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Among the reasons Donald Trump is president is that his natural political instincts are superior to those of any other current figure.

As campaign 2018 entered its final week, Trump seized upon and elevated the single issue that most energizes his populist base and most convulses our media elite.

Warning of an “invasion,” he pointed to the migrant caravan that had come out of Honduras and was wending its way through Mexico. He then threatened to issue an executive order ending birthright citizenship.

As other caravans began to assemble in Central America, Trump said he would send, first 5,200 and then 15,000, troops to the border.

This ignited the predictable hysteria of the media elite who decried his “racism,” his “lying” and his “attack on the 14th Amendment.” Trump, they railed, is sending more troops to the Mexican border than we have in Syria or Iraq.

True. But to most Americans, the fate and future of the republic is more likely to be determined on the U.S.-Mexican border than on the border between Syria and Iraq.

Moreover, in challenging birthright citizenship, Trump has some constitutional history on his side.

The 14th Amendment, approved in 1868, was crafted to overturn the Dred Scott decision of 1857 and to guarantee citizenship and equal rights under law to freed slaves and their children.

Did it guarantee that everyone born on U.S. soil is a U.S. citizen?

No. In the 1884 Elk v. Wilkins decision, the Supreme Court ruled that John Elk, a Winnebago Indian born on a reservation, had not denied his constitutional right to vote, as he was not a U.S. citizen.

Not for 56 years, when Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, did Native Americans become U.S. citizens.

Also, the 14th Amendment confers citizenship on those born in the U.S. and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” Children of foreign diplomats, though born here, are not citizens.

Most legal scholars do not think Trump can, by executive order, determine who is or is not a citizen under the 14th Amendment.

Yet should Trump issue an executive order and lose in the Supreme Court, the controversy could raise public consciousness and force Congress to enact legislation to clarify what the 14th Amendment precisely means.

Only Canada and the United States, among advanced nations, have birthright citizenship. No European country does. And the Conservative Party in Canada is moving to end it. Does it make sense to grant all the honor, privileges and rights of lifetime U.S. citizenship to anyone who can fly to the U.S. or evade the Border Patrol and have a baby?

Nor is this a small matter. The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 6 percent of U.S. births (250,000 per year) are to undocumented immigrants.

Yet that 250,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to the total number of immigrants now coming. In 2016, President Obama’s last full year, 1.75 million legal and illegal immigrants arrived, a record.

With two months to go in 2017, the estimated arrivals of legal and illegal immigrants is 1.61 million.

Thus, in two years, 2016 and 2017, the United States will have absorbed more migrants, legal and illegal, than all the people of the 13 states when we became a nation.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies, there are 44.5 million immigrants in the U.S. today, legal and illegal, a number that far exceeds the total U.S. population, North and South, at the time of the Civil War.

While almost all of our immigration before 1965 was from Europe, only 1 in 10 immigrants now comes from the Old Continent.

Mexico, Central and South America, and the Caribbean provide a plurality of migrants, legal and illegal. They have displaced East Asia and South Asia — China, Korea, the Philippines, India — as the primary contributors to the burgeoning U.S. population.

We are assured that the greater the racial, ethnic, religious and cultural diversity we have, the stronger a nation we shall become. Whether true or not, we are going to find out.

For the European population of America, 90 percent of the country in 1965, will have fallen to about 60 percent by 2020, and whites are headed for minority status about 20 years after that.

Of America’s most populous states — California, Texas, Florida and New York — the first two are already minority-majority and the latter two are not far behind.

Yet the gaps between Asian and white Americans, and Hispanic and African-Americans — in income and wealth, crime rates and incarceration rates, test scores and academic achievements — are dramatic and are seemingly enduring.

To the frustration of egalitarians, the meritocracy of free and fair competition in this most diverse of great nations is producing an inequality of rewards and a visible hierarchy of achievement.

Politically, continued mass migration to the USA by peoples of color, who vote 70-90 percent Democratic, is going to change our country another way. Red state America will inevitably turn blue.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Thank God Trump won in 2016.

    It may not be enough anyway; but it definitely would have been the end had Hillary Clinton won.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Realist
  2. My dear Mr. Buchanan, let me wish you enjoyment of a Happy 80th Birthday! May God grant you many more returns of the day and find it fitting to continue ever to keep you in His grace.

    • Agree: David
  3. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:

    The situation is even worse here in Canada. Our SOMALI BORN “immigration minister” has just announced that Canada will now accept 350,000 immigrants annually. This is equivalent to TWICE the numbers in America and Canada was 99% white in 1965. True madness.

  4. Realist says:

    Mass Migration: Mortal Threat to Red State America

    Great job of stating the obvious.

  5. Realist says:
    @Colin Wright

    Thank God Trump won in 2016.

    Trump has done nothing to seriously stop the immigration problem. He is talking it up now to fire up his base….nothing will happen.

    He could have eliminated our immigration problem 10 minutes after his inauguration.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  6. KenH says:

    Nor is this a small matter. The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 6 percent of U.S. births (250,000 per year) are to undocumented immigrants.

    That’s a laugh. Considering estimates of various metrics dealing with illegal alien are usually ultra-conservative and always on the low side it’s very likely illegal alien births are 2-3x that percentage.

    My only concern with Trump’s pending EO is if it’s all just bait and switch for the midterms. After all, Trump also told us we’d get a wall and we still don’t have one. Instead he’s trying to convince us that repairs and a fresh coat of paint on the existing bollard fencing is the wall.

    So it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s keeping us all in suspense and then right after the midterms he’ll change his mind and tell us that Congress must act on birthright citizenship, but crap, the Democrats took control of the House so now we can’t do anything until 2020.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  7. TTSSYF says:
    @KenH

    If the Dems take the House (which I’m not at all sure they will do), Trump may give them a chance to act. But if they don’t act or, if they don’t take the House, look to see Trump throw what little caution he has to the wind and act on this in some very bold ways.

  8. It’s a shame to see Pat adopting the language of the left – “undocumented immigrants”, rather than what they are – illegal immigrants. This is why we now say “Happy Holidays” rather than Merry Christmas, among many other things.

    This is why the left keeps winning, the right keeps ceding ground to them.

  9. @Johnny Smoggins

    “It’s a shame to see Pat adopting the language of the left – “undocumented immigrants”, rather than what they are – illegal immigrants. ”

    Hear, hear!

  10. Nawi says:

    “Does it make sense to grant all the honor, privileges and rights of lifetime U.S. citizenship…”

    Nice piece of propaganda/garbage. More or less like “our soldiers in Irak are heroes..” or “they hate us for our freedoms..”

    Along with Eritrea and North Korea, US is the other country that taxes its citizens no matter where they live and if somebody wants lo leave the plantation they even charge an “exit tax”.

    I do not want a US passport even if the goverment offers me a few million dollars.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  11. @Nawi

    I do not want a US passport even if the goverment offers me a few million dollars.

    I understand your point of view, Nawi, but I know you wouldn’t have said that in 1970 or earlier. The country has changed drastically, and there is a reason people are still attached to the idea of the American Republic as it once was.

    You should keep in mind that Mr. Buchanan here was one of the good guys that was trying to stop the madness that you write about in your comment. He is very much behind the times in his use of wording, as you say, and I sure as hell don’t know why he picked up this “undocumented” crap either.

    Anyway, Happy Birthday to Pat Buchanan, a conservative fighter for > 5 decades and counting. VDare has this article on Mr. Buchanan, by a guy named Wayne Allensworth.

  12. @KenH

    Can I agree with you and Colin Wright (comment#1) at the same time, Ken? Yeah, the Hildabeast would have just ended this nation a whole lot quicker than it will (most likely), and it would have been sickening to me to hear about her as President.

    That said, this business about “Trump is helping us elect more R’s. It’s working out great!” is of not helping matters if nothing significant is getting done anyway. Look, we’ve HAD a GOP led congress and senate for 1 3/4 years now! If we can’t get it done now, who says it’ll be different. Oh, we’re gettin more “Trumpians” rather than “never-Trumpers”? OK, that’s good, but if they follow Trump’s lead, then Trump better get down to leading, not just jawboning.

    Now, that more said, Trump’s use of the bully pulpit is still a very positive thing. There are people that may read Pat Buchanan but otherwise be completely innumerate and not truly understand the the immigration invasion is an EXISTENTIAL PROBLEM for this country (and believe me, I had never used that word before, and thought it was only used by goateed soy-boys at the coffee shops!) More people will get “woke” on the right side of bed.

  13. AWM says:

    After watching the immigration issue since 1974, divide, conquer, and do nothing but kick the can is the official policy of the United States Government.
    President Trump is trying to change it, but little to no cooperation from either side of the aisle is forthcoming. He should research the deal that Reagan got for illumination.
    The president should appoint Duncan MacCleod to patrol the aisle between the Left and Right, and use his katana to cut off the arm of anyone that dares reach across.

  14. “Mortal threat to Red State America”

    is the entire purpose behind Raj Chetty’s work. He is being paid to sift through the data until he comes up with a semi-plausible pattern that will provide window dressing to cover the Democrat’s plan to move third-worlders and inner-city, dysfunctional poor out to rural, largely white communities. The aim is to colonize the last remaining bastion of traditional American communities and to extirpate the values they support.

    The genius of the plan is that it will bear the mantle, the veneer, of economic substantiality. Who can question the numbers? After all, he has access to this huge data base.

    But his method begs the question. It’s not the numbers per se that are bad rather it’s the initial assumptions about human nature that are flawed. A human community is more than an aggregate of rational-acting, economic units of production and consumption.

  15. Trump’s great, but it’s time that we all face that White America – Red State America – has a terminal disease and will not survive as we know it. It’s like having an undiagnosed cancer. You generally feel pretty good day to day but in a year or two, you’ll be dead.

    Look at the birth percentages by state. Here are the states where whites already are the minority (or very near minority) of births:

    Alaska – 52
    Arizona – 42
    California – 27 – 27%!
    Connecticut – 54
    Delaware – 53
    Florida – 44
    Georgia (yes, Georgia) – 45
    Hawaii – 20
    Illinois – 53
    Louisiana – 52
    Maryland – 43
    Misssissippi – 51
    Nevada – 38
    New Jersey – 45
    New Mexico – 28
    New York – 48
    North Carolina – 54
    Texas – 34

    OK, you say, but most of those are blue states. Red state American is still pretty damn white. Wrong!

    Eight of the states above are red states. Here’s the other red states with below 60% White births:

    Alabama
    Oklahoma
    South Carolina

    Eleven red states have White births below 60%. A bunch of others are between 60% and 70%.

    If you think that everything will be alright because there are still states in the 80s and 90s. First, only seven states have 80% or higher births to Whites, and most of them are tiny. Second, how long will that last. Minnesota is at 70%. What was Minnesota 20 years ago? Probably very near 90. These numbers can change fast.

    Kansas is down to 71%, Massachusetts is 59%, Nebraska is 70%.

    The White population as a % of the total population isn’t just falling in blue states. It’s falling everywhere. Combine these birth figures with immigration, and you can see the writing on the wall.

    I don’t know where all of this is headed, but one thing is for sure: The old ways of viewing politics will no longer work. The right-left ideological battles will give way to tribal political battles.

    Change the population and you change the country. The United States as it was known for 200 years will slowly die because it’s demographic will slowly change. Mexican, Central Americans, Africans, Asians are not European. They will not behave or think like Europeans. They will not honor our forefathers and what they built because those men where not their forefathers.

    It’s time to quit trying to save a dying man and to start thinking about what comes next and how you, your family and your people can survive and prosper.

  16. @anon

    The situation is worse, because our treasonous Supreme Court ruled, in a case involving illegal entry by Sikhs, that the illegal entrants, because they had set foot on Canadian soil, were covered by our (illegally passed) Constitution. By extension, all babies born to non-Canadians have those rights, which translates into citizenship – except for diplomats, of course.

  17. @Realist

    ‘Trump has done nothing to seriously stop the immigration problem…’

    I agree. As always with Trump, though, ya gotta consider the alternative.

    Think about what Hillary would have done. It’s the distinction between King Log and King Stork.

    • Replies: @Realist
  18. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    ‘…The United States as it was known for 200 years will slowly die because it’s demographic will slowly change…’

    Note that the notion that the United States was ever a fixed entity is a bit of a chimera. It’s always been changing; if the US now isn’t like what it was in 1958, what it was like in 1958 bore little resemblance to what it had been like in 1788.

    This isn’t to say we shouldn’t fight against the changes now taking place; merely that there isn’t any unchanging happy land we should be trying to return to. It never existed.

  19. Mr. Buchanan!!! I seriously doubt you are not aware that in 1898 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in favor of the birthright citizenship of Wong Kim Ark. Born in Sacramento to Chinese parents unable to ever be citizens because of the 1882 Chinese exclusion act. Settled law.

    Mr. Buchanan!!! I also seriously doubt you do not know Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884) held that since John Elk was born on tribal land he was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

    Mr. Buchanan you are shamefully twisting history to support your long sought goal of keeping American culture white and European.

  20. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Very depressing comment, CoSC.

    It’s all true though.

    You and I have had the same thoughts about whether it is even worth trying to save anything here. (I am going by one of your best ones, written when I was on a 1 week hiatus from commenting.)

  21. @Maureen O'Brien O'Reilly

    Miss O’Reilly!! Listen!! Miss O’Reilly!! HEAR ME OUT!!

    Look!! Mr. Pat Buchanan has more knowledge of the immigration issue, including the birthright citizenship loophole, in the fatty tissue in his right buttock, than your knowledge of the entire world outside the fatty tissue inside your skull.

    Miss O’Reilly!! You are white!! What’s your problem with Mr. Buchanan? Hello!! McFly!! Miss O’Reilly!! Is anybody home?

  22. Wade says:

    Happy 80th birthday, Pat!!

  23. @Colin Wright

    But changing demographics among various White tribes is one thing. Changing demographics that includes non-Europeans is a completely different matter.

    Of course every country changes over time, but 100 years from now, Japan will still be Japanese, same with South Korea, same with Israel (which likely will be even more Jewish), etc. Our society is undergoing deep, fundamental changes. 100 years from now, the entity and society known as the United States will be unrecognizable to that of the United States in 1960, and I’m not taking technological changes. Walk down a Tokyo street in 2120 and you’ll see the same face and, to a large degree, the same culture. That will not be the case for the United States. It will be another land entirely.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Nawyr
  24. Rurik says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Miss O’Reilly!! You are white!!

    you have to understand Achmed,

    to a middle-aged, frumpy white woman who’s well beyond her appeal to white men, (if she ever had any), the prospect of a dusky young man willing to tread the moldering folds of her dormant and musty womanhood, few concerns, if any- are more immediately pressing.

  25. @Achmed E. Newman

    I hate to say it, but the game is all but over. Technically, it’s still being played, but this game is more like chess than baseball. In baseball, there’s always a chance that you can come back and win. In chess, at some point, it’s almost impossible mathematically to win unless your opponent literally allows you to win. In our case, that’d be like all immigration stopping tomorrow and Whites cranking up their birthrates.

    That won’t happen.

    Whites can somewhat hold on to power for a time if we start voting as a block, but even that is something of a rearguard action. It wouldn’t change the situation in California. Doesn’t matter anyway because that would never happen over the next 10 or 20 years. Maybe later, but by then it’ll be too late.

    As I’ve said, I have no clue what’s coming next, but it won’t be good for Whites. I’d push my kids to emigrate, but, honestly, where would they go? Australia and New Zealand are culturally similar but seem to be just as sucidal as Whites in the U.S. Maybe Poland or Hungary, but that’s a huge change that my kids likely won’t want to do.

    I suspect that our best hope is to slowly build a White community within the larger U.S. society. It seems to be a pipe dream now, but how likely did a Jewish homeland seem in 1895 – just 50 years before Israel. Things change.

    I truly believe that if Whites can establish a beachhead of White identity – even something as simple of European-American business groups, college groups or community groups – you’d see a rapid change. Having a network of fellow Whites who will protect you when attacked would change the game entirely. It’s why TPTB will stop at nothing to prevent such groups. It’s why they hate fraternities so much. White guys getting together and forming networks.

    Anyway, Whites aren’t done for yet. We can still come back and flourish, but we’ll need to carve out our own space within the larger “American” society. Will that happen? I don’t know. But I don’t think that Whites are going to want to live as an oppressed minority, especially when they are far more capable than their oppressors. I mean, why be a slave when it’s easy to escape or to overpower your master?

  26. @Maureen O'Brien O'Reilly

    ‘…Mr. Buchanan you are shamefully twisting history to support your long sought goal of keeping American culture white and European.’

    Then at least he’s twisting it in a good cause. After all, there are definitely those who twist history in aid of making American culture cease to be white and European.

  27. republic says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    see Orwell’s Politics and the English language.

    Buchanan is a good wordsmith, strange that he does this.

  28. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    ‘…0 years from now, Japan will still be Japanese, same with South Korea, same with Israel (which likely will be even more Jewish), etc…’

    One hundred years from now, Israel won’t exist at all. No state ever founded on such a shallow, vicious, and dishonest foundation has ever endured.

  29. @Colin Wright

    Betting against the Jews doesn’t usually turn out well. That said, they do seem to be burning their own boat at the moment.

    Think 50 to 100 years in the future. Here’s Israel’s situation. Western Europe will have a very large Muslim population along with a very large African population with a falling White population. Not one of those groups will be sympathic to Jews, many will be hostile. The United States will be some Brazil-like country, far too pre-occupied with its own problems to worry about Israel. (American Jews will try to stop that but a non-White Democratic Party and more White identity GOP will not care much about Israel.)

    Israel will be on its own. They should fine. I mean, nuclear weapons are pretty useful sometimes. But they will be isolated.

    American Jews (who ceaselessly push for open borders) have become the biggest threat to Israel.

    • Replies: @Nawyr
  30. Realist says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yes, he is better than Hillary. But I believe they are both Deep Staters.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  31. @Realist

    Yes both are factions of Deep State, I think one is more nationalistically and the other globally motivated. Neither cares much for the American people, but one just a bit more.

    • Replies: @Realist
  32. nsa says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    “adopting the language of the left – undocumented immigrants, rather than what they are…..”
    How about the more accurate Undocumented Democrats?

  33. @Rurik

    The refugees must look upon the prospect of servicing her as one of the rites of passage towards citizenship, another hurdle that must be cleared, another trial that must be endured; the severest test yet of their resolve.

  34. TTSSYF says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I’m wondering if white gentiles’ best hope for survival is to start inter-marrying with Jews. We’d benefit from their financial ruthlessness, verbal prowess, and tribalism, and they’d benefit from our earnest goodwill, overall decency, and good looks.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @KenH
  35. Anon[423] • Disclaimer says:

    “One hundred years from now, Israel won’t exist at all. No state ever founded on such a shallow, vicious, and dishonest foundation has ever endured.”

    Uh, basically every modern nation state in the world was formed in such a manner.

  36. Realist says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Neither cares much for the American people, but one just a bit more.

    Or appears to.

  37. KenH says:
    @TTSSYF

    Well Tim Wise and other notable mischlings are just has stridently anti-white as the full bloods while lacking goodwill, overall decency and good looks.

  38. TTSSYF says:

    True. If, after several centuries, we were all an indistinguishable part of the tribe, the tribe would probably turn on itself.

  39. @Colin Wright

    The Israeli nation has existed for 5000 years or so. The Israeli state lost its geographic territory in 70 AD. In 1948, they got it back–by hook and by crook, but they got it, and reformed the Israeli nation-state. They show no sign of leaving or weakening, and they have chosen their allies and enemies well.

    Compare them to the fatalistic, clannish Arabs and the utterly incompetent Palestinians. The West Bank is being slowly co-opted and Gaza is an open-air prison. Maybe several million Gazans having a mass mental breakdown will blow up on Israel but if it comes to that, I think the end result will be a lot fewer Gazans.

    Maybe Iran will step up where the old Soviet Union didn’t and help Syria and Egypt drive all those nasty Jews into the sea? Again, anything’s possible but I tend to doubt it as the Khomeini-era gerontocracy dies off and Iranians get more interested in their American relations’ computer games and relaxed social mores.

    In sum, yes anything’s possible but I think you and the Palestinians are in for a long 100 years.

    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  40. anon[400] • Disclaimer says:

    ZeroHedge:
    “Don’t Ever Repeat This”: Beto Aides Busted Funneling Caravan Funds In Undercover Sting

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-01/dont-ever-repeat-beto-aides-busted-funneling-caravan-funds-undercover-sting

  41. peterAUS says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I truly believe that if Whites can establish a beachhead of White identity – even something as simple of European-American business groups, college groups or community groups – you’d see a rapid change. Having a network of fellow Whites who will protect you when attacked would change the game entirely. It’s why TPTB will stop at nothing to prevent such groups.

    I suspect that our best hope is to slowly build a White community within the larger U.S. society. It seems to be a pipe dream now, but how likely did a Jewish homeland seem in 1895 – just 50 years before Israel. Things change.

    Agree.

    The former can be done easily, if….IF….whites feel threatened…scared….. enough. They don’t. It’s simple as that.

    They simply, still, feel, that if game somehow, can be reversed, via ballot box, to those great days in the past all will be fine. As we see now. They do not want to fundamentally change the game.
    That’s why “secession” and such are dirty words, vehemently attacked even within “alt-right”.

    WHEN the whites feel not uncomfortable but scared, both former and later ……easily.

  42. @Maureen O'Brien O'Reilly

    You have a point that Pat may be “twisting” the legal precedents to argue for his interpretation. But that’s the nature of legal arguments. Both sides “twist” and “spin” the context and the meanings of words.

    Ultimately, however, the U.S. Supreme Court gets the final “twist.” Five justices get to dictate the matter with the infallibility of the Pope.

    Using this power, the Court has frequently found rules that exist nowhere in the text of the Constitution. These include the phantom “right to an abortion,” and the non-existent qualification that the 14th Amendment prohinits racial discrimination “except against whites.”

    So if five justices want to find that the children of illegals are not citizens they certainly may.

  43. Pat’s a great analyst. Thanks.

    But I’m 66 years old (white, male and conservative). I’m not going to live to see the changes Pat predicts.

    I hate to seem so self-interested after a life of service to my country and community. But it’s for someone else to figure out. So, get with it.

    You can bet I’m grateful for that.

  44. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Sorry for the lack of a reply yesterday, CoaSC, but I don’t have anything to add to that. It sounds right.

  45. Canuck2 says:

    The argument against non-white immigration would be more impactful if it was more intellectually honest. The immigration crises is in large measure a reaction to US corporate and government policies in Latin America, the Middle East and elsewhere. The US has been complicit in destabilizing countries around the world. Stop interferring in the affairs of others and maybe there will be fewer immigrants, legal or otherwise, coming to your borders. Would the European refugee crises of the last few years have happened had the US and UK not destroyed Iraq, Libya and Syria?

    To be fair, and unlike other anti-immigrant advocates, Mr. Buchanan has argued against US involvement abroad.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  46. @Hypnotoad666

    yep. today’s Supreme Court could overturn Supreme Court preceedent of 1898. my point is that Mr. Buchanan ignored the Supreme Court case which directly speaks to birthright citizenship. why? to make his point of course. disappointing.

  47. @Achmed E. Newman

    my problem with Mr. Buchanan is that knowing history as he does he picks and chooses to make his point. IN this case he completely ignored the Supreme Court preceedent of 1898 dealing directly with birthright citizenship.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  48. @Rurik

    hmmm…what does this have to do with the Supreme Court or birthright citizenship? Nothing? ok! just a way to give an old lady a compliment I suppose… wow!!! middle aged!!! thank you!!!

  49. MarkinLA says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    The correct legal term is illegal aliens. They are not immigrants of any kind. A legal resident who is not a citizen is a resident alien.

    Jeff Sessions constantly uses the correct legal term.

  50. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “I hate to say it, but the game is all but over.”

    The game may be over for YOU and your ideological kind.

    “Whites can somewhat hold on to power for a time if we start voting as a block, but even that is something of a rearguard action.”

    American whites in general will still remain powerful and influential. They need not be virtue signaled by you to be coerced into “voting as a block”.

    “I’d push my kids to emigrate, but, honestly, where would they go?”

    Stay here and build up our nation.

    “I suspect that our best hope is to slowly build a White community within the larger U.S. society.”

    We have a plethora of white communities in our great land.

    “I truly believe that if Whites can establish a beachhead of White identity – even something as simple of European-American business groups, college groups or community groups – you’d see a rapid change.”

    Except white Americans generally refer to themselves as…white Americans. They form their own associations. They make their own decisions. White Americans are not being “oppressed” nor are they “helpless”.

    • Replies: @Nawyr
  51. MarkinLA says:
    @Maureen O'Brien O'Reilly

    But you did leave out the part that these Chinese were legal residents and replaced it with the fact that they could not be citizens according to the current law. So you are twisting it as well. So it isn’t so settled.

  52. @Maureen O'Brien O'Reilly

    OK, I see you’ve calmed down. #MeToo. Yeah, I’m going with Miss Coulter’s argument on this law issue, since it’s in our favor. Hey, I didn’t follow all the logic of the cases and precedents on birthright citizenship, I’ve gotta admit. Do you want to know why, Mrs. O’Reilly?:

    The ctrl-left does not respect the US Constitution or use it for guidance. It does not respect any law made by Congress that gets in the way, unless arrest with jail time is imminent. Do you understand that we cannot continue to play this game under the rules set by our forefathers? Whatever we can get done to crush the ctrl-left Commie bastards, well, that’s just what we need to do. We can start respecting the US Constitution, which I have great reverence for, when the rest of them are MADE TO DO SO or kicked the hell out of this country, whichever comes first.

  53. @Canuck2

    Stop interferring in the affairs of others and maybe there will be fewer immigrants, legal or otherwise, coming to your borders.

    Bullcrap, immigration was increased drastically in 1965 via an act of Congress. The illegal alien entries were controlled pretty damn well for a long time, until certain people got their way with Congress to get serious enforcement stopped. This has nothing to do with the dozens of stupid foreign wars except …

    unlike other anti-immigrant advocates,…

    … well, like Mr. Steve Sailer, right here on unz.com (to save you some surfing around) who, if not coined, uses the term Invade-the-World, Invite-the World as a pejorative weekly, if not every other day! You tell me a serious anti-immigration-invasion advocate who IS for all the US foreign involvement abroad. Go ahead, the clock will start when this comment is moderated.

    The thing is, Canuck, that the only relationship between the huge influx and the foreign wars is that the same types of people, the Neocons (scroll down), seem to be FOR both destructive policies. Lots of discussion on the unz blog (esp. iSteve Sailer) is about the reasons for this connection.

    You are not writing to 20 y/o liberal arts students, Canuck, so up your game, or pick a troll handle – Large Goose is available still, but we already have a Tiny Duck.

  54. @The Anti-Gnostic

    ‘The Israeli nation has existed for 5000 years or so…’

    I take it you think ‘The Tales of King Arthur’ is a historical text as well. After all, there’s a similar lack of any supporting evidence whatsoever, and it too was set down a good thousand years after the supposed facts.

    It’s actually worse than that. King Arthur could have existed; it’s just improbable. The ancient Israelites conquer cities that hadn’t been founded yet, herd animals that hadn’t been domesticated, and build mighty empires that perfectly literate neighbors don’t even notice.

  55. Baxter says:

    Gentleman, I get excited when I think about the future of the United States. We are living in a golden era of abominations. So, work the system, get what you can. Hold your loyalty to nothing.
    When I was a boy there was a movie, the never ending story. The movie is about fighting off the nothing, the emptiness.
    We don’t have that; nothing.
    I am here.
    America. She’s dead.

  56. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:

    Pat is more of an historian than a legal scholar. And he did just turn 80, so maybe he ran out of energy to read and summarize the rather lengthy 1898 Wong Kim Ark decision.

    But since you mentioned it and I’ve seen the pro-birthright citizenship people cite it, I looked it up and gave it a read. https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649

    The key holding of the case is simply that a person born in the United States to foreign-born parents is deemed to be a “citizen” under the 14th Amendment. However, the issue that it does not address is whether the result would be different if the parents had illegally entered the country and were illegally residing in the country in violation of positive law at the time of the birth.

    I have heard some people suggest that the case should be read to apply to illegal aliens because the Chinese Exclusion Act would have prohibited the plaintiff’s entry. But this is clearly wrong. The plaintiff was born in 1873 and Exclusion Act was passed in 1884 and did not apply to current U.S. citizens. So the Exclusion Act had nothing to do with the citizenship issue.

    The Court’s analysis was interesting, however. For one thing, the Court clearly rejected the idea that the language of the 14th Am. — i.e., “‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens” — is self-evident or self-explanatory.

    To the contrary, “The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words” and therefore the 14th Am. “must be interpreted in the light of the common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the constitution.” The court looked at a bunch of pre-1789 precedents that pretty much all granted citizenship to those born within the realm of the sovereign. But then again, all these cases concerned a world of sailing ships before passports and immigration controls had come into existence. So, again, no support there for a specific case of illegal entry and residence.

    So, in summary, this old case is a mixed bag: (a) It shoots down the “14th Am. just means what it says” argument; (b) It says the relevant standard for a “natural-born” citizen is to be found in pre-1789 British and American common law and custom; and (c) it did not address or decide the status of an illegal alien “anchor baby” (and don’t believe anyone who says the existence of the Chinese Exclusion Act is relevant to the case).

  57. Nawyr says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Japan and South Korea most definitely will not be Japanese or South Korean in 100 years.

    A recent (within hours) nationwide poll indicates that 51% of Japabese respond favorably to opening up the country to immigrants.

    It’s already teeming with East Africans, Levantine Arabs and Turks in Tokyo.

  58. Nawyr says:
    @Corvinus

    >We have a plethora of white communities in our great land.

    Yeah — and the average age in them is 75.

    Lotsa heroin addicts in our “great land”.

  59. While a disagree with the main premise I do agree with the second part. Immigrants from any ethnic background do not necessarily are Liberal or as liberal or even as radical as the DEM establishment. In fact Blacks/Hispanic (non Mexicans)/Asians with higher education, higher incomes and religiously active more active whom usually INSIST on their progeny the virtues of American assimilation and its related institution. One does not hear of Bilingual education for Koreans, Indians, Japanese they usually leave that to the non public civil agencies. The Trump thesis is correct America MUST implement an Immigration policy based on MERITS, taking into account the Economic,social objectives of the USA primarily and insist on assimilation, acculturation etc. In other words to come to America can only be one way LEGAL be it temporarily, short term tourism, temporary workers to long term permanent residency and eventually citizenship. BUT I strongly agree with the second part under DEM presidency there has been an abuse of power using Executive gross OVER reached to approve immigration reforms by fiat without Congressional Federal approval which VIOLATES the US Constitution (DACA). The DEMS had moved the opposite way of legality trying to fic illegality with more illegality, under their utterly failed multiculturalism model that has exploded into racial riots in schools, ghettos, a new generations of mass illiterate young people without a sense of morality, civility, patriotism etc. In the BLUE states the facts on the ground are absolutely radically deranged. Blue state like Caliofnia are using Motor Laws to register BLUE/DEM voters even without their knowledge and cosent. The BLUE states are even allowing NON citizens (Mexicans) to vote . Some blue DEM had beencaughstealing primaries (Clinton/Sanders), dead people voting, openly collaborating with foreign Mexicans institutions, ngos, to bus non citizens to vote BLUE, that’s treason. NO GOP has any chance of winning as long as blue dems are allowing to violate electoral laws with open clear blatant FRAUD, corruption, criminality.

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  60. Them Guys says:
    @anon

    If we could somehow get 25-50 million usa whiteys to move to Canada, as a huge series of caravans, whites could in one election replace every non white and every lib commie lefty now of Canadas officials. Canada has a total military of aprox less than 400,000 iirc?…Canada would have no choice but to accept such a huge influx, and grant every demand. Instant refugee status, instant citizenship, instant voter rights etc….Plus Canada would be forced to add a 2nd amendt to their nation and laws.

    Total POP in Canada is what? 35 Million tops?…USA can provide more White immigrants into Canada, than they have citizens there now. Picture every tv news and msm source of lefty commie libs and which are 90% Jews…Going into a total Melt Down effect if such happened, eh.

    Canada has a lot to offer too. Bigger land mass, same type lands mostly, far less negro monkeys, fewer Jews…..Lots of lands unoccupied where no others can flourish like European Whites can. Cold weather is where Whitey came from. Cold zones is what keeps most Coloreds from dwelling within.

    More one considers this as a solution, the more good points one finds. Especially how usa whiteys can, in cahoots with Canadas whites, in one single election cycle, basically hijack and take over Canada entirely…Once Canada fast became what usa used to be, a 90+% White Majority again, with only Whites as every possible elected and appointed public official, and a few good changes were made to various pro-black, pro Jew, antigun, and pro non white immigrations. And every current such law was Fixed and replaced with Pro White laws….Picture the great future possibilities. A New White Home for Whites who have now lived thru 55+ years of idiotic, dangerous and deadly Lefty Dem Lib commie, and, Jewish Neo Con+Zio crap agendas. And now have Plenty of lived experiences to make certain that not one single law or policy or agenda, like those we so rightfully hate and despise, can ever again take hold.

    And if Canadian Voters are like here, where just 1/2 or less eligible actually do vote? Then we only need even far less total number of immigrant refugees of usa whiteys to go there. And instead of like in America where we have as, “best friends and allies, Israel” hahah…We could become best pals and allies with White Russia…It would be the most powerful Euro Whitey combo-people & nations Block of abject potential power to exist. With both nations fed and state govnt and Militaries fully under only White controls…No other nation on earth, even usa could dare fuck us over.

    I have zero real ideas as to How such could ever become reality?. Maybe when economic melt downs happen in America, if they happen at all? However it is more likely if usa has economic melt down, so to will Canada and entire world do same. If so, then we won’t need worry about heading to Canada or any where else, for all hell will break out here at home.

    It then will look much more like that CCR song of…Better Run Thru the Jungle…and…Don’t Look Back!…Smoke up on the mountain, 200 million Guns a loading, etc…Great song that may soon become actual reality. Creedence Clear Water Revival is bands name…My Favorite song by them.

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  61. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:

    The Mexican Const states that a child of two Mexican citizens is a Mexican citizen no matter where it is born. However, under the Anchor Baby theory it only an American citizen if born in US territory. Surely this makes the Mexican citizenship primary, thus answering a primary qualification for citizenship within the fourteenth amendment, “…subject to the jurisdiction thereof…”

  62. MarkinLA says:
    @Them Guys

    Even the Lakota decided that it was too cold in Canada when they were fleeing the US Army and came back to the Dakotas.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  63. Them Guys says:
    @MarkinLA

    Many places are about the same year round weather and temps as I get here in Northern Lower Penn. Michigan. I am aprox 200 miles north of Detroit. Plus a bit more east. Yes it gets very cold here in winter. More snow too than Detroit gets typically…But its a whole different way of life here, far better too. Whites in usa one day may have no other options than go into Canada.

  64. Politically, continued mass migration to the USA by peoples of color, who vote 70-90 percent Democratic, is going to change our country another way. Red state America will inevitably turn blue.

    Yet more proof that the entire red team vs. blue team system is a hoax. If red team really cared about retaining power why would they do this Pat? Unless it didn’t matter to the real shot callers which team is in office.
    Your govt. is a fraud folks. The real power does not hold elections, you CANNOT vote them out. Period. How many times do we have to cycle through this before poor dumb Mericans see that?

    Wall St capitalist class, The Banks, MIC, Zionists run this shitshow. Red/Blue teams have the same owner. No difference. Its all a freakin show Pat! Hollywood production, to keep up the illusion that you have a choice, you DO NOT!

    Stop encouraging and legitimizing this F’d up broken clown show and refuse to vote. Until enough Mericans do this, nothing will change. NOTHING!

    And they see whites, blacks, browns, reds the same. All debt slaves. White folks are no more special than Somalians or Mexicans too them.

    Jeez Louise open your eyes, this isn’t hard. The red team allowed this to happen, how many republicans are truly against immigration? Other than right before an election? Yep.

    Be sure to vote for the puppet of your choice though, it’ll definitely be different this time.

  65. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    The Democrat party is the Party of Hate — for America.

    No one who loves America will ever think mass immigration is good for America. Only those who hate America think that.

  66. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Maya

    Agree totally. The Left coast is being swallowed whole by MexChindians and their anchor babies.

    Trump could do a lot by simply cancelling every single one of Bushobama’s EOs on immigration, this would:
    - end DACA
    - end OPT (Optional practical training for foreign students)
    - end spousal work permit for H1b visa holders

    In addition, he could simply use the EO to:
    - lower the limit of H1b to 10,000 per year and increase the fee to $100k each.
    - end the use of L1 and B1 visas by Indian outsourcing firms
    - end birthright citizenship for non US citizens, retroactive to 2000

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