yeah I know. It sounds crazy. But I think it would be a good thing.

  85. @PaulT

    ‘“We launched bloody, costly crusades for democracy in the Middle East that, invariably, failed.”

    The U.S. is interested in democracy in the oil-rich Middle East? lol’

    Pat’s learned his lesson. He doesn’t want to get labeled as an anti-semite.

    So we fought the wars ‘for democracy.’ What do you want? Pat’s suicide note?

  86. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    You explicitly support a politician who will step on your balls?

    Had I known you were a masochist, I might not have spent as many minutes and keystrokes trying (futilely) to prevent your voting for another Tromping. Unfortunately, people like you drag the rest of us along. But at least I tried.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  87. MEexpert says:
    @Exile

    Asking what “America’s mission” is begs the question of whether there’s an “America” in the first place.

    There in lies the folly in people’s thinking. This is the United States of America not just America. America is a continent not a country. It is the same exceptionalism thinking that makes us call ourselves americans. The sooner we realize our true identity, the better it will be for us.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Wally
  88. MEexpert says:
    @DB Cooper

    How about kicking out Israel from Palestine?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @DB Cooper
  89. @MEexpert

    If Kuwait had not been oil-rich, it would have been unimportant. Yemen never made a difference to the Americans, it had no oil.

  90. @MEexpert

    USAians? Not North Americans, that includes Mexicans and Canadians. Canadians have always prided themselves on not being American. And Mexican belong to the Latin Americas.

  91. Rurik says:
    @anonymous

    You explicitly support a politician who will step on your balls?

    no, I accept the reality of reality

    and that reality is that our politicians are whores and self-serving scumbags, who wouldn’t think twice about selling us all down the river of depraved slavery to our enemies, if it meant a few more shekels clinking in their pockets. Duh (fool)

    And the reality is that there’s going to be one of those in the White House. (fool)

    So if the one in the White House today, would step on (my admittedly hard to avoid) balls, then I’d prefer that to the alternative self-serving scumbag, who would, if she could, stomp on my balls before setting them on fire.

    A lot of deluded imbeciles pretend in their idiocy that we don’t have live in a real world where there are politicians, and we can all just play pretend and act like there aren’t any, and everything will be fine, if we all just pretend.

    ‘Don’t vote, because they’re all the same, and they will all kick you in the balls given half the chance’. True enough. But like I said, some of them will kick you in the balls, and the other one would have your balls ripped off. So in spite of the delusional fools, who live in their purple unicorn world where pretend is better than reality, I face the truth. (it’s what rational adults do ; )

    And that truth is that Trump is a gazillion to the n’th power- better than Hillary would have been, and likely a thousand times better than Joe Biden would be.

    But it hurts the delusional fools to hear harsh reality. In their butt-hurt world, they prefer to pretend. Nothing much I can do to help such pathetic losers (and I mean losers literally, because when they don’t vote, they’re going to lose ; )

    • Agree: Wally
  92. Wally says:
    @KenH

    – You expect too much from someone who in less than 3 1/2 years has had to endure endless attacks like: fake ‘Russia-Russia-Russia’, Gorsuch appointment attacks, Kavanaugh appointment attacks, fake impeachment, and now the fake ‘CV19 pandemic is Trump’s fault’; the list is endless.

    – Nonetheless, it’s much better to have Trump doing something vs. Hillary and / or the current alternatives actually increasing all that you say you don’t like.

    – Trump over the current alternatives any day.

  93. Wally says:
    @MEexpert

    – Said the geographic place names challenged.

    It is North America AND South America which are continents.
    There is no continent of ‘America’.
    Pay attention. *

    – Ask anyone in the world to point to ‘America’ on a map.
    Yep, they point to the USA every time.

    – And given the fact that the USA has been and is THE destination of choice for most ‘immigrants’ of all types, then indeed, America is “exceptional”.

    *

    • Replies: @MEexpert
  94. MEexpert says:
    @Wally

    It is North America AND South America which are continents.
    There is no continent of ‘America’.
    Pay attention. *

    I do pay attention. People need to read geography little more. There were five continents. Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia, and America. This division of North and South came later and is obviously based on race. You yourself pointed this out. White America and Latin America. The Latin Americans should have equal right of calling themselves americans as well.

    • Replies: @Wally
  95. Wally says:
    @MEexpert

    – LOL

    – Anyone can call themselves whatever they like, ‘Hey, I’m a Martian’, but such stupidity does not make a fact.

    – I have travelled extensively in Latin America / South America, and guess what … they never refer to themselves as ‘American’ or from ‘America’. They do however refer to me and those like me as ‘Americans’.

  96. Outside of restoring traditional demographics and culture and extending justice to the people running the U.S., I don’t see much else of importance to get worked up about. I just want to live my life in my own country, and have no need for cause dreamed up by my betters, which would likely only cost me blood and money.

  97. bjondo says:

    What Will be the New American Cause?

    The CAUSE, moving double time, is not new nor American:

    To destroy, to enslave America.

    5 dancing shlomos

  98. Mj says:

    I know exactly what the New American Cause should be.

    Environmentalist that I am, I want to see a bona fide crusade to reduce the national waistline. Who’s with me?

  99. Mj says:
    @Robert White

    The CIA inspires too many interesting cloak-and-dagger movies for them to be “thrown in the trash can.” Where would we be without Jack Ryan and Jason Bourne?

  100. DB Cooper says:
    @MEexpert

    “How about kicking out Israel from Palestine?”

    That is also good.

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