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If Western elites were asked to name the greatest crisis facing mankind, climate change would win in a walk.

Thus did Time magazine pass over every world leader to name a Swedish teenage climate activist, Greta Thunberg, its person of the year.

On New Year’s Day, the headline over yet another story in The Washington Post admonished us anew: “A Lost Decade for Climate Action: We Can’t Afford A Repeat, Scientists Warn.”

“By the final year of the decade,” said the Post, “the planet had surpassed its 2010 temperature record five times.

“Hurricanes devastated New Jersey and Puerto Rico, and floods damaged the Midwest and Bangladesh. Southern Africa was gripped by a deadly drought. Australia and the Amazon are ablaze.”

On it went, echoing the endless reports on the perils of climate change to the planet we all inhabit.

Yet, from the inaction of the carbon-emitting countries like India, China, Russia and the USA, the gravity with which Western elites view the crisis is not shared by the peoples for whom they profess to speak.

For many First World countries, there are more compelling concerns. High among them is population decline, and, if birth rates do not rise, the near-extinction of many Western peoples by this century’s end.

Consider. The number of births in Japan fell in 2019 to a level unseen since 1874, around 900,000. But there were 1.4 million deaths for a net loss of 512,000 Japanese. An even larger loss in Japan’s population is expected this year.

Japan’s population has been shrinking since 2007, when deaths first exceeded births by 18,000. And with 28% of its population over 65, and fewer births every passing year, Japan is aging, shrinking and dying — with no respite in sight.

Across Japan, writes The New York Times: “Whole villages are vanishing as young people choose not to have children or move to urban areas … The Government estimates that the population could shrink by about 16 million people — or nearly 13 percent — over the next 25 years.”

South Korea has an even lower birth rate, and its population is expected to start diminishing this year.

But it is Eastern Europe where the population crisis is most advanced.

At the end of the Cold War, Bulgaria had 9 million people. By 2017, that had fallen to 7.1 million. In 2050, Bulgaria’s population is estimated at 5.4 million — a loss of 40% to death and migration since Bulgaria won its freedom from the Soviet Empire.

By 2050, Ukraine and Poland are each projected to lose another 6 million people, and Hungary will lose 1.5 million.

Lithuania and Latvia have seen serious population losses since the end of the Cold War and are in the front rank of European nations losing people at the fastest rate.

U.N. demographers project Russia’s population may fall from 145 million today to 121 million by 2050. Such losses rival those that Russia suffered under Lenin, Stalin and World War II.

The Far East is home to some 6 million Russians who dwell on that vast tract that is so full of natural resources like timber, oil and gas.

“The population continues to decrease almost everywhere in the Far East,” lamented President Vladimir Putin at an investment conference in Vladivostok: “The inflow is increasing, but it does not cover the number of people leaving the region.”

In the Far East, Siberia and the Lake Baikal region, investors and workers from China are appearing in growing numbers.

The tribes of Europe, the peoples of almost every country of the Old Continent, are visibly aging, shrinking and dying. The population crisis of Europe is “existential,” says Croatian Prime Minister Andrej Plenkovic.

Since this writer published “The Death of the West,” nothing has happened to alter my conclusion as to where the West was destined:

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“The Death of the West is not a prediction of what is going to happen. It is a depiction of what is happening now. First World nations are dying. They face a mortal crisis, not because of something happening in the Third World, but because of what is not happening at home and in the homes of the First World. Western fertility rates have been falling for decades. Outside of Muslim Albania, no European nation is producing enough babies to replace its population. … In a score of countries the old are already dying off faster than the young are being born. … There is no sign of a turnaround. Now the absolute numbers of Europeans have begun to fall.”

We are talking here about what historians, a century hence, will call the Lost Tribes of Europe. And if a people has ceased to replace itself, and the national family is dying out, it is difficult to generate alarm over the slow sinking of the Maldives into the sea, the melting of the polar ice caps, or the fact that Greenland is getting greener every year.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. The West evaporates like morning dew.
    Her only hope for life is God renewed.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  2. @SeekerofthePresence

    God had only one son & he never married or reproduced or created a family. Bad genes, one speculates.

    Hungary, Poland Spends Money On Motherhood, Not Migrants. Why Not U.S.?
    https://www.unz.com/article/hungary-poland-spends-money-on-motherhood-not-migrants-why-not-u-s/

    In the years immediately following the Iranian revolution, the Iranian government adopted numerous pro-natalist policies.
    Iran in Transition: The Implications of the Islamic Republic’s Changing Demographics
    https://carnegieendowment.org/2017/12/18/iran-in-transition-implications-of-islamic-republic-s-changing-demographics-pub-75042
    Zionist-USA policies are deliberately attempting to eradicate Iran’s demographic correction.

    SeekerofthePresence, tell your god to tell his chosenites to stop “bashing other people’s children upon the rocks,” and also to rein in their family-destruction campaigns.

  3. KenH says:

    The answer isn’t the mass importation of non-white, third world immigrants. Any white person who’s spent some time around non-whites for any length of time and is not permanently brain damaged by woke/anti-white fundamentalism would conclude that we are not equal and interchangeable as our elites routinely tell us.

    In the U.K., Scandinavia and Europe the answer is the mass expulsion of Africans and Muslims and forcing whites to marry and have 3-4 children. The various state should provide financial aid to white couples.

    In America the answer is an immediate immigration moratorium, deportation of all illegal aliens and visa overstayers, ending all employment visa programs and an end to birthright citizenship with any citizen born of illegal alien parents stripped of their unearned citizenship. That’s just for starters.

    Most whites sense that our governments either hate us or are indifferent to our needs and interests and as some prominent white nationalist and race realists have commented, whites sense that mass third world immigration has disturbed our nesting grounds which has slowed mating and reproduction. People are afraid of the kind of world their white children are being born into and their ability to provide for and protect them.

    All I can say is some very drastic measures must be taken in the Western world to ensure the survival of the white populations. But at the time when the West most needs leadership and unity it is a house divided like no other time in our history. Not only that but the religion of Western elites is race blindness and/or racial self loathing and philo-semitism while around 50% of the white population welcomes extinction or submission to non-whites (which would lead to extinction).

    If by some miracle things turnaround we know (((who))) will use all of their wealth, influence and power to destroy emerging pro-white leaders, institutions and nations.

  4. Roger says:

    “First World nations are dying.”

    More accurately, their populations are being replaced by Third World migrants.

    • Agree: anonymous1963
  5. Lol says:

    Maybe you shouldn’t loot the young to shovel money into old parasites if you expect the young to have children. Western nations spend multiples on old farts than they do on children and you get more of what you subsidize and less of what you tax.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @crankypants
    , @Dumbo
  6. SafeNow says:

    The advent of the smartphone and digital technology is a big part of this. From age three onward, the kid would be immersed in his digital world, totally alienated from his parents. Who needs to be chauffeuring some detached, distracted, perfunctory alien to to his middle school. This ain’t a 50’s / 60’s kid you’re talking about.

    As for pro-natalist compensation, my fear is that no feasible amount would motivate whites. However, the small amount would motivate non-whites. Thus, the compensation would be counter-productive.

    • Agree: Marshall Lentini
  7. @SolontoCroesus

    God had only one son & he never married or reproduced or created a family.

    He created the greatest family the world has known: the Church.

    ‘But Jesus called them [the disciples] to Him and said, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.’ Luke 18:15-17 NKJV

    • Agree: jack daniels, SBaker
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @DinoN
  8. @SeekerofthePresence

    He created the greatest family the world has known: the Church.

    Shiver me porn-addled timbers but that’s a really sexy pick up line. Bet it brings about zillions of marriages, family formation, child-raising.

    Quoting bible passages is so totally inane.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Disagree: SafeNow
    • LOL: Amerimutt Golems
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  9. @SolontoCroesus

    Bet it brings about zillions of marriages, family formation, child-raising.

    Agree.

  10. The problem is not population dccline. The problem is race replacement from immigration. Japan can have a population of 50, 70, 100 or 150 million people. All that matters is that that population is all ethnically Japanese. It is the replacement of an population by alien peoples that spells doom.

  11. @anonymous1963

    No, population decline matters and is a serious problem quite indepedent of immigration. The inverted population pyramid and bloated dependency ratios lead to all sorts of social dysfunction and economic collapse. There isn’t anything good about it.

    • Agree: JohnPlywood
    • Disagree: PetrOldSack
  12. @Intelligent Dasein

    so China’s one-child policy injured China?

    • Agree: PetrOldSack
    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  13. @KenH

    Great comment KenH.
    Elites use immigration for a variety of reasons — at this point in time, none of which are valid. They simply don’t care — about whites or the immigrants (plenty more where they came from….)
    And this is a vital point:
    “People are afraid of the kind of world their white children are being born into and their ability to provide for and protect them.”
    Many would like big families but life is too precarious. Many are too fearful to even marry. (Of course, there’s that percentage that are too selfish to want children — kids would mess with their lifestyle….)
    These economic issues are direct causes for population loss via migration in countries like Latvia, Lithuania Greece etc.
    Maybe I’m naive, but in the case of Japan surely it’s time for the government to seriously & financially encourage marriage & child birth…?

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  14. @anonymous1963

    Rapid, artificially-induced population decline is absolutely a major problem. But I don’t think it’s nearly as fatal a problem as third-world immigration, certainly.

    Of course, these two things are actually part of the same process. They’re being used in close conjunction to replace all White and East Asian populations (ie threats) on the planet with black and brown slaves.

    Feminism, women in the workplace, LGBT acceptance, and negrophilia are introduced to critically reduce the host population, then massive amounts of immigrants are “needed” to replace the natives.

    The reason New York Times and all other Jewish media outlets constantly talk about Japan’s declining birthrate is because Japan is currently their prime target for population replacement. Thus, they “need” to implement mass immigration. Their puppet prime minister, Abe (aka Japanese Trumpstein), has already agreed to this. Many immigrants are flooding into Japan (mostly Tokyo) right now, and millions more will be arriving in the coming years.

    All one has to do to confirm this is to look at the international birthrate numbers. Virtually every White and East Asian country has massively declining birthrates while Africa’s birthrates are absolutely exploding. This had never been the case before the advent of international Jewish power. In fact, something like this has never before occurred in human history.

    This isn’t a natural process that’s occurring. It’s being carried out deliberately.

  15. @Roger

    Third world countries are simply exporting their surplus poverty and dysfunction.

    ‘High IQ’ Nigeria will reach 402 million by 2050 from an annual population growth rate of 3,2%. This is in tandem with ineptitude i.e the economy is growing at only 2,4% while half of the country lives in extreme poverty plus it is a net food importer.

  16. @anonymous1963

    Low birthrates lead to problems like unfunded pension liabilities.

    People like Philippe Legrain (Immigrants: Your Country Needs Them) use this to justify importing more people from alien cultures.

  17. @Intelligent Dasein

    Growing and shrinking populations each create problems and I suspect the kind of problems and their severity depends on numerous variables. But as technology renders the mind more potent than the body, loss of young people is not as threatening as it was back when Europe was killing off its young men by the tens of millions. btw, are those events the basis for the research on which you base your claim?

  18. Re: Japan
    Imagine tripling the population of California. Two more Los Angeles to San Diego metros, two more San Francisco Bay Areas, two more of every city and town. Now imagine worrying about this California’s shrinking population.

    Imagine if every American west of the Mississippi River moved to California. The entire population of Texas, Louisiana, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, New Mexico, etc. Now imagine worrying about that California’s shrinking population.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Goddard
  19. @anonymous1963

    Even if you are right, we need to know the cause. Since ethnicity and culture go hand in hand, the motives might be the same whether the goal is to weaken the one or the other. Christianity, like Islam, fosters family-formation and reproduction. In my youth, both Irish and French Canadian Catholics had strikingly large families. I recall one of the popes arguing against population control, not just by means of abortion or contraception, but as a general goal. So I’m wondering if fostering increase isn’t a longstanding Christian view, apart from what liberal Protestant branches may think.

    The decline of Christianity, then, may be a contributor. It was less provoked by atheism than by the sexual revolution, with changing ideas about moral taboos. If recreational sex, abortion, homosexuality, childbearing out of wedlock, transgenderism etc. are all fine, then biblical injunctions against them are wrong and the religion that is the source of those injunctions and defends them is wrong. If traditional nuclear families are denounced by intellectuals as oppressive, then intellectual fashion-followers (most of us) will be less likely to create one. Especially since we can have the sexual privileges once restricted to marriage (or adultery) without the responsibilities or censure. Removing the sexual incentive to marriage is surely a questionable plan.

    The Great Replacement may be real but it is unclear what the motives would be. Various theories have been proposed referring to financial interests or subversion of nationalist impulses in the aftermath of Communism by the importation of third-world peoples to create multi-cultural societies. I tend to see Europe’s rulers as bent on the imposition of politically correct mores that nationalism tends to reject. This goes hand in hand with repression of free speech, necessary now that the collapse of communism seemingly liberated nationalists and Christians to promote their ideas.

    Another idea, mentioned by Tucker Carlson, is that the new lower classes cannot afford to have children. That would not be surprising since the economy has regeared to utilize a work-force with lower salaries, fewer benefits, and less job security. This has been made possible by the changing logistics of outsourcing, the rise of automation, and the pressure on women to enter the work force after the collapse of the nuclear famile (AKA Women’s Liberation.)

    But I’m wondering what the true explanation is and what the promoters of replacement say in their inner sanctums.

    • Replies: @Rabbi Zaius
  20. @SolontoCroesus

    Hungary, Poland Spends Money On Motherhood, Not Migrants. Why Not U.S.?

    We already do! 60% of Black births are paid for via welfare, and that’s just the start of the fun if you count prison costs.

    In an age of advanced automation, we pay all the bills for low-IQ refugees from incompatible cultures to be moved here so they can breed large families.

    Should anyone in our government have the GAUL to suggest even one penny be diverted to specifically help Whites, Noseberg Shekelstein of the SPLCADLACLUAIPAC would have their scalp by lunch.

    Depressing but not insurmountable.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    , @USA 1943
  21. anaccount says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong but based on the data I have seen it appears that Africa is the only real outlier when it comes to population growth (unfortunately). While South/ Central America and ME are above replacement rates it appears that these regions are experiencing the same contraction as well, albeit more slowly.

    It also appears that minorities in the US are slightly below replacement rates though this seems too good to be true.

    Again, please correct me if anything I’ve written is wrong.

  22. @Sick of Orcs

    GALL not GAUL, although old France is in heapsh#ts of trouble too.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  23. It’s all over for Europeans.

  24. I just made the comment on the latest McLaughlin group youtube video that Pat has been ignoring the “existential crisis” the West faces and focusing way too much on a potential war with Iran that I considered unlikely.

    He publishes an article on our existential crisis and we start a war with Iran.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Maple Curtain
  25. @anonymous1963

    We’ve never seen a population go extinct by choice. The birthrate ebbs and flows but population replacement is permanent and irrevocable.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  26. nickels says:

    The wages of sin are death.

  27. @Roger

    When NPR is actively promoting idea of expanding genders with a pronoun for each new gender, you know the first world nations are degenerated into abyss with no return.

    Since 1948, we actively spread disinformation worldwide, we ourselves are brainwashed to believe some of the narratives that we had created, such as “We are democracy” or “Diversity is good”. As we stay democratizing and diversifying our political, economic and educational institutions, continuing degeneration is the only outcome we will see in the end! Powerless migrants are only the symptom; it is our entrenched liberal democratic leaders who are the problem!

  28. @KenH

    I agree with much of what you say, Ken H, but how, pray tell, are you going to “force whites to marry and have 3-4 children?”

    Also, as a man of Euro (Polish) descent, I find it beyond sickening that White rulers like Trump & Co. practice abject racism by illegally bombing, year upon year, Middle Eastern countries, which have done nothing to us. Now, with the blatant assassination of that top Iranian general, who did much more to destroy ISIL than Trump ever did, Washington’s psychopaths may have finally crossed the Rubicon.

    And let’s not blame this one on the Jews. Trump, Pence, Pompeo, Bolton, Esper, and O’Brian (who replaced Bolton) are all White. Perhaps they all claim to be Christian. If white men continue to be led around by the nose by psychos like Netanyahu, then the fault lies somewhere in the cowardly DNA of white leaders.

    And, if whites, in both Europe and North America, cannot stop excess immigration, or convince our young people to reproduce themselves, then perhaps we deserve to die out. It’s called Survival of the Fittest, and whites are losing.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    , @KenH
  29. @Futurethirdworlder

    I would have hit the LOL button on that one, but the situation is far too grave.

  30. @Futurethirdworlder

    Old man Buchanan is stuck in a worldview that has moved on.

    Wait’ll ZOG tries to impose a draft on Whites in the cause of another Jew war – ain’t gonna happen Buchanan.

    Anyway, how long can bankrupt America wage war without collapsing its economy?

    A week? Two?

    The (((banksters))) better be careful with that hubris, cuz not all of the Jews will be able to make aliyah, and cattle (the shabbos goyim of international capital) aren’t eligible.

    Anyway, five minutes after the US economy collapses, Israel will be glass.

    What then, (((banksters)))?

    New Zealand?

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
  31. KenH says:

    Trump ran as a populist non-interventionist who wanted to end America’s pointless wars then once elected became a neocon warmonger looking for very excuse imaginable to start a war with Iran. The disconcerting part is much of his base continues to forgive him for his lies and betrayals while blaming those around him.

  32. bro3886 says:

    Blaming the victim. A European country and people with zero immigration has no chance of becoming extinct because its population contracts. The economic effect of such is far less destructive than the economic effects of having millions of Africans and Middle Easterners in your country, and that’s without factoring in the social chaos, crime, and violence. It’s not a phenomenon driven by nature or economics, Pat, it’s a conscious policy of genocide through racist colonialism.

    • Agree: anaccount, AnalogMan
    • Replies: @Maple Curtain
    , @Goddard
  33. This trend that Buchanan frets over would actually be encouraging if it were characteristic of the wider world. The real crisis that human societies now oversee is the degradation of their shared natural heritage by way of pollution (airborne, plastics, toxins), biodiversity loss, climate change, and in the unwillingness to earnestly pursue nuclear disarmament, proliferation of nuclear weapons.

  34. @Sick of Orcs

    Okaaay, but welfare does not really contribute to family formation that contemplates raising children prepared to take over leadership of the community.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    , @Sam J.
  35. @bro3886

    Ya, but Buchanan, who should be off playing shuffleboard, is constitutionally incapable of naming the Jew or even their ‘Christian’ Judas collaborators.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  36. USA 1943 says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Maybe one of the Moderators can ask that question at the next Democratic Presidential Debates on January 14th 2020 It would be interesting to hear their answers.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  37. @jack daniels

    They likely say ” mazel tov”!

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  38. Goddard says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    When this current contraction phase is over, Japan will still be Japan.

  39. Goddard says:
    @bro3886

    Great comment. Let the population contract, weather any economic storm, and come out of it with more open space in your country and with your ethne intact.

  40. @follyofwar

    how, pray tell, are you going to “force whites to marry and have 3-4 children?”

    It’s not necessary to “force” them – simply give them suitable incentives.

    The ancient Romans had the jus trium liberorum, a tax exemption for fathers of three or more children. A similar tax incentive has been tried recently in Hungary with some success.

    The only people in the U.S. who have much incentive to fecundity are the welfare-dependent, who farrow immense broods at the expense of taxpayers. Take this incentive away from them, and give it to the self-sufficient middle and upper classes. A properly structured tax exemption could do this.

  41. swamped says:

    There is no shrewder, wiser, or more prescient pundit on the scene today – or for the last few decades – than Pat Buchanan. His biting commentary over so many turbulent years has offered invaluable insight on some of the most pressing issues of the day, year in & year out. So no disrespect of any kind, but it’s somehow a little hard to figure how anyone who believes that, “Western fertility rates have been falling for decades. Outside of Muslim Albania, no European nation is producing enough babies to replace its population”, would themselves produce no babies of their own. Maybe the childless feel the loss more acutely or count on others to make up the average; but somehow if you don’t have children yourself, can you expect others to? “If a people has ceased to replace itself, and the national family is dying out” isn’t it just a reflection of what’s happening to many individual families?

    • Replies: @John Achterhof
    , @Dumbo
  42. @USA 1943

    We already know their answer. Didn’t fk-face biden already say he’s glad White men are going away?

  43. @SolontoCroesus

    …welfare does not really contribute to family formation that contemplates raising children prepared to take over leadership of the community.

    Serious incentives to have large(r) families for the purpose of raising productive citizens isn’t welfare. Welfare as it now exists rewards indolence and subsidizes the non-productive having large litters for more welfare. It’s absolute madness to import anyone who begins as a welfare drain on top of being from incompatible alien cultures.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  44. @swamped

    Sure, demonstrating integrity between the ideals one espouses and how one lives is vital to leadership, but in the realm of thought the observations and insights of pundits may be evaluated more independently of the source as true/insightful or not so much. Moreover, having a family, while a major responsibility, seems by all appearance generally a highly fulfilling experience for parents, punctuated with novel joys, so it’s not like Buchanan is calling on others to shoulder some great burden that he has selfishly avoided.

    • Agree: Dumbo
  45. @KenH

    In America the answer is an immediate immigration moratorium, deportation of all illegal aliens and visa overstayers, ending all employment visa programs and an end to birthright citizenship with any citizen born of illegal alien parents stripped of their unearned citizenship. That’s just for starters.

    Even if given FOUR terms, Rabbi Orange Fuckup wouldn’t do any of these. For him, tweeting about it is enough.

    We were never going to vote our way out of this.

    We’re going to war right here at home.

  46. Realist says:

    Thus did Time magazine pass over every world leader to name a Swedish teenage climate activist, Greta Thunberg, its person of the year.

    An autistic one at that.

    For many First World countries, there are more compelling concerns. High among them is population decline, and, if birth rates do not rise, the near-extinction of many Western peoples by this century’s end.

    For all White countries, there are more compelling concerns. High among them is population decline, and, if birth rates do not rise, the near-extinction of many White peoples by this century’s end.

    FIFY

  47. KenH says:
    @follyofwar

    I agree with much of what you say, Ken H, but how, pray tell, are you going to “force whites to marry and have 3-4 children?”

    Force was more a figure of speech but creating conditions through economic incentives/disincentives, barring women from college and certain professions and glorifying white wives and mothers in the media, and other initiatives that would encourage white men and women to marry young and reproduce. The state should offer free marriage counseling and limit divorce. There should be affirmative action but for white males so they can sustain families. In short, the economy needs to be completely reordered to serve the interests of and provide economic security for white people and white families in particular instead of billionaire elites and their managers. White family formation would likely follow.

    And let’s not blame this one on the Jews. Trump, Pence, Pompeo, Bolton, Esper, and O’Brian (who replaced Bolton) are all White

    They are all Zionist hardliners and shabbos goys. With Trump, Pence and Pompeo, carrying Israel’s water seems to be a genuine labor of love while the other jokers might be opportunists although I don’t know much about them. But yes, much of the current white “leadership” needs to be overthrown for race treason and submission to Jews.

    And, if whites, in both Europe and North America, cannot stop excess immigration, or convince our young people to reproduce themselves, then perhaps we deserve to die out.

    Well time and again whites vote for border security, deportation of illegal aliens/opposition to amnesty, lowering legal immigration and ending affirmative action (when Republicans pretended to oppose it) and time and again we are betrayed by our leaders most recently by the orange doofus who supports amnesty for DACA recipients, potentially more in the form of “farm workers” and an increase in H1B visas which he vowed to reduce on the campaign trail.

    More whites than ever are trying to sound the alarm on social media platforms and very successfully but when they get deplatformed by Jews or under Jewish pressure does that mean they have faulty DNA?

    The majority of whites have repeatedly shown that they still have healthy instincts and are worthy of life but no people can survive treasonous leaders such as whites have been plagued with since WWII and survive for very long.

  48. Learn from Israel. But of course, Jews horde what works for them and give the opposite advice to other peoples.

    But worse than population decline is mass immigration. After all, if Japan’s population goes down to 50 million, it is still Japan. But if Japan maintains its population of 110 million by importing foreigners, it will no longer be Japan.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  49. Dumbo says:
    @swamped

    I don’t know why Pat Buchanan didn’t have children. Maybe it was not choice but biology. There are several couples who for one reason or another can’t conceive. Ann Coulter is another immigration restrictionist who did not have children, though in her case it seems more of a choice, as she didn’t even marry. But as I argued somewhere else, I don’t think that leaders or pundits who don’t have children are a problem if they are promoting the right things. There are many white leftists who do have children and yet continue to promote policies that reduce white births or are negative for their children’s future (although perhaps they do not see it this way). Individual behavior or choice is different from policies or behavior affecting everyone.

  50. @Lol

    Agree…
    People in the USA live at “all costs” . We don’t let people die and more people just don’t know how to die with dignity. People live even though they can’t think , walk or even control their bodily functions. The Romans , I think it was Seneca ( the Stoics anyway ) recommended to live well rather than long…

  51. DinoN says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    How does a “Little Child” go about “Receiving the Kingdom of God”? And when does the “Time Limit” for being a “Child” runs out.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  52. @Priss Factor

    I have been hearing various news reports that Shinzo Abe has been liberalising the immigration system and allowing more immigrants in, they come from places like the Phillipines which is quite incompatible with Japan ethnically speaking.

    They have not given them citizenship however which means they cannot subvert the political system, I am not sure at this moment if they are just sensibly using temporary immigrants to help their demographics change or whether this will be like the German guest worker saga where it was initially thought the Turks would come temporarily to work.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  53. @Maple Curtain

    Excellent point. I don’t know why Buch doesn’t name The Nose.

    He’s already crucified by them.

    https://www.adl.org/resources/profiles/patrick-buchanan-unrepentant-bigot

    • Replies: @Maple Curtain
  54. @Sick of Orcs

    People his age were marinated in Jew lies their entire lives – it would be devastating to him psychologically to know that the America in which he lived his entire life was a lie.

    Same for first-wave Boomers like Trump.

    “We fought the bad Germans in WWII to defeat evil. That’s why you’re hiding under your school desk in air raid drills from nuclear war with the Soviets.”

    Hey, I didn’t say it makes sense, but that’s what they were taught.

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  55. @Maple Curtain

    Pat has “named the Jew.” He has questioned the official holocaust narrative and they are still calling him an antisemite for correctly stating, before the invasion of Iraq, that the purpose of the war was the destabalization of the region for Israel’s benefit.

    • Replies: @Maple Curtain
  56. @Just passing through

    Abe is scum and gutless tard, but he’s just reacting to demographic trends that are beyond his control. Japanese men have become herbivore wussies. They invite Mongols to take over sumo and invite blacks in MMA to beat up Japanese guys. They are dorks. Japanese women are whores. Also, Japanese got snobby over the years and disdain ‘dangerous, dirty, and demeaming’ labor. They won’t have children unless they are sure kids will enter good college. Also, Japanese kids grow up with video games and anime. As core culture, it’s deadly. And other capitalist East Asian nations follow the same pattern.

    • Replies: @nsa
  57. @Futurethirdworlder

    America is a Jewish colony, and Pat hasn’t named that.

  58. Plenty of people naming Jews as the culprit, but the Jew explanation doesn’t work very well for Japan or S. Korea. Others blame cultural factors. All of this is downstream of technological change though, specifically, the introduction of scientific birth control methods that have given women the power to release themselves from the shackles of their biology and have sex with the same carefree abandon as men. An ideology such as modern feminism only came into existence when the technological situation permitted it, and would vanish just as quickly should the technological situation return to its previous state. With their inventions, men have now given women the power to choose whether they want to give birth or not, and as it turns out, when they have that power, increasing numbers choose not to. Also, it turns out that they like sex, and would rather ride the cock carousel for as long as they can than settle down to the tedious task of raising the next generation. All of this was probably foreseeable, but wasn’t foreseen. Want the birthrate to go back up? Then ban all forms of birth control and abortion. Can’t or won’t do that? Then watch the fertility rates continue to drop until they hit a natural floor, whatever that may be. It’s that simple.

  59. nsa says:
    @Priss Factor

    At least the Japs don’t mutilate the genitals of their male offspring shortly after birth to demonstrate fealty to a degenerate megalomaniacal talmudic cock cutting cult. Mutilating the genitals of someone else’s kid is criminal…….mutilating your own kids is psychotic.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    , @anarchyst
  60. @DinoN

    Water baptism is the answer to the first question:

    ‘And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”’ Matthew 28:18-20 NKJV

    Baptism symbolizes the death (descent into water) and resurrection of Christ (ascent out of the water). By our childlike acceptance of these things with full faith and determination to live by them, we are received newborn into the Kingdom of God.

    Good news is no time limit on childhood. Many are called near the end of the day or end of life.

    “And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing idle, and said to them, ‘Why have you been standing here idle all day?’ They said to him, ‘Because no one hired us.’ He said to them, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right you will receive.’” Matthew 20:6, 7 NKJV

    Those hired near day’s end (eleventh hour) receive their full reward in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    God will come to you or you to Him. A still small voice calls:

    “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30 NKJV

    And as Jesus always said, “Peace.”

  61. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    True, as far as your analysis goes, BUT, it is political power that gave women economic power, and the opportunity to say no to children.

    Women do not create civilization or wealth and do not defend civilization either.

    In fact, as the 20th century shows, they will war with the men of their own nation while inviting and fucking invaders.

    They serve no positive civilizational purpose at all except for child-bearing, and nurturing.

    Without the means to acquire male resources without bearing children, women would starve, and rightfully so.

    That means was given to them by the vote, and then it was lights out for civilization.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  62. @nsa

    At least the Japs don’t mutilate the genitals of their male offspring shortly after birth to demonstrate fealty to a degenerate megalomaniacal talmudic cock cutting cult.

    What need to knife the dick when wussified Japanese men don’t even use them to make babies? A people who are mentally emasculated are effectively ball-less.

  63. Maple Curtain: “True, as far as your analysis goes, BUT, it is political power that gave women economic power, and the opportunity to say no to children.”

    The key thing to understand is that that opportunity wouldn’t exist at all except for the presence of the technological means. Political and economic power are downstream of the technological change represented by scientific birth control and abortion. For example, women could not pretend to be the equals of men in the workplace if they were constantly having to leave it due to being incapacitated by pregnancy.

    In the final analysis, women only have as much power as white men have given them. Giving them the power to choose whether or not to have children has proven to be a racial disaster.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  64. AnalogMan says:
    @Maple Curtain

    Anyway, how long can bankrupt America wage war without collapsing its economy?

    A week? Two?

    What’s it been so far? 18 years?

    • Replies: @Whitebloodcell
  65. Dumbo says:
    @Lol

    Let us know if you change your mind when you become an “old parasite”.

  66. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    A drop in fertility is one thing. It can be corrected. Japan and SK have very low fertility but they aren’t dealing with “fellow Japanese” who are acting as pied pipers and leading them down a road of racial replacement.

  67. partacus says:

    Buchanan is quoting old info on Russia and Hungary. russia has a growing population for the last 4 years, with births exceeding deaths. I think Hungary is now also replenishing itself, numbers are not out yet. the biggest hoax is the US birth rate. the white population has the lowest birth rate (except for ‘native’ americans) and US white population is disappearing faster than the Hungarian or Polish.

  68. @AnalogMan

    Wordplay: Banksters=Gangsters=Oligarchs(nah not even close(LOL) but close enough)!!
    We all live for the love of money. Mankind did so the past 6000 years.
    Think about of all the money that went to heaven????

  69. @animalogic

    too selfish to want children

    How is not wanting to have children selfish?

    Maybe I’m naive, but it seems to me that having children is selfish.

  70. @Rabbi Zaius

    They likely say ” mazel tov”!

    While dreaming of the faceless brown slaves promised by the talmud.

  71. anarchyst says:
    @nsa

    “Male genital mutilation” should be outlawed worldwide. The same goes for “female genital mutilation”.
    Removing a healthy body part without medical necessity is just wrong and criminal…

  72. Futurethirdworlder: “A drop in fertility is one thing. It can be corrected. Japan and SK have very low fertility but they aren’t dealing with “fellow Japanese” who are acting as pied pipers and leading them down a road of racial replacement.”

    Again, this ideology of race suicide that is being spread is downstream of the technological change that permitted women to choose not to have children, and developed only after the introduction and widespread availability of scientific birth control methods, including abortion. Without that, white fertility would have continued at above replacement level, so justifying immigration on the basis of economic need, as is being done now, would be much more difficult.

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  73. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    The Hart-Cellar immigration act was passed in 1965 during the baby boom generation. The largest generation of whites ever born in America. Falling birthrates were not the justification for it, obviously, because this has always been about creating a multiracial society it doesn’t have anything to do with increading the overall population.

  74. Futurethirdworlder: “Falling birthrates were not the justification for it … it doesn’t have anything to do with increading the overall population.”

    On the contrary, the chief justification one commonly hears these days is that the immigrants are necessary to keep the economy afloat, pay social security for the retired, “do the jobs Americans won’t do”, and so on. If the white fertility rate hadn’t dropped due to the technological innovation of scientific birth control and abortion that gave women the choice to opt out of producing the next generation, then this excuse would have lost much of its force. (Of course, that doesn’t mean another excuse wouldn’t have been used.)

    One thing wrong w/blaming everything on Hart/Cellar is that that act only deals with legal immigration, and it had the perverse effect of driving up illegal immigration. You should read Ron Unz’s article on this.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-building-a-wall-and-hispanic-crime/

    Hart/Cellar, by placing quotas on immigration by country, actually limited immigration from Mexico and Latin America, whereas before Hart/Cellar, legal immigration from all points in the Western Hemisphere was unlimited; i.e., there were no quotas. Towards the end of the comment section on that article I placed a comment in which I quote from the old law and provide some details on that.

    • Agree: anaccount
    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  75. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I’ve read the article and I don’t agree. The intent of the bill was to decrease immigration from western Europe and increase immigration from nonwhite countries. The sentiment was enshrined in law even though it didn’t deal specifically with Latin America.

    “Hart/Cellar, by placing quotas on immigration by country, actually limited immigration from Mexico and Latin America.”

    This is simply objectively false. There have been more legal immigrants from latin America since 1965 than the entire history of the US prior to 1965.

    And I’m not blaming everything on Hart-Cellar I’m detailing for you the intent of the bill and the date of it’s passing (during a white population boom) to help you understand that the purpose of our racial replacement has nothing to do with falling birth rates.

    “the chief justification one commonly hears these days is that the immigrants are necessary to keep the economy afloat, pay social security for the retired, “do the jobs Americans won’t do”, and so on. If the white fertility rate hadn’t dropped.”

    Yes the evil liars who are intent on racially replacing you are blaming you for it. This is called chutzpah.

    I’m not saying that low birth rates caused by womens lib and birth control aren’t a problem. I’m simply saying that it is separate from the racial replacement issue.

    • Replies: @Maple Curtain
  76. @Futurethirdworlder

    Yes.

    “The economy needs workers,” (((they))) say as they offshore jobs and replace white workers with East Indians.”

    The purpose of the government is to uph0ld the society not replace it on behalf of international capital.

    No prosperous society where everyone who wants a job has one, has any need for any more jobs. Let the globalists take their jobs to the third world if we have full employment; don’t let the globalists import the third world to destroy our societies.

    “Dr.” Morgan is wrong but trying to argue from authority.

  77. Over population is the core problem on a massively polluted planet of finite resources . Enormous die-offs of insects, birds, sea life and other species are now accelerating, exacerbated by climate change.

    On balance, natural population reduction is a good thing — else there will be massive die-offs of humans too in the near future. We just need the Third World to follow suit.

  78. Futurethirdworlder : “And I’m not blaming everything on Hart-Cellar I’m detailing for you the intent of the bill …”

    I think you’ve been reading too much of Kevin MacDonald’s balderdash. Anyone who reads the text of the relevant laws can verify it’s simply a fact that before Hart/Celler there was no limit on legal immigration from countries in the Western Hemisphere, and that Hart/Celler imposed a cap by country. The fact that more came after 1965 than before has more to do with economic and demographic factors over the intervening years than any plan; also, since 1965 there have been vast “improvements” in transportation that made immigration much easier. MacDonald likes to cast all of this as a battle between Jews and whites (after all, that’s his bread and butter), but his is a distorted view. This reform was passed by a majority white Congress, and signed into law by a white president. Further, over the intervening years, whites have done next to nothing to stop the flow of immigrants, and in fact, through their churches, have encouraged it. Time and again, they have returned politicians to office who vote for it. Further, despite white people being aware of the problem, essentially nothing has been done to stop the flow of illegal immigrants. In light of these things, it seems to me the fact that white people don’t seem interested in their own racial survival is a bigger problem than Jewish strategizing, if there is such a thing. By their inaction over the course of the last 50 years, whites show their agreement with the current policy. In point of fact, white Americans have never been unanimous on the value of preserving their own race, even going back to the founding of the country, and they still aren’t. America’s Christian culture has fostered the view that race is inconsequential, not worth bothering about, and indeed, EEEEEEEEEEEvil to even think about preserving (‘cuz Hitler, slavery, and stuff). Remember, white Americans fought a Civil War so that negroes could be made citizens equal to whites and given the vote. At great expense, they brought negroes over in the first place, racially undermining themselves long before the Jews arrived.

    Also, “intent” is something anybody can speculate about, but is hard to determine on an objective basis. Certainly, nobody at the time was saying the intent was to replace the white population. In fact, they said the opposite, that it wouldn’t happen. In order for what happened to have been planned, you would have to ascribe to our politicians a power to know the future course of events that seems almost supernatural. That said, I’d still grant it’s possible they did, but I’ve never seen any evidence to that effect. If you have some, I’m open to examining it.

    One can also speculate endlessly about alternative histories. I’m saying that if the white population had kept rising, and the white underclass that previously had done the “jobs Americans won’t do” had stayed in place, then the situation would have turned out quite different. Of course, as I said, it’s possible, maybe even likely, that other excuses to import workers would have been found. One of the reasons given for the Hart/Celler reform was humanitarian, to make family re-unification easier. This is tailor-made to appeal to sappy, white Christian sympathies. Significantly, major players in bringing in refugees and immigrants from all corners of the world are Christian churches. Also, by 1965, the white underclass that worked the fields back in the 1930s (for a depiction, cf. Steinbeck’s novel Grapes of Wrath) had moved up into other work that paid better and was higher prestige. Consequently, there was a real need for Mexican agricultural labor, and that would have remained even if Hart/Celler hadn’t become law.

    • Agree: Adûnâi
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  79. Sam J. says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    @SolontoCroesus

    I owe you an apology. I was reading back through some of my comments and saw where you posted this comment to a comment I made

    https://www.unz.com/article/iran-goes-for-maximum-counter-pressure/#comment-3299901

    My response was quite rude. At the time I was responding to several of what I felt were Hasbara and I didn’t really read what you wrote correctly. What made me write this was something you said in the same comment I linked above,

    “…(There is still a place in the universe for those of us who worship in libraries, and who even prefer the old liturgy of card catalogues that smell of Library and have dozens of drawers.)…”

    No one that loves library card catalogs can be all bad. I have spent many, many hours just tracking various ideas of all sorts in libraries.

    Once again my apologies.

  80. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “Anyone who reads the text of the relevant laws can verify it’s simply a fact that before Hart/Celler there was no limit on legal immigration from countries in the Western Hemisphere, and that Hart/Celler imposed a cap by country.”

    You haven’t read it or you read it and couldn’t understand what you read.

    “The Hart–Celler Act created a seven-category preference system that gives priority to relatives of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents, as well as to professionals and other individuals with specialized skills. The act maintained per-country and total immigration limits, but included a provision exempting immediate relatives of U.S. citizens from numerical restrictions.”

    “exempting immediate relatives of U.S. citizens from numerical restrictions.”

    Meaning no numerical restrictions for family members of US citizens. Get it?

    After 1965 who was more likely to have relatives living abroad? White Americans who had been here for generations or the new arrivals coming from nonwhite countries?

    This led to what is known as chain migration. A recent arrival sponsors his relatives who then invite their relatives…

  81. Adûnâi says:
    @Maple Curtain

    Women do not create civilization or wealth and do not defend civilization either.

    Grand words. But men do not defend civilization either. Women now have the power to destroy it because men gave them the right to. What does that say of men?

    Without the means to acquire male resources without bearing children, women would starve, and rightfully so.

    And what are those “male resources” in the West without the tit of the [ultimately suicidal] government? Men in the West have no agency. No resources. No vision. No future.

  82. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    The key thing to understand is that that opportunity wouldn’t exist at all except for the presence of the technological means.

    You have the technological means to gouge out your eyes. You are not doing that, however. Why?

    Because you are not a Christian. But Europeans are. This is why when the means was given to them, the eyes were gouged.

    P.S. There is no future in primitivism. How many millennia do you hope your race to live until a big enough asteroid or volcanic eruption wipes her out? Whereas the challenges of technology are far more philosophical.

  83. Futurethirdworlder: “You haven’t read it or you read it and couldn’t understand what you read.”

    Now I have to throw your own words back at you. The very passage you quote states that there are caps. Viz: “The act maintained per-country and total immigration limits …” Your argument seems to be that the caps Hart/Celler established are meaningless because of the chain immigration exception. That’s a fair point, but a different issue.

    Futurethirdworlder: “… but included a provision exempting immediate relatives of U.S. citizens from numerical restrictions.”

    It can take years for an immigrant to become a US citizen, ordinarily about 5 years. It’s also fairly expensive, costing thousands of dollars in total. It’s a bureaucratic nightmare, from what I’ve heard. I suspect a great many immigrants, probably a majority, don’t bother with this step, and of those who do, not all will become a sponsor of an immediate family member. Why should they? Not much is done to illegal immigrants as it is, because white people simply don’t care enough to round them up and kick them out. It would be un-Christian! If whites were concerned about their own racial survival, they’d have done at least that years ago.

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  84. Adûnâi: “You have the technological means to gouge out your eyes. You are not doing that, however. Why?”

    Certainly everyone has the option to cause themselves great damage or even kill themselves at any time. But recall Ellul’s definition of technology: “The ensemble of means whereby man obtains what he wants from the world.” It’s also true that some people do damage or kill themselves using such means, because that’s what they want. I recall reading about a case of a dentist who killed himself by drilling holes in his skull with his dental drills. Some might call this a misuse of technology, because killing yourself by drilling holes in your head wasn’t what the drill was designed for. But that’s a matter of opinion. He thought it was, and that’s all that mattered.

    In the case of scientific birth control methods however, the very use of them is impossible to disassociate from the racial problem their existence presents. Giving women the ability to choose whether to bear offspring or not came into existence when the technological means were born. There is no other use for these things. In that sense, from the racial point of view, to use them at all is to misuse them. That’s why it’s been a racial disaster. It’s a good example of how technological developments drive history. Before the invention was realized, nobody knew if it would even be possible to make such things; after it proved doable, nobody understood the racial consequences of their use until it was too late.

    Perhaps we can imagine a race of beings that would invent such a thing, but never use it. But these imaginary beings would not be human, because in humans invention is a goal-oriented process. The invention occurs precisely because people intend to use it.

    Adûnâi: “How many millennia do you hope your race to live until a big enough asteroid or volcanic eruption wipes her out?”

    Opinions differ as to whether such events would be fatal to the human race. Some say no. But even if we assume they would be, millions of years elapse between such events, so it still seems to me more likely that the white race as it currently exists will be extinguished due to technology than saved by it. After all, it’s already dying as I write this.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  85. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You are tedious.

    Your attempt to blame white Christian’s for mass immigration assumes that they have any political power. They have been voting to limit immigration, ban abortion and contraception, and deny same sex marriage for 60 years. All to no avail.

  86. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Futurethirdworlder

    We’ve never seen a population go extinct by choice.

    No population in history has ever had the means to go extinct by choice. No population in history has ever had cheap safe universally available contraception. Plus cheap safe universally available abortion. We’re the first.

    The lesson seems to be that if human populations possess the technology to cease reproducing, they will do so. The urge to reproduce does not appear to be particularly strong. Most people are content with one child. Many are content with none.

  87. dfordoom says: • Website
    @KenH

    the answer is the mass expulsion of Africans and Muslims and forcing whites to marry and have 3-4 children.

    That would require the end of democracy. There is no way you can force people to reproduce without instituting a strongly authoritarian non-democratic government. The same goes for all your other suggestions. Do you have a workable plan for achieving the required ruthlessly authoritarian government?

    And to be honest, I doubt that even an authoritarian government could achieve such goals. Maybe a totalitarian regime could do so, but it would have to be more thoroughly totalitarian than anything we’ve seen before. You’re talking about the government imposing forced marriages on people. Do you really want to go down that path? How many people do you think will want to go along with such a horrifyingly totalitarian project?

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  88. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Sick of Orcs

    Serious incentives to have large(r) families for the purpose of raising productive citizens isn’t welfare.

    Well actually it pretty much is. You just have to free yourself from the idea that all welfare is wicked communism.

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  89. @dfordoom

    There is no such evidence because, as I said, it has never happened. There is a percentage of the population who will go extinct (atheists primarily) but that’s it.

  90. @dfordoom

    Eliminate 90% of public sector jobs, outlaw contraception and end welfare. Women will marry and have children because they will have no other option.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  91. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “Giving women the ability to choose whether to bear offspring or not came into existence when the technological means were born.”

    The society where men do not wish to control their women is only possible due to the fulfillment of the teachings of Christ. Does it not occur to you that in an anti-Christian Volk, technology might have been used to make women more servile, not independent? The root is axiology. Rabbit or duck, as César Tort called this illusion.

    “The invention occurs precisely because people intend to use it.”

    Are you not misunderstanding the path of science? In its purest form, its only goal is the advancement of the understanding of the Universe. An example: an atomic bomb was invented, yet never used to exterminate the Negro.

    “But even if we assume they would be, millions of years elapse between such events, so it still seems to me more likely that the white race as it currently exists will be extinguished due to technology than saved by it.”

    If Hitler’s Germany had won, it could have prolonged the survival of the Aryans by millions of years in space. It mystifies me how you cannot see the possibility of the nuclear annihilation of non-Whites as clearly as Negroes’ travelling by train to Finland. Both are options, it is the will of the Christians that makes the latter reality.

    When I talk about the dangers of technology, I mean genetic engineering and artificial general intelligence. Those things that break down our nature and leave us without meaning. Still, I posit this as the only true way forward as the path of primitivism will tie our fate to that of other animals on the planet, and we know it well in advance – extinction.

    I do not view the ability to survive a hundred million years before the Sun’s radiance increases by 10% as a worthy achievement (crocodiles have done it). The fulfillment of the Aryan destiny is the way of overcoming the existential questions of being.

    • Replies: @anon
  92. Stealth says:

    Children are a drain on a couple’s resources. In the past, that wasn’t the case; a child was an additional set of hands. Nowadays, having a child means taking care of somebody and getting little to nothing in return. It really is that simple.

  93. Stealth says:
    @dfordoom

    The lesson seems to be that if human populations possess the technology to cease reproducing, they will do so.

    I think there’s more to it than that. Unlike in the past, there’s presently no return on investment if you have children. You pay for food, clothing, medical care and schooling so that maybe, just maybe, your kid(s) will help to take care of you during the last few months of your life.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  94. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Futurethirdworlder

    Eliminate 90% of public sector jobs, outlaw contraception and end welfare. Women will marry and have children because they will have no other option.

    Would you not agree that there is less than zero chance of getting such a program through under the current political system? You would have to overturn the entire existing political structure. You’d also have to take control of the entire media apparatus. And would you not agree that there is less than zero chance of getting such a program through under any kind of democratic system?

    Do you have a coherent plan for seizing power and achieving such a revolution? Have you considered the possibility that you might meet resistance? Do you really think such a revolution could be achieved without a bloodbath?

    How many people do you imagine would actually support such radical proposals? What if the overwhelming majority of the population decides that your plan is madness? What if the overwhelming majority of the population decides that your plan is evil and stupid? Do you intend to impose your revolution on an unwilling populace? How are you going to deal with counter-revolutionaries who oppose you?

    Apart from daydreaming, have you given your plans any actual thought?

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  95. @dfordoom

    The overwhelming majority of people are irrelevant. The majority of people don’t support the system we have now but here we are. Trump was able to win running on a platform that rejected the status quo. You would be surprised what people would support if they were given the opportunity to vote on it.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  96. Adûnâi: “Does it not occur to you that in an anti-Christian Volk, technology might have been used to make women more servile, not independent? ”

    But it has been used, just not as you wish.

    Adûnâi: “An example: an atomic bomb was invented, yet never used to exterminate the Negro.”

    Again, used, just not as you wish.

    Adûnâi: “If Hitler’s Germany had won, it could have prolonged the survival of the Aryans by millions of years in space. ”

    There’s no way to know what would have happened if what didn’t happen happened. As I said above, imagining alternative histories is just speculation; no way to know for sure. You should investigate determinism. The premise is that whatever actually happened happened as a result of causal necessity, not “free will”. There is no “free will”, just as there is no Providence, no God, no magic rabbi named Jesus Christ, no miracles, no life after death, etc. It’s all nonsense; religion, not science.

    • Replies: @anon
  97. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Stealth

    The lesson seems to be that if human populations possess the technology to cease reproducing, they will do so.

    I think there’s more to it than that. Unlike in the past, there’s presently no return on investment if you have children.

    Of course there’s more to it than that. But I do think that we have to face the fact that, unless you live in a subsistence agricultural society in which children are just extra farm hands, most people would prefer to have one child, or at the most two.

    Which means that any pro-natalist policy will come up against the problem that it’s trying to coerce people into doing something they don’t really want to do. A combination of pro-natalist policies might boost birth rates somewhat but probably not to replacement levels.

    You also have to accept that most people like the idea of being able to have sex without procreation. There are those who think that’s wicked (I’m not convinced that it is) but sex for pleasure rather than reproduction seems to be amazingly popular. If the technology to avoid pregnancy exists, it will be used.

    And I can’t honestly foresee a situation in which people will suddenly want to go back to having lots of kids.

  98. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Futurethirdworlder

    The overwhelming majority of people are irrelevant. The majority of people don’t support the system we have now but here we are. Trump was able to win running on a platform that rejected the status quo. You would be surprised what people would support if they were given the opportunity to vote on it.

    It’s possible we might both be surprised. But those irrelevant people aren’t going to get a chance to vote on these things without a political revolution occurring first. So how are you going to achieve that revolution?

    And what if you’re the one who gets surprised? What if people reject your proposals? What’s your plan for dealing with that?

  99. @KenH

    If whites were superior , they would not be losing ground so fast. Your race is History, cheers.

    • Disagree: Hail
  100. Sorry, but the Japanese aren’t going “extinct” any time soon. Anyone notice that they still have at least 90 MILLION people, on an island chain with a combined land mass about the same as California or Montana?

  101. anon[631] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adûnâi

    “I do not view the ability to survive a hundred million years before the Sun’s radiance increases by 10% as a worthy achievement (crocodiles have done it). The fulfillment of the Aryan destiny is the way of overcoming the existential questions of being.”

    Greatly put. Too bad it’s most likely that in 500 years there will be no Aryan left on this planet.

  102. anon[631] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Without belief in Providence there would have been no Hitler, no myth-making, no heroic age, no anything after 1918. To believe is often the most important thing.

  103. anon[631]: “Without belief in Providence there would have been no Hitler, no myth-making, no heroic age, no anything after 1918. To believe is often the most important thing.”

    If I were to argue from Adûnâi’s point of view, I might respond by saying that Hitler could have had a healthy atheism instead of a belief in Providence and been even more effective. But that, again, would be only speculation. I’m interested in understanding the reasons why things are the way they are, why what actually happened happened, not in airy hypotheticals.

    From a deterministic point of view, false beliefs may be necessary, but that doesn’t mean they’re true. Hitler believed what he believed because such beliefs were typical of his time and situation, reflective of a certain state of technological development. Yes, false beliefs about Providence were apparently psychologically necessary for him and for the German people at large. But then, following your chain of reasoning, without such belief, there likewise would not have been a Dresden, a Stalingrad, the bombing into rubble of German cities, the millions of war casualties, the mass rape of German women, etc. That’s the Darwinian paradox. A false belief such as a belief in your own invincibility or being favored by Providence may lead you to victory and evolutionary success for a while, only to lead to disaster later. Sometimes a strength can become a weakness, and likewise, a weakness can become a strength. That’s a recurrent theme in evolution and history.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  104. Tony says:

    “Zionist-USA policies are deliberately attempting to eradicate Iran’s demographic correction.”

    And you got a problem with that? You want them coming here, which they will because they have no opportunity in their own country. They aint your fellow aryans as some misguided people might think. They dont like infidels.

  105. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “That’s the Darwinian paradox. A false belief such as a belief in your own invincibility or being favored by Providence may lead you to victory and evolutionary success for a while, only to lead to disaster later.”

    That is correct. Why did Hitler the loser start WW2? Was he so anti-Christian, such an anti-cuck, that he made all the wrong moves in that situation?

    It is true that it takes incredible will to ponder at the existence of this abomination and not shrink. To face the maddening gaze and not be turned thrall. Maybe WW2 was such a case of total break from the Cross – without foreseeing any consequence?

    The entire idea of a National Socialist European country seems now like a pipe dream! And it was a reality once. All to vanish in history. Wasn’t there a great moment to stop and dig in? Raise a new generation? Or did they think it would falter with decades passing, and only a great fire could reignite what was left of the Aryan?

    • Replies: @anon
  106. anon[631] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adûnâi

    WW2 was not started by Hitler nor it was his will to be continued. He was forced into it step by step. Just read his speeches.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  107. Adûnâi says:
    @anon

    “WW2 was not started by Hitler nor it was his will to be continued.”

    That Hitler did not start WW2 is easily the most obnoxious, toxic, useless and retarded lie of modern neo-Nazis. I can at least give a modicum of the benefit of the doubt to Holocaust denialism – I am no expert in crematoria (although the huge amount of material on the subject coupled with blatant lies of denialists quickly remove it). But the history of WW2 is freely available in any school textbook where it is written in black ink on white pages that Hitler was the first to use military force. There. Done.

    Of course, you can say the English and the French were traitors. True. Then why did Hitler not behave cautiously? Because he was a retard. There. Done.

    This movement was never that bright. Always driven by instincts or tradition. Today we are disregarding the fact the Anglos are praying to a Jew God, tomorrow we are making gay parades in Berlin. This sheer level of dishonesty is remarkable. At least, neo-Christians put their innermost intentions on the spotlight for the whole world to see – they want to die. At least some mathematical logic used.

    Keep watching The Greatest Story Never Told and being ignorant.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @anon
    , @dfordoom
  108. Ron Unz says:
    @Adûnâi

    That Hitler did not start WW2 is easily the most obnoxious, toxic, useless and retarded lie of modern neo-Nazis.

    Well, since you’re commenting on my website, you might want to read my long recent article on exactly this topic and decide for yourself:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-understanding-world-war-ii/

  109. anon[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adûnâi

    “school textbook”

    Do you hear yourself?

    “Then why did Hitler not behave cautiously? Because he was a retard. There. Done.”

    You literally called the greatest white man to have ever lived a ‘retard’. And you think you are sane?

    “Keep watching The Greatest Story Never Told and being ignorant.”

    JFL if you think I’ve watched that or that I care much about most of the post WW2 sources.

    What’s next? Hitler wanted to conquer the world? Do you also have Roosevelt’s ‘Secret map’ hanged in your bedroom?

    Are you one of those people who also think Barbarossa was unnecessary? If so, then why did the USSR resemble an armaments factory set against Europe more than anything else?

    Quoting from

    Special mission to Europe of Sumner Welles,
    Undersecretary of State. Exchanges of views regarding the possibility of peace and on postwar problems.

    Berlin, March 2, 1940

    “Hitler then said that I had referred to the problem of limitation and reduction of armaments. Time and again, he said, he had offered England and the other powers of the world the opportunity for a real and practicable reduction of armaments. He had guaranteed that Germany would maintain her standing army at 200,000 men; then at 300,000 men; he had expressed German willingness to outlaw certain types of munitions and implements of war. Never once, however, had these offers on his part received the slightest attention or, much less, consideration, as a basis of agreement. The Chancellor then said, “The present armament burden is crushing the life out of all peoples; it cannot continue much longer. The national economy of every nation will crash before much further time elapses.”

    “He said, “I am fully aware that the allied powers believe that a distinction can be made between National Socialism and the German people. There was never a greater mistake. The German people today are united as one man, and I have the support of every German. I can see no hope for the establishment of any lasting peace until the will of England and France to destroy Germany is itself destroyed. I fear that there is no way by which the will to destroy Germany can be itself destroyed, except through a German victory. I believe that German might is such as to ensure the triumph of Germany but, if not, we will all go down together (and here he added the extraordinary phrase) whether that be for better
    or for worse.” He paused a moment and then said textually, rapidly and with impatience, “I did not want this war. It has been forced upon me against my will. It is a waste of my time. My life should have been spent in constructing, and not in destroying.”

    Quoting from

    Adolf Hitler – speech in the Löwenbräukeller
    Munich, November 8, 1941

    “First, he used Poland as a dummy, and later pressed France, Belgium, Holland, and Norway to serve him. From the start, England was a driving force here. Understandably, the power which would one day confront us is most clearly ruled by this Jewish spirit: the Soviet Union. It happens to be the greatest servant of Jewry.

    Time meanwhile has proved what we National Socialists maintained for many years: it is truly a state in which the whole national intelligentsia has been slaughtered, and where only spiritless, forcibly proletarianized subhumans remain. Above them, there is the gigantic organization of the Jewish commissars, that is, established slaveowners. Frequently people wondered whether, in the long run, nationalist tendencies would not be victorious there.

    But they completely forgot that the bearers of a conscious nationalist view no longer existed. That, in the end, the man who temporarily became the ruler of this state, is nothing other than an instrument in the hands of this almighty Jewry. If Stalin is on stage and steps in front of the curtain, then Kaganovich and all those Jews stand behind him, Jews who, in ten-thousandfold ramifications, control this mighty empire.”

    The Holocaust is real, never denied that. And even if it wasn’t, like you said, it’s better to have this myth of the 6 mil when Aryans still had some vitality in their blood.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  110. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Adûnâi

    That Hitler did not start WW2 is easily the most obnoxious, toxic, useless and retarded lie of modern neo-Nazis

    You’re trying to reason with a neo-Nazi.

  111. Adûnâi says:
    @anon

    School textbooks are generally correct. What they lack is the racist perspective, but that can be easily substituted with your own position. I would have gone mad had I not been able to tolerate cucks and listen to their arguments in the areas they are proficient in (see how César Tort tolerates Richard Carrier).

    “You literally called the greatest white man to have ever lived a ‘retard’. And you think you are sane?”

    Our best was retarded and insufficient. This is why we are going to die out.

    “What’s next? Hitler wanted to conquer the world?”

    He would better have. Unless you consider Hitler a peace-loving cuck. (Considering you want to absolve him of starting the war, I’m afraid you might.)

    A school textbook fact: Europe had already conquered the world by 1911 (aside from Japan & Korea). Savitri Devi was hyped for the Germans’ advancing through the Khyber Pass. She along with her husband called it “the third Aryan invasion of India”.

    “Are you one of those people who also think Barbarossa was unnecessary? If so, then why did the USSR resemble an armaments factory set against Europe more than anything else?”

    This is hard to tell. César Tort considers the Russian campaign a mistake. I think that if Stalin had ever attacked Europe, Britain and France might have helped Romania by attacking Baku through Iran.

    Do you honestly believe the Western capitalists would not have supported Germany in a fight against Communism? Are you one of those claiming Stalin to have been Queen Victoria’s grandson? (I mean, there are people who consider Marxism “a project of the British elite”, roflmao).

    “I can see no hope for the establishment of any lasting peace until the will of England and France to destroy Germany is itself destroyed. I fear that there is no way by which the will to destroy Germany can be itself destroyed, except through a German victory.”

    This means Hitler was either a moron, a liar or a gold fish. Because the Western democrats had allowed Germany to swallow the Rheinland, Austria, the Sudetenland and Memel. Again, textbook facts.

    “Understandably, the power which would one day confront us is most clearly ruled by this Jewish spirit: the Soviet Union. It happens to be the greatest servant of Jewry.”

    Alas, it so happened that in 1980 the USSR was the last White country free from degeneracy. And when Stalin and Kaganovich had left, the forces of LGBT and degeneracy triumphed. If it had not been for Hitler and his stupid war, Russia’s economy would have surpassed that of America, and Germany would have grown only more prosperous and healthy.

    This could have been our collectivist future.

    • Replies: @anon
  112. anon[631] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adûnâi

    How was USSR free from degeneracy? In your mind only LGBT is a sign of degeneracy? Is Marxism a healthy ideology?

    You said you like Devi:

    http://hercolano2.blogspot.com/2012/05/savitri-devi-two-great-modern-movements.html

    Do you not understand the importance of National Socialism in the struggle for survival of the European race?

    If the Western capitalist democracies would have fought against Communism, why did they send so much material to Russia? Do you not know that Germany would have crushed Russia without Anglo-American help to the Bolsheviks?

    What could England have done against Russia with its 6 divisions? Are you that ignorant? Can’t you see that both West and East were Jewish to the core? The so called European domination of the world was a laughable façade, a mask that was dropped off forever during and after WW2.

    And why would Hitler have wanted war after only 6 years of peaceful reconstruction? Hitler’s struggle for power lasted for 14 years. The Third Reich had barely 12 years of existence, and half of it at war. War against all was the last thing Hitler wanted.

    Refutation of all your judgements:

    https://streamable.com/w5t7z

    https://streamable.com/i74cy

    https://streamable.com/grxd9

    https://streamable.com/p0wrp

    https://streamable.com/bbh73

    No wonder César banned you (though you still comment there as brainofboltzmann), you say a good thing, then you relapse into madness. Typically slavic.

    And stop being so obsessed with the tiny DPRK, they are no treat to Judentum, otherwise they would have been dead long time ago.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  113. Adûnâi says:
    @anon

    “How was USSR free from degeneracy? In your mind only LGBT is a sign of degeneracy? Is Marxism a healthy ideology?”

    Better than Rooseveltism. Bolschevismus was a force of order, and order is inherently good. Even if my race were exterminated, it honestly would be better than this degeneracy.

    “You said you like Devi:”

    Yes, I do. I like Chechar, too. But I am no blind follower. I like animals (especially crows and raccoons), but I don’t believe man’s destiny is to become a plant. And I am not sure whether children should not be burned alive (I was never even beaten by my parents, yet I can admit that modern people are more degenerate).

    “Do you not understand the importance of National Socialism in the struggle for survival of the European race?”

    I’m too free-thinking not to be blind to its failure.

    “If the Western capitalist democracies would have fought against Communism, why did they send so much material to Russia?”

    Because Germany attacked first? Even from a pure game theory point, it is obviously a bad move. See Bismarck.

    Even though I do believe that America was incredibly overzealous, true. From the American patriotic standpoint, they should’ve started sending lend-lease to Germany after the Russians had reached the Dniester. Although I am not sure whether it was possible to reorient Roosevelet’s propaganda apparatus.

    “The so called European domination of the world was a laughable façade, a mask that was dropped off forever during and after WW2.”

    You are failing to see that the rise of Aryandom in Germany was born out of that domination. France, England, Germany, Imperial Russia… Some bad, some good.

    “And why would Hitler have wanted war after only 6 years of peaceful reconstruction?”

    I am a doofus in economics, but some say that Hitler’s Germany would have gone bust without a war.

    “then you relapse into madness”

    Chechar literally cannot talk about how Stalin was less homosexual than pedo-America. Although that is a historical fact.

    “And stop being so obsessed with the tiny DPRK, they are no treat to Judentum, otherwise they would have been dead long time ago.”

    Koreans have 1 country. Whites have 0. Koreans also have 50 nukes. Whites have 0.

    And I’m pretty sure Hwasong-15 can hit Jerusalem (unlike the poor English Electric Canberras of South Africa).

    • Replies: @anon
  114. anon[626] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adûnâi

    Adolf Hitler, Mein Führer, betrayed, betrayed again he was, how many times can he be betrayed, how many times did they try to kill him, to stop him anyway they could? And yet, still, out of God’s love he extended his hands to his folk, a treasonous people, an unworthy people, not just the Germans but all Europeans and all of this world, and has not the world got what it deserved for this treason? For the disloyalty? When they betrayed the rightful leader of freedom and instead chose the enemy to serve as slaves? And of all people, the Europeans have betrayed their own most of all and for that they have lost all sovereignty and dignity, and the only one who could have secured it for them, who sacrificed his own earthly life for the future of his folk – Adolf Hitler, is denigrated more than the Devil himself! Europe has scorned her greatest Son! Europe, without hesitation, sold all her children down the river, and for what? Less than trinkets and blankets… They sold their generations and civilization, all for worthless ECB Frankfurt Confetti!

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  115. Adûnâi says:
    @anon

    Do you happen to have Third Reich Pilgrim by Karl Young?

    About treason – only true of the Anglos and partially of the French. Whereas the Balkans supported him, and the East he himself foolishly attacked.

    • Replies: @anon
  116. anon[626] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adûnâi

    “Do you happen to have Third Reich Pilgrim by Karl Young?”

    I don’t. I would like to read it, but it’s $1000 on Amazon.

    “and the East he himself foolishly attacked.”

    Will you ever wake up?

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  117. Adûnâi says:
    @anon

    Are you active on César´s blog? Are you ghostman? Ghostman is a Romanian, purportedly, whereas you make as little sense as an Ameritard. Why do Westerners never understand war? Chechar is constantly railing about how those poor innocent Germans suffered… literally nothing at the hands of brave Soviet warriors.

    The Soviets had the right to exterminate 50 million Germans for what the said Germans had done in Russia. 25% of the entire population of Belorussia was murdered. But you know nothing of that. Ameritards have no inkling of an idea about wars or conflict or geopolitics or armies, only what is right or wrong.

    Don’t get me wrong, I would choose the side of the Germans or even other Aryans in a conflict. But your lack of understanding is appalling. And critiquing Hitler for any right reason is a taboo. Because normie racists are retarded, imagine my shock. Praying to a dead Jew? Check. Calling materialism evil? Check. Seeing Bolshevism where there is none? Check. Saying Russia did not have the right to defend herself against Hitler’s unprovoked attack? Check.

    I’m not against unprovoked attacks. I believe Nietzsche to have been right in that this world is the one of suffering and hate. The more, the worldlier. But then you have to thank the gods for Russians’ not having killed every German man, woman or child in 1945. In the end, they were the colossus of clay Christian feet.

    Guess what, your lot is so funny, dishonest and self-absorbed, you will say that Soviets did indeed kill every man, woman and child in 1945! Chechar is still raving about his “Hellstorm” to this day. And about the evil Gulgags. Just like Fomenko. Or like those poor Indians who deny the Aryan migration theory. Or the Poles who deny the existence of German tribes in Poland before Common Era. This very site has an insane article espousing the Khazar theory. A woman on Chechar’s blog is calling the Hyksos Jewish.

    All too common to find such wishful insanity. And too rare to find worthwhile conversation…

    • Replies: @anon
  118. anon[626] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adûnâi

    1. I am neither American nor Romanian. I read Chechar, but I don’t comment there. And I agree with you that his obsession with “Hellstorm” and Solzhenitsyn is unhealthy. In the big picture, human suffering is irrelevant so I am anti-humanist. My favorite philosophy is daoism.

    2. The war was exterminationist, every German should have killed his wife and his children after April 1945. And this is correct if you look at the Germans of today. Would have been far more honorable than this disguting slavery. But the masses are masses and maybe only 50 years of National Socialism would have changed that. All real fighters that Europe still had, died in 1945. I really wish “they” killed all Germans in 1945, their racial soul was already finished for good.

    3. I don’t care about Russian lives, they have fallen prey to Jewry; the Germans could have exterminated them to the last man for all I care.

    4. Whatever nonsense you want to believe, in 1941 Hitler was left with only one option: invade the Soviet Union immediately, or face annihilation. Please read Paul Carell’s “Hitler’s War on Russia” ( Hitler Moves East 1941–1943 & Scorched Earth: The Russian-German War, 1943-1944) and the sources below.

    5. I am no Christian, but you seem a quasi Jew lover. “Bolschevismus was a force of order” lmao gtfoh Dumb ugly enslaved goyim masses dying for the Jew = Order, I got it.

    6. I would never go to war with you.

    Sources:

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_F%C3%BChrer_to_the_German_People:_22_June_1941

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_Explains_His_Reasons_for_Invading_the_Soviet_Union

    https://archive.org/details/TheFuehrersProclamationToTheGermanPeopleAndTheNoteOfTheGerman

    https://streamable.com/timzr

    • Agree: Adûnâi
    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  119. Adûnâi says:
    @anon

    Thanks for the honesty. Still, people such as Rudel or Savitri Devi chose to live, for better or for worse. Expecting the end of the cycle. Hoping that that had not been the last battle. I wonder what their spirits would have said now.

    “3. I don’t care about Russian lives, they have fallen prey to Jewry; the Germans could have exterminated them to the last man for all I care.”

    I didn’t mean it like that. I actually agree with you here – even more, Russia (and Poland, Ukraine, etc.) is now a corpse after having won the war. What I meant is that Nazis consider the Eastern Front some sort of an ideological war between the Aryan and the Jew, but IMO, it was much less – merely a Russo-German war, a conflict between two deeply flawed European nations. It only became mildly anti-bourgeoisie towards the end.

    “5. I am no Christian, but you seem a quasi Jew lover. “Bolschevismus was a force of order” lmao gtfoh Dumb ugly enslaved goyim masses dying for the Jew = Order, I got it.”

    Bolschevismus sent a man into space and disallowed its citizens to wear jeans. The USSR had far less migration than in modern times, and the White birthrate was falling a bit slower.

    Jews were barely tolerated under the Soviet. The GDR helped Arab shitskins against Israel. The USSR was actively converting Christian churches into museums of natural sciences. It was the war that led to the reintroduction of religion, even the toleration of the dreadful Greek Catholic church in Western Ukraine (to me, anything less than hanging is toleration).

    By the way, isn’t it sad that Germans supported the moderate Christian wing of Ukrainian nationalists (the OUN-M) instead of the more radical anti-Christian OUN-B? How can this be defended? I see it all as an opportunity squandered in the optimism, nationalism and close-mindedness of the NSDAP. Because Europeans cannot think religiously anymore?.. The Iranians don’t find it cringe to make a fundamentalist revolution. And in the DPRK, they venerate their Eternal Presidents. Whereas Germans only wished for a third Reich, bigger and better, and with a higher standard of fat living – not for some cosmic last stand against Christianity.

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