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When Donald Trump meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg today, the president should give him a direct message:

The roster of NATO membership is closed. For good. The United States will not hand out any more war guarantees to fight Russia to secure borders deep in Eastern Europe, when our own southern border is bleeding profusely.

And no one needs to hear this message more than Stoltenberg.

In Tblisi, Georgia, on March 25, Stoltenberg declared to the world: “The 29 allies have clearly stated that Georgia will become a member of NATO.”

As for Moscow’s objection to Georgia joining NATO, Stoltenberg gave Vladimir Putin the wet mitten across the face:

“We are not accepting that Russia, or any other power, can decide what (NATO) members can do.”

Yet what would it mean for Georgia to be brought into NATO?

The U.S. would immediately be ensnared in a conflict with Russia that calls to mind the 1938 and 1939 clashes over the Sudetenland and Danzig that led straight to World War II.

In 2008, thinking it had U.S. backing, Georgia rashly ordered its army into South Ossetia, a tiny province that had broken away years before.

In that Georgian invasion, Russian peacekeepers were killed and Putin responded by sending the Russian army into South Ossetia to throw the Georgians out. Then he invaded Georgia itself.

“We are all Georgians now!” roared uber-interventionist John McCain. But George W. Bush, by now a wiser man, did nothing.

Had Georgia been a NATO nation in 2008, the U.S. could have been on the brink of war with Russia over the disputed and minuscule enclave of South Ossetia, which few Americans had ever heard of.

Why would we bring Georgia into NATO now, when Tblisi still claims the breakaway provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, both of which Moscow controls and defends?

Are we not in enough quarrels already that could lead to new wars — with Iran in the Gulf, China in the South China Sea, North Korea, Russia in the Baltic and Black Sea, Venezuela in our own hemisphere — in addition to Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia where we are already fighting?

Among neocon and GOP interventionists, there has also long been a vocal constituency for bringing Ukraine into NATO.

Indeed, changes in the GOP platform in Cleveland on U.S. policy toward Ukraine, it was said, were evidence of Trumpian collusion with the Kremlin.

But bringing Ukraine into NATO would be an even greater manifestation of madness than bringing in Georgia.

Russia has annexed Crimea. She has supported pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass who seceded when the elected president they backed was ousted in the Kiev coup five years ago.

Kiev’s recent attempt to enter the Sea of Azov by sailing without formal notification under the Putin-built Kerch Strait Bridge between Russia and Crimea, proved a debacle. Ukrainian sailors are still being held.


No matter how supportive we are of Ukraine, we cannot commit this country to go to war with Russia over its territorial integrity. No Cold War president from Truman to George H. W. Bush would have dreamed of doing such a thing. Bush I thought Ukraine should remain tied to Russia and the Ukrainian independence movement was born of “suicidal nationalism.”

Trump has rightly demanded that Europeans start paying their fair share of the cost of NATO. But a graver question than the money involved are the risks involved.

Since the end of the Cold War, NATO has added 13 nations: the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, the Baltic states of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, and six Balkan countries — Bulgaria, Rumania, Slovenia, Croatia, Albania and Montenegro.

Also attending the NATO gathering in Tblisi a week ago were Sweden, Finland and Azerbaijan. Are these three also candidates for U.S. war guarantees?

The larger NATO becomes, the further east it moves, the greater the probability of a military clash that could lead to World War III.

Yet none of the nations admitted to NATO in two decades was ever regarded as worth a war with Russia by any Cold War U.S. president.

When did insuring the sovereignty and borders of these nations suddenly become vital interests of the United States?

And if they are not vital interests, why are we committed to go to war with a nuclear-armed Russia over them, when avoidance of such a war was the highest priority of our eight Cold War presidents?

Putin’s Russia, once hopeful about a new relationship under Trump, appears to be giving up on the Americans and shifting toward China.

Last week, 100 Russian troops arrived in Caracas. Whereupon, The Wall Street Journal lost it: Get them out of our “backyard.” The Monroe Doctrine demands it.

Yet, who has been moving into Russia’s front yard for 20 years?

As the Scotsman wrote, the greatest gift the gods can give us is to see ourselves as others see us.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Pat fretting about “war guarantees” again. Guarantees are worthless coming from Imperial Washington.

    • Replies: @anon1
    , @Bill Jones
  2. Anon[371] • Disclaimer says:

    Had Georgia been a NATO nation in 2008, the U.S. could have been on the brink of war with Russia over the disputed and minuscule enclave of South Ossetia, which few Americans had ever heard of.

    ”That same year, Canada led the campaign to admit both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. Had Canada been successful in that effort, the third world war would have either erupted in 2008 over South Ossetia, or in March 2014 over Russia’s annexation of the Crimea from Ukraine.”

    ”Which begs the question: If we already know that the Caucasus is a powder keg that Russia will not back away from, why are the U.S. and Britain sending in soldiers to simply stir the pot?”


  3. Let’s dump NATO now; I want to see an American on Mars before I die of old age.

    • Replies: @Dennis Revell
  4. anon1 says:

    What the USA should do is leave NATO.

    • Agree: RVBlake
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  5. anon1 says:

    Except for prestige. The loss of such was cited as a major reason for continuing the foolish war in Vietnam.

  6. Anonymous [AKA "Vandoo"] says:

    Re: NATO has added 13 nations: the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, the Baltic states of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia, and six Balkan countries — Bulgaria, Rumania, Slovenia, Croatia, Albania and Montenegro.

    Some new NATO bases are vital interests (Oil, drugs, weapons):

    Albanian-Macedonian-Bulgarian Oil (AMBO) Trans-Balkan Pipeline … to connect the oil-and-gas-rich Caspian Sea with Europe

  7. MarkinLA says:

    Not just leave but disband it. Let Europe reconstitute a security organization if they want to.

  8. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    African becoming Christian is not good. Too many Cucktians in the West will embrace black Christians.

    Look what black Christians did to Baltimore and Detroit.

  9. With only 1 [AGREE] per hour, I’ll just say the same to Anon1 and MarkinLA. Mr. Buchanan gets mired in the details. His point is sound that we will be committed to war over some of these places at a time when Russia is no threat to us (and should be a friend). I’ll gladly add Taiwan and S. Korea to places we should not be defending.

    Yes, Mr. Buchanan could have made gone back to the basics: NATO should have been disbanded at the end of the Cold War.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  10. George Kennan said that the eastward expansion of NATO after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact was a strategic blunder of epic proportions. I fully agree–NATO should have been disbanded after the end of the Cold War.

    I recently read that Donald Trump has suggested that Brazil might be admitted to NATO (because nothing says “North Atlantic” quite like Brazil).

    If, however, one considers NATO expansion not as a move by a defensive alliance, but rather as Imperial Washington seeking to add new vassal states, it kind of makes sense.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  11. Old Prude says:

    Agree. It’s startling to watch Leftie turn all interventionist. What happened to only buying bombers with funds from the bake sale? What other country sends its boys and girls and tranny queers to fight in foreign lands? We’ve been doing it for eighty years while normal countries keep their armies in their own lands. There is something wrong with us…We’re exceptional? Exceptionally foolish and exceptionally bankrupt, to be sure…

    • Agree: mark green
  12. Realist says:

    Trump Should Close NATO Membership Rolls

    Trump should do a lot of things….but he doesn’t.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Z-man
  13. Stick says:

    So we expand the EU reach in order to sell more Mercedes? Not sure this works for us.

  14. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    As always, beware Mr. Buchanan’s pronoun propaganda — “we, us, our” — that helps keep the American people deluded into seeing their interests as at one with the overseas ambitions of Uncle Sam. When it comes to matters outside his country, he’s a right-sizing imperialist.

  15. APilgrim says:

    President Trump should withdraw American Troops & security guarantees to cheapskates.

    If they are not spending more than 4% of GDP, & PAYING for protection, cut ’em loose.

    Europe is LOST to Muhammadans. Europe is dead, to US!

  16. It’s appropriate to recall the US reaction to Russian placement of (potentially) nuclear-armed missiles in Cuba. What, 1962? Our military advocated full invasion, and even blasting those pesky Cubans with a nuke weapon. It sure got our dander up.

    OK, now the US is about to put advanced cruise missiles close to the Russian border, a 12-15 minute flight time to Moscow. This is called baiting the Bear. Makes the Bear unhappy.

    You’d think the Germans, a mainstay of NATO, would object as the flight time to Berlin is even less than 12 minutes.

    Finland wants into NATO? Hmmm, what’s their flight time.

  17. Nations go to war over core interests, those that when undermined can result in an existential threat. That is the one reason a nation will go to war – for certain. There is no logic getting dragged into a conflict where there are only peripheral interests at stake, because the consequences can be the same. It is essential the nuclear powers – especially America, Russia and China – declare their core interests, whether it is a border that ‘is bleeding profusely’ or perceived encroachment by a hostile military alliance. The real challenge is preventing rivals’ interests clashing, where neither side can back down, because that will lead to the very war no one wants.

  18. @Joe Stalin

    – I’d like to see ALL AmeriKKKans on Mars before I die – war-mongering set of ultra-violent arrogant pr1cks that they are. (Though pity the poor Martians were there any).

    The Scotsman, quoted by Buchanan, almost got it right:

    “the greatest gift the gods can give us is to see ourselves as others see us.”

    EXCEPT better would have been:

    “the greatest gift the gods can give the whole world is for Americans to see themselves as others see them.”


    “Nothing will avail to offset this virus which is poisoning the whole world. America is the very incarnation of doom. She will drag the whole world down to the bottomless pit.”

    Henry Miller, Tropic of Cancer


    The creation of the United States of America has turned out to be the worst man-made catastrophe ever inflicted on human-kind; and, for that matter, most of the rest of animal-kind.

    Those at Echelon, GCHQ, MI6, NSA, CIA and similar fascists reading this post and ‘signature’, are referred to the profanity used by the sadly seemingly immortal lying manipulative War-Criminal, Mass-Murderer and Traitor Dick Cheney to some Democratic Party non-entity (as pretty much all the Democrats are).


    • Troll: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @follyofwar
  19. Rurik says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    NATO should have been disbanded at the end of the Cold War.

    we never should have joined it in the first place.

    We fought on the wrong side of WWII.

    We helped crush the only resistance to Soviet slavery in Russia, with its imperial sights set on Europe and the world.

    We delivered Eastern Europe over to the Fiend.

    And now it is that very same Fiend, (Zionism, / ((imperial central banking)), liberal-progressivism, anti-White genocidal hatred), that is on its inexorable march across the rest of Europe and the North American continent. (New Zealand and Australia too it seems)

    All that is due to our treachery and willingness to crush Germany during WWI, impose slavery through treachery on her for a generation, and then pound the stake in her heart during WWII.

    Thereby handing over the reins of the West to its most intractable and committed enemy – Jewish supremaci\$m.

    We are seeing the results of that terrible folly with every passing day.

    • Agree: anon1, Byrresheim
  20. @Dennis Revell

    Well, one thing we can see fully on display on Unz is what waste the US taxpayer has expended on Europe. Let Europe be. Let them stew in their America hatred, because I don’t really give a shit when the muzzies and blacks roll over you. You all need to go back to the state of being right before The Great War. Then us despised Yankees will just say “pass the popcorn” as we watch you kill each other with the Maxim gun, invented by an American so Euros could kill each other efficiently.

    • Replies: @Byrresheim
  21. we never should have joined it in the first place.

    NATO was formed to resist the Soviet Communist Bloc, not the Germans. I won’t argue your points about us being on the wrong side of WWII. One strategy could have been to make a deal with Hitler to keep the Nazis out of England and France in return for helping them invade the USSR. At least we could have pledged to stay out of the way, as the lack of a serious Western Front may have allowed them to get the job done on the Eastern Front.

    I also agree that boxing Germany into a corner with reparations after WWI was the cause for lots of trouble, with effects that we are feeling today.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  22. @JP Straley

    Finland wants into NATO?

    Finnish people don’t, Finnish leaders do. Support for NATO membership in 2018

    For 23 %
    Against 46 %

    Finland is consistently one of the most anti-NATO countries in Europe, actually before the Russia hysteria in the US started a few years ago Russians were more pro-NATO than Finns were. It’s location and history. There’s not a lot of trust in the promises of Great Powers and international alliances. Finns tend to think of NATO as just a mirror image of the Warsaw Pact – NATO Poland doesn’t seem much more independent than communist Poland.

    • Agree: Byrresheim
    • Replies: @Byrresheim
  23. @JP Straley

    That Golden Rule that you invoke in your comment here, Mr. Straley, is unfortunately not the same version of the Golden Rule adhered to by the elites of the world these days. Their version goes: “He who has the gold, makes the rules.”

    What some of these elites in the Western world have forgotten is that pieces of green paper or bits set in a database are not actually gold. That won’t be a problem for them until too many people catch on.

    Anyway, that was a good comment to illustrate the hypocrisy of the Neocons.

  24. Rurik says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, you’re right about that of course.

    Germany was (and still is) under occupation, so they were really the spoils of that war the Soviet fiend and the capitalist fiend were fighting over, like two hyenas or vultures, fighting over a dead lion.

    NATO was (and that was the gist of my comment) and is- effectively the western, capitalist side of the globalist fiend looting and enslaving the world’s people, and now menacing Russia – for having tossed off the Zio-yoke of Jewish supremacist slavery and genocide.

    Our participation in NATO is only further proof that we too are occupied.

    What’s amazing is that other nations are elbowing each other to be the next nation to willingly toss themselves under the bus of zio-occupation.

    NATO is slavery to the world’s central banking schemes.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  25. @Dennis Revell

    Why do you choose to ruin your own excellent comment with “KKK?” The use of KKK seems to be used by the Left (not saying that your are one) to indict ALL on the dissident right as Racist Nazis. Fact is, the alt/dissident/nationalist right are the groups most consistently anti-war, anti-intervention, anti-imperialist, and anti-neocon of all political groups.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
  26. Thirteen new nations added since NATO was formed? Those thirteen combined with the European charter nations are true paper tigers. Russia has no fear of them. The flip side is that one or more of those pussy cats could do something stupid and embroil us in a conflict with Russia. NATO may need us but we sure as hell do not need NATO.

    • Replies: @anon1
  27. @Rurik

    I really don’t understand the stupidity of most Euro countries embracing US/NATO and giving the finger to Russia. Their militaries are generally weak, and they are completely dependent upon the US bailing them out in case of conflict. Further, who would be the first countries wiped off the map if Russia was provoked and prodded to the point where they couldn’t take it anymore? Not only do these decadent and dying Euro countries (I know there are exceptions) have a death wish by inviting in millions from the Third World, but they also seem to be daring Russia to finish them off.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  28. Pat writes: “Russia has annexed Crimea.” Say what?

    Per Wikipedia: “Annexation is the administrative action and concept in international law relating to the FORCIBLE ACQUISITION of one state’s territory by another state.” Since the people of Crimea voluntarily voted by over 90% that they wanted no part of the “new,” non-democratic Ukraine, how does that meet the definition of an annexation? I thought for a moment that I was reading the words of the infamous air head Nikki Haley. Cut it out, Pat, you know better.

    As for his ubiquitious use of the word “we” when referring to the Washington psychos, I wish he would cut that out too. In place of the US, he used that word 6 times in his essay. Don’t implicate all of us, Pat, “we’re” not to blame.

    • Replies: @David
  29. @Jaakko Raipala

    And right the Finns are.

    Never forget the help Western powers gave you in the late thirties.

  30. @Joe Stalin


    Let us stew in whatever.


    By the way: nobody hates you. You’re not worth the emotion. Destroying Libya was a masterstroke, admitted.

  31. Anon[505] • Disclaimer says:

    Sorry to interrupt the circlejerk, but I am not aware of any US soldiers dying to protect a NATO country from a foreign invasion. I do know that Article 5 was used once, to send assorted Spaniards and Estonians to a pointless death in Afghanistan. (Btw, how is that “defense” against “aggression” working for you?)

    If anything, NATO members should kick out Americans, in order to achieve a modicum of mutuality. Alternatively, NATO could be recreated as US + Israel + Liberia + their Pacific colonies. Not that Israelis are mad about defending US, but there’s a sizeable number of future Israelis in the US army.

  32. anon1 says:
    @Simply Simon

    “NATO may need us but we sure as hell do not need NATO.”

    That could equally be said for South Korea, Japan, Taiwan and ultra-parasite Israel. Moated by two huge oceans and with two very weak neighbors, the USA IS (or should be) the most strategically safe country in the world.

    • Agree: Simply Simon
  33. @WorkingClass

    You should think of “War Guarantees” the same way as they do in Washington:

    “War Opportunities”.

  34. David says:

    I looked up annex in a couple dictionaries including my favorite, Webster’s 2nd. I don’t see anything saying that annexation needs to involve force. I acknowledge that I don’t have a dictionary of international law terms but international law is not the arbiter of English.

  35. Rurik says:

    I really don’t understand the stupidity of most Euro countries embracing US/NATO and giving the finger to Russia.

    it goes back to the WWII, and the Soviet occupation of their lands.

    Russia still clings to the absurd idiocy that the Red Army rapists were liberators of some kind, as they stomped Eastern Europe into the ground and kept a Soviet boot on them for generations.

    Whereas Poland and Ukraine and the Baltic states, etc.. remember all too well the Soviet atrocities and mind and soul-numbing slavery that is communism.

    So when the former satellite states decide to remove some vile monument or statue to the Soviet period that profanes their sacred soil, or honor their fallen heroes who died fighting the Soviet fiend, all they hear is menacing screeching from Russians, whose fragile vanity is hurt by the truth (that the Red Army rapists didn’t liberate anyone, and that the reverse was the actual case).

    It is this very rift in the ‘narrative’, that the Fiend, ((Victoria Nuland, et al)) are cynically manipulating to cause further strife in those regions, even using actual neo-Nazis in Ukraine in their campaign to provoke Russia.

    All Russia would need to do is publically repudiate the Soviet horrors and genocidal slavery for what it was; a terror imposed upon Russia and everyone else under its yoke, by the Zio-International banking cabal of Globohomo/Jewish supremacism.

    But Russians are far too enamored of their status as “liberators”. It makes them feel warm and fuzzy about themselves, and allows them to pooh-pooh the Germans who they’ve always resented and envied.

    So the chances of Russians ever allowing themselves to acknowledge that the Red Army were not liberators, but rather the opposite was the truth, is basically nil. Nyet.

    Better to bring on WWIII, than take a hit to your precious but misplaced ultra-nationalistic conceits.

    Imagine an American or British “greatest generation” WWII vet admitting to himself that he fought on the wrong side of that war.

    As England descends into the mire of ethno-strife, (obviously under the careful auspices of Jewish supremacists), do you think in a million years a WWII vet could ever muster the strength of character to admit that what he did to Germany was wrong, and that Germany was fighting the heroic fight against the very Fiend that is currently genociding the British people off their island for all eternity?

    Very few would have the strength of character to admit that (obvious by now) fact.

    Most would rather see their grandchildren ‘Rotherhamed’, than admit that they were the aggressors and murderous monsters during WWII. (or the Boer war or any of the other misadventures they perpetrated on behalf of International Jewish supremacism).

    What people won’t do to protect their cherished, pumped up view about their respective ‘greatness’, even when those narratives are manifestly absurd and fly in the face of all known truths that are brutally obvious today.

    The good news is that Hungary, and other states, are moving into Russia’s orbit, even after suffering during the Soviet horrors.

    So perhaps there’s some small shred of hope.

    Putin can do a lot by telling Eastern Europe that it’s OK for them to take down the hated monuments, and honor their fallen heroes.

    The people of Ukraine would do well to see how cynically they’re being used by the Fiend as future cannon fodder.

    Rapprochement is the key to emasculating the Fiend;

    ((who’s)) trying very hard to start a war in Eastern Europe (or Venezuela or somewhere!) vs. Russia.

    • Agree: anon1, byrresheim
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Liberty Mike
  36. bluedog says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    It wasen’t a blunder on our part, just think of the MIC and all the weapons they could sell to the NATO countries,all the new outpost created for the empire against the same old boggy man Russia.!!!

  37. MarkinPNW says:
    @JP Straley

    It was several years afterwards that it was disclosed that the Cuban Missile Crises was actually a Russian reaction to NATO (the US) putting missiles in Turkey at a base closer to Moscow than Cuba was to Washington, and the resolution of the crises included a secret guarantee that the US would pull out its’ missiles as the Russians pulled out theirs, with verification.

    • Agree: byrresheim
  38. AWM says:

    You know, there is actually absolutely nothing wrong with having your enemies so comprehensively outgunned that your own security is not even under question.

  39. Abolish NATO. Roll back the Empire.

  40. Z-man says:

    Rurik, that picture of walrus face Bolton, especially when not expected, was not appreciated. It was a shock top my system.(Grin)

    • Replies: @Rurik
  41. Z-man says:

    Let’s hope people like Pat Buchanan and Tucker Carlson have Trump’s ear.

  42. Rurik says:

    and I specifically used a pixelated image to lessen the discomfort and irritation !

  43. @Rurik

    While visiting Mother Russia as a 22 year old student when it was still called the USSR, for short, I was befriended by a man who, in retrospect, had to have been either KGB or Russian mob (I know, redundant).

    I first met this man in Moscow and told him that my student group would be going to Leningrad. I did not tell him the day we were departing Moscow nor did I tell him at which hotel we would be staying.

    We were in Moscow for 6 days before we took the midnight train to Leningrad. The septuagenarian Intourist guide assigned to our study group took a liking to me. I think she liked my playful anti-authoritarianism as manifested by my impromptu playing of the Soviet national anthem on a piano located in GUM. She also liked my daily addition of a dozen or more poly-syllabic Russian words to my vocabulary. I was constantly fucking up the declensions, but, if Russian women like you, they tend to demonstrate it by correcting you.

    At any rate, when we got to Leningrad, we made our way to the European Hotel, off of Nevsky Street. Although my parents had paid for shared accommodations, I was assigned a suite, with my own private bathroom and a piano. Being yourself can pay dividends.

    So, a few days later, the man, Alexander, was waiting for me in the hotel lobby. Over the next 8 weeks, he showed me a hell of a time. He ALWAYS had a wad of Benjamins. Sometimes, he had a wad of pounds or deutsche-marks.

    One thing he did not like was anything ((( ))). One night he took me to visit a comrade. As soon as his friend opened the door, the friend gave us an exuberant Heil Hitler salute. The friend’s apartment was festooned with Nazi iconography. BTW, this is the winter of 1985, and all around the Soviets were celebrating the liberation of the siege of the city. Both Alex and his friend told me that there were thousands of Russians who detested the Jews, particularly all of the communist Hebrews.

    One night, we went to a play. In the Soviet days, full employment was achieved by having a plethora of coat-takers at public places such as concert halls and three babuschkas in every room at the museums and palaces.

    So, one coat-taker was an older chap, about five feet tall, who was in full military dress. When we checked in, Alex muttered an epithet about the “hero” and on the way into the play he said the guy was a dirty jew.

    After the play, Alex hurled more epithets directly at the midget hero, including that the guy was a “jewish coward.” I added, in Russian, that “Lenin was a fool” and that “Stalin was a fool” and that “Brezhnev was a fool.” The old guy started yelling at us and challenged us to a fight – right in front of everybody. He had to be restrained by three or four fellow coat-takers.

    We should not underestimate the enmity that many Russians have for the merchants in the temple. There must be millions of ordinary Russian folks who resent what happened to their country. It is something that I witnessed first hand.

  44. Why doesn’t the deaf, dumb and blind Pat Buchanan ever identify the elephant in the room?
    You sir are now quite old and should have nothing to fear.
    The tail, leg, trunk, ear or tusk will tell you Sir, that’s it’s the Zionists who are leading your country to destruction.

  45. Anonymous [AKA "Prisoner of the Cold War"] says: • Website

    The unnecessary existence and expansion of NATO is the threat to the humankind and to Russia and the USA in particular !
    (says Sr Lt of the Soviet Army reserve – a citizen of Russia)

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