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To Parliament, in the London of George III, the Boston Massacre of 1770 and the Tea Party of 1773 were not seen in the same light as they were by the Sons of Liberty in the Massachusetts colony.

To Parliament, this was mob violence, and the shooting and killing at Lexington and Concord were acts of insurrection and treason.

But because we won the Revolution, those events are portrayed and remembered differently. For when it comes to riots and revolutions, all depends on who writes the narrative of history. It is the winners.

“Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past,” said George Orwell in his novel “1984.”

To the media, the long hot summer of rioting, looting and arson that followed the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis was driven by “racial justice” protests against a “systemic racism” that permeates society.

The rioters were calling attention to injustices we Americans have failed to address, like police brutality. And almost all of these “peaceful protesters” were calling us to be a better people.

And did not the riots produce beneficial results?

Joe Biden and his party have responded by setting as a goal the replacement of “equality of rights” with “equity,” an equality of results, where gaps in test scores, incarcerations, incomes and wealth between white and black are to be closed by government action.

However, as for the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6 by Trumpists, to protest and perhaps change the outcome of the election, that was an act of insurrection, a treasonous attempt to overturn a democratic election and overthrow a democratic government.

Of all the riots in 2020 and 2021, that was the unforgivable one.

The proper response to that riot is not to heed its angry voices but to impeach the president on whose behalf they acted, to strip him of any right to serve again in public office, and to write new laws to deal with the horrific “domestic terrorism” we witnessed at the Capitol.

About the morality and justice of the rampage of rioting in the wake of Floyd’s death, and the sole riot at the Capitol, the media are the self-anointed judges. They decide which riots are benign and which are malignant, which should receive an empathetic response, and which should end with every participant in prison.

Western democracies almost always grant favorable publicity and moral support to popular uprisings against autocratic regimes.

The Hong Kong protests were cheered on by the West until there arose a fear in China they were getting out of hand. Beijing then stepped in, ordered the protests halted and imposed law and order.

In Russia, there have been protests in many cities over the recent jailing of dissident Alexei Navalny. But winter weather and thousands of police arrests have cooled the protests, and Vladimir Putin booted out of the country three EU diplomats from Poland, Germany and Sweden who attended the pro-Navalny demonstrations.

When it comes to illegal and disorderly protests, Xi Jinping and Putin take them seriously and play hardball. They see mass protests and riots as Western-inspired, if not Western-planned, and deal with them as subversive activities.

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“The messages sent by Russian authorities during this visit confirmed that Europe and Russia are drifting apart,” EU minister Joseph Borrell blogged on his return from Moscow to Brussels. “It seems that Russia is progressively disconnecting itself from Europe and looking at democratic values as an existential threat.”

In Turkey, demonstrations by staff and students erupted in January over the installation of an ally of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan as rector of Bogazici University, among the most acclaimed schools in the country. Hundreds have been arrested in clashes between protesters and police in one of the largest displays of civil unrest in Turkey in years.

In Myanmar, thousands took to the streets this weekend to protest a generals’ coup that took over the country a week ago and ousted the elected civilian regime of Nobel Peace prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi.

The American media defended the Hong Kong protesters and tended to minimize, excuse or ignore its excesses and violence.

But in Moscow, Beijing, Istanbul and Myanmar, the protests are seen as insurgencies, as sappers of the state and regime, and the governments are predisposed to deal with them in every way — save capitulation. They see them as the work of “regime change” ideologues in the West.

In Western nations, protests and riots come largely from the left and rail against what is claimed to be indifference or resistance to the rights of minorities. And the natural tendency of the media is to sympathize with protesters, especially those bedeviling autocracies.

Again, all except the occupation of the Capitol on Jan. 6. That one was different. That one got the sympathy of no one because its premise was that an elite-backed establishment stole the election.

Such accusations against our elites are intolerable and immoral.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. MB says: • Website

    Viva Our Revolution.
    But not yours?
    Why not?
    Because the Big Lie is that vermin must only grovel and comply and wonder of wonder, some of the vermin actually believe it and do.

    Word is still out on the rest of the vermin, but mopping up ops are picking up.
    As well the propaganda.
    Because submission unity is what they do best.
    IOW the Ministry of Truth is coming into its own and boy, is it about time.

    Even if the Great Wall of Razor Wire was only put up after the barbarian hordes penetrated the holy of holies and sacked Madam Defarge’s office, leaving it a smoking ruin.

    OK OK, that didn’t happen, but what was that guy thinking? That blowing up photos of him with his feet on the desk and selling them as autographed posters on EBay was gonna enable him to retire early?

    Da vermin got up their game or its all over.
    Unless AOC can be provoked into more hysterical shrieking about safety and even occupying Nancy’s office because she’s really in cahoots with Cruz and plotting white supremacy/racism.
    Hey, weirder things have happened.

  2. It’s all projection…a preemptive false flag…
    the last of a long list of deceptions unfolding live.
    The riots to follow will need an excuse ,a scapegoat,
    a victim and an imminent threat.
    The VIRUS can’t last forever,there’s already a vaccine…
    oops
    I meant to say a drug called hydroxo for only $2.
    And don’t forget the survival rate is only 99.8% $$
    And don’t worry about anything else,the masks will work soon.

    We’ll impeach the last President…that should work,

    Just as well as it did last February. Celebrate black history,racists ?????

    • Agree: Supply and Demand
    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  3. Yes Mr B, US Elites have always had a very self inspiring sense of its own moral superiority.

  4. I guess I’m the only one who unabashedly found the protests in the Capitol building both legitimate and justifiable. I have never spoken out against the protesters nor do I condemn their (relatively benign) actions. I don’t qualify my support for them with equivocations and I don’t hedge my support with qualifications.

    What they did was okay. It was good. If it made Pelosi uncomfortable, then that’s a good thing. She needs to be discomfited. She lives in a bubble and someone needed to let in a little fresh air. Same for the lot of them in Congress. They’re not representatives of the people–at least they don’t look at themselves that way, if you can go by their own words–they’re royalty. And freedom from any annoyance they regard as their Royal Prerogative.

    We are a far cry from being any sort of democracy.

  5. History never stops. The wheel turns. The American project imagined by the Founding Fathers, the Framers of the Constitution, the authors of the Federalist papers etc has run out of steam and is ending in a morass of imperial overreach, massive indebtedness and intersectional guilt-tripping. This rot cannot be undone and no President or Congress has it in it’s power to stop it. The way forward is to upskill yourself, be as free of debt as possible, do not rely on Corporate structures for a future and build your wealth, health and friendships as best you can.

    In essence opt out so that you can opt in to life.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Anon
  6. Here is an interesting look at how strongly political affiliation affects voters’ views of the events on Capitol Hill and the involvement of Donald Trump:

    https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2021/01/how-americans-perceive-events-on.html

    As is becoming typical of the United States, the events of last week are viewed completely differently by each side of the massive political divide.

  7. Charlottesville doesn’t get a mention?

  8. Realist says:

    However, as for the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6 by Trumpists, to protest and perhaps change the outcome of the election, that was an act of insurrection, a treasonous attempt to overturn a democratic election and overthrow a democratic government.

    What the fuck democratic election and democratic government are you talking about???

    This goddamn Plutocratic Oligarchy that we live under is in no way democratic.

    • Thanks: Trinity, Ragno
  9. Rurik says:

    Joe Biden and his party have responded by setting as a goal the replacement of “equality of rights” with “equity,” an equality of results, where gaps in test scores, incarcerations, incomes and wealth between white and black are to be closed by government action.

    .. the replacement of “equality of rights” with “equity,” an equality of results, where gaps in test scores, incarcerations, incomes and wealth between (middle and working class) white and black (and illegal immigrants) are to be closed by government action. (while the top 1% continue to amass the wealth of the planet to the solicitude of Joe Biden and his Squad of klepto-commies).

    No one is coming for Zuckerburg’s or Bezos’ burgeoning billions. But if you’re a plumber from Ohio, then it’s time to end your ‘racism and privilege’, and ‘equalize’ you to economic parity with Honduran immigrants and fentanyl crazed street thugs.

    About the morality and justice of the rampage of rioting in the wake of Floyd’s death, and the sole riot at the Capitol, the media are the self-anointed judges. They decide which riots are benign and which are malignant, which should receive an empathetic response, and which should end with every participant in prison.

    Western democracies almost always grant favorable publicity and moral support to popular uprisings against autocratic regimes.

    To a political and cultural neophyte, nothing could be more misleading.

    To read Buchannan, you have to bring a truckload of cynicism to glimpse the raging wry.

    When he says “they”, (of the media), decide, then if you don’t know, (and millions of Americans and others don’t know), then it’s egregiously misleading because it implies that the media are simply Western people with Western values, who’re sympathetic to popular uprisings against tyrannical regimes.

    But this is the opposite of what’s going on, and Buchannan knows it. So why mislead his readers?

    The media in this country is owned and/or controlled by Jewish supremacist Zionists. Duh. And that is why they celebrate black thugs burning and looting, while condemning Trump’s protesters as the most evil thing imaginable.

    So by suggesting that it’s the Western people’s media, which represents the values of the West, Buchannan is playing into the devil’s narrative.

    Such accusations against our elites are intolerable and immoral.

    Not too many are going to miss that sarcasm, but most of the article’s sardonic treatment of ‘the Western media’, will be lost on most readers.

    In any case, this is all a replay of the Bolshevik, Soviet enslavement of Russia and beyond in the last century.

    The Jewish supremacists use their armies of assorted losers as shock troops against the (mostly) white middle class. “For the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality”.

    It’s all been done before.

    Just don’t EVER give up your guns, America! I shudder to my core to imagine what it would be like on the day after you’ve allowed them to disarm you. Check out Germany after the Armistice, (or the Kulaks) to see how they treat people who they’ve disarmed.

  10. @ThreeCranes

    Getting drunk is fun in the short run, but the drunkard pays for it the next day. Those who stormed thru the Capitol did far, far less damage than BLM/Antifa did last summer (and continue to do). But they should have realized that they were people of the wrong color, in the wrong building, at the wrong time, who supported the wrong candidate.

    They were so unthinking that they fell into a well laid trap, without even face masks to disguise them. Like a drunk, an hour of great fun frolicking thru the “People’s House” as cowardly Congress critters scurried like rats. The hangover – ten years in prison. Not a very good trade-off, I’d think. But, it felt pretty good at the time, so, like drunks, they did it!

    The biggest immediate damage to their cause is that this poorly timed insurrection prevented a few brave Senators and Representatives from making their cases that the election was stolen from Trump in the contested states. It couldn’t have worked out better for the victorious democrats. I doubt if Pelosi minded too much over an hour’s discomfort, while an idiot, now in jail, had his boots up on her desk. Her office would have been fumigated and all of her furniture sterilized. Since her side won, it was worth it. The winners write the history.

    • Agree: SafeNow, Intensifier
    • Replies: @Trinity
  11. saggy says:

    Again, all except the occupation of the Capitol on Jan. 6. That one was different. That one got the sympathy of no one because its premise was that an elite-backed establishment stole the election.

    The only sympathy they deserve is the sympathy reserved for the mentally incompetent. Trump, the Jews’ new Cyrus, has led the ‘white nationalists’ off a cliff with his ‘stop the steal’ hoax and his Capitol ‘insurrection’. And right-wing idiots like Buchanan, who is one of my essential authors because of ‘The Unnecessary War’, still support Trump !!!

    • Replies: @Ragno
  12. @goldgettin

    Trump should never cease being impeached until something sticks.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @HallParvey
  13. Franz says:

    …except the occupation of the Capitol on Jan. 6. That one was different. That one got the sympathy of no one

    Aw, hell they wanted that one.

    They spent all last summer goading it on. Then, what with few BLM arrests, the January 6th demonstrators figured it’s already Silly Season, why not a bit more? Damage was light; the death by gunshot was a deplorable; the self-anointed Good Guys won.

    But they didn’t want to win. They wanted a cassus belli, a warrant for war. Without thinking it through, the January 6ers gave it to them. Now, we see, The White Terror knows no boundaries and will trash any sacred shrine they so desire.

    At the start of the old Michael Rennie movie, The Day the Earth Stood Still, he lands his saucer in Washington, DC, still in the early 50s a sleepy southern town with kids playing baseball, the Gov’ment buildings ignored, the “guys in charge” cheerfully asleep at the switch. I guess the ballplaying kids are in their 90s now, or maybe dead, but they remember freedom of a sort.

    We sure won’t. Every lockdown and every guard and militarized vehicle is a reminder you are a slave and living in a slave state. The scenery is moving away, the illusion is being abandoned. They gave it a safe distance from the carnage of 1945, so we’ll forget when we threw it all away.

    • Agree: Intensifier
  14. Right-wing [riots] good. Left-wing bad.

    We heard the conservatives the first time (many moons ago).

  15. @Intensifier

    Well said, Intensifier, with this exception: it still pays to get involved in LOCAL (municipal and county) politics, where it usually takes far less money and fewer people to effect change. It’s no small matter to determine who the mayors, prosecutors, police chiefs, and judges are.

    We need people in those positions who will vindicate peaceable people who have to use firearms or other lawful force to defend themselves, their families, and their neighbors. We also need school-board members who will remove deviant sexual material and political/racial propaganda from the government (“public”) schools. All that we can still achieve in many jurisdictions — perhaps even most jurisdictions outside the largest and farthest-left cities.

    Otherwise, yes, stop wasting time and money on federal politics; become debt-free; withdraw financial and other support from TV stations, social-media platforms, the movie “industry”, extremist anti-white pro-deviant universities. Don’t borrow money for your kids to attend propaganda mills posing as universities, and tell them you won’t help them if they borrow money for that purpose either.

    All the time not spent on TV, movies, anti-social media, exorbitant tuition, federal politicking, expensive vices, etc. yields a lot of time to exercise and thus live longer and better, tend a garden where possible, spend real time with your kids or grandkids and fortify them against the constant barrage of propaganda around them, volunteer at local charities feeding and clothing and counselling people directly.

    The money not spent on those things can be saved and invested, used to buy a home somewhere where you have a fighting chance, and donated to strengthen and expand “the little platoons” we need for, effectively, a more sensible, traditional, stable, and compassionate parallel society.

    • Agree: Intensifier
    • Thanks: Rurik
  16. On January 6 the Tree of Liberty was watered with the blood of patriots and the sweat of tyrants.
    Clearly, mere sweat is not enough.

  17. SafeNow says:

    A few years ago I congratulated an immigrant from China who had just passed her citizenship test. I remember my heartfelt words to her: “Here, as you know from studying civics, our rights come from God. Because they don’t come from government, government cannot take them away. In other countries, the government gives rights to people and so a government can take them away.”

    She looked up to me as being a smart native American who really understands what the country is all about. I lost track of her, but if I saw her again, I would sincerely apologize for not seeing this coming at the time; for telling her she could relax now, she was safe.

  18. White people riot.

    Negroes peacefully protest.

    While jews laugh their asses off.

  19. Tom Brady is the Jonathan E (Rollerball, 1975) of our day: the hero who wasn’t supposed to keep winning. He was the wrong color in the wrong country at the wrong time with the wrong friends and a long past. In a word—unwoke. He is the independent spirit who doesn’t bow, kneel, grovel, or apologize. An authentic man, he rejects victim psychology. Winning is his passion. People like him built this country. Jonathan E lives!

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  20. @SeekerofthePresence

    Apparently the NFL, a torch bearer for the woke movement, has blocked the Brady victory clip from being shown on the Unz Review site. One more example of how woke censorship serves to divide America.

    It also shows how the woke lemmings are afraid of independent-minded people, such as those who contribute and comment at UR. The intelligent person who thinks for themselves is now the enemy of the state.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  21. KenH says:

    If Trump had won BLM and antifa were planning riots in D.C. and elsewhere around the nation. That’s why they gathered in D.C. in large numbers on election night. They also would have rioted during the January certification.

    So what some of the Trump supporters did was actually pretty mild by comparison because contrary to the bullshit the Feds are feeding people the “planning” for the Capitol Hill erection on certain social media platforms was mostly bluster. The “riot” seemed very disorganized and it looks like some of the people just got swept up in the events around them.

    We now live under a sadistic two tiered (in)Justice system where left of center protesters can do pretty much anything they want and the DOJ and FBI will shrug their shoulders and tell us that they are powerless to investigate let alone arrest an ideology while right of center protesters and activists can have their lives destroyed for simply attending a lawful political rally and deemed “domestic extremists”.

    #DefundtheDOJ
    #DefundtheFBI

  22. Ragno says:
    @saggy

    Anyone who follows ‘stop the steal’ with hoax is an enemy of free people everywhere and anywhere.

    It has nothing to do with Trump, who you’re free to dislike or even despise, and everything to do with letting your likes/dislikes talk you into pretending you didn’t see what you just saw. Kritarchs refusing to hear arguments and examine evidence with a dismissive handwave prove nothing beyond the late-stage atherosclerosis of a political and judicial system too long divorced from everyday life and the will of the people.

    Any remotely fair hearing would have no choice but to take into account the bizarrely sinister open warfare against a duly-elected President, from the literal moment he won in 2016, by every segment of the commonwealth with near-exclusive access to the public megaphone; the oft-repeated justification used for this open warfare, most recently reiterated in the scandalous TIME Magazine confession-cum-justification of ‘the steal’: if we don’t do something, he might win again.

    (The minute I’d finished reading that article a second time – because its brazenness was breathtaking enough that you wanted to make sure you’d just read what you thought you did – it became crystal clear that this article would either go down in the annals of radioactive notoriety, to be studied by high-school students for years to come as Exhibit A of the dangers of top-down totalitarianism, a slow-motion insurrection; or it will be nervously shoved down the memory hole by the guilty parties just as soon as it can be safely ‘disappeared’. Because – when more (((cunning))) heads prevail, as they are wont to do, they will view Molly Ball’s shameful and shameless end-zone dance as a paper trail that is likely to read much much differently in a few years’ time, and thus – like Beria’s portrait – is best erased from the record forever.)

    But the most damning declaration from leftist screeds like the one in TIME is the one never made: the constant reference to “attempts to interfere with the proper election”, never specified, turned out to be the only one they correctly feared: more people would vote for Trump than for Biden. The other bugaboos, from “voter suppression” to dark allusions to unnamed “algorithms” were all tools in the Democratic election-rigging kit.

    In fact, until Trump won in 2016, nobody had ever heard of “algorithms”, or a handful of online ads, tilting an election; usually you tilted an election Democrat style, with cash and no-show jobs and free Newport cigarettes and van rides to every polling place in town. The looming threat of Trump was the sort of “threat” only a rigged/stolen election could remedy: the threat of the electorate, at first irritated with Democrat race-baiting and treasury-draining – until 2020, when they grew sick with worry at the mounting chaos besides – deciding to pull the “wrong” lever in numbers sufficient to create a landslide for Orange Man; as indeed they did.

    But how are you going to delegitimize the will of the majority?

    By “fortifying” the election. With a cabal.

    • Thanks: Rurik, GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @saggy
  23. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Democrats are Huns. They don’t care about rules, manners, comity, honesty, honor, or playing pattycakes. They just care about winning. And thus consistently do so.

    Republicans, on the other hand, are beta males: pussified wimps like Ryan, McConnell, Graham, Romney, etc. Nothing gets them off their arses. All talk, no action. Fapping while Rome burns.

    The latter’s “outrage” as their now-retired Commander-in-Chief is publicly reamed a second time …for larpers temporarily occupying the Capitol (after a year of Leftist riots, burnings, takeovers of cities, quashing of free speech, murders, etc.)…is non-existent.

    Republicans act like Michael Dukakis. On October 13, 1988, while campaigning for president, Mike was asked during a debate how he’d react if someone raped his wife. Instead of jumping up and roaring like Rambo, Dukakis cucked. He calmly gave a nice, wussified, “legalese” answer.

    His wimpy response cost him the election.

    Similarly, Republicans now respond to Trump– blindfolded, gagged, and hog-tied on the ground– being kicked in the balls by…channeling Mr. Rogers.

    Pathetic.

    What sane conservative will (1) vote any more (given the recent obvious manipulation of results) or (2) vote Republican?

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Incitatus
  24. Anon[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intensifier

    Lets keep it simple. We have a Uni-Party in Washington DC, which includes RINO fake-Republicans, and NeoLib fake-Liberals. The common denominator of this Uni-Party is CENTRALIZED CONTROL (hyper-federalism, central banking, and “great-reset” globalism…).

    Any DC politician, or any organized effort (such as protests) which contradicts this Uni-Party agenda narrative becomes a pariah (Donald Trump, Ron Paul, Berny Sanders, Capitol protests…).

    Wake up and quit being fooled by the fake democrat-republican false binary. This Uni-Party CENTRALIZED CONTROL Regime is blatantly Authoritarian-Leftist (with regard to US sovereignty) and paradoxically Authoritarian-Right (with regard to its globalist, central banking agenda).

  25. Democrats are multi millionaires —Republicans millionaires and both if them regard Main Street as zip…..Crunchy Granola Suite.

    • Agree: Trinity
  26. Trinity says:
    @follyofwar

    I still do not see why the riot would stop these “brave senators and representatives” from DEMANDING their cases be heard. IF these “brave senators and representatives” truly believed in their commitment to this nation and they had this case nailed down, they damn sure looked unprincipled and cowardly to me. The Turtle Man Mitch The Bitch McConnell said that not even the American Civil War interrupted America having a fair and “democratic election.”

    So the American Civil War can’t stop democracy but a few yahoos and Antifa rejects can? Gotcha.

    The demsheviks never let a crisis go to waste and the worthless repukes are always so agreeable for some odd reason. Hapless losers are all the repukes ever were and ever will be as long as the same ole same ole is running things.

  27. Nit wit Republicans are claiming that if they can flip enough seats to control the house in med term elections, that they can impeach Biden, which is not a winning slogan or strategy for any Republican, since Kamala Harris would be president if Biden was impeached and removed from office, who Republican voters dislike more than Biden.

    Sorry, but that is just not a motivating reason for me to vote.

    Andrea Iravani

    • Replies: @Trinity
  28. Trinity says:
    @No Friend Of The Devil

    These hapless groveling loser repukes are a disgusting lot. Do they ever REALLY WIN anything for the people who vote them in? Even Trump spent more time for muh Israel than he did trying to make things better for the WWC aka White Working Class. Repukes should have been dumped decades ago, even good ole Ronnie Reagan. Cuckservatives have allowed this nation to be destroyed. They are probably more at fault than the democrats.

  29. Incitatus says:
    @Anonymous

    “Democrats are Huns. They don’t care about rules, manners, comity, honesty, honor, or playing pattycakes. They just care about winning. And thus consistently do so.Republicans, on the other hand, are beta males: pussified wimps like Ryan, McConnell, Graham, Romney, etc. Nothing gets them off their arses. All talk, no action. Fapping while Rome burns.”

    Huns versus beta males? Burning Rome? What colorful, vacuous metaphor!

    “Republicans act like Michael Dukakis. On October 13, 1988, while campaigning for president, Mike was asked during a debate how he’d react if someone raped his wife.”

    He was asked a loaded question (e.g. ‘when did you decide not to beat your wife’), then scorned for the ‘bubble-boy’ photo in a tank. He’s a decent man (now age 87). Rides the Boston MBTA without bodyguards.

    Four years later, President GHW Bush (also a decent man, victor of Kuwait) didn’t have a clue on supermarket prices. Deer in the headlights. Same problem.

    “Similarly, Republicans now respond to Trump– blindfolded, gagged, and hog-tied on the ground– being kicked in the balls by…channeling Mr. Rogers. Pathetic.What sane conservative will (1) vote any more (given the recent obvious manipulation of results) or (2) vote Republican?”

    What on earth do you mean? Define “sane conservative”. Even better ‘sanity’ (apply it to yourself).

  30. @Supply and Demand

    Trump should never cease being impeached until something sticks.

    Silver linings always have an associated cloud. Now that we know that an ex president can be impeached, why not start with the slave owning George Washington.

    It’s obvious that congress needs something to do. For four years we have watched as they attempted to overthrow the selected government of the United States, first with the Russia hoax, and now with Trump hoax.

    There’s a problem. Now that Trump is gone, who are they going to blame for failures? Trumps ghost?

    • Replies: @Jokem
  31. Jokem says:
    @HallParvey

    ‘Silver linings always have an associated cloud. Now that we know that an ex president can be impeached, why not start with the slave owning George Washington.’

    Be careful what you say, they might do it. My impeachment choice would be Barack Obama.
    For the Iran Deal.

  32. saggy says:
    @Ragno

    But how are you going to delegitimize the will of the majority?

    You damned idiot, the ‘stop the steal’ hoax is absurd on its face, and all its proponents have disappeared. Trump is a consummate idiot, yet, he could have produced the non-existent evidence at his trial … but no lawyer would stoop to that idiocy.

    Here is the deal … produce evidence or deal with reality … Biden won.

    • Troll: Ragno
  33. No human document is perfect and the Section 8 Implied powers clause – the “elastic” clause – essentially allowing the Federal Govt do what it thinks is needed to pursue its agenda has been a millstone around America’s neck.

    It’s why we have the debt, the empire, the collapse in civic decency.

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