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“Take away this pudding; it has no theme,” is a comment attributed to Winston Churchill, when a disappointing dessert was put in front of him.

Writers have used Churchill’s remark to describe a foreign policy that lacks coherence or centrality of purpose.

For most of our lifetimes, this has not been true of the United States. The goal of our foreign policy has been understandable and defined.

From 1949-1989, it was Cold War containment of the Soviet Empire and USSR.

Ronald Reagan believed in a “rollback” of communism, once telling an aide that his policy might be summed up as: “We win. They lose.”

At the Cold War’s end, George H. W. Bush said America would now lead mankind in the creation of “a New World Order.”

George W. Bush was going to deny to all “axis of evil” nations — North Korea, Iran, Saddam Hussein’s Iraq — access to the “world’s worst weapons,” with our ultimate goal being “ending tyranny in our world.”

According to the Biden Democrats of today, America’s goal is the preservation of “a rules-based international order,” which is less inspiring than “Remember the Alamo!” or “Remember Pearl Harbor!”

What are the causes that actually animate Americans?

A March survey of 2,000 registered voters, done by the Center for American Progress, reveals that most Republicans still share the foreign policy priorities of Donald J. Trump.

Asked to identify their first three foreign policy priorities from a list of a dozen, two-thirds of Republicans, 65%, gave as their principal concern “Reducing illegal immigration.” And 57% of Republicans put “Protecting jobs for American workers” right behind it. Independents agreed that these should be the top twin goals of U.S. foreign policy.

What does this tell us?

Economic nationalism is alive and well in the GOP, and securing the border remains a central concern of America’s center-right.

In third position, at 31% among Republicans, was “Taking on China’s economic and military aggression.”

Only 9% of Republicans listed “Fighting global poverty and promoting human rights” as top foreign policy priorities. Last among GOP priorities, at 7%, was “Promoting democratic rights and freedoms abroad.”

Indeed, this was the least popular foreign policy option among all voters.

Conclusion:

The priorities of the Bush presidencies and the neocons — democracy crusades, free trade, the New World Order, open borders — have failed to recapture the constituencies they lost in the Trump years.

While “Combating global climate change” rests near the bottom of Republican concerns at 10%, it is the No. 1 priority of Democrats, with 44% listing it first.

When it comes to “Ending US involvement in wars in the Middle East,” that goal ranks 5th among all voters. Democrats, Republicans and independents all support that objective.

Since the last CAP survey in 2019, the greatest change is the reduced concern over “terrorist threats” from al-Qaida and ISIS. Fewer than 1 in 4 voters now view this as a top priority.

As Matthew Petti writes in an analysis of the CAP survey, today, Americans “prioritize getting out of Middle East wars over confronting Middle East adversaries.”

This survey would thus seem to provide public support for the Trump-Biden withdrawal from Afghanistan, and for Biden’s effort to reengage with Iran and renew the 2015 nuclear deal.

Also ranked high among Democrats and independents, but less so among Republicans, is “Improving relationships with allies.”

What does the survey tell us?

Illegal immigration and economic nationalism energize the GOP rank-and-file; climate change does not. There is no enthusiasm in either party for new democracy crusades. And there seems to be no enthusiasm in either party for a clash with Iran, North Korea, Russia or China.

Only 14% of Democrats wish to address China’s “military and economic aggression,” though 31% of Republicans do.

But the overall impression here is one of democratic confusion.

We Americans are all over the lot about what our foreign policy should be and what it should do. One is reminded of an insight from Walter Lippmann about U.S. foreign policy confusion before World War II:

ORDER IT NOW

“When a people is divided within itself about the conduct of foreign relations, it is unable to agree on the determination of its true interest. It is unable to prepare adequately for war or safeguard successfully its peace. Thus, it course in foreign affairs depends, in Hamilton’s words, not on reflection and choice, but on accident and force.”

Should we energetically promote democracy worldwide, because it is the right and moral thing to do, though the American people clearly do not see this as America’s cause?

Should we intervene to help Ukraine retrieve Crimea?

Should we fight to prevent China from consolidating rocks, reefs and islets of the East and South China Seas?

Is preserving the independence of Taiwan, which we conceded half a century ago is part of China, worth a war with a nuclear-armed China?

What role should U.S. public opinion play in the shaping of U.S. foreign policy?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. mijj says:

    > “a rules-based international order”
    = US Feudal Empire World domination .. the lust to live off the welfare of other nations, forced by mass murder terrorism subversion or looting

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  2. What Is America’s Cause in the World?

    Spreading globo-homo. In a way, it makes sense because US imperialism f***s the world in the ass.

    “We sodomize you, the world. Enjoy it!”

  3. Franz says:

    Should we intervene to help Ukraine retrieve Crimea?

    Questions this stupid are why more and more people are agreeing with the Founders who were suspicious of standing armies.

    Mothball the fleet and bring the armies home. Enough patriots will be loose so maybe we can have our very own free corps to get the country back.

  4. El Dato says:

    Only two goals:

    – Priority 1. Please avoid nuking anybody while you die, okay? The Soviet Union managed this. The USA can, too.
    – Priority 2: Try to build reservoirs of the Old USA not yet taken over by expeditionary Yankees paying tribute to Israel and colored ones looking for a quick grab in the current continent-wide colored ghetto that is emerging. But that’s secondary.

    That will be all.

  5. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:

    The Pax Americana is over. Mostly because of the anti-industrial economic and technological policies pursued in the last 50 years and reaching for culmination today. Against that is the Eurasian consolidation going on under the auspices of Russia and China which apparently have only lip service to offer, at best, to anti-industrial policy.

    The US is living in past dreams of virtue long betrayed. Defending Taiwan in 1950 was feasible.
    Defending Taiwan today, if China really wishes to take it, is a fool’s errand. A determined effort to attack or defend would likely devastate the island making the goal itself nugatory. It could only be a very destructive preliminary to a general war. A fight for Taiwan alone is not credible.

    Beyond that the struggle in Eurasia becomes less credible with every passing year. If the US really wanted honestly to construct a universal state it should have begun after WWII, have spoken not of the self determination of peoples, but of peace through universal unity and development. It did not. The US along with the rest of the victorious powers had no stomach for it. China, through the BRI, comes much closer to promotion of the necessary development and against which the US strongly argues is nothing more than Chinese aggression. The US still has no stomach for universal development.

    The US has betrayed the enlightenment and sinks deeper into its own divisive and destructive darkness as the years pass. It is time for the US to abandon its failed and ugly dreams of a new Green primitivism in Eurasia and come home. As it stands this country has nothing to offer the world but damnation. Let it keep that for itself.

  6. gT says:

    America’s policy has always been “We win. They lose”, only problem is America only won because of something called credit and something else called FIRE ponzi schemes. America knew that her winning hand was only temporary, yet she wanted to continue playing them even after the communist USSR collapsed, manifest destiny or something like that. At the same time America also transferred all the West’s production and manufacturing to communist China, allowing Chinese goods to flood Western markets, and opening Western borders to every Jabu, Matias and Mohammed out there.

    America basically just wants to commit suicide, as Shamir, or who ever it was, was writing about. Though why uplift China at the same time Zeus alone knows.

    Promoting democracy worldwide was always only about prolonging American power through CIA control of foreign governments.

    • Agree: MarkU, GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Sir Launcelot Canning
  7. So-called rule-based preservation of international order is the new phraseology of the Biden regime to try desperately to reestablish the US Empire’s domination of the world. But these days have gone. Every serious analyst of the international systems knows it, except the ideologues of the Biden regime. The rhetoric of a “value-based” aims at destroying international law, which the US regime has been trying since it attacked Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, not to speak of Syria, where the US collaborated and supported ISIS terrorists.

    Give me a break, Mr. Buchanan. The foreign policy of President Donald Trump had many flaws. The biggest one was the destruction of the so-called nuclear deal, the termination of normal relations to Cuba, and the arbitrary imposition of sanctions on any country that didn’t behave to US dictates. More and more states reject US dictates. They want to be the masters of their own destiny. The US has no right to impose its corrupt and criminal pseudo-democratic regime upon others.

    Donald Trump was right, rejecting to build democracy in other countries. It’s a hopeless cause such as Afghanistan has demonstrated. After 20 years of occupation, the US and its NATO flunkies have to leave the country. Defeated like the Brits and the Russians before. What does it tell you, Pat? Clean up your own backyard. As it seems, the ideologues of the Biden regime haven’t understood the message. Does the US want to die for Crimea, Taiwan, or some rocks in the South China Sea?

    The Biden regime shouldn’t fool around with President Putin. He is the most rational actor on the international stage.

    • Agree: follyofwar, Rogue
    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Corvinus
  8. If you still haven’t realized that Mr. Buchanan (or his intern) is just another part of the puppet show …

    Consider.

    This column about the latest Red+Blue poll conducted by the Clintonian Center for American Progress was apparently inspired by Fulbright fellow Matthew Petti’s post on the website of yet another Beltway “statecraft” think tank that professes a more “responsible” approach.

    Mr. Buchanan has added the cliche history and Reagan homage

    The goal of our foreign policy has been understandable and defined.

    From 1949-1989, it was Cold War containment of the Soviet Empire and USSR.

    Ronald Reagan believed in a “rollback” of communism, once telling an aide that his policy might be summed up as: “We win. They lose.”

    a battery of loaded “we we we” questions like

    Should we energetically promote democracy worldwide, because it is the right and moral thing to do, though the American people clearly do not see this as America’s cause?

    Should we intervene to help Ukraine retrieve Crimea?

    and, oddly, an

    insight from Walter Lippmann about U.S. foreign policy confusion before World War II

    to suggest that the country needs to do something more to “prepare adequately for war [and] safeguard successfully its peace.”

    Uncle Sam will, as always, see to that.

    The last question he has posed

    What role should U.S. public opinion play in the shaping of U.S. foreign policy?

    is ridiculous. Washington politics are how dissent becomes participatory assent to whatever those inside Mr. Buchanan’s Beltway would do anyway.

  9. G. Poulin says:

    Democracy is crap. Let’s stop worshipping crap.

  10. The United States Of America has no cause in the world. The people of The United States Of America are ruled by scum who’s only cause is self enrichment. Said scum lie to the people when speaking of noble causes. The United States Of America is not even a country any more. How could it have a cause? It’s rulers have thrown open the borders making this a no man’s land. Every human on Earth is now an “American”.

    It came to pass that a world power sprang up in, of all places, the Americas.

    • Agree: ruralguy
  11. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘9% listed “Fighting global poverty and promoting human rights”‘

    Now this is you why poor pig-ignorant US lumpen are so pathetically downtrodden. You don’t know your rights. You march around in your tricorn hats and your gherkins blowing your picaros and obsessing about your bullshit obsolete revoked bill of rights, and you have no clue what rights they get in grown-up countries.

    Because you never heard of article 9 or General Comment 34, or UDHR Article 26, or the ICESCR, you got no education and no intellect and you fall for the propaganda trick in the survey question above. Did you see it? Nuh-uh, you din’t! They associate human rights with you giving money to poors. Your bullshit US kleptocracy keeps you too broke and insecure to do that. So you’re scared of rights. You figure it’s one more debt trap you’ll get pushed into.

    America is a meaningless abstraction. Pat’s obsessed with it like some preacher who won’t shut up about his imaginary friend Jaysus. The US kleptocracy has got its hooks in you. That’s your problem. Knock it over, rip it apart, wreck its defense industrial base, imprison its official criminals. Since your government keeps you politically helpless, you’re going to need Russia and China and Iran for help with that.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  12. tyrone says:

    Obama canceled the ban on gain of function experiments eleven days before leaving office……that was a green light for a bio-weapon attack……. “these ” people are trying to prod White America into a civil war ……..promoting “de-mockracy overseas ,Crimea ,give me a break.

  13. @Anonymous

    Since your government keeps you politically helpless, you’re going to need Russia and China and Iran for help with that.

    Agreed.

    As for the rest of your rant I suggest you meditate on the distinction betwee a con man and his mark. The former is criminal. The later is victim.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @littlereddot
  14. One of the choices should have been ending all immigration.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
  15. Yee says:

    What Is America’s Cause in the World?

    1. western media to control the masses of all other nations in the world.
    2. CIA to control the politicians of all other nations in the world.

    Nations dare to reject such controls are enemies of the United States.

  16. Realist says:

    What Is America’s Cause in the World?

    DOMINATION

  17. @Ludwig Watzal

    Sleepy Biden’s clueless SOS ‘Blinky’ Blinken has turned his “rules based international order” phrase into a punch line. The Chinese delegation made a clown of Blinken after he said that, when they met in Alaska. He must have wished that he could have hidden under the table. The Biden Admin, with its foreign policy a disaster, is circling around like dump filled toilet water, recently flushed. And what that toilet is holding is brown and smelly. Hold your breath. The worst is yet to come.

    • LOL: GomezAdddams
  18. ruralguy says:

    Actually, how can a nation even function, when a majority can’t distinguish between reality and make believe? Most voters think Black crime and failures can’t be due to Blacks low IQs, but must be due to Whites’ “systematic racism.”

    Today, our biggest national hero is St. George Floyd, a felon/convict, never-married father of six with multiple women who abandoned them, a drug addict, and worthless parasite.

    Years ago, when reading about WW1, I could never understand why Italians cheered on their German invaders, lining the streets waving and cheering their advance. Now, I understand.

  19. MarkU says:

    What is America’s cause in the world?

    The same as those of the British Empire, to further the interests of Jewish bankers.

    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
  20. The US government’s only “cause in the world” should be to protect the lives, liberty, property, and freedom of movement of United States citizens and legal residents.

  21. @gT

    America basically just wants to commit suicide, as Shamir, or who ever it was, was writing about.

    You know who wrote “Suicide of a Superpower”? The author of this article.

  22. We dont need a cause in the world; we should just come home and let other nations fend for themselves but our governmental establishment is bent on world hegemony and domination; we should stop pretending Ukraine is a vital interest or that they will ever be in NATO or that we’re going to defend them against Russia; we should also tell the Taiwanese who only have 88,000 troops in their army because they believe we will come to their rescue to do what the North Koreans have done; build a huge Army and a Nuclear deterrent to deter China; Taiwan has about the same population as NK and is certainly more technologically and economically advanced; China is demonized and made to be a threat a rising Dragon when they are really a paper tiger; much is made of how China now has the worlds largest Navy; while that is made to make China appear more threatening; much of their Navy is junk; their two cast off aircraft carriers are junk and far inferior to American Flat tops; war with Russia would not be pleasant because unlike us they have a serious military and a very clever president; Putin has been in power for 21 years and has been smarter than each of the five US presidents he’s had to deal with; when he and Biden meet this month Biden will be dealing with a leader 10 years younger and one much more smarter; while China is an economic powerhouse it is a paper tiger militarily while Russia is a nuclear Superpower and a military powerhouse but has an economy smaller that Texas’; Isolationism is given a bad name but is the wisest course at this point in our history.

  23. Rurik says:

    According to the Biden Democrats of today, America’s goal is the preservation of “a rules-based international order,”

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  24. Ronald Reagan . . . once [told] an aide that his policy might be summed up as: “We win. They lose.”

    . . . George H. W. Bush said America would now lead mankind in the creation of “a New World Order.”

    Reagan thought the USA won WWII and did that, in no small measure, due to his activities: as a propagandist and cheer-leader.

    So did G H W Bush think that USA won WWII, in which the role he played as a fly-boy whose crisp uniform won the heart of Lady Fair Barbara, even if USA’s “victory” came about after bombing missions that were war crimes.

    USA “victory” in WWII was the model — romanticized, to be sure — of Reagan’s and Bush’s foreign policy.

    Donald Trump understood that Jews won WWII, and that chief among the Jews’s conquests was the USA, vanquished perhaps more handily than even Germany OR Palestine.

    Biden counts himself among those zionist victors of WWII: he celebrates and participates with them in the mopping-up action to show USA who is in charge.

    Blinken’s “rules based international order” sounds sorta kinda like G H W Bush’s New World Order, but it’s written in Talmudic Hebrew, not any Indo-Latin language a European-Ethnic American readily speaks.

  25. It was a mistaken and misguided idea right from the start, that America should even concern itself with having a cause for the rest of the world, OTHER than being an example to the world of what a decent economic system can do combined with a population of basically decent and honest citizens. I’m I suggesting something like isolationism first unless threatened? Now you got it.

    • Agree: Radicalcenter
    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
  26. @Rurik

    “A rules based international order.”

    “That’s not America’s business or right to decide for the rest of the world, simply because it will impose its idea of what those rules must be. What would be so bad about that? Well, just look at what Biden and the democrats “rules” are causing right here at home. Oh, I could elaborate on this with a ten thousand world essay but instead I will simply say/ask, enough said!!??

    • Replies: @Rurik
  27. “What Is America’s Cause in the World?”

    None, please.

    I want our country, the United States, just to be a normal country, concerned for the welfare of her citizens. No more missions! America is our home.

  28. @beavertales

    Of course but they didn’t WANT that to be one of the choices.

  29. “What is America’s cause in the world”?

    WHY does America need to have a “cause” in the world? What the hell for? Such nonsense has never troubled the citizens of Ireland, Norway, Switzerland, New Zealand, Costa Rica, etc. These are all peaceful, happy nice countries that just live normally in the world without a military industrial complex or a Zionist lobby. Americans don’t even have access to free health care.

  30. tyrone says:

    America’s cause in the world?? …..what about communist burning our cities ,trannies getting at our children,our borders being overrun …..there will be a war right here ,get ready.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  31. junk23 says:

    Should we energetically promote democracy worldwide, because it is the right and moral thing to do, though the American people clearly do not see this as America’s cause?

    This gave me a chuckle. Buchanan is living in a time capsule. There’s no democracy left to promote. The new ideology is pc-corporatism. No wonder the American people don’t care. At least he got that part right.

  32. MarkinLA says:
    @Franz

    Except the Founders explicitly said to maintain a navy. We do need to keep an eye on China and Russia (especially China) but don’t need to counter everything they do. Besides Xi seems to be screwing up China’s foreign policy all on his own.

  33. What is America’s cause? ‘Gay’ Day for D-Day. Yes, Bruce ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner is the go-to person for the issue of D-Day and WWII. Bunch of cowersatives.

    CAITLYN JENNER GETS EMOTIONAL DISCUSSING BIDEN’S ‘ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING’ D-DAY SNUB


  34. Daniel H says:

    What Is America’s Cause in the World?

    What our cause should be: to keep a republic. Simple agenda, no?

    • Replies: @another fred
  35. I love all of western culture-their history, their literature and culture, but America is my favorite. I don’t think of America as a nation but as an idea. Had it cultivated the same cader of men who founded this nation who came over on a boat armed with a vision and balls we’d be far ahead on the evolutionary progression chart by now. As it stands it is the sole superpower on this planet and will be at least for the next 50 odd years. I will not get into negativity and politics since that is all I am surrounded by. America should

    1.) Stay away from international interference. Mind their own business come what may.
    2.)Cultivate pride amongst its men and instill in them character and a need to be courageous, creative and adventurous. America should be the first nation on earth to land men on Mars in the future.

  36. The (((underminers))) decided the USA’s fate with the 1965 immigration act. They knew what it would do, which is why they used Chappaquiddick Kennedy as the face of the con.

    Secession of Red States is our only way forward.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  37. KenH says:

    A March survey of 2,000 registered voters, done by the Center for American Progress, reveals that most Republicans still share the foreign policy priorities of Donald J. Trump.

    That’s disconcerting since Trump’s foreign policy is primarily defined by Israel Uber Alles. The U.S. is is a vassal state of Israel so they tell us what our cause is.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  38. Alex420 says:

    America’s cause in the world ? EASY..to be Israel’s BITCH

    America, Canada, Australia, Germany, France, UK, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovenia and many others are OWNED by Israel lock stock and barrel

    There is NO America, there is ONLY Israel wrapped in an American flag

    Whatever respect I once had for the US, Canada and other assorted lapdogs is gone

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @MarkU
  39. America’s cause should be to bring home ALL of our troops and line them up our border with Mexico with orders to shoot to kill.
    Then we begin mass deportations of nonWhites and an END to third-world immigration to the U.S.
    If we DON’T do at least these two things, then any “cause” America might have will disappear along with America.
    At any rate, the reason for the existence of the United States is to create a decent place to live for the White people who founded, built and developed the U.S. before we were (((hoodwinked))) into all the 20th- and 21st-century wars that should have had nothing to do with us.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  40. @Daniel H

    What our cause should be: to keep a republic. Simple agenda, no?

    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams

    Too late.

  41. Corvinus says:
    @Ludwig Watzal

    “The Biden regime shouldn’t fool around with President Putin. He is the most rational actor on the international stage.”

    Putin is a Deep State plutocrat who orders his personal enemies to be poisoned. I would call that someone who is irrational.

    • Troll: tyrone
    • Replies: @Charlemagne
  42. Corvinus says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    “Secession of Red States is our only way forward.”

    All talk on your part. Pray tell, how do you expect to accomplish this monumental task?

    • Troll: tyrone
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  43. @KenH

    Everything was obscured by TDS. When Trump ran in 2016 I refused to vote for him because I was sure he planned to launch a war for Israel in Iran. That may actually have been his intent. But if it was, the hostility which he got from so many Jewish Democrats persuaded him otherwise. I think it’s very likely that if the majority of US Jews had simply taken an attitude towards Trump like they would have done with McCain if he had won in 2008, then we might very well have gotten a US attack on Iran.

    That’s why I’ve always said that behind TDS is Obama-AIPAC Schizophrenia. Many US Jews were thoroughly shocked by the conflict that went on between Netanyahu and the first black President. It was like they had spent decades of their lives dreaming about how the election of the first black President would be the triumph over white supremacy. When Obama actually was elected and it turned out that his main conflict over 8 years was with the Likud Party in Israel, then this really destroyed a whole world of fantasy for most US Jews.

    As a consequence and white Republican coming in after Obama simply had to be a white supremacist. To admit that a white Presbyterian Republican was actually more cozy with Netanyahu than Obama had been would have been traumatic for most US Jews. It wouldn’t have mattered if Trump had gotten ordered himself an inflatable doll of Trayvon Martin and bagged the doll on television a hundred times. Any white Republican who came in after Obama’s conflicts with the Likudnik simply had to a Hitler-loving neo-Nazi, blah, blah, blah.

    I think this was what prevented Trump from actually attacking Iran. He had a chance to see how sick in the head most of the group which he was so eager to please really was. I doubt that it cured him of his Judeophilia. But it undoubtedly dimmed some of his enthusiasm. I voted for Trump on 2020 because I was convinced that he would never be able to launch a war for Israel against Iran even if he wanted to, whereas I had and have some real concerns that Biden may lead the US into a “humanitarian mission” in Syria or somewhere else. If he tries that, the media will not give him the kind of scrutiny which Trump would have gotten.

  44. @Corvinus

    “Secession of Red States is our only way forward.”

    All talk on your part. Pray tell, how do you expect to accomplish this monumental task?

    Secession already exists. Red States and blue share nothing but common borders and oppression from the federal leviathan (which apparently exists to serve Israel.)

    Blue has decided ginormous government and high taxes is the solution to every problem. They espouse anarcho-tyranny: harsh totalitarian rule over the law-abiding while the criminal element runs amok. Blue states have made Whites the satan of their woke religion and gays and blacks the saints.

    Once Florida and/or Texas turn Blue from legal gimmegrants, rapefugees and invaders, the Uniparty charade is over. At that time Red states will have the choice of joining the communist collective or staying free.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  45. Zina says:

    America’s cause is endless propaganda that had rendered most Americans completely stupid and unable to see or face reality, including pretty much all the foreign policy establishment.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  46. Corvinus says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    “Secession already exists.”

    You don’t get to create your own definition when it suits your purposes. There is assuredly division in our country. There has been secessionist talk. But, no, it hasn’t happened at all.

    “They espouse anarcho-tyranny: harsh totalitarian rule over the law-abiding while the criminal element”

    We observably are a representative form of government. Words and concepts matter. You are just making up things as you go along.

    Again, what are you doing to lead the charge other than lament on a blog?

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Sick of Orcs
  47. Corvinus says:
    @Zina

    More like white Americans with their relative high IQs are making their own decisions about race and culture that you personally disagree with.

    • Replies: @Zina
  48. Since the last CAP survey in 2019, the greatest change is the reduced concern over “terrorist threats” from al-Qaida and ISIS. Fewer than 1 in 4 voters now view this as a top priority.

    Uh oh. Sounds like time for some more “terrorist attacks.”

    Or perhaps they could launch a War for Weather Stasis? That might work as a justification for wars for Israel… they should focus group test it.

  49. Zina says:
    @Corvinus

    Your reading comprehension is lacking, your answer is entirely irrelevant to my post.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @James Forrestal
  50. Trinity says:
    @Corvinus

    What are you doing besides hijacking threads, and just preaching negativism, (((Corvinus.))) Interesting name btw. I might choose to nickname you, ((((Captain Obvious Corvinus.))) Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself but your kind has no shame.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  51. Trinity says:

    Buchanan ’92. Go-Pat-Go

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  52. Corvinus says:
    @Zina

    No, my response is specifically addressing your baseless accusation.

  53. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    You can thank that terrible idiot Woodrow Wilson for that.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  54. @mijj

    Freedom Democracy Pursuit of Happiness All men created equal USA is exceptional

  55. @MarkinLA

    Is there anything dumber than a brainwashed Yank?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  56. @WorkingClass

    “The former is criminal. The later is victim. ”

    The victim who is repeatedly swindled by the criminal ceases to be a victim, he becomes an enabler. How can Americans whine about their government’s endless wars when they keep voting them into office, paying taxes that fund the MIC and sacrificing the lives of their young men?

  57. @MarkinLA

    Gosh,
    I live in the South China Sea area. Americans really don’t know what the rest of the world thinks of them. They believe what they want to believe. An Australian work colleague once said to me two decades ago “the Yanks live on a planet of their own”. I totally agree.

  58. whodat says:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/06/no_author/putin-us-walking-the-soviet-unions-path-and-its-gait-is-confident-and-steady/

    Putin has a vantage point to view our decline. Maybe listen .
    also google glubb-empire and down this reflection. Maybe we should get our self
    image more in line with the founders ideas, and forget the empire.

  59. Take away this Churchill; it has no relevance.

    • LOL: Greta Handel
  60. @Corvinus

    There is assuredly division in our country. There has been secessionist talk. But, no, it hasn’t happened at all.

    Because something “hasn’t happened” does not mean it will never happen. Right now the secession is one of values, not property.

    We observably are a representative form of government.

    And what a fine job it does!–representing globalist interests, Israel and communist lowlifes. The stolen election really adds confidence to the equation.

    It’s been observable for over a year police do nothing while yahoos tear down statues, loot and riot, but quickly arrest anyone who dares fight back. That is anarcho-tyranny.

    Again, what are you doing to lead charge other than lament on a blog?

    I needn’t do anything, secession is already here, as described. Blue states are beyond redemption. If you’re looking for a prediction of when things turn hot, here it is again:

    “Once Florida and/or Texas turn Blue from legal gimmegrants, rapefugees, invaders and now election fraud, the Uniparty charade is over. At that time Red states will have the choice of joining the communist collective or staying free.”

    I’m not happy about any of this, particularly losing to (((anti-White underminers))), but this is where and who we are now: America the Red and Clownworld the Blue.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  61. @anonymouseperson

    A really strange nurd. Only a character like Wilson and many people know the type, would write a poem like,

    “As a beauty, I’m not a great star, others are fairer by far, but my face, I don’t mind it, because I’m behind it, it’s the folks out in front that I jar.”

    Now, that’s a “real” joke when it comes to the nurd “perpetual university kid mentality type” who would congratulate themselves profusely for their phony self defacement and “modesty” while expecting roaring laughter from their like minded nurd friends.

    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
  62. ricpic says:

    Churchill also said “Beyond the channel it’s all Wogs.”

    The corollary for America is “Beyond our borders it’s all Wogs.” And that includes Canada.

    The nice way of putting it is Washington’s “No foreign entanglements.”

    And that’s what The People want. Needless to say what The People want has been completely overridden by what The Anointed want. Ergo we are mired in foreign dreck.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  63. MarkinLA says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Given your stupid response, it would be you. What exactly is China doing in the South China Sea that seems to be causing problems with everybody? Why are the Philippines mad?

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  64. MarkinLA says:
    @littlereddot

    Why are the Philippines, Malaysians, and Vietnamese upset about the Chinese “fishing fleets” down there?

    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
  65. @Corvinus

    Corvinus says, “Putin is a Deep State plutocrat who orders his personal enemies to be poisoned. I would call that someone who is irrational.”
    Proof please.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  66. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    You are certainly right about him being one strange character. A self-righteous and egotistical smart ass, his decision to take America into a war in Europe that had nothing to do with Americans who had just elected him on a slogan of peace (he kept us out of war) was catastrophic to the world.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  67. @MarkinLA

    They may well have valid reasons for being upset with China, but America should remain out of it.

  68. Corvinus says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    “Right now the secession is one of values, not property…I needn’t do anything, secession is already here, as described. ”

    You’re not even remotely employing the term accurately. Secession is defined as “the action of withdrawing formally from membership of a federation or body, especially a political state”.

    “It’s been observable for over a year police do nothing while yahoos tear down statues, loot and riot, but quickly arrest anyone who dares fight back. That is anarcho-tyranny.”

    Again, you are making up things as you go along. The term means “refers to armed dictatorship without rule of law”. Clearly, in numerous instances, the police have arrested protesters. Clearly, in numerous instances, prosecutors have charged offenders. And there is no “armed dictatorship” in our nation. You’re just embarrassing yourself here.

    “I’m not happy about any of this…”

    In essence, you’re willing to have your country get railroaded without even lifting a finger to stop it. When you are actually serious about intervening, let us know. Otherwise, you’re simply whining and complaining.

    • Replies: @tgordon
    , @Sick of Orcs
  69. @Zina

    He’s not even attempting to be coherent, let alone relevant. Just spewing virulent, unreasoning anti-White hatred in random directions… as usual.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  70. According to a news feed I just received Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri is declaring that “you really have to treat Russia like it’s virtually a criminal enterprise.” Maybe this is about to become “our” cause in the world?

  71. @Corvinus

    Putin did NOT ‘head’ the KGB. Corvinus ate its own droppings.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  72. @littlereddot

    I wish they did-say sixty million light years away.

  73. @MarkinLA

    The South China Sea abuts China’s coast. It is like China abusing the USA for being in the Gulf of Mexico. The Philippines were egged on by the USA, to take China to the Court of Arbitration. As an ‘arbitration’ court it is null if both sides are not present. China refused, by the Jap ‘Judge’ a mate of the fascist, Nanjing Holocaust denier, Abe, went ahead. He appointed judges from NATO countries, plus one from Ghana. The ‘Philippines’ case was TOTALLY controlled by the USA, with acquiescence from the Aquino stooge regime. Aquino’s grand-father, by the way, was the head of the Quisling regime under Jap rule during WW2. In other words, a crock of stinking Yankee Doodle shite, fit only to be consumed by racist cretins. Bon appetite!

  74. tgordon says:
    @Corvinus

    I can’t tell if you’re sincerely semantically “lost” or simply a troll. If you don’t/can’t understand Anarcho-Tyranny as espoused by Sam Francis which the previous commenters alluded to, simply Google “Sam Frencis Anarcho Tyranny.” I’ve got a feeling that you’d try to wrangle (((zome))) kind of semantic debunking of Francis’s Managerial State concept as well in order to “enlighten/disprove” some very reasonable threads. Like I said, I believe that you are either sincerely ignorant or a troll.

    • Thanks: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  75. tgordon says:
    @Corvinus

    Sorry Corvinus, referencing The Washington Post, ABC news or any other Western corporate media where anything regarding truth, reality, the world of grown ups, common decency, primary colors, the table of elements, etc., etc., (the list is as endless as their budgets and hubris) doesn’t cut it. You can do better Corvinus. I know you can. Keep trying.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  76. Corvinus says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Yes, he headed the the Federal Security Service (FSB), the primary intelligence and security organization of the Russian Federation and the successor to the KGB. Putin worked as a KGB foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. The fact remains that Putin is an integral part of the Russian Deep State.

  77. @anonymouseperson

    Absolutely. He was another leftist arm chair general. Here is something I’ve always found interesting on who was in office during America’s wars.

    WW 1 , Woodrow Wilson, democrat. WW 2 Franklin Roosevelt, democrat, Korea Harry Truman, democrat, Vietnam, Lyndon Johnson, democrat, Balkans conflict, Bill Clinton, democrat, Desert Strom, George Bush Jr. NEO-CON (former democrats on steroids).

  78. Corvinus says:
    @tgordon

    Actually, referencing legitimate sources does “cut it”. So rather than discount them completely, you have to offer a cogent rebuttal. That is how discourse works. Here is the advice of Ron Unz…

    I apply the same historical methods I did in my academic journal articles back in the 1980’s. You analyze the likely reliability of the raw information presented, look for confirming or refuting evidence, and then draw your own plausible conclusions…On a more serious note, many of my articles very heavily cite various MSM sources, so why would I do that if I believed they were always lying?

  79. @tgordon

    Troll, essentially.

    The Corvinus commenter(s) 98% of the time affects a Tom Parsons (George Orwell, 1984) credulity about Establishment narratives. The tone used to be Unitarian Sunday School teacher, and the standard tactic was saybacking, dissecting & dissembling what someone had said, never conceding anything. This apparently took too much effort, as the tone has become nastier, while the new standard retort is mocking opponents as keyboard warriors (“What will you do about it?”). There may have been or even be more than one Corvinus.

    However, Corvinus (along with Wizard of Oz, another troll) both seemed sincerely upset some time ago when defending the honor of Geoffrey Pyatt, the GQ looking “diplomat” who helped the Maidan Cookie Monster. If you want to see what I’m talking about, search for that name in comments under, as best as I recall, Giraldi columns.

    • Agree: tyrone
  80. Corvinus says:
    @James Forrestal

    Again, what do you exactly mean by “anti white”? You make that charge repeatedly without even clearly defining it.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  81. MarkU says:
    @Alex420

    Nearly right but you haven’t really got to the bottom of it. The real power is with the bankers. All those countries are Israels bitches as you say, because the bankers say so.

  82. @Corvinus

    Frankly Corvinus, I have no idea what you’re “crowing” about; what are you trying to accomplish here? Do you want to see the States united as before? Who is “railroading” us? What would I be trying to stop from happening?

    Secession of Red States is logical and desirable. While all states are plagued with (((underminers))) and a host of other problems, only Red States see America itself as good, and it’s values worth preserving.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  83. @Corvinus

    Bela Kun demonstrating yet again that fish don’t know that water exists. Ignorant, hate-filled individuals like him perceive their virulent, unreasoning hatred for the indigenous peoples of Europe as “natural,” even “normal,” rather than the sick, twisted psychopathology it so obviously is.

    Sad!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  84. Corvinus says:
    @James Forrestal

    You would think one of it’s rabid adherents would be ecstatic to explain exactly what “anti white “ means when asked. Just admit you lack the intellectual capacity and courage to define it.

  85. Corvinus says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    “Secession of Red States is logical and desirable.”

    For some people, absolutely. For others, not so much. Again, if you are so hell bent on achieving this goal, why don’t you lead the charge? I mean, prove your dedication.

    “only Red States see America itself as good, and it’s values worth preserving.”

    That’s the No True Scotsman fallacy in action.

  86. Your avoidance of stating your desired political goals has been duly noted.

    “Secession of Red States is logical and desirable.”

    For some people, absolutely. For others, not so much.

    “Hey, that’s my line!” –Cap’n Obvious

    Again, if you are so hell bent on achieving this goal, why don’t you lead the charge? I mean, prove your dedication.

    Never said I was hellbent on doing anything, and don’t have to do a thing to promote secession, only prep.

    “only Red States see America itself as good, and its values worth preserving.”

    That’s the No True Scotsman fallacy in action.

    Not really. I’m not refuting anything, just stating an opinion that happens to be right.

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