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“I don’t know if he’ll run in 2024 or not. But if he does, I’m pretty sure he will win the nomination.”

So says Mitt Romney, the sole Republican senator to have voted twice to convict President Donald J. Trump of impeachable acts.

But is it possible Trump could win the nomination in 2024?

What does history teach us about Republican presidents who, after losing the White House, come back to win it again?

Well, to be frank, there is no such history.

Consider. Four Republican presidents in the 20th century were defeated while seeking a second term. None was nominated again.

William Howard Taft lost the White House to Woodrow Wilson in 1912, and even ran behind the third-party “Bull Moose” candidate, ex-President Theodore Roosevelt. Taft never ran again but went on to serve as chief justice of the United States.

Ex-President Teddy Roosevelt was considering running again in 1920 but died at 60 in January of 1919 at Sagamore Hill.

After President Herbert Hoover lost to FDR in 1932, he never ran again.

Gerald Ford, serving out Nixon’s second term, lost to Jimmy Carter in 1976 and packed it in for good, as did President Carter after losing to Ronald Regan in 1980.

George H. W. Bush lost the White House in 1992 and retired from electoral politics, never to run again.

As for Trump running in 2024 and winning the GOP nomination, he does hold high cards no other ex-president held, except perhaps Roosevelt.

Trump has a vast and loyal following. Currently three-fourths of all Republicans see him as their leader. He won 74 million votes, the highest total ever for a sitting president or a losing presidential candidate.

Their loyalty is traceable to what Trump achieved, whom and how he fought, and the new issues he introduced and has become indelibly associated. Foremost among these is his struggle to secure the Southern border against endless illegal migrant crossings.

Unrestricted immigration from the South, the Third Worldization of America, is the true existential threat “climate change” purports to be.

Trump also succeeded in enacting the traditional GOP platform of low taxes and deregulation, producing record-low unemployment — before the pandemic hit in March 2020.

His record of elevating strict constructionists, constitutionalists and conservatives to the federal courts, and three Supreme Court seats, is unrivaled in the history of the modern Republican Party.

Trump also forged a bond with Middle America by taking on a media whose treatment of him was remorselessly hateful and hostile. “We love him for the enemies he has made,” it was said of Grover Cleveland.

He brought a new and unique agenda to the GOP.

He replaced a free trade globalist ideology with nationalism. He set out to rebuild America’s depleted manufacturing base and restore her economic independence. Under Trump, the slogan “America First” came to represent a new foreign policy where rich and prosperous allies carried more of the burden of their own and the common defense.

He wanted Americans to do their nation-building here in the USA.

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While Beltway Russophobes prevented Trump from achieving the rapprochement he wanted, and he failed to extricate us from the forever wars of the Middle East, he did drawdown U.S. forces in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, and keep us out of an all-out war with Iran.

There is thus a specific Trumpian agenda, with which he is alone associated, that is becoming the issues agenda of the conservative movement and the party base, if not the party elites.

Yet, the drawbacks to a Trump nomination remain major.

He did, after all, lose in 2020. And he has been damaged by the months-long battle since to prove that Biden was the beneficiary of a stolen election. The Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol by MAGA militants was blamed on Trump and became the article of his second impeachment where every Democratic senator and six Republicans voted to convict him. And even some of those who voted to acquit, like Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, declared him guilty of inciting the mob.

Moreover, Trump faces a blizzard of legal challenges and charges that will damage his reputation, his businesses and him, personally.

In 2024, Trump will turn 78, the age Joe Biden is today. And between now and 2024, there is sure to be considerable attrition in support among the 74 million who voted for Trump.

But if Romney is right and Trump has the kind of strength that could make him the nominee in 2024, that strength will surely be sufficient to veto or sink any potential nominee who does not have the former president’s blessing.

And, from seeing both candidates of 2020 up close in recent weeks and months, does not Trump appear more likely to be the Republican leader of his party than does slow-moving “Sleepy Joe” look like the Democratic nominee 44 months from now?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Wyatt says:

    Doesn’t matter. Dems cheated in 2020 and the media covered it up. They’ll cheat again because they got away with it and they know they can. This soon to follow:

    • Troll: Corvinus
  2. I don’t know, but seeing from afar, I’d rather say Donald Trump is history. Physically he already lost a bit of his sharpness and presence (his last public speeches were not – perfect, I might say, anymore. He did not find his tone, got stuck in repetitions. – You never saw him like that in 2015.) Plus, as you wrote, Mr. Buchanan, Donald Trump was defeated in 2020. Bad karma, so to speak.

  3. Binyamin says:

    Our former Toddler-in-Chief would sure get the nomination in 2024 if he went for it. This is because in the last five years the once great Republican Party has been massively infiltrated at grassroots level by hard right extremists, a mixture of paranoid conspiracy theorists and worryingly, violent fantasists. The sight of the absurdly named (and dressed) QAnon day Shaman and the pro slavery southern flag inside the Capitol building on 6th Jan summed up what has gone wrong with the Republican party. On that day, a staggeringly large number of republican lawmakers voted to cancel the outcome of a peaceful democratic election. Look, Trump is the original RINO. He had been a Democrat all his life until the eve of Obama’s first term and even contributed to Hillary’s campaign during the primaries. The opportunist Trump jumped ship in his old age and joined the republican bandwagon and muscled his way through the primaries to become top dog. No doubt future historians will burn midnight oil while trying to figure out how on earth did a narcissistic businessman with no deep attachment to the Republican movement and no experience as a politician managed to get the party’s nomination?
    The hard reality is, the shock of Obama’s victory caused seismic shifts in the republican movement at grassroots level. The Republican party increasingly became dysfunctional. The Tea Party movement was an unfortunate reaction to the Obama presidency because frankly, the sight of a black man in White House caused existential anguish to scores of republicans, many of whom would swear on their mother’s grave that they held liberal views on race. I suppose this is a variation of the old saying- you are a liberal until your daughter dates a black man.
    How can the Republican party rid itself of the Trump Show, a horror show if there ever was one? I suggest they learn from William Buckley. What is needed is a brutal purge of all hard right anti democratic extremists from the republican ranks. As long as it is legal, no prisoners should be taken. Unless the republican establishment declare total war on the extremists, they are fucked.

  4. Trump needs to be barraged with criminal court cases until they find something that sticks.

  5. Trump was the do nothing president, with the possible exception of tweeting.

    Although the deck was stacked against him, he didn’t use his position as he could have to bring all the overseas troops home on his say so alone as commander in chief. He also picked the worst people to hire to work on his behalf. Any economic gains or losses on his watch are the delayed reaction to policies from numerous prior administrations because no economy turns on a dime.

    Face it, either he’s the most incompetent boob there ever was, or he’s part of the plan to ruin the nation. I think he’s generally incompetent but with a zeal to give Israel whatever it wants.

    • Agree: Ralph B. Seymour
    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Realist
  6. “And he has been damaged by the months-long battle since to prove that Biden was the beneficiary of a stolen election. ”

    No one has to technically prove any such thing. The way the institutions used the fake “Covid” scam to cancel real voting and put the “election” under the control of machines systematically programmed to generate fake pro-Dem results is proof enough.

    But Trump is a do-nothing wimp who in four years never lifted a finger to organize a movement outside the government-party structure. Anyone who wants real nationalistic change needs to get working on that and not sit there waiting for Trump.

    • Agree: Radicalcenter
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Corvinus
  7. Why should I vote for this guy again? Just to watch him surround himself with treasonous subversives again? There’s no evidence that he learned any lessons from appointing idiotic cabinet members and advisers like Kushner, Pompeo, Abrahms, and Bolton.

    I doubt I’ll ever vote again. Going to move out in the middle of nowhere and keep to myself. America is past the point of solving problems with voting.

    • Agree: Realist, GazaPlanet
  8. @Binyamin

    Are (or were) you a member of the now disgraced Lincoln Project, Binyamin?

  9. saggy says:

    Their loyalty is traceable to what Trump achieved, whom and how he fought, and the new issues he introduced and has become indelibly associated. Foremost among these is his struggle to secure the Southern border against endless illegal migrant crossings.

    LOL.

  10. Realist says:
    @RoatanBill

    Face it, either he’s the most incompetent boob there ever was, or he’s part of the plan to ruin the nation.

    As I first said in mid-April 2017, Trump was and is a minion of the Deep State…his presidency was a sham…a con. As you say; Although the deck was stacked against him, he didn’t use his position as he could have to bring all the overseas troops home on his say so alone as commander in chief. He also picked the worst people to hire to work on his behalf..

    No one could be that incompetent over such a time period.

    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  11. Realist says:
    @Flying Dutchman

    The way the institutions used the fake “Covid” scam to cancel real voting and put the “election” under the control of machines systematically programmed to generate fake pro-Dem results is proof enough.

    Yes, the Covid pandemic was a scam, but Trump was a part of it…he is a sham.

    Anyone who wants real nationalistic change needs to get working on that and not sit there waiting for Trump.

    This country’s problems will not be solved through the electoral process.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @Flying Dutchman
  12. Jeb Bush or HRC. Those were your other choices in 2016.

    One of the two would be entering their second term right now. The MAGA movement would not exist, and the progressive globalist agenda would have been in the mopping up phase of consolidating their unchallenged victory in the culture war.

    This is why the oligarch establishment lost their minds and stole the election in plain sight. They were hurting. They see the collapse of their project on the horizon, and they needed to act.

  13. Biden was much sharper mentally in 2016 than he is today. If he had had the courage to run then, he would have beaten Hillary in the primaries, and Trump would never have been elected. But, he was scared off by the Clinton Machine. It was Hillary’s “turn” (Ha, Ha). I never bought his sob story that he was too overcome by the death of his son Beau in 2015 (from brain cancer) to mount a campaign. Per Joe, on his deathbed Beau begged him to run.

    Fast forward to today, and Old Joe, now 78, is a mere shell of his former self – which wasn’t that great to begin with. A man of such age-related mental deficiencies should have never been allowed to run for the country’s highest elected office. His overly ambitious wife, DR. Jill, who knows Joe’s condition better than anyone, is guilty of elder abuse.

    Those who still want Mr. Trump to run again should consider Joe’s cautionary tale. Trump, 74 at the end of his term, was not the same man he was in 2016. His further erosion in the next four years could be fast or slow, but erode he will.

    We must move beyond the failed Boomers, and, to paraphrase JFK, pass the torch to a new generation. Trump would be wise to not embarrass himself by running again. There are much better candidates (Rand Paul, for one) he’d be holding back if he does. Hopefully Melania has the good sense to tell him she’s had it, and, if he runs again over her objections, I hope she’ll save herself and leave.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  14. Jim Smith says:

    Buchanan says, “He did, after all, lose in 2020.” He did NOT “lose the election.” Every metric suggests the election was stolen, yet the courts uniformly refuse to hear evidence. Why? Democrats should be eager for proof showing the election was fair. Yet they are uniformly opposed. Why?

    • Replies: @Sulu
  15. If Trump was actually a part of something, he’d find a protégé and use the existing following to build support.

    But Trump is a self-interested personal brand, so he’s not going to put much effort into transferring any of his considerable remaining weight.

    Even if someone were to come along who could make use of Trump’s pros and avoid some of his many cons, it would be difficult to get Trump on board because he’s just never going to be as enthusiastic about anything that doesn’t put Trump first.

    So someone with the best interests of the country will have to fool him and use him more expertly than the opposition has. Someone who can navigate both Trump’s ego AND the combined powers of DC and news and tech without being totally compromised in the process. What are the chances of someone like that coming along?

    It’s a serious long shot, but it’s the only way forward from here.

  16. Taft was a practical man who would have never signed the Federal Reserve Act and the Income Tax. He knew the harm it would cause the country. That is why the Khazarians put the academic in office in preparation for WW1. As typical of academics, Wilson realized his mistake too late.

    Herbert Hoover, a ruthless mining engineer who previously worked for the Rothschilds, gathered up almost all documents about WW1 from desperate European governments in exchange for food in the 1920s. He transferred trainloads of these documents to Stanford where special Khazarian scholars managed the documents to write a history of the war, specifically to hide who was really responsible for it. It was the Khazarians, not Germany. The Khazarians prepared for the war ten years in advance on a template based on their Boer Wars. Hoover was later awarded the Presidency for his service to them.

    Papa Shrub controlled the WH for 28 years: Reagan, Shrub, Bill, and Boy George. He was the real mastermind in 2001. The swamp consists of Clinton Democrats and Bush Republicans. They never want a President like Trump to be elected by the people again.

    I enjoyed Pat’s book. He rightfully demonstrated how Churchill was responsible for WW2. However, Churchill was in the Khazarians’ camp before WW1. He was heavily indebted and led a life that could be extorted. Perhaps Pat could not get too close to these truths, because he is famous and influential, and he would be censored into oblivion. Because of his age, he may not be comfortable with the new reality of the internet being a source of truth as we have all been brainwashed by the corrupt “educational” system.

    https://stateofthenation.co/?p=52306

    • Replies: @Shango
  17. @beavertales

    The “oligarch establishment” didn’t lose their minds. It’s all going according to plan. Klaus Schwab told us so in his book, “The Great Reset,” published a mere two or three months from the time reporting on the Covid-19 plan-demic took over the mainstream media. He must have written it beforehand.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  18. @Binyamin

    The Democratic party has become the whores of big tech and control ALL of the U.S.’s big Institutions. It is anti-white and seeking to destroy all influence of European Americans in the country they created. Any white person at this point that supports the democratic party, is an extremely deluded white person, regardless of their age or gender. After all of the anti-white comments of Democrats like Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, Warren, Clinton and so many other democrats, one could only conclude that many rank and file democrats have left the democratic party and these people are not radical in any way as you falsely believe. They are simply doing what’s best for themselves and their friends and families. Call it a “survival mechanism”…

  19. I would like to see Trump stand up a Populist Republican candidate for every open office in the mid-terms. He could hold YUUUGE rallies for them in thier home states.

    Or – I would like to see a new third party. The Orange Party. Or how about The American Labor Party. We should be able to pick off a few of Bernies Bros with that one. The Democrats would win or steal everything of course. But they will do that anyway and it would be fun to see the GOP come in a distant third.

    What I would not want to see is Trump as candidate for office. With one possible exception. Rubio is up for re-election in ’22. An Orange Senator from Florida would definately set a cat among the pigeons. But Rubio would have to be bought off. Actually running against him would be – unseemly.

    None of it matters much. Nothing good can come from the District of Corruption with or without Trump’s participation. He could retire. Play golf. Eat cheeseburgers. Grab pussy. Maybe start a reality TV show. The Deplorable Apprentice.

    Teach your children it’s Okay to be White.
    Stop the hate.
    Separate.

  20. bayviking says:

    Did the author forget that Nixon lost by a hair to Kennedy (possibly in a real rigged election), but ran after Kennedy was assassinated and won, based largely on the promise to pull us out of Vietnam, which was a bold faced lie?
    Trump was along for the ride when Republicans were finally able to ram through the ill conceived Paul Ryan Tax Bill for the rich which has deprived most Americans of the right to deduct moving expenses to a remote job in an increasingly unstable domestic job market. This disastrous legislation has continued the 40 year trend of transferring all tax burden on to the working class.
    While regulation, in the hands of a bureaucrat, has a tendency to take on a life of its own, completely isolated and often larger than its original purpose, we all need clean, water and healthy food to live. Trump only cared about Corporate profits, especially his own.
    The so called strict constructionists, constitutionalists and conservatives of the federal courts overturned the 2000 election as a partisan favor for our second worst President ever. McConnell deserves most of the blame for this horrendous outcome due to his vicious logically inconsistent power grabs, which have set back the slow progress mankind has achieved in promoting the best interests of productive working people against the lazy selfish wealthy owners of land and other means of production. I will grant you that that was what our founding fathers intended but contrary to the story they use to start every war.
    Trump certainly proved to be an effective manipulator of the Evangelical Christians and minimum wage and jobless workers, particularly from the rust belt. His appeal to neo Nazis and Southern embittered racists is unequaled.
    While Trump correctly shown light on how weak and misinformed most of us are on account of a deliberate campaign to keep us all weak and misinformed by the mass media, he was in fact their most ardent fabricator of lies. Trump’s treatment of other candidates and anyone that disagreed with him was off the charts hostile, hateful and vengeful, sometimes involving using paid stalkers and more often litigating the opposition into bankruptcy.
    He brought a new and unique agenda to the GOP. Can’t disagree with that statement Its one of the reasons man people thought he would actually effect the real change everyone wants, which is regularly promised now during campaigns, but never delivered..
    He replaced a free trade globalist ideology with nationalism, which is frequently a precurser to more war.
    He gave many people the impression he would rebuild America’s depleted manufacturing base and restore her economic independence. He promised a large program of infrastructure building but never got around to it. He was always to busy tweeting, golfing and gulping junk food to ever have time to be President.

    • Troll: Rurik
  21. Rurik says:
    @follyofwar

    The “oligarch establishment” didn’t lose their minds. It’s all going according to plan.

    I didn’t read The Great Reset, follyofwar, but I tend to agree with beaver that they were indeed losing their minds.

    Look how long it took the Biden regime to bomb Syria? Just days into the new regime’s administration. And I suspect that was done to broadcast what is going to be a return to the Obama regime’s agenda of destabilizing Syria. I think they were furious, and beside themselves with rage that Trump had tried to bring our troops home. And perhaps even worse, he made white Americans feel good about themselves. This isn’t just fingernails on a chalkboard, this is acid dripping on their souls. Maxine and Nadler were ready to explode. Nadler did even. The war pigs were inconsolable. Rage doesn’t describe it.

    I bet this guy

    would like to spend the rest of his life torturing Donald Trump, as would all the CNN and media whores and liars and ‘intelligence’ apparatchiks that Trump mocked and humiliated with so much relish. I hope he continues to do that. It was one of my favorite things about Trump.

    As for Trump, I’d like to see him use his influence to destroy the careers of every Republican that went against him. Mitt, Cheney, McConnell and all the rest of them.

    For all of Trump’s failings, the one thing I can say about him is that his enemies were my enemies.

    The media, the Democrats, the Never-Trump Republicans, all.

    Hopefully the next election will be a massacre for Mitt and Cheney and everyone like them. In that role, as destroyer of Republicans, Trump can serve a very useful purpose.

    As for running again, I certainly hope not. He should sit on the sidelines and play power-broker to his supporters. If a candidate surfaces to challenge Marco, then perhaps Trump can play a roll in Marco’s overdue demise. Now that he’s not running, he can support candidates like Kris Kobach, if for no other reason than to see his (and my) enemies writhe in their bile and contort in heaves of agony.

    I don’t think anyone or anything is going to restore the Republic, at this point. Demographics are destiny. White America, and any hope for a sane return to Constitutional governance, is now completely doomed.

    All we can hope for at this point is that the asshats in congress, will demand so many trillions be lavished on all their assorted projects – reparations and such, that the dollar will collapse – sooner, rather than later.

    Perhaps something can be built on the ashes like a Phoenix. But until then, I’m just going to hope that scum like Mitt and Cheney, see their political ambitions turn to dust.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Sulu
  22. What does it matter? Even after being whipped and rammed in the ass by Jewish Power, the first thing out of his mouth on the trail will be ‘Muh Israel’.

  23. @Realist

    I suggest Trump is both stupid and in on the the scam.

    In any event, you can believe he is controlled by Jewish money. He’s been bankrupt many times and yet his Jewish bankers keep him propped up.

    Trump is supposedly a billionaire and he may in fact control a billion dollars worth of assets. But I suspect Trump’s debt load may actually exceed the value of his assets. Especially now that Covid has ruined the hotel business.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Ugetit
  24. @Binyamin

    Amazing you think recucklicans are a second, opposing party to democrooks. Rs are as authentic as pro-wrasslin’ heels.

  25. Realist says:
    @Ralph B. Seymour

    I suggest Trump is both stupid and in on the the scam.

    Excellent points. He may be stupid and a traitor to the majority of Americans.

  26. Ugetit says:
    @Ralph B. Seymour

    He’s been bankrupt many times and yet his Jewish bankers keep him propped up.

    Interesting that you should mention that because Strutting Winnie (Churchill) was apparently in a similar situation and Woozy Woodie (Wilson) would have been in a bind without similar support.

    I wish I knew what they had on the fool, FDR, but whatever it was it must’ve been good, because he handed the goons everything they wanted as well.

    • Replies: @Charles Carroll
  27. I want to puke. ANYONE who engages in a Republican vs Democrat dialogue is a mentally compromised idiot (by their own choosing). It is amazing that normally intelligent commentators on this blog descend into childlike idiocy when picking up the themes of what if or what could have been with (inevitably, subsequently) corrupt individuals.

    Paddy is talking abut Trump? Who has more frequent diaper service now? Diaper Buchanan is now endorsing diaper trump?

    And idiots commenting on this thread treat the situation as legitimate. Is there anyone in a nation of 333 million under 80 willing to run for President? Why not?

    Trump 2028 !

    Cheers-

  28. Trump has a vast and loyal following. Currently three-fourths of all Republicans see him as their leader. He won 74 million votes, the highest total ever for a sitting president or a losing presidential candidate.

    “Horror vacui” – This is more indicative of a stagnant pond, meaning the lack of viable alternative options within our neo-liberal derived “sacred two party system” (/s).

    Something or someone will take up said space, and stale ranks of contenders, or non-commitals = stasis.

    Trump also succeeded in enacting the traditional GOP platform of low taxes and deregulation, producing record-low unemployment — before the pandemic hit in March 2020.

    The Trump formula was driving the Fed Reserve to conjure massive tranches of money and smother in its crib any last vestige of market risk. This works.. for a while, until the Republican method of whistling past the deficit graveyard fails. That’s not financial genius, its a musical chairs variant in which the select few get to remain seated.

    He replaced a free trade globalist ideology with nationalism. He set out to rebuild America’s depleted manufacturing base and restore her economic independence. Under Trump, the slogan “America First” came to represent a new foreign policy where rich and prosperous allies carried more of the burden of their own and the common defense.

    The end result was to declare victory and return to the status quo. The China trade war resulted in a lot of verbal posturing intended for mass consumption, but it factually ended in Kush simply restoring the Chinese preferential arrangement. Similarly, which Maquiladores were shuttered, and returned to their domestic points of origin = 0.

    Politically valuable (to Repubs) US industrial Ag interests were paid off with a whole new class of Corporate ‘Farmer Welfare’ until restored their anointed right to global sales of raw commodities, while US Manufacturing was quietly thrown overboard, again.

    Who took my Buchanan, and what did they do to him?

  29. onebornfree says: • Website

    “Trump — Once and Future King?”

    Everything not forbidden is compulsory”― T.H. White. [from:”The Once and Future King”]

    Would that [“ENFIC”] be Trumps new motto ? Wouldn’t surprise me. 😎

    See:”You,Trump,Sanders Etc., Vs “Dictator Syndrome”:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2015/08/do-you-suffer-from-dictator-syndrome.html

    Regards, onebornfree

  30. Sulu says:
    @Jim Smith

    Democrats should be eager for proof showing the election was fair. Yet they are uniformly opposed. Why?

    The Democrats are uniformly opposed for the simple fact that the election fraud was on such a massive scale and at the same time so transparent that the slightest effort by the courts to find evidence of election would have found it in abundance.

    I can’t help but wonder what threats were made to the members of the Supreme Court to buy their complicity in this treason. I feel sure they were all told, “You can take silver or you can take lead.”
    In any case it put the final nail in the coffin of thought that believes the Court is an impartial body.

    The 16 election revealed the media for what they are. Jewish owned propagandist for the left.
    The 20 election revealed both the left and the right as the traitors they are. As well as the Supreme Court.

    We are past the point that voting is going to change anything. The Republic has fallen. The only way things will change is by violent revolution. And frankly, I just don’t see it happening. Today’s people are too soft. Anyone under 50 doesn’t even remember the great White America that once was. They don’t know what has been lost. Their only thought is how many likes they can get from social media and when the next i phone is going to be released.

    Sulu

    • Replies: @Charles Carroll
  31. Gizmo880 says:

    Mr. Buchanan is dead on when he says…

    “Unrestricted immigration from the South, the Third Worldization of America, is the true existential threat “climate change” purports to be.”

    However, he is completely wrong saying that Trump lost the election in 2020. The election was stolen, plain and simple, and every honest person in the world knows this.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  32. KenH says:

    Trump is still perceived as the leader of the GOP but 2023 campaign season is still more than two years away and a lot can change by then. Trump may decide not to run and even if he does there’s no guarantee that lightning will strike twice and that he will be as enthusiastically received by the electorate as he was in 2015-16. His moment may have passed by then but time will tell.

    Barack Obama had large rallies but could barely draw flies while campaigning for Joe Biden. Ditto for Bill Clinton when he campaigned for Hildabeast in 2016. Trump could lose his mojo by 2023.

    Trump lost support with white men in 2020 likely due to his endless bragging about record low unemployment for blacks, hispanics, asians and women and signing a jail break bill for black criminals. This was a major insult to white men who supported him and it may have cost him WI, GA and AZ.

    Ron Desantis looks promising but he’s also a worshipper of the Jewish people and state of Israel like Trump is. He would be much better than Biden but we’ll see how much he starts tap dancing to the tune of the Jews and major donors if he has a good chance of becoming the nominee. If he starts condemning the Proud Boys and “white supremacy” then may as well stay home.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  33. @beavertales

    The swamp consists of Bush Republicans and Clinton Democrats. They are in a partnership. Papa Shrub was partners with Bill distributing agency drugs from the Mena Airport in Arkansas. Papa got Bill into the WH. The swamp does not want a President elected by the people ever again. Papa controlled the WH for 28 years starting with Reagan. He was the real mastermind in collusion with the Khazarian Mafia.

  34. @Sulu

    By deciding to not hear the Texas v. Pennsylvania case, SCOTUS violated the Constitution. This will result in violence just like the Dred Scott case caused the Civil War. Enough members were offered a deal that they could not refuse. They are all subject to extortion. That is one of the requirements of high office.

    • Agree: Sulu
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  35. @Ugetit

    The Khazarian Mafia had Churchill and Wilson in their pocket during their 10 year preparation for WW1 which led to WW2 and the forever wars enabled by the financing from the Federal Reserve Act and Income Tax of 1913. In the 1920s, Hoover massively helped the Khazarians alter the history books concerning the cause of WW1 by gathering up almost all records of WW1 from desperate European governments in exchange for food. He was awarded the Presidency for that.

    I do not have a full understanding of FDR’s situation. His family benefitted from the drug trade with China which was also a Khazarian operation just like their slave trade before the Civil War. They assassinated Lincoln for terminating that profitable business.

  36. @Realist

    “This country’s problems will not be solved through the electoral process.”

    Yes, I reached that conclusion many years ago. I’m certain that, leaving aside wild-cards of ecological collapse or spontaneous upsurges, the only way is to build movements, committed against the system, from the grassroots up.

    • Agree: Realist
  37. It is obvious that all this is the attempt of creation of Greater Israel From Nile to Euphrates.
    All American presidents must support this. If not Judenpresse will destroy them,
    That’s all folks.

  38. It doesn’t matter at this point because the presidential election was openly stolen by a malignant Leftist deep state. Voting will no longer be of any use at all.

  39. Ashley H says:

    According to many on the teams analyzing the possible election fraud, Trump got probably around 79 million and Biden around 65 million.

    So Trump didn’t lose for lack of support by the population. He lost because he was disenfranchised in Beltway DC.

    Actually, Biden is the second President in a row now governing without consent of the governed. There are two main sectors involved, namely the general populace and the Elites. Trump had support from the majority of the voting population but did not enjoy the support (‘consent’) of the elites. Biden has the support of the latter, but not of the former.

    The US is no longer a legitimately functioning Representative Republic. When SCOTUS dropped the ball on the PA case, the last safeguard in the system failed. Given the ballooning budget deficit, the US will probably begin to enter failed state status next year. It is quite likely that we will never again see elections under the current Constitution; more likely there will be a Constitutional Reset of sorts and we will have a system closer to the One Party model used in China. It has many problems, of course, but it has demonstrated both greater stability and greater dynamic flexibility than pretty much all western ‘democratic’ nations. Clearly our current system is on its last legs. And just as clearly there is no longer any way to reason or debate our way through into some sort of reform or evolved solution.

    Not looking good…

    But in terms of this article: Trump in theory should be able to win again if he runs, provided he is still vigorous enough in 3-4 years to want to both campaign and then govern. That said, he has learned first hand that Presidents are no match for the Elites. He might feel that he will have far more influence – with far less risk and hassle – as a media mogul than as a beleaguered, back-stabbed and vilified Administrator in a hopelessly corrupt Swamp.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  40. @Charles Carroll

    I would not rule out the probability that the SC Justices were scared out of their wits that Antifa thugs would visit their homes in great numbers if they did anything to bring the election into question. It was reported that John Roberts screamed at the other Justices not to take up any election cases because, if they ruled for Trump, ultra violence from Antifa/BLM would again occur.

    Note that the 3 Justices selected by Trump all ruled against him. Coney Barrett, in particular, has 7 children at home to worry about. This is what happens in Banana Republics, where judges who dare to rule against the drug cartels are killed.

    • Agree: Sulu
  41. @Rurik

    Well said, as always, Rurik.

  42. I get the feeling that Trump could have carried the election if he started a war against Iran. In that case I think that Netanyahu’s water-boy Pence would have put the matter to Congress and Trump would have been given a 2nd term. Maybe I’m giving Trump too much credit here, but the whole thing did smell like there was some last-minute defiance of orders by Trump which cost him.

    As far as hi running again, there’s no reason why he shouldn’t be at least as valid a candidate in 2024 as he was in 2016. If he does run in 2024 he should try to maintain an even balance by devoting a portion of his energy to highlighting the electoral fraud of 2020, and another fragment towards current issues. It wouldn’t look good if spent all of his time crying the stolen election of 2020, but it also would come off bad if he just took an attitude of “let bygones be bygones.” There’s a proper balance which he needs to strike.

    Hopefully if he does something like this then his stance on issues will not involve a call for another war for AIPAC in Iran. I had refused to vote for Trump in 2016 because I was sure that that was what he intended to do. In 2020 I was actually satisfied that there was very little chance of him doing that at a time when the ADL was talking about the mostly peaceful protesters who wanted to lynch him. But if he tried to earn back his creds by demanding that Biden attack Iran then I wouldn’t support that. We’ll just have to see.

  43. “We love him for the enemies he has made,” it was said of Grover Cleveland.

    He is also the only defeated incumbent to gain back the presidency. Trump’s model. He was from the same state and so hated in his hometown, Buffalo, that he refused to return. Several parallels with Trump. And his sex scandals were worse.

    Interestingly, only one defeated senator has ever been able to recapture his old seat. But many have tried. Recently, Russ Feingold and Rudy Boschwitz. So there is less resistance to such attempts in Senate races.

  44. @WorkingClass

    What I would not want to see is Trump as candidate for office. With one possible exception. Rubio is up for re-election in ’22.

    Trump is anything but”collegial”. Better to send DeSantis to the Senate and Trump to Tallahassee. Until 2024.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  45. @follyofwar

    Biden was much sharper mentally in 2016 than he is today. If he had had the courage to run then, he would have beaten Hillary in the primaries, and Trump would never have been elected.

    Yes, but as President of the Senate, he would have had the inglorious task of announcing his own defeat, as Al Gore, Hubert Humphrey, and Richard Nixon (in 1961) were forced to do.George Bush announced his win in 1989.

    Enjoy 2017 again:

  46. Shango says:
    @Charles Carroll

    You actually think that Taft would never the things Wilson had done because, unlike Wilson, he wasn’t an academic?

  47. @Reg Cæsar

    How appropriate. An orange guv for the sunshine state. I like your idea.

  48. @WorkingClass

    Don’t be stupid,be a smarty
    Come and join the Nazi Party

  49. Trump can’t win again. Either he will suffer electoral theft of unparalleled audacity, or be bought off, or killed.

  50. @Binyamin

    Trump won because of Obama’s treachery in totally betraying the Hopey Dopey suckers who voted for ‘Change’. Then the Evil monster Clinton was foisted on the Democrats after con-man Boynie Sanders tricked the next batch of Hopium addicts. Biden is betraying the suckers already, with the $15 minimum wage abandoned, as expected. Mid-term will either see a massive rebuke to Biden if Trump has taken over the Republicans, or massive abstention. Or civil war.

  51. @WorkingClass

    I’ve heard the theory floated that Trump might run for a Representative seat in Florida in 2022. Then, assuming the Republicans flip the House, he would be a shoo-in for Speaker.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  52. @Hapalong Cassidy

    I like your style. And I can’t wait to see what happens when evil Nancy is forced to turn her gavel over to her most hated enemy.

  53. Sulu says:
    @Rurik

    For all of Trump’s failings, the one thing I can say about him is that his enemies were my enemies.

    Damn Right!

    Sulu

  54. anon[246] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump needs to go away. He proved himself to be nothing but a false prophet the past 4 years. He had 4 years to end H1b, OPT, H4 and all other work visas through EO, but he chose not to do it. He didn’t even stop the border invasion until millions had come in. How much of the wall did he build? 100 miles out of 3,000? He had no replacement on healthcare whatsoever after killing obamacare. He did not close down a single foreign military base. His incendiary rhetoric against Iran and China did nothing for peace. He failed to bring back any manufacturing from China. He did not raise the interest rates but instead pressured the Fed chief to continue to suppress it. He did everything to please Big Tech including on immigration and didn’t try to bust up their monopolies.

    His biggest accomplishments:
    1) Freeing all drug dealers and other black criminals from our prisons.
    2) Major tax cut that further benefited the rich and increased the federal deficit.
    3) Kept the interest rates low and stock market at all time high to further enrich Big Tech and Wall Street
    4) Giving Israel everything they ever wanted except war with Iran — Jerusalem as capital, Golan Heights, assassination of Soleimani, more sanctions on Iran, Venezuela, Russia, China…

    Thanks to him, Wall Street and the tech titans became richer and more powerful than ever. Serves him right that they turned on him en masse in the 2020 election, couldn’t have happened to a more worthless Zionist stooge.

    Conservatives need to primary out all the RINOs in 2022, replace them with true patriots, then in 2024 nominate a real patriot for candidate like Kris Kobach or Kristi Noem of SD. To hell with Trump!

  55. Corvinus says:
    @Flying Dutchman

    “No one has to technically prove any such thing. The way the institutions used the fake “Covid” scam to cancel real voting and put the “election” under the control of machines systematically programmed to generate fake pro-Dem results is proof enough.”

    Actually, you have to have evidence here, rather than girlish emotion.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/20/affidavit-giuliani-vote-fraud/

    Most of the affidavits center on allegations that volunteers who wanted to watch votes being counted weren’t able to be as close to the count as they wanted (given the coronavirus pandemic) or alleging vague claims…Moreover, a key issue is whether the affidavit is filed in court, as most filed by the Trump’s lawyers were not…Other witnesses signed affidavits that said, “I believe my vote for Donald J. Trump and Michael Pence was not counted.” But when pressed by judges, they admitted they didn’t have any actual evidence to support that. A similar thing happened in Chatham County, Ga., where the GOP called two witnesses as part of its allegation that 53 ballots received after Election Day were predated to make them appear valid. But under questioning, the witnesses acknowledged they didn’t know whether the ballots were actually received after the deadline, while witnesses for the local elections board testified under oath that they were received on time.

    Remember, Trump’s lawyers consistently backed down when asked by courts to offer specific evidence. Again, how do you specifically address the fact they said they did not allege fraud when pressed by the courts?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-cries-election-fraud-in-court-his-lawyers-dont-11605271267

    For example, they sought have the Bucks County (PA) Court of Common Pleas invalidate more than 2,200 supposedly “defective ballots” that were counted after a review by the Board of Elections. Trump lawyers agreed to sign documents saying that there was zero evidence of fraud or misconduct when it came to said ballots. Attorneys for both sides signed a “joint stipulation of facts—an instrument meant to provide the court with facts relevant to the case that are undisputed by either party in the action—which clearly disavows any claims that voting in the commonwealth’s fourth-largest county was affected by any fraudulent conduct.” The joint statement literally reads: “Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud in connection with the challenged ballots.” Additionally, both sides agreed that election observers from each party were allowed full access to view the pre-canvassing and canvassing processes.

    And we are still waiting for Sydney Powell to reveal her smoking gun evidence of how Trump votes were changed to Biden votes, thanks to the seizure of servers in Germany by the U.S. Army.

    Furthermore, why did American Thinker apologize for false Dominion Voting articles?

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/15/american-thinker-conservative-blog-apologizes-for-/

    “These statements are completely false and have no basis in fact. Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately and that there is simply no evidence to support these claims,” reads the rest of the statement. “It was wrong for us to publish these false statements. We apologize to Dominion for all of the harm this caused them and their employees. We also apologize to our readers for abandoning journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion’s track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error.”

  56. Corvinus says:
    @Ashley H

    “According to many on the teams analyzing the possible election fraud, Trump got probably around 79 million and Biden around 65 million…Trump had support from the majority of the voting population”.

    Who exactly are these teams? What are their methodologies? How did they exactly arrive at this conclusion.

    “The US is no longer a legitimately functioning Representative Republic”.

    Considering that Congress has been in session and going about its daily business, as well as each state conducting its own affairs, I would say your statement is observably false.

    Furthermore, please refer to Comment 55 and offer a cogent rebuttal.

    • Replies: @Scorpion
  57. Corvinus says:
    @Gizmo880

    “The election was stolen, plain and simple, and every honest person in the world knows this.”

    First, you are employing the No True Scottsman fallacy. Second, please offer a cogent rebuttal to Comment 55.

  58. Scorpion says:
    @Corvinus

    You can read the account online by Patrick Byrne. He had one operation (set up well before the election) staffed by professionals many of whom work in govt, but mentions several others. I very much doubt that all of the thousands of sworn affidavits were as minor as depicted. But no Court heard them in discovery. And no full audits were ever conducted.

    So it is true to say that Trump never provided proof of election fraud. But it also true to say that his allegations were never tested in Court or by full, properly monitored, fully transparent audit. In other words, it is false to say that all the allegations of fraud have been debunked or disproven. They were not. And they way this happened is both extraordinary and indicative of systemic fraud on a broad level.

    As to comment 55, WAPO mentions a few examples of various different events in preliminary hearings etc. As far as I know, no Court allowed any process to proceed to trial with discovery etc. That said, Patrick outlines that Giuliani chose a particular, process-centered approach (which clearly failed) and chose not to pursue fraud allegations at first. As far as I can tell, the Trump legal team was either grossly incompetent or they deliberately lost whilst trying to give their supporters the impression that they were fighting hard and not throwing in the towel. Patrick said there were credible death threats against Trump and family.

    I think both sides are largely LARPers, indeed as is the entire US political system at this point. Probably ever since JFK was executed in public.

    As to the Republic having fallen, obviously that is a personal opinion. But in criticizing it by simply stating that representatives are in Congress etc., you failed to address the reasons given, namely that Biden is the second President in a row serving without the consent of the governed. Trump had the consent of the people but not of the elites whereas Biden has the consent of the elites but not of the electorate. Trump as President was thwarted by large numbers of people in the government who refused to follow his orders or actively worked to bring him down in ways that can only be described as seditious. That this was allowed to go on for so long is further proof of the Republic being no longer properly functioning.

    You may believe in it, but I believe a Republic which has government without the consent of the governed and senior officials in both the civilian and military branches openly committing treason is prima facie evidence of profound dysfunction.

    Trump supporters believe they can ‘take the country back’ somehow, i.e. restore the Republic. I believe it is like an egg : once broken it cannot be put back together. A Republic with Presidents lacking consent of the government and Judiciaries no longer following the laws is no longer a Republic. It’s something else. Autarchy? I don’t know. But it is no longer a Representative Republic following its Constitution.

    All sides are in denial about this, it seems.

    • Replies: @Scorpion
    , @Corvinus
  59. Scorpion says:
    @Scorpion

    “A Republic with Presidents lacking consent of the government and Judiciaries no longer following the laws is no longer a Republic.”

    Should read: “A Republic with Presidents lacking consent of the governed and Judiciaries no longer following the laws is no longer a Republic.”

  60. Corvinus says:
    @Scorpion

    “You can read the account online by Patrick Byrne. He had one operation (set up well before the election) staffed by professionals many of whom work in govt, but mentions several others.”

    You really want to hitch your wagon to him?

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2021/02/02/former-overstock-ceo/So exactly what were his teams findings?

    What methodologies were employed, as well as metrics used? Who are exactly these professionals? What are their credentials? Why should we believe his word over the word of election officials and think tanks who have commented heavily on the outcome of this election, that there was other than perpetual fraud as claimed?

    Moreover, you conveniently neglected to discuss why a right-wing news group retracted their allegations against Dominion Voting Systems. Byrnes made similar accusations, and now is in the legal cross-hairs. How do you account for the willingness of Dominion to take matters to court? Would not they be subject to discovery motions as a result?

    And, of course, you failed to address the legitimacy of Sydney Powell’s claims that she has “the goods”, i.e. undeniable proof of the switching of votes from Trump to Biden as a result of the seizure of servers in Germany. What say you about her lack of willingness to move forward with this accusation?

    “I very much doubt that all of the thousands of sworn affidavits were as minor as depicted”.

    In essence, you are speculating here.

    “And no full audits were ever conducted”.

    What do you mean by “full audits”? Please elaborate, as most states have laws requiring audits after elections. The results did not support Trump’s contentions that he was “robbed” of the election.

    “But it also true to say that his allegations were never tested in Court…”

    They were tested. The judges made decisions based on the merits of the evidence offered to them.

    “In other words, it is false to say that all the allegations of fraud have been debunked or disproven.
    They were not. And they way this happened is both extraordinary and indicative of systemic fraud on a broad level.”

    To the contrary, those allegations have been put to rest, you simply do not want to believe it.

    “As far as I know, no Court allowed any process to proceed to trial with discovery etc.”

    Because it did not meet the standard.

    “That said, Patrick outlines that Giuliani chose a particular, process-centered approach (which clearly failed) and chose not to pursue fraud allegations at first.”

    Because he understood that when pressed, they would have to provide specific evidence, which they lacked.

    “As far as I can tell, the Trump legal team was either grossly incompetent or they deliberately lost whilst trying to give their supporters the impression that they were fighting hard and not throwing in the towel.”

    Yes, and yes.

    “namely that Biden is the second President in a row serving without the consent of the governed.”

    To the contrary, Biden was given the consent by the citizens of our great land in an election through their vote.

    “Trump as President was thwarted by large numbers of people in the government who refused to follow his orders or actively worked to bring him down in ways that can only be described as seditious”.

    Those orders were at times other than constitutional in nature. You do realize that Trump is a long-time grifter, right? I suggest you read the Proof series by Seth Abramson. It will enlighten you.

    “That this was allowed to go on for so long is further proof of the Republic being no longer properly functioning.”

    OK, what to YOU means “properly functioning”?

    “civilian and military branches openly committing treason is prima facie evidence of profound dysfunction.”

    What YOU personally characterize as being treason. That does not mean it is accurate, or that the facts support that position.

    “Judiciaries no longer following the laws is no longer a Republic.”

    OK, I’ll bite. In what specific ways is the Judicial Branch of government engaging in this conduct?

  61. Nixon almost winning in 1960 and coming back from the political dead in 1968 is a little bit like a Republican presidential redux.

    But the hatred against Trump on the left, among the deep state, in the media, etc., etc., is just so extreme there is no good reason to summon it again.

    Hopefully, he can just enjoy playing kingmaker and find a way to channel his movement’s energy to a worthy successor with the same objectives, but less baggage.

    DeSantis looks good and is the current favorite. But four years is an eternity in politics. Remember when Chris Christie seemed like the rising Republican star?

  62. Morph says:

    it doesn’t matter as another commentator stated but I’m giving a slightly different view than he/she did. Sure it doesn’t matter if he runs because of the reason he was a so-called ‘loser’ in the 2020 election. Without doubt there was vote rigging in the 2020 election and you can expect more of the same in all future elections. Who is behind this vote jigging/rigging? Well, US intelligence agencies that’s who. All the US intelligence agencies fought tooth and nail during Trump’s 4 years in office to hamper and damage his reputation and hopefully to get him impeached. There is one clear message from the 2020 election and it is this – US intelligence agencies really run America no matter what the popular will is. As soon as enough people wake up to this the sooner something can be done about it but first you have to know what the problem is before any remedy can be applied.

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