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“For too long our leaders have failed us, taking us into one regime change war after the next, leading us into a new Cold War and arms race, costing us trillions of our hard-earned tax payer dollars and countless lives. This insanity must end.”

Donald Trump, circa 2016?

Nope. That denunciation of John Bolton interventionism came from Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii during Wednesday night’s Democratic debate. At 38, she was the youngest candidate on stage.

Gabbard proceeded to rip both the “president and his chickenhawk cabinet (who) have led us to the brink of war with Iran.”

In a fiery exchange, Congressman Tim Ryan of Ohio countered that America cannot disengage from Afghanistan: “When we weren’t in there they started flying planes into our buildings.”

“The Taliban didn’t attack us on 9/11,” Gabbard replied, “Al-Qaida attacked us on 9/11. That’s why I and so many other people joined the military, to go after al-Qaida, not the Taliban.”

When Ryan insisted we must stay engaged, Gabbard shot back:

“Is that what you will tell the parents of those two soldiers who were just killed in Afghanistan? ‘Well, we just have to be engaged.’ As a solider, I will tell you, that answer is unacceptable. … We are no better off in Afghanistan that we were when this war began.”

By debate’s end, Gabbard was the runaway winner in both the Drudge Report and Washington Examiner polls and was far in front among all the Democratic candidates whose names were being searched on Google.

Though given less than seven minutes of speaking time in a two-hour debate, she could not have used that time more effectively. And her performance may shake up the Democratic race.

If she can rise a few points above her 1-2% in the polls, she could be assured a spot in the second round of debates.

If she is, moderators will now go to her with questions of foreign policy issues that would not have been raised without her presence, and these questions will expose the hidden divisions in the Democratic Party.

Leading Democratic candidates could be asked to declare what U.S. policy should be — not only toward Afghanistan but Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jared Kushner’s “Deal of the Century,” and Trump’s seeming rejection of the two-state solution.

If she makes it into the second round, Gabbard could become the catalyst for the kind of globalist vs. nationalist debate that broke out between Trump and Bush Republicans in 2016, a debate that contributed to Trump’s victory at the Cleveland convention and in November.

The problem Gabbard presents for Democrats is that, as was shown in the joust with Ryan, she takes positions that split her party, while her rivals prefer to talk about what unites the party, like the terribleness of Trump, free college tuition and soaking the rich.

Given more airtime, she will present problems for the GOP as well. For the foreign policy Tulsi Gabbard is calling for is not far off from the foreign policy Donald Trump promised in 2016 but has since failed to deliver.

ORDER IT NOW

We still have 2,000 troops in Syria, 5,000 in Iraq, 14,000 in Afghanistan. We just moved an aircraft carrier task force, B-52s and 1,000 troops to the Persian Gulf to confront Iran. We are about to impose sanctions on the Iranian foreign minister with whom we would need to negotiate to avoid a war.

Jared Kushner is talking up a U.S.-led consortium to raise $50 billion for the Palestinians in return for their forfeiture of sovereignty and an end to their dream of a nation-state on the West Bank and Gaza with Jerusalem as its capital.

John Bolton is talking of regime change in Caracas and confronting the “troika of tyranny” in Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela.

Rather than engaging Russia as Trump promised, we have been sanctioning Russia, arming Ukraine, sending warships into the Black Sea, beefing up NATO in the Baltic and trashing arms control treaties Ronald Reagan and other presidents negotiated in the Cold War

U.S. policy has managed to push our great adversaries, Russia and China, together as they have not been since the first Stalin-Mao decade of the Cold War.

This June, Vladimir Putin traveled to Beijing where he and Xi Jinping met in the Great Hall of the People to warn that in this time of “growing global instability and uncertainty,” Russia and China will “deepen their consultations on strategic stability issues.”

Xi presented Putin with China’s new Friendship Medal. Putin responded: “Cooperation with China is one of Russia’s top priorities and it has reached an unprecedented level.”

At the end of the Cold War, we were the lone superpower. Who forfeited our preeminence? Who bled us of 7,000 U.S. lives and $6 trillion in endless Middle East wars? Who got us into this Cold War II?

Was all this the doing of those damnable isolationists again?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Rurik says:

    They’re already trying to ‘Ron Paul’ her, which means we should support her, CFR, and Zionist associations notwithstanding.

    She’s the only one saying ‘Enough!’ to the insanity of Eternal War, as America’s infrastructure crumbles, and our progeny are enslaved to trillions of un-payable debt.

    Perhaps there’s no way we can dislodge the Zionist fiend slurping from America’s jugular, but at least we can use our voice to say ‘no’ to it. And support the only person who’s willing to strike at the root, the Eternal Wars for Israel.

  2. Miss Gabbard just served two tours in the ME, one as enlisted in the HI National Guard.

    Brave Mr. Bolton kept the dirty communists from endangering the US supply of Chesapeake crab while serving in the Maryland Guard. Rumor also has it that he helped Tompall Glaser write the song Streets of Baltimore. Some say they saw Mr. Bolton single handily defending Memorial Stadium from a combined VC/NVA attack during an Orioles game. The Cubans would have conquered the Pimlico Race Course if not for the combat skill of PFC Bolton.

  3. Trump is a shabbos goy sellout POS.

    Zion Don hires only neocons.

  4. Biff says:

    By debate’s end, Gabbard was the runaway winner in both the Drudge Report and Washington Examiner polls and was far in front among all the Democratic candidates whose names were being searched on Google.

    Which got the MIC to paint a giant target on her. The Atlantic Council is not going to be happy with this kind of anti war shtick entering the debates, and their patrons own the media.

    • Replies: @turtle
  5. Does Tulsi know she’s lying when she says “al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11”? I suspect she does, and that her disgust with the big lie behind the 9/11-wars-for-Israel has something to do with her anti-interventionism.

    Does Pat Buchanan know? During a radio interview he assured me that his friend Dick Cheney wouldn’t do something like that. I asked Pat’s friend Paul Craig Roberts what he thought. Craig said Pat just can’t go there or he’ll never appear in the MSM again.

    Then Pat got purged anyway. https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2012/02/20/pat-buchanan-avoids-911-truth-gets-fired-anyway/

    When you get punished for telling half-truths, why not just go all the way and tell the whole truth?

  6. Icy Blast says:

    Tulsi is the most popular person in America right now. I hope she has really good security.

  7. nsa says:

    How is the hindoo hotee going to squeeze through the jew media filter if she is unwilling to promote mass murder and chaos in the ME?

    • Replies: @bruce county
  8. renfro says:

    I would hope Gabbard has more sense than to accept any position in Trumps administration.
    Trump is the kiss of death for any decent person who works for or with him.

    • Agree: Realist
  9. renfro says:

    This is so embarrassing .

    • Replies: @Escher
  10. Anon[359] • Disclaimer says:

    Im glad a non-interventionist veteran at least got to make her case for the Democrats. I think Trumps innermost instincts are to avoid as much expense (wars are expensive) as possible, but the investigations and allegations (from Avenatti to the latest ditz who ripped of a Law & Order episode rape script……literally detailed in an article at the Americanthinker.com), and endless unfair media coverage have kinda tied his hands.

    Its obvious to me Trump appointed Bolton and Abrams so he could play “good cop” to their “bad cop” in negotiations with various countries. He is a real estate businessman talking down a potential aquisition in talks, so wait and see if war results. I think Trump is fiscally worried and aware enough to want to really avoid wars if possible (externalities of aid and more refugees are undesirable).

    Tulsi seems personally likeable and is obviously photogenic……..shed be a formidable v.p. candidate this time round (38). Id 10 times rather see her than a Hillary.

    • Agree: Junior
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  11. @Kevin Barrett

    Hi Kevin. I am a big fan of yours but I think that you should market your beliefs about Israel’s role in 911 a bit more modestly. While the evidence is compelling, it is not air-tight.

    This also applies to the Zio-Judaic role in the assassinations of John and Robert Kennedy. You posit (in your otherwise excellent article on the Raptors’ proposed visit Israel) that the Zions basically killed both Kennedys. While this position may be correct, it is an allegation that, at present, cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Your confidence therefore seems excessive. This weakness might therefore turn off average folks to your otherwise astute insights.

    As for Tulsi Gabbard, who you suggest is “lying” about her belief in what/who caused 911, I bet that she (like myself) rejects the Official 911 report but is unsure of what/who did exactly what on Sept. 11, 2001. Mysteries remain. The puzzle is incomplete.

    Allow me to respectfully advise you to stick with what you know for certain, as you do it quite well.

    As for the mysteries concerning 911 and Israel’s role, it may be more fruitful to concede that the evidence has not only been partially destroyed but that a coverup has occurred. And yes, there’s overwhelming evidence pointing to Israeli involvement. And no honest person can deny that.

  12. anon[198] • Disclaimer says:

    “At the end of the Cold War, we were the lone superpower. Who forfeited our preeminence? Who bled us of 7,000 U.S. lives and $6 trillion in endless Middle East wars? Who got us into this Cold War II?”

    You know who, Pat. We all do. “They” were given the keys to the kingdom and, instead of preserving it, they looted the treasury and sold us out for every last nickel and dime, all while turning us against each other in the process. In your memoir, perhaps released posthumously, I hope you tell the world.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
  13. At least she’s better looking than Bolton. But could Trump keep his hands off her?

  14. Junior says:

    The media is so terrified of Tulsi that they digitally added a zit to her face during the debate while she was discussing foreign policy to try to subliminally turn people off to her anti-war message.

    Here’s an article on it showing videos of it happening:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/msm-mean-girls-msnbc-accused-of-putting-a-fake-pimple-on-rep-tulsi-gabbard-during-dem-debate/

    And here’s Tulsi discussing it:

    • Replies: @anonymous
  15. @Rurik

    She’s the one Dem who could tear cishet male support from Trump,
    but it has relatively little to do with her stance on the issues.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Budd Dwyer
  16. Wally says:
    @Robert Dolan

    As if Hillary ‘War with Russia’ Clinton would have been different.

    Trumps foreign policies in obedience to ‘that shitty little country’ are disgusting, no doubt, but we would still have all of that and much worse under Hillary.

    • Disagree: Hail
  17. It’s a charming idea; Pat Buchanan is ventilating. Tulsi Gabbard as Trump’s national security adviser; what a treat! But poor Tulsi, she wouldn’t survive very long in the Zionist environment, which dominates Trump’s White House. Tulsi Gabbard’s foreign policy ideas are anathema to the war-prone Washington establishment and the media class, not to speak of the Israel firster. The anti-Gabbard slur is already underway.
    Tulsi Gabbard was half right by saying that the Taliban didn’t do 9/11, but Al-Qaida did, which is false. None of them committed the murderous attack. Everybody with a clear mind can see of the web of lies and inconsistencies that the 9/11 Commission Report has solidified. The American people have to come to grips with the fact that it was an inside job, and those responsible are still all alive and kicking. The problem with the whole truth is that nobody can afford to tell it, because it would be his or her political death.
    So, Tulsi Gabbard was wise sticking to the half-truth.

    For more information, read “The Betrayal of America.” https://betweenthelines-ludwigwatzal.com/2019/05/21/the-betrayal-of-america/#more-1468

    • Replies: @Agent76
  18. A broken clock is right twice a day. A blind pig finds an occasional acorn. Tulsi Gabbard says something sensible on occasion. But check out this little article–and then try to imagine this Hindu surfer girl in the White House. https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/abraham-williams-tulsi-gabbard-husband/

    • Replies: @Jmaie
    , @druid55
    , @Issar
  19. JimDandy says:

    Thanks, Pat.

    PS

    Trade Pence for Tulsi.

  20. @Kevin Barrett

    “When you get punished for telling half-truths, why not just go all the way and tell the whole truth?”
    I get your point — perhaps he was worried about just how much “punishment” he’d be served up?

  21. 4 of the 5 richest counties in the USA ring the Capital, so pissing away American greatness is working well for its architects at least.

  22. A bunch of high-fiving, Apartheid State’s squatters, recording the onslaught on freedom are not mentioned. They thus are indicative of where Tulsi’s heading; the opposite and wrong direction [no surprise here].

  23. sarz says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Trump is a shabbos goy sellout POS.

    He is definitely a piece of shit. But, as I argued in the comments to Giraldi’s Welcome David Shencker, he’s no goy. He’s a crypto-Jew who obviously identifies as a Jew. Not a sellout, a fraud.

  24. Tom Welsh says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    ‘Does Tulsi know she’s lying when she says “al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11”?’

    She has been showing signs of hedging since her campaign began. I can’t make up my mind how bad that is. If she went on telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth – such as that Mr Assad has done little or nothing to deserve the abuse heaped on him – she might simply be ruling herself out as a candidate.

    On the other hand, once a candidate starts telling herself, “Oh, it’s worth one or two little white lies to get myself elected, because I can do so much good then”, it’s the start of a long slippery slope.

    That specific statement can be justified, to my mind, with a little Jesuitical equivocation. Because no one has ever really pinned down who or what “Al Qaeda” is – or even whether such an organization exists at all.

    If she said, “No one can be certain who was responsible for 9/11, but it’s time we had a really thorough, impartial investigation”, she would alienate a huge section of the voters.

  25. The Twin Towers/9-11 job was an implosion. The explosives were planted in the Core/elevator shafts during normal maintenance and detonated by remote control after the planes hit. The Israelis/jews did it. End of story.

    • Agree: BengaliCanadianDude
    • Troll: TTSSYF, Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
  26. alexander says:

    Go Tulsi !!!

    GO ….GO….GO…!!!!

    Go kick their Asses !!

    For every one of our soldiers who DIED because of THEIR LIES…..GO KICK THOSE NEOCON “CHICKEN HAWK” ASSES !!

    Bust em’ up !

    OORAH !!!

  27. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    “.. our great adversaries, Russia and China”

    There’s almost always something like this tucked into Mr. Buchanan’s columns. The other day, he was still celebrating Uncle Sam’s rescue of medical students from the “Marxist thugs” in Grenada. That little “our” is the key. Pronoun propaganda is one of the ways that this website’s “Mr. Paleoconservative” helps to keep Americans identifying with Uncle Sam.

    Another fundamental way that Mr. Buchanan actually supports the Establishment is by channeling and harmlessly blowing off dissent through “Red v Blue” politics. Enjoy columns like this one in the meantime, but keep in mind that he’s also going to tell you to believe the puppet show and vote (almost certainly GOP) in November 2020. Even if someone who says things like Ms. Gabbard is elected, there will be ample drama in and about Washington to excuse the lack of meaningful change and fire people up for the next Most Important Election Ever in 2022.

    And note this:

    “For the foreign policy Tulsi Gabbard is calling for is not far off from the foreign policy Donald Trump promised in 2016 but has since failed to deliver.”

    Oh, a mere logistical problem due to people like John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, and Elliot Abrams somehow crashing the MAGA party? Mr. Buchanan should have written “the foreign policy Donald Trump lied about in 2016.” But that might lead people to doubt the system.

    • Agree: sarz, utu
    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  28. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Chris Mallory

    …and he defended New York City from the huddled masses (as an infiltrator) from the ramparts of Plato’s Resort!!!

  29. RVBlake says:
    @Chris Mallory

    This echoes the wit of another who exulted that George W. Bush kept the skies over Dallas free of the Viet Cong.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  30. KenH says:

    If she can rise a few points above her 1-2% in the polls, she could be assured a spot in the second round of debates.

    Oi Vey! If Tulsi starts to rise in the polls then then (((they’ll))) create a new dossier and claim she’s colluding with Russia or the Taliban to steal the 2020 election. I wouldn’t be surprised if elements of Trump’s administration did the very same things to Tulsi as Obongo’s did to Trump.

    Was all this the doing of those damnable isolationists again?

    Pat knows (((who))) but has lost the will to say it. But we know. The goyim know.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  31. @mark green

    We, we all have our opinions. I think you’re most charitable to Mr. Barrett’s fictions. Zio-terrorists (I’m not using the word Zionist, since I am Zionist – sort of -because I support the idea of Jewish nation-state as a democratic country) may have contributed (just freely associating), say, max 30% to 9/11, while the possibility of their involvement in the assassination of JFK is way below 5%.

    After all, weird Golda Meir transcripts are something not to be ignored: https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-golda-meir-had-doubts-on-kennedy-death-1.5292291

  32. alexander says:

    Dear Pat,

    May I take a moment on this thread to note the passing of the “great” Justin Raimondo, whose flagship “ANTIWAR.COM” functioned as the single most potent journalist cantilever to MSM lies, we could possibly have, over the past 15 years.

    Justin, just like his creation, ANTIWAR.COM was a “Tour de Force” of Journalistic excellence, giving us all, every day ,a sweeping, cogent LENS on our “War Empire.” ..and all its relentless, self serving lies.

    I am sorry that Justin’s dream of a Restored (and Free) Republic could not come to fruition under his watch.

    May we all redouble our efforts to make it so.

    Thank you, Justin, for your “unparalleled” service …May you Truly Rest in Peace…and may ANTIWAR.COM continue to provide the coverage and commentary so critical to our understanding of what it is …that is being DONE …..in our name.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  33. Haole says:

    She is a Hawaii democrat. She has no opinion on our dem ex police chief and his corruption and drug dealing. Mufi is probably going to pay somebody to bury her in the next election. In 2 years she will be history.
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hawaii-power-couple-convicted-plot-hide-fraud-64008862

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  34. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Rurik

    They will do everything in their power to discredit her and to try to silence her.

    She speaks from authority, serving in the combat zone, and unlike the other Zionist whores who talk tough about war has actually done some fighting.

    It will be very difficult for the whores to portray her as incompetent and out of touch on important foreign policy issues.

    I think Tom Cotton also saw combat?

    Why is he so eager to send Americans to die for Israel?

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Caijoe
  35. APilgrim says:
    @RVBlake

    Did George W. Bush ever solo-fly an airplane?

  36. anon[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @sarz

    > He’s a crypto-Jew who obviously identifies as a Jew.

    Every Christcuck is a crypto-Jew. Following is a small sampling from the Jew Testament of what they believe:

    • 1 Corinthians 5:7 “Christ, our ✡Passover✡ lamb, has been sacrificed.”
    • John 4:22 “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the ✡Jews✡.”
    • Philippians 3:3 “For it is we who are the ✡Circumcision✡.”

  37. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    If she can rise a few points above her 1-2% in the polls, she could be assured a spot in the second round of debates.

    And there’s the rub. With Google fudging the stats in favor of those who would continue down this insane path of endless wars for Israel, Tulsi doens’t stand much of a chance voicing what most Americans want, a stop to these idiotic wars that is destroying our nation within and without.

    If she does get traction and people start responding, Tulsi will join JFK in Arlington. There’s way too much money and power at stake and those that have it, aren’t going to let it go without a battle.

  38. Tulips says:

    I am a registered Green Party voter in NY. Tulsi is a one-issue candidate, but that issue, USELESS, WASTEFUL WAR, over-rides all other issues. War consumes our resources and corrupts our democracy. War with Russia or China terminates the future. Civil rights, health care, jobs, immigration, climate crisis, etc. are not issues if there are no resources, no honesty in government, and no future.

    • Agree: Iris
  39. Her foreign policy stance sounds good. But, I don’t know if I could vote for her simply because the Democrat party is so anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-male, anti-common sense. Wish more people could run as independents.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Rurik
  40. Tulsi is a 100% gun grabber. So while she may be against foreign wars she is all for waging total war against the rights of Americans (everyone really). Her CFR membership suggests to me that she is but controlled opposition. Besides, does anyone really believe that if she gets elected she wont be just another ZOG puppet, albeit one with tits this time?

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @jack daniels
  41. sarz says:

    …the Iranian foreign minister with whom we would need to negotiate to avoid a war.

    The Iranis rightly refuse to negotiate the lifting of the siege that should rightly get the crypto-Jew hanged under Nuremberg. Besides, as they rightly observe, America is demonstrably incapable of keeping to an agreement. To avoid a war, the crypto-Jew has to undo the outrages against humanity he has visited on Iran. Then they might talk, or maybe not, since Trump’s loutishness seems irremediable.

    If Trump cannot undo the mess he has created—for the sake of Israel, not America—then America will have to live with the end of the West when the financial system implodes. This time, unlike Armenia, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen (and many others) it will be apparent that it’s the Jews.

  42. I would support Tulsi but for her belonging to the CFR and her saying in the debate that AL CIADA did 911, when every thinking American knows that Israel and the zionist controlled deep state and traitors in the zio/US government did 911.

    How can she not see the truth about 911, is beyond belief!

  43. If she gets run over by the Democratic machine, she should consider becoming a Republican and run against that mendacious fraud Trump.

  44. DanFromCT says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Pat Buchanan couldn’t last three minutes in a debate regarding the overwhelmingly powerful circumstantial evidence implicating Israel and its American Fifth Column in 911, nor that Israel and International Jewry’s elaborate efforts at concealment provide further, powerful evidence of their guilt.

    The cuckservatives are so cowardly they’ll throw out a thousand years’ hard won development in the relationship between evidence and conclusion, and with it Western Civilization, to avoid having to confront the Jews behind 911. Circumstantial evidence is everywhere accepted—except where advancing it might cause some discomfort among cuckservatives like those at Fox News feeding at the trough of Jewish money.

    The nearly twenty years’ blustering by cuckservatives such as Pat Buchanan has done nothing to stop these endless wars’ morally, physically, and financially bankrupting our country, and we will go down because they did not have the courage to stand up to Israel and its treasonous American Fifth Column.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
  45. Agent76 says:

    Jun 27, 2019 Tulsi Gabbard WINS!

    Why The Establishment Media Is PISSED!!!

  46. I would suggest that Gabbard does know the correct answer and that the correct answer will be the death of her campaign- before it gets (possibly) started- if she were to make that assertion publicly at this time. Any candidate will suffer a similar fate. Trump himself has changed his spots on this, too.

    However, what is far more realistic is that she begin the campaign discourse about Zionisn vs the knee jerk reaction of Anti-semitism to all factual examination of Israeli crimes. Take this rational argument and apply it, first, to America’s belief in Israel’s alleged- and false- strategic importance to American foreign policy and this is the wedge that can be discussed and no longer shouted down. This wedge is already picking up steam nationally.

    It’s easy for Kevin to besmirch Gabbard, when he, like myself and others who write on Zionist issues, have already cashed our chips with the majority of media opportunities as a result of our efforts. We have nothing to lose.

    While I am not a fan of Gabbard-yet- if she does indeed play the long game, and does make it to subsequent debates, only then will we see if she has the conviction to discuss and expose the REAL behind the scenes problem with US worldwide foreign policy. Like Kevin, I am not optimistic, but.. give the girl a chance to show her true colors…whatever they may turn out to be.

    Is there another candidate that has this possibility? She ripped Tim Ryan a new one already using her correct knowledge of Afganistan. Let’s hope she has the opportunity- and does the same- when she is eventually attacked, as is almost certain, that she is an Anti-Semite merely because she is first and foremost pro-American.

    • Agree: Rurik, Miro23
  47. Agent76 says:
    @joeshittheragman

    If you would like a book recommendation with several facts I know a few.

    Sep 11, 2013 9/11 In A Nutshell

    James Corbett presents this 5 minute parody of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  48. @Kevin Barrett

    Pat’s columns are still being read and he appears on Laura Ingraham’s show. His books are still in print. If Pat said that 9/11 was an inside job he would be off the air instantly. Pat is doing the right thing.
    Now here’s an important point: When everyone gangs up on a heretic it often backfires. The neocon challenge is to marginalize Tulsi without looking like bullies and sleazeballs, without making her into a martyr. It’s not that easy. I am reminded of the concept behind Judo: you use the opponent’s momentum against him. What Tulsi needs is what any correct but stigmatized view needs: publicity. Tulsi needs to watch her step and not give them any easy opportunities. She has people like Tucker Carlson and Jimmy Dore in her corner and they get a lot of “views.” I’m not saying Tulsi will be our next President, but she could alter the debate in a major way and really embarrass the neocon establishment if they are forced to use heavy-handed tactics against her like they did with Sanders last time.

  49. @KenH

    Pat is trying to be productive and not be relegated to silence.
    They are already claiming that the Russians support Gabbard, which they probably do, for the same reason we supported Yeltsin. But in the internet age it won’t be easy to pin a ridiculous conspiracy charge on her, and would probably benefit her. If you can get your opponent to overplay his hand, that is always a plus. The neocons have a blind spot in that regard: they overplay their hand quite often, and get away with it because the opposition has no platform from which to call them out. But Tulsi has Tucker and a number of other friendly talking heads to help her cry Foul!

  50. DanFromCT says:
    @DanFromCT

    Regarding my comment, it should go without saying that Jews in general, wherever they live, bear no more responsibility for 911 than the Italians do for the crimes of the mafia.

    • Replies: @Greg Bacon
  51. @Robert Dolan

    Will Tulsi be any different? I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  52. Moi says:
    @Rurik

    Unfortunately, Tulsi does not mention Israel when talking about our wars and policy in the ME region.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  53. @mark green

    Knowledgeable, objective, & honest Mark Green recommended: “Allow me to respectfully advise you (Kevin Barrett) to stick with what you know for certain, as you do it quite well.”

    Hey Mark Green!

    When you comment, I read and always learn. Thank you.

    Likely Kevin knows how the Autumn 2001 ZUS unnecessary attack upon Afghanistan Taliban worked well to help indigenous Drug Lords to raise poppy production for opium production.

    Hm. Are “Homelanders” who suffer national opioid addiction crisis know for sure that the raw poppy product was purchased at bargain cost by Oxycontin producer, the Sackler family?

    Also, as Veterans for Peace member, I learned how American military deployments were stationed in the protective proximity of Afghanistan’s natural gas pipelines, destined for markets south.

    Doubtless, Mark, you know about Afghanistan’s fabled lithium & copper mineral resources, and “no honest person” could deny how ZUS corporations got hungry hands into that. Refer to article below, and as always, my respect to you and K.B.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/

    • Replies: @Wally
  54. Tulsi’s stand on climate change. WTFU America. Another slick talkin’ wolf in sheeps clothing.

    “I support the carbon neutrality goals of the Green New Deal and the awareness it has brought across the country on the critical issues of energy independence and the climate crisis, however, I do not support “leaving the door open” to nuclear power unless and until there is a permanent solution to the problem of nuclear waste. I believe we need to invest in 100% renewable and safe energy sources like wind, solar, and geothermal. I also support a ban on fracking, ending the $26 billion/year in fossil fuel subsidies, as well as all subsidies or waivers to the nuclear power industry, which should itself be completely responsible for paying for its own insurance and paying the long term cost for safe storage of nuclear waste over centuries. I will also work to provide other incentives for a renewable energy economy.” – Tulsi Gabbard – Can you say Agenda 2030?

    https://www.tulsigabbard.org/tulsi-gabbard-on-climate-change

  55. Her position on foreign wars is spot on.

    Her position on immigration immediately disqualifies her from serious consideration. Every other issue is downstream from immigration.

    She crafts her identity around being a Samoan Hindu, not a heritage American. She is not a candidate who prioritizes the interests of working class white Americans. Her immigration policies would work in direct opposition to those interests. She’s spent her life on fantasy island. She doesn’t have the first clue as to what the priorities of a working class white guy are in the midwest.

    She is childless and therefor lacks any palpable investment in the future of the US.

    Her military service is of no relevance. Citing military service is a shallow trump card played to invoke someone’s patriotism in support of an otherwise poor candidate. David French, John McCain, the Bushes, Al Gore, John Kerrey, etc, etc, etc, all served in the military and some saw action but they are/were all terrible people.

    Commenters here congratulate themselves on being at a higher level intellectually, but shift the topic to a female of modest attractiveness and the discussion turns into an a exercise in masturbatory thirst.

    I can just see Trump adding Gabbard to his cabinet: Another metoo moment in the making….

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Miro23
  56. Moi says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Absolutely right, Kevin.

  57. sally says:
    @Rurik

    Exactly what voice do you have? Even if you have the platform and an audience you can do nothing.

    The Article II persons are elected by the electoral college, not the popular vote.. and the Article II persons are the only ones that have any power to act, those two persons control the bureaucracy, the agencies, the military the foreign service, the intelligence services, and the appointment of diplomats. further they can contract and spend your money to get whatever technology they need to wipe you off the face of the earth.
    The popular vote is a fraud, designed to divide and conquer; when used with propaganda and rule of cancellation by debatable issue .. you and your entire 350,000,000 other governed folks have no power to change nothing but your diapers. Example => 9 folks on Island; elect one to be their Israeli

    The Israeli divides the remaining 8 by issues and uses his privately owned media, to polarize the 8 into two groups based on the issues of guns and abortion, look at the outcome of votes.
    democraps and reputaturds. net vote
    for against for against
    guns D R 0
    Abortion D R 0
    Israeli don’t care 1
    who wins the election?

    You can complain all you want but your are constrained by your own constitution.. and they are empowered by your own own constitution..

    I am willing to entertain objection to this analysis.. cause I would love to discover it is wrong.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Rurik
  58. I wrote this in February of 2019 about Tulsi Gabbard:

    Tulsi Gabbard had a good go at her presidential primary town hall events in New Hampshire. I saw parts of one on the internet and was at another one.

    Gabbard’s message of getting the United States out of all this endless, unnecessary overseas war will play well in New Hampshire. In the 2016 New Hampshire presidential primary, Bernie Sanders benefited immensely from Hillary Clinton’s support and vote for George W Bush’s Iraq War debacle.

    Gabbard carries herself very well and has a very composed, captivating speaking style. She has an athletic figure and an easy going manner.

    Unless the internet is wrong, Congresswoman Gabbard has no ancestry from the sub-continent of India, and I’m too lazy to find out how her mother came to be a Hindu.

    I was wrong to suggest she was a Hindu Nationalist, but Gabbard is a veteran of war and politics and she knows she will have to have an answer for all kinds of things when she is asked on the campaign trail. A good presidential primary candidate won’t get rattled or angry, except for effect, when voters or reporters ask them dumb questions.

    I’ll give an example of a dumb question:

    Is Gabbard a Hindu Cashionalist? How much cash and loot is Tulsi Gabbard getting from Hindu sources?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @anonymous
  59. @mark green

    While the evidence is compelling, it is not air-tight.

    Even if it were air tight, that wouldn’t make a difference in selling it. Most people refuse to believe what’s smack in front of their faces if it’s in any way discomfiting, I think.

    The vulgar take little pain in the investigation of truth but readily accept the first story that comes to hand so long as it’s more delightful to the ear than descriptive of reality.

    – Thucydides, The History of the Peloponnesian War Book 1, Chap 1, p 19, (431 B.C.E) Translated by Richard Crawley and updated by Jacques Sheete in the interest of readability.

    • Agree: Wally
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  60. gsjackson says:
    @mark green

    “Overwhelming evidence,” plus no other explanation makes any sense. Enough for me to make a small wager that Israel did it, but not quite bet the ranch. Agreed that it is a shocking account to normal Americans who haven’t been exposed to the theory before.

  61. sally says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Did I not see Tusli in Israel the other day?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  62. @anonymous

    >Pronoun propaganda is one of the ways that this website’s “Mr. Paleoconservative” helps to keep Americans identifying with Uncle Sam

    .

    I love it. Brilliant.

  63. Tulsi Gabbard did not attend the 2019 American Israel Public Affairs Committee meeting in March of 2019.

    Republican Party treasonous rats such as Mike Pence and Mitch McConnell did attend the 2019 AIPAC meeting in Swamp City DC. I won’t sully the great name of Washington by attaching it to that Rome on the Potomac rat hole.

    Mike Pence pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Mike Pence puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the USA.

    Mitch McConnell pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Mitch McConnell voted for Ronald Reagan’s 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Mitch McConnell has shady connections to the Chinese Communist Party and McConnell puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the USA.

    Tulsi Gabbard should be applauded for talking about what is in the best interests of the USA. Gabbard wishes other nations well, but Gabbard puts AMERICA FIRST.

    Tulsi Gabbard has run a good presidential campaign so far and she will do well in the 2020 New Hampshire presidential primary because of her PRO-UNITED STATES and AMERICA FIRST and NON-INTERVENTIONIST foreign policy positions.

    Tulsi Gabbard does well with television and reporters and with groundling town hall participants such as this writer. I disagree strongly with Gabbard on many issues — especially immigration — but I admire her quiet ferocity and obvious but reserved strength of character.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @nsa
  64. Republic says:

    A lot of people get overly excited over this photogenic, veteran, surfing congresswoman with a Samoan father And a white mother.

    Many forget that she is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, which makes her a globalist in good standing .

    Her only redeeming feature is that her anti war position makes it possible for a slight expansion 0f the Overton window, in order words, making it politically acceptable to discuss certain subjects

    Basically what we are seeing in these candidates of the Democratic party during these debates is a picture of our future overlords when the Democrats achieves absolute and Permanent power in the US

    Every future election will have its obligatory Hispanic component, Hindu component, homosexual component, Black component,and transsexual component

    And of course we have seeing for the first time Spanish being spoken on a national
    Political forum

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @peterAUS
  65. The cuskster promised engagement with Russia.
    Then he sold himself to a foreign nation.
    He remakes US as neocon Prussia:
    Poisonous double-cross of a chameleon.

  66. Rurik says:
    @Mr McKenna

    but it has relatively little to do with her stance on the issues.

    That is of course silly.

    That she is somewhat attractive probably doesn’t hurt generally, but I suspect the same people who support her (from my straight, male demographic niche), are the same people who supported Ron Paul’s presidential candidacy, and you could hardly say that was due to boehners from watching the debates, now, could you?

    More here on Tulsi

    Why Tulsi Gabbard Was The Only Democrat Asked A Negative Question Last Night

    the anti-LGBT comments she made as a teenager,

    Even a piece written in her defense uses scurrilous newspeak to describe her comments. (Being opposed to homo “marriage”, is not the same as being “anti-LGBT”. It just means you’re not down for the radical aspects of their extremist agenda, but I digress..)

    Chuck Todd nevertheless saw fit to bring that up issue in front of a national audience being exposed to her for the first time.

    The moderators didn’t raise any other candidates’ past “liabilities,” although plenty of them have what one might consider “baggage,” …

    Unlike Bill de Blasio, who proclaimed last night that Russia constitutes the biggest threat to the United States, Gabbard views that threat instead to be the specter of nuclear war, which has increased as a result of the insane domestic political climate generated by years of Russia-related hysteria.

    This view puts her at odds with much of the establishment liberal media, which has repeatedly attempted to cast her as a Russian stooge, a dictator-loving sycophant, and a brainwashed cult member, among other groundless charges.

    Gabbard was the most-Googled candidate after the debate, and that owes to her eyebrow-raising heterodoxy, which provokes both intrigue and disdain. It’s nothing new for candidates who challenge the Washington foreign policy consensus to be maligned: that’s exactly what happened to Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul in past presidential cycles.

    But Gabbard has a different kind of persona than either of those two, which makes it extra difficult to pigeonhole her into a typical partisan box. So expect the attacks on her to intensify.

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/27/tulsi-gabbard-democrat-asked-negative-question-last-night/

  67. @Jacques Sheete

    Classic observation from the master of history.
    Most suitable to mass media zombified ‘Murika.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  68. I have seen Tulsi Gabbard deal with reporters and voters and town hall questioners, but I didn’t see Tulsi Gabbard deal with Michael Tracey. This Michael Tracey guy is a very contemplative guy who likes to meditate about things of this or that sort. Michael Tracey usually dresses like Cary Grant and he speaks with a plummy Yorkshire accent such as that of James Mason. But Tracey dresses and acts like a presidential primary town hall groundling when he reports on presidential primary politics. Very sporting of him!

    Tulsi Gabbard always behaves in a composed manner when dealing with the public and with reporters.

    Tulsi Gabbard has gone her own way on foreign policy by saying that the USA must resist endless regime change wars and pointless hyper-interventionism. Michael Tracey has gone his own way by not buying any of the Russia hysteria and propaganda emanating from the corporate media and the Democrat Party and the ruling class of the American Empire. It’s nice to see such young puppies as Tracey and Gabbard showing true strength of character by holding strong to their own integrity!

    It’s easier to get people in New Hampshire to talk to you about politics and candidates if you’re dressed like a regular person as Tracey does.

    Trump ought to know that Tracey ain’t a fan of his, but Michael Tracey was highly skeptical of all this Russia — Russia — Russia crud coming out of the Democrat Party and the DEEP STATE and the corrupt and disgusting corporate propaganda media.

    Michael Tracey politely asking Tulsi Gabbard a question on the campaign trail in New Hampshire.

  69. TULSI GABBARD has been the only Democrat Party candidate for president who has been accurate in her depiction of the Russia — Russia — Russia crud as a deceitfully concocted distraction from real issues that face the USA.

    Michael Tracey was also correct in his description of this disgusting fraud about Russia perpetrated by treasonous rats in the DEEP STATE and the Democrat Party and the rancid and putrid whores in the corporate propaganda apparatus.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @RadicalCenter
  70. @Agent76

    Thank you. Brilliant.
    Better than Aristophanes.

    • Replies: @Agent76
  71. onebornfree says: • Website

    “….Only when someone goes to Washington who is determined to clean the
    stables, who values freedom above political power, who has the will to stand fast
    against every politician, only then will the trend turn around — and only then
    will the political battle be won. But it’s obvious that there is no such person in
    two-party politics we can look to.

    Does your favorite President or presidential candidate live up to these standards ?

    If not, perhaps you should reconsider whom you support.

    The all-important first step toward getting smaller government is to stop
    supporting anyone who is making government bigger.”

    [Extracted from “Why Government Doesn’t Work”:
    https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn’t_Work ]

    “The all-important first step toward getting smaller government is to stop
    supporting anyone who is making government bigger.”
    :

    Reality Fact:

    There is NOT ONE current political candidate [including Trump], who is on record as being seriously committed to radically downsizing the US federal government.

    Gabbard, like Trump, and all the other Dems and Repubs [ two sides of the same coin] is just yet another manifestation of more , bigger government, “smoke and mirrors”. Pure deception.

    Bottom line: a vote for Trump, or Gabbard, or any other Demopublican candidate is, as it stands, a vote for an [even] bigger government.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  72. “Who forfeited our preeminence? Who bled us of 7,000 U.S. lives and $6 trillion in endless Middle East wars? Who got us into this Cold War II?”

    Why are you asking your readers, Pat? There’s a comments section right here where some of your readers have asked you a similar question: Who did this, and why can’t you name them?

  73. Tulsi Gabbard is a veteran of the US military who served in George W Bush’s Iraq War debacle and she is pledging to keep the United States out of unnecessary wars that do not advance the national security interests of the USA.

    Tulsi Gabbard is a solid woman of reserve and dignity and she won’t jump onto a counter like that hyperactive and spastic Ritalin kid Beta O’Rourke.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  74. Agent76 says:

    June 02, 2019 Washington’s Mighty Warriors: Draft Dodgers and Scoundrels

    Remember Shakespeare’s line “he jests at scars that never felt a wound?” That epithet could have been written with National Security Advisor John Bolton in mind.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51707-c.htm

    Oct 25, 2016 Honest Political Ads – You’re **cked

    This election season has left most Americans feeling pretty screwed. Good news though, we can make it so we’re not screwed.

  75. Tulsi Gabbard is another American with German and English ancestry. There are a lot of Americans with both English and German ancestry.

    Certain elements within the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire don’t like Tulsi Gabbard because Gabbard wants to put the interests of the United States ahead of the interests of other nations.

    The Neo-Conservatives and many other elements in the Swamp City DC foreign policy scam shop put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States.

    I don’t agree with Tulsi Gabbard on many issues, but I agree with her that the American Empire should be more circumspect in its decisions about going to war.

    • Replies: @Hail
  76. Hail says: • Website
    @Charles Pewitt

    Tulsi Gabbard did not attend the 2019 American Israel Public Affairs Committee meeting in March of 2019

    Which of the twenty D-teamers (primary contenders) attended? Do we have a list?

  77. Rurik says:
    @lavoisier

    They will do everything in their power to discredit her and to try to silence her.

    I just posted an article on her that says that very thing:

    It’s nothing new for candidates who challenge the Washington foreign policy consensus to be maligned: that’s exactly what happened to Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul in past presidential cycles.

    But Gabbard has a different kind of persona than either of those two, which makes it extra difficult to pigeonhole her into a typical partisan box. So expect the attacks on her to intensify.

    >><<

    I think Tom Cotton also saw combat?

    Why is he so eager to send Americans to die for Israel?

    The zio-fiend sifts though every infinitesimal granule of a person’s life, seeking out every hint of data for proclivities or possible compromising information to be used as a weapon to control assets in positions of power. They’ve been doing such things going back to Babylon, and are as adept at it as they are of using fiat money (the shekel was invented in Babylon)

    Money lending and other banking operations, such as holding clients’ money on deposit, arose; also, as well as businesses using debt to finance their activities…

    https://www.timemaps.com/civilizations/late-babylonian-empire/

    – to control and loot entire nations and even empires.

    If you want a man like president Wilson to hand you the keys to the US Treasury, just get some dirt on him. A photo of Wilson (or video of Cotton) having sex with a boy, or some such damning evidence, will surely do the trick, no?

    I can only imagine what they had on McCain. Or Bill Clinton or Donald Trump, or God knows how much blackmailing goes on. Remember the movie L.A. Confidential? And that was just to control L.A. regional politics. Think of the efforts ((they’d)) expend when controlling the entire Western world.

  78. Tulsi is great for foreign policy, but her domestic agenda is too close to the rest of the Dems for comfort, especially on immigration.

    China would be a lot more popular in the US if they stopped sending so many people over to conquer us through immivasion. If Chinese emigrants invade Russia the way they are invading the US, soon the Russians too will grow tired of them and want them gone.

  79. alexander says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    It may be more important to look at it in a different way , Kevin.

    Of all the candidates MOST LIKELY to launch a NEW investigation surrounding the circumstances of 9-11, Tulsi is , far and away, the best bet.

    If powerful “new” evidence came across her desk in the Oval Office, she is the only candidate (I can imagine) who would set up special task force to address it.

    Everyone else is a totally “bought off ” finger puppet of our…. “lie us into war”….. establishment “elites”.

  80. c matt says:
    @mark green

    There is no question of Israeli involvement and instigation. The only “mystery” remaining is what the exact involvement was. Did they recruit the perps? Did they actively participate (e.g., setting charges in the buildings)? Did they (at best) know what was going to happen, and then make sure it did?

    • Replies: @2stateshmustate
  81. @Johnny Walker Read

    Good observation. All it takes is for her to say, “Oh, and PS…no more war” to get the TV addicted voters to shout, “GO,TULSI!” Whatever she says that precedes the PS is instantly discounted as unimportant.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  82. Republic says:
    @anon

    Need a White Nationalist church like the one the late nationalist leader Dr Pierce had created

  83. Bill H says: • Website

    Tulsi Gabbard is a plastic doll programmed to say two things, a recitation of her military service, and anti-war rhetoric. She smiles, but other than her lips moving to display her teeth, no other part of her face moves. She has the motion of a robot. I can almost visualize the computer code that raises her hand to emphasize a point.

    When asked a question about anything, she begins by referencing her military service. when asked, “What do we do about climate change,” her response will begin with, “I am presently a Major in the National Guard…”

    Her foreign policy is “we should not fight useless wars” and “we should not have ditched the treaty with Iran and should renew it.” I agree with both premises, but she has nothing else. Nothing.

  84. Hail says: • Website
    @Charles Pewitt

    Tulsi Gabbard is another American with German and English ancestry

    Surely you are aware that she has substantial Polynesian (and minor other non-European) ancestry? She is not at all part of the racial core of the organic American nation. She does fit in her native Guam and today’s racially-chaotic Hawaii, though.

    (See also analysis of Gabbard’s appearance on Finding Your Roots in Feb. 2019.)

  85. Wally says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    said:
    “… the raw poppy product was purchased at bargain cost by Oxycontin producer, the Sackler family?”

    IOW, they got a volume discount like everyone who buys large volumes of anything does.

    If the Sacklers are so bad then what does that make the producers and sellers of opium?

    You mean the Oxycontin that provides critical pain relief to the seriously & often terminally ill.

    You mean Oxycontin whose formula was changed by the “Sackler family” years ago making it extremely difficult to inject.

    Since when does prohibition work?

  86. Rurik says:
    @Sir Launcelot Canning

    Her foreign policy stance sounds good. But, I don’t know if I could vote for her simply because the Democrat party is so anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-male, anti-common sense.

    yea, but the only ones who’re worse are the cucks in the GOP.

    Oh sure, they say they don’t hate your middle or working class white arse, but then betray you every single time.

    at least the Dems are overt about their hatred for us, and I prefer that to perpetual, certain betrayal.

    America is going down the tubes. That’s a no-brainer. (If you’re smart, you’ll move your White family out). But in the mean time, borrowing ((from the Fed)) unlimited trillions in order to wage Eternal War on behalf of the Jewish supremacist fiends who perpetrated 9/11, is a very ignoble way for a people to shuffle off the stage of their once prosperous and hopeful nation.

    We should at least strive for the dignity of telling the fiend that the blood flowing though the veins of our children, isn’t theirs anymore to drain into the desert sands thousands of miles away from our home. Even as ((they)) malign and demonize that precious, sacred blood with their every feculent breath.

    • Replies: @Realist
  87. Escher says:
    @renfro

    What is Trump thinking, handing over key foreign policy authorities to morons like these two?

    • Agree: Z-man
  88. She’s certainly on the right side regarding endless war. I just hope she’s legit, remember the last 3 presidents all said they were against more war. But even if she isn’t, if she keeps up these anti-war arguments she’s doing a good thing.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  89. c matt says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Another slick talkin’ wolf in sheeps clothing.

    Fox . . . fox in sheep’s clothing.

  90. Let me see she thinks:

    1. murdering children in the womb is ok

    2. she thinks climate change is really soley man made

    3. she thinks that open borders are just nifty

    4. she leans toward a socialist agenda

    5. she is a democrat

    6. she is liberal

    9 she is a democratic liberal

    10. not on a bet

    • Troll: Rurik
  91. nsa says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    “….Rome on the Potomac rat hole…..”
    Jerusalem on the Potomac would be more accurate. Stop insulting the Romans. Cl….Cl…..Claudius showed you how to solve a severe jew infestation. When they don’t back off, Titus showed you what to do about it. Ave Titus, te salutant!

  92. Rurik says:
    @heisendude

    Besides, does anyone really believe that if she gets elected she wont be just another ZOG puppet

    It’s not about her.

    Just as with the 2016 election, it wasn’t about Trump, except insofar as voting for him was voting against the war bitch/fiend/Jewish supremacist iron vice grip on our national/civilizational destiny.

    It’s about us. And telling the war pig, Zionist, supremacist scumfucks to ESAD. [look it up]

    Maybe we are all doomed, but at least we can give them a good taste of

    on our way out.

    • Replies: @turtle
  93. @Wally

    I don’t believe in the lesser of two evils thinking.

    Trump’s lies put white people back to sleep.

    We get jewed no matter which way we vote.

    The jewing is everywhere now, omnipresent, relentless.

    This always ends badly.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  94. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    [[Im glad a non-interventionist veteran at least got to make her case for the Democrats. ]]

    Do you remember what the Jewish mafia fifth column, Trump, said during the fake election:

    I do business with all countries but I do NOT wage war. Dummies voted for him because the fools believed he is a non-interventionist! Now, the fools found out they have been deceived like many times during their voting life. What do you expect from criminal liars who staged 9/11 killing 3000 Americans to FRAME MUSLIMS and bring dummies on board to invade country after country, seven countries in 5 years, for ‘greater Israel’ and geopolitical gain.

    Now, Trump and his Jewish family are trying to advance the project with the help of many criminal zionist Jews and fifth columnists, start with boyish illiterate zionist baby killer Jared Kushner.

    It has proven that Trump like Bush, Obama, Clinton is nothing but a pathological liar.
    Tulsi is the same, if it is not worse. She, like black president Obama, should give more to satisfy his masters, because she is a ‘dark’ female .

    If you need change, then you must destroy the evil empire. There is NO OTHER WAY.

    It is obvious that the dummies cannot and won’t do it because they benefit from killings, robing and raping other nations.
    Therefore, no way left for the VICTIMS expect create a FRONT and go for total destruction of the EVIL EMPIRE and its extension. Start with that illiterate, boyish zionist fifth column, Kushner.

    When there is such a gullible population, then they can be manipulated to commit crimes against humanity, where American population have done for centuries now.

    Tulsi will be another Nikki Haley at the best.

    There is another Jewish mafia fifth column, Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.) who poses as a non interventionist, but she cannot wait to reach the Black house to wage war for the benefit of zionist dicks which should be chopped off.

    [[I think Trump is fiscally worried and aware enough to want to really avoid wars if possible ]]

    The gullible people never learn.

  95. Anonymous [AKA "czytanie"] says:

    ISIS, ISIL , Al Qaeda or whatever the CIA calls itself today poses no threat – these groups exist as Government run propaganda operations. War consists of looting and pillaging and a giant hoax to keep the sheep down. Only dummies join the military unless they work in special ops.

    Tulsi is obviously deep state – first joining the military because she is willing to kill other human beings. Tulsi was trained and appointed to office with big backing from Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing, BAE and Northrup.

    Without war, the American rich would have no income. Without elections, the American rich wouldn’t be able to appoint men and women of peace who will start the next war. Trump told his followers he would bring peace and immediately started launching missiles and threatening nuclear war. His supporters still love this liar.

    Trump, Tulsi and the Walrus all love peace and only perpetual war can keep evil people from ending peace. The voters universally exude hatred, to foreigners and to each other.

    • Replies: @Jmaie
  96. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    This comes as no surprise when one recalls how Mr. Sanders reacted to the purported “Russian interference” revealing that the DNC was cheating against him. Rather than go for the win, he said during a “debate” with his “opponent” that people were “sick of hearing about your da**ed emails.”

    It is all puppet show.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  97. Rurik says:
    @Moi

    Unfortunately, Tulsi does not mention Israel when talking about our wars and policy in the ME region.

    Going full-blown ‘truther’ at this stage, would end her campaign in a nanosecond.

    Let me ask some of ya’ll. How many of you (Americans) are going to see friends and relatives on the 4th? And how many of those, are going to demand that everyone agree that 9/11 was an inside job, or that Israel control’s our federal government?

    You’ll be meet with blank stares of horror from more than half the frolickers.

    Some will be angry, white-knuckled angry that you’d suggest (on the Forth of July!) that America attacked herself!, and not the Muslim terrorists who everyone knows did it!

    ‘What are ya, some kind of Nazi-Muzzie lover?! Don’t be English Bob on Independence day.

  98. @c matt

    I suggest working backwards from the premise that the buildings were deliberately imploded because it’s obvious that they were.

    In that case the 1st question that should come to mind is; could Al-Qaeda have planted the explosives? No, of course not. There’s no way in hell a bunch of Arabs from Saudia Arabia could have planted explosives in those buildings.

    Okay, so that destroys the government’s premise that Osama Bin Laden and 19 Arab hi-jackers did 911. If that’s true then it means 911 was a false-flag attack.

    That leads to the question; what country has the most to gain from increased US military involvement in the ME? You can take it from there.

  99. @Kevin Barrett

    He lives in The Swamp.

    A lot of people just can’t let themselves “go there.” They’ve built their lives and identities around the idea of America. Also, if it were proven true, they would feel the need to act.

    There was a book called The Big Sleep, where Phillip Marlow is hired by a rich old man to find someone who disappeared. The journey led to some unpleasant truths.

    I like the book. Robert Mitchum starred in the 1978 movie. They moved the location to England instead of California for some reason.

  100. @Wally

    On the contrary it takes a very “special” person to risk their own life and assets, their own family and their own country, for the satanic, increasingly risky and self-destructive jewish-supremacist cause.

    Just being a typical-run-of-the-mill-common-ordinary-household-everyday-opportunistic-political scumbag won’t suffice. After all, career politicians such as Clinton didn’t get into politics at an early age to sacrifice themselves for such a “cause”; rather, they do it for their own self-interest.

    So unless a politician is an ideologue willing to die for the cause, or an ignorant and stupid, profoundly mentally ill narcissist who can be manipulated into it (or some combination thereof), that person need not apply for the job of presidential poseur.

  101. @anon

    A slight bit of overgeneralization?

    Statements quoted out of context can “prove” any loony allegation you like.
    Paul taught the opposite of what you suggest he taught.
    He refutes Judaizing interpretations such as yours in the books of Galatians and Hebrews.

    Jesus is entirely correct:
    Salvation is from the Jews: that is,
    The Hebrew prophets foretold the coming of Messiah,
    Who would deliver all believers from the bondage of sin to worship of the only God,
    Who gave His only Son that all might be saved by His blood and His Spirit.

    Christianity is a New Covenant.
    It is not Judaism.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @anon
    , @anonymous
  102. @Wally

    Have to agree again: however bad Trump is, cackling hyena would have been much worse. However, the key point is what can you say about the “democracy” where in every presidential election you get a choice between shit and even bigger shit? Naturally, you are absolutely free to decide which shit is bigger – Deep State wins either way.

  103. Agent76 says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    This is the history most do not know, and thank you for being a person of reason.

    15 November 2018 The CIA’s Intervention in Afghanistan. U.S. Recruitment of “Islamic Terrorists” Started in 1979. Zbigniew Brzezinski

    By Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski and Le Nouvel Observateur; This text was among the first articles published by Global Research in October 15, 2001, in the week following the US-NATO led invasion of Afghanistan on October 7, 2001.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cias-intervention-in-afghanistan-u-s-recruitment-of-islamic-terrorists-started-in-1979-zbigniew-brzezinski/5629070

  104. @Wally

    Haha. Wally opined: ,”If the Sacklers are so bad then what does that make the producers and sellers of opium?”

    Above, late-19th-early 20thCentury profiteer operators of England & US-based opium smoking dens liked “producers & sellers.”😈*

    Fyi,. Off-the-Wall Wall, when the Sackler family first placed Oxycontin on the market, one of the Family delivered a victorious sales pitch insisting that their product would crush the competition. 🙄

    At any rate, please see Jewish Amy Goodman whose uninhibited & featured in the video linked down below, and, uh🤪, Welcome to the Sackler Family Superior Formula, Wally!

    * Here in Scranton, Crack Houses exist, and I compare them to yesteryear’s wrteched opium dens.

    P.S.: Next step beyond pain treatment for even sufferers of dreaded & advanced Rheumatoid Arthritis is time-released morphine sulphate. So stoned, the pitiable & too often poor patients lose weight, struggle to stand sufficiently upright in order to go to the bathroom. I personally witnessed such tragic events.

    • Replies: @Wally
  105. Rurik says:
    @sally

    Exactly what voice do you have?

    I reached you.

    Even if you have the platform and an audience you can do nothing.

    At least I’m bloviating on a (the?) cutting edge, political/philosophical website of note. It may amount to next to nothing, but it isn’t nothing. Nothing would be doing.. well, nothing.

    have no power to change nothing but your diapers

    Gratuitous snide is counter productive, (unless being snide is your point).

    I am willing to entertain objection to this analysis.. cause I would love to discover it is wrong.

    Your ‘analysis’, while coming to some correct conclusions, is haphazard and disjointed and beside the point.

    Your entire spiel about Article II, ignores the ((elephant in the living room)), that controls in virtually absolute terms, the media, the congress, most federal courts, the central banks, most universities of note, several state governments, and so much more.

    As many here have pointed out, our Article II ‘leaders, are not elected, but ((selected)).

    And that is our conundrum.

  106. It doesn’t matter what any of them say. It’s all bullshit. They do analytics and try to figure out what people want to hear and they bleat it out, then when they get into office they do whatever the nose tells them to do.

    How could any intelligent human being witness the Trump betrayal and then continue to believe in the system?

    Trump said lots of nice things, then shit on his base. His main issue was immigration and he totally fucked it up. He didn’t fight for the promises he made. He allowed shabbos Ryan and shabbos McConnell to dictate open borders policy to give the jews what they want to continue the replacement of white people.

    Tulsi would be no different. None of them would be any different.

    There are no political solutions to our problems.

  107. Markster says:
    @Chris Mallory

    I cant say I agree with you on Sergeant Bolton. If you served in the military you must know about command and control. Well Mr Bolton is in the command and control section. He commands “you flank right, you flank left, pin the center down with machine gun fire and I will command and control from my fortified bunker. Your attack will start in half hour which gives me enough time to finish my caviar and biscuits and wash it all down with Dom Perignon “. Mr Bolton always rewards his boys (those who are not maimed or killed) with tinned fish (sold by the military contractors for $7 but available in the US for $0.79c) bread and a cup of what passes for coffee. I can’t help but wonder about these folks who advocate war. Anyone who has ever served in the front line recoils in horror at the thought, the screams of the wounded and mutilated, the rotting stinking corpses, body parts scattered in all directions by a direct hit, having to shit in your pants, the vermin, filth and smell of unwashed bodies, the hunger and thirst and most of all the sheer terror ! To most, waking up in the middle of a cold winter’s night back in the US soaked in sweat and screaming and crying, and the experience of a smell, a sound or a spoken phrase bringing back memories that send one into a funk that lasts for days. It must be nice to wear a nice clean white shirt and suit, sleep under clean sheets in a warm house and send advocate sending young men to the butcher shop. The lucky ones are the dead ! For the maimed and psychologically damaged frontline service was just the beginning. The morons who advocate conflict should suit up and volunteer for any of the small conflicts happening right now around the world. These places always need men. They will be in for a very unpleasant surprise. This game is not a John Wayne, Stallone or Chuck Norris thing where the “hero” says and does cool sh#t. Bolton and Pompeo need to experience the sweet sensation of the battlefield. It might change their perspective unless of course they are psychos and cowards in the purest sense of the words ! Of course neither of them have the balls to face the people they constantly tout as enemies. They send others to bleed and die for their fantasies of glory, power and historical recognition.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  108. @anonymous

    ‘It is all puppet show.’

    I don’t think Sanders was in on the fix; but I think his candidacy was part of the ‘puppet show.’

    I admittedly haven’t bothered to attempt to substantiate this theory, but I suspect that the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton’s campaign staff realized that she couldn’t just be anointed.

    There had to be an opponent — but that opponent couldn’t pose an actual threat. So Sanders’ run was facilitated; the calculation being that he was so far left that Hillary would be able to essentially ignore him and campaign for the general election right from the start. At the same time, he would serve as a figleaf; rather than a coronation, the process of nominating a candidate would appear to be all democratic ‘n stuff.

    Of course, that didn’t completely work out; and now Sanders has become this monster; too big to simply shut out like Tulsi Gabbard, and so far Left that he drags the whole party that way, making defeat in 2020 a definite possibility.

  109. @2stateshmustate

    ‘…But even if she isn’t, if she keeps up these anti-war arguments she’s doing a good thing.’

    Indeed. However much the media ignores it, the responding response to her anti-war message has got to have made everyone in the political class prick up their bunny ears.

    If you come out for war — or in the case of Trump, start it — all your opponent has to do is oppose that war, and he’ll shred you.

    As long as there’s an Israel, the Drang nach Tehran will never go away completely. However, at least pending a really good ‘n bluidy black flag operation, it’s bogged down again for a while.

  110. @Twodees Partain

    ‘…Good observation. All it takes is for her to say, “Oh, and PS…no more war” to get the TV addicted voters to shout, “GO,TULSI!” Whatever she says that precedes the PS is instantly discounted as unimportant.’

    And what’s interesting — and what gives away the power of the Israel Lobby — is how few of the other candidates are adopting this formula in spite of its obvious appeal.

    You would think that if everyone is still using horses to pull their plows, and I show up with a tractor and get five times as much acreage plowed for the same time and cost, that there’d be a sudden flurry of interest in buying tractors.

    When there’s not, you’ve got to look around to figure out what else might be going on.

  111. @SeekerofthePresence

    Most suitable to mass media zombified ‘Murika.

    Fortunately you appear to have used an approved adjective. Take it from me, call ’em nearly anything; just don’t call ’em “rubes”! 😉

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  112. @Colin Wright

    And what’s interesting — and what gives away the power of the Israel Lobby — is how few of the other candidates are adopting this formula in spite of its obvious appeal.

    As proven by the fact that tRump got away with that and much, much, more but then we all know who’s gang he’s in.

  113. @onebornfree

    Agree button already used, and I do agree, absolutely.

  114. anon[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Nothing was taken out of context, and saying that is a lie. I can prove it’s a lie, because you go ahead and claim the exact same quote “salvation is from the Jews” is true, with your verbose SJW-like explainer.

    > Paul taught the opposite

    Evidently not, I quoted the Jewish storyteller Paul.

    >Salvation is from the Jews… It is not Judaism.

    You keep saying that. See deer, make horse!

  115. Rurik says:
    @Robert Dolan

    They do analytics and try to figure out what people want to hear and they bleat it out, then when they get into office they do whatever the nose tells them to do.

    while I agree with the general tone of your comment, I can’t help but remember what they did to Ron Paul, and why – he was a genuine threat to their perfidious treachery and ubiquitous rapine.

    So they shut him out.

    Trump was not favored by the ((PTB)), that’s why so many still hate his guts. Yes, he capitulated, but the voters were able to stick it in ((their)) eye, nonetheless.

    The more they openly malign and smear Gabbard, the more I’ll like her, even it all it amounts to is anti-war rhetoric during the course of the campaign.

    Surely you must agree, that at least having that rhetoric, even if that’s all Tulsi gives us, is better than not having it. All the other Democrats in the campaign gush over the Eternal Wars. If they’ve heard of them at all.

    Generally what I’d like to know from all the nihilists, is…

    ‘What else, besides telling the truth and voicing our pleas for sanity, and spreading the message as far and wide as we humble nobody’s are able to do….

    … would you suggest? This? ~

    may I please remind you all of at least some things voting can accomplish…

  116. Jmaie says:
    @Charles_Martel

    In 2016, I preferred the current Yahoo in the White House over Hilary. I would prefer Tulsi over the current Yahoo or any of her competition.

    What your linked article has to do with her competence is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  117. Rurik says:
    @Colin Wright

    Well-deserved gold border!

    Salient, insightful and icily succinct comment.

    Says it all.

  118. @Robert Dolan

    “Trump said lots of nice things, then shit on his base. His main issue was immigration and he totally fucked it up. He didn’t fight for the promises he made. He allowed shabbos Ryan and shabbos McConnell to dictate open borders policy to give the jews what they want to continue the replacement of white people.”

    Trump is a special kind of evil, uniquely useful to jew madmen at their now or never moment, and that’s why he’s president and not Clinton.

    “Tulsi would be no different. None of them would be any different.”

    If so why did they have to take out JFK and RFK? And George Patton? And probably Pat Tillman and Princess Diana to name a few more threats?

    Why didn’t Obama move the embassy to Jerusalem? Why didn’t Obama “give” Syrian land to Israel? Why didn’t Obama try to start a war with Iran? Why did Obama change the drone warfare rules of engagement to try to reduce “collateral damage”?

    They’re not all the same. Can you imagine Tulsi Gabbard on national TeeVee telling the world that Iran has to be destroyed? I can’t. She is not going to willingly start WW3 for jew madmen.

  119. Mulegino1 says:

    Tulsi Gabbard’s main sins (in the eyes of the kosher mainstream media) is that she is smart enough to repudiate the stupid wars that the U.S. government has gotten into since at least the beginning of this century, and her belief that it was Saudi Arabia, and not the Taliban that carried out 9/11. She got that half right. The Taliban was not involved at at all, and Saudi Arabia may have had a financial role in funding the fake hijackers, etc. Unfortunately, she is not willing to go the full nine yards and admit Israeli (and U.S.) involvement in the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon. But she does go further along than the rest of the candidates. This merely shows the paucity of intellect and perspicacity of the American political class, i.e., when telling half truths incite

    Trump is certainly ignorant of geopolitical matters, but he is surprisingly reasonable enough (so far) not to respond to the downing of a drone with the unleashing of the Third (and final) World War. Unfortunately, his “America First” position is being worn down by his Jewish fetish. Any goy that brags about his Jewish grandchildren is shabbos to the max.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  120. @Jacques Sheete

    Although I, personally, have high regard for rubes.
    The Beverly Hillbillies had more sense than anyone in DC.
    Perhaps some of Granny’s recipes could cure them of their swamp fever.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  121. @Robert Dolan

    How could any intelligent human being witness the Trump betrayal and then continue to believe in the system?

    If you come up with an answer to that, please publish it, and please let me know.

    Who can argue with Carlin about the system?:

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=carlin+the+system+sucks&view=detail&mid=890A9B403C6A30A43179890A9B403C6A30A43179&FORM=VIRE

  122. @anon

    指鹿為馬

    “Go right to the source and ask the horse….”

    • Replies: @anon
  123. Greg Bacon says: • Website
    @DanFromCT

    Regarding my comment, it should go without saying that Jews in general, wherever they live, bear no more responsibility for 911 than the Italians do for the crimes of the mafia.

    After the Germans got blamed for the what didn’t happen, the fraudulent holocaust and have been paying thru the nose ever since, then it’s fair to blame Jews in general for the Israeli masterminded 9/11 False Flag, which did happen.

    The only question left to settle is how much reparations money will Americans get to claim from Jews and Israel?
    I’d say about 6 gorillon dollars.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  124. alexander says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s a good point.

    On the other hand, Tulsi had to almost completely skip over the question posed to her, to make her case against war of aggression , clear and unambiguous.

    It was she, not NBC, who pulled that rabbit out of her hat.

    I think true success for our belligerent oligarchs is when “no one” brings up (or critiques) our catastrophic wars, at all.

    If they can “mass murder” half the world while bankrupting its wealthiest nation …and no one says “boo”…..They got it made!

    Tulsi does not seem to care “one iota” if the deep pocket war profiteers pass her by.

    She doesn’t want them around ,anyhow….and to the best of my knowledge, she never has.

    Why is that, you may ask ?

    Maybe it’s because she see’s them for what they really are, an enemy of both the integrity and solvency of the People of the United States.

    I say….” more power to her !”

    I hope she wins the candidacy…by a country mile.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  125. Tulsi Gabbard fails the litmus test on 9/11 by claiming that Al Qaeda was responsible for the demolition by pre-planted explosives of the Twin Towers and building 7, neither the Taliban nor Al Qaeda were behind these ” false flag” events .

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  126. Paul C. says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Does Tulsi know she’s lying when she says “al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11”? I suspect she does, and that her disgust with the big lie behind the 9/11-wars-for-Israel has something to do with her anti-interventionism.

    Yes she knows. She also knows that if she mentions the truth, she’ll be labeled an anti-semite and a female version of Hitler. Every rag newspaper and media outlet will treat her truth as a pariah and will universally condemn her to the point where her campaign is over and possibly any future political prospects.

    That’s our reality in this 5th column controlled world. Most of us (Kevin aside) use handles and not our real name for fear if our true feelings were known, it could impact our livelihood. She has to “play the game” in order to advance and then perhaps at some date, work to reveal the truth through other means (a real investigation of 9/11, etc…).

    It would be wonderful if Pat Buchanan at this stage of his career spoke 100% truth. I suspect he likely has financial considerations which continue to keep a lid on him. It would be a wonderful patriotic act that hopefully he’ll consider.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski, Rurik
  127. I think her position on needless conflicts. She has not outlined what a needless conflict is, But at least she is in the ball park of positioning.

    Now defining when we need to go to war can be tricky. But if I have a choice between protecting the border and duking it out with liberals who think we should make war to stop rape in some countries and republicans who think they have insight into the minds of which Mulims would better rukle — as if —-

    then before going to war, I am going to ensure the security of the borders. Now lest there be any mistaking the differences between the candidate and most of you on war making

    1. I openly opposed invading Iraq and Afghanistan and needless and lousy strategies,. I paid a very heavy price and I would pay it again. While we had to address the issues of Al Quaeda invasion was a very bizarre choice and counter productive — and sadly history thus far has made that point.

    2. So if the candidate like many of you cheer led invading Afghanistan — your critical thinking on the ,matter is no better than those you call warmongers. Let’s be honest Iraq did not require a sixth grade education to see the folly.

    But where the US is going to fail is her identity and war making will not change that unless we decide to fight the right war — the right war first.

    ————————————–

    “How could any intelligent human being witness the Trump betrayal and then continue to believe in the system?”

    I am not sure about the system but,

    I’ve got

    High Hopes!!!!!!!!

    I’ve got

    High Hopes!!!!!!!!

  128. @alexander

    She has zero chance of getting the nom.

    TBH, it’s a miracle they let her speak out against jew wars.

    If she were to win she’d probably just have an “accident” anyway.

    • Replies: @alexander
  129. @Mulegino1

    “Trump is certainly ignorant of geopolitical matters, but he is surprisingly reasonable enough (so far) not to respond to the downing of a drone with the unleashing of the Third (and final) World War.”

    I think that view is a little too optimistic and too “generous” to the evil orange clown. The decision to not attack Iran after the downing of the drone was probably nothing more than a temporary tactical retreat, IMO.

    Orange clown and his handlers may have been hoping that Iran would shoot down the spy plane, or at least shoot down the drone in international airspace, but Iran didn’t take the bait. So as evil as they are, the elders probably nevertheless felt that a bloodless, manufactured incident with a demonstrably false narrative wouldn’t be quite enough of a pretext to start WW3, especially when the prospect of better pretexts in the near future looks promising.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  130. alexander says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I know exactly what you are saying….but I disagree.

    As a matter of fact ….I think she is the only candidate out there, who matters.

    I hope she gets the nomination……and The White House !

    She might turn out to be the best President the United States has ever had !

    But hey, I am just one vote.

  131. @Rurik

    Perhaps we should all make small donations to the anti-war voices in the White-Hating Party’s primary: Tulsi G and even ancient Mike Gravel, just to have more people slamming the nondefensive non retaliatory US wars, occupations and belligerence.

    I have.

    Get those two into the second round of debates according to number of donors.

    Tulsi being young, reasonably attractive, a veteran, and importantly in today’s Dem party, nonwhite, who knows if she could deny a first-ballot win to warmongering establishment scum like Biden and Harris. Probably not, but we would be somewhat less bad off if people are in the mood to vote Dem, with her instead of the others. To the extent that she both believes what she’s saying and doesn’t sell out when threatened.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  132. druid55 says:
    @Charles_Martel

    What’s your oint? Better than allthe Zios in administration destroying this country

  133. Mulegino1 says:
    @Harold Smith

    You could be right. I have no expectations for Trump with respect to foreign policy, other than not being quite as bad as the most rabid neocons.

  134. @JimDandy

    How about trade Pence for Rand Paul, with Gabbard as Secretary of State?

  135. And Mr. Buchanan’s unnecessary hat trick of promoting her as if she would win the nomination and then lose to President Trump is probably bare naked manipulation that won’t fool a soul] —

    Laugh.

    Well, maybe some souls. She will have salience with younger and progressive voters with her position of realigning support for Israel that is less caustic and knee jerk, but that will be a serious hurdle among democrats.

    And should she pull it off — in the general it is more than doubtful she could prevail, not in today’s climate.

  136. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:

    I can’t believe there are so many here who think she is the real deal. Just because she utters some platitudes about matters which she understands many Americans want to hear… no foreign wars, bring back the troops, etc.? I thought the pompous orange-utan also said similar things, before getting elected. What happened with that?

    How come nobody seems to focus on the core of her beliefs? The fact that she was practically raised in a hindoo cult…

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-campaign.html

    Former members of the Science of Identity say that Butler (Tulsi’s spiritual guru) has always craved legitimacy for his group among mainstream Hindus, and that he has come closest to achieving this through Tulsi Gabbard’s relationship to Narendra Modi.

    Perhaps being an Islamophobe is a desired qualification for being crowned POTUS nowadays, but is it the primary one?

    The hindoo Manchurian candidate as the POTUS. That will be interesting. Lol!

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @Art
  137. Jmaie says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Tulsi’s plan:

    I believe we need to invest in 100% renewable and safe energy sources like wind, solar, and geothermal. I also support a ban on fracking, ending the $26 billion/year in fossil fuel subsidies, as well as all subsidies or waivers to the nuclear power industry, which should itself be completely responsible for paying for its own insurance and paying the long term cost for safe storage of nuclear waste over centuries.

    Oh the horrors. Do you think we should continue fossil fuel subsidies? And what is wrong with renewable energy? Contra the green nutjobs we’ll always have a need for hydrocarbon fueled vehicles and power plants, but reducing the demand for these products will if nothing else lower their cost and extend the supply. Personally I’d like to see improved infrastructure making electric vehicles feasible for a much larger share of the public – they accelerate quite nicely, handle extremely well (battery under the floor pan gives a phenomenal center of gravity) and are quite cheap to drive ($.03 / mile including maintenance for my Leaf vs. $0.32 / mile for my Pilot). And nuclear plants *shouldn’t* be subsidized either.

    She’s wrong on fracking, I’ll give you that.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  138. KenH says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Her position on immigration immediately disqualifies her from serious consideration. Every other issue is downstream from immigration.

    As far as I can tell it’s mostly downhill after her respectable foreign policy positions. She’s also no friend to the embattled white majority.

    Not invading the world while still inviting the world is no solution. But if you point any of this out you get mercilessly attacked by the Tulsitards.

  139. @Charles Pewitt

    I’d say Gabbard and Yang didn’t sound like morons.

    They at least sounded intelligent, straightforward, and not (yet) empty suits parroting the party line and relying on grievance politics.

    Having said that, I don’t relish a choice between trump/Cheney-I-mean-Pence and still excessively-left yang or Gabbard. Seems like a good year to vote third-party, at least if like me you live in a non-swing State (most obviously California, New York, New Jersey).

  140. Jmaie says:
    @Anonymous

    Tulsi is obviously deep state – first joining the military because she is willing to kill other human beings.

    I don’t want a president who isn’t willing to kill other human beings…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  141. @Wally

    Hey Wall; Who Proudly Stands Behind Trump’s Dis-achievement, No Border Wall!

    Fyi, t-Rump was about ready to appoint my “Homeland” state GOP Representative, Tom Marino, as “Drug Tsar” until stoned skeleton conduits of painkiller contributions 🤑 were found in Marino’s honey pot. Haha.

    Fyi, Oxy-Tom, Esquire, resigned and is off to bigger success in the private sector! Refer below, Wally?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/marino-opiods-pennsylvania-congress.html

    Selah, Tulsi, “no ‘mo painful ZUS war” until of course Israel commands, “go, go ‘fo it!”

    • Replies: @nsa
  142. peterAUS says:
    @Haole

    Haole, a?
    How is reverse racism going on in Hawaii? Especially “natives”/browns vs whites?
    And, has the girl ever had any any comment on THAT? If so, could you, please, point to some links?

    Interesting, on a boring side, is that I haven’t seen THAT element mentioned anywhere here when discussing the greatness of the girl as a President.
    I mean….if she tolerates certain attitude in Hawaii, are “we” really that stupid and desperate to believe she wouldn’t tolerate the same attitude in US (or world, when you think about it) in general?
    Even support it?

    What do you think?
    Oh, BTW, don’t care much what the rest here think about it. Nothing personal guys, just prefer experience and “man on the ground” concept over …ahm….great thinking. Just me.

  143. alexander says:

    Can anyone imagine where the US would be today had we NOT squandered 21 trillion dollars of our national solvency on illegal catastrophic wars throughout the middle east ?.

    Our nations balance sheet would be so outstanding, everyone and their uncle would be clamoring to buy our bonds and our dollars.

    There would be no reason to even question the role of the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency.

    We would have trillions of dollars in our piggy bank, more than enough to unleash multiple initiatives… from infrastructure and education , to health care and manufacturing.

    We would have clean cities, diminished poverty, a vibrant dynamic populace with a burgeoning middle class. Future generations would be endowed with the promise of an even brighter future.

    There is no doubt that our military would be “best in class” too.

    What if we were the standard bearer for international law, not its rogue” bully” regime who just lies and goes on “mass murder” binges whenever it feels like ?

    Imagine how the world would look at us ?

    Imagine how we would feel about ourselves ?

    Tulsi Gabbard holds that promise for us all.

    I just pray its not too late.

  144. peterAUS says:
    @Republic

    Basically what we are seeing in these candidates of the Democratic party during these debates is a picture of our future overlords when the Democrats achieves absolute and Permanent power in the US.

    Yep.

    Good thing, of sort, “we” will then, at last, start thinking about possible solutions.
    Will it be too little and too late, well, we’ll see.

  145. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Jesus is entirely correct:
    Salvation is from the Jews: that is,
    The Hebrew prophets foretold the coming of Messiah,
    Who would deliver all believers from the bondage of sin to worship of the only God,
    Who gave His only Son that all might be saved by His blood and His Spirit.

    “His only Son,” who is also “God.” Thus the “only God” doesn’t really appear to be the only “God,” yeah?

    But wait, we know how that happened, right? The only “God” simply reincarnated into “His only Son,” so essentially they are the same. oookay…

    Lol! Duffers! *shakes head*

  146. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @anon

    The Israelites were “chosen” for the birth of the Messiah, our Savior, hence our salvation did come “from the Jews.” That simple truth about the lineage of our Savior does not negate the hundreds of God’s other condemnations of the Jews. That simple truth about the lineage of our Savior is not God’s endorsement of Pharisaism or its post-Christian derivative Talmudic Judaism.

    A parallel. The Jews “voided” the Mosaic Covenant and made up their own Master Race creed. Aryan “Christians” ape the Jews, but void the New Covenant with their own Master Race creed.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @anon
  147. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    Tulsi will never be allowed to replace Bolton unless she grows a moustache. Netanyahu has gotten too used to the tickle of Bolton’s moustache on his derriere and isn’t going to give up on that satisfying sensation without a fight!

  148. @alexander

    Democrat motto: We are the world.

    Republican motto: The world is yours.

    Illogical result: The Democrats own us.

    • Replies: @alexander
  149. Z-man says:

    Pat Buchanan, my liege. (Grin)

  150. @heisendude

    Tulsi is far from my ideal candidate but we need to keep in mind that there is a limit to how conservative a Democrat can get without being bounced from the party. Hawaii is a very liberal state and no Republican has a chance there, so Tulsi had to sign up with the Dems. Once on board she had to play ball with the national party. The main thing about Tulsi is that the issue on which she deviates potentially embodies a major defeat for the American Ruling Class. If the neocons can finally be cut down to size, doors will quickly open on many other fronts. As a “woman of color” and Hindu, Tulsi is a hard target for the Dem Establishment, who are not nearly as radical as they pretend. The fact that all of them have retreated on the crucial issue of war and peace in addition to abandoning the white working class suggests to me they are basically gofers for the usual crowd trying to hide behind flashy sexual radicalism and race-baiting.

    • Agree: Harold Smith
  151. nsa says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Wally is typical of the homosexualized drug addled America of 2019…….he would rather stare at and listen to a gassy fat old senile lying eunuch with the intellect of an eighth grader for the next four years than enjoy the good looks, nice shape, and calm demeanor of the exotic hindoo hottie babe. Of course she will eventually disappoint, but at least we get a few solid sex fantasies out of the deal. Or maybe the bulk of white GOP American maledom creams over dreams of topping the flabby wrinkled old jew eunuch, Trumpstein…..or even worse getting bottomed.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Wally
  152. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Is Gabbard a Hindu Cashionalist? How much cash and loot is Tulsi Gabbard getting from Hindu sources?

    Why, whatever the following scumbags can muster… and let me tell you, their billionaire hindoo nationalist masters back home (Ambani, Adani, Narayanamurthy, and many more) can arrange truckloads of the Benjamins…

    The Republican Hindu Coalition is expected to announce its endorsement of Gabbard for the primaries on Monday, said its chairman Shekhar Tiwari. The community is excited about both Harris and Gabbard and Democratic strategists worry they may split the community.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/first-hindu-lawmaker-in-us-congress-tulsi-gabbard-to-officially-launch-2020-white-house-campaign-on-february-2/story-x38gSjPopXsNaz2rkc0QrI.html

    Something else related;

    https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/tulsi-gabbard-2020-hindu-nationalist-modi/

  153. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    You are beginning to sound like a paid advertisement.

  154. @anonymous

    ‘“His only Son,” who is also “God.” Thus the “only God” doesn’t really appear to be the only “God,” yeah?

    But wait, we know how that happened, right? The only “God” simply reincarnated into “His only Son,” so essentially they are the same. oookay…

    Lol! Duffers! *shakes head*

    Keep thinking this way and you’ll convert to Islam.

  155. @Chris Mallory

    It was great when she called Bolton and his ilk “Chicken Hawks!”

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  156. @peterAUS

    ‘…What do you think?
    Oh, BTW, don’t care much what the rest here think about it. Nothing personal guys, just prefer experience and “man on the ground” concept over …ahm….great thinking. Just me.’

    Yes — but where is this preferable candidate?

    It’s the same thing as with Trump in 2016. When the alternatives are all worse, whattaya gonna do?

    We can vote for Gabbard or Sanders — or we can just face facts and move the Oval Office to Tel Aviv. That last would save time and expedite the relay of decisions.

    The Democrats can nominate someone who will stand for an independent America — or it’s Trump again. I never said I like any of these choices. I’m just choosing between bad and worse.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  157. @RadicalCenter

    ‘How about trade Pence for Rand Paul, with Gabbard as Secretary of State?’

    Don’t forget appointing Ilhan Omar our ambassadrix to Israel.

    • LOL: RadicalCenter
  158. RobinG says:
    @sally

    Some think you make great comments. You do have fans in the “Hopeless” camp.

    ‘More AIPAC Than J Street’: Kamala Harris Runs to the Right on Foreign Policy
    The California senator’s hardline positions on Israel-Palestine point to a dangerous disregard for international law.
    https://fpif.org/more-aipac-than-j-street-kamala-harris-runs-to-the-right-on-foreign-policy/

  159. @Markster

    Man, I agree with you. I would give Bolton a parachute and a rifle and kick him out over some 3rd world hellhole.
    The way I usually describe combat is to tell the “war is glorious” moron to cover himself in feces and blood, stay awake for 96 hours, eat once during that time and lay there in the dark listening to your best friend cry for his mama while he tries to keep his guts from spilling out on the ground after the piece of shrapnel unzipped him like a fish.

    I might have been a little rough on the Nat Guard, I respect the Guard. But I have no respect at all for men (sic) like Bolton who played games to keep from being sent to the wars they love.

    Yes, wars do sometimes need to be fought. But honestly, I can’t think of one since we pacified the red savages that roamed our shores that needed one drop of American blood wasted on it.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  160. Wally says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Yes, many people OD on many substances every day. A tragedy, but so what? Do you know anyone who wants drugs, but cannot find them?

    Prohibition does not work, but the cartels love it, and the all controlling Big Government uses it to seize tons of taxpayers cash and limit individual rights.

    [MORE]

    For ca $10.00 you can kill yourself with a huge jug of cheap vodka, of course you are silent about that.
    So let’s arrest the distillery owners!
    Sugar can cause diabetes, so arrest the sugar companies?
    Tobaccos causes cancer, so arrest the tobacco sellers!
    Get the pitchforks!

    Your PBS video (LOL) is all talk and no proof that the Sacklers committed crimes.
    And the one clown is trying to sell a book. LOL!
    I’m shocked, drug companies are competitive. Get out of here.

    The overwhelming numbers of opioid / opiate deaths are via fentanyl & heroin, and as stated, oxycotin can no longer be injected thanks to the Sacklers.

    Your subject change to the 19th century is desperate and irrelevant.

    summary:
    Addiction of all kinds are no doubt bad news, but as old as the hills. The hard fact is that people want drugs, alcohol, hookers, you name it, and there will always be those who will give them what they want.
    Let them have what they want, let them take responsibility for any negative outcome.
    Let privately run charities provide treatment centers for those who need them, like they used to.

    Big Government’s opioid hype is really just another scam for massive taxpayer ‘funding’ for a problem that will never go away, but hey, Big Government loves taxpayers cash. Trillions have been spent and nothing has changed. The War On Drugs is a fraud.

    Welcome to reality Chuck.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @anarchyst
  161. @follyofwar

    It was great when she called Bolton and his ilk “Chicken Hawks!”

    It always makes those chickens squawk to point out that Ted Kennedy had more time in uniform then they did. And I hate Ted Kennedy as much as one man can hate another.

  162. @nsa

    Hey Bro nsa!

    Wally is ill, lonely here @ U.R. comments, and he suffers from Trumpstein Disease 👍, haha, for which there is no help but for doubling down on Sackler’s Oxycontin Supreme product.

    He drugs himself with t-Rump’s “many achievements,” and something does tell me Wally could not handle Tulsi Gabbard in the Lincoln bedroom. 💃 That is of course minus double hits of Viagra & Cialis. Haha.

    Thanks & my respect.

    Selah, CODAH and Brahma.

  163. Wally says:
    @nsa

    Yep, you’re another who obviously can’t refute what I post.

    Indeed, I preferred Trump to the 2016 alternative, Hillary.

    Indeed, I prefer Trump to the 2020 alternatives.

    Undercover video shows Democrat operatives admitting they incited violence at Trump rallies

    fact: As said on numerous occasions, I dislike Trump’s Zionist mandated ‘foreign policies’.

    Next.

  164. alexander says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Hahaha.

    Good one, I like that.

    But let’s be honest…. both parties function today as nothing more than blue and red lipstick on the humongous feral pig of our larcenous, treasonous ,22 trillion debt, perpetual war machine.

    Our candidates really don’t care about the American people, or the United States.

    They have been carefully groomed to cater only to their “forever war” paymasters, and taught to lie through their teeth about nearly everything else.

    Look at what a mockery the DNC debates have become.

    What a joke.

    The whole thing , including the network it aired on , has become a total farce.

    The only thing REAL was what Tulsi had to say.

    God bless her !

  165. Agent76 says:

    Jun 28, 2019 “I’m Not Sure I’m A Democrat Anymore,” Democrats Move Too Far Left

    A Washington Post reporter tweeted during the Democratic Debate last night that someone said they aren’t sure they are a Democrat anymore because the party has moved so far to the left.

  166. I have been behind Congresswoman Gabbard from the start.

    She is intelligent, articulate, and a joy to look at for her elegant beauty.

    However, I do not see how she will be able to surmount the entrenched Democratic Culture that will work to thwart her rise among the many hopefuls in this party.

    Because she is a highly intelligent woman, she will not be understood by the majority of the American citizenry, who for the most part are ignorant dullards, which is why we got the Moron Trump in the first place.

    Ms. Gabbard is also the only candidate on the both sides of the aisle, who when asked about her stance on Israel, refused to provide the same sense of support that so many US politicians appear to enjoy lavishing on this tiny but barbaric state…

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  167. peterAUS says:
    @Colin Wright

    When the alternatives are all worse, whattaya gonna do?

    Depends on who you are.
    For most people, and definitely majority here, yes, vote Tulsi by all means. Or whoever.
    Free will and such.

    For some people, tiny minority at the moment but….hehe….in time I am sure it will get bigger and, more importantly, better, the alternative is to start thinking beyond voting game.

    Now, the only thing I am not sure about is: will it be too little and too late?
    Gut feeling: probably.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  168. @anonymous

    “I can’t believe there are so many here who think she is the real deal.”

    First, let’s define “the real deal.” Given the present world situation, anyone not willing to risk killing themselves and their family, and destroying their country – in pursuit of the jewish-supremacist agenda for world domination and control – IS the real deal, IMO.

    “Just because she utters some platitudes about matters which she understands many Americans want to hear… no foreign wars, bring back the troops, etc.?”

    No; because the odds are that she’s not the criminally insane homicidal/suicidal maniac the jews need right now in their desperate now-or-never moment.

    “I thought the pompous orange-utan also said similar things, before getting elected. What happened with that?”

    What happened is he’s a con man; and not just any con man, but a criminally insane con man who’s evidently easily manipulated into taking risks that only a madman would take…in pursuit of the diabolical jewish-supremacist cause of course.

    “How come nobody seems to focus on the core of her beliefs? The fact that she was practically raised in a hindoo cult…”

    Maybe an analogy will help here. Let’s say you’ve just had a massive heart attack and you’re in the hospital emergency room lingering at death’s door. Luckily for you an expert cardiologist happens to be at the hospital when they wheel you in. Are you going to let him try to save your life while there’s still time, or are you going to need to thoroughly investigate his “core beliefs” first?

  169. @Colin Wright

    True observation:

    chapter 112 sura

    In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.

    1. Say, “He is God, the One.

    2. God, the Absolute.

    3. He begets not, nor was He begotten.

    4. And there is none comparable to Him.”

    https://m.clearquran.com/112.html

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  170. alexander says:
    @Budd Dwyer

    Okay…okay.(horny dog)

    But lets think about it “another” way.

    When was the last time we had a “surfer” in the White House ?

    Surfers, above all else, are cool ….very , very cool !

    I like that !

    • Replies: @Budd Dwyer
  171. @SeekerofthePresence

    Although I, personally, have high regard for rubes.

    I generally do myself especially since I’m one of them. There are good rubes, bad rubes and many grades in between.

    I’ve learned not to call any of them “rubes,” however.

    PS: I don’t classify granny as a rube. She was a pretty sharp cookie as I recall.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  172. Oh man…..you people think she’s great because she’s pretty.

    She’s an open borders nut just like every other lib and she’s no friend to white people.

    She volunteered for the military and fought for the zionists on behalf of Israel.

    One of Trump’s campaign promises was no more stupid wars in the ME, then he hired every
    neocon he could find, and even brought back Abrams from the dead. That is proof positive that the nose runs the show.

    The awful truth is that the president doesn’t really matter all that much, and it doesn’t matter what the candidates say, because when they get into office they will do what the nose tells them to do, or they will wind up ruined or dead.

    In the time of Christ people walked on eggshells for “Fear of the jews,” and nothing has changed since that time.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  173. @Steve Naidamast

    Because she is a highly intelligent woman, she will not be understood by the majority of the American citizenry, who for the most part are ignorant dullards, which is why we got the Moron Trump in the first place.

    Run for cover!!!

  174. @Wally

    All & all Wally is just another brick in
    t-Rump’s non-Wall, and haha, he said: “Prohibition does not work, but the cartels love it,”

    Prohibition of ZUS wars for Israel does not
    work, but the empowered D.C. Neoconservative war “cartel” loves ’em!

    (Zigh) Retreat to CODAH, Wall…, and for others assembled here, clean & sober, 😏linked below is an article which provides evidence of Trumpstein’s effort to ratchet up attacks upon Iran

    https://apnews.com/d0a8fe7f91924bb69a6c5936e3acd30f

  175. Miro23 says:
    @mark green

    As for the mysteries concerning 911 and Israel’s role, it may be more fruitful to concede that the evidence has not only been partially destroyed but that a cover-up has occurred.

    Looking at this in a straightforward way – as a crime, there’s enough evidence to arrest and question the people involved. In the normal way, let them give evidence and plea bargain to get at what really happened. This is a well tested procedure to get at the truth – and if it goes that way, let it lead to a trials for conspiracy to commit murder and treason. Criminal conspiracies are a daily occurrence in US courts.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  176. @Colin Wright

    That doesn’t follow at all. It’s quite possible to conclude that both Christianity and Islam are fabricated nonsense.

    At least Jesus didn’t claim to receive revelations from God that told him and his followers to kill, rape, and subjugate nonbelievers. Or to take another man’s wife, LOL, Muhammad you shameless dog.

  177. @SeekerofthePresence

    Yes, couching conclusory assertions in flowery language, then repeating them with great certainty and sanctimony, makes them logical arguments. Well done.

  178. @anonymous

    Why? Simplistic monotheism is for bozos. In more refined traditions you have:

    Being: Nirguna Brahman; Deus Absconditus; To Hen
    God: Saguna Brahman; Deus Revelatus; To Hen as Theos
    God-Man: Avatar; Logos; Nous

  179. Rurik says:
    @RadicalCenter

    we should all make small donations to the anti-war voices in the White-Hating Party’s primary: Tulsi G

    I’m not even sure what Tulsi’s ‘white hating’ cred amounts to.

    She likes universal medical and pays lip service to green energy and other things, but I didn’t hear her say ‘open the borders’ or ‘reparations’ or any of that lunatic idiocy. Does she hate whitey? Is there any evidence?

    vote Dem,

    Now that would be a hell of a leap for me. I support Tulsi’s campaign, and hope its explosive popularity puts massive pressure on Trump to rein in and leash the pigs of war.

    But actually pulling the lever for a Dem for potus?!, would require a yuge 180 degree U-turn in their whole ‘fuck whitey!’ agenda.

    I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, I’d just have to see evidence. Supporting Tulsi in the primaries, is I think a very smart and prudent thing to do, but pulling the lever for a political party that overtly wants to castrate every male on the planet who resembles me, would require a great leap. I doubt I could do it, under the present Democratic – hatred of whitey on acid- personification and rhetoric.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  180. RobinG says:
    @peterAUS

    Everyone already knows you’re a troll/

    ….hehe…. better … to start thinking beyond voting game.

    So are you on the Soros payroll to incite a color revolution here?

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  181. There is a buzz about Tulsi in spite of the controlled media’s desire for her not to win the nomination.

    However, Tulsi Gabbard is an illegal candidate as is Kamala Harris. See how and why:

    https://truedollarjournal.blogspot.com/2019/06/illegal-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-beat.html

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  182. Miro23 says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Her military service is of no relevance. Citing military service is a shallow trump card played to invoke someone’s patriotism in support of an otherwise poor candidate. David French, John McCain, the Bushes, Al Gore, John Kerrey, etc, etc, etc, all served in the military and some saw action but they are/were all terrible people.

    True enough. This a card, but it’s not a Trump Card -it’s been debased by McCain, Kerry etc.

  183. alexander says:

    Out of curiosity,

    How many people believe Israel will conduct a military first strike on Iran in the event trump won’t do it ?

    Then force the US to engage Iran, in defense of Israel ?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  184. @Robert Dolan

    “One of Trump’s campaign promises was no more stupid wars in the ME, then he hired every neocon he could find, and even brought back Abrams from the dead. That is proof positive that the nose runs the show.”

    The nose runs the show because the evil orange clown lets the nose run the show; it’s very simple.

    “The awful truth is that the president doesn’t really matter all that much..”

    Then please explain: Why didn’t Obama move the embassy to Jerusalem, or give Syrian land to Israel, or withdraw from the INF treaty or try to start a war with Iran?

    The apparent truth is that it does matter who’s president; that’s why the jews had to assassinate JFK, RFK and George Patton.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  185. Rurik says:
    @Miro23

    911 and Israel’s role,

    there’s enough evidence to arrest and question the people involved.

    guys..

    Pining for this is like hoping for an actual investigation of JFK. The people who perpetrated the crime are the ones who seized power following the coup. In the case of 9/11, they used the crime as a pretext to create a Total police surveillance state. Check out companies like Amdocs and others.

    Israel has penetrated every last shred of our intelligence and communications and surveillance, which amounts to near total power over our law enforcement institutions, many of which are trained directly by Israel.

    There isn’t going to be any actual investigation of 9/11, save a coup by some rogue generals (the best ones have all long ago been purged), getting together with Europeans (purged) and Russians and other rogue saviors of Western civilization.

    But that is highly unlikely. They’re busy making laws all over the place making it illegal even to criticize Israel, do you think they’re going to allow an investigation into the crime of the century, when most people of intelligence know ((who)) did it?

    Congress has the ultimate investigative powers in the ZUS. What are the chances they’re going to subpoena the BBC or Fox News producers to find out who handed the report of Building Seven’s collapse to the journalists? Find out the providence of those reports, and you’re getting somewhere. But that is simply not going to happen.

    They won’t even investigate the put options placed on AA right before the attack, and that information is easy to get, if they wanted it. But they don’t.

    So the paradigm (or matrix or zeitgeist or whatever you want to call it) that we’re all marinating in, is one of accepted, universal Zionist mendacity. From top to bottom.

    When Ehud Barak said, on 9/11 – hours after the attack- everything was going to be different from now on, he was right. A murderous psychopathic Jewish supremacist, but right.

    If you go on Talmudvision and tell the truth about 9/11, it would be no different than standing up at your 4th of July get together, and telling everyone that in no uncertain terms, Israel did 9/11.

    You’d be ostracized and scorned, even if done politely and with tact.

    But there’d be no tact or politeness if you were to do so on the Talmudvision.

    They’ve assassinated a lot of people for doing a whole let less. Think Udo Ulfkotte, Seth Rich, Michael Hastings, Gary Webb, Dr David Kelly, and on and on…

    We have to work with what we’ve got, and within the yes, existing Overton Window. We can push the envelope, as they like to say, and work to expand it, but we can’t overturn the apple cart, not yet.

    Plato was right about the cave. They (not just the ((PTB)) will want to kill you.

  186. Rurik says:
    @Harold Smith

    that’s why the jews had to assassinate JFK, RFK and George Patton.

    RFK.?

    I’ve seen no cogent evidence that they offed RFK.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  187. @Rurik

    I’m with you. I’ve never voted Dem for president and wouldn’t consider it now — mainly for precisely the reasons you mentioned.

    But we might be wise to vote in the Dem primary for someone who at least claims they’ll try to cut our massive military spending and rein in our endless aggressive wars.

    If people are crazy enough to put a Dem in, at least let that Dem prez be one with a small chance of moving in the direction of peace, realism / nonintervention, and the big taxpayer savings that come with it.

    • Agree: Rurik
  188. onebornfree says: • Website

    This ONE THING Makes Tulsi Your ENEMY:

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @Paul C.
    , @Chris Mallory
  189. She supports Open Borders like all the other Anti-White Dems……

    She’s not going to get elected.

    Jewish Supremacists have seized back control of the American Political System after the Alt-Right hit a One in a Million Shot in 2016……

    It won’t happen again.

    Prepare accordingly……

  190. Saggy says: • Website
    @Robert Dolan

    Trump said lots of nice things, then shit on his base.

    Nearly everyone on the planet knows that Trump’s character is non-existent. Generalizing from Trump to every other candidate is silly.

    Further, I was not fooled by Obama, I was not fooled by Trump. I think Tulsi has character.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  191. @anonymous

    “His only Son,” who is also “God.”

    Here you state the central mystery of the Christian faith:

    “I and My Father are one.” John 10:30

    In the Nicene Creed, the Church’s foundational statement for 1700 years, we read:

    [MORE]

    “I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth and of all things visible and invisible.

    “And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages. Light of light; true God of true God; begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father, by Whom all things were made; Who for us men and for our salvation came down from Heaven, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man.

    “And He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried. And the third day He arose again, according to the Scriptures, and ascended into Heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead; Whose Kingdom shall have no end.”

    Thus the “only God” doesn’t really appear to be the only “God,” yeah?

    The point of Jesus’ incarnation is that he does appear to be the only God:

    “No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.” John 1:18

    Because Christ makes visible the invisible God,
    we can come to know and love God through His Son.

    After Christ died and rose from the dead, and now sits at the right hand of God,
    He sent the living Spirit of God on Pentecost Sunday. The infilling of His Spirit is what gives the Christian their joy. We do indeed laugh, not in mockery, but in enlightenment and rebirth in Jesus’ name.

    “In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
    “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” John 1: 4, 12, 13.

    If you approach god through rational categories like number, you will get only so far.

    “God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 4:24
    “And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.” 1John 5:6

    If we open our heart and spirit to Him,
    He will come to us and fill us with His wisdom, life, and joy.

    “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.” Matt 7:7 All vss NKJV.

  192. @alexander

    ‘How many people believe Israel will conduct a military first strike on Iran in the event trump won’t do it ?

    Then force the US to engage Iran, in defense of Israel ?’

    I was going to say Israel will never attack Iran herself, openly.

    …then I read your second paragraph. Yeah — if she could be sure the US would come in.

    …that would be the trick. I’d recommend a false-flag attack to kick things off. The evidence I’ve seen is that Israel may not be averse to killing a few Jews for a good cause.

    But why not just mount the false-flag attack on the US? Of course, there, the repercussions of exposure would be fatal.

    But again, that hasn’t stopped Israel in the past.

    Personally, I wouldn’t have cared to have been on the Abraham Lincoln a couple of weeks back.

    • Replies: @alexander
  193. @Rurik

    “I’ve seen no cogent evidence that they offed RFK.”

    I see it the other way around: I’m not aware of any exculpatory evidence suggesting that it wasn’t a jew crime, therefore (all things considered) I must assume that it was.

    If the JFK assassination was a jew crime, then the jews obviously couldn’t allow RFK to be president any more than they could allow Jim Ennes (USS Liberty survivor) or Richard Gage (Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth) to be president, right?

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Rurik
  194. @Budd Dwyer

    Well, that pretty much clinches it.

    Aside from the minor detail that Kamala Harris is a willing servant of evil, if we must have a female person-of-color as Presidentrix, I’d far rather spend the next four years looking at Tulsi Gabbard than at Kamala Harris.

    ‘Vote Tulsi 2020. Looks matter.’

  195. @JimDandy

    Trade Pence for Tulsi.

    I second that. Pence is the second in command behind all of Trump’s Zionism. He answers to the Zionist mastermind, Kushner. Both need to go for 2020, along with Pompeo and Bolton.

  196. @sarz

    Trump is a shabbos goy sellout POS.

    He is definitely a piece of shit. But, as I argued in the comments to Giraldi’s Welcome David Shencker, he’s no goy. He’s a crypto-Jew who obviously identifies as a Jew. Not a sellout, a fraud.

    When you consort with scum, you become scum. Trump deals almost solely with Jews his whole career, his lawyer was a Jew, his accountant was a Jew, his daughter married a Jew. He is for all intents and purposes, a Jew.

    • Replies: @anon
  197. @Jacques Sheete

    I stand corrected. Heck of a lady.
    Goes double for Elly May.

  198. Art says:
    @anonymous

    Just because she utters some platitudes about matters which she understands many Americans want to hear… no foreign wars, bring back the troops, etc.? I thought the pompous orange-utan also said similar things, before getting elected.

    (Sarcasm on)

    Hey (290),

    You are the man – no one can fool you – when she says “Netanyahu” in a derogative manner – she is shilling for AIPAC – when says “Saudi is not our friend”, watch out – she is on the Armco payroll – when she says “Bolton and Pompeo” are neocons and warmongers – stiffen your back.

    I hear you man – Trump was lying – so is she. There is NO good in this world – period. Only the stupid dare to hope for peace.

    After all she is not white and she is a Hindu princess – when she volunteered for the Army after 9/11 – that was a head fake to get elected President.

    Yo man – you the guy – all these UR folks that are supporting her are fools who want Peace – SucKers!

    (Sarcasm off)

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  199. alexander says:
    @Colin Wright

    The point of concern is that even with an overwhelming percentage of Americans adamantly opposed to yet another catastrophic war, and even with an administration extremely reticent to start one,….. we are “not” out of the woods.

    An Israeli first strike, followed by a counter strike by Iran, would (I believe) pull us all right into the fray.

    I would not be surprised if this issue was, in fact, discussed between Putin and Trump, at their last meeting.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  200. @Art

    Here’s the thing……she could be solid and sincere…..but the (((deep state))) always seems to win no matter what.

    It doesn’t matter if Trump was sincere but flipped, or was shabbos goy from the start……he still turned out to be a loser in the end.

    I remember seeing a great clip on Youtube that detailed how Brit politicians lied to their people, over and over and over and over all through the years…..it was stunning……the leaders would say they were going to stop massive immigration……then they’d get in……and mass immigration would continue or get even worse. The clip showed the speeches and then showed the graphs and numbers…..horrifying and sad.

    We are getting the very same treatment. In fact, the entire western world is getting played.

    I don’t think it’s overly cynical to think that politicians lie to get elected. And it isn’t cynical to have figured out that jews use money as a form of control, and this explains the sellout behavior of shabbos goys like Paul Ryan, John McCain, Marco Rubio, Beto, Biden, etc.

    Someone in another comment was extolling the virtues of Obama, claiming he didn’t sellout to the jews. C’mon! The jews put Obama into office. GS money filled his coffers. Geffen and Spielberg showered the magic negro with money and adulation. The jews loved that black prick.

    Obama gave Israel tons of money, when they ran out of bombs to drop on Palestinians, Obama sent an emergency supply of bombs asap. Obama also did massive drone strikes and wiped out entire neighborhoods in the effort to nail “terrorists.” Obama might have signaled resistance to the nose, but in reality he did pretty much what they wanted, as do all politicians that want to continue breathing on this earth.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @Art
    , @Harold Smith
  201. Rurik says:
    @Harold Smith

    then the jews obviously couldn’t allow RFK to be president

    yes, very excellent point.

    It’s just I had always heard that Sirhan Sirhan admitted to the killing.

    • Replies: @mark green
    , @Ians
  202. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Al Liguori

    Your excuse making has been weighed in the balance and found wanting. Quit out-sourcing your salvation to the Tribe, cuck. If Jews can provide salvation, White men can do it better.

  203. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    At least Mr. Ed isn’t out-sourcing his salvation to the Jews. Not that a horse needs salvation any more than a human, since they share the “same fate.”

    Ecclesiastes 3:19-21 Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; humans have no advantage over animals. All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return. Who knows if the human spirit rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?”

    If you imagine that you need salvation or money lent or sex, just don’t outsource it to a Jew, OK? It’s OK to be White.

  204. @Colin Wright

    “When there’s not, you’ve got to look around to figure out what else might be going on.”

    Yes indeed. it begins to appear that she’s the designated “peace candidate”. In these times there always has to be one, since the percentage of voters who are sick of forever war has grown and has to be lured into supporting somebody for the electoral sham to go on.

  205. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    Holy Hook says: “The Jew First!” (Romans 1:16)

  206. @RadicalCenter

    At this point, I would like to trade Trump for Silky the Pimp, or some other NYC street character. How much worse could Silky be?

  207. Paul C. says:
    @onebornfree

    As much as I like her anti-war voice, this video makes an excellent point. (((The powers that be))) may anoint her as the next Obama, in order to finally disarm the greatest threat to their continued world domination, the American public (once awakened). They’ll continue the gun hoax events and maybe some are false flags, but use her for their purposes.

    This is likely why they chose Trump. He comes across as a patriot and can do things that the American public would never accept under Hillary, such as the Real ID Act. They’re giving us cattle mandatory ID cards. Trump has also green lighted 5G, which is a military weapon that facilitates mind control at best and is a kill grid at worst.

    The criminals in control have enslaved us and are in the process of thinning the herd.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  208. @alexander

    “Tulsi Gabbard holds that promise for us all.”

    Typically, a US politician “holds that promise” between his/her knees and it falls to the floor as soon as those knees open for Israel. Gabbard is a US politician. Let’s not forget that.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Jacques Sheete
  209. Art says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Here’s the thing……she could be solid and sincere…..but the (((deep state))) always seems to win no matter what.

    First – we must be honest, the fight is with the (((Jew deep state))). War and peace involving America is a Jew matter.

    For the first time since 9/11 – peace was cheered in a political event. That is only a start. Jews have been working for 70 years to collar America.

    Tulsi Gabbard cannot do this on her own. Where are we – are we just saying “sorry – give it up – cannot defeat the bad guys?”

    Backing Tulsi is about finding peace – this is not solely about her.

    Think Peace — Art

  210. @Budd Dwyer

    Who’s that homely chick on the surfboard?

  211. @John Gritt

    Thanks for the link. There’s a very candid picture of Tulsi for all of those who rave about her looks, as well. Her husband provides plenty of airbrushed pics of her for the MSM, and I suppose that’s where all the swooning over her comes from.

    • Replies: @Hail
  212. Memo to Pat: Trade Trump for Tulsi
    Played out right winger arguments against Tulsi:

    Shes a gun grabber!
    Who banned bump stocks again? Obama? Who are those pushing “red flag” gun confiscation? What a load of mental midgets the “conservatives” of this country are. I don’t remember Obama banning anything after Sandy Hook. Turn off the Alex Jones. Trump says “take the guns first, worry about due process later” HAHA! You better worry about Trump and his owners getting a second term. He’s already done more harm to 2nd amend than Obama the radical Muslim communist according to you geniuses.

    Shes an open borders socialist marxist communist!
    Same with immigration. Where have you been for the past few decades? Just because the “conservatives” say they are against something doesn’t make it so retardo. Obama the Muslim communist still holds the record for most illegals deported. that is a fact. Trump and the GOP want MORE not less legal and illegal immigration, H1B’s? Trump and Kushner love em.
    Better turn off the Fox news folks, they get paid to blow smoke up your ass 24/7.

    Don’t like mass immigration? End the wars, end the sanctions (siege warfare), stop overthrowing socialist govts in Latin America that take care of their citizens, end the drug wars, shut down the CIA, DEA, and all the other agencies that only make problems worse.

    You should also seriously consider learning how our capitalist system works, if the rich capitalists that run America, including all the capitalists in Congress and the White House, did not want and NEED these immigrants, there would be no immigrants, if they did not want and NEED these wars and looting, there would be no wars or looting. Capitalism is all about exploitation. Exploitation of natural resources and human labor. Capitalism requires a permanent underclass of poor people to allow the system to continue. Imperialism is the highest (advanced) stage of capitalism. All of this bullshit is in fact the very definition of late stage capitalism. Deny it all you u want, blame Israel all u want, they do play a role, and share some blame, but your real problem is closer to home.

    Go look at who is running all those health “insurance” companies before the next time you go bashing socialism. As much as you guys hate Jews, it should make your blood boil to see who is getting filthy rich off your”insurance” premiums. Check out who is buying up all your farm land, food, and water supply, the likes of Monsanto, go and study their history. Same with pretty much all of the ponzi scheme that we call an economic system. But the boogieman communists scare you! LOL!

    I’ll give Bernie or Tulsi a vote next time, I think the two would be unstoppable, Tulsi appeals to the right and left, Bernie gets the young vote. Will they fix this country, probably not, might be an improvement. We need some serious protests, boycotts, worker strikes, bank runs, civil disobedience and probably some good ol fashioned violent revolution, think Bolsheviks, before anything really changes in this rotting nation. Sad! But true…

    Trump has spent his entire term pandering to Wall St, the MIC and yes Israel, maybe he should run for Prez. there, they certainly love him. Maybe banning guns is what you idiots need to get you off the couch and pull your heads out of your asses and fight back. Stop fighting with your fellow slaves for once, you share a common foe.

  213. @Jmaie

    It has to do with imagining a Hindu surfer girl in the White House. If that happens, I hope to hell the Chinese invade and save us from ourselves.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  214. renfro says:

    INSTEX now operational…

    Iran Leaves Door Open to Pause in Its Nuclear Escalation as Europe …
    https://www.wsj.com/…/europe-broadens-support-for-iran-nuclear-deal-11561722873
    7 hours ago – European officials confirmed at Friday’s meeting that a trade mechanism, known as Instex, was now operational and was starting to process its …

    EU’s Mogherini Says Special Trade Mechanism For Iran ‘Operational’
    https://en.radiofarda.com/a/eu-mogherini-says…for…operational-/30022302.html
    2 days ago – INSTEX is a new European payment system for barter-based trade with … I believe now this is ready to be operational ….

    China confirms….

    Chinese official says E3 told counterparts at Joint Commission #Instex is now operational and said China said is interested in third party involvement. Also said China doesn’t accept US zero oil exports policy for #Iran. Says Iran oil important part of China energy security

  215. turtle says:
    @Rurik

    Ah, a Southern “bird.”*
    The best kind. 🙂

    *If you do not know the difference between a Northern “bird “and a Southern “bird,” I am sure as hell not about to attempt to “enlighten” you, because that would be damned nigh impossible.

  216. turtle says:
    @Biff

    Ms. Gabbard will be lucky to survive.
    Sorry to say, I fear for her safety.
    May she live to tell the tale..

    • Replies: @Art
  217. Charles says:

    She may be a fine person, a patriot, she may possess qualities of leadership – but probably, the truth in this case is that most of her appeal is because she has a really pretty face.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @turtle
  218. Hail says: • Website
    @Twodees Partain

    airbrushed pics

    Her substantial Polynesian ancestry can be partially concealed with various tricks, but alas not always. (23andMe result for Tulsi: 31% non-European, of which the great majority traces to Polynesia/Samoa; 61% NW European; 8% Other-European and/or general-European).

    The links says Gabbard is not a Natural Born Citizen:

    Gabbard likely is an illegal candidate and never could swear the oath of office of the presidency of United States.

    Tulsi Gabbard was born in Leloaloa, American Samoa. American Samoa is an unincorporated territory of the United States. As an unincorporated territory, it is a possession of Congress rather than any of the states.

    Being under the control of Congress, as an unincorporated territory, any citizenship an American Samoan has comes from the force of law. Currently, Congress designates American Samoans as U.S. nationals and not U.S. citizens.

    Gabbard is a U.S. national by force of law under 8 U.S. Code § 1408. Nationals but Not Citizens of the United States at Birth, specifically, 8 U.S. Code § 1408.1

    Tulsi Gabbard with husband (a racially-ambiguous man who goes by the name Abraham Williams):

  219. Art says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Gabbard is a US politician. Let’s not forget that.

    Oh my — why try — of course we are defeated before we start!

    Thanks Twodees – for saving us from our hopes.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @RobinG
  220. Hail says: • Website

    I’d just like to point out that this thread is on track to be the most-commented-upon Pat Buchanan article of 2019 to date. The current number-one is April’s “Mayor Pete and the Crackup of Christianity‘ (241 comments), and this (Tulsi Gabbard) one may have about 230 comments as of this writing.

  221. @Robert Dolan

    “It doesn’t matter if Trump was sincere but flipped, or was shabbos goy from the start……he still turned out to be a loser in the end.”

    It actually does matter, significantly, especially for someone trying to predict what’s likely to happen and who may be making important decisions accordingly. For example, if his campaign was a calculated bait-and-switch fraud from the beginning, that implies that he is far more evil than someone that was somehow pressured into something, thus he is likely going to do much more damage.

    On the other hand if he can be “flipped” once he can theoretically be flipped back the other way, right? But if the plan from the beginning was to attack Iran for example, then he’s going to do it, catastrophic consequences be damned.

    “Someone in another comment was extolling the virtues of Obama, claiming he didn’t sellout to the jews.”

    If you’re referring to me, I said no such thing. In an earlier comment you claimed that there is no difference whatsoever between presidents, and I used Obama as an example (compared to Trump) to prove your statement wrong; that’s all.

    “C’mon! The jews put Obama into office. GS money filled his coffers. Geffen and Spielberg showered the magic negro with money and adulation. The jews loved that black prick.”

    Did I say otherwise? No. My point was that orange clown is WORSE than Obama, just like LBJ was worse than JFK, for example.

    Obama wasn’t willing to risk starting a catastrophic war with Iran – which could become WW3 – but orange clown apparently is. That’s a significant difference, wouldn’t you say?

  222. @Rurik

    Sirhan has repeated confessed to killing RFK. Sirhan explains that it was RFK’s “hypocrisy” concerning ‘human rights’ (in Israel/Palestine) and RFK’s slavish devotion to Israel that made Sirhan (a Palestinian refugee) despise Kennedy.

    I certainly understand why Sirhan would want Kennedy dead.

  223. Art says:
    @turtle

    Ms. Gabbard will be lucky to survive.
    Sorry to say, I fear for her safety.
    May she live to tell the tale..

    Tulsi Gabbard has the same enemies as JFK had almost 60 years ago.

    The foreign policy establishment, the CIA, MIC, and the Jews.

    Chilling & Scary!

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  224. I don’t trust her pacifism. In fact I trusted more Trump’s call for peace during the election campaign than hers now. What was she doing in the army if she is a hippy type pacifist? And she isn’t a real Hindu. She’s a follower of some offshoot of the Hare Krishna sect once popular among hippies set up by a freak who went off on a strong acid trip. Here’s who her guru is:

    http://www.prem-rawat-bio.org/nrms/gurus/chris_buttler.htm

    Obviously a bunch of lunatics and unprincipled to the core.

    But what I find appealing is that her calls for peace, just like Trump’s earlier, may contribute to the spread of such a mood in the general public, and perhaps disappointment later on when the politicians don’t live up to their promises isn’t such a bad thing. Or perhaps the electorate is just as hypocritical as the politicians that lead them?

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @Art
  225. @Charles_Martel

    ‘It has to do with imagining a Hindu surfer girl in the White House. If that happens, I hope to hell the Chinese invade and save us from ourselves.’

    As always, ya gotta consider the alternatives. Besides, who were you comparing her to? The last president we had that I could actually respect was George Bush Sr.

    A Hindu surfer girl doesn’t sound any worse than the general run of what we’ve been getting.

  226. @Commentator Mike

    “What was she doing in the army if she is a hippy type pacifist?”

    Seriously? For that matter you could also ask: What was Ed Snowden doing working for the corrupt U.S. government in the first place? Or why did Chelsea Manning enlist in the U.S. Army?

    And the answer is: Some people actually learn from their experiences; they become disillusioned with what they see and they have the guts to face up to it and speak out against it.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  227. @alexander

    ‘An Israeli first strike, followed by a counter strike by Iran, would (I believe) pull us all right into the fray.

    I would not be surprised if this issue was, in fact, discussed between Putin and Trump, at their last meeting.’

    I also think that’s why Russia shut down Israel’s GPS net for a bit.

    …just to let them know they can turn off Israel’s electronics for a spell…if Israel gets her US puppet to try anything, all those Hezbollah rockets are going to hurt.

  228. Art says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I don’t trust her pacifism. In fact I trusted more Trump’s call for peace during the election campaign than hers now. What was she doing in the army if she is a hippy type pacifist?

    I don’t think that she is a typical hippy pacifist type. I believe that she true to the desire for Peace. But that she is also a true patriot.

    But with that said – I believe that she has no use for Saudi Sunni Wahhabism (likewise Zionism).

    After all it was Zionism and Wahhabism that did 9/11 – causing her to join the Army.

    Think Peace — Art

  229. Art says:
    @mark green

    I certainly understand why Sirhan would want Kennedy dead.

    Good god — another great lose to America because of the Jews.

    Do No Harm — Art

  230. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    “Leading Democratic candidates could be asked to declare what U.S. policy should be — not only toward Afghanistan but Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jared Kushner’s “Deal of the Century,” and Trump’s seeming rejection of the two-state solution.”

    Where’s Iran?

  231. Anonymous [AKA "Jar"] says:
    @Anon

    “I think Trumps innermost instincts are to avoid as much expense (wars are expensive)”

    Other countries pay through dollar domination USA’s domestic comsumption and endless foreing wars.
    In fact all the the costs of the USA.

    Taxation in the USA is only for to control inflation and for camouflage.

  232. Ron Unz says:
    @mark green

    Sirhan has repeated confessed to killing RFK. Sirhan explains that it was RFK’s “hypocrisy” concerning ‘human rights’ (in Israel/Palestine) and RFK’s slavish devotion to Israel that made Sirhan (a Palestinian refugee) despise Kennedy.

    Actually, I think there’s absolutely overwhelming evidence that Sirhan was merely a “patsy” and RFK was killed by a “conspiracy,” presumably involving the people who didn’t want him to reach the White House and investigate JFK’s death.

    Among other things, the LA Coroner revealed that the fatal bullet wound came from the wrong direction and many more bullets were fired than were in Sirhan’s gun.

    All of this was covered in a very convincing fashion by highly-regarded mainstream journalist David Talbot in his book Brothers, which I’d strongly recommend. Numerous other writers have covered similar ground over the years.

    • Agree: renfro, bluedog, turtle
    • Replies: @Ians
    , @mark green
  233. Haole2 says:
    @peterAUS

    Tulsi being part of Hawaiian Dem party means she accepts a level of corruption and backwards Ness the rest of the country would find shocking

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  234. @Harold Smith

    I can understand Snowden being a patriot who became disillusioned but she was raised in this loony cult. This could end up being worse than Rajneesh and his Orange Order sect getting into local politics in the US, if anyone remembers. Her boss is her guru, her loyalty is first to her guru and not her country, and if she joined the army it was because her guru ordered her to do so, and if she got into politics it was because her guru ordered her to do it. That’s how it works with these sects and she never left or went for deprogramming of their brainwashing.

    medium.com/@lalitamann/an-insiders-perspective-on-tulsi-gabbard-and-her-guru-e2650f0d09

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  235. @Art

    Sad to say, Art, you haven’t been saved from anything. As long as there’s a TV that you can watch, your hopes will continue to guide your political fantasies.

  236. @Rurik

    She likes universal medical and pays lip service to green energy and other things, but I didn’t hear her say ‘open the borders’ or ‘reparations’ or any of that lunatic idiocy. Does she hate whitey? Is there any evidence?

    Tulsi on Reparations: “While every other presidential candidate has been “talking” about reparations, Tulsi Gabbard has been in the background helping to get reparations legislation pushed through.”

    WTFU PEOPLE!!

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @peterAUS
  237. Agent76 says:
    @Ludwig Watzal

    This will give you great insight.

    May 25, 2014 FDNY 9/11 Survivor Witness and Whistleblower Speaks on WTC 7

    Listen very carefully starting at the ’20’ second mark! As a firefighter on 9/11, he was at Ground Zero and was there when Building 7 came down.

  238. @Art

    Thanks, Art. That’s the funniest thing I’ve read today. Listing her sponsors as her enemies is just too funny.

  239. anarchyst says:
    @Wally

    The CIA is the largest importer of drugs in the USA. How do you think their “black projects” get funded?

  240. Ians says:
    @Rurik

    Incorrect. His incompetent lawyers used an insanity defence to try to keep him from the chair. SS claims no knowledge of the events. All the shots that hit RFK were from behind him and at close quarter. How did Sirhan manage to shoot RFK behind his ear from inches away, leaving powder burns, when every witness placed him at least three feet in front of the Senator at all times?

  241. @Saggy

    Yet you will be fooled by Gabbard? Is it the nice ass? It must be. You should leave your sexual fantasies out of your political considerations.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  242. Ians says:
    @mark green

    Fake news. You’ve clearly not read up on this killing. All the candidates were in favour of these sales. Fake motive peddled by his lawyers.

    • Replies: @mark green
  243. Ians says:
    @Ron Unz

    There are better books out there covering this topic. ‘A Lie too Big to Fail’ by Lisa Pease is the most recent. RFK was shot from behind, from close range. SS was always in front of RFK and up to thirteen shots were fired in a very brief period.

  244. Realist says:
    @Rurik

    America is going down the tubes.

    True. The US is on the shit slide to hell. Dumbassery has taken over.

  245. Anonymous [AKA "gonsuale"] says:
    @Jmaie

    Don’t forget to volunteer for the war and bring your children, too. Only morons support the troops. The USA has started every major war in the world for the last 75 years. All in “self defense.” All normal people go into other people’s houses and kill them and their families in “self defense.” Normal people come online to argue over the relative merits of their elected apparatchiks.

  246. @peterAUS

    ‘…Haole, a?
    How is reverse racism going on in Hawaii? Especially “natives”/browns vs whites?…’

    I just caught this one going by.

    I lived in Hawaii for a while, and of course reverse racism is a feature of the landscape.

    I kinda just took it for granted…but it seems strange that someone would deny its existence. One just accepts it. It’s one of the negative things about Hawaii. Move to Oklahoma, and it has a lousy climate. Move to Hawaii and put up with reverse racism. It just goes with the terrority.

    But deny it? Would you insist Oklahoma has great weather?

  247. @Rurik

    When tom cotton was initially running for CONgress he needed funding and he received close to a million dollars from neocon bill kristol and his israel emergency fund

    • Replies: @Rurik
  248. @Commentator Mike

    “I can understand Snowden being a patriot who became disillusioned but she was raised in this loony cult.”

    First, you’re being ridiculous. You don’t realize that we’re presently being ruled by a “cult”? If orange clown’s (and his handlers’) militant zionist extremism is not a “cult” there are no cults.

    In fact there are “cults” everywhere; we have Bush’s “skull and bones”; Obama’s “Subud”; we have “freemasonry”; we have Chabad-Lubavitch; we have an assortment of communists, statists, militaristic-flag-worshiping-blowhards and satanists of every stripe, etc., but because you apparently have some kind of a bizarre personal animosity towards Tulsi Gabbard, you pick her out of the bunch and assail her for being associated with a cult described as a “mishmash of Buddism, Vaishnava Hinduism and Christianity” according to your link.

    Well I’ll tell you what: If we are to have “cultists” in high political office, I’d much prefer an adherent to an eclectic mix of “Buddhism, Hinduism and Christanity” than one of the devil-worshipers that we generally always have, e.g. the evil orange clown. (BTW as I understand it, Tulsi Gabbard is a vegetarian, and that’s a good sign, whether you recognize it or not).

    Second, Snowden is just one example of many such cases, e.g., Dan Ellsberg, Pat Tillman, George Patton, etc. Many of us were naive at some earlier point in our lives, in large part because let’s face it, we’re all subject to the same statist brainwashing almost from the moment we’re born into this world, indoctrinating us into the cult of “American exceptionalism.” But you seem to be studiously ignoring my point and because of your animosity toward Gabbard, you malign her character.

    BTW, nobody’s perfect, not even Tulsi Gabbard, and to the extent I understand her position on some issues, I certainly disagree with her on some things. But a person’s apparent “position” on some issue is nowhere near as important as that person’s moral character. Being “wrong” about something in good faith is much more acceptable than being a lying con man like orange clown, who stands for nothing except his pathological narcissism and his handlers’ satanic agenda.

    Right now “America” is on its deathbed, and it needs emergency medicine in the form of a president who is significantly more morally competent than the reprobates who’ve brought us to where we are. If this zionist extremist militarism isn’t stopped and soon, none of the other lesser issues will matter at all.

  249. PeterMX says:

    Tulsi Gabbard would be a great choice to work in the Trump administration. Pat Buchanan is a great writer that Trump should quote sometimes in his speeches. He should follow Buchanan’s advice instead of Bolton’s.

  250. Ians says:
    @mark green

    Thanks for completely wasting my time listening to that clown Evan Thomas giving a totally spurious account of the assassination, notably failing to elucidate how three bullets were fired from close behind RFK when, at all times, Sirhan was in front of him, several feet away. Try reading some properly researched accounts, rather than watching some YouTube pap.

    • Replies: @mark green
  251. RobinG says:
    @Harold Smith

    “….Many of us were naive at some earlier point in our lives, in large part because let’s face it, we’re all subject to the same statist brainwashing almost from the moment we’re born into this world…”

    Excellent point. Reactions to this candidacy have been very revealing.

  252. Paul C. says:
    @mark green

    Sirhan has repeated confessed to killing RFK.

    There’s been some discussion that Sirhan Sirhan was a MK Ultra victim. That a Palestinian killed an American icon is akin to the Dancing Israeli’s saying “we’re not your problem” on 9/11. They most certainly are (as you know better than most). And what better way to demonize Palestinians.

    All of the assassinations and wars are calculated and planned. Mossad’s motto: By way of deception thou shall do war. It’s interesting to note that RFK Jr. no longer thinks Sirhan Sirhan did it.

    Here’s Chris Bollyn’s analysis: http://www.bollyn.com/the-zionist-criminal-network/#article_14599

    • Replies: @Rurik
  253. @Harold Smith

    I agree that the other, more influential cults, have done more damage than the Hare Krishnas. I have nothing personal against her, I find her very likable, but it’s just that those Hare Krishna types annoy me so I got interested into what type of Hindu she was and was disappointed by what I found out. I’d have been more satisfied if I’d found out that she was part Indian and inherited her Hinduism from her ancestors.

  254. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Listen for the magic word. (Starts with N.)

    Tulsi Gabbard sounds off on ‘clear bias’ during her debate

    • Replies: @Art
  255. @Ians

    The interview was conducted by David Frost. Did you even watch it?

    Sirhan explains in detail his motive for killing RFK. It’s entirely plausible and 100% believable.

    • Replies: @Ians
  256. Rurik says:
    @Fred Flintston

    tom cotton … …received close to a million dollars from neocon bill kristol

    Well, if it’s sheer venality and ambition, then he’s even more rotten to the core, than if it was blackmail.

    And I suspect you’re intuition is correct, and that’s what it boils down to. Shekels.

    I remember a while back openly pining for the leadership of Vlad III Dracul (also known as Vlad the Impaler). He had zero tolerance for deception and corruption, and had a ‘treatment’ for the worst offenders.

    He’s maligned today, perhaps because we all live in a time of universal deceit and corruption, but I wonder.. if Tom Cotton could be convinced of the error of his ways, by a short stint on the ‘pole’, if he might live to regret his perfidy. Some of them lived several days, after all. That would give Tom lots of time to ponder what he’s done, no?

  257. Rurik says:
    @Paul C.

    And what better way to demonize Palestinians.

    Thank you Mark Green for you reply, and this is a very salient point, Paul.

    My problem with these atrocities of momentous import, (JFK, 9/11, etc..) is with the eternal question cui bono? If Sirhan actually was concerned about the welfare of Palestine, then the stupidest thing he could do is commit an egregious crime against a beloved icon of Americana, thereby insuring an even more callous disregard for the fate of his people.

    These things always work out in ways the Mossad could have only prayed for. Funny how that is.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  258. Rurik says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Tulsi Gabbard has been in the background helping to get reparations legislation pushed through.”

    well Sir, I really wonder if I’m not ‘down’ for reparations, at this point.

    For since I’ve been alive, the mantra has been ‘fuck over those white guys over there! Toss them under the bus, and give the rioting Negro what they have, if that’s what it will take to quiet them down’. So we’ve had a form of ‘reparations in place now, for decades. But it was all aimed at one target demographic, and virtually every other opportunistic minority rat jumped on board.

    So if they implement reparations, then it’s going to target white women as well. For once they’ll be on the ‘receiving end’ of ‘social justice’, no matter how poor or underprivileged they are. But ‘it doesn’t matter how unjust it is to individuals,’ (we’re all hectored) ‘what society is doing is collectively making up for the sins of people long dead, and so fucking over a segment of society today, will make for a more perfect utopia tomorrow!’

    Has been the narrative. And white women have run with it. Yayyyyy! Social justice! Fuck my sons and brothers and husbands prospects, this is good for meeeee!

    Ok, how do you like them (reparation) apples, eh? Somehow the ‘social justice’ doesn’t taste as sweet, huh?

    Bring it on, say I.

    Because it’s never been really about he jobs or promotions or whatnot, but about the principle, (or raging lack there of). The idea that it’s OK to fuck some people over, because they’re despised and powerless anyhow, so why not? Ignoring the principles of actual justice, to chose winners and losers depending on your tribal or ‘identity’ affections.

    Let the LGBT and Jewish community get taxed to subsidize the Nation of Islam.

    I’d pay my share of that tax, just to see the screeching.

  259. peterAUS says:
    @Haole2

    I know.

    This, apparently positive, attitude towards the girl coming is just showing how “alt-Light/civnats/cuckservatives…whatever” are desperate.

    Good, for a starter.

  260. peterAUS says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    WTFU PEOPLE!!

    Don’t be too harsh on the guys.
    A drowning man catches at a straw.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  261. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Junior

    Who are those two reptiles interviewing her?

    • LOL: Junior
  262. alexander says:
    @Rurik

    I am not sure that people who never “owned” slaves should have to pay reparations for having been a “slave owner”.

    It is as queer and fraudulent a logic as American taxpayer dollars being used in Syria ,to fund the very same terror groups who attacked us….. on 9-11.

    It is as bizarre as demanding Jussie Smollet be given a “free pass” as soon as it becomes clear he is the perpetrator, not the “victim” …..of his own “staged terror event”.

    What sort of lessons are we are teaching our children with all this ?

    What are we saying ?

    What we really need is a whole new set of “elites” to function as our nations stewards ..The ones we have now ….. are not only shameful failures…….they are total frauds.

    All the initiatives they pull out of their hat are so bizarre and misshapen …we need to ask ourselves why is it these people are still running the show ?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  263. @Rurik

    Tried my best to make sense of WTF you were saying, and I guess I couldn’t. My great grandfather died in a coal mine collapse in Pocahontas, VA. https://gendisasters.com/virginia/5557/pocahontas-va-coal-mine-explosion-kills-two-score-feb-1932.
    I’m sure My family will never be offered any compensation for the life of my great grandfather which was far more horrible than that of any “cotton picker”.
    In case you didn’t know, the first slaves in America were WHITE.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/the_forgotten_history_of_britains_white_slaves_in_america.html
    Get educated before you dribble shit out cho pie hole!!

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Rurik
  264. @Ron Unz

    Here’s the correct link for David Frost’s 1989 interview with Sirhan. Whatever your belief, you will learn more by hearing from Sirhan himself.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  265. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    She’s a hindu because her white mother is a hindu. I can bet her mother is an old hippy from the 60’s generation to whom hinduism was very attractive because it has no rules. You make it up as you go along, do your own thing as the hippies were known to say.

  266. @Budd Dwyer

    Stank on a stick and a face(nose)that would stop a freight train. God help us all!!

  267. @peterAUS

    Guess your right. All these folk’s here pouncing on the new “messiah” because she speaks all the right words. Sorry I can’t buy it because Iv’e been up and down this road once or twice before. Many here are like the”desperadoes waiting for a train”.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  268. Rurik says:
    @mark green

    checking into this, (it’s raining here ; ), I came across this video.

    Sirhan is at 1:45 into it.

    the thing that strikes me about it, is the man’s demeanor. He just doesn’t seem like he’s got the soul of a stone-cold assassin. And not just any assassin, but the assassin of a presidential level person of importance. You’d have to have nerves of titanium. A clinical psychopath’s control of his emotions and motor functions.

    I think of actual assassins, like Sammy the Bull, or Carlos the Jackal, or just your run of the mill psychopaths, like Ted Bundy. And they all seem to have an iron control over themselves, even a chilling intensity of sort.

    And yet the guy in the video seems like a wishy-washy, mouse-like guy. Hardly presidential assassin material. At least that’s the impression I got. But of course it could all be a carefully contrived persona for the camera, in which case you can’t get more stone-cold psychopathic than that.

    • Replies: @Ians
  269. Rurik says:
    @alexander

    I am not sure that people who never “owned” slaves should have to pay reparations for having been a “slave owner”.

    Well Alexander, that is the exact pretext that has been used to f- over working class white men in this country since I’ve been around. The pretext for Affirmative Actions is that someone must be fucked over to atone for the sin of slavery, and so why not f- over those guys over there? They’ve got no money or power or influence, and the Negros will be placated if we simply give them what those guys have. Problem solved!

    What sort of lessons are we are teaching our children with all this ?

    well, consider the lesson of Jussie Smollet. Or the Duke “rape” victim, or Tawana Brawley, or so many other “hate” crimes “victims”.

    The lesson is, that even if the First Class protected people are lying about the crimes, and trying to destroy “innocent” white men’s lives, that even if it is all lies, it’s still a laudable thing to do, because all white men are guilty anyways, so why split hairs and worry about if they ever actually committed any crimes personally, is irrelevant. They’re all guilty. That is the lesson.

    why is it these people are still running the show ?

    • Replies: @alexander
  270. I’m not actually that crazy about Tulsi Gabbard. There are other candidates who are worse still, but…

    My primary motive for pushing her is that her main message is ‘no more Mideast wars, damn it!’

    The more traction that gets — and the higher in the polls Tulsi goes — the less likely it is that we’ll wind up in a war with Iran.

    And while we are pursuing many foolish policies, there is a distinction between mere stupidity and actual evil. For us to admit more immigrants, for example, is merely stupid. It’s not actually evil.

    But for us to start a war with Iran would be an act of evil.

    So I’ll push Tulsi. At least until I am reasonably confident the Drang nach Tehran is off the table, once and for all.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  271. turtle says:
    @Charles

    Bullshit.
    Her appeal is that she is educated, articulate, and not afraid to speak the truth

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  272. What’s wrong with Tulsi and her commie compadres? Here it is.

  273. Rurik says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    will never be offered any compensation

    of course not. He was white. And therefor guilty, and if anything, should be made to pay.

    (condolences, btw)

    I know the whole idiotic narrative about black and white and guilt is all a ((devil’s)) fraud being perpetrated upon the entire West. That’s why the West is dying, ((being murdered)), because they’ve been ((indoctrinated)) into abased self-loathing and guilt. Good it’z, for the tribe.

    The point I’m making about reparations is that it will have wonderfully positive fallout, as white women realize that teeming up with the minority grievance army’s against their own menfolk, wasn’t perhaps the greatest idea after all, as the minority grievance army doesn’t need the pasty Beckys anymore, and they too are targeted as ‘racists’ who are guilty and who owe.

    The only way they’ve been able to destroy our society, is by getting white women on board with the Affirmative Action program, by telling the Beckys that they too! will benefit from pushing their sons and husbands and brothers and fathers under the grievance bus.

    So ((they’ve)) managed to divide the American family right down the middle, in order to destroy it.

    Perhaps there’s still hope for that beleaguered institution (and this nation), if Becky sees what the end game is, and returns to her loyalty to the ‘white ‘Patriarchy’, that she’s tried to burn down all her feminist life, so she could profit from her son’s and brother’s and husband’s, etc.. disenfranchisement.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  274. Saggy says: • Website
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Yet you will be fooled by Gabbard? Is it the nice ass? It must be. You should leave your sexual fantasies out of your political considerations.

    It’s her manner of speech. I’ve seen mainly head shots, don’t have a good idea of the bod. But, she is a babe, no question.

    I’m also a Rand Paul fan, and I’m pretty sure his ass is noting to look at.

    I also liked Kucinich.

    I don’t think it is impossible that a politician is honest, but, it takes more than honesty, and it seems highly unlikely that a politician not controlled by the Jews will succeed.

    The remarkable thing to me is that Paul gets zero, that’s ZERO, traction from left or right. Of course you can find fault with Paul, but on the, that’s THE, topic of senseless wars and runaway executive control of the govt. he seems to be the best.

  275. Rurik says:
    @Colin Wright

    to admit more immigrants, for example, is merely stupid. It’s not actually evil.

    I’d call it a lesser evil (than the Eternal Wars for Israel)

    so I generally agree.

    But make no mistake, the mass and unlimited immigration and into the entire West, of non-Western people, is an overt and deliberate plan to inundate, then overcome, and defenestrate whitey once and for all.

    They’re simply biding their time for the day when the world’s only superpower is delivered, fee simple- into ((their)) hands.

    And on that day, the West will know what it’s like to be a Ukrainian (Kulak) or Serbian or Rhodesian or South African farmer/ Palestinian- or all the other victims of their netherworld hatred.

    On that proverbial day, there will be an evil visited on the West like no sane mind can even comprehend.

  276. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Haven’t watched the video yet so I don’t know if it is mentioned that Gabbard, just like Hillary [and many other insiders], is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations [CFR]:

    PHOTOS: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Hosts Council on Foreign Relations Briefing in Honolulu: https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/photos-rep-tulsi-gabbard-hosts-council-foreign-relations-briefing-honolulu

    Regards, onebornfree

  277. @Johnny Walker Read

    “Entitlement” section starts at 43:50 in the video..

  278. @Budd Dwyer

    Since they both have shit for brains, then it comes down to this: who has the better rack, Tulsi or AOC?

  279. Ron Unz says:
    @mark green

    Here’s the correct link for David Frost’s 1989 interview with Sirhan. Whatever your belief, you will learn more by hearing from Sirhan himself.

    Thanks. I’m not a “video person” but I watched a couple of minutes of the Sirhan clip. however, I don’t see it as proving anything whatsoever.

    Absolutely no one denies that Sirhan had a gun that night and fired at RFK. So presumably he had some sort of reason, though various analysts claim that he seemed disoriented or quasi-drugged at the time, which may or may be true.

    As everyone knows, nearly all American politicians regularly promise to support Israel, so it’s not clear to me why RFK saying that in some speech somewhere would inspire an assassin. Since Sirhan undeniably fired his gun at RFK, it’s possible he gradually came to believe the explanation the MSM uniformly presented. It’s also possible that even if he didn’t, he hoped that by saying so to Frost, he might win parole.

    Just out of curiosity, I reread the relevant pages in the Talbot book and the facts seemed pretty conclusive. Powder burns reveal that the fatal shot was fired just inches from RFK, and from behind. Meanwhile, all witnesses agree that Sirhan was standing several feet in front of RFK. Maybe Frost should have asked Sirhan how he managed to teleport that night.

    Moreover, recording evidence and eyewitness testimony indicate that at least a dozen shots were fired. Sirhan’s gun carried only eight rounds. Maybe Frost should have asked him about that.

    Based on this sort of evidence, the LA Coroner said there was clearly a second gunman that night, and he must have fired the fatal shot. offhand, that seems to demonstrate a “conspiracy” and strongly suggests that Sirhan was merely a disoriented “patsy.”

    Although RFK never said anything publicly, over the years he had repeatedly told his friends and relatives that he was sure his brother had been killed by a conspiracy, but there was absolutely nothing he could do unless and until he himself reached the White House. Presumably, some of the JFK conspirators became alarmed at that possibility, and decided to forestall it.

    Talbot is a highly regarded journalist and his book was praised in the NYT by one of our most eminent historians. So maybe Talbot just made up all his footnotes and personal interviews, but I tend to doubt that. Anyway, lots of other writers have covered the same material, often in far more detailed and speculative form.

    Instead of watching videos, you really might want to read a few pages of the Talbot book, and see how plausible you find the material.

    • Replies: @mark green
    , @Biff
  280. Issar says:
    @Charles_Martel

    Ok. I did that. Now he can be the White House photographer. It’s all good? Everything copasetic?

  281. alexander says:
    @Rurik

    It’s total fraud, Rurik.

    It is a form of degenerate fascism..and its a paradigm failure, right out of the gate.

    I don’t care who its aimed at (either) because as far as I am concerned it can be aimed at anybody.

    Consider arresting and incarcerating Norman Finkelstein for the crimes committed by Jeffrey Epstein.

    Consider arresting and incarcerated Gareth Porter for the crimes committed by Dick Cheney.

    Consider arresting and incarcerating LeBron James for the crimes committed by Robert Mugabe.

    It’s bullsh#t !

    C’mon Rurik , If this is the distilled essence of “identity politics ” it is a total fraud.

    And it is so stupid.

  282. @onebornfree

    Just tell us what it is. No one wants to sit and listen to your voice and look at your face for 13 minutes. Write it out so we can read it.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  283. @Rurik

    Massive third world replacement level immigration is the worst thing of all, even worse than ME wars.

    The jew’s goal is to have non-whites outbreed and outvote whites, and they will accomplish that goal in the not too distant future.

    I don’t see any way to stop the demographic disaster coming our way.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  284. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Hi RobinG,

    Tulsi did great in the debate – for the first time since 9/11 – Peace was politically cheered – that is very significant. On Tucker Carlson the next day she attacked Saudi as not our friend and used the “N” word – Netanyahu – as an anti-peace symbol.

    At the G20 press conference Trump answered a question in a very ominous manner. Someone asked, “what was he going to do when Iran restarted the nuke materials processing again?” He said in very forcefully menacing – “wait and see” “wait and see.”

    Hmm – what more could he do to Iran – but bomb it?

    Tulsi Gabbard needs to call a press conference, and demand Trump explain himself to America. She needs to publicly challenge him before all of America. She needs to remind America that the reason Iran is doing this – is because Trump killed the Iran nuke deal.

    Of course, the media made no follow up question, asking Trump the no brainer question – “is he planning on bombing Iran?” Tulsi needs to take on the roll of America’s war conscience.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Tulsi needs an angry Tweet from Trump.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  285. ‘…C’mon Rurik , If this is the distilled essence of “identity politics ” it is a total fraud.

    And it is so stupid. ‘

    Well, of course it’s a fraud. We’re individuals — not part of some Borg collective.

    Let’s consider…me! What are some of my salient characteristics? Well, I’m sixty one, I’m left-handed, I was born in California…

    Now, should you attack a fellow demi-senior, or a fellow left-hander, or even someone else born in California, I can’t say I’d really care more than if you’d attacked someone born in Iowa.

    But if you attack me, well…

    It’s about what has happened to me, personally, not some collective — still less a collective all the supposedly aggrieved members of whom are dead.

    On behalf of all the Left-handers forced to write right-handed in Dutch public schools of the nineteenth century I am outraged…outraged!!!!

    …well, no, actually I’m not. You see, I’m me, not some component of some homogeneous collective — be it left-handers, Jews, blacks, or those born with detached ear lobes. It didn’t happen to me, and that really is a pretty significant distinction.

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @Rurik
  286. @Rurik

    ‘I’d call it a lesser evil (than the Eternal Wars for Israel)

    so I generally agree.

    But make no mistake, the mass and unlimited immigration and into the entire West, of non-Western people, is an overt and deliberate plan to inundate, then overcome, and defenestrate whitey once and for all…’

    I’ll leave aside the degree to which it’s all a conscious plan. I’ll still insist on a qualitative difference.

    Most people who would permit some continued immigration aren’t bad people; they just like the idea that they are generous, and sharing, and sort of get some vision of the Statue of Liberty when it all comes up.

    They’re not evil — just foolish. Moreover, we don’t actually need to act now. In my view, all that happens if we wait is that the correction involves lynch victims hanging from lamp posts ‘n stuff — it gets messier, but it gets fixed.

    The war with Iran is different. Once we’ve started it, we can’t take it back, and although wars in general aren’t very morally defensible, this really will be an especially evil, gratuitous one, that aside from its massively deleterious practical effects, will be a moral failure we will never be able to gainsay.

    We can be stupid. It’s our own funeral. But we can’t be evil. That’s wrong.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @Rurik
  287. @Colin Wright

    Strongly disagree.

    I am against fighting proxy wars for Israel. However….. replacement level immigration means the END of the white race.

    Extinction.

    I don’t know why people don’t get this. Any student of history knows that immigration can be used as a weapon, and that is what the jews have done.

    I have personally experienced what it’s like to be a white minority in a non-white dominated arena, and it’s HELL.

    Whites are headed for hated minority status, will lose the right to free speech (already happening) lose the right to bear arms…. whites will wind up like the Boers in South Africa.

    You say this can be reversed……well no, it CAN’T.

    Not without bloodshed.

    Given these irrefutable facts, I’d say that mass immigration is far worse than the wars in the ME, as mass immigration will likely cause a civil war, and in any case will eventually result in the extinction of white people.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  288. @Ron Unz

    Hi Ron. I claim no expertise on this matter. But Sirhan was there with a gun and an intent to kill RFK. He admits this freely. Sirhan wanted to kill Kennedy and he believes that he did so. Eyewitnesses tackled Sirhan immediately after the shooting and they affirm that it was Sirhan who shot RFK. This evidence is hard to explain away.

    Are we to believe that there was another gunman present who, independent of Sirhan, was there to assassinate RFK on the same night in the same room at the same time?

    I have not read the Talbot book but Sirhan’s confession and personal testimony seem quite persuasive.

    Lastly, if someone shot RFK at point blank range in a room crowded with eyewitnesses, then what did this second assassin looked like?

    Curious minds want to know!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Ron Unz
    , @Iris
  289. @Robert Dolan

    ‘I have personally experienced what it’s like to be a white minority in a non-white dominated arena, and it’s HELL.’

    Not my experience. I lived in various Hispanic-dominated parts of LA for seven years, and they were pretty dysfunctional, but I wouldn’t call them hell.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  290. @mark green

    ‘Hi Ron. I claim no expertise on this matter. But Sirhan was there with a gun and an intent to kill RFK. He admits this freely. Sirhan wanted to kill Kennedy and he believes that he did so. Eyewitnesses tackled Sirhan immediately after the shooting and they affirm that it was Sirhan who shot RFK. This evidence is hard to explain away.

    Are we to believe that there was another gunman present who, independent of Sirhan, was there to assassinate RFK on the same night in the same room at the same time?

    People like you are no fun at all.

  291. @mark green

    Evidence against O.J Simpson isn’t air tight either, but everyone knows he did it – even the ones who won’t admit it.

  292. @Colin Wright

    It was hell.

    I bet you didn’t work in East LA or South Central.

    At this point, but for the beach areas, ALL of Los Angeles is hispanic dominated.

    If you are white and you are working in a non-white area, and your superiors are non-white, you are totally fucked. I have journals filled with nightmare stories of daily confrontations with stupid petty low IQ anti-white assholes.

    I don’t want to get too specific, but much of the time my life was in danger. That’s how bad it was.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  293. Ron Unz says:
    @mark green

    Are we to believe that there was another gunman present who, independent of Sirhan, was there to assassinate RFK on the same night in the same room at the same time?…Lastly, if someone shot RFK at point blank range in a room crowded with eyewitnesses, then what did this second assassin looked like?

    Well, according to the Talbot book, an RFK aide later reported seeing a temporary security guard named Thane Eugene Cesar holding a drawn gun and standing immediately behind RFK, in pretty much the exact location the fatal shot apparently came from. Cesar afterward insisted that he’d never fired his weapon, but it was never tested. Oddly enough, he was known for his fierce hatred of the Kennedys, whom he claimed had “sold out” America, but the LA police investigators supposedly told the witness not to mention what he saw or talk about it to anyone. For these reasons, Talbot notes that Cesar “has long since figured in conspiracy theories about RFK’s death.”

    The suggested hypothesis is that Sirhan was recruited as the disoriented or drugged “patsy” to take a few shots at RFK from the front, thereby producing a huge distraction whether or not he hit him, and allowing the real killer a clear opening from behind.

    I’m absolutely no expert on the Kennedy Assassinations, and until just a few years ago, never once paid any attention to the topic, casually dismissing all the “conspiracy theories” as total nonsense. But I think I was completely mistaken:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-jfk-assassination-part-i-what-happened/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-jfk-assassination-part-ii-who-did-it/

  294. @Robert Dolan

    ‘I bet you didn’t work in East LA or South Central.

    As a matter of fact it was East L.A.

  295. @Kevin Barrett

    Used to be three (the Bible) but now there’s only two truths closed to debate – 9/11 and the holohoax. With the questioning of either leading to being burned at the stake, or broken on the wheel.

  296. Biff says:
    @Ron Unz

    Powder burns reveal that the fatal shot was fired just inches from RFK, and from behind.

    There is also a theory out there that a clumsy secret service agent had an “accident”.

    What are the chances of that, and wouldn’t that be a great way to cover up a real motive?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  297. @Rurik

    And more wars -more immigrants/refugees.

  298. The take Gabbard on the world tour instead of Ivanka, please!

    트럼프 북한 관광 2019

  299. gsjackson says:
    @Carroll Price

    Yeah, everyone who takes their account of the trial from the same corporate media who lie to you about everything else. Anyone who actually watched the trial knows Simpson didn’t do it. All kinds of little problems with the prosecution’s case that the media didn’t bother to call attention to — like the blood under Nicole’s fingernails that wasn’t Simpson’s, so of no interest to the cops. Or the blood all over Goldman’s car keys.

    • Replies: @Caijoe
  300. This woman Tulsi Gabbard has very deep connections with R S S a fascist,racist outfit with anti Christian and anti Muslim violence.No body questions her on this

  301. @Rurik

    This woman Tulsi Gabbard has very deep connections with R S S a fascist,racist outfit with anti Christian and anti Muslim violence.No body questions her on this.Zionists are at presant in league with R S S now

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  302. Caijoe says:
    @gsjackson

    Sure, and O.J. will find the killer one day

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  303. @Carroll Price

    Actually, many now believe it was O. J’s son Jason who did the dirty deed.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  304. @Twodees Partain

    Gabbard is a US politician. Let’s not forget that.

    That’s all one needs to know. The rest is just blather.

  305. @Dr.Joji Cherian

    People see what they want to see, truth be damned.

  306. alexander says:
    @Colin Wright

    Colin,

    You wrote ” You see, I am me, not some component of some homogeneous collective-…”

    Right-O !

    None of us are.

  307. @Rurik

    Perhaps there’s still hope for that beleaguered institution (and this nation), if Becky sees what the end game is, and returns to her loyalty to the ‘white ‘Patriarchy’, that she’s tried to burn down all her feminist life, so she could profit from her son’s and brother’s and husband’s, etc.. disenfranchisement.

    One can hope I guess, but the ones who started this whole mess are still running the show. Very few people are incapable of critical thought as so many posting here prove.

    It was confirmed by the postwar degradation of personal relationships. Divorce and cheating on one’s wife happened more frequently. The beautiful concept of women on a pedestal, women soft and feminine, with a lovely voice filled with cadences, the flower of God’s creation, the mystery, was a vanishing ideal. In her place came the strident, the loud, the vulgar with clattering grating speech such as was aped and made popular by a one particular popular morning talk show.

    Nobody could possibly know that this sad decline was the end product of Tavistock having declared war on Western womanhood. – John Coleman: Tavistock Institute

  308. @Johnny Walker Read

    Sorry I can’t buy it because Iv’e been up and down this road once or twice before.

    We must’ve travelled the same roads, and seen bullshit piled high and wide everywhere. This comment thread smells familiar…

  309. @Chris Mallory

    Just tell us what it is. No one wants to sit and listen to your voice and look at your face for 13 minutes. Write it out so we can read it.

    Agree.

    Interesting to read that RU is also not a “video person.” For me one of the few things worse than watching a vid or the tee vee is listening to some politician, professor, priest, punk, or other con artist yapping away.

  310. Art says:

    It is imperative that Tulsi get her poll numbers up.

    Tulsi Gabbard needs to get back in the news NOW. She cannot let her debate success die. She must not let the Jew media ignore her.

    She must publicly challenge Trump on Iran – ask if he is going to bomb Iran over more nuke material processing?

    She should become the person the media goes to for a stories on war and peace.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @RobinG
  311. gsjackson says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    I assume that’s William Dear talking. I read his book and ultimately didn’t find his theory persuasive for a number of reasons, one of which is that the coroner who examined the bodies and testified at the preliminary hearing said two knives were likely used (he was disappeared by the prosecution at the the full trial, supplanted by his supervisor who knew nothing of two knives).

    Also, the timeline evidence made it unlikely OJ was at the scene. And why would he be there? All of his phone records that night were entered into evidence (e.g., he called his daughter to congratulate her on the dance performance, neglecting to mentioned that he would be over in a few minutes to slaughter her mother), and Jason didn’t call him.

    But Dear’s story makes a lot more sense than the fairy tale the prosecution served up.

  312. gsjackson says:
    @Caijoe

    Any time you want to talk about the actual evidence that came into the trial, rather than with stupid and trite media memes, bring it. In this forum until they make us stop, and then in the venue of your choice.

  313. @alexander

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but a great anti-war journalist, or any other worthy of the title, wouldn’t delete comments critical of Israel and ban those who make them.

    • Replies: @alexander
  314. alexander says:
    @Carroll Price

    I was not aware of anything like that happening on ANTI-WAR.COM.

    I seem to recall reading dozens of articles, over the years, engaging the ongoing conflict in Israel/Palestine.

    ANTI-WAR.COM has an “Israel/ Palestine” bulletin board which posts the latest events, every single day.

    Are you saying it doesn’t…or are you saying something else ?

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    , @renfro
  315. Iris says:
    @mark green

    Eyewitnesses tackled Sirhan immediately after the shooting and they affirm that it was Sirhan who shot RFK. This evidence is hard to explain away.

    Forensic evidence proves the contrary without a shadow of a doubt.
    RFK’s autopsy, carried out by Pr Thomas Noguchi, was flawless. He had been warned by Pr Cyril Wecht, a courageous forensic expert, to avoid a mockery autopsy as JFK’s was.

    LA’s Coroner Pr Noguchi: “Until more is precisely known…the existence of a second gunman remains a possibility. Thus, I have never said that Sirhan Sirhan killed Robert Kennedy.”
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/363445

    Furthermore, there is undeniable material evidence that at least two gunmen were present.
    During RFK’s shooting, a Polish journalist named Pruszynski hadn’t turn his recorder off. The tape was turned over to forensic expert Philip Van Praag who was able to find 13 shots on the tape, and two double shots, while a gun similar to Sirhan’s could not fire fast enough. Both findings prove there were two gunmen.
    https://whowhatwhy.org/2018/06/05/rfk-assassination-an-eyewitness-to-history/

    Sirhan wanted to kill Kennedy and he believes that he did so.

    No, he does not: he cannot remember anything he did, except drinking, being dizzy and being led by a woman wearing a polka dot dress who was never identified.

    Sirhan has been diagnosed as a highly hypnotizable subject by Dr Daniel Brown, a Harvard psychologist:
    https://whowhatwhy.org/2016/02/16/the-full-story-of-the-sirhan-sirhan-parole-hearing/

    The polka-dot-dress woman was seen escaping the scene with a companion, and heard bragging:” We shot him !! ” by RFK’s campaign volunteers. She could even have be identified from news footage of RFK’s conference, but was never investigated, nor identified.

  316. KenH says:

    I want to see a presidential contest that doubles as a diversity soap opera. I’d like to see Tulsi win the Dem nomination and Trump step aside and promote Nimrata Haley. Then we’ll have two dueling diversities, one a crazy, hawkish Sikh who worships Israel and the other a Hindu dove who seemingly places American interests first at least until she’s bought off by (((Bloomberg))) or (((Saban))).

    So it would be the Sikh female vs. the Hindu female. The turban vs. the red dot. Brown vs. brown.

  317. Ians says:
    @mark green

    He has no recall of the assassination. Please explain how he shot RFK several times from close range from behind. He was being held after the first couple of shots and was always in front of RFK, at a distance of three feet or more. He was an MK Ultra patsy. Have you actually read any of the literature?

    • Replies: @mark green
  318. Ians says:
    @Rurik

    It’s meaningless to attempt to make any sense of what he says. Read the autopsy report. It makes it clear that SS could not be the assassin. Any other conjecture is baseless.

  319. @Ians

    Sirhan’s testimony (see the David Frost interview) as well as eyewitness accounts are very compelling. Plus, the simplest explanation is that Sirhan successfully killed the man who he wanted to kill, stalked, and who he fired his gun at. I concede that it is not the only possible scenario, just the most likely.

  320. 13 Reasons You Should Never Trust Tulsi Gabbard

    Renegade Tribune say’s it better than I could

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/13-reasons-you-should-never-trust-tulsi-gabbard/

  321. @Art

    ” Think peace”

    Yeah when we think peace the first politicos we should then consider are : Democrats, and their “peaceful” endeavors in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Hamburg, Schweinfurt, Pforzheim, Mannheim, Kaiserslautern, Frankfurt and etc, with thousands or millions of civilian dead, and then we can contemplate the “peaceful” activities of the Democrats in Korea and Viet Nam.

    I told you before Art, you are a clueless fool, and you are simply in above your empty head on these matters.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualifies since 1973, airborne trained US ary vet, and pro Jazz musician.

  322. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Caijoe

    Good article.

    I suspected that he was just another Zionist whore and your article gives the amount he received.

    Really disgusting human being.

  323. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Trump will be formidable.

    Tweet from @thomaswright08 – –

    You couldn’t make it up. John Bolton was sent to Mongolia while Tucker Carlson was one of those accompanying Trump to the DMZ.

    • LOL: Bliss
  324. @mark green

    ‘…Plus, the simplest explanation is that Sirhan successfully killed the man who he wanted to kill, stalked, and who he fired his gun at…’

    I’m actually inclined to agree with you, but in fairness to the conspiracy theorists, you would be offered a simple, satisfying explanation…in place of the truth.

    After all, if, say, the Israelis had succeeded in sinking the Liberty and leaving no survivors, the simplest explanation today would be that the Egyptians had done it. Sure, there would be conspiracy theorists saying the Israelis were actually the ones had done it because blah, blah, blah, but…

  325. @nsa

    Hindu Hottie??? Her face reminds me of Manuel Noriega’s.

  326. gsjackson says:
    @mark green

    They aren’t alternative or mutually exclusive scenarios. It is conceded that Sirhan shot at Kennedy. That does not account for all of the facts.

  327. Iris says:
    @mark green

    I concede that it is not the only possible scenario, just the most likely.

    The only possible scenario is the one matching the hard evidence.

    Unless Sirhan had a retractable 4-feet long arm that he could lob behind RFK’s right ear, without the crowd of “witnesses” noticing, he could not have killed him.

  328. Rurik says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I don’t see any way to stop the demographic disaster coming our way.

    or the wars

    but at least we can use our voice to either say ‘no’ or ‘yes’, to these things.

    By supporting a candidate who’s against the wars, at least we have that small tiny way of at least expressing our disapproval for wars and/or white genocide.

    We’re going to get both no matter what. But we don’t have to bow our heads in servile defeat and shuffle away in forlorn dejection. Support for Tulsi is not some Pollyanna, unicorns and rainbows lunacy. Of course she will betray us. But at least supporting her is our only way of protesting the wars.

    It’s not about Tulsi, it’s about us. And voicing our opposition to the Eternal Wars for Israel.

    Trump and the GOP cucks betray their base every time. So we also need to send a message to them, that voting for war and voting for open borders is going to cost them their precious congressional seats.

    It was beautiful when Eric Cantor was tossed out on his ((arse)). We need to do that kind of thing more often. Sure, the scum taking his place will no doubt betray his base as well, but then they need to throw him out on his arse too, rinse and repeat.

    • Agree: Z-man, Colin Wright, renfro
    • Replies: @Art
    , @Twodees Partain
  329. @Johnny Walker Read

    That’s a fake video. Her legs behind the transparent podium don’t look like hers and the two screens are blank most of the time. The lipsink also appears suspicious.

  330. Rurik says:
    @Colin Wright

    Well, of course it’s a fraud. We’re individuals — not part of some Borg collective.

    for centuries the people of Palestine got along very well. Arab, Jew, Christian, Muslim.. they were neighbors and friends and respected each other’s way of life.

    Then something happened. (I suspect you know what ; ), and all of that changed.

    The rights of the individual disappeared overnight, and people were treated differently based on immutable characteristics that they had no control over. Where once a Jew and an Arab were governed by a Rule of Law, now they were governed by the rule of the jungle. If a man or woman or child was an Arab, they would be subject to far different treatment than the Jews – who were a minority welcomed into Palestine- would be. (Such for the wisdom of inviting in minorities, eh?)

    So what that did, was blast to smithereens all notions of individual rights, because an Arab knew he was going to be judged and condemned (and perhaps cut to pieces) simply for being Arab.

    Now, would you castigate such an Arab for eventually returning the favor, and considering the Jews in his midst to be (most likely) his enemy, whom he ought protect himself and his family from, even with deadly force?

    If you are a South African white guy, and you get a notice in the mail from your government, telling you that because of the color of our skin, you are to vacate the farm your family has owned since it was carved out of the jungle hundreds of years ago. And that you will receive zero compensation for it, because your skin color indicates that you are a guilty person with zero rights in your country.

    Could you be forgiven if you started to question your fealty to the principles of the absolute right of the individual vs. the collective?

    Once you are targeted due to your race (and/or gender or other immutable traits), and told that you are to be discriminated against in all things. Jobs, promotions, government contracts, university slots, and any and every other possible way that the government can to fuck over an individual like yourself, in order to benefit the collective everyone else.

    Now, imagine living in such a society. Can such a person be forgiven if he too starts to question the universal ‘truth’ of individual rights vs. the rights of the collective, if he’s the only one who’s practicing such fealty to the noble goals of libertarianism/Objectivism/Christian altruism, etc.. while the entire society around him is shouting at him collectively – ‘fuck you whitey!’ Get your white, racist ass to the back of the line, you God damn racist! We don’t tolerate racism around here!!!’

    It sort of has the effect of dampening a person’s fealty to the idealism of libertarianism.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Z-man
  331. Rurik says:
    @Colin Wright

    The war with Iran is different. Once we’ve started it, we can’t take it back, and although wars in general aren’t very morally defensible, this really will be an especially evil, gratuitous one, that aside from its massively deleterious practical effects, will be a moral failure we will never be able to gainsay.

    Well, while I agree with Robert Dolan, that on that fateful day when whitey is officially, globally politically emasculated, and his myriad and multitudinous enemies finally have his nuts in a sling, that it’s going to be a fait accompli, from which he will never recover. The only reason Charles Martel was victorious at the Battle of Tours, (that other existential moment in our history) was because he was able to call upon the blood and proud spirit of Europa, and rally her sons to her defense.

    But once the men of Europa, (and it’s far flung outposts), are spiritually castrated into Jeb!-like cucks, and reduced to crawling on their hands and knees like De Blasio, then the resentment of the entire world’s collective butt-hurt at whitey, will descend on him like ten thousand armies of SJW, BLM, La Raza, Jihad, and all the rest, to finish him off once and for all.

    But, having said that, your point about the impending war on Iran, being a Rubicon we dare not cross, rings very true indeed.

    I’m just hoping that Putin has intimated that such a folly, will result in a very large glass parking lot where Tel Aviv used to be.

    Let’s hope saner minds prevail.

  332. Z-man says:
    @Rurik

    Yes of course, Iz’rael is the problem. Palestine is the solution.

    • Agree: Rurik
  333. Art says:
    @Rurik

    Support for Tulsi is not some Pollyanna, unicorns and rainbows lunacy. Of course she will betray us. But at least supporting her is our only way of protesting the wars.

    It’s not about Tulsi, it’s about us. And voicing our opposition to the Eternal Wars for Israel.

    Hear hear — Kudos Kudos

    To be hopeless is to be dead!

    Great comment Rurik.

    Art

    • Replies: @Rurik
  334. Rurik says:
    @Art

    Thank you Art.

    I understand the nihilism of some people, but if you get to the point when you believe that there is no hope for anything, and that we’re all doomed, then why get out of bed?

    Just walk up to the edge of a cliff with a gun and thank God you could escape the impending horrors in time.

    Or fight the demons.

    Yes, they’re powerful, and seemingly all-powerful. But if that were true, I wouldn’t be able to post what I post on the Internet.

    We’d be at war with Iran and Russia and anyone else who challenged their Satanic, unilateral domination.

    But we’re not. We still have our guns, we still have the First Amendment, and the one that ensures all the rest- the Second, and we still have our vote/voice.

    Some people might say Trump was chosen all along to beat the war hag, but I don’t think so.

    I think the American people surprised them, and that they didn’t see that coming.

    So until they dismantle the charade, as Frank Zappa so insightfully put it, we still have some shed of hope.

  335. JamesinNM says:

    TG hates wars, but killing innocent babies is okay. Sick to the bone.

  336. JamesinNM says:
    @Rurik

    A dichotomy, she is pro abortion.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  337. @turtle

    You’re kidding, right? How is speaking half the truth going to help? The truth is that these wars are all fought by the US at the behest of Israel. If she isn’t going to tell the whole truth and indict Israel, then she doesn’t intend to do any more to stop the forever war than Trump has done.

    She’s only “educated and articulate” when compared to the other democrat candidates, just as she’s only attractive when compared to other politicians.

  338. @Art

    “Tulsi needs to take on the roll of America’s war conscience.”

    Did you meant the role? If so, she will fuck it up totally, because she’s unwilling to mention WHY the US has been at war continually for so long.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Art
  339. @Biff

    ” There is also a theory out there that a clumsy secret service agent had an “accident”. ”

    SS agents do not carry .22 caliber pistols. They never have.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Biff
  340. Ron Unz says:
    @mark green

    Sirhan’s testimony (see the David Frost interview) as well as eyewitness accounts are very compelling. Plus, the simplest explanation is that Sirhan successfully killed the man who he wanted to kill, stalked, and who he fired his gun at.

    Actually, I think as someone mentioned upthread, in the aftermath of the attack Sirhan claimed to have blacked out and had no memory of the killing. If so, this seems a bit odd since ideological assassins normally take great pride in their successes. Meanwhile, you seem to have completely disregarded all the hard evidence supporting a second gunman, who apparently fired the fatal shot from behind RFK.

    Presumably, you regard the latter claims as coming from “crazy conspiracy-nuts.” But David Talbot is a highly-regarded mainstream journalist, who spent years on the research for his book, which became a national best-seller. Among other things, he quoted the findings of Thomas Noguchi’s, the long-time LA Coroner, who examined RFK’s wounds.

    Moreover, Talbot’s book was very favorably reviewed in the NYT by Prof. Alan Brinkley, an eminent historian. Are Brinkley and the NYT editors also “crazy conspiracy-nuts”?

    I’m certainly no expert in the Kennedy assassinations, and across my entire life I doubt I’ve spent more than just a few weeks investigating the topic, mostly by just reading some of the books. But that’s quite a lot more time than just watching a prison interview on YouTube made decades later.

    Perhaps you can provide some reason to believe that Talbot, Noguchi, Brinkley, and the NYT editors are “crazy conspiracy-theorists”…

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Paul C.
    , @mark green
  341. @Rurik

    “It was beautiful when Eric Cantor was tossed out on his ((arse)). We need to do that kind of thing more often. Sure, the scum taking his place will no doubt betray his base as well, but then they need to throw him out on his arse too, rinse and repeat.”

    Cantor lost to Dave Brat, who lost in ’18 to Abigail Spanberger, a New Jersey born carpetbagger democrat CIA agent.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  342. Iris says:
    @Twodees Partain

    SS agents do not carry .22 caliber pistols. They never have.

    Plus, this is a mix-up: the “clumsy SS serviceman” bogus theory relates to JFK, not to RFK.

    It came up as damage control after the “magic bullet” official thesis got completely trashed.

  343. Rurik says:
    @JamesinNM

    she is pro abortion.

    I take a nuanced view on this.

    Depending on the circumstances, I too am pro-abortion.

    What about you? Mother’s life is imperiled, do you say ‘to heck with the mother, that baby must be born!’

    Some fetuses are horribly deformed. Would you force such a baby to be born, knowing its little life will be excruciating and short? You should see what our gallant boys did in Iraq with depleted uranium munitions. The birth defects can be unspeakable.

    I think these decisions are best left to the parents and their doctor. But I would draw the line on most abortions once the fetus is viable. But that’s just me. And one of the most pitiful things I can imagine is forcing a child into this world if he’s not wanted and not loved.

    • Agree: RobinG, Colin Wright
    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Art
  344. Iris says:
    @Ron Unz

    Perhaps you can provide some reason to believe that Talbot, Noguchi, Brinkley, and the NYT editors are “crazy conspiracy-theorists”…

    …And also why Paul Schrade, an RFK close friend and survivor of the shooting, has also joined the “conspiracy theorists” by publicly endorsing the conclusion that Sirhan could not have shot RFK because he was overcome after two shots.

    “We want a new investigation” Shrade said, “not a reinvestigation — they’ve been done before, and always closed the door on the facts. They know what I do: Sirhan did not kill Bobby Kennedy, a second gunman did. And they haven’t admitted that for 50 years.”

    https://www.thegardenisland.com/2018/06/05/news/paul-schrade-shot-when-rfk-was-killed-says-there-was-a-2nd-gunman/

  345. Rurik says:
    @Twodees Partain

    …she will fuck it up totally, because she’s unwilling to mention WHY the US has been at war continually for so long.

    How many public people do you know who will go on the record and say publically that 9/11 was perpetrated by elements of the Israeli and US governments and media?

    I used to watch Tucker Carlson, (I’ve since unplugged my cable subscription) and so I only see him once in a while when someone posts a video clip to the Internet. But one thing that always struck me, was how he always had to choke back the truth whenever the “Russian collusion!” idiocy was in the news. Tucker mocked the Russian collusion hysteria routinely, but what he did not do, and conspicuously will not do, is say that worrying about foreign meddling in our elections, while not mentioning the Zionist elephant in the living room, makes a mockery of everyone’s honesty.

    Because it’s clear by Tucker’s expressions, that he knows quite well who meddles in our elections to the point of absurdity, but like everyone else, he too speaks of the emperors flowing robes and exquisite raiment.

    The second he fails to check himself, and blurts out ‘foreign meddling, Jesus Gods almighty, has anyone seen an AIPAC conference?!

    http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2016/03/000_8Y9HW.jpg+

    It isn’t only meddling, these treasonous scum bray their eternal fealty to an *enemy nation.

    *How many times did Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya commit acts of war on the US, like the attack on the USS Liberty?

    And yet they all follow the script.

    Gabbard may be a ruse, but as long as she’s the only one saying no to the wars, then she’s got my support.

    And as I’ve said over and over. This isn’t about her. It wasn’t about Trump, it’s about us, and voicing our unequivocal demand that the Endless Wars for Israel come to an end.

    • Agree: turtle
  346. Art says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Art: “Tulsi needs to take on the roll of America’s war conscience.”

    Did you meant the role? If so, she will fuck it up totally, because she’s unwilling to mention WHY the US has been at war continually for so long.

    Thanks for the spelling correction.

    Gabbard used the “N” word last Thursday on Tucker Carlson’s show. She called Netanyahu and Saudi war mongers or something. Nice start – ha!

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @renfro
  347. @Twodees Partain

    ‘…Cantor lost to Dave Brat, who lost in ’18 to Abigail Spanberger, a New Jersey born carpetbagger democrat CIA agent.’

    Still, a useful message was communicated.

    If you start riding too high, wide, and handsome, the goyim will notice — and toss you out on your ass.

  348. turtle says:
    @Rurik

    life will be excruciating and short

    Or, for that matter. long and miserable.
    Which begs the question, “What constitutes ‘viable’?”

    Aside from that, I agree with what you posted.

  349. turtle says:
    @Rurik

    “Enemy nation” is certainly correct.
    Attacking an armed naval vessel of a sovereign nation on the high seas, without provocation, is an act of war, pure and simple. Any nation which does so can reasonably expect retaliation from whoever they attacked, otherwise known as the aggrieved party, a.k.a. innocent victim.
    Claiming “mistaken identity” is no defense. IF you are going to attack an armed naval vessel, you had better damned well be sure of your target. And attempting to buy off your victims is disgusting beyond words.
    And in any case, machine gunning firefighters, stretcher bearers and life rafts are all war crimes, no matter who you claimed you “thought” you were attacking.
    The only reason that Tel Aviv is not now known as “Greenglass City,” and a prime source of Trinitite
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite
    is because Lyndon B. Johnson was a traitor to his country.

    Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.

    Taking positive action to enable an enemy to massacre your own sailors pretty much fits the bill.

    In my opinion, LBJ should have been
    a) impeached for his actions
    b) convicted of treason
    c) executed as a traitor to the United States of America.

    Since the attack on the Liberty occurred 8 June 1967, had justice been served it is at least possible that the U.S. involvement in Vietnam might not have continued to escalate, given public sentiment in the U.S. at the time. The police riots in Chicago, 1968, the Kent State massacre in 1970, etc., might never have happened.Think about it. 58,000 U.S. dead, the U.S. torn apart, and for what? Lyndon Johnson’s ego? Career enhancement for a few top brass? Profit$ for the MIC? Yeah sure, all of the above.

    Göring had it right:

    Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along,

    • Replies: @Rurik
  350. Biff says:
    @Twodees Partain

    SS agents do not carry .22 caliber pistols. They never have.

    The fatal bullet to the back of RFK’s head was a 38 caliber(.357) slug.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  351. turtle says:
    @Rurik

    Oh, and I might add:
    Never forget, and never forgive, a crime against the USA, or against the American people.
    As the saying goes, no better friend, no worse enemy.
    Those who choose to abuse the privilege must pay the just price of hostility, directed eternally against them, and against their kind.

  352. Art says:
    @Rurik

    And one of the most pitiful things I can imagine is forcing a child into this world if he’s not wanted and not loved.

    Rurik — another thoughtful comment – Thanks.

    As an adoptee – I would like to speak up for adoption. Rarely does being adopted the same as being a natural offspring.

    But but but – being alive is great. I am supremely grateful to my biological mother and the folks that took me in and gave me a life.

    Art

    • Agree: Iris, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @Rurik
  353. Paul C. says:
    @Ron Unz

    Meanwhile, you seem to have completely disregarded all the hard evidence supporting a second gunman, who apparently fired the fatal shot from behind RFK.

    Presumably, you regard the latter claims as coming from “crazy conspiracy-nuts.”

    I’m in agreement that there’s more to RFK’s murder than another lone gunman story and have said as much. But I’m mystified by your comment, where you bring up the term “crazy conspiracy nuts”, not once, but 3 times. It shows contempt for your audience, those who come here seeking the truth and are willing to share their insights and research.

    Why do you hold “mainstream journalism” in such high regard? Where has it gotten us, with their relentless lies and omission of facts and stories? Other than on 9/11 itself, why have no “mainstream journalists” interviewed the First Responders of 9/11 in the last 18 years? It’s only the biggest and most important event of our generation, that led to many wars and countless deaths. I’ll answer. They didn’t like what the first responders had to say, with their first-hand reporting of tens if not hundreds of bombs going off in the Twin Towers and Building 7. This narrative (controlled demolition) is very different than what the government and “mainstream journalism” wanted us to believe.

    Who do “mainstream journalists” work for? They work for one of 5 corporations who control nearly all of our media. These corporations are controlled by the largest shareholders, such as investment management firms: BlackRock, the Vanguard Group and the like. Thus, the banking elite controls the press. And history tells us the CIA has also used the media to shape messaging by having “mainstream journalists” on their payroll. At this point, the bankers control their lapdog government servants anyhow, so it’s one in the same.

    There are conspiracies all around us. With discernment, each one of us can determine what has merit and requires more attention. I understand that your method of becoming informed is reading published research. That’s fine but you’re often 20 years late discovering the truth.

    “Mainstream journalists” toe the line, while the majority of folks on the Unz Review have a very keen insight that is anything but the mainstream narrative. This is why it’s a refreshing and an interesting place to come. You might substitute “crazy conspiracy theorist” with “honest truth seeker”.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Jacques Sheete
  354. @Biff

    Show me the proof. The only ballistics I saw listed .22 caliber bullets.

  355. @alexander

    All I can tell you, is that it happened to me.

  356. @Ron Unz

    Ron- I would never call anyone who suspects that a second gunman was involved in RFK’s assassination a “conspiracy nut”. Never. After all, conspiracies do happen. Often.

    A ‘conspiracy’ is nothing more than two or more people planning secretly to execute a crime or foul deed. Conspiracies happen every minute of every day.

    As for lingering questions concerning RFK’s assassination, my strategy to unearth the truth is simple and consistent: follow the evidence wherever it leads.

    Sometimes the evidence is missing. Sometimes it is contradictory. This causes errors. False conclusions. Therefore, it remains entirely possible that there was a second gunman. After all, no one can actually disprove the Second Gunman theory. This I concede happily.

    But the preponderance of evidence still points to one gunman and that man is Sirhan.

    Question: Has Sirhan (who has confessed repeatedly to shooting RFK) ever addressed the ‘second gunman’ theory? It would certainly be very interesting to hear what Sirhan has to say on this subject, don’t you agree?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Twodees Partain
  357. renfro says:
    @alexander

    Carroll Price is right…….Antiwar has removed comments on Israel and Jews….I think it is more the work of his mod (cant remember his name)…..but imo Antiwar has pulled back from Israel criticism the past few years….in the comments at least….I think it was targeted once by one of the Jewish orgs….seem to remember something written about being attacked on the site.

  358. Ron Unz says:
    @mark green

    I would never call anyone who suspects that a second gunman was involved in RFK’s assassination a “conspiracy nut”. Never.

    Sure, that’s reasonable. Though, frankly, I’d say that there are “conspiracy nuts”…

    As for lingering questions concerning RFK’s assassination, my strategy to unearth the truth is simple and consistent: follow the evidence wherever it leads….But the preponderance of evidence still points to one gunman and that man is Sirhan.

    Perhaps I’m demonstrating my own ignorance, but what evidence are you talking about?

    Everyone saw Sirhan holding a gun and shooting at RFK, so that’s a fact that absolutely no one denies. Whether any of his bullets hit RFK, let alone killed him is something else entirely.

    Question: Has Sirhan (who has confessed repeatedly to shooting RFK) ever addressed the ‘second gunman’ theory? It would certainly be very interesting to hear what Sirhan has to say on this subject, don’t you agree?

    From what I vaguely recall, in the aftermath of the shooting, Sirhan claimed to have suffered a blackout and not remember any of the events. But after sitting in prison for a couple of decades and having everyone tell him he’d killed RFK, his memory eventually improved, which may or may not mean anything.

    Since the support for the fatal shot being from a second gunman is based on hard evidence, namely the autopsy report and the acoustic tape, I can’t see why Sirhan would have anything interesting to contribute. Under the Second Gunman Hypothesis, he was just a (drugged?) patsy being used as a distraction.

    Aside from reading the few pages in the Talbot book and a couple of other things here and there, my knowledge of the case is zero. But the evidence that Talbot cites seems so overwhelmingly strong that unless he (and Noguchi) are just lying, I just can’t really see how the official story makes any sense.

    If this were 15-odd years ago, I’d be saying that the official story *must* have strong support somewhere since the Second Gunman evidence simply could not *possibly* have been covered up by the MSM for 50 years. But after discovering so many other “America Pravda” situations, these days I just say, Sure, there was obviously a second gunman…

  359. Ron Unz says:
    @Paul C.

    Why do you hold “mainstream journalism” in such high regard?

    Look, the whole thing isn’t very complicated…

    Suppose leading mainstream journalists, academics, and NYT editors say the official story is true and there was no “conspiracy.” Well, maybe we should believe them and maybe we shouldn’t.

    But if those same establishmentarian sources say there *was* a conspiracy and cite strong evidence to support their position, it’s difficult to see why they’d be saying that if it weren’t true.

    Meanwhile, if a bunch of people I’d never heard of say “there was a conspiracy!” on some website somewhere, I’d need to much more carefully investigate their credibility before I’d believe them.

  360. @Rurik

    Yes, I get that. It’s about y’all. As for me, I don’t watch TV so this whole gov-luv fest for a politician just looks silly to me. Getting behind a politician is like pissing in a big swimming pool: it gives you a warm feeling but it doesn’t change anything.

    Anyway, how do you know that “she’s the only one saying no to the wars”? The news media outlets only give attention to annointed congresstwits. The United States Congress is made up of 100 senators, 435 representatives, and 6 delegates to the House of Representatives. How many of them are given any attention by the media?

    The only ones I see in the news are candidates for the DNC nomination right now. Your girl is the only candidate pretending to be against this forever war, but she isn’t at all convincing.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @Rurik
  361. @Art

    As an adoptive parent, I agree with you.

  362. @mark green

    “But the preponderance of evidence still points to one gunman and that man is Sirhan.”

    No, it doesn’t. The preponderance of evidence points to at least two shooters and it has from the day of the murder. During his trial, The People of the State of California v. Sirhan Sirhan, the judge did not accept his confession and denied his request to withdraw his plea of “not guilty” in order to plead “guilty”.

    There’s a lot more to it than your contention that he repeatedly confessed to the murder. Sirhan was extremely confused in relating his version(s) of his actions, while physical evidence somehow became “unavailable”. There’s a lot that isn’t clear.

  363. renfro says:
    @Art

    Help may be on the way…..the lion and the lamb have found a common cause. As I have said in the past, when non Jewish elites like Koch start to see their interest threatened by the Neo and Jewish control of congress they would make a move. I predict now other non Jewish billionaires and business elites will join them. Neither Soros nor Koch can be unaware of the Jewish push for all the US wars in the ME so they know they will have to neutralize that Fifth Column influence.
    Will be interesting to follow.

    In an astonishing turn, George Soros and Charles Koch team up to end US ‘forever war’ policy

    By Stephen KinzerUpdated June 30, 2019, 5:01 a.m

    [MORE]

    BESIDES BEING BILLIONAIRES and spending much of their fortunes to promote pet causes, the leftist financier George Soros and the right-wing Koch brothers have little in common. They could be seen as polar opposites. Soros is an old-fashioned New Deal liberal. The Koch brothers are fire-breathing right-wingers who dream of cutting taxes and dismantling government. Now they have found something to agree on: the United States must end its “forever war” and adopt an entirely new foreign policy.
    In one of the most remarkable partnerships in modern American political history, Soros and Charles Koch, the more active of the two brothers, are joining to finance a new foreign-policy think tank in Washington. It will promote an approach to the world based on diplomacy and restraint rather than threats, sanctions, and bombing. This is a radical notion in Washington, where every major think tank promotes some variant of neocon militarism or liberal interventionism. Soros and Koch are uniting to revive the fading vision of a peaceable United States. The street cred they bring from both ends of the political spectrum — along with the money they are providing — will make this new think tank an off-pitch voice for statesmanship amid a Washington chorus that promotes brinksmanship.
    “This is big,” said Trita Parsi, former president of the National Iranian American Council and a co-founder of the new think tank. “It shows how important ending endless war is if they’re willing to put aside their differences and get together on this project. We are going to challenge the basis of American foreign policy in a way that has not been done in at least the last quarter-century.”
    Since peaceful foreign policy was a founding principle of the United States, it’s appropriate that the name of this think tank harken back to history. It will be called the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, an homage to John Quincy Adams, who in a seminal speech on Independence Day in 1821 declared that the United States “goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.” The Quincy Institute will promote a foreign policy based on that live-and-let-live principle.
    The institute plans to open its doors in September and hold an official inauguration later in the autumn. Its founding donors — Soros’s Open Society Foundation and the Charles Koch Foundation — have each contributed half a million dollars to fund its takeoff. A handful of individual donors have joined to add another $800,000.

    By next year the institute hopes to have a $3.5 million budget and a staff of policy experts who will churn out material for use in Congress and in public debates. Hiring is underway. Among Parsi’s co-founders are several well-known critics of American foreign policy, including Suzanne DiMaggio, who has spent decades promoting negotiated alternatives to conflict with China, Iran, and North Korea; the historian and essayist Stephen Wertheim; and the anti-militarist author and retired Army colonel Andrew Bacevich.
    “The Quincy Institute will invite both progressives and anti-interventionist conservatives to consider a new, less militarized approach to policy,” Bacevich said, when asked why he signed up. “We oppose endless, counterproductive war. We want to restore the pursuit of peace to the nation’s foreign policy agenda.”

    In concrete terms, this means the Quincy Institute will likely advocate a withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan and Syria; a return to the nuclear deal with Iran; less confrontational approaches to Russia and China; an end to regime-change campaigns against Venezuela and Cuba; and sharp reductions in the defense budget.
    It aims to issue four reports before the end of 2019: two offering alternative approaches to the Middle East and East Asia, one on “ending endless war,” and one called “democratizing foreign policy.” Its statement of principles asserts that the United States “should engage with the world, and the essence of engagement is peaceful cooperation among peoples. For this reason, the United States must cherish peace and pursue it through the vigorous practice of diplomacy . . . The use of armed force does not represent American engagement in the world. Force ends human life, destroying engagement irreparably. Any resort to force should occur only as a last resort and should remain infrequent. The military exists to defend the people and territory of the United States, not to act as a global police force.”

    The depth of this heresy can only be appreciated by recognizing the meretricious power that nourishes Washington’s think-tank ecosystem. These “talk shops” employ experts who pop up to advise politicians, journalists, Congressional staff members, and the public. They write opinion columns and bloviate on news channels. In foreign policy, major Washington think tanks promote interventionist dogma: the United States faces threats everywheralle, it must therefore be present everywhere, and “present” includes maintaining more than 800 foreign military bases and spending trillions of dollars on endless confrontations with foreign countries. That, with some variation, is the ethos that moves conservative think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation as well as liberal ones like the Center for American Progress and the Brookings Institution. Just as pernicious as their relentless support of the global-hegemony project is the corruption that lies behind it. Many Washington think tanks are supported by industries and foreign powers eager to inflate threats in order shape American law, policy, and public opinion. Their “experts” are often paid shills who cloak themselves in institutional respectability so they can masquerade as independent analysts.

    When foreign crises like the war in Yemen break out, critics of US policy emerge and are given space to air their views. These protests, however, are episodic. Little continuity ties one burst of outrage to the next. The Quincy Institute aims to offer a corps of experts in Washington who will promote a unified foreign-policy paradigm based on statecraft and cooperation. Its founders plan to become involved in grass-roots campaigns, especially in minority communities. They hope their specialists will eventually move on to populate Congressional staffs and the executive branch — as alumni of pro-intervention think tanks have been doing for decades.
    “Some interesting currents are emerging in American politics and we want to capture this moment, but we’re in it for the long haul,” said Parsi. “We’ll be a failure if in 10 years we’re still criticizing. In 10 years, we want to be driving the bus.”

  364. @Twodees Partain

    Getting behind a politician is like pissing in a big swimming pool: it gives you a warm feeling but it doesn’t change anything.

    Actually getting behind a politician reminds me of the old saying about sled dogs.:

    If you ain’t the lead dog, the view never changes.

    And, may I add, the “view” is the best one can hope for. I think I’ll go read -Aristophanes, The Knights, (454 BC) instead.

    Cleon and the sausage seller are vying for a political position.

    CLEON
    I do not fear you as long as there is a Senate and a people which stands like a fool, gaping in the air.

    SAUSAGE-SELLER
    They could make nothing of it; or, if they suspected a trick, I hid the meat in my crotch and denied the thing by all the gods-so that an orator, seeing me at the game, cried, “This child will get on; he has the mettle that makes a statesman.”

    LEADER OF THE CHORUS
    He argued rightly; to steal, perjure yourself and make your arse receptive are three essentials for climbing high.

  365. And another thing. As the great philosopher, George Carlin famously said,

    “Fuck hope.”

    Hint: A sense of humor will stand one in better stead than hope ever could.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  366. @renfro

    Nothing astonishing about it. As you said, they see their interests threatened. The threat is no doubt the relatively adult behavior of the Russian and Chinese leadership which makes “our” juvenile boneheads look like the loathesome, pathetic, treacherous, clowns they’ve long been.

  367. @Paul C.

    Why do you hold “mainstream journalism” in such high regard?

    And why do people insist on using the term,”mainstream,” for a system obviously employed to brainwash people into thinking the interests of the masses coincide with those of the ruling cliques? The term, “mainstream” is obviously calculated to intimidate people into believing whatever the “elite” want them to because few are willing to hold views contrary to what they think most of the others believe. Most folks want to conform and are easily swayed to believe whatever appears to be popular, or “mainstream.” It’s “groupthink” and the term itself is a form of propaganda.

    The term “mass media” is much more honest, better describes what it’s always been, and should be reinstated.

  368. @Kevin Barrett

    You are absolutely right Kevin.
    I believe Alan Sabrosky agrees as well

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  369. @Patrikios Stetsonis

    No doubt tRump knows as well, but lies like Hell.

    • Replies: @Patrikios Stetsonis
  370. Rurik says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Yes, I get that. It’s about y’all.

    well, if by ‘y’all’, you mean those of us who are against:

    Eternal Wars for Israel- based on lies…

    America openly running a torture camp..

    Trillions upon trillions of dollars of loot borrowed to slaughter and maim and starve to death hundreds of thousands of innocent people and destroy entire countries..

    Death drones patrolling the skies and terrorizing people who’ve done us no harm, while we’ve taught their children to fear the very skies above their little heads, as a source of arbitrary death.

    A cozy partnership with a regime in Saudi Arabia that hacks limbs from people who say things they don’t like. When they’re not starving to death an entire nation of people for their failure to submit to this two-bit, stone age, POS tyrant.

    Fomenting a putsch in Ukraine where thousands are maimed and butchered because ((they)) don’t like Putin’s policy in Syria..

    menacing Venezuela and sabotaging their power-grid, imposing sanctions, denying them their gold, and generally acting like a bully and asshole on the world’s stage, who thinks ((they)) can decide everyone else’s government.

    >>sigh<<, I really could go on at some length here…

    ..Imposing sanctions upon unaggressive nations that deny the most desperate- access to medicines and clean water, leading to untold deaths, especially among children..

    Occupying Afghanistan to facilitate the CIA heroin trafficking operations..

    Propping up dictators and war pigs in assorted nations the world over..

    And I suppose I'll end this with what 'we'all' are doing vis-a-vis Iran. Plotting a regime change that could very easily ignite WWIII, and a nuclear (real) holocaust that could result in horrors literally unimaginable, and massive swaths of planet earth being uninhabitable by man"kind" or anything else.

    So yea, when you say "It’s about y’all", insofar as you're speaking about those of us who're opposed to the things I've listed, (and much more), then you are correct sir! It's about us – saying 'fuck that shit' – to ((their)) Eternal Wars, and all the rest of it.

    this whole gov-luv fest for a politician just looks silly to me.

    that’s your right dude. But it was voting that prevented the war hag from being in the Oval Office, and try, in your most fevered nightmares, to imagine what that would be like today.

    Think of her cackling over Gadaffi. (I think of Waco, and those people deliberately burned alive. Bill Clinton is a buffoon and a dufus, but I don’t see him as the kind of person who would order the death by burning alive, for a people having the temerity to defy his ‘power’. But the war hag? In my heart of hearts I believe the war bitch told her FBI, ‘burn those MFs alive. No one gets out’. And they did burn them alive. To the last child.

    Just look at the rats being exposed scurrying and slithering out the Democrat arm of the deepstate. McCabe and Strzok and Comey and Brenan and Clapper and all the other treasonous rats.

    These scum were entrenched at the highest levels of the fecal government. And by voting for Trump, (even as the lessor of evils), these execrable rats have been exposed.

    The war sow would have demanded a no-fly zone in Syria. We all know it. The mantra ‘Assad has to go’, would have become CIA/Pentagon policy. But Assad is still there, and the reason for that is because Americans voted for the anti-war candidate.

    Did we get all we asked for? Of course not. But we did avoid the war hag, and I suspect that none of us can really wrap our brains around the enormity of just how big a disaster that would have been.

    Some suggest that it’s all an idiotic waste of time. That putting support behind someone like Ron Paul, (for instance), is not going to change anything. Because ((they’d)) never let a guy like Paul anywhere near the actual levers of power, no matter what. And perhaps that’s true, but it doesn’t stop the rest of us from saying; ‘Yea, I support Ron Paul, because he’s against the evil Eternal Wars for Israel. And thinks the NDAA is treasonous, and is against Total Government Surveillance, and seems to be honest..

    What’s wrong with voicing your support for a candidate that says the things you believe are salient and vitally important?

    If Jessie Ventura decides to run as an independent, with a platform that includes an actual investigation into 9/11, ending the wars, enforcing the border, arresting the war criminals, deporting the invaders, busting up the monopolies like Google and Amazon and Facebook and Big Phama and Big Oil and ((Big media)), and returning America to a semblance of sanity…

    Then what would be wrong with saying.. ‘I support Jessie. I like what he says’. They might kill him, but then he’d be a martyr against the Satanic fiend that is driving this world to the brink of madness.

    They want this century to be as horrific as the last one was. That was the whole point of 9/11, as their pretext to slaughter Amalek (we’all) and enslave the planet. 60+ millions souls were butchered in their magnum opus- WWII. That contrived mass-psychosis, and the burning of Germany to the ground, has established them as the undisputed masters of the Western world. It’s now increasingly illegal to even criticize their genocidal crimes anywhere in the Western world. Including even here in the ZUSA, where treasonous State legislators all vie to lick their feculent hand. Florida’s governor being perhaps the most obviously loathsome. But it’s a wide-ranging phenomena, oozing its black treason over the whole nation.

    Anyways, that’s why I voice support for Tulsi. Not because I believe she’s going to change anything, but because I believes some things need changing, and mouse-like, cringing silence, has never been my style.

  371. Rurik says:
    @Art

    Thank you (again) Art,

    … but – being alive is great. I am supremely grateful to my biological mother and the folks that took me in and gave me a life.

    In a perfect world, I would like to think every child born will have loving parents with the wherewithal to give them the necessities of life. (Love being perhaps the most important), and I join you in expressing gratitude for the great luck at having been given life, and loving parents.

    But I don’t have to tell you that all babies are not so fortunate. Some languish in the womb afflicted by anencephaly, and other nightmarish conditions. No compassionate person could possibly want to hand such a baby to its mother, knowing it would break her heart – and die within days.

    The Lord works in mysterious ways, and I, for one, am not equipped to cypher His wisdom. But I do know that a fetus with anencephaly, (about one in every thousand) should be aborted as soon as is humanly, (and humanely) possible. IMHO.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  372. Rurik says:
    @turtle

    In my opinion, LBJ should have been
    a) impeached for his actions
    b) convicted of treason
    c) executed as a traitor to the United States of America.

    I wholeheartedly agree! Turtle,

    And not just LBJ. But any president who betrays our service men in action, or lies America into war.

    The ‘babies in incubators’ does the trick for me, as far as GHWB.

    There he is at the end of this video, lying America into war.

    Hopefully, every infinitesimal moment of agony Bush’s lies inflicted upon others, is exactly what he’s feeling for eternity in the bowels of Hell.


    Clinton sealed his fate by grossly violating all the rules of International Law, when he bombed Serbia.

    Dubya should be on the dock with Tony Blair, facing the same gallows they lynched Saddam at.

    The bucks stops with Obama, for ‘waging aggressive war’ on Libya. If that was the crime they hanged the Nazis for, when what’s good for the goose…

    As for Trump, it seems he’s continuing the drone assassination program, and that’s clearly a war crime. Among other atrocities.

    But he hasn’t started any new wars, in spite of the MASSIVE (((pressure))) to do so.

    So as long as he finishes his term without knuckling under to the tribe for more wars, I suppose I’ll have to concede that is at least one thing, that most professional politicians would not have been able to accomplish.

    Cheers.

  373. Excellent advise: Trade CFR member John Bolton for CFR member Tulsi Gabbard. That would be a great change!

  374. @Rurik

    ” Anyways , thats why I voice support for Tulsi”

    Just wtf does it take for you naive clueless ignoranti to realize that she, Tulsi, is nothing but a trojan horse for the rest of the insane Democrats.
    You are basing your support for her upon what she : SAYS, and you apparently have not yet grasped the cold hard fact that it does not matter what any Democrat, and most Republicans say, as at the end of the day they will always follow party line.
    She is a fork-tongued scoundrel such as HC/BC/BO etc, etc, etc, and she will do nothing but hasten the final coffin-nails for the US into place.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  375. gsjackson says:
    @Rurik

    “…mouse-like, cringing silence has never been my style.”

    Who knew?

    To an earlier point: Bubba, a buffoon and dufus? Slick Willie? That’s not my take on him. He’s the glibbest pol I’ve ever seen, and very bright, much more so than the war hag. Or at least more politically astute — enough to know she should have campaigned in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. But less evil? Do you really think the Clinton body count is all her doing?

    The book Partners in Power by Roger Morris is an exhaustive account of where they both came from and how they got so crooked, hand-in-hand. Hillary was just a typical suburbanite going to MYF, where she first got politicized (on the lefft), but Bubba was to the manor born, so to speak. He practically grew up in the Arkansas underworld, in Hot Springs, which was Las Vegas until about the mid-50s.

  376. @renfro

    No link? Stephen Kinzer is usually full of shit. This could have come from The Guardian. Did it? Describing George Soros as “old-fashioned New Deal liberal” is an outright lie. Describing the Koch brothers as “fire-breathing right-wingers who dream of cutting taxes and dismantling government” is downright hilarious.

    Isn’t it obvious that the Koch brothers and Soros have been swapping spit and dry humping for years while pretending to be on opposite sides? If it isn’t then it might be time to cut back on the TV viewing.

    Didn’t any of this strike you as being the work of a brain-dead MSM leftard asshole? Kinzer was an NYT propagandist for about 20 years. He doesn’t have it in his character to write anything besides propaganda for people like Soros and the Koch boys.

    • Replies: @renfro
  377. @Rurik

    No, by “y’all” I mean those of you here who think that “supporting” a duplicitous, asswipe politician like Tulsi Gabbard just because she tells part of the truth about forever war is accomplishing something.

    Thanks for limiting your reply to 1,000 words. Most of it was still wasted on me, because I don’t slavishly read such long screeds written in response to a short, simple statement. You have your opinion on this and I have mine.

    Wait and see who turns out to be closer to the truth about little Pizza Face.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  378. Art says:
    @renfro

    The Quincy Institute aims to offer a corps of experts in Washington who will promote a unified foreign-policy paradigm based on statecraft and cooperation. Its founders plan to become involved in grass-roots campaigns, especially in minority communities.

    They are avoiding the “Israel” and “Jew” issues.

    Hmm — how can that work, when Israel and Jews are central to our endless wars?

    If the Quincy Institute hires Jews – it will be game over – it will become a false flag operation.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @RobinG
  379. @Rurik

    Regarding Tucker’s failure to mention the ((( pack of pachyderm ))) in the room, I agree.

    Although Tucker has been generally on the right side of things, he has, nonetheless demonstrated that he sometimes suffers from cognitive dissonance, or worse, intellectual dishonesty.

    To wit, he has developed a habit of labeling the swamp creatures as “libertarian.” What moron would characterize denizens of the deep state as “libertarian.?” He has also developed a penchant for labeling los grandes jefes tecnologicos as “libertarian.” Who, in their right mind, considers Bezos, Gates, and Zucherberg champions of free minds and free markets?

    Speaking of Big Tech, all he does is beg for BIG GOVERNMENT TO SAVE THE DAY. Only losers do that. His solution? Bring back the mass murderer: Teddy Roosevelt. Loser.

    Moreover, Tucker has an anti-marijuana fetish fit for a soy boy seeking the approbation of bad ass drug warriors. His mind is infected with reefer madness propaganda.

    In addition, its not like the guy is pushing for 9/11 truth. Any decent bloke would be insisting upon an investigation conducted by folks who have never spent a day in the public sector and who have never been a lobbyist and who have no ties to (( them ))). Tucker is just too chicken shit.

    If he was truly committed to terminating the empire, he would never fellate veterans; he would criticize the incessant military appreciation and veneration; and he would hammer home the point that military men are not leader and do not make life better. He would remind folks that if you want to be all you can be, the chances are far greater that you will kill yourself, beat your wife, and be feeding at the public trough the rest of your life for “defending our freedomz.”

    The upshot: Tucker is controlled opposition. Prove me wrong.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  380. @Authenticjazzman

    … she will do nothing but hasten the final coffin-nails for the US into place.

    Which US are you referring to, the one as advertised or the corrupt monstrosity we have today, or what? And what would be so bad about snuffing the thing anyway?

    FYI, there never has been a USA as advertised, Lincoln finalized the coffin nailing on that, the place became a rich Commie playpen under FDR, and has degenerated precipitously in all ways since that time. A putative genius shouldn’t need to have these things pointed out. And if yer so smart, then why do you brag about being an Army vet?

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    , @Art
  381. @Jacques Sheete

    He probably hasn’t read much of Laurence Vance’s work on the military.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  382. @Liberty Mike

    He probably hasn’t read much of Laurence Vance’s work on the military.

    I’ll check to see if it’s in comic book form and forward it to him. Vance is excellent.

    BTW, I was just re-reading this, posted previously here on UR, and must say that there hasn’t been much worth saving since Wilson’s time. It’s a crying shame what this country has become, and the military is a significant part of its demise. Anyone who would brag about, apologize for, or defend, anything about the feral government has bats in the belfry.

  383. Art says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Authenticjassman and 2d’s feel an overwhelming psychological need to advertise their size – one his mega brain – the other his massive chest.

    Hmm???

    • Replies: @RobinG
  384. @Jacques Sheete

    Thanks for the link, I will read it on Wednesday / Thursday as it is too long to read now and it is time to retire. You will recall I have read your recommendations in the past.

  385. RobinG says:
    @Art

    A theory is that Soros and Koch both want sanctions removed for the sake of business. My feeling is that Parsi is a semi-coopted gatekeeper type. They may not need Jews.

    Went to a TULSI-2020 organizing meeting, 1st around here. She needs over 40,000 new individual donors to qualify for 3rd debate. If everyone who’s already donated asked a friend…. she’d be fine. The important thing is to get her message out, come what may.

  386. @Rurik

    Anencephaly is more rare than that, 3 in 10,000 babies:
    https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/anencephaly.html

    In any event, what we allow for a genetically human being who lacks any higher-brain and will never develop one, doesn’t shed light on whether we should allow a woman to hire a “doctor” to kill a child whom she voluntarily created, who suffers no such permanent defect preventing him from thinking, choosing, and governing himself.

    Vast majority of pregnancies do not result in anencephaly. And are not the result of rape, either.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  387. @anon

    Carter came out of the closet to some degree, with age what can they do to you? In a 100 years Pat’s books will be card catalog (e-catalog) entries at best, little more. To come out full bore with the truth, now, would make a significant impact, while his mental faculties are still sharp. Pat has been mostly cornered with the tinge of anti-sem, speaking realpolitik for real could make a difference and a historic legacy that lasts beyond the 50 year statue moratorium.

  388. @anon

    … all while turning us against each other in the process…

    Sad and true. They’re obviously experts at doing that. They turn individuals, groups and countries against one another and profit from the process and the results.

  389. @Jacques Sheete

    ” I’ll check to see if it’s in comic book form and forward it to him”

    Yeah go ahead and do that and I will be anxiously looking for the postman every day such as when I was a kid back in Michigan and waiting every day for my kellogs box-top atom bomb ring to arrive in the mail, and those items always took three months to show up.

    Look you pseudo-intellectual cynical rectum, as far as reading things in comic book form, myself I have consumed Das kapital, und Das Manifest, in original German, and you, double-digit IQ neophyte, wouldn’t get past the first page with the majority of philosophical and political stuff I have gone through in my eventful lifetime.
    You are a bored guy, and trying to compensate for your empty life with your internet fantasies.

    AJM

  390. Rurik says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Tulsi Gabbard just because she tells part of the truth about forever war is accomplishing something.

    telling even part of the truth

    https://www.rt.com/usa/384169-tulsi-gabbard-syria-strike-assad/

    in a sea of ((devil’s lies)), can be a revolutionary thing.

  391. Rurik says:
    @Liberty Mike

    Speaking of Big Tech, all he does is beg for BIG GOVERNMENT TO SAVE THE DAY. Only losers do that. His solution? Bring back the mass murderer: Teddy Roosevelt.

    Well Mike, do you think it’s OK for Google to have a monopoly on the information (or lack of) that people can access on the Internet?

    Tucker is just too chicken shit.

    no one in “respectable” public life can openly question the 9/11 narrative.

    But Tucker has been a God-send on the lies for more wars in Syria and Iran. He’s ripped neocons like Max Boot to shreds, and I’ll take what I can get, on the ((controlled media)).

    Tucker is controlled opposition. Prove me wrong.

    Well, like I said, the PTB want war, and Tucker is against it. So there’s that.

    Also, as I said, I’d bust up Google (and Big Pharma and ((Big media)), and lots of other ‘Bigs’) too if I had my druthers.

    Allowing pharmaceuticals to merge into monopolies so they can gouge people who need medicine, seems sort of evil to me.

    But even worse, is allowing a few ‘pajama boys’ to decide what people can read and access over the Internet, (or not) depending on those soy boys identity politics, is insane. IMHO.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  392. Rurik says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Vast majority of pregnancies do not result in anencephaly. And are not the result of rape, either.

    OK, so it sounds like to me that in the rare cases of rape or horrific deformities, that you’re OK with abortion- in those rare cases. Fair enough.

    We both agree that abortions should be regulated and in some cases, even outlawed. I wouldn’t allow a woman to decide at the last minute to abort her baby, simply because she was overwrought during child birth, and said to the doctor, ‘I changed my mind doc’, kill the baby’.

    I would have laws against such things, and so I’m not aligned with the entire liberal-progressive agenda, who actually do think that such a mother should have such a choice.

    We should avoid the ‘every sperm is sacred’, extremism, while at the same time, have societal protections for a healthy, viable fetus in the womb, and prohibit abortions for superficial reasons of arbitrary convenience.

    Yes?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  393. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    I wouldn’t allow a woman to decide at the last minute to abort her baby, simply because she was overwrought during child birth, and said to the doctor, ‘I changed my mind doc’, kill the baby’.

    I would have laws against such things, and so I’m not aligned with the entire liberal-progressive agenda, who actually do think that such a mother should have such a choice.

    There is no such thing. Shame on Trump (and you) for such false allegations.

  394. Rurik says:

    There is no such thing. Shame on Trump (and you) for such false allegations.

    OK then Robin,

    You tell us..

    At what point do the pro-abortion extremists say a baby can not be aborted?

    Because as I understand it, they say it is up to the point right before a baby takes its first breath.

    IOW, even in the maternity ward during delivery, a woman’s absolute right to choose, is inviolate and sacrosanct, until the baby has taken its first breath.

    Now please show me some evidence that contradicts that.

    Show me and the rest of us, at what point, exactly, does Planned Parenthood and the DNC platform say that ‘an abortion should be prohibited after this point’.

    If you can show me the Democrat platform that specifically gives a moment after which a fetus must not, by law, be aborted, (other than its first breath) then I’ll concede I was wrong.

    And if you can’t, then you’re just doing what you do, and trolling an otherwise honest person, telling the truth, because you’re opposed to my truth-telling in other ways.

    I’ll be interested to see in what way that is it I, that should be ashamed…

  395. @Rurik

    Google? I abhor it.

    Facebook? I loathe it.

    Amazon? I detest it.

    No, I do not want anybody to have a de jure monopoly with regard to any product or service, including the pajama boys. Does Google or Facebook enjoy a de jure monopoly with respect to internet access? Do they enjoy a de jure monopoly with respect to internet expression? The ability to monetize one’s message, product, or service?

    Tucker would have you believe that Google and Facebook do have such de jure monopolies upon the basis of 47 U.S.C. 230. Only a mendacious trust busting progressive would argue that the statute allows Google or Facebook to enjoy a monopoly on internet access. What the law does is immunize internet access companies from liability flowing from the publication of speech on a given platform.

    Yes, Google and Facebook’s share of Internet advertising revenue is reportedly 85% of the market. No, I don’t like that.

    Yes, Google and Facebook do actively prevent the free and unfettered expression of ideas and information that the ((( powers that be ))) do not like.

    But, why would a smart man like yourself look to the likes of Teddy Roosevelt or Lizzy Warren to solve a problem when history instructs us that the better solution is market disruption? Google and Facebook are ripe to be taken down.

    Have you ever read Burton Fulsom’s “The Myth of the Robber Barrons?” If not, please do so.

    Tucker is often economically ignorant. Trust busting is for progressives and for political entrepreneurs.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  396. Rurik says:
    @Liberty Mike

    Does Google or Facebook enjoy a de jure monopoly with respect to internet access?

    Not with respect to Internet access, per se, but search engine results, that everyone counts on to be objectively informed, yes, they do.

    They’re effectively the gatekeepers of knowledge and information, and as such, wield almost absolute power over the respective narratives.

    And like Facebook, also with staggering power, their arbitrary use of that power to shut out voices they personally don’t like, is Orwellian.

    What the law does is immunize internet access companies from liability flowing from the publication of speech on a given platform.

    Well Mike, I can understand an AI type of platform, sans any human biases- as deserving such immunity. But the second they pick and choose stories or websites or products to favor or disfavor on their human whims, then they should be liable for multi-billion dollar libel awards.

    But, why … look to the likes of Teddy Roosevelt … [anti-trust] when history instructs us that the better solution is market disruption?

    Because the government has been involved since day one. Handing out FCC licenses to radio and television broadcasters (or not) depending on their agendas.

    It’s always been regulated, and it was supposed to be regulated in such a way as to prevent monopolies and the domination of news and information, into a smaller and smaller group of people. Check out Colin Powel’s son, under Dubya, and his serial treasons, allowing massive consolation of the news and entertainment media under his watch.

    Things have to be regulated. Banks with FDIC insurance have to be regulated, or they’ll do another S&L mass looting, which was really what the whole ‘Housing Bubble’ was, another contrived mass looting, because the regulators were all bought off.

    So, anyways yes, I’m with you in spirit as far as not trusting the gov. Believe me.

    But at least they’re nominally accountable to the voters, and held to certain laws, whereas the pajama boys are using powers that a dictatorial tyrant could only dream of, and abusing those powers to the detriment of us all.

    I despise Teddy Roosevelt, but he was right about trust busting, (and the environment). IMHO.

  397. @Jacques Sheete

    May be he is hiding “it”, as an ace in his sleeve, for the last couple years of his second term.
    Can you imagine on year 2022 to order a new investigation on 9/11?
    They gonna run like rats, going to hide in Israel.

  398. al-Qaida didn’t attack you on 911, as Gabbard asserts. Your Zionists did. The evidence is overwhelming.

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